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- Harlan, over here!
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- Ladies and gentlemen,
Harlan Coben.
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[applause]
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- He's the greatest
thriller writer.
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- Oh, come on.
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- Coben's written over 30
"New York Times" bestsellers.
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- With over a dozen
hit TV shows and movies.
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[dynamic music]
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- Just when you think
you have it all figured out,
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think again.
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[uneasy music]
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♪ ♪
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I'm Harlan Coben.
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The most unsettling mysteries
begin with something simple,
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a regular, normal day.
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When Chef Daniel Brophy arrived
at his culinary school,
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there was no hint that his life
was about to end suddenly
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and violently.
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No warning, no obvious threat,
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no chance to prepare.
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So who wanted Daniel dead?
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And why kill him in the kitchen
that meant so much to him?
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We often look for the moment
when everything changes.
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But sometimes
that moment is elusive,
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hiding in plain sight,
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buried inside an ordinary day.
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And that's where
our mystery begins.
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[soft dramatic music]
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- It didn't take much
to make Dan happy.
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He was a chef instructor,
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a master gardener,
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an oceanographer.
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He looked at life
as a survival game.
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And he was good at that...
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Right up until he was killed.
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[sirens wailing]
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- Students showing up
for class
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at the Oregon Culinary
Institute
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found a man shot to death
in the school's kitchen.
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[indistinct chatter]
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- Many are grieving the loss
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of Daniel Brophy.
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- He was one of the most
sought-after mushroom experts.
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- There have been incidents
where people have
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confronted individuals
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while foraging for mushrooms.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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- Dan was an instructor
for a long time.
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There was a staff,
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hundreds of students,
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an entire school.
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- Both shots were directed
towards his heart.
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We thought this
may be targeted.
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- We knew immediately
we needed to find the gun.
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- We dug down really deep
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into each of the people
in Dan's life.
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- We found this box.
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And everybody's just like,
oh, my God,
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it's gotta be
the murder weapon.
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It's a ghost gun kit.
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- An untraceable
murder weapon.
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- What we found was
essentially kind of
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a play-by-play
for how to commit a murder
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and get away with it.
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[dramatic music]
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- A crime happened here.
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The past isn't what it seemed.
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The story told turns out
to be deception.
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And just when you're sure
you have the answer--
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- 911, what is the address
of your emergency?
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Hello?
Anyone there?
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- there's one final twist.
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[dramatic piano music]
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- I grew up in Portland.
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And the food was very,
very traditional.
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And then a handful of people
started to wake the city up
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to what food could be.
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We started
Oregon Culinary Institute
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in the spring of 2006.
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We tried to hire
not necessarily great chefs,
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but great instructors.
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Those two skill sets
don't often intersect.
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But with Dan, they did.
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[laughter]
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- Dan Brophy had a way
of engaging students
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on a level that
was truly unique.
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- Chef Brophy was
really knowledgeable.
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- It's very salty.
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It tastes like the ocean.
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- A little gruff, a little
rough around the edges.
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- But his passion for what
he did was contagious.
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- Dan was married to
Nancy Crampton-Brophy.
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They had a little house
with a big garden.
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She had a big personality.
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She's loud and laughing.
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Nancy Brophy was
a romantic suspense author.
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She wrote a number of books.
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She traveled to
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national Romance Writers
of America conferences.
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And she was the president of
the Rose City Romance Writers.
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Dan and Nancy were together
almost 25 years
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and entering
their golden years
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in a way that fulfilled
both of them.
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- On the morning
of June 2, 2018,
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I arrived at
the Oregon Culinary Institute
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and immediately noticed that
something was different.
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[tense music]
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The door was locked.
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Chef Brophy would always
unlock it before we got there.
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After a few minutes,
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our baking and pastry chef
came and unlocked it.
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[river whooshing]
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- I was going fishing
out in the Gorge.
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Our baking chef called me,
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asking me where
a particular item is located.
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I tell her as best I can.
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- One of my classmates
went into the kitchen
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and immediately said,
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there's somebody on the ground,
call 911.
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I saw Chef Brophy,
and I dialed 911.
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- 911.
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[water rushing]
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- Our baking chef called me
back and she's hysterical.
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"Dan's down.
Dan's down.
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I think he's had
a heart attack."
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The gal who found him
started doing CPR.
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And then she said,
I must have cracked a rib
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because there's
suddenly blood.
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- I remember the silence on
the other side of the phone.
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We all knew he was gone.
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- The EMTs
and paramedics arrived
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and asked us to step outside
so they could attend to him.
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[sirens wailing]
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I remember a cop
walking past and saying,
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"GSW,"
the words GSW.
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And I was like,
gunshot wound, what?
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[ominous music]
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- Once the fire department
got there,
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they cut off Dan's shirt.
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They realized that he had
a bullet wound to his chest.
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Once they rolled
Dan's body over,
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they could see another
bullet strike to his back.
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- The fire department goes,
this guy's been shot.
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And they're wondering if
there's a shooter still around.
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[sirens wailing]
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- Police came in and they
cordoned off the school.
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Wouldn't let anyone in.
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- We were all panicked
that there was
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someone in the building
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that was going to shoot
someone else again.
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By that point,
there was a group
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of students at the school.
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A police officer said,
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Okay, I need everyone
in the student lounge,
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and I need everyone's hands
on the table.
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We were all suspects.
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[sirens wailing]
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[tense music]
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- Think about this
for a moment.
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They didn't even realize
Dan had been shot at first.
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That seems to defy belief,
doesn't it?
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That's reality for you.
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I probably couldn't write that
in a novel.
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But as investigators gathered
the students and staff,
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every person who had walked
through those kitchen doors
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that morning became someone
they couldn't ignore.
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It had all the makings
of a classic whodunit--
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a familiar place,
a room full of suspects,
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and maybe a killer
hiding among them.
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- We had a number of students
at the location--
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28, 30 students.
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We don't know
who the shooter is.
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It could be one of them.
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So we had a lot of interviewing
that needed to be conducted.
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[sirens wailing]
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- I was seeing people
everywhere.
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Media had arrived.
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Cameras were there.
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Right away we could tell, this
is gonna be kind of a deal.
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- Our initial search
revealed that
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there was no surveillance video
at the school.
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So really, we had to look
at the physical evidence.
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What we had was
two shell casings,
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appeared to be 9-millimeter.
