1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,382 --> 00:00:06,454 ♪♪ 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:15,463 --> 00:00:23,782 ♪♪ 5 00:00:23,885 --> 00:00:31,721 ♪♪ 6 00:00:31,824 --> 00:00:40,281 ♪♪ 7 00:00:40,385 --> 00:00:47,564 ♪♪ 8 00:00:47,668 --> 00:00:51,154 [Evil laughter] 9 00:00:51,258 --> 00:00:53,122 -Thrilling. -Substantial. 10 00:00:53,225 --> 00:00:54,951 -Surprising. -Rewarding. 11 00:00:55,055 --> 00:00:56,159 -Original. -Fun. 12 00:00:56,263 --> 00:00:57,850 -Fortunate. -Amazing. 13 00:00:57,954 --> 00:01:01,751 -Fantastical. -F-U-N, fun. 14 00:01:01,854 --> 00:01:03,891 -Unexpected. -Unique. 15 00:01:03,994 --> 00:01:06,687 -Um, bonkers. -Titillating. 16 00:01:06,790 --> 00:01:08,137 -Wow. -Joyful. 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,416 -Deadly. -Terror. 18 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:14,591 -As an artist, as a creative person, a filmmaker, 19 00:01:14,695 --> 00:01:19,562 I'm interested in this intersection 20 00:01:19,664 --> 00:01:24,256 between horror and humor, and I think Chucky 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,190 has turned out to be an ideal mouthpiece for that. 22 00:01:27,294 --> 00:01:28,674 -Chucky is a monster. 23 00:01:28,777 --> 00:01:32,229 All horror is based on being preyed upon 24 00:01:32,333 --> 00:01:35,473 by something with which you cannot negotiate. 25 00:01:35,578 --> 00:01:37,649 Chucky had to be that first and foremost. 26 00:01:37,752 --> 00:01:39,375 -You're dealing with really high stakes. 27 00:01:39,478 --> 00:01:40,789 You're dealing with life and death, 28 00:01:40,893 --> 00:01:42,274 and people are being killed, 29 00:01:42,378 --> 00:01:43,448 and this doll is causing all this terror. 30 00:01:43,551 --> 00:01:46,589 -The idea of an animated doll, 31 00:01:46,692 --> 00:01:49,799 a sentient doll that can keep you company, 32 00:01:49,902 --> 00:01:51,594 is a very strong idea. 33 00:01:51,697 --> 00:01:54,527 I'm sure it goes back through every culture into the cave. 34 00:01:54,631 --> 00:01:56,495 -And there's something so delicious 35 00:01:56,598 --> 00:02:00,154 about the -- about the concept of your plaything coming alive, 36 00:02:00,258 --> 00:02:01,949 especially if it's a murderous doll. 37 00:02:02,052 --> 00:02:06,471 -He makes real the fantasy that we all have when we're children, 38 00:02:06,574 --> 00:02:09,094 that the things that we play with will come alive. 39 00:02:09,198 --> 00:02:11,579 -We tapped into an inherent fear of people 40 00:02:11,683 --> 00:02:14,203 for a doll coming to life and trying to kill you. 41 00:02:14,306 --> 00:02:15,928 -In some way that's very captivating. 42 00:02:16,032 --> 00:02:20,450 So Chucky is always the bad guy, but we -- we also relate to him. 43 00:02:20,554 --> 00:02:25,075 And he secretly acting out our mischievous, 44 00:02:25,179 --> 00:02:28,596 darkest, mischievous bad boyness. 45 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:33,429 -He has that sassy, you know, fuck you. 46 00:02:33,531 --> 00:02:36,535 -The fact that Chucky is such a full-fledged personality 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,020 who has a girlfriend and a child, 48 00:02:39,124 --> 00:02:41,161 and none of that domesticates him. 49 00:02:41,264 --> 00:02:43,370 He still goes on to wanting to turn people 50 00:02:43,473 --> 00:02:45,579 into meat, um, is scary. 51 00:02:45,682 --> 00:02:48,444 -The whole idea was to make it so lovable and so cute 52 00:02:48,547 --> 00:02:50,031 with the dimples and all that stuff. 53 00:02:50,135 --> 00:02:51,274 -I'm your friend to the end. 54 00:02:51,378 --> 00:02:53,242 Hidey, hidey, ho, ha, ha, ha. 55 00:02:53,345 --> 00:02:54,829 -Hey, wanna play? 56 00:02:54,933 --> 00:02:56,762 -No one would ever think it would be a horrible thing. 57 00:02:56,866 --> 00:03:00,870 -You know, like I'm just all Mayberry, but deep down, 58 00:03:00,973 --> 00:03:02,285 I'm, you know, Dexter. 59 00:03:02,389 --> 00:03:05,323 -No, it's just a momentary mix up. 60 00:03:05,426 --> 00:03:08,533 -Chucky still scares me, to be honest. 61 00:03:08,636 --> 00:03:11,121 -You're never going to forget being scared 62 00:03:11,225 --> 00:03:13,193 by this innocent little thing. 63 00:03:13,296 --> 00:03:15,091 -People have nightmares about Chucky. 64 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:16,782 [Thunder rumbles] 65 00:03:16,886 --> 00:03:20,545 -You know, we've all got to see him evolve, 66 00:03:20,648 --> 00:03:24,411 go through every type of circumstance and situation 67 00:03:24,514 --> 00:03:25,688 life can throw at you. 68 00:03:25,791 --> 00:03:28,103 -People around the world love this, 69 00:03:28,208 --> 00:03:29,761 this little iconic bastard. 70 00:03:29,864 --> 00:03:32,764 -He is considered an iconic horror star. 71 00:03:32,867 --> 00:03:35,422 -I wasn't aware of the impact of the Chucky films 72 00:03:35,525 --> 00:03:38,390 and the fan base, but when I started to travel, 73 00:03:38,494 --> 00:03:40,805 I began to realize that it was this universal thing. 74 00:03:40,910 --> 00:03:43,499 -There's a lot of doll movies, a doll monster movies, 75 00:03:43,602 --> 00:03:45,328 but Chucky is the best one. 76 00:03:45,432 --> 00:03:47,054 Chucky is the king of them all. 77 00:03:47,156 --> 00:03:55,027 -It's because Chucky is part of our primal fear of being prey, 78 00:03:55,131 --> 00:03:56,374 which we all have. 79 00:03:56,477 --> 00:03:58,203 [Echoing] It's universal. 80 00:03:58,307 --> 00:04:00,999 [Thunder rumbling] 81 00:04:01,102 --> 00:04:07,488 ♪♪ 82 00:04:07,592 --> 00:04:10,042 [Evil laughter, glass shatters] 83 00:04:10,146 --> 00:04:12,735 ♪♪ 84 00:04:12,838 --> 00:04:15,151 -[Screaming] 85 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:17,911 ♪♪ 86 00:04:18,016 --> 00:04:20,225 [Electricity crackling] 87 00:04:20,329 --> 00:04:23,849 ♪♪ 88 00:04:23,953 --> 00:04:26,783 [Thunder rumbles] 89 00:04:26,887 --> 00:04:27,991 [Woman screams] 90 00:04:28,095 --> 00:04:34,791 ♪♪ 91 00:04:34,895 --> 00:04:36,310 [Explosion] 92 00:04:36,414 --> 00:04:38,795 [Keyboard clacking] 93 00:04:38,899 --> 00:04:41,384 [Evil laughter] 94 00:04:41,488 --> 00:04:45,250 [Clippers whirring] 95 00:04:45,354 --> 00:04:47,804 [Evil laughter] 96 00:04:47,908 --> 00:04:50,255 -[Screaming] 97 00:04:50,359 --> 00:04:58,470 ♪♪ 98 00:04:58,574 --> 00:05:01,956 [Thunder rumbles] 99 00:05:02,060 --> 00:05:07,514 -My mother always taught me love would set me free. 100 00:05:07,617 --> 00:05:12,415 ♪♪ 101 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:14,383 -Am I going to be a killer? 102 00:05:14,486 --> 00:05:17,351 -[Evil laughter] 103 00:05:17,455 --> 00:05:20,216 [Thunder rumbling] 104 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,218 ♪♪ 105 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:24,082 -[Screaming] 106 00:05:24,185 --> 00:05:29,432 ♪♪ 107 00:05:29,536 --> 00:05:32,124 [Thunder rumbling] 108 00:05:32,228 --> 00:05:39,546 ♪♪ 109 00:05:39,649 --> 00:05:48,175 ♪♪ 110 00:05:48,278 --> 00:05:50,832 ♪♪ 111 00:05:50,936 --> 00:05:52,938 [Sizzling] 112 00:05:53,042 --> 00:06:01,361 ♪♪ 113 00:06:01,464 --> 00:06:07,712 ♪♪ 114 00:06:07,815 --> 00:06:10,197 -[Evil laughter] 115 00:06:10,300 --> 00:06:15,478 ♪♪ 116 00:06:15,582 --> 00:06:18,032 [Film projector spinning] 117 00:06:18,136 --> 00:06:21,381 ♪♪ 118 00:06:21,484 --> 00:06:25,557 [Evil laughter] 119 00:06:25,661 --> 00:06:27,145 -By the mid 1980s, 120 00:06:27,248 --> 00:06:30,562 the horror genre had successfully attacked moviegoers 121 00:06:30,666 --> 00:06:33,876 with monsters and villains of every kind. 122 00:06:33,979 --> 00:06:36,223 Sensing an opportunity for something different 123 00:06:36,326 --> 00:06:37,776 to make audiences scream, 124 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,744 a young writer crafted a screenplay 125 00:06:39,847 --> 00:06:43,057 with a slightly different bent, a fable-like tale 126 00:06:43,161 --> 00:06:44,680 about a mother, her son, 127 00:06:44,783 --> 00:06:46,820 and the killer doll that comes between them. 128 00:06:46,923 --> 00:06:48,718 It would prove to a new generation 129 00:06:48,822 --> 00:06:51,618 that big terror can come in small packages. 130 00:06:51,721 --> 00:06:54,621 -My original impetus for this idea, 131 00:06:54,724 --> 00:06:56,623 it goes back to my childhood. 132 00:06:56,726 --> 00:06:58,694 My dad worked in advertising, 133 00:06:58,797 --> 00:07:02,560 so I became very aware at a very young age 134 00:07:02,663 --> 00:07:06,633 how cynical the advertising business is. 135 00:07:06,736 --> 00:07:10,740 I wanted to write something, a dark satire about 136 00:07:10,844 --> 00:07:15,435 how marketing and advertising affected children. 137 00:07:15,538 --> 00:07:17,851 -More games, more toys. -Oh, boy. 138 00:07:17,954 --> 00:07:19,853 -♪ I want to be a Toys "R" Us kid ♪ 139 00:07:19,956 --> 00:07:23,926 -And this was in the '80s when I was in school at UCLA 140 00:07:24,029 --> 00:07:27,619 and Cabbage Patch Dolls were hugely popular. 141 00:07:27,723 --> 00:07:31,071 But the notion that these dolls, these goofy dolls, 142 00:07:31,174 --> 00:07:35,869 would cause literal riots in the stores when they would sell out. 143 00:07:35,972 --> 00:07:37,387 [People shouting] 144 00:07:37,491 --> 00:07:40,839 -A full-grown woman taking a doll out of a child's hand? 145 00:07:40,943 --> 00:07:43,566 -Being a life-long horror fan, 146 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:47,536 I, of course, had seen Talky Tina and "Magic" 147 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:50,539 and "Dead of Night" and "Trilogy of Terror," 148 00:07:50,642 --> 00:07:53,162 and I realized that using the killer doll trope 149 00:07:53,265 --> 00:07:57,166 would be a great way into talking about the dark side 150 00:07:57,269 --> 00:07:58,685 of marketing to children. 151 00:07:58,788 --> 00:08:01,860 -Don wanted Madison Avenue to be the bad guy here. 152 00:08:01,964 --> 00:08:04,794 Madison Avenue meaning ad agencies. 153 00:08:04,898 --> 00:08:07,348 -When I was a kid, I remember my sisters had, 154 00:08:07,452 --> 00:08:10,593 you know, dolls that would pee or they would cry or whatever. 155 00:08:10,697 --> 00:08:12,353 And I just thought, well, for a horror movie, 156 00:08:12,457 --> 00:08:13,803 what about a doll that bleeds 157 00:08:13,907 --> 00:08:16,047 and you'd have to go out and buy buddy Band-Aids? 158 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:19,326 It was a dark, twisted marketing conceit 159 00:08:19,429 --> 00:08:21,293 to get kids to buy more shit. 160 00:08:21,397 --> 00:08:22,778 -Each sold separately. 161 00:08:22,881 --> 00:08:25,470 -Each sold separately. -Each sold separately. 162 00:08:25,574 --> 00:08:26,954 -In my original script, 163 00:08:27,058 --> 00:08:30,889 the doll didn't come to life in the same way. 164 00:08:30,993 --> 00:08:36,756 In my script, the doll was not possessed by a serial killer. 165 00:08:36,861 --> 00:08:39,553 The doll was sort of a manifestation 166 00:08:39,657 --> 00:08:42,970 of Andy's unconscious, his ID, his anger, 167 00:08:43,073 --> 00:08:45,663 and I thought it was very interesting, 168 00:08:45,766 --> 00:08:49,494 the notion that the doll, Buddy, would go 169 00:08:49,598 --> 00:08:51,876 after the kids perceived enemies. 170 00:08:51,979 --> 00:08:55,742 -Trying to figure out who's responsible for these murders, 171 00:08:55,845 --> 00:08:59,021 never thinking for a moment that it could even be possible 172 00:08:59,124 --> 00:09:02,231 that it's a doll, which is Don's original concept. 173 00:09:02,334 --> 00:09:05,683 -The original title was "Batteries Not Included," 174 00:09:05,786 --> 00:09:08,720 and around that time it was announced 175 00:09:08,824 --> 00:09:11,481 that Spielberg's production of "Batteries Not Included" 176 00:09:11,585 --> 00:09:12,828 was in the works. 177 00:09:12,931 --> 00:09:15,037 So we knew we needed another title. 178 00:09:15,140 --> 00:09:20,629 I wrote that script, and it landed on David Kirschner's desk 179 00:09:20,732 --> 00:09:22,423 in the summer of '85. 180 00:09:22,527 --> 00:09:23,804 -The other projects that I had worked 181 00:09:23,908 --> 00:09:26,013 on were completely child friendly. 182 00:09:26,117 --> 00:09:28,809 "Rose Petal Place," "An American Tail." 183 00:09:28,913 --> 00:09:31,398 I really wanted to prove that I could do something scary. 184 00:09:31,501 --> 00:09:33,020 So my wife and I were in London 185 00:09:33,124 --> 00:09:36,230 and I came upon a book called "The Dollhouse Murders." 186 00:09:36,334 --> 00:09:40,372 And then I remember seeing Talking Tina on "Twilight Zone." 187 00:09:40,476 --> 00:09:42,064 -My name is Talky Tina, 188 00:09:42,167 --> 00:09:44,929 and I think I could even hate you. 189 00:09:45,032 --> 00:09:48,484 -The idea of a doll coming to life was something that I -- 190 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:51,556 I really wanted to play with. -You know, I think my agent 191 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:54,386 at the time sent the script out. 192 00:09:54,490 --> 00:09:55,974 I don't think I ever knew, like, 193 00:09:56,078 --> 00:09:59,737 who did it go to and who passed or anything like that. 194 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,601 -And I said, well, I'd like to read it. 195 00:10:01,704 --> 00:10:04,017 And there was so much that was so good. 196 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,053 -David Kirschner was a great collaborator. 197 00:10:06,157 --> 00:10:10,195 He was very inventive and a great storyteller. 198 00:10:10,299 --> 00:10:13,026 He had experience in other areas of film, 199 00:10:13,129 --> 00:10:15,235 but this was a new experience for him as well. 200 00:10:15,338 --> 00:10:18,618 -I was intrigued, I thought the writing was great. 201 00:10:18,721 --> 00:10:20,378 All these studios had passed on it, 202 00:10:20,481 --> 00:10:25,176 but back then I think I was just so naive that I liked it. 203 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:27,730 So why wouldn't other people like it? 204 00:10:27,834 --> 00:10:30,906 -I thought it was creepy and exciting. 205 00:10:31,009 --> 00:10:33,218 -And David was actually the first meeting 206 00:10:33,322 --> 00:10:37,671 I ever had with any Hollywood connection at all. 207 00:10:37,775 --> 00:10:39,846 -Yeah, I mean, John was incredibly young. 208 00:10:39,949 --> 00:10:42,089 Even then, I mean, he had a vision. 209 00:10:42,193 --> 00:10:44,126 He was excited that there was a potential, 210 00:10:44,229 --> 00:10:46,266 especially after all the studios passed on it. 211 00:10:46,369 --> 00:10:49,752 When I first met with Don, he brought a My Buddy doll 212 00:10:49,856 --> 00:10:52,203 that was popular in the '80s, 213 00:10:52,306 --> 00:10:53,480 -♪ My buddy, my buddy 214 00:10:53,583 --> 00:10:55,724 ♪ My buddy and me 215 00:10:55,827 --> 00:10:57,208 -He was a cute little fellow. 216 00:10:57,311 --> 00:11:00,521 And in Don's script, Don describes Chucky... 217 00:11:00,625 --> 00:11:03,870 -Red hair, blue eyes, freckles, 218 00:11:03,973 --> 00:11:06,596 stripy shirt, red shoes. 219 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:09,772 All of that was in my script. 220 00:11:09,876 --> 00:11:11,567 -So I took that notion, 221 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:15,053 and then I drew the nightmare version of what he looks like 222 00:11:15,157 --> 00:11:17,642 when he's not that sweet toy. =And I think 223 00:11:17,746 --> 00:11:20,058 that was a crucial step. 224 00:11:20,162 --> 00:11:23,234 -What happened was I did not go out with Don's script. 225 00:11:23,337 --> 00:11:26,099 I took 18 pages that I had written up 226 00:11:26,202 --> 00:11:28,066 with changes that I had made 227 00:11:28,170 --> 00:11:31,138 and my drawings of what this monster would look like, 228 00:11:31,242 --> 00:11:33,589 and that's what I used in in my meetings 229 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:35,729 when I went to all these different studios. 230 00:11:35,833 --> 00:11:39,146 Paramount, Warner Brothers, Universal 231 00:11:39,250 --> 00:11:41,873 and then United Artists. I think there's a fifth. 232 00:11:41,977 --> 00:11:44,531 I -- I don't remember if it's Fox or not. 233 00:11:44,634 --> 00:11:46,119 The head of United Artists, 234 00:11:46,222 --> 00:11:48,362 a wonderful man named Tony Thomopoulos, 235 00:11:48,466 --> 00:11:52,677 came to my office and said, "Look, I want to give you a home 236 00:11:52,781 --> 00:11:54,299 where you can not only be successful, 237 00:11:54,403 --> 00:11:57,233 but you can also fail. And we'll do this together." 238 00:11:57,337 --> 00:12:01,997 But the studio wanted someone else to come in and write. 239 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:05,000 -They brought in other people instantly, 240 00:12:05,103 --> 00:12:08,175 and I knew enough about the movie business that, like, 241 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:10,074 okay, this is just the way it goes. 242 00:12:10,177 --> 00:12:12,041 -I remember a meeting at my house 243 00:12:12,145 --> 00:12:15,010 and I invited Don to it, and Tom Holland was there. 244 00:12:15,113 --> 00:12:16,977 We were sitting around my my breakfast table 245 00:12:17,081 --> 00:12:21,154 just discussing all of this and what it's going to be like. 246 00:12:21,257 --> 00:12:23,881 -I was very excited to be meeting Tom Holland. 247 00:12:23,984 --> 00:12:26,228 You know, he was, you know, someone I admired. 248 00:12:26,331 --> 00:12:28,748 I loved the script for "Psycho II." 249 00:12:28,851 --> 00:12:30,128 I also had loved his movie 250 00:12:30,232 --> 00:12:31,889 "Cloak & Dagger" that he wrote. 251 00:12:31,992 --> 00:12:33,614 And "Fright Night" I thought was great. 252 00:12:33,718 --> 00:12:40,207 -What happened was I finished "Fright Night" and I took 253 00:12:40,311 --> 00:12:42,520 "Blood Buddy," as it was called at the time, 254 00:12:42,623 --> 00:12:44,694 and tried to get a script out of it, and I couldn't do it. 255 00:12:44,798 --> 00:12:47,870 And that's because I didn't want to disturb the original script. 256 00:12:47,974 --> 00:12:49,285 But there was no bad guy. 257 00:12:49,389 --> 00:12:51,080 -And he was just sort of talking about 258 00:12:51,184 --> 00:12:53,186 some of the changes that they were going to make. 259 00:12:53,289 --> 00:12:55,671 And the first one was the notion 260 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,915 that they were going to make the doll 261 00:12:58,018 --> 00:13:00,193 possessed by a serial killer. 262 00:13:00,296 --> 00:13:03,334 You know, I felt that it was less interesting, 263 00:13:03,437 --> 00:13:06,095 but I think it was deliberate and probably correct 264 00:13:06,199 --> 00:13:09,305 and smart of them to make it simpler in that way, 265 00:13:09,409 --> 00:13:15,346 to make Andy the clear hero and Chucky the clear villain. 266 00:13:15,449 --> 00:13:17,348 So Tom came in initially 267 00:13:17,451 --> 00:13:19,937 and he was going to do a draft of the script, 268 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,594 but for some reason he fell out. 269 00:13:22,698 --> 00:13:25,839 -I couldn't build a story with a rising suspense line, 270 00:13:25,943 --> 00:13:28,531 which I wanted, so I gave up 271 00:13:28,635 --> 00:13:31,603 because I was going crazy trying to get it and couldn't do it. 272 00:13:31,707 --> 00:13:35,262 And I left and I made... 273 00:13:35,366 --> 00:13:37,230 And while I was gone, it went to somebody else. 274 00:13:37,333 --> 00:13:39,991 -They went to John Lafia to do the rewrite. 275 00:13:40,095 --> 00:13:41,993 -And he hit a home run with that script. 276 00:13:42,097 --> 00:13:44,651 I mean, there were notes that the studio had, 277 00:13:44,754 --> 00:13:46,135 but they moved forward immediately. 278 00:13:46,239 --> 00:13:48,103 I mean, it was pretty darn quick. 279 00:13:48,206 --> 00:13:50,243 -With the script in active development, 280 00:13:50,346 --> 00:13:52,245 the next step was finding a director, 281 00:13:52,348 --> 00:13:55,040 someone who not only understood the horror genre 282 00:13:55,144 --> 00:13:56,249 but the kind of terror, 283 00:13:56,352 --> 00:13:58,907 action and drama the movie could create. 284 00:13:59,010 --> 00:14:01,910 -I met with a lot of directors, William Friedkin. 285 00:14:02,013 --> 00:14:03,497 I had so much respect for him. 286 00:14:03,601 --> 00:14:06,155 Irvin Kershner, who directed the second "Star Wars," 287 00:14:06,259 --> 00:14:08,399 Robert Wise, who directed "The Sound of Music," 288 00:14:08,502 --> 00:14:10,297 which was shocking that he was even interested. 289 00:14:10,401 --> 00:14:12,748 But he really was. -In this period, 290 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:15,095 there were a couple of other directors 291 00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:17,546 that Kirschner was flirting with. 292 00:14:17,649 --> 00:14:19,237 One of them was Joseph Rubin, 293 00:14:19,341 --> 00:14:22,654 who had just done "The Stepfather." 294 00:14:22,758 --> 00:14:28,937 Another director possibility was the duo of Rocky Morton 295 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,424 and Annabel Jankel, who had done "Max Headroom." 296 00:14:33,527 --> 00:14:37,083 -They offered it to everybody in town countless times, 297 00:14:37,186 --> 00:14:40,224 and everybody in town turned it down countless times. 298 00:14:40,327 --> 00:14:44,884 -And then it came back to Tom, and Tom came back onto it. 299 00:14:44,987 --> 00:14:46,299 -I saw that he did "Fright Night" 300 00:14:46,402 --> 00:14:49,267 and several other films in the genre, 301 00:14:49,371 --> 00:14:51,028 and I was impressed with his work, 302 00:14:51,131 --> 00:14:53,030 so I felt pretty confident in him. 303 00:14:53,133 --> 00:14:55,860 -I think I loved "Fright Night" so much. 304 00:14:55,964 --> 00:14:57,551 I mean, it really spoke to me 305 00:14:57,655 --> 00:15:00,830 and it just really felt like this guy knew how to do horror. 306 00:15:00,934 --> 00:15:04,144 -[Screaming] 307 00:15:04,248 --> 00:15:07,665 -I was also extremely hot in Hollywood at that moment. 308 00:15:07,768 --> 00:15:11,427 "Fright Night" had come out and it was a solid success. 309 00:15:11,531 --> 00:15:13,257 They were desperate for a director. 310 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,914 They probably would have taken anybody at that point. 311 00:15:15,017 --> 00:15:16,536 -Tom had a vision for the film. 312 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:19,021 I mean, there was Don's script, there was John's script, 313 00:15:19,125 --> 00:15:20,574 and then his rewrite. 314 00:15:20,678 --> 00:15:22,473 - I was talking to Dean Riesner. 315 00:15:22,576 --> 00:15:25,200 Dean Riesner was a great Hollywood writer, 316 00:15:25,303 --> 00:15:28,030 and Dean said something about, "well, did you ever think 317 00:15:28,134 --> 00:15:30,584 about doing it from the point of view of the killer?" 318 00:15:30,688 --> 00:15:34,071 And then I had more of a story and it started to come. 319 00:15:34,174 --> 00:15:37,660 -I totally get why David Kirschner 320 00:15:37,764 --> 00:15:39,524 and John Lafia and Tom Holland, 321 00:15:39,628 --> 00:15:42,665 why they would change it in the way they did. 322 00:15:42,769 --> 00:15:44,426 And I, you know, can certainly see the upside. 323 00:15:44,529 --> 00:15:48,671 -I went into "Child's Play," which is my title. 324 00:15:48,775 --> 00:15:50,156 -With a director on board, 325 00:15:50,259 --> 00:15:52,089 it was time to search for the film's cast. 326 00:15:52,192 --> 00:15:54,539 In the role of skeptical detective Mike Norris, 327 00:15:54,643 --> 00:15:57,163 Tom Holland landed on someone who understood 328 00:15:57,266 --> 00:16:01,167 the often surprising worlds of drama, fantasy and horror. 329 00:16:01,270 --> 00:16:03,928 -As far as the character of Mike Norris is concerned, 330 00:16:04,032 --> 00:16:05,826 in a way, he's a prototype. 331 00:16:05,930 --> 00:16:07,276 -I was excited by that casting, 332 00:16:07,380 --> 00:16:09,037 and I thought he did a great performance 333 00:16:09,140 --> 00:16:11,280 and he had a hard part as well. 334 00:16:11,384 --> 00:16:14,904 He is the sort of mythical figure, the doubter, 335 00:16:15,008 --> 00:16:16,699 the person who has to be convinced 336 00:16:16,803 --> 00:16:20,220 of this bizarre reality that's occurring in this movie. 337 00:16:20,324 --> 00:16:23,085 -I got The Strangler, Wabash and Van Buren. 338 00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:24,431 [Engine starts, siren wailing] 339 00:16:24,535 --> 00:16:26,916 -I've worked with Chris whenever I can 340 00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:28,539 because he's a brilliant actor 341 00:16:28,642 --> 00:16:30,644 and he's also a wonderful human being. 342 00:16:30,748 --> 00:16:33,958 -There was a period where, you know, it was teetering 343 00:16:34,062 --> 00:16:35,442 whether I was going to do it or not. 344 00:16:35,546 --> 00:16:36,996 I don't remember the pushback particularly, 345 00:16:37,099 --> 00:16:38,998 but I know that Tom and I had did have 346 00:16:39,101 --> 00:16:40,792 a very specific conversation. 347 00:16:40,896 --> 00:16:44,072 And I said to him, go with the guy you feel comfortable with. 348 00:16:44,175 --> 00:16:45,556 -As I understood it, 349 00:16:45,659 --> 00:16:48,559 the enthusiasm was not mutual from the studio. 350 00:16:48,662 --> 00:16:51,596 It was just Tom saying I want him, them saying, 351 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:53,529 "Well, what about so and so? What about so and so?" 352 00:16:53,633 --> 00:16:55,773 And Tom saying, "No, it's Chris Sarandon." 353 00:16:55,876 --> 00:16:58,465 -I just remember there being a great deal of excitement 354 00:16:58,569 --> 00:17:01,192 that we got Chris Sarandon for this little movie. 355 00:17:01,296 --> 00:17:02,952 Being a huge fan of "The Princess Bride," 356 00:17:03,056 --> 00:17:04,436 I was like a fanboy. 357 00:17:04,540 --> 00:17:05,990 -I thought, this movie's going to be really 358 00:17:06,094 --> 00:17:07,405 quite an experience, 359 00:17:07,509 --> 00:17:09,131 just a no brainer in terms of whether 360 00:17:09,234 --> 00:17:11,616 this was going to touch some sort of a nerve or not. 361 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,481 -To play single mother Karen Barclay, an actress 362 00:17:14,585 --> 00:17:17,897 was chosen who had already proven her on screen mettle 363 00:17:18,002 --> 00:17:19,314 by surviving in the desert, 364 00:17:19,416 --> 00:17:21,454 making it through a high school reunion 365 00:17:21,557 --> 00:17:23,559 and even helping the Federation. 366 00:17:23,663 --> 00:17:27,287 -I like the script because I like the role of Karen Barclay. 367 00:17:27,391 --> 00:17:28,909 I thought she was complicated. 368 00:17:29,013 --> 00:17:31,602 I knew there was a lot of drama to play. 369 00:17:31,705 --> 00:17:33,121 -Catherine came in. 370 00:17:33,224 --> 00:17:34,743 I think she'd done that movie about the whale. 371 00:17:34,846 --> 00:17:38,471 -What's going to happen when you release the whales? 372 00:17:38,574 --> 00:17:40,404 -They're going to have to take their chances. 373 00:17:40,507 --> 00:17:42,820 -She just seemed like a mom and she came in with that vibe. 374 00:17:42,923 --> 00:17:45,788 I mean, she clearly had given this a good deal of thought. 375 00:17:45,892 --> 00:17:48,550 -She rose to the top because she was attractive, 376 00:17:48,653 --> 00:17:53,072 and she had a kind of homespun-Midwest-mom 377 00:17:53,175 --> 00:17:54,832 quality that we really liked. 378 00:17:54,935 --> 00:17:59,423 -She was likable, seemed like a kind and decent person. 379 00:17:59,526 --> 00:18:03,496 -I think that that warmth that she naturally has I imagine 380 00:18:03,599 --> 00:18:06,775 is what attracted Tom and David to casting her. 381 00:18:06,878 --> 00:18:10,606 -She had a lot to her. It was a big role, complicated. 382 00:18:10,710 --> 00:18:13,816 There was a lot of backstory, very great emotional scenes. 383 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,199 -I think that she sells everything in that movie. 384 00:18:17,303 --> 00:18:19,063 -There was a lot to sink my teeth into. 385 00:18:19,167 --> 00:18:20,478 That's why I liked the project. 386 00:18:20,582 --> 00:18:22,031 I knew it would be a challenge, 387 00:18:22,135 --> 00:18:24,241 so I was pretty happy. 388 00:18:24,344 --> 00:18:26,760 -With mother and detective roles filled, 389 00:18:26,864 --> 00:18:30,316 the film faced the challenge of an arduous audition process 390 00:18:30,419 --> 00:18:31,834 to find Andy Barclay, 391 00:18:31,938 --> 00:18:36,184 the little boy object of Chucky's soul swapping desires. 392 00:18:36,287 --> 00:18:38,427 -I don't remember the first Chucky audition, 393 00:18:38,531 --> 00:18:41,292 but I do remember being flown out to L.A. 394 00:18:41,396 --> 00:18:43,708 to audition against just a couple kids 395 00:18:43,812 --> 00:18:45,572 that were left in the running for the part. 396 00:18:45,676 --> 00:18:47,643 -There was something, a sweetness about him, 397 00:18:47,747 --> 00:18:50,439 but there was also something a little bit depressed. 398 00:18:50,543 --> 00:18:52,407 There was something a little bit guarded 399 00:18:52,510 --> 00:18:54,478 or unhappy in him. -The kids who seemed 400 00:18:54,581 --> 00:18:57,446 most natural were the ones that we picked up on. 401 00:18:57,550 --> 00:18:59,552 Alex pretty much rose to the top. 402 00:18:59,655 --> 00:19:02,210 -I thought Alex Vincent was very, very good. 403 00:19:02,313 --> 00:19:04,798 -Alex did not have that Disney kid kind of vibe 404 00:19:04,902 --> 00:19:08,871 to him of just, you know, constant smiles and whatever, 405 00:19:08,975 --> 00:19:10,252 and he stood out. 406 00:19:10,356 --> 00:19:12,530 -We did the scene where I say the line... 407 00:19:12,634 --> 00:19:16,776 -He said that Maggie was a real bitch and got what she deserved. 408 00:19:16,879 --> 00:19:21,090 -And I didn't want to say bitch in front of my mother 409 00:19:21,194 --> 00:19:22,575 at five and a half, six years old. 410 00:19:22,678 --> 00:19:25,336 So when I got to that line, I froze up 411 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,476 and I said that I don't remember the lines. 412 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:29,409 -There was no artifice about him. 413 00:19:29,513 --> 00:19:32,585 There was no cuteness about him. He was real. 414 00:19:32,688 --> 00:19:35,174 -More than that, I think it showed the innocence 415 00:19:35,277 --> 00:19:37,417 that they needed from Andy in me. 416 00:19:37,521 --> 00:19:39,626 -How can you say something so horrible? 417 00:19:39,730 --> 00:19:42,388 -I think that line helped me get the part at some level. 418 00:19:42,491 --> 00:19:45,874 -I thought hands down it was the kid that I wanted. 419 00:19:45,977 --> 00:19:47,393 -With the watchful detective, 420 00:19:47,496 --> 00:19:50,844 loving mother and innocent child ready to play, 421 00:19:50,948 --> 00:19:52,536 it was time to get scary 422 00:19:52,639 --> 00:19:57,196 with the film's antagonist, the despicable Charles Lee Ray. 423 00:19:57,299 --> 00:19:58,749 -Brad came on board because of Tom. 424 00:19:58,852 --> 00:20:01,579 That was Tom's relationship, Tom's idea, 425 00:20:01,683 --> 00:20:03,478 and it's clearly been a great idea 426 00:20:03,581 --> 00:20:05,480 since he's the star of this franchise. 427 00:20:05,583 --> 00:20:09,138 -Brad had been the heavy in "Fatal Beauty" for me, 428 00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:12,211 so I knew what he was capable of. 429 00:20:12,314 --> 00:20:14,454 -Kevlar, bitch! [Laughs] 430 00:20:14,558 --> 00:20:16,387 I read the script and, you know, 431 00:20:16,491 --> 00:20:18,389 I talked with Tom about it. 432 00:20:18,493 --> 00:20:20,219 It was a good script, and he asked me 433 00:20:20,322 --> 00:20:21,427 if I wanted to do it, and I said sure. 434 00:20:21,530 --> 00:20:22,911 -That's my memory of it. 435 00:20:23,014 --> 00:20:24,706 We didn't really go through other people. 436 00:20:24,809 --> 00:20:26,708 Pretty much it was Brad all along. 437 00:20:26,811 --> 00:20:30,159 -I also loved Brad Dourif, and I think he's a good actor. 438 00:20:30,263 --> 00:20:31,540 And I think he enjoyed it. 439 00:20:31,644 --> 00:20:33,335 I did "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" 440 00:20:33,439 --> 00:20:34,819 and I played a crazy person, 441 00:20:34,923 --> 00:20:38,616 and that's sort of the way people saw me. 442 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,584 -When Brad is playing Charles Lee Ray, 443 00:20:40,687 --> 00:20:46,072 he is such the epitome of an eccentric, bizarre 444 00:20:46,175 --> 00:20:48,626 and also maniacal individual. 445 00:20:48,730 --> 00:20:52,941 -He was generally a sleaze and, you know, a serial killer 446 00:20:53,044 --> 00:20:56,669 who killed women before he became sort of a general, 447 00:20:56,772 --> 00:21:00,293 you know, all sex liberal murderer. 448 00:21:00,397 --> 00:21:03,331 -And Brad slips into that quite easily. 449 00:21:03,434 --> 00:21:05,367 He's an extraordinary human being I think. 450 00:21:05,471 --> 00:21:08,577 A smart, funny and also highly imaginative. 451 00:21:08,681 --> 00:21:12,029 -And it was a blast. It was really a blast. 452 00:21:12,132 --> 00:21:13,479 -[Screaming] 453 00:21:13,582 --> 00:21:15,688 Brad's on his own kind of planet, 454 00:21:15,791 --> 00:21:18,207 which makes him perfect for the character. 455 00:21:18,311 --> 00:21:20,209 -And Chris Sarandon is great. 456 00:21:20,313 --> 00:21:21,763 You know, he's a wonderful actor. 457 00:21:21,866 --> 00:21:25,214 -It's very fortunate that we had two weeks in Chicago 458 00:21:25,318 --> 00:21:27,286 to rehearse this movie. 459 00:21:27,389 --> 00:21:29,046 -You think you can fuck with me? 460 00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:33,947 -When he came out to Chicago and he and I and Catherine Hicks 461 00:21:34,051 --> 00:21:38,366 acting out parts from the film where he got down on the ground, 462 00:21:38,469 --> 00:21:39,953 was crawling around like Chucky. 463 00:21:40,057 --> 00:21:41,438 -Andy, stop her. 464 00:21:41,541 --> 00:21:43,854 -I'm your friend to the end, remember? 465 00:21:43,957 --> 00:21:46,374 -This is the end, friend. 466 00:21:46,477 --> 00:21:49,031 -And I would just squat down low 467 00:21:49,135 --> 00:21:50,654 so that they would get used to -- 468 00:21:50,757 --> 00:21:52,897 and I played Chucky, which was actually a lot of fun. 469 00:21:53,001 --> 00:21:56,522 -It was like doing a play. It was drama, drama, drama. 470 00:21:56,625 --> 00:21:59,732 -Either it was impactful 471 00:21:59,835 --> 00:22:02,286 and the movie worked, or it wasn't, 472 00:22:02,390 --> 00:22:03,805 and then the movie wouldn't work. 473 00:22:03,908 --> 00:22:05,289 -Then they would say, when you get to L.A. 474 00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:06,497 you'll -- you'll meet the doll. 475 00:22:06,601 --> 00:22:08,603 And I was like, oh, that's right. 476 00:22:08,706 --> 00:22:10,743 It's, yeah, it's got -- it's got a doll. 477 00:22:10,846 --> 00:22:12,641 It's a little bit of a horror film. 478 00:22:12,745 --> 00:22:16,576 Whatever. Let's go back to working with Brad Dourif. 479 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,579 -All I had to do was be charming. 480 00:22:19,683 --> 00:22:20,822 [Laughs] 481 00:22:20,925 --> 00:22:21,754 [Screams] 482 00:22:21,857 --> 00:22:23,411 -It's impossible at this point 483 00:22:23,514 --> 00:22:24,584 to imagine anyone 484 00:22:24,688 --> 00:22:26,655 but Brad Dourif voicing Chucky. 485 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:33,524 There was a phase where Tom tried using another voice 486 00:22:33,628 --> 00:22:36,493 for the doll, and it was Jessica Walter. 487 00:22:36,596 --> 00:22:38,564 -That is true. -I didn't even know that. 488 00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:41,739 -The only Chucky voice I ever worked with was Brad Dourif's. 489 00:22:41,843 --> 00:22:43,810 -I had no idea that Jessica Walter 490 00:22:43,914 --> 00:22:46,468 was initially cast as Chucky's voice. 491 00:22:46,572 --> 00:22:48,159 -Her voice was going to be separate 492 00:22:48,263 --> 00:22:50,023 than Brad Dourif's voice. 493 00:22:50,127 --> 00:22:53,613 Brad would be the killer, and she would become the doll. 494 00:22:53,717 --> 00:22:58,653 -The logic being that because a woman, Mercedes McCambridge, 495 00:22:58,756 --> 00:23:01,483 had voiced the devil in "The Exorcist"... 496 00:23:01,587 --> 00:23:03,278 -Now kindly undo these straps. 497 00:23:03,382 --> 00:23:06,315 -I think Tom's logic was he just thought it might be interesting 498 00:23:06,419 --> 00:23:07,731 to hear a woman do this. 499 00:23:07,834 --> 00:23:10,527 -I reached out to Brad Dourif to voice Chucky, 500 00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:12,218 and Brad was not available. 501 00:23:12,321 --> 00:23:14,496 I tried all these voiceover artists, 502 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,015 and none of them seemed 503 00:23:16,118 --> 00:23:18,949 to have the bloodthirsty glee that I wanted. 504 00:23:19,052 --> 00:23:20,847 And then I thought of Jessica Walter, 505 00:23:20,951 --> 00:23:23,540 who's a brilliant actress and who scared the shit 506 00:23:23,643 --> 00:23:27,267 out of me in the Clint Eastwood movie. 507 00:23:27,371 --> 00:23:28,752 -[Screams] 508 00:23:28,855 --> 00:23:31,479 -So I had her come in and I had her do Chucky. 509 00:23:31,582 --> 00:23:32,825 -And it didn't really work. 510 00:23:32,928 --> 00:23:35,103 It was just a little distracting. 511 00:23:35,206 --> 00:23:36,553 -You know, it was 512 00:23:36,656 --> 00:23:38,071 probably really funny and a great deal of fun, 513 00:23:38,175 --> 00:23:39,590 but just wrong. 514 00:23:39,694 --> 00:23:43,111 -It just didn't seem to have enough gravel to it, 515 00:23:43,214 --> 00:23:44,492 for lack of a better word. 516 00:23:44,595 --> 00:23:46,735 -I believe a female voice for Chucky 517 00:23:46,839 --> 00:23:48,841 would have been very counterproductive. 518 00:23:48,944 --> 00:23:50,877 It's not a girl doll, it's a boy doll. 519 00:23:50,981 --> 00:23:53,328 -I'm a gay guy, so I think I'm allowed to say it. 520 00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:54,743 Chucky sounded gay. 521 00:23:54,847 --> 00:23:58,437 -I tried putting filters on -- on Chucky's voice, 522 00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:01,060 and I was just about ready to shoot myself. 523 00:24:01,163 --> 00:24:04,339 So thankfully Brad came back when he was available 524 00:24:04,443 --> 00:24:06,721 and voiced Chucky and it worked perfectly. 525 00:24:06,824 --> 00:24:08,895 -It wasn't that he was so frightening, 526 00:24:08,999 --> 00:24:12,761 but he also captured the humor, the glee. 527 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:15,730 His inflection, the rhythm of the way he speaks, 528 00:24:15,833 --> 00:24:18,249 Brad Dourif just nails the voice. 529 00:24:18,353 --> 00:24:20,320 -And Chucky became his. 530 00:24:20,424 --> 00:24:22,081 -[Laughs] -[Evil laughter] 531 00:24:22,184 --> 00:24:25,602 -With the human cast locked down, designing, constructing 532 00:24:25,705 --> 00:24:28,259 and operating the film's murderous doll 533 00:24:28,363 --> 00:24:29,882 was a major undertaking. 534 00:24:29,985 --> 00:24:32,919 The responsibility fell to an up and coming monster maker 535 00:24:33,023 --> 00:24:35,853 who had already worked with two titans of terror. 536 00:24:35,957 --> 00:24:38,062 It would ultimately fall on his shoulders 537 00:24:38,166 --> 00:24:41,203 to make this movie's mechanical maniac his third. 538 00:24:41,307 --> 00:24:43,861 -Studio said to me, it's obviously going to have 539 00:24:43,965 --> 00:24:46,864 to be some kind of animatronic that makes this work, 540 00:24:46,968 --> 00:24:48,625 but they didn't seem to trip over it. 541 00:24:48,728 --> 00:24:50,316 -And I knew that he had to start out 542 00:24:50,419 --> 00:24:53,043 being cloyingly cute and sweet, 543 00:24:53,146 --> 00:24:55,942 and I need to have him turn into the devil from hell. 544 00:24:56,046 --> 00:24:57,806 Something out of your worst nightmare. 545 00:24:57,910 --> 00:25:00,188 -Animatronics had progressed to the point 546 00:25:00,291 --> 00:25:03,709 that the doll could do anything that I could write. 547 00:25:03,812 --> 00:25:06,056 They could like, articulate and have emotion. 548 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:08,921 -It was a very, very difficult to make 549 00:25:09,024 --> 00:25:11,993 because nobody had ever done a puppet movie 550 00:25:12,096 --> 00:25:15,410 asking that puppet to do what I was asking him to do. 551 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,067 -I had met with a host of people, 552 00:25:17,170 --> 00:25:20,795 and Kevin, even his studio was so impressive. 553 00:25:20,898 --> 00:25:23,556 -I grew up on watching all the classic films. 554 00:25:23,660 --> 00:25:25,696 So it was "Frankenstein," "The Mummy," you know, 555 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,111 "Creature Lagoon from the Black Lagoon," 556 00:25:27,215 --> 00:25:28,388 all those things, And that's what kind of 557 00:25:28,492 --> 00:25:29,838 got my interest in horror. 558 00:25:29,942 --> 00:25:33,566 -And I was just so taken by him and his passion. 559 00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:35,775 -I got a call from the producer, David Kirschner, 560 00:25:35,879 --> 00:25:39,330 who had been talking to makeup effects man named Rick Baker, 561 00:25:39,434 --> 00:25:41,332 who I was a huge fan of. 562 00:25:41,436 --> 00:25:42,851 I got to work on "Thriller" 563 00:25:42,955 --> 00:25:44,681 and all that stuff and got to know Rick. 564 00:25:44,784 --> 00:25:47,580 I had just finished "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3," 565 00:25:47,684 --> 00:25:50,203 and I turned on the big Freddy snake head, 566 00:25:50,307 --> 00:25:52,930 and it was animatronic, and that impressed him enough. 567 00:25:53,034 --> 00:25:55,105 -I went in and when I met with Kevin, 568 00:25:55,208 --> 00:25:57,832 he felt very strongly that this could work. 569 00:25:57,935 --> 00:25:59,523 -I think he right then just said, 570 00:25:59,627 --> 00:26:01,007 I really want you to do this film. 571 00:26:01,111 --> 00:26:02,319 I'm like, yeah. 572 00:26:02,422 --> 00:26:03,734 -I was working for Kevin Yagher, 573 00:26:03,838 --> 00:26:05,874 and, uh, Kevin came in one day and said, 574 00:26:05,978 --> 00:26:07,496 hey guys, we're going to do this movie 575 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,877 called "Child's Play," 576 00:26:08,981 --> 00:26:10,465 and we're going to create Chucky. 577 00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:12,053 And I was like, this is going to be cool. 578 00:26:12,156 --> 00:26:14,676 -Howard was like my main right hand man at the shop. 579 00:26:14,780 --> 00:26:16,091 He just had a great bedside manner. 580 00:26:16,195 --> 00:26:18,542 He's a wonderful, funny human being. 581 00:26:18,646 --> 00:26:19,888 -It wasn't a lot of us, 582 00:26:19,992 --> 00:26:21,890 like Kevin had a very, very small crew. 583 00:26:21,994 --> 00:26:24,134 None of us had ever done anything like this before. 584 00:26:24,237 --> 00:26:26,654 So Kevin assembled a great mechanical crew 585 00:26:26,757 --> 00:26:28,345 and a great art crew. 586 00:26:28,448 --> 00:26:30,692 -David sent me the script after we had a first meeting. 587 00:26:30,796 --> 00:26:32,660 He showed me a picture of this doll 588 00:26:32,763 --> 00:26:34,558 that looked very much like the "Magic" doll. 589 00:26:34,662 --> 00:26:37,078 -[Shouts] 590 00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:38,458 -I felt like, okay, that's kind of the flavor 591 00:26:38,562 --> 00:26:39,736 of it, you know, we get. 592 00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:42,290 -His design of the look of the doll, 593 00:26:42,393 --> 00:26:46,846 based on my description, was obviously a very important 594 00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:50,194 part of the ultimate look of Chucky. 595 00:26:50,298 --> 00:26:54,026 Kevin Yagher made contributions to that as well. 596 00:26:54,129 --> 00:26:55,855 -But then you know, Tom Holland, the director, 597 00:26:55,959 --> 00:26:57,857 would come in and David Kirschner, 598 00:26:57,961 --> 00:26:59,825 the producer, would come in and there'd be some changes. 599 00:26:59,928 --> 00:27:01,550 And then Kevin wanted changes and you would see it evolve. 600 00:27:01,654 --> 00:27:04,623 -So we just started saying, make it cuter, make it cuter. 601 00:27:04,726 --> 00:27:06,383 There was a doll out called Corky, 602 00:27:06,486 --> 00:27:08,592 and it was an animatronic doll you could actually talk to. 603 00:27:08,696 --> 00:27:10,594 -Gee, Corky, when you talk about 604 00:27:10,698 --> 00:27:12,700 something, it's almost real. 605 00:27:12,803 --> 00:27:14,667 -I know some great songs, too. 606 00:27:14,771 --> 00:27:16,773 -It was just like it make it as cute as Corky. 607 00:27:16,876 --> 00:27:18,326 I got tired of that phrase. 608 00:27:18,429 --> 00:27:21,950 -I never, ever once thought that the cuteness 609 00:27:22,054 --> 00:27:24,712 of the original doll was going to be a problem. 610 00:27:24,815 --> 00:27:27,231 -I give a dimples and bigger cheeks, you know? 611 00:27:27,335 --> 00:27:29,509 You know, cheeks that, you know, were fuller faced. 612 00:27:29,613 --> 00:27:30,959 And then we changed the eyes blue. 613 00:27:31,063 --> 00:27:32,616 I went to Dave and I said, "Listen. 614 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,928 As he becomes more human, 615 00:27:34,031 --> 00:27:35,757 be really great to make the eyes colder. 616 00:27:35,861 --> 00:27:37,241 Can we go ice cold?" He said, 617 00:27:37,345 --> 00:27:39,174 "We just hired this actor named Brad Dourif. 618 00:27:39,278 --> 00:27:42,488 And the funny thing is, he's got ice cold blue eyes, 619 00:27:42,591 --> 00:27:43,800 so that would work out perfect. 620 00:27:43,903 --> 00:27:45,664 -The movie defines the character. 621 00:27:45,767 --> 00:27:47,804 What happens defines the character. 622 00:27:47,907 --> 00:27:49,806 I thought it was going to be an asset. 623 00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:52,843 -So we changed Chucky's eyes to like, sky blue. 624 00:27:52,947 --> 00:27:54,742 But as he becomes more human in the film, 625 00:27:54,845 --> 00:27:56,778 those eyes go icier cold. 626 00:27:56,882 --> 00:27:59,091 -Kevin gave me a call and told me 627 00:27:59,194 --> 00:28:01,196 me that he was going to be building the doll 628 00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:02,681 for this -- this film. 629 00:28:02,784 --> 00:28:05,718 I started working with him on "Cocoon" 630 00:28:05,822 --> 00:28:08,859 and also Weird Al Yankovic's "Fat" video. 631 00:28:08,963 --> 00:28:13,243 They contacted me originally to make the costumes 632 00:28:13,346 --> 00:28:14,934 for the -- the dolls. 633 00:28:15,038 --> 00:28:18,973 It was going to be maybe 15, 20. It turned out to be 72. 634 00:28:19,076 --> 00:28:21,147 -And I knew that I wanted to go with happy Colors. 635 00:28:21,251 --> 00:28:23,080 It had to feel like it was being done 636 00:28:23,184 --> 00:28:27,533 by a marketing campaign from a major advertising agency 637 00:28:27,636 --> 00:28:29,190 pitching to seven-year-olds. 638 00:28:29,293 --> 00:28:32,849 -I worked closely also with Ron Pipes, who did the hair. 639 00:28:32,952 --> 00:28:34,782 -One day I showed up in the morning 640 00:28:34,885 --> 00:28:36,335 and that's what we did. 641 00:28:36,438 --> 00:28:38,371 We sat in a little room making Chucky hair pieces. 642 00:28:38,475 --> 00:28:41,789 -And I believe we made six hero toy versions. 643 00:28:41,892 --> 00:28:44,757 And then I made 50 vacuform ones 644 00:28:44,861 --> 00:28:47,035 that had hair and stick-on eyes and everything, 645 00:28:47,139 --> 00:28:48,968 and they had full wardrobe for the boxes, 646 00:28:49,072 --> 00:28:50,556 you know, that were in the toy store. 647 00:28:50,659 --> 00:28:51,971 -In the first film 648 00:28:52,075 --> 00:28:53,870 he transforms, he becomes more human 649 00:28:53,973 --> 00:28:55,975 because his hairline started to recede. 650 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:59,047 We started punching eyebrows into the heads as well. 651 00:28:59,151 --> 00:29:02,223 -And I worked closely with the mechanics 652 00:29:02,326 --> 00:29:05,226 and the puppeteers, because you really have to be 653 00:29:05,329 --> 00:29:08,988 able to accommodate the motors, the batteries. 654 00:29:09,092 --> 00:29:10,990 -The mechanical aspect was massive 655 00:29:11,094 --> 00:29:12,474 because there was so much 656 00:29:12,578 --> 00:29:14,028 that this puppet needed to do. -Because he had 657 00:29:14,131 --> 00:29:15,754 to go from the toy version all the way 658 00:29:15,857 --> 00:29:19,136 to the Jack Nicholson or the Brad Dourif type 659 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,552 with the receding hairline, the darker skin. 660 00:29:21,656 --> 00:29:24,728 Then his eyes became to change, so we had to make those look 661 00:29:24,832 --> 00:29:26,488 as realistic as possible at the end. 662 00:29:26,592 --> 00:29:28,249 So there's five stages of heads. 663 00:29:28,352 --> 00:29:30,838 -We had, like, the yelling head and like the surprise head, 664 00:29:30,941 --> 00:29:33,461 and then the kind face and the good guy doll face. 665 00:29:33,564 --> 00:29:36,913 -And so in each head had to have three puppeteers. 666 00:29:37,016 --> 00:29:39,812 There was one working the cheeks and the brows, 667 00:29:39,916 --> 00:29:41,918 one working the mouth and he had a headgear. 668 00:29:42,021 --> 00:29:44,092 It was like a football chinstrap 669 00:29:44,196 --> 00:29:45,991 that we hooked up to potentiometers 670 00:29:46,094 --> 00:29:49,097 that would then signal the servos inside Chucky's head. 671 00:29:49,201 --> 00:29:52,791 He had 25 to 28 servos inside of his head. 672 00:29:52,894 --> 00:29:54,344 -The first time we finally 673 00:29:54,447 --> 00:29:58,210 got the walking hero puppet up and running. 674 00:29:58,313 --> 00:30:00,108 There was no skin on it, and they turned it on 675 00:30:00,212 --> 00:30:01,765 and that thing just started moving. 676 00:30:01,869 --> 00:30:03,871 I was like, Holy shit, this is amazing. 677 00:30:03,974 --> 00:30:08,841 -I was blown away by what goes in to this creature 678 00:30:08,945 --> 00:30:10,360 moving and talking. 679 00:30:10,463 --> 00:30:12,293 -It was the coolest thing in the world. 680 00:30:12,396 --> 00:30:16,021 Any opportunity I got to fiddle with some of the puppetry stuff 681 00:30:16,124 --> 00:30:17,470 was the coolest thing for me. 682 00:30:17,574 --> 00:30:19,024 -It was so amazing. 683 00:30:19,127 --> 00:30:21,820 That word spread kind of quick that Stan Winston, 684 00:30:21,923 --> 00:30:23,994 multi-Academy Award winner of "Jurassic Park," 685 00:30:24,098 --> 00:30:26,341 "Aliens," "Predator" called Kevin was like, 686 00:30:26,445 --> 00:30:28,447 I want to come over and I want to see what you're working on. 687 00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:29,758 -Kevin Yagher and the doll 688 00:30:29,862 --> 00:30:31,864 actually performed extremely well. 689 00:30:31,968 --> 00:30:33,210 -He's the guy 690 00:30:33,314 --> 00:30:36,248 whose imagination and whose expertise 691 00:30:36,351 --> 00:30:39,389 created the various iterations of the doll. 692 00:30:39,492 --> 00:30:42,081 -It was, you know, incredibly exciting to see. 693 00:30:42,185 --> 00:30:46,706 This looks super cool and a lot like what I had imagined. 694 00:30:46,810 --> 00:30:48,777 -Kevin brought the character to life. 695 00:30:48,881 --> 00:30:50,434 He's Dr. Frankenstein 696 00:30:50,538 --> 00:30:53,817 and was able to just take a graphite pencil drawing 697 00:30:53,921 --> 00:30:56,164 and bring that to life. -It's alive! 698 00:30:56,268 --> 00:30:58,304 -I look at Chucky as you know, my baby. 699 00:30:58,408 --> 00:31:00,686 I'm sure Don does the same thing and so does David, 700 00:31:00,789 --> 00:31:02,343 and I'm so proud of it. 701 00:31:02,446 --> 00:31:05,794 -And it really worked. People really, really liked it. 702 00:31:05,898 --> 00:31:07,348 So that was cool. 703 00:31:07,451 --> 00:31:10,558 -You knew that a star was born and it wasn't human. 704 00:31:10,661 --> 00:31:13,285 It was the doll, Chucky. 705 00:31:13,388 --> 00:31:16,564 -With a director, main cast and murderous villain, 706 00:31:16,667 --> 00:31:17,979 Tom Holland's "Child's Play" 707 00:31:18,083 --> 00:31:21,396 began filming on January 7th, 1988. 708 00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:24,020 The $13 million film saw its start 709 00:31:24,123 --> 00:31:26,815 by shooting on the streets of Chicago. 710 00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:28,058 -We went into Chicago 711 00:31:28,162 --> 00:31:30,267 in a record-breaking cold winter. 712 00:31:30,371 --> 00:31:32,752 -It was one of their coldest winters in years. 713 00:31:32,856 --> 00:31:33,995 -It was 30 below. 714 00:31:34,099 --> 00:31:36,860 My voice froze in my throat. 715 00:31:36,964 --> 00:31:39,449 -I literally lay in agony 716 00:31:39,552 --> 00:31:43,349 because of the cold burning my esophagus. 717 00:31:43,453 --> 00:31:45,179 -UA brought that up as a reason 718 00:31:45,282 --> 00:31:47,112 we shouldn't go to Chicago, 719 00:31:47,215 --> 00:31:48,941 and the weather is going to be a character in the story, 720 00:31:49,045 --> 00:31:53,221 which I do truly believe it was. 721 00:31:53,325 --> 00:31:56,052 -The original scene that I wrote at the start of the movie 722 00:31:56,155 --> 00:31:57,985 was a helpless woman walking down the street 723 00:31:58,088 --> 00:31:59,779 and she was a female decoy, 724 00:31:59,883 --> 00:32:01,885 and it was Chris Sarandon in drag. 725 00:32:01,989 --> 00:32:03,266 -Wow. 726 00:32:03,369 --> 00:32:06,234 No, I have no recollection of this. 727 00:32:06,338 --> 00:32:08,236 -I think someone made that story up. 728 00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:10,998 -You know what? I had forgotten all about that. 729 00:32:11,101 --> 00:32:16,417 And I just now only vaguely see him doing that. 730 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,729 -The first shot of the movie, as we know it, 731 00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:23,493 is running down Wabash Avenue in Chicago outside the toy store. 732 00:32:23,596 --> 00:32:25,771 -That was one of the scenes that I think, 733 00:32:25,874 --> 00:32:26,875 you know, really created 734 00:32:26,979 --> 00:32:28,360 that sort of sense of, 735 00:32:28,463 --> 00:32:31,466 oh, we're in for an exciting ride. 736 00:32:31,570 --> 00:32:32,951 [Gunshots] 737 00:32:33,054 --> 00:32:35,988 [Alarm ringing] 738 00:32:36,092 --> 00:32:37,438 -For the toy store, 739 00:32:37,541 --> 00:32:39,509 which is one of the first scenes in the film, 740 00:32:39,612 --> 00:32:42,822 um, I knew it was going to be like 10,000 square ft, 741 00:32:42,926 --> 00:32:45,066 and that's a lot of space to fill. 742 00:32:45,170 --> 00:32:47,655 -You couldn't just waltz into a toy store 743 00:32:47,758 --> 00:32:49,139 and, you know, rearrange it. 744 00:32:49,243 --> 00:32:52,177 -So I contacted Toys "R" Us, and I said, 745 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,594 "Give me all of your returns and I'll give you $14,000." 746 00:32:55,697 --> 00:32:59,770 And so nine semis rolled up and we dressed that set 747 00:32:59,874 --> 00:33:01,220 I think in four days. 748 00:33:01,324 --> 00:33:02,566 -We did the vacuum forms. 749 00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:04,120 We painted the forms back in the shop. 750 00:33:04,223 --> 00:33:05,949 We had little stickers for the eyes. 751 00:33:06,053 --> 00:33:07,537 We made little wigs and put those on. 752 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,573 And then we got from wardrobe all the Chucky outfits, 753 00:33:09,677 --> 00:33:11,920 so we'd have stacks of them on one side, 754 00:33:12,024 --> 00:33:13,301 and the camera would change angles, 755 00:33:13,405 --> 00:33:15,269 and we'd put the same 50 on the other side. 756 00:33:15,372 --> 00:33:16,856 -We had to have a lot of boxes 757 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,031 that had to be a big popular thing. 758 00:33:19,135 --> 00:33:21,413 -I do remember being in my hotel room, 759 00:33:21,516 --> 00:33:23,346 you know, I wonder what the maid would say 760 00:33:23,449 --> 00:33:25,486 when she came in with all these Chucky dolls. 761 00:33:25,589 --> 00:33:29,835 -I'm gonna get you, and I'm gonna get Eddie 762 00:33:29,938 --> 00:33:31,664 no matter what! 763 00:33:31,768 --> 00:33:37,153 -The scene in the toy store is what really remains with me, 764 00:33:37,256 --> 00:33:39,155 where he puts himself into the doll. 765 00:33:39,258 --> 00:33:41,019 -I had come up with the notion 766 00:33:41,122 --> 00:33:44,988 that he transmogrifies his soul into the doll. 767 00:33:45,092 --> 00:33:46,714 Tom felt that was not enough 768 00:33:46,817 --> 00:33:48,819 and created the voodoo element. 769 00:33:48,923 --> 00:33:49,924 -[Chanting in voodoo] 770 00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:54,929 -They partied more. 771 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:56,517 -I never liked the voodoo. 772 00:33:56,620 --> 00:34:00,107 I just found it to be a kind of corny device. 773 00:34:00,210 --> 00:34:03,144 -I was looking for, for some way to justify 774 00:34:03,248 --> 00:34:05,077 the insanity of the serial killer 775 00:34:05,181 --> 00:34:06,630 putting a soul into that of a doll. 776 00:34:06,734 --> 00:34:09,875 The only thing I could think of was voodoo. 777 00:34:09,978 --> 00:34:11,359 -It was a brilliant idea. 778 00:34:11,463 --> 00:34:14,259 It gave a spooky spirituality to the film. 779 00:34:14,362 --> 00:34:16,744 -And all of this was so integral 780 00:34:16,847 --> 00:34:18,228 to the plot of the film. 781 00:34:18,331 --> 00:34:20,058 -You know, I think it served its purpose 782 00:34:20,161 --> 00:34:23,509 in terms of explaining Chucky's life energy. 783 00:34:23,612 --> 00:34:26,373 -The audience wasn't going to go anywhere 784 00:34:26,478 --> 00:34:29,308 until they saw what happened with that doll. 785 00:34:29,411 --> 00:34:31,516 -Great idea, that voodoo, 786 00:34:31,621 --> 00:34:34,451 even though I resisted it for a long time. 787 00:34:34,554 --> 00:34:39,284 ♪♪ 788 00:34:39,387 --> 00:34:41,734 -The explosion of toy store went really, really well. 789 00:34:41,838 --> 00:34:45,324 -That explosion really was the hook that started the film. 790 00:34:45,428 --> 00:34:47,257 -And also the fact that it 791 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,777 creates a tempo that remains all the way through. 792 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,228 -The audience was sitting, 793 00:34:52,331 --> 00:34:54,056 waiting for the characters in the movie, 794 00:34:54,161 --> 00:34:55,402 especially Karen Barclay, 795 00:34:55,507 --> 00:34:58,751 to realize that the doll was possessed. 796 00:34:58,855 --> 00:35:00,167 -I'm a good guy. 797 00:35:00,270 --> 00:35:01,892 I've just come from the good guy clubhouse. 798 00:35:01,996 --> 00:35:03,653 -I was so excited by the idea 799 00:35:03,756 --> 00:35:08,244 of creating an animated version of what Chucky would be like, 800 00:35:08,347 --> 00:35:10,315 which was a very big deal with the studio, 801 00:35:10,418 --> 00:35:13,352 just for them to spend money on a piece of animation 802 00:35:13,456 --> 00:35:15,182 in the middle of a horror film. 803 00:35:15,285 --> 00:35:17,529 -I was working at Ruby-Spears Productions at the time, 804 00:35:17,632 --> 00:35:20,014 and I know that David Kirschner had been 805 00:35:20,118 --> 00:35:21,567 working with Hanna-Barbera, 806 00:35:21,671 --> 00:35:24,398 so I ended up doing the drawings on the actual animation, 807 00:35:24,501 --> 00:35:26,296 and others did the animation. 808 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,299 -And it was really fun to take kind of the dark elements 809 00:35:29,403 --> 00:35:33,924 of what Don had created for this big trend for kids 810 00:35:34,028 --> 00:35:35,478 that was sweeping the nation. 811 00:35:35,581 --> 00:35:37,963 -The "Good Guys" show that we saw 812 00:35:38,066 --> 00:35:42,312 was very, very typical of the kind of 813 00:35:42,416 --> 00:35:44,901 toy-driven shows that were being done at that time. 814 00:35:45,004 --> 00:35:48,594 -As well as we did a live action piece in the treehouse 815 00:35:48,698 --> 00:35:51,252 and had a whole costume made of Chucky. 816 00:35:51,356 --> 00:35:53,772 -Good guys say three different sentences. 817 00:35:53,875 --> 00:35:57,845 We even turn our heads and blink our eyes when you talk to us. 818 00:35:57,948 --> 00:35:59,467 -And so they contacted me 819 00:35:59,571 --> 00:36:02,712 originally to make the large walk-around version, 820 00:36:02,815 --> 00:36:05,301 which would have a full size person in it. 821 00:36:05,404 --> 00:36:09,374 -I know that Carol Siegel, my assistant, 822 00:36:09,477 --> 00:36:14,068 played Chucky in the doll costume in the commercial. 823 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,622 -Oh, happy birthday, pumpkin. -Thanks. 824 00:36:16,726 --> 00:36:19,349 -I think you really believed their bond. 825 00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:21,903 -We kind of attack relationships and concepts 826 00:36:22,007 --> 00:36:25,493 from a lot of different angles -- humor, horror, drama. 827 00:36:25,597 --> 00:36:29,256 -We did so many scenes between me and my son 828 00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:31,050 about my husband, his dad. 829 00:36:31,154 --> 00:36:32,604 There was a lot of backstory. 830 00:36:32,707 --> 00:36:35,089 -So my father in "Child's Play," 831 00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:36,815 who was never really seen on screen, 832 00:36:36,918 --> 00:36:40,163 there is a picture frame which was one of Tom Holland's 833 00:36:40,267 --> 00:36:42,234 cameos in the film. 834 00:36:42,338 --> 00:36:44,581 There was some expansion on the idea 835 00:36:44,685 --> 00:36:47,377 that Andy's father had died. 836 00:36:47,481 --> 00:36:50,138 That idea that Chucky was sent down from heaven 837 00:36:50,242 --> 00:36:51,485 by daddy to play with me 838 00:36:51,588 --> 00:36:53,694 I think really helped draw Andy in. 839 00:36:53,797 --> 00:36:56,800 I think the relationship between Karen and Andy 840 00:36:56,904 --> 00:37:00,632 was built on a place of relatability for people. 841 00:37:00,735 --> 00:37:02,530 -Catherine was a complete professional 842 00:37:02,634 --> 00:37:04,463 and she really had to bring that stuff to life. 843 00:37:04,567 --> 00:37:06,362 She had to be a sweet mom 844 00:37:06,465 --> 00:37:08,122 that's on her own, you know, raising this kid. 845 00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:13,334 -The horror fact was really secondary for me as an actor. 846 00:37:13,438 --> 00:37:14,956 -It corresponds more to the way 847 00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:16,717 I originally saw this world 848 00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:19,513 in the home, familiar surroundings 849 00:37:19,616 --> 00:37:21,377 and things turning against you. 850 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,931 -Chill out, would you, Walter, huh? 851 00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:26,934 -Well, I was living in New York at the time, 852 00:37:27,037 --> 00:37:28,763 and I had two auditions. 853 00:37:28,867 --> 00:37:32,319 One was for a movie called "Bloodhounds of Broadway," 854 00:37:32,422 --> 00:37:33,665 but they don't pay any money. 855 00:37:33,768 --> 00:37:35,494 And then I had this other audition 856 00:37:35,598 --> 00:37:39,395 for this horror movie called "Child's Play" 857 00:37:39,498 --> 00:37:42,674 about this killer doll, but they were paying. 858 00:37:42,777 --> 00:37:44,469 -I had been in the Actor's Studio 859 00:37:44,572 --> 00:37:46,402 with her mother, Lee Grant. 860 00:37:46,505 --> 00:37:49,612 Lee Grant is a brilliant actress, just brilliant. 861 00:37:49,715 --> 00:37:53,098 And Dinah came in and she was really talented 862 00:37:53,201 --> 00:37:54,513 and gave a great reading. 863 00:37:54,617 --> 00:37:56,826 -In my original script, she was a teenager 864 00:37:56,929 --> 00:37:58,621 rather than being a friend of the family. 865 00:37:58,724 --> 00:38:01,140 -I wasn't aware that Maggie was originally meant 866 00:38:01,244 --> 00:38:02,590 just to be the babysitter. 867 00:38:02,694 --> 00:38:04,868 I still would have taken the role. [Laughs] 868 00:38:04,972 --> 00:38:07,768 But it probably would have gone to someone a lot younger. 869 00:38:07,871 --> 00:38:11,150 -When we worked with Dinah, she was incredibly sweet 870 00:38:11,254 --> 00:38:12,807 and we were very excited to get her 871 00:38:12,911 --> 00:38:15,362 because of "Grease" and "Ordinary People." 872 00:38:15,465 --> 00:38:17,018 - I love Dinah Manoff. 873 00:38:17,122 --> 00:38:19,504 We're kindred spirits. We didn't have to do anything 874 00:38:19,607 --> 00:38:21,575 to come off believable as friends. 875 00:38:21,678 --> 00:38:25,786 She is the nicest, prettiest girl in the whole world 876 00:38:25,889 --> 00:38:28,616 and you would want to be her best friend instantly. 877 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,584 -I think the funnest part of making the movie 878 00:38:30,687 --> 00:38:33,380 was having a friend in the department store. 879 00:38:33,483 --> 00:38:34,933 Our opposite natures, 880 00:38:35,036 --> 00:38:38,246 Catherine's being gentler and sweet and mine being, 881 00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:39,972 you know, bossy, 882 00:38:40,076 --> 00:38:42,181 I think you really see that. -I can't just leave my account. 