1 00:00:04,265 --> 00:00:08,530 The world you know is not what it seems. 2 00:00:15,102 --> 00:00:19,889 Buried deep inside one of America's leading universities 3 00:00:19,976 --> 00:00:21,760 lies one of the largest collections 4 00:00:21,847 --> 00:00:24,894 of paranormal research in the world. 5 00:00:24,981 --> 00:00:26,374 This thing is something we communicated-- 6 00:00:26,461 --> 00:00:27,462 This is a spirit. 7 00:00:28,898 --> 00:00:32,032 I saw a little object hovering. 8 00:00:32,162 --> 00:00:36,601 From telepathy, possession, the abduction experience... 9 00:00:38,212 --> 00:00:40,214 They said, "We're coming." 10 00:00:42,346 --> 00:00:44,653 Collected over decades, 11 00:00:44,783 --> 00:00:47,525 much of it has never been seen by the public. 12 00:00:47,612 --> 00:00:50,963 This is truly a halfway house 13 00:00:51,051 --> 00:00:54,576 between your world and ours. 14 00:00:55,925 --> 00:00:57,535 I'm scouring the globe 15 00:00:57,666 --> 00:01:01,191 looking for new people with extraordinary stories. 16 00:01:01,278 --> 00:01:04,455 I realized my dream is about to happen. 17 00:01:04,542 --> 00:01:06,327 Their accounts will be preserved 18 00:01:06,414 --> 00:01:10,331 alongside some of the most remarkable cases in history. 19 00:01:10,418 --> 00:01:13,247 She's more than telepathic. 20 00:01:13,334 --> 00:01:15,640 I felt like I was being watched. 21 00:01:15,727 --> 00:01:18,861 I saw really horrific things. 22 00:01:18,948 --> 00:01:20,645 There's no way for me to put into words 23 00:01:20,732 --> 00:01:21,864 what I went through. 24 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,282 For over a decade, our archive has collected 25 00:01:49,283 --> 00:01:52,112 evidence of the paranormal. 26 00:01:52,199 --> 00:01:54,897 Throughout time, people have used religion 27 00:01:55,027 --> 00:01:59,597 to help them understand supernatural beings. 28 00:01:59,684 --> 00:02:01,991 This goes way before the Biblical texts. 29 00:02:02,078 --> 00:02:05,908 These entities have appeared in various forms across time, 30 00:02:05,995 --> 00:02:11,522 from celestial beings, sylphs, angels, demons. 31 00:02:11,609 --> 00:02:14,612 But in today's world, more people than ever 32 00:02:14,699 --> 00:02:16,919 believe in extraterrestrials. 33 00:02:17,049 --> 00:02:19,661 It's led to a debate about whether aliens 34 00:02:19,748 --> 00:02:22,229 could be today's equivalent of demons. 35 00:02:26,058 --> 00:02:29,714 There's even a new term for these beings. 36 00:02:29,845 --> 00:02:34,502 "Nonhuman intelligence" is a very modern expression. 37 00:02:34,589 --> 00:02:38,332 NHI can mean extraterrestrial, 38 00:02:38,462 --> 00:02:41,986 demonic, angelic, extradimensional. 39 00:02:41,987 --> 00:02:44,425 It comes from the UFO world. 40 00:02:44,512 --> 00:02:48,342 We'd like to know, what are people really seeing 41 00:02:48,429 --> 00:02:51,171 when they experience these forms of intelligence? 42 00:02:51,258 --> 00:02:55,131 And why do these encounters take place? 43 00:02:57,133 --> 00:02:59,179 I've asked Diana Pasulka, 44 00:02:59,266 --> 00:03:01,659 a leading researcher in this area, 45 00:03:01,746 --> 00:03:04,923 to come and help me investigate this phenomenon. 46 00:03:05,010 --> 00:03:08,536 The core of my work has been that humanity has always been 47 00:03:08,623 --> 00:03:10,929 in touch with intelligences 48 00:03:11,016 --> 00:03:14,063 that have not originated from Earth. 49 00:03:14,150 --> 00:03:16,848 In the past, people have utilized religion 50 00:03:16,935 --> 00:03:21,288 to understand these experiences that they have. 51 00:03:21,418 --> 00:03:24,246 Today, people are looking at these experiences 52 00:03:24,247 --> 00:03:27,250 through a more technological framework. 53 00:03:27,337 --> 00:03:30,035 For some people, it looks like angel contact, 54 00:03:30,122 --> 00:03:32,821 and for other people, extraterrestrial contact. 55 00:03:35,171 --> 00:03:37,739 So I've invited two people who've had encounters 56 00:03:37,869 --> 00:03:40,481 with different nonhuman intelligences 57 00:03:40,568 --> 00:03:42,613 to share their stories. 58 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:45,181 Their testimonies will be recorded 59 00:03:45,312 --> 00:03:49,751 and added to the archive for future research. 60 00:03:49,838 --> 00:03:53,624 I'm Nancy Burson, and I'm an artist. 61 00:03:53,755 --> 00:03:57,279 I don't believe in the demonic. 62 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,631 The beings, they survive on violence. 63 00:04:00,718 --> 00:04:02,459 They love it. 64 00:04:02,546 --> 00:04:04,026 So are they aliens? 65 00:04:05,941 --> 00:04:06,985 Yeah, they are. 66 00:04:17,387 --> 00:04:20,955 I moved to New York in 1968. 67 00:04:20,956 --> 00:04:23,698 I lived a life of an artist 68 00:04:23,785 --> 00:04:27,658 that didn't quite know where I was going. 69 00:04:30,182 --> 00:04:34,274 I had seen interactive art, and that was 70 00:04:34,361 --> 00:04:38,669 one of the reasons why I came up with this idea 71 00:04:38,756 --> 00:04:41,977 to create an aging machine. 72 00:04:42,064 --> 00:04:45,763 I spent a couple of years going in and out of MIT, 73 00:04:45,894 --> 00:04:48,200 usually on weekends. 74 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:52,553 I was counting on software engineers to help me, 75 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,252 because obviously, I was not a programmer. 76 00:04:56,339 --> 00:05:00,909 There was a videotape that was made of three faces aging. 77 00:05:03,390 --> 00:05:04,869 What we're gonna look like when we get old 78 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,741 is a subject that interests all of us. 79 00:05:06,871 --> 00:05:08,917 Conceptual artist Nancy Burson has been 80 00:05:09,004 --> 00:05:10,614 experimenting with a technique 81 00:05:10,701 --> 00:05:12,050 that would project the human face 82 00:05:12,181 --> 00:05:14,749 any number of years into the future. 83 00:05:14,836 --> 00:05:18,448 I really do think that we're hitting within 84 00:05:18,579 --> 00:05:21,973 a 75-80% accuracy range. 85 00:05:22,104 --> 00:05:25,629 The facial mapping technology was eventually bought 86 00:05:25,716 --> 00:05:31,069 by the FBI to find missing kids and adults. 87 00:05:31,156 --> 00:05:35,552 The images of facial morphing I created in the '80s 88 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:39,382 and in the '90s put me in many of the museums 89 00:05:39,469 --> 00:05:43,604 and eventually came together in a huge retrospective. 