Tonight on Part 2
of "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island" Reunion...
There's a rumor circulating online
saying that Kelsey may have been an escort.
I've never sold any of my holes for money.
ANDY: The men of "Rhode Island" are gonna join us.
You've gotta tell Rulla everything.
Did Brian tell you that Liz was with another man?
Yes.
Kelsey, there was some question relating to the timeline
of your breakup.
My relationship's very complex
for a lot of people to understand.
Have you amended the prenup and set a wedding date?
[laughs]
Brian says your butt smells like garlic,
just so you know. -[all groan, speaking at once]
She's not gonna stop until he says when it ended.
The affair ended when?
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You're a fucking slut. That's all you are.
And the whole fucking state knows that.
Guess what? Your husband's a slut.
No, fuck you. You sleep with doctors!
You have it after my husband. You sleep with doctors.
-Sit down. You cannot. -I don't know what's bigger,
your mouth or what's between your legs.
I'm gonna break your fucking nose.
Say something, Rulla. You're fucking nuts.
No. You all fucking know. You know.
-You know. -Know what?
-You know.
-Know what? -And you all know.
She's a fucking whore, but she wants to point the finger
at everybody else. -I'm a whore?
Your husband's not a whore? I'm a whore?
-Rulla, Rulla, no. -Put my husband aside!
He's a separate conversation.
-You can't even admit that. -It's already been admitted.
We already know he did what he did. He's not a whore.
-No?! -He made a mistake. Bad mistake
and series of choices. -When did that stop?
-It's no bigger than that now. -Okay, well, we're gonna get
into it, okay? Wait, wait, wait.
My life is so fucking interesting.
-You asked me for proof. -You can't stop making it
your business. -You asked me for proof.
But, Jo-Ellen, you don't sound like someone
who had good intentions, though.
-You know what? -So you can't do both.
Here's the thing. I started off with good intentions.
You don't sound like someone-- No, you didn't.
-I started off being nice. -No, you didn't.
I started off being nice. I told you.
No one know--everyone knows you didn't have good intentions.
-I told you. -You're full of shit.
-You were my friend, Liz. -Go deal with your own life!
-I'm sure you got enough dirt. -I've dealt with my life.
-You know that. -ANDY: All right.
Jo-Ellen, everybody in the state knows what you did.
She got a new nose and then got a new personality.
ANDY: Okay, hold on. Let me ask a question.
Rosie, this one's for you.
Uh, Antonella from San Francisco said,
when will the house be completed?
Rich said, like, mid July or so.
And we are ending up at how many square feet?
Rich tells me to just keep saying 5,000-square-foot
project to be-- -Okay.
-Is that satisfactory with you? -And that's why I was
getting confused. I don't like-- -Yeah, I don't care
the size of her house. -Okay, it seems like you do.
You, like, exaggerate things.
Like, "Yeah, me and Rich are building, like,
an 8,000-square-foot house," then just, like, blurt shit out.
I have no idea why Kelsey would actually care
about the square footage
or the honesty of the square footage of a house.
At the beginning, she said it was 8,000.
So that's what I'm saying. It's not 8,000.
So I can clear that up, too. We were supposed
to have a third floor.
You were gonna have a third floor, yes.
From what I understand, is the same--
you had the plans from the house
from the previous owner that you used.
-ANDY: Um-- -No, it wasn't the same plan.
-Again, with the lie. -Jo-Ellen, you were the first
person that was skeptical. -You know what?
I'm going to go get my-- my binder because I can't--
No--
No, I, like, can't deal with this.
No, but we're talking about you right now.
-I know, but she's literally-- -So if you leave,
we're not gonna be able to talk about you.
[sighs] It's like she just says random shit.
-All right. Well, let's-- -Like, it's too much.
Let me ask a question. Marie from Oregon said
"Rosie, Dolores said she felt like
you didn't like her being there
and that you were the reason she didn't film that much."
-Do I have power in this at all? -No.
Right. I couldn't even go get my binder.
Did you not like Dolores being there?
I met Dolores a handful of times,
and I thought she was nice every time.
I was very surprised to hear this.
Del from Wisconsin said,
"Rosie, I think you might be the first Housewife to admit
to bleeding out of your butthole.
Did you really have to leave your job
because you had to wear diapers?"
Well, I went on medical leave because of the colitis,
and then I realized how great life was
not getting up at 2:00 in the morning.
Getting up at 2:30 in the morning for 10 years,
15 years, that's hard, you know? -Yeah.
Kelsey, you still believe that she quit her job
because she was sleeping with a higher-up?
She "left" on medical leave. No.
Me and the entire state of Rhode Island
knows that she got fired
for having an affair with one of the higher-ups.
I don't think that the job, her leaving was necessarily
as...clean as she is describing it.
Maybe the affair rumors were really more
towards the basketball coach than it was her job.
There were relationships that were ruined with colleagues
because of some sort of... incident,
um, at her job, but I don't necessarily think that
that's why she...left.
The reality is I have the documentation.
I have everything in my briefcase back there
that I wanted to get.
I wanted to show you this.
What's in it?
It's more like what's not in it.
[gasps] Oh, my God. You really did come with your receipts.
I'm not even gonna bring it out 'cause it's, like, too big.
I was watching the show, learning new things
that I had done or being accused of, you know?
So it is what it is.
So, Alicia, tell me about when you and Billy first met.
Was it love at first sight?
-No, um, he was a stalker. -[all chuckle]
-He was a stalker? -Yeah, he was.
He was very persistent with me,
and, um, that's how he won me over.
I was like, been there, done that with dating, and he--
-He beat you down. -He beat me down.
-ANDY: Metaphorically. -Yeah.
Any wedding date yet?
No, but I'm actually talking about it, which is a big deal.
Who are you talking to about it?
-Billy and my daughter. -Okay, good.
Yeah, like, I have an idea.
It's not soon, but I think, like, to do, like,
you know, go to Greece. -Okay.
Billy's family's from Greece and all that.
But anyways, yeah, I wanna go there.
'Cause "Mamma Mia!" Like, you know, like, that whole vibe.
-The Italians and the Greeks. -Yeah.
I like that.
Now, we learned that Billy works a million hours,
uh, in all of his restaurants
and has the time to drive Celina to dance class.
-Yes. -Anything change on that front?
-No. [laughs] -No.
I'll do whatever it takes so you can drive to pick up Celina
from dance or drop her off.
It seemed like he took you through...the route.
Yeah.
And it seemed like you were gonna be able to do it.
It's, like, an hour there, and it's an hour back.
-Do you drive short distances? -All the time.
-You do? -Yes.
Anything over, like, 20 minutes I have to think about.
It's my anxiety.
[imitates New England accent] Let's talk crackers.
-I love a cracker. -[laughs]
A lot of people want to know
if you will come out with your own line of crackers.
So I am working on making my own cracker.
Who are you working on that with?
So, um, you know the oyster crackers?
-Yeah. -Them.
Oh, okay.
I just call them oyster crackers.
Right.
How do you stay so lean when you eat so many crackers?
"Janes" Fonda. I love "Janes" Fonda.
My Auntie Judy is the one that trained me on "Janes" Fonda.
-Okay. -She loves "Janes" Fonda,
so it stuck with me.
And so, but do you eat proteins?
-Not a lot. -No.
-I do almonds. -Elements.
-[chuckles] Almonds. -Almonds. Almonds.
-Almonds. -Almonds. Walnuts.
-Like, I'll do-- -Oh, almonds.
