1 00:00:01,043 --> 00:00:03,338 ANNOUNCER [on microphone]: Alright, making his way up to the stage, 2 00:00:03,338 --> 00:00:04,548 we've got Mike Jack. 3 00:00:04,548 --> 00:00:05,840 ANNOUNCER 2: Mike Jack's in the building. 4 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,885 ANNOUNCER: Mike's from Canada. [spectators clamoring] 5 00:00:08,885 --> 00:00:11,763 NARRATOR: There is no money on the line, 6 00:00:12,347 --> 00:00:15,725 no big grand prize or endorsement waiting on the other side. 7 00:00:15,725 --> 00:00:19,938 There is only glory to say you did it, 8 00:00:19,938 --> 00:00:23,275 to know that you and you alone hold the world record. 9 00:00:23,275 --> 00:00:25,527 ANNOUNCER [on microphone]: Let's give Mike a lot of applause, please. 10 00:00:25,527 --> 00:00:28,697 This is gonna be a really, really rough challenge. 11 00:00:29,656 --> 00:00:31,700 NARRATOR: For bragging rights alone, 12 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:34,369 competitive chili-eating champion Mike Jack 13 00:00:34,369 --> 00:00:36,371 will now imbibe, wait for it, 14 00:00:37,038 --> 00:00:40,667 20 bottles of superhot hot sauce. 15 00:00:41,001 --> 00:00:43,420 SPECTATORS: Three, two, one, 16 00:00:43,420 --> 00:00:44,462 go! 17 00:00:44,462 --> 00:00:46,006 You got this, Mike, come on, mate. 18 00:00:46,006 --> 00:00:48,383 [spectators cheering] 19 00:00:49,593 --> 00:00:53,054 ♪ intense music playing ♪ 20 00:00:55,724 --> 00:00:57,183 [spectators cheering] 21 00:00:57,183 --> 00:01:00,520 NARRATOR: He will suffer through three minutes of burn between each. 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,771 [Mike coughs] - You're okay. 23 00:01:07,235 --> 00:01:10,739 [cheering and applause] 24 00:01:10,739 --> 00:01:13,408 I think this is the highest I've ever been 25 00:01:13,408 --> 00:01:14,910 doing the challenge. 26 00:01:18,163 --> 00:01:21,833 NARRATOR: He will attempt this frankly arbitrary challenge. 27 00:01:21,833 --> 00:01:23,335 Why? - Because I can. 28 00:01:23,335 --> 00:01:24,169 [Jamie laughs] 29 00:01:24,169 --> 00:01:27,047 NARRATOR: Because... he... can. 30 00:01:27,547 --> 00:01:28,632 Amen, Mike. 31 00:01:28,632 --> 00:01:30,926 Kind of crazy, but I respect it. 32 00:01:30,926 --> 00:01:35,347 SPECTATORS: Six, five, four, three, two, one. 33 00:01:35,347 --> 00:01:37,182 [cheering] [bell rings] 34 00:01:38,767 --> 00:01:40,977 ANNOUNCER: We have an official new world record 35 00:01:40,977 --> 00:01:43,563 with League of Fire for Scoville Slammers. 36 00:01:44,731 --> 00:01:47,025 Mike Jack, everybody. [spectators cheering] 37 00:01:47,025 --> 00:01:49,527 He is the victor! 38 00:01:50,111 --> 00:01:52,489 NARRATOR: Mike Jack's name is now synonymous 39 00:01:52,489 --> 00:01:56,159 with hot sauce chugging at its highest level. 40 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:59,537 He will be the one all future chuggers aim to out-chug. 41 00:01:59,996 --> 00:02:04,459 He is, for now, the chugging GOAT. 42 00:02:04,459 --> 00:02:07,128 Mike, tell us how it feels to reach the mountain top. 43 00:02:07,128 --> 00:02:08,380 [Mike groans] 44 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:14,427 ♪ dramatic theme music playing ♪ 45 00:02:14,427 --> 00:02:15,637 [pepper crunches] 46 00:02:17,681 --> 00:02:19,766 [flame sizzles] 47 00:02:21,268 --> 00:02:23,353 [bubbling] 48 00:02:26,106 --> 00:02:28,984 [flame sizzling] 49 00:02:29,901 --> 00:02:32,362 ♪ intriguing music playing ♪ 50 00:02:32,362 --> 00:02:35,198 NARRATOR: The cold has put an end to the pepper growing season, 51 00:02:35,198 --> 00:02:37,909 but no one is hibernating for winter. 52 00:02:38,285 --> 00:02:41,913 Without hesitation, the chili world shifts gears, 53 00:02:41,913 --> 00:02:45,292 moving fast to cash in on their superhot haul. 54 00:02:46,293 --> 00:02:50,589 Here's chili kingmaker Johnny Scoville to break down the business of heat. 55 00:02:50,964 --> 00:02:52,924 We keep talking about peppers and money, 56 00:02:53,425 --> 00:02:56,469 and how if you've got the hottest pepper, you've got a lottery ticket. 57 00:02:56,469 --> 00:02:59,806 The spicy food game, it's big business. 58 00:02:59,806 --> 00:03:01,474 That's why I'm wearin' a tie. 59 00:03:03,018 --> 00:03:06,187 Most major food brands have at least one spicy snack, 60 00:03:06,187 --> 00:03:08,064 and they need pepper powder to heat it. 61 00:03:08,064 --> 00:03:10,400 So if your powder is super, super hot, 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,361 it takes a lot less to make those cheesy puffs extra spicy. 63 00:03:13,778 --> 00:03:16,531 For instance, a pound of 7 Pot Primo powder 64 00:03:16,531 --> 00:03:18,074 will heat a thousand tacos. 65 00:03:19,451 --> 00:03:22,704 The pepper growers are playin' the lottery, but if they win, 66 00:03:23,538 --> 00:03:24,748 they win big. 67 00:03:27,334 --> 00:03:28,877 Can I lose the tie now or what? 68 00:03:31,421 --> 00:03:33,506 NARRATOR: Yes, Johnny, you can lose the tie. 69 00:03:34,132 --> 00:03:35,967 But maybe not for long, 70 00:03:35,967 --> 00:03:38,637 because superhot is about to collide 71 00:03:38,637 --> 00:03:41,139 with corporate America. 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,310 Shortly after the growing season ended, big business came a-callin'. 73 00:03:45,310 --> 00:03:47,229 JOHNNY SCOVILLE: Turns out that the CEO of Church's Chicken, 74 00:03:47,229 --> 00:03:50,232 his son is a 14-year-old budding little chilihead, 75 00:03:50,232 --> 00:03:51,066 how 'bout that? 76 00:03:51,066 --> 00:03:53,777 But because of that, he's now realized 77 00:03:53,777 --> 00:03:56,863 that they want to take Church's Chicken to the next level. 78 00:03:56,863 --> 00:03:59,032 They-they want-- You know, there's spicy stuff everywhere, 79 00:03:59,032 --> 00:04:00,408 it's time for something unique. 80 00:04:00,909 --> 00:04:03,745 NARRATOR: With big business comes big opportunity, 81 00:04:04,204 --> 00:04:06,831 and sure enough, Church's Texas Chicken 82 00:04:06,831 --> 00:04:09,751 has pulled together a kind of competition, 83 00:04:09,751 --> 00:04:12,629 an R&D summit to find the right pepper 84 00:04:12,629 --> 00:04:16,424 for a brand new super-hot dipping sauce. 85 00:04:16,424 --> 00:04:20,011 If a company gets behind this, the next big thing, 86 00:04:20,011 --> 00:04:22,013 the next hottest thing, you know, 87 00:04:22,013 --> 00:04:25,433 they can be ahead of the curve, be ahead of the game, 88 00:04:26,309 --> 00:04:29,479 and reap profits that they've never seen. 89 00:04:29,479 --> 00:04:31,898 They've never realized. This is great. 