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[soft music playing]

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[Drake Bell] Back then...

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It was a different time,
so I think it was

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a little easier to go to
and from a courthouse

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and not worry about Twitter

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that night or TMZ paparazzi's
being there.

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On the day of sentencing
for Brian,

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I get to the courthouse.

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[scoffs]

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It was the most
unbelievable thing
I'd ever seen.

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His entire side of
the courtroom

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was full.

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Full.

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There were definitely
some recognizable faces

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on that side of the room.

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And my side was...

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me, my mom, and my brother.

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Brian had been convicted,
but getting all of
this support

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from a lot of people
in the industry and...

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Yeah, I was pretty shocked.

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My mom got up.
She had a statement.

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I wasn't going
to address Brian.

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There was no reason to.

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I addressed my statement
to everyone in the room.

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I looked at all of them.

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And I just said,
"How dare you?"

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And I said,

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"You will forever have
the memory of sitting in

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this courtroom and defending
this person.

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And I will forever have
the memory of the person

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you're defending
violating me...

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and doing unspeakable acts
and crimes.

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And that's what
I'll remember."

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[opening theme music playing]

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[Kate] In the end,
Brian pleads no contest

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to two charges of
child sexual abuse.

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And the judge sentences him
to 16 months in jail

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and ordered him to register
as a sex offender.

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But we wanted to understand
who in Hollywood

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was supporting Brian
through this.

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So we petitioned the court
to unseal

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the letters of support
in this case.

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Letters of support are meant
to influence the judge

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during the sentencing.

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In this case,
most of them are asking

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the judge just to give
Brian probation.

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These 41 letters
have been kept under seal

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for two decades.

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Some are from family,
some are from friends.

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Dan Schneider does not write
a letter.

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Top executives at Nickelodeon
do not write letters,

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but some are
from Hollywood insiders.

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You have the actor
James Marsden.

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He writes in the letter,
[reading line]

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James Marsden writes that
he's known Brian Peck
for 14 years,

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since Marsden himself
was a teenager.

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Taran Killam also wrote
a letter of support.

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He writes, "I've seen
the effects this situation

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has had on Brian,
and I know for a fact that

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he regrets any mistakes made."

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Some other people who
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include the famous sitcom dad,
Alan Thicke.

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The X-Men producer,
Tom DeSanto.

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Ron Melendez,
another very well-known actor.

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Rider Strong wrote
a letter of support for Brian.

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And Will Friedle from
Boy Meets World.

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We don't know exactly what
these people were told about

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Brian's crimes before
they wrote the letters.

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And we don't know which of
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were in the courtroom
for Brian's sentencing.

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But these letters show
how strong the support

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for Brian Peck was with people
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Outside of these individuals,
there were over a dozen

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other letter writers
who used similar language

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to blame the victim,
saying that this

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wouldn't have happened
unless Brian was tempted.

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Joanna Kerns,
who met Brian
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on Growing Pains, wrote,
"I can only believe that

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there must have been
some extreme situation
or temptation

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exerted upon him
to influence his actions."

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Kimmy Robertson
is an actress.

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She wrote,
[reading line]

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This logic is just
victim-blaming.

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When this minor suffered
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who was in a very senior,
almost parental position
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There are people who worked
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on The Amanda Show,

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like the director,
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and the stage manager,
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Rich says that,

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"it would be my pleasure
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In fact, Brian Peck
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on the Disney Channel show,
Suite Life of Zack and Cody.

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It shows that there are not
enough protections in place

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to keep even convicted
sexual predators off
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[Anne] In 2005,
there was another case.

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Ezell Channel,
a worker at
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in Burbank,
he brought a child to the lot,

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a boy, and was convicted of
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He actually had prior
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and Nickelodeon
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Jason Michael Handy,

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Brian Peck,

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and then Ezell Channel.

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These are three predators
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all in a short amount of time.

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[Kate] Around this time,
Nickelodeon did expand
its policy

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around background checks
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When you look at
having multiple
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who worked at Nickelodeon,
it raises some confusing
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on who to hold accountable.

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I don't think that
you can blame Schneider

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for hiring Brian Peck
because he was not

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a registered sex offender
when he hired him.

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Drake very explicitly does not
blame Dan for any of this.

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But it's clear that the system
needs to look at

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if it is doing enough
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Oh, that's not so bad.

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-It's not so bad?
-No, it's all right.

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[Kate] After these arrests,
Nickelodeon only grows.

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Hey. Thank you for being here.

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-[indistinct chatter]
-[woman] Jamie, this way!

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It was actually
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so it's really fun for me.

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The mid-2000s is somewhat of
a golden era for Nickelodeon.

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There is a spate of
popular new shows.

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Dan Schneider is helping
launch a new era of
breakout stars.

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Jamie Lynn Spears in Zoey 101.

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-Zoey!
-Hi!

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Hi!

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[Scaachi] Victoria Justice
in Victorious.

