"Between 1940 and 1943, more than 9,000 Spanish citizens
were interned in concentration camps
in Nazi Germany.
Most of them were Republicans who had fled to France
at the end of the Spanish Civil War.
Franco had the opportunity to avoid this deportation
through its agreements with Hitler's government,
but rejected that possibility.
After the end of the Second World War,
Spain did not take care of of the survivors.
In the 1960s, Spanish deportees
created an association
to fight against institutional neglect
to which they were subjected.
In 2005 they were dealt a severe blow."
Did you record sound?
A1-1, first.
Action.
(SPEAKS ENGLISH)
Are you okay, sweetheart?
(SPEAK ENGLISH)
(ENRIC) Look at that.
Catalan Butifarra sausage.
Thank you.
(SPEAK ENGLISH)
The number.
(SPEAK ENGLISH)
(E) I have already told you,
was going around all day sabotage actions all day long.
I was followed by the SS...
(SPEAKS ENGLISH)
(E) No, Kiel, I'm not going to know know where I came from.
(SPEAK ENGLISH)
And are you sure that it really happened as you have told it?
(E) Sure.
Pons Prades' book tells it differently.
(E) The book by Pons Prades, 30 years ago,
the book by Pons Prades. That book is nonsense,
is full of errors.
(Water running)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
(LAUGHING)
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(Bustle)
Happy New Year!
(APPLAUDING AND CELEBRATING)
Incredible how little young people know young people know about the fields
concentration, that's true.
Look, notice that a student believed that a crematorium oven
was something that is used in bakeries. (LAUGHS)
No, no, the teacher didn't know where to put herself.
Trying to explain that a cream oven
is not the same as a crematorium oven.
(E) Incredible how little idea they have.
In addition, teachers, wherever you go,
you get with "Life is beautiful", right?
I think children, the only thing they know
children of the holocaust
is because of this little movie. Man, it's not a little movie either, is it?
I think it's very good. (E) It's very good, he says.
Don't you realize what a manipulation this is?
It seems unbelievable how you can play with feelings
of the deportees in this manner.
Benigni this, cloying, let them believe it.
My uncle also liked it. (E) Gooey, huh?
How? Not your uncle. Not your uncle. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
He saw himself reflected in her.
(LAUGHING)
Totally.
No.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
(E) Yes, yes, yes, yes.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
And Zapatero is going to be there, right?
(E) It seems so. Very important.
The first time something like this has been done
in the Congress of Deputies.
Who would have a few years ago?
(E) Yes.
I want some nougat.
(E) Come on. Eat some nougat.
(THEY SPEAK AT THE SAME TIME)
(E) Please to eat nougat.
(Phone)
Yes, tell me.
Yes, on whose behalf?
Just a moment, please.
(KNOCKS ON DOOR)
For you, Enric.
(E) What?
Bermejo told me. I don't know if...
(E) Who? A historian.
(E) Tell him I am not here.
I told him that you are at home, Enric.
(E) Tell him I'm not here. That you are confused.
Forgive me. I thought you were at home, but I went out.
Can I leave a message for you?
Yes. 91...
(BENITO) Enric Marco, right? How are you? I'm Benito Bermejo.
(E) Ah, nice to meet you. (B) I was looking forward to meeting you.
I have read that you were in Flossenbürg, right?
(E) Yes. (B) Very few Spaniards
deported to Flossenbürg. (E) That would be 50.
(B) No, no, 140. I am a historian,
I am specialized in deportation.
(E) Ah, well, hey.
(B) In fact, Enric, if you have the time,
I would love to to chat with you for a while.
I am curious to tell me your story.
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) Do one thing. Why don't you call the association one day
and we meet and talk at length?
It's a crazy day. (B) Okay, that's great.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(B) Nothing, I'll call you then.
(E) Please, please. (B) Thank you very much. Thank you.
See you soon.
(E) What did you say your name was...?
(B) Benito. Benito Bermejo.
First thing this morning
arrived at the Congress of Deputies of Deputies the delegation
of the Spanish deportation during World War II.
Men and women who have experienced in their own flesh the hell
of the Nazi concentration camps. concentration camps.
Today, for the first time in 60 years, these surviving Spaniards
will receive recognition by the authorities
of our country.
(Bustle)
Relax.
(E) Yeah. Calm down.
Enric.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) We were drowning in our vomit
and our own feces.
After that...
We arrived at a concentration camp concentration camp
with all that coven and that stage performance
to which the Nazis were so fond of.
Dazzled by the spotlights, bitten by dogs,
assaulted by a people in a language we did not know.
What did we know about "links" or "rechs" or...?
What did we know we knew about all that.
The unfamiliarity of a few German words
could cost you your life.
They absolutely stripped us naked,
they took away all our belongings,
not only for reasons of rapacity,
but for leaving us totally unprotected.
