1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,612 --> 00:00:05,570 ♪ "Aw, I don't want to...you, you can't even sing!" ♪ 3 00:00:05,657 --> 00:00:07,181 ODB: This Ol' Dirty Bastard, man, you know what I'm saying? 4 00:00:07,268 --> 00:00:09,052 I ain't doin' no... You know what I'm saying? 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:09,139 --> 00:00:10,749 Everything that I just spoke on this is some real... 7 00:00:10,836 --> 00:00:12,664 He said, "I'm Ol' Dirty Bastard." He's telling you 8 00:00:12,751 --> 00:00:13,839 who the...he is from the door. 9 00:00:13,970 --> 00:00:15,928 ♪ I'm the one-man army, Ason 10 00:00:15,972 --> 00:00:17,756 ♪ I never been tooken out, I keep MC's looking out ♪ 11 00:00:17,843 --> 00:00:19,932 ♪ I'll drop signs like Cosby dropping babies ♪ 12 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:22,631 He is in the great tradition of Black entertainers 13 00:00:22,761 --> 00:00:25,851 like Rudy Ray Moore, Redd Foxx, Richard Pryor, 14 00:00:25,938 --> 00:00:28,767 and rappers like Biz Markie, Flava Flav, 15 00:00:28,854 --> 00:00:31,683 Fernando Jr.: ODB is a founding member of the Wu-Tang Clan. 16 00:00:31,770 --> 00:00:33,468 The rest of the clan kind of looked at him 17 00:00:33,598 --> 00:00:35,470 in a way for leadership. 18 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,863 Ghostface: Out of the whole group, he was the soul. 19 00:00:37,994 --> 00:00:40,866 And when he left, it was a big loss for us. 20 00:00:40,997 --> 00:00:43,130 Big, big, big, big, big, big, big. 21 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:45,262 [ Shouting ] 22 00:00:45,306 --> 00:00:48,222 Dirty was the energy to everything we got started. 23 00:00:48,309 --> 00:00:52,226 ♪ Me and Mariah go back like babies with pacifiers ♪ 24 00:00:52,356 --> 00:00:54,097 ♪ Old Dirt Dog's no liar 25 00:00:54,184 --> 00:00:56,186 Carey: Hearing him, it was a griminess. 26 00:00:56,317 --> 00:00:59,276 And the fact that he was singing the way he was singing, 27 00:00:59,363 --> 00:01:02,758 ODB was the natural person -- the best person. 28 00:01:02,845 --> 00:01:04,455 It's a fun record. 29 00:01:04,586 --> 00:01:06,762 Him being a part of my life changed my life. 30 00:01:06,892 --> 00:01:09,460 He was festive. He was fun. 31 00:01:09,547 --> 00:01:11,332 Dash: He was the crazy one. He was the wild card, 32 00:01:11,462 --> 00:01:12,855 but with a lot of swag. 33 00:01:12,942 --> 00:01:14,422 He was the one that gave no... 34 00:01:14,509 --> 00:01:16,293 We would sit down and we'd be like, 35 00:01:16,380 --> 00:01:17,947 "Yo, you changed." He'd be like, "You...right." 36 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:19,426 He would admit it. He'd go, "Yeah, 37 00:01:19,557 --> 00:01:21,298 you...right I'm changing." 38 00:01:21,385 --> 00:01:26,173 Suddenly he had all this newfound money, fame, attention, 39 00:01:26,303 --> 00:01:29,741 and the media doesn't give you time to adjust. 40 00:01:29,828 --> 00:01:31,613 Reporter: Rapper ODB is in the news again, 41 00:01:31,743 --> 00:01:33,484 this time facing shoplifting charges. 42 00:01:33,658 --> 00:01:36,008 Russell Jones, known to rap fans as ODB, 43 00:01:36,051 --> 00:01:37,445 was arraigned today in Los Angeles. 44 00:01:37,575 --> 00:01:39,142 Ross: We get to live vicariously 45 00:01:39,229 --> 00:01:42,624 by watching these celebrities behave badly. 46 00:01:42,711 --> 00:01:45,366 Slowly but surely, he became somebody else, 47 00:01:45,496 --> 00:01:47,150 and he started living 48 00:01:47,237 --> 00:01:49,631 out Ol' Dirty Bastard more than Unique Ason. 49 00:01:49,674 --> 00:01:53,243 If y'all see Dirty on stage too long, that...drunk. 50 00:01:53,374 --> 00:01:55,811 We all watch a car crash, right? I don't think 51 00:01:55,941 --> 00:01:57,378 you can blame society. 52 00:01:57,508 --> 00:01:59,162 You can blame the media, 53 00:01:59,293 --> 00:02:02,818 I think, for perpetually promoting these images. 54 00:02:02,992 --> 00:02:05,212 Funeral services are planned for Thursday 55 00:02:05,342 --> 00:02:09,868 for Russell Jones, the hip-hop artist known as ODB. 56 00:02:09,955 --> 00:02:11,392 ODB: Ol' Dirty Bastard, that's just, like, a job. 57 00:02:11,478 --> 00:02:13,263 You know what I mean? 58 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:16,658 My children, they know me as "Dad." 59 00:02:16,788 --> 00:02:18,355 Fernando Jr: Russell Jones, the man, 60 00:02:18,529 --> 00:02:21,053 was someone who really loved his kids and his wife. 61 00:02:21,141 --> 00:02:23,491 Icelene: "Daddy, Daddy." That's it. 62 00:02:23,578 --> 00:02:25,579 That's all we called him. I didn't call him Unique. 63 00:02:25,710 --> 00:02:27,538 I didn't call him Ason. I didn't call him Russell. 64 00:02:27,669 --> 00:02:29,714 I didn't call him ODB, Ol' Dirty Bastard. 65 00:02:29,801 --> 00:02:31,890 It was just "daddy" to me. 66 00:02:31,977 --> 00:02:34,676 Icelene: What's up? 67 00:02:34,763 --> 00:02:39,550 Icelene: My husband, Unique, he gave me a camcorder. 68 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,900 Once I got it in my hands, it was a wrap. 69 00:02:42,031 --> 00:02:43,337 You can't see anything? 70 00:02:43,380 --> 00:02:45,252 Icelene: Yeah, I can see you now. 71 00:02:45,382 --> 00:02:48,429 I was everywhere with that camcorder, recording everything. 72 00:02:48,516 --> 00:02:50,387 [ Children cheering, laughing ] 73 00:02:50,518 --> 00:02:54,043 Every day is ODB, ODB, ODB, Russell Jones, 74 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:56,741 Ol' Dirty Bastard, is reliving his life 75 00:02:56,872 --> 00:02:59,962 and his death over and over and over again. 76 00:03:08,623 --> 00:03:11,974 ♪ 77 00:03:12,148 --> 00:03:13,497 [ Crowd shouting ] 78 00:03:13,584 --> 00:03:23,072 ♪♪ 79 00:03:23,203 --> 00:03:32,821 ♪ 80 00:03:32,908 --> 00:03:34,692 Man: I wanna know where you from, you know what I'm saying? 81 00:03:34,823 --> 00:03:37,652 Are you from New York? Are you from...? 82 00:03:37,781 --> 00:03:39,741 ODB: I'm from Brooklyn, man. 83 00:03:39,871 --> 00:03:41,786 The only way you can flex in Brooklyn 84 00:03:41,873 --> 00:03:43,832 is going to the zoo, 85 00:03:43,962 --> 00:03:47,227 because you can't make no money without going to Brooklyn Zoo. 86 00:03:47,357 --> 00:03:51,013 You can't sell no drugs without going to Brooklyn Zoo. 87 00:03:51,143 --> 00:03:53,494 You can't do nothin'. You can't nothin'... 88 00:03:53,581 --> 00:03:55,626 Nothin'! 89 00:03:55,713 --> 00:03:58,977 [ Siren wailing ] 90 00:03:59,151 --> 00:04:03,417 Fernando Jr.: In the late '60s, when Russell Jones was born, 91 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:07,203 it was a tough time for Black America then. 92 00:04:07,334 --> 00:04:11,338 At the same time that blacks were fighting for 93 00:04:11,381 --> 00:04:15,429 and somewhat securing rights, they were being killed. 94 00:04:15,559 --> 00:04:19,954 Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Medgar Evers -- 95 00:04:20,042 --> 00:04:23,785 all three of those men were assassinated. 96 00:04:23,872 --> 00:04:27,571 It was just a very messy, chaotic time. 97 00:04:27,658 --> 00:04:30,226 Ramsey: We were living in the Brownsville projects. 98 00:04:30,357 --> 00:04:33,490 A lot of gangs infiltrated different blocks. 99 00:04:33,621 --> 00:04:36,232 You were always faced with getting mugged, 100 00:04:36,363 --> 00:04:38,582 coming from school, you know, getting your pockets picked. 101 00:04:38,713 --> 00:04:41,629 It got so bad that there was a murder in our building. 102 00:04:41,716 --> 00:04:43,457 After that had happened, my father said, 103 00:04:43,544 --> 00:04:44,806 "You know, we're going to move to a better place." 104 00:04:44,893 --> 00:04:46,982 And we ended up moving to Linden Plaza. 105 00:04:47,112 --> 00:04:49,245 ♪ 106 00:04:49,376 --> 00:04:52,596 Moving to Linden Plaza had a whole different energy. 107 00:04:52,683 --> 00:04:55,469 It was like a fantasy for us. 108 00:04:55,599 --> 00:04:58,341 It was idyllic, very quiet, beautiful. 109 00:04:58,472 --> 00:05:00,822 It was like heaven. 110 00:05:00,909 --> 00:05:03,825 We got to bicycle and go to the pools 111 00:05:03,912 --> 00:05:06,306 that were in different parts of the complex. 112 00:05:06,436 --> 00:05:08,873 Icelene: Linden Plaza is a little bit more uppity-up 113 00:05:08,917 --> 00:05:10,962 than the surrounding projects around us. 114 00:05:11,049 --> 00:05:12,877 We lived up on a mountain is -- 115 00:05:13,008 --> 00:05:16,272 that's what they called Plaza, a mountain. 116 00:05:32,244 --> 00:05:33,420 [ Laughs ] 117 00:05:34,899 --> 00:05:36,597 Haskins: Their mom wore wigs back then, 118 00:05:36,727 --> 00:05:40,209 so we used to dress up in her wigs and her clothes. 119 00:05:40,252 --> 00:05:43,734 She always had beautiful, beautiful clothes. 120 00:05:43,865 --> 00:05:45,082 Jenkins: Everybody was at the Jones' house. 121 00:05:45,214 --> 00:05:46,824 That was the spot. 122 00:05:46,911 --> 00:05:50,088 I'd be there more than I'd be at my house. 123 00:05:50,219 --> 00:05:51,742 RZA: You know, we grew up together 124 00:05:51,873 --> 00:05:53,091 from the age of six, you know what I mean? 125 00:05:53,222 --> 00:05:54,876 Running around. He's my blood cousin. 126 00:05:54,963 --> 00:05:57,748 His house was the house I would go and hear music at 127 00:05:57,835 --> 00:05:59,750 you know what I mean? His family had the biggest 128 00:05:59,881 --> 00:06:01,796 record collection, you know what I mean? 129 00:06:01,883 --> 00:06:03,580 So I would go over to his house, and hear all these different 130 00:06:03,624 --> 00:06:06,453 musics, and I think those -- that that influenced me, 131 00:06:06,583 --> 00:06:08,455 you know what I mean? 132 00:06:08,498 --> 00:06:10,326 Ramsey: My cousin, RZA, would come over to our house, 133 00:06:10,457 --> 00:06:13,111 stay over there for like a couple of days. 134 00:06:13,242 --> 00:06:15,113 It was -- It was a place of solace. 135 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,332 ♪♪ 136 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:19,770 ODB: My cousin and GZA comes and brings me outside 137 00:06:19,857 --> 00:06:21,511 to a block party. 138 00:06:21,685 --> 00:06:23,687 And when I get to the block party, 139 00:06:23,774 --> 00:06:26,777 the DJ throws on a couple of break beats. 140 00:06:26,908 --> 00:06:28,344 You know what I mean? He started rapping 141 00:06:28,518 --> 00:06:31,869 like a ♪ dip-dip-dah, so-socialize ♪ 142 00:06:31,956 --> 00:06:34,784 And, yo, I was blown out my mind. 143 00:06:34,872 --> 00:06:37,005 Hip-hop was so new and fresh for us. 144 00:06:37,135 --> 00:06:40,661 We got into the artists like Fat Boys and Kurtis Blow. 145 00:06:40,704 --> 00:06:45,405 Jimmy Spicer lived in Linden Plaza in Building Five. 146 00:06:45,534 --> 00:06:48,930 We started making our own tapes. I had my father buy me a mixer 147 00:06:49,104 --> 00:06:52,455 and my two turntables and Casio keyboard, drum machine. 148 00:06:52,542 --> 00:06:55,110 I remember we were all in the room -- it was RZA, 149 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,287 GZA, my brother, Russell, and I. 150 00:06:58,374 --> 00:06:59,941 My brother was watching on the sidelines 151 00:07:00,071 --> 00:07:02,204 and seeing how exciting it was. 152 00:07:02,291 --> 00:07:06,034 Russell wanted to rap, and RZA influenced Russell. 153 00:07:06,121 --> 00:07:08,079 RZA: He was my student, first of all, you know what I mean? 154 00:07:08,123 --> 00:07:11,169 but he was one of the most powerful students that I've had. 155 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:14,999 The first time I met ODB was, you know, 156 00:07:15,130 --> 00:07:18,263 back in my neighborhood, Park Hill projects. 157 00:07:18,394 --> 00:07:21,223 I had to be about 12 years old. 158 00:07:21,353 --> 00:07:23,225 He was just a hip-hop head. 159 00:07:23,355 --> 00:07:26,707 You know, I seen it in him. 160 00:07:26,794 --> 00:07:30,537 Rap helped him, like, open up, and his personality 161 00:07:30,624 --> 00:07:34,366 started to come out more. He was becoming more outgoing. 162 00:07:34,409 --> 00:07:36,064 He was always seemingly getting into trouble. 163 00:07:36,107 --> 00:07:43,506 ♪ 164 00:07:43,637 --> 00:07:45,290 Raekwon: Dirty was a professional thief, 165 00:07:45,377 --> 00:07:46,422 him and me. 166 00:07:48,903 --> 00:07:52,689 He would go to Macy's and he would boost clothes. 167 00:07:52,776 --> 00:07:55,649 Raekwon: He always would get in the...and it was like 168 00:07:55,779 --> 00:07:58,478 we was doing it for fun because we knew how to do it. 169 00:07:58,608 --> 00:08:00,131 Ramsey: He would get caught. The security would call 170 00:08:00,262 --> 00:08:02,743 our house and says, "Uh, can we speak to Mr. Jones?" 171 00:08:02,786 --> 00:08:04,919 And they would tell him, "Hey, we got your son down here. 172 00:08:05,049 --> 00:08:07,574 He's been caught shoplifting." My father says, "Keep him," 173 00:08:07,661 --> 00:08:09,967 and hang up the phone. [ Laughs ] 174 00:08:10,098 --> 00:08:12,622 There was discipline. My father just got tired of it. 175 00:08:12,753 --> 00:08:15,756 I mean, he would -- he would actually confront my brother, 176 00:08:15,843 --> 00:08:17,932 and he was tired of going down to those department stores 177 00:08:18,019 --> 00:08:19,760 and getting my brother out. 178 00:08:19,847 --> 00:08:21,631 To me, you know what I'm saying, I deal with the science 179 00:08:21,762 --> 00:08:24,068 of the Black man is God, you know what I'm saying? 180 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:27,289 So -- So it goes even deeper now. 181 00:08:27,419 --> 00:08:29,247 Oh, man, I can't really get deep into that right now. 182 00:08:29,334 --> 00:08:31,336 Reporter: I understand, though. You have your religion and... 183 00:08:31,423 --> 00:08:32,903 No, it's not a religion. It's a way of life. 184 00:08:32,990 --> 00:08:34,775 It's my culture. 185 00:08:34,861 --> 00:08:36,558 Ramsey: My cousin, Popa Wu, 186 00:08:36,690 --> 00:08:39,475 he was the one that indoctrinated Russell 187 00:08:39,606 --> 00:08:41,346 into the 5% Nation. 188 00:08:41,433 --> 00:08:45,263 Popa Wu was the one that instilled it and enforced it 189 00:08:45,394 --> 00:08:47,352 in all of them. 190 00:08:47,483 --> 00:08:49,703 It helped to instill discipline, confidence in themselves, 191 00:08:49,790 --> 00:08:52,662 because at that time, Black men needed that. 192 00:08:52,749 --> 00:08:57,493 The 5% Nation, the Nation of Gods and Earth, started in 1963 193 00:08:57,537 --> 00:09:00,975 when Clarence 13X actually left Mosque Number Seven in Harlem, 194 00:09:01,105 --> 00:09:03,412 when Malcolm X was the minister. 195 00:09:03,499 --> 00:09:06,676 Fernando Jr.: One of the main tenants of the Five Percenters, 196 00:09:06,850 --> 00:09:11,115 was that the original man who was the Black man 197 00:09:11,246 --> 00:09:14,379 was God in the flesh. 198 00:09:14,554 --> 00:09:17,818 That was a pretty radical thought at the time -- 199 00:09:17,861 --> 00:09:20,211 to believe the Black man is God. 200 00:09:20,342 --> 00:09:21,822 Everlasting: Of course, there's mysteries and things 201 00:09:21,952 --> 00:09:23,388 that might be great that we don't know about, 202 00:09:23,475 --> 00:09:24,564 but as far as things that can be seen, 203 00:09:24,694 --> 00:09:27,175 heard, and explained, it's me. 204 00:09:27,349 --> 00:09:29,656 Life: Basically what it is is self-empowerment. 205 00:09:29,743 --> 00:09:33,137 We don't believe in anything up above, anything down below. 206 00:09:33,268 --> 00:09:36,271 Everything that we have we got to do for ourself. 207 00:09:36,401 --> 00:09:38,665 Russell changed his name to Ason Unique. 208 00:09:38,752 --> 00:09:40,710 Fernando Jr.: Ason Unique -- 209 00:09:40,797 --> 00:09:44,279 that was his righteous name. It was his Five Percenter name. 210 00:09:44,409 --> 00:09:46,020 You don't just take a Five Percenter name. 211 00:09:46,107 --> 00:09:47,195 You got to earn it. 212 00:09:49,414 --> 00:09:51,721 You have to memorize these word for word -- 213 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:57,727 So there's a lot of discipline involved. 214 00:09:57,858 --> 00:10:00,208 Ramsey: He was mischievous, but when he was Unique, 215 00:10:00,295 --> 00:10:02,210 he was much more scholarly. 216 00:10:02,297 --> 00:10:05,822 He was all about learning the lessons, the mathematics. 217 00:10:05,953 --> 00:10:07,650 So it was like two different personalities. 218 00:10:07,781 --> 00:10:09,870 ♪ 219 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,177 Icelene: He was an exciting person to know. 220 00:10:13,308 --> 00:10:16,311 He was lots of fun, lots of love. 221 00:10:16,398 --> 00:10:18,487 I know I seen it all. And that was a blessing, 222 00:10:18,574 --> 00:10:21,795 to experience all of him. 223 00:10:21,882 --> 00:10:24,841 Elnora: We gave her a big 16th birthday party. 224 00:10:24,928 --> 00:10:26,756 I guess he met him there -- 225 00:10:26,887 --> 00:10:29,846 skinny guy with a broken tooth. 226 00:10:29,933 --> 00:10:34,764 And I'm looking at him. I'm like, "Oh, my God, trouble." 