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Just let me... [screams]

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Ariana Grande,
who we now know

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as a very famous pop star,
and Jeanette McCurdy
in Sam and Cat.

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I am really smart.

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This is also the time
that Drake and Josh
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If you've got a tween
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then you know Drake and Josh.

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People know you from
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on Nickelodeon,
hugely popular.

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[Scaachi] Nickelodeon is
making a lot of money,

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and Dan Schneider
is becoming even
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and more powerful,
an even bigger name
in his own right.

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His shows are
cultural juggernauts,

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especially iCarly starring
Miranda Cosgrove.

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I'm Carly Shay,
and this is our
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of a little show
we call iCarly.

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If you've got a child aged
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or even a daughter like mine
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chances are she's watched
Nickelodeon's iCarly.

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It is a ratings blockbuster.

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-[all laughing]
-[man] And that's our show!

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[all cheering]

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It hit at just a particular
cultural moment.

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It was the early years of
the Internet.

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iCarly is this Internet show.

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It felt cutting edge
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This is pre-YouTube
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So there was also
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that I think hit people
in a way that
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And because it did,
it just exploded.

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At one point,
they did an episode

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where Michelle Obama shows up
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I'm on iCarly!

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With the success of iCarly,
Dan is able to

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consolidate power at
Nickelodeon in
a whole new way.

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And this is around the time
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starts truly competing
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They had massive hits
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and The Suite Life
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So as Nickelodeon
is facing all of
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Dan is their answer.

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It really launches Dan
into this whole new level
of stardom.

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[reporter] He's Dan Schneider,
a man with a gift,

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the gift of knowing
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a certain age, say,
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What do you got going
that other folks
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For one thing,
I am always trying to outdo

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the last thing that I did.

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Fred Wad.

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[Rick]
Dan Schneider was always
really tech-savvy.

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He loves technology.

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And so when the web started
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he was one of the first people
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doing videos.

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[Dan] Oh, she almost sits,
but she fakes out
the cameraman, which is me.

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[Rick]
Posting videos on social media
and original stuff.

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Some of these seem
pretty innocuous,

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where it's Dan recording
the editing bay.

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[Dan] I'm in the editing
room of iCarly,

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and we're working on
the next episode.

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Okay, take one.

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[Kate] Or the writer's room.

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[Dan] Okay,
this is Dan Schneider.

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I'm here with some of
the iCarly writers.

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Hello, iCarly writers.

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But in these videos,
you can really see
the power play

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between him and his cast.

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It's a lot of him getting into
people's physical space,

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and you can see palpable
discomfort on people's faces.

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[Dan whispers]
Trying to scare Jeanette.

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[Scaachi] There's one video
in particular where Dan

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creeps behind Jeanette

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-[Dan yells]
-[screams]

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[Scaachi] It scares her.

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My gosh,
that scared me so much.

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But she can't say,
I didn't like that,

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or she can't not have
a sense of humor about it,

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and she can't not play
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because she has to.

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-[screams]
-Oh.

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You have to be nice,
because that's the only way

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that you're gonna get through.

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-Whoo!
-[all laughing]

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For Dan, it was about power
at that point.

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And when you are someone
who wants more and more power,

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eventually you're gonna fly
too close to the sun.

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One, two, three!

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[Dan] The kid audience
is definitely my bread
and butter.

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I mean, that's what
I'm paid to do.

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I'm paid to get kids
all the way from six to 14

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glued to TV sets.

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That's my goal.
That's the sweet spot.

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[Kate] By the late 2000s,
Dan had more control than

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pretty much any showrunner
at Nickelodeon.

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He had created his own
little fiefdom.

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[Dan] All right,
we're getting ready to fly.

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[Scaachi] But his style had
a little bit of edge in it.

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It also really pushed
the boundaries of sexualizing

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young girls.

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It's so cold!

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Wanna get slapped
with a sausage?

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Sure.

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[Kate] There are jokes about
being slapped with a sausage.

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There's a joke about
being on the wood.

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I want to be on the wood.
What's the wood?
I want to be on it.

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You have actors shaking
weights in a way

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that seems
very clearly sexual.

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And these actors,
for the most part, are minors.

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♪ Gonna make it on my own

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Another of Dan's shows,
Zoey 101,

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is this high school
boarding school,

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California experience.

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I was 12 years old
when I started Zoey 101.

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Ooh, cute boy to the left,
green shirt, backpack.

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When I look back at it,
my character

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was there for the boys.

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Nicole was the archetype
of male gaze female,

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where she was girly,
very short,

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short skirts and pink.

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Like kid eye candy.

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How about this top?
You like this top?

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It makes me look chesty.

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We don't need to be
hyper-conservative
of bodies,

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but that didn't represent even
me as a girl at that age.

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[costumer] Definitely Dan
liked cute, pretty, flirty.

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I worked in the wardrobe
department on Zoey 101.

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I always thought that Dan
had a little bit of

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an arrested development,
and he was like that boy that

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wanted the cute girl
to like him.

