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[dramatic music]
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What's the name of this
group on this stage tonight?
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all:
Black Sheep!
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Say what?
all: Black Sheep!
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Hip-hop definitely gives us
the opportunity to blow up.
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Our special guest,
Black Sheep--
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Mista Lawnge and Dres.
- [rapping indistinctly]
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Like it or not,
rap is here to stay.
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It has become part
of mainstream commerce.
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And "The Choice Is Yours"--
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the one that knocked the whole
country on their hip.
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- That was a real record.
- You guys are so young.
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Teens making
these mega hits.
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It all stems down
to what you want
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to do with your life, what
you want to do with yourself.
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- Say hello.
- Hi.
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Hi.
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Hip-hop also gives us
the opportunity to implode.
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If you're doing it
for the money, stop.
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We had vision.
We had concept.
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They didn't try
to understand.
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People are people,
and people make mistakes.
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If you're doing
it for the love,
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then you're on the right path.
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When I make my music, I want
people to feel what I feel
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because I make
it straight from the heart.
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He's gone, but his
music is still here.
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We still talking about
him because his beats
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got us still talking.
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What J Dilla is
affording me is
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for the world to see exactly
what I have to say today.
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And that's all I need.
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You've been given an idea.
You've been given talent.
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People would be
very unkind to you
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if you take a Dilla track
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and you don't make
the most out of it.
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Just because you
have something,
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it might not just be yours.
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It's been 20-plus years.
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Dilla is somebody you
can't afford to mess up.
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Keep J Dilla's memory alive.
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Things become way more
complicated after you gone.
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[train horn blowing]
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[upbeat music plays]
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The Mario series is
going to turn 40 next year.
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Wow.
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Pac-Man turned 40 this
year, and Donkey Kong came
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out one year after Pac-Man.
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And that was Mario's
first game, right?
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[doorbell rings]
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Yeah, Donkey Kong
was Mario's first game.
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- Thank you.
- Have a good one.
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You too.
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So this is just a visual of
the guy completing the levels?
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Yeah, this is a world map.
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The more levels you complete,
the longer you can go on.
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Who knew that Mario would
have such an amazing life?
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Mario has been doing his thing
for a lot of years now.
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In life, if you're a chef
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for 25 years, you're a master.
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You're a master chef.
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Who invented Donkey Kong?
- Shigeru Miyamoto.
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If you played in a rock band
for 25 years,
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you're a Rolling Stone.
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Like, you're revered.
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But in hip-hop, if you rhyme
for 25 years, you're just old.
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[chuckles]
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He originally wanted to
use characters from Popeye,
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but that didn't work out.
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Oh, licensing, I'm sure.
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I feel literally like one
of the luckiest people
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in the world to be
an artist for 25 years.
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And after, you know,
being a dad,
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after taking care
of the household,
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after taking care of the wife,
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after everything I do to be
a person,
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you know, 9:00, 10:00
at night,
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I'm going to the Bronx
from Queens
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to start my workday.
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"You are blocking this driveway
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"and making
it incredibly difficult
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"to avoid hitting your rear
bumper on my way out.
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"Please be mindful
that I routinely
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"have to maneuver around your
vehicle to avoid impact.
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"You are well over the line.
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I would appreciate
your consideration."
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'Cause they don't have
enough fucking room
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to get out of their driveway.
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Oh, God, like, New York
is just New York.
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Over my career, I've
done a lot of evolving.
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I think music has done
a lot of evolving as well,
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for better and for worse.
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And I'm not a fan of
the ageism in hip-hop.
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Hip-hop is one of
the art forms where
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the young eats the elders.
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You know, you'll often hear,
you know, the younger cats--
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Yeah, I don't mess
with them older dudes
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and this, that, and the other.
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And, you know, it's kind of
hard to hear sometimes.
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And, you know, sometimes
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reality will break
my heart a little bit.
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But it's a good reason
to get up every day.
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I love making music.
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The hustle is definitely
a grind for me.
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You know, like
I'll have a session
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that starts at 9:00,
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and I might be in there till
2:00, 3:00 in the morning
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and be on my toes at 7:00,
7:15 to cook for my son
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and get him out the house--
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just spend as much time
as I can during the years
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that my son does need me.
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Life changes when you have
a quick rise and a quick fall
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in the music industry.
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[elevator bell dings]
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That I've had success early--
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I always feel like
I'm just a record away
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from breaking a ceiling.
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[cheering]
- "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing."
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Here's Dres and Lawnge--
Black Sheep.
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Ow. Take it away.
- Make some noise!
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Make some noise!
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My name is Dres.
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And I am Mista Lawnge,
the 9.5er.
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Together we make up
this group called what?
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Black Sheep.
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Real hip-hop--
it inspired us.
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- Talking about Black Sheep.
- Black sheep.
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- Black Sheep in the house.
- Black Sheep live.
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If you're tuned in
to hip-hop history,
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you have to know
who Black Sheep are.
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Did you just ask me
who was Black Sheep?
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♪ Who's the Black Sheep? ♪
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♪ What's the Black Sheep? ♪
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♪ Know not who I am or when
I'm coming so you sleep ♪
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Black Sheep was a duo that
came out in '91 comprised
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of Dres and Mista Lawnge.
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Me and Lawnge, we met
in '83 in North Carolina.
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We were both from New York,
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but our parents
relocated for various reasons.
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Black Sheep--it was new.
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It was fresh--definitely
the top of the hip-hop
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world for a period of time.
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They fit really well
within a dominant level
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of hip-hop sound.
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Black Sheep--
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I'd be sitting next
to the radio just like this.
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♪ Back, middle,
to the front, don't front ♪
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Damn, Mista Lawnge
getting it in--
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he was nasty with the beats.
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I'm like, ooh.
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And Dres--
it's like audible silk.
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♪ Styling is creative ♪
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♪ Black sheep of the Native ♪
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♪ You can't be violated
or even "decepticated" ♪
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♪ I got brothers
in the jungle ♪
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They were the
perfect continuation
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of what Native Tongues
had already been doing.
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♪ Native Tongue
got rhymes galore ♪
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The Native Tongues were,
like, a conscious hip-hop
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collective of various groups.
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The Native Tongues--
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that's a dope fucking
name for a crew.
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And their whole vibe
was very different,
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and their music was banging.
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The beats were banging.
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- What's your first question?
- My first question--
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Listen, I did an entire
documentary about it,
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so I don't want to
repeat, but game-changing
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production from all of them.
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- ♪ Break down ♪
- ♪ Round and round ♪
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Jungle Brothers, De La Soul,
Tribe Called Quest--
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Then you have Black Sheep,
Monie Love, Latifah, Chi Ali.
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It was very New York,
pushing positivity.
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Just peace,
Blackness, emceeing--
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just good-spirited music.
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It was considered
smart hip-hop.
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♪ Brothers in the jungle ♪
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Black Sheep came in
and lived up to the fact
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that they had something
dope and unique to say.
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♪ Mista Lawnge, Dres,
Black Sheep slam now ♪
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And presented it in
a really creative way.
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♪ Then, of course,
the choice is yours ♪
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"The Choice Is Yours"
absolutely
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was, like, a mainstream hit.
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"You can get with
this, or you can"--
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Yeah, that was awesome.
I was into that.
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"The Choice Is Yours"--
gonna knock the whole country
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on their hip.
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Like, use it
as a thing to say.
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Like, it just became
part of vernacular.
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"The Choice"--it's
lightning in a fucking bottle
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having such a
ridiculously popular song.
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♪ Where's the black sheep? ♪
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♪ Here's the black sheep ♪
- Forget it.
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I mean, if you want the
party to start jumping,
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you just throw that on.
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That's it.
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Especially in
the part where it's like,
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"Engine, engine"--
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"Number nine."
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♪ On the New York
transit line ♪
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Everybody crouching down.
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♪ If my train
goes off the track ♪
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♪ Pick it up, pick it up,
pick it up ♪
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Monster single--
all over the radio.
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And we saw them
as the first hip-hop duo
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to do late-night TV.
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It was larger than life,
and it lasted forever.
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♪ Open the door ♪
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♪ You best believe we're
sliding through it ♪
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He's still doing shows
because of that record.
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Like, I don't really
do shows like that.
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"The Choice Is Yours,"
"Similak Child,"
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"Flavor of the Month"--
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I mean, a lot of people
would describe
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"A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing"
as a classic album.
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♪ Do-da-dipity ♪
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Let me tell you, man.
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All you need is
one hit, and that
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was the one that guarantees
them income forever.
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"You can get with this,
or you can get with that,"
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which was, like, I think,
used in commercials.
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Better yummy this
and better tasting that.
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♪ You can get with this,
or you can get with that ♪
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Upside--using your
song in a commercial.
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Boom, chickity-check.
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Downside--oh, my God.
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Have you heard
the hamster song?
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♪ You can get with this,
or you can get with that ♪
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I remember being
on the radio
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and being like,
fuck that, no.
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You will not refer to
"The Choice Is Yours"
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as the goddamn hamster song.
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But it was a thing.
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What the hell is that?
[laughs]
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And then that song getting
placed in the Spidey-Verse.
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♪ ♪
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Got a seven-year-old
who know that record.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, that song is like the
gift that keeps on giving.
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Also have the youth,
the drill artists,
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Lola Brooke sampling
"The Choice is Yours."
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- ♪ Because you ain't getting ♪
- ♪ This or that ♪
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[chuckles]
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♪ Man, sis, just relax ♪
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Incredible track.
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You know, what would
hip-hop be without it?
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♪ The more things change,
the more they stay the same ♪
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All right, I'm going to
keep that one and double it.
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There's a lot of cats
that got a lot
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of things going on
in their career
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and legacy and whatnot.
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But not a lot of people
have a "Choice Is Yours."
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And, you know,
like, I don't really
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harp on
what me and Lawnge did...
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Okay, okay.
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As much as I harp
on what I still have to do.
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And that's why this Dilla
project is so important.
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So, for me, in my career,
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it's just been
about staying prepared.
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It's about doing the work.
It's about spreading love.
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It's about, you know, not
hoarding because we do shit
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despite what's against us.
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You know, like,
hip-hop exists despite.
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It's almost like you
were sliding through it.
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You know what I'm saying?
[hums] All right.
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It definitely
wasn't in the plans.
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Would you call your
music hard-core rap?
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I wouldn't call it hard-core.
273
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We painted a lot
of pictures.
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We didn't draw the
pictures ourselves.
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We just colored it in.
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Curse--
a lot of words
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that I don't think you're
going to ever get played
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on television or the radio.
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We don't really try to put it
all into distinct categories.
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It's all music, and what
you do with it is personal,
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and it's something that
you share with people.
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You know, people have told me,
I'm not really into rap,
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but your group is
all right with me.
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And that's cool, you know,
because that's broadening us.
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That's broadening them,
and that's helping rap.
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Beyond a beat,
a rhyme, a dance,
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hip-hop music has become
this life-altering,
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positive difference maker.
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Like, there's so many
different working pieces now,
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that a livelihood can
be found all around it.
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It's the result
of imagination,
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and so much rests
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on the shoulders
of our elders.
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WIHD, Washington.
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In Washington.
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I want to say sunny, but
you can see, there's--
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I'm here for this induction
into The Hip-Hop Museum.
298
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You know, like, this is not
a me and Mista Lawnge thing.
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This is--
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I didn't hit
him up or anything.
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I didn't--
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Yeah, like, I'm very
grateful to Lawnge.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, you know, without
Lawnge, we're not sitting here.
305
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I'm not sitting
here without Lawnge.
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You know what I'm saying?
So I'm always--
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I always keep that
in perspective.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And I think it took me
a while to get to the place
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where I felt like
I didn't owe that situation
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my loyalty anymore.
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We're going to
go walk around,
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check it out, take a
look around the curtain
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and see what it looked
like in there real quick.
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Come on, before
we go get a drink.
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Black Sheep.
[laughter, cheers]
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Word up.
Service is in the house.
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Word up.
Service in the house.
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[indistinct chatter]
320
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Making hit records
can definitely be
321
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a burden on that bad side of,
322
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yeah, this is what
you're known for.
323
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When people come up to
me, and they do the--
324
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"It's just me, myself, and I."
325
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♪ It's just me, myself, and I ♪
326
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And I just want to
smack them in the face.
327
00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:44,415
I mean, yeah, you
have to keep playing
328
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that song no matter what.
329
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I have a saying--
330
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You got to dance with
the ho that you brought.
331
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This is what got
you to the party.
332
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So when you're in the party
now, you're in a party now.
333
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You got to dance with her now.
334
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She brought you,
you have to dance with her.
335
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[rapping indistinctly]
336
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I don't think you're rubbing
someone the wrong way when you
337
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say that Black Sheep
was never able to get
338
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back to the heights of
"The Choice Is Yours."
339
00:13:09,223 --> 00:13:13,053
I mean, that was basically
an impossible task.
340
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When you are associated
with something
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that is so legendary
342
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and then you come out of that,
343
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you're like,
what am I supposed to do now?
344
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We're getting up pretty far
on the pop charts, you know,
345
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with that single.
346
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Now that we found
something that's
347
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working for us, like
"The Choice Is Yours,"
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it will be easy to say, damn,
let's go, you know, make
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"A Choice Is Ours,"
now or whatever, you know,
350
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and follow it up like
everybody else would do.
351
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But I think we'd rather
reach somewhere else.
352
00:13:42,865 --> 00:13:44,911
And even if, you know, we fall
flat on our face,
353
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at least we was trying
to be ourselves.
354
00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:50,177
[indistinct chatter]
355
00:13:50,264 --> 00:13:52,222
They really had, like,
a four-single run
356
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off their first album,
which is great,
357
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and then took a few years off.
358
00:14:00,927 --> 00:14:02,363
I don't know how
many people you're
359
00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:04,495
going to find besides
me that will be
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able to tell you the name
of their first single
361
00:14:06,584 --> 00:14:08,673
off the next album.
362
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You would think that an artist
363
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who had a song that big--
364
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people would at
least remember what
365
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they came with after that.
366
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I don't think anyone does.
367
00:14:22,035 --> 00:14:24,602
The next song--
it was "Without A Doubt."
368
00:14:24,689 --> 00:14:26,213
all:
♪ Yeah, without a doubt ♪
369
00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:29,956
It was a cool
song, but it just--
370
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the wind was out of the sail.
371
00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,352
You have one-hit wonders.
372
00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:39,052
You rarely have
one-album wonders.
373
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It's Black Sheep
with some new shit.
374
00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:42,969
You know what I'm saying?
We going to keep it moving.
375
00:14:43,056 --> 00:14:44,274
I know a lot of
people are saying,
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00:14:44,361 --> 00:14:46,189
yo, where's my man,
Mista Lawnge?
377
00:14:46,276 --> 00:14:48,583
I'm very sad to tell you
that Mista Lawnge
378
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has decided to leave
the group and do his own thing.
379
00:14:51,107 --> 00:14:53,196
But at the end of
the day, love is love,
380
00:14:53,283 --> 00:14:54,719
and I wish him the best.
381
00:14:54,806 --> 00:14:56,373
And we going to keep
it moving, right?
382
00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:59,246
That's right.
383
00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:02,989
At this point, it's
been over 30 years.
384
00:15:03,076 --> 00:15:07,471
I don't spend a lot
of time back there.
385
00:15:07,558 --> 00:15:10,344
I have those memories
of me and Lawnge,
386
00:15:10,431 --> 00:15:13,913
and we're very
congruent onstage.
387
00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,177
And we were both able to get
where we both were trying
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to go in that moment together.
389
00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:24,314
Once we decided to
go our own ways,
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00:15:24,401 --> 00:15:26,795
there was no
partner to push you.
391
00:15:26,882 --> 00:15:31,191
It became what
burned internally.
392
00:15:31,278 --> 00:15:35,891
Them two--whatever
kind of wedged them apart,
393
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I don't even know what it was.
394
00:15:37,588 --> 00:15:39,460
I mean, honestly, I don't.
395
00:15:39,547 --> 00:15:41,810
To this day,
I don't know why things
396
00:15:41,897 --> 00:15:43,812
fell off the way they did.
397
00:15:43,899 --> 00:15:45,814
Who knows, man?
398
00:15:45,901 --> 00:15:47,903
You know, I don't know.
399
00:15:54,257 --> 00:15:55,693
To me, getting
your flowers means,
400
00:15:55,780 --> 00:15:57,695
like, you're close to dying.
401
00:15:57,782 --> 00:15:59,175
[laughs]
You know what I'm saying?
402
00:15:59,262 --> 00:16:00,307
Like, all right.
403
00:16:00,394 --> 00:16:02,657
[phone rings]
Hey, Ma.
404
00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:04,006
Hey, baby.
How are you?
405
00:16:04,093 --> 00:16:05,790
I'm good.
How are you?
406
00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:07,140
I'm good.
407
00:16:07,227 --> 00:16:08,837
- You in your room?
- Yes.
408
00:16:08,924 --> 00:16:11,405
Okay.
All right, in a minute.
409
00:16:11,492 --> 00:16:13,102
[chuckles]
410
00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:17,715
- Hey, baby.
- Hey, Mama.
411
00:16:17,802 --> 00:16:19,456
How are you?
- Oh, my baby.
412
00:16:19,543 --> 00:16:20,980
How you doing?
- I'm good.
413
00:16:21,067 --> 00:16:22,677
How you doing?
- I'm good.
414
00:16:22,764 --> 00:16:24,679
Mmm.
I love you.
415
00:16:24,766 --> 00:16:26,028
I love you, too.
416
00:16:26,115 --> 00:16:27,377
Wait a minute.
We're on camera now?
417
00:16:27,464 --> 00:16:29,162
We are.
418
00:16:29,249 --> 00:16:31,251
[laughs] That's okay.
We built for this.
419
00:16:31,338 --> 00:16:32,817
Come on in, now.
420
00:16:32,904 --> 00:16:34,428
You look good, man.
421
00:16:34,515 --> 00:16:35,690
I wouldn't believe
you were in your 70s.
422
00:16:35,777 --> 00:16:36,778
Oh, honey, 70--
423
00:16:36,865 --> 00:16:38,780
Oh, let me tell you.
424
00:16:38,867 --> 00:16:40,738
At the airport,
they said, 75, you don't
425
00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:41,870
have to take your shoes off.
426
00:16:41,957 --> 00:16:43,219
I said, I'll be here next year.
427
00:16:43,306 --> 00:16:44,438
[laughter]
428
00:16:44,525 --> 00:16:46,788
I'll be here.
And I had on boots, too.
429
00:16:46,875 --> 00:16:48,833
I had on my Timbs
because the shoes
430
00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,184
I was going to wear tonight--
they come, like, up to here.
431
00:16:51,271 --> 00:16:53,229
I wasn't wearing
them in no airport.
432
00:16:53,316 --> 00:16:54,839
Oh, yeah.
You're not supposed to, Ma.
433
00:16:54,926 --> 00:16:56,624
Mm, I know.
I know.
434
00:16:56,711 --> 00:16:59,279
- They come up to there?
- Yeah, but I got a long skirt.
435
00:16:59,366 --> 00:17:02,108
- You are doing a lot, okay?
- Yeah, because it's you.
436
00:17:02,195 --> 00:17:03,718
You worthy of it.
- I feel that.
437
00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:04,849
That's love.
- Yeah.
438
00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:07,504
[electronic music]
439
00:17:07,591 --> 00:17:08,723
♪ ♪
440
00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:10,290
What's going on, man?
441
00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:12,292
Okay.
All right.
442
00:17:12,379 --> 00:17:14,207
All right, here we go.
443
00:17:14,294 --> 00:17:16,470
All right, right now
I'm here talking
444
00:17:16,557 --> 00:17:18,341
to one of the legends that's
getting inducted tonight.
445
00:17:18,428 --> 00:17:20,474
It's quite the honor.
You know what I'm saying?
446
00:17:20,561 --> 00:17:22,345
I'm very grateful
to come down to DC,
447
00:17:22,432 --> 00:17:24,086
especially to hang out
with some heads that
448
00:17:24,173 --> 00:17:25,827
know what hip-hop is
all about, represent
449
00:17:25,914 --> 00:17:27,655
the culture to the fullest.
450
00:17:27,742 --> 00:17:29,744
The reason why
The National Hip-Hop Museum
451
00:17:29,831 --> 00:17:32,094
exists is because,
after holding the torch
452
00:17:32,181 --> 00:17:34,749
for so many years and
accomplishing so much, it is
453
00:17:34,836 --> 00:17:38,753
our obligation as Americans
to give you guys your flowers.
454
00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,581
So right now can we get
a big round of applause
455
00:17:40,668 --> 00:17:41,886
for all of our inductees--
456
00:17:41,973 --> 00:17:44,193
[cheers and applause]
457
00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,021
Special Ed...
458
00:17:46,108 --> 00:17:47,370
♪ My name is Special Ed,
and I'm a super-duper star ♪
459
00:17:47,457 --> 00:17:48,893
CL Smooth...
460
00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:50,678
What's up, y'all? This is
the Mecca Don CL Smooth.
461
00:17:50,765 --> 00:17:52,332
Dres.
462
00:17:52,419 --> 00:17:53,811
Oh, look, y'all, it's
Dres from Black Sheep.
463
00:17:53,898 --> 00:17:56,031
[applause]
464
00:17:56,118 --> 00:17:58,294
So in the year of
hip-hop's birthday,
465
00:17:58,381 --> 00:18:00,122
what do you feel is
the most important thing
466
00:18:00,209 --> 00:18:02,081
that hip-hop has
contributed to the world
467
00:18:02,168 --> 00:18:04,561
over the last five decades?
468
00:18:04,648 --> 00:18:08,652
Hip-hop is the top-generating
music genre
469
00:18:08,739 --> 00:18:10,611
for how long now?
- A lot of years.
470
00:18:10,698 --> 00:18:14,223
Every corporate entity,
everything, every media,
471
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:17,139
every medium is all hip-hop.
472
00:18:17,226 --> 00:18:19,794
So why the fuck they don't
respect us in the way
473
00:18:19,881 --> 00:18:21,448
that they should?
474
00:18:21,535 --> 00:18:23,189
They don't uphold
us like they do
475
00:18:23,276 --> 00:18:25,843
these "rock and roll" legends
476
00:18:25,930 --> 00:18:27,802
and soul and whatever, whatever.
477
00:18:27,889 --> 00:18:29,673
We are them right now.
478
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,719
We are the ones selling
millions of records,
479
00:18:31,806 --> 00:18:33,547
streaming millions of records.
480
00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:36,115
We deserve the respect.
[applause]
481
00:18:36,202 --> 00:18:38,378
Like it or not,
rap is here to stay.
482
00:18:38,465 --> 00:18:40,467
It has become part
of mainstream commerce.
483
00:18:40,554 --> 00:18:42,208
Rap in the '90s--
it's creative.
484
00:18:42,295 --> 00:18:44,471
It's candid.
It's controversial.
485
00:18:44,558 --> 00:18:46,212
Today on the show,
we have rappers
486
00:18:46,299 --> 00:18:49,345
De La Soul to discuss the
many ways to keep it real.
487
00:18:49,432 --> 00:18:51,739
With hip-hop, there's
always been big business.
488
00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:55,264
But mid '90s, us, Dres, Tribe,
489
00:18:55,351 --> 00:18:56,961
we could see it taking over.
490
00:18:57,048 --> 00:18:58,485
Being in this
business, there's
491
00:18:58,572 --> 00:18:59,790
a lot of things
you're going to learn,
492
00:18:59,877 --> 00:19:02,445
and they are screwing our love,
and our love is hip-hop.
493
00:19:02,532 --> 00:19:05,144
You know, our love is rap.
So it's a learning process.
494
00:19:05,231 --> 00:19:07,363
We could see what our
label wanted us to do--
495
00:19:07,450 --> 00:19:10,323
that formula
and how that single,
496
00:19:10,410 --> 00:19:12,934
that one record
needed to be given.
497
00:19:13,021 --> 00:19:16,720
Hip-hop definitely gives us
the opportunity to blow up.
498
00:19:19,027 --> 00:19:22,509
Hip-hop also gives us
the opportunity to implode.
499
00:19:22,596 --> 00:19:24,337
"The Choice Is Yours"--
you were young,
500
00:19:24,424 --> 00:19:26,556
and did you guys do everything
right so that record that
501
00:19:26,643 --> 00:19:29,516
lives today and will
live on forever does
502
00:19:29,603 --> 00:19:31,387
benefit your children and
your children's children?
503
00:19:31,474 --> 00:19:33,563
Like, the deal
wasn't a fair deal...
504
00:19:33,650 --> 00:19:35,739
both: Right.
- Whereas monetarily.
505
00:19:35,826 --> 00:19:37,176
We didn't take a number--
506
00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:38,655
Who would know
those terms, though?
507
00:19:38,742 --> 00:19:40,396
That's the crazy shit.
508
00:19:40,483 --> 00:19:41,876
These are the things that
are kind of common knowledge
509
00:19:41,963 --> 00:19:43,704
that they just don't
share with you.
510
00:19:43,791 --> 00:19:45,575
Well, it's not common because
it's not being shared at all.
511
00:19:45,662 --> 00:19:46,968
Yeah, yeah.
512
00:19:47,055 --> 00:19:48,535
You know, a lot of these
guys got famous--
513
00:19:48,622 --> 00:19:50,798
They're like teen stars.
