This guy is financially racist
because he tried to financially and legally kill me.
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He's a bad guy. And let me just say,
if you ever get a letter from Bill Joiner
and he says, Hey, do you want some easy money?
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Don't worry about your credit. Run the other way.
Don't call him back. Stay away. Don't take his money.
'cause he'll try to take your home.
That's what I'd recommend.
That's who Bill Joiner is. Hey Kelly, how you doing?
Hey, good, Andrew, how are you to see you? Hey, you too.
Good to see you. Greetings. So for those who don't know,
where are we and what are we doing today?
Uh, we're in Orange, California.
We're in front of Planned Parenthood,
and we're here to save the babies.
Uh, not enough people know what's going on.
3000 babies in the United States are, are murdered
and aborted every day.
And I dunno if you saw the sign over here,
did you get a picture of the sign here where
they're selling the baby parts?
My understanding is they'll,
they'll actually rip off the head
and then start taking the organs off one at a time
so they can then sell them and, and make money.
So that, that's what this is all about. It's demonic.
Save the babies, save the kids.
Save my house for Bill Joyner.
God bless America. Don't tread on me.
Don't even think about it. Don't even think about it.
I got First Amendment rights
and I got Second Amendment rights.
Boom. And don't forget it. Don't tread on me. Nobody.
I'm ready to die from my country or the Lord.
Any day, any day. Bring it on. Bring it on.
Hold on here. This brownish Corolla.
There you cc the two black.
The next one, it looks like might be one I'm praying
for right now as we speak.
I think that they dated Sex for Joy,
and then they don't think that their career
will take him that way though.
But it looks like the boyfriend is
bringing the girlfriend here.
So let's see what we can do with this great coral.
They still haven't got out yet,
and I'm praying that they may see the truth
and the truth will set them free.
What the heck is going on here at Planned Parenthood?
I've heard some crazy things. Let's find out.
Hey, parent Patty Hattie.
Hi. I understand. Do you guys sell baby parts?
Do you guys sell baby parts?
I wanted to find out if you guys sell baby parts.
What, what baby parts you sell and how much they are.
Excuse me, sir. Can, who's gonna mask
On? Who, who do you who,
who qualifies to buy baby parts?
Do I have to have a card?
Do I have to have to take the vaccine?
Who gets to buy baby parts?
Because I understand there's a lot of money
to be made in this industry.
I just wanna know how it works.
Aren't you selling baby parts? Yes or no?
Do you sell baby parts? Yes or no? They wouldn't tell me.
They said, I'm on private property right now.
If you guys need to get off our
property right now, we'll leave.
That's fine. But, but are you,
how are you selling baby parts?
And how much, how much are baby parts?
How much, how much are the baby parts?
It's hard to get answers. It hard.
It is hard to get answers. You know,
they wanna know everything about us.
They wanna control us,
but they don't wanna tell us anything.
I think it has something to do with the truth about what,
what, what really the f**k is going on here.
They're all about money. We talked about that.
They know it's all about money
and they wouldn't gimme a price list.
And they're hiding behind the doors.
They're hiding behind the damn doors here.
Just like Bill Joyner hides behind the PO box,
just like he hides behind the gates of Shady Canyon.
That's a bunch of b******t if you ask me.
Bunch of cowards, cowards.
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regarding knowingly present false written evidence.
William Joyner as President of Dove Canyon Holdings.
He is a complete financial
and legal bully as he is tried to destroy me
and has destroyed me and my family financially
and legally in the preparation
and submission of knowingly false, misleading,
and fraudulent documents in his efforts to steal our home
and devastate our family.
My name is Andrew Callahan,
and this is a documentary about a guy named Kelly Johnson.
Kelly j Patriot, SoCal Kelly here. Kelly J two A.
My fingers are messed up kinda like that.
Kelly J two A. God bless America,
An outspoken patriot who hates the Democrat Party.
It's it's demonic people who kill the kids,
But not as much as he hates a man named Bill Joiner. Bill
Joiner, Who you don't know about yet,
but you're gonna learn a lot about later.
Bill Joyner stole my home.
It's all right here, but nobody cares.
There's a guy that lives over here
that rips people off financially.
I didn't know if you knew about him. He's a financial
predator and a domestic terrorist.
So I first met Kelly back on April 11th, 2021. They
Assassinated Kobe Bryant. They whacked him.
The year before 2020, if you can remember,
was a hellish time for America. In many ways.
Everyone feel like that. Everybody feel like that.
I would rather die than wear a
Mask. And I just spent
four months following Trump's campaign
trail across the country filming for my directorial debut
that would later end up on HBO.
It was called This Place Rules.
But the initial title was supposed
to be called America S***s Itself, which I far preferred.
During that three month period, we filmed an insane amount
of stuff, like an Antifa soccer game in Seattle.
I just gotta go on Antifascist school.
I gotta f*****g go Antifa. Antifa.
A series of daily wake up shots in the rv.
They began with a pro lens emerging from my tonsils
and almost used Killer Mike as a recurring voice of reason
to make sense of the political
chaos unfolding in the streets.
The truth of the matter is,
it's being made into theater by media.
It's good tv. They get ratings, they get more money
As far as capturing the craziness of that time, I think
that America S***s itself did its job
F**k. And er
you a Jew Mudhole.
But I was still disappointed for a couple reasons, mainly
'cause I didn't feel like I'd gotten any closer
to answering the why question
that I was actually curious about.
Why did the framework created by Q Anon
and Trump propaganda cause an innumerable amount of people
to jump head first down the rabbit hole endangering their
safety lives and freedom. Dominic
Pola shouted Trump won In the courtroom.
But I'm a firm believer that most people actually think
they're doing the right thing
and see themselves as logical, discerning people in general.
So I was curious about outside of politics, what economic
and social factors caused them to become so susceptible
to brainwashing in the first place?
Unfortunately, I felt like America s***s itself didn't
actually come that close to answering that question.
Not to mention the experience
of actually making the movie the year
after was its own like nightmare.
The executive producers of that film, one
of them in particular, was deeply concerned about being
under fire by his demographic for
platforming problematic ideologies, particularly Alex Jones.
And so they wouldn't move the film forward
until I recorded this insanely cringey high horse director's
chair monologue where the producers fed me lines
to make the movie studio suit.
The companies like Facebook
and Twitter, they're private companies.
I think they have a right to do whatever they want.
Uh, what am I say? That's really embarrassing.
So that sucked. And then also they made me record these like
super cringey Jimmy Kimmel style Orange Man jokes.
I think one of them was I went to a Trump rally
and all I got was COVID-19.
Like I actually had to say that.
I don't think I need to say any of that.
So, you know, between, uh, kind of being just fatigued
by talking to like 5,000 Trump supporters in two months,
and then coming to LA right after
and having to record this monologue
that made me sound like somebody I wasn't.
I definitely for multiple reasons wanted
to step away from politics pretty much for good
or until the next election.
So I pivoted toward punk rockers.
I'm about to take this balloon
to the f*****g neck and that
S**t Spring Breakers. My name is Justin.
I like big booty Latinos, Local gang members. You
Gotta drink water cab fire you drink.
It's not rocket science m**********r.
And NASCAR fans, Kyle
Bus said that he locked Daytona better than Talladega.
So if you're from around here, dude,
you gotta f*****g hate Kyle Bus. F**k Kyle
Busch hoping to never see a MAGA hat
or an Antifa flag ever again.
But then in mid-April 2021, I opened my phone
and I hear about something happening called a
White Lives Matter rally.
And I was like, what the f**k? Where's this happening at
Huntington Beach, California, only 45 minutes from la these
Are the quote, white Lives Jew matter flyers
that Huntington Beach Police have said.
They received a report about from at least one neighborhood.
It was such a drastic event,
like at least it looked that way.
So I felt like I had to go at least see what would happen.
To be honest upon my arrival, I expected
to at least see five to 10 angry whites.
Always keep this as wide
As possible too. But
instead, there was no whites.
There was mostly about 500 protestors from the local BLM
chapter who showed up an hour and a half before the call.
Time to form a standing army
to resist the Klansman. What? Oh, what
Up? What's up, man?
All gas, no breaks. What up? What's up?
How you doing? Okay, we're chilling.
It's good to see y'all out here. So
For those who don't know, where are we at right now? Man?
We're at Huntington Beach. Why are we here?
Because White Lives Matter.
Wanted to show up in the KKK, whoever the f**k shows up
and supported out, out, we're kicking them.
The f**k outta here. No cops, no k, KK, no Fascist USA.
Yeah, we're live here at Huntington Beach, California.
Huntington Beach Pier.
There's supposed to be a, uh,
a White Lives Matter rally at 1:00 PM It's about 1145.
And the, uh, the counter protest is here.
What else should I say? Channel five.
Oh yeah, you're watching Channel five News,
Huntington Beach Pier and Huntington Beach.
It seems like nowadays all you see on
TV is Black Lives Matter.
That's Black Lives Matter that, but you know what?
You don't hear every day? White Lives
Matter. Find out why
F**k white supremacy racist. Lives
Don't matter. I
Think it's inappropriate to say White lives matter simply
because we have all the power.
You know, look, I'm white. You know,
If they start shooting, get behind me.
Hashtag white privilege.
If we start shooting The cops, you need to be prepared
to put your white body in between yourself
and people of color and danger.
Um, so you just have to be willing to do that.
Uh, f**k raising, f**k Nazis, f**k all that s**t.
You can't make 'em f*****g feel comfortable here.
You gotta make 'em feel uncomfortable
as f*****g possible. That's what we're here for.
Hit the far right with the feminist left,
hit the far right with the feminist left Radical women,
Despite the fighting words of these counter protestors,
the only people there that could be remotely mistaken
for white supremacists were confused.
Local Republican guys.
I just came down here to relax.
I come here every Sunday and, uh, I don't own a plantation.
And the blacks aren't picking cotton. I see it firsthand.
See what That there's no racism.
How I have Mexican friends, white friends,
of course I have black friends.
We smoke cigars together, even down here.
And I work with Latino guys, fabulous workers.
El Salvadorian guys.
They, they're the hardest workers I ever saw.