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I cannot believe I have
two book reports due
in one month.

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[Scaachi] You put
these girls in bikinis

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and bathing suits,
which is fine.

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I think teenage girls
should feel free to wear
whatever they'd like.

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But when you are using
nubile sexuality

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as a marketing tool,
that's where it gets sticky.

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One of the most disturbing
memories that I have

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would probably be
the backpack episode

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with Jamie Lynn Spears.

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You just bite the tip.

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There are these goo pops,
and my character

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can't get it open.

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It's not coming out.

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And it ends up...

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squirting onto Jamie's face.

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So the prop person comes onto
set with a syringe.

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We all, like, stood behind
the camera to watch.

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It lands on her face.

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So first it was Dan roaring,
laughing,

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and then everyone
kind of giggling.

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We heard the boys saying,
"It's a [bleep] shot."

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And I had no idea...

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what that meant.

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Once I saw it again
as an adult

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was when that memory
came back.

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I was like, "Oh, oh, oh, oh."

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Wasn't funny.

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It still isn't funny to me,
to be honest.

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It's just like, that's a kid.

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And she was on set that day
and...

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Sorry.
Just as a mom, like,

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If my daughter was ever put in
the... It's gross.

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Like, there's just...

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It's appalling behavior on
all the adults' behalf
that day.

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In my mind,
a kids' show should be

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exactly what it is,
a kids' show.

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And sometimes there were
scenes where there was a prop

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that was like...

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What's he doing?

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Hmm, that could be
a sexual innuendo.

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Those are good ones.

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Mmm.

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[Alexa] Dan went overboard
and just zoomed in
too often on the feet.

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Wow, they're really soft.

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Zoomed in too often on
the tongue licking things

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or something that
just went too far.

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[woman] Was anyone able
to say anything
or is that like...

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Oh, no, no.
This is, it's Dan's baby.

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Dan was Nickelodeon's
golden boy.

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And even if he and the network
were at odds,

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he had the power to push back.

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It was very hard to say
anything to him.

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And his show, Victorious,
took this to a whole
new level.

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With that show,
there were online extras that

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the network did not fully know
how to deal with.

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Time for your nap, tomatoes.

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In some of them,
you see Ariana putting
tomatoes in a bra.

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Check this out.

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[Kate] There are several
scenes with Ariana Grande

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that are really I think
almost difficult to see

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as anything but sexual
watching them now.

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Mmm, I'm thirsty.

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[squeals]

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-[grunts]
-[Scaachi]
She's effectively massaging

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a potato.

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Come on, give up the juice.

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[Scaachi] That's a little...
[chuckles]

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[bleep] shaped perhaps.

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We're adults,
so we know what's going on,

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but this is a show for kids.

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So...

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who is sexual innuendo for
on a kids show?

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Help me up on this thing.

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00:18:39,580 --> 00:18:43,060
It's legal and there's nothing
actionable about it,

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Just lift me.

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00:18:44,170 --> 00:18:47,370
...but there is a nebulousness
around it,

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but it's morally murky.

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At the end of the day,
I love it when the cast gets

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sassy with me because I get
to write all the scripts

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with some
very talented writers,

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but I get to,
I can put them in

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any horrible predicament
I choose.

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You can touch their hair,
you can take a picture
with them,

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you can ask them
personal questions,

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00:19:06,370 --> 00:19:08,930
inappropriate ones,
whatever you want to do.

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Dan, he behaved in a way
that was pretty concerning

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and problematic,
especially when it
comes to women,

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and how he treated people
as a boss on set.

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[costumer] Something that was
always really uncomfortable

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was walking onto set
and seeing who Dan

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00:19:31,580 --> 00:19:33,930
had talked into giving him
a massage.

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00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:38,170
It was almost always
a female and it was often one

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from the wardrobe department.

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It was humiliating.

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I remember one time
sitting next to a colleague

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and she got a text
from him saying,

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"Come and massage me
on the set."

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and she said, "My God,
doesn't he know I'm doing

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two shows?

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I'm so busy,"
and I could see that

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00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,790
she was distraught,
but she went anyway.

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00:20:03,790 --> 00:20:07,270
It definitely felt like
a form of sexual harassment.

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00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:08,860
There was always someone
massaging him.

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00:20:08,860 --> 00:20:14,000
That's, like, all I remember
was some person on set

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00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,370
massaging that guy.

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00:20:15,370 --> 00:20:19,170
Dan was asking for
this incredibly
inappropriate thing

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00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,000
for almost two decades.

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00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,270
He was asking people
at work to touch him.

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00:20:24,270 --> 00:20:27,270
Everyone knew it,
from New York to California.

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00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:29,480
So who would we go to?

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00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,270
Who could we possibly go to
to complain about this?

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[Rick]
Nickelodeon could
have been there

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to be a buffer more
than they were.

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00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,480
And I don't think the network
was ever close to doing that.

