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[Eleanor] So I guess
the big question is,

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how do you feel
before you set off

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on this adventure

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that's been 30 years
in the making?

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I think I must be
a little afraid,

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a little scared,
but I think I take that

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as a really good thing.

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Because if I'm
a little afraid,

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it shows that I'm...

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I'm not just doing something

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that is just,
I know how to do or... uh...

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I have no nerves about it all.

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I'm doing something
I don't know how to do

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and I don't know how
it's going to work out,

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but I think that's good.

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Jacques Tati,
for his last film,

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put all his money in
and lost it and died broke.

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But who cares if you die broke

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if you made something that
you think is beautiful?

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[dramatic music playing]

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[Figgis]
We're heading for the studio.

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I'm intrigued.

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I've never actually seen

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another film director
at work before.

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I mean, the only time
I meet film directors

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is at festivals
or award ceremonies,

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that kind of thing.

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I've never seen one
actually working.

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[indistinct chatter]

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Also, I am intrigued to see

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how someone can spend
120 million dollars

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of their own money on a film.

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What advice would you
give anyone

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who wanted to make
a documentary

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about your husband?

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[chuckles] Um...

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That's a tough one.

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I think you just
observe what's going on

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that you think is interesting,

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that has life,
that has something, uh,

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that really interests
you as the filmmaker,

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because he'll have ideas,
and he'll...

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everybody's going this way

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and he's going to
want to go that way.

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[jazzy music playing]

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I don't really like
to shoot this too much,

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but if you like,
I'm happy to tell you

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what it is and we can have
a little interview in there.

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[Figgis]
Yeah, that'll be nice.

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The rest of the time
I'll be naked

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and I'll be in the bathtub
and so it's not really...

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[Figgis] That's when
I should shoot, right?

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Oh, no.

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[man] Francis is stepping in.

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You all have heard
of the famous

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<i>"lasciate ogne speranza,</i>
<i>voi ch'entrate'"</i>

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Who knows what that is?

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Anybody?
No one speaks Italian,

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obviously, or I don't
speak it well.

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That's abandon hope,
all ye who enter.

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That's on the sign of Hell.

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If I have a sign
and you'll see it,

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it's supposed to be up,

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which is basically
"Abandon worry,

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all you in here,"
because in this space,

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during this time,
nobody can be bad,

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nobody can get in trouble.

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Abandon worry, but it's
not without its price,

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because I'll tell
you something.

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When you're in this space,
you're not you.

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You are the character
you're playing.

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I want you to imagine
that you're coming

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to a Halloween
masquerade party.

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Not that you would come as,

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that your character
would come as.

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And not what Shia
would think of,

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what Clodio
would think, right?

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So you've got this
imaginary costume on

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and the game is going to be
that we have to guess

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like 20 questions who you are.

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[laughing]

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[guitar music playing]

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[Francis] Who knows how to
play sound focus?

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-Ah!
-Ah!

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-Back!
-Back!

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-Circus!
-Circus!

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-Dock!
-Dock!

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Yama!

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[laughing]

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If you do this every day,
you'll be great in the movie.

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-You do this every day...
-You really will.

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Games have rules.

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And the rule of this game
is that when you get mad,

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you dish it off to
the guy below you,

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which is in fact
what happens in life

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and what happens
in most plays.

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Take your hat, and when
you throw it down,

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you have to tell
the second guy to pick it up

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and then go back
to your improv.

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-Pick up my hat!
-Pick up my hat!

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[jazzy music playing]

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And I want you to somehow
bring the tone down.

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Bring down all of the anger,

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all of the rage,
all of the vulgarity.

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Okay, I'm gonna
stop for a second.

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I'm gonna be the boss.

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You gotta
take care of my staff.

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You're fired.

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Here, I want you to
go talk to the mayor.

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Tell the mayor,
there are three things

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-I'm not happy about.
-Right.

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One is their policy of...

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One second.

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You're fired.
Pay attention! Take a note.

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You know what you have to do?
You sat in my chair.

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-You know what you have to do?
-Yes.

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It's an old, old rule.

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Who knows the rules
what happens in movies

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when a person sits
in the director's chair?

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[woman] They have to buy
us all drinks.

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They have to buy
the whole company a drink,

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but I'm gonna forgive you

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because you didn't know that.

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-We're in rehearsal.
-Okay.

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I've never had an
experience like it before.

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I feel like I'm in an
acting class,

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but with these
wonderful people,

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which is so inspiring
and entertaining.

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But the whole movie magic
can be like that.

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[Isabelle] Yeah.

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[Shia] Do you lie to make
people feel better?

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Never.

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I-I, you know, I-I-I...
believe in the army dictum.

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Neither withhold nor
volunteer information.

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If you ask me a question,
I won't withhold the answer.

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But all your compliments,
all your encouragement,

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it's honest.

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[Francis] I have to tell you
a really honest fact

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that I only realized recently

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that when I do
casting for a movie,

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whether... whether
it's an open calling

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in this very room,
I met about 400 people

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and I shook their hand.

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Whether it's
a newcomer like that

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or it's Marlon Brando,

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I'm rooting for them
when I'm there with them.

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I really am.

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By the end of that week
of rehearsal,

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he had created
a sense of camaraderie

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amongst the principal actors

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who had started to
enjoy these games.

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And they... and also with
deep respect for Francis,

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they... they did
whatever he asked.

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Are they in character?

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Good.

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Don't mind the camera.
The camera's not even here.

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So how close are you guys?

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Do you... do you... do you
get together every week?

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[man] Occasionally.

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[Plaza]
Family's important, isn't it?

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[Voight]
I think family is everything.

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We have a close bond.

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We support each other.

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And I'm trying to be a proper

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captain of the ship to guide
them forth into the future.

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We have very
strong personalities.

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[Shia] Very strong.

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Look how buff he is.

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That's the one
compliment I get.

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He's so buff.

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Buff banker, right?

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-Flex for the camera.
-Oh.

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The actors started, I think,
acting with the camera

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because I was pretty
close and because

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I'm a filmmaker, I was getting
good angles and everything.

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And Francis, I think,
liked the fact

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that they were interacting
in a cinematic way

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in a rehearsal,
that it took it

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to a different level.

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And at one point,
he started directing me,

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which was very funny.

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Oh, you don't want to
flex for the camera?

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Why are you working
out so much?

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Well, let me ask a question.
Do you go to the gym?

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-No.
-Do you exercise?

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-No.
-You do nothing.

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You know, there's rumors.

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I don't know if you guys
read those kinds of things,

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but there's rumors of,
of slight instability.

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Instability.

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This is an advertisement.

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[Plaza] Did you hear that?

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Everything all right
over there, boys?

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Buff grandnephew.

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[Plaza] Oh, oh, oh.

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He's showing off.
He's showing off.

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-There we go.
-He's getting it down.

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[Plaza]
Eight, nine, ten, eleven.

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[Voight]
Oh, man. Look at this.

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-Look at this.
-13, 14.

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-[Voight] Look at this. Whoa.
-16. Look at him go.

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17, 18, 19,

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20, 21, 22...

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four, five, six,
seven, eight, nine,

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and that's good form, too.

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[Shia] I read the script.

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The first version I read
was about five years ago.

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He did a table read.

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-Whoa.
-That's not bad.

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That is not bad at all.

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And in the time from that
reading to this film,

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I had basically fucked
my whole life up.

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So I thought, you know,
I was in the midst

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of doing my ninth step
in this program

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I'm in, and I had to go
make amends to Voight

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because I had...

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Voight's politics and mine
are very different.

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I love him very much.

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He was like my mentor
from a young age.

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He was like the first
real actor I ever met.

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And he's the first one
who put me on to

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Hoffman's repertoire
and, you know,

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he would sit in a room with me

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and watch all
these movies back-to-back

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and, like, brought me,

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made fall in love
with the process

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and the craft
because before that

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I was just a poor kid
making money.

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We had a big fight
on the phone

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where I told him I was
going to come to his house

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and we were going to
fist fight.

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And I hung up the phone and
didn't talk to him for years.

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I look at you
as a potential heir

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to all that I have built.

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[Shia] And then when
I fell into this program

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he was like at
the top of my list

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of people I needed
to make amends to and...

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I love you very much.

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We get back to
the love that we had

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and in the midst of
that he's telling me

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he's getting ready to
start prepping this

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<i>Megalopolis.</i>

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He says, you know,
I hope you come with us

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and I'm thinking,

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"I love you but
you're delusional."

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Merry Christmas.

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I was beyond persona
non grata, I was nuclear.

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And so in my head
there was no fucking way

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I was going to be able
to take part in this project.

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Your sisters want you
to come here

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to meet someone
you don't know.

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[Shia] And then maybe
two weeks later

253
00:11:05,564 --> 00:11:06,965
I get a call saying,

254
00:11:06,999 --> 00:11:08,734
"Hey, Francis still wants
you to do this movie."

255
00:11:08,768 --> 00:11:11,804
But she's a good friend of
your older sister, Clodia,

256
00:11:11,837 --> 00:11:14,840
who you're sleeping with,
your own sister.

257
00:11:14,874 --> 00:11:16,309
I'm sleeping with
my own sister?

258
00:11:16,342 --> 00:11:18,043
Oh, yeah.
It's true by the way.

259
00:11:18,076 --> 00:11:19,478
He really was.

260
00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:25,451
Then I heard that eight
people wanted to come

261
00:11:25,484 --> 00:11:28,221
so that four bedrooms
wouldn't have been enough.

262
00:11:28,254 --> 00:11:31,023
So I looked around
at Peachtree City

263
00:11:31,056 --> 00:11:32,991
and I looked at some
bigger houses

264
00:11:33,025 --> 00:11:36,161
and then I heard, well,
it's really 15 people.

265
00:11:36,195 --> 00:11:38,831
So I said why don't
I just buy a hotel?

266
00:11:38,864 --> 00:11:41,434
So I got on the internet
and I said a hotel

267
00:11:41,467 --> 00:11:44,337
in Peachtree City
and sure enough

268
00:11:44,370 --> 00:11:47,206
one came up
called a Days Inn.

269
00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,608
These are like a motel.

270
00:11:49,642 --> 00:11:51,744
Bottom line is that I decided,

271
00:11:51,777 --> 00:11:54,647
well, it doesn't only
have to have nice suites.

272
00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:56,849
It could also have a
beautiful projection room

273
00:11:56,882 --> 00:11:58,884
-if I knocked out...
-[Figgis] Sure.

274
00:11:58,918 --> 00:12:01,754
If I took three rooms
and I make a big...

275
00:12:01,787 --> 00:12:03,088
and I can show it to you.

276
00:12:03,121 --> 00:12:05,291
Big screen where I can
have the editors

277
00:12:05,325 --> 00:12:07,092
and I could have
a recording studio

278
00:12:07,125 --> 00:12:08,994
and I could
have a rehearsal room.

279
00:12:09,027 --> 00:12:11,230
It's all show business.
It's all the same.

280
00:12:11,264 --> 00:12:13,766
There are sets.
There are guests, audience.

281
00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:17,135
There's the crew.
They're doing the gardening.

282
00:12:17,169 --> 00:12:18,537
There's the cast.

283
00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:20,038
There are the people
who meet the people.

284
00:12:20,072 --> 00:12:22,842
So it's all...
and there's the press.

285
00:12:22,875 --> 00:12:24,176
[Figgis]
This project has been around

286
00:12:24,209 --> 00:12:25,611
for a while in your mind.

287
00:12:25,644 --> 00:12:27,680
In my mind, incubating. Yes.

288
00:12:27,713 --> 00:12:31,650
And... I don't know,
maybe 30 years.

289
00:12:31,684 --> 00:12:33,819
I'm Bob DeNiro from New York

290
00:12:33,853 --> 00:12:36,389
and I'm happy to be here

291
00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:38,090
and I didn't read
the script but I told Francis

292
00:12:38,123 --> 00:12:40,225
that it doesn't matter.
I'll still do a good job.

293
00:12:40,259 --> 00:12:42,362
[laughing]

294
00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:45,230
I'm Uma Thurman
and I was born in Boston.

295
00:12:45,264 --> 00:12:48,768
My name is Billy Crudup and
I thought I was reading Clod.

296
00:12:48,801 --> 00:12:50,736
So this is going to
be interesting.

297
00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,538
I looked at my calendar.

298
00:12:52,571 --> 00:12:54,206
I think we start shooting
in two weeks, right?

299
00:12:54,239 --> 00:12:55,708
Right.

300
00:12:55,741 --> 00:12:58,378
And I'm looking at this
and is it going to be ready?

301
00:12:58,878 --> 00:13:00,413
[camera shutter clicks]

302
00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:03,682
Story revolves around Cesar
who has invented

303
00:13:03,716 --> 00:13:05,651
a miracle material
called Megalon

304
00:13:05,684 --> 00:13:08,721
that will allow him to build
a utopian city of the future.

305
00:13:08,754 --> 00:13:10,890
But he has an enemy
in the mayor, Cicero,

306
00:13:10,923 --> 00:13:12,658
who opposes this vision.

307
00:13:12,691 --> 00:13:14,960
Caught up in the middle is
the mayor's daughter, Julia,

308
00:13:14,994 --> 00:13:16,462
who falls in love with Caesar.

309
00:13:16,496 --> 00:13:18,931
Wow Platinum is a
TV celebrity reporter

310
00:13:18,964 --> 00:13:21,401
who plots to take over
the world's biggest bank

311
00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:23,769
controlled by
the aging Crassus,

312
00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:25,270
Uncle of Caesar.

313
00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:27,640
And then there is
Caesar's cousin, Clodio,

314
00:13:27,673 --> 00:13:28,808
who plots to overthrow him

315
00:13:28,841 --> 00:13:31,744
and take control
of everything.

316
00:13:31,777 --> 00:13:33,913
Get the fuck up, and get out!

317
00:13:35,548 --> 00:13:36,949
[Shia] It's bad enough
he won a Nobel,

318
00:13:36,982 --> 00:13:39,018
now you've made him
a fucking martyr!

319
00:13:39,051 --> 00:13:40,353
Close the door!

320
00:13:40,386 --> 00:13:42,988
Close the fucking door!

321
00:13:43,022 --> 00:13:44,490
[Figgis] How did you get
involved with this?

322
00:13:44,524 --> 00:13:46,926
What was that process?

323
00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:49,127
Well, I was in Italy

324
00:13:49,161 --> 00:13:51,096
and I was shooting
a television show

325
00:13:51,129 --> 00:13:52,598
called <i>White Lotus.</i>

326
00:13:52,631 --> 00:13:54,667
And I got the call
when I was there

327
00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:56,936
that they wanted me to
screen test for the movie.

328
00:13:56,969 --> 00:13:59,338
-So, Aubrey?
-Oh, Jesus.

329
00:13:59,372 --> 00:14:00,906
Where are you?
You're in Sicily?

330
00:14:00,940 --> 00:14:03,042
-I'm in Sicily.
-Wow.

331
00:14:03,075 --> 00:14:05,110
[Plaza] So, I had the weirdest
Zoom in my life with Francis.

332
00:14:05,143 --> 00:14:06,779
I'm gonna run
and get something.

333
00:14:06,812 --> 00:14:08,280
Take your time, sweetie.

334
00:14:08,313 --> 00:14:11,116
I don't... Whatever.

335
00:14:11,149 --> 00:14:15,588
Before the Zoom, he sent me
the script because he said,

336
00:14:15,621 --> 00:14:16,689
you know, a lot of
people read the script

337
00:14:16,722 --> 00:14:18,057
and they don't like it.

338
00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:19,492
And they don't want to do it.

339
00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:20,860
So, I want you
to read it first

340
00:14:20,893 --> 00:14:22,227
before you even try
to get the part.

341
00:14:22,260 --> 00:14:23,996
I read it and then
I emailed him back

342
00:14:24,029 --> 00:14:25,297
and I said,
this is a nightmare

343
00:14:25,330 --> 00:14:27,132
because it was
disturbing to me.

344
00:14:27,165 --> 00:14:28,834
And I meant it.

345
00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,803
But I liked it, but I was
like, this is a nightmare.

346
00:14:30,836 --> 00:14:32,304
And then he wrote me
back and he said,

347
00:14:32,337 --> 00:14:35,107
"How could you say my
movie is a nightmare?

348
00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:37,175
"My dear Aubrey,
how could you say this?"

349
00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:39,745
"I'm writing something
about hope."

350
00:14:39,778 --> 00:14:42,280
"This movie will
change the world."

351
00:14:42,314 --> 00:14:43,849
"This movie is
a positive movie."

352
00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:45,551
"It's got a positive message."

353
00:14:45,585 --> 00:14:48,220
And I had no idea what the
fuck he was talking about.

354
00:14:48,253 --> 00:14:49,955
[Francis] Okay,
we're gonna play a game.

355
00:14:49,989 --> 00:14:52,558
-All right.
-This is gonna be fun.

356
00:14:52,592 --> 00:14:55,595
So, don't worry.
You can't do bad in this.

357
00:14:55,628 --> 00:14:58,030
Listen, I can do it.
I can be funny.

358
00:14:58,063 --> 00:14:59,432
You know, that's
like my thing.

359
00:14:59,465 --> 00:15:00,833
I don't think
you're gonna find

360
00:15:00,866 --> 00:15:02,701
anyone else as funny as me.

361
00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:04,202
Come up with just a line.

362
00:15:04,236 --> 00:15:06,371
It could be any line at all.
Up to you.

363
00:15:06,405 --> 00:15:08,040
All right.

364
00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:11,209
How about, uh, you want to
know why I want this job?

365
00:15:11,243 --> 00:15:13,879
Because I got $70,000
of student loans.

366
00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:15,548
There's your fucking
answer right there.

367
00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:17,950
[Francis] I want you to now
say this line,

368
00:15:17,983 --> 00:15:20,653
but say it as if
you're the mad queen.

369
00:15:20,686 --> 00:15:23,188
You want to know why
I want this job?

370
00:15:23,221 --> 00:15:25,991
Because I've got
$70,000 of student debt.

371
00:15:26,025 --> 00:15:27,593
There's your fucking
answer right there.

372
00:15:27,627 --> 00:15:28,994
[Francis] Good.

373
00:15:29,028 --> 00:15:32,297
Francis, uh, was one
of the first to use

374
00:15:32,330 --> 00:15:34,700
videotape auditions.

375
00:15:34,733 --> 00:15:38,103
And often he would
have a camera here

376
00:15:38,137 --> 00:15:40,238
and a way to turn it on.

377
00:15:40,272 --> 00:15:43,142
And they wouldn't even
know that it was on or off.

378
00:15:43,175 --> 00:15:45,310
I love Harpo.

379
00:15:45,343 --> 00:15:48,180
But I'll kill him dead
before I let him beat me.

380
00:15:48,213 --> 00:15:50,415
That was the first line that
popped into my head.

381
00:15:50,449 --> 00:15:54,019
And then Francis then gave
me all of these scenarios.

382
00:15:54,053 --> 00:15:57,122
Like, say it as if your son

383
00:15:57,156 --> 00:15:59,858
has just come to tell you
he's going off to war.

384
00:15:59,892 --> 00:16:01,259
Now you're a
stand-up comedian.

385
00:16:01,293 --> 00:16:02,595
You're on the stage.

386
00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:03,862
This is the last joke
of the night.

387
00:16:03,896 --> 00:16:05,864
Because I got $70,000
of student debt.

388
00:16:05,898 --> 00:16:07,332
There's your fucking answer
right there.

389
00:16:07,365 --> 00:16:08,568
Thank you very much.

390
00:16:08,601 --> 00:16:09,535
Over and over and over.

391
00:16:09,569 --> 00:16:10,636
It was ridiculous.

392
00:16:10,670 --> 00:16:13,138
[Francis]
Can you now do it as Hamlet.

393
00:16:13,172 --> 00:16:16,542
I love Harpo.

394
00:16:16,576 --> 00:16:20,746
But I'll kill him dead
before I let him beat me.

395
00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:26,218
I've never had this kind
of an art department

396
00:16:26,251 --> 00:16:27,987
or this kind of a budget.

397
00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:29,555
But I'm able to be
helpful because I know

398
00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:31,924
what the director
is trying to do.

399
00:16:31,957 --> 00:16:33,291
And no one else does.

400
00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:35,293
You know how I work.

401
00:16:35,327 --> 00:16:37,295
Sometimes I understand it.
Sometimes I don't.

402
00:16:37,329 --> 00:16:38,964
Okay.

403
00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:40,132
I'd like to.

404
00:16:40,165 --> 00:16:41,867
You know, he had
a number in mind,

405
00:16:41,900 --> 00:16:44,637
which was a hundred million,
kind of in that vicinity,

406
00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:46,105
give or take.

407
00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:47,673
The first pass of the budget,

408
00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:50,375
I came in much leaner before
he revealed that number.

409
00:16:50,408 --> 00:16:53,078
I think we were at
60 and Francis

410
00:16:53,112 --> 00:16:54,446
wanted to open up the world
and give himself

411
00:16:54,479 --> 00:16:55,981
a little bit more time.

412
00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:58,117
So we sort of, we set a
hundred as an initial target.

413
00:16:58,150 --> 00:16:59,518
And we're a little
north of that now.

414
00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:02,354
So far, I feel like
I'm making a commercial.

415
00:17:02,387 --> 00:17:03,956
Doesn't feel like
I'm making a movie,

416
00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:06,058
much less a personal...
which this is.

417
00:17:06,091 --> 00:17:08,928
[Figgis] So going into
the shoot, what are the kind

418
00:17:08,961 --> 00:17:11,664
of safety nets that
would normally be there

419
00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:12,665
that are missing?

420
00:17:12,698 --> 00:17:13,899
Well, anybody who can say no.

421
00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:16,569
[tense music playing]

422
00:17:26,178 --> 00:17:28,447
[woman] Francis reached out
to me, it was an e-mail.

423
00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,950
It was one of the most
thrilling days of my career.

424
00:17:30,983 --> 00:17:33,586
I took a photo
of my laptop screen,

425
00:17:33,619 --> 00:17:36,455
and I sent it to my parents,
and nobody could believe it.

426
00:17:36,488 --> 00:17:39,124
And I called my agent to
ask if this really could be

427
00:17:39,157 --> 00:17:41,526
the real Francis Ford Coppola.

428
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,395
And it was quite an
honor to hear from him.

429
00:17:43,428 --> 00:17:46,031
But interestingly, I was
just about to start

430
00:17:46,065 --> 00:17:49,034
<i>Guardians of the Galaxy</i>
for Marvel and James Gunn,

431
00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:51,203
which was going to be a
year-and-a-half-long project.

432
00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:52,404
You know what that movie cost?

433
00:17:52,437 --> 00:17:53,639
[Figgis] Hm?

434
00:17:53,672 --> 00:17:55,373
I can't even tell you
because it's a secret,

435
00:17:55,407 --> 00:17:59,011
but it's north of $375 million

436
00:17:59,044 --> 00:18:00,946
they're saying it costs.

437
00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:02,648
And my initial reaction
was heartbreak,

438
00:18:02,681 --> 00:18:04,316
that I wasn't going to
be available.

439
00:18:04,349 --> 00:18:06,418
And just much to
my thrill and delight,

440
00:18:06,451 --> 00:18:09,755
he came back and said
he was in no rush

441
00:18:09,789 --> 00:18:11,090
and that he still
had some casting to do

442
00:18:11,123 --> 00:18:12,357
and some work on the script

443
00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:14,226
and said he was
willing to hang tight

444
00:18:14,259 --> 00:18:16,095
while I was
finishing this movie.

445
00:18:16,128 --> 00:18:17,329
So I read the script.

446
00:18:17,362 --> 00:18:19,098
I thought it was
incredibly original.

447
00:18:19,131 --> 00:18:20,499
I'd never read
anything like it.

448
00:18:20,532 --> 00:18:21,934
I loved how bold it was.

