1 00:00:01,875 --> 00:00:04,375 - [Tony] Tonight on "The Proof is Out There: Alien Edition". 2 00:00:04,375 --> 00:00:07,917 Are government officials keeping secrets about UAPs? 3 00:00:07,917 --> 00:00:09,833 - There's been a disinformation campaign 4 00:00:09,833 --> 00:00:11,333 in place for the last 50 years. 5 00:00:11,333 --> 00:00:12,958 - [Tony] Why did the White House order 6 00:00:12,958 --> 00:00:15,375 a UAP shot down over Lake Huron? 7 00:00:17,917 --> 00:00:19,417 - The military doesn't shoot things out 8 00:00:19,417 --> 00:00:22,208 of the sky that it doesn't perceive as a possible threat. 9 00:00:22,208 --> 00:00:23,958 - [Tony] A strange craft is spotted near 10 00:00:23,958 --> 00:00:25,667 an Air Force base. 11 00:00:25,667 --> 00:00:27,667 - [Man] What the **** is that? 12 00:00:27,667 --> 00:00:28,917 - [Tony] Is the military 13 00:00:28,917 --> 00:00:31,667 secretly transporting alien technology? 14 00:00:31,667 --> 00:00:32,417 - We're seeing something 15 00:00:32,417 --> 00:00:34,500 that we weren't meant to see. 16 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:36,542 - [Tony] And another Tic Tac sighting, 17 00:00:36,542 --> 00:00:39,292 almost 20 years after the Nimitz encounter. 18 00:00:39,292 --> 00:00:43,083 What does the Pentagon know about this UAP hotspot? 19 00:00:43,083 --> 00:00:44,750 - You actually have whistleblowers 20 00:00:44,750 --> 00:00:46,583 from the US Navy coming out and 21 00:00:46,583 --> 00:00:48,583 talking about some of their experiences. 22 00:00:48,583 --> 00:00:51,042 - [Tony] With UAP reports at an all-time high, 23 00:00:51,042 --> 00:00:52,375 we're examining the most 24 00:00:52,375 --> 00:00:54,333 compelling evidence caught on camera. 25 00:00:54,333 --> 00:00:57,708 Tonight's focus, classified UAP cover-ups. 26 00:00:57,708 --> 00:01:00,167 Our experts will analyze the evidence 27 00:01:00,167 --> 00:01:02,208 and then pass a verdict. 28 00:01:02,208 --> 00:01:03,292 - [Man] It's a splash - [Man 2] Splash. 29 00:01:03,292 --> 00:01:05,042 - There were a lot of people 30 00:01:05,042 --> 00:01:07,875 kind of speculating that this was a cover-up. 31 00:01:07,875 --> 00:01:09,958 - "The Proof" starts now. 32 00:01:09,958 --> 00:01:13,083 [upbeat music] 33 00:01:16,583 --> 00:01:20,083 - Good evening and welcome to "The Proof is Out There". 34 00:01:20,083 --> 00:01:22,458 Recently, UAPs have become the subject 35 00:01:22,458 --> 00:01:24,917 of congressional hearings, government studies 36 00:01:24,917 --> 00:01:26,625 and whistleblower claims. 37 00:01:26,625 --> 00:01:30,042 But for decades before this, official answers were scarce. 38 00:01:30,042 --> 00:01:31,750 And that silence fed a growing suspicion 39 00:01:31,750 --> 00:01:35,125 that the government knew more than it was saying. 40 00:01:35,125 --> 00:01:36,292 - The American people largely believe 41 00:01:36,292 --> 00:01:37,542 that the government 42 00:01:37,542 --> 00:01:40,208 has actively covered up the truth about UAPs. 43 00:01:40,208 --> 00:01:42,042 - [Tony] So when did this all start? 44 00:01:42,042 --> 00:01:46,708 Many believe it all goes back to one incident, Roswell. 45 00:01:46,708 --> 00:01:48,500 It's July, 1947. 46 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:51,625 Something crashes in the desert near Roswell, New Mexico. 47 00:01:51,625 --> 00:01:55,542 What was it? Well, it depends on who you ask. 48 00:01:55,542 --> 00:01:57,625 - The initial report was that the military 49 00:01:57,625 --> 00:01:59,708 had found a flying disc. 50 00:01:59,708 --> 00:02:02,750 So it was picked up by newspapers across the country. 51 00:02:02,750 --> 00:02:04,417 Then, pretty much immediately, 52 00:02:04,417 --> 00:02:06,958 they retracted their story and said it 53 00:02:06,958 --> 00:02:08,375 was a weather balloon. 54 00:02:08,375 --> 00:02:12,417 And the change in the story led some people to think 55 00:02:12,417 --> 00:02:15,333 that there was a little something fishy going on. 56 00:02:15,333 --> 00:02:17,208 - [Tony] Many people believe the Roswell incident 57 00:02:17,208 --> 00:02:18,208 was a cover-up. 58 00:02:18,208 --> 00:02:20,375 And as UFO reports increased, 59 00:02:20,375 --> 00:02:22,708 so did the suspicion that the government knew more 60 00:02:22,708 --> 00:02:23,708 than it was letting on. 61 00:02:23,708 --> 00:02:25,667 - The Air Force has been accused from time 62 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:28,625 to time of hiding information about the UFO. 63 00:02:28,625 --> 00:02:30,167 What do you have to say to that kind of evidence? 64 00:02:30,167 --> 00:02:32,792 - Well, these charges are absolutely untrue. 65 00:02:32,792 --> 00:02:35,000 - There's nothing to hide? - There's nothing to hide 66 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:35,792 at all. 67 00:02:37,042 --> 00:02:38,750 - [Tony] Nearly 70 years after Roswell, 68 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:41,958 New York Times journalist Leslie Kean uncovered something 69 00:02:41,958 --> 00:02:46,333 that many UAP enthusiasts had suspected for decades. 70 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:48,000 - The Pentagon had a secret program 71 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,042 that started in 2007. 72 00:02:50,042 --> 00:02:52,292 But sources have told me 73 00:02:52,292 --> 00:02:55,542 that there were programs before that. 74 00:02:55,542 --> 00:02:57,625 - [Tony] The program, known as AATIP, 75 00:02:57,625 --> 00:03:00,583 or Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, 76 00:03:00,583 --> 00:03:03,500 had been secretly investigating UAPs. 77 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:04,667 Along with the article, 78 00:03:04,667 --> 00:03:06,292 two Department of Defense videos 79 00:03:06,292 --> 00:03:08,542 of unidentified objects were released. 80 00:03:08,542 --> 00:03:09,792 - [Leslie] As far as I'm aware, 81 00:03:09,792 --> 00:03:12,125 this is the first time actual government videos 82 00:03:12,125 --> 00:03:14,708 have been released of UFOs. 83 00:03:14,708 --> 00:03:16,375 - [Tony] The article stopped short 84 00:03:16,375 --> 00:03:18,833 of calling these objects extraterrestrial, 85 00:03:18,833 --> 00:03:22,667 but in the years that followed, one man did make that claim. 86 00:03:22,667 --> 00:03:26,250 - I was informed in the course of my official duties 87 00:03:26,250 --> 00:03:29,958 of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval 88 00:03:29,958 --> 00:03:31,958 and reverse engineering program. 89 00:03:31,958 --> 00:03:34,958 - [Tony] David Grusch, former military intelligence officer 90 00:03:34,958 --> 00:03:36,458 turned Pentagon whistleblower, 91 00:03:36,458 --> 00:03:38,625 came forward in June 2023, 92 00:03:38,625 --> 00:03:40,208 claiming the government has been running 93 00:03:40,208 --> 00:03:42,833 a secret UFO crash retrieval program 94 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:45,167 since at least World War II. 95 00:03:45,167 --> 00:03:47,500 According to Grusch, the US is in possession 96 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:50,208 of downed alien craft, alien corpses, 97 00:03:50,208 --> 00:03:52,542 and the US and other nations may even 98 00:03:52,542 --> 00:03:54,208 have some kind of ongoing 99 00:03:54,208 --> 00:03:57,375 diplomatic relationship with aliens. 100 00:03:57,375 --> 00:03:58,875 - Do you believe our government 101 00:03:58,875 --> 00:04:02,292 has made contact with intelligent extraterrestrials? 102 00:04:03,458 --> 00:04:06,500 - Something I can't discuss in public setting. 103 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:08,208 - I believe David's claims and the fact 104 00:04:08,208 --> 00:04:10,083 that we are covering extraterrestrial craft 105 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:11,875 and extraterrestrial bodies 106 00:04:11,875 --> 00:04:14,917 from the general scientific community and the public 107 00:04:14,917 --> 00:04:18,208 at large, and there's been a disinformation campaign 108 00:04:18,208 --> 00:04:20,333 in place for the last 50 years. 109 00:04:20,333 --> 00:04:22,083 - It's very interesting to see someone with such 110 00:04:22,083 --> 00:04:23,667 a credentialed background 111 00:04:23,667 --> 00:04:26,958 as an intelligence officer make these claims in such 112 00:04:26,958 --> 00:04:28,542 an official manner. 113 00:04:28,542 --> 00:04:30,667 If he was lying, he could be held criminally liable. 114 00:04:30,667 --> 00:04:32,208 That would suggest to me that he certainly 115 00:04:32,208 --> 00:04:34,625 is not lying about what he's saying. 116 00:04:34,625 --> 00:04:37,500 - [Tony] Now Pentagon whistleblower David Grusch 117 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:39,333 has claimed the US government is sitting 118 00:04:39,333 --> 00:04:43,208 on much more UFO evidence than the handful of videos 119 00:04:43,208 --> 00:04:45,042 that they have officially released. 