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00:20:42,550 --> 00:20:45,370
Why wouldn't anybody
do anything?
Why didn't they stop him?

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00:20:45,370 --> 00:20:46,750
[indistinct chatter]

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00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:49,480
It felt like somebody
needed to rein him in,

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00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,030
and he wasn't reined in.

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[upbeat music playing]

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[Kate] In 2014, we have
the Kids' Choice Awards.

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[all cheering]

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This is Nickelodeon's
big night to celebrate
their stars.

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[Ariana] As far as award shows
or anything goes,

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Nickelodeon always does it
the funnest,
you know what I mean?

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00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,270
Nickelodeon is known for
being fun and messy and gross.

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00:21:16,270 --> 00:21:20,240
It's also the awards where
Dan is being celebrated.

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00:21:20,310 --> 00:21:22,440
I'm happy to be here
to honor Dan.

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He's created so many
amazing shows.

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Dan Schneider wins his
Lifetime Achievement Award.

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00:21:27,930 --> 00:21:31,060
[Kate] He is surrounded by
so many different people
from all his shows.

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They're talking about
how great he is.

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Thank you, Dan.

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00:21:34,030 --> 00:21:35,790
You're an inspiration!

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00:21:35,790 --> 00:21:39,370
Speaking about how key
he was to their careers.

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You not only changed
all of our lives,

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00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,340
you changed Kids TV.

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But there is one person
that does not show up.

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And that is Jeanette McCurdy,

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00:21:52,790 --> 00:21:55,030
who was the co-star
on Sam and Cat.

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00:21:55,890 --> 00:21:58,680
People were just thinking,
"Oh, that's odd."

401
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,860
She's one of the primary
people on one of his shows.

402
00:22:02,930 --> 00:22:05,650
She's been with
this guy forever.

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00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,130
Why is she not there?

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00:22:11,790 --> 00:22:13,790
[Scaachi] Eight years later,
Jeanette McCurdy publishes

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00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:16,340
a memoir about her life
as a child star,

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about the abuse that
she suffered at the hands
of her mother.

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00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:24,340
But the memoir also answers
a lot of really complicated
questions

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00:22:24,410 --> 00:22:28,060
about working as a child actor
and about Dan Schneider,

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00:22:28,060 --> 00:22:30,750
who she began working
with around age 13.

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You pull back the curtain
on child stardom.

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00:22:33,170 --> 00:22:36,860
-It is not a pretty picture.
-Not as I see it, no.

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[Scaachi]
In Jeanette's memoir,
she writes about

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an unnamed
television show creator,

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00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,340
and a lot of people
have speculated that

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that person is Dan Schneider.

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00:22:45,790 --> 00:22:48,000
She writes,
"I feel like The Creator

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00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,480
has two distinct sides.

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00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,440
One is generous
and over-the-top
complimentary.

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00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,550
The other side
is mean-spirited,

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controlling, and terrifying."

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00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,650
She's also talked in a podcast
about how this treatment
felt abusive.

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00:23:00,650 --> 00:23:03,240
There was a very abusive
producer on that show,

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00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,960
and that would not
have gone well

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00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,860
if I tried to communicate
that to him.

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00:23:06,930 --> 00:23:09,860
"He'll call people idiots,
buffoons, stupid,

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00:23:09,930 --> 00:23:14,340
dumb, sloppy, careless,
and spineless.

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00:23:14,410 --> 00:23:17,200
The creator knows how to make
someone feel worthless."

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00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,240
[indistinct on-set chatter]

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00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,820
[Kate] Dan's treatment of
people on his shows was
an open secret.

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00:23:30,270 --> 00:23:32,860
For the crew,
if you messed up,

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00:23:32,860 --> 00:23:34,370
even if it was
a minor mistake,

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00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:36,960
Dan would be someone
who would be willing
to humiliate you

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00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,550
or fire you on the spot.

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00:23:40,340 --> 00:23:44,060
[Rick] The description I got
from someone was
that everything

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00:23:44,060 --> 00:23:48,750
that Dan Schneider did
is a DEFCON 10 event.

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00:23:48,750 --> 00:23:51,960
Dan Schneider was convinced
that everything that he did,

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00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,240
the, quote,
"Passion of the way he reacted

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00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:56,750
and the way that
he approached people,"

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00:23:56,750 --> 00:23:58,440
that's what made
this magic happen.

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00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,170
That's what made these shows
a success.

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00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:06,790
[Scaachi] Culturally,
we are still doing
the tortured genius routine.

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00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:10,100
So if a guy's
a total piece of [bleep],

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he must be so good at his job.
[chuckles]

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00:24:15,030 --> 00:24:16,650
[Jennette]
There's a lot of abuse
that happens.

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00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,890
I mean,
even talking about it now,
my face gets hot.

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00:24:19,890 --> 00:24:21,340
You know,
he'd say things like,

447
00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:23,580
"You would work at Yogurtland
if you didn't work for me."

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00:24:23,580 --> 00:24:25,030
And he would just scream.