227 00:10:34,895 --> 00:10:36,810 [ Laughs ] Yeah, yeah. 228 00:10:36,940 --> 00:10:39,726 I closed the door in his face because he says that, 229 00:10:39,813 --> 00:10:41,858 you know, I invited him there, and I know I didn't. 230 00:10:41,945 --> 00:10:44,774 Two weeks later, my friend had a birthday party, 231 00:10:44,818 --> 00:10:47,124 another Sweet 16, and he came in there 232 00:10:47,211 --> 00:10:48,604 and I was hiding from him, because I'm like, 233 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:50,127 "Oh, my gosh, that's the guy 234 00:10:50,258 --> 00:10:51,825 that I slammed the door in his face." 235 00:10:51,955 --> 00:10:53,653 But then he came and found me, 236 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:56,481 and we started dancing and stuff like that. 237 00:10:56,525 --> 00:10:58,570 He just told me his name, Unique. 238 00:10:58,614 --> 00:11:01,573 He kept coming around and wanting to see me 239 00:11:01,704 --> 00:11:04,185 and nobody never showed interest like that. 240 00:11:04,315 --> 00:11:07,014 ♪ 241 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:09,930 Me and your father used to come here all the time. 242 00:11:10,017 --> 00:11:12,323 This was like the times when we were falling in love. 243 00:11:12,410 --> 00:11:15,196 What was the breakdance? They was doing "Ason," 244 00:11:15,326 --> 00:11:17,111 like this, going all down to the ground. 245 00:11:17,241 --> 00:11:18,808 That's the Ason? Yeah. 246 00:11:18,895 --> 00:11:20,157 He used to be dancing. I ain't doing it right, 247 00:11:20,244 --> 00:11:21,898 but he used to be getting down. 248 00:11:21,985 --> 00:11:23,639 And everybody would just be trying to do the Ason. 249 00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:25,510 Icelene: He started talking to me about the sun, moon, 250 00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:29,993 and stars, and he told me I was going to have a different name. 251 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,126 He said, "Your name can't be Tracy anymore. 252 00:11:32,213 --> 00:11:34,781 Your name is gonna be Shaquita... in the name of Allah." 253 00:11:34,868 --> 00:11:37,131 And I'm like, "Um... [ Laughs ] 254 00:11:37,218 --> 00:11:38,872 What are you talking about?" 255 00:11:39,046 --> 00:11:41,788 Her name was Icelene Pernell. 256 00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:47,663 To me, I didn't really care for him, but she loved him, so. 257 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:49,709 I'm not going to say too much about him, eh. 258 00:11:49,796 --> 00:11:54,452 ♪♪ 259 00:11:54,539 --> 00:11:59,022 One dream we always spoke about is me and him making it big. 260 00:11:59,153 --> 00:12:01,329 And we always knew, after we moved from Linden Plaza, 261 00:12:01,503 --> 00:12:03,287 never to move into a project. 262 00:12:03,418 --> 00:12:05,159 You sort of get stuck into the projects 263 00:12:05,289 --> 00:12:08,205 and within a square, you got your shopping center, 264 00:12:08,379 --> 00:12:09,424 you got your check-cashing place, 265 00:12:09,511 --> 00:12:11,034 you got your liquor store. 266 00:12:11,121 --> 00:12:13,428 You don't need to go outside. 267 00:12:13,558 --> 00:12:16,344 We wanted to get out of that. 268 00:12:16,474 --> 00:12:18,520 And he was always talking about his music career 269 00:12:18,650 --> 00:12:20,261 and what he wanted to do. 270 00:12:20,348 --> 00:12:21,784 I believed that he was going to make it one day 271 00:12:21,871 --> 00:12:23,743 because I know he had something special. 272 00:12:23,917 --> 00:12:26,920 ♪ 273 00:12:33,578 --> 00:12:34,884 A little. Come on, baby. Pump it up. 274 00:12:35,015 --> 00:12:36,407 'Cause we got something live for you now. 275 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:37,713 Come on! Yo, yo, I got it. 276 00:12:37,844 --> 00:12:39,628 Give it to me! Give it to me! 277 00:12:39,802 --> 00:12:42,109 ♪ This is a lesson that makes you feel fine ♪ 278 00:12:42,152 --> 00:12:45,112 ♪ Kinda ease your nerves and relax your mind ♪ 279 00:12:45,242 --> 00:12:48,593 ♪ I said don't try to use no hypnotic spell, she said ♪ 280 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:51,858 ♪ "Be my assistant, I'd show rather tell" ♪ 281 00:12:51,988 --> 00:12:54,425 Icelene: He was battling from when I first met him. 282 00:12:54,556 --> 00:12:56,950 He would go and battle people, and he would always win. 283 00:12:57,037 --> 00:12:59,691 The GZA taught the RZA. The RZA taught me. 284 00:12:59,735 --> 00:13:01,781 And, you know, we've been doing this for years. 285 00:13:11,138 --> 00:13:12,530 Woman: Okay. 286 00:13:12,661 --> 00:13:15,795 Around 1981, RZA, GZA, and my brother 287 00:13:15,969 --> 00:13:18,406 put together a crew called the All In Together Now crew. 288 00:13:18,536 --> 00:13:21,409 GZA: All In Together Now crew. What? What? Who? 289 00:13:21,496 --> 00:13:25,369 Used to run around, battle, do rap things up, represent. 290 00:13:25,543 --> 00:13:27,154 And it all started from there. 291 00:13:27,284 --> 00:13:28,938 He used to go out all the time and rap 292 00:13:29,025 --> 00:13:30,766 and used to be around each other all the time 293 00:13:30,853 --> 00:13:32,507 and back and forth each of their houses. 294 00:13:32,637 --> 00:13:34,335 And he has to pushing real, real hard. 295 00:13:41,037 --> 00:13:45,215 One, two, three. Huh. [ Beatboxing ] 296 00:13:45,346 --> 00:13:49,654 That's when ODB used to call himself "The Rap Professor." 297 00:13:49,741 --> 00:13:55,356 He was a scientifical, hip-hop, junkie rhymer. 298 00:13:55,486 --> 00:13:56,966 And they were doing they thing. 299 00:13:57,053 --> 00:13:58,968 And, you know, you could tell 300 00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:02,058 that them three was on a mission to make a mark in the game. 301 00:14:02,102 --> 00:14:03,494 One, two, one, two. 302 00:14:03,581 --> 00:14:05,235 This how we do it from Brooklyn. 303 00:14:05,322 --> 00:14:07,150 [ Beatboxing ] 304 00:14:07,237 --> 00:14:09,109 Aw, yeah, that sounds kind of funky. 305 00:14:09,196 --> 00:14:10,850 ♪ Ow 306 00:14:17,552 --> 00:14:20,685 We was actually doing every mother...thing 307 00:14:20,729 --> 00:14:22,078 which way but loose go get a deal. 308 00:14:22,252 --> 00:14:23,514 Man: Yeah.You know what I'm sayin'? 309 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:25,212 Man: Ghostface Killah. Take one. 310 00:14:25,342 --> 00:14:28,955 [ Clears throat ] The way me and ODB met 311 00:14:29,085 --> 00:14:30,260 was through RZA. 312 00:14:30,347 --> 00:14:31,914 I'm up at RZA house. 313 00:14:32,088 --> 00:14:34,569 I'm eating a pastrami and cheese sandwich. 314 00:14:34,656 --> 00:14:37,354 And he come to me on the terrace... 315 00:14:37,398 --> 00:14:41,141 He just asked me like, "Yo. Let me get a piece of that." 316 00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:43,839 Dirt was -- He was like one of them guys that'd be like, 317 00:14:43,970 --> 00:14:46,973 "Yo, that's -- Yo, God. That was the best...sandwich 318 00:14:47,103 --> 00:14:48,975 I ever had in my life. ...than my babies." 319 00:14:49,062 --> 00:14:50,890 And this, that, and the third. 320 00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:52,543 From there, it just opened up a door. 321 00:14:52,630 --> 00:14:56,765 It was like, "Yo, I like this dude." 322 00:14:56,852 --> 00:14:59,942 Ramsey: After being in it for almost like 15 years, 323 00:15:00,029 --> 00:15:03,990 my mother got evicted with my brothers and sisters. 324 00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:06,993 It felt like the world was coming apart at the time. 325 00:15:07,123 --> 00:15:09,082 Aisha: My stepmother moved in to the house 326 00:15:09,212 --> 00:15:11,084 that her mom had on Putnam Avenue. 327 00:15:19,048 --> 00:15:21,659 When Icelene got pregnant with Taniqua, 328 00:15:21,790 --> 00:15:24,619 my brother was kind of like, "Alright. Now I'm a father." 329 00:15:24,793 --> 00:15:26,708 Icelene: His mother had a room in the house. 330 00:15:26,838 --> 00:15:29,189 He asked his mom, "Please, can I have his room?" 331 00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,974 She says, "I don't know, Unique, 'cause there's a lot of other people." 332 00:15:32,061 --> 00:15:34,324 So he had to show her that he really wanted the room. 333 00:15:34,455 --> 00:15:37,414 Aisha: He made a nice, clean space for him and Shaquita. 334 00:15:37,501 --> 00:15:39,590 He was very, very protective. 335 00:15:39,721 --> 00:15:42,245 He had Taniqua and Bar-Sun. 336 00:15:42,332 --> 00:15:44,378 Icelene: That's all he cared about, was us. 337 00:15:44,508 --> 00:15:47,642 We was his purpose on being righteous, being a rapper, 338 00:15:47,685 --> 00:15:51,602 doing everything, was to make sure he have us. 339 00:15:51,733 --> 00:15:54,692 Fernando: Ol' Dirty Bastard, to me, was a character. 340 00:15:54,823 --> 00:15:57,478 That was a name that came to him from RZA. 341 00:15:57,608 --> 00:15:58,609 RZA: In all history of rap, man, 342 00:15:58,740 --> 00:16:00,220 ain't nobody got my style. 343 00:16:00,307 --> 00:16:01,786 I keep it real. I keep it live. 344 00:16:01,917 --> 00:16:04,006 That's ol', dirty, and he's a bastard. 345 00:16:04,137 --> 00:16:06,269 Fernando: Ol' Dirty got his name from a movie 346 00:16:06,356 --> 00:16:08,184 called "Ol' Dirty and the Bastard," 347 00:16:08,315 --> 00:16:10,491 in which there's this drunken monk. 348 00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:13,233 It's like almost comic kung fu, like Jackie Chan, 349 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,235 where this guy's tipsy, 350 00:16:15,365 --> 00:16:18,194 but he's, like, messing up his opponent with the kung fu. 351 00:16:18,281 --> 00:16:24,287 ♪♪ 352 00:16:24,374 --> 00:16:26,681 All your rap dudes on Saturdays 353 00:16:26,768 --> 00:16:29,292 was in the house, waiting for 3:00 to come. 354 00:16:29,379 --> 00:16:32,426 [ Men grunting ] 355 00:16:32,556 --> 00:16:36,212 [ Imitating grunting ] 356 00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:37,431 Fighting each other. 357 00:16:37,518 --> 00:16:38,954 It was just illmatic. 358 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,912 Certain flicks would just be like, 359 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,479 "Yo, that's amazing!" 360 00:16:42,566 --> 00:16:46,483 ♪♪ 361 00:16:46,614 --> 00:16:48,746 When I had brought that flick to RZA, 362 00:16:48,877 --> 00:16:51,097 "Shaolin Vs. Wu Tang"... 363 00:16:51,140 --> 00:16:55,188 Shaolin shadowboxing. And a Wu-tang sword style. 364 00:16:55,275 --> 00:16:57,190 ...it just opened up a door in his mind. 365 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,714 He said, "Yo, I want to make a group called the Wu-Tang," 366 00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:01,585 off of that flick. 367 00:17:01,716 --> 00:17:05,023 We never knew that RZA was so passionate about it. 368 00:17:05,154 --> 00:17:06,721 Just the way they was moving, 369 00:17:06,763 --> 00:17:08,723 you would have thought they was Chinese... 370 00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:10,550 You know what I mean? 371 00:17:10,637 --> 00:17:12,596 I remember one day RZA just giving me a call 372 00:17:12,727 --> 00:17:14,903 and saying, "Yo, we want to start a group." 373 00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:16,512 So I'm like, "Perfect!" 374 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,080 But when RZA incorporated "ting-ting" 375 00:17:19,167 --> 00:17:20,560 all inside the... 376 00:17:20,691 --> 00:17:24,434 And..."Bring Da Ruckus." Is the Wu-Tang. 377 00:17:24,565 --> 00:17:26,741 You know what I mean? All that talking karate... 378 00:17:26,828 --> 00:17:29,309 Yo, it just went with it. 379 00:17:29,439 --> 00:17:31,398 Man: If what you say is true, 380 00:17:31,485 --> 00:17:34,749 the Shaolin and the Wu-Tang could be dangerous. 381 00:17:34,836 --> 00:17:36,925 Do you think your Wu-Tang sword can defeat me? 382 00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:53,855 Fernando: I first heard Wu-Tang in October of '92, 383 00:17:53,942 --> 00:17:56,031 and the song was "Protect Ya Neck." 384 00:17:56,205 --> 00:17:58,947 ♪ Wu-Tang Clan comin' at ya, watch your step, kid ♪ 385 00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:01,123 ♪ Watch your step, kid, watch your step, kid ♪ 386 00:18:01,210 --> 00:18:02,777 ♪ Watch your step, kid ♪ So set it off 387 00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:04,648 ♪ Watch your step, kid, watch your step, kid ♪ 388 00:18:04,779 --> 00:18:07,347 ♪ I smoke on the mic like Smokin' Joe Frazier ♪ 389 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:09,218 ♪ The hell raiser, raisin' hell with the flavor ♪ 390 00:18:09,349 --> 00:18:12,700 "Protect Ya Neck" was the first record ever assembled. 391 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:16,834 So when that record hit, it was like, "Oh..." 392 00:18:16,965 --> 00:18:18,923 We all looked at each other and we like, 393 00:18:19,054 --> 00:18:21,665 "Yo, ain't no stopping now." 394 00:18:21,796 --> 00:18:25,104 I knew -- Like, "Yo, it's about to be on. 395 00:18:25,191 --> 00:18:27,454 And we takin' -- Whoever got that belt, 396 00:18:27,584 --> 00:18:30,065 we comin' for it and we gonna hold that. 397 00:18:30,152 --> 00:18:32,372 You feel me? ...that. We want that belt. 398 00:18:32,502 --> 00:18:34,330 We want everybody belt. 399 00:18:34,417 --> 00:18:37,551 Single-handedly and group-wise." So that was the mission. 400 00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:41,207 We knew the record was different and it was dope, 401 00:18:41,294 --> 00:18:44,166 but it just was something enough 402 00:18:44,297 --> 00:18:46,429 to get people to take a look at us. 403 00:18:46,473 --> 00:18:48,823 I think what was extraordinary about Wu-Tang Clan 404 00:18:48,953 --> 00:18:50,912 that was so striking for all of us 405 00:18:51,042 --> 00:18:54,611 was that they were a group and they were cohesive. 406 00:18:54,785 --> 00:18:57,266 Raekwon: At that time, they wasn't making groups like this. 407 00:18:57,353 --> 00:19:01,227 They wasn't putting 10-man groups together. 408 00:19:01,314 --> 00:19:03,707 A lot of hip-hop is kind of 409 00:19:03,838 --> 00:19:06,971 this beautiful Italian sports car, 410 00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:08,669 and it's been buffed and it's been polished 411 00:19:08,799 --> 00:19:11,193 and it's candy-apple red and it's shiny. 412 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,543 RZA's music? 413 00:19:13,674 --> 00:19:15,415 Pop the hood. 414 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:17,330 What drives that car? 415 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:20,028 What drives that performance machine? 416 00:19:20,202 --> 00:19:21,377 Ghostface: The reaction to "Protect Ya Neck" -- 417 00:19:21,464 --> 00:19:22,944 it was madness. 418 00:19:23,074 --> 00:19:26,034 Riding past cars hearing it. 419 00:19:26,121 --> 00:19:28,602 People calling up, "Yo, could you play that Wu joint again? 420 00:19:28,776 --> 00:19:30,081 Yo, we need that." 421 00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:32,083 One thing just led to the next. 422 00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,912 The buzz around the Wu-Tang Clan before they got signed -- 423 00:19:35,043 --> 00:19:37,350 it just kept growing and growing and growing. 424 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,613 It's on the radio. It's everywhere. 425 00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:43,530 And everyone's trying to get a piece of this Wu-Tang Clan. 426 00:19:43,617 --> 00:19:46,446 Steve Rifkind. I was the founder and CEO of Loud Records. 427 00:19:46,576 --> 00:19:48,099 I'm pretty competitive, 428 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:51,102 so I wanted it to be the biggest 429 00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:53,104 and best label that it could possibly be. 430 00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:55,368 Wu-Tang brought the New York rap scene back. 431 00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:57,587 When they played that record the first time, 432 00:19:57,631 --> 00:19:59,110 you know, when the guys left, I said, 433 00:19:59,285 --> 00:20:00,982 "I got to have this. What is it gonna take?" 434 00:20:01,112 --> 00:20:04,812 Before we even got it going, we did have conversations 435 00:20:04,899 --> 00:20:09,208 about each one of us have their own style 436 00:20:09,338 --> 00:20:11,340 that they're gonna bring to the table. 437 00:20:11,427 --> 00:20:14,125 And the first one that was gonna be off the roster 438 00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:18,956 that was gonna go first was Ol' Dirty Bastard. 439 00:20:19,043 --> 00:20:21,132 His delivery was different. 440 00:20:21,263 --> 00:20:23,744 There's no father to it. 441 00:20:23,874 --> 00:20:25,963 He's gonna say whatever he want to say 442 00:20:26,094 --> 00:20:27,704 and make it sound crazy. 