1 00:00:01,419 --> 00:00:04,506 ♪ tense music playing ♪ 2 00:00:06,091 --> 00:00:08,718 [carriage rattling] 3 00:00:09,928 --> 00:00:13,014 NARRATOR: Last night was a long night 4 00:00:13,014 --> 00:00:15,141 for chili kingmaker Johnny Scoville. 5 00:00:15,475 --> 00:00:17,811 I don't know what the truth is, and that's the problem. 6 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:20,355 NARRATOR: Allegations that Jimmy Pickle stole 7 00:00:20,355 --> 00:00:23,608 the JP Piranha swept across the chili world, 8 00:00:23,608 --> 00:00:25,944 and Johnny doom scrolled till dawn. 9 00:00:25,944 --> 00:00:28,613 Seriously, he read, like, every comment. 10 00:00:28,613 --> 00:00:31,449 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 11 00:00:31,449 --> 00:00:33,326 With both men in the same city, 12 00:00:33,326 --> 00:00:36,204 Johnny demanded a face-to-face meeting right away 13 00:00:36,204 --> 00:00:37,163 to clear the air. 14 00:00:41,084 --> 00:00:42,252 Not like he's gonna be. 15 00:00:42,711 --> 00:00:45,297 I'm-I'm ready. This is something that needs to happen. 16 00:00:45,714 --> 00:00:46,798 I need answers. 17 00:00:46,798 --> 00:00:48,842 I've worked really hard, I've never had a misstep. 18 00:00:48,842 --> 00:00:50,969 I've got a pretty good reputation in the chili world. 19 00:00:51,303 --> 00:00:53,179 JIMMY PICKLES: Johnny Scoville. 20 00:00:53,179 --> 00:00:55,724 He needs to convince me big time. 21 00:00:55,724 --> 00:00:59,477 Make this make sense or I'm done, I'm done with Jimmy, 22 00:00:59,477 --> 00:01:01,730 and I'm gonna treat him like Paulie from Goodfellas, 23 00:01:01,730 --> 00:01:03,189 I'm gonna turn my back on him. 24 00:01:03,690 --> 00:01:05,567 You got a pepper that's hot. JIMMY: Yeah. 25 00:01:05,567 --> 00:01:07,235 But there are those that are saying that the, 26 00:01:07,235 --> 00:01:10,113 you know, the origin of-of the JP Piranha is questionable. 27 00:01:10,113 --> 00:01:11,823 Stuff that's online, saying that 28 00:01:11,823 --> 00:01:13,366 that cross didn't come from you. 29 00:01:13,366 --> 00:01:15,702 And I go on this quest to find a pantheon of peppers, 30 00:01:15,702 --> 00:01:18,079 after all this whole journey, seven years, all this, 31 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:19,414 to find there is some question. 32 00:01:19,414 --> 00:01:20,832 That was-- I couldn't, I lost sleep. 33 00:01:20,832 --> 00:01:22,709 Yeah. There-There's no question. 34 00:01:22,709 --> 00:01:26,463 There-- I-I-I-- If I went on, one hand on The Bible, yes. 35 00:01:26,463 --> 00:01:28,715 I'm glad you're bringing this up, I'm very glad. 36 00:01:28,715 --> 00:01:30,008 Everything's documented. 37 00:01:30,008 --> 00:01:33,136 Uh, since 2018, I made the cross. 38 00:01:33,136 --> 00:01:36,431 It is a Naga Bubblegum crossed into a Primotalii. 39 00:01:36,431 --> 00:01:38,683 So the-the P-Piranha you've had, you've grown-- 40 00:01:38,683 --> 00:01:40,393 how many seasons have you grown the Piranha? 41 00:01:40,393 --> 00:01:42,229 Um, this is going to be the seventh. 42 00:01:42,229 --> 00:01:44,522 You can look through the documentation, which I have. 43 00:01:44,522 --> 00:01:45,941 Do you-- Did you bring it with you? 44 00:01:45,941 --> 00:01:47,484 - Yes. - Let me see it. I-I wanna see it. 45 00:01:47,484 --> 00:01:52,530 Uh, so, getting to the nitty-gritty, F1, 2018. I made a video. 46 00:01:55,742 --> 00:01:57,786 JOHNNY SCOVILLE: That's F1 and in 2018? 47 00:01:57,786 --> 00:01:58,620 JIMMY: Yes. 48 00:01:58,620 --> 00:02:00,622 Time stamps are very important. 49 00:02:01,331 --> 00:02:03,375 NARRATOR: When Jimmy says the term F1, 50 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:06,169 he's referring to the first generation of his pepper plant. 51 00:02:06,628 --> 00:02:09,798 A pepper plant doesn't produce a consisting crop of similar peppers 52 00:02:09,798 --> 00:02:12,884 until it's stable, when it reaches F7. 53 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:15,303 Superhot creators often chronicle proof 54 00:02:15,303 --> 00:02:18,473 of all generations to document their work. 55 00:02:18,473 --> 00:02:23,270 JIMMY [on recording]: The JP Piranha, 2018, F1. 56 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:24,604 Yeah, I mean, the thing is, 57 00:02:24,604 --> 00:02:26,940 I-I get tired of the pepper community. 58 00:02:27,315 --> 00:02:29,985 It's like, the second somebody has somethin', 59 00:02:29,985 --> 00:02:33,029 "I have it, too!" Some-- "I have it, too!" "I have it, too!" 60 00:02:33,572 --> 00:02:35,574 And I see it all the time. 61 00:02:36,408 --> 00:02:39,160 And I sell it to people, and then they go and rename it. 62 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,289 So it's important to have some type of, uh, paper trail. 63 00:02:42,706 --> 00:02:45,083 I have pictures of generations, so-- 64 00:02:46,084 --> 00:02:48,295 You know, I got proof of everything I do. 65 00:02:48,295 --> 00:02:49,379 Boom, there you go. 66 00:02:50,505 --> 00:02:53,174 I think it's important I be truthful. 67 00:02:53,174 --> 00:02:54,801 Yep. You have my word. JOHNNY: Alright. 68 00:02:54,801 --> 00:02:56,386 The-the community has my word. 69 00:02:56,386 --> 00:02:58,138 So I've said everything that I need to. 70 00:02:58,138 --> 00:02:59,306 - Sure. - I just hope that-- 71 00:02:59,306 --> 00:03:02,183 I-I hope nothing pops up that's gonna go, "Oh, here we go again. 72 00:03:02,183 --> 00:03:03,143 I just wanna be done with it. 73 00:03:03,143 --> 00:03:04,728 I appreciate the pictures and the documentation. 74 00:03:04,728 --> 00:03:06,313 That helped a lot. - I appreciate you, Johnny. 75 00:03:06,313 --> 00:03:09,065 You're welcome, and I'm-I'm taking you at face value. 76 00:03:09,441 --> 00:03:12,652 You know, Jimmy's all over the place, but he's said stuff that made sense to me. 77 00:03:12,652 --> 00:03:14,487 The last thing I wanna do is turn my back on a friend, 78 00:03:14,487 --> 00:03:16,281 and fortunately, he said the things that were necessary 79 00:03:16,281 --> 00:03:18,491 that calmed my nerves moving forward with this. 80 00:03:18,491 --> 00:03:19,743 New day? - New day. 81 00:03:19,743 --> 00:03:21,119 JOHNNY: No drama? JIMMY: No drama. 82 00:03:21,578 --> 00:03:23,622 ♪ dramatic theme music playing ♪ 83 00:03:23,622 --> 00:03:24,831 [pepper crunches] 84 00:03:26,958 --> 00:03:29,044 [flame sizzles] 85 00:03:30,587 --> 00:03:32,505 [bubbling] 86 00:03:35,634 --> 00:03:38,970 [flame sizzling] 87 00:03:39,262 --> 00:03:40,597 [pepper crunches] 88 00:03:40,597 --> 00:03:42,224 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 89 00:03:42,224 --> 00:03:44,976 NARRATOR: The pepper game is not for the meek. 90 00:03:44,976 --> 00:03:45,894 [gulps] 91 00:03:46,728 --> 00:03:47,646 It's loud... 92 00:03:47,646 --> 00:03:49,022 [heaves] 93 00:03:49,022 --> 00:03:50,690 NARRATOR: ...and in your face. 94 00:03:51,775 --> 00:03:55,695 Perhaps no one reps that better than chili addict Zach Goot. 95 00:03:56,446 --> 00:03:59,491 With his bright red hair and need for the spotlight... 