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[tape whirring]
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[heavy breathing]
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{\an8}[heavy breathing continues]
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[demonic growl]
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[boy growling]
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[demonic growl]
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[boy snarling] No! No!
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[woman] I'm your mother.
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[boy] You're a douchebag. [laughs]
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- [woman speaking indistinctly]
- [boy yelling] Don't do that!
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- [woman speaking indistinctly]
- [boy laughs evilly]
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[ominous music playing]
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[man 1] What we have here is
a confrontation between good and evil,
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and the place
that evil picked was Connecticut.
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[music ends]
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My name is David Glatzel.
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When I was 11,
I was possessed by the devil.
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A bizarre murder trial gets underway
tomorrow in Danbury, Connecticut.
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The crux of this case is a claim
of demonic possession.
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[screaming]
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That's what an attorney for
a Connecticut teenager will try to prove.
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{\an8}[man 2] I said, "Why am I here?"
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{\an8}And he said,
"Well, you just killed your friend."
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[ominous music playing]
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[newscaster 1] A man who was arrested
last month in Connecticut for murder
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says that he will plead innocent
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because he was possessed by the devil
at the time he committed the crime.
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Are you kidding?
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There was drinking. There was a stabbing.
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This is an open-shut case.
This is ridiculous.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[newscaster 2] The tale really begins
in the house at the end of this driveway,
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where the Brookfield couple
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whose 11-year-old son
began acting strangely.
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- [possessed David growling]
- [woman] Get up!
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[David] I don't like to be remembered
as the 11-year-old boy that was possessed...
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[possessed David] You will die!
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...but I gotta deal with it every day.
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[young man] You can't hurt God's child.
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[possessed David]
Jesus is gonna die in hell.
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I have never spoken to anybody about this.
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[dramatic music plays]
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It's a secret, a dark secret.
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[people praying]
Our Father, who art in heaven...
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Give us this day our daily bread...
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- [possessed David breathing]
- [people continue praying]
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[possessed David] You're gonna die!
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[people] Amen.
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[projector whirring]
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[indistinct chatter]
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[laughing]
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[David] I would love to tell you my story
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about the possession and the murder
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and Arne Johnson.
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I'd like to make sure
my family is portrayed
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with the accuracy that it should be.
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I know some people
have fabricated some stories,
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and I'm not happy with that,
so I'd like to set the record straight.
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[kids laughing]
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[unsettling music playing]
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[music intensifies]
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[music fades]
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[gentle music playing]
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[David] When I was 11 years old,
I was quiet.
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Life was good.
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Playing with my brothers,
best time of my life.
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[man] I was the middle child of the boys.
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{\an8}Typical middle-child syndrome.
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I have an older brother, Carl.
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He... [sighs]
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...was not the easiest brother
to go along with.
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He was kind of like an idiot at times.
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Made life difficult.
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{\an8}Alan, back in the day, was just different.
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David and I would help my father
and work in the garage and stuff.
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And Alan really didn't want to get dirty,
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so he stayed
with my mother most of the time.
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You know, he could bake a good cake.
I can tell you that much.
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But, uh, he's just
a little different than us.
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[speaking indistinctly]
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[David] Back then, I wouldn't call us
an all-American family,
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but I would say we were
as normal as we can be.
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It all started when my sister, Debbie,
found a house in Newtown.
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She was going to move in
with her boyfriend, Arne.
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{\an8}Debbie and I were very excited
to move in together.
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{\an8}We had plans
on being married in the spring.
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We were working towards that.
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We couldn't wait. We couldn't wait.
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[high-pitched ring]
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[pensive music playing]
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July 2nd, Debbie found
a really nice house in Newtown to rent.
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[David] I was a little sad
to see them move out.
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You're 11 years old, it's your sister.
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Me and my older brothers, Alan and Carl,
ended up going there to help them move in.
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[turn signal ticking]
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[pensive music continues]
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[car door unlocks]
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It was a weird house.
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- [bird chirping]
- [car door closes]
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There was just something
really off about it.
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[pensive music continues]
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[Debbie] I assigned
each of my brothers a chore.
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{\an8}I sent David into the master bedroom,
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{\an8}and handed him a broom
and asked him if he could sweep up for me.
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I left him in there alone.
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And then I started doing what I had to do,
scouring and cleaning.
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[eerie music playing]
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But after a while, David came running out.
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He looked upset, and I didn't know why.
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[breathing heavily]
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[eerie music continues]
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[Alan] David said, "Mom, I wanna go home."
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She's like, "I can't leave.
We'll get this done."
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"As soon as we can, we'll go home."
He's like, "I wanna go home now."
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[breathing heavily]
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I just wanted to get out of the house,
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off the property,
away from it as far as I could.
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And I... I didn't tell anybody
the reason why.
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[car engine starts]
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[foreboding music playing]
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[breathing heavily]
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[music continues]
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[music intensifies]
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We got back home,
had dinner, everything was fine.
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My mom was an excellent cook.
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She was Hungarian and Italian,
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so she knew how to cook.
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But David was having a bad day.
Something was bothering him.
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And I said, "What's wrong with you?"
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[breathing heavily]
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[David] I remember sitting at the table.
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Started explaining
what had happened that morning.
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[ominous music plays]
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{\an8}[birds chirping]
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I was in the bedroom on my own.
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[door creaking open]
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But I could feel something.
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[eerie music playing]
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[wood creaking]
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- [creaking stops]
- [David breathing heavily]
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[eerie whoosh]
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[wood creaking]
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[gasps]
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[eerie whoosh]
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- [dramatic sting plays]
- [gasps]
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And then I was pushed backwards
onto the bed.
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[ominous music playing]
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[breathing heavily]
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[David] I seen this image.
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It looked like the devil
from a Halloween costume.
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His eyes were black,
solid black, just like a chunk of coal,
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and it scared me.
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[ominous music plays]
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David said, "Then this entity spoke."
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[breathing heavily]
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[Debbie] I said to David,
"What is this figure telling you?"
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"He keeps telling me beware."
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I said, "Beware of what?"
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And he kept telling me,
"He wants my soul."
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[ominous music continues]
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And he said, "He's gonna come for me.
That's what he keeps telling me."
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"I... You gotta help me."
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I said, "Dave, did you touch anything
in the medicine cabinet?"
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He goes, "No, this is for real."
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We didn't believe him at first.
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[Alan] My mom's reaction was,
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"It was late at night.
Maybe he was dreaming."
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[Arne] Judy said, "Okay, enough of this."
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"It's time to go to bed, get some rest,
and we'll revisit this in the morning."
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[crickets chirping]
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[clock ticking]
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[David] Later that night,
I got sort of a weird feeling.
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[inhales deeply]
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I just had this image.
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[foreboding music playing]
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There was something coming.
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[ominous music plays]
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I started to get scared
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'cause I could see it coming closer
towards the house.
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[foreboding music playing]
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[floorboard creaks]
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[breathing heavily]
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[foreboding music continues]
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You can feel something watching you.
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[young David breathing heavily]
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[ominous music plays]
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I thought I saw a figure.
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[breathing heavily]
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[toy firetruck whirring and wailing]
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[David] When I look again...
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there's nothing there.
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[foreboding music playing]
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I stayed up in the dark
with my eyes open most of the night.
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[music continues]
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[owl hooting in distance]
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[rustling]
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[Arne] Judy was worried about David,
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so she called Father Dennis up
to let him know what was happening.
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She asked him
if he could come bless the house.
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[Judy] Bless you too, Father.
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My mom was religious.
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[pensive music playing]
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She made us go through Communion
and Confirmation as Catholics.
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We did believe in God and the devil.
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When Father Dennis had come to the house,
he brought some holy oil, some holy water,
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and some incense...
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[Father Dennis] In the name of the Father...
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[David]...that he used to bless
the entire house,
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every room, upstairs and downstairs.
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[Father Dennis continues blessing]
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We thought it was over and done with.
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[Father Dennis]
I pray against any evil that...
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But this was just the beginning.
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[unsettling music playing]
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[clock ticking]
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[screaming]
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[Debbie gasps] Oh my God!
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[Alan] It was three o'clock
in the morning.
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All of a sudden, David was screaming
at the top of his lungs,
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"He's coming for me. He's coming for me.
He's gonna punish me."
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[both panting]
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[faint rumbling]
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The house rumbled...
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[loud rumbling]
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...like someone had drove a truck into it.
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[rumbling continues]
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It sounded like a UFO
was landing on top of the house.
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[rumbling continues]
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[wood creaking]
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Whatever it was,
it wanted you to know it was there.
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- [rumbling continues]
- [objects tumbling]
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Lights began to flash on and off.
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- [electricity crackling]
- [glass shattering]
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You'd hear the glass falling, breaking.
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[objects falling, shattering]
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David was frantic, and he was screaming,
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"He's here. He's here.
He's over the house."
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David's like,
"Don't open the door. It's evil."
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[rumbling intensifies]
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The banging went on
for 30, maybe 40 seconds...
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[loud banging]
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[rumbling stops]
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...and then everything went quiet.
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[all panting]
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- [glass shatters]
- [Debbie] Oh my God.
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[breathing heavily]
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I was petrified.
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Okay, we have a ghost problem,
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um, and we didn't know what to do with it.
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[pensive music playing]
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We knew we had to find some help.
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[crows cawing]
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[Alan] At that time,
our next-door neighbor,
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she was into tarot card reading
and stuff like that.
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And she said,
"You know, my mother-in-law said
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she had gone, a couple of years ago,
to see a psychic investigator."
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"Maybe they can help."
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Debbie is like,
"I'll take help from anyone."
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We weren't gonna let no entity,
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no... no ghost or anybody
run us out of that house.
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That was our house,
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and we were gonna make sure
that whatever was there,
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we were gonna get it out
one way or the other.
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Our special guests tonight,
who in their 32 years as ghost hunters,
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have investigated over 3,000 cases
of haunted houses and demonic possession
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and have been involved
in numerous exorcisms around the world.
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Listen closely and make up
your own mind as we present to you,
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ladies and gentlemen,
the ghost hunters Ed and Lorraine Warren.
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- [gentle music playing]
- [audience applauding]
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[inaudible]
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[man] I was so proud of my grandparents
when I was growing up.
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[host speaking indistinctly]
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[man] I would see them
in the newspaper or on television,
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and it was just so cool.
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But on the other hand,
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{\an8}I was also the weird kid
because I had these creepy grandparents.
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[Ed] The truth of the matter is,
I did not wake up one day and say,
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"I want to be a demonologist."
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I was born a demonologist.
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As a boy, I would ask the nuns
and the priest, uh,
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{\an8}"What is this about ghosts,
the supernatural? Is it for real?"
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{\an8}"Are there really devils?"
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{\an8}And, of course, you know, Catholicism
teaches us that these things are real.
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My grandmother
had a different, uh, experience.
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- I hear laughter and I don't...
- [Ed] Laughter?
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- I don't quite understand. I can hear it...
- Is it male or a female laughter?
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I mean, I can't understand
why all of you don't hear it.
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I hear it so... It... It's so loud in here.
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He said, "Well, if you wanna hunt tigers,
you got to go to where tigers are."
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- Go to the light, Charissa.
- [shrieking]
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I'm here to help you.
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But they didn't reach any fame until...
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A young man murdered, in cold blood,
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his father, mother,
four brothers and sisters,
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because voices told him to do it.
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With that grueling beginning comes
a bestseller and a motion picture,
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The Amityville Horror.
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[blood-curdling scream]
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Lorraine and I have been in hundreds
and hundreds of haunted houses,
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and we've interviewed
numerous people all over the world.
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And on a scale of one to ten,
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I would have to say
that Amityville was a ten.
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The Amityville Horror
was the one that went international.
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That's the one
where my grandparents became world-famous.
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{\an8}- And, well, it's number two.
- [audience applauding]
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It's funny how something so horrifying
can end up becoming a blessing.
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Thank you, Mr. Warren.
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And it... it really did help
a lot of families afterward.
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We are receiving a lot of letters
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from people who are... are writing in
about problems.
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What's the address?
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Post office box... Send it to the Warrens,
Ed and Lorraine Warren,
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Post Office Box 41,
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Monroe, Connecticut 06468.
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[dial tone]
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[dialing]
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[Alan] Debbie called up the Warrens.
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Ed answered.
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Debbie said who she was
and, "Can you help us?"
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Ed said, "Has David been seen
by a doctor at this point?"
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We said, "No."
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So Ed's like,
"Do you mind if I bring a doctor with me?"
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[suspenseful music playing]
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[barking]
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[Alan] They showed up in a Chevy Chevette.
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[suspenseful music continues]
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Ed Warren was a really nice man.
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He was reassuring, confident.
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He definitely made us feel safer.
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Lorraine was so gentle
and precise in her words.
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Judy said, "Oh my God,
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I'm so glad you're here
and so glad to meet you."
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[young David] Ah...
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[Alan] The doctor took David aside,
took his blood pressure, stuff like that.
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He was tested psychologically,
proven to be completely normal.
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Dr. Tony never said that I was
off my rocker or anything like that.
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He said I was a... a normal kid.
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[Alan] Ed and Lorraine were
very cautious talking to us.