90 00:04:31,898 --> 00:04:33,483 People are gonna know about us. 91 00:04:34,776 --> 00:04:37,445 ♪ tense violin music playing ♪ 92 00:04:37,445 --> 00:04:40,240 NARRATOR: Church's invited just a few select growers to the event, 93 00:04:40,740 --> 00:04:43,618 ones who had very, very hot peppers. 94 00:04:44,035 --> 00:04:45,579 But as importantly, 95 00:04:45,579 --> 00:04:47,998 peppers with the kind of mainstream flavor 96 00:04:47,998 --> 00:04:49,416 America wants for dinner. 97 00:04:49,416 --> 00:04:50,625 [pepper crunches] [coughs] 98 00:04:51,710 --> 00:04:53,962 I remember reading a sauce label 99 00:04:53,962 --> 00:04:57,340 and thinkin' it has Reaper, Ghost Pepper, Moruga Scorpion, 100 00:04:57,883 --> 00:04:59,342 and a jalapeno, what's the point? 101 00:04:59,342 --> 00:05:00,218 If they're looking for hot, 102 00:05:00,218 --> 00:05:01,928 they could have just got it done with the hottest pepper. 103 00:05:01,928 --> 00:05:05,682 The reason that sauce makers and-and creators in the spice world 104 00:05:05,682 --> 00:05:07,058 will use different peppers, 105 00:05:07,559 --> 00:05:08,768 because you'll get different flavors. 106 00:05:08,768 --> 00:05:11,396 It'll burn your mouth in different parts, in different areas, 107 00:05:11,396 --> 00:05:14,482 and it gives you a complete burn and a better sense, uh, altogether. 108 00:05:14,482 --> 00:05:16,818 [flames whoosh] 109 00:05:16,818 --> 00:05:19,404 I mean, anybody can make something hot. 110 00:05:19,404 --> 00:05:22,449 Can they make it taste good? Can they make it have flavor? 111 00:05:22,782 --> 00:05:23,950 It's gotta have flavor, man. 112 00:05:24,367 --> 00:05:26,953 If it's just hot, I'm not so behind it, 113 00:05:26,953 --> 00:05:28,121 [laughs] you know? 114 00:05:29,748 --> 00:05:32,292 [whooshing] [exploding] 115 00:05:36,087 --> 00:05:37,214 [ding] 116 00:05:38,256 --> 00:05:40,008 NARRATOR: When it comes to high-level heat 117 00:05:40,008 --> 00:05:41,343 and unique flavor, 118 00:05:41,343 --> 00:05:44,930 the 7 Pot Primo has a legendary reputation. 119 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:47,057 Perhaps that's why Church's reached out 120 00:05:47,057 --> 00:05:48,850 to Troy Primeaux right away. 121 00:05:49,392 --> 00:05:50,894 And after a big season 122 00:05:50,894 --> 00:05:53,480 he's got the firepower to take a shot. 123 00:05:54,022 --> 00:05:56,107 So we're at Acadiana Cold Storage, 124 00:05:56,107 --> 00:05:58,652 where I store my 7 Pot Primos. 125 00:05:58,652 --> 00:06:01,321 This-This place is, is like a, 126 00:06:01,321 --> 00:06:03,698 a middle point for, for tran-- 127 00:06:03,698 --> 00:06:05,367 Good point. Correct. TROY PRIMEAUX: Uh, logistics. 128 00:06:05,367 --> 00:06:07,160 Correct. TROY: Mostly cold storage. 129 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,662 As soon as the cold weather comes, 130 00:06:08,662 --> 00:06:11,081 you gotta do something with your peppers. 131 00:06:11,081 --> 00:06:13,583 You can, you can dehydrate them, 132 00:06:13,917 --> 00:06:16,962 you know, if you have the industrial dehydrators. 133 00:06:16,962 --> 00:06:20,423 Uh, you can make mash out of those peppers, 134 00:06:20,423 --> 00:06:22,384 or you can freeze them. 135 00:06:22,842 --> 00:06:26,513 But you can't freeze them in your home refrigerator. 136 00:06:26,513 --> 00:06:28,390 If you want to produce this for the public, 137 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:30,642 you have to put it in a licensed facility. 138 00:06:30,642 --> 00:06:34,187 You have to pay a fee to be inspected every year, 139 00:06:34,187 --> 00:06:36,064 and then you have to have this space 140 00:06:36,064 --> 00:06:37,274 to put all these peppers. 141 00:06:38,149 --> 00:06:40,527 Hey, T, what's goin' on, man? 142 00:06:40,527 --> 00:06:42,112 Just comin' to pick up some peppers. 143 00:06:42,737 --> 00:06:44,614 T: Okay, no problem. TROY: Thanks, man. 144 00:06:45,198 --> 00:06:47,033 Just point 'em out. Which one is it you want out? 145 00:06:47,325 --> 00:06:49,536 NARRATOR: This season, Troy's expanded his operation 146 00:06:49,536 --> 00:06:51,663 with new allies and land. 147 00:06:51,663 --> 00:06:54,124 The result? This industrial freezer 148 00:06:54,124 --> 00:06:56,459 in Lafayette, packed to the brim 149 00:06:56,459 --> 00:06:59,671 with thousands of pounds of 7 Pot Primos. 150 00:06:59,671 --> 00:07:03,341 A stockpile of heat, capable of lighting up dipping sauces 151 00:07:03,341 --> 00:07:04,384 around the globe. 152 00:07:04,885 --> 00:07:06,011 Frozen peppers. 153 00:07:09,097 --> 00:07:09,931 That's 'em. 154 00:07:11,892 --> 00:07:13,393 Got some heat there, buddy. 155 00:07:13,393 --> 00:07:15,061 Make me a snow cone out of 'em? 156 00:07:15,061 --> 00:07:17,147 [both laugh] 157 00:07:17,147 --> 00:07:18,982 NARRATOR: In the past, business deals fell apart 158 00:07:18,982 --> 00:07:20,942 because Troy couldn't meet demand. 159 00:07:21,359 --> 00:07:23,236 But that's not a problem now. 160 00:07:23,236 --> 00:07:27,741 Today, he's moving enough frozen pods out of storage to test sauces 161 00:07:27,741 --> 00:07:29,618 and load up with plenty of dry powder 162 00:07:29,618 --> 00:07:31,620 for the upcoming Church's event. 163 00:07:31,620 --> 00:07:33,622 TROY: Tell you what, looks like we're good to go. 164 00:07:37,083 --> 00:07:38,585 [machine whirs] 165 00:07:41,338 --> 00:07:42,797 TROY: Love seein' ya, T, 166 00:07:42,797 --> 00:07:45,508 but someday I hope to have my own place, you know? 167 00:07:46,009 --> 00:07:48,428 It's a good problem to have, supply and demand. 168 00:07:49,679 --> 00:07:53,308 Even though you love to be gettin' your hands dirty in the soil, 169 00:07:54,434 --> 00:07:57,604 your time's spent best elsewhere. 170 00:07:57,604 --> 00:07:58,772 Till next time, man. 171 00:07:58,772 --> 00:08:01,650 I hope I sell a lot of hot sauce so I can get outta your hair. 172 00:08:01,650 --> 00:08:02,734 [T laughs] 173 00:08:03,235 --> 00:08:06,238 ♪ 174 00:08:09,532 --> 00:08:13,703 ♪ quirky music playing ♪ 175 00:08:15,956 --> 00:08:17,958 [wolf howls] 176 00:08:17,958 --> 00:08:19,000 [tiger roars] 177 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,169 NARRATOR: No matter what you're cooking up with superhot, 178 00:08:21,169 --> 00:08:23,713 its success hinges on much more than just 179 00:08:23,713 --> 00:08:25,173 its flavor and heat. 180 00:08:25,632 --> 00:08:27,259 Does it bite like an alligator, 181 00:08:28,051 --> 00:08:30,136 or take you to another stratosphere? 