514
00:19:50,885 --> 00:19:52,974
As a young kid growing up
in New York City,
515
00:19:53,061 --> 00:19:54,323
I loved the music.
516
00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:56,151
I was a fan.
I would go to the clubs.
517
00:19:56,238 --> 00:19:57,979
And you had access
to these people.
518
00:19:58,066 --> 00:20:00,764
And you could see how they
got fucked over business-wise.
519
00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,766
Of course, if you're
16, and they're like,
520
00:20:02,853 --> 00:20:04,333
we're going to
give you whatever
521
00:20:04,420 --> 00:20:05,987
to sign this contract,
you're like, fuck it.
522
00:20:06,074 --> 00:20:09,164
You're not thinking Jay-Z,
ownership,
523
00:20:09,251 --> 00:20:10,600
you know, publishing.
524
00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:12,646
This isn't even a formed
genre of music.
525
00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:14,778
And you're like, fuck.
I'm going to make $15,000?
526
00:20:14,865 --> 00:20:16,040
Fuck, yeah.
527
00:20:16,127 --> 00:20:17,390
For as long as
I can remember,
528
00:20:17,477 --> 00:20:19,043
I've been around hip-hop,
529
00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:21,350
as the former editor in chief
at "The Source" magazine.
530
00:20:21,437 --> 00:20:23,526
The business does
get complicated.
531
00:20:23,613 --> 00:20:25,789
You have to understand
the industry
532
00:20:25,876 --> 00:20:27,487
that you're making music in.
533
00:20:27,574 --> 00:20:30,316
It's the key to
survival as you continue
534
00:20:30,403 --> 00:20:32,013
to grow old in the industry
535
00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,971
because you're
going to need it.
536
00:20:34,058 --> 00:20:36,887
Dres told me he's
seen old-school rapper
537
00:20:36,974 --> 00:20:38,454
hopping a train, actually.
538
00:20:38,541 --> 00:20:40,195
We was like, yo,
that shit is crazy.
539
00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:42,371
And Dres was like, yo,
I wanted to help him,
540
00:20:42,458 --> 00:20:44,199
but, like, I wasn't really
in the situation--
541
00:20:44,286 --> 00:20:45,679
Like, I ain't with him.
542
00:20:45,766 --> 00:20:47,768
Fuck, I don't want to give
him no fucking $40.
543
00:20:47,855 --> 00:20:49,204
You know what I mean?
544
00:20:49,291 --> 00:20:50,640
I think it's a
concerted effort to try
545
00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:52,338
to take advantage of people.
546
00:20:52,425 --> 00:20:54,165
I'm gonna keep it funky.
You know what I'm saying?
547
00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:55,906
Yeah.
- You got 8, 9 points.
548
00:20:55,993 --> 00:20:57,908
They don't tell you
that that's percentage.
549
00:20:57,995 --> 00:21:01,216
That means there's 90%
that exists
550
00:21:01,303 --> 00:21:03,218
that's not yours
off of what you did.
551
00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:05,220
- What you made.
- Right.
552
00:21:05,307 --> 00:21:07,657
And God forbid
you splitting it.
553
00:21:07,744 --> 00:21:11,922
I should be a multimillionaire
if they just gave me half.
554
00:21:12,009 --> 00:21:14,011
Black Sheep were
an integral part
555
00:21:14,098 --> 00:21:16,492
of early 1990s
renaissance hip-hop
556
00:21:16,579 --> 00:21:18,407
coming out
of the Five Boroughs.
557
00:21:18,494 --> 00:21:20,322
As part of The Native Tongue collective,
558
00:21:20,409 --> 00:21:23,194
Dres and his DJ, Mista Lawnge,
embody the spirit
559
00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:25,196
of that group of musicians.
560
00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:28,983
But they maintained their own
style and approach to music.
561
00:21:29,070 --> 00:21:32,508
And in 1997, Dres dropped
his first solo project.
562
00:21:32,595 --> 00:21:35,946
As well, he has released
independent music and material
563
00:21:36,033 --> 00:21:38,079
as recently as last year.
564
00:21:38,166 --> 00:21:39,820
Give it up for Dres.
565
00:21:39,907 --> 00:21:42,344
[cheers and applause]
566
00:21:42,431 --> 00:21:43,693
♪ Yes, it's me ♪
567
00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:45,434
♪ D-R-E-S ♪
568
00:21:45,521 --> 00:21:48,219
- All right.
- Yeah, yeah.
569
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,918
For me, music is
all-encompassing.
570
00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:53,921
It's a beautiful reason
to wake up every day.
571
00:21:54,008 --> 00:21:55,923
It's a strong reason
572
00:21:56,010 --> 00:21:59,579
to learn to correct yourself
573
00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:01,276
because we're all going
to make the mistakes
574
00:22:01,363 --> 00:22:02,582
that we're going to make.
575
00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:04,453
That's what life is.
576
00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:07,674
But be defined by
what you correct.
577
00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:09,763
[applause]
578
00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:14,507
I'm working on some really,
really, really new dope shit.
579
00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:17,858
This particular project
is a DnD project--
580
00:22:17,945 --> 00:22:20,295
Dilla and Dres.
[cheers and applause]
581
00:22:20,382 --> 00:22:21,514
All right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
582
00:22:21,601 --> 00:22:24,081
It's happening.
It's going down.
583
00:22:24,168 --> 00:22:27,563
Like, I've been allowed
to visit
584
00:22:27,650 --> 00:22:29,565
a sacred land
585
00:22:29,652 --> 00:22:33,047
and pull a project
586
00:22:33,134 --> 00:22:35,441
produced entirely by J Dilla.
587
00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:39,488
And I'm asking all of y'all
588
00:22:39,575 --> 00:22:41,316
to see that star
when it shines,
589
00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:43,710
'cause it's going to shine.
590
00:22:43,797 --> 00:22:45,625
You know what I'm saying?
That's my word.
591
00:22:45,712 --> 00:22:47,496
I'm just asking you to pay
attention a little bit.
592
00:22:47,583 --> 00:22:49,759
You know what I'm saying?
Word up.
593
00:22:49,846 --> 00:22:54,634
[cheers and applause]
594
00:22:54,721 --> 00:22:57,637
How y'all feeling?
[cheering]
595
00:22:57,724 --> 00:22:59,116
I can't hear y'all.
596
00:22:59,203 --> 00:23:03,120
How y'all feeling, man?
[cheering]
597
00:23:03,207 --> 00:23:06,297
Want to take it back?
- Way back, back into time.
598
00:23:06,385 --> 00:23:07,951
["The Choice Is Your" playing]
599
00:23:08,038 --> 00:23:10,476
Okay.
600
00:23:10,563 --> 00:23:12,913
Real quick.
[cheering]
601
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,568
Yes, we--
Yo!
602
00:23:19,876 --> 00:23:23,097
I only recall meeting Dilla
one time
603
00:23:23,184 --> 00:23:26,100
in passing in life,
604
00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:30,365
though he worked with everyone
of the Natives--
605
00:23:30,452 --> 00:23:32,585
very close with Tribe.
606
00:23:32,672 --> 00:23:35,152
You know, he did a lot
of work with De La.
607
00:23:35,239 --> 00:23:37,198
When I make my music--
you know what I'm saying?--
608
00:23:37,285 --> 00:23:39,069
I want people to
feel what I feel.
609
00:23:39,156 --> 00:23:42,290
I want them to feel that energy
that I--whatever it was.
610
00:23:42,377 --> 00:23:43,683
Yeah, that's all it is,
611
00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:45,467
because I make
it straight from the heart.
612
00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:46,816
♪ Stakes is high ♪
613
00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:48,644
♪ You know them
stakes is high ♪
614
00:23:48,731 --> 00:23:51,430
JD from Detroit
was definitely one
615
00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:54,781
of the illest producers ever.
616
00:23:54,868 --> 00:23:57,827
J Dilla was truly one
of the purest musicians
617
00:23:57,914 --> 00:23:59,394
I've ever met.
618
00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:01,135
Dilla came with
his own sound,
619
00:24:01,222 --> 00:24:03,964
his own beat, his own pace,
his own scratches,
620
00:24:04,051 --> 00:24:05,400
his own melodies.
621
00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:07,837
And then he started
working with everybody.
622
00:24:07,924 --> 00:24:09,578
He worked
with so many people,
623
00:24:09,665 --> 00:24:12,015
from The Pharcyde, to Tribe...
624
00:24:12,102 --> 00:24:13,147
De La Soul.
625
00:24:13,234 --> 00:24:14,714
The Roots, Erykah Badu.
626
00:24:14,801 --> 00:24:17,325
Busta Rhymes,
Janet Jackson.
627
00:24:17,412 --> 00:24:18,500
And he from Detroit.
628
00:24:18,587 --> 00:24:21,851
So we like,
that's our guy.
629
00:24:21,938 --> 00:24:24,593
A significant role in
hip-hop is the sampling.
630
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,943
And one of the best to
ever do it is J Dilla.
631
00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:28,858
All I know how to
do is work the MPC
632
00:24:28,945 --> 00:24:30,904
and listen to these
breakbeats and chop shit.
633
00:24:30,991 --> 00:24:32,819
You know what I'm saying?
I come from that hip-hop shit.
634
00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:35,822
What he was doing was
merging jazz...
635
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:39,303
funk, soul.
636
00:24:39,390 --> 00:24:43,220
He was flipping any
record, anything.
637
00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:46,093
The pieces of the record
that he would sample--
638
00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:47,921
it would be the same
record you sampled,
639
00:24:48,008 --> 00:24:50,140
but he would find a
piece in that shit
640
00:24:50,227 --> 00:24:51,707
that you would never
even think to use
641
00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:54,101
or couldn't even
use it that way.
642
00:24:54,188 --> 00:24:56,843
He could make a Soca record,
a reggae record,
643
00:24:56,930 --> 00:24:58,584
an R&B record.
644
00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:00,499
It was just in a way that
no one else would do.
645
00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:02,501
And I mean, effortlessly.
646
00:25:02,588 --> 00:25:05,286
Like, yeah, he did hip-hop,
but he's way bigger than that.
647
00:25:05,373 --> 00:25:07,418
He's a jazz musician.
648
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:08,942
He knew his time signature.
649
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:10,857
He was programming it,
650
00:25:10,944 --> 00:25:12,946
but it just felt live,
the swing of it.
651
00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:15,252
He had an understanding of
it that he could manipulate it
652
00:25:15,339 --> 00:25:16,863
any way that he wanted to.
653
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:18,908
He was like, truly,
a scientist at it.
654
00:25:18,995 --> 00:25:21,432
Artists like Dilla
gave us a new voice,
655
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,305
currency, a relevancy.
656
00:25:24,392 --> 00:25:27,351
And that's real raw
talent right there.
657
00:25:27,438 --> 00:25:29,397
And that's why we still talking
about him--because his beats
658
00:25:29,484 --> 00:25:31,225
got us still talking.
659
00:25:31,312 --> 00:25:34,184
[calm music]
660
00:25:34,271 --> 00:25:38,667
♪ ♪
661
00:25:38,754 --> 00:25:41,888
Went out to Puerto Rico
to do a charity event,
662
00:25:41,975 --> 00:25:45,805
and I was blessed
to meet Ma Dukes.
663
00:25:45,892 --> 00:25:48,938
Can't never get enough
bell pepper and onion.
664
00:25:49,025 --> 00:25:51,637
Let's see, finish cooking
this sauce.
665
00:25:51,724 --> 00:25:53,682
And I was offered
an opportunity
666
00:25:53,769 --> 00:25:55,292
to come back to their house...
667
00:25:55,379 --> 00:25:57,468
Keep my pasta loose.
668
00:25:57,556 --> 00:25:59,558
For a meal and, you know,
just sit up and listen
669
00:25:59,645 --> 00:26:01,255
to music, this, that,
and the other.
670
00:26:01,342 --> 00:26:04,171
Welcome to the hot kitchen.
[laughs]
671
00:26:04,258 --> 00:26:06,782
Dilla--he didn't have
a lot of freedom as a kid.
672
00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:08,610
And, you know, at that time,
you could go to a record shop,
673
00:26:08,697 --> 00:26:10,656
you hear
something playing new.
674
00:26:10,743 --> 00:26:12,048
Because he was such
a great kid during the week,
675
00:26:12,135 --> 00:26:14,790
when his dad worked, he
got to get record or two.
676
00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:17,706
You know, he'd do that--
build his record collection.
677
00:26:17,793 --> 00:26:20,622
He was exceptionally gifted.
678
00:26:20,709 --> 00:26:23,930
He could take anything apart.
He was mechanically inclined.
679
00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:25,279
Everybody liked him.
680
00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:26,933
But he wasn't outgoing.
681
00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:29,413
And if he didn't say
anything or didn't speak,
682
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,328
it was just because his
mind was, like--
683
00:26:31,415 --> 00:26:33,156
his head was
in a different space.
684
00:26:33,243 --> 00:26:35,506
Everything is like done
through math and science,
685
00:26:35,594 --> 00:26:37,465
even with the music, you know.
686
00:26:37,552 --> 00:26:40,816
Was used to hearing
music of all genres--
687
00:26:40,903 --> 00:26:44,733
Mr. Yancey, who had been a
musician for over 25 years
688
00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:47,127
professionally,
as well as his job
689
00:26:47,214 --> 00:26:50,130
at Ford Motor Company
for 40 years
690
00:26:50,217 --> 00:26:52,828
before he passed away.
691
00:26:52,915 --> 00:26:57,224
We entertained
a lot of musicians.
692
00:26:57,311 --> 00:27:01,315
When Dilla was a baby,
at 11 months old,
693
00:27:01,402 --> 00:27:04,013
he would hear James Brown
record come on.
694
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:07,626
And within the third beat,
he'd be up dancing.
695
00:27:07,713 --> 00:27:09,758
But he had not
learned to walk yet,
696
00:27:09,845 --> 00:27:12,587
and he's in a whole
different world.
697
00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:16,417
So music had him early on.
698
00:27:18,114 --> 00:27:20,334
- If I can get my folder.
- All right.
699
00:27:20,421 --> 00:27:22,597
A lot of stuff was floating
around on the Internet
700
00:27:22,684 --> 00:27:24,468
because it wasn't
released properly.
701
00:27:24,555 --> 00:27:27,080
And so I had to
encrypt a lot of stuff.
702
00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:28,690
Why?
703
00:27:28,777 --> 00:27:31,258
'Cause folks are always
wanting to do music projects
704
00:27:31,345 --> 00:27:33,739
with us, yet they're
using songs that they
705
00:27:33,826 --> 00:27:35,131
don't have permission to use.
706
00:27:35,218 --> 00:27:37,568
It's the legal stuff that
I got to take care of.
707
00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:40,223
But the music--being
back home with the family
708
00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:42,573
makes all of that
so much easier.
709
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,446
The guy basically
chopped my record.
710
00:27:45,533 --> 00:27:47,056
It got around--
bootleg versions.
711
00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:48,275
And that was a big hit.
712
00:27:48,362 --> 00:27:49,624
It was my fucking beats.
713
00:27:49,711 --> 00:27:51,365
- Your tune?
- Yeah.
714
00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:53,236
And it's like--that was
kind of in the beginning--
715
00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:55,021
you know what I'm saying--
when I learned about that shit.
716
00:27:55,108 --> 00:27:56,196
And people can
just take your shit
717
00:27:56,283 --> 00:27:58,198
and sample it and rap over it.
718
00:27:58,285 --> 00:27:59,155
And you know what I'm saying?
719
00:27:59,242 --> 00:28:00,504
Ah.
720
00:28:00,591 --> 00:28:01,941
I can't stand that shit.
721
00:28:02,028 --> 00:28:04,813
[rhythmic music playing]
722
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:05,858
Oh, that was it?
723
00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:07,163
10:72.
724
00:28:07,250 --> 00:28:08,817
Yo, play it again.
725
00:28:08,904 --> 00:28:10,210
♪ ♪
726
00:28:10,297 --> 00:28:11,733
Yo.
727
00:28:11,820 --> 00:28:13,604
[laughter]
728
00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,041
And catch you off guard.
729
00:28:15,128 --> 00:28:16,129
Yo.
730
00:28:16,216 --> 00:28:18,522
♪ ♪
731
00:28:18,609 --> 00:28:20,916
♪ I was killing the
heart, killing in the spot ♪
732
00:28:21,003 --> 00:28:23,136
♪ Chilling the squad,
I seen it before ♪
733
00:28:23,223 --> 00:28:25,312
♪ Tonight she ain't
feeling the dark ♪
734
00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:28,184
Listening to Dilla's tracks
no one had ever heard before,
735
00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:30,491
I became excited.
736
00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:34,843
End of the night, I wound
up leaving Puerto Rico
737
00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:38,934
with the opportunity to make
an album from Dilla's catalog
738
00:28:39,021 --> 00:28:42,198
and a hard drive
of Dilla's beats,
739
00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:45,898
music that was produced,
you know, 15 years ago.
740
00:28:48,248 --> 00:28:50,990
Ma Dukes could
have had any artist
741
00:28:51,077 --> 00:28:53,601
in the world do this project.
742
00:28:53,688 --> 00:28:57,344
But I'm really grateful
because it's me.
743
00:28:57,431 --> 00:29:01,304
When I met you and the vibe
I got and the love I felt,
744
00:29:01,391 --> 00:29:03,089
that was genuine.
745
00:29:03,176 --> 00:29:06,527
And I just felt like I had
been around you always.
746
00:29:06,614 --> 00:29:09,312
And that means a lot to me.
747
00:29:09,399 --> 00:29:13,055
Dilla always told me, it's
a time for everything.
748
00:29:13,142 --> 00:29:14,927
All right.
749
00:29:15,014 --> 00:29:17,712
Let me know to calm down
and to wait for that moment.
750
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:20,062
And this is the time.
- All right.
751
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:21,890
Let's make it happen.
752
00:29:21,977 --> 00:29:23,239
No doubt.
753
00:29:23,326 --> 00:29:26,721
- And, Dres, you got it.
- Ah, thank you, Ma.
754
00:29:26,808 --> 00:29:28,375
You got the golden
Willy Wonka gold ticket.
755
00:29:28,462 --> 00:29:29,898
[laughter]
756
00:29:29,985 --> 00:29:31,639
- Thank you, Ma.
- Make it happen.
757
00:29:31,726 --> 00:29:32,640
Make it happen.
758
00:29:32,727 --> 00:29:34,424
I was humbled.
759
00:29:34,511 --> 00:29:37,210
I was honored, and I felt
a sense of accountability
760
00:29:37,297 --> 00:29:39,125
to what I was about to do.
761
00:29:39,212 --> 00:29:44,826
♪ ♪
762
00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:48,787
I'm excited about it.
763
00:29:48,874 --> 00:29:52,268
Dres, you know, over Dilla
beats would be dope.
764
00:29:52,355 --> 00:29:54,618
That's dope.
765
00:29:54,705 --> 00:29:56,664
- Oh, really?
- [chuckles]
766
00:29:56,751 --> 00:29:59,014
Wow.
[chuckles]
767
00:29:59,101 --> 00:30:01,495
Lucky him.
768
00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:04,367
Doing this has been
very therapeutic for me.
769
00:30:04,454 --> 00:30:06,761
I've also been able
to kind of just look
770
00:30:06,848 --> 00:30:08,807
at myself and the
artist that I am
771
00:30:08,894 --> 00:30:12,680
and how important
it is for me to push
772
00:30:12,767 --> 00:30:15,639
forward to do the work.
773
00:30:15,726 --> 00:30:19,556
♪ ♪
774
00:30:19,643 --> 00:30:22,646
But I just picked, like,
40 tracks to start working.
775
00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:25,388
The links are--you know,
like, this is 23 seconds.
776
00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:28,174
This is a minute and 24.
This is 20 seconds right here.
777
00:30:28,261 --> 00:30:32,004
Creating an entire
song from a snippet
778
00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:35,311
has really been
a cool experience.
779
00:30:35,398 --> 00:30:37,792
It's not about just
writing a rhyme
780
00:30:37,879 --> 00:30:41,230
and force-feeding
it to a track.
781
00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:45,974
You know, this project has
been very much me
782
00:30:46,061 --> 00:30:48,455
falling in love
with what I'm hearing...
783
00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:52,589
♪ I see the stars in your eyes,
laying on Drew Hill ♪
784
00:30:52,676 --> 00:30:56,071
And letting that pull
out what should go on it.
785
00:30:56,158 --> 00:30:58,247
♪ Baby, loving you a virtue ♪
786
00:30:58,334 --> 00:30:59,858
♪ If I had you,
wouldn't hurt you ♪
787
00:30:59,945 --> 00:31:01,729
♪ Couldn't do nothing but nurse
your beauty, easy to see ♪
788
00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:02,991
♪ Said I'll show
you what it mean ♪
789
00:31:03,078 --> 00:31:04,384
♪ You were born my queen ♪
790
00:31:04,471 --> 00:31:06,212
Here we go.
791
00:31:06,299 --> 00:31:09,171
[playing saxophone]
792
00:31:09,258 --> 00:31:13,828
♪ ♪
793
00:31:13,915 --> 00:31:15,786
You're so amazing.
794
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:17,223
Yo, that was crazy.
795
00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:18,572
Dilla is tricky, man.
796
00:31:18,659 --> 00:31:20,313
Now that I'm
listening to this...
797
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,488
- Yo, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- And playing...
798
00:31:21,575 --> 00:31:23,098
Yo, yeah.
That's my word.
799
00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:24,883
I'm like, the harmony that
this cat is using--
800
00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:27,146
It ends differently
than just a 16-bar rhyme.
801
00:31:27,233 --> 00:31:28,321
Right, right, right.
802
00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:35,023
♪ ♪
803
00:31:39,332 --> 00:31:41,508
You got some joints
I ain't even heard before.
804
00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:43,379
I ain't heard
a third of them.
805
00:31:43,466 --> 00:31:45,120
Right.
806
00:31:45,207 --> 00:31:47,122
It's so much more
for me to listen to.
807
00:31:47,209 --> 00:31:49,081
- Word.
- He's a genius, man.
808
00:31:49,168 --> 00:31:50,952
♪ I need it because
they hoping for my nap ♪
809
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:52,780
♪ And they know that
New York is on our back ♪
810
00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:54,521
♪ You broke in on... ♪
811
00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:58,046
Dilla is somebody you
can't afford to mess up.
812
00:31:58,133 --> 00:32:00,179
♪ She won't know
where I'm at ♪
813
00:32:00,266 --> 00:32:01,397
People would be
very unkind to you
814
00:32:01,484 --> 00:32:03,182
if you take a Dilla
track, and you
815
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:04,792
don't make the most out of it.
816
00:32:04,879 --> 00:32:06,359
One, two, one, two.
817
00:32:06,446 --> 00:32:08,013
♪ Then they get no data ♪
818
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:09,753
♪ In any dream that
don't include us ♪
819
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,755
One more time.
820
00:32:11,842 --> 00:32:14,193
I know, like, Dilla's mom
821
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,022
giving Dres those beats
822
00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:20,155
was like giving him
her heart...
823
00:32:20,242 --> 00:32:21,765
in a lot of ways.
824
00:32:21,852 --> 00:32:25,639
People have very strong,
visceral feelings
825
00:32:25,726 --> 00:32:28,207
about everything J Dilla.
826
00:32:28,294 --> 00:32:30,383
♪ Any dream that don't
include us... ♪
827
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:33,081
Normally, I would
be like, I hate this.
828
00:32:35,562 --> 00:32:37,085
You know what I'm saying?
829
00:32:37,172 --> 00:32:40,001
But I know Dres.
I love Dres.
830
00:32:40,088 --> 00:32:41,742
And I know his heart.
831
00:32:41,829 --> 00:32:45,702
But a lot of the "purists"--
we don't fuck with that shit.
832
00:32:45,789 --> 00:32:47,182
Even if Dilla was alive,
833
00:32:47,269 --> 00:32:49,968
you're going to get held
to a very high standard
834
00:32:50,055 --> 00:32:52,492
that's going
to be tough to live up to.
835
00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:56,539
And, also, there's obviously
no collaboration of any sort.
836
00:32:56,626 --> 00:32:59,325
It's not like we think
of Dres and Dilla
837
00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:00,935
in the same room at all.
838
00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:03,590
♪ Game, new deal-- ♪
Ah!
839
00:33:03,677 --> 00:33:05,679
So there's also going to be
that certain aspect
840
00:33:05,766 --> 00:33:07,594
of people going, that's random.
841
00:33:07,681 --> 00:33:09,596
Don't worry about
what people are saying.
842
00:33:09,683 --> 00:33:10,771
Worry about what
your heart is saying.
843
00:33:10,858 --> 00:33:12,686
♪ New deal ♪
844
00:33:12,773 --> 00:33:14,383
♪ I see the stars
in your eyes laying on-- ♪
845
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:15,906
Worry about what
you're going to do
846
00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:20,607
to make this a hot project.
847
00:33:20,694 --> 00:33:21,869
He know what to do.
848
00:33:21,956 --> 00:33:23,131
No, one more time.
849
00:33:23,218 --> 00:33:29,746
♪ ♪
850
00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:35,796
What I'd like to
do is just play you guys
851
00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:38,842
some of the full-length
cuts from the DnD project.
852
00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:42,716
And I've taken this
journey, like, so internally,
853
00:33:42,803 --> 00:33:46,937
and each track, I feel
like told me something.