443 00:20:27,835 --> 00:20:29,402 It's like he already knew 444 00:20:29,489 --> 00:20:31,360 what he was getting ready to give the world. 445 00:20:31,534 --> 00:20:34,755 ♪ Ya best protect ya neck, ya best protect ya neck ♪ 446 00:20:40,413 --> 00:20:42,241 The Wu brought a lot of... to the game, man. 447 00:20:42,328 --> 00:20:44,547 I mean, the Wu brought intelligence. 448 00:20:44,634 --> 00:20:46,723 The Wu brought, you know, charisma 449 00:20:46,854 --> 00:20:48,116 on that microphone. 450 00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:49,552 We brought slang. 451 00:20:49,639 --> 00:20:51,946 I brought a dress code. You see me, man. 452 00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:56,080 I brought Wonder Woman bracelets and robes and clocks. 453 00:20:56,124 --> 00:20:58,213 You know what I mean? 454 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,563 Dirt was doing what the... he was doing. 455 00:21:00,694 --> 00:21:02,391 We brought science. 456 00:21:02,565 --> 00:21:06,395 We was young. 25. You feel me? 457 00:21:06,526 --> 00:21:09,180 Doing what 25-year-olds do. That's getting money. 458 00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:10,704 You know what I mean? 459 00:21:10,834 --> 00:21:12,749 Carey: I was a very big fan 460 00:21:12,836 --> 00:21:15,796 of Wu-Tang Clan "36 Chambers." 461 00:21:15,926 --> 00:21:17,145 I loved "C.R.E.A.M." 462 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:22,977 ♪ 463 00:21:23,064 --> 00:21:26,067 Rifkind: In its heyday, I think we did two main units 464 00:21:26,154 --> 00:21:28,591 without really a radio record. 465 00:21:28,722 --> 00:21:30,506 We had the record "Shame," 466 00:21:30,637 --> 00:21:32,247 which it was really featuring Dirty, 467 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,554 and that record was just a smash. 468 00:21:34,684 --> 00:21:37,557 I first heard Ol' Dirty Bastard 469 00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:39,428 on the record "Protect Ya neck." 470 00:21:53,921 --> 00:21:57,359 The next time I heard him outside of that context 471 00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:59,579 was on the "Stretch & Bobbito" show. 472 00:21:59,709 --> 00:22:02,756 Ason was a listener of our show starting in '90, 473 00:22:02,886 --> 00:22:06,150 and he would call up and he would get through a lot, 474 00:22:06,237 --> 00:22:07,761 and he became, like, this character 475 00:22:07,891 --> 00:22:09,719 that we knew who was out there. 476 00:22:09,806 --> 00:22:12,809 And then he came in -- came to the station with RZA. 477 00:22:20,034 --> 00:22:23,167 Ross: Now Stretch and Bob had a very, very popular 478 00:22:23,211 --> 00:22:25,779 underground show during the '90s. 479 00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:27,737 If you came through the "Stretch & Bobbito" show, 480 00:22:27,868 --> 00:22:30,871 that was almost as good as getting a deal. 481 00:22:31,001 --> 00:22:34,701 Stretch: One of our dear friends in the industry was Dante Ross. 482 00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:37,834 Dante was an A&R executive at Elektra, 483 00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,923 and one night he was listening 484 00:22:40,054 --> 00:22:41,882 and he heard Ol' Dirty just smash it. 485 00:22:56,070 --> 00:23:01,031 Dante offered him a deal on site that night. 486 00:23:01,118 --> 00:23:03,120 Raekwon: He was one of the first ones 487 00:23:03,251 --> 00:23:06,907 that we knew out the crew that was definitely going solo. 488 00:23:06,994 --> 00:23:09,518 Ross: I signed ODB to Elektra Records 489 00:23:09,649 --> 00:23:11,694 and executive-produced his first record. 490 00:23:11,825 --> 00:23:15,089 He had six songs on the demo. They all were on the album. 491 00:23:15,219 --> 00:23:16,917 His demo was one of the greatest demos 492 00:23:17,047 --> 00:23:18,701 I've ever had in my entire life. 493 00:23:18,832 --> 00:23:20,529 It was a no-brainer. 494 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,096 When I heard those records, 495 00:23:22,183 --> 00:23:24,925 I knew that he was going to be a star. 496 00:23:25,012 --> 00:23:27,101 Oh, one more -- one more thing before you cut it off. 497 00:23:27,275 --> 00:23:30,147 I'd like to congratulate my physical cousin Ason 498 00:23:30,278 --> 00:23:31,801 for his newborn baby daughter today. 499 00:23:31,888 --> 00:23:33,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah! 500 00:23:33,847 --> 00:23:35,588 [ Cheers and applause ]Congratulations. 501 00:23:35,718 --> 00:23:38,373 Icelene: Unique and the Clan were out grinding. 502 00:23:38,504 --> 00:23:42,072 I was at home with two children and pregnant with my third. 503 00:23:42,159 --> 00:23:44,335 At this time, I'm staying with my parents. 504 00:23:44,466 --> 00:23:47,382 After I had my third child, which was Shaquita, 505 00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:50,777 my parents were like, "You got to go into a shelter." 506 00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:54,694 So me and Unique and the children moved into a shelter. 507 00:23:54,781 --> 00:23:56,739 Then one day out of nowhere -- we were in the shelter -- 508 00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:59,176 he just came home and says, "We're gonna go get married." 509 00:23:59,307 --> 00:24:01,309 That was the proposal. [ Laughs ] 510 00:24:01,483 --> 00:24:03,703 We stayed in the shelter for about six months. 511 00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:06,357 And then we found the place. 512 00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:08,534 So we ended up choosing Harlem. 513 00:24:08,664 --> 00:24:11,754 We only lived there for maybe six months, 514 00:24:11,841 --> 00:24:14,148 and around the same time Wu-Tang had made it 515 00:24:14,278 --> 00:24:16,150 at that point when it got noticed. 516 00:24:16,237 --> 00:24:17,804 You heard their music on the radio, 517 00:24:17,978 --> 00:24:21,068 and he was going through a lot to make it happen. 518 00:24:21,155 --> 00:24:22,591 Chang: I saw his hair first. 519 00:24:22,678 --> 00:24:24,463 I probably just went up and introduced myself. 520 00:24:24,593 --> 00:24:26,769 I don't even think that I needed to ask if it was him. 521 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,293 And, you know, in clubs, it's so loud, 522 00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:32,166 so he had to be really close to me 523 00:24:32,209 --> 00:24:34,473 and kind of, you know, almost yelling in my ear. 524 00:24:34,603 --> 00:24:36,518 And I just remember laughing really loud. 525 00:24:36,649 --> 00:24:37,954 And then there was gunfire.[ Gunfire ] 526 00:24:38,041 --> 00:24:40,043 And he immediately pushed me down. 527 00:24:40,130 --> 00:24:41,654 Like, "Get on the floor." 528 00:24:41,784 --> 00:24:43,917 I had never heard gunfire in my life. 529 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,049 He pushed me down immediately. He's like, "Get down, Sophie!" 530 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:48,356 And then he just stayed down with me. 531 00:24:48,443 --> 00:24:50,837 And when everything started to clear, 532 00:24:50,924 --> 00:24:53,666 I just remember he was laughing really hard. 533 00:24:53,796 --> 00:24:55,581 He just thought it was so funny. He wasn't shook at all. 534 00:24:55,711 --> 00:24:57,365 I was shook for sure. 535 00:24:57,452 --> 00:25:00,803 I eventually made my way home in a cab. 536 00:25:00,934 --> 00:25:03,545 And he called me. 537 00:25:03,632 --> 00:25:06,722 And he said, "Hey, Sophie. It's Dirty. Are you okay?" 538 00:25:06,809 --> 00:25:09,116 All of that is -- 539 00:25:09,159 --> 00:25:14,034 was so telling about the man. 540 00:25:14,077 --> 00:25:17,994 You know, when I think about Ason, 541 00:25:18,081 --> 00:25:20,083 I don't think about his music, I don't think about his rhymes. 542 00:25:20,214 --> 00:25:22,042 I think about his heart. 543 00:25:22,129 --> 00:25:25,524 Dirty said, "Sophie, I love the...out of you." 544 00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:27,569 He said, "You know, when I'm with you, 545 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:29,266 I don't have to be Ol' Dirty Bastard. 546 00:25:29,397 --> 00:25:30,920 I can be Ason Unique." 547 00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:32,531 [ Click ] 548 00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:40,582 ODB: You know? 549 00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:42,715 You know what I'm saying? 550 00:26:03,387 --> 00:26:04,693 You know what I'm saying? 551 00:26:04,780 --> 00:26:05,912 [ Tape whirring ] 552 00:26:06,042 --> 00:26:07,783 ♪ 553 00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:09,916 Ross: In shaping his public persona, 554 00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:13,484 I would say that Dirty was 100% responsible for all of it. 555 00:26:13,615 --> 00:26:15,530 He was very self-aware 556 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:19,403 of the character he was portraying. 557 00:26:19,534 --> 00:26:21,710 He had a warm spirit and soul. 558 00:26:21,841 --> 00:26:25,627 He was someone who I genuinely cared for as a person. 559 00:26:25,714 --> 00:26:28,282 And Ol' Dirty Bastard was the -- [ Chuckles ] 560 00:26:28,325 --> 00:26:30,240 the yin-yang version of that. 561 00:26:30,284 --> 00:26:33,287 He was a performer, an entertainer, 562 00:26:33,417 --> 00:26:37,596 a troublemaker, half a derelict, 563 00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:39,772 someone who had to live up to his name. 564 00:26:39,902 --> 00:26:41,904 He demanded to be the center of attention. 565 00:26:41,991 --> 00:26:44,864 There was no way you were not going to notice him. 566 00:26:44,907 --> 00:26:46,692 Woman: Tell us some more about the album. 567 00:26:46,779 --> 00:26:49,303 The album is called "Return to the 36 Chambers." 568 00:26:49,433 --> 00:26:51,174 You know, the reason why we said -- 569 00:26:51,348 --> 00:26:53,089 we call it the "Return to the 36 Chambers" 570 00:26:53,263 --> 00:26:54,917 'cause, see, the Ol' Dirty Bastard 571 00:26:55,004 --> 00:26:56,832 is like the representer of the Wu. 572 00:26:56,963 --> 00:26:58,704 You know? They gave me that title. 573 00:26:58,791 --> 00:27:02,533 They gave me, you know -- They'll throw me out first. 574 00:27:02,577 --> 00:27:04,753 Ross: He designed the record cover. That was his idea. 575 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,625 And that embodies how aware he was 576 00:27:06,755 --> 00:27:08,539 of the Ol' Dirty Bastard character 577 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,498 and how we wanted it to be positioned. 578 00:27:10,585 --> 00:27:12,674 He literally came to my office with his welfare card. 579 00:27:12,761 --> 00:27:15,068 I think it might've been Icelene's welfare card actually. 580 00:27:15,198 --> 00:27:16,896 And said, "I want this to be my album cover." 581 00:27:16,983 --> 00:27:18,680 You know, the way he talked -- He's like, 582 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:20,377 "I got crazy thoughts. I got thoughts, God." 583 00:27:20,464 --> 00:27:23,119 Like, "Here's the thought." 584 00:27:23,206 --> 00:27:25,339 Clinch: There was not a lot of hip-hop 585 00:27:25,426 --> 00:27:27,428 in Rolling Stonemagazine, if any. 586 00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:30,170 The big name-photographers, the veterans, 587 00:27:30,344 --> 00:27:32,215 they weren't shooting hip-hop. 588 00:27:32,302 --> 00:27:34,391 It wasn't of interest to them. They thought it was a fad. 589 00:27:34,478 --> 00:27:35,958 So it opened the door 590 00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:39,309 for a lot of young photographers like myself. 591 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,573 Jacobson: Right away, I could tell that he had a really strong 592 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,098 and definite idea of his image, 593 00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:50,364 and how he wanted to portray himself for the album cover art. 594 00:27:50,494 --> 00:27:53,236 Clinch: There was certainly a buzz about ODB. 595 00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:56,500 The idea was to create an identity there for him, 596 00:27:56,631 --> 00:27:58,241 cultivate this character. 597 00:27:58,372 --> 00:28:00,504 Danny, being the coolest cat in the world, 598 00:28:00,591 --> 00:28:02,245 asked Dirty what he wanted to do. 599 00:28:02,332 --> 00:28:04,117 And Dirty was like, "Yo, we should go to my cousin's. 600 00:28:04,247 --> 00:28:07,250 My cousin's rest in Brooklyn is mad...up." 601 00:28:07,424 --> 00:28:09,252 Dirty art-directed the shoot. 602 00:28:09,383 --> 00:28:11,559 He said, "The room, it's not...up enough." 603 00:28:11,646 --> 00:28:13,430 And he sent his assistant to get like 10 blunts 604 00:28:13,561 --> 00:28:15,171 and a bunch of forties. 605 00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:17,173 And he poured most of the forties out 606 00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:19,915 and he put them around the room, and he took all the blunt guts 607 00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:21,874 and he put them on the floor all over the place. 608 00:28:22,004 --> 00:28:23,789 And he took the TV and the stereo 609 00:28:23,876 --> 00:28:25,573 and stacked them on each other, 610 00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:27,183 took his shirt off, and was like, "Let's go." 611 00:28:27,314 --> 00:28:29,403 Dirty was the antithesis of what rap was. 612 00:28:29,533 --> 00:28:31,361 He was not upwardly mobile. 613 00:28:31,405 --> 00:28:33,276 He might have been downwardly mobile. 614 00:28:33,363 --> 00:28:36,453 He kind of celebrated what some would call the struggle 615 00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:39,239 in a gregarious fashion. 616 00:28:39,369 --> 00:28:41,632 He was wrapping up his album, 617 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,375 and I saw him, and he was like, 618 00:28:45,462 --> 00:28:46,942 "Yo, God, I need something for the album." 619 00:28:47,073 --> 00:28:48,639 I was like, "I'd love to be on it." 620 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,032 He was like, "You got to hurry up, though." 621 00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,121 I'm digging. I'm looking for sounds. 622 00:28:52,208 --> 00:28:57,823 And I found this drop that was so crazy-sounding. 623 00:28:57,953 --> 00:28:59,650 I called Dirty. I was like, "Yo, I got it." 624 00:28:59,738 --> 00:29:02,392 I played it, and instantly he was in love with it. 625 00:29:02,479 --> 00:29:04,220 Introducing the Brooklyn Zoo, 626 00:29:04,307 --> 00:29:06,266 something that y'all have never experienced before. 627 00:29:06,396 --> 00:29:09,573 Something that you didn't expect 628 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:11,314 but you wanted and you needed it 629 00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:14,056 because it's something that you just had to get. 630 00:29:14,143 --> 00:29:17,059 We was listening to it over and over again. 631 00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:20,106 He was like, "Yo, God, I think this might be my first single." 632 00:29:20,193 --> 00:29:22,673 "Brooklyn Zoo" was, like, a really unorthodox -- 633 00:29:22,804 --> 00:29:24,458 Like Ol' Dirty Bastard. 634 00:29:24,545 --> 00:29:26,939 You threw it on in a 1,000-person club, 635 00:29:27,026 --> 00:29:29,898 and everyone is gonna end up 636 00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:32,292 like 20 feet from where they started. 637 00:29:43,259 --> 00:29:45,261 Choke No Joke: ♪ One-man army, Ason 638 00:29:45,392 --> 00:29:49,178 ♪ I never been tooken out, I keep MC's looking out ♪ 639 00:29:49,309 --> 00:29:52,878 Yo. Like, the flow is just crazy! 640 00:29:53,008 --> 00:29:54,793 He didn't have a style. 641 00:29:54,923 --> 00:29:56,490 Ol' Dirty Bastard's gonna make you like, 642 00:29:56,620 --> 00:29:58,144 "What the -- What?! 643 00:29:58,274 --> 00:30:00,799 What did he say?! Yo, he's crazy!" 644 00:30:11,766 --> 00:30:13,768 Funkmaster Flex: He had the most swag. 645 00:30:13,899 --> 00:30:16,989 His rhythm and his melodies were ahead of its time. 646 00:30:17,076 --> 00:30:21,254 A lot of people zone in on his voice, not -- 647 00:30:21,384 --> 00:30:24,648 But it's the melodies. It's the -- It's the -- 648 00:30:24,692 --> 00:30:27,434 In his voice to come up, to come down 649 00:30:27,477 --> 00:30:30,002 to stretch a word out. 650 00:30:37,748 --> 00:30:39,750 ♪ I seen and heard, no one knows ♪ 651 00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:42,405 ♪ You forget, be quiet as kept 652 00:30:42,492 --> 00:30:44,103 ♪ Now you know nothing 653 00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:46,148 ♪ Before you knew a whole bloodclot lot ♪ 654 00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:47,933 ♪ You don't wanna get shot 655 00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,586 Funkmaster Flex: You know, his freestyle game, too. 656 00:30:49,717 --> 00:30:51,153 It wasn't just what he was saying. 