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So I need you
to repeat after me.
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We are here.
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We are here!
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Women have used
their music
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as a form of resistance
for decades.
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Taking risks.
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Singing the truth,
even when the world
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is telling you to shut up.
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I think music is one
of the most powerful ways
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to put a message out there.
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♪ This girl is on fire ♪
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♪ This girl is on fire ♪
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♪ We're walking on fire ♪
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Music has
the ability to bypass...
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this, this brain.
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Music goes straight here.
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And when something
says the things
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that you may not be able
to articulate yourself,
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it becomes like part of you.
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Music is
more powerful now than ever
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because it's an example
where people come together.
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We have
an opportunity today
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that a lot of women before us
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paved the way to do,
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and that's to be as loud
and proud as possible.
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On three.
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One, two, three.
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Fuck the Supreme Court!
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Silence is sometimes
its own protest,
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but it's born of not believing
that your words matter.
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And that's where protest music,
where the songs
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and the lyricism
becomes so important.
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God put you here
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because you have
something to offer.
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Whether they like it or not,
you owe it.
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If you're passionate
about something,
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show up. It's important.
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...that silence is our enemy,
but sound is our weapon.
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Chill!
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When everything
is so desperate,
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when every day
is a matter of survival,
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I don't think you can help
but be involved.
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State by state,
with a growing number
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pushing near-total bans.
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We will shape
and mold this country.
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I will not be molded and shaped
at all anymore.
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So I don't think you have
a choice.
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How can you be an artist
and not reflect the times?
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Okay.
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♪ I shall not ♪
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♪ I shall not be moved ♪
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♪ I shall not ♪
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♪ I shall not be moved ♪
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♪ Like a tree
Planted by the water ♪
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♪ I shall not be moved ♪
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Music itself is a great way
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to broach this topic
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of what is the story
we've been told about America
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in a way that people can hear.
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When I first started thinking
about doing music as a career,
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I didn't start out thinking,
"I'm going to be an activist."
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I went to school
for classical music
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and learned how to be
a soprano,
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and I felt a little hollow.
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I was like, "What am I doing?"
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What am I doing in this
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that a million other sopranos
can't do?
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So I went back home
to North Carolina,
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and then I started to hear
the banjo,
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the big discovery which
set me off on this-this thing
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of how these activism, history,
and music kind of combine.
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I was finding out that the banjo
was invented by people
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of the African diaspora.
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And I was like, "What?"
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That was the moment
where I was like,
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"If I don't know
this massive thing,
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what else don't I know?"
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I'm of a long line of women
who starts somewhere there.
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I'm sitting here having had
a pretty darn good life.
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And what do I owe my ancestors?
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What do I owe the women
who came before me?
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I think we have
a responsibility.
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We can't write the laws,
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but maybe we can inspire
the people who do.
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Not the church,
not the state!
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Women must decide their fate!
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A sweeping,
deeply consequential decision
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from the nation's
highest court,
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ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade.
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I don't think anyone thought
that could happen.
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I don't think we still
have fully processed
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that it can happen,
and that it's happening.
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And I think the reason
we had so many big artists
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being willing to talk
about reproductive rights
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was because it was such
a shocking moment.
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Now y'all know it wouldn't be me
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if I ain't take a second
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to call out
these stupid ass men.
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I need everybody in the audience
right now to say,
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"My body,
my motherfucking choice!"
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My body,
my motherfucking choice!
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One more time! My body,
my motherfucking choice!
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My body,
my motherfucking choice!
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Drop that shit, Jay Bone.
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I am so...
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sick and tired
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of old men.
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It's been really heartening
to see a lot of Gen Z pop stars
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be so outspoken...
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So many women and so many girls
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are going to die
because of this.
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...against this really
regressive wave
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of patriarchy.
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It's never giving
a man policing my body.
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It's just crazy to me.
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I-I can't imagine anyone
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making a decision for a woman
that's not her.
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I-- That's like we've gone
back in time.
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I don't think that's something
I can sit back and just go,
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"Oh, well, hmm,
I won't say anything."
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I had to find my ways
to-to be a part of it
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while not having people
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down my throat saying,
"What do you know?"
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And it's like,
"Actually, I'm a woman.
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I know a lot more
than you think."
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Selena!
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I think I started to recognize
my platform meant something
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when I was around 16.
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I had a single mother
come up to me.
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They were Latin,
and she was in tears saying,
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"Thank you so much
for being someone
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my daughter can look up to
that looks like her."
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That kind of put a little bit
of responsibility on me.
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And then in 2020,
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I felt like I should get
politically involved.
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It was around election year,
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and I remember
I wanted to give my platform
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to other people.
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And then I ended up
interviewing Stacey.
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Stacey.
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Hello.
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I instantly felt like
she was a friend for life.
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And I believe that we, you know,
believe in the same things.
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Please grab some friends
and vote early.
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Go to StaceyAbrams.com
to learn more.
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My mission, my work
is to amplify voices
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that are marginalized
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and empower people to organize
around their beliefs.
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Music can do the same thing.
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The fights that we're in,
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they can be overwhelming
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and we lose the thread.
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Music lets us find it again.
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If we work, if we fight,
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if we resist, we can have more.
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And this music reminds women
that we have been here before,
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we have pushed through,
and we will do so again.
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Free our sisters,
free ourselves!
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The status quo
is being challenged
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by the women's
liberation movement.
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Today, it's still
a man's world.
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And just look at it.
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Women were
paid an average of 59 cents
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for every dollar a man earned.
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In some states,
women
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cannot own property
in their own name.
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Most women
are raised to believe
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their true role is that
of wife and mother.
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But some women are questioning
whether this is so.
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Loretta Lynn was this
well-loved popular musician.
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She had won multiple awards,
had number one hits,
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and I mean, at the time,
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country music was largely known
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to be a little more
conservative.
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She released a song praising
the birth control pill.
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This was a really scandalous
thing to do.
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♪ There's a-gonna be
Some changes made ♪
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♪ Right here on Nursery Hill ♪
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♪ You set this chicken
Your last time ♪
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♪ 'Cause now I've got
The pill ♪
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It was this anthem
of a woman taking control
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not only of her body,
but her future too.
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And the song started getting
banned from country radio.
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What about women, Loretta?
Have they said,
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"Boy, it's about time
somebody said something"?
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On radio stations,
on television,
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"The Pill" was a huge hit.
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It's still shocking to me
that she was able to do that.
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With that one song,
Loretta just blew up
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what was acceptable
for women to sing about.
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And she did it
so unapologetically
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that she opened doors
for other women in music.
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Thank you.
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Liberation is here.
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No area of male-dominated
American culture is spared.
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Women wanted to
equally participate in society.
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Not gonna sit quietly
any longer!
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And a big part
of that meant changing
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what a woman's role was
and how she was perceived.
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A coalition
of liberation groups
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invaded the offices
of the Ladies' Home Journal.
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We demand that the magazine
ceased publishing advertisements
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that degrade women.
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- Here's one!
- Here's one!
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"Made for a woman's
extra feelings."
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Secret deodorant.
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Oh!
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♪ I am woman, hear me roar ♪
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♪ In numbers too big
To ignore ♪
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♪ And I know too much
To go back and pretend ♪
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Women are told so much,
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and it gets thrown at them
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in the form of advertising
and just the general attitudes
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of family and friends
and society.
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In general, you are weak.
You are inferior.
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What are the main
things you want equality in?
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Probably the basic
underlying things.
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Just a general change
of attitude toward women
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in general, and on the part
of women themselves.
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Hmm. Well,
your song, "I Am Woman,"
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it suggests a toughness,
almost an aggressiveness.
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Uh, "I am strong,
I am invincible..."
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It's a positive statement, okay?
Positive.
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- ♪ I am strong ♪
- ♪ Strong ♪
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- ♪ I am invincible ♪
- ♪ Invincible ♪
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♪ I am woman ♪
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Songs like
"I Am Woman" resonate
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because they're simply
celebrating being female.
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And it's this moment
where she's inviting
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other women to own their power.
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This idea gets carried forward
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into the next generation
of women artists,
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who are bigger and bolder
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about saying who they are
and what they want.
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The music industry
is designed to be reductive.
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And so women have to work
really hard
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to kind of break out of that.
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And part of that is eagerness
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to kind of express that women
have-- contain multitudes.
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It took some effort
and some revolution
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and radical thinking
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to present this reality,
or truth,
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that we are not one thing
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and we're not even
like two things.
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We're like a million things.
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I am very... meticulous
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about my self-expression
and my art.
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I'll go to great lengths
to make sure
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that everything turns out pure
for me.
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I was living in New York.
This is in the '80s.
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And Valerie Simpson
and Nick Ashford said,
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"We're gonna write songs
for you." So they did.
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And I think probably
the first song they wrote for me
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was "I'm Every Woman."
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♪ I'm every woman ♪
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♪ It's all in me ♪
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♪ Anything you want done, baby,
I'll do it naturally ♪
258
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When I...
I listened to the lyrics,
259
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I said, "Oh dear."
260
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I was all self-conscious
and shit, and I was like,
261
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"I'm not every woman.
262
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How dare I say
I'm every freaking woman.
263
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I'm not."
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I felt uncomfortable for many,
many years singing that song,
265
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but I had a feeling that it was
something bigger than me.
266
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Chaka Khan, she set the scene.
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She was... she was
the blueprint.
268
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And you saw that confidence,
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not just in the music,
270
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but in the performances
from that era.
271
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So, like Tina Turner with
"You Better Be Good to Me."
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♪ Oh, you better be good
To me ♪
273
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Diana Ross,
"I'm Coming Out."
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♪ I'm coming out ♪
275
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♪ I want the world... ♪
276
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And Donna Summer.
277
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She really moved the needle
278
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with videos like
"She Works Hard for the Money."
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♪ She works hard
For the money ♪
280
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♪ So you better
Treat her right ♪
281
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I really believe that music
is the purest form
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of identity expression
that exists.
283
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And these self-ownership
anthems were celebrating
284
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what had been won by women
285
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while also demanding
so much more.
286
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A lot of that fight for more
was happening in the workplace.
287
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♪ Tumble out of bed
And stumble to the kitchen ♪
288
00:14:21,298 --> 00:14:23,257
♪ Pour myself
A cup of ambition ♪
289
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♪ And yawn and stretch
And try to come to life ♪
290
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Dolly wrote "9 to 5"
291
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as a theme song
for a movie by the same name,
292
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which was this satire
about these three secretaries
293
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who plotted revenge
on their super sexist boss.
294
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...Rhodes,
she's gonna try and rope this--
295
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She's already got him down.
296
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If I wasn't in the scene,
I was there every day
297
00:14:44,488 --> 00:14:45,779
and I would just be like,
you know,
298
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'cause I couldn't get
a guitar out on the set.
299
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So I would just kind of...
300
00:14:49,284 --> 00:14:50,617
You gotta have acrylic nails
301
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to make
that real percussive sound.
302
00:14:52,620 --> 00:14:55,164
But I would just-- I thought
it sounded like a typewriter.
303
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Can you hear that?
304
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- Yeah.
