1 00:00:03,394 --> 00:00:06,180 ♪ 2 00:00:06,267 --> 00:00:07,355 Hey, everyone, 3 00:00:07,485 --> 00:00:09,052 I'm Yvonne Orji, and welcome 4 00:00:09,139 --> 00:00:10,575 to the Emmy-nominated 5 00:00:10,706 --> 00:00:12,969 "Off Script with The Hollywood Reporter." 6 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:16,538 We are here back again at the beautiful Georgian Hotel 7 00:00:16,668 --> 00:00:18,279 in Santa Monica, California, 8 00:00:18,366 --> 00:00:19,932 a place where for many years, 9 00:00:20,063 --> 00:00:22,631 countless friends have gathered to share a drink -- 10 00:00:22,674 --> 00:00:24,328 oh, thank you, baby -- 11 00:00:24,415 --> 00:00:27,114 maybe even share a room, but definitely share a laugh. 12 00:00:27,157 --> 00:00:29,029 Well, today is no different. 13 00:00:29,116 --> 00:00:31,988 We brought together six actors from TV's biggest comedies 14 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:35,687 to toast each other and open up about their Hollywood journey. 15 00:00:35,818 --> 00:00:38,255 You'll hear from John Goodman of "The Righteous Gemstones" 16 00:00:38,299 --> 00:00:40,040 and "The Conners," 17 00:00:40,127 --> 00:00:42,390 Kelsey Grammer of "Frasier," 18 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,522 Theo James of "The Gentleman," 19 00:00:44,566 --> 00:00:47,134 Anthony Mackie of "Twisted Metal," 20 00:00:47,221 --> 00:00:49,745 Ricky Martin of "Palm Royale," 21 00:00:49,875 --> 00:00:52,704 and Bowen Yang of "Saturday Night Live." 22 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,885 As always, they are on the record, 23 00:00:59,929 --> 00:01:04,325 but maybe just a bit "Off Script with The Hollywood Reporter." 24 00:01:04,412 --> 00:01:06,718 Hey, Mikey, they're all yours. 25 00:01:06,805 --> 00:01:09,112 Thanks, Yvonne. Hi, I'm Mikey O'Connell. 26 00:01:09,199 --> 00:01:11,201 Welcome to the comedy actor roundtable. 27 00:01:11,288 --> 00:01:14,161 Let's get started. We're gonna jump right in. 28 00:01:14,248 --> 00:01:17,120 What's the funniest or strangest feedback 29 00:01:17,207 --> 00:01:19,601 you've ever read or heard about yourself? 30 00:01:19,688 --> 00:01:22,430 I get told I look like Justin Bieber. 31 00:01:22,517 --> 00:01:25,998 And, uh, since then, everything I wear, 32 00:01:26,129 --> 00:01:28,000 I try to look, you know, 50 and above. 33 00:01:28,131 --> 00:01:29,698 [Laughter] 34 00:01:29,785 --> 00:01:32,875 I'm terrified that I will resemble the Biebs. 35 00:01:32,918 --> 00:01:35,356 Yeah. Thankfully, I do --Well, he's a nice-looking kid. 36 00:01:35,443 --> 00:01:37,749 Yeah, I know, but it was when he was about 12. 37 00:01:37,836 --> 00:01:40,491 You're like Bieber on YouTube.[Laughter] 38 00:01:40,578 --> 00:01:42,145 Exactly. 39 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:46,235 Yeah, I think they -- I like how you say that -- 40 00:01:46,323 --> 00:01:48,369 that they were talking about me in an article, 41 00:01:48,456 --> 00:01:50,152 and they put a picture of Enrique Iglesias. 42 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,894 -Oh! -Oh! 43 00:01:51,981 --> 00:01:54,375 That happens. Yeah, but it's okay. 44 00:01:54,462 --> 00:01:56,507 I shaved my head once for a movie, 45 00:01:56,638 --> 00:02:00,250 and I was told that my head was too perfectly round, 46 00:02:00,294 --> 00:02:03,775 that I looked like the brown ball on the pool table. 47 00:02:03,862 --> 00:02:05,864 I was like, "Well, first of all, that's a compliment." 48 00:02:05,951 --> 00:02:08,301 I don't have any divots in my head. 49 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:10,259 But then, I never shaved my head again 50 00:02:10,304 --> 00:02:12,567 because I was like, "It's too perfectly round." 51 00:02:12,654 --> 00:02:16,962 I've received many reviews, many of them very bad.[Laughter] 52 00:02:17,049 --> 00:02:19,530 So, it would probably be one of those. 53 00:02:19,617 --> 00:02:22,446 I did a production of "Othello" years ago, 54 00:02:22,533 --> 00:02:25,667 and, uh, Christopher Plummer did Iago, 55 00:02:25,754 --> 00:02:29,323 James Earl Jones did Othello, and I played Cassio. 56 00:02:29,366 --> 00:02:31,586 And I think the review basically said, 57 00:02:31,716 --> 00:02:34,676 "And Kelsey Grammer was just fine as Cassio." 58 00:02:34,805 --> 00:02:36,329 And that, to me, just sucked. 59 00:02:36,417 --> 00:02:38,114 [Laughter] 60 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,855 Desdemona. You would have been a great Desdemona. 61 00:02:39,898 --> 00:02:41,596 I would have been a great Desdemona. 62 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,685 I had a woman who told me how much she admired my work 63 00:02:43,772 --> 00:02:46,644 on "Cheers" the other day, last week. 64 00:02:46,731 --> 00:02:48,341 [Laughter] 65 00:02:48,429 --> 00:02:50,822 The most challenging two things I've ever heard, 66 00:02:50,909 --> 00:02:53,303 actually, really, were not so much that review. 67 00:02:53,390 --> 00:02:55,827 One was after I'd just played Beast -- 68 00:02:55,914 --> 00:02:57,264 my days in Marvel -- 69 00:02:57,394 --> 00:02:58,874 and they came up and said, 70 00:02:58,917 --> 00:03:02,921 "We have the most wonderful next film planned." 71 00:03:03,008 --> 00:03:06,316 And we're -- I mean, this was Lauren Shuler Donner. 72 00:03:06,403 --> 00:03:10,755 And she said, "We're going to go back in time." 73 00:03:10,799 --> 00:03:14,890 And so, I suddenly had that sinking feeling of... 74 00:03:14,977 --> 00:03:18,110 "Oh, so, I won't be in it." 75 00:03:18,198 --> 00:03:19,808 [Laughter] 76 00:03:19,895 --> 00:03:23,725 "So, my performance as Beast will not be in it. 77 00:03:23,855 --> 00:03:25,509 That's what you're telling me." 78 00:03:25,596 --> 00:03:28,556 So, sure enough, it went back in time, and I was gone. 79 00:03:28,686 --> 00:03:31,559 So, I thought, well, that was really exciting news for me. 80 00:03:31,646 --> 00:03:34,301 The other, my most favorite statement I ever heard 81 00:03:34,388 --> 00:03:36,259 was when I was in my 40s. 82 00:03:36,390 --> 00:03:38,957 Somebody said, "You are the worst boyfriend 83 00:03:39,001 --> 00:03:40,045 I've ever had." 84 00:03:40,089 --> 00:03:41,525 So, yeah. 85 00:03:41,612 --> 00:03:44,353 [Laughter] 86 00:03:44,441 --> 00:03:46,748 Mikey: That's a great review. 87 00:03:46,835 --> 00:03:49,228 Probably, like, some comment that was like, 88 00:03:49,316 --> 00:03:50,795 "That guy's got an underbite." 89 00:03:50,839 --> 00:03:53,885 And I'm like, "Yeah, I do, a little bit." 90 00:03:53,972 --> 00:03:55,278 My jaw's a little bit out. 91 00:03:55,365 --> 00:03:57,672 -Very specific. -Very specific feedback. 92 00:03:57,759 --> 00:03:59,630 It's strange feedback. I think that qualifies. 93 00:03:59,716 --> 00:04:01,153 I bet it was a dentist. 94 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:02,851 But no, social media is crazy 95 00:04:02,981 --> 00:04:04,461 because you just never know what you're going to get. 96 00:04:04,505 --> 00:04:07,508 And people who are behind a fake picture 97 00:04:07,595 --> 00:04:09,640 and they can just say whatever they want. 98 00:04:09,771 --> 00:04:11,947 So, it's really good to just block. 99 00:04:12,034 --> 00:04:13,775 It feels good. 100 00:04:13,905 --> 00:04:16,125 Hollywood likes to put people in lanes, 101 00:04:16,168 --> 00:04:18,301 and I'm wondering, what are the parts 102 00:04:18,387 --> 00:04:21,303 that all of you are still occasionally offered 103 00:04:21,391 --> 00:04:23,959 that you're like, "Please, no, not this again." 104 00:04:24,046 --> 00:04:26,178 Hmm.I'll tell you this. 105 00:04:26,222 --> 00:04:28,137 I was the most famous actor on "The Wire" 106 00:04:28,224 --> 00:04:29,573 who wasn't on "The Wire." 107 00:04:29,660 --> 00:04:31,532 [Laughter] 108 00:04:31,619 --> 00:04:35,710 And when "The Wire" was on TV, I was every criminal, 109 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:40,105 every drug dealer, every rapper, every bad boy. 110 00:04:40,192 --> 00:04:43,935 And I was like, "I went to Juilliard." 111 00:04:44,022 --> 00:04:45,546 Like, stop it. 112 00:04:45,633 --> 00:04:47,635 I didn't -- I'm not on "The Wire." 113 00:04:47,722 --> 00:04:51,378 I couldn't -- I auditioned. I didn't get on "The Wire." 114 00:04:51,465 --> 00:04:54,076 Every Black dude was on "The Wire" except me. 115 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:56,861 I auditioned for Marlo and all of those dudes -- 116 00:04:56,992 --> 00:04:58,950 because I lived in New York at the time -- 117 00:04:59,037 --> 00:05:00,996 all of those dudes where my friends. 118 00:05:01,083 --> 00:05:02,998 So, one of my dear friends, still to this day, 119 00:05:03,085 --> 00:05:04,652 Jamie Hector, got the role. 120 00:05:04,739 --> 00:05:06,175 So, I would be -- it got to the point 121 00:05:06,262 --> 00:05:08,090 where it was a joke between him and I. 122 00:05:08,133 --> 00:05:11,180 I would go around, and people would ask me for pictures, 123 00:05:11,267 --> 00:05:13,313 and I would take pictures as him. 124 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,663 So, people -- it was just like you and Enrique. 125 00:05:15,793 --> 00:05:17,621 Like, people would be like, 126 00:05:17,707 --> 00:05:19,275 "Oh, my God, I have this amazing picture with Jamie Hector," 127 00:05:19,362 --> 00:05:20,798 and I'm like, "Get the fuck away from me." 128 00:05:20,885 --> 00:05:22,322 They're like, "Jamie Hector is an asshole." 129 00:05:22,409 --> 00:05:24,411 [Laughter] 130 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:29,590 I'm kind of still amazed that, like, 131 00:05:29,677 --> 00:05:32,332 the assistant trope is still so present in Hollywood 132 00:05:32,462 --> 00:05:35,291 for, like, someone like me with, like, an effeminate voice. 133 00:05:35,335 --> 00:05:38,250 It's like, I think they're still out there, and it's okay. 134 00:05:38,381 --> 00:05:41,515 It's like, it's fine. It's just, um... 135 00:05:41,645 --> 00:05:43,517 It does, if you think too hard about it, 136 00:05:43,604 --> 00:05:46,694 you go, "Oh, is it just, like, an ornamental thing?" 137 00:05:46,781 --> 00:05:48,478 Like, are we just, like, ornamental people, 138 00:05:48,609 --> 00:05:50,088 like, in society? 