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Nine-one-one,
what's your emergency?

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There's a burglar
in this building!

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Someone threw a kid from up there!
Oh my God!

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Threw a kid?
From what height?

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From the sixth floor.
They've thrown a kid!

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There's a burglar in the building!
Oh my God!

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Good Lord!

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Oh my God!

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Please, dear!

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I'm just filling out…

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Can you hear me?

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I can hear you.
Help is on the way.

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The girl was found on the lawn.

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The safety net
on the window of Isabella's room

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was cut with a knife and scissors.

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All we could think of was,

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"Oh my God, no!
That's the love of our lives."

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"They've thrown the love of our lives
through a window."

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Awaiting in expectation to hear Alexandre
and Anna Carolina's statements.

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They were at the apartment.

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The police are certain of that.

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People saw their own loved ones
in that victim.

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JUSTICE BE DONE

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I had never seen a case
that moved public opinion this much.

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They made a spectacle out of it.

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What the fuck?

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The jurors are led to believe
the prosecution knows everything.

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But that's not true in Isabella's case.
We don't know everything.

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It was atypical, a situation
the police hadn't encountered before.

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The mom left the girl there alive.

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When she went to pick her up,
she was dead.

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They fabricated a version of the facts
to calm society.

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Criminal materiality!

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Who killed Isabella?

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The perfect crime doesn't exist
even if it's premeditated.

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The lies started coming out.

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Excuse us!

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Our legal system wasn't ready
for a case with such importance.

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Then,
the police started to investigate.

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The news started to come out,
and it was one surprise after another,

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one shocking fact after another.

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A LIFE TOO SHORT:
THE ISABELLA NARDONI CASE

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Look at this. So beautiful.

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So many photos of you.

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-Look, Gi. The two of you.
-June festival.

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I'm Isabella's cousin.
Four months older than she was.

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ISABELLA'S COUSIN

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There we go.

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We were inseparable.

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Our parents had us
when they were very young,

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so we basically had each other.

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I think I was much calmer than her.

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She had a stronger personality.

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She was more…

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Agitated.

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She was more agitated, exactly.

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I was more laid back, I was calmer.

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She fought for what she wanted,
so to speak.

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You used to be…

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Yeah, I had an easier time
taking things as they are.

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I took a "no" better than her.

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I was 17 when I got pregnant.
I was still in school.

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And it scared us.

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-But my brother…
-My dad.

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…her father,
conceived a few months earlier.

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I was so happy
to have a granddaughter.

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Or a grandson. I didn't know.

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Then we heard about Carolina.

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That was different
because Carolina was 17.

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ISABELLA'S FATHER

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We got divorced
when she was 11 months old.

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During the four years since then,
we had our ups and downs.

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In the beginning,

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our relationship was like
a typical relationship

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between divorced parents.

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We got along, but that got harder
after he met Jatobá.

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ISABELLA'S STEPMOTHER

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We wouldn't talk much then.

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But I could notice that she would act
in a more mature manner

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after she had her own kids.

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Isabella loved her siblings.

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She really liked hanging out with them.
She liked being around them.

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For a mom who lets her kid spend
the weekend at her dad's,

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it's comforting to know that they enjoyed
spending time with their siblings.

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I wanted her to be a part of that.

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They were a part of her life,
so she had to experience that.

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My last memory of her…

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On that Friday, she went to her dad's.

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MARCH 29TH, 2008
NORTH OF SÃO PAULO

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When the accident happened,

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my day had been pretty regular.

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It was a Saturday.
I was hanging out with my friends.

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We were at a barbecue,
and my phone rang.

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"Mom, Isa was in an accident."

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"What do you mean?"
"She fell off the building."

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"Where?" "At Alexandre's."

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"She fell, she fell."

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It was so quiet that night.

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You could hear the dew
falling from the sky.

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Then we started to hear a ruckus
in the apartment next door.

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When we went to bed,
we heard a couple fighting.

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It was a quick fight,
about 15 to 20 minutes.

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Then the silence was restored.

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Right after that,
we heard a person on the ground floor.

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Yelling, "They tossed Isabella!
Help! They tossed Isabella!"

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I said, "Let's go downstairs
and see if we can help."

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I went towards Isabella.
She was lying there on the grass.

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There was a glass door close by.
It was dark.

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When I crouched to see if she had a pulse,

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Alexandre Nardoni came out
through the glass door.

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He said, "There's someone in my apartment.
He threw her out of the window."

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He said that someone in his apartment
had thrown the kid through the window.

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And he said that this person
was wearing a black shirt.

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The doorman was wearing black.

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We changed out
of our pajamas and left.

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It seemed like an eternity to get there.

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Five minutes felt like five hours.

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We were praying on our way there

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because we couldn't even imagine
what happened.

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We had no idea what had happened.

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When we got there,
there were lots of police officers.

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My husband tried to go in by car,
but the police didn't let us.

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So I got out of the car
and ran down the street.

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I remember I got out of the car
while it was still moving.

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I opened the door and ran in.

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When I got there, she was on the ground.

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She was breathing very slowly.

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I wasn't even worried
about questioning what happened,

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why it happened, or how it happened.

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All I wanted was for her to get help
as soon as possible.

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So, I didn't leave her side,
not even for a second.

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I was comforted back then
because she was still breathing.

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Alexandre Alves, 29 years old,

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arrived home with Isabella,
his current wife,

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his three-year-old daughter,
and an 11-month-old baby.

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They went in through this garage gate.

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It was cold that night.

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Right after he parked,
according to other sources,

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he took the six-year-old to the apartment
that's on the sixth floor of the building.

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The building is very safe.

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Every balcony has safety nets,
as you can see.

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It's a brand-new building,

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but a few minutes after that,
according to other sources,

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he came downstairs
to pick up the other children,

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and the girl was found right here,
on the lawn.

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I remember
I tried to get in the ambulance.

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I tried to stay by her side,
but they didn't let me go in the back.

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I went in the front.

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I remember being inside the ambulance

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and leaving the scene.

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So when we got to the hospital,

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as far as we knew,
it was just an accident.

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So I was there,
I was hugging my daughter,

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and then the doctor came to talk to us.

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It wasn't long before
they showed up to talk to us,

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to tell us that she hadn't made it

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and that we could go into the bedroom.

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Unfortunately, it was very brief.

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Very brief.

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We all fell apart.

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Carolina actually fell to the ground,
sliding on the walls towards the ground.

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So I went to my daughter, and I held her.

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She looked at me and said,
"Mom, why did this happen to me?"

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I had no words.

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What would I even say to my daughter?
She'd just lost her daughter.

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After a while, I could only say,

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"Sweetie, we need to let her go
so she can move on."

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When I finally realized
she hadn't made it,

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the only thing I could whisper
into her ear was,

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"You can go."

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"Go in peace."

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"I'll take care
of everything on this end."

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Those were my last words to her.

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Then, the police started to investigate.

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The news started to come out,

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and it was one surprise after another,
one shocking fact after another.

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POLICE

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SÃO PAULO PD
9TH PRECINCT

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We're here at 9th Precinct Station

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in the north of São Paulo,
and there's been a lot of movement.

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Lots of reporters here
throughout the afternoon and the evening

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waiting in expectation to hear Alexandre
and Carolina's statements.

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I was on call when we received the news

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that a child had fallen from
their parents' apartment's window.

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That's the first piece
of information we'd gotten.

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JOURNALIST AND WRITER

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At first, everyone was unsure
if it had been a crime,

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a homicide, something of the sort,

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or if it had been an accidental fall.

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Back then, there was so much news
of children who, when left alone,

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had fatally fallen from windows.

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ANOTHER CHILD FALLS OFF A WINDOW

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CHILD FALLS OFF A WINDOW
AND SUFFERS HEAD TRAUMA

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CHILD FALLS OFF A WINDOW
OF A BUILDING IN PERDIZES

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They asked me to go
to the 9th Precinct Station,

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and I got information during
a collective interview

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with Officer Calixto Calil Filho.

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There was a suspicion,
including the family, of a homicide.

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A five-year-old child
around 11:30 p.m. last night

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was thrown
from the sixth floor of a building.

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It wasn't an accident.

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Somebody cut the window's safety net
and threw her from there.

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It's impossible for a five-year-old

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to cut the net
and throw herself at that time of night.

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According to the dad,

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she was sleeping
when she got to the apartment.

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She was already sleepy.
She had already slept on the father's lap.

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So, there's a possibility of homicide,

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because someone cut the safety net
and threw her out the window.

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Really, at that point,
I thought it had been an accident,

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whatever it was that happened.

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But then they told us
we had to go to the police station.

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What was I supposed to do
at the police station?

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What do you mean, the police station?
Come on!

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So we still have to go through all this?
It was an accident.

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9TH PRECINCT

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I was on call
that Saturday night.

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My shift had started at eight p.m.,
and right after that, at 12 a.m.,

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a state police officer
told me about the case.

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At first, he said,
"There was a burglar in a building,

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and during his break-in,
a child was thrown from the sixth floor."

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The police request a deposition
from the father and the stepmother.

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The police asked them
if they'd ever received any threats,

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if they had enemies,

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if someone wanted
to hurt them or the child.

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They talked so much
about the doorman,

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so I started looking into his entire life,

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researching his background,
finding out who he was.

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Especially because of how suspicious
the couple was towards him.

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I called one of the members
of the board of residents immediately.

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He was one of
the building's first residents.

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I told him a girl had fallen.

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At first,
I thought she had fallen off a balcony.

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I didn't know back then.

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I told him to call an ambulance
and the police.

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What he did is exactly
what anyone else would've done

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in that situation.

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He called the building manager,

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and the building manager went there
and confirmed it was true.

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When I got to the scene,
it was very crowded.

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There were a lot of civilians,
state police officers.

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So I assessed the apartment.

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Right off the bat,
I noticed there were no signs of break-in.

246
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Then I walked into the living room,
and I noticed some drops of blood.

247
00:16:43,711 --> 00:16:46,046
So I had already found my first answer.

248
00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:48,007
Something had happened in the apartment

249
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before the victim
had been thrown out the window.

250
00:16:51,260 --> 00:16:53,387
It was clear something had happened.

251
00:16:54,763 --> 00:16:58,308
And, at that point, I couldn't be sure
the blood was Isabella's.

252
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I hadn't even seen her body,

253
00:16:59,977 --> 00:17:03,814
so I still didn't know
who bled in the apartment and why.

254
00:17:06,316 --> 00:17:09,194
Our job is to assess
the scene more carefully,

255
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to look for other blood spills,

256
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or any other residues
compatible to our forensic assessment.

257
00:17:16,827 --> 00:17:18,203
Even after a few days?

258
00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:19,788
The house was messy,

259
00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:21,623
but it wasn't anything
out of the ordinary.

260
00:17:21,707 --> 00:17:23,876
The people who lived there
were just messy.

261
00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:25,794
Nothing was broken.

262
00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:28,213
It's not like everything
was out of its place

263
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like we typically see
in cases of homicide.

264
00:17:30,632 --> 00:17:33,677
It wasn't like a typical homicide
or break-in mess.

265
00:17:34,928 --> 00:17:36,805
It was a regular mess.

266
00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:47,399
That evidence pointed to the fact
that it wasn't a burglar who did this.

267
00:17:47,483 --> 00:17:50,069
It wasn't a break-in, it was a homicide.

268
00:17:51,528 --> 00:17:55,032
There was blood on the scene,
and there was no evidence of burglary.

269
00:17:55,115 --> 00:17:57,242
The place wasn't turned upside down.

270
00:17:58,368 --> 00:18:00,204
Also, there was no evidence of a fight,

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of someone trying to escape,
or even of a fight between the couple.

272
00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:18,305
We were informed
he is the child's father.

273
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He's giving a statement,

274
00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:22,226
ISABELLA'S FATHER

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and here's an exclusive look at it.

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As they were making
their statement, I would ask them,

277
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"Is that possible? Why would a burglar
throw a child out the window?"

278
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I'd ask them these questions

279
00:18:38,075 --> 00:18:41,161
so we could reach
a more plausible hypothesis

280
00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:43,997
of what could've happened
in the apartment.

281
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You are watching
this exclusive scene.

282
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:53,048
Anna Carolina, the stepmother,
a young woman.

283
00:18:53,132 --> 00:18:54,508
She seems to be scared.

284
00:18:55,551 --> 00:18:57,136
Her face is tense.

285
00:18:57,219 --> 00:18:58,804
GIRL DIES AFTER FALLING

286
00:18:58,929 --> 00:19:01,348
At first,
it was just an ordinary case.

287
00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:06,395
On the very first day, the newspapers
didn't highlight this case that much.

288
00:19:06,478 --> 00:19:08,814
It started gaining attention over time.

289
00:19:14,736 --> 00:19:16,446
On Sunday, I left home.

290
00:19:17,364 --> 00:19:20,742
I was on my way to the funeral,
and some TV channel called me.

291
00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:25,247
For an average family like mine,
tragedies like this only happen on TV.

292
00:19:26,081 --> 00:19:28,834
Suddenly, I was on TV.
It was my family on TV.

293
00:19:35,757 --> 00:19:40,512
MARCH 30TH, 2008

294
00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:43,682
It's knowing that my daughter
didn't get a chance to read,

295
00:19:44,349 --> 00:19:46,518
to write, to study…

296
00:19:49,062 --> 00:19:50,647
to turn 15,

297
00:19:50,731 --> 00:19:53,859
to have dreams, to go to college.

298
00:19:53,942 --> 00:19:55,068
She just didn't.

299
00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:01,116
We gotta be there for each other.

300
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,495
Sometimes we lose our strength,
but we try to be there for each other.

301
00:20:12,127 --> 00:20:14,129
FOREVER OUR LITTLE STAR

302
00:20:17,716 --> 00:20:20,302
We're talking
about a crime against a child,

303
00:20:20,969 --> 00:20:23,096
and that kind of crime moves people.

304
00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:25,766
It happened to a middle-class family.

305
00:20:26,308 --> 00:20:29,228
The context of the crime
caught people's eyes.

306
00:20:29,311 --> 00:20:30,145
Thank you.

307
00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:32,439
We studied together,
fourth grade.

308
00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:35,359
We support you.

309
00:20:37,486 --> 00:20:39,071
I couldn't leave my house.

310
00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:45,619
Because TV reporters, radio reporters,
or newspaper journalists

311
00:20:45,702 --> 00:20:48,455
would stand in front of my house
like they were on call.

312
00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:50,832
Day and night.

313
00:20:52,542 --> 00:20:54,503
Sorry, I understand
where you're coming from,

314
00:20:54,586 --> 00:20:56,380
but I'd rather be left alone.

315
00:20:57,422 --> 00:20:59,132
They said the girl fell off the building,

316
00:20:59,216 --> 00:21:01,927
but an experienced policeman gets there
and says it wasn't like that.

317
00:21:02,010 --> 00:21:03,136
Right, Officer Calil?

318
00:21:04,304 --> 00:21:06,807
We're facing
a complex case here.

319
00:21:07,557 --> 00:21:09,726
We're being extremely cautious.

320
00:21:10,352 --> 00:21:14,022
We're checking every single piece
of information that gets to us,

321
00:21:14,106 --> 00:21:15,857
anyone who was mentioned,

322
00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:19,695
anyone who saw someone
doing something in the building.

323
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:27,035
The on-call forensic officer
got there first.

324
00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:29,913
As soon as he noticed
that something was off,

325
00:21:29,997 --> 00:21:31,123
he reached out to me.

326
00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:37,004
I was informed it was a burglary
that ended up in death.

327
00:21:37,087 --> 00:21:38,922
So I went there and assessed the scene.

328
00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:41,049
"Okay, so what happened here?"