657 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,634 It's his hand movement and how he's moving. 658 00:30:53,721 --> 00:30:55,592 You ever seen that video of that freestyle? 659 00:30:55,723 --> 00:30:58,595 ♪ Asiatic flow, mixed with disco ♪ 660 00:30:58,682 --> 00:31:01,772 ♪ I roll up on the scene like the Count of Monte Crisco ♪ 661 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,862 ♪ And MC's start to vanish 662 00:31:03,949 --> 00:31:05,515 ♪ I rolled up on a jet-black kid ♪ 663 00:31:05,602 --> 00:31:06,777 ♪ He started speakin' Spanish 664 00:31:06,865 --> 00:31:09,258 ♪ Yo, he wasn't from Panama 665 00:31:09,389 --> 00:31:11,173 ♪ I asked him how the...he get so dark ♪ 666 00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:14,133 ♪ He said, "Sun-tanama!" Crowd: Ohh! 667 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:17,397 Funkmaster Flex: That's an MC mixed with being a b-boy 668 00:31:17,527 --> 00:31:19,355 mixed with being from Brooklyn. 669 00:31:19,486 --> 00:31:21,140 Connor: ODB sewed the seeds 670 00:31:21,270 --> 00:31:24,230 for rap as expression 671 00:31:24,317 --> 00:31:28,060 rather than rap as like a kind of technical exercise 672 00:31:28,147 --> 00:31:30,279 in fitting together words to rhyme the most. 673 00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:33,195 He knew exactly what rules to break at what time. 674 00:31:33,326 --> 00:31:35,154 And "Mystery of Chessboxin'," for me, 675 00:31:35,284 --> 00:31:37,591 is really the song that shows that the most. 676 00:31:44,772 --> 00:31:47,862 What he's saying becomes such, like, a overload 677 00:31:47,993 --> 00:31:50,473 of kind of, like, expression 678 00:31:50,604 --> 00:31:52,432 or him trying to get you to hear him 679 00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,957 that is just, like, this really great moment of him 680 00:31:56,088 --> 00:31:58,220 almost, like, punching through the song 681 00:31:58,351 --> 00:31:59,874 and reaching you directly. 682 00:31:59,961 --> 00:32:01,615 And I think that kind of rawness 683 00:32:01,702 --> 00:32:05,662 is really what makes people unable to stop watching. 684 00:32:05,836 --> 00:32:10,450 Dirty's first solo album -- it was raw, it was new. 685 00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:13,105 It was refreshing. You know what I mean? 686 00:32:13,192 --> 00:32:15,542 A little raunchy. You know what I mean? 687 00:32:15,629 --> 00:32:17,326 But, again, it was him. 688 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,241 Everybody trying to please somebody, man. 689 00:32:19,328 --> 00:32:20,851 I ain't trying to please no...body. 690 00:32:20,982 --> 00:32:22,723 Know what I'm saying? 691 00:32:22,853 --> 00:32:23,898 Either you like my... or you don't like it. 692 00:32:24,029 --> 00:32:25,204 I don't give a... 693 00:32:25,334 --> 00:32:26,901 Ross: The record spread. 694 00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:29,164 It was a hit record because of his persona 695 00:32:29,295 --> 00:32:31,601 and how much he projected on screen. 696 00:32:31,732 --> 00:32:33,864 And the camera loved him. 697 00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:36,432 ♪ Ooh, baby, I like it raw 698 00:32:36,476 --> 00:32:39,218 ♪ Yeah, baby, I like it raw 699 00:32:39,305 --> 00:32:41,611 ♪ Ooh, baby, I like it raw 700 00:32:41,698 --> 00:32:45,093 ♪ Yeah, baby, I like it raw 701 00:32:45,224 --> 00:32:47,356 ♪ Shimmy, shimmy, ya, shimmy, yam, shimmy, yay ♪ 702 00:32:47,487 --> 00:32:50,055 ♪ Gimme the mic so I can take it away ♪ 703 00:32:50,185 --> 00:32:52,535 ♪ Off on a natural charge, bon voyage ♪ 704 00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:55,016 ♪ Yeah, from the home of the Dodger Brooklyn squad ♪ 705 00:32:55,147 --> 00:32:57,410 ♪ Wu-Tang killer bees on a swarm ♪ 706 00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:59,803 ♪ Rain on your college-ass disco dorm ♪ 707 00:32:59,890 --> 00:33:02,458 ♪ For you to even touch my skill, you gotta go... ♪ 708 00:33:02,589 --> 00:33:06,375 Ross: He was dangerous on some level, but he was lovable. 709 00:33:06,462 --> 00:33:07,855 You kind of wanted to put your arms around him 710 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:09,639 and give him a hug. 711 00:33:09,726 --> 00:33:12,077 He had this everyman thing that we all love, 712 00:33:12,207 --> 00:33:13,687 and he had that combined 713 00:33:13,774 --> 00:33:16,472 with this person who had no boundaries. 714 00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,822 ♪ My flow is like bam, jump on stage, and then I dip down ♪ 715 00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:21,564 Ross: He was not built for fame and fortune and success. 716 00:33:21,651 --> 00:33:23,392 Very few of us are. 717 00:33:23,479 --> 00:33:27,831 He became the uber version of Ol' Dirty Bastard. 718 00:33:27,918 --> 00:33:29,877 And he was, from my vantage point, 719 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:32,314 headed for some form of disaster. 720 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:39,930 Jacobson: When he was kind of alone, 721 00:33:40,018 --> 00:33:43,499 he was a little bit more introverted and quiet. 722 00:33:43,630 --> 00:33:48,722 He struck me as a young person who had a lot of responsibility. 723 00:33:48,765 --> 00:33:50,898 He was scrappy. He was -- He was coming up 724 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:54,771 and he had a mission to make money. 725 00:33:54,858 --> 00:33:57,209 Raekwon: Dirty -- he knew a lot of people who had money. 726 00:33:57,296 --> 00:33:59,428 He knew a lot of people that didn't have money. 727 00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,735 He knew people from his own neighborhood. 728 00:34:08,742 --> 00:34:11,658 Everybody knew Dirty had a big heart. 729 00:34:11,831 --> 00:34:14,052 His thing was always to give back to his people. 730 00:34:19,187 --> 00:34:21,233 He loved to give people money. 731 00:34:21,362 --> 00:34:23,190 And that's just who he was. 732 00:34:23,322 --> 00:34:25,541 Because he always said, "I'm gonna make more money. 733 00:34:25,628 --> 00:34:27,935 I'm gonna make more money." He was the only guy that I knew 734 00:34:28,022 --> 00:34:31,025 that really didn't care about money at that time. 735 00:34:31,156 --> 00:34:34,637 He loved to help people, but he also loved to be 736 00:34:34,681 --> 00:34:39,338 three minutes away from where...is at. 737 00:34:39,425 --> 00:34:42,819 He was drinking a lot, and he stayed in those areas 738 00:34:42,949 --> 00:34:45,431 where trouble is right around the corner. 739 00:34:45,561 --> 00:34:46,909 That's when you start hearing... 740 00:34:47,041 --> 00:34:48,608 If a mother...see you drunk, 741 00:34:48,782 --> 00:34:50,784 he gonna feel like he got one up on you. 742 00:34:50,914 --> 00:34:52,568 Woman: Trying to get in the hotel. 743 00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:55,179 He was just putting himself in bad places 744 00:34:55,266 --> 00:34:57,965 at the wrong time, you know? 745 00:34:58,052 --> 00:34:59,880 Icelene: I'm at home with the children. 746 00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:02,012 Unique's father calls me, says, "Shaquita, don't be scared. 747 00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:05,015 Unique is alright, but he was shot." 748 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:08,018 He was in a familiar place, and somebody attacked him. 749 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:09,629 I think that hurt him -- 750 00:35:09,759 --> 00:35:11,544 hurt emotionally and hurt physically 751 00:35:11,631 --> 00:35:13,546 from the gunshot wound. 752 00:35:27,212 --> 00:35:28,909 Life: Lot of the things Dirty went through -- 753 00:35:28,996 --> 00:35:30,650 getting shot and everything -- 754 00:35:30,737 --> 00:35:33,522 was because he stayed accessible to the people. 755 00:35:33,653 --> 00:35:36,134 But you did have people that was jealous. 756 00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:39,528 I mean, he had things that other people wanted, and, you know, 757 00:35:39,702 --> 00:35:42,270 certain things happen, unfortunately, you know? 758 00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:45,143 But he never let that deter him. He stayed who he was. 759 00:36:00,332 --> 00:36:01,594 -[ Chuckles ] Okay. -You know what I mean? 760 00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:03,248 Alright. 761 00:36:03,335 --> 00:36:04,814 Icelene: It felt like magic. 762 00:36:04,901 --> 00:36:06,773 You should be here so you can lay down. 763 00:36:06,903 --> 00:36:08,862 I was there with him when he was writing his music 764 00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:11,865 and playing the music and blasting it through the apartment. 765 00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:13,693 It was something that we worked on. 766 00:36:13,867 --> 00:36:15,912 You couldn't believe that something like this 767 00:36:15,999 --> 00:36:17,479 was really happening. 768 00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:21,091 [ Rapping indistinctly ] 769 00:36:21,222 --> 00:36:25,835 [ Crowd cheering ] 770 00:36:25,922 --> 00:36:28,447 My father -- he just did whatever he wanted, 771 00:36:28,534 --> 00:36:32,102 when he wanted to, on a stage. 772 00:36:32,233 --> 00:36:35,889 And I couldn't believe that that was my father. 773 00:36:35,976 --> 00:36:38,979 He was being so funny, but it was still real. 774 00:36:39,153 --> 00:36:41,503 He had that joker about him. 775 00:36:41,634 --> 00:36:43,810 I think he knew what he is. 776 00:36:43,897 --> 00:36:47,857 He's a man of respect. For honor. 777 00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:55,256 ♪♪ 778 00:36:55,387 --> 00:36:58,128 Man: Give it up for the ODB, y'all! 779 00:36:58,216 --> 00:36:59,913 [ Indistinct conversations ] 780 00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:07,094 [ Indistinct conversations ] 781 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:15,624 ♪ 782 00:37:15,711 --> 00:37:24,372 ♪♪ 783 00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:27,419 He really loved people. 784 00:37:27,549 --> 00:37:29,899 [ Indistinct conversations ] 785 00:37:29,986 --> 00:37:32,119 ♪♪ 786 00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:34,730 He showered people with their love. 787 00:37:34,817 --> 00:37:38,038 ♪♪ 788 00:37:38,168 --> 00:37:39,779 [ Indistinct conversations ] 789 00:37:39,909 --> 00:37:44,958 ♪ 790 00:37:45,045 --> 00:37:47,526 That love goes a long way. 791 00:37:47,656 --> 00:37:49,832 You know? 'Cause he -- he had this strong love. 792 00:37:49,919 --> 00:37:56,317 ♪♪ 793 00:37:56,448 --> 00:38:02,932 ♪ 794 00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:06,196 Mommy was his love, his only love. 795 00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:08,590 ♪♪ 796 00:38:08,677 --> 00:38:11,071 And it became -- all of that love 797 00:38:11,201 --> 00:38:14,466 that you have from your wife goes into your children. 798 00:38:14,553 --> 00:38:18,731 ♪♪ 799 00:38:18,905 --> 00:38:21,473 Taniqua: We're different than a lot of people, upbringing wise. 800 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,041 We don't move like a lot of people. 801 00:38:25,128 --> 00:38:27,000 Bar-Sun: My father understand that we was one. 802 00:38:27,087 --> 00:38:29,655 We was all one, united and connected. 803 00:38:29,785 --> 00:38:32,266 ♪ 804 00:38:32,397 --> 00:38:33,876 Shaquita: It was kind of like keep us together. 805 00:38:34,007 --> 00:38:36,879 Keep us tight, close. 806 00:38:37,010 --> 00:38:39,055 But we can't just let anybody and everybody in. 807 00:38:39,142 --> 00:38:41,144 ♪♪ 808 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:43,669 He didn't have us around everybody. 809 00:38:43,799 --> 00:38:45,627 He always kept us away And just be like, 810 00:38:45,714 --> 00:38:47,150 "Okay. This is where y'all are. 811 00:38:47,237 --> 00:38:49,239 And this is where y'all gonna be." 812 00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:51,764 We keep everything tight in our little cipher. 813 00:38:51,851 --> 00:38:54,114 [ Indistinct conversations ] 814 00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:56,638 Cipher is from the mathematics. 815 00:38:56,812 --> 00:38:59,380 Cipher is a circle. 816 00:38:59,511 --> 00:39:01,904 And we don't let nobody break our cipher. 817 00:39:02,035 --> 00:39:03,950 We don't let anybody come into our cipher. 818 00:39:04,037 --> 00:39:07,519 If we do, we're giving you the ultimate trust and respect. 819 00:39:07,649 --> 00:39:10,435 And once you are in, you're in. 820 00:39:10,565 --> 00:39:12,872 And if you break it, that's it -- we're pushing you out. 821 00:39:12,959 --> 00:39:16,005 ODB: Come on, man. I gotta spin this thing. Look out. 822 00:39:16,092 --> 00:39:18,399 Spin it.Spin it, spin it, spin it! 823 00:39:18,486 --> 00:39:22,534 [ Laughter ] 824 00:39:22,621 --> 00:39:25,841 Icelene: I kept trying to get him back on track as being Unique Ason. 825 00:39:25,928 --> 00:39:28,322 He didn't know which way to go at times 826 00:39:28,409 --> 00:39:31,238 because there was so many people pulling him in a negative way. 827 00:39:31,369 --> 00:39:32,718 Child: Are we going down or something? 828 00:39:32,848 --> 00:39:34,546 It became a little confusing to him 829 00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:37,070 on who was really there for him and who wasn't. 830 00:39:42,989 --> 00:39:45,165 Jacobson: He was kind of a mixed bag of personalities. 831 00:39:45,252 --> 00:39:47,863 There was a kind of -- a sadness in a certain way with him. 832 00:39:49,778 --> 00:39:52,128 Raekwon: Once he started getting money, he just was confident 833 00:39:52,259 --> 00:39:54,957 in what he believed that he was gonna be. 834 00:39:55,044 --> 00:39:58,831 But you know how it goes. It start feeling different. 835 00:39:58,961 --> 00:40:01,007 It start feeling funny. 836 00:40:01,094 --> 00:40:02,835 Touré: I was working for MTV News. 837 00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:04,837 "Brooklyn Zoo" was out. 838 00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:08,014 And I was like, "Let's do a profile package with this guy." 839 00:40:08,188 --> 00:40:10,320 The night before the shoot, 840 00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:14,716 I'm on the phone with Dirty, his publicist. 841 00:40:14,847 --> 00:40:18,198 Jacobson: Dirty wanted to make the first stop of the interview 842 00:40:18,285 --> 00:40:23,029 be going to a check-cashing establishment. 843 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:24,770 And he's like, explaining, like, 844 00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:28,861 "So, we're gonna go to the check-cashing place 845 00:40:28,991 --> 00:40:31,690 and I'm gonna get food stamps. 846 00:40:31,777 --> 00:40:34,432 'Cause that relates to the album cover." 847 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,870 And I was like, "Okay. It's got to be real. 848 00:40:37,913 --> 00:40:39,306 This is not a music video." 849 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,743 You're trying to talk to a person, 850 00:40:41,787 --> 00:40:44,006 but they're not really listening. 851 00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:45,791 Icelene: He had a limo for the day. 852 00:40:45,878 --> 00:40:48,054 We went to some check-cashing place in Brooklyn 853 00:40:48,184 --> 00:40:50,143 we used to go to a lot. I'm thinking we just gonna 854 00:40:50,273 --> 00:40:51,840 go in there and talk or whatever. 855 00:40:51,971 --> 00:40:53,668 He wanted me to put my food-stamp card in there, 856 00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:55,322 and I had it 'cause I had it in my wallet 857 00:40:55,409 --> 00:40:57,237 'cause I used to carry it all the time. 858 00:40:57,324 --> 00:40:59,152 He said, "Put your card in there. Put your card in there." 859 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,980 Woman: Thank you. 860 00:41:01,067 --> 00:41:02,982 It was like 400 and somewhat dollars of food stamps. 861 00:41:03,069 --> 00:41:06,115 He, like, fanned it out for the camera. 862 00:41:06,202 --> 00:41:09,162 And I'm like, "Okay, okay, okay." 863 00:41:09,205 --> 00:41:10,816 ODB: We good to go. Come on. 864 00:41:10,946 --> 00:41:12,600 And then he put it in his pocket 865 00:41:12,774 --> 00:41:14,167 and he walked out the door and he got in the car. 866 00:41:14,297 --> 00:41:16,996 And I was like, "Wait! He left!" 867 00:41:17,126 --> 00:41:19,955 Why wouldn't you want to get free money? 868 00:41:19,999 --> 00:41:21,435 They ran that video over and over again. 869 00:41:21,522 --> 00:41:23,089 Everybody just loved it, I guess. 870 00:41:23,219 --> 00:41:26,092 I mean, but how could you be abusing the system 871 00:41:26,222 --> 00:41:29,051 when the system is already crooked and...up anyway? 