The alliance, the chain,
the slightest photograph, alone, unprotected.
And nothing, nothing that could remind you of the outside,
nothing that could remind you of someone's tenderness
that allowed you to go on living in hope
that you would never get back.
And then...
Then, what was the after,
you can imagine.
I am not going to make a protocol speech,
perhaps my words are not so heartfelt.
We did not have a government government to help us in a country
to which the Jewish people return...
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
Sorry, look, Enric,
I would like to introduce Bernardino León,
Secretary of State of Foreign Affairs.
Pleased to meet you. You gave a great speech.
(E) Man, coming from you, your honor.
Mr. León was telling me that they are very sensitive
with our theme, right? -No doubt.
And I wanted to tell you in this regard that the new government
wants to place special emphasis on
in what we call historical memory.
(E) Well, you have not started off on the right foot.
We are disappointed because we expected
that President Zapatero was here today.
The president is very sorry he could not be present
here today because it is in Chile.
But rest assured that this whole subject
is not indifferent to it.
(E) Well, I don't know if you know that this year is the 60th anniversary
of the liberation of the Mauthausen camps.
Of course, the field of the Spanish.
(E) And we are going to do something big with our French colleagues,
exhibitions, lectures.
About 30,000 deportees are expected to attend about 30,000 deportees
and family members from all over the world.
We are trying to see if it can be that for the first time
Spain presides over the event. (E) We want Zapatero to come.
Well, José Luis has a very busy schedule.
(E) It is a great opportunity for you to demonstrate
who really cares about about this whole historical memory thing.
There are many people in this country
who does not know that there were many Spaniards in the camps
Nazi concentration camps.
Let's do one thing.
I get Spain to preside to preside over the events this year
and you convince Zapatero to come.
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
Can I have a coffee, please? -Yes, of course.
Enric, I'm going to work. (E) Okay.
I have left food for you.
Are you going to be okay?
(E) Yes.
See you later.
Benito Bermejo? (B) "Yes, it's me."
(E) Hello, how are you? Enric Marco.
I have heard rumors that you have doubts about my past.
(B) "Yes, hello, Enric, that's right."
(E) Let me speak to me first.
I know you're digging around, which is fine with me,
is what historians have to do.
And I wanted to tell you that I am ready
to clarify any doubts you may have.
But beyond this, all this has led me to think
that perhaps from the association
we haven't behaved not been entirely good to you.
(B) "No, no..." (E) Perhaps we have not granted you
the place you deserve, right? And in that sense...
I feel a mea culpa.
(B) "No, no, no, Enric, really.
I have nothing to blame the association for."
(E) I do, I do.
(B) "What I can tell you right now
is that the best thing you and I can do
is to meet as soon as possible and talk.
You see, Enric, I have found sensitive information about you."
(E) How?
(B) "I know you are lying.
I know he did not travel forcibly to Germany."
(E) On what basis do you to say that?
(B) "Well, I base on a report I have found
and that proves that you traveled to Germany
within the framework of a collaboration agreement
between Franco and Hitler, between Spain and Germany."
(E) I don't know what agreement you are talking about.
(B) "I think that you do know, Enric."
(E) You are making a mistake, Benito, that's for sure.
And in any case, these things are best done face to face,
in a chat, quietly, over a cup of coffee.
(B) "Yes, yes, I totally agree, Enric. totally agree, Enric.
Look, next week, in fact, I have to travel
to Barcelona to give a talk. If you want to..."
(E) I can't next week.
But I intend to go to Madrid to go to Madrid at the end of the month,
maybe we can meet and work it all out.
(B) "Yeah, well, that."
(E) Until then I would ask you not to spread things
that are not true. (B) "Enric, I just..."
(E) (HANG UP)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(ALL) Amnesty! Freedom! Amnesty! Freedom!
(ALL) Amnesty! Freedom!
(ALL) They shall not pass! They shall not pass! They shall not pass!
(ALL) They won't get through! They won't get through! They shall not pass! They shall not pass!
(JADEA)
Thank you.
(E) Ferran.
Enrique.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
Well, as you can see,
today we have brought comrade Enrique here today
to tell us a little bit of his story.
He is going to tell us a little bit about his experience
in the underground.
In fact, he was recently recently been released from prison.
In fact, Enrique told us
who has suffered harsh interrogations interrogations, including torture.
So you have a lot to tell us.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) Well...
Let's see, you do not perceive it that way
because you have not lived anything else.
But we live under an implacable dictatorship.
Have you heard heard of UJA?
Of course, of course.
UJA, Union of Antifascist Youth.
We created it after the war
to fight against Franco from within.
I myself set up the Barcelona section
recruiting people here and there.
A few months go by,
we were detained all of us, except me,
because I was late, because I was coming from one of my appointments.
(LAUGHING)
What happened is that at that time
I had to flee the country, I had to leave Spain.