449
00:18:21,967 --> 00:18:23,468
I loved that he was
swinging for the fences

450
00:18:23,502 --> 00:18:24,536
with all the scenes.

451
00:18:24,569 --> 00:18:26,204
And I remember thinking,

452
00:18:26,238 --> 00:18:27,606
I really hope he wants to
do that with the visuals.

453
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,042
And fortunately,
yes, he wants this

454
00:18:30,075 --> 00:18:31,744
to feel big
and wants to feel epic.

455
00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:34,513
But we are still circling
around what Mega looks like

456
00:18:34,546 --> 00:18:36,081
and how we're going to
approach it.

457
00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,851
With the movie being
named <i>Megalopolis,</i>

458
00:18:38,884 --> 00:18:40,853
and with trying to get
this great big grand vision

459
00:18:40,886 --> 00:18:43,155
of a world nobody's
seen before,

460
00:18:43,188 --> 00:18:46,659
it's, I think, equal parts
exciting and distressing

461
00:18:46,692 --> 00:18:48,694
that we're still figuring
that out at this point.

462
00:18:55,701 --> 00:18:57,936
-I think that's my goal here.
-Okay.

463
00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:58,971
Are your ears pierced?

464
00:18:59,004 --> 00:19:00,072
No, they're not.

465
00:19:33,538 --> 00:19:34,506
[Figgis] Cheeky.

466
00:19:34,539 --> 00:19:37,176
-Hi, Mike.
-[Figgis] Hi.

467
00:19:37,209 --> 00:19:38,543
I'm here for you.

468
00:19:38,577 --> 00:19:40,512
[chuckles, speaks indistinct]

469
00:19:41,346 --> 00:19:43,582
[man] We have some gentlemen
ready for you to review.

470
00:19:43,615 --> 00:19:45,450
If you like, they're back
with hair and makeup.

471
00:19:45,483 --> 00:19:46,785
[Milena] The clothes are okay.

472
00:19:46,819 --> 00:19:49,955
-Okay.
-And you should do the hair.

473
00:19:49,988 --> 00:19:51,690
[man]
How would you like the hair?

474
00:19:51,724 --> 00:19:53,358
[Milena] Short. Roman.

475
00:19:53,392 --> 00:19:55,227
-More cut?
-Yes.

476
00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:57,029
We take normal tuxedo,

477
00:19:57,062 --> 00:19:59,164
and then we're done
with the facing

478
00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:02,234
with all different
type of design.

479
00:20:02,267 --> 00:20:06,671
Most of the design comes from
Roman, antique Roman mosaic.

480
00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:08,841
But usually we do
a complete look,

481
00:20:08,874 --> 00:20:10,809
makeup and hair and costume.

482
00:20:10,843 --> 00:20:12,510
[Figgis] The way you would
always work on a film,

483
00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:14,012
that you'd combine hair
and makeup with...

484
00:20:14,046 --> 00:20:15,347
Oh, yeah, always.

485
00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:17,616
Since my first movie, always.

486
00:20:17,649 --> 00:20:19,251
[Figgis] Really?

487
00:20:19,284 --> 00:20:22,054
Well, I mean, how can I do you
without knowing who you are?

488
00:20:22,087 --> 00:20:23,122
[Figgis] Sure.

489
00:20:23,155 --> 00:20:24,757
I start with this
and then here.

490
00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:28,227
-[Figgis] Yeah.
-You know, the same thing.

491
00:20:28,260 --> 00:20:29,728
I think you start
with the head.

492
00:20:29,762 --> 00:20:31,931
[bell rings]

493
00:20:31,964 --> 00:20:35,234
I'm here because Francis
said some words to me

494
00:20:35,267 --> 00:20:37,402
about six months ago
that I really loved.

495
00:20:37,436 --> 00:20:39,071
We were talking
about another project,

496
00:20:39,104 --> 00:20:40,239
and then that didn't work out,

497
00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:41,706
and I basically said to him,

498
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:44,143
look, Francis, anything
that heals the world,

499
00:20:44,176 --> 00:20:45,343
I'm going to do.

500
00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:46,678
-[Figgis] Okay.
-And so he said, "Oh,

501
00:20:46,711 --> 00:20:49,014
I want to
heal the world, too."

502
00:20:49,047 --> 00:20:52,451
Techniques he uses,
which are just brilliant

503
00:20:52,484 --> 00:20:54,153
from my point of view,

504
00:20:54,186 --> 00:20:55,520
because I've done a
lot of experimentation

505
00:20:55,553 --> 00:20:57,957
with alternate movement
and body therapy

506
00:20:57,990 --> 00:21:01,126
and all the games
you play in therapy

507
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,662
and all these things
are the same games

508
00:21:03,695 --> 00:21:05,831
you play with actors.

509
00:21:05,864 --> 00:21:07,732
He's playing in
the one foot in theatrical,

510
00:21:07,766 --> 00:21:09,367
one foot in cinema,

511
00:21:09,401 --> 00:21:12,204
and he's straddling
that line, and I do both.

512
00:21:12,237 --> 00:21:15,340
So I understood what
he was talking about.

513
00:21:16,976 --> 00:21:19,544
Move! Next one.

514
00:21:19,577 --> 00:21:22,014
Move!

515
00:21:22,047 --> 00:21:24,216
A lot happened
where Francis really

516
00:21:24,249 --> 00:21:26,451
was giving
an anthropology lesson,

517
00:21:26,485 --> 00:21:28,187
and we just talked
about these ideas.

518
00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:30,222
In the Madison Square Garden,

519
00:21:30,255 --> 00:21:31,890
which is also
the Roman Coliseum

520
00:21:31,924 --> 00:21:34,259
and all these
relationships between

521
00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:36,461
modern-day New York City
and Rome,

522
00:21:36,495 --> 00:21:37,362
the Rome Republic.

523
00:21:37,395 --> 00:21:41,934
[hip hop music plays]

524
00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:44,069
The celebration of
the wedding of Crassus

525
00:21:44,102 --> 00:21:47,139
and, wow, is a scene
where it's like

526
00:21:47,172 --> 00:21:49,107
he's the most powerful
person in New York City

527
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:51,810
and the mayor, and everyone's
coming to celebrate,

528
00:21:51,844 --> 00:21:52,911
and they're going to celebrate
this whole thing.

529
00:21:52,945 --> 00:21:54,612
And columns come in.

530
00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:56,548
Roman columns come in
and float in to cover...

531
00:21:56,581 --> 00:21:59,051
basically the slaves
are on stilts.

532
00:21:59,084 --> 00:22:00,986
You don't see it,
but then they walk away.

533
00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:02,087
So you go, huh?

534
00:22:02,120 --> 00:22:04,189
It's this theatrical joke

535
00:22:04,223 --> 00:22:06,325
and this punch in the gut
at the same time.

536
00:22:06,358 --> 00:22:09,194
I love it because
I'm a dreamer as well

537
00:22:09,228 --> 00:22:11,296
as much as I can be,
and then there's a pragmatist.

538
00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:13,665
And Francis said, too,
I'm a pragmatist.

539
00:22:13,698 --> 00:22:15,467
But when you talk
to Francis at times,

540
00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:16,634
he's the biggest dreamer.

541
00:22:16,668 --> 00:22:18,303
And we talked about this being

542
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:21,540
a very magnificent
large scene.

543
00:22:21,573 --> 00:22:22,541
Everything's here
for a reason.

544
00:22:22,574 --> 00:22:24,343
I'm here for a reason.

545
00:22:24,376 --> 00:22:26,811
And I guess the reason is to
help Francis with his vision,

546
00:22:26,845 --> 00:22:29,014
but also to give this moment

547
00:22:29,048 --> 00:22:30,815
that people may look
back in 30 years

548
00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:32,717
and say, God, you got
to go back and watch that

549
00:22:32,751 --> 00:22:35,087
Madison Square Garden
scene in Francis'

550
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,055
movie <i>Megalopolis.</i>

551
00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:38,156
[woman] George, take one.

552
00:22:38,623 --> 00:22:40,492
[Figgis] So I'm watching
Francis in Atlanta

553
00:22:40,525 --> 00:22:42,561
spend $120 million.

554
00:22:42,594 --> 00:22:44,829
That's how I started.
That's how I started.

555
00:22:44,863 --> 00:22:48,300
I mean, my whole career is
based on watching Francis.

556
00:22:48,333 --> 00:22:50,202
Tell us about your young
assistant, George Lucas.

557
00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:51,669
[Francis] Associate, okay.

558
00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:55,074
George won an award to
come to Warner Brothers

559
00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:56,808
and observe a film
being made there.

560
00:22:56,841 --> 00:22:58,676
And he came when we were
making <i>Finnegan's Rainbow.</i>

561
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:59,945
And I kept seeing the
skinny kid with a beard

562
00:22:59,978 --> 00:23:01,479
and he was always looking.

563
00:23:01,513 --> 00:23:04,116
[Lucas] I sort of followed in
Francis's footsteps.

564
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:06,251
What he does, then I do.

565
00:23:06,285 --> 00:23:11,290
Francis produced <i>THX-1138,</i>
George's movie.

566
00:23:11,323 --> 00:23:12,958
<i>American Graffiti,</i>

567
00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:15,360
which was, I think,
the biggest grossing film

568
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,629
for its budget of all time.

569
00:23:17,662 --> 00:23:20,232
[Figgis] What was your first
impression of Francis?

570
00:23:20,265 --> 00:23:23,868
Uh... flamboyant. [chuckles]

571
00:23:23,902 --> 00:23:25,270
He is flamboyant.

572
00:23:25,304 --> 00:23:28,506
You know, he's
the opposite of me,

573
00:23:28,540 --> 00:23:30,542
which is I guess
why we got along so well.

574
00:23:30,575 --> 00:23:35,547
I'm plodding along,
careful where I'm doing,

575
00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:37,682
you know, plan it out,

576
00:23:37,715 --> 00:23:40,352
and he's a
jump-off-the-cliff guy.

577
00:23:40,385 --> 00:23:45,424
This is an
electronic storyboard.

578
00:23:45,457 --> 00:23:47,826
[Lucas] Francis has been
very interested

579
00:23:47,859 --> 00:23:49,995
in trying to
advance the medium.

580
00:23:50,028 --> 00:23:51,563
[Francis]
What I want to do, I think,

581
00:23:51,596 --> 00:23:54,099
is I want to walk around
all of these storyboards.

582
00:23:54,133 --> 00:23:55,400
[Lucas] As I have
been very interested

583
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:56,601
in advancing the medium.

584
00:23:56,635 --> 00:23:58,270
As I'm hearing the movie,

585
00:23:58,303 --> 00:23:59,871
and let's say these
all have numbers on them.

586
00:23:59,904 --> 00:24:01,206
[Lucas] You know, the whole,

587
00:24:01,239 --> 00:24:03,041
I'll finance these
movies myself,

588
00:24:03,075 --> 00:24:05,377
that started with
<i>Apocalypse Now.</i>

589
00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:06,911
13, 15.

590
00:24:06,945 --> 00:24:07,912
[Lucas] And then he said,
well, I'll start

591
00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:09,614
a studio and, you know...

592
00:24:09,648 --> 00:24:12,384
Just say these numbers, more
or less editing the movie.

593
00:24:12,417 --> 00:24:14,886
[Lucas] He's idealistic,

594
00:24:14,919 --> 00:24:16,888
but idealistic
in the artistic sense.

595
00:24:16,921 --> 00:24:18,523
And I said, well, yeah, but

596
00:24:18,556 --> 00:24:20,659
you've got to be
practical about it.

597
00:24:20,692 --> 00:24:22,260
Uh, I mean,
that's the difference.

598
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:26,198
I mean, I built blocks,
financial blocks,

599
00:24:26,231 --> 00:24:28,266
to be able to get to a point

600
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:29,801
where I could finance
my own movies,

601
00:24:29,834 --> 00:24:33,638
have my own studio,
and not listen to the majors.

602
00:24:33,672 --> 00:24:36,074
[Francis] And then people can
take this unit,

603
00:24:36,108 --> 00:24:38,110
which is a disc storage.

604
00:24:38,143 --> 00:24:39,444
[Lucas] He just said,
no, I'll just

605
00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:40,712
jump off the cliff
and we'll do it.

606
00:24:40,745 --> 00:24:42,580
[Francis]
Let's say I push button 13,

607
00:24:42,614 --> 00:24:45,783
that will give me that
picture on the screen.

608
00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:47,886
And so you can edit
with the actual

609
00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:49,688
sketches of the storyboard.

610
00:24:49,721 --> 00:24:51,023
So when you're done,
you'll have

611
00:24:51,056 --> 00:24:53,291
a whole little
miniature movie.

612
00:24:53,958 --> 00:24:57,129
He had the feeling

613
00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:58,863
that he was sort
of invincible.

614
00:25:00,098 --> 00:25:02,467
[Francis]
After <i>Apocalypse Now,</i>

615
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:05,337
my reasons for doing this work

616
00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:06,471
are different than
they used to be.

617
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,306
They're not related to career,

618
00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:12,177
or they're not related to be
an important film director,

619
00:25:12,211 --> 00:25:14,146
or to continue to be an
important film director.

620
00:25:14,179 --> 00:25:18,783
They're more related to
my own personal education.

621
00:25:18,816 --> 00:25:20,952
You know, what the nature of
existence is,

622
00:25:20,985 --> 00:25:23,588
what the nature of
being a human being is.

623
00:25:23,621 --> 00:25:26,391
To do your work
as hard as you can

624
00:25:26,425 --> 00:25:27,692
and as passionately
as you can,

625
00:25:27,726 --> 00:25:28,893
but to always do it
beautifully.

626
00:25:28,927 --> 00:25:33,265
After the studio collapsed,
um,

627
00:25:33,298 --> 00:25:36,034
Francis started
writing <i>Megalopolis.</i>

628
00:25:36,068 --> 00:25:39,704
It's so much about
Francis's dream,

629
00:25:39,738 --> 00:25:42,374
the way it didn't happen,
the way it did happen.

630
00:25:42,407 --> 00:25:44,309
And this is a dream Francis

631
00:25:44,342 --> 00:25:47,379
has been revising
his whole life.

632
00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:51,783
And that is what
<i>Megalopolis</i>  really is.

633
00:25:51,816 --> 00:25:53,918
I tell you,
between the two of us,

634
00:25:53,952 --> 00:25:56,821
no one I'm working
with that I think of

635
00:25:56,854 --> 00:25:59,324
in this whole group realizes

636
00:25:59,357 --> 00:26:01,260
how weird a movie
this really is.

637
00:26:01,293 --> 00:26:04,329
[jazzy music playing]

638
00:26:13,371 --> 00:26:14,839
[woman] Good morning.

639
00:26:14,872 --> 00:26:16,508
[Francis] Good morning,
good morning, good morning.

640
00:26:16,541 --> 00:26:18,143
We need a big circle.

641
00:26:18,176 --> 00:26:21,513
Everyone stand around
and we're going to hold hands

642
00:26:21,546 --> 00:26:25,950
so you're touching
everybody on the show.

643
00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:28,353
[woman] Everybody on the show!

644
00:26:28,386 --> 00:26:30,489
All right, listen
to this folks.

645
00:26:30,522 --> 00:26:33,825
So we're here to begin
this wonderful adventure.

646
00:26:33,858 --> 00:26:36,328
I want to say this
is something

647
00:26:36,361 --> 00:26:38,530
I've done since
I'm 16 years old

648
00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:39,964
and all my family have done.

649
00:26:39,998 --> 00:26:41,733
It's called the Poabah.

650
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:44,035
And what it's about,
it's about safety

651
00:26:44,068 --> 00:26:46,305
that we work on a show
and no one is ever hurt.

652
00:26:46,338 --> 00:26:48,573
[woman] Everybody make sure
you're touching each other.

653
00:26:48,607 --> 00:26:49,707
Ready?

654
00:26:49,741 --> 00:26:52,910
[all] Poabah. Poabah. Poabah.

655
00:26:52,944 --> 00:26:54,846
[cheering]

656
00:26:54,879 --> 00:26:57,149
[jazzy music playing]

657
00:26:59,618 --> 00:27:03,155
Okay. Now the bad news.

658
00:27:03,188 --> 00:27:06,158
We're going to get
the first shot by 9:30.

659
00:27:06,191 --> 00:27:09,461
-Watch us do it.
-[man] Yeah!

660
00:27:09,494 --> 00:27:11,229
[applause]

661
00:27:12,197 --> 00:27:14,065
[woman] All right, guys,
here we go everybody.

662
00:27:14,098 --> 00:27:16,635
Let's get in position.
Traffic is locked.

663
00:27:16,668 --> 00:27:17,836
Let's roll sound.

664
00:27:17,869 --> 00:27:20,071
Ready and action.

665
00:27:20,104 --> 00:27:22,707
[gunshots]

666
00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:24,942
[engine revving]

667
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:30,448
[Francis] And cut. Good.
Okay. Next case.

668
00:27:34,152 --> 00:27:36,355
Ready, action.

669
00:27:36,388 --> 00:27:37,455
[whistling]

670
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,262
Do pick up my hat.

671
00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:46,665
Throw it on the ground and
say "Pick up my hat," okay?

672
00:27:46,698 --> 00:27:47,699
Like we did in the game.

673
00:27:47,732 --> 00:27:51,703
-Pick up my hat.
-Pick up my hat.

674
00:27:51,736 --> 00:27:54,206
[Francis] Movie making
is not work. It's play.

675
00:27:54,239 --> 00:27:56,375
Everything human beings
have ever done

676
00:27:56,408 --> 00:27:58,776
throughout history
that was worth anything

677
00:27:58,810 --> 00:28:00,412
came about during play.

678
00:28:00,445 --> 00:28:02,347
Never work, never toil.

679
00:28:02,381 --> 00:28:04,282
Toil gives you nothing.

680
00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:06,117
Play gives you everything.

681
00:28:06,150 --> 00:28:08,986
[dramatic music playing]

682
00:28:25,570 --> 00:28:27,805
[Figgis]
His style of filmmaking

683
00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:29,341
is very instinctive.

684
00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:32,544
And it's about having
a thing called a script,

685
00:28:32,577 --> 00:28:35,813
which basically
gets you to cast the actors,

686
00:28:35,847 --> 00:28:37,449
choose the locations.

687
00:28:37,482 --> 00:28:40,352
It gives you a blueprint
of a structure.

688
00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:42,019
Then he builds on top of that.

689
00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:43,655
So when he starts shooting,

690
00:28:43,688 --> 00:28:45,257
he'll do a couple of
takes and he'll go

691
00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:46,891
just do a crazy take now.

692
00:28:46,925 --> 00:28:48,460
Let's change this.

693
00:28:48,493 --> 00:28:50,061
So he's building all the time.

694
00:28:50,094 --> 00:28:51,663
Kind of like a
jazz musician in a way.

695
00:28:51,696 --> 00:28:54,733
You know, he's like,
here's some chords

696
00:28:54,766 --> 00:28:56,301
and now I'm gonna
make the melody.

697
00:28:56,334 --> 00:28:57,736
[bell rings]

698
00:28:57,769 --> 00:29:00,104
[Francis] This is your house,
your elevator.

699
00:29:00,138 --> 00:29:02,607
Your everything, Wow.
This, you own this.

700
00:29:02,941 --> 00:29:04,909
And.... action.

701
00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:09,213
Listen, you little bitch.

702
00:29:09,247 --> 00:29:11,683
You and I ought to have
an understanding, okay?

703
00:29:11,716 --> 00:29:13,285
You are on my territory now.

704
00:29:13,318 --> 00:29:14,886
And you'll play by my rules.

705
00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:16,455
-Really?
-Yes.

706
00:29:18,823 --> 00:29:21,293
Crass, darling.

707
00:29:21,326 --> 00:29:22,494
The mayor's daughter is here,

708
00:29:22,527 --> 00:29:25,297
she wants to talk to
you about Catalina.

709
00:29:25,330 --> 00:29:26,765
[Plaza] He's a really
weird combination

710
00:29:26,798 --> 00:29:31,603
of being very open
to experimentation...

711
00:29:31,636 --> 00:29:33,237
[Francis Okay, cut, print.

712
00:29:33,271 --> 00:29:35,974
[Plaza] And also very
controlled and aggressively

713
00:29:36,007 --> 00:29:37,509
wanting what he wants.

714
00:29:37,542 --> 00:29:40,345
[Francis]
Here we go. And action.

715
00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:49,754
[Wow] Listen, bitch.

716
00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:50,755
You and I ought to have
an understanding.

717
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:51,856
[Francis] Okay, cut. Okay...

718
00:29:51,889 --> 00:29:53,325
[Plaza] I hated that.

719
00:29:53,358 --> 00:29:55,159
[Francis] You hated it?
That means it's wonderful.

720
00:29:55,193 --> 00:29:56,861
We'll do another one.

721
00:29:56,894 --> 00:29:58,863
Okay, I'm going to
give you a last one

722
00:29:58,896 --> 00:30:00,665
here in this take.

723
00:30:00,699 --> 00:30:02,467
And I want you to
be able to do

724
00:30:02,501 --> 00:30:04,602
anything you want
to do whatsoever.

725
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:06,338
You don't even have to
say the lines.

726
00:30:06,371 --> 00:30:07,872
You can just
stand there quietly.

727
00:30:07,905 --> 00:30:09,774
Whatever you want to do,
you can do it.

728
00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:11,209
Totally free one.

729
00:30:12,577 --> 00:30:14,779
[Plaza] I feel like I speak
the same language.

730
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:16,548
You know, when he tells me
to be a spider, take two.

731
00:30:16,581 --> 00:30:19,351
You know, this time,
be a spider.

732
00:30:19,384 --> 00:30:20,785
You know, you're a spider.

733
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:22,387
She's a fly on the wall.

734
00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:23,688
That really works for me.

735
00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:25,690
[Francis]
So now you're Rapunzel,

736
00:30:25,724 --> 00:30:29,327
but you're Rapunzel
with a side of Wow.

737
00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:31,062
[Figgis] He's sort of kind
of put this kind of weird

738
00:30:31,095 --> 00:30:33,931
experimental theater
ensemble together.

739
00:30:33,965 --> 00:30:35,800
[Plaza] That's exactly
how it feels to me.

740
00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:37,301
[Francis laughing]

741
00:30:37,335 --> 00:30:38,537
[Plaza]
The first time we rehearsed,

742
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:40,038
we had dinner
and he just said,

743
00:30:40,071 --> 00:30:41,673
I, you know,
this group of actors

744
00:30:41,706 --> 00:30:43,241
is really crazy.

745
00:30:43,274 --> 00:30:45,142
You know, I like to bring
crazy actors together

746
00:30:45,176 --> 00:30:46,944
because you never know
what will happen.

747
00:30:46,978 --> 00:30:49,146
And I was...
and going into this,

748
00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:51,249
I thought this is
a loaded situation.

749
00:30:51,282 --> 00:30:53,084
So they shot
something the other day

750
00:30:53,117 --> 00:30:56,888
called poor man's process
in a big studio.

751
00:30:56,921 --> 00:31:01,359
Nighttime, a car
driving in rain.

752
00:31:01,393 --> 00:31:03,361
I enjoyed filming
that very, very much.

753
00:31:03,395 --> 00:31:05,497
[indistinct chattering]

754
00:31:07,164 --> 00:31:09,534
It's going to be better if
we have a guy holding it

755
00:31:09,568 --> 00:31:10,769
so we can put it...

756
00:31:10,802 --> 00:31:12,203
[Figgis] For me,
the fascination with

757
00:31:12,236 --> 00:31:14,038
this kind of filmmaking
is how do you coordinate

758
00:31:14,072 --> 00:31:19,043
all these people and make
them work as one team.

759
00:31:19,077 --> 00:31:21,112
It's better to have your
hands on this stuff.

760
00:31:23,081 --> 00:31:24,649
[Figgis] What's going
on here, Francis?

761
00:31:24,682 --> 00:31:26,984
This is...
Well, we're experimenting.

