1 00:00:21,010 --> 00:00:23,110 [birds twittering] 2 00:00:23,210 --> 00:00:25,370 [kookaburra laughing] 3 00:00:28,370 --> 00:00:29,990 [birdsong] 4 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:31,830 [gentle music] 5 00:00:31,930 --> 00:00:34,890 [kookaburras laughing] 6 00:00:54,491 --> 00:00:56,491 [engine starts up] 7 00:00:57,931 --> 00:01:02,011 [Delvene Delaney] Love is made of many magical memories. 8 00:01:02,971 --> 00:01:07,011 [kookaburra laughing] 9 00:01:07,691 --> 00:01:11,831 For 46 years, I made magical memories with John, 10 00:01:11,931 --> 00:01:14,431 the love of my life, 11 00:01:14,531 --> 00:01:17,412 on this beautiful land. 12 00:01:21,972 --> 00:01:23,712 When we lose a loved one, 13 00:01:23,812 --> 00:01:26,412 we're left with a heart full of memories. 14 00:01:28,332 --> 00:01:30,652 We pack those memories into boxes... 15 00:01:35,212 --> 00:01:38,152 ..but sometimes we choose to reopen them 16 00:01:38,252 --> 00:01:41,792 because you never know what you might find. 17 00:01:41,892 --> 00:01:43,472 [film reel whirring] 18 00:01:43,572 --> 00:01:45,352 [upbeat rock music] 19 00:01:45,452 --> 00:01:47,732 - [indistinct chatter on set] - [crew member] And action! 20 00:01:50,492 --> 00:01:53,532 [Delvene] It was just an infectiously good time. 21 00:01:55,853 --> 00:01:59,213 We cared for each other and we had each other's backs. 22 00:02:00,933 --> 00:02:03,333 The chemistry was palpable. 23 00:02:04,293 --> 00:02:06,733 There was so much love on set. 24 00:02:11,933 --> 00:02:13,593 For nearly 60 years, 25 00:02:13,693 --> 00:02:16,433 John and Paul were business partners, 26 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:19,033 creative collaborators 27 00:02:19,133 --> 00:02:22,513 and the very best of mates. 28 00:02:22,613 --> 00:02:25,433 Two great Aussie blokes. 29 00:02:25,533 --> 00:02:29,313 And at their peak, they made an iconic movie. 30 00:02:29,413 --> 00:02:31,653 Michael J 'Crocodile' Dundee. 31 00:02:43,254 --> 00:02:44,874 Two beers, Ide. 32 00:02:44,974 --> 00:02:47,274 One for me and one for me mate. 33 00:02:47,374 --> 00:02:49,274 [Delvene] Crocodile Dundee helped define 34 00:02:49,374 --> 00:02:53,514 Australia's friendly identity on a global scale, 35 00:02:53,614 --> 00:02:56,114 and it's still loved by millions. 36 00:02:56,214 --> 00:02:58,154 [Walter] I'm sorry if that frightened you, Miss. 37 00:02:58,254 --> 00:03:00,694 Uh, you see, it's stuffed. 38 00:03:02,094 --> 00:03:04,094 Him and me both, Wal. 39 00:03:05,174 --> 00:03:07,174 [rhythmic film score plays] 40 00:03:12,054 --> 00:03:16,255 [Delvene] But, recently, we nearly lost it forever. 41 00:03:17,095 --> 00:03:19,795 The original negative was badly damaged. 42 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:21,475 [tense music] 43 00:03:21,575 --> 00:03:24,695 To save the film, we had to restore it. 44 00:03:27,655 --> 00:03:30,715 Victoria and I had to find all the elements 45 00:03:30,815 --> 00:03:32,815 for the restoration process. 46 00:03:33,255 --> 00:03:35,355 And in doing that, 47 00:03:35,455 --> 00:03:39,655 opening John's boxes took on a much bigger purpose. 48 00:03:40,855 --> 00:03:44,995 More than 200,000 individual frames 49 00:03:45,095 --> 00:03:48,655 and millions of tiny flickers were delicately restored. 50 00:03:49,815 --> 00:03:52,216 The result is stunning. 51 00:03:53,096 --> 00:03:55,736 [soft, wondrous music] 52 00:03:59,496 --> 00:04:02,756 In John's boxes was a treasure trove. 53 00:04:02,856 --> 00:04:05,876 Not only were there memories of our two successful hotels 54 00:04:05,976 --> 00:04:08,596 and some very funny television shows, 55 00:04:08,696 --> 00:04:10,396 but there was the business side of the film 56 00:04:10,496 --> 00:04:12,716 that someone had to attend to. 57 00:04:12,816 --> 00:04:14,476 And that someone became me. 58 00:04:14,576 --> 00:04:16,192 Okay. Do you want to see what's in this with me? 59 00:04:16,216 --> 00:04:18,216 [Victoria] Yeah, I do. 60 00:04:19,296 --> 00:04:20,916 [Delvene] Together with Victoria, 61 00:04:21,016 --> 00:04:23,976 we found all sorts of incredible things. 62 00:04:26,096 --> 00:04:28,096 Rusty, old reels... 63 00:04:29,656 --> 00:04:31,317 ..storyboards, 64 00:04:31,417 --> 00:04:33,537 scribbled-on scripts... 65 00:04:34,897 --> 00:04:37,557 ..transparencies 66 00:04:37,657 --> 00:04:39,597 and so many photographs. 67 00:04:39,697 --> 00:04:41,697 Oh! 68 00:04:42,017 --> 00:04:43,317 Aw, mates. 69 00:04:43,417 --> 00:04:46,357 [Delvene] This legacy was worth preserving, 70 00:04:46,457 --> 00:04:49,357 not only for my husband, John, 71 00:04:49,457 --> 00:04:52,077 but it's my legacy too, 72 00:04:52,177 --> 00:04:55,537 to show our grandchildren what their grandmum got up to... 73 00:04:56,777 --> 00:04:58,777 ..and their granddad. 74 00:05:00,337 --> 00:05:02,337 Ahh! 75 00:05:02,777 --> 00:05:04,517 [Delvene] John's precious archive 76 00:05:04,617 --> 00:05:06,357 reminded me of all the magical moments 77 00:05:06,457 --> 00:05:08,457 making Crocodile Dundee. 78 00:05:09,578 --> 00:05:11,438 The fun on set... 79 00:05:11,538 --> 00:05:13,638 [tap-dances] 80 00:05:13,738 --> 00:05:15,118 [imitates animal call] 81 00:05:15,218 --> 00:05:17,278 - [indistinct chatter on set] - [laughs] 82 00:05:17,378 --> 00:05:19,638 [Delvene] ..working with an excellent crew, 83 00:05:19,738 --> 00:05:21,738 the best in the business. 84 00:05:22,978 --> 00:05:25,878 I wondered why Croc was so successful, 85 00:05:25,978 --> 00:05:28,918 why it became such an iconic film. 86 00:05:29,018 --> 00:05:32,658 And why do so many people still love it so much? 87 00:05:34,578 --> 00:05:36,198 I wanted to go back 88 00:05:36,298 --> 00:05:38,478 to see to where it all began with John and Paul, 89 00:05:38,578 --> 00:05:41,998 to see where those first sparks of magic happened. 90 00:05:42,098 --> 00:05:44,898 I couldn't wait to see my old mate Paul. 91 00:05:45,778 --> 00:05:48,799 [Delvene] So I just... I'm using the old mother's spits. 92 00:05:48,899 --> 00:05:50,479 Oh, it's just spit and lick, is it? 93 00:05:50,579 --> 00:05:52,479 And I've just had a vanilla slice. 94 00:05:52,579 --> 00:05:53,759 [both laugh] 95 00:05:53,859 --> 00:05:55,639 - [ironically] Oh, good. - It's really sticky! 96 00:05:55,739 --> 00:05:58,519 I'll have ants crawling round my head. Jesus, Delly. 97 00:05:58,619 --> 00:06:00,439 You won't have any bits sticking up, though. 98 00:06:00,539 --> 00:06:01,559 [both chuckle] 99 00:06:01,659 --> 00:06:02,839 Doesn't matter. 100 00:06:02,939 --> 00:06:06,579 [funky music] 101 00:06:10,259 --> 00:06:12,479 [Paul Hogan] I was a rigger on the Harbour Bridge 102 00:06:12,579 --> 00:06:15,599 and fortunately John Cornell came along at the right moment. 103 00:06:15,699 --> 00:06:18,319 He was, like, the London editor of WA Newspapers 104 00:06:18,419 --> 00:06:20,239 at, like, 22 or something, 105 00:06:20,339 --> 00:06:25,680 and so he was far more worldly than I could imagine. 106 00:06:25,780 --> 00:06:28,240 But we just hit it off. 107 00:06:28,340 --> 00:06:31,180 He was a bit of a larrikin too. Changed my life. 108 00:06:33,140 --> 00:06:35,560 [John Cornell] I was producing A Current Affair's program, 109 00:06:35,660 --> 00:06:37,960 the top current affairs program down there, 110 00:06:38,060 --> 00:06:42,200 and I, in fact, had an idea that we needed 111 00:06:42,300 --> 00:06:44,040 sort of a verbal cartoonist 112 00:06:44,140 --> 00:06:45,760 in this current affairs program, 113 00:06:45,860 --> 00:06:47,840 the equivalent of a newspaper cartoonist, 114 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:49,480 just to lighten it up a bit, 115 00:06:49,580 --> 00:06:52,000 because news is usually bad news. 116 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:58,000 And... one of our reporters saw him on this talent quest. 117 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:00,320 [voiceover] It's Australia's New Faces. 118 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:02,880 [Paul] I went on New Faces. 119 00:07:02,980 --> 00:07:04,601 [voiceover] ..in Sydney, Terry Dear! 120 00:07:04,701 --> 00:07:08,241 I went on on a dare as a tap-dancing knife thrower 121 00:07:08,341 --> 00:07:10,001 to take the mickey out of it, 122 00:07:10,101 --> 00:07:12,401 and the switchboard lit up. 123 00:07:12,501 --> 00:07:14,601 You know, and they said it burst into flames. 124 00:07:14,701 --> 00:07:17,201 And so we tried him out as this verbal cartoonist 125 00:07:17,301 --> 00:07:19,241 and he just... that was it, you know? 126 00:07:19,341 --> 00:07:22,121 He just became an instant overnight success. 127 00:07:22,221 --> 00:07:24,241 Hey, love. What do you think of daylight saving? 128 00:07:24,341 --> 00:07:26,637 [mimics woman] Daylight saving? Oh, I think it's marvellous. 129 00:07:26,661 --> 00:07:28,717 I have three kiddies and my family use it all the time. 130 00:07:28,741 --> 00:07:31,201 So I still worked on the bridge, 131 00:07:31,301 --> 00:07:33,281 then swing by Channel Nine, 132 00:07:33,381 --> 00:07:35,401 walk into the backyard in front of a camera, 133 00:07:35,501 --> 00:07:38,801 do two minutes, give me some money, off I'd go. 134 00:07:38,901 --> 00:07:40,877 Here's a caper for getting into the races. Now watch this. 135 00:07:40,901 --> 00:07:42,878 Here's the gateman guarding the gate where you get out. 136 00:07:42,902 --> 00:07:44,722 See? Now always walk backwards. 137 00:07:44,822 --> 00:07:46,758 And they're never too sure which way you're going then. 138 00:07:46,782 --> 00:07:48,782 Sidling along like this, mate. 139 00:07:50,782 --> 00:07:52,602 Oh, excuse me, mate. Just coming out. 140 00:07:52,702 --> 00:07:54,842 Yeah, done all me dough in the first race. 141 00:07:54,942 --> 00:07:56,522 You know? Might as well go home. 142 00:07:56,622 --> 00:07:58,362 Hello? Another quid here. 143 00:07:58,462 --> 00:08:00,982 I might as well go back inside and see if I can invest that. 144 00:08:03,062 --> 00:08:04,762 That's the way age beats inflation. 145 00:08:04,862 --> 00:08:06,482 John was smart enough to realise 146 00:08:06,582 --> 00:08:08,638 there seemed to be a lot more people watching on a Friday 147 00:08:08,662 --> 00:08:11,882 when Paul did his piece on a weekly basis 148 00:08:11,982 --> 00:08:14,042 than were watching at the start of the show. 149 00:08:14,142 --> 00:08:15,842 So it was clear to him 150 00:08:15,942 --> 00:08:17,922 that Australians were liking and loving him. 151 00:08:18,022 --> 00:08:19,602 And that was a very big show. 152 00:08:19,702 --> 00:08:21,559 The back of the Nine News and A Current Affair - 153 00:08:21,583 --> 00:08:23,763 would've been getting a couple of million viewers. 154 00:08:23,863 --> 00:08:27,243 - Hello, Mrs Universe. - Hello, Paul. Miss Universe. 155 00:08:27,343 --> 00:08:29,283 [Paul] I was doing one of me two-minute spots 156 00:08:29,383 --> 00:08:30,683 on A Current Affair 157 00:08:30,783 --> 00:08:32,643 and I said, "I know what I want to talk about. 158 00:08:32,743 --> 00:08:34,783 "I need a mate that's a bit dopier than me, though." 159 00:08:34,823 --> 00:08:37,523 And John used to do a bad impression 160 00:08:37,623 --> 00:08:39,603 of Marlon Brando in The Godfather, 161 00:08:39,703 --> 00:08:42,043 and it really sort of made me laugh. 162 00:08:42,143 --> 00:08:45,243 Thus, Strop was born. He became my dopey offsider. 163 00:08:45,343 --> 00:08:47,323 [whimsical music plays] ♪ My love is ♪ 164 00:08:47,423 --> 00:08:51,003 ♪ Mmm, mmm Taller than the tallest tree ♪ 165 00:08:51,103 --> 00:08:54,163 ♪ Mmm, mmm Deeper than the deep blue sea ♪ 166 00:08:54,263 --> 00:08:55,783 [Paul] It's funny, 'cause he played it. 167 00:08:55,863 --> 00:08:57,443 That's what's so unusual about him. 168 00:08:57,543 --> 00:08:59,483 He was a good-looking guy and very smart, 169 00:08:59,583 --> 00:09:01,844 but he was quite happy to play this dopey, 170 00:09:01,944 --> 00:09:05,644 distorted-faced virgin on television, you know. 171 00:09:05,744 --> 00:09:07,884 So there was no vanity involved whatsoever, 172 00:09:07,984 --> 00:09:10,124 In here, cobber. It's me old mate Strop. 173 00:09:10,224 --> 00:09:12,444 G'day, mate. Singers, eh? 174 00:09:12,544 --> 00:09:14,964 Hello, viewers, me and Hoges abroad overseas. 175 00:09:15,064 --> 00:09:16,244 Good stuff, eh? 176 00:09:16,344 --> 00:09:18,084 This is the happiest moment of my life. 177 00:09:18,184 --> 00:09:19,884 He was the brains of the outfit. 178 00:09:19,984 --> 00:09:21,924 Right from the start, John said, you know, 179 00:09:22,024 --> 00:09:24,024 "We're going into show business. 180 00:09:25,944 --> 00:09:28,164 "You do the show, I'll do the business. 181 00:09:28,264 --> 00:09:31,324 "All those crazy thoughts you have, put 'em down on paper." 182 00:09:31,424 --> 00:09:33,424 And, well... he was right. 183 00:09:34,544 --> 00:09:36,564 They didn't know what else to do with me. 184 00:09:36,664 --> 00:09:38,885 They were mumbling about, "Oh, maybe have a quiz show 185 00:09:38,985 --> 00:09:41,085 "and have him as the compere or something?" 186 00:09:41,185 --> 00:09:44,125 But then John said, "No, you've got to have your own show." 187 00:09:44,225 --> 00:09:46,165 [crew member] R30-25, The Paul Hogan Special, 188 00:09:46,265 --> 00:09:48,265 replay to be advised. 189 00:09:48,705 --> 00:09:51,125 [soaring orchestral theme music plays] 190 00:09:51,225 --> 00:09:53,225 [audience cheering and whistling] 191 00:09:54,985 --> 00:09:57,105 [cheering, whistling continue] 192 00:10:02,785 --> 00:10:04,365 [cheering, whistling cease] 193 00:10:04,465 --> 00:10:06,285 - [music ends] - G'day. 194 00:10:06,385 --> 00:10:07,885 If you're wondering why I'm dolled up 195 00:10:07,985 --> 00:10:09,645 like a sore toe tonight 196 00:10:09,745 --> 00:10:11,245 instead of wearing me usual gear, 197 00:10:11,345 --> 00:10:13,085 it's because the control board 198 00:10:13,185 --> 00:10:15,405 has banned me usual gear from the show. 199 00:10:15,505 --> 00:10:17,322 You see, they come to rehearsal and they found out 200 00:10:17,346 --> 00:10:18,926 that when I sit on a stool like this, 201 00:10:19,026 --> 00:10:21,002 the people in the first three rows of the studio audience 202 00:10:21,026 --> 00:10:23,042 and anyone at home laying on the floor could see straight up 203 00:10:23,066 --> 00:10:25,086 - the leg of me shorts. - [laughter] 204 00:10:25,186 --> 00:10:27,166 I'd been working in television for about 20 years 205 00:10:27,266 --> 00:10:29,806 before I met them - 206 00:10:29,906 --> 00:10:32,846 you know, right from moving scenery around 207 00:10:32,946 --> 00:10:35,006 to doing a lot of very major specials 208 00:10:35,106 --> 00:10:37,046 in Tonight Shows, et cetera. 209 00:10:37,146 --> 00:10:39,206 Well, one day when I was at work 210 00:10:39,306 --> 00:10:41,206 at Channel Nine in Melbourne, 211 00:10:41,306 --> 00:10:44,286 I got a telephone call from Kerry Packer, 212 00:10:44,386 --> 00:10:45,946 and he said, "Do you know John Cornell?" 213 00:10:45,986 --> 00:10:47,606 I said, "No, I don't." 214 00:10:47,706 --> 00:10:50,886 He said, "Well, they want to work with you." 215 00:10:50,986 --> 00:10:52,526 And as a result of that, 216 00:10:52,626 --> 00:10:55,246 that was when they moved from Channel Seven to Channel Nine, 217 00:10:55,346 --> 00:10:58,967 so, you know, it was on for anything, really. 218 00:10:59,067 --> 00:11:00,167 Good evening, viewers. 219 00:11:00,267 --> 00:11:01,603 - Good evening, viewers. - Good evening, viewers. 220 00:11:01,627 --> 00:11:03,627 [drum roll] 221 00:11:06,107 --> 00:11:08,927 [intro theme music plays] 222 00:11:09,027 --> 00:11:11,527 [audience cheer and applaud] 223 00:11:11,627 --> 00:11:13,807 [soaring orchestral theme music plays] 224 00:11:13,907 --> 00:11:15,887 [voiceover] Stuntman extraordinaire Leo Wanker 225 00:11:15,987 --> 00:11:18,807 risks his life as he takes on the wall of death. 