883 00:38:42,285 --> 00:38:43,562 -You want the damn doll or don't you? 884 00:38:43,666 --> 00:38:45,461 -Of course I do. -Well, then, come on. 885 00:38:45,564 --> 00:38:46,979 Come on. -Alright! 886 00:38:47,083 --> 00:38:48,326 -The scene in the alley, 887 00:38:48,429 --> 00:38:50,328 I remember that it was fun. 888 00:38:50,431 --> 00:38:53,710 Okay, show her. 889 00:38:53,814 --> 00:38:55,747 -I don't remember the audition a lot, 890 00:38:55,850 --> 00:38:57,542 but I do remember looking at 891 00:38:57,645 --> 00:38:59,751 who was going to be a part of the whole thing. 892 00:38:59,854 --> 00:39:01,442 I couldn't wait to meet Brad Dourif. 893 00:39:01,546 --> 00:39:03,168 I knew about Chris, and Catherine 894 00:39:03,271 --> 00:39:05,170 was really wonderful too, but working 895 00:39:05,273 --> 00:39:07,724 with Dinah Manoff was an absolute joy. 896 00:39:07,828 --> 00:39:10,520 -Juan was really good, and I remember thinking, 897 00:39:10,624 --> 00:39:12,384 that was a really fun scene to shoot. 898 00:39:12,488 --> 00:39:13,903 -Take it or leave it. Somebody else will buy it. 899 00:39:14,006 --> 00:39:15,939 -I'll take it. -Karen, it's too much money. 900 00:39:16,043 --> 00:39:18,079 -No, it isn't. You have no idea how much Andy wants this doll. 901 00:39:18,183 --> 00:39:21,600 We have struggled, the dad died. It's too expensive. 902 00:39:21,704 --> 00:39:23,809 But I want my child to be happy. 903 00:39:23,913 --> 00:39:26,571 The challenges that came for Catherine were different 904 00:39:26,674 --> 00:39:30,091 because a lot of her stuff she had to internalize. 905 00:39:30,195 --> 00:39:31,541 Here you go, lady. 906 00:39:31,645 --> 00:39:33,198 May it bring you and your kid a lot of joy. 907 00:39:33,301 --> 00:39:37,236 -My role fit into starting this trajectory of the doll. 908 00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:38,721 -People blame me sometimes. 909 00:39:38,824 --> 00:39:40,274 They see me and say, "No, no, man, 910 00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:41,827 you started this, you're the troublemaker. 911 00:39:41,931 --> 00:39:43,691 You're the one who sold it to that poor lady." 912 00:39:43,795 --> 00:39:46,763 -How do we know the damn thing isn't stolen, huh? 913 00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:47,695 -Ah, steal this. 914 00:39:47,799 --> 00:39:49,421 The character of the peddler 915 00:39:49,525 --> 00:39:52,286 found this in the aftermath of this explosion. 916 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:54,046 -And then this terrible event happens. 917 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:58,016 She buys the kid a possessed doll and all hell breaks loose. 918 00:39:58,119 --> 00:39:59,431 -A Good Guy. 919 00:39:59,535 --> 00:40:02,089 -I know it. I know you would get me one. 920 00:40:02,192 --> 00:40:05,644 -Hi, I'm Chucky, and I'm your friend to the end. 921 00:40:05,748 --> 00:40:08,509 -I am actually the original Chucky, you know, 922 00:40:08,613 --> 00:40:11,650 because the first time Chucky's introduced 923 00:40:11,754 --> 00:40:13,583 he's a Good Guy doll. 924 00:40:13,687 --> 00:40:16,966 As a child actor, I voiced many cartoons, 925 00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:18,692 movies, things like that. 926 00:40:18,795 --> 00:40:21,142 I actually voiced Corky back in the day. 927 00:40:21,246 --> 00:40:25,250 Hi, pal. My name's Corky. Come on and be my best friend. 928 00:40:25,353 --> 00:40:26,389 -Okay. -Everybody has their favorite 929 00:40:26,493 --> 00:40:28,253 doll growing up, and Chucky 930 00:40:28,356 --> 00:40:32,430 has probably become so many people's favorite doll. 931 00:40:32,533 --> 00:40:33,879 -It's a new friendship in my life 932 00:40:33,983 --> 00:40:35,709 that means a lot to me. -I'll take care 933 00:40:35,812 --> 00:40:38,056 of Andy for you. -Becky, you can't do it again. 934 00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:39,540 -Don't be silly. 935 00:40:39,644 --> 00:40:41,162 It'll be the hottest date I've had in months. 936 00:40:41,266 --> 00:40:44,096 -My favorite chill is probably Aunt Maggie's death. 937 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,861 It's mysterious and domestic, and the whole lead up to that 938 00:40:49,964 --> 00:40:54,210 where he keeps the doll off screen, just like in jaws. 939 00:40:54,313 --> 00:40:58,248 We're seeing the villain's Steadicam point of view. 940 00:40:58,352 --> 00:41:04,116 -And in that scene where I'm reading the book and the doll... 941 00:41:04,220 --> 00:41:06,912 No, everything's okay. Wait, what was that? 942 00:41:07,016 --> 00:41:09,915 -Alex Vincent's sister, Ashley, was in a few shots. 943 00:41:10,019 --> 00:41:13,436 -His sister actually dressed up as the doll, 944 00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:15,956 played Chucky. -She was about four years old, 945 00:41:16,059 --> 00:41:19,891 and the little girl out of focus ran behind the babysitter. 946 00:41:19,994 --> 00:41:23,481 And it is one of the best shots in the movie. 947 00:41:23,584 --> 00:41:25,724 -This was the part of the role 948 00:41:25,828 --> 00:41:28,693 that I was really looking forward to, 949 00:41:28,796 --> 00:41:33,767 because this was the Hitchcockian chance to do the, 950 00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:36,597 you know, wait, I hear something. 951 00:41:36,701 --> 00:41:38,737 Andy, is that you? 952 00:41:38,841 --> 00:41:40,877 [Screams] 953 00:41:40,981 --> 00:41:42,983 [Sighs] What is wrong with me? 954 00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:46,193 And then Chucky comes out and whacks me with the hammer. 955 00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:48,920 Bam! You know, it's really fun. 956 00:41:49,023 --> 00:41:51,509 -And if you look at that, that's a shot moving 957 00:41:51,612 --> 00:41:53,511 with her, that's inserts in the hands, 958 00:41:53,614 --> 00:41:54,995 that's inserts on the feet 959 00:41:55,098 --> 00:41:56,790 and she's going back and hitting the thing. 960 00:41:56,893 --> 00:41:59,758 -Tom had wanted me to do the stunt 961 00:41:59,862 --> 00:42:01,208 of falling through the window, 962 00:42:01,311 --> 00:42:03,969 and I said, can the stunt woman do it first? 963 00:42:04,073 --> 00:42:09,078 And in my recollection, she got cut doing it and I said, nope. 964 00:42:09,181 --> 00:42:11,321 -And I pulled her out and I put the stunt woman in. 965 00:42:11,425 --> 00:42:14,877 And then the stunt woman went out of the window in Chicago. 966 00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:17,845 -[Screaming] 967 00:42:17,949 --> 00:42:20,676 -And then I probably just went over to the craft service table 968 00:42:20,779 --> 00:42:24,507 and got, you know, an apple, some chips. 969 00:42:24,611 --> 00:42:26,647 -Her death scene is so fantastic. 970 00:42:26,751 --> 00:42:28,960 -It was very shocking and well done. 971 00:42:29,063 --> 00:42:31,652 -And that was a huge fall into a bag, 972 00:42:31,756 --> 00:42:33,378 and I had a car down there. 973 00:42:33,481 --> 00:42:37,762 I had a crane above the car and the concrete body hit the car 974 00:42:37,865 --> 00:42:40,178 and crushed the surface which sold the impact. 975 00:42:40,281 --> 00:42:44,009 -I have never seen this movie past where I die. 976 00:42:44,113 --> 00:42:47,703 -I never knew that Dinah never saw the rest of the film 977 00:42:47,806 --> 00:42:50,291 after her death scene. That is funny. 978 00:42:50,395 --> 00:42:53,225 -I just, you know, it's scary. 979 00:42:53,329 --> 00:42:54,537 -Where's Maggie? 980 00:42:54,641 --> 00:42:56,850 -She had an accident. 981 00:42:56,953 --> 00:42:58,610 -Accident? What kind of an accident? 982 00:42:58,714 --> 00:43:01,820 I don't believe I had much time on screen 983 00:43:01,924 --> 00:43:03,477 to deal with her death. 984 00:43:03,581 --> 00:43:04,823 I hope I did it well because it's a 985 00:43:04,927 --> 00:43:07,239 really hard moment to play. 986 00:43:07,343 --> 00:43:10,622 I just remember talking to the detective and, like, 987 00:43:10,726 --> 00:43:12,348 it's just beginning to get weird. 988 00:43:12,451 --> 00:43:19,010 -When Maggie dies, the attention turns to Andy as the killer. 989 00:43:19,113 --> 00:43:21,219 -Andy may have been the one responsible. 990 00:43:21,322 --> 00:43:24,049 Certainly, it's what Detective Norris thinks. 991 00:43:24,153 --> 00:43:25,810 -It looked like footprints, don't they? 992 00:43:25,913 --> 00:43:27,156 Very small footprints. 993 00:43:27,259 --> 00:43:30,918 -What are you implying? -I don't know. 994 00:43:31,022 --> 00:43:33,611 There's no question that Mike Norris is looking at it 995 00:43:33,714 --> 00:43:35,060 very skeptically and thinking, 996 00:43:35,164 --> 00:43:37,304 oh, come on, I know what happened. 997 00:43:37,407 --> 00:43:38,857 I'm an evidence guy, 998 00:43:38,961 --> 00:43:41,101 and this just doesn't -- this doesn't make sense. 999 00:43:41,204 --> 00:43:43,724 -Mommy, I know who was on the kitchen counter. 1000 00:43:43,828 --> 00:43:45,588 -Andy, I thought I -- -Who, Andy? Who? 1001 00:43:45,692 --> 00:43:48,073 -Chucky. -Your doll? 1002 00:43:48,177 --> 00:43:52,422 Tom Holland understood the inherent juxtaposition 1003 00:43:52,526 --> 00:43:54,148 between creepiness and innocence. 1004 00:43:54,252 --> 00:43:58,428 -This feeds into every childhood nightmare. 1005 00:43:58,532 --> 00:43:59,740 [Door slams] -Oof. 1006 00:43:59,844 --> 00:44:02,950 -[Whistles] -Ouch. A spirited lady. 1007 00:44:03,054 --> 00:44:04,883 -No kidding. -I went up for Chris' role, 1008 00:44:04,987 --> 00:44:06,851 and Tom dug me, man, you know? 1009 00:44:06,954 --> 00:44:08,818 Tom just got a kick out of me, but he was like, you know, 1010 00:44:08,922 --> 00:44:10,440 I want to give you this other part. 1011 00:44:10,544 --> 00:44:13,512 You know, it was all based on Tom getting a kick out of me. 1012 00:44:13,616 --> 00:44:15,031 -I always found Tommy Swerdlow 1013 00:44:15,135 --> 00:44:18,759 was not afraid to express himself as who he is 1014 00:44:18,863 --> 00:44:20,071 as the character. 1015 00:44:20,174 --> 00:44:22,073 -Jack Santos is a good time, man. 1016 00:44:22,176 --> 00:44:23,799 Let me just say that to everybody. 1017 00:44:23,902 --> 00:44:25,628 -It helped kind of cement the relationship 1018 00:44:25,732 --> 00:44:27,319 between the two cops. 1019 00:44:27,423 --> 00:44:29,011 -Chris is kind of great, man. 1020 00:44:29,114 --> 00:44:32,048 Chris is great doing that earnest cop thing. 1021 00:44:32,152 --> 00:44:33,325 -What is this? 1022 00:44:33,429 --> 00:44:34,672 -Possible murder weapon? 1023 00:44:34,775 --> 00:44:36,708 -No. -I think it's common that cops 1024 00:44:36,812 --> 00:44:39,573 and detectives might not believe someone right away 1025 00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:41,299 or suspect maybe that they're lying. 1026 00:44:41,402 --> 00:44:44,198 But Andy was faced with that very early on, for sure. 1027 00:44:44,302 --> 00:44:48,375 -Chucky directs Andy to leave school secretly, 1028 00:44:48,478 --> 00:44:50,170 and he gets on the L. 1029 00:44:50,273 --> 00:44:54,243 And the juxtaposition of this innocent little boy put into, 1030 00:44:54,346 --> 00:44:59,075 you know, this really seedy area of Chicago 1031 00:44:59,179 --> 00:45:03,114 where a murderer is hiding. 1032 00:45:03,217 --> 00:45:06,634 -Is that Eddie's? 1033 00:45:06,738 --> 00:45:11,122 -So, killing Eddie Caputo was, for Chucky, an act of revenge. 1034 00:45:11,225 --> 00:45:14,021 And that's another common Chucky thing. 1035 00:45:14,125 --> 00:45:17,300 Anybody messes with Chucky, he cannot allow them 1036 00:45:17,404 --> 00:45:18,923 to get away with it. -I remember we went 1037 00:45:19,026 --> 00:45:21,270 there, uh, to that location. 1038 00:45:21,373 --> 00:45:23,686 I stood there and I thought, Jesus Christ, 1039 00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:25,205 this is like a kill zone. 1040 00:45:25,308 --> 00:45:26,689 -During that scout, I went to Barry Osborn 1041 00:45:26,793 --> 00:45:28,208 and I said, "We can't shoot here." 1042 00:45:28,311 --> 00:45:30,210 He said, "Well, I take your point, 1043 00:45:30,313 --> 00:45:32,764 but there's no other vacant lot where the house we can blow up 1044 00:45:32,868 --> 00:45:34,283 around here unless you can find one." 1045 00:45:34,386 --> 00:45:36,837 -There were snipers in the top of the projects 1046 00:45:36,941 --> 00:45:38,149 shooting at our furniture, 1047 00:45:38,252 --> 00:45:40,151 so we called the police and they said, 1048 00:45:40,254 --> 00:45:42,084 this is the day after New Year's. 1049 00:45:42,187 --> 00:45:44,086 They won't come down from their high for five days. 1050 00:45:44,189 --> 00:45:47,779 They finally stopped, but it was really scary. 1051 00:45:47,883 --> 00:45:50,195 -The first time I actually worked on set 1052 00:45:50,299 --> 00:45:52,888 with any Chucky parts was the Eddie Caputo scene. 1053 00:45:52,991 --> 00:45:54,268 I was doing the first hand 1054 00:45:54,372 --> 00:45:56,167 that actually comes around the corner 1055 00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:57,824 and reaches around the door and kind of opens the door 1056 00:45:57,927 --> 00:45:59,791 a little bit, and then my other puppeteer, 1057 00:45:59,895 --> 00:46:02,035 Lauren, would turn the dial, turn the gas on. 1058 00:46:02,138 --> 00:46:03,519 -That was all staged stuff. 1059 00:46:03,622 --> 00:46:04,934 We probably spent like, you know, 1060 00:46:05,038 --> 00:46:07,109 five hours of a Chucky hand turning. 1061 00:46:07,212 --> 00:46:09,111 -I don't think we care so much 1062 00:46:09,214 --> 00:46:11,561 about what's going to happen to Eddie Caputo. 1063 00:46:11,665 --> 00:46:13,184 -He hears something in the kitchen, 1064 00:46:13,287 --> 00:46:15,289 and goes and throws open the door and fires. 1065 00:46:15,393 --> 00:46:19,811 -Because of Andy's presence there and his proximity 1066 00:46:19,915 --> 00:46:22,158 to this imminent explosion, 1067 00:46:22,262 --> 00:46:24,609 I think it's very suspenseful. 1068 00:46:24,712 --> 00:46:32,997 -Chucky. 1069 00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:34,550 -The explosion was fantastic. 1070 00:46:34,653 --> 00:46:37,553 I mean, we, you know, we shot with Alex outside. 1071 00:46:37,656 --> 00:46:41,177 -It was pretty scary because the explosion almost threw Andy 1072 00:46:41,281 --> 00:46:45,112 into a trench we had built, but thank God he wasn't hurt. 1073 00:46:45,216 --> 00:46:48,253 -It was fun to film and it was really fun to watch. 1074 00:46:48,357 --> 00:46:49,772 -I knew they were going to blow it up, 1075 00:46:49,876 --> 00:46:51,256 but I was like, wow. 1076 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,433 -You know, I had just graduated, uh, film school. 1077 00:46:55,536 --> 00:47:00,887 And I ended up getting a job on, uh, "Child's Play" 1078 00:47:00,990 --> 00:47:02,440 As a production assistant. 1079 00:47:02,543 --> 00:47:05,961 Yes, we blew up an actual building that existed, 1080 00:47:06,064 --> 00:47:08,308 which, you know, how amazing was that? 1081 00:47:08,411 --> 00:47:10,068 -The explosion was so much bigger 1082 00:47:10,172 --> 00:47:11,725 than anything we ever intended. 1083 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:13,382 -So that was a very memorable moment, 1084 00:47:13,485 --> 00:47:15,694 and I'm glad I was alive after it. 1085 00:47:15,798 --> 00:47:19,526 -Nobody believes you about Chucky. 1086 00:47:19,629 --> 00:47:21,424 Unless you start telling the truth 1087 00:47:21,528 --> 00:47:25,394 right now, they're going to take you away from me. 1088 00:47:25,497 --> 00:47:27,845 -So Catherine comes home from the police station. 1089 00:47:27,948 --> 00:47:29,881 The cops are keeping her little boy, 1090 00:47:29,985 --> 00:47:32,159 thinking that somehow he killed somebody. 1091 00:47:32,263 --> 00:47:35,162 And she comes home and sees the Good Guy box there. 1092 00:47:35,266 --> 00:47:37,233 -There's a brilliant reveal when 1093 00:47:37,337 --> 00:47:41,341 the batteries that power the doll fall out of the box, 1094 00:47:41,444 --> 00:47:43,757 and then you're left with only one 1095 00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:45,414 possible conclusion. 1096 00:47:45,517 --> 00:47:47,968 -It's great, and I do like to take credit for that. 1097 00:47:48,072 --> 00:47:49,452 That was in my script. 1098 00:47:49,556 --> 00:47:51,627 -But the doll has been talking this whole time. 1099 00:47:51,730 --> 00:47:53,284 -[Gasps] What? 1100 00:47:53,387 --> 00:47:55,700 -I think it's just being in the character. 1101 00:47:55,803 --> 00:47:57,150 You're like, oh my, what? 1102 00:47:57,253 --> 00:48:00,394 And then you play ignorance, confusion. 1103 00:48:00,498 --> 00:48:04,226 -She picks up the doll and she slowly puts her finger 1104 00:48:04,329 --> 00:48:08,471 underneath the case for the battery and pulls it open. 1105 00:48:08,575 --> 00:48:10,922 And the audience is on the edge of their seat. 1106 00:48:11,026 --> 00:48:12,510 -And it's empty. 1107 00:48:12,613 --> 00:48:14,581 -That's shocking moment always got a big gasp 1108 00:48:14,684 --> 00:48:16,169 from everybody in the audience. 1109 00:48:16,272 --> 00:48:20,725 -In that brief second, the doll swings its head around. 1110 00:48:20,828 --> 00:48:22,900 -Hi, I'm Chucky. Want to play? 1111 00:48:23,003 --> 00:48:24,246 -[Screams] 1112 00:48:24,349 --> 00:48:25,972 -I didn't know how to do that shot 1113 00:48:26,075 --> 00:48:28,526 because I tried to put monofilament on the doll 1114 00:48:28,629 --> 00:48:31,115 so when it when it dropped I could have the gaffer 1115 00:48:31,218 --> 00:48:33,220 or somebody yank it under the couch, 1116 00:48:33,324 --> 00:48:34,842 but it never looked right. 1117 00:48:34,946 --> 00:48:36,327 -We tried and it just wasn't working. 1118 00:48:36,430 --> 00:48:38,087 It was really kind of goofy looking. 1119 00:48:38,191 --> 00:48:40,158 -And we just couldn't figure out a way to do it. 1120 00:48:40,262 --> 00:48:42,160 -And Bill Butler, the cinematographer, 1121 00:48:42,264 --> 00:48:43,748 said, I know how to do it, 1122 00:48:43,851 --> 00:48:47,200 and he put the floor on a 30 degree angle like that. 1123 00:48:47,303 --> 00:48:49,719 -I, of course, lost my mind because I'm like 1124 00:48:49,823 --> 00:48:52,999 Bill Butler shot "Jaws," the greatest movie ever made. 1125 00:48:53,102 --> 00:48:54,690 -They were able to take the couch 1126 00:48:54,793 --> 00:48:56,312 and put it on a rug platform 1127 00:48:56,416 --> 00:48:58,245 and just tilt it up enough. So when she dropped it, 1128 00:48:58,349 --> 00:48:59,971 you couldn't tell that it was tilted 1129 00:49:00,075 --> 00:49:03,492 but it would roll under and it works great. 1130 00:49:03,595 --> 00:49:07,013 -Karen leans down to look for him under the couch, 1131 00:49:07,116 --> 00:49:11,603 leading with your face to look for Chucky down low. 1132 00:49:11,707 --> 00:49:15,883 Bad idea, but it's great. It's really suspense inducing. 1133 00:49:15,987 --> 00:49:17,368 -The audience went wild. 1134 00:49:17,471 --> 00:49:20,095 It was really, really exciting to see that. 1135 00:49:20,198 --> 00:49:22,752 -I would personally pretend it's a snake 1136 00:49:22,856 --> 00:49:24,340 because I'm terrified of snakes. 1137 00:49:24,444 --> 00:49:26,411 -She pulls the doll out and the doll 1138 00:49:26,515 --> 00:49:28,758 doesn't do anything, and she lifts it up. 1139 00:49:28,862 --> 00:49:30,933 -I said talk to me, damn it, or else I'm gonna throw 1140 00:49:31,037 --> 00:49:32,762 you in the fire. -And then, of course, 1141 00:49:32,866 --> 00:49:37,250 just the torrent of filth that pours out of this doll's mouth. 1142 00:49:37,353 --> 00:49:39,907 -You stupid bitch! You filthy slut! 1143 00:49:40,011 --> 00:49:42,082 I'll teach you to fuck with me! -[Screaming] 1144 00:49:42,186 --> 00:49:43,635 -And that's one of those moments. 1145 00:49:43,739 --> 00:49:45,568 You have to hit that with everything you have. 1146 00:49:45,672 --> 00:49:48,157 That had to be big. That really had to be. 1147 00:49:48,261 --> 00:49:49,745 -You just get angry 1148 00:49:49,848 --> 00:49:52,851 and you're just sort of fight to get him off you, 1149 00:49:52,955 --> 00:49:55,958 as you would in a scene with a bad guy. 1150 00:49:56,062 --> 00:49:58,133 -That's a very important part of storytelling. 1151 00:49:58,236 --> 00:50:00,066 -It gets a big wow from the audience. 1152 00:50:00,169 --> 00:50:01,999 -And we knew that was going to be an iconic moment. 1153 00:50:02,102 --> 00:50:03,414 -Your job is to make it work. 1154 00:50:03,517 --> 00:50:05,312 You have to block out the cables 1155 00:50:05,416 --> 00:50:08,419 when you got him up there, you just you do your job 1156 00:50:08,522 --> 00:50:12,319 and deal with the terror of those icy blue eyes. 1157 00:50:12,423 --> 00:50:14,252 -She was always up for the task. 1158 00:50:14,356 --> 00:50:15,805 She had to work really, really hard. 1159 00:50:15,909 --> 00:50:17,290 We really went at it. 1160 00:50:17,393 --> 00:50:18,567 "Punch me in the face with the Chucky." 1161 00:50:18,670 --> 00:50:20,500 -You become part of the Chucky team. 1162 00:50:20,603 --> 00:50:25,229 We have to make this a live doll believable to the audience. 1163 00:50:25,332 --> 00:50:28,232 -I think my favorite moments in the film are right there. 1164 00:50:28,335 --> 00:50:31,545 -I didn't, in my script, reveal the doll fully alive 1165 00:50:31,649 --> 00:50:34,583 until that was like the curtain opener for the third act, 1166 00:50:34,686 --> 00:50:39,036 and Tom probably smartly brought that earlier. 1167 00:50:39,139 --> 00:50:40,416 -That's the beginning of the end. 1168 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,729 It's sort of the end of innocence. 1169 00:50:42,832 --> 00:50:45,249 [Screams] 1170 00:50:45,352 --> 00:50:46,940 -Karen is really vulnerable 1171 00:50:47,044 --> 00:50:49,287 and isn't going to find any help because there's something 1172 00:50:49,391 --> 00:50:51,013 so ridiculous about it. 1173 00:50:51,117 --> 00:50:52,842 -One of the difficulties with playing 1174 00:50:52,946 --> 00:50:54,396 a character like Mike Norris 1175 00:50:54,499 --> 00:50:57,226 is that the audience knows what the real deal is. 1176 00:50:57,330 --> 00:51:00,471 -Working with Chris Sarandon was so easy, 1177 00:51:00,574 --> 00:51:03,370 and he has this ability to be very comforting, 1178 00:51:03,474 --> 00:51:06,477 and he's just calm and he's really cool. 1179 00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:09,204 Chucky is alive and he killed Eddie Caputo. 1180 00:51:09,307 --> 00:51:10,860 -What? -You just play it straight 1181 00:51:10,964 --> 00:51:12,172 because it is serious. 1182 00:51:12,276 --> 00:51:14,312 It is about a little boy getting killed 1183 00:51:14,416 --> 00:51:15,969 and me getting killed. 1184 00:51:16,073 --> 00:51:17,384 And I think Chris did a really good job. 1185 00:51:17,488 --> 00:51:20,284 -My job as an actor in moments like that 1186 00:51:20,387 --> 00:51:22,355 is to remain the skeptic. 1187 00:51:22,458 --> 00:51:26,255 If he doesn't, then the belief in the situation 1188 00:51:26,359 --> 00:51:27,325 goes out the window. 1189 00:51:27,429 --> 00:51:29,016 Good night, Mrs. Barclay. 1190 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,571 -One of the things that I disagreed with about the script 1191 00:51:31,674 --> 00:51:36,231 is that the audience is ahead of Karen Barclay. 1192 00:51:36,334 --> 00:51:38,198 She's forced to do scenes where she, like, 1193 00:51:38,302 --> 00:51:39,648 goes to Chris Sarandon and goes... 1194 00:51:39,751 --> 00:51:41,581 -He's been moving and talking for days. 1195 00:51:41,684 --> 00:51:43,962 -Without any batteries in him. -What are you talking about? 1196 00:51:44,066 --> 00:51:45,516 - In retrospect, when I see that, 1197 00:51:45,619 --> 00:51:48,898 I wished I tapped into a more specific, 1198 00:51:49,002 --> 00:51:52,695 real personal thing in my life to make it deeper and more real. 1199 00:51:52,799 --> 00:51:57,217 So I confess that wasn't my best moment. 1200 00:51:57,321 --> 00:52:00,565 -It's not enough. What else you got? 1201 00:52:00,669 --> 00:52:03,396 -That's all I've got. -All you got? 1202 00:52:03,499 --> 00:52:05,156 -What? -The thing about shooting 1203 00:52:05,260 --> 00:52:08,055 the scene where I attempt to assault Catherine 1204 00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:09,574 is that it is on my turf. 1205 00:52:09,678 --> 00:52:12,267 -I'm feeling sorry for the homeless here 1206 00:52:12,370 --> 00:52:14,614 all around this freezing night in the fires, 1207 00:52:14,717 --> 00:52:19,412 and then I just don't expect that from him. 1208 00:52:19,515 --> 00:52:21,586 And, I mean, that's just, oh, God. 1209 00:52:21,690 --> 00:52:24,796 Another horrible thing that's happened in our lives. 1210 00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:26,591 -It was scary. I mean, it's like, you know, 1211 00:52:26,695 --> 00:52:29,629 you really feel the danger in that scene 1212 00:52:29,732 --> 00:52:32,494 because it does go beyond me assaulting her. 1213 00:52:32,597 --> 00:52:34,323 It goes beyond whether or not 1214 00:52:34,427 --> 00:52:36,118 she's going to be making it out of there alive. 1215 00:52:36,222 --> 00:52:37,637 -It's incomprehensible, 1216 00:52:37,740 --> 00:52:39,777 and I'm powerless and there's no one around. 1217 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,227 -Help! 1218 00:52:41,330 --> 00:52:42,538 -Hey. -[Groans] 1219 00:52:42,642 --> 00:52:44,506 -Christ, he's a cop. -Alright. 1220 00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:46,128 What about the rest of you? 1221 00:52:46,232 --> 00:52:47,267 You want a party, too?! 1222 00:52:47,371 --> 00:52:48,958 -The detective saves the day. 1223 00:52:49,062 --> 00:52:53,170 So I definitely think Karen will marry him after the movie. 1224 00:52:53,273 --> 00:52:55,413 -I remember Juan Ramirez very well. 1225 00:52:55,517 --> 00:52:57,070 I can actually see his face. 1226 00:52:57,174 --> 00:53:00,177 He had such a kind of, you know, physical "corpability." 1227 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,040 I mean, he was really quite extraordinary. 1228 00:53:02,144 --> 00:53:05,285 -I am telling you the truth. Why won't you believe me? 1229 00:53:05,389 --> 00:53:08,392 -I find scenes like that to be tricky. 1230 00:53:08,495 --> 00:53:10,048 You know, where responsible 1231 00:53:10,152 --> 00:53:12,672 adults are like talking nonsense. 1232 00:53:12,775 --> 00:53:15,640 -Because I'm saying, Mrs. Barclay, sane and rational. 1233 00:53:15,744 --> 00:53:18,160 One of the difficulties with playing a character 1234 00:53:18,264 --> 00:53:19,748 like Mike Norris is that, 1235 00:53:19,851 --> 00:53:22,647 in a way, he's the person who has to be convinced. 1236 00:53:22,751 --> 00:53:25,926 -It's just so frustrating to convince 1237 00:53:26,030 --> 00:53:27,480 someone that something happened. 1238 00:53:27,583 --> 00:53:30,034 -For the last time, Mrs. Barclay, good night. 1239 00:53:30,137 --> 00:53:31,656 -Oh, my. Damn! [Bangs on car] 1240 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:37,869 -And I think Catherine and Chris totally sold that stuff. 1241 00:53:37,973 --> 00:53:41,321 I think that the scene when Chucky attacks Mike Norris 1242 00:53:41,425 --> 00:53:43,358 in the car is exciting. 1243 00:53:43,461 --> 00:53:45,946 -I have a very vivid memory of Chucky in the car. 1244 00:53:46,050 --> 00:53:48,155 -And all of a sudden, Chucky comes up behind him 1245 00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:51,987 and tries to strangle him with the wires while he's driving. 1246 00:53:52,090 --> 00:53:55,024 -[Screams, grunts] 1247 00:53:55,128 --> 00:53:56,647 -Good night, asshole. 1248 00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:59,822 -We used about everything that we had in that car sequence 1249 00:53:59,926 --> 00:54:01,583 and it turned out fantastic. 1250 00:54:01,686 --> 00:54:04,413 -I think that was probably the best sequence in the movie. 1251 00:54:04,517 --> 00:54:06,035 It was really scary. 1252 00:54:06,139 --> 00:54:09,246 -Aah! [Grunting] 1253 00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:12,421 -That blade comes up between his legs. 1254 00:54:12,525 --> 00:54:16,563 Every male in that audience went, "Aah!" 1255 00:54:16,667 --> 00:54:20,326 -I still get men coming up to me and saying, "Man, 1256 00:54:20,429 --> 00:54:21,706 you know that scene with the knife 1257 00:54:21,810 --> 00:54:24,295 is coming up between your nuts? Jesus!" 1258 00:54:24,399 --> 00:54:27,436 -[Screaming] 1259 00:54:27,540 --> 00:54:29,818 -What was going on visually 1260 00:54:29,921 --> 00:54:32,924 influenced my vocal performance in that case. 1261 00:54:33,028 --> 00:54:35,962 The puppeteers did really well, I thought, in that. 1262 00:54:36,065 --> 00:54:37,791 [Horns honking] -Aah! 1263 00:54:37,895 --> 00:54:39,276 -Geez! Look out! 1264 00:54:39,379 --> 00:54:43,176 -There's a lot of action-movie DNA -- 1265 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,630 car chases and explosions and cops. 1266 00:54:48,733 --> 00:54:54,463 -Aaaah! 1267 00:54:54,567 --> 00:54:56,327 -So the sequence where Chris Sarandon 1268 00:54:56,431 --> 00:54:58,605 gets into the car accident, the car flips over, 1269 00:54:58,709 --> 00:55:01,367 all that wide stuff was shot in Chicago. 1270 00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:05,025 -We actually took out a Panasonic camera in that scene 1271 00:55:05,129 --> 00:55:07,407 because the car skidded on its roof further 1272 00:55:07,511 --> 00:55:08,822 than any of us thought, 1273 00:55:08,926 --> 00:55:11,204 and we had a camera there shooting the scene 1274 00:55:11,308 --> 00:55:13,689 and it wiped out the camera. 1275 00:55:13,793 --> 00:55:16,382 -Hi, Mikey! 1276 00:55:16,485 --> 00:55:19,730 -There were so many sort of vivid, iconic, in a way, 1277 00:55:19,833 --> 00:55:22,008 moments that occurred in that scene. 1278 00:55:22,111 --> 00:55:24,735 -We built a little, you know, street, lit it, 1279 00:55:24,838 --> 00:55:26,461 wet down the pavement like you do in movies. 1280 00:55:26,564 --> 00:55:28,635 And Chris was fantastic. He's upside down. 1281 00:55:28,739 --> 00:55:30,534 He never complained about any of that stuff. 1282 00:55:30,637 --> 00:55:32,777 -Yeah, well, it wasn't fun. 1283 00:55:32,881 --> 00:55:35,297 -We had an elevated platform that had the street 1284 00:55:35,401 --> 00:55:36,747 and all the surroundings, 1285 00:55:36,850 --> 00:55:39,681 and we did a combination of using the half puppet 1286 00:55:39,784 --> 00:55:42,891 and then a little person actor, and we built a suit. 1287 00:55:42,994 --> 00:55:44,513 -I also made the costumes 1288 00:55:44,617 --> 00:55:46,688 for the human stand-in little person. 1289 00:55:46,791 --> 00:55:48,897 -And then we used a Bunraku method, 1290 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,349 where we put one of our stuffed dolls in front on rods 1291 00:55:52,452 --> 00:55:54,385 that hooked to a puppeteer's legs. 1292 00:55:54,489 --> 00:55:56,491 -[Grunts] 1293 00:55:56,594 --> 00:55:58,216 -They thought maybe this wouldn't cut together 1294 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,598 because inside, outside, upside down car, 1295 00:56:00,702 --> 00:56:02,980 how's this going to work, but it all cut together beautifully. 1296 00:56:03,083 --> 00:56:06,708 -Almost every scene was a composite of different shots 1297 00:56:06,811 --> 00:56:07,916 to fool the eye. 1298 00:56:08,019 --> 00:56:10,712 -And that's all piecemeal, put together 1299 00:56:10,815 --> 00:56:13,853 piece by piece by piece by Tom and his team. 1300 00:56:13,956 --> 00:56:15,958 -[Screams] 1301 00:56:16,062 --> 00:56:17,891 Aaaaaah! 1302 00:56:17,995 --> 00:56:22,689 -After Chucky attacks Detective Mike Norris in his car, 1303 00:56:22,793 --> 00:56:26,900 the very fabric of reality as he knows it has been torn asunder. 1304 00:56:27,004 --> 00:56:29,040 ♪♪ 1305 00:56:29,144 --> 00:56:33,010 -Walking in that set with all the voodoo, that is so creepy. 1306 00:56:33,113 --> 00:56:36,393 It's so pagan, and, you know, like a devil church. 1307 00:56:36,496 --> 00:56:38,256 -And Chris appears and taps her shoulder 1308 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,568 and scares the hell out of her. 1309 00:56:39,672 --> 00:56:40,776 -Karen. -[Gasps] 1310 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,468 -He has this, you would think, 1311 00:56:42,571 --> 00:56:45,540 very memorable interaction with this killer doll, 1312 00:56:45,643 --> 00:56:48,301 and one would presume would probably be experiencing 1313 00:56:48,405 --> 00:56:50,441 some kind of existential crisis. 1314 00:56:50,545 --> 00:56:54,928 And yet, when he meets Karen, he doesn't say it. 1315 00:56:55,032 --> 00:56:57,483 -She's in Charles Lee Ray's apartment 1316 00:56:57,586 --> 00:57:00,451 and the walls are covered with voodoo signs. 1317 00:57:00,555 --> 00:57:03,454 It was in there and the dialog was trimmed. 1318 00:57:03,558 --> 00:57:05,629 -You know, that's a very interesting point, 1319 00:57:05,732 --> 00:57:08,597 that he now knows Chucky 'cause he attacked him, 1320 00:57:08,701 --> 00:57:10,565 and he doesn't tell me that. 1321 00:57:10,668 --> 00:57:13,775 -These are called "don't ask" moments. 1322 00:57:13,878 --> 00:57:17,019 And as an actor, you just have to go with the flow. 1323 00:57:17,123 --> 00:57:19,332 -I'm surprised more people haven't noticed that. 1324 00:57:19,436 --> 00:57:21,610 Why wouldn't he say, "I believe you now"? 1325 00:57:21,714 --> 00:57:23,888 That would have been a great moment. 1326 00:57:23,992 --> 00:57:25,234 -Hi. 1327 00:57:25,338 --> 00:57:27,409 It's me. Chucky. 1328 00:57:27,513 --> 00:57:28,755 What do you think? 1329 00:57:28,859 --> 00:57:30,377 -I have to get myself out of that, 1330 00:57:30,481 --> 00:57:31,758 or I'm stuck in the doll. 1331 00:57:31,862 --> 00:57:36,107 -The more time you spend in that body, 1332 00:57:36,211 --> 00:57:37,661 the more human you become. 1333 00:57:37,764 --> 00:57:39,490 -That's what he is scared of, 1334 00:57:39,594 --> 00:57:41,872 by making him terrified of oblivion. 1335 00:57:41,975 --> 00:57:43,770 That was where all of his anger came from. 1336 00:57:43,874 --> 00:57:46,463 And that's why you can't negotiate with him. He means it. 1337 00:57:46,566 --> 00:57:48,568 -You got me into this. You get me out. 1338 00:57:48,672 --> 00:57:50,328 -I can't do that, Chucky. 1339 00:57:50,432 --> 00:57:52,883 -I built Dr. Death's kitchen oversized, 1340 00:57:52,986 --> 00:57:55,782 and I put a little person in the Chucky suit. 1341 00:57:55,886 --> 00:57:58,509 And I had him play a scene with Dr. Death 1342 00:57:58,613 --> 00:58:01,201 because he could move up and down the counter. 1343 00:58:01,305 --> 00:58:04,411 -The production designer built us -- built sets 1344 00:58:04,515 --> 00:58:06,137 that were 30% larger. 1345 00:58:06,241 --> 00:58:08,968 -And I had him throwing dishes, and it was a terrific scene. 1346 00:58:09,071 --> 00:58:11,384 -And they ended up, you know, cutting all of that. 1347 00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:14,560 -You know, I thought something like this might happen. 1348 00:58:14,663 --> 00:58:16,389 That's why I prepared for it. 1349 00:58:16,493 --> 00:58:17,804 -What are you talking about? 1350 00:58:17,908 --> 00:58:20,289 -So the sequence where we kill Dr. Death, 1351 00:58:20,393 --> 00:58:21,498 that was a long shoot. 1352 00:58:21,601 --> 00:58:23,085 -Today you'd probably do it all CG. 1353 00:58:23,189 --> 00:58:24,949 But there was something magical about the puppet. 1354 00:58:25,053 --> 00:58:28,366 -There was real specifics, and we utilized all the puppets. 1355 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:29,747 And there was a lot of rigging, 1356 00:58:29,851 --> 00:58:31,611 a lot of trickery that we had to do. 1357 00:58:31,715 --> 00:58:33,958 -We also had to build a Dr. Death voodoo doll, 1358 00:58:34,062 --> 00:58:36,409 which my older brother Jeff, who's a sculptor, 1359 00:58:36,513 --> 00:58:38,584 sculpted the head to match the actor. 1360 00:58:38,687 --> 00:58:41,241 -Your own personal mojo, Doc. 1361 00:58:41,345 --> 00:58:43,174 -Give me that. 1362 00:58:43,278 --> 00:58:46,108 -He has the voodoo doll there, and it's in his hands. 1363 00:58:46,212 --> 00:58:49,802 -I think that is one of the first iconic moments 1364 00:58:49,905 --> 00:58:52,805 of the franchise, is Chucky causing this horrible, 1365 00:58:52,908 --> 00:58:55,324 torturous death to someone. 1366 00:58:55,428 --> 00:58:58,120 -[Groaning] -[Laughs] 1367 00:58:58,224 --> 00:59:01,434 -Yeah. -[Groans] 1368 00:59:01,538 --> 00:59:03,022 -It's been fun. 1369 00:59:03,125 --> 00:59:06,922 -Why he's able to kill Dr. Death is because he can 1370 00:59:07,026 --> 00:59:11,340 and he fucking well feels like it. 1371 00:59:11,444 --> 00:59:13,101 -Oh, my God. 1372 00:59:13,204 --> 00:59:14,723 -I had to leave him alive 1373 00:59:14,827 --> 00:59:16,967 so Dr. Death could tell Catherine and Chris. 1374 00:59:17,070 --> 00:59:21,868 -It's the only way -- through the heart. 1375 00:59:21,972 --> 00:59:24,871 -It's very creepy, and it's a bit of a spooky scene. 1376 00:59:24,975 --> 00:59:28,116 -And that propels you into your third act. 1377 00:59:28,219 --> 00:59:32,016 -There is a scene when Alex is in a mental facility. 1378 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,261 -I found an insane asylum that had been abandoned 1379 00:59:35,364 --> 00:59:36,676 outside of Chicago. 1380 00:59:36,780 --> 00:59:38,471 It was built in the 1800s, 1381 00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:41,301 which is one of the scariest places I have ever been into. 1382 00:59:41,405 --> 00:59:43,545 -The building was very imposing I remember. 1383 00:59:43,649 --> 00:59:45,720 It looked very kind of institutional. 1384 00:59:45,823 --> 00:59:48,274 -I was looking at the set of where Andy was 1385 00:59:48,377 --> 00:59:49,724 and I was like, "Jesus, 1386 00:59:49,827 --> 00:59:51,173 this looks like Frankenstein's dungeon." 1387 00:59:51,277 --> 00:59:53,900 -The first time all the puppeteers came together 1388 00:59:54,004 --> 00:59:56,869 as one was a shot where Chucky is walking outside, 1389 00:59:56,972 --> 00:59:59,457 which was literally wired to this ledge, 1390 00:59:59,561 --> 01:00:02,426 and Andy looks down and he sees, here comes Chucky. 1391 01:00:02,529 --> 01:00:04,152 -He calls out for help. 1392 01:00:04,255 --> 01:00:08,432 -Help me, help me! Dr. Ardmore, Chucky's here! 1393 01:00:08,535 --> 01:00:09,882 -It's the scene where he has to cry. 1394 01:00:09,985 --> 01:00:12,574 I was really worried about how is this kid 1395 01:00:12,678 --> 01:00:14,749 going to show deep emotions? 1396 01:00:14,852 --> 01:00:17,717 -I was concerned because we have a six year old 1397 01:00:17,821 --> 01:00:19,754 that we're dealing with, and my job 1398 01:00:19,857 --> 01:00:21,859 is to teach him during the day, 1399 01:00:21,963 --> 01:00:25,760 and also to make sure that his welfare is taken care of. 1400 01:00:25,863 --> 01:00:28,694 -The hardest part of making the first film 1401 01:00:28,797 --> 01:00:32,042 was probably the anxiety leading up to that crying scene. 1402 01:00:32,145 --> 01:00:34,700 -[Crying] Please don't leave me. Please. 1403 01:00:34,803 --> 01:00:36,909 -I think everybody else's memory 1404 01:00:37,012 --> 01:00:39,359 was that Tom was being a little harsh with me. 1405 01:00:39,463 --> 01:00:41,638 -There was a certain controversy about that. 1406 01:00:41,741 --> 01:00:44,019 -We were talking about things like my parents 1407 01:00:44,123 --> 01:00:45,918 getting divorced and things like that. 1408 01:00:46,021 --> 01:00:48,955 -Well, in order to get that heartbreaking truth, 1409 01:00:49,059 --> 01:00:52,821 it had to be made real to the young actor and it was. 1410 01:00:52,925 --> 01:00:55,617 -We spoke with him about what was going to happen 1411 01:00:55,721 --> 01:00:58,102 and -- and the sadness that he would feel. 1412 01:00:58,206 --> 01:01:00,553 -Alex has a very soft voice, you know, 1413 01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,037 and he couldn't get the volume up. 1414 01:01:02,141 --> 01:01:03,832 And I hear Tom on the other side of the stage, 1415 01:01:03,936 --> 01:01:05,523 "I can't hear you, damn it, 1416 01:01:05,627 --> 01:01:07,111 I can't hear you, Alex! Louder!" 1417 01:01:07,215 --> 01:01:08,699 And he would get louder and louder and louder. 1418 01:01:08,803 --> 01:01:10,252 -So I kept having him do it, 1419 01:01:10,356 --> 01:01:14,015 and I had him do it again and again and again. 1420 01:01:14,118 --> 01:01:15,879 "You got to do this. We need this. 1421 01:01:15,982 --> 01:01:19,710 I got to have you go to tears. You got to cry. Again. 1422 01:01:19,814 --> 01:01:21,816 No, you didn't go to tears. Again." 1423 01:01:21,919 --> 01:01:24,715 He got so upset that he went to tears. 1424 01:01:24,819 --> 01:01:26,406 And you really feel for him. 1425 01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:29,168 -Part of me says, do what you need to get the moment. 1426 01:01:29,271 --> 01:01:31,273 But the director knew information 1427 01:01:31,377 --> 01:01:35,381 and was screaming out about this little boy's home life 1428 01:01:35,484 --> 01:01:36,796 and got him to cry. 1429 01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:38,384 -It was kind of the anxiety, 1430 01:01:38,487 --> 01:01:40,731 the moment that really helped me start crying. 1431 01:01:40,835 --> 01:01:42,768 -And I turned to his mother and said, 1432 01:01:42,871 --> 01:01:45,632 "We can stop this if you're uncomfortable with this, 1433 01:01:45,736 --> 01:01:47,393 because he's crying." 1434 01:01:47,496 --> 01:01:50,810 And she said, "No, no, it's -- it's fine, it's fine. 1435 01:01:50,914 --> 01:01:53,157 This is what he needs to get to that point." 1436 01:01:53,261 --> 01:01:54,607 -The cry was real. 1437 01:01:54,711 --> 01:01:56,816 I mean, it was just he started slipping down that door 1438 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,266 and broke into -- into tears. 1439 01:01:58,369 --> 01:01:59,888 And it was a, you know, wonderful moment. 1440 01:01:59,992 --> 01:02:01,579 -And I remember saying, "It's okay, Tom, 1441 01:02:01,683 --> 01:02:03,202 I'll keep crying," and my memory of it 1442 01:02:03,305 --> 01:02:05,756 was that he was just a very intense kind of on set. 1443 01:02:05,860 --> 01:02:08,759 And -- And then afterwards, you know, when we weren't on set, 1444 01:02:08,863 --> 01:02:10,588 he was much more gentle and sweet. 1445 01:02:10,692 --> 01:02:12,556 But I think it was maybe a lot of pressure. 1446 01:02:12,659 --> 01:02:14,006 -Alex is great in the scene 1447 01:02:14,109 --> 01:02:15,870 and doesn't seem to have suffered from it. 1448 01:02:15,973 --> 01:02:17,837 -Ultimately, it didn't go on that long. 1449 01:02:17,941 --> 01:02:19,874 It was a small moment. I think it's fine. 1450 01:02:19,977 --> 01:02:21,634 -We were concerned that Alex might turn 1451 01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:25,189 into a serial killer later in life after this experience, 1452 01:02:25,293 --> 01:02:27,502 but obviously he hasn't, so that's great. 1453 01:02:27,605 --> 01:02:30,712 -That's absolutely true. There's no -- There's no, uh -- Yeah. 1454 01:02:30,816 --> 01:02:34,233 ♪♪ 1455 01:02:34,336 --> 01:02:36,822 -Chucky comes around and he sees one of the attendants, 1456 01:02:36,925 --> 01:02:37,961 you know, at his desk. 1457 01:02:38,064 --> 01:02:40,170 -At the kickoff party, 1458 01:02:40,273 --> 01:02:42,689 Tom, the director, turned and was like, 1459 01:02:42,793 --> 01:02:45,140 okay, I'm going to give you a chance to act 1460 01:02:45,244 --> 01:02:46,901 and you can be the orderly. 1461 01:02:47,004 --> 01:02:49,593 I went from PA to the part of the orderly 1462 01:02:49,696 --> 01:02:52,561 for one night of non-PA abuse. 1463 01:02:52,665 --> 01:02:54,184 And I had my big scene 1464 01:02:54,287 --> 01:02:57,049 and it was like my Ralph Kramden moment where I was like. 1465 01:02:57,152 --> 01:02:58,395 -Humina, humina, humina, humina, humina, I mean... 1466 01:02:58,498 --> 01:02:59,914 [Laughter] 1467 01:03:00,017 --> 01:03:04,366 -I get residual checks from that movie for $7 1468 01:03:04,470 --> 01:03:09,406 every two years from cable for my elbow. 1469 01:03:09,509 --> 01:03:11,926 -Andy stop! 1470 01:03:12,029 --> 01:03:13,479 -Wait a minute. -Stop him! 1471 01:03:13,582 --> 01:03:18,035 -I also loved the electrocution of Doctor Ardmore. 1472 01:03:18,139 --> 01:03:23,006 It corresponded to the scene in my "Blood Buddy" script 1473 01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:25,111 when buddy kills the dentist. 1474 01:03:25,215 --> 01:03:30,047 And it's also Chucky using a doctor's tools 1475 01:03:30,151 --> 01:03:31,877 of the trade against him. 1476 01:03:31,980 --> 01:03:34,914 -He's the doctor who thinks the little boy is mad, 1477 01:03:35,018 --> 01:03:37,365 and he wants to give him electric shocks, 1478 01:03:37,468 --> 01:03:38,607 and instead he gets it. 1479 01:03:38,711 --> 01:03:40,333 -There's something very funny to me 1480 01:03:40,437 --> 01:03:42,266 about the way it's shot. 1481 01:03:42,370 --> 01:03:45,925 Chucky slashes the doctor when he goes down, 1482 01:03:46,029 --> 01:03:47,237 and Chucky runs by him, 1483 01:03:47,340 --> 01:03:48,963 and he just pops this little hat on it. 1484 01:03:49,066 --> 01:03:50,896 It's almost like, "Here, wear this." 1485 01:03:50,999 --> 01:03:53,588 -Unless you see Chucky with your own eyes, 1486 01:03:53,691 --> 01:03:55,245 you'll never believe that he's alive. 1487 01:03:55,348 --> 01:03:57,419 And by the time you see that he's alive, 1488 01:03:57,523 --> 01:04:00,008 it's probably too late to ever tell anyone about it. 1489 01:04:00,112 --> 01:04:01,941 [Electricity crackles, Ardmore screaming] 1490 01:04:02,045 --> 01:04:03,632 -Yeah, there's like three guys on the face. 1491 01:04:03,736 --> 01:04:05,462 There's two guys on the arms. 1492 01:04:05,565 --> 01:04:08,154 There's a guy doing the body. There's a guy doing the head. 1493 01:04:08,258 --> 01:04:10,156 -[Laughing evilly] [Electricity crackling] 1494 01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:12,607 -When I put the electric shock things on the doctor, 1495 01:04:12,710 --> 01:04:17,025 I put blood in his eyes so that when he started to go to shock, 1496 01:04:17,129 --> 01:04:18,544 the eyes would look like they were bleeding. 1497 01:04:18,647 --> 01:04:19,925 -There were things they didn't want me to see. 1498 01:04:20,028 --> 01:04:21,236 Doctor Ardmore's death 1499 01:04:21,340 --> 01:04:22,859 when they were electrocuting him. 1500 01:04:22,962 --> 01:04:24,412 Even though it goes back to me. 1501 01:04:24,515 --> 01:04:27,035 -And just the fact that Andy is witnessing it. 1502 01:04:27,139 --> 01:04:28,865 Alex Vincent was great the way he's going. 1503 01:04:28,968 --> 01:04:31,315 -Stop! Stop! -[Ardmore groaning] 1504 01:04:31,419 --> 01:04:33,800 -If I'm not sharing the screen with anything, 1505 01:04:33,904 --> 01:04:35,078 I probably wasn't there. 1506 01:04:35,181 --> 01:04:36,907 So if it switched to my reaction, 1507 01:04:37,011 --> 01:04:38,391 they were able to keep me shielded 1508 01:04:38,495 --> 01:04:40,428 from some of the more gruesome things. 1509 01:04:40,531 --> 01:04:42,568 -We had an excellent social worker 1510 01:04:42,671 --> 01:04:44,018 on the set with a little boy, 1511 01:04:44,121 --> 01:04:45,295 and I'm sure she took him away 1512 01:04:45,398 --> 01:04:46,952 and protected him from all that. 1513 01:04:47,055 --> 01:04:48,885 -That's my important job, 1514 01:04:48,988 --> 01:04:51,197 and making sure that he goes to school 1515 01:04:51,301 --> 01:04:56,168 and that he is not impacted by this horror movie. 1516 01:04:56,271 --> 01:04:58,929 -There's a great scene when Chucky's going up 1517 01:04:59,033 --> 01:05:01,173 in a cage elevator, 1518 01:05:01,276 --> 01:05:03,175 and a woman comes in and she looks 1519 01:05:03,278 --> 01:05:04,693 at Chucky and she says -- 1520 01:05:04,797 --> 01:05:06,350 -"Ugly doll." 1521 01:05:06,454 --> 01:05:08,870 -Brad Dourif ad-libbed lines. I think he said, 1522 01:05:08,974 --> 01:05:11,045 -"Fuck you." That was my ad lib. 1523 01:05:11,148 --> 01:05:13,461 I just said, wait a minute. [Chuckles] 1524 01:05:13,564 --> 01:05:14,980 I think we need to do something here. 1525 01:05:15,083 --> 01:05:16,740 -That was brilliant because it fit 1526 01:05:16,843 --> 01:05:18,190 and it was appropriate. 1527 01:05:18,293 --> 01:05:20,364 It was really great. He's such a great actor. 1528 01:05:20,468 --> 01:05:22,194 -You know, I can't predict if it's going to get 1529 01:05:22,297 --> 01:05:24,541 a laugh or not, but I know if it's timed well. 1530 01:05:24,644 --> 01:05:27,268 -To me, that was the moment Chucky's personality was born, 1531 01:05:27,371 --> 01:05:30,547 a really important moment in the history of this film. 1532 01:05:30,650 --> 01:05:33,722 -Murder, mayhem and ad-libbed humor aside, 1533 01:05:33,826 --> 01:05:37,243 many on the production felt they had at last found their footing 1534 01:05:37,347 --> 01:05:40,557 just in time for the film's ultimate showdown. 1535 01:05:40,660 --> 01:05:41,972 [Film reel whirring] 1536 01:05:42,076 --> 01:05:45,148 -The U8 group wanted us to just end it. 1537 01:05:45,251 --> 01:05:46,908 -Tom got the entire crew together 1538 01:05:47,012 --> 01:05:48,289 and was asking us for ideas 1539 01:05:48,392 --> 01:05:50,015 because he was just kind of burnt. 1540 01:05:50,118 --> 01:05:51,878 -I was under such pressure about how to end it. 1541 01:05:51,982 --> 01:05:53,328 I originally wanted to end it 1542 01:05:53,432 --> 01:05:56,297 with Andy using his toys to fight Chucky, 1543 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,850 and there were all the toys around, 1544 01:05:57,954 --> 01:05:59,886 including al the battery-powered cars 1545 01:05:59,990 --> 01:06:01,164 and trucks and everything. 1546 01:06:01,267 --> 01:06:02,579 -Even though the details in my script 1547 01:06:02,682 --> 01:06:04,374 were somewhat different from what ended up 1548 01:06:04,477 --> 01:06:06,100 in Tom's version in the movie, 1549 01:06:06,203 --> 01:06:08,309 it's still the basically the same idea. 1550 01:06:08,412 --> 01:06:12,209 We're using childhood toys and games 1551 01:06:12,313 --> 01:06:14,211 as weapons and strategy. 1552 01:06:14,315 --> 01:06:16,006 -I got real tired of the house. 1553 01:06:16,110 --> 01:06:17,835 I thought, is the audience going to get tired 1554 01:06:17,939 --> 01:06:19,389 of all we do is in the house? 1555 01:06:19,492 --> 01:06:21,115 -It was towards the end of the shooting, 1556 01:06:21,218 --> 01:06:22,461 and Chucky was going to end up 1557 01:06:22,564 --> 01:06:24,221 on the roof at the end of the movie. 1558 01:06:24,325 --> 01:06:26,051 Financially, that became impossible, 1559 01:06:26,154 --> 01:06:27,673 so he needed to come up with a new ending. 1560 01:06:27,776 --> 01:06:32,229 -I wanted the final showdown to be in the home, 1561 01:06:32,333 --> 01:06:34,473 you know, recognizable milieu. 1562 01:06:34,576 --> 01:06:36,026 -Give me the power. 1563 01:06:36,130 --> 01:06:37,959 I beg of you. 1564 01:06:38,063 --> 01:06:39,167 -Andy! 1565 01:06:39,271 --> 01:06:41,790 -[Chucky chanting] 1566 01:06:41,894 --> 01:06:43,102 No! -[Screams] 1567 01:06:43,206 --> 01:06:45,035 -I think Karen, by being a mother, 1568 01:06:45,139 --> 01:06:47,555 is by nature strong and protective 1569 01:06:47,658 --> 01:06:49,281 and not a girly victim. 1570 01:06:49,384 --> 01:06:50,627 [Chucky grunts, knife slices] 1571 01:06:50,730 --> 01:06:52,249 -[Mike screaming] 1572 01:06:52,353 --> 01:06:55,459 -And he stabs Mike in the leg 1573 01:06:55,563 --> 01:06:57,599 and then Catherine Hicks has to take over. 1574 01:06:57,703 --> 01:06:59,946 -It was sort of fun. Karen gets to be, 1575 01:07:00,050 --> 01:07:01,603 you know, a badass a bit. 1576 01:07:01,707 --> 01:07:04,330 -One of my favorite scenes is when Chucky 1577 01:07:04,434 --> 01:07:07,264 is thrown into the fireplace and Chucky says, 1578 01:07:07,368 --> 01:07:09,508 -We're friends to the end, remember? 1579 01:07:09,611 --> 01:07:12,235 -I deliver a line which is one of the iconic lines 1580 01:07:12,338 --> 01:07:13,581 of the entire franchise. 1581 01:07:13,684 --> 01:07:16,584 This isthe end, friend. 1582 01:07:16,687 --> 01:07:18,896 When I shot that scene with Tom Holland 1583 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,726 and he really wanted that emphasis on 1584 01:07:20,829 --> 01:07:22,624 "This isthe end, friend," 1585 01:07:22,728 --> 01:07:25,110 And he grabbed me and picked me up and threw me up in the air 1586 01:07:25,213 --> 01:07:26,835 with excitement after I nailed it. 1587 01:07:26,939 --> 01:07:29,286 -We had a rod puppet in there that we could light on fire, 1588 01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:31,633 and we had rods coming out the back of the fireplace. 1589 01:07:31,737 --> 01:07:34,050 -The only thing that I didn't want to see on set 1590 01:07:34,153 --> 01:07:36,155 was them set Ed Gayle on fire. 1591 01:07:36,259 --> 01:07:38,019 I was afraid of something going wrong. 1592 01:07:38,123 --> 01:07:41,126 -That's Ed Gale in a Chucky costume. 1593 01:07:41,229 --> 01:07:43,507 -And now, go. Action! One! 1594 01:07:43,611 --> 01:07:46,407 -That was terrifying to me because he was on fire. 1595 01:07:46,510 --> 01:07:48,616 -[Screaming] 1596 01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:50,307 -We ended up lighting the Makita Chucky 1597 01:07:50,411 --> 01:07:51,619 on fire at the end, 1598 01:07:51,722 --> 01:07:53,276 and it was a self-contained Chucky 1599 01:07:53,379 --> 01:07:55,623 that kicked its hands and kicked its legs, 1600 01:07:55,726 --> 01:07:58,315 and the guys had taken a Makita drill apart 1601 01:07:58,419 --> 01:07:59,730 and the thing would spin. 1602 01:07:59,834 --> 01:08:01,111 It was super loud, 1603 01:08:01,215 --> 01:08:03,251 so all that stuff had to be ADRed later. 1604 01:08:03,355 --> 01:08:07,048 -ADR was a lot of screaming and yelling 1605 01:08:07,152 --> 01:08:08,360 and that kind of thing. 1606 01:08:08,463 --> 01:08:10,431 No! Ah! 1607 01:08:10,534 --> 01:08:13,537 [Screaming] 1608 01:08:13,641 --> 01:08:16,126 It was one of those things where before I did it, 1609 01:08:16,229 --> 01:08:18,404 the mic over there, I walked around the room 1610 01:08:18,508 --> 01:08:20,682 and I breathed for I don't know how long in that scene, 1611 01:08:20,786 --> 01:08:24,790 but it was forever that I was screaming in agony 1612 01:08:24,893 --> 01:08:28,033 at the top of my lungs. 1613 01:08:28,138 --> 01:08:29,587 -Oh, my baby. 1614 01:08:29,691 --> 01:08:32,694 The ending is relentless. There's no killing him. 1615 01:08:32,798 --> 01:08:34,696 And that is the horror of the movie. 1616 01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,184 -I think it was a really well orchestrated finale. 1617 01:08:39,287 --> 01:08:40,805 This was the beginning of showing 1618 01:08:40,908 --> 01:08:42,600 Chucky's indestructible side. 1619 01:08:42,703 --> 01:08:45,086 -Back in the 80s, you know, they never just killed anything. 1620 01:08:45,189 --> 01:08:46,639 So this followed suit. 1621 01:08:46,743 --> 01:08:48,124 -I'll be back. 1622 01:08:48,227 --> 01:08:51,403 -Chucky is very much the Terminator, 1623 01:08:51,506 --> 01:08:53,094 and nothing is stopping him. 1624 01:08:53,198 --> 01:08:54,509 -It's like the Terminator bunny. 1625 01:08:54,613 --> 01:08:56,372 [Gun zapping] 1626 01:08:56,477 --> 01:08:58,548 -Very Terminator inspired. 1627 01:08:58,651 --> 01:09:00,205 -Well, Chucky is a little mini Terminator. 1628 01:09:00,308 --> 01:09:01,377 -You can't kill him. 1629 01:09:01,482 --> 01:09:03,656 [Suspenseful music plays] 1630 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,175 -Hello, Andy. 1631 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:07,660 -I poured up a black foam latex skin of Chucky, 1632 01:09:07,764 --> 01:09:09,524 and I had to put it on the mechanism. 1633 01:09:09,627 --> 01:09:12,113 And then I physically took a torch and burned the parts 1634 01:09:12,216 --> 01:09:13,631 while they were on this mechanism. 1635 01:09:13,734 --> 01:09:15,944 -It's like, okay, well, we should stay tonight 1636 01:09:16,048 --> 01:09:18,326 and build all this stuff. We were on set. By the way. 1637 01:09:18,430 --> 01:09:20,466 Kevin and I worked through the night 1638 01:09:20,569 --> 01:09:23,089 to get all those skins ready, all the melted stuff. 1639 01:09:23,193 --> 01:09:24,676 -We added some silicone and different things 1640 01:09:24,781 --> 01:09:27,749 to make it look like it was half fleshy, half burnt. 1641 01:09:27,853 --> 01:09:29,924 It reminded me of "American Werewolf in London," 1642 01:09:30,027 --> 01:09:33,203 the Jack character at the end, he's rotting and falling apart. 1643 01:09:33,307 --> 01:09:35,240 He dies like 16 times, I think, in the end. 1644 01:09:35,343 --> 01:09:37,380 -Oh, be serious, would you? 1645 01:09:37,483 --> 01:09:39,209 -A lot happens to Chucky, you know. 1646 01:09:39,313 --> 01:09:40,761 He gets burned, he gets shot, he gets everything. 1647 01:09:40,866 --> 01:09:44,109 -Then, as scripted, Mike picks up a baseball bat 1648 01:09:44,214 --> 01:09:45,491 and knocks Chucky's head off. [Glass shatters] 1649 01:09:45,595 --> 01:09:47,216 -Chris Sarandon was meant to show up 1650 01:09:47,321 --> 01:09:48,874 from the side bedroom with a bat 1651 01:09:48,977 --> 01:09:50,288 and knock the head off. 1652 01:09:50,393 --> 01:09:51,911 -So that's how we actually shot it. 1653 01:09:52,015 --> 01:09:53,741 -I did get the baseball bat out of that moment, 1654 01:09:53,844 --> 01:09:55,501 but then I was being forced to cut it. 1655 01:09:55,605 --> 01:09:56,985 You can't see it, I've tried to slow it down 1656 01:09:57,089 --> 01:09:58,780 and see it, the head just is gone. 1657 01:09:58,884 --> 01:10:01,507 And it's Chris hitting the head so hard that it just removed it 1658 01:10:01,611 --> 01:10:03,613 and it bounced down the hallway perfectly. 1659 01:10:03,716 --> 01:10:08,859 -I blew his head off with a gun. 1660 01:10:08,963 --> 01:10:13,001 I blew off an arm. 1661 01:10:13,105 --> 01:10:17,489 I shot off a leg. 1662 01:10:17,592 --> 01:10:22,218 And then the thing was crawling. 1663 01:10:22,321 --> 01:10:24,806 And then finally it seemed like he was dead. 1664 01:10:24,910 --> 01:10:28,051 And Karen's helping Chris up in the bedroom, 1665 01:10:28,154 --> 01:10:29,880 and her son is traumatized. 1666 01:10:29,984 --> 01:10:31,434 -The kid was right. 1667 01:10:31,537 --> 01:10:33,746 The doll's alive. He almost got the three of us. 1668 01:10:33,850 --> 01:10:35,403 -Come on. What are you talking about? 1669 01:10:35,507 --> 01:10:37,923 -Ironically, his partner is the skeptic, 1670 01:10:38,026 --> 01:10:39,614 and Mike is now the believer. 1671 01:10:39,718 --> 01:10:40,650 -So I was going, 1672 01:10:40,753 --> 01:10:43,618 what's the most relaxed, kind of, 1673 01:10:43,722 --> 01:10:46,621 "This doll? Give me a break." 1674 01:10:46,725 --> 01:10:48,520 Like I was above it, you know. 1675 01:10:48,623 --> 01:10:50,625 And then it gets me. -And bang! 1676 01:10:50,729 --> 01:10:53,870 [Grater bangs, screaming] 1677 01:10:53,973 --> 01:10:56,631 -So I don't know how Chucky got through the air vent. 1678 01:10:56,735 --> 01:10:58,840 That, to me, didn't make sense when we were shooting it. 1679 01:10:58,944 --> 01:11:00,980 -The way that thing moved. I can hear it. 1680 01:11:01,084 --> 01:11:02,568 That was an interesting device. 1681 01:11:02,672 --> 01:11:04,432 I'm sure it would work very differently now, you know. 1682 01:11:04,536 --> 01:11:05,847 -I'll kill him now. 1683 01:11:05,951 --> 01:11:07,297 I'll strangle him! -[Grunting, panting] 1684 01:11:07,401 --> 01:11:08,988 Oh! Let go! 1685 01:11:09,092 --> 01:11:11,543 -You know, there was a lot of screaming and yelling. 1686 01:11:11,646 --> 01:11:13,821 I mean, I said, okay, don't hold back. 1687 01:11:13,924 --> 01:11:16,306 You got to threaten this guy with everything you have. 1688 01:11:16,410 --> 01:11:18,274 And I screamed. 1689 01:11:18,377 --> 01:11:21,587 I don't know, The folks from the studio 1690 01:11:21,691 --> 01:11:23,900 thought that maybe that was a little much. 1691 01:11:24,003 --> 01:11:25,557 -And everybody's in shock. 1692 01:11:25,660 --> 01:11:27,697 Karen is the only one who has the presence of mind. 1693 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,252 -Because I was told by the dying voodoo guy -- 1694 01:11:31,356 --> 01:11:32,909 Shoot him in the heart! 1695 01:11:33,012 --> 01:11:34,531 -[Screaming] 1696 01:11:34,635 --> 01:11:36,671 -That's what puts him away. And we had a yank line. 1697 01:11:36,775 --> 01:11:38,570 And it's great because you see the body react 1698 01:11:38,673 --> 01:11:40,606 in a wonderful way, where it almost looks like 1699 01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:43,368 he pushes, kicks himself off the floor. 1700 01:11:43,471 --> 01:11:46,163 -Hi, I'm Chucky, wanna 1701 01:11:46,267 --> 01:11:50,098 [Eerie-childlike voice] plaaaaay? 1702 01:11:50,202 --> 01:11:52,653 -And finally Chucky dies. 1703 01:11:52,756 --> 01:11:55,725 -I do remember having to do a lot of takes of, 1704 01:11:55,828 --> 01:11:57,623 "Hi, I'm Chucky, wanna play?" 1705 01:11:57,727 --> 01:11:59,798 And at the end the "play" had to get kind of crazy. 1706 01:11:59,901 --> 01:12:02,352 And so they wanted me to do all sorts of different weird, 1707 01:12:02,456 --> 01:12:05,113 wacky sounds and sound kind of creepy and evil. 1708 01:12:05,217 --> 01:12:09,186 -It takes you to a completely different place as an audience. 1709 01:12:09,290 --> 01:12:11,810 Hi, I'm Chucky, wanna [evilly] plaaaay? 1710 01:12:11,913 --> 01:12:18,782 ♪♪ 1711 01:12:18,886 --> 01:12:22,234 -I think any movie that ends with a freeze frame 1712 01:12:22,338 --> 01:12:23,856 in the horror genre, 1713 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,444 it says cliffhanger. 1714 01:12:25,548 --> 01:12:27,135 My script didn't end with that. 1715 01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:30,276 -I think that freeze frame definitely jettisons you back 1716 01:12:30,380 --> 01:12:31,968 to the horror films of the '70s. 1717 01:12:32,071 --> 01:12:34,626 -It's one of my favorite shots of the entire first film. 1718 01:12:34,729 --> 01:12:36,421 -Then you think, "Okay, we're fine." 1719 01:12:36,524 --> 01:12:38,112 And well, we don't know. Is he dead? 1720 01:12:38,215 --> 01:12:40,079 -I think that freeze frame at the end of the movie 1721 01:12:40,183 --> 01:12:43,807 is certainly Tom's attempt to give you a sense of, 1722 01:12:43,911 --> 01:12:47,052 wait a minute, what's behind me? What's over my shoulder? 1723 01:12:47,155 --> 01:12:50,676 -That was to let the audience know that that experience 1724 01:12:50,780 --> 01:12:52,782 will probably be with that little boy forever. 1725 01:12:52,885 --> 01:12:55,543 -As I say pretty often, Chucky told me in 1988 1726 01:12:55,647 --> 01:12:57,373 that we were going to be friends to the end, 1727 01:12:57,476 --> 01:13:00,030 and that has certainly proved to be true. 1728 01:13:00,134 --> 01:13:02,654 [Suspenseful music plays] 1729 01:13:02,757 --> 01:13:06,002 -"Child's Play" wrapped at 66 days of shooting 1730 01:13:06,105 --> 01:13:08,591 on April 5th, 1988. 1731 01:13:08,694 --> 01:13:10,213 Now it was time to put 1732 01:13:10,316 --> 01:13:11,973 the killer-doll-movie puzzle together, 1733 01:13:12,077 --> 01:13:14,700 something that ultimately had moments more dramatic 1734 01:13:14,804 --> 01:13:16,875 than what ended up on the screen. 1735 01:13:16,978 --> 01:13:19,291 -I think the best part of making the movie 1736 01:13:19,395 --> 01:13:22,328 was probably the first day, [Chuckles] 1737 01:13:22,432 --> 01:13:24,434 because there was no anticipation 1738 01:13:24,538 --> 01:13:26,436 as to what the difficulties might be, 1739 01:13:26,540 --> 01:13:27,989 and the last day, 1740 01:13:28,093 --> 01:13:30,613 knowing that it was done. It was a tough shoot. 1741 01:13:30,716 --> 01:13:33,132 -Every movie has its own challenges and its own nature. 1742 01:13:33,236 --> 01:13:36,170 -It was really a team effort. It really took a village. 1743 01:13:36,273 --> 01:13:39,242 -One of the funnest parts of doing "Child's Play" 1744 01:13:39,345 --> 01:13:41,140 was flirting with Kevin Yeager. 1745 01:13:41,244 --> 01:13:43,936 -So, Catherine, how do you like working on this show? 1746 01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,283 All right? [Laughter] 1747 01:13:46,387 --> 01:13:48,251 -I don't want to talk right now, Kevin. 1748 01:13:48,354 --> 01:13:50,495 I gotta crap. -Okay. 1749 01:13:50,598 --> 01:13:52,151 -See you. -Bye. 1750 01:13:52,255 --> 01:13:56,121 -I would come on set for scenes I wasn't even in, 1751 01:13:56,224 --> 01:13:57,433 in a short, short skirt. 1752 01:13:57,536 --> 01:13:59,849 You know, he was just so focused. 1753 01:13:59,952 --> 01:14:01,471 But I thought that was really sexy. 1754 01:14:01,575 --> 01:14:03,093 He was like, "What are you doing?" 1755 01:14:03,197 --> 01:14:05,026 -We were dating other people. 1756 01:14:05,130 --> 01:14:07,615 So the flirtation that happened between us on set 1757 01:14:07,719 --> 01:14:10,307 was very, very calm, peaceful. Nothing ever happened. 1758 01:14:10,411 --> 01:14:13,000 -Well, there was a wrap party and I got Tiffany pens 1759 01:14:13,103 --> 01:14:14,829 for all the puppeteers, but not Kevin. 1760 01:14:14,933 --> 01:14:18,005 And I just went up and said, "Was there anything between us?" 1761 01:14:18,108 --> 01:14:20,386 -And I had nothing to say. I was dumbfounded. 