139 00:05:50,132 --> 00:05:51,829 And so, I can't think too hard about it, 140 00:05:51,916 --> 00:05:53,701 otherwise I get -- I spiral. 141 00:05:53,831 --> 00:05:56,878 I've heard you recently say that you, um, 142 00:05:57,008 --> 00:06:00,882 sort of swindled your way into Hollywood. 143 00:06:00,925 --> 00:06:02,884 Did I?Did you swindle your way in? 144 00:06:03,014 --> 00:06:05,452 I read that.You read that? 145 00:06:05,539 --> 00:06:07,410 And you agreed. How did I swindle my way in? 146 00:06:07,497 --> 00:06:10,326 Scamming your way through Hollywood. 147 00:06:10,413 --> 00:06:12,763 What is the biggest scam that you've run? 148 00:06:12,850 --> 00:06:14,765 Bowen: Oh, my God.Show us the way. 149 00:06:14,852 --> 00:06:16,071 I don't know. 150 00:06:16,158 --> 00:06:17,202 I feel like that was probably 151 00:06:17,289 --> 00:06:18,595 just my self-deprecating way 152 00:06:18,726 --> 00:06:20,467 of being like, oh, I don't really know 153 00:06:20,510 --> 00:06:23,557 um, how I figure into this. 154 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,211 Like, I feel like I have my safe haven at "SNL," 155 00:06:26,342 --> 00:06:28,126 where I get to just sort of write 156 00:06:28,170 --> 00:06:30,955 whatever I want for myself, and I am -- 157 00:06:30,999 --> 00:06:32,348 there's a little bit of anxiety around, 158 00:06:32,392 --> 00:06:34,437 like, leaving the nest 159 00:06:34,524 --> 00:06:37,614 and kind of being at the whim of other people 160 00:06:37,701 --> 00:06:39,834 and kind of giving that up. 161 00:06:39,921 --> 00:06:41,488 There is sort of a power loss. 162 00:06:41,575 --> 00:06:43,751 Ricky: How did you get -- what was your "SNL" entry? 163 00:06:43,838 --> 00:06:45,883 Was it just kind of auditioning and doing the -- 164 00:06:45,927 --> 00:06:47,755 Yeah, it was auditioning. 165 00:06:47,885 --> 00:06:50,975 And then, Lorne brought me on as a writer for one season, 166 00:06:51,062 --> 00:06:53,021 and then he moved me to the cast after one season, 167 00:06:53,151 --> 00:06:54,979 and he said, you know, "This was always my plan. 168 00:06:55,066 --> 00:06:56,807 Like, if I were to throw you out there without a paddle, 169 00:06:56,851 --> 00:06:58,635 then it would have set you up for failure, 170 00:06:58,722 --> 00:07:02,030 and it would have been a sad story." 171 00:07:02,073 --> 00:07:03,074 And he was like, "I just wanted to make sure you knew 172 00:07:03,161 --> 00:07:05,033 how the sausage was made, 173 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,166 so therefore you could succeed as much as you possibly could." 174 00:07:08,253 --> 00:07:09,341 So, it was very professional. 175 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:10,604 I think you're awesome, man. 176 00:07:10,734 --> 00:07:12,170 Oh, thanks, Ricky. You, too. 177 00:07:12,257 --> 00:07:14,521 Everyone here is fucking awesome. [Laughs] 178 00:07:14,608 --> 00:07:16,348 [Laughter] 179 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:18,481 That's pretty -- That's pretty cool. 180 00:07:18,568 --> 00:07:19,743 Thank you, Enrique. 181 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:21,832 [Laughter] 182 00:07:23,007 --> 00:07:26,533 John, I read that you consider yourself a people-pleaser 183 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:27,925 to this day, which I feel like 184 00:07:28,012 --> 00:07:30,145 could get you in trouble in Hollywood. 185 00:07:30,188 --> 00:07:31,363 Has it ever? 186 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:33,409 So, to my detriment. Yeah. 187 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,325 Yeah, it's one of the many things I'm working on. 188 00:07:37,282 --> 00:07:39,371 I mean, I'm not going to smack somebody in the face 189 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:42,331 for no reason, but it's -- yeah, it became too much 190 00:07:42,462 --> 00:07:45,726 where I became devoid of any personality 191 00:07:45,813 --> 00:07:47,771 and just trying to help. 192 00:07:47,815 --> 00:07:51,732 And then there's a lot of things to it, a lot of layers 193 00:07:51,819 --> 00:07:53,690 that cost a lot of money to fix. 194 00:07:53,734 --> 00:07:55,779 Theo, you went straight into "The Gentleman" 195 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:57,825 from "White Lotus," 196 00:07:57,868 --> 00:08:00,654 which is the show that every actor 197 00:08:00,697 --> 00:08:02,656 seems to want to be on these days. 198 00:08:02,699 --> 00:08:05,006 Did that experience open any doors 199 00:08:05,136 --> 00:08:07,356 that you previously felt were close to you? 200 00:08:07,443 --> 00:08:10,968 Yeah, definitely. Um, yeah, 100%. 201 00:08:11,055 --> 00:08:13,580 I think, because it's comedic, 202 00:08:13,667 --> 00:08:18,062 but then there's, you know, it tackles fairly complex issues, 203 00:08:18,193 --> 00:08:19,499 you know, first season, second season, 204 00:08:19,586 --> 00:08:21,675 and his other seasons will, of course. 205 00:08:21,718 --> 00:08:25,069 But, you know, with that season, it's about sexual politics, 206 00:08:25,156 --> 00:08:27,855 gender, love, 207 00:08:27,942 --> 00:08:32,511 animal versus the kind of, you know, ephemeral. 208 00:08:32,599 --> 00:08:34,818 Um, it's complex. 209 00:08:34,905 --> 00:08:37,778 And, yeah, it definitely opened doors, for sure. 210 00:08:37,865 --> 00:08:39,431 And I loved playing that character. 211 00:08:39,562 --> 00:08:45,002 You know, he represented Americana to me in its best 212 00:08:45,089 --> 00:08:46,438 and, you know, the problems with it. 213 00:08:46,526 --> 00:08:48,528 You know, he's kind of front facing, 214 00:08:48,615 --> 00:08:50,225 front foot on the ground. 215 00:08:50,355 --> 00:08:52,793 You know, his energy is outward. 216 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,490 He's charming. 217 00:08:54,621 --> 00:08:56,753 But then beyond that, he's quite calculating. 218 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,233 Um, so with "The Gentleman," 219 00:08:58,276 --> 00:09:00,627 I kind of wanted to do the opposite, 220 00:09:00,670 --> 00:09:04,021 which is, you know, very British and a twat. 221 00:09:04,108 --> 00:09:06,154 [Laughter] 222 00:09:06,284 --> 00:09:09,374 So far, my feedback is you gotta keep it cute in the comments, 223 00:09:09,461 --> 00:09:11,855 otherwise Ricky Martin will block you. 224 00:09:11,986 --> 00:09:15,424 So much more with our panel of comedy actors coming right up. 225 00:09:15,511 --> 00:09:22,866 ♪♪ 226 00:09:23,693 --> 00:09:29,481 ♪ 227 00:09:29,612 --> 00:09:31,527 Don't you just love seeing familiar faces 228 00:09:31,614 --> 00:09:32,963 on your TV screens? 229 00:09:33,094 --> 00:09:34,790 I mean, John Goodman and Kelsey Grammer 230 00:09:34,835 --> 00:09:37,359 have been making us laugh for decades. 231 00:09:37,489 --> 00:09:38,969 The nostalgia of it all! 232 00:09:39,013 --> 00:09:41,581 Let's hear from these two legends firsthand. 233 00:09:41,624 --> 00:09:43,583 Looking back on all your careers, 234 00:09:43,626 --> 00:09:46,890 when was the time that you felt like you took your biggest risk? 235 00:09:46,977 --> 00:09:48,326 [Laughter] 236 00:09:48,413 --> 00:09:50,677 Hosting "Saturday Night Live." 237 00:09:50,807 --> 00:09:52,330 Ricky: That was a risk? 238 00:09:52,374 --> 00:09:55,116 The first time, I was scared to death. 239 00:09:55,203 --> 00:09:56,683 I didn't think I could do it. 240 00:09:56,726 --> 00:09:58,380 I thought I'd die once I opened the door 241 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:00,077 for the monologue. 242 00:10:00,164 --> 00:10:03,037 But it happened, and it was -- 243 00:10:03,124 --> 00:10:08,085 turned out to be the...most fun I've ever had. 244 00:10:08,129 --> 00:10:09,696 And you were such a mainstay. 245 00:10:09,739 --> 00:10:11,523 Like, like people were clearly so happy 246 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:13,090 that you were coming back. 247 00:10:13,177 --> 00:10:16,006 They made me feel at home. It was wonderful. 248 00:10:16,093 --> 00:10:18,182 That's really nice.But that was -- 249 00:10:18,226 --> 00:10:20,881 that's probably the most fear I've ever had. 250 00:10:20,968 --> 00:10:22,447 Now I'm gonna look for it. 251 00:10:22,534 --> 00:10:24,580 [Laughter] 252 00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:26,669 What were you afraid of? Were you afraid of -- 253 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,715 Oh, just stinking on ice and, you know, 254 00:10:28,802 --> 00:10:31,892 not being funny, being fat on camera. 255 00:10:31,979 --> 00:10:33,110 Wait a minute. 256 00:10:33,197 --> 00:10:34,851 [Laughter] 257 00:10:34,938 --> 00:10:36,331 Just the wars.Live. 258 00:10:36,374 --> 00:10:38,812 Because I admired the show so much, 259 00:10:38,899 --> 00:10:40,161 and... 260 00:10:41,902 --> 00:10:43,381 ...yeah, I was definitely afraid 261 00:10:43,468 --> 00:10:45,819 of getting kicked out of the studio 262 00:10:45,949 --> 00:10:47,647 before the hour and a half was up, 263 00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:49,039 but it worked out. 264 00:10:49,126 --> 00:10:51,433 And how was the lead-up the week of -- 265 00:10:51,563 --> 00:10:54,697 Oh, it was it was so busy. 266 00:10:54,828 --> 00:10:56,568 Did you feel nervous at that point, or... 267 00:10:56,656 --> 00:10:58,353 Oh, absolutely. Yeah. 268 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,226 But I was working with such wonderful people. 269 00:11:02,313 --> 00:11:04,794 And then the stage manager -- everybody took care of me. 270 00:11:04,881 --> 00:11:07,405 It was very scary, but so rewarding. 271 00:11:07,492 --> 00:11:10,539 It's just so much fun. 272 00:11:10,626 --> 00:11:13,063 Then you did it subsequently, in the future.Yeah. 273 00:11:13,150 --> 00:11:14,412 Like 13 times. 274 00:11:14,543 --> 00:11:17,067 What?! Fuck me! You've done it 13 times? 275 00:11:17,154 --> 00:11:19,722 Oh, wow.In the old days. 276 00:11:19,809 --> 00:11:23,030 And so, once you've done it once, did it feel... 277 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,119 The second, I was still scared, 278 00:11:25,206 --> 00:11:26,990 but it felt like coming home again 279 00:11:27,077 --> 00:11:29,210 because we still had some of the same cast members. 