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They wanted us to answer some questions,
find out what's going on.
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[Ed] Okay.
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[tape clatters]
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[young David coughs]
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[Ed on tape]
David, give me your full name.
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- [David] David Michael Glatzel.
- [Ed] Okay, how old are you, David?
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- [young David] Twelve.
- [Ed] Twelve years old.
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What do you think
about all these things, David?
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- You'd like it to end, right?
- [young David] Hmm?
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- You'd like it to end?
- Mm-hmm.
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- You don't want it to go on, do you?
- No.
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[Ed] No. Okay.
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There was one violent scene here
that Lorraine told me about.
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- [Judy] It was more than one.
- [Ed] More than one?
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[Judy] Oh my God, it was all night!
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[Ed] Okay, so in other words,
it was a very hectic night.
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[Judy] Oh yeah, but see,
we can't tolerate no more, really.
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We're not lying to you 'cause, you know,
we need the help we can get.
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Believe me,
we wanna get rid of this thing.
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My mom was so hopeful
that this would be a cure-all.
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[pensive music playing]
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She wanted her family back,
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and she wanted to go back
to the life we had before this.
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[Ed] These people are telling us
these horrible stories,
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but we have to, ourselves,
experience this before we accept it.
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- [host] All right.
- We have to see it. We have to feel it.
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We have to know it's there before we say,
"Yes, this home is haunted."
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[Judy] He told David
he wants his soul today.
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[Ed] What'd he tell you about your soul?
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Says he just wants my soul. That was it.
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[Ed] Is he here now?
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[ominous music playing]
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Ed's like, "Let's see it show itself."
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"It's got so much power,
it needs to prove that it's here."
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[ominous music continues]
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I have to provoke what is there
through religious provocation.
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Now being a Christian,
I would use the name of Jesus Christ.
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I would use holy water.
I would use the crucifix.
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Now, this may seem dramatic,
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but this is the method that the exorcist
and the demonologist uses.
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I provoke until I can witness
physical manifestations occurring.
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[Alan] Ed said, "If you have the power,
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I need you to knock
on the table three times."
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[breathing nervously]
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[breathing heavily]
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[Arne] All of a sudden...
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- [loud banging and rumbling]
- Bang! Bang! Bang!
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Sounded like someone took a sledgehammer,
trying to break through the kitchen floor.
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- [loud rumbling]
- [young David gasps]
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The entire kitchen started to shake.
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[breathing heavily]
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The lights were flickering.
Everybody felt it.
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[rumbling stops]
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[young David breathing heavily]
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[inhales deeply]
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[Arne] Ed looked at David and he said,
"Does this frighten you?"
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David goes, "I'm afraid
because he wants to hurt me."
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"Because I'm talking to you
and you're here,
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we're all gonna be punished for this."
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[unsettling music playing]
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At that point,
Lorraine was walking around.
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Going into a home,
I'm there to discern, through vibrations,
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walking throughout
every room of the house.
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Because there has to be
a law of attraction.
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00:21:42,718 --> 00:21:44,803
The spirit has to be
attracted to one member
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of that particular household.
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00:21:49,683 --> 00:21:52,019
[Alan] She leaned over to him
and whispered,
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"There's a large dark mass
standing next to that little boy."
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"It's evil."
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[chair creaking faintly]
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That felt strange to us.
We couldn't see nothing.
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[young David breathing heavily]
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Ed and Lorraine spoke to my parents.
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"This is not a ghost.
This is a demonic entity."
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00:22:13,248 --> 00:22:14,458
[dramatic sting plays]
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00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:19,546
[music intensifies]
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00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:21,673
[ominous music playing]
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[breathing heavily]
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[David] It really scared me.
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The whole family was scared
'cause we had no idea what was going on.
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[inhales deeply]
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00:22:33,727 --> 00:22:39,024
You know, my grandfather had this idea
that hauntings progressed in five steps.
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[indistinct chatter]
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{\an8}It starts with permission.
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{\an8}[chatter continues]
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{\an8}Somebody does something
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{\an8}that allows the paranormal
to take a foothold.
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[unsettling music playing]
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00:22:54,915 --> 00:22:57,876
Maybe it's an Ouija board
or a séance or whatever.
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Then you have infestation.
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00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:05,926
That's where the spirits are in the home,
but external to you completely.
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00:23:06,009 --> 00:23:09,471
Just a ghost
or, you know, a loved one comes to visit
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and wants to let you know they're there.
433
00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:13,350
That's... That's normal.
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00:23:14,101 --> 00:23:15,977
Then you have oppression.
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00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:22,067
That's when an entity
is starting to take over your free will.
436
00:23:22,150 --> 00:23:25,195
But you're exhibiting
much darker impulses,
437
00:23:25,278 --> 00:23:27,072
much more negative behaviors.
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In incredibly rare circumstances,
it moves on to complete possession.
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00:23:34,121 --> 00:23:37,916
That's where you're no longer there.
You're not in control.
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Your body has been taken over completely
by something else.
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00:23:40,961 --> 00:23:43,004
[screaming]
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00:23:43,088 --> 00:23:44,381
[thudding]
443
00:23:44,464 --> 00:23:46,508
[yelping]
444
00:23:46,591 --> 00:23:48,593
[eerie music playing]
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00:23:49,594 --> 00:23:52,931
[Alan] Ed felt strong enough
from that first meeting
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that David was already
in oppression stage.
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00:23:57,060 --> 00:23:58,103
[Arne] Ed explained to us
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that the demon would be causing David
to act totally different.
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00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:07,279
Controlling his thoughts,
sending messages through him.
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00:24:07,863 --> 00:24:10,115
He would become more volatile.
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00:24:10,198 --> 00:24:12,200
[pensive music playing]
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00:24:15,954 --> 00:24:19,291
[Alan] Ed Warren had seen this
many times before.
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00:24:19,374 --> 00:24:21,710
He said,
"You're gonna have to contact the church."
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My mom said, "We did that. We tried."
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00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,883
And Ed spoke up and said,
"No, I will help you do that."
456
00:24:29,217 --> 00:24:32,137
"You guys need to start documenting this."
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00:24:32,220 --> 00:24:35,932
And collect as much evidence as they can,
to present it to the archbishop.
458
00:24:36,433 --> 00:24:39,728
And the archbishop of Bridgeport
would make the decision
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00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:42,105
as far as what we were dealing with.
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00:24:43,356 --> 00:24:45,775
[Arne] I thought, "This stuff isn't real.
It doesn't happen."
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00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:49,488
"It's only... in cartoons and movies."
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00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:55,619
Ed and Lorraine warned us
how serious this really is.
463
00:24:56,703 --> 00:24:58,246
"Don't take it lightly."
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"Protect yourself,
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00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,294
because you never know
when it can happen."
466
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,256
[gentle music playing]
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00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:13,595
[Alan] My mom took
our audio tape cassette recorder.
468
00:25:15,555 --> 00:25:19,518
My sister bought a Polaroid camera,
you know, that takes instant photos.
469
00:25:21,311 --> 00:25:24,731
From that moment forward,
we started keeping records of everything.
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00:25:24,814 --> 00:25:27,526
[Polaroid camera clicking, whirring]
471
00:25:28,276 --> 00:25:30,445
We were on summer vacation from school.
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00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,572
[host on TV]
Good evening, ladies and gentlemen...
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[Alan] No one was sleeping.
474
00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:36,576
[host] ...two candidates
for the Republican nomination
475
00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:38,870
for the presidency of the United States.
476
00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:43,542
Former Governor Ronald Reagan
of California. Former ambassador...
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00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:46,962
[Alan] We were taking turns
keeping an eye on David.
478
00:25:47,504 --> 00:25:49,297
[Ronald Reagan] Whether we like it or not,
479
00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:52,884
it is our responsibility
to preserve world peace
480
00:25:52,968 --> 00:25:54,886
because no one else can do it.
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00:25:55,845 --> 00:25:57,490
[in distorted voice] We cannot continue...
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[exhales]
483
00:25:59,099 --> 00:26:00,219
[distorted speech continues]
484
00:26:00,267 --> 00:26:03,395
But then David
started acting really weird.
485
00:26:04,396 --> 00:26:06,398
[distorted speech continues]
486
00:26:07,983 --> 00:26:08,983
[Judy] David!
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00:26:09,442 --> 00:26:10,443
Oh my God.
488
00:26:11,278 --> 00:26:13,280
[menacing music playing]
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00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:16,700
[possessed David breathing heavily]
490
00:26:19,202 --> 00:26:21,162
[demonic growl]
491
00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:24,457
You will die! You!
492
00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:26,251
[Judy] Who are you and what are you?
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00:26:26,751 --> 00:26:29,032
- [possessed David] None of your business.
- [Judy] David.
494
00:26:29,087 --> 00:26:30,547
[camera clicking, whirring]
495
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:32,632
[demonic growl]
496
00:26:33,341 --> 00:26:35,677
[Judy] Mommy's here. Mommy's here.
Come on, get up.
497
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,972
Come on, let's go. Get out of it.
Get out of my son. Get out of my son.
498
00:26:39,055 --> 00:26:41,474
[possessed David snarling] No! No!
499
00:26:41,558 --> 00:26:42,767
[Judy] I'm your mother.
500
00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:45,186
[possessed David]
You're a douchebag. [laughs]
501
00:26:45,270 --> 00:26:47,188
[camera clicking, whirring]
502
00:26:47,272 --> 00:26:49,107
You will die!
503
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:50,984
[growling]
504
00:26:51,067 --> 00:26:52,193
[Judy speaking indistinctly]
505
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:54,696
[possessed David continues growling]
506
00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:57,240
Don't do that! [laughs evilly]
507
00:26:58,575 --> 00:27:01,911
[Judy] David, just get up!
My God! Get up...
508
00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:03,155
[Debbie] Call the priest, Ma.
509
00:27:03,204 --> 00:27:05,957
- Have him come to the house right now.
- [Judy] Get out of my son!
510
00:27:06,041 --> 00:27:08,019
- [possessed David] No!
- [young Arne] Leave this boy alone.
511
00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:08,877
[Debbie] Here. Here.
512
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,800
[young Arne] I'm trying.
I got your arms again.
513
00:27:10,879 --> 00:27:14,049
- [possessed David] You fucking cocksucker.
- [young Arne] Start saying prayers.
514
00:27:14,132 --> 00:27:16,843
[all] Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
515
00:27:16,926 --> 00:27:17,926
Thy kingdom come,
516
00:27:17,969 --> 00:27:20,597
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
517
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,892
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
518
00:27:23,975 --> 00:27:26,186
as we forgive those
who trespass against us...
519
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:28,271
[possessed David screaming]
520
00:27:30,982 --> 00:27:32,192
[Alan] It was terrifying...
521
00:27:32,275 --> 00:27:33,395
[young Arne] Leave this boy.
522
00:27:33,443 --> 00:27:35,945
...because all of a sudden,
he'll start screaming and fighting,
523
00:27:36,029 --> 00:27:37,364
and there's no one there.
524
00:27:37,447 --> 00:27:39,282
[possessed David yelps, coughs]
525
00:27:39,366 --> 00:27:42,035
[Alan] At one point,
we were able to capture on film
526
00:27:42,118 --> 00:27:44,537
his hands in midair holding something,
527
00:27:45,246 --> 00:27:49,084
choking him, and he was squeezing
with all his might to get these hands
528
00:27:49,167 --> 00:27:51,211
from around his throat off of his throat.
529
00:27:51,294 --> 00:27:52,962
[possessed David screaming]
530
00:27:53,046 --> 00:27:55,256
[young Arne]
Leave this boy. Leave this boy.
531
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:58,051
We had the chills up and down our spine.
532
00:27:58,134 --> 00:27:59,344
[demonic growl]
533
00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:01,096
[Arne] It was very frightening,
534
00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:03,723
and we didn't really know
how to handle it.
535
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:05,684
[possessed David laughs]
536
00:28:05,767 --> 00:28:08,186
[camera clicking, whirring]
537
00:28:08,937 --> 00:28:11,356
[possessed David screams, chokes]
538
00:28:11,439 --> 00:28:13,525
[David] I remember being choked,
539
00:28:13,608 --> 00:28:16,027
but I don't remember anything else
when I blacked out
540
00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:19,698
or if I even blacked out or what happened.
541
00:28:19,781 --> 00:28:21,574
Nobody could ever answer that.
542
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,913
It was mentally draining for everyone,
543
00:28:27,914 --> 00:28:30,542
but it just kept getting
progressively worse.
544
00:28:31,251 --> 00:28:33,545
[possessed David snarling]
545
00:28:34,254 --> 00:28:36,047
He was physically violent with everyone.
546
00:28:36,131 --> 00:28:37,131
[possessed David laughs]
547
00:28:37,173 --> 00:28:39,426
[Alan] He's tried choking
my mother, my sister.
548
00:28:39,509 --> 00:28:41,886
It would last for a few minutes
or a few hours.
549
00:28:41,970 --> 00:28:43,179
[possessed David shrieking]
550
00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:45,598
[Alan] We would take turns
sleeping in shifts.
551
00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:47,809
[possessed David mumbling]
552
00:28:47,892 --> 00:28:49,769
[Alan] We didn't want to be isolated.