90 00:05:52,003 --> 00:05:54,005 At this point in my life, 91 00:05:54,092 --> 00:05:57,530 it was all just science and art, 92 00:05:57,531 --> 00:06:00,969 but it was about to change. 93 00:06:01,056 --> 00:06:04,712 My son was born in '89. 94 00:06:04,799 --> 00:06:09,804 And when my son was 11, we went to the UK on vacation. 95 00:06:17,072 --> 00:06:20,423 It was billed as a Merlin journey. 96 00:06:20,510 --> 00:06:23,513 My son was very into the Merlin books, 97 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,863 and so it was just such a thrill 98 00:06:25,950 --> 00:06:29,345 to take this journey together. 99 00:06:29,432 --> 00:06:33,958 Wiltshire is the home of the crop circles. 100 00:06:34,089 --> 00:06:37,962 I had a natural curiosity to experience them. 101 00:06:38,049 --> 00:06:41,792 So we--we ventured out. 102 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:45,535 We waited for the sun to go down completely 103 00:06:45,622 --> 00:06:48,016 before we entered the crop circle. 104 00:06:50,975 --> 00:06:54,152 Suddenly, there were these two lights, 105 00:06:54,283 --> 00:06:55,806 these two balls of light, 106 00:06:55,893 --> 00:06:57,504 that were floating in front of us. 107 00:06:59,027 --> 00:07:01,508 They were about 6 to 9 feet away from me, 108 00:07:01,595 --> 00:07:03,205 darting in and out. 109 00:07:03,335 --> 00:07:07,252 It was not like anything I've ever felt before. 110 00:07:07,339 --> 00:07:10,124 I took five consecutive pictures. 111 00:07:10,125 --> 00:07:13,215 After that, they just disappeared, 112 00:07:13,302 --> 00:07:15,347 completely out of sight. 113 00:07:19,351 --> 00:07:22,572 So the crop circles are such a phenomenon, right? 114 00:07:22,659 --> 00:07:24,008 We have records of crop circles 115 00:07:24,139 --> 00:07:26,576 from before the 1800s. 116 00:07:26,663 --> 00:07:29,710 And we know that some of them are hoaxed, 117 00:07:29,797 --> 00:07:31,929 but not all of them. 118 00:07:32,016 --> 00:07:36,934 Even today, some defy conventional explanation, 119 00:07:37,065 --> 00:07:41,809 because we don't have the tools to create what we see. 120 00:07:41,896 --> 00:07:45,638 But they're done within hours, so they're often thought 121 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:48,206 to have been caused by nonhuman intelligence, 122 00:07:48,293 --> 00:07:50,295 the extraterrestrials. 123 00:07:50,382 --> 00:07:51,906 I didn't really understand, 124 00:07:51,993 --> 00:07:54,386 but I knew it to be very powerful. 125 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:58,086 The balls of light sent pure love. 126 00:07:58,173 --> 00:08:02,177 It was like my heart had broken open. 127 00:08:02,264 --> 00:08:05,876 I felt like it was the beginning of something. 128 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:12,926 So Nancy, she has her inaugurating experience 129 00:08:12,927 --> 00:08:16,539 near an epicenter of crop circle activity. 130 00:08:16,626 --> 00:08:19,499 I could totally understand why she was so fascinated by them, 131 00:08:19,586 --> 00:08:22,676 because when you become interested in crop circles, 132 00:08:22,763 --> 00:08:24,895 it opens up a whole belief system 133 00:08:25,026 --> 00:08:28,029 about who could have done this. 134 00:08:28,116 --> 00:08:31,641 I wonder if Nancy's artistic creativity 135 00:08:31,728 --> 00:08:33,643 is part of the reason that these beings 136 00:08:33,730 --> 00:08:35,558 are connecting with her. 137 00:08:35,645 --> 00:08:39,301 Are they seeing a talent in her that they want to harness? 138 00:08:47,657 --> 00:08:49,877 Coming back from England, 139 00:08:49,964 --> 00:08:54,142 I felt like I missed these balls of light. 140 00:08:54,229 --> 00:08:56,666 And so I began to feel like, 141 00:08:56,797 --> 00:09:00,104 OK, well, if I could see them in Wiltshire, 142 00:09:00,191 --> 00:09:03,891 why can't I see them in New York? 143 00:09:03,978 --> 00:09:08,199 I felt that, if I put two maps up of Wiltshire, 144 00:09:08,286 --> 00:09:11,507 that they would perhaps come and visit. 145 00:09:11,594 --> 00:09:14,597 And so I did. 146 00:09:14,684 --> 00:09:17,339 And when I did, it was like, suddenly, 147 00:09:17,426 --> 00:09:19,341 there was balls of light darting everywhere, 148 00:09:19,428 --> 00:09:21,517 and it was scary. 149 00:09:21,648 --> 00:09:24,694 And I remember asking them to slow down, 150 00:09:24,825 --> 00:09:27,436 because they were so fast. 151 00:09:27,523 --> 00:09:31,658 It was overwhelming. 152 00:09:31,788 --> 00:09:33,921 What is this? 153 00:09:34,008 --> 00:09:35,400 I really felt like they answered the call. 154 00:09:41,145 --> 00:09:44,018 I felt like I opened 155 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:45,497 a vortex to something. 156 00:09:47,456 --> 00:09:50,285 I think the connection to aliens 157 00:09:50,415 --> 00:09:52,809 had already been in my mind 158 00:09:52,896 --> 00:09:56,029 when I really saw those balls of light 159 00:09:56,030 --> 00:09:59,642 and when I first saw the crop circle. 160 00:09:59,729 --> 00:10:03,603 At that point, they seemed to be listening, 161 00:10:03,733 --> 00:10:05,213 and I was speaking to them. 162 00:10:05,343 --> 00:10:08,564 And it wasn't like verbal communication. 163 00:10:08,695 --> 00:10:09,825 It was something else. 164 00:10:11,654 --> 00:10:14,003 So after the balls of light appeared, 165 00:10:14,004 --> 00:10:17,747 my work did really quite well, 166 00:10:17,834 --> 00:10:21,750 and there were international exhibitions, 167 00:10:21,751 --> 00:10:23,752 huge retrospectives. 168 00:10:23,753 --> 00:10:26,930 I was honored, respected, 169 00:10:27,017 --> 00:10:29,932 and that was wonderful. 170 00:10:29,933 --> 00:10:32,893 And I felt like they were here for a purpose. 171 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:36,200 I was given a gift, and this was my destiny. 172 00:10:38,115 --> 00:10:40,552 So Nancy invited this nonhuman intelligence 173 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,597 into her life and then found 174 00:10:42,598 --> 00:10:45,905 even greater success as an artist. 175 00:10:45,906 --> 00:10:48,865 I wonder if there's a connection here. 176 00:10:48,952 --> 00:10:51,780 These light beings appear to be benevolent, 177 00:10:51,781 --> 00:10:55,784 but it's not clear what their purpose is for Nancy. 