1762 01:14:20,490 --> 01:14:21,940 So I just took her by the hand 1763 01:14:22,043 --> 01:14:24,460 and I pulled her back behind one of the movie flats 1764 01:14:24,563 --> 01:14:26,047 and I kissed her, and that was it. 1765 01:14:26,151 --> 01:14:28,567 -Just one kiss. And it was like, okay. 1766 01:14:28,671 --> 01:14:29,775 -Chucky's a big part of my life. 1767 01:14:29,879 --> 01:14:32,260 I mean, it bought my house. 1768 01:14:32,364 --> 01:14:33,917 I got to meet my wife on it. 1769 01:14:34,021 --> 01:14:37,714 -I lost my heart. And we've been married 32 years. 1770 01:14:37,818 --> 01:14:40,476 -The hardest part for me was just the fear of failure. 1771 01:14:40,579 --> 01:14:41,960 You're wondering when it's going to break, 1772 01:14:42,063 --> 01:14:44,549 because inherently, every puppet will break. 1773 01:14:44,652 --> 01:14:46,102 -I would say working with Chucky 1774 01:14:46,205 --> 01:14:49,036 and his technical problems was the hardest part. 1775 01:14:49,139 --> 01:14:50,624 -One of the things I certainly thought 1776 01:14:50,727 --> 01:14:52,453 all through the shoot was, how are they 1777 01:14:52,557 --> 01:14:54,248 going to piece all of this together? 1778 01:14:54,351 --> 01:14:55,594 Because there were so many different 1779 01:14:55,698 --> 01:14:57,078 iterations of the doll. 1780 01:14:57,182 --> 01:14:59,978 -David showed me the first cut of the movie, 1781 01:15:00,081 --> 01:15:03,464 Tom's first cut, which ran like a half an hour longer. 1782 01:15:03,568 --> 01:15:05,570 -We had a wonderful, wonderful editor 1783 01:15:05,673 --> 01:15:08,711 named Ed Warschilka that did such a great job. 1784 01:15:08,814 --> 01:15:10,367 But when we test-screened the film, 1785 01:15:10,471 --> 01:15:13,267 probably the worst moment for me was towards the end. 1786 01:15:13,370 --> 01:15:14,751 The head is burned at this point 1787 01:15:14,855 --> 01:15:16,650 and someone from the audience screamed, 1788 01:15:16,753 --> 01:15:18,341 "Don't touch it, there'll be a sequel!" 1789 01:15:18,444 --> 01:15:19,998 And the audience just roared. 1790 01:15:20,101 --> 01:15:21,896 And had it not been my movie, I would have roared too. 1791 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,072 It's funny, but it wasn't funny when it's your movie. 1792 01:15:25,175 --> 01:15:26,901 -So I think that they were getting scared 1793 01:15:27,005 --> 01:15:29,697 and so their feeling was, let's cut this to the bone. 1794 01:15:29,801 --> 01:15:31,837 -I was under terrific pressure from the studio. 1795 01:15:31,941 --> 01:15:34,702 And they made my life hell because they had no belief 1796 01:15:34,806 --> 01:15:36,808 or anything invested in the movie, 1797 01:15:36,911 --> 01:15:38,775 and all they wanted me to do was cut, cut, cut. 1798 01:15:38,879 --> 01:15:42,330 -I felt really strongly that there was too much of the doll 1799 01:15:42,434 --> 01:15:44,954 in here by like almost 30 minutes. 1800 01:15:45,057 --> 01:15:46,783 -And I kept saying, "No Chucky, 1801 01:15:46,887 --> 01:15:48,544 no third act." [Chuckles] 1802 01:15:48,647 --> 01:15:51,201 -And when we went back in and edited, 1803 01:15:51,305 --> 01:15:53,825 Tom was let go that night, at the screening. 1804 01:15:53,928 --> 01:15:56,828 He walked up to us and it was a bad screening. 1805 01:15:56,931 --> 01:15:59,106 That was the end of it, and he just walked away. 1806 01:15:59,209 --> 01:16:00,935 That was the last time I ever saw Tom. 1807 01:16:01,039 --> 01:16:02,868 -There was this tension between us, 1808 01:16:02,972 --> 01:16:04,698 and every suggestion he made 1809 01:16:04,801 --> 01:16:06,976 was about flattening the movie out. 1810 01:16:07,079 --> 01:16:09,875 -Tom can be difficult. He's incredibly charming. 1811 01:16:09,979 --> 01:16:12,119 He's this movie star looking guy. 1812 01:16:12,222 --> 01:16:14,224 But, you know, he could be difficult. 1813 01:16:14,328 --> 01:16:16,606 He can be a hothead. -Yeah. 1814 01:16:16,710 --> 01:16:18,746 I was aware that -- that there was friction. 1815 01:16:18,850 --> 01:16:21,956 I was very aware of that. It's just really not my problem. 1816 01:16:22,060 --> 01:16:24,407 And if somebody made it my problem 1817 01:16:24,510 --> 01:16:25,960 or tried to make it my problem, 1818 01:16:26,064 --> 01:16:28,653 then I would make that their problem. 1819 01:16:28,756 --> 01:16:30,931 You don't fuck with my performance 1820 01:16:31,034 --> 01:16:33,450 and I don't fuck with anybody else's. 1821 01:16:33,554 --> 01:16:35,970 -There were times when the tension 1822 01:16:36,074 --> 01:16:38,939 was very palpable on the set. 1823 01:16:39,042 --> 01:16:42,494 It was a really difficult shoot in a lot of ways. 1824 01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,634 -Tom is a director who probably gets used 1825 01:16:44,738 --> 01:16:47,741 to getting his way and getting what he wants, 1826 01:16:47,844 --> 01:16:50,191 and David is very friendly, very compromising. 1827 01:16:50,295 --> 01:16:52,677 But also, you know, he has a vision, too, 1828 01:16:52,780 --> 01:16:54,161 and he puts his all into it. 1829 01:16:54,264 --> 01:16:55,818 I know he wouldn't back down from something 1830 01:16:55,921 --> 01:16:57,198 if it was important to him. 1831 01:16:57,302 --> 01:16:58,579 -Tom did the best he could. 1832 01:16:58,683 --> 01:17:00,408 The pressure was on Tom Holland, 1833 01:17:00,512 --> 01:17:02,169 I think 24/7. 1834 01:17:02,272 --> 01:17:03,998 -You never know if you're going to get it on the screen. 1835 01:17:04,102 --> 01:17:06,069 I figure if you get 80, 85% 1836 01:17:06,173 --> 01:17:08,865 of what's in your head on the screen, it's a miracle. 1837 01:17:08,969 --> 01:17:10,660 -Tom was off the movie. 1838 01:17:10,764 --> 01:17:13,490 And so at that point, David invited me in. 1839 01:17:13,594 --> 01:17:16,632 It's an unusual thing, frankly, for that to happen, 1840 01:17:16,735 --> 01:17:18,668 and it was extremely nice of him. 1841 01:17:18,772 --> 01:17:20,705 -We sat with Ed Warschilka and proceeded 1842 01:17:20,808 --> 01:17:24,329 to cut out about 27 minutes. 1843 01:17:24,432 --> 01:17:26,918 So when he finally comes alive, 1844 01:17:27,021 --> 01:17:29,852 I mean, in -- in a terrifying form, 1845 01:17:29,955 --> 01:17:31,681 it really makes the audience jump. 1846 01:17:31,785 --> 01:17:33,372 -[Childlike voice] Hi, I'm Chucky. 1847 01:17:33,476 --> 01:17:34,615 [Screaming evilly] -No! 1848 01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:36,306 -[Growls] -Ah! 1849 01:17:36,410 --> 01:17:38,861 -There was a lot of stuff that came out of the movie. 1850 01:17:38,964 --> 01:17:43,382 Chris Sarandon as the cop character in drag, 1851 01:17:43,486 --> 01:17:46,351 and they ended up, you know, cutting all of that. 1852 01:17:46,454 --> 01:17:48,111 -Ed Gale, you know, getting up 1853 01:17:48,215 --> 01:17:49,665 off the pavement in the background. 1854 01:17:49,768 --> 01:17:52,219 And we did one where Ed flips off Chris. 1855 01:17:52,322 --> 01:17:54,980 -And I was there when they actually filmed the scene, 1856 01:17:55,084 --> 01:17:57,017 which starts off before it goes in the kitchen 1857 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:58,294 and makes this cup of tea. 1858 01:17:58,397 --> 01:17:59,640 He's holding a baby 1859 01:17:59,744 --> 01:18:01,193 and he's doing incantations. 1860 01:18:01,297 --> 01:18:03,748 And I just wonder what happened to that child 1861 01:18:03,851 --> 01:18:05,163 all these years later. 1862 01:18:05,266 --> 01:18:07,752 -In addition to trimming the film's runtime, 1863 01:18:07,855 --> 01:18:10,168 a new composer was brought onto the production, 1864 01:18:10,271 --> 01:18:12,826 replacing the original hire who disappeared 1865 01:18:12,929 --> 01:18:14,897 before writing a single note. 1866 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,107 This change brought forth the musical sound of the film 1867 01:18:18,210 --> 01:18:21,386 and the shine of previous accolades. 1868 01:18:21,489 --> 01:18:22,801 -I love the score 1869 01:18:22,905 --> 01:18:24,907 of "Child's Play" one by Joe Renzetti, 1870 01:18:25,010 --> 01:18:29,601 who was actually an Oscar winner for "The Buddy Holly Story." 1871 01:18:29,705 --> 01:18:30,947 -Scoring was a bit rushed. 1872 01:18:31,051 --> 01:18:33,778 because the film had been completed. 1873 01:18:33,881 --> 01:18:36,850 It had been tested not very well. 1874 01:18:36,953 --> 01:18:38,230 They thought it was too funny. 1875 01:18:38,334 --> 01:18:39,922 So they said, "Joe, whatever you do, 1876 01:18:40,025 --> 01:18:41,268 we gotta scare people." 1877 01:18:41,371 --> 01:18:44,547 What I did come up with was a sound theme, 1878 01:18:44,650 --> 01:18:45,997 if you will, which was this. 1879 01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,275 [Eerie organ music plays] That was Chucky. 1880 01:18:48,378 --> 01:18:51,209 -It's not until you put the music in, 1881 01:18:51,312 --> 01:18:55,109 really that -- that a film starts to come to life. 1882 01:18:55,213 --> 01:18:58,975 -We recorded "Child's Play" at CBS on Ventura Boulevard. 1883 01:18:59,079 --> 01:19:00,736 We had a pretty big orchestra, I'm going to say maybe 1884 01:19:00,839 --> 01:19:04,187 60 pieces, complete strings, horns, winds. 1885 01:19:04,291 --> 01:19:07,466 -And credits sounds like "Pachelbel's Canon," 1886 01:19:07,570 --> 01:19:10,366 only minor and horror division. 1887 01:19:10,469 --> 01:19:11,436 Loved that. 1888 01:19:11,539 --> 01:19:13,679 [Eerie orchestral music plays] 1889 01:19:13,783 --> 01:19:19,168 ♪♪ 1890 01:19:19,271 --> 01:19:23,068 -It was still the days of where orchestras were preferred, 1891 01:19:23,172 --> 01:19:26,278 but it was also the days, we're talking about '87, 1892 01:19:26,382 --> 01:19:27,935 where the Synclavier, 1893 01:19:28,039 --> 01:19:30,938 which was one of the first great sequencers, 1894 01:19:31,042 --> 01:19:34,459 synthesizers, digital, and it was just a mere... 1895 01:19:34,562 --> 01:19:36,185 $175,000. 1896 01:19:36,288 --> 01:19:38,325 -Joe did a great job on the score. 1897 01:19:38,428 --> 01:19:39,740 I mean, it's fantastic. 1898 01:19:39,844 --> 01:19:42,812 -My dear friend Simon Stokes and I on our own 1899 01:19:42,916 --> 01:19:45,263 wrote a very funny song called the "Chucky" song, 1900 01:19:45,366 --> 01:19:47,886 and we played it for the producers and they laughed, 1901 01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:50,095 but they said, Joe, we can't use it 1902 01:19:50,199 --> 01:19:52,891 because it's funny and we don't want laughing. 1903 01:19:52,995 --> 01:19:54,755 -It kind of took you out of the experience 1904 01:19:54,859 --> 01:19:55,860 that you just had. 1905 01:19:55,963 --> 01:19:57,378 That song just didn't do it. 1906 01:19:57,482 --> 01:19:59,311 -♪ He said, "Hi there. Ain't I lucky?" ♪ 1907 01:19:59,415 --> 01:20:01,451 ♪ "Pleased to meet you. Call me Chucky." ♪ 1908 01:20:01,555 --> 01:20:02,694 -That was it. 1909 01:20:02,798 --> 01:20:04,661 It's not really the theme song. 1910 01:20:04,765 --> 01:20:06,215 But I'm not going to complain. 1911 01:20:06,318 --> 01:20:08,596 -With the film finally locked, scored, 1912 01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:10,115 and leaning into its scares, 1913 01:20:10,219 --> 01:20:12,428 there was one final hurdle before audiences 1914 01:20:12,531 --> 01:20:15,983 would see all of Chucky's terror fill the big screen. 1915 01:20:16,087 --> 01:20:19,676 A fairly contentious writing credit arbitration. 1916 01:20:19,780 --> 01:20:20,954 -I got co-screenplay credit, 1917 01:20:21,057 --> 01:20:23,059 but I did not get co-story credit, 1918 01:20:23,163 --> 01:20:25,234 which I always felt was really unfair to me. 1919 01:20:25,337 --> 01:20:27,823 -There would definitely be a WGA arbitration 1920 01:20:27,926 --> 01:20:29,548 when there's more than one writer. 1921 01:20:29,652 --> 01:20:33,173 -So I, you know, eternally grateful to the Writers Guild 1922 01:20:33,276 --> 01:20:35,554 for protecting me in that way. 1923 01:20:35,658 --> 01:20:37,902 As the creator of this character 1924 01:20:38,005 --> 01:20:39,351 and the creator of the franchise. 1925 01:20:39,455 --> 01:20:41,077 The rules were stacked against me. 1926 01:20:41,181 --> 01:20:43,839 For a director to get co-screenplay credit, 1927 01:20:43,942 --> 01:20:46,048 he had to write more than 50% of the script. 1928 01:20:46,151 --> 01:20:48,602 -What was more frustrating for me 1929 01:20:48,705 --> 01:20:51,847 was Tom's statements in the press 1930 01:20:51,950 --> 01:20:53,883 concurrent with the movie coming out, 1931 01:20:53,987 --> 01:20:55,505 where he would say, 1932 01:20:55,609 --> 01:20:57,266 This is my original script, 1933 01:20:57,369 --> 01:20:58,854 even though the credits say it isn't. 1934 01:20:58,957 --> 01:21:00,062 -I felt like I deserved it. 1935 01:21:00,165 --> 01:21:01,649 -When the film was completed, 1936 01:21:01,753 --> 01:21:03,444 I asked Tony Thomopoulos 1937 01:21:03,548 --> 01:21:07,414 if we could have a screening for friends and family. 1938 01:21:07,517 --> 01:21:09,071 And he said, "No." 1939 01:21:09,174 --> 01:21:13,627 And I did something that is so not like me even today. 1940 01:21:13,730 --> 01:21:15,456 Um, I did not listen to him. 1941 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:20,876 And with my wife, we went and rented the Academy Theater, 1942 01:21:20,979 --> 01:21:24,086 and we invited about 1,100 people, 1943 01:21:24,189 --> 01:21:27,503 and I got all the boxes that we had from "Chucky," 1944 01:21:27,606 --> 01:21:31,231 and I made a tunnel that the audience had to walk through. 1945 01:21:31,334 --> 01:21:34,234 I mean, Tony almost killed me the next day, 1946 01:21:34,337 --> 01:21:36,132 but it was the talk of the town. 1947 01:21:36,236 --> 01:21:38,997 -Some of us were allowed to take a Chucky doll box with us, 1948 01:21:39,101 --> 01:21:41,068 and I kept it for many, many years. 1949 01:21:41,172 --> 01:21:43,036 -Steven Spielberg was there because David had worked 1950 01:21:43,139 --> 01:21:44,796 with him on the "American Tail," 1951 01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:46,694 and he was congratulating David, you know, great job, David. 1952 01:21:46,798 --> 01:21:48,558 Really, really nice and very scary and all that stuff. 1953 01:21:48,662 --> 01:21:50,388 -I think it's Tom's best film. 1954 01:21:50,491 --> 01:21:52,045 I was proud to have worked on it. 1955 01:21:52,148 --> 01:21:53,425 You know, it wasn't one of those ones. 1956 01:21:53,529 --> 01:21:55,151 That one likes to kind of hide away. 1957 01:21:55,255 --> 01:21:57,084 It was a it was a good movie. 1958 01:21:57,188 --> 01:21:59,535 -I was always pretty confident with what we were making. 1959 01:21:59,638 --> 01:22:02,641 But when I saw the final film finished, you know, 1960 01:22:02,745 --> 01:22:06,059 with the benefit of having a great sound effects job 1961 01:22:06,162 --> 01:22:08,302 and a great score, the movie shined. 1962 01:22:08,406 --> 01:22:09,925 -I thought it was really good. 1963 01:22:10,028 --> 01:22:12,651 And I thought Chucky was just so intricate. 1964 01:22:12,755 --> 01:22:14,377 -It was great to see the effect 1965 01:22:14,481 --> 01:22:18,864 that had on the people who were affected by Chucky 1966 01:22:18,968 --> 01:22:20,521 and what that did to them. 1967 01:22:20,625 --> 01:22:23,179 -I remember seeing it at a premiere in my hometown. 1968 01:22:23,283 --> 01:22:26,562 My grandfather rented out one of the theaters 1969 01:22:26,665 --> 01:22:28,495 for all of my friends and family to come, 1970 01:22:28,598 --> 01:22:31,705 and I was in a tuxedo signing my first autographs for everybody. 1971 01:22:31,808 --> 01:22:33,914 And it was thrilling. Obviously, it was thrilling 1972 01:22:34,018 --> 01:22:36,020 to see this come together. 1973 01:22:36,123 --> 01:22:40,162 -I had no sense whatsoever as to what the reaction 1974 01:22:40,265 --> 01:22:41,715 to the movie was going to be, 1975 01:22:41,818 --> 01:22:45,132 but I knew that it was going to touch a nerve when. 1976 01:22:45,236 --> 01:22:47,203 -When I saw it for the first time, 1977 01:22:47,307 --> 01:22:51,138 the audience cringed sometime at this guy, or they gasped. 1978 01:22:51,242 --> 01:22:53,727 And so I walked away really, really satisfied. 1979 01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:56,281 -When you're working on a film, you just hope it comes together. 1980 01:22:56,385 --> 01:22:58,387 I was quite pleased with the way that it turned out. 1981 01:22:58,490 --> 01:23:01,148 -I was so lucky. It was super thrilling. 1982 01:23:01,252 --> 01:23:04,082 -Although the film was a hit with its cast and crew, 1983 01:23:04,186 --> 01:23:05,463 the true measure of success 1984 01:23:05,566 --> 01:23:07,396 would come with a paying audience. 1985 01:23:07,499 --> 01:23:09,432 But first, the studio had to find a way 1986 01:23:09,536 --> 01:23:12,401 to sell this cinematic amalgamation of horror, 1987 01:23:12,504 --> 01:23:14,610 action and mystery to the public 1988 01:23:14,713 --> 01:23:17,233 while dealing with their own private problems. 1989 01:23:17,337 --> 01:23:19,546 -The studio was in freefall at that point. 1990 01:23:19,649 --> 01:23:22,514 By the time the film came out, it was a one-man show. 1991 01:23:22,618 --> 01:23:24,033 Everyone had been fired. 1992 01:23:24,137 --> 01:23:27,209 The studio was having major problems, 1993 01:23:27,312 --> 01:23:28,589 there had been a writers strike, 1994 01:23:28,693 --> 01:23:30,660 and then there was talk of it being sold. 1995 01:23:30,764 --> 01:23:32,248 It just became a mess 1996 01:23:32,352 --> 01:23:35,320 and there really wasn't a staff to sell this movie. 1997 01:23:35,424 --> 01:23:38,496 -David would start sharing with me the initial advertising, 1998 01:23:38,599 --> 01:23:39,876 one sheet concepts. 1999 01:23:39,980 --> 01:23:42,189 They had come up with something I loved. 2000 01:23:42,293 --> 01:23:45,744 It almost looked like a Broadway Playbill cover. 2001 01:23:45,848 --> 01:23:51,302 It was just completely black and in white, a stick figure 2002 01:23:51,405 --> 01:23:54,408 and a single drop of red blood. 2003 01:23:54,512 --> 01:23:55,892 They went with this other thing. 2004 01:23:55,996 --> 01:23:57,963 I wasn't crazy about that key art. 2005 01:23:58,067 --> 01:23:59,482 I thought it wasn't very strong. 2006 01:23:59,586 --> 01:24:02,416 The most glaring thing about it to me 2007 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,039 was that they don't show a doll. 2008 01:24:04,142 --> 01:24:06,386 You don't know it's about a killer doll. 2009 01:24:06,489 --> 01:24:09,285 -When I went into the movie, I had never seen Chucky. 2010 01:24:09,389 --> 01:24:10,942 I had no idea what he looked like. 2011 01:24:11,046 --> 01:24:12,357 -In a way, I think that was smart, 2012 01:24:12,461 --> 01:24:14,566 because I think you didn't necessarily 2013 01:24:14,670 --> 01:24:17,362 go in with the same prejudices you might have 2014 01:24:17,466 --> 01:24:19,123 thinking of it as just a killer doll movie. 2015 01:24:19,226 --> 01:24:20,952 -So it was all about was the movie 2016 01:24:21,056 --> 01:24:23,023 going to be successful financially? 2017 01:24:23,127 --> 01:24:25,301 -"Child's Play" opened at number one 2018 01:24:25,405 --> 01:24:27,683 on November 11, 1988, 2019 01:24:27,786 --> 01:24:31,480 eventually taking in 44 million at the box office, 2020 01:24:31,583 --> 01:24:34,759 quickly proving there was a new horror kid on the block. 2021 01:24:34,862 --> 01:24:36,864 And while the road to bringing the film to life 2022 01:24:36,968 --> 01:24:40,730 may have been filled with physical bumps and ego bruises, 2023 01:24:40,834 --> 01:24:43,699 "Child's Play" cemented itself in the lives and minds 2024 01:24:43,802 --> 01:24:47,737 of critics, moviegoers, cast, and crew forever. 2025 01:24:47,841 --> 01:24:52,432 -The success of the first film was a bit surprising. 2026 01:24:52,535 --> 01:24:54,537 -"Child's Play" got pretty good reviews for a horror movie. 2027 01:24:54,641 --> 01:24:56,298 Roger Ebert liked "Child's Play." 2028 01:24:56,401 --> 01:24:58,645 -The movie is well made, with convincing performances by 2029 01:24:58,748 --> 01:25:00,405 Catherine Hicks and little Alex Vincent. 2030 01:25:00,509 --> 01:25:02,269 -Kevin Thomas from the LA Times liked "Child's Play." 2031 01:25:02,373 --> 01:25:04,029 The New York Times like "Child's Play." 2032 01:25:04,133 --> 01:25:08,379 A lot of the big publications and big TV shows recognized 2033 01:25:08,482 --> 01:25:10,001 that it was something special. 2034 01:25:10,105 --> 01:25:11,554 -And I think when the studio released it, 2035 01:25:11,658 --> 01:25:13,694 they were shocked that it did as well as it did. 2036 01:25:13,798 --> 01:25:16,559 -The success of the movie, it happened very fast. 2037 01:25:16,663 --> 01:25:20,494 It won the weekend, and it was completely thrilling. 2038 01:25:20,598 --> 01:25:22,600 -Timing wise, while on the one hand 2039 01:25:22,703 --> 01:25:24,395 it would seem like it was a crowded marketplace. 2040 01:25:24,498 --> 01:25:25,982 On the other hand, they're doing something 2041 01:25:26,086 --> 01:25:27,743 different and new enough here. 2042 01:25:27,846 --> 01:25:32,023 -It obviously hit a nerve with audiences around the world. 2043 01:25:32,127 --> 01:25:34,681 Chucky is now part of the iconic 2044 01:25:34,784 --> 01:25:37,304 horror figures, you know, characters. 2045 01:25:37,408 --> 01:25:38,995 He's right up there with Freddy Krueger 2046 01:25:39,099 --> 01:25:40,859 and Jason Voorhees and Pinhead 2047 01:25:40,963 --> 01:25:43,690 and Leatherface and, you know, it goes on and on. 2048 01:25:43,793 --> 01:25:45,416 -You make a movie for many different reasons, 2049 01:25:45,519 --> 01:25:48,039 but primarily you make it to make a good film 2050 01:25:48,143 --> 01:25:49,558 that's going to make money 2051 01:25:49,661 --> 01:25:51,318 and it's going to be enjoyed by your audience. 2052 01:25:51,422 --> 01:25:54,977 And so when a film that you've done works well, 2053 01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:56,841 you always are happy. 2054 01:25:56,944 --> 01:25:59,775 -Being part of the original franchise starter 2055 01:25:59,878 --> 01:26:01,466 was wonderful 2056 01:26:01,570 --> 01:26:04,849 because it's probably going to be my legacy. 2057 01:26:04,952 --> 01:26:06,437 And it was a delight to work on. 2058 01:26:06,540 --> 01:26:08,922 -There were a lot of innovations 2059 01:26:09,025 --> 01:26:12,443 that took place in the creation of Chucky and in -- 2060 01:26:12,546 --> 01:26:16,481 in filming Chucky that I had never seen before. 2061 01:26:16,585 --> 01:26:18,587 -Bringing Chucky to life was unforgettable. 2062 01:26:18,690 --> 01:26:20,554 -It was such a great experience for me 2063 01:26:20,658 --> 01:26:22,763 all the way around, you know, it put me on a different map. 2064 01:26:22,867 --> 01:26:24,903 You know, it took me from makeup artist to suddenly, 2065 01:26:25,007 --> 01:26:27,906 you know, creator of a thing that didn't exist. 2066 01:26:28,010 --> 01:26:30,702 And when you finally put those elements together and he moves 2067 01:26:30,806 --> 01:26:33,291 and then you add a voice to that, it's magic. 2068 01:26:33,395 --> 01:26:35,776 -I went to an audition, one of many. 2069 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,470 I was chosen to do a role, a small role, 2070 01:26:39,573 --> 01:26:42,921 and it stuck with me all of this time. 2071 01:26:43,025 --> 01:26:45,407 -It's always shocking to see 2072 01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:48,133 what has lasting power 2073 01:26:48,237 --> 01:26:50,446 and ignites the public imagination. 2074 01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:53,208 -Being a part of "Child's Play" was, 2075 01:26:53,311 --> 01:26:55,762 you know, really wonderful and surprising. 2076 01:26:55,865 --> 01:26:58,109 I kind of wish I didn't die so early 2077 01:26:58,213 --> 01:27:02,320 so I could have come back in one of the thousands of sequels. 2078 01:27:02,424 --> 01:27:04,219 -I'm really shocked that 2079 01:27:04,322 --> 01:27:05,772 it's had the kind of life that it has, 2080 01:27:05,875 --> 01:27:09,534 and that Chucky has become an iconic character. 2081 01:27:09,638 --> 01:27:12,157 I would have loved to have played the definitive 2082 01:27:12,261 --> 01:27:13,745 Saint Francis of Assisi. 2083 01:27:13,849 --> 01:27:16,990 I never played that, so Chucky will just have to do. 2084 01:27:17,093 --> 01:27:20,269 -Being in "Child's Play" was a thrilling experience, 2085 01:27:20,373 --> 01:27:22,961 but one that I was just instantly thankful for. 2086 01:27:23,065 --> 01:27:26,275 So to be given a part, let alone a good part in a movie 2087 01:27:26,379 --> 01:27:28,312 that people love was something that I just 2088 01:27:28,415 --> 01:27:31,038 appreciated intensely from the very beginning. 2089 01:27:31,142 --> 01:27:32,557 -I'm thrilled to have been 2090 01:27:32,661 --> 01:27:35,802 a part of making the original "Child's Play." 2091 01:27:35,905 --> 01:27:37,976 Uh, always have been, and I always will be. 2092 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:42,291 -I never realized that I was both the final girl 2093 01:27:42,395 --> 01:27:43,706 and the protector, 2094 01:27:43,810 --> 01:27:46,640 so I sort of felt a dignity to this project 2095 01:27:46,744 --> 01:27:48,470 and a dignity to my character. 2096 01:27:48,573 --> 01:27:50,989 I thought all the actors involved had dignity, 2097 01:27:51,093 --> 01:27:54,890 and so I thought it was a unique kind of horror film. 2098 01:27:54,993 --> 01:27:58,169 -It was the beginning of a 35-year relationship 2099 01:27:58,273 --> 01:27:59,688 and partnership with Don Mancini. 2100 01:27:59,791 --> 01:28:04,106 -It was extremely thrilling experience for me, 2101 01:28:04,209 --> 01:28:05,590 even though I was rewritten, 2102 01:28:05,694 --> 01:28:08,179 even though I had to fight for my credit 2103 01:28:08,283 --> 01:28:10,630 as creator of the character, 2104 01:28:10,733 --> 01:28:14,599 it was still really thrilling and a wonderful experience, 2105 01:28:14,703 --> 01:28:17,464 largely due to David's generosity. 2106 01:28:17,568 --> 01:28:20,605 -"Child's Play" was a film with puppeteers, cranes, 2107 01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:24,747 little people, animatronics, children, effects, etc. 2108 01:28:24,851 --> 01:28:28,095 It was a tough shoot, difficult beyond belief, 2109 01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:29,614 but it all came together 2110 01:28:29,718 --> 01:28:33,377 because of the efforts of a lot of very talented people, 2111 01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:35,068 and I'll always be thankful. 2112 01:28:35,171 --> 01:28:38,347 It's so nice to think that I'm leaving Chucky behind 2113 01:28:38,451 --> 01:28:39,866 for the rest of the world. 2114 01:28:39,969 --> 01:28:45,389 [Maniacal laughter] 2115 01:28:45,492 --> 01:28:47,977 [Eerie orchestral music plays] 2116 01:28:48,081 --> 01:28:54,605 ♪♪ 2117 01:28:54,708 --> 01:28:58,402 -"Child's Play," a movie that defied expectations, 2118 01:28:58,505 --> 01:29:00,404 slayed audiences and played its way 2119 01:29:00,507 --> 01:29:01,957 to the top of the box office, 2120 01:29:02,060 --> 01:29:04,787 quickly seemed destined to follow in the footsteps 2121 01:29:04,891 --> 01:29:06,858 of its horror film predecessors. 2122 01:29:06,962 --> 01:29:10,241 It was clear the time had come to bring Chucky 2123 01:29:10,345 --> 01:29:11,587 back from the dead. 2124 01:29:11,691 --> 01:29:13,486 -So David and I were talking 2125 01:29:13,589 --> 01:29:15,591 about the potential for a sequel. 2126 01:29:15,695 --> 01:29:17,213 And it was a thing in Hollywood 2127 01:29:17,317 --> 01:29:19,181 at that time, like horror movies 2128 01:29:19,284 --> 01:29:20,803 becoming franchises. 2129 01:29:20,907 --> 01:29:23,806 -They said they wanted to do a sequel pretty quickly. 2130 01:29:23,910 --> 01:29:27,051 -The reviews were really good. LA Times was fantastic. 2131 01:29:27,154 --> 01:29:30,675 -I had a desire to bring back some of the elements 2132 01:29:30,779 --> 01:29:32,746 from my original "Blood Buddy" script 2133 01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:34,679 that had fallen by the wayside. 2134 01:29:34,783 --> 01:29:38,614 -The screenplay was written by Don Mancini, only Don. 2135 01:29:38,718 --> 01:29:42,066 -The studio strategically neglected to tell me 2136 01:29:42,169 --> 01:29:43,654 that they were simultaneously 2137 01:29:43,757 --> 01:29:46,726 developing another script for "Child's Play II," 2138 01:29:46,829 --> 01:29:49,487 written by Mark Patrick Carducci, 2139 01:29:49,591 --> 01:29:51,144 who had written "Pumpkinhead," 2140 01:29:51,247 --> 01:29:54,250 and the idea was that the best one would go forward. 2141 01:29:54,354 --> 01:29:55,459 I won. [Laughs] 2142 01:29:55,562 --> 01:29:57,081 -John and I and David 2143 01:29:57,184 --> 01:29:58,669 were all on the same page 2144 01:29:58,772 --> 01:30:01,154 that one of the things we wanted to get into the sequel 2145 01:30:01,257 --> 01:30:05,779 was that fairy tale vibe that had been lost along the way. 2146 01:30:05,883 --> 01:30:09,852 -John Lafia I was so impressed by how he had shaped everything. 2147 01:30:09,956 --> 01:30:13,200 And I said, "Would you like to direct the second film?" 2148 01:30:13,304 --> 01:30:16,687 -In the beginning, Tom Holland, uh, showed some interest. 2149 01:30:16,790 --> 01:30:20,000 -"Child's Play" is so much mine and is so much, 2150 01:30:20,104 --> 01:30:21,761 you know, it's not like any of the others. 2151 01:30:21,864 --> 01:30:24,177 You can feel the electricity, you can feel it working. 2152 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,456 -There's not a chance in hell that would have happened. 2153 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,804 That was never even discussed, No if, ands or buts. 2154 01:30:30,908 --> 01:30:32,565 -So we were all just kind of united. 2155 01:30:32,668 --> 01:30:34,946 And of course John and I being a little bit snot nosed, 2156 01:30:35,050 --> 01:30:38,053 we were like, we can do this better than Tom Holland. 2157 01:30:38,156 --> 01:30:40,607 Unlike the experience with the first movie, 2158 01:30:40,711 --> 01:30:43,886 John allowed me to be around him and learn. 2159 01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:46,855 I just shadowed him through everything 2160 01:30:46,958 --> 01:30:48,684 and he didn't have to do that. 2161 01:30:48,788 --> 01:30:50,583 -I remember David called and said, 2162 01:30:50,686 --> 01:30:52,377 "Hey, we're going to do a two, and if we do a sequel, 2163 01:30:52,481 --> 01:30:54,241 we're trying to do better than the first one." 2164 01:30:54,345 --> 01:30:55,519 We've certainly learned a lot. 2165 01:30:55,622 --> 01:30:56,796 If Chucky couldn't walk, 2166 01:30:56,899 --> 01:30:58,453 we made him walk in the second one. 2167 01:30:58,556 --> 01:31:00,662 -Chucky was more expensive in"Child's Play II." 2168 01:31:00,765 --> 01:31:03,768 He was about $1 million, I think, at that point. 2169 01:31:03,872 --> 01:31:06,184 -And we were doing new silicone molds 2170 01:31:06,288 --> 01:31:09,084 and running the foam skins with the new formulas. 2171 01:31:09,187 --> 01:31:10,603 -You're always trying to invent new things 2172 01:31:10,706 --> 01:31:12,328 and not just do the same old thing, 2173 01:31:12,432 --> 01:31:14,020 not just pull Chucky out of the bag and start shooting him, 2174 01:31:14,123 --> 01:31:15,780 but to do something new and different. 2175 01:31:15,884 --> 01:31:18,887 -David and John Lafia and I had talked about it. 2176 01:31:18,990 --> 01:31:21,303 We knew we wanted to bring Andy back. 2177 01:31:21,406 --> 01:31:23,512 -When I found out that there was going to be a sequel, 2178 01:31:23,616 --> 01:31:25,618 that I was going to be a very big part of it. 2179 01:31:25,721 --> 01:31:28,724 I knew that Andy had a lot of good stuff to do. 2180 01:31:28,828 --> 01:31:31,865 I enjoyed the fact that he was traumatized. 2181 01:31:31,969 --> 01:31:33,384 -[Muffled shouting] -And now, 2182 01:31:33,488 --> 01:31:35,041 it's time to play. 2183 01:31:35,144 --> 01:31:38,251 -There was never a thought of of getting rid of Brad. 2184 01:31:38,354 --> 01:31:42,082 I mean, he's so cemented that character and made it his. 2185 01:31:42,186 --> 01:31:45,085 -I was already contractually required to do it. 2186 01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:48,779 I had a three picture deal with them, I was all in. 2187 01:31:48,882 --> 01:31:51,367 -Hi, I'm Tommy and I'm your friend to the end. 2188 01:31:51,471 --> 01:31:53,922 I didn't obviously know that I would be a part of it, 2189 01:31:54,025 --> 01:31:55,820 so it was wonderful to be cast again 2190 01:31:55,924 --> 01:31:58,236 as all the good guy dolls and as good Chucky. 2191 01:31:58,340 --> 01:32:00,963 I probably was looking forward to saying some bad words 2192 01:32:01,067 --> 01:32:03,069 and again, didn't get the opportunity. 2193 01:32:03,172 --> 01:32:04,657 -The mother's a different matter. 2194 01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,417 She backed up her boy's story in court, 2195 01:32:06,521 --> 01:32:08,695 so now she's under psychiatric observation. 2196 01:32:08,799 --> 01:32:10,421 -I knew Catherine would not be returning 2197 01:32:10,525 --> 01:32:13,424 as soon as I got the script, and I was bummed out about that. 2198 01:32:13,528 --> 01:32:16,565 Of course, I'm sure she was bummed out about that as well. 2199 01:32:16,669 --> 01:32:19,257 -There was a decision made 2200 01:32:19,361 --> 01:32:21,466 that Andy would be on his own, 2201 01:32:21,570 --> 01:32:23,089 and so the foster system 2202 01:32:23,192 --> 01:32:26,161 felt like the most logical way into the story. 2203 01:32:26,264 --> 01:32:28,715 -John Mancini's thought was that he really wanted 2204 01:32:28,819 --> 01:32:30,786 to explore the fact that Catherine Hicks 2205 01:32:30,890 --> 01:32:32,995 had been put into a mental institution 2206 01:32:33,099 --> 01:32:35,066 because of everything that she went through. 2207 01:32:35,170 --> 01:32:37,517 -I had no respect for that decision. 2208 01:32:37,621 --> 01:32:39,001 I don't have to be in it, 2209 01:32:39,105 --> 01:32:41,486 but make her be doing something better. 2210 01:32:41,590 --> 01:32:42,867 She wasn't crazy. 2211 01:32:42,971 --> 01:32:44,766 Yeah, what are you saying? She's crazy? 2212 01:32:44,869 --> 01:32:46,630 -I think even Don came and apologized to me. 2213 01:32:46,733 --> 01:32:48,770 Like, I couldn't think of a story with her in it. 2214 01:32:48,873 --> 01:32:50,288 So he thought of this. 2215 01:32:50,392 --> 01:32:51,911 It came to him, and that's how things happened. 2216 01:32:52,014 --> 01:32:55,017 -I remember Kevin saying in a very kind fashion, 2217 01:32:55,121 --> 01:32:57,364 Chucky will probably go on longer 2218 01:32:57,468 --> 01:32:58,883 in this franchise than you will. 2219 01:32:58,987 --> 01:33:00,264 -The police were smart. They denied everything. 2220 01:33:00,367 --> 01:33:02,024 Which is fine, because now they can't hurt us. 2221 01:33:02,128 --> 01:33:04,509 -I'm not sure how I would feel about coming back 2222 01:33:04,613 --> 01:33:05,959 to battle Chucky. 2223 01:33:06,063 --> 01:33:09,100 First of all, he was a relentless adversary. 2224 01:33:09,204 --> 01:33:12,517 And also the making of the movie, which was very difficult. 2225 01:33:12,621 --> 01:33:14,209 And I'm very proud of the fact 2226 01:33:14,312 --> 01:33:16,970 that Mike still kind of alive and around. 2227 01:33:17,074 --> 01:33:19,076 -Without his mother, Detective Norris, 2228 01:33:19,179 --> 01:33:22,700 Andy needed someone new to help in his battle for survival. 2229 01:33:22,804 --> 01:33:25,530 A younger character who proved to be smart, 2230 01:33:25,634 --> 01:33:28,085 strong, and sympathetic. 2231 01:33:28,188 --> 01:33:29,500 -I got the audition 2232 01:33:29,604 --> 01:33:31,088 for "Child's Play II," the standard way. 2233 01:33:31,191 --> 01:33:33,021 My agent submitted me and they brought me in. 2234 01:33:33,124 --> 01:33:35,161 I was 24 years old. The character was 17. 2235 01:33:35,264 --> 01:33:37,301 I played teenagers for a very long time. 2236 01:33:37,404 --> 01:33:38,820 -There was a toughness to her, 2237 01:33:38,923 --> 01:33:41,546 but inside she had this wonderful big sister, 2238 01:33:41,650 --> 01:33:43,445 maternal element to her. 2239 01:33:43,548 --> 01:33:45,067 -I had attitude because I had a job 2240 01:33:45,171 --> 01:33:46,551 and I had some power and I was like, 2241 01:33:46,655 --> 01:33:47,863 let's get this show on the road. 2242 01:33:47,967 --> 01:33:49,140 I need to -- I have somewhere to be. 2243 01:33:49,244 --> 01:33:50,797 And I think the added confidence 2244 01:33:50,901 --> 01:33:52,178 and the sort of attitude that I had 2245 01:33:52,281 --> 01:33:53,593 was why I stood out. 2246 01:33:53,697 --> 01:33:55,768 The way I wrote Kyle. 2247 01:33:55,871 --> 01:33:57,390 You know, she would had to have a toughness. 2248 01:33:57,493 --> 01:34:01,152 Christine had that in spades. She just had that edge. 2249 01:34:01,256 --> 01:34:04,949 But she also had the crucial warmth that you needed. 2250 01:34:05,053 --> 01:34:07,572 -The sort of misunderstood tough girl with a heart of gold. 2251 01:34:07,676 --> 01:34:09,229 It's -- It's my stock and trade. 2252 01:34:09,333 --> 01:34:12,232 So Kyle was very much in that sweet spot for me. 2253 01:34:12,336 --> 01:34:14,579 This is exactly how I wanted to spend my day off. 2254 01:34:14,683 --> 01:34:16,236 Thanks a lot. 2255 01:34:16,340 --> 01:34:18,376 -But I didn't break the statue, really. 2256 01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:21,656 -Alex Vincent was really easy to work opposite, 2257 01:34:21,759 --> 01:34:23,934 and the bond between us was very real. 2258 01:34:24,037 --> 01:34:26,764 He's a super cute kid, really precocious, really smart. 2259 01:34:26,868 --> 01:34:28,386 -She was so happy to be there. 2260 01:34:28,490 --> 01:34:30,941 She just had a great energy that I really loved. 2261 01:34:31,044 --> 01:34:33,150 So forming that brotherly sister bond 2262 01:34:33,253 --> 01:34:35,877 between the two of us was very, very natural. 2263 01:34:35,980 --> 01:34:38,811 -He seems normal enough, 2264 01:34:38,914 --> 01:34:40,260 but how has all this affected him? 2265 01:34:40,364 --> 01:34:42,228 -I was given a few roles from time to time. 2266 01:34:42,331 --> 01:34:44,817 but "Child's Play II" was not one of them. 2267 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,820 I had to audition like every other mother's son. 2268 01:34:47,923 --> 01:34:49,442 -I was thrilled to work with him 2269 01:34:49,545 --> 01:34:53,032 because he had been in a couple of early DePalma films, 2270 01:34:53,135 --> 01:34:54,930 including "Phantom of the Paradise," 2271 01:34:55,034 --> 01:34:57,208 which I loved, so just meeting him 2272 01:34:57,312 --> 01:34:58,762 was a real thrill for me. 2273 01:34:58,865 --> 01:35:01,385 -"I'm alive, I'm alive. 2274 01:35:01,488 --> 01:35:03,594 Then the talking cricket said." What did he say? 2275 01:35:03,698 --> 01:35:08,012 -I had just done "Rain Man," and it had changed my life. 2276 01:35:08,116 --> 01:35:11,636 And one of the first auditions that I was called for 2277 01:35:11,740 --> 01:35:13,155 was "Child's Play II." 2278 01:35:13,259 --> 01:35:15,433 So I called my friend Dinah Manoff, 2279 01:35:15,537 --> 01:35:19,714 and I said, "I'm thinking about doing a horror movie. 2280 01:35:19,817 --> 01:35:21,992 I read this script and it's so good." 2281 01:35:22,095 --> 01:35:23,303 And she said, "Well, what's it called?" 2282 01:35:23,407 --> 01:35:24,753 I said, "Child's Play II." 2283 01:35:24,857 --> 01:35:26,548 What do you think? And she said, "Well..." 2284 01:35:26,651 --> 01:35:31,864 I suggest that you rent "Child's Play" the original 2285 01:35:31,967 --> 01:35:34,245 and you will find that I am in it. 2286 01:35:34,349 --> 01:35:36,972 -I totally forgot about that. That's true. 2287 01:35:37,076 --> 01:35:38,422 [Typewriter clacking] 2288 01:35:38,525 --> 01:35:39,595 -I did go to the audition 2289 01:35:39,699 --> 01:35:41,114 because I loved the character, 2290 01:35:41,218 --> 01:35:42,288 I knew her. 2291 01:35:42,391 --> 01:35:43,979 I was so happy that it worked out. 2292 01:35:44,083 --> 01:35:46,154 -With the film well, on its way to production, 2293 01:35:46,257 --> 01:35:48,535 the filmmakers were given a surprising 2294 01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:50,261 behind the scenes jolt 2295 01:35:50,365 --> 01:35:53,333 that would alter the course of this potential new franchise. 2296 01:35:53,437 --> 01:35:58,304 -So we developed the script for "Child's Play II" at UA, 2297 01:35:58,407 --> 01:36:00,824 but it was a different administration 2298 01:36:00,927 --> 01:36:02,377 than "Child's Play" one. 2299 01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:05,898 The studio got sold to an Australian company 2300 01:36:06,001 --> 01:36:09,694 called Qintex, sort of family-friendly brand. 2301 01:36:09,798 --> 01:36:13,077 -My office called and said, "I have some really bad news. 2302 01:36:13,181 --> 01:36:16,529 The gentleman that is going to be buying United Artists 2303 01:36:16,632 --> 01:36:20,809 does not want to make a film like this, and I was furious. 2304 01:36:20,913 --> 01:36:22,915 Here we deliver a film that is the second 2305 01:36:23,018 --> 01:36:24,709 highest grossing film of the year for you. 2306 01:36:24,813 --> 01:36:26,401 I was really angry and hurt. 2307 01:36:26,504 --> 01:36:29,991 -They gave David the rights to it free and clear, 2308 01:36:30,094 --> 01:36:32,027 because they had an overall deal with David, 2309 01:36:32,131 --> 01:36:33,753 and they wanted to keep him happy. 2310 01:36:33,857 --> 01:36:35,444 -I turned to my attorney, and he said, 2311 01:36:35,548 --> 01:36:37,550 "Everybody is going to be calling about this film." 2312 01:36:37,653 --> 01:36:39,586 -And it landed at Universal. 2313 01:36:39,690 --> 01:36:42,313 -Within 24 hours, I get a call from Steven Spielberg 2314 01:36:42,417 --> 01:36:44,488 saying, "Listen, you made your first film 2315 01:36:44,591 --> 01:36:46,179 with me at Universal. 2316 01:36:46,283 --> 01:36:48,941 Can you do me the favor of just bringing it to them first 2317 01:36:49,044 --> 01:36:50,494 and giving them your wish list?" 2318 01:36:50,597 --> 01:36:52,427 And I said, "Okay, okay." 2319 01:36:52,530 --> 01:36:55,154 You know, I mean, anything for Steven Spielberg. 2320 01:36:55,257 --> 01:36:57,673 I didn't go anywhere else. I just went to Universal. 2321 01:36:57,777 --> 01:36:58,951 -And John and I were thrilled. 2322 01:36:59,054 --> 01:37:00,469 It's just Universal and "Jaws" 2323 01:37:00,573 --> 01:37:02,955 and all the history of Universal monsters, 2324 01:37:03,058 --> 01:37:05,095 that was the place we wanted to end up. 2325 01:37:05,198 --> 01:37:06,751 -Thanks to Steven Spielberg, 2326 01:37:06,855 --> 01:37:09,478 which is such an amazing thing to even say. 2327 01:37:09,582 --> 01:37:12,274 -The surprise shift in film studios complete, 2328 01:37:12,378 --> 01:37:15,139 principal photography on Chucky's sophomore outing 2329 01:37:15,243 --> 01:37:19,005 at last began on November 6, 1989, 2330 01:37:19,109 --> 01:37:23,768 with a 55-day shooting schedule and a $12 million budget. 2331 01:37:23,872 --> 01:37:25,080 -The "Child's Play II" set 2332 01:37:25,184 --> 01:37:27,427 was a really friendly, happy set. 2333 01:37:27,531 --> 01:37:30,361 I think that that tone was mostly due 2334 01:37:30,465 --> 01:37:32,225 to John Lafia's kindness. 2335 01:37:32,329 --> 01:37:36,057 -My memories of John were polite again, trusting director. 2336 01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,300 I don't remember him yelling or anything like that. 2337 01:37:38,404 --> 01:37:40,716 -It was certainly a very smooth set. 2338 01:37:40,820 --> 01:37:41,959 -It looked like he was having fun. 2339 01:37:42,063 --> 01:37:43,927 -This was my first experience 2340 01:37:44,030 --> 01:37:46,412 being on set and I was there all the time. 2341 01:37:46,515 --> 01:37:49,001 -John was of course very busy as the director, 2342 01:37:49,104 --> 01:37:50,692 but Don really pays attention. 2343 01:37:50,795 --> 01:37:52,314 -He just like a kid in a candy store. 2344 01:37:52,418 --> 01:37:54,799 He was just so excited to be around his baby, really. 2345 01:37:54,903 --> 01:37:56,111 And to be accepted. too, 2346 01:37:56,215 --> 01:37:57,285 you know, not to be an outcast. 2347 01:37:57,388 --> 01:37:59,011 -I think all of that contributed 2348 01:37:59,114 --> 01:38:00,702 to a really safe environment. 2349 01:38:00,805 --> 01:38:06,328 There's a lot of laughing in that behind the scenes stuff. 2350 01:38:06,432 --> 01:38:08,986 -The opening sequence, I got to storyboard. 2351 01:38:09,090 --> 01:38:11,057 Which was fun, and those are my hands 2352 01:38:11,161 --> 01:38:12,921 putting the doll together and everything. 2353 01:38:13,025 --> 01:38:15,890 -We all shared this love of like, 2354 01:38:15,993 --> 01:38:20,308 the dark side of fairy tales. 2355 01:38:20,411 --> 01:38:22,517 -I believe we made the aluminum device 2356 01:38:22,620 --> 01:38:23,932 that held his eyes, 2357 01:38:24,036 --> 01:38:25,244 and that we had to build a special head 2358 01:38:25,347 --> 01:38:26,693 just for the insert of the eyes. 2359 01:38:26,797 --> 01:38:27,832 [Electricity crackling] 2360 01:38:27,936 --> 01:38:29,524 -[Screaming shakily] 2361 01:38:29,627 --> 01:38:32,182 -The actor playing one of the technicians was funny. 2362 01:38:32,285 --> 01:38:33,942 It was a fun set. It was great. 2363 01:38:34,046 --> 01:38:35,081 I think it was one of the first things we did do. 2364 01:38:35,185 --> 01:38:36,876 -My stomach hurts, Mattson. 2365 01:38:36,980 --> 01:38:38,533 Is this what you call good news? 2366 01:38:38,636 --> 01:38:40,638 -I had an interesting connection to Peter Haskell. 2367 01:38:40,742 --> 01:38:43,365 I worked on a soap opera called "Search for Tomorrow," 2368 01:38:43,469 --> 01:38:46,472 an NBC soap opera, and I worked on the tech crew. 2369 01:38:46,575 --> 01:38:49,751 But Peter Haskell was on "Search for Tomorrow," 2370 01:38:49,854 --> 01:38:51,753 and he was really nice to me. 2371 01:38:51,856 --> 01:38:54,376 -You smother this and you're out of here in 24 hours. 2372 01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:57,724 you got that? -His favorite line in the movie. 2373 01:38:57,828 --> 01:39:00,106 -Stick it up your ass. -I don't know why he loved it. 2374 01:39:00,210 --> 01:39:01,418 He just thought that was hilarious. 2375 01:39:01,521 --> 01:39:03,351 -Andy's fine now. 2376 01:39:03,454 --> 01:39:05,905 He just wants to get on with his life. 2377 01:39:06,009 --> 01:39:08,149 -Grace Zabriskie, one of my heroes, 2378 01:39:08,252 --> 01:39:09,944 one of my role models 2379 01:39:10,047 --> 01:39:12,187 as a character actress was in the movie. 2380 01:39:12,291 --> 01:39:14,396 -The character's name, Grace Poole, 2381 01:39:14,500 --> 01:39:17,020 who is a character from Jane Eyre. 2382 01:39:17,123 --> 01:39:18,676 The figure was like someone 2383 01:39:18,780 --> 01:39:21,714 who is like assigning foster families and such grace. 2384 01:39:21,817 --> 01:39:22,853 -She's the greatest. 2385 01:39:22,957 --> 01:39:24,579 We hung with the same crowd. 2386 01:39:24,682 --> 01:39:28,376 We did and said things that wouldn't bear repeating 2387 01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,172 on a nice family documentary like this. 2388 01:39:31,275 --> 01:39:33,243 One of the things I thought was really interesting 2389 01:39:33,346 --> 01:39:35,555 about the script for "Child's Play II" 2390 01:39:35,659 --> 01:39:39,559 was that it explored further the issue of family. 2391 01:39:39,663 --> 01:39:41,768 In the first one, we had a single mom, 2392 01:39:41,872 --> 01:39:46,083 and now we had Andy being taken in by foster parents. 2393 01:39:46,187 --> 01:39:48,465 -I think they didn't really care that much about Andy, 2394 01:39:48,568 --> 01:39:51,019 and I don't think Andy really cared that much about them. 2395 01:39:51,123 --> 01:39:53,849 -Andy, rule number two no running in the house. 2396 01:39:53,953 --> 01:39:56,300 -I took him as pissed off about the fact 2397 01:39:56,404 --> 01:39:57,715 that they didn't have a child yet. 2398 01:39:57,819 --> 01:39:59,476 So this notion of his anger 2399 01:39:59,579 --> 01:40:02,444 lent itself to a certain impatience. 2400 01:40:02,548 --> 01:40:05,896 You could tell that there's something going on with Phil 2401 01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:07,863 that is unspoken. 2402 01:40:07,967 --> 01:40:09,003 Bang! 2403 01:40:09,106 --> 01:40:10,452 [Water squirts] You're dead. 2404 01:40:10,556 --> 01:40:11,764 -[Crying shakily] 2405 01:40:11,867 --> 01:40:13,214 -[Maniacal laughter] 2406 01:40:13,317 --> 01:40:14,732 -The second film, Mattson's death 2407 01:40:14,836 --> 01:40:17,183 was reminiscent of the Chris Sarandon car scene. 2408 01:40:17,287 --> 01:40:18,978 I think it was a little bit of a tip of the hat 2409 01:40:19,082 --> 01:40:20,566 or homage to that first film. 2410 01:40:20,669 --> 01:40:24,328 -In those days, the genre was a little bit camp 2411 01:40:24,432 --> 01:40:28,884 and still under the influence of the earlier camp stuff. 2412 01:40:28,988 --> 01:40:31,025 "Dr. Phibes" kind of started that, 2413 01:40:31,128 --> 01:40:33,096 where it was a little bit campy, 2414 01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:34,545 and the murders are, you know... 2415 01:40:34,649 --> 01:40:36,340 [Whooshing] 2416 01:40:36,444 --> 01:40:39,343 -[Screams] 2417 01:40:39,447 --> 01:40:41,414 -...have to be fun and gory. 2418 01:40:41,518 --> 01:40:43,382 -I was concerned about the bag, you know, 2419 01:40:43,485 --> 01:40:46,178 choking the actor because we had to tie Chucky's hands into it. 2420 01:40:46,281 --> 01:40:47,869 And so we had to quickly make sure 2421 01:40:47,972 --> 01:40:49,560 he could breathe in between takes 2422 01:40:49,664 --> 01:40:51,873 because he was sucking that plastic down into his throat. 2423 01:40:51,976 --> 01:40:54,945 I didn't want to kill the actor with the plastic bag. 2424 01:40:55,049 --> 01:40:56,291 -Hi! I'm Tommy. 2425 01:40:56,395 --> 01:40:58,259 -Shut up, you idiot. 2426 01:40:58,362 --> 01:41:02,228 -I heard that the naming was a direct link to Tom Holland, 2427 01:41:02,332 --> 01:41:05,197 but I can't deny or confirm for sure. 2428 01:41:05,300 --> 01:41:07,647 -Yeah, it's Tom Holland. Definitely. Yeah. 2429 01:41:07,751 --> 01:41:12,756 John and I both had a bit of an axe to grind. 2430 01:41:12,859 --> 01:41:14,482 "Eat dirt, Tommy." 2431 01:41:14,585 --> 01:41:16,380 -Eat dirt, Tommy. 2432 01:41:16,484 --> 01:41:18,002 [Laughs] 2433 01:41:18,106 --> 01:41:19,383 -The whole bait and switch, 2434 01:41:19,487 --> 01:41:21,972 the idea of, like, there being another doll 2435 01:41:22,076 --> 01:41:23,939 and Chucky taking his place 2436 01:41:24,043 --> 01:41:26,218 and burying the other one in the backyard, 2437 01:41:26,321 --> 01:41:28,841 again, there's something very fairytale-ish 2438 01:41:28,944 --> 01:41:30,014 about all of that. 2439 01:41:30,118 --> 01:41:32,603 -I'm innocent. 2440 01:41:32,707 --> 01:41:33,811 -Andy? 2441 01:41:33,915 --> 01:41:35,468 -I didn't do it. 2442 01:41:35,572 --> 01:41:38,195 -In that home, Andy definitely needed 2443 01:41:38,299 --> 01:41:39,645 more help and support 2444 01:41:39,748 --> 01:41:42,303 from his foster parents than Christine. 2445 01:41:42,406 --> 01:41:45,720 She was practiced already at taking care of herself. 2446 01:41:45,823 --> 01:41:49,275 -The scenes that I had with Alex were really fun, 2447 01:41:49,379 --> 01:41:51,312 and he had the entire script memorized. 2448 01:41:51,415 --> 01:41:53,383 He was difficult to ad lib with. 2449 01:41:53,486 --> 01:41:55,902 I'm naturally a little ad-libby. 2450 01:41:56,006 --> 01:41:58,146 -I remember that line that I said to her, you know... 2451 01:41:58,250 --> 01:42:01,874 -Want to hear me say your name backwards? 2452 01:42:01,977 --> 01:42:02,978 Kyle. 2453 01:42:03,082 --> 01:42:04,221 -He added that to the script. 2454 01:42:04,325 --> 01:42:05,567 At least that's what Alex says. 2455 01:42:05,671 --> 01:42:07,328 That's his story. He's sticking to it. 2456 01:42:07,431 --> 01:42:09,744 -That was stolen from Mr. Volpi, my music teacher. 2457 01:42:09,847 --> 01:42:11,263 [Indistinct chatter] 2458 01:42:11,366 --> 01:42:13,782 I had a good scene or two with Miss Kettlewell. 2459 01:42:13,886 --> 01:42:17,200 This teacher was kind of a bitch to Andy right from the start. 2460 01:42:17,303 --> 01:42:19,892 -She's a control freak, and she won't listen. 2461 01:42:19,995 --> 01:42:23,378 Andy does everything he can to try to save the day, 2462 01:42:23,482 --> 01:42:25,656 but she doesn't listen. 2463 01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:26,726 -Sit down and get comfy. 2464 01:42:26,830 --> 01:42:28,556 You're going to be here for a while. 2465 01:42:28,659 --> 01:42:30,213 -Miss Kettlewell was the personification 2466 01:42:30,316 --> 01:42:32,629 of the obtuse adult... 2467 01:42:32,732 --> 01:42:33,975 -Head down! 2468 01:42:34,078 --> 01:42:36,426 -...who just won't listen to the kid. 2469 01:42:36,529 --> 01:42:39,049 And, of course, she pays dearly for it. 2470 01:42:39,153 --> 01:42:41,534 -She was a lot like a P.E. teacher 2471 01:42:41,638 --> 01:42:45,642 that I had had and other people that I knew, very rigid. 2472 01:42:45,745 --> 01:42:48,541 -We have all had that horrible person 2473 01:42:48,645 --> 01:42:52,752 whose way of controlling you is through humiliation. 2474 01:42:52,856 --> 01:42:55,893 And we have all been humiliated by teachers. 2475 01:42:55,997 --> 01:42:59,311 -To get to play that character who's not listening, 2476 01:42:59,414 --> 01:43:02,624 and if she had listened, she would have lived, 2477 01:43:02,728 --> 01:43:03,832 just thrilled me. 2478 01:43:03,936 --> 01:43:06,007 -Aah! -[Gasps] 2479 01:43:06,110 --> 01:43:07,526 [Air pump hisses] [Kettlewell screams] 2480 01:43:07,629 --> 01:43:09,838 -That whole sequence of Miss Kettlewell's death, 2481 01:43:09,942 --> 01:43:11,357 it's shocking. 2482 01:43:11,461 --> 01:43:13,497 -They did have a stuntwoman do the actual fall. 2483 01:43:13,601 --> 01:43:16,224 I wanted to do it, but they insisted. 2484 01:43:16,328 --> 01:43:18,502 They got her little bun and her same outfit. 2485 01:43:18,606 --> 01:43:22,437 And John Lafia really wanted a pretty violent fall. 2486 01:43:22,541 --> 01:43:25,199 I mean, she hit 3 or 4 desks at once and then fell over, 2487 01:43:25,302 --> 01:43:27,201 and then she had to have the wherewithal 2488 01:43:27,304 --> 01:43:29,203 to cover her face with her arm. 2489 01:43:29,306 --> 01:43:30,928 -Chucky's gonna kill Beth Grant, 2490 01:43:31,032 --> 01:43:34,518 and he emerges from the closet with the ruler and says... 2491 01:43:34,622 --> 01:43:40,662 -You've been very naughty, Miss Kettlewell. 2492 01:43:40,766 --> 01:43:42,388 -He's got that ruler. It was tough to kind of get him 2493 01:43:42,492 --> 01:43:45,357 to smack at the right speed and then also catch it. 2494 01:43:45,460 --> 01:43:47,807 -We tried a walking rig that worked really well. 2495 01:43:47,911 --> 01:43:51,846 -All the cables ran behind the puppet's back, 2496 01:43:51,949 --> 01:43:53,261 and the boom 2497 01:43:53,365 --> 01:43:54,987 and all the paraphernalia that went with it 2498 01:43:55,090 --> 01:43:57,645 was actually a hole in the wall of the closet. 2499 01:43:57,748 --> 01:44:00,510 -I remember John spending pretty much a day 2500 01:44:00,613 --> 01:44:02,512 doing like a couple of shots there, 2501 01:44:02,615 --> 01:44:04,686 and I think that there was a lot of pressure 2502 01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:08,897 from above to like, "Dude, you got to move on." 2503 01:44:09,001 --> 01:44:11,728 -Aah! 2504 01:44:11,831 --> 01:44:14,109 -Again, a great Don Mancini death. 2505 01:44:14,213 --> 01:44:15,939 Whoever thinks of being beaten to death 2506 01:44:16,042 --> 01:44:17,492 with a ruler? Don Mancini does. 2507 01:44:17,596 --> 01:44:19,667 -That was kind of for all those Catholic school kids. 2508 01:44:19,770 --> 01:44:22,186 -Miss Kettlewell's death I was not on set for it, 2509 01:44:22,290 --> 01:44:23,774 but I wish I had been. 2510 01:44:23,878 --> 01:44:27,191 It was definitely my favorite kill of the franchise. 2511 01:44:27,295 --> 01:44:28,572 -Well, it starts off being played for laughs, 2512 01:44:28,676 --> 01:44:31,575 and then that, too, gets pretty dismal. 2513 01:44:31,679 --> 01:44:33,405 -For me, it was hilarious. 2514 01:44:33,508 --> 01:44:36,649 When I'm lying on the ground, screaming, screaming, 2515 01:44:36,753 --> 01:44:39,411 but it's the seven guys plus Chucky that are coming at you. 2516 01:44:39,514 --> 01:44:41,516 It's quite easy to get into the moment. 2517 01:44:41,620 --> 01:44:43,277 When we had to loop the screams 2518 01:44:43,380 --> 01:44:46,003 on the looping stage later, I was such a nut. 2519 01:44:46,107 --> 01:44:48,489 I mean, I took my acting way too seriously back then, 2520 01:44:48,592 --> 01:44:50,387 and I would go over in the corner, 2521 01:44:50,491 --> 01:44:53,252 and I would re-create my death, 2522 01:44:53,356 --> 01:44:55,565 and I would, "Ohh! Ohh!", 2523 01:44:55,668 --> 01:44:58,084 and then I would go to the microphone and go, 2524 01:44:58,188 --> 01:45:00,121 "Ahh! Ahh!" 2525 01:45:00,224 --> 01:45:01,743 I mean, ridiculous. 2526 01:45:01,847 --> 01:45:03,504 -There was a lot of things to figure out. 2527 01:45:03,607 --> 01:45:04,953 We had to do a lot of things with camera speed, 2528 01:45:05,057 --> 01:45:06,576 walk slower, talk slower and then speed it up. 2529 01:45:06,679 --> 01:45:08,543 So we did a lot of those kind of tricks. 2530 01:45:08,647 --> 01:45:10,338 -I got to go on set and puppeteer, 2531 01:45:10,442 --> 01:45:14,549 and I was his brows, his snarls, and his tongue. 2532 01:45:14,653 --> 01:45:17,034 And we also had a joke on that, that I was his liver, 2533 01:45:17,138 --> 01:45:20,210 because we would all go on Friday nights and go drinking. 2534 01:45:20,314 --> 01:45:21,901 -Joanne, the child needs professional help! 2535 01:45:22,005 --> 01:45:24,283 -Oh, stop pretending you're worried about Andy. 2536 01:45:24,387 --> 01:45:25,940 You never wanted him here in the first place. 2537 01:45:26,043 --> 01:45:28,287 -Jenny's character, she was gonna do her damnedest 2538 01:45:28,391 --> 01:45:29,633 to be a good mom, 2539 01:45:29,737 --> 01:45:32,464 whereas Phil, the redoubtable Phil, 2540 01:45:32,567 --> 01:45:36,191 was not that keen on being a foster dad. 2541 01:45:36,295 --> 01:45:38,228 -Phil's death scene is my favorite kill. 2542 01:45:38,332 --> 01:45:40,126 It's one of the best moments for Chucky. 2543 01:45:40,230 --> 01:45:43,544 -[Screaming] 2544 01:45:43,647 --> 01:45:45,546 -It's one of my favorite one-liners of the film. 2545 01:45:45,649 --> 01:45:47,237 -How's it hanging, Phil? 2546 01:45:47,341 --> 01:45:49,239 -I wanted Brad whispering that in my ear. 2547 01:45:49,343 --> 01:45:50,792 "How's it hanging, Phil?" 2548 01:45:50,896 --> 01:45:52,932 -That character was a jerk, so he deserved it. 2549 01:45:53,036 --> 01:45:55,556 So I was rooting for Chucky in that one. 2550 01:45:55,659 --> 01:45:59,076 -That basement set needed 6 feet above the stage floor 2551 01:45:59,180 --> 01:46:00,768 for all the puppeteers to go. 2552 01:46:00,871 --> 01:46:03,184 -When Phil lands and, pbt!, snaps his neck, 2553 01:46:03,287 --> 01:46:06,014 that was shot in reverse. 2554 01:46:06,118 --> 01:46:08,292 -[Screams] 2555 01:46:08,396 --> 01:46:10,502 -It started with me on the floor, 2556 01:46:10,605 --> 01:46:12,918 and a rope around my foot -- action! -- 2557 01:46:13,021 --> 01:46:14,678 and they pulled me up out of the shot 2558 01:46:14,782 --> 01:46:16,577 as fast as they could. And when they printed it, 2559 01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,131 they ran it in reverse, obviously. 2560 01:46:19,234 --> 01:46:21,167 But I never felt -- 2561 01:46:21,271 --> 01:46:22,893 I mean, I've done some stunts. 2562 01:46:22,997 --> 01:46:26,483 I should have listened to that nagging voice on my shoulder 2563 01:46:26,587 --> 01:46:28,382 saying, "Are you fucking crazy? 2564 01:46:28,485 --> 01:46:31,523 These people are gonna kill you!" 2565 01:46:31,626 --> 01:46:34,491 Phil didn't listen, and now he's dead. 2566 01:46:34,595 --> 01:46:36,390 -It's one of the best moments for Chucky. 2567 01:46:36,493 --> 01:46:39,910 And Jenny Agutter's screams are gut-wrenching. 2568 01:46:40,014 --> 01:46:41,774 It's a really great performance from her. 2569 01:46:41,878 --> 01:46:43,845 -Oh, God! No! 2570 01:46:43,949 --> 01:46:46,710 -Jenny Agutter was very unhappy on this movie. 2571 01:46:46,814 --> 01:46:48,367 -She hated her experience. 2572 01:46:48,471 --> 01:46:50,058 I think the role embarrassed her. 2573 01:46:50,162 --> 01:46:53,441 -I think her relationship with John was a little contentious, 2574 01:46:53,545 --> 01:46:55,581 'cause I think she felt that John's attention 2575 01:46:55,685 --> 01:46:57,825 was too on effects. 2576 01:46:57,928 --> 01:47:01,691 Actors understandably get frustrated 2577 01:47:01,794 --> 01:47:03,589 that Chucky's the star, and the puppet 2578 01:47:03,693 --> 01:47:07,248 is going to get more takes than the human actors. 2579 01:47:07,351 --> 01:47:08,905 -The doll had to get it right. 2580 01:47:09,008 --> 01:47:11,355 So you might do 19 takes to have the doll get it right, 2581 01:47:11,459 --> 01:47:13,047 and if he gets it right, 2582 01:47:13,150 --> 01:47:15,014 they're gonna use that take even if you sucked in it. 2583 01:47:15,118 --> 01:47:17,534 ♪♪ 2584 01:47:17,638 --> 01:47:19,605 My favorite sequence is, Kyle realizes 2585 01:47:19,709 --> 01:47:23,644 that Chucky is -- actually might be real. 2586 01:47:23,747 --> 01:47:25,887 I had just worked with Johnny Depp on "21 Jump Street," 2587 01:47:25,991 --> 01:47:27,648 and I learned a lot from watching him 2588 01:47:27,751 --> 01:47:28,994 just commit to things 2589 01:47:29,097 --> 01:47:30,789 that might have seemed embarrassing, 2590 01:47:30,892 --> 01:47:32,687 but they're only embarrassing if you don't commit. 2591 01:47:32,791 --> 01:47:35,379 -My favorite scene in that film is when Christine Elise 2592 01:47:35,483 --> 01:47:36,967 is moving up the stairs, 2593 01:47:37,071 --> 01:47:39,418 and you're just hearing the sound of a sewing machine. 2594 01:47:39,522 --> 01:47:41,455 [Sewing machine clacking] 2595 01:47:41,558 --> 01:47:43,974 -John Lafia's approach to making the movie 2596 01:47:44,078 --> 01:47:45,735 was extremely dynamic. 2597 01:47:45,838 --> 01:47:49,393 -You come into the room, and she turns the chair around, 2598 01:47:49,497 --> 01:47:51,879 and you see what she looks like. 2599 01:47:51,982 --> 01:47:53,777 ♪♪ 2600 01:47:53,881 --> 01:47:56,400 -Production-wise, it means moving the camera a lot, 2601 01:47:56,504 --> 01:47:58,023 which is time-consuming. 2602 01:47:58,126 --> 01:48:00,957 -John did a great job directing it. It's really scary. 2603 01:48:01,060 --> 01:48:03,718 ♪♪ 2604 01:48:03,822 --> 01:48:05,030 -Aah! 2605 01:48:05,133 --> 01:48:06,825 -That was the hardest for me, physically. 2606 01:48:06,928 --> 01:48:08,343 They strapped the doll on you, 2607 01:48:08,447 --> 01:48:09,793 and it's one of the dolls that just kicks. 2608 01:48:09,897 --> 01:48:11,968 So his legs just do this constantly, 2609 01:48:12,071 --> 01:48:14,384 and then you've got to sell all the rest of the action. 2610 01:48:14,488 --> 01:48:16,731 Throw myself against the walls, throw yourself against the bed. 2611 01:48:16,835 --> 01:48:18,215 You know, you feel like a fool. 2612 01:48:18,319 --> 01:48:19,493 [Grunting] 2613 01:48:19,596 --> 01:48:21,425 And because Don is such a cinephile 2614 01:48:21,529 --> 01:48:23,531 and prone to homages, 2615 01:48:23,635 --> 01:48:27,328 that was my Catherine Hicks moment in the film. 2616 01:48:27,431 --> 01:48:28,467 -What are you looking at? 2617 01:48:28,571 --> 01:48:29,779 -People don't realize the doll 2618 01:48:29,882 --> 01:48:31,884 isn't inherently mean-looking, 2619 01:48:31,988 --> 01:48:34,473 and the puppeteers can make him do anything they want. 2620 01:48:34,577 --> 01:48:36,130 So in between takes in the car, 2621 01:48:36,233 --> 01:48:38,270 they would have Chucky reaching over and caressing my thigh 2622 01:48:38,373 --> 01:48:40,652 and batting his eyelashes at me and being super cute. 2623 01:48:40,755 --> 01:48:42,377 And at one point, I turned over, 2624 01:48:42,481 --> 01:48:45,173 and I went in for the kiss, and they caught that still. 2625 01:48:45,277 --> 01:48:48,038 It's one of my favorite photos from the entire franchise. 2626 01:48:48,142 --> 01:48:49,937 -I got to direct Chucky. 2627 01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,146 I heard that John kind of said, "Okay, 2628 01:48:52,249 --> 01:48:53,837 that's enough of Kevin's directing Chucky." 2629 01:48:53,941 --> 01:48:55,736 Knowing that he was the star, he was like, 2630 01:48:55,839 --> 01:48:57,220 "He's having all the fun. I'm having to direct actors, 2631 01:48:57,323 --> 01:48:58,946 and he gets to direct this." 2632 01:48:59,049 --> 01:49:01,811 So I noticed my job went from directing Chucky 2633 01:49:01,914 --> 01:49:04,434 now to directing cars driving down the street. 2634 01:49:04,538 --> 01:49:07,610 [Siren wails, tires screech] 2635 01:49:07,713 --> 01:49:09,266 -The cop stuff was shot first, 2636 01:49:09,370 --> 01:49:11,165 and it was shot at like 4:30 in the morning, 2637 01:49:11,268 --> 01:49:13,995 and we couldn't get around to my stuff on the night. 2638 01:49:14,099 --> 01:49:15,721 That got pushed to the end of the schedule, 2639 01:49:15,825 --> 01:49:18,103 and I did all my side of that dialogue with the... 2640 01:49:18,206 --> 01:49:20,312 -You seen dolls that pee? 2641 01:49:20,415 --> 01:49:21,589 This one bleeds. 2642 01:49:21,693 --> 01:49:23,764 It's on stage, weeks later. 