[Elizabeth] Previously on "Toxic."
[woman] We've all seen "Bad Vegan."
We know the story, but after Anthony went to jail,
where did he go, and what did he do?
Listen up, you old [bleep]...
[man] Dearest Anthony, you stole from my family.
You're a dickhead and a liar.
He asked myself and Lindsey combined to give him $150,000.
-[doorbell rings] -[Elizabeth] We're doing a documentary
on Anthony Strangis.
[woman] Absolutely not, no.
He's a world-class con man.
My brother has ruined a lot of people's lives.
[Elizabeth] Allegedly, Anthony is leaving a string of victims
in his wake, and he's doing it in the sickest way possible,
by leveraging people's love and trust in him,
family and friends and otherwise,
and he needs to be exposed.
-That could be him. -[man on phone] ...dog in the car.
That definitely could be him.
[woman] Hi.
[Elizabeth Chambers] When it comes to love, betrayal is the death
of a thousand dreams...
[echoing female voice] Elizabeth! Over here!
...and the unraveling of countless lies.
You can spend years picking up the pieces, examining them,
rearranging them...
[instrumental version of "Toxic" by Britney Spears plays]
...digging through the past to make sense of it all.
Navigating through my personal heartbreak took me
back to my roots as an investigative journalist.
-Hi, I'm Elizabeth Chambers. -Elizabeth Chambers.
-Elizabeth Chambers, outside the Los Angeles police Department.
[Instrumental "Toxic" by Britney Spears continues playing]
[Elizabeth] It ignited a curiosity inside of me
about love that fractures.
-Oh my God. -[gunshot blasts]
-It inflicts lasting trauma... -[doorbell rings]
Hi, I wanted to see if I could ask you some questions.
-[woman] Absolutely not. -...and can lead to tragedy.
And that's when my world ended.
[Elizabeth] I feel that it's part of my calling to meet
with the victims, the survivors, to listen to their stories,
show how it can happen to anyone, and expose the truth.
[dramatic chord strikes]
I'm Elizabeth Chambers, and this is "Toxic."
[instrumental version of "Toxic" by Britney Spears concludes]
[Elizabeth] I've spent months following the path
of alleged victims Anthony Strangis has left in his wake.
He's stolen more than a million dollars and has ruined
so many lives without any indication of slowing down.
What if I told you that he served his time in prison,
he was completely reformed, and he's not conning
anyone anymore? What would you say?
I would find that very, very hard to believe.
This is his wiring, and it's destructive,
and he's not, you know, there's no reforming him.
-[Elizabeth] Mm-hmm. -It's just not possible.
And I'm almost positive that, like, without knowing anything
more, I could probably list out a bunch of things, and odds are
I'd be right.
Things that make us a good target, because I've just seen
this pattern, being smart is important, being compassionate,
being idealistic, being very trusting, you know, assuming
that people are good, being a bit of an introvert.
It's easier to manipulate somebody
who tends to spend a lot of time alone.
A tendency towards having a lot of compassion for animals,
and so it's very common to have a rescue dog, and it's like,
"Of course, of course she has a rescue dog."
[Elizabeth] I am on a mission to find alleged con man
Anthony Strangis in an effort to prevent him from destroying
even one more life.
My hunt for Anthony Strangis led us to Austin, Texas,
where an address popped up for Anthony and a woman,
potentially his new girlfriend, and where my team is
about to knock on what we believe is his door.
[doorbell rings]
[door creaks open]
[woman] Hi.
[door slams]
[mysterious piano music plays]
[Dan] She's coming back. She's coming back.
-[Katherine] Uh, bad news, boys. -[Dan] What is that?
A kid and a mother
answered the door. Um, she was like, "No,
there's no one here by that name."
"I thought they lived here. How long have you been here?"
"About a year." So...
[Elizabeth] Anthony not being at this address kind of
felt like an intentional red herring.
[Elizabeth] Katherine, is it possible that he would have
entered this address into the database just
to throw people off?
The fact that it hasn't been that easy and it normally is,
he has obviously eluded us. I want to know how he did it.
Obviously disappointing news, but we'll keep pushing on.