178 00:10:55,785 --> 00:10:57,482 When people report these experiences, 179 00:10:57,569 --> 00:11:00,876 they often report that they're wonderful and amazing, 180 00:11:00,877 --> 00:11:02,923 and they want to have it again. 181 00:11:03,053 --> 00:11:04,358 But then it turns dark. 182 00:11:06,970 --> 00:11:09,885 And so it appears almost like a grooming procedure. 183 00:11:12,846 --> 00:11:15,369 Every summer, my son and I would go 184 00:11:15,370 --> 00:11:18,242 back to the crop circles. 185 00:11:18,373 --> 00:11:21,898 I was in a bathtub in Wiltshire, 186 00:11:22,029 --> 00:11:26,075 and all of a sudden in my bath were 187 00:11:26,076 --> 00:11:28,208 all these tiny, little gold pellets. 188 00:11:31,038 --> 00:11:33,649 I had no idea what they were. 189 00:11:33,736 --> 00:11:35,564 Did they actually come out of me, 190 00:11:35,651 --> 00:11:39,089 or were they placed there? 191 00:11:39,220 --> 00:11:42,875 And that was when I actually heard a threat. 192 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:46,967 What I heard was, "You will be doing, 193 00:11:47,054 --> 00:11:50,622 "from now on, what we specifically ask you, 194 00:11:50,753 --> 00:11:52,189 "for we are your god. 195 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,929 There is no other." 196 00:11:57,281 --> 00:12:02,590 So that revelation sent me emotionally reeling. 197 00:12:03,723 --> 00:12:05,463 I felt completely ruled 198 00:12:05,550 --> 00:12:07,944 by the balls of light. 199 00:12:11,513 --> 00:12:14,298 It was really quite scary. 200 00:12:14,385 --> 00:12:16,126 It seems that the light beings 201 00:12:16,213 --> 00:12:18,912 are turning against Nancy. 202 00:12:19,042 --> 00:12:22,218 Perhaps now that she's had such professional success, 203 00:12:22,219 --> 00:12:24,352 they actually want something back in return. 204 00:12:29,923 --> 00:12:32,186 We returned home to New York, 205 00:12:32,273 --> 00:12:36,668 and I got these gold pellets for three days 206 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,322 in bathtubs and showers. 207 00:12:41,978 --> 00:12:47,766 I knew that these probably did not come out of my body. 208 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:52,727 They're being delivered because I understood that 209 00:12:52,728 --> 00:12:56,296 these beings can carry tiny, little things 210 00:12:56,297 --> 00:12:57,471 and drop them anywhere. 211 00:12:59,343 --> 00:13:01,780 It was quite bizarre. 212 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:03,478 And I knew at that point 213 00:13:03,608 --> 00:13:07,177 that they really needed to be analyzed. 214 00:13:07,264 --> 00:13:10,701 Analysis came from different places. 215 00:13:10,702 --> 00:13:13,530 One of them was the University of Atlanta. 216 00:13:13,531 --> 00:13:15,924 And there was cesium in them. 217 00:13:15,925 --> 00:13:18,841 And cesium is radioactive. 218 00:13:21,583 --> 00:13:23,672 And that was a complete surprise to me. 219 00:13:25,805 --> 00:13:27,894 When I heard Nancy talk about the pellets, 220 00:13:28,024 --> 00:13:30,287 I was amazed. 221 00:13:30,374 --> 00:13:31,506 She's reaching out to scientists, 222 00:13:31,636 --> 00:13:33,725 and she's saying, "Analyze this." 223 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:36,380 She's bringing data. 224 00:13:36,467 --> 00:13:38,034 The fact that Nancy is asking 225 00:13:38,121 --> 00:13:40,950 the scientific community to help her illustrates 226 00:13:41,081 --> 00:13:43,823 that some people are turning to technology, 227 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:47,739 rather than religion, to explain the impossible. 228 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:54,181 After the pellets, there were suddenly 229 00:13:54,268 --> 00:13:57,662 crystals coming out of my hands and my feet. 230 00:13:57,749 --> 00:14:02,276 I would wear socks on my hands to collect the crystals. 231 00:14:02,406 --> 00:14:06,409 The medical community did not particularly understand. 232 00:14:06,410 --> 00:14:09,109 Why is this coming out of me? 233 00:14:09,196 --> 00:14:10,718 It's been 18 years. 234 00:14:17,204 --> 00:14:20,815 I keep searching for labs and material scientists 235 00:14:20,816 --> 00:14:22,862 who would help me. 236 00:14:22,992 --> 00:14:26,953 Yale labs noted that there was a great deal of silicon. 237 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,913 There are forms of silicon that do exist within the human body. 238 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,611 But this was not that kind of silicon. 239 00:14:33,698 --> 00:14:35,265 I think it means it's not from here. 240 00:14:39,095 --> 00:14:41,792 So she metabolized something physical, 241 00:14:41,793 --> 00:14:44,796 which in our reality is impossible, 242 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,321 but does happen occasionally. 243 00:14:47,408 --> 00:14:49,105 And she had it corroborated. 244 00:14:51,586 --> 00:14:54,415 I think that kind of materialization is 245 00:14:54,502 --> 00:14:58,288 really powerful, certainly in the history of religions. 246 00:15:00,247 --> 00:15:03,119 I know of Catholic artifacts that are anomalous, 247 00:15:03,206 --> 00:15:05,817 are studied, like the Shroud of Turin. 248 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:08,211 It's fascinating for Diana and I, 249 00:15:08,298 --> 00:15:09,909 as scholars of religion, 250 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:13,521 to hear Nancy talk about manifesting these crystals, 251 00:15:13,608 --> 00:15:17,307 because it has an element of the miraculous about it. 252 00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:20,745 But Nancy isn't religious. 253 00:15:20,876 --> 00:15:23,748 Nancy is framing this in terms of extraterrestrial life 254 00:15:23,879 --> 00:15:27,317 and nonhuman intelligences and very contemporary things. 255 00:15:27,448 --> 00:15:29,754 But historically, this-- she would've-- 256 00:15:29,841 --> 00:15:32,888 she would have been Joan of Arc. 257 00:15:32,975 --> 00:15:36,674 Joan of Arc is considered a saint, because like Nancy, 258 00:15:36,805 --> 00:15:38,459 she had an encounter with light beings 259 00:15:38,546 --> 00:15:41,766 back in the 15th century. 260 00:15:41,853 --> 00:15:45,726 Their divine guidance led her to speak with dead saints 261 00:15:45,727 --> 00:15:49,209 and predict France's war with England. 