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♪ I'm going home, oh, yes ♪
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♪ I'm going home,
oh, yes ♪
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♪ I'm going home, Lord, Lord ♪
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♪ I'm going home ♪
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♪ I'm going home, Lord, Lord ♪
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♪ I'm going home ♪
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♪ My baby sister's crying ♪
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♪ My baby sister's
crying ♪
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♪ Brother, come home, Lord, Lord ♪
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♪ Brother, come home,
brother, come home ♪
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♪ Lord, Lord, brother, come home ♪
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♪ I'm going home, oh, yes ♪
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♪ I'm going home,
oh, yes ♪
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♪ I'm going home, Lord, Lord ♪
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{\an8}♪ I'm going home, I'm going home ♪
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{\an8}♪ Lord, Lord, I'm going home ♪
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{\an8}♪ My own mother's crying,
my own mother's crying ♪
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♪ Come on home, Lord, Lord ♪
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♪ Come on home, come on home ♪
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♪ Lord, Lord, come on home ♪
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♪ I'm going home, oh, yes ♪
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♪ I'm going home,
oh, yes ♪
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♪ I'm going home, Lord, Lord ♪
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♪ I'm going home. ♪
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GERTRUDE: My daddy,
the day before he died, he told me,
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he said, "Gertrude,
I won't be with you all long."
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{\an8}He said, "And whatever you do,
don't let the white man have my land."
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FAMILY:
♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
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♪ Happy birthday to you ♪
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- ♪ Happy birthday, dear Grandma ♪
- ♪ Happy birthday, dear Gertrude ♪
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{\an8}♪ Happy birthday to you. ♪
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GRANDDAUGHTER:
Grandma, I just want to say we love you.
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It's been a blessing to have you here
for 95 years,
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and we hope to have you many, many more.
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I got to speak for the grandkids,
for all you grandkids. -Yeah.
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The only thing I can say is,
we lived the best life
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- in Merrimon, all because of Grandma.
- Yes. Amen.
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I can't speak enough
on how I thank my Lord and Savior
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for being from Merrimon,
from the bottom, from Silver Dollar Road.
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We didn't have a whole bunch of money,
but we have plenty of love.
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We have plenty of family.
Look at the people that turned out.
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You are our queen.
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You are the mother and the father.
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Mother, you have been a true example of
what a single mother can do and be
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if she set that goal.
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Mother, you worked so hard
in your 95 years of life,
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preparing flowers and vegetables
for Fridays.
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Five o'clock in the evenings,
you was in the fields.
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When the alarm went off
on Saturday mornings,
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you was up at 4:00 to go to
that home extensions in Morehead City.
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♪ ♪
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{\an8}MAMIE: When I was a little girl
and growing up here on Silver Dollar Road,
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{\an8}I like thinking about those days
'cause it was so innocent.
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{\an8}It was so magical.
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You just felt free.
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You felt happy, and you felt love.
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It was like a village, you know.
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You was free to roam and play,
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and you had the water.
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And going to the water,
for me, was magical.
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My uncles drank, and they were always...
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When they got together,
they would talk about...
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it was a mermaid to the water,
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and, at a certain time,
you would hear the mermaid singing.
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And she would come up and she would shake
her hair and go back down in the water,
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and we would sit and we would listen.
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And we knew Uncle Melvin lied, you know.
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Ain't no mermaid out there and stuff.
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But, as a little girl,
it was just so magical.
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KIM:
I lived in New Orleans,
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and we would come down every summer.
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{\an8}And it was almost like two weeks
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{\an8}before we knew it was time
to go back to New Orleans,
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{\an8}the depression would sit in.
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{\an8}Oh, we'd cry 'cause we didn't want
that Friday to come
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{\an8}when Mom and Dad was coming to get us.
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We didn't want to go.
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It was just the nostalgia of
just having that freedom.
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We walked around in our bare feet
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from this aunt's house
to that aunt's house to cousins' houses.
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And, "Can you take us swimming today?
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'Cause Grandma said we can't go down
unless we have an adult."
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We had our own beach.
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My uncles would bring their boats
to the pier,
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and we'd run up, help them offload shrimp
and fish and crabs.
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And it was a good time...
Music, dancing, barbecues,
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concerts or local churches
just putting on gospel concerts
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and baptisms in the water.
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Being in the sun, the sand,
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being stung by sting rays and running out.
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(laughs): And putting sand on you,
just trying to get the stinging off.
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And it was just amazing.
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It was amazing.
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I did go to the market with Grandma
to help out.
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Grandma was very well respected.
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And she had a lot of clientele
when it came down
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to the produce and the seafood
that she sold.
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Technically, she was probably considered
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one of the richest Black women
in the community,
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because their property...
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was so, um, valuable.
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And not valuable to us
from a monetary standpoint
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but valuable to us because of the history,
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you know, and the beauty of it.
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{\an8}We're, uh, at the cemetery next to, uh,
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{\an8}our family church, Reels, uh, Chapel.
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This is, uh, what I refer to
as "cemetery number three."
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Number one is, um...
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It's about 200 yards to my left.
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And, uh, that was the one that's kind of
described in old documentation
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as "the first Black cemetery."
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The second cemetery is
at an elevated site.
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This, uh, gravestone here,
this is Elijah Reels,
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the first owner of the property.
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Him and Suddie Anne acquired the property
in, uh, November 1911.
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He, uh, he was born in 1866,
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and that was during slavery time.
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♪ A working man ♪
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("Working Man Blues" by Floyd Council
playing)
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♪ Ain't nothing but a dog ♪
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♪ A working man ♪
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♪ Ain't nothing but a dog ♪
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♪ When he works hard all the week ♪
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♪ Payday, his woman wants it all ♪
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♪ I came home this morning ♪
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♪ 'Tween 9:30 and 10:00 ♪
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♪ When I got home this morning ♪
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♪ Between 9:30 and 10:00 ♪
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(whirring)
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♪ When I found that old backbiter ♪
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♪ Well, sitting back in my den ♪
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(glass shatters)
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- ♪ Babe, I feel like snapping ♪
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♪ My pistol in your face ♪
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- ♪ Hey ♪
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♪ My pistol in your face ♪
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♪ And some low-down undertaker ♪
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♪ Carry you to your resting place ♪
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- ♪ The working man ♪
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♪ Ought to come ahead of time ♪
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{\an8}♪ Hey ♪
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{\an8}♪ Ought to come ahead of time. ♪
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KIM: Elijah Reels was
my great-great-grandfather.
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He farmed the property,
had a family upon the property.
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{\an8}And unfortunately, in 1939,
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{\an8}he lost the property due to back taxes.
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{\an8}His son, Mitchell Reels,
then purchased the property
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{\an8}in 1944 at the courthouse doors
due to back taxes.
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{\an8}Unfortunately in 1970,
Mitchell died without a living will,
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{\an8}and the property then became
the heirs of Mitchell Reels.
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{\an8}And that's when
all our legal problems started.
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{\an8}Heirs' property is property that has been
left to an onslaught of family members.
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{\an8}So there was a document that was conveyed
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{\an8}that my grandmother
and her siblings did, in fact,
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{\an8}own the 65 acres after a court proceeding.
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So it was ruled that the 65 acres
did belong to the Mitchell Reels' heirs.
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♪ ♪
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MAMIE: Oh, the night that Mitchell died...
Can I just call him Papa?...
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It was a pretty night out.
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Someone came to the house
and told my mother Papa had sent for her.
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Then my mother went to his house.
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{\an8}He was saying he needed to go
to the hospital,
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{\an8}'cause he was sick,
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{\an8}and he was sick that he didn't know
if he would be coming back home.
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And it was some things he wanted to
discuss with her and wanted her to do.
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I remember my mother precisely asking him,
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"Well, Papa, why would you want...
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me to do these things when you have sons?"
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He said, "Because I know
you will make sure they happen.
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I know I can depend on you."
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♪ ♪
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MELVIN: He said, "You stick
with your mother, with this land."
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{\an8}'Cause he knew
Mother was the strongest one.
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{\an8}And she did... He knew
she would do what she got to do
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{\an8}to hold... (stammers)
to hold on to this land.
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♪ Lord, I'm walkin' and walkin' ♪
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("Walkin' Night and Day"
by Big Boy Henry playing)
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CLASSIE:
I have all the memories, all the memories.
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Because it's no place on this property
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that I haven't been.
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{\an8}I know where every inch of it is at.
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{\an8}Because this was my travel
when I was growing up.
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CHARLES:
My heart is really into this land.
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Whenever I had a break
during the military,
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I would always come back down here
for peace and quiet.
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{\an8}I can go down to the Adams Creek there
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{\an8}and sit there and reflect
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{\an8}not only my past, as growing up
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down here, but, uh,
anything that I had on my mind.
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You know, I-I'd look out
on the water and say,
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"Hey," I'd tell myself,
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"It could be worse."
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{\an8}KIM: From that point, Shedrick,
which is Mitchell's brother,
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{\an8}intervenes with a deed from New Jersey.
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{\an8}He comes back down, has it registered
in our court... local court...
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{\an8}registered deeds as a personal property
that he currently owns,
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{\an8}unbeknown to the family.
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And shortly thereafter,
we start finding out that
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there's word of the property
being sold to someone else
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that the family had no knowledge of.
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So during that time frame, my grandmother,
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who's made
the administrator of the property,
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is brought into the fold.
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{\an8}And she's then in charge of
getting someone to represent the family,
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{\an8}um, to show that this property, in fact,
is Mitchell Reels' heirs' property
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{\an8}and not Shedrick's property.
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So, the 13.25 acres was
the property that was in dispute.
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{\an8}That was the part of the property
that the developers wanted,
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{\an8}prime real estate, already developed,
waterfront property.
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{\an8}That was also where my uncles resided.
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{\an8}And that was what was needed
from the developers
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{\an8}because it's a beautiful
piece of property, it's prime real estate.
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♪ ♪
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{\an8}This is 200 years old up here.
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This graveyard up here.
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That's right...
I imagine this path been here
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over a hundred and some years,
might be 200.
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So, Elijah Reels owned another 40 acres...
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owned another 40 acres
right on that going... leave the cemetery
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and go back towards that valley.
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That's the way they used to walk
down through here to get to here.
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He used to leave that,
had a plantation back there, 40 acres.
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{\an8}And he would leave that and walk this path
and come out to the water right here.
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{\an8}This is the path.
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{\an8}We still own the...
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{\an8}You-you still own that 65 acre.
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This is still the 65 acres
from the water back.
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And then we got
another 45 acres behind that.
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That's the one
that takes you to Dumpling Creek.
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Yeah, all of this here is
the Reels' property.
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Going up on this hill.
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These were graves right here.
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{\an8}These were graves,
right here is a headstone.
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{\an8}Some of these graves up here,
you can't see.
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Take this... take the one here.
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It kind of growed in the roots.
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He was born 1946.
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The water right behind us
is called Dumpling creek.
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That's Dumpling Creek right back there.
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See?
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We're surrounded with water.
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And if we'd have kept right on going
down there behind the cemetery,
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we would come to
a-a running stream of water.
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So we're surrounded with water.
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♪ ♪
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KIM:
But all of a sudden,
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I can recall on, like, Sunday mornings,
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prior to us getting ready for church
or whatever.
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It was always a small meeting
in Grandma's house,
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early in the morning,
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because something was going on,
something was brewing,
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which was... at that time,
they started getting notifications
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that the property was an issue.
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Someone was claiming ownership
to the property.
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So we as children knew something was
going on, but we didn't know what it was.
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But as an adult,
I slowly started to find out
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that this is major, this is serious.
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(critters chittering)
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{\an8}ANITA EARLS: Even though the family had
previously themselves gone to court
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{\an8}to establish that they properly
and legally owned this land,
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{\an8}a later proceeding, um, um,
brought by a different family member,
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and then someone who bought the land
from that family member,
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to-to say that they own the land, um,
had resulted in an order
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that-that was not, um...
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or a settlement, if you will,
um, that the family didn't agree to.
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So by the time it came to me,
the family were defendants.
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They were the ones being sued.
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{\an8}And, um, the plaintiffs,
the Adams Creek Associates company,
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{\an8}were claiming that the family was
trespassing on their own land.
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{\an8}♪ ♪
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{\an8}MAMIE: Melvin had always been
like a father figure
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{\an8}in the family, and what he thought
and what he said meant a lot.
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Melvin always had this fashion for cars,
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and of course women.
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He didn't care what color they was.
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He loved to dress, and he fished
and he made money,
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and he worked with a guy
who had a boat and he made money.
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♪ ♪
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MELVIN:
I've been fishing down there for 53 years.
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I got my commercial license when I was 16,
and I've been fishing there all my life.
290
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That's where I worked at.
291
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All down this water.
292
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I helped to put my-my sisters
and brothers through school,
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by me working that water.
294
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When I was 14, 15,
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I was making sometimes
$1,000 a week on that water.
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I couldn't go to school
like I wanted because... (stammers)
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I had to make sure
that when they'd go to school,
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that they would dress nice, had on
new clothes, they'd start school in it.
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♪ ♪
300
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So that's my life.
301
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That's what I do. I do what I do.
302
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(birds squawking)
303
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I'm a shrimper. I'm a fisherman.
304
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I'm a crabber.
305
00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:14,881
So it's-it's joy to me.
306
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I'm peaceful when I'm on the water.
307
00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:24,223
(seagulls chattering)
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00:20:30,855 --> 00:20:33,316
KIM:
Uncle Melvin, he was that person
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that always had, financially, advice.
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He was the uncle
that was just charismatic.
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And he was always trying to make ways
in the community
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to keep us, um... keep things going.
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♪ Carolina girls ♪
314
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("Carolina Girls" by Chairmen of the Board
& General Johnson playing)
315
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- ♪ Best in the world ♪
- ♪ Carolina girls ♪
316
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♪ You're so fine, girl,
you're one of a kind ♪
317
00:21:02,637 --> 00:21:04,931
♪ Sweet Carolina girls ♪
318
00:21:05,014 --> 00:21:08,935
- ♪ Carolina girls ♪
- ♪ Carolina girls ♪
319
00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:13,106
- ♪ Sweet Southern pearls ♪
- ♪ Carolina girls ♪
320
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♪ You're sure enough tough ♪
321
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♪ Girl, I can't get enough... ♪
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YVONNE:
Growing up in Beaufort,
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we really didn't have access
to the area for swimming.
324
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(fading):
♪ I love the way you talk... ♪
325
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And so my dad,
he would always take us to Merrimon.
326
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{\an8}We didn't refer to it as Merrimon then.
327
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{\an8}We referred to it as Silver Dollar.
328
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And-and most of the people around here
329
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went down to the Silver Dollar,
330
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and they were a welcoming community.
331
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And most of the time, you didn't have...
332
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whites coming in to that community.
333
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Uh, so that was important, um...
334
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and so you did, uh, feel safe.
335
00:21:58,109 --> 00:22:01,195
(lively chatter, laughter)
336
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MAMIE:
It was just the one place you could go,
337
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and you wasn't worried about
338
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being targeted by the law,
339
00:22:10,288 --> 00:22:13,750
and you didn't have to feel like...
340
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you were being harassed.
341
00:22:17,211 --> 00:22:18,296
You could just relax.
342
00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:20,381
- (insects trilling)
- ♪ ♪
343
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(critters chittering)
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KIM:
Uncle Licurtis is just a humble person.
345
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So Uncle Licurtis was always a brickmason.
346
00:22:47,784 --> 00:22:49,786
He worked with his hands.
347
00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:52,622
He's very lovable. He likes to sing.
348
00:22:52,705 --> 00:22:55,750
He likes to hum. He likes to eat.
349
00:22:55,833 --> 00:23:00,171
Um, he's just that uncle
that everybody loves.
350
00:23:01,714 --> 00:23:03,716
{\an8}MAMIE:
Me and Licurtis were close.