[Elizabeth] At this point, we knew it was going to be
a lot harder than we originally thought,
but we did have one new clue.
Anthony's potential girlfriend, who we'll refer to as Jane Doe,
attached to the same address in Austin and the car registered
to Anthony.
I just kind of want to go back to the drawing board and see
what else I can dig up.
[Elizabeth] Katherine continued digging and calling for help
from her network.
And she found another address shared
by Anthony and Jane Doe -- a PO box in Waco, Texas.
She also found a new vehicle for Jane Doe, which was also
linked to Anthony.
[Dan on the phone] She's driving a BMW [bleep]
-OK. -Showing a lot of activity
going back and forth from Florida,
which is Anthony's home state... -[Katherine] What's the city?
-[Dan on phone] Palm Coast. -[Katherine] Palm Coast.
[Elizabeth] ...and Texas, including...
[Dan on the phone] Her car was also in Texas -- Waco, Texas.
[Elizabeth]...one hit in Waco.
[Katherine] OK, thank you. Bye.
[Elizabeth] So the link between this woman and Anthony
was becoming stronger, but then the trail went cold.
For months, there were no new license plate pings, no new
addresses for Anthony or Jane Doe.
[clapboard clicking]
[Elizabeth] I continued on, diving into other stories to share.
[Producer] A and B cam marker interview, take two.
And my hunt for Anthony and my pursuit of accountability
for Sarma, McKaila, Eddie, became more and more distant.
-[clack] -[Elizabeth] Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you.
-[Harry] Nice to meet you. -Thank you so much for being here.
Sure.
[Elizabeth] Until I sat down with Harry Lidsky
for an entirely different story I was covering.
On a whim, I told Harry, a former investigator
for the DEA, CIA, and Department of Justice, about my search
for Anthony,
and he agreed to try to help.
[mysterious music plays]
-Hello, Harry. -Hey, how are you?
I am doing well.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you helping us
with this. -Happy to help.
[Elizabeth] All right, so what do you need for us to find him?
In terms of what you can provide, I can use everything.
Names he's used, aliases, date of birth,
girlfriends, relatives, last known address,
current address, if you have it.
-[Elizabeth] He's 6'3", big dude. -Big boy.
He claims to have a military background.
He tells people he's Special Forces.
We think he's probably in Texas or Florida.
[Harry] He's still active on social media, on Twitter?
-If he is, it's under-- -Or you think he's still active in scamming people?
-A hundred -- -Is he still looking for a new victim?
In the words of one of his victims, I said,
"If I told you that he is reformed after prison, and he's
"a completely different person who's living a life above board,
what would you say?" And she said, "I would tell
"you that you're absolutely [bleep] crazy,
and there's not a chance in hell."
So based on his track record, it's a good possibility.
I think he's just getting better.
I think he's getting better with each victim and I think
he's getting smarter.
He is a very, very intelligent person.
I mean, the thing is he got married, took the woman's
last name. He has so many aliases.
And if people haven't seen this documentary about him,
nobody has any reason to believe that he could be
a gambling addict that keeps stealing money from people.
Right.
[Elizabeth] That's why I want to find him, to prevent
anyone else from being victimized.
[Harry] This is helpful. I mean, it's a good start.
It's more than a lot of cases I've worked.
The fact that this guy has been so elusive, has managed
to avoid capture by other PIs, by you and your staff,
means that we might be looking in what we think is
the right place, and it's not the right place.
Between my street law enforcement, my intelligence
community service, and my white collar and fraud background,
I like to think I'm better situated than most.
I have had a decent history of finding people who prefer
not to be found.
So we just got to get in front of him.
-So this is the guy? -This is the guy.
-There he is. -December of 1980, there he is.
So the three names, Anthony P. Strangis,
Anthony P. Knight, Anthony Knight.
This Austin address is the last one that we have.
This is where we did our stakeout.
He 100% does not live there. It was a mom and her son.
They're not hiding anything.
See, the Ormond Beach, Florida, well, that was only
last year. -Mm-hmm.
Can you search that address and see who the homeowner is?
Yep. Any of those names?
-[Elizabeth] [bleep] Yes. -[Harry] Yeah.
-She's also got the PO box. -OK.
It's her vehicle that we're tracking.