- ♪ Working 9 to 5 ♪
305
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♪ What a way to make a living ♪
306
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♪ Working 9 to 5 ♪
307
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♪ What a way to make a living ♪
308
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♪ Barely gettin' by ♪
309
00:15:07,802 --> 00:15:10,304
♪ It's all takin'
And no givin' ♪
310
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♪ They just use your mind... ♪
311
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With "9 to 5,"
what Dolly did was take
312
00:15:14,350 --> 00:15:16,185
a very real subject
313
00:15:16,186 --> 00:15:19,231
and make it light
and approachable and fun,
314
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which is kind of how
she approached a lot of things.
315
00:15:22,942 --> 00:15:25,027
I'd like to know.
Do you sing in the shower?
316
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Do I sing
in the shower?
317
00:15:26,488 --> 00:15:29,032
No, but I don't wash
on stage either.
318
00:15:31,369 --> 00:15:35,456
Dolly Parton is
herself an act of revolution.
319
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I don't want to meet
a lot of famous people.
320
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I'm not interested.
321
00:15:38,833 --> 00:15:40,294
She's one I would want to meet.
322
00:15:40,419 --> 00:15:42,838
Just to say, "Good God, you go."
323
00:15:43,964 --> 00:15:46,173
The way that she came
from nothing.
324
00:15:46,174 --> 00:15:48,260
And the way
that she has written
325
00:15:48,386 --> 00:15:49,718
so many incredible songs.
326
00:15:49,719 --> 00:15:52,264
♪ And if you don't love me,
Leave me ♪
327
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♪ And don't let it trouble
Your mind ♪
328
00:15:55,726 --> 00:15:57,184
"Don't let it trouble
your mind."
329
00:15:57,185 --> 00:15:59,313
When I'm out the door,
don't let it trouble your mind.
330
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I'm gonna be fine.
331
00:16:01,607 --> 00:16:03,148
She stood up for herself.
332
00:16:03,149 --> 00:16:05,111
And she looks the way she looks
333
00:16:05,236 --> 00:16:06,902
'cause that's the way
she wants to look.
334
00:16:06,903 --> 00:16:08,447
And she's very clear about that.
335
00:16:09,365 --> 00:16:11,784
I enjoy the big hair
and the gaudy clothes.
336
00:16:11,909 --> 00:16:13,659
And it's-it's a costume.
337
00:16:13,660 --> 00:16:16,662
It's part of what people
have come to know me as.
338
00:16:16,663 --> 00:16:19,291
And I don't like to be ordinary.
I don't like to be stylish.
339
00:16:19,417 --> 00:16:21,460
It's far too easy to be stylish.
340
00:16:23,254 --> 00:16:25,587
I just loved her
as a businesswoman.
341
00:16:25,588 --> 00:16:28,424
She had big boobs.
Everybody talked about it.
342
00:16:28,425 --> 00:16:31,804
They looked down on her for it,
and she was just like,
343
00:16:31,929 --> 00:16:34,473
"This is me,
and I'm gonna love myself."
344
00:16:35,182 --> 00:16:37,391
I'm sure of myself
as a person.
345
00:16:37,392 --> 00:16:39,019
I'm sure of my talent.
346
00:16:39,145 --> 00:16:40,980
I like the kind of person
that I am.
347
00:16:42,189 --> 00:16:43,816
Dolly had plenty of reason
348
00:16:43,941 --> 00:16:46,610
to be sure of herself
and her talent.
349
00:16:47,111 --> 00:16:49,069
She was part of a league
of female musicians
350
00:16:49,070 --> 00:16:50,612
that were breaking new ground
351
00:16:50,613 --> 00:16:53,576
and shattering expectations
left and right.
352
00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,165
My whole life, I've only done
the stuff that I admired,
353
00:16:59,290 --> 00:17:01,123
and if I admired it,
I tried to emulate it.
354
00:17:01,124 --> 00:17:02,416
And I admired Dolly Parton,
355
00:17:02,417 --> 00:17:04,503
and I admired Emmylou Harris
tremendously.
356
00:17:05,671 --> 00:17:07,173
One day Emmy called me up
and said,
357
00:17:07,298 --> 00:17:09,341
"Dolly Parton's at my house.
Why don't you come over?"
358
00:17:09,467 --> 00:17:12,511
It was a 45-minute drive,
but I got there in about 20.
359
00:17:12,636 --> 00:17:15,556
We did a Carter song,
"Bury Me Beneath the Willow,"
360
00:17:15,681 --> 00:17:17,264
and we went, "Wow."
361
00:17:17,265 --> 00:17:21,852
♪ So bury me
Beneath the willow ♪
362
00:17:21,853 --> 00:17:25,064
♪ Under the weeping
Willow tree ♪
363
00:17:25,065 --> 00:17:28,067
I jam with other
singers all the time, you know.
364
00:17:28,068 --> 00:17:29,904
But this sounded different.
365
00:17:31,405 --> 00:17:33,447
If you're singing a song
or listening to a song,
366
00:17:33,448 --> 00:17:36,658
and you suddenly have a feeling
you didn't realize you had,
367
00:17:36,659 --> 00:17:39,205
that's when music
is doing its job.
368
00:17:39,330 --> 00:17:40,913
And it was
very musically satisfying
369
00:17:40,914 --> 00:17:42,457
to sing with those two girls.
370
00:17:46,921 --> 00:17:50,049
The trio was this
powerhouse supergroup of women
371
00:17:50,174 --> 00:17:54,387
who had really taken control
over their music and careers.
372
00:17:54,512 --> 00:17:56,470
And Linda Ronstadt
was not someone
373
00:17:56,471 --> 00:17:57,805
who was gonna be defined
374
00:17:57,806 --> 00:18:00,518
by the conventions
of the industry.
375
00:18:00,643 --> 00:18:03,977
♪ I'm going back someday ♪
376
00:18:03,978 --> 00:18:05,854
♪ Come what may ♪
377
00:18:05,855 --> 00:18:08,234
♪ To Blue Bayou ♪
378
00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,025
And I remember hearing
"Blue Bayou."
379
00:18:10,026 --> 00:18:13,906
I think I was probably 17.
380
00:18:14,949 --> 00:18:18,867
My mom told me that
I looked like Linda Ronstadt,
381
00:18:18,868 --> 00:18:21,080
and she goes, "You should
listen to her music."
382
00:18:21,205 --> 00:18:24,206
She has an incredible voice,
like, "You're No Good."
383
00:18:24,207 --> 00:18:26,667
♪ You're no good,
You're no good ♪
384
00:18:26,668 --> 00:18:27,753
♪ You're no good ♪
385
00:18:27,878 --> 00:18:30,172
♪ Baby, you're no good ♪
386
00:18:30,798 --> 00:18:32,339
Completely fell in love.
387
00:18:32,340 --> 00:18:35,928
Those songs to me are so...
388
00:18:36,887 --> 00:18:40,472
They're like, um,
the Taylor Swift of that time,
389
00:18:40,473 --> 00:18:42,683
you know,
that-that powerful, like,
390
00:18:42,684 --> 00:18:44,770
"Oh, yes, I deserve the best.
391
00:18:44,895 --> 00:18:49,523
And I know exactly where I want
to stand and who I am."
392
00:18:49,524 --> 00:18:51,692
And that's vulnerability
and strength.
393
00:18:51,693 --> 00:18:55,738
And I think that every girl
can relate.
394
00:18:55,739 --> 00:18:57,531
"When Will I Be Loved,"
395
00:18:57,532 --> 00:19:00,828
it's kind of an upbeat song,
but it makes me emotional.
396
00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:06,292
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
397
00:19:07,001 --> 00:19:08,876
She was powerful.
398
00:19:08,877 --> 00:19:11,630
She was a huge part of music.
399
00:19:11,756 --> 00:19:14,757
She was with the Stones,
Dolly Parton,
400
00:19:14,758 --> 00:19:18,886
and she was the first woman
to headline full arena tours.
401
00:19:18,887 --> 00:19:21,180
She was her own trailblazer,
402
00:19:21,181 --> 00:19:24,600
and she knew deep down
that it was important for her
403
00:19:24,601 --> 00:19:27,146
to get in touch with her roots
404
00:19:27,271 --> 00:19:29,439
and to do something
that was daring.
405
00:19:32,777 --> 00:19:36,363
I think everybody did not want
her doing a Spanish album.
406
00:20:07,645 --> 00:20:10,106
She ended up
winning a Grammy,
407
00:20:11,023 --> 00:20:13,148
and the album is still
the biggest selling
408
00:20:13,149 --> 00:20:16,362
non-English-language record
in American history.
409
00:20:18,406 --> 00:20:19,988
Women like Linda Ronstadt,
410
00:20:19,989 --> 00:20:23,492
who pushed to embody
their heritage, set the stage
411
00:20:23,493 --> 00:20:26,412
for non-English-speaking
artists of today.
412
00:20:26,413 --> 00:20:29,123
There is a direct line
to Gloria Estefan,
413
00:20:29,124 --> 00:20:31,291
Selena Quintanilla, J.Lo,
414
00:20:31,292 --> 00:20:35,963
and full circle with artists
like Rosalia and Karol G today
415
00:20:35,964 --> 00:20:37,589
who are dominating the charts
416
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:39,969
without making albums
in English.
417
00:20:40,636 --> 00:20:43,011
There's a lot
to be said about women taking
418
00:20:43,012 --> 00:20:46,225
what is considered normal
and turning it on its head.
419
00:20:47,393 --> 00:20:49,601
When did you decide
to be larger than life?
420
00:20:49,602 --> 00:20:51,812
When did I decide
to be myself, really?
421
00:20:51,813 --> 00:20:53,647
I think that's what
it comes down to.
422
00:20:53,648 --> 00:20:56,235
You have to fearlessly go
into this madness,
423
00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,652
and you have to find your walk
424
00:20:58,653 --> 00:21:00,114
and you stick to it.
425
00:21:00,239 --> 00:21:02,114
If you stick to it
426
00:21:02,115 --> 00:21:04,325
and are true
to that and yourself...
427
00:21:07,288 --> 00:21:10,249
I can't think of
much else that really matters.
428
00:21:12,877 --> 00:21:16,422
The '90s are gonna make
the '60s look like the '50s.
429
00:21:16,547 --> 00:21:21,133
It was awesome
to be a little girl in the '90s
430
00:21:21,134 --> 00:21:24,511
in a time when so many
powerful women were coming up.
431
00:21:24,512 --> 00:21:27,433
We had the first female
attorney general,
432
00:21:27,558 --> 00:21:29,349
secretary of state,
433
00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:31,310
and the number of women
in the Senate
434
00:21:31,311 --> 00:21:33,939
had gone from two to twelve.
435
00:21:34,648 --> 00:21:36,692
I can be anything I want to be.
It's the '90s.
436
00:21:38,235 --> 00:21:40,613
Women were given these platforms
437
00:21:40,738 --> 00:21:43,239
that they may not have had
before.
438
00:21:44,367 --> 00:21:46,658
But, you know,
at the same time,
439
00:21:46,659 --> 00:21:49,536
you would see like
Girls Gone Wild ads on
440
00:21:49,537 --> 00:21:50,998
late at night.