2643 01:49:23,867 --> 01:49:24,730 [Alarm bell ringing] 2644 01:49:24,834 --> 01:49:26,249 -Get into my office. 2645 01:49:26,352 --> 01:49:29,010 -Grace Zabriskie was an edgy non-ally to Alex. 2646 01:49:29,114 --> 01:49:30,702 The most important thing for the franchise 2647 01:49:30,805 --> 01:49:32,842 is that nobody believes that Chucky is real, 2648 01:49:32,945 --> 01:49:35,223 and I think she pulled that off very well. 2649 01:49:35,327 --> 01:49:37,053 -Is this your idea of a joke? 2650 01:49:37,156 --> 01:49:39,814 -I had only had a couple scenes with Grace Zabriskie. 2651 01:49:39,918 --> 01:49:41,747 The one scene that I remember is right before her death 2652 01:49:41,851 --> 01:49:43,093 at the copy machine. 2653 01:49:43,197 --> 01:49:45,233 In that room, when we were filming, 2654 01:49:45,337 --> 01:49:49,479 a massive stage light fell and landed right on my head. 2655 01:49:49,583 --> 01:49:51,861 -Amazing isn't it? 2656 01:49:51,964 --> 01:49:52,586 -[Gasps] 2657 01:49:52,689 --> 01:49:53,966 [Screams] 2658 01:49:54,070 --> 01:49:55,278 -Grace's death. 2659 01:49:55,381 --> 01:49:57,521 It's the photocopier that makes it memorable. 2660 01:49:57,625 --> 01:49:59,144 -[Screaming] 2661 01:49:59,247 --> 01:50:01,249 -She was also an amazing screamer, 2662 01:50:01,353 --> 01:50:04,011 and I just thought the idea of someone getting their face 2663 01:50:04,114 --> 01:50:07,117 photocopied as they're dying was interesting. 2664 01:50:07,221 --> 01:50:11,743 -I think the deaths, on a whole, had a torture aspect to them. 2665 01:50:11,846 --> 01:50:14,331 -My initial thought when I was watching that scene was, 2666 01:50:14,435 --> 01:50:17,749 God, I wish I had one of those Xeroxes and frame it 2667 01:50:17,852 --> 01:50:19,336 and put it up on the wall. 2668 01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:22,201 you know, of Grace going... 2669 01:50:22,305 --> 01:50:24,618 ♪♪ 2670 01:50:24,721 --> 01:50:26,999 -I don't think there's any particular reason 2671 01:50:27,103 --> 01:50:30,209 why Chucky needs to take Andy to the toy factory. 2672 01:50:30,313 --> 01:50:33,178 Unless he was maybe trying out a new voodoo spell 2673 01:50:33,281 --> 01:50:34,869 that he hadn't really figured out. 2674 01:50:34,973 --> 01:50:36,457 It's a good thing to assume 2675 01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:37,769 if you need some clarification there. 2676 01:50:37,872 --> 01:50:40,116 -The factory was really exciting, 2677 01:50:40,219 --> 01:50:42,152 and I was so thrilled that we were actually 2678 01:50:42,256 --> 01:50:43,913 gonna be able to put that on screen, 2679 01:50:44,016 --> 01:50:46,743 since it had been cut from number one. 2680 01:50:46,847 --> 01:50:47,882 -All the stuff in the warehouse 2681 01:50:47,986 --> 01:50:49,573 was super fun to shoot. 2682 01:50:49,677 --> 01:50:52,197 You know, all these really dark, sinister things are happening 2683 01:50:52,300 --> 01:50:54,440 in this incredibly colorful setting. 2684 01:50:54,544 --> 01:50:58,099 -Just, like, seeing the various machines and doing the gags, 2685 01:50:58,203 --> 01:51:01,033 and, you know, John and I were big "Shining" fans. 2686 01:51:01,137 --> 01:51:02,828 -I'm coming! 2687 01:51:02,932 --> 01:51:05,762 -And so we did that maze with the boxes. 2688 01:51:05,866 --> 01:51:07,833 -There were 80 million of those boxes 2689 01:51:07,937 --> 01:51:10,629 that they had manufactured to be all stacked up. 2690 01:51:10,733 --> 01:51:12,320 Like a jackass, I never got one. 2691 01:51:12,424 --> 01:51:13,597 I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. 2692 01:51:13,701 --> 01:51:15,323 I didn't take one. 2693 01:51:15,427 --> 01:51:17,118 -There were two different types of boxes for background, 2694 01:51:17,222 --> 01:51:19,500 in which there was only a photograph of the doll, 2695 01:51:19,603 --> 01:51:22,434 and it made it look like it was underneath cellophane, 2696 01:51:22,537 --> 01:51:26,058 and it was about 500, in which we had cellophane front 2697 01:51:26,162 --> 01:51:28,440 and an actual doll in the box itself. 2698 01:51:28,543 --> 01:51:32,547 -I was just amazed at how imaginative Ivo Cristante was 2699 01:51:32,651 --> 01:51:34,273 in coming up with that set. 2700 01:51:34,377 --> 01:51:37,518 -John Lafia, the director, gave me an awful lot of freedom, 2701 01:51:37,621 --> 01:51:38,795 and he says, "What I want 2702 01:51:38,899 --> 01:51:41,556 is an insidious-looking Disneyland." 2703 01:51:41,660 --> 01:51:44,007 -Hiding us was an issue, you know, 2704 01:51:44,111 --> 01:51:46,044 because in that one set, it's kind of open. 2705 01:51:46,147 --> 01:51:47,942 But Kevin was really good at helping the director 2706 01:51:48,046 --> 01:51:49,668 figure out how to get those angles 2707 01:51:49,772 --> 01:51:50,945 without too much trouble. 2708 01:51:51,049 --> 01:51:53,568 And strike, go! -Cut it. 2709 01:51:53,672 --> 01:51:55,881 -The set was built at Thatcher Glass, 2710 01:51:55,985 --> 01:51:58,504 this enormous warehouse in Valencia, California, 2711 01:51:58,608 --> 01:52:02,405 too big to fit into any of the soundstages at Universal. 2712 01:52:02,508 --> 01:52:03,820 That's why we went up there. 2713 01:52:03,924 --> 01:52:07,582 -The factory is like a Vegas casino. 2714 01:52:07,686 --> 01:52:09,101 [Ringing] 2715 01:52:09,205 --> 01:52:11,069 It seems much easier to get in 2716 01:52:11,172 --> 01:52:13,105 than to find your way back out of it again. 2717 01:52:13,209 --> 01:52:14,244 -Let's go! 2718 01:52:14,348 --> 01:52:15,521 I'll go first. 2719 01:52:15,625 --> 01:52:17,109 Stay right behind me. 2720 01:52:17,213 --> 01:52:18,939 -The warehouse was like a maze, 2721 01:52:19,042 --> 01:52:21,079 so maybe we thought we had to go up to get out. 2722 01:52:21,182 --> 01:52:24,910 -The climax of that film, in the toy factory, 2723 01:52:25,014 --> 01:52:27,430 with all of the mechanics that are going on 2724 01:52:27,533 --> 01:52:30,019 and the building of a doll, is staggering. 2725 01:52:30,122 --> 01:52:31,745 -Things are coming in from all sides. 2726 01:52:31,848 --> 01:52:34,368 That was very time-consuming to shoot. 2727 01:52:34,471 --> 01:52:36,094 -The shoot was like 55 days. 2728 01:52:36,197 --> 01:52:40,443 But, you know, I think there were probably 15 days, 2729 01:52:40,546 --> 01:52:42,652 maybe, or more out there. 2730 01:52:42,756 --> 01:52:44,378 -I had already started KNB EFX Group 2731 01:52:44,481 --> 01:52:45,931 with Greg Nicotero. 2732 01:52:46,035 --> 01:52:47,761 Kevin threw us some effects, which were great. 2733 01:52:47,864 --> 01:52:49,383 He's like, "Hey, I gotta do these dummies. 2734 01:52:49,486 --> 01:52:51,281 You know, these guys that, you know, are killed 2735 01:52:51,385 --> 01:52:53,628 and, like, the Chucky eyes are shoved into their heads. 2736 01:52:53,732 --> 01:52:55,009 You know, are you up for the task? 2737 01:52:55,113 --> 01:52:56,631 Do you feel like you want to do them?" 2738 01:52:56,735 --> 01:52:58,116 So it gave me a reason to go visit them, 2739 01:52:58,219 --> 01:52:59,773 which was tons of fun and see all my friends. 2740 01:52:59,876 --> 01:53:02,016 -Chucky proves to be exceptionally relentless 2741 01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:03,673 in that factory sequence. 2742 01:53:03,777 --> 01:53:05,502 -Action! And dummy! 2743 01:53:05,606 --> 01:53:08,195 -He gets his hand cut off and shoves a knife down his arm, 2744 01:53:08,298 --> 01:53:09,541 which, even though you know it's a doll, 2745 01:53:09,644 --> 01:53:10,749 is really gruesome to watch. 2746 01:53:10,853 --> 01:53:12,199 He gets stuck in that machine 2747 01:53:12,302 --> 01:53:13,821 that puts all arms and legs in him, 2748 01:53:13,925 --> 01:53:15,927 and he gets stapled to this thing. 2749 01:53:16,030 --> 01:53:17,445 And that's the nature of villains. 2750 01:53:17,549 --> 01:53:18,861 They just don't stay down. 2751 01:53:18,964 --> 01:53:21,587 -The differences between the first and second 2752 01:53:21,691 --> 01:53:23,348 was the amount of torture. 2753 01:53:23,451 --> 01:53:26,972 [Chucky screaming] 2754 01:53:27,076 --> 01:53:29,975 And that all required me screaming 2755 01:53:30,079 --> 01:53:31,528 and feeling all that pain. 2756 01:53:31,632 --> 01:53:33,358 So that was like a nightmare. 2757 01:53:33,461 --> 01:53:34,808 -[Gasps] 2758 01:53:34,911 --> 01:53:37,017 -And when I melt him with that hot wax, 2759 01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:38,742 that was super fun to shoot. 2760 01:53:38,846 --> 01:53:40,468 It wasn't really hot in real life, 2761 01:53:40,572 --> 01:53:43,057 but it did shoot out of there with an intense velocity. 2762 01:53:43,161 --> 01:53:45,508 -It was a Methylcellulose, which is, like, this food thickener. 2763 01:53:45,611 --> 01:53:47,199 The special effects guys added smoke to the liquid 2764 01:53:47,303 --> 01:53:49,650 as it came out to make it look like it was hot, 2765 01:53:49,753 --> 01:53:51,341 but it was actually cold. 2766 01:53:51,445 --> 01:53:53,827 And then we cut to a brand-new art piece that was Chucky, 2767 01:53:53,930 --> 01:53:56,001 molded onto a floor with all this silicone 2768 01:53:56,105 --> 01:53:57,761 and everything that came into a brand-new puppet 2769 01:53:57,865 --> 01:53:59,315 that had a brand-new head to it. 2770 01:53:59,418 --> 01:54:01,696 -Any time that I get to hurt the doll is my favorite. 2771 01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:03,595 -While I sometimes find it frustrating 2772 01:54:03,698 --> 01:54:06,736 that horror movie final girls don't get themselves away 2773 01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:10,084 from the allegedly dead villain that they've been fighting... 2774 01:54:10,188 --> 01:54:12,673 ♪♪ 2775 01:54:12,776 --> 01:54:14,054 -Aah! 2776 01:54:14,157 --> 01:54:15,745 ♪♪ 2777 01:54:15,849 --> 01:54:18,852 ...Kyle does the same thing. Kyle hovers over the melted wax 2778 01:54:18,955 --> 01:54:21,440 and invites the attack that inevitably comes. 2779 01:54:21,544 --> 01:54:22,510 -Action! 2780 01:54:22,614 --> 01:54:24,236 -[Screams] 2781 01:54:24,340 --> 01:54:26,238 -You never really get to kill Chucky. 2782 01:54:26,342 --> 01:54:29,621 I've killed him several times, and none of them take, it seems. 2783 01:54:29,724 --> 01:54:30,967 "Was this it? Have we killed him?" 2784 01:54:31,071 --> 01:54:32,796 Not yet. Try again. 2785 01:54:32,900 --> 01:54:35,144 -Eat this, you son of a bitch! 2786 01:54:35,247 --> 01:54:37,422 -Christine shoves the tube into Chucky's mouth, 2787 01:54:37,525 --> 01:54:39,527 and we use the first melted puppet for that. 2788 01:54:39,631 --> 01:54:41,564 And then, through cuts, it would cut away and cut back, 2789 01:54:41,667 --> 01:54:44,636 and we had an expandable head that had bladders in it 2790 01:54:44,739 --> 01:54:47,639 that we began to stretch it out, and then we cut to another head 2791 01:54:47,742 --> 01:54:50,331 that was fully out to like the size of a basketball. 2792 01:54:50,435 --> 01:54:52,713 And again, this is the John Lafia kind of humor. 2793 01:54:52,816 --> 01:54:54,197 He would just -- "Heh heh!" -- 2794 01:54:54,301 --> 01:54:56,268 laugh at it the whole time in the background 2795 01:54:56,372 --> 01:54:57,752 because he just loved this kind of stuff. 2796 01:54:57,856 --> 01:54:59,651 ♪♪ 2797 01:54:59,754 --> 01:55:01,515 -Chucky blowing up was an homage 2798 01:55:01,618 --> 01:55:04,518 to De Palma's "The Fury," with John Cassavetes blowing up, 2799 01:55:04,621 --> 01:55:06,347 and we, you know, showed it from the different angles. 2800 01:55:06,451 --> 01:55:08,729 -Chucky, at this point, is Wile E. Coyote. 2801 01:55:08,832 --> 01:55:12,629 We burn him, we rip him apart, we poke his eyes out, 2802 01:55:12,733 --> 01:55:14,666 and he deserves every bit of it, 2803 01:55:14,769 --> 01:55:16,599 and you're happy that it's happening. 2804 01:55:16,702 --> 01:55:19,326 -Kill him before he can say it. 2805 01:55:19,429 --> 01:55:21,224 -But how? How? 2806 01:55:21,328 --> 01:55:23,123 -Shoot him through the heart. -Heart. 2807 01:55:23,226 --> 01:55:24,503 -It would be over. 2808 01:55:24,607 --> 01:55:27,644 -It's the only way -- through the heart. 2809 01:55:27,748 --> 01:55:29,853 -Didn't we learn something from the first film? 2810 01:55:29,957 --> 01:55:32,822 ♪♪ 2811 01:55:32,926 --> 01:55:34,479 -The ending of the movie cracks me up 2812 01:55:34,582 --> 01:55:37,516 because we walk out of the factory into broad daylight. 2813 01:55:37,620 --> 01:55:39,898 My hair looks better than it ever did in the whole movie. 2814 01:55:40,002 --> 01:55:41,486 I have perfect hair, 2815 01:55:41,589 --> 01:55:43,143 which I wish I had that hair the whole time, 2816 01:55:43,246 --> 01:55:44,834 and we've just gone through hell, 2817 01:55:44,938 --> 01:55:46,491 and people we know are dead. 2818 01:55:46,594 --> 01:55:49,045 Two people, our foster parents, are both dead, 2819 01:55:49,149 --> 01:55:50,288 and we walk out, and he's like... 2820 01:55:50,391 --> 01:55:53,429 -Where are we going? -Home. 2821 01:55:53,532 --> 01:55:54,533 -Where's home? 2822 01:55:54,637 --> 01:55:56,328 -"I have no idea!" 2823 01:55:56,432 --> 01:55:58,123 Like nothing bad happened at all. 2824 01:55:58,227 --> 01:55:59,504 It's hilarious. 2825 01:55:59,607 --> 01:56:01,506 -Well, there was, as originally filmed, 2826 01:56:01,609 --> 01:56:04,509 we go back in, and we see blood dripping 2827 01:56:04,612 --> 01:56:08,892 from Chucky's exploded remains into that vat of plastic. 2828 01:56:08,996 --> 01:56:12,793 And then John did this kind of graceful, cool camera movement 2829 01:56:12,896 --> 01:56:15,899 up to show this new head coming out of the assembly line, 2830 01:56:16,003 --> 01:56:17,418 and it smiles. 2831 01:56:17,522 --> 01:56:19,973 And that, again, was something from the end 2832 01:56:20,076 --> 01:56:22,458 of my original script for "Blood Buddy." 2833 01:56:22,561 --> 01:56:26,082 -John just wanted to leave it on them walking out. 2834 01:56:26,186 --> 01:56:29,706 They had defeated the beast, and yet again, 2835 01:56:29,810 --> 01:56:32,537 here we were lucky enough to get a second film. 2836 01:56:32,640 --> 01:56:34,401 I don't think we were thinking of, 2837 01:56:34,504 --> 01:56:36,920 "Oh, we're going to leave a cliffhanger of any kind." 2838 01:56:37,024 --> 01:56:39,751 -That very well could have been the ending of Andy's story. 2839 01:56:39,854 --> 01:56:41,891 It could have been the ending of Chucky's story. 2840 01:56:41,995 --> 01:56:44,825 I think we're both very thankful it wasn't. 2841 01:56:44,928 --> 01:56:47,000 -With production on the sequel wrapped, 2842 01:56:47,103 --> 01:56:48,863 all eyes turned to putting together 2843 01:56:48,967 --> 01:56:51,107 what the cast and crew had created, 2844 01:56:51,211 --> 01:56:53,627 hoping to take Chucky from fright favorite 2845 01:56:53,730 --> 01:56:55,594 to outright icon. 2846 01:56:55,698 --> 01:56:58,494 -I have strong memories of going to dailies 2847 01:56:58,597 --> 01:56:59,805 with John Lafia 2848 01:56:59,909 --> 01:57:02,222 and Ed Warschilka Sr., our editor, 2849 01:57:02,325 --> 01:57:04,189 and it was fascinating for me 2850 01:57:04,293 --> 01:57:06,502 to see them working together in dailies, 2851 01:57:06,605 --> 01:57:08,366 because I could hear what they talked about 2852 01:57:08,469 --> 01:57:11,541 and figure out what they thought made the scene better. 2853 01:57:11,645 --> 01:57:14,027 -I was aware that some of our stuff was cut. 2854 01:57:14,130 --> 01:57:17,099 -I'm happy if you're happy. -I am. 2855 01:57:17,202 --> 01:57:20,171 You'll see. Everything's gonna be just fine. 2856 01:57:20,274 --> 01:57:21,827 -And it's not the Jenny Agutter 2857 01:57:21,931 --> 01:57:23,484 and Gerritt Graham story, is it? 2858 01:57:23,588 --> 01:57:26,763 -This is it. -It's the Alex and Chucky story. 2859 01:57:26,867 --> 01:57:29,732 ♪♪ 2860 01:57:29,835 --> 01:57:32,355 -Graeme Revell -- that was -- it was very exciting. 2861 01:57:32,459 --> 01:57:36,670 So, John Lafia and I had gone to see the movie "Dead Calm," 2862 01:57:36,773 --> 01:57:38,120 and the score was amazing. 2863 01:57:38,223 --> 01:57:40,053 And it's interesting because we talked about 2864 01:57:40,156 --> 01:57:42,986 Joe Renzetti's score for "Child's Play 1." 2865 01:57:43,090 --> 01:57:46,852 The score for "Dead Calm" had something in common with that. 2866 01:57:46,956 --> 01:57:49,890 [Tense music plays] 2867 01:57:49,993 --> 01:57:51,478 It was very percussive. 2868 01:57:51,581 --> 01:57:55,102 It wasn't a score about melody or strings. 2869 01:57:55,206 --> 01:57:56,966 You know, it was just a percussion. 2870 01:57:57,070 --> 01:58:01,212 And so I just remember John was very hot to meet this guy. 2871 01:58:01,315 --> 01:58:02,799 -We just kind of went with him. 2872 01:58:02,903 --> 01:58:05,319 His work was good. Don was very impressed by him, 2873 01:58:05,423 --> 01:58:07,114 and he felt Graeme would be great, 2874 01:58:07,218 --> 01:58:09,737 and Graeme delivered for us in a wonderful way. 2875 01:58:09,841 --> 01:58:10,980 [Dramatic music plays] 2876 01:58:11,084 --> 01:58:12,740 -[Screaming] 2877 01:58:12,844 --> 01:58:16,365 -I was honestly shocked that the reviews were not great. 2878 01:58:16,468 --> 01:58:18,436 I really thought we'd delivered something, 2879 01:58:18,539 --> 01:58:22,129 and I thought what John Lafia did with his directing 2880 01:58:22,233 --> 01:58:25,512 and what Don had written were really great. 2881 01:58:25,615 --> 01:58:27,514 -Sequels are always a tricky one to pull off. 2882 01:58:27,617 --> 01:58:31,552 You have to sort of recapture that magic 2883 01:58:31,656 --> 01:58:33,382 that makes the first one so special 2884 01:58:33,485 --> 01:58:35,246 in a way that makes audiences feel like 2885 01:58:35,349 --> 01:58:37,317 they're getting another taste of that. 2886 01:58:37,420 --> 01:58:39,836 -It feels like it lacks the seriousness of intent 2887 01:58:39,940 --> 01:58:41,459 that "Child's Play" had for me. 2888 01:58:41,562 --> 01:58:43,392 And so, as a result, it's just a body-count movie. 2889 01:58:43,495 --> 01:58:45,601 He's killing random people for no real reason. 2890 01:58:45,704 --> 01:58:47,706 It doesn't even necessarily serve his purposes, 2891 01:58:47,810 --> 01:58:49,018 and I feel like that takes a little bit 2892 01:58:49,122 --> 01:58:50,123 of the intensity out of it. 2893 01:58:50,226 --> 01:58:51,917 -I don't know that critics 2894 01:58:52,021 --> 01:58:53,678 are that important to horror films. 2895 01:58:53,781 --> 01:58:56,750 Our true critics that we want to please 2896 01:58:56,853 --> 01:58:58,338 are the audience, the fans. 2897 01:58:58,441 --> 01:59:02,100 -"Child's Play 2" was released on November 9, 1990. 2898 01:59:02,204 --> 01:59:05,655 Though not a critical darling, the film topped the box office, 2899 01:59:05,759 --> 01:59:08,037 ultimately pulled in $34 million, 2900 01:59:08,141 --> 01:59:11,834 and proved that you really can't keep a Good Guy down. 2901 01:59:11,937 --> 01:59:13,491 -It turned out we were so lucky. 2902 01:59:13,594 --> 01:59:16,356 Once again, the movie came out, and it won the weekend. 2903 01:59:16,459 --> 01:59:17,805 -And the audience seemed 2904 01:59:17,909 --> 01:59:20,463 to respond in kind, as far as showing up 2905 01:59:20,567 --> 01:59:23,397 and telling their friends and their friends showing up. 2906 01:59:23,501 --> 01:59:25,330 -I am so proud of that work. 2907 01:59:25,434 --> 01:59:27,712 It's sort of one of the epitomes of my career 2908 01:59:27,815 --> 01:59:30,024 in being part of that team with John, 2909 01:59:30,128 --> 01:59:33,200 Kevin, and magnificent art department. 2910 01:59:33,304 --> 01:59:35,754 I feel very privileged to have been part of that. 2911 01:59:35,858 --> 01:59:38,792 -I am super proud of being part of "Child's Play 2" 2912 01:59:38,895 --> 01:59:43,555 because I feel like I was part of horror history. 2913 01:59:43,659 --> 01:59:45,730 -It really was a good bunch, 2914 01:59:45,833 --> 01:59:48,491 and I had a lot of people there who I trusted 2915 01:59:48,595 --> 01:59:51,770 and knew I could rely on, and who did great work. 2916 01:59:51,874 --> 01:59:53,634 -The finished product was pretty exciting 2917 01:59:53,738 --> 01:59:56,396 'cause I spent, again, most of the time in isolation, 2918 01:59:56,499 --> 01:59:57,742 so it's fun to be able to see 2919 01:59:57,845 --> 01:59:59,295 how they put all the work together. 2920 01:59:59,399 --> 02:00:01,332 -I did exactly what I set out to do, 2921 02:00:01,435 --> 02:00:03,748 and that doesn't always happen that you shoot a movie 2922 02:00:03,851 --> 02:00:07,165 and you get what you thought in your mind it would be, 2923 02:00:07,269 --> 02:00:09,374 and it was exactly what I wanted. 2924 02:00:09,478 --> 02:00:11,963 -I knew it was going to get a gigantic audience. 2925 02:00:12,066 --> 02:00:14,690 Everybody and his brother was gonna go see the damn thing. 2926 02:00:14,793 --> 02:00:18,452 And it was a good shoot, a smooth, happy, fun shoot. 2927 02:00:18,556 --> 02:00:22,801 -That Universal logo was like a hug, you know, 2928 02:00:22,905 --> 02:00:27,220 acknowledging that I was part of this unbelievably cool club, 2929 02:00:27,323 --> 02:00:29,325 and that was really fun for me. 2930 02:00:29,429 --> 02:00:31,120 -I was very happy with it 2931 02:00:31,224 --> 02:00:33,950 but at an age where you begin to feel 2932 02:00:34,054 --> 02:00:35,538 and know what insecurity is, 2933 02:00:35,642 --> 02:00:38,231 so I was a little more critical of my performance 2934 02:00:38,334 --> 02:00:40,267 than I was ever watching the first film. 2935 02:00:40,371 --> 02:00:42,442 -In all fairness, I don't normally like 2936 02:00:42,545 --> 02:00:44,582 to watch movies that I'm in. 2937 02:00:44,685 --> 02:00:47,378 I find that a horrifying experience. 2938 02:00:47,481 --> 02:00:48,931 So I didn't see the movie. 2939 02:00:49,034 --> 02:00:50,346 -I enjoyed it. You know, I'm -- 2940 02:00:50,450 --> 02:00:52,106 You know, I was looking at my own work 2941 02:00:52,210 --> 02:00:53,763 to being the second unit director, 2942 02:00:53,867 --> 02:00:56,145 so I was kind of looking to see how that was cutting in, 2943 02:00:56,249 --> 02:00:59,390 you know, and I was happy to see the new parts work out. 2944 02:00:59,493 --> 02:01:01,426 But with Chucky, it's always nail-biting. 2945 02:01:01,530 --> 02:01:03,290 -It was, you know, pinch-yourself moments 2946 02:01:03,394 --> 02:01:05,085 that you made a movie, and now you get 2947 02:01:05,188 --> 02:01:06,707 to make a sequel to that movie. 2948 02:01:06,811 --> 02:01:09,607 And, you know, to be able to work with Don was exciting. 2949 02:01:09,710 --> 02:01:11,747 And John, you know, they were part of the team. 2950 02:01:11,850 --> 02:01:15,647 -It felt like, for me and John and David, 2951 02:01:15,751 --> 02:01:20,376 that we had righted the ship or at least stayed the course. 2952 02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:23,724 -I will say that there were shackles off of me. 2953 02:01:23,828 --> 02:01:26,796 The fact that Tom was no longer a part of this, 2954 02:01:26,900 --> 02:01:28,142 that felt really good. 2955 02:01:28,246 --> 02:01:30,352 And so there was just a lightness to it 2956 02:01:30,455 --> 02:01:32,837 and a frivolity that everybody had on this 2957 02:01:32,940 --> 02:01:34,839 that was not possible on the first film. 2958 02:01:34,942 --> 02:01:37,635 -We felt like we did Chucky proud. 2959 02:01:37,738 --> 02:01:40,500 ♪♪ 2960 02:01:40,603 --> 02:01:43,917 [Gunfire, explosions] 2961 02:01:44,020 --> 02:01:50,233 ♪♪ 2962 02:01:50,337 --> 02:01:54,237 -With "Chucky" topping the box-office charts twice before, 2963 02:01:54,341 --> 02:01:57,448 Universal hoped a third time would also charm. 2964 02:01:57,551 --> 02:01:59,484 The catch? Delivery of the film 2965 02:01:59,588 --> 02:02:02,453 for a summer 1991 release, 2966 02:02:02,556 --> 02:02:06,698 a mere nine months after the first sequel's debut. 2967 02:02:06,802 --> 02:02:09,563 -They'd greenlit "Child's Play 3" 2968 02:02:09,667 --> 02:02:11,462 before "Child's Play 2" came out. 2969 02:02:11,565 --> 02:02:14,016 I know that the movie had tested well, 2970 02:02:14,119 --> 02:02:18,503 well enough to hire me to start to get writing on the sequel. 2971 02:02:18,607 --> 02:02:19,884 -It was Universal. 2972 02:02:19,987 --> 02:02:21,955 They wanted to immediately capitalize. 2973 02:02:22,058 --> 02:02:24,129 I guess they felt they had some momentum going. 2974 02:02:24,233 --> 02:02:27,374 But I'm not sure why they wanted to rush it so quickly. 2975 02:02:27,478 --> 02:02:28,720 -There was a clock ticking. 2976 02:02:28,824 --> 02:02:30,653 I had to write that script really fast. 2977 02:02:30,757 --> 02:02:33,346 We had to go into production really fast. 2978 02:02:33,449 --> 02:02:35,417 -I made a mistake by agreeing to that. 2979 02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:36,901 The green light was too quick 2980 02:02:37,004 --> 02:02:38,903 and I've never made that mistake again. 2981 02:02:39,006 --> 02:02:42,493 -We knew we needed to change things up in some fashion 2982 02:02:42,596 --> 02:02:44,805 because we didn't want to get too repetitive. 2983 02:02:44,909 --> 02:02:48,015 -The domestic thing had happened twice. 2984 02:02:48,119 --> 02:02:49,223 -It has to change. 2985 02:02:49,327 --> 02:02:51,191 It can't be the same thing. 2986 02:02:51,294 --> 02:02:53,676 So there you have Don Mancini 2987 02:02:53,780 --> 02:02:55,506 coming up with a really good idea. 2988 02:02:55,609 --> 02:02:58,163 -I think I was inspired by the "Omen" franchise. 2989 02:02:58,267 --> 02:03:01,788 "Omen II" partly takes place with Damien at military school. 2990 02:03:01,891 --> 02:03:04,411 -I'm not sure if I love the whole concept 2991 02:03:04,515 --> 02:03:06,896 of the -- story-wise, of the soldier thing. 2992 02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:09,071 It just didn't feel like a "Child's Play" film, 2993 02:03:09,174 --> 02:03:10,383 to me, for some reason. 2994 02:03:10,486 --> 02:03:11,832 -I do remember being disappointed 2995 02:03:11,936 --> 02:03:13,696 that John didn't want to direct it. 2996 02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:15,871 He wanted to move on to something else. 2997 02:03:15,974 --> 02:03:19,288 -Jack Bender came available, and we were lucky to get him. 2998 02:03:19,392 --> 02:03:21,221 He had been directing television, 2999 02:03:21,324 --> 02:03:23,534 but he was very talented. 3000 02:03:23,637 --> 02:03:26,295 -I had written a story with Richard Matheson 3001 02:03:26,399 --> 02:03:29,091 called "The Dreamer of Oz," about the life of L. Frank Baum, 3002 02:03:29,194 --> 02:03:32,612 and Jack directed that, and I offered him a feature, 3003 02:03:32,715 --> 02:03:34,786 and the studio, at that point, was willing to go 3004 02:03:34,890 --> 02:03:37,582 with whoever I felt strongly about. 3005 02:03:37,686 --> 02:03:40,378 -I had a relationship with Jack Bender. 3006 02:03:40,482 --> 02:03:42,863 I had never done a horror film before. 3007 02:03:42,967 --> 02:03:45,866 I was intrigued about giving me the challenge to 3008 02:03:45,970 --> 02:03:48,904 take the genre and see what I can do with it. 3009 02:03:49,007 --> 02:03:51,769 I didn't know anything about Chucky before or since. 3010 02:03:51,872 --> 02:03:54,012 The most complicated thing was making the doll work, 3011 02:03:54,116 --> 02:03:56,705 not making our day 'cause the doll would break. 3012 02:03:56,808 --> 02:03:59,742 -I think I was hesitating working on "Child's Play 3" 3013 02:03:59,846 --> 02:04:01,882 because, okay, now it's a franchise, now it's something 3014 02:04:01,986 --> 02:04:03,539 that's just going to keep going on. 3015 02:04:03,643 --> 02:04:05,679 I felt that by part 2, I'd done it all. 3016 02:04:05,783 --> 02:04:07,923 So what else can I bring to this character? 3017 02:04:08,026 --> 02:04:10,822 And I was also -- it was a great year, work-wise, for me. 3018 02:04:10,926 --> 02:04:12,583 I had "Bogus Journey" going on. 3019 02:04:12,686 --> 02:04:14,481 I had all these other movies that I was working on, 3020 02:04:14,585 --> 02:04:16,034 so I was trying to give it as much as I could, 3021 02:04:16,138 --> 02:04:17,691 but I know I didn't give it as much as I did 3022 02:04:17,795 --> 02:04:19,348 in the first two films. 3023 02:04:19,452 --> 02:04:20,867 -Though some things changed, 3024 02:04:20,970 --> 02:04:23,525 others felt the same, as this third trip 3025 02:04:23,628 --> 02:04:25,009 around the Chucky sun proved 3026 02:04:25,112 --> 02:04:27,874 when it was time to say hello to new recruits 3027 02:04:27,977 --> 02:04:30,324 and bid farewell to old friends. 3028 02:04:30,428 --> 02:04:32,430 -I discovered that my voice had changed 3029 02:04:32,534 --> 02:04:34,915 and I could no longer be a part of the "Child's Play" movies, 3030 02:04:35,019 --> 02:04:37,021 but I think it was very cool for them in "Child's Play 3" 3031 02:04:37,124 --> 02:04:39,368 to take that jump into boarding school. 3032 02:04:39,472 --> 02:04:42,026 So that was a cool story twist, right? 3033 02:04:42,129 --> 02:04:43,821 -And, of course, both Alex and I assumed 3034 02:04:43,924 --> 02:04:46,237 we would be in "Child's Play 3," which didn't happen. 3035 02:04:46,340 --> 02:04:48,653 -I thought that I was coming back for part 3, though. 3036 02:04:48,757 --> 02:04:50,897 There was a time when I definitely thought I was. 3037 02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,037 I remember being in a restaurant and finding out 3038 02:04:53,140 --> 02:04:55,557 that I was not going to be in part 3, 3039 02:04:55,660 --> 02:04:58,629 and I was devastated. I was incredibly devastated. 3040 02:04:58,732 --> 02:05:00,285 -But I was super disappointed, though. 3041 02:05:00,389 --> 02:05:01,804 I really wanted to come back 3042 02:05:01,908 --> 02:05:03,737 because it was such a positive experience. 3043 02:05:03,841 --> 02:05:05,394 -I felt like this was something 3044 02:05:05,498 --> 02:05:07,983 that I was a big part of, and now I wasn't a part of it. 3045 02:05:08,086 --> 02:05:11,607 And, yeah, that was -- it was difficult for me at the time. 3046 02:05:11,711 --> 02:05:13,920 -We felt we had run dry 3047 02:05:14,023 --> 02:05:18,234 on the story of Chucky chasing Andy Barclay. 3048 02:05:18,338 --> 02:05:20,754 -Don thought he had really explored Chucky, 3049 02:05:20,858 --> 02:05:22,963 you know, assaulting a child. 3050 02:05:23,067 --> 02:05:25,000 He kind of done everything with that that he could, 3051 02:05:25,103 --> 02:05:27,105 and he wanted to move the story into somebody 3052 02:05:27,209 --> 02:05:31,282 maybe more sophisticated in fighting back against Chucky. 3053 02:05:31,385 --> 02:05:32,697 -Andy. 3054 02:05:32,801 --> 02:05:35,735 -Teenage Andy -- that's a whole other story. 3055 02:05:35,838 --> 02:05:38,979 -I never felt comfortable with those people. 3056 02:05:39,083 --> 02:05:41,016 They weren't family, they were strangers. 3057 02:05:41,119 --> 02:05:43,708 -You know, Andy grown up, who wasn't our little kid. 3058 02:05:43,812 --> 02:05:45,676 It was this different actor. That's always hard, 3059 02:05:45,779 --> 02:05:47,816 you know, to accept that as a character. 3060 02:05:47,919 --> 02:05:49,852 -I think it was more interesting 3061 02:05:49,956 --> 02:05:51,992 instead of just repeating the same thing over and over again. 3062 02:05:52,096 --> 02:05:54,754 It really brought a new aspect to it. 3063 02:05:54,857 --> 02:05:57,791 -Andy, how you've grown. 3064 02:05:57,895 --> 02:05:59,690 -Justin was a great find. 3065 02:05:59,793 --> 02:06:02,002 Credit to that goes to our casting director. 3066 02:06:02,106 --> 02:06:06,144 Glenn Daniels found him and was super excited about it 3067 02:06:06,248 --> 02:06:08,146 because I remember him calling me and saying, 3068 02:06:08,250 --> 02:06:11,391 "Not only have I found a great kid actor, 3069 02:06:11,494 --> 02:06:14,636 he looks exactly like Alex Vincent." 3070 02:06:14,739 --> 02:06:16,327 -He seemed to care a great deal. 3071 02:06:16,430 --> 02:06:20,711 He seemed to, in our minds, be a version of grown-up Andy. 3072 02:06:20,814 --> 02:06:22,367 -And I thought Justin was great. 3073 02:06:22,471 --> 02:06:25,094 -You think you're pretty funny, don't you, De Silva? 3074 02:06:25,198 --> 02:06:26,889 -Yes, I do, sir. 3075 02:06:26,993 --> 02:06:28,926 -I had just really started acting a couple of years 3076 02:06:29,029 --> 02:06:32,032 before I got the role of Kristin De Silva 3077 02:06:32,136 --> 02:06:34,276 in "Child's Play 3," and I loved the part 3078 02:06:34,379 --> 02:06:37,590 because she was sort of a badass, ahead of her time. 3079 02:06:37,693 --> 02:06:39,799 -That was the absolute intent, 3080 02:06:39,902 --> 02:06:42,353 to have a strong female central character. 3081 02:06:42,456 --> 02:06:44,838 I don't know that she necessarily seemed like a girl 3082 02:06:44,942 --> 02:06:47,047 you'd meet in military school, 3083 02:06:47,151 --> 02:06:51,120 but I believed her as having a tough edge. 3084 02:06:51,224 --> 02:06:53,709 -How you doing, Tyler? 3085 02:06:53,813 --> 02:06:57,782 -My audition process was lengthy. 3086 02:06:57,886 --> 02:07:00,060 I had a lead starring role. 3087 02:07:00,164 --> 02:07:03,719 I didn't even realize how significant it was going to be. 3088 02:07:03,823 --> 02:07:05,721 -My name's Jeremy. And even though, 3089 02:07:05,825 --> 02:07:09,173 I'm only 9 years old, I have the voice... 3090 02:07:09,276 --> 02:07:10,864 [Speaking indistinctly] 3091 02:07:10,968 --> 02:07:12,832 -The character of Tyler, that Jeremy Sylvers 3092 02:07:12,935 --> 02:07:15,766 did such a wonderful job at, he had home-life damage. 3093 02:07:15,869 --> 02:07:18,803 -As a young Black African-American male 3094 02:07:18,907 --> 02:07:20,874 latchkey kid growing up in the '90s, 3095 02:07:20,978 --> 02:07:23,877 being scared wasn't too hard. 3096 02:07:23,981 --> 02:07:25,914 -Do you know who I am?! 3097 02:07:26,017 --> 02:07:27,225 -Shelton. 3098 02:07:27,329 --> 02:07:28,813 -At the time, I was working on a TV series 3099 02:07:28,917 --> 02:07:30,228 called "The Young Riders," 3100 02:07:30,332 --> 02:07:31,885 and we were on hiatus for the summer, 3101 02:07:31,989 --> 02:07:33,300 and I got a call from my agent. 3102 02:07:33,404 --> 02:07:34,577 He said, "There's this movie you're gonna be 3103 02:07:34,681 --> 02:07:36,062 auditioning for, 'Child's Play,' 3104 02:07:36,165 --> 02:07:37,339 and I knew of the "Child's Play" movies. 3105 02:07:37,442 --> 02:07:38,823 When I first read the script, 3106 02:07:38,927 --> 02:07:40,100 the thing that I -- immediately jumped at 3107 02:07:40,204 --> 02:07:42,516 is how much I loved this character. 3108 02:07:42,620 --> 02:07:44,553 There was a complexity to it that I saw. 3109 02:07:44,657 --> 02:07:46,762 -He had such a range with his acting. 3110 02:07:46,866 --> 02:07:48,453 -Travis was awesome. 3111 02:07:48,557 --> 02:07:49,938 -We just had a blast. 3112 02:07:50,041 --> 02:07:51,525 -You must be new. Otherwise, you'd know 3113 02:07:51,629 --> 02:07:53,838 they don't tolerate any form of individuality here. 3114 02:07:53,942 --> 02:07:56,082 -I showed them a picture of me from this movie 3115 02:07:56,185 --> 02:07:58,601 I had done, that Joe Roth had directed, 3116 02:07:58,705 --> 02:07:59,879 called "Coupe de Ville." 3117 02:07:59,982 --> 02:08:01,432 My hair had been, you know, 3118 02:08:01,535 --> 02:08:03,227 cut down for, like, a military cut, 3119 02:08:03,330 --> 02:08:04,746 so I was like, "This is what I look like 3120 02:08:04,849 --> 02:08:06,126 with a military cut." 3121 02:08:06,230 --> 02:08:07,990 Anyway, like, at the end of my audition, 3122 02:08:08,094 --> 02:08:10,372 I stuck my head back in the door and did that silly thing 3123 02:08:10,475 --> 02:08:13,686 where you reach your arm back in and pull your head out. 3124 02:08:13,789 --> 02:08:15,204 I think that's why they liked me. 3125 02:08:15,308 --> 02:08:16,585 -Dean was great. 3126 02:08:16,689 --> 02:08:17,931 We were going for rehearsal, and he said, 3127 02:08:18,035 --> 02:08:19,588 "Oh, I spent the night at the academy." 3128 02:08:19,692 --> 02:08:21,314 -I wanted to do my homework, do the research, 3129 02:08:21,417 --> 02:08:23,937 find out what it's actually like to be a new student 3130 02:08:24,041 --> 02:08:25,663 at a military academy. 3131 02:08:25,767 --> 02:08:27,147 -I said, "Why?" and he said, 3132 02:08:27,251 --> 02:08:28,390 "'Cause I told them to kind of bully me 3133 02:08:28,493 --> 02:08:29,632 so I could experience that." 3134 02:08:29,736 --> 02:08:31,255 -This is my rifle, this is my gun, 3135 02:08:31,358 --> 02:08:34,430 this is for shooting, and this is for fun. 3136 02:08:34,534 --> 02:08:36,985 -So I came in to read for the part of Colonel Shelton, 3137 02:08:37,088 --> 02:08:39,884 and I thought, "Hey, this is in the bag." 3138 02:08:39,988 --> 02:08:42,956 And they told me, "Well, there's this other guy we like, 3139 02:08:43,060 --> 02:08:44,647 and we're gonna give him a shot." 3140 02:08:44,751 --> 02:08:46,373 "Uh, uh, all right." 3141 02:08:46,477 --> 02:08:48,859 And they came back and said, "But they really liked you, 3142 02:08:48,962 --> 02:08:50,446 and they want to write a part for you. 3143 02:08:50,550 --> 02:08:52,863 So we're going to put Major Ellis in the script," 3144 02:08:52,966 --> 02:08:54,416 and I was like, "Awesome." 3145 02:08:54,519 --> 02:08:57,177 -Apparently, Matthew was considered for my role, 3146 02:08:57,281 --> 02:08:59,662 and to his credit, he put that aside. 3147 02:08:59,766 --> 02:09:02,942 I think he's a phenomenal actor, an interesting, intelligent guy, 3148 02:09:03,045 --> 02:09:05,220 and I loved working with him. I really did. 3149 02:09:05,323 --> 02:09:08,464 -It's time to forget these fantasies of killer dolls. 3150 02:09:08,568 --> 02:09:11,571 -Well, I was pretty new to film and television. 3151 02:09:11,674 --> 02:09:14,712 I had only come down to L.A. 3152 02:09:14,816 --> 02:09:16,990 in the very late '80s and early '90s 3153 02:09:17,094 --> 02:09:21,098 after a 25-year career exclusively on stage. 3154 02:09:21,201 --> 02:09:22,962 Jack was a friend of mine, 3155 02:09:23,065 --> 02:09:25,309 and he had given me my first lead in a movie of the week. 3156 02:09:25,412 --> 02:09:28,795 -Dakin Matthews was the dad on the set. 3157 02:09:28,899 --> 02:09:31,211 Super accomplished, knew the drill. 3158 02:09:31,315 --> 02:09:35,457 If you needed to know anything about working on a set, 3159 02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:38,322 you just kind of looked at Dakin. 3160 02:09:38,425 --> 02:09:39,979 [Both gasp, laugh] 3161 02:09:40,082 --> 02:09:45,329 -So this was my real first motion-picture audition. 3162 02:09:45,432 --> 02:09:49,712 I moved from Chattanooga, Tennessee, to New York to L.A. 3163 02:09:49,816 --> 02:09:51,369 because everything was casting here. 3164 02:09:51,473 --> 02:09:54,234 -Perrey and Donna had the unfortunate distinction 3165 02:09:54,338 --> 02:09:57,203 of being really the only two females 3166 02:09:57,306 --> 02:10:00,965 in this military school with hundreds of other guys. 3167 02:10:01,069 --> 02:10:03,002 The chance of that being intimidating 3168 02:10:03,105 --> 02:10:04,831 was certainly there, 3169 02:10:04,935 --> 02:10:06,246 and I don't think they let it bother them one bit. 3170 02:10:06,350 --> 02:10:08,145 ♪♪ 3171 02:10:08,248 --> 02:10:11,700 So super pumped, ready to head to everybody's favorite, 3172 02:10:11,804 --> 02:10:16,670 I think, Mecca of filming, Boonville, Missouri, in winter. 3173 02:10:16,774 --> 02:10:18,293 -It was freezing. We were out. 3174 02:10:18,396 --> 02:10:19,984 You had to pretend it wasn't cold. 3175 02:10:20,088 --> 02:10:22,504 -We had these heat packs that we 3176 02:10:22,607 --> 02:10:24,126 put in our shoes so that 3177 02:10:24,230 --> 02:10:27,026 our toes wouldn't just completely freeze off. 3178 02:10:27,129 --> 02:10:28,855 -So what could go wrong? 3179 02:10:28,959 --> 02:10:31,996 -With Chucky boot camp in full freezing swing, 3180 02:10:32,100 --> 02:10:35,793 "Child's Play 3" began filming on February 4, 1991, 3181 02:10:35,897 --> 02:10:39,245 with a budget of $13 million. 3182 02:10:39,348 --> 02:10:42,489 -The bottom line is the bottom line. 3183 02:10:42,593 --> 02:10:44,181 -Peter Haskell as Sullivan 3184 02:10:44,284 --> 02:10:47,770 was a personification of the worst of Madison Avenue, 3185 02:10:47,874 --> 02:10:49,289 and he loved doing that. 3186 02:10:49,393 --> 02:10:52,499 -He is killed on top of his desk 3187 02:10:52,603 --> 02:10:55,261 in front of these pictures of these two cute 3188 02:10:55,364 --> 02:10:59,334 little blond kids, which were my kids. 3189 02:10:59,437 --> 02:11:00,818 -You know, I said, "Oh, we're gonna bring you back 3190 02:11:00,922 --> 02:11:02,544 for 'Child's Play 3' and kill you." 3191 02:11:02,647 --> 02:11:04,063 You know, 'cause he was like, "I want to -- 3192 02:11:04,166 --> 02:11:05,305 I want to get killed by Chucky." 3193 02:11:05,409 --> 02:11:08,343 So I was able to accommodate him. 3194 02:11:08,446 --> 02:11:10,863 -It's the first kill of the movie. 3195 02:11:10,966 --> 02:11:12,485 And you're kind of expecting it, 3196 02:11:12,588 --> 02:11:15,522 but when it does happen, it really is a delicious payoff. 3197 02:11:15,626 --> 02:11:20,079 -Nothing like a strangulation to get the circulation going. 3198 02:11:20,182 --> 02:11:25,739 -Brad is great at delivering darkly funny lines as Chucky. 3199 02:11:25,843 --> 02:11:27,431 -I actually do remember doing that line, 3200 02:11:27,534 --> 02:11:31,504 and Chucky is becoming aware of himself. 3201 02:11:31,607 --> 02:11:34,507 -Because the character was getting more popular, 3202 02:11:34,610 --> 02:11:39,029 our operating principle was, "Let's show him more." 3203 02:11:39,132 --> 02:11:42,101 -Where are you, you little shit? 3204 02:11:42,204 --> 02:11:43,447 ♪♪ 3205 02:11:43,550 --> 02:11:45,898 -The young man was sent to a military academy 3206 02:11:46,001 --> 02:11:48,831 because he's been causing so much trouble. 3207 02:11:48,935 --> 02:11:50,419 -Adjustment problems. 3208 02:11:50,523 --> 02:11:51,904 -I can read, Barclay. 3209 02:11:52,007 --> 02:11:54,251 -Justin's character was very internal. 3210 02:11:54,354 --> 02:11:56,149 I always thought he did such a wonderful job. 3211 02:11:56,253 --> 02:11:59,118 -I thought he did bring all that history to the role. 3212 02:11:59,221 --> 02:12:03,363 -He's a lovely actor, and we had a pretty good relationship. 3213 02:12:03,467 --> 02:12:05,987 -Grow up. You're not a kid anymore. 3214 02:12:06,090 --> 02:12:10,819 -That character on the page was R. Lee Ermey. 3215 02:12:10,923 --> 02:12:12,994 -You are pukes. You are the lowest 3216 02:12:13,097 --> 02:12:14,512 form of life on Earth. 3217 02:12:14,616 --> 02:12:17,101 -I was never going to approach it like a jerk. 3218 02:12:17,205 --> 02:12:19,379 I was going to approach it a bit more humanistic. 3219 02:12:19,483 --> 02:12:22,106 -Dakin brought, I think, some humanity to it. 3220 02:12:22,210 --> 02:12:26,352 -I think Dakin Matthews is precious. 3221 02:12:26,455 --> 02:12:28,423 -Andy Robinson playing the barber. 3222 02:12:28,526 --> 02:12:29,182 -Next. 3223 02:12:29,286 --> 02:12:30,943 -He's capable of playing 3224 02:12:31,046 --> 02:12:34,187 the most psychopathic, psychotic serial killers. 3225 02:12:34,291 --> 02:12:36,120 -Andy Robinson is, you know, 3226 02:12:36,224 --> 02:12:39,365 Dirty Harry's nemesis. How awesome is that? 3227 02:12:39,468 --> 02:12:41,401 -To me, he was really intimidating. 3228 02:12:41,505 --> 02:12:43,956 -He's actually an extraordinarily nice guy. 3229 02:12:44,059 --> 02:12:45,819 -Andy and his performance, 3230 02:12:45,923 --> 02:12:47,235 definitely one of the most 3231 02:12:47,338 --> 02:12:49,478 memorable aspects of the whole movie. 3232 02:12:49,582 --> 02:12:50,479 -"Presto!" 3233 02:12:50,583 --> 02:12:51,515 -You're bald. 3234 02:12:51,618 --> 02:12:53,344 -"You're bald." 3235 02:12:53,448 --> 02:12:55,277 -What we see is these shiny boots 3236 02:12:55,381 --> 02:12:59,488 step into frame and do a snap turn and walk down. 3237 02:12:59,592 --> 02:13:01,249 I can't remember how I was supposed to enter, 3238 02:13:01,352 --> 02:13:02,905 but I walked up to Jack, and I said, 3239 02:13:03,009 --> 02:13:04,045 "Hey, Jack, you know, what would be great? 3240 02:13:04,148 --> 02:13:05,563 If the camera was really low 3241 02:13:05,667 --> 02:13:08,118 and you saw my shoes, these shiny shoes," 3242 02:13:08,221 --> 02:13:11,259 and I did the snap turn. And to Jack's credit, 3243 02:13:11,362 --> 02:13:15,090 he let some 22-year-old actor call his own entry shot. 3244 02:13:15,194 --> 02:13:16,505 -You're a new boy, huh? 3245 02:13:16,609 --> 02:13:17,990 -Travis was, you know, 3246 02:13:18,093 --> 02:13:20,406 doing the work of a good actor 3247 02:13:20,509 --> 02:13:23,340 and finding a way to play a figure 3248 02:13:23,443 --> 02:13:26,412 that was relatively thin on the page. 3249 02:13:26,515 --> 02:13:29,346 -Shelton's anger and his aggression came from a fear 3250 02:13:29,449 --> 02:13:32,107 and a refusal to sort of confront his own stuff. 3251 02:13:32,211 --> 02:13:33,764 -God damn majorette over here. 3252 02:13:33,867 --> 02:13:36,594 -And on paper, this was not a bisexual character. 3253 02:13:36,698 --> 02:13:39,080 I don't think Don ever intended to write it that way, 3254 02:13:39,183 --> 02:13:40,564 and that's how I chose to play it. 3255 02:13:40,667 --> 02:13:43,670 -I was aware, and we did talk about it briefly. 3256 02:13:43,774 --> 02:13:46,328 -As an openly bisexual man, 3257 02:13:46,432 --> 02:13:48,606 that was one of the earliest moments with that character 3258 02:13:48,710 --> 02:13:51,540 that I was able to play around with something. 3259 02:13:51,644 --> 02:13:56,269 -Travis has to find a way into the psychology of that character 3260 02:13:56,373 --> 02:13:59,445 so that it'll be interesting and watchable, and he did it. 3261 02:13:59,548 --> 02:14:02,206 -I'm proud that I got to play that character 3262 02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:03,656 the way I wanted to. 3263 02:14:03,759 --> 02:14:05,313 -You asshole. 3264 02:14:05,416 --> 02:14:07,418 -One of the most fun parts of the movie for me 3265 02:14:07,522 --> 02:14:09,213 was all of my scenes with Travis. 3266 02:14:09,317 --> 02:14:11,146 I mean, number one, they were just head-to-head. 3267 02:14:11,250 --> 02:14:12,837 -There's that moment where I walk up to her 3268 02:14:12,941 --> 02:14:14,494 and I say, "You think you're pretty smart, don't you?" 3269 02:14:14,598 --> 02:14:16,324 So it's a very sort of intimate moment. 3270 02:14:16,427 --> 02:14:18,188 And, again, we talk about secrets 3271 02:14:18,291 --> 02:14:19,913 and things that actors bring and subtext, 3272 02:14:20,017 --> 02:14:21,329 and I always believed that 3273 02:14:21,432 --> 02:14:23,676 Shelton and De Silva had had a thing. 3274 02:14:23,779 --> 02:14:26,368 -Why don't you drop and give me 25 right now. 3275 02:14:26,472 --> 02:14:28,957 -And they had actually flown in a stunt double. 3276 02:14:29,061 --> 02:14:31,373 -She was the one who would do all the one-armed push-ups. 3277 02:14:31,477 --> 02:14:33,375 -And when I found that out, I was so upset. 3278 02:14:33,479 --> 02:14:35,170 I was like, "I can do my own stunts." 3279 02:14:35,274 --> 02:14:37,207 -I loved what Perrey brought to the character. 3280 02:14:37,310 --> 02:14:38,587 She's got such a strength. 3281 02:14:38,691 --> 02:14:40,037 -So I did. I did a one-armed push-up. 3282 02:14:40,141 --> 02:14:41,487 I think I could do two of them, 3283 02:14:41,590 --> 02:14:43,592 and then actually did fall in the mud. 3284 02:14:43,696 --> 02:14:45,318 But we laughed and laughed and laughed. 3285 02:14:45,422 --> 02:14:47,079 -Jack asked me to ad-lib a line 3286 02:14:47,182 --> 02:14:48,356 because Perrey was doing push-ups, 3287 02:14:48,459 --> 02:14:50,289 and it just came out. I said... 3288 02:14:50,392 --> 02:14:52,429 -Once a month, we're just gonna get on out of your way. 3289 02:14:52,532 --> 02:14:53,947 -It came out, and Jack's like, "What was that?" 3290 02:14:54,051 --> 02:14:55,259 and I said, "I don't know," 3291 02:14:55,363 --> 02:14:56,605 and it ended up staying in the movie. 3292 02:14:56,709 --> 02:14:58,642 -Her and Travis really set the tone 3293 02:14:58,745 --> 02:15:00,126 for the rest of us 3294 02:15:00,230 --> 02:15:02,404 that they were going to take the work seriously. 3295 02:15:02,508 --> 02:15:04,682 -The ensemble was wonderful. We all really bonded 3296 02:15:04,786 --> 02:15:06,650 because we were on location right off the bat. 3297 02:15:06,753 --> 02:15:10,032 -We all got to hang out and have fun. 3298 02:15:10,136 --> 02:15:11,482 That was nice. 3299 02:15:11,586 --> 02:15:13,726 -Why don't you give this to the new kid for me? 3300 02:15:13,829 --> 02:15:14,865 Barclay. 3301 02:15:14,968 --> 02:15:16,280 -Yes, sir. 3302 02:15:16,384 --> 02:15:19,973 -Tyler took the Good Guy in the first place 3303 02:15:20,077 --> 02:15:21,872 because he was a lonely kid. 3304 02:15:21,975 --> 02:15:25,393 -You know, he kind of took the place of the next Andy. 3305 02:15:25,496 --> 02:15:28,534 -The most amazing part of the film 3306 02:15:28,637 --> 02:15:33,504 was actually interacting with this real-life doll. 3307 02:15:33,608 --> 02:15:34,609 "Hey, kid." 3308 02:15:34,712 --> 02:15:36,058 -Fun's over. 3309 02:15:36,162 --> 02:15:38,475 Where the hell's Andy? 3310 02:15:38,578 --> 02:15:42,134 -It was hard to stay in character because I'm like... 3311 02:15:42,237 --> 02:15:43,825 -You have to believe that voice 3312 02:15:43,928 --> 02:15:45,275 is coming out of that doll. 3313 02:15:45,378 --> 02:15:48,278 -Brad Dourif is one of the most amazing actors 3314 02:15:48,381 --> 02:15:49,555 on the face of the planet. 3315 02:15:49,658 --> 02:15:51,281 -I remember one of the first questions 3316 02:15:51,384 --> 02:15:53,869 I think I asked my reps at the time was, 3317 02:15:53,973 --> 02:15:55,423 "Did Brad Dourif sign on again?" 3318 02:15:55,526 --> 02:15:58,978 -There's a freedom and a wildness and a passion 3319 02:15:59,081 --> 02:16:00,428 and an intensity to Brad. 3320 02:16:00,531 --> 02:16:03,983 -The one thing that I love about Chucky 3321 02:16:04,086 --> 02:16:06,123 is that he loves his job. 3322 02:16:06,227 --> 02:16:08,470 That's really part of who he is. 3323 02:16:08,574 --> 02:16:13,061 -He had the sauce, man. He had the sauce. 3324 02:16:13,165 --> 02:16:14,476 -A Good Guy. 3325 02:16:14,580 --> 02:16:17,272 -Tyler was very meaningful for me 3326 02:16:17,376 --> 02:16:21,483 because we shared a lot of similar life circumstances. 3327 02:16:21,587 --> 02:16:23,761 -I always thought that maybe Tyler's role 3328 02:16:23,865 --> 02:16:27,731 had a past history of really serious abuse. 3329 02:16:27,834 --> 02:16:31,769 -Tyler wanted some friendship. He wanted a companion, 3330 02:16:31,873 --> 02:16:35,463 and he was torn between Chucky and Andy Barclay. 3331 02:16:35,566 --> 02:16:37,982 And Andy was the real friend. 3332 02:16:38,085 --> 02:16:40,468 Chucky was the pretend friend. 3333 02:16:40,571 --> 02:16:42,366 He was the wolf in sheep's clothing. 3334 02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:46,646 -Ade due Damballa. 3335 02:16:46,750 --> 02:16:48,752 -During those "hide the soul" moments, 3336 02:16:48,855 --> 02:16:50,201 I'm sitting there, like, 3337 02:16:50,305 --> 02:16:52,755 silently mouthing the exact same lines, 3338 02:16:52,859 --> 02:16:54,654 and Jack is like, "No, don't do that." 3339 02:16:54,758 --> 02:16:57,726 [Laughs] "He says the voodoo thing. 3340 02:16:57,830 --> 02:16:59,383 You don't say it." 3341 02:16:59,486 --> 02:17:01,522 -I can't believe I let you talk me into this. 3342 02:17:01,627 --> 02:17:04,250 -I was all excited because prior to that, 3343 02:17:04,353 --> 02:17:06,804 I had seen the promo for "Child's Play 1" 3344 02:17:06,907 --> 02:17:09,737 with my brother Chucky. How weird is that? 3345 02:17:09,842 --> 02:17:13,397 -De Silva, when she was going through the commandant's office, 3346 02:17:13,501 --> 02:17:15,537 was trying to get information on Andy. 3347 02:17:15,641 --> 02:17:18,471 -But when she finds Tyler with that doll... 3348 02:17:18,575 --> 02:17:19,852 ♪♪ 3349 02:17:19,955 --> 02:17:20,956 [Both laugh] 3350 02:17:21,059 --> 02:17:24,615 ...she doesn't want him to be, 3351 02:17:24,718 --> 02:17:28,412 you know, damaged or be sought out to be picked on. 3352 02:17:28,516 --> 02:17:31,208 -[Gasps] Oh, he is so cute! 3353 02:17:31,312 --> 02:17:33,416 -Ivers, give him back! 3354 02:17:33,521 --> 02:17:37,075 -I wanted to humiliate him and shame him and go, 3355 02:17:37,179 --> 02:17:39,181 "Hey, I'm bigger than you, buddy." 3356 02:17:39,285 --> 02:17:40,735 -Donna, um, 3357 02:17:40,838 --> 02:17:43,565 was sort of the one that you kind of think 3358 02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:46,119 she's probably going to be dead by page 30. 3359 02:17:46,223 --> 02:17:47,568 -[Sighs] 3360 02:17:47,673 --> 02:17:50,365 -Right? But just to have that female energy 3361 02:17:50,468 --> 02:17:54,852 in such a male-centric film, I think, was able to bring 3362 02:17:54,956 --> 02:17:57,406 a different kind of emotion and playfulness to it. 3363 02:17:57,510 --> 02:18:01,169 -Chucky has such a incongruous, 3364 02:18:01,272 --> 02:18:02,998 macho sensibility 3365 02:18:03,102 --> 02:18:07,037 coming out of this adorable little child's doll. 3366 02:18:07,139 --> 02:18:08,486 -Give me your lipstick. -What for? 3367 02:18:08,590 --> 02:18:09,487 -Just give it to me. 3368 02:18:09,591 --> 02:18:11,110 -And so the notion -- 3369 02:18:11,213 --> 02:18:12,559 it just seemed like something 3370 02:18:12,663 --> 02:18:16,253 that, like, would really make Chucky livid. 3371 02:18:16,357 --> 02:18:18,359 -And you knew that this was a coiled spring 3372 02:18:18,462 --> 02:18:19,670 with a bomb attached, 3373 02:18:19,773 --> 02:18:21,602 and they were risking their lives. 3374 02:18:21,707 --> 02:18:23,329 -Uh, he ain't gonna like it too much 3375 02:18:23,433 --> 02:18:25,745 that you putting, uh, lipstick all over him. 3376 02:18:25,849 --> 02:18:27,263 -I don't know that I was doing it 3377 02:18:27,368 --> 02:18:28,852 so deliberately at the time, 3378 02:18:28,955 --> 02:18:32,614 thinking, "I'm going to start to queer my franchise." 3379 02:18:32,718 --> 02:18:33,788 But I was. 3380 02:18:33,891 --> 02:18:36,237 You know, I was starting to do that. 3381 02:18:36,342 --> 02:18:38,343 ♪♪ 3382 02:18:38,448 --> 02:18:39,862 Chucky has evolved. 3383 02:18:39,966 --> 02:18:43,625 His own experience of his own sexuality 3384 02:18:43,728 --> 02:18:47,284 expands over the course of the franchise, 3385 02:18:47,388 --> 02:18:49,010 and that's something that I'm probably 3386 02:18:49,112 --> 02:18:52,945 a little ridiculously proud of. 3387 02:18:53,048 --> 02:18:54,429 -This means war. 3388 02:18:54,532 --> 02:18:56,050 -When I hear a noise, I turn around, 3389 02:18:56,155 --> 02:18:59,400 and Chucky walks out from behind the file cabinet 3390 02:18:59,503 --> 02:19:02,092 and raises his dagger. 3391 02:19:02,195 --> 02:19:03,438 -[Shouting] 3392 02:19:03,541 --> 02:19:05,853 -And I simply saw him and reacted. 3393 02:19:05,958 --> 02:19:07,165 -[Gasps] 3394 02:19:07,269 --> 02:19:11,584 -Colonel Cochran dies by heart attack. 3395 02:19:11,688 --> 02:19:12,999 -One always likes to have something 3396 02:19:13,102 --> 02:19:15,450 about one's role be unique. 3397 02:19:15,554 --> 02:19:17,072 -He's not a tough guy, 3398 02:19:17,175 --> 02:19:21,698 so you lose the humor of this strutting martinet 3399 02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:26,116 who takes one look at a doll and drops dead. 3400 02:19:26,218 --> 02:19:27,289 That was the joke. 3401 02:19:27,393 --> 02:19:28,981 [Glass shatters] 3402 02:19:29,084 --> 02:19:30,983 -We went right up to the fall, and then the stunt double 3403 02:19:31,085 --> 02:19:33,916 jumps in and crashed through the display case. 3404 02:19:34,020 --> 02:19:36,851 -It pays off really well when he falls into it. 3405 02:19:36,954 --> 02:19:39,440 -Then he got up, and I laid down in the broken glass 3406 02:19:39,543 --> 02:19:41,269 and did one last expiration. 3407 02:19:41,373 --> 02:19:43,443 ♪♪ 3408 02:19:43,547 --> 02:19:44,652 -The camera is going past 3409 02:19:44,754 --> 02:19:46,308 all these kids who are looking 3410 02:19:46,412 --> 02:19:48,034 at the commander of the academy, who is dead, 3411 02:19:48,138 --> 02:19:49,622 and his body being taken out. 3412 02:19:49,726 --> 02:19:51,555 We did 39 takes of that. 3413 02:19:51,659 --> 02:19:53,764 -I just stood in the background, 3414 02:19:53,868 --> 02:19:58,424 and I watched take 29 and take 30. 3415 02:19:58,528 --> 02:20:00,046 I thought 28 was a pretty good take. 3416 02:20:00,150 --> 02:20:01,185 [Laughs] 3417 02:20:01,289 --> 02:20:03,464 [Razor whirring] 3418 02:20:03,567 --> 02:20:07,019 -The death of that character, the barber, I love. 3419 02:20:07,122 --> 02:20:09,470 I think that's probably my favorite sequence 3420 02:20:09,573 --> 02:20:10,781 from that movie. 3421 02:20:10,885 --> 02:20:12,093 -Presto. 3422 02:20:12,196 --> 02:20:14,544 -In the barbershop, you have a big mirror. 3423 02:20:14,647 --> 02:20:16,131 And how do you shoot in a mirror? 3424 02:20:16,235 --> 02:20:18,996 How do you shoot the scene in a very tight space? 3425 02:20:19,100 --> 02:20:21,999 -It was a little bit of a nod to "Sweeney Todd." 3426 02:20:22,103 --> 02:20:25,693 -♪ I'll not meet again, my little darling ♪ 3427 02:20:25,796 --> 02:20:27,867 -We created the barbershop on stage, 3428 02:20:27,971 --> 02:20:31,975 and that gave me the ability to create multi images 3429 02:20:32,078 --> 02:20:33,839 in the shop of mirror 3430 02:20:33,942 --> 02:20:35,841 reflected on mirror reflected on mirror. 3431 02:20:35,944 --> 02:20:38,050 -We were always there, off camera, 3432 02:20:38,153 --> 02:20:41,536 watching Andy perform his scenes, which was amazing. 3433 02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:42,813 -When he was getting the 3434 02:20:42,917 --> 02:20:44,677 prosthetic neck put on, you know, 3435 02:20:44,781 --> 02:20:46,852 so that when Chucky slashed it, the blood would pour out... 3436 02:20:46,955 --> 02:20:48,336 [Chucky laughing] 3437 02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:50,718 -We got giggling fits and had to run away. 3438 02:20:50,821 --> 02:20:53,721 -And I also love the line when he's dying, 3439 02:20:53,824 --> 02:20:55,239 and he looks at himself in the mirror, 3440 02:20:55,343 --> 02:20:56,378 and Chucky's saying... 3441 02:20:56,482 --> 02:20:58,829 -It's definitely you. 3442 02:20:58,933 --> 02:21:00,452 -I mean, with "Child's Play," 3443 02:21:00,555 --> 02:21:04,594 I guess some people just need killing. 3444 02:21:04,697 --> 02:21:05,905 We were actually out in the woods 3445 02:21:06,009 --> 02:21:07,631 when we first started filming it. 3446 02:21:07,735 --> 02:21:10,738 -We had some exteriors, real live forest, 3447 02:21:10,841 --> 02:21:12,912 and then we were on a soundstage where they built stuff. 3448 02:21:13,016 --> 02:21:14,707 -I mean, we'd shot there for a couple days. 3449 02:21:14,811 --> 02:21:16,606 And then, it started raining, 3450 02:21:16,709 --> 02:21:18,711 and the fields were getting very wet, 3451 02:21:18,815 --> 02:21:21,645 and the trucks were starting to sink. 3452 02:21:21,749 --> 02:21:23,544 -So I talked to the production designer 3453 02:21:23,647 --> 02:21:25,856 about building a forest 3454 02:21:25,960 --> 02:21:28,549 on one of the smaller stages at Universal. 3455 02:21:28,652 --> 02:21:30,689 -Come on, Andy. I want to show you something. 3456 02:21:30,792 --> 02:21:34,796 -Our first view of the amusement park is from afar, 3457 02:21:34,900 --> 02:21:40,008 this sort of romantic moment between Andy and De Silva. 3458 02:21:40,112 --> 02:21:41,700 -Pretty cool, huh? 3459 02:21:41,803 --> 02:21:44,150 -I think the vulnerability that he was able to portray 3460 02:21:44,254 --> 02:21:46,428 made her feel close to him and safe with him. 3461 02:21:46,532 --> 02:21:53,401 -There is something magical and fairytale-ish about that. 3462 02:21:53,505 --> 02:21:55,161 -His mom was there for the kissing scene, 3463 02:21:55,265 --> 02:21:57,129 and I remember saying, "When we reshoot this, 3464 02:21:57,232 --> 02:21:58,648 the mom's gotta go." 3465 02:21:58,751 --> 02:22:01,789 I mean, we can't have a first kiss on screen 3466 02:22:01,892 --> 02:22:03,929 with the mother watching. It's just too awkward. 3467 02:22:04,032 --> 02:22:06,414 ♪♪ 3468 02:22:06,518 --> 02:22:09,382 -It just seemed like a darkly clever, 3469 02:22:09,486 --> 02:22:11,074 Chucky-esque thing to do for him 3470 02:22:11,177 --> 02:22:15,319 to replace the paint pellets with actual ammo. 3471 02:22:15,423 --> 02:22:16,769 -Hold your fire! 3472 02:22:16,873 --> 02:22:18,460 -The death scene was a fun moment. 3473 02:22:18,564 --> 02:22:20,566 Chucky gives me the finger, and he says... 3474 02:22:20,670 --> 02:22:21,912 -Hi, soldier. 3475 02:22:22,016 --> 02:22:23,258 [Laughs] 3476 02:22:23,362 --> 02:22:28,194 -That character's final line before he dies is... 3477 02:22:28,298 --> 02:22:29,471 -Fuck me. 3478 02:22:29,575 --> 02:22:30,818 And he was asking me, 3479 02:22:30,921 --> 02:22:33,717 "Is there a metaphorical piece of this? 3480 02:22:33,821 --> 02:22:35,892 and I went, "Maybe." 3481 02:22:35,995 --> 02:22:37,721 -"Ooh, fuck me." 3482 02:22:37,825 --> 02:22:40,137 And Jack said, "Cut! Travis, what was that?" 3483 02:22:40,241 --> 02:22:42,208 [Gunshot] 3484 02:22:42,312 --> 02:22:44,107 -De Silva never liked Shelton. 3485 02:22:44,210 --> 02:22:45,660 I mean, obviously, they were in conflict 3486 02:22:45,764 --> 02:22:47,248 the whole time she was at that academy. 3487 02:22:47,351 --> 02:22:50,113 But when he got shot, I think there was a guilt 3488 02:22:50,216 --> 02:22:52,149 because in the back of her mind, at one point or another, 3489 02:22:52,253 --> 02:22:54,186 she's like, "Oh, my God, I wish he'd die." 3490 02:22:54,289 --> 02:22:56,533 -Yeah, it kind of breaks my heart that Shelton dies. 3491 02:22:56,637 --> 02:22:58,846 -Even though he's the bad guy, 3492 02:22:58,949 --> 02:23:01,711 you sort of still care about him, in a way. 3493 02:23:01,814 --> 02:23:06,232 -Matthew's character responds so heavily to my death. 3494 02:23:06,336 --> 02:23:07,751 -Oh, God, he's not breathing. 3495 02:23:07,855 --> 02:23:10,892 -Clearly, these two guys had a deep, deep bond, 3496 02:23:10,996 --> 02:23:12,756 and this death affected him in a big way, 3497 02:23:12,860 --> 02:23:14,516 and it was a beautiful performance by Matthew. 3498 02:23:14,620 --> 02:23:16,242 [Indistinct shouting] 3499 02:23:16,346 --> 02:23:19,176 [Dramatic music plays] 3500 02:23:19,280 --> 02:23:22,697 -Whitehurst's death is so dramatic and heartfelt. 3501 02:23:22,801 --> 02:23:24,354 -I blowed up real good. 3502 02:23:24,457 --> 02:23:27,426 [Explosion] 3503 02:23:27,529 --> 02:23:29,670 There was a platform over a pit, 3504 02:23:29,773 --> 02:23:31,775 and the pit had a lot of what 3505 02:23:31,879 --> 02:23:35,296 I think it's called Fuller's earth that blew out. 3506 02:23:35,399 --> 02:23:36,435 ♪♪ 3507 02:23:36,538 --> 02:23:38,471 -Dean was perfect in that role. 3508 02:23:38,575 --> 02:23:39,852 -Dean did such a great job of building 3509 02:23:39,956 --> 02:23:41,405 that character along the way. 3510 02:23:41,509 --> 02:23:42,614 -I love that his character got to be 3511 02:23:42,717 --> 02:23:44,132 a bit of a hero in the end. 3512 02:23:44,236 --> 02:23:45,030 And I said to myself, 3513 02:23:45,133 --> 02:23:46,652 "This is my moment of truth," 3514 02:23:46,756 --> 02:23:48,274 and I jumped on the hand grenade. 3515 02:23:48,378 --> 02:23:51,105 I did the best I could to find a way to motivate that. 3516 02:23:51,208 --> 02:23:53,314 I don't know if I succeeded. I hope I did. 3517 02:23:53,417 --> 02:23:56,628 -[Breathing heavily] 3518 02:23:56,731 --> 02:23:58,388 -Carnivals are creepy, right? 3519 02:23:58,491 --> 02:24:02,323 I mean, isn't that a perfect opportunity to let Chucky loose? 3520 02:24:02,426 --> 02:24:03,980 -We brought in a real carnival, 3521 02:24:04,083 --> 02:24:06,465 set it up in a field, which was mind-blowing to me. 3522 02:24:06,568 --> 02:24:07,915 -They basically rented a carnival 3523 02:24:08,018 --> 02:24:09,710 and we just, like, set it up. 3524 02:24:09,813 --> 02:24:11,435 -There's a moment that my wife and I and daughters 3525 02:24:11,539 --> 02:24:13,092 are walking through. 3526 02:24:13,196 --> 02:24:14,542 -There's your prize! -There you go. 3527 02:24:14,646 --> 02:24:15,923 -Thank you, Daddy! 3528 02:24:16,026 --> 02:24:17,649 -There are carnivals that you can rent. 3529 02:24:17,752 --> 02:24:20,168 So we were able to just call up and say, 3530 02:24:20,272 --> 02:24:23,275 "Can you erect your carnival at such-and-such a place?" 3531 02:24:23,378 --> 02:24:25,967 -Say, give that thing a rest, or you're out of here, both of you? 3532 02:24:26,071 --> 02:24:30,075 I was doing a play called "Tony n' Tina's Wedding." 3533 02:24:30,178 --> 02:24:33,285 I know Don came but also Jack Bender. 3534 02:24:33,388 --> 02:24:37,703 I do not recall auditioning, so I think it was 3535 02:24:37,807 --> 02:24:41,051 just say, "Would you do it?" and I said, "Yes!" 3536 02:24:41,155 --> 02:24:43,053 -Mister, Mister, you gotta help me! 3537 02:24:43,157 --> 02:24:45,884 -Throughout all the "Child's Play" movies, 3538 02:24:45,987 --> 02:24:50,820 there's always the adult that does not listen to the kid. 3539 02:24:50,923 --> 02:24:55,341 -Adults look at children oftentimes like, 3540 02:24:55,445 --> 02:24:57,309 "Well, you're just a kid. What do you know?" 3541 02:24:57,412 --> 02:24:59,863 -Have a seat. How about some gum, Private? 3542 02:24:59,967 --> 02:25:01,589 -I love the foreshadowing, 3543 02:25:01,693 --> 02:25:05,489 when I open up the drawer to get the gum, 3544 02:25:05,593 --> 02:25:08,216 and there happens to be a pistol 3545 02:25:08,320 --> 02:25:09,735 right there. [Laughs] 3546 02:25:09,839 --> 02:25:13,152 So we know something might happen with that gun. 3547 02:25:13,256 --> 02:25:15,499 ♪♪ 3548 02:25:15,603 --> 02:25:19,641 Now, I thought I would have a wonderful death like my wife, 3549 02:25:19,745 --> 02:25:21,091 Beth Grant... 