And how did you get out of the country?
(E) Now that that is a long story.
Well, anyway, I'll tell you about it,
but in any case I ended up in Germany,
where I was imprisoned for high treason.
Anyway, but my time in Germany in Germany were not exactly
a vacation.
Some of us have lived through more than one war.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
See you later. - See you later.
Yes, of course.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) Do you know how many Jews they managed to kill?
6.000.000. But how is that going to be?
6,000,000 or two-thirds of the Jews of all Europe.
Many Spaniards died. People need to know this.
Nothing, you go about your business.
(E) (WHISPERING) People need to know this.
Come on, in 15 minutes Tata and Jose will be up.
You will see what you do,
but today I do not run out of hot water.
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
And how do they look at you?
(E) Envy.
But what are they going to envy you? If they are loaded with money.
(E) I believe that they feel guilty
because their parents have done well with Franco.
They would kill to be what I am. Oh yeah? And what are you?
(E) A fighter.
A fighter!
A ghost, that's what you are.
I haven't seen that you have done anything
against Franco. (E) What do you know.
Mommy! -I'm coming, I'm coming, Carmencita.
Come on, get dressed.
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) It is not easy.
Enric.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
"If I tell them yes and then it doesn't come,
we make fools of ourselves."
(E) Yes, Silvia, look, you tell the organizers
that Zapatero will come and that being so,
this year, it is expected that this year will be the Spanish delegation
Who presides over the proceedings. "But what if then he doesn't come?"
(E) Silvia, listen to me.
Listen to me carefully.
Zapatero is coming.
I can tell you no more.
You understand me, don't you?
(SIGHS) "It's okay.
I'm going to talk to them and I'll let you know if we make it."
(E) Very well, thank you. "To you."
Another thing, the talks in high schools.
There are two, Badalona and Cervelló.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
(E) Cervelló and I'm going, that was last year
and they were very happy, I know.
I'd rather you stay with me
to prepare the dossier, let Pere go,
who has nothing to do. (E) I can do both.
Man, I'm here doing nothing.
I am free.
(E) When he wants to, he hears well.
In principle, let Pere go.
Ready.
Are you still here?
(E) I am writing a press release,
in case Silvia gives us good news from Mauthausen.
But there will be time.
Go home, you've been here all day.
(E) No, it doesn't matter.
If you want me to go to the schools,
you just have to say... Again with that.
(E) Sure, sure. Let's see, let's see, between you and me.
Let's see.
Pere, without a doubt, is a great person
and I have infinite respect for him,
but, frankly, have you heard him speak?
Did you hear his speech?
Bored to tears.
I'm sorry to be so crude, but that people go out
disappointed, that is unforgivable,
with the history it has.
I have been president of the president of the association
and I have the feeling that... You get very involved.
We have never had as much visibility as we do now.
That's thanks to you. But the health that...
(Phone)
(E) Yes, tell me.
Yes, it's me.
Tell me, Silvia.
Can you confirm this confirm this 100%?
Thank you very much.
Yes. (E) Please.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
For the first time in history,
the Spanish deportees have been elected to preside
commemorative events
of the liberation of the Mauthausen camp.
The news came as a surprise two days ago
to this local located in a central neighborhood
of Barcelona. Everyone here is trying to digest
what they consider to be
the best news they could receive.
Isn't that right, Clara?
How did you feel when you learned that the Spanish deportees
were going to preside over nothing more and nothing less than these events?
Well, the first thing I felt was the feeling of...
Well, from a sense of of honor
and also of great responsibility,
is going to be the whole world watching us
and we have to do it very well
For the... For the Nazi horror
of all the... Those who were there,
of all the Spaniards who were there.
Okay. Very good.
We got it. -Haven't I been too tense?
Yes, I mean, you've done phenomenally well.
(E) Excuse me, isn't it going to look a little fake?
No, you edit this later and it's super-credible, really.
Shall we do some recursions or something? -Come on.
"And we have to do it well for all Spaniards
who suffered the Nazi horror.
Enric Marco, president of the Association
of Deportees and representative of all of them,
is especially especially touched by this achievement.
(E) It will be a great speaker, but one thing must be made clear.
Be the president of the greatest nations
or a child who goes to a small neighborhood school,
the passion we put into we put into transmitting
our story is the same."
What a sentence...
"It is impossible not to shudder at the stories that Enric Marco
tells us.
Like that game of chess that could have changed his life.
(E) I was teaching to play to a colleague
when suddenly I saw a shadow on the board.
I looked up and saw an SS."
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
(E) "In fact, my partner sat down
and told me to keep playing.
And I remember that at the time, I thought:
Now is the the time of the gods'.
I was winning one by one all the pieces.
He was no match for me.
Until finally I left him alone with the king.
And I knocked down the king truly knowing
that it could cost me my life my life, but that was the moment
I regained my dignity."