762
00:31:27,018 --> 00:31:28,653
Of course, you know
poor man's process

763
00:31:28,686 --> 00:31:30,422
where they make it
look in the dark.

764
00:31:30,455 --> 00:31:31,956
It looks like there
are lights going by.

765
00:31:31,989 --> 00:31:34,626
We're trying to see
what we can learn

766
00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:36,994
when it also,
there's scenic pieces

767
00:31:37,028 --> 00:31:39,431
and it's all sort of a...

768
00:31:39,464 --> 00:31:42,366
It's really sort of
a theatrical concoction

769
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,968
but in the light
and the darkness

770
00:31:44,001 --> 00:31:46,905
it's believable as
moving through the rain

771
00:31:46,938 --> 00:31:49,541
through these cars
and passing buildings,

772
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:52,777
but the buildings are
just sort of scenic,

773
00:31:52,811 --> 00:31:55,747
rolling, as we don't
know what we're doing.

774
00:31:55,780 --> 00:31:57,549
But when we look at it
what looks good,

775
00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:59,283
we'll do more of

776
00:31:59,317 --> 00:32:01,018
and what doesn't look good
we'll do less of.

777
00:32:01,052 --> 00:32:02,854
It's like the old
days which is

778
00:32:02,887 --> 00:32:06,524
now producers say, hey,
what can we do different?

779
00:32:06,558 --> 00:32:10,128
I say, well, let's just do
it for real like we used to.

780
00:32:10,161 --> 00:32:11,529
That's different.

781
00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:14,499
And all of us learn
that we can be collaborative

782
00:32:14,532 --> 00:32:16,400
and try ideas
and do it together

783
00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:19,137
and learn from each other.

784
00:32:19,170 --> 00:32:21,205
[jazzy music playing]

785
00:32:41,092 --> 00:32:42,894
[Francis on radio]
<i>Driving around town,</i>

786
00:32:42,927 --> 00:32:44,295
<i>general's driving,</i>
<i>looking anywhere,</i>

787
00:32:44,328 --> 00:32:45,296
<i>looking here, looking there.</i>

788
00:32:45,329 --> 00:32:47,131
<i>She may be anywhere.</i>

789
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:50,168
Oh, there's Cesar
on the other side.

790
00:32:50,201 --> 00:32:52,971
Look at his stupid
Citroen. See him?

791
00:32:53,004 --> 00:32:55,807
<i>Take photos, take photos.</i>

792
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,876
There's some
headlights coming past there.

793
00:33:01,713 --> 00:33:03,481
Any headlights I can see,

794
00:33:03,515 --> 00:33:05,416
any headlights at all,
I don't see any.

795
00:33:05,449 --> 00:33:06,818
Is someone holding them?

796
00:33:06,851 --> 00:33:09,053
Have them come right up
to the window with them.

797
00:33:11,556 --> 00:33:13,725
Okay, cut.

798
00:33:13,758 --> 00:33:15,026
This doesn't work.

799
00:33:15,059 --> 00:33:16,928
-Roman.
-Yes.

800
00:33:16,961 --> 00:33:19,063
Do any rig you think of,
just run it through it.

801
00:33:19,096 --> 00:33:22,667
-Just keep upping the stakes.
-Okay.

802
00:33:22,701 --> 00:33:25,003
[Francis] I'm asking them
to play at it more

803
00:33:25,036 --> 00:33:26,237
and they want to work at it.

804
00:33:26,604 --> 00:33:29,207
So now we got the idea
what we're up against.

805
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,608
We're doing a performance.

806
00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:33,444
We have to have more assets
that you could just

807
00:33:33,477 --> 00:33:35,146
go right up and hold them
and go away.

808
00:33:35,179 --> 00:33:36,214
So let's do it that way.

809
00:33:36,247 --> 00:33:38,683
[upbeat music playing]

810
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,155
<i>Julia?</i>

811
00:33:44,989 --> 00:33:47,025
<i>I love you, Julia.</i>

812
00:34:04,275 --> 00:34:05,710
Marker.

813
00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:07,311
And ready, action.

814
00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:10,648
Perfect.

815
00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:18,122
Julia?

816
00:34:18,155 --> 00:34:19,991
Come, come.

817
00:34:21,025 --> 00:34:23,327
Forgive the intrusion,
I'd hoped to speak briefly

818
00:34:23,361 --> 00:34:24,829
with Mr. Crassus.

819
00:34:24,863 --> 00:34:26,430
Sure.

820
00:34:26,464 --> 00:34:27,966
Cut. Good, print.

821
00:34:27,999 --> 00:34:29,601
[overlapping dialogue]

822
00:34:34,405 --> 00:34:35,773
-Hi, Mike.
-[Figgis] Morning, guys.

823
00:34:35,807 --> 00:34:37,508
What's happening
with you guys today?

824
00:34:37,541 --> 00:34:38,743
We're experimenting.

825
00:34:38,776 --> 00:34:40,111
We're in the workshop mode.

826
00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:41,679
But my dad called this morning

827
00:34:41,713 --> 00:34:43,882
and said, oh, I want
to do an effect

828
00:34:43,915 --> 00:34:47,085
where this character has
a sort of multiple facets

829
00:34:47,118 --> 00:34:51,188
and you see multiple imagery.

830
00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:54,425
So we set up these mirrors
and experimenting a bit

831
00:34:54,458 --> 00:34:56,494
to try to create a sort
of infinity effect

832
00:34:56,527 --> 00:34:58,529
that also includes
the background,

833
00:34:58,562 --> 00:34:59,964
which is kind of
curious because we have

834
00:34:59,998 --> 00:35:03,801
a 50-50 mirror
we can see through them

835
00:35:03,835 --> 00:35:06,570
or have it reflect depending
on where the light is.

836
00:35:06,605 --> 00:35:08,940
So the idea is that
we'll have a mirror effect,

837
00:35:08,973 --> 00:35:10,909
but when we throw the light,

838
00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:12,877
we'll also see the background.

839
00:35:12,911 --> 00:35:14,245
[Figgis]
Have you done this before?

840
00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:15,546
No.

841
00:35:15,579 --> 00:35:17,115
Laura, you're going to
be our super amazing...

842
00:35:17,982 --> 00:35:19,550
Can Roman come here?

843
00:35:19,583 --> 00:35:20,885
[woman] Yes.

844
00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:23,087
And... to see
what we're doing.

845
00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:24,255
-And Till is here, right?
-Yes.

846
00:35:24,288 --> 00:35:25,757
Good.

847
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:30,461
Francis has this beautiful
love for in-camera effects

848
00:35:30,494 --> 00:35:33,330
and trying to do it for real

849
00:35:33,364 --> 00:35:34,866
before going digital.

850
00:35:34,899 --> 00:35:37,201
And so our first idea was me

851
00:35:37,234 --> 00:35:41,706
and Scott Wheeler, the makeup
and prosthetics person,

852
00:35:41,739 --> 00:35:43,975
to figure out
a lenticular mask.

853
00:35:44,008 --> 00:35:49,513
So to print these postcards
that you can shift

854
00:35:49,547 --> 00:35:51,615
and you get perspective
and animation into it.

855
00:35:51,649 --> 00:35:54,953
And we worked on that
intensely for many weeks

856
00:35:54,986 --> 00:35:57,755
until last week,
end of last week,

857
00:35:57,789 --> 00:35:59,223
it fell apart
because we could not

858
00:35:59,256 --> 00:36:01,425
physically integrate
that into the mask.

859
00:36:01,459 --> 00:36:04,028
It didn't work to
cut it and form it.

860
00:36:04,062 --> 00:36:07,331
So Friday we had a meeting
with Francis and we're like,

861
00:36:07,364 --> 00:36:10,068
okay, the lenticular mask
isn't working.

862
00:36:10,101 --> 00:36:12,904
We need a solution.

863
00:36:12,937 --> 00:36:17,809
And Francis had the great
idea to do a projection

864
00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:20,544
and luckily...

865
00:36:20,578 --> 00:36:23,280
luckily I have worked
with projection a lot.

866
00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:25,216
I'm usually as a concept
artist on this show,

867
00:36:25,249 --> 00:36:26,851
but I had done lots
of art installations

868
00:36:26,884 --> 00:36:27,852
with projections.

869
00:36:27,885 --> 00:36:29,353
So I was immediately on it

870
00:36:29,386 --> 00:36:32,256
and then we figured it out
over the weekend.

871
00:36:32,289 --> 00:36:34,092
Do you like these things?

872
00:36:34,125 --> 00:36:38,395
Yeah, I like it especially if
something spectacular happens.

873
00:36:38,429 --> 00:36:40,732
[woman] Let's try it like this
while we wait for the mirror.

874
00:36:40,765 --> 00:36:42,266
Can you adjust
the head support?

875
00:36:42,299 --> 00:36:43,735
Make the thing
holding his head...

876
00:36:43,768 --> 00:36:45,269
Yes.

877
00:36:45,302 --> 00:36:46,337
So it doesn't show at
the top of his head?

878
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:48,072
Okay.

879
00:36:51,843 --> 00:36:54,478
-And give Till a moment.
-Yeah.

880
00:36:57,849 --> 00:36:59,350
[Francis]
Not on his lip, Till,

881
00:36:59,383 --> 00:37:00,818
it should be on his bandage.

882
00:37:00,852 --> 00:37:03,487
Is there any kind of
a thing you have

883
00:37:03,521 --> 00:37:06,190
where you could put
behind it that's like a prism

884
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,292
and you hit a light
and it shoots?

885
00:37:08,325 --> 00:37:10,261
Yeah, I was just
talking to Jeff

886
00:37:10,294 --> 00:37:11,796
so he's bringing something.

887
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:13,531
Yeah, you can throw
that in, too.

888
00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:15,733
We throw everything
but the kitchen sink.

889
00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:17,902
I can adjust the size,
the position

890
00:37:17,935 --> 00:37:19,237
and dim it up and down.

891
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:20,704
The challenge is
they're setting up

892
00:37:20,738 --> 00:37:22,206
this special effects
shot which always

893
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,175
takes a long time.

894
00:37:24,208 --> 00:37:25,910
They're two big dialogue
scenes

895
00:37:25,943 --> 00:37:27,711
with three, four actors.

896
00:37:27,745 --> 00:37:31,082
So we're a little nervous
about today to make our day.

897
00:37:31,115 --> 00:37:33,051
It may not work at all.

898
00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:34,852
That's the big challenge.

899
00:37:34,886 --> 00:37:37,321
If we accomplish the shot,
we'll have a happy day.

900
00:37:37,354 --> 00:37:41,826
[Francis] Is the mirror okay
with the wood that we see

901
00:37:41,859 --> 00:37:45,129
or should we come...
What do you think?

902
00:37:45,163 --> 00:37:46,664
[woman] You're doing
the diamond thing?

903
00:37:46,697 --> 00:37:48,299
-[Francis] Yes.
-[woman] Okay.

904
00:37:48,332 --> 00:37:51,335
[Francis] I can't do much
with him because look at him.

905
00:37:51,368 --> 00:37:52,603
I can do the part where you...

906
00:37:52,636 --> 00:37:54,505
[woman] All right.
All right. All right.

907
00:37:54,538 --> 00:37:55,773
Okay. So are we ready?

908
00:37:55,807 --> 00:37:57,474
[woman]
Yeah. Let's do a rehearsal.

909
00:37:57,508 --> 00:37:59,143
[Francis] I'm going to talk
through the numbers.

910
00:37:59,177 --> 00:38:02,213
Ready, everyone? Action.

911
00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:05,516
Two, one, go.

912
00:38:07,651 --> 00:38:08,719
[woman] That was good.

913
00:38:08,752 --> 00:38:09,921
[Francis]
That was pretty good.

914
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:14,491
Personally, I feel like
it would be benefited

915
00:38:14,525 --> 00:38:16,427
from a little visual
effects enhancement.

916
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:18,329
[actress]
I've done it all for you.

917
00:38:18,362 --> 00:38:20,932
[Francis] Okay. Cut. Good.

918
00:38:20,965 --> 00:38:22,333
Thank you so much.

919
00:38:22,366 --> 00:38:23,801
[woman]
Really quickly, Francis?

920
00:38:23,835 --> 00:38:25,603
It was an experiment.

921
00:38:25,636 --> 00:38:27,305
It wasn't 100% what I wanted,

922
00:38:27,338 --> 00:38:29,307
but it was 70% what I wanted.

923
00:38:29,340 --> 00:38:32,143
-I can add the last.
-[man] That's fine.

924
00:38:32,176 --> 00:38:35,446
And we learned how to put that
mirror in there, which helped.

925
00:38:35,479 --> 00:38:37,081
It was well worth it.

926
00:38:37,115 --> 00:38:39,150
[dramatic music playing]

927
00:38:45,923 --> 00:38:47,591
How do I put this?

928
00:38:47,625 --> 00:38:49,360
You seem to thrive on chaos.

929
00:38:49,393 --> 00:38:50,895
-I don't.
-No?

930
00:38:50,928 --> 00:38:52,296
No.

931
00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,366
In the world of illusion
making, special effects,

932
00:38:55,399 --> 00:38:56,834
there's a lot of technology,

933
00:38:56,868 --> 00:38:59,237
whether it be computer
generated material,

934
00:38:59,270 --> 00:39:01,973
or nowadays people
talk a lot about the Volume,

935
00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:04,775
which is a big
LED video screen

936
00:39:04,808 --> 00:39:06,344
that you can put images on.

937
00:39:06,377 --> 00:39:09,213
So I think at the very
beginning of the process,

938
00:39:09,247 --> 00:39:12,049
there was a curiosity about
how this new technology

939
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:14,485
could serve him to make
this big, ambitious movie.

940
00:39:14,518 --> 00:39:17,855
But then I think
some of the team

941
00:39:17,889 --> 00:39:20,324
assumed everything would
be done in that way.

942
00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:43,547
[Francis] I just wonder,
is it really necessary

943
00:39:43,580 --> 00:39:46,650
to have an army
of such trucks?

944
00:39:46,684 --> 00:39:48,352
But maybe it is.

945
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:50,554
-It's industrial filmmaking.
-[Figgis] Yeah.

946
00:39:52,756 --> 00:39:56,027
But even <i>Apocalypse Now</i>
wasn't on this scale.

947
00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:58,429
We're way beyond
<i>Apocalypse Now.</i>

948
00:39:58,462 --> 00:40:00,331
-[Figgis] This is?
-Yeah.

949
00:40:00,364 --> 00:40:03,467
We had helicopters and stuff,
but it wasn't like this.

950
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:04,535
[Figgis] Yeah.

951
00:40:06,370 --> 00:40:08,272
So is this your biggest film?

952
00:40:08,306 --> 00:40:10,007
By far.

953
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,457
[door creaking]

954
00:40:37,969 --> 00:40:39,636
-Question?
-Yeah.

955
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:41,305
We're going to see
how it feels.

956
00:40:41,339 --> 00:40:42,806
Okay, yeah, 'cause it...

957
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,442
Yes, okay.

958
00:40:44,475 --> 00:40:46,277
In other words, his line is...
coming out he says,

959
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:49,713
"I hope you had nothing
to do with that shooting."

960
00:40:49,747 --> 00:40:51,082
"You've been trying to get
that cousin of yours

961
00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:52,750
-since you were six."
-Yeah, okay.

962
00:40:52,783 --> 00:40:55,119
That almost feels
like chapter two.

963
00:40:55,152 --> 00:40:58,289
Like, like... that almost
feels very intimate, all that.

964
00:40:58,322 --> 00:40:59,457
No, he's right
there next to you.

965
00:40:59,490 --> 00:41:00,624
He's in there the whole time?

966
00:41:00,657 --> 00:41:01,925
No, he's right next to you.

967
00:41:01,959 --> 00:41:03,060
-Next to me.
-He's coming out.

968
00:41:03,094 --> 00:41:04,428
And as he passes you, he says,

969
00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:06,163
"I hope you had nothing
to do with the shooting."

970
00:41:06,197 --> 00:41:07,164
"You've been trying
to get your" thing...

971
00:41:07,198 --> 00:41:08,732
very intimate.

972
00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:11,302
And then he walks out and
you're left with the response.

973
00:41:11,335 --> 00:41:14,238
Okay. Okay.

974
00:41:14,272 --> 00:41:15,672
Is there a...

975
00:41:15,706 --> 00:41:16,673
Oh, yes. Okay.

976
00:41:16,707 --> 00:41:17,841
Can I just throw out an idea?

977
00:41:17,875 --> 00:41:19,210
Okay.

978
00:41:19,243 --> 00:41:20,944
Is it possible also that
the reveal happens

979
00:41:20,978 --> 00:41:24,081
and we have our banter and
then maybe I move to the desk?

980
00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:25,449
[Francis] No.

981
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,818
Oh, my God.
I've got to go in now.

982
00:41:27,851 --> 00:41:30,154
This is very hard for me.

983
00:41:30,187 --> 00:41:32,890
I know I'm toward
the end of my career.

984
00:41:32,923 --> 00:41:35,092
This could be the ending.

985
00:41:35,126 --> 00:41:36,427
He's going over here.

986
00:41:36,460 --> 00:41:37,628
Yes, okay.

987
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,230
I need a little bit of...

988
00:41:39,263 --> 00:41:42,400
I still need something
in my cards to get me here

989
00:41:42,433 --> 00:41:44,068
because I actually
want to get here.

990
00:41:44,101 --> 00:41:47,204
Well, he's just accused him of
shooting your thing,

991
00:41:47,238 --> 00:41:49,540
so... you can do it
the way you want.

992
00:41:49,573 --> 00:41:51,142
Okay, fine.
I know what you want.

993
00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:52,576
I know what you want.

994
00:41:52,609 --> 00:41:53,677
It's just that
that's a great...

995
00:41:53,710 --> 00:41:55,012
-I know what you want.
-Shot.

996
00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:55,846
I know what you want.
I know what you want.

997
00:41:55,879 --> 00:41:57,481
Say a prayer.

998
00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:59,116
What if you say
you're going to have

999
00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:00,784
to prove yourself to me, son.

1000
00:42:00,818 --> 00:42:02,653
And then there's a break
in the action

1001
00:42:02,686 --> 00:42:04,188
as opposed to
saying it all at once.

1002
00:42:04,221 --> 00:42:06,857
And I'll sit
and I'll say, I can't.

1003
00:42:06,890 --> 00:42:08,792
Yeah, okay?

1004
00:42:08,826 --> 00:42:10,094
And then you can say the rest
of that on the other side.

1005
00:42:10,127 --> 00:42:12,229
-Yeah, sure.
-Okay.

1006
00:42:14,532 --> 00:42:15,732
Does that mean
I'm off the list?

1007
00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:17,201
What list?

1008
00:42:17,234 --> 00:42:19,203
Your list of heirs.

1009
00:42:19,236 --> 00:42:20,704
[Francis]
So, you, no, would you want

1010
00:42:20,737 --> 00:42:22,739
to do all that without
him behind your desk?

1011
00:42:22,773 --> 00:42:24,741
Just that little piece.

1012
00:42:24,775 --> 00:42:28,011
-Yeah.
-He's got to get over there.

1013
00:42:28,045 --> 00:42:30,281
[Voight] You don't like it?

1014
00:42:30,314 --> 00:42:31,248
I'm trying to...

1015
00:42:31,282 --> 00:42:32,350
[Voight] I'll be at the desk.

1016
00:42:32,383 --> 00:42:34,051
Whatever. Whatever.

1017
00:42:34,085 --> 00:42:36,720
[Voight] Okay, so I'll be at
the desk and let's say...

1018
00:42:36,753 --> 00:42:39,123
I mean, if there's
a reason why I have

1019
00:42:39,156 --> 00:42:40,691
to have a shot over here

1020
00:42:40,724 --> 00:42:42,460
when I'm planning
to have a shot over there

1021
00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:43,660
because then I have
the shot over there,

1022
00:42:43,694 --> 00:42:45,162
then the scene's over.

1023
00:42:45,196 --> 00:42:47,030
My action's no different
no matter what he does.

1024
00:42:47,064 --> 00:42:49,666
[Francis] Yeah, so what are we
inventing a whole step for?

1025
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:50,934
Where did that come from?

1026
00:42:50,968 --> 00:42:53,237
Who is the director
who came in here

1027
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:55,072
and started to
stage this scene?

1028
00:42:55,106 --> 00:42:56,507
[Shia]
You're obviously the director.

1029
00:42:56,540 --> 00:42:58,142
Yeah, but I'm not
having a chance to.

1030
00:42:58,175 --> 00:42:59,477
Let's try it behind the desk.

1031
00:42:59,510 --> 00:43:00,744
Yeah, the whole thing
behind the desk.

1032
00:43:00,777 --> 00:43:02,446
We're just sketching now.

1033
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,881
Just show you something so
you can say no to that thing

1034
00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:04,982
that we showed you.

1035
00:43:05,015 --> 00:43:06,717
Okay, I'm happy to do that.

1036
00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:09,553
I only hope you had nothing
to do with that shit.

1037
00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:10,821
<i>Of course not. How...</i>

1038
00:43:12,856 --> 00:43:15,226
<i>How could you say that?</i>

1039
00:43:16,994 --> 00:43:18,862
<i>So what happens now?</i>

1040
00:43:18,896 --> 00:43:20,030
<i>Am I off the list?</i>

1041
00:43:20,998 --> 00:43:22,833
<i>What list?</i>

1042
00:43:22,866 --> 00:43:23,901
<i>Your list of heirs.</i>

1043
00:43:25,636 --> 00:43:28,005
<i>You're going to have to</i>
<i>prove yourself to me, son.</i>

1044
00:43:28,038 --> 00:43:30,441
[Francis] Now I'm having...
Now I'm having fun.

1045
00:43:30,474 --> 00:43:31,708
[woman] Good.

1046
00:43:34,845 --> 00:43:36,247
It's Francis, you know.

1047
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,781
It's cinema.

1048
00:43:37,814 --> 00:43:39,583
It's not...

1049
00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:44,388
It's not necessarily, um...

1050
00:43:44,422 --> 00:43:47,024
the easiest environment
for a performer like me.

1051
00:43:47,057 --> 00:43:48,359
Maybe it is for other people,

1052
00:43:48,392 --> 00:43:50,227
but for me
it's very difficult.

1053
00:43:50,261 --> 00:43:52,062
[Figgis]
Tell me more in what way.

1054
00:43:52,095 --> 00:43:53,830
Well, I like when you get
to play a whole song.

1055
00:43:53,864 --> 00:43:56,167
I don't like playing
one note at a time,

1056
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,702
and he's got images
in his head

1057
00:43:58,735 --> 00:44:00,571
that he's dead set on,

1058
00:44:00,604 --> 00:44:02,906
and sometimes there's
not enough dance floor.

1059
00:44:02,940 --> 00:44:04,341
When there's marks
on the ground,

1060
00:44:04,375 --> 00:44:06,143
it's inhibiting.

1061
00:44:06,177 --> 00:44:08,612
Once you get what you want,
can I be a little bit looser?

1062
00:44:08,646 --> 00:44:10,448
It's so fucking rigid.

1063
00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:12,516
[Francis] You can be
very loose now, if you want.

1064
00:44:12,550 --> 00:44:14,151
[Shia] For anybody else,
I probably would fight it.

1065
00:44:14,185 --> 00:44:16,153
You've got to let me
have some of these takes

1066
00:44:16,187 --> 00:44:17,588
are just straight trash.

1067
00:44:17,621 --> 00:44:19,390
You know, it takes a minute
to work up.

1068
00:44:19,423 --> 00:44:20,891
But I know where I am, and I
know it's the Super Bowl.

1069
00:44:20,924 --> 00:44:21,925
Did you see it?

1070
00:44:21,959 --> 00:44:23,093
[Shia] No, I haven't seen it.

1071
00:44:23,126 --> 00:44:24,395
You don't know it's the trash.

1072
00:44:24,428 --> 00:44:25,963
[Shia] All the characters
in this...