182 00:08:30,136 --> 00:08:31,388 [UFO whizzes] 183 00:08:31,388 --> 00:08:33,473 That's right. How do you market it? 184 00:08:33,765 --> 00:08:35,934 What's the brand that gets people to buy in? 185 00:08:39,354 --> 00:08:40,855 I don't wanna spill water. 186 00:08:42,274 --> 00:08:44,234 Yep, I'm gonna spill water that way. 187 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,194 Huh. 188 00:08:48,613 --> 00:08:51,283 I'm actually, uh, doing a little photo lab here 189 00:08:51,283 --> 00:08:53,577 to make a seed label. 190 00:08:56,204 --> 00:08:59,040 One thing I get disappointed with the new seed vendors, 191 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,625 they don't tell the history. 192 00:09:00,625 --> 00:09:01,793 Where did it come from? 193 00:09:01,793 --> 00:09:04,337 Did it come from Peru? Did it come from Ohio? 194 00:09:04,838 --> 00:09:07,007 What's the flavor like, you know? 195 00:09:07,007 --> 00:09:11,553 I feel it's a responsibility to paint a picture with words, 196 00:09:11,553 --> 00:09:13,346 paint a picture visually. 197 00:09:14,222 --> 00:09:15,849 NARRATOR: Jimmy Pickles was the second grower 198 00:09:15,849 --> 00:09:17,475 to get the call from Church's, 199 00:09:17,475 --> 00:09:20,770 and he wasted no time getting his JP Piranha ready 200 00:09:20,770 --> 00:09:22,939 for the bright lights of corporate America. 201 00:09:24,482 --> 00:09:27,360 Though he's primarily known for his rough-around-the-edges charm 202 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,070 and blue collar work ethic, 203 00:09:29,070 --> 00:09:30,488 if it were up to Jimmy, 204 00:09:30,488 --> 00:09:33,325 he'd be known as the Mozart of marketing. 205 00:09:39,706 --> 00:09:40,916 JIMMY PICKLES: Well, it all depends. 206 00:09:40,916 --> 00:09:43,001 Uh, this is a tiger jalapeno, 207 00:09:43,001 --> 00:09:47,005 so I'm-I'm using, uh... a tiger there, 208 00:09:47,005 --> 00:09:50,800 and I'm using a laser thing of my logo. 209 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,886 And what I'm doing on the left hand side 210 00:09:52,886 --> 00:09:54,888 will be the more ripe ones, 211 00:09:55,472 --> 00:09:58,183 and the right hand side will be less ripe. 212 00:09:58,183 --> 00:09:59,309 And I'll show you the difference. 213 00:09:59,309 --> 00:10:03,396 I'll put on the-- type of ripe, or partially ripe. 214 00:10:04,147 --> 00:10:06,858 And I try to tell a story with each seed back 215 00:10:06,858 --> 00:10:10,320 and, uh, hypnotize them a little bit into the pictures 216 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,572 for marketing to get higher sales. 217 00:10:12,948 --> 00:10:15,367 It's like, well, I guess, uh, we're playing with toys. 218 00:10:15,367 --> 00:10:17,202 [laughs] 219 00:10:17,577 --> 00:10:20,288 Every little thing here tells a story. 220 00:10:21,498 --> 00:10:26,253 Yeah, this, this was a prop for, uh, JP Piranha. 221 00:10:27,420 --> 00:10:31,007 NARRATOR: This silver piranha took Jimmy days to find online. 222 00:10:31,007 --> 00:10:33,176 But I mean, come on, look at those teeth, 223 00:10:33,176 --> 00:10:35,512 look at those eyes, it's perfect. 224 00:10:35,971 --> 00:10:38,265 It's that kind of detail he believes will introduce 225 00:10:38,265 --> 00:10:40,600 his prized superhot with a bang 226 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,018 and make it irresistible 227 00:10:42,018 --> 00:10:44,771 when the executives see it for the very first time. 228 00:10:44,771 --> 00:10:47,983 For the upcoming release of the JP Piranha, 229 00:10:48,733 --> 00:10:50,777 and I actually had water in here, 230 00:10:50,777 --> 00:10:53,947 and, uh, I had this suspended, 231 00:10:53,947 --> 00:10:55,490 I had a hook in here, 232 00:10:55,490 --> 00:10:56,783 there's a little hole in here, 233 00:10:57,075 --> 00:11:01,246 and it was jumping up catching the JP Piranha pepper itself, 234 00:11:01,246 --> 00:11:04,332 so I decided I wanted to step it up. 235 00:11:04,332 --> 00:11:07,335 My job is to be a trendsetter, 236 00:11:07,669 --> 00:11:09,004 and I'm creating the hype. 237 00:11:09,004 --> 00:11:11,381 People were like, "That's beautiful, we want it." 238 00:11:14,885 --> 00:11:16,761 NARRATOR: Making people want it, 239 00:11:16,761 --> 00:11:19,431 that's how you make money in the business of superhot. 240 00:11:19,931 --> 00:11:22,767 You can go for the mainstream, like fried chicken, 241 00:11:22,767 --> 00:11:26,730 or you can go to market with something designed to melt faces. 242 00:11:26,730 --> 00:11:28,815 JOHNNY: So this is where the crazy stuff happens. 243 00:11:28,815 --> 00:11:29,774 [ding] 244 00:11:32,903 --> 00:11:33,945 Here's a good example. 245 00:11:34,446 --> 00:11:37,240 Even the, the coffee we drink here is spicy. 246 00:11:38,783 --> 00:11:41,703 NARRATOR: While chili kingmaker Johnny Scoville is not a grower 247 00:11:41,703 --> 00:11:43,079 looking to create a sauce, 248 00:11:43,455 --> 00:11:45,749 he's in the business of heat. 249 00:11:45,749 --> 00:11:47,292 And this is his office, 250 00:11:47,292 --> 00:11:49,920 the place he comes to dream up new superhot products 251 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,630 that rewrite the boundaries. 252 00:11:51,630 --> 00:11:54,007 JOHNNY: Now, Blazing Foods is a company that specializes 253 00:11:54,007 --> 00:11:57,177 in spicy snacks, sauces, and such. 254 00:11:57,177 --> 00:11:59,721 If the set of Jackass was spice related, 255 00:11:59,721 --> 00:12:01,556 that would be what our office is during the week. 256 00:12:01,556 --> 00:12:04,601 Food glued. JOHNNY: Food glue. 257 00:12:04,601 --> 00:12:06,728 Food glued-- food glued. 258 00:12:07,729 --> 00:12:08,688 Here's your Ghost. 259 00:12:10,273 --> 00:12:11,566 And it's gonna be chunky. 260 00:12:12,025 --> 00:12:15,362 NARRATOR: Johnny, his partner David, and their team 261 00:12:15,362 --> 00:12:17,948 work with pepper powder, pure capsaicin, 262 00:12:17,948 --> 00:12:20,158 and whatever they can get their hands on. 263 00:12:20,158 --> 00:12:24,120 Levels of heat they create far exceed anything that grows naturally, 264 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,332 perfected by science to go thermonuclear. 265 00:12:27,332 --> 00:12:29,334 Most of the products you see in the stores 266 00:12:29,751 --> 00:12:32,087 are for real entrance-level people. 