That's her license plate number.
This is major.
This is who we think he's with.
[Harry] That's the best lead.
[Elizabeth] The database that Harry pulled up showed
several addresses between Anthony and this Jane Doe.
[Elizabeth] Yes.
[Elizabeth] But even more shocking, were the numbers that were listed
for her former employers.
These phone numbers that come back to defense contractors.
Lockheed Martin, Raytheon Company.
[Harry] If somebody provides their employment phone number
to, you know, whoever.
Whether sign up for an account, open a credit card, whatever it is,
that's how it ends up getting here.
The fact that she's got two different defense contractors
sort of screams she was in that kind of line of work.
So she could have a clearance.
And Anthony's always identified as military, always attracted
to people in the military, and always really gravitates
towards that profile. This is huge.
That's scary.
Is she a potential victim, or do we think she's
helping him? -Nobody helps Anthony.
[Harry] So he could be taking advantage of her right now.
-Anthony's incapable...correct. -And she might be working
in defense contracting. -Correct.
I wouldn't be surprised if she has no idea, and he will
have moved in with her. They'll be living together.
The employer that Harry found for Jane Doe was listed
in Arizona. I mean, he could be in Arizona.
[Harry] Yeah, there's definitely a connection there.
[Elizabeth] So I will go on socials.
I'm going to start doing this research.
I have her email address. I have her phone numbers.
I'm gonna get the license plate to you,
and then let's reconvene. This is very exciting.
It feels like there's hope. -All right, I like it.
-Game on? -Game on.
[Elizabeth] Everyone in Anthony's life is a potential victim.
Jane Doe, who we just found out works for U.S. defense
contractors, may have no idea who she's dealing with.
We have a huge new lead, but with that,
so many more questions.
How much does she know?
Has Anthony spun another web of lies?
If she is his newest victim, what does he want with her?
And what would he do to get it?
[suspenseful chord strike]
[Elizabeth] As my team looked deeper into Jane Doe and Anthony,
I received a court document that shed new light
on the psychological and sexual abuse allegations
raised by Sarma.
Overall, it was, you know, psychological and financial.
Later on, grotesquely, it was sexual.
So I got my hands on this memo, which was sent from Sarma's
original lawyer to the judge in 2016.
There are allegations in this document that paint
a picture that is far more troubling than anyone knows.
"Mr. Strangis began controlling all aspects of Sarma's personal
"and professional life, utilizing the time-tested
"control tools available to him as an experienced domestic
"abuser and con man.
"Mr. Strangis controlled all of her everyday activities,
"including access to her cellular phone, access
"to her social media, access to her family and friends,
"when and where she was to travel, and demanding
"that he be given access to all of her passwords, including
"those for the business banking relationships.
Sarma was often without any means of communication."
If this is true, she was essentially a prisoner.
Not only does this memo go into detail about the ways
that he controlled her, it also goes into some pretty dark stuff
and includes some text messages between the two.
"Most importantly and tragically, he also
"used violence.
"Mr. Strangis repeatedly raped Sarma, forcing her to commit
"sexual acts against her will.
"In G-chat messages, the following exchange occurred
between Sarma and Mr. Strangis."
Sarma -- "You don't [bleep] humiliate and rape
someone you love."
Strangis -- "You are the best wife ever."
Sarma -- "You are the greatest raping, torturing, [bleep] up,
"manipulating, lying, quote-unquote-husband, ever.
I heart you."
So, we didn't see any of this in "Bad Vegan."
They didn't touch on this, and this is not direct proof,
but she's calling him a rapist, and he's not refuting it.
He's not responding, he's not saying, "I didn't rape you,
what are you talking about?"
It's heartbreaking, this is heartbreaking.
I don't know why these sexual abuse charges were not
brought against Anthony.
This has moved beyond the finances.
Sarma is repeatedly calling him a rapist in writing.
Knowing what I went through and the dark, dark,
destructive nightmare of it is painful but I know he's not
gonna feel remorse, I know he's not gonna suffer in any way
that we might suffer, because we all you know most of us have
a conscience, so it's like there's no point in like,
harboring resentment against him.
It's almost like being angry at like a spider
that bit you, you know?