96 00:03:59,491 --> 00:04:01,201 Let's go, Zest Fest! 97 00:04:01,201 --> 00:04:03,453 NARRATOR: ...he's not the kind of guy who's easy to miss. 98 00:04:03,453 --> 00:04:04,537 Ah! 99 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,041 NARRATOR: Until now. 100 00:04:08,041 --> 00:04:11,419 ♪ gentle playful music playing ♪ 101 00:04:11,419 --> 00:04:13,296 Hello, good morning, good morning. 102 00:04:14,214 --> 00:04:15,048 [bell dings] 103 00:04:15,423 --> 00:04:17,467 - How are you, how are you? - Good. 104 00:04:17,467 --> 00:04:19,719 Can I just get a regular coffee with cream, please? 105 00:04:19,719 --> 00:04:21,179 - You got it. - Thank you. 106 00:04:21,179 --> 00:04:22,347 NARRATOR: A couple months back, 107 00:04:22,347 --> 00:04:25,267 Zach retired from the Texas Hot Spot livestream 108 00:04:25,267 --> 00:04:27,269 and the chili community at large. 109 00:04:27,686 --> 00:04:31,022 He's slipped up from time to time, but for the most part, 110 00:04:31,022 --> 00:04:33,858 he's been living a much less spicy life. 111 00:04:33,858 --> 00:04:36,820 I mean, this guy's not even eating spicy peanuts anymore. 112 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:37,862 Since I retired, 113 00:04:38,488 --> 00:04:42,117 I, I took about 90 days of just straight thinking. 114 00:04:42,117 --> 00:04:45,328 Me and my wife are much better. 115 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:47,289 Our daughter, she got accepted 116 00:04:47,289 --> 00:04:49,124 into the gifted and talented program, 117 00:04:49,124 --> 00:04:50,542 which is amazing. 118 00:04:50,542 --> 00:04:52,794 So lately, in my life, what I've been doin' 119 00:04:53,169 --> 00:04:57,799 is workin' in the school as the security guard. 120 00:04:57,799 --> 00:05:00,343 Um, it's been quite an adjustment 121 00:05:00,343 --> 00:05:04,431 uh, since I'm used to bein' so... rowdy. 122 00:05:04,431 --> 00:05:08,393 Usually, I would sleep in till about 11 or 12 o'clock, [laughs] 123 00:05:08,393 --> 00:05:09,853 'cause I didn't really have a job. 124 00:05:09,853 --> 00:05:11,688 But now I'm wakin' up early, 125 00:05:11,688 --> 00:05:13,273 makin' sure I get some coffee in me, 126 00:05:13,773 --> 00:05:14,858 and I'm headin' to work. 127 00:05:14,858 --> 00:05:17,235 [machine whirring] 128 00:05:17,235 --> 00:05:20,488 [rain pattering] 129 00:05:28,038 --> 00:05:30,916 Um, yes, when I took a step back, 130 00:05:31,583 --> 00:05:32,959 and I got off the internet, 131 00:05:33,376 --> 00:05:36,463 and, you know, the attention stopped, 132 00:05:37,464 --> 00:05:38,798 yeah, I got a little lonely. 133 00:05:38,798 --> 00:05:40,342 I started drinking a little bit. 134 00:05:40,342 --> 00:05:41,384 Um-- 135 00:05:42,344 --> 00:05:44,387 Well, not a little bit, I started drinkin' a lot a bit. 136 00:05:44,387 --> 00:05:46,348 I started drinkin' about six beers a night, 137 00:05:46,348 --> 00:05:48,683 and that turned slowly into 12 beers a night. 138 00:05:50,018 --> 00:05:53,230 The old addictions do keep comin' and hittin' on the door, 139 00:05:53,230 --> 00:05:54,564 knockin' on the door, but, uh, 140 00:05:55,106 --> 00:05:57,317 we try to keep 'em at bay as best we can. 141 00:05:57,317 --> 00:06:01,196 And the only way to really, really relieve that trigger 142 00:06:01,196 --> 00:06:02,280 or that warning 143 00:06:02,572 --> 00:06:04,991 is to do somethin' to make you feel different. 144 00:06:04,991 --> 00:06:06,743 NARRATOR: After giving up superhot, 145 00:06:06,743 --> 00:06:09,246 it hasn't been easy for Zach to strike a balance. 146 00:06:09,246 --> 00:06:11,164 Past demons have crept in. 147 00:06:11,164 --> 00:06:14,918 So now, he and his wife, Anna, have hatched a new plan, 148 00:06:15,293 --> 00:06:17,087 a safety valve once a month 149 00:06:17,087 --> 00:06:21,341 that allows Zach one very spicy bender to scratch the itch. 150 00:06:21,341 --> 00:06:23,051 ZACH GOOT: With the burn comin' back into my life, 151 00:06:23,051 --> 00:06:25,512 I can kinda see the worry on my wife's face, 152 00:06:25,512 --> 00:06:27,639 but this is my opportunity 153 00:06:27,639 --> 00:06:30,934 to come back to the chili community a different man. 154 00:06:32,227 --> 00:06:35,438 NARRATOR: While Zach Goot gets ready for a weekend heat bender, 155 00:06:35,438 --> 00:06:38,650 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 156 00:06:38,650 --> 00:06:40,860 a select group of his fellow chiliheads 157 00:06:40,860 --> 00:06:44,072 are on the precipice of something much bigger. 158 00:06:44,072 --> 00:06:46,116 [fryer sizzling] 159 00:06:46,116 --> 00:06:49,244 Going hotter and more mainstream than ever before. 160 00:06:50,287 --> 00:06:51,413 TROY PRIMEAUX: How y'all doin'? 161 00:06:51,705 --> 00:06:53,999 You nervous for this? [laughs] 162 00:06:54,457 --> 00:06:55,375 AUREA DE GUZMAN: Yes. 163 00:06:55,375 --> 00:06:56,710 JOE GUITH: Welcome. - Thank you. 164 00:06:56,710 --> 00:06:58,253 ERIC STEIN: It's good to see you all. - Good seeing you all. 165 00:06:58,253 --> 00:06:59,129 Good morning. 166 00:06:59,129 --> 00:07:00,672 Guys wanna give it a try there? 167 00:07:00,672 --> 00:07:02,257 JOHNNY: Yeah, l-- um, may I? 168 00:07:02,257 --> 00:07:03,675 KEVIN HOUSTON: Absolutely, help yourself. 169 00:07:03,675 --> 00:07:05,886 NARRATOR: The spicy world of pepper people 170 00:07:05,886 --> 00:07:08,305 doesn't often include corporate retreats 171 00:07:08,305 --> 00:07:10,223 with Fortune 500 companies, 172 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,434 but today is the exception. 173 00:07:12,434 --> 00:07:13,685 JOE: We got more chicken coming. 174 00:07:13,977 --> 00:07:15,520 I know a few people. [laughs] 175 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,272 Yeah. Yeah. [laughs] 176 00:07:17,272 --> 00:07:19,232 NARRATOR: The executive team from a company 177 00:07:19,232 --> 00:07:21,651 called Church's Texas Chicken 178 00:07:21,651 --> 00:07:25,030 invited Troy Primeaux, Jimmy Pickles, and Bobby McFadden 179 00:07:25,030 --> 00:07:28,408 to create new sauces based on their superhots. 180 00:07:28,408 --> 00:07:29,242 Excellent. 181 00:07:31,036 --> 00:07:34,039 We're gonna make, make it sing in a little bit. 182 00:07:35,165 --> 00:07:36,541 JOE: Johnny, it's great, great to meet ya. 183 00:07:36,541 --> 00:07:39,419 I've seen you on my, my son's phone many times. 184 00:07:39,419 --> 00:07:40,629 JOHNNY: Well, that's really cool. 185 00:07:40,629 --> 00:07:43,089 It'd be cool if I could have met him. Little chiliheads are the best. 186 00:07:43,089 --> 00:07:45,467 You know what? Non-school day, maybe I could have convinced my wife. 187 00:07:45,467 --> 00:07:46,843 JOHNNY: Maybe in the future, we'll do that. 188 00:07:46,843 --> 00:07:48,553 - Yes, that would be awesome. - I got a question for ya, 189 00:07:48,553 --> 00:07:50,597 'cause I've been kinda scratching my head for a while, 190 00:07:50,597 --> 00:07:52,891 Like, how did all this happen? 191 00:07:52,891 --> 00:07:54,893 Like, how-how are we standing here-- 192 00:07:54,893 --> 00:07:56,228 - Yeah. - 'Cause I'm curious. 193 00:07:56,228 --> 00:07:57,729 - Well-- You know-- - If you can share that. 194 00:07:57,729 --> 00:07:59,356 Yeah, so I've never seen a brand 195 00:07:59,356 --> 00:08:01,066 where more hot sauce has gone out the door. 196 00:08:01,066 --> 00:08:02,692 I-I kid you not, right? 