267 00:12:32,087 --> 00:12:33,713 If they say it's hot, it's really not. 268 00:12:33,713 --> 00:12:35,590 It may be hot for somebody who's never eaten anything hot before, 269 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:37,217 but we're kind of a chilihead company. 270 00:12:37,217 --> 00:12:39,678 It's like the Willy Wonka factory for spicy stuff. 271 00:12:39,678 --> 00:12:41,763 It is. Every day it's an experiment of something. 272 00:12:41,763 --> 00:12:44,224 You know, workin' there is, you know, you're a crash test dummy. 273 00:12:44,224 --> 00:12:45,267 That's all there's to it. 274 00:12:45,267 --> 00:12:47,394 You are. It's just-- you know, R&D is rough there. 275 00:12:48,228 --> 00:12:49,729 Cos Boy, come here a minute, 276 00:12:49,729 --> 00:12:51,982 I want you to try something. It's not that hot. 277 00:12:51,982 --> 00:12:54,442 COS BOY: Alright, here we go. [blows] 278 00:12:54,442 --> 00:12:55,694 It's gonna get toasty. 279 00:12:55,694 --> 00:12:56,945 [Johnny coughs] 280 00:12:56,945 --> 00:12:58,196 You bite into it already? 281 00:13:01,032 --> 00:13:03,159 ♪ intense music plays ♪ 282 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:05,203 [flames whoosh] 283 00:13:06,705 --> 00:13:08,623 - I'm gonna throw up. - You gonna throw up? 284 00:13:08,623 --> 00:13:10,333 I'm gonna throw-- It'll be alright. - Whew. 285 00:13:12,335 --> 00:13:13,837 My nose, my eyes. 286 00:13:13,837 --> 00:13:16,548 [Johnny coughs] 287 00:13:17,966 --> 00:13:18,967 Oh, wow. 288 00:13:19,801 --> 00:13:24,931 So it's about a three-- three grams per minute at 20% pepper. 289 00:13:24,931 --> 00:13:25,765 [Johnny groans] 290 00:13:25,765 --> 00:13:28,018 That's a lot of-- that's a lot of pure pepper. 291 00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:32,314 [Johnny retches] ♪ intense music plays ♪ 292 00:13:40,071 --> 00:13:43,909 ♪ suspenseful music playing ♪ 293 00:13:44,993 --> 00:13:48,079 NARRATOR: Welcome back to Jimmy Pickles' basement headquarters. 294 00:13:48,580 --> 00:13:51,625 It's where he grew his monster, the JP Piranha, 295 00:13:51,625 --> 00:13:53,251 under lock and key. 296 00:13:53,251 --> 00:13:56,671 And now it's where he'll sacrifice his own taste buds 297 00:13:56,671 --> 00:13:58,757 to better understand its potential 298 00:13:58,757 --> 00:14:01,051 before the upcoming Church's Chicken event. 299 00:14:01,593 --> 00:14:02,761 Alright, good enough? 300 00:14:05,764 --> 00:14:07,265 Hello, hello everybody. 301 00:14:08,558 --> 00:14:09,684 NARRATOR: It's been well established 302 00:14:09,684 --> 00:14:12,020 that the pepper world can be very cutthroat, 303 00:14:12,437 --> 00:14:15,065 so Jimmy won't trust anyone else to taste his pods 304 00:14:15,065 --> 00:14:17,859 as he works to assess the type of dipping sauce 305 00:14:17,859 --> 00:14:20,445 that best showcases its flavor and burn. 306 00:14:21,279 --> 00:14:25,909 Unfortunately, that means Jimmy's in for a world of hurt. 307 00:14:25,909 --> 00:14:30,455 So I am-- this is definitely gonna blow my top for a second here. 308 00:14:31,998 --> 00:14:34,501 So this is what we're looking at, that much. 309 00:14:34,918 --> 00:14:36,294 No time like the present. 310 00:14:36,294 --> 00:14:37,754 [pepper crunches] 311 00:14:37,754 --> 00:14:38,588 Sweet, 312 00:14:39,839 --> 00:14:42,884 little bit of floralness, instant heat. 313 00:14:42,884 --> 00:14:45,053 I mean, my eyes are red instantly. 314 00:14:45,637 --> 00:14:46,471 [exhales] 315 00:14:49,015 --> 00:14:49,849 Oh. 316 00:14:50,725 --> 00:14:51,685 Tongue's on fire. 317 00:14:52,394 --> 00:14:53,311 [flames crackling] 318 00:14:54,646 --> 00:14:55,772 Ho, ho, ho! 319 00:14:56,189 --> 00:14:57,649 I barely even ate any of it, 320 00:14:59,025 --> 00:15:00,652 and I'm just sweatin' profusely. 321 00:15:02,195 --> 00:15:03,780 [laughing] Man, oh, man. 322 00:15:04,489 --> 00:15:05,865 Man, oh, man. [hiccups] 323 00:15:06,825 --> 00:15:07,993 Here comes the hiccups. 324 00:15:07,993 --> 00:15:10,203 [hiccups] 325 00:15:10,203 --> 00:15:11,037 [clears throat] 326 00:15:13,790 --> 00:15:16,877 My tongue is on massive... massive fire. 327 00:15:17,294 --> 00:15:18,378 Oh, yeah, I'm in pain. 328 00:15:18,795 --> 00:15:19,588 [hiccups] 329 00:15:19,588 --> 00:15:22,799 Oh, enjoying my pain. 330 00:15:23,425 --> 00:15:24,968 [hiccups] Woo. 331 00:15:26,177 --> 00:15:29,347 NARRATOR: While Jimmy recovers from his pepper's impressive bite, 332 00:15:29,347 --> 00:15:32,142 Troy Primeaux is taking a more conventional approach 333 00:15:32,142 --> 00:15:33,351 to sauce development, 334 00:15:33,351 --> 00:15:35,687 firing up the stove instead of his mouth. 335 00:15:35,687 --> 00:15:37,814 TROY: I'm pulling up the, the recipe 336 00:15:37,814 --> 00:15:41,026 which is, um, gonna have 7 Pot Primo 337 00:15:41,026 --> 00:15:45,363 with, uh, with oranges and basil and all kind of good stuff. 338 00:15:46,406 --> 00:15:48,116 I'm just gonna weigh out these Primos. 339 00:15:48,116 --> 00:15:49,701 'Cause I don't think we need much. 340 00:15:49,993 --> 00:15:51,453 Oh, I might need more than I think. 341 00:15:52,037 --> 00:15:53,872 We can go grab a couple. - Are you sure that's right? 342 00:15:53,872 --> 00:15:55,832 Yeah, it's right, that's right, that's right. 343 00:15:55,832 --> 00:15:56,666 Nice work. 344 00:15:56,666 --> 00:15:58,460 [laughs] 345 00:15:58,460 --> 00:16:00,128 KARA PRIMEAUX: Friday morning fun. 346 00:16:00,128 --> 00:16:01,379 Okay, yeah, I think it's right. 347 00:16:02,714 --> 00:16:03,715 Alright. 348 00:16:06,051 --> 00:16:07,719 NARRATOR: With 7 Pots from storage, 349 00:16:07,719 --> 00:16:11,056 he and his wife Kara are toying with a variety of concoctions 350 00:16:11,056 --> 00:16:13,058 to figure out how best to showcase 351 00:16:13,058 --> 00:16:15,060 the Primo's mainstream potential. 352 00:16:15,477 --> 00:16:17,687 Do you need this to blend with the vinegar? 353 00:16:18,188 --> 00:16:19,064 Nah, that's cool. 354 00:16:19,064 --> 00:16:21,358 You have the-- we have some though to-to blend? 355 00:16:21,358 --> 00:16:23,026 Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right, right. 356 00:16:23,026 --> 00:16:23,944 Pour it in there, babe. 357 00:16:23,944 --> 00:16:25,904 I'm sorry, I'm talkin', I'm not thinkin'. 358 00:16:26,238 --> 00:16:28,240 Kara is the halo, and I'm the horns. 