It's like he's the spider.
-[Elizabeth] Mm-hmm. -You just want him, you know,
neutralized so he's not gonna bite somebody else.
[Elizabeth] Strangis, through his court-appointed attorney,
denied all allegations, but did not elaborate
on his denials in responding to 80 questions from Vanity Fair.
[suspenseful chord strike]
So this is where the stakes that were high before become
urgent, the fact that, yes, he's a con man.
Yes, he did his time for conning people out of money.
Fine, but now we're talking about a man who is presumably
walking the streets a free man, who allegedly has
the capability, the history, of raping his victim.
I knew at this point I wasn't just searching
for Anthony Strangis.
It's very possible that Anthony has his new girlfriend caught
in a con like he did with Sarma just a decade ago.
Only now, it seemed possible that she could be at more risk
than we ever knew.
And if she was, I had to let her know.
So my team and I start searching for this Jane Doe.
And the very next day, we find a profile that looks
like a perfect match.
Holy [bleep].
This is [bleep]. This is [bleep].
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
That's the same dog from the pictures.
[producer] Right, right, right, right.
[Elizabeth] She [indistinct] Republican.
So Harry put us on the path.
Now we're taking all the information Harry just
gave us and running with it.
[Elizabeth] Her Facebook.
This is [bleep] -- this is like, the girl
that we believe Anthony's with.
In the picture, she's holding a dog.
That's important because the last time Anthony spoke
to McKaila, he sent a picture of that dog.
This [bleep] dog.
So we know that this dog belongs to [bleep],
who basically looks like a brunette Sarma.
We know that Anthony can't be alone.
We know he's not living alone.
We know he's not in jail, and we don't think he's dead.
But, we also know his pattern.
He goes from woman, to woman, to woman.
So our goal has been to find the woman he's currently with,
because he's been very quiet. No one's spoken to him.
McKaila hasn't spoken to him. His mom hasn't heard from him.
We have found [bleep], and where there's a [bleep],
we believe there's an Anthony.
My pursuit of con man Anthony Strangis had new life.
And while Anthony is notoriously impossible to track
down, the woman we believed is his new girlfriend
and potential new victim, was not.
This woman ticked all the boxes --
outspoken Republican,
dogs that matched the photos that Anthony sent McKaila,
and we confirmed that she worked
for a U.S. defense contractor in [bleep] Arizona.
I asked both Katherine and Harry to pursue
this new lead, and we hit the mother lode.
Not only were they able to locate an address in Arizona
for both Anthony and Jane Doe, they were also able to place
the BMW at that same location just a few weeks prior.
With this new lead, it felt like there was a really good
chance that I was actually going to be able to find
Anthony and Jane Doe.
But I knew I had to act fast.
Harry agreed to join me and met me in Arizona, where he'd
already spent a few days investigating
and had some new intel.
[Elizabeth] You've had a bit of a head start.
[Harry] I have, it's been a productive couple of days.
OK, good, good. I want to hear everything.
OK, so the vehicle, which was sort of our best lead,
[Elizabeth] Mm-hmm.
-I don't think is in play any longer. -OK.
The reason I say that is because the last time
it was seen was late March into early April,
and the very last place it was seen for a week, it was
in an industrial area down by the airport.
I went down there, put eyes on, and it's like an impound lot.
-Hm, like a normal towing lot? -It looks like a towing company.
-Did you see the vehicle there? -I didn't.
I've been by the apartment.
I sat there for three and a half hours around, you know,
come home time, between 4:00 and 7:30, and it never showed up.
Could be they were out late that night.
So I went by the next morning at 5:30 AM.
It wasn't there.
Every time I've been back since at varying times
during the day, nothing.
Are we sure this is the address?
I have PTSD from our last situation where we were
at this apartment complex for two days and no sign
of him, no trace.
Um, so yesterday, I went by, and they have an intercom
system out because it's a gated community, and it has
the ability to scroll through a directory listing, -Yeah.
and his current alias, Anthony Knight, was listed
in the directory.
[camera shutter snapping]
That's huge. That's huge.
So his current alias, Anthony Knight, was listed
in the directory.
-[camera shutter snapping] -[Elizabeth] That's huge.