There's no racism overblown,
To be honest. The entire
thing kind of seemed like a sham.
Maybe an FBI honeypot to identify white nationalists.
It's hard to say. But regardless, I was ready to go.
But then from the corner of my eye,
I could make out a black BMW
with an extremely determined looking driver,
heading straight to the event.
At the time, it was just a car.
But this car would soon to become known to me as the MPU.
So this is the mobile protest unit. We call it the MPU.
This is the MPU.
Just to show you, I don't do death taxes or registration.
Everything is in there for a reason. He's got a gun.
He's got a gun. Oh, but wait, it's just a staple gun.
It's got a little, little, be nice to me. Stick.
Just got a little auxiliary hammer, hammer time.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Just a little hook stick here in case you
need a little something that'll pry a little something here.
Get down. Willie Brown says Kamala,
they're trying to shut me down.
Got another one that I wear on my neck sometimes.
Ah, so you're walking down the street.
So you're walking down the street minding your own business.
Somebody says, Hey, you look weird. What's wrong with you?
Say, what's wrong with me? What are you talking about?
I support kids. Are you a girl? You're wearing a purse.
Hey, I'm just trying to pass by. Hey, your name's Kelly.
That's a girl's name.
And so in that regard, there is the Second Amendment.
And right here, and right here and right here.
So just don't forget that.
Don't forget that God bless America once again.
I come in peace, Whack.
Have a great day. God bless you. God bless America.
The moment that I saw the MPU,
my journalistic spidey senses began firing.
So I followed the car across the street
where it parked in front of the Hurley store.
You got this rolling? Yep. Alright, cool.
This was my first time meeting Kelly J two a SoCal patriot.
How's it going, you guys? You guys here for the, uh, event?
Uh, I love the Lord. I love our country.
President Trump was trying
to protect our country, protect our people.
Heads up here. This whole thing with the virus, with BLM,
with Antifa, that was to hurt President Trump.
And the reason that President Trump wasn't backed
by January 20th, the reason he hasn't been back yet is
because he didn't want to have Civil War.
He cares about the people.
I think you know where I was on January 6th. Where were you?
I think you know where I was on January 6th.
The, the Deep State is trying to control the people.
They control the banking, they control the countries.
They control the Vatican. They assassinated Kobe Bryant.
How many people know that they assassinated Kobe Bryant?
They tried to kill Tiger Woods
in that car accident recently.
Why? Uh, the Kobe Bryant deal is that he had dirt on the,
uh, on the Clintons
and he was getting ready to go in the, uh,
witness protection program and they whacked him.
But many people are asking why the chopper was flying in
dense fog, especially since
other choppers have been grounded.
I care about our country. I want
people to know what's going on. What's
Going on as a White Lives Matter rally.
Is that what's going on? Yeah. Oh, okay.
I had no idea what was going on. I heard
that there was a BLM thing going on,
and with that usually comes Antifa.
And, uh, I'm kind of anti Antifa.
It's, it's demonic people who, uh, that, that kill the kids,
drink their blood, uh, probably eat them too.
I mean, that's what they haven't put this out.
'cause when that happens, people
won't be able to believe it.
But that's the truth. And sometimes the truth hurts.
Sometimes the truth hurts. Sometimes the truth hurts.
Given that I just interviewed probably 4,000 people
for America, s***s itself with the exact same talking points
as Kelly Bar for bar, in all likelihood,
I probably would've cut it short.
Had I not asked one question.
What's the most painful piece of truth that's hurt you?
Uh, guy stealing my home. Uh, guy stealing my home.
Uh, guy stealing my home.
He's falsified a trustee deed to himself
with seven false representations on it
and stole my home to take about
600,000 equity down Laguna Hills.
And Nelly Gale ranches name's Bill Joiner.
His name's Bill Joyner.
He lives in Shady Canyon and he's, uh, demonic also.
He destroyed my family, destroyed my 25 year business,
separated and devastated my family.
So that answers your question. This dude
Sounds like he sucks. Uh,
I don't think he's a good guy, in my opinion.
He's a bad guy and he's hurt a lot of people.
But then again, look what the Democrats
are doing to others. In
Kelly's answer, the why that I talked about, which I tried
and failed to answer for the HBO project seemed to sort
of present itself on a silver platter in the way that he
so casually connected a tragic
personal situation in his life to a grander spiritual war
between good and evil in the country.
I had so many more questions for Kelly, but
before I could even get a word out, he was on the move
with four flags in hand,
approaching a blood thirsty army of hostiles.
He had this genuine look of terror
and bewilderment as he approached the corner.
And probably for good reason, 30 seconds later,
he was swarmed, not
His No ho
All lives matter.
All lives matter. This flag is for the 3000 aborted babies
that happen every day.
Why are they talking about all the people getting killed in
Chicago every weekend?
Do they care about that?
All the black people getting killed in Chicago?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shut the f**k up, b***h. F**k you. Yeah, I will.
Are you stupid b***h? F**k your life.
I hope you f*****g die. Homie me straight up.
F**k everything you represent.
Look for the truth. And keep the faith, bro.
F**k up. Kobe Bryant was assassinated by the Quinns.
Hey, hey, hey. You can see at least two men carrying
Trump, 2020 flags
and one going head to head with protestors who surround him
and rip his flag down
My broke the f**k about your hat.
Hey, man, can you just give
us an overview of what happened?
I got attacked. Someone took my hat,
someone took my flags.
And, uh, they just try to cancel you.
If they don't like your position, they just attack you
and try to cancel you second
attack you and try to cancel you,
Attack you, and try to cancel you,
attack you, and try to cancel you.
Hey. No fastest
on our f*****g streets.
Hold on. Who? Street R Street. Who street RC.
That's right. What's up?
What's up? Hey, I like the show, bro. I'm good.
I left Huntington Beach that day with a lot
of things on my mind.
But mainly I couldn't stop thinking about Kelly.
And more importantly, his arch nemesis Bill. His
Name's Bill Joiner.
I wanted to learn as much as I possibly could about the
collapse of Kelly's career, life, and family,
and figure out how
and when exactly that collapse coincided with politics.
This all connected to a theory that I've had
for a long time about
how exactly people jumped down the rabbit hole.
For the purposes of this movie,
I'm gonna name it Andrew's Radicalization Theory,
because I'm Andrew, and this is my radicalization theory.
The leading experts among those who study cults
and radicalization often points to undercurrents of hatred,
echo chambers of misinformation.
And grifter is selling t-shirts online
with provocative slogans when dissecting
and diagnosing the transformation of an
otherwise normal person into a radicalized individual.
I mean, all the empirical evidence overwhelmingly suggests
that there's an enormous 200 foot ice wall holding the
oceans in level and flat. How do you stand on Hitler?
But I believe the true catalyst without fault is a deep
personal tragedy or some kind
of negative canon event in someone's personal life
that ultimately collapses their support system,
depriving them of their three core needs,
which I believe are security, significance, and connection.
Security asks the question, am I safe?
Be it from physical danger
or safe from suffering, from heartbreak
or hunger significance asks, do I matter?
Oftentimes that can be mattering to your community,
like if you're running a soup kitchen or something.
But more often it's fulfilled through work
and contribution and output.
We don't have to go to work on Monday.
We can't go to work on Monday. Get baby, let's go, let's go.
Let the heavy hitters go.
Third core need is something
that you can't buy connection,
which in my eyes is the most essential human need connection
asks a plain and simple question, which is,
am I loved for who I am?
This is typically fulfilled through romance, family ties,
social bonds like brotherhood and comradery.
One thing I've noticed in the field, especially
with teenagers and young adults, is that the absence
of core need fulfillment causes them
to engage in attention seeking
criminal behavior to fill the void.
But with adults like Kelly, for example,
these three core needs collapsing
after they've already had maybe 20, 30, 40 years
of all them being fulfilled, causes them
to develop a vengeful, nihilistic self victimizing worldview
as an overwhelmed trauma response,
often leading them straight into politics,
specifically reactionary politics.
That's because I believe that in the fight
or flight state that happens
after a traumatic event, people are the most susceptible
to being brainwashed by politicized media
as it feeds on their anger and bewilderment.
We have videos of firefighters using women's purses
to try and put out the fires,
and they have intentionally tried to drive out all
of the white people from the firefighting
force in Los Angeles.
It's biblical. Uh, and it's a message.
There's a ton of examples of this,
but this movie's about Kelly.
So I wanna stay focused in Kelly's story about Bill
and his home being taken, which caused the collapse
of his family and business.
I saw a chance to finally tackle the why
and to prove my theory about the connection
between collapsed unmet needs
and conservative political psychosis.
So I found Kelly on Facebook
and set up a secondary interview at a motel in Orange County
to get some more information.
Hey, we are in Huntington Beach, California
at the Shore Break Hotel.
And it, uh, and my
prediction is that Donald Trump will be back over the next
several months with possibly some military intervention.
In the meantime, uh,
I believe President Trump will be coming back once these
audits start rolling out when people can see the truth.
Part of the problem is, is this false narrative.
So what happened at the rally after we left, I
Went right back to the same corner
where I just got attacked.
So I'm standing there, some, some big burly cop all
of a sudden grabs my left arm and says, you're arrested.
Officers eventually confiscate the man's flag
and take him into custody
And manhandled me, getting me into the back of an SUV
that had metal seats, metal seats,
and they put me at an angle uncomfortable
destroying my wrist.
I asked him to loosen the handcuffs
and they expressly told me they
aren't meant to be comfortable.
And I was arrested for the first time in my life
after being an attorney for about 30 years.
They, they wrote me up for having a dangerous weapon at a
public event that was not a weapon
that was obviously a flagpole, and it was in the air.
I later learned that dangerous weapon in question is
referred to as the for banger Kelly's battle staff
that he brings everywhere he goes. What
This is, is the, for banger, four banger is
for flags on one pole,
channel five live worldwide, Hollywood and
Vine. Being that I
wasn't there for the actual arrest,
I asked him if we could recreate the scene.
All lives matter. Okay?
You're Arrested. Oh my God, for what he
Did. I didn't even say, I was
just blown away.
He didn't say anything. No,
Let's act it out like it's happening.