351
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,843
{\an8}We grew up in the house together.
352
00:23:06,844 --> 00:23:10,139
So we did a lot of things together,
like partying.
353
00:23:10,223 --> 00:23:13,392
- (lively chatter, laughter)
- ("Daddy Cool" by Boney M. playing)
354
00:23:13,476 --> 00:23:16,479
I don't know who told him he could dance.
355
00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:17,814
(laughs):
He couldn't dance.
356
00:23:19,107 --> 00:23:22,151
He just had this-this happy-go...
357
00:23:22,235 --> 00:23:24,237
He was just a happy-go-lucky person.
358
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,406
He loved people
and he would laugh and joke,
359
00:23:27,490 --> 00:23:32,954
and so he was the person that...
To really have a good time with.
360
00:23:33,037 --> 00:23:36,124
♪ She's crazy like a fool ♪
361
00:23:36,207 --> 00:23:37,542
♪ Wild about Daddy Cool... ♪
362
00:23:37,625 --> 00:23:42,672
{\an8}First time I heard about Fantasy Island,
I was like, "Where is Fantasy Island?"
363
00:23:42,755 --> 00:23:44,924
{\an8}(stammers) I heard it on the radio.
364
00:23:45,216 --> 00:23:48,761
Later on in the announcement,
they said "down in Merrimon."
365
00:23:48,845 --> 00:23:50,513
I said, "Down in Merrimon?"
366
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:53,558
They said, "To the old Silver Dollar,"
you know.
367
00:23:53,641 --> 00:23:55,726
And I said,
"Oh, goodness, they talking about..."
368
00:23:55,810 --> 00:23:58,938
And then that's when
I start asking around about it.
369
00:23:59,021 --> 00:24:01,649
And they said, "Yeah,
they opened up a little club down there,"
370
00:24:01,732 --> 00:24:04,318
that Melvin was running, you know,
and it was called...
371
00:24:04,402 --> 00:24:05,820
And people were coming.
372
00:24:05,903 --> 00:24:07,905
("Put Your Hands Together"
by The O'Jays playing)
373
00:24:07,989 --> 00:24:09,657
♪ ♪
374
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:13,327
{\an8}MAMIE:
Every season, it was something different.
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{\an8}One year, we had the Soul Train.
376
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:19,458
We had the train painted on the floor
with the tracks.
377
00:24:19,542 --> 00:24:22,128
And you go down the Soul Train line.
378
00:24:22,211 --> 00:24:26,090
I remember a lot of the Marines
from Cherry Point would come down here.
379
00:24:29,302 --> 00:24:31,387
LICURTIS:
Oh, we had a party, buddy.
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00:24:31,470 --> 00:24:33,848
{\an8}From all the way around,
all the way from Liberty City,
381
00:24:33,931 --> 00:24:36,309
{\an8}come down and join us.
382
00:24:36,392 --> 00:24:38,227
{\an8}They were Black and white.
383
00:24:38,311 --> 00:24:40,855
And, you know, every weekend, we jammed.
384
00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:43,191
♪ Day to come, yeah ♪
385
00:24:43,274 --> 00:24:46,319
♪ We got to put our forces together ♪
386
00:24:46,402 --> 00:24:48,988
♪ Sing a song so loud, so fair... ♪
387
00:24:49,071 --> 00:24:52,116
We had a guy coming in
with the Greyhound bus, a deejay.
388
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,578
And he would come in every day,
that dee... that deejay...
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00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:59,957
The people followed the bus behind him
and load this beach up.
390
00:25:01,751 --> 00:25:05,046
I would get different groups
to come in and play on the beach,
391
00:25:05,129 --> 00:25:07,590
and we had... we just had fun.
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00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:09,675
♪ ♪
393
00:25:11,886 --> 00:25:13,888
(birds chirping)
394
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,228
♪ ♪
395
00:25:24,649 --> 00:25:28,152
MAMIE:
By the time all of this started happening,
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00:25:28,236 --> 00:25:33,282
the surrounding area around us
was changing.
397
00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:36,494
And we could see things
that they were doing
398
00:25:36,577 --> 00:25:41,832
with marinas, boat slips, subdivision.
399
00:25:41,916 --> 00:25:45,711
So we knew this was the plan
for our community.
400
00:25:45,795 --> 00:25:50,258
And we knew we had to really stand
to save our community,
401
00:25:50,341 --> 00:25:53,511
because if all of this happened
in our community,
402
00:25:53,594 --> 00:25:56,681
we wouldn't be able to afford
the taxes here,
403
00:25:56,764 --> 00:25:59,308
because we don't have the income
404
00:25:59,392 --> 00:26:03,354
that people from other states
come here with.
405
00:26:08,609 --> 00:26:10,611
{\an8}(engine starts)
406
00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:23,332
{\an8}(engine whirring)
407
00:26:35,052 --> 00:26:37,596
MELVIN:
This didn't use to be...
408
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,725
the water didn't use to be
all the way through here.
409
00:26:40,808 --> 00:26:44,687
My mother daddy helped put
410
00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:49,275
the rest of the right-of-way through here
for this water that-that comes by.
411
00:26:49,358 --> 00:26:53,154
That's when...
They call them the intercoastals.
412
00:26:53,237 --> 00:26:57,325
So you could drive, go to Florida,
go all the way around.
413
00:26:57,408 --> 00:26:58,909
Go right on through here.
414
00:27:00,995 --> 00:27:03,998
And now, they got some homes up here.
415
00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:09,003
Oh, you know how long it would take us
to get to Sneads Ferry?
416
00:27:09,086 --> 00:27:11,356
- NATE: About five hours, six hours?
- MELVIN: No, you will...
417
00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:13,883
No, it'd take a whole day.
418
00:27:13,966 --> 00:27:18,471
You could leave Merrimon...
Say, 9:00 in the morning
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00:27:18,554 --> 00:27:21,515
and start from... back from Silver Dollar,
420
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:26,479
and it'd be 5:00 'fore we get
to Sneads Ferry that evening.
421
00:27:26,562 --> 00:27:28,773
But you can't shrimp up there in the day.
422
00:27:28,856 --> 00:27:32,109
I mean you can't shrimp at nights,
only days.
423
00:27:36,322 --> 00:27:38,741
See, down east, when I was shrimping
down there last year,
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00:27:38,824 --> 00:27:40,744
- you could only shrimp at night.
- Yeah, at night.
425
00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:42,995
- And all through the day it's just fish.
- Yeah.
426
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:45,373
Just fish, and you won't catch
no shrimps at day.
427
00:27:45,456 --> 00:27:46,933
NATE:
And then you got to work with the moon.
428
00:27:46,957 --> 00:27:48,751
MELVIN:
Yeah, you work when the moon come up.
429
00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:50,674
- NATE: You start shrimping.
- MELVIN: Shrimping.
430
00:27:53,631 --> 00:27:55,674
(crank squealing)
431
00:28:00,221 --> 00:28:02,139
(birds chirping)
432
00:28:02,223 --> 00:28:04,225
(indistinct chatter)
433
00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:10,856
(music playing faintly on speakers)
434
00:28:23,077 --> 00:28:24,995
NATE:
We good?
435
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:28,374
Here, I'm gonna put it all
in the other tank.
436
00:28:28,457 --> 00:28:30,292
- MELVIN: In the other side?
- NATE: Yeah.
437
00:28:34,171 --> 00:28:37,007
♪ ♪
438
00:28:38,092 --> 00:28:40,010
NATE:
That's a shrimp boat there, ain't it?
439
00:28:40,094 --> 00:28:42,263
Look like it.
440
00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:44,306
Like she's coming towards us.
441
00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:48,561
(Melvin chuckles, mutters)
442
00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:51,480
♪ ♪
443
00:29:07,329 --> 00:29:09,331
(motor rattling)
444
00:29:18,382 --> 00:29:20,885
♪ ♪
445
00:29:26,223 --> 00:29:28,684
NATE: I think I'm-a let my dad drive,
or you want to drive?
446
00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:31,121
- Nah, I'm-I'm-a let you do everything.
- I'm-a let him drive.
447
00:29:31,145 --> 00:29:33,481
It's been a long time
since I've been down through here.
448
00:29:33,564 --> 00:29:35,125
I got to let my dad drive.
I need some air.
449
00:29:35,149 --> 00:29:37,193
Let-let Roderick drive.
450
00:29:37,276 --> 00:29:39,195
NATE:
Hey, Dad!
451
00:29:40,321 --> 00:29:42,114
Hey, you want to drive for a minute?
452
00:29:42,198 --> 00:29:43,991
I need a break. I'm hot.
453
00:29:44,074 --> 00:29:46,160
I told him...
just explained to him, like...
454
00:29:46,243 --> 00:29:48,037
- Let me get it, Melvin.
- Yeah.
455
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,747
No, yeah, I'd rather you take it.
456
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:52,142
- NATE: You said you were explaining what?
- MELVIN: I told you.
457
00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:54,210
I was out there
putting the nets out one day,
458
00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:57,546
and I had pretty near alone there
with me one night... one morning.
459
00:29:57,630 --> 00:30:01,759
And this boat about this size
kept running across the bow of it.
460
00:30:01,842 --> 00:30:04,595
So I went in there and put 'em
to the floor, she blew black smoke,
461
00:30:04,678 --> 00:30:06,931
before she was turning, I couldn't get it.
462
00:30:07,014 --> 00:30:08,390
He said, "Get out of here!"
463
00:30:08,474 --> 00:30:11,477
I said, "I've been trying to run over you
for the last ten minutes.
464
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,896
Go back across there again,
I might run over you."
465
00:30:13,979 --> 00:30:15,606
(laughter)
466
00:30:15,689 --> 00:30:17,525
"I'll push you to the bottom."
467
00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:20,945
I couldn't... I...
468
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,198
♪ ♪
469
00:30:32,122 --> 00:30:34,124
(typing)
470
00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:38,754
(whirring)
471
00:30:39,755 --> 00:30:41,632
(typing)
472
00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:46,845
(whirrs)
473
00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:50,516
(whirring)
474
00:30:57,022 --> 00:30:59,275
This case was up and down. So I-I...
475
00:30:59,358 --> 00:31:04,613
And then when it would come back,
it would come back with more foolishness.
476
00:31:04,697 --> 00:31:08,742
And the craziest thing was
when they came down
477
00:31:08,826 --> 00:31:11,704
and put eviction notice on the houses.
478
00:31:11,787 --> 00:31:14,290
On Licurtis' and Melvin's houses.
479
00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:25,259
When this thing started heating up,
480
00:31:25,342 --> 00:31:27,136
and we knew it was getting serious,
481
00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:31,098
Melvin was getting bombarded
on a lot of jobs.
482
00:31:31,181 --> 00:31:32,975
He was losing a lot of jobs.
483
00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:35,477
People didn't want to buy his seafood,
484
00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:39,607
and he was getting threats
if he didn't get off the property.
485
00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:43,110
An attempt was made to burn
the house that he was building.
486
00:31:43,193 --> 00:31:46,864
And then, uh, somebody blew up his boat.
487
00:31:48,449 --> 00:31:50,701
And when the boat was blown up,
488
00:31:50,784 --> 00:31:54,580
he had divers coming in
to assess the damage.
489
00:31:54,663 --> 00:31:57,374
Before he really came to that conclusion,
490
00:31:57,458 --> 00:32:00,127
"Hey, yeah, my boat has been blown up."
491
00:32:01,462 --> 00:32:03,964
It was sort of crazy spooky for Melvin.
492
00:32:05,758 --> 00:32:09,053
{\an8}Melvin had done everything
the county required.
493
00:32:09,136 --> 00:32:14,350
{\an8}He had a surveyor to come in
and show ownership to the property.
494
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:19,855
He have his permits for his house
and place of business.
495
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:26,945
This is his permits from the state of
North Carolina, Alcohol Law Enforcement.
496
00:32:28,322 --> 00:32:31,825
When Melvin had the Fantasy Island opened,
497
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:36,038
he attained his beer and beverage
control permits.
498
00:32:37,831 --> 00:32:40,793
We knew we were fighting power.
499
00:32:40,876 --> 00:32:43,837
We knew we were fighting money.
500
00:32:43,921 --> 00:32:48,592
And we knew we weren't playing
with people who...
501
00:32:48,676 --> 00:32:50,552
who was taking us lightly.
502
00:32:50,636 --> 00:32:52,554
They really wanted this land.
503
00:32:52,638 --> 00:32:55,015
♪ Eli, Eli ♪
504
00:32:55,099 --> 00:32:58,018
♪ Somebody call Eli ♪
505
00:32:58,102 --> 00:33:01,188
♪ Eli, Eli... ♪
506
00:33:01,271 --> 00:33:03,190
My mother got worried.
507
00:33:03,273 --> 00:33:05,859
You knew when she was really stressed out
508
00:33:05,943 --> 00:33:10,197
because she would play
her church albums, her gospel albums.
509
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,448
She would cry all day.
510
00:33:11,532 --> 00:33:13,992
So, you come in the house
and you're like, "What's wrong?"
511
00:33:14,076 --> 00:33:17,329
You know? And she'll be like,
"Well, this land getting on my nerves.
512
00:33:17,413 --> 00:33:21,959
"The sheriff has been down here today,
and he served a paper on...
513
00:33:22,042 --> 00:33:24,586
I don't know what's that about." And...
514
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:28,590
So you would try to calm her down,
but this is just really bad.
515
00:33:28,674 --> 00:33:30,300
I don't know how to describe it.
516
00:33:30,384 --> 00:33:33,804
It's just been so hard.
517
00:33:33,887 --> 00:33:36,515
♪ Somebody call Eli... ♪
518
00:33:36,598 --> 00:33:41,061
KIM: Grandma was getting to a place
that it was starting to annoy her.
519
00:33:41,145 --> 00:33:45,524
Aunt Mamie,
who has been instrumental in all of this,
520
00:33:45,607 --> 00:33:47,401
Aunt Mamie was the lifeline.
521
00:33:47,484 --> 00:33:51,238
So she was involved
with all the writing notes
522
00:33:51,321 --> 00:33:57,035
and, you know, keeping
all the documents intact and organizing.
523
00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:00,038
I mean, we wouldn't be where we are
if it wasn't for Aunt Mamie.
524
00:34:00,122 --> 00:34:02,916
♪ ♪
525
00:34:04,001 --> 00:34:06,170
MAMIE:
In my family,
526
00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:10,758
we was raised to be strong women.
527
00:34:10,841 --> 00:34:14,928
So I take a lot behind my mom.
528
00:34:15,012 --> 00:34:21,185
But I kind of feel like
I'm not as strong as my mother
529
00:34:21,268 --> 00:34:27,065
because sometimes bearing the weight
of the responsibility I have now,
530
00:34:27,149 --> 00:34:31,195
it gets overwhelming.
531
00:34:31,278 --> 00:34:32,946
Um...
532
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:37,367
Sometimes it makes me depressed
533
00:34:37,451 --> 00:34:40,162
because sometimes I feel like I did...
534
00:34:40,245 --> 00:34:41,997
I haven't had a life.
535
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,168
MELVIN: Now, when I went to jail,
all of this here was clean.
536
00:34:46,251 --> 00:34:48,337
Crazy.
537
00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:50,297
MELVIN:
This was gone. I'm serious.
538
00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:53,008
There wasn't no... wasn't no trees here.
539
00:34:54,384 --> 00:34:56,303
KIM:
Hmm.
540
00:34:56,386 --> 00:34:58,722
See the whole path, now we going...
541
00:34:58,806 --> 00:35:00,846
- KIM: You remember that, Grandma?
- GERTRUDE: Mm-hmm.
542
00:35:00,891 --> 00:35:04,645
MELVIN: Okay, this is...
We getting on down to Dumpling Creek.
