1 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,760 NARRATOR: When a killer strikes... 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,320 He died at 8:50 this morning. 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,840 So, we've now got a murder investigation. 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:24,440 ..catching the suspect falls to a specialist team of detectives. 5 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,920 MAN: Wow. It's quite shocking. 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,960 His last moments were in this room. 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,840 First, they must hunt for clues. BOTH: What was that? 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,320 Could be the murder weapon. 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,080 There are messages of interest. "I've killed someone." 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,080 He was just possessed. He was a man on a mission. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,480 Then... Ah, there we go. 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,880 ..identify a suspect... 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,520 That is spot on. ..and bring them in. 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,280 SIREN WAILS 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,760 Get on the floor now! 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,480 DOG BARKING 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,520 You're under arrest for murder, OK? What?! 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,320 Next, they must question the suspect to build the case... 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,200 Explain to me what's going on. 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,320 ..separate the truth from the lies... 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,840 You said there wasn't a plan. Where were you heading, then? 22 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:21,120 ..and deliver justice for the victims and their families. 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,920 They are two really dangerous people. 24 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:25,080 MAN YELLS 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,480 The streets will be a much safer place without them. 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,040 SIREN WAILS This time... 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Wow. It's quite shocking. 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,120 ..a vulnerable man is assaulted and left in a burning building. 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,120 Ah, there we go. I think that's our suspect. 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,880 Will detectives be able to track the suspect down? 31 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,640 WOMAN: When you've got a dangerous individual, 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,360 you know, the stakes are higher. 33 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,760 DIAL TONE 34 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,840 SIREN WAILS 35 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:45,800 Police and fire crews have been called 36 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,720 to a raging inferno at a flat in Hull. 37 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Officers arrive and discover a man has been pulled from the fire 38 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,920 with life-threatening injuries. 39 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,240 Cheers. 40 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Come on. 41 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,680 OK, no worries. 42 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,640 Police officers automatically question passers-by. 43 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Witness reports of a second person in the flat 44 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,000 raised police suspicions. 45 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,480 Definitely heard two different voices. Yeah. 46 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,160 Do you wanna look after the back? 47 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,720 The property is now a potential crime scene. 48 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,240 SIREN WAILS 49 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:32,920 The rescued man is taken to hospital, 50 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,120 where it's discovered he's been seriously assaulted. 51 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,480 He's identified as 54-year-old Anthony Ibbitson. 52 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,440 Two days later, he tragically dies from his injuries. 53 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,840 The suspicious house fire is now a murder investigation. 54 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Can you grab everyone for us, please, mate? 55 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,600 The case is passed to Humberside's Major Crime Team. 56 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:05,800 Leading the investigation 57 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,760 is Detective Chief Inspector Amy Keane-Christie. 58 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,080 It's so horrific in terms of the incident itself. 59 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,560 He was quite a vulnerable gentleman. 60 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,640 We know the victim was assaulted. 61 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,200 We've established that there is a witness 62 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,680 and the witness heard more than one voice. 63 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,720 'It's really key to understand actually what happened 64 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,640 'and who was in that address at the time.' 65 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,080 Right. 66 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,000 DCI Keane-Christie needs to familiarise herself 67 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,400 with the crime scene. 68 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,280 My intention is just to get 69 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,360 an overview of the scene externally first. Yeah. 70 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,760 We can then obviously look at it room by room. Yeah. 71 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,080 The type of elements of it in terms of the assault, 72 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,720 the fire, that's quite unique. 73 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,560 So really, hopefully with this visit, 74 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,560 it will help us then understand the layout, 75 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,400 understand what could have happened within it. 76 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,200 Police believe that the fire started in the bedroom. 77 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,560 Wow. You can see the extent of the fire damage, can't you? 78 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,240 It's... It's quite shocking. 79 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,120 The bed of Antony's was just here 80 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,040 with the headboard towards this wall. Yeah. 81 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:38,360 He's then found by the firefighters and dragged out 82 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,840 from just next to the bed on this side, 83 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,480 dragged out through the hallway, out to the front door. 84 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,440 And this room was disturbed, and there was items everywhere. 85 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,520 And we understand that the fire would have started 86 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,480 somewhere around here. 87 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,240 It was through this window that the witnesses first saw 88 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,400 the fire starting. 