Let's start, let's start from the top.
Kobe Bryant was assassinated by the Clintons.
Come here Nazi. You're going to Guantanamo. Oh
My gosh. What did I do?
Am I getting
Canceled? The Democrats don't
like you. They're gonna cancel you.
Oh, man. So one thing that we talked about
during our interview is you mentioned that, uh,
you had your home stolen
by a shady real estate agent named Bill Joiner. He's
Falsified a trustee deed to himself
with seven false representations on it.
And he had, uh, a piece of paper that he prepared saying
that he owned my home and it was a false document.
And he used that to steal my home
As a lifelong renter.
I had no idea what the hell Kelly was talking about.
So I set us up in the bathroom to get down
to the nitty gritty of what really happened.
So going back to the very beginning, how did this all start?
Uh, sometime in, in late October, early November, 2006,
I received the, uh, unsolicited, uh,
letter from the Joiner group saying, Hey,
we've got a family trust.
We've got some money available. Easy loans.
Don't have to worry about all the, uh, formalities that the,
the, the banks and the typical lenders have.
And, uh, they'll loan money.
They've loaned money in my area, uh,
which is Laguna Hills, Nellie Gale Ranch.
Uh, you know, I had a lot of debt. I had a law office.
I had a home. So a traditional bank loan would be
maybe be difficult to get.
So this was a way for me to get some funding. You have
A family, right? Yeah.
Uh, three kids, Kyle, Kaylee, and Sydney.
Figured I'd check. I followed up.
Uh, it seemed like, uh, you know, easy money,
it seemed like I would qualify.
So this letter says I can give you between 35,000
and $3 million after only just a five minute phone call.
How much did you ask for initially?
A hundred thousand. Okay.
Keeping in mind that this was through 2008, 2009, 10,
the worst financial crisis our country's had
since the Great Depression.
So this guy knew that that was occurring
and I was four, I think four months late with him.
Four times 15. It was about $6,000.
Uh, that's when Bill Joyner filed a notice of default on a,
on a million, half plus value home.
And thereafter, on February 1st, 2017, all
of a sudden there were eight officers
and six squad cars that came knocking on our door.
They took us out at gunpoint
and I had on flip flops, I had shorts and a t-shirt,
and they wouldn't let me go back into the
home and get anything else.
Kelly says that in their hands,
orange County Sheriff's had a signed document
that said his home now belonged to Bill Joiner.
Through this document, he stole my home.
What Kelly continuously refers to
as a theft was actually just a foreclosure
of which there was over 12 million
after the Great Recession in 2008.
It was one of the most profound events in generations
with huge consequences for the American economy
and households throughout the country. It
Was very difficult time for our family.
Our three kids had to move out
and move in with friends at that point in time,
and they were with friends for several months.
My wife and I went our own ways.
Just a few months after the foreclosure,
Kelly's wife took full custody of their kids
as his mental health and financial
stability continued to spiral.
I, I was functionally homeless.
I was functionally homeless. I slept in my car.
I didn't have places to stay. I didn't have income.
I went from having a law office to not being able to work.
And during this timeframe,
because of what Bill Joyner did to me,
we never got back together as a family.
Never. No. To this day,
Upon further research,
I learned something pretty interesting, which is
that the home foreclosure
to capital Rioter Pipeline was overflowing
and analyzing the public records of the 125 January 6th.
Capital rioters, arrested and convicted.
60% of them had recently filed for bankruptcy.
Half of them were in severe debt to a creditor,
and 20% had recently lost their homes as a result
of eviction and foreclosure.
Looking back at America's s***s itself, I began to wonder
how many of the people I had spoken to during the heat
of 2020 had a similar story to Kelly
and had totally normal stable lives that were derailed
by financial hardship way
before politics came into the picture.
But before I drew any wild conclusions about, I don't know,
two party electoral politics, being a corporate scam,
engineered by a singular power structure
to evenly divide the public and to monetize consumer groups
and keep them busy fighting each other while the ruling
class tightens their monopoly on wealth
information and natural resources.
I had to ask the question,
was Kelly really normal before all this?
His Facebook page had a pretty limited selection of media,
so there wasn't much to look at.
I asked Kelly if he had any footage or recordings of himself
and his family in the home before it was stolen.
He said, yeah, and let me borrow a VHS tape
of home movies filmed back in the good old days
before everything came crashing down.
These are the Johnson Family tapes. I hope you guys enjoy
The de de Hi.
Hi. Hi. How are you baby? There's Kyle.
Kyle's here. Kyle's here. Hi.
You gimme a big hug.
No, Kaylee, can daddy have a kiss, kiss? No.
That's how you need to treat those men. Good.
Top here's Mommy.
I wish you the best of luck
and hope that everything goes
absolutely great for you in the future.
Shannon. Ready? Ready.
Alright. Wants a noodle? Is this on? Hey, noodle.
Here, here, here. Kyle, you're up. Here's a noodle.
Do the noodle dance. Hey, that was cool. We got it.
Oh, how are you little girl? Come on, miss Piggy.
Hey, what are you getting?
Come get a little snack. Oh, she's racing.
Let's go see the doggies. Come on, come on, come on.
Let's go outside. Oh, dropping those little bombs.
Tail a wagon. Oh, miss C Oh, little pork stir.
Kelly was not lying about
how dope his life was back at the old house,
but still I was fascinated by the sheer number
of animals living at the property at one time.
Good girl. Snowy. Oh honey, look how cute. Rudy the rat.
There's his tail. He is a male. He is. Got a big sack there.
See the little frogs there? I, what do we got over there?
We got the new tank. That is the stingray new
125 gallon tank here. Ooh,
They're all land now. Yay.
Yeah, there's a re rad.
Like he just had some surgery, but he's doing pretty good.
And there's old co buster, little pygmy goat. Yeah. Okay.
Alright. Valentine's weekend. February, 1697.
Heading to the Ritz later signing off.
And I rang the doorbell.
I don't know that anybody's answering here.
This was our home. This is our home at, uh,
it looks a lot different
'cause these people have really, I think they really
destroyed the, uh, the outer portion of our property.
They put all this, this plants, all these plants in here.
It looks like they're trying to barricade
themselves in there, kinda like a prison.
Kinda like Bill Joyner's home in Shady Canyon. For
Kelly, the physical home itself was his security,
but it also bled into his significance
in the timeline of his life.
The home was the ultimate symbol of material achievement.
Kelly was born in a mobile home in Iowa
to two working class parents.
And after getting straight A's
and playing football in high school, he followed his dreams
of moving to California where he graduated from USC
and went on to study law at Pepperdine,
ultimately establishing himself
as a prominent bankruptcy attorney in the
upscale Laguna Hills area.
Man, we had a great pool in jacuzzi.
Uh, we had a koi pond.
We had a koi pond that I built with my own hands, Gail.
We actually had about 47 animals.
We had dogs, cats, rabbits, and a potbelly pig.
Miss piggy, double digit rabbits, double digit cats.
My next door neighbor was the vice president,
chief General Counsel of Taco Bell.
As you see, it's an equestrian area.
There's 32 miles of horse trails. Nellie Gale Ranch. Why
Don't you guys run over there and I'll take your picture,
But you don't Go into the street, do you?
Right up over here on the left, uh, top portion,
those first two windows are, uh, the, uh,
bath in the master, uh, bedroom.
Whoa.
Tackle The other window here.
Kind of in the middle is, uh, Kyle's bedroom. So where are
You going today? I'm
going to school. Is it your first day?
It's my first day. Okay. Go down by the first day of school.
Bye bye. You're going to school and I'm going to work. Okay.
And then over on the far right is, uh, Sydney's room.
And then Kaylee's room was across the hallway from Sydney's
in the back of the house overlooking the pool
jacuzzi and koi pine.
We had a lot of fun here and it was a real family oriented
Ow For Halloween.
That was really, really fun.
'cause what we do, we set up tables right here.
We'd all decorate, we'd all bring food,
we'd all have our candy, and we'd all line up out here
and just with all these neighbors here,
And look sunlight.
I had everything
that I'd accumulated my entire lifetime in this home.
And that's everything that I had in the world.
So when Bill Joyner took that away from our family,
he took me away from our foundation, the foundation
of our family being our home.
It's kinda like a lot of things
that are going on in our world right now.
Nobody cares about the truth that a guy does this to me.
A 25 close to 30 year attorney steals my home
and the legal system allows it to do it.
And then President Trump wins the election in a landslide.
But the media says, no, no, no. Joe Biden won.
And, and I see a parallel there, taking my home by fraud,
taking the election by fraud.
That's the parallel, you know, same people, different day.
It seemed like through Kelly's story,
my initial thesis about political fanaticism being built
atop of unprocessed trauma was proving
itself in a clear cut fashion.
But then again, even if I was right, who cares?
Too often in today's world, reaching conclusions
and raising awareness about things
that are going on without offering a helping hand is exalted
as a noble cause Sometimes it feels like as a generation,
we haven't actually moved on from the Ney 2012 model,
which suggests that if a bunch
of people know about something
and collectively voice their outrage
together, that thing will change.
But most of the time it never does.
And so I became struck with a genuine desire
to help Kelly move on, help him process his resentments,
and most importantly move on from Bill Joiner.
But how he was devastated in a way
that at the time I just couldn't understand.
I, it, it hit me hard. It hit me emotionally.
It hit me financially. It hit me legally, obviously.
And it impacted our family.
And I'm, I'm trying to move on,
but I, I would like to get justice at some point in time.
We need some justice. We need justice for our country.
And the Johnson family needs justice.
He's a financial predator and a domestic terrorist.
Hope you get all the money you need, bill.
Hope you get all the money you need.
Go to hell, go to jail, whichever comes first.
I figured that the first step in helping Kelly would
probably be enlisting the help of his children.
So I asked for their numbers. He said,
don't worry about a phone number, just come by on a Friday.
I'm gonna be taking my oldest son Kyle to an event,
a justice for January 6th.
Rally.
U-S-A-U-S-A-U-S-A America first.
Yo, he might done Google bill.
He Vietnamese folks are fired up. They don't want communism.
They've already seen communism.