329
00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:43,885
"What happened is the parents left her
in the apartment sleeping,

330
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,930
then went to get the other two,
who were in the car."

331
00:21:47,431 --> 00:21:49,641
"When they came back, she was there."

332
00:21:50,225 --> 00:21:53,145
"She was defenestrated.
She was thrown out of the window."

333
00:21:53,228 --> 00:21:55,689
"She was lying right next
to the doorman's post."

334
00:21:56,940 --> 00:22:00,110
"Was she harmed?"
"No, they said she wasn't harmed."

335
00:22:00,944 --> 00:22:03,113
Okay, but if she wasn't harmed,

336
00:22:03,196 --> 00:22:05,824
why is there blood
by the apartment's entrance?

337
00:22:06,491 --> 00:22:08,535
That bloodstain was at the doorstep,

338
00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:13,874
which indicates that it had been produced
from the outside in.

339
00:22:13,957 --> 00:22:16,001
This is something
that caught my attention.

340
00:22:16,084 --> 00:22:17,544
This can't be ignored.

341
00:22:17,627 --> 00:22:19,963
The girl was hurt outside
of the apartment.

342
00:22:24,051 --> 00:22:25,844
There was a lot
of laundry to be done

343
00:22:25,927 --> 00:22:28,680
on the washing tub
and on the washing machine,

344
00:22:30,932 --> 00:22:33,393
but I noticed a bucket
with a cloth inside.

345
00:22:33,477 --> 00:22:35,562
It looked like a cloth diaper.

346
00:22:37,397 --> 00:22:38,690
It was sunken in water,

347
00:22:38,774 --> 00:22:42,611
so I thought, "There's so much stuff here,
and just this one bucket?"

348
00:22:44,112 --> 00:22:45,280
"Let's take that."

349
00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,157
What happened? Blood.

350
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,950
There was blood on the diaper.

351
00:22:50,077 --> 00:22:52,996
FORENSIC POLICE

352
00:22:54,498 --> 00:22:56,958
The first contact
we had with the case

353
00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:59,127
happened very early in the morning.

354
00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:03,715
We got a phone call
from the morgue's front desk

355
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:05,884
telling us there was
a civil police officer

356
00:23:05,967 --> 00:23:08,804
who wanted to ask us
some questions about a case.

357
00:23:09,388 --> 00:23:10,430
CORONER

358
00:23:10,514 --> 00:23:14,226
The officer wanted to know
if there were any wounds of the body

359
00:23:14,309 --> 00:23:18,230
that would be enough to cause
the blood spills found on the scene.

360
00:23:21,525 --> 00:23:24,236
In fact, she did have
a wound on her forehead.

361
00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:28,240
It was caused by
a pointy object of some sort.

362
00:23:29,032 --> 00:23:31,326
It left a small wound on her forehead.

363
00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:34,704
Her face was blueish, her nails too.

364
00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:38,667
She had some marks on her neck
that indicated that someone squeezed it.

365
00:23:40,335 --> 00:23:42,504
Clear signs of asphyxiation.

366
00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:47,342
INSTITUTE OF FORENSIC MEDICINE

367
00:23:49,511 --> 00:23:52,472
Her death was caused
by multiple traumas

368
00:23:53,473 --> 00:23:56,226
and mechanical asphyxiation
from choking.

369
00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:05,152
When she fell, she didn't die immediately.
She was alive for some time.

370
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:08,238
She was hurt.

371
00:24:08,321 --> 00:24:11,199
She was going through
a serious asphyxiation process

372
00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:12,826
that ended up killing her.

373
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,499
There were several signs on the body

374
00:24:19,583 --> 00:24:23,879
indicating she had been choked
before being defenestrated.

375
00:24:23,962 --> 00:24:28,675
POLICE

376
00:24:30,218 --> 00:24:33,638
When Alexandre talked to me,
he started by asking,

377
00:24:33,722 --> 00:24:35,474
"Did you catch the burglar?"

378
00:24:40,061 --> 00:24:42,230
Over 30 officers
were called to duty that night

379
00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:45,025
because a burglar
had broken into the apartment

380
00:24:45,108 --> 00:24:47,235
and thrown the girl out of the window.

381
00:24:49,237 --> 00:24:51,573
Naturally, the police set
the perimeter on the block

382
00:24:51,656 --> 00:24:55,452
and canvassed the surroundings
to find the supposed aggressor.

383
00:24:58,121 --> 00:25:01,833
No personal belongings were missing,
there was no evidence of a break-in,

384
00:25:01,917 --> 00:25:04,836
there was no report of any other person
being seen in the building

385
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,087
or going down the elevator.

386
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:12,219
When we got to the hospital,
Alexandre came to talk to me.

387
00:25:12,302 --> 00:25:14,679
He said, "Rosa, she was so happy,

388
00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:17,599
and then the burglar
just tossed her from up there."

389
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,227
"What are you talking about?"

390
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:22,854
"When I got there,
the door was broken down."

391
00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:26,274
"What do you mean?
Why would he toss her from up there?"

392
00:25:29,736 --> 00:25:34,199
He was acting like a caged lion,
going from one side to the other.

393
00:25:34,282 --> 00:25:38,828
"I saw the burglar. He was wearing black.
He broke the door down. I saw it."

394
00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:42,958
I was like, "Well, look at your size.
Why didn't you fight him, damn it?"

395
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,461
"Why didn't you fight him?"
Then he changed the subject.

396
00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:49,172
POLICE

397
00:25:50,465 --> 00:25:52,384
They had
the same train of thought.

398
00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:54,261
It was like they rehearsed it.

399
00:25:56,346 --> 00:25:59,975
She noticed the story
the couple was telling was pretty odd

400
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:04,688
because the sequence of facts
they were telling

401
00:26:05,647 --> 00:26:09,150
did not match
what the witnesses' had already told her.

402
00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:15,407
He was more worried
about adding someone to the crime scene

403
00:26:15,490 --> 00:26:18,243
and blaming this person
for his daughter's death

404
00:26:18,326 --> 00:26:20,036
than actually solving the crime.

405
00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:23,582
He didn't have questions,
he had information,

406
00:26:23,665 --> 00:26:25,625
and he tried to convince me it was true.

407
00:26:25,709 --> 00:26:27,002
I thought it was odd.

408
00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,757
She just realized
that the press is here.

409
00:26:32,841 --> 00:26:34,926
Her attorney is trying to hide her.

410
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:38,763
She's leaving the room now.

411
00:26:40,515 --> 00:26:42,183
But we've already gotten some images.

412
00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:46,146
What happened if they arrived
together from the grandmother's house?

413
00:26:46,229 --> 00:26:49,733
That will be determined by the police.
The police are doing their job.

414
00:26:49,816 --> 00:26:52,027
We're here to assist
during interrogations.

415
00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:53,653
We can't say who did this.

416
00:26:54,946 --> 00:26:57,866
The couple first went
to the police station

417
00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:01,202
with a team of attorneys
right off the bat.

418
00:27:03,163 --> 00:27:05,915
They had already prepared
a power of attorney document

419
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:07,375
to defend the couple.

420
00:27:08,918 --> 00:27:11,212
It caught our attention at the time.

421
00:27:11,838 --> 00:27:13,798
In cases that grab
the media's attention,

422
00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:16,468
those cases where
a crowd of reporters comes along,

423
00:27:16,551 --> 00:27:18,261
behind the crowd of reporters
and the cameras

424
00:27:18,345 --> 00:27:20,305
there's always
a group of civilians screaming,

425
00:27:20,388 --> 00:27:21,973
"Murderer! Justice!"

426
00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:24,267
So I remember hearing a female voice.

427
00:27:26,227 --> 00:27:27,771
"Murderer! Murderer!"

428
00:27:28,396 --> 00:27:31,566
So I look around, and I thought,
"Civilian at this hour? Really?"

429
00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:34,819
But it wasn't a civilian,
it was the precinct's chief on call.

430
00:27:34,903 --> 00:27:36,029
She was yelling at them.

431
00:27:37,197 --> 00:27:40,533
In no instance did I see
this precinct chief saying that.

432
00:27:41,785 --> 00:27:45,455
And I didn't have the time
to be up to speed with what was happening

433
00:27:45,538 --> 00:27:48,208
in the surroundings of the investigation.

434
00:27:49,125 --> 00:27:52,212
Notice the crowd.
Alexandre and Anna Carolina are coming.

435
00:27:52,295 --> 00:27:53,963
Lots of people. No pushing!

436
00:27:55,423 --> 00:27:57,550
Excuse us!
Don't block the car door!

437
00:27:57,634 --> 00:27:58,635
Don't block it!

438
00:28:01,638 --> 00:28:03,139
This is a ruckus.
Don't push me.

439
00:28:03,223 --> 00:28:04,474
Get a shot of the car!

440
00:28:04,557 --> 00:28:07,435
Check this out.
We're right in front of the car.

441
00:28:08,311 --> 00:28:11,231
Alexandre and Anna Carolina
are coming out.

442
00:28:12,148 --> 00:28:14,025
Look over here! Get back here!

443
00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:16,027
Alexandre's coming out over here!

444
00:28:18,238 --> 00:28:21,866
At first, Ana Carolina de Oliveira
didn't point fingers at anybody.

445
00:28:23,118 --> 00:28:26,663
MOTHER AND GRANDFATHER
DEFEND FATHER AND STEPMOTHER

446
00:28:26,746 --> 00:28:28,581
I had no reason to doubt them.

447
00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:31,376
My family didn't even think about it.

448
00:28:31,876 --> 00:28:33,378
I didn't think about it.

449
00:28:35,171 --> 00:28:38,133
People would say, "He did it! He did it!"

450
00:28:39,259 --> 00:28:40,427
We'd say, "No."

451
00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:43,346
"Sure, he can be cold
sometimes or whatever,

452
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:47,392
but he would never murder his little girl

453
00:28:48,977 --> 00:28:52,272
because he loved Isa, and Isa loved him."

454
00:28:59,446 --> 00:29:01,197
If I were the girl's mother,

455
00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:03,283
the girl's grandmother,

456
00:29:03,366 --> 00:29:06,119
I'd be on my knees praying
for it to be another person.

457
00:29:06,202 --> 00:29:08,705
CRIMINOLOGIST

458
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:13,960
I wouldn't even imagine the girl's father
could be involved in such a story.

459
00:29:16,921 --> 00:29:20,175
The adjunct police chief
arrived with the couple's attorneys.

460
00:29:21,092 --> 00:29:23,428
She didn't disclose what was discussed.

461
00:29:24,137 --> 00:29:26,765
She assured it wasn't
an official statement.

462
00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:28,641
I can't disclose anything.

463
00:29:29,142 --> 00:29:31,519
-Is it confidential?
-Yes, it's confidential.

464
00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:36,524
Investigating a crime in which the suspect
is close to the victim is a delicate task.

465
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:39,194
It takes three times
as much responsibilities.

466
00:29:40,111 --> 00:29:41,821
There's no room for mistakes.

467
00:29:41,905 --> 00:29:44,866
You can't mistakenly charge
a father, or a mother,

468
00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:46,743
or anyone who's close to the victim.

469
00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:51,498
If that person turns out to be innocent,
they're a victim too, they're hurting.

470
00:29:52,749 --> 00:29:54,959
We can't make the mistake
of accusing a father

471
00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:58,963
of killing his own daughter
without being absolutely sure.

472
00:30:00,173 --> 00:30:01,549
What I can reveal is that,

473
00:30:01,633 --> 00:30:04,594
after having gathered evidence
on the crime scene,

474
00:30:04,677 --> 00:30:08,306
we can visualize about 70%
of what happened that day.

475
00:30:09,849 --> 00:30:11,810
After two or three days
of investigation,

476
00:30:11,893 --> 00:30:14,437
I had enough evidence
to tell that they were lying.

477
00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:17,816
And if that man was capable of throwing
his own daughter out of the window,

478
00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:20,693
then he's capable of running away,
of anything.

479
00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:23,363
POLICE

480
00:30:23,446 --> 00:30:25,532
Please understand
this is a very serious crime

481
00:30:25,615 --> 00:30:27,492
involving truly arduous work.

482
00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:30,286
Officer Renata
is fully dedicated to this case

483
00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:32,205
and working on it exclusively.

484
00:30:33,873 --> 00:30:35,792
She barely even slept
these past three days,

485
00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:38,044
so we won't take on the demand
of closing the case

486
00:30:38,127 --> 00:30:40,630
earlier than the 30 days
determined by law.

487
00:30:41,714 --> 00:30:45,343
When everything happened,
I called Officer Renata.

488
00:30:45,426 --> 00:30:46,469
POLICE CHIEF

489
00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:48,888
And she said, "Sir, I'm sure of it."

490
00:30:49,597 --> 00:30:50,932
"The couple did it."

491
00:30:52,725 --> 00:30:54,811
The police issued
a warrant for the temporary arrest

492
00:30:54,894 --> 00:30:56,729
of Isabella's father and stepmother.

493
00:31:15,456 --> 00:31:17,166
People are screaming, "Murderer."

494
00:31:17,250 --> 00:31:19,002
He looks scared. He's leaving right now.

495
00:31:19,085 --> 00:31:20,920
Look, this is Alexandre.

496
00:31:21,504 --> 00:31:23,172
Alexandre, are you innocent?

497
00:31:24,257 --> 00:31:25,258
I'm innocent.

498
00:31:25,758 --> 00:31:27,510
Why is this happening, Alexandre?

499
00:31:32,557 --> 00:31:34,350
Alexandre says he's innocent.

500
00:31:35,018 --> 00:31:36,936
The officers are protecting him.

501
00:31:39,689 --> 00:31:42,317
This is a ruckus.
People are still yelling, "Murderer."

502
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,653
Alexandre is heading out
while being protected by police officers.

503
00:31:47,739 --> 00:31:49,949
He's trying to get into the building.

504
00:31:50,491 --> 00:31:51,618
It's wild here.

505
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:55,830
People are chasing him.
He's running around the precinct.

506
00:31:57,665 --> 00:31:59,751
Here… He's going in.

507
00:32:02,045 --> 00:32:04,756
I'd say the case
went down a very risky path.

508
00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:08,009
If they never found
enough technical evidence

509
00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:12,138
that could confirm the suspicion
that the police had since the beginning,

510
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:15,892
then the case would turn into a scandal.

511
00:32:20,813 --> 00:32:24,067
Sometimes,
even in the beginning of an investigation,

512
00:32:24,734 --> 00:32:27,195
the outcome is already decided.

513
00:32:27,278 --> 00:32:29,656
But before reaching a conclusion,

514
00:32:30,406 --> 00:32:34,702
first, you need to assess
all elements found by the police chief

515
00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,664
during the whole course
of the investigation.

516
00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:42,502
That's a premise that cannot be abandoned
when you're building an investigation.

517
00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:45,964
The press needs to be fast.
It needs to be swift.

518
00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:47,757
It works in an immediate fashion.

519
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,800
So when a crime happens,

520
00:32:48,883 --> 00:32:52,428
ideally, they'd like to present
the guilty party right away.

521
00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:56,099
When justice tries
to keep up with the press,

522
00:32:56,182 --> 00:33:00,478
be that during the investigation,
be that during the trial,

523
00:33:00,561 --> 00:33:02,063
things get messy.

524
00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:07,110
I must abide
by the Brazilian legislation.

525
00:33:08,152 --> 00:33:10,863
It establishes how
the parties may gather evidence,

526
00:33:11,698 --> 00:33:15,243
and, so far,
the evidence incriminates the defendants.

