1 00:00:01,376 --> 00:00:04,463 ♪ tense music playing ♪ 2 00:00:06,048 --> 00:00:08,675 [carriage rattling] 3 00:00:09,885 --> 00:00:12,971 NARRATOR: Last night was a long night 4 00:00:12,971 --> 00:00:15,098 for chili kingmaker Johnny Scoville. 5 00:00:15,432 --> 00:00:17,768 I don't know what the truth is, and that's the problem. 6 00:00:18,227 --> 00:00:20,312 NARRATOR: Allegations that Jimmy Pickle stole 7 00:00:20,312 --> 00:00:23,565 the JP Piranha swept across the chili world, 8 00:00:23,565 --> 00:00:25,901 and Johnny doom scrolled till dawn. 9 00:00:25,901 --> 00:00:28,570 Seriously, he read, like, every comment. 10 00:00:28,570 --> 00:00:31,406 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 11 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:33,283 With both men in the same city, 12 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:36,161 Johnny demanded a face-to-face meeting right away 13 00:00:36,161 --> 00:00:37,120 to clear the air. 14 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:42,209 Not like he's gonna be. 15 00:00:42,668 --> 00:00:45,254 I'm-I'm ready. This is something that needs to happen. 16 00:00:45,671 --> 00:00:46,755 I need answers. 17 00:00:46,755 --> 00:00:48,799 I've worked really hard, I've never had a misstep. 18 00:00:48,799 --> 00:00:50,926 I've got a pretty good reputation in the chili world. 19 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:53,136 JIMMY PICKLES: Johnny Scoville. 20 00:00:53,136 --> 00:00:55,681 He needs to convince me big time. 21 00:00:55,681 --> 00:00:59,434 Make this make sense or I'm done, I'm done with Jimmy, 22 00:00:59,434 --> 00:01:01,687 and I'm gonna treat him like Paulie from Goodfellas, 23 00:01:01,687 --> 00:01:03,146 I'm gonna turn my back on him. 24 00:01:03,647 --> 00:01:05,524 You got a pepper that's hot. JIMMY: Yeah. 25 00:01:05,524 --> 00:01:07,192 But there are those that are saying that the, 26 00:01:07,192 --> 00:01:10,070 you know, the origin of-of the JP Piranha is questionable. 27 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:11,780 Stuff that's online, saying that 28 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:13,323 that cross didn't come from you. 29 00:01:13,323 --> 00:01:15,659 And I go on this quest to find a pantheon of peppers, 30 00:01:15,659 --> 00:01:18,036 after all this whole journey, seven years, all this, 31 00:01:18,036 --> 00:01:19,371 to find there is some question. 32 00:01:19,371 --> 00:01:20,789 That was-- I couldn't, I lost sleep. 33 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:22,666 Yeah. There-There's no question. 34 00:01:22,666 --> 00:01:26,420 There-- I-I-I-- If I went on, one hand on The Bible, yes. 35 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:28,672 I'm glad you're bringing this up, I'm very glad. 36 00:01:28,672 --> 00:01:29,965 Everything's documented. 37 00:01:29,965 --> 00:01:33,093 Uh, since 2018, I made the cross. 38 00:01:33,093 --> 00:01:36,388 It is a Naga Bubblegum crossed into a Primotalii. 39 00:01:36,388 --> 00:01:38,640 So the-the P-Piranha you've had, you've grown-- 40 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,350 how many seasons have you grown the Piranha? 41 00:01:40,350 --> 00:01:42,186 Um, this is going to be the seventh. 42 00:01:42,186 --> 00:01:44,479 You can look through the documentation, which I have. 43 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:45,898 Do you-- Did you bring it with you? 44 00:01:45,898 --> 00:01:47,441 - Yes. - Let me see it. I-I wanna see it. 45 00:01:47,441 --> 00:01:52,487 Uh, so, getting to the nitty-gritty, F1, 2018. I made a video. 46 00:01:55,699 --> 00:01:57,743 JOHNNY SCOVILLE: That's F1 and in 2018? 47 00:01:57,743 --> 00:01:58,577 JIMMY: Yes. 48 00:01:58,577 --> 00:02:00,579 Time stamps are very important. 49 00:02:01,288 --> 00:02:03,332 NARRATOR: When Jimmy says the term F1, 50 00:02:03,332 --> 00:02:06,126 he's referring to the first generation of his pepper plant. 51 00:02:06,585 --> 00:02:09,755 A pepper plant doesn't produce a consisting crop of similar peppers 52 00:02:09,755 --> 00:02:12,841 until it's stable, when it reaches F7. 53 00:02:13,217 --> 00:02:15,260 Superhot creators often chronicle proof 54 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:18,430 of all generations to document their work. 55 00:02:18,430 --> 00:02:23,227 JIMMY [on recording]: The JP Piranha, 2018, F1. 56 00:02:23,227 --> 00:02:24,561 Yeah, I mean, the thing is, 57 00:02:24,561 --> 00:02:26,897 I-I get tired of the pepper community. 58 00:02:27,272 --> 00:02:29,942 It's like, the second somebody has somethin', 59 00:02:29,942 --> 00:02:32,986 "I have it, too!" Some-- "I have it, too!" "I have it, too!" 60 00:02:33,529 --> 00:02:35,531 And I see it all the time. 61 00:02:36,365 --> 00:02:39,117 And I sell it to people, and then they go and rename it. 62 00:02:39,117 --> 00:02:42,246 So it's important to have some type of, uh, paper trail. 63 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:45,040 I have pictures of generations, so-- 64 00:02:46,041 --> 00:02:48,252 You know, I got proof of everything I do. 65 00:02:48,252 --> 00:02:49,336 Boom, there you go. 66 00:02:50,462 --> 00:02:53,131 I think it's important I be truthful. 67 00:02:53,131 --> 00:02:54,758 Yep. You have my word. JOHNNY: Alright. 68 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:56,343 The-the community has my word. 69 00:02:56,343 --> 00:02:58,095 So I've said everything that I need to. 70 00:02:58,095 --> 00:02:59,263 - Sure. - I just hope that-- 71 00:02:59,263 --> 00:03:02,140 I-I hope nothing pops up that's gonna go, "Oh, here we go again. 72 00:03:02,140 --> 00:03:03,100 I just wanna be done with it. 73 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:04,685 I appreciate the pictures and the documentation. 74 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:06,270 That helped a lot. - I appreciate you, Johnny. 75 00:03:06,270 --> 00:03:09,022 You're welcome, and I'm-I'm taking you at face value. 76 00:03:09,398 --> 00:03:12,609 You know, Jimmy's all over the place, but he's said stuff that made sense to me. 77 00:03:12,609 --> 00:03:14,444 The last thing I wanna do is turn my back on a friend, 78 00:03:14,444 --> 00:03:16,238 and fortunately, he said the things that were necessary 79 00:03:16,238 --> 00:03:18,448 that calmed my nerves moving forward with this. 80 00:03:18,448 --> 00:03:19,700 New day? - New day. 81 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:21,076 JOHNNY: No drama? JIMMY: No drama. 82 00:03:21,535 --> 00:03:23,579 ♪ dramatic theme music playing ♪ 83 00:03:23,579 --> 00:03:24,788 [pepper crunches] 84 00:03:26,915 --> 00:03:29,001 [flame sizzles] 85 00:03:30,544 --> 00:03:32,462 [bubbling] 86 00:03:35,591 --> 00:03:38,927 [flame sizzling] 87 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:40,554 [pepper crunches] 88 00:03:40,554 --> 00:03:42,181 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 89 00:03:42,181 --> 00:03:44,933 NARRATOR: The pepper game is not for the meek. 90 00:03:44,933 --> 00:03:45,851 [gulps] 91 00:03:46,685 --> 00:03:47,603 It's loud... 92 00:03:47,603 --> 00:03:48,979 [heaves] 93 00:03:48,979 --> 00:03:50,647 NARRATOR: ...and in your face. 94 00:03:51,732 --> 00:03:55,652 Perhaps no one reps that better than chili addict Zach Goot. 95 00:03:56,403 --> 00:03:59,448 With his bright red hair and need for the spotlight... 