1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.LT 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.LT 3 00:00:15,933 --> 00:00:18,437 [tense music] 4 00:00:29,405 --> 00:00:31,783 - [Narrator] "Then another sign appeared in heaven, 5 00:00:31,908 --> 00:00:34,702 an enormous red dragon." 6 00:00:34,827 --> 00:00:36,287 Revelation 12:3. 7 00:00:37,455 --> 00:00:40,750 [tense music continues] 8 00:01:01,062 --> 00:01:06,108 [birds chirping] [bright music] 9 00:01:37,348 --> 00:01:39,933 [Adhan echoes] 10 00:01:51,278 --> 00:01:56,283 [rockets whizzing] [Hamas militants shouting] 11 00:01:57,035 --> 00:01:58,828 [intense music] 12 00:01:58,953 --> 00:02:01,747 [explosions blasting] 13 00:02:01,873 --> 00:02:04,625 [people shouting] 14 00:02:10,088 --> 00:02:13,383 [explosions blasting] [people screaming] 15 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:14,968 [people screaming] 16 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:19,432 [crowd shouting in foreign language] 17 00:02:20,433 --> 00:02:24,020 [intense music continues] 18 00:02:40,912 --> 00:02:44,457 [people shouting and crying] 19 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:48,168 - [Dinesh] Once again, an armed attack in the Middle East. 20 00:02:48,293 --> 00:02:50,963 [somber music] But this time, it's different. 21 00:02:51,088 --> 00:02:55,427 [crowd shouting in foreign language] 22 00:03:00,598 --> 00:03:03,893 Palestinians celebrated as Hamas terrorists 23 00:03:04,018 --> 00:03:06,645 paraded their prisoners through Gaza, 24 00:03:06,770 --> 00:03:09,107 of which many were women and children. 25 00:03:09,232 --> 00:03:11,358 - [Netanyahu] October 7th is a day 26 00:03:11,483 --> 00:03:14,153 that will forever live in infamy. 27 00:03:14,278 --> 00:03:16,155 [somber music] 28 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,365 They raped women. 29 00:03:18,490 --> 00:03:20,660 They beheaded men. 30 00:03:20,785 --> 00:03:23,830 They killed parents in front of their children 31 00:03:23,955 --> 00:03:26,707 and children in front of their parents. 32 00:03:26,832 --> 00:03:29,460 It was the bloodiest attack on the Jewish people 33 00:03:29,585 --> 00:03:31,295 since the Holocaust. 34 00:03:32,838 --> 00:03:34,798 - [Dinesh] 1,200 murdered, 35 00:03:36,883 --> 00:03:38,970 250 taken hostage. 36 00:03:39,095 --> 00:03:42,057 [somber music continues] 37 00:03:42,182 --> 00:03:46,393 The Israelis intercepted a call from a Hamas terrorist 38 00:03:46,518 --> 00:03:48,103 during the attack. 39 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:50,398 - [Hamas Militant's Father] Hello. 40 00:04:24,265 --> 00:04:27,685 [somber music continues] 41 00:04:51,125 --> 00:04:53,293 - Rafaela Treistman and her boyfriend, 42 00:04:53,418 --> 00:04:56,588 Ranani Glazer, were at the Nova Festival 43 00:04:56,713 --> 00:04:59,175 three miles from the Gaza border. 44 00:04:59,342 --> 00:05:02,803 You came here on October 7th for a music festival. 45 00:05:02,928 --> 00:05:05,097 - [Rafaela] My boyfriend, Ranani, was crazy 46 00:05:05,222 --> 00:05:07,600 about this type of parties. [energetic music] 47 00:05:07,725 --> 00:05:10,143 So you had artists from all around the world 48 00:05:10,268 --> 00:05:12,730 and people from all around the world. 49 00:05:12,855 --> 00:05:14,732 - When did you get the first indication 50 00:05:14,857 --> 00:05:16,608 that something was wrong? 51 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:19,153 - [Rafaela] I mean, we're all dancing and happy 52 00:05:19,278 --> 00:05:20,905 and we were in front of the main stage. 53 00:05:21,030 --> 00:05:22,115 The sun started to come up 54 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,158 and everybody started to feel more and more energized, 55 00:05:25,283 --> 00:05:27,745 and, suddenly, the music just stopped. 56 00:05:27,870 --> 00:05:29,747 [crowd shouting] 57 00:05:29,872 --> 00:05:33,375 [explosions booming] 58 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:34,335 - Yeah. - And then we started 59 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:37,088 hearing a lot of rockets and we started seeing from Gaza, 60 00:05:37,213 --> 00:05:38,047 which is from there. 61 00:05:38,172 --> 00:05:38,882 [person speaking in foreign language] 62 00:05:39,007 --> 00:05:40,173 - A lot of rockets in the sky. 63 00:05:40,298 --> 00:05:41,758 And we started running. 64 00:05:41,883 --> 00:05:43,093 [tense music] 65 00:05:43,218 --> 00:05:45,262 [camera person shouting in foreign language] 66 00:05:45,388 --> 00:05:47,765 [gunfire popping] 67 00:05:47,890 --> 00:05:50,768 [crowd shouting in foreign language] 68 00:05:50,893 --> 00:05:53,395 We went to the 233 road, 69 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,898 which nowadays, is known as the Death Road. 70 00:05:56,023 --> 00:05:58,192 And we started running and searching for shelter 71 00:05:58,317 --> 00:06:01,153 because in every bus station, you have a road shelter, 72 00:06:01,278 --> 00:06:05,950 which is basically this small blocks of cement with no door. 73 00:06:06,075 --> 00:06:07,285 And we got into one of those 74 00:06:07,410 --> 00:06:09,662 and hoped that would be all the protection that we need, 75 00:06:09,787 --> 00:06:11,205 and we were wrong. 76 00:06:12,623 --> 00:06:14,875 We sat at the very back of the shelter, 77 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,502 and a few minutes after, 78 00:06:16,627 --> 00:06:18,755 a lot of people started to come inside. 79 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,548 And we became to be 40 people. 80 00:06:20,673 --> 00:06:22,048 - Yeah. - Very claustrophobic 81 00:06:22,175 --> 00:06:25,135 and one person on top of the other, and we couldn't breathe. 82 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:28,513 [tense music continues] 83 00:06:28,638 --> 00:06:30,808 When they got there, the first thing that they did 84 00:06:30,933 --> 00:06:32,810 was to murder a police officer 85 00:06:32,935 --> 00:06:36,147 that we heard screaming from the outside of the shelter. 86 00:06:36,272 --> 00:06:39,025 [gunfire popping] 87 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:42,403 Everyone that tried to get outside, was shot at. 88 00:06:42,528 --> 00:06:43,695 [gunfire popping] 89 00:06:43,822 --> 00:06:46,198 Now they threw inside gas grenades, 90 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,202 shrapnel grenades, hand grenades. 91 00:06:49,327 --> 00:06:51,287 [explosions booming] 92 00:06:51,412 --> 00:06:53,998 And they started taking people out 93 00:06:54,123 --> 00:06:55,583 and burning bodies outside. 94 00:06:55,708 --> 00:06:57,335 - And what are you doing? 95 00:06:57,460 --> 00:06:59,045 Are you crouching down? - I was in the floor 96 00:06:59,170 --> 00:06:59,837 under people. - Are you at the bottom? 97 00:06:59,962 --> 00:07:00,838 - And they were just piled 98 00:07:00,963 --> 00:07:02,088 on top of you? - Yes. 99 00:07:04,717 --> 00:07:07,428 - It was just a huge mess and blood everywhere and parts 100 00:07:07,553 --> 00:07:11,432 and people dismembered and very badly injured. 101 00:07:12,558 --> 00:07:15,687 And I just stayed like that for about five hours. 102 00:07:15,812 --> 00:07:18,563 Out of the 40 people, only 10 survived. 103 00:07:18,688 --> 00:07:21,275 So, 30 were murdered inside of the shelter. 104 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,318 [somber music] 105 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:25,278 Ranani also tried to get out. 106 00:07:27,072 --> 00:07:30,702 When I got out, I saw Ranani's body on the entrance. 107 00:07:32,412 --> 00:07:35,748 - How have you recovered psychologically? 108 00:07:35,873 --> 00:07:37,625 - It's very hard to believe what happened, 109 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:39,710 even though I was there and seen with my own eyes 110 00:07:39,835 --> 00:07:43,213 and seeing them laughing and killing and having fun with it, 111 00:07:43,338 --> 00:07:45,298 and when they would actually get inside to shoot people, 112 00:07:45,423 --> 00:07:47,468 they were laughing, but laughing 113 00:07:47,593 --> 00:07:50,095 like someone told the best joke that you ever heard. 114 00:07:50,220 --> 00:07:53,765 - Is that to you, almost like a definition of true evil? 115 00:07:54,808 --> 00:07:57,353 - Yeah, I couldn't see a soul. 116 00:07:59,022 --> 00:08:00,607 It's only darkness. 117 00:08:05,068 --> 00:08:08,697 - [Dinesh] A glimpse into the mind of a Hamas militant. 118 00:08:19,875 --> 00:08:21,793 - [Dinesh] The Israeli Defense Forces 119 00:08:21,918 --> 00:08:24,797 interrogate a terrorist who attacked a kibbutz. 120 00:08:41,730 --> 00:08:44,233 [tense music] 121 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:47,068 - That's Gaza. 122 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:54,243 I didn't expect to be here. 123 00:08:54,368 --> 00:08:56,120 When we came to Israel, our friends said, 124 00:08:56,245 --> 00:08:57,037 "What are you doing? 125 00:08:57,162 --> 00:08:58,288 There's a war going on. 126 00:08:58,413 --> 00:09:00,540 You're not going to go to Gaza, are you?" 127 00:09:00,667 --> 00:09:02,668 We said, "Of course not." 128 00:09:02,793 --> 00:09:04,253 But here we are. 129 00:09:04,378 --> 00:09:07,840 [people shouting urgently] 130 00:09:07,965 --> 00:09:09,925 [gunfire popping] [tense music continues] 131 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:12,218 Hamas attacked 19 kibbutz communities 132 00:09:12,345 --> 00:09:14,722 [people shouting] during October 7th. 133 00:09:14,847 --> 00:09:16,098 [gentle music] 134 00:09:16,223 --> 00:09:19,102 One was Nahal Oz near the Gaza border. 135 00:09:21,895 --> 00:09:24,482 Lishay Miran, a mother and wife, 136 00:09:24,607 --> 00:09:27,067 was there on that fateful day. 137 00:09:27,192 --> 00:09:30,487 Lishay, the very short time we have been here 138 00:09:30,613 --> 00:09:34,992 at your house, we hear these loud explosions. 139 00:09:35,117 --> 00:09:37,745 [explosion booming] There you go. Right there. 140 00:09:37,870 --> 00:09:39,747 - Well, this is our life. 141 00:09:39,872 --> 00:09:42,082 [intense music] 142 00:09:42,207 --> 00:09:44,585 [explosions blasting] 143 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:46,378 [people shouting] 144 00:09:46,503 --> 00:09:48,880 - [Dinesh] While we were filming near the Gaza border, 145 00:09:49,007 --> 00:09:51,883 the IDF was targeting terrorists. 146 00:09:52,008 --> 00:09:55,428 Machine gun fire and artillery rounds were constant. 147 00:09:55,553 --> 00:09:58,765 How far is it from here to the Gaza border? 148 00:09:58,890 --> 00:10:01,852 - We are 700 meters from Gaza border. 149 00:10:01,977 --> 00:10:04,772 - 700 meters. - Yeah, that's it. 150 00:10:04,897 --> 00:10:07,525 - [Dinesh] On October 7th, what happened? 151 00:10:07,650 --> 00:10:09,443 - We were here in our home. 152 00:10:09,568 --> 00:10:12,363 [sirens wailing] When everything starts, 153 00:10:12,488 --> 00:10:14,990 we go to our safe room. 154 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:17,117 - [Dinesh] Lishay, her husband Omri, 155 00:10:17,242 --> 00:10:19,495 and two children sheltered in place. 156 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:21,288 - [Lishay] But around 9:00, 157 00:10:21,413 --> 00:10:22,122 [people speaking in foreign language] 158 00:10:22,247 --> 00:10:24,292 we start to hear the shooting and the yelling. 159 00:10:24,417 --> 00:10:28,795 [explosions blasting] [gunfire popping] 160 00:10:31,048 --> 00:10:36,053 [Hamas militants speaking in foreign language] 161 00:10:36,845 --> 00:10:40,850 - At 10:30, they get into our home from the window, 162 00:10:41,850 --> 00:10:44,145 and Alma was in my arms. 163 00:10:44,270 --> 00:10:47,147 I put my hand on her mouth 164 00:10:47,272 --> 00:10:52,193 because I really scared that she start to yelling or crying. 165 00:10:53,278 --> 00:10:58,325 [Hamas militants speaking foreign language] 166 00:10:59,535 --> 00:11:01,078 - And after two minutes, 167 00:11:01,203 --> 00:11:03,705 we hear a lot of people inside our home, 168 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:06,958 they start to yelling at us to get out from the safe room. 169 00:11:07,083 --> 00:11:08,835 - [Dinesh] Meanwhile, Lishay's neighbors 170 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,087 are being held captive. 171 00:11:10,212 --> 00:11:11,505 - [Hamas Militant] Come with me. 172 00:11:11,630 --> 00:11:12,382 Come with me. - No. 173 00:11:12,507 --> 00:11:13,840 - [Hamas Militant] Talk to her to open the door. 174 00:11:13,965 --> 00:11:15,425 - [Dinesh] The terrorists themselves 175 00:11:15,550 --> 00:11:17,302 livestreamed the video. 176 00:11:17,428 --> 00:11:18,970 [people shouting in foreign language] 177 00:11:19,097 --> 00:11:22,307 - [Dinesh] The neighbor's son is forced to Lishay's home. 178 00:11:22,433 --> 00:11:25,685 - And then, we hear a voice in Hebrew, 179 00:11:25,812 --> 00:11:28,397 "Please open the door because if you don't open the door, 180 00:11:28,522 --> 00:11:30,858 they are going to kill you and they're going to kill me, 181 00:11:30,983 --> 00:11:32,067 so please open the door." 182 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:33,527 - You recognize the voice? 183 00:11:33,652 --> 00:11:35,070 - Yeah, we recognized the voice. 184 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:36,947 We decide to open the door, 185 00:11:37,072 --> 00:11:40,367 and then we see that we have inside our little home, 186 00:11:41,243 --> 00:11:42,828 five monsters. 187 00:11:42,953 --> 00:11:44,747 [intense music continues] 188 00:11:44,872 --> 00:11:47,750 They took us to another home. 189 00:11:47,875 --> 00:11:51,295 And then we sitting over there, two families together. 190 00:11:52,422 --> 00:11:53,838 [explosion blasting] 191 00:11:53,963 --> 00:11:56,592 - [Dinesh] The terrorists killed the teenage boy, 192 00:11:56,717 --> 00:11:58,260 [gunfire popping] 193 00:11:58,385 --> 00:12:00,470 whose name is Tomer Arava. 194 00:12:01,847 --> 00:12:04,142 Then they kidnapped Lishay's husband. 195 00:12:04,267 --> 00:12:05,852 - They just took him. 196 00:12:05,977 --> 00:12:07,143 - And you haven't seen him since? 197 00:12:07,268 --> 00:12:08,562 [somber music] 198 00:12:08,687 --> 00:12:09,647 - No. - No? 199 00:12:10,647 --> 00:12:13,317 [gentle music] 200 00:12:14,193 --> 00:12:16,903 - [Lishay] But we are still waiting. 201 00:12:17,028 --> 00:12:19,657 [baby laughing] 202 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:23,160 - And if she says to you, "Where is my dad? 203 00:12:23,285 --> 00:12:24,578 Where's my father?" 204 00:12:24,703 --> 00:12:27,038 What is your answer to her now? 205 00:12:27,163 --> 00:12:29,167 - [Lishay] Told her that daddy in Gaza. 206 00:12:29,292 --> 00:12:33,545 [Omri speaking in foreign language] 207 00:12:43,055 --> 00:12:45,015 - This is a propaganda video 208 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:49,520 released by Hamas the day we interviewed Lishay. 209 00:12:49,645 --> 00:12:52,773 What do you think is the driving force 210 00:12:52,898 --> 00:12:57,487 behind this kind of barbaric and evil behavior? 211 00:12:57,612 --> 00:12:59,572 - I can't really understand this. 212 00:12:59,697 --> 00:13:03,075 You know, if I don't want to get into the devil 213 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,535 and the monsters' mind. 214 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:09,332 You know, all this was blood, 215 00:13:09,457 --> 00:13:13,252 and there is a body over there, and we saw all the things. 216 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,047 - Things you don't expect to see in your lifetime, right? 217 00:13:17,172 --> 00:13:20,550 - Not me, and, of course, not my children. 218 00:13:20,675 --> 00:13:21,593 [gentle music continues] 219 00:13:21,718 --> 00:13:23,678 The Jewish always say, "Never again." 220 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:27,683 But unfortunately, never again happened in October 7th. 221 00:13:27,808 --> 00:13:31,687 They came here to our kibbutz, to our home. 222 00:13:31,812 --> 00:13:35,107 They burn, they rape, they killed, 223 00:13:35,232 --> 00:13:38,068 they kidnapped people and children. 224 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,280 [tense music] 225 00:13:42,405 --> 00:13:44,992 - [Dinesh] I'm walking along the Gaza border, 226 00:13:45,117 --> 00:13:48,245 which was overrun by terrorists on October 7th. 227 00:13:48,370 --> 00:13:50,455 It's an eerie feeling. 228 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,293 This is a region where there seem to be no solutions, 229 00:13:55,418 --> 00:13:59,382 and there is not even a clear idea of what the problems are. 230 00:13:59,507 --> 00:14:01,217 [explosions blasting] 231 00:14:01,342 --> 00:14:04,762 Israel has been blowing up targets here for two years, 232 00:14:04,887 --> 00:14:06,680 since October 7th. 233 00:14:09,225 --> 00:14:11,935 But the war is bigger than Gaza. 234 00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:13,312 These are rockets 235 00:14:13,437 --> 00:14:15,063 recently fired by Iran, [sirens wailing] 236 00:14:15,188 --> 00:14:17,733 the chief foreign backer of Hamas, 237 00:14:17,858 --> 00:14:19,985 which were a response to Israel 238 00:14:20,110 --> 00:14:23,072 targeting Iranian nuclear facilities, 239 00:14:23,197 --> 00:14:27,785 military sites, scientists, and military leadership. 240 00:14:27,910 --> 00:14:30,997 [tense music continues] 241 00:14:31,122 --> 00:14:32,832 Then the U.S. got involved. 242 00:14:32,957 --> 00:14:34,417 - A short time ago, 243 00:14:34,542 --> 00:14:37,878 the U.S. military carried out massive precision strikes 244 00:14:38,003 --> 00:14:42,967 on the three key nuclear facilities in the Iranian regime. 245 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,097 God bless the Middle East, God bless Israel, 246 00:14:48,222 --> 00:14:50,057 and God bless America. 247 00:14:50,182 --> 00:14:51,225 [intense music] 248 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:52,350 - [Dinesh] For the Jews, 249 00:14:52,475 --> 00:14:53,977 these conflicts have been going on 250 00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:57,313 since the founding of the state of Israel in 1948. 251 00:14:58,690 --> 00:15:01,902 For Iran, it goes back to 1979, 252 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:04,738 when the Ayatollah Khomeini came to power 253 00:15:04,863 --> 00:15:08,992 and radical Islam captured its first major state. 254 00:15:11,037 --> 00:15:14,457 But in some ways, the conflict has deeper roots. 255 00:15:14,582 --> 00:15:17,583 It goes back to the founding of Islam itself, 256 00:15:17,710 --> 00:15:19,753 in the seventh century. 257 00:15:19,878 --> 00:15:24,215 Islam has not lost the force of its original revelation. 