1 00:00:13,930 --> 00:00:15,890 [host] About an hour ago, a big crowd 2 00:00:15,974 --> 00:00:17,851 walked in our stage door, 3 00:00:17,934 --> 00:00:19,602 and it was Jayne Mansfield. 4 00:00:19,686 --> 00:00:20,895 [applause] 5 00:00:20,979 --> 00:00:23,982 Here she is, the lovely Jayne Mansfield. 6 00:00:24,107 --> 00:00:26,860 [applause continues] 7 00:00:31,448 --> 00:00:34,367 [unsettling tone resonating] 8 00:00:34,451 --> 00:00:38,997 - [applause intensifies] - [shrill, punctuated droning] 9 00:00:39,122 --> 00:00:40,623 [cacophony ends abruptly] 10 00:00:46,963 --> 00:00:48,673 [birds chirping] 11 00:00:52,469 --> 00:00:55,638 [gentle, pensive instrumentals playing] 12 00:00:57,182 --> 00:00:58,391 [projector clicks] 13 00:01:00,727 --> 00:01:01,853 [projector clicks] 14 00:01:04,147 --> 00:01:05,273 [projector clicks] 15 00:01:07,484 --> 00:01:09,944 [camera shutter snapping rapidly] 16 00:01:24,834 --> 00:01:27,754 [music intensifies slightly] 17 00:01:39,891 --> 00:01:41,226 [Jayne] I feel like Mother Goose 18 00:01:41,351 --> 00:01:42,560 I have so many children. 19 00:01:42,685 --> 00:01:44,229 [host] What are their names? Who's that? 20 00:01:44,354 --> 00:01:45,438 This is Miklós. 21 00:01:45,522 --> 00:01:46,898 [host] Hi, Miklós. 22 00:01:47,023 --> 00:01:50,110 - [Mariska] Maria... - [host] Pardon? Who are you? 23 00:01:50,193 --> 00:01:51,277 [giggles] 24 00:01:51,361 --> 00:01:54,322 [audience laughter] 25 00:01:54,405 --> 00:01:55,740 This little fella, what's his name? 26 00:01:55,865 --> 00:01:56,908 What is your name? 27 00:01:57,033 --> 00:01:58,451 - Zolie! - [host] What? 28 00:01:58,535 --> 00:01:59,744 [Mariska] 29 00:01:59,869 --> 00:02:01,412 [host] Get your own show, kid, will ya? 30 00:02:01,538 --> 00:02:04,165 [audience laughter] 31 00:02:05,041 --> 00:02:06,376 [cohost] What's your name, darling? 32 00:02:09,295 --> 00:02:10,797 [crowd marvels] 33 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,423 [Mariska] Maria. 34 00:02:14,384 --> 00:02:16,970 [gentle, pensive piano melody playing] 35 00:02:18,638 --> 00:02:20,890 [Jayne] I feel that if you bear children, 36 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:23,643 your first obligation is to your children, 37 00:02:23,726 --> 00:02:27,063 whether you're a movie star or whether you wash dishes. 38 00:02:28,231 --> 00:02:30,483 If anything ever happens to my career, 39 00:02:30,567 --> 00:02:31,901 if I'm in an auto accident, 40 00:02:31,985 --> 00:02:34,779 if my face is scarred, if I lose my legs... 41 00:02:34,904 --> 00:02:37,365 if any terrible mishap happens, 42 00:02:38,241 --> 00:02:40,201 my children will always be cared for. 43 00:02:40,285 --> 00:02:44,205 [gentle lilting melody joins, builds] 44 00:03:02,348 --> 00:03:04,642 [music intensifies gently] 45 00:03:04,767 --> 00:03:06,644 [music softens abruptly] 46 00:03:12,609 --> 00:03:14,569 [music fades out] 47 00:03:14,652 --> 00:03:17,155 [traffic humming in distance] 48 00:03:20,950 --> 00:03:24,454 [gentle, solemn instrumentals playing] 49 00:03:24,537 --> 00:03:26,915 [Mariska] I was three years old when my mom died. 50 00:03:28,875 --> 00:03:31,419 And I don't really have any memories of her. 51 00:03:34,797 --> 00:03:38,051 I can remember one time eating a bowl of cereal... 52 00:03:39,844 --> 00:03:42,931 and I remember her touching my hair. 53 00:03:45,850 --> 00:03:48,811 But I don't know if that's a real memory 54 00:03:48,895 --> 00:03:52,440 or something that I made up because I wished it happened. 55 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:57,987 After she passed away, 56 00:03:58,529 --> 00:04:01,115 a moment that's always stayed with me is when 57 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:02,951 I found my baby book. 58 00:04:05,161 --> 00:04:06,579 All of my siblings had one, 59 00:04:08,665 --> 00:04:11,542 but when I looked through mine 60 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:13,419 it was practically empty. 61 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,509 So on top of having no memories, 62 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:24,764 I think it just gave me a sense of more loss. 63 00:04:26,432 --> 00:04:28,768 It was like this little hole in my heart. 64 00:04:35,358 --> 00:04:38,569 As I got older, my dad would say to me, 65 00:04:38,695 --> 00:04:40,405 "Don't read the books about your mother. 66 00:04:40,530 --> 00:04:41,739 Don't read the books. 67 00:04:41,864 --> 00:04:44,617 You don't need to read those books." 68 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:46,327 He said that they were full of lies, 69 00:04:46,411 --> 00:04:48,496 full of sensational bullshit. 70 00:04:49,414 --> 00:04:51,708 Things that he didn't want me to have to deal with. 71 00:04:53,126 --> 00:04:56,671 So I did everything he said and I never read the books. 72 00:04:56,754 --> 00:04:59,882 [prolonged, sorrowful bass note plays] 73 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:03,344 At a certain point, I began to carry a lot of shame 74 00:05:03,428 --> 00:05:06,055 about her image as a sex symbol 75 00:05:06,973 --> 00:05:09,142 and all the choices that came with that. 76 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:13,146 So I pushed the idea of my mom 77 00:05:13,229 --> 00:05:15,690 further and further away from my life. 78 00:05:17,817 --> 00:05:21,487 But as my career grew, I started getting fan mail 79 00:05:21,571 --> 00:05:24,741 from people who knew I was Jayne Mansfield's daughter. 80 00:05:26,284 --> 00:05:28,786 Maybe they knew her or they had an interaction 81 00:05:28,911 --> 00:05:30,121 or they had a photo. 82 00:05:30,246 --> 00:05:33,124 And... it was just a lot. 83 00:05:33,958 --> 00:05:36,210 "Dear Ms. Hargitay, I have a program 84 00:05:36,294 --> 00:05:38,463 from Gentlemen Prefer Blondes 85 00:05:38,588 --> 00:05:40,006 in which your mother starred." 86 00:05:40,089 --> 00:05:42,175 "Dear Mariska, I was a close friend of your mom and dad." 87 00:05:42,258 --> 00:05:45,136 "Hello, Mariska. Jayne lived next door 88 00:05:45,261 --> 00:05:48,848 and would practice her violin every afternoon." 89 00:05:48,931 --> 00:05:50,183 "Dear Ms. Hargitay, 90 00:05:50,266 --> 00:05:52,727 you should have this memorabilia of your mom. 91 00:05:52,810 --> 00:05:54,896 They include your birth announcement 92 00:05:54,979 --> 00:05:56,314 and other stuff." 93 00:05:56,439 --> 00:05:59,859 [gentle, slowly plodding piano melody playing] 94 00:05:59,942 --> 00:06:01,903 I kept everything that was sent to me, 95 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,199 and I think that was sort of the beginning. 96 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:11,579 My mom became someone that I thought 97 00:06:11,662 --> 00:06:13,039 more and more about. 98 00:06:14,165 --> 00:06:15,375 During the pandemic, 99 00:06:15,458 --> 00:06:17,794 I even threw her a birthday party. 100 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:20,963 ♪ Happy birthday ♪ 101 00:06:21,089 --> 00:06:24,675 ♪ Dear Jayne ♪ 102 00:06:24,801 --> 00:06:26,636 Not a lot of people throw birthday parties 103 00:06:26,719 --> 00:06:28,262 for their dead mothers, 104 00:06:29,305 --> 00:06:32,058 but there was a sort of magic to it. 105 00:06:32,642 --> 00:06:34,477 [tinkling bell instrumentals playing] 106 00:06:35,144 --> 00:06:37,814 It was around that time that I began to feel like 107 00:06:37,897 --> 00:06:40,733 I actually wanted to get to know her. 108 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:44,654 Not as the sex symbol Jayne Mansfield, 109 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:47,657 but just as Jayne, 110 00:06:48,491 --> 00:06:50,034 my mom Jayne. 111 00:06:52,829 --> 00:06:58,501 My dad, who was my rock, died in 2006. 112 00:06:59,544 --> 00:07:00,962 And there were so many questions 113 00:07:01,045 --> 00:07:03,172 that I never asked him. 114 00:07:05,174 --> 00:07:08,136 I've also never really talked to my siblings much 115 00:07:08,219 --> 00:07:10,638 about their experiences. 116 00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:15,560 But I want to understand her now. 117 00:07:17,061 --> 00:07:19,272 Because it's a part of my life, 118 00:07:19,897 --> 00:07:21,524 and a part of me, 119 00:07:22,191 --> 00:07:24,902 that's always felt locked away. 120 00:07:25,027 --> 00:07:27,530 [instrumentals fade] 121 00:07:29,365 --> 00:07:33,828 [gentle, plucky instrumentals playing] 122 00:07:38,624 --> 00:07:42,295 [indistinct crowd chatter] 123 00:07:43,421 --> 00:07:44,464 [beeping] 124 00:07:46,090 --> 00:07:47,133 [camera shutter clicks] 125 00:07:53,764 --> 00:07:55,516 [man] Sorry, let me bring this in for a sec. 126 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,060 I like the wood on top of that. It's nice. 127 00:07:58,144 --> 00:07:59,770 - [man] Custom. - Yeah. 128 00:08:02,398 --> 00:08:03,441 [Mariska] Ready? 129 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:06,277 So we'll go over here. Careful. 130 00:08:06,402 --> 00:08:07,403 [woman] Okay. 131 00:08:12,909 --> 00:08:14,619 [Mariska] Let's kiss like Danmama. Remember? 132 00:08:15,828 --> 00:08:17,205 That's how my grandmother used to kiss. 133 00:08:17,288 --> 00:08:18,664 [Jayne Marie laughs] 134 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:25,296 [Mariska] Ready? 135 00:08:28,591 --> 00:08:29,634 Okay. 136 00:08:30,134 --> 00:08:31,260 Are we good? 137 00:08:31,761 --> 00:08:32,887 I mean... 138 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,474 - As good as we're gonna be. - Good as we-- [laughs] 139 00:08:36,599 --> 00:08:39,936 I don't know how the hell you got me to do this! [laughs] 140 00:08:40,019 --> 00:08:41,938 [Mariska laughs] 141 00:08:42,021 --> 00:08:44,607 Trying to make you a-- Trying to make you a big star 142 00:08:44,690 --> 00:08:46,108 with those baby blues. 143 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:48,152 That's not gonna happen. 144 00:08:49,779 --> 00:08:51,072 [Mariska] So. 145 00:08:51,155 --> 00:08:52,573 [Mariska sighs] 146 00:08:52,657 --> 00:08:54,116 - Here we are. - [Mariska] You ready? 147 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,077 Yes, we are. [inhales] 148 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,703 We're here. 149 00:08:57,787 --> 00:09:01,541 [Mariska] I've been waiting for this day for a long time. 150 00:09:02,291 --> 00:09:04,627 And first of all, 151 00:09:04,710 --> 00:09:07,380 I just wanna say thank you for doing this, 152 00:09:07,463 --> 00:09:10,007 and I feel like I'm nervous now... 153 00:09:10,132 --> 00:09:12,385 [laughs] ...because I know that you're not a fan 154 00:09:12,468 --> 00:09:15,304 of, um, you know, talking about this stuff. 155 00:09:15,388 --> 00:09:17,765 So, we'll see where it goes and see how we feel, 156 00:09:17,848 --> 00:09:20,059 and if you don't want to talk about anything, don't. 157 00:09:20,142 --> 00:09:22,270 Thank you, Marish. Thank you for asking me. 158 00:09:22,353 --> 00:09:26,023 It's an honor, definitely, and anything you ask, 159 00:09:26,148 --> 00:09:28,025 you know I'm there for you. 160 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:29,360 [Mariska] Thank you. 161 00:09:30,319 --> 00:09:34,073 I first want to talk about our childhood a little bit. 162 00:09:34,991 --> 00:09:37,326 Because you have all these memories, 163 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:38,786 and I'm envious of that. 164 00:09:38,869 --> 00:09:40,746 I don't have memories. 165 00:09:40,830 --> 00:09:42,957 [sighs deeply] 166 00:09:47,503 --> 00:09:49,922 [Zoltan swallows, breathes heavily] 167 00:09:52,883 --> 00:09:54,885 [exhales heavily] 168 00:09:55,011 --> 00:09:56,846 Well, you... your... 169 00:09:57,346 --> 00:09:58,514 Hmm. 170 00:10:04,186 --> 00:10:06,105 [swallows hard, inhales] 171 00:10:06,188 --> 00:10:07,857 Can you cut for a minute? 172 00:10:10,192 --> 00:10:13,613 [gentle, plinking piano and flute melody playing] 173 00:10:18,075 --> 00:10:19,660 [Mickey Jr.] I guess, 174 00:10:19,744 --> 00:10:23,289 rather than have, like, memories, 175 00:10:23,372 --> 00:10:27,376 it feels more like I remember an essence. 176 00:10:28,628 --> 00:10:32,632 Like a nuance of the person, if that makes sense. 177 00:10:35,384 --> 00:10:37,762 I remember her presence... 178 00:10:37,887 --> 00:10:39,597 [somber string melody joins] 179 00:10:39,722 --> 00:10:43,517 ...and I remember some of the feelings of that time. 180 00:10:47,938 --> 00:10:50,399 I have to kind of dig deep to find them. 181 00:10:51,067 --> 00:10:56,447 But the general feeling was good in those early days. 182 00:11:02,745 --> 00:11:04,163 [projector click echoes] 183 00:11:04,246 --> 00:11:07,583 [music slows, transitions] 184 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:10,211 [gentle, fast-paced ticking rhythm playing] 185 00:11:11,087 --> 00:11:13,422 [Jayne Marie] Back then, we were living in Texas, 186 00:11:16,425 --> 00:11:18,344 and it was just me and her. 187 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:22,556 I mean, I can just picture her, 188 00:11:24,141 --> 00:11:25,810 'cause she was so young. 189 00:11:27,436 --> 00:11:28,979 My father, 190 00:11:29,105 --> 00:11:30,856 his name was Paul Mansfield. 191 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:35,152 And at the time, they were married. 192 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:40,574 When I was a kid, I remember, 193 00:11:40,658 --> 00:11:43,994 she used to look at all the movie stars 194 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,705 and go to movies all the time. 195 00:11:45,788 --> 00:11:47,289 I mean, she shared that with me. 196 00:11:48,457 --> 00:11:50,251 [flash bulb snapping] 197 00:11:50,334 --> 00:11:51,836 She had her idols. 198 00:11:52,878 --> 00:11:55,840 And she wanted to be one of those stars. 199 00:11:57,633 --> 00:12:01,887 Paul Mansfield was a very churchgoing Texan, 200 00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:04,849 and not into that at all. 201 00:12:06,308 --> 00:12:08,394 But she was committed to it. 202 00:12:09,979 --> 00:12:12,481 She pursued it in drama classes. 203 00:12:15,067 --> 00:12:19,071 She just had that desire to be a serious actress. 204 00:12:20,823 --> 00:12:24,118 And she was totally determined to do that. 205 00:12:26,871 --> 00:12:30,875 So, she decided, "Hey, I'm coming to California. 206 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,042 I'm gonna do it." 207 00:12:34,170 --> 00:12:36,505 Paul Mansfield came out with us. 208 00:12:37,757 --> 00:12:42,261 But he realized that she wasn't going to, um, leave. 209 00:12:42,344 --> 00:12:45,473 [laughs] So he left and she and I stayed. 210 00:12:45,556 --> 00:12:48,476 [traffic humming] 211 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,479 [bright, optimistic instrumentals playing] 212 00:12:53,230 --> 00:12:56,567 In the beginning, she'd show up for anything. 213 00:12:57,568 --> 00:12:59,779 - [flash bulb snapping] - She would model. 214 00:13:00,613 --> 00:13:02,114 She taught dance. 215 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,244 She'd sell candy at The Wiltern Theatre. 216 00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:10,247 Anything, to be noticed. 217 00:13:11,707 --> 00:13:15,586 And, you know, she'd take me with her everywhere. 218 00:13:17,797 --> 00:13:20,174 I have a lot of memories of those days, 219 00:13:21,133 --> 00:13:22,843 because I had her to myself. 220 00:13:25,721 --> 00:13:28,724 But then, she got noticed by an agent, 221 00:13:28,808 --> 00:13:30,601 and he got her some auditions. 222 00:13:33,562 --> 00:13:34,772 [music softens] 223 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:37,191 [interviewer] 224 00:13:40,486 --> 00:13:42,613 [Jayne] 225 00:14:03,926 --> 00:14:08,305 [pensive, plodding melody playing] 226 00:14:10,641 --> 00:14:12,810 [Jayne Marie] At the time, we were living 227 00:14:12,935 --> 00:14:14,436 in an apartment in Los Angeles, 228 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,813 making ends meet. 229 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,774 And then all of a sudden... 