96 00:03:59,448 --> 00:04:01,158 Let's go, Zest Fest! 97 00:04:01,158 --> 00:04:03,410 NARRATOR: ...he's not the kind of guy who's easy to miss. 98 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:04,494 Ah! 99 00:04:06,997 --> 00:04:07,998 NARRATOR: Until now. 100 00:04:07,998 --> 00:04:11,376 ♪ gentle playful music playing ♪ 101 00:04:11,376 --> 00:04:13,253 Hello, good morning, good morning. 102 00:04:14,171 --> 00:04:15,005 [bell dings] 103 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:17,424 - How are you, how are you? - Good. 104 00:04:17,424 --> 00:04:19,676 Can I just get a regular coffee with cream, please? 105 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:21,136 - You got it. - Thank you. 106 00:04:21,136 --> 00:04:22,304 NARRATOR: A couple months back, 107 00:04:22,304 --> 00:04:25,224 Zach retired from the Texas Hot Spot livestream 108 00:04:25,224 --> 00:04:27,226 and the chili community at large. 109 00:04:27,643 --> 00:04:30,979 He's slipped up from time to time, but for the most part, 110 00:04:30,979 --> 00:04:33,815 he's been living a much less spicy life. 111 00:04:33,815 --> 00:04:36,777 I mean, this guy's not even eating spicy peanuts anymore. 112 00:04:36,777 --> 00:04:37,819 Since I retired, 113 00:04:38,445 --> 00:04:42,074 I, I took about 90 days of just straight thinking. 114 00:04:42,074 --> 00:04:45,285 Me and my wife are much better. 115 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:47,246 Our daughter, she got accepted 116 00:04:47,246 --> 00:04:49,081 into the gifted and talented program, 117 00:04:49,081 --> 00:04:50,499 which is amazing. 118 00:04:50,499 --> 00:04:52,751 So lately, in my life, what I've been doin' 119 00:04:53,126 --> 00:04:57,756 is workin' in the school as the security guard. 120 00:04:57,756 --> 00:05:00,300 Um, it's been quite an adjustment 121 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:04,388 uh, since I'm used to bein' so... rowdy. 122 00:05:04,388 --> 00:05:08,350 Usually, I would sleep in till about 11 or 12 o'clock, [laughs] 123 00:05:08,350 --> 00:05:09,810 'cause I didn't really have a job. 124 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:11,645 But now I'm wakin' up early, 125 00:05:11,645 --> 00:05:13,230 makin' sure I get some coffee in me, 126 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:14,815 and I'm headin' to work. 127 00:05:14,815 --> 00:05:17,192 [machine whirring] 128 00:05:17,192 --> 00:05:20,445 [rain pattering] 129 00:05:27,995 --> 00:05:30,873 Um, yes, when I took a step back, 130 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:32,916 and I got off the internet, 131 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:36,420 and, you know, the attention stopped, 132 00:05:37,421 --> 00:05:38,755 yeah, I got a little lonely. 133 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:40,299 I started drinking a little bit. 134 00:05:40,299 --> 00:05:41,341 Um-- 135 00:05:42,301 --> 00:05:44,344 Well, not a little bit, I started drinkin' a lot a bit. 136 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,305 I started drinkin' about six beers a night, 137 00:05:46,305 --> 00:05:48,640 and that turned slowly into 12 beers a night. 138 00:05:49,975 --> 00:05:53,187 The old addictions do keep comin' and hittin' on the door, 139 00:05:53,187 --> 00:05:54,521 knockin' on the door, but, uh, 140 00:05:55,063 --> 00:05:57,274 we try to keep 'em at bay as best we can. 141 00:05:57,274 --> 00:06:01,153 And the only way to really, really relieve that trigger 142 00:06:01,153 --> 00:06:02,237 or that warning 143 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:04,948 is to do somethin' to make you feel different. 144 00:06:04,948 --> 00:06:06,700 NARRATOR: After giving up superhot, 145 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:09,203 it hasn't been easy for Zach to strike a balance. 146 00:06:09,203 --> 00:06:11,121 Past demons have crept in. 147 00:06:11,121 --> 00:06:14,875 So now, he and his wife, Anna, have hatched a new plan, 148 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:17,044 a safety valve once a month 149 00:06:17,044 --> 00:06:21,298 that allows Zach one very spicy bender to scratch the itch. 150 00:06:21,298 --> 00:06:23,008 ZACH GOOT: With the burn comin' back into my life, 151 00:06:23,008 --> 00:06:25,469 I can kinda see the worry on my wife's face, 152 00:06:25,469 --> 00:06:27,596 but this is my opportunity 153 00:06:27,596 --> 00:06:30,891 to come back to the chili community a different man. 154 00:06:32,184 --> 00:06:35,395 NARRATOR: While Zach Goot gets ready for a weekend heat bender, 155 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:38,607 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 156 00:06:38,607 --> 00:06:40,817 a select group of his fellow chiliheads 157 00:06:40,817 --> 00:06:44,029 are on the precipice of something much bigger. 158 00:06:44,029 --> 00:06:46,073 [fryer sizzling] 159 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:49,201 Going hotter and more mainstream than ever before. 160 00:06:50,244 --> 00:06:51,370 TROY PRIMEAUX: How y'all doin'? 161 00:06:51,662 --> 00:06:53,956 You nervous for this? [laughs] 162 00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:55,332 AUREA DE GUZMAN: Yes. 163 00:06:55,332 --> 00:06:56,667 JOE GUITH: Welcome. - Thank you. 164 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:58,210 ERIC STEIN: It's good to see you all. - Good seeing you all. 165 00:06:58,210 --> 00:06:59,086 Good morning. 166 00:06:59,086 --> 00:07:00,629 Guys wanna give it a try there? 167 00:07:00,629 --> 00:07:02,214 JOHNNY: Yeah, l-- um, may I? 168 00:07:02,214 --> 00:07:03,632 KEVIN HOUSTON: Absolutely, help yourself. 169 00:07:03,632 --> 00:07:05,843 NARRATOR: The spicy world of pepper people 170 00:07:05,843 --> 00:07:08,262 doesn't often include corporate retreats 171 00:07:08,262 --> 00:07:10,180 with Fortune 500 companies, 172 00:07:10,597 --> 00:07:12,391 but today is the exception. 173 00:07:12,391 --> 00:07:13,642 JOE: We got more chicken coming. 174 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:15,477 I know a few people. [laughs] 175 00:07:15,477 --> 00:07:17,229 Yeah. Yeah. [laughs] 176 00:07:17,229 --> 00:07:19,189 NARRATOR: The executive team from a company 177 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:21,608 called Church's Texas Chicken 178 00:07:21,608 --> 00:07:24,987 invited Troy Primeaux, Jimmy Pickles, and Bobby McFadden 179 00:07:24,987 --> 00:07:28,365 to create new sauces based on their superhots. 180 00:07:28,365 --> 00:07:29,199 Excellent. 181 00:07:30,993 --> 00:07:33,996 We're gonna make, make it sing in a little bit. 182 00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:36,498 JOE: Johnny, it's great, great to meet ya. 183 00:07:36,498 --> 00:07:39,376 I've seen you on my, my son's phone many times. 184 00:07:39,376 --> 00:07:40,586 JOHNNY: Well, that's really cool. 185 00:07:40,586 --> 00:07:43,046 It'd be cool if I could have met him. Little chiliheads are the best. 186 00:07:43,046 --> 00:07:45,424 You know what? Non-school day, maybe I could have convinced my wife. 187 00:07:45,424 --> 00:07:46,800 JOHNNY: Maybe in the future, we'll do that. 188 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,510 - Yes, that would be awesome. - I got a question for ya, 189 00:07:48,510 --> 00:07:50,554 'cause I've been kinda scratching my head for a while, 190 00:07:50,554 --> 00:07:52,848 Like, how did all this happen? 