120 00:04:45,042 --> 00:04:46,750 Even if that's the case, 121 00:04:46,750 --> 00:04:49,667 what we've seen so far is pretty compelling, 122 00:04:49,667 --> 00:04:50,833 like this video 123 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:53,500 that's left top government investigators stumped. 124 00:04:55,208 --> 00:04:58,458 July 12th, 2022, at an undisclosed location 125 00:04:58,458 --> 00:04:59,958 in the Middle East. 126 00:04:59,958 --> 00:05:02,833 An American MQ-9 drone observes a conversation 127 00:05:02,833 --> 00:05:05,792 between two people on the street below. 128 00:05:05,792 --> 00:05:07,500 As they walk away from a house, 129 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:11,458 a strange object comes into the sensor's field of view. 130 00:05:11,458 --> 00:05:14,500 A shiny metallic ball darts diagonally across 131 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:17,000 the frame, prompting the camera to jolt away 132 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,417 from the people and follow the sphere eastward instead. 133 00:05:20,417 --> 00:05:22,917 The sphere looks to be at least a few feet across, 134 00:05:22,917 --> 00:05:25,125 and it shoots through the sky in what appears to be 135 00:05:25,125 --> 00:05:26,708 a straight line. 136 00:05:26,708 --> 00:05:29,417 The grainy video ends with the sphere in mid-flight 137 00:05:29,417 --> 00:05:31,458 and center frame. 138 00:05:31,458 --> 00:05:34,417 This object took on greater meaning when AARO, 139 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:36,625 the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, 140 00:05:36,625 --> 00:05:39,417 presented it to the public. 141 00:05:39,417 --> 00:05:40,917 - Without sufficient data, 142 00:05:40,917 --> 00:05:43,875 we are unable to reach defendable conclusions that meet 143 00:05:43,875 --> 00:05:47,042 the high scientific standards we set for resolution. 144 00:05:47,042 --> 00:05:49,583 And I will not close a case that I cannot defend 145 00:05:49,583 --> 00:05:51,125 the conclusions of. 146 00:05:51,125 --> 00:05:53,750 This is essentially all of the data we have associated 147 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:54,875 with this event. 148 00:05:54,875 --> 00:05:56,583 It is going to be virtually impossible 149 00:05:56,583 --> 00:05:59,083 to fully identify that. 150 00:05:59,083 --> 00:06:00,292 - [Tony] That's right. 151 00:06:00,292 --> 00:06:01,792 Unlike other UAPs it's looked into, 152 00:06:01,792 --> 00:06:04,542 AARO still considers this video unresolved. 153 00:06:04,542 --> 00:06:05,875 - Kirkpatrick was tight-lipped 154 00:06:05,875 --> 00:06:08,417 about the exact origins of this object, 155 00:06:08,417 --> 00:06:11,833 but he did acknowledge the almost inhuman speeds 156 00:06:11,833 --> 00:06:15,083 at which it travels and the strange design. 157 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:16,708 He also identified 158 00:06:16,708 --> 00:06:20,708 the Middle East region as a hotspot for UAPs. 159 00:06:20,708 --> 00:06:22,625 - [Tony] Considering the ongoing conflicts 160 00:06:22,625 --> 00:06:24,958 in the region, we have to wonder if these UFOs 161 00:06:24,958 --> 00:06:28,542 are related to others that have turned up during wartime. 162 00:06:28,542 --> 00:06:31,000 In 1951, during the Korean War, 163 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,875 a group of American GIs stationed 164 00:06:32,875 --> 00:06:35,542 near Cheorwon encountered a mysterious glowing object 165 00:06:35,542 --> 00:06:37,042 that floated to the center 166 00:06:37,042 --> 00:06:40,292 of artillery explosions but took no damage. 167 00:06:40,292 --> 00:06:43,125 One veteran later claimed the glowing craft pulsated 168 00:06:43,125 --> 00:06:44,625 and changed colors. 169 00:06:44,625 --> 00:06:46,000 In the following days, 170 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,083 the GIs fell sick with what some believe 171 00:06:48,083 --> 00:06:49,833 was radiation poisoning. 172 00:06:49,833 --> 00:06:53,042 Some theorize that this unidentified craft 173 00:06:53,042 --> 00:06:56,500 and the hundreds reported by US troops since 2021 174 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:58,917 are attracted to military targets. 175 00:06:58,917 --> 00:07:00,333 But why? 176 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:01,708 - [Eric] One explanation 177 00:07:01,708 --> 00:07:04,042 is that they are actually alien probes measuring 178 00:07:04,042 --> 00:07:07,208 our defensive or offensive capabilities. 179 00:07:07,208 --> 00:07:08,917 In an optimistic view, 180 00:07:08,917 --> 00:07:12,333 it's possible that they are simply trying to observe 181 00:07:12,333 --> 00:07:17,458 our behavior and figure out why we are so often in conflict. 182 00:07:18,208 --> 00:07:19,708 - [Tony] Whatever the reason, 183 00:07:19,708 --> 00:07:21,167 this sphere sighting over the Middle East appears 184 00:07:21,167 --> 00:07:22,542 to uphold the pattern. 185 00:07:25,458 --> 00:07:28,792 A Pentagon report released in 2022 found evidence 186 00:07:28,792 --> 00:07:33,417 that UFOs can inflict injuries, including radiation burns, 187 00:07:33,417 --> 00:07:36,250 paralysis, and brain damage. 188 00:07:36,250 --> 00:07:38,958 So while Kirkpatrick's office said this object wasn't 189 00:07:38,958 --> 00:07:43,083 an apparent threat, we're inclined to take another look. 190 00:07:46,792 --> 00:07:49,167 Could this be an advanced military drone? 191 00:07:49,167 --> 00:07:51,042 - [Lt. Tim] This doesn't match any type of technology 192 00:07:51,042 --> 00:07:52,083 that we're aware of. 193 00:07:52,083 --> 00:07:54,375 I don't see any obvious signs of propulsion. 194 00:07:54,375 --> 00:07:56,208 I don't see any wings. 195 00:07:56,208 --> 00:07:58,333 So all the necessary components 196 00:07:58,333 --> 00:08:00,500 for a typical aircraft, 197 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:02,458 you'll notice we can see other features 198 00:08:02,458 --> 00:08:06,042 in the terrain, which is below this object really clearly. 199 00:08:06,042 --> 00:08:08,583 So you would be able to definitely see 200 00:08:08,583 --> 00:08:10,083 if there were wings, there were rotors, 201 00:08:10,083 --> 00:08:12,042 any of those features on it. 202 00:08:12,042 --> 00:08:14,125 - [Tony] So it's a spherical object in the sky 203 00:08:14,125 --> 00:08:16,667 without apparent means of propulsion. 204 00:08:16,667 --> 00:08:18,208 Could it just be a balloon? 205 00:08:18,208 --> 00:08:19,917 - [Lt. Tim] It certainly could be a balloon of some sort. 206 00:08:19,917 --> 00:08:21,708 Particularly in the Middle East there 207 00:08:21,708 --> 00:08:25,750 have been very crude, airborne improvised explosive devices. 208 00:08:25,750 --> 00:08:30,625 So you attach some sort of explosive to a balloon 209 00:08:30,625 --> 00:08:32,792 in hopes that it collides with the aircraft. 210 00:08:32,792 --> 00:08:35,458 The key piece of missing evidence here 211 00:08:35,458 --> 00:08:37,375 is we would wanna know the wind direction 212 00:08:37,375 --> 00:08:38,667 and wind speed here. 213 00:08:38,667 --> 00:08:39,958 - [Tony] That info has been redacted. 214 00:08:39,958 --> 00:08:42,500 Otherwise, we could determine whether wind 215 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:44,625 is with or against this object. 216 00:08:44,625 --> 00:08:47,792 And if it's against, then this can be no balloon. 217 00:08:47,792 --> 00:08:49,708 - [Lt. Tim] I think that's what makes this interesting 218 00:08:49,708 --> 00:08:52,417 for me because the Pentagon has listed 219 00:08:52,417 --> 00:08:56,042 this as unidentified, but they have access 220 00:08:56,042 --> 00:08:57,292 to that information. 221 00:08:57,292 --> 00:08:58,542 So they should have been able 222 00:08:58,542 --> 00:09:00,792 to better narrow down it being a balloon. 223 00:09:00,792 --> 00:09:02,125 - [Tony] Then could 224 00:09:02,125 --> 00:09:04,333 this really be some kind of alien probe? 225 00:09:04,333 --> 00:09:06,917 - [Lt. Tim] Though this video is definitely intriguing, 226 00:09:06,917 --> 00:09:11,667 we also don't see any real extreme flight characteristics 227 00:09:11,667 --> 00:09:16,000 that require the existence of aliens or some type 228 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,042 of advanced physics. 229 00:09:18,042 --> 00:09:20,125 - [Tony] That means this UFO isn't displaying 230 00:09:20,125 --> 00:09:22,833 the hallmarks the US military has cataloged 231 00:09:22,833 --> 00:09:26,542 on other UFOs, including instantaneous acceleration, 232 00:09:26,542 --> 00:09:30,625 hypersonic velocities, cloaking and trans-medium travel, 233 00:09:30,625 --> 00:09:33,875 the ability to fly into and out of the water. 234 00:09:33,875 --> 00:09:36,292 Nor does it convince McMillan that UFOs 235 00:09:36,292 --> 00:09:39,667 are particularly interested in human conflict. 