1 00:00:01,586 --> 00:00:05,275 [Shaun] Previously on 90 Day: The Last Resort The Couples Tell All... 2 00:00:08,620 --> 00:00:09,793 [all exclaiming and laughing] 3 00:00:14,172 --> 00:00:16,103 [both screaming] 4 00:00:16,275 --> 00:00:17,689 [all laughing] 5 00:00:17,896 --> 00:00:22,724 Stacey and Florian, how do you think your relationship is today? 6 00:00:25,172 --> 00:00:27,758 We've been arguing, like, every day. 7 00:00:30,206 --> 00:00:32,896 Florian, you're a liability when you act like that, 8 00:00:33,034 --> 00:00:35,793 because what if he does something stupid one day? 9 00:00:35,965 --> 00:00:37,586 I'm responsible for him. 10 00:00:37,758 --> 00:00:39,689 Like, he's gonna [bleep] up our life. 11 00:00:39,862 --> 00:00:42,172 [dramatic instrumental music] 12 00:00:42,379 --> 00:00:46,275 Natalie's, you know, sent me messages that say, "[bleep] me." 13 00:00:46,448 --> 00:00:47,896 -So, like, you know? -[Florian] Whoa, whoa, whoa. 14 00:00:49,482 --> 00:00:52,586 For me, it was surprise that Josh broke up with me, 15 00:00:52,758 --> 00:00:54,000 so I couldn't really move on. 16 00:00:54,137 --> 00:00:55,517 [Shaun] Josh. 17 00:00:55,517 --> 00:00:59,586 -[Josh] Yeah. -Did you ever consider Natalie your girlfriend? 18 00:00:59,793 --> 00:01:02,689 I don't think that I would have considered her my girlfriend, no. 19 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:07,379 Wow. 20 00:01:07,551 --> 00:01:09,000 [sighs] 21 00:01:09,137 --> 00:01:11,172 Ten days after couples therapy, 22 00:01:11,379 --> 00:01:14,275 Jasmine spent the night away from home. 23 00:01:14,482 --> 00:01:16,172 And I kept asking her, "I know you're with Matt." 24 00:01:16,379 --> 00:01:19,586 And she never responded back, "No, I'm not with him." 25 00:01:19,758 --> 00:01:21,103 [Jasmine] It's nonsense. 26 00:01:21,275 --> 00:01:23,482 He says his own lies so many times. 27 00:01:25,896 --> 00:01:30,103 Well, I think we'd all like to get to know Matt... 28 00:01:32,586 --> 00:01:33,896 Please welcome Matt, everybody. 29 00:01:34,586 --> 00:01:35,413 Hello. How are you? 30 00:01:35,586 --> 00:01:38,000 [dramatic instrumental music] 31 00:01:43,172 --> 00:01:44,724 [tense instrumental music] 32 00:01:48,413 --> 00:01:49,931 Hi there, Matt. How are you? 33 00:01:50,896 --> 00:01:52,724 Hello. How are you? 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,586 Hi. [giggles] 35 00:02:00,275 --> 00:02:04,620 Matt, congratulations on your future baby. 36 00:02:04,793 --> 00:02:08,310 How did you feel when Jasmine told you she was pregnant? 37 00:02:09,827 --> 00:02:10,896 [Matt] Umm... 38 00:02:49,103 --> 00:02:52,206 You were afraid to have kids, but you weren't afraid to have a kid with a married woman? 39 00:02:53,620 --> 00:02:57,620 I mean, things kind of just happen sometimes in life. 40 00:02:57,793 --> 00:02:58,413 [scoffs] 41 00:03:11,172 --> 00:03:14,310 I know Gino is trying to make you think that I'm some horrible, 42 00:03:14,482 --> 00:03:17,000 you know, like, marriage-breaker, 43 00:03:17,172 --> 00:03:21,206 -and I'm not. I'm not that type of person. -[groans] 44 00:03:21,379 --> 00:03:26,413 Um, Jasmine, you always talked about how Gino, um, was physically your type, 45 00:03:26,586 --> 00:03:30,206 but Matt looks very different from Gino. 46 00:03:30,379 --> 00:03:31,793 Explain that to me. 47 00:03:33,103 --> 00:03:34,172 [Julia speaking] 48 00:03:34,379 --> 00:03:35,896 -[laughing] -Do you think he... 49 00:03:36,034 --> 00:03:38,000 -Julia, you said you think he looks like-- -[Julia] Like Brandon. 50 00:03:38,172 --> 00:03:39,655 [laughing] 51 00:03:39,655 --> 00:03:41,275 -[Shaun] Like Brandon? -[Stacey] I thought he looked like Florian. 52 00:03:41,448 --> 00:03:42,689 -Anybody else seeing that? -[all laughing] 53 00:03:42,862 --> 00:03:45,620 [Jasmine] It's if Florian and Brandon had a child. 54 00:03:45,793 --> 00:03:47,275 [all laughing] 55 00:03:47,448 --> 00:03:50,000 Uh, well, I... 56 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,827 I don't know how to explain that. 57 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,896 I mean, he's a very attractive man, I won't deny that, 58 00:03:58,034 --> 00:04:01,172 who, even if he wasn't my type, like, I think he's very attractive. 59 00:04:01,344 --> 00:04:04,793 But I always found my husband attractive. 