We are here at the FBI office in Orange County,
their FBI field office at 4,000 West Metropolitan
Drive in Orange, California.
Kelly's a great guy. I've known Kelly for months.
I think he's probably the most committed
patriot here in Orange County.
He's always going out with his flags
and, you know, standing alone against the tide.
Kelly's son is awesome.
He actually looked exactly like Kelly just,
you know, 30, 40 years younger.
Uh, so my name's Kyle Johnson
and then, uh, my dad is Kelly.
I'm his son. And yeah, we're just out here today, uh,
just out here protesting.
You know, it's my first time at one of these Johns
and uh, just happy to be out here.
Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for the candle. Sweet.
God bless America. They're trying to take our country.
Let's get it back. Let's get it back. People gotta wake up.
So, uh, yeah, with this like it's uh, it's a cool way to,
uh, connect with him and like,
obviously it's not my favorite thing in the world,
but I do see a lot of the points of like
where he's coming from and I could understand why he's
so passionate about these things.
Yeah. So it's cool to be a part of that, just
to be supportive of him.
The occupational regime is founded upon a swamp
of lies and depravity. What are some of
The other things that you and your dad
Do together besides this?
Yeah, so I mean, uh, we like to go on bike rides.
Uh, that's like one of the funnest things we'll do is go hit
up, uh, either like Newport or Huntington Beach
and just go, uh, you know, get some sun.
That kind of stuff. You know, just watch the sports.
But honestly, I mean this is something
that he's pretty passionate about, so I've kind
of just learned to like cater to that,
if that makes sense a little bit.
We're gonna sing the national anthem in conjunction
with the J six prisoners
who do this every night from their selves.
Oh, say, can you see
by the light for the
of the and the
home of God.
Good. Joe Biden, Biden. Team. USA team.
USA. Let's get it back folks. How
Often do you see your dad?
Uh, uh, Kelly. I see him.
Uh, yeah, I see him every time I'm in town. Uh, you say Kes?
Kes. We got a, I got a lot of nicknames for him.
Uh, probably my favorite one's. Uh, son you
Call him. You call him son.
Son. Every now and then. Yeah. How come?
You know, I just think like one day it was just, uh,
I think we were just hanging out one day
and it just for some reason just just
said it and it kind of just stuck.
Yeah. But yeah, no, sometimes, you know,
I just feel like his pops.
But he's a good guy. You feel like his dad? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. How come? You know, I just gotta like, you know,
he'll go off on these little tangents, you know,
get pretty passionate about stuff.
I'm like, you know, hey, like it's
okay. Like, he'll calm down.
Say her name her,
There he is, He's hanging out with the poor
Bearer. Had a couple extra flight
for guys. Stop by.
People say you look like each other.
And I say, well, we're related. He thinks he's my dad.
Yeah, this is my son.
Daddy tackle me. No, he was gonna come tackle you brother.
Tackle, ah, tackle you.
Ah, you
America.
The Torry lanes. Megan thee stallion controversy is the
January 6th of hip hop. Undoubtedly.
What do you mean by that? Uh, in the sense that,
you know, we don't know all the evidence out there about
what Torry Lanes did or what Megan thee stallion's saying.
You know what I mean? It's just a he said, she said.
And I think we need to wait for the real
evidence to come out.
Musician Torry Lanes convicted
of shooting rapper Megan Thee stallion sentenced
to 10 years in prison.
But my favorite solo rappers from Wu-Tang Clan are j**z
of the genius and Rayquan the chef.
And then I guess for more modern stuff,
I do like 21 Savage a lot.
It's a knife, you know what I mean?
I, myself, I grew up big w****r,
I guess you could say. You know what I mean? Wait,
Wait, what do you mean? I don't
Know. I just like all kinds
of stuff really. All kinds of rap.
And I just think it's, I like hip
hop just 'cause you know, it's cool man.
It's a lot of charisma. A lot of machismo. I think it's cool
To a certain extent.
There was only so much I could handle of that g*****n rally.
I was there to talk to Kyle
and while it was pretty obvious
that their traditional father son dynamic had been warped
by the eviction, Kyle didn't seem
to care too much about his dad's over the top politics.
So I became much more curious about Kelly's daughter,
Kaleigh Kelly had dropped a couple small hints about her
personality suggesting
that maybe just maybe she was a liberal
And my daughter at UCLA is kinda left field.
'cause that's kind of how she's been
indoctrinated, uh, in that way.
So yeah, know we kinda lost her a couple years ago.
What do you think Kaylee would say if she saw
both of you guys out here right now?
She'd probably roll her eyes and laugh a little
bit, but she probably wouldn't be thrilled.
This is my necklace.
It basically means, uh, sic, WLW
so it means woman love and woman. How
Do, why do you have it?
Oh, because I'm gay. Gay.
I discovered this in college
because apparently not everyone
wants to make out with girls at parties.
Then I came out April of 2020, so quarantine
and um, I mean since then I've just hated men more
and more. So I ain't
Trying to have babies right now.
So we fought with a rub, but I got a raw
B***h when I came out to him.
I said, I'm bi. Does this hair make me look gay?
Uh, why do you wanna look gay? Yeah. Are you gay? Huh?
Huh? Bi. Okay. Super.
And then he said, you know what Kaylee, I'm Trisexual.
And I was like, what the f**k does that mean?
And he was like, I like brown, black and Asian.
And I was like, well that doesn't include mom.
Um, anyway, I don't know if you can include that.
I used to say I'm Trisexual.
I like black, brown and Asian women.
He was so high that day.
Like, I honestly didn't know if he like understood.
My dad is high 24 7
and he does stuff like his normal is being high.
Like if, I don't know if I've ever seen him not high. Why
Is wake up embarrassed?
Wake up, wake up, excerpt your head outta your ass
and see what the f**k is going on right now.
It's very important. If you don't,
we're gonna f*****g lose rights.
If not die, you're never gonna have those rights
Back. White
privilege people, we are not losing any rights. At
The way Kaylee described it,
her dad was a somewhat conservative, quirky, mellow,
suburban dude until the family began
having financial troubles.
When we started having financial difficulties.
And when Bill Joyner entered the picture,
my dad became very obsessive.
Bill Joyner stole my home.
It's all right here, but nobody cares.
Bill Joyner just became like the antagonist.
Like that was the person who
was the end all be all worst person,
most terrible person in his life who was
actively trying to destroy him.
Are these people that live here rip other people off
and steal other people's money?
Is that how they, is that how they f*****g get in here?
When's the last time the feds came? Tell me.
I, at first I don't think he handled
the, handled it the best.
Um, he was almost in like a little bit
of a denial stage. At first.
He was really like fighting like he was, you know,
over 40 hours a week, like typing s**t, reading s**t.
He was just trying all of these different things.
And like I said, like he wasn't working like this was all
that his time was devoted to,
This is a flyer that I had prepared, uh,
entitled Bill Joyner stole my home.
And uh, it sets forth the 10
or 15 code sections that he violated by doing what he did.
I gave a little background on, on him
where he lives in this area called Shady Canyon,
appropriately named Shady Canyon.
He hides behind the gates of Shady Canyon.
He has a PO box for his business.
So he, he's really nowhere
where anybody can access them because he's hiding.
There's a guy that lives over here
that rips people off financially.
I didn't know if you knew about him. If,
if not, you should know about 'em.
Just stay away from him. His name's Bill Joyner.
Just don't do business with the guy stole my home in Nellie.
Ga Let me give you one of these flyers.
You don't know Bill Joyner do ya, bill?
No, I know Wally Joyner. Oh, he's okay. Wally's. Okay.
Bill Joyner rips you off. Why?
Financially on, on real estate
deals, you gotta be careful with him.
He lives here in Shady Canyon. He screws people.
He definitely screwed me.
And, and then he hides
and then he hides behind his attorneys.
Like I said, he spends more time on these things than his
family and that's very difficult.
Despite everything I said, I love my dad
and I really want the best for him.
I know that he's a good person,
but it's been a long time, I think since I've seen, I,
I think it's been a long time
since I've actually seen my dad.
Well, okay, we'll just walk, we'll just walk. Okay.
Daddy, I can't walk, walk with me. I'll hold your hand.
Okay. Okay.
Now that I'd met both Kyle
and Kaylee, I wanted to get them together
to brainstorm on ways that we could help their dad let go
of his resentments and hopefully
become a caring father again.
But I wasn't sure how to get the kids together.
That was until Kyle told me he was having a project X style
frat party the next weekend at PE Chico State
and that Kaylee would be there.
So I hopped on my favorite highway,
interstate five and headed north.
But along the way, somewhere near Stockton,
I realized there was a huge problem in my plan.
Kyle is a freshman and freshman parties suck ass.
So I had to think fast about how
to make Kyle's function pop off in a last ditch effort
to recruit party goers for Kyle Shindig.
I made a pit stop at the local skate park in Chico.
Whereas if sent from the heavens, a prophet emerged,
Hey b***h, I'm from the gutter.
I don't use a brother when I'm f*****g
with your mother mama Super soaker dunk.
You don't want me on your bumper momma call m**********r,
you won't catch me with no suckers.
Watch me do this. I'm off two fists. Yo b***h in the back.
And she Y two. This
The man said his name was simply Uncle Pill,
a Chico resident and king of the skate park
with an extensive social network seeing no other option.
I told Uncle Pill to invite everyone he knows
to Kyle's party and gave him the address.
The rest was history.
Have you guys got a drink? Put that s**t in the air.
Have a f*****g good ass time. Let's get f****d up.
That shit's for f*****g Kyle, man.
Uh, Kyle's just a great guy.
You know, he showed me life like I've never seen it before.
I f**k with my n***a Kyle. I f**k with my n***a Kyle.
That's it. What's your favorite thing about Kyle?
My my favorite thing about Kyle, he gets b*****s.
That's why I follow Kyle. He gets the b*****s
And he has good ethics. Kyle.
He has OCD, oversized c**k down syndrome.
Now you don't know about the real Chico blood On my mamas.
This ain't s**t we used to.
This b***h patch strippers getting it really doing
s**t really busting.
Thats open type of s**t. You acting hard.
B***h that didn't get you smoke.