230 00:14:20,192 --> 00:14:22,194 she was getting roles. 231 00:14:25,281 --> 00:14:27,283 You're trouble, Al. You always will be. 232 00:14:27,408 --> 00:14:28,534 But I've come along to give you 233 00:14:28,617 --> 00:14:30,035 a taste of your own medicine. 234 00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:32,204 [man] Who made the call? 235 00:14:32,288 --> 00:14:33,414 Ray Borden. 236 00:14:33,497 --> 00:14:35,332 - [crowd clamoring] - [gavel banging] 237 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,626 - [man] You sure of that? - Absolutely. 238 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:39,420 He told me his name. 239 00:14:39,503 --> 00:14:41,630 Besides, he was very insulting. 240 00:14:42,298 --> 00:14:44,008 We got to talking about this and that 241 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:46,510 and she tells me she's crazy about John Facenda. 242 00:14:46,635 --> 00:14:48,387 - John Facenda? - He's a news reporter. 243 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:50,097 He's on television. He's on every night. 244 00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:51,891 At 11 o'clock for 15 minutes. 245 00:14:54,351 --> 00:14:56,478 [music softens, slows] 246 00:14:56,562 --> 00:14:58,606 [traffic humming] 247 00:15:00,649 --> 00:15:02,276 [music fades] 248 00:15:02,359 --> 00:15:05,487 [Mariska] When did you realize what was happening? 249 00:15:06,322 --> 00:15:07,406 [car horn honks] 250 00:15:08,157 --> 00:15:09,658 [Jayne Marie] I probably started noticing it 251 00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:12,119 when I was around five or six. 252 00:15:12,202 --> 00:15:13,829 [gentle, glimmering notes playing] 253 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:16,957 She was 22 and she was on Broadway. 254 00:15:17,041 --> 00:15:19,418 [bright, cheery music playing] 255 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:23,672 [applause] 256 00:15:23,756 --> 00:15:25,716 [crowd cheering] 257 00:15:34,516 --> 00:15:38,312 That play, Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?, 258 00:15:39,188 --> 00:15:41,023 that's what put her on the map. 259 00:15:42,858 --> 00:15:46,487 [music fades] 260 00:15:46,570 --> 00:15:50,699 I mean, I remember we lived in The Plaza Hotel. 261 00:15:52,534 --> 00:15:56,080 One time, it was Easter and it was just her and me, 262 00:15:56,205 --> 00:15:58,374 and she said, "I got a surprise for you. 263 00:15:58,457 --> 00:16:00,000 Go into the bathroom." 264 00:16:01,210 --> 00:16:03,504 And I go in there and open the door 265 00:16:03,587 --> 00:16:05,756 and there's hundreds of little baby chicks 266 00:16:05,881 --> 00:16:09,343 and I remember us just sitting down on the floor 267 00:16:09,426 --> 00:16:11,679 and laughing and giggling. 268 00:16:11,762 --> 00:16:13,806 I almost wanna cry because I remember it. 269 00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:20,270 [gentle, poignant music playing] 270 00:16:20,396 --> 00:16:21,981 [Jayne Marie sniffles] 271 00:16:24,233 --> 00:16:27,569 [breathing heavily] 272 00:16:29,405 --> 00:16:31,198 [tearfully] Because I can just feel her holding me 273 00:16:31,281 --> 00:16:33,409 and smiling and laughing. 274 00:16:36,078 --> 00:16:38,539 [exhales softly, sniffles] 275 00:16:41,625 --> 00:16:43,293 [music fades] 276 00:16:43,419 --> 00:16:44,837 [dog barks in distance] 277 00:16:49,174 --> 00:16:52,219 [Mariska] After my mom died when she was 34, 278 00:16:52,970 --> 00:16:56,015 our family had to deal with a lot of things. 279 00:16:57,433 --> 00:17:01,270 One of those things was that she didn't have a will. 280 00:17:02,938 --> 00:17:06,233 So the state sold off her belongings 281 00:17:06,316 --> 00:17:07,651 to pay her debts. 282 00:17:08,444 --> 00:17:10,863 And there were just a handful of items 283 00:17:10,946 --> 00:17:13,282 that my siblings and I were able to keep. 284 00:17:14,950 --> 00:17:16,410 [Zoltan] I have her baby shoes. 285 00:17:16,493 --> 00:17:18,787 [Mariska] Oh my God. 286 00:17:19,621 --> 00:17:21,623 Yeah. And they're worn too. 287 00:17:21,749 --> 00:17:23,250 [whispering] Yeah. I love this. 288 00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:25,419 Look at these shoes. 289 00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:29,923 - They're gorgeous. - Just to share. 290 00:17:30,007 --> 00:17:31,884 - That was beautiful. - Yeah. 291 00:17:31,967 --> 00:17:33,719 [plastic crinkling] 292 00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:38,724 [Mariska] For me, a lot of this 293 00:17:38,807 --> 00:17:41,143 is about reclaiming what was lost. 294 00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:44,188 Even physical things. 295 00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:47,941 So I decided to finally go through 296 00:17:48,025 --> 00:17:49,610 our family storage unit 297 00:17:51,361 --> 00:17:56,533 because no one has opened the boxes since 1969. 298 00:17:56,658 --> 00:17:58,410 [squeaking] 299 00:18:00,204 --> 00:18:01,246 [wood creaks] 300 00:18:02,831 --> 00:18:04,124 Hmm... 301 00:18:04,208 --> 00:18:07,252 [rustling loudly] 302 00:18:07,336 --> 00:18:09,088 [sudden quiet] 303 00:18:09,171 --> 00:18:11,173 [rustling loudly] 304 00:18:11,256 --> 00:18:13,592 [sudden quiet] 305 00:18:13,675 --> 00:18:16,053 - [rustling loudly] - [Mariska sighs] 306 00:18:16,178 --> 00:18:18,430 [sudden quiet] 307 00:18:19,056 --> 00:18:20,390 [sighs] 308 00:18:21,016 --> 00:18:24,561 I wish my siblings could be here with me for this. 309 00:18:24,686 --> 00:18:27,314 [inhales deeply, sighs] 310 00:18:28,690 --> 00:18:29,858 [door creaks] 311 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:33,028 [metallic squeaking] 312 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:34,154 [Mariska sighs] 313 00:18:37,074 --> 00:18:38,367 Oh my gosh. 314 00:18:39,284 --> 00:18:41,453 That's her and Paul Mansfield. 315 00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:43,539 He got cut out. 316 00:18:48,043 --> 00:18:49,169 Wow. 317 00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:51,797 There's a lot of this. 318 00:18:53,257 --> 00:18:54,967 Who did she cut out? 319 00:18:56,885 --> 00:18:59,429 [papers rustling] 320 00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:03,183 [tuts] Oh. 321 00:19:05,477 --> 00:19:07,020 [Mariska sighs] 322 00:19:08,897 --> 00:19:10,357 [Mariska exhales softly] 323 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:15,487 [continues breathing softly] 324 00:19:21,326 --> 00:19:24,872 [door opening, creaking] 325 00:19:24,955 --> 00:19:26,915 [woman] I don't remember having this. 326 00:19:28,125 --> 00:19:29,334 [Mariska] There's Dad. 327 00:19:32,129 --> 00:19:33,255 [woman] Mickey. 328 00:19:36,842 --> 00:19:38,677 [Mariska] What do you remember about it? 329 00:19:39,428 --> 00:19:41,805 I'm sure he was not over her 330 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:43,223 when we met. 331 00:19:43,307 --> 00:19:48,604 Because she passed away June 29th, 1967, 332 00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:52,524 and Mickey and I got married in April of 1968. 333 00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:53,984 But you always have them with you. 334 00:19:54,109 --> 00:19:56,778 There's no way that, once you love somebody, 335 00:19:56,904 --> 00:19:59,072 that they ever leave your heart. 336 00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:01,283 I don't care who, I don't care how angry you are, 337 00:20:01,408 --> 00:20:02,826 I don't care anything. 338 00:20:02,951 --> 00:20:05,495 If you really love somebody, they remain in there. 339 00:20:06,496 --> 00:20:07,706 Come on, buds. 340 00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:12,961 [gentle, intriguing music playing] 341 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:19,885 [Ellen] Mickey was from Hungary. 342 00:20:23,305 --> 00:20:27,476 When he was 20, he was a championship speed skater. 343 00:20:29,144 --> 00:20:31,605 He was on the national team for soccer. 344 00:20:33,523 --> 00:20:35,984 He was also an adagio dancer. 345 00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:40,072 He came to the United States 346 00:20:40,155 --> 00:20:42,449 with seven dollars in his pocket, 347 00:20:42,532 --> 00:20:45,202 and then he became a catcher for the circus. 348 00:20:47,746 --> 00:20:49,748 And I mean, that was before he was working out 349 00:20:49,831 --> 00:20:51,416 to become a bodybuilder. 350 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:53,877 [high-spirited orchestral music playing] 351 00:20:54,002 --> 00:20:55,379 He became Mr. Indianapolis, 352 00:20:56,004 --> 00:20:57,089 Mr. Indiana, 353 00:20:57,839 --> 00:20:59,049 Mr. Midwest America, 354 00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:01,301 and finally Mr. Universe. 355 00:21:05,555 --> 00:21:07,391 Mickey would say, 356 00:21:07,516 --> 00:21:09,351 "If you can dream it, you can do it." 357 00:21:10,185 --> 00:21:11,770 That's who Mickey was. 358 00:21:16,024 --> 00:21:17,943 So after being crowned Mr. Universe 359 00:21:18,026 --> 00:21:21,488 he got a job onstage doing a show in New York 360 00:21:21,571 --> 00:21:22,906 for Mae West. 361 00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:26,868 And one night, 362 00:21:27,536 --> 00:21:29,538 Jayne Mansfield was in the audience. 363 00:21:30,539 --> 00:21:33,000 And after the show, they met... 364 00:21:33,083 --> 00:21:35,502 [music softens, fades] 365 00:21:35,585 --> 00:21:37,879 ...and that was the beginning of... 366 00:21:40,048 --> 00:21:41,717 a lovely time in their lives. 367 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,595 ["More" by Bobby Darin playing] 368 00:21:48,932 --> 00:21:54,521 ♪ More than the greatest love the world has known... ♪ 369 00:21:55,230 --> 00:21:58,025 [Jayne Marie] It was love at first sight with Mickey, 370 00:21:58,108 --> 00:21:59,568 I think it really was. 371 00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:04,197 And he was just such a... a nice man. 372 00:22:04,781 --> 00:22:06,700 You could just see that she was so happy. 373 00:22:08,076 --> 00:22:10,078 ♪ Longer than always ♪ 374 00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:14,249 ♪ Is a long, long, long time ♪ 375 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:17,294 ♪ But far beyond forever ♪ 376 00:22:17,419 --> 00:22:20,422 ♪ You'll be mine ♪ 377 00:22:20,547 --> 00:22:24,259 ♪ I know I never lived before ♪ 378 00:22:24,384 --> 00:22:27,429 ♪ And my heart is very sure ♪ 379 00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:30,432 ♪ No one else ♪ 380 00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:34,770 ♪ Could love you ♪ 381 00:22:34,853 --> 00:22:37,481 ♪ More ♪ 382 00:22:39,316 --> 00:22:42,277 [song ends with flourish, echoes] 383 00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:44,529 [Jayne Marie] It was a big deal when they got married. 384 00:22:46,031 --> 00:22:47,240 Yeah, I was happy. 385 00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:52,245 Things were already just changing so much, you know. 386 00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:56,750 [dramatic piano melody playing] 387 00:22:56,833 --> 00:23:01,004 [airplane engine droning] 388 00:23:04,424 --> 00:23:06,593 [reporter 1] Jayne Mansfield and Mickey Hargitay 389 00:23:06,676 --> 00:23:10,430 have just left this American Airlines plane. 390 00:23:11,473 --> 00:23:13,475 A huge crowd has gathered. 391 00:23:16,186 --> 00:23:19,398 [reporter 2] 392 00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:24,945 [music intensifies] 393 00:23:25,654 --> 00:23:27,906 [reporter 3] 394 00:23:31,326 --> 00:23:32,702 At the moment, she is also 395 00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:34,746 the most photographed woman in show business. 396 00:23:37,541 --> 00:23:39,751 [interviewer] Ms. Mansfield, in 1954, 397 00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:41,128 not too many years ago, 398 00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:43,588 you were selling candy in a Hollywood theater. 399 00:23:44,172 --> 00:23:48,510 How do you account for your meteoric rise to fame? 400 00:23:49,678 --> 00:23:53,014 [Jayne] Well, Joyce, what I have done is this. 401 00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:55,517 I use my pinup-type publicity 402 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,520 to get my foot in the door, so to speak, 403 00:23:58,603 --> 00:24:01,314 because it never was really my ambition. 404 00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:03,275 [Davidson] Do you like doing that? 405 00:24:03,358 --> 00:24:05,444 I use it as a means to an end. [laughs] 406 00:24:05,527 --> 00:24:07,404 I don't know if I should say I liked it. 407 00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:09,489 But I felt that it would do me some good, 408 00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:12,534 being put into a position where I could project myself 409 00:24:12,617 --> 00:24:14,578 to what I really wanted to attain. 410 00:24:17,247 --> 00:24:19,499 [crowd cheering] 411 00:24:20,876 --> 00:24:23,587 This is Rita Marlowe, star of stage, screen, 412 00:24:23,712 --> 00:24:26,089 and now live television. [squeals] 413 00:24:27,883 --> 00:24:29,885 I think it's very, very bad taste. 414 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:31,428 What's very bad taste? 415 00:24:31,553 --> 00:24:33,638 Telling your wife you love her in front of me! 416 00:24:33,722 --> 00:24:36,808 [music builds] 417 00:24:36,892 --> 00:24:39,352 Jayne, how do you like it here at Goose Air Base? 418 00:24:39,436 --> 00:24:42,397 Oh, I love it anywhere there are men on the alert. 419 00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:44,316 - [laughter] - [wolf whistle] 420 00:24:44,399 --> 00:24:45,525 She's not kidding either. 421 00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:47,819 The radar keeps going ring-a-ding-ding. 422 00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,988 - [laughter] - [applause] 423 00:24:50,071 --> 00:24:51,573 [flash bulbs snapping] 424 00:24:51,656 --> 00:24:54,409 [crowd whistling] 425 00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:00,957 [helicopters thrumming] 426 00:25:05,420 --> 00:25:07,589 [crowd cheering] 427 00:25:16,431 --> 00:25:18,141 [music ends abruptly, fades] 428 00:25:18,266 --> 00:25:19,684 [birds chirping] 429 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,026 [interviewer] I'm in the Beverly Hills home 430 00:25:28,109 --> 00:25:30,779 of Jayne Mansfield and her husband Mickey Hargitay. 431 00:25:30,862 --> 00:25:32,989 - Would you mind a little tour? - Sure. Follow me, will you? 432 00:25:33,114 --> 00:25:35,492 - How about the living room? - I'll show the living room. 433 00:25:36,493 --> 00:25:38,995 [interviewer] The plaque, it's a painting of what? 434 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,373 [Jayne] It's our crest. J and M for Jayne and Mickey. 435 00:25:41,456 --> 00:25:43,708 [Mickey] Glenn Holse painted this. 436 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:45,877 [Jayne] Yes. He did the murals on the piano as well, 437 00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:47,671 the cupids behind you. 438 00:25:47,796 --> 00:25:49,256 [interviewer] Now, you have three children. 439 00:25:49,339 --> 00:25:51,716 - Yes. This is Mickey Jr. - Hi, Mickey Jr. 440 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,134 Excuse me for introducing him first. 441 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:54,761 - Nice meeting you, sir. - This is Jayne Marie, 442 00:25:54,844 --> 00:25:55,929 - our little daughter. - Hi. 443 00:25:56,012 --> 00:25:57,138 Nice meeting you. 444 00:25:57,222 --> 00:25:59,641 That's our youngest son, Zoltan Anthony. 