3550 02:25:21,195 --> 02:25:22,472 -Aah! 3551 02:25:22,575 --> 02:25:24,405 -...but I did not. 3552 02:25:24,508 --> 02:25:27,684 -Justin and my character arrive and discover 3553 02:25:27,788 --> 02:25:29,651 the body of the security guard. 3554 02:25:29,755 --> 02:25:31,239 -I'm a dead body. 3555 02:25:31,343 --> 02:25:33,310 lying on this sawdust 3556 02:25:33,414 --> 02:25:36,037 while they're having a bunch of dialogue. 3557 02:25:36,141 --> 02:25:37,763 ♪♪ 3558 02:25:37,867 --> 02:25:40,386 That was the toughest job I've ever done -- 3559 02:25:40,490 --> 02:25:42,181 just being dead. 3560 02:25:42,285 --> 02:25:44,287 ♪♪ 3561 02:25:44,390 --> 02:25:45,702 -Perfect. 3562 02:25:45,806 --> 02:25:47,566 There was a set piece 3563 02:25:47,669 --> 02:25:49,671 that we ended up not being able to do 3564 02:25:49,775 --> 02:25:51,156 because it was too expensive, 3565 02:25:51,259 --> 02:25:53,296 but it was in various drafts of the script 3566 02:25:53,399 --> 02:25:56,368 where Chucky is on a more traditional roller coaster. 3567 02:25:56,471 --> 02:25:57,852 -But they didn't feel that they had the budget. 3568 02:25:57,956 --> 02:25:59,509 -We just couldn't afford it. 3569 02:25:59,612 --> 02:26:01,856 -So I came up with the idea of a house of horror, 3570 02:26:01,960 --> 02:26:03,271 and I'll never forget looking -- 3571 02:26:03,375 --> 02:26:04,928 they're looking at me like I was nuts. 3572 02:26:05,032 --> 02:26:06,585 Jack came to me that evening and said, 3573 02:26:06,688 --> 02:26:08,311 "Rich, I like your idea. Let's do it." 3574 02:26:08,414 --> 02:26:11,038 -So we built the roller coaster on the stage. 3575 02:26:11,141 --> 02:26:12,798 -We all had so much fun with these sets, 3576 02:26:12,902 --> 02:26:14,766 and those designers did such a good job. 3577 02:26:14,869 --> 02:26:17,285 That was one of my favorite sets that was built. 3578 02:26:17,389 --> 02:26:18,424 [Woman screams] 3579 02:26:18,528 --> 02:26:20,323 ♪♪ 3580 02:26:20,426 --> 02:26:23,498 -Oh, hello! I'm so glad you could come by. 3581 02:26:23,602 --> 02:26:26,191 Come on over here. We're making a movie. Come on. 3582 02:26:26,294 --> 02:26:29,539 How do I create, on stage, a roller coaster? 3583 02:26:29,642 --> 02:26:32,093 And that was the first thing that Jack asked me. 3584 02:26:32,197 --> 02:26:33,405 [Chuckles] 3585 02:26:33,508 --> 02:26:35,096 So I said, "To be honest with you, I don't know," 3586 02:26:35,200 --> 02:26:36,753 'cause I had a very tight budget 3587 02:26:36,857 --> 02:26:38,859 and a very short period of time. 3588 02:26:38,962 --> 02:26:41,102 So I found, through research, 3589 02:26:41,206 --> 02:26:43,829 someone who had a roller-coaster track, 3590 02:26:43,933 --> 02:26:45,313 but he didn't have the car. 3591 02:26:45,417 --> 02:26:47,143 I said, "Well, that's great." [Chuckles] 3592 02:26:47,246 --> 02:26:50,663 'Cause I wanted to build the car as a piece of horror. 3593 02:26:50,767 --> 02:26:51,872 ♪♪ 3594 02:26:51,975 --> 02:26:53,390 -The roller-coaster ride 3595 02:26:53,494 --> 02:26:55,496 was done on the Phantom stage at Universal, 3596 02:26:55,599 --> 02:26:58,085 where they shot the original "Phantom of the Opera." 3597 02:26:58,188 --> 02:27:02,227 -And the Grim Reaper scythes off Chucky's face. 3598 02:27:02,330 --> 02:27:03,918 -Aah! 3599 02:27:04,022 --> 02:27:06,714 Made him sort of "Phantom of the Opera" Chucky there. 3600 02:27:06,818 --> 02:27:08,578 ♪♪ 3601 02:27:08,681 --> 02:27:10,269 [Both scream] 3602 02:27:10,373 --> 02:27:11,857 ♪♪ 3603 02:27:11,961 --> 02:27:14,791 They go into that wonderful mountain of skulls. 3604 02:27:14,895 --> 02:27:16,620 -I shot my own stunts. 3605 02:27:16,724 --> 02:27:18,036 -[Screaming] 3606 02:27:18,139 --> 02:27:20,901 -I was hanging from an invisible 3607 02:27:21,004 --> 02:27:23,006 metal protection wire, 3608 02:27:23,110 --> 02:27:25,146 and it went through my clothes, and it went down, 3609 02:27:25,250 --> 02:27:27,424 and there was a harness. I was really hanging. 3610 02:27:27,528 --> 02:27:31,428 -And there was, like, huge industrial fans below us. 3611 02:27:31,532 --> 02:27:34,638 -Chucky falls into that and just gets ripped to shreds. 3612 02:27:34,742 --> 02:27:36,848 -Aah! 3613 02:27:36,951 --> 02:27:39,402 -Him falling into this gigantic, 3614 02:27:39,505 --> 02:27:41,404 industrial-sized fan 3615 02:27:41,507 --> 02:27:43,958 and being torn into pieces is really cool. 3616 02:27:44,062 --> 02:27:45,546 [Police radio chatter] 3617 02:27:45,649 --> 02:27:48,238 -As she's getting carted off in the ambulance, 3618 02:27:48,342 --> 02:27:50,827 it's all wrapped up nicely. Chucky's been blown up. 3619 02:27:50,931 --> 02:27:52,864 -There is no obvious cliffhanger. 3620 02:27:52,967 --> 02:27:56,315 -I always felt that she would be back for more 3621 02:27:56,419 --> 02:27:58,559 because she and Chucky were not done. 3622 02:27:58,662 --> 02:28:00,319 -I think that that last scene, 3623 02:28:00,423 --> 02:28:02,977 where Andy's being taken away in the car, 3624 02:28:03,081 --> 02:28:05,186 it's not great. It's not great. 3625 02:28:05,290 --> 02:28:11,537 And I think it's just symptomatic of my fatigue. 3626 02:28:11,641 --> 02:28:13,401 -I poked at the trash 3627 02:28:13,505 --> 02:28:15,921 as the credits that nobody reads go up. 3628 02:28:16,025 --> 02:28:18,337 -He's stabbing the trash and putting it in a bag, 3629 02:28:18,441 --> 02:28:22,479 and there is a piece of Chucky's face lying there on the ground. 3630 02:28:22,583 --> 02:28:25,862 He stabs it and then stuffs it into the bag. 3631 02:28:25,966 --> 02:28:28,554 That was the way that Chucky would come back, 3632 02:28:28,658 --> 02:28:29,935 but I understand that was cut. 3633 02:28:30,039 --> 02:28:32,489 -Was I cut from the film? Those bastards! 3634 02:28:32,593 --> 02:28:34,836 Where's my agent? 3635 02:28:34,940 --> 02:28:36,528 -Chucky's training now complete, 3636 02:28:36,631 --> 02:28:40,083 it was time to prepare for a tour of terror. 3637 02:28:40,187 --> 02:28:43,086 The film's first stop before storming theaters, 3638 02:28:43,190 --> 02:28:46,538 post-production editing, scoring, and ADR. 3639 02:28:46,641 --> 02:28:50,024 -I was super excited to get a call to come back again, 3640 02:28:50,128 --> 02:28:51,992 this time as an assistant editor. 3641 02:28:52,095 --> 02:28:54,063 -I did write the score with my partner at the time, 3642 02:28:54,166 --> 02:28:55,512 John D'Andrea. 3643 02:28:55,616 --> 02:28:57,756 We just knew that Jack Bender wanted something 3644 02:28:57,859 --> 02:28:59,585 really different than the past scores. 3645 02:28:59,689 --> 02:29:02,934 -They were known at the time for "Baywatch." 3646 02:29:03,037 --> 02:29:05,833 -I was used to, you know, young, beautiful women 3647 02:29:05,937 --> 02:29:08,215 running down the beach in slow-motion. 3648 02:29:08,318 --> 02:29:11,908 So to go over to Chucky was a whole other thing. 3649 02:29:12,012 --> 02:29:14,428 -There was definitely a sense of deadlines. 3650 02:29:14,531 --> 02:29:15,981 Constant deadlines. 3651 02:29:16,085 --> 02:29:18,156 -Tell you, we worked tirelessly on that thing. 3652 02:29:18,259 --> 02:29:21,193 I mean, hundreds and hundreds of hours went into that score. 3653 02:29:21,297 --> 02:29:23,713 -I feel like we still delivered a great movie. 3654 02:29:23,816 --> 02:29:26,923 -The movie itself, altogether, in the theater was awesome. 3655 02:29:27,027 --> 02:29:28,373 -The first time I saw the movie 3656 02:29:28,476 --> 02:29:30,064 was at the cast and crew screening, 3657 02:29:30,168 --> 02:29:31,859 and that was just awesome. 3658 02:29:31,963 --> 02:29:33,516 -I thought it was incredibly exciting. 3659 02:29:33,619 --> 02:29:34,966 I think I brought my mom. 3660 02:29:35,069 --> 02:29:36,691 -There was so much to love about the film, 3661 02:29:36,795 --> 02:29:37,969 so many surprises. 3662 02:29:38,072 --> 02:29:39,971 -I've seen the movie a couple times, 3663 02:29:40,074 --> 02:29:41,765 and I have fun, and I laugh out loud. 3664 02:29:41,869 --> 02:29:43,491 -I'm just watching, you know, 3665 02:29:43,595 --> 02:29:45,390 just like everybody else in the audience, 3666 02:29:45,493 --> 02:29:48,048 not knowing what to expect next. 3667 02:29:48,151 --> 02:29:50,740 -"Child's Play 3" was deployed to theaters 3668 02:29:50,843 --> 02:29:53,156 on August 30, 1991. 3669 02:29:53,260 --> 02:29:55,124 While critics and audiences 3670 02:29:55,227 --> 02:29:57,954 conferred a less than friendly homecoming, 3671 02:29:58,058 --> 02:30:00,060 the cast and crew believed their time 3672 02:30:00,163 --> 02:30:03,270 in the trenches would forever be memorable. 3673 02:30:03,373 --> 02:30:06,549 -"Child's Play 3" was not viewed successfully. 3674 02:30:06,652 --> 02:30:08,309 The film just didn't seem to work. 3675 02:30:08,413 --> 02:30:10,380 -Box office-wise, 2 didn't do as well as 1, 3676 02:30:10,484 --> 02:30:11,968 and 3 didn't do as well as 2. 3677 02:30:12,072 --> 02:30:13,625 -The movie did not do well. 3678 02:30:13,728 --> 02:30:15,316 -The reviews certainly hurt. 3679 02:30:15,420 --> 02:30:17,422 -The last line, Andy says, "I've been here before." 3680 02:30:17,525 --> 02:30:19,389 I think it was the L.A. Timesreview, 3681 02:30:19,493 --> 02:30:22,392 something like, "We sure have." Went, "Eh." 3682 02:30:22,496 --> 02:30:24,843 -I thought it was probably over at that point. 3683 02:30:24,946 --> 02:30:26,500 -The failure of that movie 3684 02:30:26,603 --> 02:30:30,366 was my first experience with failure in Hollywood. 3685 02:30:30,469 --> 02:30:32,057 -The studio, at that point, 3686 02:30:32,161 --> 02:30:34,335 wondered if maybe we should change writers. 3687 02:30:34,439 --> 02:30:37,338 That was something that I was dead set against. 3688 02:30:37,442 --> 02:30:39,168 -You know, I think I was amazed that it did three, 3689 02:30:39,271 --> 02:30:41,929 and I wasn't surprised when people were tired of it. 3690 02:30:42,033 --> 02:30:44,552 -The first one, we were discovering a brand-new animal. 3691 02:30:44,656 --> 02:30:47,072 Second one, we were improving that and making it even better. 3692 02:30:47,176 --> 02:30:48,660 By the time we got to the third one, 3693 02:30:48,763 --> 02:30:51,007 I think it was just same old, same old, in a sense. 3694 02:30:51,111 --> 02:30:53,044 -I really thought, "Okay. That's the end." 3695 02:30:53,147 --> 02:30:55,494 And it was the end for quite a while. 3696 02:30:55,598 --> 02:30:58,049 -It was the first negative impact 3697 02:30:58,152 --> 02:31:00,603 on my career and livelihood. 3698 02:31:00,706 --> 02:31:04,089 So, you know, it was very existential for me. 3699 02:31:04,193 --> 02:31:06,471 So I think it kind of skews my -- 3700 02:31:06,574 --> 02:31:09,232 my whole feeling about the film. 3701 02:31:09,336 --> 02:31:11,614 -And I go back and applaud Don because he took what was 3702 02:31:11,717 --> 02:31:13,926 this sort of silly little horror franchise, 3703 02:31:14,030 --> 02:31:15,514 and he's really turned it into something 3704 02:31:15,618 --> 02:31:18,379 that is speaking on a much deeper level. 3705 02:31:18,483 --> 02:31:20,105 -I would say the making of "Child's Play 3" 3706 02:31:20,209 --> 02:31:22,280 was an adventure. 3707 02:31:22,383 --> 02:31:25,076 -I have to say that I'm very, very proud. 3708 02:31:25,179 --> 02:31:27,285 The effect that it has had on many, 3709 02:31:27,388 --> 02:31:31,047 many people has been a tremendous success, 3710 02:31:31,151 --> 02:31:33,291 and being part of that success, 3711 02:31:33,394 --> 02:31:36,466 I feel I've been -- I've contributed a great deal. 3712 02:31:36,570 --> 02:31:38,089 -For me, it was very satisfying 3713 02:31:38,192 --> 02:31:41,057 to be invited back to do the third movie, 3714 02:31:41,161 --> 02:31:43,404 having been a big fan of the first one 3715 02:31:43,508 --> 02:31:46,373 and being part of the success of the second one. 3716 02:31:46,476 --> 02:31:49,341 So, for me, it gave my early career 3717 02:31:49,445 --> 02:31:51,757 a sense of completion already that I got to be part 3718 02:31:51,861 --> 02:31:56,693 of this huge, fun horror franchise of the Chucky world. 3719 02:31:56,797 --> 02:32:00,180 -I think learning about Chucky was fun. 3720 02:32:00,283 --> 02:32:02,285 I think arguing with the crew 3721 02:32:02,389 --> 02:32:05,426 that they weren't going fast enough wasn't fun. 3722 02:32:05,530 --> 02:32:08,429 -Well, I definitely enjoyed the process. 3723 02:32:08,533 --> 02:32:10,983 That was very exciting. Especially when I see it, 3724 02:32:11,087 --> 02:32:13,124 you know, these days, I think, 3725 02:32:13,227 --> 02:32:14,573 "Those are some pretty cool cues." 3726 02:32:14,677 --> 02:32:17,818 -It was a good experience because we 3727 02:32:17,921 --> 02:32:19,475 did enjoy ourselves. 3728 02:32:19,578 --> 02:32:21,856 And when, you know, "Cut!" happened, 3729 02:32:21,960 --> 02:32:23,548 we'd often laugh, you know, 3730 02:32:23,651 --> 02:32:26,585 so we wouldn't take it so seriously on the set. 3731 02:32:26,689 --> 02:32:30,486 -I want to say thank you. Thank you for Jack Bender, 3732 02:32:30,589 --> 02:32:34,421 and thank you for Don Mancini to write it. 3733 02:32:34,524 --> 02:32:36,216 -I've played opposite Helen Mirren 3734 02:32:36,319 --> 02:32:37,769 and Denzel Washington, 3735 02:32:37,872 --> 02:32:39,391 but to play opposite Chucky, 3736 02:32:39,495 --> 02:32:41,704 this is a -- this is an honor. 3737 02:32:41,807 --> 02:32:43,947 -It was just so cool to be a part of this thing 3738 02:32:44,051 --> 02:32:46,329 that is loved by so many. 3739 02:32:46,433 --> 02:32:48,262 Being a part of the Chucky-verse, 3740 02:32:48,366 --> 02:32:50,230 it's just one of the coolest things. 3741 02:32:50,333 --> 02:32:53,164 -The most fun part of making "Child's Play 3" 3742 02:32:53,267 --> 02:32:54,751 would have to have been, for me, 3743 02:32:54,855 --> 02:32:57,237 playing that great character that I got to play. 3744 02:32:57,340 --> 02:33:00,861 Being able to bark lines to people like R. Lee Ermey 3745 02:33:00,964 --> 02:33:02,932 from "Full Metal Jacket"! 3746 02:33:03,035 --> 02:33:06,211 And just being involved in such an iconic franchise, 3747 02:33:06,315 --> 02:33:08,317 you just felt giddy every day going to work. 3748 02:33:08,420 --> 02:33:10,284 -Making that movie was so exciting 3749 02:33:10,388 --> 02:33:12,700 because it was my first feature film. 3750 02:33:12,804 --> 02:33:15,876 It was my first studio project. It was a great time. 3751 02:33:15,979 --> 02:33:17,636 -Everyone was great. 3752 02:33:17,740 --> 02:33:21,157 Like, you know, it was just beautiful to start my career 3753 02:33:21,261 --> 02:33:23,884 in a very high professional atmosphere, 3754 02:33:23,987 --> 02:33:26,507 with quality top professionals. 3755 02:33:26,611 --> 02:33:29,338 -Being a part of a franchise with a character like Chucky 3756 02:33:29,441 --> 02:33:31,236 was one of the most fun and wonderful 3757 02:33:31,340 --> 02:33:33,342 and exciting opportunities that I've had. 3758 02:33:33,445 --> 02:33:36,276 For me, to get to play and have so much fun 3759 02:33:36,379 --> 02:33:38,485 in an early part of my career 3760 02:33:38,588 --> 02:33:40,280 with such a wonderful group of people, 3761 02:33:40,383 --> 02:33:43,144 I feel incredibly lucky that that was in my life. 3762 02:33:43,248 --> 02:33:44,698 -Bringing "Child's Play 3" to life 3763 02:33:44,801 --> 02:33:47,494 is probably one of the easiest moments of my life, 3764 02:33:47,597 --> 02:33:51,636 of bringing a production to production, 3765 02:33:51,739 --> 02:33:54,432 and that was that the studio said to me, 3766 02:33:54,535 --> 02:33:56,503 "Start working on 'Child's Play 3.'" 3767 02:33:56,606 --> 02:33:58,505 Whoa! That was incredible. 3768 02:33:58,608 --> 02:34:01,335 -I look at a lot of sequels, and I think, you know, 3769 02:34:01,439 --> 02:34:04,476 "This is a really, really bad idea." 3770 02:34:04,580 --> 02:34:07,824 It rarely, rarely ever works. 3771 02:34:07,928 --> 02:34:10,793 A sequel has to be something that is so good, 3772 02:34:10,896 --> 02:34:14,037 it's not even a sequel, and that's a tall order. 3773 02:34:14,141 --> 02:34:18,525 -It was an admirable attempt to do something different, 3774 02:34:18,628 --> 02:34:20,596 to put a little bit of a spin on it. 3775 02:34:20,699 --> 02:34:22,805 It was just getting tired. 3776 02:34:22,908 --> 02:34:25,048 My main feeling about that movie is, like, 3777 02:34:25,152 --> 02:34:26,498 "I fucked up." 3778 02:34:26,602 --> 02:34:28,224 [Laughs] 3779 02:34:28,328 --> 02:34:29,605 Let's move on to "Bride." 3780 02:34:29,708 --> 02:34:30,882 [Laughs] 3781 02:34:30,985 --> 02:34:32,539 [Chucky laughing] 3782 02:34:32,642 --> 02:34:40,029 ♪♪ 3783 02:34:40,132 --> 02:34:42,031 [Thunder crashes] 3784 02:34:42,134 --> 02:34:45,137 ♪♪ 3785 02:34:45,241 --> 02:34:47,174 -After the disappointing reception 3786 02:34:47,278 --> 02:34:49,763 of 1991's "Child's Play 3," 3787 02:34:49,866 --> 02:34:53,318 Chucky was placed back in his box for years 3788 02:34:53,422 --> 02:34:56,010 after several failed starts to stoke the flames 3789 02:34:56,114 --> 02:34:58,323 of Charles Lee Ray's bloodlust, 3790 02:34:58,427 --> 02:35:01,568 a fourth film was finally given the greenlight -- 3791 02:35:01,671 --> 02:35:02,983 for love. 3792 02:35:03,086 --> 02:35:05,537 -David and I were always in constant communication 3793 02:35:05,641 --> 02:35:07,574 about like, you know, what could we do next 3794 02:35:07,677 --> 02:35:09,438 and when would be the right time. 3795 02:35:09,541 --> 02:35:13,890 -My wife and I were in Rocket Video on La Brea Avenue, 3796 02:35:13,994 --> 02:35:16,652 and there was "The Bride of Frankenstein." 3797 02:35:16,755 --> 02:35:20,690 And it's just like this silly light bulb went off in my head. 3798 02:35:20,794 --> 02:35:22,727 "What if we did a bride for Chucky?" 3799 02:35:22,830 --> 02:35:24,625 -We just thought it would be so much fun 3800 02:35:24,729 --> 02:35:27,594 to add a new character to the mix. 3801 02:35:27,697 --> 02:35:29,527 ♪♪ 3802 02:35:29,630 --> 02:35:31,563 -I was a development executive for David Kirschner, 3803 02:35:31,667 --> 02:35:33,254 the producer. Don went away 3804 02:35:33,358 --> 02:35:36,775 and did the wonderful concocting of imagination that he does. 3805 02:35:36,879 --> 02:35:38,812 -I felt like, "I don't want to repeat the mistake 3806 02:35:38,915 --> 02:35:42,229 of 'Child's Play 3.' We've got to do something new. 3807 02:35:42,333 --> 02:35:44,300 We're gonna make Chucky the lead." 3808 02:35:44,404 --> 02:35:47,338 -I was, indeed, surprised to get the call 3809 02:35:47,441 --> 02:35:48,787 that we were going to do another movie, 3810 02:35:48,891 --> 02:35:50,789 and then delighted when I read it. 3811 02:35:50,893 --> 02:35:54,310 I thought it's a beautifully conceived script. 3812 02:35:54,414 --> 02:35:55,449 -You got that right. 3813 02:35:55,553 --> 02:35:57,002 -When we pitched it, 3814 02:35:57,106 --> 02:35:58,452 David had constructed, 3815 02:35:58,556 --> 02:36:00,212 like, a little chuppah. 3816 02:36:00,316 --> 02:36:01,766 -It was like a wedding scene. 3817 02:36:01,869 --> 02:36:03,561 -We were calling it a haunted chuppah, 3818 02:36:03,664 --> 02:36:06,840 and we had a doll that was representative of Tiffany 3819 02:36:06,943 --> 02:36:08,359 because that hadn't actually been built yet, 3820 02:36:08,462 --> 02:36:10,084 and then an older Chucky doll. 3821 02:36:10,188 --> 02:36:12,190 -We presented it to Marc Platt. 3822 02:36:12,293 --> 02:36:13,743 -And Marc was sort of on the bubble. 3823 02:36:13,847 --> 02:36:15,020 -No. It was no. 3824 02:36:15,124 --> 02:36:17,333 And a bunch of months went by. 3825 02:36:17,437 --> 02:36:20,474 -Marc had a renewed interest in Chucky 3826 02:36:20,578 --> 02:36:23,995 because his daughter had had a slumber party. 3827 02:36:24,098 --> 02:36:26,515 -And she and all of her friends had rented 3828 02:36:26,618 --> 02:36:29,069 all the Chucky movies and loved them. 3829 02:36:29,172 --> 02:36:30,553 -It's the honest to God truth. 3830 02:36:30,657 --> 02:36:32,728 That's what got it made. It was a teenage girl 3831 02:36:32,831 --> 02:36:35,524 that got "Bride of Chucky" the greenlight. 3832 02:36:35,627 --> 02:36:38,492 -With classic inspiration, a knowing wink, 3833 02:36:38,596 --> 02:36:41,668 and Chucky's impending nuptials on the horizon, 3834 02:36:41,771 --> 02:36:43,808 it was time to send out invitations 3835 02:36:43,911 --> 02:36:47,467 for cast and crew to join the ceremony. 3836 02:36:47,570 --> 02:36:49,192 -We pursued Ronny Yu for the director 3837 02:36:49,296 --> 02:36:50,608 of "Bride of Chucky" really hard. 3838 02:36:50,711 --> 02:36:53,404 -When they first asked me to do it, 3839 02:36:53,507 --> 02:36:55,095 -I said, "I have to be very frank." 3840 02:36:55,198 --> 02:36:57,304 You know, I knew nothing. 3841 02:36:57,408 --> 02:36:59,340 I knew nothing about Chucky. 3842 02:36:59,444 --> 02:37:00,825 -Shit! 3843 02:37:00,928 --> 02:37:02,758 -We really didn't think he would entertain it. 3844 02:37:02,861 --> 02:37:05,519 And we thought, "Oh, my gosh. We'll be so lucky if he does." 3845 02:37:05,623 --> 02:37:07,072 -I said, "No, thank you." 3846 02:37:07,176 --> 02:37:08,695 To be very, very honest, 3847 02:37:08,798 --> 02:37:10,248 I don't like horror movies. 3848 02:37:10,351 --> 02:37:11,939 They scare the hell out of me. 3849 02:37:12,043 --> 02:37:13,665 But then my agent said, 3850 02:37:13,769 --> 02:37:16,875 "The producers are great fans of your "Bride with White Hair." 3851 02:37:16,979 --> 02:37:18,912 -I remember watching "The Bride with White Hair" 3852 02:37:19,015 --> 02:37:23,364 with Don, and for me, I had never seen anything like that. 3853 02:37:23,468 --> 02:37:25,228 It blew my mind. 3854 02:37:25,332 --> 02:37:28,404 -Hmm! -Ha! 3855 02:37:28,508 --> 02:37:30,268 -It's just stunning. 3856 02:37:30,371 --> 02:37:34,617 -So I have a phone call with Don and David and Corey, 3857 02:37:34,721 --> 02:37:36,654 and they sort of, like, convinced me. 3858 02:37:36,757 --> 02:37:38,449 -It was also a thing, though, to convince the studio 3859 02:37:38,552 --> 02:37:40,692 because he wasn't doing American movies. 3860 02:37:40,796 --> 02:37:43,661 -And I think one of the major reasons that I said yes 3861 02:37:43,764 --> 02:37:47,043 is because the studio allowed me to bring my own team. 3862 02:37:47,147 --> 02:37:50,391 -The cinematographer was an exceptional human being 3863 02:37:50,495 --> 02:37:52,255 by the name of Peter Pau. 3864 02:37:52,359 --> 02:37:53,809 -We hired Ronny and Peter 3865 02:37:53,912 --> 02:37:57,847 because they had this brilliant, stylized aesthetic. 3866 02:37:57,951 --> 02:38:01,679 -The script came to me through Grace Gilroy. 3867 02:38:01,782 --> 02:38:05,337 There were just so many opportunities for design, 3868 02:38:05,441 --> 02:38:08,755 and I thought, "Oh, my God. This is incredibly scary." 3869 02:38:08,858 --> 02:38:11,274 -I read the script, and suddenly Tiffany comes up -- 3870 02:38:11,378 --> 02:38:12,793 "Oh, my God. A woman doll?" 3871 02:38:12,897 --> 02:38:16,072 -Boom! Out of the Don mind came Tiffany. 3872 02:38:16,176 --> 02:38:18,661 -I loved writing the character of Tiffany because 3873 02:38:18,765 --> 02:38:23,183 I was really able to let my queer freak flag fly. 3874 02:38:23,286 --> 02:38:25,081 And it was all about contrast. 3875 02:38:25,185 --> 02:38:28,775 -Chucky loves his job, and he makes a connection, 3876 02:38:28,878 --> 02:38:31,881 a deep connection with her in spite of himself. 3877 02:38:31,985 --> 02:38:33,711 -They are the Bonnie and Clyde of horror. 3878 02:38:33,814 --> 02:38:35,333 They're Sid and Nancy. 3879 02:38:35,436 --> 02:38:37,059 -I went right to work. And I think I started designing 3880 02:38:37,162 --> 02:38:38,716 before I had any money, I was so excited 3881 02:38:38,819 --> 02:38:40,200 about working on it again. 3882 02:38:40,303 --> 02:38:43,272 -I started to draw what would be this bride. 3883 02:38:43,375 --> 02:38:47,000 and Kevin Yagher yet again hit it out of the park. 3884 02:38:47,103 --> 02:38:49,520 -Ronny came by the shop to look at the Chucky parts I had, 3885 02:38:49,623 --> 02:38:51,314 to meet me for the first time. 3886 02:38:51,418 --> 02:38:53,731 We had a great relationship, and he was very trusting. 3887 02:38:53,834 --> 02:38:55,353 He was saying, "You know, you're the person who knows 3888 02:38:55,456 --> 02:38:56,665 the most about the doll. 3889 02:38:56,768 --> 02:38:58,149 You know, I have to rely on you." 3890 02:38:58,252 --> 02:39:00,082 -[Screaming] 3891 02:39:00,185 --> 02:39:02,947 -Casting Jennifer Tilly and the way the script 3892 02:39:03,050 --> 02:39:05,984 was written were just acts of genius. 3893 02:39:06,088 --> 02:39:08,815 -I was just a fan, and I knew that she was 3894 02:39:08,918 --> 02:39:11,852 the absolute perfect person to play that role. 3895 02:39:11,956 --> 02:39:14,545 -I had just come off my Oscar nomination, 3896 02:39:14,648 --> 02:39:16,581 and I had this idea that I was going to be 3897 02:39:16,685 --> 02:39:19,515 the next Helen Mirren, the next Dame Judi Dench. 3898 02:39:19,619 --> 02:39:21,448 And my agent called up, and he goes, 3899 02:39:21,552 --> 02:39:24,037 "Jennifer, I got you an offer for a movie," 3900 02:39:24,140 --> 02:39:26,004 and I said, "Well, what's it about?" 3901 02:39:26,108 --> 02:39:28,282 and he said, "Well -- [clears throat] -- 3902 02:39:28,386 --> 02:39:30,906 it's about a little doll." 3903 02:39:31,009 --> 02:39:32,701 And I went, "A Chucky movie?! 3904 02:39:32,804 --> 02:39:35,427 I'm not doing a Chucky movie!" [Laughs] 3905 02:39:35,531 --> 02:39:36,843 -I wrote it for Jennifer Tilly, 3906 02:39:36,946 --> 02:39:38,465 even though I didn't know her. 3907 02:39:38,569 --> 02:39:40,536 I had never met her at this point. 3908 02:39:40,640 --> 02:39:41,986 -I heard that Don Mancini, 3909 02:39:42,089 --> 02:39:43,539 when he was writing the voice of Tiffany, 3910 02:39:43,643 --> 02:39:44,851 he kept hearing my voice, 3911 02:39:44,954 --> 02:39:47,370 so he was really obsessed with me. 3912 02:39:47,474 --> 02:39:49,027 -I wanted Jennifer, too. 3913 02:39:49,131 --> 02:39:51,651 Don wanted Jennifer, David wanted Jennifer. 3914 02:39:51,754 --> 02:39:52,962 Corey wanted Jennifer. 3915 02:39:53,066 --> 02:39:54,446 -I got the script, and I thought, 3916 02:39:54,550 --> 02:39:56,103 "Wow, this script is very clever." 3917 02:39:56,207 --> 02:39:59,520 I love camp, and I thought it's sort of haunting, too. 3918 02:39:59,624 --> 02:40:01,453 And I really liked the character. 3919 02:40:01,557 --> 02:40:03,524 I liked that she was just, you know, 3920 02:40:03,628 --> 02:40:05,561 a white-trash girl looking for love. 3921 02:40:05,665 --> 02:40:08,288 -And somehow, there's some people 3922 02:40:08,391 --> 02:40:10,255 in the studio didn't like it. 3923 02:40:10,359 --> 02:40:11,809 -The studio just thought 3924 02:40:11,912 --> 02:40:14,674 that maybe she would be too cartoony for the film. 3925 02:40:14,777 --> 02:40:17,884 -The studio really wanted Tiffani Amber Thiessen 3926 02:40:17,987 --> 02:40:20,024 because she would fit our budget. 3927 02:40:20,127 --> 02:40:21,612 -Because the normal thing at that point 3928 02:40:21,715 --> 02:40:23,027 for a teen horror movie would be to cast 3929 02:40:23,130 --> 02:40:24,960 a kind of a teen regular icon. 3930 02:40:25,063 --> 02:40:28,860 -And it's just like, "Here's an Academy Award nominated actress 3931 02:40:28,964 --> 02:40:30,551 from Woody Allen's "Bullets Over Broadway"... 3932 02:40:30,655 --> 02:40:33,934 -I am sick and tired of getting bumped into and stepped on. 3933 02:40:34,038 --> 02:40:35,833 -...that she is so great in. 3934 02:40:35,936 --> 02:40:38,663 -So it was three weeks of work, and Jennifer's rate 3935 02:40:38,767 --> 02:40:40,907 was $100,000 a week. 3936 02:40:41,010 --> 02:40:45,014 So David and I had to chip in a lot of our own money. 3937 02:40:45,118 --> 02:40:48,224 -Don Mancini and David Kirschner took a pay cut 3938 02:40:48,328 --> 02:40:50,882 because I wanted more money -- [Clears throat] -- 3939 02:40:50,986 --> 02:40:53,195 to "ruin my career." [Laughs] 3940 02:40:53,298 --> 02:40:55,197 I was a brat. [Laughs] 3941 02:40:55,300 --> 02:40:56,612 -It was money well spent. 3942 02:40:56,716 --> 02:40:58,131 -Jennifer Tilly's got that great -- 3943 02:40:58,234 --> 02:41:00,133 just such a great voice. It's so iconic, you know. 3944 02:41:00,236 --> 02:41:03,136 -She flies by the seat of her pants and ad libs. 3945 02:41:03,239 --> 02:41:07,312 -Jennifer is really extraordinary 3946 02:41:07,416 --> 02:41:09,107 at making up dialogue. 3947 02:41:09,211 --> 02:41:11,558 -That aspect of it was crucial for Brad. 3948 02:41:11,662 --> 02:41:13,871 I think he was very excited 3949 02:41:13,974 --> 02:41:16,390 about getting to work with another actor. 3950 02:41:16,494 --> 02:41:18,082 -Brad is a brilliant actor, 3951 02:41:18,185 --> 02:41:21,188 and I really do feel like they love each other so much. 3952 02:41:21,292 --> 02:41:22,569 -It was really a blast. 3953 02:41:22,673 --> 02:41:26,021 She brought me out in a really cool way. 3954 02:41:26,124 --> 02:41:29,956 Suddenly, the whole franchise came to life for me. 3955 02:41:30,059 --> 02:41:32,821 -Critical elements of the film now in place, 3956 02:41:32,924 --> 02:41:35,099 "Bride of Chucky's" courtship ended, 3957 02:41:35,202 --> 02:41:37,860 and the time had come to put a ring on it. 3958 02:41:37,964 --> 02:41:41,484 With that, production on the $25 million film 3959 02:41:41,588 --> 02:41:44,936 began on April 15, 1998. 3960 02:41:45,040 --> 02:41:48,422 -It was the longest shooting schedule that we had had. 3961 02:41:48,526 --> 02:41:50,942 -Making movies with the studio. 3962 02:41:51,046 --> 02:41:53,807 You know, the entire system is different from Hong Kong. 3963 02:41:53,911 --> 02:41:55,429 -I loved Ronny Yu. 3964 02:41:55,533 --> 02:41:57,017 He's Chinese, I'm half Chinese. 3965 02:41:57,121 --> 02:41:58,674 I don't know if that had anything to do with it. 3966 02:41:58,778 --> 02:42:00,745 But he was a really spiritual guy. 3967 02:42:00,849 --> 02:42:03,127 He would burn sage or do a little prayer. 3968 02:42:03,230 --> 02:42:05,854 -At the start of each day of shooting, 3969 02:42:05,957 --> 02:42:09,443 they would do this ritual to dispel spirits. 3970 02:42:09,547 --> 02:42:11,445 [Thunder crashes] 3971 02:42:11,549 --> 02:42:15,656 The evidence depository was a bit of a holdover 3972 02:42:15,760 --> 02:42:17,313 from "Child's Play 2." 3973 02:42:17,417 --> 02:42:20,696 We had a court case with the Catherine Hicks character 3974 02:42:20,800 --> 02:42:23,147 where she is deemed an unfit mother. 3975 02:42:23,250 --> 02:42:26,426 -There's usually a police station involved, 3976 02:42:26,529 --> 02:42:27,945 and there's locker rooms. 3977 02:42:28,048 --> 02:42:30,775 The challenge is making all of that stuff 3978 02:42:30,879 --> 02:42:34,296 visually accessible so it's not boring. 3979 02:42:34,399 --> 02:42:35,746 -In the wake of "Scream," 3980 02:42:35,849 --> 02:42:39,957 this meta moment of seeing Michael Myers' mask 3981 02:42:40,060 --> 02:42:42,545 and the chainsaw from "Texas Chainsaw Massacre," 3982 02:42:42,649 --> 02:42:44,651 that was fun to do. 3983 02:42:44,755 --> 02:42:46,032 ♪♪ 3984 02:42:46,135 --> 02:42:46,964 -Cool. 3985 02:42:47,067 --> 02:42:48,759 -The scene at the beginning, 3986 02:42:48,862 --> 02:42:51,037 where the cop is in a warehouse, 3987 02:42:51,140 --> 02:42:52,659 where he's going to meet Jennifer, 3988 02:42:52,763 --> 02:42:54,730 and the light coming in at night, 3989 02:42:54,834 --> 02:42:56,801 the moon, it's delicious. 3990 02:42:56,905 --> 02:42:59,666 -We found this place. It was so beautiful, 3991 02:42:59,770 --> 02:43:01,426 the shafts of light. 3992 02:43:01,530 --> 02:43:07,467 Jennifer with the blond hair and the black latex mini skirt. 3993 02:43:07,570 --> 02:43:08,917 -And then when I killed the cop, 3994 02:43:09,020 --> 02:43:10,711 and then I put the Chucky doll in the bag, 3995 02:43:10,815 --> 02:43:12,058 and I'm walking away. 3996 02:43:12,161 --> 02:43:13,300 And this is very much the Hong Kong 3997 02:43:13,404 --> 02:43:14,992 film sensibility, also. 3998 02:43:15,095 --> 02:43:16,579 That was just really the greatest introduction 3999 02:43:16,683 --> 02:43:18,029 to Tiffany ever. 4000 02:43:18,133 --> 02:43:20,687 -I remember Ronny saying, 4001 02:43:20,791 --> 02:43:24,864 "It's like a commercial for murder." 4002 02:43:24,967 --> 02:43:27,211 -Well, hello, dolly. 4003 02:43:27,314 --> 02:43:29,144 -I love the scene where Tiffany is stitching 4004 02:43:29,247 --> 02:43:32,043 the doll back together because it's truly a labor of love. 4005 02:43:32,147 --> 02:43:33,493 And I said, "Oh, how about if 4006 02:43:33,596 --> 02:43:34,874 I put the eyeball in my mouth?" 4007 02:43:34,977 --> 02:43:36,358 -And he's like, "Why?" 4008 02:43:36,461 --> 02:43:38,015 And I said, "Oh, I'm just fucking with him." 4009 02:43:38,118 --> 02:43:39,671 And he loved the idea. 4010 02:43:39,775 --> 02:43:42,122 -Hello. I'm Chief Kincaid, Jade's uncle. 4011 02:43:42,226 --> 02:43:44,780 -David Kirschner had a relationship 4012 02:43:44,884 --> 02:43:46,264 and a friendship with John Ritter 4013 02:43:46,368 --> 02:43:48,853 because they had done a TV movie together 4014 02:43:48,957 --> 02:43:50,613 about L. Frank Baum. 4015 02:43:50,717 --> 02:43:54,100 -John Ritter and I had done "The Dreamer of Oz" together. 4016 02:43:54,203 --> 02:43:55,687 -Which Jack Bender directed. 4017 02:43:55,791 --> 02:43:58,932 -David and the producers and Don and Corey 4018 02:43:59,036 --> 02:44:01,038 somehow got hold of John Ritter. 4019 02:44:01,141 --> 02:44:02,625 You know, "Oh, great!" 4020 02:44:02,729 --> 02:44:05,525 -He would play a complete ass 4021 02:44:05,628 --> 02:44:09,046 and a really bad guy. 4022 02:44:09,149 --> 02:44:11,117 Just everything that John wasn't. 4023 02:44:11,220 --> 02:44:14,120 -He said, "Yes! Yes, make me awful. 4024 02:44:14,223 --> 02:44:17,054 Make the audience want to see me die." 4025 02:44:17,157 --> 02:44:19,539 -God bless his memory because he just added 4026 02:44:19,642 --> 02:44:21,092 so much to that film. 4027 02:44:21,196 --> 02:44:23,370 -Yuck. Not my type. 4028 02:44:23,474 --> 02:44:25,510 I'm so over that whole uniform thing. 4029 02:44:25,614 --> 02:44:31,689 -It was very unusual to have a casually gay teenage character 4030 02:44:31,792 --> 02:44:33,173 in a studio horror movie. 4031 02:44:33,277 --> 02:44:36,038 -Jade is going off to prom, 4032 02:44:36,142 --> 02:44:39,179 supposedly, with David, her friend who was gay. 4033 02:44:39,283 --> 02:44:41,112 -David Collins. Nice to meet you, sir. 4034 02:44:41,216 --> 02:44:42,596 -I really wanted this part. 4035 02:44:42,700 --> 02:44:44,771 And I literally read that script in an hour, 4036 02:44:44,875 --> 02:44:46,324 like I just, I rifled through it 4037 02:44:46,428 --> 02:44:48,602 and I was laughing out loud, and I was loving it. 4038 02:44:48,706 --> 02:44:51,053 -He just kind of encapsulated it by saying like, 4039 02:44:51,157 --> 02:44:52,468 "Oh, so he's like the handmaiden. 4040 02:44:52,572 --> 02:44:53,918 He's like the handmaiden to the main characters," 4041 02:44:54,022 --> 02:44:55,437 and we're like, "Yes! That's right." 4042 02:44:55,540 --> 02:44:57,128 So he's kind of a genius. 4043 02:44:57,232 --> 02:45:00,752 -I had made the choice not to play the character gay, 4044 02:45:00,856 --> 02:45:03,203 but Don had given this character a rhythm, 4045 02:45:03,307 --> 02:45:04,722 like the way the character speaks. 4046 02:45:04,825 --> 02:45:06,413 It just -- it was in the writing. 4047 02:45:06,517 --> 02:45:09,209 So all I did was do what I thought was intended by Don. 4048 02:45:09,313 --> 02:45:11,349 -Phew! Something really stinks in here! 4049 02:45:11,453 --> 02:45:14,145 -It was something I found in the writing, actually. 4050 02:45:14,249 --> 02:45:19,426 I didn't initially plan on that character being gay. 4051 02:45:19,530 --> 02:45:21,187 -Don and David and Corey 4052 02:45:21,290 --> 02:45:23,568 thought it's the right thing to do, 4053 02:45:23,672 --> 02:45:25,916 even though it's ahead of its time, you know? 4054 02:45:26,019 --> 02:45:28,608 So, for me, I totally agree with that. 4055 02:45:28,711 --> 02:45:30,058 This movie is different, you know? 4056 02:45:30,161 --> 02:45:32,129 It's not just a slasher movie, you know? 4057 02:45:32,232 --> 02:45:34,441 -You look beautiful. 4058 02:45:34,545 --> 02:45:35,995 -Nick was great, too. 4059 02:45:36,098 --> 02:45:40,240 His handsomeness was a crucial part of the story. 4060 02:45:40,344 --> 02:45:45,073 In a movie that was consciously going for a gay vibe, 4061 02:45:45,176 --> 02:45:47,903 which I was, you needed some beefcake, 4062 02:45:48,007 --> 02:45:51,562 and Nick was not at all shy about that. 4063 02:45:51,665 --> 02:45:55,014 -James Van Der Beek came in to talk to us 4064 02:45:55,117 --> 02:45:56,774 for "Bride of Chucky," 4065 02:45:56,877 --> 02:45:58,534 and the first thing he said is, "I don't want to do this movie." 4066 02:45:58,638 --> 02:46:01,503 And he said his agent really made him come in for it. 4067 02:46:01,606 --> 02:46:03,954 "Thank you very much," and that was the end of that. 4068 02:46:04,057 --> 02:46:06,404 -[Crying] 4069 02:46:06,508 --> 02:46:09,407 -I wasn't a huge horror fan, to be honest. 4070 02:46:09,511 --> 02:46:12,548 "The Exorcist" F'ed me up so bad as a child. 4071 02:46:12,652 --> 02:46:14,412 So when I got the job, of course I went back, 4072 02:46:14,516 --> 02:46:17,277 I started looking at them and started studying, 4073 02:46:17,381 --> 02:46:21,109 like, what it meant to be in a horror movie. 4074 02:46:21,212 --> 02:46:23,214 -He's a guy that really wanted to learn, 4075 02:46:23,318 --> 02:46:25,389 so he always hang out on set, 4076 02:46:25,492 --> 02:46:27,874 even though he's not, you know, his turn. 4077 02:46:27,978 --> 02:46:29,600 -You know, I started trying to research, 4078 02:46:29,703 --> 02:46:31,429 like, what does it mean when these dolls are coming to life? 4079 02:46:31,533 --> 02:46:34,570 And there's a whole history of dolls that come to life. 4080 02:46:34,674 --> 02:46:37,090 and stories that are about dolls that come to life. 4081 02:46:37,194 --> 02:46:39,403 -[Screaming] -[Laughing] 4082 02:46:39,506 --> 02:46:40,197 -[Gasps] 4083 02:46:40,300 --> 02:46:41,750 -Come here! -[Gasps] 4084 02:46:41,853 --> 02:46:45,236 -I appreciate that enthusiasm and the passion 4085 02:46:45,340 --> 02:46:47,894 that he has for movies, you know? 4086 02:46:47,998 --> 02:46:50,655 So I think he's a very good young actor. 4087 02:46:50,759 --> 02:46:52,002 -Jade! 4088 02:46:52,105 --> 02:46:53,831 -Katherine was very young. 4089 02:46:53,934 --> 02:46:55,902 She was 19 when we made that movie, 4090 02:46:56,006 --> 02:46:59,009 so she wasn't really Katherine Heigl yet. 4091 02:46:59,112 --> 02:47:01,356 -Katie was a pro, very serious. 4092 02:47:01,459 --> 02:47:04,152 She had more experience than I had doing a big picture. 4093 02:47:04,255 --> 02:47:05,946 So I learned a lot from her. 4094 02:47:06,050 --> 02:47:07,431 -Working with Katie was great. 4095 02:47:07,534 --> 02:47:09,191 I mean, she was really a serious actress 4096 02:47:09,295 --> 02:47:10,917 and she remains a serious actress, 4097 02:47:11,021 --> 02:47:13,437 and I think that that really sells it. 4098 02:47:13,540 --> 02:47:15,818 -It was very obvious that this is someone 4099 02:47:15,922 --> 02:47:17,579 who was gonna go far. 4100 02:47:17,682 --> 02:47:20,271 ♪♪ 4101 02:47:20,375 --> 02:47:24,275 The "Voodoo for Dummies" was a way for me 4102 02:47:24,379 --> 02:47:29,004 to incorporate the voodoo element 4103 02:47:29,108 --> 02:47:31,351 without hanging my head in shame. 4104 02:47:31,455 --> 02:47:34,251 Just corny and dumb. Let's embrace that. 4105 02:47:34,354 --> 02:47:36,184 I mean, just seeing that book. 4106 02:47:36,287 --> 02:47:38,151 And, also, just hearing Jennifer Tilly 4107 02:47:38,255 --> 02:47:40,671 intone that nonsense. 4108 02:47:40,774 --> 02:47:44,813 -Ade due Damballa! Awake! 4109 02:47:44,916 --> 02:47:48,817 -I'm like, "It's a fucking movie about a supernatural doll!" 4110 02:47:48,920 --> 02:47:49,990 [Laughs] 4111 02:47:50,094 --> 02:47:51,164 -Hey, Tiffany! 4112 02:47:51,268 --> 02:47:52,786 -What are you doing here? 4113 02:47:52,890 --> 02:47:55,824 -An important element of the movie was Alexis Arquette. 4114 02:47:55,927 --> 02:47:59,172 I mean, we definitely made a deliberate choice to, 4115 02:47:59,276 --> 02:48:02,693 whenever possible, cast gay icons. 4116 02:48:02,796 --> 02:48:06,973 You know, Jennifer, of course, Alexis, even John Ritter, 4117 02:48:07,077 --> 02:48:09,355 because of his role in "Three's Company," 4118 02:48:09,458 --> 02:48:12,496 he had a connection to gay culture. 4119 02:48:12,599 --> 02:48:16,120 -I loved Alexis so much, and I had a giant crush on him, 4120 02:48:16,224 --> 02:48:18,088 and he had, like, this kind of secret life. 4121 02:48:18,191 --> 02:48:19,675 Like, I always wanted to hang out with him 4122 02:48:19,779 --> 02:48:21,194 because I really felt like he was the coolest guy. 4123 02:48:21,298 --> 02:48:22,644 He was always nabbing the wigs 4124 02:48:22,747 --> 02:48:24,370 from the wig department because, you know, 4125 02:48:24,473 --> 02:48:26,268 he would dress up like a drag queen. 4126 02:48:26,372 --> 02:48:28,167 His alter ego was Eva Destruction. 4127 02:48:28,270 --> 02:48:29,823 -Thank you so much. 4128 02:48:29,927 --> 02:48:34,069 -We wanted this character to be a little interesting 4129 02:48:34,173 --> 02:48:36,347 in a gender-bending way. 4130 02:48:36,451 --> 02:48:38,867 -I didn't know that she was trans. 4131 02:48:38,970 --> 02:48:40,248 We were going to dinner one night, 4132 02:48:40,351 --> 02:48:41,973 and I'm waiting, and the elevator opens, 4133 02:48:42,077 --> 02:48:44,321 and this very pretty woman steps out, 4134 02:48:44,424 --> 02:48:46,150 and Don says hello, 4135 02:48:46,254 --> 02:48:48,359 and then realized that it was Alexis. 4136 02:48:48,463 --> 02:48:51,362 -One of the highlights, I would say, 4137 02:48:51,466 --> 02:48:54,193 of my career was working with Alexis Arquette. 4138 02:48:54,296 --> 02:48:55,918 It was really exciting. 4139 02:48:56,022 --> 02:49:00,302 And it was almost like a stamp of the queer world's approval. 4140 02:49:00,406 --> 02:49:03,719 It just gave us kind of bona fides, in a way. 4141 02:49:03,823 --> 02:49:06,136 -He had to lay on the floor for like eight hours 4142 02:49:06,239 --> 02:49:08,586 to get all this tattoos on like every few days. 4143 02:49:08,690 --> 02:49:10,968 There were scenes where he's chained up to the bed. 4144 02:49:11,071 --> 02:49:13,073 Never complained. Just funny. 4145 02:49:13,177 --> 02:49:14,868 We loved him so much. 4146 02:49:14,972 --> 02:49:16,629 ♪♪ 4147 02:49:16,732 --> 02:49:19,425 -We had to build a rig where Chucky could spin around on him. 4148 02:49:19,528 --> 02:49:22,013 So it was like this little bracket that went -- 4149 02:49:22,117 --> 02:49:23,670 that he slid into, you know, 4150 02:49:23,774 --> 02:49:25,500 and then we had to pull his lip ring out. 4151 02:49:25,603 --> 02:49:27,122 -Ohh! 4152 02:49:27,226 --> 02:49:29,020 -And I had just quit being in a band 4153 02:49:29,124 --> 02:49:31,368 that was touring for about eight years. 4154 02:49:31,471 --> 02:49:32,403 -Gotcha. 4155 02:49:32,507 --> 02:49:33,991 -My first four auditions, 4156 02:49:34,094 --> 02:49:35,441 I booked three of the gigs, 4157 02:49:35,544 --> 02:49:37,236 and the first one was "Bride of Chucky." 4158 02:49:37,339 --> 02:49:38,858 -Michael Louis Johnson was so good as Needle Nose, 4159 02:49:38,961 --> 02:49:41,826 that kind of conniving -- [Laughs mischievously] 4160 02:49:41,930 --> 02:49:44,174 "Yeah, too bad. The money. But the money." 4161 02:49:44,277 --> 02:49:46,659 -I knew the tone that they were going for. 4162 02:49:46,762 --> 02:49:49,386 I'm not some sympathetic character in a horror movie 4163 02:49:49,489 --> 02:49:50,732 who's being killed. 4164 02:49:50,835 --> 02:49:52,596 Can I wait in the car, please? -No. 4165 02:49:52,699 --> 02:49:54,494 -It's like, "No, I'm the asshole cop." 4166 02:49:54,598 --> 02:49:56,876 And I made more money in 14 days of work 4167 02:49:56,979 --> 02:49:58,464 than I did doing 250 shows 4168 02:49:58,567 --> 02:50:01,156 on the road the year before as a musician. 4169 02:50:01,260 --> 02:50:02,675 -He's actually a very accomplished musician, 4170 02:50:02,778 --> 02:50:04,297 and he played the trumpet at my -- at my wedding. 4171 02:50:04,401 --> 02:50:05,885 [Trumpet plays] 4172 02:50:05,988 --> 02:50:07,542 ♪♪ 4173 02:50:07,645 --> 02:50:08,957 -Let me die. 4174 02:50:09,060 --> 02:50:11,131 -[Screams] 4175 02:50:11,235 --> 02:50:14,100 [Dramatic music plays] 4176 02:50:14,204 --> 02:50:15,550 -She's alive. 4177 02:50:15,653 --> 02:50:16,723 Alive! 4178 02:50:16,827 --> 02:50:18,484 Just seemed right for this character 4179 02:50:18,587 --> 02:50:20,934 and this actress to meet her death 4180 02:50:21,038 --> 02:50:23,213 in a luxuriant bubble bath. 4181 02:50:23,316 --> 02:50:25,318 -John had written that in his first script. 4182 02:50:25,422 --> 02:50:27,631 -I raided past scripts. 4183 02:50:27,734 --> 02:50:30,047 -That was Don's idea. I mean, in the beginning, 4184 02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:32,014 always use "Bride of Frankenstein," 4185 02:50:32,118 --> 02:50:33,844 you know, as this homage. 4186 02:50:33,947 --> 02:50:35,466 -[Screams] 4187 02:50:35,570 --> 02:50:37,157 [Electricity crackles] 4188 02:50:37,261 --> 02:50:38,918 -Even though you're just acting, 4189 02:50:39,021 --> 02:50:42,370 it's always sort of traumatic to have the life go out of you. 4190 02:50:42,473 --> 02:50:44,958 I don't know why. It's just sad. 4191 02:50:45,062 --> 02:50:48,134 And, um, they wanted me to go under the water 4192 02:50:48,238 --> 02:50:49,584 with my eyes open. 4193 02:50:49,687 --> 02:50:51,310 And, of course, everybody loved me 4194 02:50:51,413 --> 02:50:54,105 because I would do whatever. I was like, "Okay. 4195 02:50:54,209 --> 02:50:55,452 You know, there's soap in that water, 4196 02:50:55,555 --> 02:50:57,592 but I'll try. I'll try to do it." 4197 02:50:57,695 --> 02:51:00,457 -What a great attitude Jennifer had of just being dunked 4198 02:51:00,560 --> 02:51:05,358 constantly in this water as she's being electrocuted. 4199 02:51:05,462 --> 02:51:06,911 And her face, and the way 4200 02:51:07,015 --> 02:51:09,328 that that is cut together with back and forth 4201 02:51:09,431 --> 02:51:11,847 between the "Bride of Frankenstein." 4202 02:51:11,951 --> 02:51:13,401 -Then the bubbles going up, 4203 02:51:13,504 --> 02:51:15,851 and the little Chucky doll loves the bubbles. 4204 02:51:15,955 --> 02:51:19,269 And it's just a very beautiful, beautiful sequence. 4205 02:51:19,372 --> 02:51:20,856 -I just consider that genius. 4206 02:51:20,960 --> 02:51:23,100 That's really how you're supposed to do it. 4207 02:51:23,203 --> 02:51:24,722 -It's truly one of my favorite moments 4208 02:51:24,826 --> 02:51:27,760 in any film that I've ever, ever been a part of. 4209 02:51:27,863 --> 02:51:29,209 -You son of a bitch! 4210 02:51:29,313 --> 02:51:32,040 What have you done to me? 4211 02:51:32,143 --> 02:51:35,319 -A key moment in the movie. She becomes a doll. 4212 02:51:35,423 --> 02:51:38,357 -I just look at it as a fantasy love story. 4213 02:51:38,460 --> 02:51:40,220 A tragedy love story. 4214 02:51:40,324 --> 02:51:43,189 -There was the bride, and then she gets the whole makeover 4215 02:51:43,293 --> 02:51:45,467 and goes from a brunette to a blond. 4216 02:51:45,571 --> 02:51:48,228 -Barbie, eat your heart out. 4217 02:51:48,332 --> 02:51:52,232 -It's actually a very technical, demanding shoot. 4218 02:51:52,336 --> 02:51:54,994 Every character has at least 10 puppeteers. 4219 02:51:55,097 --> 02:51:56,478 It's a very complicated thing. 4220 02:51:56,582 --> 02:51:58,480 -He would always ask me, "What would you do here? 4221 02:51:58,584 --> 02:51:59,999 What should I do here?" you know? 4222 02:52:00,102 --> 02:52:01,380 And we worked together, and it was really nice 4223 02:52:01,483 --> 02:52:02,933 to have that -- that trust. 4224 02:52:03,036 --> 02:52:06,971 -And I said, "Listen, watch me. Watch my movement, 4225 02:52:07,075 --> 02:52:08,594 watch my facial. 4226 02:52:08,697 --> 02:52:10,837 See my eyebrows, see my teeth, all that. 4227 02:52:10,941 --> 02:52:12,736 Try to imitate that." 4228 02:52:12,839 --> 02:52:14,531 So they say, "Okay. Is that -- that's what you want? 4229 02:52:14,634 --> 02:52:16,256 We'll give you that." 4230 02:52:16,360 --> 02:52:18,155 -Look, there were moments. There were difficult moments. 4231 02:52:18,258 --> 02:52:20,364 There's no doubt, with animatronics 4232 02:52:20,468 --> 02:52:22,401 and all those people and an A.D. saying, 4233 02:52:22,504 --> 02:52:24,126 "Move, move, move!" 4234 02:52:24,230 --> 02:52:25,749 But it really worked. 4235 02:52:25,852 --> 02:52:28,407 -The heart of Damballa. What's that? 4236 02:52:28,510 --> 02:52:30,650 -You know, it was a new element in the mythology. 4237 02:52:30,754 --> 02:52:35,034 And it's like, "Wait. We didn't need this before. Eh." 4238 02:52:35,137 --> 02:52:36,932 -It was buried withmy corpse. 4239 02:52:37,036 --> 02:52:38,589 -You know, there needed to be a reason 4240 02:52:38,693 --> 02:52:40,936 for them to get from A to B. 4241 02:52:41,040 --> 02:52:43,629 Initially, it was a character, actually. 4242 02:52:43,732 --> 02:52:47,702 It was like another -- a voodoo practitioner. 4243 02:52:47,805 --> 02:52:51,430 But somewhere along the way, we decided to make it an object. 4244 02:52:51,533 --> 02:52:53,742 -Who the hell is this bozo? 4245 02:52:53,846 --> 02:52:54,709 What's he doing? 4246 02:52:54,812 --> 02:52:56,366 -John Ritter was fantastic. 4247 02:52:56,469 --> 02:52:57,781 David Kirschner brought him and his wife 4248 02:52:57,884 --> 02:52:59,472 by my shop to see the puppet. 4249 02:52:59,576 --> 02:53:01,198 They were very interested in all that stuff. 4250 02:53:01,301 --> 02:53:03,787 -He said, "Give me a good death," which I think we did. 4251 02:53:03,890 --> 02:53:06,306 I think he has one of the best ones. 4252 02:53:06,410 --> 02:53:07,618 -Now! -[Gasps] 4253 02:53:07,722 --> 02:53:09,551 [Electricity crackles] -Aah! 4254 02:53:09,655 --> 02:53:12,105 -The nails coming out of the glove compartment box 4255 02:53:12,209 --> 02:53:13,728 I thought was super creative. 4256 02:53:13,831 --> 02:53:16,455 -I remember when -- when I first read the script, 4257 02:53:16,558 --> 02:53:17,939 I talked to Don. 4258 02:53:18,042 --> 02:53:20,010 I said, "Wow, that reminds me of that movie, 4259 02:53:20,113 --> 02:53:21,114 the pin head thing." 4260 02:53:21,218 --> 02:53:24,842 -We'll tear your soul apart. 4261 02:53:24,946 --> 02:53:27,914 -He let us put rubber nails all in his face. 4262 02:53:28,018 --> 02:53:29,675 It took forever. 4263 02:53:29,778 --> 02:53:33,092 Never complained. Was so, so patient. 4264 02:53:33,195 --> 02:53:34,714 -I remember, he asked me, 4265 02:53:34,818 --> 02:53:36,820 "Why do you want a comedian in a slasher movie?" 4266 02:53:36,923 --> 02:53:39,305 I said, "Well, it's different, it's different. 4267 02:53:39,409 --> 02:53:42,032 It will make it different, and you will bring something 4268 02:53:42,135 --> 02:53:43,378 different, you know? 4269 02:53:43,482 --> 02:53:45,035 So when you die, people laugh." 4270 02:53:45,138 --> 02:53:46,036 [Laughs] 4271 02:53:46,139 --> 02:53:49,695 -[Inhaling] 4272 02:53:49,798 --> 02:53:54,562 -I am not exaggerating. I think I sat in my trailer, 4273 02:53:54,665 --> 02:53:59,429 I swear to God, 18 hours, waiting for that shot. 4274 02:53:59,532 --> 02:54:00,602 -Smoking a joint, yes, it's difficult, 4275 02:54:00,706 --> 02:54:02,017 very time-consuming, 4276 02:54:02,121 --> 02:54:04,399 and scratching your head all the time, you know, 4277 02:54:04,503 --> 02:54:06,677 "How do you make it look right?" 4278 02:54:06,781 --> 02:54:10,612 -It was a huge, huge undertaking for the animatronic team, 4279 02:54:10,716 --> 02:54:12,821 but they got it. It was funny. Funny moment. 4280 02:54:12,925 --> 02:54:15,410 -Norton? 4281 02:54:15,514 --> 02:54:16,791 Are you still there? -[Coughs] 4282 02:54:16,894 --> 02:54:18,793 [Both laugh] 4283 02:54:18,896 --> 02:54:21,451 -When the camera is gonna zoom in on me for the scream 4284 02:54:21,554 --> 02:54:23,694 right before the explosion, I was like, 4285 02:54:23,798 --> 02:54:26,421 "Yeah, it's total Hitchcock, right?" 4286 02:54:26,525 --> 02:54:27,802 -Aah! 4287 02:54:27,905 --> 02:54:29,769 [Explosion] 4288 02:54:29,873 --> 02:54:31,495 -That's it. You know, one shot. 4289 02:54:31,599 --> 02:54:33,911 Then we have maybe six cameras set up to do that. 4290 02:54:34,015 --> 02:54:36,258 -It took all night to get. That was one of the most -- 4291 02:54:36,362 --> 02:54:37,674 probably the most complicated shots. 4292 02:54:37,777 --> 02:54:40,366 -Excuse me. The door was open. 4293 02:54:40,470 --> 02:54:42,161 I didn't realize there was anybody in here. 4294 02:54:42,264 --> 02:54:45,198 -Margot Kidder, my aunt, who I refer to as Margie, 4295 02:54:45,302 --> 02:54:48,236 or Aunt Margie, such an inspiration all the time 4296 02:54:48,339 --> 02:54:50,721 with her horror genre life. 4297 02:54:50,825 --> 02:54:52,378 I would like to be able 4298 02:54:52,482 --> 02:54:53,966 to follow in her footsteps a little bit. 4299 02:54:54,069 --> 02:54:55,726 -[Growling] 4300 02:54:55,830 --> 02:54:58,211 Well... who's this? 4301 02:54:58,315 --> 02:54:59,730 -Well, my agent called me and said, "Sweetie, 4302 02:54:59,834 --> 02:55:01,042 do you want to go in for something 4303 02:55:01,145 --> 02:55:03,389 called "Bride of Chucky"? 4304 02:55:03,493 --> 02:55:07,013 I just laughed and said, "I have to have that on my résumé." 4305 02:55:07,117 --> 02:55:09,602 -James and I met in the audition, and we just clicked. 4306 02:55:09,706 --> 02:55:12,916 -'Cause I felt like I had just instantly made a new pal 4307 02:55:13,019 --> 02:55:15,366 in Janet Kidder. We've been friends ever since. 4308 02:55:15,470 --> 02:55:17,714 -That honeymoon kill scene, I said, 4309 02:55:17,817 --> 02:55:22,201 "What if the mirror comes down, right, like a rainfall? 4310 02:55:22,304 --> 02:55:23,547 And nowhere you can run." 4311 02:55:23,651 --> 02:55:28,621 -[Screaming] 4312 02:55:28,725 --> 02:55:30,623 -It was, I think, even more impressive 4313 02:55:30,727 --> 02:55:32,452 than I had imagined in my head. 4314 02:55:32,556 --> 02:55:33,764 -It was also important to us 4315 02:55:33,868 --> 02:55:36,387 that it be beautiful in a weird way, 4316 02:55:36,491 --> 02:55:39,149 you know, that it just visually cool and interesting. 4317 02:55:39,252 --> 02:55:42,497 -Possibly one of my best death scenes, and I've had a few. 4318 02:55:42,601 --> 02:55:43,809 -That was a great murder. 4319 02:55:43,912 --> 02:55:45,983 And it was fireworks, you know? 4320 02:55:46,087 --> 02:55:47,744 -The hours and hours that Janet and I 4321 02:55:47,847 --> 02:55:49,400 had to spend in makeup, 4322 02:55:49,504 --> 02:55:51,679 getting all those shards of mirror 4323 02:55:51,782 --> 02:55:53,577 put all over our arms and legs. 4324 02:55:53,681 --> 02:55:57,754 -I had to lie on a makeup table for 5 or 6 hours, 4325 02:55:57,857 --> 02:56:00,066 and then I couldn't go to the bathroom without help 4326 02:56:00,170 --> 02:56:01,827 because I had all these -- you know, 4327 02:56:01,930 --> 02:56:05,175 these huge, uh, plastic shards all over my body. 4328 02:56:05,278 --> 02:56:06,625 So that was quite a process. 4329 02:56:06,728 --> 02:56:08,488 -I just think of the romance of it 4330 02:56:08,592 --> 02:56:10,732 and, you know, the beautiful cinematography 4331 02:56:10,836 --> 02:56:13,321 and the lilting rhythm that 4332 02:56:13,424 --> 02:56:15,461 Tiffany and Chucky have together. 4333 02:56:15,565 --> 02:56:19,741 -He's just, like, beside himself with awe of 4334 02:56:19,845 --> 02:56:22,917 how beautifully she orchestrated that. 4335 02:56:23,020 --> 02:56:24,159 -I love you. 4336 02:56:24,263 --> 02:56:25,644 -Which is all about romance. 4337 02:56:25,747 --> 02:56:27,784 That's all about new romance. 4338 02:56:27,887 --> 02:56:30,476 -That was so gratifying when I read in the script 4339 02:56:30,580 --> 02:56:33,617 that Chucky and Tiffany were gonna do it, 4340 02:56:33,721 --> 02:56:36,275 because they're two dolls doing it. 4341 02:56:36,378 --> 02:56:37,897 It's just so out there. 4342 02:56:38,001 --> 02:56:40,348 -I think that some of my energy maybe wore off on them. 4343 02:56:40,451 --> 02:56:43,662 -You know, he wanted the ring to go onto her ring finger, 4344 02:56:43,765 --> 02:56:45,387 and we just couldn't get it on. It wasn't staying. 4345 02:56:45,491 --> 02:56:47,113 It was spinning, falling off. We're shooting and shooting 4346 02:56:47,217 --> 02:56:50,047 and said, "You know, it'll fit the thumb." 4347 02:56:50,151 --> 02:56:54,051 -Part of the fun was to utilize the clichés 4348 02:56:54,155 --> 02:56:56,951 of the Hollywood romantic-comedy sex scene. 4349 02:56:57,054 --> 02:56:58,746 -We talked a lot about making naked puppets, 4350 02:56:58,849 --> 02:57:01,093 and it's super hard to get everything built 4351 02:57:01,196 --> 02:57:04,268 the way you want and hide it all within the skin. 4352 02:57:04,372 --> 02:57:05,994 -The camera dips down, 4353 02:57:06,098 --> 02:57:10,585 and we see just a hint of buttcrack in Tiffany. 4354 02:57:10,689 --> 02:57:12,380 -Chucky is French kissing me, 4355 02:57:12,483 --> 02:57:14,485 and it was so funny because his tongue goes out like this 4356 02:57:14,589 --> 02:57:17,247 and starts rotating around in my mouth. 4357 02:57:17,350 --> 02:57:21,285 So when I was doing the looping, I made a sound like, "Ahh!" 4358 02:57:21,389 --> 02:57:22,597 like a gargling sound. 4359 02:57:22,701 --> 02:57:23,978 -Ahh! 4360 02:57:24,081 --> 02:57:27,050 -My wife loves that scene. 4361 02:57:27,153 --> 02:57:30,018 I mean, she howls with laughter at that scene. 4362 02:57:30,122 --> 02:57:33,125 -When we were doing the doll sex scene, we were ad-libbing. 4363 02:57:33,228 --> 02:57:36,680 I came up with this idea where I go -- he's about to enter me, 4364 02:57:36,784 --> 02:57:38,855 and she hasn't been a doll for very long. 4365 02:57:38,958 --> 02:57:42,203 And I go, "Wait, Chucky, do you have a rubber?" 4366 02:57:42,306 --> 02:57:43,411 -Tiff! -What? 4367 02:57:43,514 --> 02:57:44,412 -Look at me! 4368 02:57:44,515 --> 02:57:45,516 -"I'm all rubber." 4369 02:57:45,620 --> 02:57:46,897 -"I thought you were plastic." 4370 02:57:47,001 --> 02:57:48,727 That was them. They improvised that. 4371 02:57:48,830 --> 02:57:50,280 -When we previewed that, 4372 02:57:50,383 --> 02:57:54,664 the audience was laughing so hard and so loud 4373 02:57:54,767 --> 02:57:57,045 that you couldn't even hear the next lines. 4374 02:57:57,149 --> 02:57:59,634 -It's just so out there. It's so funny. 4375 02:57:59,738 --> 02:58:00,911 -This is a first. 4376 02:58:01,015 --> 02:58:02,326 -I just thought it was wonderful. 4377 02:58:02,430 --> 02:58:04,639 -So two puppets having sex 4378 02:58:04,743 --> 02:58:07,815 means 14 puppeteers pretending to have sex. 4379 02:58:07,918 --> 02:58:11,404 So, uh, I don't know, vinyl orgy -- what is that like? 4380 02:58:11,508 --> 02:58:12,958 -How are we gonna have them -- 4381 02:58:13,061 --> 02:58:15,650 For one, you know, they're skin to about here, 4382 02:58:15,754 --> 02:58:17,410 and then they turn into mechanical parts. 4383 02:58:17,514 --> 02:58:18,826 -So I'm gonna just use shadow 4384 02:58:18,929 --> 02:58:20,931 because they have a fireplace going, 4385 02:58:21,035 --> 02:58:24,176 and who wants to see two dolls having sex? 4386 02:58:24,279 --> 02:58:25,660 -It was hilarious. 4387 02:58:25,764 --> 02:58:27,386 And that was almost a problem shooting, 4388 02:58:27,489 --> 02:58:28,594 we were all laughing so hard. 4389 02:58:28,698 --> 02:58:30,734 -Oh, you're using shadow! 4390 02:58:30,838 --> 02:58:32,943 You're not actually seeing it! [Laughs] 4391 02:58:33,047 --> 02:58:34,600 I said, "Of course! You think I'm crazy?" 4392 02:58:34,704 --> 02:58:36,050 [Laughs] 4393 02:58:36,153 --> 02:58:38,086 -And I've concluded that what we have here 4394 02:58:38,190 --> 02:58:41,020 is a terrible misunderstanding. 4395 02:58:41,124 --> 02:58:43,540 -Then I got to have this arc where I get to then 4396 02:58:43,643 --> 02:58:45,784 start to suspect them, as well. 4397 02:58:45,887 --> 02:58:49,373 -And then the Mack truck comes out of nowhere, and... 4398 02:58:49,477 --> 02:58:51,617 [Truck horn blares] 4399 02:58:51,721 --> 02:58:54,585 -I don't know what they used, but, man, whatever it was, 4400 02:58:54,689 --> 02:58:58,037 it exploded in a million pieces. 4401 02:58:58,141 --> 02:59:01,869 -His death was so shocking even to us. 4402 02:59:01,972 --> 02:59:03,180 -People have mentioned it to me 4403 02:59:03,284 --> 02:59:04,941 sometimes over the years about, like, 4404 02:59:05,044 --> 02:59:06,252 "Did you ever have any misgivings 4405 02:59:06,356 --> 02:59:08,289 about killing the gay character?" 4406 02:59:08,392 --> 02:59:11,430 My feeling was, cute, straight teenagers 4407 02:59:11,533 --> 02:59:13,018 have been getting slaughtered 4408 02:59:13,121 --> 02:59:16,159 in slasher movies for years now. 4409 02:59:16,262 --> 02:59:19,576 Why can't that happen to a cute gay boy?" 4410 02:59:19,679 --> 02:59:20,957 -Chucky doesn't even kill me. 4411 02:59:21,060 --> 02:59:22,268 Chucky inadvertently kills me. 4412 02:59:22,372 --> 02:59:24,201 [Tires screeching] -That works, too. 4413 02:59:24,305 --> 02:59:27,791 -And that was a relatively early use of CGI 4414 02:59:27,895 --> 02:59:29,897 that, you know, the body exploding. 4415 02:59:30,000 --> 02:59:32,831 I mean, there was some practical stuff, 4416 02:59:32,934 --> 02:59:35,316 but we augmented it with CGI. 4417 02:59:35,419 --> 02:59:36,973 -Tiff? -Mm-hmm? 4418 02:59:37,076 --> 02:59:40,183 -Those, uh, dishes aren't gonna wash themselves, you know. 4419 02:59:40,286 --> 02:59:42,772 -Because horror is now self-referential, 4420 02:59:42,875 --> 02:59:45,084 that's a perfect thing to have happen. 4421 02:59:45,188 --> 02:59:48,916 Horror becomes about, you know, domestic chores. 4422 02:59:49,019 --> 02:59:51,642 -When Tiffany is screaming about Martha Stewart 4423 02:59:51,746 --> 02:59:53,679 and throwing plates of cookies, 4424 02:59:53,783 --> 02:59:55,405 Martha Stewart's life is so perfect 4425 02:59:55,508 --> 02:59:58,788 and so clean and no problems and no bodies lying around, 4426 02:59:58,891 --> 03:00:02,101 and no husband that comes home and insults her 4427 03:00:02,205 --> 03:00:04,794 and, you know, tries to kill her and everything. 4428 03:00:04,897 --> 03:00:06,796 -Chucky gets confronted with that. 4429 03:00:06,899 --> 03:00:08,832 -It was "The Honeymooners" on steroids. 4430 03:00:08,936 --> 03:00:10,385 -Bang, zoom! 4431 03:00:10,489 --> 03:00:13,078 -I see the love story in "Bride of Chucky," 4432 03:00:13,181 --> 03:00:14,942 and I think that that's what anchors it, 4433 03:00:15,045 --> 03:00:17,703 and it's that sort of weirdly doomed love story 4434 03:00:17,807 --> 03:00:19,739 between Chucky and Tiffany. 4435 03:00:19,843 --> 03:00:21,120 -[Bangs] -[Screams] 4436 03:00:21,224 --> 03:00:23,053 -When Tiffany gets burned in the oven, 4437 03:00:23,157 --> 03:00:25,366 that was an homage to "Trilogy of Terror," 4438 03:00:25,469 --> 03:00:26,988 because we talked about that a lot. 4439 03:00:27,092 --> 03:00:28,403 Don was a big fan of that. 4440 03:00:28,507 --> 03:00:29,922 Everyone's always asking, "How do we -- 4441 03:00:30,026 --> 03:00:31,372 How can we do it differently? 4442 03:00:31,475 --> 03:00:33,305 What can we do that we haven't done before?" 4443 03:00:33,408 --> 03:00:36,998 -Why can't I ever get it on with the real good guys? 4444 03:00:37,102 --> 03:00:39,138 -The graveyard scene and the final love thing 4445 03:00:39,242 --> 03:00:41,244 between them was my favorite moment of the film. 4446 03:00:41,347 --> 03:00:43,591 -The graveyard scene was supposed to happen 4447 03:00:43,694 --> 03:00:45,075 in a real graveyard. 4448 03:00:45,179 --> 03:00:46,732 -I go to the location. 4449 03:00:46,836 --> 03:00:49,321 Ronny and Peter look at each other, 4450 03:00:49,424 --> 03:00:53,118 and they walk away from the group a little bit, 4451 03:00:53,221 --> 03:00:55,120 and they start talking to each other, 4452 03:00:55,223 --> 03:00:59,227 and then Ronny comes back, and he says, 4453 03:00:59,331 --> 03:01:01,678 "But there are ancestors here." 4454 03:01:01,781 --> 03:01:02,990 -And I remember Universal Pictures 4455 03:01:03,093 --> 03:01:05,924 scrambling to change the location 4456 03:01:06,027 --> 03:01:07,960 and actually create a graveyard. 4457 03:01:08,064 --> 03:01:11,170 -We built in the studio 4458 03:01:11,274 --> 03:01:14,933 all the stuff around where the grave is. 4459 03:01:15,036 --> 03:01:17,211 -If you look at it on camera, it looks fantastic. 4460 03:01:17,314 --> 03:01:21,077 But, I mean, it's all styrofoam and fans and fake dirt 4461 03:01:21,180 --> 03:01:22,561 and smelled like mildew. 4462 03:01:22,664 --> 03:01:24,597 -It was Ronny's idea to put the plastic -- 4463 03:01:24,701 --> 03:01:27,531 There was like all these, like, plastic around, 4464 03:01:27,635 --> 03:01:29,395 like, blowing in the wind. 4465 03:01:29,499 --> 03:01:31,018 -All these black rags -- 4466 03:01:31,121 --> 03:01:33,779 this is very Hong Kong film -- hanging from the trees. 4467 03:01:33,883 --> 03:01:37,300 Everything's blowing in the trees and they're in silhouette. 4468 03:01:37,403 --> 03:01:40,061 -It needed to be epic in a kind of -- 4469 03:01:40,165 --> 03:01:41,994 in a stylized way. 4470 03:01:42,098 --> 03:01:45,791 It feels like Technicolor Hollywood. 4471 03:01:45,895 --> 03:01:46,965 -I love you, Chucky. 