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[old film projector whirring]

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[reflective music playing]

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[Sean Penn] Let's talk turkey.

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When we talk about truth,

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there's a person's truth,

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and then there's a drug's truth, right?

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Those are very different things.

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For a while, the country was transfixed

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when all of the chaos happened over the…

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It's tiger blood.

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…Two and a Half Men period

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that led to the Tiger Blood, um, era
and all of that.

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-He's in the fight of his life here.
-[gargling]

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And he was not sober.

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And then you started to smell the fumes
of some shit that was going on.

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But now, I think,

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to have that same gifted person,

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uh, being able
to talk directly to us sober,

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the only thing I know

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or feel myself very strongly is…

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if you ask Charlie, did he do this,

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he's gonna tell you the truth.

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[old film projector whirring]

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[dramatic music playing]

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[Charlie] It's a good day to be alive.

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[blades whirring]

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I've been able to re-embrace life
through this program.

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I want to thank my family
for their support, my friends.

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I want to thank my fans
for all their support and their letters,

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kind words, and, um…

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the next time we do this
will be at a premiere.

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He was in rehab, right?

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And he gives me a call,
like, "They're letting us out."

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You know what he wanted to do?

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He wanted to go to the baseball field.

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[gentle music playing]

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Who brings him to the baseball field
from rehab was Martin.

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As we arrived,
there was a game going on at the field.

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Like a Sunday league game.

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Of course, I'm egging them on
to let Charlie play in the game, right?

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And then finally, they see who it is.
"Oh yeah, of course he can play."

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And this was one of the best moments.
This was…

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[exhales emotionally]

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My man gets up during the game.

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[music turns emotional]

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He hits a home run in front of his dad.

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Just leaving rehab.

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That does not hap-- I could not believe
that actually happened.

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I wish I had the ball, but…

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[Charlie] It's nice to have a second shot,
a second chance.

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They say that success tasted
the second time around is so much sweeter.

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I plan on tasting that.

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[man] See ya.

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[applause]

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-["Our House" playing]
-♪ I'll light the fire ♪

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♪ You place the flowers… ♪

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[Charlie] The only parts that were being
offered to me coming out of rehab

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were forgettable, supporting shit.

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I was looking for structure.

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♪ Staring at the fire… ♪

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A nine-to-five job.

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I was looking for consistency.

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Looking for something that just felt
like it would present its own rhythm,

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that I could naturally kind of slide into.

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I'd grown up on sitcom television
and was a huge fan of it.

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♪ Our house
Is a very, very, very fine house ♪

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♪ With two cats in the yard ♪

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♪ Life used to be so hard ♪

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[Charlie] And always
drawn to it as a medium

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that presented scenarios
in a way that were digestible.

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Okay, this is the most
romantic disease I've ever had.

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But felt harmless
because of all the humor, you know?

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So you could still come away with it
touching some part of you,

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but without feeling like, you know,

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you had to dig through… [exhales]
…to such a depth to find it.

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["Here Comes the Night"
by Streetheart playing]

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And I got the call.

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Let's start looking into
alternative dump sites.

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Vacant lots, barges… New Jersey.

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They're shutting down Spin City
because of Mike's health.

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Did you know, of all the brain disorders,

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Parkinson's is the one that scientists
believe may be closest to a cure?

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Yet we still need funding.

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And they're thinking,
would you be open to stepping in?

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♪ Oh, here it comes ♪

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[applause]

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♪ Here comes the night ♪

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[Charlie] Those aren't
just big shoes to fill.

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Those are like stepping into the boots
of the fucking Jolly Green Giant.

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What did you say your last name was again?

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Whoa, let's not rush things.

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They built in a backstory that's
pretty cool and pretty fucking funny.

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I was the guy showing up
that had a few skeletons, you know?

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And that was cool because
they were tying into us, actually,

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finally, me being in on the joke

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about all the shit that everybody
had read about and heard about.

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So, this is what it's like
to be the sober one.

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[audience laughter]

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No wonder I was
so unproductive in the '90s.

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It was a good feeling for me
because during Spin,

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The West Wing was going on, right?

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[chuckling] So Dad would come
to the condo on Tuesday nights, I think,

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but we were able to watch Spin
and then watch his episode.

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And the ratings the next day,

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The West Wing destroyed us.

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I'm… I'm really nervous and excited,
and I'm happy to be here.

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Then I got nominated for a Globe?

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Not bad. You remember what I taught you.

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[interviewer] Is it the first major award
that you won throughout your career?

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It's the only one.

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-[interviewer] The only one. To this day.
-That's it.

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I've never been invited before.
I'm with my lovely fiancée, Denise.

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Yeah. Hi, I'm Denise Richards.

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Charlie Sheen, Spin City.

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[audience cheering]

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Denise, you were right.

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My lovely fiancée
had a dream I was gonna win.

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["Denise" by Fountains of Wayne playing]

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♪ I know this girl named Denise ♪

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♪ She makes me weak at the knees ♪

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-♪ Sha-la-la-la-la-la-la ♪
-♪ When she holds me ♪

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-♪ Sha-la-la-la-la-la-la ♪
-♪ Won't you tell me ♪

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♪ Do you love me, Denise? ♪

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♪ Whoa-oh, do you love me, Denise? ♪

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[interviewer] I feel like so many people

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are going to be surprised
that you would be in this movie.

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Why are you here?

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There's a lot of stuff that I know
and I'm privy to that--

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And Charlie knows that I am.

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I want to be honest.

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Peel the layers and be honest,

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because otherwise this movie
is going to be a fluffy, you know,

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glossed-over, sugar-coated piece of shit.

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My dad brought my sister and I
to see Platoon when I was a teenager

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because my father's a Vietnam vet.

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And wh--

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No offense,

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my dad should've brought us to see
a movie with girls and makeup and stuff.

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Dirty Dancing.

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He brings his daughters to see Platoon.

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And I said to my dad,

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"Would you ever have thought that
bringing me and Nellie to go see Platoon,

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that I would marry that fucking guy?"

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Right?

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[Charlie] I met Denise on a film set.

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It's kind of a forgettable film
called Good Advice.

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So we can enjoy
the life we deserve and more.

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And more.

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It's an instant fantasy. I mean, she was,
yeah, the hottest woman alive at the time.

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He was, like,
beating around the bush and was shy.

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I was just like, "Spit it out.
Do you want to go out to dinner or what?"

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And then I think
he got nervous about that.

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That's the thing people
would be very surprised by.

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Charlie can be very shy.

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Then he told me about this game.

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"Are you a baseball fan?" [clears throat]
She was like, "Not so much."

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"Do you know who Barry Bonds is?"
She was like, "I've heard of him."

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I said, "He's on this epic
record-chasing run right now."

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"The night you want to get together,

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he's going to be in Houston
sitting on number 69."

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She's like, "What does any of that mean?"

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"It means I can't miss this game."

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"If you wanna come over,
we'll get some takeout."

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I didn't want to be the reason
why he missed that game.

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He didn't want
to cancel our evening together,

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which I thought was very sweet.

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And so, against what my dad advised,
me going over there,

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I still went over to Charlie's house
and watched the game with him.

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[beep]

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We microwaved our plastic meals.

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I brought mine that I had delivered
from my delivery service. [chuckles]

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He had his. He was on The Zone Diet.
I was on a different one.

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It was very romantic.

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[Charlie] We're watching the game.

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And like that entire season, I think
he probably walked his first two at-bats.

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And I remember it was later in the game,
might've been seventh or eighth inning,

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the pitcher made a mistake.
He threw a strike. [chuckles]

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[commentator] Sixty-nine home runs
for Barry Bonds, the 1-1.

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There it goes! There it goes!

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-Number 70 for Bonds!
-[crowd cheering]

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Over the right-center field bullpen
of the Houston Astros…

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I think we both kind of saw that as

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maybe a sign of something.

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So, the game ends,
and we had a nice time together.

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I walked her to the door,
at my condo in Westwood.

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And I said, uh, "Well, excellent, cool."

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"Let's do this again sometime soon.
No pressure."

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He had a calmness about him.

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And he seemed very grounded.

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I was not making that first move.

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I'm a little old-fashioned that way.

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He wasn't the guy that people read about.
He was very different.

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Especially sober.

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You're still trying to figure out, like,
how your body moves through space.

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She starts to turn away… [chuckles]

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And she grabs the back of my head
and just pulls me into a kiss, you know?

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Yeah, it was on.

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["Got You (Where I Want You)"
by The Flys playing]

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And more! And more! [laughs]

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♪ Got you where I want you ♪

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I didn't have sex with him.

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What'd you say if I told you
I'd leave you if you didn't let me?

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There was such a connection with he and I.

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[Tony] When Denise
and Charlie were married,

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they both seemed so very happy.

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I said, "He's gonna be together
with this woman for the rest of his life."

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It's all there.

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-It's all there and the bells are ringing.
-[bells ringing]

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My first guest, of course,
stars in the hit sitcom Spin City,

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which will air its hour-long season finale
next Wednesday on ABC.

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Please welcome Charlie Sheen.

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[crowd cheering]

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[Charlie] In that moment,

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life's pretty great.

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Then… we got the call.

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Spin City…

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canceled.

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[interviewer]
Did you take that personally?

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-Little bit, yeah.
-[interviewer] Yeah.

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[grunts]

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We decided we're going to parlay that
into putting the word out

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that I'm gonna continue in this space,
and I want to have my pick of the litter.

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And I get a call.
"Chuck Lorre wants to sit down with you."

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[intriguing music playing]

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[Conan O'Brien]
You have somehow hit the sweet spot.

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I think you've created two-thirds
of the television shows on the air.

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-Not just to-- [laughs]
-I'm sorry. I'm very sorry.

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[Lorre] The idea for Two and a Half Men
involved two brothers,

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one of which was a Job character,
the biblical Job.

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He was a hardworking, good man
to which endless shit happened.

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One of which was a Dionysian character,
a hard-partying kind of guy.

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He was the god of merriment
and wine and sex and whatnot.

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When my partner on this project
and I went to CBS

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to pitch the idea for Two and a Half Men,

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I explained the character
of one of the brothers

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as a Charlie Sheen-type character,

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to which she said, "Can you get him?"

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[audience laughter]

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Oh, is she staying over?
'Cause I may have parked behind her.

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[audience laughter]

241
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♪ Men, men, men, men
Manly men, men, men ♪

242
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[playful music]

243
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[Jon] I remember our first shoot.

244
00:12:34,587 --> 00:12:36,380
He sort of took me aside and said,

245
00:12:36,464 --> 00:12:38,716
"I know there's
a lot of stories about me."

246
00:12:38,799 --> 00:12:40,301
"I've been sober for two years,

247
00:12:40,384 --> 00:12:44,096
and it's incredibly important to me
to be faithful to that."

248
00:12:44,180 --> 00:12:46,891
"And I'm really trying to change my life."

249
00:12:46,974 --> 00:12:50,936
And I thought it was interesting
he felt the need to express that to me.

250
00:12:51,020 --> 00:12:55,149
He felt the need to say, "I'm gonna
be serious about this. Don't be worried."

251
00:12:55,232 --> 00:12:58,152
Sometimes in the middle of the day,
for no reason at all,

252
00:12:58,235 --> 00:13:00,780
I like to make myself
a big pitcher of margaritas

253
00:13:00,863 --> 00:13:02,615
and take a nap out on the sun deck.

254
00:13:02,698 --> 00:13:04,700
[audience laughter]

255
00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:05,618
Ah.

256
00:13:05,701 --> 00:13:07,787
[audience laughter]

257
00:13:08,913 --> 00:13:11,248
Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

258
00:13:11,332 --> 00:13:14,376
Say his name,
and everybody knows what that means.

259
00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:17,046
So everybody expects this,
the lothario guy.

260
00:13:17,129 --> 00:13:19,465
This guy who's got the quip handy.

261
00:13:19,548 --> 00:13:22,259
He could party all night,
show up an hour late,

262
00:13:22,343 --> 00:13:25,304
breeze through makeup,
saying hello to everybody,

263
00:13:25,387 --> 00:13:27,973
who's always gonna be
the cool guy in the room.

264
00:13:28,057 --> 00:13:32,728
But you start to realize, "There's a lot
going on there that he's covering."

265
00:13:32,812 --> 00:13:36,649
Charlie's actually this mass of fears.

266
00:13:36,732 --> 00:13:39,860
Once I understood that,
I understood a lot more about Charlie.

267
00:13:39,944 --> 00:13:43,072
But he goes in and out
of being able to have

268
00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:44,782
a healthy way of dealing with that,

269
00:13:44,865 --> 00:13:48,577
and then an incredibly destructive way
of dealing with that,

270
00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:50,788
which is the drugs and the partying.

271
00:13:50,871 --> 00:13:52,957
[trumpet flourish]

272
00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,627
At the risk of dating myself,
there is a Dean Martin quality,

273
00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:58,504
an effortlessness.

274
00:13:58,587 --> 00:14:03,008
He played a guy
who was inebriated with great class,

275
00:14:03,092 --> 00:14:04,385
which Charlie did as well.

276
00:14:07,096 --> 00:14:11,225
I think Charlie made what otherwise
would be a disreputable character…

277
00:14:12,226 --> 00:14:13,185
lovable.

278
00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:14,687
Charlie's Angels.

279
00:14:15,187 --> 00:14:17,106
[Chris Tucker]
That's Charlie Sheen's brilliance.

280
00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:20,317
That's his comedy chops.
That's his acting skills.

281
00:14:21,235 --> 00:14:22,695
Let's have a look.

282
00:14:24,488 --> 00:14:27,074
In my defense, it's a little cold in here.

283
00:14:27,575 --> 00:14:30,703
I thought he was always going to
maybe be more of a comedic guy

284
00:14:30,786 --> 00:14:35,332
because he had that natural ability
that you can't teach someone.

285
00:14:35,416 --> 00:14:36,250
He had that.

286
00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:39,295
He'd love to have that last line
before he walked out of the room.

287
00:14:39,378 --> 00:14:41,505
I didn't know
how that television world worked,

288
00:14:41,589 --> 00:14:43,173
but I knew it was a lot of work.

289
00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:45,175
This is a support group, Charlie.

290
00:14:45,259 --> 00:14:48,220
You're the only one who's pretending
it's about Scotch and cigars.

291
00:14:48,304 --> 00:14:49,889
[audience laughter]

292
00:14:49,972 --> 00:14:53,142
And even though I knew his humor,

293
00:14:53,851 --> 00:14:56,353
the way he was able to own the medium

294
00:14:56,437 --> 00:15:00,274
and do it where he's leading a show,

295
00:15:00,816 --> 00:15:04,445
he's leading the comic timing
with very good assist plays,

296
00:15:05,112 --> 00:15:09,116
I guess I was surprised
and delighted by it.

297
00:15:09,617 --> 00:15:11,619
You'll have to forgive my brother.

298
00:15:11,702 --> 00:15:14,622
He thinks with his penis,
and his penis isn't very bright.

299
00:15:14,705 --> 00:15:16,373
[audience laughter]

300
00:15:16,957 --> 00:15:20,002
That's true.
Anybody who knows me will confirm that.

301
00:15:21,003 --> 00:15:21,837
This didn't build.

302
00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:24,632
There was an audience for it
almost immediately.

303
00:15:24,715 --> 00:15:26,383
Keep your hands off my wife.

304
00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:28,969
Obviously it was a huge hit right away.

305
00:15:29,053 --> 00:15:30,888
We kinda killed it out of the gate.

306
00:15:30,971 --> 00:15:35,601
And I remember watching football
that last Sunday before we hit the air,

307
00:15:35,684 --> 00:15:37,561
we were every other commercial.

308
00:15:37,645 --> 00:15:39,521
They were pumping us, yeah.