236 00:09:39,667 --> 00:09:41,667 - [Lt. Tim] There are more pilots being perceptive 237 00:09:41,667 --> 00:09:43,750 of their surroundings in a war zone. 238 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:46,750 So I think it gives us that idea that perhaps UFOs 239 00:09:46,750 --> 00:09:50,792 are interested in human conflict when, in fact, 240 00:09:50,792 --> 00:09:52,958 what it is is we're paying more attention 241 00:09:52,958 --> 00:09:55,167 to the skies during human conflict. 242 00:09:59,583 --> 00:10:00,625 - [Tony] Our verdict? 243 00:10:00,625 --> 00:10:03,375 We're calling this a possible UFO. 244 00:10:03,375 --> 00:10:06,792 On one hand, it has no wings or obvious propulsion, 245 00:10:06,792 --> 00:10:08,708 which is very UFO-like. 246 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:12,500 There is a chance it's a balloon pushed by a stiff wind, 247 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:15,667 but you think AARO would know that by now. 248 00:10:15,667 --> 00:10:17,250 If we get more information, we'll let you know. 249 00:10:21,042 --> 00:10:22,542 - [Tony] The Roswell incident helped fuel suspicion 250 00:10:22,542 --> 00:10:24,375 that the government was hiding something. 251 00:10:24,375 --> 00:10:25,500 In the years that followed, 252 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:26,875 some UFO researchers claimed 253 00:10:26,875 --> 00:10:28,708 that President Eisenhower secretly 254 00:10:28,708 --> 00:10:31,000 visited Edwards Air Force Base, 255 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,208 possibly to view recovered wreckage, 256 00:10:33,208 --> 00:10:35,167 and later even met with extraterrestrials 257 00:10:35,167 --> 00:10:38,000 in a top-secret meeting at nearby Holloman. 258 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,625 So could the photograph in our next story be evidence 259 00:10:41,625 --> 00:10:45,875 of that alleged alien encounter or merely a coincidence? 260 00:10:47,625 --> 00:10:50,292 It's October 16, 1957. 261 00:10:50,292 --> 00:10:52,000 Ella Louise Fortune, a nurse 262 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,792 at the Mescalero Indian Reservation in New Mexico, 263 00:10:54,792 --> 00:10:56,917 is driving north on Highway 54 264 00:10:56,917 --> 00:10:59,042 when she sees something hovering in the sky 265 00:10:59,042 --> 00:11:02,125 over Holloman Air Force Base in Alamogordo. 266 00:11:02,125 --> 00:11:04,042 She happens to have her camera with her, 267 00:11:04,042 --> 00:11:07,542 so she pulls the car over and photographs this. 268 00:11:07,542 --> 00:11:10,000 A glowing, white, elongated, 269 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,042 oval-shaped object is floating above the desert landscape. 270 00:11:14,042 --> 00:11:17,250 You can see why this photo caused such a stir. 271 00:11:17,250 --> 00:11:20,458 Just look at how bright it is, even in broad daylight. 272 00:11:20,458 --> 00:11:24,708 Check out the sharpness of the edges here, there, 273 00:11:24,708 --> 00:11:28,000 and then you have this soft wisp. 274 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,250 Is that exhaust? How would you fake that if you wanted to? 275 00:11:32,250 --> 00:11:33,667 - This photo is a classic 276 00:11:33,667 --> 00:11:35,875 in the UFO community that most people consider 277 00:11:35,875 --> 00:11:39,375 a genuine photograph that was not hoaxed. 278 00:11:39,375 --> 00:11:41,292 - [Tony] Not only has the photo earned a place 279 00:11:41,292 --> 00:11:44,208 in UFO history, it ties into one of the most astonishing 280 00:11:44,208 --> 00:11:47,000 and durable stories of the UFO canon, 281 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,708 allegations that Holloman Air Base was the site 282 00:11:49,708 --> 00:11:52,625 of an interstellar summit where aliens forged 283 00:11:52,625 --> 00:11:55,000 an alliance with the US government. 284 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,417 - [MJ] There's a story that circulates 285 00:11:56,417 --> 00:11:59,958 within UFO circles that President Dwight D. Eisenhower 286 00:11:59,958 --> 00:12:02,208 secretly met with aliens, 287 00:12:02,208 --> 00:12:04,542 and this alien gets shuffled into a back room 288 00:12:04,542 --> 00:12:07,458 and the president is flown in to specifically meet 289 00:12:07,458 --> 00:12:08,875 with this creature. 290 00:12:08,875 --> 00:12:10,917 So we have a lot of strange stories out there 291 00:12:10,917 --> 00:12:14,333 of secret meetings between presidents and aliens 292 00:12:14,333 --> 00:12:15,458 from other planets. 293 00:12:17,667 --> 00:12:19,458 - [Tony] Now, according to some, 294 00:12:19,458 --> 00:12:21,000 during these secret meetings, 295 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,708 President Eisenhower brokered a deal to allow the aliens 296 00:12:24,708 --> 00:12:26,500 to abduct humans in exchange 297 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:30,333 for extraterrestrial black technology that would lead 298 00:12:30,333 --> 00:12:33,208 to developments like the B-2 stealth bomber. 299 00:12:33,208 --> 00:12:35,042 Is the photo we have here evidence 300 00:12:35,042 --> 00:12:37,917 of that advanced alien tech? 301 00:12:37,917 --> 00:12:39,708 We asked our experts to decide. 302 00:12:43,542 --> 00:12:45,250 Is it possible that white color 303 00:12:45,250 --> 00:12:48,000 and shape match something you'd expect to see near 304 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,375 an Air Force base, namely a parachute? 305 00:12:50,375 --> 00:12:52,917 - [Lt. Tim] Nothing about it is consistent with a parachute. 306 00:12:52,917 --> 00:12:55,125 In particular, you don't see a payload. 307 00:12:55,125 --> 00:12:57,125 The shape of it is inconsistent 308 00:12:57,125 --> 00:12:59,208 with what you would expect for a parachute if it 309 00:12:59,208 --> 00:13:01,542 is being weighted down by a payload. 310 00:13:01,542 --> 00:13:03,833 - [Tony] Some have speculated it could be a balloon 311 00:13:03,833 --> 00:13:06,042 or blimp, but McMillan doesn't see it. 312 00:13:06,042 --> 00:13:08,375 - [Lt. Tim] It doesn't resemble any obvious shape 313 00:13:08,375 --> 00:13:09,833 of a balloon. 314 00:13:09,958 --> 00:13:12,625 Also, it definitely appears to be extremely bright, 315 00:13:12,625 --> 00:13:15,417 and so it would have to have some type of light source. 316 00:13:15,417 --> 00:13:18,042 - [Tony] This thing is white and in the sky. 317 00:13:18,042 --> 00:13:19,250 Could it just be a cloud? 318 00:13:19,250 --> 00:13:21,250 - It takes very strong winds to create 319 00:13:21,250 --> 00:13:24,375 that kind of like sharpness to the edges and creating 320 00:13:24,375 --> 00:13:26,333 the saucer-like look to it 321 00:13:26,333 --> 00:13:29,000 because it doesn't even match what you would expect 322 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 with the upper band cirrus clouds. 323 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,917 So I don't see this as a cloud whatsoever. 324 00:13:33,917 --> 00:13:34,875 - [Tony] Instead, Hoffman believes 325 00:13:34,875 --> 00:13:36,875 with some calculations, 326 00:13:36,875 --> 00:13:38,875 he can narrow down the possibilities. 327 00:13:38,875 --> 00:13:41,042 - [Rich] It was roughly around 10,000 feet, 328 00:13:41,042 --> 00:13:44,833 and roughly they assumed it was 15 miles away. 329 00:13:44,833 --> 00:13:46,208 You do trigonometry. 330 00:13:46,208 --> 00:13:48,292 You're able to determine that it's roughly just 331 00:13:48,292 --> 00:13:50,333 over a mile long. 332 00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:52,208 - [Tony] If Hoffman's numbers are correct, 333 00:13:52,208 --> 00:13:55,458 he says we can eliminate several other possibilities. 334 00:13:55,458 --> 00:13:57,083 - [Rich] I would never go to the point of saying 335 00:13:57,083 --> 00:13:58,042 that this is a plane. 336 00:13:58,042 --> 00:13:59,250 The size makes no sense. 337 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:02,208 It's a mile wide, and it's not a UFO. 338 00:14:02,208 --> 00:14:05,250 No object, especially one a mile long, 339 00:14:05,250 --> 00:14:08,708 would not have gone undetected by the people 340 00:14:08,708 --> 00:14:12,458 that are positioned there monitoring that part of the sky. 341 00:14:13,625 --> 00:14:14,917 - [Tony] So what could it be? 342 00:14:14,917 --> 00:14:17,917 Hoffman says location is the key. 343 00:14:17,917 --> 00:14:19,000 - [Rich] If there's one important thing 344 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,375 that you need to know. 345 00:14:20,375 --> 00:14:22,000 Holloman Air Force Base was to the position 346 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,333 of the witness's left. 347 00:14:24,333 --> 00:14:26,250 The vast majority of this area you're looking at 348 00:14:26,250 --> 00:14:28,042 is White Sands Missile Range. 