197 00:08:02,692 --> 00:08:06,154 And-and-and so clearly it was a part of who we are, and yet, 198 00:08:06,738 --> 00:08:09,532 we didn't really have anything signature on the sauce side. 199 00:08:09,532 --> 00:08:11,910 I mean, tons of hot sauce, but it's someone else's hot sauce. 200 00:08:12,953 --> 00:08:15,455 So I came back and said, "Listen, we need to figure this out. 201 00:08:15,455 --> 00:08:17,207 We need to do our version of this." 202 00:08:17,207 --> 00:08:19,334 - Brilliant. - And so, the first thing, they're like, 203 00:08:19,334 --> 00:08:21,169 "Well, we've got to go to the source, 204 00:08:21,169 --> 00:08:23,004 we need to start talking to some growers." 205 00:08:23,004 --> 00:08:24,673 Sounds exciting. JOE: Uh, it's very cool. 206 00:08:24,673 --> 00:08:29,094 If you get a corporate company to look at you like that, 207 00:08:29,094 --> 00:08:30,512 that's the dream. 208 00:08:31,221 --> 00:08:32,597 All these pepper growers thinkin', 209 00:08:33,265 --> 00:08:34,808 "That's me, I can do that." 210 00:08:34,808 --> 00:08:37,894 But if you can get the attention of a big corporation, 211 00:08:38,979 --> 00:08:41,690 it's a life-changer, that's it, a life-changer. 212 00:08:42,107 --> 00:08:44,985 We definitely need a, a signature hot sauce, 213 00:08:44,985 --> 00:08:47,320 and we definitely think the door is wide open. 214 00:08:47,737 --> 00:08:50,991 TROY: Well, we'll have some fun and see what we come up with. Yeah? 215 00:08:50,991 --> 00:08:52,117 JOE: Awesome. 216 00:08:56,621 --> 00:08:59,541 ♪ upbeat dramatic music playing ♪ 217 00:08:59,541 --> 00:09:02,335 NARRATOR: Big ideas can only take you so far. 218 00:09:03,420 --> 00:09:05,505 Opportunity is everything. 219 00:09:07,132 --> 00:09:10,051 And today, our pepper people have an opportunity 220 00:09:10,051 --> 00:09:12,345 to bring their heat to the mainstream, 221 00:09:12,345 --> 00:09:14,681 developing a new fried chicken dipping sauce 222 00:09:14,681 --> 00:09:17,601 that could go worldwide. 223 00:09:17,601 --> 00:09:20,937 We're talking every country in the world. 224 00:09:21,313 --> 00:09:24,107 Maybe Mars if we get that rocket stuff together. 225 00:09:24,941 --> 00:09:26,109 JIMMY: That's the good stuff. 226 00:09:26,610 --> 00:09:28,028 JOHNNY: You know what you're doing, you have a plan, huh? 227 00:09:28,028 --> 00:09:29,112 JIMMY: Absolutely. 228 00:09:29,571 --> 00:09:31,740 NARRATOR: Of late, Jimmy Pickles' reputation 229 00:09:31,740 --> 00:09:33,366 has come under fire, 230 00:09:33,366 --> 00:09:36,369 with accusations about him and his JP Piranha. 231 00:09:36,369 --> 00:09:37,287 Can I tell you something? 232 00:09:37,287 --> 00:09:38,914 I'm trying to figure out how I'm here at all. 233 00:09:38,914 --> 00:09:39,789 So I don't know. 234 00:09:40,749 --> 00:09:42,083 Love Jimmy, but Jimmy thinks 235 00:09:42,083 --> 00:09:44,085 that everybody's out to get his lucky charms. 236 00:09:44,085 --> 00:09:45,587 NARRATOR: Despite the noise, 237 00:09:45,587 --> 00:09:48,757 Jimmy knew he could not hide out and miss this. 238 00:09:48,757 --> 00:09:51,343 So for the occasion, he's asked for a little assistance 239 00:09:51,343 --> 00:09:53,845 from the only person he trusts right now. 240 00:09:53,845 --> 00:09:55,305 JOHNNY: How much zest do want me to put in this? 241 00:09:55,305 --> 00:09:57,807 I want approximately three oranges. 242 00:09:57,807 --> 00:09:59,184 Okay, I got one more to go. 243 00:09:59,184 --> 00:10:01,061 JIMMY: Okay, perfect, then we'll go from there. 244 00:10:03,563 --> 00:10:04,898 JIMMY: Big dog? 245 00:10:04,898 --> 00:10:05,815 Because uh, 246 00:10:07,317 --> 00:10:10,153 there's a lot of people I don't trust in the pepper community, 247 00:10:10,153 --> 00:10:11,821 but I trust Johnny Scoville. 248 00:10:13,031 --> 00:10:14,741 I value his expertise. 249 00:10:15,158 --> 00:10:17,202 After all the reviewing hot sauces, 250 00:10:17,702 --> 00:10:19,871 he is an asset. 251 00:10:21,164 --> 00:10:22,040 Thank you. 252 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,626 My relationship with Johnny Scoville has been great. 253 00:10:24,626 --> 00:10:26,545 We have some unique experiences. 254 00:10:26,545 --> 00:10:29,631 I started my company the same time Johnny started reviewing 255 00:10:30,173 --> 00:10:31,841 and we watched each other grow. 256 00:10:32,467 --> 00:10:37,305 This is a JP Piranha, agave, orange dipping sauce. 257 00:10:37,305 --> 00:10:40,183 My approach is actually, I wrote kind of a recipe, 258 00:10:40,183 --> 00:10:41,309 spur of the moment, in my head-- 259 00:10:41,685 --> 00:10:42,936 JOHNNY: He's using the force. 260 00:10:42,936 --> 00:10:44,688 JIMMY: So i-i-it's-it's basic. 261 00:10:44,688 --> 00:10:45,730 JOHNNY: You know that's great though, 262 00:10:45,730 --> 00:10:47,524 'cause if you're doing something on a grand scale, 263 00:10:47,524 --> 00:10:48,942 simplicity is your friend. 264 00:10:48,942 --> 00:10:51,820 If I end up doing a deal with Church's Chicken, 265 00:10:51,820 --> 00:10:54,239 it would be a fantastic opportunity. 266 00:10:54,239 --> 00:10:58,118 Actually, not just for me, but for the entire community itself 267 00:10:58,118 --> 00:11:01,580 because they're actually expanding the knowledge of the chili community. 268 00:11:01,580 --> 00:11:05,333 So not only would I win, the entire community would win. 269 00:11:05,333 --> 00:11:08,378 But I mean, ultimately, I would from the deal, 270 00:11:08,378 --> 00:11:09,796 you know, make no mistake. 271 00:11:09,796 --> 00:11:12,173 I feel like, uh, this is meant to be. 272 00:11:12,591 --> 00:11:14,009 BOBBY MCFADDEN: Take 'em out, and shake 'em. 273 00:11:14,009 --> 00:11:15,176 AUREA: Shake 'em. 274 00:11:15,176 --> 00:11:17,888 Shake 'em like you're crazy. There you go. 275 00:11:17,888 --> 00:11:22,058 [container rattling] 276 00:11:23,310 --> 00:11:24,519 Shaky, shaky, shaky. 277 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:25,687 BOBBY: I'm tryin'. 278 00:11:25,687 --> 00:11:27,981 [container rattling] 279 00:11:27,981 --> 00:11:29,649 TROY: Used to be a bartender or what? 280 00:11:29,649 --> 00:11:32,611 That's what I'm doin', man, serving up garlic cocktails. 281 00:11:33,612 --> 00:11:34,988 NARRATOR: Only a few months ago, 282 00:11:34,988 --> 00:11:37,866 Aurea De Guzman and Bobby McFadden were online friends 283 00:11:37,866 --> 00:11:39,618 on the periphery of the chili world, 284 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,455 but Bobby's superhots and Aurea's hot sauce expertise 285 00:11:43,455 --> 00:11:45,457 have catapulted them here today. 286 00:11:46,249 --> 00:11:48,418 AUREA: Right now, we're confit-ing the garlic, 287 00:11:48,418 --> 00:11:51,046 so it's cooking it in a really low temperature. 288 00:11:51,046 --> 00:11:55,050 Also creating my spice blend here, building flavor. 289 00:11:55,467 --> 00:11:58,386 Um, I'm always interested in layers of heat, 290 00:11:58,386 --> 00:12:01,848 so not necessarily just spice in the mouth 291 00:12:01,848 --> 00:12:05,477 but spice in, in terms of, uh, different herbs 292 00:12:05,477 --> 00:12:07,604 and different types of ingredients. 