527
00:33:17,495 --> 00:33:19,080
A few days after the crime,

528
00:33:19,163 --> 00:33:21,040
during my first interview
with a reporter,

529
00:33:21,124 --> 00:33:25,253
he asked me, "How many years
do you expect the defendant to face?"

530
00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:27,714
And I answered him,

531
00:33:27,797 --> 00:33:30,591
"Sir, we haven't even finished
the investigation yet."

532
00:33:30,675 --> 00:33:32,719
"We're not sure
if charges will be pressed,

533
00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:35,304
if there will be a trial, a jury,
and if they'll be convicted,

534
00:33:35,388 --> 00:33:38,766
but you're already asking me
how long their sentence will be?"

535
00:33:41,644 --> 00:33:43,438
TO THE POLICE, THERE ARE NO DOUBTS:
THEY DID IT

536
00:33:43,521 --> 00:33:47,900
A weekly paper published
an article saying, "They did it."

537
00:33:47,984 --> 00:33:50,778
That's basically a condemnation.
That's a sentence.

538
00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:52,697
For the Nardoni case…

539
00:33:53,656 --> 00:33:55,199
Just five years old…

540
00:33:55,950 --> 00:33:58,494
Alexandre and Anna Carolina
will testify in court…

541
00:33:58,578 --> 00:34:01,205
The mom, after all she went through
during the investigation…

542
00:34:02,665 --> 00:34:05,418
People were talking about the crime
everywhere and all the time.

543
00:34:05,501 --> 00:34:08,254
At the bakery, at bars…
People would talk about that.

544
00:34:11,424 --> 00:34:13,634
Isabella was thrown from the sixth floor.

545
00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,928
Justice. They can't get away with it.

546
00:34:16,554 --> 00:34:18,765
People were watching it
as if it was a soap opera.

547
00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:23,561
Ladies, do you really think
when a five-year-old gets scared

548
00:34:23,644 --> 00:34:26,522
they're patient enough
to grab a pair of scissors,

549
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:29,525
a five-year-old girl,

550
00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:31,611
cut the safety net and jump?

551
00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:35,323
What the fuck?

552
00:34:36,824 --> 00:34:38,785
My life turned upside down.

553
00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:44,165
Information would come to light,
new facts would come to light,

554
00:34:44,248 --> 00:34:46,793
and I was just, "What's going on?"

555
00:34:48,795 --> 00:34:50,588
This is exclusive.

556
00:34:50,671 --> 00:34:54,175
Our images show Isabella's
last moments inside the supermarket.

557
00:34:54,801 --> 00:34:58,137
You'll see everything that happened
inside that store.

558
00:34:58,221 --> 00:34:59,555
These are unreleased images.

559
00:35:04,435 --> 00:35:05,645
LOUSY ACTORS

560
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:07,522
MONSTER PARENTS

561
00:35:07,605 --> 00:35:09,565
Murderers! Murderers!

562
00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:12,568
People crave tragedies.

563
00:35:12,652 --> 00:35:13,694
They've been…

564
00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:15,071
PRIVATE EXPERT

565
00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:17,824
…yearning for tragedy since Greek times.

566
00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:24,413
Could Anna Carolina Jatobá
and Alexandre Nardoni leave the country?

567
00:35:29,544 --> 00:35:30,837
Who killed Isabella?

568
00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:35,133
It was just
blown out of proportion.

569
00:35:35,216 --> 00:35:37,718
We couldn't believe how huge it became.

570
00:35:37,802 --> 00:35:40,263
It was on TV 24/7.

571
00:35:40,346 --> 00:35:43,015
All day every day, I was on TV.

572
00:35:43,724 --> 00:35:44,725
Over the weekend,

573
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:47,228
three witnesses residing in the building
where the crime occurred

574
00:35:47,311 --> 00:35:49,856
provided their deposition
regarding Isabella's death

575
00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:51,357
to the investigation.

576
00:35:52,483 --> 00:35:53,651
I spoke with a nurse

577
00:35:53,734 --> 00:35:58,030
who mentioned hearing noises emanating
from a nearby building under construction

578
00:35:58,739 --> 00:36:01,367
which would serve
as the perfect escape route.

579
00:36:03,161 --> 00:36:05,621
I talked to the construction workers,

580
00:36:05,705 --> 00:36:06,789
JOURNALIST AND WRITER

581
00:36:06,873 --> 00:36:09,375
and I asked if they had seen anything odd.

582
00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:14,505
They said they didn't,
but someone slept there during the week,

583
00:36:15,631 --> 00:36:17,675
so maybe they would know something.

584
00:36:18,301 --> 00:36:20,386
The foreman confirmed
the information on the phone

585
00:36:20,469 --> 00:36:23,055
with the first worker to arrive on Sunday.

586
00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:24,473
Hi, Gabriel.

587
00:36:24,557 --> 00:36:26,434
FOREMAN

588
00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:29,353
Listen, was there
a break-in here last Sunday?

589
00:36:29,937 --> 00:36:31,272
Oh, so it was open?

590
00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:34,150
No one took anything,
but they opened the place?

591
00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:35,276
It was open.

592
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:39,614
He told me that when he got there
in the morning on Sunday,

593
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,535
he noticed that the gate
had been broken into.

594
00:36:46,704 --> 00:36:48,915
This OSB wood sheet was broken.

595
00:36:48,998 --> 00:36:52,126
It was supposed to be nailed
to the structure as the other ones.

596
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:53,502
They're all nailed together,

597
00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,048
but this was broken,
so someone could've passed through.

598
00:36:58,883 --> 00:36:59,842
Nothing was taken,

599
00:36:59,926 --> 00:37:03,638
but the foreman shows us how easy it is
to access the building.

600
00:37:05,097 --> 00:37:08,351
He said, "I could tell
someone went through our stuff."

601
00:37:08,434 --> 00:37:10,478
"I knew that someone had broken in."

602
00:37:11,562 --> 00:37:13,898
Were you there
that night, Gabriel?

603
00:37:13,981 --> 00:37:15,191
I wasn't there.

604
00:37:15,274 --> 00:37:16,859
I'm not there on weekends.

605
00:37:19,528 --> 00:37:21,239
What did the civil police do?

606
00:37:21,822 --> 00:37:24,951
That article had just been published,
and the police were about to decide

607
00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:27,245
if they were going
to release the couple or not.

608
00:37:27,328 --> 00:37:28,454
But right then,

609
00:37:28,537 --> 00:37:30,915
they took that construction worker
to the police station.

610
00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:34,794
He arrived at the station,
he met with the police officers,

611
00:37:35,378 --> 00:37:38,589
and chances are
he was pressured to change his story.

612
00:37:39,382 --> 00:37:42,885
Then they took him to the reporters
and he said, "I didn't say anything."

613
00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:45,471
"The gate wasn't broken.
It never happened."

614
00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:49,558
I know nothing.
I know nothing about a break-in.

615
00:37:50,309 --> 00:37:53,145
-Were you working at that time?
-No.

616
00:37:53,229 --> 00:37:54,981
-Did a burglar break in?
-No.

617
00:37:55,064 --> 00:37:56,732
-Did you give an interview?
-No.

618
00:37:56,816 --> 00:37:57,817
-No?
-No.

619
00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:59,277
What did you say?

620
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,029
Nothing was stolen, and nobody broke in.

621
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:03,781
-So nobody broke in?
-No.

622
00:38:03,864 --> 00:38:04,949
-No?
-No.

623
00:38:05,783 --> 00:38:09,328
The problem was that
the police did not investigate this lead.

624
00:38:09,412 --> 00:38:10,871
If they had investigated,

625
00:38:11,539 --> 00:38:13,791
they would have found
the person who broke in.

626
00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:18,462
It was Sergeant Messias
and two other police officers.

627
00:38:20,006 --> 00:38:23,217
Over 30 police officers
drove over to the scene,

628
00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:27,346
and they canvassed the area
as they usually do.

629
00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:30,474
And why didn't the police have information

630
00:38:30,558 --> 00:38:33,269
about the break-in
at that place on that night?

631
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:37,815
Because the sergeant failed
to include it in his report.

632
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:40,860
So what's the easy way out?

633
00:38:40,943 --> 00:38:43,779
You pressure an illiterate person,
a scared person,

634
00:38:43,863 --> 00:38:46,449
and say, "Look, from now on,
you deny it until the end."

635
00:38:46,532 --> 00:38:48,743
And he denied it until the end.

636
00:38:48,826 --> 00:38:52,163
JUSTICE TO DECIDE TODAY
ON RELEASE OF FATHER AND STEPMOTHER

637
00:38:52,246 --> 00:38:56,667
APPELLATE JUDGE WILL MAKE A RULING
ON THE DEFENSE'S HABEAS CORPUS MOTION

638
00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:02,465
JUDGE SAYS DETENTION CANNOT BE BASED
ON SUSPICIONS ALONE

639
00:39:02,548 --> 00:39:06,886
At 2:30 p.m., after a week,
Alexandre gets out of jail.

640
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:16,937
Murderer!

641
00:39:20,066 --> 00:39:21,609
I just have to thank God.

642
00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:40,544
We were called to escort
the couple to the police station

643
00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:43,589
where they'd be released.

644
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:46,050
That was where I first met them.

645
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:49,011
What surprised me
was that they started laughing.

646
00:39:51,931 --> 00:39:54,725
They started talking
as if nothing had happened.

647
00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:57,436
I even asked him,

648
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,231
"Why are you laughing?
Your daughter is dead."

649
00:40:02,525 --> 00:40:05,403
The couple will be relocated
to a safe place

650
00:40:06,112 --> 00:40:08,781
as they pose no risk or danger.

651
00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:21,168
APRIL 18TH, 2008

652
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:30,219
You had to be there to see it.

653
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,014
The day the couple gave
their statement at the station,

654
00:40:35,558 --> 00:40:38,769
the place was filled with reporters,
cameramen, photographers,

655
00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:40,229
even helicopters.

656
00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:48,028
They also did something
I had never seen before.

657
00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:55,411
They scheduled the couple’s interrogation
on April 18th,

658
00:40:57,705 --> 00:41:00,124
which would've been
the victim's sixth birthday.

659
00:41:14,263 --> 00:41:19,018
I scheduled the interrogation
on the same date as Isabella's birthday

660
00:41:19,101 --> 00:41:20,603
purely by coincidence.

661
00:41:20,686 --> 00:41:24,023
Anyone assuming it was intentional
is mistaken.

662
00:41:24,106 --> 00:41:25,816
It was not intentional.

663
00:41:27,818 --> 00:41:29,236
It was a strategy.

664
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,404
CHIEF OF SPECIAL OPS

665
00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:33,908
I'm assuming they did that
to appeal to people emotionally.

666
00:41:34,617 --> 00:41:36,702
Like an interrogation technique.

667
00:41:36,785 --> 00:41:37,703
Very common stuff.

668
00:41:37,786 --> 00:41:40,289
Have you ever heard of
"Good cop, bad cop"?

669
00:41:41,081 --> 00:41:43,459
Even kids know about this sort of thing.

670
00:41:45,628 --> 00:41:47,838
It wasn't something done under wraps.

671
00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:52,176
They released this information.

672
00:41:52,259 --> 00:41:55,429
They even installed portable toilets
in front of the police station

673
00:41:56,722 --> 00:41:58,182
so that the crowd could be there

674
00:41:58,265 --> 00:42:02,019
and somehow put pressure on the couple
for them to confess.

675
00:42:10,277 --> 00:42:13,239
I know they were in there
for over 20 hours,

676
00:42:13,322 --> 00:42:14,990
and they didn't confess.

677
00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:24,833
During the interrogation,
Alexandre Nardoni and Anna Carolina Jatobá

678
00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:27,044
denied their involvement
in Isabella's death.

679
00:42:28,003 --> 00:42:29,964
The timetables mentioned by the couple

680
00:42:30,047 --> 00:42:34,009
and the details of their arrival
to the building on March 29th

681
00:42:34,093 --> 00:42:36,845
do not match the statements
given by other witnesses

682
00:42:36,929 --> 00:42:39,223
nor the collected forensic evidence.

683
00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:41,016
Alexandre Jatobá,

684
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,519
father of Isabella's stepmother
Anna Carolina,

685
00:42:43,602 --> 00:42:46,105
does not question the couple's innocence.

686
00:42:46,188 --> 00:42:49,858
She said, "I can't believe
this is happening to me, Dad."

687
00:42:49,942 --> 00:42:51,527
I said, "Be strong."

688
00:42:51,610 --> 00:42:53,654
"Everyone goes through hardship in life,

689
00:42:53,737 --> 00:42:56,574
but right now,
we need to prove your innocence."

690
00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:59,410
What's your greatest fear right now?

691
00:42:59,493 --> 00:43:01,120
I don't fear anything right now.

692
00:43:01,203 --> 00:43:03,289
I'm confident. I'm sure they didn't do it.

693
00:43:03,372 --> 00:43:05,791
I'll do everything in my power
to prove it.

694
00:43:05,874 --> 00:43:08,877
What if the investigators
are able to prove that they did it?

695
00:43:09,503 --> 00:43:11,422
I don't know what they'll say.

696
00:43:11,505 --> 00:43:14,258
Every day someone says
there's been a new decision

697
00:43:14,341 --> 00:43:15,509
or that they have news,

698
00:43:15,593 --> 00:43:17,094
so we just have to wait.

699
00:43:17,177 --> 00:43:18,387
We can't speculate.

700
00:43:20,889 --> 00:43:23,767
I feel like Alexandre's
father's behavior,

701
00:43:23,851 --> 00:43:26,145
his family's behavior helped a lot,

702
00:43:26,228 --> 00:43:28,272
because they were on the news a lot.

703
00:43:28,355 --> 00:43:30,232
They wanted to be on the news a lot.

704
00:43:32,318 --> 00:43:34,945
And maybe people
would see them and think,

705
00:43:35,029 --> 00:43:38,824
"Looks like they're powerful people,
so they'll get away with it."

706
00:43:41,243 --> 00:43:42,995
I'd hear that a lot from other people.

707
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:47,541
"Is this going to work?
Will they be arrested? They're rich."

708
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:52,212
Antonio Nardoni
is not only a father and grandfather,

709
00:43:52,296 --> 00:43:53,547
but also a defense attorney.

710
00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:55,966
As a tax attorney,
he's always calm and composed.

711
00:43:56,050 --> 00:43:59,470
He appears to be instrumental
in the defendant's decisions.

712
00:44:05,768 --> 00:44:07,645
There was something about Alexandre.

713
00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:10,105
The look on his face,
the way he kept his head up.

714
00:44:10,189 --> 00:44:12,149
Something about him was arrogant.

715
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:15,944
He gave me the impression
that he was thinking,

716
00:44:16,028 --> 00:44:18,364
"No matter what you do,
my dad is going to fix it."

717
00:44:18,447 --> 00:44:20,908
"I'm safe. My dad's got my back."

718
00:44:23,577 --> 00:44:26,246
Despite his age,
he didn't act like an adult.

719
00:44:26,330 --> 00:44:27,956
His dad handled everything for him.

720
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,126
His matters, his conflicts,
the couple's fight.

721
00:44:32,878 --> 00:44:34,296
Even his apartment.

722
00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:38,926
Nothing was bought with his own money
because he couldn't afford it.

723
00:44:41,428 --> 00:44:45,265
Even the decoration choices
were made by the father.

724
00:44:47,643 --> 00:44:50,229
Nothing was his.
Everything was his family's.

725
00:44:50,312 --> 00:44:53,190
He could treat himself to all of it
as long as he behaves.

726
00:44:59,822 --> 00:45:04,118
Alexandre knew absolutely nothing
about Isabella's daily routine.

727
00:45:04,201 --> 00:45:07,329
He didn't know her teacher's name,
her pediatrician's name.