441
00:21:53,334 --> 00:21:55,376
We saw this dichotomy
in popular culture
442
00:21:55,377 --> 00:21:59,671
and outright hostility
in the media towards women.
443
00:21:59,672 --> 00:22:02,301
Monica also said
that, uh, President Clinton
444
00:22:02,426 --> 00:22:05,012
would often compliment her
on her figure.
445
00:22:05,137 --> 00:22:06,261
If you didn't think this guy
446
00:22:06,262 --> 00:22:08,222
was the biggest liar
in the world before...
447
00:22:08,223 --> 00:22:09,642
You know, the last time
I saw you,
448
00:22:09,767 --> 00:22:11,310
were you this weight
or a different weight?
449
00:22:11,435 --> 00:22:12,518
I was a little skinnier then.
450
00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:14,021
- What's your name?
- Heather.
451
00:22:14,146 --> 00:22:17,398
Well, buddy. Heather, she's got
a fresh little crumpet.
452
00:22:17,399 --> 00:22:20,319
Are you guys ready
for your foxy boxers?
453
00:22:20,444 --> 00:22:24,490
If I don't get you to show
your breasts, I will get fired.
454
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,576
Bands like Bikini Kill
455
00:22:29,577 --> 00:22:31,245
were not here for that.
456
00:22:31,246 --> 00:22:34,250
This is for all those fuckers!
457
00:22:36,001 --> 00:22:38,003
Well, it was really hard
in the '90s
458
00:22:38,129 --> 00:22:40,463
to be a woman
in a feminist band.
459
00:22:41,966 --> 00:22:43,882
There were always feminists
in punk. Always.
460
00:22:43,883 --> 00:22:45,217
From the very beginning.
461
00:22:45,218 --> 00:22:46,470
But it had changed.
462
00:22:47,471 --> 00:22:50,556
Punk started as the soundtrack
to class warfare,
463
00:22:50,557 --> 00:22:53,853
and then it became about guys
who were, like, mad
464
00:22:53,978 --> 00:22:55,937
their mom wouldn't make them
a sandwich.
465
00:23:01,152 --> 00:23:03,362
As someone who was going
to shows, putting on shows,
466
00:23:03,487 --> 00:23:05,072
very involved
in the punk community,
467
00:23:05,197 --> 00:23:06,866
and I'm like, "Seriously?"
468
00:23:09,368 --> 00:23:12,371
I worked at a domestic violence
and rape relief crisis center
469
00:23:12,496 --> 00:23:15,664
when I was from 19 to about 24,
470
00:23:15,665 --> 00:23:17,833
and that really informed
the way I wrote lyrics
471
00:23:17,834 --> 00:23:19,295
and what I wrote about.
472
00:23:21,088 --> 00:23:24,923
I was so full of all of
this crisis and rage and pain,
473
00:23:24,924 --> 00:23:29,263
and like, how could I process
that without music?
474
00:23:40,358 --> 00:23:42,902
Girls always get pushed to the
back, and it's all this, like,
475
00:23:43,027 --> 00:23:45,944
sweaty boy, long hair,
beer belly thing in the front.
476
00:23:45,945 --> 00:23:49,116
Girls need to reclaim the scene
for themselves, I think.
477
00:23:50,201 --> 00:23:51,577
It did feel radical
478
00:23:51,702 --> 00:23:53,788
and it did feel
really dangerous.
479
00:23:54,372 --> 00:23:56,415
Men were standing up
and yelling,
480
00:23:56,540 --> 00:23:59,460
"Shut up and play the song.
Take it off."
481
00:24:09,095 --> 00:24:10,886
We really needed
to create community.
482
00:24:10,887 --> 00:24:12,932
So we started getting names
483
00:24:13,057 --> 00:24:14,807
of girls and women
who came to our shows
484
00:24:14,808 --> 00:24:17,061
and then inviting them
to come to our next gig.
485
00:24:17,645 --> 00:24:21,230
Eventually, me and my friend
Allison Wolfe from Bratmobile,
486
00:24:21,231 --> 00:24:24,485
we were like, "We're gonna have
a meeting with girl punks."
487
00:24:25,903 --> 00:24:28,447
But everyone had
horror stories.
488
00:24:28,572 --> 00:24:29,905
It started feeling like, "Hey,
489
00:24:29,906 --> 00:24:31,867
you know what people want?
They want support."
490
00:24:32,410 --> 00:24:33,619
People started skill-sharing.
491
00:24:33,744 --> 00:24:34,868
"Do you want to start a band?
492
00:24:34,869 --> 00:24:36,537
Do you want to start a press
493
00:24:36,538 --> 00:24:38,332
where we put out
a bunch of fan zines?"
494
00:24:38,457 --> 00:24:40,582
Like, "What do you want to do?"
495
00:24:40,583 --> 00:24:43,838
Eventually, the meetings became
known as riot grrrl meetings.
496
00:24:45,089 --> 00:24:49,049
Riot grrrl was not just
a genre of music.
497
00:24:49,050 --> 00:24:50,926
It was a movement.
498
00:24:50,927 --> 00:24:54,179
If you're a racist,
homophobic, sexist,
499
00:24:54,180 --> 00:24:56,432
or just a plain
fucking asshole,
500
00:24:56,433 --> 00:24:58,060
you will be asked to leave.
501
00:25:09,613 --> 00:25:11,780
I started saying
"girls to the front" at shows
502
00:25:11,781 --> 00:25:15,117
because why were we printing up
lyric sheets
503
00:25:15,118 --> 00:25:16,704
with our words on them
504
00:25:16,829 --> 00:25:18,412
to hand them out to dudes?
505
00:25:18,413 --> 00:25:20,041
That's not who I made them for.
506
00:25:20,833 --> 00:25:22,458
So I needed them to see
507
00:25:22,459 --> 00:25:25,294
Kathi's hands on the bass
and how easy it was.
508
00:25:25,295 --> 00:25:27,381
How are they gonna start bands
if they're stuck in the back
509
00:25:27,506 --> 00:25:29,341
where they can't even see?
510
00:25:29,467 --> 00:25:32,426
We wanted to have
that physical connection
511
00:25:32,427 --> 00:25:33,636
because connection is joy.
512
00:25:38,726 --> 00:25:42,102
Their movement
was about raising up women,
513
00:25:42,103 --> 00:25:45,898
and "Rebel Girl"
is this rallying cry
514
00:25:45,899 --> 00:25:47,860
for what this movement is.
515
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:55,949
When I wrote "Rebel Girl,"
516
00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:58,204
I was really working
with what it was like
517
00:25:58,329 --> 00:26:00,206
when I was a kid,
518
00:26:00,331 --> 00:26:02,289
before I sort of
got tamped down
519
00:26:02,290 --> 00:26:03,876
and made to feel less than.
520
00:26:04,585 --> 00:26:07,755
I remember watching my sister
ride around on her big wheel,
521
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,590
and I just thought
she was the coolest,
522
00:26:09,715 --> 00:26:11,884
and all the girls
I had crushes on
523
00:26:12,009 --> 00:26:13,967
in junior high and high school.
524
00:26:13,968 --> 00:26:16,929
I was just thinking about all
these amazing women I knew.
525
00:26:16,930 --> 00:26:19,014
And it just sort of came out.
526
00:26:19,015 --> 00:26:22,810
♪ Rebel girl ♪
527
00:26:22,811 --> 00:26:26,146
This whole movement set
the tone for what would come.
528
00:26:26,147 --> 00:26:27,566
♪ Rebel girl ♪
529
00:26:27,692 --> 00:26:29,191
♪ Rebel girl ♪
530
00:26:29,192 --> 00:26:30,736
♪ I really like you ♪
531
00:26:30,861 --> 00:26:33,904
♪ I really wanna be
Your best friend ♪
532
00:26:33,905 --> 00:26:38,034
♪ Be my rebel girl ♪
533
00:26:40,162 --> 00:26:42,915
In the '90s,
there was this really angry,
534
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,752
subversive, forceful thing
happening with punk rock.
535
00:26:47,878 --> 00:26:50,256
At the same time,
there were these parallel waves
536
00:26:50,381 --> 00:26:54,007
of feminism happening
in other genres,
537
00:26:54,008 --> 00:26:57,304
and this was especially notable
in women's hip hop.
538
00:27:01,892 --> 00:27:04,727
In the '90s, you kind of
saw a lot of gangsta rap
539
00:27:04,728 --> 00:27:06,562
being more in the forefront,
540
00:27:06,563 --> 00:27:09,314
and women in gangsta rap
541
00:27:09,315 --> 00:27:11,610
were not
multi-dimensional figures.
542
00:27:12,445 --> 00:27:15,071
You had songs like
"A Bitch Iz a Bitch."
543
00:27:20,911 --> 00:27:23,998
During my teenage years, I was
kinda like bopping along to it.
544
00:27:24,123 --> 00:27:25,330
Kind of like...
545
00:27:25,331 --> 00:27:26,750
this is not quite right.
546
00:27:28,836 --> 00:27:32,087
There had to be, at some point,
women breaking through
547
00:27:32,088 --> 00:27:33,547
and challenging the system.
548
00:27:33,548 --> 00:27:36,425
That's where we get women
like MC Lyte,
549
00:27:36,426 --> 00:27:38,927
Queen Latifah, Salt-N-Pepa,
550
00:27:38,928 --> 00:27:42,598
sort of pushing back
against this dominant archetype.
551
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:44,308
♪ Who you callin' a bitch? ♪
552
00:27:44,309 --> 00:27:46,268
♪ Yeah,
You gotta let them know ♪
553
00:27:46,269 --> 00:27:47,688
♪ U-N-I-T-Y ♪
554
00:27:48,189 --> 00:27:49,855
I was very lucky
that I had friends
555
00:27:49,856 --> 00:27:52,358
who turned me on to lots
of different kinds of music.
556
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,943
And when I heard "U.N.I.T.Y.,"
557
00:27:54,944 --> 00:27:56,697
I was like, "This is different."
558
00:27:57,281 --> 00:27:59,700
To be talking
about street harassment
559
00:27:59,825 --> 00:28:02,036
in a song that's on the radio,
560
00:28:02,161 --> 00:28:03,662
that everyone's listening to,
561
00:28:03,788 --> 00:28:06,288
was absolutely out of control.
562
00:28:06,289 --> 00:28:09,124
♪ I walked past these dudes,
When they passed me ♪
563
00:28:09,125 --> 00:28:11,670
♪ One of em' felt my booty,
He was nasty ♪
564
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:15,297
She put on paper
an experience
565
00:28:15,298 --> 00:28:17,466
that women could relate to,
566
00:28:17,467 --> 00:28:20,469
and that hadn't been done
in that way before,
567
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:22,262
on a rap song.
568
00:28:22,263 --> 00:28:27,770
It opens the lane
for this expression of anti.
569
00:28:31,482 --> 00:28:34,527
You know, I think a great way
to spread a message
570
00:28:34,652 --> 00:28:37,071
is for it to come across
as authentic.
571
00:28:37,196 --> 00:28:39,988
But it's kind of where
the authenticity feels
572
00:28:39,989 --> 00:28:43,119
shocking in a way
when we see it.