Yeah, so the apartment complex might be our best play
at this point, but her name, interestingly, was not
on the directory. -[bleep] wasn't listed at all?
-She's not listed at all. -Weird.
-That's weird. -That is really weird.
The primary address for her is a UPS store PO box
about a mile from the apartment.
Weird that she'd have a PO box
when she has an apartment here.
In Waco, she had a UPS store associated with her, too.
And then looking back at her history,
before that, in Florida, she never did,
or none that I could see. -Not until she met Anthony.
Right.
Post-Anthony, it seems that she transitioned to...
the style of a PO box.
Well, this is very good. That is very promising.
I think that we are already several steps closer just
by seeing his name on the call box.
So I think we need a game plan.
I mean, there's a number of "ruse" approaches we can do.
We could use the UPS store, the PO box,
we could drop a package off.
And that's also a way to get some intel, potentially, right?
So if we walk in and say, hey, listen, I don't know
the exact box, you know, they might say,
like, oh, they packed up and left, right? -Mmm.
So it might be a quick way to figure out what we're
dealing with. -[Elizabeth] Here's what I think we do.
I think we do the PO box delivery,
and try to get in touch with Jane Doe,
and warn her about Anthony.
-I think we need to go to the impound lot. -Right.
He doesn't want anyone finding him.
-He doesn't want anyone calling him out. -Yeah.
And yet, here we are doing just that, and you never know
what's gonna happen.
So I'm just like, what advice do you have for me in terms
of doing this?
You know, if I see anything that's concerning,
you know, that I think it's starting to go south,
I will make it clear -- "Thank you for your time."
Let's, you know, let's get out of here.
You never know what a caged animal's gonna do.
[Elizabeth] We have one chance to get this right.
I think we should just pop by the impound lot and see
if we can get inside, and then speak to someone
and show them a photo of the car.
Well, it's certainly worth a second look.
I absolutely agree, and maybe, who knows,
we get some kind of intel that's helpful.
The car was there for two weeks.
The car was there for a long time.
They have to know the story, and they have to know
from where it was towed.
They certainly do, whether or not they'll share
that with us, right? -[Elizabeth] Right.
[Harry] So this is going to be it, right...
Right here. Yeah, this is the lot.
[Harry] OK, so this is the lot where the car was last seen.
[Elizabeth] It was here for how long?
[Harry] It was here for about a week.
And based on the pictures, I think it was parked
over there. Yeah, but I don't see it.
There's a Cadillac.
I mean, the color's kind of easy to spot.
[Elizabeth] Let's see if we can find a person who can answer
some questions. -Yeah, let's do it.
-I'm Elizabeth. -[man] Hi, nice to meet you.
-[man] How are you? -[Elizabeth] Nice to meet you.
I need to know the history of one vehicle that was here.
Could you ask your boss, and we can give you any
information you need? -Yeah.
[Elizabeth] The impound lot wouldn't let us bring
the cameras in, but they allowed us to keep recording audio while
we asked them a few questions.
[woman] I have not received anything from the lender
to allow you guys to have that information.
[Harry] Was it a repo?
[woman] I cannot release any information.
-[Elizabeth] OK. -[Harry] It was a repo.
-[Elizabeth] It was a repo.
[Elizabeth] They obviously can't share a lot of information,
but essentially, when we asked about the specific car,
she promptly said we are not able to disclose information
from the lender.
And being the professional that he is, Harry said,
"Oh, so it was a repo."
And we got a little slight nod, so--
[Harry] And that makes sense,
and that explains the two weeks, why nobody would come.
You know, if you park badly, your car's gone, you need
to get to work, you come down the next day.
Two weeks, it'll take that long for the bank to make
arrangements to dispose of it, sell it, report the title back
into their name, things like that.
So that tracks perfectly with the time it was here.
And now the story becomes, OK, you know, it gets repoed
for a reason.
[Elizabeth] The car being repossessed weeks ago
and never being reclaimed signaled some serious trouble.
And knowing Anthony, he doesn't want to be anywhere
near trouble.
I started to wonder if he and Jane Doe were still
even in Arizona.
But Harry and I decided to go forward with our next strategy.