89 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,640 There's blood on the wall. 90 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,000 You can see the arrows just down here on the wall. 91 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:03,680 He passed away in hospital, 92 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,520 but, you know, his last kind of moments or, 93 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,560 you know, his interactions were in this room, really. 94 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Yeah. 95 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,680 Definitely thought-provoking, isn't it? It is, yeah. 96 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,800 Yeah, it must have been horrendous in this room when it was on fire. 97 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,280 So, it's like, in this room, obviously, 98 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,760 even though the seat of the fire was in the bedroom, 99 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,240 you know, the smoke damage is really, really extensive. 100 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,840 It's obviously come throughout the whole of the flat. 101 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,320 Also, really, I suppose, 102 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,720 it just shows you the contrast, doesn't it, 103 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,400 of this room is obviously really, really tidy as well? 104 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,480 And obviously, other than the smoke damage... 105 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Yeah. ..it's not particularly, you know, messy, 106 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,640 but the difference in the scene to... 107 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Contrasting to the living room and the bedroom, yeah. ..the bedroom. 108 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,200 There's two priorities, really. 109 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,840 One is to understand the scene itself. 110 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,280 The second then is to look at forensic opportunities, 111 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:00,320 especially in the case 112 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,320 where we don't have a suspect that's identified. 113 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Any scene that has any type of fire damage 114 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,520 can really compromise your opportunity for forensics. 115 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Crime scene investigators have taken forensic samples 116 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,480 of several items in the flat. 117 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,680 These will be fast tracked to see if any DNA of a suspect can be found. 118 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,120 OK. Anything else you need to look at while you're here? 119 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,520 No. No, I don't think so. 120 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,160 It's weird, I suppose, isn't it, 121 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,600 of how much still, like, smoke there is in the air? Yeah. 122 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,600 DISTANT SIREN WAILS 123 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,480 It's this alleyway at the back of here, isn't it? Yeah. 124 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,560 Which is that one. Yeah. You're right, yeah. 125 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,600 Detectives have located CCTV from near the victim's house. 126 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,920 This is the camera covering the property address. 127 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,200 Detective Sergeant Sam Cunnington is reviewing the footage 128 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,280 in the minutes before and after the fire. 129 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,840 Ah, there we go. 130 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,920 So, it appears we've got an individual leaving the address 131 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,720 shortly after the fire began. 132 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,800 That's gonna be a key line of inquiry. 133 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,880 It's a breakthrough for the team. 134 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,760 But who is the shadowy figure, 135 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,640 and did they have a part to play in Anthony Ibbitson's murder? 136 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,040 NARRATOR: Humberside Major Crime Team are investigating the murder 137 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,280 of 54-year-old Anthony Ibbitson, 138 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,800 who was pulled from a house fire with signs of being brutally beaten. 139 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Ah, there we go. 140 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,560 That's gonna be a key line of inquiry. 141 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,800 The team have an image of a suspect leaving the address 142 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,720 in the minutes before the fire took hold. 143 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,800 And I think that's him arriving at the scene. 144 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,600 And, yeah, goes into the victim's address. 145 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,960 So we've got him arriving now. We go back a bit. 146 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,880 Definitely two tones on the jacket or hood. 147 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,600 And definitely some kind of a marking 148 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,680 on the back of the shoulder. 149 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,400 White trainers. 150 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,680 So the aim now will be to track this suspect 151 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,240 to somewhere where we can get a decent facial image. 152 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,880 Detective Constable Dani Crawforth is heading to the scene of the fire 153 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,840 to hunt for more CCTV cameras. 154 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,840 The initial thing is trying to work out 155 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,760 where that person has gone, 156 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,640 to try and ID this guy. Yeah. 157 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:05,360 It's literally a tracking from place to place to find out 158 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,560 where that person has gone and trying to work out a direction 159 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,960 and seeing them on another camera or some more footage. 160 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,800 This street is the location of where the incident took place 161 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,800 and the subsequent fire. 162 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Was it that camera up there? 163 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,960 Or he went up the street? Yeah. This side of the road and across. 164 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,240 Starting at the scene, they follow the suspect's route 165 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,280 away from the property in the hope of locating more cameras. 166 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:38,960 We know he's come up here... 167 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,400 ..even though we see quite a grainy image. 