226 00:11:18,907 --> 00:11:21,687 The Wanker family have been involved in stunt work now 227 00:11:21,787 --> 00:11:23,367 for five generations, 228 00:11:23,467 --> 00:11:25,887 and it is my hope that one day people will say, 229 00:11:25,987 --> 00:11:28,127 "There goes Leo, the greatest Wanker of all." 230 00:11:28,227 --> 00:11:30,227 [audience laughter] 231 00:11:30,587 --> 00:11:34,307 [audience cheer and applaud] 232 00:11:35,468 --> 00:11:39,528 No one drove it mainstream and blew it up like Paul blew it up 233 00:11:39,628 --> 00:11:41,808 and The Paul Hogan Show blew it up. 234 00:11:41,908 --> 00:11:44,188 - You want a bit of toast, son? - [man] Thanks, mate. 235 00:11:46,908 --> 00:11:48,908 [audience tittering] 236 00:11:51,508 --> 00:11:54,308 [audience roaring with laughter] 237 00:11:58,468 --> 00:12:00,248 [David Gyngell] The Paul Hogan Show was 238 00:12:00,348 --> 00:12:02,288 such must-watch television. 239 00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:05,048 And the data tells you it's must-watched. 240 00:12:05,148 --> 00:12:06,928 There's probably never been anything 241 00:12:07,028 --> 00:12:09,528 so large across the spectrum 242 00:12:09,628 --> 00:12:14,769 that ticked every box of humour, fun, larrikinism. 243 00:12:14,869 --> 00:12:16,289 Australia. 244 00:12:16,389 --> 00:12:19,489 Welcome to the show that tells it like it isn't. 245 00:12:19,589 --> 00:12:21,009 [audience chuckling] 246 00:12:21,109 --> 00:12:22,569 But it ought to be. 247 00:12:22,669 --> 00:12:24,409 [Peter Faiman] I loved Paul's stand-ups. 248 00:12:24,509 --> 00:12:26,689 He always did an intro to the show - 249 00:12:26,789 --> 00:12:28,529 about three or four minutes - 250 00:12:28,629 --> 00:12:33,849 and he really wrapped up complex ideas 251 00:12:33,949 --> 00:12:36,249 that were topical at the time 252 00:12:36,349 --> 00:12:38,089 into very simple language. 253 00:12:38,189 --> 00:12:40,409 Evening, viewers. [clears throat] 254 00:12:40,509 --> 00:12:44,169 We are on the threshold of a new era in television. 255 00:12:44,269 --> 00:12:46,449 Violence, sex and dirty stuff 256 00:12:46,549 --> 00:12:48,929 is under censorship attack in America. 257 00:12:49,029 --> 00:12:55,570 He had an ability to really distil current issues 258 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:57,530 into something that was very, very funny. 259 00:12:57,630 --> 00:13:00,010 Television will be so sterile 260 00:13:00,110 --> 00:13:03,050 you'll be able to heal wounds, just stand in front of it. 261 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:04,790 [Peter] He and I used to have a lot of fun 262 00:13:04,870 --> 00:13:06,530 with him staying in character. 263 00:13:06,630 --> 00:13:09,210 So once he was dressed and came dressed, 264 00:13:09,310 --> 00:13:11,250 I couldn't refer to him as anything else. 265 00:13:11,350 --> 00:13:13,350 And that was part of the fun that he and I had. 266 00:13:16,070 --> 00:13:18,070 [audience tittering] 267 00:13:20,230 --> 00:13:22,230 [audience laughing] 268 00:13:23,070 --> 00:13:24,890 I absolutely loved Strop. 269 00:13:24,990 --> 00:13:28,090 I thought he was, and is, absolutely fabulous. 270 00:13:28,190 --> 00:13:29,890 Breaker, breaker, breaker, 271 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:32,971 this is the old... honeysuckle kisser. 272 00:13:33,071 --> 00:13:34,771 [audience laughing] 273 00:13:34,871 --> 00:13:38,651 Hoges was doing 90% of the funny stuff. 274 00:13:38,751 --> 00:13:41,611 John would roll in with 10% of the funny stuff, 275 00:13:41,711 --> 00:13:43,891 but John was driving it all the way. 276 00:13:43,991 --> 00:13:46,291 Erm, a dash of tomato sauce. 277 00:13:46,391 --> 00:13:48,471 [audience groaning and tittering] 278 00:13:51,151 --> 00:13:52,531 Raw egg. 279 00:13:52,631 --> 00:13:54,631 [audience groaning, retching] 280 00:13:57,271 --> 00:14:00,531 And, erm... an oyster, mate. 281 00:14:00,631 --> 00:14:02,631 [audience groaning] 282 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:06,091 Then... Hold it. 283 00:14:06,191 --> 00:14:09,412 - Me secret ingredient. - I get it. Go on. 284 00:14:09,512 --> 00:14:13,632 Stir with a spoon dipped in Vegemite. 285 00:14:15,992 --> 00:14:18,052 [Paul] I know this, mate. The old gag, right? 286 00:14:18,152 --> 00:14:20,172 We stir it up, you tip it down the sink 287 00:14:20,272 --> 00:14:22,128 and you won't have a blocked drain for six months. 288 00:14:22,152 --> 00:14:23,852 - Right? - [audience laughing] 289 00:14:23,952 --> 00:14:25,492 No, mate, no. 290 00:14:25,592 --> 00:14:27,592 You drink it. 291 00:14:28,152 --> 00:14:30,392 [audience groaning] 292 00:14:31,512 --> 00:14:33,712 [moans] 293 00:14:37,072 --> 00:14:39,972 We'd get to the end of a roll through a sketch 294 00:14:40,072 --> 00:14:41,772 and Hoges would go, "Yeah, that'll do." 295 00:14:41,872 --> 00:14:43,972 And John would say, "Nah, that won't do. 296 00:14:44,072 --> 00:14:46,092 "We're doing more. We've got to keep going. 297 00:14:46,192 --> 00:14:48,072 "We've got to build it. We've got to improve it. 298 00:14:48,153 --> 00:14:49,769 "We've really got to take it somewhere else." 299 00:14:49,793 --> 00:14:51,093 Oh, excuse me, 300 00:14:51,193 --> 00:14:53,613 I've just been out there, um, shelling the peas 301 00:14:53,713 --> 00:14:56,813 and fabulolling the frilly things, what we sheilas wear. 302 00:14:56,913 --> 00:14:58,733 [audience laughing] 303 00:14:58,833 --> 00:15:00,533 [man clears throat] 304 00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:02,633 This is your wife? 305 00:15:04,273 --> 00:15:06,213 - Yeah. - [audience laughing] 306 00:15:06,313 --> 00:15:09,413 I discovered Delvene. [laughs] 307 00:15:09,513 --> 00:15:12,413 I met Delvene at a television function. 308 00:15:12,513 --> 00:15:14,209 She was just... you know, well, she's beautiful, 309 00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:15,693 but she was also funny 310 00:15:15,793 --> 00:15:17,653 and sort of not up herself or anything. 311 00:15:17,753 --> 00:15:21,333 And I said to John, "I found you a girl, mate. 312 00:15:21,433 --> 00:15:23,613 "Perfect for you." 313 00:15:23,713 --> 00:15:24,933 I wasn't thinking of it as 314 00:15:25,033 --> 00:15:26,574 a long-term permanent relationship. 315 00:15:26,674 --> 00:15:28,370 I was thinking, "She'd be good in the shows." 316 00:15:28,394 --> 00:15:30,234 And, you know, she had a great sense of humour. 317 00:15:30,274 --> 00:15:32,374 He came over and said, 318 00:15:32,474 --> 00:15:34,094 "You don't know me, I'm John Cornell. 319 00:15:34,194 --> 00:15:36,374 "I produce The Paul Hogan Shows. 320 00:15:36,474 --> 00:15:38,174 "Would you like to be on it?" 321 00:15:38,274 --> 00:15:40,854 To be asked to be on The Paul Hogan Show was huge. 322 00:15:40,954 --> 00:15:43,374 So, yes, please. Yeah. 323 00:15:43,474 --> 00:15:46,334 And then at the first rehearsal, 324 00:15:46,434 --> 00:15:48,014 you know, "Can you play a nun?" 325 00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:49,414 "Yep. Can play a nun." 326 00:15:49,514 --> 00:15:52,054 Don't come any closer, mother. I'm desperate. 327 00:15:52,154 --> 00:15:53,654 "Can you play a prostitute?" 328 00:15:53,754 --> 00:15:55,174 "Yeah, I can play a prostitute." 329 00:15:55,274 --> 00:15:58,414 Anyone ever tell you you've got a very cruel mouth? 330 00:15:58,514 --> 00:16:01,294 Like, the way it curls up at the corner like that. 331 00:16:01,394 --> 00:16:02,694 [chuckles] 332 00:16:02,794 --> 00:16:05,995 "Can you play a schoolgirl?" "Yep. Do a good schoolgirl." 333 00:16:06,755 --> 00:16:08,895 [gasps] See, Sissy, I told you it was this house 334 00:16:08,995 --> 00:16:11,095 with the aerial stickin' out the window. 335 00:16:11,195 --> 00:16:13,335 I just said yes, yes to everything 336 00:16:13,435 --> 00:16:15,975 even though I'd never done any of them before. 337 00:16:16,075 --> 00:16:17,975 I was like, I don't want to miss my chance. 338 00:16:18,075 --> 00:16:20,075 [moans] 339 00:16:23,635 --> 00:16:25,535 Great party, Hoges. [chuckles] 340 00:16:25,635 --> 00:16:27,495 [Delvene] I didn't know him at all. 341 00:16:27,595 --> 00:16:29,855 I... I thought he was Strop. 342 00:16:29,955 --> 00:16:31,615 [laughs] And then... 343 00:16:31,715 --> 00:16:34,735 and then after the first two shows, 344 00:16:34,835 --> 00:16:37,515 we started to see each other. 345 00:16:38,275 --> 00:16:40,655 And I remember saying to my mum, 346 00:16:40,755 --> 00:16:42,895 "I'm coming up to Brisbane next weekend, Mum. 347 00:16:42,995 --> 00:16:47,096 "I'm going to bring my boyfriend to meet you." 348 00:16:47,196 --> 00:16:48,976 "Oh, who's that?" And I said, "Strop." 349 00:16:49,076 --> 00:16:51,816 [imitates engine revving] 350 00:16:51,916 --> 00:16:53,916 [audience laughing] 351 00:16:54,516 --> 00:16:59,376 [laughing] So... she thought I... 352 00:16:59,476 --> 00:17:01,476 she thought I was dating Strop. 353 00:17:02,196 --> 00:17:04,196 [laughs] 354 00:17:04,956 --> 00:17:06,956 Rosie? 355 00:17:07,316 --> 00:17:09,556 [guffaws] She's under. 356 00:17:10,396 --> 00:17:13,056 Delvene was usually the desirable target 357 00:17:13,156 --> 00:17:15,576 that Strop could never get, you know? 358 00:17:15,676 --> 00:17:17,572 You'll just want to smother me with hugs and kisses 359 00:17:17,596 --> 00:17:18,696 and stuff like that. 360 00:17:18,796 --> 00:17:20,056 [audience chuckling] 361 00:17:20,156 --> 00:17:22,697 And when I say, "Stop, that's enough," 362 00:17:22,797 --> 00:17:25,857 you'll say, "I haven't started yet, 363 00:17:25,957 --> 00:17:27,957 "loverboy." 364 00:17:28,717 --> 00:17:30,377 [stifles laughter] 365 00:17:30,477 --> 00:17:32,017 [dejected] Oh, Rosie. 366 00:17:32,117 --> 00:17:33,657 [Rosie laughing] I can't take this! 367 00:17:33,757 --> 00:17:35,537 See ya, Hoges, and, uh... 368 00:17:35,637 --> 00:17:37,897 see ya, loverboy. [chuckles] 369 00:17:37,997 --> 00:17:41,057 Delvene's characters on all of those shows 370 00:17:41,157 --> 00:17:43,057 were absolutely outrageous. 371 00:17:43,157 --> 00:17:45,157 [smooth rock music plays] 372 00:17:55,997 --> 00:17:57,997 [audience tittering] 373 00:17:58,597 --> 00:17:59,817 Ohh! 374 00:17:59,917 --> 00:18:01,918 [audience laughing] 375 00:18:05,038 --> 00:18:07,778 [Peter] I think, every time that we went out on location 376 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:10,418 and shot something, or in the studio, 377 00:18:10,518 --> 00:18:13,098 between John, Paul and Delvene, 378 00:18:13,198 --> 00:18:15,198 we had the most hysterical times. 379 00:18:16,078 --> 00:18:17,138 Da-dah! 380 00:18:17,238 --> 00:18:19,898 [theme music plays] 381 00:18:19,998 --> 00:18:21,998 [squeals] 382 00:18:24,518 --> 00:18:26,518 [cackles] 383 00:18:27,438 --> 00:18:29,438 [theme music continues] 384 00:18:34,238 --> 00:18:36,638 Spread your butter on - nice and lumpy. 385 00:18:38,678 --> 00:18:40,939 Here's an important bit. 386 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:42,899 Leave a big dob of butter on the knife. 387 00:18:42,999 --> 00:18:43,999 See? Like that? 388 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:46,079 Why? 389 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:49,859 To wipe off in the Vegemite. 390 00:18:49,959 --> 00:18:52,139 [audience laughing] 391 00:18:52,239 --> 00:18:54,219 [Peter] Paul was the ultimate Aussie. 392 00:18:54,319 --> 00:18:57,939 I mean, he was... he spoke Australian. 393 00:18:58,039 --> 00:19:00,299 He was the Aussie that everybody wanted to be. 394 00:19:00,399 --> 00:19:02,459 Hogan's a 1975 Australian. 395 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,179 He doesn't talk in rhyming slang. 396 00:19:04,279 --> 00:19:05,539 He doesn't say, you know, 397 00:19:05,639 --> 00:19:07,579 "El Glia down the horse and float." 398 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:10,179 And he doesn't talk... Which sort of died 20 years ago. 399 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:12,099 And he's not the bushman. 400 00:19:12,199 --> 00:19:13,939 He hasn't got kangaroos and cork hats 401 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:15,659 and all that sort of thing around him. 402 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:17,740 He's a 1975 builder's labourer Australian. 403 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,460 And a bit of a character. 404 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,380 Not saying that every Australian's like that 405 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,416 or even that every Australian's got a bit of Hogan in 'em, 406 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,700 but there's plenty of Hogans out there in the pubs, 407 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,580 and I'll tell you what, they're alright. 408 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,960 [audience cheering, applauding] 409 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,500 Alright, mate, explain yourself. 410 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,460 What's this about you resigning from the show? 411 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,620 Yes, mate, well... 412 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,900 this can explain better than I could, mate. 413 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,180 It's me scrapbook. 414 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,280 Open it at any page. 415 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:54,500 [Paul] "This boring, talentless..." 416 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,821 - Mmm. - "..moronic throwback..." 417 00:19:56,921 --> 00:19:59,601 [audience laughing] 418 00:20:00,201 --> 00:20:02,381 That's a bit tough on you, mate. 419 00:20:02,481 --> 00:20:05,581 Uh, that's not about me, mate. That's you. 420 00:20:05,681 --> 00:20:07,621 [audience roaring with laughter] 421 00:20:07,721 --> 00:20:09,741 [Delvene] Playing Strop allowed John 422 00:20:09,841 --> 00:20:13,741 to hide behind a character as a writer. 423 00:20:13,841 --> 00:20:16,321 And he was always observant. 424 00:20:17,721 --> 00:20:20,581 He wasn't recognised in the street 425 00:20:20,681 --> 00:20:22,681 when he wasn't Strop. 426 00:20:23,641 --> 00:20:26,261 He never wanted to be in the spotlight 427 00:20:26,361 --> 00:20:29,581 because it robbed him of that opportunity to observe. 428 00:20:29,681 --> 00:20:33,581 And so, you know, for people to find out that it was 429 00:20:33,681 --> 00:20:36,542 actually a very astute businessman 430 00:20:36,642 --> 00:20:38,062 behind that character, 431 00:20:38,162 --> 00:20:40,162 it was a shock for some people. 432 00:20:41,882 --> 00:20:43,742 [Peter] John was an extraordinary businessman 433 00:20:43,842 --> 00:20:46,342 and he had great ideas and he was very ambitious. 434 00:20:46,442 --> 00:20:49,742 And once he got, you know, 435 00:20:49,842 --> 00:20:54,582 Paul settled with the shows, et cetera, 436 00:20:54,682 --> 00:20:58,342 he was continually moving on to what the next thing could be. 437 00:20:58,442 --> 00:21:01,182 He was able to crack the nuts of these things 438 00:21:01,282 --> 00:21:03,502 and he was such an optimist 439 00:21:03,602 --> 00:21:06,022 and we all assumed that one day it would happen. 440 00:21:06,122 --> 00:21:07,902 From the day I met him, he was talking about 441 00:21:08,002 --> 00:21:09,822 the potential of World Series Cricket. 442 00:21:09,922 --> 00:21:13,223 He was very astute in his negotiations with Kerry Packer 443 00:21:13,323 --> 00:21:14,783 on The Paul Hogan Show. 444 00:21:14,883 --> 00:21:17,023 [Bill] Packer, he was number one in Australia 445 00:21:17,123 --> 00:21:19,103 by a significant margin 446 00:21:19,203 --> 00:21:23,223 insofar as wealth, influence and profile 447 00:21:23,323 --> 00:21:26,243 in the entertainment and media industries. 448 00:21:27,803 --> 00:21:32,703 John knew that Kerry would be up for supporting his idea 449 00:21:32,803 --> 00:21:38,583 of a renegade breakaway cricket revolution 450 00:21:38,683 --> 00:21:41,143 that would pay the players properly. 