1073
00:44:25,996 --> 00:44:27,064
[Francis] That's it.
That's the scene.

1074
00:44:27,097 --> 00:44:29,066
Good. Let's try to shoot one.

1075
00:44:29,099 --> 00:44:30,668
My guy has to
stay off the tracks.

1076
00:44:30,701 --> 00:44:32,002
-[Figgis] You're bouncing.
-Yeah.

1077
00:44:32,035 --> 00:44:34,338
Which is interesting,
because I have

1078
00:44:34,371 --> 00:44:36,873
the least job security

1079
00:44:36,907 --> 00:44:39,477
of all the fucking
actors on the show.

1080
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:41,745
So having
the least job security

1081
00:44:41,778 --> 00:44:44,081
and the one job where
you got a rebel a bit,

1082
00:44:44,114 --> 00:44:46,717
it's turned him
into real Crassus

1083
00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:48,219
and me into real Clodio.

1084
00:44:48,252 --> 00:44:51,021
[Francis] Do you know why
I'm doing this movie?

1085
00:44:51,054 --> 00:44:52,623
-[Shia] Because you love it.
-No.

1086
00:44:52,656 --> 00:44:55,626
What do I get out of it?
What am I looking for?

1087
00:44:55,659 --> 00:44:57,160
[Shia]
This is what you do, man.

1088
00:44:57,194 --> 00:44:58,629
No, I can do...

1089
00:44:58,662 --> 00:44:59,896
I have wine. I have hotels.

1090
00:44:59,930 --> 00:45:01,298
[Shia] Who gives a fuck
about all that, though?

1091
00:45:01,332 --> 00:45:03,033
This is what you...
this is your thing.

1092
00:45:03,066 --> 00:45:04,568
What am I paid in?

1093
00:45:04,602 --> 00:45:06,903
What currency am I paid in?

1094
00:45:06,937 --> 00:45:09,306
-[Shia] Love.
-No.

1095
00:45:09,340 --> 00:45:11,509
There's only one thing I get.

1096
00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:13,010
I don't get money.
I don't get fame.

1097
00:45:13,043 --> 00:45:14,612
I already have fame.

1098
00:45:14,645 --> 00:45:16,714
I don't get Oscars.
I already have Oscars.

1099
00:45:16,747 --> 00:45:18,282
-What do I get that I want?
-[Shia] Tell me.

1100
00:45:18,315 --> 00:45:19,983
Fun. I want to have fun.

1101
00:45:20,017 --> 00:45:21,885
I'm feeling everything
I'm supposed to be feeling.

1102
00:45:21,918 --> 00:45:23,487
Good.

1103
00:45:23,521 --> 00:45:25,088
I'm not really worried
about shit really.

1104
00:45:25,122 --> 00:45:26,323
I'm worried about getting
fired all the time.

1105
00:45:26,357 --> 00:45:27,625
I'm serious.

1106
00:45:27,658 --> 00:45:28,825
Every day I think
I'm out of here.

1107
00:45:28,859 --> 00:45:30,427
[man] Why?

1108
00:45:30,461 --> 00:45:33,264
Because Keitel got fired
and he got fired a month in.

1109
00:45:33,297 --> 00:45:35,165
We're a week in
and I'm thinking, oh fuck,

1110
00:45:35,198 --> 00:45:36,600
I just got to get to a month.

1111
00:45:36,634 --> 00:45:38,302
I just got to
get to a month, man.

1112
00:45:38,335 --> 00:45:41,938
A month on <i>Apocalypse Now</i>
is like 5% of that schedule.

1113
00:45:41,972 --> 00:45:44,475
-[Shia] That's true.
-They shot for 240 days.

1114
00:45:44,508 --> 00:45:46,243
[Shia] Yeah, crazy.

1115
00:45:46,277 --> 00:45:47,878
You're good. I think
you're past the danger zone.

1116
00:45:47,911 --> 00:45:50,714
Yeah, I guess when you
fraction it out that way.

1117
00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:52,583
-Did you guys have tension?
-Tension?

1118
00:45:52,616 --> 00:45:54,117
[Shia] Did you guys have
a wrestling match?

1119
00:45:54,151 --> 00:45:55,286
No.

1120
00:45:55,319 --> 00:45:56,420
[Shia]
No. Okay, then I heard wrong.

1121
00:45:56,453 --> 00:45:58,289
[Voight] Well, it was...

1122
00:45:58,322 --> 00:46:00,791
I had written
a few other lines.

1123
00:46:00,824 --> 00:46:02,293
[Shia] Which he loves.

1124
00:46:02,326 --> 00:46:04,227
-Which he really...
-[Shia] Which he loves.

1125
00:46:04,261 --> 00:46:07,631
And so I wanted
to express myself

1126
00:46:07,665 --> 00:46:10,334
to what I felt
this and everything.

1127
00:46:10,367 --> 00:46:13,970
And he was locked
into everything.

1128
00:46:14,004 --> 00:46:15,639
What it finally...

1129
00:46:15,673 --> 00:46:17,775
We had to fight a little bit.
You know what I mean?

1130
00:46:17,808 --> 00:46:19,976
He had tension
and I had tension.

1131
00:46:20,010 --> 00:46:23,314
And at one point he said,

1132
00:46:23,347 --> 00:46:25,182
all right, well you
do what you want to do.

1133
00:46:25,215 --> 00:46:28,051
I'm going to go over here.
And he left the room.

1134
00:46:28,085 --> 00:46:30,454
So I said, all right,
I'll do it his way.

1135
00:46:30,487 --> 00:46:32,289
So when he left,
I did it his way.

1136
00:46:32,323 --> 00:46:34,291
He saw it. He was just
sitting there watching.

1137
00:46:34,325 --> 00:46:35,559
And he came back in.

1138
00:46:35,593 --> 00:46:38,495
And then
he made an adjustment.

1139
00:46:38,529 --> 00:46:40,230
And I made an adjustment.

1140
00:46:40,263 --> 00:46:42,733
I just dropped quite a lot
of what I was thinking.

1141
00:46:42,766 --> 00:46:45,336
But he took a couple
of things that I had put in.

1142
00:46:45,369 --> 00:46:48,171
And we worked it out
and the scene took place.

1143
00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:50,107
It actually was pretty good.

1144
00:46:52,209 --> 00:46:56,547
[woman] Let's cut, technical
issue with camera. Stand by.

1145
00:46:56,580 --> 00:46:59,450
I tell you, Mike, I'm too old

1146
00:46:59,483 --> 00:47:01,485
and grouchy for
this kind of work.

1147
00:47:03,787 --> 00:47:06,323
Now let me do
a documentary on your film.

1148
00:47:07,290 --> 00:47:08,925
This is ridiculous.

1149
00:47:08,959 --> 00:47:11,895
[Figgis laughing]

1150
00:47:11,928 --> 00:47:14,030
What I'm discovering is that

1151
00:47:14,064 --> 00:47:18,201
when you make a documentary
about filmmaking...

1152
00:47:18,235 --> 00:47:21,705
what you're looking for
are tensions

1153
00:47:21,739 --> 00:47:26,143
and, um, possible things
that can go wrong.

1154
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,948
[woman] Hand me that.
Thank you.

1155
00:47:34,918 --> 00:47:36,453
Um, can you...

1156
00:47:39,156 --> 00:47:40,891
[Francis] Ready, action.

1157
00:47:40,924 --> 00:47:43,594
It can all be yours...
darling.

1158
00:47:45,962 --> 00:47:47,398
Everything.

1159
00:47:49,633 --> 00:47:52,202
These mean nothing...

1160
00:47:52,235 --> 00:47:53,570
Nothing to me.

1161
00:47:53,604 --> 00:47:57,474
We had a necklace that was
set to open easily.

1162
00:47:57,508 --> 00:48:00,377
And unfortunately,
something happened

1163
00:48:00,411 --> 00:48:02,413
and the clasp got closed.

1164
00:48:02,446 --> 00:48:07,017
And so, she pulled
the necklace and it broke.

1165
00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:09,720
And it came unstrung.

1166
00:48:09,753 --> 00:48:13,290
So there's a lot of quick work
that needs to happen.

1167
00:48:17,027 --> 00:48:19,697
-[Francis] Oh, the necklace.
-[woman] Yep.

1168
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:21,732
They're doing
reconstructive surgery.

1169
00:48:21,765 --> 00:48:23,333
[Francis] I take it
there's one necklace.

1170
00:48:23,366 --> 00:48:24,768
[woman]
There's only one necklace.

1171
00:48:24,802 --> 00:48:26,437
Helena only gave us one.

1172
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:29,306
We're moments away.
She's working furiously.

1173
00:48:29,339 --> 00:48:31,442
-Thank you, Lily,
-[Lily] Yes.

1174
00:48:31,475 --> 00:48:32,810
[woman] She's nearly there.

1175
00:48:32,843 --> 00:48:34,578
[Francis]
Can I shoot or I can't shoot?

1176
00:48:34,611 --> 00:48:38,215
[woman] Less than two minutes,
you'll be able to shoot.

1177
00:48:38,248 --> 00:48:41,518
This is a prop.
This is not a costume.

1178
00:48:41,552 --> 00:48:43,220
It's a breakaway prop.

1179
00:48:43,253 --> 00:48:44,421
[woman] Yes, she closed it.

1180
00:48:44,455 --> 00:48:46,757
But it was rigged
not to be closed.

1181
00:48:47,290 --> 00:48:49,827
How am I going to do five
takes one after another?

1182
00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:53,931
It's got a magnet on it.
So it'll work.

1183
00:48:57,334 --> 00:49:02,172
[Figgis] What is the secret
to keeping peace on the set?

1184
00:49:02,205 --> 00:49:04,374
What's the secret?

1185
00:49:04,407 --> 00:49:06,276
I don't know if there's
necessarily a secret.

1186
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:07,978
I just think it's
a peace of mind

1187
00:49:08,011 --> 00:49:10,948
where everyone just
needs to take a deep breath

1188
00:49:10,981 --> 00:49:12,816
and realize that
we're creating a movie

1189
00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:14,384
and that we're not
curing cancer

1190
00:49:14,417 --> 00:49:17,755
and that no matter what,
we'll fix it.

1191
00:49:17,788 --> 00:49:20,591
We get wrapped up in our jobs
and our position

1192
00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:23,627
and to make everything
fit and force it to fit.

1193
00:49:23,660 --> 00:49:26,396
And then sometimes
you just have to let go.

1194
00:49:26,429 --> 00:49:27,631
I've worked with
a lot of directors

1195
00:49:27,664 --> 00:49:29,199
who are like Francis,
believe it or not.

1196
00:49:29,232 --> 00:49:30,567
[laughing]

1197
00:49:30,601 --> 00:49:31,568
[Figgis]
Tell me more, tell me more.

1198
00:49:31,602 --> 00:49:33,303
[Mariela]
Well, just, you know,

1199
00:49:33,336 --> 00:49:35,472
that don't really like to prep

1200
00:49:35,506 --> 00:49:36,807
and like things to be organic

1201
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,208
and feel it and find it

1202
00:49:38,241 --> 00:49:40,110
and not worry about
what's to come

1203
00:49:40,143 --> 00:49:42,012
and just focusing
on what's today.

1204
00:49:42,045 --> 00:49:44,715
Yeah, just try and anticipate
what he wants

1205
00:49:44,748 --> 00:49:46,216
and you can't.

1206
00:49:46,249 --> 00:49:48,184
-Nobody really can.
-[Figgis] Yeah.

1207
00:49:48,218 --> 00:49:49,953
[Mariela] He gets in the
moment and he gets upset,

1208
00:49:49,987 --> 00:49:51,855
rightfully so.

1209
00:49:51,889 --> 00:49:54,090
And then he, you know,
like you said

1210
00:49:54,124 --> 00:49:56,393
he recognizes it
and does apologize.

1211
00:49:56,426 --> 00:49:57,661
But that doesn't affect me.

1212
00:49:57,694 --> 00:49:59,296
He can yell and storm off

1213
00:49:59,963 --> 00:50:01,298
and do everything
that he needs to do

1214
00:50:01,331 --> 00:50:03,433
to get the frustration out.
It's okay.

1215
00:50:03,466 --> 00:50:04,735
[Figgis]
'Cause it's only a movie.

1216
00:50:04,768 --> 00:50:06,102
'Cause it's only a movie.

1217
00:50:06,136 --> 00:50:07,838
[Francis]
What I was seeing was fine.

1218
00:50:07,871 --> 00:50:09,339
Let's go back to
what I was seeing.

1219
00:50:09,372 --> 00:50:10,908
Let's not reinvent...

1220
00:50:10,941 --> 00:50:13,343
Francis, can we try
with a longer lens?

1221
00:50:13,376 --> 00:50:15,879
'Cause I think we might have
a better chance of seeing

1222
00:50:15,913 --> 00:50:18,649
the reflections and all that.

1223
00:50:18,682 --> 00:50:21,217
[Francis] Can we just do one
last one immediately?

1224
00:50:21,251 --> 00:50:24,321
-We can. Okay.
-[Francis] Let's try to do it.

1225
00:50:24,354 --> 00:50:27,057
Do it again the same way.

1226
00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:29,827
I don't know where I am.

1227
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,428
[Francis]
This is looking good.

1228
00:50:31,461 --> 00:50:34,164
Is there any way to
reflect Jon's moving?

1229
00:50:34,197 --> 00:50:37,000
Well, no, we want
to audition how to get

1230
00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,369
Wow and Felix
in the mirror for you.

1231
00:50:39,770 --> 00:50:42,405
Please, just calm down.

1232
00:50:42,439 --> 00:50:43,707
[Francis] Ready? And action!

1233
00:50:45,075 --> 00:50:47,778
<i>This is hostile.</i>

1234
00:50:47,811 --> 00:50:49,279
<i>This is treacherous!</i>

1235
00:50:49,312 --> 00:50:50,747
<i>-I didn't mean it...</i>
<i>-Villainous!</i>

1236
00:50:50,781 --> 00:50:52,115
<i>I didn't mean</i>
<i>it to be hostile.</i>

1237
00:50:52,148 --> 00:50:54,250
<i>Whose name is this?</i>

1238
00:50:54,284 --> 00:50:55,686
<i>I thought it was inevitable.</i>

1239
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,821
<i>-Who signed this?</i>
<i>-I did what you asked!</i>

1240
00:50:57,855 --> 00:50:59,857
<i>No!</i>

1241
00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:01,024
Get off me!

1242
00:51:01,058 --> 00:51:02,960
-[Francis] Wow.
-Breathe.

1243
00:51:05,362 --> 00:51:06,463
What's happening?

1244
00:51:06,496 --> 00:51:08,131
-You!
-Call an ambulance!

1245
00:51:08,164 --> 00:51:09,299
-No!
-Now!

1246
00:51:09,332 --> 00:51:11,134
[Francis]
Go back and do that all again

1247
00:51:11,167 --> 00:51:13,536
on Wow's entrance,
let's try again.

1248
00:51:13,570 --> 00:51:18,141
Get away from me!
Get away from me!

1249
00:51:18,174 --> 00:51:20,543
[Figgis]
Is Francis all sweetness?

1250
00:51:20,577 --> 00:51:23,146
No, Francis is
not all sweetness.

1251
00:51:23,179 --> 00:51:26,083
No great artist is, I think.

1252
00:51:26,116 --> 00:51:28,852
He's very demanding.

1253
00:51:28,886 --> 00:51:31,121
He demands a lot of himself.

1254
00:51:31,154 --> 00:51:35,425
And Francis's intentions
in the film

1255
00:51:35,458 --> 00:51:40,163
are really quite monumental.

1256
00:51:40,196 --> 00:51:42,065
I don't know, you know...

1257
00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:44,001
[Figgis] Did you fully
understand the script

1258
00:51:44,034 --> 00:51:45,368
the first time you read it?

1259
00:51:45,402 --> 00:51:47,738
Well, it's not something
you understand.

1260
00:51:47,771 --> 00:51:51,808
It's something that you
see as a possibility.

1261
00:51:51,842 --> 00:51:54,344
That's what he's doing.
He said it.

1262
00:51:54,377 --> 00:51:58,115
He said the script
is just the bones

1263
00:51:58,148 --> 00:52:01,151
and we're going to have to
find out what it is, you know?

1264
00:52:01,184 --> 00:52:03,319
And that's the way he works.

1265
00:52:03,353 --> 00:52:05,422
The great thing
about it is we're all

1266
00:52:05,455 --> 00:52:07,624
as involved as he is.

1267
00:52:07,658 --> 00:52:10,627
And Eleanor says this,
Francis's wife.

1268
00:52:10,661 --> 00:52:14,064
You know, she says, Francis,
the beginning of a film

1269
00:52:14,097 --> 00:52:18,068
is Francis asking a question

1270
00:52:18,101 --> 00:52:21,337
and the making of the film
is finding the answer.

1271
00:52:21,371 --> 00:52:24,908
[Francis] There's no movie
I've ever worked on

1272
00:52:24,942 --> 00:52:27,477
where I wasn't scared.

1273
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:28,578
[siren sounds]

1274
00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:33,016
The scene is really
between Hart and Julia

1275
00:52:33,050 --> 00:52:36,186
and Fundi by the fence.
That's the talk part.

1276
00:52:36,219 --> 00:52:39,089
The context is the sight
of these cops

1277
00:52:39,122 --> 00:52:41,725
bringing a strong man
from there to here.

1278
00:52:41,758 --> 00:52:43,326
So that's the scene.

1279
00:52:43,359 --> 00:52:45,963
[man] Do you mind having
the other police car there?

1280
00:52:45,996 --> 00:52:47,931
[Francis]
Totally. I don't understand.

1281
00:52:47,965 --> 00:52:50,767
[man] Because in reality
they shine those big lights.

1282
00:52:50,801 --> 00:52:51,935
[Francis]
Would you want to have

1283
00:52:51,969 --> 00:52:53,804
another car
over there for lighting?

1284
00:52:53,837 --> 00:52:57,240
For lighting, but also
my fear is that

1285
00:52:57,273 --> 00:52:58,842
the handheld flashlights,

1286
00:52:58,875 --> 00:53:00,543
they will have to
fight with him.

1287
00:53:00,577 --> 00:53:01,544
They won't have time to shine.

1288
00:53:01,578 --> 00:53:03,279
No, no, no, no, no.

1289
00:53:03,313 --> 00:53:05,082
The flashlights, he's not
going to fight with them.

1290
00:53:05,115 --> 00:53:06,717
You don't see how many cars.

1291
00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:08,051
[Mihai]
No, but you feel the light.

1292
00:53:08,085 --> 00:53:10,954
You honestly think
inside the car...

1293
00:53:10,988 --> 00:53:12,489
I think one of my jobs
is to match stuff

1294
00:53:12,522 --> 00:53:14,157
from one shot to another.

1295
00:53:14,191 --> 00:53:15,959
If you don't want that,
I don't have to do it,

1296
00:53:15,993 --> 00:53:18,495
but I think my duty is
to tell you what we did.

1297
00:53:18,528 --> 00:53:21,832
Mihai, we made
three movies together.

1298
00:53:21,865 --> 00:53:25,736
There's never been an issue of
your job is to get one shot.

1299
00:53:25,769 --> 00:53:28,972
You don't know how
it's going to be cut.

1300
00:53:29,006 --> 00:53:30,240
That's true.

1301
00:53:30,273 --> 00:53:31,742
The way it's cut
determines it.

1302
00:53:31,775 --> 00:53:33,443
But part of my job I think
it is to make sure

1303
00:53:33,476 --> 00:53:35,578
that lighting wise from
one shot to another,

1304
00:53:35,612 --> 00:53:37,114
it's as similar as possible.

1305
00:53:37,147 --> 00:53:39,349
[Francis] To me, your job is
not to match all the light,

1306
00:53:39,382 --> 00:53:41,551
your job is to get
beautiful images

1307
00:53:41,584 --> 00:53:43,586
of the scenes that we have,
which you do.

1308
00:53:43,620 --> 00:53:45,355
My opinion on this movie

1309
00:53:45,388 --> 00:53:46,689
is we always have
too many people,

1310
00:53:46,723 --> 00:53:48,792
too much stuff,
too many equipment,

1311
00:53:48,825 --> 00:53:49,960
too many everything.

1312
00:53:49,993 --> 00:53:51,194
Everything becomes hard.

1313
00:53:51,228 --> 00:53:52,395
This is simple.

1314
00:53:52,428 --> 00:53:53,797
[Mihai] Okay.

1315
00:53:53,830 --> 00:53:55,198
[Francis] I don't want to
frustrate you.

1316
00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,300
[Mihai] No, no, no, no.

1317
00:53:57,333 --> 00:53:59,602
[Francis] Cinema is
the only art that kills

1318
00:53:59,636 --> 00:54:01,772
what it's trying to preserve.

1319
00:54:01,805 --> 00:54:04,775
[Figgis]
How would you define kill?

1320
00:54:04,808 --> 00:54:06,309
[Francis] Anesthetize it.

1321
00:54:06,342 --> 00:54:09,146
It's injected with drugs
that make it freeze

1322
00:54:09,179 --> 00:54:12,983
and be inanimate
and be controllable.

1323
00:54:13,016 --> 00:54:15,685
It's because they
don't understand

1324
00:54:15,718 --> 00:54:17,687
that it's not necessary.

1325
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:20,123
The low budget people,
Irvin Kirschner

1326
00:54:20,157 --> 00:54:22,926
and those...
and John Cassavetes

1327
00:54:22,959 --> 00:54:24,694
and all those people
taught us that

1328
00:54:24,727 --> 00:54:27,164
if you capture what's alive,

1329
00:54:27,197 --> 00:54:28,832
that's more beautiful

1330
00:54:28,865 --> 00:54:31,234
than if you
capture what's dead.

1331
00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:33,336
[Figgis] You watched him
through the whole

1332
00:54:33,369 --> 00:54:35,672
<i>One From the Heart</i>
period and that

1333
00:54:35,705 --> 00:54:37,540
must have been
very tough to watch.

1334
00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:39,176
Well...

1335
00:54:39,209 --> 00:54:40,443
[Figgis] Did you say,
yeah, I saw it coming?

1336
00:54:40,476 --> 00:54:43,513
Yeah, I said...
No, I saw it coming.

1337
00:54:43,546 --> 00:54:46,817
He sort of went up
against a few brick walls

1338
00:54:46,850 --> 00:54:48,651
and I managed to push through,

1339
00:54:48,685 --> 00:54:53,123
although to me my fate
wasn't dependent

1340
00:54:53,156 --> 00:54:54,757
on making it through
the brick wall.

1341
00:54:54,791 --> 00:54:56,459
[Figgis] So is getting
through the brick wall

1342
00:54:56,492 --> 00:54:59,096
part of his thing?

1343
00:54:59,129 --> 00:55:00,864
-Well, it's...
-Does he like brick walls?

1344
00:55:00,897 --> 00:55:02,199
Yeah.

1345
00:55:02,232 --> 00:55:05,836
So when he lands on his
head, I'm not surprised.

1346
00:55:05,869 --> 00:55:07,904
[jazzy music playing]

1347
00:55:35,932 --> 00:55:38,301
[man] Three, two, one!

1348
00:55:39,602 --> 00:55:41,638
[dramatic music playing]

1349
00:55:46,542 --> 00:55:47,810
[woman] Go get 'em!

1350
00:55:50,213 --> 00:55:52,015
Hello, all.
How are you guys doing?

1351
00:55:52,048 --> 00:55:53,549
[women] Hello.

1352
00:55:53,583 --> 00:55:56,486
What I would like is to get
a little more artsy fartsy

1353
00:55:56,519 --> 00:55:58,588
with the cyclone fence
and have it twisted

1354
00:55:58,621 --> 00:56:01,191
as though
a really cheap labor...