4472 03:01:47,068 --> 03:01:48,967 -I'm always amazed 4473 03:01:49,070 --> 03:01:50,796 at Jennifer's line readings. 4474 03:01:50,900 --> 03:01:52,694 I love that she makes the word "Chucky" 4475 03:01:52,798 --> 03:01:54,834 a seven-syllable word. 4476 03:01:54,938 --> 03:01:56,698 "Chuck-y-y-y-y." 4477 03:01:56,802 --> 03:01:58,183 -I'll see you in hell. 4478 03:01:58,286 --> 03:01:59,425 -I think she was probably supposed to say, 4479 03:01:59,529 --> 03:02:01,324 "I'll see you in hell!" you know? 4480 03:02:01,427 --> 03:02:03,982 But, uh, I didn't deliver it that way. 4481 03:02:04,085 --> 03:02:06,467 -That's part of Jennifer's brilliance 4482 03:02:06,570 --> 03:02:08,710 is unexpected readings. 4483 03:02:08,814 --> 03:02:10,678 I suspect occasionally 4484 03:02:10,781 --> 03:02:14,026 it might have something to do with not knowing her lines. 4485 03:02:14,130 --> 03:02:15,441 -I just got really sad. 4486 03:02:15,545 --> 03:02:17,823 Tiffany didn't want to kill Chucky... 4487 03:02:17,927 --> 03:02:19,342 -Aaah! 4488 03:02:19,445 --> 03:02:21,931 -...but she felt like they did belong dead. 4489 03:02:22,034 --> 03:02:24,347 And the awfulness had to end. 4490 03:02:24,450 --> 03:02:27,971 -I think, in the end, when she decides to kill Chucky 4491 03:02:28,075 --> 03:02:31,457 and the whole movie suddenly comes together, 4492 03:02:31,561 --> 03:02:35,185 that everything that has been put into it has a real meaning. 4493 03:02:35,289 --> 03:02:37,947 I think that's my favorite, but I'm a sap. 4494 03:02:38,050 --> 03:02:40,742 [Both grunting] 4495 03:02:40,846 --> 03:02:42,296 -Aah! Aah! 4496 03:02:42,399 --> 03:02:43,953 -When Chucky and Tiffany are fighting 4497 03:02:44,056 --> 03:02:45,644 in the cemetery, those are actors. 4498 03:02:45,747 --> 03:02:46,783 They step in in the costumes. 4499 03:02:46,886 --> 03:02:48,819 Like any other fight scene, 4500 03:02:48,923 --> 03:02:50,442 it's choreographed to the beat. 4501 03:02:50,545 --> 03:02:52,685 -They can hit each other with shovels and fly through -- 4502 03:02:52,789 --> 03:02:54,377 you know, jump on each other. 4503 03:02:54,480 --> 03:02:56,862 If you compress it all by being on top -- 4504 03:02:56,966 --> 03:02:58,381 and I pitched that to Ronny, 4505 03:02:58,484 --> 03:02:59,899 he was like, "Great idea," and went with it. 4506 03:03:00,003 --> 03:03:02,074 -We try every trick in the book. 4507 03:03:02,178 --> 03:03:04,939 Sometimes, I'll shoot 22 frames per second 4508 03:03:05,043 --> 03:03:08,080 rather than the normal 24 frames per second, 4509 03:03:08,184 --> 03:03:10,255 so when we project it later on, 4510 03:03:10,358 --> 03:03:12,257 it would become a little bit faster. 4511 03:03:12,360 --> 03:03:14,121 -I remember I went in to do looping, and they said, 4512 03:03:14,224 --> 03:03:16,054 "Oh, can you make some effort noises?" 4513 03:03:16,157 --> 03:03:18,573 I was like -- Tiffany's, [Quietly] "Ow. Ow." 4514 03:03:18,677 --> 03:03:20,403 [Panting] "Unh! Ow! Ow!" 4515 03:03:20,506 --> 03:03:21,749 -[Laughs] 4516 03:03:21,852 --> 03:03:23,371 -[Screaming] 4517 03:03:23,475 --> 03:03:24,959 -[Screeching] 4518 03:03:25,063 --> 03:03:26,996 -We did end up reshooting the ending. 4519 03:03:27,099 --> 03:03:29,999 And so the actual birth of what would become 4520 03:03:30,102 --> 03:03:33,209 "Seed of Chucky," that was reshot. 4521 03:03:33,312 --> 03:03:35,625 And that was to give it, like, a big, punchier ending. 4522 03:03:35,728 --> 03:03:37,282 -We did an edit of the movie 4523 03:03:37,385 --> 03:03:39,456 and then decided we were going to do some extra things. 4524 03:03:39,560 --> 03:03:44,530 And one of those was the birth of the Seed of Chucky 4525 03:03:44,634 --> 03:03:45,876 at the end of the movie. 4526 03:03:45,980 --> 03:03:49,087 -What John created there was the idea of, 4527 03:03:49,190 --> 03:03:51,020 "We're keeping this thing alive." 4528 03:03:51,123 --> 03:03:53,884 -I got to direct that whole last scene. 4529 03:03:53,988 --> 03:03:56,266 Working with Lawrence Dane was awesome 4530 03:03:56,370 --> 03:04:00,063 because I was such a fan of his, because he was a horror icon. 4531 03:04:00,167 --> 03:04:01,720 -[Screaming] 4532 03:04:01,823 --> 03:04:03,170 -Well, first of all, 4533 03:04:03,273 --> 03:04:04,757 we couldn't show the vagina, obviously, 4534 03:04:04,861 --> 03:04:06,587 because it was, "What are we gonna do with that? 4535 03:04:06,690 --> 03:04:08,140 Is she, you know, anatomically correct?" 4536 03:04:08,244 --> 03:04:09,762 [Laughs] "What's going on?" 4537 03:04:09,866 --> 03:04:11,247 -That's a lesson for the kiddies. 4538 03:04:11,350 --> 03:04:14,181 Unprotected sex leads to unplanned pregnancy. 4539 03:04:14,284 --> 03:04:15,906 'Cause Chucky's just like every man. 4540 03:04:16,010 --> 03:04:17,391 He just tells her what she wants to know. 4541 03:04:17,494 --> 03:04:20,221 -And then suddenly, this almost full-sized baby... 4542 03:04:20,325 --> 03:04:21,774 -...comes exploding out of her loins 4543 03:04:21,878 --> 03:04:25,088 at the end of the movie in a very terrifying way. 4544 03:04:25,192 --> 03:04:26,710 -And I don't know how that happened, but we did it. 4545 03:04:26,814 --> 03:04:31,715 -Huge choice to have a child on camera. Very ballsy. 4546 03:04:31,819 --> 03:04:33,027 -This franchise just keeps 4547 03:04:33,131 --> 03:04:35,547 pushing down the doors for puppet-kind. 4548 03:04:35,650 --> 03:04:38,757 -When the baby comes shooting out of Tiffany's loins 4549 03:04:38,860 --> 03:04:43,002 and is screaming, Don said they used the voice of a baby pig. 4550 03:04:43,106 --> 03:04:44,521 ♪ La la la 4551 03:04:44,625 --> 03:04:47,490 -As soon as you see that demon baby thing 4552 03:04:47,593 --> 03:04:49,423 coming out of Tiffany, you know, "Okay." 4553 03:04:49,526 --> 03:04:50,872 -♪ Dum, dum dum, dum 4554 03:04:50,976 --> 03:04:52,909 ♪ New movie 4555 03:04:53,012 --> 03:04:54,255 -Once the film wrapped, 4556 03:04:54,359 --> 03:04:56,292 the crew ventured into post-production, 4557 03:04:56,395 --> 03:04:59,088 where the relationship between Chucky, Tiffany, 4558 03:04:59,191 --> 03:05:01,124 and how it would all come together 4559 03:05:01,228 --> 03:05:04,610 wasn't exactly the honeymoon anyone had planned. 4560 03:05:04,714 --> 03:05:06,750 -Ronny and David Wu -- 4561 03:05:06,854 --> 03:05:09,546 you know, David had been his Hong Kong editor. 4562 03:05:09,650 --> 03:05:13,585 Probably had two days or something to deliver their cut. 4563 03:05:13,688 --> 03:05:16,415 -It just wasn't cut the way Don and I specifically wanted. 4564 03:05:16,519 --> 03:05:19,142 -He and Don were looking for somebody to come in 4565 03:05:19,246 --> 03:05:22,249 and kind of help out on "Bride of Chucky" 4566 03:05:22,352 --> 03:05:24,458 and kind of focus it a little more. 4567 03:05:24,561 --> 03:05:27,392 -We had the good fortune to work with Randy Bricker, 4568 03:05:27,495 --> 03:05:31,258 who came in to do another pass at the film 4569 03:05:31,361 --> 03:05:33,812 and really just made it a lot, um, punchier. 4570 03:05:33,915 --> 03:05:37,091 -Universal wasn't quite as enthusiastic about that. 4571 03:05:37,195 --> 03:05:40,336 -Marc Platt was out and Stacey Snyder was in, 4572 03:05:40,439 --> 03:05:44,892 and Stacey was not a fan of the project particularly. 4573 03:05:44,995 --> 03:05:48,620 -I remember at our first screening of "Bride of Chucky," 4574 03:05:48,723 --> 03:05:50,035 that was not great, 4575 03:05:50,139 --> 03:05:52,727 Stacey Snider, who is a superb executive 4576 03:05:52,831 --> 03:05:55,765 and really bright woman, came up to Don, 4577 03:05:55,868 --> 03:05:59,976 very unfairly, and said, "What were you thinking?" 4578 03:06:00,079 --> 03:06:02,358 -Stacey Snider just fundamentally 4579 03:06:02,461 --> 03:06:03,738 didn't like the movie. 4580 03:06:03,842 --> 03:06:05,982 -By the way, Stacey, you read the script 4581 03:06:06,085 --> 03:06:07,673 and gave it a greenlight, 4582 03:06:07,777 --> 03:06:10,435 but I think she wanted Academy Awards, and who doesn't? 4583 03:06:10,538 --> 03:06:12,540 That's not what Chucky was. 4584 03:06:12,644 --> 03:06:14,853 -Our next test screening was crazy, and everybody loved it. 4585 03:06:14,956 --> 03:06:18,615 -Sitting with the audience and seeing their reaction, 4586 03:06:18,719 --> 03:06:20,893 they're enthusiastic, for me, that is -- 4587 03:06:20,997 --> 03:06:22,792 that is the best. That is the best. 4588 03:06:22,895 --> 03:06:26,071 -"Bride of Chucky" officially tied the knot with audiences 4589 03:06:26,175 --> 03:06:28,522 on October 16, 1998. 4590 03:06:28,625 --> 03:06:31,904 While critics seemed harder to please, fans were smitten. 4591 03:06:32,008 --> 03:06:34,390 Cast and crew believed in their job well done, 4592 03:06:34,493 --> 03:06:38,290 and few could argue that Chucky found not only his soul mate 4593 03:06:38,394 --> 03:06:40,119 but a true reinvention. 4594 03:06:40,223 --> 03:06:43,295 -The film comes out and does great business. 4595 03:06:43,399 --> 03:06:44,607 -There was huge audience reaction, 4596 03:06:44,710 --> 03:06:45,884 so I knew it was going to be good. 4597 03:06:45,987 --> 03:06:47,230 -Mission accomplished! 4598 03:06:47,334 --> 03:06:49,301 -Oprah famously said it sent her 4599 03:06:49,405 --> 03:06:50,785 into a downward spiral. 4600 03:06:50,889 --> 03:06:52,477 She made "Beloved," and she thought it was 4601 03:06:52,580 --> 03:06:54,962 going to be number one, and then they're like, 4602 03:06:55,065 --> 03:06:56,481 "You were beat by Chucky." 4603 03:06:56,584 --> 03:06:58,379 -And I remember, Saturday morning, 4604 03:06:58,483 --> 03:07:00,726 hearing that we got beat by something called Chucky. 4605 03:07:00,830 --> 03:07:02,452 -She's like, "Chucky? Who's Chucky?" 4606 03:07:02,556 --> 03:07:04,316 She didn't even know who Chucky was. 4607 03:07:04,420 --> 03:07:06,007 -"Bride" made like $50 million. 4608 03:07:06,111 --> 03:07:09,148 And, you know, on a budget of like 20-something million. 4609 03:07:09,252 --> 03:07:10,460 -And it was really successful. 4610 03:07:10,564 --> 03:07:11,944 -Critics missed the boat a little bit 4611 03:07:12,048 --> 03:07:13,601 on "Bride of Chucky." You can look at reviews 4612 03:07:13,705 --> 03:07:17,226 from practically every now-classic horror film, 4613 03:07:17,329 --> 03:07:19,193 and virtually none of them 4614 03:07:19,297 --> 03:07:20,953 were universally beloved in their day. 4615 03:07:21,057 --> 03:07:23,473 I mean, audiences really liked "Bride of Chucky." 4616 03:07:23,577 --> 03:07:25,441 It reversed the trend that had been going on 4617 03:07:25,544 --> 03:07:27,236 with the previous three at the box office. 4618 03:07:27,339 --> 03:07:29,238 -By the late '90s, you're seeing more and more 4619 03:07:29,341 --> 03:07:33,414 where film critics from major outlets are talking about genre 4620 03:07:33,518 --> 03:07:36,417 in a way that isn't condescending or dismissive, 4621 03:07:36,521 --> 03:07:38,281 that sort of understands there can be 4622 03:07:38,385 --> 03:07:40,939 different levels of self-awareness, of humor. 4623 03:07:41,042 --> 03:07:45,254 -Chucky was wildly successful before "Bride of Chucky," 4624 03:07:45,357 --> 03:07:47,463 but "Bride of Chucky" did come at a time 4625 03:07:47,566 --> 03:07:51,432 where it was this kind of new-age resurgence of horror -- 4626 03:07:51,536 --> 03:07:53,089 "Scream," "I Know What You Did Last Summer." 4627 03:07:53,192 --> 03:07:56,437 -I didn't realize that this film was taking the franchise 4628 03:07:56,541 --> 03:07:58,922 in a different direction because I hadn't seen 4629 03:07:59,026 --> 03:08:00,372 any of the other three movies, 4630 03:08:00,476 --> 03:08:02,271 So I always refer to "Bride of Chucky" 4631 03:08:02,374 --> 03:08:03,893 as the first one. 4632 03:08:03,996 --> 03:08:07,621 As a gay guy, one of the things that I loved 4633 03:08:07,724 --> 03:08:10,209 that Jennifer and the character of Tiffany 4634 03:08:10,313 --> 03:08:12,419 brought to the franchise was glamour. 4635 03:08:12,522 --> 03:08:14,386 -It's the "Showgirls" of the franchise. 4636 03:08:14,490 --> 03:08:17,009 It's excess, it's strobe lights. 4637 03:08:17,113 --> 03:08:20,599 it's wind, it's flying, it's -- it's camp, it's goth. 4638 03:08:20,703 --> 03:08:22,981 I mean, it's Jennifer Tilly. 4639 03:08:23,084 --> 03:08:24,638 It is perfection. 4640 03:08:24,741 --> 03:08:27,882 -The presence of that movie went on for a long time. 4641 03:08:27,986 --> 03:08:30,678 -One of the proudest achievements I have is -- 4642 03:08:30,782 --> 03:08:32,956 is working on the Chucky franchise. 4643 03:08:33,060 --> 03:08:36,132 And, you know, "Bride" is probably the favorite movie 4644 03:08:36,235 --> 03:08:37,685 that I've ever worked on. 4645 03:08:37,789 --> 03:08:39,653 -Don was such a generous person to me. 4646 03:08:39,756 --> 03:08:41,517 It was his idea that our credits would be staggered, 4647 03:08:41,620 --> 03:08:42,863 like "Laverne & Shirley." 4648 03:08:42,966 --> 03:08:44,451 "Bride of Chucky" made me a producer. 4649 03:08:44,554 --> 03:08:46,073 I owe a big thanks to David Kirschner 4650 03:08:46,176 --> 03:08:48,524 because I got an opportunity that changed my life. 4651 03:08:48,627 --> 03:08:51,527 -I think "Bride of Chucky" comes in as the proudest moment, 4652 03:08:51,630 --> 03:08:53,701 just being able to do two characters at once. 4653 03:08:53,805 --> 03:08:55,151 I mean, I've never had that challenge before. 4654 03:08:55,254 --> 03:08:56,946 -Even now, to this day, people say, 4655 03:08:57,049 --> 03:08:59,258 "Oh, my God, you worked with the 'Bride of Chucky'?" 4656 03:08:59,362 --> 03:09:01,571 I'm like, "Yeah, I got killed by the Bride of Chucky, man." 4657 03:09:01,675 --> 03:09:05,610 -Making the "Bride of Chucky," for me, was pretty exhilarating, 4658 03:09:05,713 --> 03:09:08,026 and to have such a memorable, fun role in it, 4659 03:09:08,129 --> 03:09:10,373 even if it is just, like, the standout death. 4660 03:09:10,477 --> 03:09:12,410 Chucky and I spent time together, 4661 03:09:12,513 --> 03:09:13,894 so that's what I'm left with. 4662 03:09:13,997 --> 03:09:17,207 -Thank you to David Kirschner and Don Mancini 4663 03:09:17,311 --> 03:09:21,384 for making me feel like an immediate member of the team 4664 03:09:21,488 --> 03:09:23,386 from the second I walked into the audition. 4665 03:09:23,490 --> 03:09:25,181 -I am really proud to have been part 4666 03:09:25,284 --> 03:09:26,872 of the "Bride of Chucky." 4667 03:09:26,976 --> 03:09:30,186 It is probably one of the biggest highlights of my career. 4668 03:09:30,289 --> 03:09:31,670 It was just such a great experience. 4669 03:09:31,774 --> 03:09:35,122 It's what moviemaking is supposed to be. 4670 03:09:35,225 --> 03:09:37,676 -I'm just honored to have had the opportunity 4671 03:09:37,780 --> 03:09:39,782 and the good fortune and, quite frankly, 4672 03:09:39,885 --> 03:09:43,337 the luck of being cast and having an opportunity 4673 03:09:43,441 --> 03:09:45,857 to be a part of it. I'm forever grateful. 4674 03:09:45,960 --> 03:09:49,861 -It's a fabulous ride, and I'm super happy to be famous 4675 03:09:49,964 --> 03:09:52,691 for being a homicidal doll. Who would've thought? 4676 03:09:52,795 --> 03:09:55,522 -I can't tell you how much I love that movie. 4677 03:09:55,625 --> 03:09:59,215 And it's so rare for me to like anything I'm in. 4678 03:09:59,318 --> 03:10:01,700 -"Bride of Chucky" is probably 4679 03:10:01,804 --> 03:10:04,669 my favorite production experience 4680 03:10:04,772 --> 03:10:06,533 that I've ever had in my life. 4681 03:10:06,636 --> 03:10:07,948 It represented, ultimately, 4682 03:10:08,051 --> 03:10:10,847 a successful reinvention of the franchise, 4683 03:10:10,951 --> 03:10:13,988 which was a bit of a gamble, and it worked, and it paid off, 4684 03:10:14,092 --> 03:10:16,715 so that was very satisfying. 4685 03:10:16,819 --> 03:10:20,270 Working with Ronny Yu and Peter Pau was amazing. 4686 03:10:20,374 --> 03:10:22,928 To work with filmmakers of that class, 4687 03:10:23,032 --> 03:10:26,932 that kind of world-class stature was really thrilling. 4688 03:10:27,036 --> 03:10:29,141 -Don's script, Ronny's direction, 4689 03:10:29,245 --> 03:10:32,386 Peter Pau, Jennifer, Alexis. 4690 03:10:32,490 --> 03:10:34,319 For our world, it was visionary 4691 03:10:34,423 --> 03:10:36,701 and taking it to another whole planet, 4692 03:10:36,804 --> 03:10:39,704 another whole universe of this franchise 4693 03:10:39,807 --> 03:10:42,603 and really set the course for this relationship 4694 03:10:42,707 --> 03:10:44,605 between Tiffany and Chucky. 4695 03:10:44,709 --> 03:10:46,987 -How I felt, like, after all these years 4696 03:10:47,090 --> 03:10:49,921 about "Bride of Chucky," I felt I'm so blessed. 4697 03:10:50,024 --> 03:10:53,372 I believe in my own vision, and I trust my own instinct. 4698 03:10:53,476 --> 03:10:55,444 I think it's great, that payoff. 4699 03:10:55,547 --> 03:10:57,066 I'm not saying it's an easy job. No. 4700 03:10:57,169 --> 03:11:00,759 Absolutely very, very challenging, very difficult. 4701 03:11:00,863 --> 03:11:04,625 But at the end of the day, I had a lot of fun making it. 4702 03:11:04,729 --> 03:11:08,422 And the audience think that it's fun watching it. 4703 03:11:08,526 --> 03:11:16,534 ♪♪ 4704 03:11:16,637 --> 03:11:18,674 [Thunder crashes] 4705 03:11:18,777 --> 03:11:21,884 ♪♪ 4706 03:11:21,987 --> 03:11:24,990 -After "Bride of Chucky" successfully reinvented 4707 03:11:25,094 --> 03:11:28,615 and reinvigorated the killer-doll franchise, 4708 03:11:28,718 --> 03:11:30,893 a sequel was not only in order 4709 03:11:30,996 --> 03:11:35,345 but put on the fast track in the fall of 1998. 4710 03:11:35,449 --> 03:11:37,762 -"Bride of Chucky" was very successful, 4711 03:11:37,865 --> 03:11:40,247 so Universal actually put "Seed of Chucky" 4712 03:11:40,350 --> 03:11:43,906 into development immediately, and I wanted to experiment. 4713 03:11:44,009 --> 03:11:48,738 Whereas "Bride of Chucky" was a riff on romantic comedies, 4714 03:11:48,842 --> 03:11:50,809 I wanted "Seed of Chucky" to be a riff 4715 03:11:50,913 --> 03:11:54,986 on family melodramas, like "Ordinary People." 4716 03:11:55,089 --> 03:11:57,851 -"Ordinary People," I think, is -- [Laughs] 4717 03:11:57,954 --> 03:11:59,473 Yeah, maybe "The Godfather." 4718 03:11:59,577 --> 03:12:00,819 -I think I remember Don and I 4719 03:12:00,923 --> 03:12:02,476 talking about "Kramer vs. Kramer." 4720 03:12:02,580 --> 03:12:04,547 I mean, the references are wide and varied, 4721 03:12:04,651 --> 03:12:07,481 -But, also, there's this whole John Waters strain 4722 03:12:07,585 --> 03:12:09,552 that I wanted to put in the movie. 4723 03:12:09,656 --> 03:12:11,658 -We were all very aware that it was a real swing. 4724 03:12:11,761 --> 03:12:13,176 You know, the fact that Universal was doing it, 4725 03:12:13,280 --> 03:12:14,730 my hat's off to them. 4726 03:12:14,833 --> 03:12:17,698 -Being a gay man in Los Angeles, I had trans friends. 4727 03:12:17,802 --> 03:12:20,598 I saw it as an opportunity to do something new 4728 03:12:20,701 --> 03:12:22,358 in this kind of movie. 4729 03:12:22,461 --> 03:12:26,500 -It was very important to explore Don's vision on that. 4730 03:12:26,604 --> 03:12:27,915 -It was ahead of its time. 4731 03:12:28,019 --> 03:12:29,814 It was trying to do something else. 4732 03:12:29,917 --> 03:12:31,885 -I pitched it, everybody loved the idea. 4733 03:12:31,988 --> 03:12:37,131 I went off and wrote it, and the first response was, 4734 03:12:37,235 --> 03:12:40,859 "It's too gay, and there's too much Jennifer Tilly." 4735 03:12:40,963 --> 03:12:41,964 [Laughs] 4736 03:12:42,067 --> 03:12:43,690 -And when I heard that, I was like, 4737 03:12:43,793 --> 03:12:45,105 "How can there be too much Jennifer Tilly?" 4738 03:12:45,208 --> 03:12:46,451 [Laughs] 4739 03:12:46,555 --> 03:12:48,487 -The other thing that was really happening 4740 03:12:48,591 --> 03:12:49,972 was Columbine. 4741 03:12:50,075 --> 03:12:53,700 There was this reticence at the studio now about 4742 03:12:53,803 --> 03:12:57,566 getting into violent material with kids. 4743 03:12:57,669 --> 03:12:59,602 You know, and a couple of years passed, 4744 03:12:59,706 --> 03:13:02,674 and Ronny Yu was gonna be in town 4745 03:13:02,778 --> 03:13:04,849 for the premiere of "Freddy vs. Jason." 4746 03:13:04,952 --> 03:13:06,713 So I called Jennifer, and I said, like, 4747 03:13:06,816 --> 03:13:08,507 "Okay, you got to go to this with me 4748 03:13:08,611 --> 03:13:12,581 because we have to, like, be on the red carpet and be seen." 4749 03:13:12,684 --> 03:13:15,376 And sure enough, "Freddy vs. Jason" made 4750 03:13:15,480 --> 03:13:18,690 30, $40 million that weekend. 4751 03:13:18,794 --> 03:13:21,900 And literally, on that Monday, we got the call. 4752 03:13:22,004 --> 03:13:24,903 And, you know, we had the script from several years before. 4753 03:13:25,007 --> 03:13:27,009 -I thought the script was hysterical. 4754 03:13:27,112 --> 03:13:28,424 I'd never read anything quite like it. 4755 03:13:28,527 --> 03:13:29,874 I thought it was a -- 4756 03:13:29,977 --> 03:13:31,807 I just thought it was very, very funny. 4757 03:13:31,910 --> 03:13:34,982 -I thought it would be a cool source of comedic conflict 4758 03:13:35,086 --> 03:13:39,159 for Chucky's child to be a pacifist. 4759 03:13:39,262 --> 03:13:40,919 The Glen/Glenda character is informed 4760 03:13:41,023 --> 03:13:43,128 by those family melodramas. 4761 03:13:43,232 --> 03:13:46,787 He even references James Dean at one point. 4762 03:13:46,891 --> 03:13:49,756 -You're tearing me apart! -You're tearing me apart! 4763 03:13:49,859 --> 03:13:53,552 -Trash cinema is a thing that has value, 4764 03:13:53,656 --> 03:13:57,971 so having a character who was a cross-dresser, 4765 03:13:58,074 --> 03:14:00,111 it just made sense to go to 4766 03:14:00,214 --> 03:14:03,045 the ultimate trash classic, "Glen or Glenda," 4767 03:14:03,148 --> 03:14:07,049 as a metaphor for a queer kid's 4768 03:14:07,152 --> 03:14:10,052 tense relationship with his macho dad, 4769 03:14:10,155 --> 03:14:14,504 who expects the kid to follow in his footsteps 4770 03:14:14,608 --> 03:14:17,473 and be a real man and kill people. 4771 03:14:17,576 --> 03:14:19,613 -That's my boy! 4772 03:14:19,717 --> 03:14:21,650 -As far as the direction of the film, 4773 03:14:21,753 --> 03:14:24,653 I had said to Don that, after "Bride of Chucky," 4774 03:14:24,756 --> 03:14:27,000 I was so impressed by his contributions 4775 03:14:27,103 --> 03:14:30,175 as a producer that I felt now he was ready. 4776 03:14:30,279 --> 03:14:31,729 -I had wanted to direct. 4777 03:14:31,832 --> 03:14:33,316 That was always my goal. 4778 03:14:33,420 --> 03:14:36,043 Making that transition, it was incredibly exciting. 4779 03:14:36,147 --> 03:14:38,252 -He had had that goal for a long time, 4780 03:14:38,356 --> 03:14:42,360 so he was ready, and I loved being there with him. 4781 03:14:42,463 --> 03:14:46,916 -It was a delight to see him finally in control. 4782 03:14:47,020 --> 03:14:48,884 It had been his baby all along. 4783 03:14:48,987 --> 03:14:51,921 -He has everything planned out so meticulously 4784 03:14:52,025 --> 03:14:53,820 and such a strong idea 4785 03:14:53,923 --> 03:14:56,374 of what he wants with every little thing. 4786 03:14:56,477 --> 03:14:58,410 -He is without doubt the best-prepared director 4787 03:14:58,514 --> 03:14:59,998 that I've ever worked with. 4788 03:15:00,102 --> 03:15:02,311 He storyboards, and there isn't a frame of a film 4789 03:15:02,414 --> 03:15:06,556 that Don has not thought about in 27 different directions. 4790 03:15:06,660 --> 03:15:11,044 -"Seed of Chucky" so then was taken in by Focus Features. 4791 03:15:11,147 --> 03:15:12,770 -It was a smaller division, 4792 03:15:12,873 --> 03:15:15,013 and there was a great guy there named David Linde. 4793 03:15:15,117 --> 03:15:17,775 -David Linde said, "Let's go, and let's make the movie." 4794 03:15:17,878 --> 03:15:20,709 -We were told that Romania would be the best place. 4795 03:15:20,812 --> 03:15:23,470 -We ended up scouting Romania pretty quickly. 4796 03:15:23,573 --> 03:15:26,956 We were up and running, looking forward to making the movie. 4797 03:15:27,060 --> 03:15:29,718 Kevin Yagher was very much involved, 4798 03:15:29,821 --> 03:15:31,927 but, ultimately, the studio, Focus, 4799 03:15:32,030 --> 03:15:34,136 was not able to make a deal with him. 4800 03:15:34,239 --> 03:15:36,863 -Losing Kevin was terrifying, 4801 03:15:36,966 --> 03:15:39,589 but it was a financial decision with the studio. 4802 03:15:39,693 --> 03:15:42,006 -I started doing design, so I, you know, 4803 03:15:42,109 --> 03:15:43,939 designed the kid and brought back, 4804 03:15:44,042 --> 03:15:45,561 you know, the two other characters 4805 03:15:45,664 --> 03:15:47,252 and began to work on it. 4806 03:15:47,356 --> 03:15:49,323 But just sometimes things fall apart in negotiations. 4807 03:15:49,427 --> 03:15:50,600 -Oh, dear. 4808 03:15:50,704 --> 03:15:51,912 -The studio said, "Well, you know, 4809 03:15:52,016 --> 03:15:53,258 why don't you just move to CGI?" 4810 03:15:53,362 --> 03:15:55,847 And Don said, "The fans will go crazy. 4811 03:15:55,951 --> 03:15:59,437 They do not want that. They want the puppet." 4812 03:15:59,540 --> 03:16:01,542 -So that was a real blow. 4813 03:16:01,646 --> 03:16:06,099 But David Kirschner had a relationship with Tony Gardner, 4814 03:16:06,202 --> 03:16:08,032 also someone who has his own 4815 03:16:08,135 --> 03:16:10,310 amazing bona fides in this world. 4816 03:16:10,413 --> 03:16:12,484 -My relationship with David Kirschner 4817 03:16:12,588 --> 03:16:14,521 started with "Hocus Pocus," 4818 03:16:14,624 --> 03:16:17,662 and I recall getting calls 4819 03:16:17,766 --> 03:16:20,216 from David's office at one point. 4820 03:16:20,320 --> 03:16:22,253 They had a project with a talking baby in it, 4821 03:16:22,356 --> 03:16:24,945 and it was just this gradual sort of thing 4822 03:16:25,049 --> 03:16:27,258 where, all of a sudden, it turned into, 4823 03:16:27,361 --> 03:16:31,193 "Well, we've been having conversations with Universal 4824 03:16:31,296 --> 03:16:35,818 about 'Seed of Chucky' and Kevin Yagher, 4825 03:16:35,922 --> 03:16:37,786 and we don't think it's going to happen." 4826 03:16:37,889 --> 03:16:40,823 -It certainly wasn't greed on my part. 4827 03:16:40,927 --> 03:16:43,205 They wanted me to be able to go over to Romania 4828 03:16:43,308 --> 03:16:45,069 or whatever, wherever they shot it, 4829 03:16:45,172 --> 03:16:47,934 and bring one puppeteer. Me and one other person, 4830 03:16:48,037 --> 03:16:50,143 and I said, "I need to bring a group of people 4831 03:16:50,246 --> 03:16:52,317 who can repair these things if they break down." 4832 03:16:52,421 --> 03:16:54,492 And they just didn't want that done. 4833 03:16:54,595 --> 03:16:58,737 -I was crestfallen because Kevin was the guy 4834 03:16:58,841 --> 03:17:00,739 who first engineered and built Chucky 4835 03:17:00,843 --> 03:17:04,985 and has been puppeteering him and leading the puppeteers 4836 03:17:05,089 --> 03:17:08,126 over the course of the four movies and 10 years. 4837 03:17:08,230 --> 03:17:09,645 -I don't think I necessarily grew out of 4838 03:17:09,748 --> 03:17:11,129 doing "Child's Play," but you do go on 4839 03:17:11,233 --> 03:17:13,235 to do other things, and so you kind of go, 4840 03:17:13,338 --> 03:17:14,788 "I'm kind of done with that, you know, 4841 03:17:14,892 --> 03:17:16,100 and I'll leave it as it is. 4842 03:17:16,203 --> 03:17:17,480 You know, I'm proud of what I did." 4843 03:17:17,584 --> 03:17:19,034 -I mean, we were terrified. 4844 03:17:19,137 --> 03:17:21,174 We just didn't know what we were going to do. 4845 03:17:21,277 --> 03:17:22,969 -David Kirschner's words were, 4846 03:17:23,072 --> 03:17:26,075 "Well, if you don't do it, someone else is going to." 4847 03:17:26,179 --> 03:17:27,939 And I was like, "Okay." 4848 03:17:28,043 --> 03:17:30,010 -I met with Tony and saw, you know, 4849 03:17:30,114 --> 03:17:32,806 the amazing things that he's done in his career. 4850 03:17:32,910 --> 03:17:34,256 -We contacted archives, 4851 03:17:34,359 --> 03:17:37,155 and they had just the saddest two stunt dolls. 4852 03:17:37,259 --> 03:17:40,089 But there was really nothing for us to start with. 4853 03:17:40,193 --> 03:17:42,057 -He also brought in all the puppeteers -- 4854 03:17:42,160 --> 03:17:44,404 13 puppeteers per puppet. 4855 03:17:44,507 --> 03:17:47,303 -I got the unlucky reward of going to Romania. 4856 03:17:47,407 --> 03:17:49,133 for four months to be one of the puppeteers. 4857 03:17:49,236 --> 03:17:50,859 -At the time, the only reference we had 4858 03:17:50,962 --> 03:17:54,034 was watching it on TV, freeze framing the VHS, 4859 03:17:54,138 --> 03:17:58,728 taking photos off of the TV, and then developing those. 4860 03:17:58,832 --> 03:18:01,766 -We started from scratch, so we rebuilt Chucky and Tiffany 4861 03:18:01,870 --> 03:18:03,423 and then created a new Glen puppet. 4862 03:18:03,526 --> 03:18:06,840 -It was important that Glen have an androgynous look, 4863 03:18:06,944 --> 03:18:08,946 based on where the story was going. 4864 03:18:09,049 --> 03:18:11,327 Tim Burton meets Ziggy Stardust. 4865 03:18:11,431 --> 03:18:14,952 -Pointy teeth and a more angular, narrower face. 4866 03:18:15,055 --> 03:18:18,956 -Jutting high cheekbones and giant dark eyes 4867 03:18:19,059 --> 03:18:21,061 that look like death. 4868 03:18:21,165 --> 03:18:22,545 -We went through a bunch of iterations, 4869 03:18:22,649 --> 03:18:24,340 and everybody had a lot to say about it. 4870 03:18:24,444 --> 03:18:26,239 -But we went for it. We had three months 4871 03:18:26,342 --> 03:18:29,449 to build three characters and do duplicates of them, 4872 03:18:29,552 --> 03:18:32,901 so really six puppets, and throw it all in a box 4873 03:18:33,004 --> 03:18:36,318 and fly off to Romania and figure it out there. 4874 03:18:36,421 --> 03:18:38,907 -As the film continued gestating, 4875 03:18:39,010 --> 03:18:41,357 everyone's attention turned to casting. 4876 03:18:41,461 --> 03:18:45,327 That meant the surprising return of Chucky's one true love, 4877 03:18:45,430 --> 03:18:48,088 the reveal of a genuine Hollywood diva, 4878 03:18:48,192 --> 03:18:51,195 and finding the perfect voice for Chucky and Tiffany's 4879 03:18:51,298 --> 03:18:54,198 captivating and sympathetic offspring. 4880 03:18:54,301 --> 03:18:56,234 -When Don called me up and he said, 4881 03:18:56,338 --> 03:18:59,651 "Oh, we want to bring you back for 'Seed of Chucky,'" 4882 03:18:59,755 --> 03:19:02,033 I was confused 'cause I said, "Didn't Tiffany die 4883 03:19:02,137 --> 03:19:03,621 at the end of 'Bride of Chucky'?" 4884 03:19:03,724 --> 03:19:04,933 And he laughed, and he goes, 4885 03:19:05,036 --> 03:19:06,520 nobody ever really dies in these movies. 4886 03:19:06,624 --> 03:19:09,213 It's voodoo. I mean, we can always bring them back." 4887 03:19:09,316 --> 03:19:11,387 -It was great having Jennifer there. 4888 03:19:11,491 --> 03:19:13,527 I deliberately planned it that way. 4889 03:19:13,631 --> 03:19:16,875 -He basically took all the worst aspects of me 4890 03:19:16,979 --> 03:19:19,188 and made the Jennifer Tilly creation, 4891 03:19:19,292 --> 03:19:21,156 like, this really insecure, 4892 03:19:21,259 --> 03:19:25,470 narcissistic, self-involved actress, which we loved. 4893 03:19:25,574 --> 03:19:26,989 -Everything we did was 4894 03:19:27,093 --> 03:19:30,993 with Jennifer's enthusiastic endorsement. 4895 03:19:31,097 --> 03:19:32,822 -And I said to Don, "You have to make me 4896 03:19:32,926 --> 03:19:35,170 the horrible diva movie star from hell." 4897 03:19:35,273 --> 03:19:37,275 You know, I should have played Erin Brockovich. 4898 03:19:37,379 --> 03:19:39,346 I could have done it without the WonderBra. 4899 03:19:39,450 --> 03:19:43,040 -Going back to work and walking in a booth 4900 03:19:43,143 --> 03:19:47,113 where Jennifer is there is, like, really exciting. 4901 03:19:47,216 --> 03:19:50,047 -And then I had to find the new Brad Dourif, 4902 03:19:50,150 --> 03:19:53,153 the new Jennifer Tilly, the new great actor 4903 03:19:53,257 --> 03:19:57,123 who was going to be able to sell all of this 4904 03:19:57,226 --> 03:20:00,747 and play both characters, Glen and Glenda. 4905 03:20:00,850 --> 03:20:02,749 -We heard a host of voices. 4906 03:20:02,852 --> 03:20:05,131 Don really sparked to Billy Boyd. 4907 03:20:05,234 --> 03:20:09,100 -The way he voiced that character was adorable, 4908 03:20:09,204 --> 03:20:11,861 and the character was very vulnerable. 4909 03:20:11,965 --> 03:20:14,450 -It's because of the way I look, isn't it? 4910 03:20:14,554 --> 03:20:18,178 -There's just this sweet quality that he had. 4911 03:20:18,282 --> 03:20:19,559 And intelligence. 4912 03:20:19,662 --> 03:20:21,733 -Yeah, Dad, it'll be fun. 4913 03:20:21,837 --> 03:20:23,390 -He just really did a great job 4914 03:20:23,494 --> 03:20:27,222 of bringing the pathos and the sweetness of that character, 4915 03:20:27,325 --> 03:20:30,328 and I think that's why Glen/Glenda is so beloved. 4916 03:20:30,432 --> 03:20:32,330 -We were going to distinguish the voices. 4917 03:20:32,434 --> 03:20:36,817 We knew that we wanted Glen to basically be Pip 4918 03:20:36,921 --> 03:20:38,233 from "Great Expectations." 4919 03:20:38,336 --> 03:20:39,751 -Tell us your name -- quick! 4920 03:20:39,855 --> 03:20:41,684 -Pip. Pip, sir. 4921 03:20:41,788 --> 03:20:45,033 -But for Glen's female side, 4922 03:20:45,136 --> 03:20:48,036 what about, like, a Cockney streetwalker? 4923 03:20:48,139 --> 03:20:50,831 -[Gasp] I'm a real "lady killer," 4924 03:20:50,935 --> 03:20:52,868 if you catch my drift. 4925 03:20:52,971 --> 03:20:55,353 -And that's really what Glenda is. 4926 03:20:55,457 --> 03:20:57,010 You know, just that kind of, 4927 03:20:57,114 --> 03:20:58,805 like, "Freshen your drink, guvnor?" 4928 03:20:58,908 --> 03:21:03,051 -With cast, crew, and brand-new animatronic creations 4929 03:21:03,154 --> 03:21:05,398 ready to play -- and slay -- 4930 03:21:05,501 --> 03:21:10,886 "Seed of Chucky" went before the cameras on March 15, 2004. 4931 03:21:10,989 --> 03:21:12,060 -So, the title sequence 4932 03:21:12,163 --> 03:21:14,545 I actually wrote into the script, 4933 03:21:14,648 --> 03:21:18,480 even seeing Jennifer Tilly's name on screen 4934 03:21:18,583 --> 03:21:22,070 as Chucky's seed comes slowly. 4935 03:21:22,173 --> 03:21:26,281 I wanted it to be an icky, pervy version 4936 03:21:26,384 --> 03:21:28,662 of the Bond gun-barrel thing. 4937 03:21:28,766 --> 03:21:30,526 -Like anything Don does, there's an extraordinary 4938 03:21:30,630 --> 03:21:33,150 amount of work that goes on behind the scenes. 4939 03:21:33,253 --> 03:21:36,946 -Richard Morrison had done "Batman" for Tim Burton 4940 03:21:37,050 --> 03:21:38,776 and a couple of his other films, 4941 03:21:38,879 --> 03:21:40,674 so this seemed like a marriage made in heaven. 4942 03:21:40,778 --> 03:21:42,607 ♪♪ 4943 03:21:42,711 --> 03:21:45,196 The opening scene is 4944 03:21:45,300 --> 03:21:49,373 at once an homage to "Halloween," 4945 03:21:49,476 --> 03:21:51,513 then we move into "Psycho," 4946 03:21:51,616 --> 03:21:54,309 where he kills the woman in the bathtub. 4947 03:21:54,412 --> 03:21:55,724 ♪♪ 4948 03:21:55,827 --> 03:21:57,519 -[Screams] 4949 03:21:57,622 --> 03:22:00,694 -Glen is this poor, tortured soul in this cage 4950 03:22:00,798 --> 03:22:03,594 and treated as a performing rat, essentially. 4951 03:22:03,697 --> 03:22:07,149 -Glen is meant to be a Dickensian orphan type, 4952 03:22:07,253 --> 03:22:08,806 much abused. 4953 03:22:08,909 --> 03:22:13,466 It seemed like a ventriloquist would be the best abuser. 4954 03:22:13,569 --> 03:22:16,020 -You were shit last night. 4955 03:22:16,124 --> 03:22:19,334 -Psychs is a reference to Dickens. 4956 03:22:19,437 --> 03:22:22,475 -And then he sees on TV the behind-the-scenes 4957 03:22:22,578 --> 03:22:24,649 of the Chucky film being made. 4958 03:22:24,753 --> 03:22:26,064 -Fuck with your mind! 4959 03:22:26,168 --> 03:22:27,583 -Chucky's broke again! 4960 03:22:27,687 --> 03:22:31,311 -We needed this actor to do this one scene 4961 03:22:31,415 --> 03:22:33,451 in the film within the film. 4962 03:22:33,555 --> 03:22:35,281 A guy said, "What about my friend Jason Flemyng?" 4963 03:22:35,384 --> 03:22:37,283 And I said, like, "Fuck! Awesome." 4964 03:22:37,386 --> 03:22:39,837 So, Jason Flemyng agreed to do it, 4965 03:22:39,940 --> 03:22:43,012 and he flew in, um... 4966 03:22:43,116 --> 03:22:45,567 complained a lot. 4967 03:22:45,670 --> 03:22:46,947 -[Shouts] 4968 03:22:47,051 --> 03:22:48,708 -Jason Flemyng had to play Santa 4969 03:22:48,811 --> 03:22:51,089 and schlep all these packages through the snow, 4970 03:22:51,193 --> 03:22:54,714 and he gets killed by Tiffany with a slinky around his neck. 4971 03:22:54,817 --> 03:22:58,027 And it was totally goofy, stupid stuff. 4972 03:22:58,131 --> 03:23:00,202 -I'd be interested to know more why 4973 03:23:00,306 --> 03:23:03,240 this was such an unpleasant experience for him. 4974 03:23:03,343 --> 03:23:05,690 -This is unprofessional, and I can't work like this! 4975 03:23:05,794 --> 03:23:07,520 -I don't -- Like, I don't know. 4976 03:23:07,623 --> 03:23:10,247 -We're here in Hollywood, where production is underway 4977 03:23:10,350 --> 03:23:12,904 on the new horror flick "Chucky Goes Psycho." 4978 03:23:13,008 --> 03:23:16,218 -I had another thought -- "Chucky, Actually" -- 4979 03:23:16,322 --> 03:23:18,393 because "Love, Actually" was right around that time. 4980 03:23:18,496 --> 03:23:19,808 Nobody found that funny. 4981 03:23:19,911 --> 03:23:22,362 -So everybody's sort of, like, either themselves 4982 03:23:22,466 --> 03:23:24,640 or a variation of somebody else in the room, 4983 03:23:24,744 --> 03:23:26,642 which was pretty hilarious at times. 4984 03:23:26,746 --> 03:23:28,196 -I think "Seed of Chucky" is really interesting 4985 03:23:28,299 --> 03:23:30,922 for being a commentary on Hollywood. 4986 03:23:31,026 --> 03:23:33,408 It was so incredibly meta. 4987 03:23:33,511 --> 03:23:36,445 -I see it in terms of how Don was adapting 4988 03:23:36,549 --> 03:23:38,136 to where the genre was. 4989 03:23:38,240 --> 03:23:39,759 It's self-referential. 4990 03:23:39,862 --> 03:23:42,727 -I played Don Mancini being directed by Don Mancini. 4991 03:23:42,831 --> 03:23:44,246 -Tony, what was that? 4992 03:23:44,350 --> 03:23:46,766 -And here's Tony Gardner as Tony Gardner. 4993 03:23:46,869 --> 03:23:49,147 [Gears whirring] -[Gasps] 4994 03:23:49,251 --> 03:23:50,804 -There you go. 4995 03:23:50,908 --> 03:23:53,048 -I need to take a meeting with this Redman right away. 4996 03:23:53,151 --> 03:23:54,670 -When Redman was cast for the film, 4997 03:23:54,774 --> 03:23:58,364 the studio really wanted someone kind of cool, edgy. 4998 03:23:58,467 --> 03:24:02,195 -My dream casting was Quentin Tarantino. 4999 03:24:02,299 --> 03:24:03,507 I didn't know Quentin Tarantino. 5000 03:24:03,610 --> 03:24:05,578 I still don't know Quentin Tarantino. 5001 03:24:05,681 --> 03:24:09,064 -He wanted an actual indie director to direct it. 5002 03:24:09,167 --> 03:24:11,653 -I was considering Vincent Gallo, 5003 03:24:11,756 --> 03:24:13,724 and Jennifer goes, "Oh, no, no." 5004 03:24:13,827 --> 03:24:15,588 [Laughs] 5005 03:24:15,691 --> 03:24:17,417 'Cause she had worked with him, and she just said, 5006 03:24:17,521 --> 03:24:19,316 "No, he will eat you alive." 5007 03:24:19,419 --> 03:24:20,765 -The studio was like, 5008 03:24:20,869 --> 03:24:22,629 "Oh, Redman would be a great indie director." 5009 03:24:22,733 --> 03:24:25,425 -Universal suggested Redman. 5010 03:24:25,529 --> 03:24:26,737 -Yo, Redman here. 5011 03:24:26,840 --> 03:24:28,635 I'm on the scene at "Seed of Chucky." 5012 03:24:28,739 --> 03:24:30,741 -I liked him, and he's charismatic. 5013 03:24:30,844 --> 03:24:32,708 -Don thought it was funny the way I said Redman. 5014 03:24:32,812 --> 03:24:34,814 Is it "Red man," "Red man"? -"Red man." 5015 03:24:34,917 --> 03:24:37,092 -"Red man," okay. I would always say "Red-muhn." 5016 03:24:37,195 --> 03:24:39,370 -Oh, that's so sweet, Redman. 5017 03:24:39,474 --> 03:24:41,717 -He was an absolute gentleman, a pro. 5018 03:24:41,821 --> 03:24:43,719 I had no idea if this guy could even act. 5019 03:24:43,823 --> 03:24:45,687 -Man, this was meant to be, baby, for real. 5020 03:24:45,790 --> 03:24:47,896 -But he did, and he was great in the film. 5021 03:24:47,999 --> 03:24:50,174 -Action. -[Grunts] 5022 03:24:50,278 --> 03:24:51,727 -[Laughs] -And cut. 5023 03:24:51,831 --> 03:24:53,142 -They're puppets. 5024 03:24:53,246 --> 03:24:54,903 -They don't walk and talk by themselves. 5025 03:24:55,006 --> 03:24:59,217 -So I always had this concept of the puppeteer 5026 03:24:59,321 --> 03:25:00,702 getting killed by the puppet. 5027 03:25:00,805 --> 03:25:02,600 Originally, it was going to be Kevin. 5028 03:25:02,704 --> 03:25:06,121 -I remember having to do an audition at Don's house 5029 03:25:06,224 --> 03:25:07,916 on Don's kitchen table, 5030 03:25:08,019 --> 03:25:11,678 strapped down, and the dolls performing "Operation!" on me. 5031 03:25:11,782 --> 03:25:13,404 -"Is Tony gonna be able to do this?" 5032 03:25:13,508 --> 03:25:14,957 But we realized he could. 5033 03:25:15,061 --> 03:25:16,511 -The day of the shoot, 5034 03:25:16,614 --> 03:25:18,789 I remember it was super schizophrenic for me 5035 03:25:18,892 --> 03:25:24,001 because I'm acting as this guy, wearing specific wardrobe. 5036 03:25:24,104 --> 03:25:26,072 The guy's name is Tony Gardner. 5037 03:25:26,175 --> 03:25:29,351 So you're playing this part, and then when they say cut, 5038 03:25:29,455 --> 03:25:31,595 and then you're Tony Gardner, the effects guy, 5039 03:25:31,698 --> 03:25:34,252 setting up the puppet version of yourself 5040 03:25:34,356 --> 03:25:36,185 for how you're gonna die. 5041 03:25:36,289 --> 03:25:38,671 -And it's just, again, Don Mancini, meta. 5042 03:25:38,774 --> 03:25:41,881 -And that, to this day, remains one of my favorite kills 5043 03:25:41,984 --> 03:25:43,158 in the whole franchise. 5044 03:25:43,261 --> 03:25:44,987 ♪♪ 5045 03:25:45,091 --> 03:25:46,644 It just goes off like a cork. 5046 03:25:46,748 --> 03:25:48,543 -When they did the scene of it rolling up in the air 5047 03:25:48,646 --> 03:25:53,271 towards camera, they actually had it on a spit, 5048 03:25:53,375 --> 03:25:55,135 and we were rolling it like this, 5049 03:25:55,239 --> 03:25:58,000 and the camera was pushing in towards it and pulling out. 5050 03:25:58,104 --> 03:26:01,418 And then they actually filmed me in a green suit, 5051 03:26:01,521 --> 03:26:03,005 and they comped my eyes 5052 03:26:03,109 --> 03:26:04,800 right before it starts to fall back down, 5053 03:26:04,904 --> 03:26:07,631 so that they could have more realistic eyes in there. 5054 03:26:07,734 --> 03:26:09,771 -Pete Peters, "Celebrities Revealed." 5055 03:26:09,874 --> 03:26:11,117 -And I thought like, "Oh, it'd be great 5056 03:26:11,220 --> 03:26:12,567 to have John in the movie. 5057 03:26:12,670 --> 03:26:14,465 So the way I was able to communicate with him 5058 03:26:14,569 --> 03:26:15,984 was through Tony Gardner. 5059 03:26:16,087 --> 03:26:18,227 -I was super thrilled that that Don wanted 5060 03:26:18,331 --> 03:26:20,816 to hire John Waters to be in it. 5061 03:26:20,920 --> 03:26:23,647 -I had heard from Justin Whalin, actually, 5062 03:26:23,750 --> 03:26:27,409 years before, that John Waters was a fan 5063 03:26:27,513 --> 03:26:30,585 'cause Justin worked with John in "Serial Mom." 5064 03:26:30,688 --> 03:26:32,414 -John Waters was a big Chucky fan, 5065 03:26:32,518 --> 03:26:33,726 and he said that he really wanted 5066 03:26:33,829 --> 03:26:35,555 to get killed by Chucky. -You know, 5067 03:26:35,659 --> 03:26:38,765 he was insistent on coming on and playing a role, 5068 03:26:38,869 --> 03:26:40,629 so that he could be killed by Chucky. 5069 03:26:40,733 --> 03:26:42,631 -Well, I loved all the "Chucky" movies, 5070 03:26:42,735 --> 03:26:44,322 and I jumped at the chance, you know, 5071 03:26:44,426 --> 03:26:46,083 because, uh, I like to be in movies 5072 03:26:46,186 --> 03:26:48,810 that maybe people won't expect to see me in. 5073 03:26:48,913 --> 03:26:51,260 -Don was able to get John to come on board. 5074 03:26:51,364 --> 03:26:53,746 -He said, "Yes, I'm completely on board. 5075 03:26:53,849 --> 03:26:56,680 This is going to be great." -Plus, I got to go to Romania 5076 03:26:56,783 --> 03:26:59,130 for the only time in my whole life I ever went there. 5077 03:26:59,234 --> 03:27:00,856 -I was so surprised and thrilled 5078 03:27:00,960 --> 03:27:03,583 that John Waters said yes, I think that Don had that dream, 5079 03:27:03,687 --> 03:27:05,309 like in his pocket the whole time. 5080 03:27:05,413 --> 03:27:08,899 -He improvised a couple of his best, most memorable lines. 5081 03:27:09,002 --> 03:27:13,248 -I'm confronted by reporters, and one of them is John Waters, 5082 03:27:13,351 --> 03:27:15,561 and he's screaming questions at me. 5083 03:27:15,664 --> 03:27:17,355 And I remember I was kind of annoyed, 5084 03:27:17,459 --> 03:27:18,598 because he was ad-libbing. 5085 03:27:18,702 --> 03:27:19,979 -Jennifer, how old are you really? 5086 03:27:20,082 --> 03:27:21,463 -I'm like, "That wasn't in the script." 5087 03:27:21,567 --> 03:27:23,327 Like, "Hey, stop it. 5088 03:27:23,431 --> 03:27:24,984 Stop bringing attention to my age." 5089 03:27:25,087 --> 03:27:27,331 -Did I? I'm usually against ad-libbing. 5090 03:27:27,435 --> 03:27:29,506 I'm -- If -- If I did, they asked me to. 5091 03:27:29,609 --> 03:27:31,059 I would never butt in 5092 03:27:31,162 --> 03:27:34,165 and do that, because I respect the writers. 5093 03:27:34,269 --> 03:27:36,167 [Indistinct conversations] -Jennifer, I love you. 5094 03:27:36,271 --> 03:27:38,100 I... 5095 03:27:38,204 --> 03:27:40,689 Jennifer, I love you. 5096 03:27:40,793 --> 03:27:42,657 -I was between boyfriends at the time, 5097 03:27:42,760 --> 03:27:44,313 and I remember Don was like, 5098 03:27:44,417 --> 03:27:48,248 "I'm gonna get you a really attractive straight guy 5099 03:27:48,352 --> 03:27:49,802 to be the chauffeur." 5100 03:27:49,905 --> 03:27:51,907 And then, I showed up on the set, I was kind of like, 5101 03:27:52,011 --> 03:27:54,979 thinking like, "Oh, hello, here I am. 5102 03:27:55,083 --> 03:27:56,843 Where's my set romance?" 5103 03:27:56,947 --> 03:27:58,638 And it was Steve, and I was like, 5104 03:27:58,742 --> 03:28:01,469 "Oh, he's not my type. He's more Don's type." 5105 03:28:01,572 --> 03:28:03,609 [Laughter] 5106 03:28:03,712 --> 03:28:06,128 -Jennifer, I have something important I -- 5107 03:28:06,232 --> 03:28:07,613 -Hold on a second, sweetheart. 5108 03:28:07,716 --> 03:28:09,062 -Considering the context that Jennifer Tilly 5109 03:28:09,166 --> 03:28:10,685 was playing Jennifer Tilly, 5110 03:28:10,788 --> 03:28:13,964 and I was this London actor pretending to be, 5111 03:28:14,067 --> 03:28:17,485 you know, an American chauffeur, uh, in love with Jennifer Tilly. 5112 03:28:17,588 --> 03:28:19,314 That wasn't that difficult. 5113 03:28:19,417 --> 03:28:20,833 -So, it was actually very touching, 5114 03:28:20,936 --> 03:28:23,007 like, how devoted he was towards me 5115 03:28:23,111 --> 03:28:25,838 and how she sort of saw him as sort of an extension 5116 03:28:25,941 --> 03:28:27,909 of the steering wheel that drove her home. 5117 03:28:28,012 --> 03:28:33,570 -Aren't you gonna give me a hand here? 5118 03:28:33,673 --> 03:28:37,746 -Chucky is masturbating to Fangoria,of course. 5119 03:28:37,850 --> 03:28:39,610 -Ah. -I think he was looking 5120 03:28:39,714 --> 03:28:41,198 at a picture of Don Mancini. 5121 03:28:41,301 --> 03:28:43,925 -I do remember, though, for legal reasons, 5122 03:28:44,028 --> 03:28:46,065 we had to mock up our own cover, 5123 03:28:46,168 --> 03:28:48,101 but we have the actual Fangorialogo. 5124 03:28:48,205 --> 03:28:50,276 They definitely endorsed the moment. 5125 03:28:50,379 --> 03:28:54,901 It's like "Seed of Chucky," brought to you by Fangoria. 5126 03:28:55,005 --> 03:28:57,110 -Come to Papa. 5127 03:28:57,214 --> 03:28:59,906 -You know what? I don't remember that. [Laughs] 5128 03:29:00,010 --> 03:29:01,459 -It was often... 5129 03:29:01,563 --> 03:29:03,461 uh, almost unbelievable what we were doing. 5130 03:29:03,565 --> 03:29:05,843 -I -- I -- Was I masturbating? 5131 03:29:05,947 --> 03:29:08,087 -Tony and the puppeteers were very on board 5132 03:29:08,190 --> 03:29:10,952 with going for this kind of John Waters, 5133 03:29:11,055 --> 03:29:15,232 you know, trash, you know, obscenity vibe. 5134 03:29:15,335 --> 03:29:17,924 -While we were laughing, we were all so amazed that, uh, 5135 03:29:18,028 --> 03:29:20,996 somebody would be bold enough to make something this crazy. 5136 03:29:21,100 --> 03:29:23,965 -You know, and to actually see Chucky's dick, 5137 03:29:24,068 --> 03:29:28,107 which you can in the unrated version. 5138 03:29:28,210 --> 03:29:31,041 It was scripted and we did it and we shot it. 5139 03:29:31,144 --> 03:29:33,871 But from the powers that be, there was some squeamishness. 5140 03:29:33,975 --> 03:29:36,667 -I -- I love the idea of the exploration of -- 5141 03:29:36,771 --> 03:29:38,255 of Glen/Glenda. 5142 03:29:38,358 --> 03:29:41,603 I just thought, personally, we got a bit base with, 5143 03:29:41,707 --> 03:29:45,193 um, masturbation and -- and seeing, 5144 03:29:45,296 --> 03:29:47,436 um, semen in a cup. 5145 03:29:47,540 --> 03:29:49,473 -What am I supposed to do with this? 5146 03:29:49,577 --> 03:29:52,545 -You know, so what? It's fine. [Laughs] 5147 03:29:52,649 --> 03:29:54,478 -I like that. -Good for Don. 5148 03:29:54,582 --> 03:29:56,100 Good for the movie. 5149 03:29:56,204 --> 03:29:57,757 -Get it, mini meat. 5150 03:29:57,861 --> 03:29:59,552 -Well, Chucky's kind of beyond taste. 5151 03:29:59,656 --> 03:30:01,209 I mean, Chucky masturbating is, 5152 03:30:01,312 --> 03:30:03,936 at first, you get nervous, but he must be 18 by now. 5153 03:30:04,039 --> 03:30:05,800 -John Waters is there watching it, 5154 03:30:05,903 --> 03:30:08,250 which was a great running commentary in and of itself. 5155 03:30:08,354 --> 03:30:11,702 -I love the idea, because you never see monsters having sex 5156 03:30:11,806 --> 03:30:13,808 or masturbating or especially masturbating. 5157 03:30:13,911 --> 03:30:16,742 -And you have to really over exaggerate your moves 5158 03:30:16,845 --> 03:30:19,814 for it to translate down into this puppet that's down, 5159 03:30:19,917 --> 03:30:21,539 you know, 15 feet of cable. 5160 03:30:21,643 --> 03:30:24,404 One of our British puppeteers, Andy Garner, drew the straw 5161 03:30:24,508 --> 03:30:27,235 of having to puppeteer Chucky's arms for that scene. 5162 03:30:27,338 --> 03:30:29,409 -So, when you have all those people trying to tap 5163 03:30:29,513 --> 03:30:33,103 into kind of what they know about what Chucky is doing, uh, 5164 03:30:33,206 --> 03:30:35,726 it just became extremely hilarious. 5165 03:30:35,830 --> 03:30:38,453 -Where are we going? -Hunting. 5166 03:30:38,556 --> 03:30:40,006 -The story is set in Hollywood. 5167 03:30:40,110 --> 03:30:41,939 I thought it would be fun for Chucky 5168 03:30:42,043 --> 03:30:46,357 to sort of casually run some celebrity off the road. 5169 03:30:46,461 --> 03:30:49,498 Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne were being considered, 5170 03:30:49,602 --> 03:30:53,019 but at some point, our casting director had an actress 5171 03:30:53,123 --> 03:30:55,504 who was the spitting image of Britney Spears. 5172 03:30:55,608 --> 03:30:57,645 -It's the height of Britney Spears fame. 5173 03:30:57,748 --> 03:30:59,439 -The double is so convincing. 5174 03:30:59,543 --> 03:31:02,304 -That's why it was Britney Spears 5175 03:31:02,408 --> 03:31:04,272 specifically that Chucky killed. 5176 03:31:04,375 --> 03:31:08,379 Not because I have anything against Britney Spears. 5177 03:31:08,483 --> 03:31:11,693 -[Laughs] Oops, I did it again. 5178 03:31:11,797 --> 03:31:14,454 -So, anyway, Britney, you're awesome. 5179 03:31:14,558 --> 03:31:16,525 -Jesus Christ. 5180 03:31:16,629 --> 03:31:18,251 -Who wouldn't want to kill John Waters? 5181 03:31:18,355 --> 03:31:20,081 I mean, it was just great. No, I'm kidding. 5182 03:31:20,184 --> 03:31:22,117 He was amazing. -The very first take, 5183 03:31:22,221 --> 03:31:23,774 Glen is coming over to me, and they say "Cut!" 5184 03:31:23,878 --> 03:31:25,465 And of course, the puppet goes blank. 5185 03:31:25,569 --> 03:31:27,536 And then, he looked up at me and said, "Fuck you" like that, 5186 03:31:27,640 --> 03:31:28,917 because the puppeteers were under there 5187 03:31:29,021 --> 03:31:30,678 just trying to fuck with me. 5188 03:31:30,781 --> 03:31:34,233 -John loved Glen, so it made it even more special. 5189 03:31:34,336 --> 03:31:36,822 -The melting of his face, it's "Raiders" 5190 03:31:36,925 --> 03:31:39,894 when the Nazi looks into the Ark of the Covenant. 5191 03:31:39,997 --> 03:31:41,619 -Killing him was really fun, 5192 03:31:41,723 --> 03:31:44,795 but we did a prosthetic makeup on him with some goo tubing 5193 03:31:44,899 --> 03:31:46,659 and slime and stuff like that in it. 5194 03:31:46,763 --> 03:31:48,592 -Making the mask was much scarier 5195 03:31:48,696 --> 03:31:50,421 than having Glen or Chucky come after me. 5196 03:31:50,525 --> 03:31:54,598 -John was super graceful and super witty as always, 5197 03:31:54,702 --> 03:31:56,117 never at a loss for words. 5198 03:31:56,220 --> 03:31:59,741 -And he was also really beneficial to me. 5199 03:31:59,845 --> 03:32:02,226 He was just like very calming, you know? 5200 03:32:02,330 --> 03:32:04,746 And he was like saying, "Yeah, you just gotta, you know, 5201 03:32:04,850 --> 03:32:06,679 take a step back and think of it -- 5202 03:32:06,783 --> 03:32:08,129 Look at the big picture. 5203 03:32:08,232 --> 03:32:10,476 It's brick by motherfucking brick." 5204 03:32:10,579 --> 03:32:14,307 So, yeah, it was a lot of fun to work with such a legend. 5205 03:32:14,411 --> 03:32:16,378 -I'm thrilled to be in "Chucky." Bring me back. 5206 03:32:16,482 --> 03:32:19,796 I want to be in another one. 5207 03:32:19,899 --> 03:32:21,349 [Knife slices] 5208 03:32:21,452 --> 03:32:23,282 -Tiffany doesn't like how Redman has been treating 5209 03:32:23,385 --> 03:32:26,354 Jennifer Tilly, and so she disemboweled him. 5210 03:32:26,457 --> 03:32:29,875 -The rig on him for that was a big fake stomach 5211 03:32:29,978 --> 03:32:33,292 on a vest that literally opened up in the center 5212 03:32:33,395 --> 03:32:36,053 along the cut line of Tiffany's knife. 5213 03:32:36,157 --> 03:32:37,710 -And I remember there were so many guts, 5214 03:32:37,814 --> 03:32:39,470 there were so many intestines, I was like, 5215 03:32:39,574 --> 03:32:42,888 "Do people really have that many intestines in them?" 5216 03:32:42,991 --> 03:32:44,993 -Don got a great shot when he dies. 5217 03:32:45,097 --> 03:32:46,615 It's very, very Hitchcock. 5218 03:32:46,719 --> 03:32:48,928 -I feel like he and -- and John Waters 5219 03:32:49,032 --> 03:32:50,896 both really enjoyed 5220 03:32:50,999 --> 03:32:53,588 dying by the hands of these -- these puppets. 5221 03:32:53,691 --> 03:32:55,659 -[Crying] -Tiff. 5222 03:32:55,763 --> 03:32:57,419 -[Laughs] 5223 03:32:57,523 --> 03:33:01,596 -Glen/Glenda turns out to be, uh, homicidal, 5224 03:33:01,699 --> 03:33:03,184 just like his parents. 5225 03:33:03,287 --> 03:33:07,567 -Glen has split and -- and manifested as Glenda, 5226 03:33:07,671 --> 03:33:11,709 and their parents are very confused about what to do. 5227 03:33:11,813 --> 03:33:17,198 -Glen? -Guess again, Daddy. 5228 03:33:17,301 --> 03:33:18,682 -Glenda? 5229 03:33:18,786 --> 03:33:21,271 -The idea of trying to -- to bring a transgender character 5230 03:33:21,374 --> 03:33:25,585 to life was a great challenge, and it was taken very seriously. 5231 03:33:25,689 --> 03:33:27,415 -To take Glen to Glenda. 5232 03:33:27,518 --> 03:33:31,453 It was really all about, um, a makeup makeover 5233 03:33:31,557 --> 03:33:33,110 on the actual puppet. 5234 03:33:33,214 --> 03:33:36,251 -It kind of struck me how forward it was 5235 03:33:36,355 --> 03:33:39,082 and how forward Don was putting that in 5236 03:33:39,185 --> 03:33:40,980 back then. -I didn't think of it, like, 5237 03:33:41,084 --> 03:33:44,294 we were doing anything out of the box or ahead of its time. 5238 03:33:44,397 --> 03:33:48,298 I was focused on trying to be true to the character. 5239 03:33:48,401 --> 03:33:50,472 -People are very touchy about the subject. 5240 03:33:50,576 --> 03:33:52,889 Um, I think it treats it with great respect. 5241 03:33:52,992 --> 03:33:55,236 -That sort of nod to someone, like, 5242 03:33:55,339 --> 03:33:58,826 Ed Wood and to trans people and to, 5243 03:33:58,929 --> 03:34:02,105 you know, all of us queer freaks and weirdos. 5244 03:34:02,208 --> 03:34:04,866 You know, that's who that moment was for. 5245 03:34:04,970 --> 03:34:09,767 We got that that was being presented in a loving, 5246 03:34:09,871 --> 03:34:13,323 respectful, uh, gracious way. 5247 03:34:13,426 --> 03:34:16,188 -And I felt empathy towards the character. 5248 03:34:16,291 --> 03:34:19,536 And I wanted everything to be real, because without that, 5249 03:34:19,639 --> 03:34:21,779 there's -- there's no story. 5250 03:34:21,883 --> 03:34:23,229 To me, there's no heart. 5251 03:34:23,333 --> 03:34:24,921 -Wake up right now! -[Laughs] 5252 03:34:25,024 --> 03:34:28,890 -[Gasps] -Tiffany slaps Glenda and -- 5253 03:34:28,994 --> 03:34:30,788 and then, Glen comes back, 5254 03:34:30,892 --> 03:34:35,517 and there's that moment where -- where they look in the mirror. 5255 03:34:35,621 --> 03:34:37,381 It says, "What am I?" 5256 03:34:37,485 --> 03:34:38,900 That like, again, maybe, 5257 03:34:39,004 --> 03:34:41,178 because I'm gay and my, you know, 5258 03:34:41,282 --> 03:34:43,940 like, I played a version of that scene 5259 03:34:44,043 --> 03:34:47,633 as all or most gay men do when they're growing up. 5260 03:34:47,736 --> 03:34:51,223 So, it hit home, I think, for me and for, you know, 5261 03:34:51,326 --> 03:34:53,294 gay audiences, as it turned out. 5262 03:34:53,397 --> 03:34:55,883 -Push, Miss Tilly, push! -[Breathing heavily] 5263 03:34:55,986 --> 03:34:58,333 -I am pushing you little star fucker! 5264 03:34:58,437 --> 03:35:00,197 -Then, I had to have a baby birthing scene. 5265 03:35:00,301 --> 03:35:03,166 I'd never birthed a baby before in -- in real life, 5266 03:35:03,269 --> 03:35:05,099 so that was a lot of screaming. 5267 03:35:05,202 --> 03:35:07,101 I just screamed like it was a horror film. 5268 03:35:07,204 --> 03:35:08,792 -Tiffany is attending, 5269 03:35:08,896 --> 03:35:11,588 and Chucky is like the nervous father waiting in the wings. 5270 03:35:11,691 --> 03:35:13,624 -All the bed scene stuff we didn't think was fair, 5271 03:35:13,728 --> 03:35:16,041 because all the human actors basically had to do 5272 03:35:16,144 --> 03:35:17,663 is lay there with gags in their mouths. 5273 03:35:17,766 --> 03:35:20,700 -I do remember Don apologizing a lot for the fact 5274 03:35:20,804 --> 03:35:22,357 that I had a sock in my mouth. 5275 03:35:22,461 --> 03:35:25,636 -So, it wasn't like I was attractive, tied to the bed. 5276 03:35:25,740 --> 03:35:29,226 I was like this big beached whale, and a lot of times, 5277 03:35:29,330 --> 03:35:31,435 like, my feet would be in the foreground, 5278 03:35:31,539 --> 03:35:33,299 tied to the bed stand. 5279 03:35:33,403 --> 03:35:36,854 So, I was like, "I have looked more attractive in the past." 5280 03:35:36,958 --> 03:35:38,580 I'm trying to seduce you. 5281 03:35:38,684 --> 03:35:41,204 -I think I do remember asking Jennifer how she keeps going, 5282 03:35:41,307 --> 03:35:43,309 and she -- she just said, she just does. 5283 03:35:43,413 --> 03:35:44,966 -And it was kind of relaxing, 5284 03:35:45,070 --> 03:35:46,692 because I didn't really have to do anything, 5285 03:35:46,795 --> 03:35:48,832 just acting with my eyes, mostly. 5286 03:35:48,936 --> 03:35:52,594 -If that's what she does, then that's what I'm going to do. 5287 03:35:52,698 --> 03:35:55,218 -[Groans] -[Screams] 5288 03:35:55,321 --> 03:35:58,152 -The action of throwing with a mechanical arm, 5289 03:35:58,255 --> 03:36:01,051 and then, the whip hand to the -- to the impact 5290 03:36:01,155 --> 03:36:02,811 of the knife, I thought, were great. 5291 03:36:02,915 --> 03:36:05,228 -The knife -- I think the knife is CGI. 5292 03:36:05,331 --> 03:36:08,231 -He takes the knife in his chest to save her. 5293 03:36:08,334 --> 03:36:10,060 -So, then, I could throw myself 5294 03:36:10,164 --> 03:36:12,614 back onto Jennifer's lap into frame, 5295 03:36:12,718 --> 03:36:16,964 splurt the blood everywhere, and then, have the -- I -- 5296 03:36:17,067 --> 03:36:18,827 I love -- I love it up, which was not difficult, 5297 03:36:18,931 --> 03:36:20,795 because I was choking on ketchup blood. 5298 03:36:20,898 --> 03:36:22,245 -In the first draft, 5299 03:36:22,348 --> 03:36:24,972 he finally gets out, "I love you." 5300 03:36:25,075 --> 03:36:28,320 Jennifer Tilly's response was "Thanks!" 5301 03:36:28,423 --> 03:36:32,358 And then, he dies, and we had to pull that back. 5302 03:36:32,462 --> 03:36:34,774 -Stan, tell me, tell me. [Baby wailing] 5303 03:36:34,878 --> 03:36:37,605 -And yeah, I love the fact I didn't get to say I love you. 5304 03:36:37,708 --> 03:36:39,158 I still think that's great. 5305 03:36:39,262 --> 03:36:41,436 -To the very end, he's still trying to get it out, 5306 03:36:41,540 --> 03:36:45,095 and he dies before he can, uh, say it. 5307 03:36:45,199 --> 03:36:46,752 -[Screams] -No! 5308 03:36:46,855 --> 03:36:49,444 -I honestly don't know how many times Jennifer Tilly 5309 03:36:49,548 --> 03:36:52,033 has died in this franchise at this point, 5310 03:36:52,137 --> 03:36:53,724 because whether it's me or someone else, 5311 03:36:53,828 --> 03:36:56,003 there's so many different versions of everybody. 5312 03:36:56,106 --> 03:36:57,797 -I love the scene where Glen/Glenda 5313 03:36:57,901 --> 03:36:58,936 is killing their dad. 5314 03:36:59,040 --> 03:37:00,386 -He chops Chucky up, 5315 03:37:00,490 --> 03:37:02,457 and Chucky finally is proud of him. 5316 03:37:02,561 --> 03:37:06,392 -Weirdly, he seems to really care about his son. 5317 03:37:06,496 --> 03:37:08,532 -Atta boy, kid. 5318 03:37:08,636 --> 03:37:12,433 -He goes, "Atta boy," and then dies. 5319 03:37:12,536 --> 03:37:16,851 -It's so beautiful. The rage comes from love. 5320 03:37:16,954 --> 03:37:18,577 Like, why don't you love me enough? 5321 03:37:18,680 --> 03:37:21,683 And, you know, I have to do this to you, 5322 03:37:21,787 --> 03:37:24,445 because you are evil, and you need to be obliterated. 5323 03:37:24,548 --> 03:37:27,344 -This murder was committed by Glen, not Glenda. 5324 03:37:27,448 --> 03:37:30,140 You know, Glenda is gleeful about killing. 5325 03:37:30,244 --> 03:37:31,831 Glen does not enjoy it. 5326 03:37:31,935 --> 03:37:35,835 And so, he's traumatized, and he breaks down in tears. 5327 03:37:35,939 --> 03:37:38,942 -This little kid had endured so much. 5328 03:37:39,046 --> 03:37:40,944 -And I remember when we shot that scene 5329 03:37:41,048 --> 03:37:43,533 where she's comforting the sobbing puppet, 5330 03:37:43,636 --> 03:37:46,639 we were all kind of, like, "Oh, God, that -- that's sad." 5331 03:37:46,743 --> 03:37:49,711 [Kids shouting playfully] It's a birthday party 5332 03:37:49,815 --> 03:37:54,302 with 60 Romanian children 5333 03:37:54,406 --> 03:37:57,133 running around as extras. 5334 03:37:57,236 --> 03:37:58,479 That was a lot. 5335 03:37:58,582 --> 03:38:00,274 -You have an homage to Mommie Dearest, 5336 03:38:00,377 --> 03:38:03,380 where she's having that children's birthday party. 5337 03:38:03,484 --> 03:38:05,072 -Tiffany has taken over Jennifer's life, 5338 03:38:05,175 --> 03:38:07,626 but now she's looking like Joan Crawford. 5339 03:38:07,729 --> 03:38:09,731 -And then, she takes the Tiffany doll, 5340 03:38:09,835 --> 03:38:12,596 and she pummels that sweet nanny to death. 5341 03:38:12,700 --> 03:38:16,083 And I loved how deranged Tiffany became 5342 03:38:16,186 --> 03:38:18,706 once she got into Jennifer Tilly's body. 5343 03:38:18,809 --> 03:38:21,916 I thought there was so much greatness in this film, 5344 03:38:22,019 --> 03:38:24,401 but the audience did not take to it. 5345 03:38:24,505 --> 03:38:27,059 It wasn't what they expected, especially Universal. 5346 03:38:27,163 --> 03:38:29,234 After "Seed of Chucky," they're like, "Okay, 5347 03:38:29,337 --> 03:38:31,684 now, you guys have had your fun. 5348 03:38:31,788 --> 03:38:34,101 Can we go back to Chucky being scary again?" 5349 03:38:34,204 --> 03:38:35,895 -There was a lot of eye rolling. 5350 03:38:35,999 --> 03:38:39,382 They trusted Don and I, and in their minds, we let them down. 5351 03:38:39,485 --> 03:38:41,660 -"Seed of Chucky" blasted onto movie screens 5352 03:38:41,763 --> 03:38:45,595 on November 11th, 2004, opening at #5 5353 03:38:45,698 --> 03:38:49,564 with a final global tally of less than $25 million. 5354 03:38:49,668 --> 03:38:52,395 Audiences and critics alike were divided. 5355 03:38:52,498 --> 03:38:55,225 Still, those who lent their talents to the project 5356 03:38:55,329 --> 03:38:57,365 will always remember the pleasure, 5357 03:38:57,469 --> 03:38:58,987 pain, and possibilities 5358 03:38:59,091 --> 03:39:02,750 of bringing the out of the Good Guy box idea to life. 5359 03:39:02,853 --> 03:39:07,306 -"Seed of Chucky" didn't get many great reviews, 5360 03:39:07,410 --> 03:39:08,859 but it did get some. 5361 03:39:08,963 --> 03:39:12,553 Pulitzer Prize-winner Wesley Morris did like it. 5362 03:39:12,656 --> 03:39:14,382 -By the time "Seed of Chucky" came out, 5363 03:39:14,486 --> 03:39:16,177 you'd had years of these 5364 03:39:16,281 --> 03:39:18,766 scream-influenced, self-reflexive horror movies. 5365 03:39:18,869 --> 03:39:21,286 And I just think critics were like, "I've heard this. 5366 03:39:21,389 --> 03:39:23,322 I've seen this kind of thing before." 