309
00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:41,941
It's difficult to sort of
temper your confidence

310
00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:43,817
because it all feels so easy.

311
00:15:43,901 --> 00:15:47,404
"It's funny. This is funny, you know.
Easy to be funny. Everybody loves us."

312
00:15:47,488 --> 00:15:49,531
And when it feels that easy,

313
00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:51,700
it's easy to sort of get lulled

314
00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:54,912
into the sense
that this is always going to be this easy.

315
00:15:54,995 --> 00:15:56,830
[Charlie] They brought the idea to me.

316
00:15:56,914 --> 00:16:00,209
"How do you feel about having Denise
on the show as a romantic interest?"

317
00:16:00,292 --> 00:16:01,168
I'm like, "Cool."

318
00:16:01,251 --> 00:16:05,381
It's the easiest way not to get yelled at
when you get home about kissing a girl.

319
00:16:05,464 --> 00:16:07,675
"Come to Mama" bums me a little.

320
00:16:07,758 --> 00:16:11,303
Can we make it,
"Come to Catholic schoolgirl"?

321
00:16:12,304 --> 00:16:15,015
Yes, Monsignor.

322
00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:16,684
Hallelujah.

323
00:16:17,267 --> 00:16:22,815
Denise, she struck me as somebody who
was just way more practical than Charlie.

324
00:16:22,898 --> 00:16:25,317
She's the anchor he needs in his life.

325
00:16:26,068 --> 00:16:27,528
[gasps] Aww.

326
00:16:27,611 --> 00:16:29,738
Look at what good poopy you made.

327
00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:32,199
[Charlie] There needed
to be a baby in the scene,

328
00:16:32,282 --> 00:16:34,118
and we had Sam.

329
00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:37,788
She must have been a couple months old,
and she was cooing at the time.

330
00:16:37,871 --> 00:16:39,915
And the strangest thing happened,

331
00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:44,211
where she didn't make a peep
during our dialogue.

332
00:16:44,294 --> 00:16:48,173
Chuck pointed this out when he was
in post with that episode, that he said,

333
00:16:48,257 --> 00:16:50,676
"Your daughter inherited your timing,

334
00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:54,013
because she didn't speak
over a single, not just a line,

335
00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:57,725
a single word between you and her mom."

336
00:16:57,808 --> 00:16:59,309
[Sam cooing]

337
00:16:59,393 --> 00:17:00,644
[chuckling]

338
00:17:00,728 --> 00:17:02,688
-Would you throw this away?
-Sure.

339
00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:06,608
[audience laughter]

340
00:17:06,692 --> 00:17:11,530
[Jon] I could sense there were things that
he was never going to be that suburban,

341
00:17:11,613 --> 00:17:13,991
being more of just a regular married guy.

342
00:17:14,074 --> 00:17:18,287
I felt like it might be,
you know, fighting against the tide.

343
00:17:18,370 --> 00:17:19,288
What's wrong?

344
00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:20,706
Nothing.

345
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:23,834
[Jon] At one point,
Denise showed up unexpected.

346
00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:26,045
-I get this frantic knock on my door.
-[knocking]

347
00:17:26,128 --> 00:17:28,922
And it's Charlie.
I opened, and I was like, "What's up?"

348
00:17:29,006 --> 00:17:32,092
He's looking around frantically.
I mean, the guiltiest look around.

349
00:17:32,176 --> 00:17:36,305
I mean, it's like a cliché, and he said,
"Hey, man. Can you hold this for me?"

350
00:17:36,388 --> 00:17:39,349
It's a brown paper bag,
and I'm like, "What is it?"

351
00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:41,560
"I'm not gonna hold it.
Is it legal? What…"

352
00:17:41,643 --> 00:17:44,480
And he said, "No, it's legal."
I was like, "Oh, okay."

353
00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:47,733
So I put it in my dressing room,
and I closed the door.

354
00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,236
And the bag is just sitting there looming.

355
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,571
Uh… [laughs]

356
00:17:52,654 --> 00:17:55,824
And I was, like,
"What could possibly be so embarrassing

357
00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,285
that Charlie Sheen
doesn't want his wife to see it?"

358
00:17:58,368 --> 00:18:00,746
Finally, I couldn't help it
and I looked in the bag.

359
00:18:00,829 --> 00:18:04,500
It was legal.
It was Barely Legal, the porn magazine.

360
00:18:04,583 --> 00:18:05,834
Uh… [chuckles]

361
00:18:05,918 --> 00:18:07,920
How? How do I push you away?

362
00:18:08,003 --> 00:18:12,257
I felt bad that Charlie's
relationship with Denise was going south.

363
00:18:12,341 --> 00:18:14,843
-You can't commit!
-Hey, I can commit.

364
00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:17,012
Oh, yeah? Prove it.

365
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:20,057
[Denise] As soon as the show
started getting really successful,

366
00:18:21,391 --> 00:18:24,394
I think the pressure of that changed him.

367
00:18:25,229 --> 00:18:30,400
It was almost like he was sabotaging
the success and sabotaging our family.

368
00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:34,905
When things started to go good,
I felt like things were being sabotaged.

369
00:18:34,988 --> 00:18:36,824
Try one of these. It'll relax you.

370
00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:38,700
Oh, perfect.

371
00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:42,412
Charlie, you can't just pop a pill
without knowing what it is.

372
00:18:42,496 --> 00:18:44,915
She just said what it is.
Thanks, Mom. Gotta go.

373
00:18:44,998 --> 00:18:46,750
I was feeling squirrelly, you know?

374
00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:49,294
I was looking for anything
that could be justified

375
00:18:49,378 --> 00:18:53,799
but not completely derail
what I was trying to do.

376
00:18:53,882 --> 00:18:56,635
And pills showed up as the answer.

377
00:18:56,718 --> 00:18:58,011
So I thought.

378
00:18:58,095 --> 00:19:00,514
[interviewer] When you say "pills,"
what are we talking about?

379
00:19:00,597 --> 00:19:03,100
Hydrocodone, like a Norco or Vicodin.

380
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:05,686
It always starts with the doctor,

381
00:19:05,769 --> 00:19:08,438
usually for some type of pain
somewhere on your body

382
00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:13,360
that you could probably navigate
with just, you know, Advil and ice.

383
00:19:14,069 --> 00:19:16,071
[interviewer] Did you know
you were an addict

384
00:19:16,155 --> 00:19:17,614
and potentially going down this road?

385
00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:20,242
How did you process?
You didn't think about consequences?

386
00:19:20,325 --> 00:19:25,539
I thought about it, but I negotiated
the hell out of it with myself, you know.

387
00:19:25,622 --> 00:19:28,125
"Yeah, okay, that thing went a little far,

388
00:19:28,208 --> 00:19:31,211
but maybe if I just make
these few changes here,

389
00:19:31,295 --> 00:19:33,881
I think it can be much more manageable."

390
00:19:33,964 --> 00:19:34,923
You know?

391
00:19:35,424 --> 00:19:40,846
And that's-- that's the fiction
that we start to, uh, embrace as reality.

392
00:19:40,929 --> 00:19:44,391
You can see the soulless emptiness
in that shark's eyes.

393
00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:45,767
[gasps] Ooh!

394
00:19:45,851 --> 00:19:47,477
Two and a Half Men!

395
00:19:47,561 --> 00:19:51,273
You can see the soulless emptiness
in Charlie Sheen's eyes.

396
00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:53,817
[Charlie] Sadly, the pills,

397
00:19:53,901 --> 00:19:59,573
they do create a lot
of just irrational anger.

398
00:20:00,073 --> 00:20:02,159
When it started to change, it was quick.

399
00:20:03,327 --> 00:20:08,707
I remember reaching out to his sponsor
and saying I was concerned.

400
00:20:08,790 --> 00:20:14,087
But people in his circle were like,
"It's your hormones. You're postpartum."

401
00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:17,174
If I don't behave the way you want me to,
you think it's hormonal.

402
00:20:17,257 --> 00:20:20,594
Not every time,
but you've gotta admit there is a pattern.

403
00:20:20,677 --> 00:20:23,639
I was like,
"No. There's something fucking wrong."

404
00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:28,602
That's when I started to see that
people in his life were trying to,

405
00:20:28,685 --> 00:20:33,190
I felt, kind of pit us against each other,
even though we were married

406
00:20:33,273 --> 00:20:37,444
and we had a kid,
and another baby on the way, and it was--

407
00:20:37,527 --> 00:20:39,696
That was very difficult for me.

408
00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:42,741
And I'm not just this quiet wife.

409
00:20:42,824 --> 00:20:46,370
I, you know-- I'm very--
I'm a strong woman, and I'll…

410
00:20:46,453 --> 00:20:48,163
Like, something is not right.

411
00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:51,541
[rock music intro playing]

412
00:20:51,625 --> 00:20:53,669
Sheen versus Richards on top in G.

413
00:20:53,752 --> 00:20:57,214
A California judge ordering Charlie Sheen
to keep at least 300 feet away

414
00:20:57,297 --> 00:20:59,258
from his estranged wife, Denise Richards.

415
00:20:59,841 --> 00:21:02,427
Yeah, I had the snap aggression.

416
00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:04,888
Because you're not mad at the person,

417
00:21:04,972 --> 00:21:08,517
you're mad at the fact
that the second dose you had to take

418
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,520
just to get right,
just to feel kind of normal,

419
00:21:11,603 --> 00:21:17,609
didn't give you the pizzazz or the bump
that the first two or three gave you.

420
00:21:17,693 --> 00:21:20,988
And so you spend the whole day,
night, weekend, whatever,

421
00:21:21,071 --> 00:21:25,284
just chasing that, kind of,
that first warm jets.

422
00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:27,828
Like in a… Like in an invisible jacuzzi.

423
00:21:27,911 --> 00:21:29,997
You're just warm jets, you know?

424
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,416
He got very, um…

425
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:34,876
kind of aggressive.

426
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,005
[reporter] What she claims happened
behind closed doors is remarkable.

427
00:21:38,088 --> 00:21:39,464
[photographer] Charlie and Denise!

428
00:21:39,548 --> 00:21:43,385
[reporter] The most explosive charge,
Richards says Sheen threatened her life.

429
00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:47,055
I mean, what I went through,
what he did put me through,

430
00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:49,975
I don't know how I'm here, to be honest.

431
00:21:50,058 --> 00:21:53,979
And I think the only way through tragedy,
what I was going through,

432
00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:59,026
was having a fucking sense of humor
about it because it was so bad.

433
00:21:59,109 --> 00:22:00,360
It was so bad.

434
00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:03,322
So… And we can joke around,
like, stupid shit.

435
00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:06,825
I know outside people
would think we're crazy, making fun.

436
00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:11,621
"Remember when you took a baseball bat
to all the TVs?" Shit like that, whatever…

437
00:22:11,705 --> 00:22:16,710
It's like-- It sounds horrible
and very dark, but for us, it's…

438
00:22:17,294 --> 00:22:20,714
[chuckling] That was
the life getting through.

439
00:22:20,797 --> 00:22:24,468
I think that if I wasn't a strong person,

440
00:22:24,551 --> 00:22:29,848
I would have gone down a very dark road
just to deal with all this shit.

441
00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:30,932
It was a lot.

442
00:22:31,016 --> 00:22:35,312
I made it a lot more difficult
than it needed to be, you know?

443
00:22:35,395 --> 00:22:36,438
And I own that.

444
00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:39,608
And I'm not--
I feel awful about that to this day.

445
00:22:39,691 --> 00:22:41,610
[reporter 1] Do you think
he cares about the kids?

446
00:22:41,693 --> 00:22:43,987
[reporter 2] Does court
ever get any easier?

447
00:22:44,071 --> 00:22:47,199
Um… no. No one wants to be down here.
This isn't for publicity.

448
00:22:47,282 --> 00:22:50,160
This is embarrassing and humiliating,
and it's for my kids.

449
00:22:50,952 --> 00:22:54,539
[Tony] At that time, Denise and Charlie,
they had two daughters.

450
00:22:55,165 --> 00:22:58,627
I said, "If he's getting a divorce,

451
00:22:58,710 --> 00:23:03,423
it probably had to do
with him being back on something."

452
00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:05,884
Denise and Charlie,
it was like, "Unbelievable."

453
00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:09,554
[reporter] But now what's unbelievable
is how ugly and nasty

454
00:23:09,638 --> 00:23:13,642
the divorce battle between Denise Richards
and Charlie Sheen has become.

455
00:23:13,725 --> 00:23:16,686
[Charlie] Because of the problems
Denise and I had when Lola was born,

456
00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:20,357
I didn't have a chance to,
in her early part of her life,

457
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,692
to really bond with her.

458
00:23:22,776 --> 00:23:25,362
[Lola] I always wanted him
to be sober growing up.

459
00:23:25,946 --> 00:23:29,074
And just because
you can't really have a real relationship

460
00:23:29,157 --> 00:23:31,660
with someone
who is going through addiction,

461
00:23:31,743 --> 00:23:34,246
it's hard 'cause they're not
in the right frame of mind,

462
00:23:34,329 --> 00:23:36,915
and they can't talk to you
the way they'd want to.

463
00:23:36,998 --> 00:23:43,797
So… yeah, I really was never really close
with my dad when I was younger.

464
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,593
I was always the one who was told less,
I think, 'cause they wanted to protect me.

465
00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:52,597
I did want us to just pretend like
everything was fine in front of the kids.

466
00:23:52,681 --> 00:23:54,391
It's not their fault we got divorced.

467
00:23:54,474 --> 00:23:57,018
They didn't ask
to be born into a broken family.

468
00:23:57,102 --> 00:24:01,773
They didn't ask to be born into a family
that is super public and all this shit.

469
00:24:03,024 --> 00:24:04,192
[sighs]

470
00:24:07,863 --> 00:24:09,614
-Sorry.
-[interviewer] It's all right.

471
00:24:13,076 --> 00:24:15,328
-Sorry, you guys.
-[interviewer] Why don't we take a break?

472
00:24:15,412 --> 00:24:17,622
-I don't care if they record.
-[interviewer] I know. I do.

473
00:24:17,706 --> 00:24:19,708
-No, they should record.
-[interviewer] I know, but--

474
00:24:19,791 --> 00:24:22,794
They should.
You're doing a fucking docuseries.

475
00:24:22,878 --> 00:24:26,006
They should. It's fine.
I don't care. [exhales]

476
00:24:26,089 --> 00:24:27,716
Because it's true.

477
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:32,679
If you're gonna get the truth,
get the fucking truth. The truth is… It's…

478
00:24:32,762 --> 00:24:35,724
[voice breaks] I feel like my life
with Charlie is three stages.

479
00:24:35,807 --> 00:24:40,645
It's… the time I met him and married him.

480
00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:45,317
Then my divorce,
and then the aftermath of it, you know.

481
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,653
-Sorry to get so fucking emotional.
-[interviewer] No, it's all right.

482
00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:55,243
Because it was a lot,
and I've had to fucking hold it together.

483
00:24:58,497 --> 00:25:02,626
[Schubert's "Andante con moto"
from Trio in E-Flat Major playing]

484
00:25:03,543 --> 00:25:05,837
[indistinct chatter from crew]

485
00:25:05,921 --> 00:25:07,547
-Like this?
-[interviewer] You're good.

486
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:12,677
[Brooke] Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

487
00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:16,890
You know what I remember him from,
to being young?

488
00:25:16,973 --> 00:25:20,685
Oh, he was the hot football stud. Lucas?

489
00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:22,395
-[interviewer] Yeah.
-[Brooke] He was the--

490
00:25:22,479 --> 00:25:23,647
I loved Dirty Dancing.

491
00:25:23,730 --> 00:25:26,233
I was a dancer growing up.
So I remember him from that.

492
00:25:26,316 --> 00:25:29,402
[interviewer] To make sure we're clear,
he wasn't in Dirty Dancing.