293 00:12:08,188 --> 00:12:09,648 NARRATOR: The sauce they're creating today 294 00:12:09,648 --> 00:12:11,900 incorporates traditional Filipino flavors. 295 00:12:12,317 --> 00:12:13,485 AUREA: Star anise, 296 00:12:13,985 --> 00:12:17,739 Sichuan peppercorn, and cloves. 297 00:12:17,739 --> 00:12:19,658 NARRATOR: With Bobby's Grumpanero, 298 00:12:19,658 --> 00:12:22,619 a pepper that actually looks like a grumpy man. 299 00:12:22,619 --> 00:12:24,996 BOBBY: Flavor of the Grumpanero is sweeter, 300 00:12:24,996 --> 00:12:26,873 and it's got a nice, rounded heat. 301 00:12:26,873 --> 00:12:28,917 It's gonna work good in this recipe. 302 00:12:28,917 --> 00:12:31,628 NARRATOR: But there's one additional ingredient at its core 303 00:12:31,628 --> 00:12:33,797 that truly sets it apart. 304 00:12:33,797 --> 00:12:38,343 This is sort of an, an homage to, uh, my dad. 305 00:12:38,343 --> 00:12:42,556 The base of this recipe is his favorite... 306 00:12:42,556 --> 00:12:43,974 - Yeah. - ...thing to put in food. 307 00:12:43,974 --> 00:12:44,849 So-- 308 00:12:45,642 --> 00:12:48,687 Before my father died in 2017, 309 00:12:48,687 --> 00:12:51,231 we shared a certain love for peppers, 310 00:12:51,231 --> 00:12:54,985 and I would always make him a batch of chili oil 311 00:12:54,985 --> 00:12:58,405 that he would put on his rice and, um... 312 00:12:58,822 --> 00:12:59,864 [choking up] 313 00:13:00,991 --> 00:13:04,202 ...and the last time I ever made that, 314 00:13:04,202 --> 00:13:08,206 he had about a-a fourth of a cup left in a jar, 315 00:13:08,915 --> 00:13:11,209 and every time I clean, I clean the fridge, 316 00:13:11,209 --> 00:13:13,420 I can't bring myself to throw that out. 317 00:13:14,129 --> 00:13:16,548 And then I get a call from Bobby and he said, 318 00:13:17,257 --> 00:13:20,552 "Hey, so, um, what kind of sauce are we making?" 319 00:13:21,511 --> 00:13:25,265 I opened my fridge and to the left door was 320 00:13:25,265 --> 00:13:29,895 the last, um, batch of chili oil 321 00:13:29,895 --> 00:13:31,271 that I ever made for my dad, 322 00:13:31,605 --> 00:13:33,815 and it just came to me, like, 323 00:13:33,815 --> 00:13:37,652 I'm gonna make this into some type of dipping sauce. 324 00:13:37,652 --> 00:13:39,863 You know, hopefully it turns out good. 325 00:13:39,863 --> 00:13:40,989 BOBBY: Yeah. 326 00:13:40,989 --> 00:13:42,032 I think it will. 327 00:13:42,449 --> 00:13:43,283 Means a lot to her. 328 00:13:43,283 --> 00:13:44,701 That's something that was personal to her 329 00:13:44,701 --> 00:13:47,037 that she used to make for her father that he enjoyed, 330 00:13:47,037 --> 00:13:49,456 and I think putting that into the sauce, 331 00:13:49,456 --> 00:13:51,207 you know, I think it was a really good thing 332 00:13:51,207 --> 00:13:53,627 that we went ahead and did that, you know? 333 00:13:53,627 --> 00:13:56,296 I think it was really important. 334 00:13:57,797 --> 00:13:58,673 Oh, my-- 335 00:13:59,341 --> 00:14:00,217 Right? 336 00:14:00,675 --> 00:14:01,885 Smells so good. 337 00:14:03,094 --> 00:14:05,931 NARRATOR: Bobby and Aurea are betting big on her family recipe, 338 00:14:05,931 --> 00:14:09,017 but they're not the only ones here relying on family. 339 00:14:09,392 --> 00:14:11,603 Whenever Troy Primeaux is making sauce, 340 00:14:11,603 --> 00:14:13,480 his wife is at his side. 341 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,523 See, she's my assistant, but really, 342 00:14:15,774 --> 00:14:18,401 um, no, I'm her assistant. 343 00:14:18,401 --> 00:14:20,737 That's the truth, that's the truth. [Kara laughs] 344 00:14:20,737 --> 00:14:23,865 She's the halo, and I'm the horns, that's the reoccurring theme. 345 00:14:25,408 --> 00:14:26,243 The peaches. 346 00:14:26,243 --> 00:14:29,204 That's-that's hell of a lot of, uh, faith, ain't it? 347 00:14:29,204 --> 00:14:31,414 I'm typically not a peach person, man, 348 00:14:31,748 --> 00:14:34,751 but, uh, it's just peachy. 349 00:14:34,751 --> 00:14:35,669 [laughs] 350 00:14:35,669 --> 00:14:37,546 Peaches go really well with things. 351 00:14:37,546 --> 00:14:41,341 Um, I know people in this-- uh, in our area, they like sweet stuff. 352 00:14:41,341 --> 00:14:42,175 TROY: It's got the sugar. 353 00:14:42,175 --> 00:14:43,885 KARA PRIMEAUX: I think they go great with, with chicken. 354 00:14:43,885 --> 00:14:46,388 So, that's where we are. - It's her idea. [laughs] 355 00:14:46,388 --> 00:14:47,305 It's her idea. 356 00:14:47,806 --> 00:14:51,977 So, if we wanna kick it up a couple of notches, 357 00:14:51,977 --> 00:14:55,480 these are dehydrated 7 Pot Primos I brought 358 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,316 and if you blend this up, you end up with this. 359 00:15:00,485 --> 00:15:01,945 I had to ship it ahead of time 360 00:15:01,945 --> 00:15:05,740 because I, I didn't wanna be on a plane with this 361 00:15:05,740 --> 00:15:10,078 and have something happen in checked luggage or baggage. 362 00:15:10,787 --> 00:15:12,247 Could you imagine a whole plane? 363 00:15:13,331 --> 00:15:15,625 I'd be on the news today, for the wrong reasons. 364 00:15:15,625 --> 00:15:17,419 It's a scorcher, you know? 365 00:15:17,419 --> 00:15:19,337 Should call this thing stupid hot. 366 00:15:19,337 --> 00:15:21,256 [laughs] You know? 367 00:15:21,256 --> 00:15:23,341 Superhot, it's stupid hot. 368 00:15:23,341 --> 00:15:28,597 This is some pepper mash I brought with the 7 Pot Primo. 369 00:15:29,264 --> 00:15:31,391 NARRATOR: Troy refers to himself and his wife Kara 370 00:15:31,391 --> 00:15:33,435 as the halo and the horns. 371 00:15:33,435 --> 00:15:35,270 This stuff is good. 372 00:15:35,270 --> 00:15:37,397 You're talkin' some serious heat there. 373 00:15:37,397 --> 00:15:39,941 NARRATOR: And today, they're using that relationship 374 00:15:39,941 --> 00:15:42,444 to develop a new spin on the 7 Pot 375 00:15:42,444 --> 00:15:45,071 that could make their sauce undeniable. 376 00:15:45,071 --> 00:15:49,701 TROY: I wanted to put five times as much of this in here. 377 00:15:50,702 --> 00:15:52,954 It's killer, man, but Kara's like, 378 00:15:52,954 --> 00:15:54,998 "No, no, it's too much, please." 379 00:15:54,998 --> 00:15:57,459 Some of the best things are made from a push-pull, 380 00:15:57,459 --> 00:16:00,921 when somebody challenges you, and I'm always gonna wanna push it, 381 00:16:01,588 --> 00:16:05,008 maybe-maybe a little further than I do with the heat, 382 00:16:05,008 --> 00:16:06,593 and she hones me back in. 383 00:16:06,593 --> 00:16:08,094 I'd like to put more of it, 384 00:16:08,094 --> 00:16:10,430 but right now we're startin' with a base. 385 00:16:10,430 --> 00:16:14,476 And I think this is a great opportunity, you know. 386 00:16:15,185 --> 00:16:17,687 If we would have more financial security, 387 00:16:18,521 --> 00:16:21,608 then Kara would be happier and our family would be happier. 388 00:16:22,108 --> 00:16:24,152 [knocks on table] Knock on wood. 389 00:16:24,694 --> 00:16:26,196 That's lookin' pretty good. 390 00:16:26,696 --> 00:16:27,822 A little nervous. 