872 00:41:29,182 --> 00:41:31,489 Besides, America owes the Black people 873 00:41:31,619 --> 00:41:33,447 forty acres and a mule, any...damn way. 874 00:41:33,578 --> 00:41:35,841 He called me drunk the night after it aired. 875 00:41:35,971 --> 00:41:38,887 He was fearful that social services 876 00:41:38,974 --> 00:41:41,020 were going to try and take his kids from him, 877 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:43,849 and he was extremely emotional. 878 00:41:45,459 --> 00:41:49,245 I think I was kind of pissed off at Touré. 879 00:41:49,376 --> 00:41:54,642 It's not media's responsibility to save you from yourself. 880 00:41:54,729 --> 00:41:57,036 I didn't tell him, "Go do that." 881 00:41:57,123 --> 00:41:59,212 That was his idea. 882 00:41:59,299 --> 00:42:01,388 I didn't tell him, "Give the money back." 883 00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:05,131 That's not my responsibility. He's a grown man. 884 00:42:05,261 --> 00:42:07,437 Icelene: That video kept coming back to haunt us. 885 00:42:07,568 --> 00:42:09,701 The whole New York government was against us. 886 00:42:09,831 --> 00:42:12,486 Bain: Particularly for Black folks who've come up out of Brooklyn 887 00:42:12,617 --> 00:42:14,575 written off as welfare queens and, you know, 888 00:42:14,662 --> 00:42:16,534 folks who could only be at the bottom of the bottom, 889 00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:18,536 that was liberating. He was so free. 890 00:42:18,666 --> 00:42:20,842 He was so free with who he was and comfortable in his own skin. 891 00:42:21,016 --> 00:42:23,628 It makes you feel a certain specialness. 892 00:42:23,715 --> 00:42:25,978 Carey: I think he brought so much 893 00:42:26,108 --> 00:42:28,197 personality and effervescence 894 00:42:28,284 --> 00:42:31,244 and just, like, "No F's given" energy. 895 00:42:31,374 --> 00:42:32,854 ♪ 896 00:42:32,985 --> 00:42:34,421 I was working on my album. 897 00:42:34,508 --> 00:42:35,857 I had already done the song "Fantasy," 898 00:42:35,988 --> 00:42:38,294 which samples the Tom Tom Club loop. 899 00:42:38,425 --> 00:42:40,819 I was surrounded by record-company people 900 00:42:40,949 --> 00:42:43,561 that really wanted me to be in one specific lane, 901 00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:46,433 which was a very successful lane for me, 902 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,394 but I had a love of hip-hop music since I was a kid. 903 00:42:51,525 --> 00:42:54,746 The SWV record had come out, with the whole Wu-Tang Clan 904 00:42:54,876 --> 00:42:56,312 right before that -- "Anything." 905 00:42:56,443 --> 00:42:58,140 ♪ Whoa, oh, oh 906 00:42:58,271 --> 00:43:01,187 ♪ Ol' Dirty Bas, style cuts like glass ♪ 907 00:43:01,317 --> 00:43:03,406 ♪ Gotta, gotta keep it high, power to the mass ♪ 908 00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:05,234 Carey: His voice in tandem with mine, 909 00:43:05,365 --> 00:43:06,932 they were so different from each other. 910 00:43:07,062 --> 00:43:08,455 People weren't expecting it. 911 00:43:08,542 --> 00:43:10,588 I went in, redid my parts. 912 00:43:10,762 --> 00:43:12,764 Then there was the session. 913 00:43:12,851 --> 00:43:14,853 I had no idea what he was gonna say. 914 00:43:14,983 --> 00:43:17,551 I had no idea what the rhyme was gonna be, at all. 915 00:43:17,682 --> 00:43:19,901 I'm, like, listening in on the phone. 916 00:43:19,988 --> 00:43:21,990 I remember this engineer, this poor guy. 917 00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:26,865 He was, like, this short, little Caucasian man. 918 00:43:26,952 --> 00:43:30,520 You know, really cool, nice guy, but wasn't ready for ODB. 919 00:43:30,651 --> 00:43:33,132 And he was like, "Yo, Devil, go get me --" 920 00:43:33,219 --> 00:43:34,612 [ Chuckles ] "Go get me this and that." 921 00:43:34,699 --> 00:43:36,657 I was on the phone like, "Oh, my God." 922 00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:38,311 A few more hours went by, he took a nap, 923 00:43:38,441 --> 00:43:40,182 and then it's on speakerphone. 924 00:43:40,269 --> 00:43:42,184 I'm listening. I'm dying. 925 00:43:42,315 --> 00:43:45,535 I'm sitting there like the giddiest kid on Earth. 926 00:43:45,579 --> 00:43:48,669 So happy. Basically jumping up and down on the bed, so happy. 927 00:43:48,756 --> 00:43:51,324 And then when he gets to the "me and Mariah" section, 928 00:43:51,454 --> 00:43:53,021 I'm flipping out even more. 929 00:43:53,152 --> 00:43:57,286 I'm like -- I can't even believe what this is. 930 00:43:57,417 --> 00:44:00,986 ♪ Me and Mariah go back like babies with pacifiers ♪ 931 00:44:01,073 --> 00:44:02,901 Ghostface: When I heard him on Mariah's... 932 00:44:03,031 --> 00:44:06,078 it was like, "Oh..." He knew how to do it. 933 00:44:06,208 --> 00:44:08,950 You got regular rap songs and rap all through the... 934 00:44:09,037 --> 00:44:11,213 But there's no moments in there. 935 00:44:11,344 --> 00:44:12,693 Know what I mean? 936 00:44:12,780 --> 00:44:14,695 His part is the moment. 937 00:44:14,782 --> 00:44:16,871 When we did the video, I had the concept 938 00:44:17,002 --> 00:44:18,960 at Rye Playland. Let's just shoot it there. 939 00:44:19,134 --> 00:44:20,570 Man: Welcome to the... 940 00:44:20,614 --> 00:44:22,268 Carey: In the pop version, the clown -- 941 00:44:22,355 --> 00:44:24,313 he's, like, leading you through the video. 942 00:44:24,444 --> 00:44:27,490 So I said to ODB, "What do you think about that clown -- 943 00:44:27,577 --> 00:44:30,972 if now you've tied him on this pole and, like, 944 00:44:31,059 --> 00:44:33,540 you've clearly taken over the moment?" 945 00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:35,629 And he was like, "Yo. That's peace, that's peace, that's peace." 946 00:44:35,803 --> 00:44:37,762 And I was like, "Okay, let's go." 947 00:44:37,849 --> 00:44:41,026 ♪ Yo, New York in the house 948 00:44:41,156 --> 00:44:43,245 ♪ It's Brooklyn in the house 949 00:44:43,332 --> 00:44:46,248 Carey: I love, love, love his performance in that video. 950 00:44:46,379 --> 00:44:50,165 Every single part of it was genius. 951 00:44:50,252 --> 00:44:53,865 The way he performed, he was free. 952 00:44:53,952 --> 00:44:58,304 He did stuff so spontaneously, like in the moment. 953 00:44:58,391 --> 00:44:59,871 He was in the moment. 954 00:45:00,001 --> 00:45:02,525 Even when he had the wig on 955 00:45:02,656 --> 00:45:04,440 and was, like, looking up in the sky with no shirt. 956 00:45:04,484 --> 00:45:06,529 Like, that was his thing. 957 00:45:06,616 --> 00:45:08,618 ♪ Me and Mariah go back like babies with pacifiers ♪ 958 00:45:08,749 --> 00:45:10,751 Carey: Not every hip-hop artist 959 00:45:10,925 --> 00:45:12,622 was playing Madison Square Garden. 960 00:45:12,753 --> 00:45:15,190 Backstage, we spent like 30 minutes 961 00:45:15,277 --> 00:45:17,453 taking pictures with him and, like, everybody in the family. 962 00:45:17,584 --> 00:45:20,718 He had maybe two dressing rooms 963 00:45:20,805 --> 00:45:26,767 full of family -- kids, lovely ladies. 964 00:45:26,854 --> 00:45:28,856 Lots of family. 965 00:45:28,987 --> 00:45:30,684 The record was, I believe, 966 00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:33,818 number one on the hip-hop charts for eight weeks. 967 00:45:33,905 --> 00:45:37,386 It was a big deal for us -- I think for us both. You know? 968 00:45:37,473 --> 00:45:39,867 Guesting on Mariah Carey's "Fantasy" 969 00:45:39,998 --> 00:45:44,176 catapulted him into a whole other level of awareness. 970 00:45:44,263 --> 00:45:48,049 People who may not have been hip-hop fans 971 00:45:48,136 --> 00:45:51,139 were hearing him for the first time. 972 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:53,315 It went to his head. 973 00:45:53,446 --> 00:45:55,187 I think he thought it was an opportunity 974 00:45:55,317 --> 00:45:58,625 for him to get to a next level that unfortunately, 975 00:45:58,712 --> 00:46:01,933 'cause of his self-sabotage, he did not get to. 976 00:46:10,898 --> 00:46:13,248 [ Indistinct conversations ] 977 00:46:13,335 --> 00:46:17,513 ♪♪ 978 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,472 [ Indistinct conversations ] 979 00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:22,518 [ Singing indistinctly ] 980 00:46:22,605 --> 00:46:27,959 ♪♪ 981 00:46:28,133 --> 00:46:32,833 Russell Jones didn't have time to kind of adjust. 982 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,662 Touré: Suddenly he has money, and he's spending a lot of it 983 00:46:35,836 --> 00:46:38,926 on stuff to make himself happy. 984 00:46:39,057 --> 00:46:42,538 There was just massive excitement around him. 985 00:46:42,669 --> 00:46:46,455 And you got to outdo yourself to be that guy. 986 00:46:46,542 --> 00:46:50,459 And he wanted to be that guy. 987 00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:53,985 Jacobson: Also, for him, he had a persona, 988 00:46:54,072 --> 00:46:57,597 and he kind of had to keep the persona going. 989 00:46:57,727 --> 00:47:00,948 He got pretty egotistical. 990 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:04,299 Some of his humility got pushed to the back burner. 991 00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:06,736 [ Crowd cheering ] 992 00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:11,350 ♪♪ 993 00:47:11,437 --> 00:47:14,222 Ghostface: He knew how to get women. 994 00:47:14,353 --> 00:47:16,181 He knew how to get 'em. He knew how to get 'em. 995 00:47:16,268 --> 00:47:19,358 He'd do the... that you would want to do 996 00:47:19,488 --> 00:47:21,490 but you were afraid to do it. 997 00:47:21,577 --> 00:47:23,318 MeToo would probably come and get Dirty 998 00:47:23,449 --> 00:47:25,755 for his troubling behavior. 999 00:47:25,886 --> 00:47:27,714 ♪ You give me your number, I'll call you up ♪ 1000 00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:29,716 True Master: I was driving with Dirty. 1001 00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:32,937 We at a light. And it's just ugly girls. 1002 00:47:33,024 --> 00:47:35,461 Well, then, she starts smiling, and he starts smiling. 1003 00:47:35,548 --> 00:47:36,941 Like, "Oh, baby, pull over." 1004 00:47:37,071 --> 00:47:39,813 Gets her number, talks to her. 1005 00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:44,644 Get in the car. I'm like, "That bitch was ugly as hell, God." 1006 00:47:44,731 --> 00:47:46,951 ♪ All the pretty girls in the world ♪ 1007 00:47:47,038 --> 00:47:48,953 ♪ And the ugly girls, too 1008 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,520 ♪ 'Cause to me you're pretty anyway, baby, heh ♪ 1009 00:47:51,564 --> 00:47:52,957 He says, "Sometimes ugly bitches -- 1010 00:47:53,087 --> 00:47:54,610 You'll have the time of your life." 1011 00:47:54,741 --> 00:47:56,699 [ Laughs ] 1012 00:47:56,830 --> 00:47:59,920 And I remember he controlled like 50 women at one time. 1013 00:48:00,007 --> 00:48:02,009 He came in the building with, like, a mom. 1014 00:48:02,096 --> 00:48:06,405 This was the power that he had. 1015 00:48:06,535 --> 00:48:08,102 Allen: He was a womanizer. 1016 00:48:08,233 --> 00:48:12,802 I didn't like how he treated my friend. 1017 00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:16,328 Icelene: One day, out of nowhere, a young girl knocked on my door. 1018 00:48:16,458 --> 00:48:20,027 She was like, "I can have your man and mines, too." 1019 00:48:20,158 --> 00:48:21,768 Raekwon: His wife, to me, was really 1020 00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:24,989 the only one that understood him. 1021 00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:27,208 But they would have they fights. 1022 00:48:27,382 --> 00:48:30,124 You know, his wife ain't no joke. She's a strong lady. 1023 00:48:30,255 --> 00:48:32,257 ♪ I ain't got no time for no mother...bitches ♪ 1024 00:48:32,344 --> 00:48:34,781 ♪ Calling my mother...house with that bull... ♪ 1025 00:48:34,868 --> 00:48:36,870 ♪ You got three...babies to take care of ♪ 1026 00:48:36,957 --> 00:48:38,393 ♪ ...that... 1027 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,439 Raekwon: If she suspected his ass, 1028 00:48:40,526 --> 00:48:43,398 she would prove it, kick his ass out. 1029 00:48:43,485 --> 00:48:47,228 So a lot of times Dirty didn't have 1030 00:48:47,272 --> 00:48:49,839 that support system no more because he was...up. 1031 00:48:49,927 --> 00:48:51,929 He messed with different girls. 1032 00:48:52,059 --> 00:48:54,192 All my friends and family know he's out there doing this stuff. 1033 00:48:54,322 --> 00:48:56,281 It was just real hard. 1034 00:48:56,411 --> 00:49:00,589 I got babies. Got one in the oven right there. See? See? 1035 00:49:00,676 --> 00:49:02,722 We're having a son real soon. 1036 00:49:02,852 --> 00:49:04,419 Taniqua: He was bringing different women over. 1037 00:49:04,506 --> 00:49:06,160 Very blunt. 1038 00:49:06,291 --> 00:49:08,467 "Here, Shaquita. I just had another baby." 1039 00:49:08,597 --> 00:49:13,602 ♪ 1040 00:49:13,689 --> 00:49:15,343 Icelene: I used to always threaten him. 1041 00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:17,345 I was like, "I'm not gonna be with you anymore. 1042 00:49:17,432 --> 00:49:20,740 I got three babies, and I'm just sick of this." 1043 00:49:20,827 --> 00:49:22,568 He had more money than I had. 1044 00:49:22,698 --> 00:49:24,744 He was like, "We're not getting a divorce." 1045 00:49:24,874 --> 00:49:28,400 Divorce? That's like when Moses parted the Red Sea. 1046 00:49:28,487 --> 00:49:29,967 You know what I mean? 1047 00:49:30,054 --> 00:49:32,056 But it had to come back together again. 1048 00:49:32,186 --> 00:49:34,797 You know? And it got to stay back together. 1049 00:49:34,884 --> 00:49:38,801 She was his. He was taking ownership of her. 1050 00:49:38,888 --> 00:49:42,805 He was -- [ Sighs ] cruel sometimes to her. 1051 00:49:52,163 --> 00:49:54,165 Icelene: I seen him in the car once with a girl -- 1052 00:49:54,252 --> 00:49:57,081 in my car, my Infiniti that he bought for me. 1053 00:49:57,211 --> 00:49:59,605 I went knocking on the window, and she rolled the window down 1054 00:49:59,735 --> 00:50:02,477 like this much, and I was like, "Where's my...husband at?!" 1055 00:50:02,564 --> 00:50:04,262 ♪♪ 1056 00:50:04,349 --> 00:50:05,611 I went without for a long time 1057 00:50:05,698 --> 00:50:07,308 and just struggled for a long time, 1058 00:50:07,395 --> 00:50:10,137 but I was done at that point. 1059 00:50:10,224 --> 00:50:12,096 Man: Your wife has said that you hadn't paid 1060 00:50:12,139 --> 00:50:14,054 a fair amount of child support. 1061 00:50:14,141 --> 00:50:17,144 Of course I pay child support. You know what I mean? 1062 00:50:17,231 --> 00:50:19,668 I mean, why wouldn't I? I love my wife. 1063 00:50:19,799 --> 00:50:22,454 [ Laughs ] 1064 00:50:22,541 --> 00:50:24,499 Yes, I love her, dearly. 1065 00:50:24,630 --> 00:50:28,025 [ Indistinct conversations ] 1066 00:50:28,112 --> 00:50:30,505 Ross: His name was Ol' Dirty Bastard. 1067 00:50:30,592 --> 00:50:32,681 He's living his life in public. 1068 00:50:32,768 --> 00:50:35,815 He was expected to do wild... 1069 00:50:35,945 --> 00:50:38,383 You know, do things like walk on the stage at the Grammys. 1070 00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:40,211 Announcer: It's music's biggest night! 1071 00:50:40,341 --> 00:50:42,996 The 40th Annual Grammy Awards! 1072 00:50:43,083 --> 00:50:44,519 We were all at my house, and he goes, 1073 00:50:44,650 --> 00:50:46,391 "How come you're not going?" I said, 1074 00:50:46,434 --> 00:50:48,436 "We lost already. They announced it at 3:00 or 4:00." 1075 00:50:48,567 --> 00:50:50,177 He got pissed, 1076 00:50:50,221 --> 00:50:52,962 was like, "I just spent $2,000 on a suit." 1077 00:50:53,093 --> 00:50:54,529 [ Imitates drumroll ] 1078 00:50:54,703 --> 00:50:56,966 Shawn Colvin and John Leventhal... 1079 00:50:57,097 --> 00:50:59,317 [ Cheers and applause ] 1080 00:50:59,447 --> 00:51:01,580 ♪ 1081 00:51:01,710 --> 00:51:03,756 ODB: Please turn it down. 1082 00:51:03,843 --> 00:51:07,586 The music and everything. Everything. 1083 00:51:07,673 --> 00:51:09,240 I went and bought this outfit today 1084 00:51:09,414 --> 00:51:10,937 that costed a lot of money today. 1085 00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:12,765 You know what I mean? 'Cause I figured 1086 00:51:12,895 --> 00:51:14,375 that Wu-Tang was gonna win. 1087 00:51:14,462 --> 00:51:16,638 Like, "Oh, my God. What is he doing?" 1088 00:51:16,725 --> 00:51:19,380 I didn't know how everyone else was gonna take it. 1089 00:51:19,467 --> 00:51:20,947 I don't know how y'all see it, 1090 00:51:21,121 --> 00:51:22,688 but when it comes to the children, 1091 00:51:22,775 --> 00:51:24,429 Wu-Tang is for the children. 1092 00:51:24,516 --> 00:51:26,344 We teach the children. You know what I mean? 1093 00:51:26,474 --> 00:51:30,087 Puffy is good, but Wu-Tang is the best, okay? 1094 00:51:30,217 --> 00:51:32,001 I want y'all to know that this is ODB 1095 00:51:32,132 --> 00:51:35,135 and I love you all! Peace! 1096 00:51:35,179 --> 00:51:38,007 He came back straight to the house, 1097 00:51:38,138 --> 00:51:40,227 and he said, "Am I gonna get in trouble?" 