1355
00:56:01,224 --> 00:56:04,194
-[man on PA indistinct]
-[crowd cheering]

1356
00:56:11,601 --> 00:56:13,469
[honking]

1357
00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:16,973
[girls screaming]

1358
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:21,144
[indistinct chatter]

1359
00:56:29,085 --> 00:56:31,288
Okay, Huey?

1360
00:56:31,321 --> 00:56:33,356
You're looking for someone,
some girl

1361
00:56:33,390 --> 00:56:34,624
-that you can sell that to.
-Okay.

1362
00:56:34,657 --> 00:56:36,193
[Francis] Go ahead.

1363
00:56:36,226 --> 00:56:38,461
Working quietly, please.

1364
00:56:38,494 --> 00:56:40,697
[Francis] I'm worrying about
costume matching problems

1365
00:56:40,730 --> 00:56:42,165
I shouldn't worry about.

1366
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:44,367
Doesn't it work
even if they don't know?

1367
00:56:46,336 --> 00:56:47,670
Why is that so important?

1368
00:56:47,704 --> 00:56:49,272
This is some shit
from your childhood.

1369
00:56:49,306 --> 00:56:50,673
It doesn't really matter.

1370
00:56:50,707 --> 00:56:52,075
You're full of shit.

1371
00:56:52,108 --> 00:56:53,743
Let me explain.
Let me explain something.

1372
00:56:53,776 --> 00:56:56,646
You see a guy
in a military band?

1373
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:57,914
Yeah.

1374
00:56:57,948 --> 00:56:59,149
You see a guy
in a military band.

1375
00:56:59,182 --> 00:57:00,250
Yeah.

1376
00:57:00,283 --> 00:57:01,418
he goes AWOL and just quits

1377
00:57:01,451 --> 00:57:03,453
and he walks off
in his uniform

1378
00:57:03,486 --> 00:57:05,655
The next time he shows up,

1379
00:57:05,688 --> 00:57:07,657
you have no idea who he is.

1380
00:57:07,690 --> 00:57:10,060
I'm gonna have a shot
where he at least

1381
00:57:10,093 --> 00:57:12,329
has the jacket
that we saw him in.

1382
00:57:12,362 --> 00:57:13,997
You fixate...

1383
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:16,967
I'm not gonna talk to you.
You're wrong.

1384
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,501
I've done this for 50 years.

1385
00:57:18,534 --> 00:57:20,237
I know what happens
in the editing room

1386
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:21,871
when they don't know
who the hell he is.

1387
00:57:21,904 --> 00:57:25,008
-Hey.
-Hey, I was thinking of you.

1388
00:57:25,041 --> 00:57:26,876
How are you doing?

1389
00:57:26,909 --> 00:57:28,445
Ah!

1390
00:57:28,478 --> 00:57:33,984
Film is one of the hardest
media to improvise in.

1391
00:57:34,017 --> 00:57:35,585
I mean, it's so expensive.

1392
00:57:35,618 --> 00:57:37,420
I'm not used to
this costume thing,

1393
00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:38,621
where every time
I say costume,

1394
00:57:38,654 --> 00:57:40,523
-three hours goes by.
-[woman] Yep.

1395
00:57:40,556 --> 00:57:42,558
I don't want it anymore.

1396
00:57:42,592 --> 00:57:44,461
I need help.

1397
00:57:44,494 --> 00:57:46,896
I know exactly
what I'm trying to do.

1398
00:57:46,929 --> 00:57:49,099
And somehow,
everything I try to do,

1399
00:57:49,132 --> 00:57:51,667
it takes, oh, it's got
to come up from there,

1400
00:57:51,701 --> 00:57:54,404
or they got to do the thing.

1401
00:57:54,437 --> 00:57:56,273
I feel like I'm working
in fast speed,

1402
00:57:56,306 --> 00:57:58,441
and everyone's working
in slow motion.

1403
00:57:58,475 --> 00:58:01,144
I mean, all I need is
my regular kind of crew

1404
00:58:01,177 --> 00:58:03,380
that's not so immense.

1405
00:58:03,413 --> 00:58:07,817
Every decision has to go up
and down the art department.

1406
00:58:07,850 --> 00:58:10,720
The danger is,
I'm going to get really mad.

1407
00:58:10,753 --> 00:58:13,189
I know what I'm talking about.
Give me what I want!

1408
00:58:13,223 --> 00:58:14,324
I don't know what you want.

1409
00:58:14,357 --> 00:58:17,927
[indistinct chatter]

1410
00:58:19,662 --> 00:58:21,764
If you're like looking at
all that way, you know,

1411
00:58:21,798 --> 00:58:23,566
it feels like we would
do blue screen

1412
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:25,101
on that side of the screen.

1413
00:58:25,135 --> 00:58:27,937
Well, the blue screen also
could be next to...

1414
00:58:27,970 --> 00:58:29,605
because that could be a...

1415
00:58:29,639 --> 00:58:31,241
In other words,
I want Times Square,

1416
00:58:31,274 --> 00:58:34,411
the magic Disney now
Times Square,

1417
00:58:34,444 --> 00:58:36,612
all that stuff to be there.
Where he's pointing.

1418
00:58:36,646 --> 00:58:38,714
The purpose of that screen
is so that we can isolate them

1419
00:58:38,748 --> 00:58:40,850
without having
a foreground piece.

1420
00:58:40,883 --> 00:58:42,319
So if you don't want it,
if you like the aesthetic

1421
00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:44,321
of them over Megalopolis.

1422
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:47,857
[Francis] So how do the heads
all get put into...

1423
00:58:47,890 --> 00:58:49,659
it's just the green screen?

1424
00:58:49,692 --> 00:58:51,127
[Mark]
The green screen allows us

1425
00:58:51,161 --> 00:58:52,495
to put the heads
on top of it.

1426
00:58:52,529 --> 00:58:55,665
What I'm suggesting
is I don't mind

1427
00:58:55,698 --> 00:58:58,768
if you construct something
that imposes in there,

1428
00:58:58,801 --> 00:59:00,303
but if I don't have a problem,

1429
00:59:00,337 --> 00:59:02,405
then that all
above their heads

1430
00:59:02,439 --> 00:59:03,440
and stuff could
be green screen.

1431
00:59:03,473 --> 00:59:04,607
And that could be a real...

1432
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,810
That could be a real... thing.

1433
00:59:07,844 --> 00:59:12,582
I'm anxious to get to
anything in your mind

1434
00:59:12,615 --> 00:59:15,418
is not a done deal,
because here we are.

1435
00:59:15,452 --> 00:59:17,720
We're a few days
before Thanksgiving,

1436
00:59:17,753 --> 00:59:19,856
and I feel that...
and I've set for myself

1437
00:59:19,889 --> 00:59:23,259
really as a financier

1438
00:59:23,293 --> 00:59:26,563
to tell you in advance
what the done deals are

1439
00:59:26,596 --> 00:59:30,600
so that you know and you can
continue and have them ready.

1440
00:59:30,633 --> 00:59:32,835
So what...?

1441
00:59:32,869 --> 00:59:34,604
[Mark] It's going to be
very difficult

1442
00:59:34,637 --> 00:59:36,272
to do good visual effects
if we don't have something

1443
00:59:36,306 --> 00:59:37,474
that we can
separate them from,

1444
00:59:37,507 --> 00:59:38,908
because if you don't
put anything there,

1445
00:59:38,941 --> 00:59:40,310
you're looking at the...

1446
00:59:40,343 --> 00:59:41,444
[Francis]
Let me understand specifically

1447
00:59:41,478 --> 00:59:42,612
what we're talking about,

1448
00:59:42,645 --> 00:59:43,913
because I'm going
to say yes or no.

1449
00:59:43,946 --> 00:59:45,348
Right now, I'm going
to say yes or no.

1450
00:59:45,382 --> 00:59:47,117
Not the whole thing,
just enough so that when

1451
00:59:47,150 --> 00:59:48,118
people are standing
in front of it.

1452
00:59:48,151 --> 00:59:49,586
All we want is the door.

1453
00:59:49,619 --> 00:59:51,421
That's really all
I want is the door.

1454
00:59:51,454 --> 00:59:53,456
Don't give me
what I don't want.

1455
00:59:53,490 --> 00:59:55,225
Oh, light there. It's more...

1456
00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:56,792
I interpreted it
as being romantic.

1457
00:59:56,826 --> 00:59:58,094
Don't try to anticipate
what I'm going to do.

1458
00:59:58,128 --> 01:00:00,430
You'll only get me
in more trouble.

1459
01:00:00,463 --> 01:00:01,598
Really, don't.

1460
01:00:01,631 --> 01:00:03,400
Let me do it.

1461
01:00:03,433 --> 01:00:05,101
I don't want that look.

1462
01:00:05,135 --> 01:00:06,903
I don't want what
they can give me.

1463
01:00:06,936 --> 01:00:09,805
This gets back into
why I like live effects,

1464
01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:12,509
because although,
in your opinion,

1465
01:00:12,542 --> 01:00:14,477
they're not as extraordinary

1466
01:00:14,511 --> 01:00:16,613
and wonderful as
the other kinds,

1467
01:00:16,646 --> 01:00:18,181
I don't agree with you.

1468
01:00:18,214 --> 01:00:19,616
That's just my philosophy.

1469
01:00:19,649 --> 01:00:21,317
It might be wrong,
but it's what

1470
01:00:21,351 --> 01:00:23,686
I'm banking on, literally.

1471
01:00:38,468 --> 01:00:40,570
[Figgis] The big story in
<i>The Hollywood Reporter</i>

1472
01:00:40,603 --> 01:00:44,607
was then picked up by
all the international press

1473
01:00:44,641 --> 01:00:48,511
and stories of disasters
on the set,

1474
01:00:48,545 --> 01:00:50,046
et cetera, et cetera.

1475
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:53,650
Adam Driver made a statement
saying he'd been

1476
01:00:53,683 --> 01:00:56,719
on some pretty crazy sets,
but this was not one of them.

1477
01:00:56,752 --> 01:00:58,955
[Francis] They pass you,
they come here, they stop.

1478
01:00:58,988 --> 01:01:01,324
[Figgis] Already this has
become a myth,

1479
01:01:01,357 --> 01:01:03,460
so I'm trying to
get to the truth.

1480
01:01:03,493 --> 01:01:05,962
I think everybody very much
had the best of intentions

1481
01:01:05,995 --> 01:01:07,797
and really did want
to serve Francis

1482
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:09,699
and really did want
to serve the film,

1483
01:01:09,732 --> 01:01:12,969
but I think we all
still wanted to make sure

1484
01:01:13,002 --> 01:01:15,472
that we were trying to honor

1485
01:01:15,505 --> 01:01:17,773
what was initially
asked of us.

1486
01:01:17,807 --> 01:01:19,909
The <i>Hollywood</i>  article
just said,

1487
01:01:19,942 --> 01:01:21,877
okay, same thing
happened on <i>Apocalypse,</i>

1488
01:01:21,911 --> 01:01:24,380
same thing happened
<i>One From the Heart.</i>

1489
01:01:24,414 --> 01:01:28,218
It's sort of open season to
speculate on my craziness.

1490
01:01:28,251 --> 01:01:32,422
To achieve that epic scale
and this big vision

1491
01:01:32,455 --> 01:01:34,156
that's in all
of his key frames

1492
01:01:34,190 --> 01:01:36,859
while still doing it with
a really lean art department

1493
01:01:36,892 --> 01:01:39,161
that he was
more accustomed to.

1494
01:01:39,195 --> 01:01:41,664
Well, you know,
basically cost overruns.

1495
01:01:41,698 --> 01:01:45,101
In other words, the art
department of the film,

1496
01:01:45,134 --> 01:01:47,604
the last film they did was
<i>Guardians of the Galaxy.</i>

1497
01:01:47,637 --> 01:01:50,373
I've wondered if we missed
the signs earlier on

1498
01:01:50,406 --> 01:01:52,709
that he wanted to approach
the movie differently.

1499
01:01:52,742 --> 01:01:55,278
I do wonder if he didn't
communicate it as clearly.

1500
01:01:55,311 --> 01:01:58,147
One department needed
to eliminate one person

1501
01:01:58,180 --> 01:02:02,018
for constantly going
over budget, yeah.

1502
01:02:02,051 --> 01:02:05,455
Knowing what I do now about
how Francis prefers to work,

1503
01:02:05,488 --> 01:02:07,624
I really do feel like we
would have built this film

1504
01:02:07,657 --> 01:02:08,924
very differently.

1505
01:02:08,958 --> 01:02:11,494
We're on schedule,
I love the actors

1506
01:02:11,528 --> 01:02:14,230
and the look is great.

1507
01:02:14,264 --> 01:02:16,232
I don't know what
anyone's talking about.

1508
01:02:16,266 --> 01:02:18,801
I thought long
and hard about it.

1509
01:02:18,834 --> 01:02:22,872
It was very upsetting
and I felt like, um...

1510
01:02:22,905 --> 01:02:25,174
I felt like I was
put in a position

1511
01:02:25,207 --> 01:02:28,110
where there was
no way forward.

1512
01:02:28,978 --> 01:02:31,681
No one says who
these sources are.

1513
01:02:31,714 --> 01:02:33,916
Just sort of, oh,
we heard some gossip.

1514
01:02:33,949 --> 01:02:36,319
To that I say, ha-ha.

1515
01:02:36,352 --> 01:02:37,320
Wait and see.

1516
01:02:37,353 --> 01:02:40,557
[gargling]

1517
01:02:40,590 --> 01:02:43,393
My observation of Francis
was that he was suddenly

1518
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:45,061
incredibly cheerful.

1519
01:02:45,094 --> 01:02:47,597
[Francis] Okay, we're going
to go for it, Shia.

1520
01:02:47,630 --> 01:02:49,766
We're going to shoot
because we're ready to shoot.

1521
01:02:49,799 --> 01:02:50,667
We're born ready.

1522
01:02:51,401 --> 01:02:52,669
Action.

1523
01:02:53,936 --> 01:02:55,104
Whoo!

1524
01:02:55,371 --> 01:02:56,339
[screaming]

1525
01:02:56,372 --> 01:02:58,007
Again, again!

1526
01:03:04,213 --> 01:03:05,782
[Francis] Okay, cut.

1527
01:03:08,484 --> 01:03:11,454
I'm Giancarlo Esposito,

1528
01:03:11,487 --> 01:03:12,988
born in Copenhagen, Denmark,

1529
01:03:13,022 --> 01:03:15,124
raised in Rome, Italy.

1530
01:03:15,157 --> 01:03:17,660
I guess you'd call me
a Black Italian.

1531
01:03:17,694 --> 01:03:19,962
I still don't know who I am,
still trying to find out.

1532
01:03:19,995 --> 01:03:21,997
[Francis]
What's going on in this scene

1533
01:03:22,031 --> 01:03:24,100
is the crux of the matter.

1534
01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:26,102
-Got it.
-You're a good honest man.

1535
01:03:26,135 --> 01:03:28,871
Yes, I'm frustrated in
this moment that I can't.

1536
01:03:28,904 --> 01:03:31,641
Because the people
of the city have real needs.

1537
01:03:31,674 --> 01:03:33,275
They need
the garbage picked up.

1538
01:03:33,309 --> 01:03:35,044
They need this.
And you don't have the funds,

1539
01:03:35,077 --> 01:03:36,713
but he does.

1540
01:03:36,746 --> 01:03:39,215
You're playing this
as if you can get this

1541
01:03:39,248 --> 01:03:41,684
because it's for
the people's need.

1542
01:03:41,718 --> 01:03:42,785
-Yes.
-And that to you

1543
01:03:42,819 --> 01:03:44,387
trumps everything.

1544
01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:46,356
And he believes sincerely,

1545
01:03:46,389 --> 01:03:48,391
what's the difference
if we pull this off

1546
01:03:48,424 --> 01:03:50,660
for this generation
and our grandchildren

1547
01:03:50,693 --> 01:03:52,362
end up with nothing?

1548
01:03:52,395 --> 01:03:54,196
And action.

1549
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:56,031
[Cesar] Here is my plan...

1550
01:03:56,065 --> 01:03:57,834
That city
that people can dream about.

1551
01:03:57,867 --> 01:04:00,436
People don't need dreams.

1552
01:04:00,470 --> 01:04:02,672
They need jobs, sanitation,

1553
01:04:02,705 --> 01:04:04,173
teachers and police.

1554
01:04:04,206 --> 01:04:05,908
No time to talk
to people's future.

1555
01:04:05,941 --> 01:04:07,810
<i>Yet there's always</i>
<i>time to convince them</i>

1556
01:04:07,844 --> 01:04:09,545
<i>to use money they don't have</i>

1557
01:04:09,579 --> 01:04:11,280
<i>to buy things they don't need</i>

1558
01:04:11,313 --> 01:04:13,783
<i>to imitate people</i>
<i>they don't like.</i>

1559
01:04:13,816 --> 01:04:16,719
<i>Which makes you</i>
<i>the chief slumlord</i>

1560
01:04:16,753 --> 01:04:18,554
<i>and the mayor of</i>
<i>the city of nothing.</i>

1561
01:04:18,588 --> 01:04:20,156
[Cicero] Slumlord!

1562
01:04:20,189 --> 01:04:21,658
You will not call me
a slumlord!

1563
01:04:21,691 --> 01:04:23,459
[Francis] Photographers,
yell at her! Get mad.

1564
01:04:23,493 --> 01:04:25,194
Tell her to get
the hell out of the way.

1565
01:04:25,227 --> 01:04:26,896
She's ruining your shots.

1566
01:04:27,897 --> 01:04:29,165
Excuse me.

1567
01:04:29,198 --> 01:04:31,333
[Cicero] You will not
call me a slumlord!

1568
01:04:31,367 --> 01:04:35,938
I read the script
23 years ago,

1569
01:04:35,971 --> 01:04:38,508
maybe 25 years ago.

1570
01:04:38,541 --> 01:04:41,076
I think there's always
a question about,

1571
01:04:41,110 --> 01:04:43,279
you know, genius at work

1572
01:04:43,312 --> 01:04:47,583
you know, who not many of
us understand or get that.

1573
01:04:47,617 --> 01:04:50,286
Like, what is
going on right now?

1574
01:04:50,319 --> 01:04:52,588
Well, you know what?
That guy knows.

1575
01:04:52,622 --> 01:04:54,590
Or he doesn't know.

1576
01:04:54,624 --> 01:04:58,994
And for him to allow
the space for himself

1577
01:04:59,028 --> 01:05:01,931
to do this for himself

1578
01:05:01,964 --> 01:05:04,634
by his own hand, handmade,

1579
01:05:04,667 --> 01:05:06,736
is a beautiful thing.

1580
01:05:06,769 --> 01:05:08,170
Like, when you think
about that,

1581
01:05:08,204 --> 01:05:09,672
this is an 83-year-old man

1582
01:05:09,706 --> 01:05:12,675
who's lived such
a beautiful life

1583
01:05:12,709 --> 01:05:18,614
doing a passion
project on his own.

1584
01:05:18,648 --> 01:05:20,149
I mean, come on.

1585
01:05:20,182 --> 01:05:25,788
When chaos throws a lot of
difficult options at me,

1586
01:05:25,822 --> 01:05:28,424
my imagination
usually comes through

1587
01:05:28,458 --> 01:05:29,892
to suggest an alternative

1588
01:05:29,926 --> 01:05:32,094
that doesn't have to stop.

1589
01:05:33,629 --> 01:05:36,699
And that's what seems
like thriving on chaos,

1590
01:05:36,733 --> 01:05:39,235
rather than what really
is happening,

1591
01:05:39,268 --> 01:05:42,238
is that I am
confronting chaos.

1592
01:05:47,944 --> 01:05:53,315
[dramatic music playing]

1593
01:05:58,287 --> 01:06:00,490
[Figgis] What does it cost
to hire this space...

1594
01:06:00,523 --> 01:06:01,691
for how many
days?

1595
01:06:01,724 --> 01:06:03,726
It's about ten days

1596
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,461
at a cost of about
a half a million dollars.

1597
01:06:05,495 --> 01:06:09,632
-[Figgis] How many extras?
-150 times several days.

1598
01:06:09,665 --> 01:06:12,034
In terms of manpower
and rentals,

1599
01:06:12,067 --> 01:06:13,603
another half
a million dollars.

1600
01:06:13,636 --> 01:06:15,104
[Figgis]
What about feeding everybody?

1601
01:06:15,137 --> 01:06:17,640
[Michael]
$15,000 to $20,000 per day.

1602
01:06:19,208 --> 01:06:20,510
We have a lot of costumers.

1603
01:06:20,543 --> 01:06:21,611
We have a lot of hairstylists.

1604
01:06:21,644 --> 01:06:23,245
We have a lot of
makeup artists.

1605
01:06:23,279 --> 01:06:26,282
And Milena meticulously
signing off on every performer

1606
01:06:26,315 --> 01:06:27,984
and every
background performer.

1607
01:06:28,017 --> 01:06:28,985
It takes a lot of time.

1608
01:06:29,018 --> 01:06:31,554
There isn't a need to be here

1609
01:06:31,587 --> 01:06:33,656
to accomplish what
he wants to accomplish.

1610
01:06:33,689 --> 01:06:36,492
But Francis insisted
on filming here.

1611
01:06:36,526 --> 01:06:38,327
And I think having spent
the amount of time with him

1612
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,962
I have now,
I think he really needs

1613
01:06:39,996 --> 01:06:41,664
to feel physical space.

1614
01:06:42,665 --> 01:06:45,301
-Hi.
-Goodbye.

1615
01:06:45,334 --> 01:06:46,636
Oh, my titty.

1616
01:06:46,669 --> 01:06:47,737
Whoo!

1617
01:06:49,605 --> 01:06:50,807
[woman] Go Grace!

1618
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,411
Look at this... Whoa... shit.

1619
01:06:55,444 --> 01:06:56,779
[Francis]
To give Osvaldo an idea

1620
01:06:56,813 --> 01:06:58,480
of what this
weird movie is like

1621
01:06:58,514 --> 01:07:00,550
so he knows how to
write the music.

1622
01:07:00,583 --> 01:07:03,619
And we saw this thing,
and it was like...

1623
01:07:03,653 --> 01:07:05,588
-Holy shit.
-[man] Oh, that's great.

1624
01:07:05,621 --> 01:07:06,889
[Francis] I was amazed.

1625
01:07:06,923 --> 01:07:08,891
[Figgis] Francis, what
surprised you the most?

1626
01:07:08,925 --> 01:07:10,292
How it gelled.

1627
01:07:10,326 --> 01:07:12,662
How it wasn't a lot of parts,

1628
01:07:12,695 --> 01:07:15,331
it was... it was
a unified vision.

1629
01:07:15,364 --> 01:07:19,035
It's like I almost feel
I saw a glimpse of the movie.

1630
01:07:19,068 --> 01:07:20,336
I didn't say, oh,
isn't that photography

1631
01:07:20,369 --> 01:07:21,637
in that shot good?

1632
01:07:21,671 --> 01:07:23,673
Oh, isn't Adam in
that shot good?

1633
01:07:23,706 --> 01:07:24,941
Aren't the costumes
interesting?

1634
01:07:24,974 --> 01:07:27,242
But all these
disparate elements

1635
01:07:27,276 --> 01:07:29,178
didn't come to me as separate,

1636
01:07:29,211 --> 01:07:30,780
oh, that's good, that's good,

1637
01:07:30,813 --> 01:07:32,582
it came like, holy shit.

1638
01:07:32,615 --> 01:07:35,985
It's like I've got
a peek of something

1639
01:07:36,018 --> 01:07:37,820
that never existed before.

1640
01:07:37,854 --> 01:07:41,991
I'm only happy because it
looked like I'm not dead.

1641
01:07:42,024 --> 01:07:43,693
I mean, there have
been times when I said,

1642
01:07:43,726 --> 01:07:45,227
how am I going to
get out of this mess?

1643
01:07:45,260 --> 01:07:47,897
As you know,
I worry about am I

1644
01:07:47,930 --> 01:07:52,167
bankrupting my family
on some crazy thing?