391 00:16:28,573 --> 00:16:29,532 Feel better now. 392 00:16:35,247 --> 00:16:37,916 [rain pattering] 393 00:16:38,375 --> 00:16:40,126 ZACH: Hello, beautiful lady. 394 00:16:40,752 --> 00:16:42,462 - Hi. - How are you? 395 00:16:42,462 --> 00:16:43,838 Good, how are you doing? 396 00:16:43,838 --> 00:16:45,298 I'm excited to get into it tonight. 397 00:16:45,298 --> 00:16:47,842 This'll be the spiciest I've went in a while. 398 00:16:48,218 --> 00:16:50,095 NARRATOR: After retiring from the chili community 399 00:16:50,095 --> 00:16:53,014 to focus on family, Zach Goot has struggled 400 00:16:53,014 --> 00:16:55,892 with the absence of superhot in his life. 401 00:16:55,892 --> 00:16:58,103 The Zach spicy hall pass. 402 00:16:58,103 --> 00:16:59,563 Hey, it's better than goin' around 403 00:16:59,563 --> 00:17:02,941 finding needles and straws and rolled up dollar bills. 404 00:17:02,941 --> 00:17:05,110 It's a healthier hall pass. 405 00:17:05,110 --> 00:17:06,778 ZACH: It's a healthier hall pass. 406 00:17:06,778 --> 00:17:07,904 NARRATOR: To find balance, 407 00:17:07,904 --> 00:17:11,366 his wife Anna has agreed to a weekend dive into heat, 408 00:17:11,366 --> 00:17:14,452 a temporary binge, that along with AA, 409 00:17:14,452 --> 00:17:16,788 might help him avoid his darker demons. 410 00:17:17,414 --> 00:17:18,790 ZACH: I have to be honest, 411 00:17:18,790 --> 00:17:21,710 I had a really bad cocaine problem, 412 00:17:23,503 --> 00:17:26,798 right around the time that I entered the spicy community. 413 00:17:26,798 --> 00:17:29,676 Oh buddy. [laughs] 414 00:17:30,010 --> 00:17:31,094 BRANDON COLLINS: Look what I got. 415 00:17:31,094 --> 00:17:33,346 I was wondering when you were gonna bring that. 416 00:17:33,346 --> 00:17:36,099 [sighs] Spicy. 417 00:17:36,933 --> 00:17:39,686 I'm so proud to say that I haven't touched cocaine 418 00:17:39,686 --> 00:17:40,812 in two and a half years. 419 00:17:40,812 --> 00:17:45,984 Once I realized eating spicy stuff, it was the same effect as doin' my drugs, 420 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:50,697 creates serotonin bursts or euphoria, 421 00:17:50,697 --> 00:17:54,284 and once I-- once I've realized and figured that out, it was over. 422 00:17:55,368 --> 00:17:57,579 BRANDON: We're about to be in a lot of pain. 423 00:17:57,579 --> 00:17:58,872 Cheers, bro. - Cheers, buddy. 424 00:17:59,331 --> 00:18:01,124 [crunching] BRANDON: Mm. 425 00:18:03,460 --> 00:18:05,337 Mm, I wanna try these Carolina Reaper peanuts. 426 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:09,591 So, these are ghost pepper ranch. 427 00:18:10,217 --> 00:18:11,343 Wow, that's good. 428 00:18:11,343 --> 00:18:13,970 NARRATOR: They say whatever happens in Vegas 429 00:18:13,970 --> 00:18:15,513 stays in Vegas. 430 00:18:15,513 --> 00:18:17,098 ZACH: My mouth's on fire! 431 00:18:17,098 --> 00:18:19,142 NARRATOR: Well, the same rule applies here. 432 00:18:19,142 --> 00:18:20,477 Happy tears, we call it. 433 00:18:20,936 --> 00:18:22,646 NARRATOR: Except for instead of drugs, 434 00:18:22,646 --> 00:18:24,522 it's weird hot things. 435 00:18:24,522 --> 00:18:26,566 Join me as we slowly descend into madness. 436 00:18:26,566 --> 00:18:27,400 Cheers. 437 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,777 [crunching] 438 00:18:28,777 --> 00:18:31,363 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 439 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,032 [growls] 440 00:18:34,616 --> 00:18:36,243 ♪ electronic dance music playing ♪ 441 00:18:36,243 --> 00:18:37,535 ♪ Break it down ♪ 442 00:18:37,535 --> 00:18:41,665 ♪ 443 00:18:42,666 --> 00:18:43,792 BRANDON: This is the lit. 444 00:18:45,502 --> 00:18:48,255 Oh. [laughs] 445 00:18:48,255 --> 00:18:49,214 That's hot. 446 00:18:49,923 --> 00:18:51,383 ZACH: Those are the plasma flakes. 447 00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:53,593 Oh, man. 448 00:18:54,469 --> 00:18:56,304 Goddammit. [claps hands] 449 00:18:56,304 --> 00:18:59,641 ♪ electronic dance music continues ♪ 450 00:18:59,641 --> 00:19:01,601 [maniacal laughter] 451 00:19:05,188 --> 00:19:06,439 ZACH: Eating spicy stuff, 452 00:19:06,439 --> 00:19:10,026 even that can turn into... problematic. 453 00:19:10,569 --> 00:19:11,444 Ah! 454 00:19:12,028 --> 00:19:13,280 I got it in my eye. 455 00:19:14,114 --> 00:19:16,032 I got superhot pow in my eye. 456 00:19:17,117 --> 00:19:22,247 You know, a healthy addiction can turn into an un-unhealthy addiction. 457 00:19:23,498 --> 00:19:24,332 Can I be honest? 458 00:19:24,332 --> 00:19:27,878 Even though I got it in my eye, I like it. 459 00:19:28,420 --> 00:19:29,421 Is that weird? 460 00:19:29,838 --> 00:19:33,800 The burn around my eye even is addicting. [laughs] 461 00:19:34,217 --> 00:19:35,552 This is living. BRANDON: You know? 462 00:19:35,552 --> 00:19:36,636 ZACH: This is living right. 463 00:19:38,221 --> 00:19:41,182 NARRATOR: Zach's spicy bender is just kicking off, 464 00:19:41,182 --> 00:19:43,894 a momentary madness that might deliver some balance 465 00:19:43,894 --> 00:19:45,645 to his life for now. 466 00:19:45,645 --> 00:19:48,565 But while he travels deeper down the rabbit hole, 467 00:19:49,941 --> 00:19:51,943 his fellow pepper people are working 468 00:19:51,943 --> 00:19:54,362 to tone down superhot extremes 469 00:19:54,362 --> 00:19:56,740 to bring a milder heat to the mainstream. 470 00:19:57,324 --> 00:19:58,241 Just dip. 471 00:19:58,700 --> 00:19:59,576 Alright. 472 00:19:59,576 --> 00:20:00,744 Mm. Cheers. 473 00:20:00,744 --> 00:20:02,412 [Kara laughs] 474 00:20:03,371 --> 00:20:06,833 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 475 00:20:11,838 --> 00:20:12,839 Needs more heat. 476 00:20:14,299 --> 00:20:16,468 Needs a little bit more heat, I think. 477 00:20:16,968 --> 00:20:19,429 JIMMY: We're gonna reduce it, that's all we're doing. 478 00:20:19,429 --> 00:20:22,515 Take a spoon, uh, be careful of temperature. 479 00:20:22,515 --> 00:20:23,516 How we lookin'? 480 00:20:25,101 --> 00:20:26,853 I may have to add a little bit more heat. 481 00:20:28,980 --> 00:20:30,148 The only issue is the thickness, 482 00:20:30,148 --> 00:20:32,234 if you can get the thickness right, that's ridiculous. 483 00:20:32,859 --> 00:20:35,487 I mean, really. JIMMY: I think we got a solid product. 484 00:20:35,487 --> 00:20:36,488 JOHNNY: Wow. 485 00:20:37,447 --> 00:20:39,407 Johnny and these two guns. 486 00:20:40,992 --> 00:20:42,285 ♪ 487 00:20:43,453 --> 00:20:44,329 [crunching] 488 00:20:44,329 --> 00:20:46,373 Mm, that's yummy. [laughs] 489 00:20:46,373 --> 00:20:47,290 [Bobby laughs] 490 00:20:48,541 --> 00:20:49,501 It is good. 491 00:20:50,544 --> 00:20:51,419 How's the spice? 492 00:20:52,170 --> 00:20:53,129 It's good. 493 00:20:53,672 --> 00:20:55,298 - Creeps up on you. - Mm-hmm. 494 00:20:55,298 --> 00:20:57,342 That spice, ooh, that's good. 495 00:20:59,135 --> 00:21:00,470 Once the heat kicks in. 496 00:21:00,929 --> 00:21:01,972 AUREA: Yep. - It's good. 497 00:21:03,515 --> 00:21:05,642 NARRATOR: As each grower finishes up their sauce, 498 00:21:05,642 --> 00:21:09,479 they prepare a sample for the Church's exec's blind taste test. 499 00:21:10,063 --> 00:21:13,650 That's right, no pitching your sauce here, no razzle-dazzle, 500 00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:17,070 no little picture of sauces on top of volcanoes, 501 00:21:17,070 --> 00:21:18,572 now it's time to taste. 