728
00:45:08,330 --> 00:45:11,166
He paid child support
because the court ordered it.

729
00:45:16,004 --> 00:45:19,341
So when you look at this child's father,
Alexandre Nardoni,

730
00:45:19,967 --> 00:45:22,344
he has a history of recurrent failures,

731
00:45:23,303 --> 00:45:26,056
recurrent attempts
of being the perfect son

732
00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:28,559
for that family followed by failure.

733
00:45:29,810 --> 00:45:31,520
He had a history of aggression,

734
00:45:33,313 --> 00:45:37,276
even towards his wife,
and even towards Isabella's mother.

735
00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:39,445
He got more aggressive over time.

736
00:45:41,613 --> 00:45:44,241
Talk to us!
Talk to the press.

737
00:45:47,286 --> 00:45:49,037
How are your kids?

738
00:45:50,956 --> 00:45:55,043
I remember there was a complaint made
by Anna Carolina Oliveira.

739
00:45:55,127 --> 00:45:57,171
ALEXANDRE ALVES NARDONI
ANA CAROLINA CUNHA DE OLIVEIRA

740
00:45:58,380 --> 00:46:00,048
She filed that against him,

741
00:46:00,132 --> 00:46:03,844
claiming he had threatened her
when Isabella was 16 months old

742
00:46:04,511 --> 00:46:08,557
because she enrolled Isabella at a school
without his consent.

743
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,565
We had to go to the police station
and file a complaint

744
00:46:16,648 --> 00:46:18,317
because he used to threaten me.

745
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,526
He wanted to kill me.

746
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:21,737
Yeah. He said he was going to kill me.

747
00:46:25,032 --> 00:46:27,951
DRIVER'S LICENSE
NAME: ALEXANDRE ALVES NARDONI

748
00:46:29,203 --> 00:46:33,665
Maybe he would sometimes spank
their children or something,

749
00:46:33,749 --> 00:46:35,751
but nothing out of the ordinary.

750
00:46:36,293 --> 00:46:38,754
Especially with Isabella.
He never did anything.

751
00:46:38,837 --> 00:46:40,964
Even her mother confirms this, so…

752
00:46:42,257 --> 00:46:44,384
What's lacking in the media coverage?

753
00:46:44,885 --> 00:46:46,470
This couple's version of the facts.

754
00:46:47,304 --> 00:46:49,348
Who doesn't remember
that notorious interview

755
00:46:49,431 --> 00:46:51,975
with the Nardoni couple
for the Fantástico TV show?

756
00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:55,646
It was the most watched TV show
at the time.

757
00:46:56,396 --> 00:46:58,857
We went
to Antonio Nardoni and said,

758
00:46:58,941 --> 00:47:00,943
"We want to interview the couple."

759
00:47:03,570 --> 00:47:06,114
Later that night, he called us and said,

760
00:47:06,198 --> 00:47:09,201
"Okay, they'll do it.
They'll give you an interview."

761
00:47:09,701 --> 00:47:10,536
It was huge.

762
00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:12,412
That was very big.

763
00:47:13,288 --> 00:47:14,122
APRIL 20TH, 2008

764
00:47:14,206 --> 00:47:16,416
You're being accused
of a serious crime.

765
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:17,960
How are you handling it?

766
00:47:20,587 --> 00:47:22,005
It was disastrous.

767
00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:25,759
They messed up the interview
because they weren't skilled speakers.

768
00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:29,513
They didn't have any experience
with these kinds of interviews.

769
00:47:31,181 --> 00:47:33,475
And the reporter took advantage of that.

770
00:47:34,059 --> 00:47:37,312
How do you feel
about Isabella's tragic death?

771
00:47:38,397 --> 00:47:39,481
We're suffering.

772
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,608
It all hurts us,

773
00:47:41,692 --> 00:47:43,360
what people are saying about us,

774
00:47:43,443 --> 00:47:47,072
their judgement of us,
because they've sentenced us themselves

775
00:47:48,031 --> 00:47:50,284
even though we're absolutely innocent.

776
00:47:51,702 --> 00:47:52,661
Right.

777
00:47:53,203 --> 00:47:56,206
Yes, we are a family,
my wife Anna Carolina and I.

778
00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:57,541
How can I put this?

779
00:47:58,083 --> 00:48:00,544
We're a family like any other, you know?

780
00:48:01,378 --> 00:48:05,340
We are all about family,
and we're united as a family.

781
00:48:06,508 --> 00:48:08,385
If any of us were still unsure,

782
00:48:08,468 --> 00:48:11,179
that interview on Fantastico
put our doubts to rest.

783
00:48:11,263 --> 00:48:13,015
We were absolutely sure.

784
00:48:13,932 --> 00:48:16,518
Her cry
was childish and ridiculous.

785
00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:20,105
She was pretending to cry.
It's not even childish.

786
00:48:20,188 --> 00:48:21,523
There were no tears.

787
00:48:22,691 --> 00:48:26,612
"We were a family.
We were a family. We were a family."

788
00:48:26,695 --> 00:48:29,156
Right. I've got a family too.

789
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,491
There are so many families out there

790
00:48:31,575 --> 00:48:33,785
who stab each other in the back.

791
00:48:35,245 --> 00:48:38,123
There was another thing
that caught people's attention,

792
00:48:39,124 --> 00:48:41,084
those who watched the interview.

793
00:48:41,919 --> 00:48:44,588
Whenever Alexandre tried to speak,

794
00:48:44,671 --> 00:48:46,757
the stepmother would talk over him.

795
00:48:47,382 --> 00:48:49,343
He couldn't finish his sentences.

796
00:48:49,426 --> 00:48:51,803
They don't know who we really are.

797
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:53,931
I mean…

798
00:48:55,641 --> 00:48:58,435
They know us through
what they see in the media,

799
00:48:59,186 --> 00:49:02,272
but most of what they're saying about us
was made up.

800
00:49:03,732 --> 00:49:05,859
Nobody knows our family for real.

801
00:49:05,943 --> 00:49:07,903
Nobody knows who we truly are.

802
00:49:09,404 --> 00:49:11,782
After that interview on Fantástico,

803
00:49:11,865 --> 00:49:16,078
many people hastily drew the conclusion
that Jatobá was the leader of the couple.

804
00:49:17,871 --> 00:49:21,041
But this thesis does not hold
under deeper assessment.

805
00:49:21,124 --> 00:49:23,043
She was the one being abused.

806
00:49:25,087 --> 00:49:29,049
She talks more, she's nervous,
she's anxious. She's not in charge.

807
00:49:41,645 --> 00:49:45,107
Another important detail
on Anna Carolina Jatobá's history

808
00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:48,443
is that she was clearly struggling
with depression.

809
00:49:48,527 --> 00:49:50,195
Postpartum depression.

810
00:49:50,278 --> 00:49:54,282
She was seriously depressed.
Her boy was eleven months old.

811
00:49:58,245 --> 00:50:00,914
That mess represents
her mental state.

812
00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:03,709
Her house is like a picture of her mind.

813
00:50:03,792 --> 00:50:04,918
She's not okay.

814
00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:07,796
She was hurting, she was suffering.

815
00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:09,923
Who said that she was happy?

816
00:50:10,007 --> 00:50:12,884
Were they holding hands
at the supermarket? Sure.

817
00:50:13,677 --> 00:50:15,929
But she was isolated from all her friends.

818
00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:19,349
She never hung out with any friends,
she never got any calls.

819
00:50:19,433 --> 00:50:21,601
You couldn't find a single friend of hers.

820
00:50:33,196 --> 00:50:36,950
Let's consider the hypothesis
that we're dealing with a normal couple,

821
00:50:37,034 --> 00:50:39,161
who aren't violent, cruel people.

822
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:44,416
At some point, someone lost their temper
and assaulted the child.

823
00:50:44,499 --> 00:50:47,961
Let's assume for a second
that this assault wasn't meant to kill.

824
00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:52,215
Let's assume that,
even though it wasn't planned,

825
00:50:52,299 --> 00:50:53,592
it ended up happening.

826
00:50:53,675 --> 00:50:56,303
This is not just about the mistakes
that were made anymore.

827
00:50:56,386 --> 00:50:57,512
This is about a wicked person

828
00:50:57,596 --> 00:50:59,890
who committed a crime
and tried to hide it.

829
00:50:59,973 --> 00:51:02,100
I don't know
what really happened in there.

830
00:51:39,971 --> 00:51:41,139
At this crime scene,

831
00:51:41,223 --> 00:51:43,892
what immediately called my attention
were the bloodstains.

832
00:51:43,975 --> 00:51:45,227
For two reasons.

833
00:51:45,727 --> 00:51:48,063
First, because of their morphology.

834
00:51:48,688 --> 00:51:51,483
I also noticed
that they tried to remove them.

835
00:51:52,442 --> 00:51:54,569
They tried to clean the bloodstains,

836
00:51:55,445 --> 00:51:57,322
but they were perfectly visible.

837
00:52:00,367 --> 00:52:05,330
The bloodstains marked a path
from the door to the couch.

838
00:52:09,334 --> 00:52:13,130
The bloodstains that were right in front
of the door told us something.

839
00:52:14,047 --> 00:52:15,966
Because of the height of their projection,

840
00:52:16,049 --> 00:52:19,052
we could tell Isabella
was carried into the apartment.

841
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:21,221
She didn't come here walking by herself.

842
00:52:24,808 --> 00:52:27,310
The drops matched the stride of an adult.

843
00:52:31,148 --> 00:52:33,567
We can also tell the height
of the person carrying her

844
00:52:33,650 --> 00:52:36,194
by the way the blood drops were projected,

845
00:52:36,278 --> 00:52:37,904
which matches the father's height.

846
00:52:38,488 --> 00:52:42,492
Let's assume Anna, making a huge effort,
was carrying the kid.

847
00:52:42,993 --> 00:52:46,079
The bloodstains would have
had another morphology,

848
00:52:46,163 --> 00:52:47,664
that of a shorter height.

849
00:52:52,085 --> 00:52:54,588
Here, right by the couch,

850
00:52:54,671 --> 00:52:56,923
there were several other bloodstains,

851
00:52:57,007 --> 00:52:59,885
other than those
I'd seen coming from the door.

852
00:53:03,096 --> 00:53:05,932
If you followed the path
drawn by the bloodstains,

853
00:53:07,017 --> 00:53:11,396
you would be led straight into the bedroom
where the children used to sleep in.

854
00:53:19,487 --> 00:53:23,366
The bed wasn't made.
There were blood drops here as well.

855
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:30,165
The last bloodstain
we found in this apartment

856
00:53:31,249 --> 00:53:32,626
was on the windowsill.

857
00:53:35,712 --> 00:53:37,881
There were a lot
of dirty dishes in the sink,

858
00:53:37,964 --> 00:53:40,425
but I still noticed a pair of scissors.

859
00:53:42,928 --> 00:53:43,762
And I thought,

860
00:53:43,845 --> 00:53:47,974
"This object could have been used
to cut the safety net."

861
00:53:49,184 --> 00:53:51,603
We found, trapped within the scissors,

862
00:53:51,686 --> 00:53:53,521
a part of the safety net.

863
00:54:02,489 --> 00:54:04,741
There were many toys on the bed.

864
00:54:04,824 --> 00:54:06,660
Plus, the bed was made.

865
00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:11,748
Other than that, there was a drawing
Isabella did on the bed.

866
00:54:13,208 --> 00:54:16,878
Therefore, there's no way
the father placed her on the bed.

867
00:54:16,962 --> 00:54:19,464
The fact that he said that
bothered me deeply.

868
00:54:19,547 --> 00:54:21,091
Why was the father lying?

869
00:54:21,925 --> 00:54:23,677
FORENSIC POLICE

870
00:54:26,846 --> 00:54:28,723
FORENSIC POLICE

871
00:54:29,474 --> 00:54:31,101
The defendants
were subpoenaed,

872
00:54:31,184 --> 00:54:33,687
invited to take part
in a reenactment

873
00:54:33,770 --> 00:54:37,732
that happened on Sunday morning,
April 27th, 2008.

874
00:54:41,486 --> 00:54:44,698
The forensic team
was going to reenact, to a T,

875
00:54:44,781 --> 00:54:47,909
the version the defendants thought
would benefit them.

876
00:54:48,994 --> 00:54:50,412
They refused to go.

877
00:54:50,495 --> 00:54:53,623
They said they wouldn't produce evidence
against themselves.

878
00:54:54,541 --> 00:54:58,003
APRIL 27TH, 2008

879
00:55:08,305 --> 00:55:11,516
The police chief formally requested
that Judge Maurício

880
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:16,396
prohibit any aircrafts from flying
within a 1.2 mile perimeter.

881
00:55:21,776 --> 00:55:24,654
But the press came up with a workaround.

882
00:55:24,738 --> 00:55:27,365
They rented the surrounding apartments,

883
00:55:27,449 --> 00:55:30,994
and they put the reporters
and commentators on the balconies

884
00:55:31,494 --> 00:55:35,707
with powerful cameras
so they could film the forensic team.

885
00:55:45,884 --> 00:55:47,260
For almost three hours,

886
00:55:47,344 --> 00:55:49,429
a team of ten professionals
have been in the building

887
00:55:49,512 --> 00:55:51,973
where the crime happened on March 29th.

888
00:56:01,066 --> 00:56:04,778
With the simulation,
we established the timing of the events.

889
00:56:04,861 --> 00:56:08,156
We drew out a timeline,
which was extremely important.

890
00:56:09,491 --> 00:56:12,869
We searched for any previously unknown
pieces of information

891
00:56:12,952 --> 00:56:15,288
since the beginning of the investigation.

892
00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:19,250
For example, the car had a GPS device.

893
00:56:19,959 --> 00:56:24,005
We were able to pinpoint
the exact moment the car was turned off.

894
00:56:24,089 --> 00:56:28,385
Everything happened
after 11:36 p.m. that night.

895
00:56:29,469 --> 00:56:34,349
11:36 P.M.

896
00:56:38,353 --> 00:56:40,980
They went upstairs.
They got into the apartment.

897
00:56:41,481 --> 00:56:45,610
All of that happened in 15 minutes.
It all took place within that timeframe.

898
00:56:49,948 --> 00:56:53,201
At 11:49 p.m., the doorman heard a noise.

899
00:56:53,284 --> 00:56:55,620
He said it sounded like a car crash.

900
00:56:57,580 --> 00:56:58,915
11:49 P.M.

901
00:56:58,998 --> 00:57:02,043
Immediately, he goes out
and calls the building manager.

902
00:57:02,127 --> 00:57:04,546
The manager desperately calls the police.

903
00:57:05,922 --> 00:57:08,550
We also know exactly
when they answered that call.

904
00:57:08,633 --> 00:57:10,009
11:50 p.m.

905
00:57:10,093 --> 00:57:14,013
11:50 P.M.

906
00:57:14,848 --> 00:57:18,643
We have the recording of the manager's
talk with the police responder.

907
00:57:19,352 --> 00:57:21,104
There's a burglar
in this building!

908
00:57:21,187 --> 00:57:23,898
Someone threw a kid from up there!
Oh my God!

909
00:57:23,982 --> 00:57:25,733
We were able to use that recording

910
00:57:25,817 --> 00:57:27,902
to identify the exact moment

911
00:57:27,986 --> 00:57:31,114
in which the defendant arrives
to check the body.

912
00:57:34,117 --> 00:57:37,662
It happened at 11:50 p.m.
and a few seconds.

913
00:57:39,664 --> 00:57:43,543
That means that one minute after Isabella
had been thrown from up there,

914
00:57:43,626 --> 00:57:46,004
the defendant was right next to her body.