191 00:07:52,848 --> 00:07:54,850 Like, how-how are we standing here-- 192 00:07:54,850 --> 00:07:56,185 - Yeah. - 'Cause I'm curious. 193 00:07:56,185 --> 00:07:57,686 - Well-- You know-- - If you can share that. 194 00:07:57,686 --> 00:07:59,313 Yeah, so I've never seen a brand 195 00:07:59,313 --> 00:08:01,023 where more hot sauce has gone out the door. 196 00:08:01,023 --> 00:08:02,649 I-I kid you not, right? 197 00:08:02,649 --> 00:08:06,111 And-and-and so clearly it was a part of who we are, and yet, 198 00:08:06,695 --> 00:08:09,489 we didn't really have anything signature on the sauce side. 199 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:11,867 I mean, tons of hot sauce, but it's someone else's hot sauce. 200 00:08:12,910 --> 00:08:15,412 So I came back and said, "Listen, we need to figure this out. 201 00:08:15,412 --> 00:08:17,164 We need to do our version of this." 202 00:08:17,164 --> 00:08:19,291 - Brilliant. - And so, the first thing, they're like, 203 00:08:19,291 --> 00:08:21,126 "Well, we've got to go to the source, 204 00:08:21,126 --> 00:08:22,961 we need to start talking to some growers." 205 00:08:22,961 --> 00:08:24,630 Sounds exciting. JOE: Uh, it's very cool. 206 00:08:24,630 --> 00:08:29,051 If you get a corporate company to look at you like that, 207 00:08:29,051 --> 00:08:30,469 that's the dream. 208 00:08:31,178 --> 00:08:32,554 All these pepper growers thinkin', 209 00:08:33,222 --> 00:08:34,765 "That's me, I can do that." 210 00:08:34,765 --> 00:08:37,851 But if you can get the attention of a big corporation, 211 00:08:38,936 --> 00:08:41,647 it's a life-changer, that's it, a life-changer. 212 00:08:42,064 --> 00:08:44,942 We definitely need a, a signature hot sauce, 213 00:08:44,942 --> 00:08:47,277 and we definitely think the door is wide open. 214 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:50,948 TROY: Well, we'll have some fun and see what we come up with. Yeah? 215 00:08:50,948 --> 00:08:52,074 JOE: Awesome. 216 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:59,498 ♪ upbeat dramatic music playing ♪ 217 00:08:59,498 --> 00:09:02,292 NARRATOR: Big ideas can only take you so far. 218 00:09:03,377 --> 00:09:05,462 Opportunity is everything. 219 00:09:07,089 --> 00:09:10,008 And today, our pepper people have an opportunity 220 00:09:10,008 --> 00:09:12,302 to bring their heat to the mainstream, 221 00:09:12,302 --> 00:09:14,638 developing a new fried chicken dipping sauce 222 00:09:14,638 --> 00:09:17,558 that could go worldwide. 223 00:09:17,558 --> 00:09:20,894 We're talking every country in the world. 224 00:09:21,270 --> 00:09:24,064 Maybe Mars if we get that rocket stuff together. 225 00:09:24,898 --> 00:09:26,066 JIMMY: That's the good stuff. 226 00:09:26,567 --> 00:09:27,985 JOHNNY: You know what you're doing, you have a plan, huh? 227 00:09:27,985 --> 00:09:29,069 JIMMY: Absolutely. 228 00:09:29,528 --> 00:09:31,697 NARRATOR: Of late, Jimmy Pickles' reputation 229 00:09:31,697 --> 00:09:33,323 has come under fire, 230 00:09:33,323 --> 00:09:36,326 with accusations about him and his JP Piranha. 231 00:09:36,326 --> 00:09:37,244 Can I tell you something? 232 00:09:37,244 --> 00:09:38,871 I'm trying to figure out how I'm here at all. 233 00:09:38,871 --> 00:09:39,746 So I don't know. 234 00:09:40,706 --> 00:09:42,040 Love Jimmy, but Jimmy thinks 235 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,042 that everybody's out to get his lucky charms. 236 00:09:44,042 --> 00:09:45,544 NARRATOR: Despite the noise, 237 00:09:45,544 --> 00:09:48,714 Jimmy knew he could not hide out and miss this. 238 00:09:48,714 --> 00:09:51,300 So for the occasion, he's asked for a little assistance 239 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:53,802 from the only person he trusts right now. 240 00:09:53,802 --> 00:09:55,262 JOHNNY: How much zest do want me to put in this? 241 00:09:55,262 --> 00:09:57,764 I want approximately three oranges. 242 00:09:57,764 --> 00:09:59,141 Okay, I got one more to go. 243 00:09:59,141 --> 00:10:01,018 JIMMY: Okay, perfect, then we'll go from there. 244 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,855 JIMMY: Big dog? 245 00:10:04,855 --> 00:10:05,772 Because uh, 246 00:10:07,274 --> 00:10:10,110 there's a lot of people I don't trust in the pepper community, 247 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:11,778 but I trust Johnny Scoville. 248 00:10:12,988 --> 00:10:14,698 I value his expertise. 249 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:17,159 After all the reviewing hot sauces, 250 00:10:17,659 --> 00:10:19,828 he is an asset. 251 00:10:21,121 --> 00:10:21,997 Thank you. 252 00:10:21,997 --> 00:10:24,583 My relationship with Johnny Scoville has been great. 253 00:10:24,583 --> 00:10:26,502 We have some unique experiences. 254 00:10:26,502 --> 00:10:29,588 I started my company the same time Johnny started reviewing 255 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:31,798 and we watched each other grow. 256 00:10:32,424 --> 00:10:37,262 This is a JP Piranha, agave, orange dipping sauce. 257 00:10:37,262 --> 00:10:40,140 My approach is actually, I wrote kind of a recipe, 258 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:41,266 spur of the moment, in my head-- 259 00:10:41,642 --> 00:10:42,893 JOHNNY: He's using the force. 260 00:10:42,893 --> 00:10:44,645 JIMMY: So i-i-it's-it's basic. 261 00:10:44,645 --> 00:10:45,687 JOHNNY: You know that's great though, 262 00:10:45,687 --> 00:10:47,481 'cause if you're doing something on a grand scale, 263 00:10:47,481 --> 00:10:48,899 simplicity is your friend. 264 00:10:48,899 --> 00:10:51,777 If I end up doing a deal with Church's Chicken, 265 00:10:51,777 --> 00:10:54,196 it would be a fantastic opportunity. 266 00:10:54,196 --> 00:10:58,075 Actually, not just for me, but for the entire community itself 267 00:10:58,075 --> 00:11:01,537 because they're actually expanding the knowledge of the chili community. 268 00:11:01,537 --> 00:11:05,290 So not only would I win, the entire community would win. 269 00:11:05,290 --> 00:11:08,335 But I mean, ultimately, I would from the deal, 270 00:11:08,335 --> 00:11:09,753 you know, make no mistake. 271 00:11:09,753 --> 00:11:12,130 I feel like, uh, this is meant to be. 272 00:11:12,548 --> 00:11:13,966 BOBBY MCFADDEN: Take 'em out, and shake 'em. 273 00:11:13,966 --> 00:11:15,133 AUREA: Shake 'em. 274 00:11:15,133 --> 00:11:17,845 Shake 'em like you're crazy. There you go. 275 00:11:17,845 --> 00:11:22,015 [container rattling] 276 00:11:23,267 --> 00:11:24,476 Shaky, shaky, shaky. 277 00:11:24,476 --> 00:11:25,644 BOBBY: I'm tryin'. 278 00:11:25,644 --> 00:11:27,938 [container rattling] 279 00:11:27,938 --> 00:11:29,606 TROY: Used to be a bartender or what? 280 00:11:29,606 --> 00:11:32,568 That's what I'm doin', man, serving up garlic cocktails. 281 00:11:33,569 --> 00:11:34,945 NARRATOR: Only a few months ago, 282 00:11:34,945 --> 00:11:37,823 Aurea De Guzman and Bobby McFadden were online friends 283 00:11:37,823 --> 00:11:39,575 on the periphery of the chili world, 284 00:11:40,117 --> 00:11:43,412 but Bobby's superhots and Aurea's hot sauce expertise 285 00:11:43,412 --> 00:11:45,414 have catapulted them here today. 