359 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,493 She's always gonna be rooted in reality more than I am. 360 00:16:32,202 --> 00:16:35,247 And that's a good thing, 'cause I'm totally like, dreamer, 361 00:16:35,580 --> 00:16:36,998 I'm a scatterbrain. 362 00:16:37,415 --> 00:16:38,833 She keeps me grounded. 363 00:16:39,751 --> 00:16:43,088 Drives me nuts sometimes, we drive each other nuts, 364 00:16:43,630 --> 00:16:46,216 but she's the yin to my yang. 365 00:16:46,216 --> 00:16:48,802 It's like you and I, side by side, 366 00:16:49,344 --> 00:16:52,430 and you've got these feathered angel wings on 367 00:16:52,430 --> 00:16:53,807 with the wire halo, 368 00:16:54,516 --> 00:16:56,476 and then, then I've got the, you know, 369 00:16:56,476 --> 00:16:58,478 the red plastic devil horns. 370 00:16:58,478 --> 00:17:00,272 KARA: Mm-hmm. - You know, and a pitchfork. 371 00:17:00,272 --> 00:17:01,815 I'm all over the place with my ideas. 372 00:17:01,815 --> 00:17:03,984 I'd like to come out with the Primo Army. 373 00:17:03,984 --> 00:17:06,653 I've been thinkin' about a website revamp. 374 00:17:07,070 --> 00:17:09,030 A YouTubes channel. 375 00:17:09,030 --> 00:17:11,032 But she hones me back in. 376 00:17:11,032 --> 00:17:13,243 It would be-- - How would it translate it to a bottle? 377 00:17:13,243 --> 00:17:15,787 She looks at what's happening now. 378 00:17:15,787 --> 00:17:19,124 What could you be using your time for more effectively? 379 00:17:19,124 --> 00:17:23,295 Oh, I think using a calendar, and, like, setting goals, 380 00:17:23,295 --> 00:17:27,007 saying, like, in three months I want to, like, have the website revamped, 381 00:17:27,007 --> 00:17:30,677 and, like, in the six months, this is my six-month goal and-- 382 00:17:30,677 --> 00:17:32,095 We're not made the same. 383 00:17:32,095 --> 00:17:34,139 That's a great idea, but how are you gonna do it? 384 00:17:34,139 --> 00:17:35,599 Right, right, right, right, right. 385 00:17:35,599 --> 00:17:37,183 She's kind of brass tacks-- - They're practical. 386 00:17:37,183 --> 00:17:38,268 TROY: Yeah. 387 00:17:38,268 --> 00:17:39,519 You know, we're different, you know? 388 00:17:39,519 --> 00:17:41,313 - Personalities are different. - Those kind of personalities 389 00:17:41,313 --> 00:17:42,772 are different. - They're complimentary, I think. 390 00:17:43,023 --> 00:17:45,817 TROY: She's got a palate that is unbelievable. 391 00:17:45,817 --> 00:17:47,819 She, she invented our pepper jellies, 392 00:17:47,819 --> 00:17:49,362 she invented our Primonition. 393 00:17:50,071 --> 00:17:52,115 Guess what? We started sellin' it. 394 00:17:52,949 --> 00:17:53,909 People loved it. 395 00:17:54,284 --> 00:17:57,454 NARRATOR: Finding the right balance of heat and flavor 396 00:17:57,454 --> 00:17:59,372 is essential for wide appeal. 397 00:17:59,706 --> 00:18:01,833 And while Troy knows the heat, 398 00:18:01,833 --> 00:18:05,337 Kara's lower threshold could be the key to threading that needle. 399 00:18:05,754 --> 00:18:06,671 KARA: Oh, those are good. 400 00:18:06,671 --> 00:18:07,923 TROY: They're, they're way-- 401 00:18:07,923 --> 00:18:09,758 - Yeah-- - It only needs to be like five seconds. 402 00:18:10,175 --> 00:18:14,679 For me, it's probably easier to have Kara make a sauce, 403 00:18:14,679 --> 00:18:15,680 and I can make it hotter. 404 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,142 It's easier to make a tasty sauce hotter 405 00:18:19,517 --> 00:18:22,270 than make a really hot sauce taste good. 406 00:18:22,270 --> 00:18:24,731 KARA: I'ma taste it, see how hot it is. 407 00:18:25,690 --> 00:18:27,525 Troy, that's so hot. Oh, my God. 408 00:18:27,525 --> 00:18:29,444 - Let me taste. - I don't know if it was that hot before. 409 00:18:35,867 --> 00:18:37,994 It's good. It's freakin' hot. [Kara laughs] 410 00:18:38,328 --> 00:18:39,162 KARA: I told you. 411 00:18:39,162 --> 00:18:40,080 It's good. 412 00:18:41,206 --> 00:18:42,916 Might have to scale back on the peppers. 413 00:18:42,916 --> 00:18:45,085 Just a little. [Troy laughs] 414 00:18:45,085 --> 00:18:47,420 ♪ playful music playing ♪ 415 00:18:53,009 --> 00:18:55,512 NARRATOR: While Troy and Jimmy toy with their superhots 416 00:18:55,512 --> 00:18:58,014 in anticipation of this unique opportunity, 417 00:18:58,515 --> 00:19:01,893 Johnny Scoville likes to toy with the unsuspecting public. 418 00:19:02,394 --> 00:19:04,563 To gauge how ordinary folks respond 419 00:19:04,563 --> 00:19:06,314 to the spicy cooks up at work, 420 00:19:06,314 --> 00:19:09,192 Johnny brings the heat to the streets. 421 00:19:09,192 --> 00:19:11,611 I never go anywhere without this. 422 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,698 And this is the Tube of Terror. 423 00:19:14,698 --> 00:19:15,991 This is actually, uh, you know, 424 00:19:15,991 --> 00:19:17,993 it's funny looking back on my kind of history 425 00:19:17,993 --> 00:19:19,744 and my, my career doing this, 426 00:19:19,744 --> 00:19:22,330 this has been instrumental in getting my name out there. 427 00:19:23,707 --> 00:19:26,376 You like spicy food? Do you like spicy food? 428 00:19:26,376 --> 00:19:28,128 Who likes spicy food? I got somethin' for you. 429 00:19:28,545 --> 00:19:30,005 You wanna be in a YouTube video? 430 00:19:30,797 --> 00:19:34,509 On it are about six or seven of the hottest peppers on the planet. 431 00:19:34,926 --> 00:19:37,596 Um, but to make it worse, we sprinkled 432 00:19:37,596 --> 00:19:40,432 a little 13 million-Scoville pure crystals on it. 433 00:19:40,432 --> 00:19:41,266 Thank you. 434 00:19:41,266 --> 00:19:43,435 Um, and they're just stupid hot, they're surreal. 435 00:19:43,435 --> 00:19:46,313 If you want to hallucinate, eat a whole tube of this and you will. 436 00:19:47,147 --> 00:19:48,356 Wanna be in a YouTube video? 437 00:19:48,356 --> 00:19:49,357 Do you really? 438 00:19:49,357 --> 00:19:51,151 Man, I'm gonna put you in a YouTube video. 439 00:19:52,319 --> 00:19:54,487 They're just peanuts, but they're really hot. 440 00:19:54,487 --> 00:19:56,531 This is the hottest peanut in the world. 441 00:19:57,657 --> 00:19:59,159 But listen, it won't hurt ya. 442 00:20:00,452 --> 00:20:04,080 It's become way more legendary than me. It's got a life of its own. 443 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,166 It's really recognized as one of the gnarliest, 444 00:20:06,166 --> 00:20:08,209 hardest chili challenges that exist. 445 00:20:08,209 --> 00:20:09,961 I'm Johnny Scoville, I'm with Chris. 