If they were still here, they'd have to
pick up their mail.
So we decided to go to the UPS store where their PO box was
located, and drop a package off that they'd have to pick up.
-There it is. -[Harry] There it is.
[Elizabeth] I think the most important thing is reaching out
to her, you know?
I think we have to address it to [bleep].
I don't think she knows who she's living with.
She needs to know what she's dealing with here.
And I don't think it needs to be involved.
It's just, what do you think? "Call me?"
Yeah, simple.
[Elizabeth] Dear...[bleep],
please call me. OK, so we have our box.
We're going to leave this for them.
They will hopefully send her an email or a text saying
you have a package that has been delivered,
and it's ready for pickup,
and we are going to wait outside.
I'm going in.
[suspenseful chord strike]
[Elizabeth] Hello, how are you?
They called them the [bleep]. He said it's for the [bleep].
They come in often.
They left a message for her asking if it was OK
if I leave it.
And he's gonna call me if for some reason she says no.
[suspenseful chord strike]
[phone buzzing]
[Elizabeth] I have a call.
Hello?
[Jane Doe on phone] My name is [bleep]...
-[buzzing] -[Elizabeth] I have a call.
Hello?
It was Jane Doe.
Yes, my name's Elizabeth.
I actually wanted to connect with you.
So we're actually doing a documentary.
Have you ever heard the name Anthony Knight
or Anthony Strangis?
We were under the impression that he might, that he might be
your boyfriend or that you had lived together at one point.
I would just recommend strongly that you look into his past.
-We got to go to the apartment. -[Harry] Yeah.
She's going to call him right now.
[Harry] Right now, she's gonna call him.
Yeah, we got to go.
It's the same reaction we had for Mrs. Johnson when we went
to the front door.
It's like, nope, I don't know what you're talking about.
[Harry] I do believe she knows him.
She may not know the whole truth.
She may just be protective. We're not done yet.
[Elizabeth] If she is a victim, that can be really hard
to admit, but whether she's under his control or not,
I assumed her first move would be to call him.
[Harry] This is where the license plate hits
came from.
The apartment's sort of on the backside.
[Elizabeth] So we rushed over to the apartment complex...
[Harry] So you might want to just pull straight in here.
-Right here? -[Harry] Yeah.
[Elizabeth]...and parked where we couldn't be seen.
[Harry] In theory, this is where he's gonna come out.
[Elizabeth] But where Anthony would have to walk by
if he wanted to leave his apartment.
[Harry] Now we just got to wait and see if he pops out.
[Elizabeth] I fully expected Anthony to flee.
My heart was pounding, my hands were shaking,
but nothing happened.
[Harry] We don't even know if they still live here.
Do you have a feeling that he's not here?
[Elizabeth] I didn't know if we'd missed him or if he was
even there at all.
I couldn't wait anymore to get answers,
so I decided to get them myself.
So I'm gonna write this note similar to the one that we put
in the box. It just says, "To [bleep],
Please call me, it's very important,"
sign my name and phone number.
Point is just to ascertain whether or not they in fact
do live here together.
[car door slams]
-[Harry] How'd it go? -100% confirmed.
She didn't confirm the photo, but she knew [bleep],
and I said, "Why don't you just confirm that her partner
or boyfriend is Anthony or not?"
And she's like, "I cannot confirm that, but I can
tell them to come get it." So she confirmed it.
[Harry] Which confirms the lie.
[Elizabeth] I now know for some reason
that Jane Doe was withholding
the truth about knowing Anthony,
But I also knew that nobody was coming or going
from the apartment.
So I decided to take a bit of a more aggressive approach.
OK, we're getting ready to exit the vehicle and head in.
Elizabeth's gonna go and do the door knock.
so just everyone heads up and be ready.
[man over radio] Copy.
[Harry] What could go wrong?
[two car doors slam]
[Harry] Out of the vehicle and making our way
to the target apartment.
[knocking on door]
[dog barking]
[knocking on door]
[Elizabeth sighs]
The adrenaline is crazy.
So, they are definitely in the house.
-[producer] They're inside? -They're inside.
We can hear them inside. We knocked once.
The dogs started barking, and then we knocked again,
the dogs did not bark at all.