286 00:11:46,206 --> 00:11:48,375 AUREA: Right now, we're confit-ing the garlic, 287 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:51,003 so it's cooking it in a really low temperature. 288 00:11:51,003 --> 00:11:55,007 Also creating my spice blend here, building flavor. 289 00:11:55,424 --> 00:11:58,343 Um, I'm always interested in layers of heat, 290 00:11:58,343 --> 00:12:01,805 so not necessarily just spice in the mouth 291 00:12:01,805 --> 00:12:05,434 but spice in, in terms of, uh, different herbs 292 00:12:05,434 --> 00:12:07,561 and different types of ingredients. 293 00:12:08,145 --> 00:12:09,605 NARRATOR: The sauce they're creating today 294 00:12:09,605 --> 00:12:11,857 incorporates traditional Filipino flavors. 295 00:12:12,274 --> 00:12:13,442 AUREA: Star anise, 296 00:12:13,942 --> 00:12:17,696 Sichuan peppercorn, and cloves. 297 00:12:17,696 --> 00:12:19,615 NARRATOR: With Bobby's Grumpanero, 298 00:12:19,615 --> 00:12:22,576 a pepper that actually looks like a grumpy man. 299 00:12:22,576 --> 00:12:24,953 BOBBY: Flavor of the Grumpanero is sweeter, 300 00:12:24,953 --> 00:12:26,830 and it's got a nice, rounded heat. 301 00:12:26,830 --> 00:12:28,874 It's gonna work good in this recipe. 302 00:12:28,874 --> 00:12:31,585 NARRATOR: But there's one additional ingredient at its core 303 00:12:31,585 --> 00:12:33,754 that truly sets it apart. 304 00:12:33,754 --> 00:12:38,300 This is sort of an, an homage to, uh, my dad. 305 00:12:38,300 --> 00:12:42,513 The base of this recipe is his favorite... 306 00:12:42,513 --> 00:12:43,931 - Yeah. - ...thing to put in food. 307 00:12:43,931 --> 00:12:44,806 So-- 308 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:48,644 Before my father died in 2017, 309 00:12:48,644 --> 00:12:51,188 we shared a certain love for peppers, 310 00:12:51,188 --> 00:12:54,942 and I would always make him a batch of chili oil 311 00:12:54,942 --> 00:12:58,362 that he would put on his rice and, um... 312 00:12:58,779 --> 00:12:59,821 [choking up] 313 00:13:00,948 --> 00:13:04,159 ...and the last time I ever made that, 314 00:13:04,159 --> 00:13:08,163 he had about a-a fourth of a cup left in a jar, 315 00:13:08,872 --> 00:13:11,166 and every time I clean, I clean the fridge, 316 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:13,377 I can't bring myself to throw that out. 317 00:13:14,086 --> 00:13:16,505 And then I get a call from Bobby and he said, 318 00:13:17,214 --> 00:13:20,509 "Hey, so, um, what kind of sauce are we making?" 319 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:25,222 I opened my fridge and to the left door was 320 00:13:25,222 --> 00:13:29,852 the last, um, batch of chili oil 321 00:13:29,852 --> 00:13:31,228 that I ever made for my dad, 322 00:13:31,562 --> 00:13:33,772 and it just came to me, like, 323 00:13:33,772 --> 00:13:37,609 I'm gonna make this into some type of dipping sauce. 324 00:13:37,609 --> 00:13:39,820 You know, hopefully it turns out good. 325 00:13:39,820 --> 00:13:40,946 BOBBY: Yeah. 326 00:13:40,946 --> 00:13:41,989 I think it will. 327 00:13:42,406 --> 00:13:43,240 Means a lot to her. 328 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,658 That's something that was personal to her 329 00:13:44,658 --> 00:13:46,994 that she used to make for her father that he enjoyed, 330 00:13:46,994 --> 00:13:49,413 and I think putting that into the sauce, 331 00:13:49,413 --> 00:13:51,164 you know, I think it was a really good thing 332 00:13:51,164 --> 00:13:53,584 that we went ahead and did that, you know? 333 00:13:53,584 --> 00:13:56,253 I think it was really important. 334 00:13:57,754 --> 00:13:58,630 Oh, my-- 335 00:13:59,298 --> 00:14:00,174 Right? 336 00:14:00,632 --> 00:14:01,842 Smells so good. 337 00:14:03,051 --> 00:14:05,888 NARRATOR: Bobby and Aurea are betting big on her family recipe, 338 00:14:05,888 --> 00:14:08,974 but they're not the only ones here relying on family. 339 00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:11,560 Whenever Troy Primeaux is making sauce, 340 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:13,437 his wife is at his side. 341 00:14:13,437 --> 00:14:15,480 See, she's my assistant, but really, 342 00:14:15,731 --> 00:14:18,358 um, no, I'm her assistant. 343 00:14:18,358 --> 00:14:20,694 That's the truth, that's the truth. [Kara laughs] 344 00:14:20,694 --> 00:14:23,822 She's the halo, and I'm the horns, that's the reoccurring theme. 345 00:14:25,365 --> 00:14:26,200 The peaches. 346 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,161 That's-that's hell of a lot of, uh, faith, ain't it? 347 00:14:29,161 --> 00:14:31,371 I'm typically not a peach person, man, 348 00:14:31,705 --> 00:14:34,708 but, uh, it's just peachy. 349 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:35,626 [laughs] 350 00:14:35,626 --> 00:14:37,503 Peaches go really well with things. 351 00:14:37,503 --> 00:14:41,298 Um, I know people in this-- uh, in our area, they like sweet stuff. 352 00:14:41,298 --> 00:14:42,132 TROY: It's got the sugar. 353 00:14:42,132 --> 00:14:43,842 KARA PRIMEAUX: I think they go great with, with chicken. 354 00:14:43,842 --> 00:14:46,345 So, that's where we are. - It's her idea. [laughs] 355 00:14:46,345 --> 00:14:47,262 It's her idea. 356 00:14:47,763 --> 00:14:51,934 So, if we wanna kick it up a couple of notches, 357 00:14:51,934 --> 00:14:55,437 these are dehydrated 7 Pot Primos I brought 358 00:14:55,437 --> 00:14:58,273 and if you blend this up, you end up with this. 359 00:15:00,442 --> 00:15:01,902 I had to ship it ahead of time 360 00:15:01,902 --> 00:15:05,697 because I, I didn't wanna be on a plane with this 361 00:15:05,697 --> 00:15:10,035 and have something happen in checked luggage or baggage. 362 00:15:10,744 --> 00:15:12,204 Could you imagine a whole plane? 363 00:15:13,288 --> 00:15:15,582 I'd be on the news today, for the wrong reasons. 364 00:15:15,582 --> 00:15:17,376 It's a scorcher, you know? 365 00:15:17,376 --> 00:15:19,294 Should call this thing stupid hot. 366 00:15:19,294 --> 00:15:21,213 [laughs] You know? 367 00:15:21,213 --> 00:15:23,298 Superhot, it's stupid hot. 368 00:15:23,298 --> 00:15:28,554 This is some pepper mash I brought with the 7 Pot Primo. 369 00:15:29,221 --> 00:15:31,348 NARRATOR: Troy refers to himself and his wife Kara 370 00:15:31,348 --> 00:15:33,392 as the halo and the horns. 371 00:15:33,392 --> 00:15:35,227 This stuff is good. 372 00:15:35,227 --> 00:15:37,354 You're talkin' some serious heat there. 373 00:15:37,354 --> 00:15:39,898 NARRATOR: And today, they're using that relationship 374 00:15:39,898 --> 00:15:42,401 to develop a new spin on the 7 Pot 375 00:15:42,401 --> 00:15:45,028 that could make their sauce undeniable. 376 00:15:45,028 --> 00:15:49,658 TROY: I wanted to put five times as much of this in here. 377 00:15:50,659 --> 00:15:52,911 It's killer, man, but Kara's like, 378 00:15:52,911 --> 00:15:54,955 "No, no, it's too much, please." 379 00:15:54,955 --> 00:15:57,416 Some of the best things are made from a push-pull, 380 00:15:57,416 --> 00:16:00,878 when somebody challenges you, and I'm always gonna wanna push it, 381 00:16:01,545 --> 00:16:04,965 maybe-maybe a little further than I do with the heat, 382 00:16:04,965 --> 00:16:06,550 and she hones me back in. 383 00:16:06,550 --> 00:16:08,051 I'd like to put more of it, 384 00:16:08,051 --> 00:16:10,387 but right now we're startin' with a base. 385 00:16:10,387 --> 00:16:14,433 And I think this is a great opportunity, you know. 386 00:16:15,142 --> 00:16:17,644 If we would have more financial security, 387 00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:21,565 then Kara would be happier and our family would be happier. 