446 00:20:09,961 --> 00:20:11,671 How you doin', big man? - Good, I'm good. 447 00:20:11,671 --> 00:20:13,506 Alright, so here we go, I'm just gonna let you have one. 448 00:20:13,506 --> 00:20:14,507 Here, I'll eat one with ya. 449 00:20:23,266 --> 00:20:24,434 Oh, Lord. 450 00:20:24,434 --> 00:20:25,518 JOHNNY: Is it hot already? 451 00:20:25,518 --> 00:20:26,895 Yeah. JOHNNY: No, is it really already? 452 00:20:26,895 --> 00:20:28,063 - It's warm. - Alright. 453 00:20:28,063 --> 00:20:29,648 - Ooh. - It's gonna get hotter. 454 00:20:29,648 --> 00:20:31,566 Good. Oh, my God. Okay. 455 00:20:31,566 --> 00:20:32,776 JOHNNY: Is it warm? - Mm-hmm. 456 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:34,736 Alright, now where's the burn happening, 457 00:20:34,736 --> 00:20:36,947 in your throat, the sides of your mouth? - Back of my throat. 458 00:20:36,947 --> 00:20:38,031 JOHNNY: Alright. - And the sides now. 459 00:20:38,031 --> 00:20:40,283 You're gonna start-- your eyes are gonna get glassy. 460 00:20:40,992 --> 00:20:42,369 I wasn't s-- Are-are-are you drivin'? 461 00:20:42,369 --> 00:20:43,245 No. JOHNNY: Good. 462 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:44,996 What the [bleep]. 463 00:20:46,539 --> 00:20:47,666 - Just a peanut. - Oh, God. 464 00:20:47,666 --> 00:20:48,541 Just a peanut. 465 00:20:48,917 --> 00:20:50,335 Is it warm? You gettin'-- Is it gettin' hot? 466 00:20:50,669 --> 00:20:52,546 Yeah. Whew! 467 00:20:54,130 --> 00:20:55,298 - Gonna be alright? - Yeah. 468 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,758 I'm good. Whew. 469 00:20:56,758 --> 00:20:58,802 Here's the great thing, here's the cool thing about this. 470 00:20:58,802 --> 00:21:01,221 I promise you, if you live to be 7,000 years old, 471 00:21:01,221 --> 00:21:02,097 you won't-- - Uh-huh. 472 00:21:02,097 --> 00:21:03,974 You will never forget this day, I promise you. 473 00:21:05,725 --> 00:21:08,144 I'm Johnny Scoville, that was Chris. 474 00:21:08,144 --> 00:21:09,604 This is Chase the Heat. 475 00:21:12,857 --> 00:21:16,027 ♪ calm music playing ♪ 476 00:21:16,027 --> 00:21:18,154 NARRATOR: Pennsylvania looks picturesque. 477 00:21:18,154 --> 00:21:20,115 It appears peaceful and quiet. 478 00:21:22,033 --> 00:21:25,370 But there is no telling what lurks behind closed doors 479 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:26,788 hiding in the shadows. 480 00:21:27,414 --> 00:21:33,295 [heavy breathing] 481 00:21:35,380 --> 00:21:36,840 Like Jimmy Pickles, 482 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,301 looking like Walter White strapped to the gas mask 483 00:21:39,301 --> 00:21:41,761 to withstand the Piranha's toxic fumes, 484 00:21:41,761 --> 00:21:45,265 as he processes pods for the upcoming Church's Chicken event. 485 00:21:45,765 --> 00:21:49,895 The reason I put on the gas mask and gloves and goggles, 486 00:21:49,895 --> 00:21:52,564 well, one, I care about my life, 487 00:21:52,564 --> 00:21:55,901 because that powder is just-just, it's potent. 488 00:21:55,901 --> 00:21:57,736 It's like almost a chemical burn. 489 00:22:06,286 --> 00:22:09,247 Sure we love it, the flavor, the chasin' the heat 490 00:22:09,247 --> 00:22:10,665 and all that other fun stuff, 491 00:22:11,041 --> 00:22:13,585 but it's not fun when your eyes are watering 492 00:22:13,585 --> 00:22:16,213 for two days straight and you're walkin' into a wall. 493 00:22:16,213 --> 00:22:18,006 Uh, you gotta take precaution. 494 00:22:18,006 --> 00:22:21,259 It's-It's not for the faint of heart, the superhots. 495 00:22:22,177 --> 00:22:23,929 NARRATOR: This is the very first time 496 00:22:23,929 --> 00:22:25,805 he'll be in front of a major buyer, 497 00:22:26,348 --> 00:22:28,892 so he's creating the freshest powder he can 498 00:22:28,892 --> 00:22:29,851 for his offering. 499 00:22:30,393 --> 00:22:32,938 JIMMY: People often ask if I'm a sauce maker. 500 00:22:32,938 --> 00:22:36,566 Actually, I got into the business to-to make sauces 501 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:40,528 and as I crunched numbers and tried to hire co-packers, 502 00:22:41,238 --> 00:22:45,283 the profit margins are not that-that great for independent sauce makers, 503 00:22:45,283 --> 00:22:50,455 but if you-you gear to a corporation like this, absolutely. 504 00:22:50,455 --> 00:22:52,249 NARRATOR: For a man who keeps to himself, 505 00:22:52,249 --> 00:22:53,875 this could be his opportunity 506 00:22:53,875 --> 00:22:56,378 to step out of the shadows and into the light, 507 00:22:56,378 --> 00:22:59,548 onto the big stage, where everybody will throw flowers 508 00:22:59,548 --> 00:23:00,799 and adore him. 509 00:23:01,383 --> 00:23:05,595 This could be the opportunity that changes his life. 510 00:23:05,595 --> 00:23:08,265 JIMMY: I'm being very protective of the JP Piranha. 511 00:23:08,265 --> 00:23:09,975 I'm not givin' it to anybody 512 00:23:09,975 --> 00:23:12,519 until it's out for the general public. 513 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:14,312 If it is the world's hottest, 514 00:23:14,312 --> 00:23:16,022 somebody could take their seeds, 515 00:23:16,022 --> 00:23:19,401 take the fortune and the glory, and it was my work. 516 00:23:20,777 --> 00:23:23,280 ♪ suspenseful music playing ♪ 517 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,740 NARRATOR: Church's Texas Chicken Sauce-Off 518 00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:27,492 is scheduled for this weekend, 519 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:30,829 but Troy Primeaux's already on the ground. 520 00:23:30,829 --> 00:23:34,749 He's arrived a few days early, not taking any chances, 521 00:23:34,749 --> 00:23:37,669 getting his ducks in a row before the big day. 522 00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:39,629 TROY: At first, it was Popeye's. 523 00:23:39,629 --> 00:23:43,425 Those guys approached me, and it was all on me to do it. 524 00:23:43,425 --> 00:23:46,887 And I-I just couldn't-- I mean, I couldn't get the help. 525 00:23:46,887 --> 00:23:50,432 I couldn't get the people to pick the plant-- uh, the-the pods. 526 00:23:50,807 --> 00:23:53,476 I couldn't get the equipment. 527 00:23:53,476 --> 00:23:57,188 Um... it just wasn't the right time. 528 00:23:57,188 --> 00:23:58,481 But as far as Church's, 529 00:23:58,815 --> 00:24:01,234 I don't know, I don't know a lot about what's goin' on. 530 00:24:01,234 --> 00:24:04,112 I do know that it involves a dipping sauce. 