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It's the police.
Simon Blackwell from Cheshire.
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Can we come in? We need to speak to you.
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- Yeah, come in.
- Thanks. Sorry about coming in…
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- Lucy?
- Yeah.
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I'm gonna come in, okay?
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Please can I see my cat?
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You know I didn't do it.
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- I know you didn't!
- I know!
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We know that!
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We have gone through
the evidence case by case
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and given you the opportunity
to provide explanations throughout.
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You wrote a note
saying, "I am evil. I did this."
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If you haven't been involved
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in the collapses and deaths
of these babies,
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why did you write a note
which clearly states you were responsible,
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that you killed them on purpose?
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No comment.
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This interview is being recorded.
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It's now recording every word
that is said in this interview.
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Introduce yourself, please.
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- Date of birth?
- Fourth of the first, 1990.
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This interview is your opportunity
to put forward your response
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to the reasons why you've been arrested.
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If you are innocent
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and have any reasonable explanation,
defense, or alibi,
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we will search for evidence
that will support you.
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We're not here to judge you.
Do you understand that, Lucy?
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Yes.
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So tell me about what happens
with a baby's first feed.
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So the doctors will tell you
when they're happy
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for a baby to commence feeds.
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And they would be fed
via the nasogastric tube.
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And we… Usually, for a premature baby,
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we would prefer to give either breast milk
or donor breast milk.
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We wouldn't usually give formula
to a baby of that size.
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We're gonna talk about ***.
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At 16:01 hours on 20th June 2015,
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she was born by cesarean section
and transferred to the neonatal ward.
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At 04:25 hours on 22nd June 2015,
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♪ was pronounced deceased.
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Is there anything you can tell us
about what happened to her?
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I don't really remember ***.
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You can't remember any collapse
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or any involvement in the care
at that time?
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No.
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Are you gonna search the house?
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Okay, just put your arms out for me.
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What's your current occupation?
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Children's nurse.
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Okay, this interview is being recorded.
I am Detective Constable Lee.
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- The other officer present is…
- 3201 Vikki Holt.
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Please introduce yourself again
for me, Lucy.
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Lucy Letby.
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So, in general terms,
during the resuscitation,
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what are the roles--
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Usually, the medical staff
have the airway.
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They would be delivering
the resuscitation drugs.
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- So two people would be doing the drugs.
- Okay.
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And then ideally have somebody
supporting the parents.
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So who takes the notes
during the resus attempts?
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Ideally, you would have a scribe there.
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So, usually,
one of the junior doctors would take on,
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or one of the nurses would take on
the scribing role.
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Just prior to the collapse, Lucy,
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had you had any cause
to go into Nursery One at all?
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I don't remember.
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Right. Were you working in Nursery One?
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I don't think I was, but I don't recall
which baby I was looking after.
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And you… you don't remember
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the process of how you ended up
in Nursery One, with the resus?
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No.
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Are you aware
of why he required resuscitation?
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No, I don't recall
the events leading up to that.
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I just know that he had resuscitation.
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It's the police.
Simon Blackwell from Cheshire.
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Can we come in? We need to speak to you.
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Lucy?
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I'm gonna come in, okay?
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This is a continuation
of a series of interviews, Lucy.
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As you can see, the red light has come on.
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This interview is
also being visually recorded
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and monitored upstairs.
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Your home address was searched,
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and a large quantity
of these handover sheets
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were found at your home address.
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Can you explain that?
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They're just sheets that have
inadvertently come home in my pocket.
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I've not emptied my pockets
before coming home.
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Explain to me why you put them
all together in a folder.
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I didn't know
how to dispose of them myself,
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so I didn't dispose of them.
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You didn't know how to dispose of them?
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No.
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Have you previously taken
any of these handover sheets home
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and disposed of them?
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No, I don't think so.
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'Cause I haven't got a shredder,
and that's how I would…
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that's how I'd have to get rid of them.
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Do those sheets that are in your folder
that you kept at your home address, Lucy,
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relate to babies
which you were designated nurse for?
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Yes.
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My colleague asked you
about the collapses of the babies,
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and you said that you recorded those.
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- Why?
- I think I've made reference.
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I don't know
in what way I've recorded them.
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Right.
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I think there were some days
in my diary that I've…
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I've asterisked or marked days that were…
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that we had a baby
that was particularly unwell.
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And what was the purpose of that?
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Don't know. Just for my own…
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Your own what?
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I don't know.
My own reflection, I suppose.
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Why would you want to reflect
on those, Lucy?
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I don't talk to anybody about it.
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I just internalize things
and do it in my own time.
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I'm gonna read you
an extract from it, and it says,
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"Murderer. Murder."
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"No one will ever know
what happened and why."
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Explain these comments to me, Lucy.
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No comment.
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Tell me about the comment "murderer."
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No comment.
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Are you suggesting there
that you are a murderer?
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No comment.
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Tell me about,
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"No one will ever know
what happened and why."