349 00:14:28,042 --> 00:14:30,250 The fact that this is conveniently positioned right 350 00:14:30,250 --> 00:14:33,208 at 10,000 feet would probably make it very likely 351 00:14:33,208 --> 00:14:36,083 that it's a missile test of some sort. 352 00:14:36,083 --> 00:14:37,333 - [Tony] McMillan agrees and believes 353 00:14:37,333 --> 00:14:40,167 the photo reveals an important clue. 354 00:14:40,167 --> 00:14:42,125 - [Lt. Tim] There appears to be a contrail behind 355 00:14:42,125 --> 00:14:44,083 the object which suggests that the object is moving 356 00:14:44,083 --> 00:14:48,542 and leaving a vapor trail that would be consistent 357 00:14:48,542 --> 00:14:50,167 with solid fuel burning. 358 00:14:50,167 --> 00:14:52,375 - [Tony] A large vapor trail could also explain 359 00:14:52,375 --> 00:14:54,875 why this object looks a mile long when in fact 360 00:14:54,875 --> 00:14:56,125 it's much shorter. 361 00:14:56,125 --> 00:14:57,417 - [Lt. Tim] The US at the time. 362 00:14:57,417 --> 00:15:00,542 was engaged in significant rocket testing 363 00:15:00,542 --> 00:15:03,333 and especially were in the height of the space race 364 00:15:03,333 --> 00:15:06,083 between the United States and the Soviet Union. 365 00:15:06,083 --> 00:15:07,542 - [Rich] There were a whole variety of missiles 366 00:15:07,542 --> 00:15:09,042 that were being tested. 367 00:15:09,042 --> 00:15:10,958 It could have been fired from an aircraft or something 368 00:15:10,958 --> 00:15:12,458 that would have created a kind of plume 369 00:15:12,458 --> 00:15:14,042 of smoke like this. 370 00:15:14,042 --> 00:15:15,917 - [Tony] But if this mile long object is really just 371 00:15:15,917 --> 00:15:18,583 a trail of missile exhaust, we continue 372 00:15:18,583 --> 00:15:22,375 to ask ourselves, why do the edges look so distinct? 373 00:15:22,375 --> 00:15:24,958 Not to mention, a speeding missile doesn't match 374 00:15:24,958 --> 00:15:26,500 the eyewitness story. 375 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:28,417 This thing had to hang in the air long enough for Ella 376 00:15:28,417 --> 00:15:31,542 to see it, park her car, get out, and take a photo. 377 00:15:31,542 --> 00:15:34,458 We can't help but feel we're still missing a piece 378 00:15:34,458 --> 00:15:35,208 of this puzzle. 379 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,375 Our verdict? Still an unidentified object. 380 00:15:43,375 --> 00:15:45,500 Our experts bring up great points, 381 00:15:45,500 --> 00:15:48,583 but even if the contrail points to a chemical fuel burn 382 00:15:48,583 --> 00:15:51,708 and the missile range was a short 30 miles away, 383 00:15:51,708 --> 00:15:55,167 the image itself just doesn't give us enough info 384 00:15:55,167 --> 00:15:58,542 to definitively call it a missile or anything else. 385 00:15:58,542 --> 00:16:01,583 That keeps it a UFO in our book, for now. 386 00:16:05,625 --> 00:16:05,917 - [Tony] There's no public evidence to support 387 00:16:07,208 --> 00:16:08,833 the claim that President Eisenhower ever saw Roswell 388 00:16:08,833 --> 00:16:11,125 wreckage in 1954. 389 00:16:11,125 --> 00:16:13,750 But whistleblower David Grusch told Congress 390 00:16:13,750 --> 00:16:17,583 that the government does have UAPs in its possession. 391 00:16:17,583 --> 00:16:19,250 And he says he knows where. 392 00:16:19,250 --> 00:16:21,042 - Mr. Grusch, finally, do you believe that our 393 00:16:21,042 --> 00:16:22,958 government is in possession of UAPs? 394 00:16:22,958 --> 00:16:24,250 - Absolutely, based on interviewing 395 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:26,958 over 40 witnesses over four years. 396 00:16:26,958 --> 00:16:29,125 - And where? - I know the exact locations 397 00:16:29,125 --> 00:16:31,000 and those locations were provided 398 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,083 to the Inspector General and some 399 00:16:33,083 --> 00:16:34,750 of which to the Intelligence Committees. 400 00:16:34,750 --> 00:16:35,875 - [Tony] So where are they? 401 00:16:35,875 --> 00:16:38,958 Our next video may provide a clue. 402 00:16:39,708 --> 00:16:41,583 September 2021. 403 00:16:41,583 --> 00:16:43,083 An anonymous source 404 00:16:43,083 --> 00:16:45,208 at a construction site near Edwards Air Force Base 405 00:16:45,208 --> 00:16:48,458 in California spots an unusual structure being towed 406 00:16:48,458 --> 00:16:49,375 by a large truck. 407 00:16:49,375 --> 00:16:50,542 - What the... 408 00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:51,958 - [Tony] The video shows 409 00:16:51,958 --> 00:16:54,042 what appears to be a UFO-like craft 410 00:16:54,042 --> 00:16:56,583 being transported on a flatbed trailer. 411 00:16:56,583 --> 00:16:58,125 Let's take a closer look. 412 00:16:58,958 --> 00:17:00,250 At first glance, the shape 413 00:17:00,250 --> 00:17:02,417 of this mysterious object seems reminiscent 414 00:17:02,417 --> 00:17:05,708 of the curved contours of a B-2 stealth bomber. 415 00:17:05,708 --> 00:17:07,333 But upon closer examination, 416 00:17:07,333 --> 00:17:09,375 it doesn't seem capable of flight. 417 00:17:09,375 --> 00:17:11,917 People tracked down the location of the video soon 418 00:17:11,917 --> 00:17:13,292 after it was posted online. 419 00:17:13,292 --> 00:17:15,417 - Internet sleuths were able to determine 420 00:17:15,417 --> 00:17:17,375 that it was taken at Skunk Works. 421 00:17:17,375 --> 00:17:19,125 Skunk Works is where Lockheed Martin 422 00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:22,208 was designing spy planes back in the '50s and '60s. 423 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:24,125 So it's possible that we're seeing something 424 00:17:24,125 --> 00:17:26,375 that we weren't meant to see. 425 00:17:26,375 --> 00:17:29,708 - [Tony] In 2021, former Nevada Senator Harry Reid, 426 00:17:29,708 --> 00:17:32,042 whose state is home to Area 51, 427 00:17:32,042 --> 00:17:33,958 made an even more shocking claim 428 00:17:33,958 --> 00:17:35,542 that the defense contractors 429 00:17:35,542 --> 00:17:38,708 at Lockheed Martin may also be in possession of fragments 430 00:17:38,708 --> 00:17:40,167 of a crashed UFO. 431 00:17:40,167 --> 00:17:42,167 - [Amy] A lot of conspiracy theorists will say 432 00:17:42,167 --> 00:17:43,583 that aliens are drawn 433 00:17:43,583 --> 00:17:46,333 to the desert out in California or Nevada. 434 00:17:46,333 --> 00:17:50,167 So this is an area where they will land or will crash. 435 00:17:50,167 --> 00:17:52,125 And that opens the door for engineers 436 00:17:52,125 --> 00:17:54,458 to then collect them and then reverse engineer 437 00:17:54,458 --> 00:17:57,375 and understand what technology aliens are dealing with. 438 00:17:57,375 --> 00:17:58,708 - [Tony] Many believe that one 439 00:17:58,708 --> 00:18:00,375 of these alien technologies could have led 440 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:04,542 to the development of what's known on Earth as meta-metals. 441 00:18:04,542 --> 00:18:07,083 - [Amy] There's a type of material called meta-metals. 442 00:18:07,083 --> 00:18:09,833 It absorbs light and electromagnetic radiation 443 00:18:09,833 --> 00:18:11,375 and any kind of radio waves, 444 00:18:11,375 --> 00:18:13,208 which would theoretically make it almost 445 00:18:13,208 --> 00:18:14,667 an invisible metal. 446 00:18:14,667 --> 00:18:18,500 Because it would be unable to be seen on radar. 447 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:21,333 It could even be slightly invisible to the naked eye 448 00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,500 if it's refracting light in a certain way. 449 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:26,375 - [Tony] We know that a former Skunk Works director 450 00:18:26,375 --> 00:18:28,708 has teamed up with a private research group to study 451 00:18:28,708 --> 00:18:30,208 an exotic metal object 452 00:18:30,208 --> 00:18:32,958 that was recently purchased for $35,000. 453 00:18:32,958 --> 00:18:34,542 The person who sold 454 00:18:34,542 --> 00:18:37,333 the possible meta-material claims it came off of a UFO 455 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:38,625 that crashed in New Mexico's 456 00:18:38,625 --> 00:18:41,625 White Sands Proving Grounds in 1947. 457 00:18:41,625 --> 00:18:45,167 So, could this footage show something similar? 458 00:18:47,375 --> 00:18:48,917 After this video is posted, 459 00:18:48,917 --> 00:18:52,292 a reporter asked the Lockheed Martin executive in charge 460 00:18:52,292 --> 00:18:55,042 of Skunk Works if he was able to tell us anything 461 00:18:55,042 --> 00:18:56,208 about what we saw. 462 00:18:56,208 --> 00:18:59,167 He simply replied, "I can't." 463 00:18:59,167 --> 00:19:00,417 So the truth may be out there, 464 00:19:00,417 --> 00:19:03,208 but Lockheed Martin isn't talking. 