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Dan's phone was there,
Dan's wallet, his glasses,
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all personal items
were still there.
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- It looked like
he had been preparing,
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and someone came up
and surprised him
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when they killed him.
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[ominous music]
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- As I'm coming
across the river,
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we come down Jefferson Street
in front of the school
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and it's all taped off.
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And so I pulled over.
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There's a crowd all around
the yellow tape.
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And I turn, and there's Nancy.
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And she's staring.
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And I turn and I reach,
and I hand the ribbon up,
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and the officer looks at me
and says, you can't do that.
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And I lost it.
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And I said,
that's his [bleep] wife.
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And you better let her in here.
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And the officer looked at Nancy
and says, are you Mrs. Brophy?
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Yes, I am.
Please, come with me.
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- I was still
interviewing students
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when Dan's spouse arrived.
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My understanding is
she was at home
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at the time Dan was murdered.
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And so we knew we had to
provide a death notification.
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It's one of those
tough things that
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you have to do in police work.
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You have to tell somebody,
you know, terrible news.
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- So...
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- Yeah. Mm-hmm.
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I wanted to find out
about this gun
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because my concern
is that he decided
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to start carrying
that gun with him,
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and it was taken from him
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in the course of something,
some kind of altercation.
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- It was late
in the afternoon.
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And the coroner finally came.
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And they brought
Dan's body out.
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[somber music]
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I told the officer
I needed to say goodbye.
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And I crossed the line.
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And I...
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I lost it.
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You know, I cried a lot
over this one.
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- Nothing hits harder
for detectives
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than facing family and friends
after a loss.
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That devastating moment
they have to tell them
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that their loved one
is gone forever.
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- Given that we didn't
have much to go on,
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we started to think that
maybe this was targeted.
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[tense music]
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Does somebody have
a problem with Dan?
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- Dan could rub students
the wrong way.
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Not everyone appreciated
his sense of humor.
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- Dan had some encounters
with students
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that we had to have
discussions about.
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We told him that
he could be himself,
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but that he had to respect
the students
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and understand that
not everyone got him.
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- We interviewed
all the students.
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Did you ever have
an issue with Dan?
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You know, did you have
a problem with Dan?
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Did Dan give you a bad grade?
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Were you angry at Dan for the
way he talked to you in class?
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- After interviewing
all the current students,
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none of them had
an apparent issue with Dan.
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So then we started thinking
about the former students.
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Maybe there was somebody
in the past
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Dan had made mad
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and had come there
to take him out.
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- Every teacher collects
a few grudges--
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a harsh critique,
a failed grade,
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a reprimand delivered
in front of the class.
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It comes with the job.
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Dan Brophy had spent years
teaching students
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who didn't always appreciate
his methods.
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And when you stand in front
of a classroom long enough,
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someone may take away
the wrong lesson.
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[suspenseful music]
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- We had a whole ton
of students,
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but nobody that
came forward to say,
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I heard a gunshot, or I saw
somebody running with a gun.
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So the interview process
was vast.
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We realized that
this was gonna be
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a pretty big challenge
to figure this case out.
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*
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Meanwhile,
with Nancy telling us
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that they bought a handgun
that they had at home,
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we knew we needed
to look at the gun.
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She told us it was
a semiautomatic 9-millimeter.
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We knew we had 9-millimeter
casings at our scene.
285
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- There was no firearm
found at the scene.
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So the detectives decided
to drive Nancy home
287
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to check to see
if the firearm was there.
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♪ ♪
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Turns out,
the gun is back at home.
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- It looked like it had
never been touched.
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Everything is in place.
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The zip ties are through it.
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And we were able to prove
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through the Oregon State
Police Crime Lab
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that that was not
the gun responsible.
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♪ ♪
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While the detectives
were at the house,
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we started to fan out.
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We canvassed his
entire neighborhood.
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And this neighbor that lived
right across the street
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from Chef Brophy was like,
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well, one of his students
used to live right next to us.
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He's a really weird guy.
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We heard that
he hated Chef Brophy.
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♪ ♪
306
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It took a lot of work to
find this person's identity,
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because he moved away.
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But we eventually
tracked him down.
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He was a young man
named Conrad,
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the former culinary
institute student.
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He was now living
in the Bend area.
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♪ ♪
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It was difficult,
because it was a farm
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and it was a sort of
a rural area.
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And then I made the call.
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[line ringing]
317
00:16:19,146 --> 00:16:21,013
- Hey, I'm conducting
an investigation right now,
318
00:16:21,014 --> 00:16:23,650
and Chef Dan Brophy was killed.
319
00:16:32,459 --> 00:16:34,160
- I think he felt
a little bit paranoid.
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There is this potential issue
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00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:39,366
that maybe he did have
with Chef Brophy.
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- We had the sheriff's office
do background checks,
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00:16:57,150 --> 00:16:58,351
check on his criminal history.
324
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Nothing going on.
325
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And we couldn't connect him
to anything at our scene,
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anything in the area.
327
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Once we went through all that,
328
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we got to a point where
there's just nothing here.
329
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And he was very open with us.
330
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It didn't seem like he was
being deceptive in any way.
331
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We believed that Conrad wasn't
involved in any of this.
332
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And after
our other interviews,
333
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we were not able to determine
any beef with him
334
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with any
of the former students.
335
00:17:36,323 --> 00:17:37,556
- Thank you all for coming.
336
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It's great to see
everybody here
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to show their appreciation
for one of my best friends
338
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I've ever had
in my entire life--
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00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:44,564
- They had a vigil for Dan--
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00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:49,034
graduates, current students,
friends, family.
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The crowd just kept coming.
342
00:17:50,437 --> 00:17:53,172
- Dan was-- you know,
he was the pinnacle.
343
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He was at the top.
344
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So it's a tough loss
for everyone.
345
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- Nancy told stories
and thanked everybody.
346
00:18:04,617 --> 00:18:07,586
- He was a huge part
of our school,
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part of the heart and soul
of our school.
348
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And so there was grief.
349
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Immediately after,
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I do remember
Nancy coming to us
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00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:22,302
and she very strongly
chastised Brian and I
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00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:25,272
for not having security cameras
in the school.
353
00:18:26,706 --> 00:18:29,142
- In fiction, when
my detective hits the wall,
354
00:18:29,242 --> 00:18:31,777
I can always put a clue
on the next page.