262 00:15:49,339 --> 00:15:54,474 But here, Nancy's visions come through her art. 263 00:16:01,830 --> 00:16:07,357 Time passed, and one night, everything changed completely. 264 00:16:09,011 --> 00:16:12,536 I suddenly started seeing Greys around my bed. 265 00:16:12,623 --> 00:16:14,408 These were beings in light, 266 00:16:14,495 --> 00:16:17,933 but they were still just slanty-eyed Greys 267 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:20,066 that people see in solid form. 268 00:16:23,721 --> 00:16:27,595 They would give me anxiety attacks. 269 00:16:27,682 --> 00:16:30,380 I was threatened with jumping out a window. 270 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,081 I didn't want to be suicidal. 271 00:16:36,908 --> 00:16:38,214 These were very scary moments. 272 00:16:40,564 --> 00:16:44,219 And a couple of times, I felt like, am I dead? 273 00:16:50,444 --> 00:16:53,054 So I can see them as balls of light, 274 00:16:53,055 --> 00:16:56,276 but I also see them as Greys. 275 00:16:56,363 --> 00:17:00,931 And they change from solid to light endlessly. 276 00:17:00,932 --> 00:17:06,154 After I began seeing these Grey-like aliens, 277 00:17:06,155 --> 00:17:09,245 I realized all these things are constructs. 278 00:17:09,376 --> 00:17:12,857 They were sent as kind of a test 279 00:17:12,944 --> 00:17:15,469 to see how afraid I could be. 280 00:17:20,387 --> 00:17:23,650 And at that point, our relationship had changed. 281 00:17:23,651 --> 00:17:27,002 I knew that I wasn't gonna get rid of them. 282 00:17:27,133 --> 00:17:30,397 These instances in our lives are destiny. 283 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:33,139 They are the ones that actually control 284 00:17:33,226 --> 00:17:35,923 the consciousness that we have. 285 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:41,321 And then at a certain point, I began to create art 286 00:17:41,451 --> 00:17:44,540 with their help. 287 00:17:44,541 --> 00:17:49,067 When I first began to know that artistic expression 288 00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:54,985 is not done alone, it's done in collaboration with them, 289 00:17:54,986 --> 00:17:59,426 it was really easy to make my art. 290 00:18:01,732 --> 00:18:04,779 The balls of light have been with me for 25 years. 291 00:18:07,999 --> 00:18:14,354 My current work is a reflection of what they have given me. 292 00:18:14,441 --> 00:18:16,965 And so the paintings that I've created 293 00:18:17,052 --> 00:18:20,447 are actually what I call photonography 294 00:18:20,577 --> 00:18:22,622 because they're built on a grid system 295 00:18:22,623 --> 00:18:24,928 of two up and two down. 296 00:18:24,929 --> 00:18:26,321 It's their pattern. 297 00:18:26,322 --> 00:18:30,109 It runs through the universe. 298 00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:32,894 What I think is most remarkable about Nancy's story 299 00:18:33,024 --> 00:18:35,592 is the way she responded to the nonhuman intelligences 300 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:37,507 through art. 301 00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:40,335 Over the years, she's accepted them 302 00:18:40,336 --> 00:18:42,946 as part of her life and work. 303 00:18:42,947 --> 00:18:45,950 But I really do wonder whether she'd ever want 304 00:18:46,037 --> 00:18:49,736 to give up her relationship with these light beings. 305 00:18:49,737 --> 00:18:53,914 If Nancy removes the possessing spirits, 306 00:18:53,915 --> 00:18:57,701 does she not also remove the future art? 307 00:18:57,788 --> 00:18:59,702 And is it worth it? 308 00:18:59,703 --> 00:19:02,706 I don't have an answer to that question, 309 00:19:02,793 --> 00:19:08,059 but it does occur to me that these entities are 310 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,844 somehow related to her creativity. 311 00:19:13,064 --> 00:19:16,415 Perhaps the reason the light beings came to Nancy 312 00:19:16,416 --> 00:19:18,505 was because she has a visionary mind 313 00:19:18,635 --> 00:19:20,811 that is ahead of its time. 314 00:19:23,031 --> 00:19:26,817 I really do think that we're hitting within 315 00:19:26,904 --> 00:19:29,168 a 75%, 80% accuracy range. 316 00:19:30,821 --> 00:19:36,131 The balls of light are not God to me anymore. 317 00:19:36,218 --> 00:19:40,048 They're more what I would call the physics. 318 00:19:40,135 --> 00:19:42,616 That's a very contemporary way 319 00:19:42,703 --> 00:19:44,313 of expressing this, I think. 320 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,576 In other words, she's not going back to a religious framework. 321 00:19:46,707 --> 00:19:48,665 She's going to a scientific framework. 322 00:19:50,406 --> 00:19:52,800 What I'd like to submit to Jeff's collection 323 00:19:52,930 --> 00:19:59,633 is one of the small pellets, as well as some of my crystals. 324 00:19:59,763 --> 00:20:02,549 I think it's free energy. 325 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:08,903 Nancy's experience gives us a modern 326 00:20:08,990 --> 00:20:11,949 and increasingly common interpretation 327 00:20:12,036 --> 00:20:16,780 that nonhuman intelligence can be extraterrestrial. 328 00:20:18,782 --> 00:20:21,958 Our archive contains rare and unseen footage 329 00:20:21,959 --> 00:20:24,397 of a visionary Catholic priest 330 00:20:24,527 --> 00:20:28,051 who had similarly modern views on aliens 331 00:20:28,052 --> 00:20:30,185 dating back decades. 332 00:20:32,448 --> 00:20:35,277 Corrado Balducci, he was a theologian 333 00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:38,280 of the Catholic Church, an exorcist. 334 00:20:38,367 --> 00:20:40,890 He believed that extraterrestrials were 335 00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:44,112 a separate category, even, from angels and demons, 336 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:47,419 and a lot of people are upset by that. 337 00:21:40,255 --> 00:21:43,431 There's the idea that, 338 00:21:43,432 --> 00:21:47,697 if we have the smoking gun of alien contact, 339 00:21:47,828 --> 00:21:50,874 that this would decimate religion. 340 00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:54,661 This is the idea of catastrophic disclosure. 341 00:21:54,748 --> 00:21:56,619 And I definitely don't believe that. 342 00:21:56,706 --> 00:21:58,446 Religious people already have 343 00:21:58,447 --> 00:22:00,884 a category for nonhuman intelligence. 344 00:22:00,971 --> 00:22:02,843 God is a nonhuman intelligence. 