854
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,374
So I want, you know,
just play some
855
00:33:48,461 --> 00:33:50,115
of these joints for y'all.
- Okay.
856
00:33:50,202 --> 00:33:52,378
- All right, cool.
- Yeah.
857
00:33:52,465 --> 00:33:54,597
This one is the
one with CeeLo.
858
00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:57,470
And he kills--like,
he's just so amazing.
859
00:33:57,557 --> 00:33:59,733
- I can't even imagine.
- Yeah, CeeLo is amazing.
860
00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:02,866
♪ ♪
861
00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:07,610
♪ You know I'm there, but
you don't really know me ♪
862
00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:09,699
♪ The limelight moves around ♪
- Yeah.
863
00:34:09,786 --> 00:34:12,528
[clapping]
864
00:34:12,615 --> 00:34:14,095
Wow.
865
00:34:14,182 --> 00:34:17,533
Is it still the same way?
- For now.
866
00:34:17,620 --> 00:34:21,668
♪ Don't give a fuck
about that shit you do ♪
867
00:34:21,755 --> 00:34:23,583
Ha ha!
868
00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:27,500
♪ That way
for lots of family ♪
869
00:34:27,587 --> 00:34:29,110
Oh, damn.
870
00:34:29,197 --> 00:34:31,156
- That's on point.
- Who's on this one?
871
00:34:31,243 --> 00:34:33,941
Alexander Simone,
Nina Simone's grandson,
872
00:34:34,028 --> 00:34:34,811
and Freeway.
- Right.
873
00:34:34,898 --> 00:34:37,075
- Yeah.
- Wow.
874
00:34:37,162 --> 00:34:38,772
♪ ♪
875
00:34:38,859 --> 00:34:40,687
Usually you don't get that--
876
00:34:40,774 --> 00:34:42,297
That is a full album.
877
00:34:42,384 --> 00:34:44,430
Yeah, I'm just saying
that everything is hot.
878
00:34:44,517 --> 00:34:46,562
So it's, like, fresh
and new for me,
879
00:34:46,649 --> 00:34:48,521
but I'm, like, really
energized and excited.
880
00:34:48,608 --> 00:34:52,133
It's like I recognize
what you've been through,
881
00:34:52,220 --> 00:34:53,656
and here you go.
882
00:34:53,743 --> 00:34:55,267
God got you.
- All right.
883
00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:57,095
- This project is for you.
- I love that.
884
00:34:57,182 --> 00:35:00,750
I love that.
I love that--love it, love it.
885
00:35:00,837 --> 00:35:02,361
Just to give it
a little ambience,
886
00:35:02,448 --> 00:35:04,537
I just decided to keep
some of the coconut.
887
00:35:04,624 --> 00:35:08,671
I met Maureen with
DC Loves Dilla.
888
00:35:08,758 --> 00:35:11,500
They had to come to
the radio station.
889
00:35:11,587 --> 00:35:14,199
When we got closer and
closer, and then I said,
890
00:35:14,286 --> 00:35:16,114
I'm gonna take you
to Puerto Rico.
891
00:35:16,201 --> 00:35:18,116
- Look at it.
- Yeah, a little lizard, yeah.
892
00:35:18,203 --> 00:35:19,682
He wants to be in the picture,
too, I guess.
893
00:35:19,769 --> 00:35:21,510
You know, she really
didn't understand it,
894
00:35:21,597 --> 00:35:24,731
but that was our
first real date--
895
00:35:24,818 --> 00:35:27,908
me going and taking
her to Puerto Rico.
896
00:35:27,995 --> 00:35:31,390
That's when I started asking
her certain real questions
897
00:35:31,477 --> 00:35:33,435
about, like, the people
who was around her,
898
00:35:33,522 --> 00:35:35,133
helping her
facilitate the legacy
899
00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:37,178
and the estate and everything.
900
00:35:37,265 --> 00:35:40,312
And I asked basic questions--
couldn't get answered.
901
00:35:40,399 --> 00:35:41,965
That's when I knew
it was a problem.
902
00:35:42,052 --> 00:35:43,750
After Dilla's passing,
903
00:35:43,837 --> 00:35:46,144
there's a lot of confusion, particularly
904
00:35:46,231 --> 00:35:48,146
those who should be
reaping the benefits
905
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,278
of his hard work, which is--
906
00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:52,889
You know, you reading about
it, you're hearing about it.
907
00:35:52,976 --> 00:35:55,109
Unfortunately, the lawyers
and the curator of the estate
908
00:35:55,196 --> 00:35:56,371
wouldn't let her do nothing.
909
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:59,157
The estate
people was sitting there
910
00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:00,897
trying to tell her
she can't go do
911
00:36:00,984 --> 00:36:03,161
anything with Dilla's music.
912
00:36:03,248 --> 00:36:05,206
They were stopping
her and stealing
913
00:36:05,293 --> 00:36:06,773
intellectual property.
914
00:36:06,860 --> 00:36:09,036
Shit bags.
915
00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,518
Dilla's dead.
916
00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:16,870
His family is alive
keeping the legacy alive.
917
00:36:16,957 --> 00:36:20,221
So when I got involved,
918
00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:22,354
I'm going to do like any
businessman is going to do--
919
00:36:22,441 --> 00:36:23,877
fire everybody.
920
00:36:23,964 --> 00:36:25,922
Really, the person
who is pushing
921
00:36:26,009 --> 00:36:28,751
forward all things J Dilla
922
00:36:28,838 --> 00:36:31,189
and keeping his memory alive...
923
00:36:31,276 --> 00:36:36,368
Since Dilla's passing, there
has not been a lot of success
924
00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:39,458
in getting Dilla's
music out there.
925
00:36:39,545 --> 00:36:41,199
Yo, it's like you don't
want to get involved
926
00:36:41,286 --> 00:36:44,550
in the messiness sometimes
of someone leaving us,
927
00:36:44,637 --> 00:36:46,465
and then who
controls the estate
928
00:36:46,552 --> 00:36:50,251
or the creative aspect of it?
929
00:36:50,338 --> 00:36:52,427
You know, it can be
very tricky.
930
00:36:52,514 --> 00:36:55,213
You know, just because
you have something,
931
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,867
it might not just be yours.
932
00:36:57,954 --> 00:37:01,610
You know, me with Prodigy--
I go through the same thing.
933
00:37:01,697 --> 00:37:03,351
I'm gung-ho about
putting something out,
934
00:37:03,438 --> 00:37:06,920
but I have to treat it
as if Prodigy is here.
935
00:37:07,007 --> 00:37:09,052
It's like, okay, you get
this amount of money.
936
00:37:09,139 --> 00:37:10,532
And you get that
amount of money.
937
00:37:10,619 --> 00:37:13,840
And let's just
honor our loved one.
938
00:37:13,927 --> 00:37:17,626
We humbly learned the down
effects of the music business.
939
00:37:17,713 --> 00:37:19,280
We learned that.
940
00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:20,890
Yeah, it's a difficult--
941
00:37:20,977 --> 00:37:22,675
I can't even speak
on the situation.
942
00:37:22,762 --> 00:37:24,807
I hope it gets rectified, man.
I hope--
943
00:37:24,894 --> 00:37:27,375
The importance of
making sure everything
944
00:37:27,462 --> 00:37:29,116
is clear with this particular
project is because
945
00:37:29,203 --> 00:37:31,640
you've had so many people
using Dilla's
946
00:37:31,727 --> 00:37:35,296
music without permission,
putting it out.
947
00:37:35,383 --> 00:37:38,386
And then they wonder--you
come back to us and asking us,
948
00:37:38,473 --> 00:37:40,606
how come my song
got taken down?
949
00:37:40,693 --> 00:37:42,085
Like, what happened?
950
00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:44,044
I put out a good
project and everything
951
00:37:44,131 --> 00:37:48,222
that people think that it's
okay to take someone's property
952
00:37:48,309 --> 00:37:51,660
and utilize it for your benefit
953
00:37:51,747 --> 00:37:53,575
without having permission.
954
00:37:53,662 --> 00:37:55,273
Oh, yeah?
955
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,667
Like, and naming it
DnD, Dilla and Dres,
956
00:37:58,754 --> 00:38:02,889
like, I felt like it was
important that we bond,
957
00:38:02,976 --> 00:38:06,109
that this is an opportunity
to be the difference in some
958
00:38:06,196 --> 00:38:08,982
of the stuff that
gets questioned
959
00:38:09,069 --> 00:38:10,679
and some of the stuff
that gets acknowledged.
960
00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:13,595
DnD is something
that, you know, like--
961
00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:14,988
I'll put like this.
962
00:38:15,075 --> 00:38:16,859
When we did
"The Choice Is Yours,"
963
00:38:16,946 --> 00:38:18,731
I'm standing in front of the
mixing board next to Lawnge,
964
00:38:18,818 --> 00:38:22,387
and I'm like, I don't
know what we just did,
965
00:38:22,474 --> 00:38:24,302
but I know we just
did something.
966
00:38:24,389 --> 00:38:26,391
- Word.
- And that's how I feel.
967
00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:31,221
There is a pressure
that I put upon myself,
968
00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:32,919
if anything, I think.
969
00:38:33,006 --> 00:38:34,660
These people that
love your son...
970
00:38:34,747 --> 00:38:36,575
Yeah.
971
00:38:36,662 --> 00:38:38,707
They're looking at me like,
and you're about to do what?
972
00:38:38,794 --> 00:38:41,188
[laughter]
973
00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:43,233
He's gone, but his
music is still here.
974
00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:44,844
- Right.
- You've been given the idea.
975
00:38:44,931 --> 00:38:46,367
You've been given the talent.
976
00:38:46,454 --> 00:38:49,065
You've been blessed
to make this approach
977
00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:53,287
and shine more light on what
and who he was from people
978
00:38:53,374 --> 00:38:54,375
that knew him best.
- Yeah.
979
00:38:54,462 --> 00:38:56,421
I think
that's very important.
980
00:38:56,508 --> 00:38:58,031
You know, it's going to be
a lot of those people
981
00:38:58,118 --> 00:38:59,902
that really don't know
how to feel.
982
00:38:59,989 --> 00:39:02,209
It's a lot of those people
that were close to him
983
00:39:02,296 --> 00:39:04,690
that are still mourning him.
- Right.
984
00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:08,563
You can't be afraid
to take that step.
985
00:39:08,650 --> 00:39:10,739
Let them have a taste of Dilla,
you know,
986
00:39:10,826 --> 00:39:13,263
and show them--so you've
got to give it to them.
987
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:15,004
That's real.
That's what we about to do.
988
00:39:15,091 --> 00:39:16,484
Exactly, exactly.
989
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:24,187
[serene music]
990
00:39:24,274 --> 00:39:29,105
♪ ♪
991
00:39:29,192 --> 00:39:31,978
One of the things that's
really important to me
992
00:39:32,065 --> 00:39:34,459
in the making of this
project is Dilla's approval.
993
00:39:34,546 --> 00:39:38,288
And all of that doesn't
take place any other way
994
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,769
without me learning about him.
995
00:39:40,856 --> 00:39:44,120
I wasn't going to get
a phone call from Dilla.
996
00:39:44,207 --> 00:39:47,210
I had to take the initiative
to find him.
997
00:39:47,297 --> 00:39:50,562
I had to take the initiative
to find his friends.
998
00:39:50,649 --> 00:39:52,564
Where's Frank?
Oh, wait--Frank, Frank.
999
00:39:52,651 --> 00:39:54,043
I'm here.
Frank is here.
1000
00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,306
How y'all doing?
Holla at your boy.
1001
00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,308
Dilla, tell me if you remember
this--when we was in the...
1002
00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:01,094
Frank Nitty was
Dilla's right hand.
1003
00:40:01,181 --> 00:40:04,750
Frank was always there,
and he cared about Dilla.
1004
00:40:04,837 --> 00:40:06,360
Seven years
I put out records.
1005
00:40:06,447 --> 00:40:08,188
Everything I put
out was a J Dilla track.
1006
00:40:08,275 --> 00:40:10,146
Everybody needs that
guy to hold him down,
1007
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,018
and that was him.
1008
00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:13,280
♪ Is how we do ♪
1009
00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:14,455
♪ We can do two ♪
1010
00:40:14,542 --> 00:40:15,978
♪ We got two for you ♪
1011
00:40:16,065 --> 00:40:17,415
And he can rap pretty
fucking good, too.
1012
00:40:17,502 --> 00:40:19,939
- What's up?
- What up, yo?
1013
00:40:20,026 --> 00:40:22,158
Want to come ride
in the family vehicle?
1014
00:40:22,245 --> 00:40:23,333
Dude.
What up?
1015
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,118
You feel me?
- Chilling, man.
1016
00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:26,728
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
- That's what's up.
1017
00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:28,121
Man, we've been waiting
for this.
1018
00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:29,731
Yeah.
1019
00:40:29,818 --> 00:40:31,690
Yep.
1020
00:40:31,777 --> 00:40:34,127
When I was, you know, going
through Dilla's catalog
1021
00:40:34,214 --> 00:40:35,737
and pulling tracks,
1022
00:40:35,824 --> 00:40:37,696
I didn't know that
Frank Nitt--he was the one
1023
00:40:37,783 --> 00:40:40,350
that compiled them all.
1024
00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:43,571
It's dope that you taking the
time to get a little history.
1025
00:40:43,658 --> 00:40:46,356
But if he was here
and we was doing this,
1026
00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,663
I probably would've been
in his car picking you up
1027
00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:50,926
from the airport
to come do the work,
1028
00:40:51,013 --> 00:40:53,059
because that's how it went
down, you know what I'm saying?
1029
00:40:53,146 --> 00:40:55,235
I'm so grateful for it, man.
1030
00:40:55,322 --> 00:40:57,063
Dres, my mom wants you.
1031
00:40:57,150 --> 00:40:58,717
And he's extremely humble.
1032
00:40:58,804 --> 00:40:59,892
He's a good guy.
1033
00:40:59,979 --> 00:41:01,633
Don't let his humble fool you.
1034
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:03,983
This a hip-hop
luminary in a lot of ways
1035
00:41:04,070 --> 00:41:06,725
just hanging out in your
basement at this point.
1036
00:41:06,812 --> 00:41:07,813
[laughs]
1037
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,684
Being here creates
1038
00:41:09,771 --> 00:41:12,992
a certain type of individual
based on the path you take.
1039
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:14,733
One thing about
being from Detroit
1040
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:17,475
and being from the '80s or
the '90s, in particular--
1041
00:41:17,562 --> 00:41:18,824
I would say it's
an acquired taste.
1042
00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:21,914
Jalen Rose from
the University of Michigan.
1043
00:41:22,001 --> 00:41:23,655
That's where I can
help him a whole lot,
1044
00:41:23,742 --> 00:41:25,265
and that's what I'm
looking to do from day one.
1045
00:41:25,352 --> 00:41:26,919
Detroit's an
industrial giant.
1046
00:41:27,006 --> 00:41:28,660
I mean, it's changed
over the decades.
1047
00:41:28,747 --> 00:41:30,575
Largest automobile
plant in the world.
1048
00:41:30,662 --> 00:41:32,751
Detroit was a thriving
city in the '70s.
1049
00:41:32,838 --> 00:41:35,493
Chevrolet, Ford, and Chrysler
manufacturing cars,
1050
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:37,712
and we also had
Motown Records.
1051
00:41:37,799 --> 00:41:41,194
And music and cars
became our heartbeat.
1052
00:41:41,281 --> 00:41:43,675
Detroit leads the nation
in violent crime.
1053
00:41:43,762 --> 00:41:45,503
It started to change
in the '80s
1054
00:41:45,590 --> 00:41:48,506
as the crack epidemic hit,
and it went on the decline.
1055
00:41:48,593 --> 00:41:50,638
It's a diamond in the rough.
1056
00:41:50,725 --> 00:41:52,771
It's just really,
really rough.
1057
00:41:52,858 --> 00:41:55,730
And I think Dilla applied that
hustle and smarts
1058
00:41:55,817 --> 00:41:57,297
to music.
1059
00:41:57,384 --> 00:41:59,865
I don't know.
1060
00:41:59,952 --> 00:42:01,867
I wonder how he would
feel to see this--
1061
00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:03,825
to know that, you know,
at some point,
1062
00:42:03,912 --> 00:42:05,261
people in your city
kind of caught up to it.
1063
00:42:05,348 --> 00:42:07,133
Right, right.
1064
00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:08,787
- You know what I'm saying?
- Right, right, right.
1065
00:42:08,874 --> 00:42:10,397
That's so huge, man.
1066
00:42:10,484 --> 00:42:12,094
[indistinct chatter]
1067
00:42:12,181 --> 00:42:14,532
Let's see if y'all
know what's going on here?
1068
00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:16,534
I want to take y'all
to the East Side of Detroit
1069
00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:18,536
real quick.
1070
00:42:18,623 --> 00:42:22,627
I'm talking Detroit history
musically was this place
1071
00:42:22,714 --> 00:42:25,064
right here, Pershing High.
1072
00:42:25,151 --> 00:42:27,501
I started here as a freshman,
and then Dilla didn't come
1073
00:42:27,588 --> 00:42:29,372
here until his senior year.
1074
00:42:29,459 --> 00:42:32,419
♪ And I'ma play
this game for you ♪
1075
00:42:32,506 --> 00:42:34,595
So we had this
thing we used to do
1076
00:42:34,682 --> 00:42:35,901
called "shake it up"
1077
00:42:35,988 --> 00:42:37,555
after school right here
with the crew.
1078
00:42:37,642 --> 00:42:39,339
We was known as the
hip-hop kids, man.
1079
00:42:39,426 --> 00:42:42,603
And, like, when we was doing
it, hip-hop wasn't cool to do.
1080
00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:45,867
♪ To be smacked
open-handedly by these ♪
1081
00:42:45,954 --> 00:42:48,000
We used to make music at...
[speaks indistinctly]
1082
00:42:48,087 --> 00:42:50,219
Which is, like,
a couple of blocks that way.
1083
00:42:50,306 --> 00:42:51,743
You know, that was, like,
our first real studio
1084
00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,135
to work at and do things.
1085
00:42:53,222 --> 00:42:57,357
[electronic tones]
1086
00:42:57,444 --> 00:42:59,794
I think that Dilla
created a whole genre
1087
00:42:59,881 --> 00:43:04,146
for soul music and hip-hop that
could have its own category.
1088
00:43:04,233 --> 00:43:07,193
Nobody else created
beats like that, you know,
1089
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,326
that felt that way.
1090
00:43:10,413 --> 00:43:14,853
Years ago--it must have
been late '80s or '90s,
1091
00:43:14,940 --> 00:43:16,637
I was smoking a joint
in front of the house,
1092
00:43:16,724 --> 00:43:18,378
and so he said, yo,
man, I hear that music
1093
00:43:18,465 --> 00:43:20,119
coming out of the house.
1094
00:43:20,206 --> 00:43:21,294
You got equipment down there?
You making music?
1095
00:43:21,381 --> 00:43:22,991
I said, yep, I do.
1096
00:43:23,078 --> 00:43:25,777
He brought the music
that he had been creating
1097
00:43:25,864 --> 00:43:28,693
from beat matching
with cassettes,
1098
00:43:28,780 --> 00:43:31,609
and that's how it all started.
1099
00:43:31,696 --> 00:43:35,830
At that point, I taught
him how to use the MPC.
1100
00:43:35,917 --> 00:43:37,745
It was watching
a light bulb go off.
1101
00:43:37,832 --> 00:43:39,529
It was, like,
a dream come true
1102
00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:41,488
to finally be able to
manipulate music like this
1103
00:43:41,575 --> 00:43:42,663
and put it together so fast.
1104
00:43:45,710 --> 00:43:48,800
So then he left stuff like this
that I have in the machine.
1105
00:43:48,887 --> 00:43:53,021
That's cool--that
I'll still have.
1106
00:43:53,108 --> 00:43:55,981
[hip-hop music plays]
1107
00:43:56,068 --> 00:44:02,683
♪ ♪
1108
00:44:07,209 --> 00:44:08,471
Crazy.
1109
00:44:08,558 --> 00:44:10,169
So there's probably
1110
00:44:10,256 --> 00:44:12,084
about six other keyboard sounds
like that,
1111
00:44:12,171 --> 00:44:15,000
where he played the chords
with just one note.
1112
00:44:15,087 --> 00:44:17,524
That showed you
how great his ear was...
1113
00:44:17,611 --> 00:44:21,136
[notes playing]
1114
00:44:21,223 --> 00:44:23,661
Just the fact that
all these keyboard songs--
1115
00:44:23,748 --> 00:44:25,663
that just one chord--
1116
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:27,665
he sampled it, and then
played it on the pad.
1117
00:44:27,752 --> 00:44:30,624
Nobody else was doing that.
1118
00:44:30,711 --> 00:44:33,235
How many songs you
got done already?
1119
00:44:33,322 --> 00:44:35,411
- Probably about 12, 13.
- Okay, that's good.
1120
00:44:35,498 --> 00:44:37,631
I would love to play a track
or two for you, man...
1121
00:44:37,718 --> 00:44:39,198
- Yeah, I'd love to hear it.
- If it's cool.
1122
00:44:39,285 --> 00:44:40,242
You know what I'm saying?
- Yeah, please.
1123
00:44:40,329 --> 00:44:41,896
[hip-hop music plays]
1124
00:44:41,983 --> 00:44:43,376
♪ Everything
that glitters... ♪
1125
00:44:43,463 --> 00:44:44,943
Whoo, that shit is cold.
1126
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:47,119
♪ Be careful what you
ask for to cash in ♪
1127
00:44:47,206 --> 00:44:49,251
♪ Said, I'm a ride or die,
baby, mob me ♪
1128
00:44:49,338 --> 00:44:55,997
♪ ♪
1129
00:44:56,084 --> 00:44:57,695
Wow.
1130
00:44:57,782 --> 00:44:59,348
That's the shit.
You're on a roll right now.
1131
00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:02,090
You need to keep--
you need to stay on that hill.
1132
00:45:02,177 --> 00:45:04,876
[chuckles]
1133
00:45:04,963 --> 00:45:07,095
A lot of music that's
still out here,
1134
00:45:07,182 --> 00:45:10,272
you know, and she could
have chose anybody.
1135
00:45:10,359 --> 00:45:12,579
She got to keep
the bar up here.
1136
00:45:12,666 --> 00:45:14,755
[soft music]
1137
00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:18,846
The spot--the
old street here.
1138
00:45:18,933 --> 00:45:21,936
We never used this front door--
always the back door.
1139
00:45:22,023 --> 00:45:24,460
Come by the stoop.
Come by the house.
1140
00:45:24,547 --> 00:45:26,375
Come to Nevada.
1141
00:45:26,462 --> 00:45:29,030
I was in this house as
a 12-, 13-year-old kid
1142
00:45:29,117 --> 00:45:30,423
running around.
1143
00:45:30,510 --> 00:45:32,164
Like, Ma upstairs cooking--
1144
00:45:32,251 --> 00:45:34,514
for real, like, making pies
and snacks,
1145
00:45:34,601 --> 00:45:37,299
while we trying to make...
make music--
1146
00:45:37,386 --> 00:45:39,780
or do something we dream of,
you know what I'm saying?
1147
00:45:39,867 --> 00:45:41,564
Like, make a dream come true.
1148
00:45:41,651 --> 00:45:45,481
Dilla Studios--don't
nobody get this motherfucker.
1149
00:45:45,568 --> 00:45:47,048
Frank is in it deep.
1150
00:45:47,135 --> 00:45:48,528
It was just automatic
to work with him.
1151
00:45:48,615 --> 00:45:50,051
Know what I'm saying?
That's family.
1152
00:45:50,138 --> 00:45:51,618
You have outdone
your cousin today.
1153
00:45:51,705 --> 00:45:53,533
James Dewitt Yancey
as a person--
1154
00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:56,057
extremely smart, bullheaded.
1155
00:45:56,144 --> 00:45:58,059
He want to do what
he want to do.
1156
00:45:58,146 --> 00:45:59,278
You got something
to say for the camera?
1157
00:45:59,365 --> 00:46:00,627
Funny--a lot of
people don't know.
1158
00:46:00,714 --> 00:46:02,585
You motherfuckers...
1159
00:46:02,672 --> 00:46:04,587
The first thing I learned
about DJing was from him.
1160
00:46:04,674 --> 00:46:06,111
Like, he showed
me how to scratch.
1161
00:46:06,198 --> 00:46:08,461
After school, we walked--
1162
00:46:08,548 --> 00:46:11,420
Oh, come over to the crib.
I want to show you this.
1163
00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:14,162
Talk about J Dilla's
basement is--we walk in.
1164
00:46:14,249 --> 00:46:17,426
His records
all over the walls.
1165
00:46:17,513 --> 00:46:21,517
That's how I got to know
him--sitting in the basement
1166
00:46:21,604 --> 00:46:23,650
with the tiles.
1167
00:46:23,737 --> 00:46:25,608
Got the couch
where I was laid out.
1168
00:46:25,695 --> 00:46:27,567
Mother cooking
for me upstairs.
1169
00:46:27,654 --> 00:46:30,004
He's like, use my records.
I don't care what you use.
1170
00:46:30,091 --> 00:46:32,311
Pete Rock is in my house, man,
making beats.