168 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,840 There's another camera just on the left-hand side. 169 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,320 This camera, it points onto the car park, 170 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,840 so if he is gonna walk past... 171 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,720 There's good coverage all the way outside of there, isn't there? 172 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Cos it looks like a new camera. 173 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,680 Yeah, good-quality footage from it... 174 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,240 ..or to check it. 175 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,360 The footage from the CCTV camera is downloaded 176 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,800 and given to Detective Sergeant Sam Cunnington 177 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,040 in the Digital Media Unit. 178 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,760 This is the store around the corner from the scene. 179 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,760 Definitely the same jacket, 180 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,720 same white mark on the shoulder, trainers. 181 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,960 Happy with... 182 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,400 The next job will be tracking him further along here 183 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,200 to see where he ends up going to. 184 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,240 There's another camera. 185 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,160 Wondering if it's possible to have a look at your CCTV. 186 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,800 Over the next few days, 187 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,800 using the suspect's direction of travel, 188 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,880 officers collect footage from over 50 cameras, 189 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,800 which they painstakingly pieced together. 190 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,040 And then we have him walking on Beverley Road, up Beverley Road... 191 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,200 ..and then again past the Beverley Road Baths. 192 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,480 So, he carries on... 193 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,960 ..and goes into a phone box. 194 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,200 He's definitely in there for a while. 195 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:39,000 So, the key thing in this footage is the walk of our suspect. 196 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,680 It is a noticeable walk. 197 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,680 He's got a bit of a swagger. 198 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,160 Every camera we have is just... not enough. 199 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,240 He's managed to avoid everything facially. 200 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,160 He always managed to keep his head down, his face out the imagery. 201 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,440 Detectives track him for over five miles 202 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,280 to a housing estate in the north of the city. 203 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,080 This is on... Bransholme. 204 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,200 We can see our suspect in the background walking across, 205 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,320 and we know that once we get into this housing estate, 206 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,600 this is a large housing estate in Hull, 207 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,360 he... he disappeared. 208 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,680 So we still need to find who this person is. 209 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,920 It's really frustrating that we haven't got a facial image. 210 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,200 While digital media officers have been collecting CCTV, 211 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,320 a number of items from the crime scene 212 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,760 have been fast tracked for DNA testing. 213 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Will they provide any clues? 214 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Are you in a position now to go through them and just confirm 215 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,760 what the results were for us? Yeah. 216 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,120 First item was the black wallet, 217 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,200 which was from under the head of the bed. 218 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,960 There was nothing to identify any other person. 219 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,480 The next item was a picture frame, but again, 220 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,120 there was nothing to identify any other person 221 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,880 that may have touched that item. 222 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,960 So we also submitted three swabs, 223 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,960 which were taken from blood staining on the wall of the bedroom. 224 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,480 All those three swabs came back as being the blood of Anthony Ibbitson 225 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,360 with no other... So nobody else? 226 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,680 ..no other contributor. No. 227 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,840 We knew due to the fire damage and the scene itself 228 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,840 that it may be difficult. Yeah. 229 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,720 In their efforts to identify their suspect, 230 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,560 detectives also swabbed the phone box 231 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,960 the suspect was seen going into. 232 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,160 So, we sent off a black plastic telephone handset, 233 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,240 and there was no DNA recovered from that 234 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,200 which would take us any further forward to identifying a suspect. 235 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,080 It was definitely worth a shot, I think, just to see if we could get 236 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,720 some early forensic indication on who the suspect is. 237 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,600 It's another blow for the team. 238 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,200 And obviously, if he's come from this direction, 239 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,800 then this whole area might then become relevant. 240 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,640 So they decide to focus their efforts 241 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,680 on the housing estate where he was last sighted 242 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,840 in the belief that he may live there. 243 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:35,840 DCI Keane-Christie sends teams to canvass the area for further CCTV. 244 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,600 So, from this last sighting, 245 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,360 we just know that he's come down that path, 246 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,720 that he doesn't go back on himself, and we're here. 247 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,360 We think he's gone across there. 248 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,480 So it's quite a large housing estate 249 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,520 with sort of community areas, shops, parks. 