258 00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:29,388 The Jews claim to be the original inhabitants of this land, 259 00:15:29,513 --> 00:15:32,307 going back to the time of Abraham. 260 00:15:46,113 --> 00:15:48,948 - [Dinesh] Yet, all of this is highly contested. 261 00:15:49,073 --> 00:15:51,243 [people shouting] Globally, the political left 262 00:15:51,368 --> 00:15:54,120 blames Israel for the conflict and supports 263 00:15:54,245 --> 00:15:55,705 [people shouting] the Palestinian claim 264 00:15:55,830 --> 00:15:59,543 to the land of Israel, from the river to the sea. 265 00:15:59,668 --> 00:16:02,045 - Today we're here to highlight the human cost 266 00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:03,005 of the occupation. 267 00:16:03,130 --> 00:16:06,050 - Occupation of Palestine. 268 00:16:06,175 --> 00:16:07,927 - I mean, what does occupation mean? 269 00:16:08,052 --> 00:16:08,968 Taking people's land, 270 00:16:09,093 --> 00:16:11,388 taking people's livelihood away from them. 271 00:16:11,513 --> 00:16:13,057 - [Dinesh] Most Muslims and others, too, 272 00:16:13,182 --> 00:16:18,145 believe Israel is the colonizer and occupier of stolen land. 273 00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:21,732 There's even a skeptical faction on the political right. 274 00:16:21,857 --> 00:16:23,692 - Where does my support for Israel come from? 275 00:16:23,817 --> 00:16:25,818 Number one, because biblically, 276 00:16:25,943 --> 00:16:27,445 we are commanded to support Israel, 277 00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:29,072 but number two- - We're commanded 278 00:16:29,197 --> 00:16:30,490 as Christians to support the government of Israel? 279 00:16:30,615 --> 00:16:32,200 - We are commanded to support Israel, 280 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:33,327 and we're told- - What does that mean, Israel? 281 00:16:33,452 --> 00:16:34,953 - We're told those who bless Israel will be blessed, but- 282 00:16:35,078 --> 00:16:36,788 - But what? Hold on, define Israel. 283 00:16:36,913 --> 00:16:37,957 - Do you not know what Israel is? 284 00:16:38,082 --> 00:16:39,207 - That's what God is talking about 285 00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:40,250 in Genesis. - The nation of Israel, yes. 286 00:16:40,375 --> 00:16:43,170 - So, is that the current borders, the current leadership? 287 00:16:43,295 --> 00:16:45,047 He's talking about the political entity called Israel? 288 00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:46,507 - He's talking about the nation of Israel. 289 00:16:46,632 --> 00:16:48,925 Yeah, nations exists, and He is discussing a nation. 290 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:50,510 A nation was the people of Israel. 291 00:16:50,635 --> 00:16:51,637 - Is the nation- They're the descendants 292 00:16:51,762 --> 00:16:52,595 of Abram. - that God is referring to 293 00:16:52,722 --> 00:16:54,848 in Genesis, is that the same as the country 294 00:16:54,973 --> 00:16:56,183 run by Benjamin Netanyahu right now? 295 00:16:56,308 --> 00:16:57,058 - [Senator Cruz] Yes. Yes. 296 00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:58,935 [pensive music] 297 00:16:59,060 --> 00:17:00,770 - [Dinesh] So, who are the Jews? 298 00:17:00,895 --> 00:17:02,397 Who are the Palestinians? 299 00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:04,650 And whose land is it, really? 300 00:17:05,650 --> 00:17:08,112 Jerusalem is the holiest place on earth, 301 00:17:08,237 --> 00:17:12,032 a sacred site for three of the world's great religions, 302 00:17:12,157 --> 00:17:15,577 Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. 303 00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:18,205 It's the most disputed piece of real estate 304 00:17:18,330 --> 00:17:19,998 on Planet Earth. 305 00:17:20,123 --> 00:17:23,793 Here, nothing is ever solved or resolved. 306 00:17:25,295 --> 00:17:28,298 What did the scriptures tell us about this place? 307 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:31,677 Are today's conflicts connected 308 00:17:31,802 --> 00:17:34,805 to what the Bible calls the end times? 309 00:17:34,930 --> 00:17:38,725 Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself, 310 00:17:38,850 --> 00:17:41,395 be somehow tied to this place? 311 00:17:42,938 --> 00:17:45,898 And how does America fit into the picture? 312 00:17:46,023 --> 00:17:49,318 [Iranian leadership yelling in foreign language] 313 00:17:49,445 --> 00:17:52,155 - [Dinesh] The Iranian rulers identify America 314 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,865 [people shouting] as the ultimate target, 315 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:55,617 the great Satan. 316 00:17:55,742 --> 00:17:57,828 - They're chanting "Death to America" all around me, 317 00:17:57,953 --> 00:18:01,415 even as I say, "Oh, I'm an American reporting for CNN." 318 00:18:01,540 --> 00:18:02,582 And they were happy to speak to me. 319 00:18:02,707 --> 00:18:07,337 So, those two sort of jarring realities of the chant, 320 00:18:07,462 --> 00:18:11,675 and yet, the friendliness, have existed together. 321 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,887 - [Dinesh] Like her, many Americans don't get it. 322 00:18:15,012 --> 00:18:19,975 What we do know is it's a battle between good and evil. 323 00:18:20,183 --> 00:18:22,768 But who is good and who is evil? 324 00:18:22,895 --> 00:18:27,817 How can good prevail over evil without becoming evil itself? 325 00:18:28,733 --> 00:18:31,945 We need a new way to understand these mysteries. 326 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:36,032 A secret key to unlock the problem and the solution. 327 00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:38,618 [tense music] 328 00:18:38,743 --> 00:18:41,120 [gentle music] 329 00:18:41,247 --> 00:18:43,582 For this, we turn to Jonathan Cahn. 330 00:18:43,707 --> 00:18:48,337 He is a Jew of a unique type, a Jewish follower of Jesus. 331 00:18:50,422 --> 00:18:52,215 He is the founder and leader 332 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:55,718 of the Beth Israel Worship Center in New Jersey. 333 00:18:57,303 --> 00:18:59,263 He's the author of many bestselling books, 334 00:18:59,388 --> 00:19:01,975 including "The Dragon's Prophecy." 335 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:06,563 His book reveals that behind the conflicts we see before us, 336 00:19:06,688 --> 00:19:10,317 there is a cosmic battle raging for the human soul. 337 00:19:11,318 --> 00:19:12,485 - It seems to me, Jonathan, 338 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:14,822 one of the unique aspects of your work 339 00:19:14,947 --> 00:19:17,490 is the way in which you use the Bible 340 00:19:18,325 --> 00:19:21,118 as a kind of interpretive key 341 00:19:21,245 --> 00:19:25,915 to unlock the significance of large current events. 342 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,420 - The Bible gives a premise that God is behind the world. 343 00:19:30,545 --> 00:19:31,922 He operates in the world. 344 00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:34,592 He uses history, He uses world events. 345 00:19:34,717 --> 00:19:38,012 - And we can interpret current events 346 00:19:38,137 --> 00:19:39,805 in the light of what came before- 347 00:19:39,930 --> 00:19:41,138 - Mm-hmm. - But also 348 00:19:41,265 --> 00:19:42,640 in the light of what's coming. 349 00:19:42,765 --> 00:19:46,270 - There's actually a pattern and a purpose and a destiny. 350 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,313 For instance, October 7th. 351 00:19:49,438 --> 00:19:52,150 - Is an event of biblical significance. 352 00:19:52,275 --> 00:19:54,945 - It is. There is so much to it. 353 00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:58,240 When it happened, where it happened, how it happened. 354 00:19:58,365 --> 00:19:59,658 All these things, 355 00:19:59,783 --> 00:20:02,660 there are literally biblical mysteries behind them. 356 00:20:02,785 --> 00:20:04,788 - Let's talk about the Jews, 357 00:20:04,913 --> 00:20:06,915 we know as the ancient Israelites, 358 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,125 but we also know them as the Jewish people 359 00:20:09,250 --> 00:20:11,168 that are in Israel today. 360 00:20:11,295 --> 00:20:12,670 Those are one and the same people, 361 00:20:12,795 --> 00:20:13,963 aren't they? - Yes. 362 00:20:14,088 --> 00:20:15,507 [gentle music] 363 00:20:15,632 --> 00:20:18,177 And the Bible says that the Jewish people, 364 00:20:18,302 --> 00:20:21,638 they're going to be scattered to the ends of the earth. 365 00:20:29,647 --> 00:20:31,857 - They're gonna wander from nation to nation. 366 00:20:31,982 --> 00:20:34,943 They're gonna be persecuted from nation to nation. 367 00:20:35,068 --> 00:20:38,280 In the latter days, God says, "I will gather them back." 368 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:48,540 - [News Announcer] On May 14th, 1948, 369 00:20:48,665 --> 00:20:50,750 the new government headed by David Ben-Gurion, 370 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:52,585 is installed in Tel Aviv. 371 00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:53,670 Thus, for the first time 372 00:20:53,795 --> 00:20:55,505 since the Roman Legion destroyed Jerusalem 373 00:20:55,630 --> 00:20:57,173 in the year 70 A.D., 374 00:20:57,298 --> 00:21:00,052 the Jewish people have a nation of their own. 375 00:21:00,177 --> 00:21:02,345 - As a shepherd gathers his flock, 376 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:04,640 I will bring them back to the land of Israel, 377 00:21:04,765 --> 00:21:07,183 and the land of Israel will again blossom. 378 00:21:07,308 --> 00:21:10,103 - Is there any other people of whom it could be said 379 00:21:10,228 --> 00:21:11,980 that they dispersed? - Totally. 380 00:21:12,105 --> 00:21:15,650 - And yet, they reconverged, not 10 years later, 381 00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:17,152 not even 100 years later. - No. 382 00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:18,195 Thousands. 383 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,822 And on top of it, 384 00:21:19,947 --> 00:21:23,408 their own scriptures foretold it before it happened exactly. 385 00:21:23,533 --> 00:21:25,743 - You make the striking point that 386 00:21:25,868 --> 00:21:29,665 when the Bible talks about the Jews as the chosen people, 387 00:21:29,790 --> 00:21:32,500 it's not as if God did a quick inventory 388 00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:34,127 of all the people around the world and said, 389 00:21:34,252 --> 00:21:35,878 "Oh yeah, I'm gonna choose those guys." 390 00:21:36,003 --> 00:21:37,505 - You know, the Bible does say "chosen," 391 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,590 but God called them into existence. 392 00:21:39,717 --> 00:21:42,760 Jewish existence is a testimony, is a witness, 393 00:21:42,885 --> 00:21:45,055 because they would never exist if it wasn't for God, 394 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:47,723 and they would never still exist if it wasn't for God. 395 00:21:47,848 --> 00:21:50,935 So that's why the Jewish people never fit into the world. 396 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:52,395 Even that is in the Bible. 397 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,898 Israel, a nation that people that dwell apart, 398 00:21:55,023 --> 00:21:57,067 there's something different about them, 399 00:21:57,192 --> 00:21:58,610 and that is because of this. 400 00:21:58,735 --> 00:22:00,653 They're in this world for a purpose. 401 00:22:00,778 --> 00:22:02,030 - And what is that purpose? 402 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:03,698 - To bear witness of God, 403 00:22:03,823 --> 00:22:07,827 but also as a vessel to bring into the world 404 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:10,163 the purposes of God and to fulfill them. 405 00:22:10,288 --> 00:22:13,708 Through them, came the Word of God to the world. 406 00:22:13,833 --> 00:22:17,962 Through them, came the gospel to the world, and Messiah. 407 00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:19,965 - Prophets. - The prophets- 408 00:22:20,090 --> 00:22:22,175 - Yeah, the 10 commandments. - The Psalms, all of it. 409 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:24,552 Yeah, the law, the sense of morality, 410 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:27,513 all came through this little, tiny people. 411 00:22:27,638 --> 00:22:29,682 Yes, that's exactly why they exist. 412 00:22:29,808 --> 00:22:31,267 And that's also why 413 00:22:31,393 --> 00:22:34,312 they are the most persecuted people on earth. 414 00:22:34,437 --> 00:22:36,063 - Now, in no way are you saying 415 00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:38,775 that the Jews are sort of better. 416 00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:42,945 Even the great figures of the Hebrew Scriptures, 417 00:22:43,072 --> 00:22:44,697 they're flawed men, right? - Mm-hmm. 418 00:22:44,823 --> 00:22:48,033 A vessel doesn't mean that this thing is better or worse. 419 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,410 It means it's being used. 420 00:22:49,535 --> 00:22:52,330 And so the Jewish people are not better or worse, 421 00:22:52,455 --> 00:22:54,290 but they are being used. 422 00:22:54,415 --> 00:22:56,835 [intense music] 423 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,088 - [Dinesh] October 7th reveals this ongoing clash 424 00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,633 between Jews on the one side 425 00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:06,803 and the Palestinians on the other. 426 00:23:07,803 --> 00:23:12,517 You expose the way in which this conflict 427 00:23:12,642 --> 00:23:16,605 is a recreation, even a resurrection, 428 00:23:16,730 --> 00:23:19,482 of a more ancient conflict. [people screaming] 429 00:23:19,607 --> 00:23:22,443 - The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation. 430 00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:25,072 So, what if there was gonna be a resurrection 431 00:23:25,197 --> 00:23:28,783 of another people, an enemy people of Israel? 432 00:23:29,952 --> 00:23:32,578 Ancient enemies of Israel were called the Philistines, 433 00:23:32,703 --> 00:23:33,788 or the Philistia. 434 00:23:33,913 --> 00:23:36,875 Goliath was a Philistine. They warred for ages and ages. 435 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,920 [intense music continues] 436 00:23:40,045 --> 00:23:41,045 And they disappeared. 437 00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:44,967 But what if they were brought back? 438 00:23:45,092 --> 00:23:49,762 The word Palestinian literally means the Philistines. 439 00:23:49,888 --> 00:23:54,267 In fact, the way you say Palestinian in Arabic is Filastini, 440 00:23:54,392 --> 00:23:56,603 or the Filastin people. 441 00:23:56,728 --> 00:23:58,522 It's literally a people named after 442 00:23:58,647 --> 00:24:01,315 the ancient enemies of Israel. 443 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,028 The ancient Philistines were headquartered in a region 444 00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:07,072 that was called Philistia in the Bible. 445 00:24:07,197 --> 00:24:09,157 Today, it's called the Gaza Strip. 446 00:24:09,282 --> 00:24:11,618 - I mean, the Bible names the Philistine cities. 447 00:24:11,743 --> 00:24:13,495 One of them is, in fact, Gaza. 448 00:24:21,587 --> 00:24:25,757 - Everything is back to where it was in ancient times. 449 00:24:25,882 --> 00:24:28,302 - Remarkably, the Israelites had many enemies, 450 00:24:28,427 --> 00:24:30,095 the Hittites, the Moabites, 451 00:24:30,220 --> 00:24:32,138 of course, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, 452 00:24:32,263 --> 00:24:33,055 and so on. - Yes. 453 00:24:33,182 --> 00:24:37,477 - But it seems like the Philistines were a persistent, 454 00:24:37,602 --> 00:24:38,812 and maybe in some ways, 455 00:24:38,937 --> 00:24:41,523 the most long-lasting enemy of Israel. 456 00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:44,650 - And the prophets, when it speaks about the Philistines, 457 00:24:44,775 --> 00:24:46,987 it says, "You have this ancient hatred, 458 00:24:47,112 --> 00:24:48,697 this vengeance for Israel." 459 00:24:48,822 --> 00:24:49,907 [warriors shouting] 460 00:24:57,872 --> 00:24:59,707 - That whole hatred has been revived. 461 00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,835 You have a people there, almost, who are set 462 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,963 for the purpose of attacking or delegitimizing Israel. 463 00:25:06,088 --> 00:25:08,090 The same atrocities that the Philistines did 464 00:25:08,217 --> 00:25:09,550 were done on October 7th. 465 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,928 It does go back to the ancient parallels. 466 00:25:12,053 --> 00:25:13,847 [intense music] 467 00:25:13,972 --> 00:25:15,140 The ancient Philistines, 468 00:25:15,265 --> 00:25:17,933 they trained their children to be child soldiers. 469 00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:19,560 When David was talking to Saul, said, 470 00:25:19,685 --> 00:25:20,853 "I'm gonna fight this giant." 471 00:25:20,978 --> 00:25:23,147 Saul says to him, "You know, no, you can't. 472 00:25:23,273 --> 00:25:26,025 This one has been a man of war since his childhood." 473 00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:37,787 - [Cahn] So now you have the same culture developing 474 00:25:37,912 --> 00:25:39,915 among the people called Philistines, 475 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,502 that they are training their children to be soldiers. 476 00:26:12,363 --> 00:26:14,907 - [Dinesh] On October 7th, they took captives. 477 00:26:15,033 --> 00:26:16,743 [people shouting] - [Cahn] Yes. 478 00:26:16,868 --> 00:26:19,997 - [Dinesh] And they brought 'em back to Gaza? 479 00:26:20,122 --> 00:26:21,080 [people shouting] - [Cahn] Yes. 480 00:26:21,205 --> 00:26:23,040 - Does that evoke a biblical memory? 481 00:26:23,165 --> 00:26:23,875 - Yes. 482 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,920 The Bible records that the Philistines would launch attacks 483 00:26:28,045 --> 00:26:30,215 from that land to the Israeli villages 484 00:26:30,340 --> 00:26:32,300 that were kind of a borderlands there 485 00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:34,510 and they would take them back 486 00:26:34,635 --> 00:26:37,347 to Philistia, or the Gaza Strip. 487 00:26:37,472 --> 00:26:39,932 One of the most famous stories of the Bible 488 00:26:40,058 --> 00:26:41,433 is the story of Samson, 489 00:26:41,558 --> 00:26:43,185 and he represents the strength of Israel. 490 00:26:43,312 --> 00:26:44,853 Well, the people of Gaza 491 00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:47,190 try to take down the strength of Israel. 