573
00:28:43,703 --> 00:28:46,453
With the '90s, what we saw
574
00:28:46,454 --> 00:28:48,831
was this reclamation of sex
575
00:28:48,832 --> 00:28:50,833
with artists like Lil' Kim
576
00:28:50,834 --> 00:28:53,045
and Foxy Brown
and Missy Elliott.
577
00:28:53,170 --> 00:28:55,170
♪ We got sex appeal,
I'ma keep it real ♪
578
00:28:55,171 --> 00:28:57,297
♪ If I didn't have a deal,
I'd still be worth a mill' ♪
579
00:28:57,298 --> 00:29:00,008
They were showing
that women
580
00:29:00,009 --> 00:29:01,887
and particularly,
you know, Black women
581
00:29:02,012 --> 00:29:03,597
can own sexuality.
582
00:29:05,057 --> 00:29:07,808
There's some subversion
at play.
583
00:29:07,809 --> 00:29:10,104
And "subversion"
actually is the word
584
00:29:10,229 --> 00:29:13,313
that I would most apply
to artists like Salt-N-Pepa
585
00:29:13,314 --> 00:29:16,483
who flipped the script
a lot of times.
586
00:29:16,484 --> 00:29:18,819
♪ Let's talk about sex, baby ♪
587
00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:19,947
♪ Let's talk about you and me ♪
588
00:29:20,072 --> 00:29:22,197
There's a way
that musicians
589
00:29:22,198 --> 00:29:24,116
can, like, sneak a message in,
590
00:29:24,117 --> 00:29:26,410
and "Let's Talk About Sex"
is the opposite.
591
00:29:26,411 --> 00:29:27,828
♪ I won't get got,
I'm on the pill ♪
592
00:29:27,829 --> 00:29:29,580
♪ Until the sores, spores ♪
593
00:29:29,581 --> 00:29:30,873
♪ And stuff pour
Down your drawers ♪
594
00:29:30,874 --> 00:29:31,917
♪ He gave it to you ♪
595
00:29:32,043 --> 00:29:33,043
♪ And now it's all yours ♪
596
00:29:35,212 --> 00:29:37,880
I think that we need to
really think about how artists
597
00:29:37,881 --> 00:29:40,174
are not just building
their own careers,
598
00:29:40,175 --> 00:29:42,428
but really building out culture.
599
00:29:42,553 --> 00:29:44,597
It's not just about making
the music.
600
00:29:44,722 --> 00:29:46,847
It's about engaging
with the community
601
00:29:46,848 --> 00:29:48,601
that the music is about.
602
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,479
We come in contact
with a lot of people
603
00:29:51,604 --> 00:29:53,105
that we became close with
604
00:29:53,230 --> 00:29:56,065
as far as AIDS,
you know, HIV positive.
605
00:29:56,066 --> 00:29:58,986
That's what really made us open
our eyes and be like,
606
00:29:59,111 --> 00:30:00,821
"Wow, you know,
this can happen to anybody."
607
00:30:00,946 --> 00:30:02,782
- Anybody.
- We feel, as rap artists,
608
00:30:02,907 --> 00:30:05,866
we have a responsibility to
the teenagers that listen to us,
609
00:30:05,867 --> 00:30:07,995
to let them know
it can happen to you too.
610
00:30:09,705 --> 00:30:12,664
Early hip hop
movement was really rooted
611
00:30:12,665 --> 00:30:16,337
in poor Black and Brown
communities.
612
00:30:16,921 --> 00:30:18,879
And all of these folks
that are talking
613
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,549
about really important things
that are also in schools,
614
00:30:22,550 --> 00:30:26,428
they're singing verses that
young people needed to hear.
615
00:30:26,429 --> 00:30:29,016
♪ Girls, you know
You'd better watch out ♪
616
00:30:29,141 --> 00:30:30,974
Being a kid, I fell asleep
617
00:30:30,975 --> 00:30:32,812
to The Miseducation
of Lauryn Hill.
618
00:30:32,937 --> 00:30:34,937
And I loved that album.
619
00:30:34,938 --> 00:30:36,271
Her voice was so powerful
620
00:30:36,272 --> 00:30:38,818
and just how she observed
the world.
621
00:30:40,444 --> 00:30:43,197
That album is structured
through the lens of a classroom.
622
00:30:44,031 --> 00:30:45,825
She's using that framing
623
00:30:45,950 --> 00:30:47,700
as a way to talk
about the importance
624
00:30:47,701 --> 00:30:51,997
of talking to kids
about the ideas on the album.
625
00:30:53,332 --> 00:30:55,835
She's talking
about motherhood,
626
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,170
she's talking about career,
627
00:30:58,295 --> 00:31:01,048
she's talking about
an extremely emotional breakup.
628
00:31:02,133 --> 00:31:04,883
But Miss Hill
was sort of saying to women,
629
00:31:04,884 --> 00:31:07,179
"Think twice, be careful,
protect yourself."
630
00:31:07,847 --> 00:31:11,640
Her album was very much
speaking about culture
631
00:31:11,641 --> 00:31:14,186
and the experience as a woman,
as a Black woman,
632
00:31:14,311 --> 00:31:17,064
and I feel like it's not
really easy to put into words
633
00:31:17,189 --> 00:31:19,525
what that does for you.
634
00:31:19,650 --> 00:31:21,610
But the representation
was everything.
635
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,820
Since Miseducation,
everybody's been begging you,
636
00:31:24,821 --> 00:31:26,782
"Come on, Lauryn,
give us something!"
637
00:31:27,992 --> 00:31:31,245
There's a lot that could force
an individual to compromise,
638
00:31:31,370 --> 00:31:33,247
and to me, for me to make music,
639
00:31:33,372 --> 00:31:35,330
it doesn't really make sense
for me to make music
640
00:31:35,331 --> 00:31:38,084
if I can't make something
that has a purpose.
641
00:31:42,006 --> 00:31:43,672
Lauryn is notorious,
obviously,
642
00:31:43,673 --> 00:31:46,594
because she's sort of retreated
from the spotlight.
643
00:31:47,762 --> 00:31:49,678
The costs
have been really high, like,
644
00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:52,892
this is the toll
of this business.
645
00:31:53,434 --> 00:31:56,977
I feel really moved by her
unwillingness to compromise.
646
00:31:56,978 --> 00:31:58,731
I'm still impressed by it.
647
00:31:59,190 --> 00:32:01,817
It's not always
the exact same contour of fight.
648
00:32:02,401 --> 00:32:04,694
But there's always
something more to be done.
649
00:32:07,031 --> 00:32:10,282
We have a common bond
that should help us transcend
650
00:32:10,283 --> 00:32:11,994
the next hard thing we do.
651
00:32:14,663 --> 00:32:17,583
No justice, no peace!
652
00:32:17,708 --> 00:32:20,294
There are certain moments
of rupture that are important.
653
00:32:21,128 --> 00:32:22,878
Demonstrations erupting today
654
00:32:22,879 --> 00:32:24,924
in the name of George Floyd.
655
00:32:25,716 --> 00:32:29,095
Protestors flooding the streets
and calling for justice.
656
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:31,637
Floyd, an unarmed Black man,
657
00:32:31,638 --> 00:32:33,847
died after being cuffed
and pinned to the ground
658
00:32:33,848 --> 00:32:35,101
by an officer's knee.
659
00:32:35,643 --> 00:32:38,688
Stop killing Black people!
660
00:32:39,605 --> 00:32:41,980
Activism, a lot of times,
is just like what's going on
661
00:32:41,981 --> 00:32:45,111
in your community that
kind of forces you to activate.
662
00:32:45,611 --> 00:32:48,862
The shock and horror
of what happened in 2020
663
00:32:48,863 --> 00:32:51,657
was so much
for everyone to bear.
664
00:32:51,658 --> 00:32:54,412
A moment that big
wakes people up.
665
00:32:55,121 --> 00:32:56,664
It means you have
to be present,
666
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:57,957
you have to be listening,
667
00:32:58,082 --> 00:32:59,125
you have to be learning,
668
00:32:59,250 --> 00:33:01,917
and you have to be speaking
about it.
669
00:33:01,918 --> 00:33:03,545
Shut it down!
670
00:33:07,258 --> 00:33:08,968
I can't breathe!
671
00:33:10,094 --> 00:33:11,552
I can't breathe!
672
00:33:11,553 --> 00:33:14,054
I was in the Bay Area,
at my mom's house,
673
00:33:14,055 --> 00:33:16,851
and I was seeing people
marching outside and, you know,
674
00:33:16,976 --> 00:33:18,644
on the news and on social media.
675
00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:21,270
I had to turn it off because
you're just watching that video
676
00:33:21,271 --> 00:33:25,568
over and over again,
and it's really, um, painful.
677
00:33:26,986 --> 00:33:28,736
And I had this old guitar
that I've had
678
00:33:28,737 --> 00:33:31,739
since I was like nine years old
and I just picked it up.
679
00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:33,907
I started playing those chords
and singing that chorus.
680
00:33:33,908 --> 00:33:35,910
♪ I can't breathe ♪
681
00:33:37,413 --> 00:33:40,541
♪ You're taking my life
From me ♪
682
00:33:42,043 --> 00:33:45,504
It is a painful thing
to tell a dark story.
683
00:33:46,338 --> 00:33:48,714
When a musician is vulnerable,
684
00:33:48,715 --> 00:33:51,467
we have space
to process our grief.
685
00:33:51,468 --> 00:33:54,053
All right, I'm not gonna lie,
I'm gonna cry.
686
00:33:54,054 --> 00:33:56,348
I was teared up, I got chills.
687
00:33:57,016 --> 00:34:01,020
People were telling me,
"This made my 70-year-old dad
688
00:34:01,145 --> 00:34:02,978
think differently."
People were telling me that.
689
00:34:02,979 --> 00:34:04,482
I was like,
"Wow, that's insane."
690
00:34:05,316 --> 00:34:07,649
Another man was like,
"I marched from Harlem
691
00:34:07,650 --> 00:34:10,320
to Brooklyn with a bunch
of people to this song."
692
00:34:13,657 --> 00:34:16,325
I think when we create music,
it can be more selfish
693
00:34:16,326 --> 00:34:17,912
and then it turns
into something else.
694
00:34:18,037 --> 00:34:19,578
I'm not thinking about
millions of people
695
00:34:19,579 --> 00:34:21,040
are going to hear this.
696
00:34:23,417 --> 00:34:27,795
Music is a universal language
and it-it allows somebody
697
00:34:27,796 --> 00:34:30,132
to help get out
what they're feeling.
698
00:34:31,509 --> 00:34:34,010
And that's vulnerability
and strength.
699
00:34:37,681 --> 00:34:39,934
You know,
people talk about stress.
700
00:34:40,518 --> 00:34:43,310
When you look at what
the legacy of that is,
701
00:34:43,311 --> 00:34:44,645
the inheritance of that,
702
00:34:44,646 --> 00:34:48,109
the ancestral bequeathing
of that,
703
00:34:48,234 --> 00:34:50,317
I'm living with that stress.
704
00:34:50,318 --> 00:34:52,697
It's in my bones.
It's in my DNA.
705
00:34:53,531 --> 00:34:56,742
But singing helps to release
some of that.