1098 00:51:40,314 --> 00:51:42,316 "No," I said, "You'll probably be 1099 00:51:42,403 --> 00:51:44,492 the biggest draw in the world for the next 48 hours." 1100 00:51:44,579 --> 00:51:46,581 That never left me -- 1101 00:51:46,668 --> 00:51:48,714 like, that statement and that moment. 1102 00:51:48,844 --> 00:51:50,585 I was just like... 1103 00:51:50,672 --> 00:51:52,631 He was a genius with those kind of moments 1104 00:51:52,718 --> 00:51:54,807 when everybody else was still scared. 1105 00:51:54,850 --> 00:51:56,939 After the Grammys, everybody was going crazy. 1106 00:51:57,070 --> 00:51:58,463 It worked. 1107 00:51:58,593 --> 00:52:00,117 U-God: It was plastered all over 1108 00:52:00,204 --> 00:52:03,120 every...news channel across America. 1109 00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:08,255 We got Ol' Dirty Bastard here. He was the big star of 1110 00:52:08,386 --> 00:52:10,301 the Grammys last night. Took over the whole...damn thing. 1111 00:52:10,344 --> 00:52:12,259 Yeah, wasn't even scheduled. 1112 00:52:12,390 --> 00:52:13,565 I didn't mean no disrespect. You know? I just had to -- 1113 00:52:13,652 --> 00:52:15,349 You had to say what you had to say. 1114 00:52:15,436 --> 00:52:17,830 I was actually looking out for all rap artists. 1115 00:52:17,917 --> 00:52:21,007 Jacobson: When he walked up on stage at the Grammys, 1116 00:52:21,094 --> 00:52:25,098 that was a bad look for a major label. 1117 00:52:25,229 --> 00:52:27,274 There was not a lot of keeping him in check. 1118 00:52:27,361 --> 00:52:30,495 Like, this is not how you can behave. 1119 00:52:30,625 --> 00:52:32,801 The label was concerned with business -- 1120 00:52:32,932 --> 00:52:35,064 making money from him and his career. 1121 00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:38,242 I don't know that they really cared about his well-being. 1122 00:52:38,329 --> 00:52:40,461 ♪♪ 1123 00:52:40,548 --> 00:52:42,768 Rifkind: He would literally come to my record-company office 1124 00:52:42,898 --> 00:52:44,857 twice a week -- with a record out, not a record out -- 1125 00:52:44,987 --> 00:52:46,598 so he could just relax. 1126 00:52:46,728 --> 00:52:48,643 I don't know if that was the drugs, the drinking, 1127 00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:51,646 the pressure of his wife, baby mama. 1128 00:52:51,733 --> 00:52:53,344 I thought it was some paranoia, 1129 00:52:53,474 --> 00:52:55,911 but he was really having real issues. 1130 00:52:55,998 --> 00:53:00,264 ODB: I need help. I need help. 1131 00:53:00,351 --> 00:53:01,830 The government is after me. 1132 00:53:01,917 --> 00:53:03,223 [ Giggles ] 1133 00:53:03,354 --> 00:53:05,007 Rifkind: Well, I call some people, 1134 00:53:05,138 --> 00:53:06,922 and that's when I realized 1135 00:53:07,009 --> 00:53:09,316 the cops -- they were definitely looking at him. 1136 00:53:44,177 --> 00:53:47,180 ♪ 1137 00:53:47,267 --> 00:53:50,575 Touré: NYPD had a task force 1138 00:53:50,705 --> 00:53:53,795 that we called the Hip-Hop Police. 1139 00:53:53,882 --> 00:53:55,710 They tried to keep tabs 1140 00:53:55,797 --> 00:53:58,278 on where all the rappers were going, 1141 00:53:58,365 --> 00:54:00,237 as if they were some 1142 00:54:00,411 --> 00:54:03,718 organized-crime syndicate or something. 1143 00:54:03,849 --> 00:54:05,894 Choke No Joke: If they know Ol' Dirty Bastard you got a show, 1144 00:54:05,981 --> 00:54:07,679 they gonna follow him from his house 1145 00:54:07,766 --> 00:54:09,463 and they're gonna pull him over 1146 00:54:09,594 --> 00:54:13,250 hoping to catch guns, this, that, and the other. 1147 00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:17,254 Dirt was one of them guys like, "Yo. The government is on us. 1148 00:54:17,341 --> 00:54:19,125 They gonna try to kill me like this. 1149 00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:20,909 They gonna try to kill me like that." 1150 00:54:20,996 --> 00:54:24,043 I didn't take it as really like... 1151 00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:26,175 Fernando: People think that Dirty was kind of crazy, 1152 00:54:26,306 --> 00:54:29,396 and drugs were making him paranoid or whatever, 1153 00:54:29,483 --> 00:54:32,399 but he actually did have a legitimate concern 1154 00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:34,227 that the feds were after him. 1155 00:54:34,358 --> 00:54:38,231 He knew that he was on the radar of law enforcement. 1156 00:54:38,318 --> 00:54:40,625 It turned out that he was correct. 1157 00:54:40,755 --> 00:54:45,717 There's a 95-page FBI file on Wu-Tang. 1158 00:54:45,804 --> 00:54:47,719 They were being investigated 1159 00:54:47,762 --> 00:54:50,591 for racketeering and gun-running and all this stuff. 1160 00:54:50,635 --> 00:54:52,811 And all of this came out years later. 1161 00:54:52,898 --> 00:54:56,336 They had been following Wu-Tang for years. 1162 00:54:56,423 --> 00:54:59,339 A generation ago, the counterintelligence program 1163 00:54:59,426 --> 00:55:01,472 did the same thing to the Black Panther Party, 1164 00:55:01,602 --> 00:55:03,996 the same thing to the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. 1165 00:55:04,083 --> 00:55:07,042 Did the same thing to Malcolm X, to Martin Luther King. 1166 00:55:07,173 --> 00:55:10,394 The Hip-Hop Police are the latest incarnation 1167 00:55:10,524 --> 00:55:13,266 of that surveilling influential Black folks 1168 00:55:13,397 --> 00:55:16,400 that might attract a following and doing whatever they can 1169 00:55:16,487 --> 00:55:19,490 to destroy those individuals and those organizations. 1170 00:55:19,664 --> 00:55:22,144 If you a Black man, you only got an opportunity to rise but so far. 1171 00:55:22,275 --> 00:55:25,017 They only give you so much power. Know what I'm saying? 1172 00:55:25,104 --> 00:55:27,149 But then they snatch it right out from under your feet. 1173 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,630 Dirt was ahead of his time on that... 1174 00:55:29,717 --> 00:55:33,547 Fernando: In the years 1998 to 1999, 1175 00:55:33,634 --> 00:55:36,724 he really started getting into trouble a lot. 1176 00:55:36,898 --> 00:55:38,813 All of these charges -- 1177 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,250 possession of drugs, petty larceny, 1178 00:55:41,294 --> 00:55:44,645 wearing a bulletproof vest. 1179 00:55:44,819 --> 00:55:46,821 You know, he was shot twice. 1180 00:55:46,908 --> 00:55:49,346 He had to drive himself to the hospital both times. 1181 00:55:49,433 --> 00:55:51,783 So, after that, he's kind of paranoid 1182 00:55:51,913 --> 00:55:55,743 that people are gunning for him. 1183 00:55:55,830 --> 00:55:58,006 When he started his career, the press, you know, 1184 00:55:58,137 --> 00:56:00,008 was very much on his side. 1185 00:56:00,095 --> 00:56:01,880 These same members of the press 1186 00:56:01,967 --> 00:56:06,711 covered his arrests and his drug use. 1187 00:56:06,841 --> 00:56:09,540 Let's go. Ain't nobody no mother... amateur here. Let's go. 1188 00:56:09,627 --> 00:56:13,108 I think he felt attacked. 1189 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,155 But I know that... 1190 00:56:16,285 --> 00:56:18,026 And I know that damn well 1191 00:56:18,113 --> 00:56:21,421 we are somepartying mother... 1192 00:56:21,552 --> 00:56:24,163 It's impossible to know what begets what. 1193 00:56:24,293 --> 00:56:26,600 If you don't like how you're being portrayed 1194 00:56:26,731 --> 00:56:30,778 and then you get high to lessen the negativity, 1195 00:56:30,865 --> 00:56:32,824 it's like a vicious cycle. 1196 00:56:32,954 --> 00:56:37,350 That can really color someone's self-image. 1197 00:56:37,481 --> 00:56:39,265 When I look back at that Howard Stern interview, 1198 00:56:39,439 --> 00:56:41,180 he was actually humble. 1199 00:56:41,310 --> 00:56:43,008 -Did you hear about that? -No. What happened? 1200 00:56:43,095 --> 00:56:44,749 You saved a little girl's life the other day, didn't you? 1201 00:56:44,879 --> 00:56:46,751 Yes. 1202 00:56:49,231 --> 00:56:50,972 Divine: It wasn't anything, like, special. 1203 00:56:51,059 --> 00:56:53,584 You know, it was a kid in trouble. You helped them. 1204 00:56:53,714 --> 00:56:55,586 Maati: It was a Saturday morning. 1205 00:56:55,629 --> 00:56:58,458 I was trying to teach my oldest sister how to shop. 1206 00:56:58,502 --> 00:57:01,461 I was a young child. I was only four years old. 1207 00:57:01,548 --> 00:57:04,246 They were standing in front of the van. 1208 00:57:04,333 --> 00:57:07,206 The car came from out of nowhere. 1209 00:57:07,336 --> 00:57:09,208 Divine: I was in the office. 1210 00:57:09,338 --> 00:57:11,384 You hear the collision. You hear the accident go on. 1211 00:57:11,515 --> 00:57:12,951 [ Glass shatters ] 1212 00:57:13,081 --> 00:57:14,474 Maati was nowhere. I couldn't find her. 1213 00:57:14,605 --> 00:57:16,171 And I kept saying, "Where's my daughter? 1214 00:57:16,302 --> 00:57:17,912 Where's my daughter? Where's my daughter?" 1215 00:57:18,043 --> 00:57:20,175 And everybody said, "Under the car." 1216 00:57:20,306 --> 00:57:23,004 When I bent down, all I saw was her. 1217 00:57:23,048 --> 00:57:25,485 And she wasn't crying. She wasn't screaming. 1218 00:57:25,572 --> 00:57:28,140 But when she saw me, then she screamed. 1219 00:57:28,227 --> 00:57:31,535 I remember, like, bits and pieces of the accident. 1220 00:57:31,578 --> 00:57:33,493 I remember the heat. 1221 00:57:33,580 --> 00:57:37,366 From out of nowhere, ODB lifted the car. 1222 00:57:37,454 --> 00:57:40,152 He's literally trying to lift up the car by himself immediately. 1223 00:57:40,239 --> 00:57:41,893 We help him lift the car, 1224 00:57:42,067 --> 00:57:44,678 and he brings the girl out from under the car. 1225 00:57:44,852 --> 00:57:46,463 She had a coat on, 1226 00:57:46,593 --> 00:57:50,336 and the coat was burned through, 1227 00:57:50,423 --> 00:57:53,992 and her leg was burnt. 1228 00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,690 I remember being rushed into the hospital. 1229 00:57:56,777 --> 00:57:58,866 [ Siren wails ] 1230 00:57:58,997 --> 00:58:01,521 Dirty went to the hospital to go check on the girl. 1231 00:58:01,608 --> 00:58:03,088 He kept checking. 1232 00:58:03,175 --> 00:58:05,394 He didn't just leave it like that. 1233 00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:07,875 And I told him, "Anytime you need to talk, call me." 1234 00:58:07,919 --> 00:58:10,182 So he would call me and tell me things 1235 00:58:10,312 --> 00:58:12,706 that were on his head, you know, and he was glad that he was there. 1236 00:58:12,793 --> 00:58:15,970 I think he was trying to prove that he was a good guy. 1237 00:58:16,057 --> 00:58:18,277 And I said, "I agree with that." 1238 00:58:18,364 --> 00:58:20,714 You definitely helped my child. 1239 00:58:20,845 --> 00:58:24,370 It shows what type of person he is, you know? 1240 00:58:24,457 --> 00:58:26,154 I got an album coming out. 1241 00:58:26,241 --> 00:58:27,678 It's called "The Black Man is God." 1242 00:58:27,808 --> 00:58:29,941 Next album. This is for the children. 1243 00:58:30,071 --> 00:58:32,683 Just make sure you get a good education, school. 1244 00:58:32,857 --> 00:58:34,380 You ain't got to tell your teacher off. 1245 00:58:34,467 --> 00:58:35,990 Tell that teacher off with education. 1246 00:58:36,121 --> 00:58:37,644 Know what I'm saying? Bomb his ass. 1247 00:58:37,731 --> 00:58:39,820 Know what I'm saying? White devil... 1248 00:58:39,907 --> 00:58:43,258 Yo, but, um, you know, when I say white devil, 1249 00:58:43,345 --> 00:58:46,479 I'm just saying that, you know, you got some good devils, you got some bad devils. 1250 00:58:46,653 --> 00:58:49,177 It's like you got some good Black men, you got some Black devil men. 1251 00:58:49,264 --> 00:58:51,615 Know what I'm saying? ...Black man is God. 1252 00:58:51,702 --> 00:58:53,878 We know that the white man came from the Black man. 1253 00:58:53,965 --> 00:58:56,663 So we created the devil. So we know that -- 1254 00:58:56,794 --> 00:58:58,752 [ Speaking indistinctly ] 1255 00:58:58,883 --> 00:59:02,321 Fernando: Dirty's second album was supposed to be 1256 00:59:02,451 --> 00:59:06,543 called "The Black Man is God, The White man is the Devil." 1257 00:59:06,673 --> 00:59:09,937 And, of course, the record company didn't allow that. 1258 00:59:10,068 --> 00:59:14,028 The second album was not nearly as popular. 1259 00:59:14,115 --> 00:59:16,901 He didn't promote it as heavily. 1260 00:59:17,031 --> 00:59:19,643 I don't think it sold very well. 1261 00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:24,038 We did interviews, but there wasn't the crossover press. 1262 00:59:24,082 --> 00:59:26,780 He almost became like a caricature. 1263 00:59:26,824 --> 00:59:33,178 ♪ 1264 00:59:33,308 --> 00:59:35,615 He's all over TV. He's everywhere. 1265 00:59:35,702 --> 00:59:38,183 Slowly but surely, he became somebody else 1266 00:59:38,357 --> 00:59:40,751 and he started living out Ol' Dirty Bastard 1267 00:59:40,838 --> 00:59:44,102 more than Unique Ason -- to me, in my eyes. 1268 00:59:45,799 --> 00:59:47,714 We can hear him, but we couldn't see him. 1269 00:59:47,845 --> 00:59:50,804 He became so distant sometimes that it's like, 1270 00:59:50,978 --> 00:59:53,111 "Dang, we hear our father through the radio 1271 00:59:53,198 --> 00:59:56,418 more than we can even share time with him." 1272 00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:59,987 ♪ 1273 01:00:00,074 --> 01:00:04,122 Aisha: I hated seeing him high. I hated that part. 1274 01:00:06,037 --> 01:00:09,301 He was still there, and he was still aware, of course, 1275 01:00:09,431 --> 01:00:12,173 but I hated seeing him like that. 1276 01:00:12,260 --> 01:00:13,958 ♪♪ 1277 01:00:14,045 --> 01:00:18,353 The drug use -- it took away my older brother 1278 01:00:18,484 --> 01:00:20,486 to a different place. 1279 01:00:20,617 --> 01:00:22,619 ♪ 1280 01:00:22,662 --> 01:00:25,883 I started to, like, grow a dislike 1281 01:00:25,970 --> 01:00:28,233 for my other cousins because... 1282 01:00:28,276 --> 01:00:33,455 ♪ 1283 01:00:33,586 --> 01:00:35,675 He was having a tough time 1284 01:00:35,806 --> 01:00:39,200 adapting to this new world that he's in. 1285 01:00:39,331 --> 01:00:41,028 Icelene: He was getting all this money and stuff. 1286 01:00:41,115 --> 01:00:42,595 And he was around people 1287 01:00:42,726 --> 01:00:44,466 that was getting high all the time. 1288 01:00:44,597 --> 01:00:46,468 Raekwon: He thought if you were getting high with him 1289 01:00:46,555 --> 01:00:48,209 and drinking with him or whatever 1290 01:00:48,296 --> 01:00:50,864 that you was his friend. 1291 01:00:50,951 --> 01:00:54,694 He was using weed all the time, smoking marijuana. 1292 01:00:54,781 --> 01:00:56,174 And it started from that. 1293 01:00:56,261 --> 01:00:57,828 And then he would mix cocaine with it. 1294 01:00:57,871 --> 01:00:59,612 Then it got to the point where he was mixing 1295 01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:01,875 crack cocaine with it. 1296 01:01:02,006 --> 01:01:04,269 Raekwon: He was looking at the Wu sideways. 1297 01:01:04,399 --> 01:01:07,098 He was probably looking at his own family members sideways. 1298 01:01:07,185 --> 01:01:09,317 He was looking at his circle 1299 01:01:09,404 --> 01:01:11,406 that he was hanging with sideways. 1300 01:01:11,493 --> 01:01:13,495 He didn't know who to trust anymore. 1301 01:01:13,582 --> 01:01:16,455 Everybody around him became a yes-man 1302 01:01:16,498 --> 01:01:18,239 because they're looking at what they could get from him. 1303 01:01:18,370 --> 01:01:20,372 They ain't looking at if they're hurting him. 1304 01:01:20,415 --> 01:01:22,766 They're only looking at, "If I need to ask Dirty with something, 1305 01:01:22,853 --> 01:01:24,245 he gonna give it to me." 1306 01:01:24,332 --> 01:01:25,507 Especially when he high. 1307 01:01:40,827 --> 01:01:42,960 [ Chuckles ] 1308 01:01:43,047 --> 01:01:45,397 Icelene: He needed help. I kept trying to get him in programs. 1309 01:01:45,484 --> 01:01:48,313 You know, he just didn't want -- he didn't want to do it. 1310 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,013 I think the drugs changed him mentally. 1311 01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:57,322 I don't know who that was sometimes. 1312 01:01:57,409 --> 01:02:00,891 Drugs took him out of him. Unique was lost. 1313 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:07,898 I don't know what I'm drinkin. 1314 01:02:22,129 --> 01:02:24,958 Raekwon: You ever heard that record "Sideshow"? 1315 01:02:25,045 --> 01:02:28,875 It's about a clown that makes everybody happy. 1316 01:02:29,006 --> 01:02:32,226 Every time I look at Dirty, I think about that record. 1317 01:02:32,313 --> 01:02:34,315 My man going through so much, 1318 01:02:34,446 --> 01:02:37,188 but to the world, he's that clown face. 1319 01:02:37,318 --> 01:02:40,321 When he's by himself, he's going through it. 1320 01:02:40,408 --> 01:02:42,584 ♪♪ 1321 01:02:42,715 --> 01:02:46,110 The label pivoted away because he became almost a liability. 