492 00:26:47,315 --> 00:26:48,733 They actually blind him. 493 00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:59,118 - The Israeli Defense Forces said, you know, 494 00:26:59,243 --> 00:27:02,288 October 7th, what happened is the invaders blinded Israel. 495 00:27:02,413 --> 00:27:04,248 - [News Announcer] Dozens of Palestinian commandos 496 00:27:04,373 --> 00:27:06,625 advanced toward the Israeli border. 497 00:27:06,752 --> 00:27:08,712 They blinded surveillance cameras 498 00:27:08,837 --> 00:27:10,922 and Israeli defense systems. [explosions blasting] 499 00:27:11,047 --> 00:27:12,423 They continued using drones 500 00:27:12,548 --> 00:27:14,967 to target telecommunications infrastructure. 501 00:27:15,093 --> 00:27:19,597 The aim was to blind the Israeli army as fast as possible. 502 00:27:19,722 --> 00:27:20,640 [people shouting] 503 00:27:20,765 --> 00:27:22,850 - [Cahn] They take Samson to Gaza. 504 00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:25,770 And so, he's the first, you know, hostage of Gaza, really, 505 00:27:25,895 --> 00:27:27,355 that we know of in the Bible. 506 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,857 Then, it says they made a spectacle of him. 507 00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:32,068 That happened also with October 7th. 508 00:27:32,193 --> 00:27:34,362 [crowd yelling] [intense music] 509 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,582 - It's not an accident 510 00:27:46,708 --> 00:27:50,170 that October 7th was a convergence 511 00:27:50,295 --> 00:27:53,423 of three Hebrew holy days. [gentle music] 512 00:27:53,548 --> 00:27:55,383 It was an exact timing 513 00:27:55,508 --> 00:27:57,302 because it's linked to the calendar of God. 514 00:27:57,427 --> 00:27:59,095 One of the Hebrew holidays on that day 515 00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:00,763 was called Simchat Torah. 516 00:28:00,888 --> 00:28:02,140 Simchat means joy. 517 00:28:02,265 --> 00:28:04,892 On the day of joy, the enemy strikes Israel, 518 00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:06,393 takes away that joy, 519 00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:08,938 makes it from a day of joy to a day of mourning. 520 00:28:09,063 --> 00:28:11,733 But in the camps of the enemies of Israel, 521 00:28:11,858 --> 00:28:15,320 in Gaza, in the West Bank and throughout the Islamic world, 522 00:28:15,445 --> 00:28:17,447 they have celebrations. 523 00:28:17,572 --> 00:28:19,448 It was the devil's holiday. 524 00:28:21,033 --> 00:28:23,953 The enemy takes the things of God and he desecrates them. 525 00:28:24,078 --> 00:28:26,122 - [Chant Leader] From the river to the sea... 526 00:28:26,247 --> 00:28:28,417 - [Crowd] Palestine will be free! 527 00:28:28,542 --> 00:28:30,377 - [Chant Leader] From the river to the sea... 528 00:28:30,502 --> 00:28:32,670 - [Crowd] Palestine will be free! 529 00:28:32,795 --> 00:28:34,797 - [Chant Leader] From the river to the sea... 530 00:28:34,922 --> 00:28:35,757 [gentle music] - When they say 531 00:28:35,882 --> 00:28:37,050 from the river to the sea, 532 00:28:37,175 --> 00:28:38,677 they're speaking about the destruction of Israel, 533 00:28:38,802 --> 00:28:40,262 'cause those are the borders of Israel, 534 00:28:40,387 --> 00:28:42,722 but it comes from thousands of years ago 535 00:28:42,847 --> 00:28:45,683 when God gave Abraham and his descendants, 536 00:28:45,808 --> 00:28:47,602 He promised them the land, 537 00:28:47,727 --> 00:28:51,397 He said, "I've given it to you from the river to the sea." 538 00:28:52,523 --> 00:28:54,858 So now the enemy takes God's word, 539 00:28:54,983 --> 00:28:58,070 which is a promise to Israel, inverts it to attack Israel, 540 00:28:58,195 --> 00:29:00,407 and it becomes a chant against Israel. 541 00:29:00,532 --> 00:29:02,700 - They think that they are the tools of God. 542 00:29:02,825 --> 00:29:03,535 - Yes. 543 00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:04,702 - And that's why they keep saying, 544 00:29:04,827 --> 00:29:07,288 "We're doing this in the name of Allah." 545 00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:11,667 I thought, how could someone be so deceived? 546 00:29:11,793 --> 00:29:14,170 And then it hit me: Satan is a deceiver. 547 00:29:14,295 --> 00:29:16,297 In fact, look at his name, right, Lucifer. 548 00:29:16,422 --> 00:29:18,090 What does his name mean? Light. 549 00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:21,427 So the Prince of Darkness camouflages himself 550 00:29:21,552 --> 00:29:23,220 as a prince of light. 551 00:29:23,345 --> 00:29:24,055 - [Cahn] Yes. 552 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:26,975 - Evil never shows itself explicitly as evil. 553 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,602 It never declares its intentions, 554 00:29:29,727 --> 00:29:31,645 it always masquerades as good, doesn't it? 555 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:33,607 - That's the nature of evil. 556 00:29:33,732 --> 00:29:35,275 [bright music] 557 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,903 - [Dinesh] The devil is the inverter of God. 558 00:29:39,028 --> 00:29:39,987 You call him 559 00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:41,655 the inverted angel? - Yes. Yes. 560 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:43,575 Everything is in reverse. 561 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:46,870 - The battles that we see are the surface 562 00:29:46,995 --> 00:29:49,705 of a great spiritual battle. 563 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:50,540 - Yes. 564 00:29:50,665 --> 00:29:52,875 - That is the primordial battle 565 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,337 between God and Satan, 566 00:29:55,462 --> 00:29:57,922 the battle that goes back to the very beginning. 567 00:29:58,047 --> 00:29:59,548 - It all goes back to that. 568 00:30:07,807 --> 00:30:09,475 - There's evil in the world, 569 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,062 and the force of evil in Hebrew is called Shaitan, 570 00:30:12,187 --> 00:30:14,313 means the opposer, the adversary. 571 00:30:14,438 --> 00:30:16,107 We take that into English as Satan, 572 00:30:16,232 --> 00:30:18,233 and in Greek it was called Diabolos, 573 00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:19,860 the one who casts against you. 574 00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:23,238 Well, it becomes the word diabolical and the word devil. 575 00:30:23,363 --> 00:30:25,658 [gentle music] 576 00:30:25,783 --> 00:30:29,162 If the Jewish people, if their existence on earth, 577 00:30:29,287 --> 00:30:31,080 bears witness that God is real, 578 00:30:31,205 --> 00:30:34,708 their history bears witness also that the devil is real. 579 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,710 He opposes the plans of God. 580 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:39,922 What are you gonna have? You're gonna have a war. 581 00:30:40,047 --> 00:30:42,842 Ezekiel foretold a war. 582 00:30:42,967 --> 00:30:44,343 And he says it'll happen when Israel 583 00:30:44,468 --> 00:30:46,053 has gathered back from the nations. 584 00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:47,805 He talks about an alliance of nations 585 00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:49,598 that will invade the land. 586 00:30:49,723 --> 00:30:52,852 Well, one of them is Sudan. He calls it Cush. 587 00:30:52,977 --> 00:30:57,023 The amazing thing is that Sudan had a part in October 7th. 588 00:30:57,148 --> 00:30:58,775 Another one is called Phut, 589 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,943 which today is Libya, North Africa. 590 00:31:01,068 --> 00:31:04,197 Libya also was behind October 7th. 591 00:31:04,322 --> 00:31:05,490 Asia Minor and Turkey. 592 00:31:05,615 --> 00:31:10,202 Turkey also had a big part in October 7th, in funding it, 593 00:31:10,328 --> 00:31:13,957 and the other one he mentions is Paros, which is Iran, 594 00:31:14,082 --> 00:31:15,667 which is the key of all this. 595 00:31:15,792 --> 00:31:17,043 The Iranian revolution 596 00:31:17,168 --> 00:31:19,712 actually moved us into Bible prophecy, 597 00:31:19,837 --> 00:31:23,925 because now Iran is the archenemy of Israel. 598 00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:27,095 All these nations that Ezekiel actually mentions 599 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:29,138 tells us we are aligning up 600 00:31:29,263 --> 00:31:31,098 specifically with Bible prophecy. 601 00:31:31,223 --> 00:31:32,392 It is racing forward. 602 00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:34,477 - And the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse 603 00:31:34,602 --> 00:31:36,437 depicted in the book of Revelation. 604 00:31:36,562 --> 00:31:40,107 You speak about the colors of the apocalypse. 605 00:31:40,232 --> 00:31:41,067 [horse hooves beating] - The first horse, 606 00:31:41,192 --> 00:31:44,237 it says was white, which linked to conquest. 607 00:31:44,362 --> 00:31:45,530 The second is red, 608 00:31:45,655 --> 00:31:46,530 linked to war. [horse whinnies] 609 00:31:46,655 --> 00:31:48,198 The third one is black, 610 00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:49,783 which represents famine. [somber music] 611 00:31:49,908 --> 00:31:51,160 [horse whinnies] And the last one, 612 00:31:51,285 --> 00:31:53,203 the fourth one is green, or pale green, 613 00:31:53,328 --> 00:31:54,955 which represents death. 614 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,623 [horses wailing] The amazing thing is 615 00:31:56,748 --> 00:31:58,042 the colors of the apocalypse 616 00:31:58,167 --> 00:32:01,878 have actually been manifesting in our world as never before, 617 00:32:02,005 --> 00:32:05,257 because the flag of Palestine is white for the white horse, 618 00:32:05,383 --> 00:32:07,843 red for the red horse, black for the black horse, 619 00:32:07,968 --> 00:32:09,553 and green for the green horse, 620 00:32:09,678 --> 00:32:11,638 the colors of the apocalypse. 621 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:14,058 - [Dinesh] Now let's talk about the dragon. 622 00:32:25,362 --> 00:32:27,697 - The Bible speaks about this whole war 623 00:32:27,822 --> 00:32:30,240 as a dragon, representing the enemy, 624 00:32:30,367 --> 00:32:32,993 attacking a woman, representing Israel. 625 00:32:33,118 --> 00:32:35,037 - But you also have a child. 626 00:32:35,162 --> 00:32:36,497 It strikes me that's 627 00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:37,498 the Messiah. - Yeah. 628 00:32:37,623 --> 00:32:38,667 - It's absolutely. 629 00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:41,210 It says a child, who then is going to rule the world 630 00:32:41,335 --> 00:32:42,712 and who is caught up in heaven, 631 00:32:42,837 --> 00:32:44,463 so it clearly is Messiah. 632 00:32:44,588 --> 00:32:48,092 The dragon in the vision wants to destroy that child. 633 00:32:48,217 --> 00:32:51,012 When the dragon cannot destroy the child, 634 00:32:51,137 --> 00:32:53,765 the dragon turns his wrath against the woman. 635 00:32:53,890 --> 00:32:55,223 [gentle music continues] 636 00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:58,687 - [Dinesh] To me, this evokes the garden of Eden. 637 00:32:58,812 --> 00:33:01,230 Satan cannot take any direct revenge on God. 638 00:33:01,355 --> 00:33:02,940 God is stronger than Satan, 639 00:33:03,065 --> 00:33:07,153 so Satan targets the beloved creation of God, namely man. 640 00:33:07,278 --> 00:33:10,782 - Yes, as God's purposes were focused through Israel, 641 00:33:10,907 --> 00:33:13,993 so the enemy's hatred is focused on the same thing. 642 00:33:14,118 --> 00:33:15,787 It's exactly what we'd expect. 643 00:33:15,912 --> 00:33:17,747 - [Dinesh] And the dragon, you say, 644 00:33:17,872 --> 00:33:20,958 is the original antisemite? - Yes. 645 00:33:21,083 --> 00:33:25,253 - The dragon is conducting through antisemitism, 646 00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:27,132 his war against God himself. 647 00:33:27,257 --> 00:33:28,048 - Yes. 648 00:33:39,268 --> 00:33:41,353 - Hamas, they don't call it October 7th. 649 00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:43,647 They call it Operation Toofan. 650 00:33:43,773 --> 00:33:45,858 Toofan means The Flood. 651 00:33:45,983 --> 00:33:49,445 What we witnessed that day, that was the dragon's flood. 652 00:33:53,992 --> 00:33:56,160 - The name Hamas 653 00:33:56,285 --> 00:33:58,703 has a biblical significance. 654 00:33:58,830 --> 00:34:01,248 - Yeah, Hamas is a strange word. It's an Arabic word. 655 00:34:01,373 --> 00:34:03,752 At the same moment, it's an ancient Hebrew word. 656 00:34:03,877 --> 00:34:05,587 In Arabic, it's an acronym 657 00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:07,672 for the Islamic Resistance Movement. 658 00:34:07,797 --> 00:34:10,800 Also in Arabic, it means fervor, zeal, passion. 659 00:34:10,925 --> 00:34:12,510 In ancient Hebrew, 660 00:34:12,635 --> 00:34:17,515 Hamas means evil, violence, and destruction. 661 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,850 And it actually appears in the Bible. 662 00:34:19,975 --> 00:34:21,768 You'll have a scripture that says, 663 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:25,815 "Lord, save me from the men of Hamas. 664 00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:30,068 Hamas dwells in the dark places of the earth. 665 00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:32,280 Rid Hamas from the land." 666 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,367 - [Narrator] "And the earth was filled with violence." 667 00:34:36,492 --> 00:34:37,702 Genesis 6:11. 668 00:34:37,827 --> 00:34:39,703 [gentle music continues] 669 00:34:39,828 --> 00:34:42,998 - So it's all, again, part of an ancient mystery. 670 00:34:43,123 --> 00:34:46,585 - October 7th, the people doing the atrocities, 671 00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:48,378 filmed the atrocities. [tense music] 672 00:34:48,503 --> 00:34:50,213 And not only that, but broadcast 'em, 673 00:34:50,338 --> 00:34:51,507 [people shouting] which is to say that they 674 00:34:51,632 --> 00:34:53,133 were proud of them, [people whistling] 675 00:34:53,258 --> 00:34:55,678 and they met with a joyous reception. 676 00:34:55,803 --> 00:34:59,890 [horn honking] [crowd shouting] 677 00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:02,643 [intense music] 678 00:35:02,768 --> 00:35:07,440 Even the Nazis, who did horrible things, tried to hide them. 679 00:35:07,565 --> 00:35:09,233 The death camps, for example, 680 00:35:09,358 --> 00:35:10,860 are by and large, not in Germany, 681 00:35:10,985 --> 00:35:12,237 they are in occupied Poland. 682 00:35:12,362 --> 00:35:13,737 - [Cahn] The Nazis were coming up 683 00:35:13,863 --> 00:35:17,283 in a, quote, Christian culture, 684 00:35:17,408 --> 00:35:19,660 so they knew they would be condemned. 685 00:35:19,785 --> 00:35:22,288 This is gonna sound kind of crazy, but it's true. 686 00:35:22,413 --> 00:35:24,790 Adolf Hitler had a part in October 7th. 687 00:35:24,915 --> 00:35:25,625 - How so? 688 00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:28,418 - The War of the Dragon is over ages. 689 00:35:28,543 --> 00:35:30,588 And so he raises up one vessel. 690 00:35:30,713 --> 00:35:33,340 They go down, take the next one, just like a relay race. 691 00:35:33,465 --> 00:35:36,302 And so we'd expect to see some kind of passing of the torch. 692 00:35:36,427 --> 00:35:38,930 There was a guy named the Mufti of Jerusalem. 693 00:35:39,055 --> 00:35:41,557 Hated the Jewish people. [bright music] 694 00:35:41,682 --> 00:35:43,433 - [News Announcer] Unrest in Palestine. 695 00:35:43,558 --> 00:35:45,227 Suspecting that the Higher Committee 696 00:35:45,352 --> 00:35:47,355 had incited Arab leaders to start a holy war 697 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,688 against the British government. 698 00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:50,273 The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, 699 00:35:50,398 --> 00:35:53,318 head of the Muslim Supreme Council, was deprived of office. 700 00:35:53,443 --> 00:35:56,155 - He fled and he ends up in Germany. 701 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,740 He meets with Adolf Hitler. 702 00:35:57,865 --> 00:36:00,283 He wants Hitler to bring the Holocaust to the Middle East. 703 00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:02,620 So Hitler says he will, when the time is right. 704 00:36:02,745 --> 00:36:03,828 After the war, 705 00:36:03,955 --> 00:36:06,457 the mufti is going to be put on trial at Nuremberg. 706 00:36:06,582 --> 00:36:08,708 But he escapes, goes to Egypt. 707 00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:10,335 He's hailed as a hero. 708 00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:11,878 He becomes the one who's known 709 00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:14,882 as the Father of Palestinian Nationalism. 710 00:36:15,007 --> 00:36:18,760 Here, you have a direct link from Berlin to Gaza. 711 00:36:18,887 --> 00:36:20,763 He finds an Egyptian teenager, 712 00:36:20,888 --> 00:36:22,848 takes him under his wing, mentors him, 713 00:36:22,973 --> 00:36:24,892 trains him, disciples him. 714 00:36:25,017 --> 00:36:28,270 The Egyptian teenager's name is Yasser Arafat. 715 00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:30,438 Yasser Arafat becomes the leader 716 00:36:30,565 --> 00:36:31,857 of the Palestinian movement. 717 00:36:31,982 --> 00:36:33,192 [Hitler shouting in German] 718 00:36:33,317 --> 00:36:36,737 - Hitler supported and sponsored and mentored 719 00:36:36,862 --> 00:36:38,363 the Muslim Brotherhood. 720 00:36:38,488 --> 00:36:40,532 The Muslim Brotherhood gave birth to Hamas. 721 00:36:40,658 --> 00:36:41,783 [group shouting] 722 00:36:41,908 --> 00:36:44,620 - So this is Adolf Hitler's book 723 00:36:44,745 --> 00:36:46,747 translated to Arabic, "Mein Kampf." 724 00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:47,582 This book 725 00:36:47,707 --> 00:36:48,415 [soldier speaks foreign language] 726 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,418 was found just a few days ago in northern Gaza, 727 00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:54,005 in a children's living room. 728 00:36:54,130 --> 00:36:56,090 It's the book that led to the Holocaust 729 00:36:56,215 --> 00:36:58,175 and the book that led to World War II. 730 00:36:59,843 --> 00:37:02,430 [gentle music] 731 00:37:05,892 --> 00:37:07,643 - [Dinesh] Right now, in Israel, 732 00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:11,438 you have the most important structure in Jerusalem, 733 00:37:11,563 --> 00:37:14,150 in Israel, perhaps in the world, 734 00:37:14,275 --> 00:37:16,652 and that is the Temple Mount. 