493
00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:33,240
[paparazzi calling]

494
00:25:33,323 --> 00:25:34,533
[Brooke] Oh my goodness.

495
00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:38,537
So I think they literally
had just gotten divorced,

496
00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:40,330
and that's when I met him.

497
00:25:40,413 --> 00:25:44,042
She showed up
like a lighthouse in a freaking storm.

498
00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:47,128
I was at a party at a friend's house.

499
00:25:47,212 --> 00:25:49,256
We talked, spent an hour together.

500
00:25:49,339 --> 00:25:52,217
Casually found out
she was five years sober.

501
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:55,762
And I got her number,
and we talked a few days later.

502
00:25:55,845 --> 00:25:58,598
Then I went to her house,
we hung out, said good night.

503
00:25:58,682 --> 00:26:00,850
All very old-fashioned, you know?

504
00:26:01,434 --> 00:26:05,355
I just dug her spirit, man.
I dug her light. I dug her energy.

505
00:26:05,438 --> 00:26:07,232
[Jon] When Charlie
got remarried to Brooke,

506
00:26:07,315 --> 00:26:10,735
I was not able to be there because
I was on a movie, so my wife went.

507
00:26:10,819 --> 00:26:13,446
My wife called me afterwards and said,
"Oh my God."

508
00:26:13,530 --> 00:26:16,658
[chuckling] "I have concerns,"
is what my wife said.

509
00:26:16,741 --> 00:26:21,538
She said, "I just wanna tell you the toast
that Martin Sheen made at the wedding."

510
00:26:21,621 --> 00:26:23,999
And I said, "Okay,"
I braced myself. [chuckles]

511
00:26:24,082 --> 00:26:29,504
And he apparently stood up, uh, said,
"I hope you two know what you're doing,"

512
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:31,298
and sat back down. [chuckles]

513
00:26:31,381 --> 00:26:37,178
That was the entirety of Martin Sheen's
toast at Charlie Sheen's wedding.

514
00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:38,847
Brooke is from Palm Beach.

515
00:26:38,930 --> 00:26:42,809
And I told the parents,
"Don't let your daughter marry him."

516
00:26:42,892 --> 00:26:46,396
"I think he's wonderful, but a disaster.
Don't let your daughter marry him."

517
00:26:46,479 --> 00:26:48,607
You know,
one thing leads to the next thing,

518
00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:50,567
and marriage and children. [chuckles]

519
00:26:53,361 --> 00:26:56,990
When the boys were born,
they both had these heart problems.

520
00:26:57,073 --> 00:26:59,075
They couldn't get the show to shut down.

521
00:26:59,159 --> 00:27:02,871
So I was basically sleeping
at the hospital,

522
00:27:02,954 --> 00:27:05,206
and trying to learn my dialogue there,

523
00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:08,460
and going and checking on them
all hours of the night,

524
00:27:08,543 --> 00:27:11,671
and trying to show up
for rehearsals and run-throughs.

525
00:27:11,755 --> 00:27:15,842
And, you know, on the phone
with Brooke in between every take,

526
00:27:15,925 --> 00:27:20,263
and just really generating
a ton of resentment that

527
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:23,141
the show still mattered that much,

528
00:27:23,224 --> 00:27:29,022
when the star's kids at birth
were in tremendous peril.

529
00:27:29,105 --> 00:27:31,107
The kids are fine.
It was a temporary thing.

530
00:27:31,191 --> 00:27:33,151
They got through it,
they're tough as nails.

531
00:27:33,234 --> 00:27:35,445
But yeah, at that time it was… Phew.

532
00:27:35,528 --> 00:27:37,906
It was scary, man, you know.

533
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:43,328
I'm not placing any blame.

534
00:27:43,411 --> 00:27:46,247
I'm just, you know, trying to trace,

535
00:27:46,998 --> 00:27:48,708
kind of, the way things

536
00:27:49,542 --> 00:27:51,628
developed or unraveled, or both.

537
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:53,838
I remember the night

538
00:27:53,922 --> 00:28:00,345
that nine years of no crack
came to a tumbling, spectacular close.

539
00:28:01,012 --> 00:28:03,765
She's in the bathroom with this girl.
I hear them doing blow.

540
00:28:03,848 --> 00:28:05,600
I start banging on the door,

541
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:09,729
and they're like, "What do you want?
Don't be a party pooper."

542
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:13,149
I said, "If you're gonna do
this shit in my house,

543
00:28:13,233 --> 00:28:14,859
you need to stop wasting it."

544
00:28:14,943 --> 00:28:16,653
"You need to do it properly."

545
00:28:16,736 --> 00:28:18,697
"Let me show you
how to cook this shit up."

546
00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:20,448
And it was on.

547
00:28:20,949 --> 00:28:23,493
[foreboding music playing]

548
00:28:26,871 --> 00:28:28,915
[Brooke] I thought
I was gonna die for one hour.

549
00:28:28,998 --> 00:28:30,750
[911 operator] Okay, what's your name?

550
00:28:31,334 --> 00:28:32,252
[Brooke] Brooke.

551
00:28:32,335 --> 00:28:34,504
[911 operator] And what's
your husband's name?

552
00:28:36,131 --> 00:28:37,799
[Brooke] It's Charlie Sheen.

553
00:28:37,882 --> 00:28:41,261
[reporter] This is Charlie Sheen's mugshot
from the Aspen Police Department.

554
00:28:41,344 --> 00:28:43,847
He spent much of Christmas Day on lockdown

555
00:28:43,930 --> 00:28:46,725
after his wife called cops
to their rented vacation home.

556
00:28:48,393 --> 00:28:50,937
[Charlie] It's important to note
there was a moment

557
00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:53,022
before I got on the plane to go there

558
00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:56,109
where Dad, like, drove to the airport.

559
00:28:56,776 --> 00:29:00,780
And I remember I was, like,
walking to the plane,

560
00:29:00,864 --> 00:29:04,159
and he says, "Don't go.
Do not get on this plane."

561
00:29:04,242 --> 00:29:07,996
I said, "What, is it going to crash?"
He says, "No. No, but I just…"

562
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:10,749
He says,
"I've got a bad feeling about this."

563
00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:16,671
So he was the messenger that was sent
to prevent all that heartache, you know?

564
00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:20,425
I can't talk too much about… because…

565
00:29:20,508 --> 00:29:25,388
we don't really know what-- how she--
if she wants to speak to it, you know.

566
00:29:25,472 --> 00:29:27,682
[911 operator] Tell me
exactly what happened.

567
00:29:27,766 --> 00:29:31,811
[Brooke] You know,
my husband had me… with, um…

568
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:36,399
With a knife, and I feared for my life
and he threatened me.

569
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:39,986
We went hard fast.

570
00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:45,658
Here you are,
husband and wife, in this tiny room,

571
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:50,580
not leaving that room because
we're doing so many drugs for so long,

572
00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:56,419
that everyone starts
becoming crazy and paranoid.

573
00:29:56,503 --> 00:30:00,757
And all kinds of bizarre behavior
starts to happen, unfortunately.

574
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,719
She blew a 0.13 blood alcohol level,
which is legally drunk,

575
00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:08,181
and she has recanted,
uh, a good part of that story.

576
00:30:08,264 --> 00:30:12,644
So the whole issue, I think,
is really up in the air right now.

577
00:30:12,727 --> 00:30:16,022
-[Brooke] You know, I quickly recanted it.
-[interviewer] You recanted at the time?

578
00:30:16,105 --> 00:30:19,275
Oh, yeah, I went in
and that's how he got off.

579
00:30:21,736 --> 00:30:25,406
Yeah. Because I… I had to recant my story,

580
00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:28,535
and I remember the DA
being very upset with me.

581
00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:30,995
[interviewer] What do you mean you had to?
Tell us about that.

582
00:30:31,412 --> 00:30:33,540
Well, if I didn't recant my story,

583
00:30:33,623 --> 00:30:36,793
then he could have gotten
into a lot of trouble.

584
00:30:36,876 --> 00:30:38,461
[interviewer] So you felt like you had to

585
00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:42,048
just from the standpoint of protection
of the situation that you were all in?

586
00:30:42,131 --> 00:30:44,342
Well, of course.
Not only is he my husband,

587
00:30:44,425 --> 00:30:50,849
but also I was so incredibly screwed up
on serious drugs for a very long time,

588
00:30:50,932 --> 00:30:54,727
How-- I can't sit there and say,
"Okay, I know for a fact this happened,

589
00:30:54,811 --> 00:30:56,521
and this is how it happened,"

590
00:30:56,604 --> 00:30:59,524
or anything like that because of the mind.

591
00:30:59,607 --> 00:31:01,651
So once I sobered up and I saw,

592
00:31:01,734 --> 00:31:06,197
"Whoa, what position did I put us in
and who the fuck was I?"

593
00:31:06,281 --> 00:31:07,866
Excuse my language.

594
00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:10,285
And then I can't even recall.

595
00:31:10,952 --> 00:31:14,622
That's another-- It's not like I have
these specific memories of the night,

596
00:31:14,706 --> 00:31:17,542
and I was like, "This happened,
and this definitely happened,

597
00:31:17,625 --> 00:31:20,086
and I'm the victim because of…" No.

598
00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:22,797
In fact, I saw myself as very psychotic.

599
00:31:22,881 --> 00:31:25,258
I… I have my part in it. Sure. Fuck yeah.

600
00:31:25,842 --> 00:31:29,470
And I've made amends with Brooke
about it over and over.

601
00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:32,849
And, uh… Yeah, we're past it.

602
00:31:33,516 --> 00:31:34,559
Um…

603
00:31:34,642 --> 00:31:37,061
It sucks that it couldn't have
just stayed between us.

604
00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:43,109
I don't think it's fair just to pick up
these moments at Charlie's lowest

605
00:31:43,192 --> 00:31:47,113
and define him as a human being
based on those moments.

606
00:31:47,196 --> 00:31:50,241
Especially with a history
of substance abuse

607
00:31:50,325 --> 00:31:52,535
that alters your behavior and character.

608
00:31:53,202 --> 00:31:56,706
After that incident,
it just blew us apart.

609
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:59,626
[reporter] The rocky marriage
of Charlie Sheen and Brooke Mueller

610
00:31:59,709 --> 00:32:01,127
may be coming to an end.

611
00:32:01,210 --> 00:32:03,755
Sheen filed for divorce
from Mueller on Monday.

612
00:32:03,838 --> 00:32:05,715
Sheen was charged with domestic violence

613
00:32:05,798 --> 00:32:07,800
following a Christmas argument
with Mueller.

614
00:32:07,884 --> 00:32:09,218
[sighs]

615
00:32:09,302 --> 00:32:11,930
That was the first time
I thought of leaving.

616
00:32:12,013 --> 00:32:16,517
Because I didn't want to enable violence,
and there was violence involved in that.

617
00:32:17,268 --> 00:32:22,023
I think I had a talk with Chuck about it
before sitting down for the table read.

618
00:32:22,106 --> 00:32:24,567
And he said,
"You need to do the right thing."

619
00:32:24,651 --> 00:32:27,028
"You need to gather everybody
and apologize."

620
00:32:27,111 --> 00:32:28,738
And I said, "I'm not doing that."

621
00:32:28,821 --> 00:32:35,578
They have to… have that, you know,
glom on to that with this big presentation

622
00:32:35,662 --> 00:32:38,873
that would have just been a fucking
performance piece anyway.

623
00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:42,543
[Tiger Woods]
I brought this shame on myself.

624
00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:47,590
I hurt my wife, my kids… my mother.

625
00:32:47,674 --> 00:32:50,385
Tiger Woods' career
tanking after his scandal,

626
00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:55,640
but Charlie Sheen's career taking off,
even as his troubles continue to pile up.

627
00:32:55,723 --> 00:32:59,936
Two and a Half Men topping the ratings
on Monday, days after his assault arrest.

628
00:33:00,019 --> 00:33:04,065
[reporter] Sheen's not hiding himself,
and the public has kind of accepted it,

629
00:33:04,148 --> 00:33:05,566
whereas a guy like Tiger Woods,

630
00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:08,695
we imagine him
as a squeaky-clean, perfect athlete,

631
00:33:08,778 --> 00:33:12,532
so he does something wrong, and the public
turned against him immediately.

632
00:33:13,074 --> 00:33:17,078
It makes enormous amounts of money
for CBS in ad revenue.

633
00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:20,665
155 million last season, all told.

634
00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:24,419
They'd rather not have to put up with
Charlie Sheen's behavior,

635
00:33:24,502 --> 00:33:25,837
but they're sort of stuck.

636
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,423
Well, Les Moonves showed up to his house

637
00:33:28,506 --> 00:33:33,094
at nine o'clock in the morning
with the head of Warner Bros. Television,

638
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:35,263
and they said, "Here's two statements."

639
00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:40,476
"Either we're putting out a statement
that you've gone to rehab

640
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,896
and we are going to resume filming
when you come back,

641
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,943
or this statement is, uh,
'The show is canceled and we're done.'"

642
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:52,572
He's in the midst of falling apart
in every way I can imagine,

643
00:33:52,655 --> 00:33:55,033
and he's renegotiating
his contract for another year

644
00:33:55,116 --> 00:33:57,243
of a show I'm supposed to be on too.

645
00:33:57,326 --> 00:33:58,327
[answering machine beeps]

646
00:33:58,411 --> 00:34:02,081
Charlie, it's Alan, your brother.
No big deal.

647
00:34:02,915 --> 00:34:06,711
[Charlie] I remembered saying,
"Dude, I don't know, man. I just, uh…"

648
00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:10,548
"Feeling emotionally done there,
and I get there's a ton of money at stake,

649
00:34:10,631 --> 00:34:13,718
and I get there's a lot more juice
to be squeezed out of this thing,

650
00:34:13,801 --> 00:34:16,596
but, uh, I don't know
how much juice is left in me,

651
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:20,475
and I do fear if I go back
it's going to go terribly wrong."

652
00:34:20,558 --> 00:34:21,893
I said those words.

653
00:34:21,976 --> 00:34:25,605
Apparently, they had pre-sold
a couple of extra seasons of the show.

654
00:34:25,688 --> 00:34:29,692
Um, so… you know, it was worth their while

655
00:34:29,776 --> 00:34:33,196
to-to spend this astonishing
amount of money on Charlie.

656
00:34:33,279 --> 00:34:35,198
-[phone rings]
-Historical. What was that called?

657
00:34:35,281 --> 00:34:36,949
It was a game of telephone…

658
00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:37,867
Yeah.

659
00:34:37,950 --> 00:34:41,621
…between Moonves, my lawyer, and myself,

660
00:34:41,704 --> 00:34:44,290
and us, you know,
rejecting, rejecting, rejecting,

661
00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:46,292
and really calling his bluff.

662
00:34:46,375 --> 00:34:48,711
[militaristic march playing]

663
00:34:49,295 --> 00:34:52,465
[Jon] The dictator of North Korea
was a guy named Kim Jong Il.

664
00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:56,344
He acted crazy all the time
and thus got enormous amounts of aid

665
00:34:56,427 --> 00:35:01,390
from countries who were so scared of him
that, uh, they would shovel money at him.

666
00:35:01,474 --> 00:35:03,434
Well, that's what happened here.

667
00:35:03,518 --> 00:35:06,729
His negotiations went off the charts

668
00:35:06,813 --> 00:35:09,398
because his life was falling apart.

669
00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:10,399
Me…

670
00:35:10,483 --> 00:35:11,609
[laughs]

671
00:35:11,692 --> 00:35:15,613
…whose life was pretty good at that time,
I got a third of that.

672
00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:17,115
[photographer] Over here, guys.

673
00:35:17,198 --> 00:35:19,450
-Happy to have him back.
-He can't stop smiling.

674
00:35:19,534 --> 00:35:22,870
Absolutely. Absolutely.
He's my cleanup hitter.