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
That day I regained dignity.
I won the battle of Stalingrad.
What stories.
Well, just to finish.
What would be the profile of of the Spanish deportees
who were imprisoned there in Mauthausen, for example?
How? parsley? (E) The profile.
The profile of deportees.
Frankly, you can't understand
because, frankly, it's a long way off, but...
(E) Yes, where is this going to come out?
This is for the Bajo Aragón of Lower Aragon.
(E) Very good.
Yes, but you have not published that Spain will preside over the events
for the first time. In May, when the events will be held,
We will certainly talk about it.
(E) (SIGHS)
I see that things don't change.
Then you will come that "at last we give you
the place you deserve". and so on and so on and so on.
Do I have to kill someone
so that you will listen to me? Let's see, Enric,
you can't pretend to be there every day
in the media.
(Mobile)
(E) Yes, tell me. "Enric Marco?"
(E) Yes. "One moment, please.
I'll put you through to Mr. Leon."
"Enric? Hello, I'm Bernardino León."
(E) Yes, when the secretary told me
"I didn't know whether to expect a roar, I didn't know whether to expect a roar.
(LAUGHS) "I am the one from Congress". (E) Yes, yes, I was kidding.
Yes, well, you've got us on tenterhooks.
What's new?
"Yes, the president will gladly attend the event.
Right now you symbolize all that
what our government wants to fight for. our government wants to fight for."
(E) Do you really mean it? "Listen to me, Enric.
We want it to have the projection it deserves."
(E) Clara! Santi! Congratulations.
For the association. -For all.
I wouldn't give a penny, huh? I also tell you.
The only one who had it clear, from the beginning.
We have to get to work,
that time is running out time is running out.
First of all, you have to decide who is going to give
the speech at Mauthausen.
(E) Me as you wish.
Well, I think you are the right person, Enric.
You know Mauthausen, you are in the International Committee.
In addition, he has already speech in Congress.
For me it is you, Enric. (E) Me as you wish.
If you want me to do it, I'll be happy to do it.
Let's see, frankly,
I think it's much better someone else to do it
who has been in Mauthausen, not in another camp.
And who do you propose? -Eusebi Pérez.
He's a good candidate, isn't he? -Ah, Eusebi. Eusebi, yes.
(E) Sure, Eusebi. Yes, it is very good.
Eusebi is doing very well.
A great person, he has suffered a lot and deserves it, without a doubt.
Of course it is.
A speaker...
Not someone who who has a way with words
and I don't know if we would be missing an opportunity to launch
a strong message. That is to say, truly
other factors other factors must be taken into account,
not just to have been there.
Are you telling me that it is of no importance
having been in Mauthausen?
Having suffered and witnessed all the horrors witnessed all the horrors
indescribable that have been suffered there
It's not important? -Pere, no, no...
Is that what you are saying? (E) No, no.
What I am saying is that sometimes it is more important
how they tell it to you than who tells it to you.
What's the use of having been there if you don't know how to count it,
You do not know how to transmit, you do not move?
But I say that... I think we should take advantage
that we are going to have all the media on our side.
In this area, Enric moves very well.
Besides, I don't think there is that much difference between Mauthausen
or Flossenbürg. -I also vote for Enric.
I think it's the best.
(E) In this case, I will start preparing the speech.
I want it to be a consensual speech.
This is not Enric Marco speaking.
There are about 9000 Spanish deportees who speak through their mouths
by Enric Marco. Let that be clear.
How beautiful it is!
But how can it be so precious?
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
Oh, how precious!
He laughed. -Yes.
Go to your grandmother.
Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see, with grandma.
(CRIES)
It's a good thing you didn't give birth at home.
(E) Much better, and I am telling you that someone who was born in the asylum.
April 14, 1921,
10 years before before the arrival of the republic.
My mother was admitted seven months pregnant,
in Sant Boi and never left again.
Enric, for God's sake, that the protagonist today
is the child.
Really.
Enric. Enric.
(E) Look how he moves his little hand. Look how he came out as a communist.
(LAUGHING)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
Enric.
I have already finished proofreading.
Shall we have dinner?
(E) Yes.
A speech?
(E) An outline.
A little too solemn, isn't it?
A little bit theatrical.
(E) What do you mean?
Well, you tend to embellish the stories a little bit, don't you?
(E) Ah, that's good, isn't it?
Come on, let's go to dinner.
(E) Laura,
How did you see Aina?
Okay. Why? (E) I don't know.
All this talk of postpartum about postpartum depression...
She has just given birth, Enric.
(E) I am afraid it will fall again.
But he is perfectly fine. He is stronger than ever.
We have a beautiful grandson.
We are doing well.
(E) Yes, right? I'm afraid of things in my head.
Well, don't make stories where there are none.
Come on, let's go to dinner.