Yeah. Maybe a turkey pepperoni with, like, a cracker.
-Oh, okay. -Yeah.
Uh, Vicky from Kansas wants to know,
have you gotten more of a stake in Pizza Mamma?
Moving forward, if we open up Pizza Mammas,
am I ever gonna have, like, like, 5% ownership, 10%?
Am I ever gonna be, like, I am part owner of that?
Yeah, you can be.
I am getting, like, some of it.
Like, I guess the merch, which I just realized, too.
And for the next one, I guess? I don't even know.
See, that's the thing. And I don't get--
There's a lot of things, you know?
Kelsey is someone who knows how to get men to pay for things.
What do you think Alicia should do?
Having your own bank account is probably first and foremost.
Stuff that what you make, you put away for yourself...
-Yeah. -...and he can't touch.
All the money that you make with the show,
your endorsements, your cameos.
Do you not have your own bank account?
So I do, but my money goes into--
there's a woman that's in charge of my money now, so--
-Okay, do you know her? -We talked.
-ANDY: Okay. -[laughter]
This woman is in charge of everything.
-Who put the woman in charge? -Billy.
When you need money, you ask the woman or Billy?
I ask Billy 'cause it's like
I don't feel like texting this woman, Sarah,
you know, to be like, "Can I have this? Where's this?
How much am I getting paid for this?" And now I learned.
Like, she showed me everything recently, 'cause I had, like,
a little bit of a breakdown. -What'd she show you?
She was like, "This is your statements."
You know, I wanna see the statements.
-You know what I mean? -Well, word to the wise.
-Yeah. -You're potentially
about to start making more money than you ever made.
Right.
So I think you need to get a little bit of a handle on...
-I know. -...not only what you're making
but where it's going. -Yeah.
And that you're the one that has full access to it.
Yeah. I guess I never paid attention to it. I never cared.
Louis from Arkansas said, "Why doesn't Alicia
just have a lawyer negotiate a better prenup deal,
and Billy can put up or shut up?"
So we were gonna do that, but I almost got, like, "eff you."
He made me sign a prenup. He wanted me to.
So I went to the lawyers, and they said,
"He's not even leaving with you--with a penny. Nothing."
It shut me down. It made me realize it's not a fairy tale.
It's all about business. You know?
Who here in the cast has a prenup?
No one.
-You do. Rulla does. -We each have our own.
-You each have your own. -It was my idea.
I bet. It seemed to trigger the rest of the ladies
that Billy didn't put your name on the house.
-Is your name on the house yet? -So I'm in a trust.
This is what he tells me. "You're in a trust."
I have no idea what a trust is, and this is what frustrates me.
I just want, like, the easy old school thing.
I wanna see my name on the house.
-What's a trust? -Rulla?
It's a vehicle that they use, that you put assets in,
but there are people designated in the trust
to whom the asset passes on to. And... [laughs]
That's what I mean.
So this is why I feel like he does stuff like this.
He's, like, an attorney, and then when he tells me
about it, I get bored, and I feel like that's how
he took advantage of this, 'cause I'd be like,
"All right, next week. Don't bore me with this." You know?
Maybe you should ask to see the trust.
-I know. -That's all.
You know, Alicia, as I've gotten to know you and Billy more,
Billy would never, ever leave you without, like, half.
-I want you to be safe, too. -Yeah.
-But that is such a good man. -Yeah, he's the best.
He's all right.
Rosie, are you 50/50 on the house with Rich?
Yeah, and I paid for the house myself.
Well, Rich paid for half, obviously, but I sold my condo,
and then I put that money down. -Good.
You can keep looking at each other.
I can get the paperwork for you.
Well, I know you have two mortgages on your house, babe.
-We have a construction loan. -And--And a mortgage.
-Anyone can look at that. -It was bundled together.
-This is very normal. -But what does that--but what--
-A lot of people have mortgages. -She's making it seem--
She's making it seem like she just paid $689,000 for a house.
Babe, you have a mortgage with 10% down. Relax.
I never said that. That's not how normal people buy houses.
Did you look up her mortgage information?
-Someone sent it to me. -Yeah, I'm sure it was Gary,
who works in mortgages, but you're making it seem
as though, like, I can't afford a house.
I am sorry for whatever I've ever done to you to upset you.
-That's fine. -I don't want you
to be upset with me. Please accept my apology.
-Do you accept her apology? -Obviously not.
But I don't think it-- actions speak louder than words.
Like, you--you're just as bad as me,
so let's not say I'm the only mean girl here.
We're both doing it to each other.
After weeks of you attacking me, I attacked back.
Saying that she was, you know, at the pageant--
That my ex paid off the judges.
You keep doing nasty things to me.
-Yeah, I'm so nasty. -I'm sorry.
Let's hold there, and we will pick it up after the break.
Don't worry. I don't think you to be scary.
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Test one, two.
Brian, who you texting?
-Who am I texting? -[laughs]
Show you right here-- texting my father.
So how do you guys think the ladies are doing out there?
-What's the consensus? -Long day.
There's gotta be a couple wars.
So are you Team Kelsey or Team Rosie?
[laughter]
-[laughter] -Oh!
-Obviously, Team Rosie. -JARED: Did you hear the fight?
I wasn't there.
You're a fucking slam pig!
Don't ever fucking talk to me again!
-You're a slam pig! -I'm a pig?
Do you know what I liked about the fight when I watched it?
Oh, here we go.
I mean, honestly, what I enjoyed?
-Why are you liking this? -I'll tell you why.
'Cause in the background, all you heard was Jared.
-Oh, yeah. -That's the second fight.
-You wanna go home? -She's attacking me again.
-Bye, bye. Bye, bye. -I'm going home.
I'm going home. I'm fucking gonna go home.
-Bye-bye. Bye-bye. -I'm done with this shit.
JARED: [amplified voice] What is
the president's helicopter called?
I didn't know that fight had happened
until I watched the show. Alicia didn't tell me about it.
-Which one? -All of 'em.
-Oh. -Like, with Kelsey and Rosie.
-I had no idea. -Oh, yeah?
Alicia doesn't fill you in usually?
No, no, she's like, "I can't tell you. It was terr--
Oh, I don't--I can't tell you what happened. It was terrible.
I'm so stressed out. Bye. Bye. I gotta go."
-[laughter] -ANDY: Coming up next...
How long have you been with Brian?
-For nine and a half--10 years. -Really?
Then Brian is a polygamist
because he must have been married to you
and the Spanish teacher at the same time.
No, that's not the truth, Jo-Ellen.
Oh, I have proof.
Listen, look at the back of my dress right now.
-They had to sew it together. -What?
My boobs--both of them completely fell out.
What do you mean, you had to sew it together?
I went like this, and my boobs came down.
The whole dress came down.
And how long have you and Gerry been together?
-Almost 22 years. -Wow.
That's a long time.
Couple of stints off here and there.
-Listen... -RULLA: It happens.
-Everybody needs a break. -Yeah.
MAN: 3...2...
Welcome back
to "The Real Housewives of Rhode island" Reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen.
Kelsey, when you competed for Miss USA, the announcer
said... [imitating announcer] "Kelsey was once struck
by a drunk driver while she was at the hospital.
A neurologist discovered she had a brain tumor.
It's not a rumor. The doctors removed that tumor."
[normal voice] That's how the announcer said it.
Yeah. I didn't know that they were gonna say that
until I was walking on the stage,
but 2014, I got hit by a drunk driver.
My ex's brother was my lawyer, and he was like,
"Just make sure you have a little bit of a black eye.