345 00:22:02,930 --> 00:22:04,714 They're already comfortable with that notion. 346 00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:08,805 Balducci is a figure that I think we can look to. 347 00:22:08,936 --> 00:22:12,331 It's not a catastrophe for him to hold these beliefs 348 00:22:12,461 --> 00:22:16,552 that seem incompatible, but yet are not. 349 00:22:16,639 --> 00:22:19,990 Some religious people view nonhuman intelligence as 350 00:22:20,077 --> 00:22:24,038 being demonic, not extraterrestrial. 351 00:22:24,125 --> 00:22:25,561 With this in mind, 352 00:22:25,692 --> 00:22:27,824 I've invited our second experiencer 353 00:22:27,955 --> 00:22:31,872 to tell her own story about her demonic encounters. 354 00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:37,617 My name is Annie. 355 00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:39,749 I worked for the Los Angeles Police Department 356 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,317 for 18 years. 357 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:45,145 I am the one you call 358 00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:47,495 if something bad is happening to you. 359 00:22:47,496 --> 00:22:51,326 And yet, I barely, barely survived this. 360 00:22:53,589 --> 00:22:58,333 We cannot stop these creatures from coming into our homes. 361 00:23:05,471 --> 00:23:08,604 I lived in LA for most of my life. 362 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,002 I was brought up by my mother 363 00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:18,179 and the man who adopted me, 364 00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:20,355 who I call my father. 365 00:23:22,923 --> 00:23:25,404 I was baptized as an infant. 366 00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:29,886 I grew up being religious. 367 00:23:34,717 --> 00:23:38,591 But when I was about 13, my grandmother told me that 368 00:23:38,678 --> 00:23:43,073 my mother got pregnant very young. 369 00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:46,599 She also said that the man who I thought was my father 370 00:23:46,729 --> 00:23:48,905 was not my biological father. 371 00:23:48,992 --> 00:23:51,386 He had adopted me when I was a baby. 372 00:23:51,473 --> 00:23:55,956 So there was this question about who my real father was. 373 00:23:56,043 --> 00:24:00,047 To find out the truth, I was devastated. 374 00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:09,273 Time passed, and I was hanging out. 375 00:24:09,404 --> 00:24:12,276 I was wide awake, and suddenly, 376 00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:17,368 a very large, black shadow 377 00:24:17,499 --> 00:24:20,676 appeared in the doorway. 378 00:24:20,763 --> 00:24:24,071 I was absolutely terrified. 379 00:24:26,682 --> 00:24:28,858 And it got on top of me. 380 00:24:31,948 --> 00:24:35,169 I could feel an evil malevolence. 381 00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:37,301 I was brought up religious, 382 00:24:37,388 --> 00:24:38,912 and so I thought these were demons. 383 00:24:40,783 --> 00:24:42,611 And that's why I would pray. 384 00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:44,700 I would pray to God with everything I had. 385 00:24:46,833 --> 00:24:50,314 And it never worked. 386 00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:54,188 People have talked about experiencing demons 387 00:24:54,275 --> 00:24:58,018 as far back as we can see. 388 00:24:58,105 --> 00:25:04,764 The demon was this genius that could be bad or good. 389 00:25:04,851 --> 00:25:08,419 It's not yet clear why Annie is being targeted 390 00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:11,031 by these entities, but already, 391 00:25:11,118 --> 00:25:14,425 she adopts a different perspective from Nancy 392 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:18,081 by framing the experience through a religious lens. 393 00:25:21,258 --> 00:25:23,870 I continued to have these experiences 394 00:25:23,957 --> 00:25:26,437 throughout my 20s and 30s. 395 00:25:28,396 --> 00:25:34,489 These creatures just pour evil off of them. 396 00:25:34,576 --> 00:25:37,884 I didn't have any idea what this thing was. 397 00:25:38,014 --> 00:25:41,104 There was no internet at that time, 398 00:25:41,191 --> 00:25:43,672 and so this was, in my mind, very supernatural. 399 00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:51,375 When I was in my 20s, 400 00:25:51,462 --> 00:25:54,727 I joined the Los Angeles Police Department. 401 00:25:54,814 --> 00:25:57,730 I loved it. 402 00:25:57,860 --> 00:26:01,255 I was promoted to a detective. 403 00:26:01,342 --> 00:26:02,865 During this time, 404 00:26:02,952 --> 00:26:05,433 Elliott came on loan to our unit. 405 00:26:07,391 --> 00:26:09,524 I joined LAPD in 1993, 406 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:11,439 which was the year after the Rodney King riots. 407 00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:16,966 So Los Angeles, from a policing point of view, 408 00:26:17,053 --> 00:26:18,968 was a very busy place. 409 00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:24,626 So I went on loan 410 00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:27,847 to the narcotics undercover unit, 411 00:26:27,934 --> 00:26:30,589 and that's where we met. 412 00:26:30,719 --> 00:26:32,982 She was a very good cop-- 413 00:26:33,069 --> 00:26:34,984 brave and tough. 414 00:26:35,071 --> 00:26:37,987 But there's a soft side too. 415 00:26:42,426 --> 00:26:43,993 We started dating, 416 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,779 and we ended up getting married. 417 00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:49,433 It was actually a fabulous time in my life. 418 00:26:51,435 --> 00:26:55,004 But I had to explain to Elliot 419 00:26:55,135 --> 00:27:00,488 that I had these things, these shadows, 420 00:27:00,575 --> 00:27:02,142 visiting me in the middle of the night. 421 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:08,365 I remember Annie telling me about being paralyzed, 422 00:27:08,496 --> 00:27:11,107 but I didn't really fully understand it, 423 00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:13,196 because I never experienced it. 424 00:27:13,327 --> 00:27:16,069 I never thought I was hallucinating 425 00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:18,027 because it was so terrifying. 