465 00:19:03,208 --> 00:19:05,333 Let's see if our experts can crack the case. 466 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,542 - [Lt. Tim] At first glance, it definitely looks like a UFO. 467 00:19:12,542 --> 00:19:15,375 If we were gonna draw an alien spacecraft, 468 00:19:15,375 --> 00:19:17,458 we might draw something like this. 469 00:19:17,458 --> 00:19:19,208 - [Tony] Still, McMillan has his doubts 470 00:19:19,208 --> 00:19:21,292 that we could be looking at a recovered UFO. 471 00:19:21,292 --> 00:19:22,667 - [Lt. Tim] One of the first things that says 472 00:19:22,667 --> 00:19:24,917 that this is probably not a UFO is if they're going 473 00:19:24,917 --> 00:19:26,292 to move it in the daytime, 474 00:19:26,292 --> 00:19:27,375 they're gonna do it in a manner where it 475 00:19:27,375 --> 00:19:29,750 is completely sequestered. 476 00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:31,208 - [Tony] So it seems strange they would transport 477 00:19:31,208 --> 00:19:33,542 a UFO out in the open. 478 00:19:33,542 --> 00:19:35,375 But it sure doesn't look aerodynamic 479 00:19:35,375 --> 00:19:38,375 or like any sort of aircraft we fly here on Earth. 480 00:19:38,375 --> 00:19:40,333 And since we can't test for metametals, 481 00:19:40,333 --> 00:19:42,375 it's hard to confirm its material. 482 00:19:42,375 --> 00:19:45,000 So then what are we looking at here? 483 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,417 Mick West spots a detail that could shed some more light. 484 00:19:48,417 --> 00:19:49,708 - [Nick] This structure in the background, 485 00:19:49,708 --> 00:19:50,875 it looks like some 486 00:19:50,875 --> 00:19:53,750 kind of perhaps massive radar installation. 487 00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:54,708 I think it's a big clue 488 00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:57,000 as to what this facility actually is. 489 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,708 - [Tony] On a hunch, we geo-located the structure. 490 00:19:59,708 --> 00:20:01,875 Using an open source intelligence comparison 491 00:20:01,875 --> 00:20:03,625 of the scaffolding, buildings, and foliage, 492 00:20:03,625 --> 00:20:06,375 it is possible to pinpoint the exact spot 493 00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:08,333 where this incident took place. 494 00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:11,958 The Helendale Radar Cross Section Facility. 495 00:20:11,958 --> 00:20:13,792 - The testing facility 496 00:20:13,792 --> 00:20:16,667 is where the military tests 497 00:20:16,667 --> 00:20:19,208 what their planes look like on radar. 498 00:20:19,208 --> 00:20:21,167 Sometimes they just build parts of the plane 499 00:20:21,167 --> 00:20:22,958 and they'll look at it with radars 500 00:20:22,958 --> 00:20:24,333 from different directions. 501 00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:26,917 And they want to see how much this one part 502 00:20:26,917 --> 00:20:28,958 of the plane actually contributes 503 00:20:28,958 --> 00:20:30,375 to the radar cross-section. 504 00:20:30,375 --> 00:20:31,708 - [Tony] Based on its shape, 505 00:20:31,708 --> 00:20:33,917 West speculates that this is the fuselage 506 00:20:33,917 --> 00:20:37,000 of a novel future stealth fighter with a curved rather 507 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,833 than an angular profile, 508 00:20:38,833 --> 00:20:41,458 and without a tail section or stabilizers. 509 00:20:45,833 --> 00:20:47,125 Our verdict? 510 00:20:47,125 --> 00:20:49,250 This model certainly pinged our radar, 511 00:20:49,250 --> 00:20:51,375 but in the end it was simply a prop 512 00:20:51,375 --> 00:20:53,583 for radar testing being done in the area. 513 00:20:53,583 --> 00:20:56,250 Military leaks happen all the time though, 514 00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:58,333 so keep your eyes to the sky 515 00:20:58,333 --> 00:21:01,625 and you might just see something you weren't supposed to. 516 00:21:05,458 --> 00:21:09,708 Navy aviators from the USS Nimitz encountered this UFO 517 00:21:09,708 --> 00:21:13,292 about 100 miles off the coast of California. 518 00:21:13,292 --> 00:21:15,542 That video was shot from the left wing camera 519 00:21:15,542 --> 00:21:18,125 of an F/A-18 Super Hornet, 520 00:21:18,125 --> 00:21:20,958 and the pilots who saw it up close say it looked like 521 00:21:20,958 --> 00:21:22,500 a giant Tic Tac. 522 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:24,542 It produced years of speculation, 523 00:21:24,542 --> 00:21:26,208 even government hearings. 524 00:21:26,208 --> 00:21:27,583 - I would like to say that the Tic Tac object 525 00:21:27,583 --> 00:21:30,250 we engaged in 2004 was far superior to anything 526 00:21:30,250 --> 00:21:32,417 that we had on time, have today, 527 00:21:32,417 --> 00:21:34,458 or are looking to develop in the next 10 years. 528 00:21:34,458 --> 00:21:36,458 - [Tony] Fravor says there was no follow-up 529 00:21:36,458 --> 00:21:39,417 after the encounter, so why the silence? 530 00:21:39,417 --> 00:21:40,833 - Excessive secrecy has led 531 00:21:40,833 --> 00:21:43,500 to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, 532 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:46,417 military personnel, and the public, 533 00:21:46,417 --> 00:21:50,333 all to hide the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos. 534 00:21:50,333 --> 00:21:53,958 - [Tony] And now, another Tic Tac video has emerged. 535 00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:59,667 It is just past 7 PM on February 15, 2023, 536 00:21:59,667 --> 00:22:04,167 and the Navy's USS Jackson combat ship is just off 537 00:22:04,167 --> 00:22:06,625 the coast of San Diego, California, 538 00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:10,542 not far from the site of the 2004 Tic Tac encounter 539 00:22:10,542 --> 00:22:15,542 in a special-use airspace area known as W-291. 540 00:22:16,583 --> 00:22:19,083 - An operations specialist on board 541 00:22:19,083 --> 00:22:21,625 the ship, Alexandro Wiggins, 542 00:22:21,625 --> 00:22:24,875 observed something unusual on radar, 543 00:22:24,875 --> 00:22:27,458 and he took to the deck to make an observation 544 00:22:27,458 --> 00:22:30,208 with the naked eye, 545 00:22:30,208 --> 00:22:34,667 and he witnessed some kind of structure 546 00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:39,292 or light emanating up from the waterline. 547 00:22:39,292 --> 00:22:43,833 - Watching this light emerge from the water 548 00:22:43,833 --> 00:22:46,958 at a distance and then go into the air 549 00:22:46,958 --> 00:22:49,958 with a solid light, no blinking or anything, 550 00:22:51,375 --> 00:22:53,625 I've never witnessed that ever in my life. 551 00:22:53,625 --> 00:22:56,500 - [Mitch] Wiggins went back inside the control room 552 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,375 to check his radar screen, 553 00:22:59,375 --> 00:23:03,500 where he and other sailors witnessed four objects, 554 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:06,167 at which point they began recording 555 00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:08,250 with the SAFIRE system. 556 00:23:08,250 --> 00:23:10,708 - [Tony] The SAFIRE, an infrared sensor 557 00:23:10,708 --> 00:23:14,500 that detects heat, focuses on two of the objects flying 558 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:17,958 from right to left in perfect synchronicity. 559 00:23:17,958 --> 00:23:21,583 The monitor punches in on one of the objects, 560 00:23:21,583 --> 00:23:24,500 revealing the familiar Tic Tac shape, 561 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:26,750 apparently hovering over the ocean. 562 00:23:27,583 --> 00:23:29,250 Moments after the video ends, 563 00:23:29,250 --> 00:23:32,500 Senior Chief Wiggins says the watch team zooms out 564 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:34,542 on the monitor just in time 565 00:23:34,542 --> 00:23:38,000 to see all four objects shoot off simultaneously. 566 00:23:39,167 --> 00:23:42,667 Though odd, the objects show no hostile intent, 567 00:23:42,667 --> 00:23:46,917 so it goes unreported until April 2025, 568 00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:51,250 when investigative journalist Jeremy Corbell gets a hold 569 00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:55,792 of the video and releases it to massive media coverage. 570 00:23:55,792 --> 00:23:58,875 - [Mitch] The video just caused astonishment 571 00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:02,125 because these things have been a repeat presence 572 00:24:02,125 --> 00:24:06,833 in those waters, including the original Tic Tac video. 573 00:24:06,833 --> 00:24:11,792 And Jeremy Corbell also released the USS Omaha video, 574 00:24:13,083 --> 00:24:17,500 which captured one of these objects splashing down. 575 00:24:18,333 --> 00:24:19,083 - What was that? - It splashed. 576 00:24:20,333 --> 00:24:22,167 - [Tony] In fact, original reporting 577 00:24:22,167 --> 00:24:23,583 on the History Channel series, 578 00:24:23,583 --> 00:24:27,042 "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation", 579 00:24:27,042 --> 00:24:32,042 revealed that the 2004 Tic Tac was even seen on sonar. 