445 00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:03,228 [bright, tender music playing] 446 00:26:07,899 --> 00:26:10,652 [Mariska] What do you remember about that time? 447 00:26:11,778 --> 00:26:15,115 [Zoltan] I remember her playing with us 448 00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:16,783 in the pool area. 449 00:26:16,866 --> 00:26:18,535 [projector clicks] 450 00:26:19,661 --> 00:26:20,954 It was a heart-shaped pool. 451 00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:25,083 And it was huge. 452 00:26:26,084 --> 00:26:27,377 [Mariska] And that was normal to you. 453 00:26:27,502 --> 00:26:28,878 That was normal. 454 00:26:31,006 --> 00:26:33,425 We also had a lot of animals. 455 00:26:34,342 --> 00:26:36,303 She loved animals. 456 00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:37,887 Remember the ocelot? There was an ocelot... 457 00:26:38,013 --> 00:26:39,264 - I don't. - [Zoltan] ... in the back. 458 00:26:39,347 --> 00:26:40,932 It was in a big cage. 459 00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:42,392 We called it the "jungle" back there. 460 00:26:44,227 --> 00:26:46,062 [Mariska] So you had a zoo growing up. 461 00:26:46,187 --> 00:26:47,397 [Zoltan] We had a zoo. 462 00:26:47,522 --> 00:26:48,607 [Mariska] I say, "We had a zoo," 463 00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:49,774 but I don't remember anything. 464 00:26:50,358 --> 00:26:51,484 Yeah. 465 00:26:51,568 --> 00:26:53,737 [music intensifies] 466 00:26:58,074 --> 00:27:00,994 [Mariska] God, I just... I wonder what you felt 467 00:27:01,077 --> 00:27:02,621 seeing them so... 468 00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:04,789 Talk about larger than life. 469 00:27:12,047 --> 00:27:13,840 Did it ever get normalized? 470 00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:17,344 Marish, it's hard because when you're a kid, 471 00:27:17,427 --> 00:27:19,054 you don't know anything else. 472 00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:21,473 There's no norm. There's no... you know. 473 00:27:21,556 --> 00:27:22,807 - [Mariska] Yeah. - You just, 474 00:27:22,891 --> 00:27:25,060 "Okay, this is what it is. 475 00:27:25,185 --> 00:27:26,770 This is life. This is my life," 476 00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:27,854 and that's all you know. 477 00:27:27,937 --> 00:27:29,731 [music softens] 478 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:34,986 But I felt loved and I felt safe. 479 00:27:36,237 --> 00:27:38,573 And that's what made the biggest impression. 480 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:42,327 [gentle, dreamy instrumentals playing] 481 00:27:51,294 --> 00:27:53,838 [Zoltan] I remember her coming in one time 482 00:27:53,922 --> 00:27:55,423 and she said good night. 483 00:27:58,343 --> 00:27:59,886 And, um... 484 00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:02,055 [Zoltan sniffles] 485 00:28:03,014 --> 00:28:05,392 ...she came back like ten minutes later... 486 00:28:05,475 --> 00:28:08,103 [snorts] ...she gave me like, um, 487 00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:09,896 a beautiful hug. 488 00:28:11,439 --> 00:28:13,358 But I had my eye open, 489 00:28:13,441 --> 00:28:15,777 to where she-- I pretended like I was asleep 490 00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:18,029 and then I fell asleep. [sniffles] 491 00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:20,990 [somber chord resonates] 492 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,451 [Zoltan exhales softly] 493 00:28:24,369 --> 00:28:25,620 Yeah. 494 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:28,373 [music fades] 495 00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:32,335 [birds chirping] 496 00:28:39,175 --> 00:28:40,719 - Oh, thanks. - Yeah. For sure. 497 00:28:41,803 --> 00:28:43,972 No one believes I'm as old as I am. 498 00:28:45,849 --> 00:28:47,600 I'll be 100 next year. 499 00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:51,604 [gentle, spirited music playing] 500 00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:54,149 So, do you go by Rusty or Ray? 501 00:28:54,232 --> 00:28:55,525 - Rusty. - [Mariska] Rusty. 502 00:28:55,650 --> 00:28:56,818 Anything they call me, 503 00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:58,820 so long as they don't call me late for dinner. 504 00:29:01,531 --> 00:29:03,575 [Mariska] And what year again did you meet her? 505 00:29:03,658 --> 00:29:04,826 [Rusty] 1957. 506 00:29:05,869 --> 00:29:08,580 She hired me to help with fan mail, 507 00:29:08,663 --> 00:29:10,832 but I eventually became her press secretary. 508 00:29:12,167 --> 00:29:15,044 I'd do all the phone calls and make appointments 509 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:16,129 and that sort of thing. 510 00:29:16,212 --> 00:29:17,756 Set up publicity. 511 00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:19,549 You know what-- the publicity business. 512 00:29:21,342 --> 00:29:24,179 [crowd cheering, applauding] 513 00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:26,389 She was famous for opening stores. 514 00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:30,310 But it was much more than that. 515 00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:33,354 She was always on display. 516 00:29:35,190 --> 00:29:36,649 In front of fans. 517 00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:39,486 She said, "Never turn away 518 00:29:39,569 --> 00:29:40,987 somebody that wants an autograph 519 00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:43,740 because without them there wouldn't be me." 520 00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:49,162 [interviewer] 521 00:29:56,044 --> 00:29:57,629 [Jayne] 522 00:30:10,558 --> 00:30:13,853 - [music intensifies] - [flash bulbs snapping] 523 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,996 May I say, I'm sure were he here tonight... 524 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,541 [crowd cheering, whistling] 525 00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:37,877 [flash bulbs snapping] 526 00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:39,546 [music further intensifies] 527 00:30:39,629 --> 00:30:42,715 [music ends abruptly, fades] 528 00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:44,968 [Mariska] So everything that you were doing together 529 00:30:45,093 --> 00:30:46,553 was really working. 530 00:30:47,262 --> 00:30:48,555 [Rusty] Yeah. Oh, yeah. 531 00:30:50,014 --> 00:30:52,767 And I'll tell you, she counted the paper clips. 532 00:30:52,851 --> 00:30:54,185 [Mariska] She was meticulous. 533 00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:55,770 [Rusty] Oh yes. 534 00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,522 "What happened to that one? To this one?" 535 00:30:57,605 --> 00:30:59,524 - "I don't know!" - She kept track of everything? 536 00:30:59,607 --> 00:31:00,733 She kept track of everything. 537 00:31:02,443 --> 00:31:05,655 [applause] 538 00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:11,077 [Groucho] Hello, Jayne. 539 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,289 I knew this before, when I did that picture with you. 540 00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:16,207 Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? 541 00:31:16,291 --> 00:31:17,750 Yeah, that was a pretty funny picture. 542 00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:19,878 You were the cutest leading man I ever had yet. 543 00:31:19,961 --> 00:31:21,880 - And the oldest too, I think. - [laughter] 544 00:31:21,963 --> 00:31:23,673 You know, you're actually, 545 00:31:23,798 --> 00:31:25,133 and I've told this to other people, 546 00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:26,968 you're not the dumb blonde that you pretend to be. 547 00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:28,887 And I think the people ought to know 548 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:31,347 that you're really a bright, sentimental, 549 00:31:31,472 --> 00:31:33,266 and understanding person. 550 00:31:33,349 --> 00:31:34,350 Thank you. 551 00:31:34,475 --> 00:31:35,894 And this is a whole facade of yours 552 00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:38,396 that isn't based on what you actually are. 553 00:31:38,479 --> 00:31:40,857 Well, that's sweet of you. Thank you so much. 554 00:31:40,982 --> 00:31:42,901 I think you're aware of that. This is... 555 00:31:42,984 --> 00:31:45,528 This is a kind of an act you do, isn't it? 556 00:31:45,653 --> 00:31:47,238 Oh, it's, uh... 557 00:31:47,322 --> 00:31:48,740 Most people don't know that, though. 558 00:31:48,823 --> 00:31:50,867 I-I think that it's like this. 559 00:31:50,992 --> 00:31:54,787 The public pays money at the box office 560 00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:57,707 to see me a certain way, and, uh... 561 00:31:57,832 --> 00:31:59,667 And they get their money's worth too. 562 00:31:59,751 --> 00:32:00,877 [laughter] 563 00:32:01,002 --> 00:32:02,879 So I think it's just all part of the role 564 00:32:03,004 --> 00:32:04,923 - I'm playing as an actress. - Uh-huh. 565 00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:07,133 [gentle, intriguing music playing] 566 00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:09,469 [Mariska] Can you talk to me about the role 567 00:32:09,552 --> 00:32:12,055 that she was playing, the persona? 568 00:32:13,556 --> 00:32:15,516 Where do you think that came from? 569 00:32:16,392 --> 00:32:17,852 [Rusty] That's what the studios wanted. 570 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:23,232 And so she sorta copied Marilyn Monroe. 571 00:32:23,358 --> 00:32:26,277 That's me, right there on the beach. 572 00:32:27,737 --> 00:32:30,281 My hair was a little longer then. Did you notice? 573 00:32:30,365 --> 00:32:32,742 Oh, Rock Huntington! 574 00:32:32,867 --> 00:32:35,995 [squeals] I know I'm oh-so-kissable, 575 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,247 but why don't you pour the champagne first, 576 00:32:38,373 --> 00:32:40,041 lover doll. 577 00:32:41,376 --> 00:32:44,671 [Mariska] So I have had a very complicated relationship 578 00:32:44,754 --> 00:32:47,131 with that voice, 579 00:32:47,215 --> 00:32:49,592 because I didn't understand what that voice was, 580 00:32:49,717 --> 00:32:51,260 and it used to upset me. 581 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:54,180 I don't think Jayne liked it, 582 00:32:54,263 --> 00:32:56,391 but she... that's what got her where she was, 583 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:57,684 and so she was not gonna-- 584 00:32:57,767 --> 00:32:59,602 You know, you go where it gets you. 585 00:32:59,727 --> 00:33:01,145 What else do we have at home? 586 00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:03,481 Oh, we have an ocelot 587 00:33:03,564 --> 00:33:05,608 - and a myna bird. - An ocelot? 588 00:33:05,733 --> 00:33:07,443 - One of those baby tigers? - Yes. 589 00:33:08,111 --> 00:33:09,487 [imitating Jayne] "I have an ocelot 590 00:33:09,570 --> 00:33:11,197 and a myna bird, 591 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,282 and we also have an elephant and..." 592 00:33:13,408 --> 00:33:15,034 That's her. 593 00:33:15,118 --> 00:33:16,786 [Mariska] But she didn't always talk like that. 594 00:33:16,911 --> 00:33:19,455 - That's a character, almost. - Yeah. 595 00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:21,082 It's a character. 596 00:33:21,165 --> 00:33:22,834 - That's the character Jayne. - Mm-hmm. 597 00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:27,005 [Mariska] Did she ever talk to you about what she was doing? 598 00:33:28,423 --> 00:33:29,882 [Jayne Marie] Well, we didn't discuss it. 599 00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:32,051 It was just... we lived it. 600 00:33:32,135 --> 00:33:33,511 [flash bulb snaps] 601 00:33:33,594 --> 00:33:37,348 But she didn't put on those weird airs at home. 602 00:33:38,182 --> 00:33:40,643 She had her hair up in a scarf and she'd sit in the sun 603 00:33:40,768 --> 00:33:43,896 and no makeup or any of that stuff at home. 604 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:46,983 And she was, you know, just Jayne. 605 00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:49,485 [gentle, pensive music playing] 606 00:33:50,111 --> 00:33:52,321 She had a great sense of humor. 607 00:33:53,448 --> 00:33:55,658 We had intercoms throughout the house, 608 00:33:55,783 --> 00:33:58,703 and whenever I'd have a friend visit, 609 00:33:58,786 --> 00:34:00,246 she would yell through them 610 00:34:00,329 --> 00:34:03,458 and make these weird noises. [laughs] 611 00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:06,961 But she was also very eloquent. 612 00:34:07,712 --> 00:34:11,090 She spoke French, Italian, Spanish, Hungarian. 613 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:16,220 And she wanted us to be exposed 614 00:34:16,971 --> 00:34:19,474 to more. 615 00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:23,394 So she took me to Walter Reed hospital 616 00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:26,022 to go visit the soldiers coming back from the war. 617 00:34:28,024 --> 00:34:30,359 She had such compassion for them. 618 00:34:31,986 --> 00:34:36,574 And she wanted to show me the other part of life. 619 00:34:36,657 --> 00:34:38,618 [solemn music playing] 620 00:34:39,869 --> 00:34:42,246 [Jayne] 621 00:35:08,022 --> 00:35:10,191 [Jayne Marie] That wasn't a personality 622 00:35:10,274 --> 00:35:12,860 pretending to be somebody else. 623 00:35:12,944 --> 00:35:14,445 That was her. 624 00:35:16,531 --> 00:35:18,908 [Mariska] I just wonder how it made you feel 625 00:35:19,867 --> 00:35:21,994 knowing who she was 626 00:35:22,078 --> 00:35:25,623 and how different she sounded in public. 627 00:35:25,706 --> 00:35:27,625 [music darkens] 628 00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:29,127 [Mickey Jr.] It didn't feel natural. 629 00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:31,420 It didn't feel right to me. 630 00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:32,964 [crowd cheering] 631 00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:35,800 So I think I kind of looked the other way 632 00:35:35,883 --> 00:35:38,636 when I heard the, you know, the public voice, 633 00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:43,933 because I knew she was really, really smart. 634 00:35:44,058 --> 00:35:46,769 [music fades] 635 00:35:46,894 --> 00:35:52,024 [Vivaldi's "Concerto No. 6 in A Minor" plays] 636 00:36:44,452 --> 00:36:46,662 - [music ends] - [applause] 637 00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:52,126 My playing the violin and now the piano 638 00:36:52,251 --> 00:36:53,753 may remind you of a famous story 639 00:36:53,836 --> 00:36:56,047 about Dr. Samuel Johnson. 640 00:36:56,130 --> 00:36:57,632 Once, when he saw a little puppy 641 00:36:57,715 --> 00:36:59,508 walking on its hind legs, 642 00:36:59,634 --> 00:37:02,053 he said, "It's not that you expect him to do it perfectly, 643 00:37:02,136 --> 00:37:05,264 it's just that you're surprised the puppy does it at all." 644 00:37:05,348 --> 00:37:07,683 Which just goes to prove that I not only 645 00:37:07,808 --> 00:37:09,060 play the violin and the piano, 646 00:37:09,143 --> 00:37:12,480 but I also know who Dr. Samuel Johnson is. 647 00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:20,696 [playing "Malagueña"] 648 00:37:44,929 --> 00:37:46,389 [song pauses] 649 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,141 [song resumes] 650 00:37:50,893 --> 00:37:52,853 [interviewer] You gave her singing and dancing lessons, 651 00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:54,188 I believe, Ms. Peers. Right? 652 00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:55,815 [Vera] Yes, I did, Ralph. 653 00:37:55,898 --> 00:37:58,276 And then as she grew older, 654 00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:01,654 she had piano and violin lessons. 