Here. We hit it here. Hello.
(E) You are here...
Can you take the fax, please?
Here. Now, you hit it there.
What is it? (E) No, propaganda.
Propaganda?
By fax?
Here.
(E) It has cost us to get here,
possibly more than the deportees
from any other country. we would like to thank
President Rodríguez Zapatero, I will still name him,
José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, a president who a few months ago
restored peace in Spain
by withdrawing troops from the from the Iraq war.
We Spaniards were the first to enter Mauthausen. to enter Mauthausen.
Enric... Are you sure?
Are you going to get involved in the Iraq issue?
Do you think that will matter to those to those gathered there?
Benito Bermejo on the phone.
(E) Tell him I can't. Enric, he has called several times.
I don't know what to say to him anymore. -Bermejo the historian?
Yes. -Enric, you're going to call back, huh?
I mean, what do you want me to do? Because I don't know what to say to him.
(DISCUSS)
(E) Because I can't!
Tell him we can't now. Tell him I'll call him later.
Do me a favor, Santi.
You were saying?
We were deviating from what is historical memory
to enter into a subject that I do not know if it is relevant.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) (JADEA)
(B) "Yes?" (E) Enric Marco.
(B) "Hello, Enric."
(E) I haven't called you until now because we have a lot of work to do.
But I want you to know that I have no problem talking to you.
What happens is that just now that we know
what is going to happen in Mauthausen
with the presence of the President of the Government,
with Rodríguez Zapatero and others,
understand that we have to focus on that. that we have to focus on that.
(B) And are you going to give the speech?
(E) If my colleagues my colleagues, yes. Why?
(B) "Don't do it, Enric, please.
If it does, the consequences can be dire."
(E) Is that a threat?
(B) "Look, you take it as you wish.
I only tell you that either we meet
immediately or I won't have any left..."
(E) Benito, what are you looking for?
To be the great historian, everyone talking about you?
the great historian Benito Bermejo discovered
that Enric Marco did not go to Germany this way,
but on this other side.
(B) "But what are you saying?"
(E) Are you willing to besmirch the good name of the association
for your five minutes of glory?
Just now, when the deportees
are about to get the tribute they deserve?
Is that it? Do you know the damage you would do, not just to me,
but to all deportees? of the deportees?
(E) "Don't go off off on a tangent,
it's not about me or the deportees,
this is about you, by Enric Marco
and what Enric Marco is doing."
(E) This is very large for the association
and for all of Spain. Watch out, Benito,
be careful or you will regret it.
(B) How?
(E) (HANG UP)
Enric Marco.
And the last one.
Enric Marco.
With 92 percent of the votes of the votes, Enric Marco
will continue to be the president of the association.
(APPLAUD)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(E) What's up? What's up? How's it going?
Is something wrong?
Well, something seems to be happening, yes.
Santi has received a report from Benito Bermejo.
(E) Again, right?
I just don't know what to do with this man.
I don't know if it's about me anymore, it's about the association...
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
I have read it.
Well, Santi, now is not the time to talk about it.
Send me the report when you get home.
We all meet tomorrow afternoon at headquarters. Yes?
Very good.
(E) Good evening, Bernardino.
Sorry to call you on a Sunday at this hour.
(B) "Please, Enric.
I told you that you could call me whenever you wanted.
How did the assembly go?"
(E) Good, good. I have been elected president again.
(B) "Great. I'm glad."
(E) So, everything okay?
(B) "Yes, yes, yes.
But you called me. Everything okay over there?"
(E) Yes, yes, fine. With the last minute tensions,
but nothing that can't be solved.
The day after tomorrow we travel to Austria.
We have a meeting on Wednesday to finalize the preparations.
(B) "Mm. Very good.
I will arrive Wednesday night.
We will see you there.
The president is very excited about these events."
Apparently they came looking for you at your house
because you had not to do your military service.
Your family said that you were working
in Germany.
To check if this was true, from the military region
of Barcelona launched the consultation
to the Ministry of Foreign of Foreign Affairs.
And here is the answer.
The ministry said yes, that you did indeed offer
volunteer as labor.
And in case we don't realize what this means,
Bermejo has attached some photos of when they left for Germany.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
The train left on November 27, 1941 1941 from the France station,
in Barcelona, with destination to the city of Kiel, Germany.
Enric, is this so?
(E) (WHISPERING) Yes.
On board were 650 Spanish workers
that would be incorporated as a labor force
in German companies.
In the middle of World War II.
These employees would work manufacturing arsenal
for the Nazi army. -Manufacturing weapons?
Fuck. (E) May I speak? (E) It's true.
I went on that train, but what could I do?
I had to leave the country. The police were chasing me.
It was the best way I found to leave the country.
But then, why did I end up in Flossenbürg?
Because I rebelled.
Are you sure you were in Flossenbürg?