388 00:16:22,065 --> 00:16:24,109 [knocks on table] Knock on wood. 389 00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:26,153 That's lookin' pretty good. 390 00:16:26,653 --> 00:16:27,779 A little nervous. 391 00:16:28,530 --> 00:16:29,489 Feel better now. 392 00:16:35,204 --> 00:16:37,873 [rain pattering] 393 00:16:38,332 --> 00:16:40,083 ZACH: Hello, beautiful lady. 394 00:16:40,709 --> 00:16:42,419 - Hi. - How are you? 395 00:16:42,419 --> 00:16:43,795 Good, how are you doing? 396 00:16:43,795 --> 00:16:45,255 I'm excited to get into it tonight. 397 00:16:45,255 --> 00:16:47,799 This'll be the spiciest I've went in a while. 398 00:16:48,175 --> 00:16:50,052 NARRATOR: After retiring from the chili community 399 00:16:50,052 --> 00:16:52,971 to focus on family, Zach Goot has struggled 400 00:16:52,971 --> 00:16:55,849 with the absence of superhot in his life. 401 00:16:55,849 --> 00:16:58,060 The Zach spicy hall pass. 402 00:16:58,060 --> 00:16:59,520 Hey, it's better than goin' around 403 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,898 finding needles and straws and rolled up dollar bills. 404 00:17:02,898 --> 00:17:05,067 It's a healthier hall pass. 405 00:17:05,067 --> 00:17:06,735 ZACH: It's a healthier hall pass. 406 00:17:06,735 --> 00:17:07,861 NARRATOR: To find balance, 407 00:17:07,861 --> 00:17:11,323 his wife Anna has agreed to a weekend dive into heat, 408 00:17:11,323 --> 00:17:14,409 a temporary binge, that along with AA, 409 00:17:14,409 --> 00:17:16,745 might help him avoid his darker demons. 410 00:17:17,371 --> 00:17:18,747 ZACH: I have to be honest, 411 00:17:18,747 --> 00:17:21,667 I had a really bad cocaine problem, 412 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:26,755 right around the time that I entered the spicy community. 413 00:17:26,755 --> 00:17:29,633 Oh buddy. [laughs] 414 00:17:29,967 --> 00:17:31,051 BRANDON COLLINS: Look what I got. 415 00:17:31,051 --> 00:17:33,303 I was wondering when you were gonna bring that. 416 00:17:33,303 --> 00:17:36,056 [sighs] Spicy. 417 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:39,643 I'm so proud to say that I haven't touched cocaine 418 00:17:39,643 --> 00:17:40,769 in two and a half years. 419 00:17:40,769 --> 00:17:45,941 Once I realized eating spicy stuff, it was the same effect as doin' my drugs, 420 00:17:46,817 --> 00:17:50,654 creates serotonin bursts or euphoria, 421 00:17:50,654 --> 00:17:54,241 and once I-- once I've realized and figured that out, it was over. 422 00:17:55,325 --> 00:17:57,536 BRANDON: We're about to be in a lot of pain. 423 00:17:57,536 --> 00:17:58,829 Cheers, bro. - Cheers, buddy. 424 00:17:59,288 --> 00:18:01,081 [crunching] BRANDON: Mm. 425 00:18:03,417 --> 00:18:05,294 Mm, I wanna try these Carolina Reaper peanuts. 426 00:18:07,796 --> 00:18:09,548 So, these are ghost pepper ranch. 427 00:18:10,174 --> 00:18:11,300 Wow, that's good. 428 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:13,927 NARRATOR: They say whatever happens in Vegas 429 00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:15,470 stays in Vegas. 430 00:18:15,470 --> 00:18:17,055 ZACH: My mouth's on fire! 431 00:18:17,055 --> 00:18:19,099 NARRATOR: Well, the same rule applies here. 432 00:18:19,099 --> 00:18:20,434 Happy tears, we call it. 433 00:18:20,893 --> 00:18:22,603 NARRATOR: Except for instead of drugs, 434 00:18:22,603 --> 00:18:24,479 it's weird hot things. 435 00:18:24,479 --> 00:18:26,523 Join me as we slowly descend into madness. 436 00:18:26,523 --> 00:18:27,357 Cheers. 437 00:18:27,357 --> 00:18:28,734 [crunching] 438 00:18:28,734 --> 00:18:31,320 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 439 00:18:32,237 --> 00:18:33,989 [growls] 440 00:18:34,573 --> 00:18:36,200 ♪ electronic dance music playing ♪ 441 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,492 ♪ Break it down ♪ 442 00:18:37,492 --> 00:18:41,622 ♪ 443 00:18:42,623 --> 00:18:43,749 BRANDON: This is the lit. 444 00:18:45,459 --> 00:18:48,212 Oh. [laughs] 445 00:18:48,212 --> 00:18:49,171 That's hot. 446 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,340 ZACH: Those are the plasma flakes. 447 00:18:52,090 --> 00:18:53,550 Oh, man. 448 00:18:54,426 --> 00:18:56,261 Goddammit. [claps hands] 449 00:18:56,261 --> 00:18:59,598 ♪ electronic dance music continues ♪ 450 00:18:59,598 --> 00:19:01,558 [maniacal laughter] 451 00:19:05,145 --> 00:19:06,396 ZACH: Eating spicy stuff, 452 00:19:06,396 --> 00:19:09,983 even that can turn into... problematic. 453 00:19:10,526 --> 00:19:11,401 Ah! 454 00:19:11,985 --> 00:19:13,237 I got it in my eye. 455 00:19:14,071 --> 00:19:15,989 I got superhot pow in my eye. 456 00:19:17,074 --> 00:19:22,204 You know, a healthy addiction can turn into an un-unhealthy addiction. 457 00:19:23,455 --> 00:19:24,289 Can I be honest? 458 00:19:24,289 --> 00:19:27,835 Even though I got it in my eye, I like it. 459 00:19:28,377 --> 00:19:29,378 Is that weird? 460 00:19:29,795 --> 00:19:33,757 The burn around my eye even is addicting. [laughs] 461 00:19:34,174 --> 00:19:35,509 This is living. BRANDON: You know? 462 00:19:35,509 --> 00:19:36,593 ZACH: This is living right. 463 00:19:38,178 --> 00:19:41,139 NARRATOR: Zach's spicy bender is just kicking off, 464 00:19:41,139 --> 00:19:43,851 a momentary madness that might deliver some balance 465 00:19:43,851 --> 00:19:45,602 to his life for now. 466 00:19:45,602 --> 00:19:48,522 But while he travels deeper down the rabbit hole, 467 00:19:49,898 --> 00:19:51,900 his fellow pepper people are working 468 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:54,319 to tone down superhot extremes 469 00:19:54,319 --> 00:19:56,697 to bring a milder heat to the mainstream. 470 00:19:57,281 --> 00:19:58,198 Just dip. 471 00:19:58,657 --> 00:19:59,533 Alright. 472 00:19:59,533 --> 00:20:00,701 Mm. Cheers. 473 00:20:00,701 --> 00:20:02,369 [Kara laughs] 474 00:20:03,328 --> 00:20:06,790 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 475 00:20:11,795 --> 00:20:12,796 Needs more heat. 476 00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:16,425 Needs a little bit more heat, I think. 477 00:20:16,925 --> 00:20:19,386 JIMMY: We're gonna reduce it, that's all we're doing. 478 00:20:19,386 --> 00:20:22,472 Take a spoon, uh, be careful of temperature. 479 00:20:22,472 --> 00:20:23,473 How we lookin'? 480 00:20:25,058 --> 00:20:26,810 I may have to add a little bit more heat. 481 00:20:28,937 --> 00:20:30,105 The only issue is the thickness, 482 00:20:30,105 --> 00:20:32,191 if you can get the thickness right, that's ridiculous. 483 00:20:32,816 --> 00:20:35,444 I mean, really. JIMMY: I think we got a solid product. 484 00:20:35,444 --> 00:20:36,445 JOHNNY: Wow. 485 00:20:37,404 --> 00:20:39,364 Johnny and these two guns. 486 00:20:40,949 --> 00:20:42,242 ♪ 487 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:44,286 [crunching] 488 00:20:44,286 --> 00:20:46,330 Mm, that's yummy. [laughs] 489 00:20:46,330 --> 00:20:47,247 [Bobby laughs] 490 00:20:48,498 --> 00:20:49,458 It is good. 491 00:20:50,501 --> 00:20:51,376 How's the spice? 