655 00:38:01,737 --> 00:38:06,659 And in fact, Philip Williams from SMU taught Jaynie 656 00:38:06,742 --> 00:38:10,371 and he had hopes of seeing her in Carnegie Hall. 657 00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:11,789 She was that gifted. 658 00:38:11,872 --> 00:38:15,251 [continues playing "Malagueña"] 659 00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:32,351 [ending note echoes, fades] 660 00:38:32,435 --> 00:38:35,187 [Mariska] Do you know why piano and violin 661 00:38:35,271 --> 00:38:39,025 didn't play more of a role in what she ended up doing? 662 00:38:40,568 --> 00:38:43,404 Oh, I don't know 'cause I can't speak for her. 663 00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:48,576 But I just know that her goal 664 00:38:48,659 --> 00:38:51,245 was that she wanted to be a serious actress. 665 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,624 She did tell me that from the beginning, 666 00:38:56,792 --> 00:38:58,210 and she did try. 667 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:01,922 None of my business, but mind if I tell you what I did 668 00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:03,799 to a guy I was in love with once? 669 00:39:05,259 --> 00:39:06,552 Broke a chair over his head 670 00:39:06,635 --> 00:39:09,180 after I caught him kissing some dame at a party. 671 00:39:09,263 --> 00:39:12,266 [gentle, dramatic music playing] 672 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,226 Bet he never tried that again. 673 00:39:15,102 --> 00:39:17,438 Don't know. Never saw him after that. 674 00:39:18,481 --> 00:39:21,359 But he's married. Happily married. 675 00:39:23,110 --> 00:39:24,695 And I make a living. 676 00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:28,699 Believe me, breaking a chair over a guy's head 677 00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:30,534 can sure work miracles. 678 00:39:31,452 --> 00:39:35,247 The kind of miracles that louse up your whole life. 679 00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:38,834 [solemn, tense music playing] 680 00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:41,670 [Mariska] Why didn't she do more of those roles? 681 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:45,883 Because the parts didn't come in. 682 00:39:47,968 --> 00:39:49,929 So she did what she had to do. 683 00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,144 [projector clicking] 684 00:39:57,228 --> 00:39:58,813 [reporter 1] Marilyn Monroe played out 685 00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,439 her wonderful tragic life 686 00:40:00,523 --> 00:40:02,900 to a dramatic end at 36. 687 00:40:03,818 --> 00:40:06,320 Her famous body is wheeled from her Hollywood home 688 00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:08,114 where she was found beside an empty bottle 689 00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:09,323 of sleeping pills. 690 00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:11,742 [reporter 2] The sex symbol she enjoyed being, 691 00:40:11,826 --> 00:40:14,203 the dumb blonde she certainly wasn't, 692 00:40:14,328 --> 00:40:16,288 the actress with an underestimated ambition 693 00:40:16,372 --> 00:40:17,665 to act. 694 00:40:22,378 --> 00:40:24,797 [Jayne Marie] Mom had great admiration for Marilyn, 695 00:40:26,882 --> 00:40:29,718 but I think she realized 696 00:40:29,844 --> 00:40:34,640 that whole blonde persona was a box. 697 00:40:36,892 --> 00:40:41,272 And around that time, she did tell me 698 00:40:41,355 --> 00:40:44,358 she wanted to reverse that image. 699 00:40:47,570 --> 00:40:51,365 [interviewer] 700 00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:55,578 Yes. I... I don't like to be asked too much 701 00:40:55,703 --> 00:40:57,580 about my measurements 702 00:40:57,705 --> 00:41:00,249 because people have asked me about that before 703 00:41:00,374 --> 00:41:02,793 and I don't like to be asked that. 704 00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:06,547 I feel that my figure has been publicized 705 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:09,091 much more than my intellect, 706 00:41:09,216 --> 00:41:11,051 and I would like to change that. 707 00:41:11,135 --> 00:41:15,473 [music intensifies] 708 00:41:17,099 --> 00:41:19,894 [host] Jayne, you are another beautiful but dumb blonde. 709 00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:22,313 You are a publicity seeker. 710 00:41:22,396 --> 00:41:25,608 How do you feel about such images? 711 00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:27,860 Well, they're not accurate. 712 00:41:27,943 --> 00:41:29,069 In the very beginning, 713 00:41:29,153 --> 00:41:31,113 I was quite cooperative publicity-wise, 714 00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:34,033 but lately I haven't been able to 715 00:41:34,116 --> 00:41:35,701 because of the momentum 716 00:41:35,784 --> 00:41:39,079 in which my career is moving at this time. 717 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,001 [music fades] 718 00:41:44,084 --> 00:41:46,045 Jayne, we just talked informally 719 00:41:46,128 --> 00:41:48,297 without rehearsal. But, um, I'm concerned. 720 00:41:48,422 --> 00:41:50,341 You know, not seriously concerned. 721 00:41:50,424 --> 00:41:52,051 But what is this new Jayne Mansfield thing? 722 00:41:52,134 --> 00:41:53,219 Well, I mean, why? 723 00:41:53,302 --> 00:41:54,345 - Well... - Are you serious? 724 00:41:54,428 --> 00:41:55,721 Yes, I am quite serious. 725 00:41:55,804 --> 00:41:57,973 I have been very fortunate 726 00:41:58,098 --> 00:42:00,893 in being exposed as a glamor girl 727 00:42:00,976 --> 00:42:01,977 for quite a few years. 728 00:42:02,102 --> 00:42:03,437 [Paar] Yes, I'd say that. 729 00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:05,064 And... 730 00:42:05,147 --> 00:42:06,857 [laughter] 731 00:42:06,941 --> 00:42:08,817 Dear me. I'm sorry. 732 00:42:08,943 --> 00:42:10,236 There goes my new image. 733 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:11,946 [laughter] 734 00:42:12,029 --> 00:42:13,155 No, but how can you change? 735 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,532 It's like trying to hide a parachute. 736 00:42:14,615 --> 00:42:15,991 You know, I mean... 737 00:42:16,116 --> 00:42:19,662 - [laughter] - [scattered applause] 738 00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:21,080 Well, you did all right. 739 00:42:21,163 --> 00:42:22,831 There's a point at which you don't go beyond... 740 00:42:22,957 --> 00:42:24,375 Well, I think that's the situation. 741 00:42:24,458 --> 00:42:26,293 I think that it has been done 742 00:42:26,418 --> 00:42:28,254 and I'm ready to be myself now. 743 00:42:28,337 --> 00:42:30,297 I've been someone else for a few years 744 00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:31,882 and I'm ready to be myself. 745 00:42:32,967 --> 00:42:34,635 [Paar] You're serious about this violin? 746 00:42:34,718 --> 00:42:37,429 I'll play a couple of bars for you, okay? 747 00:42:38,806 --> 00:42:39,974 Are you a good player? 748 00:42:40,057 --> 00:42:41,559 I play. 749 00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:44,311 [laughter] 750 00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:45,813 [shrill notes resonate] 751 00:42:45,896 --> 00:42:47,273 I think it has to be loosened. 752 00:42:47,356 --> 00:42:48,816 My bow is too tight. 753 00:42:48,899 --> 00:42:50,734 [laughter] 754 00:42:50,818 --> 00:42:52,778 - I would say that it is. - What was funny about that? 755 00:42:52,861 --> 00:42:54,697 Well, don't press your luck. 756 00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:57,700 [laughter] 757 00:42:57,825 --> 00:43:00,286 [plays hesitant warm-up] 758 00:43:00,369 --> 00:43:05,624 [plays "Concerto No. 6 in A Minor"] 759 00:43:08,377 --> 00:43:09,712 [Paar] Who cares? Kiss me. 760 00:43:09,837 --> 00:43:11,839 [laughter] 761 00:43:11,922 --> 00:43:14,425 [applause] 762 00:43:14,508 --> 00:43:16,552 We'll be back soon, but first we have a message 763 00:43:16,677 --> 00:43:18,429 from Mogen David wine. 764 00:43:18,512 --> 00:43:20,514 [applause echoes, fades] 765 00:43:28,772 --> 00:43:33,444 [gentle, pensive piano melody playing] 766 00:43:33,527 --> 00:43:36,405 [Mariska] Maybe even more than her acting, 767 00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:40,284 her music is this symbol to me 768 00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:43,412 of the Jayne that I've been aching to know. 769 00:43:45,873 --> 00:43:49,043 So a few years ago, I tracked down a violin 770 00:43:49,126 --> 00:43:51,170 that I thought was hers. 771 00:43:52,546 --> 00:43:55,090 And it turned out that it probably wasn't. 772 00:43:58,260 --> 00:44:00,596 But I also reached out to the person 773 00:44:00,721 --> 00:44:04,892 who bought my mom's house ten years after she died, 774 00:44:04,975 --> 00:44:08,062 the singer-songwriter Engelbert Humperdinck. 775 00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:11,982 He sold the house in 2002, 776 00:44:12,066 --> 00:44:13,817 and after that it was demolished. 777 00:44:15,069 --> 00:44:19,531 But he kept some things, including my mom's piano, 778 00:44:20,991 --> 00:44:22,951 and I've been hoping for years 779 00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,537 that he'd be willing to part with it. 780 00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:29,208 [phone ringing] 781 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:31,543 [Mariska] Hi, John. It's Mariska. 782 00:44:31,627 --> 00:44:33,837 [John] 783 00:44:33,921 --> 00:44:35,881 [Mariska] Are you still friends with Louise? 784 00:44:35,964 --> 00:44:37,007 [John] 785 00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:38,676 [Mariska] She had shared with me 786 00:44:38,759 --> 00:44:42,346 that Engelbert wanted to sell the piano, 787 00:44:42,429 --> 00:44:45,974 and then I just haven't heard from her in a month. 788 00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:48,227 [John] 789 00:44:48,310 --> 00:44:50,145 Oh, John, that'd be so amazing. 790 00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:51,689 Thank you so much. 791 00:44:51,772 --> 00:44:54,775 [solemn, tender instrumentals playing] 792 00:44:57,486 --> 00:45:00,489 I mean, I think the thing that I keep coming back to is, 793 00:45:01,323 --> 00:45:04,785 do you think that she could have done it a different way? 794 00:45:06,704 --> 00:45:08,080 [Jayne Marie] She was a 21-year-old kid 795 00:45:08,163 --> 00:45:09,665 when she started, 796 00:45:10,958 --> 00:45:13,752 and she was being molded by everybody around her. 797 00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:17,131 And, unfortunately, she had the wrong people around her. 798 00:45:19,133 --> 00:45:20,843 Except for Mickey. 799 00:45:24,388 --> 00:45:25,806 [Mariska] So I have a question for you. 800 00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:27,474 [Jayne Marie] Mm-hmm. 801 00:45:28,308 --> 00:45:29,768 [Mariska] When I was going through photos 802 00:45:29,852 --> 00:45:31,145 that I found in the storage unit... 803 00:45:32,479 --> 00:45:33,647 I found this. 804 00:45:36,191 --> 00:45:37,568 [Jayne Marie] Uh-huh. 805 00:45:39,153 --> 00:45:41,071 [Mariska] I found all these pictures. 806 00:45:45,033 --> 00:45:46,118 [Jayne Marie] It's Mickey. 807 00:45:48,162 --> 00:45:49,663 I remember going in there 808 00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:52,166 and seeing her cutting up pictures. 809 00:45:52,249 --> 00:45:54,168 [Mariska] Did she say why? 810 00:45:54,251 --> 00:45:55,586 I don't remember. 811 00:45:55,669 --> 00:45:58,005 If she was in a bad mood, I kept my distance. 812 00:46:00,340 --> 00:46:02,342 I'm so curious about what happened. 813 00:46:14,855 --> 00:46:18,066 I'm wondering when things got difficult for them. 814 00:46:19,067 --> 00:46:20,569 Do you know what was going on? 815 00:46:23,197 --> 00:46:25,574 [Ellen] I know they were having disagreements 816 00:46:25,699 --> 00:46:27,910 about how they were raising the children. 817 00:46:30,370 --> 00:46:34,082 But also, her career wasn't going well. 818 00:46:34,208 --> 00:46:36,919 [dramatic, persistent instrumentals playing] 819 00:46:38,712 --> 00:46:41,548 So she went back to these parts for dumb blondes. 820 00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:49,640 I don't think it was easy for her. 821 00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:53,977 But I don't think it was easy for Mickey either. 822 00:46:55,312 --> 00:46:58,273 She was completely absorbed in negativity. 823 00:46:59,775 --> 00:47:01,902 Because she wasn't doing the kind of work 824 00:47:01,985 --> 00:47:03,862 that she dreamed of doing. 825 00:47:05,447 --> 00:47:09,743 And I believe she became a victim of... 826 00:47:10,953 --> 00:47:12,496 depression. 827 00:47:14,665 --> 00:47:17,543 You're never yourself when you're depressed. 828 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,923 But Mickey said that it just started to get 829 00:47:23,590 --> 00:47:24,967 to be really difficult 830 00:47:26,260 --> 00:47:27,594 because Jayne... 831 00:47:28,762 --> 00:47:31,431 Jayne... Jayne really liked to be out there. 832 00:47:32,266 --> 00:47:34,309 She liked to be out there. 833 00:47:34,434 --> 00:47:35,894 And she met other people. 834 00:47:35,978 --> 00:47:40,858 She met other men, you know, and the marriage fell apart. 835 00:47:44,111 --> 00:47:48,115 I think that Mickey was hurt deeply by Jayne. 836 00:47:49,825 --> 00:47:51,285 I think she... 837 00:47:53,287 --> 00:47:56,039 I think she blew it when she divorced Mickey. 838 00:47:58,959 --> 00:48:01,837 Mickey was the most positive influence in her life. 839 00:48:03,797 --> 00:48:07,259 And even though he might've felt a lot of pain, 840 00:48:08,635 --> 00:48:09,803 he loved her. 841 00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,389 He always loved her 842 00:48:12,973 --> 00:48:14,766 even after they were divorced. 843 00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:19,229 [Mariska] And what happened after they got divorced? 844 00:48:21,565 --> 00:48:23,525 [Ellen] She did come back to Mickey 845 00:48:23,650 --> 00:48:24,943 many times after that. 846 00:48:26,737 --> 00:48:31,491 And they were together again for a few months 847 00:48:31,575 --> 00:48:33,994 around the time Jayne was pregnant with you. 848 00:48:36,246 --> 00:48:38,081 [music fades] 849 00:48:38,165 --> 00:48:41,084 [water trickling] 850 00:48:44,796 --> 00:48:47,090 [interviewer] Jayne and Mickey, welcome to California. 851 00:48:47,174 --> 00:48:48,926 How does it feel to be home? 852 00:48:50,218 --> 00:48:53,263 [Mickey] Well... feels wonderful. 853 00:48:53,347 --> 00:48:55,223 It's just great. It really is. 854 00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:58,352 I haven't been home myself since last March. 855 00:48:58,435 --> 00:49:01,229 I've been in every place in the world, I guess. 856 00:49:01,355 --> 00:49:03,482 I just finished a picture called Dog Eat Dog 857 00:49:03,565 --> 00:49:05,192 in Yugoslavia and Rome. 858 00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:07,778 And now we're back here for Mickey to continue 859 00:49:07,861 --> 00:49:09,696 on his television work 860 00:49:10,447 --> 00:49:12,157 and to have a baby. [laughs] 861 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,242 - That's right. - In January, 862 00:49:14,368 --> 00:49:15,494 or the end of December, 863 00:49:15,577 --> 00:49:17,788 we're having our fourth child. 