1171
00:46:32,398 --> 00:46:33,834
It's like two giants--
1172
00:46:33,921 --> 00:46:35,488
the Hulk and The Thing
just chilling out,
1173
00:46:35,575 --> 00:46:37,316
teaching each other.
1174
00:46:37,403 --> 00:46:40,275
And we became real fast,
talking to each other like--
1175
00:46:40,362 --> 00:46:41,799
you know?
1176
00:46:41,886 --> 00:46:43,278
- I mean, I got all that shit.
- Right.
1177
00:46:43,365 --> 00:46:45,498
I had that shit.
I just wanted to get some--
1178
00:46:45,585 --> 00:46:47,805
He has this process,
a way of hooking up drums,
1179
00:46:47,892 --> 00:46:49,545
making the drums
sound like they sound.
1180
00:46:49,632 --> 00:46:52,287
That's it. He plays the
record, or he hears something.
1181
00:46:52,374 --> 00:46:54,333
Oh.
1182
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:55,682
Puts it in the machine.
1183
00:46:55,769 --> 00:46:57,423
Hears something else--oh.
1184
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:58,859
I'm watching all these
things, and I'm like,
1185
00:46:58,946 --> 00:47:00,469
this is alchemy.
1186
00:47:00,556 --> 00:47:03,385
This is fucking science
what's going on right here.
1187
00:47:03,472 --> 00:47:06,911
That's what makes it special,
as well as all the music
1188
00:47:06,998 --> 00:47:09,914
and all the stars
and celebrities
1189
00:47:10,001 --> 00:47:12,220
that pulled up in our hood
to come get that work.
1190
00:47:12,307 --> 00:47:14,092
You know what I mean?
1191
00:47:14,179 --> 00:47:15,397
- They all came down to the D.
- They came to the D.
1192
00:47:15,484 --> 00:47:17,138
They all came to the D.
That's what I'm saying.
1193
00:47:17,225 --> 00:47:18,183
I'm still a fan of
this hip-hop shit.
1194
00:47:18,270 --> 00:47:19,793
You know what I'm saying?
1195
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,839
Shit like that--it's
still part of the dream.
1196
00:47:21,926 --> 00:47:24,624
It's still part of the--
I can't believe it.
1197
00:47:24,711 --> 00:47:26,844
♪ Putting it
on the map for the D ♪
1198
00:47:26,931 --> 00:47:29,890
Yo.
DJ Dez.
1199
00:47:29,977 --> 00:47:31,544
[cheers and applause]
1200
00:47:31,631 --> 00:47:33,763
I feel like I represent
something special, man.
1201
00:47:33,851 --> 00:47:35,591
I'm proud of the era.
1202
00:47:35,678 --> 00:47:39,682
I'm proud of the cast
that I came in with--
1203
00:47:39,769 --> 00:47:41,206
a lot of history.
1204
00:47:41,293 --> 00:47:43,121
Finally, that's word.
1205
00:47:43,208 --> 00:47:44,774
First of all, how
did you meet Dilla?
1206
00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:47,299
We met at Amp's house.
1207
00:47:47,386 --> 00:47:49,997
You just feel like you
at the right place--
1208
00:47:50,084 --> 00:47:52,826
you know what I'm saying--
or right moment.
1209
00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:56,090
You know when you in the midst
of somebody that's special.
1210
00:47:57,962 --> 00:48:01,182
I felt like we was going
to take over the world.
1211
00:48:01,269 --> 00:48:03,141
I felt like
that was my partner.
1212
00:48:03,228 --> 00:48:06,013
We was aliens, and we was going
to take over the world.
1213
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:07,754
Right, right, right, right.
1214
00:48:07,841 --> 00:48:11,105
I get it, because since
I kind of started this project
1215
00:48:11,192 --> 00:48:13,151
and announced that I'm
doing this project,
1216
00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:16,458
the energy around it
kind of goes throughout
1217
00:48:16,545 --> 00:48:19,722
my entire sphere of awareness.
1218
00:48:19,809 --> 00:48:21,463
You know what I'm saying?
1219
00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:23,161
Like, everything around me
became kind of charged.
1220
00:48:23,248 --> 00:48:24,553
You know what I'm saying?
1221
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,728
- It's special.
- Yeah, yeah.
1222
00:48:25,815 --> 00:48:27,165
It's a special dynamic.
1223
00:48:27,252 --> 00:48:29,471
Yeah, it is a very
special dynamic.
1224
00:48:36,435 --> 00:48:38,393
Hmm.
1225
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,309
[clicks tongue]
1226
00:48:41,396 --> 00:48:43,485
Keep the passion, man.
1227
00:48:43,572 --> 00:48:45,270
You might run
into an obstacle.
1228
00:48:45,357 --> 00:48:48,926
[serious music]
1229
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:52,842
Just keep the passion, because...
1230
00:48:52,930 --> 00:48:55,062
you know,
this past can get tricky.
1231
00:48:55,149 --> 00:48:57,717
♪ ♪
1232
00:48:57,804 --> 00:49:01,373
And it's just...
- Right.
1233
00:49:01,460 --> 00:49:03,157
[sighs]
1234
00:49:03,244 --> 00:49:05,986
♪ ♪
1235
00:49:06,073 --> 00:49:08,684
Things become way more
complicated after you gone.
1236
00:49:08,771 --> 00:49:12,993
♪ ♪
1237
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,475
He came back
from tour 2000--
1238
00:49:16,562 --> 00:49:18,651
from UK.
1239
00:49:18,738 --> 00:49:20,522
He just wasn't feeling good.
1240
00:49:20,609 --> 00:49:23,177
So, during his hospital
stay that we thought
1241
00:49:23,264 --> 00:49:25,179
was going to be just
for observation,
1242
00:49:25,266 --> 00:49:26,964
it ends up being a couple
months because he has
1243
00:49:27,051 --> 00:49:29,531
to have dialysis, you know?
1244
00:49:29,618 --> 00:49:33,927
And he had lupus, which was
a very rare blood disease.
1245
00:49:34,014 --> 00:49:38,018
And I think they said it
was one in...
1246
00:49:38,105 --> 00:49:40,978
10,000,000.
1247
00:49:41,065 --> 00:49:43,632
J Dilla was like
my roommate out here.
1248
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,591
So I would go home
every day, and he
1249
00:49:45,678 --> 00:49:48,855
would be working on his MPC,
making beats, creating magic.
1250
00:49:48,942 --> 00:49:50,726
And then eventually
he got sick,
1251
00:49:50,813 --> 00:49:52,598
I'd watch him, you know,
physically deteriorating.
1252
00:49:52,685 --> 00:49:56,602
[crowd chanting]
1253
00:49:56,689 --> 00:49:58,299
The first time I seen him
in a wheelchair
1254
00:49:58,386 --> 00:49:59,779
was when he rolled
off the plane.
1255
00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,563
It was basically
his last tour.
1256
00:50:01,650 --> 00:50:05,524
What up, doe?
[cheering]
1257
00:50:05,611 --> 00:50:06,829
What up, doe?
1258
00:50:06,916 --> 00:50:09,484
[cheering]
Yeah!
1259
00:50:09,571 --> 00:50:12,574
And I'm not gonna act like
there's anything different.
1260
00:50:12,661 --> 00:50:14,794
You know, it's still Dilla.
What up, boy?
1261
00:50:14,881 --> 00:50:16,665
You know, it's still that.
1262
00:50:16,752 --> 00:50:19,538
The only thing I did ask him
was, yo, we been filming.
1263
00:50:19,625 --> 00:50:22,976
If you don't want to be on
camera, tell me now, you know.
1264
00:50:23,063 --> 00:50:25,413
No, film that shit.
Film that shit.
1265
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:28,808
It's a blessing to
be out here right now
1266
00:50:28,895 --> 00:50:31,854
bringing you this celebration--
that's what it is.
1267
00:50:31,941 --> 00:50:34,031
Retrospect, he knew.
1268
00:50:34,118 --> 00:50:36,120
He knew his time was coming.
1269
00:50:36,207 --> 00:50:38,165
He even brought his
moms to see you all.
1270
00:50:38,252 --> 00:50:41,647
Make some motherfucking noise!
[cheering]
1271
00:50:41,734 --> 00:50:45,825
He didn't take anything
that day, but he's hurting,
1272
00:50:45,912 --> 00:50:47,914
I can imagine, all over.
1273
00:50:48,001 --> 00:50:50,047
- It's Ma Dukes, y'all.
- Bring Ma Dukes to the stage.
1274
00:50:50,134 --> 00:50:51,570
[cheering]
1275
00:50:51,657 --> 00:50:54,964
That last night
before he passed away,
1276
00:50:55,052 --> 00:50:59,360
he's finishing up
his last project.
1277
00:50:59,447 --> 00:51:03,364
Now all I got to do is
get the bass line, he says.
1278
00:51:03,451 --> 00:51:05,453
In his hospital bed,
you know,
1279
00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:07,368
with his little
crate of records,
1280
00:51:07,455 --> 00:51:09,544
little, small
little turntable,
1281
00:51:09,631 --> 00:51:12,286
I'm sick, possibly dying.
1282
00:51:14,332 --> 00:51:16,421
Where's my MPC?
1283
00:51:16,508 --> 00:51:19,598
That's a whole
other mind state.
1284
00:51:19,685 --> 00:51:21,600
It was something that
I didn't want to accept,
1285
00:51:21,687 --> 00:51:24,733
that he was losing himself.
1286
00:51:24,820 --> 00:51:27,475
♪ ♪
1287
00:51:27,562 --> 00:51:31,653
Even as I'm holding him, he
just had a breath in my arm.
1288
00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:33,960
But that breath that I felt
was his last breath,
1289
00:51:34,047 --> 00:51:35,309
and he died in my arms.
1290
00:51:35,396 --> 00:51:37,746
♪ ♪
1291
00:51:37,833 --> 00:51:40,532
I had so much love and so
many people supporting me
1292
00:51:40,619 --> 00:51:43,056
around me.
1293
00:51:43,143 --> 00:51:45,450
Eventually I'll come home,
and he's not there no more.
1294
00:51:45,537 --> 00:51:48,496
So his spirit is still
here, and he's living
1295
00:51:48,583 --> 00:51:50,716
forever through the music.
1296
00:51:50,803 --> 00:51:54,328
It's just that dedication.
1297
00:51:54,415 --> 00:51:56,374
Everybody can't be
on that type of time.
1298
00:51:56,461 --> 00:51:59,899
[cheers and applause]
- Thank you all for coming out.
1299
00:51:59,986 --> 00:52:02,597
I love you all, man.
1300
00:52:02,684 --> 00:52:05,600
♪ ♪
1301
00:52:05,687 --> 00:52:07,994
Too young...
1302
00:52:08,081 --> 00:52:09,604
died too young.
1303
00:52:09,691 --> 00:52:15,697
♪ ♪
1304
00:52:20,572 --> 00:52:22,922
When we started coming
here, he was digging.
1305
00:52:23,009 --> 00:52:25,229
Now, they got memorabilia,
T-shirts, all that, but...
1306
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,797
It is ice cold.
1307
00:52:28,884 --> 00:52:30,147
Shit.
1308
00:52:32,540 --> 00:52:35,239
I've been here so many times.
You have no idea.
1309
00:52:35,326 --> 00:52:36,892
Even after I had records,
we still would come in here,
1310
00:52:36,979 --> 00:52:38,198
and he would dig.
1311
00:52:38,285 --> 00:52:39,982
And we had, you know,
singles out.
1312
00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:42,942
Our singles would
be here on the wall.
1313
00:52:43,029 --> 00:52:44,987
There go Dilla's
signature right there.
1314
00:52:45,074 --> 00:52:46,859
- All right.
- Yep.
1315
00:52:46,946 --> 00:52:49,078
"Jay Dee, Slum Village."
1316
00:52:49,166 --> 00:52:52,299
And then if we go all
the way down over here,
1317
00:52:52,386 --> 00:52:54,171
you'll find your boy Nitty...
1318
00:52:54,258 --> 00:52:55,650
- All right.
- Right there.
1319
00:52:55,737 --> 00:52:57,217
That's what's up.
1320
00:52:57,304 --> 00:52:58,871
- You want to go above Quest?
- Okay, sounds good.
1321
00:52:58,958 --> 00:53:00,177
- That good?
- Yeah.
1322
00:53:03,310 --> 00:53:05,051
All right.
- Thank you.
1323
00:53:05,138 --> 00:53:07,184
I feel honored.
[chuckles]
1324
00:53:07,271 --> 00:53:08,533
You know what's
a good example?
1325
00:53:08,620 --> 00:53:10,099
Check with--what is it--
1326
00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:12,624
"Why I Got To Be Like That,"
Pharcyde, okay?
1327
00:53:12,711 --> 00:53:16,410
And then listen
to "Do For Love" by Tupac.
1328
00:53:16,497 --> 00:53:20,109
J, he took record digging
to a whole nother level.
1329
00:53:20,197 --> 00:53:25,158
I mean, he would come in,
literally sit down,
1330
00:53:25,245 --> 00:53:27,900
grab the most obscure
jazz album
1331
00:53:27,987 --> 00:53:30,381
that you could
actually think of,
1332
00:53:30,468 --> 00:53:33,558
and he would play
X amount of songs.
1333
00:53:33,645 --> 00:53:38,040
His knowledge was
just a joy to behold.
1334
00:53:38,127 --> 00:53:39,868
The last three years,
all production,
1335
00:53:39,955 --> 00:53:41,609
just trying to get my name out.
1336
00:53:41,696 --> 00:53:43,568
I still consider myself
underground, very underground.
1337
00:53:43,655 --> 00:53:47,224
I want to get across there
and still do what I do.
1338
00:53:47,311 --> 00:53:50,314
You know, and Detroit
is the type of city
1339
00:53:50,401 --> 00:53:54,143
where, if you
don't come correct,
1340
00:53:54,231 --> 00:53:56,102
you will be called out for it.
1341
00:53:56,189 --> 00:53:58,757
I mean, talk about no-fly zone.
1342
00:53:58,844 --> 00:54:00,193
Krrrr!
1343
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,760
That's how bad it is.
1344
00:54:01,847 --> 00:54:04,110
You know, don't let the
smooth taste fool you.
1345
00:54:04,197 --> 00:54:05,807
We handle our own around here.
1346
00:54:05,894 --> 00:54:07,635
But we also praise...
1347
00:54:07,722 --> 00:54:08,984
When it's done correctly?
1348
00:54:09,071 --> 00:54:11,204
When it's done correct, yes.
1349
00:54:11,291 --> 00:54:12,945
Oh, most definitely.
1350
00:54:13,032 --> 00:54:15,339
Excellent, because that's
what this is all about.
1351
00:54:15,426 --> 00:54:16,992
This is all about
doing it correctly.
1352
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:21,214
♪ ♪
1353
00:54:21,301 --> 00:54:24,739
It has a weirdness to it.
1354
00:54:24,826 --> 00:54:27,438
I could definitely
sense, you know,
1355
00:54:27,525 --> 00:54:30,658
the territorial
aspect of people's
1356
00:54:30,745 --> 00:54:33,095
relationships with Dilla--
that I didn't have this.
1357
00:54:33,182 --> 00:54:34,358
You know, I wasn't in the room.
1358
00:54:34,445 --> 00:54:36,273
I wasn't there.
You know, I get it.
1359
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,753
I would be a little territorial
as well probably.
1360
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,799
[cell phone chimes]
1361
00:54:40,886 --> 00:54:42,235
Yo...
1362
00:54:46,544 --> 00:54:48,415
Oh, wow.
1363
00:54:48,502 --> 00:54:50,591
Man.
1364
00:54:50,678 --> 00:54:53,551
That's kind of
the energy that--
1365
00:54:53,638 --> 00:54:55,553
you know, like, the energy
that exists around this
1366
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,296
is very elusive.
1367
00:54:59,383 --> 00:55:01,254
Yeah.
1368
00:55:01,341 --> 00:55:05,084
Ask her, you know, if
I may, what happened?
1369
00:55:17,879 --> 00:55:20,621
Even if she don't do it,
whoever she talking to,
1370
00:55:20,708 --> 00:55:23,320
she should be armed with the
truth about the situation.
1371
00:55:23,407 --> 00:55:24,973
They don't know if I'm a
piece of shit trying to take
1372
00:55:25,060 --> 00:55:26,235
advantage of a situation.
1373
00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:27,802
Why should I trust you?
1374
00:55:27,889 --> 00:55:29,369
So whatever
the fuck they saying...
1375
00:55:29,456 --> 00:55:32,851
Yeah, and I'm definitely
trying not to...
1376
00:55:32,938 --> 00:55:36,071
take anything personal.
1377
00:55:36,158 --> 00:55:38,378
It's not even
a "fuck you" thing.
1378
00:55:40,815 --> 00:55:44,253
It's a "what the fuck
are you doing?" thing.
1379
00:55:46,647 --> 00:55:49,650
♪ ♪
1380
00:55:49,737 --> 00:55:53,132
[line trilling]
1381
00:55:57,745 --> 00:55:59,660
Hey, Dres.
1382
00:55:59,747 --> 00:56:01,619
What's going on?
1383
00:56:01,706 --> 00:56:04,839
So I just got off the phone
with Toney and Ma's attorney.
1384
00:56:04,926 --> 00:56:06,275
Oh, yeah?
1385
00:56:06,363 --> 00:56:07,929
And there seems
to be a little bit
1386
00:56:08,016 --> 00:56:10,889
of hesitancy on their part
about this project,
1387
00:56:10,976 --> 00:56:13,282
in general.
1388
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:16,373
This is coming from--
1389
00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:18,549
it's coming from left field.
1390
00:56:18,636 --> 00:56:20,725
- I'm sorry.
- This is news to me.
1391
00:56:20,812 --> 00:56:22,727
Yeah, do you have
anything signed
1392
00:56:22,814 --> 00:56:24,685
with them at this point?
1393
00:56:24,772 --> 00:56:27,427
Remember when we were
first putting this together?
1394
00:56:27,514 --> 00:56:28,950
- Yeah.
- You told me--
1395
00:56:29,037 --> 00:56:31,431
let's clarify everything
going on with the music.
1396
00:56:31,518 --> 00:56:35,609
But the music--it was
done on the goodwill
1397
00:56:35,696 --> 00:56:37,655
of me, Toney, and Ma.
- Okay.
1398
00:56:37,742 --> 00:56:40,397
I've been moving forward
and speaking like--
1399
00:56:40,484 --> 00:56:44,662
like I had Ma's blessings--
that they allowed me to do
1400
00:56:44,749 --> 00:56:46,011
this from the very beginning.
1401
00:56:46,098 --> 00:56:48,187
Yeah, look, Dres, if I'm
understanding correctly,
1402
00:56:48,274 --> 00:56:50,885
you haven't had a chance
to paper up a deal yet
1403
00:56:50,972 --> 00:56:52,409
for the album
itself, right?
1404
00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:55,107
I'm the only one that's
spent money in the creation
1405
00:56:55,194 --> 00:56:56,151
of this project.
1406
00:56:56,238 --> 00:56:58,197
No one else has.
1407
00:56:58,284 --> 00:57:00,112
I've spent thousands
upon thousands of dollars
1408
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,245
creating this, getting
all kinds of features.
1409
00:57:03,332 --> 00:57:07,336
And I was under the assumption
that, in good faith,
1410
00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:08,990
they're my partners.
1411
00:57:09,077 --> 00:57:10,775
They represent
Dilla's interests.
1412
00:57:10,862 --> 00:57:13,299
J Dilla is the producer,
and I'm the MC.
1413
00:57:13,386 --> 00:57:15,257
I got--that
makes total sense.
1414
00:57:15,344 --> 00:57:18,217
I know a lot of things get
lost in translation sometimes.
1415
00:57:18,304 --> 00:57:21,829
I think Toney might
have maybe misconstrued--
1416
00:57:21,916 --> 00:57:24,528
Like, I even asked
her on film, you know,
1417
00:57:24,615 --> 00:57:27,269
why did she give me
permission to do this?
1418
00:57:27,356 --> 00:57:30,185
And the answer, you know,
was heartwarming.
1419
00:57:30,272 --> 00:57:32,231
I don't understand where
this is coming from.
1420
00:57:32,318 --> 00:57:35,452
Look, I'm not sure if
this is a game or a tactic,
1421
00:57:35,539 --> 00:57:37,454
but I'm just doing my best
1422
00:57:37,541 --> 00:57:39,151
to kind of alleviate
their concerns.
1423
00:57:39,238 --> 00:57:42,807
So the sooner we get something
in writing that outlines
1424
00:57:42,894 --> 00:57:45,200
exactly what this
relationship is
1425
00:57:45,287 --> 00:57:46,898
and exactly what you guys
are doing, the better.
1426
00:57:46,985 --> 00:57:48,465
Well, let's put
it under contract.
1427
00:57:48,552 --> 00:57:49,988
I hope we can figure this out.
1428
00:57:50,075 --> 00:57:52,991
I don't know where
they went off track.
1429
00:57:53,078 --> 00:57:57,212
I literally look at them like
an extension of my family
1430
00:57:57,299 --> 00:57:58,605
at this point.
1431
00:57:58,692 --> 00:58:00,433
But...
- [sighs]
1432
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,566
It sounds like you really
need to talk to a lawyer.
1433
00:58:02,653 --> 00:58:03,697
Yeah.
1434
00:58:03,784 --> 00:58:05,264
I appreciate it.
1435
00:58:13,141 --> 00:58:15,622
♪ ♪
1436
00:58:35,512 --> 00:58:37,731
What's really fascinating
in the music industry
1437
00:58:37,818 --> 00:58:42,519
is most artists have this
optimistic view of things.
1438
00:58:42,606 --> 00:58:44,651
They go into the studio.
They write together.
1439
00:58:44,738 --> 00:58:45,957
They hang out.
1440
00:58:46,044 --> 00:58:47,654
As y'all pass
this, y'all are going
1441
00:58:47,741 --> 00:58:48,916
to notice that he
looks like he's about
1442
00:58:49,003 --> 00:58:50,744
to spit a serious rhyme.
1443
00:58:50,831 --> 00:58:53,660
That because they work
so well with each other
1444
00:58:53,747 --> 00:58:56,402
that the contractual nature
of it will just all work out.
1445
00:58:56,489 --> 00:58:58,926
They just do and create.
1446
00:58:59,013 --> 00:59:02,016
It's a very nice way
to view the world.
1447
00:59:02,103 --> 00:59:04,802
Unfortunately...
1448
00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:07,674
that's why you need me,
1449
00:59:07,761 --> 00:59:09,894
because that's not what
the world is about.
1450
00:59:09,981 --> 00:59:12,026
Here, just sit on this chair.
Just sit over here.
1451
00:59:12,113 --> 00:59:14,072
Here, let me grab your bag.
- Oh, thanks.
1452
00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:17,902
In this specific case, which
is Dres, the organic nature
1453
00:59:17,989 --> 00:59:20,644
of the way this came about,
which is him just happening
1454
00:59:20,731 --> 00:59:23,342
to be at a show and
happened to be invited
1455
00:59:23,429 --> 00:59:26,693
by Ma to her house and
happened to talk to Toney,
1456
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:30,131
who happened to give him material,
1457
00:59:30,218 --> 00:59:33,134
his first step wasn't, like,
hey, lawyer.
1458
00:59:33,221 --> 00:59:36,137
Go call Ma Dukes' lawyer
and get a contract.
1459
00:59:36,224 --> 00:59:38,879
It's just not
the way people think.
1460
00:59:38,966 --> 00:59:42,535
All right, so...
1461
00:59:42,622 --> 00:59:45,886
I'm not sure if--
do you know I met with--
1462
00:59:45,973 --> 00:59:47,584
with Ma Dukes and Toney--
1463
00:59:47,671 --> 00:59:49,586
- Okay.
- On Thursday?
1464
00:59:49,673 --> 00:59:51,022
Yeah.
How'd that go?
1465
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:53,764
It's my understanding
that Ma Dukes,
1466
00:59:53,851 --> 00:59:57,376
through Toney's music
publishing company,
1467
00:59:57,463 --> 00:59:58,943
controls the rights
to the music...
1468
00:59:59,030 --> 01:00:00,422
at this point.
1469
01:00:00,509 --> 01:00:04,339
Their concern, I think,
is, you know, natural
1470
01:00:04,426 --> 01:00:06,124
because there's so
much product out
1471
01:00:06,211 --> 01:00:08,126
in the marketplace
right now, J Dilla product,
1472
01:00:08,213 --> 01:00:09,997
that's unauthorized.
- Right.
1473
01:00:10,084 --> 01:00:12,652
That's one of the
hesitancies of them.
1474
01:00:12,739 --> 01:00:15,046
If you look on YouTube
or on Instagram
1475
01:00:15,133 --> 01:00:18,005
or even Spotify and Apple,
1476
01:00:18,092 --> 01:00:20,094
you see unauthorized
Dilla tracks.
1477
01:00:20,181 --> 01:00:21,922
Definitely.
1478
01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:24,055
Their hesitancy
and uncomfortableness
1479
01:00:24,142 --> 01:00:26,884
is you were going off
and doing your thing,
1480
01:00:26,971 --> 01:00:29,147
and you were getting
features, and you
1481
01:00:29,234 --> 01:00:30,670
were making the tracks work.