553
00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:54,816
We know that if we were alone,
our chances of an attack were exponential.
554
00:28:54,899 --> 00:28:56,901
[possessed David laughing evilly]
555
00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:00,780
[demonic growl]
556
00:29:01,364 --> 00:29:03,658
The whole family
was getting physically attacked.
557
00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:04,951
[Judy] He restores my soul.
558
00:29:05,034 --> 00:29:09,164
He leads me in paths of righteousness
for His name's sake.
559
00:29:09,247 --> 00:29:11,499
We were saying prayers constantly.
560
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:16,212
We figured if we said the prayers
louder and louder, it would go away.
561
00:29:16,296 --> 00:29:17,797
[somber music playing]
562
00:29:19,299 --> 00:29:21,419
[Alan] The most difficult part
for my mom was the fact
563
00:29:21,468 --> 00:29:24,846
that my dad
wasn't standing behind her on this.
564
00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:28,432
She felt alone.
565
00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:31,686
My father, at this point,
566
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:34,355
thought David was
just having a mental health issue,
567
00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:36,357
thought we were feeding into it.
568
00:29:39,068 --> 00:29:42,071
So he kind of just locked himself away.
569
00:29:42,155 --> 00:29:46,409
He was working two jobs
and come home and sleep.
570
00:29:47,368 --> 00:29:49,996
Things changed.
We went from having a normal family dinner
571
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:52,624
to him working constantly, not being home.
572
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,212
It took my dad a while
before he realized what was going on.
573
00:29:57,712 --> 00:30:02,258
And by then, you know, it was too late.
574
00:30:02,926 --> 00:30:05,011
[possessed David grunting, laughing]
575
00:30:05,094 --> 00:30:06,304
[pensive music playing]
576
00:30:06,387 --> 00:30:11,017
My mom called up the Warrens
and told them what was going on.
577
00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:12,852
[Judy] I'm your mother.
578
00:30:12,936 --> 00:30:15,230
[possessed David]
You're a douchebag. [laughs]
579
00:30:15,313 --> 00:30:17,873
- [Judy speaking indistinctly]
- [possessed David] Don't do that!
580
00:30:17,941 --> 00:30:20,235
[laughs evilly]
581
00:30:20,318 --> 00:30:23,158
- [Judy] He didn't know who was doing it.
- [Ed] Does he blink his eyes?
582
00:30:23,238 --> 00:30:27,450
[Judy] No, nothing.
They absolutely just stay perfectly still.
583
00:30:27,534 --> 00:30:30,203
[Ed] If he was conscious,
his eyes would blink, right?
584
00:30:30,286 --> 00:30:33,248
[Judy] You mean he was unconscious
when he did this, when this happened?
585
00:30:33,748 --> 00:30:36,084
Well, I would think so, yeah. Okay.
586
00:30:36,584 --> 00:30:39,546
Ed and Lorraine told us
that David was under possession.
587
00:30:39,629 --> 00:30:41,631
[pensive music playing]
588
00:30:44,384 --> 00:30:45,927
[Chris] After possession,
589
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:50,765
{\an8}the ultimate goal is the destruction
of the family and, finally, death.
590
00:30:51,391 --> 00:30:57,689
You're being killed,
or... where somebody else is murdered,
591
00:30:58,189 --> 00:30:59,440
it does happen.
592
00:30:59,983 --> 00:31:01,823
[Judy] He went behind Alan,
he pulled this out,
593
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,611
and he goes, "I hate everybody."
594
00:31:04,112 --> 00:31:07,282
"And if anybody goes near me,
I'll kill you. Anybody."
595
00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:10,326
My mom panicked right then and there.
596
00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:13,705
She thought something was gonna happen
where her son would kill himself
597
00:31:15,290 --> 00:31:16,499
or commit murder.
598
00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:18,251
[pensive music playing]
599
00:31:18,334 --> 00:31:20,962
She was like, "We need to stop this now."
600
00:31:22,672 --> 00:31:25,133
Ed Warren said, "You're going to
definitely need an exorcism."
601
00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:27,218
[pensive music continues]
602
00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:31,723
That was probably
the most frightening thing.
603
00:31:33,683 --> 00:31:36,978
[Ed on tape] We are like
a supernatural police department.
604
00:31:37,478 --> 00:31:40,732
We have to bring the culprits
to the church.
605
00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:43,526
We have to bring the culprits
to the exorcist.
606
00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:45,778
This is why I say,
607
00:31:46,279 --> 00:31:50,491
when the demonic
and evil spirits fight dirty,
608
00:31:51,117 --> 00:31:53,369
you have to do the very same thing.
609
00:31:53,453 --> 00:31:54,453
[cawing]
610
00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:56,039
[church bell tolling]
611
00:31:57,916 --> 00:32:01,044
[Alan] The church don't give out
exorcisms like candy.
612
00:32:01,836 --> 00:32:04,923
I did not realize the amount
of paperwork you have to go through
613
00:32:05,006 --> 00:32:06,006
to get an exorcism.
614
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:07,759
- [church bell tolling]
- [dog barking]
615
00:32:07,842 --> 00:32:08,927
It is a big deal.
616
00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:11,012
[suspenseful music playing]
617
00:32:13,848 --> 00:32:16,935
[man] The request process for an exorcism
in the Roman Catholic Church
618
00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:19,062
{\an8}is not necessarily easy,
619
00:32:19,145 --> 00:32:21,981
{\an8}especially back when Ed and Lorraine
were in their prime.
620
00:32:22,065 --> 00:32:25,443
In my experience, there's a lot of clergy
that do not want to deal with this stuff.
621
00:32:25,526 --> 00:32:27,570
They don't want
to deal with the infernal forces...
622
00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:29,280
[woman yelping]
623
00:32:29,364 --> 00:32:31,741
...and they're afraid
to step foot in those homes.
624
00:32:31,824 --> 00:32:35,370
So I can see where people
turn to people like the Warrens
625
00:32:35,453 --> 00:32:38,122
because their own clergy
have rejected them.
626
00:32:38,206 --> 00:32:40,166
But it's a duty as a clergyman.
627
00:32:40,249 --> 00:32:43,503
You're called to do this,
and you're called to help those people.
628
00:32:43,586 --> 00:32:45,588
[pensive music playing]
629
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:49,968
Growing up in the Roman Catholic Church,
630
00:32:50,510 --> 00:32:51,886
angels, devils,
631
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:55,139
these things are, uh, entrenched
in the belief system.
632
00:32:55,223 --> 00:32:59,352
But I always sort of questioned
the reality of these spiritual forces.
633
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:01,354
So I was very open
634
00:33:01,437 --> 00:33:04,524
and looking for the evidence
to see if this truly existed or not.
635
00:33:04,607 --> 00:33:05,733
[music continues]
636
00:33:07,318 --> 00:33:09,696
Now, people can poo-poo
the whole idea of ghosts
637
00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:12,740
and haunted houses
and devils all they want,
638
00:33:13,324 --> 00:33:15,284
but the devil does exist.
639
00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:16,953
Many devils exist,
640
00:33:17,036 --> 00:33:20,373
and a skeptical public
is the best protection that the devil has.
641
00:33:20,873 --> 00:33:23,126
- [priest] In the name of Jesus...
- [woman screaming]
642
00:33:23,793 --> 00:33:24,793
...get out!
643
00:33:25,753 --> 00:33:27,797
[Father Maximos] Working with the Warrens
644
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,466
was certainly intriguing,
somewhat exciting.
645
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:34,053
I saw how real this is
and how dangerous it could be.
646
00:33:34,137 --> 00:33:36,139
[birds chirping]
647
00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:40,018
[dramatic music playing]
648
00:33:42,812 --> 00:33:45,690
[Alan] The church realized
by all the evidence we had gathered
649
00:33:45,773 --> 00:33:48,401
that, yeah, this is a real deal,
and they need help.
650
00:33:48,484 --> 00:33:50,486
[engine revving]
651
00:33:54,782 --> 00:33:57,660
A cardinal from the Catholic Church
showed up.
652
00:33:57,744 --> 00:34:01,456
They dress completely in red,
and he also drove a red Porsche.
653
00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:05,585
Oh, it's good to be in the church.
654
00:34:07,587 --> 00:34:09,005
He met with the family.
655
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:13,634
They decided we have something here
that needs to be fixed.
656
00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:16,888
[music fades]
657
00:34:19,265 --> 00:34:24,771
The Catholic Church gave us authorization
to perform a minor exorcism.
658
00:34:24,854 --> 00:34:26,856
[pensive music playing]
659
00:34:28,983 --> 00:34:32,487
They invited my family
to St. Joseph's Church in Brookfield.
660
00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:38,201
I didn't think anything bad could happen,
'cause I'm in the house of God.
661
00:34:38,284 --> 00:34:39,911
[speaking indistinctly]
662
00:34:39,994 --> 00:34:43,748
The priest, Father Virgulak, warned us.
He said, "These exorcisms,
663
00:34:43,831 --> 00:34:47,710
they could be so intense
that death can happen."
664
00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:51,214
And that was very frightening.
665
00:34:53,174 --> 00:34:54,675
But we didn't have a choice.
666
00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:55,959
[Father Virgulak] Let us pray.
667
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:59,013
In the name of the Father,
and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
668
00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:01,766
It starts out similar to a... a mass.
669
00:35:01,849 --> 00:35:05,228
[all] Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name...
670
00:35:05,311 --> 00:35:07,814
[David] I just remember being there,
in the church,
671
00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:11,609
and that they said the prayers.
That's all I remember.
672
00:35:11,692 --> 00:35:16,155
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses...
673
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,408
All of a sudden,
the whole room dropped to ice-cold.
674
00:35:19,492 --> 00:35:21,619
- [prayer continues indistinctly]
- [wind whistling]
675
00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:27,708
We immediately realized
something was wrong.
676
00:35:27,792 --> 00:35:31,379
[all] Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us...
677
00:35:31,462 --> 00:35:34,549
Within minutes,
David's behavior started to change.
678
00:35:36,759 --> 00:35:38,678
[demonic growl]
679
00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:45,643
He started growling, hissing,
calling the priest all kinds of names.
680
00:35:45,726 --> 00:35:48,062
[possessed David] Fat dick, pork chop.
681
00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:49,897
You'll die.
682
00:35:50,815 --> 00:35:52,275
David shook and shuddered.
683
00:35:52,358 --> 00:35:54,360
[possessed David screaming]
684
00:35:54,443 --> 00:35:55,778
His features changed.
685
00:35:55,862 --> 00:35:58,030
[screaming]
686
00:35:58,114 --> 00:36:02,034
You're watching his body
jerk from side to side.
687
00:36:02,118 --> 00:36:05,496
[in raspy voice] Fuck you and your shit!
688
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:07,165
[hissing]
689
00:36:08,958 --> 00:36:12,044
Then he would break free
and... and try to attack Father Virgulak,
690
00:36:12,128 --> 00:36:14,213
so we had to pin him down.
691
00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:17,216
I remember holding on to his leg.
692
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:18,384
[demonic growl]
693
00:36:18,467 --> 00:36:20,344
[Alan] Ed Warren
holding onto the other one.
694
00:36:20,428 --> 00:36:23,222
- [screaming continues]
- [Father Virgulak] It is now a time with...
695
00:36:23,306 --> 00:36:26,642
He would move his body in positions
that you shouldn't be able to bend.
696
00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:30,980
As I would hold him down,
I would tell him how Jesus loves him.
697
00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:34,483
[young Arne] You are weak.
Jesus is a lot stronger than you are.
698
00:36:35,067 --> 00:36:37,153
You... You are so weak.
699
00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:40,406
God, this is God's child.
You can't hurt God's child.
700
00:36:40,489 --> 00:36:42,783
[possessed David]
Jesus is gonna die in hell.
701
00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:44,928
- [Judy] Mommy loves you.
- [possessed David growling]
702
00:36:44,952 --> 00:36:46,078
[ominous music plays]
703
00:36:46,162 --> 00:36:48,748
It knew that this was the final blowdown.
704
00:36:49,332 --> 00:36:52,627
[young Arne] He needs a crucifix.
You can give it to me. It's been blessed.
705
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:55,922
Arne had taken the crucifix
and placed it on his forehead.
706
00:36:56,005 --> 00:36:58,591
- [young Arne] He's on your head.
- [possessed David screaming]
707
00:36:58,674 --> 00:36:59,926
[Alan] You could see it sizzle.
708
00:37:00,426 --> 00:37:02,613
[Father Virgulak]
In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ...
709
00:37:02,637 --> 00:37:03,637
[screams, wheezes]
710
00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:06,098
At one point,
his tongue swelled up so much
711
00:37:06,182 --> 00:37:08,559
that he couldn't breathe.
712
00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:09,810
He turned blue.
713
00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:12,063
Everybody's screaming. We gotta stop.
714
00:37:12,146 --> 00:37:13,439
[all clamoring]
715
00:37:13,522 --> 00:37:16,234
[Arne] You feel helpless, empty.
716
00:37:16,317 --> 00:37:17,526
[possessed David gasping]
717
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:20,613
I yelled at this thing
to the top of my lungs.