675
00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:25,206
-[photographer] Charlie's the man.
-Nice.

676
00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:28,126
[reporter] CBS was really asking for it,
and they got it.

677
00:35:28,209 --> 00:35:30,753
Charlie Sheen has signed a two-year deal

678
00:35:30,837 --> 00:35:34,674
to return to Two and a Half Men
at two million an episode,

679
00:35:34,757 --> 00:35:38,052
making him the highest-paid
TV star in history.

680
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,472
[Denise] They made
the biggest deal in history

681
00:35:41,556 --> 00:35:44,100
for any other actor
on television at that time,

682
00:35:44,183 --> 00:35:46,227
and I think to date, actually.

683
00:35:47,562 --> 00:35:51,816
After his big contract,
I was actually upset with his people.

684
00:35:51,899 --> 00:35:56,988
Like, "Why are you guys putting him
on a show right now? Like, he's not well."

685
00:35:57,071 --> 00:36:02,160
But they just see the money
and just want to keep on going.

686
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:06,289
It was all anybody could focus on,

687
00:36:06,789 --> 00:36:11,169
that he was going to be
the highest TV paid star of all time.

688
00:36:11,252 --> 00:36:13,421
Yeah. That was a lot.

689
00:36:13,921 --> 00:36:20,428
It was too much money to give a guy
like me in that mindset at that time.

690
00:36:20,511 --> 00:36:24,140
[chuckling] It was a…
a recipe for a disaster.

691
00:36:24,223 --> 00:36:26,809
-["One Hour with You" playing]
-♪ How I would love… ♪

692
00:36:26,893 --> 00:36:29,478
[man on TV] …good does not always triumph.

693
00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:36,235
-Sometimes, the dark side…
-[dog barks]

694
00:36:36,319 --> 00:36:37,445
[interviewer] Where are we?

695
00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:43,409
[Marco] We're, uh, sitting in my condo
in Hollywood, California,

696
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:46,579
which I got from Charlie

697
00:36:48,122 --> 00:36:50,291
while I was kind of working for him.

698
00:36:50,833 --> 00:36:53,085
I went from being a petty dealer

699
00:36:53,169 --> 00:36:56,923
to making so much money
I didn't know what to do with it.

700
00:36:57,715 --> 00:37:00,009
Marco, aka Phil Heinz,

701
00:37:00,509 --> 00:37:02,929
um, spelled just like the ketchup,

702
00:37:03,429 --> 00:37:05,014
is a… is a friend of mine.

703
00:37:05,097 --> 00:37:07,892
And, um… I don't remember

704
00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:09,936
exactly how we met.

705
00:37:11,103 --> 00:37:14,565
[Marco] I had just got out of prison,
and I get a phone call.

706
00:37:14,649 --> 00:37:18,444
He goes, "Hey, man."
I'm like, "Bro… who are you?"

707
00:37:18,527 --> 00:37:21,155
He's like, "It's me, Charlie Sheen."

708
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,324
I'm like,"Oh God,
this has got to be a fucking prank."

709
00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:27,828
But I kinda recognized his voice because
the only shit they played in prison

710
00:37:27,912 --> 00:37:31,958
was Cops, George Lopez,
and Two and a Half Men.

711
00:37:32,041 --> 00:37:33,751
At that time I told my friend Barbie.

712
00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:37,463
I'm like, "Hey, are you down
to go party with Charlie Sheen?"

713
00:37:37,964 --> 00:37:39,924
And she's like, "Oh, hell yeah."

714
00:37:40,007 --> 00:37:43,052
"Charlie Sheen?
I'll fuck him for free," she said.

715
00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:45,805
Every night for, like,
the first two weeks,

716
00:37:45,888 --> 00:37:47,682
then to, like, every other night,

717
00:37:47,765 --> 00:37:53,479
and each time I would go to him,
it was $15,000 every single time.

718
00:37:53,562 --> 00:37:55,273
Sometimes 20, sometimes 30.

719
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,066
It was just like…

720
00:37:57,733 --> 00:38:00,903
It was just like amazing,
like, "Oh my God."

721
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:04,073
[Charlie] There were some nights
when it was just he and I.

722
00:38:04,156 --> 00:38:08,786
Just hanging out, drinking,
watching movies, and listening to music.

723
00:38:08,869 --> 00:38:12,957
Just doing, like, normal,
kind of fun shit, but just super high.

724
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,250
It was a tough decision

725
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:19,171
because I had just got out of prison
for a transporting charge,

726
00:38:19,255 --> 00:38:24,260
and I just wanted
to walk in the right direction in my life.

727
00:38:24,844 --> 00:38:29,890
But then… this opportunity
came up and, like, it was just like,

728
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:32,810
kind of like winning the lottery,
I mean, like…

729
00:38:33,561 --> 00:38:34,812
who wouldn't want to do it?

730
00:38:34,895 --> 00:38:37,189
Every now and then,
he'd start to do little things,

731
00:38:37,273 --> 00:38:38,899
like he'd miss a day of rehearsal.

732
00:38:38,983 --> 00:38:41,277
In the back of your mind,
you're always wondering,

733
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,322
"Well…" I obviously want
to give him the benefit of the doubt.

734
00:38:44,405 --> 00:38:47,533
He shows up on Friday
when we shoot in front of the audience.

735
00:38:47,616 --> 00:38:49,660
He knows his lines,
and he does a great job.

736
00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:51,454
Will you admit you've got a problem?

737
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,248
-I really don't know.
-[laughter]

738
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:56,959
I think the last couple of years
of the show, uh,

739
00:38:57,043 --> 00:39:03,841
I was certainly aware that things
were coming unglued and… you know,

740
00:39:03,924 --> 00:39:07,219
I was probably in a great deal of denial
about it as well.

741
00:39:07,803 --> 00:39:12,058
Your mind goes into denial thing because
your livelihood depends on his livelihood.

742
00:39:12,141 --> 00:39:13,809
"Everything's gonna be fine."

743
00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:15,853
"We're gonna be fine.
It's all gonna be fine."

744
00:39:15,936 --> 00:39:16,937
Give me the phone.

745
00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:19,482
-Aw.
-Give it.

746
00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:24,445
It's here somewhere. Hold on.

747
00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:28,574
Okay, let me just set this. Sorry.
It's a deep pocket and all that.

748
00:39:28,657 --> 00:39:29,867
[laughter]

749
00:39:29,950 --> 00:39:31,869
-If you know what I mean.
-[laughs]

750
00:39:31,952 --> 00:39:36,499
They would call me all the fucking time
to go there because I can't get fired.

751
00:39:36,582 --> 00:39:39,293
I was your ex-wife. I was already fired.

752
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:41,253
When they were desperate, they were like,

753
00:39:41,337 --> 00:39:44,548
"Could you please come over
and see if he's alive?"

754
00:39:44,632 --> 00:39:46,008
"We haven't seen him for two days."

755
00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:48,260
-And so then I would pound on his door.
-[knocking]

756
00:39:48,344 --> 00:39:51,389
And then I'd keep pounding.
I'm like, "Open the fuck up!"

757
00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:52,348
[loud knock]

758
00:39:53,724 --> 00:39:59,271
And I remember I brought food,
and Jon Cryer was there when I get there.

759
00:39:59,355 --> 00:40:03,359
And I'm making sandwiches,
and Jon was super nervous.

760
00:40:03,442 --> 00:40:06,237
And he goes, "What are you doing?"

761
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,949
I go, "Well, he hasn't eaten,
and I'm making sandwiches."

762
00:40:10,032 --> 00:40:13,953
And then you see
two or three hookers come downstairs.

763
00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:18,833
And I remember Jon asking me,
"Are you making them sandwiches?"

764
00:40:18,916 --> 00:40:21,585
I go, "Well, yeah."

765
00:40:21,669 --> 00:40:24,755
I mean, what am I going to say? Um…

766
00:40:24,839 --> 00:40:28,592
"Sorry, because of what
you do for a living, you don't get

767
00:40:28,676 --> 00:40:35,099
one of my white trash mayo, mustard,
turkey, cheese, lettuce sandwiches"?

768
00:40:35,182 --> 00:40:38,519
[chuckling] It wasn't like
I was making a gourmet sandwich.

769
00:40:38,602 --> 00:40:43,399
Like, I'm trying to
help-- get-- keep him good.

770
00:40:43,482 --> 00:40:46,402
[Marco] That's the chair you just
fucking broke, made you bust your ass.

771
00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:48,362
-What you doin' with it?
-Um, of course it is.

772
00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:51,365
Sometimes he would smoke so much crack
he couldn't even speak.

773
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:52,783
He would speak in tongues.

774
00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:53,826
Spinning round…

775
00:40:53,909 --> 00:40:55,661
He'd call me… [speaks gibberish]
Like, "What?"

776
00:40:58,998 --> 00:41:00,166
Piece of crap.

777
00:41:00,958 --> 00:41:03,461
[Jon] I wake up one morning,
and TMZ is reporting

778
00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:06,213
that Charlie's Mercedes
is at the bottom of a ravine.

779
00:41:06,797 --> 00:41:10,593
And I'm like, "Holy crap.
Did he drive off a flipping cliff?"

780
00:41:10,676 --> 00:41:14,680
I go into work that day, he comes in,
like, "Hey, man." I'm like, "Hey…"

781
00:41:14,763 --> 00:41:17,266
I'm looking him up and down
to see if there's scratches.

782
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:21,395
I assumed he was loaded,
he drove off the cliff, somehow survived,

783
00:41:21,479 --> 00:41:25,316
and then had to climb up the cliff
to get back home.

784
00:41:25,399 --> 00:41:27,234
Um… that is not what occurred.

785
00:41:27,318 --> 00:41:28,777
[reporter] Charlie Sheen's Mercedes

786
00:41:28,861 --> 00:41:30,905
was stolen from his home
in Hollywood Hills,

787
00:41:30,988 --> 00:41:33,657
then pushed off a cliff
along Mulholland Drive.

788
00:41:33,741 --> 00:41:36,327
And then it happened again.

789
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:38,204
-Twice in four months.
-[man] Yeah.

790
00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:39,371
The same cliff.

791
00:41:39,455 --> 00:41:42,875
But he just appeared to take it in stride.

792
00:41:42,958 --> 00:41:45,544
There's gotta be something else
going on in the world now.

793
00:41:45,628 --> 00:41:48,547
There's so much about his life
that I will never understand.

794
00:41:48,631 --> 00:41:50,591
I-- I could not live with that in my life.

795
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:53,802
That somebody stole my Mercedes
and drove it off a cliff twice

796
00:41:53,886 --> 00:41:56,430
would make me have
a hard time sleeping at night.

797
00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:01,060
And then it was starting
to show in the work.

798
00:42:01,143 --> 00:42:04,438
Look, I understand your concerns,
but it's not like that.

799
00:42:05,105 --> 00:42:05,940
****.

800
00:42:06,023 --> 00:42:08,442
[Jon] I could see his timing was off.

801
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:12,238
He was clearly overcompensating,
uh, for being loaded.

802
00:42:12,321 --> 00:42:14,448
He'd come in and be
super friendly to everybody.

803
00:42:14,532 --> 00:42:16,200
"Hey, everybody. How's it going?"

804
00:42:16,283 --> 00:42:20,704
He'd hug crew members who were like,
"Hey, hi, Charlie. Good to see you."

805
00:42:20,788 --> 00:42:23,499
-What?
-Eh-- Great. ****. Okay.

806
00:42:23,582 --> 00:42:26,043
[Jon] That's when I was worried
about Charlie every day.

807
00:42:26,126 --> 00:42:29,380
I was like, "Is this the day
that we're gonna lose him?"

808
00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:33,717
I considered Charlie a friend,
not just a colleague at work.

809
00:42:34,802 --> 00:42:39,306
But there was fear that, um,
tragedy was right around the corner.

810
00:42:40,516 --> 00:42:44,645
[Nassif] Yes, hi. My name is Dr. Nassif.
I live in Beverly Park in Beverly Hills.

811
00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:45,563
[operator] Yes, sir.

812
00:42:45,646 --> 00:42:48,440
[Nassif] I just got a call
from the residence of Charlie Sheen.

813
00:42:48,524 --> 00:42:50,776
He was very, very intoxicated.

814
00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:53,153
Also, apparently in a lot of pain.

815
00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:55,573
It's kind of weird,
the phone call I received.

816
00:42:55,656 --> 00:42:56,657
[operator] All right, sir.

817
00:42:56,740 --> 00:42:59,243
[reporter] Troubled
45-year-old actor Charlie Sheen

818
00:42:59,326 --> 00:43:00,869
is back in the spotlight.

819
00:43:00,953 --> 00:43:05,082
Yesterday morning, he was rushed
to Cedars-Sinai Hospital in Los Angeles.

820
00:43:05,165 --> 00:43:08,085
His father, Martin Sheen,
was spotted there later that day.

821
00:43:08,669 --> 00:43:11,964
TMZ reports Sheen
was taken out of his home on a stretcher

822
00:43:12,047 --> 00:43:13,799
and loaded into an ambulance.

823
00:43:13,882 --> 00:43:16,802
You're hearing things from TMZ,
you don't know what's true,

824
00:43:16,885 --> 00:43:19,847
you don't know
what kind of shape he's actually in.

825
00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:23,392
[reporter] He's in detox
after a cocaine and alcohol-fueled party

826
00:43:23,475 --> 00:43:25,603
a witness says lasted for days.

827
00:43:25,686 --> 00:43:28,981
[witness] I've never seen someone
so self-destructive.

828
00:43:29,064 --> 00:43:32,359
I thought maybe it was
almost like a suicide binge.

829
00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:37,489
We were all sure that he had OD'd
and that he was probably very near death.

830
00:43:37,573 --> 00:43:39,074
And it was terrifying.

831
00:43:40,034 --> 00:43:43,954
But he just kept saying,
"No, I'm in the hospital now,

832
00:43:44,038 --> 00:43:45,956
but next week I'll be ready for the show."

833
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,418
Guy eventually shows up,
and he opens up his bag,

834
00:43:49,501 --> 00:43:55,799
and he just dumps open,
I'd say about five, maybe about this big.

835
00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:59,970
-A tennis ball size?
-A tennis ball size of cocaine.

836
00:44:00,554 --> 00:44:05,017
I'd party with him for weeks at a time,
which turned into months.

837
00:44:05,517 --> 00:44:08,854
And sometimes it just--
My body just wouldn't take it no more,

838
00:44:08,937 --> 00:44:11,774
and I would go home
and sleep for a week or two.

839
00:44:11,857 --> 00:44:14,276
And then when I would go back to party,

840
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,404
he was still partying every single night.

841
00:44:17,488 --> 00:44:20,199
I thought to myself,
"Damn, this guy's not human."

842
00:44:20,282 --> 00:44:21,992
Charlie Sheen's biology,

843
00:44:22,076 --> 00:44:27,039
whether you're talking about that or just
surviving the kind of stuff that he has,

844
00:44:28,248 --> 00:44:30,584
it's a different chemical reaction.

845
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:35,631
And I think that there is something
biologically different about him.

846
00:44:37,049 --> 00:44:39,468
We're all sort of--
We're looking at each other like,

847
00:44:39,551 --> 00:44:45,224
how do you deal with this, with somebody
so intent on bringing themselves down?

848
00:44:45,307 --> 00:44:48,727
And he did this interview with Alex Jones,

849
00:44:48,811 --> 00:44:50,145
and I was stunned.

850
00:44:50,229 --> 00:44:53,273
[Charlie] Let me just say this.
It's nothing this side of deplorable

851
00:44:53,357 --> 00:44:56,819
that a certain Chaim Levine,
yeah, that's Chuck's real name,

852
00:44:56,902 --> 00:45:00,823
mistook this rock star
for his own selfish exit strategy, bro.