706
00:34:57,535 --> 00:34:59,284
When I went back home
to North Carolina,
707
00:34:59,285 --> 00:35:02,415
I started reading
enslaved people's narratives.
708
00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:05,040
It's an amazing experience
to sit in a library
709
00:35:05,041 --> 00:35:06,585
looking at somebody's diary
710
00:35:06,711 --> 00:35:08,587
or a letter
that they've written.
711
00:35:08,713 --> 00:35:10,756
"Oh, I'm sorry it took me
so long to write."
712
00:35:10,881 --> 00:35:12,339
I mean, some things
are universal.
713
00:35:12,340 --> 00:35:13,926
"I was sick." You know,
714
00:35:14,051 --> 00:35:15,843
"I'm sorry it took me
so long to write you.
715
00:35:15,844 --> 00:35:17,386
And the weather's been
really crap.
716
00:35:17,387 --> 00:35:19,513
And the crops are...
You know, they're doing okay.
717
00:35:19,514 --> 00:35:22,309
And we sold Sally last week,
and I bought a new dress."
718
00:35:23,227 --> 00:35:24,437
It's like that.
719
00:35:24,937 --> 00:35:27,688
It's like that.
720
00:35:27,689 --> 00:35:29,650
I didn't know what to do
with these emotions,
721
00:35:29,775 --> 00:35:30,899
thinking about these women
722
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:33,193
and the lives
that they had to lead.
723
00:35:33,194 --> 00:35:34,655
So I started writing songs.
724
00:35:37,074 --> 00:35:39,408
Probably my most well known one
of these is called
725
00:35:39,409 --> 00:35:40,995
"At The Purchaser's Option."
726
00:35:52,506 --> 00:35:54,133
So I found an ad,
727
00:35:54,258 --> 00:35:56,341
and it was for a young woman
who was for sale.
728
00:35:56,342 --> 00:35:58,385
At the end of the ad,
it says she has with her
729
00:35:58,386 --> 00:35:59,972
a nine-month-old baby
730
00:36:00,097 --> 00:36:01,932
who is at
the purchaser's option.
731
00:36:02,767 --> 00:36:05,269
She has with her a baby.
You can buy it or not.
732
00:36:06,145 --> 00:36:08,354
And I thought about
that young woman.
733
00:36:08,355 --> 00:36:10,606
I imagine her lying on the bed,
734
00:36:10,607 --> 00:36:12,818
her little nine-month-old baby
next to her.
735
00:36:12,943 --> 00:36:14,109
She opens up her eyes,
736
00:36:14,110 --> 00:36:16,528
not knowing
how that day is gonna end.
737
00:36:16,529 --> 00:36:18,739
Is she gonna be
with that little baby?
738
00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:21,660
Do you love them the less
because you never know
739
00:36:21,786 --> 00:36:23,952
if they're gonna stay with you?
Of course you don't.
740
00:36:23,953 --> 00:36:27,458
So all of these questions
go into that song.
741
00:36:27,583 --> 00:36:29,168
♪ You can take my body ♪
742
00:36:29,293 --> 00:36:31,003
♪ You can take my bones ♪
743
00:36:31,128 --> 00:36:32,753
♪ You can take my blood ♪
744
00:36:32,754 --> 00:36:34,463
♪ But not my soul ♪
745
00:36:34,464 --> 00:36:35,589
♪ You can take my body ♪
746
00:36:35,590 --> 00:36:37,424
It's heavy.
747
00:36:37,425 --> 00:36:40,346
But I feel like
it's what I'm here to do.
748
00:36:42,264 --> 00:36:44,892
Even as music
helps us process pain,
749
00:36:45,017 --> 00:36:47,269
it also unites us in joy.
750
00:36:48,521 --> 00:36:50,898
From the beginning of the fight
for civil rights,
751
00:36:51,023 --> 00:36:52,941
there was always the music.
752
00:36:54,819 --> 00:36:56,485
From the churches
753
00:36:56,486 --> 00:36:58,072
to the streets
754
00:36:58,197 --> 00:36:59,822
to the nation's capital.
755
00:36:59,823 --> 00:37:03,244
Music has given people
the strength to keep going.
756
00:37:03,369 --> 00:37:04,493
Lena.
757
00:37:04,494 --> 00:37:05,786
Odetta.
758
00:37:05,787 --> 00:37:08,163
Mavis. Marian.
759
00:37:08,164 --> 00:37:10,751
They showed us
that the more you speak out,
760
00:37:10,876 --> 00:37:13,128
the more you can change
the world.
761
00:37:17,717 --> 00:37:20,553
But we've also learned
that the louder you are,
762
00:37:20,678 --> 00:37:22,511
the more the forces
of oppression
763
00:37:22,512 --> 00:37:24,140
will try to silence you.
764
00:37:31,605 --> 00:37:33,772
Dynamite exploded
on a Sunday morning,
765
00:37:33,773 --> 00:37:35,901
killed four little girls
in Sunday school.
766
00:37:37,528 --> 00:37:40,865
When the kids
got killed in that church,
767
00:37:42,241 --> 00:37:45,077
first you get depressed,
and after that, you get mad.
768
00:37:45,619 --> 00:37:47,453
And when these kids got bombed,
769
00:37:47,454 --> 00:37:49,290
I just sat down
and wrote this song.
770
00:37:51,083 --> 00:37:55,502
She saw the 16th Street
Baptist Church bombing,
771
00:37:55,503 --> 00:37:57,337
and she was fed up with it,
772
00:37:57,338 --> 00:37:59,425
and she wrote
"Mississippi Goddam."
773
00:37:59,550 --> 00:38:02,217
♪ Alabama's got me so upset ♪
774
00:38:02,218 --> 00:38:05,095
♪ Tennessee made me
Lose my rest ♪
775
00:38:05,096 --> 00:38:09,977
♪ And everybody knows about
Mississippi Goddam ♪
776
00:38:10,102 --> 00:38:11,604
She's just channeling
777
00:38:11,729 --> 00:38:15,733
so much ancestral emotion,
grief.
778
00:38:15,858 --> 00:38:19,193
♪ I can't stand the pressure
Much longer ♪
779
00:38:19,194 --> 00:38:21,280
♪ Somebody say a prayer ♪
780
00:38:21,405 --> 00:38:24,656
She's performing
to largely white audiences,
781
00:38:24,657 --> 00:38:27,453
performing to people
who might not want to hear it.
782
00:38:32,458 --> 00:38:35,127
...telling me that it was
in bad taste.
783
00:38:35,252 --> 00:38:37,797
And, you know, how could I stoop
to this? Et cetera.
784
00:38:37,922 --> 00:38:39,465
They missed the whole point.
785
00:38:42,301 --> 00:38:44,718
I think she saw
that all she could do
786
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,886
was make art
787
00:38:45,887 --> 00:38:48,806
and try to speak
on behalf of others.
788
00:38:48,807 --> 00:38:51,100
♪ Alabama's got me so upset ♪
789
00:38:51,101 --> 00:38:54,436
♪ And Governor Wallace
Has made me lose my rest ♪
790
00:38:54,437 --> 00:38:59,527
♪ Everybody knows about
Mississippi Goddam ♪
791
00:39:00,027 --> 00:39:01,153
That's it!
792
00:39:05,116 --> 00:39:07,535
And then she's done,
and she bows,
793
00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:09,370
you know, gracefully.
794
00:39:10,121 --> 00:39:12,246
And I love that.
That just shows everything.
795
00:39:12,247 --> 00:39:14,500
She's a genius.
796
00:39:14,625 --> 00:39:17,292
She was good friends
with James Baldwin
797
00:39:17,293 --> 00:39:19,962
and other artists of the time.
798
00:39:19,963 --> 00:39:22,214
They were part
of a greater community
799
00:39:22,215 --> 00:39:24,967
of artists, writers, activists
800
00:39:24,968 --> 00:39:28,681
that were coming together
for a common cause,
801
00:39:28,806 --> 00:39:30,224
equality.
802
00:39:31,016 --> 00:39:33,100
It's important to know
how much power you have
803
00:39:33,101 --> 00:39:35,896
and utilize it in ways
that will outlive you.
804
00:39:37,356 --> 00:39:42,109
When I'm finished
working, as tired as I am,
805
00:39:42,110 --> 00:39:45,779
when there are kids
who come backstage afterwards
806
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:48,743
who want to talk,
or who are moved to the point,
807
00:39:48,868 --> 00:39:50,619
sometimes they're moved
to tears,
808
00:39:51,203 --> 00:39:54,915
I find the time to do so
as much as I can.
809
00:39:55,041 --> 00:39:57,168
They are our future.
810
00:39:58,002 --> 00:40:01,128
I never intend for my children
to look at me and be ashamed
811
00:40:01,129 --> 00:40:03,215
and say, "Mama,
why didn't you do something?"
812
00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:05,301
I will have done mine.
813
00:40:06,177 --> 00:40:09,845
We continue to benefit
from the stand that Nina took,
814
00:40:09,846 --> 00:40:12,973
though I would imagine
she'd still have a lot to say
815
00:40:12,974 --> 00:40:16,062
if she saw the division
that's in music today.
816
00:40:19,398 --> 00:40:21,106
Hope y'all feeling good.
817
00:40:21,107 --> 00:40:22,902
Give it up for the Dixie Chicks.
818
00:40:23,027 --> 00:40:26,320
I remember
the uproar over Beyoncé
819
00:40:26,321 --> 00:40:28,113
at the Country Music Awards,
820
00:40:28,114 --> 00:40:30,491
performing
with the Dixie Chicks.
821
00:40:30,492 --> 00:40:33,202
Dixie Chicks got
in a lot of trouble
822
00:40:33,203 --> 00:40:35,412
standing up
against the war in Iraq.
823
00:40:35,413 --> 00:40:38,918
♪ Daddy made a soldier
Out of me ♪
824
00:40:39,043 --> 00:40:42,296
There were a lot
of sour faces in that audience.
825
00:40:42,421 --> 00:40:45,047
What she walked away with
was the impression
826
00:40:45,048 --> 00:40:46,382
that she wasn't welcome.
827
00:40:46,383 --> 00:40:49,470
I think that people painting
828
00:40:49,595 --> 00:40:52,598
country music
as this, like, white utopia,
829
00:40:52,723 --> 00:40:56,268
it's... pure fabrication.
830
00:40:56,936 --> 00:40:59,939
For Beyoncé,
she grew up in Texas.
831
00:41:00,064 --> 00:41:02,356
You know, this is
her culture too.
832
00:41:02,357 --> 00:41:04,858
Like, she's gonna claim it.
833
00:41:04,859 --> 00:41:06,694
Global superstar Beyoncé
834
00:41:06,695 --> 00:41:07,947
reveals the cover art
835
00:41:08,072 --> 00:41:10,282
for her next album,
Cowboy Carter.
836
00:41:10,408 --> 00:41:12,366
♪ This ain't Texas ♪
837
00:41:12,367 --> 00:41:14,493
- ♪ Woo ♪
- ♪ Ain't no hold 'em ♪
838
00:41:14,494 --> 00:41:16,370
"Texas Hold 'Em," which made her
839
00:41:16,371 --> 00:41:18,997
the first Black female artist
to reach the top
840
00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:22,461
of the Billboard
Hot Country Songs chart.