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00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,030
[Kate]
Jeanette's experience gets
a lot worse on Sam and Cat.

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And this is happening at
the same time
Jeanette's mom dies.

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00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,580
[Kate] She took less than
a week break from filming.

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And her quick return is
something that people on set

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00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440
told us that
they were disturbed by.

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[Rick] The situation got
so stressful on the set of
Sam and Cat.

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00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,550
Nickelodeon launched
an internal investigation.

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00:24:54,620 --> 00:24:57,440
[Kate] I learned that Dan
is seen as kind of
contributing

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00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,550
to this toxic culture
that is happening

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00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:04,240
and that is really making
this show a difficult place

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00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:05,580
for many people to work.

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00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:08,170
[all laughing]

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00:25:08,170 --> 00:25:10,340
[Kate] After
the investigation,
Dan Schneider

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was no longer allowed
to really interact with
the cast anymore.

463
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:17,790
Dan has always been such
a hands-on showrunner,

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00:25:17,790 --> 00:25:23,000
so for Dan,
this is the biggest punishment
you can imagine.

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00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000
[Rick] When you look at
the industry as a whole,
this never happens.

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00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000
You would be hard-pressed
to find another show

467
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,750
where they're saying, "Look,
we don't trust the guy

468
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:32,890
running the show

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00:25:32,890 --> 00:25:36,340
to deal with people
in a humane way."

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00:25:36,340 --> 00:25:39,170
But they also don't want
to get rid of him.

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00:25:39,170 --> 00:25:41,170
He creates hits.

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00:25:41,170 --> 00:25:43,130
There's money to be made.

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00:25:43,130 --> 00:25:46,370
[Scaachi] Dan Schneider can
get away with it because
he's Dan Schneider.

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00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:49,000
And powerful people in
the entertainment space

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00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,750
will make allowances for
anybody who is successful.

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00:25:53,030 --> 00:25:56,000
Until something happens
that you cannot ignore.

477
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:11,650
[dramatic music playing]

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In 2017, three years after Dan
is banned from working

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00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,650
directly with his own actors
on the set of Sam and Cat,

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00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,860
he's back on set
at Nickelodeon with
two new shows,

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00:26:27,930 --> 00:26:29,860
Henry Danger and Game Shakers.

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00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:32,680
I booked you a massage
with the massage squad.

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00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,890
But around this time,
something has shifted

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00:26:34,890 --> 00:26:38,550
culturally around workplace
harassment and toxicity.

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00:26:38,620 --> 00:26:40,580
[reporter 1] Millions of women
across the country

486
00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:42,960
-using the hashtag MeToo.
- [reporter 2] MeToo.

487
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,270
[reporter 3]
The MeToo phenomenon.

488
00:26:44,270 --> 00:26:45,860
[reporter 4] Several
allegations of
sexual harassment

489
00:26:45,930 --> 00:26:46,890
against Harvey Weinstein.

490
00:26:46,890 --> 00:26:48,240
[reporter 5 ] This morning,
Kevin Spacey,

491
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:50,370
-Undersire,
- [reporter 6] R. Kelly,
Bill Cosby.

492
00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:52,860
[reporter 7]
The MeToo movement
exploding overnight.

493
00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:54,930
[reporter 8]
And the accusations
just keep coming.

494
00:26:57,060 --> 00:27:00,130
[costumer] I decided
I'd had enough when
the MeToo movement

495
00:27:00,130 --> 00:27:05,750
made it okay to talk about
hostile work environments.

496
00:27:07,270 --> 00:27:11,060
I felt like I could
finally call up my union

497
00:27:11,060 --> 00:27:14,000
and let them know that
there had been some stuff

498
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,000
going on that
it was inappropriate that

499
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,960
he asked for massages
from females weekly

500
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,550
if not daily
and this is not right.

501
00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:25,130
Something has to be done.

502
00:27:26,130 --> 00:27:29,550
The union representative said
I wasn't the only one

503
00:27:29,550 --> 00:27:33,100
who had shown my shock
and displeasure that

504
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:34,440
this was allowed to go on.

505
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,750
And that they were looking
into it.

506
00:27:42,790 --> 00:27:44,750
A lot of rumors
were circulating around

507
00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:48,410
Dan Schneider,
and these really
exploded online.

508
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,440
In 2017,
Nickelodeon launches yet

509
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:56,440
another investigation
into Dan Schneider.

510
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,480
It's not because they have
a smoking gun,

511
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,650
it's because the Me Too
movement has helped us

512
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,000
sort of rethink and reevaluate
what we think is appropriate

513
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,720
and not appropriate
in the workplace.

514
00:28:07,030 --> 00:28:10,550
And then my supervisor
actually called me

515
00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:11,860
and told me that...

516
00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:16,030
yeah, Dan wouldn't be
coming back.

517
00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:36,790
[Kate] For Dan to be ousted
from Nickelodeon is
a huge shock.