280 00:11:29,297 --> 00:11:30,820 Kelsey, did you have a good experience hosting? 281 00:11:30,907 --> 00:11:33,083 I did it a couple of times. I liked it. 282 00:11:33,127 --> 00:11:34,345 I had a great time. 283 00:11:34,432 --> 00:11:35,651 I'm trying to think. 284 00:11:35,738 --> 00:11:37,044 Phil Hartman was still alive then, 285 00:11:37,087 --> 00:11:38,828 and, uh, Rob Schneider was on the show. 286 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:41,788 And Adam Sandler and Farley, too. 287 00:11:41,875 --> 00:11:43,572 Theo: Oh, wow. Holy shit. Yeah. 288 00:11:43,659 --> 00:11:45,139 Yeah, I had a great time with them. 289 00:11:45,226 --> 00:11:46,575 I was so impressed with them. 290 00:11:46,662 --> 00:11:47,707 And of course, I couldn't get through it. 291 00:11:47,794 --> 00:11:50,318 I kept cracking up. 292 00:11:50,448 --> 00:11:53,103 Schneider's skit was, uh, something smells good 293 00:11:53,234 --> 00:11:57,194 in whatever, in Assville or whatever it was. 294 00:11:57,281 --> 00:11:59,109 And I said, "Honey, what is that smell?" 295 00:11:59,196 --> 00:12:01,982 And I said, "Just give me the cat's ass, will you?" 296 00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:04,201 So, I grab a cat and... 297 00:12:04,288 --> 00:12:05,115 Oh, that's better. 298 00:12:05,246 --> 00:12:06,421 [Laughter] 299 00:12:06,508 --> 00:12:07,770 I couldn't get through it. 300 00:12:07,857 --> 00:12:10,512 I started laughing the whole time. 301 00:12:11,774 --> 00:12:13,123 I really enjoyed it. 302 00:12:13,210 --> 00:12:14,995 And, uh, Shaquille was on one time with me. 303 00:12:15,082 --> 00:12:18,433 And so, at the end of the final tableau thing, 304 00:12:18,563 --> 00:12:19,564 you know, "Good night, everybody. 305 00:12:19,651 --> 00:12:21,175 Blah blah, blah, blah, blah." 306 00:12:21,262 --> 00:12:23,220 He picked me up.Theo: Oh, wow. 307 00:12:23,307 --> 00:12:24,831 I went, "Holy shit." I said -- 308 00:12:24,918 --> 00:12:28,182 You know, I weighed 230 pounds at the time. 309 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:31,663 And I said, "Shit, isn't that kind of hard?" 310 00:12:31,707 --> 00:12:33,143 He said, "No. You as light as a feather." 311 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:35,406 [Laughter] 312 00:12:35,493 --> 00:12:37,104 And you're right about that nervous thing. 313 00:12:37,191 --> 00:12:39,367 You did it so much, though. 314 00:12:39,454 --> 00:12:41,282 I've never been a stand-up guy 315 00:12:41,369 --> 00:12:42,674 because I was too scared of it. 316 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:44,198 I just thought I would just hate that. 317 00:12:44,285 --> 00:12:46,113 I would hate to fail in that. 318 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,202 My monologues always stunk. 319 00:12:48,245 --> 00:12:51,031 I even sang one. 320 00:12:51,118 --> 00:12:52,815 But, uh, I got through it. 321 00:12:52,946 --> 00:12:54,948 And then I read later that Tom Hanks said 322 00:12:54,991 --> 00:12:58,473 that the most important thing you'll do is the monologue. 323 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,431 Oh, now I know! 324 00:13:00,518 --> 00:13:02,607 [Laughter] 325 00:13:03,608 --> 00:13:05,175 I just wasn't good at it. 326 00:13:05,262 --> 00:13:07,874 So, I thought, well, I'll just get through that. 327 00:13:07,917 --> 00:13:09,789 You and John are both playing characters 328 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:12,661 that you originated in the '80s. 329 00:13:12,704 --> 00:13:15,925 What could you get away with then 330 00:13:16,012 --> 00:13:17,666 that you can't now? 331 00:13:17,709 --> 00:13:19,929 And is there anything vice-versa? 332 00:13:19,973 --> 00:13:21,583 You know, honestly, I don't think there's anything 333 00:13:21,626 --> 00:13:22,976 you couldn't get away with then 334 00:13:23,106 --> 00:13:24,586 and you can't get away with now, honestly. 335 00:13:24,673 --> 00:13:27,241 I mean, there's, uh... 336 00:13:27,328 --> 00:13:29,634 I always tried to keep the level of the comedy 337 00:13:29,678 --> 00:13:32,594 up above a certain, you know, quality. 338 00:13:32,681 --> 00:13:35,031 So, it was never my thing to go scatological 339 00:13:35,075 --> 00:13:39,993 or to go, you know, um, diminish anybody. 340 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,343 So, I just try to make the level of comedy 341 00:13:42,473 --> 00:13:45,563 sort of aim up or play up to the audience. 342 00:13:45,607 --> 00:13:47,783 So, I don't -- I've never really been cursed by, 343 00:13:47,914 --> 00:13:50,003 "Oh, that was inappropriate, or that was like, 344 00:13:50,090 --> 00:13:51,613 oh, what a terrible thing to do. 345 00:13:51,743 --> 00:13:53,484 I mean, the only thing I ever felt foolish about 346 00:13:53,571 --> 00:13:55,051 was trying to do a James Mason impression 347 00:13:55,138 --> 00:13:56,618 on "Saturday Night Live," 348 00:13:56,705 --> 00:13:59,012 but, uh, it sort of went rather well. 349 00:13:59,099 --> 00:14:01,666 But it was still, you know, 350 00:14:01,753 --> 00:14:04,191 it was still rather embarrassing. 351 00:14:04,278 --> 00:14:06,410 But now I've never really encountered it, 352 00:14:06,541 --> 00:14:09,892 but I've never done jokes below the waist. 353 00:14:09,979 --> 00:14:13,113 I mean, we always had a standing rule about, uh, 354 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,810 the "Frasier" show was always -- 355 00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:17,595 we'd never make a joke about, you know, genitalia. 356 00:14:17,682 --> 00:14:18,858 It just wouldn't happen. 357 00:14:18,945 --> 00:14:20,250 We might suggest such a thing, 358 00:14:20,337 --> 00:14:21,686 but we never really... 359 00:14:21,773 --> 00:14:23,427 You know, it was -- there was one scene 360 00:14:23,514 --> 00:14:25,560 where Frasier undid his belt because his Dad told him to 361 00:14:25,647 --> 00:14:27,692 if he was feeling like he ate too much. 362 00:14:29,259 --> 00:14:31,479 That's about it.Below the waist. 363 00:14:31,566 --> 00:14:33,655 I did have a question about music related. 364 00:14:33,698 --> 00:14:36,397 The theme, the "Frasier" theme. How did that come about? 365 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,138 Oh, that was just a whim for me 366 00:14:38,181 --> 00:14:41,402 because I thought I've always wanted to sing a theme song. 367 00:14:41,489 --> 00:14:43,491 So, I said, "I'm singing it." 368 00:14:43,534 --> 00:14:46,233 And they said, "Okay. We weren't even gonna have one." 369 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,538 I said, "We're having one." 370 00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:48,975 [Laughter] 371 00:14:49,062 --> 00:14:50,802 And then you gave them that, or -- 372 00:14:50,933 --> 00:14:53,980 No, it just came up with the songwriter for the show, 373 00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:55,415 the guy that kind of did the incidental music 374 00:14:55,503 --> 00:14:57,157 and stuff as well -- Bruce. 375 00:14:57,244 --> 00:14:59,115 He put together an idea. 376 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:01,465 And then I sort of looked at it and I thought, 377 00:15:01,552 --> 00:15:03,250 "Well, I guess I can sort of jazz it up." 378 00:15:03,380 --> 00:15:04,947 John, do you feel the same? 379 00:15:05,034 --> 00:15:07,341 I feel like the original iteration of "Roseanne" 380 00:15:07,384 --> 00:15:10,605 pushed a lot of new ground. 381 00:15:10,648 --> 00:15:14,957 Yeah, and perhaps it did it, uh... 382 00:15:15,044 --> 00:15:17,873 Different times. I don't... 383 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,354 I think Roseanne kissed Mariel Hemingway one time, 384 00:15:20,397 --> 00:15:22,051 or vice versa. 385 00:15:22,138 --> 00:15:26,229 And that was pretty much unheard of at the time. 386 00:15:26,316 --> 00:15:30,755 Uh, none of us wanted to work stupid. 387 00:15:30,842 --> 00:15:33,715 We, uh, set the-- 388 00:15:33,758 --> 00:15:35,935 I think Roseanne first said, "Just because we're poor 389 00:15:36,022 --> 00:15:37,893 doesn't mean we're stupid." 390 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:40,504 And, uh, we tried to hew to that, 391 00:15:40,591 --> 00:15:43,986 and, uh, sometimes it works, sometimes it didn't. 392 00:15:44,073 --> 00:15:45,640 Ricky, you've been working in entertainment 393 00:15:45,683 --> 00:15:47,294 since you were 12. 394 00:15:47,381 --> 00:15:50,514 In, like, every corner of the industry. 395 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:51,994 Is there still something 396 00:15:52,081 --> 00:15:53,953 that's on your list of things to do 397 00:15:54,083 --> 00:15:57,043 that you're really dying to try? 398 00:15:58,958 --> 00:16:02,396 Yes. I would love to do film.Mm-hmm. 399 00:16:02,483 --> 00:16:05,312 Uh I think that's what I'm getting ready for. 400 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:07,314 And I knock on wood for this. 401 00:16:07,444 --> 00:16:09,272 That's my dream. That's my dream. 402 00:16:09,359 --> 00:16:11,622 And I need to go back to theater, of course. 403 00:16:11,709 --> 00:16:13,973 I need to go back to to Broadway. 404 00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:15,496 Something I really want to do. 405 00:16:15,583 --> 00:16:17,759 Theo: What did you start when you're 12? 406 00:16:17,846 --> 00:16:19,152 It was a boy band. 407 00:16:19,282 --> 00:16:20,849 But for me, it was theater. 408 00:16:20,936 --> 00:16:22,459 Because they told us what to wear, what to say, 409 00:16:22,503 --> 00:16:24,157 what to sing, how to move. 410 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,637 Stagecraft.It was stagecraft. 411 00:16:26,724 --> 00:16:28,639 Five years of being part of the boy band, 412 00:16:28,770 --> 00:16:30,424 traveling around the world. 413 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:32,339 It was beautiful.John: Great way to learn. 414 00:16:32,382 --> 00:16:35,777 I learned a lot. Yes, of course, until I was 17. 415 00:16:35,864 --> 00:16:38,388 And then I went as a soloist. 416 00:16:38,475 --> 00:16:40,956 I started doing theater in Mexico. 