864 00:49:18,705 --> 00:49:21,124 [crackling, buzzing] 865 00:49:21,208 --> 00:49:24,962 [gentle, solemn music playing] 866 00:49:29,549 --> 00:49:31,551 [Mariska] I'm baby number four. 867 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,639 And by the time I came along, 868 00:49:36,723 --> 00:49:39,726 I think there was a lot going on. 869 00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:45,649 And so there's a sense to me, 870 00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:47,693 in some of the photos, 871 00:49:48,902 --> 00:49:51,571 it just seemed like she wasn't holding me a lot. 872 00:49:53,907 --> 00:49:55,993 Like she was off doing something else 873 00:49:57,661 --> 00:49:59,162 and I just had to handle it. 874 00:50:00,914 --> 00:50:04,751 So I don't know if I had that attachment time with her. 875 00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:08,380 I don't know if I had that. 876 00:50:12,759 --> 00:50:15,220 [solemn music continues] 877 00:50:32,988 --> 00:50:34,698 [music softens] 878 00:50:38,702 --> 00:50:42,873 [dramatic, pensive instrumentals playing] 879 00:50:44,458 --> 00:50:45,834 [Jayne] 880 00:50:46,626 --> 00:50:48,253 [interviewer] 881 00:50:49,629 --> 00:50:50,964 [Jayne] 882 00:50:54,843 --> 00:50:56,678 [interviewer] The Maria. 883 00:50:56,803 --> 00:50:59,181 [dramatic music continues] 884 00:51:03,810 --> 00:51:05,896 [Mariska] Can I ask you a question about my name? 885 00:51:05,979 --> 00:51:07,564 - [Zoltan] Yeah. - On my birth certificate 886 00:51:07,647 --> 00:51:10,317 everywhere it says "Mariska Magdolna." 887 00:51:10,442 --> 00:51:11,902 - [Zoltan] Yeah. - [Mariska] Right? 888 00:51:11,985 --> 00:51:14,780 But then you guys called me Maria. 889 00:51:14,863 --> 00:51:16,364 [Zoltan] That's right. 890 00:51:17,365 --> 00:51:19,451 Your name was Maria in the beginning. 891 00:51:19,534 --> 00:51:21,161 - [Mariska] Always Maria? - Yeah. 892 00:51:21,244 --> 00:51:22,662 - In the beginning. - [Mariska] Uh-huh. 893 00:51:22,788 --> 00:51:24,956 On The Merv Griffin Show, she calls me Maria. 894 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,751 - Yeah. - What's your name, darling? 895 00:51:29,211 --> 00:51:31,421 - See, when I talk to the-- - [Griffin] Maureen? 896 00:51:31,505 --> 00:51:32,672 This is Maria. 897 00:51:36,343 --> 00:51:39,304 [Rusty] She had a real thing about your name. 898 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,224 We were somewhere 899 00:51:42,349 --> 00:51:45,102 and the press was interviewing her 900 00:51:45,185 --> 00:51:47,813 and the reporter said, um, 901 00:51:48,396 --> 00:51:50,482 "Well, how's little Mariska?" 902 00:51:50,565 --> 00:51:52,776 Jayne says, "Her name is Maria. 903 00:51:52,859 --> 00:51:56,530 I'll spell it for you. M-A-R-I-A. Maria." 904 00:51:58,865 --> 00:52:00,325 [music fades] 905 00:52:00,408 --> 00:52:02,285 You know, you mentioned that my husband 906 00:52:02,369 --> 00:52:03,453 was going to come on. 907 00:52:03,537 --> 00:52:04,955 He just stepped out for a minute. 908 00:52:05,038 --> 00:52:07,124 Maybe he's back now. Think we could beckon him? 909 00:52:07,207 --> 00:52:09,000 - Matt! - [laughs] 910 00:52:09,084 --> 00:52:10,836 Might as well bring the gang on. 911 00:52:10,919 --> 00:52:12,129 Matt Cimber! 912 00:52:12,212 --> 00:52:13,588 [cheery tune plays] 913 00:52:13,713 --> 00:52:15,423 - Hello, Matt. - Hi. 914 00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:18,343 [indistinct conversation] 915 00:52:18,426 --> 00:52:19,678 You know him. 916 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:22,389 Ms. Jayne Mansfield. 917 00:52:22,472 --> 00:52:24,641 I know you. How are you? 918 00:52:26,393 --> 00:52:29,938 I remember him coming into our life 919 00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:34,776 and mostly it being like, you know, devastating, 920 00:52:34,901 --> 00:52:36,194 that like, "Where's my dad?" 921 00:52:38,405 --> 00:52:40,574 And then all of a sudden we became Italian. 922 00:52:40,699 --> 00:52:42,159 [laughs] And it was like, 923 00:52:42,242 --> 00:52:45,120 "You call me 'Mama' and you call him 'Papa.'" 924 00:52:45,245 --> 00:52:47,664 And I'm like, what the fuck? It's like... 925 00:52:47,747 --> 00:52:49,374 - [Mariska] Oh, really? - It was weird. Yeah. 926 00:52:51,418 --> 00:52:53,628 [Mickey Jr.] And then, the family life 927 00:52:53,753 --> 00:52:56,173 started getting really sketchy. 928 00:52:57,757 --> 00:53:00,051 They fought like wildcats. Always fighting. 929 00:53:02,762 --> 00:53:04,306 Matt had a bad temper, 930 00:53:05,098 --> 00:53:07,184 but Jayne would never admit 931 00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:08,643 if somebody had the better of her. 932 00:53:08,768 --> 00:53:10,687 She'd say, "Oh, everything's all right." 933 00:53:11,771 --> 00:53:12,981 I ask her about it. 934 00:53:13,106 --> 00:53:16,610 "Oh, we-we have our battles. We're alright." 935 00:53:20,238 --> 00:53:23,950 But, you know, she would have bruises. 936 00:53:25,785 --> 00:53:27,621 [Mariska] Why do you think she married him? 937 00:53:27,704 --> 00:53:30,165 Because he was a director. 938 00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:32,876 [applause, cheering] 939 00:53:32,959 --> 00:53:36,630 But it didn't do anything for her career. 940 00:53:40,467 --> 00:53:43,386 Things were changing for her in the '60s, 941 00:53:45,347 --> 00:53:49,100 and so she had to turn to doing nightclubs. 942 00:53:49,184 --> 00:53:53,605 [scattered applause] 943 00:53:53,688 --> 00:53:56,566 [interviewer] 944 00:53:57,317 --> 00:53:59,110 I sing, do a little dancing, 945 00:53:59,194 --> 00:54:01,238 tell some jokes, have a lot of fun generally. 946 00:54:02,864 --> 00:54:05,450 [Jayne] 947 00:54:12,832 --> 00:54:16,044 [applause and cheering continue] 948 00:54:18,171 --> 00:54:19,756 [music softens] 949 00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:23,051 [Ellen] At that time, alcohol came in. 950 00:54:25,387 --> 00:54:28,306 And so did pills. 951 00:54:29,015 --> 00:54:31,685 And so I would take it upon myself 952 00:54:31,768 --> 00:54:35,522 to hide the bourbon and-and, uh... 953 00:54:37,065 --> 00:54:40,151 empty the pills out, that kind of thing. 954 00:54:41,528 --> 00:54:44,531 So, I was a caretaker. 955 00:54:47,784 --> 00:54:51,454 I think Matt was the worst thing that ever happened to her. 956 00:54:54,416 --> 00:54:56,793 The only thing good came out of that was Tony. 957 00:54:56,876 --> 00:55:00,672 [reporters clamoring] 958 00:55:00,755 --> 00:55:02,966 [flash bulb snaps, echoes] 959 00:55:03,049 --> 00:55:05,760 [host] Now the introduction of a new baby 960 00:55:05,885 --> 00:55:08,680 whose mother is star Jayne Mansfield. 961 00:55:08,763 --> 00:55:10,598 Well, that's something special. 962 00:55:10,724 --> 00:55:12,559 So let's go Hollywood Backstage 963 00:55:12,642 --> 00:55:14,436 and meet this bright new addition. 964 00:55:15,562 --> 00:55:17,647 [gentle ambient instrumentals playing] 965 00:55:17,731 --> 00:55:22,068 [Tony] My father, Matt, never really talked about her. 966 00:55:24,070 --> 00:55:26,531 I guess that's kind of unfortunate 967 00:55:26,614 --> 00:55:30,660 because I never asked, and I don't know why. 968 00:55:31,828 --> 00:55:34,497 [Mariska] But your dad and our mother, 969 00:55:35,665 --> 00:55:38,793 there are things that I've heard that I'm always... 970 00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:43,089 fearful to bring up with you. 971 00:55:43,173 --> 00:55:44,841 I know. 972 00:55:44,924 --> 00:55:47,218 Things that are, um, really ugly. 973 00:55:47,802 --> 00:55:48,845 Yes. 974 00:55:50,263 --> 00:55:52,390 - About their relationship. - And I'm sure. 975 00:55:52,474 --> 00:55:53,516 And I'm sure. 976 00:55:55,769 --> 00:55:57,103 But... 977 00:55:58,104 --> 00:56:00,607 I don't know those ugly things. 978 00:56:00,690 --> 00:56:03,318 I don't know that I want to know. 979 00:56:04,569 --> 00:56:08,448 Because I don't want to carry it 980 00:56:10,533 --> 00:56:12,827 because I don't know what good it does. 981 00:56:12,952 --> 00:56:17,123 [gentle, hesitant notes resonate] 982 00:56:17,207 --> 00:56:21,461 [music intensifies suddenly, turns dramatic] 983 00:56:40,063 --> 00:56:42,565 [microfiche reader crackling] 984 00:56:47,654 --> 00:56:51,282 [Mariska] "April 11th, 1936. 985 00:56:51,991 --> 00:56:56,329 Herbert W. Palmer, 32, Phillipsburg lawyer 986 00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:59,249 and a native of Pen Argyl, Pennsylvania, 987 00:56:59,332 --> 00:57:01,876 died suddenly in his automobile 988 00:57:02,001 --> 00:57:05,422 while driving up the Morris street hill, Phillipsburg, 989 00:57:05,505 --> 00:57:07,215 on Saturday evening. 990 00:57:08,842 --> 00:57:12,345 While driving up the hill, he collapsed. 991 00:57:12,429 --> 00:57:14,639 His wife stopped the car at once. 992 00:57:15,723 --> 00:57:18,893 The physician pronounced Mr. Palmer dead, 993 00:57:19,018 --> 00:57:20,437 victim of a heart attack. 994 00:57:22,021 --> 00:57:25,108 He's survived by his wife, Mrs. Vera Palmer, 995 00:57:26,025 --> 00:57:29,195 and a daughter, Vera Jayne." 996 00:57:29,279 --> 00:57:34,909 [gentle, solemn instrumentals playing] 997 00:57:37,287 --> 00:57:39,372 I think that's where I start now, 998 00:57:40,248 --> 00:57:42,792 is looking, that here is our mother, 999 00:57:44,252 --> 00:57:47,172 this little girl whose father died 1000 00:57:47,255 --> 00:57:50,008 when she was three years old 1001 00:57:51,092 --> 00:57:53,219 and she was in the car with him. 1002 00:57:56,389 --> 00:57:58,516 We start there with Jayne. 1003 00:57:59,309 --> 00:58:01,686 We start there with loss. 1004 00:58:03,062 --> 00:58:04,564 And I go, 1005 00:58:04,647 --> 00:58:06,733 - "I know that one." - [echoed] "I know that one." 1006 00:58:09,235 --> 00:58:13,239 [Mariska] So did she talk to you about her childhood at all? 1007 00:58:15,283 --> 00:58:17,285 [Jayne Marie] She never told me about her childhood. 1008 00:58:19,913 --> 00:58:22,999 But I do know losing her dad, 1009 00:58:24,459 --> 00:58:26,669 that's something she carried around with her 1010 00:58:26,753 --> 00:58:28,379 her whole life. 1011 00:58:28,463 --> 00:58:31,299 I mean, I caught her crying looking at his picture 1012 00:58:31,424 --> 00:58:32,717 several times. 1013 00:58:35,178 --> 00:58:37,305 [Rusty] People don't know the whole story. 1014 00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:39,766 They only know what they see. 1015 00:58:41,643 --> 00:58:45,063 She didn't always make good choices with men. 1016 00:58:46,439 --> 00:58:49,442 But you know something, I think... 1017 00:58:50,318 --> 00:58:53,112 her miseries all stem back to when her father died. 1018 00:58:55,031 --> 00:58:57,700 She spent the rest of her life looking for her father, 1019 00:58:57,784 --> 00:58:59,619 being a young girl looking for her father. 1020 00:59:00,620 --> 00:59:03,331 - [reporters clamoring] - [camera shutter snapping] 1021 00:59:03,456 --> 00:59:06,251 [gentle, solemn music playing] 1022 00:59:06,334 --> 00:59:08,836 [Ellen] So in 1966, 1023 00:59:09,837 --> 00:59:14,342 Jayne finally wanted to get a divorce from Matt Cimber. 1024 00:59:17,053 --> 00:59:19,639 And during that time, 1025 00:59:20,306 --> 00:59:23,393 she started dating her divorce attorney, 1026 00:59:23,977 --> 00:59:26,062 this guy named Sam Brody. 1027 00:59:26,145 --> 00:59:28,898 [music darkens] 1028 00:59:31,484 --> 00:59:33,486 [Mickey Jr.] I didn't like him at all. 1029 00:59:33,570 --> 00:59:34,946 There was a lot of fighting. 1030 00:59:37,365 --> 00:59:41,202 I remember one time going into Mom's room in the morning 1031 00:59:41,327 --> 00:59:44,539 and I remember her wearing sunglasses, 1032 00:59:44,664 --> 00:59:46,749 and I was like, you know, 1033 00:59:46,833 --> 00:59:49,877 taken aback by that, you know, a little boy, 1034 00:59:50,003 --> 00:59:52,880 why would your mom be wearing sunglasses? 1035 00:59:53,006 --> 00:59:55,341 But then at some point, she took 'em off 1036 00:59:55,425 --> 00:59:59,554 and she had black eyes, and I remember that hurt. 1037 01:00:03,391 --> 01:00:04,809 I knew he was a bad man. 1038 01:00:04,892 --> 01:00:07,270 I knew, you know, right away. 1039 01:00:10,398 --> 01:00:12,275 [Mickey] It was, um... 1040 01:00:12,358 --> 01:00:14,694 She felt she don't have much, 1041 01:00:16,362 --> 01:00:18,031 but, uh... 1042 01:00:20,074 --> 01:00:22,035 she don't realize one thing, 1043 01:00:22,118 --> 01:00:23,953 that she had herself. 1044 01:00:25,788 --> 01:00:28,291 And when a person loses themselves, 1045 01:00:29,417 --> 01:00:32,378 you know, you lose everything. 1046 01:00:35,048 --> 01:00:37,967 And I tried to tell her that, "You have you. 1047 01:00:38,051 --> 01:00:39,844 That is the most important thing." 1048 01:00:41,554 --> 01:00:42,680 Because she always had me. 1049 01:00:42,764 --> 01:00:44,390 She knew that. 1050 01:00:44,474 --> 01:00:46,976 But seems like, at times, it wasn't enough. 1051 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:55,401 [Ellen] There was one night in 1967, 1052 01:00:55,485 --> 01:00:58,071 Jayne was in New York with Sam Brody 1053 01:00:59,072 --> 01:01:02,575 and she called Mickey to come into the city. 1054 01:01:04,285 --> 01:01:07,330 At that time, Mickey and I were already dating. 1055 01:01:08,498 --> 01:01:10,625 So, we went together. 1056 01:01:12,460 --> 01:01:15,296 And she was all roughed up or something, 1057 01:01:15,421 --> 01:01:17,382 but she was not herself. 1058 01:01:18,841 --> 01:01:21,594 So she and Mickey went out to dinner, 1059 01:01:21,678 --> 01:01:24,972 because he was trying to help her with Sam. 1060 01:01:27,266 --> 01:01:30,186 And then two weeks later, 1061 01:01:30,269 --> 01:01:32,146 she went to Biloxi, Mississippi, 1062 01:01:32,271 --> 01:01:33,898 to do a show. 1063 01:01:35,191 --> 01:01:37,026 And at midnight 1064 01:01:37,110 --> 01:01:39,237 they were scheduled to go to New Orleans. 1065 01:01:40,947 --> 01:01:44,492 You, Mickey, and Zolie were in the car with Jayne, 1066 01:01:44,617 --> 01:01:47,620 the driver, and Sam Brody. 1067 01:01:47,704 --> 01:01:49,872 [music fades quickly] 1068 01:01:49,956 --> 01:01:51,708 And that's when it happened. 1069 01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:55,378 [prolonged silence] 1070 01:02:01,008 --> 01:02:02,760 [tearfully] I wanna say something 1071 01:02:02,844 --> 01:02:04,262 but I'm not gonna talk about it 1072 01:02:04,345 --> 01:02:07,223 'cause it was the last minutes of her life. [sniffles] 1073 01:02:09,183 --> 01:02:10,852 Just so deep. 1074 01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:20,111 My mother. [sniffles] 1075 01:02:21,195 --> 01:02:22,530 Yeah... 1076 01:02:24,824 --> 01:02:26,868 [sighs heavily] 1077 01:02:28,369 --> 01:02:31,372 So, Mom was arguing 1078 01:02:31,497 --> 01:02:33,291 with the person in the front of the car. 1079 01:02:35,168 --> 01:02:36,461 It was Sam. 1080 01:02:37,336 --> 01:02:39,213 She wanted to get away from Sam. 1081 01:02:41,048 --> 01:02:43,634 And I remember she went in the back seat. 1082 01:02:43,718 --> 01:02:45,303 And she went to the gas station. 1083 01:02:45,386 --> 01:02:46,679 I think she called Dad 1084 01:02:46,763 --> 01:02:50,725 'cause Dad said that, um, she had called him. 1085 01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:55,938 [Mickey] I talked to her an hour before. 1086 01:02:57,774 --> 01:03:00,276 She told me on the phone 1087 01:03:00,359 --> 01:03:03,446 that, "We have just another hour, 1088 01:03:03,529 --> 01:03:05,448 an hour and a half ride. 1089 01:03:06,407 --> 01:03:08,117 It's late. 1090 01:03:10,203 --> 01:03:12,872 I'm going to get the kids in the back seat 1091 01:03:12,955 --> 01:03:14,415 and let them sleep." 1092 01:03:15,458 --> 01:03:18,878 And then she went in the front seat of the car. 1093 01:03:20,838 --> 01:03:23,466 And I oft-- I often think about 1094 01:03:23,549 --> 01:03:26,552 why she didn't just stay in the back seat with us. 1095 01:03:28,387 --> 01:03:30,598 But I remember her comforting me... 1096 01:03:31,974 --> 01:03:33,643 telling me I was going to be fine. 1097 01:03:33,726 --> 01:03:34,852 [inhales sharply] 1098 01:03:34,936 --> 01:03:36,479 Twenty minutes later, 1099 01:03:36,562 --> 01:03:37,939 or half an hour, whatever, 1100 01:03:39,065 --> 01:03:40,733 I heard her scream so loud. 1101 01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:42,693 [breathing heavily] 1102 01:03:43,945 --> 01:03:47,281 And that was it. That just-- It was just silence. 