735 00:37:16,777 --> 00:37:20,907 At the very top of the Temple Mount sits a mosque, 736 00:37:21,865 --> 00:37:24,827 a great conquest by the dragon. 737 00:37:26,037 --> 00:37:29,290 - It's really the ground zero of end time prophecy. 738 00:37:29,415 --> 00:37:31,167 It's called the Temple Mount for the reason 739 00:37:31,292 --> 00:37:33,627 that in the temple is to be rebuilt there, 740 00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:35,545 that mountain shall be lifted up in the end times, 741 00:37:35,672 --> 00:37:36,880 all nations will come to it. 742 00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:38,923 Messiah will rule from that mountain. 743 00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:40,927 The Kingdom of God is linked to that mountain. 744 00:37:41,052 --> 00:37:42,512 So what is the enemy gonna do? 745 00:37:42,637 --> 00:37:44,305 In the Prophets, the enemy says, 746 00:37:44,430 --> 00:37:45,890 "I will sit on that mountain." 747 00:37:46,807 --> 00:37:49,768 - [Dinesh] This then is the real colonialism. 748 00:37:49,893 --> 00:37:53,688 Islam has colonized and occupied the holiest site 749 00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:56,358 in Judaism and Christianity. 750 00:37:56,483 --> 00:37:59,653 - That temple represented the throne of God on earth. 751 00:37:59,778 --> 00:38:02,280 So, he's gonna try to take the throne. 752 00:38:02,407 --> 00:38:03,657 And you have the Eastern Gate. 753 00:38:03,782 --> 00:38:06,118 The Bible links the Eastern Gate to Messiah coming. 754 00:38:06,243 --> 00:38:08,620 But what happened with the Eastern Gate of the Temple Mount? 755 00:38:08,745 --> 00:38:11,665 The Muslims blocked it up so nobody could come through. 756 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:14,293 [laughs] Like, we're gonna stop the purpose of God. 757 00:38:15,753 --> 00:38:19,840 Behind October 7th was actually the Temple Mount. 758 00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:21,383 - What is that connection? 759 00:38:21,508 --> 00:38:22,968 - Months before October 7th, 760 00:38:23,093 --> 00:38:25,303 there was an intention that there were Jewish worshipers 761 00:38:25,428 --> 00:38:27,097 who wanted to go on the Mount 762 00:38:27,222 --> 00:38:29,767 and celebrate Passover on the mountain, 763 00:38:29,892 --> 00:38:31,560 which is where you're supposed to celebrate it, 764 00:38:31,685 --> 00:38:32,437 with a lamb. [intense music] 765 00:38:32,562 --> 00:38:33,728 All hell broke loose. 766 00:38:33,853 --> 00:38:38,233 [crowd shouting in foreign language] 767 00:38:41,945 --> 00:38:44,073 After October 7th, Hamas issued a statement. 768 00:38:44,198 --> 00:38:46,450 They said it was because you, Israel, 769 00:38:46,575 --> 00:38:49,245 desecrated our holy place. 770 00:38:50,245 --> 00:38:52,373 And in one of those things it said, 771 00:38:52,498 --> 00:38:54,750 because of the red heifers. 772 00:38:54,875 --> 00:38:58,212 - So the Bible speaks about in times of Moses and Aaron, 773 00:38:58,337 --> 00:39:01,882 red heifers being part of the ritualistic sacrifice. 774 00:39:02,007 --> 00:39:04,885 Red heifers in the temple [tense music] 775 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:08,430 would be a pretty telltale sign of the last days. 776 00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:10,098 - Yeah, the red heifers. 777 00:39:10,223 --> 00:39:11,642 They haven't existed, but all of a sudden, 778 00:39:11,767 --> 00:39:13,768 they found about five of them. 779 00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:15,562 - [News Announcer] These are the red heifers that landed 780 00:39:15,687 --> 00:39:17,773 at Israel's Ben-Gurion airport. 781 00:39:17,898 --> 00:39:20,192 Rabbis believe the ashes of a red heifer 782 00:39:20,317 --> 00:39:22,570 are necessary for purified priests 783 00:39:22,695 --> 00:39:24,280 to serve in a future temple. 784 00:39:24,405 --> 00:39:28,575 - The dragon went crazy, because he knows what this means. 785 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,787 And the answer was October 7th. 786 00:39:30,912 --> 00:39:33,288 So, we are watching again end-time prophecy. 787 00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,292 The Bible speaks of an end-time state, 788 00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:39,503 a one-world form of culture or civilization 789 00:39:39,628 --> 00:39:41,380 that is gonna be anti-Christian 790 00:39:41,505 --> 00:39:44,217 and anti-Jewish, anti-Israel. 791 00:39:44,342 --> 00:39:47,803 And the Bible also speaks of a figure called the Antichrist, 792 00:39:47,928 --> 00:39:48,928 or the beast. 793 00:39:49,053 --> 00:39:51,265 - And you're saying that Christ came into the world 794 00:39:51,390 --> 00:39:53,433 2,000 years ago. 795 00:39:53,558 --> 00:39:55,393 The Antichrist is yet to come. 796 00:39:55,518 --> 00:39:57,938 - The spirit of the Antichrist comes first 797 00:39:58,063 --> 00:39:59,690 and leads to his coming. 798 00:39:59,815 --> 00:40:02,485 So already in the world, you can see the spirit of this, 799 00:40:02,610 --> 00:40:04,237 the hatred for the Jewish people. 800 00:40:04,362 --> 00:40:06,155 People will be without natural affection, 801 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,490 it says in the Bible. 802 00:40:07,615 --> 00:40:10,827 Well, it's moving from say, natural to unnatural. 803 00:40:10,952 --> 00:40:13,245 And so, it's a war against the ways of God, 804 00:40:13,370 --> 00:40:15,080 but also the creation of God. 805 00:40:15,205 --> 00:40:18,917 A war against manhood, against womanhood, against marriage, 806 00:40:19,042 --> 00:40:21,045 against family, against life, 807 00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:23,755 against childhood, against reality. 808 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,050 And we are watching all of it come at the same time. 809 00:40:28,635 --> 00:40:30,805 - We've been talking about the Bible 810 00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:33,640 as an interpretive key to world events. 811 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,352 But how do we know we can trust the Bible 812 00:40:36,477 --> 00:40:39,522 as a reliable source of truth? 813 00:40:39,647 --> 00:40:40,982 [bright music] Eric Metaxas 814 00:40:41,107 --> 00:40:42,775 is a scholar and commentator 815 00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:46,237 who has studied the topic of biblical archeology 816 00:40:46,362 --> 00:40:49,907 and written a book about it, "Is Atheism Dead?" 817 00:40:51,117 --> 00:40:52,910 Eric, for centuries, 818 00:40:53,035 --> 00:40:56,372 the Bible was seen by many people 819 00:40:56,497 --> 00:40:58,790 as something that you took on faith, 820 00:40:58,915 --> 00:41:00,542 but particularly for skeptics, 821 00:41:00,667 --> 00:41:02,168 the characters of the Bible 822 00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:05,755 were seen as mythic figures, 823 00:41:05,882 --> 00:41:08,467 maybe similar to the figures of Greek mythology. 824 00:41:08,592 --> 00:41:10,260 - But it's only really since the Enlightenment 825 00:41:10,385 --> 00:41:12,888 that this idea has come into being that, 826 00:41:13,013 --> 00:41:16,517 oh, yeah, King David, he's a mythical king like King Arthur. 827 00:41:16,642 --> 00:41:20,687 In the last century and a half, that idea began to unravel. 828 00:41:20,812 --> 00:41:23,982 Just the archeological evidence for the Bible 829 00:41:24,107 --> 00:41:26,485 as a historical document 830 00:41:26,610 --> 00:41:29,153 has become genuinely overwhelming. 831 00:41:30,072 --> 00:41:32,533 There's example after example after example. 832 00:41:32,658 --> 00:41:34,827 It only moves in one direction. 833 00:41:34,952 --> 00:41:36,537 It never happens that somebody 834 00:41:36,662 --> 00:41:38,038 discovers something from archeology, 835 00:41:38,163 --> 00:41:39,665 we see that the Bible is wrong. 836 00:41:39,790 --> 00:41:40,707 Just the opposite. 837 00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:43,335 [bright music continues] 838 00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:45,712 - When you go back to the Old Testament, 839 00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:48,465 we're talking about 1,000, 840 00:41:48,590 --> 00:41:51,802 1,200 years before Christ. - Mm-hmm. 841 00:41:51,927 --> 00:41:53,303 - One would expect that a lot of that 842 00:41:53,428 --> 00:41:55,222 has been lost in the mist of time. 843 00:41:55,347 --> 00:41:56,932 For example, the ancient enemies of Israel. 844 00:41:57,057 --> 00:41:58,892 - Right. - You have the Canaanites, 845 00:41:59,017 --> 00:42:00,643 the Hittites, the Moabites. - Yeah. Yeah. 846 00:42:00,768 --> 00:42:02,730 - 'Cause I mean, we've heard of the Assyrians. 847 00:42:02,855 --> 00:42:03,563 - Right. - We've heard 848 00:42:03,688 --> 00:42:04,398 of the Babylonians. - Yeah. 849 00:42:04,523 --> 00:42:06,025 But whoever heard of the Hittites? 850 00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:07,985 - No one believed the Hittites existed. 851 00:42:08,110 --> 00:42:10,778 But then evidence came out, more and more and more, 852 00:42:10,905 --> 00:42:13,948 and over many decades, they pieced it all together, 853 00:42:14,073 --> 00:42:16,910 and they thought, "Oh, the Hittite Empire." 854 00:42:17,035 --> 00:42:18,287 [bright music continues] 855 00:42:18,412 --> 00:42:19,203 [water splashing] 856 00:42:19,330 --> 00:42:20,080 - Let's talk about some 857 00:42:20,205 --> 00:42:22,540 of the remarkable findings [people chattering faintly] 858 00:42:22,667 --> 00:42:24,668 that validate the New Testament. 859 00:42:30,007 --> 00:42:34,262 Pontius Pilate is a figure who does not appear 860 00:42:34,387 --> 00:42:37,305 in any historical document, outside of the Bible. 861 00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:38,307 He was in the Bible- - Right. Right. 862 00:42:38,432 --> 00:42:39,267 - But he was only 863 00:42:39,392 --> 00:42:40,100 in the Bible. - Right. 864 00:42:40,225 --> 00:42:43,312 - [Dinesh] And then people start digging in Caesarea, 865 00:42:43,437 --> 00:42:44,813 in northern Israel. 866 00:42:44,938 --> 00:42:46,857 - [News Announcer] Here, in 1961, 867 00:42:46,982 --> 00:42:49,067 [gentle music] archeologists discovered proof 868 00:42:49,192 --> 00:42:50,860 of Pilate's existence. [group chattering faintly] 869 00:42:50,987 --> 00:42:54,698 - You wouldn't really sort of think that at this spot, 870 00:42:54,823 --> 00:42:57,910 under this wooden stack, [wood thumping] 871 00:42:58,035 --> 00:42:59,412 this inscription was found. 872 00:42:59,537 --> 00:43:02,873 A Latin inscription mentioning Pontius Pilate. 873 00:43:02,998 --> 00:43:05,875 But this was one of those pivotal moments 874 00:43:06,002 --> 00:43:08,337 which changes everything, because suddenly, 875 00:43:08,462 --> 00:43:11,965 Pontius Pilate comes out of this written inscription. 876 00:43:12,090 --> 00:43:15,010 It's not just this figure in the Gospels. 877 00:43:15,135 --> 00:43:18,763 - Now, anybody who took the Bible seriously was not shocked. 878 00:43:18,888 --> 00:43:20,765 But a lot of people who don't take 879 00:43:20,890 --> 00:43:22,768 [laughs] the Bible seriously, they were shocked. 880 00:43:22,893 --> 00:43:24,520 They were making a water park, 881 00:43:24,645 --> 00:43:26,688 so they're excavating, and then, oh, 882 00:43:26,813 --> 00:43:30,150 they come upon a bunch of these stone ossuaries. 883 00:43:30,275 --> 00:43:32,360 One of them was particularly ornate. 884 00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:35,072 And it was the tradition of the first century 885 00:43:35,197 --> 00:43:38,117 to put the bones of the deceased in an ossuary. 886 00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:40,285 And they look at it inside, 887 00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:43,413 they examine the bones of about a 60-year-old man, 888 00:43:43,538 --> 00:43:48,502 and the name on it, "Caiaphas," the high priest, 889 00:43:48,627 --> 00:43:52,088 dated exactly to the time Caiaphas would have lived. 890 00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:55,050 Caiaphas is in the New Testament, and now we have his bones, 891 00:43:55,175 --> 00:43:57,887 not just the ossuary, but the bones themselves. 892 00:43:58,012 --> 00:43:59,680 It doesn't end. 893 00:43:59,805 --> 00:44:00,638 - Isn't it ironic- 894 00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:02,098 - Yeah. - That as the world 895 00:44:02,223 --> 00:44:02,933 has become- 896 00:44:03,058 --> 00:44:04,727 - Yeah. - More and more secular, 897 00:44:04,852 --> 00:44:06,645 do you think that it's not accidental 898 00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:08,355 [bright music] that God has chosen now 899 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,648 to speak back through the stones? 900 00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:13,860 - If we're approaching, you know the end of time, 901 00:44:13,985 --> 00:44:18,823 God will reveal himself more and more dramatically. 902 00:44:18,948 --> 00:44:20,908 The evidence has piled up to a point 903 00:44:21,035 --> 00:44:23,578 that I think the only way 904 00:44:23,703 --> 00:44:25,997 not to deal with it is to look away. 905 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,750 They discovered the home 906 00:44:28,875 --> 00:44:32,922 of Jesus, Mary and Joseph in Nazareth. 907 00:44:33,047 --> 00:44:34,632 Almost no one knows that. 908 00:44:34,757 --> 00:44:36,883 Practically, the greatest thing you could discover, 909 00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:40,303 the childhood home of Jesus! 910 00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:43,848 And then, because of the milieu in which you move 911 00:44:43,973 --> 00:44:46,518 as an archeologist, you say, "Well, this is embarrassing. 912 00:44:46,643 --> 00:44:50,355 Can I talk about it in a way that sort of buries the lead?" 913 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,857 [Dinesh laughs] And that is 914 00:44:51,982 --> 00:44:53,483 exactly what happened. 915 00:44:53,608 --> 00:44:56,278 The whole excavation really started in 1880 916 00:44:56,403 --> 00:44:58,697 when some French nuns said, we wanna go to Nazareth, 917 00:44:58,822 --> 00:45:00,782 the home of Jesus, and we wanna build a convent. 918 00:45:00,907 --> 00:45:02,827 They start digging to build a convent. 919 00:45:02,952 --> 00:45:04,953 They find this ancient cistern, 920 00:45:05,078 --> 00:45:07,288 and they realize, "Oh, there's something here." 921 00:45:07,413 --> 00:45:10,333 So this is the headline that some women 922 00:45:10,458 --> 00:45:11,543 were doing some archeology. 923 00:45:11,668 --> 00:45:14,128 Not that these women who were nuns, 924 00:45:14,253 --> 00:45:17,298 who gave their whole lives over to serving Jesus, 925 00:45:17,423 --> 00:45:19,258 had discovered the home of Jesus. 926 00:45:19,383 --> 00:45:21,303 But it was about the fact that they were women. 927 00:45:21,428 --> 00:45:23,263 Those are the times in which we live. 928 00:45:23,388 --> 00:45:25,557 [bright music continues] 929 00:45:25,682 --> 00:45:27,475 - Biblical history is based on the idea 930 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:28,893 that history has a plot. 931 00:45:29,018 --> 00:45:29,853 - Right. 932 00:45:29,978 --> 00:45:31,772 - There's a beginning, there's a middle, 933 00:45:31,897 --> 00:45:33,190 and there's an end. - Right. 934 00:45:33,315 --> 00:45:34,983 - One of the things that Cahn says 935 00:45:35,108 --> 00:45:38,903 is that as the plot reaches its climax, 936 00:45:39,028 --> 00:45:40,780 God and the devil 937 00:45:40,905 --> 00:45:45,243 would begin to make themselves more manifest. 938 00:45:45,368 --> 00:45:47,370 - It makes sense that 939 00:45:47,495 --> 00:45:50,915 evil would become more palpably, explicitly evil. 940 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,793 We're seeing that now. 941 00:45:52,918 --> 00:45:55,420 If evidence is piling up more and more 942 00:45:55,545 --> 00:45:59,340 for the existence of God, for the historicity of the Bible, 943 00:45:59,467 --> 00:46:01,385 if you are adamantly against it, 944 00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:05,555 you have to rail against it more loudly or violently. 945 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,727 That's part of what I think this grand narrative is, 946 00:46:09,852 --> 00:46:12,813 which is the exposure of evil. 947 00:46:12,938 --> 00:46:14,523 People have nowhere to hide, 948 00:46:14,648 --> 00:46:16,317 and so the masks are coming off. 949 00:46:17,317 --> 00:46:18,527 - I wanted to see [bright music] 950 00:46:18,652 --> 00:46:22,447 these discoveries of biblical archeology firsthand. 951 00:46:22,572 --> 00:46:25,700 I started in the place where Israel itself started, 952 00:46:25,825 --> 00:46:29,497 Shiloh, in the region of Judea and Samaria. 953 00:46:29,622 --> 00:46:31,748 Some call it the West Bank. 954 00:46:31,873 --> 00:46:34,375 It's where the ancient Israelites came 955 00:46:34,502 --> 00:46:36,545 when they entered the Promised Land. 956 00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:40,340 Eliana Passentin is the International Director 957 00:46:40,465 --> 00:46:44,177 of the Regional Council for Judea and Samaria. 958 00:46:44,302 --> 00:46:47,305 And you live up at the top of the hill, 959 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:51,058 and you can see from the river to the sea. 960 00:46:51,185 --> 00:46:52,227 - I wake up in the morning, 961 00:46:52,352 --> 00:46:55,730 first thing, and I can see Jordan, so that's the river. 962 00:46:55,855 --> 00:46:57,648 And then the afternoon, when the sun is setting, 963 00:46:57,773 --> 00:46:59,735 I have a beautiful view of the Mediterranean. 964 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,905 From the river to the sea is the entire state of Israel. 965 00:47:03,030 --> 00:47:07,283 Shiloh is Israel's first capital city before Jerusalem. 966 00:47:07,408 --> 00:47:10,078 - [Dinesh] So the ancient Israelites 967 00:47:10,203 --> 00:47:11,788 crossed the desert, [gentle vocalizing music] 968 00:47:11,913 --> 00:47:13,748 and they came to the Promised Land, 969 00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:14,958 but they didn't go to Jerusalem. 970 00:47:15,083 --> 00:47:17,460 - Joshua brings the children of Israel to Shiloh, 971 00:47:17,585 --> 00:47:19,547 establishes the first capital city, 972 00:47:19,672 --> 00:47:23,925 and this is where the tabernacle stands for 369 years. 973 00:47:24,050 --> 00:47:26,887 And we found ancient remnants of pottery everywhere, 974 00:47:27,012 --> 00:47:30,598 even in our backyard, from the time of the tabernacle. 