417 00:16:41,087 --> 00:16:45,178 I did TV series in Mexico, uh, in Argentina as well. 418 00:16:45,221 --> 00:16:47,702 It was Latin America. It was acting. 419 00:16:47,789 --> 00:16:49,921 But then something happened with music 420 00:16:49,965 --> 00:16:52,663 that I had to serve the wave 421 00:16:52,707 --> 00:16:54,796 because it was very difficult.Something definitely happened. 422 00:16:54,883 --> 00:16:56,580 Right? I mean, something happened. 423 00:16:56,667 --> 00:16:58,756 You happened the hell out of music. 424 00:16:58,843 --> 00:17:00,106 It was very, very, very powerful, very beautiful. 425 00:17:00,193 --> 00:17:01,977 And, and, uh, 426 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,718 and it was all a preparation to where I'm at today. 427 00:17:03,848 --> 00:17:05,502 What can I say? 428 00:17:05,589 --> 00:17:07,635 This is -- I would do it all over again. 429 00:17:07,765 --> 00:17:10,246 It's been a very beautiful life of entertaining. 430 00:17:10,333 --> 00:17:11,856 All right, so just to recap, 431 00:17:11,987 --> 00:17:13,162 John Goodman did "Roseanne," 432 00:17:13,292 --> 00:17:14,337 a bunch of other stuff, 433 00:17:14,468 --> 00:17:15,904 and then "Roseanne" again, 434 00:17:15,946 --> 00:17:17,339 and then Kelsey Grammer did "Cheers," 435 00:17:17,471 --> 00:17:19,038 which became "Frasier." 436 00:17:19,167 --> 00:17:21,214 And now he's doing "Frasier" again. 437 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:23,520 [ Laughs ] 438 00:17:23,564 --> 00:17:25,087 To be a man in comedy. 439 00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:31,702 ♪ 440 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:38,492 ♪ 441 00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:41,234 Welcome back to "Off Script with The Hollywood Reporter." 442 00:17:41,277 --> 00:17:43,932 Let's pick things back up with our Comedy Actors Roundtable. 443 00:17:43,975 --> 00:17:46,021 Anthony, what's your biggest risk? 444 00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:48,676 And I feel like you've had such a diverse career. 445 00:17:48,763 --> 00:17:52,071 You started out working with Spike Lee and Kathryn Bigelow, 446 00:17:52,158 --> 00:17:54,116 all these huge directors. 447 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,379 You're a Marvel guy, and now you're playing this, 448 00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:58,207 like, action, comedy, 449 00:17:58,294 --> 00:18:00,949 post-apocalyptic thing based on a video game. 450 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,082 Like, where do you feel comfortable 451 00:18:03,125 --> 00:18:04,996 and where do you feel uncomfortable? 452 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,130 I will say my biggest risk was probably the -- 453 00:18:08,174 --> 00:18:11,525 I would say the saddest moment of my career. 454 00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:15,964 I did this show where it was 40 pages of dialogue, 455 00:18:16,051 --> 00:18:17,705 and it was just me. 456 00:18:17,792 --> 00:18:19,924 It was me against me talking to me. 457 00:18:19,968 --> 00:18:24,103 And, you know, you're getting the rut of people being like, 458 00:18:24,146 --> 00:18:28,150 "Oh, you know, play this guy 20 times, so do this 20 times." 459 00:18:28,237 --> 00:18:31,197 And I was like, "I want to see if I still got it." 460 00:18:31,284 --> 00:18:33,721 Like, "If I'ma fail, I want to fail 461 00:18:33,808 --> 00:18:35,679 going down guns of blazing." 462 00:18:35,766 --> 00:18:37,377 And, uh, I read the script. 463 00:18:37,464 --> 00:18:39,379 I was like, "I want to do it." 464 00:18:39,466 --> 00:18:44,427 I went to go do it and honestly did some of the best work 465 00:18:44,471 --> 00:18:47,387 I feel I've done as an actor 466 00:18:47,474 --> 00:18:50,433 in my 40 years of acting, 467 00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:52,827 and nobody saw it. 468 00:18:52,914 --> 00:18:55,699 Theo: It was a movie?No, it was a show. 469 00:18:55,786 --> 00:18:58,354 Oh, a show on TV. Got it. 470 00:18:58,441 --> 00:19:02,141 It really just humble sauced the shit out of me. 471 00:19:02,271 --> 00:19:05,056 And ironically enough, it was this dude, 472 00:19:05,144 --> 00:19:08,538 something he said that a friend of mine sent to me 473 00:19:08,625 --> 00:19:13,500 that it really just turned everything around for me, 474 00:19:13,543 --> 00:19:16,372 for my career, the way I perceived my career 475 00:19:16,459 --> 00:19:18,331 and the work that I wanted to do. 476 00:19:18,418 --> 00:19:20,159 Did you go to NOCCA? I did. 477 00:19:20,289 --> 00:19:22,204 I did. It's a great place. 478 00:19:22,291 --> 00:19:25,207 It was an amazing school when I was there. 479 00:19:25,294 --> 00:19:28,950 We had to create and evolve out of nothing, 480 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,693 and we did some of the craziest work and clown work 481 00:19:32,780 --> 00:19:34,564 and just everything. 482 00:19:34,695 --> 00:19:38,177 The performing artists in New Orleans 483 00:19:38,264 --> 00:19:39,961 and a lot of people went through that. 484 00:19:40,091 --> 00:19:43,660 Yeah, Harry Connick Jr., all the Marsalises, you know, 485 00:19:43,791 --> 00:19:45,923 I met Wendell Pierce, 486 00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:51,233 who has kind of been like my older brother since I was 13. 487 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,543 Wendell Pierce pulled up to NOCCA in like a Porsche. 488 00:19:56,586 --> 00:20:00,199 And he had on a white linen suit 489 00:20:00,286 --> 00:20:01,722 with a white hat. 490 00:20:01,809 --> 00:20:04,290 And he was coming to talk to the students. 491 00:20:04,377 --> 00:20:07,249 I'm 13 years old, and I'm like, "Who is this black dude 492 00:20:07,336 --> 00:20:09,338 in this Porsche with this linen suit?" 493 00:20:09,425 --> 00:20:10,905 So I run up to him after he talks. 494 00:20:10,992 --> 00:20:12,602 I'm like, "Man, I want to be just like you. 495 00:20:12,689 --> 00:20:14,213 I'm gonna do everything you did. I'm gonna go to every... 496 00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:15,779 I'm gonna do everything you did." 497 00:20:15,823 --> 00:20:17,433 He's like, "All right, kid, good luck." 498 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,131 And he puts on his hat and he gets in his Porsche 499 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,046 and he's like, skrt! It blew my mind. 500 00:20:22,133 --> 00:20:25,006 I actually played against myself, 501 00:20:25,136 --> 00:20:27,269 and I -- similarly to you, I put everything in it. 502 00:20:27,356 --> 00:20:29,793 I feel like I did some of my best work, 503 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,231 and I always remember, you know, 504 00:20:32,318 --> 00:20:36,713 and I didn't watch the show before the, um -- you know, 505 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,802 before you go to the premiere and whatever, blah, blah, blah, 506 00:20:38,889 --> 00:20:40,587 because, you know, at the time, everyone was like, "Yeah! 507 00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:42,371 Fuck yeah! This is fucking awesome!" 508 00:20:42,415 --> 00:20:45,244 I was like, "Okay, I'm feeling pretty good about this." 509 00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:47,420 I remember, uh, going down to the bar. 510 00:20:47,463 --> 00:20:49,770 I was, like, ready to go to the -- the -- 511 00:20:49,813 --> 00:20:52,076 the premiere of it or whatever. 512 00:20:52,163 --> 00:20:54,078 And I looked at my phone just on nothing, 513 00:20:54,122 --> 00:20:55,341 like New York Times, something else. 514 00:20:55,471 --> 00:20:57,691 And I was like, "Oh, God. 515 00:20:57,821 --> 00:20:59,519 I'll have another drink." 516 00:20:59,606 --> 00:21:01,999 And I was just like, "Oh, God. 517 00:21:02,043 --> 00:21:05,568 Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, God." 518 00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:07,614 And then had to fucking turn up to the thing, 519 00:21:07,744 --> 00:21:09,920 which I knew had been kind of destroyed, you know, like... 520 00:21:10,007 --> 00:21:12,749 [Laughter] 521 00:21:12,836 --> 00:21:15,230 Do you guys feel that, like, it's a little bit better 522 00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:16,840 to play opposite yourself 523 00:21:16,884 --> 00:21:18,451 because there are fewer variables there? 524 00:21:18,494 --> 00:21:20,757 Like, you are kind of on both ends 525 00:21:20,844 --> 00:21:22,716 knowing where you're coming from? 526 00:21:22,846 --> 00:21:24,935 I would say it's -- it's -- it's the hardest. 527 00:21:25,022 --> 00:21:26,415 -It's so hard. -Because for me, 528 00:21:26,502 --> 00:21:28,635 I look at acting like a game of tennis. 529 00:21:28,722 --> 00:21:30,506 Like, when you hit the ball across the net, 530 00:21:30,593 --> 00:21:32,073 you need somebody to hit it back. 531 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,683 Like, you can't volley by yourself, 532 00:21:33,727 --> 00:21:35,206 and you're just hitting a wall if you are. 533 00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:36,338 You're looking at yourself going like, 534 00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:37,992 "I'm not getting anything." 535 00:21:38,122 --> 00:21:39,646 Exactly. "You're shit, man." 536 00:21:39,689 --> 00:21:42,213 -Oh, my God. -"This dude sucks." 537 00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:45,826 You know, so it's -- it's weird when you don't have 538 00:21:45,869 --> 00:21:48,959 that other person to act against. 539 00:21:49,046 --> 00:21:50,526 -Or to surprise. -Or to surprise. 540 00:21:50,570 --> 00:21:53,007 Or to do something to really, you know -- 541 00:21:53,094 --> 00:21:54,704 And you can lock yourself into performances that 542 00:21:54,791 --> 00:21:57,403 you find you're -- you don't like on the other side, 543 00:21:57,490 --> 00:21:59,013 -can't you? -Right. 544 00:21:59,056 --> 00:22:01,450 You do something, and then on the return side, 545 00:22:01,537 --> 00:22:03,452 you're like, "I don't have enough time 546 00:22:03,583 --> 00:22:04,758 or I wanted to do something else." 547 00:22:04,888 --> 00:22:06,629 Yeah. It's tricky. 