(E) No, I don't allow that.
As it turned out, I wasn't in Flossenbürg I wasn't in Flossenbürg either.
Of course I was in Flossenbürg. There you have it.
Deported 6448.
Bermejo's report does not that Enric Enric was not
in Flossenbürg. He just didn't go to Germany
as a deportee.
But who took this for granted?
This is nothing more than a photocopy of the registry.
It is not the official official certificate of the field.
(E) There's my name.
Why don't you have an official certificate
like everybody else? (E) There's my name. That's right.
I went as a volunteer worker to Germany with Franco.
Yes, that's true, but why did I end up in Flossenbürg? did I end up in Flossenbürg?
Because first I was taken to prison in Kiel,
there was a trial and I ended up in Flossenbürg.
That is the way it is. That's the way it is.
Why didn't you say so from the beginning?
(E) I don't know.
N... I don't know.
People were waiting... I had a reference in me.
They wanted someone to give them strength
to fight against Franco and I don't know how...
How is it going to be said that he had volunteered
to Germany? Well, I lied.
And have I maintained that lie to this day?
Well, yes, yes, and I regret it.
And now I am going to confess something else that I didn't have to confess to you,
but you are like family
and in you I can trust.
I had another woman
and a daughter and I abandoned them. (CRIES)
But please don't tell Laura,
I want you to hear it through my mouth.
These lies weigh heavily on me, but from there to say
that I was not imprisoned in Germany...
Well, of course I was imprisoned in Germany and... (CRIES)
I believe it I was imprisoned in Germany.
But hey, I failed you.
I regret it. And I will never forgive myself.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
Right, right.
That's it, that's it, that's it. (SIGHS)
We are done.
And no more lies, that's it.
Do we know who else received this report?
Yes, he told me he was going to send it to the Presidency of the Government,
to the Generalitat and other deportees.
So we have to to talk to the government
and with the Generalitat.
And if they had not received the report, right?
What do you mean?
You just said we can talk to them
because they received the report. If not, we would still be
with Enric's lie? -I didn't mean that.
You just said it. -No, don't mess with me.
You just said it. -I didn't mean that.
You said. -Hey, Santi,
This is too big for us.
To all.
I am trying to see what we can do.
I am not an expert.
Do you know what we have to do? to do? You tell me.
Everything is ready. Zapatero is going to be there.
What do we do?
It is a priority that nothing to cloud the celebrations.
I think that, for the time being, even if we don't say anything,
Enric cannot continue as president.
Pere is right.
Let's vote.
Votes in favor of relieving Enric of his position.
Enric, you are relegated of all your functions
as president of the association.
As vice-president, I will assume I will take over the functions for the time being,
Do you agree?
Tomorrow we call the presidency
and the Generalitat and let's see what they think.
Give me the telephone number of Bernardino León, please.
(E) No, let me me to call him, please.
Come on, Enric, now. Give me the phone.
Hello. (E) Hello.
I am making omelet.
Oops.
What's wrong with you?
(E) Nothing.
Are you ok?
(WHISPERING) Everything is going to be fine.
Come on, help me.
Come in, come in.
(E) Hi, what's up? How are you? Good morning.
But you come to Mauthausen?
(E) Of course. Didn't you have to come or what?
I thought yesterday we had agreed not to.
(E) That he was not president,
but not that he didn't have to come, right?
One second.
Hi. What's up? -How was your trip?
We are in a hurry. We are in a hurry, the meeting
of the International Committee starts in one hour.
(E) Come on, let's go there. No, Enric, you are not coming.
You'd better stay in your hotel room.
They are having meetings in Barcelona.
When we have something you need to know,
we will inform you. Let's go.
(Ringing tone)
(E) Bernardino, what's up? How are you? I am Enric Marco.
You will see that you have several calls from me.
I'm calling you from Linz.
Some of us from the association are already here,
at the hotel in Linz.
I seem to remember you said you were arriving today.
Well, call me when you can. I have something to tell you.
My room was 312.
(SPEAK GERMAN)
(SPEAK ENGLISH)
(E) Let's go.
Good.
Enjoy.
(E) Thank you. You are welcome.
(E) Have you been down for a while?
Half an hour ago.
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
A while ago, on the afternoon flight.
(E) How did the meeting go?
We were right in deciding not to come.
They knew about you.
(E) Who leaked it?
We have not been there.
(E) Are you sure?
Enric, it must have been Bermejo. But that doesn't matter now.
(E) I don't care.
I've been in the room alone in the room alone, blind.
Nobody tells me anything, nobody picks up my phone.
Can you tell me something?
In Barcelona they have been talking to the Generalitat
and with the government and all are in agreement
with the fact that right now the essential thing is to save the Mauthausen acts.
So for the time being nothing will be said for the time being.
(E) Okay.
They have decided to remove you from everything related to the events.