543
00:35:04,728 --> 00:35:07,606
I see it. Oh, my goodness.
544
00:35:07,689 --> 00:35:10,067
MELVIN:
Yeah, this is Dumpling Creek right here.
545
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:13,779
So, we're on the other side of
Jonaquin's Bay?
546
00:35:13,862 --> 00:35:15,697
Yeah, that-that-that's...
547
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:17,908
Mr. Fordham bought all of this.
548
00:35:17,991 --> 00:35:21,578
Right here, that's David Wheatley...
place there.
549
00:35:21,662 --> 00:35:23,705
- KIM: Where?
- MELVIN: That big house there.
550
00:35:23,789 --> 00:35:26,291
You can't hardly see it
unless you walk on down here
551
00:35:26,375 --> 00:35:28,293
to the water and peek around this corner.
552
00:35:28,377 --> 00:35:30,170
KIM:
Grandma, be careful.
553
00:35:32,714 --> 00:35:34,091
MELVIN:
Hey.
554
00:35:34,174 --> 00:35:36,093
See that pond right through there?
555
00:35:36,176 --> 00:35:37,553
Way I dug right there?
556
00:35:37,636 --> 00:35:40,973
We running right down the side of it,
that pond right here.
557
00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:44,268
KIM:
(gasps) Oh, my God.
558
00:35:44,351 --> 00:35:46,311
- You dug this pond out like this?
- Yeah.
559
00:35:46,395 --> 00:35:47,896
I dug this pond. Come on.
560
00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:49,457
KIM:
Oh, we right behind the house, huh?
561
00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,024
Yeah, we're right behind your house.
562
00:35:51,108 --> 00:35:52,627
- Come on.
- How deep is it, Uncle Melvin?
563
00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,611
About...
564
00:35:54,695 --> 00:35:56,196
It ain't deep down on this end.
565
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,490
I was just getting down to it.
566
00:35:59,575 --> 00:36:01,660
- Yeah.
- So, this is all rainwater?
567
00:36:01,743 --> 00:36:04,246
Yeah, this here is, uh,
water coming from the ground.
568
00:36:04,329 --> 00:36:05,706
Fresh water.
569
00:36:05,789 --> 00:36:09,293
This was a grass field,
what, about ten acres?
570
00:36:09,376 --> 00:36:10,836
Five acres?
571
00:36:10,919 --> 00:36:12,921
This here was a cornfield.
572
00:36:13,005 --> 00:36:15,132
Papa planted a lot of tobacco in here.
573
00:36:15,215 --> 00:36:17,593
KIM:
Okay, Daniel Boone, come back.
574
00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:20,697
Right through there,
you walk right on to that point,
575
00:36:20,721 --> 00:36:22,514
where Billy had his boat.
576
00:36:22,598 --> 00:36:24,224
- KIM: Careful, Uncle Melvin.
- Huh?
577
00:36:24,308 --> 00:36:25,392
KIM:
Be careful.
578
00:36:25,475 --> 00:36:27,060
- Grandma.
- MELVIN: Yes'm?
579
00:36:27,144 --> 00:36:28,937
What do you think about all of this?
580
00:36:29,021 --> 00:36:31,064
I don't think about nothing about it.
581
00:36:31,148 --> 00:36:34,026
You don't think ab...
But-but all of this...
582
00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:36,278
all of this is what you're fighting for.
583
00:36:36,361 --> 00:36:39,698
And-and-and you talking about
you don't think nothing about it.
584
00:36:39,781 --> 00:36:42,951
Y-You got to think something about it,
'cause I-it...
585
00:36:43,035 --> 00:36:45,355
- I think about it all the time.
- This my heritage, Grandma.
586
00:36:46,204 --> 00:36:48,206
♪ ♪
587
00:36:53,754 --> 00:36:55,756
(birds chirping)
588
00:37:06,934 --> 00:37:09,770
In 2007,
589
00:37:09,853 --> 00:37:14,608
I started to really take more of
an interest in what was going on.
590
00:37:14,691 --> 00:37:20,280
Primarily because my uncle Melvin
told me, "I need your help.
591
00:37:20,364 --> 00:37:22,282
I'm going to jail."
592
00:37:22,366 --> 00:37:24,242
So he pretty much told me,
593
00:37:24,326 --> 00:37:27,537
"These documents state
that we no longer own the property.
594
00:37:27,621 --> 00:37:29,915
"I don't know how. I don't know why.
595
00:37:29,998 --> 00:37:32,125
"Um, we can't be heard.
596
00:37:32,209 --> 00:37:34,461
"But if they're saying, you know,
597
00:37:34,544 --> 00:37:37,464
"we have to sign our rights away
or go to jail,
598
00:37:37,547 --> 00:37:39,841
I'm going to jail."
599
00:37:39,925 --> 00:37:41,927
♪ ♪
600
00:37:53,772 --> 00:37:59,236
MAMIE:
On the morning of March 11,
601
00:37:59,319 --> 00:38:02,906
when Licurtis and Melvin, um, had court,
602
00:38:02,990 --> 00:38:07,786
we knew when we left home
they weren't coming back.
603
00:38:07,869 --> 00:38:11,665
We knew the courts had already been
stacked against us.
604
00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:15,836
We knew from beginning, it wasn't gonna be
in our favor 'cause it never was.
605
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,675
LICURTIS:
I got up that morning.
606
00:38:21,758 --> 00:38:23,844
Mamie was taking me down there.
607
00:38:23,927 --> 00:38:26,930
Seem like I was just looking around
for the last time,
608
00:38:27,014 --> 00:38:30,225
it seemed like, and I grinned at it.
609
00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:33,145
Me and Melvin went down there together.
610
00:38:33,228 --> 00:38:37,232
It seemed like the day was going so slow.
611
00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:41,069
It was foggy, like it had been raining.
612
00:38:44,406 --> 00:38:46,950
{\an8}MELVIN:
In the motel where my lawyer was,
613
00:38:47,034 --> 00:38:50,704
{\an8}it puzzled him so bad,
and, uh, he couldn't even eat.
614
00:38:50,787 --> 00:38:53,040
He was just getting ready
to eat breakfast.
615
00:38:53,123 --> 00:38:58,045
And he said, "Man,
these people don't want to have no trial.
616
00:38:58,128 --> 00:39:00,714
All they want to do is lock you all up."
617
00:39:02,466 --> 00:39:04,217
And that's what they done.
618
00:39:04,301 --> 00:39:06,178
♪ ♪
619
00:39:06,261 --> 00:39:08,430
(typing)
620
00:39:39,711 --> 00:39:42,756
KIM: So, the day that they were arrested
was the day
621
00:39:42,839 --> 00:39:46,468
that our attorney informed us
that he would no longer be representing us
622
00:39:46,551 --> 00:39:49,513
because he was advised
to get off the case,
623
00:39:49,596 --> 00:39:51,431
and he did just that.
624
00:39:51,515 --> 00:39:54,851
He said, um,
"The boys are going to jail today."
625
00:39:56,269 --> 00:39:58,438
It was super emotional.
626
00:39:58,522 --> 00:40:01,942
And it was about 15,
maybe 20 family members,
627
00:40:02,025 --> 00:40:03,985
and we're all crowded in the room.
628
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:06,780
And we were trying to understand why,
why are they going to jail?
629
00:40:06,863 --> 00:40:09,825
What... I mean,
what can we do to fix this?
630
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:13,453
And he was like,
"They're not gonna, um, sign
631
00:40:13,537 --> 00:40:15,622
"saying they're not going back
onto the property.
632
00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:17,624
The judge is pretty adamant."
633
00:40:17,707 --> 00:40:22,212
You know, pretty much about
them thumbing their nose up at the court,
634
00:40:22,295 --> 00:40:25,507
saying, "We're not gonna
obey your rules, your laws.
635
00:40:25,590 --> 00:40:28,260
We're gonna...
we're going to go back onto the property."
636
00:40:28,343 --> 00:40:34,099
And after some more conversation,
I don't recall verbatim what was said,
637
00:40:34,182 --> 00:40:37,352
um, he remanded them to the jail.
638
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:42,107
And I remember Uncle Melvin...
639
00:40:42,190 --> 00:40:44,901
taking his watch off
and all his jewelry off,
640
00:40:44,985 --> 00:40:48,321
and he just said, he said,
"Now, Kim, remember what I told you."
641
00:40:48,405 --> 00:40:51,241
And I was like...
just, you know, at that time,
642
00:40:51,324 --> 00:40:53,827
I wanted to say, "Please just do
what they ask you to do."
643
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:55,912
♪ ♪
644
00:40:57,247 --> 00:41:00,917
Our attorney at the time
was threatened with sanctions.
645
00:41:01,001 --> 00:41:03,587
And my memory of that court date,
646
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:07,340
of seeing him walk away
with his rolling briefcase,
647
00:41:07,424 --> 00:41:09,176
walking back to his BMW,
648
00:41:09,259 --> 00:41:12,470
not even looking back at my uncles
who had just been incarcerated.
649
00:41:13,597 --> 00:41:18,268
He closed that chapter,
and he just left, got in his car and left.
650
00:41:20,478 --> 00:41:22,480
♪ ♪
651
00:41:24,566 --> 00:41:26,568
- (camera clicks)
- (indistinct police chatter)
652
00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:31,781
(camera clicks)
653
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:36,578
LICURTIS:
I never thought about signing.
654
00:41:36,661 --> 00:41:38,121
Never.
655
00:41:38,205 --> 00:41:41,750
Always was sitting and think about...
656
00:41:41,833 --> 00:41:46,588
what it would be like to not have my land
657
00:41:46,671 --> 00:41:50,634
and my house, and knowing
I had to start all over again.
658
00:41:50,717 --> 00:41:54,221
And I would picture in my mind,
how could I get back so fast.
659
00:41:54,304 --> 00:41:58,016
And at the end of the day,
I come up with this answer on that.
660
00:41:58,099 --> 00:42:00,268
I couldn't make it back at my age.
661
00:42:00,352 --> 00:42:02,938
'Cause that's mostly what...
662
00:42:03,021 --> 00:42:05,106
I'm-a put it just like this.
663
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:08,526
That's mostly what Black people ever get.
664
00:42:08,610 --> 00:42:12,530
A nice home, nice family, a nice car.
665
00:42:12,614 --> 00:42:14,866
You're not gonna have
a whole lot of money,
666
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:17,661
'cause it don't work like that
in this county.
667
00:42:17,744 --> 00:42:19,746
♪ ♪
668
00:42:32,509 --> 00:42:35,428
(water lapping)
669
00:42:35,512 --> 00:42:37,514
(critters chittering)
670
00:42:38,723 --> 00:42:40,684
(leaves rustling)
671
00:42:41,685 --> 00:42:46,356
MAMIE: The way that this was set up
and the way it was done
672
00:42:46,439 --> 00:42:52,612
make it even harder to just sign a paper
saying you will never go on the property.
673
00:42:53,822 --> 00:42:56,866
Licurtis, it's like he almost saying,
674
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:59,869
you know,
"This is something I have to do."
675
00:42:59,953 --> 00:43:04,708
Melvin mindset is, "That's my livelihood.
676
00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:08,128
"I have no choice.
677
00:43:08,211 --> 00:43:10,797
"I'm, what, in my 70s?
678
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,634
And where else am I going to live?"
679
00:43:16,803 --> 00:43:22,392
ANITA: In some ways, almost disbelieving
that the legal system could be so unfair.
680
00:43:22,475 --> 00:43:26,521
I-I think they were both disbelieving
681
00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:29,190
and incredibly frustrated
but also determined
682
00:43:29,274 --> 00:43:31,776
{\an8}that, um, they would do whatever it takes.
683
00:43:31,860 --> 00:43:34,779
{\an8}And I... And that's remarkable,
because I think
684
00:43:34,863 --> 00:43:39,993
{\an8}some people would just ultimately
feel like, "I can't take this anymore.
685
00:43:40,076 --> 00:43:43,705
Um, I'm just gonna cut my losses
and move on."
686
00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:49,127
Um... So they had
an incredible amount of determination
687
00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:55,967
and, um, a will to-to really honor
their ancestors.
688
00:43:59,471 --> 00:44:01,848
MAMIE:
Same old bullshit every day.
689
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:11,274
{\an8}WOMAN: He going in there with
that thing they use with the ditches.
690
00:44:12,317 --> 00:44:16,154
MAMIE: And I guess they do
what in the hell they want.
691
00:44:19,115 --> 00:44:20,825
(speaking indistinctly)
692
00:44:20,909 --> 00:44:22,869
BILLY:
Yeah, I got 'em. I got 'em.
693
00:44:25,914 --> 00:44:27,916
♪ ♪
694
00:44:33,338 --> 00:44:35,340
(birds chirping)
695
00:44:42,389 --> 00:44:44,599
MAMIE:
Billy.
696
00:44:44,682 --> 00:44:46,601
Don't go down there.
697
00:44:46,684 --> 00:44:48,645
Let them do what they want.
698
00:44:48,728 --> 00:44:51,064
Now, somebody don't come in here soon,
699
00:44:51,147 --> 00:44:53,024
I don't know.
700
00:44:53,108 --> 00:44:55,318
Just-just don't bother 'em.
Don't say nothing to 'em.
701
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,616
Hey!
702
00:45:01,699 --> 00:45:04,202
MAMIE:
Billy!
703
00:45:04,285 --> 00:45:06,329
What-what you going down there for?
704
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:10,625
Billy, don't go down there.
705
00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:13,128
Wait, let me go with you
so I can record it.
706
00:45:16,339 --> 00:45:18,842
BILLY: You-you think
you're the man's son, right?
707
00:45:18,925 --> 00:45:20,009
- MAN: No.
- Yeah, okay.
708
00:45:20,093 --> 00:45:22,154
- I'll find out what's going on, now.
- Doesn't matter.
709
00:45:22,178 --> 00:45:23,721
Okay, you will know.
710
00:45:23,805 --> 00:45:25,783
Okay? -Hold on.
I'm not Dean's son. I'm from Atlanta.
711
00:45:25,807 --> 00:45:27,308
I-I don't care where you at, man.
712
00:45:27,392 --> 00:45:29,072
- That's all right, buddy.
- Okay. All right.
713
00:45:29,102 --> 00:45:30,645
And you, too, big boy.
714
00:45:30,728 --> 00:45:33,148
- Don't hurt your back.
- Okay, don't hurt your back.
715
00:45:33,231 --> 00:45:35,918
Do y'all think y'all gonna come put
something down here and walk away with it?
716
00:45:35,942 --> 00:45:37,294
MAN:
I'm not gonna put nothing out here,
717
00:45:37,318 --> 00:45:38,712
'cause I don't give a goddamn
what happens.
718
00:45:38,736 --> 00:45:41,382
- BILLY: And I don't... I don't...
- MAMIE: Billy! Ah. Oh, no, no, Billy.
719
00:45:41,406 --> 00:45:43,158
Billy, Billy, no.
720
00:45:43,241 --> 00:45:45,785
- Oh, no, no. Oh, no.
- (indistinct arguing)
721
00:45:45,869 --> 00:45:48,204
Oh, no. Let's go.
722
00:45:48,288 --> 00:45:50,206
Let's go.
723
00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:52,333
Billy, he a liar. He's a white man.
724
00:45:52,417 --> 00:45:54,061
- He can't do nothing but lie.
- That's all right, that's all right.
725
00:45:54,085 --> 00:45:55,146
MAMIE:
You know white people don't do...
726
00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:56,272
BILLY:
Good-good thing you're in here with me...
727
00:45:56,296 --> 00:45:57,982
MAMIE: They've been stealing and lying.
Come, let's go!
728
00:45:58,006 --> 00:46:00,151
- They don't do nothing but lie.
- (Billy speaking indistinctly)
729
00:46:00,175 --> 00:46:02,427
Billy, you know in slavery time,
730
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:05,972
they've been lying all they life, that's
how they get what they get by lying.