250 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,120 There's pathways crisscrossing all the way through the houses 251 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,360 and shortcuts that... 252 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:05,440 Like a maze. 253 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,320 When you've got no name, no links, 254 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:18,640 you have no idea who the suspect is... 255 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,720 ..we've got a dangerous individual... 256 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,360 Yeah, the stakes are higher. 257 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,760 We are so determined that we're gonna catch them 258 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,320 and get to the bottom of the story. 259 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,920 And when you're beginning to constantly come to dead-ends 260 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,640 and not get anywhere, it just starts to feel like, 261 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,320 "Is this it?" Mm. 262 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,040 "Is this as far as we're going with it?" 263 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,360 Police still have no idea who the suspect is 264 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,720 and no idea what went on inside Anthony Ibbitson's flat. 265 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,200 But the Digital Media team have made an important discovery. 266 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,280 One camera near the victim's property 267 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:14,920 has recorded audio. 268 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,680 Fuck! 269 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,840 MAN SHOUTS 270 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,560 The audio is incredibly important 271 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,760 because it provides you, like, that third eye 272 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,240 into the property itself and what was happening. 273 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,240 MAN SHOUTS 274 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,840 From the audio, we can hear on there 275 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,160 that the suspect has a non-local accent. 276 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,240 He's asking Anthony about drugs. 277 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,240 From our information, 278 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Anthony doesn't have a history with drugs 279 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,840 in terms of drug supply or holding any type of drugs, 280 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,480 so we're not sure whether it was mistaken identity. 281 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,360 RUSTLING ON TAPE 282 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,120 BANGING 283 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,800 You can hear threats of violence. It's so horrific. 284 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,560 The suspect has left Anthony in the address. 285 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,400 We know from the audio he was aware of the fire. 286 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,320 He's had opportunities since leaving the address to call the police, 287 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:37,000 to call the fire brigade, and he hasn't done. 288 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,640 We can hear the level of violence that's displayed. 289 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,080 So the quicker we can get hands on 290 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:45,600 and have that person in custody, the better. 291 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,840 So, if we can't identify them 292 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,480 because of the quality of the footage, 293 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,560 then we need the public's assistance to be able to find out who they are. 294 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,040 DISTANT SIREN WAILS 295 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,600 I'm Detective Chief Inspector Amy Keane-Christie, 296 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,680 and I'm the senior investigating officer 297 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,440 who's leading the murder investigation. 298 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,000 We need your help. 299 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,600 Were you in the area of Freetown Way, Ferensway, 300 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,200 Spring Bank or Beverley Road between the hours of 7pm and 8pm? 301 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,480 If so, we really need to review your dashcam footage. 302 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,400 However small, it could be crucial to our investigation. 303 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Along with the appeal to the public, 304 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:29,200 DCI Keane-Christie releases some of the CCTV online. 305 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,080 It's hoped when we release the footage 306 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:34,120 that we firstly, obviously, identify the suspect involved. 307 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,040 But secondly, it could be that people 308 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,760 that may have been passing by, driving by, 309 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,080 seeing something that maybe just didn't seem normal. 310 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:41,640 But also, they might have been driving 311 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,000 in their vehicle using dashcams - 312 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,480 anything to help us that could ID that suspect. 313 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,800 Whilst the team wait for the public to respond, 314 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,160 the detectives that were sent to canvass the area 315 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,200 have had a possible breakthrough. 316 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,520 They've stopped a man matching his description. 317 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,720 It was the walk. 318 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,480 I literally stood in front of him and stopped him. Yeah. 319 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,960 He didn't seem bothered, did he? No. 320 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,640 And when, erm... 321 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,960 when I asked for his name and he said his name 322 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,000 and we heard the accent... 323 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,760 Yeah, the accent. ..it threw us, didn't it? 324 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,680 Yeah, it did. We looked at each other and thinking, "Whoa." 325 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,360 And he showed his, like, working permit. 326 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,880 Mark Vaskouski. 327 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,360 But having no grounds to detain him, 328 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,760 they have no option but to let him go. 329 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,960 Oh, it's frustrating. Frustrating. 330 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,400 It's really frustrating. 331 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Cos it starts feeling like everything is against you. 332 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,760 Is Mark Vaskouski the suspect they're looking for? 333 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,960 DISTANT SIREN WAILS 334 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,000 NARRATOR: Detectives in Humberside's Major Crime Team 335 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,760 are working around the clock trying to solve the brutal murder 336 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,360 of 54-year-old Anthony Ibbitson. 