451 00:21:41,243 --> 00:21:42,779 [Mojo Singers] ♪ Lillee's pounding down ♪ 452 00:21:42,803 --> 00:21:44,583 ♪ Like a machine ♪ 453 00:21:44,683 --> 00:21:47,203 ♪ Pascoe's making divots in the green ♪ 454 00:21:48,323 --> 00:21:50,223 ♪ Marshy's taking wickets ♪ 455 00:21:50,323 --> 00:21:52,344 ♪ Hookesy's clearing pickets ♪ 456 00:21:52,444 --> 00:21:55,384 ♪ And the Chappells' eyes have got that killer gleam... ♪ 457 00:21:55,484 --> 00:21:59,824 And so, between them, they pull that off brilliantly. 458 00:21:59,924 --> 00:22:02,944 World Series Cricket had a massive global impact. 459 00:22:03,044 --> 00:22:05,264 Australia was getting noticed. 460 00:22:05,364 --> 00:22:07,664 [Mojo Singers] ♪ Come on, Aussie, come on ♪ 461 00:22:07,764 --> 00:22:09,584 ♪ Come on ♪ 462 00:22:09,684 --> 00:22:12,944 ♪ Come on, Aussie, come on Come on ♪ 463 00:22:13,044 --> 00:22:15,904 ♪ Come on, Aussie, come on. ♪ 464 00:22:16,004 --> 00:22:18,944 So, once again, it was that resourcefulness of John 465 00:22:19,044 --> 00:22:20,904 that led him to go, "What do we need? 466 00:22:21,004 --> 00:22:23,404 "I know what we need. We need patriotism back." 467 00:22:24,964 --> 00:22:27,744 [Peter] The Australian way was what was reflected 468 00:22:27,844 --> 00:22:29,664 in the tourist campaign. 469 00:22:29,764 --> 00:22:31,585 To the rest of the world, that was Australia, 470 00:22:31,685 --> 00:22:34,865 and he personified Australia. 471 00:22:34,965 --> 00:22:37,545 America, you look like you need a holiday. 472 00:22:37,645 --> 00:22:39,865 A fair dinkum holiday. 473 00:22:39,965 --> 00:22:43,825 In the land of wonder, the land down under! 474 00:22:43,925 --> 00:22:45,905 "America, you look like you need a holiday." 475 00:22:46,005 --> 00:22:47,825 What a great opening line. 476 00:22:47,925 --> 00:22:49,821 Now, there's a few things I've got to warn ya about. 477 00:22:49,845 --> 00:22:52,145 Firstly, you're gonna get wet, 478 00:22:52,245 --> 00:22:54,625 because the place is surrounded by water. 479 00:22:54,725 --> 00:22:57,045 Oh, and you're gonna have to learn to say g'day. 480 00:22:59,125 --> 00:23:01,185 'Cause every day's a good day in Australia. 481 00:23:01,285 --> 00:23:02,785 - G'day, Paul. - G'day, love. 482 00:23:02,885 --> 00:23:04,425 Where did this idea come from? 483 00:23:04,525 --> 00:23:06,465 'Cause this whole idea for the campaign 484 00:23:06,565 --> 00:23:08,265 was yours originally, wasn't it? 485 00:23:08,365 --> 00:23:12,346 Well, not mine, but it was myself, John Cornell, 486 00:23:12,446 --> 00:23:16,106 and Alan Morris and Allan Johnston, which is Mojo. 487 00:23:16,206 --> 00:23:19,106 It was a thing we talked about for about the last two years 488 00:23:19,206 --> 00:23:21,106 after travelling a lot and finding out 489 00:23:21,206 --> 00:23:24,226 how nobody knew anything about Australia really. 490 00:23:24,326 --> 00:23:26,346 And we were all in marketing 491 00:23:26,446 --> 00:23:29,426 and thought this would be the ideal product to market. 492 00:23:29,526 --> 00:23:32,386 And then when John Brown got into office 493 00:23:32,486 --> 00:23:34,386 with the Labor Government, 494 00:23:34,486 --> 00:23:36,706 we'd heard about him, he was a goer. 495 00:23:36,806 --> 00:23:38,466 So I went and talked to him 496 00:23:38,566 --> 00:23:42,186 and he jumped in, threw a hand in too, and went from there. 497 00:23:42,286 --> 00:23:43,986 He was such a proud Australian. 498 00:23:44,086 --> 00:23:47,707 He was annoyed that people knew nothing about us, you know. 499 00:23:47,807 --> 00:23:50,587 We were the bloody mystery of the world. 500 00:23:50,687 --> 00:23:52,267 No one was coming here. 501 00:23:52,367 --> 00:23:54,147 G'day, America. 502 00:23:54,247 --> 00:23:56,747 Now, pay attention 'cause this is important stuff. 503 00:23:56,847 --> 00:23:58,743 Before you come down under for your Aussie holiday, 504 00:23:58,767 --> 00:24:00,387 you've got to get in shape. 505 00:24:00,487 --> 00:24:02,863 Tone up those relaxin' muscles 'cause they'll get a work out. 506 00:24:02,887 --> 00:24:04,887 Practise smiling. 507 00:24:06,447 --> 00:24:10,227 He dispelled all the bullshit about Australia 508 00:24:10,327 --> 00:24:12,067 and he opened the eyes of the world 509 00:24:12,167 --> 00:24:13,747 to what we've got here. 510 00:24:13,847 --> 00:24:17,907 Freedom, clean air, the environment. 511 00:24:18,007 --> 00:24:19,547 Hello. 512 00:24:19,647 --> 00:24:21,783 Looks like a boatload of your countrymen coming in there now. 513 00:24:21,807 --> 00:24:23,227 Crikey. 514 00:24:23,327 --> 00:24:27,628 We went from 57th in America 515 00:24:27,728 --> 00:24:29,788 preference for an overseas holiday 516 00:24:29,888 --> 00:24:33,908 to fifth, and Paul is so proud of that, you know. 517 00:24:34,008 --> 00:24:37,548 He refused to take any money, he and Cornell. 518 00:24:37,648 --> 00:24:40,388 He was such a proud Australian. He did it for nothing. 519 00:24:40,488 --> 00:24:43,548 All that work, all those ads. 520 00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:48,268 And it's believed that that was a deliberate act by John 521 00:24:48,368 --> 00:24:52,028 to get exposure in the United States for Paul 522 00:24:52,128 --> 00:24:54,348 with an intention of making a movie. 523 00:24:54,448 --> 00:24:56,228 They hadn't thought of making a movie then. 524 00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:57,828 They certainly hadn't written it. 525 00:24:57,928 --> 00:24:59,668 Come and say g'day. 526 00:24:59,768 --> 00:25:02,108 I'll slip an extra shrimp on the barbie for you. 527 00:25:02,208 --> 00:25:04,869 [jingle music plays] ♪ Come and say g'day. ♪ 528 00:25:04,969 --> 00:25:06,269 [man] You recognise this guy? 529 00:25:06,369 --> 00:25:08,269 He's talking about the shrimp on the barbecue. 530 00:25:08,369 --> 00:25:09,829 Haven't you ever seen that ad? 531 00:25:09,929 --> 00:25:12,229 Ain't that the dude on that commercial ad? 532 00:25:12,329 --> 00:25:13,629 They'll be saying, "Hey, mate." 533 00:25:13,729 --> 00:25:15,709 Yes, that's the Australian guy - Hogan. 534 00:25:15,809 --> 00:25:18,149 Aussie holiday. Check it out! 535 00:25:18,249 --> 00:25:19,709 [both laugh] 536 00:25:19,809 --> 00:25:22,069 I became a proud badge wearer 537 00:25:22,169 --> 00:25:24,389 for Australians around the world. 538 00:25:24,489 --> 00:25:26,469 Paul Hogan is here this evening, Bob. 539 00:25:26,569 --> 00:25:28,149 - G'day, mate. - How are ya, brother? 540 00:25:28,249 --> 00:25:30,469 [Bob Hawke] Good, good. 541 00:25:30,569 --> 00:25:34,189 Can I say to you, er, Hoges, seriously, 542 00:25:34,289 --> 00:25:36,465 thanks for what you're doing for Australia with those ads. 543 00:25:36,489 --> 00:25:38,429 Means more jobs for Australians 544 00:25:38,529 --> 00:25:40,349 and it means more people going back to America 545 00:25:40,449 --> 00:25:41,629 and talking about us. 546 00:25:41,729 --> 00:25:44,190 You've done a great job, Hoges, really. 547 00:25:44,290 --> 00:25:48,450 [audience applauding] 548 00:25:49,970 --> 00:25:51,390 And when someone says, 549 00:25:51,490 --> 00:25:52,986 "Where are you going for your holidays?" 550 00:25:53,010 --> 00:25:54,390 Say, "Australia." 551 00:25:54,490 --> 00:25:56,190 Oh, and if they say, "Where's that?" 552 00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:58,350 Tell 'em... [blows air] 553 00:25:58,450 --> 00:26:00,670 Tell 'em, "It's where the America's Cup is." 554 00:26:00,770 --> 00:26:01,870 [jingle music plays] 555 00:26:01,970 --> 00:26:04,330 ♪ Come and say g'day. ♪ 556 00:26:04,810 --> 00:26:06,470 [announcer] Australia has done it! 557 00:26:06,570 --> 00:26:08,670 Australia has won the America's Cup! 558 00:26:08,770 --> 00:26:11,470 [mellow music] 559 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:15,910 [crowd applauding] 560 00:26:16,010 --> 00:26:17,950 I tell you what, any boss who sacks anyone 561 00:26:18,050 --> 00:26:20,070 for not turning up today is a bum. 562 00:26:20,170 --> 00:26:22,891 [laughter and cheering] 563 00:26:24,051 --> 00:26:26,871 [Delvene] That whole transition had started to occur 564 00:26:26,971 --> 00:26:29,151 in Australia, 565 00:26:29,251 --> 00:26:32,071 and it might've been on the back of relishing being Aussies 566 00:26:32,171 --> 00:26:34,231 after the win of the America's Cup. 567 00:26:34,331 --> 00:26:36,431 We had just started to receive recognition, 568 00:26:36,531 --> 00:26:39,671 but we didn't really understand who we were. 569 00:26:39,771 --> 00:26:43,471 And why not have someone as approachable and likeable 570 00:26:43,571 --> 00:26:45,831 as Paul Hogan represent our country? 571 00:26:45,931 --> 00:26:50,951 And so that kind of bred Mick Dundee. 572 00:26:51,051 --> 00:26:54,251 [traffic blaring] 573 00:26:56,211 --> 00:26:59,751 [Paul] I was doing the tourism promotion in New York 574 00:26:59,851 --> 00:27:02,432 and I had to walk back from where we were, 575 00:27:02,532 --> 00:27:03,792 back to my hotel, 576 00:27:03,892 --> 00:27:06,792 and it was five o'clock or something in New York 577 00:27:06,892 --> 00:27:11,072 and it was just so horrendously crowded 578 00:27:11,172 --> 00:27:12,952 and busy and bustling 579 00:27:13,052 --> 00:27:15,752 and, sort of, it made me feel like a hillbilly. 580 00:27:15,852 --> 00:27:19,232 I virtually wrote it walking down the street 581 00:27:19,332 --> 00:27:21,032 and then back at the hotel, 582 00:27:21,132 --> 00:27:23,972 handwritten in block capitals. [chuckles] 583 00:27:24,772 --> 00:27:26,552 [Delvene] Hoges brought it to John 584 00:27:26,652 --> 00:27:31,412 and then I kind of read it over John's shoulder, really. 585 00:27:32,452 --> 00:27:35,072 [Paul] I wrote it out like it was almost like a book. 586 00:27:35,172 --> 00:27:37,632 And then John principally, and Ken, 587 00:27:37,732 --> 00:27:39,953 helped me turn it into a screenplay. 588 00:27:40,053 --> 00:27:43,113 John was always extracting, extracting 589 00:27:43,213 --> 00:27:46,733 the absolute best from Hoges, writing and performing. 590 00:27:48,653 --> 00:27:50,313 [Paul] He's there, saying, 591 00:27:50,413 --> 00:27:52,753 "Now, mate, you can do better than that - that line. 592 00:27:52,853 --> 00:27:55,153 "And cut the end off that, make it a bit shorter." 593 00:27:55,253 --> 00:27:57,713 He was a brilliant sub-editor, you know. 594 00:27:57,813 --> 00:27:59,193 Oh, I loved the idea. 595 00:27:59,293 --> 00:28:01,913 I loved the idea of, first of all, using a bushman 596 00:28:02,013 --> 00:28:04,073 from Australia as the central character. 597 00:28:04,173 --> 00:28:06,833 Because we didn't have many homegrown heroes. 598 00:28:06,933 --> 00:28:09,353 We always talked about it, even in the script stages, 599 00:28:09,453 --> 00:28:11,313 being a double-barrel shotgun 600 00:28:11,413 --> 00:28:13,993 in that we thought... we wanted to make a movie 601 00:28:14,093 --> 00:28:16,113 that appealed to people from seven to 70. 602 00:28:16,213 --> 00:28:18,114 [Peter] John wanted to make a movie. 603 00:28:18,214 --> 00:28:19,874 I think he had in mind right at the start 604 00:28:19,974 --> 00:28:21,114 when he first met Paul - 605 00:28:21,214 --> 00:28:22,714 "One day we'll make a movie with him." 606 00:28:22,814 --> 00:28:24,314 That was John's mind. 607 00:28:24,414 --> 00:28:26,314 I was running Hoyts Edgley Productions 608 00:28:26,414 --> 00:28:27,994 as the general manager of the business. 609 00:28:28,094 --> 00:28:29,554 John said, you know, 610 00:28:29,654 --> 00:28:33,474 "In terms of the raising of the budget 611 00:28:33,574 --> 00:28:35,354 "and the executive production role, 612 00:28:35,454 --> 00:28:37,230 "is this something that Hoyts Edgley could do?" 613 00:28:37,254 --> 00:28:38,994 And I said, "Absolutely. Yeah, this is." 614 00:28:39,094 --> 00:28:42,714 I loved the script and others around us loved the script. 615 00:28:42,814 --> 00:28:45,334 A couple threw some doubts in about it. 616 00:28:51,254 --> 00:28:53,194 There was one significant naysayer, 617 00:28:53,294 --> 00:28:56,315 and it was his view - as a person of the film industry 618 00:28:56,415 --> 00:28:58,515 and a director who had done a few things - 619 00:28:58,615 --> 00:29:01,735 that the script was a load of bollocks, it was hopeless. 620 00:29:06,375 --> 00:29:08,435 Put in a six-page memo to Hoyts 621 00:29:08,535 --> 00:29:10,515 and he was advising at the time, saying, 622 00:29:10,615 --> 00:29:12,751 "Don't touch Crocodile Dundee with a 40-foot barge pole." 623 00:29:12,775 --> 00:29:14,115 "It won't succeed. 624 00:29:14,215 --> 00:29:17,975 "Hogan is a television star. He won't ever be a movie star." 625 00:29:22,495 --> 00:29:24,675 We lost the film. We didn't get it. 626 00:29:24,775 --> 00:29:26,315 It marched on. 627 00:29:26,415 --> 00:29:29,515 If I had money back then, which I didn't, 628 00:29:29,615 --> 00:29:31,795 it would've been a no-brainer, knowing John Cornell, 629 00:29:31,895 --> 00:29:32,995 to invest in that. 630 00:29:33,095 --> 00:29:34,515 Like, a no-brainer. 631 00:29:34,615 --> 00:29:37,556 Strangely enough, some people missed that no-brainer. 632 00:29:37,656 --> 00:29:39,196 Some people got into it - 633 00:29:39,296 --> 00:29:41,556 well-regarded, successful people - 634 00:29:41,656 --> 00:29:43,436 and then decided it wasn't that good. 635 00:29:43,536 --> 00:29:45,276 I get a phone call from Packer. 636 00:29:45,376 --> 00:29:48,116 He said, "Oh, your mate rang me. 637 00:29:48,216 --> 00:29:50,076 He wants eight million to make a film. 638 00:29:50,176 --> 00:29:51,556 He had put in some money, 639 00:29:51,656 --> 00:29:53,756 like a million dollars or 10% or 15% of it, 640 00:29:53,856 --> 00:29:55,756 and then pulled it out. 641 00:29:55,856 --> 00:29:57,516 'Cause he was advised to pull it out, 642 00:29:57,616 --> 00:29:59,552 that it wasn't gonna work and those sorts of things, 643 00:29:59,576 --> 00:30:01,676 and he did it, which is quite unusual for Kerry 644 00:30:01,776 --> 00:30:03,756 'cause he's another one with amazing instincts. 645 00:30:03,856 --> 00:30:05,876 So he scrubbed it. 646 00:30:05,976 --> 00:30:07,716 He laughed in the long run, Kerry. 647 00:30:07,816 --> 00:30:09,236 At least he laughed later. 648 00:30:09,336 --> 00:30:11,196 Left us with a shortfall. 649 00:30:11,296 --> 00:30:14,437 So, you know, mortgaged the house, 650 00:30:14,537 --> 00:30:16,837 scrambled around to get investors. 651 00:30:16,937 --> 00:30:18,117 We hung in there. 652 00:30:18,217 --> 00:30:20,517 John hung in there and got into all sorts of people. 653 00:30:20,617 --> 00:30:24,117 And then an old mate of mine from Granville, a stockbroker, 654 00:30:24,217 --> 00:30:25,477 rang up and said, 655 00:30:25,577 --> 00:30:27,273 "I hear you're trying to make a movie, Hoges." 656 00:30:27,297 --> 00:30:28,997 We'd never made a movie. 657 00:30:29,097 --> 00:30:31,277 Cornell and Hogan had never made a movie. 658 00:30:31,377 --> 00:30:33,577 Peter Faiman had never directed a movie. 659 00:30:34,617 --> 00:30:36,197 But we grew up in Granville 660 00:30:36,297 --> 00:30:37,953 and in Grandville you learned to have a go. 661 00:30:37,977 --> 00:30:39,797 So we were having a go. 662 00:30:39,897 --> 00:30:45,477 Sat down, read the script, laughed my frock off, 663 00:30:45,577 --> 00:30:48,277 called my partners at Morgan Stockbroking 664 00:30:48,377 --> 00:30:49,977 and said, "Have you ever heard of anybody 665 00:30:50,057 --> 00:30:51,838 "being able to invest in Cornell and Hogan?" 666 00:30:51,938 --> 00:30:53,594 And I said, "Well, now there's an opportunity 667 00:30:53,618 --> 00:30:55,278 "and I think we should grab it." 668 00:30:55,378 --> 00:30:57,314 We probably had about 2,000 investors overall, right? 669 00:30:57,338 --> 00:30:58,718 There were a lot of mum and dads. 670 00:30:58,818 --> 00:31:00,758 Delvene's mum and dad, they came in, 671 00:31:00,858 --> 00:31:02,438 you know, and they were just 672 00:31:02,538 --> 00:31:04,318 regular working-class people. 