731
00:46:06,055 --> 00:46:07,575
- Let's go!
- BILLY: Well, if I took you two out...
732
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,684
MAMIE:
No, no, no, no, no, no.
733
00:46:09,767 --> 00:46:12,437
That don't... That's...
This is just how white people do.
734
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,733
Leave it alone. They've been stealing and
killing and Ku Klux Klan all they life.
735
00:46:16,816 --> 00:46:20,361
Don't worry. Don't worry. Let's go, Billy.
736
00:46:20,445 --> 00:46:22,572
That's why I'm recording this.
737
00:46:22,655 --> 00:46:24,282
Come on, now.
738
00:46:26,034 --> 00:46:28,411
(footsteps departing)
739
00:46:32,165 --> 00:46:34,935
When Licurtis and Melvin was in jail,
it kind of put anger in everybody.
740
00:46:34,959 --> 00:46:37,086
{\an8}'Cause when you see your sheriff,
and you said,
741
00:46:37,170 --> 00:46:39,631
{\an8}"You ain't got to go there, you say."
Don't even make sense.
742
00:46:39,714 --> 00:46:42,342
{\an8}They running down here to see
if anybody down on that land.
743
00:46:42,425 --> 00:46:44,677
And now all of a sudden now,
they're all showing up,
744
00:46:44,761 --> 00:46:47,347
running down here every day,
watching us, see what we doing.
745
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:49,641
Then sometimes even the sheriff
will come by your house.
746
00:46:49,724 --> 00:46:51,267
Now, this ain't the water.
747
00:46:51,351 --> 00:46:53,102
They will ride by looking at you.
748
00:46:54,562 --> 00:46:58,441
Like, you say something,
do something on your... in your yard,
749
00:46:58,525 --> 00:47:00,336
I stop... "What,
you got a problem or something?"
750
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,695
And I'm sitting there looking.
751
00:47:02,779 --> 00:47:04,113
What is wrong with these people?
752
00:47:04,197 --> 00:47:07,534
♪ Lord, I'm walkin' and walkin' ♪
753
00:47:07,617 --> 00:47:10,954
("Walkin' Night and Day"
by Big Boy Henry playing)
754
00:47:11,037 --> 00:47:13,790
♪ Walkin' this old highway ♪
755
00:47:17,544 --> 00:47:19,420
♪ Yes, I'm walkin' ♪
756
00:47:21,798 --> 00:47:24,676
♪ Walkin' this old highway ♪
757
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,269
MAMIE: I think
the original plan for this water was,
758
00:47:34,352 --> 00:47:39,190
they were going to have boat slips
they can rent to people
759
00:47:39,274 --> 00:47:41,943
for their yachts or boats,
760
00:47:42,026 --> 00:47:46,823
and Melvin's club, I think that was
gonna be the clubhouse for the marina.
761
00:47:46,906 --> 00:47:50,201
And then I believe
where Licurtis' house sit,
762
00:47:50,285 --> 00:47:53,162
there was gonna be four or five homes.
763
00:47:53,246 --> 00:47:55,790
They could have put probably
right many homes
764
00:47:55,873 --> 00:47:59,043
and a turning table, like a cul-de-sac.
765
00:47:59,127 --> 00:48:04,382
And I believe that encroaching over,
like they are doing now,
766
00:48:04,465 --> 00:48:07,969
where my mother is, back to the church,
767
00:48:08,052 --> 00:48:12,432
if they can get Silver Dollar Road,
it's gonna be golf.
768
00:48:12,515 --> 00:48:16,269
Who's gonna be able to afford the taxes
in... on Silver Dollar Road,
769
00:48:16,352 --> 00:48:21,357
when mostly everybody in here
are senior citizens?
770
00:48:22,567 --> 00:48:27,697
Or getting, um, social security.
771
00:48:27,780 --> 00:48:31,576
So that's gonna force a lot of people
to sell like it's doing in Beaufort.
772
00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:35,371
It's forcing a lot of
the, uh, people in Beaufort,
773
00:48:35,455 --> 00:48:39,375
who wants to hold on
to their, uh, parents' home,
774
00:48:39,459 --> 00:48:41,419
but they can't afford the taxes.
775
00:48:41,502 --> 00:48:44,380
So, what you're supposed to do with...
776
00:48:44,464 --> 00:48:47,175
I ain't gonna say Black people,
'cause people are people.
777
00:48:47,258 --> 00:48:50,428
What you gonna do
with poor people, period?
778
00:48:50,511 --> 00:48:53,222
What you gonna do with us?
779
00:48:53,306 --> 00:48:57,560
And they're surely gonna need
somebody to clean the condos
780
00:48:57,644 --> 00:49:00,521
and, uh, fix the fast food
781
00:49:00,605 --> 00:49:03,650
and cut the yards.
782
00:49:03,733 --> 00:49:08,321
So if you clear out Silver Dollar Road,
where are you going?
783
00:49:08,404 --> 00:49:11,783
And not that we want to go anywhere,
because this is ours.
784
00:49:11,866 --> 00:49:15,995
Our ancestors left this here for us.
785
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:19,499
Okay, today is July the 4th.
786
00:49:19,582 --> 00:49:23,169
- (lively chatter)
- Licurtis' birthday.
787
00:49:23,252 --> 00:49:25,338
{\an8}Happy birthday, Licurtis.
788
00:49:25,421 --> 00:49:27,924
{\an8}-Happy birthday.
- (laughter)
789
00:49:28,007 --> 00:49:30,277
{\an8}MAMIE: Happy... Brit, you got to say,
"Happy birthday from Brit."
790
00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:32,720
{\an8}-Happy birthday from me.
- Happy birthday.
791
00:49:32,804 --> 00:49:34,722
- MAMIE: Licurtis, all right.
- (laughter)
792
00:49:34,806 --> 00:49:36,683
(lively chatter continues)
793
00:49:36,766 --> 00:49:39,060
Happy birthday, bro.
794
00:49:39,143 --> 00:49:40,436
Happy birthday, Unc.
795
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,021
Happy birthday, Uncle Li.
796
00:49:42,105 --> 00:49:44,732
MAMIE:
All right, he did it. Yeah, he did.
797
00:49:44,816 --> 00:49:46,984
ALL:
Hi, Uncle Melvin!
798
00:49:47,068 --> 00:49:48,695
MAMIE:
Hi, Uncle Licurtis.
799
00:49:48,778 --> 00:49:50,697
ALL:
Hi, Uncle Licurtis!
800
00:49:50,780 --> 00:49:52,156
MAMIE:
Okay.
801
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:54,450
Hi, Melvin and Uncle Li!
802
00:49:54,534 --> 00:49:56,953
- Happy birthday, Dad!
- Happy birthday, Li.
803
00:49:57,036 --> 00:49:58,830
Uncle Melvin and Li.
804
00:49:58,913 --> 00:50:00,516
- Y'all hang in there.
- (overlapping chatter)
805
00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:02,875
We got something coming,
don't worry. Love y'all.
806
00:50:02,959 --> 00:50:05,128
MAMIE:
Love y'all.
807
00:50:11,968 --> 00:50:15,680
KIM: During that time frame
of what was supposed to be 90 days,
808
00:50:15,763 --> 00:50:18,850
we didn't have anybody
to even handle that.
809
00:50:18,933 --> 00:50:22,103
We didn't even know
until we found another attorney,
810
00:50:22,186 --> 00:50:24,439
which was in September of 2011.
811
00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:28,317
And that's when he proceeded to tell us,
812
00:50:28,401 --> 00:50:30,611
"This is not a simple trespassing.
813
00:50:30,695 --> 00:50:33,531
"This is not gonna be easy
to get you guys out.
814
00:50:33,614 --> 00:50:37,076
"And in order for me to take this case,
815
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,080
I'm gonna need a retainer fee of $45,000."
816
00:50:41,164 --> 00:50:42,558
NEWSWOMAN (on TV):
Two brothers remain in jail
817
00:50:42,582 --> 00:50:44,709
after a judge refused to hear their case
818
00:50:44,792 --> 00:50:47,044
involving land they claim is theirs.
819
00:50:47,128 --> 00:50:49,881
It's a story we first told you about
last week.
820
00:50:49,964 --> 00:50:52,884
NEWSMAN: The land in question is along
a coastal creek in Carteret County.
821
00:50:52,967 --> 00:50:55,720
A court hearing had been set
for this afternoon in New Bern.
822
00:50:55,803 --> 00:50:59,807
Brian Mims is there live
to explain what happened. Brian?
823
00:50:59,891 --> 00:51:02,435
David, in essence, Judge Ben Alford says,
824
00:51:02,518 --> 00:51:04,854
"There's nothing more to consider
in this case."
825
00:51:05,938 --> 00:51:09,358
The family's position
through the litigation
826
00:51:09,442 --> 00:51:11,819
when I represented them was that,
827
00:51:11,903 --> 00:51:15,323
um, they were cheated out of the land
828
00:51:15,406 --> 00:51:21,621
by several successive, um, entities,
829
00:51:21,704 --> 00:51:25,708
actors, um...
Some individual, one corporation...
830
00:51:25,792 --> 00:51:29,253
Who continued to claim
that they own the land
831
00:51:29,337 --> 00:51:34,425
even though that claim flowed
from a fraudulent deed to begin with.
832
00:51:34,509 --> 00:51:36,803
And...
833
00:51:36,886 --> 00:51:40,932
there are... there are so many twists
and turns to this legal process
834
00:51:41,015 --> 00:51:46,145
that it's-it's... it's hard for attorneys
and courts to follow.
835
00:51:46,229 --> 00:51:50,483
It's, uh, impossible for the family
to understand why any of this makes sense
836
00:51:50,566 --> 00:51:52,985
and why they should lose their land.
837
00:51:53,069 --> 00:51:57,698
It just kind of defies logic
that any of that constitutes justice.
838
00:51:57,782 --> 00:51:59,742
(birds chirping, critters chittering)
839
00:52:07,834 --> 00:52:09,418
KIM:
It was just hard.
840
00:52:09,502 --> 00:52:12,922
It was staying by the phone,
841
00:52:13,005 --> 00:52:14,841
hoping they'd call
842
00:52:14,924 --> 00:52:18,344
and having an answer for them
if they called 'cause it was,
843
00:52:18,427 --> 00:52:20,471
"Did you find anybody?
Did you find an attorney?"
844
00:52:20,555 --> 00:52:22,640
And all that weight on your shoulders
845
00:52:22,723 --> 00:52:27,520
from somebody depending on you
to do something so important.
846
00:52:29,355 --> 00:52:34,861
It was horrible... the anxiety, the stress,
the fear of disappointing them.
847
00:52:36,112 --> 00:52:38,382
'Cause during that time,
my husband was just diagnosed with cancer.
848
00:52:38,406 --> 00:52:41,242
And I was like... (sighs)
849
00:52:41,325 --> 00:52:44,871
The fight between my uncles,
and the ripping and running
850
00:52:44,954 --> 00:52:47,206
to these tr-treatment centers,
851
00:52:47,290 --> 00:52:50,167
and keeping Grandma
in a good frame of mind.
852
00:52:50,251 --> 00:52:52,503
She wouldn't go anywhere.
853
00:52:52,587 --> 00:52:56,591
She'd just sit and listen to
those old spirituals and cry, and...
854
00:52:57,675 --> 00:53:00,636
"I want my boys home,
I just want my boys home."
855
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:05,016
So, Sundays, when we would all
get together and have dinner,
856
00:53:05,099 --> 00:53:07,852
we'd all get together
and just wait by the phone,
857
00:53:07,935 --> 00:53:09,604
wait for them to call.
858
00:53:09,687 --> 00:53:13,274
And we'd pass the phone around
and everybody had something to say.
859
00:53:13,357 --> 00:53:17,862
And then the anxiety of
when it would come to my turn to talk,
860
00:53:17,945 --> 00:53:22,366
it was like, "Did you find anybody?"
And I was like...
861
00:53:24,744 --> 00:53:26,329
(voice breaking):
"Not yet."
862
00:53:28,789 --> 00:53:30,791
(birds chirping)
863
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,175
Yeah, I used to take this ride,
and absolutely...
864
00:53:39,258 --> 00:53:43,387
Sometimes I would literally be in tears
taking this ride.
865
00:53:43,471 --> 00:53:48,726
Not knowing what their mindset was
gonna be like and in a pretty good mood.
866
00:53:48,809 --> 00:53:52,813
'Cause their mood kind of
set the precedence of our visit.
867
00:53:52,897 --> 00:53:56,567
So if I felt like
they were not in a good space,
868
00:53:56,651 --> 00:53:59,320
it was... wasn't going to be a good visit.
869
00:54:02,281 --> 00:54:05,493
{\an8}I visited them at least every week.
870
00:54:05,576 --> 00:54:08,704
{\an8}There was a ritual to go and visit them
on Wednesdays.
871
00:54:08,788 --> 00:54:10,414
(car lock beeps)
872
00:54:13,209 --> 00:54:15,711
We weren't always treated so nicely.
873
00:54:15,795 --> 00:54:18,089
"Your name's not on the paperwork."
874
00:54:18,172 --> 00:54:23,511
If my name was on the visitors list,
they always acknowledged my maiden name,
875
00:54:23,594 --> 00:54:26,597
and I would assure them,
after several visits,
876
00:54:26,681 --> 00:54:28,057
I'm still that same person.
877
00:54:28,140 --> 00:54:30,101
You know me, you see me.
878
00:54:30,184 --> 00:54:31,727
"Your name's not on the list."
879
00:54:31,811 --> 00:54:34,313
"But I was just here last week
and you let me in."
880
00:54:34,397 --> 00:54:36,774
"Your name's not on the list."
881
00:54:36,857 --> 00:54:41,362
You know, um... And again,
I experienced the, um...
882
00:54:41,445 --> 00:54:45,366
emblems being taken off my car
and nail tacks in my tires,
883
00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:47,702
and, um...
884
00:54:47,785 --> 00:54:50,830
Got to the point that
when I came to Carteret County to visit,
885
00:54:50,913 --> 00:54:53,374
I'd left someone in my car
the entire time.
886
00:54:55,751 --> 00:54:57,670
{\an8}Well, normally when we'd come,
887
00:54:57,753 --> 00:55:02,258
{\an8}there'd be like about 15
or 20 other people waiting to go in,
888
00:55:02,341 --> 00:55:03,884
{\an8}see their loved ones.
889
00:55:03,968 --> 00:55:07,638
We line up, give your name,
890
00:55:07,722 --> 00:55:11,851
wait to go upstairs to be... to see them.
891
00:55:13,185 --> 00:55:17,940
Get in the waiting area,
and they'd release them into the pod,
892
00:55:18,024 --> 00:55:21,485
and we'd just conversate
through the glass partition,
893
00:55:21,569 --> 00:55:23,529
unable to physically touch.
894
00:55:25,031 --> 00:55:27,033
♪ ♪
895
00:55:31,162 --> 00:55:34,749
It was, um, heartbreaking.
896
00:55:34,832 --> 00:55:38,794
It was sad to see them chained in...
897
00:55:38,878 --> 00:55:42,715
in these orange jumpsuits and defeated,
898
00:55:42,798 --> 00:55:44,800
def... the defeated look on their face,
899
00:55:44,884 --> 00:55:46,761
and it was...
900
00:55:46,844 --> 00:55:49,388
When they would talk to us,
sometimes they'd talk to us
901
00:55:49,472 --> 00:55:51,932
with their heads down
and wouldn't look at us,
902
00:55:52,016 --> 00:55:55,311
'cause they said
they didn't want to see us walk away.
903
00:55:55,394 --> 00:55:58,439
Then it was times
when they would not want us to come
904
00:55:58,522 --> 00:56:00,066
'cause it was...