337 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,840 It's so horrific. 338 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,680 We know the victim was assaulted 339 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,840 and he was just left inside of a fire. 340 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,800 They've stopped a man with a similar walk 341 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,600 to the suspect seen on CCTV. 342 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,720 He said his name, and we heard the accent. 343 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,160 Yeah, the accent. It threw us, didn't it? 344 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,240 But as the CCTV hasn't shown a clear facial image, 345 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,120 they've had no option but to let him go. 346 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,360 So they widen their search for more footage. 347 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,240 The area that we lose this figure on the CCTV 348 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,000 has a shopping centre in the middle. 349 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,040 So that's a good area to extend our CCTV parameters, 350 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,000 and the shopping centre itself, we know from previous experience, 351 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080 has excellent CCTV. 352 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,200 Detectives begin trawling the CCTV from the day of the attack. 353 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,920 And finally, this produces the breakthrough 354 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,560 police have been waiting for. 355 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,440 I can see him immediately coming in to the front entrance. 356 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,040 A very distinctive walk. 357 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,520 You can see the distinctive white logo 358 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,200 on the top-left of the jacket. 359 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,320 It's a big breakthrough. 360 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,000 Now, detectives have a clear image of their suspect's face, 361 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,640 they can check to see if it is the man stopped in the housing estate. 362 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,360 If we look here at the photograph of the ID card, 363 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,800 when we compare it to this piece of footage... 364 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,320 ..now that, to me... is spot on. 365 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,760 Mark Vaskouski is now suspect number one. 366 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,760 SIREN WAILS 367 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,240 With a potentially violent murderer on the loose... 368 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,760 ..a specialist team armed with Tasers are dispatched to arrest him. 369 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,400 Hello. Hello there. 370 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,240 Police. Stand there for me. 371 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,160 OK, listen to what I have to say to you. 372 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,600 You're under arrest for murder. 373 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,960 You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence 374 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,800 if you do not mention something which you later rely on in court. 375 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,120 Anything you do say may be given in evidence. 376 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,800 Could this be the man 377 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,600 that violently assaulted Anthony Ibbitson 378 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,560 and left him in a burning building? 379 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,560 Do you speak English? HE GRUNTS 380 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,560 English? No? 381 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,800 Is there anybody else in the flat, or is it just you? No. 382 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,560 Just you? I'm just... If you just take hold, 383 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,320 I'll make sure there's no-one else here. 384 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,880 OK. All will be explained in a bit. 385 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,720 There's nobody else here. Oh, right. 386 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,440 Officers seize his mobile phone... 387 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,960 All right. 388 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,400 Pop up in there, my friend. 389 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,320 ..before transporting him to Clough Road Police Station. 390 00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:41,880 Take him to C. 391 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:49,760 Come on, buddy. 392 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,600 Hello. Good afternoon. 393 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,600 You've been arrested for murder. 394 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,680 So, you've been identified through some CCTV enquiries, 395 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,760 and you've been suspected of committing this offence. 396 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Stand up for us, Mark. 397 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,200 With their suspect number one in custody, 398 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,600 detectives have 24 hours to bring charges. 399 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,720 Detective Constable Steve Storey will lead the interviews. 400 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,920 From the initial interview, 401 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,200 we want him to provide us with his version of events. 402 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,960 We want him to explain where he was at the time of the murder. 403 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,160 And we want to get that account in as much detail as we can 404 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,760 without giving him any information that we're aware of. 405 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,920 Assisted by an interpreter, 406 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,520 how will Vaskouski account for himself? 407 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,160 The time is 17:48. 408 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,120 We're at Clough Road Police Station in Hull. 409 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,480 You've been arrested for murder. 410 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,440 IN OWN LANGUAGE: 411 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,640 You are. You're under arrest for that... for that murder, so... 412 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,560 INTERPRETER INTERPRETS 413 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,960 Mm. OK. 414 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,400 Tell me about your involvement in that offence. 415 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760 INTERPRETER INTERPRETS 416 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,960 OK, so if we go back to that Wednesday... 417 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,920 where were you between half past seven in the evening 418 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,120 and half past nine in the evening? 419 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,240 OK. 420 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,480 So specifically, then, between 7:30pm and 9:30pm, 421 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,040 what do you remember doing? 