426 00:27:20,290 --> 00:27:24,643 I had periods of waking up 427 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:28,037 with unexplained bruises on my body. 428 00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:30,300 I had scratches. 429 00:27:30,387 --> 00:27:33,260 It was absolutely bizarre. 430 00:27:36,176 --> 00:27:38,874 To have a bruise like that on the inside of your thigh, 431 00:27:38,961 --> 00:27:41,442 that big, you would know if you did it. 432 00:27:41,529 --> 00:27:44,880 How is that possibly happening? 433 00:27:45,011 --> 00:27:46,708 Within the history of Catholicism, 434 00:27:46,795 --> 00:27:49,189 the very famous Saint Padre Pio 435 00:27:49,276 --> 00:27:54,020 would keep diaries of his experiences, 436 00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:56,936 and he would say that he had 437 00:27:57,023 --> 00:28:00,243 had physical scuffles with the dark side 438 00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:04,944 and have bruises and scratches. 439 00:28:05,074 --> 00:28:07,207 So you do see this within the Catholic tradition. 440 00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:12,255 I frequently went to church, 441 00:28:12,342 --> 00:28:16,651 and I would pray for help, because I didn't have 442 00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:18,653 a lot of context for it other than, 443 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:20,786 these are demons that are after me. 444 00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,225 How did I become a focus 445 00:28:25,355 --> 00:28:27,096 of nonhuman intelligence? 446 00:28:27,183 --> 00:28:28,837 How did this happen? 447 00:28:31,274 --> 00:28:32,841 When I was in my 30s, 448 00:28:32,928 --> 00:28:36,365 I started looking at adoption forums 449 00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:40,370 to see if I could find my biological father, 450 00:28:40,457 --> 00:28:45,419 and I came across a post from him. 451 00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:49,902 We became in touch, and we decided that 452 00:28:49,989 --> 00:28:51,251 we would meet up for lunch. 453 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:57,126 It was a very strange meeting. 454 00:28:57,213 --> 00:29:00,869 He was very, very slippery. 455 00:29:03,219 --> 00:29:08,007 He was trying to answer questions that Annie had, 456 00:29:08,137 --> 00:29:11,532 but at the same time, almost as though he was lying. 457 00:29:13,403 --> 00:29:15,536 I gave him a journal, 458 00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:19,409 and this journal asks a lot of leading questions 459 00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:22,064 like, what was your childhood like? 460 00:29:22,151 --> 00:29:23,762 And I thought that this was a really good way 461 00:29:23,849 --> 00:29:25,372 for me to get to know him. 462 00:29:27,853 --> 00:29:32,509 And during that first meeting, it came up that 463 00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:34,990 we worked for the Los Angeles Police Department. 464 00:29:37,732 --> 00:29:41,214 My biological father said, "I'm gonna have to 465 00:29:41,344 --> 00:29:45,392 let you know that I did five years in prison." 466 00:29:47,568 --> 00:29:51,528 Ultimately, I discovered that he was involved 467 00:29:51,615 --> 00:29:55,402 with an international human trafficking ring. 468 00:29:55,489 --> 00:29:58,535 He was running a brothel. 469 00:29:58,622 --> 00:30:01,495 He procured underage girls. 470 00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:06,543 And he was carrying out occult rituals. 471 00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:09,764 Several of the city management of San Francisco 472 00:30:09,851 --> 00:30:14,247 and the police department were customers of his. 473 00:30:14,334 --> 00:30:17,728 What he was saying was so incredibly outrageous. 474 00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:19,252 I had a hard time believing it. 475 00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:24,735 I actually called the newspaper 476 00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:28,957 in San Francisco to verify, 477 00:30:29,088 --> 00:30:31,786 and everything he told me turned out to be true. 478 00:30:33,353 --> 00:30:35,659 I was horrified. 479 00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:40,794 Here I was, on one side of the law, 480 00:30:40,795 --> 00:30:45,234 and after 35 years of not knowing my biological father, 481 00:30:45,321 --> 00:30:46,714 I find out that 482 00:30:46,801 --> 00:30:49,238 he's the absolute worst of the worst. 483 00:30:56,202 --> 00:30:59,031 I had a falling out with my biological father, 484 00:30:59,118 --> 00:31:03,034 and I got the journal back from him, 485 00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:07,866 and I put it away in my storage unit 486 00:31:07,996 --> 00:31:10,825 and didn't have a look at it. 487 00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:16,135 I didn't want any contact with this man ever again. 488 00:31:21,923 --> 00:31:25,839 I continued to have experiences with entities. 489 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:31,802 Things started to escalate for me, 490 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,980 and one night, I was taking a shower, 491 00:31:35,067 --> 00:31:36,633 and I was praying... 492 00:31:39,767 --> 00:31:45,555 And then a very beautiful woman came down from above, 493 00:31:45,642 --> 00:31:49,995 and she came down into my body. 494 00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:52,127 I felt her looking out of my eyes. 495 00:31:54,738 --> 00:31:57,393 Because I was praying, I assumed 496 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,484 this was going to be a good entity, 497 00:32:01,571 --> 00:32:04,791 but there was something malevolent about her... 498 00:32:06,446 --> 00:32:08,796 And I really felt like 499 00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:11,450 this entity wanted to steal my soul. 500 00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:17,022 NHI being interested in our souls-- 501 00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:20,242 so this is a belief that a lot of spiritual people have. 502 00:32:20,329 --> 00:32:24,029 There are researchers who have written books about this too. 503 00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:29,556 One of the most well-known researchers in this field, 504 00:32:29,643 --> 00:32:33,168 Budd Hopkins, began to take on this idea that 505 00:32:33,299 --> 00:32:37,216 maybe these experiences were harmful to people. 