548 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,719 Theo, I heard recently that you want to play Henry VIII, 549 00:22:09,806 --> 00:22:12,331 -which seems very against type. -That's aggressive. 550 00:22:12,374 --> 00:22:14,898 I thought you were going to say a gamut of inappropriate things 551 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:17,074 I've said to that question. 552 00:22:17,161 --> 00:22:18,859 [Laughter] 553 00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:20,426 Yeah. Uh, yeah, I would. 554 00:22:20,513 --> 00:22:23,254 I like -- I've always been fascinated by him, 555 00:22:23,385 --> 00:22:28,477 the idea of someone who, because he became maniacal, 556 00:22:28,564 --> 00:22:33,177 he became, you know, obese and covered in boils 557 00:22:33,264 --> 00:22:36,920 and a terrible dictator, but he didn't start that way. 558 00:22:36,964 --> 00:22:39,488 So the idea of -- of seeing someone, uh, 559 00:22:39,532 --> 00:22:42,448 evolve to that and what power does. 560 00:22:42,535 --> 00:22:45,320 And -- And Britain at that time is an interesting -- 561 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,496 you know, it's a very interesting period of history 562 00:22:47,583 --> 00:22:49,324 -because -- -He's fascinating. 563 00:22:49,411 --> 00:22:50,760 Yeah. They were -- They were kind of small fry. 564 00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:52,066 -Henry VIII was extraordinary. -Yeah. 565 00:22:52,109 --> 00:22:53,328 And Henry VIII kind of put them 566 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:54,938 back on the kind of European scene. 567 00:22:55,025 --> 00:22:56,636 Kelsey: His contribution to music. 568 00:22:56,679 --> 00:22:58,115 And, of course, he would always say to his wives, 569 00:22:58,202 --> 00:22:59,726 you know, "Don't lose your head." 570 00:22:59,769 --> 00:23:00,988 [Laughter] 571 00:23:01,075 --> 00:23:02,729 The biggest risk I've ever taken 572 00:23:02,816 --> 00:23:05,427 was bringing home a B-minus to my very Nigerian mama. 573 00:23:05,471 --> 00:23:07,995 More with our A-plus panel right after this. 574 00:23:08,082 --> 00:23:09,910 Y'all, I'm so glad I made it. 575 00:23:09,953 --> 00:23:16,090 ♪ 576 00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:23,532 ♪ 577 00:23:23,663 --> 00:23:25,447 Tell me about a time 578 00:23:25,534 --> 00:23:28,232 where you most wanted to walk off a job. 579 00:23:28,363 --> 00:23:30,060 I walked out of stage once. 580 00:23:30,147 --> 00:23:31,975 I left a tour. I was exhausted. 581 00:23:32,062 --> 00:23:34,325 I was sad. I was depressed. 582 00:23:34,456 --> 00:23:36,502 I was not happy with what I was doing. 583 00:23:36,545 --> 00:23:39,722 I had been working for two years nonstop, 584 00:23:39,809 --> 00:23:41,115 200 shows in -- in two years. 585 00:23:41,245 --> 00:23:42,812 Theo: Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. 586 00:23:42,943 --> 00:23:45,336 And I was in Australia, and we still had two more -- 587 00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:46,816 two more weeks to go. 588 00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:49,123 We had to go to Argentina to do the final, 589 00:23:49,253 --> 00:23:50,603 and then everybody was going home, 590 00:23:50,733 --> 00:23:52,822 and I was like, "I'm not going to survive. 591 00:23:52,866 --> 00:23:54,868 I'm not going to -- If we go to Argentina, 592 00:23:54,998 --> 00:23:57,000 I'm going to collapse and I'm going to collapse bad. 593 00:23:57,087 --> 00:23:58,785 I need to go home now. 594 00:23:58,872 --> 00:24:01,309 Please listen to me. I need to go home." 595 00:24:01,352 --> 00:24:02,832 I was begging my managers, everybody. 596 00:24:02,919 --> 00:24:04,660 "You're crazy. We're almost there. 597 00:24:04,747 --> 00:24:06,401 Come on, let's do this." And I'm like, "No, no, no. 598 00:24:06,532 --> 00:24:08,403 No, you don't understand. 599 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:11,537 If we don't go back home now, this is going to get ugly." 600 00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:15,366 And I went back home, and it was the best decision I ever made. 601 00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:16,672 Did it cost you for that? 602 00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:18,152 How much did it cost you? 603 00:24:18,282 --> 00:24:19,762 -It was a lot of money. -Yeah. 604 00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:21,590 It was a lot of money, but it was my health. 605 00:24:21,634 --> 00:24:23,679 -Yeah, absolutely. -And it was my state of mind, 606 00:24:23,723 --> 00:24:26,377 my mental health, my physical health. 607 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:28,292 And I just wanted to be home. 608 00:24:28,423 --> 00:24:31,252 I wanted to be with my dogs. And this is not only two years. 609 00:24:31,382 --> 00:24:34,908 This is a decade of not being able to say no. 610 00:24:34,995 --> 00:24:37,432 "Yes, let's do it. Yes, let's do it. Yes, yes." 611 00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:39,652 People pleasing, people pleasing, people pleasing. 612 00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:44,961 And that last tour, I was angry. I was not enjoying the music. 613 00:24:45,048 --> 00:24:46,876 I was not happy with the applause. 614 00:24:46,963 --> 00:24:50,271 The arena was full, packed. Every stadium was full. 615 00:24:50,314 --> 00:24:53,230 And I was just sad and I couldn't take it anymore. 616 00:24:53,317 --> 00:24:55,798 So I went back home, and we're still here. 617 00:24:55,885 --> 00:24:57,539 This is 20-something years ago. 618 00:24:57,626 --> 00:24:59,759 -Oh, wow. -I just needed a break. 619 00:24:59,802 --> 00:25:01,151 Bowen: And if you're numb to all that stimulus, 620 00:25:01,238 --> 00:25:03,023 like, in -- in the arena, 621 00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:04,720 like, if that's doing nothing for you, 622 00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:06,505 -then, like, huge red flag. -Imagine. Imagine. 623 00:25:06,635 --> 00:25:08,637 -Yeah. -Oh, my God, yeah, yeah. 624 00:25:08,724 --> 00:25:10,639 I mean, I feel like a lot of people 625 00:25:10,726 --> 00:25:13,120 reach a point in their career like that where they're like, 626 00:25:13,207 --> 00:25:15,035 "I'm just doing it for myself now." 627 00:25:15,122 --> 00:25:17,690 Has anyone else had that sort of like moment where they're like, 628 00:25:17,820 --> 00:25:19,518 "Oh, I'm -- I'm not going to take this part 629 00:25:19,605 --> 00:25:21,607 that my agent really wants me to do," 630 00:25:21,737 --> 00:25:24,131 or, "I'm going to -- I'm going to take some time off, 631 00:25:24,218 --> 00:25:26,525 even though I'm really, like, hot right now"? 632 00:25:26,612 --> 00:25:29,136 I think kids helped that for me personally, 633 00:25:29,223 --> 00:25:30,746 'cause I was very into --Yeah. 634 00:25:30,877 --> 00:25:33,444 Yeah, I think, you know, you're -- you're a product. 635 00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:35,055 You're kind of selling a product, 636 00:25:35,098 --> 00:25:36,360 which is yourself in some way, 637 00:25:36,404 --> 00:25:37,884 especially when you're starting out. 638 00:25:37,971 --> 00:25:41,278 Um, but I guess having kids, 639 00:25:41,409 --> 00:25:45,195 suddenly you realize that some of it doesn't matter. 640 00:25:45,282 --> 00:25:47,328 Do you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter 641 00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:48,677 in the broad scheme of things. 642 00:25:48,764 --> 00:25:50,331 And that gave me a bit of perspective, 643 00:25:50,461 --> 00:25:51,724 'cause when I was a young actor, I was just like, 644 00:25:51,854 --> 00:25:53,552 "Ah," rather hungry, you know. 645 00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:56,642 Have to jump from job to job and fucking all that stuff. 646 00:25:56,772 --> 00:25:59,166 Um, but it gave me a bit of perspective around, 647 00:25:59,209 --> 00:26:02,996 like, I don't want to take your kids out of school 648 00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:07,043 or do that just because it seems sexy or whatever at the time. 649 00:26:07,130 --> 00:26:09,611 That -- That gave me a bit of perspective. 650 00:26:09,698 --> 00:26:12,092 And obviously stopping taking all the Class A drugs 651 00:26:12,179 --> 00:26:13,267 helped as well. 652 00:26:13,354 --> 00:26:14,398 I'm joking, I'm joking. 653 00:26:14,485 --> 00:26:16,923 [Laughter] 654 00:26:21,144 --> 00:26:23,190 Anyone else?No, I would agree with that. 655 00:26:23,277 --> 00:26:26,672 My kids changed a lot for me, dude. 656 00:26:26,715 --> 00:26:30,501 My dad, you know, dropped out of school in eighth grade. 657 00:26:30,545 --> 00:26:33,330 My mom went to a Negro-appointed high school. 658 00:26:33,417 --> 00:26:37,944 So looking at that, I left home with $435. 659 00:26:38,074 --> 00:26:40,947 So I want to give my kids the opportunity 660 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:45,299 of leaving home with the -- the -- the advantage 661 00:26:45,386 --> 00:26:47,910 that all my classmates had when I got to school. 662 00:26:47,997 --> 00:26:50,565 Like, I had a classmate who, you know, 663 00:26:50,696 --> 00:26:54,525 backpacked across Europe for a year after high school. 664 00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:57,659 I was like, "How the hell? You just walked across a -- 665 00:26:57,703 --> 00:26:58,878 What?!" 666 00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:01,358 [Laughter]"That's a thing?" 667 00:27:01,402 --> 00:27:03,056 -"That's a thing?" -What?! 668 00:27:03,186 --> 00:27:05,711 -"That's a thing?" -Like, coming from New Orleans, 669 00:27:05,798 --> 00:27:08,322 every day was a, you know -- 670 00:27:08,409 --> 00:27:10,454 an idea of, how are you going to eat? 671 00:27:10,541 --> 00:27:12,021 -Yeah. -It's a struggle. 672 00:27:12,065 --> 00:27:14,067 So having kids now and looking at my kids, 673 00:27:14,197 --> 00:27:19,072 I'm like, I never want them to experience the -- the struggle. 