[Elizabeth] The dogs were very clearly hushed
inside of the apartment, which gave it away.
When I knocked a second time,
I knew somebody was in there and that eventually
they would have to come out.
[Harry] Hey, guys, we've just repositioned to get an eyeball
on the door. We think somebody's inside.
So we're just gonna sit here for a bit and see
if they come out. -[man on radio] Copy that.
[Elizabeth] We repositioned right outside the apartment door and kept
our eyes glued on the door for hours.
When the sun went down, not a single light came on
inside the house, as if the person inside, if there was
somebody inside, was clearly hiding from us.
[Elizabeth] Stay till 9, do one more door-knock, see if the dogs are there?
[Harry] Yeah, the fact that the dog stopped barking
makes me think somebody's in there.
I think he's in there.
[Elizabeth] I mean, at some point, the dogs need
to go out.
[Harry] Yeah, it's just weird. Something's going on.
Like, and we haven't seen her come home.
[Elizabeth] Mnh-mnh.
It's really interesting, the neighbor across the way,
knows him, IDed him, but said she hasn't seen him
for a month,
which is exactly the same time that the BMW disappeared.
[Harry] Right. Yeah, that timing is...
interesting.
It disappeared, got impounded, disappeared, and so did he.
[mysterious music plays]
[Elizabeth] It was now pushing midnight.
We had been surveilling the apartment
for over six hours,
and there was still not a sign of life.
[Harry] I mean, who knows what they do?
Maybe they're at the casino.
Maybe they...there's dogs, there's no dog walker.
[Elizabeth] After an 18-hour day, we decided to call it.
We cut the audio. We put down the cameras.
And then...
-[Elizabeth, muffled] He hasn't gotten in a car yet. -[car door slams]
He was over there. He was over there.
[suspenseful drum beat picks up]
[suspenseful chord windup]
[Elizabeth] Anthony.
[Elizabeth, quietly] He was over there. He was over there.
[suspenseful music plays]
[music slows to a stop]
[Harry] There.
[Elizabeth] Anthony.
Anthony, hi. How are you?
-This is private property. -I understand that.
-I just wanted to-- -You must have came in here unlawfully.
No, we didn't come in here unlawfully.
This is private property. That's private, that's a part of our property.
-I understand that. -It's a gated community.
Anthony, I've been speaking to McKaila.
I've spoken to Glenn.
I've been speaking to so many people who you've hurt.
-Yeah -- no comment. -[Elizabeth] You don't care? That's what--
I don't care who you're talking to, I have no comment.
[Elizabeth] Do you have any remorse?
[Anthony] [indistinct] this shit from 10 years ago.
[Elizabeth] Do you have remorse for hurting people?
Come back here again, I'm calling the cops.
OK, this is private property.
I don't give you consent to record my voice or my audio
or my video, but this is private property.
All right, no Arizona property law.
You had to have followed someone in because you didn't
ring the gate to get let in. You're here unlawfully.
You come back, I'm calling the cops.
No comment, leave me alone.
[Elizabeth] What do you say to your family?
What do you say to the people you've hurt?
What do you say about the fact that so many people
are suffering because of what you did to them?
Come back, I'm calling the cops.
[door creaks closed]
[Harry, whispering] Let's go.
[Elizabeth sighs]
We gotta go. We gotta go.
He's pissed.
[Harry] Good eye seeing the door, Jen.
[Harry sighs]
[Elizabeth] For six months, I tracked Anthony.
And for a long time, I thought I would never have
the opportunity to meet him face-to-face.
And then I blinked, and I had confronted one of the most
infamous con men in America. It was such a surreal feeling.
I don't care who you're talking to, I have no comment.
[Elizabeth] Did I say too much? Did I not say enough?
I got to feel Anthony's manipulation firsthand,
where he tried to turn it back on us as if we had done
something wrong.
As we left the apartment, I was exhausted.
Our camera batteries were completely dead.
-[Elizabeth] Pure, pitch black. -[Harry] Yep.
But I couldn't sleep that night.
I had a lot of catching up to do in the morning.
[phone ringing]
[Sarma, on phone] Hello?
Sarma, I wanted to let you know that we found him.