915
00:57:48,298 --> 00:57:52,427
While all of this is happening,
Anna is in the apartment making calls.

916
00:57:52,510 --> 00:57:54,762
The first person Anna called
was her father.

917
00:57:54,846 --> 00:57:56,764
The call was super fast, it took seconds.

918
00:57:57,348 --> 00:58:00,393
Then, after another six seconds,
she calls her father-in-law.

919
00:58:00,477 --> 00:58:01,811
It was also a quick talk.

920
00:58:02,395 --> 00:58:05,482
While she was on the phone,
Isabella was already down there.

921
00:58:05,565 --> 00:58:08,610
She was on the phone with her father
and then her father-in-law

922
00:58:08,693 --> 00:58:11,863
during the exact timeframe that Lucio,
the building manager,

923
00:58:11,946 --> 00:58:13,364
was on the phone with the police.

924
00:58:13,448 --> 00:58:16,159
And she was upstairs on the phone.

925
00:58:16,242 --> 00:58:20,371
I mean, if there was a third person,
then that person would be with them.

926
00:58:20,872 --> 00:58:23,041
They said they went back to the car.

927
00:58:23,124 --> 00:58:24,375
The girl was asleep,

928
00:58:24,459 --> 00:58:27,086
so they went back to the car
to get the other children,

929
00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:28,630
then they went up to the apartment.

930
00:58:28,713 --> 00:58:33,635
It was only upon entering the apartment
that they realized Isabella was missing.

931
00:58:35,261 --> 00:58:38,223
The account provided by the defendant
would suggest

932
00:58:38,306 --> 00:58:41,559
that he reached the ground floor
after midnight.

933
00:58:43,394 --> 00:58:47,232
That simulation was essential
for the timeline to be established.

934
00:58:47,315 --> 00:58:48,233
There's no way.

935
00:58:49,234 --> 00:58:53,112
Alexandre Nardoni
and Anna Carolina Jatobá are handcuffed.

936
00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:56,449
Their preventative arrest
was ordered this Wednesday.

937
00:58:57,659 --> 00:58:59,827
Right now, at 10:33 p.m.,

938
00:58:59,911 --> 00:59:03,456
the couple will be taken
to the 9th Precinct police station.

939
00:59:03,540 --> 00:59:07,043
Alexandre Nardoni
is being placed in a police car.

940
00:59:07,126 --> 00:59:10,255
There's Alexandre.
He's in the back of the car.

941
00:59:10,338 --> 00:59:13,925
There he is. They're taking him.
That car over there.

942
00:59:15,301 --> 00:59:18,846
Anna Carolina Jatobá
is being taken in that car.

943
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:23,935
We received an order
to go to the building.

944
00:59:24,477 --> 00:59:27,105
We took them with us,
and the crowd applauded.

945
00:59:29,315 --> 00:59:33,111
Our job was basically attending them
so they weren't lynched.

946
00:59:34,862 --> 00:59:37,532
Their arrival
at the police station was also hectic.

947
00:59:37,615 --> 00:59:38,908
As well as reporters,

948
00:59:38,992 --> 00:59:41,578
curious civilians
wanted to see the couple.

949
00:59:43,663 --> 00:59:45,456
Move! Move!
Go to the other side!

950
00:59:51,421 --> 00:59:54,173
Very soon after the judge
came to his decision,

951
00:59:56,593 --> 01:00:00,013
several news media outlets
were aware of what was going on.

952
01:00:01,347 --> 01:00:03,808
The officers who apprehended the couple

953
01:00:05,768 --> 01:00:08,855
removed the window tint
from the rear part of the car,

954
01:00:09,606 --> 01:00:11,774
where the prisoners are usually seated.

955
01:00:12,525 --> 01:00:14,485
It was all intentional, of course.

956
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:16,904
They even told the reporters
and camera crew,

957
01:00:16,988 --> 01:00:18,781
"Look, we got a little gift."

958
01:00:29,667 --> 01:00:32,462
And to top it off,
after they got to the police station,

959
01:00:32,962 --> 01:00:34,797
they had to wait inside the car,

960
01:00:34,881 --> 01:00:35,840
both of them.

961
01:00:38,134 --> 01:00:39,886
With the door wide open,

962
01:00:39,969 --> 01:00:42,305
so everyone could film them
and take photos of them,

963
01:00:43,556 --> 01:00:45,475
as if they were a couple of awards,

964
01:00:45,558 --> 01:00:48,144
a couple hunting prizes
the police had put down.

965
01:00:50,730 --> 01:00:53,983
I'm recording.
Sir, say something, damn it!

966
01:00:55,318 --> 01:00:56,944
All right, stop it.
That's enough.

967
01:00:57,028 --> 01:00:58,821
I thought you were gone, bro.
Come on!

968
01:00:59,781 --> 01:01:03,743
Excuse me! Careful!
Hey, watch your head! Watch your head!

969
01:01:13,211 --> 01:01:15,463
The police cannot stop
the press from doing their jobs.

970
01:01:16,798 --> 01:01:19,300
And the truth is,
there was no point in rushing any of it.

971
01:01:20,385 --> 01:01:22,220
They were arrested, they were safe.

972
01:01:22,303 --> 01:01:23,805
We had them under our protection.

973
01:01:23,888 --> 01:01:27,225
There was no reason to hurry just to keep
the press from getting good shots of them.

974
01:01:27,308 --> 01:01:30,269
If the press filmed them,
it's their business.

975
01:01:30,895 --> 01:01:34,899
COUPLE SURRENDERS BEFORE ENRAGED CROWD

976
01:01:34,982 --> 01:01:39,821
THE JUDGE ACCEPTED THE CHARGES
AND ISSUED AN ARREST WARRANT AROUND 6 P.M.

977
01:01:42,532 --> 01:01:44,492
The press seeks the scoop.

978
01:01:44,575 --> 01:01:47,328
And in the heat of the moment,
they may sometimes

979
01:01:47,412 --> 01:01:50,707
inadvertently turn a situation
into a spectacle,

980
01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,418
striving to be the first
with breaking news

981
01:01:53,501 --> 01:01:55,378
and outpace their competitors.

982
01:01:56,129 --> 01:01:58,381
Does this stem from bad faith?

983
01:02:00,174 --> 01:02:02,719
I couldn't tell you for sure
it's bad faith.

984
01:02:03,428 --> 01:02:06,556
All I know is that this case
moved the entire country.

985
01:02:07,098 --> 01:02:11,352
It was almost like society
went through a catharsis over this case.

986
01:02:16,524 --> 01:02:18,276
This case, without a doubt,

987
01:02:19,736 --> 01:02:24,115
symbolizes the complex relationship
between media and criminal justice.

988
01:02:25,575 --> 01:02:26,409
It's history.

989
01:02:26,492 --> 01:02:28,661
It's important to remember
that during the inquisition,

990
01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:32,248
crowds would gather at squares
to witness public executions.

991
01:02:32,832 --> 01:02:36,169
There was a sense
of satisfaction among people,

992
01:02:36,836 --> 01:02:40,590
driven by a perceived notion of justice,
regardless of who was being accused

993
01:02:40,673 --> 01:02:43,551
or what evidence led to those executions.

994
01:02:44,469 --> 01:02:47,096
People have shown
a great sense of interest

995
01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:49,515
in criminal justice throughout history.

996
01:02:53,394 --> 01:02:56,063
This crime happened
within the middle-class,

997
01:02:58,065 --> 01:03:01,235
which is a class of great influence
in public opinion.

998
01:03:03,696 --> 01:03:06,157
So, in a way, the middle-class audience,

999
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,784
which is the great public,

1000
01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:10,995
can picture themselves
in that same situation,

1001
01:03:11,078 --> 01:03:12,705
one way or another.

1002
01:03:13,956 --> 01:03:16,000
"I see myself in that apartment."

1003
01:03:16,083 --> 01:03:18,002
"For some reason, I covet that case."

1004
01:03:18,085 --> 01:03:20,004
"I want to know more about it."

1005
01:03:21,130 --> 01:03:24,550
So it's the perfect case
to get a major audience.

1006
01:03:25,802 --> 01:03:28,513
Some press channels
actually went over the top.

1007
01:03:28,596 --> 01:03:31,724
They completely lost sight
of their responsibility.

1008
01:03:32,433 --> 01:03:34,977
How can they analyze
the tone of her voice

1009
01:03:35,061 --> 01:03:37,188
without ministering a lie detector test?

1010
01:03:39,774 --> 01:03:42,735
To produce a news story
using a lie detector…

1011
01:03:43,569 --> 01:03:45,238
I don't agree with that.

1012
01:03:46,030 --> 01:03:49,158
We're suffering. It all hurts us.

1013
01:03:49,242 --> 01:03:51,118
What people are saying about us,

1014
01:03:51,619 --> 01:03:54,956
their judgement of us,
because they've sentenced us themselves

1015
01:03:55,581 --> 01:03:57,875
even though we're absolutely innocent.

1016
01:03:57,959 --> 01:03:59,001
LIE

1017
01:04:00,086 --> 01:04:04,298
I didn't produce that story,
and I wouldn't have done that.

1018
01:04:04,382 --> 01:04:05,800
I don't agree with that.

1019
01:04:09,512 --> 01:04:10,930
SUPER POP WITH LUCIANA GIMENEZ

1020
01:04:11,013 --> 01:04:14,642
Francisco Cembranelli,
thank you so much for this interview.

1021
01:04:15,476 --> 01:04:17,603
Thank you, it's my pleasure to be here.

1022
01:04:18,479 --> 01:04:20,982
Cembranelli
was considered a national hero.

1023
01:04:21,649 --> 01:04:23,150
-How are you?
-Great. Nice to meet you.

1024
01:04:23,234 --> 01:04:26,153
What should I call you?
Francisco, Chico, or Cembranelli?

1025
01:04:26,237 --> 01:04:28,072
Everybody calls me Cembranelli.

1026
01:04:28,155 --> 01:04:29,156
Cembranelli.

1027
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,658
Let's start from the beginning,

1028
01:04:30,741 --> 01:04:32,451
-and not when you were born.
-Oh, yeah.

1029
01:04:33,452 --> 01:04:37,373
District Attorney Francisco Cembranelli
became famous working on cases

1030
01:04:37,456 --> 01:04:39,041
that moved public opinion.

1031
01:04:39,667 --> 01:04:42,378
You became a superstar
during the Nardoni case.

1032
01:04:43,337 --> 01:04:44,964
Did that affect you personally?

1033
01:04:45,047 --> 01:04:47,550
Were you harassed?
Your family, your children?

1034
01:04:47,633 --> 01:04:49,552
What harassment did you go through?

1035
01:04:50,845 --> 01:04:52,805
People talk to me on the streets.

1036
01:04:52,889 --> 01:04:55,433
I don't know how to handle it
because I'm shy.

1037
01:04:56,893 --> 01:04:58,060
I'm not a celebrity.

1038
01:04:58,144 --> 01:05:01,689
I'm still doing my same old job
in the same place as always.

1039
01:05:04,942 --> 01:05:08,321
If I'm being completely honest,
I was ready to form a jury.

1040
01:05:08,404 --> 01:05:11,449
In 2008, three months after the fact.

1041
01:05:12,491 --> 01:05:14,744
I used to say that
to any journalists who asked me,

1042
01:05:14,827 --> 01:05:18,080
"What will it take for the prosecution
to take this to a jury?"

1043
01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:22,001
I would answer, "Nothing.
The judge just needs to order it,

1044
01:05:22,084 --> 01:05:24,837
and we'll call in a jury
with the evidence collected."

1045
01:05:24,921 --> 01:05:26,714
"It's enough to convict them."

1046
01:05:33,220 --> 01:05:37,183
The prosecution wants to take advantage
of all the clamoring

1047
01:05:37,934 --> 01:05:40,019
because it's easier to get the answer

1048
01:05:40,102 --> 01:05:43,356
while the public is affecting
the pace of the trial

1049
01:05:43,439 --> 01:05:44,440
and the investigation.

1050
01:05:56,744 --> 01:05:59,747
People would send me
their pictures attached to their letters

1051
01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:02,541
showing me their sympathies.

1052
01:06:03,626 --> 01:06:05,753
I would notice the magnitude
of this whole thing

1053
01:06:05,836 --> 01:06:07,922
when I received these moving letters

1054
01:06:09,048 --> 01:06:12,677
that described how people interpreted
and embraced the story.

1055
01:06:14,011 --> 01:06:17,556
Some people named their daughters
"Isabella" because of this.

1056
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:21,477
Anyway, these letters really moved me.

1057
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,395
Look.

1058
01:06:26,816 --> 01:06:29,735
"You don't know me.
I'm Rosana, I'm forty-seven years old,

1059
01:06:29,819 --> 01:06:31,362
and I'm a mother of three."

1060
01:06:32,071 --> 01:06:34,490
"Since March 29th, 2008,

1061
01:06:35,616 --> 01:06:37,743
we inadvertently became friends."

1062
01:06:37,827 --> 01:06:39,412
"When I heard about Isabella's tragedy,

1063
01:06:39,495 --> 01:06:42,206
I couldn't resist putting myself
in your position."

1064
01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:46,836
"Since that sad day,
I've had several sleepless nights

1065
01:06:46,919 --> 01:06:49,171
thinking about you
and your sweet daughter."

1066
01:06:49,922 --> 01:06:51,882
"I could only imagine your heartache."

1067
01:06:52,883 --> 01:06:55,845
"But I'm aware
that I'll never begin to fathom it."

1068
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,433
"I kept thinking if there was
anything I could do to help you."

1069
01:07:00,516 --> 01:07:01,892
"So on April 18th,

1070
01:07:03,644 --> 01:07:05,771
on mine and Isabella's birthday,

1071
01:07:06,772 --> 01:07:09,483
I made a protest banner against impunity."

1072
01:07:11,277 --> 01:07:13,863
"Since then,
I've been to several protests,

1073
01:07:13,946 --> 01:07:15,906
including the one
on the day of the trial."

1074
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:19,201
"I stood in front of the court
until their sentence was given."

1075
01:07:28,753 --> 01:07:30,629
ISABELLA FOREVER

1076
01:07:31,797 --> 01:07:34,383
We were anxious about it
until the very end, you know?

1077
01:07:34,467 --> 01:07:36,886
Because every day,
every week, every month,

1078
01:07:36,969 --> 01:07:38,637
we would get more news.

1079
01:07:39,930 --> 01:07:42,850
People wanted to know
how the investigation was going.

1080
01:07:42,933 --> 01:07:45,352
We suffered for two whole years.

1081
01:07:49,482 --> 01:07:51,525
The eve of the trial was…

1082
01:07:53,027 --> 01:07:54,987
…the worst eve I've ever lived.

1083
01:07:55,821 --> 01:07:58,074
Time stood still, the day wouldn't come.

1084
01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:01,035
MARCH 22ND, 2010

1085
01:08:01,118 --> 01:08:03,537
Today marks the beginning
of the trial for the couple

1086
01:08:03,621 --> 01:08:06,582
Alexandre Nardoni
and Anna Carolina Jatobá,

1087
01:08:06,665 --> 01:08:10,836
who are charged with the death
of Isabella in March of 2008.

1088
01:08:11,796 --> 01:08:14,131
This trial
has garnered unprecedented attention

1089
01:08:14,215 --> 01:08:16,592
in the history of the Brazilian press.

1090
01:08:20,179 --> 01:08:23,641
There's a significant buzz
surrounding this wildly televised trial

1091
01:08:23,724 --> 01:08:25,893
with a lot of activity happening
in this context.

1092
01:08:29,313 --> 01:08:31,232
The trial was insane.

1093
01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:35,778
A sidewalk in front of the court
was totally occupied by the crowd.