355
00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:33,979
Real detectives
don't get that luxury.
356
00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:36,983
They have to work through every
name and chase every lead,
357
00:18:37,083 --> 00:18:40,286
all while a grieving family
waits for answers.
358
00:18:40,287 --> 00:18:43,422
But somewhere in that long list
of names and dead ends,
359
00:18:43,423 --> 00:18:47,259
one overlooked detail
begins to stand out.
360
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[ominous music]
361
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- We were trying to look for
any clue as to what happened.
362
00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,134
There was
no surveillance video.
363
00:18:56,135 --> 00:18:58,904
And so the detective said,
hey, do you want to walk around
364
00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:01,807
and look for
surveillance footage?
365
00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:04,443
Bellagio's Pizza,
which is almost directly
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across the street
from the culinary institute,
367
00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:09,848
they had a camera
and allowed us
368
00:19:09,849 --> 00:19:13,185
to view their surveillance
from that morning.
369
00:19:13,186 --> 00:19:16,489
- We knew this area
had houseless issues.
370
00:19:16,589 --> 00:19:17,956
There were some
homeless people
371
00:19:17,957 --> 00:19:20,359
that were regulars
in the area.
372
00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:23,663
That morning, Chef Brophy had
left the garage door open.
373
00:19:23,763 --> 00:19:26,164
Could one homeless person
have seen that
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00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:28,868
as a window of opportunity
to go in and steal liquor,
375
00:19:28,968 --> 00:19:31,470
rob the person in there,
376
00:19:31,471 --> 00:19:33,172
and then Dan was killed?
377
00:19:33,273 --> 00:19:35,207
[suspenseful music]
378
00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:37,043
- Watching
the surveillance footage,
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00:19:37,143 --> 00:19:41,179
we did see a known
homeless person circling
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00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:43,982
the culinary institute
around the time of the murder.
381
00:19:43,983 --> 00:19:46,385
- We found out his name
was Oscar Taylor
382
00:19:46,386 --> 00:19:50,055
from some of the officers that
work in that particular area.
383
00:19:50,056 --> 00:19:52,224
- We knew we needed
to do some follow-up,
384
00:19:52,225 --> 00:19:55,061
so we had a flyer out for
patrol to try to locate him.
385
00:19:55,161 --> 00:19:58,698
- He had a violent past,
had assaulted people,
386
00:19:58,798 --> 00:20:00,799
had also fought
with the police.
387
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,201
We searched the entire area,
388
00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:04,804
but we could not find Oscar.
389
00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:13,012
[sirens wailing]
390
00:20:16,015 --> 00:20:18,484
[brooding music]
391
00:20:18,485 --> 00:20:20,720
- In books,
the guilty always run.
392
00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:23,355
It's practically a rule
in crime fiction.
393
00:20:23,356 --> 00:20:27,593
The moment the net starts
to close, our suspect bolts.
394
00:20:27,594 --> 00:20:29,227
And before you know it,
395
00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,363
the chase is half the story.
396
00:20:31,364 --> 00:20:33,098
♪ ♪
397
00:20:33,099 --> 00:20:35,233
- With Oscar Taylor,
we were thinking that maybe
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he went in to just find
some money or property,
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00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:42,575
'cause he was homeless,
and got confronted by Dan.
400
00:20:42,675 --> 00:20:45,477
And then there was an
altercation and he shot him.
401
00:20:45,478 --> 00:20:48,580
- We didn't really know
where he was.
402
00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:50,782
- We went back
for days and days,
403
00:20:50,783 --> 00:20:53,652
collecting as much video
as we could.
404
00:20:53,653 --> 00:20:56,456
- Then, I'd caught
another homicide case.
405
00:20:56,556 --> 00:20:58,724
Darren and I were
working it together.
406
00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:02,628
And we were all the way
on the other side of town.
407
00:21:02,629 --> 00:21:05,397
And this area had
a high transient population
408
00:21:05,398 --> 00:21:06,965
where people were camping.
409
00:21:06,966 --> 00:21:08,434
And we were canvassing
in that area,
410
00:21:08,435 --> 00:21:09,969
and a guy drove by on a bike.
411
00:21:10,069 --> 00:21:12,103
And lo and behold, it's Oscar.
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00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:14,172
♪ ♪
413
00:21:14,173 --> 00:21:17,777
And so we stopped him
and we interviewed him.
414
00:21:18,611 --> 00:21:20,612
- Let's be honest.
415
00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:23,382
If I wrote a novel where
detectives searched for a man,
416
00:21:23,383 --> 00:21:25,116
only to find him
by coincidence
417
00:21:25,117 --> 00:21:28,620
while driving across town
on an unrelated case,
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00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,322
you'd throw the book at me.
419
00:21:30,323 --> 00:21:33,859
It would feel too convenient,
too unrealistic.
420
00:21:33,860 --> 00:21:37,296
But real life doesn't care
what makes sense in fiction.
421
00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:38,930
[camera shutter clicks]
422
00:21:38,931 --> 00:21:42,669
- He admitted that
he was out by the institute
423
00:21:42,769 --> 00:21:44,504
when Dan was killed.
424
00:21:44,604 --> 00:21:47,639
- We went through a lot
of Q&A with him about,
425
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,975
hey, have you been involved
in anything lately?
426
00:21:49,976 --> 00:21:52,479
When we saw him on the
Bellagio's video surveillance,
427
00:21:52,579 --> 00:21:55,447
he was wheeling that,
going from left to right.
428
00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:58,650
At some point, did he maybe
then go over to OCI?
429
00:21:58,651 --> 00:22:00,118
- And he said, no,
I remember that day.
430
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,153
He's like,
I don't remember
431
00:22:01,253 --> 00:22:02,654
seeing anything
and hearing anything.
432
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:04,356
- And then we found
other videos
433
00:22:04,357 --> 00:22:06,157
that showed he had continued
going up the hill
434
00:22:06,158 --> 00:22:08,460
and out of
the crime scene area.
435
00:22:08,461 --> 00:22:10,997
So we were able
to rule him out completely.
436
00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:12,831
[ominous music]
437
00:22:12,832 --> 00:22:15,501
- Learning who the person
is that's been killed
438
00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:17,336
is very important.