674 00:27:19,159 --> 00:27:20,856 I want them to have the pain. 675 00:27:20,943 --> 00:27:22,553 I want them to know what it takes, 676 00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:25,687 that the regular American man experiences 677 00:27:25,774 --> 00:27:27,254 trying to put a meal on the table. 678 00:27:27,341 --> 00:27:29,125 But I don't want them to have the pain -- 679 00:27:29,256 --> 00:27:30,953 I mean the struggle, you know? 680 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,565 So it's a -- it's a dangerous negotiation, you know. 681 00:27:34,696 --> 00:27:36,437 -'Cause you can't spare them. -Yeah. 682 00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:38,613 You kind of have to set them up not for failure, 683 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:40,484 but for the idea that they're going to have to fight for it. 684 00:27:40,571 --> 00:27:42,356 You're going to have to fight for it. 685 00:27:42,399 --> 00:27:44,184 Yeah, yeah, if you just give them anything -- 686 00:27:44,271 --> 00:27:45,446 It doesn't mean anything if they don't fight for it. 687 00:27:45,489 --> 00:27:47,317 -Yeah. -You know? Yeah. 688 00:27:47,404 --> 00:27:49,319 I tell my boys, I'm like, "Yo, I'm the coolest mother--" 689 00:27:49,406 --> 00:27:51,713 I'm -- I'm the dad everybody wants. 690 00:27:51,757 --> 00:27:53,149 Yeah. 691 00:27:53,236 --> 00:27:55,499 And my sons don't watch Marvel movies. 692 00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:58,372 They don't. They have no idea. 693 00:27:58,459 --> 00:28:00,069 Like, I'll FaceTime Sebastian. 694 00:28:00,156 --> 00:28:01,549 I'm like, "Yo, man." 695 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:02,637 I'm like, "Yo, say what's up to my son." 696 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:04,073 And he's like, "Hey." 697 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,510 Dude! 698 00:28:06,597 --> 00:28:08,469 Like, it's just -- it's really they don't -- 699 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:10,384 to them, I'm Dad. 700 00:28:10,471 --> 00:28:12,081 -That's right. -You know. 701 00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:15,824 And that's what I've been working so hard towards. 702 00:28:15,955 --> 00:28:18,827 But what -- when is -- what is that cutoff point 703 00:28:18,914 --> 00:28:23,092 when you decide to coach soccer 704 00:28:23,179 --> 00:28:27,096 as opposed to filling the coffers for their future? 705 00:28:27,183 --> 00:28:30,578 What is the best feedback professionally 706 00:28:30,621 --> 00:28:32,232 that you've gotten from your children 707 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:34,625 or in your case, obviously, the most humbling? 708 00:28:34,713 --> 00:28:36,453 -Yes. Yeah. -Lack of feedback. 709 00:28:36,540 --> 00:28:38,629 "You saw my movie?" "Nah!" 710 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,501 "Come on, Dad. You can do better." 711 00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:42,938 Oh, no. 712 00:28:42,982 --> 00:28:44,984 At what? 713 00:28:45,071 --> 00:28:46,550 "Last night was better, Dad." 714 00:28:46,637 --> 00:28:47,943 Last night's performance. Tonight's? 715 00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:49,684 -With your shows? -With my shows. 716 00:28:49,728 --> 00:28:51,425 Last night -- In theater. 717 00:28:51,512 --> 00:28:53,427 No. In the meantime, there were like five or six. 718 00:28:53,557 --> 00:28:56,082 Like, "Yeah, last night was better, Dad." 719 00:28:56,169 --> 00:28:57,692 Kelsey: "Well, that's how it goes, son. 720 00:28:57,779 --> 00:28:58,867 You know, some days are better than others." 721 00:28:58,998 --> 00:29:00,303 "Good. That's true. That's -- 722 00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:02,915 Thank you. I'll make a note of it." 723 00:29:03,002 --> 00:29:05,874 My kids are most thrilled about, uh, cartoon performances. 724 00:29:05,961 --> 00:29:07,484 -Yeah. -Yeah. 725 00:29:07,615 --> 00:29:08,964 -When I voice-over. -Right, right, right. 726 00:29:09,051 --> 00:29:11,097 I've got a new -- I'm playing a toilet bowl 727 00:29:11,227 --> 00:29:13,360 on "The Patrick Star Show" next week. 728 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:15,710 They're thrilled about that.That's gonna be big for you. 729 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,930 My 9-year-old wants to come and see, 730 00:29:17,973 --> 00:29:20,367 watch the recording and see how it goes. 731 00:29:20,454 --> 00:29:22,238 -That's cute. -Yeah. 732 00:29:22,325 --> 00:29:25,024 More of our comedy actors roundtable coming right up. 733 00:29:25,111 --> 00:29:31,117 ♪♪ 734 00:29:32,727 --> 00:29:38,559 ♪ 735 00:29:38,689 --> 00:29:40,953 Sometimes the quickest way to get your face on TV 736 00:29:41,083 --> 00:29:42,824 is to get your pen in the writers' room, 737 00:29:42,911 --> 00:29:45,392 and Bowen Yang is a perfect example. 738 00:29:45,479 --> 00:29:47,916 Bowen, I'm going to throw another quote...I don't have kids. Yeah. 739 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,962 ...that you have back in your face. 740 00:29:50,049 --> 00:29:51,267 Okay. Uh-oh. 741 00:29:51,354 --> 00:29:53,095 You said in the same interview 742 00:29:53,182 --> 00:29:55,315 where the other made-up quote happened 743 00:29:55,358 --> 00:29:57,665 that you -- this was the season 744 00:29:57,796 --> 00:30:00,886 that you sort of really let go on "SNL." 745 00:30:00,973 --> 00:30:04,237 What does that look like in the writers' room and onstage? 746 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,893 I think I kind of threw out any preconceived notions 747 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:10,765 that I had about myself, 'cause I think I was absorbing 748 00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:12,506 other people's expectations, right? 749 00:30:12,593 --> 00:30:18,120 Like, I think I was playing a lot of campy, 750 00:30:18,164 --> 00:30:19,905 loud, broad characters for a while. 751 00:30:19,948 --> 00:30:21,341 It's a sketch show. 752 00:30:21,384 --> 00:30:23,038 Like, there's -- there's room for that. 753 00:30:23,125 --> 00:30:24,779 It kind of celebrates that more than anything else. 754 00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:29,001 But, like, um, look, I-I will reveal to this table 755 00:30:29,131 --> 00:30:30,916 we -- we wrote, like, um -- 756 00:30:31,003 --> 00:30:33,353 And it was a purely loving tribute to Sylvester Stallone, 757 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,137 but, like, we were -- we were -- 758 00:30:35,224 --> 00:30:36,660 we were, like, talking about Stallone. 759 00:30:36,747 --> 00:30:38,575 And I was like, "I think I've got a Stallone. 760 00:30:38,706 --> 00:30:40,360 I think I've got a Sly." I'm not going to do it here. 761 00:30:40,447 --> 00:30:42,057 But, like, that was, like -- 762 00:30:42,144 --> 00:30:43,754 I think internally to the people at work 763 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:45,626 at the table read, like, they saw that, I think. 764 00:30:45,713 --> 00:30:47,454 People were like, "I didn't know you could do that." 765 00:30:47,497 --> 00:30:51,023 Like, I think people are kind of locked into an idea 766 00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:53,329 of what any of us as performers can do. 767 00:30:53,416 --> 00:30:54,896 It's like that type thing you were asking about earlier, 768 00:30:54,983 --> 00:30:58,073 and I think letting go this season 769 00:30:58,117 --> 00:31:01,860 has meant kind of building from scratch again, 770 00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:03,383 which has just been really nice. 771 00:31:03,513 --> 00:31:06,299 I never thought I'd have that, um, reset. 772 00:31:06,429 --> 00:31:07,953 It's not comfort. 773 00:31:07,996 --> 00:31:09,606 I think if you're comfortable at any place 774 00:31:09,693 --> 00:31:11,304 or if you're comfortable at "SNL," 775 00:31:11,391 --> 00:31:13,306 then, like, that's probably not a good sign. 776 00:31:13,393 --> 00:31:15,917 -Yeah. -Um, but I -- 777 00:31:16,004 --> 00:31:18,180 I think that's what I probably meant by that quote. 778 00:31:18,267 --> 00:31:20,182 -Yeah. -I remember saying that. 779 00:31:20,269 --> 00:31:21,705 [Laughter] 780 00:31:21,792 --> 00:31:22,968 -I remember saying -- -I read that . 781 00:31:23,055 --> 00:31:25,057 Anthony read that one, too. 782 00:31:25,144 --> 00:31:26,972 [Laughter] 783 00:31:27,059 --> 00:31:31,193 No, but, Ricky, your last two roles were so different, 784 00:31:31,324 --> 00:31:32,803 but they had one through line, 785 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,719 and that was shirtless in Florida 786 00:31:35,806 --> 00:31:37,634 or L.A. subbing for Florida. 787 00:31:37,678 --> 00:31:40,637 Is that by design or that's what you're going for? 788 00:31:40,681 --> 00:31:42,335 Or is that what Hollywood expects of you? 789 00:31:42,378 --> 00:31:44,337 You have a tattoo of that, don't you? Shirtless. 790 00:31:44,424 --> 00:31:49,516 Shirtless.It's a very important part of the -- of the deal. 791 00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:53,520 No. I mean, it's -- it's -- that's the way it was written. 792 00:31:53,607 --> 00:31:55,870 And the first one was "The Assassination of Gianni Versace," 793 00:31:56,001 --> 00:32:00,744 and -- and -- and, you know, it was Miami in the '80s, 794 00:32:00,788 --> 00:32:02,703 so I guess you wear in your Speedos 795 00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:04,357 -and you wear no shirt. -That's what you do. 796 00:32:04,444 --> 00:32:06,359 -Yeah, yeah. -And then now 797 00:32:06,446 --> 00:32:11,059 is Palm Beach in the late '60s. 798 00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:12,626 And you're a pool boy. 799 00:32:12,713 --> 00:32:16,673 You ha-- You're a caretaker. 800 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,199 And -- And Carol Burnett, 801 00:32:20,242 --> 00:32:23,811 uh, the character want you half naked, I guess. 802 00:32:23,898 --> 00:32:25,595 I don't know. You just go with it and you own it. 803 00:32:25,682 --> 00:32:27,423 -And -- And -- -But it's endemic to the story. 804 00:32:27,554 --> 00:32:29,164 It is part of the story. 805 00:32:29,251 --> 00:32:30,600 So you don't -- you don't think about it twice. 