1322 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,634 ♪ 1323 01:02:48,721 --> 01:02:50,549 Bain: He was cast aside 1324 01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:53,073 by the same folks who embraced him 1325 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,772 when he put his soul on the line through his music. 1326 01:02:57,948 --> 01:02:59,906 We know this country has had a love affair 1327 01:03:00,037 --> 01:03:02,300 with Black pain and suffering since its beginning. 1328 01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:05,912 Folks would gather around lynchings after church 1329 01:03:05,999 --> 01:03:08,480 to watch Black bodies hung from trees. 1330 01:03:10,221 --> 01:03:12,614 ODB was a part of that spectacle 1331 01:03:12,701 --> 01:03:14,486 of Black pain, of Black suffering. 1332 01:03:15,835 --> 01:03:17,402 Jacobson: They wanted to report on him 1333 01:03:17,445 --> 01:03:19,491 because it was kind of like a car crash. 1334 01:03:19,578 --> 01:03:20,971 You couldn't look away. 1335 01:03:21,101 --> 01:03:22,755 I'm just hearing these stories, 1336 01:03:22,886 --> 01:03:25,758 and the stories are coming fast and furious. 1337 01:03:25,932 --> 01:03:28,456 He broke into somebody's apartment at 3:00 a.m., 1338 01:03:28,587 --> 01:03:30,241 got shot. 1339 01:03:30,371 --> 01:03:32,721 Fernando Jr.: Dirty missed his court dates, 1340 01:03:32,852 --> 01:03:35,594 and he was put in rehab. 1341 01:03:35,681 --> 01:03:37,465 All of a sudden, it was in the news 1342 01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:41,774 that Dirty was on the run, that he had escaped from rehab. 1343 01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,776 Man: Let's make some noise... 1344 01:03:43,907 --> 01:03:45,560 [ Crowd cheering ] 1345 01:03:45,691 --> 01:03:47,954 Fernando Jr.: The Wu was giving a big concert. 1346 01:03:48,128 --> 01:03:49,521 ♪ 1347 01:03:49,608 --> 01:03:51,218 In the middle of the show, 1348 01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:52,872 RZA, like, quiets everything down. 1349 01:03:53,003 --> 01:03:55,309 He's like, "Yo, we got a special guest." 1350 01:03:55,396 --> 01:03:57,877 The first time in three years 1351 01:03:57,964 --> 01:04:01,881 we see the whole Wu-Tang Clan on stage tonight. 1352 01:04:02,012 --> 01:04:04,623 Raekwon: I could tell that he didn't want to be there. 1353 01:04:04,753 --> 01:04:08,148 He felt he had to because he didn't want to let us down. 1354 01:04:18,028 --> 01:04:21,335 [ Crowd cheers ] 1355 01:04:21,466 --> 01:04:23,772 Fernando Jr.: I think they caught him a couple days after that 1356 01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:25,949 at the McDonald's in Philly. 1357 01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:28,777 Apparently, one of the arresting officers was a fan of his, 1358 01:04:28,908 --> 01:04:31,258 so he knew it was ODB. 1359 01:04:31,345 --> 01:04:33,565 You know, what can you do when you're a superstar 1360 01:04:33,652 --> 01:04:35,654 and everyone knows that you're on the lam? 1361 01:04:35,741 --> 01:04:39,266 So they got him that time, unfortunately. 1362 01:04:39,397 --> 01:04:41,225 [ Cell door slams ] 1363 01:04:41,355 --> 01:04:44,315 ♪ 1364 01:04:44,445 --> 01:04:48,972 Bain: I think rehabilitation in prisons is a complete joke. 1365 01:04:49,059 --> 01:04:53,672 It's never truly been one of the goals. 1366 01:04:53,846 --> 01:04:58,372 I was charged with a felony and spent time in prison. 1367 01:04:58,459 --> 01:05:00,070 The feeling that I remember having 1368 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,810 is, like, constantly watching my back 1369 01:05:01,941 --> 01:05:04,901 and fearing for my life. 1370 01:05:04,988 --> 01:05:06,772 You just have no idea where you're going, 1371 01:05:06,859 --> 01:05:08,426 what's gonna happen. 1372 01:05:08,556 --> 01:05:10,558 ♪ 1373 01:05:10,645 --> 01:05:13,039 The sense of violation is what I felt 1374 01:05:13,213 --> 01:05:16,042 when these cops had their hands on me, 1375 01:05:16,173 --> 01:05:19,002 taking me into the facility and just moving me around. 1376 01:05:19,089 --> 01:05:21,308 ♪♪ 1377 01:05:21,395 --> 01:05:23,049 A lack of bodily autonomy, 1378 01:05:23,180 --> 01:05:27,401 lack of my own free will to do what I want to do. 1379 01:05:27,445 --> 01:05:30,274 They tell you to strip, and they tell you take off your clothes, 1380 01:05:30,404 --> 01:05:33,668 and they go through this whole ritual. 1381 01:05:33,755 --> 01:05:35,235 In a room full of folks, 1382 01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:36,802 being told to take your clothes off, 1383 01:05:36,889 --> 01:05:40,066 "Bend over, open your... lift your..." 1384 01:05:40,197 --> 01:05:42,721 I mean, it's some...up... 1385 01:05:42,808 --> 01:05:45,071 The brutality, the inhumanity, 1386 01:05:45,202 --> 01:05:48,248 how degrading and dehumanizing it is. 1387 01:05:48,379 --> 01:05:51,121 That never leaves you. You know? That stays with you. 1388 01:05:53,819 --> 01:05:55,995 Icelene: He's off the street now. 1389 01:05:56,126 --> 01:05:58,432 But jail is not a place for him to be. 1390 01:05:58,563 --> 01:06:01,131 He just needed help from the drugs, 1391 01:06:01,261 --> 01:06:02,959 and they were just putting him in jail. 1392 01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:05,744 Taniqua: He was in Clinton. 1393 01:06:05,831 --> 01:06:08,660 That's where rapists, murderers was at. 1394 01:06:08,747 --> 01:06:10,662 Y'all got this person that's self-medicating 1395 01:06:10,792 --> 01:06:13,317 and put him up here. 1396 01:06:13,447 --> 01:06:15,493 Icelene: It was just hard being without your husband. 1397 01:06:15,580 --> 01:06:17,234 We had to make it back and forth to see him. 1398 01:06:17,364 --> 01:06:19,279 I was working two jobs. 1399 01:06:19,410 --> 01:06:21,586 It affected me and my children a lot, 1400 01:06:21,716 --> 01:06:23,283 especially my oldest daughter. 1401 01:06:23,370 --> 01:06:26,199 She just wanted her dad to be home. 1402 01:06:26,286 --> 01:06:29,072 Once, when we went up there, he was just quiet. 1403 01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:30,987 He didn't say nothing. 1404 01:06:31,117 --> 01:06:33,119 He got up, and he went in the bathroom, 1405 01:06:33,293 --> 01:06:34,903 and he started screaming. 1406 01:06:34,991 --> 01:06:36,470 Just started screaming. 1407 01:06:39,299 --> 01:06:40,909 Being in prison, anything could happen, 1408 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:42,433 so I don't know what was going on with him. 1409 01:06:42,476 --> 01:06:44,304 Something was off. 1410 01:06:44,391 --> 01:06:47,264 ♪ Energy building, taking all types of medicines ♪ 1411 01:06:47,394 --> 01:06:49,701 ♪ Your ass thought you were better than Ason? ♪ 1412 01:06:49,831 --> 01:06:52,965 ♪ 1413 01:06:53,052 --> 01:06:54,880 True Master: He's complaining that they was injecting him 1414 01:06:54,967 --> 01:06:56,882 with...in jail. 1415 01:06:56,969 --> 01:07:00,625 Those drugs, you know, the so-called legal drugs, 1416 01:07:00,712 --> 01:07:02,061 ...him up, too. 1417 01:07:02,148 --> 01:07:03,758 We see over and over again 1418 01:07:03,889 --> 01:07:05,760 this range of mental-health drugs 1419 01:07:05,847 --> 01:07:08,546 used to sedate and control folks who are in prisons. 1420 01:07:08,633 --> 01:07:11,375 It's not by accident. It's by design. 1421 01:07:11,505 --> 01:07:13,942 He used to say, "People want to kill me in here. 1422 01:07:14,030 --> 01:07:15,770 The government is gonna kill me. 1423 01:07:15,814 --> 01:07:18,860 The correctional officers are gonna kill me." 1424 01:07:18,947 --> 01:07:22,473 Prison really added on that paranoia. 1425 01:07:22,516 --> 01:07:24,083 He shut down more. 1426 01:07:24,214 --> 01:07:26,346 The government finally got to him. 1427 01:07:26,433 --> 01:07:29,741 I heard that it was schizophrenic. 1428 01:07:29,915 --> 01:07:32,178 He ended up in the psych ward. 1429 01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:35,790 He had lit his back on fire just to get out of prison. 1430 01:07:35,921 --> 01:07:38,619 I feel like, for you to go that far, 1431 01:07:38,793 --> 01:07:42,188 you have to have some type of mental disorder. 1432 01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:44,843 Icelene: It was hard knowing that he was in there like that. 1433 01:07:44,930 --> 01:07:46,758 He always knew that we were home 1434 01:07:46,845 --> 01:07:48,586 'cause the only real grounding he had 1435 01:07:48,673 --> 01:07:52,285 was what he made with me and those children. 1436 01:07:52,459 --> 01:07:54,418 He didn't want to come back into the industry. 1437 01:07:54,505 --> 01:07:56,202 He didn't want to be a rapper anymore. 1438 01:07:56,333 --> 01:07:58,378 He didn't want to come back to music. 1439 01:07:58,465 --> 01:08:00,424 I was surprised when he came back. 1440 01:08:13,001 --> 01:08:14,829 Fernando Jr.: Dirty did three years upstate 1441 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,136 at the Clinton facility. 1442 01:08:17,223 --> 01:08:20,008 He basically had to set himself on fire 1443 01:08:20,139 --> 01:08:22,881 to get into solitary confinement. 1444 01:08:28,974 --> 01:08:32,499 Ross: He had one commodity -- himself. 1445 01:08:32,630 --> 01:08:37,374 So his only ways to make money were to try to make music. 1446 01:08:39,202 --> 01:08:42,379 I'm not even working for Roc-A-Fella on this day. 1447 01:08:42,466 --> 01:08:44,555 I just know that Ol' Dirty Bastard's coming home from jail. 1448 01:08:44,598 --> 01:08:46,296 I'm gonna get that footage. 1449 01:08:46,426 --> 01:08:50,212 [ Indistinct conversations ] 1450 01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:54,086 A white guy named Jarred was managing Ol' Dirty Bastard. 1451 01:08:54,216 --> 01:08:56,131 I don't know how, 1452 01:08:56,261 --> 01:09:00,397 but Jarred and Dame talked about signing Ol' Dirty Bastard. 1453 01:09:00,484 --> 01:09:02,312 [ Indistinct conversations ] 1454 01:09:05,314 --> 01:09:07,099 Funkmaster Flex: Dame Dash and Roc-A-Fella 1455 01:09:07,185 --> 01:09:09,580 was the worst thing to ever happen to that guy. 1456 01:09:09,667 --> 01:09:12,017 Ol' Dirty was a trophy to them. 1457 01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:13,758 ♪ 1458 01:09:18,502 --> 01:09:20,852 I got to introduce myself? 1459 01:09:20,939 --> 01:09:23,376 I'm used to getting the introduction. 1460 01:09:23,462 --> 01:09:25,029 You know. I'm Damon Dash. 1461 01:09:25,203 --> 01:09:27,554 I always wanted to work with Wu-Tang. 1462 01:09:27,598 --> 01:09:31,470 When the opportunity presented itself, I capitalized. 1463 01:09:31,558 --> 01:09:33,908 Choke No Joke: Dame is trying to build 1464 01:09:33,995 --> 01:09:37,216 the roster for Roc-A-Fella. 1465 01:09:37,346 --> 01:09:40,219 All Dame thinking about is "publicity." 1466 01:09:40,305 --> 01:09:42,787 He signed M.O.P., N.O.R.E. 1467 01:09:42,917 --> 01:09:45,050 He trying to get Twista. He just signed Kanye. 1468 01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:46,660 Dash: I was just trying to speak 1469 01:09:46,747 --> 01:09:49,488 in every single language that anybody spoke. 1470 01:09:49,620 --> 01:09:51,055 It was, like, diversifying. 1471 01:09:51,187 --> 01:09:53,014 It was a different language and lingo. 1472 01:09:53,145 --> 01:09:54,712 With MC in the back, we're not allowed to talk about it. 1473 01:09:54,799 --> 01:09:56,279 I don't know why. You know what I'm saying? 1474 01:09:56,409 --> 01:09:58,498 Carey: Dame called me. 1475 01:09:58,585 --> 01:10:00,283 He's like, "I really need you to go with me to pick him up. 1476 01:10:00,370 --> 01:10:03,416 Like, this is an important moment, and let's do this." 1477 01:10:03,503 --> 01:10:06,332 And I'm like, "Yeah, you don't have to ask me more than once. 1478 01:10:06,463 --> 01:10:07,812 I got it. Let's go." 1479 01:10:07,899 --> 01:10:09,988 [ Indistinct conversations ] 1480 01:10:10,075 --> 01:10:12,382 Choke No Joke: He's surprised by Mariah Carey's presence, 1481 01:10:12,425 --> 01:10:14,471 surprised by Dame's presence. 1482 01:10:14,558 --> 01:10:17,474 He has no clue what's going on. 1483 01:10:17,517 --> 01:10:20,128 He don't even know that he's signing to Roc-A-Fella. 1484 01:10:20,259 --> 01:10:21,565 Jarred! 1485 01:10:21,739 --> 01:10:23,175 What -- Who -- 1486 01:10:23,306 --> 01:10:26,613 Damon Dash. What's the deal with that? 1487 01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:27,962 You going to him now. 1488 01:10:28,049 --> 01:10:30,008 Man: He's in front of us. 1489 01:10:30,138 --> 01:10:32,097 I'm saying -- So --You're going to a restaurant right now. 1490 01:10:32,140 --> 01:10:33,794 You planning a surprise or something? [ Laughs ] 1491 01:10:33,838 --> 01:10:36,667 Woman: Yeah. 1492 01:10:36,754 --> 01:10:40,671 He was like a different person when we picked him up that day. 1493 01:10:40,758 --> 01:10:42,368 [ Indistinct conversations ] 1494 01:10:42,499 --> 01:10:45,632 I felt, like, this confusion/sadness 1495 01:10:45,719 --> 01:10:47,547 coming from him. 1496 01:10:47,591 --> 01:10:50,158 [ Indistinct conversations ] 1497 01:10:50,289 --> 01:10:51,725 You know I got to do it official, give him a chain. 1498 01:10:51,856 --> 01:10:54,162 He can't go home without that. 1499 01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:56,469 [ Cheers and applause ] 1500 01:10:56,513 --> 01:10:59,516 "I'm down with Roc-A-Fella. Yeah, I'm rolling with Damon." 1501 01:10:59,646 --> 01:11:02,214 They don't give a... about Ol' Dirty Bastard. 1502 01:11:02,258 --> 01:11:03,650 It was a business deal. 1503 01:11:03,781 --> 01:11:07,524 [ Cheers and applause ] 1504 01:11:07,698 --> 01:11:09,787 Next question.Man: Right here. 1505 01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:13,225 Dame personally signed Ol' Dirty Bastard 1506 01:11:13,356 --> 01:11:16,010 and gave him a million dollars out his own pocket. 1507 01:11:16,141 --> 01:11:17,969 A million dollars isn't a lot of money. 1508 01:11:18,056 --> 01:11:19,623 I think he deserved more. 1509 01:11:19,753 --> 01:11:21,102 You know, based on the records he sold, 1510 01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:23,104 we would make that back -- let's go. 1511 01:11:23,191 --> 01:11:26,151 I don't know whose idea it was to sign him. 1512 01:11:26,325 --> 01:11:28,849 You know, if you care about somebody, 1513 01:11:28,936 --> 01:11:32,418 you know you couldn't give this guy a million dollars. 1514 01:11:32,505 --> 01:11:34,594 Icelene: The million dollars is a mystery. 1515 01:11:34,725 --> 01:11:38,032 Me and my children never received a dime of that money. 1516 01:11:38,163 --> 01:11:41,340 My husband had no idea what happened to the funds. 1517 01:11:41,427 --> 01:11:44,343 I wish they would have used some of that money 1518 01:11:44,387 --> 01:11:46,780 to put him in rehab, to get him some help. 1519 01:11:46,911 --> 01:11:48,434 He was living with my mother-in-law, 1520 01:11:48,521 --> 01:11:50,741 like, basically sleeping on her couch. 1521 01:11:50,871 --> 01:11:55,180 And he was back in the same environment, doing drugs. 1522 01:11:55,311 --> 01:11:58,226 Ross: You know, Dirty was, I think, just trying to feed his family. 1523 01:11:58,357 --> 01:12:00,620 But from what I saw, the show "ODB on Parole" -- 1524 01:12:00,751 --> 01:12:03,580 that felt exploitive to me. 1525 01:12:03,710 --> 01:12:05,495 Narrator: This is the story of Russell Jones, 1526 01:12:05,625 --> 01:12:07,975 a.k.a. Ol' Dirty Bastard. 1527 01:12:08,062 --> 01:12:10,238 '02, '03, '04, the game had changed. 1528 01:12:10,326 --> 01:12:12,371 The reality-TV shows, 1529 01:12:12,502 --> 01:12:15,156 people giving up more of their life. 1530 01:12:15,287 --> 01:12:18,899 Come on, Jarred. [ Laughs ] 1531 01:12:18,986 --> 01:12:21,075 Narrator: While he waited for his parole hearing, 1532 01:12:21,162 --> 01:12:22,555 he met Jarred Weisfeld, 1533 01:12:22,686 --> 01:12:26,037 a 23-year-old aspiring hip-hop manager. 1534 01:12:26,167 --> 01:12:28,648 Jarred has done everything. Everything. 1535 01:12:28,779 --> 01:12:30,737 Without Jarred, I don't know -- I don't know. 1536 01:12:30,868 --> 01:12:36,134 I am his co-manager -- with his mom, Cherry. 1537 01:12:36,264 --> 01:12:38,049 Icelene: Jarred didn't know who Unique was. 1538 01:12:38,136 --> 01:12:41,182 Jarred just knew who ODB was after coming out of jail. 1539 01:12:41,269 --> 01:12:43,837 He only knew him for a few months. 1540 01:12:43,924 --> 01:12:45,883 He ain't know him long at all. 1541 01:12:50,583 --> 01:12:53,978 Nobody had a conversation with Wu-Tang. 1542 01:12:54,065 --> 01:12:56,502 We didn't know what was going on. 1543 01:12:56,589 --> 01:13:00,593 So when he came out and he wanted to sign to Roc-A-Fella, 1544 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,161 it was almost like... 1545 01:13:03,291 --> 01:13:05,903 "Hm. He feel a way." 1546 01:13:06,033 --> 01:13:07,948 ♪ 1547 01:13:08,035 --> 01:13:10,081 Ghostface: Dirt was the soul. I mean, he was the soul. 1548 01:13:10,168 --> 01:13:12,344 Out of the whole group, he was the soul. 1549 01:13:12,475 --> 01:13:15,391 And when he left, it was a big loss for us. 1550 01:13:15,521 --> 01:13:17,784 Big, big, big, big, big, big, big. 1551 01:13:17,871 --> 01:13:20,004 I wasn't even mad at him. 1552 01:13:20,091 --> 01:13:25,270 I felt like... us as a group let him down. 1553 01:13:25,357 --> 01:13:27,881 We wasn't there the way we was supposed to be there. 