975 00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:33,893 - Eliana, what brings Shiloh to an end? 976 00:47:34,018 --> 00:47:35,728 - We read the Book of Samuel, 977 00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:38,190 that Eli, the high priest, is here waiting. 978 00:47:38,315 --> 00:47:39,065 The children of Israel 979 00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:40,650 go to the battlefield, [metal clanking] 980 00:47:40,775 --> 00:47:42,527 and they fight the Philistines. 981 00:47:42,652 --> 00:47:45,322 The messenger comes running from the battlefield, 982 00:47:45,447 --> 00:47:47,490 and he gives the bad news, 983 00:47:47,615 --> 00:47:51,328 that we lost the battle, his sons were killed, 984 00:47:51,453 --> 00:47:54,915 and the enemy took the Golden Holy Ark of the Covenant. 985 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,042 Eli hears this terrible news, 986 00:47:57,167 --> 00:47:59,502 falls down, breaks his neck, and dies. 987 00:47:59,628 --> 00:48:02,047 We uncover that there was a huge fire here 988 00:48:02,172 --> 00:48:03,715 exactly at that time. 989 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,718 We even have raisins that were burnt to a crisp 990 00:48:06,843 --> 00:48:08,928 in this pyre. [intense music] 991 00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:11,807 It's one of the sites in Israel that the story of the Bible 992 00:48:11,932 --> 00:48:14,810 and the archeological finds are hand in hand. 993 00:48:14,935 --> 00:48:17,562 And I'm sure, Dinesh, that you can feel what I feel. 994 00:48:17,687 --> 00:48:18,855 It's a special feeling. [gentle music] 995 00:48:18,980 --> 00:48:21,900 - And it's the feeling, really, of a massive convergence 996 00:48:22,025 --> 00:48:24,695 of a biblical truth, 997 00:48:24,820 --> 00:48:28,532 now supported and confirmed by archeological discovery. 998 00:48:28,657 --> 00:48:29,573 - [Eliana] That's right. 999 00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:33,078 - You mentioned that the highway right there, Highway 60, 1000 00:48:33,203 --> 00:48:34,872 is the Highway of the Patriarchs. 1001 00:48:34,997 --> 00:48:36,080 What do you mean by that? 1002 00:48:36,205 --> 00:48:38,875 - There's one artery of life in ancient times. 1003 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,295 I'm gonna read this in Hebrew, and then I'll translate. 1004 00:48:41,420 --> 00:48:45,048 [Eliana speaking in Hebrew] 1005 00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:48,510 "And there was the festival of the Lord 1006 00:48:48,635 --> 00:48:51,763 from year to year in Shiloh, which is north of Bethel, 1007 00:48:51,888 --> 00:48:54,725 east of the highway that goes from Bethel to Shechem 1008 00:48:54,850 --> 00:48:56,225 on the south of Lebonah." 1009 00:48:56,352 --> 00:48:59,270 Right here, in Hebrew, it says highway, 1010 00:48:59,395 --> 00:49:02,190 and it's the main artery of life in ancient times, 1011 00:49:02,315 --> 00:49:04,567 and it's the main artery of life today. 1012 00:49:04,693 --> 00:49:06,653 - And this is the land, you're saying, 1013 00:49:06,778 --> 00:49:09,405 that Abraham and Joseph walked. 1014 00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:12,325 - And Jacob, right here. [gentle music continues] 1015 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:14,493 - [Dinesh] Shiloh invokes the very beginning 1016 00:49:14,618 --> 00:49:16,663 of the story of Israel, but in some ways, 1017 00:49:16,788 --> 00:49:20,000 it is also connected with the end times. 1018 00:49:20,125 --> 00:49:23,295 Jonathan Cahn spoke of red heifers. 1019 00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:26,798 We found the very same red heifers in Shiloh. 1020 00:49:26,923 --> 00:49:28,300 [red heifers lowing] Larry Borntrager 1021 00:49:28,425 --> 00:49:32,720 is a ranch hand from America looking after the red heifers. 1022 00:49:32,845 --> 00:49:34,807 Larry, in the Bible, [gates clinking] 1023 00:49:34,932 --> 00:49:38,852 it talks about the temple being built again 1024 00:49:38,977 --> 00:49:40,687 in the end times. 1025 00:49:40,812 --> 00:49:42,063 - [Larry] Yeah. 1026 00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:45,692 - And for the temple to be built again, 1027 00:49:45,817 --> 00:49:48,237 there would need to be services 1028 00:49:48,362 --> 00:49:51,113 or rites performed in the temple. 1029 00:49:51,238 --> 00:49:53,908 - They would need to have the waters of purification, 1030 00:49:54,033 --> 00:49:55,410 which according to Numbers 19, 1031 00:49:55,535 --> 00:49:57,620 would be the ashes of the red heifer 1032 00:49:57,745 --> 00:50:00,498 mixed in with living water, sprinkled on the people. 1033 00:50:00,623 --> 00:50:03,585 - So this practice goes back to the time of Moses? 1034 00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:04,502 - Yes. 1035 00:50:04,627 --> 00:50:06,087 30 years ago, a farmer thought, 1036 00:50:06,212 --> 00:50:09,007 "Maybe someday Israel might need a red heifer." 1037 00:50:09,132 --> 00:50:10,967 Some years ago, some of the rabbis 1038 00:50:11,092 --> 00:50:12,635 were looking for a red heifer in Israel. 1039 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,597 They couldn't find any, so they advertised outside. 1040 00:50:15,722 --> 00:50:17,807 This farmer said yes, he thinks he has some. 1041 00:50:17,932 --> 00:50:20,310 - Where was that? - In Texas. 1042 00:50:20,435 --> 00:50:22,853 - How'd they get here? - They came over by plane. 1043 00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:25,857 - Sometimes when people talk about Bible prophecy, 1044 00:50:25,982 --> 00:50:29,903 they speak in very general and abstract terms, 1045 00:50:30,028 --> 00:50:31,613 but here you have 1046 00:50:31,738 --> 00:50:35,158 a group of rabbis and Jews 1047 00:50:35,283 --> 00:50:39,620 who are anticipating the reconstruction of a temple 1048 00:50:39,747 --> 00:50:42,832 and are making actual preparations for doing rites 1049 00:50:42,957 --> 00:50:44,542 and services in it. 1050 00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:45,835 - That's the whole idea. 1051 00:50:46,837 --> 00:50:49,798 - Shiloh is a place of ancient biblical significance, 1052 00:50:49,923 --> 00:50:53,760 and so it seems to be not inappropriate- 1053 00:50:53,885 --> 00:50:55,303 - Exactly. - That these heifers 1054 00:50:55,428 --> 00:50:57,680 are back in Shiloh. 1055 00:50:57,805 --> 00:50:59,933 - [Larry] Yes. [bright music] 1056 00:51:00,058 --> 00:51:01,768 - [Dinesh] I went to a site in Jerusalem 1057 00:51:01,893 --> 00:51:04,353 that is home to perhaps the greatest discovery 1058 00:51:04,478 --> 00:51:08,400 in biblical archeology in the 21st century. 1059 00:51:08,525 --> 00:51:09,692 - [Ze'ev] Welcome to the City of David. 1060 00:51:09,818 --> 00:51:11,193 - Thank you very much. It's exciting. 1061 00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:13,863 - Let's take a look. - Right, let's take a look. 1062 00:51:13,988 --> 00:51:14,907 [bright music] 1063 00:51:15,032 --> 00:51:16,198 - [Ze'ev] It's a very active excavation. 1064 00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:20,620 This is, as we speak, uncovering Jerusalem's history 1065 00:51:20,745 --> 00:51:22,747 and heritage right before our eyes. 1066 00:51:22,872 --> 00:51:26,417 - Ze'ev Orenstein is the Director of International Affairs 1067 00:51:26,543 --> 00:51:28,795 for the City of David Foundation. 1068 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,340 [bright music continues] 1069 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:41,098 [tools clanking] 1070 00:51:41,223 --> 00:51:42,850 Wow, let's look at this. 1071 00:51:42,975 --> 00:51:43,935 What period is this now? 1072 00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:46,062 - So this is the Hellenistic period. 1073 00:51:46,187 --> 00:51:50,442 So, a little bit around the second temple was formed. 1074 00:51:50,567 --> 00:51:51,777 It's difficult work. 1075 00:51:52,777 --> 00:51:54,070 You have to be gentle, but also tough. 1076 00:51:54,195 --> 00:51:54,988 - Yeah. 1077 00:51:57,198 --> 00:52:00,535 Now, David was the greatest 1078 00:52:00,660 --> 00:52:04,580 of the kings of the Hebrew scriptures. 1079 00:52:04,705 --> 00:52:07,917 How was his palace, how did you discover it? 1080 00:52:08,042 --> 00:52:09,502 - The year was 2005. 1081 00:52:09,627 --> 00:52:12,505 Our visitor center is directly above our heads. 1082 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:14,007 All of this is underground. 1083 00:52:14,132 --> 00:52:18,052 One morning, Dr. Eilat Mazar, a world-renowned archeologist, 1084 00:52:18,178 --> 00:52:21,263 she comes into our offices and says to us, 1085 00:52:21,388 --> 00:52:23,392 "You need to move your visitor center. 1086 00:52:23,517 --> 00:52:28,188 Beneath your feet, you will find the palace of King David." 1087 00:52:28,313 --> 00:52:29,230 If you have a city on a hill, 1088 00:52:29,355 --> 00:52:31,817 what part of the hill would you expect to find a palace? 1089 00:52:31,942 --> 00:52:32,775 The top of the hill. 1090 00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:34,735 She says, "This is the top of the City of David, 1091 00:52:34,862 --> 00:52:35,987 this is where you'll find the palace." 1092 00:52:36,112 --> 00:52:38,240 I say, "Dr. Mazar, with all due respect, 1093 00:52:38,365 --> 00:52:40,658 what else do you have to support your theory?" 1094 00:52:40,783 --> 00:52:43,828 She shows us a royal Phoenician capital. 1095 00:52:43,953 --> 00:52:46,623 And she says that this royal Phoenician capital 1096 00:52:46,748 --> 00:52:48,208 found some 60 years ago, 1097 00:52:48,333 --> 00:52:50,793 on the slope that we're standing atop right now, 1098 00:52:50,918 --> 00:52:53,170 proves that where we're standing 1099 00:52:53,297 --> 00:52:56,298 is, in fact, the location of King David's palace. 1100 00:52:56,423 --> 00:53:00,637 And she opens up the Bible to 2 Samuel, chapter 5, 1101 00:53:00,762 --> 00:53:04,182 which recounts the story of how David conquers Jerusalem 1102 00:53:04,307 --> 00:53:05,225 and makes it his capital. 1103 00:53:05,350 --> 00:53:07,268 He reaches out to his neighbors in the north, 1104 00:53:07,393 --> 00:53:09,437 the Phoenicians, and it says, 1105 00:53:09,562 --> 00:53:13,525 "King Hiram of Tyre sent envoys to David with cedar logs, 1106 00:53:13,650 --> 00:53:15,568 carpenters and stonemasons, 1107 00:53:15,693 --> 00:53:18,238 and they built a palace for David." 1108 00:53:18,363 --> 00:53:19,948 Why do we find a royal Phoenician capital 1109 00:53:20,073 --> 00:53:21,700 here in the City of David? 1110 00:53:21,825 --> 00:53:25,120 Because it was the Phoenicians who built David's palace. 1111 00:53:25,245 --> 00:53:28,707 They begin to dig, and they find to the north, to the east, 1112 00:53:28,832 --> 00:53:30,875 walls up to 20 feet thick. 1113 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,627 Dr. Mazar finds at the base of the walls, 1114 00:53:32,752 --> 00:53:34,462 pottery and other organic material, 1115 00:53:34,587 --> 00:53:38,717 which she dates to 3,000 years ago, to the time of David. 1116 00:53:38,842 --> 00:53:42,928 This was the royal government center of the Davidic dynasty. 1117 00:53:43,053 --> 00:53:45,723 This was the original Capitol Hill. 1118 00:53:45,848 --> 00:53:47,350 There's a whole group of scholars 1119 00:53:47,475 --> 00:53:49,143 known as the Copenhagen School, 1120 00:53:49,268 --> 00:53:50,353 and they would have said to you, 1121 00:53:50,478 --> 00:53:52,897 "Prove to us, not using the Bible, 1122 00:53:53,022 --> 00:53:55,858 that there was a historic David, some 3,000 years ago." 1123 00:53:55,983 --> 00:53:59,195 Prior to 1993, you could not do it. 1124 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,238 There was an excavation in Israel's north 1125 00:54:01,363 --> 00:54:02,865 in a place called Tel Dan, 1126 00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:05,410 where a large stone inscription is unearthed, 1127 00:54:05,535 --> 00:54:08,830 dating to about 100 years or so after the time of David. 1128 00:54:10,165 --> 00:54:11,708 And this inscription is attributed 1129 00:54:11,833 --> 00:54:14,377 to a man named King Hazael of Aram. 1130 00:54:14,502 --> 00:54:15,712 Aram is modern-day Syria, 1131 00:54:15,837 --> 00:54:18,088 and this King Hazael is also mentioned in the Bible 1132 00:54:18,213 --> 00:54:19,423 in 2 Kings. 1133 00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:22,677 And this king, the inscription tells us, was in a good mood. 1134 00:54:22,802 --> 00:54:23,553 Why? [people chattering] 1135 00:54:23,678 --> 00:54:25,430 Because it says he had won 1136 00:54:25,555 --> 00:54:28,392 a major military victory over a king 1137 00:54:28,517 --> 00:54:31,518 from the House of David. [people shouting] 1138 00:54:31,645 --> 00:54:34,397 And if there's a House of David, what does that mean? 1139 00:54:34,522 --> 00:54:36,065 - There was a King David. - There was a David. 1140 00:54:36,190 --> 00:54:37,400 - The Davidic line. - That's right. 1141 00:54:37,525 --> 00:54:39,110 And so today, virtually everyone agrees 1142 00:54:39,235 --> 00:54:40,653 there was a historic David. 1143 00:54:40,778 --> 00:54:42,113 [gentle music] 1144 00:54:42,238 --> 00:54:43,197 A person relates to the Bible. 1145 00:54:43,323 --> 00:54:44,698 For many it's a book of faith. 1146 00:54:44,823 --> 00:54:46,660 You believe, or you don't believe. 1147 00:54:46,785 --> 00:54:49,037 Yet, many people today say, "I don't just want to believe. 1148 00:54:49,162 --> 00:54:50,622 I also want to know [bright music] 1149 00:54:50,747 --> 00:54:52,290 are the people who march through 1150 00:54:52,415 --> 00:54:54,375 the pages of the Bible, [people chattering faintly] 1151 00:54:54,500 --> 00:54:55,668 were they real people?" 1152 00:54:55,793 --> 00:54:58,588 And the discoveries being made here in the City of David 1153 00:54:58,713 --> 00:55:01,590 are showing that Jerusalem's biblical heritage 1154 00:55:01,717 --> 00:55:05,637 is not simply a matter of faith, but a matter of fact. 1155 00:55:05,762 --> 00:55:06,470 It's real. 1156 00:55:06,595 --> 00:55:10,975 Where we're standing over here, a small seal was unearthed, 1157 00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:13,645 and the name on the seal in ancient Hebrew writing, 1158 00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:15,688 dating back some 2,400 years, 1159 00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:19,358 was Nathan-Melek, servant of the king. 1160 00:55:19,483 --> 00:55:22,112 If you open up 2 Kings 23:11, 1161 00:55:22,237 --> 00:55:26,032 you find that this Nathan-Melek was a royal steward 1162 00:55:26,157 --> 00:55:30,120 to King Josiah, direct descendant of King David. 1163 00:55:30,245 --> 00:55:33,915 His royal chamberlain was somewhere in this area over here. 1164 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,583 [bright music] 1165 00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:42,048 The Pilgrimage Road has been called 1166 00:55:42,173 --> 00:55:44,550 the most significant archeological discovery 1167 00:55:44,675 --> 00:55:46,468 of the last 100 years. 1168 00:55:46,593 --> 00:55:49,138 This is what I call the biblical superhighway. 1169 00:55:49,263 --> 00:55:50,682 [gentle music] Anywhere that you wanted 1170 00:55:50,807 --> 00:55:53,518 to go in Jerusalem 2,000 years ago, 1171 00:55:53,643 --> 00:55:55,895 this was the road that would take you there, 1172 00:55:56,020 --> 00:55:57,813 from the Pool of Siloam 1173 00:55:57,938 --> 00:56:00,150 at the southern end of the city of David, 1174 00:56:00,275 --> 00:56:03,487 all the way up along the half-mile pilgrimage journey, 1175 00:56:03,612 --> 00:56:05,322 up to the temple on the Temple Mount. 1176 00:56:05,447 --> 00:56:06,155 And what you would have 1177 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,575 along the sides of the Pilgrimage Road, shops, stalls. 1178 00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:13,203 - And the Pool of Siloam was a purification spot. 1179 00:56:13,328 --> 00:56:15,082 - [Ze'ev] Before you can go up to the temple, 1180 00:56:15,207 --> 00:56:16,415 you have to cleanse yourself. 1181 00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:18,460 The Pool of Siloam in the City of David 1182 00:56:18,585 --> 00:56:22,005 was perhaps the largest ritual bath anywhere in the world. 1183 00:56:23,297 --> 00:56:25,092 - [Dinesh] With regard to Jesus, 1184 00:56:25,217 --> 00:56:28,470 what are the chances that he walked 1185 00:56:28,595 --> 00:56:29,928 this very road? 1186 00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:33,098 - Conservatively speaking? 100%. 1187 00:56:33,223 --> 00:56:36,227 He was in Jerusalem, and he was Jewish. 1188 00:56:36,352 --> 00:56:37,645 He would have gone with all the Jews 1189 00:56:37,770 --> 00:56:39,897 at that time to cleanse at the Pool of Siloam. 1190 00:56:40,022 --> 00:56:41,858 He would have then walked up the flagstones 1191 00:56:41,983 --> 00:56:43,610 that we're standing on right now, 1192 00:56:43,735 --> 00:56:46,070 of the Pilgrimage Road running through the City of David, 1193 00:56:46,195 --> 00:56:49,115 coming out at the temple on the Temple Mount. 1194 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:52,327 If you give me your hand, you can see over here, 1195 00:56:52,452 --> 00:56:56,330 that that is ash from 1196 00:56:56,455 --> 00:56:59,333 the fires that destroyed Jerusalem 1197 00:56:59,458 --> 00:57:03,045 2,000 years ago, the year 70, 1198 00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:04,880 when the Romans burned Jerusalem to the ground. 1199 00:57:05,005 --> 00:57:06,883 [flames roaring] [gentle music] 1200 00:57:07,008 --> 00:57:11,678 This coin, it goes back 66 to 70 C.E., 1201 00:57:11,805 --> 00:57:14,640 during the period known as the Great Jewish Revolt. 1202 00:57:14,765 --> 00:57:17,185 Jewish people are fighting for their freedom, 1203 00:57:17,310 --> 00:57:20,480 fighting against the Roman occupation of Jerusalem. 1204 00:57:20,605 --> 00:57:22,565 At that time, the coins had no monetary value. 1205 00:57:22,690 --> 00:57:24,733 So what's the point of all this? 1206 00:57:24,858 --> 00:57:27,278 These coins would say in ancient Hebrew writing, 1207 00:57:27,403 --> 00:57:28,780 "For the freedom of Zion." 1208 00:57:28,905 --> 00:57:33,325 Represent a hope, a wish, a dream, and a prayer 1209 00:57:33,450 --> 00:57:35,703 that one day, their descendants 1210 00:57:35,828 --> 00:57:38,582 would return to Jerusalem as sovereign. 1211 00:57:38,707 --> 00:57:42,043 It took 2,000 years, but there is a free Jerusalem today, 1212 00:57:42,168 --> 00:57:43,962 the capital of the state of Israel. 