I'm choking on this fire b***h.
I'm aiming through the smoke. Remember
smoking Reggie in streets?
I'm still broke but I'm still doing drills.
B***h, I'm good with the ball. Hey b***h.
Hey what you man
for all up in my phone like you m***********g task
force all up in my phone.
B***h you different from my last one.
I ain't really tripping. B***h,
I'll bless you like a pastor.
You n***a really tripping. B***h.
I'll turn him in up Passport.
I ain't never lacking b***h Streets is who I blast for.
They looking for a plug. I'm the n***a that they asked for.
I'm hopping on his plate. I ain't even got a passport.
Daddy b***h. I'm from the gta.
Everything was going quite well until
for some reason Kyle's roommate became very offended
by Uncle Pill's performance.
Hey he who's up there? His hands aren't up.
His hands aren't up. No. Look at his n***a hands aren't up.
Hey dude, Doug
the n***a.
Brent, watch out. No,
that's my little n***a where he from.
It seems as if things are going in a negative direction.
Hey, what you wanna do? What the f**k is going on?
Don't tripping. He drunk check him.
Okay, well he is drunk but I don't give a f**k right now.
This that's, no one jumped him.
He wanted to get in my face. Hey bro,
I just broke my hands and I'm about to go
to the hospital. Kyle, there was just
A fight in your backyard.
No way. Was it sick? It was sick. Alright,
Bet. No.
Yeah, I definitely, uh,
definitely blame Bill Joyner a little bit just
for like the predatory style of like loans
that he would give out.
Like at the end of the day,
like targeting people while they're down is just wrong.
And I get like, I'm all about capitalism.
But at the same time though, like yes you
are. What up homie?
Hey Jelly Charlie,
Both you guys went up, uh, to hang with each
Other and hang with. Yeah, so
we're, we're just chilling in my bedroom right now
with, uh, Andrew and the gang.
Listen, there's gonna be a lot of hoes here tonight.
Any advice for me?
Uh, just be careful.
Double wrap and maybe wear a body condom.
Dad. Dad, should I get some women tonight?
Kaylee, you know what?
Uh, it's good to be friendly with all people,
but, uh, you gotta, you know, uh, love the one you're with,
huh uh but, uh, what, what does that even mean?
You know, see what you can get there. Kely. Huh?
As we wrapped up, the kids revealed a shocking fact
that I couldn't have ever believed in a
million years. Oh my
God. The craziest part
is he hasn't even ever met the
Guy. Yeah, the f*****g like
Bill Jordan, the f*****g guy
who ruined his life, he's
Never even met him.
Kelly Johnson has never met Bill Joiner. Bill
Joiner, The boogeyman,
the man he claims ruined his life, destroyed his career
and separated his family.
I've never met him. I've never met him.
So it was over the phone. Yeah.
My understanding is he's kind of a smaller guy.
He's one of those small guys.
I would have to think that he's kind of an elitist, uh,
you know, cabalist type person.
A little puny, wealthy guy who just tries to destroy people.
He could just be a person behind the curtain
who just maybe doesn't exist
and maybe he's just the guy that they write checks to.
I don't know if that's even a real guy.
And so after Kyle's party, I hatched a new idea.
Mediation. I figured that if I could sit Kelly down
with Bill, maybe they could just have a man
to man straightforward dialogue
and that would take the edge off of it.
What do you think you'd say to him if you saw him in person?
Um, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not a vulgar person.
I'm not a violent person.
I would just ask him, why'd you do this bill?
And was it worth it? And
Thankfully Kyle and Kaylee were on board with the idea.
So like, obviously that outcome right now is like final,
like, like that house has been sold already.
Like there's other people living in there.
Like that's, that's done. You know? Mm-hmm.
But, um, some type of like, you know, reevaluation of
that case and like what happened with like,
maybe provide some closure for Kelly, if
that made sense. Literally
Kelly and his arch nemesis were just able to like,
punch out a conversation. We wouldn't be here.
We gotta find Bill joint.
Yeah, I think, uh, that's the next step.
If I wanted to pull this off, I had
to first reach Bill Joyner.
So I began by writing a polite email.
First we have to choose a poem.
Helvetica in Nue, regular 11 point.
He's not gonna be able to read that. He
is like 65. What kind
Of font do you think Bill Joyner would use?
18 point font. The Pirate Bull.
Wait. Graffiti font,
Subway, New York Fight.
Take take your community.
Am American typewriter is pretty like creepy.
Like to Hello Bill. We've been watching you
While you Sleep.
Sincerely Kelly's army.
All right, so Newton's new Roman.
Hello, Mr. Joiner. Joiner.
Several months ago I met an interesting character
by the name of Kelly Johnson. Um,
Since the election, Kelly has been on the front lines
of, of nearly every, every Patriot
Protest, Capital P and demanding a recount
And accosting strangers, You look out for Bill, join.
Stay away from him. Shady Canyon. No trespassing
With the absurd allegation.
If you see him keep running.
He stole my home down in Nel Gale Ranch. He's a bad guy that
You Stole. Stole, stole his
His home. Home. Yeah.
Do you guys know who Hunter Biden is?
I've heard that Hunter Biden and Bill Joyner are tight.
He's tied, he's tied in with the White House. Oops.
Careful, careful. If you go this way,
look after Bill Joyner.
I'm sure you're familiar. I hope you
You'd be willing to talk, talk more with me.
That's good. Maybe we could even play golf sometime.
Yeah, I like that. You guys ready? Should I hit it?
Yeah, send it.
Unfortunately, bill did not respond to our emails
or our phone calls and didn't acknowledge the edible
arrangement that we sent to his residence.
So I figured it was time to pay his workplace a visit.
Bill's office was a lifeless corporate park.
The kind of place I'd never want to be,
but surely if I wanted to find this guy
that was the place. So what's on your mind?
Uh, my lunch right now, frankly,
we get a free lunch on Fridays,
which is very exciting for me.
I guess I hate paying for lunch.
Our company is actually holding like an event today
where they're going out and they're actually buying us lunch
and is a way to kind of like boost some
morale and get people back together. So.
So what's your uh, 40 year plan?
Get rich and retire young. What
Do you wanna do when you retire? Golf,
Drink and hang out with my friends and family.
What's your favorite way to haze someone into the company?
Rotten Eggs in the desk is a good one.
Uh, super glue them to their chair.
That's one of my favorites.
When this guy started, he doesn't know this,
but I took all of his tires off his car and rotated them.
He's got Get a second.
Do you know Bill Joiner? I don't.
Have you ever seen Bill Joiner before? No.
Since a friendly introduction seemed out of the question,
and being that his office was technically in a public
building, I figured I'd also take the elevator
upstairs to give the door a knock.
I'm actually kind of nervous 'cause if he is here,
it's gonna be like super f*****g awkward.
What the hell am I gonna say? Hey,
we're we're making a documentary film.
Yeah.
F**k dude.
They're probably all working from home, man.
So I'm thinking that like literally nobody works here.
As the phone calls and the emails continued,
I figured I'd also pay to join the country club
where he's listed as a member in the hopes
of maybe running into him at the Chinese
lunar New Year's celebration.
So we're at the, uh, shady Canyon, lunar New Year banquet.
I think, uh, a lot of these people probably know Bill,
but uh, I don't want to blow my chances,
so I'm not gonna ask too many people if they know.
Bill. Do you know a guy named, uh, bill Joiner? I do not.
Have you seen this guy before?
Uh, I don't think so.
As the chances of physically meeting Bill became slimmer
and slimmer, I hatched a new theory, which is
that maybe Kelly didn't actually need to sit down with him
for mediation and it would be enough
to just physically see him in the flesh, even from afar,
to realize that Bill is no more than a mortal man made
of meat and bones, much like himself.
Not a baby eating Democrat demon from the underworld,
as Kelly often paints it.
Yeah, I mean, that's how my dad paints him,
is like this big scary like monster, which maybe he is like,
you know, metaphorically.
But in the end, he is probably just like a 60-year-old
conservative white male.
I'm literally describing my dad, but
Seeing no other option.
I ordered Kelly and I some Gilly suits online
and hatched a plan to get a covert visual ID on bill from
as close to his house as legally possible.
Bill. Truth and Justice is heading your way.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Bill, we're gonna get you, we to get you. Happy Halloween.
Ha ha. Bill Joy winner. We're coming out to get you.
We're gonna find you. We're gonna find out if you really
exist and if you don't exist, we're gonna verify that too.
Oh yeah. Look at this. I think it's over here
where those big McMansions are.
It's like the f*****g Wild West Iron Man.
But this was the old West.
He'd be dead right now because someone would've shot him.
And the old Wesley wouldn't have tolerated this.
Not that I would do that and
it wouldn't have even had to be me.
It would've been someone before me.
'cause he did this to other people. He screws people.
He definitely screwed me.
And, and then he hides if he's hiding,
I think he's hiding right up there.
What would you, uh, say
to him if you saw him? Why'd you rip me off?
As we tried different vantage points, we came
to the realization that from literally nowhere on the hiking
trail was the inside of Bill's house
or driveway actually visible.
So unfortunately it was another failed mission.
But, uh, you know, this is just part of the journey. Oh,
Just the beginning, man.
Appreciate it. Yeah, you're a good Gilly. You're
A good Gilly Man. Thanks.
Thanks.
After trying and failing three different times
to find Bill, my team
and I pretty much hit a creative standstill with the film
and really had no idea how to proceed.
The only option to get in contact with them is
to pursue unconventional measures.
We've already done every
unconventional measure if possible. We've
Done, we've done most unconventional measure measures,
but like, we haven't left him a letter.
Nah, letter. Just like creepy
as f**k. Just call him again.
Yeah, let's do that. How many more numbers do you have?
Quite a few. Hey Bill, this is Evan Gilbert Katz.
I'm just calling 'cause I reached out
to you over email a couple days ago
about a documentary that I'm making.
You're very familiar with my subject.
I was wondering if you'd be available
for comment or interview.
Feel free to reach me anytime at this number.
Thanks for your time. Hope you have a great day. You
Hit him up on email twice.
You've hit him up on LinkedIn.
You've also left that message.