492 00:20:52,127 --> 00:20:53,086 It's good. 493 00:20:53,629 --> 00:20:55,255 - Creeps up on you. - Mm-hmm. 494 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:57,299 That spice, ooh, that's good. 495 00:20:59,092 --> 00:21:00,427 Once the heat kicks in. 496 00:21:00,886 --> 00:21:01,929 AUREA: Yep. - It's good. 497 00:21:03,472 --> 00:21:05,599 NARRATOR: As each grower finishes up their sauce, 498 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:09,436 they prepare a sample for the Church's exec's blind taste test. 499 00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:13,607 That's right, no pitching your sauce here, no razzle-dazzle, 500 00:21:13,607 --> 00:21:17,027 no little picture of sauces on top of volcanoes, 501 00:21:17,027 --> 00:21:18,529 now it's time to taste. 502 00:21:19,071 --> 00:21:20,948 I'm glad we're at the end of this phase 503 00:21:20,948 --> 00:21:22,449 'cause I'm ready to eat. 504 00:21:22,449 --> 00:21:24,243 We've been talking about this for a while. 505 00:21:24,243 --> 00:21:27,246 So we really need to be going. 506 00:21:27,246 --> 00:21:28,080 Thank you. 507 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,540 We're super excited [overlapping chatter] 508 00:21:29,540 --> 00:21:30,916 TROY: And I'll say, I'll say, look, 509 00:21:30,916 --> 00:21:34,336 if it's not what you expected or what you wanted, 510 00:21:34,837 --> 00:21:37,172 I hope you enjoy it, and we had fun. 511 00:21:37,172 --> 00:21:38,173 Alright. KARA: Yeah. Thank you. 512 00:21:38,173 --> 00:21:39,716 TROY: Thank you. NATALIA FRANCO: Alright, guys. 513 00:21:40,342 --> 00:21:43,345 NARRATOR: Troy's Peach Primo, Jimmy's Orange Agave, 514 00:21:43,345 --> 00:21:46,265 and Bobby and Aurea's chili oil-inspired sauce 515 00:21:46,265 --> 00:21:48,642 all make their way from the cook station 516 00:21:48,642 --> 00:21:50,143 to the executive table. 517 00:21:51,979 --> 00:21:52,813 NATALIA: Okay. 518 00:21:52,813 --> 00:21:54,064 JOE: Alright, should we get some chicken goin'? 519 00:21:54,064 --> 00:21:55,107 ERIC: Let's do it. KEVIN: Let's do it. 520 00:21:55,107 --> 00:21:55,941 JOE: Okay. 521 00:21:55,941 --> 00:21:59,111 NATALIA: Okay, let's go for it. JOE: Mm, interesting. 522 00:21:59,695 --> 00:22:01,238 NARRATOR: It's now the moment of truth. 523 00:22:01,238 --> 00:22:02,698 - It sneaks up on you. - Is that that back burn? 524 00:22:02,698 --> 00:22:04,867 That is the back burn, yeah, absolutely. 525 00:22:04,867 --> 00:22:07,286 NARRATOR: To evaluate what these superhots can do 526 00:22:07,286 --> 00:22:11,540 and how they might bring next level heat to millions. 527 00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:13,417 I'm gettin' a little bit of the burn, right now. 528 00:22:13,417 --> 00:22:14,251 [group laughs] 529 00:22:14,251 --> 00:22:15,419 KEVIN: It's a nice build. ERIC: Yep. 530 00:22:16,128 --> 00:22:17,212 JOE: That is delicious. 531 00:22:21,550 --> 00:22:23,385 [rain pattering] 532 00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:26,805 Ah, I'm nervous but I'm excited, you know? 533 00:22:26,805 --> 00:22:28,599 You know what I mean. BRANDON: I know what you mean. 534 00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:30,601 ZACH: Nervous but excited at the same time. 535 00:22:30,601 --> 00:22:32,936 This is gonna be one hell of a ride. 536 00:22:33,979 --> 00:22:36,356 NARRATOR: When Zach Goot stepped away from superhot, 537 00:22:36,356 --> 00:22:38,317 it was to find equilibrium, 538 00:22:38,317 --> 00:22:41,653 but unfortunately, it opened the door to old addictions. 539 00:22:42,821 --> 00:22:44,531 Alright, where did the extension-- 540 00:22:44,531 --> 00:22:46,033 Oh, there's the extension cord right there. 541 00:22:46,491 --> 00:22:47,910 Awesome. BRANDON: Alright, bud. 542 00:22:49,036 --> 00:22:50,537 Let's plug the phone in. 543 00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:52,789 NARRATOR: Hoping to find a happy middle ground for now, 544 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:55,959 he's spending a weekend down the rabbit hole. 545 00:22:55,959 --> 00:22:56,877 ZACH: Go time, buddy. 546 00:22:57,503 --> 00:22:59,213 NARRATOR: Which means a return 547 00:22:59,213 --> 00:23:01,673 to his Texas Hot Spot livestream. 548 00:23:01,673 --> 00:23:02,508 ZACH: You ready? 549 00:23:02,883 --> 00:23:04,009 Yeah. 550 00:23:04,009 --> 00:23:05,260 [Zach grunts] 551 00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:09,139 What's up, everybody, welcome to The Texas Hot Spot. 552 00:23:09,139 --> 00:23:13,060 My name is Brandon Collins, and of course, you know who this is. 553 00:23:13,060 --> 00:23:16,230 - Zachary Goot. - Our boy, Gooter. 554 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:20,192 We're goin' for the world record of Un-bear-able Ones. 555 00:23:20,651 --> 00:23:22,277 And eatin' about 12 of them 556 00:23:22,611 --> 00:23:24,571 'cause right now the record is 10. 557 00:23:24,947 --> 00:23:27,324 Right before getting into the challenge, 558 00:23:27,908 --> 00:23:31,995 there's a zone, there's a place that I have to go. 559 00:23:31,995 --> 00:23:36,333 You have to... go somewhere 560 00:23:36,333 --> 00:23:38,335 that we call your happy place. 561 00:23:38,836 --> 00:23:40,504 Are you ready? - [laughs] Yeah. 562 00:23:40,504 --> 00:23:41,547 - Cheers. - Cheers. 563 00:23:41,547 --> 00:23:42,506 First one down the hatch, 564 00:23:42,506 --> 00:23:43,507 here we go. - Let's go. 565 00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:47,386 I'm so fuckin' happy right now. 566 00:23:47,386 --> 00:23:48,220 [Brandon laughs] 567 00:23:48,220 --> 00:23:49,638 I don't feel nothin'. 568 00:23:49,638 --> 00:23:52,432 My happy place started when I was really young. 569 00:23:52,432 --> 00:23:54,518 I made this little happy place that I would go to 570 00:23:54,518 --> 00:23:56,478 where everything was okay. 571 00:23:56,478 --> 00:23:58,313 I didn't have to listen to my mom screaming 572 00:23:58,313 --> 00:23:59,189 or gettin' beaten up. 573 00:23:59,189 --> 00:24:02,276 I didn't have to listen to my stepfather 574 00:24:02,276 --> 00:24:03,819 or my father being drunk. 575 00:24:03,819 --> 00:24:05,487 And I used it throughout the Army, 576 00:24:05,863 --> 00:24:08,532 and I used it when I was in Iraq both times, 577 00:24:09,157 --> 00:24:10,909 and I use it when I eat chilies. 578 00:24:10,909 --> 00:24:12,995 - Cheers, guys. - Cheers, bud, number six. 579 00:24:13,829 --> 00:24:15,163 Number seven. 580 00:24:15,163 --> 00:24:16,790 BRANDON: Yeah, I really gotta focus right now, 581 00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:17,749 I can feel it. 582 00:24:17,749 --> 00:24:19,585 ZACH: My tummy is not happy with me right now. 583 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,671 NARRATOR: For Zach Goot, there's no telling what this challenge 584 00:24:22,671 --> 00:24:24,631 or the weeks ahead have in store. 585 00:24:24,631 --> 00:24:27,050 Uh-oh. [rain pattering] 586 00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:28,802 [Zach slams table] - Ah. 587 00:24:28,802 --> 00:24:30,888 NARRATOR: He might just break the world record. 588 00:24:30,888 --> 00:24:31,847 BRANDON: Doin' number 12. 589 00:24:33,307 --> 00:24:34,683 Oh, shit, Zach. 590 00:24:34,683 --> 00:24:35,726 [retches] 591 00:24:35,726 --> 00:24:39,354 NARRATOR: Or... you know... maybe not. 592 00:24:39,354 --> 00:24:41,440 BRANDON: Damn, Zach, damn! 593 00:24:43,859 --> 00:24:45,944 ZACH: All I gotta do is go to my happy place 594 00:24:46,695 --> 00:24:48,739 and I'm not scared of anything, 595 00:24:49,406 --> 00:24:51,158 I'm ready to take anything on 596 00:24:51,617 --> 00:24:54,161 because I'm huge in my happy place. 