1213 00:57:44,087 --> 00:57:46,005 - And it's worth noting that 1214 00:57:46,130 --> 00:57:49,300 Israel was invaded by the Assyrians, 1215 00:57:49,425 --> 00:57:51,802 the Babylonians, the Romans, 1216 00:57:51,928 --> 00:57:53,680 but the Jews are still here. 1217 00:57:53,805 --> 00:57:57,683 - The people who walked on this road 2,000 years ago, 1218 00:57:57,808 --> 00:58:00,853 it's their descendants who will walk on it once again. 1219 00:58:02,397 --> 00:58:05,858 - One of the most remarkable things to me about all this 1220 00:58:05,983 --> 00:58:09,695 is that there does seem to be, in the face of facts, 1221 00:58:09,820 --> 00:58:11,907 a spirit of denialism. [gentle music continues] 1222 00:58:12,032 --> 00:58:14,033 - [Dinesh] The story that they've been telling 1223 00:58:14,158 --> 00:58:15,827 for the last series of decades 1224 00:58:15,952 --> 00:58:18,287 is that Israel is a colonial project, 1225 00:58:18,412 --> 00:58:19,997 that the Jewish people have no history, 1226 00:58:20,122 --> 00:58:21,875 no heritage in this land in general, 1227 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,043 and certainly not in Jerusalem in particular. 1228 00:58:24,168 --> 00:58:27,047 The problem with that is the City of David. 1229 00:58:27,172 --> 00:58:31,217 We are what you could call an inconvenient truth. 1230 00:58:31,342 --> 00:58:36,013 [gentle music] [singer vocalizing] 1231 00:58:36,138 --> 00:58:37,348 - North of Jerusalem 1232 00:58:37,473 --> 00:58:39,975 is the ancient city of Megiddo, 1233 00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:44,980 layered with centuries of war, worship and warning. 1234 00:58:45,105 --> 00:58:46,732 This was the stage 1235 00:58:46,857 --> 00:58:49,527 for some of history's earliest recorded battles. 1236 00:58:49,652 --> 00:58:52,822 Recent discoveries of Egyptian pottery at this site 1237 00:58:52,947 --> 00:58:55,408 confirm an epic battle documented 1238 00:58:55,533 --> 00:58:57,618 in 2 Kings and Chronicles 1239 00:58:57,743 --> 00:59:01,830 between King Josiah and an Egyptian pharaoh. 1240 00:59:01,957 --> 00:59:05,335 I spoke with Israeli archeologist, Ido Keynan. 1241 00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:08,003 Ido, how long have you been in the field of archeology? 1242 00:59:08,128 --> 00:59:10,172 - For about the last 40 years. 1243 00:59:10,298 --> 00:59:12,383 - You do your work with the Bible, 1244 00:59:12,508 --> 00:59:14,260 which you called your compass. 1245 00:59:14,385 --> 00:59:15,928 - Yes. - In one hand. 1246 00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:18,723 And then the tools of archeology in the other. 1247 00:59:18,848 --> 00:59:19,557 - So true. 1248 00:59:19,682 --> 00:59:22,227 The compass, the scriptures, 1249 00:59:22,352 --> 00:59:25,772 that helps me understand what I'm looking for. 1250 00:59:25,897 --> 00:59:30,067 - And are you aware of any significant archeological finding 1251 00:59:30,192 --> 00:59:32,528 that contradicts what you are holding in your hand, 1252 00:59:32,653 --> 00:59:34,072 namely, the Bible? 1253 00:59:34,197 --> 00:59:36,032 - No. [gentle music continues] 1254 00:59:36,157 --> 00:59:39,160 - [Dinesh] What is the significance of this place, Megiddo? 1255 00:59:39,285 --> 00:59:42,247 - There were about 37 battles 1256 00:59:42,372 --> 00:59:44,082 that took place here, 1257 00:59:44,207 --> 00:59:49,170 starting from, what was it, 2500 years B.C. and 1973. 1258 00:59:51,297 --> 00:59:54,050 Over here there is an Israeli airbase, 1259 00:59:54,175 --> 00:59:57,345 and it was attacked during that time by Syria. 1260 00:59:57,470 --> 01:00:00,432 - What you're saying is that this place has been 1261 01:00:00,557 --> 01:00:02,975 the center of constant battles. 1262 01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:05,437 - I don't say that, it's the scriptures. 1263 01:00:05,562 --> 01:00:08,690 This place, it says in Revelations, 1264 01:00:08,815 --> 01:00:11,733 this is where the last battle will take place. 1265 01:00:11,858 --> 01:00:14,737 - Megiddo is the root of the term Armageddon, 1266 01:00:14,862 --> 01:00:18,532 a term used in the context of the last days. 1267 01:00:18,658 --> 01:00:21,285 You don't believe that the final and apocalyptic clash 1268 01:00:21,410 --> 01:00:25,163 between good and evil is purely metaphorical. 1269 01:00:25,288 --> 01:00:28,583 You believe that there will be an actual confrontation, 1270 01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:31,337 and it will in some way involve Megiddo. 1271 01:00:32,547 --> 01:00:35,215 - Every word you just said, it's exactly it. 1272 01:00:37,677 --> 01:00:38,427 [gentle music] 1273 01:00:38,552 --> 01:00:40,888 - [Dinesh] In the hills of Galilee lies Nazareth, 1274 01:00:41,013 --> 01:00:42,890 the hometown of Jesus. 1275 01:00:43,015 --> 01:00:45,100 Today, Nazareth is a vibrant city 1276 01:00:45,225 --> 01:00:47,687 with a predominantly Muslim population, 1277 01:00:47,812 --> 01:00:51,607 yet it remains a key Christian pilgrimage destination. 1278 01:00:51,732 --> 01:00:55,695 [foreign language choral music] 1279 01:01:04,453 --> 01:01:06,705 - This is the place of the Annunciation, 1280 01:01:06,830 --> 01:01:10,710 where Mary was given the announcement that she's pregnant. 1281 01:01:15,213 --> 01:01:18,425 We see here the remainings of Nazareth, 1282 01:01:18,550 --> 01:01:20,595 going back 2,000 years ago. 1283 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,097 [gentle music] People have an idea 1284 01:01:22,222 --> 01:01:25,642 that Nazareth was a big city. 1285 01:01:25,767 --> 01:01:26,517 No. 1286 01:01:26,642 --> 01:01:29,353 Remember what the Scriptures tell us? 1287 01:01:29,478 --> 01:01:32,607 What good can come out of Nazareth? 1288 01:01:32,732 --> 01:01:34,233 Well, why do they say that? 1289 01:01:34,358 --> 01:01:37,403 Nazareth was a small village 1290 01:01:37,528 --> 01:01:41,073 of maybe 100 to 200 people. 1291 01:01:41,198 --> 01:01:42,242 It was small. 1292 01:01:42,367 --> 01:01:44,077 - [Dinesh] And today in Nazareth, 1293 01:01:44,202 --> 01:01:46,870 it looks like there's been a demographic shift. 1294 01:01:46,995 --> 01:01:49,623 - Ooh-hoo. 60 years ago, okay, 1295 01:01:49,748 --> 01:01:53,252 about 70% Christian Arabs, 1296 01:01:53,377 --> 01:01:56,422 mainly from the Eastern churches, right? 1297 01:01:56,547 --> 01:01:59,342 And 30% Muslims. 1298 01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:01,802 Today, it's just the opposite. 1299 01:02:01,927 --> 01:02:05,180 - In the place where Jesus was raised today, 1300 01:02:05,305 --> 01:02:06,557 70% Muslims. 1301 01:02:06,682 --> 01:02:07,725 - [Ido] Yes. 1302 01:02:07,850 --> 01:02:09,810 [gentle music] 1303 01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:11,478 - We continue further north 1304 01:02:11,603 --> 01:02:13,105 to the Sea of Galilee. 1305 01:02:13,230 --> 01:02:16,275 Along its shore, lies the ruins of Capernaum, 1306 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,443 once a humble fishing village, 1307 01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:21,238 now a silent witness to history. 1308 01:02:23,490 --> 01:02:26,702 It was here that Jesus called fishermen like Peter, 1309 01:02:26,827 --> 01:02:29,663 Andrew, James and John to follow him. 1310 01:02:29,788 --> 01:02:34,793 Ido, Mark, chapter 1, verse 21, Jesus came to Capernaum, 1311 01:02:35,670 --> 01:02:38,755 and on the Sabbath, he went to the synagogue 1312 01:02:38,882 --> 01:02:40,717 where he taught. 1313 01:02:40,842 --> 01:02:42,343 Is this where he taught? 1314 01:02:42,468 --> 01:02:43,887 - This is where he taught. 1315 01:02:44,012 --> 01:02:46,472 But the synagogue we are standing in now 1316 01:02:47,432 --> 01:02:51,060 is from a later period, from 400 years later. 1317 01:02:51,185 --> 01:02:52,812 [bright music] - So this is Jesus 1318 01:02:52,937 --> 01:02:56,023 saying, "You, Capernaum, 1319 01:02:56,148 --> 01:02:58,317 will you be exalted to heaven? 1320 01:02:58,442 --> 01:03:01,987 You will be brought down to Hades." 1321 01:03:02,112 --> 01:03:04,948 Jesus is predicting that this place will go down 1322 01:03:05,073 --> 01:03:06,783 and will not come back up again. 1323 01:03:06,908 --> 01:03:07,618 - Exactly. 1324 01:03:07,743 --> 01:03:11,413 Every verse, every sentence, every chapter 1325 01:03:11,538 --> 01:03:12,998 are there to be fulfilled. 1326 01:03:13,123 --> 01:03:16,627 And it took 600 years 1327 01:03:16,752 --> 01:03:18,922 'til this place was leveled out. 1328 01:03:19,047 --> 01:03:22,132 - Ultimately, Jesus's prophecy came true. 1329 01:03:22,258 --> 01:03:24,010 There's nothing here in Capernaum now 1330 01:03:24,135 --> 01:03:26,220 except for the remnants. 1331 01:03:26,345 --> 01:03:27,095 - Exactly. 1332 01:03:27,222 --> 01:03:27,930 [gentle music] 1333 01:03:28,055 --> 01:03:28,973 - [Dinesh] And right next door to us 1334 01:03:29,098 --> 01:03:30,642 are the ruins of a dwelling. 1335 01:03:30,767 --> 01:03:34,062 The dwelling is sometimes described as Peter's house, 1336 01:03:34,187 --> 01:03:36,605 which is not exactly correct, whose house is it? 1337 01:03:36,730 --> 01:03:38,983 - It's St. Peter's mother-in-law house. 1338 01:03:39,108 --> 01:03:43,487 In Mark it says, "And Jesus came to Capernaum 1339 01:03:43,612 --> 01:03:47,408 to St. Peter mother-in-law house, as she was sick. 1340 01:03:47,533 --> 01:03:50,537 She was in bed, and he healed her." 1341 01:03:50,662 --> 01:03:54,123 [gentle vocalizing music] 1342 01:03:55,165 --> 01:03:57,918 - [Dinesh] Biblical archeology is confirmation 1343 01:03:58,043 --> 01:04:01,297 of the ancient presence of the Jews in Israel. 1344 01:04:01,422 --> 01:04:03,423 Far from being colonizers, 1345 01:04:03,548 --> 01:04:07,220 the Jews are the original and indigenous inhabitants 1346 01:04:07,345 --> 01:04:08,595 of the region. 1347 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,557 Moreover, the Jews of today are the descendants 1348 01:04:11,682 --> 01:04:15,143 of the ancient Israelites, the Jews of the Bible. 1349 01:04:16,312 --> 01:04:19,648 Today's Jews speak the same language, eat the same food, 1350 01:04:19,773 --> 01:04:21,733 perform the same rites and rituals, 1351 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:23,610 and worship the same God. 1352 01:04:27,907 --> 01:04:30,868 Biblical archeology also shows that the Hebrew 1353 01:04:30,993 --> 01:04:33,745 and Christian scriptures are corroborated 1354 01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,998 in the seals and the stones. 1355 01:04:37,708 --> 01:04:41,253 As Ze'ev Orenstein said, "It's not simply a matter of faith, 1356 01:04:41,378 --> 01:04:43,923 it's also a matter of fact." 1357 01:04:46,675 --> 01:04:49,595 Jonathan Cahn's view of the Dragon's Prophecy 1358 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,138 is supported by history. 1359 01:04:52,265 --> 01:04:55,810 But what are the moral and practical implications? 1360 01:04:56,810 --> 01:04:59,522 [intense music] - Israel has dropped 1361 01:04:59,647 --> 01:05:03,192 more bombs in the last 10 days 1362 01:05:03,317 --> 01:05:06,278 than we dropped in a whole year in Afghanistan! 1363 01:05:06,403 --> 01:05:09,073 - There's clearly growing consensus in the council 1364 01:05:09,198 --> 01:05:11,825 that it must do more to hold Israel accountable. 1365 01:05:11,950 --> 01:05:14,245 - They're shooting and killing civilians 1366 01:05:14,370 --> 01:05:16,330 at humanitarian aid hubs. 1367 01:05:16,455 --> 01:05:17,205 Dozens of them 1368 01:05:17,332 --> 01:05:19,042 on a daily basis. - Piers, are we gonna 1369 01:05:19,167 --> 01:05:21,210 put a sock in that? - Little children are getting- 1370 01:05:21,335 --> 01:05:22,378 - Yeah, you're right, Piers. - Shot in the face. 1371 01:05:22,503 --> 01:05:23,337 - Piers. - It is a good time- 1372 01:05:23,462 --> 01:05:24,630 - It's a genocide. - Piers, you are- 1373 01:05:24,755 --> 01:05:25,422 - It's a genocide. [intense music continues] 1374 01:05:25,547 --> 01:05:28,092 - When regimes start wars, 1375 01:05:28,217 --> 01:05:31,553 they are responsible for the fate of their own children. 1376 01:05:31,678 --> 01:05:35,057 I mean, if I come and do a home invasion on you, 1377 01:05:35,182 --> 01:05:37,560 right, and threaten your children and you strike back, 1378 01:05:37,685 --> 01:05:41,105 and then I go grab my own kids and stick them in front of me 1379 01:05:41,230 --> 01:05:42,898 and say, "Don't shoot, don't shoot, 1380 01:05:43,023 --> 01:05:44,692 because I'm holding my own kids." 1381 01:05:44,817 --> 01:05:45,608 The truth of it is, 1382 01:05:45,735 --> 01:05:48,778 I am putting my kids in jeopardy, not you. 1383 01:05:49,072 --> 01:05:52,575 - [Dinesh] The controversial issue of civilian casualties 1384 01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:55,745 was addressed by Mosab Hassan Yousef, 1385 01:05:55,870 --> 01:05:59,332 who is the son of the one of the founders of Hamas. 1386 01:05:59,457 --> 01:06:02,460 His father has publicly called for his death. 1387 01:06:03,668 --> 01:06:07,172 - Israel did everything within their ability to minimize 1388 01:06:07,297 --> 01:06:09,633 the civilian casualty in Gaza. 1389 01:06:09,758 --> 01:06:12,512 [crowd shouting] While Hamas, 1390 01:06:12,637 --> 01:06:15,973 while Hamas did everything in their ability 1391 01:06:16,098 --> 01:06:16,890 to maximize- - Order! Order! 1392 01:06:17,015 --> 01:06:18,933 - The civilian casualties. - Order. 1393 01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:19,852 - [Chair] The speaker will be heard. 1394 01:06:19,977 --> 01:06:22,438 - Hamas did everything within their ability 1395 01:06:22,563 --> 01:06:25,315 to maximize the civilian casualty 1396 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,527 for political and financial gain, for global sympathy, 1397 01:06:28,652 --> 01:06:31,988 and they succeeded of fooling so many people. 1398 01:06:32,990 --> 01:06:34,117 [gentle music] - [Dinesh] Hamas confesses 1399 01:06:34,242 --> 01:06:37,077 it's desire to hurt its own people. 1400 01:06:52,927 --> 01:06:56,222 [pensive music] 1401 01:06:56,347 --> 01:06:58,515 - If Israel wanted to get rid of Gaza, 1402 01:06:58,640 --> 01:06:59,892 it would, a long time ago. 1403 01:07:00,017 --> 01:07:02,812 Israel has the power to erase Gaza if it wants to. 1404 01:07:02,937 --> 01:07:04,147 It didn't do that 1405 01:07:04,272 --> 01:07:07,483 because we're trying to eliminate Hamas bases 1406 01:07:07,608 --> 01:07:11,153 without hurting as many people as we can. 1407 01:07:11,278 --> 01:07:14,573 [pensive music continues] 1408 01:07:14,698 --> 01:07:18,993 They stole from me innocence, time, love. 1409 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,122 There's a limit to what they can steal. 1410 01:07:21,247 --> 01:07:23,540 I think that I'm not allowed to stop, 1411 01:07:23,665 --> 01:07:27,293 because there's so many stories that we'll never hear. 1412 01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:28,837 And those people, 1413 01:07:28,962 --> 01:07:31,215 they actually knew what the value of life is. 1414 01:07:31,340 --> 01:07:32,800 They actually enjoyed life. 1415 01:07:32,925 --> 01:07:36,345 So I think it's like I owe them to keep dancing. 1416 01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:38,013 - All these people? - Yes. 1417 01:07:38,138 --> 01:07:39,723 [gentle music] 1418 01:07:39,848 --> 01:07:42,893 - [Dinesh] There's no doubt that the civilian carnage 1419 01:07:43,018 --> 01:07:45,772 in Gaza remains a moral horror. 1420 01:07:45,897 --> 01:07:49,150 Even if Israel is justified in its actions, 1421 01:07:49,275 --> 01:07:52,778 who can justify the deaths of women and children? 1422 01:07:52,903 --> 01:07:55,990 For me, the civilian deaths on both sides 1423 01:07:56,115 --> 01:07:59,452 represent victories on the part of the dragon, 1424 01:07:59,577 --> 01:08:02,830 whose moral currency is death itself. 1425 01:08:04,123 --> 01:08:06,792 In her 1972 book, "My Life," 1426 01:08:06,917 --> 01:08:09,878 Israeli prime minister Golda Meir said, 1427 01:08:10,003 --> 01:08:13,965 "We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children, 1428 01:08:14,090 --> 01:08:16,968 but we can never forgive them for forcing us 1429 01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:19,763 to kill their children." 1430 01:08:19,888 --> 01:08:23,808 This captures the moral ambiguity of retaliation, 1431 01:08:23,933 --> 01:08:26,103 and what compounds the tragedy 1432 01:08:26,228 --> 01:08:29,273 is that it offers no immediate solution. 1433 01:08:30,482 --> 01:08:34,487 But is there a wider solution to the conflict itself? 1434 01:08:34,612 --> 01:08:36,322 For the Israeli perspective, 1435 01:08:36,447 --> 01:08:39,492 I turned to the Prime Minister of Israel. 1436 01:08:39,617 --> 01:08:41,327 - Prime Minister Netanyahu, 1437 01:08:41,452 --> 01:08:46,040 let me begin by asking you about October 7th. 1438 01:08:46,165 --> 01:08:48,917 - Well, I heard about it at 6:29, 1439 01:08:49,042 --> 01:08:51,337 which was more or less the moment 1440 01:08:51,462 --> 01:08:53,547 that the attack had crossed our lines. 1441 01:08:53,672 --> 01:08:55,382 I was in my home. 1442 01:08:55,507 --> 01:08:58,218 Got dressed, went to our military headquarters in Tel Aviv 1443 01:08:58,343 --> 01:09:01,847 and said, "This is not another round with Hamas terrorists. 1444 01:09:01,972 --> 01:09:02,848 This is a war." 1445 01:09:02,973 --> 01:09:05,683 I realized it wasn't only a war against Hamas, 1446 01:09:05,808 --> 01:09:08,562 it's a war against the Iran axis. 1447 01:09:08,687 --> 01:09:10,940 And we will have to take it on. 1448 01:09:11,065 --> 01:09:12,273 And I said and promised 1449 01:09:12,398 --> 01:09:14,610 that we would change the Middle East, 1450 01:09:14,735 --> 01:09:19,072 ridding it of the Iran's axis, ridding it of Iran's proxies, 1451 01:09:19,198 --> 01:09:22,200 but also ridding it of Iran's threat to annihilate Israel 1452 01:09:22,325 --> 01:09:24,453 and threaten the West with nuclear weapons. 1453 01:09:24,578 --> 01:09:27,957 - It seems that you recognized immediately that it posed 1454 01:09:28,082 --> 01:09:30,833 some serious problems for the idea 1455 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,170 of the two-state solution. 1456 01:09:33,295 --> 01:09:36,048 - Hamas had a state, a de facto state, 1457 01:09:36,173 --> 01:09:37,800 and used it not to promote peace, 1458 01:09:37,925 --> 01:09:39,468 but to try to annihilate Israel. 1459 01:09:39,593 --> 01:09:41,678 They pay terrorists for murdering Jews. 1460 01:09:41,803 --> 01:09:44,055 The more Jews they murder, the more they get paid. 1461 01:09:44,180 --> 01:09:47,475 The idea that we should give the Palestinians 1462 01:09:47,602 --> 01:09:49,228 who seek our destruction 1463 01:09:49,353 --> 01:09:53,398 a base for which to execute our destruction was a folly. 1464 01:09:53,523 --> 01:09:54,775 A lot of leaders in the West 1465 01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:57,570 still cling to this absurd notion 1466 01:09:57,695 --> 01:10:01,115 that this conflict between us and the Palestinians 1467 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,200 is about the absence of a Palestinian state. 