We found him through the woman he's been with for the past
year, and went to his home.
[Sarma] My first thought is concern for whoever he's with.
-Yeah. -[Sarma] What's her deal?
He's just living with her, and that's all we know?
She flat out denied to me, knowing him, knowing anything about him.
I had a conversation with her over the phone,
and she says, "I have nothing to do with him.
I don't know this person." -[Sarma] That's weird.
I mean, on paper, she seems like a very normal,
put-together person.
Nothing nefarious in her past, no criminal history,
but we also know that that's kind of his type.
[Sarma] Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, same with me.
I think odds are obviously extraordinarily high that she's
in a bad situation, but either doesn't realize it
or is afraid of him.
It is interesting, too, Sarma.
He was visibly agitated, and I could tell he was
breathing deeply and about to lose it.
[Sarma] Yeah, that brings back all these memories, like,
when he would breathe heavy out of his nose, reminded me
of, like, a bull, you know? -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
[Sarma] And then, did he just end up going back in his house
and slamming the door? -He did.
He threatened to call the police, which I'm like,
please, call the police on yourself.
[Sarma] Yeah, that's amazing.
[Elizabeth] He responded exactly in the way we anticipated him responding,
both verbally and physically.
He was extremely visibly agitated, angry.
I mean, he was emotional.
He got, like, he was breathing really heavily.
His posture changed.
I-I think that's even part of the con.
You think?
[Allen] I mean, I don't know how long ago you found him,
but he's probably right now trying to figure out,
is the heat really on?
Do I need to skip town and start again?
The disappointment that you're seeing in him may be that
he hasn't run the full grift yet, just like in, um,
Orange County.
You know, he didn't finish that one.
[Elizabeth] I have done what I set out to do.
I found Anthony Strangis, and I confronted him.
But did I do enough to warn and protect another
possible victim?
The fact that I still hadn't figured out Jane Doe's place
in all of this haunted me.
Why didn't she tell me the truth about knowing him?
If she is his latest victim, are his claws in her that deep?
Was it shame and embarrassment over being tricked?
I had so many questions.
Would Sarma have reacted that way had I called her
back then?
I tried calling Jane Doe again, hoping to get through to her.
-[phone ringing] -[automated voice] The person you're trying to reach
is not available. At the tone,
please record your message.
Hi, [bleep] this is Elizabeth Chambers again.
I genuinely just want to make sure that you are OK.
I want to make sure your dogs are OK.
I want to give you a space to talk.
It can be on the record, it can be off the record, whatever.
So if you would, please give me a call back.
I look forward to hearing from you, and I will hopefully
speak with you soon. Bye.
I never heard back from Jane Doe after that call.
She disabled her LinkedIn and scrubbed her social media.
My hope is that if Anthony is still conning and if she is
his latest victim, then this intervention caused her
to look deeper, to question who Anthony really is.
McKaila, I said words to Anthony on your behalf,
but what would you say to him directly?
I would say, "Anth,
I love you, and I miss you,"
but at this point, until he actively
has changed his life,
and got in rehab and in therapy, and no
longer gambling at all, I wouldn't ever associate myself
with him again.
But if I was saying anything to anyone else, I would
be saying to never involve yourself with him.
And I think it's important to take that me saying
I miss him doesn't mean that he's a good person.
He's just my brother.
As I reflect on the months spent following the trail
of alleged victims Anthony left in his wake, I'm grateful to all
the people who spoke with me and shared the impact Anthony
had on their life.
But with each new story I learned, it was Sarma
who weighed heaviest on my mind.
Everyone else, McKaila, Eddie, Glenn,
the Johnsons, were all left rebuilding a piece
of their life Anthony damaged.
Sarma didn't just lose a piece of her life.
She lost almost everything to Anthony's
manipulation and coercion,
and she's still, to this day, reclaiming
what he took from her.
I hope now we have set the record straight
about Anthony Strangis and his alleged cons.
I'm just proud of you.
Honestly, I'm really proud of you.
We've all been through [bleep], but you've been through some
deep, deep, deep [bleep], and especially doing it alone.
Like, I feel like I'm doing that in my own way, but I think
a lot of people look up to you, and I really hope
this story inspires.