502 00:21:19,114 --> 00:21:20,991 I'm glad we're at the end of this phase 503 00:21:20,991 --> 00:21:22,492 'cause I'm ready to eat. 504 00:21:22,492 --> 00:21:24,286 We've been talking about this for a while. 505 00:21:24,286 --> 00:21:27,289 So we really need to be going. 506 00:21:27,289 --> 00:21:28,123 Thank you. 507 00:21:28,123 --> 00:21:29,583 We're super excited [overlapping chatter] 508 00:21:29,583 --> 00:21:30,959 TROY: And I'll say, I'll say, look, 509 00:21:30,959 --> 00:21:34,379 if it's not what you expected or what you wanted, 510 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,215 I hope you enjoy it, and we had fun. 511 00:21:37,215 --> 00:21:38,216 Alright. KARA: Yeah. Thank you. 512 00:21:38,216 --> 00:21:39,759 TROY: Thank you. NATALIA FRANCO: Alright, guys. 513 00:21:40,385 --> 00:21:43,388 NARRATOR: Troy's Peach Primo, Jimmy's Orange Agave, 514 00:21:43,388 --> 00:21:46,308 and Bobby and Aurea's chili oil-inspired sauce 515 00:21:46,308 --> 00:21:48,685 all make their way from the cook station 516 00:21:48,685 --> 00:21:50,186 to the executive table. 517 00:21:52,022 --> 00:21:52,856 NATALIA: Okay. 518 00:21:52,856 --> 00:21:54,107 JOE: Alright, should we get some chicken goin'? 519 00:21:54,107 --> 00:21:55,150 ERIC: Let's do it. KEVIN: Let's do it. 520 00:21:55,150 --> 00:21:55,984 JOE: Okay. 521 00:21:55,984 --> 00:21:59,154 NATALIA: Okay, let's go for it. JOE: Mm, interesting. 522 00:21:59,738 --> 00:22:01,281 NARRATOR: It's now the moment of truth. 523 00:22:01,281 --> 00:22:02,741 - It sneaks up on you. - Is that that back burn? 524 00:22:02,741 --> 00:22:04,910 That is the back burn, yeah, absolutely. 525 00:22:04,910 --> 00:22:07,329 NARRATOR: To evaluate what these superhots can do 526 00:22:07,329 --> 00:22:11,583 and how they might bring next level heat to millions. 527 00:22:11,583 --> 00:22:13,460 I'm gettin' a little bit of the burn, right now. 528 00:22:13,460 --> 00:22:14,294 [group laughs] 529 00:22:14,294 --> 00:22:15,462 KEVIN: It's a nice build. ERIC: Yep. 530 00:22:16,171 --> 00:22:17,255 JOE: That is delicious. 531 00:22:21,593 --> 00:22:23,428 [rain pattering] 532 00:22:24,512 --> 00:22:26,848 Ah, I'm nervous but I'm excited, you know? 533 00:22:26,848 --> 00:22:28,642 You know what I mean. BRANDON: I know what you mean. 534 00:22:28,642 --> 00:22:30,644 ZACH: Nervous but excited at the same time. 535 00:22:30,644 --> 00:22:32,979 This is gonna be one hell of a ride. 536 00:22:34,022 --> 00:22:36,399 NARRATOR: When Zach Goot stepped away from superhot, 537 00:22:36,399 --> 00:22:38,360 it was to find equilibrium, 538 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,696 but unfortunately, it opened the door to old addictions. 539 00:22:42,864 --> 00:22:44,574 Alright, where did the extension-- 540 00:22:44,574 --> 00:22:46,076 Oh, there's the extension cord right there. 541 00:22:46,534 --> 00:22:47,953 Awesome. BRANDON: Alright, bud. 542 00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:50,580 Let's plug the phone in. 543 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:52,832 NARRATOR: Hoping to find a happy middle ground for now, 544 00:22:52,832 --> 00:22:56,002 he's spending a weekend down the rabbit hole. 545 00:22:56,002 --> 00:22:56,920 ZACH: Go time, buddy. 546 00:22:57,546 --> 00:22:59,256 NARRATOR: Which means a return 547 00:22:59,256 --> 00:23:01,716 to his Texas Hot Spot livestream. 548 00:23:01,716 --> 00:23:02,551 ZACH: You ready? 549 00:23:02,926 --> 00:23:04,052 Yeah. 550 00:23:04,052 --> 00:23:05,303 [Zach grunts] 551 00:23:06,513 --> 00:23:09,182 What's up, everybody, welcome to The Texas Hot Spot. 552 00:23:09,182 --> 00:23:13,103 My name is Brandon Collins, and of course, you know who this is. 553 00:23:13,103 --> 00:23:16,273 - Zachary Goot. - Our boy, Gooter. 554 00:23:16,273 --> 00:23:20,235 We're goin' for the world record of Un-bear-able Ones. 555 00:23:20,694 --> 00:23:22,320 And eatin' about 12 of them 556 00:23:22,654 --> 00:23:24,614 'cause right now the record is 10. 557 00:23:24,990 --> 00:23:27,367 Right before getting into the challenge, 558 00:23:27,951 --> 00:23:32,038 there's a zone, there's a place that I have to go. 559 00:23:32,038 --> 00:23:36,376 You have to... go somewhere 560 00:23:36,376 --> 00:23:38,378 that we call your happy place. 561 00:23:38,879 --> 00:23:40,547 Are you ready? - [laughs] Yeah. 562 00:23:40,547 --> 00:23:41,590 - Cheers. - Cheers. 563 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:42,549 First one down the hatch, 564 00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:43,550 here we go. - Let's go. 565 00:23:45,802 --> 00:23:47,429 I'm so fuckin' happy right now. 566 00:23:47,429 --> 00:23:48,263 [Brandon laughs] 567 00:23:48,263 --> 00:23:49,681 I don't feel nothin'. 568 00:23:49,681 --> 00:23:52,475 My happy place started when I was really young. 569 00:23:52,475 --> 00:23:54,561 I made this little happy place that I would go to 570 00:23:54,561 --> 00:23:56,521 where everything was okay. 571 00:23:56,521 --> 00:23:58,356 I didn't have to listen to my mom screaming 572 00:23:58,356 --> 00:23:59,232 or gettin' beaten up. 573 00:23:59,232 --> 00:24:02,319 I didn't have to listen to my stepfather 574 00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:03,862 or my father being drunk. 575 00:24:03,862 --> 00:24:05,530 And I used it throughout the Army, 576 00:24:05,906 --> 00:24:08,575 and I used it when I was in Iraq both times, 577 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,952 and I use it when I eat chilies. 578 00:24:10,952 --> 00:24:13,038 - Cheers, guys. - Cheers, bud, number six. 579 00:24:13,872 --> 00:24:15,206 Number seven. 580 00:24:15,206 --> 00:24:16,833 BRANDON: Yeah, I really gotta focus right now, 581 00:24:16,833 --> 00:24:17,792 I can feel it. 582 00:24:17,792 --> 00:24:19,628 ZACH: My tummy is not happy with me right now. 583 00:24:20,003 --> 00:24:22,714 NARRATOR: For Zach Goot, there's no telling what this challenge 584 00:24:22,714 --> 00:24:24,674 or the weeks ahead have in store. 585 00:24:24,674 --> 00:24:27,093 Uh-oh. [rain pattering] 586 00:24:27,093 --> 00:24:28,845 [Zach slams table] - Ah. 587 00:24:28,845 --> 00:24:30,931 NARRATOR: He might just break the world record. 588 00:24:30,931 --> 00:24:31,890 BRANDON: Doin' number 12. 589 00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:34,726 Oh, shit, Zach. 590 00:24:34,726 --> 00:24:35,769 [retches] 591 00:24:35,769 --> 00:24:39,397 NARRATOR: Or... you know... maybe not. 592 00:24:39,397 --> 00:24:41,483 BRANDON: Damn, Zach, damn! 593 00:24:43,902 --> 00:24:45,987 ZACH: All I gotta do is go to my happy place 594 00:24:46,738 --> 00:24:48,782 and I'm not scared of anything, 595 00:24:49,449 --> 00:24:51,201 I'm ready to take anything on 596 00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:54,204 because I'm huge in my happy place. 597 00:24:54,204 --> 00:24:57,332 I am indestructible in my happy place, 598 00:24:57,332 --> 00:25:01,378 but I have to freak out and sweat and breathe heavy to get there. 