673 00:31:04,418 --> 00:31:06,278 John was actually thrilled about the fact 674 00:31:06,378 --> 00:31:09,238 that we were able to go to mum and dad investors 675 00:31:09,338 --> 00:31:11,318 and his friends and family. 676 00:31:11,418 --> 00:31:13,158 We're going out to the public's good fund 677 00:31:13,258 --> 00:31:15,338 because you know that there's pensioners and battlers 678 00:31:15,378 --> 00:31:16,834 who've got a share of Crocodile Dundee, 679 00:31:16,858 --> 00:31:17,978 and that makes you feel good. 680 00:31:18,058 --> 00:31:20,118 I took a punt. I took a gamble. 681 00:31:20,218 --> 00:31:22,158 But one reason was 682 00:31:22,258 --> 00:31:26,598 that I thought Paul Hogan was a born comic. 683 00:31:26,698 --> 00:31:30,719 He has this wonderful way of looking, 684 00:31:30,819 --> 00:31:33,599 and one look can give you the message. 685 00:31:33,699 --> 00:31:35,839 Then we had the budget, and off we went. 686 00:31:35,939 --> 00:31:39,179 [rock music] 687 00:31:56,139 --> 00:32:00,239 [Delvene] John realised that Hoges had never made a film, 688 00:32:00,339 --> 00:32:02,119 he'd never made a film, 689 00:32:02,219 --> 00:32:05,399 Peter Faiman, the director, had never made a film. 690 00:32:05,499 --> 00:32:08,399 There was a vital component 691 00:32:08,499 --> 00:32:10,360 that had never done a film before. 692 00:32:10,460 --> 00:32:14,000 And so John's attitude was, "I want the best. 693 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,080 "I want Russell Boyd and Ray Brown," 694 00:32:17,180 --> 00:32:19,720 and all of these people who were hugely experienced 695 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:22,080 and excellent in their fields 696 00:32:22,180 --> 00:32:24,240 to help carry this project. 697 00:32:24,340 --> 00:32:27,400 Because, first of all, we're going to learn from them, 698 00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:30,480 but secondly, they're going to pick up any shortfalls 699 00:32:30,580 --> 00:32:34,040 that might be there because we're first timers. 700 00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:36,920 [indistinct chatter on set] 701 00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:39,040 [Peter] Well, the central cast was obviously Paul 702 00:32:39,140 --> 00:32:41,960 and we were all very, very keen on working with John Meillon. 703 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:44,920 So there was an Australian cast that we gathered, 704 00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:48,261 but then the American girl was something else. 705 00:32:50,821 --> 00:32:53,361 An associate producer and I were left in LA for a while 706 00:32:53,461 --> 00:32:57,281 to find somebody to play this part of Sue. 707 00:32:57,381 --> 00:32:59,961 We interviewed a lot of well-known actresses, 708 00:33:00,061 --> 00:33:03,401 but nobody really in LA was interested 709 00:33:03,501 --> 00:33:06,961 in taking the risk of coming to Australia, 710 00:33:07,061 --> 00:33:09,801 going through some plight in the outback, 711 00:33:09,901 --> 00:33:13,701 staying in motels instead of hotels and not having a limo. 712 00:33:15,341 --> 00:33:19,321 Linda Kozlowski came in to meet 713 00:33:19,421 --> 00:33:21,761 and she said, "Yeah, I'm up for it, 714 00:33:21,861 --> 00:33:25,601 "I'll give it a go. Sounds terrific." You know? 715 00:33:25,701 --> 00:33:28,982 "What's he like?" [chuckles] Meaning Paul. 716 00:33:29,942 --> 00:33:32,078 [Linda] One of the things that struck me about the script 717 00:33:32,102 --> 00:33:34,602 was that it had all the elements 718 00:33:34,702 --> 00:33:37,802 of what I would want to see when I go see a movie. 719 00:33:37,902 --> 00:33:41,962 It was funny, it was romantic, it had adventure, 720 00:33:42,062 --> 00:33:44,302 you know, it had sort of a little bit of everything in it 721 00:33:44,342 --> 00:33:45,802 and I loved his character. 722 00:33:45,902 --> 00:33:49,802 I mean, I thought if I ever met that man in life, 723 00:33:49,902 --> 00:33:51,562 I would want his children. 724 00:33:51,662 --> 00:33:53,362 He's such a great character. 725 00:33:53,462 --> 00:33:55,762 The only problem is Actors' Equity have said, 726 00:33:55,862 --> 00:33:57,482 "No, you can't do that. 727 00:33:57,582 --> 00:33:59,782 "If you want to bring someone in for an Australian film, 728 00:33:59,822 --> 00:34:01,722 "they'll need to be a known celebrity. 729 00:34:01,822 --> 00:34:03,522 "You'll want a superstar." 730 00:34:03,622 --> 00:34:06,243 [Linda] I had just done Death of a Salesman on Broadway 731 00:34:06,343 --> 00:34:08,163 with Dustin Hoffman 732 00:34:08,263 --> 00:34:10,123 and John Malkovich and Stephen Lang. 733 00:34:10,223 --> 00:34:14,043 And I wasn't a well-known actress, I wasn't famous, 734 00:34:14,143 --> 00:34:15,923 and they felt like if you're not going to get 735 00:34:16,023 --> 00:34:17,283 a famous actress, 736 00:34:17,383 --> 00:34:19,283 then it should be an Australian actress. 737 00:34:19,383 --> 00:34:22,003 [Delvene] John believed in authenticity. 738 00:34:22,103 --> 00:34:26,023 An American actress had to play the American role. 739 00:34:26,903 --> 00:34:30,503 To solve the visa issue, John wrote to John Brown. 740 00:34:31,943 --> 00:34:34,403 He says, "I'm stuck." 741 00:34:34,503 --> 00:34:38,363 Well, I had a multiple of portfolios. 742 00:34:38,463 --> 00:34:40,883 I was the Minister for the Arts, so that was affecting me. 743 00:34:40,983 --> 00:34:43,404 I was also the Minister for Immigration - 744 00:34:43,504 --> 00:34:45,444 acting at that stage, someone was away. 745 00:34:45,544 --> 00:34:47,324 So as the Minister for Arts, 746 00:34:47,424 --> 00:34:50,844 I wrote to myself as the Minister for Immigration 747 00:34:50,944 --> 00:34:53,204 and wrote back, giving permission to bring her in. 748 00:34:53,304 --> 00:34:54,604 [laughs] 749 00:34:54,704 --> 00:34:57,364 Actors' Equity haven't forgiven me yet! 750 00:34:57,464 --> 00:34:59,464 [laughs] 751 00:35:00,584 --> 00:35:02,564 [Delvene] You'd never know that John was stressed. 752 00:35:02,664 --> 00:35:05,964 He loved to solve problems. 753 00:35:06,064 --> 00:35:08,724 He was good at it, didn't mind a challenge at all. 754 00:35:08,824 --> 00:35:12,004 You know, I had confidence that you guys would get me in. 755 00:35:12,104 --> 00:35:14,804 [laughs] I really... I did. 756 00:35:14,904 --> 00:35:16,984 I don't know why. I just really believed that. 757 00:35:19,624 --> 00:35:21,684 [Ray Brown] I'll never forget we met those guys, 758 00:35:21,784 --> 00:35:25,365 Paul and Corny on set. 759 00:35:25,465 --> 00:35:28,045 We got off to a great start. 760 00:35:28,145 --> 00:35:30,845 Hoges and Corny come towards us 761 00:35:30,945 --> 00:35:34,405 and he used the old g'day thing. 762 00:35:34,505 --> 00:35:38,645 And he just said, "Hey, guys, 763 00:35:38,745 --> 00:35:42,085 "we think you're the most experienced crew 764 00:35:42,185 --> 00:35:44,765 "we could get in Australia, 765 00:35:44,865 --> 00:35:49,325 "and we don't know a lot about feature filming." 766 00:35:49,425 --> 00:35:52,245 And then he said, "But, by the way, 767 00:35:52,345 --> 00:35:56,045 "we know a hell of a lot about television 768 00:35:56,145 --> 00:36:00,245 "and, more importantly, we know a hell of a lot about comedy." 769 00:36:00,345 --> 00:36:03,926 At the end of that little chitchat, 770 00:36:04,026 --> 00:36:07,586 Hoges said, "Let's go make a movie together." 771 00:36:09,826 --> 00:36:12,966 Shooting. Start over. 772 00:36:13,066 --> 00:36:15,346 - [shouts indistinctly] - [man] Action! 773 00:36:16,066 --> 00:36:18,906 [exciting instrumental music] 774 00:36:34,266 --> 00:36:38,006 Hi. Walter Reilly, Never Never Safaris. 775 00:36:38,106 --> 00:36:40,287 I'm Mr Dundee's business partner. 776 00:36:40,387 --> 00:36:42,003 [Linda as Sue] Nice to meet you, Mr Reilly. 777 00:36:42,027 --> 00:36:43,767 Oh, please, call me Walter. 778 00:36:43,867 --> 00:36:46,767 We're pretty informal up here in the bush. 779 00:36:46,867 --> 00:36:50,007 Linda had yet to have the adventure 780 00:36:50,107 --> 00:36:52,507 of actually shooting in the outback. 781 00:36:54,067 --> 00:36:55,947 [Linda] I really didn't know that much about it. 782 00:36:56,027 --> 00:36:58,047 I felt like, you know, it'll be some foresty place 783 00:36:58,147 --> 00:37:00,447 just outside Sydney somewhere. 784 00:37:00,547 --> 00:37:05,107 And I wasn't prepared for what it really was. 785 00:37:06,187 --> 00:37:08,187 [silence] 786 00:37:09,787 --> 00:37:11,787 [crow cawing] 787 00:37:15,427 --> 00:37:19,028 So the first stop was in the middle of nowhere, right? 788 00:37:22,508 --> 00:37:25,768 It was dead silent, 789 00:37:25,868 --> 00:37:28,488 there was nothing around, she's a New York girl 790 00:37:28,588 --> 00:37:31,328 and freaked, absolutely freaked out, 791 00:37:31,428 --> 00:37:33,428 and said, "I can't do this, I can't do this." 792 00:37:35,668 --> 00:37:37,448 [clapper loader] Mark it. 793 00:37:37,548 --> 00:37:39,548 Action! 794 00:37:46,188 --> 00:37:48,188 Welcome to Walkabout Creek. 795 00:37:51,868 --> 00:37:54,848 [Peter] So all her security had gone, right? 796 00:37:54,948 --> 00:37:58,149 So that's a New York girl stepping into the outback. 797 00:38:02,629 --> 00:38:05,489 [Linda] It was actually a little town called McKinlay 798 00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:08,849 that we changed it to Walkabout Creek for the film. 799 00:38:08,949 --> 00:38:12,069 And the actual town had a population of 17. 800 00:38:16,309 --> 00:38:17,529 We knew them all. 801 00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:19,949 We knew the whole town by the time we left. 802 00:38:22,909 --> 00:38:27,929 This is the pub and this is where I first meet Mr Dundee. 803 00:38:28,029 --> 00:38:30,029 - Nah, nah... - Alright. 804 00:38:31,949 --> 00:38:36,730 [Peter] Linda was a Juilliard-trained actress. 805 00:38:36,830 --> 00:38:42,210 Hoges is not in the slightest bit interested 806 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:44,410 in actresses for a start, 807 00:38:44,510 --> 00:38:46,970 meaning, you know, the profession of it, 808 00:38:47,070 --> 00:38:49,070 and certainly didn't want to rehearse. 809 00:38:50,110 --> 00:38:51,690 [Linda] Pete was great. 810 00:38:51,790 --> 00:38:54,570 We would just go page by page through the script 811 00:38:54,670 --> 00:38:56,610 and he was my sounding board. 812 00:38:56,710 --> 00:39:01,090 I could really talk to him about the character 813 00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:03,650 and my feelings and what I felt good about, 814 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:05,750 what I didn't feel so good about. 815 00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:12,130 [Peter] When Linda met Hoges and he didn't want to rehearse, 816 00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:14,091 she suddenly recognised, "Well, hang on, 817 00:39:14,191 --> 00:39:16,131 "I'm working with an amateur here. 818 00:39:16,231 --> 00:39:18,851 "Who is this person? I don't get it." 819 00:39:18,951 --> 00:39:21,531 Nothing like a double bourbon to start the day off right. 820 00:39:21,631 --> 00:39:23,631 [crew member laughs] 821 00:39:24,591 --> 00:39:26,591 Hey? 822 00:39:29,271 --> 00:39:32,251 [Peter] I spent hours at night talking her down 823 00:39:32,351 --> 00:39:33,971 because she wanted to go back to America 824 00:39:34,071 --> 00:39:36,011 because she was working with this unprofessional. 825 00:39:36,111 --> 00:39:39,811 And I had to say "He's a very big star. 826 00:39:39,911 --> 00:39:43,131 "People in Australia love him. He's terribly smart. 827 00:39:43,231 --> 00:39:47,311 "It will work. I promise you it will work." 828 00:39:49,791 --> 00:39:52,092 Get the camera off me so I can spit this shit out. 829 00:39:52,192 --> 00:39:54,192 [crew members laugh] 830 00:39:55,752 --> 00:39:58,172 [Peter] At that point in time I realised that 831 00:39:58,272 --> 00:40:00,772 what we really had to do 832 00:40:00,872 --> 00:40:05,772 was film as much as we could in sequence 833 00:40:05,872 --> 00:40:08,412 so that they could really get together 834 00:40:08,512 --> 00:40:10,292 and work together properly. 835 00:40:10,392 --> 00:40:12,372 And the story was, of course, 836 00:40:12,472 --> 00:40:16,132 her as a journalist meeting Paul as this outback guy. 837 00:40:16,232 --> 00:40:20,532 So I thought, "Well, if we start there, 838 00:40:20,632 --> 00:40:24,732 "then perhaps the chemistry will build," right? 839 00:40:24,832 --> 00:40:28,092 'Cause it was the only way I could get her around 840 00:40:28,192 --> 00:40:31,773 to accepting Paul's style of work 841 00:40:31,873 --> 00:40:34,853 and, frankly, Paul around to understanding 842 00:40:34,953 --> 00:40:37,133 what she required from him. 843 00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:39,373 Hang on to Cyril for me, Wal, 844 00:40:39,473 --> 00:40:42,393 while I dance with this charming young lady. 845 00:40:44,793 --> 00:40:46,133 [Paul as Mick] Stand aside, boys. 846 00:40:46,233 --> 00:40:48,373 [wolf-whistling, lively chatter] 847 00:40:48,473 --> 00:40:50,569 [Linda] Honestly, being on the set of Crocodile Dundee, 848 00:40:50,593 --> 00:40:53,013 you felt that innocence in a way. 849 00:40:53,113 --> 00:40:56,373 It was like, "I've got a barn, let's put on a show! 850 00:40:56,473 --> 00:40:57,693 "Come on, everybody!" 851 00:40:57,793 --> 00:40:59,793 [upbeat music] 852 00:41:01,753 --> 00:41:04,413 It had that, like, "Yeah!" kind of feeling 853 00:41:04,513 --> 00:41:06,733 and you don't get that very often. 854 00:41:06,833 --> 00:41:09,214 [crew member] And cut. Thank you. 855 00:41:09,314 --> 00:41:11,374 [John chuckles] 856 00:41:11,474 --> 00:41:12,934 [both laugh] 857 00:41:13,034 --> 00:41:15,274 - We're not saying a word. - Hello. 858 00:41:15,914 --> 00:41:17,414 [Delvene] From what I witnessed, 859 00:41:17,514 --> 00:41:19,294 it was just a great shoot. 860 00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,174 Just a happy time for everybody. 861 00:41:21,274 --> 00:41:23,094 "You'll find just a nice friendly bunch 862 00:41:23,194 --> 00:41:25,534 "up here in this town." 863 00:41:25,634 --> 00:41:28,094 - [laughs] - And I smile and walk in. 864 00:41:28,194 --> 00:41:30,130 Perfect. Yeah, we don't need to do that then, do we? 865 00:41:30,154 --> 00:41:31,334 That's easy. 866 00:41:31,434 --> 00:41:33,090 In fact, you should've brought your own crew. 867 00:41:33,114 --> 00:41:34,614 And I know how to do the con scene, 868 00:41:34,714 --> 00:41:37,054 - so I can go home now, can I? - [laughs] 869 00:41:37,154 --> 00:41:39,170 [John Meillon] They're marvellous people to work with 870 00:41:39,194 --> 00:41:41,490 and it's their first film, and it doesn't make any difference 871 00:41:41,514 --> 00:41:43,214 because the way they're going about it, 872 00:41:43,314 --> 00:41:45,174 it could've been their 25th film. 873 00:41:45,274 --> 00:41:47,714 Rehearsal and action! 874 00:41:50,435 --> 00:41:52,755 [John Meillon] I think I can speak on behalf of everybody - 875 00:41:52,835 --> 00:41:55,375 nobody has ever been treated on a picture 876 00:41:55,475 --> 00:41:59,775 the way that Mr Cornell has treated us as a producer. 877 00:41:59,875 --> 00:42:04,375 And everybody's... it's a very big happy unit, 878 00:42:04,475 --> 00:42:06,775 and that's a tremendous thing for a film. 879 00:42:06,875 --> 00:42:08,095 Tremendous thing. 880 00:42:08,195 --> 00:42:10,655 Hello, Charlie. Scratch? 881 00:42:10,755 --> 00:42:13,935 John Cornell is a doll. He's wonderful. 882 00:42:14,035 --> 00:42:15,975 He's just been so kind to everyone, 883 00:42:16,075 --> 00:42:18,075 really taken great care of us. 884 00:42:19,595 --> 00:42:21,815 He's great at, you know, keeping the spirit together 885 00:42:21,915 --> 00:42:24,855 between everyone and just really looking after us all. 886 00:42:24,955 --> 00:42:26,956 He's been terrific. 