518
00:28:36,790 --> 00:28:39,310
He did not see this coming.

519
00:28:40,890 --> 00:28:43,960
[Rick] He issues a couple
statements, basically,

520
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,240
"Oh, you know,
I need some time off.

521
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,440
I'm just, you know,
I'm working on my life."

522
00:28:57,030 --> 00:28:59,000
[Kate] But behind the scenes.

523
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,030
Nickelodeon literally changes
the locks of this place

524
00:29:03,030 --> 00:29:04,860
that he turned into an empire.

525
00:29:08,170 --> 00:29:11,000
[Rick] They gave him an amount
that was reported at the time

526
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,480
at about $7 million.

527
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,410
You know, it was just a really
quick, really sharp break.

528
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,340
[Kate] This investigation
did not find any evidence of

529
00:29:21,410 --> 00:29:25,030
inappropriate sexual behavior,
inappropriate relationships
with children.

530
00:29:25,030 --> 00:29:26,370
Jerry, I'm going to push--

531
00:29:26,370 --> 00:29:29,750
But it did find evidence of
being abusive to others

532
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:31,100
in the workplace.

533
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,930
So to hear that he was gone
was a good thing.

534
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,960
It was a very good thing.
It was a happy day.

535
00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:57,860
When everyone did come back,
it was a much happier
workplace.

536
00:29:59,170 --> 00:30:03,100
I remember reading
that Dan was no longer

537
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,340
going to be under contract at
Nickelodeon,

538
00:30:05,410 --> 00:30:08,960
and I can remember
exactly where I was.

539
00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:11,550
It didn't surprise me.

540
00:30:11,620 --> 00:30:15,750
They should have fired him
a long time ago.

541
00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:19,100
[Kate] Dan is no longer at
Nickelodeon,

542
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:23,240
and he hasn't made
a new TV show
in a number of years.

543
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,000
In 2021, he told
The New York Times, kind of,

544
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,270
I'm ready to reemerge
in children's television.

545
00:30:28,270 --> 00:30:30,750
I mean, I don't see how
he comes back from it.

546
00:30:30,750 --> 00:30:34,580
I'm sure he wants to,
but I don't see
how it happens.

547
00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:39,860
Let's please collectively
not let another Dan happen.

548
00:30:40,550 --> 00:30:43,030
Like, he cannot happen again.

549
00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:45,860
Like, this is not a joke.

550
00:30:45,930 --> 00:30:47,340
[clicks tongue]

551
00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:53,790
A lot of his shows
are still on the air,

552
00:30:53,790 --> 00:30:55,440
and they're still
really popular.

553
00:30:56,370 --> 00:30:58,960
But those kids who grew up
on Dan Schneider's sets

554
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,440
and in
the entertainment industry

555
00:31:00,510 --> 00:31:04,340
are adults now,
and they are reexamining

556
00:31:04,340 --> 00:31:06,240
the world that
they grew up in.

557
00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:12,440
[Alexa]
Towards the end of season two
of Zoey 101...

558
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,000
I wasn't happy.

559
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,000
I actually could not show up
to set anymore without crying.

560
00:31:25,890 --> 00:31:31,960
A lot of my self-worth
was deeply damaged

561
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,750
from that set experience.

562
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:38,240
Me as a person was, like,
altered for life.

563
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,240
Being let go from
The Amanda Show

564
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:46,820
really broke my confidence
big time.

565
00:31:47,790 --> 00:31:53,170
That was a very young lesson
to learn in my career,

566
00:31:53,170 --> 00:31:55,860
is that everyone
is replaceable.

567
00:31:55,930 --> 00:31:59,680
And it sent me down
a really dark path.

568
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,790
I had to really, like,
pick myself back up

569
00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:05,370
and keep it moving in
an industry

570
00:32:05,370 --> 00:32:10,860
that showed me very early on
that it has no love for me
at all.

571
00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:14,100
[Leon] Being a child star
hurt me mentally

572
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,000
and somewhat physically.

573
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,510
The alcoholism that
I've dealt with,

574
00:32:19,790 --> 00:32:23,580
I believe,
is a direct connection
to the feelings that

575
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:26,790
I have after leaving
the industry

576
00:32:26,790 --> 00:32:29,550
and not being able to maintain
the success that I had.

577
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,000
[Katrina] After All That,
I was burned out,

578
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,480
and I was excited for
the next chapter.

579
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,000
I was excited
to maybe try college,

580
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000
being normal a little bit.

581
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,750
But, you know,
not everybody gets
to be normal afterwards

582
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:51,000
because you don't know
what that looks like.

583
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,860
[Bryan]
When I was on All That,
it was a sweet experience,

584
00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:56,440
but the bittersweet,
the bitter side of the

585
00:32:56,510 --> 00:32:59,340
bitter sweet
was pretty bitter.

586
00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:01,860
There's a dark underbelly
to child stardom.

587
00:33:01,860 --> 00:33:05,270
Children are just
a dollar sign when
they show up on set.