439
00:22:17,437 --> 00:22:19,605
Coming to understand
who Dan is
440
00:22:19,606 --> 00:22:22,842
becomes a key piece
in your investigation.
441
00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:27,178
- We learned that Dan was
really into mushroom foraging
442
00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:30,015
out in the coastal
forest ranges.
443
00:22:30,016 --> 00:22:32,451
- He would take people
like me to teach me
444
00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:34,720
to look for morels
or chanterelles
445
00:22:34,721 --> 00:22:35,887
or lobster mushrooms.
446
00:22:35,888 --> 00:22:38,490
- The mushroom that
we're hoping to find
447
00:22:38,491 --> 00:22:40,392
are chanterelles.
448
00:22:40,393 --> 00:22:43,829
- Dan had spent years
doing that.
449
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:46,532
And he could make a lot
of money selling mushrooms.
450
00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:49,234
Mushroom foragers are also
451
00:22:49,235 --> 00:22:52,071
notoriously private
with their locations.
452
00:22:52,171 --> 00:22:53,839
♪ ♪
453
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,243
- Once people find a spot
that they like,
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00:22:57,343 --> 00:23:00,912
they don't tell anybody
and they tend to protect it.
455
00:23:00,913 --> 00:23:02,881
There have been incidents
where people have
456
00:23:02,882 --> 00:23:06,919
confronted individuals
while foraging for mushrooms.
457
00:23:07,019 --> 00:23:09,555
♪ ♪
458
00:23:09,556 --> 00:23:11,090
A lot of people
in that community
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00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:13,391
do actually carry firearms
when they go out
460
00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:14,760
in case there is
a confrontation.
461
00:23:14,761 --> 00:23:16,695
- There's been,
you know, fights
462
00:23:16,696 --> 00:23:19,432
and even gunplay
over mushrooms.
463
00:23:19,532 --> 00:23:21,967
♪ ♪
464
00:23:21,968 --> 00:23:24,971
- We interviewed
the family of Dan Brophy.
465
00:23:25,071 --> 00:23:27,273
There was Dan's son,
Nathaniel,
466
00:23:27,373 --> 00:23:28,940
from another marriage.
467
00:23:28,941 --> 00:23:31,443
Nathaniel was into guns,
had guns,
468
00:23:31,444 --> 00:23:33,244
and he thought that
it would be odd
469
00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:36,983
that his dad would purchase a
gun without even mentioning it.
470
00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:42,621
♪ ♪
471
00:23:42,622 --> 00:23:43,789
[patrons chattering]
472
00:23:43,790 --> 00:23:46,325
- Did your father
ever talk about
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00:23:46,425 --> 00:23:49,161
using guns or wanting to buy
a gun at all?
474
00:23:50,296 --> 00:23:52,799
- No, not to my knowledge.
475
00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:05,978
- Okay.
476
00:24:06,913 --> 00:24:08,814
[suspenseful music]
477
00:24:08,815 --> 00:24:10,816
- And so we thought maybe Dan
478
00:24:10,817 --> 00:24:13,686
did want to buy this gun with
Nancy for his own protection,
479
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,687
whether it be at the school
or whether it be
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00:24:15,688 --> 00:24:17,623
when he goes out
mushroom foraging.
481
00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,992
♪ ♪
482
00:24:20,092 --> 00:24:22,494
We wanted to see if there
was somebody involved
483
00:24:22,495 --> 00:24:26,031
in that community that
maybe had a beef with Dan.
484
00:24:26,032 --> 00:24:30,001
We didn't know if
somebody took it too far
485
00:24:30,002 --> 00:24:32,872
or somebody was protecting
their territory,
486
00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:37,577
and that Dan had somehow
stepped on somebody's toes.
487
00:24:43,616 --> 00:24:46,017
- Mushroom foraging,
given how competitive it is,
488
00:24:46,018 --> 00:24:50,021
became so important
to follow-up on.
489
00:24:50,022 --> 00:24:53,892
We tracked down
fellow mushroom foragers.
490
00:24:53,893 --> 00:24:57,829
And there was really
nothing to indicate that
491
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:59,898
Dan had some sort
of altercation.
492
00:24:59,899 --> 00:25:02,201
[somber music]
493
00:25:02,301 --> 00:25:05,070
- So at this point, we're
ruling out a lot of the things
494
00:25:05,071 --> 00:25:07,573
that we thought could have
been possible in this case.
495
00:25:07,574 --> 00:25:11,142
We felt like
we'd covered everything.
496
00:25:11,143 --> 00:25:13,712
Right now,
there's not many answers.
497
00:25:13,713 --> 00:25:15,947
♪ ♪
498
00:25:15,948 --> 00:25:18,084
- Investigators chase
every lead--
499
00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:21,052
Dan's students, his work,
500
00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:23,054
his passion for mushrooms.
501
00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:25,891
But one by one,
they come up empty.
502
00:25:25,892 --> 00:25:28,560
Weeks pass, then months.
503
00:25:28,561 --> 00:25:30,796
The case goes quiet
and people begin to assume
504
00:25:30,797 --> 00:25:32,599
it's dead and buried.
505
00:25:32,699 --> 00:25:35,434
But answers don't disappear.
They wait.
506
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:37,603
And when they finally surface,
507
00:25:37,604 --> 00:25:41,206
they return with a fury
no one saw coming.
508
00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:44,776
[dramatic music]
509
00:25:44,777 --> 00:25:46,579
- We went back
for days and days,
510
00:25:46,679 --> 00:25:50,148
collecting as much video as
we could from different areas.
511
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:53,819
And this became
kind of a video case.
512
00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:56,254
We went back and reviewed
a lot of the surveillance.
513
00:25:56,255 --> 00:26:00,425
And that's when we started
seeing a van on the video.
514
00:26:00,426 --> 00:26:02,961
The first time that
the van came to the area
515
00:26:02,962 --> 00:26:06,698
on Bellagio's video
was about 7:01 AM.
516
00:26:06,699 --> 00:26:08,233
So that van's there
pretty early,
517
00:26:08,234 --> 00:26:10,301
way before Chef Brophy is.
518
00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:13,138
Then we don't see that van
again on that video
519
00:26:13,139 --> 00:26:18,209
until it comes back,
leaving the area at 7:28.
520
00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:21,780
Dan Brophy had to deactivate
the alarm at OCI.