580 00:24:32,833 --> 00:24:33,875 - Sonar said they got a hit. 581 00:24:33,875 --> 00:24:36,042 According to one of the sonar guys, 582 00:24:36,042 --> 00:24:38,583 they were going 70-plus knots under the water. 583 00:24:39,542 --> 00:24:40,875 - We've known that the Navy 584 00:24:40,875 --> 00:24:43,500 has been dealing with these USOs now for decades. 585 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:45,417 In fact, there's some reporting that's come out 586 00:24:45,417 --> 00:24:47,542 where you actually have whistleblowers 587 00:24:47,542 --> 00:24:50,042 from the US Navy coming out and talking about some 588 00:24:50,042 --> 00:24:53,500 of their experiences, most notably the USS Hampton 589 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:57,667 that was in the late 1990s during an operation 590 00:24:57,667 --> 00:25:01,708 had detected something moving very, very fast. 591 00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:05,042 And some of the individuals actually on that submarine 592 00:25:05,042 --> 00:25:08,542 who detected this estimated the speed was faster 593 00:25:08,542 --> 00:25:10,833 than the speed of sound. 594 00:25:10,833 --> 00:25:12,708 - [Tony] The location of that incident 595 00:25:12,708 --> 00:25:14,417 has not been disclosed. 596 00:25:14,417 --> 00:25:17,042 But are these repeated incidents, all 597 00:25:17,042 --> 00:25:18,167 in the same area, 598 00:25:18,167 --> 00:25:20,000 evidence of something greater than just 599 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,917 a few flying objects? 600 00:25:21,917 --> 00:25:23,208 - [Mitch] These are all just theories, 601 00:25:23,208 --> 00:25:26,792 but one that makes the rounds among naval personnel 602 00:25:26,792 --> 00:25:33,292 is the potential existence of an underwater base 603 00:25:33,292 --> 00:25:36,000 from which these objects emerge and return to. 604 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,167 It's, of course, just a speculative hypothesis, 605 00:25:39,167 --> 00:25:43,125 but these objects have been variously recorded 606 00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:48,042 or witnessed emerging from the waters off the coast 607 00:25:48,042 --> 00:25:49,708 of San Diego. 608 00:25:49,708 --> 00:25:52,917 The collective details are just extraordinary. 609 00:25:54,750 --> 00:25:57,375 - [Tony] This new Tic Tac video hasn't just wowed 610 00:25:57,375 --> 00:25:59,000 the American public. 611 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,083 It was even shared with Navy aviator David Fravor, 612 00:26:02,083 --> 00:26:05,708 who encountered the first Tic Tac back in 2004. 613 00:26:05,708 --> 00:26:08,667 He said he was stunned by the similarities. 614 00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:10,917 Let's see if our experts have the same reaction. 615 00:26:15,375 --> 00:26:17,875 This was February 2023, 616 00:26:17,875 --> 00:26:22,000 just days after a Chinese spy balloon crossed America, 617 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,750 setting the nation on edge and ultimately leading 618 00:26:24,750 --> 00:26:27,708 to a shoot down just off the East Coast. 619 00:26:27,708 --> 00:26:31,042 Could these be intelligence gathering inflatables? 620 00:26:31,042 --> 00:26:32,833 - [Rich] I took a look at the weather on that day, 621 00:26:32,833 --> 00:26:37,708 and you had winds from the west at about 6 miles an hour. 622 00:26:37,708 --> 00:26:39,292 So if they were balloons, 623 00:26:39,292 --> 00:26:42,208 you would see the balloons going with the wind 624 00:26:42,208 --> 00:26:45,875 in one direction, and it doesn't do that. 625 00:26:45,875 --> 00:26:47,625 - [Tony] That still doesn't rule out 626 00:26:47,625 --> 00:26:49,250 a foreign incursion, though. 627 00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:52,250 We know drones have been an issue over military bases 628 00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:55,875 and US soil, and the suspicion is that they are the work 629 00:26:55,875 --> 00:26:57,875 of adversarial nations. 630 00:26:57,875 --> 00:27:02,542 Is this video proof they might be toying with our Navy, too? 631 00:27:02,542 --> 00:27:03,792 - [Rich] I will point out 632 00:27:03,792 --> 00:27:06,292 that the motions you see could be done by drones, 633 00:27:06,292 --> 00:27:09,083 including the synchronicity, but you also 634 00:27:09,083 --> 00:27:11,875 have a situation where these people described it 635 00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:15,167 as being that they instantaneously shot off. 636 00:27:15,167 --> 00:27:17,250 And they were talking about a really, 637 00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:19,708 really incredibly fast speed. 638 00:27:19,708 --> 00:27:23,250 And so that doesn't sound like a drone. 639 00:27:23,250 --> 00:27:26,000 - [Tony] Since this is special use airspace, 640 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,833 could these be special aircraft, 641 00:27:28,833 --> 00:27:31,417 perhaps part of a secret military test? 642 00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:32,917 - Could they be doing a test 643 00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:34,208 that the Jackson wasn't aware of? 644 00:27:34,208 --> 00:27:35,167 Yeah, maybe. 645 00:27:35,167 --> 00:27:39,750 We have signal transmedium type things. 646 00:27:40,958 --> 00:27:43,250 Submarine-launched ballistic missiles do that. 647 00:27:44,375 --> 00:27:46,375 But if it was a missile, it would be moving fast. 648 00:27:46,375 --> 00:27:49,417 And then the size of that object would get smaller 649 00:27:49,417 --> 00:27:50,625 and smaller and smaller 650 00:27:50,625 --> 00:27:53,208 and smaller and smaller until it was gone. 651 00:27:53,208 --> 00:27:55,417 Right? That would have happened very quickly. 652 00:27:55,417 --> 00:27:59,375 And in this case, it didn't go away. 653 00:27:59,375 --> 00:28:01,667 - [Tony] With those possibilities eliminated, 654 00:28:01,667 --> 00:28:05,042 the question becomes, were these UFOs? 655 00:28:05,042 --> 00:28:06,667 - [Rich] Well, I believe that they saw the Tic Tac. 656 00:28:06,667 --> 00:28:09,375 Because you had a very clear observation 657 00:28:09,375 --> 00:28:13,042 by a witness visibly, that it was being picked up 658 00:28:13,042 --> 00:28:15,167 on radar, it was also being picked up 659 00:28:15,167 --> 00:28:18,000 in this thermal imaging system. 660 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,708 All those things combined put it into a very strong case 661 00:28:22,708 --> 00:28:24,667 of being an unknown. 662 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:32,458 - [Tony] Our verdict? Genuine UFO's. 663 00:28:32,458 --> 00:28:33,958 Remember, even though 664 00:28:33,958 --> 00:28:36,792 the video mostly focused on one Tic Tac, 665 00:28:36,792 --> 00:28:38,958 all four of these things were seen shooting off almost 666 00:28:38,958 --> 00:28:41,958 instantaneously, making them 667 00:28:41,958 --> 00:28:44,167 all unidentified flying objects. 668 00:28:44,167 --> 00:28:46,792 The release of these Tic Tac videos could be 669 00:28:46,792 --> 00:28:48,375 having an impact. 670 00:28:48,375 --> 00:28:51,542 Recently, the US National Archives opened the floodgates 671 00:28:51,542 --> 00:28:54,833 on decades' worth of UFO documentation. 672 00:28:58,667 --> 00:28:59,708 - [Tony] We've seen the military track strange objects 673 00:28:59,708 --> 00:29:01,750 on video and then let them go. 674 00:29:01,750 --> 00:29:03,417 [pilots shouting] 675 00:29:03,417 --> 00:29:04,708 But over the Great Lakes, 676 00:29:04,708 --> 00:29:07,708 something triggered an immediate response. 677 00:29:07,708 --> 00:29:08,708 Why? 678 00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:11,917 We don't have any photos or video, 679 00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:15,000 but a recorded verbal description of it helped lead 680 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,667 the US president to order it shot out of the sky. 681 00:29:18,667 --> 00:29:20,167 Have a listen. 682 00:29:20,167 --> 00:29:23,375 It's February 12, 2023, above Lake Huron, 683 00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:25,042 near the Canadian border. 684 00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:27,792 The US military sends two F-16 fighter jets to investigate 685 00:29:27,792 --> 00:29:31,375 a TOI, or Track of Interest. 686 00:29:31,375 --> 00:29:34,167 That's pilot speak for an airborne object that poses 687 00:29:34,167 --> 00:29:36,250 a potential threat to national security. 688 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:39,042 We obtained recordings of the cockpit conversations 689 00:29:39,042 --> 00:29:40,542 that took place during this incident. 690 00:29:40,542 --> 00:29:43,542 As the pilots make their way up to 20,000 feet, 691 00:29:43,542 --> 00:29:45,125 they discuss the mission. 