531 00:24:04,446 --> 00:24:07,699 And I thought, because Kara's comin', 532 00:24:08,074 --> 00:24:09,701 you know, let's do a jelly base. 533 00:24:09,701 --> 00:24:11,536 We did some tests at the house, 534 00:24:11,536 --> 00:24:14,205 and, uh, we went and bought some Church's Chicken, [chuckles] 535 00:24:14,205 --> 00:24:16,458 dipped it and did it, and it worked out. 536 00:24:16,458 --> 00:24:18,043 And I think, you know, with the, um, 537 00:24:19,044 --> 00:24:21,379 the seasoning that's already on the chicken, 538 00:24:21,671 --> 00:24:24,883 the sweet will compliment the salt, the salty sweet. 539 00:24:24,883 --> 00:24:28,178 It pairs well with, with the, um, the tenders. 540 00:24:28,595 --> 00:24:32,557 I mean, it's got big possibilities, huge possibilities, 541 00:24:32,557 --> 00:24:34,768 I mean, life-changing possibilities. 542 00:24:46,154 --> 00:24:50,325 We flew in a bunch of 7 Pot Primo mash and powders. 543 00:24:50,992 --> 00:24:56,331 Um, could you imagine if this-- that stuff busted, you know? 544 00:24:56,331 --> 00:24:59,292 Like two pounds of it in-in your suitcase. 545 00:24:59,292 --> 00:25:01,086 You'd be on-- you'd be on the news. 546 00:25:01,086 --> 00:25:02,671 And then this stuff. 547 00:25:07,050 --> 00:25:07,884 [sniffs] 548 00:25:07,884 --> 00:25:09,010 I wish you could smell it. 549 00:25:09,594 --> 00:25:11,805 These are Sansho peppercorns, 550 00:25:11,805 --> 00:25:13,974 and it makes your taste buds tingle. 551 00:25:14,933 --> 00:25:15,850 Electric. 552 00:25:18,770 --> 00:25:24,484 If a company has the courage to get behind an ultra-hot, 553 00:25:28,154 --> 00:25:29,030 it's huge. 554 00:25:30,991 --> 00:25:34,661 It is definitely a big thing for me to be here, 555 00:25:34,661 --> 00:25:36,955 for my family and I to be here 556 00:25:36,955 --> 00:25:39,374 to be participating in this. 557 00:25:44,504 --> 00:25:47,549 NARRATOR: When Church's Chicken looked into superhot creators, 558 00:25:47,549 --> 00:25:50,302 Troy Primeaux and Jimmy Pickles had the industry credit 559 00:25:50,302 --> 00:25:53,388 immediately worthy of an invite to the R&D summit. 560 00:25:54,014 --> 00:25:57,309 But the third and final grower required some research. 561 00:25:57,726 --> 00:25:59,769 Some were too bitter for commercial appeal, 562 00:26:00,103 --> 00:26:01,563 others weren't quite hot enough. 563 00:26:02,105 --> 00:26:04,274 But there was one other superhot, 564 00:26:04,649 --> 00:26:09,654 one that Johnny Scoville had reviewed as sweet, flavorful, 565 00:26:09,654 --> 00:26:12,115 and on the cusp of the hottest there is. 566 00:26:13,617 --> 00:26:15,410 The Orange Gusher. 567 00:26:15,827 --> 00:26:18,914 Bobby McFadden's creation delivered a citrusy flavor 568 00:26:18,914 --> 00:26:22,709 and high-level heat that could be the glass slipper. 569 00:26:23,168 --> 00:26:27,797 Listen, I started out as a guy just growing peppers 570 00:26:27,797 --> 00:26:30,091 and covering what I was doing and sharing that 571 00:26:30,091 --> 00:26:32,761 and teaching people to grow, I love that. 572 00:26:32,761 --> 00:26:37,307 But if I can do something with this that I can live off of, 573 00:26:37,682 --> 00:26:39,434 that is definitely a dream of mine. 574 00:26:39,434 --> 00:26:41,269 If-if somebody, like a large company, 575 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:44,064 wanted to pick up your-your pepper and go international with it, 576 00:26:44,064 --> 00:26:45,482 that would be a massive deal. 577 00:26:45,857 --> 00:26:48,735 NARRATOR: Though Bobby is a prolific grower of superhots, 578 00:26:48,735 --> 00:26:52,447 his pepper partner, Aurea, is his hot sauce secret weapon. 579 00:26:53,198 --> 00:26:56,201 Seriously, this lady knows hot sauce. 580 00:26:56,493 --> 00:26:58,370 He immediately called her to come along 581 00:26:58,370 --> 00:27:01,081 on this potentially career-defining adventure. 582 00:27:08,547 --> 00:27:13,009 I get a call from Bobby, and he said, "I-I have a pepper. 583 00:27:13,468 --> 00:27:16,179 "I have no experience with, um, you know, 584 00:27:16,179 --> 00:27:17,847 making a dipping sauce." 585 00:27:17,847 --> 00:27:21,309 So immediately my mind went racing, and I'm like, 586 00:27:21,309 --> 00:27:23,186 "So we're making a dipping sauce, 587 00:27:23,186 --> 00:27:26,231 you and I together, for Church's Chicken?" 588 00:27:26,731 --> 00:27:29,067 And he was like, "Yeah." 589 00:27:30,193 --> 00:27:32,445 He said, "We'll come up with a recipe." 590 00:27:32,445 --> 00:27:33,947 He just said it so casually. 591 00:27:33,947 --> 00:27:37,409 He's always the chill one in-in-in our, in our friendship, 592 00:27:38,034 --> 00:27:39,286 and so I started panicking. 593 00:27:40,537 --> 00:27:43,248 NARRATOR: The pepper world is undeniably cutthroat, 594 00:27:43,248 --> 00:27:45,709 but there's also a unique camaraderie, 595 00:27:45,709 --> 00:27:47,502 a bond that pepperheads share. 596 00:27:48,378 --> 00:27:51,006 Though Troy, Bobby, and Aurea are in direct competition 597 00:27:51,006 --> 00:27:52,591 for Church's business, 598 00:27:52,591 --> 00:27:55,260 Troy was happy to offer some advice to the newcomers 599 00:27:55,260 --> 00:27:57,554 before the event over a little lunch. 600 00:27:57,554 --> 00:27:59,472 TROY: Thank you, dear, appreciate it. 601 00:27:59,472 --> 00:28:01,808 AUREA DE GUZMAN: You don't hit a home run if you don't swing. 602 00:28:01,808 --> 00:28:02,726 That's why we're all here. 603 00:28:02,726 --> 00:28:04,811 I was, I was just thinkin' about that, too. 604 00:28:04,811 --> 00:28:06,521 You know, my buddy was sayin', you know, 605 00:28:06,521 --> 00:28:09,065 if you don't put your foot forward, 606 00:28:09,441 --> 00:28:13,028 even in hard times, or as crazy as the world is, 607 00:28:13,028 --> 00:28:17,741 if you don't put a foot forward and seize an opportunity, 608 00:28:17,741 --> 00:28:20,702 it's the people that do that that end up... 609 00:28:20,702 --> 00:28:22,454 AUREA: Mm-hmm. - ...on top, 610 00:28:22,454 --> 00:28:25,123 or at least in a right-- in a good situation, you know, 611 00:28:25,123 --> 00:28:26,791 for the business. AUREA: Yeah. 612 00:28:26,791 --> 00:28:27,709 They're the future. 613 00:28:27,709 --> 00:28:29,461 They-They're kinda like where I was 614 00:28:29,461 --> 00:28:31,588 when I started the 7 Pot Primo, 615 00:28:32,005 --> 00:28:33,965 and I can see myself in them. 616 00:28:36,509 --> 00:28:40,263 I want them-- I want-- I want to foster that imagination, 617 00:28:40,263 --> 00:28:42,432 I want them to keep pushin' the envelope. 