905
00:56:00,149 --> 00:56:04,320
They said it was the most painful thing in
the world to see us leave and couldn't go.
906
00:56:04,403 --> 00:56:06,405
♪ ♪
907
00:56:10,618 --> 00:56:13,412
LICURTIS: I was scared to go to jail
'cause I'd never been.
908
00:56:14,497 --> 00:56:18,417
And I kept dreaming about
how it would feel to be in there.
909
00:56:19,502 --> 00:56:22,129
And when I got in there,
it was like my dream were true.
910
00:56:22,213 --> 00:56:24,048
It was just like I dreamed it.
911
00:56:24,131 --> 00:56:27,259
The wall green,
ain't but one way in there.
912
00:56:27,343 --> 00:56:30,387
And then you got to do like they say.
913
00:56:30,471 --> 00:56:35,851
Get up, lay down, eat, go to the bathroom,
back to your bunk.
914
00:56:35,935 --> 00:56:37,478
It was the whole thing.
915
00:56:37,561 --> 00:56:39,563
(insects trilling)
916
00:56:46,570 --> 00:56:47,613
(door slams shut)
917
00:56:50,074 --> 00:56:54,245
They said, "You stay in that cell
all the 24 hours."
918
00:56:54,328 --> 00:56:58,916
At 23, yeah, one hour out,
you know, we'd come out to eat.
919
00:57:03,087 --> 00:57:06,048
And then, you know, I would look at the TV
920
00:57:06,132 --> 00:57:09,135
through the jail cell,
and that's where it went.
921
00:57:09,218 --> 00:57:14,098
And I just kept praying and praying
that God just deliver me from this.
922
00:57:14,181 --> 00:57:16,183
(crackling)
923
00:57:17,643 --> 00:57:19,770
One time, I thought I was gonna go crazy.
924
00:57:21,188 --> 00:57:22,940
(cell gate closes)
925
00:57:23,023 --> 00:57:28,112
MELVIN: Everyday life in there to get up,
wash my face, brush my teeth
926
00:57:28,195 --> 00:57:32,283
and walk for about two to three hours.
927
00:57:32,366 --> 00:57:34,368
(crackling, rumbling)
928
00:57:38,205 --> 00:57:40,624
And I could walk like that
until I got tired,
929
00:57:40,708 --> 00:57:42,710
and then I'd lay down and go to sleep.
930
00:57:44,670 --> 00:57:48,215
- (door slams shut)
- That was my daily thing.
931
00:57:49,967 --> 00:57:52,511
(clattering)
932
00:57:57,641 --> 00:58:02,271
I would buy the guys' milk
'cause I couldn't drink that water.
933
00:58:02,354 --> 00:58:04,565
Most of the people in there
couldn't drink the water,
934
00:58:04,648 --> 00:58:07,359
so I would give them food for milk.
935
00:58:07,443 --> 00:58:11,530
I drank a lot of milk, and I survived.
936
00:58:12,615 --> 00:58:14,158
(footsteps pacing)
937
00:58:14,241 --> 00:58:17,745
LICURTIS:
They kind of thought that I had sugar,
938
00:58:17,828 --> 00:58:19,455
and sent me to the hospital.
939
00:58:19,538 --> 00:58:22,666
I stayed in there about three weeks.
940
00:58:24,126 --> 00:58:26,921
They had me shackled there
like I had killed somebody, buddy.
941
00:58:27,004 --> 00:58:29,548
Had me shackled to the bed.
942
00:58:29,632 --> 00:58:34,136
I couldn't stand... sleep on one side
'cause of those chains around my ankle.
943
00:58:36,889 --> 00:58:39,850
Come to find out, didn't have no sugar.
944
00:58:39,934 --> 00:58:41,852
The doctor told me, said, uh...
945
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:47,483
"Only thing wrong with you is
you need to get out of jail."
946
00:58:50,903 --> 00:58:53,239
MELVIN:
A lot of things run through my mind.
947
00:58:54,365 --> 00:58:57,034
Then knowing that Licurtis is sick,
948
00:58:57,117 --> 00:59:00,246
I was kind of watching over him, you know.
949
00:59:00,329 --> 00:59:03,415
It's like a... a brother love, I guess.
950
00:59:04,667 --> 00:59:06,877
(gate buzzes, opens and closes)
951
00:59:09,797 --> 00:59:11,799
(chains clinking)
952
00:59:14,635 --> 00:59:17,972
And every now and then,
they would put me in another cell,
953
00:59:18,055 --> 00:59:22,309
and Licurtis in another cell, sometime
I wouldn't see Licurtis for months.
954
00:59:23,852 --> 00:59:25,980
(gate buzzes)
955
00:59:27,564 --> 00:59:29,566
(crackling, rumbling)
956
00:59:44,331 --> 00:59:48,544
But, boy, you got so much prejudice
in that jail.
957
00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:50,504
People killing one another.
958
00:59:53,549 --> 00:59:57,011
And I ain't never thought about
killing myself in there.
959
00:59:57,094 --> 00:59:59,096
- ♪ ♪
- (birds chirping)
960
01:00:11,191 --> 01:00:15,821
So, I had a dream that,
"Now, they got to let you out."
961
01:00:17,906 --> 01:00:22,494
And one of the CO's come in there
and told me, one of the jailers,
962
01:00:22,578 --> 01:00:25,581
he said, "Man,
they don't know how to let you out."
963
01:00:25,664 --> 01:00:29,043
I said, "All they got to do is
open the door."
964
01:00:29,126 --> 01:00:32,004
You know?
And then when I got ready to go,
965
01:00:32,087 --> 01:00:34,757
uh, this ain't right to me,
just something wasn't right.
966
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,468
I didn't deserve to see
who kept telling me,
967
01:00:37,551 --> 01:00:40,471
"Why don't y'all... why don't you go on
and leave, Melvin?"
968
01:00:40,554 --> 01:00:42,723
I said, "Well, I'm going,"
I said, "Well..."
969
01:00:42,806 --> 01:00:44,350
I mean, picking up weight in there,
970
01:00:44,433 --> 01:00:47,102
I couldn't wear none of my clothes...
One pant leg long enough
971
01:00:47,186 --> 01:00:49,104
and the other one short.
972
01:00:49,188 --> 01:00:51,148
But after a while, I walked on out.
973
01:00:54,526 --> 01:00:57,738
NEWSMAN: Let's take a-another look
at this 3-D image here
974
01:00:57,821 --> 01:01:01,325
that you can only see on ABC 11,
and it shows, uh...
975
01:01:01,408 --> 01:01:03,720
(on TV): If we go to weather source one
here, it will show you,
976
01:01:03,744 --> 01:01:05,245
uh, the height of these storms.
977
01:01:05,329 --> 01:01:06,806
As you can see,
we zoom into that one cell.
978
01:01:06,830 --> 01:01:08,624
Now north of Louisburg, there's the...
979
01:01:08,707 --> 01:01:10,751
there's the back end edge
of it right there...
980
01:01:10,834 --> 01:01:15,089
MAMIE: Before they went to jail, my mother
went to that home extensions market,
981
01:01:15,172 --> 01:01:17,383
farmers' market, what they call it.
982
01:01:17,466 --> 01:01:19,843
My mother would go,
and she don't do that no more.
983
01:01:21,053 --> 01:01:25,265
And my mother had her garden,
she worked her garden.
984
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:28,143
And now she don't want to do any of that.
985
01:01:29,144 --> 01:01:31,480
She thinks she has to be there
986
01:01:31,563 --> 01:01:36,485
so if Melvin and Licurtis call,
she needs to be there to take their call.
987
01:01:36,568 --> 01:01:38,821
(distant singing)
988
01:01:38,904 --> 01:01:41,156
You know what,
we try to get her to understand,
989
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,409
you never know when they gonna call.
990
01:01:43,492 --> 01:01:45,285
But her mentality is,
991
01:01:45,369 --> 01:01:49,498
"Well, even if I don't know when,
I have to be here.
992
01:01:49,581 --> 01:01:51,625
I can't leave."
993
01:01:55,462 --> 01:01:57,214
(phone rings)
994
01:01:58,632 --> 01:02:01,778
AUTOMATED VOICE: call will be recorded
and subject to monitoring at any time.
995
01:02:01,802 --> 01:02:04,138
You may begin speaking now.
996
01:02:04,221 --> 01:02:05,865
MELVIN (distorted on phone):
Is the missus okay?
997
01:02:05,889 --> 01:02:07,808
- Yeah.
- Okay.
998
01:02:07,891 --> 01:02:10,060
Yeah, all of them are all right.
999
01:02:10,144 --> 01:02:11,955
- MELVIN: Okay, so everybody's okay.
- GERTRUDE: Mm-hmm.
1000
01:02:11,979 --> 01:02:13,772
Mamie's going for a checkup today.
1001
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:17,359
- MELVIN: Okay, she's going for a checkup.
- GERTRUDE: Mm-hmm.
1002
01:02:17,443 --> 01:02:19,945
(birds chirping, critters chittering)
1003
01:02:20,028 --> 01:02:23,615
KIM: During the time we were being
represented by one particular attorney,
1004
01:02:23,699 --> 01:02:29,538
after about five years,
we'd already given him about $95,000.
1005
01:02:29,621 --> 01:02:32,749
My uncles were still incarcerated.
1006
01:02:32,833 --> 01:02:36,336
There was no evidence
of them being released.
1007
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:39,756
The only communication we would have
from time to time would be:
1008
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:44,303
"I need $1,500 for this,"
or "I need $2,000."
1009
01:02:44,386 --> 01:02:47,848
"I need the family to come up
with $12,000 'cause I have to do this."
1010
01:02:47,931 --> 01:02:51,977
I asked the paralegal
1011
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:55,147
to write me up a document
that told our story
1012
01:02:55,230 --> 01:02:58,484
in its complete entirety of where we were.
1013
01:02:58,567 --> 01:03:02,779
So when I would go out
to solicit other people to help,
1014
01:03:02,863 --> 01:03:08,243
it would be easy to tell the story
from his perspective,
1015
01:03:08,327 --> 01:03:11,538
which made sense,
without me just having to tell the story.
1016
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,587
We had an attorney, um, she told us
1017
01:03:18,670 --> 01:03:23,842
we needed $5,000 for her
to-to do the consult
1018
01:03:23,926 --> 01:03:28,847
and, um, whatever was left
after her reading through our documents,
1019
01:03:28,931 --> 01:03:31,517
she would send it back or, you know,
1020
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,185
give us the remainder monies in return
1021
01:03:33,268 --> 01:03:35,687
and let us know
if she could take the case.
1022
01:03:36,772 --> 01:03:42,361
She took the entire weekend
to look at the case files or whatever.
1023
01:03:42,444 --> 01:03:46,114
She sent us roughly back
a hundred and some-odd dollars
1024
01:03:46,198 --> 01:03:49,409
and told us, unfortunately,
she couldn't accommodate us.
1025
01:03:50,661 --> 01:03:53,330
But that was what we were running into.
1026
01:03:53,413 --> 01:03:56,833
People that already kind of
heard about our story,
1027
01:03:56,917 --> 01:04:00,295
and we not knowing,
just grasping for straws
1028
01:04:00,379 --> 01:04:05,259
'cause we want our uncles out of jail
and just trying to do whatever it took
1029
01:04:05,342 --> 01:04:11,348
to get somebody that was really
gonna help us cost us big-time.
1030
01:04:11,431 --> 01:04:13,392
People were taking advantage of us.
1031
01:04:13,475 --> 01:04:17,062
{\an8}♪ If you don't want ♪
1032
01:04:17,145 --> 01:04:20,023
{\an8}♪ To get in trouble... ♪
1033
01:04:20,107 --> 01:04:25,195
MELVIN: Ain't no justice in Beaufort,
not for no Black people.
1034
01:04:26,238 --> 01:04:29,783
White people, yes. Black people, no.
1035
01:04:29,866 --> 01:04:32,869
And now, look at it now.
1036
01:04:32,953 --> 01:04:36,665
You could always go in Beaufort,
1037
01:04:36,748 --> 01:04:40,419
Black people be walking the street
isn't happening no more.
1038
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:44,506
People there lost their house.
1039
01:04:44,590 --> 01:04:48,218
They ain't... they'll never live
in the town of Beaufort no more.
1040
01:04:48,302 --> 01:04:50,804
♪ Let that liar alone ♪
1041
01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:54,516
♪ Well, let me tell you
what a liar will do ♪
1042
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,936
♪ Ain't no sense running,
he'll catch up with you ♪
1043
01:04:58,020 --> 01:05:00,314
♪ If you don't want ♪
1044
01:05:00,397 --> 01:05:03,233
♪ To get in trouble, get in trouble... ♪
1045
01:05:03,317 --> 01:05:04,484
(singing fades)
1046
01:05:06,570 --> 01:05:11,491
KIM: My memory of Beaufort,
when I was about ten or 11,
1047
01:05:11,575 --> 01:05:13,368
were pretty good memories.
1048
01:05:13,452 --> 01:05:15,829
It was always walking on Front Street,
1049
01:05:15,912 --> 01:05:19,791
watching the boats
and, um, eating ice cream,
1050
01:05:19,875 --> 01:05:22,502
and just nostalgic-type things.
1051
01:05:22,586 --> 01:05:24,755
Going to the post office
with my grandmother,
1052
01:05:24,838 --> 01:05:28,592
or going to the bank
and always getting candy.
1053
01:05:28,675 --> 01:05:30,844
It was "town" is what we always called it.
1054
01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:33,764
"Grandma's taking us to town."
It was beautiful.
1055
01:05:33,847 --> 01:05:36,683
It was a beautiful memory
until I became an adult
1056
01:05:36,767 --> 01:05:40,187
and realized, um,
some of the things that happened...
1057
01:05:40,270 --> 01:05:42,814
I experienced it
while helping out in this case...
1058
01:05:42,898 --> 01:05:46,109
That made me think this is not
such a pretty place anymore.
1059
01:05:47,736 --> 01:05:50,656
A civil rights activist is
in northeastern North Carolina,
1060
01:05:50,739 --> 01:05:53,200
trying to get help for a family
1061
01:05:53,283 --> 01:05:54,993
{\an8}to get their loved ones
released from jail.
1062
01:05:55,077 --> 01:05:58,580
{\an8}Fox Eastern Carolina News reporter
Leland Pinder has more details
1063
01:05:58,664 --> 01:06:01,291
and explains
what the organization has planned.
1064
01:06:01,375 --> 01:06:03,877
{\an8}I've never seen anyone in jail so long
for trespassing.
1065
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,504
{\an8}According to court documents,
1066
01:06:05,587 --> 01:06:08,423
{\an8}the plaintiff in this case
is Adams Creek Associates.
1067
01:06:08,507 --> 01:06:11,093
{\an8}I tried to call them
to get their side of the story,
1068
01:06:11,176 --> 01:06:13,178
{\an8}and this is what I found.
1069
01:06:13,261 --> 01:06:15,021
AUTOMATED VOICE:
Welcome to Verizon Wireless.
1070
01:06:15,055 --> 01:06:19,267
The number you dialed has been changed,
disconnected or is no longer in service.
1071
01:06:19,351 --> 01:06:21,103
LELAND:
Barnett says he's planning a march
1072
01:06:21,186 --> 01:06:24,272
if the two men aren't released
by a certain date.
1073
01:06:24,356 --> 01:06:27,401
{\an8}BARNETT:
We're gonna do our welcome prayer.
1074
01:06:27,484 --> 01:06:29,695
{\an8}We're gonna do a prayer
for Melvin and Licurtis,
1075
01:06:29,778 --> 01:06:31,321
{\an8}then we're gonna pray for the inmates,
1076
01:06:31,405 --> 01:06:33,532
{\an8}even though they may be guilty,
some may be innocent.
1077
01:06:33,615 --> 01:06:35,909
I've gotten seven men out of jail
that were innocent.