1645
01:07:52,201 --> 01:07:55,838
Anyway, you know, I have...
I've alternated

1646
01:07:55,872 --> 01:07:58,875
by being very depressed
and very elated.

1647
01:07:58,908 --> 01:08:01,176
It's typical manic
depressive behavior.

1648
01:08:01,210 --> 01:08:03,445
But Richard Strauss
said, you know,

1649
01:08:03,479 --> 01:08:06,048
compared to Mozart
and Beethoven and Haydn

1650
01:08:06,082 --> 01:08:09,251
and Mendelssohn,
I'm a second-rate composer,

1651
01:08:09,284 --> 01:08:11,988
but I'm a first-rate,
second-rate composer.

1652
01:08:12,021 --> 01:08:15,257
I say, me, Francis
I'm a second-rate director,

1653
01:08:15,290 --> 01:08:17,960
but I'm a first-rate
second-rate director.

1654
01:08:19,495 --> 01:08:20,930
[Figgis] How's it going?

1655
01:08:20,963 --> 01:08:23,298
It's, it's going
well, actually.

1656
01:08:23,332 --> 01:08:26,703
It's going pretty well
for the three weeks or so

1657
01:08:26,736 --> 01:08:28,337
I've been a part of this.

1658
01:08:28,370 --> 01:08:30,673
[Figgis] How did
all this come about?

1659
01:08:30,707 --> 01:08:34,711
Well, I've come in,
in my position in this,

1660
01:08:34,744 --> 01:08:36,145
I've been able
to take advantage of

1661
01:08:36,178 --> 01:08:38,013
coming in naive and new

1662
01:08:38,047 --> 01:08:40,883
and inquisitive
about a lot of things

1663
01:08:41,383 --> 01:08:43,485
where I have his most
latest thoughts and insights

1664
01:08:43,518 --> 01:08:45,855
into what that
space or environment

1665
01:08:45,888 --> 01:08:47,189
is that he's expecting,

1666
01:08:47,223 --> 01:08:49,158
where maybe there
were conversations

1667
01:08:49,191 --> 01:08:51,427
six months ago
and no one's had a chance

1668
01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:52,828
to follow up with him about,

1669
01:08:52,862 --> 01:08:54,630
because they had a plan
that he said yes to

1670
01:08:54,664 --> 01:08:56,899
that maybe now has
changed his mind.

1671
01:08:56,933 --> 01:08:58,434
Or if we have
the background over here,

1672
01:08:58,467 --> 01:08:59,769
it gives you space.

1673
01:08:59,802 --> 01:09:01,771
In his approach to be
saving money,

1674
01:09:01,804 --> 01:09:03,272
the schedule has
changed around.

1675
01:09:03,305 --> 01:09:05,607
So one set that
was only designed

1676
01:09:05,641 --> 01:09:07,243
for the Clodio's loft

1677
01:09:07,276 --> 01:09:09,278
we're now making into two
or three different sets.

1678
01:09:09,311 --> 01:09:11,881
So it's been fun
to go repurpose

1679
01:09:11,914 --> 01:09:13,883
as much as we can.

1680
01:09:13,916 --> 01:09:16,919
I came into an understanding
that it's his money,

1681
01:09:16,953 --> 01:09:18,888
I'm not going
to be the no-person,

1682
01:09:18,921 --> 01:09:20,656
I'm going to be the yes, but
it's going to cost you this.

1683
01:09:20,690 --> 01:09:22,057
Do you want to do that?

1684
01:09:22,091 --> 01:09:23,793
How long does
it take to activate?

1685
01:09:23,826 --> 01:09:25,560
[Bradley] He's still trying to
figure out what, in his mind.

1686
01:09:25,594 --> 01:09:27,196
That's the Megalon.

1687
01:09:27,229 --> 01:09:28,798
[Bradley]
This Megalopolis city

1688
01:09:28,831 --> 01:09:30,466
and Megalon material
looks like.

1689
01:09:30,499 --> 01:09:32,268
We're not really
sure what it is.

1690
01:09:32,301 --> 01:09:34,503
It's a Francis question.

1691
01:09:34,536 --> 01:09:36,538
I think everybody's still
trying to figure that out.

1692
01:09:39,108 --> 01:09:41,811
[Figgis] Have you got like
a tight remit of like

1693
01:09:41,844 --> 01:09:44,079
what it needs to do within
this small space of time?

1694
01:09:44,113 --> 01:09:48,184
No... No, and I think
a lot of it...

1695
01:09:48,217 --> 01:09:50,352
I'm not frustrated by it,
frustrated,

1696
01:09:50,385 --> 01:09:52,521
because I know
it's in his own mind

1697
01:09:52,554 --> 01:09:54,724
he's still trying to
figure out what he wants.

1698
01:09:54,757 --> 01:09:57,694
And part of my job is to help

1699
01:09:57,727 --> 01:09:59,195
find what he wants.

1700
01:09:59,228 --> 01:10:02,932
Uh... but there's also
a really clever way

1701
01:10:02,965 --> 01:10:04,834
in which I don't think
we have to make

1702
01:10:04,867 --> 01:10:07,169
that decision on
the day-to-day

1703
01:10:07,203 --> 01:10:08,938
in the scenery
that we're developing

1704
01:10:08,971 --> 01:10:12,174
that includes a lot of that
organic and magical material

1705
01:10:12,208 --> 01:10:13,408
that will be more
in the distance

1706
01:10:13,442 --> 01:10:15,244
and behind as a set extension

1707
01:10:15,277 --> 01:10:17,179
rather than something tactile

1708
01:10:17,213 --> 01:10:18,680
that we need to develop.

1709
01:10:18,715 --> 01:10:20,516
And he also doesn't
quite want to spend

1710
01:10:20,549 --> 01:10:23,919
the money on what that is.

1711
01:10:23,953 --> 01:10:26,288
So pinning this down will be

1712
01:10:26,322 --> 01:10:28,590
kind of a challenge
going forward.

1713
01:10:28,623 --> 01:10:30,125
[Shia] Can we just have
one rehearsal?

1714
01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:32,094
-One rehearsal.
-[man] It looked really good.

1715
01:10:32,127 --> 01:10:34,363
[woman] I don't make
those calls, you guys.

1716
01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:35,931
[man] All right, to key one.

1717
01:10:35,965 --> 01:10:37,699
[woman] For my money,
that means that Madeleine

1718
01:10:37,733 --> 01:10:41,136
is entering first so that
people are moving behind her.

1719
01:10:41,170 --> 01:10:42,872
Maybe just standing up,
we just kiss...

1720
01:10:42,905 --> 01:10:44,974
The grapes are really good.

1721
01:10:45,007 --> 01:10:46,475
And then...

1722
01:10:46,508 --> 01:10:47,943
-Get on top of me, whatever.
-I'll try.

1723
01:10:47,977 --> 01:10:50,145
I mean, I feel like
if it's too much.

1724
01:10:50,179 --> 01:10:51,180
What do you think?

1725
01:10:51,213 --> 01:10:52,281
Should she get on top of me?

1726
01:10:52,314 --> 01:10:53,549
Should I get on top of her?

1727
01:10:53,582 --> 01:10:55,117
[Figgis] I don't think,
I just observe.

1728
01:10:55,150 --> 01:10:57,319
-Okay, that's fine.
-Well, okay.

1729
01:10:57,353 --> 01:10:58,354
What would you
like to observe?

1730
01:10:58,387 --> 01:10:59,922
[Figgis] Anything you like.

1731
01:10:59,955 --> 01:11:01,824
That's a very
Werner Herzog of you.

1732
01:11:01,858 --> 01:11:03,392
I don't think, I just observe.

1733
01:11:05,194 --> 01:11:10,665
My job, in a way, is to
make a good documentary.

1734
01:11:10,699 --> 01:11:12,034
But the thing is,
you start a documentary,

1735
01:11:12,068 --> 01:11:13,602
you don't know
what it's about.

1736
01:11:13,635 --> 01:11:16,171
Is it just about
making the film?

1737
01:11:16,205 --> 01:11:18,040
Or is it about Francis?

1738
01:11:18,074 --> 01:11:19,809
Or is it about the actors?

1739
01:11:19,842 --> 01:11:21,476
In fact, is it
about all those things?

1740
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:22,879
But where's the story?

1741
01:11:22,912 --> 01:11:24,847
Because all the really
good documentaries

1742
01:11:24,881 --> 01:11:26,215
about filmmaking has actually

1743
01:11:26,248 --> 01:11:28,217
been stories about disasters.

1744
01:11:28,250 --> 01:11:33,188
So, you know, every time
something negative happens,

1745
01:11:33,222 --> 01:11:35,057
I think, oh, that's good
for the documentary.

1746
01:11:35,091 --> 01:11:38,427
So that's a weird
feeling by itself.

1747
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:41,430
And obviously, it's got
a lot of actors in.

1748
01:11:41,463 --> 01:11:43,332
And I have
different relationships

1749
01:11:43,365 --> 01:11:45,167
with all of the actors.

1750
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:46,435
From the very beginning,

1751
01:11:46,468 --> 01:11:49,004
Shia LaBeouf
was super friendly.

1752
01:11:49,038 --> 01:11:54,410
From the very beginning,
Aubrey Plaza was fun.

1753
01:11:54,443 --> 01:11:56,412
Like she would pretend
to be pissed off,

1754
01:11:56,445 --> 01:11:57,779
but she wasn't
really pissed off.

1755
01:11:57,813 --> 01:12:00,416
Those relationships have
continued to build.

1756
01:12:00,449 --> 01:12:01,650
Jon Voight
from the very beginning

1757
01:12:01,683 --> 01:12:03,218
super, super friendly.

1758
01:12:03,252 --> 01:12:05,020
Most of the actors
are very friendly.

1759
01:12:05,054 --> 01:12:06,521
And then there was an
interesting moment,

1760
01:12:06,555 --> 01:12:08,090
because Adam Driver
came on the set

1761
01:12:08,124 --> 01:12:10,059
much later than
everybody else.

1762
01:12:10,092 --> 01:12:13,062
So this time,
two things happened.

1763
01:12:13,095 --> 01:12:14,630
Because the other actor
that I'm having

1764
01:12:14,663 --> 01:12:18,434
some problems with
is Nathalie Emmanuel.

1765
01:12:18,467 --> 01:12:20,702
She also... I got a little
message from her agent.

1766
01:12:20,735 --> 01:12:22,171
She doesn't like to be filmed

1767
01:12:22,204 --> 01:12:24,106
when she's eating,
blah, blah, blah.

1768
01:12:24,140 --> 01:12:28,277
And Francis was doing
theatre games

1769
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:30,045
involving them all eating,

1770
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:31,580
so that was a
bit limiting, too.

1771
01:12:31,613 --> 01:12:33,983
And then one day
she was talking to Adam.

1772
01:12:34,016 --> 01:12:35,417
They play a couple
in the film.

1773
01:12:35,451 --> 01:12:36,852
And Adam looked at me
and said,

1774
01:12:36,886 --> 01:12:38,020
first time I made eye contact.

1775
01:12:38,053 --> 01:12:41,190
So I said, Adam, it's Mike.

1776
01:12:41,223 --> 01:12:42,591
Mike Figgis.

1777
01:12:42,624 --> 01:12:44,660
And he went, oh my God,
Mike, how are you?

1778
01:12:44,693 --> 01:12:46,761
Did you just get here?

1779
01:12:46,795 --> 01:12:48,563
And I said, no, I had
sort of been here

1780
01:12:48,597 --> 01:12:50,166
for quite a long time,

1781
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:51,467
but I didn't want
to get in your space.

1782
01:12:51,500 --> 01:12:53,568
And then I asked him, I said,

1783
01:12:53,602 --> 01:12:57,006
I have heard you don't want,
you don't like being filmed.

1784
01:12:57,039 --> 01:13:00,075
And he said, oh well,
as it's you, no, that's okay.

1785
01:13:00,109 --> 01:13:03,479
But every time I have been
in the space with him,

1786
01:13:03,512 --> 01:13:06,348
he's kind of got Mike, sorry,
can you... do you mind?

1787
01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:07,516
But I get it.

1788
01:13:07,549 --> 01:13:09,151
I do understand
there's a difference

1789
01:13:09,185 --> 01:13:11,887
between the camera that's
filming you for the film

1790
01:13:11,921 --> 01:13:14,156
and the camera that's
recording your relationship

1791
01:13:14,190 --> 01:13:16,525
with the camera.
That's very different.

1792
01:13:16,558 --> 01:13:21,230
So I do understand it
and I respect his space.

1793
01:13:21,263 --> 01:13:22,864
Whilst it's a little
bit annoying

1794
01:13:22,898 --> 01:13:24,866
for whatever I want to do,
at the end of the day,

1795
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:26,868
I'm the documentary.
I'm the fly on the wall.

1796
01:13:26,902 --> 01:13:28,770
I am not the film.

1797
01:13:28,803 --> 01:13:31,740
And sometimes it's quite
difficult for me to...

1798
01:13:31,773 --> 01:13:33,675
I have to remind myself
that I'm not

1799
01:13:33,709 --> 01:13:34,843
the director of the film.

1800
01:13:34,876 --> 01:13:36,979
I'm making a documentary.

1801
01:13:37,013 --> 01:13:38,613
So I have a plan.

1802
01:13:38,647 --> 01:13:39,982
I think I'm going to
just go to Adam and say,

1803
01:13:40,016 --> 01:13:42,351
look, I think
you're uncomfortable.

1804
01:13:42,384 --> 01:13:45,487
I don't want to compromise
what you're doing.

1805
01:13:45,521 --> 01:13:48,924
But it's also kind of
compromising what I would do.

1806
01:13:48,958 --> 01:13:50,726
So it's probably better
that if you're in a scene,

1807
01:13:50,759 --> 01:13:53,229
I just don't come.

1808
01:13:53,262 --> 01:13:56,131
On the other hand, you could
then do an interview

1809
01:13:56,165 --> 01:13:59,268
for me one on one.

1810
01:13:59,301 --> 01:14:03,905
Off the set, so I'm not
distracting your acting.

1811
01:14:03,939 --> 01:14:07,043
And we could do some
interesting stuff

1812
01:14:07,076 --> 01:14:08,377
for this documentary

1813
01:14:08,410 --> 01:14:10,912
just between you and me,

1814
01:14:10,946 --> 01:14:12,681
an actor talking to
a director.

1815
01:14:12,714 --> 01:14:14,849
[man] Cut to, interior,
the four seasons, night.

1816
01:14:14,883 --> 01:14:16,285
Gift.

1817
01:14:16,318 --> 01:14:17,386
The guests are enjoying
the lavish wedding meal.

1818
01:14:17,419 --> 01:14:18,820
Gift.

1819
01:14:18,853 --> 01:14:20,155
Hamilton Schuyler sits
with his new wife

1820
01:14:20,189 --> 01:14:21,290
at the bridal table
with Serge,

1821
01:14:21,323 --> 01:14:22,791
the groomsman
and the bridesmaids.

1822
01:14:22,824 --> 01:14:27,629
<i>I'd like to propose a toast</i>
<i>to Wow Platinum</i>

1823
01:14:27,662 --> 01:14:29,531
<i>and my dear Uncle Hamilton.</i>

1824
01:14:29,565 --> 01:14:31,567
<i>Together they represent</i>
<i>the big three:</i>

1825
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,771
<i>economics, journalism,</i>
<i>and sex appeal.</i>

1826
01:14:35,804 --> 01:14:37,506
[laughing]

1827
01:14:37,539 --> 01:14:39,508
<i>To the future of our families.</i>

1828
01:14:39,541 --> 01:14:41,843
<i>To the future of our families.</i>

1829
01:14:43,012 --> 01:14:44,580
[Francis]
Are you guys in character?

1830
01:14:44,613 --> 01:14:46,415
Yes.

1831
01:14:46,448 --> 01:14:48,084
I'm afraid Hamilton's
not paying attention

1832
01:14:48,117 --> 01:14:49,884
to his bank these days.

1833
01:14:49,918 --> 01:14:52,387
He's... how shall I say?

1834
01:14:52,421 --> 01:14:54,256
-How shall I say?
-[Uma] Distracted?

1835
01:14:54,290 --> 01:14:55,357
Distracted?

1836
01:14:55,390 --> 01:14:56,725
I guess by me.

1837
01:14:56,758 --> 01:14:58,994
By me, I guess.

1838
01:14:59,028 --> 01:15:00,829
[Uma] He doesn't realize how
weak he is at this moment.

1839
01:15:00,862 --> 01:15:03,465
He has no idea how weak
he is at this moment.

1840
01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:06,135
-[Uma] A perfect target.
-A perfect target.

1841
01:15:06,168 --> 01:15:08,104
[woman]
Let's start just clearing

1842
01:15:08,137 --> 01:15:09,871
so we can find
a frame, everybody.

1843
01:15:09,904 --> 01:15:12,674
We're going to be super wide.

1844
01:15:16,278 --> 01:15:17,813
[Figgis] What are we doing?

1845
01:15:17,846 --> 01:15:21,550
Putting the arrow
just for the stunt.

1846
01:15:21,583 --> 01:15:24,520
When he gets shot in the butt.

1847
01:15:24,553 --> 01:15:26,122
[woman]
Are we rigged with the arrow?

1848
01:15:26,155 --> 01:15:27,689
-[man] Yes.
-[man 2] Marker.

1849
01:15:28,324 --> 01:15:31,327
[Francis] Ready and action.

1850
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,994
[grunting]

1851
01:15:33,028 --> 01:15:35,230
[shouts]

1852
01:15:35,264 --> 01:15:37,266
This is your closing bell,
honey.

1853
01:15:37,299 --> 01:15:38,367
Bang!

1854
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:47,042
He's like Willy Wonka,
you know?

1855
01:15:47,076 --> 01:15:48,043
He comes out with the cane,

1856
01:15:48,077 --> 01:15:49,778
and then the cane goes away,

1857
01:15:49,811 --> 01:15:51,046
and you're like, oh,
you didn't need the cane?

1858
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,615
Oh, so he really, oh, okay,

1859
01:15:53,649 --> 01:15:55,551
because I thought he was...

1860
01:15:55,584 --> 01:15:59,121
he's like a mad scientist,
you know,

1861
01:15:59,155 --> 01:16:01,323
with like mismatching socks.

1862
01:16:01,357 --> 01:16:02,824
[Francis] Okay, one second.

1863
01:16:02,858 --> 01:16:07,196
[Plaza] He works from a place
of just pure passion,

1864
01:16:07,229 --> 01:16:10,599
and he's a romantic,
and he's very repressed.

1865
01:16:10,632 --> 01:16:12,368
-[Figgis] He's very what?
-What?

1866
01:16:12,401 --> 01:16:13,735
[Figgis]
What was the last phrase?

1867
01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:19,074
Um, I don't remember
what I said.

1868
01:16:19,108 --> 01:16:23,312
Your old town,
master of the known world.

1869
01:16:23,345 --> 01:16:24,380
[Plaza] We all are.

1870
01:16:24,413 --> 01:16:25,747
It's finally...

1871
01:16:25,780 --> 01:16:27,349
[Plaza] All of us Catholics,
you know.

1872
01:16:27,383 --> 01:16:30,152
We're all just good old
Catholic boys and girls

1873
01:16:30,186 --> 01:16:32,020
getting together,
making a little play.

1874
01:16:33,389 --> 01:16:35,157
Who was your
favorite dance partner?

1875
01:16:35,191 --> 01:16:36,758
Who elevated you?

1876
01:16:36,791 --> 01:16:38,394
[Hoffman] The second film
I did was <i>Cowboy,</i>

1877
01:16:38,427 --> 01:16:39,961
and I guess it was Voight,

1878
01:16:39,994 --> 01:16:41,463
because we improvised
in rehearsal

1879
01:16:41,496 --> 01:16:43,765
for about three weeks
in a room,

1880
01:16:43,798 --> 01:16:45,734
and the times that
we weren't in that room,

1881
01:16:45,767 --> 01:16:48,137
we hung out together,
and we would go to places

1882
01:16:48,170 --> 01:16:50,572
that we thought
the characters would go to.

1883
01:16:50,606 --> 01:16:52,574
There had to be a click
because of how far

1884
01:16:52,608 --> 01:16:54,843
that character is
from your natural,

1885
01:16:54,876 --> 01:16:57,879
uh... just even mannerism.

1886
01:16:57,913 --> 01:17:00,081
It wasn't for me.

1887
01:17:00,115 --> 01:17:01,983
[Shia]
To go from Dustin into Ratso?

1888
01:17:02,016 --> 01:17:05,221
I was Ratso.

1889
01:17:05,254 --> 01:17:06,955
[Shia] With all
the mannerisms, though,

1890
01:17:06,988 --> 01:17:08,657
-There's a certain...
-No, not with the mannerisms.

1891
01:17:08,690 --> 01:17:10,426
But going through
junior high school,

1892
01:17:10,459 --> 01:17:12,194
high school, city college.

1893
01:17:12,228 --> 01:17:13,695
I was an outsider.

1894
01:17:13,729 --> 01:17:16,131
I was funny-looking.
I was short.

1895
01:17:16,165 --> 01:17:18,234
I had a lot of acne, so...

1896
01:17:18,267 --> 01:17:19,568
[Shia]
You had the soul of him down.

1897
01:17:19,601 --> 01:17:23,305
-I felt I was Ratso.
-Ratso.

1898
01:17:23,338 --> 01:17:26,074
[Figgis] Tell me a
little bit about Francis

1899
01:17:26,107 --> 01:17:27,776
and your relationship
with Francis.

1900
01:17:27,809 --> 01:17:29,778
Well, that's a quick answer.

1901
01:17:29,811 --> 01:17:33,749
He never asked me
to work with him.

1902
01:17:33,782 --> 01:17:37,552
In fact, I appreciated his
honesty when he called me,

1903
01:17:37,586 --> 01:17:39,087
which was a shock to me,

1904
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,023
to ask me to be in this film.

1905
01:17:42,056 --> 01:17:44,793
Clodio and Huey
are basically seeing

1906
01:17:44,826 --> 01:17:46,662
that there's this
popular uprising...

1907
01:17:46,695 --> 01:17:49,130
[Hoffman] And he said,
I just want you to know,

1908
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:52,167
I wrote this part
for Jimmy Caan,

1909
01:17:52,201 --> 01:17:55,671
but, unfortunately,
he passed away.

1910
01:17:55,704 --> 01:17:57,339
And, of course,
I took the part,

1911
01:17:57,372 --> 01:18:01,009
not even having
a clue what it was.

1912
01:18:01,042 --> 01:18:02,344
And now that I finished it,

1913
01:18:02,377 --> 01:18:04,346
I'm not sure I feel
any differently.

1914
01:18:05,180 --> 01:18:06,648
Who is this? What is this?

1915
01:18:06,682 --> 01:18:07,983
Not so fast.

1916
01:18:08,016 --> 01:18:09,418
[woman] Catilina leveled
their neighborhood...

1917
01:18:09,451 --> 01:18:10,619
Turn and then listen.

1918
01:18:10,652 --> 01:18:11,987
Catilina leveled
their neighborhood

1919
01:18:12,020 --> 01:18:13,489
for his fucking Megalopolis.

1920
01:18:13,522 --> 01:18:15,056
[Figgis] You know, I've been
here for months,

1921
01:18:15,089 --> 01:18:17,025
and I'd notice a repetition
of him saying,

1922
01:18:17,058 --> 01:18:19,728
I just want to have fun.

1923
01:18:19,761 --> 01:18:21,330
[Hoffman] I think he means it.

1924
01:18:21,363 --> 01:18:23,365
See, this is power, man.

1925
01:18:23,398 --> 01:18:25,734
That exchange, this.
This is where we find power.

1926
01:18:25,767 --> 01:18:27,202
[Hoffman]
I've always felt that

1927
01:18:27,236 --> 01:18:28,737
there's two kinds
of directors,

1928
01:18:28,770 --> 01:18:32,007
those that like actors and
those that don't like actors.