5367 03:39:23,426 --> 03:39:25,117 And it kind of blinded them 5368 03:39:25,221 --> 03:39:28,465 to the strengths of the movie, and some of the very weird ways 5369 03:39:28,569 --> 03:39:30,364 in which the movie's really interesting. 5370 03:39:30,467 --> 03:39:33,229 -A horror movie is supposed to fit within a specific box, 5371 03:39:33,332 --> 03:39:34,713 and this sticks its hands out 5372 03:39:34,816 --> 03:39:36,577 in -- in a couple of different directions. 5373 03:39:36,680 --> 03:39:38,613 -That's something that horror does really well 5374 03:39:38,717 --> 03:39:43,342 is it makes things scary, but it also creates 5375 03:39:43,446 --> 03:39:46,345 an opportunity for discussion and conversation. 5376 03:39:46,449 --> 03:39:49,762 And I think that the best thing to help with fear 5377 03:39:49,866 --> 03:39:53,490 and bigotry is honest, open conversation. 5378 03:39:53,594 --> 03:39:55,665 -We're doing something that was like a little bit risky. 5379 03:39:55,768 --> 03:39:58,668 I think, something that people perhaps didn't think we were 5380 03:39:58,771 --> 03:40:01,498 going to be able to do as well as we were able to do it, 5381 03:40:01,602 --> 03:40:03,500 and it was just a fun experience all around. 5382 03:40:03,604 --> 03:40:06,469 -It was literally 7 days a week, every day. 5383 03:40:06,572 --> 03:40:07,987 The learning curve was massive, 5384 03:40:08,091 --> 03:40:10,404 and the work required was intense, 5385 03:40:10,507 --> 03:40:12,509 but I loved every minute of it. -It seemed so 5386 03:40:12,613 --> 03:40:15,857 rich, colorful, and so alive 5387 03:40:15,961 --> 03:40:19,792 that I forgot about the weeks and weeks of filming. 5388 03:40:19,896 --> 03:40:23,175 -It was kind of surreal to see what I'd been in 5389 03:40:23,279 --> 03:40:25,729 and been doing on the screen. 5390 03:40:25,833 --> 03:40:29,216 It was a lot more out there than I realized for a horror movie. 5391 03:40:29,319 --> 03:40:30,596 -You know? I was thrilled. 5392 03:40:30,700 --> 03:40:32,460 You know, I loved the "Chucky" thing. 5393 03:40:32,564 --> 03:40:34,497 That's what I get recognized for being in the "Chucky" movie, 5394 03:40:34,600 --> 03:40:36,395 not my film careers or not other stuff. 5395 03:40:36,499 --> 03:40:38,432 It was just great to be in it, and I was honored. 5396 03:40:38,535 --> 03:40:40,123 I still am honored. 5397 03:40:40,227 --> 03:40:41,504 -You know, when I saw "Seed," I thought -- 5398 03:40:41,607 --> 03:40:43,713 I thought it worked, I really had fun. 5399 03:40:43,816 --> 03:40:46,302 -Like, now, when people are ranking the "Chucky" movies, 5400 03:40:46,405 --> 03:40:48,476 and they -- they refer to it 5401 03:40:48,580 --> 03:40:50,927 as the film that almost killed the franchise. 5402 03:40:51,030 --> 03:40:52,687 [Laughs] I'm like, "Oh, my God, 5403 03:40:52,791 --> 03:40:54,827 that was like one of my very favorite films." 5404 03:40:54,931 --> 03:40:57,347 But I think people weren't ready for it. 5405 03:40:57,451 --> 03:40:59,487 -Just being a few years ahead of your time 5406 03:40:59,591 --> 03:41:01,213 is still significant, 5407 03:41:01,317 --> 03:41:02,732 and may have been part of the reason 5408 03:41:02,835 --> 03:41:04,596 why the movie didn't do as well. 5409 03:41:04,699 --> 03:41:06,736 -I'm so glad that over the years 5410 03:41:06,839 --> 03:41:09,946 that it seems to be finding a bigger audience. 5411 03:41:10,049 --> 03:41:11,430 -It's made an impact on, you know, 5412 03:41:11,534 --> 03:41:13,501 the LGBTQ+ community 5413 03:41:13,605 --> 03:41:15,400 in a way that I hadn't really anticipated. 5414 03:41:15,503 --> 03:41:18,679 -I'm very proud of -- of what Don created 5415 03:41:18,782 --> 03:41:21,785 with the idea of -- of this trans child, 5416 03:41:21,889 --> 03:41:25,237 and very proud to have my name on that. 5417 03:41:25,341 --> 03:41:26,894 -I am proud of that movie. 5418 03:41:26,997 --> 03:41:31,070 I stick a big middle finger in the faces of the people 5419 03:41:31,174 --> 03:41:32,727 who to this day, 5420 03:41:32,831 --> 03:41:35,937 will contact me on social media and call me a faggot, 5421 03:41:36,041 --> 03:41:40,045 and, um, you know, tell me I ruined my own franchise. 5422 03:41:40,148 --> 03:41:41,874 -Up yours, asshole! 5423 03:41:41,978 --> 03:41:48,571 -I feel like if people were offended by the queerness 5424 03:41:48,674 --> 03:41:52,644 and -- and how the queerness was received, 5425 03:41:52,747 --> 03:41:54,231 I think that was the point. 5426 03:41:54,335 --> 03:41:57,131 -I often devolve into defensiveness 5427 03:41:57,234 --> 03:41:58,788 when talking about "Seed of Chucky," 5428 03:41:58,891 --> 03:42:00,686 although, it's getting better as the years go on, 5429 03:42:00,790 --> 03:42:03,517 because it really does help to hear people 5430 03:42:03,620 --> 03:42:04,966 say that they like the movie. 5431 03:42:05,070 --> 03:42:07,693 And I didn't waste those years of my life. 5432 03:42:07,797 --> 03:42:09,695 -Great art sometimes takes time for people 5433 03:42:09,799 --> 03:42:10,800 to appreciate it. 5434 03:42:10,903 --> 03:42:17,185 ♪♪ 5435 03:42:17,289 --> 03:42:19,326 [Dramatic music plays, thunder cracking] 5436 03:42:19,429 --> 03:42:25,435 ♪♪ 5437 03:42:25,539 --> 03:42:27,679 -After 2004, "Seed of Chucky" 5438 03:42:27,782 --> 03:42:31,821 failed to bear Universal its hoped for box office fruit. 5439 03:42:31,924 --> 03:42:34,479 8 years would pass before the studio 5440 03:42:34,582 --> 03:42:36,584 finally showed interest in another dance 5441 03:42:36,688 --> 03:42:38,690 with their diminutive devil. 5442 03:42:38,793 --> 03:42:41,313 -So, after "Seed of Chucky," 5443 03:42:41,417 --> 03:42:42,970 you know the movie didn't do well. 5444 03:42:43,073 --> 03:42:46,698 So the -- the franchise kind of went fallow for a while. 5445 03:42:46,801 --> 03:42:48,596 -I was approached by Glenn Ross, 5446 03:42:48,700 --> 03:42:50,426 who heads up a division at Universal 5447 03:42:50,529 --> 03:42:52,117 for streaming called 1440. 5448 03:42:52,220 --> 03:42:55,569 And Glenn said to me, "I'd like to do a 'Chucky' movie." 5449 03:42:55,672 --> 03:42:57,433 -They were interested in doing it 5450 03:42:57,536 --> 03:42:59,538 as a direct to video film. 5451 03:42:59,642 --> 03:43:01,816 -Glenn did not want Don to direct, 5452 03:43:01,920 --> 03:43:04,992 but there was no way that that was going to happen. 5453 03:43:05,095 --> 03:43:06,511 -It wouldn't have happened 5454 03:43:06,614 --> 03:43:08,685 if David Kirschner hadn't supported it. 5455 03:43:08,789 --> 03:43:11,101 -He either was going to make it with Don and I, 5456 03:43:11,205 --> 03:43:13,966 or we weren't going to make it, and they acquiesced. 5457 03:43:14,070 --> 03:43:16,106 -There were a lot of remakes happening, 5458 03:43:16,210 --> 03:43:18,868 "Nightmare On Elm Street," "Friday The 13th." 5459 03:43:18,971 --> 03:43:23,113 So, we did briefly discuss doing that sort of thing, 5460 03:43:23,217 --> 03:43:26,807 but I think both David and I were more interested 5461 03:43:26,910 --> 03:43:31,467 in a tonal reboot rather than a strict remake. 5462 03:43:31,570 --> 03:43:34,297 -[Screams] 5463 03:43:34,401 --> 03:43:39,060 -To me, this was kind of like the -- the series starting over. 5464 03:43:39,164 --> 03:43:41,580 You know, we're going back to the basics. 5465 03:43:41,684 --> 03:43:44,825 One doll, one environment. It's a horror movie. 5466 03:43:44,928 --> 03:43:47,931 -And it was going back to roots of -- 5467 03:43:48,035 --> 03:43:51,038 of just trying to do a scary movie. 5468 03:43:51,141 --> 03:43:55,387 The idea was, is that we had to go back to the first movie. 5469 03:43:55,491 --> 03:43:57,907 And again, Don went about that 5470 03:43:58,010 --> 03:43:59,736 in a brilliant way. -You know, we just said 5471 03:43:59,840 --> 03:44:02,808 "Well, let's -- let's do it scary again." 5472 03:44:02,912 --> 03:44:06,709 I took a lot of inspiration from Hitchcock's 5473 03:44:06,812 --> 03:44:10,298 one set films, you know, movies like "Rear Window" 5474 03:44:10,402 --> 03:44:12,818 and "Dial M for Murder" and "Rope" 5475 03:44:12,922 --> 03:44:15,649 and "Lifeboat" and "Lady in a Cage." 5476 03:44:15,752 --> 03:44:17,582 [Doorbell rings] -Hello! 5477 03:44:17,685 --> 03:44:20,274 -So, I came up with this story, and I thought of like, 5478 03:44:20,377 --> 03:44:22,863 "Who could be a new protagonist?" 5479 03:44:22,966 --> 03:44:25,313 -Someone imprisoned in their home. 5480 03:44:25,417 --> 03:44:28,178 -Over the years, people who don't like the franchise, 5481 03:44:28,282 --> 03:44:30,698 like Dee Snider, for example. 5482 03:44:30,802 --> 03:44:32,355 -Yeah, I remember "Child's Play." 5483 03:44:32,459 --> 03:44:33,839 It was a freaking joke and an embarrassment 5484 03:44:33,943 --> 03:44:35,669 to horror movies everywhere. 5485 03:44:35,772 --> 03:44:37,774 -Over the years, he would say, like, he hated "Chucky," 5486 03:44:37,878 --> 03:44:40,674 and one of the reasons was like, he could just kick him. 5487 03:44:40,777 --> 03:44:42,917 And I thought, like, "What if you can't kick him?" 5488 03:44:43,021 --> 03:44:46,024 -I think that that's where he did have the idea 5489 03:44:46,127 --> 03:44:49,096 that, uh, this would be a disabled woman 5490 03:44:49,199 --> 03:44:52,064 that's being terrified by some unseen force 5491 03:44:52,168 --> 03:44:54,239 that is coming from within the house. 5492 03:44:54,342 --> 03:44:57,829 -A disabled young woman without the use of her legs. 5493 03:44:57,932 --> 03:45:01,626 She is in a unique position of vulnerability to Chucky. 5494 03:45:01,729 --> 03:45:03,420 -It was like an old Hammer movie. 5495 03:45:03,524 --> 03:45:07,148 This is great. This is a haunted house movie with Chucky in it. 5496 03:45:07,252 --> 03:45:10,082 -As the franchise looked to explore a new story 5497 03:45:10,186 --> 03:45:12,844 and new direction, the question remained, 5498 03:45:12,947 --> 03:45:16,088 "Who would bring the wheelchair bound heroine to life?" 5499 03:45:16,192 --> 03:45:20,265 The answer, someone with Chucky already in their blood. 5500 03:45:20,368 --> 03:45:24,234 -Casting Nica was, you know, one of the first challenges, 5501 03:45:24,338 --> 03:45:27,099 one of the first things that was important to do. 5502 03:45:27,203 --> 03:45:29,654 -So, I spent 6 years at MGM. 5503 03:45:29,757 --> 03:45:32,104 And when I left to start my own company, 5504 03:45:32,208 --> 03:45:34,313 I made a lot of friends, Lisa Gooding in particular. 5505 03:45:34,417 --> 03:45:37,627 She entrusted me with quite a few of the Universal franchises, 5506 03:45:37,731 --> 03:45:39,560 and then she introduced me to Don Mancini, 5507 03:45:39,664 --> 03:45:41,286 and it was like love at first sight. 5508 03:45:41,389 --> 03:45:44,910 -I saw a lot of actresses, because what I hadn't found yet 5509 03:45:45,014 --> 03:45:47,257 in the actresses that I had seen, 5510 03:45:47,361 --> 03:45:51,089 I wasn't believing any of them in the wheelchair. 5511 03:45:51,192 --> 03:45:52,987 -The character of Nica is so powerful, 5512 03:45:53,091 --> 03:45:56,612 because usually, um, you don't see an -- 5513 03:45:56,715 --> 03:46:00,305 an alternatively-abled, um, person in a lead role. 5514 03:46:00,408 --> 03:46:04,171 -And, you know, as it happens, I'm talking to Brad a lot, 5515 03:46:04,274 --> 03:46:06,932 because he's one of my main collaborators in all of this. 5516 03:46:07,036 --> 03:46:11,040 -Don called me up and asked if I knew of an edgy actress. 5517 03:46:11,143 --> 03:46:16,010 And I said, "You know what? I kind of do." 5518 03:46:16,114 --> 03:46:19,358 My daughter's actually is in -- is really good, 5519 03:46:19,462 --> 03:46:20,670 and she's kind of edgy. 5520 03:46:20,774 --> 03:46:22,879 He said, you should see Fiona. -Okay. 5521 03:46:22,983 --> 03:46:25,226 -The "Child's Play" franchise growing up 5522 03:46:25,330 --> 03:46:28,920 was just this thing that made me cooler to kids in school. 5523 03:46:29,023 --> 03:46:30,680 I've never been scared of Chucky. 5524 03:46:30,784 --> 03:46:32,717 Chucky just sounds like my dad. 5525 03:46:32,820 --> 03:46:35,927 -We were so excited when we -- when we put Fiona 5526 03:46:36,030 --> 03:46:37,756 into the mix. -I had been in "True Blood," 5527 03:46:37,860 --> 03:46:40,828 and I had done some independent movies. 5528 03:46:40,932 --> 03:46:42,347 -[Singing] [Clapping] 5529 03:46:42,450 --> 03:46:46,523 -She initially had been submitted by her agent 5530 03:46:46,627 --> 03:46:48,387 to read for the role of Barb. 5531 03:46:48,491 --> 03:46:53,738 -I auditioned for it, and then I got a, um, call back saying, 5532 03:46:53,841 --> 03:46:55,705 "Actually, we'd like you to read for Nica." 5533 03:46:55,809 --> 03:46:57,534 -Don knew it was really important 5534 03:46:57,638 --> 03:46:59,157 who he would cast as Nica. 5535 03:46:59,260 --> 03:47:01,055 And I remember one day, he was really excited, 5536 03:47:01,159 --> 03:47:04,162 and he sent me some footage of Fiona Dourif in his scene 5537 03:47:04,265 --> 03:47:06,371 and he goes, "This is the person I'm thinking of casting." 5538 03:47:06,474 --> 03:47:09,132 And I said, "Oh, my God, she's amazing. She's brilliant." 5539 03:47:09,236 --> 03:47:13,447 -And Don called me up and said, "You know, um, 5540 03:47:13,550 --> 03:47:15,138 there's something about her 5541 03:47:15,242 --> 03:47:17,244 that, um, I think she should play the lead." 5542 03:47:17,347 --> 03:47:21,973 -She also reminded me a little bit of Amy Irving, 5543 03:47:22,076 --> 03:47:24,872 who I always loved in those De Palma movies, 5544 03:47:24,976 --> 03:47:26,667 "Carrie" and "The Fury." 5545 03:47:26,771 --> 03:47:29,739 Amy just has, like, this vivid portrayal 5546 03:47:29,843 --> 03:47:31,603 of emotional trauma. 5547 03:47:31,707 --> 03:47:33,122 Fiona had that as well. 5548 03:47:33,225 --> 03:47:36,919 -I was excited by it. I was terrified to be in it. 5549 03:47:37,022 --> 03:47:38,852 But yeah, I was excited to make it. 5550 03:47:38,955 --> 03:47:42,062 I was like, "This is very cool." 5551 03:47:42,165 --> 03:47:45,099 -With Chucky now poised to rise from the ashes 5552 03:47:45,203 --> 03:47:48,171 and raise hell once again, writer and director 5553 03:47:48,275 --> 03:47:50,795 Don Mancini worked to summon a team 5554 03:47:50,898 --> 03:47:54,074 to bring his vision and villain to life. 5555 03:47:54,177 --> 03:47:56,007 -We went and checked out Winnipeg, 5556 03:47:56,110 --> 03:47:59,976 and one of the first people I met there was Mike Marshall, 5557 03:48:00,080 --> 03:48:01,633 who was our DP. -We hit it off. 5558 03:48:01,737 --> 03:48:03,290 Don liked Winnipeg, 5559 03:48:03,393 --> 03:48:06,673 because it was kind of laid back, casual, and arty. 5560 03:48:06,776 --> 03:48:08,088 One of the things I said was, 5561 03:48:08,191 --> 03:48:10,090 "Let's secretly make an art film here." 5562 03:48:10,193 --> 03:48:12,989 -I wanted to do the Victorian house 5563 03:48:13,093 --> 03:48:14,784 that was kind of crumbling. 5564 03:48:14,888 --> 03:48:16,199 -The house was actually built 5565 03:48:16,303 --> 03:48:17,960 for one of the "Home Alone" sequels, 5566 03:48:18,063 --> 03:48:20,134 and then, they gutted part of it and added the elevator, 5567 03:48:20,238 --> 03:48:22,619 and then, made the whole thing look old and rotten. 5568 03:48:22,723 --> 03:48:24,173 -This cage elevator 5569 03:48:24,276 --> 03:48:26,831 that we had to have a forklift on the other side 5570 03:48:26,934 --> 03:48:29,316 with a winch on it, just pulled this thing. 5571 03:48:29,419 --> 03:48:31,214 So, that's what would bring it up and down, 5572 03:48:31,318 --> 03:48:34,217 because we couldn't afford to create a real elevator. 5573 03:48:34,321 --> 03:48:36,875 -[Laughs] -[Screams] 5574 03:48:36,979 --> 03:48:39,015 -A couple of things happened after "Seed." 5575 03:48:39,119 --> 03:48:43,261 We were told by archives, no one wants to do another Chucky film, 5576 03:48:43,364 --> 03:48:46,126 and everything has been thrown away. 5577 03:48:46,229 --> 03:48:48,093 All the puppets, all the animatronics. 5578 03:48:48,197 --> 03:48:52,995 -All the fabric to make the doll clothes and all of that stuff, 5579 03:48:53,098 --> 03:48:54,893 um, had been gotten rid of. 5580 03:48:54,997 --> 03:48:56,653 -Literally everything, we had to start over. 5581 03:48:56,757 --> 03:49:00,968 It was sort of a chance to prove that rod puppetry would work. 5582 03:49:01,072 --> 03:49:04,144 -We could transform the puppets from these, 5583 03:49:04,247 --> 03:49:07,043 you know, remotely-controlled dolls 5584 03:49:07,147 --> 03:49:09,701 to much more direct hand puppets. 5585 03:49:09,805 --> 03:49:11,461 -We did the whole business with guys 5586 03:49:11,565 --> 03:49:13,118 with sticks dressed in black 5587 03:49:13,222 --> 03:49:14,982 behind them that we're going to paint 5588 03:49:15,086 --> 03:49:16,363 out of the shots later. 5589 03:49:16,466 --> 03:49:18,365 -Shots are done with a puppeteer standing right 5590 03:49:18,468 --> 03:49:20,850 next to Chucky with a rod out the top of his head, 5591 03:49:20,954 --> 03:49:22,369 and that was a major departure 5592 03:49:22,472 --> 03:49:24,129 from all of the previous "Chucky" movies. 5593 03:49:24,233 --> 03:49:26,131 -When Brad does the line recording, 5594 03:49:26,235 --> 03:49:28,064 we would ask them to film him, 5595 03:49:28,168 --> 03:49:31,654 because we really focused on the body language. 5596 03:49:31,758 --> 03:49:34,415 -You can't call this living. 5597 03:49:34,519 --> 03:49:37,349 -And tried to match his gesturing and stuff like that. 5598 03:49:37,453 --> 03:49:40,283 -You can see my -- my dad's gesticulations 5599 03:49:40,387 --> 03:49:43,908 or whatever, in like a 3 ft, [Laughs], 5600 03:49:44,011 --> 03:49:46,496 you know, plastic doll, which is really interesting. 5601 03:49:46,600 --> 03:49:51,156 -I had never seen the doll work with puppeteers 5602 03:49:51,260 --> 03:49:52,537 and my voice. 5603 03:49:52,640 --> 03:49:54,711 [Laughs] 5604 03:49:54,815 --> 03:49:56,196 And it was delightful. 5605 03:49:56,299 --> 03:49:58,405 -With a new lead pushing the boundaries 5606 03:49:58,508 --> 03:50:02,271 of what had come before, and crew contracts inked in blood, 5607 03:50:02,374 --> 03:50:05,377 the old dark house was ready to welcome its guests 5608 03:50:05,481 --> 03:50:12,005 as "Curse of Chucky" began filming on September 5, 2012. 5609 03:50:12,108 --> 03:50:14,110 -The discovery of my mother dead. 5610 03:50:14,214 --> 03:50:18,459 It was horrifying. I remember I lost my voice a couple times. 5611 03:50:18,563 --> 03:50:20,220 -Oh, my God! -Don called me 5612 03:50:20,323 --> 03:50:22,118 and actually asked me if I wanted 5613 03:50:22,222 --> 03:50:25,259 to play Nica's mother, and I was like, "Yeah." 5614 03:50:25,363 --> 03:50:27,227 Count me in, I'll do that. This is exciting. 5615 03:50:27,330 --> 03:50:29,125 I'm really happy to come back to the franchise, 5616 03:50:29,229 --> 03:50:31,196 even if it's not as Kyle, and then, they couldn't do it, 5617 03:50:31,300 --> 03:50:34,544 because they had to hire a Canadian actress. 5618 03:50:34,648 --> 03:50:36,443 -Well, I think one of my favorite bits as the DP 5619 03:50:36,546 --> 03:50:38,894 is the first time the family comes to the house 5620 03:50:38,997 --> 03:50:40,067 and they come inside. 5621 03:50:40,171 --> 03:50:41,689 -From the moment Danielle Bisutti 5622 03:50:41,793 --> 03:50:43,933 came in to read for the role of Barb, 5623 03:50:44,037 --> 03:50:46,971 I thought, "Oh, my God. We have our Barb." 5624 03:50:47,074 --> 03:50:53,080 She is an amazing mixture of bougie, 5625 03:50:53,184 --> 03:50:57,326 decisive, alpha, and sexy. 5626 03:50:57,429 --> 03:51:01,088 My uncle Tony Thomopoulos worked for United Artists. 5627 03:51:01,192 --> 03:51:02,987 I do remember as a little girl 5628 03:51:03,090 --> 03:51:05,575 walking down the stairs into their theater room, 5629 03:51:05,679 --> 03:51:09,165 and there was that iconic poster of "Child's Play," 5630 03:51:09,269 --> 03:51:11,754 and that poster would haunt me. 5631 03:51:11,858 --> 03:51:15,482 -Danielle Bisutti, loved her. -She's an excellent actress. 5632 03:51:15,585 --> 03:51:18,416 -We're gonna have to send Alice to public school. 5633 03:51:18,519 --> 03:51:21,005 -And she's so had her heart set on Saint Bridget's. 5634 03:51:21,108 --> 03:51:22,765 -And I don't want to deprive my child. 5635 03:51:22,869 --> 03:51:26,665 -Barb has one thing. It's an agenda. Okay? 5636 03:51:26,769 --> 03:51:28,253 And fabulous hair. 5637 03:51:28,357 --> 03:51:30,083 -I loved working with Danielle Bisutti. 5638 03:51:30,186 --> 03:51:32,050 She uses Father Frank as a prop. 5639 03:51:32,154 --> 03:51:34,950 It was interesting that Don Mancini decided 5640 03:51:35,053 --> 03:51:37,435 to bring Father Frank into the -- the story 5641 03:51:37,538 --> 03:51:40,921 and have him function from that point of view, the appetites, 5642 03:51:41,025 --> 03:51:43,061 the needs, the agenda of the church. 5643 03:51:43,165 --> 03:51:45,063 -I had been a particular fan 5644 03:51:45,167 --> 03:51:48,411 of A Martinez's performance in "She-Devil." 5645 03:51:48,515 --> 03:51:52,139 He's really hilarious in that movie, 5646 03:51:52,243 --> 03:51:54,693 and he has this really funny line. 5647 03:51:54,797 --> 03:51:56,833 -I may be the butler. 5648 03:51:56,937 --> 03:51:58,352 But I'm not the maid. 5649 03:51:58,456 --> 03:52:00,009 -He would sometimes even do it to me, 5650 03:52:00,113 --> 03:52:02,080 because he knew I would laugh at it. 5651 03:52:02,184 --> 03:52:06,498 -A Martinez is such a pro. He's so calm. 5652 03:52:06,602 --> 03:52:11,158 -I was so excited when the studio said yes to A Martinez. 5653 03:52:11,262 --> 03:52:12,642 -My mom watched soaps my whole life 5654 03:52:12,746 --> 03:52:14,265 and was like obsessed with him, and I told her, 5655 03:52:14,368 --> 03:52:16,819 I said, "I'm working with A Martinez today." 5656 03:52:16,923 --> 03:52:19,960 And she felt I had -- I had arrived. 5657 03:52:20,064 --> 03:52:21,686 Is that a new chair? 5658 03:52:21,789 --> 03:52:23,999 -Uh, yeah. [Chuckles] -It's cool. 5659 03:52:24,102 --> 03:52:26,553 -Brennan has an amazing strength, 5660 03:52:26,656 --> 03:52:31,351 and he's a wonderful mixture of soulfulness and virility. 5661 03:52:31,454 --> 03:52:33,663 -Barb does wear the pants in the family. 5662 03:52:33,767 --> 03:52:37,529 Ian was always the shrinking violet in the relationship. 5663 03:52:37,633 --> 03:52:39,290 -So, I was doing my thing, 5664 03:52:39,393 --> 03:52:41,085 getting to that place of feeling kind of broken down 5665 03:52:41,188 --> 03:52:43,052 as a father. -Brennan was like 5666 03:52:43,156 --> 03:52:46,676 another incredibly experienced TV actor. 5667 03:52:46,780 --> 03:52:49,403 There was nothing he couldn't do. 5668 03:52:49,507 --> 03:52:50,957 -Come here you. 5669 03:52:51,060 --> 03:52:55,271 -Summer Howell was just this sweet, angelic, 5670 03:52:55,375 --> 03:52:57,446 professional, uh, little actress. 5671 03:52:57,549 --> 03:53:00,138 I think she was probably 6 or 7. -It was actually 5672 03:53:00,242 --> 03:53:03,314 my second audition ever, so, I was very new to it. 5673 03:53:03,417 --> 03:53:05,419 And honestly, I was so young 5674 03:53:05,523 --> 03:53:09,527 and didn't know anything about horror to begin with. 5675 03:53:09,630 --> 03:53:11,149 Never mind "Chucky." 5676 03:53:11,253 --> 03:53:13,151 So, I had no idea what I was getting myself into. 5677 03:53:13,255 --> 03:53:15,222 -Summer did a really wonderful job. 5678 03:53:15,326 --> 03:53:17,569 She is an amazing little girl 5679 03:53:17,673 --> 03:53:19,502 that had so much depth and maturity. 5680 03:53:19,606 --> 03:53:24,335 -I just got to be myself and a young kid excited to explore, 5681 03:53:24,438 --> 03:53:26,095 meet my new friend Chucky. 5682 03:53:26,199 --> 03:53:27,994 Great, let's get cooking. 5683 03:53:28,097 --> 03:53:30,134 -Oh, dear God in heaven. The chili scene. 5684 03:53:30,237 --> 03:53:32,446 -Everybody's having dinner and Don has a camera above 5685 03:53:32,550 --> 03:53:35,725 that is slowly moving around the table. 5686 03:53:35,829 --> 03:53:40,282 -That was a concept that I had actually put into a script 5687 03:53:40,385 --> 03:53:43,561 I had written for this movie, "Cellar Dweller." 5688 03:53:43,664 --> 03:53:46,012 It didn't make it into "Cellar Dweller," 5689 03:53:46,115 --> 03:53:47,979 so, I put it into "Curse of Chucky." 5690 03:53:48,083 --> 03:53:49,532 -The rotating, of course, 5691 03:53:49,636 --> 03:53:51,051 was the hardest part, because we had barely 5692 03:53:51,155 --> 03:53:52,466 enough room to get all the equipment 5693 03:53:52,570 --> 03:53:54,296 and lenses and all the stuff up there. 5694 03:53:54,399 --> 03:53:57,057 -And it visually evokes the feeling of a gun barrel. 5695 03:53:57,161 --> 03:53:59,197 -It's like Russian roulette with chili. 5696 03:53:59,301 --> 03:54:01,441 -We spent a lot of time shooting all that stuff. 5697 03:54:01,544 --> 03:54:03,305 -I think that scene took 2 days to shoot. 5698 03:54:03,408 --> 03:54:06,653 -And that had lots of footage. 5699 03:54:06,756 --> 03:54:08,379 And lots of choices. 5700 03:54:08,482 --> 03:54:15,041 -He creates this agonizing slow burn of -- of... 5701 03:54:15,144 --> 03:54:17,457 "Where is the poison?" -He, you know, 5702 03:54:17,560 --> 03:54:19,286 put all those false flags in there 5703 03:54:19,390 --> 03:54:20,977 to make you think it was the girl 5704 03:54:21,081 --> 03:54:22,703 or it was -- it was Brennan. -Yeah. 5705 03:54:22,807 --> 03:54:25,016 I felt like I was in a Hitchcock movie for a moment there. 5706 03:54:25,120 --> 03:54:26,362 -That's the stuff that -- 5707 03:54:26,466 --> 03:54:28,675 that gives the kills more of a payoff. 5708 03:54:28,778 --> 03:54:30,401 -Though, in the first second, you're going, 5709 03:54:30,504 --> 03:54:31,885 "Well, who gets this?" Then, you realize, "Okay, 5710 03:54:31,988 --> 03:54:33,507 obviously, A Martinez's character." 5711 03:54:33,611 --> 03:54:35,233 -We're waiting for the bead of sweat to appear 5712 03:54:35,337 --> 03:54:39,548 on Father Frank's forehead. 5713 03:54:39,651 --> 03:54:41,791 I've died many times, and this was my favorite, 5714 03:54:41,895 --> 03:54:46,969 because I think it's just the most, um, indelible. 5715 03:54:47,073 --> 03:54:48,798 -He's my sponsor. 5716 03:54:48,902 --> 03:54:51,007 -Stanton, you're gonna need a drink after you see this. 5717 03:54:51,111 --> 03:54:53,665 -When I first started working with A Martinez, there's this -- 5718 03:54:53,769 --> 03:54:56,427 The star power that kind of radiates off of him. 5719 03:54:56,530 --> 03:54:58,981 I think for Officer Stanton, he was a lot like I was, actually. 5720 03:54:59,085 --> 03:55:00,672 Uh, he wasn't really sure what he was doing. 5721 03:55:00,776 --> 03:55:02,536 -This was the film where I learned the lesson 5722 03:55:02,640 --> 03:55:05,263 that you do not do makeup effects 5723 03:55:05,367 --> 03:55:07,472 and animatronic effects on the same show, 5724 03:55:07,576 --> 03:55:11,304 or else your head will explode. 5725 03:55:11,407 --> 03:55:13,651 -First time, the blood squirted too intensely. 5726 03:55:13,754 --> 03:55:15,653 It was comic, you know, once my head came off, 5727 03:55:15,756 --> 03:55:17,655 there was a geyser of blood coming out 5728 03:55:17,758 --> 03:55:19,105 that was inappropriate. 5729 03:55:19,208 --> 03:55:20,658 -It was a little over pressurized, 5730 03:55:20,761 --> 03:55:23,454 and so, the jet of blood went way up in the air, 5731 03:55:23,557 --> 03:55:25,352 and it took out the B camera crew, 5732 03:55:25,456 --> 03:55:28,217 who were not prepared for a jet of blood, like 40 ft away. 5733 03:55:28,321 --> 03:55:31,255 -Just erupted on everything and everyone. 5734 03:55:31,358 --> 03:55:33,153 The camera was soaked. We were soaked. 5735 03:55:33,257 --> 03:55:36,052 -Luckily, the second take worked fine, 5736 03:55:36,156 --> 03:55:39,435 and that's the one we used. 5737 03:55:39,539 --> 03:55:41,334 -His death was great. -And you're like, 5738 03:55:41,437 --> 03:55:43,508 "Is that how they do that? That's incredible." 5739 03:55:43,612 --> 03:55:45,061 [Thunder cracks] 5740 03:55:45,165 --> 03:55:46,339 -Need a hand? 5741 03:55:46,442 --> 03:55:47,823 -Now, let's talk about Barb and Jill. 5742 03:55:47,926 --> 03:55:50,688 -You introduce the hot young nanny in the mix. 5743 03:55:50,791 --> 03:55:53,346 -I thought it was really cool that you assumed, 5744 03:55:53,449 --> 03:55:57,453 based on stereotypes, that it's Ian and the nanny. 5745 03:55:57,557 --> 03:55:59,904 -Actually, no. The mom's having an affair with her. 5746 03:56:00,007 --> 03:56:04,253 -The red herring that is my secret love affair with Jill. 5747 03:56:04,357 --> 03:56:05,979 [Smooches] The nanny. 5748 03:56:06,082 --> 03:56:07,636 -The twist with the nanny 5749 03:56:07,739 --> 03:56:09,845 was one of my favorite things about reading the script. 5750 03:56:09,948 --> 03:56:15,609 I was like, "Oh, how is this? Whoa! They made out." 5751 03:56:15,713 --> 03:56:17,163 -Whoa! It's Barb! 5752 03:56:17,266 --> 03:56:19,199 -And I remember Danielle and Maitland 5753 03:56:19,303 --> 03:56:21,615 were, uh, were -- were laughing about it, 5754 03:56:21,719 --> 03:56:23,272 and we're really excited to shoot it. 5755 03:56:23,376 --> 03:56:24,963 -I mean, you see how juicy her lips look. 5756 03:56:25,067 --> 03:56:27,138 We made sure we had our little -- 5757 03:56:27,242 --> 03:56:29,485 our little breath mint beforehand. 5758 03:56:29,589 --> 03:56:31,729 -What were Don's words, at one point, he -- he tries to put 5759 03:56:31,832 --> 03:56:34,766 a little bit more gay in every -- in every movie. 5760 03:56:34,870 --> 03:56:36,527 -Like, at this point, I felt like, "Okay, 5761 03:56:36,630 --> 03:56:38,425 we're the -- we're the gay horror franchise, 5762 03:56:38,529 --> 03:56:40,324 so we've got to do it somehow." 5763 03:56:40,427 --> 03:56:42,049 [Alarm ringing] -Coming. 5764 03:56:42,153 --> 03:56:45,984 -I had initially even, I think, toyed with the idea of maybe -- 5765 03:56:46,088 --> 03:56:47,779 maybe making Nica gay. 5766 03:56:47,883 --> 03:56:49,540 -One thing I love about "Child's Play" 5767 03:56:49,643 --> 03:56:53,785 is that it -- it -- it has this LGBT theme throughout it 5768 03:56:53,889 --> 03:56:59,515 and doesn't shy away from it and has fun with it. 5769 03:56:59,619 --> 03:57:03,347 -And then, Chucky takes both of them out. 5770 03:57:03,450 --> 03:57:07,005 He just dumps over the water, and that's it. 5771 03:57:07,109 --> 03:57:08,490 -I knew she was a hot number, 5772 03:57:08,593 --> 03:57:12,045 but I didn't know, like, that she was electric. 5773 03:57:12,148 --> 03:57:16,118 Too soon. Is it too soon? [Laughs] 5774 03:57:16,222 --> 03:57:19,190 Oh. 5775 03:57:19,294 --> 03:57:21,675 -When Danielle goes into the attic, 5776 03:57:21,779 --> 03:57:24,126 and she sees the Chucky doll there, 5777 03:57:24,230 --> 03:57:25,714 and she looks at it, she's staring at it, 5778 03:57:25,817 --> 03:57:27,371 and you're so scared he's going to jump out 5779 03:57:27,474 --> 03:57:28,855 and do something. -But then, of course, 5780 03:57:28,958 --> 03:57:29,994 I find the butcher knife. 5781 03:57:30,097 --> 03:57:31,789 [Ominous notes play] 5782 03:57:31,892 --> 03:57:33,929 It was like half of Chucky 5783 03:57:34,032 --> 03:57:36,518 and half of me and the blade. 5784 03:57:36,621 --> 03:57:41,350 It's so iconic and so beautiful. 5785 03:57:41,454 --> 03:57:45,665 -She is peeling, you know, his little makeup appliances 5786 03:57:45,768 --> 03:57:48,702 that he's put on to hide his stitches, 5787 03:57:48,806 --> 03:57:51,809 so that he can present as adorable. 5788 03:57:51,912 --> 03:57:54,950 -Scar Chucky is disguised as the Good Guy. 5789 03:57:55,053 --> 03:57:58,264 He's got a -- a sort of a prosthetic face on, 5790 03:57:58,367 --> 03:58:02,268 how Chucky learned prosthetics, I don't know. 5791 03:58:02,371 --> 03:58:03,786 -This is the iconic Chucky 5792 03:58:03,890 --> 03:58:06,617 coming back to wreak havoc once more. 5793 03:58:06,720 --> 03:58:09,344 -His need to dominate, his need to get revenge, 5794 03:58:09,447 --> 03:58:11,622 or his need to murder somebody 5795 03:58:11,725 --> 03:58:15,108 is actually so entrenched in himself 5796 03:58:15,211 --> 03:58:18,249 that -- that he -- that he will go 5797 03:58:18,353 --> 03:58:19,940 to the lengths that he goes to. 5798 03:58:20,044 --> 03:58:22,529 -We sort of took that story point and had some fun with it, 5799 03:58:22,633 --> 03:58:24,462 and did sort of like a plastic surgery 5800 03:58:24,566 --> 03:58:28,777 sort of vibe to the mouth, and the fans hated it. 5801 03:58:28,880 --> 03:58:30,744 They were just like, "Chucky doesn't look like Chucky." 5802 03:58:30,848 --> 03:58:33,644 And it's like, he's got a skin over his skin. 5803 03:58:33,747 --> 03:58:35,991 And here's a little hint that something's wrong. 5804 03:58:36,094 --> 03:58:39,339 But, uh, in hindsight, I think we went too far with it. 5805 03:58:39,443 --> 03:58:40,892 I think we had too much fun. 5806 03:58:40,996 --> 03:58:43,930 -And out of nowhere, Chucky just comes up and -- 5807 03:58:44,033 --> 03:58:45,656 [Both scream] 5808 03:58:45,759 --> 03:58:47,485 Even though, I've seen it a million times, I still jump. 5809 03:58:47,589 --> 03:58:49,556 -I may have wet my pants just a little bit. 5810 03:58:49,660 --> 03:58:51,903 -And then, her payoff was she got stabbed in the head. 5811 03:58:52,007 --> 03:58:53,422 -[Screams] 5812 03:58:53,526 --> 03:58:55,942 -Enucleation is what that's called. 5813 03:58:56,045 --> 03:58:58,289 [Imitates knife cut] You know, removing of an eye. 5814 03:58:58,393 --> 03:59:00,498 It's very disturbing, a little, 5815 03:59:00,602 --> 03:59:03,536 I guess, a little homage to "Eyes of Laura Mars," 5816 03:59:03,639 --> 03:59:05,469 and if not boon, well. 5817 03:59:05,572 --> 03:59:07,263 -It was literally just a dummy head 5818 03:59:07,367 --> 03:59:08,920 with a knife and an alignment, 5819 03:59:09,024 --> 03:59:11,060 so, it would go into the eye in the right place. 5820 03:59:11,164 --> 03:59:12,165 -And then, 5821 03:59:12,268 --> 03:59:14,098 popped out of my skull, 5822 03:59:14,201 --> 03:59:16,031 and then, tumbling down the stairs. 5823 03:59:16,134 --> 03:59:17,343 [Screams] 5824 03:59:17,446 --> 03:59:18,965 -And more time was spent trying to get 5825 03:59:19,068 --> 03:59:20,415 that eyeball... -Action. 5826 03:59:20,518 --> 03:59:21,968 -...to bounce down the stairs. 5827 03:59:22,071 --> 03:59:27,180 -In the perfect place for Chucky to squash. 5828 03:59:27,283 --> 03:59:28,423 It was a process, 5829 03:59:28,526 --> 03:59:30,804 uh, that was disgusting. 5830 03:59:30,908 --> 03:59:33,497 -Oh, my God. -[Breathing heavily] 5831 03:59:33,600 --> 03:59:37,017 -Nica, what have you done? -My big death scene. 5832 03:59:37,121 --> 03:59:40,193 -On paper, it didn't give it justice to the day I was there. 5833 03:59:40,296 --> 03:59:41,505 I was like, "You're serious? 5834 03:59:41,608 --> 03:59:42,851 This is the way we're going to do it." 5835 03:59:42,954 --> 03:59:44,197 -We did it. You know, old school. 5836 03:59:44,300 --> 03:59:45,647 It was really fun to plan. 5837 03:59:45,750 --> 03:59:48,995 -Say hi to the little woman for me. 5838 03:59:49,098 --> 03:59:50,617 -No, not the face! 5839 03:59:50,721 --> 03:59:53,793 That's his moneymaker! -How could you do it? 5840 03:59:53,896 --> 03:59:55,035 He's so pretty. 5841 03:59:55,139 --> 03:59:57,555 -It was going to involve the very simple reversal 5842 03:59:57,659 --> 03:59:58,970 of the camera thing. 5843 03:59:59,074 --> 04:00:01,663 -Then, we cut to a dummy head of Brennan 5844 04:00:01,766 --> 04:00:03,285 with a jaw that was removable. 5845 04:00:03,389 --> 04:00:04,976 -We did the head cast, which was awesome. 5846 04:00:05,080 --> 04:00:07,807 I wanted his mouth open wide and see his tongue. 5847 04:00:07,910 --> 04:00:11,224 -When the ax came down, the jaw could be pulled away, 5848 04:00:11,327 --> 04:00:14,020 and then, all the blood tubing would start to spurt. 5849 04:00:14,123 --> 04:00:17,851 It just went flawless, and I think we got it the first time. 5850 04:00:17,955 --> 04:00:19,543 -[Screams] 5851 04:00:19,646 --> 04:00:21,510 -It worked like a charm. -I've had people stop me 5852 04:00:21,614 --> 04:00:23,029 in airports being like, 5853 04:00:23,132 --> 04:00:24,893 "That's like the best Chucky death scene." 5854 04:00:24,996 --> 04:00:27,240 Like, because it -- it really looks really real. 5855 04:00:27,343 --> 04:00:28,966 -[Screams] [Squelch] 5856 04:00:29,069 --> 04:00:30,761 -I personally thought it was cool that Nica 5857 04:00:30,864 --> 04:00:33,384 was in a wheelchair, it was actually sort of a weapon 5858 04:00:33,488 --> 04:00:35,524 in her hands. -At different points, 5859 04:00:35,628 --> 04:00:37,457 it ended up being an advantage. 5860 04:00:37,561 --> 04:00:39,183 -Especially, seeing people in wheelchairs, 5861 04:00:39,286 --> 04:00:42,876 and the way that that device has been used, uh, in horror. 5862 04:00:42,980 --> 04:00:44,982 Um, we can think of characters like Franklin 5863 04:00:45,085 --> 04:00:46,639 in "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre," 5864 04:00:46,742 --> 04:00:48,054 even "Dream Warriors." 5865 04:00:48,157 --> 04:00:50,194 We have a character who is in a wheelchair, 5866 04:00:50,297 --> 04:00:54,129 and -- and it's also that thing where they are designed 5867 04:00:54,232 --> 04:00:56,303 to be weaker and to be victims. 5868 04:00:56,407 --> 04:00:58,789 -And this movie very smartly 5869 04:00:58,892 --> 04:01:00,515 decides, no, no, no, this -- 5870 04:01:00,618 --> 04:01:02,896 this character can more than fend for herself. 5871 04:01:03,000 --> 04:01:07,073 -It's fun to see a final girl who is other. 5872 04:01:07,176 --> 04:01:11,042 It's important, especially for people who feel other 5873 04:01:11,146 --> 04:01:12,630 in any way, shape, or form. 5874 04:01:12,734 --> 04:01:14,045 -I would imagine, much like myself, 5875 04:01:14,149 --> 04:01:16,910 seeing queer characters in Don's films 5876 04:01:17,014 --> 04:01:20,396 that aren't portrayed as victims or as weak 5877 04:01:20,500 --> 04:01:21,639 or, you know, freaks. 5878 04:01:21,743 --> 04:01:23,503 I would imagine that for -- for people, 5879 04:01:23,607 --> 04:01:25,298 especially people who use wheelchairs, 5880 04:01:25,401 --> 04:01:26,920 that was really special. 5881 04:01:27,024 --> 04:01:28,577 -I'm not saying that that had never been done before. 5882 04:01:28,681 --> 04:01:30,890 But it still was fairly rare at that point. 5883 04:01:30,993 --> 04:01:35,446 And I think it kind of speaks to both 5884 04:01:35,550 --> 04:01:37,793 Mancini's originality 5885 04:01:37,897 --> 04:01:40,727 and kind of social consciousness as a filmmaker. 5886 04:01:40,831 --> 04:01:42,695 -She's faced such hardships. 5887 04:01:42,798 --> 04:01:44,662 Chucky can't destroy that. You know? 5888 04:01:44,766 --> 04:01:46,215 -You can put a hatchet in my leg, 5889 04:01:46,319 --> 04:01:48,459 and it's not going to take the fight out of me. 5890 04:01:48,563 --> 04:01:55,086 -[Laughs] -[Screams] 5891 04:01:55,190 --> 04:01:58,089 -Fiona's near death in the wheelchair over the edge. 5892 04:01:58,193 --> 04:02:01,023 That was a big moment. It took a lot of planning. 5893 04:02:01,127 --> 04:02:02,508 -[Screams] 5894 04:02:02,611 --> 04:02:05,476 -So complicated, but so amazing. 5895 04:02:05,580 --> 04:02:07,927 -Charles. Come over here. 5896 04:02:08,030 --> 04:02:09,515 I want to introduce you to someone. 5897 04:02:09,618 --> 04:02:12,794 -The thing about, uh, Charles Lee Ray, 5898 04:02:12,897 --> 04:02:16,763 he was different in the sense that he became -- 5899 04:02:16,867 --> 04:02:19,248 He became fascinated with the family. 5900 04:02:19,352 --> 04:02:20,595 -Hi, Daniel. Nice to meet you. 5901 04:02:20,698 --> 04:02:23,080 -And this is Barbara. 5902 04:02:23,183 --> 04:02:25,289 -[Laughs] 5903 04:02:25,392 --> 04:02:28,257 -It was very cool that my dad got to be in person, 5904 04:02:28,361 --> 04:02:31,329 and also the studio was very kind to fly him up 5905 04:02:31,433 --> 04:02:34,609 and let him stay an extra week, so that he could see me work. 5906 04:02:34,712 --> 04:02:37,025 So, it was this, like, really wonderful thing 5907 04:02:37,128 --> 04:02:40,200 for just the Dourifs to get to finally work together. 5908 04:02:40,304 --> 04:02:42,030 -You like 'em? 5909 04:02:42,133 --> 04:02:44,273 -It was really cool for me to be able to see 5910 04:02:44,377 --> 04:02:46,275 Charles Lee Ray come back on set. 5911 04:02:46,379 --> 04:02:48,830 -I think I found this in the process of writing, 5912 04:02:48,933 --> 04:02:51,936 because, you know, any kind of pressure cooker story like that 5913 04:02:52,040 --> 04:02:56,216 where you're dealing with just a duration of a few hours, 5914 04:02:56,320 --> 04:02:58,564 you know, you want to reveal secrets similar 5915 04:02:58,667 --> 04:03:00,358 to the Russian nesting doll metaphor. 5916 04:03:00,462 --> 04:03:03,741 It's like an onion that you keep peeling, or unpeeling rather. 5917 04:03:03,845 --> 04:03:06,744 -I've always had a thing... -[Gasps] 5918 04:03:06,848 --> 04:03:08,332 -...for family. 5919 04:03:08,435 --> 04:03:11,991 -It was cool to see him work in it. He was so creepy. 5920 04:03:12,094 --> 04:03:14,545 I think it was fun for him to -- to -- 5921 04:03:14,649 --> 04:03:15,857 to come back to a character 5922 04:03:15,960 --> 04:03:17,686 that he hasn't played in a long time. 5923 04:03:17,790 --> 04:03:19,032 -I didn't pay that much attention 5924 04:03:19,136 --> 04:03:21,794 to really who he was as a person. 5925 04:03:21,897 --> 04:03:23,485 I didn't make him specific. 5926 04:03:23,589 --> 04:03:25,936 I didn't worry about that, I didn't even think about that, 5927 04:03:26,039 --> 04:03:30,699 which normally, I'm way over the top on -- on doing. 5928 04:03:30,803 --> 04:03:34,807 -And now, you're the last one standing. 5929 04:03:34,910 --> 04:03:36,325 -It really is something 5930 04:03:36,429 --> 04:03:40,536 that, uh, is -- is a family legacy at this point. 5931 04:03:40,640 --> 04:03:43,401 [Groaning, Breathing heavily] 5932 04:03:43,505 --> 04:03:46,404 There's this moment that I wonder how many people clock 5933 04:03:46,508 --> 04:03:48,096 where I move my legs, 5934 04:03:48,199 --> 04:03:51,133 where I'm, like, crawling as fast as I possibly can. 5935 04:03:51,237 --> 04:03:54,827 And then, I have to -- I have to make it into this elevator 5936 04:03:54,930 --> 04:03:56,518 and, like, move my legs at the last minute. 5937 04:03:56,622 --> 04:03:58,002 I actually have to for the scene to work 5938 04:03:58,106 --> 04:03:59,832 or we do it like 30 more times. 5939 04:03:59,935 --> 04:04:02,317 This is the 27th time we did it, I -- Every time I see it, 5940 04:04:02,420 --> 04:04:03,905 I'm like, "Ah, does anybody -- 5941 04:04:04,008 --> 04:04:07,909 Did anybody catch that I moved my legs?" 5942 04:04:08,012 --> 04:04:10,014 You want to play, motherfucker? 5943 04:04:10,118 --> 04:04:11,050 Let's play. 5944 04:04:11,153 --> 04:04:12,810 -The moment that I love the most 5945 04:04:12,914 --> 04:04:16,538 is when they're facing off against each other. 5946 04:04:16,642 --> 04:04:17,919 And he's got his chin down, 5947 04:04:18,022 --> 04:04:19,645 and he's looking through his brows at her. 5948 04:04:19,748 --> 04:04:22,026 Just such great lighting, and it's so moody, 5949 04:04:22,130 --> 04:04:24,719 and it's so confrontational, 5950 04:04:24,822 --> 04:04:26,617 and -- and, like, really personal 5951 04:04:26,721 --> 04:04:28,584 and feels very emotional. 5952 04:04:28,688 --> 04:04:30,379 -[Screams] 5953 04:04:30,483 --> 04:04:31,691 -For that particular scene, 5954 04:04:31,795 --> 04:04:33,797 because I was screaming the lines live, 5955 04:04:33,900 --> 04:04:36,213 I was able to look Fiona right in the eye, 5956 04:04:36,316 --> 04:04:38,042 and she was looking at me right in the eye 5957 04:04:38,146 --> 04:04:40,079 as I was attacking her to kill her. 5958 04:04:40,182 --> 04:04:42,184 -[Grunts] -Frightening scene. 5959 04:04:42,288 --> 04:04:47,017 And it was one of my favorite moments in the whole franchise. 5960 04:04:47,120 --> 04:04:49,467 -We shot the courtroom scene at the very end of the movie. 5961 04:04:49,571 --> 04:04:51,124 I think it was like the last 2 days, 5962 04:04:51,228 --> 04:04:53,782 and Winnipeg had just become freezing. 5963 04:04:53,886 --> 04:04:55,750 [Chuckles] It was so cold. 5964 04:04:55,853 --> 04:04:57,234 -Filming the courtroom for "Curse" 5965 04:04:57,337 --> 04:04:58,822 was actually a lot of fun. 5966 04:04:58,925 --> 04:05:01,031 I think, we only had half a day in a real courtroom. 5967 04:05:01,134 --> 04:05:05,173 -We got, like, 150 background actors to come and do it, 5968 04:05:05,276 --> 04:05:07,278 and everyone was really excited to be around the doll. 5969 04:05:07,382 --> 04:05:08,901 -Well, the first time that I met Fiona, 5970 04:05:09,004 --> 04:05:10,523 I was incredibly intimidated. 5971 04:05:10,626 --> 04:05:11,835 She's the lead of this movie, 5972 04:05:11,938 --> 04:05:13,112 and she's also incredibly beautiful. 5973 04:05:13,215 --> 04:05:14,872 So, I just sat there in silence, 5974 04:05:14,976 --> 04:05:17,323 and just pretended I was in my own process as well. 5975 04:05:17,426 --> 04:05:19,221 But I was just sitting there super intimidated. 5976 04:05:19,325 --> 04:05:21,810 -I mean, he did such a good job as the cop. 5977 04:05:21,914 --> 04:05:25,434 I thought he was, like, so committed and -- and real. 5978 04:05:25,538 --> 04:05:28,575 -[Laughs] 5979 04:05:28,679 --> 04:05:30,232 I really didn't even think that Tiffany 5980 04:05:30,336 --> 04:05:31,578 was going to be in it. 5981 04:05:31,682 --> 04:05:33,028 So, I was very surprised when he said, 5982 04:05:33,132 --> 04:05:34,961 "Hey, Jennifer, we wrote a part for Tiffany 5983 04:05:35,065 --> 04:05:37,101 to come in at the end and you want to come in and do it?" 5984 04:05:37,205 --> 04:05:38,896 And, of course, I was happy to. 5985 04:05:39,000 --> 04:05:42,279 I feel like I'm kind of the mascot of the film. 5986 04:05:42,382 --> 04:05:45,040 -The tag with Jennifer Tilly made the movie. 5987 04:05:45,144 --> 04:05:46,939 She's indispensable to this franchise. 5988 04:05:47,042 --> 04:05:49,873 -When I got my throat slit by, uh, by Jennifer Tilly there. 5989 04:05:49,976 --> 04:05:53,877 She was, uh, remarkably calm about everything. 5990 04:05:53,980 --> 04:05:55,602 -And I was like, "I'm back. I'm back." 5991 04:05:55,706 --> 04:05:58,088 I made all these jokes, and then Don's like, "Okay, yes, 5992 04:05:58,191 --> 04:06:00,953 but didn't anybody tell you this is the scary 'Chucky' now?" 5993 04:06:01,056 --> 04:06:04,370 So, after I made all the crew laugh and everything, 5994 04:06:04,473 --> 04:06:06,337 he's like, "Okay, now can you just say the lines?" 5995 04:06:06,441 --> 04:06:08,857 -That was like my first inaugural kind of death 5996 04:06:08,961 --> 04:06:10,376 on screen, really, 5997 04:06:10,479 --> 04:06:12,309 that -- that amounted to any kind of blood. 5998 04:06:12,412 --> 04:06:15,450 And it was at the hands of Jennifer and a nail file. 5999 04:06:15,553 --> 04:06:18,729 -You know, when you have the fancy dish at the restaurant 6000 04:06:18,833 --> 04:06:20,524 and the food is in the middle, 6001 04:06:20,627 --> 04:06:23,389 and then there's little happy dribbles of color around it. 6002 04:06:23,492 --> 04:06:30,568 That's what Tiffany is in "Curse of Chucky." 6003 04:06:30,672 --> 04:06:32,053 -Chucky, you found me. 6004 04:06:32,156 --> 04:06:33,709 -Chucky, going into the child 6005 04:06:33,813 --> 04:06:36,747 opens up a whole new world 6006 04:06:36,851 --> 04:06:38,784 about what Chucky can do. 6007 04:06:38,887 --> 04:06:41,200 -I hadn't seen the doll with the scars 6008 04:06:41,303 --> 04:06:43,996 and moving and his mouth open. 6009 04:06:44,099 --> 04:06:46,722 So, that combination, I was not having it. 6010 04:06:46,826 --> 04:06:48,207 -She was scared of that doll. 6011 04:06:48,310 --> 04:06:50,450 -She was very frightened of Chucky and his face. 6012 04:06:50,554 --> 04:06:52,107 -I mean, she was very young. 6013 04:06:52,211 --> 04:06:55,352 And this doll obviously, it can -- it can be traumatic 6014 04:06:55,455 --> 04:06:57,216 when you first meet it. -Don, of course, 6015 04:06:57,319 --> 04:06:59,701 was very sensitive of Summer being afraid of the doll. 6016 04:06:59,805 --> 04:07:01,910 -We did hide his face, uh, 6017 04:07:02,014 --> 04:07:03,567 for her to get through those scenes. 6018 04:07:03,670 --> 04:07:06,432 -I was embarrassed that I couldn't, like, do the scene, 6019 04:07:06,535 --> 04:07:10,022 but they put a paper towel roll on his stick head, 6020 04:07:10,125 --> 04:07:11,678 and they drew a smiley face on it. 6021 04:07:11,782 --> 04:07:14,889 -We put a wig on it, and that was Chucky for something 6022 04:07:14,992 --> 04:07:16,545 that she had to interact with, 6023 04:07:16,649 --> 04:07:19,755 so that she didn't have to deal with the actual puppet. 6024 04:07:19,859 --> 04:07:21,274 -Package for you. -Really? 6025 04:07:21,378 --> 04:07:24,968 -Don was very keen to bring Alex Vincent back. 6026 04:07:25,071 --> 04:07:28,385 He really thought that it would be a great idea. 6027 04:07:28,488 --> 04:07:29,731 -And the studio was like, 6028 04:07:29,835 --> 04:07:31,284 "Who should we cast as Andy Barclay?" 6029 04:07:31,388 --> 04:07:34,943 And Don was like, "Well, Andy Barclay, of course." 6030 04:07:35,047 --> 04:07:36,738 He wanted to cast Alex Vincent. 6031 04:07:36,842 --> 04:07:40,155 And the studio said, "Well, hasn't -- he hasn't really acted 6032 04:07:40,259 --> 04:07:43,400 in 30 years," Don insisted. 6033 04:07:43,503 --> 04:07:44,711 -It must be my lucky day. 6034 04:07:44,815 --> 04:07:46,368 So, when I got the call from him 6035 04:07:46,472 --> 04:07:49,751 that he basically got the green light from the studio 6036 04:07:49,855 --> 04:07:53,617 to go ahead with his idea to bring me back, 6037 04:07:53,720 --> 04:07:54,998 uh, it was thrilling for me. 6038 04:07:55,101 --> 04:07:56,551 -And when he came out on the screen 6039 04:07:56,654 --> 04:08:00,762 when I was in the theater, the fans went wild. 6040 04:08:00,866 --> 04:08:02,350 They loved, loved, 6041 04:08:02,453 --> 04:08:05,801 loved that it was the original Andy Barclay. 6042 04:08:05,905 --> 04:08:07,182 It made it more real. 6043 04:08:07,286 --> 04:08:09,529 -I got to work with Don directing me 6044 04:08:09,633 --> 04:08:11,221 for the first time ever. 6045 04:08:11,324 --> 04:08:13,050 Oh. Hi, mom. How you doing? 6046 04:08:13,154 --> 04:08:15,363 Don had a couple of things that he wanted me to say 6047 04:08:15,466 --> 04:08:19,091 in that, you know, which, like, uh, "How's Mike doing?" 6048 04:08:19,194 --> 04:08:21,058 -I had no idea that Mike 6049 04:08:21,162 --> 04:08:24,165 makes a, uh, referral appearance. 6050 04:08:24,268 --> 04:08:26,201 And I'm very proud of the fact 6051 04:08:26,305 --> 04:08:28,755 that he's still kind of alive and around. 6052 04:08:28,859 --> 04:08:31,897 -God, it's great. I hope they're together. 6053 04:08:32,000 --> 04:08:34,520 -Also, I kept it a secret and lied to fans 6054 04:08:34,623 --> 04:08:36,729 for an entire year for that. 6055 04:08:36,832 --> 04:08:39,663 Play with this. -Andy. 6056 04:08:39,766 --> 04:08:40,975 [Gunshot] 6057 04:08:41,078 --> 04:08:42,459 -Filming on "Curse of Chucky" 6058 04:08:42,562 --> 04:08:45,117 wrapped and seemed to work like a charm. 6059 04:08:45,220 --> 04:08:48,844 Post-production began immediately with a conversation 6060 04:08:48,948 --> 04:08:50,501 between Don Mancini 6061 04:08:50,605 --> 04:08:53,401 and a composer with some serious horror pedigree. 6062 04:08:53,504 --> 04:08:56,024 -Working with Joe LoDuca is a dream come true. 6063 04:08:56,128 --> 04:08:58,440 I love the first three "Evil Dead" films. 6064 04:08:58,544 --> 04:09:00,132 -[Evil laugh] 6065 04:09:00,235 --> 04:09:04,308 -I was introduced to Don Mancini, um, by my agent. 6066 04:09:04,412 --> 04:09:06,276 Now, impresario, Richard Kraft. 6067 04:09:06,379 --> 04:09:09,555 -Richard, uh, suggested Joe, because he represented him, 6068 04:09:09,658 --> 04:09:12,730 and he knew that I would go, "Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yes." 6069 04:09:12,834 --> 04:09:14,215 -When I saw the film, I remembered 6070 04:09:14,318 --> 04:09:18,012 from Saturday morning television a B-movie 6071 04:09:18,115 --> 04:09:20,738 called "Lady in a Cage," and I brought that reference 6072 04:09:20,842 --> 04:09:22,223 up to Don, and he said, 6073 04:09:22,326 --> 04:09:24,156 "That's where I got the idea for the elevator." 6074 04:09:24,259 --> 04:09:26,020 -For the "Curse of Chucky" score, 6075 04:09:26,123 --> 04:09:28,574 it had to be an all-electronic score, 6076 04:09:28,677 --> 04:09:31,266 because we couldn't afford an orchestra on this movie. 6077 04:09:31,370 --> 04:09:33,406 -The first thing that came to mind for me 6078 04:09:33,510 --> 04:09:36,237 was to have sort of a demented jingle, 6079 04:09:36,340 --> 04:09:38,964 because Chucky's a toy, it's a toy doll. 6080 04:09:39,067 --> 04:09:42,864 Um, and I wrote it on a toy piano. 6081 04:09:42,968 --> 04:09:46,143 I, uh, adorned it with a "Chucky" sticker. 6082 04:09:46,247 --> 04:09:49,802 -I loved the "Chucky" theme that he composed. 6083 04:09:49,905 --> 04:09:52,218 [Chucky theme plays] 6084 04:09:52,322 --> 04:09:56,429 ♪♪ 6085 04:09:56,533 --> 04:10:01,055 I love him to death, and I love working with him. 6086 04:10:01,158 --> 04:10:04,817 -Something like that. 6087 04:10:04,920 --> 04:10:06,336 -Originally, "Curse of Chucky" 6088 04:10:06,439 --> 04:10:08,752 had the little girl killed right off the bat 6089 04:10:08,855 --> 04:10:10,443 -In the script, 6090 04:10:10,547 --> 04:10:13,653 and my director's cut, Alice gets killed. 6091 04:10:13,757 --> 04:10:17,347 It was the first on screen kill that you saw. 6092 04:10:17,450 --> 04:10:20,143 -It was one of the more creepy, uh, scenes for me, 6093 04:10:20,246 --> 04:10:23,387 because, well, in horror, they go all out, 6094 04:10:23,491 --> 04:10:26,252 so, they have like thunder outside the window 6095 04:10:26,356 --> 04:10:28,220 and fake rain and lightning. 6096 04:10:28,323 --> 04:10:30,360 -That's where she says... -Chucky. I'm scared. 6097 04:10:30,463 --> 04:10:32,362 -For the first time, he comes to life, and he says, 6098 04:10:32,465 --> 04:10:34,467 "You fucking should be," originally, 6099 04:10:34,571 --> 04:10:39,300 what happens is then you cut to outside what we call, the tent, 6100 04:10:39,403 --> 04:10:42,199 and you just see the silhouette of, you know, going, 6101 04:10:42,303 --> 04:10:44,615 and then, blood go, [Imitates squirting]. 6102 04:10:44,719 --> 04:10:47,929 So, it's all very stylized and abstract. 6103 04:10:48,033 --> 04:10:49,413 -I blocked it out as a kid 6104 04:10:49,517 --> 04:10:52,175 and I just did it and it -- it looked great. 6105 04:10:52,278 --> 04:10:56,248 -But while we were in post-production, um, 6106 04:10:56,351 --> 04:10:58,284 there was another shooting. 6107 04:10:58,388 --> 04:11:02,254 -There was some massacre where kids had gotten killed. 6108 04:11:02,357 --> 04:11:05,188 -So, Universal became concerned about that. 6109 04:11:05,291 --> 04:11:07,328 So, we just needed to revamp things, 6110 04:11:07,431 --> 04:11:09,606 so that that character survived. 6111 04:11:09,709 --> 04:11:12,678 -We had to, uh, recut to get the girl 6112 04:11:12,781 --> 04:11:14,887 not killed and, you know, put her in a closet 6113 04:11:14,990 --> 04:11:16,302 and come back later or whatever. 6114 04:11:16,406 --> 04:11:17,855 -In the end, they settled on me being locked 6115 04:11:17,959 --> 04:11:19,581 in a closet by Chucky. 6116 04:11:19,685 --> 04:11:21,135 That's what I was told 6117 04:11:21,238 --> 04:11:23,344 that he just hid me away until the end of the movie. 6118 04:11:23,447 --> 04:11:27,175 So, yeah, I was just chilling in a closet. 6119 04:11:27,279 --> 04:11:30,213 -"Curse of Chucky" was the first film in the franchise 6120 04:11:30,316 --> 04:11:33,250 to be released straight to video, store shelves, 6121 04:11:33,354 --> 04:11:36,081 home televisions, and even the cast and crew 6122 04:11:36,184 --> 04:11:38,704 were put under Chucky's latest spell 6123 04:11:38,807 --> 04:11:41,465 on August 2nd, 2013. 6124 04:11:41,569 --> 04:11:43,536 -The studio was incredibly pleased. 6125 04:11:43,640 --> 04:11:46,332 I don't think they realized quite what they had 6126 04:11:46,436 --> 04:11:47,989 till they released it, 6127 04:11:48,093 --> 04:11:51,234 and then just the response was enormous. 6128 04:11:51,337 --> 04:11:53,167 -It came out really, really well. 6129 04:11:53,270 --> 04:11:55,134 -The "Curse of Chucky" 6130 04:11:55,238 --> 04:11:57,447 got the best reviews of the franchise 6131 04:11:57,550 --> 04:12:00,243 really, since the first one, I think, 6132 04:12:00,346 --> 04:12:02,383 and to a certain degree, rightfully so. 6133 04:12:02,486 --> 04:12:04,626 Because it's a really, really good movie. 6134 04:12:04,730 --> 04:12:07,284 -The reviews were really good, and the movie was successful. 6135 04:12:07,388 --> 04:12:10,045 -Given the big swings that -- that you -- 6136 04:12:10,149 --> 04:12:12,565 are -- are happening in "Bride" and "Seed," 6137 04:12:12,669 --> 04:12:15,120 there is something about taking it all back 6138 04:12:15,223 --> 04:12:17,225 to basics that feels refreshing. 6139 04:12:17,329 --> 04:12:19,158 -"Curse of Chucky" 6140 04:12:19,262 --> 04:12:21,747 is a strangely beautiful movie in a way. 6141 04:12:21,850 --> 04:12:23,887 Even though, it's -- it's horror, and there are shocks 6142 04:12:23,990 --> 04:12:27,270 and twists and turns and crazies all over the place. 6143 04:12:27,373 --> 04:12:29,479 I think that that sort of haunted beauty 6144 04:12:29,582 --> 04:12:31,205 of the music sticks with me. 6145 04:12:31,308 --> 04:12:34,000 -I got to do a classic horror movie 6146 04:12:34,104 --> 04:12:36,693 and do it with a classic, iconic character. 6147 04:12:36,796 --> 04:12:38,315 -I'm very proud and proud 6148 04:12:38,419 --> 04:12:40,283 in all the things that it can possibly mean. 6149 04:12:40,386 --> 04:12:42,112 It was an artistic achievement, 6150 04:12:42,216 --> 04:12:43,458 because you got asked to do something, 6151 04:12:43,562 --> 04:12:45,736 to be part of the cultural references. 6152 04:12:45,840 --> 04:12:48,118 You get to be part of the modern culture, 6153 04:12:48,222 --> 04:12:49,637 and that's the ultimate reward. 6154 04:12:49,740 --> 04:12:51,501 -I had a lot of fun. 6155 04:12:51,604 --> 04:12:53,503 I met a lot of good people. 6156 04:12:53,606 --> 04:12:56,333 It was just, all in all, a really wonderful experience. 6157 04:12:56,437 --> 04:12:59,336 -I'm proud to be a part of it, but it was well received, 6158 04:12:59,440 --> 04:13:01,580 because it's a really well-made movie. 6159 04:13:01,683 --> 04:13:03,513 Everything about it is up to snuff. 6160 04:13:03,616 --> 04:13:06,378 I got to say, I'm really glad that I got asked. 6161 04:13:06,481 --> 04:13:08,173 -It was an honor to be a part of that project 6162 04:13:08,276 --> 04:13:09,933 and be a part of the "Chucky" universe, 6163 04:13:10,036 --> 04:13:11,762 and just really honored and proud to have been a part of it. 6164 04:13:11,866 --> 04:13:13,730 -It is a little bit like being in a time capsule, 6165 04:13:13,833 --> 04:13:16,284 because I'm the sixth in the tapestry 6166 04:13:16,388 --> 04:13:18,597 of this beautiful horror franchise, 6167 04:13:18,700 --> 04:13:21,703 and the moment where it returned to its roots 6168 04:13:21,807 --> 04:13:24,189 and such an iconic moment that the fans loved. 6169 04:13:24,292 --> 04:13:26,743 And so, I felt really lucky to be a part 6170 04:13:26,846 --> 04:13:28,365 of that particular story. 6171 04:13:28,469 --> 04:13:32,542 -It was so fun, and I'm so grateful 6172 04:13:32,645 --> 04:13:37,202 that it was my first role, and the people were so amazing, 6173 04:13:37,305 --> 04:13:39,549 and I got to work with such amazing actors 6174 04:13:39,652 --> 04:13:42,931 and learn from them, and learned that I really loved acting 6175 04:13:43,035 --> 04:13:44,312 and I wanted to pursue it. 6176 04:13:44,416 --> 04:13:46,659 So, thank you "Curse of Chucky." 6177 04:13:46,763 --> 04:13:48,489 -I love being a part of "Curse of Chucky," 6178 04:13:48,592 --> 04:13:50,698 because that's the moment where I realized 6179 04:13:50,801 --> 04:13:54,391 that Don was never going to relegate me to the dustbin, 6180 04:13:54,495 --> 04:13:56,566 and I felt like I was sort of his good luck charm, 6181 04:13:56,669 --> 04:13:59,396 and that he was going to put me in everything from then on. 6182 04:13:59,500 --> 04:14:03,193 -"Curse" really worked, a really brilliant way 6183 04:14:03,297 --> 04:14:05,575 of reinventing the franchise. 6184 04:14:05,678 --> 04:14:09,234 -"Curse of Chucky" was a wild ride 6185 04:14:09,337 --> 04:14:10,752 I got to make with somebody 6186 04:14:10,856 --> 04:14:12,996 who ended up being one of my closest friends. 6187 04:14:13,099 --> 04:14:19,520 I feel really lucky to have been accepted into the franchise. 6188 04:14:19,623 --> 04:14:23,248 -It's, I think, probably my second favorite movie 6189 04:14:23,351 --> 04:14:25,595 of all of them, "Bride" being first. 6190 04:14:25,698 --> 04:14:29,495 Both movies were successful reinventions of the franchise, 6191 04:14:29,599 --> 04:14:32,705 and I also think that "Curse" looks very beautiful. 6192 04:14:32,809 --> 04:14:35,087 And so, I felt redeemed as a director 6193 04:14:35,190 --> 04:14:36,502 in that way after "Seed." 6194 04:14:36,606 --> 04:14:37,986 -My word would be pride 6195 04:14:38,090 --> 04:14:40,920 to be involved in -- in a film 6196 04:14:41,024 --> 04:14:45,580 that looks like this film does in every sense of the word, 6197 04:14:45,684 --> 04:14:48,721 from Don's direction to production design 6198 04:14:48,825 --> 04:14:51,793 to Tony Gardner's work, the actors, and again, 6199 04:14:51,897 --> 04:14:55,763 Don subverted -- subverting an audience's expectations. 6200 04:14:55,866 --> 04:14:57,558 -I wonder if Dee Snider liked it. 6201 04:14:57,661 --> 04:15:05,013 -It's a doll. Step on it. It's over. 6202 04:15:05,117 --> 04:15:07,222 [Chucky laughing] 6203 04:15:07,326 --> 04:15:09,604 [Ominous music plays] 6204 04:15:09,708 --> 04:15:14,333 ♪♪ 6205 04:15:14,437 --> 04:15:16,887 -After six films over four decades, 6206 04:15:16,991 --> 04:15:20,339 Chucky's reign of terror didn't just continue. 6207 04:15:20,443 --> 04:15:22,721 It thrived, the next logical step 6208 04:15:22,824 --> 04:15:26,518 in the evolution of the franchise, start a cult. 6209 04:15:26,621 --> 04:15:28,278 -"Curse" landed, you know, 6210 04:15:28,382 --> 04:15:30,004 pretty successfully, pretty quickly. 6211 04:15:30,107 --> 04:15:33,628 So, the studio certainly wanted to do it immediately. 6212 04:15:33,732 --> 04:15:36,148 -It was one of their biggest successes 6213 04:15:36,251 --> 04:15:37,770 that division has ever had. 6214 04:15:37,874 --> 04:15:41,360 And Glenn Ross wanted to do another "Chucky" film, 6215 04:15:41,464 --> 04:15:43,086 which was exciting. 6216 04:15:43,189 --> 04:15:46,503 -I was not surprised to get the call for "Cult of Chucky," 6217 04:15:46,607 --> 04:15:51,266 because at that point, Fiona and Don Mancini 6218 04:15:51,370 --> 04:15:53,648 were fast, fast friends. 6219 04:15:53,752 --> 04:15:56,789 -Don wants you to explore another universe of taking Nica 6220 04:15:56,893 --> 04:15:59,516 into the world of a mental facility. 6221 04:15:59,620 --> 04:16:04,349 -Let's dive into the psycho ward subgenre 6222 04:16:04,452 --> 04:16:09,733 and have Chucky interact with people who -- who -- 6223 04:16:09,837 --> 04:16:14,255 Their own relationship to reality is not necessarily 6224 04:16:14,359 --> 04:16:15,739 well-tethered. 6225 04:16:15,843 --> 04:16:17,569 -I mean, what a great place for people to say 6226 04:16:17,672 --> 04:16:19,329 "A doll is talking to me," I mean, of course, 6227 04:16:19,433 --> 04:16:20,779 who's going to believe them? 6228 04:16:20,882 --> 04:16:22,367 -I wanted to aesthetically do something 6229 04:16:22,470 --> 04:16:23,644 very different. -Before it would 6230 04:16:23,747 --> 04:16:25,956 have been Gothic and -- and Victorian. 6231 04:16:26,060 --> 04:16:29,097 This, he wanted clean, modern lines. 6232 04:16:29,201 --> 04:16:31,962 -Let's make everything bright and make it almost, 6233 04:16:32,066 --> 04:16:37,382 like, black and white in color and very about angularity. 6234 04:16:37,485 --> 04:16:39,522 -And you have all of these characters 6235 04:16:39,625 --> 04:16:41,903 with lots of different issues and personalities. 6236 04:16:42,007 --> 04:16:46,943 And -- And Don is the conductor of this choir of bizarre people. 6237 04:16:47,046 --> 04:16:50,360 And throw a killer doll into that mix. 6238 04:16:50,464 --> 04:16:55,883 And there's just the havoc that is -- that is created from that. 6239 04:16:55,986 --> 04:16:59,507 -A new story cemented in the halls of a mental hospital 6240 04:16:59,611 --> 04:17:02,545 signaled it was time to get committed 6241 04:17:02,648 --> 04:17:05,306 to a fantastic cast and crew. 6242 04:17:05,410 --> 04:17:06,652 -I wasn't surprised 6243 04:17:06,756 --> 04:17:08,654 to hear "Cult" was going to happen. 6244 04:17:08,758 --> 04:17:10,691 Don had been talking about it during the shooting of "Curse." 6245 04:17:10,794 --> 04:17:13,003 I was very pleased to hear he was going to come back. 6246 04:17:13,107 --> 04:17:15,109 -I was super excited, and then when they said, 6247 04:17:15,212 --> 04:17:18,043 it was going to take place in an insane asylum, 6248 04:17:18,146 --> 04:17:20,494 I was like, count me in. -Don and I had talked 6249 04:17:20,597 --> 04:17:22,357 about his approach to the script 6250 04:17:22,461 --> 04:17:23,911 and what we were going to do. 6251 04:17:24,014 --> 04:17:25,809 -Don was talking about everything being against white, 6252 04:17:25,913 --> 04:17:27,639 very pale, washed-out palette. 6253 04:17:27,742 --> 04:17:30,918 -I think of it more as the "THX 1138" of the "Chucky's," 6254 04:17:31,021 --> 04:17:34,162 where everything's been stripped away a lot. 6255 04:17:34,266 --> 04:17:37,372 -Other references, "The Shining" is an obvious one. 6256 04:17:37,476 --> 04:17:39,374 "The Snake Pit." -Virginia. 