So you're out.
(E) And who is going to give the speech?
Eusebi Pérez.
(E) If I bother, I leave.
If I'm here bothering you, I get my stuff and...
Enric, don't go there.
Enric, were you in Flossenbürg?
(E) Again with that, please. Can you provide evidence?
Real proof that you were in Flossenbürg that you were in Flossenbürg?
Yes or no. (E) When I get home,
I will manage to get the evidence.
No, it has to be today.
Zapatero's team has said that if all this is not cleared up
with all the guarantees, Zapatero will not appear at the event.
So new opportunity, Enric.
Were you in Flossenbürg? (E) Fucking yes!
Forgive me, I don't know how to say it.
This is harassment and demolition, it seems to me.
We have sent your registration photocopy
to the Flossenbürg camp.
Yes, we have asked them if, as the photocopy and as indicated in the photocopy,
the prisoner number, 6448, corresponds to Enric Marco.
We are waiting for a response.
You will be able to confirm it, Enric.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
(E) No.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
Pere, take it easy.
Be calm?
He has been on the verge of making some speech on our behalf.
Do you understand?
(SPEAK ENGLISH)
Gracia, come with me. -Yes, I'm coming.
Where are you going, Enric? (E) I have to talk to him.
No, no, no, Enric. (E) Please, let me.
Enric, you're not going. Sit down.
He said he doesn't want to see you.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
(CRIES)
Enric?
Well, what are you doing here? (E) I don't feel well.
The doctor told me that I have to rest.
What doctor? (E) I'm going to get into bed.
How?
Enric?
(E) Leave me alone.
"I bow with my respect
in the name of all the Spanish people.
This is the first time that a representative
of the Government attends a tribute of this kind.
Enric Marco, president of the president of the Association
of Spanish Deportees, to speak alongside Zapatero,
but he has returned to Barcelona suddenly
because he was indisposed.
In his place Eusebi Pérez spoke,
one of the deportees who lived in his own flesh
Nazi barbarism.
We Spaniards were the first to enter to enter Mauthausen
and the last to leave,
because no country claimed us.
No one recognized our history
while we saw that in one country and in another
honored and entertained the survivors
concentration camps.
5000 of them never left here.
For them enrollment was completed
that was on this door, a quote from Dante's Inferno.
'Ye who enter, leave here all hope'.
At least 20 people have been killed and 25 others have been injured
after the explosion a car explosion in a neighborhood..."
"I, Enric Marco Batlle,
I would like to acknowledge the following points.
One, to have left to Germany on an expedition
of Spanish workers at the end of 1941..."
"Let's talk about now about a lie,
that of Enric Marco, the president of the main association..."
"Two, not having been in the camp of Flossenbürg
despite having been imprisoned on remand preventive imprisonment
and under the accusation of conspiracy
Against the Third Reich."
"... Tributes to the victims of the Nazi Holocaust."
"How has he fooled so many people for so many years?"
"A terrible lie. -It was all made up.
It was all a sham."
"Three, having returned to Spain at the beginning of 1943
After being released."
"For 30 years, he has lectured,
has even written..."
"Four, to have made public my biography with aspects
that distort reality in 1978,
long before my involvement with the to the Association of Deportees,
which is limited to the last six years."
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
He says he lied to better convey better convey the horror of the Holocaust.
(RADIO) "The lie was confessed by Marco himself
after a historian noted the incongruities historian noticed the incongruities
of his testimony. Historian Benito Bermejo
has not yet wanted to to make a statement..."
From the association we want to make clear
that this case should not cloud the work we are doing.
Deportation is far above deception
of a person, but it is evident
that the damage this can do is enormous.
This is fodder for the denialists.
(Phone)
"And five.
As a consequence, I hereby resign from my positions
and I am suspending my activities in the Association
Spanish Deportees. On May 9, 2005 in Barcelona."
(E) (BREATHE)
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
Daughter, hey, stop it. -No, okay, no. Okay, no.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
Calm down, please, we're not going to fix anything this way.
No, it's just that I I don't want to fix anything.
I just want him to ask for forgiveness and that's it.
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
No one knows what I have suffered.
(SPEAKS IN CATALAN)
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
What about you? You don't say anything, do you?
You are silent, as always, looking aside every time
who lies. (E) (SPEAKING IN CATALAN)
I knew something like this could happen.
I knew. That you believed that you were fooling everyone
and what you didn't know is that they were cheating on you,
making you believe they believed it all.
What do you think? we don't sense that there's more to it?
There are more things in your life. -That's enough, Aina.
What do you think? (E) Why? Why?
Do I say what I think? -Aina, please.
Before you met mom, what was your life like?
Hey, shut up already. Shut up already! (E) No, no, you tell me.
No! (E) What do you want to know? (E) What do you want to know?
No! No! Why?
Why?