1929
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,543
A psychological
interpretation could be

1930
01:18:34,576 --> 01:18:36,678
that a director is kind
of a father figure.

1931
01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:39,548
And the father wants
to have the final say,

1932
01:18:39,581 --> 01:18:43,285
and he wants to be the one
who knows when it's the best.

1933
01:18:43,319 --> 01:18:45,487
So when you ask for one more,

1934
01:18:45,521 --> 01:18:48,324
after you've done all
the ones he likes,

1935
01:18:48,357 --> 01:18:50,225
and you want to do
it differently,

1936
01:18:50,259 --> 01:18:52,294
there's something,
an emptiness,

1937
01:18:52,328 --> 01:18:55,797
that comes across some
of these guy's faces,

1938
01:18:55,831 --> 01:18:58,933
and you know that
you've insulted them.

1939
01:18:58,967 --> 01:19:02,771
And Francis, I find,
is the opposite of that.

1940
01:19:02,804 --> 01:19:04,706
He loves actors.

1941
01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:06,808
And I feel that that's
what Francis wants,

1942
01:19:06,842 --> 01:19:08,544
as much as anything.

1943
01:19:08,577 --> 01:19:11,313
It's just to enjoy it and have
the actors enjoy it.

1944
01:19:11,347 --> 01:19:12,381
It's important to him.

1945
01:19:12,414 --> 01:19:14,015
These are immigrants.

1946
01:19:14,049 --> 01:19:15,851
They believe in citizenship
and speak their vote.

1947
01:19:15,884 --> 01:19:17,619
You understand?

1948
01:19:17,652 --> 01:19:18,754
[man] Okay, got it.

1949
01:19:20,322 --> 01:19:22,724
[Francis] Begin.

1950
01:19:22,758 --> 01:19:24,293
Vamanos Brooklyn.

1951
01:19:24,326 --> 01:19:26,495
[Francis] Si, senor.

1952
01:19:31,966 --> 01:19:33,869
You know, Anton, my old chum.

1953
01:19:33,902 --> 01:19:36,071
Interesting thing
about immigrants?

1954
01:19:36,104 --> 01:19:38,307
Paying attention?

1955
01:19:38,340 --> 01:19:41,410
Is that they actually value
their American citizenship.

1956
01:19:41,443 --> 01:19:42,878
They feel like it's
their patriotic duty

1957
01:19:42,911 --> 01:19:44,178
to their new country.

1958
01:19:44,212 --> 01:19:45,881
No.

1959
01:19:45,914 --> 01:19:47,682
You see, I'm a citizen
and you're a citizen.

1960
01:19:47,716 --> 01:19:50,085
I'm a citizen,
you're a citizen.

1961
01:19:50,118 --> 01:19:52,321
This is non-Roman filth.

1962
01:19:52,354 --> 01:19:53,322
Anti-Roman garbage.

1963
01:19:53,355 --> 01:19:54,856
Okay.

1964
01:19:54,890 --> 01:19:56,592
You cast this money out,
and you give me your fur.

1965
01:19:56,625 --> 01:19:59,094
You see that sign
written up in the sky?

1966
01:20:00,596 --> 01:20:02,798
Look really hard
because it says city for sale.

1967
01:20:04,499 --> 01:20:06,568
Let's go out
and knock on some guys.

1968
01:20:07,603 --> 01:20:09,438
-What do we want?
-Homes!

1969
01:20:09,471 --> 01:20:10,806
-When do we want them?
-Now!

1970
01:20:10,839 --> 01:20:12,574
-What do we want?
-Homes!

1971
01:20:12,608 --> 01:20:14,376
-When do we want them?
-Now!

1972
01:20:14,410 --> 01:20:16,111
-What do we want?
-Homes!

1973
01:20:16,144 --> 01:20:17,712
-When do we want them?
-Now!

1974
01:20:17,746 --> 01:20:19,948
[chanting]

1975
01:20:26,822 --> 01:20:28,222
[Gosling] I just found a way
to become

1976
01:20:28,256 --> 01:20:29,658
the king of New York City.

1977
01:20:30,392 --> 01:20:31,993
I'm going to control
the immigrant votes

1978
01:20:32,026 --> 01:20:34,863
in all five boroughs.

1979
01:20:34,896 --> 01:20:36,998
I must speak
all their tongues.

1980
01:20:37,031 --> 01:20:38,299
I'm going to lay my
hands upon them

1981
01:20:38,333 --> 01:20:40,268
as though they were
little sheep.

1982
01:20:40,702 --> 01:20:42,838
And I'm going to
become their messiah.

1983
01:20:44,873 --> 01:20:47,443
Are you excited?

1984
01:20:47,476 --> 01:20:48,743
[Clodio] Huey, look at me.

1985
01:20:50,879 --> 01:20:54,115
You made him a martyr.

1986
01:20:54,149 --> 01:20:55,651
It's bad enough
he won the Nobel.

1987
01:20:55,684 --> 01:20:57,085
Now you've made him a martyr

1988
01:20:57,118 --> 01:20:58,319
because you're
a fucking idiot.

1989
01:20:58,353 --> 01:20:59,488
You're an ignoramus.

1990
01:20:59,521 --> 01:21:01,723
Ignoramus! It's ignoramus.

1991
01:21:01,756 --> 01:21:03,291
[Clodio]
I told you. I said to you.

1992
01:21:03,324 --> 01:21:04,559
I said I don't want you
to hurt him.

1993
01:21:04,593 --> 01:21:06,395
I said that to you.

1994
01:21:06,428 --> 01:21:08,363
I'm in a situation now where
I've spent my whole life

1995
01:21:08,397 --> 01:21:09,531
trying to prove something.

1996
01:21:09,564 --> 01:21:12,000
And now he's not here to see.

1997
01:21:12,033 --> 01:21:13,802
Do you understand?

1998
01:21:13,835 --> 01:21:17,739
[Huey]
Listen, you shouldn't have...

1999
01:21:17,772 --> 01:21:18,807
Get the fuck out.

2000
01:21:26,682 --> 01:21:29,350
[indistinct chatter]

2001
01:21:29,384 --> 01:21:30,986
Get the fuck up
and get out now!

2002
01:21:32,521 --> 01:21:35,724
Sic semper tyrannus!

2003
01:21:45,434 --> 01:21:47,936
[Clodio] Close the door.

2004
01:21:47,969 --> 01:21:49,538
Close the door, please.

2005
01:21:49,571 --> 01:21:52,173
[Francis] Okay. Cut.

2006
01:21:52,207 --> 01:21:54,075
-[woman] Cutting.
-[Francis] Let's do it again.

2007
01:21:54,108 --> 01:21:56,011
I'm not doing any of that.

2008
01:21:56,044 --> 01:21:57,378
[Francis] Yeah, don't do that.

2009
01:21:57,412 --> 01:21:58,480
Let's do it once again.

2010
01:21:58,514 --> 01:22:00,749
-Shia...
-Give him a second.

2011
01:22:05,687 --> 01:22:07,822
Look, we're going to
go work through this.

2012
01:22:07,856 --> 01:22:09,491
It'll be fine.

2013
01:22:09,525 --> 01:22:11,860
[Shia] How do you go
from where we're starting

2014
01:22:11,893 --> 01:22:14,029
to anything other than
straight-up fisticuffs?

2015
01:22:14,062 --> 01:22:16,831
[Francis] Okay,
let me explain it. Why?

2016
01:22:16,865 --> 01:22:19,267
He's sitting in my desk
with his shoes on my desk.

2017
01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:21,069
[Francis] Yeah, but let me
explain something.

2018
01:22:21,102 --> 01:22:23,038
He's been doing
that for a year.

2019
01:22:23,071 --> 01:22:26,374
So you're using this
really as a pretense of,

2020
01:22:26,407 --> 01:22:30,111
in other words, it's...
all right, I come,

2021
01:22:30,144 --> 01:22:31,913
I'm working on a picture,
and you're in my chair,

2022
01:22:31,947 --> 01:22:33,615
and you're talking to Anahid,

2023
01:22:33,648 --> 01:22:35,650
and I come and say, hey,
wait a second, you know,

2024
01:22:35,684 --> 01:22:36,851
this is my chair.

2025
01:22:36,885 --> 01:22:38,554
Can I have my chair?

2026
01:22:38,587 --> 01:22:40,188
And he's like,
well, in other words,

2027
01:22:40,221 --> 01:22:42,824
it could be moderated
at that earlier level.

2028
01:22:42,857 --> 01:22:44,626
You just, in other words,
you can't just

2029
01:22:44,659 --> 01:22:48,296
start a fight at that point.

2030
01:22:48,329 --> 01:22:51,299
Play it like a chess game
that gets heated,

2031
01:22:51,332 --> 01:22:53,301
but it's over
a piece of property

2032
01:22:53,334 --> 01:22:55,504
which is the desk space.

2033
01:22:55,537 --> 01:22:57,506
Okay, let's try it again.

2034
01:22:57,539 --> 01:22:59,140
Here. I'm ready.
Let's just do it.

2035
01:22:59,173 --> 01:23:00,642
God help us.

2036
01:23:00,675 --> 01:23:02,778
All right, so go ahead,
background action, and Huey.

2037
01:23:02,811 --> 01:23:04,780
I walked in here
with reverence, you know,

2038
01:23:04,813 --> 01:23:06,114
but I found that not to be

2039
01:23:06,147 --> 01:23:07,415
an effective way
to work with him.

2040
01:23:07,448 --> 01:23:09,183
It's shit, isn't it?

2041
01:23:09,217 --> 01:23:10,952
Yeah, it's really,
it's so bad, man.

2042
01:23:10,986 --> 01:23:13,054
-It's really...
-[Shia] You wouldn't say.

2043
01:23:13,088 --> 01:23:14,856
Fuck what people
think about it.

2044
01:23:14,889 --> 01:23:17,191
You know, I prayed for this
opportunity, and it happened,

2045
01:23:17,225 --> 01:23:19,393
and God placed me in
a position with a director

2046
01:23:19,427 --> 01:23:21,896
who I was going to respect.

2047
01:23:21,930 --> 01:23:24,232
If I didn't like it, I would
do it again a different way.

2048
01:23:24,265 --> 01:23:26,467
He's just talking shit.

2049
01:23:26,501 --> 01:23:27,669
No, he's not talking shit

2050
01:23:27,702 --> 01:23:28,670
because he would
ask for more takes

2051
01:23:28,703 --> 01:23:31,006
if he wanted something else.

2052
01:23:31,039 --> 01:23:33,775
[Shia] My relationship to him
is really about, like...

2053
01:23:33,809 --> 01:23:35,310
-What'd I promise?
-It's a pinky promise.

2054
01:23:35,343 --> 01:23:37,112
[Shia] You're my dude.

2055
01:23:37,145 --> 01:23:39,681
[Francis] When you see a
movie, <i>Kramer versus Kramer,</i>

2056
01:23:39,714 --> 01:23:41,950
you're looking at
flickering light.

2057
01:23:41,983 --> 01:23:43,885
You're not looking
at anything real.

2058
01:23:43,918 --> 01:23:47,122
There's no real
people up there.

2059
01:23:47,155 --> 01:23:49,924
When he filmed that movie, he
was going through a divorce.

2060
01:23:49,958 --> 01:23:53,061
And they caught it.
They captured it.

2061
01:23:53,094 --> 01:23:57,098
But you don't think
in one line.

2062
01:23:57,132 --> 01:23:59,233
You jump.

2063
01:23:59,267 --> 01:24:01,670
All I'm saying is,
what's on the screen?

2064
01:24:01,703 --> 01:24:03,338
Is it real or
is it flickering light?

2065
01:24:03,371 --> 01:24:04,339
It's real.

2066
01:24:04,372 --> 01:24:06,440
Okay, it's not real.

2067
01:24:06,474 --> 01:24:09,611
In a movie, the only real
thing is the audience.

2068
01:24:09,645 --> 01:24:11,780
[Shia] Okay, but we're having
a real conversation.

2069
01:24:11,813 --> 01:24:13,348
My hand's really
on your shoulder.

2070
01:24:13,381 --> 01:24:15,150
-Figgis is filming it.
-Right.

2071
01:24:15,183 --> 01:24:19,287
Okay, so what they watch
when we talk is real.

2072
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,189
-No, it's not.
-Okay, well, we disagree.

2073
01:24:21,222 --> 01:24:23,625
[man] And action.

2074
01:24:23,659 --> 01:24:26,161
One, two, three.

2075
01:24:27,461 --> 01:24:28,897
Oh!

2076
01:24:28,930 --> 01:24:30,198
Ugh!

2077
01:24:31,667 --> 01:24:33,134
Ah!

2078
01:24:34,569 --> 01:24:35,604
Help.

2079
01:24:36,838 --> 01:24:41,275
I've never worked
with a more open process

2080
01:24:41,309 --> 01:24:42,744
once he gets going.

2081
01:24:42,777 --> 01:24:46,381
He, you know, the things that

2082
01:24:46,414 --> 01:24:50,886
I've done in the piece so far,

2083
01:24:50,919 --> 01:24:53,188
some of the spontaneous
moments

2084
01:24:53,221 --> 01:24:55,556
that have occurred
couldn't have happened

2085
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:57,826
under other circumstances.

2086
01:24:57,859 --> 01:25:00,428
But it's drama.
You know what I'm saying?

2087
01:25:00,461 --> 01:25:03,632
It's not...
sometimes it's not easy.

2088
01:25:03,665 --> 01:25:05,634
I feel like we're
rehearsing all day long,

2089
01:25:05,667 --> 01:25:07,235
which is, which is I would,

2090
01:25:07,268 --> 01:25:08,670
and in a sense that's
what he's doing,

2091
01:25:08,704 --> 01:25:10,438
you know, he's... he's...

2092
01:25:10,471 --> 01:25:13,808
because he's, he can cut
and he's watching his box

2093
01:25:13,842 --> 01:25:16,745
and he's got that, told my
wife, he's got the six images,

2094
01:25:16,778 --> 01:25:18,246
you know, what's there
and he's saying,

2095
01:25:18,279 --> 01:25:19,715
okay, I could cut...
I could use that,

2096
01:25:19,748 --> 01:25:21,349
then I could cut here,
then I could cut here.

2097
01:25:21,382 --> 01:25:23,084
So in a sense, he's rehearsing

2098
01:25:23,118 --> 01:25:25,153
at the same time that he's...
that he's shooting.

2099
01:25:25,186 --> 01:25:27,388
Francis loves story,
but he doesn't want

2100
01:25:27,422 --> 01:25:28,823
to be confined by it.

2101
01:25:28,857 --> 01:25:30,225
I mean, he loves structure,

2102
01:25:30,258 --> 01:25:32,060
but he needs to be free,
you know? I mean...

2103
01:25:32,093 --> 01:25:35,163
He's got a big dream.
It's a dream.

2104
01:25:35,196 --> 01:25:37,065
He sees it, he feels it,
it's visceral,

2105
01:25:37,098 --> 01:25:40,201
and, and he can voice it,

2106
01:25:40,235 --> 01:25:43,471
but he still, I believe, has
something else up his sleeve.

2107
01:25:43,504 --> 01:25:45,273
[Fishburne] I was so young

2108
01:25:45,306 --> 01:25:47,275
when I started
working with him.

2109
01:25:47,308 --> 01:25:50,311
You know,
my relationship with Francis

2110
01:25:50,344 --> 01:25:52,513
is very much father and son.

2111
01:25:52,546 --> 01:25:53,982
He is my godfather.

2112
01:25:54,348 --> 01:25:55,884
When we were doing
<i>Apocalypse Now,</i>

2113
01:25:55,917 --> 01:25:57,385
I would come onto the set
and I'd be going,

2114
01:25:57,418 --> 01:25:59,888
Francis, you're full
of contradictions.

2115
01:25:59,921 --> 01:26:01,222
What's with all the
contradictions?

2116
01:26:01,256 --> 01:26:03,124
You know, he never denied it.

2117
01:26:03,158 --> 01:26:08,229
He was just like, that's
just... that's just how I am.

2118
01:26:08,263 --> 01:26:09,530
You look at him and you go,

2119
01:26:09,563 --> 01:26:10,999
I don't know how
that's going to work.

2120
01:26:11,032 --> 01:26:12,500
Well, I can tell you,
he doesn't know

2121
01:26:12,533 --> 01:26:14,502
how that's going
to work either,

2122
01:26:14,535 --> 01:26:17,739
but he's brave enough
to risk it.

2123
01:26:17,773 --> 01:26:22,677
Francis' vision was
really about changing,

2124
01:26:22,711 --> 01:26:25,814
not just the way
movies are made,

2125
01:26:25,847 --> 01:26:29,083
but changing the way
that we can communicate.

2126
01:26:29,117 --> 01:26:32,287
You know, the beauty
of movies is,

2127
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,757
is that, I mean,
at their purest,

2128
01:26:35,791 --> 01:26:37,492
they're not verbal.

2129
01:26:38,727 --> 01:26:40,762
[dramatic music playing]

2130
01:27:47,128 --> 01:27:48,462
Cut.

2131
01:27:48,496 --> 01:27:50,498
And where's my little wife?
She's not here.

2132
01:27:50,531 --> 01:27:51,766
[all laughing]

2133
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,968
As you know,
this is the, uh...

2134
01:27:54,002 --> 01:27:55,804
-She's coming.
-Today, actually,

2135
01:27:55,837 --> 01:27:58,739
today is the 60th anniversary
of our marriage.

2136
01:27:58,773 --> 01:28:01,342
[all cheering]

2137
01:28:03,078 --> 01:28:04,745
Whoo!

2138
01:28:04,779 --> 01:28:06,614
I'm notoriously tardy.

2139
01:28:06,647 --> 01:28:08,383
[all laughing]

2140
01:28:08,416 --> 01:28:11,286
[Roman] Eleanor and Francis.

2141
01:28:11,319 --> 01:28:13,754
Dad, can I make a little toast

2142
01:28:13,788 --> 01:28:17,258
or at least welcome
everyone to celebrate?

2143
01:28:18,860 --> 01:28:21,462
[all cheering]

2144
01:28:21,495 --> 01:28:27,468
I have to say I've been on
a great 60-year adventure.

2145
01:28:27,501 --> 01:28:32,206
It began because, uh, I asked
for a job on that first film,

2146
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,243
and he, uh, I was
the assistant

2147
01:28:35,276 --> 01:28:37,412
to the art director
and the art department

2148
01:28:37,445 --> 01:28:40,348
consisted of two people,

2149
01:28:40,381 --> 01:28:42,450
the art director and me.

2150
01:28:42,483 --> 01:28:44,119
[Francis]
How much did I pay you?

2151
01:28:44,152 --> 01:28:46,321
[Eleanor]
$100 for four weeks work.

2152
01:28:46,354 --> 01:28:49,925
[all laughing]

2153
01:28:49,958 --> 01:28:52,427
I've had so many
extraordinary adventures

2154
01:28:52,460 --> 01:28:57,598
in this family of film life.

2155
01:28:57,632 --> 01:28:59,400
You know, it's been
kind of a circus life.

2156
01:28:59,434 --> 01:29:02,470
This is the first time I
haven't stayed on a location,

2157
01:29:02,503 --> 01:29:04,672
because I had some
issues in California,

2158
01:29:04,705 --> 01:29:08,509
but it's just really
a thrill every time

2159
01:29:08,542 --> 01:29:10,645
I come and see what's going on

2160
01:29:10,678 --> 01:29:14,015
and how everyone's rallied
around to do his film.

2161
01:29:14,048 --> 01:29:16,584
So I thank all of you.

2162
01:29:16,617 --> 01:29:18,853
I'm so appreciative
that you're here

2163
01:29:18,887 --> 01:29:20,421
supporting Francis.

2164
01:29:20,455 --> 01:29:24,292
[all cheering]

2165
01:29:31,332 --> 01:29:32,600
[Figgis] As an actor,
you've worked

2166
01:29:32,633 --> 01:29:34,369
with lots of
different directors.

2167
01:29:34,402 --> 01:29:37,238
How would you
characterize Francis

2168
01:29:37,271 --> 01:29:40,441
in relation to the other
experiences you've had?

2169
01:29:40,475 --> 01:29:41,709
Well, I've had
this conversation

2170
01:29:41,742 --> 01:29:43,044
with another director before,

2171
01:29:43,077 --> 01:29:44,512
but Francis really
embodies it more.

2172
01:29:44,545 --> 01:29:46,847
There's the logic of a scene

2173
01:29:46,881 --> 01:29:48,849
when you're playing it
with the text,

2174
01:29:48,883 --> 01:29:51,886
but then there's also
the emotion of a scene,

2175
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,888
which I feel Francis
is more interested in.

2176
01:29:53,922 --> 01:29:57,692
I see that as a theme
in watching his movies

2177
01:29:57,725 --> 01:29:58,960
before we
start working together

2178
01:29:58,994 --> 01:30:00,495
and watching some
of his movies

2179
01:30:00,528 --> 01:30:01,997
as we're working together.

2180
01:30:02,030 --> 01:30:06,267
He's more interested
in what's more alive.

2181
01:30:06,300 --> 01:30:10,205
You know, that to him
is way more interesting.

2182
01:30:10,238 --> 01:30:12,941
And I feel like you have a lot
of people talking about that.

2183
01:30:12,974 --> 01:30:14,542
That's like a thing
that you learn

2184
01:30:14,575 --> 01:30:16,411
in drama school
again to go back.

2185
01:30:16,444 --> 01:30:19,080
That, like, you know...
But rarely do you find people,

2186
01:30:19,113 --> 01:30:21,449
I think, who live up
to that discipline.

2187
01:30:21,482 --> 01:30:23,218
But he said something
the first day

2188
01:30:23,251 --> 01:30:25,353
where I think I was wearing

2189
01:30:25,386 --> 01:30:26,988
like a bandage on my head

2190
01:30:27,022 --> 01:30:29,357
and he was like,
we're not risking enough.

2191
01:30:29,390 --> 01:30:32,493
It wasn't a condemnation
of the actors.

2192
01:30:32,527 --> 01:30:34,395
He said it in a way
that you felt that

2193
01:30:34,429 --> 01:30:36,531
it was for everybody,
including himself,

2194
01:30:36,564 --> 01:30:37,999
or at least that's
how I took it.

2195
01:30:38,033 --> 01:30:39,633
And that for me was
like, oh, that's

2196
01:30:39,667 --> 01:30:41,002
the kind of movie
we're making.

2197
01:30:41,036 --> 01:30:43,571
But he's structured his day,

2198
01:30:43,604 --> 01:30:45,106
and that's why
he's paying for it.

2199
01:30:45,139 --> 01:30:49,544
He's... to make sure
that he can control

2200
01:30:49,577 --> 01:30:51,912
how to give the actor,
to trust his cast,

2201
01:30:51,946 --> 01:30:53,881
and give them total control
to come up with something

2202
01:30:53,914 --> 01:30:55,416
that he hasn't thought of.

2203
01:30:55,450 --> 01:30:59,587
It's an incredible
act of generosity.

2204
01:30:59,620 --> 01:31:01,389
We're all related.
We're all cousins.

2205
01:31:01,422 --> 01:31:04,592
Oh, that's it,
that's the spirit.

2206
01:31:04,625 --> 01:31:06,360
We can have lunch here.

2207
01:31:06,394 --> 01:31:10,531
Okay, Jerry,
what's going on this?

2208
01:31:10,565 --> 01:31:13,501
I don't want to
hurt you, Nash.

2209
01:31:13,534 --> 01:31:15,703
I don't want you to hurt me.

2210
01:31:15,736 --> 01:31:17,005
[Wow]
First ever in the history

2211
01:31:17,038 --> 01:31:18,506
of the <i>Wow Platinum Show,</i>

2212
01:31:18,539 --> 01:31:21,809
Wow Platinum is now arm
wrestling a political relic.