1554 01:13:27,968 --> 01:13:34,758 ♪♪ 1555 01:13:34,845 --> 01:13:37,238 How you live your life is how you live your life. 1556 01:13:37,325 --> 01:13:42,330 ♪♪ 1557 01:13:42,461 --> 01:13:45,290 Drugs was getting him at that time. 1558 01:13:45,377 --> 01:13:48,641 I know that face, know that little twitch. 1559 01:13:48,728 --> 01:13:51,252 I saw him a couple times, man. He didn't feel like him. 1560 01:13:51,383 --> 01:13:53,777 He had put on a lot of weight. 1561 01:13:53,864 --> 01:13:57,476 I never thought anything was gonna happen to him, though. 1562 01:13:57,563 --> 01:13:59,652 Choke No Joke: I went to the MTV Awards with him. 1563 01:13:59,783 --> 01:14:01,741 It was his first time seeing Method Man. 1564 01:14:03,961 --> 01:14:06,050 And I could tell, looking at Meth, 1565 01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:09,662 he saw that his brother wasn't the same brother. 1566 01:14:09,793 --> 01:14:11,359 It was like he was kissing a baby, 1567 01:14:11,490 --> 01:14:12,883 like his little brother. 1568 01:14:13,013 --> 01:14:15,581 It wasn't a grown man. 1569 01:14:15,712 --> 01:14:18,497 Yeah, he -- he was hurt. Yeah. I'm about to cry. 1570 01:14:18,584 --> 01:14:21,892 [ Indistinct shouting ] 1571 01:14:22,022 --> 01:14:23,850 Chang: The last time I saw Ason, 1572 01:14:23,981 --> 01:14:26,462 probably one of the... experiences of my life. 1573 01:14:27,724 --> 01:14:31,510 I was at the 36 Chambers Studio on 34th. 1574 01:14:31,641 --> 01:14:33,164 They were like, "Soph, Dirty's here." 1575 01:14:33,251 --> 01:14:34,861 I was like, "Word?" 1576 01:14:34,992 --> 01:14:38,735 Sat down. I just waited for him to come out. 1577 01:14:38,865 --> 01:14:41,259 He comes out of the bathroom, 1578 01:14:41,346 --> 01:14:44,349 and he kind of looks at me... 1579 01:14:44,436 --> 01:14:46,046 and then just keeps going. 1580 01:14:46,133 --> 01:14:48,875 ♪♪ 1581 01:14:48,919 --> 01:14:54,794 He was so high, he didn't...recognize me. 1582 01:14:54,881 --> 01:14:59,103 I left and I got in a cab and I called the studio. 1583 01:14:59,277 --> 01:15:03,673 And whoever picked up the phone, I said, "Dirty's high. 1584 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,632 He's...high. 1585 01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:09,243 It's not okay. It's not okay." 1586 01:15:09,374 --> 01:15:11,419 And it was so upsetting. 1587 01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:14,945 ♪♪ 1588 01:15:15,075 --> 01:15:19,079 Raekwon: "Rock the Bells" was a big show for us. 1589 01:15:19,166 --> 01:15:22,387 We knew how important it was for all of us to be there. 1590 01:15:22,474 --> 01:15:25,259 -Turn the lights down! -Turn the lights off! 1591 01:15:25,390 --> 01:15:28,436 He wouldn't come out the room that day. He wouldn't come out the room. 1592 01:15:28,567 --> 01:15:31,004 I remember him up there on stage with us. 1593 01:15:31,091 --> 01:15:33,137 I think parts of him were just feeling like, 1594 01:15:33,311 --> 01:15:34,965 "Why the...am I up here?" 1595 01:15:35,095 --> 01:15:38,490 'Cause he realized the group that he helped become 1596 01:15:38,621 --> 01:15:41,449 one of the greatest groups in the world -- 1597 01:15:41,537 --> 01:15:43,147 He didn't feel the love back. 1598 01:15:43,234 --> 01:15:45,671 [ Vocalizing ] 1599 01:15:45,845 --> 01:15:53,505 ♪ 1600 01:15:53,636 --> 01:15:55,812 Choke No Joke: None of us really knew him like that, 1601 01:15:55,899 --> 01:15:58,336 to tell him to do anything. 1602 01:15:58,466 --> 01:16:01,426 He definitely needed family. 1603 01:16:01,557 --> 01:16:04,647 He was in it because he loved it. 1604 01:16:04,734 --> 01:16:06,213 People that love it like that, 1605 01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:10,217 sometime they don't see that cleaver coming. 1606 01:16:19,357 --> 01:16:21,228 You know, everybody else in the family remembers 1607 01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:23,317 times they spent with their pops. 1608 01:16:23,404 --> 01:16:26,582 I only remember the nightmare, the last night I seen him. 1609 01:16:26,712 --> 01:16:29,454 That's the only real thing I remember. 1610 01:16:29,541 --> 01:16:33,066 Taniqua: I was at my father's sister's house, 1611 01:16:33,153 --> 01:16:35,634 and my cousin got a phone call 1612 01:16:35,765 --> 01:16:37,723 from her mom saying, "Come home." 1613 01:16:37,810 --> 01:16:40,726 I just had this intuition that something happened to my father. 1614 01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:43,642 Like, I don't know why, but I had this intuition. 1615 01:16:43,729 --> 01:16:45,470 I just started running. 1616 01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:48,081 Icelene: Unique was working on his last album, 1617 01:16:48,168 --> 01:16:51,128 and Bar-Sun was in the studio with Unique. 1618 01:16:51,171 --> 01:16:53,652 Right after he left the studio, Bar-Sun got a call, and it was 1619 01:16:53,739 --> 01:16:56,002 like, "We're trying to resuscitate him and everything." 1620 01:16:56,089 --> 01:16:58,570 He's like, "What is going on? He was just alive." 1621 01:16:58,701 --> 01:16:59,919 Taniqua: I was sprinting. 1622 01:17:00,050 --> 01:17:01,747 So, it was about a two-block run, 1623 01:17:01,834 --> 01:17:03,793 and it was really long blocks in Brooklyn. 1624 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:05,838 And then I turned a corner, and I seen my brother outside 1625 01:17:05,969 --> 01:17:08,232 slumped over but crying, and I'm like, 1626 01:17:08,362 --> 01:17:10,016 "Bar-Sun, what happened? Bar-Sun, what happened?" 1627 01:17:10,190 --> 01:17:13,150 The only thing he could get out was, "Daddy." 1628 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,586 Icelene: My son called me. 1629 01:17:14,673 --> 01:17:16,283 He said, "Daddy is not doing so good. 1630 01:17:16,327 --> 01:17:17,850 They're trying to keep him alive. 1631 01:17:17,981 --> 01:17:19,678 They're trying to resuscitate him." 1632 01:17:19,765 --> 01:17:21,462 And he's not doing so good. He might not make it." 1633 01:17:21,549 --> 01:17:26,337 ♪♪ 1634 01:17:26,424 --> 01:17:28,992 All I'm thinking is, he's gonna be alive 1635 01:17:29,122 --> 01:17:31,298 'cause he's so strong and he always get out of everything. 1636 01:17:31,385 --> 01:17:35,259 He's like a person that has nine lives. 1637 01:17:35,346 --> 01:17:39,089 It was dark. It was raining. It was just not a good night. 1638 01:17:39,176 --> 01:17:42,005 Taniqua: We get there, and I remember so much ambulance. 1639 01:17:42,092 --> 01:17:46,618 You could see cops, detectives outside. 1640 01:17:46,749 --> 01:17:49,926 Go into the studio, it was a whole crowd of people. 1641 01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:51,928 Like, all my family members. 1642 01:17:52,102 --> 01:17:54,104 And I see a white sock on the floor. 1643 01:17:54,234 --> 01:17:56,497 So I already automatically knew that was my father. 1644 01:17:56,584 --> 01:17:59,283 Raekwon: I was driving from Staten Island, 1645 01:17:59,326 --> 01:18:01,546 and I remember getting the call. 1646 01:18:01,677 --> 01:18:03,766 That...broke my heart when I tell you. 1647 01:18:03,853 --> 01:18:06,377 I pulled over on the bridge. 1648 01:18:06,507 --> 01:18:08,335 Tears was just running down my face. 1649 01:18:08,422 --> 01:18:09,989 Like, I couldn't believe it, man. 1650 01:18:10,033 --> 01:18:13,210 I ran up to the studio. 1651 01:18:13,340 --> 01:18:15,168 Seen him laid out on the floor. 1652 01:18:15,342 --> 01:18:23,046 ♪ 1653 01:18:23,133 --> 01:18:24,787 Ghostface: I'm in shock. Like, yo, it's my brother. 1654 01:18:24,917 --> 01:18:26,484 You know what I mean? 1655 01:18:26,571 --> 01:18:28,704 I walk over to him, look at him. 1656 01:18:28,791 --> 01:18:32,055 ♪♪ 1657 01:18:32,185 --> 01:18:34,971 I was there till they took him out the building. 1658 01:18:35,058 --> 01:18:36,973 Icelene: He was laid there, and most of the Clan members 1659 01:18:37,103 --> 01:18:39,236 were around, a lot of family. 1660 01:18:39,366 --> 01:18:41,978 They were trying to stop people from actually going to his body. 1661 01:18:42,065 --> 01:18:46,286 I'm trying to jump over the police, go under the legs. 1662 01:18:46,417 --> 01:18:48,158 I'm trying to crawl, and they're pulling me back. 1663 01:18:48,245 --> 01:18:50,334 They let us through, but they held Bar-Sun 1664 01:18:50,464 --> 01:18:51,857 'cause Bar-Sun was going crazy. 1665 01:18:51,988 --> 01:18:53,990 [Voice breaking] He was -- 1666 01:18:54,033 --> 01:18:56,644 That's emotional 'cause... 1667 01:18:56,732 --> 01:18:59,169 he was trying his hardest to get to his father. 1668 01:18:59,256 --> 01:19:01,562 But he was just, like, really just acting out real crazy 1669 01:19:01,649 --> 01:19:02,999 like he wanted to fight everybody. 1670 01:19:03,086 --> 01:19:04,565 He was going crazy. 1671 01:19:04,652 --> 01:19:06,524 You know, I didn't know why I was mad. 1672 01:19:06,654 --> 01:19:08,961 A child is really not gonna know why they're mad. 1673 01:19:09,048 --> 01:19:12,225 They just know and feel that there's something wrong. 1674 01:19:12,356 --> 01:19:14,314 This is just...up. 1675 01:19:14,445 --> 01:19:16,795 You know, to see his father laying there like this 1676 01:19:16,882 --> 01:19:19,972 and knowing that it could have probably been prevented. 1677 01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:22,670 You know, I guess I was ready to fight everybody 1678 01:19:22,801 --> 01:19:25,586 because he was only one laying on the floor 1679 01:19:25,673 --> 01:19:28,372 and nobody was there to pick him up. 1680 01:19:28,502 --> 01:19:31,027 I laid down with him, and I just rubbed his head. 1681 01:19:31,114 --> 01:19:33,856 Teardrops falling off me, falling onto his cold body. 1682 01:19:33,986 --> 01:19:37,033 And then my mom was on the other side of him laying down, 1683 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,080 screaming, saying, "Unique, Unique, wake up." 1684 01:19:41,167 --> 01:19:42,821 I just figured if I could yell 1685 01:19:42,908 --> 01:19:44,867 he could hear me and he'll wake up. 1686 01:19:44,910 --> 01:19:46,346 We was hitting on him and trying to pull him up and everything. 1687 01:19:46,477 --> 01:19:48,218 He just wouldn't get up. 1688 01:19:48,392 --> 01:19:50,960 And they kept saying, "Miss Jones, you know... 1689 01:19:51,090 --> 01:19:53,223 Excuse me. You can't -- You know, he's not coming back." 1690 01:19:53,353 --> 01:19:55,616 And I'm like, "No, he's gonna come back. He's gonna wake up. 1691 01:19:55,703 --> 01:19:57,314 And we just didn't want to leave the floor. 1692 01:19:57,444 --> 01:19:59,969 We kept trying to get him up. 1693 01:20:00,099 --> 01:20:02,798 Taniqua: I just looked up, and I looked at everybody, 1694 01:20:02,972 --> 01:20:04,712 and I just remember nobody crying. 1695 01:20:04,843 --> 01:20:07,237 Just us. Just us crying. 1696 01:20:07,367 --> 01:20:10,196 I just -- I was just mad 'cause everybody just sitting here. 1697 01:20:10,327 --> 01:20:12,546 I didn't understand why nobody else was crying. 1698 01:20:12,633 --> 01:20:15,375 ♪♪ 1699 01:20:15,506 --> 01:20:19,423 After it really sunk in, that he wasn't getting up, 1700 01:20:19,510 --> 01:20:21,729 we -- we got up. 1701 01:20:21,817 --> 01:20:24,515 And me and Taniqua, we was, like, yelling at everybody, 1702 01:20:24,602 --> 01:20:26,125 like, "...all you... 1703 01:20:26,212 --> 01:20:28,040 Everybody who sat and got high with him, 1704 01:20:28,127 --> 01:20:31,696 who...took money out his pocket, who allowed him 1705 01:20:31,739 --> 01:20:33,916 to stay away from his family while y'all got high. 1706 01:20:34,003 --> 01:20:35,700 He didn't want to come home 1707 01:20:35,787 --> 01:20:37,136 'cause he knew y'all would...get high with him. 1708 01:20:37,267 --> 01:20:39,008 ...all y'all... ...all y'all. 1709 01:20:39,138 --> 01:20:40,574 I don't want nobody coming around me and my children. 1710 01:20:40,705 --> 01:20:42,881 ...y'all. I ain't got no time for this... 1711 01:20:43,055 --> 01:20:45,144 'Cause that's all y'all want, is just to see him...high. 1712 01:20:45,275 --> 01:20:47,146 And now look where he at. 1713 01:20:47,277 --> 01:20:49,714 Now he can't give none of y'all...'cause he gone now." 1714 01:20:55,111 --> 01:21:02,205 ♪ 1715 01:21:20,614 --> 01:21:23,313 Right now I just feel I've been robbed. Know what I'm saying? 1716 01:21:23,443 --> 01:21:25,271 Hoodwinked. Bamboozled. 1717 01:21:25,402 --> 01:21:27,099 They stole something that I love so much. 1718 01:21:27,230 --> 01:21:28,796 Seem like everything I loved always been -- 1719 01:21:28,927 --> 01:21:31,887 always be tooken away from me. 1720 01:21:42,941 --> 01:21:47,467 Carey: My friend and myself went to the funeral together. 1721 01:21:47,554 --> 01:21:48,904 [ Breathes deeply ] 1722 01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:52,211 It was deep. It was very -- 1723 01:21:52,342 --> 01:21:54,344 It was difficult. 1724 01:21:54,474 --> 01:21:58,000 Raekwon: It was surreal to see him laying in a casket. 1725 01:21:58,087 --> 01:22:00,350 You know, you had brothers in there drunk, too. 1726 01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,440 You know what I mean? You know, that's how they was coming. 1727 01:22:03,527 --> 01:22:05,181 You know what I mean? Pouring...on the floor. 1728 01:22:05,268 --> 01:22:07,226 Pouring liquor on the floor. 1729 01:22:07,313 --> 01:22:09,663 It's like, "Yo. Come on, bro. Chill. Like, please, man. 1730 01:22:09,750 --> 01:22:12,449 Like, stop. Not right now." 1731 01:22:12,579 --> 01:22:15,234 ♪ 1732 01:22:15,321 --> 01:22:18,368 You know, he was the only artist that ever died on my watch, 1733 01:22:18,455 --> 01:22:21,110 so that was the first time I ever had to deal with that. 1734 01:22:32,643 --> 01:22:34,123 I'd squeeze him. I'd hug him. 1735 01:22:34,297 --> 01:22:36,777 I'd...kiss him all over his...face. 1736 01:22:36,908 --> 01:22:40,651 I'd probably sit there and cry and wouldn't let him go. 1737 01:22:42,435 --> 01:22:44,611 I might fall asleep next to you. You know what I mean? 1738 01:22:44,655 --> 01:22:47,701 Like, yo, that's what it is when you love somebody like that. 1739 01:22:47,788 --> 01:22:50,530 You love somebody like -- My love was like that for him. 1740 01:22:50,661 --> 01:22:52,837 It was strong. 1741 01:23:11,725 --> 01:23:13,510 [ Applause ] 1742 01:23:35,271 --> 01:23:37,055 [ Applause ] 1743 01:23:37,186 --> 01:23:42,539 ♪ 1744 01:23:46,804 --> 01:23:50,938 Icelene: I'm pushing real hard to keep the legacy going. 1745 01:23:51,026 --> 01:23:52,897 That's all I think about every day. 1746 01:23:53,028 --> 01:23:57,597 ♪ 1747 01:23:57,728 --> 01:23:59,773 Taniqua: He's immortal. That's how I feel. 1748 01:23:59,904 --> 01:24:01,688 I feel like my father's immortal. 1749 01:24:01,819 --> 01:24:04,952 And he's never gonna die. 1750 01:24:05,083 --> 01:24:09,044 His soul, his spirit, his essence, his aura. 1751 01:24:09,174 --> 01:24:12,221 It flows around everybody. 1752 01:24:12,351 --> 01:24:14,440 Chang: He was outrageously talented. 1753 01:24:14,571 --> 01:24:17,748 He behaved in an outrageous fashion, 1754 01:24:17,878 --> 01:24:20,229 sometimes to his detriment. 1755 01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:22,883 But he also, as an artist, 1756 01:24:22,970 --> 01:24:26,322 just embodied who he was so fully. 1757 01:24:26,452 --> 01:24:29,107 And I don't think you can say that of a lot of artists. 1758 01:24:29,238 --> 01:24:31,762 ♪ 1759 01:24:31,892 --> 01:24:34,286 Ross: You know, Dirty is misinterpreted. 1760 01:24:34,373 --> 01:24:36,810 ♪♪ 1761 01:24:36,854 --> 01:24:39,639 A segment of culture want to remember him 1762 01:24:39,770 --> 01:24:42,120 as the guy who jumped on stage at the Grammys 1763 01:24:42,207 --> 01:24:44,862 or all the crazy...he did 1764 01:24:44,949 --> 01:24:49,127 as opposed to the great art he created. 1765 01:24:49,258 --> 01:24:51,912 It does him and his legacy a disservice. 1766 01:24:52,043 --> 01:24:53,958 You know, a lot of people gravitate 1767 01:24:54,045 --> 01:24:56,482 towards the lower story, 1768 01:24:56,569 --> 01:24:59,616 and it bothers me. 1769 01:24:59,703 --> 01:25:03,315 Sometimes when you push out too much frequency, 1770 01:25:03,402 --> 01:25:04,490 people don't like that. 1771 01:25:04,621 --> 01:25:06,449 [ Indistinct shouting ] 1772 01:25:06,536 --> 01:25:11,062 And that's...up because energy is a blessing. 1773 01:25:11,149 --> 01:25:14,979 Aisha: His family gave him a lot of his strength. 1774 01:25:15,066 --> 01:25:17,895 He spent a lot of time with his family. 1775 01:25:17,982 --> 01:25:21,725 His work, his children, his widow. 1776 01:25:21,855 --> 01:25:25,468 His rightful place in Wu-Tang. 1777 01:25:25,598 --> 01:25:27,992 I think that's his legacy. 1778 01:25:45,444 --> 01:25:48,839 ODB: Yo, peace, man. Ol' Dirty Bas out, man. I'm out.