618 00:28:42,432 --> 00:28:43,642 I want them 619 00:28:44,476 --> 00:28:47,562 to-to-to follow my lead 620 00:28:47,854 --> 00:28:49,814 and-and follow their dreams. 621 00:28:50,649 --> 00:28:52,651 The world is their oyster, you know? 622 00:28:53,401 --> 00:28:56,571 NARRATOR: Troy knows this could be a last big swing 623 00:28:56,571 --> 00:28:57,614 for the 7 Pot, 624 00:28:57,614 --> 00:28:59,824 while Bobby's just stepping up to the plate. 625 00:28:59,824 --> 00:29:02,744 But both the veteran and the rookie know 626 00:29:02,744 --> 00:29:06,039 that a home run here could change absolutely everything. 627 00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:08,583 It's a great honor, it's still surreal, 628 00:29:09,626 --> 00:29:12,295 but if I kind of think about it too much, 629 00:29:12,295 --> 00:29:13,755 I will cheese up. BOBBY MCFADDEN/AUREA: Yeah. 630 00:29:13,755 --> 00:29:17,008 What-- Like, how can you even explain the situation, you know? 631 00:29:17,008 --> 00:29:18,885 Like, you're being thrown into this 632 00:29:19,594 --> 00:29:21,388 once-in-a-lifetime opportunity 633 00:29:21,388 --> 00:29:23,598 t-to actually take control of your future, 634 00:29:23,598 --> 00:29:25,308 maybe be successful, you know, 635 00:29:25,892 --> 00:29:27,727 and it's just mind blowing. 636 00:29:27,727 --> 00:29:30,230 You know, we're here, it's an opportunity. 637 00:29:31,231 --> 00:29:32,065 [Troy sighs] 638 00:29:32,065 --> 00:29:34,568 Just it-it could-- life changing, 639 00:29:35,026 --> 00:29:35,986 you know? - Yep. 640 00:29:35,986 --> 00:29:37,445 It's kinda like eatin' a pepper, right? 641 00:29:37,445 --> 00:29:38,280 AUREA: Yeah. 642 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,906 You're gettin' on a rollercoaster 643 00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:43,076 and it's going to the top, it's gonna go no matter what, 644 00:29:43,076 --> 00:29:44,578 and they're not-- it's not gonna stop, 645 00:29:44,578 --> 00:29:46,871 so you might as well enjoy the ride. 646 00:29:46,871 --> 00:29:48,665 Just buckle up. TROY: Yeah, buckle up. 647 00:29:48,665 --> 00:29:49,749 Buckle up. TROY: Buckle up. 648 00:29:54,379 --> 00:29:56,423 NARRATOR: As Troy, Bobby, and Aurea buckle up 649 00:29:56,423 --> 00:29:57,465 for the ride ahead, 650 00:29:58,383 --> 00:30:01,177 the road suddenly gets a whole lot bumpier 651 00:30:01,177 --> 00:30:02,178 for Johnny Scoville. 652 00:30:02,178 --> 00:30:03,847 ♪ suspenseful music playing ♪ 653 00:30:03,847 --> 00:30:06,766 Every single comment is just shady. 654 00:30:07,684 --> 00:30:11,396 NARRATOR: As night falls, dark news sweeps across the chili world. 655 00:30:11,396 --> 00:30:13,189 An online wave of chatter 656 00:30:13,189 --> 00:30:17,360 making controversial allegations that cannot be ignored. 657 00:30:17,986 --> 00:30:20,864 JOHNNY: Right now, my phone's blowing up from so many people, 658 00:30:20,864 --> 00:30:22,991 from people that don't even know each other. 659 00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:25,493 You know, "You heard?" "Have you heard?" 660 00:30:25,493 --> 00:30:26,786 "What's going on with this?" 661 00:30:26,786 --> 00:30:28,204 [chat bubbles popping] 662 00:30:29,164 --> 00:30:31,625 I don't even know enough to even respond, so I'm just kinda keep-- 663 00:30:31,625 --> 00:30:33,585 I'm sayin' I'm doing some homework, I'm looking into it. 664 00:30:33,585 --> 00:30:36,463 But the problem is, people think that I know everything, 665 00:30:36,463 --> 00:30:37,297 and I don't. 666 00:30:37,297 --> 00:30:41,718 I keep my-- I keep my nose down, and I avoid this sort of crap. 667 00:30:42,177 --> 00:30:43,470 It makes me angry. 668 00:30:43,470 --> 00:30:44,471 I mean, really-- 669 00:30:45,263 --> 00:30:46,932 [chat bubbles popping] 670 00:30:46,932 --> 00:30:48,099 Really makes me angry. 671 00:30:48,433 --> 00:30:49,434 It's toxic. 672 00:30:49,434 --> 00:30:52,479 It'd be so much better if this was in somebody's inbox privately, 673 00:30:52,479 --> 00:30:54,981 but there's-- this is all over the internet right now, 674 00:30:55,482 --> 00:30:59,778 that potentially Jimmy's not the creator of the JP Piranha. 675 00:31:00,445 --> 00:31:01,863 [chat bubbles popping] 676 00:31:01,863 --> 00:31:04,574 NARRATOR: Johnny has helped his longtime friend, Jimmy Pickles, 677 00:31:04,574 --> 00:31:06,159 at every step of the way, 678 00:31:06,409 --> 00:31:09,120 even promoting his superhot repeatedly online. 679 00:31:09,454 --> 00:31:13,458 Even the slimmest possibility that Jimmy is not the Piranha's creator 680 00:31:13,458 --> 00:31:15,335 has Johnny spinning out. 681 00:31:15,335 --> 00:31:18,463 Everybody would then challenge everything Johnny has to say 682 00:31:18,463 --> 00:31:19,839 for the rest of time. 683 00:31:20,173 --> 00:31:21,258 Here's my issue, 684 00:31:21,591 --> 00:31:23,552 here I am lookin' to jump into this 685 00:31:23,552 --> 00:31:25,804 and really promote this pepper, alright? 686 00:31:25,804 --> 00:31:28,431 Really pu-- I'm co-signing on this, do you understand that? 687 00:31:28,431 --> 00:31:30,183 I'm co-signing, my name's on that. 688 00:31:30,725 --> 00:31:32,852 I've got a pretty good reputation in the chili world. 689 00:31:32,852 --> 00:31:34,646 You know, you can do it right a million times in a row, 690 00:31:34,646 --> 00:31:35,981 and no one remembers. 691 00:31:35,981 --> 00:31:38,316 Do it wrong once and see what happens. 692 00:31:38,316 --> 00:31:39,693 I'm not willing to do it wrong once 693 00:31:39,693 --> 00:31:43,113 on a pepper that has funky origins, I'm just not. 694 00:31:43,113 --> 00:31:46,741 I'm not lookin' to hang him, I'm not look-- I need answers. 695 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,411 I need to hear what he's got to say about this. 696 00:31:50,912 --> 00:31:53,373 I don't know what the truth is, and that's the problem. 697 00:31:53,373 --> 00:31:55,959 But the whole thing stinks, it smells very bad. 698 00:31:55,959 --> 00:31:59,045 ♪ intense music playing ♪ 699 00:32:01,631 --> 00:32:02,507 It sucks. 700 00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:04,342 [flames crackling] 701 00:32:04,342 --> 00:32:08,471 ♪ dramatic theme music playing ♪ 702 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:26,406 ♪ 703 00:32:26,406 --> 00:32:28,033 ♪ music stops ♪ 704 00:32:32,454 --> 00:32:34,456 [whistling]