853
00:45:00,906 --> 00:45:04,868
I later found out part of the reason
he was going on those crazy rants

854
00:45:04,952 --> 00:45:07,079
was that he was using testosterone,

855
00:45:07,162 --> 00:45:10,791
um, that that combined with the drugs
that he was doing at the same time,

856
00:45:10,874 --> 00:45:13,585
and drinking,
which he was all doing again,

857
00:45:14,169 --> 00:45:16,672
led him to just go
on these manic episodes.

858
00:45:16,755 --> 00:45:19,591
I mean, my testosterone
was probably like 4,000.

859
00:45:20,467 --> 00:45:23,220
Normal high is like 710.

860
00:45:24,012 --> 00:45:28,726
So yeah, that put me into crazy brain.
Fucking crazy brain.

861
00:45:28,809 --> 00:45:31,687
I'm a peaceful man with bad intentions.

862
00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:34,064
Okay, last I checked, Chaim,

863
00:45:34,148 --> 00:45:36,692
I've spent, I think,
close to the last decade,

864
00:45:36,775 --> 00:45:41,530
I don't know, effortlessly and magically
converting your tin can into pure gold.

865
00:45:41,613 --> 00:45:45,242
He's the cool guy you want to hang with.
There's something magical about the man.

866
00:45:45,325 --> 00:45:49,747
All that went away
and was replaced by, you know,

867
00:45:50,706 --> 00:45:52,541
what one might call a disease.

868
00:45:52,624 --> 00:45:57,629
What I've come to really embrace
in all this time since,

869
00:45:58,464 --> 00:46:03,135
so much of the anger in my personal life,
and the anger and the frustration

870
00:46:03,218 --> 00:46:06,305
of two failed marriages
and four new children,

871
00:46:06,388 --> 00:46:11,101
and just never-- not finding
any real success in those pursuits, um,

872
00:46:12,102 --> 00:46:14,146
I decided to take out on Chuck.

873
00:46:14,229 --> 00:46:18,233
And Chuck took it upon himself
to shut the show down.

874
00:46:18,817 --> 00:46:21,487
[Charlie] Are you taping this?
Are you taping everything now?

875
00:46:22,446 --> 00:46:25,032
I have to go look at it and decide.

876
00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:27,659
What's up?

877
00:46:27,743 --> 00:46:28,702
[tense music playing]

878
00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:31,371
-I got terminated by Warner Bros.
-[Tony] My phone's going crazy.

879
00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:34,124
So is mine. This guy says,
"Any words for Warner Bros?"

880
00:46:34,208 --> 00:46:36,251
I said, "See you at Fort Knox."

881
00:46:36,335 --> 00:46:39,963
"That's the only place with enough gold
to pay off your treasonous ways." Winner!

882
00:46:40,547 --> 00:46:42,382
Fired! Fired!

883
00:46:42,466 --> 00:46:43,801
[Tony] Congratulations.

884
00:46:43,884 --> 00:46:46,220
Give it up! Fuck that show, man.

885
00:46:46,303 --> 00:46:48,388
That show was beneath me
the fucking time I was there.

886
00:46:48,472 --> 00:46:50,390
They never understood
the fucking genius they had.

887
00:46:50,474 --> 00:46:53,227
They abused it, then dismissed it,
and now they're gonna lose.

888
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:55,229
Because they're not…

889
00:46:55,896 --> 00:46:57,231
winning!

890
00:46:58,232 --> 00:47:00,818
[Tony] By the studio telling him no,

891
00:47:00,901 --> 00:47:03,987
I think that took
his addiction to a higher level.

892
00:47:05,072 --> 00:47:07,699
And he's just like,
"Well, okay, I'll show them."

893
00:47:08,408 --> 00:47:10,369
[Charlie] It's the weapon of the troll.

894
00:47:11,912 --> 00:47:14,957
Okay. I'll use it against him one day.

895
00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:19,837
Find a way to harness it
into 50-caliber strafing runs.

896
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,338
[photographer] Charlie!

897
00:47:21,421 --> 00:47:23,841
[crowd cheering]

898
00:47:24,633 --> 00:47:25,467
Bring it.

899
00:47:25,551 --> 00:47:26,969
[crowd] Bring it!

900
00:47:27,678 --> 00:47:29,471
[man] Tony Todd for president!

901
00:47:29,555 --> 00:47:32,474
So much of the public were cheering it on.

902
00:47:32,558 --> 00:47:34,685
[fan 1] You're my hero, Charlie! My hero!

903
00:47:34,768 --> 00:47:37,396
[cheering]

904
00:47:37,479 --> 00:47:40,649
People get excited
by train wrecks, unfortunately.

905
00:47:40,732 --> 00:47:43,318
-[fan 2] What do you say, Charlie?
-If I knew, I'd be wearing it.

906
00:47:43,402 --> 00:47:44,736
[fans cheering]

907
00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:46,488
[fan 2] Way to go, Charlie.
You're a champ!

908
00:47:46,572 --> 00:47:48,156
They wanted to see the train wreck

909
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:51,618
because we were in this new age
where they could see all of it.

910
00:47:51,702 --> 00:47:54,079
Now that I have
your lazy fucking attention, world,

911
00:47:54,162 --> 00:47:57,165
sit back and rejoice,
for the Malibu Messiah,

912
00:47:57,249 --> 00:47:58,542
the condor of Calabasas,

913
00:47:58,625 --> 00:48:01,336
the fucking warlock of your jealous face
sits before you.

914
00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:03,714
God knows, you offer it,
people will take it.

915
00:48:03,797 --> 00:48:06,383
And take it and take it and take it.

916
00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:09,261
[announcer] Charlie Sheen,
in his own words.

917
00:48:09,344 --> 00:48:10,762
ABC's Andrea Canning

918
00:48:10,846 --> 00:48:13,849
was the first to sit down with him
this past Saturday morning.

919
00:48:13,932 --> 00:48:17,269
There with him, as our cameras
started rolling at 5:30 in the morning,

920
00:48:17,352 --> 00:48:20,272
and he sweated
through an intense morning workout.

921
00:48:20,355 --> 00:48:24,860
And at the end of our shooting,
we wondered, as you no doubt will,

922
00:48:24,943 --> 00:48:26,403
what did we just witness

923
00:48:26,486 --> 00:48:29,907
and what will happen next
to Charlie Sheen and his family?

924
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:33,744
All these radio rants have people thinking

925
00:48:33,827 --> 00:48:36,038
Charlie Sheen has got
to be on drugs again.

926
00:48:36,121 --> 00:48:38,040
Sure. Yeah.

927
00:48:38,123 --> 00:48:41,668
Yeah, I-I-I am on a drug.
It's called Charlie Sheen. [chuckles]

928
00:48:41,752 --> 00:48:45,172
It's not available 'cause
if you try it once, you will die.

929
00:48:45,255 --> 00:48:48,425
Your face will melt off, and your children
will weep over your exploded body.

930
00:48:48,508 --> 00:48:49,635
Um… too much.

931
00:48:49,718 --> 00:48:52,888
It was stupid. It's embarrassing, um…

932
00:48:52,971 --> 00:48:55,849
Get him off camera,
keep him indoors, get him some help.

933
00:48:55,933 --> 00:49:00,354
Put this train
back in the station immediately.

934
00:49:00,437 --> 00:49:03,899
Not just on the tracks,
bring it in for repair.

935
00:49:03,982 --> 00:49:06,735
-Tell me, last time you took drugs.
-Last time I took drugs?

936
00:49:06,818 --> 00:49:10,489
I probably took more
than anybody could survive, you know?

937
00:49:10,572 --> 00:49:12,282
What are we talking about? How much?

938
00:49:12,366 --> 00:49:15,243
I don't know. I was banging
seven-gram rocks and finishing them

939
00:49:15,327 --> 00:49:18,163
because that's how I roll.
I have one speed, one gear, "Go!"

940
00:49:18,246 --> 00:49:21,541
When Charlie said
that he was smoking seven-gram rocks,

941
00:49:21,625 --> 00:49:23,460
he was smoking seven-gram rocks.

942
00:49:23,543 --> 00:49:24,920
I've seen it with my own eyes.

943
00:49:25,003 --> 00:49:28,173
-How do you survive that?
-Because I-- Because I'm me.

944
00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:31,802
I'm me, I'm different.
I have a different constitution,

945
00:49:31,885 --> 00:49:35,222
I have a different brain, different heart.
A different-- Tiger blood, man.

946
00:49:35,305 --> 00:49:36,723
There's a handful of people--

947
00:49:36,807 --> 00:49:41,937
In fact, most of the people that were
at my level or Charlie's level are dead.

948
00:49:42,521 --> 00:49:44,398
We are like the last…

949
00:49:45,857 --> 00:49:46,858
survivors.

950
00:49:46,942 --> 00:49:50,612
If he had cancer,
how would we treat him, you know?

951
00:49:50,696 --> 00:49:54,491
The disease of addiction
is a… is a form of cancer.

952
00:49:54,574 --> 00:49:56,535
I don't care if it's my dad,
a guy down the street,

953
00:49:56,618 --> 00:49:58,912
or someone that fell out of the sky.

954
00:49:58,996 --> 00:50:02,207
No interest. I don't care if he's my dad.
Back off with your judgment.

955
00:50:02,290 --> 00:50:04,668
You know,
he just made the choices he made,

956
00:50:05,335 --> 00:50:09,131
and, um, I don't know if he knew what
the consequences would be or anything.

957
00:50:09,214 --> 00:50:11,675
Aren't you getting that
I'm not interested in the past at all?

958
00:50:11,758 --> 00:50:15,137
It's just part of who you are,
and what's led to this place, so…

959
00:50:15,220 --> 00:50:17,848
Yeah, kinda, but that's another
paradigm I'd like to smash.

960
00:50:17,931 --> 00:50:19,224
It got away from me.

961
00:50:19,307 --> 00:50:23,311
We win so radically in our underwear
before our first coffee, it's scary.

962
00:50:23,395 --> 00:50:25,480
[reporter] Sheen calls them his goddesses.

963
00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:27,149
Are you anti-Semitic?

964
00:50:27,232 --> 00:50:30,610
No. No, I'm not. Why would I be?
I mean, based on what? No, that's--

965
00:50:30,694 --> 00:50:33,321
That's a mindset
that I would never entertain.

966
00:50:33,405 --> 00:50:36,241
[Andrea] He goes by the name Chuck Lorre.
His real name is Charles Levine.

967
00:50:36,324 --> 00:50:38,618
-[Charlie] Right.
-You chose to call him Chaim Levine.

968
00:50:38,702 --> 00:50:42,205
You took the Hebrew version,
which I think people were wondering,

969
00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:43,540
why would he do that?

970
00:50:43,623 --> 00:50:45,834
I read it off the vanity card,
said it as a joke.

971
00:50:45,917 --> 00:50:47,502
I didn't make a big deal about it.

972
00:50:47,586 --> 00:50:49,046
[reporter] Sheen says he saw the name

973
00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:53,133
on one of the title cards Lorre inserts
at the end of each episode of the show

974
00:50:53,216 --> 00:50:54,968
and was simply trying to be funny.

975
00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:57,512
It got away from me, and the public outcry

976
00:50:57,596 --> 00:51:01,183
to keep it percolating,
to keep it thriving, to keep it crazy,

977
00:51:01,266 --> 00:51:03,560
was where I was taking my cues.

978
00:51:03,643 --> 00:51:06,063
Your passion is coming off
as erratic to people.

979
00:51:06,146 --> 00:51:08,482
Well, you borrow my brain for five seconds

980
00:51:08,565 --> 00:51:11,151
and be like, "Dude, can't handle it.
Unplug this bastard."

981
00:51:11,234 --> 00:51:14,988
Yeah, because it
fires in a way that is, um, I don't know,

982
00:51:15,072 --> 00:51:20,285
maybe not from this particular
terrestrial realm. You know?

983
00:51:20,911 --> 00:51:23,830
When you got tiger blood
and Adonis DNA, man, it's like…

984
00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:25,165
Get with the program, dude.

985
00:51:25,248 --> 00:51:27,334
You've been given magic, gold.

986
00:51:28,001 --> 00:51:33,173
It was intoxicating
the response to that one interview.

987
00:51:33,256 --> 00:51:35,467
Charlie Sheen is getting
more popular by the day.

988
00:51:35,550 --> 00:51:39,763
He gained more than one million followers
on Twitter in 24 hours.

989
00:51:39,846 --> 00:51:42,015
[reporter] It's the "Sheening" of America.

990
00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:43,517
We're "Sheening" our heads off.

991
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,312
Sorry, middle America.
Losers. Winning. Bye-bye.

992
00:51:47,395 --> 00:51:51,108
[reporter] Sirius Radio devoted
an entire channel to him for a day.

993
00:51:51,191 --> 00:51:52,692
[announcer] Tiger Blood Radio.

994
00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:55,570
[CNN reporter] The Bakersfield Condors
hosted Charlie Sheen Night.

995
00:51:55,654 --> 00:51:58,365
Buy one, get one Tiger's Blood Icees
and snow cones,

996
00:51:58,448 --> 00:52:01,827
and "Dress up like Charlie,
get in for two and a half bucks."

997
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:03,411
-Winning.
-Just winning.

998
00:52:03,495 --> 00:52:04,955
Winning, duh!

999
00:52:05,038 --> 00:52:06,832
[all] Duh, winning!

1000
00:52:06,915 --> 00:52:10,127
The troubled star continuing
his assault on pop culture.

1001
00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:13,713
Kind of a gnarly image. I'm burning
my own face, but I can't feel the heat.

1002
00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:17,467
But it's his references
to warlocks, and himself as one,

1003
00:52:17,551 --> 00:52:20,554
that has some people
in Salem a little upset.

1004
00:52:20,637 --> 00:52:24,099
You shall speak
the names of the craft no more.

1005
00:52:24,182 --> 00:52:26,101
Charlie Sheen is not a warlock,

1006
00:52:26,184 --> 00:52:30,188
for a warlock is a wise person who
understands the ways of the spirit world.

1007
00:52:30,272 --> 00:52:32,899
Duh, winning. Winning.

1008
00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:34,526
♪ I'm winning, I'm winning ♪

1009
00:52:34,609 --> 00:52:35,986
♪ Winning, winning ♪

1010
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:41,199
[reporter] As one poster on TMZ put it,
"Parents, make your kids watch this."

1011
00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:44,286
"If that doesn't scare them
away from drugs, nothing will."

1012
00:52:44,369 --> 00:52:47,831
[Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries"
from Die Walküre builds and climaxes]

1013
00:52:49,708 --> 00:52:52,544
I went over to the computer
and pulled the cord out.

1014
00:52:52,627 --> 00:52:53,962
Went over to the thing,

1015
00:52:54,045 --> 00:52:56,381
turned off social media,
turned off all of it.

1016
00:52:57,215 --> 00:53:02,345
You know, had to just keep
the faith and the thought

1017
00:53:02,429 --> 00:53:04,973
that he knows we love him.

1018
00:53:05,807 --> 00:53:07,392
We know he loves us.

1019
00:53:08,351 --> 00:53:09,644
Hopefully that's enough.

1020
00:53:09,728 --> 00:53:11,646
[reporter] Police removed
his twins from the home,

1021
00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:14,107
prompted by a restraining order
from his ex-wife.

1022
00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:17,068
The incident was caught on tape
by Radar Online.

1023
00:53:17,777 --> 00:53:20,780
With the boys, they didn't have anyone,

1024
00:53:20,864 --> 00:53:25,035
and I'm like, "It's either that
or they end up in foster care."

1025
00:53:25,118 --> 00:53:27,787
So I took them for almost a year.

1026
00:53:27,871 --> 00:53:30,123
[reporter] What about as a dad?
Your kids were taken away.