521
00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:25,150
The alarm was deactivated
at 7:21 AM
522
00:26:25,151 --> 00:26:27,285
for students arriving at 7:30.
523
00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:30,956
So we know that van
had been in that vicinity
524
00:26:30,957 --> 00:26:33,825
right during the time frame
that he would have been killed.
525
00:26:33,826 --> 00:26:35,026
[tense music]
526
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:36,294
We were frustrated
527
00:26:36,295 --> 00:26:38,831
because the license plate
was pixelated,
528
00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:41,399
so you couldn't really
make out what it was.
529
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,334
But I remember watching it
over and over and over--
530
00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:46,137
pause, play, pause, play--
and magnifying it.
531
00:26:46,138 --> 00:26:49,607
We were able to get
a few of the numbers.
532
00:26:49,608 --> 00:26:51,977
And so we assigned
some other detectives
533
00:26:51,978 --> 00:26:56,816
to work on finding all the
Oregon Toyota Sienna minivans
534
00:26:56,916 --> 00:26:58,685
with that partial plate.
535
00:27:00,152 --> 00:27:02,487
♪ ♪
536
00:27:02,488 --> 00:27:04,323
- I'm at the office.
537
00:27:04,423 --> 00:27:07,826
Nancy calls me 'cause
she had some questions.
538
00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:09,661
This is not
out of the ordinary
539
00:27:09,662 --> 00:27:12,497
for a victim's loved one
to call
540
00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:14,600
to find out what's happening
or what's going on.
541
00:27:15,501 --> 00:27:17,168
- This may give you a laugh.
542
00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:18,671
I don't want to be the stupid
question of the day,
543
00:27:18,771 --> 00:27:21,039
but I think I need to be the
stupid question of the day.
544
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,574
Uh...
- [chuckles] Okay.
545
00:27:28,214 --> 00:27:30,082
- Why?
[detective scoffs]
546
00:27:40,492 --> 00:27:42,094
Because I thought...
547
00:27:46,966 --> 00:27:48,935
You know?
- [detective chuckles] Okay.
548
00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:54,774
- Yeah.
549
00:27:57,443 --> 00:27:58,977
I'm kind of taken aback.
550
00:27:58,978 --> 00:28:02,548
Typically, how that works
is you file your claim
551
00:28:02,648 --> 00:28:05,383
and the insurance company
calls us,
552
00:28:05,384 --> 00:28:09,087
not the loved one
of the victim,
553
00:28:09,088 --> 00:28:11,590
and not days
after the homicide.
554
00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:14,025
Well, what's going on here?
555
00:28:14,026 --> 00:28:15,626
[ominous music]
556
00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:19,899
- We started to look into
the state of their finances.
557
00:28:19,999 --> 00:28:22,133
- Some of the associates said
that they had
558
00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:24,803
had some difficulty
making ends meet.
559
00:28:24,804 --> 00:28:28,774
- When Nancy started
getting into writing,
560
00:28:28,775 --> 00:28:31,642
I started noticing some of
the financial challenges
561
00:28:31,643 --> 00:28:33,078
they were going through.
562
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:35,546
At one point,
they had bought a Prius.
563
00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:38,416
And then there was no Prius.
564
00:28:38,417 --> 00:28:39,952
I asked Dan,
so where'd the Prius go?
565
00:28:40,052 --> 00:28:42,253
Oh, we couldn't afford it.
He was very matter of fact.
566
00:28:42,254 --> 00:28:43,722
Couldn't afford it anymore.
567
00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:48,094
- Nancy really wanted to
project an image of success
568
00:28:48,194 --> 00:28:49,962
as a writer.
569
00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:52,163
And unfortunately for Nancy,
success never came.
570
00:28:52,164 --> 00:28:56,268
So we're talking about more
than a decade of writing books,
571
00:28:56,368 --> 00:28:58,169
trying to get published,
572
00:28:58,170 --> 00:29:00,538
pushing them out
in self-publishing,
573
00:29:00,539 --> 00:29:05,077
trying to get an audience,
and not having that add up.
574
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:10,783
- We found out that sometimes
they were not able
575
00:29:10,883 --> 00:29:12,885
to pay their mortgage.
576
00:29:14,486 --> 00:29:17,522
- They really
overextended themselves.
577
00:29:17,523 --> 00:29:20,758
Between the two of them, they
spent all the money they had.
578
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,694
And so in order
to make ends meet,
579
00:29:23,695 --> 00:29:25,832
Nancy took on the job
580
00:29:25,932 --> 00:29:28,534
of selling life insurance
on the side.
581
00:29:30,136 --> 00:29:32,971
Then she started
taking out policies on Dan.
582
00:29:32,972 --> 00:29:36,207
- So she had purchased various
life insurance policies,
583
00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:38,677
paying several
thousand dollars a month
584
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:40,679
in life insurance premiums.
585
00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:43,148
At the time that Dan died,
586
00:29:43,149 --> 00:29:46,485
they had about $850,000
in life insurance.
587
00:29:46,585 --> 00:29:49,988
And there was about
another $400,000 available
588
00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:53,624
to Nancy from workers' comp.
589
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,195
- Meanwhile,
she was fixing the house up.
590
00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:59,330
It looked like she was getting
ready to sell the house.
591
00:29:59,331 --> 00:30:02,600
Then Dan's parents told us
that the money situation
592
00:30:02,601 --> 00:30:04,903
was so bad at one point
that they actually
593
00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:08,173
gave her the van
that she currently owned,
594
00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:10,876
the Toyota Sienna minivan.
595
00:30:10,877 --> 00:30:13,011
- Looking at
surveillance footage,
596
00:30:13,012 --> 00:30:16,982
we identified about
22 other minivans of that year
597
00:30:16,983 --> 00:30:18,216
that were registered
in Oregon.
598
00:30:18,217 --> 00:30:20,218
And then we tried to
match up the plate.
599
00:30:20,219 --> 00:30:24,322
And we were able to eliminate
every single one...
600
00:30:24,323 --> 00:30:26,993
except Nancy's.
601
00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:35,700
- It became very clear
that Nancy was involved.
602
00:30:35,701 --> 00:30:37,535
So we started to
develop this theory.
603
00:30:37,536 --> 00:30:38,905
[soft dramatic music]
604
00:30:39,005 --> 00:30:43,375
- Nancy was enthralled
with being a writer,
605
00:30:43,475 --> 00:30:46,044
where she would
write her novels
606
00:30:46,045 --> 00:30:49,215
and travel to exotic places.