I'll send you to get a CAT scan."
And they accidentally found a brain tumor.
I wanted to compete in the pageant,
and so I asked if they can hold off the brain surgery for it,
and they did.
You put off brain surgery to compete in the pageant?
Yeah. And it was the size of, like, almost a golf ball.
And if I didn't get it removed,
I would have lost all of my peripheral vision.
Wow.
Helen from Vermont said, "There's a rumor circulating
online saying that Kelsey may have been an escort
who charged 29K for dinner and dessert."
Have you heard that?
I've never sold any of my holes for money.
Let's just get that straight.
And I have, you know, proof of me
going to the state barracks for getting harassed by somebody,
stealing my photos, making fake pages of me, my Facebook--
And were you able to find the person who did it?
-No. I have no idea. -How would you book that person?
-All of a sudden, it stopped. -We don't know who this was?
No, I know it was some, I think, actual escort
in Boston who was hanging around the same crew of people
that I was hanging out with.
Not to float conspiracy theories,
but could it have been someone that your ex dated
who knew that you were with him and was trying to mess with you?
I don't think so. But I've never been an escort,
and I would never be an escort.
Zoe from Scottsdale said, "Kelsey, when you were
with your ex, you two had an agreement.
Can you explain exactly what the agreement was?"
So there was no "agreement." Right?
And that's why I don't really align with the polyamory...
title of it.
ANDY: You knew he was seeing other people.
Yeah. So I learned things the longer I was with him,
that there was somebody else, and then that kind of went away.
And then at that point, it was kind of like a free-for-all.
I didn't really know who he was with.
Were you ever jealous?
Um, at the beginning when there was one other person
in another state,
yeah, I'd be a little jealous until I met up with that person,
and we kind of had a mutual understanding and agreement
to not post each other with him online.
And after that, it kind of
was just like, out of sight, out of mind,
different state, don't care.
So that was happening in Miami while you were in Rhode Island?
-Yeah. -And you met the other woman?
Yes.
Does anyone else here know that other woman?
-Yeah, I know her. -I do.
-I've met her a few times. -ANDY: Is she still with him?
No, they haven't been together since 2020.
Oh. So does he have a new girlfriend?
-I'm sure he has women... -Right.
...that he takes out
and does a lot, you know? And I knew--
He was dating Paula Abdul for a while.
-He did before, yeah. -Before you.
Before me. I used to stay at Paula's house with him
when we went to L.A.
-They're friendly now. -Oh. How did you meet your ex?
So we met at a tanning salon, the one that Jo-Ellen worked at.
Really?
Um, because the owner of the tanning salon
and my ex were best friends.
-Wow. -Yeah.
Now your ex originally agreed to be on the show
and then changed his mind?
Yeah, well, before he knew it was "Housewives,"
he was on my casting tapes.
And then as soon as he knew it was "Housewives,"
he's like, "Eh, nope, not happening."
-Because? -He watches "Housewives."
And he was just like, "Girls aren't gonna be, you know,
talking about me, and I have no control over it."
But interestingly enough, he was very talked about.
Never have I ever been a polygamist.
-I thought Kelsey was that. -You thought Kelsey was what?
Like, her boyfriend has a girlfriend here
and a girlfriend in Florida, no?
What was his reaction to the show?
-He likes it. -He does?
-Yeah. -Where are you living now?
-I live with Bill. -You do?
-Yeah. I do. Yeah. -Wow, that's great.
Has your sugar daddy cut off your insurance payments
and car payments and stuff? -He has.
-Yes. -He has, yeah.
That's done. So who is paying those now?
Bill pays for my car.
Um, and I pay for my health insurance.
-Nice. -Yeah.
Liz, at dinner with Kelsey and Jo-Ellen,
you mentioned that you also had an ex-boyfriend
paying for things.
Anyone else been in a relationship like this? Rulla?
-[whispers] No. -ANDY: No? No?
You're missing out. [chuckles]
Rulla, how are you and Brian doing?
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Rulla, how are you and Brian doing?
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We're doing a lot better now, Andy.
Day by day, day by day, working on things.
Show of hands, who thinks that Rulla was really sick?
-Because it didn't seem like it. -It was stress-induced for sure.
I'm so sorry.
I'm not gonna be able to make it today, beautiful.
I was at the urgent care.
[coughs]
The day before the girls trip, I started to feel like
I was coming down with something,
legitimately so sick, I could die. I could.
I think it was mental, and it was causing havoc on your body.
Your body breaks down when you're stressed.
I was at the hospital twice and on my back for 14 days,
I was, like, so effing sick. But there's definitely stress,
and all that absolutely piled on the entire summer.
I'm not gonna lie.
The stress of what was going on in your marriage
was partly to blame for what kept you from Newport and from--
-Absolutely. -Yes.
You agreed it happened the whole entire summer
with Brian and the mistress?
I don't know.
I know that he was saying and doing things
so that she wouldn't go buck wild.
And that's what Brian was telling you?
Yes.
And so because he was telling you,
you were able to discount what Jo-Ellen was telling you?
Yes.
I have the text. Look.
That's her and his conversation.
Rulla, this is on her story right now.
Rulla, I think you should know what's in the video.
Brian is, like, consoling
and, like, caressing this blonde lady
and, like, kissing her.
If you want to see it, it's there for you.
I don't need to see it.
I was just wishing that all this stuff
would stop coming to me.
And obviously, that's part of the reason why
I was getting sick all the time and why I lost all the weight.
And I wish people could just respect the fact
that I'm trying to work on things.
You know, we had a tracking app. He'd be around.
I knew when he was at work. I knew when he was coming home.
-He wasn't staying over next-- -You had a tracking app on...
An app, like a joint app.
-You had each other's locations? -Yes.
So why was he tracking your car?
I have no idea.
Do you remember me telling you that he had a tracker on you?
Maybe. I can't recall clearly,
but maybe you did. -I said it.
Don't you track her? Because you told the mistress you did.
That was a long time ago. I don't track her.
Oh, no, no. She told me that, like, what, a week ago?
Brian told the mistress, "I'm tracking Rulla.
I wanna make sure that, you know, I know where she is
so she doesn't come when we're together."
And I don't know what your thoughts are right now
of when their relationship ended, but...
He was trying to keep her at bay and try to fizzle things off.
ANDY: We're gonna get into this.
The husbands are gonna be out in a little bit.
Let's move on.
So Alicia said that she had a Spanish teacher who...
-You. -...was married to Brian.
-I know her. -I'm sure you know her.
-Oh, yeah. -Brian's ex-wife.
Yes.
I don't know if this is true.
Rulla's husband cheated on his first wife,
my Spanish teacher, with Rulla.
I hope that's not true,
'cause I really did like my Spanish teacher.
Did you have an affair with Brian?
-No. God, no. -No.
No, Brian was already divorced a good year and a half,
two years before I was even introduced to him.
What year did you guys get introduced?
-Why? -I'm just wondering.
-No. -W\hat year did you get married?
When's your anniversary?
How long have you been with Brian? How long
have you been with Brian? -RULLA: Why?
Why can't you answer when your anniversary is?
We met in 2013.
Okay. And what year was Brian divorced?
2010.
And what year did you get married?
-2016. -2016. Okay.
Yeah. Why are you asking these questions?
Well, I'm just--I'm curious, because you said
they got divorced in 2010, right?
But they didn't get divorced in 2010. They got divorced in 2016.
Jo-Ellen. Jo-Ellen. He has the divorce document.