1482
01:00:30,757 --> 01:00:33,064
And they didn't have
a real understanding
1483
01:00:33,151 --> 01:00:35,719
of what was going on
with their son's music.
1484
01:00:35,806 --> 01:00:37,546
I paid for all
of these sessions
1485
01:00:37,634 --> 01:00:38,983
and told you all
about every single--
1486
01:00:39,070 --> 01:00:40,506
you know, like, every step.
1487
01:00:40,593 --> 01:00:42,421
This is why having
contracts with them
1488
01:00:42,508 --> 01:00:44,597
is so important to them
1489
01:00:44,684 --> 01:00:47,426
and, obviously,
so important to you.
1490
01:00:47,513 --> 01:00:50,037
One of the other
problems is the estate.
1491
01:00:50,124 --> 01:00:51,952
It's a bit messy.
1492
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:56,261
In addition to Ma, there are
other parties that are vying
1493
01:00:56,348 --> 01:00:58,045
for control of the music.
1494
01:00:58,132 --> 01:01:01,266
And it's one of the things
we just have to clean up,
1495
01:01:01,353 --> 01:01:03,703
which is, I think, you know,
one of the reasons
1496
01:01:03,790 --> 01:01:06,010
that you should just
take a step back for a moment
1497
01:01:06,097 --> 01:01:08,839
so we can, you know, get
some clarity on that.
1498
01:01:08,926 --> 01:01:10,188
- All right.
- Don't focus on it.
1499
01:01:10,275 --> 01:01:13,452
Don't do any recording.
Don't talk about it.
1500
01:01:13,539 --> 01:01:17,630
Go and do Dres, tour, produce.
You know, do your thing.
1501
01:01:17,717 --> 01:01:19,763
I've taken it as far as,
in my heart,
1502
01:01:19,850 --> 01:01:22,679
like, I'm looking
at them as Dilla
1503
01:01:22,766 --> 01:01:25,029
and that me and
Dilla are a duo.
1504
01:01:25,116 --> 01:01:29,947
What she's affording
me is the platform...
1505
01:01:30,034 --> 01:01:31,992
- Right.
- For the world to see
1506
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,255
exactly what
I have to say today.
1507
01:01:34,342 --> 01:01:36,170
- No, I--
- And that's all I need.
1508
01:01:36,257 --> 01:01:38,129
That's all I need.
1509
01:01:38,216 --> 01:01:40,000
You know, there's
no paperwork.
1510
01:01:40,087 --> 01:01:42,524
So let us focus on Dilla,
1511
01:01:42,611 --> 01:01:45,310
because if we can't
make this deal,
1512
01:01:45,397 --> 01:01:48,487
then these tracks will
never see the light of day.
1513
01:01:48,574 --> 01:01:52,404
All of our time and your money
is going to go to waste.
1514
01:01:52,491 --> 01:01:56,495
Let us work on this so we
can get this deal done.
1515
01:01:56,582 --> 01:01:57,844
All right.
1516
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,587
♪ ♪
1517
01:02:01,674 --> 01:02:04,459
I've been the same artist
I've been my entire career,
1518
01:02:04,546 --> 01:02:07,375
but the music industry
can definitely make
1519
01:02:07,462 --> 01:02:10,030
anyone uneasy.
1520
01:02:10,117 --> 01:02:11,684
Is this right?
Is this correct?
1521
01:02:11,771 --> 01:02:14,252
Is anything going
to fall on me?
1522
01:02:14,339 --> 01:02:17,821
And as much as
"The Choice Is Yours" puts me
1523
01:02:17,908 --> 01:02:19,866
in a lot of rooms
and things thereof,
1524
01:02:19,953 --> 01:02:22,695
it doesn't afford me what this
project is about to afford me.
1525
01:02:25,219 --> 01:02:27,526
From here off,
I think is taking
1526
01:02:27,613 --> 01:02:31,225
some of my eggs out of this
basket and this project.
1527
01:02:31,312 --> 01:02:33,880
♪ ♪
1528
01:02:33,967 --> 01:02:36,622
There's hundreds of
thousands of examples
1529
01:02:36,709 --> 01:02:39,146
of records that have been made
that will never,
1530
01:02:39,233 --> 01:02:40,713
ever see the light of day.
1531
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,847
It's called shelving.
1532
01:02:43,934 --> 01:02:47,372
You know, the question is,
will this Dres and Dilla album
1533
01:02:47,459 --> 01:02:49,548
be one of them?
1534
01:02:54,466 --> 01:02:58,252
[person humming]
1535
01:02:58,339 --> 01:03:00,080
How'd you sleep?
1536
01:03:00,167 --> 01:03:02,082
- Oh, slept well.
- Yeah?
1537
01:03:02,169 --> 01:03:02,909
Good.
1538
01:03:06,434 --> 01:03:08,175
I told you I've got to go
to Milwaukee today, right?
1539
01:03:08,262 --> 01:03:10,917
Yep.
1540
01:03:11,004 --> 01:03:12,789
Did I tell you
what I was doing?
1541
01:03:12,876 --> 01:03:15,530
I told you I was doing
a day party for Adidas--
1542
01:03:15,617 --> 01:03:17,228
the sneaker company?
1543
01:03:17,315 --> 01:03:20,231
- Yeah, I know what that is.
- Okay, cool.
1544
01:03:20,318 --> 01:03:22,711
I definitely would like
to think that there's
1545
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,279
something inside of me that--
1546
01:03:25,366 --> 01:03:27,586
that shines inside of Sid.
1547
01:03:27,673 --> 01:03:29,849
Hey, Sidney. Hi.
1548
01:03:29,936 --> 01:03:31,459
- Say, "Happy Father's Day."
- [babbles]
1549
01:03:31,546 --> 01:03:33,331
That's my boy.
1550
01:03:33,418 --> 01:03:34,898
Who is that?
1551
01:03:34,985 --> 01:03:36,987
Who is that with them
pearly-white teeth?
1552
01:03:37,074 --> 01:03:38,510
Is that my baby?
1553
01:03:38,597 --> 01:03:41,382
Mwah! Don't be
so happy about it.
1554
01:03:41,469 --> 01:03:44,124
Sid has grown up
with me in and out.
1555
01:03:44,211 --> 01:03:46,126
Like, you know, it's kind of
a running joke in the house.
1556
01:03:46,213 --> 01:03:48,520
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm always leaving.
1557
01:03:48,607 --> 01:03:51,001
Hi, everybody.
1558
01:03:51,088 --> 01:03:53,046
Now say, "bye."
1559
01:03:53,133 --> 01:03:55,440
He always sees me traveling,
going back and forth...
1560
01:03:55,527 --> 01:03:57,877
Say, "hello."
- Hi.
1561
01:03:57,964 --> 01:04:00,445
Writing,
reciting, practicing.
1562
01:04:00,532 --> 01:04:02,142
That's dad's 9:00-to-5:00.
1563
01:04:02,229 --> 01:04:05,189
Dad is unorthodox
in the degree that, you know,
1564
01:04:05,276 --> 01:04:08,061
he doesn't see me get up
at 7:00 in the morning
1565
01:04:08,148 --> 01:04:10,803
and go to the office
and come back, ever.
1566
01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:14,285
But he's always
seen me working.
1567
01:04:14,372 --> 01:04:16,200
Did you finish?
- Yeah.
1568
01:04:16,287 --> 01:04:19,507
There were 154 questions
total on the test,
1569
01:04:19,594 --> 01:04:23,990
and I got through, like, 130.
- That's pretty good.
1570
01:04:24,077 --> 01:04:28,038
You know, like I didn't
grow up in a nuclear family.
1571
01:04:28,125 --> 01:04:30,649
Be right back, Sid.
1572
01:04:30,736 --> 01:04:34,522
So me learning how to create
1573
01:04:34,609 --> 01:04:37,917
a peaceful home is a process.
1574
01:04:38,004 --> 01:04:39,614
I don't come from it.
1575
01:04:39,701 --> 01:04:43,488
So there's times when I've
had to trial-and-error.
1576
01:04:45,316 --> 01:04:46,883
That's something
that your family
1577
01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:49,146
has to go through with you.
1578
01:04:49,233 --> 01:04:52,105
What planet has a ring?
- That's Saturn.
1579
01:04:52,192 --> 01:04:53,672
Okay, smart boy.
1580
01:04:53,759 --> 01:04:56,109
I live Saturn, too.
1581
01:04:56,196 --> 01:04:59,373
You live on Saturn, too?
I live on Earth.
1582
01:04:59,460 --> 01:05:01,071
Maybe you take me with you
when you get older
1583
01:05:01,158 --> 01:05:04,030
and you go into space?
- Okay.
1584
01:05:04,117 --> 01:05:06,424
I just want you to
know, I'm a huge fan.
1585
01:05:06,511 --> 01:05:08,513
[laughter]
1586
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:13,300
Like all my kids, they're
dreamers, without question.
1587
01:05:13,387 --> 01:05:15,781
And that's important.
It's important to dream.
1588
01:05:15,868 --> 01:05:17,391
Love you.
- Bye.
1589
01:05:17,478 --> 01:05:19,219
- I'll see you later, okay?
- Yeah.
1590
01:05:19,306 --> 01:05:20,655
All right.
1591
01:05:20,742 --> 01:05:21,918
Yeah, call Mom
when you're hungry.
1592
01:05:22,005 --> 01:05:24,485
- Yeah.
- All right?
1593
01:05:24,572 --> 01:05:27,662
You know, like, that's
the shit that ages you--
1594
01:05:27,749 --> 01:05:30,709
when you stop dreaming.
1595
01:05:30,796 --> 01:05:32,711
But when you're young,
1596
01:05:32,798 --> 01:05:35,453
you might not see
where reality and dreams meet.
1597
01:05:35,540 --> 01:05:38,064
[elevator bell dings]
1598
01:05:38,151 --> 01:05:41,241
Yo, how y'all feeling?
[cheering]
1599
01:05:41,328 --> 01:05:43,896
Yo, how y'all feeling?
[cheering]
1600
01:05:43,983 --> 01:05:45,637
Yo, my name is Dres.
1601
01:05:45,724 --> 01:05:49,075
I go by the name of the
sugar-dick daddy Mista Lawnge.
1602
01:05:49,162 --> 01:05:50,120
As you get older,
that becomes
1603
01:05:50,207 --> 01:05:51,773
a little bit more definitive,
1604
01:05:51,860 --> 01:05:54,559
definitely with your career
and relationships.
1605
01:05:54,646 --> 01:05:55,864
Once you become an
artist, you have
1606
01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:57,301
a sense of responsibility.
1607
01:05:57,388 --> 01:05:58,389
We have a sense
of responsibility
1608
01:05:58,476 --> 01:05:59,825
to all of these people
right here--
1609
01:05:59,912 --> 01:06:00,782
you know, things
that we're doing.
1610
01:06:00,869 --> 01:06:02,132
They look at us.
1611
01:06:02,219 --> 01:06:03,263
But at the same
time, I really have
1612
01:06:03,350 --> 01:06:05,178
to stress that
people are people,
1613
01:06:05,265 --> 01:06:07,311
and people make mistakes,
and nobody's perfect.
1614
01:06:07,398 --> 01:06:10,053
Like, me and Lawnge--
anything can happen.
1615
01:06:10,140 --> 01:06:12,577
What's the name of this
group on the stage tonight?
1616
01:06:12,664 --> 01:06:13,534
all:
Black Sheep!
1617
01:06:13,621 --> 01:06:15,667
Say what?
1618
01:06:15,754 --> 01:06:20,280
You know, sometimes you
outgrow relationships.
1619
01:06:20,367 --> 01:06:21,890
You got Mista Lawnge
and Dres in the house.
1620
01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:24,415
Man, what y'all been
doing for two years, man?
1621
01:06:24,502 --> 01:06:27,461
Y'all been on hiatus, man.
- Back up off us, man.
1622
01:06:27,548 --> 01:06:28,810
We hear a lot of--
1623
01:06:28,897 --> 01:06:30,203
well, you want
to go ahead and elaborate?
1624
01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:31,770
Nah, man.
1625
01:06:31,857 --> 01:06:33,119
- Say no more.
- We'll be back--
1626
01:06:33,206 --> 01:06:35,208
We got Black Sheep
in the house.
1627
01:06:35,295 --> 01:06:36,993
I missed me and
Lawnge being Black Sheep
1628
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,995
and having the
knowledge of each other,
1629
01:06:39,082 --> 01:06:40,735
as well of ourselves.
1630
01:06:40,822 --> 01:06:41,867
We had vision.
1631
01:06:41,954 --> 01:06:43,608
We had concept.
1632
01:06:43,695 --> 01:06:47,046
You know, we were a package
before we ever hit wax.
1633
01:06:47,133 --> 01:06:48,700
[indistinct shouting]
1634
01:06:48,787 --> 01:06:52,660
♪ Yo, who's the black sheep?
What's the black sheep? ♪
1635
01:06:52,747 --> 01:06:55,446
You know, people definitely
always affiliated
1636
01:06:55,533 --> 01:06:57,143
"The Choice Is Yours"
with me and Lawnge.
1637
01:06:57,230 --> 01:06:58,884
Peace, brother.
Pardon me.
1638
01:06:58,971 --> 01:07:00,886
- Black Sheep, right?
- No doubt.
1639
01:07:00,973 --> 01:07:03,497
But at this point, people have
literally seen me on my own
1640
01:07:03,584 --> 01:07:04,846
for years.
1641
01:07:04,933 --> 01:07:07,501
What up, baby?
- How you doing?
1642
01:07:07,588 --> 01:07:10,374
And with Strike
shadowing me, they've
1643
01:07:10,461 --> 01:07:13,377
come to understand that me
and Lawnge aren't together.
1644
01:07:13,464 --> 01:07:14,987
So I think, you know,
like, they kind of
1645
01:07:15,074 --> 01:07:18,512
put my face to the song today
more so than they do Lawnge.
1646
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:20,036
[tone beeps]
1647
01:07:20,123 --> 01:07:21,646
Please make sure
your seat belt is--
1648
01:07:21,733 --> 01:07:23,256
You know, like, people have
asked me, like,
1649
01:07:23,343 --> 01:07:25,084
do I ever get tired of
performing "Choice Is Yours"?
1650
01:07:25,171 --> 01:07:26,999
Coming on, doing, like,
one song and everything,
1651
01:07:27,086 --> 01:07:29,306
and they just pulled
me in for that.
1652
01:07:29,393 --> 01:07:32,439
But that's beyond a blessing.
1653
01:07:32,526 --> 01:07:34,789
Life is going to be
what it is.
1654
01:07:34,876 --> 01:07:36,400
You know what I'm saying?
1655
01:07:36,487 --> 01:07:38,532
It's not always going
to be a sunny day.
1656
01:07:40,708 --> 01:07:42,406
[shivers]
It's cold.
1657
01:07:42,493 --> 01:07:44,234
Milwaukee is
about that action.
1658
01:07:44,321 --> 01:07:45,061
Remember when we was--
where was we at?
1659
01:07:45,148 --> 01:07:47,280
It was Sweden or something.
1660
01:07:47,367 --> 01:07:48,934
It was nice when we went in
the club, and we came out--
1661
01:07:49,021 --> 01:07:50,588
- We came out, it was snowing.
- It was snowing.
1662
01:07:50,675 --> 01:07:52,155
It was like we was
in Maine or something.
1663
01:07:52,242 --> 01:07:53,547
Yo, shit was crazy.
1664
01:07:53,634 --> 01:08:00,206
♪ ♪
1665
01:08:00,293 --> 01:08:04,689
[line trilling]
1666
01:08:04,776 --> 01:08:06,299
Hello?
1667
01:08:06,386 --> 01:08:08,084
- Mr. Dawson.
- Yes, sir.
1668
01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:09,476
Hey, how's it going?
This is Dres from Black Sheep.
1669
01:08:09,563 --> 01:08:11,652
I was just trying
to find out what
1670
01:08:11,739 --> 01:08:15,917
time you would be arriving
to grab us from the hotel.
1671
01:08:17,919 --> 01:08:19,791
You perform at 6:00, right?
1672
01:08:19,878 --> 01:08:21,619
5:20.
1673
01:08:21,706 --> 01:08:22,794
Let's say 4:30.
1674
01:08:22,881 --> 01:08:24,143
- 4:30?
- Yeah.
1675
01:08:24,230 --> 01:08:25,623
- Okay.
- All right.
1676
01:08:25,710 --> 01:08:26,580
See you then, bro.
- All right.
1677
01:08:26,667 --> 01:08:28,756
[cell phone chimes]
1678
01:08:28,843 --> 01:08:29,757
Okay, cool.
1679
01:08:29,844 --> 01:08:36,721
♪ ♪
1680
01:08:56,175 --> 01:08:57,698
I'm not with the bullshit.
1681
01:08:57,785 --> 01:09:01,702
Like, and if there was a issue,
why didn't I hear from--
1682
01:09:01,789 --> 01:09:05,097
Like--
[sputters]
1683
01:09:05,184 --> 01:09:09,580
Yeah.
Yeah, like...
1684
01:09:09,667 --> 01:09:11,277
Yeah.
1685
01:09:11,364 --> 01:09:12,844
That doesn't even make sense.
1686
01:09:12,931 --> 01:09:15,063
Like, why are we doing it--
you know what I'm saying--
1687
01:09:15,151 --> 01:09:16,761
if we're not, you know--
1688
01:09:16,848 --> 01:09:17,979
Yeah.
1689
01:09:18,066 --> 01:09:21,548
Well, let me just...
1690
01:09:21,635 --> 01:09:23,507
[speaks indistinctly]
1691
01:09:23,594 --> 01:09:26,640
♪ ♪
1692
01:09:26,727 --> 01:09:28,990
And that shit is a bluff. Fuck.
1693
01:09:29,077 --> 01:09:32,168
Like, I can't imagine...
1694
01:09:32,255 --> 01:09:34,953
Toney not signing off
on this shit.
1695
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,304
As much as he's
talking about it...
1696
01:09:38,391 --> 01:09:41,394
I can't imagine it not coming
out and it being his fault.
1697
01:09:41,481 --> 01:09:43,744
She said out of her mouth,
this is signed off.
1698
01:09:43,831 --> 01:09:45,920
Yeah, like they--
1699
01:09:46,007 --> 01:09:47,095
Fucking studio fees.
1700
01:09:47,183 --> 01:09:49,228
Let me just do what I'm doing.
1701
01:09:49,315 --> 01:09:52,492
Because if they keep
that shit up, man--
1702
01:09:52,579 --> 01:09:54,451
Let's go.
1703
01:09:54,538 --> 01:09:55,800
We out.
1704
01:09:55,887 --> 01:09:58,019
Yeah.
1705
01:09:58,106 --> 01:10:01,240
♪ ♪
1706
01:10:01,327 --> 01:10:03,634
I'm just going to step
back and do what I do.
1707
01:10:03,721 --> 01:10:05,853
Y'all do what y'all do.
Just figure this shit out.
1708
01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:07,768
You know?
1709
01:10:07,855 --> 01:10:11,946
♪ ♪
1710
01:10:12,033 --> 01:10:13,644
If you were in the middle
of making a project,
1711
01:10:13,731 --> 01:10:15,646
and you've been working
on it for a long time,
1712
01:10:15,733 --> 01:10:17,648
you believe you're taking all
the proper measures
1713
01:10:17,735 --> 01:10:19,432
to get it done, I can
certainly understand
1714
01:10:19,519 --> 01:10:22,130
why an article
in "Rolling Stone" stating
1715
01:10:22,218 --> 01:10:24,132
that, in fact, you have done
none of those things
1716
01:10:24,220 --> 01:10:26,091
and the album is unsanctioned
1717
01:10:26,178 --> 01:10:27,614
and doing this
without permission
1718
01:10:27,701 --> 01:10:30,269
would be frustrating,
to say the least.
1719
01:10:32,184 --> 01:10:34,360
I've been coming to Milwaukee
1720
01:10:34,447 --> 01:10:36,232
for a lot of years, right?
1721
01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:37,407
But now I think we're going
to be doing a lot of parties
1722
01:10:37,494 --> 01:10:39,235
together out here
with each other, right?
1723
01:10:39,322 --> 01:10:40,236
[cheering]
1724
01:10:40,323 --> 01:10:41,846
Got to do the intro.
1725
01:10:41,933 --> 01:10:44,501
Definitely warm up your mic.
1726
01:10:44,588 --> 01:10:47,460
I'm gonna position myself
so as soon as it drops,
1727
01:10:47,547 --> 01:10:50,985
I'm walking out.
1728
01:10:51,072 --> 01:10:55,425
But I don't want you to just--
you know, yeah, like--yeah.
1729
01:10:55,512 --> 01:10:58,645
Cool, cool, cool.
This is going to be fun.
1730
01:10:58,732 --> 01:11:01,474
♪ I'm for the hood, yo,
I'm for the struggle beat ♪
1731
01:11:01,561 --> 01:11:03,955
♪ ♪
1732
01:11:04,042 --> 01:11:05,086
- Ready?
- Yes, sir.
1733
01:11:05,173 --> 01:11:06,740
[cheers and applause]
1734
01:11:06,827 --> 01:11:08,438
How many of us
are 35 and older?
1735
01:11:08,525 --> 01:11:11,832
Make some noise.
[cheers and applause]
1736
01:11:11,919 --> 01:11:14,966
How many of us are under 35?
[cheers and applause]
1737
01:11:15,053 --> 01:11:18,491
Okay, okay, welcome, welcome,
motherfuckers, welcome.
1738
01:11:18,578 --> 01:11:20,841
On the ones and twos might
join DJ Strike holding me
1739
01:11:20,928 --> 01:11:23,409
down for a dozen years now.
- What up? What up?
1740
01:11:23,496 --> 01:11:24,976
This is going to be a little
bit different than anything
1741
01:11:25,063 --> 01:11:26,020
you've been to.
1742
01:11:26,107 --> 01:11:28,675
We don't get litty.
1743
01:11:28,762 --> 01:11:30,068
We rock shit.
1744
01:11:30,155 --> 01:11:31,417
So we going to
rock shit tonight.
1745
01:11:31,504 --> 01:11:33,289
We rock shit!
[cheers and applause]
1746
01:11:33,376 --> 01:11:34,855
Can we have some
fun in Milwaukee?
1747
01:11:34,942 --> 01:11:36,640
[cheering]
1748
01:11:36,727 --> 01:11:38,294
Hip-hop is definitely
in the house.
1749
01:11:38,381 --> 01:11:40,078
- Let's go.
- Word.
1750
01:11:40,165 --> 01:11:41,645
And let's get into some shit.
1751
01:11:41,732 --> 01:11:42,907
My name is Dres.
1752
01:11:42,994 --> 01:11:43,908
Y'all know what it is.
1753
01:11:43,995 --> 01:11:47,128
[cheering]
1754
01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:48,913
All right, let's do this.
1755
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,045
[cheering]
1756
01:11:51,132 --> 01:11:53,221
♪ Who's the black sheep?
What's the black sheep? ♪
1757
01:11:53,309 --> 01:11:55,006
♪ Know not who I am... ♪
1758
01:11:55,093 --> 01:11:57,704
[soft music]
1759
01:11:57,791 --> 01:12:01,969
♪ ♪
1760
01:12:02,056 --> 01:12:05,886
Doing shows is me breathing,
being on the road,
1761
01:12:05,973 --> 01:12:07,584
me working, me hustling,
me grabbing
1762
01:12:07,671 --> 01:12:10,543
any mic that had hip-hop
1763
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:12,937
and a paycheck
affiliated with it.
1764
01:12:13,024 --> 01:12:14,373
That's my life.
1765
01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:16,723
If you can.
It goes...
1766
01:12:16,810 --> 01:12:17,724
♪ Engine, engine ♪
1767
01:12:17,811 --> 01:12:19,204
all:
Number 9!
1768
01:12:19,291 --> 01:12:20,901
♪ On the New York ♪
1769
01:12:20,988 --> 01:12:21,859
all:
Transit line!
1770
01:12:21,946 --> 01:12:23,382
I get to rock--
1771
01:12:23,469 --> 01:12:26,298
literally, rock--
audiences globally.
1772
01:12:26,385 --> 01:12:28,039
♪ If my train goes
off the track ♪
1773
01:12:28,126 --> 01:12:30,215
♪ Pick it up, pick it up,
pick it up ♪
1774
01:12:30,302 --> 01:12:33,827
[rapping indistinctly]
1775
01:12:33,914 --> 01:12:35,394
I lived that.
1776
01:12:35,481 --> 01:12:37,831
That's how I paid for DnD.
1777
01:12:37,918 --> 01:12:41,966
And everything aside,
that's beautiful.
1778
01:12:42,053 --> 01:12:49,321
♪ ♪
1779
01:12:49,408 --> 01:12:50,975
Thank you for coming.
1780
01:12:51,062 --> 01:12:52,498
It was a pleasure to hang
out with y'all, no doubt.
1781
01:12:52,585 --> 01:12:53,978
Back at you.
- Appreciate you.
1782
01:12:54,065 --> 01:12:56,067
[speaking indistinctly]
1783
01:12:56,154 --> 01:12:57,416
Now say, yeah.
1784
01:12:57,503 --> 01:12:58,548
all: Yeah!
1785
01:12:58,635 --> 01:13:01,725
That's what I'm
talking about.
1786
01:13:01,812 --> 01:13:03,814
Performing--
1787
01:13:03,901 --> 01:13:07,470
I have those memories of me
and Lawnge.