607
00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:51,582
- That was her dream.
608
00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:55,922
But she realized
that with Dan alive,
609
00:30:56,022 --> 00:30:59,225
that would never
be able to happen.
610
00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:01,093
- We had a motive that
611
00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:03,728
you could directly
see immediately--
612
00:31:03,729 --> 00:31:05,764
the life insurance policy.
613
00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:08,566
[suspenseful music]
614
00:31:08,567 --> 00:31:11,102
- We decided we're gonna
write a search warrant
615
00:31:11,103 --> 00:31:12,570
for Nancy Brophy's house.
616
00:31:12,571 --> 00:31:14,805
♪ ♪
617
00:31:14,806 --> 00:31:17,242
We knew we needed to find
the murder weapon.
618
00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:19,946
Nancy was home
during the search,
619
00:31:20,046 --> 00:31:22,413
and she acted really weird.
620
00:31:22,414 --> 00:31:24,015
She's in the front yard.
621
00:31:24,016 --> 00:31:25,350
And she started
wandering around
622
00:31:25,351 --> 00:31:26,618
in little circles saying,
623
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:28,286
you think
I killed my husband.
624
00:31:28,287 --> 00:31:29,588
And you think--
I didn't do anything.
625
00:31:29,688 --> 00:31:31,089
I wasn't there.
626
00:31:31,090 --> 00:31:33,592
And she sort of had this,
like, little meltdown.
627
00:31:33,692 --> 00:31:36,227
And then during
the search of the house,
628
00:31:36,228 --> 00:31:39,932
that's when we found out
that she had a storage unit.
629
00:31:40,032 --> 00:31:43,302
- And that's when we found
a box that was marked
630
00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:47,272
"Purses, Scarves, and GK."
631
00:31:47,273 --> 00:31:49,641
And so they open up the box
and they find purses,
632
00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:52,477
scarves, and a ghost gun kit.
633
00:31:52,478 --> 00:31:56,414
And we thought, there it is.
That's the murder weapon.
634
00:31:56,415 --> 00:32:00,385
- A ghost gun is a kit
that is 80% built.
635
00:32:00,386 --> 00:32:01,988
They're called ghost guns
636
00:32:02,088 --> 00:32:03,955
because they weren't
tracked anywhere.
637
00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:06,291
So you could buy
one of these guns,
638
00:32:06,292 --> 00:32:08,159
use it in a crime
and get rid of it,
639
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,495
and nobody would even know
that you ever had it.
640
00:32:09,595 --> 00:32:12,964
- And so I open it up.
And I'm looking at it.
641
00:32:12,965 --> 00:32:14,799
I'm like going,
642
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,136
something's not right here.
643
00:32:17,236 --> 00:32:20,171
That gun is all in its pieces.
644
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:22,507
It's highly unfunctional
at this point.
645
00:32:22,508 --> 00:32:26,677
- So we had the
ghost gun tested
646
00:32:26,678 --> 00:32:29,015
against the shell casings that
we had from the crime scene.
647
00:32:29,115 --> 00:32:30,815
And they didn't match.
648
00:32:30,816 --> 00:32:32,150
♪ ♪
649
00:32:32,151 --> 00:32:35,820
Nancy did not use
the ghost gun.
650
00:32:35,821 --> 00:32:38,024
- But it made Nancy
more suspicious to us.
651
00:32:38,124 --> 00:32:40,891
♪ ♪
652
00:32:40,892 --> 00:32:43,861
I knew there had to be
something else going on.
653
00:32:43,862 --> 00:32:46,097
She wrote novels
where she talks about
654
00:32:46,098 --> 00:32:48,666
how to cover your tracks.
655
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:50,535
She knew police procedures.
656
00:32:50,536 --> 00:32:52,503
- Nancy is not just an author.
657
00:32:52,504 --> 00:32:54,839
She's a romantic
suspense author.
658
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,844
She writes stories about women
who kill their husbands
659
00:32:58,944 --> 00:32:59,977
and get away with it.
660
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,180
♪ ♪
661
00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:04,550
- That's when I started
looking at the gun
662
00:33:04,650 --> 00:33:08,686
that she's given us
right after Dan was killed.
663
00:33:08,687 --> 00:33:11,489
She would know that
if we tested that gun,
664
00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:14,526
it would not match
the casings.
665
00:33:14,626 --> 00:33:17,429
She had to have done something
with this firearm.
666
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:22,367
- For a Glock handgun,
there's a very unique mark
667
00:33:22,368 --> 00:33:24,236
that's left on
the spent casings
668
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,738
by the slide and barrel
assembly.
669
00:33:26,838 --> 00:33:30,375
The slide and barrel is
a unique part of the handgun
670
00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:33,378
that you can then
compare to spent casings
671
00:33:33,379 --> 00:33:35,113
to identify the gun.
672
00:33:35,114 --> 00:33:36,847
- Some firearms experts
told us that,
673
00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:38,416
well, you could just pay
a few hundred bucks
674
00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:41,052
and get a new slide and barrel.
675
00:33:41,053 --> 00:33:43,222
And you could put that
onto another gun.
676
00:33:43,322 --> 00:33:46,191
And if you did that,
the markings that it leaves
677
00:33:46,192 --> 00:33:49,527
on the shell casing,
they wouldn't match.
678
00:33:49,528 --> 00:33:51,496
- So I thought, okay,
679
00:33:51,497 --> 00:33:53,732
what does she have
on her computers?
680
00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:58,103
- When we were digging
through Nancy's computer,
681
00:33:58,104 --> 00:34:01,872
we found that she did buy
a slide and barrel.
682
00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:05,076
And that slide and barrel would
fit the gun she turned over
683
00:34:05,077 --> 00:34:07,878
on the day of the homicide.
684
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:11,916
The theory became
Nancy bought the ghost gun,
685
00:34:11,917 --> 00:34:13,619
couldn't put it together,
686
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:14,953
bought the gun
that she turned over.
687
00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:17,422
She took the slide and barrel
from eBay,
688
00:34:17,423 --> 00:34:19,990
swapped them out,
committed the murder,
689
00:34:19,991 --> 00:34:21,659
put the old one back on.