1103 01:03:50,409 --> 01:03:53,079 [breathing heavily, tearfully] 1104 01:03:59,794 --> 01:04:03,297 [Mickey Jr.] My hands, my arms were all crusty... 1105 01:04:04,841 --> 01:04:06,801 and it felt like my skin didn't move 1106 01:04:06,926 --> 01:04:09,387 because it was bloody all over. 1107 01:04:09,470 --> 01:04:12,265 And then I looked up and I saw my, um... 1108 01:04:13,850 --> 01:04:16,602 I thought I saw my mom in the front seat. 1109 01:04:16,686 --> 01:04:18,729 [swallows forcefully] 1110 01:04:18,813 --> 01:04:20,940 And it was a blonde lady 1111 01:04:21,023 --> 01:04:23,734 and she turned back and looked at us, 1112 01:04:23,818 --> 01:04:25,695 and it wasn't my mom, you know, 1113 01:04:25,778 --> 01:04:27,446 it was somebody else who had found us 1114 01:04:27,530 --> 01:04:28,990 on the side of the road. 1115 01:04:29,115 --> 01:04:33,202 [sorrowful piano melody playing] 1116 01:04:33,286 --> 01:04:34,662 [Mariska] Do you remember what happened 1117 01:04:34,787 --> 01:04:36,622 after they came and got you? 1118 01:04:38,457 --> 01:04:39,876 [Zoltan] I fell asleep. 1119 01:04:41,460 --> 01:04:43,337 We were going to a hospital. 1120 01:04:44,964 --> 01:04:47,425 But at some point I woke up. 1121 01:04:49,302 --> 01:04:51,220 And I'm kind of like looking around 1122 01:04:51,304 --> 01:04:53,097 and I didn't see you. 1123 01:04:54,807 --> 01:04:57,310 And I said, "Where's Maria?" 1124 01:04:59,020 --> 01:05:00,897 And they said, "Who's Maria?" 1125 01:05:02,648 --> 01:05:04,901 So, uh... 1126 01:05:04,984 --> 01:05:06,611 then we doubled back. 1127 01:05:09,864 --> 01:05:11,240 [Ellen] You were lodged underneath 1128 01:05:11,324 --> 01:05:12,575 the passenger's seat. 1129 01:05:14,076 --> 01:05:15,620 With a head injury. 1130 01:05:17,997 --> 01:05:19,498 And, um... 1131 01:05:22,335 --> 01:05:23,794 Thank God. 1132 01:05:28,841 --> 01:05:30,843 Thank God Zolie woke up. 1133 01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:33,679 [sorrowful music continues] 1134 01:05:33,763 --> 01:05:35,306 [Zoltan] Oh... 1135 01:05:44,023 --> 01:05:48,527 [mournful, pensive string melody layers in] 1136 01:06:14,261 --> 01:06:16,389 [string melody fades] 1137 01:06:16,472 --> 01:06:19,767 [sorrowful melody resumes] 1138 01:06:26,273 --> 01:06:29,402 [music fades] 1139 01:06:35,074 --> 01:06:38,577 [gentle, solemn note resonates] 1140 01:06:38,661 --> 01:06:42,832 [hushed, indistinct chatter] 1141 01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:45,626 [Ellen] After everything happened, 1142 01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:48,587 Mickey called... 1143 01:06:51,090 --> 01:06:54,468 and he said for me to come to the hospital. 1144 01:06:55,678 --> 01:06:58,597 [gentle, hesitant instrumentals playing] 1145 01:07:08,524 --> 01:07:11,152 When God took Jayne from us, 1146 01:07:12,278 --> 01:07:13,863 I had a dream about her. 1147 01:07:15,781 --> 01:07:17,324 We were on a... 1148 01:07:18,451 --> 01:07:21,037 We were on a football field... 1149 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,875 and there was a stage and this limousine pulled up. 1150 01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:30,254 The door opens to the limousine, 1151 01:07:30,337 --> 01:07:33,799 and she walks completely across the field, 1152 01:07:36,677 --> 01:07:39,263 and she came up to me and she said... 1153 01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:44,477 "I'm so glad that you're taking care of the children. 1154 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,353 You're doing a great job." 1155 01:07:49,398 --> 01:07:51,067 It's a dream. 1156 01:07:51,984 --> 01:07:53,778 But it meant a lot. 1157 01:07:55,196 --> 01:07:57,865 It meant a lot to me. It was the silliest thing. 1158 01:08:01,243 --> 01:08:03,454 But I do think that Mickey and I 1159 01:08:03,537 --> 01:08:06,832 provided a very loving home. 1160 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,628 [projector clicking] 1161 01:08:10,711 --> 01:08:13,798 [Mariska] Our family was trying to build a new life, 1162 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,384 so Jayne Marie left to go live with her uncle, 1163 01:08:18,511 --> 01:08:20,846 Tony went with his dad, 1164 01:08:20,930 --> 01:08:23,349 and we moved into a new house. 1165 01:08:25,684 --> 01:08:28,145 Those are the first memories that I have. 1166 01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:33,359 I remember being around our kitchen table. 1167 01:08:34,193 --> 01:08:35,611 I used to play a game with my dad. 1168 01:08:35,694 --> 01:08:37,446 If I didn't want to eat something on my plate, 1169 01:08:37,530 --> 01:08:39,448 I would sneak it around and my dad would eat it. 1170 01:08:41,367 --> 01:08:42,785 We laughed so hard 1171 01:08:42,868 --> 01:08:45,454 and those were just the best times. 1172 01:08:48,374 --> 01:08:53,045 But in the summertime, my family would go to Europe. 1173 01:08:54,380 --> 01:08:56,340 And sometimes they would send me 1174 01:08:56,423 --> 01:08:58,717 to my grandmother's house by myself. 1175 01:08:58,801 --> 01:09:01,303 [music turns solemn] 1176 01:09:01,387 --> 01:09:05,724 And I used to get sad because it made me feel like 1177 01:09:05,808 --> 01:09:08,811 I was separate from the family. 1178 01:09:12,231 --> 01:09:15,317 And then one time when I was 12, 1179 01:09:16,902 --> 01:09:18,445 I was there 1180 01:09:19,446 --> 01:09:23,534 and I was talking about my dad so reverently, 1181 01:09:23,617 --> 01:09:25,161 like I always did... 1182 01:09:26,245 --> 01:09:28,038 and she looked at me 1183 01:09:28,122 --> 01:09:30,499 with the strangest expression and said... 1184 01:09:32,084 --> 01:09:33,669 "I'm all you have." 1185 01:09:35,504 --> 01:09:37,923 And I knew it meant something, 1186 01:09:39,633 --> 01:09:41,302 but I didn't know what. 1187 01:09:41,427 --> 01:09:45,389 [music fades into one prolonged solemn note] 1188 01:09:48,976 --> 01:09:52,605 [gentle, tinkling melody begins] 1189 01:09:54,773 --> 01:09:57,151 So when I was 21, 1190 01:09:58,485 --> 01:10:00,154 this guy named Sabin Gray, 1191 01:10:00,279 --> 01:10:02,656 who was head of the Jayne Mansfield Fan Club, 1192 01:10:02,781 --> 01:10:05,618 kept calling me up and inviting me over. 1193 01:10:06,952 --> 01:10:08,329 He kept saying, "Oh, we're gonna have 1194 01:10:08,454 --> 01:10:10,497 like a Valentine's party." 1195 01:10:11,957 --> 01:10:14,043 And Sabin was very persistent. He said, you know, 1196 01:10:14,126 --> 01:10:16,503 "It just really would mean the world to us if you came by." 1197 01:10:16,629 --> 01:10:18,172 So I was like, "Oh, okay." 1198 01:10:18,297 --> 01:10:20,507 [gentle, pensive music playing] 1199 01:10:20,633 --> 01:10:22,301 When I got there, 1200 01:10:22,384 --> 01:10:25,221 they had movie posters of her on the wall 1201 01:10:25,304 --> 01:10:27,681 and life-size cutouts 1202 01:10:27,806 --> 01:10:30,517 and all kinds of, um, things he'd collected. 1203 01:10:32,019 --> 01:10:34,605 It was a little weird for me. 1204 01:10:35,648 --> 01:10:40,194 But then, a few years after that, when I was 25, 1205 01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,697 I was invited to Sabin's house again, 1206 01:10:44,823 --> 01:10:46,283 and we were alone. 1207 01:10:48,035 --> 01:10:49,995 And then he says to me, 1208 01:10:50,829 --> 01:10:53,040 "Do you want to see a picture of Nelson?" 1209 01:11:00,172 --> 01:11:03,842 [music intensifies slightly] 1210 01:11:03,926 --> 01:11:06,387 And I said, "Who's Nelson?" 1211 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,848 And that's when, like, 1212 01:11:09,932 --> 01:11:12,226 I think the blood just drained out of his face 1213 01:11:12,351 --> 01:11:15,312 and he sort of went white as a ghost, 1214 01:11:15,396 --> 01:11:18,774 and he looked at me panicked, and he said, 1215 01:11:18,857 --> 01:11:21,068 "Well, it's probably not true. Probably not true." 1216 01:11:21,193 --> 01:11:22,903 And I said, "What's not true?" 1217 01:11:25,531 --> 01:11:28,826 And we went around the corner and he pulled out this book... 1218 01:11:30,369 --> 01:11:33,831 and he opened the page and he showed it to me, 1219 01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:38,752 and I just, like, 1220 01:11:38,877 --> 01:11:40,671 couldn't believe what I was seeing... 1221 01:11:43,382 --> 01:11:45,968 'cause it looked like the male version of me. 1222 01:11:46,885 --> 01:11:48,345 [music darkens, intensifies] 1223 01:11:48,429 --> 01:11:51,932 - [piercing tone resonating] - [camera shutter snapping] 1224 01:11:52,057 --> 01:11:54,101 [snapping quickens] 1225 01:11:54,226 --> 01:11:56,937 [tone intensifies, becomes more shrill] 1226 01:11:57,062 --> 01:11:59,189 [cacophony ends abruptly] 1227 01:11:59,273 --> 01:12:02,067 [quiet, uneasy feedback squeals] 1228 01:12:04,445 --> 01:12:06,322 And it was like the... 1229 01:12:07,823 --> 01:12:10,701 It was like the floor fell out from underneath me. 1230 01:12:10,784 --> 01:12:13,787 [solemn, dramatic music playing] 1231 01:12:13,912 --> 01:12:15,622 It was, um... 1232 01:12:15,748 --> 01:12:17,082 [inhales deeply] 1233 01:12:17,166 --> 01:12:19,710 ...just the bottom dropped out of everything. 1234 01:12:20,919 --> 01:12:23,547 It was like my infrastructure dissolved. 1235 01:12:24,256 --> 01:12:25,424 And, uh... 1236 01:12:26,091 --> 01:12:29,386 life as I knew it was irrevocably changed. 1237 01:12:29,470 --> 01:12:31,513 [music fades] 1238 01:12:31,597 --> 01:12:33,349 [sorrowful melody begins] 1239 01:12:33,432 --> 01:12:36,727 So then I drove up to see my dad. 1240 01:12:39,104 --> 01:12:41,106 And I walked in, 1241 01:12:41,190 --> 01:12:46,862 I was, um, crying pretty hard, and I said, 1242 01:12:48,113 --> 01:12:50,866 "Why didn't you tell me you're not my father? 1243 01:12:50,949 --> 01:12:52,368 You lied to me." 1244 01:12:53,994 --> 01:12:56,955 And he... 1245 01:12:59,458 --> 01:13:02,628 came back at me with, "What are you talking about? 1246 01:13:02,753 --> 01:13:05,881 I love you. You are my daughter. 1247 01:13:05,964 --> 01:13:08,550 Where did you hear this? It's all bullshit." 1248 01:13:10,844 --> 01:13:13,806 And he got more upset than I was. 1249 01:13:15,808 --> 01:13:18,352 More convincing than I was. 1250 01:13:20,312 --> 01:13:22,856 I was in so much pain, 1251 01:13:24,525 --> 01:13:30,239 but I could see his pain was almost worse. 1252 01:13:33,158 --> 01:13:37,454 So I decided I wouldn't talk about it again... 1253 01:13:39,164 --> 01:13:42,042 and I would never bring it up to him again. 1254 01:13:43,877 --> 01:13:46,839 And I never did. 1255 01:13:46,922 --> 01:13:49,967 [music fades] 1256 01:13:50,050 --> 01:13:54,138 [gentle, melancholy music playing] 1257 01:13:56,682 --> 01:13:58,100 But the fact is, 1258 01:13:59,351 --> 01:14:01,270 I had bad years after that. 1259 01:14:03,188 --> 01:14:04,815 I didn't tell anyone. 1260 01:14:06,442 --> 01:14:09,361 And I would just go to bed every night crying because... 1261 01:14:10,529 --> 01:14:13,323 I felt lost. 1262 01:14:14,575 --> 01:14:17,327 I had an identity crisis. 1263 01:14:19,037 --> 01:14:21,582 Was I Mariska or Maria? 1264 01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:25,627 Was I Hungarian or Italian? 1265 01:14:26,879 --> 01:14:29,673 I mean, who was I related to? Who did I belong to? 1266 01:14:30,924 --> 01:14:34,636 And then on top of it, I was born out of some affair, 1267 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:39,099 like some illegitimate, sinful mistake? 1268 01:14:41,059 --> 01:14:42,728 I was so... 1269 01:14:42,811 --> 01:14:43,937 [inhales deeply] 1270 01:14:44,062 --> 01:14:45,522 ...angry at my mother 1271 01:14:46,773 --> 01:14:48,817 for leaving me in this mess. 1272 01:14:51,069 --> 01:14:53,739 And for hurting my father. 1273 01:14:55,407 --> 01:14:59,870 And leaving me feeling so alone and untethered. 1274 01:15:03,248 --> 01:15:06,168 And so for me to survive, 1275 01:15:07,419 --> 01:15:10,172 I excised, disowned 1276 01:15:11,089 --> 01:15:14,218 the part of myself that was my mother's daughter. 1277 01:15:14,301 --> 01:15:18,180 [melancholy music continues] 1278 01:15:20,807 --> 01:15:23,977 But then I realized there's this other person. 1279 01:15:24,102 --> 01:15:25,854 Who was this other person? 1280 01:15:26,772 --> 01:15:28,398 Does he not know about me? 1281 01:15:28,482 --> 01:15:30,442 Was he not thinking about me? 1282 01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:34,446 He must have known. Why didn't he claim me? 1283 01:15:36,490 --> 01:15:39,326 He was an entertainer. 1284 01:15:40,494 --> 01:15:44,998 And so, five years later, when I was 30 years old, 1285 01:15:45,123 --> 01:15:47,543 my friend and I went to Atlantic City 1286 01:15:48,669 --> 01:15:50,337 and we went to his show. 1287 01:15:51,547 --> 01:15:55,842 And after the show, he came out and I said, 1288 01:15:55,968 --> 01:15:57,386 "Hi, Nelson. 1289 01:15:57,469 --> 01:16:00,013 My name is Mariska Hargitay. 1290 01:16:00,138 --> 01:16:02,015 I understand you knew my mother." 1291 01:16:02,975 --> 01:16:04,685 And he... 1292 01:16:05,852 --> 01:16:10,357 looked at me and basically burst into tears, 1293 01:16:10,482 --> 01:16:12,276 and he grabbed my ear... 1294 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,696 and he said, "I've been waiting 1295 01:16:15,821 --> 01:16:18,031 30 years for this moment." 1296 01:16:23,328 --> 01:16:27,583 And I think we stayed up until five in the morning 1297 01:16:27,666 --> 01:16:28,917 just talking. 1298 01:16:30,586 --> 01:16:33,005 He said I had two sisters 1299 01:16:35,007 --> 01:16:37,050 and he told me the whole story. 1300 01:16:39,511 --> 01:16:41,179 That was 30 years ago. 1301 01:16:42,347 --> 01:16:44,433 And I've kept it a secret ever since. 1302 01:16:44,516 --> 01:16:48,812 [gentle, solemn instrumentals playing] 1303 01:16:52,024 --> 01:16:53,775 [music fades] 1304 01:16:55,694 --> 01:16:57,946 [Mariska inhales deeply, sighs] 1305 01:16:59,197 --> 01:17:00,657 [Mariska] So here we are. 1306 01:17:00,741 --> 01:17:02,326 [Nelson] Here we are. 1307 01:17:06,288 --> 01:17:07,998 [Mariska] I was up, um... 1308 01:17:09,207 --> 01:17:11,585 all night, pretty much, last night... 1309 01:17:11,710 --> 01:17:13,670 - [Nelson] Yeah. - ...thinking about 1310 01:17:13,754 --> 01:17:16,465 you and I have been living with this secret 1311 01:17:16,548 --> 01:17:17,924 since I was 25. 1312 01:17:18,050 --> 01:17:19,217 Yeah. 1313 01:17:20,052 --> 01:17:23,597 I waited for a long time to have this. 1314 01:17:24,389 --> 01:17:25,807 [Mariska] Thank you for your patience. 1315 01:17:25,891 --> 01:17:27,225 [Nelson] Are you kidding? 1316 01:17:27,309 --> 01:17:29,895 When I came to Vegas in '65, 1317 01:17:29,978 --> 01:17:31,355 the columnist asked, 1318 01:17:31,438 --> 01:17:33,774 "Are you the Nelson Sardelli 1319 01:17:34,608 --> 01:17:37,903 that had an affair with Jayne Mansfield?" 1320 01:17:39,112 --> 01:17:41,907 I said, "You're going to do me a favor." 1321 01:17:43,241 --> 01:17:44,826 He said, "What?" 1322 01:17:44,910 --> 01:17:46,244 "See my show. 1323 01:17:46,953 --> 01:17:49,539 If I suck, crucify me. 1324 01:17:50,457 --> 01:17:52,042 Put an end to my career. 1325 01:17:53,001 --> 01:17:57,631 But do not mention our relationship." 1326 01:17:59,591 --> 01:18:02,469 [host] Nelson Sardelli. Let's give him a nice welcome. 