1027
00:53:30,207 --> 00:53:31,666
Are you hurting at all?

1028
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:35,128
Uh… Yes, I am, but, uh, on a battlefield,

1029
00:53:35,212 --> 00:53:39,591
it's emotion and ego and panic
that-that-that get in your way.

1030
00:53:40,175 --> 00:53:44,804
I was pursuing a lifestyle
that didn't fit the reality.

1031
00:53:46,014 --> 00:53:48,683
There was a huge lawsuit
at the time with the studio.

1032
00:53:48,767 --> 00:53:52,646
And so they were hanging on
to a bunch of dough that they owed me.

1033
00:53:52,729 --> 00:53:55,232
And I had, you know, bills to pay,

1034
00:53:55,315 --> 00:53:58,818
child support, all that fucking shit,
and I couldn't pay it.

1035
00:53:58,902 --> 00:54:01,988
My managers approached me and said,
"We got a call from Live Nation,

1036
00:54:02,072 --> 00:54:04,866
and they're curious
if you'd like to do a tour?"

1037
00:54:05,659 --> 00:54:07,369
I was like, "A tour of what?"

1038
00:54:07,994 --> 00:54:11,831
[reporter] The troubled actor is taking
his bizarre behavior out on the road

1039
00:54:11,915 --> 00:54:15,835
for Charlie Sheen Live:
My Violent Torpedo of Truth.

1040
00:54:15,919 --> 00:54:17,254
What your name is synonymous,

1041
00:54:17,337 --> 00:54:19,714
and I don't mean this
in a negative way, is trouble.

1042
00:54:19,798 --> 00:54:23,134
And I think, like, Torpedoes of Truth
is so brilliant because it's like--

1043
00:54:23,218 --> 00:54:24,928
It just sounds exciting.

1044
00:54:25,011 --> 00:54:28,265
I think you are an American outlaw.

1045
00:54:28,348 --> 00:54:31,184
I think the reason you got
more Twitter followers

1046
00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:33,603
than anybody on the planet is that.

1047
00:54:34,896 --> 00:54:37,941
-Hold on the lights. Stand here.
-We're ready to go?

1048
00:54:38,024 --> 00:54:39,901
[lively music playing]

1049
00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:43,655
[cheering]

1050
00:55:13,601 --> 00:55:15,729
[Jon] I think a lot of people
in the audience

1051
00:55:15,812 --> 00:55:18,315
enjoyed Charlie Sheen vicariously.

1052
00:55:19,607 --> 00:55:22,152
That he's living the life that they want,

1053
00:55:22,235 --> 00:55:24,237
and a lot of them enjoyed the fact

1054
00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:27,532
that he could have
the highest-paying job on the Earth,

1055
00:55:27,615 --> 00:55:31,661
say this to his boss,
say this to his boss's boss,

1056
00:55:31,745 --> 00:55:36,499
give everybody the finger, live his life,
do every bit of drugs that he wanted,

1057
00:55:36,583 --> 00:55:40,587
and they were mad
that anybody was holding him to a limit.

1058
00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:44,424
That anybody was stopping him,
really pissed them off.

1059
00:55:46,718 --> 00:55:49,179
This looks pretty good. I'll eat that.

1060
00:55:49,262 --> 00:55:50,138
Whatever.

1061
00:55:51,931 --> 00:55:55,894
You know, untreated crazy over time
doesn't get better. It gets fucking worse.

1062
00:55:56,394 --> 00:55:59,939
What do you say to the people
who say that you're crazy or bipolar?

1063
00:56:00,023 --> 00:56:02,233
-You address it in the show…
-They don't know me.

1064
00:56:02,317 --> 00:56:04,277
[crowd cheering]

1065
00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:06,363
[tango music playing]

1066
00:56:12,494 --> 00:56:14,371
I was called bipolar.

1067
00:56:17,832 --> 00:56:20,668
Well, you guys know
I'm bi-winning, right? Yeah.

1068
00:56:20,752 --> 00:56:23,588
[crowd cheering]

1069
00:56:23,671 --> 00:56:26,716
I'm not sure what the fuck
"bipolar" even means.

1070
00:56:27,926 --> 00:56:32,389
[Charlie] Or I let that thing take me.
In these 100 days, maybe?

1071
00:56:32,972 --> 00:56:36,393
It's 100 days that
really fucking hurt the people I love.

1072
00:56:36,476 --> 00:56:38,311
Put them through a lot of shit.

1073
00:56:38,395 --> 00:56:40,397
That was very hard to be in school

1074
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,443
because I would hear about things
that I didn't even really know.

1075
00:56:45,527 --> 00:56:47,737
I never really felt normal at school.

1076
00:56:47,821 --> 00:56:52,867
I don't really have any friends
from school except for, like, one.

1077
00:56:52,951 --> 00:56:55,745
Rock on, Charlie Sheen.

1078
00:56:56,496 --> 00:56:57,914
Winning!

1079
00:56:57,997 --> 00:56:59,999
"Yeah, you know,
he's a breath of fresh air."

1080
00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:05,046
Like, no, he's a guy who got everything
he ever wanted from this business,

1081
00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:08,007
he just lost it,
and he's having a tantrum.

1082
00:57:08,091 --> 00:57:10,552
This whole thing happened because, uh…

1083
00:57:11,636 --> 00:57:13,430
because I told my boss to fuck off.

1084
00:57:13,513 --> 00:57:14,514
[woman] Yeah!

1085
00:57:15,098 --> 00:57:16,891
In so many words.

1086
00:57:17,892 --> 00:57:19,602
It feels weird.

1087
00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:22,105
It feels like I'm watching somebody else.

1088
00:57:22,605 --> 00:57:26,651
And I don't look at that stuff by design.

1089
00:57:27,152 --> 00:57:28,027
Um…

1090
00:57:28,528 --> 00:57:32,866
It just creates such…
The shame shivers, you know.

1091
00:57:32,949 --> 00:57:35,618
-[announcer] Did you have a good time?
-Show sucks!

1092
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,537
Should've worn Kevlar tonight.

1093
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:39,622
New York's tougher. LA's the toughest.

1094
00:57:39,706 --> 00:57:43,042
[crew member] The good news is Chicago's
his number one city for Twitter fans.

1095
00:57:43,126 --> 00:57:44,627
They're there to fucking see him.

1096
00:57:44,711 --> 00:57:47,088
There's an old movie
called Weekend at Bernie's.

1097
00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:49,466
The dead guy…

1098
00:57:49,549 --> 00:57:53,303
And there were times where
it made me sad going to Charlie's house

1099
00:57:53,386 --> 00:57:55,472
when he would have
a bunch of people around,

1100
00:57:55,555 --> 00:57:59,142
and I felt at times they would just
prop him up, get him to sign shit.

1101
00:57:59,225 --> 00:58:01,519
[man] Can I get some room, please?
We need some room.

1102
00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:03,188
-Back up.
-[clamoring]

1103
00:58:03,271 --> 00:58:05,648
[Tony] Was he in any condition
to be out there like that?

1104
00:58:05,732 --> 00:58:06,733
No.

1105
00:58:07,609 --> 00:58:08,776
I don't think so.

1106
00:58:08,860 --> 00:58:13,448
You want to see
a certain… creature, if you will.

1107
00:58:13,531 --> 00:58:19,537
You want to see a certain bad person
doing crazy, insane, bad shit

1108
00:58:19,621 --> 00:58:25,835
and glamorizing it
in some bizarre way and feeding it,

1109
00:58:25,919 --> 00:58:28,922
and then at the same time, um, demonizing.

1110
00:58:29,005 --> 00:58:31,841
[crowd booing]

1111
00:58:31,925 --> 00:58:34,302
Everybody in every other city
that bought tickets,

1112
00:58:34,385 --> 00:58:35,887
you just lost your money.

1113
00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:38,097
-He ain't gonna show up.
-He's losing!

1114
00:58:38,181 --> 00:58:39,349
Charlie sucks!

1115
00:58:39,432 --> 00:58:42,185
That would've been nice,
if somebody had stepped in, like,

1116
00:58:42,268 --> 00:58:44,729
"Whoa, hey, whoa, this is not…"

1117
00:58:45,772 --> 00:58:50,902
"This is not a spectacle
for everyone's folly."

1118
00:58:51,402 --> 00:58:53,112
"This is a man that's in trouble."

1119
00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:56,407
It was a bunch of babble
that no one could even understand.

1120
00:58:56,491 --> 00:58:58,034
It was so stupid.

1121
00:58:58,117 --> 00:59:01,371
I feel sorry for anyone who pays
for these tickets for other cities.

1122
00:59:01,454 --> 00:59:04,499
If one more fucking person tells me,
"Just tell stories,"

1123
00:59:04,582 --> 00:59:06,626
I'm gonna tell the story of their firing.

1124
00:59:07,335 --> 00:59:10,630
But again, you know,
I had to agree to all that shit.

1125
00:59:10,713 --> 00:59:13,925
You know, I… lit the fuse.

1126
00:59:14,467 --> 00:59:17,971
I kind of had to deal with the concussion,

1127
00:59:18,721 --> 00:59:20,056
the size of the blast.

1128
00:59:20,139 --> 00:59:22,141
[camera shutters clicking]

1129
00:59:22,809 --> 00:59:25,019
[man] That's it. All right. Next group.

1130
00:59:25,103 --> 00:59:28,940
People excel at hypocrisy,
and trending thought,

1131
00:59:29,023 --> 00:59:33,611
and being part of a pack
that is better than, is more than.

1132
00:59:33,695 --> 00:59:36,072
And destruction…

1133
00:59:37,907 --> 00:59:41,244
I don't think it adds
to anybody's happiness.

1134
00:59:41,327 --> 00:59:44,163
But it's very stimulating when you do it.

1135
00:59:44,247 --> 00:59:46,624
People are looking for that stimulation,

1136
00:59:46,708 --> 00:59:48,418
and on the other side of it,

1137
00:59:49,544 --> 00:59:51,671
things get injured, like Charlie.

1138
00:59:52,505 --> 00:59:56,175
And he'll be the first to say
he took part in that.

1139
00:59:58,428 --> 00:59:59,846
[Charlie] When that tour ended, man,

1140
00:59:59,929 --> 01:00:05,101
I had a ton of shit
I had to suffocate, I had to drown.

1141
01:00:06,561 --> 01:00:11,524
And, I wanted to disappear.

1142
01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:17,238
I just wanted to get into a dark room
with a bag of dope and not come out.

1143
01:00:17,322 --> 01:00:19,324
[uneasy music playing]

1144
01:00:21,117 --> 01:00:23,411
[Tony] He was just really, you know,
effed up at the time,

1145
01:00:23,494 --> 01:00:27,290
and, uh, he would start crying.
I would just give him a hug, like,

1146
01:00:27,373 --> 01:00:31,377
"Hey, man. I'm here for you, man.
Bottom line, I'm here for you."

1147
01:00:32,754 --> 01:00:35,173
[Charlie] Tony Todd,
he was always a friend.

1148
01:00:35,715 --> 01:00:37,133
And a true one.

1149
01:00:39,469 --> 01:00:45,391
I was there just trying to support him
and just be by his side, man.

1150
01:00:45,975 --> 01:00:48,186
[Charlie] He would get criticism
from different people

1151
01:00:48,269 --> 01:00:52,190
about that he was just around me
for the fun shit, you know,

1152
01:00:52,273 --> 01:00:55,276
for the bonuses
and the trips and all this stuff.

1153
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,779
But I think he went also knowing

1154
01:00:57,862 --> 01:01:03,034
that this group ain't going to handle
any of the stuff that I'll be looking for.

1155
01:01:03,117 --> 01:01:08,665
You know, I was glad that he was there,
down the hall, in case some shit went bad.

1156
01:01:08,748 --> 01:01:14,587
But I did always feel he deserved to be
in the presence of just better things.

1157
01:01:15,338 --> 01:01:19,801
I mean, it's been nights
where he kicks everyone out of the house.

1158
01:01:19,884 --> 01:01:22,512
"Everyone, get out."
But I'm there. I'm still there.

1159
01:01:24,681 --> 01:01:28,976
When I was staying at his place,
I always had the closest room to him.

1160
01:01:30,186 --> 01:01:32,939
Of course, in the back of my mind,
I always thought that,

1161
01:01:33,022 --> 01:01:37,318
"Man, one day, I'm just going to walk
in that room and he's gonna be gone."

1162
01:01:37,944 --> 01:01:42,323
He's gonna be gone, and I don't know
how I would be able to take that, but…

1163
01:01:45,702 --> 01:01:47,370
I… I… I…

1164
01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:51,374
I just couldn't leave.

1165
01:01:51,457 --> 01:01:54,669
I couldn't leave,
and I don't think he wanted me to leave.

1166
01:01:54,752 --> 01:02:00,341
You know, as a friend, man,
I can't let this person die on my watch.

1167
01:02:03,678 --> 01:02:05,722
Oh, man. Sorry, I just…

1168
01:02:05,805 --> 01:02:07,557
[interviewer] It's a big story,
you know? So…

1169
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,685
It's tough, man. I was getting ready
to break down right there, man.

1170
01:02:10,768 --> 01:02:12,562
He got really sick.

1171
01:02:12,645 --> 01:02:15,898
He thought it was
because he was detoxing from coke,

1172
01:02:15,982 --> 01:02:20,486
and I said, "No, I've seen you
detox before. This ain't it."

1173
01:02:20,570 --> 01:02:22,822
The kind of fucking pain I was in,
and Denise,

1174
01:02:22,905 --> 01:02:28,035
I don't know if she spoke to this or not,
but headache and full body sweat that…

1175
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:32,248
that… shouldn't exist
while you're still alive.

1176
01:02:32,331 --> 01:02:36,544
I go, "There's something wrong,"
and I said, "I don't want to scare you,

1177
01:02:36,627 --> 01:02:40,757
but when was the last time
you have been tested for HIV?"

1178
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,342
I thought it was meningitis, brain cancer.

1179
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:46,387
I thought it was
stomach, liver, some fucking--

1180
01:02:46,471 --> 01:02:51,684
Something where they were going to walk in
and say, "Get your affairs in order."

1181
01:02:51,768 --> 01:02:56,439
And when they didn't say that,
when they said it, the HIV diagnosis,

1182
01:02:56,522 --> 01:02:59,150
I was kind of fucking relieved,

1183
01:02:59,817 --> 01:03:02,695
because I knew that
the technology and the medicine

1184
01:03:02,779 --> 01:03:08,284
had gotten to a place where you can live,
you can have a normal freaking life, um…

1185
01:03:08,367 --> 01:03:11,746
And in some cases,
it's more treatable than diabetes.

1186
01:03:12,246 --> 01:03:15,792
I'd already had five friends
with the same situation.

1187
01:03:15,875 --> 01:03:17,627
I had to keep it to myself.

1188
01:03:17,710 --> 01:03:21,130
I didn't have to sign like an NDA
or anything, but had to keep it to myself.

1189
01:03:21,214 --> 01:03:25,051
And I was happy to keep it to myself.
I didn't think it was anyone's business.

1190
01:03:25,635 --> 01:03:28,304
The advice I was being given at the time

1191
01:03:28,387 --> 01:03:30,932
spoke to keep this under wraps.

1192
01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:33,309
As long as possible.

1193
01:03:33,392 --> 01:03:37,021
I don't think any of us thought
that Charlie would survive it.

1194
01:03:37,688 --> 01:03:41,567
It was that bad,
and his body was breaking down.

1195
01:03:41,651 --> 01:03:43,319
Everything. It was terrible.

1196
01:03:43,402 --> 01:03:45,863
He… he knew he was loved.

1197
01:03:46,364 --> 01:03:47,281
Through all of that.

1198
01:03:47,365 --> 01:03:52,286
It increases. It's just more outreach,
more love, more support.