1468 01:10:04,327 --> 01:10:05,160 It never was. 1469 01:10:05,285 --> 01:10:09,332 The goal was never to create a Palestinian state for peace, 1470 01:10:09,457 --> 01:10:12,877 but to destroy and annihilate the one and only Jewish state. 1471 01:10:13,002 --> 01:10:14,962 - The critics will say 1472 01:10:15,087 --> 01:10:19,592 that Israel has killed far more civilians 1473 01:10:19,717 --> 01:10:22,385 in retaliation for October 7th 1474 01:10:22,510 --> 01:10:25,722 than were killed on October 7th. 1475 01:10:25,847 --> 01:10:30,018 - Well, I think you killed a lot more Germans 1476 01:10:31,062 --> 01:10:33,730 than Americans were killed in World War II. 1477 01:10:33,855 --> 01:10:35,065 That's an understatement. 1478 01:10:35,190 --> 01:10:36,358 And the same is true of Japan. 1479 01:10:36,483 --> 01:10:39,737 Japan attacked you in a surprise attack, in Pearl Harbor. 1480 01:10:39,862 --> 01:10:41,988 They killed, I don't know, a few thousand Americans. 1481 01:10:42,113 --> 01:10:45,200 - I'd like to raise with you this amazing accusation 1482 01:10:45,325 --> 01:10:47,243 [gentle music] that Israel is somehow 1483 01:10:47,368 --> 01:10:50,413 a colonial power. 1484 01:10:50,538 --> 01:10:53,667 - This has been our land for 3,500 years 1485 01:10:53,792 --> 01:10:54,918 since Abraham came here. 1486 01:10:55,043 --> 01:10:57,545 And it was populated by the Jewish people, 1487 01:10:57,672 --> 01:10:58,963 by the people of the Bible. 1488 01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:00,298 That's when the Bible was written. 1489 01:11:00,423 --> 01:11:01,967 It wasn't written in Tibet. 1490 01:11:02,092 --> 01:11:04,720 It was written here by people that lived here. 1491 01:11:04,845 --> 01:11:06,513 Our identity was forged there, 1492 01:11:06,638 --> 01:11:08,723 our faith, and our very being. 1493 01:11:08,848 --> 01:11:11,060 We were often conquered by the Babylonians, 1494 01:11:11,185 --> 01:11:14,480 the Seleucid Greeks, the Romans, and then by the Byzantines, 1495 01:11:14,605 --> 01:11:15,772 and finally by the Arabs. 1496 01:11:15,897 --> 01:11:19,025 It's not we who colonized the area from the Arabs, 1497 01:11:19,150 --> 01:11:21,820 it's the Arabs who colonized the area from the Jews. 1498 01:11:21,945 --> 01:11:24,238 Other travelers, Brits, Americans, French, 1499 01:11:24,365 --> 01:11:27,283 came here in the 19th century, and they said, basically, 1500 01:11:27,408 --> 01:11:29,578 when will the Jews come back 1501 01:11:29,703 --> 01:11:31,455 and bring this land back to life? 1502 01:11:31,580 --> 01:11:32,622 And we did. 1503 01:11:32,748 --> 01:11:35,125 And the Palestinians joined us from neighboring lands. 1504 01:11:35,250 --> 01:11:36,835 And we never said, "You have to go out." 1505 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:37,795 We welcomed them. 1506 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,255 But now what they're saying is, "This is not your land. 1507 01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:42,423 It was never your land." 1508 01:11:42,548 --> 01:11:43,467 [gentle music] We came back to a land 1509 01:11:43,592 --> 01:11:45,635 that was largely barren and empty 1510 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,013 and we brought it back to life, and we're going to keep it. 1511 01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:53,310 - I saw a video of you walking the Pilgrimage Road. 1512 01:11:53,435 --> 01:11:56,855 Say a word about the role of biblical archeology 1513 01:11:56,980 --> 01:12:00,025 in affirming the presence of the Jews, 1514 01:12:00,150 --> 01:12:02,737 going back not just to the time of Christ, 1515 01:12:02,862 --> 01:12:05,363 but going back 2,000 years before that. 1516 01:12:05,488 --> 01:12:07,657 - First of all, look at Christ himself. 1517 01:12:07,783 --> 01:12:10,993 He wasn't a Palestinian teacher, he was a Jewish teacher 1518 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,122 with a Jewish name, Yeshua. 1519 01:12:14,288 --> 01:12:16,417 His father was Yosef, Joseph. 1520 01:12:16,542 --> 01:12:18,460 These are all Hebrew names. 1521 01:12:18,585 --> 01:12:22,380 And where did Jesus turn the tables on the money changers? 1522 01:12:22,505 --> 01:12:24,550 Where? In Nepal? 1523 01:12:25,717 --> 01:12:27,427 Perhaps in Singapore? 1524 01:12:27,552 --> 01:12:30,388 Of course not, it was in the Jewish temple. 1525 01:12:30,513 --> 01:12:34,058 [gentle music continues] 1526 01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:37,353 - In a recent exchange between Tucker Carlson 1527 01:12:37,478 --> 01:12:41,150 and Senator Ted Cruz, Tucker Carlson said, 1528 01:12:41,275 --> 01:12:43,568 "Are you saying that 1529 01:12:43,693 --> 01:12:46,863 the Jews in Israel under Netanyahu 1530 01:12:46,988 --> 01:12:51,827 are the descendants of the ancient Israelites 1531 01:12:51,952 --> 01:12:55,205 who are described in the Bible?" 1532 01:12:55,330 --> 01:12:57,123 - Of course. There's no question about it. 1533 01:12:57,248 --> 01:13:00,502 The Jews spread from this land to various parts of Europe, 1534 01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:03,213 to the Middle East and elsewhere, 1535 01:13:03,338 --> 01:13:06,092 but we never forgot this land. 1536 01:13:06,217 --> 01:13:08,677 We said, "Next year in Jerusalem. Next year in Jerusalem." 1537 01:13:08,802 --> 01:13:11,012 My great grandfather came here in the 19th century. 1538 01:13:11,138 --> 01:13:14,933 Most of the Palestinians who are alive today came after him. 1539 01:13:15,058 --> 01:13:17,268 So, that's what our history has been. 1540 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:20,688 On the one hand, regaining our ancient ancestral homeland, 1541 01:13:20,813 --> 01:13:23,025 and the other, developing a state that becomes 1542 01:13:23,150 --> 01:13:25,902 a juggernaut of technology and development. 1543 01:13:26,027 --> 01:13:28,197 We're a Silicon Valley in the Middle East, 1544 01:13:28,322 --> 01:13:32,033 a democratic society in the face of enormous attacks 1545 01:13:32,158 --> 01:13:34,453 of countries that want to annihilate us every day. 1546 01:13:34,578 --> 01:13:36,372 Who is Tucker Carlson defending here? 1547 01:13:36,497 --> 01:13:39,875 These are people who chant, "Death to America!" 1548 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,627 They're after you. 1549 01:13:41,752 --> 01:13:43,837 They wanna destroy Western civilization. 1550 01:13:43,962 --> 01:13:47,132 They wanna destroy everything that America stands for. 1551 01:13:47,257 --> 01:13:49,552 They say Israel is the small Satan. 1552 01:13:49,677 --> 01:13:51,470 The big Satan is America. [bright music] 1553 01:13:51,595 --> 01:13:53,138 The only place where Christians are safe 1554 01:13:53,263 --> 01:13:54,973 in the Middle East is in Israel. 1555 01:13:55,098 --> 01:13:57,683 Not tolerated, welcomed. 1556 01:13:57,810 --> 01:13:59,812 They participate in our society. 1557 01:13:59,937 --> 01:14:01,563 We take care of the holy places, 1558 01:14:01,688 --> 01:14:02,982 which are destroyed everywhere else. 1559 01:14:03,107 --> 01:14:05,192 Churches blown up throughout the Middle East. 1560 01:14:05,317 --> 01:14:07,862 So if Tucker Carlson is asking you that, 1561 01:14:07,987 --> 01:14:11,573 then he has no idea, not of Jewish history, but of history. 1562 01:14:11,698 --> 01:14:16,287 Who are these so-called defenders of MAGA defending? 1563 01:14:16,412 --> 01:14:18,247 They're defending the worst enemies 1564 01:14:18,372 --> 01:14:20,457 on the planet against America. 1565 01:14:20,582 --> 01:14:21,292 They're not MAGA. 1566 01:14:21,417 --> 01:14:24,545 The people who speak of MAGA, they love America, 1567 01:14:24,670 --> 01:14:26,338 and they love America's values, 1568 01:14:26,463 --> 01:14:30,175 and they don't identify with the worst enemies 1569 01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:32,970 that America is facing today in the world. 1570 01:14:33,095 --> 01:14:35,430 With President Donald J. Trump, 1571 01:14:35,555 --> 01:14:37,892 the greatest friend that Israel has ever had, 1572 01:14:38,017 --> 01:14:41,520 he understands that we're fighting a common enemy. 1573 01:14:41,645 --> 01:14:45,023 Iran wants to destroy you. We stand in their way. 1574 01:14:45,148 --> 01:14:47,150 I'm very proud of the fact that Israel 1575 01:14:47,275 --> 01:14:49,277 is the front line of this battle 1576 01:14:49,402 --> 01:14:51,322 of civilization against the barbarism 1577 01:14:51,447 --> 01:14:53,073 that threatens all free societies. 1578 01:14:53,198 --> 01:14:54,490 [bright music continues] 1579 01:14:54,617 --> 01:14:56,410 - How should we, as Americans, 1580 01:14:56,535 --> 01:14:58,495 respond to the situation? 1581 01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:00,330 I spoke to Erick Stakelbeck 1582 01:15:00,455 --> 01:15:03,958 on his stage at the TBN Studios in Dallas. 1583 01:15:04,083 --> 01:15:06,212 He's a journalist and TV host 1584 01:15:06,337 --> 01:15:08,130 who's been covering terrorism 1585 01:15:08,255 --> 01:15:10,923 in the Middle East for decades. 1586 01:15:11,048 --> 01:15:14,762 When I think about how countries have gotten their land. 1587 01:15:14,887 --> 01:15:17,388 One, they were there first. 1588 01:15:17,513 --> 01:15:22,393 The second is by some sort of treaty or negotiation. 1589 01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:23,937 And the third is by conquest. 1590 01:15:24,938 --> 01:15:26,773 Israel succeeds on all three. 1591 01:15:26,898 --> 01:15:31,403 - God, clearly in the Bible, promised the land to Abraham 1592 01:15:31,528 --> 01:15:33,030 and his ancestors forever. 1593 01:15:33,155 --> 01:15:36,783 And so we have the biblical divine legitimacy, 1594 01:15:36,908 --> 01:15:38,660 but then in 1947/48, 1595 01:15:38,785 --> 01:15:41,455 as the U.N. is coming up with this partition plan. 1596 01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:43,540 - [News Announcer] And finally, they came out with a plan 1597 01:15:43,665 --> 01:15:45,500 to partition Palestine. 1598 01:15:45,625 --> 01:15:48,253 - Israel right now is the size of the state of new Jersey. 1599 01:15:48,378 --> 01:15:49,713 The U.N. wanted to give Israel 1600 01:15:49,838 --> 01:15:52,632 an even smaller chunk of land than that, 1601 01:15:52,757 --> 01:15:55,093 and Israel said, "Okay, we'll do it." 1602 01:15:55,218 --> 01:15:56,803 - [News Announcer] The Middle Eastern Arabic nations 1603 01:15:56,928 --> 01:15:58,805 were in violent opposition, 1604 01:15:58,930 --> 01:16:00,848 and when Israel was voted a membership, 1605 01:16:00,973 --> 01:16:02,767 they walked out in a body. 1606 01:16:02,892 --> 01:16:04,143 - [Stakelbeck] Arabs rejected it, 1607 01:16:04,268 --> 01:16:06,397 invaded Israel simultaneously. 1608 01:16:06,522 --> 01:16:07,438 [intense music] 1609 01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:09,733 Israel, against all odds, prevailed. 1610 01:16:09,858 --> 01:16:10,983 - [News Announcer] In the year of independence, 1611 01:16:11,108 --> 01:16:13,445 fighting was fierce in the Negev Desert area. 1612 01:16:13,570 --> 01:16:15,488 Here, Israeli troops round up the Arabs 1613 01:16:15,613 --> 01:16:17,407 and took hundreds of prisoners. 1614 01:16:17,532 --> 01:16:19,993 - And that takes us to 1967. 1615 01:16:20,118 --> 01:16:23,247 Israel, on the cusp of being invaded by Syria, 1616 01:16:23,372 --> 01:16:25,957 by Egypt, by Jordan, Israel strikes first. 1617 01:16:26,082 --> 01:16:27,583 [dramatic music] 1618 01:16:27,708 --> 01:16:29,085 - [News Announcer] And that victory is a swift, 1619 01:16:29,210 --> 01:16:30,920 smashing and total one. 1620 01:16:31,045 --> 01:16:34,048 As crack air force, infantry, artillery and tank corps 1621 01:16:34,173 --> 01:16:36,802 combine to sweep across the Sinai Peninsula 1622 01:16:36,927 --> 01:16:40,763 to the Suez Canal, east of the Jordan, north into Syria. 1623 01:16:40,888 --> 01:16:43,100 [bright vocalizing music] - Israel ends the 1967 war 1624 01:16:43,225 --> 01:16:46,102 in possession of the Golan Heights, in possession of Gaza, 1625 01:16:46,227 --> 01:16:49,313 Judea and Samaria, and even the Sinai Peninsula 1626 01:16:49,438 --> 01:16:51,065 before they gave it back to Egypt. 1627 01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:54,193 So Israel checks all the boxes of legitimacy 1628 01:16:54,318 --> 01:16:55,445 for a nation state. 1629 01:16:56,863 --> 01:16:58,615 - Isn't it interesting that in this 1630 01:16:58,740 --> 01:17:02,035 highly significant piece of real estate, 1631 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,705 the forces of Islam 1632 01:17:04,830 --> 01:17:07,832 are sitting atop the holiest site 1633 01:17:07,957 --> 01:17:10,168 of both Judaism and Christianity? 1634 01:17:10,293 --> 01:17:13,922 - Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Quran, not even once. 1635 01:17:14,047 --> 01:17:16,342 It's mentioned hundreds of times in the Bible, 1636 01:17:16,467 --> 01:17:18,552 in both the Old Testament and the New. 1637 01:17:18,677 --> 01:17:20,887 The dome and the mosque were planted there 1638 01:17:21,012 --> 01:17:24,307 in the seventh century as victory arches. 1639 01:17:24,432 --> 01:17:28,478 This was the conquest of Jerusalem, the Holy City. 1640 01:17:28,603 --> 01:17:31,648 Even Muhammad, at first, when Islam started, 1641 01:17:31,773 --> 01:17:34,275 they faced not Mecca, he and his followers, 1642 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,445 they faced Jerusalem during their daily prayers. 1643 01:17:37,570 --> 01:17:40,823 They knew the significance of conquering Jerusalem. 1644 01:17:40,948 --> 01:17:43,868 This has been a pattern in Islamic conquest 1645 01:17:43,993 --> 01:17:44,745 throughout the centuries. 1646 01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:48,373 They build victory arches. [gentle music] 1647 01:17:48,498 --> 01:17:51,208 - What do you make, Erick, of anti-Semitism? 1648 01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:55,047 It seems to be a cousin of racism. 1649 01:17:55,172 --> 01:17:56,757 And yet, it's different. 1650 01:17:56,882 --> 01:18:00,302 In racism, there's an effort by a group of people to say, 1651 01:18:00,427 --> 01:18:02,928 "I'm up here and you're down there. 1652 01:18:03,055 --> 01:18:04,890 You're inferior to me." 1653 01:18:05,015 --> 01:18:06,600 But that's hard to say about the Jews, 1654 01:18:06,725 --> 01:18:08,435 because they are far and away 1655 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,353 the most successful tribe in world history. 1656 01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:13,815 - Yeah. - So anti-Semitism 1657 01:18:13,940 --> 01:18:16,150 is not simply a looking down on the Jews, 1658 01:18:16,275 --> 01:18:19,028 but, in some weird way, it's looking up to the Jews. 1659 01:18:19,153 --> 01:18:20,947 - It's the world's oldest hatred, 1660 01:18:21,072 --> 01:18:24,827 certainly demonic, a spiritual driver to it, 1661 01:18:24,952 --> 01:18:26,578 but much of it is based on envy. 1662 01:18:26,703 --> 01:18:28,413 People have asked, "Why the Jews?" 1663 01:18:28,538 --> 01:18:30,540 The devil hates the Jewish people 1664 01:18:30,665 --> 01:18:33,252 because they represent the existence of God. 1665 01:18:33,377 --> 01:18:36,922 You can't explain the existence and the rebirth of Israel 1666 01:18:37,047 --> 01:18:39,173 without bringing God into the picture. 1667 01:18:39,298 --> 01:18:42,093 Where else in human history have we seen a people 1668 01:18:42,218 --> 01:18:44,805 after 2,000 years of disbursement, 1669 01:18:44,930 --> 01:18:46,723 they return to that homeland, 1670 01:18:46,848 --> 01:18:48,642 they revive the Hebrew language, 1671 01:18:48,767 --> 01:18:52,478 and it's in regular use for the first time in 2,500 years. 1672 01:18:52,603 --> 01:18:54,355 - [Dinesh] And you're saying it has to be a miracle. 1673 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:55,898 - [Stakelbeck] It's a miracle. 1674 01:18:56,023 --> 01:18:57,942 - [Dinesh] The dragon's response? 1675 01:18:58,067 --> 01:18:59,193 - [News Announcer] On the first night of Passover, 1676 01:18:59,318 --> 01:19:01,572 another suicide bomber has killed 15 people, 1677 01:19:01,697 --> 01:19:03,865 injured 100 others. 1678 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:05,950 All of these people were civilians, 1679 01:19:06,075 --> 01:19:09,328 and there is no other reason than terror. 1680 01:19:10,122 --> 01:19:10,913 - [News Announcer] Three women killed 1681 01:19:11,038 --> 01:19:12,207 and more than 40 wounded 1682 01:19:12,332 --> 01:19:14,877 when a bomb exploded in a crowded outdoor cafe 1683 01:19:15,002 --> 01:19:16,670 in central Tel Aviv. 1684 01:19:16,795 --> 01:19:18,713 - [News Announcer] 15 killed, and 130 wounded 1685 01:19:18,838 --> 01:19:20,257 in Jerusalem today [sirens wailing] 1686 01:19:20,382 --> 01:19:21,090 [people shouting] when a suicide bomber 1687 01:19:21,215 --> 01:19:22,717 detonated in a crowded pizzeria. 1688 01:19:24,010 --> 01:19:25,970 [explosion blasting] [people screaming] 1689 01:19:26,095 --> 01:19:28,223 - Seems like in our time, 1690 01:19:28,348 --> 01:19:30,517 radical Islam has been 1691 01:19:30,642 --> 01:19:33,937 the primary transmitter 1692 01:19:34,062 --> 01:19:35,105 of terrorism. 1693 01:19:35,230 --> 01:19:38,107 - It's been said that not all Muslims are terrorists, 1694 01:19:38,233 --> 01:19:40,110 but all terrorism in the modern age 1695 01:19:40,235 --> 01:19:42,570 seems to be committed by Muslims. 1696 01:19:42,695 --> 01:19:45,115 We're seeing a great resurgence of radical Islam. 1697 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,700 I really think it began in 1979. 1698 01:19:47,825 --> 01:19:50,037 - [News Announcer] Chaotic celebrations erupted in Tehran 1699 01:19:50,162 --> 01:19:52,455 when the news broke that Shah had gone. 1700 01:19:52,580 --> 01:19:53,707 [bright music plays] The Shah is defeated. 1701 01:19:53,832 --> 01:19:55,333 Khomeini has won. 1702 01:19:55,458 --> 01:19:57,377 [intense music] - Iran was a friend of Israel, 1703 01:19:57,502 --> 01:19:59,753 a friend of the United States and the West. 1704 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,048 That all changed in 1979. 1705 01:20:02,173 --> 01:20:05,718 That was really the watershed moment for modern day terror, 1706 01:20:05,843 --> 01:20:07,303 because terrorists around the world, 1707 01:20:07,428 --> 01:20:09,138 whether they were Sunni, Shia, 1708 01:20:09,263 --> 01:20:11,600 they saw what the Ayatollah did in Iran. 1709 01:20:11,725 --> 01:20:13,602 It inspired jihadis around the world. 1710 01:20:13,727 --> 01:20:16,395 They said if they can do it, perhaps we can, too. 1711 01:20:16,522 --> 01:20:19,023 The dream of jihadis everywhere 1712 01:20:19,148 --> 01:20:21,233 is to have a nation state, 1713 01:20:21,358 --> 01:20:23,027 not just be a ragtag bunch 1714 01:20:23,152 --> 01:20:25,197 running back and forth between caves. 