1078
01:06:35,992 --> 01:06:37,553
They're still human beings. They mess up.
1079
01:06:37,577 --> 01:06:39,337
- (overlapping agreements)
- WOMAN: Hallelujah.
1080
01:06:39,413 --> 01:06:41,182
Nelson Mandela was charged,
but he got out, right?
1081
01:06:41,206 --> 01:06:42,290
(overlapping agreements)
1082
01:06:42,374 --> 01:06:44,918
I want the Reels family in the front,
of course.
1083
01:06:45,001 --> 01:06:46,761
- Anybody need a sign?
- MAMIE: Where's my mom?
1084
01:06:46,837 --> 01:06:49,506
- Yeah. -Me, too.
- Hands up. -Hallelujah.
1085
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:52,068
Thank you. -And here's
my white brothers and sisters right here.
1086
01:06:52,092 --> 01:06:54,094
(cheering)
1087
01:06:55,178 --> 01:06:56,555
We're all one family.
1088
01:06:56,638 --> 01:06:59,349
- BARNETT: Hands up! Hands up!
- CROWD: Don't shoot! Don't shoot!
1089
01:06:59,433 --> 01:07:02,227
- Hands up! Hands up!
- Don't shoot! Don't shoot!
1090
01:07:02,310 --> 01:07:03,687
- Hands up!
- Don't shoot!
1091
01:07:03,770 --> 01:07:05,230
- No justice!
- No peace!
1092
01:07:05,313 --> 01:07:07,166
REPORTER (on TV):
It's not as easy as it sounds.
1093
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:10,360
The big guys are rare to come by,
and Gregory tells me
1094
01:07:10,444 --> 01:07:13,447
he knows captains who have fished
for years and still have...
1095
01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:15,532
- ♪ ♪
- (rain falling)
1096
01:07:22,247 --> 01:07:24,249
(birds chirping)
1097
01:07:44,144 --> 01:07:47,147
MAN 1: "Hello, Daddy,
I haven't seen you in a long time,
1098
01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:49,775
"but I hope you know
I think about you all the time.
1099
01:07:49,858 --> 01:07:53,236
I really do miss you, Daddy.
I'm living in Raleigh with my girlfriend."
1100
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,281
MAN 2:
"Dear Melvin, I miss you very much.
1101
01:07:56,364 --> 01:07:59,367
"I want to thank you
for everything you have done for me.
1102
01:07:59,451 --> 01:08:01,495
You were there for me
when no one else was."
1103
01:08:01,578 --> 01:08:04,915
CHILD: "Dear Melvin,
I have not seen you in a while.
1104
01:08:04,998 --> 01:08:07,375
"We have not seen you in a while.
1105
01:08:07,459 --> 01:08:08,960
We are so sorry that..."
1106
01:08:09,044 --> 01:08:12,214
MAN 1:
"Daddy, I think about you all the time.
1107
01:08:12,297 --> 01:08:16,885
"I even have dreams about you, me and
little Melvin working on the boat together
1108
01:08:16,968 --> 01:08:20,972
and waving at Uncle Billy
while he's going back to the dock."
1109
01:08:22,015 --> 01:08:24,017
♪ ♪
1110
01:08:25,727 --> 01:08:27,729
(wind whistling)
1111
01:08:31,149 --> 01:08:34,402
WOMAN: Uh, as expected,
Hurricane Irene made landfall,
1112
01:08:34,486 --> 01:08:37,697
uh, early this morning
along the North Carolina coast.
1113
01:08:37,781 --> 01:08:40,492
(fading): I have spoken with
Governor Perdue this morning.
1114
01:08:42,410 --> 01:08:45,163
- Not yet.
- (laughs)
1115
01:08:45,247 --> 01:08:47,266
REPORTER: With less than six months
left in the White House,
1116
01:08:47,290 --> 01:08:49,584
President Obama arrived onstage
in Charlotte
1117
01:08:49,668 --> 01:08:52,087
with a woman he's pledging his vote for
in November.
1118
01:08:52,170 --> 01:08:55,131
OBAMA:
I have run my last campaign.
1119
01:08:55,215 --> 01:08:57,968
NEWSMAN: The Clinton campaign said
it picked up the tab...
1120
01:09:00,345 --> 01:09:03,014
MAMIE:
This is Licurtis from Gertrude.
1121
01:09:06,852 --> 01:09:09,437
This is Licurtis from Gertrude.
1122
01:09:10,522 --> 01:09:13,108
And Melvin...
1123
01:09:13,191 --> 01:09:14,860
from Gertrude.
1124
01:09:14,943 --> 01:09:17,028
(birds chirping)
1125
01:09:17,112 --> 01:09:19,239
Christmas was hard.
1126
01:09:20,407 --> 01:09:25,620
Every year, my mother would shop for them
like she did everybody else,
1127
01:09:25,704 --> 01:09:27,747
and she would put their gifts
1128
01:09:27,831 --> 01:09:29,624
under the tree.
1129
01:09:29,708 --> 01:09:32,419
So, we were holding on to...
1130
01:09:32,502 --> 01:09:36,548
call it false hopes.
1131
01:09:36,631 --> 01:09:38,967
And every year,
1132
01:09:39,050 --> 01:09:43,346
my mother kept
buying their Christmas gifts.
1133
01:09:44,639 --> 01:09:50,812
And she had a Christmas gift
when they got out for eight years.
1134
01:09:50,896 --> 01:09:53,523
They had eight years' worth
of Christmas gifts.
1135
01:09:56,776 --> 01:09:59,863
{\an8}JAMES HAIRSTON:
Adams Creek and their attorneys,
1136
01:09:59,946 --> 01:10:04,951
{\an8}they had other options
under the current 2011 order.
1137
01:10:05,035 --> 01:10:08,079
{\an8}They could have easily torn down
their property,
1138
01:10:08,163 --> 01:10:12,167
{\an8}um, removed all of the structures,
cleaned the land off.
1139
01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:17,005
Come up with a bill of the cost
of that endeavor
1140
01:10:17,088 --> 01:10:22,010
and had a civil judgment placed
against Mr. Davis and Mr. Reels.
1141
01:10:22,093 --> 01:10:24,095
It didn't require their incarceration.
1142
01:10:24,179 --> 01:10:28,516
You know, the elephant in the room
in this case is race.
1143
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,686
I don't argue race
if I don't have the anecdotal fact,
1144
01:10:31,770 --> 01:10:36,316
and I don't have the anecdotal fact,
I'm not accusing anyone of anything.
1145
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,570
But comparatively speaking, you know,
this is... this order is an abomination.
1146
01:10:40,654 --> 01:10:44,240
It's as if that, you know,
you're gonna teach these guys a lesson,
1147
01:10:44,324 --> 01:10:48,787
and so the family can shout
from the rooftops, um, the truth.
1148
01:10:49,996 --> 01:10:51,331
Nobody listened to them.
1149
01:11:01,633 --> 01:11:02,884
MAMIE:
So, now is the day,
1150
01:11:02,968 --> 01:11:07,722
and again, some were thinking
it will be tomorrow, Thursday.
1151
01:11:07,806 --> 01:11:11,518
So it's like they almost don't...
1152
01:11:11,601 --> 01:11:14,020
don't want that courtroom
packed with a lot of people.
1153
01:11:14,104 --> 01:11:16,106
GERTRUDE:
Uh-uh.
1154
01:11:16,189 --> 01:11:17,482
I-I don't know.
1155
01:11:17,565 --> 01:11:20,110
Now, that's how you know
things ain't right.
1156
01:11:20,193 --> 01:11:21,611
GERTRUDE:
Right. Mm-hmm.
1157
01:11:21,695 --> 01:11:26,533
'Cause if they were right,
they would do 'em decent and in order.
1158
01:11:26,616 --> 01:11:28,034
That's true.
1159
01:11:28,118 --> 01:11:31,162
REPORTER (over radio): The NRCS...
Natural Resources Conversation Service...
1160
01:11:31,246 --> 01:11:33,540
Has been working on developing
a specific program
1161
01:11:33,623 --> 01:11:36,835
for Native American land
with limited results so far.
1162
01:11:36,918 --> 01:11:40,005
And the ownership structure
of land on reservations makes
1163
01:11:40,088 --> 01:11:41,840
program eligibility rather difficult.
1164
01:11:41,923 --> 01:11:44,092
On another note, new numbers are out
for this year's...
1165
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:50,140
MAMIE:
Dear God, we ask that you use the lawyer
1166
01:11:50,223 --> 01:11:52,308
in a way that he's never been used before.
1167
01:11:52,392 --> 01:11:54,602
And dear God, we ask you give us courage.
1168
01:11:54,686 --> 01:11:58,565
We ask us to give...
We ask you to give us strength.
1169
01:11:58,648 --> 01:12:01,526
In all we do, dear God,
we give you glory and praises.
1170
01:12:01,609 --> 01:12:05,321
- In Jesus' name we pray, amen.
- OTHERS: Amen.
1171
01:12:05,405 --> 01:12:08,074
MAMIE:
The last lawyer we had was James Hairston.
1172
01:12:09,409 --> 01:12:13,246
And he presented the case.
1173
01:12:13,329 --> 01:12:17,459
He proved that Licurtis and Melvin, um...
1174
01:12:17,542 --> 01:12:21,713
could not pay the sanctions
that had been put upon them.
1175
01:12:21,796 --> 01:12:23,965
- But the court is that way.
- He proved that
1176
01:12:24,049 --> 01:12:28,094
keeping them in jails for eight years
1177
01:12:28,178 --> 01:12:30,263
wasn't something they could do.
1178
01:12:31,556 --> 01:12:35,310
And...
1179
01:12:35,393 --> 01:12:38,146
the court sided with him,
1180
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:42,150
but... that was it.
1181
01:12:42,233 --> 01:12:43,985
(indistinct chatter)
1182
01:12:44,069 --> 01:12:45,403
- They're coming out.
- Hey.
1183
01:12:45,487 --> 01:12:47,489
- They're coming out.
- (laughs): All right.
1184
01:12:47,572 --> 01:12:50,366
- Yeah, they're coming out.
- (indistinct chatter)
1185
01:12:50,450 --> 01:12:51,826
God.
1186
01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:53,912
(indistinct chatter)
1187
01:13:00,085 --> 01:13:02,087
♪ ♪
1188
01:13:04,089 --> 01:13:06,091
(chains clinking)
1189
01:13:24,109 --> 01:13:26,986
♪ ♪
1190
01:13:30,490 --> 01:13:32,992
(door buzzes)
1191
01:13:33,076 --> 01:13:35,078
(cheering)
1192
01:13:38,414 --> 01:13:40,414
- MAN: It's about time!
- (excited chatter, laughter)
1193
01:13:45,797 --> 01:13:47,799
♪ ♪
1194
01:13:50,677 --> 01:13:54,013
- Come on, all right?
- Oh, man.
1195
01:13:54,097 --> 01:13:56,099
(excited chatter)
1196
01:14:01,729 --> 01:14:04,149
Let me look at you good.
1197
01:14:15,577 --> 01:14:17,579
♪ ♪
1198
01:14:32,260 --> 01:14:35,680
(indistinct chatter)
1199
01:14:35,763 --> 01:14:38,016
(laughter)
1200
01:14:40,476 --> 01:14:42,604
GERTRUDE:
Let him see his house.
1201
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:48,193
LICURTIS:
Oh, your house looks good.
1202
01:14:48,276 --> 01:14:50,570
- MAMIE: Doesn't it?
- LICURTIS: Yeah.
1203
01:14:51,738 --> 01:14:53,740
{\an8}-♪ ♪
- (muffled, indistinct chatter)
1204
01:14:58,369 --> 01:15:00,038
{\an8}MAMIE:
It's still standing, ain't it?
1205
01:15:00,121 --> 01:15:02,516
LICURTIS: Yeah, as long as it's standing,
that's all that counts.
1206
01:15:02,540 --> 01:15:04,876
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
1207
01:15:04,959 --> 01:15:06,961
(laughter)
1208
01:15:08,254 --> 01:15:10,548
MAN:
Man, how you doing, man?
1209
01:15:10,632 --> 01:15:12,133
LICURTIS:
Ah, okay, okay.
1210
01:15:12,217 --> 01:15:13,968
(laughter)
1211
01:15:14,052 --> 01:15:15,678
MAN:
Oh, man.
1212
01:15:18,264 --> 01:15:20,808
- MAMIE: Hey, boy, here.
- Come on.
1213
01:15:20,892 --> 01:15:22,352
MAMIE:
Come on, let's go.
1214
01:15:22,435 --> 01:15:23,436
{\an8}Hey.
1215
01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:25,188
{\an8}(chuckles)
1216
01:15:25,271 --> 01:15:27,523
{\an8}Come on out here. Come with me.
1217
01:15:27,815 --> 01:15:29,525
I've been thinking about you the most.
1218
01:15:29,609 --> 01:15:31,152
How you doing?
1219
01:15:31,236 --> 01:15:33,446
- (Martin mutters)
- Yeah, let me get that.
1220
01:15:33,529 --> 01:15:35,448
(chatter fades)
1221
01:15:36,824 --> 01:15:38,284
MELVIN:
Man.
1222
01:15:39,702 --> 01:15:41,829
That my tractor.
1223
01:15:43,289 --> 01:15:45,917
The guy that stole it wasn't doing
something, I'll tell you that.
1224
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,671
Man, the fish house torn down.
1225
01:15:51,047 --> 01:15:54,676
Oh, that's a... that's a crime scene.
1226
01:15:57,262 --> 01:16:01,224
It-it just ain't the same down here
no more.
1227
01:16:01,307 --> 01:16:03,518
It ain't the same no more.
1228
01:16:12,944 --> 01:16:16,030
Adams Creek Associates.
1229
01:16:18,241 --> 01:16:22,412
Man, that won't fly.
1230
01:16:22,495 --> 01:16:24,080
Ain't gonna fly.
1231
01:16:25,081 --> 01:16:27,083
- (birds squawking)
- (insects trilling)
1232
01:16:33,881 --> 01:16:37,635
Well, they can't stop me
from going to this land.
1233
01:16:37,719 --> 01:16:39,220
I built all of this.
1234
01:16:40,305 --> 01:16:42,098
Um...
1235
01:16:43,308 --> 01:16:45,560
Come on, let's go back there.
1236
01:16:46,561 --> 01:16:48,813
I feel good to be home.
1237
01:16:48,896 --> 01:16:52,317
I feel good to be home, and...
1238
01:16:54,319 --> 01:16:56,988
I really feel real good to be home.
1239
01:16:57,071 --> 01:17:00,116
MAMIE:
I want to thank everybody for coming.
1240
01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:02,869
For just stopping what you're doing
at the last minute
1241
01:17:02,952 --> 01:17:05,496
'cause this wasn't something
that we planned.
1242
01:17:05,580 --> 01:17:09,167
- WOMAN: Period.
- It was something that God had in order,
1243
01:17:09,250 --> 01:17:12,712
and when he said they released them boys,
we just went and did it.
1244
01:17:12,795 --> 01:17:16,007
- OTHERS: Amen.
- And I don't know, I just said potluck,
1245
01:17:16,090 --> 01:17:19,302
and the family and Facebook kicked in.
1246
01:17:19,385 --> 01:17:23,890
Let this be a testimony,
'cause our job ain't finished.
1247
01:17:23,973 --> 01:17:25,892
- (overlapping agreements)
- It ain't finished.
1248
01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:29,312
You know ain't nowhere in the world...
In Merrimon, we ain't got nowhere to go.
1249
01:17:29,395 --> 01:17:33,232
So, what I'm saying is, we are family.
1250
01:17:33,316 --> 01:17:36,778
I don't care what shall come,
we are family.
1251
01:17:36,861 --> 01:17:38,363
But I'm saying, let's continue
1252
01:17:38,446 --> 01:17:40,656
to get together
'cause we got to get this water back.