718
00:37:20,696 --> 00:37:24,075
I said, "Leave this little kid alone.
Take me on."
719
00:37:24,158 --> 00:37:26,118
"I'm here. Take me on."
720
00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:28,204
[loud rumbling]
721
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,332
I felt this coldness come over me.
722
00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:32,250
Ice-cold.
723
00:37:32,333 --> 00:37:33,626
[eerie music playing]
724
00:37:33,709 --> 00:37:37,004
Lorraine said, "Oh my God.
What did you do?"
725
00:37:40,132 --> 00:37:42,426
Ed goes, "Uh, you... you can't do this."
726
00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:46,347
You don't challenge
any kind of demonic entity, ever.
727
00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:48,099
We didn't know any better.
728
00:37:48,182 --> 00:37:50,184
He thought
he was just trying to help David.
729
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:51,727
[brooding music playing]
730
00:37:52,603 --> 00:37:56,524
I remember my grandfather saying to him,
"You shouldn't say that."
731
00:37:56,607 --> 00:38:00,236
"That just opens the door
for you to be attacked."
732
00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:01,821
And he was right.
733
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,743
[Alan] But we felt that it was over.
734
00:38:08,577 --> 00:38:10,288
David was exorcised.
735
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:13,207
[music continues]
736
00:38:13,291 --> 00:38:15,293
[sobbing]
737
00:38:15,918 --> 00:38:18,963
[church bell tolling]
738
00:38:20,214 --> 00:38:21,757
[gentle music playing]
739
00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:24,719
[people speaking indistinctly]
740
00:38:27,888 --> 00:38:30,057
[David] I remember I was happy.
741
00:38:31,767 --> 00:38:34,979
I spent a lot of time
just playing outside,
742
00:38:36,731 --> 00:38:39,859
trying to be a good kid,
be the good boy of the family.
743
00:38:39,942 --> 00:38:41,444
[kids laughing]
744
00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:44,155
[David] My mom, she baked,
745
00:38:45,114 --> 00:38:46,532
feed us, keep us happy.
746
00:38:46,615 --> 00:38:48,951
[sinister music playing]
747
00:38:49,035 --> 00:38:52,413
[Alan] We thought we were going
to have a new start.
748
00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:54,582
[laughing]
749
00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,293
And it didn't work out that way.
750
00:38:58,794 --> 00:39:00,921
[pensive music playing]
751
00:39:11,223 --> 00:39:15,019
{\an8}I was aware
that there were strange things,
752
00:39:15,102 --> 00:39:18,397
{\an8}demonic things, allegedly happening
at the Glatzel house.
753
00:39:18,481 --> 00:39:19,774
[bird squawking]
754
00:39:19,857 --> 00:39:23,486
Some of the police officers had gotten
noise complaints there or something.
755
00:39:23,569 --> 00:39:25,613
I was a detective on duty,
756
00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:28,824
and Ed and Lorraine Warren
came to the old police department
757
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:30,409
on Grays Bridge Road.
758
00:39:31,744 --> 00:39:35,956
Ed Warren introduced himself
as a demonologist,
759
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,542
and Lorraine Warren
introduced herself as a psychic.
760
00:39:38,626 --> 00:39:40,836
[pensive music playing]
761
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,922
Lorraine was upset.
762
00:39:43,005 --> 00:39:47,551
She went on to tell me
that during one of the actual exorcisms,
763
00:39:47,635 --> 00:39:50,888
Arne Cheyenne Johnson challenged the devil
764
00:39:50,971 --> 00:39:53,808
to leave David Glatzel and take him on.
765
00:39:53,891 --> 00:39:56,185
Lorraine was very upset about that.
766
00:39:56,268 --> 00:40:00,022
She says, "He should not have done that.
You cannot do that."
767
00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:02,566
"He does not know what he's up against."
768
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:08,072
And she said, "I see serious injury
or death with a knife."
769
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:11,450
She wanted to put us on notice
that a crime could occur.
770
00:40:11,534 --> 00:40:13,261
That she actually...
I want to make it clear.
771
00:40:13,285 --> 00:40:16,205
She said,
"I see this happening as a psychic."
772
00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:20,126
She was matter-of-fact.
She didn't look bizarre.
773
00:40:20,209 --> 00:40:21,877
She didn't act bizarre.
774
00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:26,757
I thought she was relating
what she really believed,
775
00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:29,093
and to her, it was real.
776
00:40:29,176 --> 00:40:33,556
And lo and behold,
apparently, it was real.
777
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:36,809
[pensive music continues]
778
00:40:39,019 --> 00:40:41,021
[indistinct chatter]
779
00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:45,317
My sister took a job
at the kennels in Brookfield.
780
00:40:45,401 --> 00:40:46,610
[dog barking]
781
00:40:47,194 --> 00:40:48,946
She wanted to start a life with Arne.
782
00:40:50,072 --> 00:40:51,198
[Debbie] I'm a dog groomer.
783
00:40:51,282 --> 00:40:56,120
{\an8}My boss was Alan Bono,
who became a friend of Arne's and mine.
784
00:40:57,204 --> 00:40:59,415
Arne and I ended up getting an apartment,
785
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,209
and the apartment
came with the job and so on.
786
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:03,878
[clipper whirring]
787
00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:09,758
{\an8}Oh, we were really excited about being...
to be able to live together.
788
00:41:09,842 --> 00:41:12,928
{\an8}We were able to take a deep breath
and let things calm down
789
00:41:13,012 --> 00:41:16,765
after all the trial and tribulation
we'd just been through.
790
00:41:18,601 --> 00:41:22,229
We felt a sense of relief.
Like, "Oh, it's finally over."
791
00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:24,648
"It's over. Now we can get some peace."
792
00:41:24,732 --> 00:41:26,567
[calm music playing]
793
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:35,367
[Lorraine] Remember that
when you challenge the demonic,
794
00:41:36,076 --> 00:41:39,955
it doesn't act
at that particular given time.
795
00:41:40,539 --> 00:41:43,918
It waits until
you are the most vulnerable,
796
00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:45,794
then it strikes.
797
00:41:53,928 --> 00:41:56,972
[Arne] I didn't feel that well
when we got up that morning, Debbie and I.
798
00:41:57,473 --> 00:41:59,016
I felt a little ill.
799
00:42:00,059 --> 00:42:02,811
We traveled down to Bridgeport
to pick up my sisters
800
00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:05,773
'cause we had plans
on that weekend to spend time with them.
801
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:12,863
We got together with Alan Bono at lunch,
so we had a couple glasses of wine.
802
00:42:13,364 --> 00:42:17,368
But you could see
that Alan was getting a little inebriated.
803
00:42:17,451 --> 00:42:18,702
And I just said to Debbie,
804
00:42:18,786 --> 00:42:20,746
I looked at Debbie
and I turned and I said,
805
00:42:20,829 --> 00:42:23,415
"Deb, why don't we just leave?
I think it's a good time to leave
806
00:42:23,499 --> 00:42:25,219
and take the girls
out of this environment."
807
00:42:25,251 --> 00:42:27,586
[inhales deeply]
Nothing bad was happening,
808
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:29,672
but he was just getting
a little boisterous
809
00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:32,675
and this and that, and I didn't want
my sisters to be around that.
810
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,302
We started walking down the stairs,
811
00:42:36,762 --> 00:42:40,599
and then I personally
don't remember anything after that.
812
00:42:40,683 --> 00:42:42,434
[unsettling music playing]
813
00:42:43,018 --> 00:42:45,479
[phone ringing]
814
00:42:47,147 --> 00:42:49,567
[David] I think it was maybe seven
or eight o'clock at night.
815
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:51,610
[phone continues ringing]
816
00:42:51,694 --> 00:42:53,445
And I remember the phone rang.
817
00:42:53,529 --> 00:42:55,864
[suspenseful music playing]
818
00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:58,826
[ringing continues]
819
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:02,913
- Hello?
- My sister was on the phone crying.
820
00:43:03,455 --> 00:43:04,495
[Debbie crying over phone]
821
00:43:04,540 --> 00:43:09,253
[David] Before she can say anything,
I had a vision of a man...
822
00:43:10,337 --> 00:43:11,171
dead.
823
00:43:11,255 --> 00:43:12,840
[Debbie sobbing]
824
00:43:13,674 --> 00:43:15,342
David, get Mom! Get Mom!
825
00:43:15,426 --> 00:43:19,471
Next thing you know, within ten seconds,
my mom's screaming. So I'm like, "Oh God."
826
00:43:19,555 --> 00:43:21,682
[suspenseful music continues]
827
00:43:22,516 --> 00:43:24,059
[speaking indistinctly]
828
00:43:24,143 --> 00:43:27,771
[Alan] She told my dad, "Get in the car.
We gotta go to the kennel."
829
00:43:29,857 --> 00:43:33,319
David told me that Alan Bono's dead.
830
00:43:34,570 --> 00:43:36,322
"How? What? What are you talking about?"
831
00:43:37,364 --> 00:43:40,409
David said,
"Arne Cheyenne Johnson was possessed."
832
00:43:42,161 --> 00:43:44,204
"It's the beast. He killed him."
833
00:43:44,705 --> 00:43:47,541
[ominous music playing]
834
00:43:47,625 --> 00:43:49,752
[Glenn] I got a call from dispatch.
835
00:43:49,835 --> 00:43:52,046
I was told
that there was a serious stabbing.
836
00:43:52,671 --> 00:43:54,590
We're calling all hands on deck.
837
00:43:56,967 --> 00:44:00,596
Deborah Glatzel told
arriving police patrol units
838
00:44:01,096 --> 00:44:03,474
that Arne and Alan had been drinking.
839
00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:09,813
In the apartment, there was an argument,
and it developed into a physical fight.
840
00:44:09,897 --> 00:44:14,985
Ended out on the front lawn of the kennel
about 13, 15 feet from the front door.
841
00:44:16,779 --> 00:44:20,616
During this fight, Arne pulled out a knife
that he had in a sheath,
842
00:44:21,867 --> 00:44:25,663
and he repeatedly stabbed Alan Bono.
843
00:44:27,331 --> 00:44:29,875
Alan Bono fell mortally wounded.
844
00:44:32,795 --> 00:44:36,090
Debbie Glatzel, uh, was very distraught,
845
00:44:36,173 --> 00:44:38,676
relayed that Arne took off to the woods,
846
00:44:38,759 --> 00:44:42,596
and that she thought
he was gonna head to the family home
847
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,516
on, uh, Oak Grove Road,
which is not very far away.
848
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,935
[ominous music continues]
849
00:44:50,354 --> 00:44:52,648
[David] I just had this image of Arne.
850
00:44:54,108 --> 00:44:57,069
And I could see him heading
towards my house in Brookfield.
851
00:44:58,654 --> 00:45:02,408
And then I knew right away
Arne was possessed by the devil.
852
00:45:03,742 --> 00:45:04,742
[music ends]
853
00:45:05,869 --> 00:45:07,579
[objects clattering]
854
00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:09,707
[young David breathing heavily]
855
00:45:09,790 --> 00:45:11,750
[Alan] My brother panicked.
856
00:45:13,168 --> 00:45:16,714
He's dragging the bureau,
with me, over to the door.
857
00:45:16,797 --> 00:45:20,050
We've locked the door and secured it
with a bureau because he's like,
858
00:45:20,134 --> 00:45:21,635
"He's coming to kill me."
859
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,971
- [eerie music playing]
- [heart pounding]
860
00:45:24,054 --> 00:45:25,806
[Arne breathing heavily]
861
00:45:25,889 --> 00:45:29,143
[Alan] Never in my life
was I afraid of Arne Cheyenne Johnson,
862
00:45:29,226 --> 00:45:30,102
not at all.
863
00:45:30,185 --> 00:45:33,021
But when David told me
he was under demonic possession,
864
00:45:33,856 --> 00:45:35,482
I was scared shitless.
865
00:45:36,275 --> 00:45:38,610
- [horn honking]
- [siren wailing]
866
00:45:39,611 --> 00:45:44,032
The ambulance driver, returning
from taking Alan Bono to the hospital,
867
00:45:44,616 --> 00:45:47,619
he saw a suspect matching the description,
868
00:45:48,537 --> 00:45:52,875
called the police department,
and they took him into custody.
869
00:45:52,958 --> 00:45:54,626
[indistinct radio chatter]
870
00:45:55,961 --> 00:46:00,799
If it wasn't for that ambulance driver,
I or my brother David could be dead today.
871
00:46:00,883 --> 00:46:02,009
[dramatic sting plays]
872
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:06,263
[phone rings]
873
00:46:06,346 --> 00:46:09,141
[Glenn] I was assigned
to process Arne Cheyenne Johnson.
874
00:46:09,224 --> 00:46:13,145
I took his fingerprints.
Uh, I gave him his rights per Miranda.
875
00:46:13,228 --> 00:46:14,521
{\an8}[camera clicking]
876
00:46:14,605 --> 00:46:20,402
{\an8}He just looked like he was in trouble,
been involved in a fight, disheveled.
877
00:46:20,486 --> 00:46:21,737
{\an8}Things weren't right.
878
00:46:23,739 --> 00:46:26,074
I was totally exhausted.