So there's no way that Bill doesn't know about
you and about the documentary.
So if he doesn't respond, it means
that he doesn't want to like, get near the story.
If the purpose of the movie is
to bring Kelly's family back together,
it's probably actually worth it to hire an actor
to play Bill Joiner, someone who's dealt
with like deprogramming people from cults.
And then we should have them act
as Bill in virtual reality model the VR
character off of Bill.
Tell Kelly that Bill's too scared to meet him in real life
because Kelly thinks that Bill's like a huge
p***y. Anyway, my
Understanding is he's kind of a smaller guy.
He's one of those small guys that has a lot of money,
Have the bill actor be so familiar with the documentary
and subject matter that like he can't slip up
and just say like, all the right s**t.
They wanna know everything about us.
They wanna control us,
but they don't wanna tell us anything.
I think it has something to do with the truth about what,
what, what really the f**k is going on here.
And they're hiding behind the doors.
They're hiding behind the damn doors here.
Just like Bill Joyner hides behind a PO box,
just like he hides behind the gates. A shady canyon.
I'm sorry Kelly, it was wrong of me to do that,
and I'm so sorry you deserved better than that, Kelly.
I just think it would be cool. So
the bill actor is the therapist.
The bill actor is the therapist connected
to a VR system. Basically,
You need to reconnect with your family, Kelly,
disconnect from politics and reconnect with your family
before it's too late.
The real thesis of this documentary is
that men benefit from therapy.
Wait, how do we even like know
if Bill Joyner actually stole Kelly's home?
Actually stole Kelly's home, actually stole Kelly's home,
actually stole Kelly's home.
As we deliberated on ways to conclude the film,
I reached a sobering realization, which is
that I hadn't really been questioning Kelly's narrative,
not just about the home, but about himself.
He painted this image of himself as a squeaky clean,
Midwestern family man, who by no fault of his own,
fell into the jaws of a heartless scammer
who took everything from him for no reason
Because of Bill Joyner stealing our home.
I was away from my son for his senior year of high school,
which can't, can't be replaced.
But while investigating Bill, I failed
to also investigate Kelly.
I mean, who was Kelly really?
I went back and re-watched all of our interview footage,
which totaled over a hundred hours
to see if maybe I'd missed something along the way
or if there was any loopholes in his story.
And I found one specifically surrounding
his disbarment as a lawyer.
Here's what Kelly said about it.
Because of what Bill Joyner did to me,
I ended up getting suspended by the state bar.
Uh, why? Uh, just
for a couple small little issues with clients.
Nothing. Just a little slap on the wrist. Stop.
No, no big deal. Then
I look back at the interview with Kaylee
who said he was disbarred far before the foreclosure.
I think I was about 13 when my dad was disbarred
and couldn't practice law anymore.
Then we were evicted. Um, two years later.
To me, the chicken coming
before the egg here was a huge loophole in Kelly's story.
So I decided to sit down with attorney Ben Marsh, who agreed
to open Kelly's legal file
and explained to me exactly why he was disbarred.
My name is Ben Marsh. I'm an attorney here
in Los Angeles, California.
I jumped on Google first
and foremost just to try to find a case number, uh,
and ultimately came across Kelly Johnson's Orange County
Superior Court action that he had filed against
William g Joiner.
Kelly had 21 counts of misconduct.
Yes, three counts
of entering into improper transactions with clients.
Two counts of advising, violation of the law, two counts
of failing to report sanctions
of a thousand dollars or more.
Two counts of failing to employ only means consistent
with two counts of failing to obey court count orders, count
of failing to cooperate in a state bar disciplinary
investigation, properly accepting compensation from one
other than the client, one count of failing
to return client's file.
So did Bill Joyner steal his home?
Not from what I saw in any of the pleadings.
I mean, it looks like he's cherry picking the facts to,
to support his narrative.
That loan was secured by a deed of trust.
So if a borrower, uh, is incapable
or fails to repay the loan,
the the lender has a security interest, a way
of getting repaid.
Mr. Johnson failed to repay that loan.
Uh, and that sort of set into motion the chain of events
that caused him to lose his home.
And he filed quite a few other lawsuits
and ultimately was deemed
to be what's called a Vexatious litigant.
A vexatious litigant is someone that files lawsuits,
you know, without having good cause to do so
and doing it over and over.
Ultimately, the court wants
to prevent someone from being able to do that.
Upon further research, I learned that
after being banned from California courts,
Kelly shifted fronts to Nevada
and attempted to shake down NFL Player Ezekiel Elliott
for $500,000.
Six, signed to Dallas Cowboys jerseys and a meet
and greet with cowboys owner Jerry Jones.
After Ezekiel knocked down Kyle while he was working
security at a festival in Vegas,
Ezekiel Elliot's legal team believes he's being
extorted right now.
A security guard is pressing charges against the
Cowboys running bag.
If I had been there, Zeke
would've been the next guy on the ground.
He wanted a half a million dollars to be quiet.
Other requests were $25,000 cash tickets to Cowboys games.
Press conference with Zeke Elliot.
I also learned that Bill Joiner offered Kelly $75,000
after the foreclosure for him to stop putting up flyers,
which he flat out refused to me, though it makes sense,
it doesn't fit his narrative.
So I decided to sit down with the one person I hadn't spoken
to yet, his ex-wife, Shannon, who agreed
to give me a candid interview about Kelly's
financial decision making.
During those so-called perfect years,
Kelly's always had a a money issue.
I mean, we never had enough.
We like to spend money and like I said, we were,
he was never good about saving, looking for the future kids.
It was just, I'll deal with it when I need to deal with it.
I'm successful, I'm good. I I can do it.
Driving a thousand dollar a month, Beamer, we had rabbits,
pot, belly pigs, several dogs, several cats.
I won't get into the numbers
'cause they're not relevant, but
47 animals.
Kelly's always had a big ego,
Double digit rabbits, double digit cats.
I gotta drive the car, I gotta be in the right address.
My next door neighbor was the vice president,
chief General counsel of Taco Bell.
Not a good feeling for financial security and, and saving
and planning, especially having a law firm that Kelly had
that cost as much as our mortgage did.
Mm-hmm. So that was hard to swallow.
But I tried to talk to Kelly throughout the years about
maybe downsizing, uh, leaving Newport.
Mm-hmm. And coming to Laguna Hills.
Rents were half the cost he got, like I said,
it was a big ego problem.
He had the staff to pay for.
He had, he had a lot to pay for.
So what can you tell us about Bill Joyner
and his loan company?
Oh gosh. You know,
I don't believe they were corrupt in any way.
Kelly fell behind on his payments, pure and simple,
and this thing happened.
But Bill Joyner, you know, I think he was just doing
what he was able to do legally.
That's all I can say about him.
After this conversation,
my mission began to shift fronts again.
I wanted to figure out how to help Kelly take accountability
for his own financial recklessness,
which plunged him into debt,
gave him in abysmal credit score,
and put him in the position
to take Bill's loan in the first place.
This wouldn't mean blaming himself entirely,
but I believe that Kelly leaning into his own role in this
situation as opposed to bills would cause a mentality shift
and allow Kelly to properly grieve without spiraling into
fantasies about payback and revenge.
But knowing how deep in his own narrative Kelly was,
I figured that any kind
of confrontation would probably backfire.
So I decided to just hold my breath
and wait in the hopes
that one day Kelly would've some kind of breakthrough.
And sure enough, he hit me up about a year later
and said he wanted to meet up urgently
to share some newfound revelations. You
Know, it's just, you know, I've come
to the realization on some things, uh, time, time is, uh,
you know, pretty good in terms of healing
and, uh, I just, I, I don't have any animosity towards him.
You know, he did what he did.
I think he will pay whatever price he needs
to pay in this world, or, or, or, or hereafter.
You know, I just, I can't, I can't focus my,
my whole life on, on trying to re regain what I had
or try to recoup from him or take it outta his flesh.
Um, you know, that revenge period, it, it,
it certainly happens, but you
can't let it be your whole life.
You know, there's a lot of evil out there
and we don't see it coming a lot of times, but it's there
and, and it, uh, can come up and hit you upside the head or,
or take away everything you had. And, um, yeah. And I was
Gonna ask you, you know, looking back at your life
before the eviction, you know,
do you think there was anything,
any behavior patterns that put you at risks?
Well, that's a good question and,
and I, I probably could have done, done things differently
so that the Bill Junior situation didn't put me
in such a bad spot.
You know, I could have sold the home,
but, you know, I was so dedicated to trying to preserve
what I had, kinda like you and your business
that you don't want to have to give it up.
So I, you know, I, um, human nature,
maybe we were a little selfish
and I've tried to, you know, work on things
and uh, you know, and try to walk a better path.
So there's things that, that I've done
and that, that you've done
and that we can do, you know, going forward.
But, uh, our family has not been together as a family unit.
And that's the one thing that I, I really regret
that we haven't been able to maintain.
And, but, you know, I love our kids.
And, and Kaylee just graduated UCLA, uh,
Kyle's up in his last year at Chico State,
and my youngest daughter's, uh, a senior at Laguna Hills.
And, uh, and, and I love him dearly,
and it just, that's, that's the toughest part is,
is keeping you know me away from our children during that,
that point in time in their lives.
Coincidentally, Kaylee hit me up shortly after
and took a much different tone.
Despite bestowing me with these newfound realizations,
Kelly was apparently drifting further
and further away from his family
and told them that he was planning to move to Arizona
to be closer to the patriot scene, which they saw
as the final step in his total estrangement.
So they wanted to give him an intervention
and present Kelly with an ultimatum commit
to staying in California and seek mental health treatment,
or they'd cut 'em off entirely.
Kyle and Kaylee also wanted
to get their youngest daughter Sydney involved,
who had only met very briefly in passing,
but now felt compelled
to share her perspective in the documentary.
How's everybody feeling?
Optimistic, I'd say,
Yeah, feeling pretty good
about like, what we're about to do.
So our whole goal today is to like, you know, just say
that we love him and stuff and like, you know,
explain like what's been going on,
What made you guys feel like now
is the time for an intervention.
Seeing that like, you know, we're approaching another
election year, that's probably gonna be one of the most
tense election years in history.