506 00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:38,521 That's OK. 507 00:32:38,608 --> 00:32:40,349 Lie down. You're OK, John. 508 00:32:40,436 --> 00:32:43,352 What always happens is the person is paralyzed. 509 00:32:43,439 --> 00:32:44,484 They cannot move. 510 00:32:44,614 --> 00:32:46,137 They can be in bed at night. 511 00:32:46,138 --> 00:32:47,487 What just happened? 512 00:32:47,574 --> 00:32:49,836 - Someone came in the room. - Uh-huh. 513 00:32:49,837 --> 00:32:53,753 Case after case after case replicated the cases before. 514 00:32:53,754 --> 00:32:57,149 And from my own research, what I can say is that 515 00:32:57,236 --> 00:33:00,195 more than 60% of the people that have talked to me 516 00:33:00,326 --> 00:33:02,763 about their own experiences with NHI, 517 00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:05,721 these experiences were scary. 518 00:33:05,722 --> 00:33:09,813 They would prefer not to have had them. 519 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:11,685 This was something that was very difficult 520 00:33:11,772 --> 00:33:13,861 for me to deal with. 521 00:33:13,948 --> 00:33:17,125 By day, I'm the person you call 522 00:33:17,212 --> 00:33:20,085 if something horrible is happening to you. 523 00:33:20,172 --> 00:33:24,524 By night, I--I became helpless. 524 00:33:24,611 --> 00:33:26,439 I think that people like Annie are 525 00:33:26,526 --> 00:33:28,354 forces of good in the world. 526 00:33:28,441 --> 00:33:32,358 And if we're truly talking about something malevolent, 527 00:33:32,445 --> 00:33:34,099 of course they're gonna want to take down 528 00:33:34,186 --> 00:33:35,709 those forces of good. 529 00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:40,757 So after that incident in the shower, 530 00:33:40,844 --> 00:33:45,762 I reached out to a handful of paranormal researchers. 531 00:33:47,155 --> 00:33:51,245 And I was told that there was an occult connection 532 00:33:51,246 --> 00:33:54,945 to people who experience demons. 533 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:59,254 One of the very first questions I was asked was, 534 00:33:59,341 --> 00:34:03,518 who in your family is involved in the occult? 535 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:07,261 And right away, I realized my biological father 536 00:34:07,262 --> 00:34:09,002 had been performing occult rituals. 537 00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:15,749 And I was cleaning out my storage unit, 538 00:34:15,879 --> 00:34:18,272 and I came across that journal 539 00:34:18,273 --> 00:34:21,755 that my biological father had given me. 540 00:34:21,842 --> 00:34:24,627 And when I looked through this journal, 541 00:34:24,714 --> 00:34:27,891 it all just hit me. 542 00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:31,330 He walked out of his Catholic religion 543 00:34:31,417 --> 00:34:33,506 and into Luciferianism... 544 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:41,948 The belief that Satan is actually the good guy. 545 00:34:41,949 --> 00:34:47,346 "I used to believe in Christ until God showed me different. 546 00:34:47,433 --> 00:34:51,132 "What is the strangest thing you have ever seen? 547 00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:54,482 The devil." 548 00:34:54,483 --> 00:34:58,704 I decided to email my biological father. 549 00:34:58,705 --> 00:35:02,230 In this email exchange, he told me that 550 00:35:02,361 --> 00:35:08,236 he was carrying out occult rituals out in the desert, 551 00:35:08,367 --> 00:35:13,546 and he had come into contact with a female entity 552 00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:16,157 that he describes as The Lady. 553 00:35:18,594 --> 00:35:21,075 There was an email exchange 554 00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:24,339 where he told me he worked for the mob. 555 00:35:24,426 --> 00:35:27,821 He claimed that these entities had saved his life 556 00:35:27,908 --> 00:35:29,953 on multiple occasions and that he was 557 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,172 devoted to these entities. 558 00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:38,396 He was performing sexual abuse and rituals 559 00:35:38,397 --> 00:35:41,486 in order to gain favor from these entities. 560 00:35:41,487 --> 00:35:43,489 A light bulb came on. 561 00:35:43,576 --> 00:35:47,884 The connection that I'm having to these entities 562 00:35:47,971 --> 00:35:50,931 could have originated with my biological father. 563 00:35:57,938 --> 00:35:59,722 My biological father, 564 00:35:59,809 --> 00:36:03,422 he had chosen to worship Satan. 565 00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:07,774 He was in contact with an entity called The Lady. 566 00:36:11,908 --> 00:36:14,650 This sounds like an intentional bargain. 567 00:36:14,737 --> 00:36:18,350 Annie believes her father made a deal with the devil, 568 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,527 which is different than Nancy, 569 00:36:21,614 --> 00:36:23,529 who fell under the spell of the light beings 570 00:36:23,659 --> 00:36:26,488 before they turned on her. 571 00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:32,842 My biological father had never seen me as a baby. 572 00:36:32,929 --> 00:36:36,150 We didn't have any contact whatsoever. 573 00:36:36,237 --> 00:36:39,632 And yet he had experienced the very same entity 574 00:36:39,762 --> 00:36:42,243 that I had experienced. 575 00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:44,853 All of these experiences actually sent me 576 00:36:44,854 --> 00:36:48,249 into a spiritual crisis. 577 00:36:54,429 --> 00:36:56,866 I met a pastor, 578 00:36:56,953 --> 00:36:59,434 and we decided it was a good idea 579 00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:02,481 to go to deliverance, an exorcism. 580 00:37:08,051 --> 00:37:10,358 There was probably about ten of us in the church. 581 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,145 They were aware of my biological father's 582 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:17,235 involvement with the occult. 