I couldn't even stand up.
879
00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:27,284
I was on this bench.
880
00:46:27,367 --> 00:46:28,744
[inhales deeply]
881
00:46:28,827 --> 00:46:33,290
And I asked him. I said, "Why am I here?
What's going on? What's going on?"
882
00:46:33,373 --> 00:46:36,460
And he said,
"Well, you just killed your friend."
883
00:46:37,252 --> 00:46:38,504
I said, "I did not."
884
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,926
I... I totally did not believe that.
I said, "You're totally wrong."
885
00:46:44,009 --> 00:46:46,011
"Alan's fine. We left the house."
886
00:46:46,094 --> 00:46:49,097
He goes, "No, he's dead,
and you killed him."
887
00:46:51,016 --> 00:46:54,144
There was no crying.
There was no "I'm sorry."
888
00:46:54,228 --> 00:46:56,313
It's, "I just don't know what's going on."
889
00:46:56,396 --> 00:46:59,858
He couldn't recall
anything about the murder.
890
00:47:02,110 --> 00:47:03,529
I've never hurt anybody.
891
00:47:04,488 --> 00:47:05,489
Never.
892
00:47:05,572 --> 00:47:08,283
I've never been arrested for anything.
893
00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:11,745
So... And I said that to them. And I said,
894
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:14,248
"There's no way I did this.
You got the wrong person."
895
00:47:14,331 --> 00:47:15,331
{\an8}[camera clicks]
896
00:47:20,003 --> 00:47:23,465
{\an8}In the case of David Glatzel,
when Arne Johnson became possessed
897
00:47:23,549 --> 00:47:27,553
{\an8}as a result of his assisting
and in challenging the demonic entity,
898
00:47:27,636 --> 00:47:28,804
this is a possibility.
899
00:47:28,887 --> 00:47:32,933
I have seen in the literature.
They call this "transmigration,"
900
00:47:33,475 --> 00:47:37,938
and this is where a diabolical spirit
might go from a possessed person
901
00:47:38,021 --> 00:47:40,274
to someone who is maybe present
during an exorcism.
902
00:47:40,357 --> 00:47:42,609
[disturbing music playing]
903
00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:45,237
A defense attorney in Connecticut
904
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,198
will try to prove his client
is not guilty of murder
905
00:47:48,282 --> 00:47:49,992
because the 19-year-old defendant
906
00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:53,370
allegedly said that he was possessed
by the devil at the time of the killing.
907
00:47:53,453 --> 00:47:56,081
[newscaster 1]
Nineteen-year-old Arne Cheyenne Johnson,
908
00:47:56,164 --> 00:47:57,958
with no previous history of violence,
909
00:47:58,041 --> 00:48:01,378
is charged with the knifing murder
of his landlord, Alan Bono,
910
00:48:01,461 --> 00:48:05,257
and claims he was possessed by demons
at the time and doesn't remember doing it.
911
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:06,800
[camera clicking]
912
00:48:06,884 --> 00:48:09,845
[newscaster 2] His lover, Deborah Glatzel,
who was there when it happened
913
00:48:09,928 --> 00:48:12,139
and whose 11-year-old brother
was said to be possessed,
914
00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:14,224
gave her account of what happened.
915
00:48:14,308 --> 00:48:17,978
{\an8}I did not see no stabbing take place.
I was right in the middle of it.
916
00:48:18,061 --> 00:48:19,438
{\an8}[reporter] What did you witness?
917
00:48:19,938 --> 00:48:23,275
Um, just a lot of pushing and shoving.
918
00:48:23,358 --> 00:48:24,443
[reporter] Then what?
919
00:48:24,943 --> 00:48:27,070
And then, all hell broke loose.
920
00:48:28,196 --> 00:48:30,616
[Arne] Debbie felt
that it would be proven,
921
00:48:31,283 --> 00:48:35,704
felt very positive that we were gonna
be able to prove demonic possession.
922
00:48:36,288 --> 00:48:38,290
After what we've all been through,
923
00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:42,085
it should tell everyone
that the devil is for real.
924
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,920
[newscaster 3] Johnson's attorney,
Martin Minnella,
925
00:48:44,963 --> 00:48:47,007
made no mention
of demons in the courtroom.
926
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:49,509
{\an8}Until we have the results
of the pathologist's report,
927
00:48:49,593 --> 00:48:54,556
{\an8}our own pathologist's report,
and the autopsy, we can't do anything.
928
00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:58,393
I was not a believer in the paranormal.
929
00:48:58,477 --> 00:49:04,983
{\an8}So before I really got too much involved,
I said I wanted to do some research.
930
00:49:05,067 --> 00:49:06,526
[suspenseful music playing]
931
00:49:07,694 --> 00:49:10,280
Ed and Lorraine Warren told me,
932
00:49:10,364 --> 00:49:13,659
"It wasn't Arne Johnson himself."
933
00:49:13,742 --> 00:49:18,705
"It was the demon
who took over Arne's body
934
00:49:19,206 --> 00:49:21,166
and killed Alan Bono."
935
00:49:21,249 --> 00:49:23,001
[music fades]
936
00:49:23,085 --> 00:49:25,921
My partner thought they were crackpots
937
00:49:26,004 --> 00:49:30,050
and said, "Listen, stay as far away
from this case as you can."
938
00:49:30,133 --> 00:49:32,010
But I wanted to hear more.
939
00:49:32,094 --> 00:49:34,805
[reporter] Outside, it looks like
a quaint New England home.
940
00:49:34,888 --> 00:49:38,475
Inside, it resembles a set
from a Hollywood horror movie.
941
00:49:38,558 --> 00:49:41,436
It's a museum documenting
paranormal activity.
942
00:49:41,937 --> 00:49:45,357
And Ed and Lorraine Warren say
everything you see comes from real events.
943
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,653
You're in a building right now
which houses probably, uh...
944
00:49:49,736 --> 00:49:53,740
the most dangerous items
of a preternatural nature in the world.
945
00:49:53,824 --> 00:49:55,424
- [eerie music playing]
- [evil laughter]
946
00:49:55,450 --> 00:49:58,787
Down in a room
where they had all these artifacts,
947
00:49:59,287 --> 00:50:03,291
{\an8}including a doll, which they said,
"Don't ever touch that doll."
948
00:50:03,375 --> 00:50:05,585
{\an8}Doll's name was Annabelle, I believe.
949
00:50:06,795 --> 00:50:08,922
They played me these tapes.
950
00:50:10,340 --> 00:50:12,092
[Judy on tape] Stay there!
951
00:50:12,175 --> 00:50:13,719
- [possessed David] No!
- [Judy] Yes!
952
00:50:14,469 --> 00:50:16,722
- Stay there!
- [possessed David laughs evilly]
953
00:50:16,805 --> 00:50:19,766
[Martin] The Warrens showed me
all the evidence they had.
954
00:50:19,850 --> 00:50:21,518
[camera clicking]
955
00:50:21,601 --> 00:50:23,103
[Lorraine] Open your eyes, David.
956
00:50:23,729 --> 00:50:27,858
And, to me,
it was very credible and believable.
957
00:50:29,192 --> 00:50:31,737
I believed in the story,
958
00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:34,364
I believed in the defense,
959
00:50:34,448 --> 00:50:38,785
and I also believed there probably
wasn't another lawyer in the state
960
00:50:39,286 --> 00:50:42,456
that would represent him
with this defense.
961
00:50:44,249 --> 00:50:45,834
[newscaster] "The devil made me do it."
962
00:50:46,418 --> 00:50:50,255
That's precisely what criminal lawyer
Martin Minnella says he will try to prove
963
00:50:50,338 --> 00:50:52,174
when his client comes to trial.
964
00:50:52,257 --> 00:50:58,472
The nature of our defense is one
that has been used in England.
965
00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:03,060
It's never been used in the United States,
the defense of demonic possession.
966
00:51:03,143 --> 00:51:06,063
{\an8}[Brian] An indictment against
Arne Johnson, who lived upstairs here,
967
00:51:06,146 --> 00:51:07,856
is expected March 19th.
968
00:51:07,939 --> 00:51:10,567
Already, three cases
have been tried in England.
969
00:51:10,650 --> 00:51:12,944
Two on charges of arson, one on rape.
970
00:51:13,028 --> 00:51:17,449
The verdict in all cases, not guilty
by reason of demonic possession.
971
00:51:17,949 --> 00:51:20,285
{\an8}In my 15-year journalism career,
972
00:51:20,368 --> 00:51:23,330
{\an8}this was by far
the most bizarre story I ever covered.
973
00:51:23,413 --> 00:51:24,873
[newscaster] Lorraine and Ed Warren,
974
00:51:24,956 --> 00:51:28,210
known as long-time students
and lecturers on matters occult.
975
00:51:28,794 --> 00:51:32,255
The Warrens argue it was
the demonic influence now inside Johnson
976
00:51:32,339 --> 00:51:33,882
that drove him to kill.
977
00:51:33,965 --> 00:51:38,011
The whole issue of demonic possession
from a reporter's perspective
978
00:51:38,095 --> 00:51:40,097
is... is terribly difficult.
979
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:43,058
Uh, because you, uh, cannot prove it.
980
00:51:43,141 --> 00:51:44,976
You cannot disprove it.
981
00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:49,356
Uh, the best you can do as a good reporter
is to try and find facts.
982
00:51:50,982 --> 00:51:54,820
Six days after the stabbing,
I was, uh, introduced to the Warrens.
983
00:51:55,987 --> 00:51:57,948
[pensive music playing]
984
00:51:58,031 --> 00:51:59,199
We had made arrangements.
985
00:51:59,282 --> 00:52:01,910
They were gonna let me have
some audio tapes.
986
00:52:01,993 --> 00:52:05,664
And that I would be free to put these on,
uh, the two radio stations
987
00:52:05,747 --> 00:52:07,541
if... if I wanted to do that.
988
00:52:08,375 --> 00:52:10,460
[over radio]
Good afternoon. This is Mike Allen.
989
00:52:10,544 --> 00:52:13,380
WINE News has obtained
some rather dramatic tapes
990
00:52:13,463 --> 00:52:16,967
said to be associated with the so-called
"devil made me do it" stabbing death
991
00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:18,050
in Brookfield.
992
00:52:18,552 --> 00:52:21,388
[young Arne] In the name of the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit,
993
00:52:21,471 --> 00:52:23,181
I command you to leave this boy.
994
00:52:23,265 --> 00:52:26,852
The cross is right on your forehead.
You can't hurt God's child.
995
00:52:26,935 --> 00:52:29,146
[possessed David]
Jesus is gonna die in hell.
996
00:52:29,229 --> 00:52:31,349
- [Judy] Mommy loves you.
- [possessed David growling]
997
00:52:31,398 --> 00:52:33,066
[possessed David laughs]
998
00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:37,195
[Mike] And I was anticipating
that we would get a lot of phone calls
999
00:52:37,279 --> 00:52:39,364
from people saying,
"Why did you put this on?"
1000
00:52:39,447 --> 00:52:40,657
"You're horrendous."
1001
00:52:41,741 --> 00:52:44,744
But most of the phone calls were,
"When are you gonna play it again?"
1002
00:52:44,828 --> 00:52:46,204
[unsettling music playing]
1003
00:52:47,289 --> 00:52:50,083
I was getting mail
from across the country,
1004
00:52:50,167 --> 00:52:53,920
uh, from psychics and... and people
in the paranormal field
1005
00:52:54,004 --> 00:52:55,881
offering their services to me.
1006
00:52:55,964 --> 00:52:59,801
Then you would get to the non-believers,
who are like, "Are you kidding?"
1007
00:52:59,885 --> 00:53:01,887
"There was drinking.
There was a stabbing."
1008
00:53:01,970 --> 00:53:03,430
"This is an open-shut case."
1009
00:53:03,513 --> 00:53:06,141
"Why are you even giving this airtime?
This is ridiculous."
1010
00:53:06,766 --> 00:53:08,446
[newscaster]
On a visit to the murder site,
1011
00:53:08,476 --> 00:53:11,563
none of the neighbors, including a priest
who was involved in the case,
1012
00:53:11,646 --> 00:53:12,772
wanted to talk about it.
1013
00:53:13,273 --> 00:53:18,862
I did reach out to, uh, priests
who were at the so-called exorcisms.
1014
00:53:19,446 --> 00:53:23,241
So what I said to them was,
"Look, there are allegations
1015
00:53:23,825 --> 00:53:27,495
that during these ceremonies,
furniture was flying around the room,
1016
00:53:27,579 --> 00:53:30,665
that there was levitation observed."
1017
00:53:30,749 --> 00:53:34,586
"Uh, all I'm asking you to do
is to just say,
1018
00:53:34,669 --> 00:53:36,671
'That's nonsense. It didn't happen.'"
1019
00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:40,300
"And then we can all go on our way."
They wouldn't say that.
1020
00:53:41,551 --> 00:53:44,429
[host] Ed, what do you say
to somebody who says,
1021
00:53:44,512 --> 00:53:47,599
"I just don't believe any of this."
1022
00:53:47,682 --> 00:53:49,362
Well, I would hope
you weren't on the jury.