806 00:32:30,687 --> 00:32:33,038 These are very deep -- uh, deep characters, 807 00:32:33,125 --> 00:32:36,171 and -- and -- and the story behind them are very intense, 808 00:32:36,258 --> 00:32:39,000 and -- and that's the kind of thing I like to do. 809 00:32:39,087 --> 00:32:41,481 It's based on a book, was it?It's based on a book. 810 00:32:41,568 --> 00:32:43,526 And is that fiction or based on a real -- 811 00:32:43,570 --> 00:32:44,919 No, it's fiction. 812 00:32:45,006 --> 00:32:46,051 Everybody wants to be part of this -- 813 00:32:46,094 --> 00:32:48,140 this -- this social club. 814 00:32:48,183 --> 00:32:52,318 It's the wealth of Palm Beach and the glamour and the fashion 815 00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:54,885 but also the darkness behind it 816 00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:58,585 and -- and their secrets and their -- their -- their pain. 817 00:32:58,628 --> 00:33:04,373 And -- And -- And this character knows everyone's secret, 818 00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:06,767 and -- and it's -- it's a very powerful character. 819 00:33:06,854 --> 00:33:08,725 So I'm very happy to be half naked half of the show. 820 00:33:08,812 --> 00:33:09,900 I don't care. 821 00:33:10,031 --> 00:33:11,815 [Laughter] 822 00:33:11,902 --> 00:33:15,471 Can everyone tell me about the weirdest fan interaction 823 00:33:15,558 --> 00:33:16,907 they've ever had? 824 00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:19,998 I had one, uh, where I was at a bar, 825 00:33:20,041 --> 00:33:22,609 and these people were sitting opposite. 826 00:33:22,696 --> 00:33:24,698 We were just having a glass of wine, whatever. 827 00:33:24,785 --> 00:33:27,135 And the girl goes, "Excuse me." 828 00:33:27,222 --> 00:33:29,746 And I was like, "Oh, God. Here you go." 829 00:33:29,833 --> 00:33:32,488 She's like, "Your fly is undone." 830 00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:33,968 [Laughter] 831 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:35,839 "Also love the show," 832 00:33:35,926 --> 00:33:37,885 but in, like -- kind of in a cutting way. 833 00:33:37,972 --> 00:33:39,582 I was like, "Do you? 834 00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:41,497 I'm very confused about this whole interaction." 835 00:33:41,584 --> 00:33:43,412 Zipped up my fly. 836 00:33:43,499 --> 00:33:44,935 Man: Oh, my God. 837 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:46,546 Anthony, is it Marvel? 838 00:33:46,676 --> 00:33:48,374 Uh, no. 839 00:33:48,461 --> 00:33:51,333 Actually, I was in Vancouver shooting "Altered Carbon," 840 00:33:51,420 --> 00:33:53,292 and this is a very long story, 841 00:33:53,379 --> 00:33:56,425 so I'mma truncate it drastically and miss a lot of points. 842 00:33:56,556 --> 00:33:58,384 See this young lady across the bar. 843 00:33:58,471 --> 00:34:00,864 So I tell the bartender, "Yo, tell her come over, say hello." 844 00:34:00,951 --> 00:34:03,171 She makes her way around the bar, 845 00:34:03,215 --> 00:34:06,000 and everybody in the restaurant is like, "He's so nice." 846 00:34:06,044 --> 00:34:08,871 'Cause I went to this restaurant like every day 847 00:34:08,958 --> 00:34:10,396 'cause they had an oyster happy hour. 848 00:34:10,483 --> 00:34:11,831 She comes around the bar. 849 00:34:11,918 --> 00:34:13,312 She's like, "Can we take a picture?" 850 00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:14,922 Like, "Look, I can't take a picture with you. 851 00:34:15,009 --> 00:34:16,445 Everybody in the restaurant is looking." 852 00:34:16,489 --> 00:34:18,404 She goes, "Oh, no." She starts crying. 853 00:34:18,447 --> 00:34:19,882 And everybody in the restaurant is like, "You're an asshole." 854 00:34:19,969 --> 00:34:21,581 And I was like, "Well, give me your phone. 855 00:34:21,668 --> 00:34:23,190 If you're discreet, I can hold the camera down, 856 00:34:23,277 --> 00:34:24,931 take a picture." She goes, "Oh, my God." 857 00:34:25,018 --> 00:34:26,889 And everybody in the restaurant goes, "Yay!" right? 858 00:34:26,934 --> 00:34:30,503 So I take the picture and I tell her, "You have photo approval. 859 00:34:30,632 --> 00:34:32,418 If you don't like it, we can take another one." 860 00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:34,507 Everyone hearts melts. She looks at it. 861 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:37,684 She goes, "Uh...[Stammers]" [Imitates vomiting] 862 00:34:37,771 --> 00:34:42,732 -Oh! -She pukes from here... 863 00:34:42,819 --> 00:34:45,909 -all the way down to my shoes. -Jesus Christ. 864 00:34:45,953 --> 00:34:48,695 And -- And this is after two dozen oysters, a lobster roll. 865 00:34:48,782 --> 00:34:52,090 -Oh! -She runs out of the restaurant. 866 00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:55,397 The waiter comes, and he's like, "Dude." 867 00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:56,485 [Laughter] 868 00:34:56,572 --> 00:34:58,531 He scoops me up. 869 00:34:58,618 --> 00:35:00,315 He takes a tablecloth, 870 00:35:00,359 --> 00:35:02,448 grabs me, and takes me back to the oyster, 871 00:35:02,535 --> 00:35:06,626 uh, wash-off, hoses me down in the oyster... 872 00:35:06,756 --> 00:35:09,542 -Shucking table. -To shuck you. 873 00:35:09,629 --> 00:35:12,197 They take my clothes. 874 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,503 He goes across the street to, like, T.J. Maxx 875 00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:16,331 and gets me, like, some sweatpants 876 00:35:16,418 --> 00:35:19,160 and, like, a graffiti T-shirt.That's a nice interaction. 877 00:35:19,247 --> 00:35:21,684 And I come back out, and this woman like, 878 00:35:21,771 --> 00:35:23,686 "I'm sorry. Can I take a picture?" 879 00:35:23,773 --> 00:35:25,166 [Gasps] 880 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:26,689 Same lady? 881 00:35:26,776 --> 00:35:28,604 -No. -Oh, different lady. 882 00:35:28,691 --> 00:35:29,736 Oh. 883 00:35:29,866 --> 00:35:32,217 Who saw me walking out, 884 00:35:32,304 --> 00:35:34,436 thinking I'm leaving the restaurant. 885 00:35:34,523 --> 00:35:35,742 [Laughter] 886 00:35:35,785 --> 00:35:37,657 Raw oysters from here. 887 00:35:37,787 --> 00:35:39,746 Oh, delicious. 888 00:35:39,876 --> 00:35:41,617 Hey, don't go anywhere. 889 00:35:41,704 --> 00:35:44,968 More of our comedy actors roundtable coming right up. 890 00:35:45,055 --> 00:35:50,974 ♪♪ 891 00:35:52,541 --> 00:35:58,721 ♪ 892 00:35:58,808 --> 00:36:03,378 What did everyone spend their first big paycheck on? 893 00:36:03,465 --> 00:36:07,295 Your first sort of like "I'm doing okay" splurge. 894 00:36:07,382 --> 00:36:09,776 I bought a house. 895 00:36:09,906 --> 00:36:11,125 -Big dog. -Yeah. 896 00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,692 First one. 897 00:36:12,822 --> 00:36:16,435 More than a cashmere sweater, but okay. 898 00:36:16,522 --> 00:36:18,567 I built my dream car. 899 00:36:18,698 --> 00:36:22,658 I found a 1964 1/2 Mustang in Tuxedo, New York.That's a great car. 900 00:36:22,745 --> 00:36:26,662 Brought it back down to Brooklyn to Christian Camargo's garage 901 00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:29,317 and worked on it for like three years and built it myself. 902 00:36:29,404 --> 00:36:30,797 -Yeah. -That's cool. 903 00:36:30,884 --> 00:36:32,102 -Yeah. -That's really cool. 904 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:34,148 I also bought a home and I -- 905 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:36,368 and I gave the -- the down payment of an apartment 906 00:36:36,411 --> 00:36:38,413 -for two of my best friends. -Oh. 907 00:36:38,544 --> 00:36:41,111 -That's nice. -I will rock with you, man. 908 00:36:41,242 --> 00:36:43,766 [Laughter] 909 00:36:43,897 --> 00:36:45,246 Let's go. 910 00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:46,987 Like, "This is for your apartment." 911 00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:48,902 That's pretty cool. Yeah. 912 00:36:48,989 --> 00:36:50,382 Should we hang out more often? 913 00:36:50,469 --> 00:36:52,601 [Laughter] 914 00:36:52,688 --> 00:36:55,604 I bought -- Similar, I bought an MGB GT for £1,200. 915 00:36:55,691 --> 00:36:57,345 Anthony: Oh, that's nice. 916 00:36:57,389 --> 00:36:59,260 It didn't run, but over the years, I've done it up, 917 00:36:59,347 --> 00:37:00,522 similar to you. 918 00:37:00,609 --> 00:37:01,958 You still have it?I still have it. 919 00:37:02,089 --> 00:37:03,264 Oh, dude. Come on. We're going cruising. 920 00:37:03,351 --> 00:37:05,397 Awesome. Awesome. Beautiful car. 921 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,095 The most gratifying thing was able to get my mom a house. 922 00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:09,531 -Oh. -That was great. 923 00:37:09,662 --> 00:37:11,490 Yeah. 924 00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:13,579 It's been cars and real estate this whole time. Yeah. 925 00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:17,539 I was just going to say, like, I bought Gucci shoes. 926 00:37:17,626 --> 00:37:19,759 Equally great.One man's Gucci shoes is another man's house. 927 00:37:19,846 --> 00:37:21,151 His car. Exactly. 928 00:37:21,195 --> 00:37:22,805 Car or shoes. 929 00:37:22,892 --> 00:37:25,330 Bought them off of some bum I saw on the street. 930 00:37:25,417 --> 00:37:26,853 [Laughter] 931 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:28,376 "Those are perfect." 932 00:37:28,463 --> 00:37:30,987 [Laughs] That's exactly how it happened. 933 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:34,121 What's the inevitable question that you always get asked 934 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:35,731 that you just never want to hear again? 935 00:37:35,818 --> 00:37:36,950 Cock size. 936 00:37:37,037 --> 00:37:39,605 -[Laughing] -What, what? 937 00:37:39,648 --> 00:37:42,608 -I'm sorry. -That's interesting. 938 00:37:42,651 --> 00:37:44,349 Cock size. 939 00:37:44,392 --> 00:37:46,176 I thought -- I thought he said "capsize." 940 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:48,048 Anthony: He was so ready. 941 00:37:48,135 --> 00:37:51,269 He was so ready. He was so ready. 