Uh, you know, just getting Kelly on the right path
before something like that starts seems like the right idea.
And I'm really glad that I reached out to you
and that we're here today because this is like the best
possible scenario that I think we could ever be in.
For sure. Thankfully, I was able to enlist the help
of a professional interventionist named Heather Hayes
who agreed to take the case on pro bono.
Hey, thanks so much for coming. I really appreciate it.
Good to see you. Yeah, good to see you too.
Absolutely. So, I'm Heather Hayes.
I'm a family consultant. I work out of Atlanta,
but I work nationally
and internationally all over helping families come together
and put together plans for healing.
How many times do you think you've done this before?
Oh, I've done probably 3000.
Needless to say. I felt like we were in good hands
For today. I think
what's most important is that the family be able
to talk about their feelings, where they're at,
and what their wishes and desires are for hope and healing.
So anyway, so I'm really honored to be here
and my goal for today is
that we just have a loving, respectful talk.
We're not, I'm gonna give some ground rules.
We are not talking about politics,
but what we are gonna talk about is we're gonna talk about
relationships and how you all can
feel more connected is what's important is
that even though we're all different, which makes us unique
and individual, is that we learn how to connect in ways,
feel closer to each other.
They love you. There is so much love for you in this room.
Um, you know, they, they miss you and they need both of you.
I mean, they need their parents.
It's different connecting with our kids when they're kids,
when they're teens, then they become adults.
And there's this shift that happens where
now we have an adult child, you know,
to parent relationship.
And it can be really actually just incredible
as incredible it is as it is.
Seeing them from tiny grow up
and go through all those stages.
Having adult children can really be magnificent too,
is they go through all of their milestones
and you know, they, you know, graduate start careers,
start families, whatever it is they wanna do,
and they need both of you.
I mean, they need their parents. What I also want is
for everyone to be honest and open and loving.
So I always ask people like, think about like,
here's your opportunity, what do you wanna say?
What's going well? What are your concerns?
Like, what's your ask from this meeting?
So I always have people take a little time and,
and write it down.
So what I'd like to do, just to kind of get started,
is like go around and let everybody kind of read, you know,
read from their heart, talk to you from their heart about
where, where they're at, what their goals are for today.
Is that okay? Sure.
Absolutely. So Dear back then,
you are my daddy who would do anything
to protect his little girl.
Smart. It's okay.
After getting evicted,
I didn't feel like we just lost the house.
I felt like I lost my daddy too.
Bad things happen in life that are out of your control.
It's inevitable. What matters is
how you respond to these things.
And when our family broke apart, you left it
to mom to get us back together.
I don't exactly blame you for that,
but I blame you for your lack
of involvement and responsibility.
Having an absent father
for the last seven years has affected me in so many ways.
I've gone through so much that you don't even know about.
I've been battling with an eating disorder
for the last three years, and when I was at my lowest,
I truly couldn't see a way out.
And I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Now.
If I can get help and try to change, you can too.
I'd like to think that I have a good understanding
of why you are the way you are.
And I'm not here to judge you for it. None of us are.
I just want you to confront the things
that are holding you back from living life to the fullest.
I'm writing this letter to remind you of how much I love you
and that you'll always be my dad no matter what.
I'm also writing it to make you aware of
how your actions have affected me as a person.
Most importantly, though,
everything we want today is just an investment in your
future, our future as a family.
That's all. Thank You. Thank you sin. Love
God.
Love you son.
Dad pops. I have so many great memories of us.
You have taught me how to do things. Good job.
Always do the right thing. Even me if it's not easy.
Good job. I'm proud to be here at one and only son.
However, at the cost of not having you present,
all I could ever want from you
is something money could never buy.
I want you to be my dad again.
I want us to rebuild what we have
and take a step in the right direction.
All of this is still possible,
and it's not too late to start or do the right thing.
I love you, dad, and we'll always.
However, we need to come together
and make the right choices to get you to a healthy place
where the dynamic of our family can be restored.
That'll be a hard road ahead of us.
However, I firmly believe
with the utmost confidence we can accomplish this task
and have you be a great father.
Again. I love you dad,
and I want to think more than you being
here for me and the family.
Again, I love you,
Dad.
I don't know who my father is anymore.
I'm scared of the man. I see.
I know you love me, but I don't feel loved by you.
You love talking about the idea of me.
You are UCLA graduate daughter that you're so proud of,
but I don't actually feel that love.
I feel like a prop. More bonus points for that.
One time you told me I was going to hell for being gay,
and the same phone call that you called
and asked me for money that happened.
Five kids, dad, not that that happened anytime soon,
like you wouldn't be fit to see them.
It is so difficult
to be mourning you while you're still alive.
We haven't been a family, and it's not
because we don't have a house, but because me, Kyle,
and Cindy don't have a father.
But most importantly, I don't know how many times I need
to say this, I want you to come back to your family.
I need my dad's love and support.
If you can't do this for your family
and everyone who loves you in the world,
then I will be the saddest girl in the world.
Andrew, I'm next up. You're
Next up.
Dear Kelly, when I first met you two
and a half years ago on April 11th, 2021,
you were carrying four flags at one time, surrounded
by a swarm of Antifa super soldiers
with blood leaking from your head.
I always figured you wondered why I followed
up after that first meeting.
And it was because of your lethal fixation
on Bill Joiner, bill
Joiner, bill Joiner, bill Joiner,
look after Bill Joiner. So
I figured that through investigating with what happened
with Bill Joiner, I could get to the bottom of what happened
to you psychologically
and hopefully reveal some universal truths about the
pipeline between deep personal loss and radical politics.
And through learning about your storied past, I was able
to sort of understand the extreme pain
that you went through after the eviction.
I mean, as a father, you have a fundamental obligation
to take care of your family.
That's like the core, almost primitive responsibility.
And I can only imagine the pain
and anguish that resulted from after that situation.
Being suddenly unable to provide for your family
and exiled from your core social group is enough
to drive anybody insane.
And when I was going through a really hard time in my
personal life, you were, you know, one
of the first people to reach out
to me. Here's what you said,
Andrew, this is Kelly.
Hey, hey, how you doing? Just want to touch base.
So I hope you're doing well. Hang in there.
It's never over till it's over, and you are not done yet.
So keep your chin up and you're gonna make
It. And as I've said for
a long time,
I will always be there for you, Andrew. And
Once again, it's not, you know, it's not what happens
because something happens to everybody.
You get knocked down at some point in time,
but people remember how you respond to adversity.
You give up and you go away, then you weren't anything.
If you are something, then you continue to stand up
and you move on and you stay strong.
And I, I see that as being, you
Remember Clipper's owner, Donald Sperling took a big hit
and had to sell the team and he was 85.
You're 26, and America loves to give people second chances.
So if not too horrendous,
you'll almost always be given a second chance.
PS I'm not preaching and I'm a flawed human being,
but I'm trying hard.
Love you, man. Hang in there and I'll talk to you soon.
Take care. We're gonna make it outta you.
And in the same way that you encouraged me to step up
to the plate when I was at my lowest, I want
to encourage you to do the same and really step up
because your kids love you and they're pretty young.
And I remember when you first saw me, you said to me,
bill Joiner destroyed my family.
He destroyed my family, destroyed my 25 year business.
He didn't, everybody's still here.
God always gives people circumstances
and I think this is yours.
Appreciate that. Yeah, man. Thank you Andrew.
I went through a lot. We all went through a lot.
Yes, I've seen what's impacted me.
I've been through a lot of pain suffering. Yes.
And so I've been trying to get myself in a position so
that I can go forward.
And at the same time, there's been things going on
throughout our country that have, you know,
obviously inundated a lot of us.
And, and, and my thought is,
unless I could do things to help that situation
after our house was taken, when our country taken,
if our country's taken, it's all over for everybody.
And that's been my focus
because if we don't have a country to live in, then we, it,
it's over our, our freedoms, our rights
and everything that, that we, you know, have,
have believed in since the formation of our country is gone.
And, uh, you know, I'm a proud person
and you know, I haven't had any type of, of counseling
or advice or assistance or anything.
I'm just, um, I'm sorry for causing the pain that I have.
I had, you know, I it I've been walking in my shoes
and it's been a tough road
and, uh, I'm, I'm sorry I haven't been there for you
as much as I could have been.
I just, it's been so difficult for me
and I just need to be more understanding
of the impact on you also.
And I, and I haven't been, and I apologize for that.
So there's a program in Pennsylvania, it's a program
that does a lot of work with families,
but it does a lot of work with individuals.
Um, a big part of what they'll ask you to do
and what take a look at is to stop smoking weed
for a little while and then also take a look at what is it
underneath there that the weed's covering up.
And so this is an opportunity that would help you get,
you know, started in that, you know, nothing's a quick fix.
Right. But there's certainly
jumpstarts that can be really helpful.
Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. Well, I, I'd be, I'd definitely be, um, you know,
interested and receptive, uh, to that.
That makes me really happy.
Ex-wife say,
oh my God, we, yeah,
We don't have a lot of time, but Jelly, I'm really proud
of you for taking a step.
We just want you to build a solid foundation,
man, and get the help you need, need
To, it's, I love you so much.
Love you babe. Yeah,
I've been here. Was was Saddam
here?
Yeah, Saddam was here. Yeah.
Okay. Bye. You guys love you. I'll keep you posted.
I'll talk to you soon. Bye Kyle. Love you buddy. Love
You too. I'm proud of you.
You too. See you, man.
Love you babe. Love you. Okay, love you. Love
You. Sounds good. So
hot. All right.
Do you sy love you, babe. Get well.
You, I'm so Proud of you. Thank you, babe.
Okay, take care. Okay, thank you. Bye-bye.
God bless America. Take care. Bye. You guys love you.
And just like that we were off headed straight
to LAX. They
Need dad to be there, you know, to, to support and,
and be a bigger part of their life.
And I'm prepared to, you know, take steps to do that.
I, I look to, to learn about myself,
learn about our situation,
learn about putting ourselves in a, in a better situation
and, and what I can do to help, uh, you know, help do that.
Hey, Karen, man, thank you. I love you, man.