1023
00:53:49,392 --> 00:53:50,602
[church bell tolling]
1024
00:53:50,685 --> 00:53:54,481
[Ed] We can back up this case history
with numerous other case histories
1025
00:53:54,564 --> 00:53:57,776
which we've been involved with,
and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
1026
00:53:57,859 --> 00:54:00,737
that preternatural phenomenon
was taking place here.
1027
00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:04,908
[projector clicking]
1028
00:54:06,034 --> 00:54:08,203
[pensive music playing]
1029
00:54:13,667 --> 00:54:15,418
[Carl] The photos look super happy.
1030
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,505
{\an8}I mean, I can't argue with you.
1031
00:54:19,673 --> 00:54:23,343
{\an8}But there was...
a different side when those doors closed.
1032
00:54:23,426 --> 00:54:24,928
I can tell you that much.
1033
00:54:28,139 --> 00:54:30,642
We were far from the normal,
happy American family.
1034
00:54:30,725 --> 00:54:32,143
My mother had her agenda.
1035
00:54:32,227 --> 00:54:35,480
If things weren't going her way,
she'd throw a tantrum.
1036
00:54:37,732 --> 00:54:40,694
In front of people, she'd try
to portray herself as a holy roller
1037
00:54:40,777 --> 00:54:45,031
and all this other stuff,
but that was not even close to reality.
1038
00:54:45,615 --> 00:54:47,867
She didn't even go to church
or any of this stuff
1039
00:54:47,951 --> 00:54:49,411
until all this stuff with David.
1040
00:54:49,494 --> 00:54:51,871
And when Lorraine Warren
stepped in the picture,
1041
00:54:51,955 --> 00:54:53,456
that's when everybody came like,
1042
00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:55,643
"Oh, we gotta wear scapulars.
We gotta wear rosaries."
1043
00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:56,667
And... [inhales deeply]
1044
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:57,836
I wasn't buying it.
1045
00:55:00,005 --> 00:55:03,383
I was 15 when my brother
was supposedly possessed.
1046
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:08,179
I'd never talked before
on camera or anything,
1047
00:55:08,263 --> 00:55:13,810
and I just wanted the truth to come out
because an innocent man got killed.
1048
00:55:14,686 --> 00:55:17,063
And they wanna play it off
"the devil made me do it"?
1049
00:55:17,605 --> 00:55:21,192
It's just far from the truth.
I know because I lived it.
1050
00:55:23,486 --> 00:55:25,989
[gentle music playing]
1051
00:55:31,995 --> 00:55:35,206
I was outside,
and Ed and Lorraine arrived.
1052
00:55:37,334 --> 00:55:40,253
Ed Warren, he says,
"What's going on here?"
1053
00:55:40,337 --> 00:55:43,548
And I said,
"Honestly, I think my family is nuts."
1054
00:55:47,927 --> 00:55:49,804
I remember saying that to Ed Warren.
1055
00:55:49,888 --> 00:55:51,890
[gentle music continues]
1056
00:55:53,892 --> 00:55:57,979
I didn't know what Ed and Lorraine
Warren's agenda was in the beginning.
1057
00:55:58,813 --> 00:55:59,898
[indistinct chatter]
1058
00:55:59,981 --> 00:56:03,568
[Carl] I just sat back and watched,
and things didn't sit right with me.
1059
00:56:03,651 --> 00:56:05,445
What would you do if you were in charge?
1060
00:56:05,528 --> 00:56:07,208
[Carl] They'd sit down
at the kitchen table
1061
00:56:07,238 --> 00:56:08,365
to discuss David's issues.
1062
00:56:08,948 --> 00:56:10,348
You don't like these things, right?
1063
00:56:10,408 --> 00:56:11,659
- [young David] No.
- No?
1064
00:56:11,743 --> 00:56:12,744
[Carl] They were saying,
1065
00:56:12,827 --> 00:56:16,164
"Well, he can start cursing at you,
spitting at you."
1066
00:56:16,247 --> 00:56:18,750
"He'll grunt and growl like a savage."
1067
00:56:19,751 --> 00:56:20,752
And my concern was,
1068
00:56:20,835 --> 00:56:24,422
why talk about the subject
when we're sitting right there?
1069
00:56:26,049 --> 00:56:29,010
Have the kids go outside,
go downstairs, go do something.
1070
00:56:29,094 --> 00:56:33,098
But they wanted to make sure, you know,
we heard it, and we did.
1071
00:56:33,890 --> 00:56:36,351
Like you're leading them on what to do.
1072
00:56:36,434 --> 00:56:38,770
[Ed] What kind of things
did he do when he wasn't David?
1073
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:41,707
- [Judy] Spit, swear, started to swear.
- [Arne] He swore a lot.
1074
00:56:41,731 --> 00:56:44,776
- [Ed] Swear at the priest?
- [Judy] And me. Yeah, a lot was directed...
1075
00:56:44,859 --> 00:56:47,445
[Carl] You don't think
David's smart enough to put that together?
1076
00:56:48,029 --> 00:56:51,533
A couple of days later,
David was doing just that,
1077
00:56:51,616 --> 00:56:52,909
word for word.
1078
00:56:54,035 --> 00:56:56,715
- [Judy] All right, son.
- [possessed David] You fucking cocksucker.
1079
00:56:56,746 --> 00:56:57,997
I'll penalize you!
1080
00:56:58,790 --> 00:56:59,666
[Judy] David, stop it.
1081
00:56:59,749 --> 00:57:01,835
[possessed David]
You goddamn deserve to die!
1082
00:57:01,918 --> 00:57:05,004
- You don't deserve to live!
- [Judy] David. David, calm down.
1083
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:07,215
[possessed David] You'll die!
1084
00:57:07,757 --> 00:57:09,884
You fat frigging fucking bitch.
1085
00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:11,469
[spits]
1086
00:57:11,970 --> 00:57:15,056
In the beginning,
the Warrens did come over a lot,
1087
00:57:15,140 --> 00:57:16,724
like every other day.
1088
00:57:16,808 --> 00:57:18,768
The first week, I think,
they showed up every day.
1089
00:57:18,852 --> 00:57:22,021
[Judy] Mommy's here. Mommy's here.
Come on, wake up. Come on, get up.
1090
00:57:22,105 --> 00:57:24,274
[Carl] Every night
they had the cameras ready.
1091
00:57:24,357 --> 00:57:26,627
- [Judy] Get out of my son.
- [Carl] The microphones ready.
1092
00:57:26,651 --> 00:57:29,487
- [possessed David] No! No!
- [Judy] I'm your mother.
1093
00:57:29,529 --> 00:57:31,614
[Carl] It turned into a show.
1094
00:57:31,698 --> 00:57:34,284
- [Judy speaking indistinctly]
- [possessed David] Don't do that!
1095
00:57:34,367 --> 00:57:36,202
[laughs evilly]
1096
00:57:36,286 --> 00:57:40,290
[Judy] David! Just get up!
My God! Get up, come on!
1097
00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:45,378
[Carl] Instead of focusing their energy
on helping David, record him.
1098
00:57:45,462 --> 00:57:47,338
[camera clicks, whirs]
1099
00:57:47,422 --> 00:57:49,462
You know,
everything could've been done differently.
1100
00:57:49,507 --> 00:57:51,301
[camera clicks, whirs]
1101
00:57:51,384 --> 00:57:53,428
There was one incident one evening
1102
00:57:53,511 --> 00:57:56,014
that my mother was screaming at David
1103
00:57:56,097 --> 00:57:59,100
to stop it, and stop it
and calm down, sit down.
1104
00:57:59,184 --> 00:58:01,224
And he started calling her
everything under the sun.
1105
00:58:01,269 --> 00:58:03,189
[possessed David]
You fat frigging fucking bitch.
1106
00:58:03,229 --> 00:58:05,607
[Carl] And all of a sudden,
my father came out.
1107
00:58:05,690 --> 00:58:07,710
- [David] You don't deserve to live!
- [Judy] David...
1108
00:58:07,734 --> 00:58:08,651
Get up!
1109
00:58:08,735 --> 00:58:09,735
You hear "slap."
1110
00:58:10,361 --> 00:58:12,121
[David's father]
Get over there and sit down.
1111
00:58:12,155 --> 00:58:13,823
[Carl] He goes, "Now I said to stop."
1112
00:58:13,907 --> 00:58:16,159
[David's father]
Enough! No more. It's got to stop.
1113
00:58:16,242 --> 00:58:21,498
And sure enough, the, uh, devil sat down
and was very quiet.
1114
00:58:22,499 --> 00:58:24,792
So I'm glad at least
he listens to my father.
1115
00:58:27,212 --> 00:58:29,589
Okay, one second. Okay, give me one...
1116
00:58:30,381 --> 00:58:31,382
[engine revving]
1117
00:58:31,466 --> 00:58:34,928
[Carl] The night of the murder,
my dad and I were working outside
1118
00:58:35,011 --> 00:58:36,304
and my mother screamed,
1119
00:58:36,387 --> 00:58:37,387
[Judy yelling]
1120
00:58:37,889 --> 00:58:41,267
[Carl] "We have to get to the kennel.
Something happened. Debbie's hysterical."
1121
00:58:41,351 --> 00:58:42,810
- We have to go.
- All right.
1122
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,522
[dramatic music playing]
1123
00:58:51,778 --> 00:58:54,781
[Carl] We get there, and Debbie's like,
"Oh, there was a bad fight."
1124
00:58:54,864 --> 00:58:57,033
"Alan got stabbed. He's over there."
1125
00:58:59,035 --> 00:59:02,914
I saw Alan laying on his side. That's when
I went over to him and rolled him over.
1126
00:59:02,997 --> 00:59:04,207
Keep in mind, I'm 15 or...
1127
00:59:04,290 --> 00:59:07,252
I don't know what to do.
I never had to deal with this in my life.
1128
00:59:07,752 --> 00:59:11,005
And I remember seeing
the four stab wounds. Um, it was four.
1129
00:59:12,298 --> 00:59:15,843
He was gasping for air.
I just kept telling him, "Alan, hold on."
1130
00:59:16,844 --> 00:59:18,846
[unsettling music playing]
1131
00:59:20,890 --> 00:59:23,685
So, you know, what are you gonna do?
1132
00:59:23,768 --> 00:59:27,855
It's like you're, you know,
you're... you're stuck.
1133
00:59:27,939 --> 00:59:29,983
You know what I'm saying? It's just, uh...
1134
00:59:30,066 --> 00:59:30,984
[inhales deeply]
1135
00:59:31,067 --> 00:59:34,571
It's not a feeling I like to... You know,
I don't even talk about it, to be honest.
1136
00:59:34,654 --> 00:59:38,449
It's something I don't want to remember,
because it was just something...
1137
00:59:38,533 --> 00:59:42,579
You can't help somebody. You know,
it's like... there was nothing I could do.
1138
00:59:43,496 --> 00:59:45,999
It's just sad to see
somebody die like that.
1139
00:59:46,082 --> 00:59:48,084
[somber music playing]
1140
00:59:51,170 --> 00:59:52,589
The murder of Alan Bono,
1141
00:59:52,672 --> 00:59:55,592
I never even thought
it was connected to David.
1142
00:59:56,968 --> 00:59:59,220
There's nothing demonic in this.
1143
01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:03,433
Arne was very possessive of Debbie.
1144
01:00:05,351 --> 01:00:07,312
There was speculations and rumors
1145
01:00:07,395 --> 01:00:09,814
that Debbie was having an affair
with Alan Bono.
1146
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:14,819
[Glenn] I remember Debbie Glatzel
came to the police department,
1147
01:00:15,403 --> 01:00:17,864
and she said, "You know, I'm hearing rumor
1148
01:00:18,364 --> 01:00:23,077
that this murder was o-over a three-way,
1149
01:00:23,161 --> 01:00:28,458
a triangle between myself and Alan Bono,
uh, with Arne Cheyenne Johnson."
1150
01:00:28,541 --> 01:00:32,211
And she says, "It wasn't." She says,
"I had a relationship with Alan Bono."
1151
01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:33,338
"That's over with,
1152
01:00:33,421 --> 01:00:37,050
and this... this stabbing,
this murder had nothing to do with that."
1153
01:00:37,884 --> 01:00:40,762
A bizarre murder trial gets underway
tomorrow in Danbury, Connecticut.
1154
01:00:40,845 --> 01:00:43,723
The crux of this case is a claim
of demonic possession.
1155
01:00:43,806 --> 01:00:45,350
Jim Van Sickle reports.
1156
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:49,145
{\an8}[Jim] Will the devil be present
in this ancient courthouse
1157
01:00:49,228 --> 01:00:50,897
in Danbury, Connecticut tomorrow?
1158
01:00:51,481 --> 01:00:53,733
Might he take the stand at some point?
1159
01:00:54,692 --> 01:00:57,528
[Carl] I did not know
that the trial was beginning.
1160
01:00:58,029 --> 01:01:01,532
And on the first day of the trial,
my parents actually gave me money
1161
01:01:01,616 --> 01:01:05,620
just so I can basically skip school
and go do what I want to do for the day.