692 00:29:50,625 --> 00:29:51,792 - [Tony] But once they arrive, 693 00:29:51,792 --> 00:29:53,417 what they find is hard to describe. 694 00:30:08,417 --> 00:30:09,708 - [Tony] Whatever it is, 695 00:30:09,708 --> 00:30:11,125 after meeting with military experts, 696 00:30:11,125 --> 00:30:14,208 President Biden orders the craft shot down. 697 00:30:14,208 --> 00:30:17,250 Journalist MJ Banias recalls following the event 698 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:18,125 as it unfolded. 699 00:30:18,125 --> 00:30:20,208 - The newsroom kind of erupted 700 00:30:20,208 --> 00:30:23,458 as we were trying to figure out what was happening. 701 00:30:23,458 --> 00:30:24,917 It was pretty chaotic. 702 00:30:24,917 --> 00:30:26,958 Allegedly, the reason for shooting it down 703 00:30:26,958 --> 00:30:29,667 was because it posed a hazard to flight safety. 704 00:30:29,667 --> 00:30:31,250 - [Tony] And Banias says 705 00:30:31,250 --> 00:30:34,000 the speculation immediately centered around one thing. 706 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,958 - [MJ] This incident came off the back 707 00:30:35,958 --> 00:30:38,875 of a Chinese spy balloon that was shot down, 708 00:30:38,875 --> 00:30:40,750 so there was already heightened stress 709 00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:42,792 that there could be other spy balloons. 710 00:30:42,792 --> 00:30:44,542 - [Tony] But was it just a balloon? 711 00:30:44,542 --> 00:30:47,167 Unlike other recent run-ins with military jets, 712 00:30:47,167 --> 00:30:50,208 like the infamous Tic Tac and gimbal UAPs, 713 00:30:50,208 --> 00:30:52,833 the government hasn't released any gun camera videos 714 00:30:52,833 --> 00:30:54,333 of this incident. 715 00:30:54,542 --> 00:30:57,708 US officials are simply calling it an unidentified object. 716 00:30:57,708 --> 00:30:58,875 - [MJ] There were a lot 717 00:30:58,875 --> 00:31:00,792 of people kind of speculating online 718 00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:04,375 that this was a cover-up, that these were actually UFOs. 719 00:31:04,375 --> 00:31:05,708 There were a lot of people claiming 720 00:31:05,708 --> 00:31:08,083 that this was some sort of alien invasion. 721 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:10,583 - [Tony] The US and Canada would join forces to try 722 00:31:10,583 --> 00:31:13,583 and locate the wreckage, but none was ever found. 723 00:31:13,583 --> 00:31:15,083 - [MJ] To this day, 724 00:31:15,083 --> 00:31:18,042 no country or organization has claimed responsibility. 725 00:31:18,042 --> 00:31:19,958 It still remains a bit of a mystery. 726 00:31:21,333 --> 00:31:22,917 - [Tony] At the time of this incident, 727 00:31:22,917 --> 00:31:25,792 General Glen VanHerck was the head of NORAD. 728 00:31:25,792 --> 00:31:27,083 That's the agency responsible 729 00:31:27,083 --> 00:31:29,125 for overseeing North American airspace. 730 00:31:29,125 --> 00:31:32,083 When the media first asked him about these events, 731 00:31:32,083 --> 00:31:35,292 he refused to rule out extraterrestrial forces at play. 732 00:31:35,292 --> 00:31:36,917 That was later walked back by officials, 733 00:31:36,917 --> 00:31:38,458 but it hasn't prevented 734 00:31:38,458 --> 00:31:41,625 the UFO community from suspecting a cover-up. 735 00:31:41,625 --> 00:31:43,875 What will our experts think? 736 00:31:48,333 --> 00:31:51,208 Is it possible this object was another plane? 737 00:31:51,208 --> 00:31:53,500 - Based on what the pilots are describing, 738 00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,375 the object is not moving very fast at all. 739 00:31:56,375 --> 00:31:59,417 It makes it incredibly difficult to really get a handle 740 00:31:59,417 --> 00:32:01,875 on it, because any time you get close to it, 741 00:32:01,875 --> 00:32:04,625 it whizzes past you. 742 00:32:12,042 --> 00:32:15,417 - [Lt. Tim] A plane is gonna stall out at that speed. 743 00:32:15,417 --> 00:32:17,042 It's not gonna be able to maintain 744 00:32:17,042 --> 00:32:18,250 that type of slow speed. 745 00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:22,042 So, we can really just rule out plane easily. 746 00:32:22,042 --> 00:32:23,542 - [Tony] Could this be some kind of drone? 747 00:32:27,917 --> 00:32:29,458 - [Lt. Tim] The pilots observed it 748 00:32:29,458 --> 00:32:30,833 at around 20,000 feet, 749 00:32:30,833 --> 00:32:32,292 that it's much higher 750 00:32:32,292 --> 00:32:34,542 than any commercial drones would be able to achieve 751 00:32:34,542 --> 00:32:36,500 under normal circumstances. 752 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:39,042 And when you're talking about military grade 753 00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:41,667 or really professional grade drones, 754 00:32:41,667 --> 00:32:44,250 when you see they have wings, they have control surfaces, 755 00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:47,500 so those would be really easily identifiable. 756 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:49,917 - [Tony] So what could drift about 20,000 feet 757 00:32:49,917 --> 00:32:52,000 in the air and isn't a plane? 758 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,125 - [Marc] The first conclusion 759 00:32:53,125 --> 00:32:55,500 that I started leaning towards was, 760 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:59,083 is it possible this was another spy balloon of some kind? 761 00:32:59,083 --> 00:33:01,042 - [Tony] Spy balloons, like the one from China, 762 00:33:01,042 --> 00:33:03,125 have what's called a payload attached to the bottom 763 00:33:03,125 --> 00:33:04,458 of the balloon that contains 764 00:33:04,458 --> 00:33:06,167 the actual surveillance equipment. 765 00:33:06,167 --> 00:33:08,958 But then, D'Antonio says he hears a clue in the audio 766 00:33:08,958 --> 00:33:11,208 that shuts down his theory. 767 00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:18,583 - [Marc] The pilot said it had strings hanging down. 768 00:33:18,583 --> 00:33:21,375 What the pilot didn't see was the small payload. 769 00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:25,042 It tells me that this was probably a normal balloon 770 00:33:25,042 --> 00:33:28,208 of some type that was shot down. 771 00:33:28,208 --> 00:33:29,958 - [Tony] So if it was octagonal, 772 00:33:29,958 --> 00:33:32,542 was it a group of balloons tied together? 773 00:33:32,542 --> 00:33:35,083 All we know is a national security spokesman says 774 00:33:35,083 --> 00:33:36,792 the object did not match 775 00:33:36,792 --> 00:33:40,083 the Chinese spy balloon shot down over the Atlantic coast. 776 00:33:40,083 --> 00:33:42,042 And after that spy balloon shoot down, 777 00:33:42,042 --> 00:33:43,667 the radar used by NORAD, 778 00:33:43,667 --> 00:33:46,500 the North American Aerospace Defense Command, 779 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,708 had been adjusted to detect these kinds of aerial objects. 780 00:33:54,375 --> 00:33:55,500 Our verdict? 781 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,583 Because the pilots mentioned strings, 782 00:33:57,583 --> 00:33:59,917 we're going with balloon in this case. 783 00:33:59,917 --> 00:34:01,542 Admittedly, it's impossible to determine 784 00:34:01,542 --> 00:34:04,542 that definitively without the recovery of the object. 785 00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:08,250 But we do know that it cost more than $400,000 to fire 786 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:10,458 the missile that brought the thing down. 787 00:34:10,458 --> 00:34:13,042 With that price tag for taxpayers, 788 00:34:13,042 --> 00:34:15,083 you'd think we'd be able to know what we hit. 789 00:34:18,792 --> 00:34:22,583 three videos shot in Arizona were leaked to the public. 790 00:34:22,583 --> 00:34:25,958 Without the leaks, these Homeland Security videos may 791 00:34:25,958 --> 00:34:27,417 have never been made public. 792 00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:30,125 So why the secrecy? 793 00:34:30,125 --> 00:34:32,250 We've investigated two of these cases before. 794 00:34:32,250 --> 00:34:34,708 Here is the latest clip. 795 00:34:34,708 --> 00:34:39,167 April 14th, 2021, east of Tombstone, Arizona. 796 00:34:39,167 --> 00:34:41,542 It's shortly after 11 PM and an agent 797 00:34:41,542 --> 00:34:43,292 with the Department of Homeland Security 798 00:34:43,292 --> 00:34:46,208 is tracking an A-10 Warthog plane. 799 00:34:46,208 --> 00:34:49,083 He's operating a forward-looking infrared camera, 800 00:34:49,083 --> 00:34:51,542 or FLIR, mounted atop a truck. 801 00:34:51,542 --> 00:34:54,375 The A-10 appears silhouetted because with this camera, 802 00:34:54,375 --> 00:34:58,500 hot objects are black while cooler objects appear white. 