841
00:41:22,586 --> 00:41:24,587
Her Instagram reading...
842
00:41:33,472 --> 00:41:35,514
Rhiannon Giddens. Her banjo
843
00:41:35,515 --> 00:41:38,644
is the first thing you hear
on "Texas Hold 'Em."
844
00:41:38,769 --> 00:41:40,436
The "Stay in your lane,"
845
00:41:40,437 --> 00:41:42,604
the "Well,
that's not real country,"
846
00:41:42,605 --> 00:41:44,025
that's just racism.
847
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:45,733
Americana, country.
848
00:41:45,734 --> 00:41:48,863
All of it comes out of
cross-cultural collaboration.
849
00:41:48,988 --> 00:41:51,030
But if you don't know
that Black people
850
00:41:51,031 --> 00:41:53,198
were a huge part
of that collaboration,
851
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,577
you get a really skewed picture
of what America is.
852
00:41:56,578 --> 00:41:58,998
When I first started
singing country music,
853
00:41:59,123 --> 00:42:01,167
I was like, scared. I was like,
854
00:42:01,292 --> 00:42:04,293
"There aren't really any
Black people in country music."
855
00:42:04,294 --> 00:42:07,588
And I Googled
"Black female country singers."
856
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:09,467
I found a woman
named Linda Martell.
857
00:42:10,301 --> 00:42:13,054
Linda Martell's
first single in 1969
858
00:42:13,179 --> 00:42:14,847
was a huge hit.
859
00:42:14,972 --> 00:42:18,098
She performed on popular
TV shows like Hee Haw
860
00:42:18,099 --> 00:42:20,434
and at venues
like the Grand Ole Opry.
861
00:42:20,435 --> 00:42:23,356
And before Beyoncé, Martell
was the highest slotting
862
00:42:23,481 --> 00:42:26,148
Black female singer
on the country charts.
863
00:42:26,149 --> 00:42:29,570
Martell later revealed
a dispiriting story
864
00:42:29,695 --> 00:42:32,406
about that period of her life.
865
00:42:32,531 --> 00:42:35,034
She had originally signed
with a label called
866
00:42:35,159 --> 00:42:37,951
SSS International Records
867
00:42:37,952 --> 00:42:39,538
and was totally unaware
868
00:42:39,663 --> 00:42:41,663
that they had decided
to release her music
869
00:42:41,664 --> 00:42:43,290
on their sister label
870
00:42:43,291 --> 00:42:45,086
called Plantation.
871
00:42:45,669 --> 00:42:48,170
Feeling rightfully misled
and disrespected,
872
00:42:48,171 --> 00:42:49,630
she left the label,
873
00:42:49,631 --> 00:42:52,132
and when she tried to take
her music elsewhere,
874
00:42:52,133 --> 00:42:54,301
Plantation threatened
to sue any company
875
00:42:54,302 --> 00:42:55,721
that released a song with her.
876
00:42:55,846 --> 00:42:58,099
She ended up leaving
the music industry
877
00:42:58,224 --> 00:43:01,811
and ultimately supported
herself as a school bus driver.
878
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,731
I think of music as a matter
of historical record
879
00:43:05,856 --> 00:43:08,482
and a matter of history keeping,
880
00:43:08,483 --> 00:43:10,903
and that particular example,
881
00:43:11,028 --> 00:43:12,905
I think, was representative
882
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:15,364
of the state of the country.
883
00:43:15,365 --> 00:43:17,700
I think her story
is all too common.
884
00:43:17,701 --> 00:43:20,579
That is actually more
of the refrain of women,
885
00:43:20,705 --> 00:43:22,748
and especially Black women
in the music industry,
886
00:43:22,873 --> 00:43:25,290
not just like they flamed out
or they weren't good enough
887
00:43:25,291 --> 00:43:27,376
or they couldn't hack it.
888
00:43:27,377 --> 00:43:30,631
It's like, actually, they were
kind of set up for failure.
889
00:43:32,842 --> 00:43:35,718
When I first
started going to record labels,
890
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,885
there was a president.
891
00:43:36,886 --> 00:43:39,724
He was questioning
if I was authentic.
892
00:43:40,266 --> 00:43:43,436
He was questioning where I was
from and questioning who I was.
893
00:43:43,561 --> 00:43:46,562
And I'm like, I grew up
in Crawford, Texas.
894
00:43:46,563 --> 00:43:49,023
It doesn't get any countrier
than that.
895
00:43:49,024 --> 00:43:50,443
And then he said,
896
00:43:50,568 --> 00:43:53,402
"Can you take those songs
that you're writing
897
00:43:53,403 --> 00:43:55,114
and put a smile on it?"
898
00:43:55,656 --> 00:43:58,993
I needed to downplay
everything that I was,
899
00:43:59,118 --> 00:44:00,534
and I lost myself.
900
00:44:00,535 --> 00:44:03,579
♪ When I first saw
That bikini top on her ♪
901
00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:06,498
♪ She's popping right out
Of the south Georgia water ♪
902
00:44:06,499 --> 00:44:08,502
There was a movement
that had happened
903
00:44:08,627 --> 00:44:09,837
when I was first coming up
904
00:44:09,962 --> 00:44:11,545
called the bro-country movement.
905
00:44:11,546 --> 00:44:14,089
Everybody had trap beats
in their songs,
906
00:44:14,090 --> 00:44:16,258
and they were all going
like this in their songs
907
00:44:16,259 --> 00:44:18,552
and like going like this
in their songs,
908
00:44:18,553 --> 00:44:19,972
calling it country.
909
00:44:20,097 --> 00:44:23,015
And then I was turning in songs
and they were like,
910
00:44:23,016 --> 00:44:25,392
"Mm, you need to make sure
that sounds more country,
911
00:44:25,393 --> 00:44:28,022
because people are gonna think
that you're not authentic."
912
00:44:28,147 --> 00:44:31,857
I was watching myself
struggling as a Black woman,
913
00:44:31,858 --> 00:44:36,236
and, um, I sat with my husband
and I asked him,
914
00:44:36,237 --> 00:44:39,825
"Why do you think country music
isn't working for me?"
915
00:44:40,284 --> 00:44:42,785
And he says, "Because you're
running away from your Blackness
916
00:44:42,786 --> 00:44:44,411
and you're running away
from everything
917
00:44:44,412 --> 00:44:45,579
that makes you different."
918
00:44:45,580 --> 00:44:47,081
And he said, "You know,
919
00:44:47,082 --> 00:44:49,083
country music
is three chords and the truth.
920
00:44:49,084 --> 00:44:50,878
So why aren't you writing
country music
921
00:44:51,003 --> 00:44:52,461
from your perspective?"
922
00:44:52,462 --> 00:44:55,341
I was like, "Hm, why am I not?"
923
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:58,677
So I wrote a song
called "Black Like Me."
924
00:44:58,803 --> 00:45:01,804
♪ If you think we live ♪
925
00:45:01,805 --> 00:45:04,350
♪ In the land of the free ♪
926
00:45:04,475 --> 00:45:09,645
♪ You should try to be
Black like me ♪
927
00:45:09,646 --> 00:45:11,313
It got a lot of hate.
928
00:45:11,314 --> 00:45:12,692
People were pissed.
929
00:45:13,651 --> 00:45:15,609
It was at a time
a country artist
930
00:45:15,610 --> 00:45:17,238
got caught saying the N-word.
931
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,199
This is what's happening
in this genre.
932
00:45:20,324 --> 00:45:23,202
Like, you think I'm lying?
Like, this is what's happening.
933
00:45:23,327 --> 00:45:25,871
And the things
people said to me,
934
00:45:25,996 --> 00:45:28,374
"Get your ghetto ass
out of country music.
935
00:45:28,499 --> 00:45:29,833
Effing N-Word."
936
00:45:31,669 --> 00:45:34,672
♪ Oh, now ♪
937
00:45:34,797 --> 00:45:39,719
♪ Now I'm all grown up
And nothing has changed ♪
938
00:45:40,344 --> 00:45:42,636
♪ Yeah, it's still the same ♪
939
00:45:42,637 --> 00:45:46,682
You can't truly see change
until you start helping
940
00:45:46,683 --> 00:45:48,602
other artists
that are coming after you.
941
00:45:50,229 --> 00:45:51,979
My God! No!
942
00:45:51,980 --> 00:45:54,275
Are you Mickey? Hello.
943
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,403
I never thought
that I would be able to have
944
00:45:57,528 --> 00:45:59,319
these types of possibilities
945
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,031
all because I just stood up
and said, "No."
946
00:46:02,032 --> 00:46:07,621
♪ And I'm proud to be
Black like me ♪
947
00:46:08,372 --> 00:46:13,294
♪ Proud to be Black like me ♪
948
00:46:14,086 --> 00:46:16,756
The storytelling
can cut across genre,
949
00:46:16,881 --> 00:46:20,632
but it carries a through line
of refusal
950
00:46:20,633 --> 00:46:24,511
to be crushed
by what seems to be a system
951
00:46:24,512 --> 00:46:26,932
that does not care
for your existence.
952
00:46:27,808 --> 00:46:32,938
Tracy Chapman was one of
those fantastic storytellers.
953
00:46:33,064 --> 00:46:35,689
She talks about
working-class challenges
954
00:46:35,690 --> 00:46:39,360
in a way that is universal
but so specific.
955
00:46:39,361 --> 00:46:41,195
♪ Don't you know ♪
956
00:46:41,196 --> 00:46:44,617
♪ They're talking
About a revolution? ♪
957
00:46:44,742 --> 00:46:46,994
♪ It sounds like a whisper ♪
958
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,497
I wrote the song,
"Talkin' 'bout a Revolution,"
959
00:46:49,622 --> 00:46:51,914
when I was 16.
960
00:46:51,915 --> 00:46:54,794
I received a scholarship
to go to boarding school,
961
00:46:55,294 --> 00:46:58,670
and it was a really difficult
transition for me.
962
00:46:58,671 --> 00:47:01,133
I found that people
at the school
963
00:47:01,258 --> 00:47:03,425
really didn't have
a sense of where
964
00:47:03,426 --> 00:47:06,806
the scholarship students like
myself, where we come from,
965
00:47:06,931 --> 00:47:09,183
and they also really
didn't have much interest.
966
00:47:09,308 --> 00:47:12,434
And, uh, I was really angry
about that.
967
00:47:12,435 --> 00:47:14,814
♪ Poor people gonna rise up ♪
968
00:47:15,690 --> 00:47:17,523
♪ And get their share ♪
969
00:47:17,524 --> 00:47:20,152
As a teenager,
I discovered her music.
970
00:47:20,277 --> 00:47:22,861
And for me,
that was this moment
971
00:47:22,862 --> 00:47:26,615
where all of the pent-up
and sort of burgeoning,
972
00:47:26,616 --> 00:47:29,995
you know, righteous indignation
found a voice.
973
00:47:30,121 --> 00:47:32,413
What was I upset about?
What could I do?
974
00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:34,790
Those songs really told me,
975
00:47:34,791 --> 00:47:36,625
"These are the things
you should demand."