422 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,640 PlayStation. PlayStation. 423 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,200 OK, so you were at home on your PlayStation? 424 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,640 Yes. OK. 425 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,120 With Vaskouski claiming he was at home, 426 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,000 detectives next show him the shopping centre CCTV. 427 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,080 Do you see that? 428 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:06,240 So this is CCTV from the North Point Centre 429 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,880 from the 29th of November, and it's... 430 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,760 it's in the morning, at 10:48. 431 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,560 You see this person here where my pen's pointing? 432 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,480 Is that you? 433 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,840 No, that's not you. 434 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,880 You don't have a North Face jacket? No. 435 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,080 Did you have a North Face jacket on the 29th of November? 436 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,920 No. 437 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,640 We believe that's you. 438 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,760 It wasn't you? No. 439 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,720 And this is also from the North Point Centre. 440 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,840 It wasn't you? 441 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,560 Do you recognise the shopping centre? 442 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,720 You can obviously see that the... 443 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,400 this person is wearing black trainers with white soles. 444 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,080 So you're happy that's not you? 445 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,240 OK. OK. 446 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,200 How many mobile phones do you own? 447 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,760 So, at the time of this fire, 448 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,360 at 2038 hours on the 29th of November, 449 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,560 was that mobile phone and SIM card in your possession? 450 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,080 So it would have been at your house, then, at your flat? 451 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,560 Is there anything you want to say before we finish? 452 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,920 The time is 11:40, and that's the end of the interview. 453 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,560 After almost two hours of interview, Vaskouski has given nothing away. 454 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Police have no forensic evidence that puts him at the scene. 455 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,760 But can they link him to the crime by the clothing seen on the footage? 456 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,160 So, the clothing is really, really key. 457 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,240 So, he's got really, really distinctive clothing on. 458 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,880 So, he has, like, a three-quarter-length black coat 459 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,320 a over-the-shoulder small bag 460 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,640 and then these distinctive black trainers with a white sole. 461 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,440 It's really, really key to get those because that will help us prove 462 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,720 the man on the footage is Vaskouski. 463 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,320 Whilst officers search Vaskouski's flat 464 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,880 for the coat and the shoes... 465 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,640 ..detectives decide to re-interview him. 466 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,120 What we're gonna do is show you some more CCTV now. 467 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,600 This time, they focus in on the events of the night 468 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,560 to see if he'll change his story. 469 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,320 So, this is now Beverley Road, walking out of the city. 470 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,040 We're saying that's the same person in the black trainers 471 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,960 with the white soles and the North Face jacket. 472 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,360 So we believe that's the same person 473 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,920 that you saw in St Stephen's and Tesco's? 474 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Yeah, but he doesn't look like half the people in this city. 475 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,640 This is a figure going walking. 476 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,360 He goes into the victim's address. 477 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,400 INTERPRETER INTERPRETS 478 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,880 Again, was that you, Mark? 479 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,320 We see a figure coming out of the address. 480 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,640 Mm-hm. That's about 12 minutes before the fire brigade were called. 481 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,440 So if that was you in the address... Nyet. 482 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,680 ..now is your opportunity to tell me what was happening 483 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:48,920 when you left that house. 484 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,400 So what we know is that a witness described an over... 485 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,040 what is described as an overheated discussion. 486 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,880 Were you involved in that discussion? 487 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,640 INTERPRETER AND MARK: 488 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Time's 17:14. It's the end of the interview. 489 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,280 'Mark Vaskouski at the moment is very calm. 490 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,520 'He's not giving much away.' 491 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,040 Given the severity of the allegation being put to him, 492 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,160 he sat quite calmly during that interview. 493 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,960 Doesn't look too upset by 494 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,080 the allegations that we've put to him. 495 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,280 Teams searching his flat have reported back, 496 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,160 and it's not good news. 497 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,280 At this stage, we haven't recovered, have we, 498 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,280 either the footwear or the jacket, the long North Face-style jacket, 499 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,960 kind of three-quarters-length one that we haven't found either? 500 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,080 But during the search, 501 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,320 police did find a damaged CCTV camera at the back of his property. 502 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,720 So, this is the back garden. 503 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,440 And crucially, it overlooks his bins. 504 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,560 We observe that this camera had been removed. 