-So do I. So do I. -Don't even try to go there,
Jo-Ellen. Jo-Ellen... -Because he got divorced
in March of 2016. So when was your anniversary?
-Jo-Ellen. -What was the date?
-Jo-Ellen. -What's the date?
-Ask Brian when he comes. -You can't say your anniversary?
-That's none of your business. -When's your anniversary?
-What's the accusation? -Are they married?
ANDY: Oh, you don't think they're married.
-Oh, my God. -I don't know if they are.
-All right, Jo-Ellen-- -I don't know if they are.
I'm asking you, when is your anniversary?
-Is she serious right now? -I have no idea.
This is the first time I've heard this, so I'm trying--
I'm just asking, when's her anniversary?
-Are we married? -Why is that so hard?
You don't--Do you guys know your anniversary?
Mine's July 30th. I don't know why that's a hard question.
Rulla, are you legally married?
I am 100% legally married.
And you can't say the date that you got married?
-That's none of your business. -Okay.
When you got pregnant, was Brian still legally married?
-No. -Yes, he was.
No, that's not the truth, Jo-Ellen.
Oh, I have proof.
Who the fuck are you? You're a psychopath!
-I know. Thank you. -Oh, here we go.
I had a baby out of wedlock. It's not a big deal.
-Jo-Ellen. -Rulla, when's your wedding?
Oh, dear God.
Why are you going there, Jo-Ellen?
Rulla, I'm asking you a simple question.
We have been married for nine and a half, 10 years.
Really? Then Brian is a polygamist
because he must have been married to you
and the Spanish teacher at the same time.
♪♪♪
We have been married for nine and a half, 10 years.
Really? Then Brian is a polygamist
because he must have been married to you
and the Spanish teacher at the same time. It's so weird.
Well, this is news to my ears,
so why don't you go ahead and show us?
-He got divorced March of 2016. -Oh, my God.
-You got pregnant in February. -ANDY: Let's see it.
-All right, here we go. -What site are you on?
JO-ELLEN: This is CourtConnect. This is Rhode Island law.
-RULLA: Let me see. -Okay, here.
Maybe it's wrong.
It's court documents.
This doesn't tell me anything.
So it says filed on 7/7/2011, Jo-Ellen.
And when does it say it closed, Rulla?
When does the divorce finalize?
-3/24/16. -Ask him. Go ahead and ask him.
-The courts don't lie. -Ask him.
I think it's interesting. He has lied to you before,
so is it possible that he lied to you about these dates?
I have no idea. Ask him.
This is the first I'm hearing any of this, so...
If it is true, will you be upset?
How would you guys be married?
Because, Jo-Ellen, we get blessed by the priest,
and then we do it.
But I think that's, like, normal.
It's--It's-- This is none of your business.
I was just asking when your anniversary is.
I know it's difficult to talk about.
-You called me a liar. -But it's none of your business.
You called me a liar.
-I'm not a liar. -Because you do lie, Jo-Ellen.
I tell the truth every single time.
You know who you are, and you know what you have done.
-You've got rap sheets. -Rulla, did you get pregnant
while Brian was still married to his wife?
-No, Jo-Ellen. -Really? Because--
Unless he lied to me. No, Jo-Ellen.
-Okay. Okay. -He was living on his own.
Fine. The divorces take a while.
-Ask him. -All right. Hold that thought.
The men of "Rhode Island" are gonna join us.
Don't go anywhere.
We're taking a 5-minute break.
Hey, this is Gary reporting live.
[laughter]
Just one more tack just here it doesn't get snagged.
You guys feeling good going into it?
-I'm all right. -Good, man. How about you?
-I feel good. I'm ready. -I'm getting a little nervous.
Looks like you're ready for a mint julep.
-Who does? -He takes the fire off of us.
[laughter]
5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
-Perfect. -Perfect. Thank you.
-Thank you so much, Jared. -Thank you. I appreciate it.
I love your dress.
-Hi, Bill. -Good to see you guys.
You're all the way at the top there.
-Okay. -Thank you.
Pack? His pack?
[laughs]
Everyone's looking at his pack.
♪♪♪
Wipe your lips.
Ashley, how you doing?
-Hi. -Well, you look beautiful.
-Hi, honey. Mwah. -Gerry, is that Armani?
-Wow. -He looks fantastic.
You guys look beautiful. I'd kiss everyone,
but I won't mess anyone's makeup on.
-I fucking stink. -No, you don't.
-No, I do. Then-- -That's mine. Then you do.
-Hi, boys. -Beautiful.
-I love that dress. -Oh, shut up, Billy.
[laughs]
You look good, babe. Beautiful.
JO-ELLEN: We were just screaming at each other.
I was like, "When's your anniversary?"
She's like, "I'm not telling you."
Have fun. Get ready.
[exhales deeply]
What a production.
Okay. I'm situated.
MAN: 3...2...
Welcome back.
We are joined by the husbands, boyfriends, and fiancés
of "Rhode Island"--
Jared, Rich, Brian, Gerry, Billy, Gary, and Bill.
-Hey, guys. -How you doing, Andy?
-How we doing? -Gerry, mazel on the grandbaby.
-Thank you. -Very exciting.
Bill, are you picking, uh,
the lemon seeds out for Kelsey now?
-Every single one of 'em. -Wow, that's a man.
Billy, how's the pizza business going?
-Good. -Brian, how's the bunion biz?
Bunion business is great. Staying a step ahead, you know?
[laughter]
Rich, how are Sinatra Sundays going?
-We added a second show. -All right. Really?
Yeah. Yeah.
Do you have groupies?
No, I don't think I have groupies.
I'm a little bit too old to have groupies now, but, um--
Technically, I was kind of your groupie.
-In your music video... -Oh, in my music video.
-...I was your groupie. -Yeah, yeah, yeah.
♪♪♪
♪ Everything I see reminds me of you ♪
-Yeah, yeah, you were, you were. -[laughs]
Jared, did you fix the ice machine yet?
-Oh. -[laughter]
The ice machine's not working again? Fuck me.
-How's the ice machine? -I called the mechanic,
and he's just a little backed up right now.
You know what's funny is that the guy who manufactured it
reached out to me and was like, "I wanna fix it for you."
[laughter]
He was very nice about it, but ice machine's working great.
Gary, you got a lot of play
for going shirtless in the sauna.
I think it's the dad bod. Dad bods are in right now, so...
Lizzie in Delaware said, "Gary and Jo-Ellen,
can you straighten out your timeline for us?
First comes Jen, then comes Jo-Ellen.
How far after Jen did you and Jo-Ellen start dating?"
I think it was during high school that I met Jo-Ellen.
And then after high school that we started getting together,
and I definitely knew Jen first.
We were in all our classes together in high school,
became really good friends,
best friends, actually, for a guy and a girl, um,
that didn't sleep together, might I add.
You know, Jen was always kind of around as a friend,
but obviously turned to the younger sister.
Would you ever donate your sperm to Jen?
-I would not donate my sperm. -Thank you.
-Why not, Gary? -No, Alicia!
No, I would not donate.
No deposits being made over here.
But you did touch her boobs in seventh grade.
I did get a nice fistful of boob in seventh grade.
[laughter]
Well, welcome, all of you, to your first reunion.
I hear you guys are actually good friends.
-Yeah. -We all had breakfast together
this morning. -Is that right?
-Yeah. -Yeah.
And, uh, we went on a walk with Clemmy.