597 00:24:54,161 --> 00:24:57,289 I am indestructible in my happy place, 598 00:24:57,289 --> 00:25:01,335 but I have to freak out and sweat and breathe heavy to get there. 599 00:25:01,335 --> 00:25:03,420 And so eating spicy stuff, 600 00:25:03,420 --> 00:25:05,088 I think that'll always be a thing for me. 601 00:25:06,673 --> 00:25:08,342 [pained breathing] 602 00:25:08,342 --> 00:25:10,302 ZACH: Feeling like I might have diabetes now. 603 00:25:10,302 --> 00:25:11,970 [Brandon coughing] 604 00:25:12,888 --> 00:25:14,139 ZACH: I do need some milk. 605 00:25:14,515 --> 00:25:16,642 NARRATOR: Whether it's superhot, addiction, 606 00:25:16,642 --> 00:25:19,436 or balancing family, one thing seems clear, 607 00:25:19,853 --> 00:25:22,856 the road ahead won't be without its bumps and bruises. 608 00:25:23,357 --> 00:25:26,109 Spice, with all its allure and pain, 609 00:25:26,109 --> 00:25:27,778 is Zach's cross to bear. 610 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:30,948 I wanna come take a look at this pile of chocolate. 611 00:25:30,948 --> 00:25:32,115 BRANDON: You don't wanna see it. 612 00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:33,534 ZACH: Oh, yeah, I do. 613 00:25:34,451 --> 00:25:36,286 That is disgusting. 614 00:25:36,286 --> 00:25:37,788 [Brandon chuckles] 615 00:25:38,539 --> 00:25:40,123 NARRATOR: Zach Goot is walking the line 616 00:25:40,123 --> 00:25:41,959 between superhot and sanity. 617 00:25:42,334 --> 00:25:45,629 Meanwhile, fellow chiliheads Aurea and Bobby, 618 00:25:45,629 --> 00:25:47,256 are riding a different kind of high, 619 00:25:47,589 --> 00:25:51,385 after creating their very own superhot dipping sauce. 620 00:25:52,386 --> 00:25:54,429 BOBBY: I'm really happy with your recipe. 621 00:25:54,429 --> 00:25:55,973 I think it turned out pretty good. 622 00:25:55,973 --> 00:25:57,140 AUREA: That was surreal. 623 00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:58,183 Yeah. 624 00:25:58,642 --> 00:26:00,853 I've always felt like we were the outliers 625 00:26:00,853 --> 00:26:04,273 and just the observers, the watchers, the audience, 626 00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:07,067 and now we're, we're part of it. 627 00:26:09,361 --> 00:26:11,280 Hopefully something comes out of this, you know? 628 00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:14,366 Hopefully a huge contract with Church's Chicken, you know? 629 00:26:15,117 --> 00:26:19,079 I could use a-a break, you know? Life's been not the easiest, so-- 630 00:26:19,663 --> 00:26:21,248 That would be-- - If not that, the memories, man. 631 00:26:21,248 --> 00:26:23,375 Yeah, if nothing else, this was just 632 00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:26,170 a great experience, you know, doing this stuff with you. 633 00:26:26,170 --> 00:26:28,088 First time I ever saw a hummingbird was today. 634 00:26:28,547 --> 00:26:29,923 Oh. BOBBY: Yeah. 635 00:26:29,923 --> 00:26:31,341 AUREA: Even if you put out feeders, 636 00:26:31,341 --> 00:26:32,676 no hummingbirds come to your house? 637 00:26:33,218 --> 00:26:34,761 [phone rings] BOBBY: I'm getting a phone call. 638 00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:37,222 CALLER [over phone]: Hello? - Hello? 639 00:26:37,222 --> 00:26:39,266 - Uh, Bobby? - Yes, this is Bobby. 640 00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:43,395 BOBBY: Oh, hi, how are you? 641 00:26:48,734 --> 00:26:51,862 Oh, yeah, I'm sure we can turn around, r-right? 642 00:26:52,613 --> 00:26:54,907 A-A-Au-Aurea, we can go? 643 00:26:54,907 --> 00:26:56,783 AUREA: Where are we going? - They want us to meet them. 644 00:26:57,409 --> 00:26:58,785 Yeah, that's fine, we can do that. 645 00:26:59,494 --> 00:27:02,539 NATALIA [over phone]: Okay, great, so I'll see you in a little bit then? 646 00:27:02,539 --> 00:27:04,833 BOBBY: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll head, we'll head right over. 647 00:27:05,292 --> 00:27:06,877 NATALIA: Okay, perfect, that's good. - Alright. Alright. 648 00:27:06,877 --> 00:27:07,878 NATALIA: Thank you. - Thank you. 649 00:27:07,878 --> 00:27:09,463 NATALIA: Okay, bye. - Alright, bye-bye. 650 00:27:10,797 --> 00:27:12,674 - What? - Uh... [laughs] 651 00:27:12,674 --> 00:27:14,885 - What. - What? [laughing] 652 00:27:14,885 --> 00:27:16,345 What? - What? 653 00:27:17,429 --> 00:27:19,473 What? - What just happened? 654 00:27:20,849 --> 00:27:23,018 Wow, okay, so apparently they want us to meet them 655 00:27:23,018 --> 00:27:24,186 and see what's going on. 656 00:27:24,186 --> 00:27:26,855 I-I don't know what they want. [laughs] 657 00:27:26,855 --> 00:27:28,815 ♪ playful upbeat music playing ♪ 658 00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:32,110 ♪ 659 00:27:32,110 --> 00:27:33,403 AUREA: I guess we're turning back. 660 00:27:33,403 --> 00:27:38,867 ♪ 661 00:27:38,867 --> 00:27:40,661 Hope we don't miss our flight. [laughs] 662 00:27:40,661 --> 00:27:42,871 I know. [laughs] I hope we don't miss our flight. 663 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:46,583 We can't, we can't-- We have to go, this is-- 664 00:27:47,209 --> 00:27:48,502 AUREA: My hands are sweaty. 665 00:27:49,253 --> 00:27:50,587 BOBBY: My hands are sweaty, too. 666 00:27:57,177 --> 00:28:00,305 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 667 00:28:00,305 --> 00:28:01,348 AUREA: Okay. - Okay. 668 00:28:01,849 --> 00:28:03,767 AUREA: The anticipation is killing me. 669 00:28:06,812 --> 00:28:08,772 NARRATOR: Like we said way back at the start, 670 00:28:08,772 --> 00:28:11,400 a pepper can be a lottery ticket. 671 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,234 BOBBY: Ready? 672 00:28:12,234 --> 00:28:15,696 NARRATOR: Well, Bobby and Aurea might just have the winning numbers, 673 00:28:15,696 --> 00:28:18,782 earning a sit-down with a Fortune 500 company. 674 00:28:18,782 --> 00:28:20,284 BOBBY: Hello, everyone. [laughs] 675 00:28:20,284 --> 00:28:21,785 NATALIA: Hi. JOE: Hey, guys. 676 00:28:21,785 --> 00:28:23,745 BOBBY: That was an unexpected phone call. [laughs] 677 00:28:23,745 --> 00:28:25,038 Thanks for comin' in on short notice. 678 00:28:25,038 --> 00:28:26,415 - Oh, yeah. No problem, guys. - Appreciate it. 679 00:28:26,415 --> 00:28:27,291 How are ya? 680 00:28:27,291 --> 00:28:28,333 NATALIA: Good, good. JOE: Very good. 681 00:28:29,626 --> 00:28:31,587 Well, listen, thanks again for comin' in. 682 00:28:31,587 --> 00:28:34,548 Um, you know, as we said, we were really looking 683 00:28:34,548 --> 00:28:37,634 for a new sauce to really elevate the brand. 684 00:28:37,634 --> 00:28:40,095 And specifically what we were looking at 685 00:28:40,429 --> 00:28:44,641 were things that would really work for the brand, 686 00:28:44,641 --> 00:28:47,978 but also something that we felt we could actually execute. 687 00:28:47,978 --> 00:28:50,105 BOBBY: Okay. - So it was a difficult decision 688 00:28:50,105 --> 00:28:52,232 because everybody has been great 689 00:28:52,232 --> 00:28:53,901 and we've really enjoyed the process. 690 00:28:54,860 --> 00:28:58,113 That said, we're happy to say that we felt 691 00:28:58,113 --> 00:29:01,283 that your sauce had the best fit for us. 692 00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:03,744 Shut up. I'm sorry. BOBBY: Are you serious? 