1094
01:08:40,407 --> 01:08:41,867
I was afraid of them.

1095
01:08:42,660 --> 01:08:45,621
There were so many people there,
so many press crews.

1096
01:08:45,704 --> 01:08:48,165
The overwhelming presence
of individuals surrounding you

1097
01:08:48,249 --> 01:08:49,917
made me hesitant to enter.

1098
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,169
I kept thinking, "What am I doing here?"

1099
01:08:52,711 --> 01:08:57,716
THE NARDONIS CHANGE THEIR ATTORNEY
AT THE EVE OF THE JURY TRIAL

1100
01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:01,554
Trust is paramount
in any client-attorney relationship.

1101
01:09:02,638 --> 01:09:06,350
In cases involving felonies against life,
like this homicide,

1102
01:09:06,433 --> 01:09:09,562
clients require someone exceptional,
a specialist in the field.

1103
01:09:11,355 --> 01:09:14,108
And Roberto Podval
has a lot of experience.

1104
01:09:14,191 --> 01:09:17,069
He's one of the most brilliant attorneys
in the country.

1105
01:09:17,903 --> 01:09:20,072
I guess they felt safe in his hands.

1106
01:09:24,869 --> 01:09:29,123
Roberto Podval, 44,
and Francisco Cembranelli, 49,

1107
01:09:29,832 --> 01:09:32,084
graduated from
the same law school in São Paulo

1108
01:09:32,168 --> 01:09:34,795
and are at the peak of their career.

1109
01:09:34,879 --> 01:09:37,381
Podval has worked
on some controversial cases

1110
01:09:37,464 --> 01:09:41,218
and won 13 of the 15 cases
he worked on before Isabella's.

1111
01:09:46,599 --> 01:09:48,851
Clearly, it was a lost cause.

1112
01:09:48,934 --> 01:09:51,353
But am I supposed to reject a case

1113
01:09:51,437 --> 01:09:54,440
just because it seems like
a lost cause at first?

1114
01:09:54,523 --> 01:09:56,734
They are being judged unjustly.

1115
01:09:56,817 --> 01:09:59,361
And in fact,
they have the right to defend themselves.

1116
01:10:02,031 --> 01:10:05,159
The attorney,
Roberto Podval, was booed by the crowd

1117
01:10:05,242 --> 01:10:07,578
as he was walking into the courthouse.

1118
01:10:09,747 --> 01:10:12,833
Podval was physically assaulted
in front of the court.

1119
01:10:13,459 --> 01:10:15,961
That's insane.
Attorneys don't defend crime.

1120
01:10:17,421 --> 01:10:18,422
It was very sad.

1121
01:10:18,505 --> 01:10:20,424
People were cheering
for a condemning sentence

1122
01:10:20,507 --> 01:10:21,675
in front of the court.

1123
01:10:22,259 --> 01:10:24,803
Their sentiments were fueled
by the daily media coverage

1124
01:10:24,887 --> 01:10:27,348
that consistently featured
the case in the news.

1125
01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:32,895
This law student
brought food and water.

1126
01:10:33,687 --> 01:10:36,065
She woke up early to be the first in line.

1127
01:10:36,565 --> 01:10:38,692
André,
where did you come from?

1128
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,613
About 500 miles from here.
It's in the north of Minas Gerais.

1129
01:10:42,696 --> 01:10:45,199
They have to go to jail.
They are murderers.

1130
01:10:45,282 --> 01:10:46,242
They're guilty.

1131
01:10:46,325 --> 01:10:49,036
I think they're guilty
until proven otherwise.

1132
01:10:49,119 --> 01:10:51,747
There's no evidence
of a third person at the crime scene.

1133
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:52,831
I think they're guilty.

1134
01:10:52,915 --> 01:10:55,334
They need to go to jail. They're monsters.

1135
01:10:55,417 --> 01:10:57,586
As I know God exists, I know they did it.

1136
01:10:58,170 --> 01:11:00,130
Society is sentencing them.

1137
01:11:01,131 --> 01:11:02,967
Then, there are the jurors,

1138
01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:06,303
who are laymen representing society
in judging someone else.

1139
01:11:06,929 --> 01:11:11,267
When those individuals entered the court
to pass judgment to the couple,

1140
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:14,895
it's very hard to imagine
that they'd be unbiased.

1141
01:11:14,979 --> 01:11:18,941
JUDICIARY POWER REGIONAL COURT

1142
01:11:20,192 --> 01:11:22,278
It's kind of like winning the lottery…

1143
01:11:22,361 --> 01:11:23,237
JUROR

1144
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,365
…being a part of the jury
for a case such as the Nardoni's.

1145
01:11:28,033 --> 01:11:31,745
First, you need to be registered
as a jury member on that court.

1146
01:11:31,829 --> 01:11:36,292
Afterwards, 25 jurors are preselected
for a specific case,

1147
01:11:37,626 --> 01:11:41,297
and from those 25 jurors,
only seven will be selected.

1148
01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:43,757
JUDGE

1149
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:58,814
The prosecutor

1150
01:12:00,274 --> 01:12:03,777
looks at the jury,
who is already carrying all that weight,

1151
01:12:04,486 --> 01:12:06,697
that huge burden of public opinion,

1152
01:12:08,073 --> 01:12:09,199
and says,

1153
01:12:09,283 --> 01:12:11,452
"You are responsible for the result,

1154
01:12:11,535 --> 01:12:14,121
and you'll answer for it before society."

1155
01:12:16,123 --> 01:12:18,959
Is that what someone
who seeks justice would say?

1156
01:12:20,336 --> 01:12:24,006
The defense requested
that the Supreme Court invalidate the jury

1157
01:12:24,089 --> 01:12:25,841
due to the jurors' lack of impartiality

1158
01:12:25,924 --> 01:12:29,636
resulting from the public commotion
generated during the trial.

1159
01:12:30,846 --> 01:12:32,765
The only way to get
a truly impartial trial

1160
01:12:32,848 --> 01:12:34,433
would be to hold it on Mars.

1161
01:12:34,516 --> 01:12:38,354
Because everyone in Brazil knew about it.
Of course the jury had been influenced.

1162
01:12:41,523 --> 01:12:45,069
I got there, and then I was
the first person to give a deposition.

1163
01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:53,660
I chose four witnesses.

1164
01:12:53,744 --> 01:12:56,747
The first was Isabella's mom,
Ana Carolina.

1165
01:12:56,830 --> 01:12:58,916
She could describe that family's history.

1166
01:13:00,376 --> 01:13:03,045
She could discuss her relationship
with her daughter,

1167
01:13:04,713 --> 01:13:06,131
with her ex-husband,

1168
01:13:06,215 --> 01:13:07,049
with the stepmother.

1169
01:13:07,132 --> 01:13:11,845
She could describe her relationship
with Alexandre while they were married,

1170
01:13:11,929 --> 01:13:14,973
how it was after the divorce,
or even when the crime happened.

1171
01:13:15,057 --> 01:13:17,726
It was an important statement
with emotional weight.

1172
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:26,151
When I walked into the court
to give my statement,

1173
01:13:26,693 --> 01:13:28,529
I remember I was facing the judge,

1174
01:13:28,612 --> 01:13:31,281
and the couple was sitting
towards my right-hand side.

1175
01:13:31,949 --> 01:13:33,534
I didn't make any eye contact with them.

1176
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,955
I didn't want to look at them.

1177
01:13:39,039 --> 01:13:42,584
I tried to focus on what I had to do
right there and then.

1178
01:13:43,794 --> 01:13:45,587
I tried not to care
about them being there.

1179
01:13:50,050 --> 01:13:52,344
This Monday, the reporter Sandro Barbosa

1180
01:13:52,428 --> 01:13:55,806
watched
Anna Carolina Oliveira's deposition.

1181
01:13:57,057 --> 01:14:01,103
What was the most moving moment
of Anna Carolina's deposition?

1182
01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:06,358
Every time she was reminded
of her daughter,

1183
01:14:06,442 --> 01:14:10,404
every time she was questioned
about their mother-daughter relationship,

1184
01:14:11,071 --> 01:14:12,406
she'd get emotional.

1185
01:14:14,116 --> 01:14:17,661
At one point, she was talking
about how her daughter had this desire

1186
01:14:17,744 --> 01:14:19,580
to learn how to read and write.

1187
01:14:20,205 --> 01:14:23,500
Then she started crying
as she remembered her daughter.

1188
01:14:23,584 --> 01:14:26,003
WITNESS: ISABELLA'S BIGGEST DREAM
WAS TO LEARN TO READ

1189
01:14:26,086 --> 01:14:28,172
SINCE SHE WAS BEING LITERATE
AT SCHOOL AND…

1190
01:14:28,255 --> 01:14:31,967
(AT THAT MOMENT,
THE WITNESS STARTS TO CRY AGAIN)

1191
01:14:32,050 --> 01:14:33,677
I gave my deposition.

1192
01:14:34,219 --> 01:14:36,847
I was talking for hours about my memories,

1193
01:14:37,389 --> 01:14:40,934
about all that warmth,
about all those emotions…

1194
01:14:45,981 --> 01:14:49,151
After the deposition,
the judge is obligated to inquire

1195
01:14:49,234 --> 01:14:51,361
whether the parties agree
to dismiss the witness.

1196
01:14:51,445 --> 01:14:53,530
The witness may remain secluded
in the premises

1197
01:14:53,614 --> 01:14:56,700
but cannot be dismissed
unless all parties agree.

1198
01:14:57,659 --> 01:15:00,162
When the judge asked,
"Can she be dismissed?"

1199
01:15:00,245 --> 01:15:03,332
I agreed to it.
The defense disagreed to it.

1200
01:15:04,625 --> 01:15:08,253
The confrontation is done
to contradict their points,

1201
01:15:09,171 --> 01:15:10,839
the accused and the mother.

1202
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,926
I'm very interested in doing it.

1203
01:15:14,843 --> 01:15:16,386
I did that just to be safe.

1204
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:18,972
I did not want the mother
to watch the trial,

1205
01:15:19,056 --> 01:15:20,724
so that's what I needed to do then.

1206
01:15:20,807 --> 01:15:23,393
And I took a lot of heat back then
because of that.

1207
01:15:24,394 --> 01:15:27,564
I've prepared myself for that situation,
for the trial.

1208
01:15:27,648 --> 01:15:30,484
I was prepared to face the reality
of those problems again.

1209
01:15:31,443 --> 01:15:33,737
But I wasn't prepared to be in isolation.

1210
01:15:34,947 --> 01:15:38,575
The judge Maurício Fossen confirmed
that Isabella's mother must stay

1211
01:15:38,659 --> 01:15:40,827
until the last deposition is finished.

1212
01:15:42,454 --> 01:15:45,999
Emotionally, with the defense's request
to keep the mother isolated,

1213
01:15:46,083 --> 01:15:48,001
she'd have to stay there for days.

1214
01:15:48,085 --> 01:15:50,045
The witnesses have to be isolated.

1215
01:15:50,128 --> 01:15:53,173
She was emotionally shaken,
so it was a delicate decision.

1216
01:15:54,675 --> 01:15:56,218
They're killing my granddaughter.

1217
01:15:56,301 --> 01:15:59,388
They keep killing her every day,
and now they want to kill my daughter.

1218
01:16:00,430 --> 01:16:02,766
She needs her family's support.

1219
01:16:02,849 --> 01:16:04,184
It's the bare minimum.

1220
01:16:04,268 --> 01:16:07,104
She needs that right now,
the support of her family.

1221
01:16:07,187 --> 01:16:10,148
We're right here for her,
but they denied her this right.

1222
01:16:10,232 --> 01:16:12,985
They denied her
the right of suffering, of screaming.

1223
01:16:19,116 --> 01:16:22,786
They wanted her to be as far away
from the jury as possible.

1224
01:16:22,869 --> 01:16:25,455
She suffered so much
being alone in that room,

1225
01:16:25,539 --> 01:16:28,208
without me, without her father…

1226
01:16:31,378 --> 01:16:34,923
She didn't have anyone, really,
who could comfort her,

1227
01:16:35,007 --> 01:16:36,508
who could be there for her.

1228
01:16:36,592 --> 01:16:40,053
Even those who brought her food
couldn't talk to her.

1229
01:16:43,599 --> 01:16:45,809
They are isolated
from the jurors.

1230
01:16:45,892 --> 01:16:49,396
She couldn't leave the premises,
she couldn't go to a hotel.

1231
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:50,939
Everything happened in there.

1232
01:16:51,523 --> 01:16:53,275
We'd leave the courtroom and,

1233
01:16:54,067 --> 01:16:56,028
on the other side of the hallway,

1234
01:16:58,238 --> 01:17:01,408
there was a room
which was adapted to be a dormitory.

1235
01:17:02,951 --> 01:17:05,329
She also had to spend
a few nights at the court.

1236
01:17:05,996 --> 01:17:08,999
And her room was
sort of wall-to-wall with our room.

1237
01:17:11,752 --> 01:17:12,586
I never saw her,

1238
01:17:12,669 --> 01:17:14,671
but we could hear her crying
several times.

1239
01:17:15,339 --> 01:17:17,591
She was very emotional
because of her daughter.

1240
01:17:17,674 --> 01:17:19,468
I remember that very clearly.

1241
01:17:19,551 --> 01:17:20,927
That kind of stuck with me.

1242
01:17:25,223 --> 01:17:27,434
So I had to spend four days there.

1243
01:17:27,934 --> 01:17:29,645
I was left there alone in a room.

1244
01:17:30,312 --> 01:17:32,272
I couldn't stand that any longer.

1245
01:17:33,190 --> 01:17:35,442
After all, it was my daughter's trial.

1246
01:17:35,525 --> 01:17:38,278
It was the unraveling
of the story of my life.

1247
01:17:38,904 --> 01:17:40,280
And I couldn't even watch it.

1248
01:17:46,536 --> 01:17:49,247
At a certain point,
I don't know why, he gave up,

1249
01:17:49,331 --> 01:17:51,958
and agreed to have Anna Carolina
be dismissed.

1250
01:17:52,042 --> 01:17:54,002
And she didn't even watch the trial.

1251
01:17:54,086 --> 01:17:57,547
She was so emotionally distraught
she decided to go home.

1252
01:17:59,383 --> 01:18:02,260
I just got to a point
where I couldn't be there anymore.

1253
01:18:03,303 --> 01:18:06,139
It was really tough.
Being there was really hard.

1254
01:18:07,224 --> 01:18:09,184
Not being able to talk to anyone.

1255
01:18:09,893 --> 01:18:11,269
Things were happening out here,

1256
01:18:11,353 --> 01:18:13,897
and I couldn't know about it,
talk about it.

1257
01:18:14,940 --> 01:18:18,068
He left me trapped in there
during my time of greatest need.

1258
01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:24,866
That mother couldn't watch
her daughter's murderers' trial.

1259
01:18:25,951 --> 01:18:26,868
That's rough.

1260
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:33,417
She was kept from taking part
in what could be a healing process for her

1261
01:18:33,500 --> 01:18:36,503
and what could help her fully understand
what happened.

1262
01:18:45,095 --> 01:18:47,597
If I were the attorney
for the Nardoni couple,

1263
01:18:47,681 --> 01:18:50,517
I would've tried to refute
each piece of evidence.

1264
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,228
I would've tried to disprove
every piece of evidence

1265
01:18:53,311 --> 01:18:55,897
by analyzing each of them individually.

1266
01:18:58,608 --> 01:19:00,402
Podval is an amazing lawyer.

1267
01:19:00,485 --> 01:19:05,073
I have the utmost respect for him,
but his defense argument wasn't the best.