505 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,720 So, we obtained the last footage from this camera, 506 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,120 and it shows a figure... 507 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,920 ..making one attempt to dislodge it from the wall, 508 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,600 and when that's unsuccessful, comes back and... 509 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,880 ..removes it. 510 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,840 And that's the last footage that's captured from that camera. 511 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360 So for me, really, it's definitely an inference 512 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,520 that he's destroyed the camera in order to not be captured 513 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,440 putting those evidence items that are clothing in the bins. 514 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Absolutely. 515 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,720 The team only have circumstantial evidence. 516 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,200 With the clock ticking down, 517 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,320 will they be able to charge Vaskouski with murder, 518 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,920 or will he walk free? 519 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,680 NARRATOR: Detectives have a suspect in custody for the murder 520 00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:25,880 of 54-year-old Anthony Ibbitson. 521 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,120 The team have been unable to find clothing worn by their suspect, 522 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,360 Mark Vaskouski, on the day of the fire. 523 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:38,720 This is... what I reckon is our suspect. 524 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:44,120 But they have continued to review CCTV footage from a shopping centre 525 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120 to track him in the hours before the murder. 526 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:49,720 He's gone into a jeweller's. 527 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,240 And he hands something over, and it looks like it's a receipt. 528 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,520 We need to find the receipt. 529 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:08,120 Finding the receipt would prove that it is Vaskouski in the footage. 530 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,520 Whilst officers try to locate it, 531 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,040 the team have also been analysing data from his mobile phone. 532 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,280 He's told us that his phone is always with him 533 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,600 and that he's at his home address the whole day. 534 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,440 So, we can see that at or before 18:34 in the evening... 535 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,000 suspect's mobile phone is now connecting to a mast 536 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,040 in the vicinity of the city centre. 537 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,360 So then, right at the time of the assault and fire, 538 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,240 at the time that took place, 539 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,760 we can see that the suspect's mobile phone 540 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,520 is very close to the offence location. 541 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,280 With this new evidence, 542 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,640 police secure a custody extension of 12 hours 543 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,840 to challenge him in a further interview. 544 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:05,160 When you use your phone, it communicates with masts, 545 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,080 and that allows us to put your phone in a particular area 546 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,280 when it's in use. 547 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,960 So, analysis has been carried out of your phone. OK? 548 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,480 And that shows that, on the 29th of the 11th, 549 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,640 your phone is shown to be... 550 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,760 ..in the Hull city centre area. Mm-hm. 551 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,280 Can you explain why that is? 552 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,680 We've shown you CCTV of a male we believe to be you 553 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:37,760 in the Hull city centre. 554 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,600 So, this analysis supports our belief 555 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,400 that you were in Hull city centre 556 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640 on the evening of the 29th of November. 557 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,560 'Now he's starting to shut down on us. 558 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,600 'He's not answering these questions, and he's reverting to no comment. 559 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,360 'He's not speaking. It's quite telling, really.' 560 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,800 It can be that he's unable to answer the questions 561 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,480 based on the new evidence that we're putting to him. 562 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:13,680 We can see, on the 29th of the 11th, at or before 19:43, 563 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:17,480 your phone is communicating with a mast in that area. 564 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,840 So, tell me why that is. 565 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,200 Is it because you're in that area? 566 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,240 This fits with the CCTV we've shown you. 567 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,840 Is that because it is you on that CCTV? 568 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,560 Not you. 569 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,440 So who's got your phone, then? 570 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,280 'Suspect's body language has changed.' 571 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,640 It became a little bit more withdrawn. 572 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,200 What we're gonna do, Mark, is show you some CCTV footage. 573 00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:59,200 Detectives sense the time is right to further challenge his account 574 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:01,000 with the audio of the assault. 575 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,040 Fuck! 576 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,680 MAN YELLS 577 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,360 I kill you. 578 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,200 So, Mark, tell me what we've just been listening to there. 579 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,160 OK. Could you h...? 580 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,400 What could you make out on that audio? 581 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,200 Explain to me what's going on. 582 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640 We believe you've gone to his address, 583 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,440 assaulted Mr Ibbitson... over a period of time, 584 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,720 after which a fire has started and you've left the address. 585 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,040 Your phone's in that area, and we've shown you CCTV footage, 586 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,360 including footage which shows... a face, and we believe that's you. 587 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,560 So is there any explanation you want to give before we finish? 