2213
01:31:21,842 --> 01:31:23,744
You know how to grab.
You know how to take the arm.

2214
01:31:23,778 --> 01:31:24,745
Yes, I do.

2215
01:31:24,779 --> 01:31:25,846
I'm not going
to hold back now.

2216
01:31:25,879 --> 01:31:27,282
-That's all right.
-Really?

2217
01:31:27,315 --> 01:31:28,483
Yeah.

2218
01:31:28,516 --> 01:31:30,285
Okay, Jerry, let's...
count us out, Jerry.

2219
01:31:30,318 --> 01:31:33,221
We have to look each other
in the eye all the time.

2220
01:31:33,254 --> 01:31:35,856
[Jerry] One, two, three.

2221
01:31:42,297 --> 01:31:44,132
You fucker.

2222
01:31:46,734 --> 01:31:48,469
Tell me when you want
to end this fiasco.

2223
01:31:48,503 --> 01:31:49,570
Are you serious?

2224
01:31:49,604 --> 01:31:53,541
Oh... I'm not gonna fucking...

2225
01:31:53,574 --> 01:31:56,644
You... can I touch
your bicep as we play?

2226
01:31:56,677 --> 01:31:58,313
You are very strong.

2227
01:31:58,346 --> 01:32:00,148
-Yes, I am.
-All right.

2228
01:32:00,181 --> 01:32:01,282
You know what I'm going to do,

2229
01:32:01,316 --> 01:32:02,283
because it's your show?

2230
01:32:02,317 --> 01:32:03,451
What?

2231
01:32:03,484 --> 01:32:05,320
Don't you fucking let me win.

2232
01:32:05,353 --> 01:32:06,954
Oh, that's what
I was going to say.

2233
01:32:06,987 --> 01:32:08,323
Don't.

2234
01:32:08,356 --> 01:32:10,591
Don't care how
long this takes.

2235
01:32:10,625 --> 01:32:12,493
I think you're
very sentimental

2236
01:32:12,527 --> 01:32:13,761
underneath all this toughness.

2237
01:32:13,794 --> 01:32:15,763
I am not. I have no feelings.

2238
01:32:15,796 --> 01:32:19,067
How would you feel about us
being romantically involved?

2239
01:32:19,100 --> 01:32:21,336
I'm open to it.

2240
01:32:24,105 --> 01:32:25,739
Come on.

2241
01:32:29,344 --> 01:32:31,279
-You're my kind of girl.
-Oh, God.

2242
01:32:33,714 --> 01:32:34,782
[siren chirps]

2243
01:32:36,851 --> 01:32:38,353
Let's get on a loudspeaker.

2244
01:32:38,386 --> 01:32:40,855
Let's announce that there's
a surprise in Atlanta

2245
01:32:40,888 --> 01:32:44,024
that Donald Trump is
having a mini-rally

2246
01:32:44,058 --> 01:32:45,759
-in front of the courthouse.
-Yeah.

2247
01:32:45,793 --> 01:32:48,629
And first come first served.

2248
01:32:48,663 --> 01:32:50,365
I want that kind
of excitement.

2249
01:32:50,398 --> 01:32:52,966
We don't have
permission yet to have

2250
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,902
any vehicles on the park.

2251
01:32:54,935 --> 01:32:56,604
We have a problem
because the truck

2252
01:32:56,637 --> 01:32:58,806
pulling the float is
too heavy, they think.

2253
01:32:58,839 --> 01:33:00,141
The float isn't that heavy.

2254
01:33:00,175 --> 01:33:02,443
-It's just the truck.
-The truck that pulls it.

2255
01:33:02,476 --> 01:33:03,544
Yes, sir.

2256
01:33:03,578 --> 01:33:06,780
What if the float
wasn't pulled

2257
01:33:06,814 --> 01:33:09,217
but was just
put there by hand?

2258
01:33:09,250 --> 01:33:10,751
[man] Again...

2259
01:33:10,784 --> 01:33:12,220
Now, if we did that,
would we need

2260
01:33:12,253 --> 01:33:14,054
the permission to put
the float without the truck?

2261
01:33:14,088 --> 01:33:16,090
[man] We still would,
but I think I might...

2262
01:33:16,124 --> 01:33:18,226
So here's what
I'm proposing is if...

2263
01:33:18,259 --> 01:33:20,361
if I could pull
one in a favor...

2264
01:33:20,395 --> 01:33:22,363
We've added some buttons
on to some of the people

2265
01:33:22,397 --> 01:33:23,631
if you're okay with that.

2266
01:33:23,664 --> 01:33:25,133
[Francis] Oh, it's great.

2267
01:33:25,166 --> 01:33:26,767
[man] You know, like
campaign buttons and stuff.

2268
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,670
Yeah, make it as real
as you can for when...

2269
01:33:29,704 --> 01:33:31,004
I just wanted to make
sure you're aware of it.

2270
01:33:31,038 --> 01:33:32,607
-That's all.
-Oh, good.

2271
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:35,710
Yeah, let's make this a real
big event when the whole...

2272
01:33:35,743 --> 01:33:37,778
[woman] All right, let's start
sweeping, everybody.

2273
01:33:37,811 --> 01:33:40,047
I would like
two motorcycle cops

2274
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,082
come up and one
of them is the actor

2275
01:33:42,116 --> 01:33:45,253
who just tells him
from a perch...

2276
01:33:45,286 --> 01:33:46,421
You know, says, by the way,

2277
01:33:46,454 --> 01:33:50,358
sorry, but this has
been booked and...

2278
01:33:53,428 --> 01:33:54,995
[chanting]
Power to the people!

2279
01:33:55,028 --> 01:33:57,531
-Power to the people!
-Power to the people!

2280
01:33:57,565 --> 01:33:59,066
Power to the people!

2281
01:33:59,099 --> 01:34:01,902
-Power to the people!
-Power to the people!

2282
01:34:01,936 --> 01:34:03,404
Power to the people!

2283
01:34:03,438 --> 01:34:05,906
-Power to the people!
-Power to the people!

2284
01:34:05,940 --> 01:34:07,275
Power to the people!

2285
01:34:07,308 --> 01:34:10,811
[shouting, cheering]

2286
01:34:23,591 --> 01:34:27,728
[Figgis] We're approaching
the end of the shoot.

2287
01:34:27,762 --> 01:34:30,864
For me, it's been
a unique experience,

2288
01:34:30,898 --> 01:34:34,302
and I've really loved being
a member of the crew.

2289
01:34:35,569 --> 01:34:37,571
And I made friends.

2290
01:34:37,605 --> 01:34:38,773
Something you don't
normally do

2291
01:34:38,806 --> 01:34:40,308
when you're a director.

2292
01:34:42,042 --> 01:34:43,411
I got to know Francis.

2293
01:34:46,180 --> 01:34:48,283
But at breakfast,
people are already

2294
01:34:48,316 --> 01:34:50,285
talking about their next job.

2295
01:34:50,318 --> 01:34:52,453
It's always a sort of...

2296
01:34:52,487 --> 01:34:55,356
kind of a sad moment on
the film, but inevitable.

2297
01:34:57,525 --> 01:35:02,162
The process has been
intense, exhausting,

2298
01:35:02,196 --> 01:35:03,897
and people are very tired.

2299
01:35:06,301 --> 01:35:08,869
Francis...

2300
01:35:08,902 --> 01:35:12,740
I just don't know where
he gets his energy from.

2301
01:35:12,773 --> 01:35:15,776
I have inherited
a billion dollars here...

2302
01:35:15,810 --> 01:35:18,045
that's what I cashed...

2303
01:35:18,078 --> 01:35:19,814
Julie?

2304
01:35:19,847 --> 01:35:23,451
I thought I asked you not to
ride in police cars anymore.

2305
01:35:23,484 --> 01:35:24,652
Now that last scene...

2306
01:35:24,685 --> 01:35:25,853
Well, we didn't shoot
the last scene.

2307
01:35:25,886 --> 01:35:27,855
I know, but I tell
him to take him

2308
01:35:27,888 --> 01:35:29,457
not in my here, but over here.

2309
01:35:29,490 --> 01:35:30,791
Take him there.

2310
01:35:30,825 --> 01:35:31,992
-We'll try it that way.
-Yeah.

2311
01:35:32,026 --> 01:35:34,127
Okay, no you can
be able to sit.

2312
01:35:34,161 --> 01:35:35,429
You don't have to sit into it.

2313
01:35:35,463 --> 01:35:37,465
You can already
be sitting here.

2314
01:35:37,498 --> 01:35:38,932
Action.

2315
01:35:40,133 --> 01:35:41,168
Have a seat.

2316
01:35:45,973 --> 01:35:49,877
Clodio is a close friend
of your daughter, Julia.

2317
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:52,246
So I wanted to come to you
first because, you know,

2318
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:53,414
he, he faked that...

2319
01:35:53,447 --> 01:35:55,483
Got eye-line problems here.

2320
01:36:01,622 --> 01:36:05,192
Frank, uh...

2321
01:36:05,225 --> 01:36:07,227
I'm aware
that this kid, Clodio,

2322
01:36:07,261 --> 01:36:10,731
is a close friend of
your daughter, Julia.

2323
01:36:10,765 --> 01:36:12,132
Hmm?

2324
01:36:12,165 --> 01:36:14,668
There he goes again.
He can't...

2325
01:36:14,702 --> 01:36:17,170
[Francis] They're walking
around. Is that Trevor?

2326
01:36:17,204 --> 01:36:19,707
Who's in the red sweater?

2327
01:36:19,740 --> 01:36:22,810
Just stop. Everyone sit down
and don't do anything.

2328
01:36:22,843 --> 01:36:24,945
[Giancarlo] You know,
I grew up practicing this:

2329
01:36:24,978 --> 01:36:27,915
quiet silence, but because
we haven't practiced it

2330
01:36:27,948 --> 01:36:29,750
in all these weeks,
we're not used to doing it.

2331
01:36:29,784 --> 01:36:32,119
But this is what
we're here for.

2332
01:36:32,152 --> 01:36:35,523
And the most important thing
is what's happening right now

2333
01:36:35,556 --> 01:36:38,025
between this group of
people right here.

2334
01:36:38,058 --> 01:36:40,060
So I know we haven't
practiced it,

2335
01:36:40,094 --> 01:36:42,029
but now let's start
to practice it.

2336
01:36:42,062 --> 01:36:44,965
Because once we get it, we're
done and we're out of here.

2337
01:36:47,368 --> 01:36:48,702
Frank...

2338
01:36:50,170 --> 01:36:52,473
[Figgis] It was an immense
privilege to watch you acting

2339
01:36:52,506 --> 01:36:55,543
today as a member of the crew,
actually, you know.

2340
01:36:55,576 --> 01:36:57,345
Oh, well, thank you.

2341
01:36:57,378 --> 01:37:00,147
I mean, it's not...
I'm not aware of any of that.

2342
01:37:00,180 --> 01:37:02,950
All I'm thinking of is fuck,
I'm fucking this thing up.

2343
01:37:02,983 --> 01:37:03,984
That's always what
you're thinking

2344
01:37:04,017 --> 01:37:05,586
is what you got wrong.

2345
01:37:05,620 --> 01:37:09,424
And at the same time,
I want to be aware of,

2346
01:37:09,457 --> 01:37:11,626
of, of what I'm feeling
about the crew.

2347
01:37:11,659 --> 01:37:13,127
That's always where I am.

2348
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:17,365
I'm always... the crew is
intrinsic in my working.

2349
01:37:17,398 --> 01:37:20,701
I think I learned
that from Brando,

2350
01:37:20,734 --> 01:37:24,004
who was a hero of me and Duval

2351
01:37:24,037 --> 01:37:25,840
and Hackman back in our time,

2352
01:37:25,873 --> 01:37:29,477
because Brando said once that

2353
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:32,880
he loves to talk
to members of the crew.

2354
01:37:32,913 --> 01:37:35,516
And he said that once,
he says, you can even roll.

2355
01:37:35,549 --> 01:37:37,985
And they start rolling
and say action.

2356
01:37:38,018 --> 01:37:41,254
And he tries to see that
the way he is talking

2357
01:37:41,288 --> 01:37:43,190
to this person from the crew,

2358
01:37:43,223 --> 01:37:45,159
can he keep that same reality

2359
01:37:45,192 --> 01:37:47,628
and switch it straight
to the so-called character

2360
01:37:47,662 --> 01:37:49,262
that he's talking to.

2361
01:37:49,296 --> 01:37:51,331
Otherwise,
he knows he's acting,

2362
01:37:51,365 --> 01:37:52,900
which is what he
doesn't want to do.

2363
01:37:52,933 --> 01:37:55,636
And I thought that was...
that was really wonderful.

2364
01:37:55,670 --> 01:37:59,239
The joke I always make is that
if Brando were in a scene

2365
01:37:59,272 --> 01:38:02,410
and herd a buffalo ran
through the... the room,

2366
01:38:02,443 --> 01:38:05,379
he wouldn't say, holy shit,
I'd better get out of here.

2367
01:38:05,413 --> 01:38:07,181
He'd say, oh,
look at the buffalo.

2368
01:38:07,214 --> 01:38:10,050
That's what's
extraordinary about film

2369
01:38:10,083 --> 01:38:13,621
is that it's the only medium
that I know of

2370
01:38:13,654 --> 01:38:16,123
that catches what
we do in life.

2371
01:38:16,156 --> 01:38:18,826
We're not listening
to what people say.

2372
01:38:18,859 --> 01:38:21,629
We're looking at
what they don't say

2373
01:38:21,662 --> 01:38:23,096
and what they reveal.

2374
01:38:24,732 --> 01:38:26,800
[Figgis] Okay.

2375
01:38:26,834 --> 01:38:28,602
The last time I saw you,

2376
01:38:28,636 --> 01:38:31,439
I think you were about to pull
an arrow out of your ass.

2377
01:38:31,472 --> 01:38:32,773
Oh boy.

2378
01:38:32,806 --> 01:38:34,608
[Figgis] And then get
Mussolini'd, right?

2379
01:38:34,642 --> 01:38:36,577
Dude, Mussolini'd is right.

2380
01:38:36,610 --> 01:38:38,612
We're off the street and
they're saying he owns a bank.

2381
01:38:38,646 --> 01:38:40,981
-He's a banker?
-He's a banker.

2382
01:38:41,015 --> 01:38:42,950
-Yeah, that's all you, right?
-That's all that, that, yeah.

2383
01:38:42,983 --> 01:38:44,685
Yeah, but they've always
known that I'm a banker.

2384
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:46,186
So I don't know what
this discovery is.

2385
01:38:46,220 --> 01:38:47,588
They know you're
the banker's grandson.

2386
01:38:47,621 --> 01:38:49,990
That you have been
a rich kid, but also...

2387
01:38:50,024 --> 01:38:52,059
Yeah, there's a million
reasons. You own the bank.

2388
01:38:52,092 --> 01:38:53,794
Everyone knows,
you're on television.

2389
01:38:53,827 --> 01:38:55,629
There's a whole movie
about how you own the bank.

2390
01:38:55,663 --> 01:38:58,866
So the fact that the guy
says you own the bank,

2391
01:38:58,899 --> 01:39:01,301
someone told him that
that's who you really are,

2392
01:39:01,334 --> 01:39:04,371
that you're a traitor.

2393
01:39:04,404 --> 01:39:05,806
I'm not going to
talk about it.

2394
01:39:05,839 --> 01:39:07,641
I tell you, I'm going
to go and wait

2395
01:39:07,675 --> 01:39:09,109
until someone tells me
what to do

2396
01:39:09,142 --> 01:39:11,178
because I am absolutely ex...

2397
01:39:11,211 --> 01:39:14,114
All day long, I just
worked on stuff on this movie.

2398
01:39:14,147 --> 01:39:17,585
And I don't want to
have the typical games.

2399
01:39:17,618 --> 01:39:19,453
You hear the crowd
is coming in here.

2400
01:39:19,487 --> 01:39:21,455
He's backed up.
They know he's a fake.

2401
01:39:21,489 --> 01:39:23,057
He's backing up.

2402
01:39:23,090 --> 01:39:25,560
One guy, he shoots.
Then he's out of bullets.

2403
01:39:25,593 --> 01:39:27,327
He throws the thing at him.

2404
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,163
And then they're
going to come after you.

2405
01:39:30,197 --> 01:39:31,766
What is your question?

2406
01:39:31,799 --> 01:39:34,702
I don't know why previously
they were with me

2407
01:39:34,735 --> 01:39:36,003
and now they're not with me.

2408
01:39:36,036 --> 01:39:38,138
Because in the course
of the thing

2409
01:39:38,171 --> 01:39:39,873
when they were
with you previously,

2410
01:39:39,907 --> 01:39:42,342
the reality of
who you really are

2411
01:39:42,375 --> 01:39:45,345
and how you basically
are a privileged guy

2412
01:39:45,378 --> 01:39:48,315
who's taken over,
all has become disseminated.

2413
01:39:48,348 --> 01:39:50,317
Okay.

2414
01:39:50,350 --> 01:39:51,418
That's it.

2415
01:39:53,186 --> 01:39:55,823
If you don't need me tonight,
I'm happy to go home.

2416
01:39:55,856 --> 01:39:57,190
At this point,
our communication

2417
01:39:57,224 --> 01:39:58,793
has become so blunt.

2418
01:39:58,826 --> 01:40:01,695
There's no more like
cutesy pie diplomacy.

2419
01:40:01,729 --> 01:40:03,463
It's just like we're
at the end of our rope.

2420
01:40:03,497 --> 01:40:04,632
He's exhausted.

2421
01:40:04,665 --> 01:40:06,133
That's my weapon.

2422
01:40:06,166 --> 01:40:07,768
If they drive me crazy,
I'm just going to leave

2423
01:40:07,802 --> 01:40:09,169
and watch from the Silverfish.

2424
01:40:09,202 --> 01:40:11,005
It's my polio mentality.

2425
01:40:11,038 --> 01:40:13,608
That's me watching from
the iron lung or something.

2426
01:40:13,641 --> 01:40:16,677
I have to insulate myself
because it's not reasonable.

2427
01:40:16,710 --> 01:40:19,212
He drove me nuts,
but his performance is great.

2428
01:40:19,246 --> 01:40:20,213
[Figgis] Yeah.

2429
01:40:20,247 --> 01:40:21,549
And I'll say it's great.

2430
01:40:21,582 --> 01:40:23,150
But I mean, I was
in the Silverfish,

2431
01:40:23,183 --> 01:40:24,217
saying I'm not even
going to deal with them.

2432
01:40:29,222 --> 01:40:32,760
He says, "You know, I have
one regret on this show."

2433
01:40:32,793 --> 01:40:34,562
I said, "Okay,
what's the one regret?"

2434
01:40:34,595 --> 01:40:37,264
He goes, "You. You have
been the biggest pain

2435
01:40:37,297 --> 01:40:39,166
in my fucking ass,"
the only time he cursed.

2436
01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:40,934
"You've been the biggest
pain in my fucking ass

2437
01:40:40,968 --> 01:40:42,736
of any actor
I've ever worked with."

2438
01:40:42,770 --> 01:40:44,805
I said, "Really, really?
Any actor?"

2439
01:40:44,839 --> 01:40:46,641
"Did I show up fucking
700 pounds overweight

2440
01:40:46,674 --> 01:40:47,642
in the jungle?"

2441
01:40:47,675 --> 01:40:48,909
"Really, any actor?"

2442
01:40:48,942 --> 01:40:50,578
"Did I quit
ten days before we wrap?"

2443
01:40:50,611 --> 01:40:52,913
"Really, any actor?
You're just being dramatic."

2444
01:40:52,946 --> 01:40:54,381
He's like, "I'm not
being dramatic. Get out."

2445
01:40:54,414 --> 01:40:55,783
Do what you want.

2446
01:40:55,816 --> 01:40:57,685
I wake up in the morning,
there's this long email.

2447
01:40:57,718 --> 01:40:59,219
I'll read it to you.

2448
01:40:59,252 --> 01:41:02,723
"Of course, I feel badly about
my reaction last night."

2449
01:41:02,756 --> 01:41:05,693
"Many crises hit the fan
all at the same time."

2450
01:41:05,726 --> 01:41:07,828
"My default reaction
was to quit."

2451
01:41:07,862 --> 01:41:09,997
"On <i>The Conversation,</i>
you must know,

2452
01:41:10,030 --> 01:41:12,099
I quit ten days
before finishing

2453
01:41:12,132 --> 01:41:13,634
for similar reasons."

2454
01:41:13,668 --> 01:41:16,236
"Just know I didn't
quit the shoot this time."

2455
01:41:16,269 --> 01:41:18,939
"Nonetheless, as usual,
you've done good work

2456
01:41:18,972 --> 01:41:20,574
and I thank you for that."

2457
01:41:20,608 --> 01:41:23,811
"However, we remain two
totally different viewpoints,

2458
01:41:23,844 --> 01:41:25,445
which of course
is how people tend to be."

2459
01:41:25,478 --> 01:41:26,614
"I love you."

2460
01:41:26,647 --> 01:41:28,683
[dramatic music playing]

2461
01:41:43,030 --> 01:41:46,701
[Cesar]
Man. What do we know of him?

2462
01:41:47,702 --> 01:41:53,273
His gods: liberty, love,

2463
01:41:53,306 --> 01:41:57,244
mind, death, destiny.

2464
01:42:00,047 --> 01:42:02,515
We're in need of a great
debate about the future.

2465
01:42:04,317 --> 01:42:06,086
We want every person
in the world

2466
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,521
to take part in that debate.

2467
01:42:10,523 --> 01:42:16,363
But first, we have to
tear down conventions.

2468
01:42:20,500 --> 01:42:22,369
Tear down an
antiquated mindset.

2469
01:42:25,740 --> 01:42:27,607
Tear down our inhibitions.

2470
01:42:30,844 --> 01:42:36,116
And tear down debt!

2471
01:42:36,150 --> 01:42:38,185
Tear down the world
of ready-made slums

2472
01:42:38,218 --> 01:42:40,487
by the men who run
the world shove you into.

2473
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,489
You were born with the option

2474
01:42:42,522 --> 01:42:45,926
to be what you want
to be and must.

2475
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,495
Let it not be said
that we reduced ourselves

2476
01:42:48,528 --> 01:42:51,265
to be brutes

2477
01:42:51,298 --> 01:42:53,200
and mindless beasts of burden.

2478
01:42:54,769 --> 01:42:56,670
The human being
shall once again

2479
01:42:56,704 --> 01:42:59,039
be called a great miracle

2480
01:42:59,072 --> 01:43:01,341
and a living creature
for all to admire.

2481
01:43:02,743 --> 01:43:04,244
[Francis] Bravo, yeah.

2482
01:43:04,278 --> 01:43:06,814
The human being is that.
God damn it.

2483
01:43:07,881 --> 01:43:09,917
[dramatic music playing]

2484
01:43:27,634 --> 01:43:32,139
[muted dialogue]

2485
01:43:49,589 --> 01:43:52,359
You know, I had no idea
what was going to happen.

2486
01:43:52,392 --> 01:43:55,529
I was happy with
the movie I had made.

2487
01:43:55,562 --> 01:43:59,466
My life is extended time.
I'm 85.

2488
01:43:59,499 --> 01:44:03,203
You know, a man,
if he makes it to 85,

2489
01:44:03,237 --> 01:44:05,572
probably is going to make
it to 90-something.

2490
01:44:05,605 --> 01:44:08,375
So, I have no idea.

2491
01:44:08,408 --> 01:44:11,578
But whatever it is,
I'm going to be having fun

2492
01:44:11,611 --> 01:44:13,547
playing with theater
and movies

2493
01:44:13,580 --> 01:44:15,749
and the combination
of the two.

2494
01:44:15,783 --> 01:44:16,884
I like that.

2495
01:44:16,917 --> 01:44:18,853
[applause]

2496
01:45:31,992 --> 01:45:35,129
[jazzy music playing]