1788
01:13:07,557 --> 01:13:11,343
One of the biggest secrets
I think I learned from Lawnge
1789
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:14,477
is to just have fun.
1790
01:13:14,564 --> 01:13:16,304
Milwaukee, big up yourselves.
Word up.
1791
01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:17,741
Y'all got it going on.
1792
01:13:17,828 --> 01:13:20,439
Good job. Good job.
You did that shit.
1793
01:13:20,526 --> 01:13:24,182
- I appreciate it.
- All right, now.
1794
01:13:24,269 --> 01:13:27,881
As long as you're having
fun, everyone is enjoying you.
1795
01:13:27,968 --> 01:13:30,362
♪ ♪
1796
01:13:30,449 --> 01:13:31,624
It's that simple.
1797
01:13:31,711 --> 01:13:35,933
♪ ♪
1798
01:13:36,020 --> 01:13:37,456
Whoo.
1799
01:13:37,543 --> 01:13:39,850
[sighs] Did that.
1800
01:13:39,937 --> 01:13:41,199
That's done.
1801
01:13:46,770 --> 01:13:49,120
[indistinct chatter]
1802
01:13:49,207 --> 01:13:52,689
In 3, 2...
1803
01:13:52,776 --> 01:13:55,213
Ah, yo, check it.
This is Dres.
1804
01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:57,607
And this is Mista Lawnge,
the 9.5er.
1805
01:13:57,694 --> 01:13:59,043
Together we make up
this group called what?
1806
01:13:59,130 --> 01:14:00,348
Black Sheep in the house.
1807
01:14:00,436 --> 01:14:03,264
Now we're rocking with who?
1808
01:14:03,351 --> 01:14:05,963
Oh, shit.
[laughter]
1809
01:14:06,050 --> 01:14:09,227
I would love to see
Dres and Lawnge rock.
1810
01:14:09,314 --> 01:14:12,926
But with them not being
together for so long,
1811
01:14:13,013 --> 01:14:14,014
it's tricky, man.
1812
01:14:14,101 --> 01:14:15,755
It's tricky.
1813
01:14:15,842 --> 01:14:17,540
Like, you want to
see Black Sheep,
1814
01:14:17,627 --> 01:14:19,890
you know, this classic
team-up of the two.
1815
01:14:19,977 --> 01:14:21,718
But we're all human beings.
1816
01:14:21,805 --> 01:14:24,111
It isn't easy.
It isn't easy to talk about.
1817
01:14:24,198 --> 01:14:25,722
Yeah, I don't--
1818
01:14:25,809 --> 01:14:27,201
I don't know if that's
going to happen.
1819
01:14:27,288 --> 01:14:29,813
They were separated
so long ago.
1820
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:31,815
And since I've
made it to New York
1821
01:14:31,902 --> 01:14:33,686
and have been around
the scene,
1822
01:14:33,773 --> 01:14:35,993
I've gotten to know Dres over
the years, always seen him.
1823
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,474
I don't recall of any
interaction with Mista Lawnge.
1824
01:14:38,561 --> 01:14:40,519
So I have no idea.
Where is he?
1825
01:14:40,606 --> 01:14:43,043
I don't know that they're
beefing or whatever.
1826
01:14:43,130 --> 01:14:44,697
Is he going to be in the film?
1827
01:14:44,784 --> 01:14:49,267
[laughing]
1828
01:14:49,354 --> 01:14:51,530
Fat chance.
Fat chance.
1829
01:14:51,617 --> 01:14:53,489
I'm saying, a
good documentary
1830
01:14:53,576 --> 01:14:55,360
got to get to the bottom
of what the fuck happened.
1831
01:14:55,447 --> 01:14:58,363
Well, first of all,
where the fuck is he?
1832
01:14:58,450 --> 01:15:02,889
I have no idea--
no clue, none at all.
1833
01:15:02,976 --> 01:15:05,544
Like, yo, the nigga just
disappeared off the Earth.
1834
01:15:05,631 --> 01:15:09,069
Like, I heard he's in Florida.
1835
01:15:09,156 --> 01:15:10,984
I don't know how valid that is.
1836
01:15:11,071 --> 01:15:13,160
Last time I heard, I think
he's in North Carolina maybe.
1837
01:15:13,247 --> 01:15:15,206
I don't know.
- [laughs]
1838
01:15:15,293 --> 01:15:16,294
That's interesting.
1839
01:15:16,381 --> 01:15:17,513
No, where is he?
1840
01:15:26,130 --> 01:15:29,307
[water lapping softly]
1841
01:15:29,394 --> 01:15:32,092
In history,
1842
01:15:32,179 --> 01:15:35,182
it's always,
what happened to that guy?
1843
01:15:35,269 --> 01:15:37,968
You see this guy. What
happened to the other guy?
1844
01:15:38,055 --> 01:15:39,796
We know it's two.
1845
01:15:39,883 --> 01:15:42,581
You dig a little harder,
and you dig a little harder,
1846
01:15:42,668 --> 01:15:44,801
and you dig a little harder.
1847
01:15:44,888 --> 01:15:48,152
But sometimes when
you find that answer,
1848
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:52,112
it does nothing because
it may be by design.
1849
01:15:52,199 --> 01:15:54,288
It may be a plan.
Who knows?
1850
01:15:54,375 --> 01:15:57,596
♪ ♪
1851
01:15:57,683 --> 01:16:01,339
Deep down, I'll always be
Mista Lawnge from Black Sheep.
1852
01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:06,300
But today I'm just dad.
1853
01:16:06,387 --> 01:16:08,259
No, you stop.
You stop bugging.
1854
01:16:08,346 --> 01:16:10,261
No, I'm sorry.
1855
01:16:10,348 --> 01:16:14,047
A lot of stuff is a blur to
me because it happened fast.
1856
01:16:14,134 --> 01:16:16,049
They just wanted to hear
what we're capable of.
1857
01:16:16,136 --> 01:16:18,617
And then they gave us
a demo budget to do
1858
01:16:18,704 --> 01:16:22,316
a real demo, you know,
in a real studio.
1859
01:16:22,403 --> 01:16:25,711
I love hip-hop, and
I love the music.
1860
01:16:25,798 --> 01:16:28,801
But I don't love
what it comes with.
1861
01:16:28,888 --> 01:16:30,150
I mean, you
guys are so young.
1862
01:16:30,237 --> 01:16:32,631
It doesn't matter
what your age is.
1863
01:16:32,718 --> 01:16:34,938
You're letting people know us.
1864
01:16:35,025 --> 01:16:37,636
I'm 19 years old
at the time,
1865
01:16:37,723 --> 01:16:39,943
fresh out of high school.
1866
01:16:40,030 --> 01:16:41,597
Here, go get on that stage.
1867
01:16:41,684 --> 01:16:43,555
Here, you're
in front of stars.
1868
01:16:43,642 --> 01:16:45,383
You're shaking hands
with A-listers.
1869
01:16:45,470 --> 01:16:49,605
You're, you know, teens
making these big, mega hits.
1870
01:16:49,692 --> 01:16:53,043
When you have that success,
1871
01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:55,132
you have to maintain
that success.
1872
01:16:55,219 --> 01:16:56,524
The choice is yours.
1873
01:16:56,612 --> 01:16:57,917
You can get with this,
or you do that.
1874
01:16:58,004 --> 01:16:59,353
And that's what
they want to see.
1875
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:00,441
That's what they want to see.
1876
01:17:00,528 --> 01:17:02,879
And it was overwhelming.
1877
01:17:04,707 --> 01:17:08,449
That's what I hate
about the music industry
1878
01:17:08,536 --> 01:17:10,321
and success--
1879
01:17:10,408 --> 01:17:12,279
people's anticipation.
1880
01:17:12,366 --> 01:17:15,587
You get kind of a anxiety.
1881
01:17:15,674 --> 01:17:17,981
I'm not doing it
for the love, anymore.
1882
01:17:18,068 --> 01:17:20,592
I'm doing it for
their expectation.
1883
01:17:20,679 --> 01:17:22,159
How many people who grew up
in hip-hop?
1884
01:17:22,246 --> 01:17:23,943
Make some noise
if you grew up in hip-hop.
1885
01:17:24,030 --> 01:17:25,771
[cheering]
1886
01:17:25,858 --> 01:17:28,252
Hip-hop cannibalizes
itself so much
1887
01:17:28,339 --> 01:17:30,733
that they're always
looking for the next new.
1888
01:17:30,820 --> 01:17:32,865
Look at this.
Forget that.
1889
01:17:32,952 --> 01:17:34,562
That's old.
1890
01:17:34,650 --> 01:17:37,130
Hip-hop is the only genre
that that happens in.
1891
01:17:37,217 --> 01:17:41,787
That took away the love
for what I was doing.
1892
01:17:41,874 --> 01:17:43,310
So I just left.
1893
01:17:43,397 --> 01:17:45,704
♪ ♪
1894
01:17:45,791 --> 01:17:47,445
That was it. Yeah.
1895
01:17:47,532 --> 01:17:50,448
[car horns honking]
1896
01:17:50,535 --> 01:17:53,103
I'm the Naked Cowboy.
[guitar playing]
1897
01:17:53,190 --> 01:17:56,106
Ladies, take a picture
with you, ladies, come on.
1898
01:17:56,193 --> 01:17:58,151
♪ I'm the Naked Cowboy ♪
1899
01:17:58,238 --> 01:18:00,806
♪ ♪
1900
01:18:00,893 --> 01:18:03,591
[water running]
1901
01:18:06,507 --> 01:18:09,859
You think about where
you are in life, your age,
1902
01:18:09,946 --> 01:18:12,644
you know, and you think about
people that you know and love,
1903
01:18:12,731 --> 01:18:15,299
the time that passes...
1904
01:18:17,867 --> 01:18:19,216
See, I got on fresh paint.
1905
01:18:19,303 --> 01:18:21,653
This is fresh paint,
so you do it naturally,
1906
01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:24,569
so it's not super gray.
1907
01:18:24,656 --> 01:18:28,051
So you can always see the older
rappers with freshly painted,
1908
01:18:28,138 --> 01:18:30,793
but right underneath
is gray, a lot of gray--
1909
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,316
the new growth.
[chuckles]
1910
01:18:32,403 --> 01:18:34,448
Hey, it is what it is, man.
1911
01:18:34,535 --> 01:18:38,409
♪ ♪
1912
01:18:38,496 --> 01:18:42,630
Coming back to New York
is very nostalgic,
1913
01:18:42,718 --> 01:18:45,329
and it is motivation.
1914
01:18:45,416 --> 01:18:48,158
It really throws me
right back into the space
1915
01:18:48,245 --> 01:18:51,291
that I was in with club life
and Dres
1916
01:18:51,378 --> 01:18:54,599
and being around
the music industry.
1917
01:18:54,686 --> 01:18:56,470
What led up to the success
of Black Sheep
1918
01:18:56,557 --> 01:18:59,647
was what was fun for me.
1919
01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:03,173
That is the part that I try
to hold on to the most.
1920
01:19:03,260 --> 01:19:06,393
It's been,
like, 20-plus years.
1921
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,353
I'm hoping to really
get that energy back.
1922
01:19:12,748 --> 01:19:16,490
You know, for me, when it
comes to Black Sheep and Dres,
1923
01:19:16,577 --> 01:19:18,536
no, never say never.
1924
01:19:20,668 --> 01:19:27,501
♪ ♪
1925
01:19:37,294 --> 01:19:39,687
Yo.
1926
01:19:39,775 --> 01:19:41,341
[chuckles]
- What's going on, B?
1927
01:19:41,428 --> 01:19:43,561
- How you doing, man?
- Good to see you, brother.
1928
01:19:43,648 --> 01:19:45,781
- Good to see you, too, man.
- Word up.
1929
01:19:45,868 --> 01:19:47,913
Say hello to somebodies.
- What up, world?
1930
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,307
It's Mista Lawnge
from Black Sheep.
1931
01:19:50,394 --> 01:19:52,004
This is my brother
right here, y'all.
1932
01:19:52,091 --> 01:19:53,527
It's been a long time since
y'all got this picture.
1933
01:19:53,614 --> 01:19:55,225
I better freeze-frame that one.
1934
01:19:55,312 --> 01:19:56,922
Word up.
- Stay tuned.
1935
01:19:57,009 --> 01:19:58,141
All right, for real,
stay tuned.
1936
01:19:58,228 --> 01:19:59,620
Much love.
1937
01:19:59,707 --> 01:20:00,621
I'll catch y'all.
1938
01:20:00,708 --> 01:20:07,585
♪ ♪
1939
01:20:21,468 --> 01:20:24,254
Where we're headed was
one of the top shows
1940
01:20:24,341 --> 01:20:27,300
ever in my life--
the Apollo Theater.
1941
01:20:27,387 --> 01:20:30,260
[cheers and applause]
1942
01:20:30,347 --> 01:20:33,045
The balcony was literally
shaking up and down.
1943
01:20:33,132 --> 01:20:34,655
Didn't we have to tell
people to stop jumping
1944
01:20:34,742 --> 01:20:36,483
because the shit was--
1945
01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:38,268
Yeah, like, we really thought
that shit was going to break.
1946
01:20:38,355 --> 01:20:39,791
Uh-huh. It's like, okay,
now we're home.
1947
01:20:39,878 --> 01:20:42,533
Yep.
1948
01:20:42,620 --> 01:20:43,969
Wow.
1949
01:20:44,056 --> 01:20:47,190
Black Sheep--it's been years.
It's been years.
1950
01:20:47,277 --> 01:20:48,844
Oh, my gosh.
1951
01:20:48,931 --> 01:20:50,062
Legends.
1952
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:51,237
What's up?
1953
01:20:51,324 --> 01:20:52,978
How are you, man?
- Long, long time.
1954
01:20:53,065 --> 01:20:54,719
Yeah, right.
How's everything?
1955
01:20:54,806 --> 01:20:57,200
If you embrace Harlem, Harlem
embraces you right back.
1956
01:20:57,287 --> 01:20:58,766
Good to see you, man.
1957
01:20:58,854 --> 01:21:00,420
This is our stomping grounds.
1958
01:21:00,507 --> 01:21:02,379
We'd meet in front
of the Apollo.
1959
01:21:02,466 --> 01:21:03,902
Yep.
1960
01:21:03,989 --> 01:21:06,209
Upstairs was a studio
at the time.
1961
01:21:06,296 --> 01:21:07,514
We mixed
"Wolf in Sheep's Clothing"
1962
01:21:07,601 --> 01:21:08,864
right in here.
1963
01:21:08,951 --> 01:21:11,083
So being here
is very inspiring.
1964
01:21:11,170 --> 01:21:12,519
That's real.
1965
01:21:12,606 --> 01:21:14,043
And it also puts
you in touch with--
1966
01:21:14,130 --> 01:21:16,915
Like, this is who
we do this shit for.
1967
01:21:17,002 --> 01:21:18,264
Y'all amazing.
1968
01:21:18,351 --> 01:21:19,918
Harlem gives that
right back.
1969
01:21:20,005 --> 01:21:21,572
I respect what you're
doing with the tribute.
1970
01:21:21,659 --> 01:21:22,747
Oh, I appreciate that, man.
1971
01:21:22,834 --> 01:21:24,749
This is coming home.
1972
01:21:24,836 --> 01:21:27,404
The world-famous
Apollo Theater...
1973
01:21:27,491 --> 01:21:31,060
The Apollo Theater--first
of all, it was sold out...
1974
01:21:31,147 --> 01:21:33,018
- Yeah.
- Standing room only.
1975
01:21:33,105 --> 01:21:35,064
It was tense.
It was anxiety.
1976
01:21:35,151 --> 01:21:38,328
It's like that
before any big show.
1977
01:21:38,415 --> 01:21:41,853
I remember after that show
us walking down
1978
01:21:41,940 --> 01:21:44,595
125th Street this way...
[car horn honks]
1979
01:21:44,682 --> 01:21:47,424
And every car going by
was just honking at us.
1980
01:21:47,511 --> 01:21:50,731
[echoing]
It was like, y'all did it.
1981
01:21:50,818 --> 01:21:54,083
And we just walking, just
floating down 125th Street,
1982
01:21:54,170 --> 01:21:57,173
just feeling like I wasn't
touching the ground.
1983
01:21:57,260 --> 01:21:59,175
The stage has been graced by
such artists
1984
01:21:59,262 --> 01:22:01,786
as Sammy Davis Jr.,
Count Basie...
1985
01:22:01,873 --> 01:22:03,092
Ella Fitzgerald.
1986
01:22:03,179 --> 01:22:04,615
It's a tradition
of Black music.
1987
01:22:04,702 --> 01:22:07,226
For us, that was
real important.
1988
01:22:07,313 --> 01:22:10,447
And then us doing stuff
like late-night television--
1989
01:22:10,534 --> 01:22:13,667
every audience--we were always
having to prove ourselves.
1990
01:22:13,754 --> 01:22:16,148
It's Arsenio Hall!
1991
01:22:16,235 --> 01:22:18,759
- Time we did Arsenio...
- I got something for y'all.
1992
01:22:18,846 --> 01:22:20,326
Oh, we got a great
show for you.
1993
01:22:20,413 --> 01:22:22,111
I want to do
some different shit.
1994
01:22:22,198 --> 01:22:25,679
So I was like, listen, we
perform from the audience.
1995
01:22:25,766 --> 01:22:28,726
♪ We're the Black Sheep ♪
1996
01:22:28,813 --> 01:22:31,816
Arsenio was like, you
got to talk to my producer
1997
01:22:31,903 --> 01:22:33,513
about that shit.
- [laughs]
1998
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:34,993
So he took me
to the producer.
1999
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:36,995
♪ ♪
2000
01:22:37,082 --> 01:22:40,956
He was like, okay, so
let's just try it.
2001
01:22:41,043 --> 01:22:44,481
And the shit popped off.
- Yeah, it was crazy.
2002
01:22:44,568 --> 01:22:46,352
It was crazy.
2003
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,006
[cheers and applause]
2004
01:22:48,093 --> 01:22:50,661
So that became a format
for them to do that.
2005
01:22:50,748 --> 01:22:52,315
Are we ready?
2006
01:22:52,402 --> 01:22:54,360
Here's Jay Leno!
2007
01:22:54,447 --> 01:22:56,232
And then Leno--
2008
01:22:56,319 --> 01:22:57,885
Ladies and gentlemen!
2009
01:22:57,973 --> 01:23:00,845
♪ Everybody say scream ♪
[cheers and applause]
2010
01:23:00,932 --> 01:23:04,892
That was tremendous
for the culture.
2011
01:23:04,980 --> 01:23:06,982
That was the beginnings
2012
01:23:07,069 --> 01:23:09,810
of putting hip-hop
in Middle America.
2013
01:23:11,638 --> 01:23:15,077
Being in New York,
reconnecting with Dres,
2014
01:23:15,164 --> 01:23:17,340
filming this documentary--
2015
01:23:17,427 --> 01:23:20,560
it's kind of, like,
intense for me.
2016
01:23:20,647 --> 01:23:22,562
You know, just in my own head,
2017
01:23:22,649 --> 01:23:24,260
it's kind of
"Twilight Zone"-ish.
2018
01:23:24,347 --> 01:23:26,044
When we lived
here, like, nobody
2019
01:23:26,131 --> 01:23:28,481
really knew we lived here.
2020
01:23:28,568 --> 01:23:32,659
And the engine of
my mind starting up,
2021
01:23:32,746 --> 01:23:34,226
putting everything together,
2022
01:23:34,313 --> 01:23:39,144
but, you know, I'm just
looking for inspiration.
2023
01:23:39,231 --> 01:23:41,625
If the right thing
comes about,
2024
01:23:41,712 --> 01:23:44,106
you never know
what's going to happen.
2025
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:51,287
Mista Lawnge, Dres,
Black Sheep, slam now.
2026
01:23:51,374 --> 01:23:53,245
My man.
- Good to see you.
2027
01:23:53,332 --> 01:23:54,681
Oh, my gosh.
2028
01:23:54,768 --> 01:23:56,553
I ain't seen you
in forever, man.
2029
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,598
What's up with you?
You got a beard on me now.
2030
01:23:58,685 --> 01:24:00,035
[laughter]
2031
01:24:00,122 --> 01:24:02,211
Mista Lawnge got
a beard on me, D.
2032
01:24:02,298 --> 01:24:05,083
It's painted.
[laughter]
2033
01:24:05,170 --> 01:24:06,171
Ah, shit.
2034
01:24:06,258 --> 01:24:07,564
This is my code D
right here, man.
2035
01:24:07,651 --> 01:24:09,435
- No doubt, no doubt.
- That's what's up.
2036
01:24:09,522 --> 01:24:11,307
So we're putting the
band back together.
2037
01:24:11,394 --> 01:24:13,439
Very, very possible, man.
That's what we looking at, man.
2038
01:24:13,526 --> 01:24:15,659
We going to be like--
- I still got it.
2039
01:24:15,746 --> 01:24:17,356
[laughter]
2040
01:24:17,443 --> 01:24:19,445
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, man.
2041
01:24:19,532 --> 01:24:20,620
For real, for real.
2042
01:24:20,707 --> 01:24:22,796
How are you feeling about--
2043
01:24:22,883 --> 01:24:24,189
You got something
written, though?
2044
01:24:24,276 --> 01:24:25,625
Shit.
I could play with that one.
2045
01:24:25,712 --> 01:24:27,714
[rhythmic beats playing]
2046
01:24:27,801 --> 01:24:32,458
This is Dilla, you know,
from the DnD project.
2047
01:24:32,545 --> 01:24:34,895
You want to jump in?
You want me to set it?
2048
01:24:34,982 --> 01:24:36,636
It don't matter to me.
2049
01:24:36,723 --> 01:24:38,290
Yeah, I'll jump in,
while shit is in my head.
2050
01:24:38,377 --> 01:24:39,639
All right.
2051
01:24:42,816 --> 01:24:44,557
While I was on the plane,
I was in my own head
2052
01:24:44,644 --> 01:24:47,125
about what we were
going to be doing.
2053
01:24:47,212 --> 01:24:51,521
I really had no expectations.
2054
01:24:51,608 --> 01:24:55,002
[whispering indistinctly
to self]
2055
01:24:55,090 --> 01:24:58,005
Concepts start flying
from what I see,
2056
01:24:58,093 --> 01:25:00,007
you know, regular life.
2057
01:25:00,095 --> 01:25:03,185
The way things happen...
2058
01:25:03,272 --> 01:25:05,491
people.
2059
01:25:05,578 --> 01:25:07,537
And I'll automatically
go into writing.
2060
01:25:07,624 --> 01:25:10,279
Mista Lawnge verse--we
haven't heard in a minute.
2061
01:25:10,366 --> 01:25:11,976
That's what's up.
2062
01:25:12,063 --> 01:25:14,109
Mista Lawnge
from Black Sheep...
2063
01:25:14,196 --> 01:25:15,762
I'm gonna just run through
it a couple of times
2064
01:25:15,849 --> 01:25:17,764
until I learn this shit.
2065
01:25:17,851 --> 01:25:19,288
Y'all need the beat?
2066
01:25:19,375 --> 01:25:21,551
Nah, this for the DnD.
This is a Dilla shit.
2067
01:25:21,638 --> 01:25:23,292
Oh, oh, Dilla drop.
Oh, okay. That's right.
2068
01:25:23,379 --> 01:25:25,076
Get him on this
project, you know?
2069
01:25:25,163 --> 01:25:26,686
- Yeah, yeah.
- That'd be crazy.
2070
01:25:26,773 --> 01:25:28,340
Let's do it again.
2071
01:25:28,427 --> 01:25:31,213
We got the energy.
- Mm-hmm.
2072
01:25:31,300 --> 01:25:33,606
I mean, with the wild
success of Black Sheep,
2073
01:25:33,693 --> 01:25:35,217
I still look back.
2074
01:25:35,304 --> 01:25:37,523
That wasn't the best part.
2075
01:25:37,610 --> 01:25:39,656
The best part was
that growing--
2076
01:25:39,743 --> 01:25:43,399
you know, just brothers
making music,
2077
01:25:43,486 --> 01:25:45,227
doing what we love.
2078
01:25:45,314 --> 01:25:48,969
We navigated, and we
found our way to here, man.
2079
01:25:49,056 --> 01:25:51,407
I'm proud of us for that.
2080
01:25:51,494 --> 01:25:54,061
We learned
from our mistakes.
2081
01:25:54,149 --> 01:25:56,716
Continuation.
- You know what I'm saying?
2082
01:25:56,803 --> 01:25:59,719
What it could've been,
what it should've been.
2083
01:25:59,806 --> 01:26:02,809
Everything happens
for a reason.
2084
01:26:02,896 --> 01:26:04,463
Let's do it.
2085
01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:07,684
So let's do some
shit together.