Appreciate everything man. No problem.
Good luck out there, man. Stay on track. I appreciate it.
Thank you very much. Out to Philly,
LAX God bless America, Kelly g Patriot.
I didn't study, I'm just Kidding. Kyle never studies,
You guys talk to him a lot when he was in there, right?
Yeah. How would you describe what that,
that your correspondence with
Him? I would say
I had like one of the strongest relationships
with my father that I ever had.
You know, we talked, like every day he'd call me,
I'd hear daily updates, you know,
he was taking his vitamins.
They had unlimited chocolate milk. He was a happy guy.
He was, I mean, come on, you know, he, he met some, um,
rainbow people, he told me.
So, you know, it was good for our relationship.
I, I do think it was,
but I mean, when he was there,
it really seemed like he was progressing.
He was having a lot of realizations
and such about so many different things.
The first time, maybe a week
or so in, he admitted to me that he had an addiction.
And I'm, I'm, I'm outta whack.
I mean, addiction is a disease.
Addiction's a disease, and I had a disease.
So I'm, I'm trying to, you know, get my disease treated
Just crazy. Right.
Have you ever heard him say that before in his life?
Also? I talked to Kelly a couple times during treatment
and it really seemed like he was changing for the better.
I, I saw a, uh, psychologist two days ago,
and you know, what I learned there was that I dealt
with about four major life events within about three
or four years, which, you know, f****d up my head.
And I, you know, I didn't even realize I had nobody to talk
to, never talked to anybody,
never got any treatment or anything. So what
Do you think those four major life events were? My
Mom passing away, losing my home,
losing my business, losing my family.
When it came to genuine spiritual breakthroughs,
Kelly took things to a whole new level
that I couldn't believe I
Need to do. I need to go
back and I need
to forgive Bill Joy on apologize to him for not taking care
of my financial obligations
and put me in that position for him to do that to me
and my family kind of thing.
You know, I created it. I can't, you know,
I can't put my finger fingers in everybody else forever.
He said, I need to apologize to Bill Joiner. Oh yeah.
He was saying stuff that I was like, what the f**k is happen
Happening? But then it kind of,
uh, morphed into, oh,
I have an addiction and so all
of my actions are not my fault.
Mm-hmm. That's kind of what it turned into.
And then it turned into, I can only be saved
by God and everything I've done.
It was the addiction, not me, it was the weed.
I didn't make those decisions.
You know, a lot of people go to rehab
and usually try to find that higher power within themselves.
Mm-hmm. And I think
that would've been a lot more useful if my dad more found it
within himself and like took, you know, accountability
for all of his actions instead
of blaming it on all external factors.
Accountability is like the biggest thing. Like yeah.
To like wipe the slate clean and like move forward.
There's been no ability to like move forward.
He still is not at terms of himself
to like accept what's happened, but
There was still, there was a lot
of optimism also when he came back.
But then it kind of started going away when we were pushing,
oh dad, like, get out of your s****y living situation
where you're just stuck. The
Dow on my closet collapsed about two weeks
Ago And let us put you in a halfway house, you know,
dad, why don't you get a job?
Turns into, why don't you want me to be happy?
Like, you just want me to rot at a desk all day.
You must f*****g hate me.
Do you want me to go sit by the desk somewhere?
That's not what I'm saying. Waste my f*****g time.
That's not wasting your time. You do this every time.
I've partied a lot time I've stopped
doing that could be a better time.
It's not just a party. The it's not what you're doing.
It's how much time you put in that.
And how much time do you put into this? That's the problem.
What do wanna say? I'm sorry, I f*****g said it.
Do you wanna f*****g happy fought a f*****g sword.
No, I don't fought a f*****g sword. Are you happy? No.
It's his pride, truly.
Like he, he's really honest about it.
He's like, I will never work a dust job.
And we're not even saying that he should do that.
We also offered to put him up in a sober living facility
on the company dying, which he flat out refused still
employment and housing aside.
We hope that Kelly would step up
and become a more active father as he once was,
which he had a perfect chance to do.
About four months after he got out, unfortunately,
another crisis struck the family, Sidney,
his youngest daughter's eating disorder worsened,
causing her to be hospitalized in an inpatient facility.
Um, I spearheaded, I called the treatment places,
got my sister into treatment, got the insurance going,
and eventually like my mom
started doing more things for that.
But I spearheaded that. Kay, you put
That s**t on her Back. Yeah, I did. And
I'm gonna try to be there as much as I can
for my youngest daughter who's, uh,
gonna be a senior next year.
Sydnee had, um, something for treatment
that parents should go to and my dad said he couldn't go.
And I was like, why not? Oh, I'm gonna a Charlie Kirk event.
Ah, who the f**k is that?
Kamala Harris is a war monger who wants to send hundreds
of billions of dollars to Ukraine while our own border
remains wide open and 320,000 kids are missing in sex
trafficking because of your
preferred candidate, Kamala Harris.
I look 'em up. Turning Point America Far right.
Think tank discussion at UCLA's campus.
So I invited myself, me, I went to Charlie Kirk
and I, let's just say I was not the typical
Crowd member.
It's good to be having these conversations.
Okay, no good then. Like my dad is a far right Q Anon
conspiracy theorist, but here I f*****g am.
So yeah,
I I maybe you can learn something from him. So
Yeah, And then I just started,
I don't know, I just started getting real.
I was like, you know what? Like
My dad doesn't, he to spends all of his time on Q anon
and everything doesn't support his family.
Like, hasn't had a job since he was just fared as a lawyer.
So it's pretty ironic being with him
and listening to you to be honest.
Um, but yeah, I mean, I love you dad.
That's why we had an intervention,
but it's, it's really tough.
And I know these are like some
of the biggest things in my life, but I appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
And that was that I went back to my seat.
My dad completely ignored me.
I mean, I was just speaking about my true lived experience
and how it has been. Yeah.
Shortly after this confrontation, I wanted to meet
with Kelly one last time
to give him a final word in this documentary.
And predictably, he was in the one place
that his family was begging him not
to go Arizona at a different Charlie Kirk event.
Apparently working for a patriot news company called Liberty
Report as the star of a show,
Turning Point USA,
the last time we saw them was out at
UCLA with my daughter Kaylee.
Her whole Rainbow Coalition of beliefs is really contrary
to where I'm at.
And I expressly told her, if you get married sometime
and it's to a girl, I'm not gonna be there for the wedding.
'cause uh, as a Christian, I can't support that.
I'm not gonna support that. And
It's because we all wanna save America.
That's right. You all love this country
and we are going to save it. Hey,
How you doing man?
I didn't know you were here. How you doing?
Kelly's a man. He does great work.
He's a patriot and we, he loves America.
Charlie, gimme one second. No problem. No problem.
Do it, do it. Go ahead. Sorry about that. Sorry.
So UCLA recently my daughter was one said I'm a
liberal, my dad's Q anon. Yeah.
I thought I I I handled that gently.
You did, you did well, you did well.
I said maybe you could learn from you
learned something you did.
And then you said about family
and you know, listen to your parents and God bless you.
Appreciate it. Thanks Charlie. Keep
Praying for Her. Oh,
I know. And when she comes back,
prodigal
son. Absolutely none of it happened before.
Remember. Absolutely. Thank you Charlie.
Good seeing you again.
Thank you. He's a good man.
So he remembered, he remembered specifically
my daughter saying she's liberal
and what he said to her in terms
of maybe you'll learn something.
So he's a good man and he's tall. He's tall,
All said and done. Kelly
really didn't change that much, at least in the way
that his family wanted him to.
But it wasn't all for nothing on the bright side.
Do you still care about Bill Joyner?
Um, No. Which is good for Bill, I guess.
But going back to my original thesis about the collapse
of core needs causing
radicalization, I do still believe that.
And I do still believe that it was that collapse
that were the primary drivers in Kelly's downfall.
But after an intervention
and a free 30 day treatment,
he had every chance in the world
to turn the page and become a new person,
Look for the truth and keep the faith, bro.
And he actively made the choice not to.
But I'd be remiss
to say at this particular semi conclusive juncture
that I'm a bit disappointed in
how things panned out after the intervention.
I wish that Kelly knew how much we cared about him
and took things more seriously.
I wish the recovery center that he went
to didn't emphasize cannabis addiction so heavily.
I wish that, uh, bill Joyner
would've responded to my emails.
I wish I was filming Uncle Pill on a wide screen instead
of vertical when I met him at the skate park.
But that's the nature of life.
But I guess, you know, on the bright side,
Kelly is only 62 years old
and will probably live for decades longer.
I hope a lot can change between now and then.
I mean, a lot's changed in the past four years, so I'd like
to think that maybe we planted the seeds
for a future psychic shift in Kelly.
But I'm not sure I'll wrap this documentary up
with the same thoughts and uncertainty that I had
after I left the tunnels in Las Vegas
or the streets of SF where I attempted,
despite my best efforts
to help people suffering from addiction
and homelessness, only to be met with disappointing results,
which is that people can change if they want to,
and no amount of external pressure can actually make
somebody turn the page until
they're ready and want to do it.
Hey, look, let me give y'all some real m***********g game.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Change is hard and change hurts for real, for real.
If Kelly wanted to change, he would change.
It just is what it is.
Like it's gotta be in them, not on them.
And Kaylee, like Kyle and Kaylee, he f***s with y'all.
Like, I don't even know where my dad is, to be honest.
You feel me? So like, you gotta, you know,
you just gotta let m***********s be m***********s.
And Kelly, Jay Patriot, he's gonna mail it out soon.
Trump's in office now, bud. We're gonna see where this goes.
And then, you know, we got four years of this.
And if nothing changes in four years, man, Kelly,
you did it all for nothing, bud.
You think what I'm saying? Like that kind of sucks, man.
Hey, nobody knows about the real Chico, bro.
You had to been there, you had to gone through it.
You know what I mean? Like you could read a book
and s**t, like you could read a book about Vietnam,
but you don't know about Vietnam
until you're on the m***********g shores.
Until you can see Vietnam,
you don't know about the real f*****g Chico man,
and it ain't coming back ever again.
But hey, f**k Bill Joiner.