690
00:34:21,660 --> 00:34:26,397
We did search her house for
the slide and barrel from eBay,
691
00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:28,399
but we never found it.
692
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,102
She probably just threw it
693
00:34:31,103 --> 00:34:32,937
in one of our many
bodies of water
694
00:34:32,938 --> 00:34:34,140
that we have around here.
695
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,508
♪ ♪
696
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,815
- Nancy was arrested about
three months after the murder.
697
00:34:49,321 --> 00:34:52,290
- We asked her
about the evidence,
698
00:34:52,291 --> 00:34:53,958
but she didn't talk to us
at that point
699
00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:55,461
'cause we had arrested her.
700
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:05,703
- And then it was shortly
after she was arrested
701
00:35:05,704 --> 00:35:07,805
that we got that article.
702
00:35:07,806 --> 00:35:10,441
That's when things
kind of got juicy.
703
00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:12,978
[dramatic music]
704
00:35:13,078 --> 00:35:15,813
- A 71-year-old
romantic suspense writer,
705
00:35:15,814 --> 00:35:18,983
Nancy Crampton-Brophy, has
written nearly a dozen books.
706
00:35:18,984 --> 00:35:22,287
But it's an essay
she penned back in 2011
707
00:35:22,288 --> 00:35:25,823
that is now getting
the most attention.
708
00:35:25,824 --> 00:35:29,927
- "How to Murder Your Husband"
is a satirical blog post
709
00:35:29,928 --> 00:35:32,330
about what a woman should do
if she would like
710
00:35:32,331 --> 00:35:35,701
to become single without having
to go through a messy divorce.
711
00:35:37,203 --> 00:35:39,770
"How to Murder Your Husband,
by Nancy Brophy.
712
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:41,906
"As a romantic
suspense writer,
713
00:35:41,907 --> 00:35:44,476
I spend a lot of time
thinking about murder."
714
00:35:46,077 --> 00:35:50,181
Nancy Brophy actually
analyzes each option
715
00:35:50,182 --> 00:35:53,051
as if she were
the one doing it.
716
00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:54,619
♪ ♪
717
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:55,853
- You know,
everyone kind of went,
718
00:35:55,854 --> 00:35:57,522
oh, my gosh,
she wrote about this.
719
00:35:57,523 --> 00:35:59,156
And then she did it.
720
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,659
- The novelist who wrote about
how to murder your husband
721
00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:03,994
is charged with
murdering her husband.
722
00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:06,897
- Every news outlet seemingly
wanted to cover it.
723
00:36:06,898 --> 00:36:10,369
[presenters speaking
in various languages]
724
00:36:17,543 --> 00:36:19,444
- Nancy wrote
a satirical piece
725
00:36:19,445 --> 00:36:21,312
about how to murder
your husband.
726
00:36:21,313 --> 00:36:22,713
Are you kidding me?
727
00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:23,914
I've read a lot of thrillers,
728
00:36:23,915 --> 00:36:25,883
and let's just say
this is either
729
00:36:25,884 --> 00:36:28,052
the most bizarre coincidence,
730
00:36:28,053 --> 00:36:31,088
or something
far more unsettling.
731
00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:33,392
- It looked damning.
732
00:36:33,492 --> 00:36:36,727
The problem was
it wasn't direct evidence.
733
00:36:36,728 --> 00:36:40,398
[intriguing music]
734
00:36:40,399 --> 00:36:42,933
- Going into the trial,
you know there's always a risk
735
00:36:42,934 --> 00:36:45,236
when it's just
circumstantial evidence
736
00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,272
in the entire case--
737
00:36:47,273 --> 00:36:50,575
Nancy Brophy's van in this
area during that time frame,
738
00:36:50,576 --> 00:36:52,778
the theory about the gun.
739
00:36:52,878 --> 00:36:56,414
We had no eyewitnesses,
no murder weapon.
740
00:36:56,415 --> 00:36:58,916
- We knew the jury
was gonna walk in
741
00:36:58,917 --> 00:37:01,420
and see their grandmother
wearing a cardigan
742
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,257
and think, how in the world
could she have done this?
743
00:37:06,592 --> 00:37:10,461
- The defense calls
Nancy Crampton-Brophy.
744
00:37:10,462 --> 00:37:12,196
- And, you know,
am I brokenhearted?
745
00:37:12,197 --> 00:37:13,598
I'm brokenhearted.
746
00:37:13,599 --> 00:37:15,466
Am I delighted to hear
stories from people
747
00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:17,234
who loved him as much as I did?
748
00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:19,437
Yeah, I am.
749
00:37:19,438 --> 00:37:20,938
- She always thought she was
750
00:37:20,939 --> 00:37:22,607
the smartest person
in the room.
751
00:37:22,608 --> 00:37:25,310
- Talking about Dan, period,
makes me emotional.
752
00:37:25,311 --> 00:37:26,945
- And because of that,
753
00:37:27,045 --> 00:37:29,947
she knew that this was her
performance of a lifetime.
754
00:37:29,948 --> 00:37:33,083
- What's it like
to be without him now?
755
00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:35,454
- It's like you've lost an arm,
you know?
756
00:37:35,554 --> 00:37:38,457
Like, you're just
not as good as you were
757
00:37:38,557 --> 00:37:40,758
when you were with him--
758
00:37:40,759 --> 00:37:42,793
when you were with him.
759
00:37:42,794 --> 00:37:43,961
- Nancy was convincing,
760
00:37:43,962 --> 00:37:46,998
talking about
her love for Dan.
761
00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:49,468
But we know that
her original alibi
762
00:37:49,568 --> 00:37:51,268
that she was at home writing
was a lie
763
00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:54,038
because we have video of her
car driving around the area
764
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:55,840
at the time of Dan's death.
765
00:37:55,841 --> 00:37:58,976
I needed the jurors
to understand
766
00:37:58,977 --> 00:38:01,278
by the end of her testimony
that she's a liar
767
00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:03,147
and she definitely did this.
768
00:38:03,148 --> 00:38:05,483
Everybody loved Dan.
769
00:38:05,484 --> 00:38:06,984
Nobody would want to hurt Dan.
770
00:38:06,985 --> 00:38:09,654
Even Nancy herself
told that to detectives.
771
00:38:09,655 --> 00:38:12,658
Nobody would want to hurt Dan.
772
00:38:12,758 --> 00:38:14,826
So nobody else had motive.