1715 01:20:25,322 --> 01:20:28,073 Iran is the crown jewel of jihadi government. 1716 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,452 We have the Taliban back in Afghanistan. 1717 01:20:30,577 --> 01:20:33,788 We have Syria run by Al-Qaida-linked-jihadis 1718 01:20:33,913 --> 01:20:35,790 who overthrew Bashar al-Assad, 1719 01:20:35,915 --> 01:20:39,543 and with backing of another Islamist regime in Turkey. 1720 01:20:39,668 --> 01:20:41,295 So across the map in the Middle East, 1721 01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:43,340 we see these regimes rising up. 1722 01:20:43,465 --> 01:20:46,552 It starts in Iran, but it does not end in Iran. 1723 01:20:46,677 --> 01:20:48,928 [gentle music] 1724 01:20:49,053 --> 01:20:50,430 - [Dinesh] How should Christians think 1725 01:20:50,555 --> 01:20:52,057 and feel about Israel? 1726 01:20:52,890 --> 01:20:56,645 Mike Huckabee is a former pastor and governor of Arkansas, 1727 01:20:56,770 --> 01:21:00,357 who is currently the U.S. ambassador to Israel. 1728 01:21:00,482 --> 01:21:03,025 - Ambassador Huckabee, the United States 1729 01:21:03,150 --> 01:21:06,487 is friendly with a lot of different countries, 1730 01:21:06,613 --> 01:21:10,492 but we have a special relationship with Israel. 1731 01:21:10,617 --> 01:21:11,702 And why is that? 1732 01:21:11,827 --> 01:21:15,288 - We share a common foundation, and that foundation is 1733 01:21:15,413 --> 01:21:19,125 a Judeo-Christian understanding and worldview, 1734 01:21:19,250 --> 01:21:22,337 without which there is no Western civilization. 1735 01:21:22,462 --> 01:21:25,215 Most of Europe was founded on that same notion, 1736 01:21:25,340 --> 01:21:28,175 but they pretty much abandoned and rejected it. 1737 01:21:28,302 --> 01:21:30,220 And a lot of America has rejected it, 1738 01:21:30,345 --> 01:21:33,973 but it still holds true that our fundamental foundation 1739 01:21:34,098 --> 01:21:37,310 is that understanding of who God is. 1740 01:21:37,435 --> 01:21:40,938 - What you're saying is that we wouldn't be who we are 1741 01:21:41,063 --> 01:21:45,152 if Israel wasn't what it is. 1742 01:21:45,277 --> 01:21:46,778 - You can be Jewish 1743 01:21:46,903 --> 01:21:50,115 and have nothing whatsoever to do with Christians. 1744 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:51,532 I, on the other hand, 1745 01:21:51,658 --> 01:21:55,537 cannot be a Christian without completely embracing 1746 01:21:55,662 --> 01:21:58,957 everything there is in the Jewish foundation, 1747 01:21:59,082 --> 01:22:01,458 because without that Jewish foundation, 1748 01:22:01,583 --> 01:22:03,043 there is no Christianity. 1749 01:22:03,168 --> 01:22:06,172 So there is an organic connection 1750 01:22:07,132 --> 01:22:09,342 between every person of faith, 1751 01:22:09,467 --> 01:22:11,678 be it Christian or Jew, to each other, 1752 01:22:11,803 --> 01:22:14,680 whether they totally understand that or not. 1753 01:22:14,805 --> 01:22:16,432 - [Protester] Israel, go to hell! 1754 01:22:16,557 --> 01:22:18,352 - [Protesters] Israel, go to hell! 1755 01:22:18,477 --> 01:22:20,937 [crowd chanting] 1756 01:22:21,062 --> 01:22:22,022 - [News Announcer] Jewish groups on campus 1757 01:22:22,147 --> 01:22:25,025 received anti-Semitic threats yesterday. 1758 01:22:25,150 --> 01:22:26,483 - [News Announcer] Anti-Semitic attack 1759 01:22:26,608 --> 01:22:27,777 injured several people. 1760 01:22:27,902 --> 01:22:28,612 - [News Announcer] Two people are dead 1761 01:22:28,737 --> 01:22:31,782 after a shooting outside a Jewish museum in Washington, DC. 1762 01:22:31,907 --> 01:22:32,698 - Free, free Palestine! 1763 01:22:34,033 --> 01:22:35,952 [intense music] 1764 01:22:36,077 --> 01:22:38,330 - What do you think is anti-Semitism? 1765 01:22:38,455 --> 01:22:41,792 - The whole issue of anti-Semitism is not geopolitical. 1766 01:22:41,917 --> 01:22:46,128 It is not ethnicity. It's not socioeconomic. 1767 01:22:46,253 --> 01:22:48,923 It really is a spiritual disease. 1768 01:22:49,048 --> 01:22:52,302 It is up versus down, good versus evil, 1769 01:22:52,427 --> 01:22:54,303 right versus wrong. 1770 01:22:54,428 --> 01:22:57,640 - For me one way to identify anti-Semitism 1771 01:22:57,765 --> 01:23:02,020 is to ask this question, "Are you singling out the Jews?" 1772 01:23:02,145 --> 01:23:05,065 People can criticize Israel, people can criticize the Jews. 1773 01:23:05,190 --> 01:23:05,898 - Yeah. 1774 01:23:06,023 --> 01:23:08,527 - But when you're criticizing the Jews for something 1775 01:23:08,652 --> 01:23:12,155 that you don't criticize others for, 1776 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,033 then it raises the question, what's your real motive? 1777 01:23:15,158 --> 01:23:16,785 - There is no doubt in the world 1778 01:23:16,910 --> 01:23:20,122 that there is a different standard applied to Israel, 1779 01:23:20,247 --> 01:23:22,957 but also to Jews as a people. 1780 01:23:23,082 --> 01:23:27,045 Every time Israel wins the war and the world response, 1781 01:23:27,170 --> 01:23:28,713 "Israel needs to give up land," 1782 01:23:28,838 --> 01:23:30,923 for the people that tried to kill Israel. 1783 01:23:31,048 --> 01:23:35,053 When in all of human history has the nation who won a war 1784 01:23:35,178 --> 01:23:38,723 been asked to give up what they won 1785 01:23:38,848 --> 01:23:40,892 after having been attacked? 1786 01:23:41,017 --> 01:23:42,393 [pensive music] 1787 01:23:42,518 --> 01:23:43,562 [gunshots] 1788 01:23:43,687 --> 01:23:46,647 What happened on October the 7th was a seminal event, 1789 01:23:46,773 --> 01:23:48,775 not just for Israel and the Jews, 1790 01:23:48,900 --> 01:23:52,070 it is a seminal event for the world. 1791 01:23:53,112 --> 01:23:55,698 - The writer, Jonathan Cahn, talks about the fact 1792 01:23:55,823 --> 01:23:59,243 that what happened on October 7th has a lot of parallels 1793 01:23:59,368 --> 01:24:01,955 of some of the ancient conflicts of Israel. 1794 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,248 - Centuries ago, when it was the Philistines, 1795 01:24:04,373 --> 01:24:05,708 it's easier to say, 1796 01:24:05,833 --> 01:24:08,335 "But they were a primitive, uneducated people." 1797 01:24:08,462 --> 01:24:11,213 We're talking about now people in the 21st century 1798 01:24:11,338 --> 01:24:15,510 who have access to a much broader body of knowledge, 1799 01:24:15,635 --> 01:24:17,928 understanding of history and perspective. 1800 01:24:18,053 --> 01:24:20,932 This was the intentional slaughter 1801 01:24:21,057 --> 01:24:22,767 of the most innocent: 1802 01:24:22,892 --> 01:24:25,103 the children, the babies, 1803 01:24:25,228 --> 01:24:27,772 women, the elderly people. 1804 01:24:27,897 --> 01:24:30,192 Why a level of evil like that? 1805 01:24:30,317 --> 01:24:31,733 Where does this come from? 1806 01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:34,653 And I really believe this comes from below. 1807 01:24:34,778 --> 01:24:36,865 This is from hell itself. 1808 01:24:36,990 --> 01:24:38,492 - And yet, 1809 01:24:38,617 --> 01:24:41,828 not only in the Islamic world, 1810 01:24:41,953 --> 01:24:45,457 but in Europe, in Canada... 1811 01:24:45,582 --> 01:24:47,708 - [Protester] Israel, burn, burn. 1812 01:24:47,833 --> 01:24:49,793 - [Protesters] Israel, burn, burn! 1813 01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:51,753 - In the United States, 1814 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:56,383 you have huge outpourings of activism, 1815 01:24:56,508 --> 01:25:01,180 not to express indignation over the terrorist attacks, 1816 01:25:01,388 --> 01:25:04,058 but over Israel's response. 1817 01:25:04,183 --> 01:25:05,352 - In the time of the Judges in the Old Testament, 1818 01:25:05,477 --> 01:25:07,812 it was said that everyone did what was right 1819 01:25:07,937 --> 01:25:09,313 in his own eyes. 1820 01:25:09,438 --> 01:25:11,523 In many ways, that describes our culture today. 1821 01:25:11,648 --> 01:25:15,237 - But the Western countries are pulling away from God. 1822 01:25:15,362 --> 01:25:18,782 Logically, they're pulling away from the people of God. 1823 01:25:18,907 --> 01:25:20,867 You have moral inversion in the West, 1824 01:25:20,992 --> 01:25:23,118 right becomes wrong, and wrong becomes right, 1825 01:25:23,243 --> 01:25:25,580 they look at the people who attack Israel and they go, 1826 01:25:25,705 --> 01:25:28,542 "The people who attack Israel are the victims, 1827 01:25:28,667 --> 01:25:30,502 and Israel is the aggressor." 1828 01:25:30,627 --> 01:25:33,378 - It is a totally upside-down morality to think that 1829 01:25:34,255 --> 01:25:37,550 when Jewish people are attacked, it had to be their fault. 1830 01:25:37,675 --> 01:25:40,262 And when they defend themselves and they seek to preserve 1831 01:25:40,387 --> 01:25:43,848 the lives of their own people, somehow that's an atrocity. 1832 01:25:43,973 --> 01:25:47,435 - Palestine could be a thriving metropolis, right? 1833 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,397 President Trump talks about it as a riviera. 1834 01:25:50,522 --> 01:25:52,440 - Gaza could have been Singapore. 1835 01:25:53,273 --> 01:25:55,610 Hamas turned it into Haiti. 1836 01:25:55,735 --> 01:25:58,697 [pensive music continues] 1837 01:26:09,707 --> 01:26:12,335 - At one point in "The Dragon Prophecy," 1838 01:26:12,460 --> 01:26:15,422 it speaks about the war against 1839 01:26:15,547 --> 01:26:17,507 the woman and her child [gentle music] 1840 01:26:17,632 --> 01:26:19,883 and her other children. 1841 01:26:20,008 --> 01:26:22,095 - If the woman is Israel, 1842 01:26:22,220 --> 01:26:23,888 then who are the rest of her children? 1843 01:26:24,013 --> 01:26:26,390 They have to be children of Israel. 1844 01:26:26,515 --> 01:26:28,017 If you're a true Christian, 1845 01:26:28,142 --> 01:26:30,353 the Bible says you're actually a child of Israel. 1846 01:26:30,478 --> 01:26:32,730 You are spiritually an Israelite. 1847 01:26:32,855 --> 01:26:35,983 So, the enemy makes war against both Israels, 1848 01:26:36,108 --> 01:26:37,360 the Israel of flesh and blood 1849 01:26:37,485 --> 01:26:39,612 in the world to destroy it physically, 1850 01:26:39,737 --> 01:26:41,948 and the spiritual Israel to destroy it spiritually, 1851 01:26:42,073 --> 01:26:42,990 to persecute it. 1852 01:26:43,115 --> 01:26:45,117 And the Bible says that in the last days, 1853 01:26:45,243 --> 01:26:47,120 both wars are gonna be evident: 1854 01:26:47,245 --> 01:26:48,245 the war against Israel, 1855 01:26:48,370 --> 01:26:51,457 and the war against God's people, against Christians. 1856 01:26:51,582 --> 01:26:55,210 - And when you look at who is persecuting the Christians, 1857 01:26:55,337 --> 01:26:59,423 very often it's coming from the same forces of radical Islam 1858 01:26:59,548 --> 01:27:01,383 that are going against the Jews. 1859 01:27:01,508 --> 01:27:02,718 - It's amazing. - It's the same enemy. 1860 01:27:02,843 --> 01:27:06,597 - Yeah, yeah, and at the same time, the very left wing, 1861 01:27:06,722 --> 01:27:08,515 they're generally against Israel 1862 01:27:08,642 --> 01:27:10,810 and against the ways of the Bible, 1863 01:27:10,935 --> 01:27:11,810 [laughs] against Christians. 1864 01:27:11,937 --> 01:27:15,648 The same end-time culture that hates Israel 1865 01:27:15,773 --> 01:27:19,152 is increasingly hating God's people who follow the Messiah. 1866 01:27:19,277 --> 01:27:21,528 So we're gonna watch both wars happen. 1867 01:27:21,653 --> 01:27:24,865 Israel and Christians are coming together 1868 01:27:24,990 --> 01:27:26,993 in a way they have never been before, 1869 01:27:27,118 --> 01:27:28,285 since the Book of Acts. 1870 01:27:28,410 --> 01:27:30,538 You had a Western civilization that wasn't Christian, 1871 01:27:30,663 --> 01:27:32,373 it was pagan and anti-Christian. 1872 01:27:32,498 --> 01:27:34,125 Well, it's going back. 1873 01:27:34,250 --> 01:27:35,877 So if everything's going back, 1874 01:27:36,002 --> 01:27:38,880 then the people of God have to go back to where we were, 1875 01:27:39,005 --> 01:27:40,130 which is the Book of Acts, 1876 01:27:40,255 --> 01:27:44,135 which is a dynamic, revolutionary, against-the-grain, 1877 01:27:44,260 --> 01:27:47,013 against-the-flow-of-the-culture people of God 1878 01:27:47,138 --> 01:27:48,513 who transform the world. 1879 01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:49,890 That's what we're called to. 1880 01:27:50,015 --> 01:27:52,935 - Just as the Israelis 1881 01:27:53,060 --> 01:27:55,270 had to become warriors [uplifting music] 1882 01:27:55,397 --> 01:27:58,775 like the Israelites of old, in the same vein, 1883 01:27:58,900 --> 01:28:02,945 Christians today need to put on a spiritual armor 1884 01:28:03,070 --> 01:28:05,782 like the Christians of old in the Book of Acts. 1885 01:28:05,907 --> 01:28:06,698 - Mm-hmm. 1886 01:28:06,823 --> 01:28:08,200 - And have that kind 1887 01:28:08,325 --> 01:28:10,870 of a warrior spirit. 1888 01:28:10,995 --> 01:28:11,703 - Yes. 1889 01:28:11,828 --> 01:28:15,165 We have to become fighters in the spirit for God. 1890 01:28:15,290 --> 01:28:17,793 We don't accept what the enemy wants to do with our culture. 1891 01:28:17,918 --> 01:28:19,753 We don't accept what he wants to do with the nation. 1892 01:28:19,878 --> 01:28:22,798 We don't accept what he wants to do in our family, 1893 01:28:22,923 --> 01:28:25,343 with our children, in our marriage, in our calling. 1894 01:28:25,468 --> 01:28:27,470 We say no, we take up the armor. 1895 01:28:27,595 --> 01:28:28,888 Because the very first believers, 1896 01:28:29,013 --> 01:28:30,473 they were warriors in the spirit. 1897 01:28:30,598 --> 01:28:32,100 God wants that again. 1898 01:28:32,225 --> 01:28:34,477 You overcome. You slay the dragon. 1899 01:28:34,602 --> 01:28:38,355 - Your message here is become a dragon slayer. 1900 01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:39,315 - [laughs] Yes. 1901 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:42,652 You know, Messiah is the ultimate dragon slayer, you know? 1902 01:28:42,777 --> 01:28:43,987 So we have to be that. 1903 01:28:44,112 --> 01:28:46,238 We are fighters against darkness 1904 01:28:46,363 --> 01:28:49,200 and if we keep fighting, we win. 1905 01:28:49,325 --> 01:28:52,912 ♪ We're holding on ♪ 1906 01:28:53,037 --> 01:28:56,832 ♪ But not for long ♪ 1907 01:28:56,957 --> 01:29:00,587 ♪ Can you pull us all close to the Holy Ghost ♪ 1908 01:29:00,712 --> 01:29:04,215 ♪ And keep us strong ♪ 1909 01:29:04,340 --> 01:29:07,760 ♪ We need Your light, we need Your love ♪ 1910 01:29:07,885 --> 01:29:11,097 ♪ To heal the world you made ♪ 1911 01:29:11,222 --> 01:29:14,850 ♪ And save us now in our darkest hour ♪ 1912 01:29:14,975 --> 01:29:19,105 ♪ With Your amazing grace ♪ 1913 01:29:19,230 --> 01:29:20,272 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1914 01:29:20,398 --> 01:29:23,525 ♪ Oh ♪ 1915 01:29:23,650 --> 01:29:26,403 ♪ Oh ♪ 1916 01:29:26,528 --> 01:29:27,405 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1917 01:29:27,530 --> 01:29:32,493 ♪ Oh ♪ 1918 01:29:33,285 --> 01:29:34,495 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1919 01:29:34,620 --> 01:29:36,122 - [Dinesh] Debbie and I have long cherished 1920 01:29:36,247 --> 01:29:41,168 the idea of being baptized as Jesus was in the Jordan River. 1921 01:29:42,670 --> 01:29:45,005 This is the church of the Ascension, 1922 01:29:45,130 --> 01:29:48,508 the site where Jesus was taken up into Heaven. 1923 01:29:48,633 --> 01:29:51,012 [gentle music] 1924 01:29:51,137 --> 01:29:53,055 For me, it's a reminder 1925 01:29:53,180 --> 01:29:55,767 that there's a world behind the world. 1926 01:29:56,225 --> 01:29:59,228 And concealed within political conflicts 1927 01:29:59,353 --> 01:30:02,482 is an eternal battle between good and evil. 1928 01:30:12,283 --> 01:30:15,368 The dragon is not always apparent to us, 1929 01:30:15,495 --> 01:30:19,957 but he is real and working to achieve our destruction. 1930 01:30:21,333 --> 01:30:24,795 Yet God's Word stands firm. 1931 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,757 The dragon will not prevail. 1932 01:30:27,882 --> 01:30:32,470 In the end, he will be cast down and God will triumph. 1933 01:30:32,595 --> 01:30:35,765 ♪ We need Your light, we need Your love ♪ 1934 01:30:35,890 --> 01:30:39,143 ♪ To heal the world you made ♪ 1935 01:30:39,268 --> 01:30:42,772 ♪ And save us now in our darkest hour ♪ 1936 01:30:42,897 --> 01:30:47,193 ♪ With Your amazing grace ♪ 1937 01:30:47,318 --> 01:30:48,987 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1938 01:30:49,112 --> 01:30:51,947 ♪ Oh ♪ 1939 01:30:52,072 --> 01:30:54,283 ♪ Oh ♪ 1940 01:30:54,408 --> 01:30:55,577 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1941 01:30:55,702 --> 01:30:58,703 ♪ Oh ♪ 1942 01:30:58,830 --> 01:31:01,332 ♪ Oh ♪ 1943 01:31:01,457 --> 01:31:02,208 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1944 01:31:02,333 --> 01:31:05,503 ♪ Oh ♪ 1945 01:31:05,628 --> 01:31:08,172 ♪ Oh ♪ 1946 01:31:08,297 --> 01:31:09,673 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1947 01:31:09,798 --> 01:31:12,593 ♪ Oh ♪ 1948 01:31:12,718 --> 01:31:15,220 ♪ Oh ♪ 1949 01:31:15,345 --> 01:31:18,892 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1950 01:31:19,017 --> 01:31:22,353 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1951 01:31:22,478 --> 01:31:25,773 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1952 01:31:25,898 --> 01:31:29,318 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1953 01:31:29,443 --> 01:31:31,320 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1954 01:31:31,445 --> 01:31:32,738 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1955 01:31:32,863 --> 01:31:34,448 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1956 01:31:34,573 --> 01:31:36,367 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1957 01:31:36,492 --> 01:31:38,077 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1958 01:31:38,202 --> 01:31:39,828 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1959 01:31:39,953 --> 01:31:41,455 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1960 01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:44,083 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1961 01:31:44,208 --> 01:31:47,503 ♪ We need Your light, we need Your love ♪ 1962 01:31:47,628 --> 01:31:51,007 ♪ To heal the world You made ♪ 1963 01:31:51,132 --> 01:31:54,593 ♪ And save us now in our darkest hour ♪ 1964 01:31:54,718 --> 01:31:59,140 ♪ With Your amazing grace ♪ 1965 01:31:59,265 --> 01:32:02,602 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1966 01:32:02,727 --> 01:32:06,105 ♪ Come in, God ♪ 1967 01:32:06,230 --> 01:32:09,525 ♪ Earth to God ♪ 1968 01:32:09,650 --> 01:32:12,110 ♪ Come in, God ♪