803 00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:00,875 The leaker didn't elaborate on why this plane is flying 804 00:35:00,875 --> 00:35:04,625 over Arizona or why a DHS agent would be filming it. 805 00:35:04,625 --> 00:35:07,875 But it's in our hands because nobody expected what 806 00:35:07,875 --> 00:35:10,875 happened next. 807 00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:14,208 A spherical object appears to be chasing the fighter jet. 808 00:35:14,208 --> 00:35:17,125 Like the A-10, the object's heat signature 809 00:35:17,125 --> 00:35:19,542 is also black hot. 810 00:35:19,542 --> 00:35:21,792 But when the agent changes to a different setting, 811 00:35:21,792 --> 00:35:25,708 the UAP shows up like a bright orb trailing the A-10. 812 00:35:25,708 --> 00:35:27,792 At times, the light is traveling so fast, 813 00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:30,083 the FLIR operator has problems following it 814 00:35:30,083 --> 00:35:32,375 and keeping it in frame. 815 00:35:32,375 --> 00:35:34,500 This video remains secret until it was sent 816 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:37,833 to UFO investigator Andy Marcial. 817 00:35:37,833 --> 00:35:39,583 - When I saw this and I realized 818 00:35:39,583 --> 00:35:43,500 that this was real, I understood that, you know, 819 00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:46,292 what I got my hands on was a big deal. 820 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:49,375 - [Tony] For some, this Arizona sighting falls 821 00:35:49,375 --> 00:35:52,875 in line with much of what we've heard about UAPs 822 00:35:52,875 --> 00:35:54,750 from other government sources. 823 00:35:54,750 --> 00:35:58,042 - [Amy] At an April 2023 congressional hearing, 824 00:35:58,042 --> 00:36:00,792 Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the head of AARO, 825 00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:05,875 testified that 52% of all UAP cases it has investigated, 826 00:36:05,875 --> 00:36:07,750 the objects are spherical, 827 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:10,792 most measure between 1 and 4 meters across. 828 00:36:10,792 --> 00:36:12,292 - [Tony] Orbs like this one, 829 00:36:12,292 --> 00:36:14,833 uncovered by investigative journalist Jeremy Korbel. 830 00:36:14,833 --> 00:36:18,292 This unidentified object was photographed over Mosul, 831 00:36:18,292 --> 00:36:20,250 Iraq in 2016. 832 00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:22,958 - [Amy] And usually, their method of propulsion 833 00:36:22,958 --> 00:36:24,833 is never immediately obvious. 834 00:36:24,833 --> 00:36:29,792 This sighting falls into all of the major categories. 835 00:36:29,792 --> 00:36:32,167 - [Tony] Teitel notes they've seen some similarities more 836 00:36:32,167 --> 00:36:34,333 concerning than others. 837 00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:36,875 - [Amy] Kirkpatrick also presented a number of cases 838 00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:41,500 where spherical UFOs are seen trailing military planes. 839 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:43,750 The video shows that the object is keeping up 840 00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:46,500 with the A-10 Warthog like it's nothing. 841 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,792 This has led some people to wonder whether these spheres 842 00:36:49,792 --> 00:36:54,417 are actually aliens tracking our military technology. 843 00:36:57,250 --> 00:36:58,542 - [Tony] There are many reasons 844 00:36:58,542 --> 00:37:00,708 why extraterrestrials might be interested 845 00:37:00,708 --> 00:37:03,667 in our military: surveillance, curiosity... 846 00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:06,583 One former NASA astronaut has even claimed 847 00:37:06,583 --> 00:37:10,125 that aliens prevented a nuclear exchange during the peak 848 00:37:10,125 --> 00:37:11,708 of the Cold War. 849 00:37:11,708 --> 00:37:14,708 So were aliens really monitoring the A-10 Warthog 850 00:37:14,708 --> 00:37:18,708 or was this something else flying in the plane's airspace? 851 00:37:22,417 --> 00:37:24,167 After releasing the footage, 852 00:37:24,167 --> 00:37:28,542 Andy Marcial went to his friend David Falch for answers. 853 00:37:28,542 --> 00:37:31,750 Falch is a FLIR technician and operator who works 854 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:35,583 with the exact same cameras our video was shot on. 855 00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:39,042 The first question is, could this be much ado about nothing? 856 00:37:39,042 --> 00:37:41,458 Are we simply looking at a bird? 857 00:37:41,458 --> 00:37:43,542 - [David] It appears that the object is flying around 858 00:37:43,542 --> 00:37:45,375 the same speed as the aircraft, 859 00:37:45,375 --> 00:37:49,875 which is traveling about 340 to 350 miles an hour. 860 00:37:49,875 --> 00:37:53,167 I don't know any birds that fly 350 miles an hour. 861 00:37:53,167 --> 00:37:54,125 - [Tony] If it's not a bird, 862 00:37:54,125 --> 00:37:56,208 could it be another object seen 863 00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:59,208 over the Arizona desert nowadays? 864 00:37:59,208 --> 00:38:01,208 - [Rich] Within the last year alone, 865 00:38:01,208 --> 00:38:04,958 there's been about maybe 2,200 incidents reported 866 00:38:04,958 --> 00:38:07,833 by Homeland Security of drones being used 867 00:38:07,833 --> 00:38:12,750 to carry drugs across the border and into US territory. 868 00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:15,875 However, a drone wouldn't be changing the shape. 869 00:38:15,875 --> 00:38:18,917 This particular object doesn't remain round. 870 00:38:18,917 --> 00:38:20,708 In fact, we don't know of any technology 871 00:38:20,708 --> 00:38:24,542 that changes shape like this as it flies. 872 00:38:24,542 --> 00:38:25,917 - [Tony] What kind of airborne 873 00:38:25,917 --> 00:38:27,375 object can change its shape? 874 00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:30,500 Perhaps a balloon in the process of deflating? 875 00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:31,750 - [Marc] Could it be a balloon? 876 00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:34,750 Probably not, based on the speed of its motion. 877 00:38:34,750 --> 00:38:36,917 It looks like it's something that's moving along 878 00:38:36,917 --> 00:38:40,042 under its own power fast enough so that it can stay 879 00:38:40,042 --> 00:38:41,833 in the field of the A-10. 880 00:38:41,833 --> 00:38:44,375 Now, it's still possible it could be caught 881 00:38:44,375 --> 00:38:47,042 in the fast-moving wind column. 882 00:38:47,042 --> 00:38:48,917 - [Tony] The winds in jet streams, on average, 883 00:38:48,917 --> 00:38:51,750 reach speeds of about 110 miles per hour. 884 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:53,625 But if a balloon was caught in that stream, 885 00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:55,833 how could it keep up with the Warthog, 886 00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:59,042 which typically flies at 350 miles per hour? 887 00:38:59,042 --> 00:39:02,042 So with no earthly explanation for this object, 888 00:39:02,042 --> 00:39:05,125 could we be looking at something truly extraterrestrial? 889 00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:06,583 - [Marc] It's changing it's size. 890 00:39:06,583 --> 00:39:10,583 We don't know any craft or any objects that can do that. 891 00:39:15,583 --> 00:39:16,792 - [Tony] Our verdict? 892 00:39:16,792 --> 00:39:19,375 We're calling this one a genuine UFO, 893 00:39:19,375 --> 00:39:20,500 and it's worth noting, 894 00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,958 we see striking similarities here 895 00:39:22,958 --> 00:39:25,333 to other government released videos like 896 00:39:25,333 --> 00:39:27,958 the infamous USS Nimitz Tic Tac. 897 00:39:27,958 --> 00:39:29,750 But let's be cautious here. 898 00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:34,083 We're still uncertain this object is of alien origin. 899 00:39:34,083 --> 00:39:36,750 In any case, Andy, keep 'em coming. 900 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:41,500 The greatest mystery may not be what's seen in the sky, 901 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,750 but what's been kept from view. 902 00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:45,292 And as questions grow louder, 903 00:39:45,292 --> 00:39:48,625 we'll continue searching for what's really out there. 904 00:39:49,708 --> 00:39:51,667 Thank you for watching this special episode 905 00:39:51,667 --> 00:39:53,167 of "The Proof Is Out There". 906 00:39:53,167 --> 00:39:55,000 Please send us any videos, images, 907 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,958 or sound that you think we should investigate 908 00:39:56,958 --> 00:40:00,042 and remember to keep those cameras rolling. 909 00:40:01,458 --> 00:40:04,042 [upbeat music]