976
00:47:36,626 --> 00:47:40,172
And today I come to you
as a young person,
977
00:47:40,297 --> 00:47:41,549
as a young woman,
978
00:47:41,674 --> 00:47:43,257
as a young Black woman,
979
00:47:43,258 --> 00:47:45,219
to ask you to use us.
980
00:47:45,344 --> 00:47:48,347
Use the young people
of the United States of America
981
00:47:48,472 --> 00:47:50,683
to pave a road
that will last forever.
982
00:47:51,267 --> 00:47:52,933
Tracy gave words to it
983
00:47:52,934 --> 00:47:55,521
in such lyrical
and beautiful fashion
984
00:47:55,646 --> 00:47:57,690
that I carry it with me
to this day.
985
00:47:57,815 --> 00:48:00,315
♪ You got a fast car ♪
986
00:48:00,316 --> 00:48:03,029
♪ And I want a ticket
To anywhere ♪
987
00:48:03,154 --> 00:48:05,654
♪ Maybe we make a deal ♪
988
00:48:05,655 --> 00:48:08,866
♪ Maybe together
We can get somewhere ♪
989
00:48:08,867 --> 00:48:11,871
"Fast Car" is talking
about not just poverty,
990
00:48:11,996 --> 00:48:15,583
but the cycles of violence
that are more relevant today.
991
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:18,544
It's a song
about someone trying to break
992
00:48:18,669 --> 00:48:20,127
intergenerational patterns,
993
00:48:20,128 --> 00:48:23,130
and I just feel like
it's such a classic narrative,
994
00:48:23,131 --> 00:48:26,508
needing to carve out
an identity for yourself.
995
00:48:26,509 --> 00:48:28,721
There was something
about the small-town angst
996
00:48:28,846 --> 00:48:30,637
and desire
to go somewhere else.
997
00:48:30,638 --> 00:48:33,015
♪ You got a fast car ♪
998
00:48:33,016 --> 00:48:35,476
♪ Is it fast enough
So you can fly away? ♪
999
00:48:35,477 --> 00:48:37,644
That moment,
her at the Grammys,
1000
00:48:37,645 --> 00:48:39,231
there was something
really remarkable
1001
00:48:39,357 --> 00:48:40,733
about how they shared
the stage.
1002
00:48:40,858 --> 00:48:43,108
Like, we saw Tracy first.
1003
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:45,027
She was glowing.
1004
00:48:45,028 --> 00:48:47,988
And Luke's relationship
to her on stage
1005
00:48:47,989 --> 00:48:51,911
was of such reverence
and respect.
1006
00:48:52,453 --> 00:48:55,454
Even the way he sings the song.
He doesn't change the pronouns.
1007
00:48:55,455 --> 00:48:57,831
He doesn't do the things
that men in general might do
1008
00:48:57,832 --> 00:49:00,168
to feel like, "Oh, I have
to de-feminize the song."
1009
00:49:05,383 --> 00:49:09,760
♪ I-I had a feeling
I could be someone ♪
1010
00:49:09,761 --> 00:49:12,098
The power of music
1011
00:49:12,223 --> 00:49:15,974
comes from its ability
to change its shape over time.
1012
00:49:15,975 --> 00:49:18,811
What began as a song
about urban poverty
1013
00:49:18,812 --> 00:49:21,522
could, four decades later,
be transformed
1014
00:49:21,523 --> 00:49:24,068
into a modern country anthem.
1015
00:49:24,652 --> 00:49:28,070
Any time a marginalized group
finds itself alone,
1016
00:49:28,071 --> 00:49:30,864
without power, un-listened to,
1017
00:49:30,865 --> 00:49:33,661
you can bet it has
a song to sing.
1018
00:49:34,245 --> 00:49:37,373
And it's only a matter of time
until a voice emerges.
1019
00:49:40,459 --> 00:49:42,461
My name is
Melissa Etheridge.
1020
00:49:42,586 --> 00:49:47,383
I am a mother and a wife
and a rock star.
1021
00:49:49,093 --> 00:49:50,884
When I turned 21,
1022
00:49:50,885 --> 00:49:54,930
I knew that Los Angeles was
where the record industry was.
1023
00:49:54,931 --> 00:49:57,143
This was 1982.
1024
00:49:57,268 --> 00:50:01,104
I had just come out of
the glorious '70s of folk rock.
1025
00:50:05,443 --> 00:50:07,443
The Eagles and Jackson Browne
1026
00:50:07,444 --> 00:50:09,278
and-and Fleetwood Mac.
1027
00:50:09,279 --> 00:50:12,281
So I travel out to California.
1028
00:50:12,282 --> 00:50:14,033
I'm like, "Here I am," you know.
1029
00:50:14,034 --> 00:50:17,119
And I realized what's happening
in Los Angeles
1030
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,413
is a lot of hair
1031
00:50:19,414 --> 00:50:21,000
and a lot of spandex,
1032
00:50:21,125 --> 00:50:24,170
and there's no acoustic guitars
anymore.
1033
00:50:26,464 --> 00:50:29,508
As the weeks went by,
my money was running out,
1034
00:50:29,633 --> 00:50:31,385
and I'm like,
"What am I gonna do?"
1035
00:50:33,012 --> 00:50:34,470
I was a lesbian
1036
00:50:34,471 --> 00:50:38,265
and I went to some bars
in Los Angeles
1037
00:50:38,266 --> 00:50:40,100
and I met some ladies.
1038
00:50:40,101 --> 00:50:43,146
And one of them, I went
on a date down in Long Beach.
1039
00:50:46,359 --> 00:50:47,649
She took me to a club.
1040
00:50:47,650 --> 00:50:49,318
It was called
the Executive Suite.
1041
00:50:49,319 --> 00:50:51,153
It used to be a steakhouse,
1042
00:50:51,154 --> 00:50:52,988
and the Russian mob
had bought it,
1043
00:50:52,989 --> 00:50:55,076
and it was now
a, uh, lesbian bar.
1044
00:50:56,202 --> 00:50:57,659
They had a piano in the corner.
1045
00:50:57,660 --> 00:50:59,953
I said, "Hey, do you have
live music?" And...
1046
00:50:59,954 --> 00:51:01,455
I auditioned, got the job.
1047
00:51:01,456 --> 00:51:03,959
♪ Yeah, just like a movie ♪
1048
00:51:04,919 --> 00:51:08,003
And it put me in an atmosphere
1049
00:51:08,004 --> 00:51:11,217
of the lesbian movement of 1982.
1050
00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:15,511
These women were coming
into the bars that I played at.
1051
00:51:15,512 --> 00:51:18,891
They were signing people up,
registering them to vote.
1052
00:51:19,016 --> 00:51:22,728
So I was slowly being...
1053
00:51:23,938 --> 00:51:26,772
taught, really, about politics,
1054
00:51:26,773 --> 00:51:29,944
and we were in the midst
of a huge backlash.
1055
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:32,361
There is so much hatred
and persecution
1056
00:51:32,362 --> 00:51:34,240
of gay people in our society.
1057
00:51:34,365 --> 00:51:37,743
In the '80s
with HIV/AIDS,
1058
00:51:37,868 --> 00:51:39,912
there was just
rampant homophobia.
1059
00:51:40,037 --> 00:51:42,581
Ambulance drivers
have refused to take
1060
00:51:42,707 --> 00:51:44,498
AIDS patients on occasion.
1061
00:51:44,499 --> 00:51:47,835
He asked one of the attendants,
he told them I had AIDS.
1062
00:51:47,836 --> 00:51:52,091
And the person said, outright,
"I'm not touching him."
1063
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,134
Just like that.
1064
00:51:56,220 --> 00:51:58,431
I am not HIV positive.
1065
00:51:59,765 --> 00:52:01,183
But what if I were?
1066
00:52:02,476 --> 00:52:05,185
I would be more afraid
of how society would treat me
1067
00:52:05,186 --> 00:52:08,357
for having the disease
than the actual disease itself.
1068
00:52:09,316 --> 00:52:14,903
Madonna was extremely vocal
during the AIDS crisis.
1069
00:52:14,904 --> 00:52:17,573
She turned out to take part
in a charity dance marathon
1070
00:52:17,574 --> 00:52:18,951
to benefit AIDS victims.
1071
00:52:19,076 --> 00:52:20,534
I'm really here for two reasons.
1072
00:52:20,535 --> 00:52:24,079
Number one is because I really
believe in AIDS Project LA.
1073
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,001
And the second reason I'm here
is 'cause I love to dance.
1074
00:52:30,504 --> 00:52:32,465
When she released
Like a Prayer,
1075
00:52:32,590 --> 00:52:35,174
the album had an insert
1076
00:52:35,175 --> 00:52:38,012
to inform people
about HIV/AIDS.
1077
00:52:38,596 --> 00:52:40,512
So if you bought
a Madonna record,
1078
00:52:40,513 --> 00:52:43,432
you were getting
an informational booklet,
1079
00:52:43,433 --> 00:52:45,267
and it essentially read,
1080
00:52:45,268 --> 00:52:47,980
"Here are some basic facts
you should know about it,"
1081
00:52:48,105 --> 00:52:51,023
and you bought it
whether you wanted it or not,
1082
00:52:51,024 --> 00:52:53,652
because it was
in your Madonna record.
1083
00:52:54,528 --> 00:52:56,236
And then, of course,
after that we saw
1084
00:52:56,237 --> 00:52:59,617
that she went on to become
like a huge activist.
1085
00:53:00,284 --> 00:53:02,451
I deal with a lot
of topical issues,
1086
00:53:02,452 --> 00:53:05,664
family issues, and, you know,
1087
00:53:05,790 --> 00:53:07,289
what I think to be a big problem
1088
00:53:07,290 --> 00:53:09,375
in the United States,
and that's homophobia.
1089
00:53:09,376 --> 00:53:11,670
If you keep putting something
in somebody's face,
1090
00:53:11,796 --> 00:53:13,253
eventually, you know,
1091
00:53:13,254 --> 00:53:15,091
maybe they can come
to terms with it.
1092
00:53:15,633 --> 00:53:18,801
She was just,
like, so in your face
1093
00:53:18,802 --> 00:53:21,889
because it's like, you know,
her entire-- her dance crew,
1094
00:53:22,014 --> 00:53:24,306
her makeup artists,
her hairstylists.
1095
00:53:24,307 --> 00:53:27,393
She is flanked by queer people.
1096
00:53:27,394 --> 00:53:30,398
And she stood up for them,
which is everything.
1097
00:53:31,148 --> 00:53:33,315
Her boldness was part of a push
1098
00:53:33,316 --> 00:53:36,402
towards more visibility
for queer people.
1099
00:53:36,403 --> 00:53:38,906
She helped destigmatize
people in the community
1100
00:53:39,031 --> 00:53:41,033
and encouraged them
to come out.
1101
00:53:41,992 --> 00:53:43,951
Gays need to have
more role models,
1102
00:53:43,952 --> 00:53:46,080
people who-who are
in powerful positions
1103
00:53:46,205 --> 00:53:47,663
coming out
and saying, "I'm gay."
1104
00:53:47,664 --> 00:53:49,416
I think that would be
very helpful.