1253
01:17:40,740 --> 01:17:43,368
- OTHERS: Mm-hmm.
- We got to get Li back in his house
1254
01:17:43,451 --> 01:17:47,372
so him and Frenchie and them can cook
them beans with pig feets in 'em.
1255
01:17:47,455 --> 01:17:48,623
(laughter)
1256
01:17:48,706 --> 01:17:51,667
Yesterday, I was in Roses,
1257
01:17:51,751 --> 01:17:54,504
and it was a teacher,
and she knew Janine and them
1258
01:17:54,587 --> 01:17:57,548
- 'cause they were all some bad children.
- (laughter)
1259
01:17:57,632 --> 01:18:00,051
They wasn't bad when they were big.
1260
01:18:00,134 --> 01:18:02,595
Janine was history. Black Power.
1261
01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:04,305
(laughter)
1262
01:18:04,389 --> 01:18:06,432
GIRLS (singing):
♪ Ride till I can't no more ♪
1263
01:18:06,516 --> 01:18:08,434
- ♪ I got the horses in the back ♪
- ♪ Okay ♪
1264
01:18:08,518 --> 01:18:10,186
♪ Horse tack is attached, hey ♪
1265
01:18:10,269 --> 01:18:12,647
♪ Hat is matte black, got the boots
that's black to match ♪
1266
01:18:12,730 --> 01:18:14,357
Wait, stop. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
1267
01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:16,067
Someone make a beat.
1268
01:18:16,150 --> 01:18:18,253
Wait. Wh-Whoa. Yeah, 'cause
I want to freestyle real quick.
1269
01:18:18,277 --> 01:18:20,863
- (overlapping excited chatter)
- Make a beat, make a beat.
1270
01:18:20,947 --> 01:18:22,365
All right.
1271
01:18:22,448 --> 01:18:24,450
(rhythmic clapping)
1272
01:18:25,993 --> 01:18:27,537
- Okay.
- Yeah.
1273
01:18:27,620 --> 01:18:29,872
- ♪ This is our beach, this is our land ♪
- Uh-huh. Right.
1274
01:18:29,956 --> 01:18:31,374
- Mm-hmm.
- ♪ This is our water ♪
1275
01:18:31,457 --> 01:18:33,084
- ♪ Our club, everything ♪
- Mm-hmm.
1276
01:18:33,167 --> 01:18:35,503
- ♪ This is our land, this is our water ♪
- Okay.
1277
01:18:35,586 --> 01:18:38,381
- Oh, yeah.
- ♪ This is our club, our space, anything ♪
1278
01:18:38,464 --> 01:18:41,551
- Oh. Okay.
- ♪ This is our land, this is our water ♪
1279
01:18:41,634 --> 01:18:44,971
- ♪ This is our club, our space, anything ♪
- Okay.
1280
01:18:45,054 --> 01:18:47,557
♪ We got everything, we are really free ♪
1281
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,685
♪ We are everything,
we can walk down the streets ♪
1282
01:18:50,768 --> 01:18:52,770
- Okay.
- (grunting rhythmically)
1283
01:18:54,272 --> 01:18:55,606
♪ This is mine. ♪
1284
01:18:55,690 --> 01:18:58,443
{\an8}Billy, Billy, can you come on this side?
1285
01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:01,320
{\an8}Right next to, um...
1286
01:19:01,404 --> 01:19:03,448
{\an8}-Right next to me.
- Yeah. Yeah.
1287
01:19:03,739 --> 01:19:05,092
- Let me see the long lens again.
- Yeah.
1288
01:19:05,116 --> 01:19:06,367
Actually, no, this is good.
1289
01:19:06,451 --> 01:19:08,327
Licurtis, come on the other side.
1290
01:19:08,411 --> 01:19:10,705
You want to put me beside him, huh?
1291
01:19:10,788 --> 01:19:13,499
(laughter)
1292
01:19:13,583 --> 01:19:16,002
Come... come in closer, bro.
1293
01:19:20,006 --> 01:19:21,924
Beautiful.
1294
01:19:22,008 --> 01:19:24,093
(camera clicking)
1295
01:19:54,707 --> 01:19:56,626
♪ ♪
1296
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:59,545
(thunder rumbling)
1297
01:20:17,772 --> 01:20:21,192
MAMIE:
When I look at the justice system now,
1298
01:20:21,275 --> 01:20:24,695
even with this case,
1299
01:20:24,779 --> 01:20:27,659
when we were right, we were right,
and when we were wrong, we were wrong.
1300
01:20:27,740 --> 01:20:29,909
And it didn't matter what,
we weren't right,
1301
01:20:29,992 --> 01:20:33,913
and even when we were right,
we were wrong to the court system.
1302
01:20:33,996 --> 01:20:38,084
And do I believe Black people are
ever gonna be treated equal?
1303
01:20:38,167 --> 01:20:40,294
No. No.
1304
01:20:40,378 --> 01:20:42,713
The justice system? No.
1305
01:20:42,797 --> 01:20:45,049
Do I see things changing? No.
1306
01:20:45,132 --> 01:20:49,345
If we haven't changed in 60-some years
we've been fighting this case,
1307
01:20:49,428 --> 01:20:53,808
they haven't changed
from the day Martin Luther King started,
1308
01:20:53,891 --> 01:20:55,768
do I see things changing?
1309
01:20:55,851 --> 01:20:57,645
No.
1310
01:20:57,728 --> 01:20:59,522
No, I-I don't,
1311
01:20:59,605 --> 01:21:03,276
because people hearts are wax cold,
1312
01:21:03,359 --> 01:21:05,194
and it's all about money.
1313
01:21:13,953 --> 01:21:15,913
This is not our bread,
1314
01:21:15,997 --> 01:21:17,915
- but you got it from Gordon, so...
- Okay.
1315
01:21:17,999 --> 01:21:21,419
- This will fall all to pieces.
- Maybe not.
1316
01:21:22,837 --> 01:21:24,964
MAMIE:
Where's she at?
1317
01:21:25,047 --> 01:21:27,133
Good morning, Gert.
1318
01:21:27,216 --> 01:21:30,428
- How are you doing?
- I'm doing fine. How are you doing?
1319
01:21:30,511 --> 01:21:33,806
How it feel to be up at 10:20
in the morning?
1320
01:21:34,807 --> 01:21:37,018
- It feels bad.
- (laughter)
1321
01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:40,896
(sizzling)
1322
01:21:45,610 --> 01:21:47,945
- I don't like cooking.
- I love cooking.
1323
01:21:48,029 --> 01:21:50,364
I like for people to enjoy our food.
I like it.
1324
01:21:50,448 --> 01:21:52,491
Well, then, I'm-a hire you, then.
How about that?
1325
01:21:52,575 --> 01:21:53,909
But I used to like cooking.
1326
01:21:53,993 --> 01:21:57,580
- (laughs) I'm-a hire you, then.
- Believe me.
1327
01:21:57,663 --> 01:21:59,415
Uncle Li, your food is cold now.
1328
01:21:59,498 --> 01:22:01,792
- MAMIE: I was calling you.
- LICURTIS: For what?
1329
01:22:01,876 --> 01:22:03,961
To come and eat.
1330
01:22:04,045 --> 01:22:06,380
- I might.
- Oh, no, you're gonna eat that food.
1331
01:22:06,464 --> 01:22:08,132
Oh, yeah, you're gonna come eat that food
1332
01:22:08,215 --> 01:22:10,509
somebody set and take their time
to cook break...
1333
01:22:10,593 --> 01:22:11,927
That's why I don't like cooking.
1334
01:22:12,011 --> 01:22:14,388
KIM: Yeah, he said,
Mama said he wanted breakfast.
1335
01:22:14,472 --> 01:22:16,312
- Had he not said that, then...
- Giving you lip.
1336
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:18,559
(Licurtis clears throat)
1337
01:22:18,643 --> 01:22:20,394
KIM:
You do whatever she say do, don't you?
1338
01:22:20,478 --> 01:22:21,896
Wash your hands!
1339
01:22:21,979 --> 01:22:23,314
Right there.
1340
01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:26,233
Mamie, give up.
1341
01:22:26,317 --> 01:22:28,152
- Come on, Mamie.
- No.
1342
01:22:28,235 --> 01:22:29,862
Y'all are trying to get on my bad side.
1343
01:22:29,945 --> 01:22:31,632
- I'm already on your bad side.
- Um, I don't care about
1344
01:22:31,656 --> 01:22:33,366
getting on your bad side.
1345
01:22:33,449 --> 01:22:35,451
I'm still on your bad side.
1346
01:22:35,534 --> 01:22:38,287
Everybody's gonna get on his bad side.
1347
01:22:38,371 --> 01:22:41,374
He don't even know his bad side
from his good side.
1348
01:22:41,457 --> 01:22:43,125
Sit down on your good side.
1349
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:46,837
- That's a lot of side to sit on.
- MAMIE: Mm-hmm.
1350
01:22:46,921 --> 01:22:49,590
(Licurtis laughs)
1351
01:22:49,674 --> 01:22:51,592
(birds chirping)
1352
01:22:56,180 --> 01:22:58,766
MELVIN:
I try to hold-hold it down, man.
1353
01:22:58,849 --> 01:23:00,267
It pisses me off.
1354
01:23:00,351 --> 01:23:04,105
I don't come down here
because I know what I'm liable to do.
1355
01:23:04,188 --> 01:23:07,358
All this stuff I built out here...
1356
01:23:07,441 --> 01:23:10,444
Blowed my boat up, cut this up.
1357
01:23:16,742 --> 01:23:18,411
We just moved over there.
1358
01:23:18,494 --> 01:23:21,080
Th-That's where you could put
the boats and stuff out.
1359
01:23:21,163 --> 01:23:23,749
And get it on... have a boat ramp.
1360
01:23:23,833 --> 01:23:26,001
Now, we got a boat ramp there.
1361
01:23:26,085 --> 01:23:28,546
We got a boat ramp right over there.
1362
01:23:28,629 --> 01:23:32,758
But now it's time
for the guys to start shrimping.
1363
01:23:34,051 --> 01:23:36,804
And-and make them some money.
1364
01:23:36,887 --> 01:23:40,391
See? This is the time of the year
that we goes to the water,
1365
01:23:40,474 --> 01:23:44,687
and we stay on the water
until... until it's all over.
1366
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,649
Made good money.
1367
01:23:48,733 --> 01:23:52,236
Uncle Charles, so,
what we're trying to do now basically...
1368
01:23:52,319 --> 01:23:54,697
- Mm-hmm. Okay.
- is, um, figure out what we're gonna do
1369
01:23:54,780 --> 01:23:58,033
with the rest of the remaining property
that's in good standing.
1370
01:23:58,117 --> 01:23:59,326
Yes.
1371
01:23:59,410 --> 01:24:01,078
So we have to come up with a plan,
1372
01:24:01,162 --> 01:24:03,664
- implement something on, you know...
- CHARLES: Mm-hmm. I agree.
1373
01:24:03,748 --> 01:24:06,459
finding someone that's able and...
1374
01:24:06,542 --> 01:24:11,547
available to be the new administrator
over this situation
1375
01:24:11,630 --> 01:24:14,133
'cause we know
Grandma's getting older, and...
1376
01:24:14,216 --> 01:24:15,760
My-my mother.
1377
01:24:15,843 --> 01:24:19,305
And Aunt Classie's unable
to do it as well.
1378
01:24:19,388 --> 01:24:22,933
I think it'd be fine
to have a new administration
1379
01:24:23,017 --> 01:24:26,687
'cause I'm getting old, forgetful.
1380
01:24:26,771 --> 01:24:31,233
So, that's it.
1381
01:24:31,317 --> 01:24:33,611
Scariest thing for me is:
1382
01:24:33,694 --> 01:24:39,366
What happens when that 95-year-old woman
called Gertrude Reels...
1383
01:24:39,450 --> 01:24:42,953
What happens to Silver Dollar Road
when she pass?
1384
01:24:44,330 --> 01:24:49,960
Will the next generation care enough
to save Silver Dollar Road?
1385
01:24:50,044 --> 01:24:52,129
They might.
1386
01:24:52,213 --> 01:24:54,131
{\an8}-(motor rattling)
- (birds squawking)
1387
01:24:54,215 --> 01:24:56,592
{\an8}♪ ♪
1388
01:25:02,932 --> 01:25:04,934
(whirring)
1389
01:25:18,697 --> 01:25:22,451
Well, Nate, I always wanted to see,
and now I see, huh?
1390
01:25:23,994 --> 01:25:28,415
I always wanted to come out here
and ride the water and see.
1391
01:25:28,499 --> 01:25:31,418
Aw, man. This is awesome.
1392
01:25:31,502 --> 01:25:35,589
So, on the water,
it sort of looks backwards.
1393
01:25:38,634 --> 01:25:40,928
NATE:
I'm Nate.
1394
01:25:41,011 --> 01:25:44,807
Mamie's my grandma.
Melvin's my uncle. Licurtis is my uncle.
1395
01:25:44,890 --> 01:25:48,519
Have two kids, and I'm
a commercial fisherman for a living.
1396
01:25:51,021 --> 01:25:55,317
Typical day, I mean, might catch
a few hundred pounds on average.
1397
01:25:55,401 --> 01:25:57,361
Some days you don't catch anything.
1398
01:25:57,444 --> 01:26:00,072
Some days you can catch
thousands of pounds in minutes.
1399
01:26:00,155 --> 01:26:01,282
Every day is different.
1400
01:26:03,826 --> 01:26:06,161
With what we catch, nine out of ten,
1401
01:26:06,245 --> 01:26:10,165
if you catch a good bit,
you carry it to the fish house.
1402
01:26:10,249 --> 01:26:13,460
The fish house sets their price
to what they can make money,
1403
01:26:13,544 --> 01:26:18,507
and then the fishermen get whatever
the fish house is gonna give them.
1404
01:26:18,591 --> 01:26:23,387
Last year, they were trying to close
all the inside waters in North Carolina,
1405
01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:25,973
where the little boats like me
can go work.
1406
01:26:26,056 --> 01:26:30,686
Now they're trying to make it to where
only three miles and off you can shrimp,
1407
01:26:30,769 --> 01:26:33,898
but the bigger boats, they can go out
in the ocean and stay for weeks.
1408
01:26:33,981 --> 01:26:35,858
Unlike us, we don't hold as much fuel.
1409
01:26:35,941 --> 01:26:38,569
We don't hold as much ice.
We can't hold as much groceries.
1410
01:26:38,652 --> 01:26:41,322
And then there's gonna be guys
with boats like mine,
1411
01:26:41,405 --> 01:26:43,741
my size, that go out there and get killed.
1412
01:26:43,824 --> 01:26:47,161
I mean, the ocean is no joke
compared to in here.
1413
01:26:47,244 --> 01:26:51,874
It's not... nowhere near as much
rough seas, the weather's different.
1414
01:26:51,957 --> 01:26:56,086
And at the worst, you're
a quarter mile away from the shoreline.
1415
01:26:56,170 --> 01:26:58,672
You're not three miles off shore
fighting sharks,
1416
01:26:58,756 --> 01:27:00,841
eating your nets up and everything.
1417
01:27:00,925 --> 01:27:03,385
It's a huge difference
working inside and outside.
1418
01:27:03,469 --> 01:27:07,097
So, is this the way
you came shrimping this morning?
1419
01:27:07,181 --> 01:27:10,392
I drove from here to out there
and come back.
1420
01:27:11,518 --> 01:27:13,187
And did a basket?
1421
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:14,605
- Yeah.
- That's good.
1422
01:27:14,688 --> 01:27:16,065
That's...
1423
01:27:16,148 --> 01:27:18,043
NATE: I think I'm gonna try
to start another business
1424
01:27:18,067 --> 01:27:20,736
outside of commercial fishing
just so, if all else fails,
1425
01:27:20,819 --> 01:27:22,738
I got a way to feed my family.