887 00:42:27,476 --> 00:42:30,096 Just behind you, near where that... just over your head. 888 00:42:30,196 --> 00:42:32,496 [crew member] Towards me, Brownie. Big one. 889 00:42:32,596 --> 00:42:34,736 [Linda] I think Australian crews are wonderful. 890 00:42:34,836 --> 00:42:38,776 I've had a great time. They're really a real family. 891 00:42:38,876 --> 00:42:41,976 And I think... sometimes when I'm off the set, 892 00:42:42,076 --> 00:42:45,576 I'll just sit back and watch them and really admire them. 893 00:42:45,676 --> 00:42:47,456 I mean, they work really, really hard. 894 00:42:47,556 --> 00:42:48,816 I was going to say "bloody". 895 00:42:48,916 --> 00:42:51,676 I'm really turning Australian now! [laughs] 896 00:42:54,396 --> 00:42:56,496 Well, one can only assume that somewhere up there, 897 00:42:56,596 --> 00:42:58,136 you know, sort of 10 feet in the air, 898 00:42:58,236 --> 00:42:59,776 we'll get a good opening composition. 899 00:42:59,876 --> 00:43:01,476 [Russell] As the director of photography, 900 00:43:01,516 --> 00:43:03,776 or DOP, as we call it out here... [chuckles] 901 00:43:03,876 --> 00:43:05,897 - 16 on the line. - 16 on the line? 902 00:43:05,997 --> 00:43:08,937 - [Peter speaks indistinctly] - No, I don't, actually. 903 00:43:09,037 --> 00:43:11,857 My prime role is lighting the set 904 00:43:11,957 --> 00:43:14,617 with the help of the gaffer and his assistant 905 00:43:14,717 --> 00:43:16,497 and the rest of the crew. 906 00:43:16,597 --> 00:43:19,577 But the script determines everything. 907 00:43:19,677 --> 00:43:23,417 And the production team, particularly from the director, 908 00:43:23,517 --> 00:43:27,137 they determine how it's going to go together obviously 909 00:43:27,237 --> 00:43:29,317 and what their thoughts are about how to make it work 910 00:43:29,357 --> 00:43:30,737 and keep bubbling along. 911 00:43:30,837 --> 00:43:32,293 We get the sense that we're too close. 912 00:43:32,317 --> 00:43:33,497 Well, it will be... 913 00:43:33,597 --> 00:43:35,293 I know when we're down here, you want them to be... 914 00:43:35,317 --> 00:43:36,773 - Righto. Yep. - Understand what I'm saying? 915 00:43:36,797 --> 00:43:37,937 Sure, sure. 916 00:43:38,037 --> 00:43:40,937 It's your job to keep everybody happy, really. 917 00:43:41,037 --> 00:43:42,897 It's part of the job to keep everybody happy. 918 00:43:42,997 --> 00:43:45,898 [Peter] Can we... can somebody grab us a cushion, PJ? 919 00:43:45,998 --> 00:43:47,998 [crew member] Yep. 920 00:43:48,838 --> 00:43:52,218 [Ray] Film crews have got to get on like a house on fire, 921 00:43:52,318 --> 00:43:54,458 and we all did on that film 922 00:43:54,558 --> 00:43:57,138 because we're all like-minded, I guess. 923 00:43:57,238 --> 00:43:59,798 So it was a very enjoyable shoot. 924 00:44:02,598 --> 00:44:04,738 Grace Walker was our production designer 925 00:44:04,838 --> 00:44:08,598 and he found a rubber crocodile somewhere. 926 00:44:10,678 --> 00:44:13,458 [machinery whirring] 927 00:44:13,558 --> 00:44:15,218 We used that for a lot of scenes - 928 00:44:15,318 --> 00:44:17,438 in the attack scene, obviously. 929 00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:25,019 Didn't have sharp teeth or anything. [chuckles] 930 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,959 - How big, roughly? - About three foot. 931 00:44:28,799 --> 00:44:29,979 Keep going? 932 00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:31,655 Sure will - we can sort of lift it over I think. 933 00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:33,139 - Wouldn't you say? - Yeah. 934 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,099 [Peter] And he comes in here and grabs it now. 935 00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:37,775 We'll probably have to be drifting it back 936 00:44:37,799 --> 00:44:38,939 as it goes or something. 937 00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:40,579 - Yeah. - We've still got her face... 938 00:44:40,679 --> 00:44:42,855 [Russell] Film crews are the same the world over I've found. 939 00:44:42,879 --> 00:44:44,499 Aspirations are the same 940 00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,619 and we get on with the job at hand. 941 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,619 It's just a whole conglomeration of people 942 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,499 working together, which is what I loved. 943 00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:54,519 [crew member] Standby... and action. 944 00:44:57,639 --> 00:44:58,859 [gasping] 945 00:44:58,959 --> 00:45:01,100 [Peter] Russell had at that time, you know, 946 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,220 such a history in movies, 947 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,700 and to have this sort of television director 948 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,380 working with him, you know, 949 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,460 it was not what he was accustomed to, really. 950 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,340 So if we're shooting that way in sort of... 951 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:12,980 Well, there's no reason, by the way, 952 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,056 that she shouldn't appear behind the rocks and we... 953 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,300 like, that she doesn't appear behind the rocks there. 954 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,120 Oh, no, we have the rocks in the foreground. 955 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,060 We first met up obviously as the storyboard 956 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,500 was being created 957 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,100 and we talked about how simple I wanted it to be. 958 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,060 And then he brought magic to the screen 959 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,860 with this simplicity of shots that I wanted 960 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,180 that were absolutely magical on the screen 961 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,180 because he's the best. 962 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,141 [laidback instrumental music plays] 963 00:45:40,241 --> 00:45:42,481 [geese honking] 964 00:45:46,281 --> 00:45:48,281 [birds screeching] 965 00:45:54,841 --> 00:45:56,841 [buffalo grunts] 966 00:46:03,401 --> 00:46:06,421 [Delvene] Russell Boyd - such an artist 967 00:46:06,521 --> 00:46:09,301 when it comes to cinematography 968 00:46:09,401 --> 00:46:13,181 that even though it was only a comedy film, 969 00:46:13,281 --> 00:46:17,761 it had this huge cinematic magnificence. 970 00:46:24,402 --> 00:46:26,342 The first time I saw the rushes 971 00:46:26,442 --> 00:46:29,502 was when Mick's talking about being attacked by the crocodile 972 00:46:29,602 --> 00:46:31,262 when he finds his dinghy. 973 00:46:31,362 --> 00:46:32,938 Now you can see where he sunk his teeth in. 974 00:46:32,962 --> 00:46:35,342 And it was a side of Paul I hadn't seen before, really, 975 00:46:35,442 --> 00:46:38,942 when he was low key and understated 976 00:46:39,042 --> 00:46:40,502 and slightly menacing. 977 00:46:40,602 --> 00:46:43,022 Yeah, see, a croc will grab you, 978 00:46:43,122 --> 00:46:44,942 take you down to the bottom of the water 979 00:46:45,042 --> 00:46:46,742 and roll you over and over and over 980 00:46:46,842 --> 00:46:48,862 until you stop kicking. 981 00:46:48,962 --> 00:46:52,102 Then he'll take you away to his meat safe somewhere. 982 00:46:52,202 --> 00:46:54,542 A rock ledge, log, 983 00:46:54,642 --> 00:46:57,503 down under the water, and jam you under it... 984 00:46:57,603 --> 00:46:59,219 And John said, "What do you think, Delly?" 985 00:46:59,243 --> 00:47:00,863 And I said, "I think it's incredible." 986 00:47:00,963 --> 00:47:03,263 This is the side of Paul that we haven't seen. 987 00:47:03,363 --> 00:47:06,023 So he now becomes Mick Dundee. 988 00:47:06,123 --> 00:47:09,063 Yeah, anyway, he wasn't happy with the grip he had on me, 989 00:47:09,163 --> 00:47:10,743 so he let go to get a better one, 990 00:47:10,843 --> 00:47:12,843 and I talked him out of it. 991 00:47:14,043 --> 00:47:16,903 [Delvene] Mick was wise, 992 00:47:17,003 --> 00:47:21,503 he was solitary, self-reliant, 993 00:47:21,603 --> 00:47:26,163 smart, not egotistical... 994 00:47:28,163 --> 00:47:30,163 ..honourable... 995 00:47:31,083 --> 00:47:34,303 ..and appealing to men and women. 996 00:47:34,403 --> 00:47:36,704 And so I think we found our hero. 997 00:47:36,804 --> 00:47:38,684 More tucker here than you could poke a stick at. 998 00:47:38,764 --> 00:47:40,184 Tucker? 999 00:47:40,284 --> 00:47:41,824 Food. You hungry? 1000 00:47:41,924 --> 00:47:43,704 [Delvene] And hugely funny. 1001 00:47:43,804 --> 00:47:45,504 Did I forget to say funny? 1002 00:47:45,604 --> 00:47:47,704 [laughs] 1003 00:47:47,804 --> 00:47:51,104 How do you like your goanna? Medium? Well-done? 1004 00:47:51,204 --> 00:47:53,224 You don't really expect me to eat that? 1005 00:47:53,324 --> 00:47:55,384 Yeah, it's great. Here, try some of those yams. 1006 00:47:55,484 --> 00:47:57,204 [Sue] What about you? Aren't you having any? 1007 00:47:57,284 --> 00:47:59,904 You can live on it... 1008 00:48:00,004 --> 00:48:01,784 but it tastes like shit. 1009 00:48:01,884 --> 00:48:03,964 [chuckling] Oh... 1010 00:48:05,244 --> 00:48:09,744 Paul Hogan is, uh... just great to work with. 1011 00:48:09,844 --> 00:48:11,504 Knocking around with the flying nun, mate. 1012 00:48:11,604 --> 00:48:13,585 [laughter] 1013 00:48:13,685 --> 00:48:14,905 Good hat. 1014 00:48:15,005 --> 00:48:18,505 [Linda] He's really a generous actor. 1015 00:48:18,605 --> 00:48:20,465 He's a really good actor. 1016 00:48:20,565 --> 00:48:21,941 And I didn't know anything about him 1017 00:48:21,965 --> 00:48:23,225 when I came over here. 1018 00:48:23,325 --> 00:48:25,865 I knew him from the commercial, vaguely. You know? 1019 00:48:25,965 --> 00:48:30,145 That's all I knew. So I was just pleasantly surprised. 1020 00:48:30,245 --> 00:48:32,785 Or, you know, I just thought he was terrific. 1021 00:48:32,885 --> 00:48:34,885 Breaker, breaker, breaker. 1022 00:48:36,445 --> 00:48:39,345 The runaway shagger here. [chuckles] 1023 00:48:39,445 --> 00:48:42,465 [Peter] She saw now that he was funny 1024 00:48:42,565 --> 00:48:44,545 and fell in love. [chuckles] 1025 00:48:44,645 --> 00:48:45,985 Eventually. 1026 00:48:46,085 --> 00:48:49,425 So, really, the story of the movie 1027 00:48:49,525 --> 00:48:51,965 is really the story of their lives. 1028 00:48:54,846 --> 00:48:58,026 [Delvene] It was a romantic story, I think, 1029 00:48:58,126 --> 00:49:00,146 that when we shot chronologically, 1030 00:49:00,246 --> 00:49:02,746 when they kissed at the billabong, 1031 00:49:02,846 --> 00:49:04,846 that was their first kiss. 1032 00:49:09,246 --> 00:49:11,186 I thought that was beautiful the way he hesitated 1033 00:49:11,286 --> 00:49:13,946 before he went in and kissed her. 1034 00:49:14,046 --> 00:49:16,846 I think there was great truth in that. 1035 00:49:28,126 --> 00:49:31,387 And Linda was concerned because Paul was married. 1036 00:49:31,487 --> 00:49:33,487 But what can you do? 1037 00:49:34,567 --> 00:49:39,067 And I just tried to be her confidante obviously, 1038 00:49:39,167 --> 00:49:42,427 but also make her feel like you have to follow your heart. 1039 00:49:42,527 --> 00:49:44,147 And you do. 1040 00:49:44,247 --> 00:49:46,687 You have to follow your heart. And they did. 1041 00:49:51,887 --> 00:49:55,367 It was quite beautiful to see him find that kind of love. 1042 00:49:59,927 --> 00:50:02,627 [Linda] We went out at sunset and we had the day off, so... 1043 00:50:02,727 --> 00:50:04,867 It was so incredible - it was like a dream, 1044 00:50:04,967 --> 00:50:08,427 where you just didn't know this place could exist. 1045 00:50:08,527 --> 00:50:10,668 So beautiful. 1046 00:50:10,768 --> 00:50:15,708 We were able to film on Aboriginal land. 1047 00:50:15,808 --> 00:50:19,048 [Indigenous music plays] 1048 00:50:22,608 --> 00:50:26,148 It was such a special, amazing place. 1049 00:50:26,248 --> 00:50:30,268 It was such a privilege to be able to be there 1050 00:50:30,368 --> 00:50:31,908 and to film there. 1051 00:50:32,008 --> 00:50:34,008 [music continues] 1052 00:50:36,048 --> 00:50:39,768 [men singing in Indigenous language] 1053 00:50:41,128 --> 00:50:42,828 We're shooting corroboree tonight 1054 00:50:42,928 --> 00:50:45,748 and these boys here, you know, like local people 1055 00:50:45,848 --> 00:50:52,429 and especially old man there, he on the Kakadu National Park 1056 00:50:52,529 --> 00:50:55,309 and this is his songs. 1057 00:50:55,409 --> 00:50:57,909 So I join in and dance with them. 1058 00:50:58,009 --> 00:51:00,009 [Indigenous music continues] 1059 00:51:05,809 --> 00:51:07,809 [music ends] 1060 00:51:09,169 --> 00:51:14,789 Well, yes, this is part of where Paul and I and the girl, 1061 00:51:14,889 --> 00:51:17,029 you know, Mick and Sue, 1062 00:51:17,129 --> 00:51:20,909 where I meet them and talk to them and I say, 1063 00:51:21,009 --> 00:51:25,029 "I'm on my way to corroboree over at the Jabba." You know? 1064 00:51:25,129 --> 00:51:27,230 - That what you were doing? - That's what I was doing. 1065 00:51:27,330 --> 00:51:29,330 [both chuckle] 1066 00:51:29,890 --> 00:51:34,990 Well, Neville, he's a tribal and father was a tribal 1067 00:51:35,090 --> 00:51:37,670 and... but he's a city boy. 1068 00:51:37,770 --> 00:51:42,310 He there, you know... [laughs] Yeah. 1069 00:51:42,410 --> 00:51:44,770 - [interviewer] Not like you. - Well, something like me, yeah. 1070 00:51:44,850 --> 00:51:46,590 [both laugh] 1071 00:51:46,690 --> 00:51:48,910 [David] Well, I like dancing corroboree 1072 00:51:49,010 --> 00:51:52,510 and, you know, when I come back home, go to bush, 1073 00:51:52,610 --> 00:51:55,430 make corroboree and dance, have a big campfire, 1074 00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:56,750 I enjoy it. 1075 00:51:56,850 --> 00:51:58,990 It's different from the city in disco, eh? 1076 00:51:59,090 --> 00:52:00,670 - What do you reckon? - John Travolta. 1077 00:52:00,770 --> 00:52:02,770 Yeah, right. 1078 00:52:03,090 --> 00:52:06,031 - [David laughs] - Seen him in the white suit. 1079 00:52:06,131 --> 00:52:07,751 Yeah, right. 1080 00:52:07,851 --> 00:52:09,751 Well, that's my uniform there, look. 1081 00:52:09,851 --> 00:52:12,211 [Paul] Oh, yeah. Studio 54 in New York. 1082 00:52:14,051 --> 00:52:18,311 Paul Hogan is really character. 1083 00:52:18,411 --> 00:52:22,711 He's really sort of into it, blackfellas. 1084 00:52:22,811 --> 00:52:26,511 He came to see and meet blackfellas there, 1085 00:52:26,611 --> 00:52:28,391 my mob, 1086 00:52:28,491 --> 00:52:31,351 and he talked to them, "Can we make this film?" 1087 00:52:31,451 --> 00:52:34,051 And we done it and everyone agreed... 1088 00:52:35,931 --> 00:52:37,711 "David Gulpilil got to be here." 1089 00:52:37,811 --> 00:52:41,071 And said, "Yes, come up," they reckon. "Yes. Good." 1090 00:52:41,171 --> 00:52:46,992 And fitted to me and to other Aboriginal people 1091 00:52:47,092 --> 00:52:50,232 where we was dancing and singing. 1092 00:52:50,332 --> 00:52:53,632 Yeah, that was real stuff. 1093 00:52:53,732 --> 00:52:57,012 [Indigenous singing and music playing] 1094 00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:46,713 [in English] With my full, initiated painting, 1095 00:53:46,813 --> 00:53:48,513 dancing. 1096 00:53:48,613 --> 00:53:51,173 [Indigenous music continues] 1097 00:53:58,813 --> 00:54:03,274 Crocodile Dundee is a good film but it's too short for me. 1098 00:54:03,374 --> 00:54:07,714 Mark it. 161, take two cameras A and B. 1099 00:54:07,814 --> 00:54:10,954 Very good, thank you. Terrific. 1100 00:54:11,054 --> 00:54:13,494 It's the candid camera creepos. 