588 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,960 Time's 22:24. That's the end of the interview. 589 00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:39,760 Vaskouski is still not talking to police. 590 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,720 But in the hunt for the receipt seen in CCTV footage, 591 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,520 detectives have made a significant discovery. 592 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,680 So, we've obviously got Vaskouski. 593 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,120 Looks like he's trying to make some form of return. 594 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:56,680 Obviously, we can see, 595 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,760 can't we, from those images, a little Champion bag? 596 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,040 When we can look to the warrant at his home address, 597 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,360 we recovered the Champion bag and sent that off for forensics. 598 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,080 And it was actually when then we've done the forensic examination 599 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,120 that we've actually recovered this receipt here, 600 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,680 shown on the screen, from that bag, from within it. 601 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,160 By having the receipt in the bag, 602 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,160 that timelines him really, really well. 603 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,800 That shows us, really, that, obviously, 604 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,080 the man on the footage is Vaskouski. 605 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,360 With proof that Vaskouski has lied to detectives, 606 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,560 they decide to go to the Crown Prosecution Service. 607 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,960 Will they agree to charge him with murder? 608 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,280 It's Detective Chief Inspector Amy Keane-Christie. How are you? 609 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,440 The CPS have authorised a charge for murder, 610 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,800 and Vaskouski has been remanded into custody. 611 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,520 It's definitely a relief for us 612 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,200 in terms of having Vaskouski remanded. 613 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,520 It means that he then can't cause any further harm to anybody else. 614 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,000 But, really, that's where the hard work starts 615 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,680 in terms of case building and making sure, 616 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:09,920 not only we can get a charge, 617 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,920 but we actually can get a conviction at court. 618 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,320 The team still don't have any forensic evidence, 619 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,560 but further testing has been conducted on items 620 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,400 from Anthony Ibbitson's flat and Vaskouski's address. 621 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,320 Can they provide the final piece of the jigsaw? 622 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,040 Swabs were taken from some planks, 623 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,240 which were recovered from Anthony Ibbitson's home address. 624 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,480 And a mixed DNA profile was obtained, 625 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,080 and in that profile, both Anthony Ibbitson 626 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,440 and Mark Vaskouski were well represented. 627 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,320 The scientist is happy to say that some of that cellular material... 628 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,760 Has come from Mark Vaskouski. ..belongs to Mark Vaskouski. 629 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,640 Yeah. That's fantastic news. 630 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,040 That is really, really positive. 631 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,000 So that, for me, shows that Mark Vaskouski was present 632 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,600 inside that flat. Yes. 633 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,720 The other significant forensic return that we've had 634 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000 relates to a black hooded top. 635 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,320 This item was seized from Mark Vaskouski's home address. 636 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,280 Blood staining's been found on the left cuff, 637 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,440 and this blood relates to the victim, Anthony Ibbitson. 638 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,520 So it's a positive link between our victim and our suspect. 639 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,360 The evidence strengthens the police case. 640 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,160 And crucially... 641 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,760 ..they've also received the pathologist's report. 642 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:44,760 Mr Ibbitson's death was due to the combined effects of burns 643 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,880 and inhalation of products of combustion 644 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,880 following an assault in which he sustained 645 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,400 significant head and neck trauma, which rendered him unconscious 646 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,040 and unable to flee the ensuing fire from the property. 647 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,120 Had he have not have been assaulted to the degree that he had been, 648 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,760 he would have been able to get up and leave. Absolutely. 649 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,760 And obviously, then we wouldn't have obviously got those other injuries. 650 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,880 Yeah. It clearly links both the assault and the fire to his death. 651 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,320 Together, doesn't it? Yeah. 652 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,880 So, the importance of the pathology report is that 653 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,520 it allows us to understand the level of injuries, 654 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,320 how those have occurred and also the fact that, 655 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,600 because of the injuries to his head, 656 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,560 he was unable to actually leave the flat when it was on fire, 657 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,440 ultimately leading obviously to his death. 658 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,600 With the evidence that we currently hold, 659 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,640 it's really strong. 660 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,200 So I would hope that any jury would convict Vaskouski of this offence. 661 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,640 Myself and the investigation team are really happy with the outcome, 662 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,800 not only because Vaskouski's been held to account for his actions, 663 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,320 but also because it provides a bit of comfort to the family. 664 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,400 At least they have justice for Anthony.