That's nice. James from Delaware tweeted,
"The Newport mansion the Housewives stayed in
was so cool, but, guys, did you worry
when you saw your partners flirting with the butlers?"
I was pissed about Boris, honestly.
[laughter]
Oh, my God, Boris! Look at these washboard abs!
-I wasn't pissed. He was, uh... -I don't like young boys.
-...way too young for her. -Right, right, right.
Kelsey, now that you're only with Bill,
is there a timeline for weddings and babies?
Um...no. I feel like life's just getting exciting now.
So, like, I think for him, when I--when I say go, he'll drop.
Right?
-Absolutely. -Drop.
-Explain drop. -You're ready to go.
He'll drop on one knee and propose.
Yeah. I thought he'd drop your shorts. [laughs]
I thought you meant drop the sperm.
-Oh. -Oh, God.
-That, too. -ANDY: Okay.
So, Bill, in the show, you said you waited a year
to have sex while she was still sleeping with the ex.
-Yeah, pretty much. -He doesn't want to admit it.
Yeah, no, I don't wanna admit that.
It's a lot of, uh, a lot of alone time.
These hands got a lot of work.
[laughter]
ANDY: Okay.
That's graphic. Kelsey, there was some question
relating to the timeline of your breakup
as it related to production of the show.
You two were actually at odds
for, like, a year. Is that right?
Yeah. There have been times where I've broken up with him
two, three times in one year.
I didn't sleep at the house. I did sleep at the house.
You know, people would see me out with Bill,
and they wouldn't even know I was with [bleep].
I mean, I get it. My relationship's very complex
for a lot of people to understand.
Gerry, on the show, we heard from Liz that Dino
is a good friend of yours as well.
The rumors are about Dino and me--
like, we had this torrid affair.
It's a mortifying accusation.
How were you affected by the rumors
of Liz and Dino's--
Not affected. We're great friends.
And he's become more famous than us, I think. [laughs]
Gerry, uh, earlier today, Liz said that when
you and she were separated, Rulla and Brian called you
and told you that Liz was with another man.
I went to Block Island with my girlfriend and, um,
met up with someone I hadn't seen in, like, 30 years.
The next day, Gerry got a phone call at 6 a.m.,
and it was Rulla and Brian.
Rulla said she did not call you.
Did Rulla and Brian call you? Who called you?
No, a friend of ours called me...
-Thank God. -...and put you on the phone.
-Oh. -Wait, what?
-Okay. No, friend of yours... -I'm like...
...called and put Brian on the phone?
-Yes. -Okay.
♪♪♪
Gerry, earlier today,
Liz said that when you and she were separated,
Rulla and Brian called you
and told you that Liz was with another man.
Rulla said she did not call you.
Did Rulla and Brian call you? Who called you?
-No, a friend of ours called me. -Thank God.
-And put you on the phone. -Yeah.
-Wait, what?
-Okay, no, friend of yours... -I'm like...
...called and put Brian on the phone?
-GERRY: Yes. -ANDY: Okay.
So Brian was on the phone, and did Brian--
Brian was on the phone with me.
And did Brian tell you that Liz was with another man?
She was dancing with another man, yes.
-[laughs] -Okay.
-I didn't know who he was. -Okay. I didn't know
any of this, just so you guys know.
A friend kept saying--He goes,
"Look, I'll put him on the phone."
-And he put you on the phone. -Oh. He's like, hey--
he asked me the question, I think.
And I said, I think so. I didn't even know he was talking to you.
I just wanted--thank you, both, because that was the objective.
Did you do it so that it would get back to him?
We were separated.
All his friends were around me all night.
RULLA: Yeah, of course.
We certainly didn't try to hide it.
Billy, congratulations on your re-proposal.
♪♪♪
All right. Alicia,
will you do the honor of marrying me again?
Would I do the honor?
Well, will you marry me again?
-I would, yes. -I mean, come on!
Have you amended the prenup?
[laughs]
Great question.
That was a quite loud, nervous laugh
that you just let out.
Um...it's a touchy subject.
I mean, look, that was, I think, eight years ago.
I wish I'd handled it differently.
-And, um... -Do you?
-I do, actually. -I like that.
-Okay, that's growth. -How do you wish you handled it?
Well, I think because I was an attorney,
I sent a one-sided agreement
so her attorney wouldn't spend money drafting an agreement.
And I literally said in the email to her attorney,
"This is just a draft. Just tell us what Alicia needs
to be comfortable, uh, moving forward."
-Yeah. -And her attorney did.
And I had gotten an attorney as well.
And we pretty much agreed to almost everything
she asked for, but I think she was so upset
from the initial way that it came off to her--
Because I'm not a lawyer, and I
was mad that I had to do that. -But I told her.
What was your job before you got in the food business?
I was always in the food business 'cause of my family.
But I was a corporate M&A attorney.
So you're savvier than the average pizza guy?
-Oh, yeah. -Sometimes.
-To say the least. -I asked her about the house.
-She said it's in a trust? -Yes.
But that she doesn't fully know what that means.
Correct. She can just come with me
to the estate attorney and go through it.
It's so boring. I just want a quick answer.
[laughter]
Are you sensitive to her feelings of
not being a full enough participant in your finances?
Yeah, I actually have consistently
and persistently recommended monthly meetings
to go over our finances, and--
-Alicia? -[laughs]
A meeting?
[laughter]
[laughter continues]
-What are you gonna do? -I know, but I mean,
it sounds like he's trying to address some of your concerns.
He's doing it because he knows it's so long and boring
and dragged out, and I'm not gonna go for it.
Rulla, can you help her, please?
This is gonna take me a long time. We need a date.
She's not gonna wanna go on that date.
[laughter]
Billy, I'm...starting to sympathize with you.
[laughter]
The money talk-- my brain shuts down.
That's what he's for. Look, I was also a hairstylist.
I didn't have to look at computers and emails.
It's a whole diff--I didn't have to report to Sarah.
-You know, like, it's-- -[laughter]
I don't--I don't know this stuff.
-ANDY: Who's Sarah? -She's the office manager.
Oh, she's the office manager.
-And bookkeeper. -Ann from Vermont said,
"Alicia, I caught your story that said, 'Asking for a friend,
do you think it's okay if your spouse takes your money
and pays bills without asking,
and you never see your money or your check?'"
So are you that friend, Alicia?
I left it up for, like, maybe five minutes just to--
you know, 'cause I was mad, and I deleted it.
But anyways, so what happened was Sarah--
this is how it all came out.
I was like, I wanna know where my stuff is going,
but I guess I had to talk to Sarah.
And so I got mad at him.
Because I need--I don't-- like, I just--
I just hate that I have to go through someone else sometimes.
-I set up an S corp for her. -He doesn't believe it.
-Billy, quiet. -I set up a corporation for her.
-Love you, but... -...for when she did events,
she can expense things. -Corporation.
And so we expensed some of-- a few things,
and Sarah showed it all to her,
and we copied her on emails for a while.
So I'm just trying to help her out from a tax perspective
so she doesn't get hit out at the end of the year.
He knows I don't understand. Like, he knows me.
-[laughs] -We talked earlier.
Sounds like she went back on driving Celina to dance.
-Yes. -How's that going?
Um, well, I'd be willing to give Alicia more
if she just drives Celina to or from dance.
-Okay. -So with that said, Alicia,
I have something here for you.
Oh, please. What?
-Oh. -Ooh.
Oh, God. It's an updated prenup.
-ANDY: What do you got? -I got a little agreement.
"Billy gives to Alicia in exchange for..."