(CRIES)
(E) All the shit about Enric Marco.
"We didn't go."
I say, hey, why did you believe me so much?
You would have some interest you would have in believing me so much.
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
Nothing was known. I have started to make my way.
I opened slowly and I started to give voice
to all these deportees. I can't deny that.
You just said: "Yes, now here comes Enric Marco",
and I'd walk in, "And he's been in a concentration camp."
They would all turn and look at you.
(E) (SPEAKS CATALAN)
They say, "Why were you doing it?"
Y what they can't get their heads around
is that I did it purely to do it, not to make money.
I have never earned a penny from it. Never.
Who has not lied at some time?
It's just that I find people people are so funny to me.
"Marco has lied, Marco has lied."
Take a look inside, look inside yourselves a little.
If they want me to continue giving talks,
I don't know if they will want to, but if they want to,
I am delighted. I'll tell you something else,
the talks would not vary much.
And it seems that people liked to listen to them.
Thank you very much, Enric Marco.
Thank you.
(E) "Who has lied more about Enric Marco?
Enric Marco or the others?
Every year a party,
a flower, a souvenir,
five minutes of speech and if there is room, a new plaque.
And until next year.
Wouldn't asking for forgiveness make everyone would everyone be more satisfied?
Except me, of course."
My God, this guy is crazy.
"What the fuck do I have to apologize for? I have to apologize for?
Of the consequences?
I do regret that.
But apologize for what?
What crime have I committed?
What crime did I commit?
I don't know.
If that is what what is expected of me,
be forgiven and...
Who knows?"
Shame on you. Shame on you.
"Let him who can judge me judge me."
What little shame.
(E) I have been deceived.
I have been deceived, I have been deceived.
I should have said no.
They have misrepresented everything.
That's not me.
I would say it's pretty much you, mind you.
(E) What?
Don't you think it's about time to stop, Enric?
That's four years now.
We have already forgiven you.
What more do you want?
(E) I can't leave it like this.
I am like that, What do you want me to tell you?
I can't give up the fight. What struggle?
First came the anarchists,
then the union, then the deportees.
What is your struggle now, Enric?
"He is a man who spends his life
locked in a workshop here in Hospitalet.
And at the age of 50, when the the Transition in Spain,
and the whole world reinvents itself, so does he.
And he becomes a war hero,
into a hero of the anti-Nazi resistance,
into a hero of Franco's resistance.
(LAUGHS) He had done absolutely none of that.
And he lives a hero's life.
Change your wife, change jobs,
changes the place where he lives, changes his name. where he lives, he changes his name.
He wants to be loved. Just like everyone else.
Only he does it in a beastly fashion.
But as far as I was going, I knew there was something there
I cared a lot about.
That all books have a superficial theme have a superficial theme
and a deep theme. Marco is the shallow subject."
(E) What are you saying? Shut up.
"In the end, he doesn't talk about about Marco, he talks about other things.
Marco is the instrument that I use to talk about things
that concern us all." (E) Wretch. Faker.
How you love the camera.
Oh, how the camera turns them on.
The eagerness of protagonism that you have.
"We are all in some way phonies."
(E) (DIAL THE PHONE)
Aina.
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(LAUGHING)
(SPEAK IN CATALAN)
(Doorbell)
(E) Here. A sausage.
I'll buy you a cup of coffee.
Thank you.
I was wrong about you.
Now, with time, I have come to realize
who has not tried to take advantage to get the media spotlight.
(B) What do you want, Enric?
(E) Propose to write a book.
(B) Me? A book of what?
(E) I have been compiling documentation
to tell the truth about my life.
I have here the supporting document...
Truly I was a prisoner in the Kiel prison.
I have the birth certificate
that proves that I was born in a madhouse.
(B) How can I write a book about you? a book about you?
(E) Why do you say so? Because of Cercas' book?
I want to say, a book written with rigor.
You wrote a solo book by Francesc Boix.
(B) But Francesc Boix is a deportee, a real one.
He was in a concentration camp in a concentration camp,
photographed Mauthausen, testified at Nuremberg...
(E) I don't want to compare myself,
but my life perhaps it also deserves to be told.
It cannot be that of Enric Marco is only said that he was an impostor.
No.
(B) Let's see, Enric.
I am a historian.
I am specialized in deportation.
My job is to seek the truth and tell it.
I have no use for lies.
(E) But through my lie can tell the truth.
I don't know if you understand.
You can talk about of the deportees through me.
(E) I don't understand what you want, Enric.
(E) I have nothing else.
(B) Do you have nothing else?
But let's see, don't you have anything else for what?
To be published in the newspapers again,
to be rehabilitated?
What for?
(E) No.
(B) I am very sorry, Enric.
Really.
(E) There are almost no deportees left.
Think about it.
I will insist.
No, no, no. Take this with you.
(B) Thank you.