773
00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:16,293
But Nancy did.
774
00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:18,996
She's manipulating every
single person in this room.
775
00:38:18,997 --> 00:38:22,333
- Shawn Overstreet
is so amazing at
776
00:38:22,334 --> 00:38:23,701
getting Nancy to start talking
777
00:38:23,702 --> 00:38:25,570
and then talking
and then talking.
778
00:38:25,571 --> 00:38:27,505
- The reason why
I have no memory
779
00:38:27,506 --> 00:38:31,275
is because I was stunned
by the fact Dan was dead.
780
00:38:31,276 --> 00:38:32,943
And I wouldn't have
been stunned
781
00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:35,681
if I'd been in the building
and shot him.
782
00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:39,517
- I didn't suggest that
you did go in to shoot him.
783
00:38:39,518 --> 00:38:41,852
What I'm suggesting in asking--
- Okay.
784
00:38:41,853 --> 00:38:43,721
- Is, did you just go
in the building?
785
00:38:43,722 --> 00:38:46,357
- And then he lets her
786
00:38:46,358 --> 00:38:48,659
basically create enough rope
to hang herself.
787
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:50,362
- You would agree that
you're driving around
788
00:38:50,462 --> 00:38:52,129
in front
of the culinary institute
789
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:55,066
at the exact time
that Dan is being murdered?
790
00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:57,201
[suspenseful music]
791
00:38:57,202 --> 00:38:58,403
- I-- no.
792
00:38:58,404 --> 00:38:59,970
Actually,
I don't agree with that.
793
00:38:59,971 --> 00:39:04,609
I was driving around for a full
hour before Dan got murdered.
794
00:39:04,610 --> 00:39:06,578
- I'm sorry, did you just say
that you were driving around?
795
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,713
- Yes, that's what I was doing,
796
00:39:08,714 --> 00:39:10,280
was driving around, riding.
797
00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:12,383
- I thought you didn't know
that you were driving.
798
00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:14,085
- Didn't I say that yesterday?
799
00:39:14,185 --> 00:39:15,420
- No. No.
- Okay.
800
00:39:15,421 --> 00:39:16,954
- So let's go back over.
801
00:39:16,955 --> 00:39:18,723
- Okay, let's go back.
802
00:39:18,724 --> 00:39:22,226
- She thought that
she could outwit the jury
803
00:39:22,227 --> 00:39:26,064
and convince them of
something that's not true.
804
00:39:26,164 --> 00:39:30,168
- It's my understanding that
the jury has reached a verdict.
805
00:39:33,505 --> 00:39:36,073
Count 1,
murder in the second degree,
806
00:39:36,074 --> 00:39:37,743
guilty.
807
00:39:37,843 --> 00:39:39,677
- After the verdict came back,
808
00:39:39,678 --> 00:39:41,279
I immediately went
to the family.
809
00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:43,581
I gave Karen, Dan's mom,
a big hug.
810
00:39:43,582 --> 00:39:45,784
- Do you feel like justice
has been served for your son?
811
00:39:45,884 --> 00:39:47,585
- Absolutely.
Absolutely.
812
00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:49,119
- The whole family
seemed very relieved
813
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,256
that Nancy was held
responsible.
814
00:39:52,257 --> 00:39:54,892
- It was surprising to me
the level that she went to
815
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,862
for financial freedom.
816
00:39:57,729 --> 00:40:03,100
The planning that Nancy Brophy
put into killing her husband--
817
00:40:03,101 --> 00:40:05,436
it was diabolical,
in my opinion.
818
00:40:05,437 --> 00:40:07,773
- Be a good opportunity to
remember the man that he was,
819
00:40:07,873 --> 00:40:09,273
the father that he was,
820
00:40:09,274 --> 00:40:10,808
you know,
the grandfather that he was.
821
00:40:10,809 --> 00:40:13,611
- And the husband he was.
822
00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:16,647
[soft dramatic music]
823
00:40:16,648 --> 00:40:20,451
- The persona of Dan Brophy
was, if you have a question,
824
00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:22,953
don't expect a happy answer.
825
00:40:22,954 --> 00:40:25,155
It's gonna be, you ask me
the question, here's the truth.
826
00:40:25,156 --> 00:40:27,125
I'm gonna give you the truth
all the time.
827
00:40:27,225 --> 00:40:31,496
- What I most want people to
understand about Dan Brophy is
828
00:40:31,497 --> 00:40:35,633
that beyond the,
at times, hard exterior,
829
00:40:35,634 --> 00:40:38,302
there was a really big heart
830
00:40:38,303 --> 00:40:42,040
that cared very much about
the students he taught.
831
00:40:44,075 --> 00:40:47,178
- Dan Brophy would want you
all to get on with your lives,
832
00:40:47,278 --> 00:40:49,346
and would want you
to go out and celebrate
833
00:40:49,347 --> 00:40:53,183
a meal with your family,
and remember,
834
00:40:53,184 --> 00:40:56,353
that's the time
you have with them.
835
00:40:56,354 --> 00:40:58,990
And he'd really want you to go
try some Korean fried chicken
836
00:40:59,090 --> 00:41:01,692
up in Vancouver.
837
00:41:01,693 --> 00:41:02,994
[somber music]
838
00:41:03,094 --> 00:41:04,929
- A novelist who pens
an essay titled
839
00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:06,698
"How to Murder Your Husband"
840
00:41:06,798 --> 00:41:09,734
ends up accused
of doing just that.
841
00:41:09,735 --> 00:41:11,836
With the final twist
that blurs the line
842
00:41:11,837 --> 00:41:15,139
between page and reality,
the words Nancy Brophy wrote
843
00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:17,274
become evidence
used against her,
844
00:41:17,275 --> 00:41:20,444
and maybe, I don't know,
a confession of sorts.
845
00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:22,613
I'll admit,
as a fiction writer,
846
00:41:22,614 --> 00:41:25,851
that troubles me
on several levels.
847
00:41:25,951 --> 00:41:28,653
I'm Harlan Coben.
Good night.
848
00:41:28,654 --> 00:41:31,557
[dramatic music]
849
00:41:31,657 --> 00:41:38,697
♪ ♪
850
00:42:03,321 --> 00:42:06,224
[dramatic music]
851
00:42:06,324 --> 00:42:13,364
♪ ♪