599 00:25:01,378 --> 00:25:03,463 And so eating spicy stuff, 600 00:25:03,463 --> 00:25:05,131 I think that'll always be a thing for me. 601 00:25:06,716 --> 00:25:08,385 [pained breathing] 602 00:25:08,385 --> 00:25:10,345 ZACH: Feeling like I might have diabetes now. 603 00:25:10,345 --> 00:25:12,013 [Brandon coughing] 604 00:25:12,931 --> 00:25:14,182 ZACH: I do need some milk. 605 00:25:14,558 --> 00:25:16,685 NARRATOR: Whether it's superhot, addiction, 606 00:25:16,685 --> 00:25:19,479 or balancing family, one thing seems clear, 607 00:25:19,896 --> 00:25:22,899 the road ahead won't be without its bumps and bruises. 608 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,152 Spice, with all its allure and pain, 609 00:25:26,152 --> 00:25:27,821 is Zach's cross to bear. 610 00:25:28,613 --> 00:25:30,991 I wanna come take a look at this pile of chocolate. 611 00:25:30,991 --> 00:25:32,158 BRANDON: You don't wanna see it. 612 00:25:32,158 --> 00:25:33,577 ZACH: Oh, yeah, I do. 613 00:25:34,494 --> 00:25:36,329 That is disgusting. 614 00:25:36,329 --> 00:25:37,831 [Brandon chuckles] 615 00:25:38,582 --> 00:25:40,166 NARRATOR: Zach Goot is walking the line 616 00:25:40,166 --> 00:25:42,002 between superhot and sanity. 617 00:25:42,377 --> 00:25:45,672 Meanwhile, fellow chiliheads Aurea and Bobby, 618 00:25:45,672 --> 00:25:47,299 are riding a different kind of high, 619 00:25:47,632 --> 00:25:51,428 after creating their very own superhot dipping sauce. 620 00:25:52,429 --> 00:25:54,472 BOBBY: I'm really happy with your recipe. 621 00:25:54,472 --> 00:25:56,016 I think it turned out pretty good. 622 00:25:56,016 --> 00:25:57,183 AUREA: That was surreal. 623 00:25:57,183 --> 00:25:58,226 Yeah. 624 00:25:58,685 --> 00:26:00,896 I've always felt like we were the outliers 625 00:26:00,896 --> 00:26:04,316 and just the observers, the watchers, the audience, 626 00:26:04,733 --> 00:26:07,110 and now we're, we're part of it. 627 00:26:09,404 --> 00:26:11,323 Hopefully something comes out of this, you know? 628 00:26:11,781 --> 00:26:14,409 Hopefully a huge contract with Church's Chicken, you know? 629 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,122 I could use a-a break, you know? Life's been not the easiest, so-- 630 00:26:19,706 --> 00:26:21,291 That would be-- - If not that, the memories, man. 631 00:26:21,291 --> 00:26:23,418 Yeah, if nothing else, this was just 632 00:26:23,793 --> 00:26:26,213 a great experience, you know, doing this stuff with you. 633 00:26:26,213 --> 00:26:28,131 First time I ever saw a hummingbird was today. 634 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:29,966 Oh. BOBBY: Yeah. 635 00:26:29,966 --> 00:26:31,384 AUREA: Even if you put out feeders, 636 00:26:31,384 --> 00:26:32,719 no hummingbirds come to your house? 637 00:26:33,261 --> 00:26:34,804 [phone rings] BOBBY: I'm getting a phone call. 638 00:26:35,805 --> 00:26:37,265 CALLER [over phone]: Hello? - Hello? 639 00:26:37,265 --> 00:26:39,309 - Uh, Bobby? - Yes, this is Bobby. 640 00:26:42,103 --> 00:26:43,438 BOBBY: Oh, hi, how are you? 641 00:26:48,777 --> 00:26:51,905 Oh, yeah, I'm sure we can turn around, r-right? 642 00:26:52,656 --> 00:26:54,950 A-A-Au-Aurea, we can go? 643 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:56,826 AUREA: Where are we going? - They want us to meet them. 644 00:26:57,452 --> 00:26:58,828 Yeah, that's fine, we can do that. 645 00:26:59,537 --> 00:27:02,582 NATALIA [over phone]: Okay, great, so I'll see you in a little bit then? 646 00:27:02,582 --> 00:27:04,876 BOBBY: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll head, we'll head right over. 647 00:27:05,335 --> 00:27:06,920 NATALIA: Okay, perfect, that's good. - Alright. Alright. 648 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,921 NATALIA: Thank you. - Thank you. 649 00:27:07,921 --> 00:27:09,506 NATALIA: Okay, bye. - Alright, bye-bye. 650 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,717 - What? - Uh... [laughs] 651 00:27:12,717 --> 00:27:14,928 - What. - What? [laughing] 652 00:27:14,928 --> 00:27:16,388 What? - What? 653 00:27:17,472 --> 00:27:19,516 What? - What just happened? 654 00:27:20,892 --> 00:27:23,061 Wow, okay, so apparently they want us to meet them 655 00:27:23,061 --> 00:27:24,229 and see what's going on. 656 00:27:24,229 --> 00:27:26,898 I-I don't know what they want. [laughs] 657 00:27:26,898 --> 00:27:28,858 ♪ playful upbeat music playing ♪ 658 00:27:28,858 --> 00:27:32,153 ♪ 659 00:27:32,153 --> 00:27:33,446 AUREA: I guess we're turning back. 660 00:27:33,446 --> 00:27:38,910 ♪ 661 00:27:38,910 --> 00:27:40,704 Hope we don't miss our flight. [laughs] 662 00:27:40,704 --> 00:27:42,914 I know. [laughs] I hope we don't miss our flight. 663 00:27:43,873 --> 00:27:46,626 We can't, we can't-- We have to go, this is-- 664 00:27:47,252 --> 00:27:48,545 AUREA: My hands are sweaty. 665 00:27:49,296 --> 00:27:50,630 BOBBY: My hands are sweaty, too. 666 00:27:57,220 --> 00:28:00,348 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 667 00:28:00,348 --> 00:28:01,391 AUREA: Okay. - Okay. 668 00:28:01,892 --> 00:28:03,810 AUREA: The anticipation is killing me. 669 00:28:06,855 --> 00:28:08,815 NARRATOR: Like we said way back at the start, 670 00:28:08,815 --> 00:28:11,443 a pepper can be a lottery ticket. 671 00:28:11,443 --> 00:28:12,277 BOBBY: Ready? 672 00:28:12,277 --> 00:28:15,739 NARRATOR: Well, Bobby and Aurea might just have the winning numbers, 673 00:28:15,739 --> 00:28:18,825 earning a sit-down with a Fortune 500 company. 674 00:28:18,825 --> 00:28:20,327 BOBBY: Hello, everyone. [laughs] 675 00:28:20,327 --> 00:28:21,828 NATALIA: Hi. JOE: Hey, guys. 676 00:28:21,828 --> 00:28:23,788 BOBBY: That was an unexpected phone call. [laughs] 677 00:28:23,788 --> 00:28:25,081 Thanks for comin' in on short notice. 678 00:28:25,081 --> 00:28:26,458 - Oh, yeah. No problem, guys. - Appreciate it. 679 00:28:26,458 --> 00:28:27,334 How are ya? 680 00:28:27,334 --> 00:28:28,376 NATALIA: Good, good. JOE: Very good. 681 00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:31,630 Well, listen, thanks again for comin' in. 682 00:28:31,630 --> 00:28:34,591 Um, you know, as we said, we were really looking 683 00:28:34,591 --> 00:28:37,677 for a new sauce to really elevate the brand. 684 00:28:37,677 --> 00:28:40,138 And specifically what we were looking at 685 00:28:40,472 --> 00:28:44,684 were things that would really work for the brand, 686 00:28:44,684 --> 00:28:48,021 but also something that we felt we could actually execute. 687 00:28:48,021 --> 00:28:50,148 BOBBY: Okay. - So it was a difficult decision 688 00:28:50,148 --> 00:28:52,275 because everybody has been great 689 00:28:52,275 --> 00:28:53,944 and we've really enjoyed the process. 690 00:28:54,903 --> 00:28:58,156 That said, we're happy to say that we felt 691 00:28:58,156 --> 00:29:01,326 that your sauce had the best fit for us. 692 00:29:02,410 --> 00:29:03,787 Shut up. I'm sorry. BOBBY: Are you serious? 693 00:29:03,787 --> 00:29:04,996 I didn't mean to say shut up. 694 00:29:04,996 --> 00:29:07,457 [all laugh] 695 00:29:08,625 --> 00:29:11,419 JOE: So, so we're really excited... - Oh, my God. 696 00:29:11,419 --> 00:29:13,213 JOE: ...to continue the conversation with you... 697 00:29:13,213 --> 00:29:15,382 Wow. JOE: ...about what the next steps 698 00:29:15,382 --> 00:29:17,008 would be in the process. 