You're shaking.
-...of Pizza Mamma. -Aw!
There's some obligations that you have to fulfill
in the agreement, um, with respect
to dance transport, so...
-Does my mom count? -But just once or twice a week.
He's giving you 50% of the shares of the thing...
-Alicia. -...for driving.
-I wouldn't even want 50, Billy. -You don't want half?
-No. -He's giving you half.
-Take it. -Look it...
Does the cast think she should sign it?
-[all voicing assent] -Yeah, sign it.
-Sign it, sign it. -Hey, Billy.
-I kind of feel bad, Billy. -It's a milestone for you.
ANDY: I mean, she should maybe read it first.
We've had a Housewife who didn't read documents that her husband
gave her before, and it didn't go great.
I would read it, but I don't wanna be liable.
"I don't wanna be liable." [laughs]
Right? Yeah.
-Alicia, congratulations. -Yes.
-Yeah. -I know. Thank you.
-Honestly, Billy, thank you. -You're welcome.
Okay, last but not least, Brian, how are you feeling tonight?
-Feeling great. You know? -You feel great.
You know, sometimes, Andy, you have to hit
rock bottom before the Lord can bring you back up.
You know, some would argue that going on a reality show
while an affair is in progress or towards the end
would be...risky at best.
Did you think...
"Oh, well, this is gonna come out"?
Well, unfortunately, Andy, because of legal reasons,
I can't really comment too well on that.
ANDY: What are the legal reasons?
Well, you know, I'm bound by a nondisclosure agreement, so...
You're in a lawsuit with this person? Yes?
I'm in a lawsuit with the individual, yes.
-Well, let's bring her out. -[gasps]
-Just kidding. -[laughter]
I don't care, man. Bring--Bring her out.
I don't care. I honestly don't care.
I thought I just saw a ghost.
My apologies. You were in a lawsuit with this person.
And what is the nature of the lawsuit?
I don't think you can speak to that, can you?
Yeah, can't really speak to that.
You can't speak to what the lawsuit is?
-I mean, that's ridiculous. -I can speak to it.
-Okay. -He opened the business.
He made this individual
and another individual part owners...
to keep them engaged. -Keep her engaged.
And this is before anything was going on.
-Okay. -Okay? Let's be clear.
Did you know that he made her a part owner?
-He told me. -Okay.
I wasn't thrilled.
And so yada, yada, yada, fast forward,
they gave up their shares back to him.
-What am I forgetting? -A lot.
-He can't say. -This was years ago?
One individual ended up suing Brian--
she was a nurse practitioner-- for some funds.
-And then Brian ended up suing-- -I can--this is our--
Go ahead. Say it then. You said, "What am I forgetting?"
-I was helping you. -Not everybody makes it
their business to go poking in other people's business.
I do. I have nothing better to do.
-I'm unemployed. Thanks, Brian. -On "Watch What Happens Live,"
you said that... -No, Jo-Ellen, don't accuse.
-That's not why. -"You're gonna hurt her..."
'Cause you used your company card
for things that you can't afford.
-What are you talking about? -Okay, so the business.
-Yeah. So the lawsuit happened. -Okay.
They all had to sign an NDA.
Okay. To all of the men, would you have come on a show
if you were in the middle of an--an affair?
Absolutely not.
Rich?
Oh. [chuckles] No, I probably wouldn't do that.
-Oh. No, they're asking us? -[laughter]
He's already zoned out.
I'm nervous sitting next to Brian.
[laughter]
So let's go to the polo match.
Oh, no. What happened?
-Oh, boy. -I think I should put heels on.
All right, you're gonna call an ambulance or...
...so we could have seen eye to eye.
His mom is heading to the hospital, so we have to go.
Brian, there's a theory online your mom wasn't sick.
The phone call came from the mistress
threatening to show up.
So you went to calm her down,
and then you came back to polo with Rulla.
♪♪♪
Oh, Brian and Rulla are here.
And then she posted the picture in the car.
The mistress just posted in his red interior car.
I'll speak to the facts of that day.
We left Angelo's, which is in Cumberland.
We drove to Lincoln. I dropped her off at home
because she said, "If we go by your parents' house..."
My in-laws were watching the kids.
She said, "If the kids see me and everything's okay,
you know, they're gonna wanna come home."
I wanted to go back to polo.
I went to my house 'cause when the kids see me,
maybe unlike yours, mine are very attached to me.
-Wow. -If they were to see me,
they would be crying. They would.
-BRIAN: Yeah. -I get it. Did you believe
that Brian was going to the hospital at that time?
No one ever said that he was going to the hospital.
His mom is heading to the hospital,
so we have to go.
My mother-in-law did not end up being taken to the hospital.
So where did he go if he didn't go to the hospital?
My parents live two and a half miles from our house.
Are you with Brian now, or no, he's at the hospital?
RULLA: He's not here right now. He's with his mom and dad.
My parents live in Lincoln. I'm surprised you haven't
done the research on this. -No, I know that, of course.
[bleep] sleeps there.
Didn't your dad find her underwear in the bed?
-What are you talking about? -Oh, I have the text of that.
-Jo-Ellen, no need. -ANDY: Um--
-Anyway... -Andy, I'm not--
-BRIAN: Andy, so-- -You can talk about my kids.
I can't talk about dirty panties in his dad's bed?
-Okay. -How many dirty panties have
you left in other men's beds?
-Uh, none. -Sorry, Gary.
Brian says your butt smells like garlic, just so you know.
-[all groan] -He tells everyone.
-I don't even eat garlic. -Just so you know.
-Hold on. -Nobody's cleaner than you.
-Butts do smell-- -I don't even eat garlic.
-Like garlic. -Well, I mean, butts smell.
-I don't eat-- -No, butts smell.
-Do they smell like garlic? -What is going on?
I've now heard everything.
[laughter]
That's not even funny, though, Alicia.
-That's ridiculous. -ANDY: Okay. All right.
In any event, I went home, and that day,
I had my black Hummer all day. I didn't have my other car...
-He was in the black car. -...the Porsche that had
a red interior, which I know a lot of cars do come with that.
So what happens is I go home,
and then she's like, "We're going to polo."
And I re-gelled my hair. It was a very hot day.
And the wedding ring is right in my cup holder.
I thought you took your ring off to do your son's hair.
Where's your fucking wedding ring?
Well, actually, mine-- Where's my wedding ring?
-Mine's in my car. -And where's your wedding ring?
Mine's in my car, 'cause I just put gel in my son's hair.
Yeah, well, I took it off at my parents' house.
It was in my pocket. We went back to my house,
did my hair, and you know, so that was it.
But I mean, it's a preposterous thing
to keep--keep harping on.
Jo-Ellen, I'm assuming you're gonna pull out something.
[chuckles] Thank you, Andy. I was.
So the picture that she posted
of that, uh, Chanel bag in your red car...
♪♪♪
All right. [gasps] Liz!
You liked it, you fucking idiot.
Now, just out of curiosity,
on July 17, 2025, we were filming during then.
Client, Mr. Brian Pontarelli, purchased a Chanel bag. $4,100.
It's the same bag. I checked. The same style number.
-Okay. -Your name, your client number.
Was that for Rulla, or was that for the other one?
♪♪♪
Your name, your client number.
Was that for Rulla, or was that for the other one?
Uh, unfortunately, for legal reasons, I can't.
-I can't speak about that. -The legal reasons
are about your business. It's not about purchasing a bag.
You're a lawyer now? You're a lawyer?