1162
01:01:06,204 --> 01:01:10,875
They were petrified
of me getting involved in the story,
1163
01:01:12,502 --> 01:01:13,795
because I knew...
1164
01:01:15,922 --> 01:01:17,298
this is all fabricated.
1165
01:01:21,678 --> 01:01:24,222
[dramatic music playing]
1166
01:01:26,974 --> 01:01:28,976
[indistinct chatter]
1167
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:41,614
[Alan] We, as a family,
thought Arne would be found innocent
1168
01:01:43,116 --> 01:01:46,327
because we were going to have the priest
1169
01:01:46,411 --> 01:01:49,706
and the Warrens
and all the evidence we gathered,
1170
01:01:49,789 --> 01:01:52,083
the audio recordings, the photographs,
1171
01:01:52,166 --> 01:01:57,338
and be able to show the court
Arne did not commit murder,
1172
01:01:57,422 --> 01:02:00,925
um, he was possessed
'cause he challenged the beast.
1173
01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:07,306
The prosecution was pushing
for a maximum sentence
1174
01:02:07,390 --> 01:02:08,891
for a guilty conviction.
1175
01:02:08,975 --> 01:02:11,728
{\an8}This is a case which, uh, the media has
1176
01:02:11,811 --> 01:02:16,441
{\an8}and the Warrens have, uh, spent
a good deal of time publicizing,
1177
01:02:16,524 --> 01:02:19,777
uh, for their own,
I would suspect, financial interest.
1178
01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:23,156
But as far as I am concerned,
this is a, uh, routine,
1179
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:26,242
to the extent it's possible
to have a routine homicide.
1180
01:02:26,325 --> 01:02:30,705
To come out and say
this was just a bunch of baloney,
1181
01:02:30,788 --> 01:02:36,502
that we were trying to cover up
just a simple murder case.
1182
01:02:36,586 --> 01:02:41,299
If Arne had been convicted of murder,
he was facing 25 to life.
1183
01:02:41,382 --> 01:02:44,302
- [suspenseful music playing]
- [cameras clicking]
1184
01:02:45,303 --> 01:02:48,431
Getting inside the courthouse
was extremely difficult.
1185
01:02:48,514 --> 01:02:49,891
It was standing room only.
1186
01:02:49,974 --> 01:02:51,976
[gavel banging]
1187
01:02:52,518 --> 01:02:54,270
Nobody knew what exactly to expect.
1188
01:02:54,353 --> 01:02:57,273
It was almost like a...
a showdown was going to occur
1189
01:02:57,356 --> 01:03:01,319
with Martin Minnella coming in
with this demonic possession defense,
1190
01:03:01,402 --> 01:03:04,363
and Judge Robert Callahan
having to make a ruling
1191
01:03:04,447 --> 01:03:06,574
on whether he was going
to admit it or not.
1192
01:03:07,658 --> 01:03:10,119
It was a reality check,
to be honest with you.
1193
01:03:11,537 --> 01:03:14,791
Here I was, in court.
Never been there before.
1194
01:03:14,874 --> 01:03:16,292
Facing 25 to life.
1195
01:03:17,627 --> 01:03:20,129
And it was, uh, surreal. Mmm.
1196
01:03:20,797 --> 01:03:22,799
[pensive music playing]
1197
01:03:24,509 --> 01:03:28,763
[Martin] I believed that my client
was going to get his day in court.
1198
01:03:29,388 --> 01:03:34,519
Let the jury evaluate the credibility
of what occurred.
1199
01:03:34,602 --> 01:03:36,646
Not just believe in faith,
1200
01:03:36,729 --> 01:03:41,067
believe in actual physical evidence
and testimony,
1201
01:03:41,609 --> 01:03:44,445
and then make their mind up based on this.
1202
01:03:45,029 --> 01:03:46,739
But it never got that far.
1203
01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:50,743
The judge listened to precedence,
to arguments, and then he said
1204
01:03:50,827 --> 01:03:54,622
that demonic possession
is not an acceptable defense.
1205
01:03:54,705 --> 01:03:57,458
It is irrelevant in this case
and in courts in the United States.
1206
01:03:57,542 --> 01:03:58,835
It is not a science,
1207
01:03:58,918 --> 01:04:02,797
and he will permit no evidence
on demonic possession and devils.
1208
01:04:03,297 --> 01:04:05,591
Jim Van Sickle, News 4, Danbury.
1209
01:04:05,675 --> 01:04:07,385
[brooding music playing]
1210
01:04:07,468 --> 01:04:08,594
I was devastated.
1211
01:04:10,638 --> 01:04:14,058
And you can hear all the sighs
from the family. Like, "Oh my God."
1212
01:04:14,559 --> 01:04:17,854
In court, you had to put your hand
on the Bible and swear on the Bible.
1213
01:04:18,354 --> 01:04:20,439
But that's okay. But other than that,
1214
01:04:20,523 --> 01:04:24,026
they don't believe anything
in... in supernatural or... or the devil.
1215
01:04:25,653 --> 01:04:26,988
So how does that work?
1216
01:04:27,822 --> 01:04:29,073
Right in front of me,
1217
01:04:29,574 --> 01:04:34,829
the five or six Catholic priests
who were there got up in unison,
1218
01:04:34,912 --> 01:04:36,789
it was almost like it was rehearsed,
1219
01:04:36,873 --> 01:04:39,584
and marched out,
never to be heard from again.
1220
01:04:39,667 --> 01:04:43,045
And the church didn't comment
on this case, uh, going forward.
1221
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:46,173
[Arne] I felt abandoned.
1222
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:50,136
Didn't have the chance
to tell the whole truth.
1223
01:04:51,554 --> 01:04:56,225
But they would never allow the truth,
so... felt lost.
1224
01:04:56,976 --> 01:04:58,352
Wha... What do we do now?
1225
01:04:58,978 --> 01:05:01,731
The trial in Danbury resumes tomorrow.
1226
01:05:01,814 --> 01:05:03,816
[news theme playing]
1227
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:08,529
[pensive music playing]
1228
01:05:08,613 --> 01:05:13,326
It became a very difficult case then
for the defense to argue
1229
01:05:14,368 --> 01:05:18,956
because you had the signed statements
with the police of his sisters,
1230
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,876
who said they saw Arne stab Alan.
1231
01:05:21,959 --> 01:05:23,799
And if you couldn't say,
"Yeah, but he did that
1232
01:05:23,878 --> 01:05:27,381
because of demonic possession,"
uh, you're left with, "He stabbed him."
1233
01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,467
[pensive music continues]
1234
01:05:30,217 --> 01:05:32,887
Martin Minnella told me that
the only thing we can really go for
1235
01:05:32,970 --> 01:05:34,430
is self-defense.
1236
01:05:36,390 --> 01:05:39,101
And he goes,
"That's the plea we're going to present."
1237
01:05:40,311 --> 01:05:43,564
Not guilty of murder
in the first degree. Manslaughter.
1238
01:05:45,691 --> 01:05:49,195
The problem is,
self-defense isn't retaliation.
1239
01:05:49,695 --> 01:05:52,239
In other words, if somebody came at you,
1240
01:05:52,323 --> 01:05:56,953
you might stab him once,
maybe twice, but not a number of times.
1241
01:05:57,036 --> 01:05:58,704
Because if you do that,
1242
01:05:59,747 --> 01:06:02,041
self-defense goes out the window.
1243
01:06:02,124 --> 01:06:03,918
[music intensifies]
1244
01:06:04,001 --> 01:06:07,088
To suddenly say that it was self-defense,
1245
01:06:07,171 --> 01:06:11,050
when it wasn't put forward
as that at the beginning,
1246
01:06:11,133 --> 01:06:13,636
um, certainly seemed unusual.
1247
01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:18,224
That was the only way
that I would have a chance
1248
01:06:18,307 --> 01:06:19,809
not to get 25 to life.
1249
01:06:21,185 --> 01:06:22,687
I had to take the stand.
1250
01:06:24,563 --> 01:06:26,482
It was kind of difficult to take the stand
1251
01:06:26,565 --> 01:06:28,734
because I really didn't remember
what happened.
1252
01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:31,445
And that's what I told them.
1253
01:06:32,738 --> 01:06:33,823
I think everybody felt
1254
01:06:33,906 --> 01:06:37,535
this was just a very unfortunate story
on so many different levels.
1255
01:06:37,618 --> 01:06:40,121
But at the same time,
there was somebody who was dead
1256
01:06:40,204 --> 01:06:44,125
and somebody who had caused that death,
and justice had to be done.
1257
01:06:45,334 --> 01:06:48,421
[pensive music playing]
1258
01:06:57,471 --> 01:06:59,473
[David] There was tension in the family.
1259
01:07:00,516 --> 01:07:04,353
My sister was... was horrified
that he was gonna be convicted of murder,
1260
01:07:04,437 --> 01:07:06,897
and he'd spend
the rest of his life in jail.
1261
01:07:09,483 --> 01:07:13,279
I was brought up to the courtroom.
The room was filled.
1262
01:07:14,238 --> 01:07:17,950
The judge came, and he got the verdict
from the foreman of the jury.
1263
01:07:19,994 --> 01:07:21,912
I was very nervous and terrified.
1264
01:07:21,996 --> 01:07:23,998
[suspenseful music playing]
1265
01:07:25,499 --> 01:07:29,545
The verdict was not guilty
of murder in the first degree,
1266
01:07:29,628 --> 01:07:32,131
guilty of manslaughter
in the first degree.
1267
01:07:34,759 --> 01:07:36,427
Then we came to sentencing.
1268
01:07:37,261 --> 01:07:40,306
I remember Judge Callahan's words
to this day.
1269
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,022
"I have no alternative but to give you
the maximum sentence allowed."
1270
01:07:48,105 --> 01:07:51,734
"Ten to 20 years
to a maximum-security prison."
1271
01:07:52,485 --> 01:07:54,111
[pensive music playing]
1272
01:07:54,945 --> 01:07:59,033
When I was handed the sentence,
Debbie jumped up and told the judge,
1273
01:07:59,784 --> 01:08:02,912
"Callahan," she goes,
"you're sick. You're insane."
1274
01:08:03,996 --> 01:08:06,332
And then she just went running, crying.
1275
01:08:09,543 --> 01:08:12,171
When I was exiting the courthouse,
1276
01:08:12,254 --> 01:08:16,759
Debbie broke through the camera people,
ran up to me to give me a kiss.
1277
01:08:20,763 --> 01:08:23,432
And I told Debbie, I said,
"I want you to go live your life
1278
01:08:23,516 --> 01:08:25,601
'cause I don't know
what's gonna happen with mine."
1279
01:08:26,602 --> 01:08:28,270
"This way you still have a life."
1280
01:08:29,063 --> 01:08:31,690
She started to cry.
She goes, "You don't love me."
1281
01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:34,401
I said, "I do love you.
That's why I'm giving you freedom."
1282
01:08:35,069 --> 01:08:36,779
She goes, "No, I will never leave you."
1283
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:39,323
[somber music playing]
1284
01:08:39,406 --> 01:08:41,283
I've always said it from the beginning.
1285
01:08:42,618 --> 01:08:43,661
Arne's innocent.
1286
01:08:47,456 --> 01:08:49,083
He's been to hell and back.
1287
01:08:49,166 --> 01:08:51,168
[somber music continues]
1288
01:08:57,758 --> 01:08:59,510
[Alan] My mom was very upset about it.
1289
01:09:00,761 --> 01:09:03,764
She knew that he was
under demonic possession.
1290
01:09:05,307 --> 01:09:06,976
He was a non-violent person.
1291
01:09:07,476 --> 01:09:10,020
She felt horrible for Arne.
1292
01:09:11,063 --> 01:09:13,732
- [dial tone]
- My mom wanted the story told.
1293
01:09:15,401 --> 01:09:18,296
She wanted to tell the truth, and wanted
people to know what was going on.
1294
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,322
[audience applauding]
1295
01:09:21,407 --> 01:09:24,702
Seated next to me is a mother
of a once-possessed child,
1296
01:09:24,785 --> 01:09:26,745
and she's here to share with us her story.
1297
01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:28,873
- How do you do?
- [host] Nice to have you.
1298
01:09:28,956 --> 01:09:31,041
[audience applauding]
1299
01:09:31,125 --> 01:09:32,751
Tell me how David is today.
1300
01:09:33,252 --> 01:09:35,880
Well, he's not possessed anymore.
He's out of possession.
1301
01:09:35,963 --> 01:09:37,840
Right. Totally normal?
1302
01:09:37,923 --> 01:09:40,801
Totally normal, and, um... [inhales deeply]
1303
01:09:40,885 --> 01:09:42,636
Arne still has a lot of problems.
1304
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,223
Here's a young man who is now in prison.
1305
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:50,978
He is serving a ten-to 20-year sentence
for manslaughter
1306
01:09:51,478 --> 01:09:54,148
for something
he really is not responsible for.
1307
01:09:54,648 --> 01:09:59,695
After the trial,
my mother ended up going to... Hollywood.
1308
01:10:00,613 --> 01:10:02,990
[pensive music playing]
1309
01:10:06,285 --> 01:10:07,661
We all flew on a jet.
1310
01:10:09,622 --> 01:10:13,459
We got picked up in a limo
and go on to dinner with Dick Clark.