1426
01:27:22,821 --> 01:27:24,823
♪ ♪
1427
01:27:26,617 --> 01:27:28,118
We'll stay out here...
1428
01:27:28,202 --> 01:27:30,329
MELVIN:
We've been in this water all our life.
1429
01:27:31,705 --> 01:27:33,874
That's why we know it.
1430
01:27:33,958 --> 01:27:36,710
I got nephews out there
right now shrimping.
1431
01:27:36,794 --> 01:27:38,587
But they got no way to get to the water.
1432
01:27:38,671 --> 01:27:42,466
They took the-the best spot
that we had to fish,
1433
01:27:42,549 --> 01:27:47,179
that-that... that we would have to work on
where we had our boat
1434
01:27:47,262 --> 01:27:50,641
with the deepest water,
they took that away.
1435
01:27:50,724 --> 01:27:52,726
(waves crashing)
1436
01:27:59,316 --> 01:28:01,360
MAMIE:
Wow, this is awesome.
1437
01:28:05,739 --> 01:28:07,866
NATE:
And my grandma, she's a fighter.
1438
01:28:07,950 --> 01:28:10,327
She tries to bring everybody
back together.
1439
01:28:10,411 --> 01:28:12,413
It don't always work, but she never fails.
1440
01:28:12,496 --> 01:28:13,664
She's gonna try.
1441
01:28:13,747 --> 01:28:18,002
To a sense, I do accept
taking responsibility of that land,
1442
01:28:18,085 --> 01:28:20,212
'cause that's
where I want to raise my kids at.
1443
01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:21,880
That's where I want to be at.
1444
01:28:21,964 --> 01:28:24,604
So when it comes time, I feel
I'll probably be one of the only ones
1445
01:28:24,633 --> 01:28:27,386
that puts up a fight,
and I'm not gonna be able to do it alone.
1446
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:31,306
If they win the land back,
I see it going great.
1447
01:28:31,390 --> 01:28:32,909
'Cause Uncle Melvin is
already talking about
1448
01:28:32,933 --> 01:28:34,518
his plans of building a fish house,
1449
01:28:34,601 --> 01:28:37,730
making sure we got fuel, ice,
all the things that he had before,
1450
01:28:37,813 --> 01:28:39,690
he said he wants to do it again.
1451
01:28:39,773 --> 01:28:43,819
I see everybody in the family
coming back to commercial fishing again
1452
01:28:43,902 --> 01:28:47,614
so we never have to go to fish houses
and get cheated.
1453
01:28:47,698 --> 01:28:50,659
I feel like it would be a lot better
family-ran.
1454
01:28:50,743 --> 01:28:52,995
(birds squawking)
1455
01:28:53,078 --> 01:28:55,664
♪ Oh, Lord ♪
1456
01:28:55,748 --> 01:28:58,751
♪ Mm ♪
1457
01:28:58,834 --> 01:29:02,421
♪ Show me ♪
1458
01:29:02,504 --> 01:29:07,259
♪ The way ♪
1459
01:29:07,342 --> 01:29:11,221
♪ Oh, Lord ♪
1460
01:29:11,305 --> 01:29:15,434
♪ Show me ♪
1461
01:29:15,517 --> 01:29:21,315
- ♪ Show me the way ♪
- ♪ The way ♪
1462
01:29:22,649 --> 01:29:29,114
- ♪ Said I'm down, down here, Lord ♪
- ♪ Down here, Lord ♪
1463
01:29:29,198 --> 01:29:35,537
- ♪ And I need your power ♪
- ♪ Father Lord, I need your power ♪
1464
01:29:35,621 --> 01:29:41,543
- ♪ Show, show me ♪
- ♪ Show me ♪
1465
01:29:41,627 --> 01:29:44,254
♪ Show me the way ♪
1466
01:29:44,338 --> 01:29:47,424
♪ Lord, I'm your child ♪
1467
01:29:47,508 --> 01:29:51,220
- ♪ Yes, I am ♪
- (lively chatter)
1468
01:29:51,303 --> 01:29:54,681
♪ Your child ♪
1469
01:29:54,765 --> 01:29:58,268
♪ I haven't been good all my days ♪
1470
01:29:58,352 --> 01:30:01,605
- ♪ Lord ♪
- ♪ But, Lord ♪
1471
01:30:01,688 --> 01:30:06,693
- ♪ I'm your child ♪
- ♪ I'm still your child ♪
1472
01:30:06,777 --> 01:30:11,532
- ♪ Father, I'm down here ♪
- ♪ Down here ♪
1473
01:30:11,615 --> 01:30:14,785
♪ In this mean world ♪
1474
01:30:14,868 --> 01:30:19,790
- ♪ And, Lord, Lord, I need your power ♪
- ♪ And I need your power ♪
1475
01:30:19,873 --> 01:30:25,129
- ♪ Show, show me ♪
- ♪ Show me ♪
1476
01:30:25,212 --> 01:30:28,090
- ♪ Show me the way ♪
- ♪ The way ♪
1477
01:30:28,173 --> 01:30:33,637
♪ While the Lord is running warm
in your veins ♪
1478
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:38,517
♪ Look up toward heaven way and say ♪
1479
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,896
♪ Father Lord, I need your power ♪
1480
01:30:42,980 --> 01:30:45,274
♪ Show ♪
1481
01:30:45,357 --> 01:30:48,694
- ♪ Father, show me ♪
- ♪ Show me ♪
1482
01:30:48,777 --> 01:30:51,864
- ♪ Show me the way ♪
- ♪ The way ♪
1483
01:30:51,947 --> 01:30:54,867
♪ Lord, show ♪
1484
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:59,705
- ♪ Show me ♪
- ♪ Father, show me ♪
1485
01:30:59,788 --> 01:31:03,417
♪ The way. ♪
1486
01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:05,627
I just want to thank everybody
for coming today.
1487
01:31:05,711 --> 01:31:07,629
As you all know, I wanted to get...
1488
01:31:07,713 --> 01:31:09,756
Or we all wanted to get together
for Memorial Day,
1489
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:13,677
just to have a celebration to say...
To celebrate family,
1490
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,763
you know, also celebrate our vets
and our graduates.
1491
01:31:16,847 --> 01:31:18,223
- (shushes)
- You know, we-we...
1492
01:31:18,307 --> 01:31:20,934
we didn't have it real,
real hard growing up.
1493
01:31:21,018 --> 01:31:24,688
We had it a little easy, but still
we thank God where we come from.
1494
01:31:24,771 --> 01:31:28,192
My-my grandfather had pigs and hogs,
tobacco, watermelon.
1495
01:31:28,275 --> 01:31:31,195
He had some of it all, but...
1496
01:31:31,278 --> 01:31:33,697
And we didn't have to
really want for nothing,
1497
01:31:33,780 --> 01:31:36,491
'cause Aunt Gray had
a garden bigger than this playground.
1498
01:31:36,575 --> 01:31:40,037
And we'd go to steal, steal cucumber
and tomato when she'd go to work.
1499
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,080
- (laughter)
- And she would put flour on them
1500
01:31:42,164 --> 01:31:45,375
and tell us they were poisoned
so we got scared and wouldn't eat them,
1501
01:31:45,459 --> 01:31:48,128
but we caught on to her and said,
"Wait a second,
1502
01:31:48,212 --> 01:31:50,023
that ain't no poison, that's flour.
That's okay."
1503
01:31:50,047 --> 01:31:51,256
We washed it off and eat.
1504
01:31:51,340 --> 01:31:54,218
She said, "I'm-a fix y'all...
seen 'em every day, y'all steal 'em."
1505
01:31:54,301 --> 01:31:56,279
("Bikers' Shuffle" by Big Mucci playing
over speakers)
1506
01:31:56,303 --> 01:31:59,056
(lively chatter, laughter)
1507
01:31:59,139 --> 01:32:00,849
♪ Now kick with it, kick with it ♪
1508
01:32:00,933 --> 01:32:03,185
♪ Pop it in, now kick with it ♪
1509
01:32:03,268 --> 01:32:05,312
♪ Step to your right, now slide with it. ♪
1510
01:32:05,395 --> 01:32:07,665
- ("Wobble" by V.I.C. plays over speakers)
- (lively chatter, laughter)
1511
01:32:07,689 --> 01:32:10,025
♪ 'Ey, big girl, make 'em back it up ♪
1512
01:32:10,108 --> 01:32:12,069
♪ Make 'em back it up ♪
1513
01:32:12,152 --> 01:32:14,863
♪ 'Ey, big girl, make 'em back it up ♪
1514
01:32:14,947 --> 01:32:17,324
♪ Make 'em back it up ♪
1515
01:32:17,407 --> 01:32:19,368
♪ 'Ey, big girl, make 'em back it up ♪
1516
01:32:19,451 --> 01:32:20,744
♪ Make 'em... ♪
1517
01:32:20,827 --> 01:32:23,705
(lively chatter, laughter)
1518
01:32:23,789 --> 01:32:26,291
(upbeat song playing over speakers)
1519
01:32:26,375 --> 01:32:29,086
(chatter and laughter continue)
1520
01:32:29,169 --> 01:32:32,923
♪ Get your booty on the dance floor,
get your booty on the dance floor... ♪
1521
01:32:33,006 --> 01:32:36,009
("Family Reunion" by The O'Jays playing
over speakers)
1522
01:32:37,344 --> 01:32:39,680
♪ Now let's take a look at the family ♪
1523
01:32:41,473 --> 01:32:45,602
♪ In the family,
the father is like the head... ♪
1524
01:32:45,686 --> 01:32:48,146
- (music fades)
- (grunts softly)
1525
01:32:49,147 --> 01:32:51,149
♪ ♪
1526
01:32:52,276 --> 01:32:54,027
(muttering)
1527
01:32:55,821 --> 01:32:57,864
Mm, mm, mm.
1528
01:33:02,202 --> 01:33:05,372
LICURTIS: They took the best years
of my life, didn't they?
1529
01:33:07,457 --> 01:33:10,502
I went in at 52.
1530
01:33:10,585 --> 01:33:15,257
Come out at 61, 62.
1531
01:33:15,340 --> 01:33:17,259
Aw, man.
1532
01:33:19,344 --> 01:33:22,848
When I come home,
I went and sat on the front porch.
1533
01:33:22,931 --> 01:33:26,393
I said, "Lord, just give me the strength
1534
01:33:26,476 --> 01:33:30,814
not to hate and just go on with my life."
1535
01:33:31,898 --> 01:33:37,112
And I sat there and I cried about it,
and I cry about it now.
1536
01:33:39,281 --> 01:33:42,451
Kind of made me sick, you know,
1537
01:33:42,534 --> 01:33:46,330
to try to put people through sh...
Stuff like this here,
1538
01:33:46,413 --> 01:33:48,874
and... (sighs)
1539
01:33:48,957 --> 01:33:51,209
and I hadn't done nothing.
1540
01:33:52,294 --> 01:33:54,796
And like I tell you, man...
1541
01:33:58,175 --> 01:34:01,636
When you sit down and-and...
1542
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,640
and talk about this story here,
1543
01:34:05,724 --> 01:34:08,852
it makes me cry, you know that?
1544
01:34:08,935 --> 01:34:12,647
(breathes deeply)
That's why I stay in my room.
1545
01:34:14,232 --> 01:34:16,234
(laughing)
1546
01:34:20,155 --> 01:34:24,201
And sometimes I find myself crying
and don't even...
1547
01:34:24,284 --> 01:34:26,453
And I know why, you know what I'm saying?
1548
01:34:26,536 --> 01:34:29,748
But, you know... (exhales sharply)
1549
01:34:29,831 --> 01:34:32,125
(sniffles)
1550
01:34:36,254 --> 01:34:39,383
All I know... (sniffles)
1551
01:34:39,466 --> 01:34:41,885
it wasn't right.
1552
01:34:41,968 --> 01:34:44,596
("Wounded Heart" by Ondara playing)
1553
01:34:57,692 --> 01:35:01,446
♪ What are you doing? ♪
1554
01:35:01,530 --> 01:35:05,784
♪ Can't you see that
you're breaking me down? ♪
1555
01:35:05,867 --> 01:35:10,247
♪ Can't you see that my spirit ♪
1556
01:35:10,330 --> 01:35:14,334
♪ Is running on empty now? ♪
1557
01:35:14,418 --> 01:35:18,296
♪ What are you rolling? ♪
1558
01:35:18,380 --> 01:35:22,592
♪ Can't you see that
you're stealing my time? ♪
1559
01:35:22,676 --> 01:35:27,180
♪ Can't you see that my spirit ♪
1560
01:35:27,264 --> 01:35:31,351
♪ Is running on empty now? ♪
1561
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:39,401
♪ Will it heal my wounded heart? ♪
1562
01:35:41,987 --> 01:35:48,326
♪ Will it heal me before I fall apart? ♪
1563
01:35:50,412 --> 01:35:56,543
♪ Will it heal my wounded heart? ♪
1564
01:35:58,795 --> 01:36:05,010
♪ Will it heal me before I fall apart? ♪
1565
01:36:06,428 --> 01:36:10,932
♪ At the break of the morning ♪
1566
01:36:11,016 --> 01:36:15,312
♪ When the trumpets come calling out ♪
1567
01:36:15,395 --> 01:36:19,232
♪ Will you be sorry ♪
1568
01:36:19,316 --> 01:36:23,612
♪ Or will you marry yourself
to your crime? ♪
1569
01:36:23,695 --> 01:36:27,616
♪ At the edge of the story ♪
1570
01:36:27,699 --> 01:36:31,536
♪ At the edge of my racing mind ♪
1571
01:36:31,620 --> 01:36:35,916
♪ Will I embrace glory ♪
1572
01:36:35,999 --> 01:36:42,297
♪ Or will I carry my head
near the ground? ♪
1573
01:36:42,380 --> 01:36:48,803
♪ Will it heal my wounded heart? ♪
1574
01:36:50,805 --> 01:36:57,395
♪ Will it heal me before I fall apart? ♪
1575
01:36:59,481 --> 01:37:04,611
{\an8}♪ Will it heal my wounded heart? ♪
1576
01:37:04,694 --> 01:37:06,780
{\an8}♪ Mm-hmm ♪
1577
01:37:07,906 --> 01:37:13,703
{\an8}♪ Will it heal me before I fall apart? ♪
1578
01:37:16,206 --> 01:37:18,208
♪ ♪
1579
01:37:23,755 --> 01:37:26,091
(vocalizing)
1580
01:37:49,531 --> 01:37:53,618
♪ Will it heal my wounded heart? ♪
1581
01:37:53,702 --> 01:37:55,829
♪ Mm... ♪
1582
01:37:57,581 --> 01:38:02,919
♪ Will it heal me before I fall apart? ♪
1583
01:38:03,003 --> 01:38:05,839
♪ Mm... ♪
1584
01:38:05,922 --> 01:38:09,843
♪ Will it heal my wounded heart? ♪
1585
01:38:09,926 --> 01:38:14,055
♪ Mm... ♪
1586
01:38:14,139 --> 01:38:19,060
♪ Will it heal me before I fall apart? ♪
1587
01:38:19,144 --> 01:38:22,105
♪ Fall apart ♪
1588
01:38:22,188 --> 01:38:27,402
♪ Will it heal me before I fall apart? ♪
1589
01:38:27,485 --> 01:38:30,780
- ♪ Fall apart. ♪
- (song ends)
1590
01:38:30,864 --> 01:38:32,866
♪ ♪
1591
01:39:02,896 --> 01:39:04,898
♪ ♪
1592
01:39:34,928 --> 01:39:36,930
♪ ♪
1593
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:08,962
♪ ♪
1594
01:40:35,864 --> 01:40:37,866
(music ends)