-He is. -Well, there's nothing illegal
about you saying, no, you didn't buy her a bag.
The only person I've ever bought a Chanel bag for is my wife.
Is that you right there? Is that your purse?
-That's not me. -Okay, gotcha.
[Jo-Ellen sniffs]
ANDY: Okay, uh, lots to unpack here.
How many of you had heard rumors
about Brian before filming started?
-You all did? -Gary ran into them.
Gary, where'd you run into them?
Yeah, where--
I was at Hemenway's in Providence, and, um,
I-I actually know the mistress as well.
Her kids went to daycare with our kids.
So I knew her and her ex-husband,
and I saw them in a restaurant,
and they came right up,
and, uh, she introduced him as her boyfriend to me.
-No, that was-- -And I didn't know--
-Really? -I didn't know Brian
at the time-- -That was a--
So I-I didn't think anything of it. So...
-How long ago? -We were taken to Hemenway's
by one of our reps.
You know, it was a business-- business dinner.
She still said it was her boyfriend.
What's your reaction to that?
I mean, obviously, it doesn't make me happy,
but I know that reps have taken them to Hemenway's.
So I don't know. I wasn't there.
Earlier, Brian, Rulla said that you got divorced
from the Spanish teacher in 2010,
and you two married in 2016.
Jo-Ellen showed us a court document
that showed that you didn't get divorced until March of 2016.
Explain to them, 'cause she just pulled this up
and was so adamant, as she always is.
So please explain. I don't know about this.
Yeah, I was divorced-- Yeah, I was divorced in--
I was divorced in September of 2012.
And what year was Brian divorced?
2010.
-[clicking teeth] -She's pulling something up...
I'm not sure what the document is.
...and keeps making a case, so you handle it.
But, I mean, at this point, can I ask Jo-Ellen something?
-Sure. -Like, what's your point?
-Do you have a tissue? -Like, what's your goal
and your end point of everything that you've been doing...
-Thank you for asking me that. -...and saying and doing?
-I'm just curious. -Yeah, no, um, I think that
my point is I continuously was called a liar,
and I keep on finding lies.
If you're a girl's girl, and you wanna profess yourself--
Rulla, I'm not a girl's girl to you anymore. Get it straight.
Okay, well, you were though, right? We were talking
about last season, right? -I was, until you kept on--
-You called my job. -You know what?
And you told me that I lied 50 times.
I didn't call your job. Correct yourself.
She was being called a liar the whole time,
and she wants to prove that she wasn't a liar.
She'll take it to the grave. That's how she is.
She's not gonna be called a liar when she has facts of the truth.
You know, the court documents don't lie that you had this case
going on and on and on and on and on,
and you didn't get divorced until March of 2016.
You guys are lying. I mean, there's--it's on the internet.
I'm not lying about anything, Jo-Ellen. I took his word.
We obviously have gotten married again.
He wouldn't be able to get married if he weren't divorced.
-Of course. Right. -I agree.
ANDY: Let's move on.
Rulla, going on a reality show when your husband is...
in the midst or ending an affair
seems like you're potentially putting yourself...
through something.
What was your mindset?
Yeah, so I thought it had ended at that point.
You know, he promised everything was done at that time.
-When did it end? -It doesn't matter, Jo-Ellen.
-It's just done. -Brian, could you just
tell us when it ended. -JO-ELLEN: You said all summer
that I was lying. -And then we can put it--
-She's not gonna stop. -She thinks I was being lied to.
-Listen-- -November 2nd. How about that?
"Can't wait to be the best boyfriend fiancé to you.
I know you think I do a lot. You're so appreciative.
But there's so much more I want to do."
-That's what you texted her. -No, I didn't.
It has the date stamp on it.
Let me... [clears throat] All right.
-I know. -I mean, I have, like,
57 more things. -I mean, we know your goal.
Well, just fucking own it. Own it.
-Okay, so hold on. He's not-- -I just wanna--
Hold on. He's not denying
that he had an affair with this woman.
-I didn't know. -No, we all know
you didn't know. We just need Brian to tell us
when it ended, and then we can all move on.
'Cause we know it's not your fault.
-You didn't do this, Rulla. -You know what? I-I'd like--
-No, Rulla, no-- -It's not your fault. It's his.
Yeah, Rulla, there's no ill will towards you.
RULLA: I am a victim. So where is the real sympathy?
-You keep on deflecting. -I'm not deflecting, Jo-Ellen.
He's guilty, but it's done.
But you know what? It just ended.
And respect the fact that sometimes there's love.
Let him tell you that it just ended.
Here's the thing. She's not gonna stop until...
I support you trying make your marriage work. I support that.
-...he says when it ended. -Okay. So--
That's--I agree with Rosie.
Okay, Rosie, you are trying to coach Rulla to do what?
I think that we all agree that Rulla did not know about this.
-Okay. -And she definitely was
believing things and, you know, wants to believe her husband.
Of course. That's how affairs work.
If Brian can just admit when it ended officially,
we can all agree that Rulla did not know it was continuing
to go on, and then Jo-Ellen will not keep bringing stuff up,
and then we can all just, like, move forward.
When did it end?
Unfortunately, because of the nondisclosure,
I can't speak of that. -No, no, no, no, no.
-It's ridiculous. -[all speaking at once]
I can tell you the last time. I can tell you the date.
So if you don't wanna say it, I can.
-What I will say is that... -I know this.
...I have not seen my former partner
since October of last year. -ANDY: Okay.
-Okay. -ANDY: All right.
JO-ELLEN: What, he said October of last year?
-Yes. -October last year.
-Survey says? -That's disgusting.
-Survey says that's a lie. -That was a lie, sir.
-Yeah, um, I have the proof. -Oh, boy.
It's--you're sending her pictures of your son.
You're sending your son's Christmas list.
-No, I posted-- -How would I have
a picture of you sending-- -Because I posted
my son's Christmas list. She downloaded it.
No, it's in a text message to her.
And you guys have some kind of phone.
Jo-Ellen, do you know if it's over now,
according to your proof? -It's fine. Whatever.
-Is it over now? -It ended this year.
-That's fine. It's over now. -Okay, so it is over now.
-It's over now. -And they've decided
to move forward and try to stay together.
-I'm happy for them. -And I know you--
-I know you didn't-- -What's up with this year now?
Like, why does she keep saying this year?
No, nothing. I have no idea why, because--
He's not even allowed to see this person.
Legally, I can't even see this person.
Either they're breaking the law...
-Now. Now. -Rulla, it is your impression
that the affair ended when?
-I don't know, around October... -Okay.
-...last year. -What about penis into vagina?
So when the show was filming last year,
you believed that the affair was over.
-Yeah. -Now you feel like
it was actually happening.
And as much as you hate Jo-Ellen for it,
she's the one that's proving to you,
so you should be, like, happy that she's bringing it to light.
No, you know what? I'm not blaming you for the info,
but I'm blaming you for continuing to put it out there
and invade my privacy.
Why aren't you blaming Brian for continuing to put it in her?
-I don't know what else to say. -ANDY: Okay.
So I think Brian should say, "Yes, I fucked up."
-Exactly. -"I was this, I was that."
And you should say, "You know,
I didn't do this because I loved Rulla and I wanted..."
Or out of any goodwill.
"I did this to show everybody that I was telling the truth."
Rulla, it was reported that you went to the police
with a tracker in your car.
Did you know that going to the police
might lead to your husband's arrest?
No, I honestly did not know.