942 00:37:51,399 --> 00:37:52,705 The slingshot was pulled back. 943 00:37:52,792 --> 00:37:54,446 I'm glad it's out there. 944 00:37:54,533 --> 00:37:56,143 [Laughter] 945 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:57,492 He's like, "Somebody gonna ask this shit. 946 00:37:57,623 --> 00:37:58,493 Oh, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready." 947 00:37:58,580 --> 00:38:00,539 Oh, my God. 948 00:38:00,582 --> 00:38:02,584 Mine, it's usually -- 949 00:38:02,671 --> 00:38:05,413 Honestly the most difficult one to answer 950 00:38:05,457 --> 00:38:08,024 is -- is, you know, "How do I get an acting career?" 951 00:38:08,111 --> 00:38:09,896 You know, that's what I get asked most of the time. 952 00:38:09,983 --> 00:38:12,290 I said, "Well, act." 953 00:38:12,377 --> 00:38:14,248 Go out and find a place to act. That's what you got to do. 954 00:38:14,335 --> 00:38:16,990 If you really believe in it, just go do it somewhere. 955 00:38:17,077 --> 00:38:19,079 Do it at your church. Do it at your local playhouse. 956 00:38:19,122 --> 00:38:21,299 Or do it in your school, whatever it's going to be. 957 00:38:21,386 --> 00:38:23,126 Get -- Get somewhere with a great play 958 00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:26,129 and read it, read it out loud and look in the mirror. 959 00:38:26,216 --> 00:38:28,044 Do what you got to do to make sure that you -- 960 00:38:28,131 --> 00:38:29,872 you're connected to the emotional life of a character. 961 00:38:30,003 --> 00:38:32,005 And -- And if you're any good at it, 962 00:38:32,048 --> 00:38:34,181 you'll find out pretty quick. 963 00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:37,053 He answered it. Never ask it again. 964 00:38:37,184 --> 00:38:38,403 [Laughter] Yes. 965 00:38:38,490 --> 00:38:40,492 Mine is take a picture. 966 00:38:40,622 --> 00:38:42,145 "Can I take a picture?" Yeah. 967 00:38:42,232 --> 00:38:44,887 They, uh -- I've had many experience -- 968 00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:46,759 'cause you don't know what social reality 969 00:38:46,846 --> 00:38:48,674 you're tying yourself to. 970 00:38:48,717 --> 00:38:50,719 You don't know what that person gonna use that picture for. 971 00:38:50,806 --> 00:38:52,286 You don't know how -- 972 00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:54,027 You know, because of the -- of the Kardashians, 973 00:38:54,157 --> 00:38:55,768 we're kind of put in this reality 974 00:38:55,811 --> 00:38:59,380 where we're looked at as -- as tools, as vessels, 975 00:38:59,467 --> 00:39:02,078 as opposed to, uh, artists, 976 00:39:02,209 --> 00:39:05,560 and there's been several experiences now 977 00:39:05,647 --> 00:39:07,780 where people have taken a picture with me 978 00:39:07,867 --> 00:39:09,129 and used them for ways that I don't deem... 979 00:39:09,259 --> 00:39:11,610 Sorry about that. Yeah. 980 00:39:11,697 --> 00:39:13,351 ...you know, the right way. 981 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:16,615 So because of that, I just -- 982 00:39:16,745 --> 00:39:19,095 I choose not to be a part of your social reality. 983 00:39:19,139 --> 00:39:20,793 -Yeah. -You know? 984 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,925 It is interesting, the melding of, you know, 985 00:39:23,012 --> 00:39:24,884 actors and celebrities 986 00:39:24,971 --> 00:39:26,755 where there used to be more difference.Completely different. 987 00:39:26,842 --> 00:39:29,149 And now people -- they're conflated into the same thing. 988 00:39:29,236 --> 00:39:31,499 Right.But it's like I have no interest in that other part. 989 00:39:31,586 --> 00:39:32,935 -Right. -It's the job. 990 00:39:33,022 --> 00:39:34,589 -It's what I do, you know? -Yeah. 991 00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:36,461 Um, but the assumption that you're that, 992 00:39:36,548 --> 00:39:37,766 as well, is frustrating.Right. 993 00:39:37,853 --> 00:39:39,289 I have people tell me all the time, 994 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:41,509 "Well, this is what you signed up for." 995 00:39:41,596 --> 00:39:43,990 I'm like -- I'm like, "That's crazy." 996 00:39:44,033 --> 00:39:45,992 That's like telling a girl 997 00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,125 that because she got -- put on a cute dress and went to a bar, 998 00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:51,693 she signed up for me to harass her all night. 999 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:53,391 No, no. 1000 00:39:53,478 --> 00:39:55,480 In this day and age, we literally learn 1001 00:39:55,567 --> 00:39:57,873 that we have to respect everyone's no. 1002 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,659 So if I tell you no, respect it. 1003 00:40:00,746 --> 00:40:02,574 And there's a reason for that. 1004 00:40:02,661 --> 00:40:04,924 For me, it's -- not to make it about work again, 1005 00:40:04,967 --> 00:40:06,752 but it is always people asking, 1006 00:40:06,795 --> 00:40:08,406 "What is the week like at 'SNL'?" 1007 00:40:08,536 --> 00:40:10,320 Because it's such a long answer. 1008 00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:13,323 I think I asked that question. Aah! 1009 00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:14,673 -I'll tell you. Monday we -- -Make a form letter. 1010 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,588 -What's that? -Make a form letter. 1011 00:40:16,675 --> 00:40:18,285 I know. It is -- Like, it's like what Kelsey's saying. 1012 00:40:18,372 --> 00:40:20,592 It's like it is a long -- It's -- 1013 00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:22,724 It's like if you give people that advice about acting, 1014 00:40:22,811 --> 00:40:24,726 it's like that's the advice they don't want to hear. 1015 00:40:24,857 --> 00:40:26,293 You know what I mean? 1016 00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:27,860 Like, I'm about to give you such a boring, 1017 00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:30,645 dry, like, rundown of what the week is like. 1018 00:40:30,776 --> 00:40:32,734 And, you know, it's -- it's when you feel 1019 00:40:32,821 --> 00:40:34,301 like you've disappointed them in your answer 1020 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:36,216 that you feel like, "Oh, well..." 1021 00:40:36,259 --> 00:40:38,131 -Totally there. Totally there. -Or midway in your answer, 1022 00:40:38,174 --> 00:40:40,394 -they're like, "Mmmmm." -Yeah, yeah. Exactly. 1023 00:40:40,481 --> 00:40:41,613 "I really didn't want an answer." 1024 00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:43,702 They're fucking checked out. 1025 00:40:43,789 --> 00:40:45,704 "I just wanted a picture."Right. "Shut up and take a picture." 1026 00:40:45,791 --> 00:40:47,314 Don't give a fuck.Ricky: Getting the phone ready for the picture. 1027 00:40:47,401 --> 00:40:48,924 There's a game, 1028 00:40:49,011 --> 00:40:51,187 and it probably doesn't happen with you guys, 1029 00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:54,713 but, uh, it's like, "Where do I know you from?" 1030 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,802 -Yeah. -Oh. 1031 00:40:56,889 --> 00:40:59,587 You want to -- And I'm like, "I don't know," whatever. 1032 00:40:59,631 --> 00:41:01,197 And it's a fucking -- And then you're getting up. 1033 00:41:01,284 --> 00:41:02,677 And they're like, "No, no, no, wait, wait, wait." 1034 00:41:02,764 --> 00:41:04,679 And it's a game and blah, blah, blah. 1035 00:41:04,723 --> 00:41:05,898 And then, you know, they expect you to 1036 00:41:06,028 --> 00:41:07,987 reel out your CV, 1037 00:41:08,074 --> 00:41:09,292 and they're like, "No, never heard of that. 1038 00:41:09,379 --> 00:41:10,685 Sounds shit." 1039 00:41:10,816 --> 00:41:12,470 [Laughs] No, no, that's a different thing. 1040 00:41:12,557 --> 00:41:14,297 But that game of kind of -- 1041 00:41:14,384 --> 00:41:16,256 It's like if someone's going to just say, 1042 00:41:16,386 --> 00:41:18,954 you know, "Oh, hey," notice, whatever, that's fine. 1043 00:41:19,041 --> 00:41:23,263 It's an interaction, but a kind of -- a frisson 1044 00:41:23,306 --> 00:41:26,135 that someone wants to happen in a kind of sexy way. 1045 00:41:26,222 --> 00:41:28,181 You know, "What is this?" 1046 00:41:28,311 --> 00:41:30,444 That's -- I find that irritating. 1047 00:41:30,531 --> 00:41:32,446 That question. "Ricky, are you gay?" 1048 00:41:32,533 --> 00:41:35,014 Are you kidding me? You don't know by now? 1049 00:41:35,144 --> 00:41:37,407 What are you talking about? 1050 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:38,887 -Moving on. -Are you sure? 1051 00:41:38,974 --> 00:41:41,237 [Laughter] 1052 00:41:41,324 --> 00:41:42,674 I read that, I read that. 1053 00:41:42,761 --> 00:41:43,762 You read that? 1054 00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:45,111 [Laughter] 1055 00:41:45,154 --> 00:41:47,069 I wish people would ask me. 1056 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,244 [Laughter] 1057 00:41:48,375 --> 00:41:51,247 People know. 1058 00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:53,336 Thank you all so much for doing this. 1059 00:41:53,423 --> 00:41:54,816 -Um, let's raise a glass. -Thanks, Yvonne. 1060 00:41:54,947 --> 00:41:56,775 -Ah. -Thanks, Yvonne. 1061 00:41:56,862 --> 00:41:57,993 -Thanks, Mikey. Thanks, Yvonne. -I've been waiting for this. 1062 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,299 I've drank all of mine already. 1063 00:41:59,386 --> 00:42:01,344 I do like the champagne idea. 1064 00:42:01,431 --> 00:42:03,216 Gentlemen.Alright, we're back, we're back. 1065 00:42:03,259 --> 00:42:04,565 -Wonderful to see you. -Cheers. 1066 00:42:04,696 --> 00:42:07,046 -Really a pleasure. -Cheers. Cheers. 1067 00:42:07,176 --> 00:42:09,178 Well, that was an exciting conversation. 1068 00:42:09,222 --> 00:42:10,876 And I guess I did drink that drink. 1069 00:42:10,963 --> 00:42:14,662 When that happen? Hey, Janess, I'll have another. 1070 00:42:14,749 --> 00:42:16,664 Until next time, I'm Yvonne Orji, 1071 00:42:16,751 --> 00:42:19,406 and this has been "Off Script With The Hollywood Reporter." 1072 00:42:19,493 --> 00:42:24,411 ♪♪