1105
00:53:51,627 --> 00:53:54,002
I had released
three records,
1106
00:53:54,003 --> 00:53:56,255
and, um, I would do interviews
1107
00:53:56,256 --> 00:53:58,298
and I did, you know, Letterman,
1108
00:53:58,299 --> 00:54:01,802
and I did one interview
where the guy asked me
1109
00:54:01,803 --> 00:54:04,098
personal questions
about the songs,
1110
00:54:04,223 --> 00:54:08,894
and I always gave my answers
in very general terms.
1111
00:54:09,019 --> 00:54:11,186
They were not gender-specific,
ever.
1112
00:54:11,187 --> 00:54:13,522
When the article came out,
he had changed
1113
00:54:13,523 --> 00:54:16,569
every "us," "them," "you,"
to a boy.
1114
00:54:17,403 --> 00:54:20,906
And it made me look like I was,
like, totally lying
1115
00:54:21,032 --> 00:54:23,532
out of my teeth
talking about my boyfriend.
1116
00:54:23,533 --> 00:54:26,579
And, um, I said,
"I just gotta come out."
1117
00:54:26,704 --> 00:54:29,582
I thought I would maybe
come out on Arsenio Hall.
1118
00:54:29,707 --> 00:54:31,959
But before I ever had
that opportunity,
1119
00:54:32,084 --> 00:54:34,209
I really got
politically involved
1120
00:54:34,210 --> 00:54:36,503
with the Clinton
and Gore campaign,
1121
00:54:36,504 --> 00:54:38,632
helping get him elected.
1122
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:41,927
And so I was invited
to the inauguration.
1123
00:54:45,306 --> 00:54:47,056
I was up there
with all my gay friends,
1124
00:54:47,057 --> 00:54:49,435
and I just said,
"Ooh, I'm a lesbian."
1125
00:54:50,061 --> 00:54:51,518
And I'm proud to say right here,
1126
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:54,230
I'm very proud to have been
a lesbian all my life.
1127
00:54:57,318 --> 00:54:59,902
I-I could have thought
of something much more eloquent,
1128
00:54:59,903 --> 00:55:02,237
had I knew
that I was going to come out,
1129
00:55:02,238 --> 00:55:05,074
but, uh, it just, boom,
it just happened like that.
1130
00:55:05,075 --> 00:55:09,578
I came out and people start
to do interviews with me.
1131
00:55:09,579 --> 00:55:12,500
Um, let me just talk
about the album a little bit.
1132
00:55:12,625 --> 00:55:14,041
Uh, Yes I Am.
1133
00:55:14,042 --> 00:55:16,043
Everybody's talked about,
well, "Yes, I am..."
1134
00:55:16,044 --> 00:55:17,378
Does it have any connotation?
1135
00:55:17,379 --> 00:55:19,340
- "Yes, I am what?"
- "Yes, I am what?"
1136
00:55:19,465 --> 00:55:22,716
Each of them
would ask me over and over,
1137
00:55:22,717 --> 00:55:25,304
all year long, day after day,
1138
00:55:25,429 --> 00:55:27,513
I would answer questions
about being gay.
1139
00:55:27,514 --> 00:55:29,850
I guess you came out
at the inaugural ball?
1140
00:55:29,975 --> 00:55:31,433
Yeah, in '92, I-I came out.
1141
00:55:31,434 --> 00:55:34,146
It was like they'd never known
anyone gay.
1142
00:55:34,271 --> 00:55:36,023
And I realized at the time,
"You know, I...
1143
00:55:36,148 --> 00:55:37,983
I want to be real thoughtful
about what I say
1144
00:55:38,109 --> 00:55:40,067
'cause I think this is
the first time
1145
00:55:40,068 --> 00:55:43,612
that they've really ever spoke
to someone who was openly gay."
1146
00:55:43,613 --> 00:55:47,241
The first time I kissed a girl,
it was like...
1147
00:55:47,242 --> 00:55:51,038
I've been out to family
and friends since I was 17.
1148
00:55:51,163 --> 00:55:54,456
I've always been very upfront
about my sexuality.
1149
00:55:54,457 --> 00:55:58,421
I didn't understand, but I knew
that I was on a different path.
1150
00:55:59,338 --> 00:56:03,050
Man, I talked a lot
about being gay for a long time,
1151
00:56:03,175 --> 00:56:05,177
and slowly...
1152
00:56:06,804 --> 00:56:09,930
just saying it
and then being in the media,
1153
00:56:09,931 --> 00:56:12,393
just being on a cover
of a magazine,
1154
00:56:12,977 --> 00:56:14,269
it was big.
1155
00:56:19,984 --> 00:56:22,194
When we made the video
for "I'm the Only One,"
1156
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:24,196
I thought
it would be scandalous
1157
00:56:25,865 --> 00:56:28,949
because it was
the first sexy, sexy video
1158
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:30,536
that had two women.
1159
00:56:30,661 --> 00:56:33,205
They were dancing with each
other, looking at each other,
1160
00:56:33,330 --> 00:56:34,955
and I'm like,
"Oh my God, I can't wait
1161
00:56:34,956 --> 00:56:36,876
till they say
they're not gonna play it."
1162
00:56:37,501 --> 00:56:38,959
Not a word!
1163
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,127
Nothing.
1164
00:56:40,128 --> 00:56:42,423
It was a huge video,
and I was like...
1165
00:56:50,347 --> 00:56:53,849
"Oh, that's gonna be okay.
All right."
1166
00:56:53,850 --> 00:56:58,731
♪ I'm the only one ♪
1167
00:57:01,192 --> 00:57:04,779
The 30 years that I have
traveled since I came out
1168
00:57:05,863 --> 00:57:07,863
have been amazing...
1169
00:57:07,864 --> 00:57:09,367
I'm gay.
1170
00:57:10,034 --> 00:57:13,577
...as I have seen
the world change and grow.
1171
00:57:13,578 --> 00:57:15,581
Same-sex marriage,
legal in this country
1172
00:57:15,706 --> 00:57:17,873
across every state
in this nation.
1173
00:57:17,874 --> 00:57:21,711
The first, uh, transgender woman
to win this award.
1174
00:57:23,005 --> 00:57:24,965
But today, it seems like
1175
00:57:25,091 --> 00:57:26,632
things are going backwards.
1176
00:57:26,633 --> 00:57:28,469
In the middle
of what should be
1177
00:57:28,594 --> 00:57:30,429
a joyous month
celebrating pride,
1178
00:57:30,554 --> 00:57:32,431
the Human Rights Campaign
just issued
1179
00:57:32,556 --> 00:57:34,809
a first-of-its-kind
emergency declaration
1180
00:57:34,934 --> 00:57:37,184
for the LGBTQ+ community.
1181
00:57:37,185 --> 00:57:39,812
Seventy-five laws
in more than a dozen states
1182
00:57:39,813 --> 00:57:43,065
specifically targeting
LGBTQ+ rights.
1183
00:57:43,066 --> 00:57:45,277
We're not doing
the pronoun Olympics in Florida.
1184
00:57:45,403 --> 00:57:46,527
It's not happening here.
1185
00:57:46,528 --> 00:57:48,114
A Tennessee bill
that bans
1186
00:57:48,239 --> 00:57:50,572
gender-affirming care
for anyone under the age of 18
1187
00:57:50,573 --> 00:57:52,574
was signed
by the state's governor today.
1188
00:57:52,575 --> 00:57:55,077
We're in the middle
of one of the biggest rollbacks
1189
00:57:55,078 --> 00:57:56,578
of rights for everybody.
1190
00:57:56,579 --> 00:57:58,416
That is really disturbing.
1191
00:57:58,541 --> 00:58:00,666
Movements to ban specific books
1192
00:58:00,667 --> 00:58:02,918
are increasing
around the country.
1193
00:58:02,919 --> 00:58:05,212
The New York Times
now reporting
1194
00:58:05,213 --> 00:58:09,425
22 states ban abortion
or restrict the procedure.
1195
00:58:09,426 --> 00:58:11,260
- What do we want?
- More rights!
1196
00:58:11,261 --> 00:58:13,595
- When do we want it?
- Now!
1197
00:58:13,596 --> 00:58:16,557
Brennan Center reporting that
nearly 100 new restrictions
1198
00:58:16,558 --> 00:58:19,226
have impacted voting rights
in the last 10 years.
1199
00:58:19,227 --> 00:58:20,646
These aren't single issues.
1200
00:58:20,771 --> 00:58:23,147
These are things
that connect all of us.
1201
00:58:23,148 --> 00:58:25,651
These are
fucked up times,
1202
00:58:25,776 --> 00:58:27,568
which is why I think
it's important for us
1203
00:58:27,569 --> 00:58:28,988
to stick together.
1204
00:58:38,122 --> 00:58:41,040
Bravery is easier when you know
what you're fighting for.
1205
00:58:41,041 --> 00:58:42,708
You want a world
1206
00:58:42,709 --> 00:58:45,838
where we're all treated
equally under the law.
1207
00:58:45,963 --> 00:58:48,464
When I'm surrounded
by my peers,
1208
00:58:48,465 --> 00:58:51,844
it makes me feel like
I'm a part of a movement.
1209
00:58:52,636 --> 00:58:55,681
♪ I will stand for you ♪
1210
00:58:55,806 --> 00:58:58,392
♪ Would you stand for me ♪
1211
00:58:58,517 --> 00:59:01,187
Young women
are like such a vital part
1212
00:59:01,312 --> 00:59:02,519
of changing the world.
1213
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,523
♪ ...deserves to be free ♪
1214
00:59:04,774 --> 00:59:08,275
♪ I would lend
A hand to you ♪
1215
00:59:08,276 --> 00:59:11,447
♪ Would you lend
A hand to me ♪
1216
00:59:12,615 --> 00:59:14,867
I was put on this earth
to do music,
1217
00:59:14,992 --> 00:59:17,326
to inspire and empower
little girls to do things
1218
00:59:17,327 --> 00:59:19,161
that we're not expected to do.
1219
00:59:19,162 --> 00:59:21,622
That fight that we had in us
the summer of 2020,
1220
00:59:21,623 --> 00:59:22,875
keep that same energy.
1221
00:59:24,168 --> 00:59:27,713
Any great things that have come
took a great deal of time,
1222
00:59:29,048 --> 00:59:30,216
and we still persist.
1223
00:59:31,175 --> 00:59:33,552
When women
find their voices
1224
00:59:33,677 --> 00:59:36,222
and offer those voices
to others,
1225
00:59:36,347 --> 00:59:38,806
we realize
that not being silent,
1226
00:59:38,807 --> 00:59:41,894
it's about having
the words to tell stories
1227
00:59:42,019 --> 00:59:44,230
that you didn't even know
you were ready to tell.
1228
00:59:45,022 --> 00:59:48,401
Oh, I don't give a damn
what people think.
1229
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,611
This is what I am.
1230
00:59:50,736 --> 00:59:53,155
And this is the truth. My truth.
1231
00:59:54,365 --> 00:59:56,657
And I want to hear yours.
1232
00:59:56,658 --> 01:00:00,413
♪ Everybody ♪
1233
01:00:01,288 --> 01:00:07,420
♪ Deserves to be free ♪