1101 00:54:15,094 --> 00:54:17,994 Wanna see what's inside my mouth, Jonno? 1102 00:54:18,094 --> 00:54:20,114 [Linda chuckles] 1103 00:54:20,214 --> 00:54:22,454 Just 32 perfect teeth. 1104 00:54:23,214 --> 00:54:25,034 [Peter] It was a tight schedule. 1105 00:54:25,134 --> 00:54:27,554 We went from the outback to New York 1106 00:54:27,654 --> 00:54:31,034 and we were filming basically the next day 1107 00:54:31,134 --> 00:54:33,314 after we got off the flight in New York. 1108 00:54:33,414 --> 00:54:36,134 [traffic blaring] 1109 00:54:38,934 --> 00:54:40,935 [siren wailing] 1110 00:54:45,255 --> 00:54:47,315 [Linda] New York was much more challenging 1111 00:54:47,415 --> 00:54:49,395 to shoot than the outback. 1112 00:54:49,495 --> 00:54:52,675 The outback was perfect. It was quiet and isolated. 1113 00:54:52,775 --> 00:54:55,795 And suddenly there were, you know, 1114 00:54:55,895 --> 00:54:57,715 people everywhere and extras, 1115 00:54:57,815 --> 00:55:00,675 and after work everybody would go off and do their own thing, 1116 00:55:00,775 --> 00:55:02,475 and it was New York City - what the heck? 1117 00:55:02,575 --> 00:55:06,475 And so it was great to be back, 1118 00:55:06,575 --> 00:55:08,435 but it was also a little more challenging. 1119 00:55:08,535 --> 00:55:09,795 [man] Action, Paul. 1120 00:55:09,895 --> 00:55:11,675 [Linda] You had to really, like, double down 1121 00:55:11,775 --> 00:55:14,875 to focus more because there were so many distractions 1122 00:55:14,975 --> 00:55:16,975 going on around us. 1123 00:55:17,615 --> 00:55:19,396 [Peter] The sound guys who were working 1124 00:55:19,496 --> 00:55:21,396 in the silence of the outback 1125 00:55:21,496 --> 00:55:23,716 were suddenly on Fifth Avenue 1126 00:55:23,816 --> 00:55:28,476 with this extraordinary cacophony of noise. 1127 00:55:28,576 --> 00:55:31,036 All the directions were shouted, 1128 00:55:31,136 --> 00:55:33,436 so everybody had to talk louder. 1129 00:55:33,536 --> 00:55:35,276 471, take three! 1130 00:55:35,376 --> 00:55:38,316 Got to be walking as I set you up in the back. 1131 00:55:38,416 --> 00:55:39,836 If you're not with the film, 1132 00:55:39,936 --> 00:55:41,516 please do not stop and hang out. 1133 00:55:41,616 --> 00:55:44,696 We're throwing the beans, and action! 1134 00:55:51,416 --> 00:55:53,356 [Paul] Well, a lot of what I did with him 1135 00:55:53,456 --> 00:55:56,196 when I invented him was I made him 1136 00:55:56,296 --> 00:56:00,077 what I'd found that Americans thought about Australians. 1137 00:56:00,177 --> 00:56:01,637 This is the image they have, 1138 00:56:01,737 --> 00:56:04,397 and it's colourful, about Australia, so that was... 1139 00:56:04,497 --> 00:56:06,557 They sort of were responsible 1140 00:56:06,657 --> 00:56:09,137 for making him like he was, yeah. 1141 00:56:10,457 --> 00:56:12,697 Mick Dundee's room, please. 1142 00:56:13,297 --> 00:56:15,317 [Linda] I really, really want to give Norma - 1143 00:56:15,417 --> 00:56:17,517 the late, beautiful, wonderful Norma Moriceau - 1144 00:56:17,617 --> 00:56:19,277 a big shoutout 1145 00:56:19,377 --> 00:56:24,317 because, first of all, I think that she gave that movie 1146 00:56:24,417 --> 00:56:26,457 a touch of cool. 1147 00:56:27,977 --> 00:56:31,477 I mean, I can't imagine Mick Dundee without that hat. 1148 00:56:31,577 --> 00:56:32,997 That's iconic. 1149 00:56:33,097 --> 00:56:36,118 And the lizard-skin jacket, 1150 00:56:36,218 --> 00:56:39,258 I mean, that was a superhero costume. 1151 00:56:40,858 --> 00:56:43,758 The red dress also is iconic. 1152 00:56:43,858 --> 00:56:46,358 I was freaked out about the red dress because I was like, 1153 00:56:46,458 --> 00:56:49,518 "Oh, no, my character would not wear this dress. 1154 00:56:49,618 --> 00:56:51,038 "I'm so sorry. 1155 00:56:51,138 --> 00:56:54,198 "She's supposed to be wealthy and raised in New York City." 1156 00:56:54,298 --> 00:56:58,438 And Norma and I went shopping and we picked out a black... 1157 00:56:58,538 --> 00:57:01,258 I can remember - it was a black Norma Kamali dress. 1158 00:57:02,138 --> 00:57:04,358 It was form fitting but it was very elegant. 1159 00:57:04,458 --> 00:57:07,078 And we came and showed it to John and Paul 1160 00:57:07,178 --> 00:57:09,178 and they were like... 1161 00:57:10,098 --> 00:57:11,398 [laughs] 1162 00:57:11,498 --> 00:57:13,518 We were like, "You don't like it?" 1163 00:57:13,618 --> 00:57:17,159 And Norma said, "They told me it has to be much sexier." 1164 00:57:17,259 --> 00:57:19,839 And she's like, "Okay, I'll give you sexy." 1165 00:57:19,939 --> 00:57:24,079 She used to say, "Over the top is the only place to be." 1166 00:57:24,179 --> 00:57:26,039 [chuckles] 1167 00:57:26,139 --> 00:57:28,559 Incidentally, miss, if you're looking for Crocodile Mick, 1168 00:57:28,659 --> 00:57:30,659 he's gone walkabout. 1169 00:57:31,099 --> 00:57:32,879 I don't suppose you know where? 1170 00:57:32,979 --> 00:57:35,239 Yeah, he's headed for the subway, two blocks down. 1171 00:57:35,339 --> 00:57:37,279 You better hurry. 1172 00:57:37,379 --> 00:57:39,039 Mind this for me. 1173 00:57:39,139 --> 00:57:45,679 The composer tends to be somebody who sees a film 1174 00:57:45,779 --> 00:57:49,199 more often than just about anybody else. 1175 00:57:49,299 --> 00:57:53,560 I start off by, I suppose, thinking, 1176 00:57:53,660 --> 00:57:55,920 "What does this film need?" 1177 00:57:56,020 --> 00:58:00,560 [edgy rhythmic film score plays] 1178 00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:02,200 And I came up with that... 1179 00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:05,120 [mimics edgy rhythm] 1180 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:07,960 There's no music, there's just rhythm. 1181 00:58:08,060 --> 00:58:11,200 And it all developed from there. 1182 00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:13,780 [film score continues] 1183 00:58:16,220 --> 00:58:20,480 The subway, and you kind of get swept through 1184 00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:24,320 as she's running, taking her shoes off. 1185 00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:29,800 And just that contrast between the urgency 1186 00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:32,121 that she's showing... 1187 00:58:32,221 --> 00:58:34,481 [film score continues] 1188 00:58:34,581 --> 00:58:42,281 ..and Mick's laconic kind of, "I'm going off to see America." 1189 00:58:42,381 --> 00:58:46,141 It's that kind of juxtaposition that makes that work. 1190 00:58:47,141 --> 00:58:49,841 Tell him I love him. 1191 00:58:49,941 --> 00:58:51,941 I love you! 1192 00:58:52,861 --> 00:58:54,841 She loves me. 1193 00:58:54,941 --> 00:58:59,561 I thought if I could crack that, 1194 00:58:59,661 --> 00:59:05,041 then I could confidently launch into the rest of the film. 1195 00:59:05,141 --> 00:59:06,601 [wondrous film score plays] 1196 00:59:06,701 --> 00:59:09,001 It felt to me in Crocodile Dundee 1197 00:59:09,101 --> 00:59:14,242 as if I had to tell the story as well as they had told it. 1198 00:59:14,342 --> 00:59:16,342 And I didn't stuff it up. 1199 00:59:17,902 --> 00:59:19,322 You got a light, buddy? 1200 00:59:19,422 --> 00:59:21,602 Yeah, sure, kid. 1201 00:59:21,702 --> 00:59:23,402 There you go. 1202 00:59:23,502 --> 00:59:25,122 And your wallet. 1203 00:59:25,222 --> 00:59:26,442 [edgy film score] 1204 00:59:26,542 --> 00:59:29,002 Mick, give him your wallet. 1205 00:59:29,102 --> 00:59:30,322 What for? 1206 00:59:30,422 --> 00:59:32,082 He's got a knife. 1207 00:59:32,182 --> 00:59:34,242 [laughs] 1208 00:59:34,342 --> 00:59:35,922 That's not a knife. 1209 00:59:36,022 --> 00:59:38,022 [edgy score continues] 1210 00:59:38,702 --> 00:59:40,702 That's a knife. 1211 00:59:41,262 --> 00:59:43,262 - [knife clatters] - [fabric rips] 1212 00:59:44,382 --> 00:59:46,122 [Delvene] "That's not a knife." 1213 00:59:46,222 --> 00:59:47,922 That's a great story, actually. 1214 00:59:48,022 --> 00:59:50,723 We edited Crocodile Dundee 1215 00:59:50,823 --> 00:59:55,243 and John was watching the rushes with the editor 1216 00:59:55,343 --> 00:59:57,403 trying to piece that together 1217 00:59:57,503 --> 00:59:59,763 and they had three or four takes. 1218 00:59:59,863 --> 01:00:02,323 It was like, "No, no, there's another take. 1219 01:00:02,423 --> 01:00:05,443 "There's another take. There's a better take." 1220 01:00:05,543 --> 01:00:07,283 And we couldn't find it. 1221 01:00:07,383 --> 01:00:10,163 And he knew that it was the take that Paul had done 1222 01:00:10,263 --> 01:00:12,403 after Peter Faiman had said, "Cut." 1223 01:00:12,503 --> 01:00:14,643 And Paul kept playing around 1224 01:00:14,743 --> 01:00:17,083 with this young kid who was the mugger 1225 01:00:17,183 --> 01:00:19,283 and he had this glint in his eye, 1226 01:00:19,383 --> 01:00:21,683 and John had recognised that. 1227 01:00:21,783 --> 01:00:24,443 And it was like that because it was after... 1228 01:00:24,543 --> 01:00:26,083 the pressure was off of filming. 1229 01:00:26,183 --> 01:00:27,484 Like, "Cut." You know? 1230 01:00:27,584 --> 01:00:29,404 "Okay, I want to have a bit of a play." 1231 01:00:29,504 --> 01:00:32,164 And it was in the editing room bin 1232 01:00:32,264 --> 01:00:36,044 and John fished it out and put that scene in the film, 1233 01:00:36,144 --> 01:00:38,444 and that is the scene of the film. 1234 01:00:38,544 --> 01:00:40,244 So I love that story - 1235 01:00:40,344 --> 01:00:43,084 it was that John knew what Hoges had delivered 1236 01:00:43,184 --> 01:00:45,444 as Mick Dundee in that moment 1237 01:00:45,544 --> 01:00:48,044 and knew that it was there somewhere 1238 01:00:48,144 --> 01:00:51,304 and was intent on putting it in because that was the take. 1239 01:00:56,144 --> 01:00:58,084 [reporter] Hogan and John Cornell set out 1240 01:00:58,184 --> 01:01:00,524 to make a popular entertaining movie, 1241 01:01:00,624 --> 01:01:03,124 and at the crowded premiere in Sydney this week, 1242 01:01:03,224 --> 01:01:04,844 there was an irresistible feeling 1243 01:01:04,944 --> 01:01:06,945 of confidence in the air. 1244 01:01:08,745 --> 01:01:11,085 Cornell believes he's backed a winner. 1245 01:01:11,185 --> 01:01:13,205 Were you so confident that Crocodile Dundee 1246 01:01:13,305 --> 01:01:15,285 was going to work? 1247 01:01:15,385 --> 01:01:18,605 Um... well, they say films are a gamble, 1248 01:01:18,705 --> 01:01:20,205 but in this case I knew the horse 1249 01:01:20,305 --> 01:01:22,085 and the horse talks to me. 1250 01:01:22,185 --> 01:01:25,765 And, uh... I've got great faith in Hogan, 1251 01:01:25,865 --> 01:01:28,285 always have had and probably always will have. 1252 01:01:28,385 --> 01:01:31,045 The guy's not a hero. He's a human. 1253 01:01:31,145 --> 01:01:32,765 Well, he's just a larrikin. 1254 01:01:32,865 --> 01:01:34,605 But, you know, it's a good fun film. 1255 01:01:34,705 --> 01:01:36,325 Where did he come from? 1256 01:01:36,425 --> 01:01:39,105 Out of there and out of the Northern Territory. 1257 01:01:46,426 --> 01:01:47,986 As soon as it got released in Australia, 1258 01:01:48,066 --> 01:01:49,886 it was just through the roof. 1259 01:01:49,986 --> 01:01:53,766 Hoyts were exhibiting, so we were getting the numbers 1260 01:01:53,866 --> 01:01:56,626 and the numbers were unprecedented. 1261 01:02:01,866 --> 01:02:05,246 Once we got through the first three weeks, 1262 01:02:05,346 --> 01:02:06,966 I didn't worry anymore. 1263 01:02:07,066 --> 01:02:08,606 We knew the mums and dads were safe. 1264 01:02:08,706 --> 01:02:10,486 The people who invested in Crocodile Dundee 1265 01:02:10,586 --> 01:02:12,806 will get four or five or six times their money back. 1266 01:02:12,906 --> 01:02:14,526 They really did care about those people 1267 01:02:14,626 --> 01:02:16,246 who put their $5,000 and $10,000 in. 1268 01:02:16,346 --> 01:02:18,346 That was serious investment for them. 1269 01:02:22,627 --> 01:02:24,627 Here's to Crocodile Dundee! 1270 01:02:25,827 --> 01:02:29,027 We released the film, and it was just blockbuster. 1271 01:02:29,827 --> 01:02:33,807 Biggest Australian movie, but by a long stretch. 1272 01:02:33,907 --> 01:02:37,827 We had a dynamite movie. Now what do we do with it? 1273 01:02:38,347 --> 01:02:41,167 The ultimate test is to sell it in America. 1274 01:02:41,267 --> 01:02:44,007 US was the biggest market. 1275 01:02:44,107 --> 01:02:46,367 In our case, I said they can't take... 1276 01:02:46,467 --> 01:02:50,287 no one takes the movie anywhere until Australia releases, 1277 01:02:50,387 --> 01:02:53,047 because I know it's going to be a big hit 1278 01:02:53,147 --> 01:02:55,227 and then the Americans will come chase us. 1279 01:02:55,867 --> 01:02:58,207 [Delvene] So John didn't want to do any presales 1280 01:02:58,307 --> 01:03:02,208 because he had so much faith in that film 1281 01:03:02,308 --> 01:03:04,008 and self-belief 1282 01:03:04,108 --> 01:03:08,568 that he took it to America under his arm. 1283 01:03:08,668 --> 01:03:12,848 First studio, 20th Century Fox, knocked it back. 1284 01:03:12,948 --> 01:03:14,608 The guy barely watched it. 1285 01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:19,528 And finally he got to Paramount, 1286 01:03:19,628 --> 01:03:24,088 and he went there because he loved their gates. [laughs] 1287 01:03:24,188 --> 01:03:26,328 In through the big fancy gates 1288 01:03:26,428 --> 01:03:28,428 and into Barry London's office. 1289 01:03:31,228 --> 01:03:33,408 The first meeting I had with John 1290 01:03:33,508 --> 01:03:36,848 was at the studio right after I'd seen Crocodile Dundee 1291 01:03:36,948 --> 01:03:38,948 and the first words that I remember speaking to him 1292 01:03:39,028 --> 01:03:40,489 was, "I love your movie." 1293 01:03:40,589 --> 01:03:42,369 Which is the line that you want to hear 1294 01:03:42,469 --> 01:03:45,609 from a distributor, 1295 01:03:45,709 --> 01:03:48,329 but they weren't quite sure how it was going to go. 1296 01:03:48,429 --> 01:03:51,049 And so John said, "Well, I've had it audience tested." 1297 01:03:51,149 --> 01:03:54,609 If you test a film and the audience says it's good, 1298 01:03:54,709 --> 01:03:56,289 the film's a failure. 1299 01:03:56,389 --> 01:03:58,049 The audience, when you test a film, 1300 01:03:58,149 --> 01:04:00,409 have to say, "It is absolutely fantastic, 1301 01:04:00,509 --> 01:04:01,969 "the best thing I've ever seen." 1302 01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:03,329 Then you've got success. 1303 01:04:03,429 --> 01:04:06,089 We had it researched in America. 1304 01:04:06,189 --> 01:04:07,929 Most producers don't do this, 1305 01:04:08,029 --> 01:04:10,529 but I thought it might be a plus for the selling of it. 1306 01:04:10,629 --> 01:04:12,609 So instead of having them research it, 1307 01:04:12,709 --> 01:04:15,529 I paid for the research myself this week. 1308 01:04:15,629 --> 01:04:17,869 And I won't bore you with the details about what happens, 1309 01:04:17,909 --> 01:04:23,090 but we got a 59 on this complicated input 1310 01:04:23,190 --> 01:04:27,810 of showing it to a couple of thousand people in audience. 1311 01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:29,970 The average is a 43. 1312 01:04:30,070 --> 01:04:32,970 That 59 has meant people like, well, Frank Mancuso, 1313 01:04:33,070 --> 01:04:34,650 the president of Paramount Pictures, 1314 01:04:34,750 --> 01:04:36,750 got on the phone to the guy who'd done the research 1315 01:04:36,790 --> 01:04:39,850 and said, "Is this correct that this movie cracked the 59?" 1316 01:04:39,950 --> 01:04:44,250 He knew that, you know, we eat the same food as Americans, 1317 01:04:44,350 --> 01:04:46,810 we watch the same movies, we drive the same cars, 1318 01:04:46,910 --> 01:04:50,010 listen to the same music, watch the same TV shows. 