1268
01:19:05,741 --> 01:19:08,618
I mean, after all,
it was a difficult job, right?

1269
01:19:08,702 --> 01:19:11,163
They were definitely
getting a sentence, you know?

1270
01:19:11,246 --> 01:19:14,040
For instance, I think
the defense attorneys did a bad job

1271
01:19:14,124 --> 01:19:17,252
when handling a few details
about the forensic report.

1272
01:19:17,919 --> 01:19:20,213
The defense is hindered? Why?

1273
01:19:21,965 --> 01:19:26,219
Listen, I cannot and will not assert
that the defense is being hindered.

1274
01:19:26,303 --> 01:19:29,973
However, what I can say is that,
from the moment we entered this place,

1275
01:19:30,056 --> 01:19:33,268
we have been burdened
with the challenges of this case.

1276
01:19:37,314 --> 01:19:40,400
I heard about the Nardoni case
right from the beginning,

1277
01:19:40,484 --> 01:19:44,529
because the couple's attorneys came to me
and asked me to join the team.

1278
01:19:45,071 --> 01:19:47,073
But I told his father, "Look,

1279
01:19:48,825 --> 01:19:51,661
keep your money
because your son is guilty."

1280
01:19:51,745 --> 01:19:53,038
"He'll be convicted."

1281
01:19:56,041 --> 01:20:00,003
Even though I didn't agree with a bunch
of stuff detailed in the report.

1282
01:20:00,921 --> 01:20:03,006
REPORT: HOMICIDE

1283
01:20:03,089 --> 01:20:04,549
VICTIM: ISABELLA NARDONI

1284
01:20:04,633 --> 01:20:05,759
SUBMITTER: RENATA PONTES

1285
01:20:06,718 --> 01:20:10,180
The police,
the forensics, the public ministry…

1286
01:20:10,263 --> 01:20:12,599
No one had an ace up their sleeve.

1287
01:20:12,682 --> 01:20:15,101
That evidence that no once can refute.

1288
01:20:15,185 --> 01:20:16,019
So what did they do?

1289
01:20:16,102 --> 01:20:21,691
PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE

1290
01:20:23,026 --> 01:20:24,778
A little 3D video

1291
01:20:25,862 --> 01:20:28,907
in which they created a story of the crime

1292
01:20:30,784 --> 01:20:33,620
to try to describe
what happened that night.

1293
01:20:33,703 --> 01:20:35,247
That was their ace.

1294
01:20:36,206 --> 01:20:38,333
But, deep down, that's nothing.

1295
01:20:39,167 --> 01:20:40,669
Someone created that.

1296
01:20:42,170 --> 01:20:45,006
VICTIM IMMOBILIZATION SITE

1297
01:20:45,090 --> 01:20:48,885
That video captured what happened
according to the population's opinion.

1298
01:20:48,969 --> 01:20:50,929
But the trial goes way beyond that.

1299
01:20:52,764 --> 01:20:54,140
The animation was created

1300
01:20:54,224 --> 01:20:57,686
using the evidence found
at the crime scene and the simulation.

1301
01:20:59,145 --> 01:21:00,272
They refused to attend.

1302
01:21:00,355 --> 01:21:04,234
But we had sufficient elements
to establish a timeline.

1303
01:21:04,943 --> 01:21:08,071
Is it the truth?
It's the truth according to forensics.

1304
01:21:08,154 --> 01:21:12,200
They put in the work, compiled a report,
and reconstructed the crime

1305
01:21:12,284 --> 01:21:15,704
based on their understanding
of how the evidence would've been left.

1306
01:21:21,293 --> 01:21:23,211
It's kind of like a syndrome.

1307
01:21:23,295 --> 01:21:25,213
I see that a lot in police reports.

1308
01:21:25,297 --> 01:21:27,007
I call it Sherlock-ism.

1309
01:21:28,884 --> 01:21:32,095
As if the professional thinks
they need to explain everything.

1310
01:21:32,178 --> 01:21:36,016
They found, if I stand correctly,
13 bloodstains or droplets.

1311
01:21:37,684 --> 01:21:39,436
And then they came up with a story.

1312
01:21:39,519 --> 01:21:42,397
"From here, she went over there,
then she sat over there,

1313
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:44,566
then she got up,
she went to her sibling's bedroom…"

1314
01:21:46,693 --> 01:21:50,196
The prosecution needs
a complete version during the trial.

1315
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,284
Like a short film. A story
with a beginning and all their movements.

1316
01:21:55,702 --> 01:21:58,663
With that, the jurors believe
that the prosecution knows everything.

1317
01:21:58,747 --> 01:22:02,250
But that's not true in Isabella's case.
We don't know everything.

1318
01:22:08,256 --> 01:22:09,716
On the victim's bedroom door,

1319
01:22:09,799 --> 01:22:12,510
there was a bloodstain
in the shape of a child's hand.

1320
01:22:13,970 --> 01:22:15,180
The attorney asked,

1321
01:22:16,306 --> 01:22:19,392
"Why doesn't the child touch the door
on your video?"

1322
01:22:20,936 --> 01:22:24,564
The forensic team answered,
"It didn't fit our story."

1323
01:22:25,690 --> 01:22:27,442
So this is my question,

1324
01:22:27,525 --> 01:22:30,612
"Which other elements
were found by the CSIs

1325
01:22:30,695 --> 01:22:34,032
but didn't fit the 'story'
presented by the video?"

1326
01:22:39,579 --> 01:22:41,790
Are some of the facts wrong?

1327
01:22:41,873 --> 01:22:42,707
Sure.

1328
01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:48,254
For instance, the moment of aggression,
in which she hits Isabella in the head.

1329
01:22:48,338 --> 01:22:50,632
This is not exactly how it happened.

1330
01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:54,052
That's where Isabella was.

1331
01:22:54,594 --> 01:22:57,222
She has a wound on her head,
as shown in the picture.

1332
01:22:58,223 --> 01:23:00,058
This wound bled inside the car.

1333
01:23:00,141 --> 01:23:01,476
They applied a reagent to the car,

1334
01:23:01,559 --> 01:23:04,646
and it tested positive
for the presence of blood.

1335
01:23:06,898 --> 01:23:10,485
It's a reagent
that allows us to see a bloodstain.

1336
01:23:11,736 --> 01:23:13,196
Even after it's been cleaned.

1337
01:23:13,780 --> 01:23:16,032
I used the reagent to see them.

1338
01:23:16,116 --> 01:23:19,285
I imagined other stains could be around,
and I was right.

1339
01:23:19,369 --> 01:23:20,787
There were other stains.

1340
01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:23,581
I also confirmed that it was human blood.

1341
01:23:25,625 --> 01:23:27,919
BLOOD (VICTIM'S GENETIC PROFILE CONFIRMED)

1342
01:23:28,003 --> 01:23:30,005
There was an assault in the car,

1343
01:23:30,088 --> 01:23:32,757
so they decided
to check the car for blood.

1344
01:23:32,841 --> 01:23:35,218
However, the blood they found in the car

1345
01:23:35,301 --> 01:23:38,722
could not be definitively confirmed
as Isabella's.

1346
01:23:39,681 --> 01:23:42,809
They conducted a DNA test
which wasn't conclusive,

1347
01:23:43,309 --> 01:23:46,104
but it did indicate
the presence of male blood.

1348
01:23:47,605 --> 01:23:49,566
So what did this bloodstain determine?

1349
01:23:49,649 --> 01:23:52,485
That she was attacked?
No! It wasn't her blood.

1350
01:23:52,569 --> 01:23:54,738
IMPOSSIBLE TO EXTRACT THE DNA
DUE TO THE EXIGUITY OF THE SAMPLE

1351
01:23:54,821 --> 01:23:58,450
We couldn't establish
that the blood belonged to Isabella

1352
01:23:58,533 --> 01:24:02,078
as it was mixed with the genetic profile
of another family member.

1353
01:24:03,329 --> 01:24:06,791
It belonged to one of the kids,
and was found mixed with their blood.

1354
01:24:07,792 --> 01:24:11,629
It was likely the baby's blood,
given its location on the infant car seat.

1355
01:24:17,802 --> 01:24:19,971
Then they were trying
to make it work.

1356
01:24:20,055 --> 01:24:22,599
They said,
"Well, he wrapped her head in a diaper."

1357
01:24:24,392 --> 01:24:25,477
Where's the proof?

1358
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,479
"We found a bloody diaper."

1359
01:24:27,562 --> 01:24:29,439
"Did you run a DNA test?" "No."

1360
01:24:29,522 --> 01:24:30,815
So it's not proof.

1361
01:24:30,899 --> 01:24:36,821
SUBSEQUENTLY, ANNA JATOBÁ
SQUEEZES THE VICTIMS NECK

1362
01:24:40,992 --> 01:24:42,452
And then the strangling.

1363
01:24:43,286 --> 01:24:45,288
The victim's neck injuries are real.

1364
01:24:46,081 --> 01:24:48,083
The morgue was able to find nail marks.

1365
01:24:48,166 --> 01:24:51,878
LESIONS CHARACTERISTIC
OF ASPHYXIA DUE TO STRANGULATION

1366
01:24:51,961 --> 01:24:54,422
They can't prove
that she strangled the girl.

1367
01:24:54,506 --> 01:24:55,340
DEFENSE ATTORNEY

1368
01:24:57,092 --> 01:25:00,053
We observed
distinct signs of asphyxiation.

1369
01:25:02,097 --> 01:25:06,017
In this particular case, though,
it would be extremely difficult

1370
01:25:06,643 --> 01:25:11,064
to determine whose hand was responsible
for causing those marks.

1371
01:25:16,236 --> 01:25:20,031
If you intend on sentencing two people
for a child's death,

1372
01:25:20,657 --> 01:25:23,952
you have to be able to point out
what each of them did.

1373
01:25:25,662 --> 01:25:28,915
Who threw her from up there?
Who killed her? Who did what?

1374
01:25:28,998 --> 01:25:30,834
How can they prove who did what?

1375
01:25:30,917 --> 01:25:32,085
They can't.

1376
01:25:37,882 --> 01:25:40,093
It's easier to believe in
the classic story

1377
01:25:40,176 --> 01:25:43,680
of an evil stepmother
who goes and leaves those marks,

1378
01:25:43,763 --> 01:25:45,723
then works it out with Alexandre,

1379
01:25:47,433 --> 01:25:49,227
as though everything was akin

1380
01:25:49,310 --> 01:25:52,188
to a horror movie
orchestrated against that child.

1381
01:25:52,272 --> 01:25:53,815
I asked the forensics officer,

1382
01:25:55,024 --> 01:25:57,110
"Why did you show, in the video,

1383
01:26:00,905 --> 01:26:03,158
that the stepmother strangled the victim

1384
01:26:03,241 --> 01:26:06,369
if the doctor himself says
it can't be confirmed?"

1385
01:26:08,371 --> 01:26:10,790
It was an observation, as simple as that.

1386
01:26:11,374 --> 01:26:14,377
Alexandre Nardoni bites his nails
all the way to the base.

1387
01:26:14,919 --> 01:26:17,714
Anna, on the other hand,
had normal-length nails

1388
01:26:18,882 --> 01:26:20,717
that could leave those marks.

1389
01:26:25,638 --> 01:26:27,807
Of course,
some people question it.

1390
01:26:27,891 --> 01:26:30,226
They make sure to pinpoint every mistake,

1391
01:26:30,310 --> 01:26:33,146
but every investigation
in the world has flaws.

1392
01:26:35,148 --> 01:26:36,482
Then I said to the jury,

1393
01:26:36,566 --> 01:26:39,777
"This report was done by the Institute
of Forensic Medicine of São Paulo,

1394
01:26:39,861 --> 01:26:43,448
one of the most respected in the country,
and by Hospital das Clínicas."

1395
01:26:44,073 --> 01:26:45,325
"But Mister Podval,

1396
01:26:45,408 --> 01:26:47,285
who has never attended
a medical school…"

1397
01:26:47,368 --> 01:26:50,747
"No one in his team
understands forensic medicine,

1398
01:26:50,830 --> 01:26:53,249
yet they want to tell you this is a lie."

1399
01:26:53,333 --> 01:26:55,084
"Who would you rather trust here?"

1400
01:27:06,888 --> 01:27:09,474
Some parents think
it's okay to spank their children.

1401
01:27:09,974 --> 01:27:12,727
Let's say one of those parents
spank their child, the child fell,

1402
01:27:12,810 --> 01:27:14,979
hits their head on an edge and dies.

1403
01:27:16,189 --> 01:27:18,149
Considering this hypothesis,

1404
01:27:18,233 --> 01:27:20,026
let's say this father thought,

1405
01:27:20,568 --> 01:27:22,987
"Holy fucking shit! What do I do now?"

1406
01:27:23,529 --> 01:27:25,615
Then, he tries to fake an accident.

1407
01:27:34,123 --> 01:27:36,334
Suddenly,
his mind stops working,

1408
01:27:36,417 --> 01:27:39,087
he's unable to make use
of critical thinking,

1409
01:27:39,170 --> 01:27:41,464
unable to think about consequences,

1410
01:27:41,547 --> 01:27:44,008
so he acts instinctively, aggressively.

1411
01:27:52,684 --> 01:27:53,685
There's a French term.

1412
01:27:54,352 --> 01:27:55,812
The insanity of a couple.

1413
01:27:57,647 --> 01:28:01,067
It's very characteristic
of the Nardoni couple and others.

1414
01:28:02,193 --> 01:28:04,195
So they're not psychopaths.

1415
01:28:05,196 --> 01:28:08,157
Neither of them fit
the profile of a psychopath.

1416
01:28:08,241 --> 01:28:11,077
People are so much more
than the crime they commit.

1417
01:28:15,290 --> 01:28:16,958
Here's the thing, though.

1418
01:28:17,041 --> 01:28:20,211
We can prove that both of them
took equal parts in it.

1419
01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:22,588
They are equally responsible
for her death.

1420
01:28:23,589 --> 01:28:25,800
And no matter how people spin this,

1421
01:28:26,801 --> 01:28:29,220
they can't remove the couple
from the crime scene

1422
01:28:29,304 --> 01:28:30,763
at the time of the fall.

1423
01:28:32,849 --> 01:28:34,726
No matter how we look at it,

1424
01:28:34,809 --> 01:28:38,521
they can't be placed elsewhere
at the time of the fall.

1425
01:28:42,942 --> 01:28:47,280
The trial reaches its fifth and last day
with no scheduled time to end.

1426
01:28:47,363 --> 01:28:50,033
After watching defense
and prosecution battle,

1427
01:28:50,116 --> 01:28:54,829
the jury will gather at the secret room
with the judge, prosecutor, and attorneys.

1428
01:28:56,622 --> 01:28:58,708
The people
who were outside of the courthouse,

1429
01:28:58,791 --> 01:29:02,795
and were waiting to listen to the judge
casting the sentence on the microphone

1430
01:29:02,879 --> 01:29:04,964
wouldn't react well if they got absolved.

1431
01:29:06,341 --> 01:29:10,261
And then the judge had the nerve
to place several loud speakers

1432
01:29:11,220 --> 01:29:12,513
out on the street

1433
01:29:13,890 --> 01:29:16,100
just to read a sentence out loud.

1434
01:29:17,393 --> 01:29:21,439
And a sentence which was,
at the very least, aggressive.

1435
01:29:21,522 --> 01:29:26,778
A hostile sentence against
those human beings whom he was judging.

1436
01:29:26,861 --> 01:29:28,071
He's a judge!