1311
01:10:13,542 --> 01:10:14,919
[music continues]
1312
01:10:17,379 --> 01:10:19,423
She was enjoying it. She was very excited,
1313
01:10:19,506 --> 01:10:22,760
and she couldn't believe
this was happening to her.
1314
01:10:24,595 --> 01:10:27,806
But Ed and Lorraine Warren had an agenda.
1315
01:10:29,642 --> 01:10:31,810
They said,
"You guys will be millionaires."
1316
01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:37,066
The Warrens told me
that they were gonna do a book.
1317
01:10:37,566 --> 01:10:39,443
They already had the author lined up,
1318
01:10:39,526 --> 01:10:42,071
which I guess
he did a previous book for them.
1319
01:10:43,697 --> 01:10:46,242
They brought Mr. Brittle up
to talk with us,
1320
01:10:47,201 --> 01:10:50,287
and they asked a... a bunch of questions.
1321
01:10:50,371 --> 01:10:51,705
Ed said, "Make it scary."
1322
01:10:51,789 --> 01:10:54,833
He goes, "But I checked with the people,
and they said this didn't happen."
1323
01:10:54,917 --> 01:10:58,504
Ed goes, "Make it scary.
People come to us. They buy scary."
1324
01:10:59,004 --> 01:11:01,131
Ed and Lorraine Warren took over.
1325
01:11:03,133 --> 01:11:06,387
Six months later,
the Warrens show up with paperwork,
1326
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:09,223
and my mom's like,
"Should we get a lawyer?"
1327
01:11:09,306 --> 01:11:11,433
And Lorraine's like, "No, dear."
1328
01:11:11,517 --> 01:11:14,061
"William Morris Agency
has a whole floor of lawyers."
1329
01:11:14,144 --> 01:11:17,273
Yes, they do.
But it's not for them. It's for youse.
1330
01:11:20,067 --> 01:11:22,111
{\an8}- [Lorraine] Hello.
- Hi, Lorraine? Judy.
1331
01:11:22,194 --> 01:11:23,737
{\an8}- Hi, Judy.
- [Judy] How you doing?
1332
01:11:23,821 --> 01:11:24,697
{\an8}[Lorraine] Good, dear.
1333
01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:26,907
{\an8}- [Judy] Did you find out anything yet?
- What, honey?
1334
01:11:26,991 --> 01:11:29,785
{\an8}- [Judy] About the book or anything?
- [Lorraine] Everything is great.
1335
01:11:29,868 --> 01:11:30,911
[Judy] Okay, good.
1336
01:11:30,995 --> 01:11:34,999
Because youse put so much work into this.
We went through all the tragedy.
1337
01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:37,501
And I'll tell you,
we need the money just like you do.
1338
01:11:39,795 --> 01:11:43,215
[Carl] My mother and father
received $4,500,
1339
01:11:44,341 --> 01:11:47,970
but Ed and Lorraine Warren
received $81,000 and some change.
1340
01:11:49,638 --> 01:11:52,224
They're still making money on it
with the Conjuring films.
1341
01:11:55,394 --> 01:11:57,771
[David] Lorraine told me
I was gonna be a rich little boy
1342
01:11:57,855 --> 01:11:59,440
from having this book deal.
1343
01:12:03,235 --> 01:12:04,820
And that was a lie.
1344
01:12:05,571 --> 01:12:07,656
[music fades]
1345
01:12:07,740 --> 01:12:10,242
The Warrens made a lot of money off of us.
1346
01:12:11,035 --> 01:12:14,163
If they can profit off you, they will.
1347
01:12:16,123 --> 01:12:17,833
They're not gonna pass up that deal.
1348
01:12:19,752 --> 01:12:20,952
[Carl] When my mother realized
1349
01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:23,964
that she was getting,
as she calls it, hoodwinked,
1350
01:12:25,424 --> 01:12:26,675
she lost faith in them.
1351
01:12:27,843 --> 01:12:29,178
They were good at what they did,
1352
01:12:29,261 --> 01:12:32,264
and they knew how to talk to people
and knew how to play people.
1353
01:12:32,348 --> 01:12:34,641
- [car engine starts]
- [gentle music playing]
1354
01:12:34,725 --> 01:12:36,352
They were very good con people.
1355
01:12:36,852 --> 01:12:38,520
[gentle music continues]
1356
01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:44,693
[Alan] My brother David felt guilty
over the whole ordeal.
1357
01:12:45,361 --> 01:12:50,199
[sighs] Heartbroken, actually,
'cause he knew that Arne was innocent.
1358
01:12:50,282 --> 01:12:52,284
[gentle music continues]
1359
01:12:54,787 --> 01:12:58,165
I could've never made it through this time
without Debbie's support.
1360
01:12:59,291 --> 01:13:00,793
The support gave me hope.
1361
01:13:02,086 --> 01:13:03,837
Then, in 1985,
1362
01:13:05,130 --> 01:13:07,925
we actually were married in the prison.
1363
01:13:09,051 --> 01:13:11,553
She looked real beautiful.
She was radiant.
1364
01:13:13,138 --> 01:13:16,100
I couldn't wait to hold her. It was great.
1365
01:13:16,183 --> 01:13:18,185
[pensive music playing]
1366
01:13:30,197 --> 01:13:34,243
This whole thing changed my life,
brought me more to religion.
1367
01:13:36,662 --> 01:13:37,871
I am not possessed.
1368
01:13:38,539 --> 01:13:40,124
I never had an exorcism,
1369
01:13:41,041 --> 01:13:44,503
but I'm not possessed,
and I know how to protect myself.
1370
01:13:45,003 --> 01:13:48,924
I know what prayers to say,
so I'm very much in control.
1371
01:13:49,466 --> 01:13:51,009
My faith keeps me strong.
1372
01:13:52,094 --> 01:13:55,347
So everything seems to be fine.
Life is moving forward.
1373
01:13:58,642 --> 01:14:02,521
I think this whole case
affected the entire family.
1374
01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:06,150
It scarred everybody.
1375
01:14:09,194 --> 01:14:14,950
It's twisted all of our lives upside down,
and it's difficult to talk about.
1376
01:14:15,033 --> 01:14:16,660
It's been over 40 years...
1377
01:14:17,244 --> 01:14:18,370
[inhales deeply]
1378
01:14:18,454 --> 01:14:21,790
...but it changed us
1379
01:14:23,167 --> 01:14:27,504
and has had long-lasting effects
on everyone in the family.
1380
01:14:30,841 --> 01:14:33,760
We're at the point
where we're basically all scattered.
1381
01:14:33,844 --> 01:14:36,305
You know, none of us really talk no more.
1382
01:14:36,388 --> 01:14:38,390
[pensive music continues]
1383
01:14:44,730 --> 01:14:46,148
[David] Seeing the pictures...
1384
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:53,822
they make me scared again and very sad,
because there's an 11-year-old boy
1385
01:14:53,906 --> 01:14:57,284
having a normal childhood
until this happened.
1386
01:15:00,078 --> 01:15:01,914
I gotta deal with it every day.
1387
01:15:07,127 --> 01:15:10,380
Well, this story,
you want to know who's telling the truth.
1388
01:15:12,216 --> 01:15:13,216
[sighs]
1389
01:15:16,261 --> 01:15:20,015
After my parents died, my wife
and I were going through their belongings.
1390
01:15:20,849 --> 01:15:24,102
My mother wrote down everything.
She had OCD.
1391
01:15:24,186 --> 01:15:26,188
[scribbling]
1392
01:15:26,939 --> 01:15:30,609
It'd be on a piece of paper, a calendar,
or whatever. She'd write notes down.
1393
01:15:35,072 --> 01:15:36,740
On this one note, it said,
1394
01:15:36,823 --> 01:15:39,743
"Well, the family had their medicine
tonight, and everything was good."
1395
01:15:40,244 --> 01:15:42,329
As we looked into things,
1396
01:15:43,497 --> 01:15:46,542
we realized there's more to this medicine.
1397
01:15:47,501 --> 01:15:49,503
[pensive music playing]
1398
01:15:50,879 --> 01:15:54,675
We found out
that she was putting Sominex in our food.
1399
01:15:56,426 --> 01:15:59,596
And she's been giving it
to the whole family for quite a long time.
1400
01:16:00,681 --> 01:16:03,058
[ad narrator] Some people
can fall asleep anyplace.
1401
01:16:03,141 --> 01:16:05,894
{\an8}But did simple tension
keep you awake last night?
1402
01:16:05,978 --> 01:16:10,566
Take Sominex tonight and sleep.
Sominex is absolutely not habit-forming.
1403
01:16:10,649 --> 01:16:16,154
{\an8}Just take two Sominex tablets as directed
for 100% safe sleep and wake up refreshed.
1404
01:16:16,238 --> 01:16:20,409
I remember my mother serving us dinner.
Her bowl was always separate from ours.
1405
01:16:20,492 --> 01:16:23,161
So if she had spaghetti,
everybody eats out of the bowl.
1406
01:16:23,245 --> 01:16:24,246
She'd have hers separate.
1407
01:16:24,329 --> 01:16:26,249
It's like, "Want more?"
She goes, "No, I'm good."
1408
01:16:28,792 --> 01:16:34,464
I believe my mother used Sominex
to control all us boys and my dad.
1409
01:16:36,592 --> 01:16:40,178
At the end of the day,
if everybody's tired and exhausted,
1410
01:16:40,762 --> 01:16:43,849
guess what? Everybody's gonna rest
and sit down. There's no more problems.
1411
01:16:46,518 --> 01:16:50,147
But Sominex
has long-lasting effects on people.
1412
01:16:50,856 --> 01:16:55,986
Mood swings, weight gain,
and hallucinations.
1413
01:16:56,486 --> 01:16:57,821
[demonic growl]
1414
01:16:57,904 --> 01:16:59,406
[Carl] It is very possible
1415
01:17:00,115 --> 01:17:04,536
that my brother David has ingested
enough of this stuff over the years,
1416
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:06,079
where he did see things.
1417
01:17:06,163 --> 01:17:07,443
[possessed David] I'll kill you.
1418
01:17:08,540 --> 01:17:10,542
Jesus is going to die in hell.
1419
01:17:11,084 --> 01:17:12,804
[Carl] Or at least he thought
he saw things.
1420
01:17:14,087 --> 01:17:16,423
[possessed David]
I'll murder you, you bastard.
1421
01:17:16,923 --> 01:17:20,594
[Carl] Between David, Arne,
my brother Alan...
1422
01:17:22,095 --> 01:17:24,640
They were all victims
at the end of the day.
1423
01:17:26,642 --> 01:17:28,268
[gentle music playing]
1424
01:17:28,352 --> 01:17:30,562
My... My mother would not drug the family.
1425
01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:35,359
My mom took good care of us.
1426
01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:40,072
The truth is, when I was 11 years old,
1427
01:17:41,198 --> 01:17:45,994
I was possessed by a demonic spirit,
I guess you can call it.
1428
01:17:47,454 --> 01:17:50,874
That's what the truth is.
I have no reason to lie about anything.
1429
01:17:50,957 --> 01:17:53,168
[gentle music continues]
1430
01:17:56,546 --> 01:17:59,341
I guess, like my dad,
I go buy a piece of junk and I fix it.
1431
01:18:00,133 --> 01:18:02,844
Just stay occupied. Just stay busy.
1432
01:18:04,638 --> 01:18:07,641
Because idle hands make the devil's work.
1433
01:18:11,895 --> 01:18:13,605
[possessed David laughs evilly]
1434
01:18:15,315 --> 01:18:17,818
{\an8}["Spirits on the Hill"
by Frank Chiafari playing]
1435
01:18:24,991 --> 01:18:30,205
♪ Lorraine walked in the attic
And I knew that she could tell ♪
1436
01:18:30,288 --> 01:18:35,335
♪ She said that something's joined us
Something straight from hell ♪
1437
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:42,134
♪ The men with dark faces
Wearing yellow ties ♪
1438
01:18:42,217 --> 01:18:47,305
♪ Are holding their necks
And questioning the skies ♪
1439
01:18:48,598 --> 01:18:53,520
♪ And, oh, not very far away
Amidst the foggy night ♪
1440
01:18:54,062 --> 01:18:59,109
♪ Ed walks near old tombstones
And a woman dressed in white ♪
1441
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:08,368
♪ To little boys and little girls
I hope you're listenin' still ♪
1442
01:19:08,452 --> 01:19:13,331
♪ Keep away from that house
And the spirits on the hill ♪
1443
01:19:15,041 --> 01:19:16,626
♪ And the spirits ♪
1444
01:19:17,586 --> 01:19:18,670
♪ On the hill ♪
1445
01:19:20,130 --> 01:19:21,715
♪ And the spirits ♪
1446
01:19:22,883 --> 01:19:23,967
♪ On the hill ♪
1447
01:19:25,761 --> 01:19:26,845
♪ Spirits ♪
1448
01:19:27,888 --> 01:19:29,139
♪ On the hill ♪
1449
01:20:01,505 --> 01:20:02,589
[faint scream]
1450
01:20:09,262 --> 01:20:10,347
[music fades]