583 00:37:19,454 --> 00:37:23,241 They were focused on exorcizing The Lady. 584 00:37:25,634 --> 00:37:27,375 They were telling The Lady that 585 00:37:27,462 --> 00:37:30,857 she had to get out of my body. 586 00:37:30,944 --> 00:37:34,208 But I feel her in there again. 587 00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:40,519 So they aggressively start praying. 588 00:37:43,913 --> 00:37:46,046 It almost seemed as though there was a fight going on. 589 00:37:47,787 --> 00:37:51,225 The gentleman to my left was butting heads with the entity. 590 00:37:53,619 --> 00:37:57,187 My entire body was vibrating. 591 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,671 And eventually, that entity did come out. 592 00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:10,026 And according to the reaction on Annie's face, 593 00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:12,202 something did change. 594 00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:18,774 I always believed in God, but I was just at a distance. 595 00:38:18,861 --> 00:38:22,474 But after Annie's deliverance, 596 00:38:22,561 --> 00:38:25,346 that's when everything clicked for me. 597 00:38:25,433 --> 00:38:28,175 I believe the demonic is 100% real. 598 00:38:28,262 --> 00:38:29,742 It is 100% real. 599 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,358 After the deliverance, I felt a lot better. 600 00:38:37,445 --> 00:38:39,882 My injuries went down. 601 00:38:39,969 --> 00:38:44,191 I stopped seeing the scratches and the bruises. 602 00:38:44,278 --> 00:38:47,455 My faith was restored. 603 00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:51,416 I couldn't have gotten through any of this without Elliot. 604 00:38:51,503 --> 00:38:53,592 I love him very much. 605 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,381 We use this word "genetic" too loosely, 606 00:39:00,512 --> 00:39:03,210 but there's something in the family 607 00:39:03,297 --> 00:39:05,733 that's passed from generation to generation. 608 00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:08,084 It's so interesting that, you know, the idea 609 00:39:08,171 --> 00:39:09,999 of the generational curse, right... 610 00:39:10,086 --> 00:39:13,568 - Yeah. - Is--is here, exemplified. 611 00:39:13,655 --> 00:39:16,266 Annie is convinced that 612 00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:19,400 she is a victim of a generational curse. 613 00:39:19,487 --> 00:39:23,404 It's an ancient idea that we see across traditions, 614 00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:26,276 from the Bible to Greek tragedy. 615 00:39:28,757 --> 00:39:32,108 I had been told by multiple researchers 616 00:39:32,195 --> 00:39:36,983 that these entities owned me before I was even born 617 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:40,378 because of the contact they had with my biological father. 618 00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:49,169 I would like to submit to Jeff the journal. 619 00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:53,956 Once I found this journal, I did not keep this in my house 620 00:39:54,087 --> 00:39:57,960 because of the idea of entanglement. 621 00:40:01,660 --> 00:40:04,924 I wonder if Annie and Nancy are part of a select group 622 00:40:05,011 --> 00:40:07,535 who are able to see nonhuman intelligences. 623 00:40:09,319 --> 00:40:12,235 Their cases are very different. 624 00:40:12,366 --> 00:40:15,848 Annie's experience is rooted in a religious framework. 625 00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:17,937 She relies on her faith 626 00:40:18,024 --> 00:40:21,419 to free her from demonic encounters. 627 00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:24,552 But Nancy views her 25-year relationship 628 00:40:24,683 --> 00:40:28,469 with extraterrestrials through a scientific lens, 629 00:40:28,556 --> 00:40:31,472 and she's never managed to free herself 630 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:33,779 from the light beings. 631 00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:37,043 So in a way, science just can't give us 632 00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:38,697 the answers we seek. 633 00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:43,179 Yet religion can, in some way, give us comfort. 634 00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:46,748 I think cases like Annie's and cases like Nancy 635 00:40:46,835 --> 00:40:49,446 are good indications that we can try 636 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:50,752 to get rid of religion, right? 637 00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:52,450 So we can say, oh, we're secularized, 638 00:40:52,537 --> 00:40:54,277 you know, we're rational, and so forth, 639 00:40:54,364 --> 00:40:57,933 but these kinds of things still happen to people. 640 00:40:58,064 --> 00:41:01,459 I don't see why we would throw religious frameworks away, 641 00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:03,722 because they've helped us deal with NHI 642 00:41:03,852 --> 00:41:07,508 for thousands of years. 643 00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,729 We need more data on these entities, 644 00:41:10,859 --> 00:41:13,340 and that is why these stories are so important 645 00:41:13,427 --> 00:41:16,778 for our collection. 646 00:41:16,865 --> 00:41:19,607 If Nancy is controlled by aliens 647 00:41:19,694 --> 00:41:22,436 and Annie is possessed by demons, 648 00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:25,265 are they really describing two different things? 649 00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:36,015 The truth is in the eye of the experiencer. 650 00:41:36,102 --> 00:41:39,801 Within these walls, our archive has evidence 651 00:41:39,888 --> 00:41:45,372 that telepathy is real, dreamers become prophets, 652 00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:50,246 aliens abduct, and the dead can speak. 653 00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:54,207 While tensions continue between science and religion, 654 00:41:54,294 --> 00:41:57,384 we are seeing that these extrasensory abilities 655 00:41:57,471 --> 00:42:00,039 could be connected. 656 00:42:00,126 --> 00:42:05,610 We are awakening to our own superhuman potential. 657 00:42:05,697 --> 00:42:08,090 Maybe it's ourselves that we've been waiting for. 658 00:42:10,658 --> 00:42:14,488 The truth is not just out there. 659 00:42:14,575 --> 00:42:17,535 It's in here.