2086
01:26:07,771 --> 01:26:10,513
♪ Yo, Mista Lawnge
is the K-E-Y ♪
2087
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,341
♪ And some of y'all are
going to say he lie ♪
2088
01:26:12,428 --> 01:26:14,778
♪ So, listen, maybe
I need to spit that truth ♪
2089
01:26:14,865 --> 01:26:16,388
♪ When I hit that booth ♪
2090
01:26:16,475 --> 01:26:18,085
♪ Then y'all
sleeping-ass skeptics ♪
2091
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:19,565
♪ Could get that proof ♪
2092
01:26:19,652 --> 01:26:21,828
♪ It's undeniable,
me, I'm so reliable ♪
2093
01:26:21,915 --> 01:26:24,962
♪ But a lot of rappers' success
is really unjustifiable... ♪
2094
01:26:25,049 --> 01:26:27,921
[train rumbling softly]
2095
01:26:28,008 --> 01:26:29,662
[tone beeps]
2096
01:26:29,749 --> 01:26:31,534
Ladies and gentlemen,
at this time,
2097
01:26:31,621 --> 01:26:33,971
we're approaching our
next station stop.
2098
01:26:34,058 --> 01:26:36,191
[line trilling]
2099
01:26:36,278 --> 01:26:38,410
Hey, Dres.
Ma Dukes here.
2100
01:26:38,497 --> 01:26:39,933
What up, doe?
2101
01:26:40,020 --> 01:26:41,935
I thought I need to call you.
2102
01:26:42,022 --> 01:26:46,375
After all the rhetoric and
misconceptions about things,
2103
01:26:46,462 --> 01:26:48,594
I really think we
should get together
2104
01:26:48,681 --> 01:26:50,944
and, you know
like, have a chat,
2105
01:26:51,031 --> 01:26:53,904
kind of explain to each other
what the heck's going on,
2106
01:26:53,991 --> 01:26:57,037
you know, sit down--
you, me, and Toney,
2107
01:26:57,124 --> 01:26:59,388
if that's okay with you.
2108
01:26:59,475 --> 01:27:00,476
I don't know what
your schedule is,
2109
01:27:00,563 --> 01:27:04,958
but we'll be
in D.C. Wednesday.
2110
01:27:05,045 --> 01:27:07,744
So try to hit me back.
2111
01:27:07,831 --> 01:27:11,443
If I have to extend it a day,
I will, but let me know, okay?
2112
01:27:11,530 --> 01:27:14,925
Reach me back at 313 number
or either of the 323s.
2113
01:27:15,012 --> 01:27:16,405
Both of them I'll have on.
2114
01:27:16,492 --> 01:27:17,797
One love.
2115
01:27:18,885 --> 01:27:20,191
[tone beeps]
2116
01:27:20,278 --> 01:27:21,758
Ladies and gentlemen,
at this time,
2117
01:27:21,845 --> 01:27:23,977
we are approaching
our final destination,
2118
01:27:24,064 --> 01:27:26,284
Washington, D.C., station.
2119
01:27:26,371 --> 01:27:27,981
At this time, we ask you...
2120
01:27:28,068 --> 01:27:30,506
I haven't seen Ma since
we were in Puerto Rico.
2121
01:27:30,593 --> 01:27:32,595
As far as this project
itself, you know,
2122
01:27:32,682 --> 01:27:35,293
I've had to deal
with a lot of doubt.
2123
01:27:35,380 --> 01:27:38,601
Washington, DC,
final station.
2124
01:27:38,688 --> 01:27:40,342
We're going through
a cloudy situation.
2125
01:27:40,429 --> 01:27:41,691
You know what I'm saying?
2126
01:27:41,778 --> 01:27:43,867
And it's not for me to
move on and just think
2127
01:27:43,954 --> 01:27:45,521
that it's going to be okay.
2128
01:27:45,608 --> 01:27:47,392
That's not how
it's going to work.
2129
01:27:49,394 --> 01:27:50,613
So whatever is in question,
2130
01:27:50,700 --> 01:27:53,529
I'd like to address now
face-to-face
2131
01:27:53,616 --> 01:27:56,488
so that there isn't
any misunderstandings.
2132
01:27:59,317 --> 01:28:00,840
What up?
2133
01:28:03,147 --> 01:28:04,496
How are you?
2134
01:28:04,583 --> 01:28:05,497
- Good to see you, man.
- No doubt.
2135
01:28:05,584 --> 01:28:07,020
No doubt.
- Good to see you, too.
2136
01:28:07,107 --> 01:28:08,413
No doubt, no doubt.
Hey, Ma.
2137
01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:09,327
- What up, doe?
- Ah, here you go.
2138
01:28:09,414 --> 01:28:11,111
This is for you.
- Oh, my God.
2139
01:28:11,198 --> 01:28:12,156
Thank you.
- And it's good to see you.
2140
01:28:12,243 --> 01:28:13,679
Good to see you, too.
2141
01:28:13,766 --> 01:28:16,334
Get all that baggage
off your back and enjoy.
2142
01:28:16,421 --> 01:28:17,596
It's so good to see you.
That's what's up.
2143
01:28:17,683 --> 01:28:19,424
Thank you.
You know I like gifts.
2144
01:28:19,511 --> 01:28:20,730
- It's been too long.
- Yes.
2145
01:28:20,817 --> 01:28:22,253
- Have a seat right here?
- All right.
2146
01:28:22,340 --> 01:28:23,646
What's up now?
How y'all doing?
2147
01:28:23,733 --> 01:28:25,735
Pretty good.
It's been a good day.
2148
01:28:25,822 --> 01:28:27,127
Weather is not bad.
- Yeah, right?
2149
01:28:27,214 --> 01:28:28,564
Right?
- Yeah.
2150
01:28:28,651 --> 01:28:30,479
It turned out pretty
decent out there.
2151
01:28:30,566 --> 01:28:32,481
It was a little overcast
when I left New York,
2152
01:28:32,568 --> 01:28:33,612
but it's nice out here.
- Oh, yes.
2153
01:28:33,699 --> 01:28:35,048
Yeah, it's been
quite the walk.
2154
01:28:35,135 --> 01:28:37,050
It's been quite the walk.
2155
01:28:37,137 --> 01:28:38,748
Yeah.
Yeah, we're here, though.
2156
01:28:38,835 --> 01:28:40,793
- Yes.
- Yeah, you know?
2157
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,710
I really wanted to say
that, you know, like, this...
2158
01:28:44,797 --> 01:28:47,670
Like, I just really
trusted who we were.
2159
01:28:47,757 --> 01:28:49,541
Like, you know,
like, what happened?
2160
01:28:49,628 --> 01:28:51,021
Like, what--
2161
01:28:51,108 --> 01:28:53,719
There are numerous
people doing Dilla music--
2162
01:28:53,806 --> 01:28:58,550
not permitted, just
willy-nilly doing whatever.
2163
01:28:58,637 --> 01:29:00,683
It's a known fact that
he's one of the most
2164
01:29:00,770 --> 01:29:03,294
bootlegged artists ever.
2165
01:29:03,381 --> 01:29:06,079
And...
2166
01:29:06,166 --> 01:29:11,128
as far as music,
for this project...
2167
01:29:11,215 --> 01:29:13,957
I'm saying it from me to the
ears of those that will listen
2168
01:29:14,044 --> 01:29:16,046
with my own face and mouth.
2169
01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:18,004
This was something that I've
been very excited about.
2170
01:29:18,091 --> 01:29:20,006
Thank you.
2171
01:29:20,093 --> 01:29:23,183
This article has brought
a lot of attention
2172
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:25,229
to a lot of people.
2173
01:29:25,316 --> 01:29:27,362
- I know who I'm talking to.
- Mm-hmm.
2174
01:29:27,449 --> 01:29:29,059
- And I know what I'm hearing.
- Yeah.
2175
01:29:29,146 --> 01:29:30,190
These are
two different things.
2176
01:29:30,277 --> 01:29:31,757
Like, what happened?
2177
01:29:31,844 --> 01:29:34,325
This doesn't even sound
remotely like--
2178
01:29:34,412 --> 01:29:36,283
you know what I'm saying--
like us.
2179
01:29:36,371 --> 01:29:39,156
That was a messy interview.
2180
01:29:39,243 --> 01:29:40,592
That wasn't my quote.
2181
01:29:40,679 --> 01:29:42,377
I was confused.
- Like, it's almost--
2182
01:29:42,464 --> 01:29:44,291
- So I just don't know.
- Yeah, like, why--
2183
01:29:44,379 --> 01:29:46,511
why even write this interview?
2184
01:29:46,598 --> 01:29:49,732
You just was unsure if you
wanted to have this happen?
2185
01:29:49,819 --> 01:29:51,386
No.
2186
01:29:51,473 --> 01:29:52,909
Toney, did you--when
you came to kitchen,
2187
01:29:52,996 --> 01:29:54,911
you said, did you see this?
2188
01:29:54,998 --> 01:29:58,001
I couldn't believe
that "Rolling Stone" article,
2189
01:29:58,088 --> 01:30:02,484
using those particular words,
misquoting my wife.
2190
01:30:02,571 --> 01:30:04,834
It's like, oh, my God, yo.
2191
01:30:04,921 --> 01:30:06,401
How?
- I don't know.
2192
01:30:06,488 --> 01:30:07,663
How?
2193
01:30:07,750 --> 01:30:10,187
That's when I knew
for a fact that--
2194
01:30:10,274 --> 01:30:12,494
- Something was very wrong.
- Something was very wrong.
2195
01:30:12,581 --> 01:30:14,147
Even some of the wording
in it was kind of, like--
2196
01:30:14,234 --> 01:30:15,845
It was, like, crazy.
2197
01:30:15,932 --> 01:30:17,063
Oh, right, right,
right, right.
2198
01:30:17,150 --> 01:30:19,805
And it didn't make sense,
and it was too much
2199
01:30:19,892 --> 01:30:22,373
that I didn't know about
that was being said.
2200
01:30:22,460 --> 01:30:25,289
I endorsed this project
in the beginning.
2201
01:30:25,376 --> 01:30:27,334
I've been so excited about it.
2202
01:30:27,422 --> 01:30:31,687
And the sheer fact that the
idea happened in my own home
2203
01:30:31,774 --> 01:30:34,603
in Puerto Rico, okay,
three years ago,
2204
01:30:34,690 --> 01:30:36,169
so they don't have
to worry about--
2205
01:30:36,256 --> 01:30:37,780
Nobody has to put
an article up.
2206
01:30:37,867 --> 01:30:40,478
Yo, we here.
This is what's important.
2207
01:30:40,565 --> 01:30:41,871
You know,
we withstood the storm.
2208
01:30:41,958 --> 01:30:43,133
Right.
2209
01:30:43,220 --> 01:30:44,656
And we didn't know
it was coming.
2210
01:30:44,743 --> 01:30:46,223
- Right, right. Real talk.
- We go, oh, you know.
2211
01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:47,442
- On so many fronts.
- And that's life.
2212
01:30:47,529 --> 01:30:49,139
Yeah.
2213
01:30:49,226 --> 01:30:51,228
That's the real thing, and
that's what makes us strong.
2214
01:30:51,315 --> 01:30:52,795
And you want to
know, like, you know,
2215
01:30:52,882 --> 01:30:54,361
that your relationships
can survive that.
2216
01:30:54,449 --> 01:30:56,189
And that's what it is.
2217
01:30:56,276 --> 01:30:57,887
Let's rise together.
- Yeah, no doubt.
2218
01:30:57,974 --> 01:31:01,107
- That's what it is.
- Thank you, sincerely.
2219
01:31:01,194 --> 01:31:03,109
You still and always did have
my blessing.
2220
01:31:03,196 --> 01:31:05,155
Thank you.
2221
01:31:05,242 --> 01:31:06,983
That was real.
2222
01:31:07,070 --> 01:31:08,201
It is real.
2223
01:31:08,288 --> 01:31:11,683
♪ ♪
2224
01:31:11,770 --> 01:31:13,380
Anytime I can get
a chance to see Ma,
2225
01:31:13,468 --> 01:31:16,949
it's, like, this just really
parental type of feeling
2226
01:31:17,036 --> 01:31:18,995
that I get in her presence.
2227
01:31:19,082 --> 01:31:22,389
I think about the very humble
beginnings of us
2228
01:31:22,477 --> 01:31:26,132
just meeting by chance
2229
01:31:26,219 --> 01:31:28,221
and all that it's become,
2230
01:31:28,308 --> 01:31:30,572
you know, from the pandemic,
2231
01:31:30,659 --> 01:31:33,270
to the trials and tribulations
of creation,
2232
01:31:33,357 --> 01:31:37,361
to, you know, real life
taking place in the interim.
2233
01:31:37,448 --> 01:31:40,277
It's been a learning
experience within itself.
2234
01:31:40,364 --> 01:31:43,323
More than anything, I think
it's invigorated in me
2235
01:31:43,410 --> 01:31:44,716
to definitely make sure that
2236
01:31:44,803 --> 01:31:47,893
my estate and my affairs
are situated.
2237
01:31:47,980 --> 01:31:51,027
Publishing and the music
that I have done
2238
01:31:51,114 --> 01:31:52,507
are going to my children
2239
01:31:52,594 --> 01:31:56,423
to help them
move forward in life.
2240
01:31:56,511 --> 01:32:00,297
It also put the desire in me
to leave something, you know,
2241
01:32:00,384 --> 01:32:02,604
so I'm very grateful for that.
2242
01:32:06,172 --> 01:32:09,828
What the world is seeing
you do for your son
2243
01:32:09,915 --> 01:32:12,048
says it all,
as far as who you are
2244
01:32:12,135 --> 01:32:14,093
and the mother that you are
to this world.
2245
01:32:14,180 --> 01:32:15,921
- Wow. Thank you for that.
- Like, for real, for real.
2246
01:32:16,008 --> 01:32:17,749
Dilla was my whole world.
2247
01:32:17,836 --> 01:32:21,100
Some parents don't even know
that their children were
2248
01:32:21,187 --> 01:32:23,450
talented or creative.
- Right.
2249
01:32:23,538 --> 01:32:24,713
But you got to nourish
that talent
2250
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,802
to make the world better
for young people.
2251
01:32:26,889 --> 01:32:27,759
Especially
VH1 Save The Music.
2252
01:32:27,846 --> 01:32:29,021
- Yeah.
- You know what I'm saying?
2253
01:32:29,108 --> 01:32:30,066
Oh, that's what's up.
2254
01:32:30,153 --> 01:32:32,155
Yeah, that's--that's my baby.
2255
01:32:32,242 --> 01:32:33,591
I mean, that's why--
how many schools we are now?
2256
01:32:33,678 --> 01:32:36,289
Oh, my God.
We have 40 schools in.
2257
01:32:36,376 --> 01:32:37,682
That's what's up.
2258
01:32:37,769 --> 01:32:39,554
And just for
your own benefit,
2259
01:32:39,641 --> 01:32:43,819
visit any one of
the J Dilla Tech Grant schools
2260
01:32:43,906 --> 01:32:47,387
to see that
growth is happening,
2261
01:32:47,474 --> 01:32:48,954
and children have
more resources.
2262
01:32:49,041 --> 01:32:53,045
And it keeps introducing
who he is to them.
2263
01:32:53,132 --> 01:32:55,047
- Yes, it does.
- You know what I'm saying?
2264
01:32:55,134 --> 01:32:56,745
Like, they're gonna grow up
knowing, like you know,
2265
01:32:56,832 --> 01:32:58,790
Dilla, that means something.
2266
01:32:58,877 --> 01:33:01,793
That name means something.
That name helped me.
2267
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,055
- How are you?
- I'm good. How are you?
2268
01:33:03,142 --> 01:33:04,709
Hello.
2269
01:33:04,796 --> 01:33:07,016
- Can you hold on?
- Sure.
2270
01:33:07,103 --> 01:33:10,019
[hip hop music playing]
- Hey, yo, yo, yo, guys, guys.
2271
01:33:10,106 --> 01:33:12,499
Turn off the speaker and
let's get something recording.
2272
01:33:12,587 --> 01:33:14,197
Let's not vibe right now, okay?
2273
01:33:14,284 --> 01:33:17,330
So Za's gonna record,
bring up a--bring up a thing.
2274
01:33:17,417 --> 01:33:20,159
Save The Music's mission
is helping students,
2275
01:33:20,246 --> 01:33:22,509
schools, and communities
reach their full potential
2276
01:33:22,597 --> 01:33:24,381
through making music.
2277
01:33:24,468 --> 01:33:27,253
One of the things I saw in
my first years here was
2278
01:33:27,340 --> 01:33:31,693
there was incredible demand
from the student side
2279
01:33:31,780 --> 01:33:36,001
for hip hop, electronic music,
beat-making--
2280
01:33:36,088 --> 01:33:37,524
you know, the music that
the students are
2281
01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:38,961
actually listening to.
2282
01:33:39,048 --> 01:33:40,353
Yeah!
2283
01:33:41,703 --> 01:33:43,182
You want to record that in?
2284
01:33:43,269 --> 01:33:44,575
We've got to name it
something other than
2285
01:33:44,662 --> 01:33:45,663
the Music Tech Grant.
2286
01:33:45,750 --> 01:33:47,709
We put our heads together.
2287
01:33:47,796 --> 01:33:50,929
There's really only one person
who could possibly be
2288
01:33:51,016 --> 01:33:55,238
the patron saint for this
program, and that's J Dilla.
2289
01:33:55,325 --> 01:33:57,109
Does anybody else wanna take
a stab at a different beat?
2290
01:33:57,196 --> 01:33:58,371
Yes.
2291
01:33:58,458 --> 01:34:00,243
The Dilla Tech Program,
2292
01:34:00,330 --> 01:34:02,549
we see it's incredibly popular
with music students,
2293
01:34:02,637 --> 01:34:04,856
and then it also pulls in
2294
01:34:04,943 --> 01:34:07,250
a whole other
population of students
2295
01:34:07,337 --> 01:34:11,950
who never considered music
through the traditional paths.
2296
01:34:12,037 --> 01:34:13,909
I'm always amazed
2297
01:34:13,996 --> 01:34:15,998
when you take
young people seriously
2298
01:34:16,085 --> 01:34:18,957
and their creativity seriously
what they come back with.
2299
01:34:19,044 --> 01:34:21,003
So, let's meet everybody.
Y'all got to introduce me.
2300
01:34:21,090 --> 01:34:23,092
Absolutely.
This is Elijah right there,
2301
01:34:23,179 --> 01:34:25,007
definitely one of our
producers-in-making over here.
2302
01:34:25,094 --> 01:34:27,183
- How are you?
- Good, man. How you feeling?
2303
01:34:27,270 --> 01:34:28,575
These are some of the guys
over here.
2304
01:34:28,663 --> 01:34:29,968
They're working right now.
2305
01:34:30,055 --> 01:34:31,709
Who's in the booth?
2306
01:34:31,796 --> 01:34:33,276
- Can you engineer?
- No, he engineer my music.
2307
01:34:33,363 --> 01:34:36,279
Oh, yeah? Yeah?
And all of y'all are artists?
2308
01:34:36,366 --> 01:34:37,889
All of y'all are engineers?
All of y'all producers?
2309
01:34:37,976 --> 01:34:38,847
- No, I'm an artist.
- I'm an artist.
2310
01:34:38,934 --> 01:34:40,370
- Artist, artist.
- I'm a ballplayer, too.
2311
01:34:40,457 --> 01:34:41,893
- Ballplayer, too?
- Yeah, he an artist, though.
2312
01:34:41,980 --> 01:34:43,765
All right.
What's your name, champ?
2313
01:34:43,852 --> 01:34:45,201
- Name's Kenny.
- Kenny?
2314
01:34:45,288 --> 01:34:46,637
- I'ma come up.
- Kenny, you wanna come up?
2315
01:34:46,724 --> 01:34:48,204
- Watch this.
- I like it.
2316
01:34:48,291 --> 01:34:50,249
Give it a couple years, man.
Not even a couple years.
2317
01:34:50,336 --> 01:34:51,860
Just give it a couple months.
I'ma blow up.
2318
01:34:51,947 --> 01:34:53,296
I promise y'all that.
You heard?
2319
01:34:53,383 --> 01:34:54,776
You know what?
I like the attitude.
2320
01:34:54,863 --> 01:34:56,168
That's the attitude
you supposed to have.
2321
01:34:56,255 --> 01:34:58,083
You know what I'm saying?
That's what's up.
2322
01:34:58,170 --> 01:35:00,129
So I'm saying--
so can we hear something?
2323
01:35:00,216 --> 01:35:01,565
Which one you want?
2324
01:35:01,652 --> 01:35:04,742
I want the one that
you think is the dopest.
2325
01:35:04,829 --> 01:35:06,483
Like, when you play something
for somebody,
2326
01:35:06,570 --> 01:35:08,006
you give them your best shot.
2327
01:35:08,093 --> 01:35:09,878
You don't give them
something you working on.
2328
01:35:09,965 --> 01:35:12,054
♪ I'ma make it when I'm 18 ♪
2329
01:35:12,141 --> 01:35:13,664
♪ I'ma make it when I'm 18 ♪
2330
01:35:13,751 --> 01:35:15,448
♪ Nigga, I was hoping ♪
2331
01:35:15,535 --> 01:35:17,320
♪ Living in the gutter,
got a single mother ♪
2332
01:35:17,407 --> 01:35:19,191
♪ Nigga, I was broken ♪
2333
01:35:19,278 --> 01:35:20,802
♪ Coming from the struggle,
niggas had to hustle ♪
2334
01:35:20,889 --> 01:35:22,673
♪ Niggas didn't notice ♪
2335
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,414
♪ Coming from the struggle,
niggas had to hustle ♪
2336
01:35:24,501 --> 01:35:25,981
♪ Coming from that
soul search ♪
2337
01:35:26,068 --> 01:35:27,634
♪ Coming from
that soul search ♪
2338
01:35:27,722 --> 01:35:29,506
♪ Nigga, I was hoping ♪
2339
01:35:29,593 --> 01:35:30,725
♪ Living in the gutter,
got a single mother ♪
2340
01:35:30,812 --> 01:35:32,727
♪ Nigga, I was broken ♪
2341
01:35:32,814 --> 01:35:36,165
Who did the track?
You did the track?
2342
01:35:36,252 --> 01:35:40,125
What I hear,
what I hear in that is
2343
01:35:40,212 --> 01:35:42,824
who you was,
you know what I'm saying?
2344
01:35:42,911 --> 01:35:44,390
- Yeah.
- More than anything.
2345
01:35:44,477 --> 01:35:46,915
It's basically--
it's just my pain, you feel me?
2346
01:35:47,002 --> 01:35:50,005
And I just put it in the song,
so I have it.
2347
01:35:50,092 --> 01:35:51,484
I feel like--
I don't know, man.
2348
01:35:51,571 --> 01:35:54,444
We've all looked at life
like--
2349
01:35:54,531 --> 01:35:56,838
like this ain't right,
this ain't fair.
2350
01:35:56,925 --> 01:35:59,797
And--and how do I
get out of here?
2351
01:35:59,884 --> 01:36:01,712
How do I get out of
this position?
2352
01:36:01,799 --> 01:36:06,151
I feel hopeless, right?
2353
01:36:06,238 --> 01:36:09,764
But you're saying,
"I was hopeless."
2354
01:36:09,851 --> 01:36:11,026
You're not saying
"I am hopeless."
2355
01:36:11,113 --> 01:36:12,462
I'm just telling you
what I'm hearing
2356
01:36:12,549 --> 01:36:14,812
and what I see in my head.
I'm like, wow, this is strong.
2357
01:36:14,899 --> 01:36:16,335
This is powerful.
That's a powerful piece.
2358
01:36:16,422 --> 01:36:18,860
That's a dope--that's a dope
rhyme, a dope hook.
2359
01:36:18,947 --> 01:36:19,948
- I appreciate that.
- You know what I'm saying?
2360
01:36:20,035 --> 01:36:21,297
Want to hear some more songs?
2361
01:36:21,384 --> 01:36:24,474
Yeah, yeah. I'm here to
hang out with y'all, man.
2362
01:36:24,561 --> 01:36:26,606
But I'm only trying to hear--
pardon my French--
2363
01:36:26,693 --> 01:36:27,912
I'm only trying to hear
dope shit.
2364
01:36:27,999 --> 01:36:30,262
I'm not into--I'm not into--
[laughter]
2365
01:36:30,349 --> 01:36:32,525
- You let me know if it's not.
- All right?
2366
01:36:32,612 --> 01:36:33,962
I'ma let y'all know.
I'm telling you.
2367
01:36:34,049 --> 01:36:35,311
All right, cool.
I'ma let you know.
2368
01:36:35,398 --> 01:36:37,008
A'ight, who's next?
2369
01:36:37,095 --> 01:36:39,445
[indistinct chatter]
2370
01:36:39,532 --> 01:36:40,403
Talk to me.
2371
01:36:40,490 --> 01:36:41,839
This you?
2372
01:36:41,926 --> 01:36:44,537
[R&B music playing]
2373
01:36:44,624 --> 01:36:47,540
♪ Together forever
don't last ♪
2374
01:36:47,627 --> 01:36:50,587
♪ I need some energy ♪
2375
01:36:50,674 --> 01:36:53,633
♪ I'm running but
I ain't that fast ♪
2376
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,375
"I'm running but I ain't
that fast," whoo!