1199
01:03:52,370 --> 01:03:53,412
Um…

1200
01:03:53,496 --> 01:03:57,041
No shame, no judging.
It's just, you're here.

1201
01:03:57,124 --> 01:03:59,126
You're loved. Let's move forward.

1202
01:03:59,210 --> 01:04:03,923
In that moment,
I should've become a fucking vegetarian,

1203
01:04:04,006 --> 01:04:06,384
and instead I became a "cracketarian."

1204
01:04:07,468 --> 01:04:09,303
You know, stupidly.

1205
01:04:09,387 --> 01:04:11,472
I just became very fond of him.

1206
01:04:11,556 --> 01:04:14,433
Like, "Damn, that's my bro right there."

1207
01:04:14,517 --> 01:04:17,812
"I can't let that dude die.
He's too fucking cool." You know?

1208
01:04:17,895 --> 01:04:22,024
His drug counselor at the time told me,

1209
01:04:22,108 --> 01:04:25,736
"Is there any way that
you can make it less potent for him?"

1210
01:04:25,820 --> 01:04:27,446
And I told him, "I'll try."

1211
01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:29,657
So, little by little,

1212
01:04:29,740 --> 01:04:34,829
I started to reduce the amount of cocaine
that I was using to cook the crack.

1213
01:04:34,912 --> 01:04:38,624
It looked exactly the same,
but it was just less potent.

1214
01:04:38,708 --> 01:04:42,378
In my mind, I was purchasing
and going through the same amount,

1215
01:04:42,461 --> 01:04:47,967
but the percentage
was being gradually reduced.

1216
01:04:48,050 --> 01:04:53,472
So they were trying
to get me off of crack by making

1217
01:04:54,682 --> 01:04:56,309
weaker crack.

1218
01:04:56,392 --> 01:05:00,771
It took about a good… year and a half,

1219
01:05:00,855 --> 01:05:03,274
but that's how he got sober.

1220
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,362
He actually just got tired
of smoking bunk crack,

1221
01:05:09,071 --> 01:05:11,282
which he thought was good crack,

1222
01:05:11,365 --> 01:05:13,200
and he just…

1223
01:05:13,993 --> 01:05:15,494
He just stopped doing it.

1224
01:05:15,578 --> 01:05:19,040
He wanted to stop all of a sudden.
He was like, "It's just a waste of time."

1225
01:05:19,123 --> 01:05:21,542
I was quite impressed
when I found out later.

1226
01:05:21,626 --> 01:05:23,210
I didn't know when it was going on.

1227
01:05:23,794 --> 01:05:28,090
Talk about being forced to think
so far out of the box

1228
01:05:28,966 --> 01:05:31,469
that you land on that.

1229
01:05:32,595 --> 01:05:36,265
You know, "He's not going to stop.
That's been established."

1230
01:05:36,766 --> 01:05:41,020
"So… how do we get involved in a way

1231
01:05:41,979 --> 01:05:48,361
that… at least puts him
at, you know, less risk."

1232
01:05:48,444 --> 01:05:51,405
It speaks that I'm savable.

1233
01:05:51,489 --> 01:05:52,698
I'm worth saving.

1234
01:05:52,782 --> 01:05:54,825
[restrained emotional music playing]

1235
01:06:03,918 --> 01:06:05,378
I don't like to think of people

1236
01:06:05,461 --> 01:06:08,464
by the worst thing they've done
and the worst person they've been.

1237
01:06:08,547 --> 01:06:11,717
Um, we're all complicated, we've all
done things we're not proud of,

1238
01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:13,970
and we've all done things that we are, uh…

1239
01:06:14,053 --> 01:06:17,098
And… I try not to judge.

1240
01:06:17,181 --> 01:06:21,936
And seeing, you know, somebody you know
is capable of being a regular guy

1241
01:06:22,019 --> 01:06:26,107
go off into that,
you sort of go, "Oh, okay."

1242
01:06:26,816 --> 01:06:28,109
You know…

1243
01:06:28,192 --> 01:06:33,906
"Something is broken in him
that may not ever be able to be repaired."

1244
01:06:40,454 --> 01:06:42,373
[interviewer] All right. There we go.

1245
01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:47,169
Hey, everybody, we're going
to clear this whole room out entirely

1246
01:06:47,253 --> 01:06:48,921
for this part of the day.

1247
01:06:49,714 --> 01:06:52,425
So everyone's got to be
out of the room, if that's cool.

1248
01:06:52,508 --> 01:06:53,843
Thank you so much.

1249
01:06:56,345 --> 01:06:59,682
Now let's get into all the things
you've never publicly talked about.

1250
01:07:03,185 --> 01:07:06,313
[Charlie] Yeah, last night, knowing that
we were on the eve of doing this,

1251
01:07:06,397 --> 01:07:10,568
and what this part was going to involve,

1252
01:07:10,651 --> 01:07:13,404
I was trying to remember
what the feeling was.

1253
01:07:13,487 --> 01:07:16,115
What was the--
What were the feelings I was…

1254
01:07:17,074 --> 01:07:18,868
that were really familiar.

1255
01:07:18,951 --> 01:07:20,953
And what I connected it to

1256
01:07:21,537 --> 01:07:25,875
was the night before I had to go testify
in the Heidi Fleiss mess.

1257
01:07:26,584 --> 01:07:30,880
And just what was expected of me then,
and what I knew I had to do,

1258
01:07:30,963 --> 01:07:33,382
and what my marching orders were.

1259
01:07:33,466 --> 01:07:35,885
[interviewer] There was a gun held
to your head at that moment.

1260
01:07:35,968 --> 01:07:36,802
Sure.

1261
01:07:36,886 --> 01:07:40,848
And in this situation, you're walking
into that discomfort, right?

1262
01:07:40,931 --> 01:07:44,977
Yes, because, um… just certain things,

1263
01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:49,982
certain, um,
certain behaviors, certain, um,

1264
01:07:50,066 --> 01:07:55,946
instances, memories have just for too long
had too much power over me,

1265
01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:59,784
and I'm tired
of being held hostage by them.

1266
01:08:00,409 --> 01:08:02,703
The Corey Haim allegation,
did that happen?

1267
01:08:02,787 --> 01:08:04,205
Absolute fucking bullshit.

1268
01:08:04,288 --> 01:08:06,749
This is where everybody's
going to, like, pause the doc

1269
01:08:06,832 --> 01:08:10,127
and go find the fucking story,
and go for it, um…

1270
01:08:10,628 --> 01:08:14,548
At that point,
they'll have read more of it than I have.

1271
01:08:14,632 --> 01:08:17,718
[tense music playing]

1272
01:08:22,098 --> 01:08:25,267
[announcer] This is
The Rumor Report with Angela Yee.

1273
01:08:26,268 --> 01:08:29,021
Corey Feldman
had premiered his documentary

1274
01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:30,856
last night at a screening in LA.

1275
01:08:30,940 --> 01:08:33,776
He says that Corey Haim
said actor Charlie Sheen

1276
01:08:33,859 --> 01:08:36,946
had raped him
while they were making the movie Lucas.

1277
01:08:37,029 --> 01:08:39,865
[reporter] In a scene that drew gasps
from the audience at the premiere,

1278
01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:43,202
Feldman names Charlie Sheen
as Haim's alleged rapist.

1279
01:08:44,453 --> 01:08:48,666
I should have taken
legal action against Feldman.

1280
01:08:48,749 --> 01:08:50,835
There's a lot
of good people in this industry.

1281
01:08:50,918 --> 01:08:54,547
But there's also a lot of really sick,
corrupt people in this industry.

1282
01:08:55,381 --> 01:08:59,260
But I didn't feel like, uh,
giving that clown

1283
01:08:59,343 --> 01:09:03,806
that much more… you know, content.

1284
01:09:03,889 --> 01:09:06,517
He just went out of his way
to, like, launch this thing,

1285
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,062
and we were friends back in the day,
or so I thought.

1286
01:09:10,146 --> 01:09:14,942
It's a piece of vile fiction,
is what it is.

1287
01:09:15,693 --> 01:09:19,321
The guy's mom came out and said,
"This is impossible."

1288
01:09:19,405 --> 01:09:20,990
"This is impossible."

1289
01:09:22,449 --> 01:09:25,911
So yeah, no, that one, just, ugh… Blegh.

1290
01:09:25,995 --> 01:09:28,122
Fuck off, you know?

1291
01:09:29,165 --> 01:09:32,001
[news intro music playing]

1292
01:09:32,084 --> 01:09:35,171
[reporter] ET can confirm
ex-porn star Brett Rossi

1293
01:09:35,254 --> 01:09:39,633
is suing her former fiancé, Charlie Sheen,
with the lawsuit claiming

1294
01:09:39,717 --> 01:09:43,470
he hid his HIV-positive status
while they were together.

1295
01:09:43,554 --> 01:09:47,850
[interviewer] You were sued multiple times
for allegedly exposing women to HIV.

1296
01:09:48,350 --> 01:09:51,312
Was there, like, a knowing sexual appetite
when you were diagnosed

1297
01:09:51,395 --> 01:09:53,522
that you weren't
being clear with people about?

1298
01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:56,233
No. No, I was…

1299
01:09:56,942 --> 01:09:58,027
I was up front.

1300
01:09:58,110 --> 01:10:00,487
There are some watching now
who are probably thinking

1301
01:10:00,571 --> 01:10:04,366
having sex with Charlie Sheen
is like playing Russian Roulette.

1302
01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:07,661
Were you worried at all
having unprotected sex with him?

1303
01:10:07,745 --> 01:10:11,123
He was very open with me
initially about this, um…

1304
01:10:11,207 --> 01:10:12,875
I think that's important to note.

1305
01:10:12,958 --> 01:10:15,085
Mm-hmm. So you knew the risks?

1306
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:17,671
Yes, in fact, I did.

1307
01:10:17,755 --> 01:10:21,175
I think it's just a lot of social stigma
that came from back when

1308
01:10:21,258 --> 01:10:24,094
there wasn't treatment for this,
and this was a death sentence.

1309
01:10:24,178 --> 01:10:25,846
Nowadays, it's more of a comorbidity

1310
01:10:25,930 --> 01:10:28,057
if regulated properly
with the right medication.

1311
01:10:28,807 --> 01:10:30,893
And I was wearing condoms and just…

1312
01:10:30,976 --> 01:10:37,816
By then, I was completely undetectable,
so I was checking every fucking box.

1313
01:10:38,484 --> 01:10:44,949
And… they'd be going into the drawers
of my bathroom and photographing my meds,

1314
01:10:45,032 --> 01:10:46,158
you know, and there's only--

1315
01:10:46,242 --> 01:10:50,621
Those meds are only used
for one thing in this life, you know?

1316
01:10:51,121 --> 01:10:55,918
And so they were sitting on,
like, these insurance policies.

1317
01:10:56,001 --> 01:10:58,671
Then I'd stop seeing them
for myriad reasons,

1318
01:10:58,754 --> 01:11:01,715
and um, and then that's
what would come out.

1319
01:11:02,216 --> 01:11:05,844
The threat of,
"We're going to expose your thing."

1320
01:11:05,928 --> 01:11:09,014
I had to pay these-- Pay them.
Pay them more.

1321
01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:11,225
[interviewer] Do you remember
how much money was a part

1322
01:11:11,308 --> 01:11:12,726
of those kinds of transactions?

1323
01:11:13,894 --> 01:11:17,022
Uh, if I got off cheap, it was half a mil.

1324
01:11:17,523 --> 01:11:21,443
-[interviewer] For a single person?
-Yeah, and that was getting off cheap.

1325
01:11:21,527 --> 01:11:24,655
That was getting them to agree,
like, during the first conversation.

1326
01:11:25,281 --> 01:11:28,909
There was one that was 1.4.

1327
01:11:28,993 --> 01:11:31,287
But, you know what, in all the craziness,

1328
01:11:31,370 --> 01:11:35,791
there's only one person
in the entire fucking mix

1329
01:11:35,874 --> 01:11:39,378
that still has this thing,
that has it, period.

1330
01:11:39,461 --> 01:11:40,838
And that's this guy.

1331
01:11:42,006 --> 01:11:43,716
Nobody got this from me.

1332
01:11:45,134 --> 01:11:47,011
Period. The end. Full stop.

1333
01:11:47,511 --> 01:11:53,058
So, whatever anybody was threatening
or what they were claiming on that front

1334
01:11:53,142 --> 01:11:54,935
was absolute fucking bullshit.

1335
01:11:55,019 --> 01:11:57,771
[interviewer] That's important.
You're saying it's never been passed on?

1336
01:11:57,855 --> 01:11:58,814
No.

1337
01:11:58,897 --> 01:11:59,857
Never.

1338
01:12:01,233 --> 01:12:02,067
No.

1339
01:12:05,529 --> 01:12:07,156
[interviewer] So then in your own words,

1340
01:12:07,239 --> 01:12:10,617
tell us where did your sexual journey
ultimately take you.

1341
01:12:15,914 --> 01:12:20,502
[Charlie] The tour is important because
that crack cave I had to go into,

1342
01:12:20,586 --> 01:12:22,588
coming out of the insanity…

1343
01:12:23,547 --> 01:12:24,882
Um…

1344
01:12:24,965 --> 01:12:28,302
that's when a lot
of the hypersexuality occurred.

1345
01:12:28,927 --> 01:12:31,263
I think the best way to describe it is,

1346
01:12:31,347 --> 01:12:34,308
you know, crack is a very--
or base cocaine,

1347
01:12:34,391 --> 01:12:39,104
the higher-brow version of crack,
um, is a very sexual drug.

1348
01:12:39,188 --> 01:12:43,525
And… you know,
if you're looking at a menu,

1349
01:12:44,151 --> 01:12:45,736
at some point,

1350
01:12:46,737 --> 01:12:49,448
you're going to turn
that fucker over. "Oh!"

1351
01:12:50,324 --> 01:12:52,284
"Oh, shit. What's all this?"

1352
01:12:52,868 --> 01:12:53,744
Huh!

1353
01:12:54,536 --> 01:12:56,330
"Yeah, let me start with the…"

1354
01:12:57,081 --> 01:12:59,291
"Let's go with that as an appetizer."

1355
01:12:59,792 --> 01:13:01,001
"You know what?"

1356
01:13:01,627 --> 01:13:04,380
"Yeah, you know,
here's what I'm thinking, um…"

1357
01:13:04,463 --> 01:13:06,965
"Let's just go with one of each."

1358
01:13:07,049 --> 01:13:09,760
"Just bring me the chef's surprise,
you know?"

1359
01:13:09,843 --> 01:13:13,389
So, rather than really talking about
what's on the other side of the menu,

1360
01:13:13,472 --> 01:13:17,601
or what dishes I specifically ordered, um,

1361
01:13:17,684 --> 01:13:21,313
I think there's enough people that are
gonna come out of the fucking woodwork,

1362
01:13:21,397 --> 01:13:26,944
when they hear me present that,
and, you know, claim a lot of stuff.

1363
01:13:27,027 --> 01:13:31,323
And some of it will be true,
other parts of it won't be.

1364
01:13:31,407 --> 01:13:33,534
But at that point it's out of my hands,

1365
01:13:33,617 --> 01:13:39,915
and, uh, I guess I encourage them
to just have at it.

1366
01:13:39,998 --> 01:13:43,293
[introspective music playing]

1367
01:13:43,377 --> 01:13:45,712
[interviewer] This is the first time
you're speaking publicly

1368
01:13:45,796 --> 01:13:47,172
about having sex with men.

1369
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,924
Pretty crazy shit.

1370
01:13:49,007 --> 01:13:50,259
[interviewer] How does it feel?

1371
01:13:50,342 --> 01:13:51,677
It's liberating.