So, Brian, why did you have a tracking device
on Rulla's car?
Yeah, and that case has been dismissed,
so I mean, I can't really talk about it.
-Okay. -Well, if it's been dismissed,
why can't you talk about it? -Why are you here...
-I can't talk about it. -...if you can't say anything?
I'm assuming that you were tracking her
because you were in the midst of an affair,
and you didn't want her-- -No, well,
I can still defend myself, even though I can't speak.
So, basically, you know, I pled not guilty.
I'm glad that that incident happened, because what happened
is the state initiated a no contact order.
And for four weeks, I couldn't talk to her. I couldn't see her.
I couldn't be near her, and so it made me realize
how much I love her, how much I miss her,
and how much I couldn't wait to be with her.
If my husband put a tracker on my car...
-Yeah. -[blows raspberry]
-Without you knowing. -That's not okay.
Rosie and I have each other's location all the time, but--
It's creepy.
I know, but sharing your location...
-We're sharing our location. -Right, right.
-When you put a tracker on-- -Rulla, you--okay, hold on,
Rulla, I mean, as he was just talking about it,
I mean, I'm looking at your face,
I feel that you're still not over this.
Oh, of course. It's very upsetting.
I mean, I...I'm traumatized.
ANDY: How did you forgive him?
It's--It's not really to say that he's been forgiven.
ANDY: Do you trust him?
Uh...that...would need to be earned back.
Trust is earned. I need to earn that back.
That just doesn't come back overnight.
-I mean-- -That will take me a long time.
You've come back from an arrest and a restraining order...
-Mm-hmm. -...to salvage your marriage.
You obviously feel that there's something
worth fighting for here.
I think...
we really have had a lot of love between us since the beginning.
And, yes, that was fractured.
And it--it hurts.
♪♪♪
It's painful every day.
♪♪♪
We really have had a lot of love between us since the beginning.
And, yes, that was fractured.
And it--it hurts.
♪♪♪
It's painful every day.
Every relationship goes through phases,
up and down, up and down.
And if the whole goal is--is for the family to stay together,
that she's the glue that holds our family together.
You know, just because someone makes
a series of sins against the other person
doesn't mean that,
you know, that you just throw it away.
And I'm trying to be a better person,
be a better husband, continue to be a good father.
So what are you gonna do if he does this again?
There's no-- this won't happen again.
-If it does, I don't-- -So this is his last chance.
There's--There's no forgiveness.
Okay.
You know you're better than him? Okay.
-ANDY: Um... -I agree, Ashley.
All right. I wanna thank the men of "Rhode Island"
for joining us today and all season long.
We are gonna leave it there. We're gonna be right back.
-Thanks, guys. -Hey, thank you, Andy.
-You're all done. -Okay. Bye-bye.
RULLA: Could I have water?
Oh!
-That's what I wanted to hear. -Mmm.
Now I'm having a good night.
-Are you okay? -No.
This is, like, the most effed up thing.
I don't know how you're surviving, and...
Gerry, go kiss your wife.
I'm so tired of this. And then you can't even say anything.
It's, like, taxing.
I like the eyelashes. They did a good job on the makeup.
Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
Yeah, you can just put it right there.
I'm so sorry.
ASHLEY: I really, really wanna call him a slam pig.
I mean, good for you for trying to stick it out, but just,
it's, like, hurtful, almost, like, to be supportive.
It shows how much you love Rulla
that you're willing to come into this,
deal with this, like, head on.
I would also say you've gotta tell Rulla everything.
-It never ends if you don't. -So are you just finding out
that he was until October right now?
Yeah. No, like, I knew there's still communication.
-Bye. -Everyone looks beautiful.
-You did great. -Thank you.
♪♪♪
But the point is, like, I didn't realize
that there was, like, anything, like, of substance.
You know what I mean? It's not okay.
I feel bad that it was going on so much longer.
Seems like it might have been, like, Christmas.
-I'll have to find out. -ASHLEY: Why has he done this?
ROSIE: Like, why is he doing this?
He's an idiot, and she's crazy, and he's an idiot.
He's...really something.
You guys should thank me for coming to my show.
[laughter]
-Thank you. -Thank you, Brian.
-Oh. -Whoo-hoo!
I feel like there's so much that can be uncovered
about different people, their characters,
and other things that really isn't being uncovered.
Yeah, that's...
Get the party started.
MAN: 5, 4, 3, 2...
We are back with final thoughts
from "The Real Housewives of Rhode Island"
Season One Reunion.
Congratulations, ladies. You have made it. I am curious.
Now that you've finished your first season,
I'd love to know if there's anything
you would do differently.
Ashley, I wanna start with you.
I would have tried to be a little less nervous.
I would have tried to be more chatty.
I would have tried to initiate some more fun
and maybe be a more vocal mediator at times.
Rosie?
Well, I definitely wouldn't have
called Kelsey or asked if she was a polygamist.
And honestly, like, I just hope moving forward, like,
me and Kelsey can at least,
like, be in the same room, you know? So...
ANDY: Kelsey?
As much as she wants it, I would like it, too.
I think just from my standpoint,
it's very hard to make friendships
with somebody on a TV show
and feel like everyone's being authentic.
Rosie, if you're sincere about wanting to be friends,
then we have to do that off the show.
-We have to hang out... -Yeah.
-I would like that. -...when cameras aren't around.
-ROSIE: I agree. -ANDY: Rulla?
I would have shut things down harder, even sooner,
but I don't know that it would have worked.
Jo-Ellen?
I would probably change the way that I went towards Rulla
about things and maybe done it a little bit more privately.
I also would say I would like to be a better mediator
and, you know, make sure that I have Liz's back.
Liz?
I would try to control, react, police, and care less.
-ANDY: All right. -All four.
That's good.
Okay. Alicia?
I wish I wore more makeup and stuff.
I really hate looking at my scar on camera.
-This little thing? -Yeah, my dog bit my face.
I actually wish I did my scar for my dog,
so that's what I would change, and that's it.
You would just change the scar on your face?
I would.
[chuckles]
It is a tradition around here
to end reunions with a celebratory toast,
so I think this calls for some Dirty Shirleys.
Now, what is in a Dirty Shirley? Will you--
ROSIE: It's a Shirley Temple with vodka.
-But first... -Yes?
I would like to present to you...
-We all had masks at dinner. -Yes.
What the heck am I walking into?
What am I supposed to do, not eat and drink?
-Hello! -Oh, hello.
Oh, my God. That is unbelievable, Liz.
I love it.
-Gonna present you this mask. -That's actually very cute.
-Me? -And it--yes.
You are our King of Rhode Island.
-And there's... -Wow.
-...seven points. -ANDY: For each of you.
It doesn't represent a façade
because you are still the king when you...
-That is so nice. -Wow, thank you.
Oh, I love it.
It's maybe going in the clubhouse. Thank you.
-That's awesome. -Thank you very much.
-That's a very thoughtful gift. -That's King Andy Cohen.
-I actually like that. -Let me just pass these out.
Delicious.
I see you didn't pick out the seeds.
-No. -Thank you so much.
Alicia, you wanna lead us in a toast?
Me? Okay.
I am so proud of all of us girls this year.
-I love all of you guys... -Thank you.
And thank you so much for giving us this opportunity.
We're so blessed. Thank you for believing in us.
-You do Rhode Island proud. -Thank you.
For more with the "Housewives," click around bravotv.com.
Cheers, everybody.
-HOUSEWIVES: Cheers. -To Rhode Island.
To Rhode Island, bitch.