588
00:33:05,270 --> 00:33:08,240
Nobody's taking anyone's
mental health serious,

589
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,240
and that's completely
unfortunate.

590
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:15,060
I struggled with
self-esteem issues.

591
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:18,240
I struggled with
beauty standards.

592
00:33:20,030 --> 00:33:22,370
'Cause I didn't feel accepted.

593
00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:23,550
There you go.

594
00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:29,750
It was a toxic environment
and seeing how the show

595
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:35,580
just kept on rolling and these
people who were criminals

596
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:37,550
were disappeared,

597
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:41,860
it made me quite cynical
about the reality of

598
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:45,930
power dynamics and it made me
trust people less.

599
00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:48,240
[all clamoring]

600
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:50,340
[photographer] Drake,
can you look right at
this way, please?

601
00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:53,000
[Drake] Right after
Drake and Josh,
I was signed,

602
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,440
and then I released
my second album.

603
00:33:57,270 --> 00:33:59,790
I made some really
cool movies,

604
00:33:59,790 --> 00:34:02,750
but I would have stints
of sobriety,

605
00:34:02,750 --> 00:34:04,440
and then I would...

606
00:34:06,580 --> 00:34:09,860
You know,
the pressure would be
too much,

607
00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:11,200
and...

608
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:16,340
all of these demons
that I had, um...

609
00:34:17,860 --> 00:34:20,440
were very difficult to...

610
00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:24,440
to work through.

611
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,240
And so I think a lot of
my self-destructive behavior

612
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:31,130
would always just be
a temporary fix,

613
00:34:31,130 --> 00:34:32,720
and it would always creep
back up.

614
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000
I went through this bankruptcy
and lost my house, and...

615
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,750
I mean,
it was absolutely devastating.

616
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:43,130
Hey, what's up, Glenn?

617
00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:45,550
-Cory, can we get
a picture, please?
-Glenn, can we get a sign?

618
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,860
[Raquel]
We can go on and on and on
of child actors

619
00:34:50,860 --> 00:34:54,000
or child entertainers
who had cameras

620
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,860
watching every single
downfall.

621
00:34:56,930 --> 00:34:59,340
-Brittany.
-Hello? Did you have fun
in there, Brittany?

622
00:35:00,580 --> 00:35:02,860
Lindsay, do you have anything
to say to Brittany?

623
00:35:02,930 --> 00:35:05,550
Look at what happens
to these kids when
they're spat out.

624
00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:08,170
-They end up quite sick.
-[indistinct conversation]

625
00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:10,750
They have issues
with addiction.

626
00:35:10,820 --> 00:35:12,060
[man] Eddie.

627
00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:13,000
How are you?

628
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Aaron Carter.

629
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,860
[man] One of those days,
Aaron, you know?

630
00:35:16,930 --> 00:35:18,340
[reporter] Amanda Bynes,
arrested, hauled out of

631
00:35:18,340 --> 00:35:20,680
her midtown
Manhattan apartment.

632
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,550
[reporter 2] Arrested,
allegedly smoking marijuana.

633
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:24,440
[reporter 3] You just wonder,
how low is the bottom?

634
00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:26,650
[Raquel]
When I think of Amanda,

635
00:35:27,550 --> 00:35:29,100
it's like so painful.

636
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:32,790
She was hospitalized for
a mental health evaluation.

637
00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:36,000
[Raquel]
Because we are talking about
a very talented young woman.

638
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,170
Someone who had the entire
world at her fingertips.

639
00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:46,860
Amanda Bynes is
a very prototypical
child star story.

640
00:35:46,930 --> 00:35:48,680
As she entered adulthood,
it seemed like

641
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,960
she was struggling with
the transition.

642
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,340
She had a lot
of public mental health issues

643
00:35:53,410 --> 00:35:55,100
that tabloids covered.

644
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:56,680
She ended up in
a conservatorship

645
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,820
with her parents,
and that was
very recently overturned.

646
00:36:01,890 --> 00:36:04,370
Child stars' relationships
with their families often

647
00:36:04,370 --> 00:36:07,580
are starting from a place of
discontent,

648
00:36:07,580 --> 00:36:10,030
and then they get worse.
They don't have childhoods

649
00:36:10,030 --> 00:36:12,100
like kids are supposed
to have.

650
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,100
-[photographer] And look up.
-Okay, ready.

651
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,270
[Drake] There was definitely
a slow decline

652
00:36:16,270 --> 00:36:19,650
in my mental health
and sobriety.

653
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:22,030
I mean, DUIs,

654
00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:27,130
um, behaviors that
were happening

655
00:36:27,130 --> 00:36:28,510
because I was...

656
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,960
I... I was lost.

657
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,550
[reporter] Nickelodeon's
Drake Bell is arrested
in California,

658
00:36:36,620 --> 00:36:38,750
accused of driving
under the influence.