1372
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,929
It's fucking liberating. And it's…

1373
01:13:54,012 --> 01:13:55,681
[interviewer] Finally be able
to say things?

1374
01:13:55,764 --> 01:13:57,099
Just talk about stuff.

1375
01:13:57,182 --> 01:14:01,520
You know, it's like a train didn't come
through the side of the restaurant,

1376
01:14:01,603 --> 01:14:03,689
a fucking piano
didn't fall out of the sky,

1377
01:14:03,772 --> 01:14:05,566
no one ran into the room and shot me.

1378
01:14:05,649 --> 01:14:10,904
And, so, no, it's… uncharted.

1379
01:14:10,988 --> 01:14:16,702
[interviewer] Did the sexual journey
wander into both men and women

1380
01:14:16,785 --> 01:14:20,456
just at that time, because of crack,
or had that been going on for a while?

1381
01:14:20,539 --> 01:14:23,167
-No, that's what started it.
-[interviewer] Oh, okay.

1382
01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:25,085
That's where it was born.

1383
01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:29,173
Or it sparked, and then, you know,

1384
01:14:29,256 --> 01:14:33,260
whatever chunks of time
that I was off the pipe,

1385
01:14:33,343 --> 01:14:37,681
trying to, you know, navigate that,
trying to come to terms with it.

1386
01:14:37,764 --> 01:14:42,978
Like, where did that come from?
Why did that come from…?

1387
01:14:43,061 --> 01:14:45,856
Or why did that happen? You know? Um…

1388
01:14:45,939 --> 01:14:50,235
And then just finally being like, so what?

1389
01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:51,904
So what?

1390
01:14:52,404 --> 01:14:55,866
Some of it was weird.
A lot of it was fucking fun.

1391
01:14:55,949 --> 01:14:59,286
And… life goes on.

1392
01:14:59,369 --> 01:15:01,413
Look at the state of the fucking world.

1393
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,751
Look at the unflushed fucking toilet
that we live in today,

1394
01:15:05,834 --> 01:15:07,669
and where we're headed.

1395
01:15:07,753 --> 01:15:11,006
And, like, this… [chuckles]

1396
01:15:11,089 --> 01:15:15,177
This, the other side of that menu
really fucking matters?

1397
01:15:15,260 --> 01:15:16,887
It really fucking matters?

1398
01:15:16,970 --> 01:15:20,724
So what, someone doesn't hire me
because, "Oh, he did all that shit."

1399
01:15:20,807 --> 01:15:23,060
Whatever.
Didn't want to work with you, anyway.

1400
01:15:23,143 --> 01:15:25,646
[interviewer] It's not as though
you were sitting here being like,

1401
01:15:25,729 --> 01:15:28,315
"I fucking hate that that happened."
You know what I mean?

1402
01:15:28,398 --> 01:15:30,442
Now I want to nuke
the other side of the menu?

1403
01:15:30,526 --> 01:15:34,863
No, I don't. I don't,
because that wouldn't make any sense.

1404
01:15:34,947 --> 01:15:36,865
-Yeah.
-[chuckling] Just doesn't.

1405
01:15:37,366 --> 01:15:39,785
-[interviewer] I think this…
-Nothing rational about that.

1406
01:15:42,246 --> 01:15:44,831
[interviewer] So walk us through
how we end up here today,

1407
01:15:44,915 --> 01:15:46,166
eight years sober.

1408
01:15:46,959 --> 01:15:49,545
[Charlie] I knew
that the hourglass was down

1409
01:15:49,628 --> 01:15:52,798
to its… final few grains, you know?

1410
01:15:52,881 --> 01:15:56,510
That, um, yeah, I could just feel it.

1411
01:15:56,593 --> 01:15:59,137
And I was one of these people
that was still, you know,

1412
01:15:59,221 --> 01:16:03,267
carrying the torch for,
"I'm not doing crack. Not taking pills."

1413
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:05,185
"I'm not doing all that garbage."

1414
01:16:05,269 --> 01:16:07,729
"I'm just going to drink.
I'm just going to drink."

1415
01:16:08,230 --> 01:16:09,064
[exhales]

1416
01:16:09,648 --> 01:16:10,482
-Jaden.
-I'm Charlie.

1417
01:16:10,566 --> 01:16:12,401
-[Jaden] Nice to meet you.
-Sorry I'm hammered.

1418
01:16:12,484 --> 01:16:13,819
-[Jaden] You're cool.
-How are you?

1419
01:16:13,902 --> 01:16:15,195
-[Tamara] How are you?
-Your name?

1420
01:16:15,279 --> 01:16:16,113
Tamara.

1421
01:16:16,196 --> 01:16:17,030
-Tamara?
-Uh-huh.

1422
01:16:17,114 --> 01:16:17,948
-Hi.
-Hi.

1423
01:16:18,031 --> 01:16:18,865
Awesome.

1424
01:16:18,949 --> 01:16:20,158
Wow. Yeah.

1425
01:16:20,242 --> 01:16:24,121
No, that-- I think booze
is the gnarliest drug on the planet.

1426
01:16:24,663 --> 01:16:25,622
You know?

1427
01:16:25,706 --> 01:16:27,541
I had been drinking in the morning,

1428
01:16:27,624 --> 01:16:32,796
and Sam called and said that she had
a hair appointment up in Moorpark,

1429
01:16:32,879 --> 01:16:35,924
you know, and she was 12 or 13.

1430
01:16:36,008 --> 01:16:38,302
And she had to be there in an hour.

1431
01:16:38,385 --> 01:16:40,345
I was like, "Shit!"
I never drank and drove.

1432
01:16:40,429 --> 01:16:44,933
So, Tony was close by, and I said,
"We've got to get Sam up to this thing."

1433
01:16:45,017 --> 01:16:48,145
"I can't drive. Had a few pops."
And he was like, "You got it."

1434
01:16:48,228 --> 01:16:52,816
So we got her up there, we were on time,
and everything was smooth and cool,

1435
01:16:52,899 --> 01:16:55,152
but it was the drive back, you know…

1436
01:16:55,235 --> 01:16:58,530
It was the drive back
that broke my fucking heart.

1437
01:16:58,614 --> 01:16:59,740
Um…

1438
01:17:01,617 --> 01:17:03,952
Because I could see her, like, in the…

1439
01:17:04,036 --> 01:17:06,538
I wasn't driving,
so I couldn't see her in the rearview,

1440
01:17:06,622 --> 01:17:09,750
but I could catch
little pieces of her in the side view.

1441
01:17:09,833 --> 01:17:12,127
And she was just back there, and this is…

1442
01:17:12,210 --> 01:17:15,339
I don't think she was on a device
of any kind, she was just-- I just--

1443
01:17:15,422 --> 01:17:21,178
I knew that she was back there wondering,
"Why isn't this just a me and Dad trip?"

1444
01:17:21,261 --> 01:17:25,432
"Why is Tony involved?"
Nothing about Tony with her or whatever,

1445
01:17:25,515 --> 01:17:30,020
but just about why did
there have to be this added element?

1446
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:34,650
And I'm-- Just the way I felt
in that moment, after that moment,

1447
01:17:34,733 --> 01:17:38,236
thinking back on that moment, it was…
It felt like I'd let her down.

1448
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,864
[emotional music playing]

1449
01:17:42,115 --> 01:17:44,159
I carried that moment forward.

1450
01:17:44,242 --> 01:17:46,620
I just thought, "Okay, what can I do?"

1451
01:17:46,703 --> 01:17:48,914
Scheduled or spontaneous,

1452
01:17:48,997 --> 01:17:52,209
when she or any
of my other kids need something,

1453
01:17:52,292 --> 01:17:53,502
I'm-- I'm the guy.

1454
01:17:53,585 --> 01:17:55,504
I'm the go-to.

1455
01:17:55,587 --> 01:18:00,384
"What can I do to ensure
that that's the case?"

1456
01:18:00,467 --> 01:18:03,095
And it was pretty obvious.

1457
01:18:03,178 --> 01:18:04,429
Quit drinking.

1458
01:18:06,932 --> 01:18:08,850
Let's see where this takes us.

1459
01:18:10,727 --> 01:18:13,438
[old film projector whirring]

1460
01:18:15,607 --> 01:18:18,694
[distorted guitar riff playing]

1461
01:18:26,201 --> 01:18:30,580
Well, I only, like, recently started,
like, living with him and stuff, so…

1462
01:18:32,332 --> 01:18:34,334
We're kind of opposites right now.

1463
01:18:34,418 --> 01:18:35,252
[interviewer] Yeah.

1464
01:18:35,335 --> 01:18:37,295
I forget everything, he remembers, so…

1465
01:18:39,214 --> 01:18:42,426
Like with bottles,
I always open bottles a little bit

1466
01:18:42,509 --> 01:18:44,302
and then don't finish it.

1467
01:18:44,386 --> 01:18:47,013
And then I accidentally
leave the bottle out

1468
01:18:47,097 --> 01:18:50,726
and then get another bottle to drink,
and it drives him crazy.

1469
01:18:53,937 --> 01:18:57,566
Even though a lot of our personalities
are really different,

1470
01:18:57,649 --> 01:19:01,236
they kind of, like, fix, like,
each other's mistakes.

1471
01:19:02,195 --> 01:19:07,033
When she's sober, she's great. So, like,
as long as she's sober, I'm happy, so…

1472
01:19:07,826 --> 01:19:11,455
Her timeline for recovery
is just different from mine.

1473
01:19:11,538 --> 01:19:15,417
That's all, and so, um, you know,

1474
01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:21,089
she's chased the dragon a little longer
than she probably should have, um,

1475
01:19:21,173 --> 01:19:23,550
but she's starting to see that, you know,

1476
01:19:23,633 --> 01:19:26,261
if you keep trading

1477
01:19:27,345 --> 01:19:28,930
people for drugs,

1478
01:19:30,015 --> 01:19:32,476
at some point
you'll just be left with the drugs.

1479
01:19:32,559 --> 01:19:38,565
Yeah, Charlie really stepped up
when my stuff was going dark.

1480
01:19:38,648 --> 01:19:40,525
And it was really dark.

1481
01:19:41,151 --> 01:19:45,822
And, uh, he had all the reasons
not to be there for me.

1482
01:19:45,906 --> 01:19:47,657
'Cause when you're not in your right mind,

1483
01:19:47,741 --> 01:19:50,619
you become a terror
for other people in your life.

1484
01:19:51,119 --> 01:19:52,037
And…

1485
01:19:53,121 --> 01:19:55,457
now he's taken the role

1486
01:19:55,540 --> 01:20:00,796
of the one who is
the responsible protector.

1487
01:20:00,879 --> 01:20:02,297
Especially with the boys.

1488
01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:04,466
-Shit, they're filming me.
-[interviewer] We popped up.

1489
01:20:04,549 --> 01:20:05,884
-Hold on.
-[Brooke] I didn't know.

1490
01:20:05,967 --> 01:20:07,302
-Hey, how are you?
-Hi!

1491
01:20:07,385 --> 01:20:09,930
Hey, good to see you. Wow.

1492
01:20:10,013 --> 01:20:12,849
How's the interview
for the documentary going?

1493
01:20:12,933 --> 01:20:16,144
-It's going great. Thank you for asking.
-Awesome. Good, good.

1494
01:20:16,228 --> 01:20:18,522
Well, we're honored
to have you participate.

1495
01:20:18,605 --> 01:20:20,607
Well, thank you. The honor is all mine.

1496
01:20:20,690 --> 01:20:22,734
And so now he has this role

1497
01:20:22,818 --> 01:20:26,988
that is very different
than the role he used to have.

1498
01:20:27,072 --> 01:20:29,366
And it's pretty beautiful, magical,

1499
01:20:29,449 --> 01:20:32,118
and I think it's like
a perfect living amends.

1500
01:20:33,578 --> 01:20:38,124
He's already gone bigger and better
than anyone ever can.

1501
01:20:38,208 --> 01:20:40,252
That's called his kids, right?

1502
01:20:41,378 --> 01:20:45,715
There's no bigger movie than that, right?
No bigger stardom than that.

1503
01:20:45,799 --> 01:20:47,843
["Our House"
by Graham Nash & Joni Mitchell playing]

1504
01:20:47,926 --> 01:20:50,679
[Lola] I always call him
when I need something.

1505
01:20:50,762 --> 01:20:51,805
Anything.

1506
01:20:51,888 --> 01:20:56,518
I always feel like he's the first person
who will answer the phone immediately.

1507
01:20:56,601 --> 01:20:59,187
Um, and he'll also drop everything
to come help me.

1508
01:21:00,272 --> 01:21:05,527
We started getting pedicures and smoothies
together every three weeks to a month.

1509
01:21:05,610 --> 01:21:09,030
It's just nice because I never used
to have one-on-one time with him.

1510
01:21:09,114 --> 01:21:13,410
I feel like it's a deeper connection
than most kids have with their parents.

1511
01:21:15,328 --> 01:21:16,746
Just want to say hello.

1512
01:21:16,830 --> 01:21:18,832
[Charlie] Well, I hope it's going well.

1513
01:21:19,332 --> 01:21:20,876
Oh, it's going great.

1514
01:21:20,959 --> 01:21:22,043
Okay, good.

1515
01:21:22,127 --> 01:21:23,461
[laughs]

1516
01:21:23,545 --> 01:21:26,631
♪ Our house
Is a very, very, very fine house… ♪

1517
01:21:26,715 --> 01:21:29,009
I still love him.

1518
01:21:29,092 --> 01:21:32,053
♪ With two cats in the yard ♪

1519
01:21:32,137 --> 01:21:35,056
♪ Life used to be so hard ♪

1520
01:21:35,140 --> 01:21:36,391
♪ Now everything is easy… ♪

1521
01:21:36,474 --> 01:21:42,606
There's supporting players that are
more important in the story than myself.

1522
01:21:45,066 --> 01:21:47,485
♪ Our house ♪

1523
01:21:48,194 --> 01:21:51,114
♪ Is a very, very, very fine house ♪

1524
01:21:51,907 --> 01:21:54,701
♪ With two cats in the yard ♪

1525
01:21:54,784 --> 01:21:58,163
♪ Life used to be so hard ♪

1526
01:21:58,246 --> 01:22:03,919
♪ Now everything is easy 'cause of you ♪

1527
01:22:06,004 --> 01:22:09,591
♪ And now ♪

1528
01:22:09,674 --> 01:22:13,011
♪ I'll light the fire ♪

1529
01:22:13,637 --> 01:22:17,182
♪ While you place
The flowers in the vase ♪

1530
01:22:17,265 --> 01:22:19,100
Not yet, lady.

1531
01:22:19,184 --> 01:22:25,815
♪ That you bought today ♪

1532
01:22:27,901 --> 01:22:32,238
I can't imagine being my dad.

1533
01:22:33,156 --> 01:22:34,866
Can't even imagine it.

1534
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:37,410
We banged heads a lot over the years.

1535
01:22:38,036 --> 01:22:39,788
We haven't for a long time.

1536
01:22:39,871 --> 01:22:42,540
We came to a place that's been beautiful.

1537
01:22:43,041 --> 01:22:44,918
It's been, um, nourishing.

1538
01:22:46,461 --> 01:22:48,797
What is true is that I'm proud of you.

1539
01:22:49,464 --> 01:22:50,632
You're my boy.

1540
01:22:52,384 --> 01:22:53,468
And I love you.

1541
01:22:54,886 --> 01:22:56,596
[Charlie] If I could put it in one word…

1542
01:22:59,599 --> 01:23:00,684
gratitude.

1543
01:23:09,317 --> 01:23:12,028
♪ Our house ♪

1544
01:23:12,112 --> 01:23:15,281
♪ Is a very, very, very fine house ♪

1545
01:23:19,244 --> 01:23:21,246
[atmospheric music playing]

1546
01:26:44,782 --> 01:26:46,117
[music fades]