1437
01:29:30,448 --> 01:29:34,827
We're expecting the jury's decision
to be announced through a sound system

1438
01:29:35,620 --> 01:29:39,082
so that the people who are standing here
outside the courthouse

1439
01:29:39,165 --> 01:29:41,459
may hear the sentence in real time

1440
01:29:42,251 --> 01:29:46,047
as Judge Maurício Fossen
is reading it inside the courtroom.

1441
01:29:48,424 --> 01:29:50,593
Would the press
read my sentence live?

1442
01:29:50,676 --> 01:29:52,470
Would they present
their own version of it?

1443
01:29:52,553 --> 01:29:54,806
So each news channel could come up
with a different version

1444
01:29:54,889 --> 01:29:56,391
of what was said in the sentence.

1445
01:29:56,474 --> 01:29:58,726
All of that was taken into consideration.

1446
01:30:00,603 --> 01:30:03,773
This is a surprising sight.
People are refusing to leave.

1447
01:30:04,524 --> 01:30:07,151
People were emotionally involved
in this whole thing.

1448
01:30:07,235 --> 01:30:10,279
The whole of Brazil and I
were waiting for that decision.

1449
01:30:11,739 --> 01:30:13,324
Then, during the last few moments,

1450
01:30:13,408 --> 01:30:15,034
I was with my husband.

1451
01:30:15,118 --> 01:30:18,871
I was holding his arm
and holding his hands just like this,

1452
01:30:19,580 --> 01:30:21,082
and we were waiting for the sentence.

1453
01:30:22,041 --> 01:30:24,544
The silence was nerve-racking.

1454
01:30:30,091 --> 01:30:33,928
When the judge, Maurício Fossen,
announced they were guilty,

1455
01:30:34,011 --> 01:30:36,889
I'm not sure how I didn't break
my husband's hand.

1456
01:30:38,724 --> 01:30:41,102
They are sentenced
to the following:

1457
01:30:41,185 --> 01:30:43,229
Alexandre Alves Nardoni

1458
01:30:43,312 --> 01:30:46,732
is sentenced to spend 31 years,
one month, and ten days in jail

1459
01:30:46,816 --> 01:30:48,985
for the practice
of homicide against a minor,

1460
01:30:49,777 --> 01:30:54,365
to a triple degree, aggravated by the fact
that the victim was his daughter.

1461
01:30:54,866 --> 01:30:57,410
Eight months of arrest
for procedural fraud.

1462
01:30:57,994 --> 01:31:01,038
Anna Carolina Trotta Peixoto Jatobá

1463
01:31:01,122 --> 01:31:04,625
is sentenced to spend 26 years,
and eight months in jail

1464
01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:08,004
for homicide against a minor,
to a triple degree.

1465
01:31:09,088 --> 01:31:12,425
I cried, and I cried, and I cried
because that was…

1466
01:31:14,427 --> 01:31:17,972
the answer. It was the justice
I had sought for so long.

1467
01:31:20,558 --> 01:31:22,518
A murderer's conviction

1468
01:31:22,602 --> 01:31:26,272
announced by Judge Maurício Fossen
at Santana Courthouse

1469
01:31:26,355 --> 01:31:29,901
brought relief and tranquility
to an outraged population.

1470
01:31:33,613 --> 01:31:35,948
I watched the sentence live on TV.

1471
01:31:36,032 --> 01:31:37,450
They showed it on TV.

1472
01:31:39,494 --> 01:31:41,829
It reminded me of a FIFA World Cup final.

1473
01:31:56,594 --> 01:31:59,597
Isabella! Isabella!

1474
01:32:01,891 --> 01:32:02,767
No!

1475
01:32:04,185 --> 01:32:06,812
It wasn't a moment to celebrate.

1476
01:32:06,896 --> 01:32:10,274
I just wanted justice to be done.
And it was.

1477
01:32:16,572 --> 01:32:18,783
The sentence
of 31 years for him

1478
01:32:18,866 --> 01:32:22,370
and 26 years for her
pleased those who watched the trial.

1479
01:32:23,079 --> 01:32:25,414
That inspires hope
in all of us Brazilians.

1480
01:32:25,498 --> 01:32:27,416
Hope and trust in our justice system.

1481
01:32:27,500 --> 01:32:29,961
It's the least they could do
for the mother.

1482
01:32:30,044 --> 01:32:32,672
I love it! My soul is at peace.

1483
01:32:43,307 --> 01:32:44,725
Murderers!

1484
01:32:48,563 --> 01:32:50,898
While the crowd
was screaming out there,

1485
01:32:51,607 --> 01:32:56,904
the sad silence inside the courtroom
was absolutely deafening.

1486
01:32:58,197 --> 01:33:00,199
The atmosphere was heavy.

1487
01:33:00,283 --> 01:33:02,034
It was hard to breathe

1488
01:33:02,994 --> 01:33:05,788
because who had really won here?

1489
01:33:06,455 --> 01:33:07,999
Nobody celebrated.

1490
01:33:08,541 --> 01:33:09,667
Nobody.

1491
01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:11,127
Nobody smiled.

1492
01:33:31,188 --> 01:33:33,024
Their sentence was given two years ago.

1493
01:33:33,107 --> 01:33:36,193
Do you believe
the appeal will annul the trial?

1494
01:33:36,736 --> 01:33:38,904
It's hard to believe
in anything in this country.

1495
01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:40,531
But I'll keep on believing.

1496
01:33:48,331 --> 01:33:50,333
So this couple
has three children,

1497
01:33:50,416 --> 01:33:53,419
two of whom are their own,
and one belongs to the father.

1498
01:33:53,502 --> 01:33:54,754
They have a peaceful life

1499
01:33:54,837 --> 01:33:58,841
as seen in the videos of them
strolling through the parks and whatnot.

1500
01:33:58,924 --> 01:34:02,094
Then one day,
they arrive home, they go upstairs,

1501
01:34:02,178 --> 01:34:04,513
they fight, they hit one of the kids,

1502
01:34:05,306 --> 01:34:08,809
they use a pair of scissors
to cut a hole in the safety net,

1503
01:34:11,020 --> 01:34:13,814
and they throw the daughter
out of the window.

1504
01:34:13,898 --> 01:34:16,859
That was considered
an absolutely truthful story.

1505
01:34:18,444 --> 01:34:21,947
They convicted a couple
to over 30 years of prison for him,

1506
01:34:22,031 --> 01:34:23,449
and 26 for her,

1507
01:34:23,532 --> 01:34:25,993
but they can't determine who did what.

1508
01:34:27,495 --> 01:34:29,288
There are no doubts in my mind

1509
01:34:29,372 --> 01:34:32,333
that the story we heard
did not actually happen.

1510
01:34:32,416 --> 01:34:33,959
No shadow of a doubt.

1511
01:34:40,049 --> 01:34:43,761
I'm going to say this today,
and you may call me out in a few years.

1512
01:34:43,844 --> 01:34:47,473
That this is the first and only trial
for the Isabella Nardoni case.

1513
01:34:47,556 --> 01:34:50,768
There will not be another trial
pertaining to this case.

1514
01:34:54,271 --> 01:35:00,820
SINCE 2008, ALEXANDRE NARDONI
AND ANNA CAROLINA JATOBÁ REMAIN IN PRISON

1515
01:35:00,903 --> 01:35:05,908
THEY DENY THEY COMMITTED THE CRIME

1516
01:35:10,830 --> 01:35:13,290
If they were keeping a lie
up to this point,

1517
01:35:13,374 --> 01:35:15,793
one can't help but wonder
if the husband and the wife

1518
01:35:17,586 --> 01:35:20,923
had some sort of agreement
that allowed them to endure their arrest

1519
01:35:21,006 --> 01:35:24,385
and the ensuing impact
on their entire family

1520
01:35:24,468 --> 01:35:28,806
while still maintaining their allegations
of innocence towards the crime.

1521
01:35:37,857 --> 01:35:40,818
I suppose there was
a certain expectation among people

1522
01:35:40,901 --> 01:35:42,570
that either the father or the stepmother

1523
01:35:42,653 --> 01:35:46,407
would eventually confess
and describe what had actually happened.

1524
01:35:48,784 --> 01:35:51,370
They want
the shortest sentence they can get.

1525
01:35:51,454 --> 01:35:53,456
I mean, they're a young couple.

1526
01:35:53,539 --> 01:35:56,375
They still have a life to live
once they get out.

1527
01:36:05,134 --> 01:36:06,552
What's left of that man?

1528
01:36:06,635 --> 01:36:10,097
When he leaves jail, he'll take a look
in the mirror and say, "I'm a murderer?"

1529
01:36:10,181 --> 01:36:11,515
"I killed my daughter?"

1530
01:36:12,892 --> 01:36:16,771
How can he look his son in the eye
and say, "Your dad killed your sister"?

1531
01:36:18,272 --> 01:36:20,691
Maybe the least dramatic way
to go about it

1532
01:36:20,775 --> 01:36:24,153
is to consider yourself
a victim of a huge tragedy,

1533
01:36:24,820 --> 01:36:26,238
of a legal mistake.

1534
01:36:28,449 --> 01:36:31,243
To look at it like you're paying
for something you didn't do.

1535
01:36:31,327 --> 01:36:33,078
Because when you tell yourself that,

1536
01:36:33,162 --> 01:36:36,874
you give yourself strength to move forward
without looking back.

1537
01:36:38,793 --> 01:36:41,212
If, in fact, they are guilty,
as the sentence shows,

1538
01:36:41,295 --> 01:36:44,423
it's understandable
that they would refrain from confessing.

1539
01:36:46,884 --> 01:36:51,055
Because confessing would mean losing
any remaining sympathy they might have.

1540
01:36:51,138 --> 01:36:55,351
The doubt, you know? The remaining doubt
if they were victims of an injustice.

1541
01:36:59,230 --> 01:37:00,898
They are both guilty,

1542
01:37:00,981 --> 01:37:03,400
even if their guilt lies in their silence.

1543
01:37:03,901 --> 01:37:06,278
It is highly unlikely
for such a crime to have occurred

1544
01:37:06,362 --> 01:37:07,905
without their involvement.

1545
01:37:07,988 --> 01:37:11,742
Especially considering how this story
suggests their complicity.

1546
01:37:16,288 --> 01:37:19,625
I've never seen,
in the history of criminology,

1547
01:37:19,708 --> 01:37:24,505
a couple who was convicted,
then thrown in jail for over ten years,

1548
01:37:26,340 --> 01:37:29,885
and after all these years,
kept their story about being innocent

1549
01:37:29,969 --> 01:37:32,096
and who are still together as a couple.

1550
01:37:32,805 --> 01:37:36,684
It is obvious that they both would've
had the opportunity to be released

1551
01:37:37,309 --> 01:37:39,270
if one had accused the other.

1552
01:37:46,068 --> 01:37:47,903
We're left with a question.

1553
01:37:49,446 --> 01:37:53,492
Would the stepmother accept paying
for something she didn't do?

1554
01:38:03,252 --> 01:38:07,798
I ran into Jatobá,
Anna's father, at the courthouse.

1555
01:38:09,216 --> 01:38:14,722
I ran into him in the hall, and I said,
"Mr. Jatobá, tell her to confess."

1556
01:38:15,556 --> 01:38:17,349
"Tell her to confess."

1557
01:38:17,433 --> 01:38:21,478
He said, "Mrs. Rosa,
I told her, but they won't let her."

1558
01:38:21,562 --> 01:38:22,688
"They won't let her."

1559
01:38:22,771 --> 01:38:26,358
He told me that.
I heard it with this very ear.

1560
01:38:33,657 --> 01:38:37,202
Financial abuse
is a significant aspect in this case.

1561
01:38:38,871 --> 01:38:42,333
It's not something you hear about often,
but it does exist.

1562
01:38:42,416 --> 01:38:46,211
This woman's decisions
are subject to financial control,

1563
01:38:46,295 --> 01:38:51,050
where even purchasing sanitary pads
requires seeking permission and funds.

1564
01:38:51,133 --> 01:38:54,136
The lack of independence
in acquiring basic necessities

1565
01:38:54,219 --> 01:38:56,096
is degrading for any woman.

1566
01:38:56,180 --> 01:38:58,515
Without receiving financial support,

1567
01:38:59,516 --> 01:39:02,645
she wouldn't even have the means
to afford a private attorney

1568
01:39:04,063 --> 01:39:06,607
or to provide for her children's welfare.

1569
01:39:06,690 --> 01:39:08,609
The decision
to remain together as a couple

1570
01:39:08,692 --> 01:39:11,028
involves multiple complex factors.

1571
01:39:11,695 --> 01:39:14,490
Nobody is naive enough
to think that after 14 years,

1572
01:39:14,573 --> 01:39:16,951
they're still living
in a romantic fairy tale.

1573
01:39:17,868 --> 01:39:23,958
SINCE 2022, THE COUPLE
HAS BEEN GRANTED SPECIAL FURLOUGHS,

1574
01:39:24,041 --> 01:39:30,130
INCLUDING ON MOTHER'S DAY
AND FATHER'S DAY.

1575
01:39:39,473 --> 01:39:43,185
After Isabella passed away,
and after the trial,

1576
01:39:43,268 --> 01:39:45,938
I really needed a fresh start to my life.

1577
01:39:49,316 --> 01:39:52,653
I thank God I had the opportunity
to meet my current husband,

1578
01:39:52,736 --> 01:39:54,113
an amazing person.

1579
01:39:56,323 --> 01:39:57,741
He embraced my story.

1580
01:39:59,994 --> 01:40:01,662
He got into a relationship with me

1581
01:40:01,745 --> 01:40:04,456
knowing from the start
that it wouldn't be easy.

1582
01:40:05,582 --> 01:40:07,418
And I rebuilt my life with him.

1583
01:40:09,044 --> 01:40:10,087
With him,

1584
01:40:12,715 --> 01:40:15,384
I experienced the joy
of becoming a mother once more.

1585
01:40:16,260 --> 01:40:18,762
Which is something I've always dreamed of.

1586
01:40:24,685 --> 01:40:26,812
I've always wanted
to become a mother again.

1587
01:40:26,895 --> 01:40:28,188
It was a goal of mine.

1588
01:40:28,272 --> 01:40:30,649
And thankfully,
I was able to fulfill that goal.

1589
01:40:35,529 --> 01:40:38,157
It was an emotionally
challenging pregnancy.

1590
01:40:39,742 --> 01:40:44,121
Because as soon as I got pregnant again,
everything started to surface once more.

1591
01:40:48,667 --> 01:40:50,252
But after being pregnant with Miguel,

1592
01:40:50,335 --> 01:40:54,089
I was pregnant with Maria Fernanda,
and that was a little easier.

1593
01:40:57,468 --> 01:40:58,635
Today,

1594
01:41:00,512 --> 01:41:02,723
I'm not an overprotective mom.

1595
01:41:02,806 --> 01:41:04,892
I never tried to hide it from them.

1596
01:41:05,684 --> 01:41:08,020
They don't carry this burden of being…

1597
01:41:11,565 --> 01:41:14,443
the siblings of someone
who suffered so much.

1598
01:41:19,073 --> 01:41:22,076
For a long time,
I'd go to bed thinking that,

1599
01:41:24,203 --> 01:41:27,206
"I want us to meet again,
no matter where."

1600
01:41:28,916 --> 01:41:31,293
"Where ever you are, I want us to meet."

1601
01:41:34,088 --> 01:41:36,215
"I promised you something,
and I delivered it."

1602
01:41:37,257 --> 01:41:38,967
"Here's where we start anew."

1603
01:41:48,143 --> 01:41:54,066
THE NARDONI AND JATOBÁ FAMILIES REFUSED
TO GIVE AN INTERVIEW FOR THIS DOCUMENTARY

1604
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:03,659
BASED ON THE BOOKS BY ILANA CASOY
AND ROGÉRIO PAGNAN