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- No comment.
- What does that mean, Lucy?
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No comment.
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Lucy, since you left the unit,
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887 babies of 32 weeks' gestation
or greater
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were born
at the Countess of Chester Hospital
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and admitted to the NNU.
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None of these babies since you left died
or deteriorated unexpectedly.
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Have you got any comment
you wish to make about this?
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No comment.
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With all the evidence
we have available at this time,
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it clearly shows
that you were the only person present
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for all of the 25 collapses
and the deaths of the 17 babies
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and would suggest you are responsible.
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No one else, Lucy. Only you.
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Lucy, f there is an explanation
for why you are responsible,
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now is your final opportunity
to explain why this is to us.
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No comment.
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Okay.
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Okay, the time by my watch is 16:10 hours,
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and this interview is now concluded.
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Is she upstairs?
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We're gonna talk about ***.
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There's six pages there
of her medical charts
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that you've got your name next to.
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Is it fair to say
you were involved somewhat with her care?
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Yes.
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Tell us about what happened to ***.
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I don't really remember ***.
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Do you recall getting involved
with the resuscitation at all?
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Not that I remember.
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Dr. Evans said her collapse is consistent
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with the effect of an air embolus
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caused by an injection of air
into her circulation
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when the designated nurse
was not in the room,
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but you were.
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Right.
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Have you got any explanation
to that, Lucy?
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No.
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From the evidence provided, Lucy,
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it shows that you were present
when *** collapsed.
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Do you agree with that?
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You were working in Nursery One
when a nurse was in there.
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She had gone out for a reason.
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If that's what she says.
I don't recall specifically where I was.
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Is there a reason why you remembered
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the administering of the medication
and not the collapses, Lucy?
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No, I've only remembered the medication
from looking through the notes
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and seeing
that I obviously did sign for medications.
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Is it because you remember
the administration of the medication?
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Because that's when you took
the opportunity to attack…
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No.
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…and administer air?
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- No.
- No?
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No.
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On 25th June,
you did a Facebook search for ***.
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And on 25th June again,
you then searched for *****.
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Do you agree you made those searches
on Facebook, Lucy?
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I don't think I recall doing it,
but, yes, I must have if it's there, yeah.
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Were you looking for photographs
of the babies, Lucy?
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No.
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- You don't know what you were looking for?
- No.
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Whoever gave him his insulin
would have done so
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knowing it would've placed him
in harm's way
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and could have caused his death
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or led to him having
irreversible life-changing injuries.
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Do you agree with that statement, Lucy?
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Yes.
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You've confirmed your signature
on the TPN prescription.
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- Did you administer…
- No.
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- …insulin into the bags of TPN, Lucy?
- No.
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The question to you is,
did you administer insulin?
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No.
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Because the experts think someone has.
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You were caring for him.
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I didn't.
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- Do you know who did?
- No.
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You wrote a note saying,
"I am evil. I did this."
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"I don't deserve to live."
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"I killed them on purpose."
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"I am a horrible, evil person."
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Explain why this is to us.
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No comment.
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The jury in the trial
of the nurse Lucy Letby
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has retired to consider its verdict.
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Okay, Lucy, I am really concerned
about what you've written down
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and what you've implied you might've done.
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Anything you want to tell us?
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I just wrote it
'cause everything had got on top of me.
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It was when I had not long found out
I'd been removed from the unit.
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I felt like they were…
blaming my practice,
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that I might have hurt them
without knowing, through my practice,
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and that made me feel guilty.
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Do you want to elaborate on
some of the things you put down on there?
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I was blaming myself.
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But not because I'd done something.
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Because of the way
people were making me feel.
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I felt like I'd only ever done my best
for those babies,
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and then people were trying to say
that my practice wasn't good
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or that I'd done something,
and I just… I couldn't cope with it.
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And I did just not wanna be here anymore.
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You say, "There are no words.
"I can't breathe. I can't focus."
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I just felt like it was all just
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spiraling out of control.
I just didn't know how to feel about it
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or what was gonna happen or what to do.
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Just felt that the trust and the team
were trying to imply
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that it was something that I'd done.
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Was there any individuals
that… implied that?
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Yeah, some of the consultants.
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Can you give a reason why
they might wanna victimize you or…
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point the finger towards you?
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It crossed my mind at times whether
they were trying to put the blame on me
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for something that somebody else had done.
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In terms of overwhelming fear and panic,
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what were you afraid of?
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That they were going to think
I had done something wrong.
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Okay, and what would happen
if they thought that?
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That this would happen.
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- Right.
- That the police would get involved.
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- And is that what happened--
- And I'd lose my job.
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And was it a job that you enjoyed?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I loved my job.
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Okay.
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We've spent several days
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questioning and discussing with you
in depth
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your involvement in the murders
and attempted murders of 17 babies,
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which you have constantly denied, Lucy.
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Have you got any comment you wish to make?
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No comment.