1327 01:18:02,594 --> 01:18:06,390 - [rhythmic tapping] - [tambourine rattling] 1328 01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:11,520 ["Quando, Quando, Quando" playing] 1329 01:18:12,771 --> 01:18:15,399 ♪ Dimmi quando tu verrai ♪ 1330 01:18:18,485 --> 01:18:21,321 ♪ Dimmi quando tu verrai ♪ 1331 01:18:21,446 --> 01:18:24,157 ♪ Dimmi quando, quando, quando ♪ 1332 01:18:24,282 --> 01:18:26,910 ♪ L'anno, il giorno e l'ora in cui ♪ 1333 01:18:26,993 --> 01:18:28,912 ♪ Forse tu mi bacerai ♪ 1334 01:18:29,955 --> 01:18:31,415 [song pauses with echo] 1335 01:18:31,498 --> 01:18:34,376 [song resumes] 1336 01:18:41,341 --> 01:18:42,801 [song pauses, then resumes] 1337 01:18:42,926 --> 01:18:44,678 [Nelson] I was in the beginning of my career 1338 01:18:45,637 --> 01:18:48,432 and I did a show in Atlanta, 1339 01:18:48,515 --> 01:18:52,018 and this particular night, I decided to go for a walk. 1340 01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:54,730 [song continues] 1341 01:18:54,813 --> 01:18:57,232 And all of a sudden I see a commotion 1342 01:18:57,315 --> 01:18:58,567 in front of the club. 1343 01:18:59,484 --> 01:19:01,236 And I enter the club. 1344 01:19:01,319 --> 01:19:02,863 The waitress came running to me. 1345 01:19:02,988 --> 01:19:05,031 She says, "Jayne Mansfield is here." 1346 01:19:05,157 --> 01:19:06,867 [song pauses, then resumes] 1347 01:19:06,992 --> 01:19:08,618 And I approached Jayne, 1348 01:19:09,661 --> 01:19:11,288 and, uh... 1349 01:19:11,371 --> 01:19:13,915 Jayne looked at me and she spoke Italian, 1350 01:19:13,999 --> 01:19:15,917 you know, she says, "Buona sera." 1351 01:19:16,001 --> 01:19:18,044 [song pauses with flourish] 1352 01:19:18,170 --> 01:19:19,921 Then she says, "Come and see my show." 1353 01:19:20,005 --> 01:19:21,673 [song resumes] 1354 01:19:21,757 --> 01:19:22,883 So I went, 1355 01:19:24,217 --> 01:19:26,136 and when the show finished, 1356 01:19:26,219 --> 01:19:28,138 she says, "We go in your car." 1357 01:19:29,431 --> 01:19:30,766 I said, "Whoa-ah." 1358 01:19:31,516 --> 01:19:33,351 [song continues] 1359 01:19:33,435 --> 01:19:39,191 ♪ "Non ci lasceremo mai" ♪ 1360 01:19:40,942 --> 01:19:42,068 Whee! 1361 01:19:42,194 --> 01:19:44,696 [song ends with flourish] 1362 01:19:44,780 --> 01:19:47,449 [applause] 1363 01:19:50,619 --> 01:19:52,704 [Mariska] Where was my dad during all of this? 1364 01:19:52,788 --> 01:19:54,998 [solemn music playing] 1365 01:19:55,081 --> 01:19:59,127 [Nelson] There was some family friction there... 1366 01:20:00,629 --> 01:20:02,798 so they were not talking to each other. 1367 01:20:04,216 --> 01:20:05,926 [Mariska] So she was separated? 1368 01:20:06,051 --> 01:20:08,178 Or what was the deal with my dad? Just so I can-- 1369 01:20:08,261 --> 01:20:10,180 They were separate-- They were having trouble. 1370 01:20:10,263 --> 01:20:12,390 [Mariska] But if you're going in public places together. 1371 01:20:12,474 --> 01:20:13,934 Very much so. 1372 01:20:16,144 --> 01:20:18,438 We went every place together. 1373 01:20:20,732 --> 01:20:23,026 Then we start performing together. 1374 01:20:26,154 --> 01:20:29,074 Then I start being introduced to the kids. 1375 01:20:32,577 --> 01:20:35,914 And I went to Juárez for her divorce. 1376 01:20:36,623 --> 01:20:38,083 I was there with her. 1377 01:20:44,172 --> 01:20:47,717 After that, we went to make a movie in Germany. 1378 01:20:50,303 --> 01:20:51,805 And then we rented a car, 1379 01:20:53,473 --> 01:20:55,934 and we drove all over Europe. 1380 01:20:56,017 --> 01:20:58,270 [gentle, dramatic music playing] 1381 01:21:02,691 --> 01:21:04,401 [Mariska] Where are these beautiful photos? 1382 01:21:04,484 --> 01:21:05,902 [Nelson] This is in the Alps. 1383 01:21:07,779 --> 01:21:09,281 Tell me about this. 1384 01:21:11,658 --> 01:21:14,077 This is as we entered Italy. 1385 01:21:18,498 --> 01:21:20,876 [Mariska] When did you find out that she was pregnant? 1386 01:21:21,793 --> 01:21:22,878 [Nelson] Germany. 1387 01:21:24,129 --> 01:21:25,380 [Mariska] Oh... 1388 01:21:25,463 --> 01:21:27,632 Wow. I didn't know that. That's... 1389 01:21:27,716 --> 01:21:29,968 - Wow. That's... - Oh yes. Oh yes. 1390 01:21:32,470 --> 01:21:35,307 "Father's Day, 1963. 1391 01:21:36,016 --> 01:21:37,517 To Nelson. 1392 01:21:37,642 --> 01:21:41,855 This special day is even more special to each of us. 1393 01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:45,066 The seed of our eternal love grows 1394 01:21:45,150 --> 01:21:49,696 as the sapling that one day must be a strong oak. 1395 01:21:50,697 --> 01:21:54,367 Te amo al di la, Jayne." 1396 01:21:54,492 --> 01:21:56,411 "Al di la" means... 1397 01:21:58,246 --> 01:21:59,789 "far beyond," you know? 1398 01:22:02,542 --> 01:22:03,668 [Mariska] "Dearest Mama, 1399 01:22:04,669 --> 01:22:06,046 I am going through perhaps 1400 01:22:06,171 --> 01:22:09,049 the most trying time of my life now, 1401 01:22:09,174 --> 01:22:11,760 indecision regarding Mickey and Nelson. 1402 01:22:13,011 --> 01:22:14,930 I have the love of two men, 1403 01:22:16,056 --> 01:22:18,350 a very deep love from each of them. 1404 01:22:19,267 --> 01:22:22,437 I hope God shows me the way soon, 1405 01:22:23,563 --> 01:22:26,149 because I have really been depressed of late." 1406 01:22:26,232 --> 01:22:28,193 [music fades] 1407 01:22:28,276 --> 01:22:31,029 [tender, melancholy instrumentals playing] 1408 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,996 [Nelson] So at the end of the trip, 1409 01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,540 we went to the St. Peter cathedral. 1410 01:22:44,751 --> 01:22:46,836 And she says, "Let's make some vows." 1411 01:22:49,297 --> 01:22:50,715 It was beautiful. 1412 01:22:52,634 --> 01:22:55,512 And then she look at me and she says, "Nelson, 1413 01:22:56,429 --> 01:22:58,682 suppose if we get married 1414 01:23:01,101 --> 01:23:03,728 and I get pregnant by another man... 1415 01:23:06,982 --> 01:23:08,942 would you take me back?" 1416 01:23:11,403 --> 01:23:15,156 I couldn't believe it. I say, "How dare you to ask me 1417 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,575 such a... [grunts] ...question?" 1418 01:23:17,659 --> 01:23:18,994 You understand? 1419 01:23:19,786 --> 01:23:20,996 It just... 1420 01:23:21,913 --> 01:23:24,082 It... it was a crash. 1421 01:23:25,834 --> 01:23:28,044 And I... That, I couldn't take it. 1422 01:23:29,421 --> 01:23:30,964 It was too much. 1423 01:23:32,007 --> 01:23:34,050 I said, "Jayne, tomorrow, 1424 01:23:34,801 --> 01:23:36,928 you go back to America, I stay, 1425 01:23:38,513 --> 01:23:42,600 and then you and I will never see each other again." 1426 01:23:46,062 --> 01:23:49,566 [Mariska] You knew that she was pregnant with your child? 1427 01:23:50,734 --> 01:23:51,776 [Nelson] Yes. 1428 01:23:53,319 --> 01:23:55,405 Mariska, I am not denying it. 1429 01:23:57,115 --> 01:24:00,285 And I say this was the biggest shame in my life. 1430 01:24:01,953 --> 01:24:03,204 I was wrong. 1431 01:24:06,124 --> 01:24:07,625 Did you ever talk to her again? 1432 01:24:07,709 --> 01:24:10,670 [prolonged tense note plays] 1433 01:24:12,380 --> 01:24:16,176 [tender, somber instrumentals playing] 1434 01:24:16,301 --> 01:24:19,179 [Nelson] It eats me up that I assumed that position 1435 01:24:19,304 --> 01:24:20,889 of never talking to her 1436 01:24:23,016 --> 01:24:27,103 because a lot of people paid the price 1437 01:24:27,187 --> 01:24:29,606 for this love affair we had. 1438 01:24:35,945 --> 01:24:38,198 [interviewer] Jayne and Mickey, welcome to California. 1439 01:24:38,323 --> 01:24:39,866 How does it feel to be home? 1440 01:24:40,658 --> 01:24:42,952 [Jayne] It's just great. It really is. 1441 01:24:43,036 --> 01:24:46,706 I haven't been home myself since last March. 1442 01:24:46,831 --> 01:24:48,708 And now we're back here for Mickey 1443 01:24:48,833 --> 01:24:51,044 to continue on his television work 1444 01:24:52,003 --> 01:24:54,130 and to have a baby. [laughs] 1445 01:24:54,214 --> 01:24:55,507 That's right. 1446 01:24:59,344 --> 01:25:02,347 [music intensifies] 1447 01:25:03,848 --> 01:25:06,810 [Nelson] I can't imagine what your father felt. 1448 01:25:06,893 --> 01:25:09,354 [music softens] 1449 01:25:11,606 --> 01:25:13,566 But I am grateful to him. 1450 01:25:18,196 --> 01:25:20,782 [Mariska] Why didn't you ever reach out after I was born? 1451 01:25:23,284 --> 01:25:25,203 [Nelson] When your mother died, 1452 01:25:26,204 --> 01:25:30,750 your grandmother Vera wanted me to rock the boat 1453 01:25:32,210 --> 01:25:35,713 and claim you or something. 1454 01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:40,677 But by that time, Mickey was the father you knew. 1455 01:25:42,303 --> 01:25:46,850 And your siblings, they were your siblings. 1456 01:25:48,393 --> 01:25:50,353 What would I be accomplishing 1457 01:25:50,436 --> 01:25:53,982 that would be beneficial to you? 1458 01:25:55,775 --> 01:25:57,277 And as the years went by, 1459 01:25:58,570 --> 01:26:02,991 I had a chance to talk to Mickey Hargitay one time. 1460 01:26:04,742 --> 01:26:05,827 And he said to me, 1461 01:26:07,162 --> 01:26:08,329 "Nelson, 1462 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,915 nobody has to tell me 1463 01:26:12,167 --> 01:26:14,502 who's the father of my child." 1464 01:26:15,962 --> 01:26:17,547 And I said to him, 1465 01:26:19,007 --> 01:26:21,467 "I will not embarrass you in any way. 1466 01:26:23,303 --> 01:26:24,387 Never." 1467 01:26:24,470 --> 01:26:27,473 [somber music continues] 1468 01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:37,317 [solemn, lilting bell melody plays] 1469 01:26:37,859 --> 01:26:39,861 Jayne Mansfield had three children 1470 01:26:39,944 --> 01:26:41,446 by her second husband, Mickey Hargitay. 1471 01:26:41,529 --> 01:26:43,489 Miklós, and I hope I'm saying these names properly, 1472 01:26:43,615 --> 01:26:45,241 Zoltan, and Mariska Hargitay 1473 01:26:45,325 --> 01:26:47,410 were all raised by their father and... 1474 01:26:47,493 --> 01:26:48,745 after their mother died. 1475 01:26:48,828 --> 01:26:49,996 - Nice to meet you. - Good morning. 1476 01:26:50,121 --> 01:26:51,623 - Nice to meet you. - Good to see you. 1477 01:26:51,706 --> 01:26:53,208 Good morning, David. Nice to see you. 1478 01:26:53,291 --> 01:26:54,626 [David] Thank you. 1479 01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:57,503 How much has your dad told you about your mom? 1480 01:26:57,629 --> 01:26:59,505 What kind of things has he told you? 1481 01:26:59,631 --> 01:27:03,343 Well, I mean, it just kind of comes up in conversation 1482 01:27:03,468 --> 01:27:04,844 and we talk about everything, 1483 01:27:04,969 --> 01:27:08,514 I mean, I think, just whenever it comes up. 1484 01:27:12,727 --> 01:27:14,979 [Mariska] Before I found out, 1485 01:27:15,063 --> 01:27:17,106 did you and Dad ever talk about Nelson? 1486 01:27:17,190 --> 01:27:19,442 I mean, it must have come up. 1487 01:27:20,985 --> 01:27:23,029 [Ellen] If it came up, 1488 01:27:23,154 --> 01:27:26,616 he would say, "I'm her father. 1489 01:27:26,699 --> 01:27:30,161 [firmly] I'm her father." Period. 1490 01:27:32,497 --> 01:27:37,085 And no matter what question I had about it, 1491 01:27:38,086 --> 01:27:42,423 I wanted to give Mickey the respect of being the one 1492 01:27:42,507 --> 01:27:45,969 who actually said whatever he knew. 1493 01:27:47,762 --> 01:27:49,514 [Mickey] When Mariska was born, 1494 01:27:50,306 --> 01:27:53,017 her mother Jayne Mansfield and I went to Hungary 1495 01:27:53,101 --> 01:27:55,979 and we announced it to my parents 1496 01:27:56,062 --> 01:28:00,566 and my mother wanted to name her, so much, Mariska. 1497 01:28:00,692 --> 01:28:02,193 And that's when she become Mariska. 1498 01:28:02,277 --> 01:28:04,070 She's a real Hungarian. 1499 01:28:05,029 --> 01:28:07,573 [somber music continues] 1500 01:28:10,451 --> 01:28:12,537 [Ellen] Mickey was a great father, 1501 01:28:14,122 --> 01:28:16,374 and he was so full of love for you. 1502 01:28:19,210 --> 01:28:25,216 But I think Mickey was quite capable of shutting out pain. 1503 01:28:26,759 --> 01:28:29,387 Which I think he did a lot with Jayne. 1504 01:28:32,223 --> 01:28:36,185 So he said, "Mariska's my daughter." 1505 01:28:38,604 --> 01:28:41,774 And he said that until the day he passed. 1506 01:28:52,577 --> 01:28:56,164 [music settles into solemn ambient instrumentals] 1507 01:29:02,337 --> 01:29:05,089 [Mariska] "She nudged me, 'Get me that Italian.' 1508 01:29:06,132 --> 01:29:07,467 I spoke with the owner, 1509 01:29:07,592 --> 01:29:10,011 and soon, Irwin approached Jayne's table, 1510 01:29:10,094 --> 01:29:11,971 the handsome Italian in tow. 1511 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,017 He introduced the Italian as Nelson Sardelli, 1512 01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:17,393 a performer who was appearing 1513 01:29:17,477 --> 01:29:19,979 at another club down the street. 1514 01:29:20,104 --> 01:29:22,231 Although nothing of great consequence was said, 1515 01:29:22,315 --> 01:29:25,568 it was a significant first meeting to Jayne. 1516 01:29:25,651 --> 01:29:28,237 'That,' she said, as we left the club, 1517 01:29:28,321 --> 01:29:31,532 'is going to be the father of my bambino. 1518 01:29:31,616 --> 01:29:34,619 My beautiful little Italian baby 1519 01:29:34,702 --> 01:29:36,371 I've always wanted.'" 1520 01:29:39,874 --> 01:29:42,752 What do you think she would think of your book? 1521 01:29:43,669 --> 01:29:45,671 Well, she would've had some questions about it. 1522 01:29:45,797 --> 01:29:48,716 "Why did you have to say that? You should've left that out." 1523 01:29:50,468 --> 01:29:53,346 [Mariska] Do you think the story of my biological father 1524 01:29:53,471 --> 01:29:55,181 was yours to tell? 1525 01:29:56,891 --> 01:29:59,143 What I knew of it, yes. 1526 01:30:01,979 --> 01:30:03,189 [Mariska] When you wrote it, 1527 01:30:04,148 --> 01:30:08,152 did you think about how it would impact my family? 1528 01:30:09,821 --> 01:30:11,114 No. 1529 01:30:15,743 --> 01:30:18,746 I am sorry if people were hurt by the book, 1530 01:30:20,373 --> 01:30:22,917 but it was truthful to the knowledge that I had. 1531 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,169 But I never set out to hurt anybody, 1532 01:30:25,253 --> 01:30:27,338 and I'm sorry if I did. 1533 01:30:28,756 --> 01:30:31,384 [somber music continues] 1534 01:30:33,761 --> 01:30:36,097 [Mariska] Reclaiming my own story, 1535 01:30:37,432 --> 01:30:39,809 that is what this is about for me. 1536 01:30:41,561 --> 01:30:44,689 I'd spent 35 years trying to hide that story 1537 01:30:46,065 --> 01:30:47,525 to honor my dad. 1538 01:30:48,526 --> 01:30:50,862 But something that I've also realized 1539 01:30:51,779 --> 01:30:54,157 is that sometimes keeping a secret 1540 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:55,533 doesn't honor anyone. 1541 01:30:57,201 --> 01:30:59,328 And it's taken me a long time to figure that out. 1542 01:31:03,916 --> 01:31:07,003 [music fades] 1543 01:31:07,086 --> 01:31:08,713 I've been thinking about... 1544 01:31:11,215 --> 01:31:14,093 our journey, our very long journey. 1545 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:15,803 [woman] Yeah. 1546 01:31:17,054 --> 01:31:19,348 And the ups and downs of it and the complications 1547 01:31:19,432 --> 01:31:20,808 and the joys of it 1548 01:31:20,892 --> 01:31:22,643 and the sadness and everything. 1549 01:31:23,394 --> 01:31:24,770 And, um... 1550 01:31:25,771 --> 01:31:29,567 I would say you've waited a long time for this day. 1551 01:31:29,650 --> 01:31:30,985 Yeah. 1552 01:31:31,819 --> 01:31:34,822 I remember when I found out that I had a sister. 1553 01:31:35,615 --> 01:31:39,285 I think it was junior high school. 1554 01:31:40,244 --> 01:31:42,079 We were a super open family, 1555 01:31:42,163 --> 01:31:46,584 but there was one locked drawer in his desk. 1556 01:31:46,667 --> 01:31:51,172 I mean, the truth is, you kind of always know 1557 01:31:51,255 --> 01:31:52,840 when there's a truth, 1558 01:31:52,924 --> 01:31:54,634 because anything that's not the truth 1559 01:31:54,759 --> 01:31:56,636 is what you're doing around it. 1560 01:31:56,761 --> 01:32:01,140 And so even when I was little I just knew... I don't know. 1561 01:32:01,265 --> 01:32:03,142 I mean, there was something. 1562 01:32:04,268 --> 01:32:08,105 So one day I get the lock open, 1563 01:32:08,189 --> 01:32:09,857 and I pull the drawer out 1564 01:32:10,650 --> 01:32:13,361 and I see one envelope in the back 1565 01:32:14,737 --> 01:32:16,739 and it was from your grandmother 1566 01:32:16,822 --> 01:32:19,033 right after your mom had died. 1567 01:32:19,116 --> 01:32:21,786 And it said, "Dear Nelson..." 