1319 01:04:50,110 --> 01:04:53,370 They're our brothers, so they're going to get it. 1320 01:04:53,470 --> 01:04:56,290 All of a sudden, Paramount are all bright eyed and bushy tail. 1321 01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:58,651 "We've done this testing..." "This looks pretty good!" 1322 01:04:58,751 --> 01:05:01,211 And it was right up there with like Top Gun, 1323 01:05:01,311 --> 01:05:02,811 and they were surprised by that. 1324 01:05:02,911 --> 01:05:04,531 And, "Where did you get it tested?" 1325 01:05:04,631 --> 01:05:06,731 "Well, I went to the same company that you use." 1326 01:05:06,831 --> 01:05:08,491 [giggles] 1327 01:05:08,591 --> 01:05:11,531 And we all kind of looked at each other and said, 1328 01:05:11,631 --> 01:05:15,211 "Wow! This is really good stuff, really good stuff." 1329 01:05:15,311 --> 01:05:17,011 And from that moment on, 1330 01:05:17,111 --> 01:05:20,931 our enthusiasm, that kind of enthusiasm was apparent 1331 01:05:21,031 --> 01:05:24,291 and we never lost it. 1332 01:05:24,391 --> 01:05:26,411 Paul picked up on it, John picked up on it, 1333 01:05:26,511 --> 01:05:28,171 and off we went. 1334 01:05:28,271 --> 01:05:30,551 - [upbeat synthesiser music] - [traffic blaring] 1335 01:05:35,832 --> 01:05:37,892 [Delvene] The US press went mad. 1336 01:05:37,992 --> 01:05:40,292 Paramount had Linda and Paul on talk shows 1337 01:05:40,392 --> 01:05:42,392 all over the country. 1338 01:05:46,352 --> 01:05:51,332 We opened in 500 theatres and this word of mouth got around. 1339 01:05:51,432 --> 01:05:53,492 [American man] Crocodile Dundee - sold out. 1340 01:05:53,592 --> 01:05:56,132 Like a comic book superhero. I loved it. I loved it. 1341 01:05:56,232 --> 01:05:59,892 He's cute and he's charming and you... I don't know! 1342 01:05:59,992 --> 01:06:02,612 When he's about to get mugged, right, and he says, 1343 01:06:02,712 --> 01:06:04,572 "Now that's a knife," that was scary. 1344 01:06:04,672 --> 01:06:06,448 And he pulls out his big machete and he starts 1345 01:06:06,472 --> 01:06:07,732 waving it around. 1346 01:06:07,832 --> 01:06:11,332 Of course I think he's sexy! That's why I came tonight. 1347 01:06:11,432 --> 01:06:15,153 Well, the money just came in in a wave. 1348 01:06:16,593 --> 01:06:18,833 8.8 million the first week... 1349 01:06:20,553 --> 01:06:22,553 ..19 the second week... 1350 01:06:23,473 --> 01:06:25,053 ..28 the third week, 1351 01:06:25,153 --> 01:06:27,153 and then look out! 1352 01:06:28,233 --> 01:06:30,233 It was a runaway train. 1353 01:06:30,593 --> 01:06:33,053 And I went, "Yes!" 1354 01:06:33,153 --> 01:06:34,933 We had a movie that was sensational. 1355 01:06:35,033 --> 01:06:36,653 Didn't matter that we never heard of 1356 01:06:36,753 --> 01:06:38,653 Paul Hogan at that point, 1357 01:06:38,753 --> 01:06:41,293 and it didn't matter that it was an Australian film. 1358 01:06:41,393 --> 01:06:43,733 What it was was a terrific Australian film 1359 01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:45,833 with some guy called Paul Hogan. 1360 01:06:47,673 --> 01:06:51,233 [Denis] Crocodile Dundee in the States ran for six months. 1361 01:06:52,714 --> 01:06:54,894 It's only in USA, Canada and Australia. 1362 01:06:54,994 --> 01:06:57,054 We've got the rest of the world to go yet. 1363 01:06:57,154 --> 01:06:58,374 [audience laughing] 1364 01:06:58,474 --> 01:07:00,894 [Paul] But I'd have been happy if was a hit 1365 01:07:00,994 --> 01:07:03,174 in Australia and in the UK. 1366 01:07:03,274 --> 01:07:05,254 I didn't know it was going to be a hit in Israel 1367 01:07:05,354 --> 01:07:09,214 and Switzerland and Mexico. 1368 01:07:09,314 --> 01:07:11,414 [chuckles] And it was. 1369 01:07:11,514 --> 01:07:14,534 [Delvene] Crocodile Dundee released all around the world. 1370 01:07:14,634 --> 01:07:17,754 It was a global sensation. 1371 01:07:25,834 --> 01:07:30,994 For $8.8 million Australian, we made $328 million. 1372 01:07:32,115 --> 01:07:34,295 You take it over 40 years, 1373 01:07:34,395 --> 01:07:36,615 well, it's gone up about 10 times. 1374 01:07:36,715 --> 01:07:38,855 Let's say seven times. 1375 01:07:38,955 --> 01:07:42,395 So, what'd I say? Seven threes, so that's $2.8 billion. 1376 01:07:44,995 --> 01:07:47,615 Crocodile Dundee is the biggest foreign movie 1377 01:07:47,715 --> 01:07:49,715 in the history of movies. 1378 01:07:50,035 --> 01:07:53,375 It's the biggest movie in the world 1379 01:07:53,475 --> 01:07:56,495 ever made outside of a major studio. 1380 01:07:56,595 --> 01:07:59,295 It was just report after report after report 1381 01:07:59,395 --> 01:08:01,495 saying highest revenue ever, 1382 01:08:01,595 --> 01:08:04,775 biggest box opening ever, ever, ever. 1383 01:08:04,875 --> 01:08:07,535 So there's a lot of biggest "evers" in there. 1384 01:08:07,635 --> 01:08:09,375 In fact, Paul Hogan used to say to me, 1385 01:08:09,475 --> 01:08:11,372 "Don't tell me about how much money it took last weekend - 1386 01:08:11,396 --> 01:08:12,536 "tell me about the evers." 1387 01:08:12,636 --> 01:08:14,416 You just don't know until you do it. 1388 01:08:14,516 --> 01:08:17,736 And Dundee sort of did that, opened the floodgates. 1389 01:08:17,836 --> 01:08:20,216 I think we all knew it was going to be successful, 1390 01:08:20,316 --> 01:08:24,216 but how successful was sort of the question area. 1391 01:08:24,316 --> 01:08:27,336 And it's very successful, which is great. 1392 01:08:27,436 --> 01:08:29,416 And it just sort of crept up. 1393 01:08:29,516 --> 01:08:31,736 And then we went a couple times. 1394 01:08:31,836 --> 01:08:34,736 Groups of us would go and sit in the back row, 1395 01:08:34,836 --> 01:08:36,856 I think in New York and some other places, 1396 01:08:36,956 --> 01:08:39,176 just to watch the audience reaction 1397 01:08:39,276 --> 01:08:42,736 and seeing how into it they were 1398 01:08:42,836 --> 01:08:45,256 and cheering, you know, at the end 1399 01:08:45,356 --> 01:08:47,216 and just really calling out 1400 01:08:47,316 --> 01:08:49,457 and just feeling very so engaged with it. 1401 01:08:49,557 --> 01:08:52,497 We were going, "Oh, this is much bigger 1402 01:08:52,597 --> 01:08:55,397 "than we thought it was going to be, wow." 1403 01:08:57,277 --> 01:08:59,297 [Delvene] The film was nominated for an Oscar 1404 01:08:59,397 --> 01:09:01,397 for Best Original Screenplay. 1405 01:09:03,157 --> 01:09:05,177 [Paul] I enjoyed the Oscar nomination 1406 01:09:05,277 --> 01:09:07,837 because that's made by other writers 1407 01:09:08,517 --> 01:09:10,937 [Delvene] To be nominated for an Oscar, 1408 01:09:11,037 --> 01:09:13,777 if you're talking about pinnacles of acting, directing, 1409 01:09:13,877 --> 01:09:15,817 writing, making films, 1410 01:09:15,917 --> 01:09:17,777 that's what you want. 1411 01:09:17,877 --> 01:09:19,897 That's a recognition. 1412 01:09:19,997 --> 01:09:24,177 Both Linda and Paul received Golden Globe nominations. 1413 01:09:24,277 --> 01:09:27,858 And it is a dream when you're an actor to be recognised. 1414 01:09:27,958 --> 01:09:31,618 You can't imagine that that would ever happen to you. 1415 01:09:31,718 --> 01:09:33,138 It was so funny. 1416 01:09:33,238 --> 01:09:35,618 I got a Golden Globe as the best actor 1417 01:09:35,718 --> 01:09:38,458 and I think the Foreign Press were embarrassed 1418 01:09:38,558 --> 01:09:41,138 when they got to meet me. 1419 01:09:41,238 --> 01:09:45,498 And they said, "It's just him with a hat on," 1420 01:09:45,598 --> 01:09:47,838 was the only difference between me and Dundee. 1421 01:09:49,918 --> 01:09:53,218 And I thought, "I'm not a very good actor." 1422 01:09:53,318 --> 01:09:55,658 Me, I just put on different hats. 1423 01:09:55,758 --> 01:09:58,058 I mean, if you look at sort of Mick Dundee and me, 1424 01:09:58,158 --> 01:10:00,298 I'm convincing as that character, 1425 01:10:00,398 --> 01:10:02,398 but that's it, you know. 1426 01:10:04,478 --> 01:10:06,179 You're not going to find another Paul Hogan 1427 01:10:06,279 --> 01:10:07,299 around the world. 1428 01:10:07,399 --> 01:10:09,019 I mean, Paul Hogan now, 1429 01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:11,019 according to all the executives in Hollywood, 1430 01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:16,539 is in the top two or three box office stars in the world. 1431 01:10:16,639 --> 01:10:21,699 So, luckily, he doesn't have any ego problems 1432 01:10:21,799 --> 01:10:24,019 'cause the last thing we want is for him to be 1433 01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:26,219 walking around thinking that he's Paul Hogan. 1434 01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:28,319 [interviewer chuckles] 1435 01:10:30,839 --> 01:10:33,299 [Terry] Well, Hogan made Crocodile Dundee. 1436 01:10:33,399 --> 01:10:36,099 If Paul Hogan hadn't been born, 1437 01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:39,739 would we have had somebody else play the role 1438 01:10:39,839 --> 01:10:41,379 and do just as well? 1439 01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,479 I don't think so. 1440 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,620 [Delvene] Hoges will tell you himself that 1441 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,420 Mick Dundee is just Hoges in the bush. 1442 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:49,700 [chuckles] 1443 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,536 - You'd be looking at Linda... - Back to the spot. 1444 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,060 Yeah, you'd be walking back the spot. 1445 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,720 I'll be looking cool. I do it every day. 1446 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,380 - Yeah. - Gotcha. 1447 01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:58,940 There was a quality about Mick Dundee 1448 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,840 that every man and woman related to. 1449 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,020 [Linda] And there was something amazing 1450 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:11,980 about this superhero that he was relatable. 1451 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,340 You could see yourself in him. 1452 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:16,700 Like, "Yeah, that's what I would've done if I could." 1453 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,260 You know? 1454 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,420 He wasn't like half man and half bug or... 1455 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,701 [chuckles] You know what I mean? 1456 01:11:23,801 --> 01:11:28,141 Or some, like, metal super guy flying through the sky. 1457 01:11:28,241 --> 01:11:31,421 He was a guy, like a normal guy, 1458 01:11:31,521 --> 01:11:35,381 but he was like a superhero at the same time. 1459 01:11:35,481 --> 01:11:37,981 And he came from a completely different place. 1460 01:11:38,081 --> 01:11:40,421 [whistles melodiously] 1461 01:11:40,521 --> 01:11:42,981 [Delvene] Mick Dundee was so believable 1462 01:11:43,081 --> 01:11:45,981 that people thought he was a real person. [chuckles] 1463 01:11:46,081 --> 01:11:48,181 [whistles melodiously] 1464 01:11:48,281 --> 01:11:50,377 [Paul] The movie wouldn't have worked as well if they'd had 1465 01:11:50,401 --> 01:11:52,221 a big movie star in it. 1466 01:11:52,321 --> 01:11:55,381 Because in most of the world, I was unknown 1467 01:11:55,481 --> 01:11:58,221 and therefore the character became real. 1468 01:11:58,321 --> 01:12:02,222 When I did international press junkets for promotion, 1469 01:12:02,322 --> 01:12:04,022 it was all, "Mr Dundee," 1470 01:12:04,122 --> 01:12:06,582 or, "Can you throw over there, Mick?" 1471 01:12:06,682 --> 01:12:08,682 He was real. 1472 01:12:09,802 --> 01:12:12,222 The last survey the tourism people were doing 1473 01:12:12,322 --> 01:12:14,102 about what people knew about Australia 1474 01:12:14,202 --> 01:12:16,302 and new famous Australians, 1475 01:12:16,402 --> 01:12:18,182 they had, you know, Chris Hemsworth 1476 01:12:18,282 --> 01:12:22,822 and probably Nicole and Margot names on it. 1477 01:12:22,922 --> 01:12:26,662 And on the list, I was fifth most famous Australian. 1478 01:12:26,762 --> 01:12:28,462 I think it was 11th on one of the others, 1479 01:12:28,562 --> 01:12:30,422 and I didn't even make the top 10 or something. 1480 01:12:30,522 --> 01:12:32,582 But who was number one? 1481 01:12:32,682 --> 01:12:34,422 Mick Dundee. 1482 01:12:34,522 --> 01:12:37,822 Was the most famous Australian in every survey they did. 1483 01:12:37,922 --> 01:12:41,263 I thought, "But he's not real. I made him up." 1484 01:12:41,363 --> 01:12:44,523 So I didn't make the list, but he did. [chuckles] 1485 01:12:45,043 --> 01:12:48,063 Paul, it's great to see you in New York. I love your show. 1486 01:12:48,163 --> 01:12:50,303 - You got good taste. - Ah. Thank you. 1487 01:12:50,403 --> 01:12:51,939 - You have a good show. - Very professional. 1488 01:12:51,963 --> 01:12:53,423 [laughs] 1489 01:12:53,523 --> 01:12:56,863 I think it's acknowledged that Paul put Australia on the map. 1490 01:12:56,963 --> 01:12:59,983 It started, of course, with the "shrimp on the barbecue" stuff 1491 01:13:00,083 --> 01:13:04,003 and then it was compounded by Crocodile Dundee. 1492 01:13:05,283 --> 01:13:09,383 In America, the Australian accent, 1493 01:13:09,483 --> 01:13:13,223 suddenly - I really believe this - 1494 01:13:13,323 --> 01:13:15,323 suddenly became acceptable. 1495 01:13:15,683 --> 01:13:16,823 Um... 1496 01:13:16,923 --> 01:13:18,700 [imitates Australian accent] No worries, mate. 1497 01:13:18,724 --> 01:13:20,184 [Peter] He made it very, very clear 1498 01:13:20,284 --> 01:13:22,224 that we're a nice lot of people. 1499 01:13:22,324 --> 01:13:24,784 We're fun, we're ordinary, we're not strangers. 1500 01:13:24,884 --> 01:13:27,104 [Peter on set] I'll get somebody on the case. 1501 01:13:27,204 --> 01:13:29,204 You want that? I'll fix it. 1502 01:13:29,844 --> 01:13:32,984 The relationship that exists between John and Paul 1503 01:13:33,084 --> 01:13:35,024 and it comes out as something special and unique 1504 01:13:35,124 --> 01:13:36,304 as we talked about earlier. 1505 01:13:36,404 --> 01:13:38,144 And I think from that standpoint, 1506 01:13:38,244 --> 01:13:40,384 they offer a freshness 1507 01:13:40,484 --> 01:13:43,184 and - something that is really special in this business - 1508 01:13:43,284 --> 01:13:44,544 a loyalty. 1509 01:13:44,644 --> 01:13:47,464 I have one more thing to add to that. 1510 01:13:47,564 --> 01:13:52,064 Both of those guys are really nice guys. 1511 01:13:52,164 --> 01:13:54,944 In addition to being terrific filmmakers, 1512 01:13:55,044 --> 01:13:57,045 they're really nice people. 1513 01:13:59,845 --> 01:14:01,421 [Bill] I think for all of us in Australia, 1514 01:14:01,445 --> 01:14:03,505 this idea of what you can and can't do 1515 01:14:03,605 --> 01:14:05,825 was well and truly kicked down the street 1516 01:14:05,925 --> 01:14:08,425 because what they took on and what they achieved 1517 01:14:08,525 --> 01:14:10,565 was so impossible. 1518 01:14:14,165 --> 01:14:15,905 Crocodile Dundee has been described 1519 01:14:16,005 --> 01:14:17,945 as lightning in a bottle. 1520 01:14:18,045 --> 01:14:20,865 So, how does that come about? 1521 01:14:20,965 --> 01:14:23,185 That's the magical collaboration 1522 01:14:23,285 --> 01:14:27,065 of all of those incredible people on the crew, 1523 01:14:27,165 --> 01:14:28,785 as well as John and Paul, 1524 01:14:28,885 --> 01:14:30,945 is that something happens. 1525 01:14:31,045 --> 01:14:32,785 There's a... 1526 01:14:32,885 --> 01:14:35,065 It's like a cauldron brewing. 1527 01:14:35,165 --> 01:14:38,806 All the ingredients go in, and then magic happens. 