6257 04:17:39,478 --> 04:17:41,100 Virginia, where'd you get that doll? 6258 04:17:41,204 --> 04:17:44,897 -I really felt like we had the team together, 6259 04:17:45,001 --> 04:17:46,934 and the machine was already going. 6260 04:17:47,037 --> 04:17:50,972 -We had a foundation to build from some preexisting stuff. 6261 04:17:51,076 --> 04:17:55,425 -It was far less of a -- of a zoo or of a circus. 6262 04:17:55,529 --> 04:17:57,254 It was much more of a bunch of people 6263 04:17:57,358 --> 04:17:58,704 who knew what they were doing 6264 04:17:58,808 --> 04:18:01,880 and were all on the same page. 6265 04:18:01,983 --> 04:18:04,641 -Tony Gardner contacted me, and he was 6266 04:18:04,745 --> 04:18:06,816 wanting a very specific look, how it looked, 6267 04:18:06,919 --> 04:18:08,542 you know, in the original. 6268 04:18:08,645 --> 04:18:10,336 And he knew that I had a lot of knowledge, 6269 04:18:10,440 --> 04:18:12,269 and I had made some dolls that were -- 6270 04:18:12,373 --> 04:18:13,685 that were very accurate, 6271 04:18:13,788 --> 04:18:15,790 and he wanted to get that look for "Cult." 6272 04:18:15,894 --> 04:18:17,792 -When I first read that there were multiple Chuckys, 6273 04:18:17,896 --> 04:18:19,414 I was more concerned about the shooting 6274 04:18:19,518 --> 04:18:20,968 schedule than anything else, 6275 04:18:21,071 --> 04:18:23,798 because there was only going to be one at a time, 6276 04:18:23,902 --> 04:18:25,800 and we'd have to figure out how to make things modular 6277 04:18:25,904 --> 04:18:29,873 and put a melted hand on one or a different wig on them. 6278 04:18:29,977 --> 04:18:31,841 -It was really important to Don 6279 04:18:31,944 --> 04:18:33,981 to create multiple Chuckys, 6280 04:18:34,084 --> 04:18:37,847 that there are other dolls out there with the same essence, 6281 04:18:37,950 --> 04:18:40,056 something that I -- I was really concerned about. 6282 04:18:40,159 --> 04:18:42,990 -I wanted to give Brad different things to do, 6283 04:18:43,093 --> 04:18:47,270 because I have this amazing actor at my disposal. 6284 04:18:47,373 --> 04:18:48,685 -Dividing the dolls. 6285 04:18:48,789 --> 04:18:50,342 That was going to be a problem for me. 6286 04:18:50,445 --> 04:18:53,379 And I -- And I thought, I-I need to figure out a way, 6287 04:18:53,483 --> 04:18:55,796 how to keep him different and the same, 6288 04:18:55,899 --> 04:18:57,970 because they never stop being Chucky. 6289 04:18:58,074 --> 04:19:00,904 -I was frightened to take away from the monster 6290 04:19:01,008 --> 04:19:03,320 that -- that for 30 something years 6291 04:19:03,424 --> 04:19:05,564 we'd worked so hard to create, 6292 04:19:05,668 --> 04:19:07,911 and were we taking away from the personality 6293 04:19:08,015 --> 04:19:09,534 of this character? -You know, 6294 04:19:09,637 --> 04:19:11,708 having different variations 6295 04:19:11,812 --> 04:19:16,023 on the Chucky persona for Brad to play with 6296 04:19:16,126 --> 04:19:18,301 was something I wanted to do in that movie. 6297 04:19:18,404 --> 04:19:20,855 -It was really, "How are we going to make this 6298 04:19:20,959 --> 04:19:22,581 happen in the time that we have?" 6299 04:19:22,685 --> 04:19:24,997 -So, I just thought, let's expand our mythology 6300 04:19:25,101 --> 04:19:27,828 a little bit, like -- like, let's give Chucky 6301 04:19:27,931 --> 04:19:31,625 the opportunity to jump into new bodies. 6302 04:19:31,728 --> 04:19:32,764 -Let's play. 6303 04:19:32,867 --> 04:19:34,144 When Don gave me the call 6304 04:19:34,248 --> 04:19:36,319 and said that he wrote me into "Cult" 6305 04:19:36,422 --> 04:19:39,874 in a supporting way with some really great stuff, 6306 04:19:39,978 --> 04:19:42,946 I was thrilled and filled with gratitude 6307 04:19:43,050 --> 04:19:45,086 and appreciation and excitement. 6308 04:19:45,190 --> 04:19:47,226 Who is this? 6309 04:19:47,330 --> 04:19:48,400 -Tiffany. 6310 04:19:48,503 --> 04:19:49,884 -With "Cult of Chucky," 6311 04:19:49,988 --> 04:19:51,714 I thought it was going to be another cameo, 6312 04:19:51,817 --> 04:19:53,163 and I was pleasantly surprised when I got the script, 6313 04:19:53,267 --> 04:19:56,132 because Tiffany is more of the storyline. 6314 04:19:56,235 --> 04:19:58,168 -Miss Valentine, I wish you had told me. 6315 04:19:58,272 --> 04:20:00,723 -Oh, didn't I? -Like every actor in the city, 6316 04:20:00,826 --> 04:20:02,414 you get auditions, 6317 04:20:02,517 --> 04:20:04,105 and they're always, very often, 6318 04:20:04,209 --> 04:20:05,624 under different names. 6319 04:20:05,728 --> 04:20:07,799 So, it didn't say I was auditioning for "Chucky." 6320 04:20:07,902 --> 04:20:09,904 It was some fake name. 6321 04:20:10,008 --> 04:20:12,079 But as I was reading it, it seems familiar. 6322 04:20:12,182 --> 04:20:14,909 And I started to guess it could be "Chucky." 6323 04:20:15,013 --> 04:20:17,532 -Michael Therriault is a really fun person to cast, 6324 04:20:17,636 --> 04:20:20,950 because he is the nicest Canadian 6325 04:20:21,053 --> 04:20:22,607 will ever meet in your life. 6326 04:20:22,710 --> 04:20:24,194 -Love, Michael Therriault. 6327 04:20:24,298 --> 04:20:29,614 He presents initially as someone very nice and caring, 6328 04:20:29,717 --> 04:20:31,236 which is what he is in real life, 6329 04:20:31,339 --> 04:20:34,619 but I knew that he would be able to sell that twist, 6330 04:20:34,722 --> 04:20:37,829 that he's actually so horrible 6331 04:20:37,932 --> 04:20:41,971 that even Chucky is a bit appalled and impressed. 6332 04:20:42,074 --> 04:20:44,801 -I don't know whether to kill him or just take notes. 6333 04:20:44,905 --> 04:20:46,976 -I think he really truly does want to help people. 6334 04:20:47,079 --> 04:20:49,599 -He's complicated. [Laughs] 6335 04:20:49,703 --> 04:20:51,739 -Don't misunderstand. I'm not a fan. 6336 04:20:51,843 --> 04:20:53,465 We're not going to be friends. 6337 04:20:53,568 --> 04:20:55,778 -So, my character, Carlos, the nurse, 6338 04:20:55,881 --> 04:20:58,608 which I'm very, um, honored to have played, 6339 04:20:58,712 --> 04:21:00,679 is based on someone that Don knows. 6340 04:21:00,783 --> 04:21:02,508 -I have a friend who lives in San Francisco 6341 04:21:02,612 --> 04:21:05,166 whose name is Carlos, and he's gay and he's a nurse. 6342 04:21:05,270 --> 04:21:06,823 -It kind of helped steer me a bit. 6343 04:21:06,927 --> 04:21:08,273 And then, I was just like, you know what? 6344 04:21:08,376 --> 04:21:10,896 I'm going to be me doing what I think is Carlos. 6345 04:21:11,000 --> 04:21:12,622 And that's either going to work for what they're -- 6346 04:21:12,726 --> 04:21:14,417 what -- what they're going for or not. 6347 04:21:14,520 --> 04:21:16,937 -We wanted to like him so that when he gets horribly killed 6348 04:21:17,040 --> 04:21:19,422 by three Chuckys simultaneously... 6349 04:21:19,525 --> 04:21:20,872 -[Screams] 6350 04:21:20,975 --> 04:21:23,495 -...that, like, we would care a bit about that. 6351 04:21:23,598 --> 04:21:25,704 -You think this is funny? 6352 04:21:25,808 --> 04:21:28,811 -No. I don't. 6353 04:21:28,914 --> 04:21:30,640 -I think I found out I got the role 6354 04:21:30,744 --> 04:21:32,469 when I was at a film festival. 6355 04:21:32,573 --> 04:21:34,989 I was so excited. 6356 04:21:35,093 --> 04:21:37,129 I was like losing my mind. 6357 04:21:37,233 --> 04:21:39,062 -Grace and I had known each other before, 6358 04:21:39,166 --> 04:21:41,237 so, that was fun to see her, the way she was playing that, 6359 04:21:41,340 --> 04:21:43,135 which was so different than her own personality. 6360 04:21:43,239 --> 04:21:45,655 -Claire's pretty with it, she's a bit like a black widow. 6361 04:21:45,759 --> 04:21:47,899 -So, she's a little unstable, 6362 04:21:48,002 --> 04:21:50,073 but you don't see, as much, her instability as much 6363 04:21:50,177 --> 04:21:51,696 as some of the other characters. 6364 04:21:51,799 --> 04:21:55,078 -I'm a schizophrenic. I see things. 6365 04:21:55,182 --> 04:21:58,703 -I love Marina, I was lucky enough to meet her in Winnipeg 6366 04:21:58,806 --> 04:22:01,050 during the production of "Channel Zero." 6367 04:22:01,153 --> 04:22:03,604 -Shooting in the middle of the night in the dark 6368 04:22:03,708 --> 04:22:05,537 at about 4 a.m., and I went 6369 04:22:05,640 --> 04:22:06,987 right up and said, "Hi, 6370 04:22:07,090 --> 04:22:11,232 I'm Marina," "I'm Don Mancini," he said. 6371 04:22:11,336 --> 04:22:13,234 And he was charming 6372 04:22:13,338 --> 04:22:15,167 and friendly and sweet. 6373 04:22:15,271 --> 04:22:18,377 -Then, I went off to make "Cult," and I thought of her 6374 04:22:18,481 --> 04:22:21,035 for that role as this woman who, you know, 6375 04:22:21,139 --> 04:22:23,969 has this funny encounter with Chucky where, like, 6376 04:22:24,073 --> 04:22:28,111 because of her own delusions, it ends up driving Chucky crazy. 6377 04:22:28,215 --> 04:22:29,837 -Aren't you the crazy bitch 6378 04:22:29,941 --> 04:22:32,150 I talked to last night on the phone? 6379 04:22:32,253 --> 04:22:35,809 -She had a sweet, uh, innocence. 6380 04:22:35,912 --> 04:22:39,053 But behind that innocence, this intensity of 6381 04:22:39,157 --> 04:22:43,678 someone who's -- who's really in another zone. 6382 04:22:43,782 --> 04:22:45,473 -Oh. She's harmless. 6383 04:22:45,577 --> 04:22:48,545 -So, Adam Hurtig, I had worked with on "Curse." 6384 04:22:48,649 --> 04:22:50,720 [Ominous notes play] 6385 04:22:50,824 --> 04:22:53,827 -Multiple Malcolm -- Mark, Michael, Charles, 6386 04:22:53,930 --> 04:22:55,656 whatever you want to call him, he's Malcolm to me. 6387 04:22:55,760 --> 04:22:59,349 He, um, he's a guy who feels inadequate with his own life. 6388 04:22:59,453 --> 04:23:02,180 So, he has to take on these personas of these, 6389 04:23:02,283 --> 04:23:04,734 uh, these greater than average people. 6390 04:23:04,838 --> 04:23:06,771 -And he -- he nailed all of these personas. 6391 04:23:06,874 --> 04:23:10,326 -Fiona, I-I don't think that she actually remembered who I was, 6392 04:23:10,429 --> 04:23:13,467 but it was this moment of, uh, "Hey, I'm Adam," 6393 04:23:13,570 --> 04:23:14,986 uh, "Lovely to meet you." 6394 04:23:15,089 --> 04:23:18,299 Uh, and then having her go, "Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah. 6395 04:23:18,403 --> 04:23:20,785 Okay, I remember you. You're the -- the cop. 6396 04:23:20,888 --> 04:23:22,717 That's cool." -It was great to see him, 6397 04:23:22,821 --> 04:23:24,340 like, flex his muscles like this 6398 04:23:24,443 --> 04:23:26,273 and get to do so many different things. 6399 04:23:26,376 --> 04:23:28,827 And then also, I got to have sex with him. 6400 04:23:28,931 --> 04:23:30,518 [Moans] 6401 04:23:30,622 --> 04:23:31,968 It's been really wonderful hearing 6402 04:23:32,072 --> 04:23:33,521 from the disabled community about it. 6403 04:23:33,625 --> 04:23:36,559 They're like, "Oh, my God, finally, we get to see, 6404 04:23:36,662 --> 04:23:39,942 you know, a -- a paraplegic woman, like, have sex." 6405 04:23:40,045 --> 04:23:42,876 Because by the way, we have sex. 6406 04:23:42,979 --> 04:23:44,084 -It's too hot for him. 6407 04:23:44,187 --> 04:23:46,983 -Elisabeth Rosen played Madeleine, 6408 04:23:47,087 --> 04:23:48,882 and I thought she was great. 6409 04:23:48,985 --> 04:23:52,989 Madeleine is a strange character and has a strange, 6410 04:23:53,093 --> 04:23:55,060 interesting relationship with Chucky. 6411 04:23:55,164 --> 04:23:57,718 -I like to be hugged. 6412 04:23:57,822 --> 04:23:59,409 -I can't believe he's talking already. 6413 04:23:59,513 --> 04:24:02,171 -You know, like that in itself is creepy. 6414 04:24:02,274 --> 04:24:03,828 -I literally, I called my agent and I said, 6415 04:24:03,931 --> 04:24:06,071 "I want to do something really unusual." 6416 04:24:06,175 --> 04:24:09,178 And she literally said, "Would you do a cool 'Chucky' film?" 6417 04:24:09,281 --> 04:24:14,942 -Elizabeth Rosen was, like, the perfect example 6418 04:24:15,046 --> 04:24:17,186 of just the, like, maternal, 6419 04:24:17,289 --> 04:24:19,567 but maybe a little Mommie Dearest. 6420 04:24:19,671 --> 04:24:22,847 -And you don't care. -[Screams] 6421 04:24:22,950 --> 04:24:24,469 -Mommy! 6422 04:24:24,572 --> 04:24:25,884 -[Breathing heavily] 6423 04:24:25,988 --> 04:24:27,092 When we got there, I said, "You know, 6424 04:24:27,196 --> 04:24:28,507 I want to dye my hair black." 6425 04:24:28,611 --> 04:24:30,061 -'Cause she's a blond. 6426 04:24:30,164 --> 04:24:33,685 And that kind of also gave a really interesting, 6427 04:24:33,788 --> 04:24:35,307 unspoken darkness to her. 6428 04:24:35,411 --> 04:24:37,102 -She was maybe my favorite character. 6429 04:24:37,206 --> 04:24:38,863 I loved watching her. 6430 04:24:38,966 --> 04:24:40,899 -With cast and crew locked in. 6431 04:24:41,003 --> 04:24:43,246 It was time to head to the asylum. 6432 04:24:43,350 --> 04:24:47,802 "Cult of Chucky" began filming on January 9th, 2017, 6433 04:24:47,906 --> 04:24:50,391 in a chilly Winnipeg winter. 6434 04:24:50,495 --> 04:24:51,979 -It's like, you know, 6435 04:24:52,083 --> 04:24:55,396 at times, -45 degrees outside. 6436 04:24:55,500 --> 04:24:57,088 It was insanely cold. 6437 04:24:57,191 --> 04:24:58,813 -Oh, my God, I've never been so cold. 6438 04:24:58,917 --> 04:25:00,712 -Cold, freezing cold. 6439 04:25:00,815 --> 04:25:03,991 -Much like Chicago in 1987, 6440 04:25:04,095 --> 04:25:06,511 I was freezing my ass off on a "Chucky" set, 6441 04:25:06,614 --> 04:25:07,684 once again. 6442 04:25:07,788 --> 04:25:09,548 -It is bloody freezing. 6443 04:25:09,652 --> 04:25:10,964 That's our real breath. 6444 04:25:11,067 --> 04:25:12,448 -When you're filming, and you're outside, 6445 04:25:12,551 --> 04:25:15,692 sometimes, in those conditions, it can be tough. 6446 04:25:15,796 --> 04:25:17,039 -The sets were beautiful. 6447 04:25:17,142 --> 04:25:19,179 It was all on a soundstage in Manitoba. 6448 04:25:19,282 --> 04:25:21,043 -Our production designer was unbelievable. 6449 04:25:21,146 --> 04:25:22,423 You get the sense that the hallway 6450 04:25:22,527 --> 04:25:24,218 goes on forever and ever. 6451 04:25:24,322 --> 04:25:27,014 It's such a subtle design but so beautiful. 6452 04:25:27,118 --> 04:25:29,499 -This hospital set was like a little maze, 6453 04:25:29,603 --> 04:25:32,123 and it was mind-fucking me in real life. 6454 04:25:32,226 --> 04:25:34,435 -I don't think I ever totally figured out 6455 04:25:34,539 --> 04:25:36,058 where everything was. 6456 04:25:36,161 --> 04:25:40,510 -It was a bit like living in a -- a nightmare. 6457 04:25:40,614 --> 04:25:43,099 And they'd go, "Okay, now, we're ready for you." 6458 04:25:43,203 --> 04:25:45,308 And I'd go down a hallway that I thought was taking 6459 04:25:45,412 --> 04:25:48,035 me to my doorway, and I was lost. 6460 04:25:48,139 --> 04:25:49,864 -What I love about the script, 6461 04:25:49,968 --> 04:25:52,453 and that how it throws to that sort of mental hospital thing, 6462 04:25:52,557 --> 04:25:54,248 you know, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." 6463 04:25:54,352 --> 04:25:56,285 That's great, and so, there's that line in there. 6464 04:25:56,388 --> 04:25:59,253 -Jesus fucking Cuckoo's Nest. 6465 04:25:59,357 --> 04:26:01,980 -"The Cuckoo's Nest" vibe was -- was very much intentional, 6466 04:26:02,084 --> 04:26:03,740 but it was also, uh, it was a challenge. 6467 04:26:03,844 --> 04:26:09,160 -It did have that, uh, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" vibe. 6468 04:26:09,263 --> 04:26:11,300 -Don loves skyscrapers. 6469 04:26:11,403 --> 04:26:13,785 -Don has a skyscraper fetish. 6470 04:26:13,888 --> 04:26:15,097 -He, uh, he loves them. 6471 04:26:15,200 --> 04:26:16,477 -Some people love Lamborghinis. 6472 04:26:16,581 --> 04:26:19,204 Some people love, you know, hot dogs. 6473 04:26:19,308 --> 04:26:21,137 Uh, he loves skyscrapers. 6474 04:26:21,241 --> 04:26:23,174 I just want to be able to protect myself. 6475 04:26:23,277 --> 04:26:26,453 -It opens with Andy trying to find that love. 6476 04:26:26,556 --> 04:26:29,559 He's been so scarred his whole life from this experience. 6477 04:26:29,663 --> 04:26:32,286 -"Chucky" has been in my life since I was a child. 6478 04:26:32,390 --> 04:26:34,288 It affected my whole life since I was a kid. 6479 04:26:34,392 --> 04:26:36,463 So, I have that parallel with -- with Andy. 6480 04:26:36,566 --> 04:26:40,467 -This experience has clearly had an effect on this guy. 6481 04:26:40,570 --> 04:26:43,435 In a way, he's kind of a vigilante of making sure 6482 04:26:43,539 --> 04:26:48,095 that no one else is affected the way that he was by it. 6483 04:26:48,199 --> 04:26:50,753 -Who's the only person in his world 6484 04:26:50,856 --> 04:26:52,927 who he comes home to -- to talk to? 6485 04:26:53,031 --> 04:26:54,584 It's not a healthy relationship. 6486 04:26:54,688 --> 04:26:58,450 -He's got all these tools and torture devices in trays, 6487 04:26:58,554 --> 04:27:01,212 in cabinets, you're just like super anal, 6488 04:27:01,315 --> 04:27:05,112 super organized, super efficient, and super messed up. 6489 04:27:05,216 --> 04:27:07,494 -The hunted did become the hunter. 6490 04:27:07,597 --> 04:27:10,876 -We had to basically shoot the whole scene first, 6491 04:27:10,980 --> 04:27:12,464 except for the blowtorch thing, 6492 04:27:12,568 --> 04:27:14,363 because we wanted to push it as much as we could. 6493 04:27:14,466 --> 04:27:17,228 And because the skin is silicone and heat resistant, 6494 04:27:17,331 --> 04:27:18,746 none of the mechanics fried 6495 04:27:18,850 --> 04:27:20,541 while we were shooting it, he was able to emote 6496 04:27:20,645 --> 04:27:23,130 and stay controlled, it looked great. 6497 04:27:23,234 --> 04:27:24,856 -Chucky had smell when you burn them. 6498 04:27:24,959 --> 04:27:26,340 It's really quite stinky. 6499 04:27:26,444 --> 04:27:28,377 -Nica isn't a danger to anyone anymore. 6500 04:27:28,480 --> 04:27:30,413 And let's not forget, she isn't the only one here 6501 04:27:30,517 --> 04:27:32,346 to benefit from an insanity plea. 6502 04:27:32,450 --> 04:27:35,487 -That was one of the fun things to do with this movie is, 6503 04:27:35,591 --> 04:27:39,595 you know, for -- to have people with mental health issues 6504 04:27:39,698 --> 04:27:41,735 respond to Chucky in different ways. 6505 04:27:41,838 --> 04:27:43,254 -As soon as Chucky is revealed, 6506 04:27:43,357 --> 04:27:44,703 we see everybody's kind of reaction. 6507 04:27:44,807 --> 04:27:46,981 -Angela just rises up 6508 04:27:47,085 --> 04:27:49,191 and lets them all know he's back. 6509 04:27:49,294 --> 04:27:51,400 He said to tell you he's coming for you. 6510 04:27:51,503 --> 04:27:53,022 -Grace's character immediately 6511 04:27:53,126 --> 04:27:54,541 doesn't understand what's going on. 6512 04:27:54,644 --> 04:27:57,164 -I love Claire, because she is trying to do right. 6513 04:27:57,268 --> 04:28:00,098 -She jumps up and she's going to come over 6514 04:28:00,202 --> 04:28:02,273 and comfort Angela. 6515 04:28:02,376 --> 04:28:04,413 -Elisabeth sees the -- the actual Chucky doll 6516 04:28:04,516 --> 04:28:05,966 as her -- as her daughter. 6517 04:28:06,070 --> 04:28:07,588 -He's my baby. -When she finds the doll, 6518 04:28:07,692 --> 04:28:10,695 it literally, it fills this huge hole in her. 6519 04:28:10,798 --> 04:28:13,663 -And Fiona is just, like, there's part of her that's, 6520 04:28:13,767 --> 04:28:16,149 you know, we can see that it's stirring below the surface, 6521 04:28:16,252 --> 04:28:18,116 but she is just stonewalling. 6522 04:28:18,220 --> 04:28:20,222 -Claire, why don't you come with us? 6523 04:28:20,325 --> 04:28:21,292 -Come on. -No. 6524 04:28:21,395 --> 04:28:22,672 -Carlos, in a way, 6525 04:28:22,776 --> 04:28:24,191 took Grace's character to her death. 6526 04:28:24,295 --> 04:28:25,813 But that's a "Chucky" movie, man. 6527 04:28:25,917 --> 04:28:27,953 -It's like, you know, a really creepy "Sesame Street." 6528 04:28:28,057 --> 04:28:29,645 So, it's like they've got puppeteers 6529 04:28:29,748 --> 04:28:31,578 doing all of the different things, it was like acting 6530 04:28:31,681 --> 04:28:35,271 with a human being, that was pretty amazing and surreal. 6531 04:28:35,375 --> 04:28:37,722 -She, by far, gets the nicest death 6532 04:28:37,825 --> 04:28:39,724 that I have seen in the -- in the "Chucky" franchise. 6533 04:28:39,827 --> 04:28:46,248 -Claire. Yes, who gets decapitated spectacularly. 6534 04:28:46,351 --> 04:28:47,801 It's not only the falling glass, 6535 04:28:47,904 --> 04:28:50,804 but the snow, because it's snowing outside. 6536 04:28:50,907 --> 04:28:54,290 -It's so horrifically gorgeous. 6537 04:28:54,394 --> 04:28:57,535 -My death scene was, I think, operatic. 6538 04:28:57,638 --> 04:29:00,400 -The whole death scene on the operating table, 6539 04:29:00,503 --> 04:29:02,264 there's like every version 6540 04:29:02,367 --> 04:29:04,887 of puppeteering performance possible. 6541 04:29:04,990 --> 04:29:09,305 There's people literally on every side of the camera 6542 04:29:09,409 --> 04:29:11,169 for so many of those shots. -I think, the scene 6543 04:29:11,273 --> 04:29:13,413 where Grace gets killed was sort of the hardest 6544 04:29:13,516 --> 04:29:16,140 to make feel real with the oxygen bottle 6545 04:29:16,243 --> 04:29:17,934 and the way that was going to fly. 6546 04:29:18,038 --> 04:29:19,488 It was heavily story boarded. 6547 04:29:19,591 --> 04:29:21,731 -In her death scene, like, take after take, 6548 04:29:21,835 --> 04:29:24,251 she was able to produce, like, a perfect tear 6549 04:29:24,355 --> 04:29:25,666 that rolled down her left eye. 6550 04:29:25,770 --> 04:29:27,841 I was, like, "How does this person do this?" 6551 04:29:27,944 --> 04:29:30,706 -And then the end of it, you're pulled right back 6552 04:29:30,809 --> 04:29:33,502 out of the, almost the poetry of that moment 6553 04:29:33,605 --> 04:29:36,746 by the head bouncing and landing at Chucky's feet. 6554 04:29:36,850 --> 04:29:40,336 -It's like a really terrible death poem, 6555 04:29:40,440 --> 04:29:43,615 but really, um, really, really beautiful. 6556 04:29:43,719 --> 04:29:46,653 And I think Don did an amazing job. 6557 04:29:46,756 --> 04:29:48,896 -Alice? 6558 04:29:49,000 --> 04:29:50,622 -We've been waiting for you. 6559 04:29:50,726 --> 04:29:53,315 I honestly hadn't even thought about my line, 6560 04:29:53,418 --> 04:29:55,938 like, being a foreshadowing moment. 6561 04:29:56,041 --> 04:29:58,561 So, like, seeing it now, I'm like, "Oh, that's cool." 6562 04:29:58,665 --> 04:30:03,635 -I was like, this is surreal and stylized and scary, 6563 04:30:03,739 --> 04:30:07,536 but also a little bit foreshadowing, for sure. 6564 04:30:07,639 --> 04:30:10,642 -Me, like, I was just this figure of Nica's imagination, 6565 04:30:10,746 --> 04:30:12,575 because she hadn't seen me for years. 6566 04:30:12,679 --> 04:30:15,129 -And then, you see somebody who was like 6 to 7 to 8 to 9, 6567 04:30:15,233 --> 04:30:16,683 you're like, "Oh, my God." 6568 04:30:16,786 --> 04:30:19,444 But yeah, it -- it was great to reconnect with her. 6569 04:30:19,548 --> 04:30:21,412 -Seeing Fiona again was great. 6570 04:30:21,515 --> 04:30:24,415 Uh, she's an amazing actor. She's an amazing person. 6571 04:30:24,518 --> 04:30:27,280 So, getting to talk to her again, even for only a day, 6572 04:30:27,383 --> 04:30:29,661 it was really nice to see her. 6573 04:30:31,422 --> 04:30:34,390 -Oh, God. -Elisabeth was down for it. 6574 04:30:34,494 --> 04:30:36,185 She knew that that was like a piece 6575 04:30:36,289 --> 04:30:38,429 of the disturbing picture 6576 04:30:38,532 --> 04:30:39,809 that we were painting here. 6577 04:30:39,913 --> 04:30:42,433 -The way I approached Madeleine was, 6578 04:30:42,536 --> 04:30:45,505 a lot of women have postpartum depression as well. 6579 04:30:45,608 --> 04:30:47,507 -I had the -- the shot as a bit of her -- 6580 04:30:47,610 --> 04:30:50,786 uh, an homage slash rip off of "Snake Eyes." 6581 04:30:50,889 --> 04:30:53,340 You're looking down at a honeycomb of rooms, 6582 04:30:53,444 --> 04:30:54,962 but we glide from Nica, 6583 04:30:55,066 --> 04:30:58,587 and we pass right over the top and without a cut, 6584 04:30:58,690 --> 04:31:01,314 now, we're looking down at Madeline in her room 6585 04:31:01,417 --> 04:31:02,763 as she's breastfeeding Chucky. 6586 04:31:02,867 --> 04:31:04,213 -I've had people stop me on the street 6587 04:31:04,317 --> 04:31:06,111 and say, "You're the girl," 6588 04:31:06,215 --> 04:31:07,458 but I think they're afraid to ask me 6589 04:31:07,561 --> 04:31:08,976 about that moment, it's okay. 6590 04:31:09,080 --> 04:31:11,289 -Elisabeth playing the role of -- of Madeleine, 6591 04:31:11,393 --> 04:31:14,258 what you kind of see is really her. 6592 04:31:14,361 --> 04:31:16,743 There's this haunting kind of presence. 6593 04:31:16,846 --> 04:31:20,367 Then, when we find out later that Madeleine 6594 04:31:20,471 --> 04:31:22,783 was driven insane by infanticide, 6595 04:31:22,887 --> 04:31:26,028 Chucky uses that to manipulate her. 6596 04:31:26,131 --> 04:31:27,616 -Wanna play? 6597 04:31:27,719 --> 04:31:30,826 -And the reenactment of what she did with the child, 6598 04:31:30,929 --> 04:31:33,898 it's like, oh, all right, now you got it coming. 6599 04:31:34,001 --> 04:31:35,279 Here we go. 6600 04:31:35,382 --> 04:31:36,901 -She can't live with herself anymore. 6601 04:31:37,004 --> 04:31:41,181 -She says, "Will it hurt?" And he says, "I'll do my best." 6602 04:31:41,285 --> 04:31:44,874 She has this masochistic need to be punished 6603 04:31:44,978 --> 04:31:48,568 for what she did to her baby. And here is her baby 6604 04:31:48,671 --> 04:31:51,536 come back to give her that ending. 6605 04:31:51,640 --> 04:31:55,575 -He's just supposed to play with his fingers on my lips. 6606 04:31:55,678 --> 04:31:57,335 And that's supposed to be the whole scene. 6607 04:31:57,439 --> 04:31:58,888 But we kept going. 6608 04:31:58,992 --> 04:32:00,787 And then all of a sudden, literally, he pushed -- 6609 04:32:00,890 --> 04:32:03,824 'cause the puppeteer was like, "Oh, no one yelled cut." 6610 04:32:03,928 --> 04:32:07,863 We literally -- the whole fist went all the way down my throat. 6611 04:32:07,966 --> 04:32:09,313 -Aaah! 6612 04:32:09,416 --> 04:32:11,556 -I remember just thinking in my mind like, 6613 04:32:11,660 --> 04:32:13,627 don't freak out. It's all good. 6614 04:32:13,731 --> 04:32:17,286 -Chucky sticks his arm into her throat 6615 04:32:17,390 --> 04:32:19,219 and pulls out her guts. 6616 04:32:19,323 --> 04:32:20,600 -Then ripped his own arm off 6617 04:32:20,703 --> 04:32:22,222 and then stuffed it back in her mouth. 6618 04:32:22,326 --> 04:32:23,775 -Tony Gardner literally came and poured 6619 04:32:23,879 --> 04:32:29,056 three big jugs of sticky, minty blood, 6620 04:32:29,160 --> 04:32:31,852 and then they set the arm all the way down my throat. 6621 04:32:31,956 --> 04:32:33,785 -And she sits there and she takes it. 6622 04:32:33,889 --> 04:32:37,099 I think she really makes that scene so much more 6623 04:32:37,202 --> 04:32:38,445 than it could be. 6624 04:32:38,549 --> 04:32:39,550 -Madeleine's dead. 6625 04:32:39,653 --> 04:32:41,690 -Chucky did it. -No. 6626 04:32:41,793 --> 04:32:44,762 -[Laughs] Oh, God. The foot scenes. 6627 04:32:44,865 --> 04:32:49,732 -He's bought her this pair of bright red Chanel pumps, 6628 04:32:49,836 --> 04:32:52,010 and he's putting them on her feet. 6629 04:32:52,114 --> 04:32:53,805 -And I was struggling, and I was struggling, 6630 04:32:53,909 --> 04:32:55,738 and I kept, you know -- I didn't want to, like, 6631 04:32:55,842 --> 04:32:58,465 lose eye contact with her, but I just kept trying and trying. 6632 04:32:58,569 --> 04:32:59,777 And it went on forever. 6633 04:32:59,880 --> 04:33:02,538 -And we can see behind the monitor 6634 04:33:02,642 --> 04:33:05,507 that he's put the wrong shoe on the wrong foot. 6635 04:33:05,610 --> 04:33:09,165 -He's, like, doing it wrong and bo-- and me -- 6636 04:33:09,269 --> 04:33:10,719 I'm trying not to break. 6637 04:33:10,822 --> 04:33:12,376 You know, I'm trying not to, like, break the scene 6638 04:33:12,479 --> 04:33:13,480 so we don't have to shoot it 300 times. 6639 04:33:13,583 --> 04:33:17,346 -And then, you know, 6640 04:33:17,450 --> 04:33:19,278 we all burst out laughing and then, you know, 6641 04:33:19,383 --> 04:33:21,454 for the next 5 minutes or 10 minutes, 6642 04:33:21,557 --> 04:33:23,594 every time we'd kind of start, 6643 04:33:23,697 --> 04:33:25,526 we'd burst out laughing again. It was just so funny. 6644 04:33:25,630 --> 04:33:27,770 -And so that's still one of my favorite scenes to watch. 6645 04:33:27,874 --> 04:33:33,741 -It was just fucking hilarious. 6646 04:33:33,845 --> 04:33:35,157 -Oh, my God. 6647 04:33:35,259 --> 04:33:38,471 -Scene 74 is the scene where the three Chuckys finally, 6648 04:33:38,574 --> 04:33:40,714 you know, come together and have a conversation. 6649 04:33:40,818 --> 04:33:43,268 -The scene and its purpose -- it worked. 6650 04:33:43,372 --> 04:33:45,028 For Don and for his creative process, 6651 04:33:45,132 --> 04:33:49,343 I think it opened the door for lots of places to go. 6652 04:33:49,447 --> 04:33:51,311 -Chucky can be in several places. 6653 04:33:51,415 --> 04:33:54,556 -What the hell happened to you? -Oh. 6654 04:33:54,659 --> 04:33:57,766 -That begins to evolve into all kinds of things. 6655 04:33:57,868 --> 04:34:01,286 -I remember walking into a room and just seeing all these -- 6656 04:34:01,390 --> 04:34:04,773 all these little Chuckys, like, in different positions, 6657 04:34:04,876 --> 04:34:07,914 and it just feeling like a playground or something. 6658 04:34:08,017 --> 04:34:11,055 -Things would be mapped out with just three posable dolls 6659 04:34:11,158 --> 04:34:12,953 to start with so we knew where everybody was 6660 04:34:13,057 --> 04:34:14,783 and where our lighting needed to be. 6661 04:34:14,885 --> 04:34:16,922 -It was doing a lot of comping in 6662 04:34:17,026 --> 04:34:18,510 where we would do one performance 6663 04:34:18,614 --> 04:34:19,857 and then another performance. 6664 04:34:19,960 --> 04:34:21,651 -Each one was performed one at a time, 6665 04:34:21,755 --> 04:34:24,068 and then they were all stitched together digitally. 6666 04:34:24,170 --> 04:34:26,484 -We were doing a lot of things with rod puppets 6667 04:34:26,588 --> 04:34:28,210 and bunraku puppets, 6668 04:34:28,312 --> 04:34:30,971 where he's being walked with a puppeteer directly behind him. 6669 04:34:31,075 --> 04:34:35,389 So to see it now, to me, is kind of a triumph. 6670 04:34:35,492 --> 04:34:38,220 -Hello? Look at my hair. -Oh, shit. You win. 6671 04:34:38,323 --> 04:34:41,499 Absolutely. Sorry, pal. You go fuck him up real good. 6672 04:34:41,603 --> 04:34:43,052 -They were vocally a little different, 6673 04:34:43,155 --> 04:34:45,469 and they did have some points of view 6674 04:34:45,572 --> 04:34:47,160 that were slightly different. 6675 04:34:47,262 --> 04:34:49,990 But they were Chucky. They were essentially Chucky. 6676 04:34:50,094 --> 04:34:51,922 -They're not at each other's throat. 6677 04:34:52,026 --> 04:34:54,823 I mean, they may bicker about who gets to kill Andy, 6678 04:34:54,926 --> 04:34:57,998 but basically they are the Cult of Chucky. 6679 04:34:58,101 --> 04:35:00,759 -[Laughs] -Welcome to the cult, pal. 6680 04:35:00,863 --> 04:35:03,278 -When I did it vocally the first time, 6681 04:35:03,383 --> 04:35:07,214 I would do one character and take them all the way through... 6682 04:35:07,318 --> 04:35:09,975 -Yeah, well, you've been alive for like two minutes. 6683 04:35:10,079 --> 04:35:11,943 -And then go to the next character 6684 04:35:12,046 --> 04:35:13,876 and take that all the way through. 6685 04:35:13,980 --> 04:35:17,293 -Now I can be me. -And me. -And me. 6686 04:35:17,397 --> 04:35:22,160 -We had a lot of fun doing it and particular fun with Buzzcut, 6687 04:35:22,264 --> 04:35:24,059 the one with the bad hair, 6688 04:35:24,162 --> 04:35:27,165 because he was the innocent, you know. 6689 04:35:27,269 --> 04:35:28,476 We tried to give them each 6690 04:35:28,580 --> 04:35:30,755 slightly different personalities. 6691 04:35:30,859 --> 04:35:33,931 -Yeah, we all named them. We would give them nicknames 6692 04:35:34,034 --> 04:35:36,692 to, like, how they looked or how they were acting. 6693 04:35:36,795 --> 04:35:38,418 -You have three Chuckys at once on screen, 6694 04:35:38,522 --> 04:35:41,835 but you only have the budget to shoot one of them at a time 6695 04:35:41,938 --> 04:35:45,080 because there's only one of them. 6696 04:35:45,183 --> 04:35:48,600 So that was the challenge with Carlos's death. 6697 04:35:48,704 --> 04:35:50,982 -I was really honored that I was gonna be 6698 04:35:51,086 --> 04:35:53,743 the first character to be killed by three Chuckys. 6699 04:35:53,847 --> 04:35:55,261 -That was a gruesome death. 6700 04:35:55,366 --> 04:35:58,749 -[Grunts] 6701 04:35:58,851 --> 04:36:00,233 -Ah! 6702 04:36:00,336 --> 04:36:03,132 -It was like kitchen sink on Carlos, and he loved it. 6703 04:36:03,236 --> 04:36:06,515 -It's true that that scene with those Chucky dolls, 6704 04:36:06,618 --> 04:36:08,482 it's kind of like "Gremlins," 6705 04:36:08,586 --> 04:36:11,658 but hard-core, R-rated "Gremlins." 6706 04:36:11,761 --> 04:36:14,730 It's one of the bloodiest, darkest moments 6707 04:36:14,833 --> 04:36:18,078 in our entire 30-something-year franchise. 6708 04:36:18,182 --> 04:36:21,323 -It's the most torment and horror 6709 04:36:21,426 --> 04:36:23,187 that this person's ever experienced. 6710 04:36:23,290 --> 04:36:26,086 -He was super patient because not only did he have to die, 6711 04:36:26,189 --> 04:36:29,607 he had to die multiple times because we had to shoot it over 6712 04:36:29,711 --> 04:36:32,885 and over again with each version of the puppet. 6713 04:36:32,990 --> 04:36:35,924 -Drill. 6714 04:36:36,026 --> 04:36:38,236 -And he took it like a champ. 6715 04:36:38,340 --> 04:36:39,997 -[Groans and screams] 6716 04:36:40,099 --> 04:36:41,895 -And the deal with Chucky is he just, like, 6717 04:36:41,999 --> 04:36:45,002 loves it so much, you're kind of rooting for him, too, 6718 04:36:45,105 --> 04:36:48,453 even though Carlos was -- Carlos was a good guy. 6719 04:36:48,557 --> 04:36:52,526 He was a good guy, but good guys finish last, you know? 6720 04:36:52,630 --> 04:36:55,426 -There's definitely perks to being supernaturally possessed. 6721 04:36:55,528 --> 04:36:59,636 -And then I get to be a man, which was also really fun, 6722 04:36:59,741 --> 04:37:01,812 and play my dad's iconic character, 6723 04:37:01,915 --> 04:37:06,610 which was a fun space to occupy psychologically 6724 04:37:06,713 --> 04:37:08,025 with somebody who's just doing exactly 6725 04:37:08,128 --> 04:37:10,165 what they want to do and doing it well. 6726 04:37:10,268 --> 04:37:11,753 -Fiona is a great actress, 6727 04:37:11,856 --> 04:37:14,514 and to be able to tap into a character 6728 04:37:14,617 --> 04:37:16,343 like her father, to emulate that -- 6729 04:37:16,447 --> 04:37:21,072 that laugh, that smile, the look, the intensity 6730 04:37:21,176 --> 04:37:23,247 that he brings -- that's no small feat. 6731 04:37:23,349 --> 04:37:26,560 -Fiona's Brad impression, I think, is remarkably good. 6732 04:37:26,664 --> 04:37:30,116 -When I first realized that I was actually going to play him, 6733 04:37:30,219 --> 04:37:33,118 I definitely called my dad and asked him, like, 6734 04:37:33,222 --> 04:37:36,087 "All right, so what -- like, what's the clue into Chucky?" 6735 04:37:36,190 --> 04:37:37,986 And he always says the same thing. 6736 04:37:38,089 --> 04:37:40,297 He's like, "Listen, kid, there's basically two things. 6737 04:37:40,401 --> 04:37:45,407 Chucky -- he's terrified of oblivion and he loves his job." 6738 04:37:45,509 --> 04:37:46,994 -I love my job. 6739 04:37:47,098 --> 04:37:49,722 -And I was like, okay, okay, I could do that. 6740 04:37:49,825 --> 04:37:52,310 -This is for Nica. 6741 04:37:52,414 --> 04:37:53,967 -Ah! -Aah! 6742 04:37:54,071 --> 04:37:55,761 -There's something about Dr. Foley's death by high heel 6743 04:37:55,866 --> 04:37:57,177 that's, again, very de Palma. 6744 04:37:57,280 --> 04:37:59,973 -Dr. Foley had it coming, absolutely. 6745 04:38:00,077 --> 04:38:04,150 And that was a fun death to plan and shoot. 6746 04:38:04,253 --> 04:38:07,152 Michael Therriault himself was quite disturbed 6747 04:38:07,256 --> 04:38:10,812 to see his likeness stomped to pulp. 6748 04:38:10,915 --> 04:38:14,747 -And I'm also amazed by the artistry of it. 6749 04:38:14,849 --> 04:38:17,163 You know, the people who make these heads, 6750 04:38:17,266 --> 04:38:19,890 you know, each hair is sewn in individually, 6751 04:38:19,992 --> 04:38:22,962 you know, like every little blood vessel and pore. 6752 04:38:23,064 --> 04:38:25,827 -They built a really nice head packed full of stuff, 6753 04:38:25,930 --> 04:38:27,794 and they could really pound on it 6754 04:38:27,898 --> 04:38:29,830 very violently and repeatedly. 6755 04:38:29,934 --> 04:38:32,384 -Oh, my God. Fucking awesome. 6756 04:38:32,488 --> 04:38:35,146 -Chucky takes things much more personally, 6757 04:38:35,250 --> 04:38:39,633 and he's much more interested in who people are 6758 04:38:39,737 --> 04:38:41,946 than -- than he used to be. 6759 04:38:42,050 --> 04:38:44,500 -Yeah, I'd kill Dr. Foley any day. 6760 04:38:44,604 --> 04:38:46,502 -You're sick. 6761 04:38:46,606 --> 04:38:48,228 And not in the fun way, like me. 6762 04:38:48,331 --> 04:38:50,127 -Malcolm's brain has all these characters 6763 04:38:50,230 --> 04:38:51,955 starting to, like, fall out of him. 6764 04:38:52,060 --> 04:38:54,096 And he just regressed back to Malcolm. 6765 04:38:54,200 --> 04:38:55,684 -As deaths go, 6766 04:38:55,788 --> 04:38:57,098 Adam really got a good one. 6767 04:38:57,203 --> 04:38:59,169 And I think he's very proud of that. 6768 04:38:59,274 --> 04:39:01,828 -Now he's kind of gone off the deep end again 6769 04:39:01,932 --> 04:39:04,106 and thinks he's Chucky. 6770 04:39:04,210 --> 04:39:05,659 -I'm Charles. 6771 04:39:05,762 --> 04:39:07,178 -In your dreams, asshole. 6772 04:39:07,282 --> 04:39:09,042 -And he has this moment of realization 6773 04:39:09,146 --> 04:39:11,804 and you actually have pity for this guy. 6774 04:39:11,907 --> 04:39:13,667 -I think the death is all that more affecting, 6775 04:39:13,771 --> 04:39:15,186 that he becomes kind of vulnerable 6776 04:39:15,290 --> 04:39:17,775 and somebody that you're sort of rooting for. 6777 04:39:17,879 --> 04:39:20,743 -Who am I now? -You're a fucking poser. 6778 04:39:20,847 --> 04:39:21,986 -Finally, he's facing the truth 6779 04:39:22,090 --> 04:39:23,608 that for years, you know, 6780 04:39:23,712 --> 04:39:25,507 someone like Dr. Foley was trying to get out of him, 6781 04:39:25,610 --> 04:39:31,375 but it took a special killer doll to pull it out of him. 6782 04:39:31,478 --> 04:39:37,070 It's incredible to have a dummy that looks exactly like you 6783 04:39:37,174 --> 04:39:38,762 getting a drill through the back of the head 6784 04:39:38,865 --> 04:39:40,315 and you just standing there like this, going, 6785 04:39:40,418 --> 04:39:43,076 "Oh, I should really -- I don't know -- 6786 04:39:43,180 --> 04:39:44,975 I should really be thinking about my life right now. 6787 04:39:45,078 --> 04:39:46,597 What am I doing here?" 6788 04:39:46,700 --> 04:39:49,255 -[Cackles] -[Cackles] 6789 04:39:49,358 --> 04:39:54,087 -I also wanted to take advantage of Fiona. 6790 04:39:54,191 --> 04:39:56,987 Her real-life laugh sounds like Chucky. 6791 04:39:57,090 --> 04:39:58,298 And at first I thought, like, 6792 04:39:58,402 --> 04:40:00,991 are you deliberately doing Chucky? 6793 04:40:01,094 --> 04:40:02,647 -It's my actual laugh. 6794 04:40:02,751 --> 04:40:04,546 You could walk into a party of 50 people and be like, 6795 04:40:04,649 --> 04:40:06,617 "Oh, Fiona's here." 6796 04:40:06,720 --> 04:40:09,033 I think the cackle's genetic. 6797 04:40:09,137 --> 04:40:11,242 -This is the end, fucker! 6798 04:40:11,346 --> 04:40:14,314 -To also be able to see Andy exact his revenge 6799 04:40:14,418 --> 04:40:17,076 so personally is also really cool. 6800 04:40:17,179 --> 04:40:18,732 -It was my favorite day on set. 6801 04:40:18,836 --> 04:40:20,907 I get to stomp a Chucky's face in. 6802 04:40:21,011 --> 04:40:26,257 -Any time the doll gets nailed by some horrible death, 6803 04:40:26,361 --> 04:40:31,745 people seem to really be into that, too, for whatever reason. 6804 04:40:31,849 --> 04:40:33,402 -At this point, 6805 04:40:33,506 --> 04:40:36,164 you know, she's not really Nica. She's possessed by Chucky. 6806 04:40:36,267 --> 04:40:38,028 It's an interesting little moment. 6807 04:40:38,131 --> 04:40:39,961 And, of course, she traps him 6808 04:40:40,064 --> 04:40:43,033 in the asylum and scoots away scot-free. 6809 04:40:43,136 --> 04:40:45,276 -Tag, you're it, pal. 6810 04:40:45,380 --> 04:40:48,245 -Hey, sweet face. 6811 04:40:48,348 --> 04:40:50,316 Good to see you back on your feet. 6812 04:40:50,419 --> 04:40:54,009 -I think Nica never wanted to meet Tiffany. 6813 04:40:54,113 --> 04:40:58,013 I think Charles Lee Ray was stoked to meet Tiffany again 6814 04:40:58,117 --> 04:41:00,982 in some whatever twisted romantic thing they have. 6815 04:41:01,085 --> 04:41:04,019 -The end of this movie, myself and Nica kiss, 6816 04:41:04,123 --> 04:41:06,401 get into a truck, and drive off together. 6817 04:41:06,504 --> 04:41:09,197 -It, you know -- just fun to have these two actors 6818 04:41:09,300 --> 04:41:11,406 from disparate parts of the franchise 6819 04:41:11,509 --> 04:41:14,098 finally meet and surprisingly team up. 6820 04:41:14,202 --> 04:41:16,376 -That's when you first saw Tiffany 6821 04:41:16,480 --> 04:41:19,138 as sort of a smooth master criminal, 6822 04:41:19,241 --> 04:41:23,107 and you saw a woman that was really in control 6823 04:41:23,211 --> 04:41:25,144 and sort of masterminding 6824 04:41:25,247 --> 04:41:26,731 some of the things that were happening, 6825 04:41:26,835 --> 04:41:29,527 and that was a very interesting direction for her to go. 6826 04:41:29,631 --> 04:41:34,222 -And Nica -- she's got this dude kind of walk to her and, 6827 04:41:34,325 --> 04:41:37,018 you know, she kisses Jennifer so passionately, 6828 04:41:37,121 --> 04:41:38,778 and I really do, I think it's brilliant. 6829 04:41:38,882 --> 04:41:43,231 -It was -45 degrees [laughs] in Winnipeg. 6830 04:41:43,334 --> 04:41:47,097 -It's so freezing. Like, snow is everywhere. 6831 04:41:47,200 --> 04:41:49,099 -And so I'm asking two of my dearest friends 6832 04:41:49,202 --> 04:41:52,550 to make out [laughs] in a blizzard. 6833 04:41:52,654 --> 04:41:54,104 And it's 40 below. 6834 04:41:54,207 --> 04:41:58,418 -I cannot believe you call yourself a director. 6835 04:41:58,522 --> 04:41:59,730 -She did not say that. 6836 04:41:59,833 --> 04:42:01,421 That's, like, when the friendship 6837 04:42:01,525 --> 04:42:04,977 part of the relationship really pays off. 6838 04:42:05,080 --> 04:42:06,564 I am her favorite director. 6839 04:42:06,668 --> 04:42:08,428 -He's my favorite director ever! 6840 04:42:08,532 --> 04:42:12,398 So we wanted to do this thing where we kiss -- 6841 04:42:12,501 --> 04:42:15,401 we kiss and then I slap her -- him, Chucky -- 6842 04:42:15,504 --> 04:42:18,404 and then she slaps me back and then we kiss again. 6843 04:42:18,507 --> 04:42:20,509 We just thought that that -- and we're laughing. 6844 04:42:20,613 --> 04:42:22,373 We just thought that was, like, a great thing. 6845 04:42:22,477 --> 04:42:25,169 Don was like, "Girls! What are you doing?!" 6846 04:42:25,273 --> 04:42:26,860 -And then they get in the car 6847 04:42:26,964 --> 04:42:28,690 and then there's the Tiffany doll in the back seat laughing. 6848 04:42:28,793 --> 04:42:31,451 It's like it just keeps building on top of itself. 6849 04:42:31,555 --> 04:42:33,212 And I really like that as an ending. 6850 04:42:33,315 --> 04:42:35,283 I thought it was a really, really strong ending 6851 04:42:35,386 --> 04:42:37,354 and they literally drive off. 6852 04:42:37,457 --> 04:42:40,426 It's like, where can this go? They can go literally anywhere. 6853 04:42:40,529 --> 04:42:43,256 -The end of "Cult of Chucky" left this cliffhanger. 6854 04:42:43,360 --> 04:42:46,570 I was like, "Drive me away. Great. 6855 04:42:46,673 --> 04:42:47,847 Like, I'll do this again." 6856 04:42:47,951 --> 04:42:49,504 -Who are we kidding? 6857 04:42:49,607 --> 04:42:53,059 Chucky can come alive no matter how badly he's murdered. 6858 04:42:53,163 --> 04:42:55,268 There's a sequel coming. [Laughs] 6859 04:42:55,372 --> 04:42:58,271 You know, there's bucks to be made. 6860 04:42:58,375 --> 04:42:59,859 -Kyle? 6861 04:42:59,963 --> 04:43:01,205 -Andy sent me. 6862 04:43:01,309 --> 04:43:02,551 We're gonna have some fun. 6863 04:43:02,655 --> 04:43:04,898 -You know, after having tested the waters 6864 04:43:05,002 --> 04:43:08,419 with Alex/Andy in "Curse," 6865 04:43:08,523 --> 04:43:10,732 it was great to finally bring Christine in. 6866 04:43:10,835 --> 04:43:13,217 -They were running over. The producers were trying 6867 04:43:13,321 --> 04:43:15,219 to pull it and say, "We're not gonna do it. 6868 04:43:15,323 --> 04:43:17,221 We don't have time. We're not gonna do it." 6869 04:43:17,325 --> 04:43:18,878 And I'd been I'd been there for five days. 6870 04:43:18,982 --> 04:43:21,156 I've been standing around in the freezing cold all night. 6871 04:43:21,260 --> 04:43:23,848 And Don's like, "No, she's here. We're gonna do it." 6872 04:43:23,952 --> 04:43:25,160 So it almost didn't even happen, 6873 04:43:25,264 --> 04:43:26,575 even though I was standing there. 6874 04:43:26,679 --> 04:43:28,163 And I got like three -- three shots at it. 6875 04:43:28,267 --> 04:43:29,371 One, two, three takes, and that was that. 6876 04:43:29,475 --> 04:43:31,166 -For a moment, it looked like 6877 04:43:31,270 --> 04:43:32,892 "Are we gonna have to scrap this whole idea?" 6878 04:43:32,996 --> 04:43:36,792 And I really didn't want to 'cause I really wanted Kyle 6879 04:43:36,896 --> 04:43:38,380 to be at the end of the movie. 6880 04:43:38,484 --> 04:43:40,658 -The hat that I wear in "Child's Play 2" was my hat. 6881 04:43:40,762 --> 04:43:42,384 It was my lucky hat. 6882 04:43:42,488 --> 04:43:44,559 And when Don found that I still had it, he made me bring it 6883 04:43:44,662 --> 04:43:46,526 so I could wear it for my reappearance 6884 04:43:46,630 --> 04:43:47,838 at the end of "Cult." 6885 04:43:47,941 --> 04:43:50,013 -I mean, she's such a strong character. 6886 04:43:50,116 --> 04:43:51,876 It was so great to see her show back up. 6887 04:43:51,980 --> 04:43:54,258 -Yeah, really, really happy it happened. 6888 04:43:54,362 --> 04:43:56,226 -The lunatics taking over the asylum 6889 04:43:56,329 --> 04:44:00,437 and leaving it in bloody ruins meant the shoot was a success. 6890 04:44:00,540 --> 04:44:02,887 The next course of treatment was to edit the film, 6891 04:44:02,991 --> 04:44:07,823 create the score, and bring all the madness and mayhem together. 6892 04:44:07,927 --> 04:44:10,447 -The post process was very tight, 6893 04:44:10,550 --> 04:44:13,657 so while Don was shooting in Winnipeg, 6894 04:44:13,760 --> 04:44:16,246 I was in Los Angeles, and I would get the dailies 6895 04:44:16,349 --> 04:44:19,145 the next day, and so the scene they shot on Monday, 6896 04:44:19,249 --> 04:44:20,526 I would cut on Tuesday. 6897 04:44:20,629 --> 04:44:24,081 -"Cult" was, uh, a long time brewing. 6898 04:44:24,185 --> 04:44:26,325 And so, you know, Don made me aware of it 6899 04:44:26,428 --> 04:44:28,051 even from the script point. 6900 04:44:28,154 --> 04:44:30,122 -So on "Cult," Don was the producer, 6901 04:44:30,225 --> 04:44:31,744 the writer, the director. 6902 04:44:31,847 --> 04:44:35,230 And I had him all alone in the editing room. 6903 04:44:35,334 --> 04:44:37,612 -Well, my first pitch for "Cult" was that, 6904 04:44:37,715 --> 04:44:39,890 "Oh, we're in an intimate setting, 6905 04:44:39,993 --> 04:44:41,064 so let's just have five strings." 6906 04:44:41,167 --> 04:44:42,824 And that didn't go over well. 6907 04:44:42,927 --> 04:44:46,276 I think that the idea is that Don's cinematography 6908 04:44:46,379 --> 04:44:50,590 and his palette, uh, visually, is so large and so broad 6909 04:44:50,694 --> 04:44:54,249 that he really likes to see the music just as colorful. 6910 04:44:54,353 --> 04:44:58,081 I think there's more cinematic moments in "Cult," 6911 04:44:58,184 --> 04:45:01,153 and that's definitely Don's esthetic as well. 6912 04:45:01,256 --> 04:45:04,328 -It was three weeks, 80-plus minutes of music. 6913 04:45:04,432 --> 04:45:05,847 It went down really quickly. 6914 04:45:05,950 --> 04:45:07,849 -First time I saw it was a rough cut. 6915 04:45:07,952 --> 04:45:09,230 I knew it was good. 6916 04:45:09,333 --> 04:45:11,094 I saw it and went, "Yeah, this works." 6917 04:45:11,197 --> 04:45:12,785 -So the first time I saw "Cult," 6918 04:45:12,888 --> 04:45:16,789 I think it was at a screening with -- full of fans, 6919 04:45:16,892 --> 04:45:18,446 which was amazing. 6920 04:45:18,549 --> 04:45:21,414 I brought my Mom, [laughs] who I warned, you know, 6921 04:45:21,518 --> 04:45:24,314 "I'm gonna die again," but she loved it. 6922 04:45:24,417 --> 04:45:27,006 -It just did what a great horror movie does. 6923 04:45:27,110 --> 04:45:29,595 It just builds and builds and builds, 6924 04:45:29,698 --> 04:45:32,460 and you just think, how can this get any scarier? 6925 04:45:32,563 --> 04:45:34,358 How can this get any worse? 6926 04:45:34,462 --> 04:45:36,222 How can it get any gorier? 6927 04:45:36,326 --> 04:45:37,879 -And it was such a moment for me 6928 04:45:37,982 --> 04:45:39,501 because it was the first movie that I could remember, 6929 04:45:39,605 --> 04:45:41,469 really, that I was proud of, 6930 04:45:41,572 --> 04:45:44,057 I was proud to be a part of, I was proud to contribute. 6931 04:45:44,161 --> 04:45:46,922 -It was a blast. 6932 04:45:47,026 --> 04:45:48,476 My friends were all like, "We, uh -- 6933 04:45:48,579 --> 04:45:51,410 we struggled a lot to watch you get decapitated," 6934 04:45:51,513 --> 04:45:53,205 but I had, like, childhood friends who were like, 6935 04:45:53,308 --> 04:45:54,620 "This is the best thing ever! 6936 04:45:54,723 --> 04:45:56,346 I love that you're a part of this series." 6937 04:45:56,449 --> 04:45:58,727 -Seeing the movie for the first time was insane. 6938 04:45:58,831 --> 04:46:00,591 It's my first time seeing Chucky split. 6939 04:46:00,695 --> 04:46:03,491 I think it was a huge deal for everybody, 6940 04:46:03,594 --> 04:46:06,321 so it was really cool to see it come to life on screen. 6941 04:46:06,425 --> 04:46:09,669 -"Cult" is my favorite film in the franchise. 6942 04:46:09,773 --> 04:46:12,293 I love how it's shot. 6943 04:46:12,396 --> 04:46:14,605 I think that "Cult" is a masterpiece. 6944 04:46:14,709 --> 04:46:17,367 -Chucky's spell over those working on the film 6945 04:46:17,470 --> 04:46:19,196 had clearly been cast, 6946 04:46:19,300 --> 04:46:21,267 but the true test would be the reception 6947 04:46:21,371 --> 04:46:23,787 from critics and audiences at large, 6948 04:46:23,890 --> 04:46:28,240 and by all accounts, the response was insane. 6949 04:46:28,343 --> 04:46:30,794 -The critical reception to "Cult" was phenomenal, 6950 04:46:30,897 --> 04:46:35,143 especially for a seventh installment of a franchise. 6951 04:46:35,247 --> 04:46:36,903 -This movie got really, really good reviews, 6952 04:46:37,007 --> 04:46:40,769 including from places like "The Hollywood Reporter." 6953 04:46:40,873 --> 04:46:42,530 And, you know, there's the line about it 6954 04:46:42,633 --> 04:46:44,152 being kind of like a low-budget de Palma movie, 6955 04:46:44,256 --> 04:46:46,292 which is a great way of describing it. 6956 04:46:46,396 --> 04:46:50,193 -It way outdid what their expectations were. 6957 04:46:50,296 --> 04:46:53,057 -There are so many Don subverting expectations 6958 04:46:53,161 --> 04:46:55,128 in so many places, 6959 04:46:55,232 --> 04:46:57,200 and fans really responded to that. 6960 04:46:57,303 --> 04:46:58,787 -Don always has surprises, 6961 04:46:58,891 --> 04:47:01,134 and I think that's why the show has endured for so long. 6962 04:47:01,238 --> 04:47:05,000 He never tries to do a retread of something that came before. 6963 04:47:05,104 --> 04:47:06,347 He's the ultimate fan. 6964 04:47:06,450 --> 04:47:09,419 -I'm always on this quest to experiment, 6965 04:47:09,522 --> 04:47:13,423 to find what is the perfect balance of humor 6966 04:47:13,526 --> 04:47:15,873 and horror and camp and meta? 6967 04:47:15,977 --> 04:47:20,326 -So there are new "Chucky" fans coming along all the time, 6968 04:47:20,430 --> 04:47:21,948 and so "Cult of Chucky" 6969 04:47:22,052 --> 04:47:24,848 might be somebody's first exposure to any of this, 6970 04:47:24,951 --> 04:47:27,609 and they discover, oh, wait, there's these other movies? 6971 04:47:27,713 --> 04:47:30,060 And then that that's the incentive 6972 04:47:30,163 --> 04:47:31,441 to go back and check those out. 6973 04:47:31,544 --> 04:47:35,065 -Taking time between movies is a good thing. 6974 04:47:35,168 --> 04:47:36,756 I think it helps. 6975 04:47:36,860 --> 04:47:38,586 You know, I'm not thinking about the box office of it. 6976 04:47:38,689 --> 04:47:41,451 I'm thinking of the horror fans and the horror culture. 6977 04:47:41,554 --> 04:47:44,626 So I actually think, like, withholding some of these things 6978 04:47:44,730 --> 04:47:46,628 for a few years -- I actually think it's good 6979 04:47:46,732 --> 04:47:49,217 for the series and good for the franchise. 6980 04:47:49,321 --> 04:47:51,392 -Though Chucky first slashed his way 6981 04:47:51,495 --> 04:47:53,877 through audiences' hearts in 1988, 6982 04:47:53,980 --> 04:47:56,742 the character proved he could still knock 'em dead 6983 04:47:56,845 --> 04:47:59,917 decades later, and while that road to success 6984 04:48:00,021 --> 04:48:01,816 may have been paved 6985 04:48:01,919 --> 04:48:03,162 with plenty of carnage, 6986 04:48:03,266 --> 04:48:05,164 the journey maintained old friendships, 6987 04:48:05,268 --> 04:48:06,717 embraced new ones, 6988 04:48:06,821 --> 04:48:10,756 and proved a true classic never goes out of style. 6989 04:48:10,859 --> 04:48:13,379 -The success of every project is a conglomeration 6990 04:48:13,483 --> 04:48:15,001 of the people that are doing the project, 6991 04:48:15,105 --> 04:48:18,902 and where you are and what mood everybody is in. 6992 04:48:19,005 --> 04:48:20,386 It was fantastic. 6993 04:48:20,490 --> 04:48:22,077 -Making "Cult of Chucky" was like getting to be 6994 04:48:22,181 --> 04:48:24,839 part of the sort of movies you watched when you were a kid, 6995 04:48:24,942 --> 04:48:26,910 where it's a bit of a sci-fi, you know? 6996 04:48:27,013 --> 04:48:30,258 It's a bit of a sci-fi, it's a bit of an evil-doctor thing. 6997 04:48:30,362 --> 04:48:31,570 And it was very nice to be part 6998 04:48:31,673 --> 04:48:33,365 of something you would have watched 6999 04:48:33,468 --> 04:48:34,918 and thought was really cool back when you were 10. 7000 04:48:35,021 --> 04:48:38,542 -It's always a blast. It's all good. It's fun. 7001 04:48:38,646 --> 04:48:41,407 -Thank you for having me back, Don, and I look forward 7002 04:48:41,511 --> 04:48:42,650 to seeing you in the future. 7003 04:48:42,753 --> 04:48:45,273 -Don is a really loyal person. 7004 04:48:45,377 --> 04:48:47,793 He falls in love with his cast in a way 7005 04:48:47,896 --> 04:48:52,038 I think most showrunners and writer-directors don't. 7006 04:48:52,142 --> 04:48:53,557 -I had the chance to experiment 7007 04:48:53,661 --> 04:48:56,940 and do not just Chucky as a normal character, 7008 04:48:57,043 --> 04:48:59,908 but do multiple versions of him and a disembodied head of him 7009 04:49:00,012 --> 04:49:03,429 and hopefully make people laugh and scream. 7010 04:49:03,533 --> 04:49:05,500 And that's really why I'm there. 7011 04:49:05,604 --> 04:49:10,160 -It's an all-encompassing, challenging art form. 7012 04:49:10,263 --> 04:49:12,369 And it sounds ridiculous, 7013 04:49:12,473 --> 04:49:14,716 but Chucky is Shakespearean. 7014 04:49:14,820 --> 04:49:16,339 -The crew was unbelievable. 7015 04:49:16,442 --> 04:49:18,548 Everybody was really, really warm. 7016 04:49:18,651 --> 04:49:19,963 They made us feel like we were their family. 7017 04:49:20,066 --> 04:49:23,553 -I'm really glad and honored to have met Don 7018 04:49:23,656 --> 04:49:26,176 and the people involved in the production, 7019 04:49:26,279 --> 04:49:30,732 and it was an absolute bloody pleasure to die this way. 7020 04:49:30,836 --> 04:49:34,564 -The easiest and most fun part about "Cult of Chucky" 7021 04:49:34,667 --> 04:49:36,220 was the camaraderie. 7022 04:49:36,324 --> 04:49:37,877 We knew we were doing something special. 7023 04:49:37,981 --> 04:49:40,673 I light up because I have such fond memories of that time. 7024 04:49:40,777 --> 04:49:44,263 -I feel lucky that I got to do it, yeah. 7025 04:49:44,367 --> 04:49:46,127 I honestly had a really good time, 7026 04:49:46,230 --> 04:49:48,543 and it's a very fond memory of mine. 7027 04:49:48,647 --> 04:49:50,718 -Chucky and I have a bit of a feud still. 7028 04:49:50,821 --> 04:49:52,513 He flipped me off a few times. 7029 04:49:52,616 --> 04:49:54,687 So he's kind of a dick like that. 7030 04:49:54,791 --> 04:49:56,827 -[Cackles] 7031 04:49:56,931 --> 04:49:59,071 -But, you know, at the -- at the very end of it, 7032 04:49:59,174 --> 04:50:00,762 he's still my friend to the end. 7033 04:50:00,866 --> 04:50:03,731 -Being part of the "Child's Play" franchise 7034 04:50:03,834 --> 04:50:06,906 feels like I won some weird lottery 7035 04:50:07,010 --> 04:50:10,151 that I still can't totally explain to myself. 7036 04:50:10,254 --> 04:50:14,155 My family connection to it, um, feels significant. 7037 04:50:14,258 --> 04:50:17,400 It's something that's just been around me my whole life. 7038 04:50:17,503 --> 04:50:20,679 I just feel, like, so lucky. 7039 04:50:20,782 --> 04:50:23,509 It's just so lucky. So thank you. 7040 04:50:23,613 --> 04:50:25,166 -Thank you to the fans. 7041 04:50:25,269 --> 04:50:27,755 Thank you to Don Mancini. Thank you to the producers. 7042 04:50:27,858 --> 04:50:30,758 -I feel very, very lucky to be part of this franchise. 7043 04:50:30,861 --> 04:50:32,725 I love Tiffany. I love all the characters. 7044 04:50:32,829 --> 04:50:34,520 But it really is a "Chucky" family, 7045 04:50:34,624 --> 04:50:36,142 everybody supporting each other 7046 04:50:36,246 --> 04:50:39,111 and working really hard to make a good product. 7047 04:50:39,214 --> 04:50:41,147 -I mean, it's a family. 7048 04:50:41,251 --> 04:50:44,427 I couldn't turn it down if I wanted to, you know? 7049 04:50:44,530 --> 04:50:47,740 Um, "Chucky" is -- is a family project. 7050 04:50:47,844 --> 04:50:51,606 I consider Don Mancini to be a friend, and, um, 7051 04:50:51,710 --> 04:50:55,748 and I could never bring myself to say no to him. 7052 04:50:55,852 --> 04:50:58,061 You know, um, don't tell him that. 7053 04:50:58,164 --> 04:51:03,204 -I have enormous pride to have been part of this franchise 7054 04:51:03,307 --> 04:51:07,657 that started off as a movie with no thoughts of franchise, 7055 04:51:07,760 --> 04:51:11,039 being able to work with so many talented people, 7056 04:51:11,143 --> 04:51:14,940 the Kevin Yaghers of the world, the Tony Gardners of the world, 7057 04:51:15,043 --> 04:51:17,805 all of these people bringing this to life. 7058 04:51:17,908 --> 04:51:19,634 It's more than half of my life 7059 04:51:19,738 --> 04:51:23,155 that I that I have been a part of this. 7060 04:51:23,258 --> 04:51:25,640 And it does make me feel good 7061 04:51:25,744 --> 04:51:28,781 that I saw something in that first script 7062 04:51:28,885 --> 04:51:32,095 that I felt that other people would love. 7063 04:51:32,198 --> 04:51:35,616 And I've been very fortunate to be part of this ride. 7064 04:51:35,719 --> 04:51:37,790 -I love the world we've created. 7065 04:51:37,894 --> 04:51:40,448 We have a lot of characters and relationships. 7066 04:51:40,552 --> 04:51:42,208 There's a lot going on. 7067 04:51:42,312 --> 04:51:44,970 So I feel very, very lucky 7068 04:51:45,073 --> 04:51:48,732 to be able to keep expanding it, pursuing it. 7069 04:51:48,836 --> 04:51:50,354 That's what Chucky means to me. 7070 04:51:50,458 --> 04:51:55,498 He allows me to express this subversive perspective 7071 04:51:55,601 --> 04:51:58,570 on the world, and I'm super grateful 7072 04:51:58,673 --> 04:52:01,434 to the people like yourselves who support it. 7073 04:52:01,538 --> 04:52:10,236 ♪♪ 7074 04:52:10,340 --> 04:52:18,935 ♪♪ 7075 04:52:19,038 --> 04:52:21,006 -Oh, man, I'm not doing the chant, guys. 7076 04:52:21,109 --> 04:52:22,697 -[Laughs] 7077 04:52:22,801 --> 04:52:26,494 -Guys, you really want to open that box? 7078 04:52:26,598 --> 04:52:30,774 -Ade Due Damballa! 7079 04:52:30,878 --> 04:52:33,777 Give me the power, I beg of you! 7080 04:52:33,881 --> 04:52:36,021 -Hi. I'm Chucky. Wanna play? 7081 04:52:36,124 --> 04:52:39,645 -It's time to forget these fantasies of killer dolls. 7082 04:52:39,749 --> 04:52:41,336 -I'll do it like Tiffany. 7083 04:52:41,440 --> 04:52:44,754 Ade Due Damballa. 7084 04:52:44,857 --> 04:52:48,033 Give me the power, I beg of you. 7085 04:52:48,136 --> 04:52:51,484 -All I hear is Jennifer Tilly. Ade Due Damballa. 7086 04:52:51,588 --> 04:52:54,004 Give me the power, I beg of thee. 7087 04:52:54,108 --> 04:52:57,525 French, French, amort, French, something. 7088 04:52:57,629 --> 04:53:00,873 -Leveau mercier du bois chaloitte. 7089 04:53:00,977 --> 04:53:03,807 Secoise entienne mais pois de morte. 7090 04:53:03,911 --> 04:53:06,016 -You are without a doubt 7091 04:53:06,120 --> 04:53:09,364 the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. 7092 04:53:09,468 --> 04:53:11,401 Wouldn't you agree? 7093 04:53:11,504 --> 04:53:12,920 I remember that line now! 7094 04:53:13,023 --> 04:53:14,715 I fucking remember that line. 7095 04:53:14,818 --> 04:53:16,337 -Last time I'm gonna tell you. 7096 04:53:16,440 --> 04:53:20,065 Get rid of that thing a rest, or...something else. 7097 04:53:20,168 --> 04:53:21,376 Ha! 7098 04:53:21,480 --> 04:53:23,862 -Ade Due Damballa. 7099 04:53:23,965 --> 04:53:26,174 Give me the power, I beg of you. 7100 04:53:26,278 --> 04:53:29,039 -You've seen dolls that pee? This one bleeds. 7101 04:53:29,143 --> 04:53:31,076 -We need you to put a little more into it, DJ. 7102 04:53:31,179 --> 04:53:34,286 I'm not really feeling like you're feeling it, 7103 04:53:34,389 --> 04:53:37,185 so try to channel whatever you've got in there. 7104 04:53:37,289 --> 04:53:39,015 Let me give you a little quick fluff here. 7105 04:53:39,118 --> 04:53:41,396 -Ooh! Something really stinks in here. 7106 04:53:41,500 --> 04:53:43,053 -Ade Due Damballa. 7107 04:53:43,157 --> 04:53:45,124 Give me the power, I beg of you. 7108 04:53:45,228 --> 04:53:48,162 -I just like, ooh, why did they have to do this goobly-gock? 7109 04:53:48,265 --> 04:53:50,682 -Jennifer, if anything happens to me, 7110 04:53:50,785 --> 04:53:53,685 I want you to know that I-I -- 7111 04:53:53,788 --> 04:53:55,859 -Uh, let's not get crazy. It's 8:00. 7112 04:53:55,963 --> 04:53:58,621 We've been here for 6 hours. [Laughs] 7113 04:53:58,724 --> 04:54:00,553 -So the first one is, "Oh, sweet Jesus. 7114 04:54:00,657 --> 04:54:02,452 God bless the little people." 7115 04:54:02,555 --> 04:54:05,075 -And I'm back. [Laughs] 7116 04:54:05,179 --> 04:54:08,389 Oh, this is funny. [Laughs] You silly guys. 7117 04:54:08,492 --> 04:54:13,774 -I mean, print media is dead. Ian's working at Starbucks. 7118 04:54:13,877 --> 04:54:15,361 - I feel like I had pithy stories, 7119 04:54:15,465 --> 04:54:17,156 but I feel like all the stuff I want to tell you 7120 04:54:17,260 --> 04:54:20,090 is stuff I probably shouldn't say. 7121 04:54:20,194 --> 04:54:22,058 -Ade Due Damballa. 7122 04:54:22,161 --> 04:54:24,716 Give me the power, I beg of you! 7123 04:54:24,819 --> 04:54:28,029 -It's a doll. What's the worst that can happen, huh? 7124 04:54:28,133 --> 04:54:31,861 -Oh, nowyou're ready, Bill? 7125 04:54:31,964 --> 04:54:33,207 Okay. 7126 04:54:33,310 --> 04:54:35,623 -I realize I'm giving you a lot of good stories 7127 04:54:35,727 --> 04:54:39,178 and nothing you can use. [Laughs] 7128 04:54:39,282 --> 04:54:41,940 -Andy? [Laughs] 7129 04:54:42,043 --> 04:54:43,700 I can't. 7130 04:54:43,804 --> 04:54:46,461 [Laughter] 7131 04:54:46,565 --> 04:54:48,429 Oh, you're killing me! 7132 04:54:48,532 --> 04:54:51,363 Oh, my God, this is -- I think this is my whole part. 7133 04:54:51,466 --> 04:54:54,953 -Nica, thank you so much. The chili was delicious. 7134 04:54:55,056 --> 04:54:59,889 -Dr. Foley, it's true! He's alive! 7135 04:54:59,992 --> 04:55:01,511 [Laughs] 7136 04:55:01,614 --> 04:55:04,134 -You've already burned through my -- 7137 04:55:04,238 --> 04:55:07,103 my cerebral cortex, you've moved into my cerebellum, 7138 04:55:07,206 --> 04:55:10,554 and it's exiting out my cervical spine. 7139 04:55:10,658 --> 04:55:13,903 -I've missed these little sessions of ours. 7140 04:55:14,006 --> 04:55:16,146 Haven't you? -I can hear him. 7141 04:55:16,250 --> 04:55:19,046 I can still hear Chucky inside my head. 7142 04:55:19,149 --> 04:55:22,981 -Ade Due Damballa. Give me the power, I beg of you. 7143 04:55:23,084 --> 04:55:24,430 Is that all you need? -That's all we need. 7144 04:55:24,534 --> 04:55:26,985 -Oh, okay. Oh, I can do that better, though. 7145 04:55:27,088 --> 04:55:29,470 -Christ, there's a lot of lines here. 7146 04:55:29,573 --> 04:55:31,334 -No. [Laughs] No, Tommy. 7147 04:55:31,437 --> 04:55:34,544 [Laughs] I'm tired. 7148 04:55:34,647 --> 04:55:37,512 -This is the end, friends. 7149 04:55:37,616 --> 04:55:40,964 -Ade Due Damballa. 7150 04:55:41,068 --> 04:55:44,243 Give me the power, I beg of you. 7151 04:55:44,347 --> 04:55:46,521 Let me be in focus. 7152 04:55:46,625 --> 04:55:52,044 ♪♪