659
00:36:38,750 --> 00:36:41,170
Former Nickelodeon star
Drake Bell was convicted

660
00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:43,240
and sentenced for
child endangerment.

661
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:47,000
[Scaachi] Drake Bell
pled guilty to charges related

662
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,750
to inappropriate text messages
he sent to a minor,

663
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:53,170
but he was not charged
for doing anything physical.

664
00:36:53,170 --> 00:36:55,440
He was sentenced to
two years of probation

665
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,650
and 200 hours of
community service.

666
00:36:59,170 --> 00:37:01,000
[Drake] I took responsibility
for that.

667
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440
You know,
I did what was asked of me.

668
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,440
But the media grabbed
ahold of so much
misinformation,

669
00:37:08,130 --> 00:37:12,100
and it absolutely
destroyed me.

670
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,960
And I started to spin out
of control.

671
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,340
[reporter] Actor Drake Bell
has been reported missing.

672
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:21,580
Police say they are
deeply concerned
for his well-being.

673
00:37:21,580 --> 00:37:24,550
If I had continued down
that path, that...

674
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:28,750
could very likely...

675
00:37:29,860 --> 00:37:33,200
be the end of my story.

676
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,960
[soft music playing]

677
00:37:48,340 --> 00:37:49,750
[Drake] I was at rock bottom.

678
00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:55,720
And so I checked
into treatment.

679
00:37:57,270 --> 00:38:00,340
And I got to go through
a lot of trauma therapy,

680
00:38:00,340 --> 00:38:02,310
a lot of grief therapy,

681
00:38:03,170 --> 00:38:05,860
and be surrounded by

682
00:38:05,860 --> 00:38:07,440
people who,

683
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,550
for the first time
in a long time...

684
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:27,200
[sighs] ...wanted to just
see me get better.

685
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,550
[Giovannie] For child actors,
if you're not protected,

686
00:38:40,170 --> 00:38:41,650
it'll turn into chaos.

687
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,440
There's gotta be more support
in terms of counseling,

688
00:38:48,510 --> 00:38:50,750
mental health,
wellness checks.

689
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,580
[Kyle] Kids are still at risk.

690
00:38:53,580 --> 00:38:59,000
The law does not cover
everyone operating on a set

691
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,890
because that's an environment
where either a studio teacher

692
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:07,340
or a parent is legally
required to be within

693
00:39:07,340 --> 00:39:10,000
sight or sound of the kid
at all times.

694
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,790
That's just not enough.

695
00:39:11,790 --> 00:39:17,480
Someone who has
a criminal record
as a child sex offender

696
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,240
can find their way into
this position,

697
00:39:21,310 --> 00:39:24,550
that loophole in the law
should be closed.

698
00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:33,240
Most people actually
financially reward

699
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:37,240
these industries
without knowing
what's actually happening,

700
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:38,960
you know, behind the scenes.

701
00:39:40,030 --> 00:39:42,370
It unfortunately takes
the people that witnessed it

702
00:39:42,370 --> 00:39:46,060
and experienced it to speak up
to really change it.

703
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,750
My hope is that with
every voice that comes out,

704
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:53,130
something changes.

705
00:39:55,370 --> 00:39:57,030
Maybe today's the day.

706
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:58,480
I don't know.

707
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,960
When people ask me,
am I going to put my kids
into acting,

708
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,960
I literally have zero,
zero thought

709
00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:11,410
before my no.

710
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,340
[Drake]
I'm often asked the question,
"You grew up in the business

711
00:40:19,340 --> 00:40:22,240
and is this a good place
for kids? And...

712
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:28,440
and, you know, it's such a,
a hard question to answer

713
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,270
because I wanted nothing more
in life,

714
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:34,750
but to get on stage.

715
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:39,650
There is so much
in this industry

716
00:40:39,650 --> 00:40:42,930
that you have
to be cautious of,

717
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,960
but...

718
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:52,440
would I want the experiences
that I've had,

719
00:40:52,510 --> 00:40:56,510
the good experiences that
I've had, ripped away from me?

720
00:41:00,890 --> 00:41:02,370
I don't know what
the answer is

721
00:41:02,370 --> 00:41:03,750
and I don't have the power
to do it,

722
00:41:03,820 --> 00:41:07,440
but I would love to be able
to create an environment where

723
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:10,200
we're not so vulnerable

724
00:41:11,650 --> 00:41:14,170
and susceptible to...

725
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,130
outside dangers.

726
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,000
[soft music playing]

727
00:41:24,580 --> 00:41:27,130
It's just,
it's really hard going back

728
00:41:27,130 --> 00:41:28,650
over these old memories.

729
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:41,650
[man] Oh, well, you know what?

730
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:44,860
There's better days
ahead of us.

731
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,030
[Drake] Yeah,
I keep hearing that.

732
00:41:48,030 --> 00:41:50,410
[man] Yeah, well,
keep listening to it.

733
00:41:59,550 --> 00:42:09,440
[soft music playing]

734
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:19,440
♪

735
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:29,650
♪