699 00:29:17,008 --> 00:29:18,009 Okay, yeah. 700 00:29:18,009 --> 00:29:19,719 AUREA: This is big. - This is awesome. 701 00:29:19,719 --> 00:29:20,971 This is really cool, guys. 702 00:29:20,971 --> 00:29:24,140 We were questioning our place in this whole thing, 703 00:29:24,140 --> 00:29:25,225 this whole time. - So... 704 00:29:25,934 --> 00:29:27,686 Well, I guess the question's been answered now. 705 00:29:27,686 --> 00:29:28,562 BOBBY: Yeah. [chuckles] 706 00:29:28,937 --> 00:29:31,481 - Thank you so much for giving us a yes. - I don't know what else to say. 707 00:29:31,481 --> 00:29:32,649 Thank you so much. AUREA: Thank you. 708 00:29:32,649 --> 00:29:33,942 JOE: Thank you. Alright, thank you, guys. 709 00:29:33,942 --> 00:29:35,485 - Thank you. You get a hug. - We look forward to working with ya. 710 00:29:35,485 --> 00:29:36,528 Alright. Yeah. 711 00:29:36,945 --> 00:29:39,406 Bring it on in. Alright. Thank you. NATALIA: Big hugs. Congratulations. 712 00:29:39,406 --> 00:29:40,532 Congratulations, Aurea. 713 00:29:40,532 --> 00:29:41,825 NATALIA: Congratulations. BOBBY: Thank you so much, guys. 714 00:29:41,825 --> 00:29:43,910 This has been the recipe I've been making 715 00:29:43,910 --> 00:29:45,537 for my-my late father. 716 00:29:46,037 --> 00:29:47,372 His name was George. 717 00:29:48,248 --> 00:29:50,750 Did you know that the founder of Church's Chicken 718 00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:52,836 is George Church? 719 00:29:53,503 --> 00:29:55,171 It's meant to be. 720 00:29:55,672 --> 00:29:58,884 I made it for my dad, who passed away, and it's-- 721 00:29:58,884 --> 00:29:59,801 JOE: What was his name? 722 00:29:59,801 --> 00:30:01,011 George. JOE: George. 723 00:30:01,011 --> 00:30:02,262 ERIC: Wow, George Church's-- 724 00:30:02,262 --> 00:30:03,263 JOE: George's sauce. 725 00:30:03,263 --> 00:30:04,764 ERIC: Yeah, George's sauce. - George's sauce. 726 00:30:04,764 --> 00:30:06,308 AUREA: George's sauce. ERIC: Oh, there you go. 727 00:30:06,516 --> 00:30:08,977 Imagine, he is watching you, right now. 728 00:30:09,603 --> 00:30:12,022 AUREA: What it means to me when I say, 729 00:30:12,022 --> 00:30:15,483 I get to work with a-a big, nation-wide company, 730 00:30:15,483 --> 00:30:19,613 I can devote more time towards taking care of my mom. 731 00:30:19,613 --> 00:30:22,866 I can help my sister, who just got accepted to Harvard. 732 00:30:22,866 --> 00:30:24,451 I'm a proud big sister. 733 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,913 The only reason she's not going is because we couldn't afford it. 734 00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:30,624 I can't wait to drive down to Atlanta from Chicago. 735 00:30:30,624 --> 00:30:33,627 Oh, oh, I think we can fly you down. 736 00:30:34,002 --> 00:30:37,130 I know money doesn't, you know, create happiness, 737 00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:39,799 but it definitely would make it easier 738 00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:42,135 for us to, to find what makes us happy. 739 00:30:44,721 --> 00:30:46,932 Do I jump? What do I do? [laughs] 740 00:30:46,932 --> 00:30:51,436 Listen, I started out as a guy just growing peppers 741 00:30:51,436 --> 00:30:52,812 and teaching people to grow. 742 00:30:53,396 --> 00:30:56,983 I love that, but if I can do something with this 743 00:30:56,983 --> 00:30:58,735 that I can live off of, 744 00:30:59,152 --> 00:31:00,904 that is definitely a dream of mine. 745 00:31:00,904 --> 00:31:02,739 Guess we get to hang out some more, huh? 746 00:31:02,739 --> 00:31:04,699 [laughs] 747 00:31:04,699 --> 00:31:06,034 Can't get rid of me that easy. [laughs] 748 00:31:06,034 --> 00:31:07,285 [softly] Oh, my God. 749 00:31:07,702 --> 00:31:09,246 NARRATOR: When someone gets a big break, 750 00:31:09,246 --> 00:31:12,707 it usually means someone else goes home sad, alone, 751 00:31:12,707 --> 00:31:14,459 staring at their wall for hours. 752 00:31:15,126 --> 00:31:17,837 In this case, both Jimmy Pickles and Troy Primeaux 753 00:31:17,837 --> 00:31:20,757 missed out on the Church's payday, for now at least. 754 00:31:21,466 --> 00:31:25,011 Church's reps asked to explore other possibilities with both. 755 00:31:25,387 --> 00:31:28,390 But despite that potential, they leave empty-handed. 756 00:31:29,099 --> 00:31:30,809 Everybody wants to be a winner but, you know, 757 00:31:30,809 --> 00:31:32,811 there's no losers in this thing, you know? 758 00:31:35,146 --> 00:31:37,190 It's-- Just being involved in it 759 00:31:38,483 --> 00:31:40,443 is-is-is awesome, you know? 760 00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:44,197 NARRATOR: I said it before and I'll say it again, 761 00:31:44,197 --> 00:31:46,783 the pepper business is pretty cutthroat. 762 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,452 But while the growers head home to regroup... 763 00:31:49,452 --> 00:31:50,870 I'm just floating. 764 00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:52,831 [laughs] AUREA: I know, my heart's still racing. 765 00:31:52,831 --> 00:31:54,916 NARRATOR: ...chili kingmaker Johnny Scoville, 766 00:31:54,916 --> 00:31:56,668 has other things on his mind. 767 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,880 There's gonna be one that holds their hand victorious 768 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,757 and the other one's gonna be checked off that list. 769 00:32:02,757 --> 00:32:05,302 NARRATOR: He's discovered a pantheon of contenders 770 00:32:05,302 --> 00:32:07,304 for the hottest pepper on Earth, 771 00:32:07,596 --> 00:32:10,307 the hottest of superhot that just might redefine 772 00:32:10,307 --> 00:32:12,350 the very notion of heat. 773 00:32:12,767 --> 00:32:15,812 But as of now, few questions have been answered. 774 00:32:16,313 --> 00:32:18,273 Well, that's all about to change. 775 00:32:18,690 --> 00:32:21,610 All of these superhots will soon be under one roof 776 00:32:21,610 --> 00:32:23,403 for the very first time. 777 00:32:23,403 --> 00:32:25,780 And before all is said and done, 778 00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:29,534 we'll find out just how hot they truly are. 779 00:32:30,452 --> 00:32:32,370 JOHNNY: I know we can do it, I know we can put the, 780 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:35,457 the discussion to rest. 781 00:32:35,457 --> 00:32:38,543 To me, that's almost like the perfect crescendo, 782 00:32:38,543 --> 00:32:41,129 that's the perfect way to culminate this whole thing 783 00:32:41,796 --> 00:32:42,964 is I'm gonna find it. 784 00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:44,591 I'm just going to. 785 00:32:45,342 --> 00:32:46,927 [flames sizzling] 786 00:32:46,927 --> 00:32:51,056 ♪ dramatic theme music playing ♪ 787 00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:54,935 ♪ 788 00:33:05,487 --> 00:33:09,115 ♪ 789 00:33:09,115 --> 00:33:10,617 ♪ music stops ♪ 790 00:33:15,038 --> 00:33:16,957 [whistling]