2377
01:36:56,462 --> 01:36:58,943
♪ 'Cause everybody's
living it ♪
2378
01:36:59,030 --> 01:37:01,163
♪ What's love if it
ain't guaranteed? ♪
2379
01:37:01,250 --> 01:37:03,034
♪ Don't need no games,
no names ♪
2380
01:37:03,121 --> 01:37:05,863
♪ Don't need no time wasted ♪
2381
01:37:05,950 --> 01:37:08,692
♪ You slept on me,
so I vacated ♪
2382
01:37:08,779 --> 01:37:10,346
♪ I got no patience ♪
2383
01:37:10,433 --> 01:37:11,869
♪ If I get my heart
broke again ♪
2384
01:37:11,956 --> 01:37:14,306
♪ That's it,
I ain't doing it ♪
2385
01:37:14,393 --> 01:37:19,485
♪ What's love
if it ain't guaranteed ♪
2386
01:37:19,572 --> 01:37:23,925
[students cheering]
2387
01:37:24,012 --> 01:37:25,622
Yo, pause that, pause that,
pause that.
2388
01:37:25,709 --> 01:37:27,102
That's fucking amazing.
2389
01:37:27,189 --> 01:37:28,059
- Thank you.
- You did that.
2390
01:37:28,146 --> 01:37:30,801
I really--
I really appreciate it.
2391
01:37:30,888 --> 01:37:31,976
Now, now, hold up, now.
2392
01:37:32,063 --> 01:37:32,716
Real quick,
before we move forward--
2393
01:37:32,803 --> 01:37:34,587
before we move forward--
2394
01:37:34,674 --> 01:37:35,937
students: ♪ I got no energy ♪
- A'ight? Yo.
2395
01:37:36,024 --> 01:37:38,722
[laughter]
2396
01:37:38,809 --> 01:37:40,593
Now, real quick,
real quick, real quick,
2397
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:42,030
why is this the best song?
2398
01:37:42,117 --> 01:37:44,206
She put so much emotion
into it.
2399
01:37:44,293 --> 01:37:45,468
she not worried about
2400
01:37:45,555 --> 01:37:47,035
what people doing today.
- Yeah.
2401
01:37:47,122 --> 01:37:48,819
She got the most originality
I've ever heard.
2402
01:37:48,906 --> 01:37:50,125
The track that she chose
2403
01:37:50,212 --> 01:37:52,170
differentiated her from
everyone here.
2404
01:37:52,257 --> 01:37:55,130
She was comfortable in
her authenticity.
2405
01:37:55,217 --> 01:37:57,045
She was comfortable in
who she was.
2406
01:37:57,132 --> 01:37:58,829
And I'm trying to
get somewhere,
2407
01:37:58,916 --> 01:38:00,700
but I'm not that fast--whoo!
2408
01:38:00,787 --> 01:38:02,050
Right? That is hard.
2409
01:38:02,137 --> 01:38:05,792
Whoo, that's hard.
That's hard.
2410
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,186
You keep writing.
Yo, you nailed that.
2411
01:38:08,273 --> 01:38:09,535
You nailed that.
2412
01:38:09,622 --> 01:38:10,580
I want to go next.
2413
01:38:10,667 --> 01:38:11,842
Oh, you gon' go next?
2414
01:38:11,929 --> 01:38:13,061
That's the--that's the one.
2415
01:38:13,148 --> 01:38:14,236
I'ma show you what I wrote.
2416
01:38:14,323 --> 01:38:16,542
Yeah? You said that
like you dead nice.
2417
01:38:16,629 --> 01:38:17,804
OK, here we go.
2418
01:38:17,892 --> 01:38:21,199
[hip hop music playing]
2419
01:38:21,286 --> 01:38:24,463
[vocalizing]
2420
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:26,291
You can hear me now?
2421
01:38:26,378 --> 01:38:29,642
[indistinct singing]
[laughter and chatter]
2422
01:38:29,729 --> 01:38:33,777
A lot of times, artists
and actors and entertainers
2423
01:38:33,864 --> 01:38:36,867
would have you believe that
it's magic, but it's not.
2424
01:38:36,954 --> 01:38:39,739
It's the result of efforts.
2425
01:38:39,826 --> 01:38:44,657
Today I have the wherewithal
to speak, to help, to share.
2426
01:38:44,744 --> 01:38:45,876
[laughter]
2427
01:38:45,963 --> 01:38:47,356
Something
that's already there.
2428
01:38:47,443 --> 01:38:50,098
Sometimes just giving
a compliment
2429
01:38:50,185 --> 01:38:51,926
or a constructive criticism
2430
01:38:52,013 --> 01:38:53,753
is exactly what's needed.
2431
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,538
You play that over there, man.
2432
01:38:55,625 --> 01:38:57,670
You and Iyanna are the
Black Sheep of your class.
2433
01:38:57,757 --> 01:38:59,324
We're all the product of
2434
01:38:59,411 --> 01:39:02,937
some really horrific events,
as a community.
2435
01:39:03,024 --> 01:39:05,983
It's important that we start
bridging some of the gaps
2436
01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:07,506
between the generations.
2437
01:39:07,593 --> 01:39:08,638
I expect big things
from y'all.
2438
01:39:08,725 --> 01:39:10,422
Oh, my pleasure.
2439
01:39:10,509 --> 01:39:14,731
They're the seeds to beautiful
flowers in the future.
2440
01:39:15,906 --> 01:39:18,343
[cheering]
- Okay.
2441
01:39:18,430 --> 01:39:21,738
[chatter]
2442
01:39:21,825 --> 01:39:23,435
Good song, brother.
Good song.
2443
01:39:25,394 --> 01:39:27,700
[radio static]
2444
01:39:27,787 --> 01:39:30,094
Yes, yes, yes, citizens.
2445
01:39:30,181 --> 01:39:32,401
It's a new year.
2446
01:39:32,488 --> 01:39:34,533
They say patience is a virtue.
If that's the truth,
2447
01:39:34,620 --> 01:39:35,882
this is the
most virtuous person
2448
01:39:35,970 --> 01:39:37,449
you gon' see on the mic today,
2449
01:39:37,536 --> 01:39:39,321
the next big thing in hip hop,
2450
01:39:39,408 --> 01:39:41,105
the one and only Lola Brooke
is here.
2451
01:39:41,192 --> 01:39:43,890
Give her a big round
of applause.
2452
01:39:43,978 --> 01:39:46,589
Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn,
Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn!
2453
01:39:46,676 --> 01:39:49,113
Damn, man. I was nervous
when I saw you in the lobby.
2454
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,159
- For real?
- Yeah, man, honestly.
2455
01:39:51,246 --> 01:39:53,074
No, no!
2456
01:39:53,161 --> 01:39:57,078
My man Sav sent me Lola's
new song called "Just Relax."
2457
01:39:57,165 --> 01:40:00,429
Immediately, after I listened
to it, like, what?
2458
01:40:00,516 --> 01:40:02,997
How did she pick this sample?
2459
01:40:03,084 --> 01:40:04,607
"This or That" by Black Sheep,
2460
01:40:04,694 --> 01:40:06,348
shout-out to Mista Lawnge
and Dres.
2461
01:40:06,435 --> 01:40:08,263
This was a huge hit
in the '90s,
2462
01:40:08,350 --> 01:40:10,656
and then you're making it
a huge hit in 2023.
2463
01:40:10,743 --> 01:40:13,268
This is "Just Relax."
Phone lines are open.
2464
01:40:13,355 --> 01:40:15,792
Lola Brooke is here. 888-7423.
2465
01:40:15,879 --> 01:40:17,576
See, the 1,200s is
full power, though.
2466
01:40:17,663 --> 01:40:20,362
[indistinct chatter]
2467
01:40:20,449 --> 01:40:23,365
Today we shooting my video,
"Just Relax," you know.
2468
01:40:23,452 --> 01:40:25,671
I'm not relaxing, though,
because I'm working.
2469
01:40:25,758 --> 01:40:27,325
All right, guys, last look.
That's it. Last looks.
2470
01:40:27,412 --> 01:40:28,370
We're about to roll.
- Last looks.
2471
01:40:28,457 --> 01:40:31,764
This is really
a legendary sample
2472
01:40:31,851 --> 01:40:33,592
from the legendary song.
2473
01:40:33,679 --> 01:40:36,204
So I kinda was scared
to touch it because
2474
01:40:36,291 --> 01:40:37,944
a lot of people would be like,
oh--
2475
01:40:38,032 --> 01:40:41,296
my mom would say,
"girl, that right there,
2476
01:40:41,383 --> 01:40:43,602
when I was your age,
we was outside."
2477
01:40:43,689 --> 01:40:46,214
And I'm like, oh, my God.
- Roll camera.
2478
01:40:46,301 --> 01:40:47,258
And playback.
2479
01:40:47,345 --> 01:40:49,173
Yes, so good.
2480
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,525
all: Girl!
2481
01:40:53,612 --> 01:40:55,179
[Lola Brooke's
"Just Relax" playing]
2482
01:40:55,266 --> 01:40:57,573
♪ Bitches wan' be this
'cause I was always that ♪
2483
01:40:57,660 --> 01:40:59,488
♪ Niggas say they rich?
Let's keep it a stack ♪
2484
01:40:59,575 --> 01:41:02,056
♪ I ain't with the tic,
I be moving tac ♪
2485
01:41:02,143 --> 01:41:03,100
♪ Bitches say they it ♪
2486
01:41:03,187 --> 01:41:05,320
♪ Man, bitch, just relax ♪
2487
01:41:05,407 --> 01:41:06,625
- Big record for you.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2488
01:41:06,712 --> 01:41:08,714
No doubt, no doubt.
I feel good about it, too.
2489
01:41:08,801 --> 01:41:15,547
Like it's--I've had people
try to use the record.
2490
01:41:15,634 --> 01:41:18,289
And like, people always ask me
to kinda do something
2491
01:41:18,376 --> 01:41:21,292
with them with it and,
I mean, like, mm-mm.
2492
01:41:21,379 --> 01:41:23,033
Like, nah.
Like, you know, like,
2493
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,208
I would never mess with it
2494
01:41:24,295 --> 01:41:26,341
because it's always been right.
2495
01:41:26,428 --> 01:41:28,734
♪ Man, bitch, just relax ♪
2496
01:41:28,821 --> 01:41:31,476
But this is the only one
that I've actually thought
2497
01:41:31,563 --> 01:41:34,479
had a chance of, you know,
being successful
2498
01:41:34,566 --> 01:41:36,307
that I was like,
okay, I fuck with that.
2499
01:41:36,394 --> 01:41:37,874
♪ Taking pictures
like bitches ♪
2500
01:41:37,961 --> 01:41:40,529
- All right, that's what's up.
- Got it.
2501
01:41:40,616 --> 01:41:41,965
Just want to say hello
to you, lady.
2502
01:41:42,052 --> 01:41:44,489
- Oh, my God!
- I'm so happy for you.
2503
01:41:44,576 --> 01:41:46,578
You over here doing
tremendous things.
2504
01:41:46,665 --> 01:41:47,927
- Thank you for coming!
- You're killing it.
2505
01:41:48,014 --> 01:41:49,233
- Oh, you like it?
- I love it.
2506
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:50,713
I'm over there looking at you,
going--
2507
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,497
- As long as you love it.
- I love it. I love it.
2508
01:41:52,584 --> 01:41:55,065
You are literally
the only person that I feel,
2509
01:41:55,152 --> 01:41:57,198
like, did something with it.
2510
01:41:57,285 --> 01:41:59,069
I love what you're doing.
- Really?
2511
01:41:59,156 --> 01:42:01,332
And that's no bullshit.
I love it.
2512
01:42:01,419 --> 01:42:03,291
Oh, that's a good day
for me, man, for real.
2513
01:42:03,378 --> 01:42:05,206
Man, you got a lot of
good days ahead of you, lady.
2514
01:42:05,293 --> 01:42:06,511
- Oh, stone cold shit.
- Keep doing what you're doing.
2515
01:42:06,598 --> 01:42:09,645
You know what I'm saying?
2516
01:42:09,732 --> 01:42:11,516
Dres is here at
the video shoot.
2517
01:42:11,603 --> 01:42:14,824
This is really
a legendary situation.
2518
01:42:14,911 --> 01:42:15,868
Yo, keep rocking out.
2519
01:42:15,955 --> 01:42:17,131
I'm here--
- Are you here?
2520
01:42:17,218 --> 01:42:18,697
Yeah, yeah,
I ain't going nowhere.
2521
01:42:18,784 --> 01:42:20,351
I couldn't ask for anything
better than
2522
01:42:20,438 --> 01:42:23,572
the support from Dres,
for real, for real.
2523
01:42:23,659 --> 01:42:26,009
I'm right here.
I'm right here. I'm coming.
2524
01:42:26,096 --> 01:42:26,966
All right,
we're ready to reset.
2525
01:42:27,053 --> 01:42:28,968
Let's reset, reset, reset.
2526
01:42:29,055 --> 01:42:30,535
[Lola Brooke's
"Just Relax" playing]
2527
01:42:30,622 --> 01:42:32,798
♪ A pricey lil' thing,
they be ducking the fee ♪
2528
01:42:32,885 --> 01:42:35,149
♪ Chasing after checks,
they be running to me ♪
2529
01:42:35,236 --> 01:42:37,151
♪ Your man is the bro,
we ain't fucking, sis, please ♪
2530
01:42:37,238 --> 01:42:39,675
- Woah, woah!
- Feels dope.
2531
01:42:39,762 --> 01:42:40,676
Dope energy.
2532
01:42:40,763 --> 01:42:43,722
♪ ♪
2533
01:42:43,809 --> 01:42:45,333
That was hard.
2534
01:42:49,250 --> 01:42:51,121
Yeah.
Every time it was action,
2535
01:42:51,208 --> 01:42:52,775
we was--we was--we was that.
2536
01:42:55,169 --> 01:42:56,909
One of--one of the things
that we did
2537
01:42:56,996 --> 01:43:00,522
with "The Choice Is Yours" was
we intentionally went down.
2538
01:43:00,609 --> 01:43:02,741
What you doing right now,
going side to side,
2539
01:43:02,828 --> 01:43:05,048
pick a part of the record--
- I was just about to say that.
2540
01:43:05,135 --> 01:43:06,919
Pick the same part
every time.
2541
01:43:07,006 --> 01:43:09,531
- This to then--got you.
- A'ight?
2542
01:43:09,618 --> 01:43:11,489
I just was saying it
to myself, like,
2543
01:43:11,576 --> 01:43:13,709
I gotta do the side--
- But you gotta--
2544
01:43:13,796 --> 01:43:15,189
But pick the part.
Pick the part, okay?
2545
01:43:15,276 --> 01:43:16,973
Pick the part in your head,
2546
01:43:17,060 --> 01:43:18,540
and keep it the same,
all right?
2547
01:43:18,627 --> 01:43:19,541
I got you, I promise.
Watch it.
2548
01:43:19,628 --> 01:43:21,238
No, no. OK, cool.
2549
01:43:21,325 --> 01:43:23,458
Yo, the energy is the same as
2550
01:43:23,545 --> 01:43:25,416
when I did mine--
- When you was doing it?
2551
01:43:25,503 --> 01:43:27,984
Except y'all are all girls.
We was all boys.
2552
01:43:28,071 --> 01:43:30,378
Oh, all right.
Well, we gon' eat y'all up.
2553
01:43:30,465 --> 01:43:32,989
You know I'm saying?
That's what's up.
2554
01:43:33,076 --> 01:43:36,949
Word up.
Y'all balancing it out.
2555
01:43:37,036 --> 01:43:40,779
♪ Crazy 'bout mines,
better know how to fight ♪
2556
01:43:40,866 --> 01:43:41,911
I got left.
2557
01:43:41,998 --> 01:43:43,391
On my right.
2558
01:43:43,478 --> 01:43:44,740
To the left.
2559
01:43:44,827 --> 01:43:46,481
Right.
2560
01:43:46,568 --> 01:43:49,179
Left!
♪ Bitch, just relax ♪
2561
01:43:49,266 --> 01:43:51,703
Cut.
[cheering]
2562
01:43:51,790 --> 01:43:53,444
- I'm Dres. Peace, man.
- Nice to meet you.
2563
01:43:53,531 --> 01:43:53,966
- Nice to meet you, as well.
- Nice to meet you.
2564
01:43:54,053 --> 01:43:55,707
So we're gonna do--
2565
01:43:55,794 --> 01:43:56,839
we're gonna do
a little close up right here,
2566
01:43:56,926 --> 01:43:58,101
and then we're gonna do a wide.
2567
01:43:58,188 --> 01:43:59,450
And I want to have you come in
that one.
2568
01:43:59,537 --> 01:44:00,408
- Okay, sounds good.
- So we're gonna do
2569
01:44:00,495 --> 01:44:01,365
a little quick movement on her
2570
01:44:01,452 --> 01:44:03,585
then let you guys vibe out.
2571
01:44:03,672 --> 01:44:05,456
Sounds cool. All right.
2572
01:44:05,543 --> 01:44:08,677
[all cheering]
2573
01:44:08,764 --> 01:44:13,377
[chanting]
2574
01:44:24,954 --> 01:44:27,565
Being a artist, it's always
a good feeling to know that
2575
01:44:27,652 --> 01:44:30,264
the ones that was here before
you actually accept you,
2576
01:44:30,351 --> 01:44:32,353
and they're willing to
guide you
2577
01:44:32,440 --> 01:44:34,790
and let you know
what is there to be expected.
2578
01:44:34,877 --> 01:44:36,792
I'm so grateful.
2579
01:44:36,879 --> 01:44:39,751
[resonant music]
2580
01:44:39,838 --> 01:44:41,492
♪ ♪
2581
01:44:41,579 --> 01:44:46,280
Music allows you to carry
something with you.
2582
01:44:46,367 --> 01:44:47,977
Like, how I play
"The Choice Is Yours,"
2583
01:44:48,064 --> 01:44:50,196
she's gonna wind up
playing her song for years,
2584
01:44:50,284 --> 01:44:52,155
and years, and years.
2585
01:44:52,242 --> 01:44:53,983
And, at some point,
someone's gonna
2586
01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:56,115
want to do something with
her version,
2587
01:44:56,202 --> 01:44:58,770
if she's fortunate.
I was fortunate.
2588
01:44:58,857 --> 01:45:03,688
♪ ♪
2589
01:45:03,775 --> 01:45:06,561
When you think about
what hip hop is,
2590
01:45:06,648 --> 01:45:10,521
which is this incredible genre
and culture
2591
01:45:10,608 --> 01:45:13,655
that is inherently,
by its very nature,
2592
01:45:13,742 --> 01:45:15,874
based on past music,
2593
01:45:15,961 --> 01:45:19,095
like, that is what it is
at its core...
2594
01:45:19,182 --> 01:45:20,966
That's hard. That is hard!
2595
01:45:21,053 --> 01:45:24,492
whether it's Lola Brooke
sampling "The Choice Is Yours"
2596
01:45:24,579 --> 01:45:27,843
or Dres rapping over Dilla,
2597
01:45:27,930 --> 01:45:30,498
it's like, music has a moment,
and then it cycles around.
2598
01:45:30,585 --> 01:45:31,977
It's gone for a long time,
and then it's like,
2599
01:45:32,064 --> 01:45:33,805
whoa, it's back.
2600
01:45:33,892 --> 01:45:37,374
It's sort of like dying and
going back into the earth.
2601
01:45:37,461 --> 01:45:39,202
That's what immortality is,
2602
01:45:39,289 --> 01:45:42,814
when people are still talking
about you when you're gone.
2603
01:45:42,901 --> 01:45:44,686
That's how we supposed to be.
2604
01:45:44,773 --> 01:45:46,514
Your spirit and your energy
still lives on,
2605
01:45:46,601 --> 01:45:48,951
and that's what
gives you life.
2606
01:45:49,038 --> 01:45:51,040
The torch--the torch is
officially yours, all right?
2607
01:45:51,127 --> 01:45:52,607
Oh, thank you!
2608
01:45:52,694 --> 01:45:53,999
The torch is
officially yours.
2609
01:45:54,086 --> 01:45:57,568
So many of our vets
are always thinking about
2610
01:45:57,655 --> 01:46:00,876
the next album
or the next tour
2611
01:46:00,963 --> 01:46:03,531
or when they're finally
gonna get back to
2612
01:46:03,618 --> 01:46:06,447
where they were back when.
2613
01:46:06,534 --> 01:46:09,450
Is it really more about
just this?
2614
01:46:09,537 --> 01:46:10,712
Keep doing it,
you know what I'm saying?
2615
01:46:10,799 --> 01:46:12,322
- Thank you.
- This is just the beginning.
2616
01:46:12,409 --> 01:46:13,976
Keep doing it.
- Just the beginning.
2617
01:46:14,063 --> 01:46:16,761
It's the idea that
your music can continue
2618
01:46:16,848 --> 01:46:18,154
to create more music...
2619
01:46:18,241 --> 01:46:20,765
When I say Lola,
you say Brooke.
2620
01:46:20,852 --> 01:46:23,159
Entering sort of
that ecosystem.
2621
01:46:23,246 --> 01:46:24,987
- Drive safe, bro.
- Oh, you, too.
2622
01:46:25,074 --> 01:46:26,423
Love is love, man, for real.
2623
01:46:26,510 --> 01:46:27,598
Yo, I just wanna say thanks,
Dres, man.
2624
01:46:27,685 --> 01:46:29,557
You know what I'm saying?
We made this--
2625
01:46:29,644 --> 01:46:31,689
we definitely made this happen.
- Yeah, man. Yo, yo.
2626
01:46:31,776 --> 01:46:33,778
I told you
when we was talking.
2627
01:46:33,865 --> 01:46:35,432
Everyone always wants to
have that next moment.
2628
01:46:35,519 --> 01:46:37,347
Everyone wants to
get their flowers.
2629
01:46:37,434 --> 01:46:39,741
But sometimes maybe the
flowers are being given to you
2630
01:46:39,828 --> 01:46:42,613
and you're not even
looking that direction.
2631
01:46:42,700 --> 01:46:43,788
You know what's gon' be
the best part?
2632
01:46:43,875 --> 01:46:48,402
When the kid is playing
Lola's verse,
2633
01:46:48,489 --> 01:46:50,969
and their parent is saying,
"no, this is--"
2634
01:46:51,056 --> 01:46:53,102
and the kid going to be like,
"you hear that? No, no, no."
2635
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:55,191
Or the parents play theirs,
2636
01:46:55,278 --> 01:46:56,845
and they be like,
"oh, that's Lola Brooke."
2637
01:46:56,932 --> 01:46:58,673
They be like, no, no, no.
Let me hear your Dres.
2638
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,023
Like, oh, that was Dres?
- I love that about it.
2639
01:47:01,110 --> 01:47:03,634
Oh, yeah, you know how they do.
- Yeah, I know.
2640
01:47:03,721 --> 01:47:05,027
You know how they do.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
2641
01:47:05,114 --> 01:47:06,420
- I gotta go deal with this.
- Yeah, yeah.
2642
01:47:06,507 --> 01:47:09,771
Make sure everything good.
I'll talk to you.
2643
01:47:09,858 --> 01:47:12,774
Them boys be pulling up
on the set...
2644
01:47:12,861 --> 01:47:15,211
[indistinct chatter]
2645
01:47:15,298 --> 01:47:19,128
And there'd be times like this where...
2646
01:47:19,215 --> 01:47:21,826
brother like myself...
2647
01:47:21,913 --> 01:47:23,785
exit stage left.
2648
01:47:23,872 --> 01:47:26,744
[chill music]
2649
01:47:26,831 --> 01:47:28,398
♪ ♪
2650
01:47:28,485 --> 01:47:30,748
Yo, just--cops out here.
2651
01:47:30,835 --> 01:47:37,451
♪ ♪
2652
01:47:45,676 --> 01:47:47,591
Big up yourselves, word up.
2653
01:47:47,678 --> 01:47:50,507
Y'all got it going on.
[cheering]
2654
01:47:50,594 --> 01:47:52,683
Now, normally, normally, you
hear "The Choice Is Yours,"
2655
01:47:52,770 --> 01:47:55,033
that's, like,
the end of my shit.
2656
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:56,470
But I got a project coming out
2657
01:47:56,557 --> 01:47:57,949
that's gon' blow
all y'all minds,
2658
01:47:58,036 --> 01:48:01,257
completely produced by
J Dilla, for real.
2659
01:48:01,344 --> 01:48:03,781
So maybe we'll introduce
a little bit of it to y'all,
2660
01:48:03,868 --> 01:48:06,088
you know what I'm saying?
Why not?
2661
01:48:06,175 --> 01:48:12,834
♪ I, baby,
don't need your love ♪
2662
01:48:12,921 --> 01:48:16,011
♪ ♪
2663
01:48:16,098 --> 01:48:22,800
♪ I, baby,
don't need your love ♪
2664
01:48:22,887 --> 01:48:25,934
♪ ♪
2665
01:48:26,021 --> 01:48:32,723
♪ I, baby,
don't need your love ♪
2666
01:48:32,810 --> 01:48:36,031
♪ ♪
2667
01:48:36,118 --> 01:48:42,820
♪ I, baby,
don't need your love ♪
2668
01:48:42,907 --> 01:48:45,127
♪ ♪
2669
01:48:45,214 --> 01:48:50,001
♪ No, I'll never stop living ♪
2670
01:48:50,088 --> 01:48:54,702
♪ No, I'll never
stop living ♪
2671
01:48:54,789 --> 01:48:59,489
♪ No, I'll never stop living ♪
2672
01:48:59,576 --> 01:49:02,710
♪ With this love ♪
2673
01:49:02,797 --> 01:49:05,887
♪ MTV ♪
2674
01:49:05,974 --> 01:49:08,672
[electric guitar sting,
record scratches]