1528 01:14:41,766 --> 01:14:44,466 And then you have to contain it. 1529 01:14:44,566 --> 01:14:48,786 And I think there was just so much potential with that film 1530 01:14:48,886 --> 01:14:51,106 that it was like lightning in a bottle - 1531 01:14:51,206 --> 01:14:52,826 it's just needing to get out! 1532 01:14:52,926 --> 01:14:54,926 You know, and then it got out. 1533 01:14:57,286 --> 01:14:59,066 [Linda] For sure, the energy of the film, 1534 01:14:59,166 --> 01:15:00,866 the newness of the film... 1535 01:15:00,966 --> 01:15:04,346 It was a comedy, it was a romantic comedy, 1536 01:15:04,446 --> 01:15:06,866 but it was also, like, one of the big adventure movies. 1537 01:15:06,966 --> 01:15:08,966 You had incredible scenery. 1538 01:15:10,366 --> 01:15:12,062 [David Gyngell] It's like one of those films 1539 01:15:12,086 --> 01:15:13,786 that they keep showing to say, 1540 01:15:13,886 --> 01:15:15,587 why is this an outstanding success? 1541 01:15:15,687 --> 01:15:17,867 And kind of everyone gets it. 1542 01:15:17,967 --> 01:15:21,147 The warmth and the normal traditional beats 1543 01:15:21,247 --> 01:15:24,547 of a hero, fish out of water. 1544 01:15:24,647 --> 01:15:27,467 For me, I felt very much a fish in water. 1545 01:15:27,567 --> 01:15:29,627 The crew was incredible. 1546 01:15:29,727 --> 01:15:32,387 Everybody's attitude was just so great 1547 01:15:32,487 --> 01:15:35,267 and we had this common goal of just getting it right 1548 01:15:35,367 --> 01:15:37,387 and making it right and making it work. 1549 01:15:37,487 --> 01:15:39,107 And, you know, saying, "What about this? 1550 01:15:39,207 --> 01:15:40,927 "What about that? Oh, that's kind of stra... " 1551 01:15:40,967 --> 01:15:43,787 And so... I was in my element in a way. 1552 01:15:43,887 --> 01:15:48,967 And everybody's enthusiasm as well was very inspiring. 1553 01:15:50,967 --> 01:15:53,308 I think it was a combination of all those things 1554 01:15:53,408 --> 01:15:55,188 that John, again, 1555 01:15:55,288 --> 01:15:59,628 making the working place such a great place - 1556 01:15:59,728 --> 01:16:02,408 it made people want to do better. 1557 01:16:03,248 --> 01:16:06,468 They felt those good vibes, you know, 1558 01:16:06,568 --> 01:16:08,908 and it permeated the set 1559 01:16:09,008 --> 01:16:12,028 and I think in the end it permeated the screen. 1560 01:16:12,128 --> 01:16:14,128 It came right out into the audience. 1561 01:16:18,008 --> 01:16:21,988 John always thought, right from the scene one, 1562 01:16:22,088 --> 01:16:24,188 "This is going to work, this is going to be a hit." 1563 01:16:24,288 --> 01:16:25,868 I don't think anyone else did - 1564 01:16:25,968 --> 01:16:27,868 not to the extent he believed it. 1565 01:16:27,968 --> 01:16:30,828 Belief in himself and belief in me more than I had. 1566 01:16:30,928 --> 01:16:33,109 [chuckles] Sort of. 1567 01:16:33,209 --> 01:16:36,149 He's got the magic ingredient that stars have in them, 1568 01:16:36,249 --> 01:16:40,549 and he doesn't only have it for this country 1569 01:16:40,649 --> 01:16:42,309 but for overseas as well. 1570 01:16:42,409 --> 01:16:44,149 It's very hard to define, mate. 1571 01:16:44,249 --> 01:16:46,749 I think he's got a few ingredients 1572 01:16:46,849 --> 01:16:48,749 that we're not even sure about ourselves. 1573 01:16:48,849 --> 01:16:50,269 [man] Rehearsal it is! 1574 01:16:50,369 --> 01:16:52,369 [chatter on set] 1575 01:16:53,649 --> 01:16:57,589 [Delvene] They were so attuned, John and Paul. 1576 01:16:57,689 --> 01:16:59,789 They never finished each other's sentences or stuff, 1577 01:16:59,889 --> 01:17:02,809 but their thoughts were, like, in the ether at the same time. 1578 01:17:05,729 --> 01:17:07,629 Not quite telepathic, 1579 01:17:07,729 --> 01:17:09,589 but so on the same wavelength. 1580 01:17:09,689 --> 01:17:11,310 Is it the line that's worrying you? 1581 01:17:11,410 --> 01:17:12,910 - The dialogue? - It's the dialogue. 1582 01:17:13,010 --> 01:17:14,310 The... [garbled scream] 1583 01:17:14,410 --> 01:17:16,490 - That's the one, yeah. - [John chuckles] 1584 01:17:17,250 --> 01:17:19,550 I guess I could say they were blood brothers. 1585 01:17:19,650 --> 01:17:21,630 They were so comfortable with each other. 1586 01:17:21,730 --> 01:17:22,790 They were so in sync. 1587 01:17:22,890 --> 01:17:24,190 What should I be thinking? 1588 01:17:24,290 --> 01:17:25,590 It's time? 1589 01:17:25,690 --> 01:17:27,830 Fall off the building, I'm hanging on the ledge... 1590 01:17:27,930 --> 01:17:29,470 It just won't come to me. 1591 01:17:29,570 --> 01:17:31,790 Think about the coathanger, mate. 1592 01:17:31,890 --> 01:17:34,370 - [Paul] Oh, the old coathanger? - The old coathanger. 1593 01:17:35,490 --> 01:17:38,830 [Linda] They just could look at each other and know, 1594 01:17:38,930 --> 01:17:41,950 and they really had the same ideas 1595 01:17:42,050 --> 01:17:45,290 and the same feelings about so many things. 1596 01:17:45,770 --> 01:17:47,870 We've got sort of a bit of a mental umbilical cord 1597 01:17:47,970 --> 01:17:49,631 between us creatively anyway, 1598 01:17:49,731 --> 01:17:52,711 so that's the easiest part with Paul. 1599 01:17:52,811 --> 01:17:54,391 You don't have to direct him anyway. 1600 01:17:54,491 --> 01:17:56,227 You just say, "You got a fly on ya face, mate." 1601 01:17:56,251 --> 01:17:58,251 That's about all you need to say to him. 1602 01:17:59,371 --> 01:18:03,311 [Delvene] They were so both coupled with their values 1603 01:18:03,411 --> 01:18:05,151 and principles and philosophies 1604 01:18:05,251 --> 01:18:07,351 and attitude to life, 1605 01:18:07,451 --> 01:18:09,871 that whatever they did together, 1606 01:18:09,971 --> 01:18:13,951 they did symbiotically to the point where 1607 01:18:14,051 --> 01:18:17,311 they were like soul brothers for eternity. 1608 01:18:17,411 --> 01:18:20,191 Just this incredible connection 1609 01:18:20,291 --> 01:18:23,831 from two opposing backgrounds, really. 1610 01:18:23,931 --> 01:18:26,831 But so like-minded, despite that. 1611 01:18:26,931 --> 01:18:31,352 That, to me, that was rare. 1612 01:18:31,452 --> 01:18:33,352 - [laughs] - Sometimes you're embarrassed 1613 01:18:33,452 --> 01:18:34,912 when we try and do this candid stuff. 1614 01:18:35,012 --> 01:18:36,392 Just relax. 1615 01:18:36,492 --> 01:18:38,712 At least we can cut out whatever we don't like. 1616 01:18:38,812 --> 01:18:40,912 Yeah, that's right. We edit this. 1617 01:18:41,012 --> 01:18:43,012 [both chuckle] 1618 01:18:43,692 --> 01:18:45,752 He'd take a bullet for me, John. 1619 01:18:45,852 --> 01:18:47,992 Your financial advisor and business manager 1620 01:18:48,092 --> 01:18:50,432 and entrepreneur is also your best friend? 1621 01:18:50,532 --> 01:18:53,352 It's... it's fabulous. 1622 01:18:53,452 --> 01:18:56,392 I have come to send you to the boilermakers mixed prawn night. 1623 01:18:56,492 --> 01:18:57,632 Me? 1624 01:18:57,732 --> 01:18:59,512 A little wave of the magic four-by-two, 1625 01:18:59,612 --> 01:19:01,152 and you'll look like a million dollars. 1626 01:19:01,252 --> 01:19:03,272 Get on to this. [whistles softly] 1627 01:19:03,372 --> 01:19:05,232 [tinkling music plays] 1628 01:19:05,332 --> 01:19:07,353 [audience laughter] 1629 01:19:07,453 --> 01:19:09,153 [David Gyngell] It's that leap of going 1630 01:19:09,253 --> 01:19:11,473 from being small screen to large screen, 1631 01:19:11,573 --> 01:19:14,353 to local to international. 1632 01:19:14,453 --> 01:19:17,713 I can't off the top of my head, unless you want to remind me, 1633 01:19:17,813 --> 01:19:19,813 think of anyone else who's done that. 1634 01:19:21,373 --> 01:19:24,193 Gravitas, aura, swagger. 1635 01:19:24,293 --> 01:19:26,773 Those guys had it in spades. 1636 01:19:28,253 --> 01:19:30,033 These guys didn't have laneways - 1637 01:19:30,133 --> 01:19:32,553 they just took whole landscapes. 1638 01:19:32,653 --> 01:19:35,373 Then went across it in their way. 1639 01:19:37,653 --> 01:19:40,273 They want to do good. They want to make people laugh. 1640 01:19:40,373 --> 01:19:44,914 It kind of comes from a really simple, nice space 1641 01:19:45,014 --> 01:19:49,394 that all of us can attach to and go along the ride with. 1642 01:19:49,494 --> 01:19:51,354 But, you know, if you've got the ability 1643 01:19:51,454 --> 01:19:54,474 to make people laugh and forget their woes for a bit, 1644 01:19:54,574 --> 01:19:57,074 you know, oh, what a job. 1645 01:19:57,174 --> 01:19:59,174 [audience applauding] 1646 01:20:00,534 --> 01:20:03,374 I miss me, mate. [chuckles] The old Strop. 1647 01:20:06,934 --> 01:20:10,574 [birds twittering] 1648 01:20:15,214 --> 01:20:17,034 [bee buzzing] 1649 01:20:17,134 --> 01:20:19,134 [gentle music] 1650 01:20:20,014 --> 01:20:22,795 [Delvene] He was diagnosed the day before he turned 60 1651 01:20:22,895 --> 01:20:24,895 with Parkinson's disease. 1652 01:20:27,255 --> 01:20:31,555 We would talk all through our 46 years of marriage 1653 01:20:31,655 --> 01:20:33,695 till the cows came home. 1654 01:20:34,495 --> 01:20:36,115 You know, great conversationalists, 1655 01:20:36,215 --> 01:20:37,995 great conversations. 1656 01:20:38,095 --> 01:20:43,875 And to see him lose his voice was a real loss. 1657 01:20:43,975 --> 01:20:48,695 But through it all, I've never seen anyone be more brave. 1658 01:20:50,775 --> 01:20:52,915 He had a great depth of courage. 1659 01:20:53,015 --> 01:20:54,715 He never whinged. 1660 01:20:54,815 --> 01:21:00,315 He was stoic and he was accepting 1661 01:21:00,415 --> 01:21:03,396 and was never sorry for himself. 1662 01:21:03,496 --> 01:21:06,836 A couple of times I'd see him go - [sighs] - 1663 01:21:06,936 --> 01:21:09,656 and you could see he was just really tired of it. 1664 01:21:12,416 --> 01:21:16,236 And for me, as his long life love, 1665 01:21:16,336 --> 01:21:18,816 that was a really difficult thing to watch. 1666 01:21:22,416 --> 01:21:26,256 He always wanted to get to 80, and he did. 1667 01:21:28,136 --> 01:21:30,156 [reporter 1] His wife of 46 years 1668 01:21:30,256 --> 01:21:31,556 was by his side last night... 1669 01:21:31,656 --> 01:21:33,312 [reporter 2] You'll know him as Paul Hogan's 1670 01:21:33,336 --> 01:21:35,276 dopey sidekick Strop, but John Cornell... 1671 01:21:35,376 --> 01:21:37,472 [reporter 3] In a statement, his family remembered him 1672 01:21:37,496 --> 01:21:39,236 as a true egalitarian 1673 01:21:39,336 --> 01:21:40,957 who sought equity and equality 1674 01:21:41,057 --> 01:21:43,057 and fought for a fair go... 1675 01:21:44,497 --> 01:21:48,397 [Delvene] I had said to John before he passed, 1676 01:21:48,497 --> 01:21:50,237 what bird do you want to be remembered as? 1677 01:21:50,337 --> 01:21:51,953 Because we've got a tradition in our family. 1678 01:21:51,977 --> 01:21:54,577 And he said, "I want a kookaburra." 1679 01:21:56,657 --> 01:21:57,957 I said, "Why?" 1680 01:21:58,057 --> 01:22:00,297 And he said, "'Cause they make people laugh." 1681 01:22:01,417 --> 01:22:05,077 [kookaburras laughing distantly] 1682 01:22:05,177 --> 01:22:07,797 They land in the tree where we've tied all the ribbons 1683 01:22:07,897 --> 01:22:09,597 that we had people send in 1684 01:22:09,697 --> 01:22:11,917 who couldn't come to the funeral because it was COVID. 1685 01:22:12,017 --> 01:22:13,997 And that's John's tree 1686 01:22:14,097 --> 01:22:18,157 and all these ribbons are ephemerally ageing 1687 01:22:18,257 --> 01:22:20,338 and it's kind of like life itself. 1688 01:22:26,098 --> 01:22:27,558 A few years before he passed away 1689 01:22:27,658 --> 01:22:29,318 and he wasn't in a good way, 1690 01:22:29,418 --> 01:22:30,994 we went round to his house to pick him up. 1691 01:22:31,018 --> 01:22:32,758 Went to get his shoes, 1692 01:22:32,858 --> 01:22:35,838 and he put his foot into his shoe and he went, "Hang on." 1693 01:22:35,938 --> 01:22:37,638 And he pulled his foot out of his shoe 1694 01:22:37,738 --> 01:22:39,358 and he put his hand into his shoe 1695 01:22:39,458 --> 01:22:41,358 and there was a rigor mortis mouse, 1696 01:22:41,458 --> 01:22:43,398 tiny little mouse, in his shoe. 1697 01:22:43,498 --> 01:22:47,238 And he just looked up and said... 1698 01:22:47,338 --> 01:22:49,438 "I got to get out more." 1699 01:22:49,538 --> 01:22:51,918 Because he clearly hadn't put his shoes on enough lately. 1700 01:22:52,018 --> 01:22:53,718 Or he hadn't chosen those shoes. 1701 01:22:53,818 --> 01:22:55,878 But that's just a classic beautiful line. 1702 01:22:55,978 --> 01:22:57,715 That he just - straight off the top of his head - 1703 01:22:57,739 --> 01:22:59,359 "I've got to get out more." 1704 01:22:59,459 --> 01:23:01,459 You know? And that's just... that's Corny. 1705 01:23:02,739 --> 01:23:04,559 As a friend, 1706 01:23:04,659 --> 01:23:06,839 as a mentor to me, as someone I love dearly, 1707 01:23:06,939 --> 01:23:09,099 it'd never been better for me. 1708 01:23:14,339 --> 01:23:16,599 [Denis] Everything I've had to do with Hogan and Cornell 1709 01:23:16,699 --> 01:23:18,359 in the making of the movie 1710 01:23:18,459 --> 01:23:20,555 and all the other things that we've done through our lives 1711 01:23:20,579 --> 01:23:22,579 has been a privilege. 1712 01:23:25,419 --> 01:23:27,419 [emotionally] I'm getting teary. 1713 01:23:28,979 --> 01:23:30,999 Um... 1714 01:23:31,099 --> 01:23:32,799 One of the saddest things 1715 01:23:32,899 --> 01:23:36,380 was I could never get to John's funeral. 1716 01:23:41,060 --> 01:23:43,340 Anyway... Thanks, John. 1717 01:23:55,060 --> 01:23:57,060 Sorry. 1718 01:23:57,380 --> 01:23:59,380 - Oh, sorry. - [Delvene sobs softly] 1719 01:24:00,620 --> 01:24:03,020 [romantic instrumental music playing] 1720 01:24:04,060 --> 01:24:07,040 [Delvene] My wish initially when I fell in love with John 1721 01:24:07,140 --> 01:24:10,960 was that we would grow old together, and we did. 1722 01:24:11,060 --> 01:24:13,060 How lucky am I? 1723 01:24:18,901 --> 01:24:20,441 I search for my lover. 1724 01:24:20,541 --> 01:24:22,361 He's missing one thong 1725 01:24:22,461 --> 01:24:24,041 and wearing a lifesaver's cap. 1726 01:24:24,141 --> 01:24:25,721 - Pray tell, is it yours? - Yeah. 1727 01:24:25,821 --> 01:24:26,961 How do you know? 1728 01:24:27,061 --> 01:24:28,601 By the chewing gum under the strap. 1729 01:24:28,701 --> 01:24:30,401 - Ah. - [audience laughter] 1730 01:24:30,501 --> 01:24:33,801 [Delvene] This documentary, this is an act of love. 1731 01:24:33,901 --> 01:24:36,841 For John, primarily, 1732 01:24:36,941 --> 01:24:38,941 because he's not here to be honoured. 1733 01:24:39,781 --> 01:24:43,001 But also for the film and for Paul 1734 01:24:43,101 --> 01:24:45,601 and all my old friends, 1735 01:24:45,701 --> 01:24:48,381 everyone who added their spark to Crocodile Dundee. 1736 01:24:49,221 --> 01:24:51,081 [laughs] 1737 01:24:51,181 --> 01:24:54,802 [Delvene] When anything is made with courage, conviction, 1738 01:24:54,902 --> 01:24:57,762 chemistry and humour... 1739 01:24:57,862 --> 01:24:59,242 [both laugh] 1740 01:24:59,342 --> 01:25:00,522 Do you want me to hide it? 1741 01:25:00,622 --> 01:25:02,642 [Delvene] ..you can feel this magic 1742 01:25:02,742 --> 01:25:05,362 and everything becomes possible. 1743 01:25:05,462 --> 01:25:09,602 [Paul] I love you, Delly. It's all been a pleasure. 1744 01:25:09,702 --> 01:25:12,382 - Yeah. Travel well. - Okay. 1745 01:25:13,502 --> 01:25:17,302 [Delvene] I may never know what makes magic happen... 1746 01:25:20,582 --> 01:25:24,522 ..but I do know that, to me, 1747 01:25:24,622 --> 01:25:28,822 the most magical ingredient of all is love. 1748 01:25:44,263 --> 01:25:49,663 [kookaburras laughing distantly] 1749 01:25:53,703 --> 01:25:56,043 [interviewer] I want it from the horse's mouth, John. 1750 01:25:56,143 --> 01:25:57,683 - Are we starting? - [interviewer] Yep. 1751 01:25:57,783 --> 01:25:59,323 Yeah, okay. Hold on, I'll put this out. 1752 01:25:59,423 --> 01:26:01,943 [uplifting music] 1753 01:26:02,783 --> 01:26:04,483 I'll tickle you. That'll make you wake up. 1754 01:26:04,583 --> 01:26:06,583 [both chuckle] 1755 01:26:09,343 --> 01:26:11,324 So, what did we used to say? 1756 01:26:11,424 --> 01:26:13,424 - Elbows out. - Elbows out. 1757 01:26:17,504 --> 01:26:20,184 [laughing] Minister for Good Times. 1758 01:26:23,224 --> 01:26:25,224 [blows kiss]