1568 01:32:21,869 --> 01:32:23,996 I'm going to tell you what 11-year-old me thinks it said. 1569 01:32:24,121 --> 01:32:25,164 [Mariska] Yeah, yeah. 1570 01:32:25,289 --> 01:32:27,375 Uh, was basically, "Dear Nelson," 1571 01:32:27,458 --> 01:32:30,044 um, "I know you have children. 1572 01:32:31,295 --> 01:32:33,130 I'm sure they're fine, 1573 01:32:33,214 --> 01:32:37,426 but there's this amazing child who is yours. 1574 01:32:37,510 --> 01:32:40,972 She's better than your other children..." [laughs] 1575 01:32:41,681 --> 01:32:44,225 And that's what I mean by I know it doesn't say that 1576 01:32:44,308 --> 01:32:48,062 but I was reading and it said, "She is your family." 1577 01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:53,150 And so I storm into the kitchen with the letter 1578 01:32:53,234 --> 01:32:56,862 and I'm crying and I say, "What is this?" 1579 01:32:57,530 --> 01:33:00,533 And he gets really serious and he says, 1580 01:33:01,367 --> 01:33:03,411 "I don't know this little girl. 1581 01:33:03,494 --> 01:33:06,372 This little girl..." I'm gonna cry now. 1582 01:33:06,497 --> 01:33:08,916 He says, "This little girl has a father 1583 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:10,793 who loves her like I love you. 1584 01:33:10,876 --> 01:33:13,713 This little girl is safe." 1585 01:33:13,838 --> 01:33:17,174 "And if she is okay, she has just lost her mother, 1586 01:33:17,258 --> 01:33:20,303 you cannot take the only family she knows." 1587 01:33:20,386 --> 01:33:21,721 And that was their decision 1588 01:33:21,846 --> 01:33:23,306 and that's why they stayed quiet. 1589 01:33:24,432 --> 01:33:26,684 [Giovanna] And that made sense to me, 1590 01:33:26,767 --> 01:33:30,229 and so I kind of tucked that away. 1591 01:33:31,522 --> 01:33:34,191 And then, many years later, I met you. 1592 01:33:35,526 --> 01:33:38,154 And I remember, it was your birthday party, 1593 01:33:38,237 --> 01:33:39,739 Dad and I were there 1594 01:33:39,864 --> 01:33:42,658 and Katie Couric was there and she kept going, 1595 01:33:42,742 --> 01:33:45,202 "So you're related to Mariska how?" 1596 01:33:45,286 --> 01:33:47,538 and we would go, "No, we're family friends." 1597 01:33:47,622 --> 01:33:52,043 She'd walk around, come back, "I missed how you're related." 1598 01:33:52,126 --> 01:33:54,170 [laughter] 1599 01:33:54,253 --> 01:33:56,088 And I remember calling you, going, 1600 01:33:56,797 --> 01:33:58,799 - "So..." - "So we need to talk." 1601 01:33:58,883 --> 01:34:02,345 "How do we manage our worlds colliding? 1602 01:34:02,428 --> 01:34:04,472 And how do we manage that?" 1603 01:34:04,555 --> 01:34:07,224 But I... That's something that's so, um... 1604 01:34:08,059 --> 01:34:12,772 That's so hard, like, that I didn't have the, um... 1605 01:34:12,897 --> 01:34:14,357 wisdom, I guess, at the time, 1606 01:34:14,440 --> 01:34:18,110 to say, "This is not yours to carry." 1607 01:34:19,070 --> 01:34:20,738 My need was so big, 1608 01:34:20,821 --> 01:34:23,949 my need for this to honor Mickey was so huge. 1609 01:34:24,909 --> 01:34:28,079 But the fact is, I was wrong. 1610 01:34:28,162 --> 01:34:29,997 [tender, solemn music playing] 1611 01:34:30,081 --> 01:34:32,708 Because you guys had to live all these years 1612 01:34:32,792 --> 01:34:35,544 with the secret, and you were so generous, 1613 01:34:35,628 --> 01:34:37,296 so generous to me. 1614 01:34:38,964 --> 01:34:41,384 So... thank you. 1615 01:34:43,260 --> 01:34:45,638 [solemn music continues] 1616 01:34:56,482 --> 01:34:58,109 [Pietra] I have a question. 1617 01:34:59,151 --> 01:35:02,655 How do you feel about the fact 1618 01:35:02,780 --> 01:35:05,449 that we're coming clean with the whole story? 1619 01:35:06,325 --> 01:35:07,785 Like, this is going to... 1620 01:35:07,868 --> 01:35:09,995 Now it's out there. There's no more secrets. 1621 01:35:11,288 --> 01:35:13,499 All this that is happening now, 1622 01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:16,836 all this, to me, is like as if... 1623 01:35:18,170 --> 01:35:21,090 a stronger and higher power 1624 01:35:21,173 --> 01:35:23,759 is forgiving me 1625 01:35:23,843 --> 01:35:25,428 for whatever mistakes I made. 1626 01:35:25,511 --> 01:35:27,596 - [Mariska] Hmm. - [exhales sharply] 1627 01:35:28,639 --> 01:35:30,391 There's nothing I can change, 1628 01:35:31,308 --> 01:35:35,271 but I regret having extricated myself 1629 01:35:35,354 --> 01:35:37,022 from your mother's life. 1630 01:35:37,690 --> 01:35:40,234 Because I think 1631 01:35:40,317 --> 01:35:43,154 certain things would not have happened to her. 1632 01:35:44,071 --> 01:35:46,282 Yeah. Yeah. 1633 01:35:48,242 --> 01:35:50,369 But, you know, one more thing I have to say. 1634 01:35:50,995 --> 01:35:54,290 I would love to have had one more conversation 1635 01:35:54,373 --> 01:35:56,375 with your father before he passed away, 1636 01:35:57,001 --> 01:36:00,463 because I also would like to apologize to him. 1637 01:36:02,381 --> 01:36:04,341 Because I'm sure 1638 01:36:04,925 --> 01:36:09,889 I was also part of his suffering. 1639 01:36:10,014 --> 01:36:11,474 Thank you for saying that. 1640 01:36:11,557 --> 01:36:14,059 Well, it's-it's... I'm-I'm... 1641 01:36:15,352 --> 01:36:17,980 I'm so happy that I have the chance to... 1642 01:36:18,063 --> 01:36:20,566 have been given a chance to say those things. 1643 01:36:22,276 --> 01:36:25,279 Well, you're 89, so you'll get to tell him soon enough. 1644 01:36:25,362 --> 01:36:28,199 [laughter] 1645 01:36:28,282 --> 01:36:31,368 [spluttering] What is-- What is my obituary? 1646 01:36:31,494 --> 01:36:32,620 [Mariska] You are the greatest! 1647 01:36:32,703 --> 01:36:34,789 [laughter continues] 1648 01:36:34,872 --> 01:36:36,373 In person! 1649 01:36:36,457 --> 01:36:38,459 - Yep! - Oh, of course! 1650 01:36:38,542 --> 01:36:39,794 Of course. 1651 01:36:39,877 --> 01:36:41,796 - No, because-- - Oh my God! 1652 01:36:41,879 --> 01:36:45,257 Oh my God. Oh my God. You're so much! 1653 01:36:45,382 --> 01:36:47,051 Okay. Oh yeah. 1654 01:36:51,388 --> 01:36:52,973 Alright, babe. 1655 01:36:53,057 --> 01:36:54,850 - [clears throat] - I'll call you tomorrow. 1656 01:36:54,934 --> 01:36:56,393 - Got it. - Okay. 1657 01:36:56,477 --> 01:36:59,563 [gentle, pensive instrumentals playing] 1658 01:37:06,570 --> 01:37:09,532 [Mariska] What I keep thinking about is... 1659 01:37:10,157 --> 01:37:11,408 we lost our mother, 1660 01:37:12,910 --> 01:37:14,370 but... 1661 01:37:15,246 --> 01:37:16,956 by making this movie, 1662 01:37:17,832 --> 01:37:19,750 we're breathing new life. 1663 01:37:20,751 --> 01:37:26,090 And so she feels so alive now to me in such a beautiful way. 1664 01:37:26,841 --> 01:37:29,760 Yeah. I was actually asking Alexa, 1665 01:37:29,844 --> 01:37:34,306 I was going, saying, "Alexa, does a soul ever die?" 1666 01:37:35,349 --> 01:37:37,560 And Alexa-- Want to hear it? 1667 01:37:37,643 --> 01:37:39,228 - Watch. - Like Alexa Alexa? 1668 01:37:39,311 --> 01:37:41,897 Yeah. Alexa, does a soul ever die? 1669 01:37:41,981 --> 01:37:44,108 [Alexa] From reginameredith.com. 1670 01:37:44,191 --> 01:37:45,401 The soul does not die. 1671 01:37:45,484 --> 01:37:47,444 - It returns to the universe. - Yeah. 1672 01:37:47,528 --> 01:37:49,196 It returns to the universe. 1673 01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,323 The soul never dies. 1674 01:37:55,119 --> 01:37:56,871 [Mariska] So I made something for you 1675 01:37:56,954 --> 01:37:59,915 from some of the things in the storage unit. 1676 01:37:59,999 --> 01:38:01,667 And I wanted to give it to you. 1677 01:38:03,335 --> 01:38:06,213 You put this together like this? Aw... 1678 01:38:06,797 --> 01:38:08,090 Is that me? 1679 01:38:08,173 --> 01:38:10,259 [Mariska] This whole book is you. 1680 01:38:10,342 --> 01:38:12,011 [Jayne Marie] Oh my God. 1681 01:38:12,136 --> 01:38:13,178 Wow. 1682 01:38:14,221 --> 01:38:16,765 I look like the Grey Gardens lady. 1683 01:38:16,849 --> 01:38:19,018 - [Mariska] Yeah! - [Jayne Marie laughs] 1684 01:38:21,312 --> 01:38:23,147 - You know who I mean? - Yes. 1685 01:38:23,230 --> 01:38:26,108 I also found some cards that you wrote to Mom. 1686 01:38:26,817 --> 01:38:28,652 [Jayne Marie] "To the most wonderful mommy 1687 01:38:28,736 --> 01:38:29,987 in the whole world. 1688 01:38:30,112 --> 01:38:32,698 Your loving child, Jayne Marie." 1689 01:38:32,823 --> 01:38:36,702 God, who thought this existed all these decades? 1690 01:38:38,037 --> 01:38:39,914 [Mariska] Let me read this one to you. 1691 01:38:40,915 --> 01:38:44,627 "Dear Mommy, I love you in the daytime 1692 01:38:44,710 --> 01:38:47,212 and I love you in the night, 1693 01:38:47,338 --> 01:38:51,550 but what am I gonna do when you get out of my sight? 1694 01:38:52,176 --> 01:38:55,137 I love you in the a.m. and p.m. too. 1695 01:38:55,220 --> 01:38:58,515 And if you're where I think you are... 1696 01:38:58,599 --> 01:39:01,310 [laughs softly] 1697 01:39:01,393 --> 01:39:05,272 ...I hope not out with that old Jack Paar." 1698 01:39:05,356 --> 01:39:07,650 - I-- You're kidding me! - [Mariska laughs] 1699 01:39:07,733 --> 01:39:08,859 You're kidding me! 1700 01:39:08,943 --> 01:39:10,611 [both] "I hope you're not out 1701 01:39:10,694 --> 01:39:12,696 with that old Jack Paar." 1702 01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:14,031 [Jayne Marie laughs] 1703 01:39:14,114 --> 01:39:15,866 [Mariska] Okay, this is some of your best work. 1704 01:39:15,950 --> 01:39:18,369 [tender, gentle instrumentals playing] 1705 01:39:26,043 --> 01:39:28,087 [Mariska] I'm so happy that you guys are here today 1706 01:39:28,212 --> 01:39:30,297 because I hated doing it without you. 1707 01:39:30,881 --> 01:39:33,217 - [Jayne Marie] These boxes? - [Zoltan] Oh my goodness. 1708 01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:35,219 - [Mariska] Okay. Hold on. - [Zoltan] Here. 1709 01:39:35,302 --> 01:39:36,845 [Mariska] Oh... 1710 01:39:38,389 --> 01:39:40,432 [Jayne Marie] Oh my God. It's the press books. 1711 01:39:43,519 --> 01:39:45,729 [Mariska] "Making like Marilyn." 1712 01:39:45,813 --> 01:39:46,897 Wow. 1713 01:39:48,399 --> 01:39:49,942 [Zoltan] Sliding... 1714 01:39:51,568 --> 01:39:53,445 - Oh my goodness. - [Mickey Jr.] Look at that. 1715 01:39:53,570 --> 01:39:55,280 So sweet. Oh. 1716 01:39:56,115 --> 01:39:58,742 Look. Santa Claus is freaking me out over here. 1717 01:39:58,826 --> 01:40:00,703 [laughter] 1718 01:40:00,786 --> 01:40:02,997 - That is so creepy. - Creepy Santa Claus. 1719 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,499 [Jayne Marie] Every kid hates Santa Claus at that age. 1720 01:40:05,582 --> 01:40:06,917 [Zoltan] What's that on your leg? 1721 01:40:07,001 --> 01:40:08,669 - [Jayne Marie] Some blanket. - [Zoltan] On your leg? 1722 01:40:08,752 --> 01:40:11,255 [Jayne Marie screams] Oh, you shit... 1723 01:40:11,338 --> 01:40:13,966 [Zoltan] Mickey wanted me to do that. 1724 01:40:14,091 --> 01:40:15,759 He found it in the box. 1725 01:40:15,843 --> 01:40:17,428 - We got her. - It's just like old times. 1726 01:40:17,511 --> 01:40:19,346 - And he's got it on camera. - You guys... 1727 01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:22,808 Back to being my little bros. 1728 01:40:22,933 --> 01:40:25,394 Oh, come, come, come. 1729 01:40:25,936 --> 01:40:27,271 Oh my God. 1730 01:40:27,396 --> 01:40:29,690 - This is a Golden Globe. - [Jayne Marie] It is? 1731 01:40:29,773 --> 01:40:31,692 [Mariska] Hollywood Foreign Press Association. 1732 01:40:31,775 --> 01:40:33,527 Look. Hold it, guys. 1733 01:40:34,945 --> 01:40:36,447 [Jayne Marie] "Jayne Mansfield. 1734 01:40:36,530 --> 01:40:38,574 International Stardom Award. 1735 01:40:38,657 --> 01:40:41,201 - 20th Century Fox." - [Mariska] Significant. 1736 01:40:41,285 --> 01:40:43,495 You know what? You could put this with yours. 1737 01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:46,248 - Yeah. - If you let me, I'd love to. 1738 01:40:46,331 --> 01:40:48,959 - You earned it. [laughs] - [Mickey Jr.] Mm-hmm. 1739 01:40:49,043 --> 01:40:51,462 - [Mickey Jr. chuckles] - You made it. 1740 01:40:53,088 --> 01:40:57,259 [bright, hopeful music playing] 1741 01:40:57,342 --> 01:41:01,722 [metallic rattling, squeaking] 1742 01:41:23,035 --> 01:41:24,453 [quietly] Oh my God... 1743 01:41:25,496 --> 01:41:27,164 Do we own it? 1744 01:41:28,207 --> 01:41:30,084 Yeah. Happy birthday. 1745 01:41:34,755 --> 01:41:35,881 [Mariska] Thank you. 1746 01:41:38,342 --> 01:41:40,552 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 1747 01:41:45,432 --> 01:41:48,519 [bright music continues] 1748 01:42:09,915 --> 01:42:12,334 [music softens] 1749 01:42:12,417 --> 01:42:13,961 [Mariska] I've spent most of my life 1750 01:42:14,044 --> 01:42:15,879 feeling ashamed of my mother. 1751 01:42:17,464 --> 01:42:20,217 A person that I had no memory of. 1752 01:42:21,385 --> 01:42:24,638 A person whose voice I didn't want to hear. 1753 01:42:26,098 --> 01:42:30,519 A person whose career made me want to do it differently. 1754 01:42:33,063 --> 01:42:37,109 A person who made her share of problematic choices 1755 01:42:38,068 --> 01:42:42,197 and left me with loss and secrets. 1756 01:42:44,241 --> 01:42:48,662 But at 60 years old, I feel different. 1757 01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:54,126 I see myself in you for the first time. 1758 01:42:55,794 --> 01:42:57,379 The way you smile. 1759 01:42:58,755 --> 01:43:00,507 The way you laugh. 1760 01:43:02,926 --> 01:43:08,515 I also have such maternal feelings for you now. 1761 01:43:08,599 --> 01:43:11,935 You were 16 years old when you got pregnant. 1762 01:43:12,603 --> 01:43:15,898 You were a baby when you started this career. 1763 01:43:17,649 --> 01:43:18,984 I so get it. 1764 01:43:19,985 --> 01:43:23,614 I get how hurt you must have been. 1765 01:43:23,697 --> 01:43:27,159 Looking for something that you never found. 1766 01:43:27,284 --> 01:43:29,244 You in some sort of trouble? 1767 01:43:30,537 --> 01:43:33,582 [Mariska] But you had so much inside of you. 1768 01:43:34,166 --> 01:43:35,500 I'll beat it before she shows. 1769 01:43:35,626 --> 01:43:37,878 [Mariska] And that's who I see now. 1770 01:43:39,463 --> 01:43:42,257 I see you, Jayne. 1771 01:43:43,842 --> 01:43:46,428 My mom Jayne. 1772 01:43:48,472 --> 01:43:49,598 I love you. 1773 01:43:52,142 --> 01:43:53,560 And I miss you. 1774 01:43:54,811 --> 01:43:58,482 [tender, dramatic instrumentals playing] 1775 01:43:58,565 --> 01:44:03,779 [music ends abruptly, fades] 1776 01:44:03,862 --> 01:44:07,991 ["Just Plain Jayne" by Jayne Mansfield playing] 1777 01:44:08,116 --> 01:44:11,828 ♪ Our president said and I agree ♪ 1778 01:44:11,912 --> 01:44:15,207 ♪ That we must balance our economy ♪ 1779 01:44:15,332 --> 01:44:18,835 ♪ There are problems that we all must face ♪ 1780 01:44:18,961 --> 01:44:22,673 ♪ And luxuries are out of place ♪ 1781 01:44:23,465 --> 01:44:26,635 ♪ JFK, you're right ♪ 1782 01:44:26,718 --> 01:44:30,389 ♪ I'm joining in the fight ♪ 1783 01:44:31,181 --> 01:44:34,351 ♪ I don't want expensive treasures ♪ 1784 01:44:34,476 --> 01:44:37,521 ♪ I prefer the simple pleasures ♪ 1785 01:44:37,646 --> 01:44:41,525 ♪ Like a Longfellow poem A Cadillac vroom ♪ 1786 01:44:41,608 --> 01:44:44,361 ♪ A villa in Rome or in Spain ♪ 1787 01:44:44,486 --> 01:44:45,862 ♪ I'm just ♪ 1788 01:44:47,823 --> 01:44:49,408 ♪ Plain Jayne ♪ 1789 01:44:49,533 --> 01:44:51,868 [man] Oh, Jaynie, you're just too marvelous! 1790 01:44:51,994 --> 01:44:55,497 ♪ I'm not rich I have a few chips ♪ 1791 01:44:55,580 --> 01:44:58,875 ♪ All my stocks are strictly blue chips ♪ 1792 01:44:59,001 --> 01:45:02,379 ♪ Like AT&T and General E ♪ 1793 01:45:02,504 --> 01:45:05,382 ♪ I bought me the A&P chain ♪ 1794 01:45:05,507 --> 01:45:09,386 ♪ My kids play catch with diamond rocks ♪ 1795 01:45:09,511 --> 01:45:12,889 ♪ And I hold the mortgage on Fort Knox ♪ 1796 01:45:13,015 --> 01:45:15,892 ♪ In gold I trust because I'm just ♪ 1797 01:45:16,018 --> 01:45:21,857 ♪ Plain, plain Jayne ♪ 1798 01:45:21,940 --> 01:45:25,861 [man] Oh, Jaynie, I'm simply exhausted! 1799 01:45:25,944 --> 01:45:29,906 [applause]