693 00:29:03,744 --> 00:29:04,953 I didn't mean to say shut up. 694 00:29:04,953 --> 00:29:07,414 [all laugh] 695 00:29:08,582 --> 00:29:11,376 JOE: So, so we're really excited... - Oh, my God. 696 00:29:11,376 --> 00:29:13,170 JOE: ...to continue the conversation with you... 697 00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:15,339 Wow. JOE: ...about what the next steps 698 00:29:15,339 --> 00:29:16,965 would be in the process. 699 00:29:16,965 --> 00:29:17,966 Okay, yeah. 700 00:29:17,966 --> 00:29:19,676 AUREA: This is big. - This is awesome. 701 00:29:19,676 --> 00:29:20,928 This is really cool, guys. 702 00:29:20,928 --> 00:29:24,097 We were questioning our place in this whole thing, 703 00:29:24,097 --> 00:29:25,182 this whole time. - So... 704 00:29:25,891 --> 00:29:27,643 Well, I guess the question's been answered now. 705 00:29:27,643 --> 00:29:28,519 BOBBY: Yeah. [chuckles] 706 00:29:28,894 --> 00:29:31,438 - Thank you so much for giving us a yes. - I don't know what else to say. 707 00:29:31,438 --> 00:29:32,606 Thank you so much. AUREA: Thank you. 708 00:29:32,606 --> 00:29:33,899 JOE: Thank you. Alright, thank you, guys. 709 00:29:33,899 --> 00:29:35,442 - Thank you. You get a hug. - We look forward to working with ya. 710 00:29:35,442 --> 00:29:36,485 Alright. Yeah. 711 00:29:36,902 --> 00:29:39,363 Bring it on in. Alright. Thank you. NATALIA: Big hugs. Congratulations. 712 00:29:39,363 --> 00:29:40,489 Congratulations, Aurea. 713 00:29:40,489 --> 00:29:41,782 NATALIA: Congratulations. BOBBY: Thank you so much, guys. 714 00:29:41,782 --> 00:29:43,867 This has been the recipe I've been making 715 00:29:43,867 --> 00:29:45,494 for my-my late father. 716 00:29:45,994 --> 00:29:47,329 His name was George. 717 00:29:48,205 --> 00:29:50,707 Did you know that the founder of Church's Chicken 718 00:29:50,707 --> 00:29:52,793 is George Church? 719 00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:55,128 It's meant to be. 720 00:29:55,629 --> 00:29:58,841 I made it for my dad, who passed away, and it's-- 721 00:29:58,841 --> 00:29:59,758 JOE: What was his name? 722 00:29:59,758 --> 00:30:00,968 George. JOE: George. 723 00:30:00,968 --> 00:30:02,219 ERIC: Wow, George Church's-- 724 00:30:02,219 --> 00:30:03,220 JOE: George's sauce. 725 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:04,721 ERIC: Yeah, George's sauce. - George's sauce. 726 00:30:04,721 --> 00:30:06,265 AUREA: George's sauce. ERIC: Oh, there you go. 727 00:30:06,473 --> 00:30:08,934 Imagine, he is watching you, right now. 728 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,979 AUREA: What it means to me when I say, 729 00:30:11,979 --> 00:30:15,440 I get to work with a-a big, nation-wide company, 730 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,570 I can devote more time towards taking care of my mom. 731 00:30:19,570 --> 00:30:22,823 I can help my sister, who just got accepted to Harvard. 732 00:30:22,823 --> 00:30:24,408 I'm a proud big sister. 733 00:30:25,117 --> 00:30:27,870 The only reason she's not going is because we couldn't afford it. 734 00:30:27,870 --> 00:30:30,581 I can't wait to drive down to Atlanta from Chicago. 735 00:30:30,581 --> 00:30:33,584 Oh, oh, I think we can fly you down. 736 00:30:33,959 --> 00:30:37,087 I know money doesn't, you know, create happiness, 737 00:30:37,087 --> 00:30:39,756 but it definitely would make it easier 738 00:30:39,756 --> 00:30:42,092 for us to, to find what makes us happy. 739 00:30:44,678 --> 00:30:46,889 Do I jump? What do I do? [laughs] 740 00:30:46,889 --> 00:30:51,393 Listen, I started out as a guy just growing peppers 741 00:30:51,393 --> 00:30:52,769 and teaching people to grow. 742 00:30:53,353 --> 00:30:56,940 I love that, but if I can do something with this 743 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:58,692 that I can live off of, 744 00:30:59,109 --> 00:31:00,861 that is definitely a dream of mine. 745 00:31:00,861 --> 00:31:02,696 Guess we get to hang out some more, huh? 746 00:31:02,696 --> 00:31:04,656 [laughs] 747 00:31:04,656 --> 00:31:05,991 Can't get rid of me that easy. [laughs] 748 00:31:05,991 --> 00:31:07,242 [softly] Oh, my God. 749 00:31:07,659 --> 00:31:09,203 NARRATOR: When someone gets a big break, 750 00:31:09,203 --> 00:31:12,664 it usually means someone else goes home sad, alone, 751 00:31:12,664 --> 00:31:14,416 staring at their wall for hours. 752 00:31:15,083 --> 00:31:17,794 In this case, both Jimmy Pickles and Troy Primeaux 753 00:31:17,794 --> 00:31:20,714 missed out on the Church's payday, for now at least. 754 00:31:21,423 --> 00:31:24,968 Church's reps asked to explore other possibilities with both. 755 00:31:25,344 --> 00:31:28,347 But despite that potential, they leave empty-handed. 756 00:31:29,056 --> 00:31:30,766 Everybody wants to be a winner but, you know, 757 00:31:30,766 --> 00:31:32,768 there's no losers in this thing, you know? 758 00:31:35,103 --> 00:31:37,147 It's-- Just being involved in it 759 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,400 is-is-is awesome, you know? 760 00:31:41,777 --> 00:31:44,154 NARRATOR: I said it before and I'll say it again, 761 00:31:44,154 --> 00:31:46,740 the pepper business is pretty cutthroat. 762 00:31:47,157 --> 00:31:49,409 But while the growers head home to regroup... 763 00:31:49,409 --> 00:31:50,827 I'm just floating. 764 00:31:50,827 --> 00:31:52,788 [laughs] AUREA: I know, my heart's still racing. 765 00:31:52,788 --> 00:31:54,873 NARRATOR: ...chili kingmaker Johnny Scoville, 766 00:31:54,873 --> 00:31:56,625 has other things on his mind. 767 00:31:56,917 --> 00:31:59,837 There's gonna be one that holds their hand victorious 768 00:31:59,837 --> 00:32:02,714 and the other one's gonna be checked off that list. 769 00:32:02,714 --> 00:32:05,259 NARRATOR: He's discovered a pantheon of contenders 770 00:32:05,259 --> 00:32:07,261 for the hottest pepper on Earth, 771 00:32:07,553 --> 00:32:10,264 the hottest of superhot that just might redefine 772 00:32:10,264 --> 00:32:12,307 the very notion of heat. 773 00:32:12,724 --> 00:32:15,769 But as of now, few questions have been answered. 774 00:32:16,270 --> 00:32:18,230 Well, that's all about to change. 775 00:32:18,647 --> 00:32:21,567 All of these superhots will soon be under one roof 776 00:32:21,567 --> 00:32:23,360 for the very first time. 777 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,737 And before all is said and done, 778 00:32:25,737 --> 00:32:29,491 we'll find out just how hot they truly are. 779 00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:32,327 JOHNNY: I know we can do it, I know we can put the, 780 00:32:33,996 --> 00:32:35,414 the discussion to rest. 781 00:32:35,414 --> 00:32:38,500 To me, that's almost like the perfect crescendo, 782 00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:41,086 that's the perfect way to culminate this whole thing 783 00:32:41,753 --> 00:32:42,921 is I'm gonna find it. 784 00:32:43,547 --> 00:32:44,548 I'm just going to. 785 00:32:45,299 --> 00:32:46,884 [flames sizzling] 786 00:32:46,884 --> 00:32:51,013 ♪ dramatic theme music playing ♪ 787 00:32:51,013 --> 00:32:54,892 ♪ 788 00:33:05,444 --> 00:33:09,072 ♪ 789 00:33:09,072 --> 00:33:10,574 ♪ music stops ♪ 790 00:33:14,995 --> 00:33:16,914 [whistling]