60 00:04:04,793 --> 00:04:08,310 I have always said it, and people don't believe me, but it is what it is. 61 00:04:11,172 --> 00:04:13,413 [Shaun] Umm, Matt, 62 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:16,413 what would you like to say to Gino? 63 00:04:17,931 --> 00:04:19,379 [Matt] I'm not the type of person that's gonna sit here 64 00:04:19,586 --> 00:04:23,172 and argue with Gino about what happened there, what happened here. 65 00:04:23,344 --> 00:04:25,000 Umm... 66 00:04:25,172 --> 00:04:28,724 They asked me to come into some open relationship. I agreed. 67 00:04:28,896 --> 00:04:30,793 Umm, I don't know. 68 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,586 If you treat her like you just treat 69 00:04:39,758 --> 00:04:41,724 anybody you wanna be a dickhead to, right, 70 00:04:41,896 --> 00:04:44,896 you're gonna have problems with her, 'cause you're gonna hurt her feelings, 71 00:04:45,034 --> 00:04:47,379 she's gonna get upset, she's gonna cry. 72 00:04:47,551 --> 00:04:49,379 You're not gonna get anywhere with her, you know? 73 00:04:49,551 --> 00:04:53,620 You're just gonna end up bumping heads and arguing all the time. 74 00:04:53,793 --> 00:04:55,413 So, if... 75 00:04:55,586 --> 00:04:57,068 if you don't treat her... 76 00:04:58,689 --> 00:05:00,620 If you don't talk to her like somebody that you care for-- 77 00:05:00,793 --> 00:05:03,068 Shut up! You don't know anything! 78 00:05:03,241 --> 00:05:04,793 You don't know anything! 79 00:05:04,965 --> 00:05:06,793 I'm sure he tried his best to treat her nicely. 80 00:05:06,965 --> 00:05:09,000 I treated her nice. 81 00:05:09,137 --> 00:05:12,793 Gino, you said, when you guys were being intimate, that she still disrespected you. 82 00:05:12,965 --> 00:05:15,482 -Things were still not good, right? -Correct. 83 00:05:15,655 --> 00:05:16,896 So, why'd you agree to this? 84 00:05:18,724 --> 00:05:20,310 I don't understand why we agreed to this whole thing. 85 00:05:20,482 --> 00:05:24,724 I think he just loved her so damn much, he tried. He was trying. 86 00:05:24,896 --> 00:05:29,482 Overall, after all of this was done, I regret agreeing to open marriage. 87 00:05:29,655 --> 00:05:33,689 But I felt like I was trapped in a corner, like I had to make a decision, 88 00:05:33,862 --> 00:05:36,620 take action, because nothing was working for us. 89 00:05:36,793 --> 00:05:41,310 But it did seem like an odd contract in the very beginning, 90 00:05:41,482 --> 00:05:45,482 because your relationship was broken. 91 00:05:45,655 --> 00:05:47,379 -It wasn't as though you had a healthy relationship... -True. 92 00:05:47,551 --> 00:05:50,896 ...and said, "Let's bring somebody else in to spice things up." 93 00:05:51,034 --> 00:05:52,724 It was like your relationship was broken. 94 00:05:52,896 --> 00:05:56,689 So, I never really understood how having an open marriage 95 00:05:56,862 --> 00:06:00,172 -would help you become a stronger couple. -[Gino] Well. Okay. 96 00:06:00,379 --> 00:06:04,103 Okay, I was thinking if I agreed to this open marriage or whatnot... 97 00:06:05,172 --> 00:06:07,275 that would make Jasmine happy. 98 00:06:07,448 --> 00:06:09,000 And if Jasmine's happy, 99 00:06:09,172 --> 00:06:10,793 I'm gonna be happy, because she's not gonna be attacking me anymore. 100 00:06:12,689 --> 00:06:14,413 Please, can I... Please don't interrupt me. 101 00:06:14,586 --> 00:06:15,931 [Shaun] Go ahead, Gino. 102 00:06:16,068 --> 00:06:18,000 Finally, we are both happy, right? 103 00:06:18,137 --> 00:06:20,413 We could get back together at some point, 104 00:06:20,586 --> 00:06:22,379 -maybe start being intimate again... -[sighs] 105 00:06:22,551 --> 00:06:26,000 ...and then, get rid of the third person. 106 00:06:26,172 --> 00:06:32,103 But how did you think her having sex repeatedly with someone else 107 00:06:32,275 --> 00:06:34,000 would make you two closer, 108 00:06:34,137 --> 00:06:37,000 and not her closer to the person she's having sex with? 109 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,896 Umm, because it's an open marriage. 110 00:06:41,034 --> 00:06:44,793 And, for instance, Reba, one of the therapists, successfully executes it. 111 00:06:46,172 --> 00:06:47,793 Does anybody here think 112 00:06:47,965 --> 00:06:50,793 there was any way this contract was going to work? 113 00:06:52,896 --> 00:06:54,068 No. 114 00:06:54,896 --> 00:06:56,275 It was doomed from the start. 115 00:06:57,620 --> 00:06:59,586 [Julia speaking] 116 00:07:05,896 --> 00:07:06,896 [Jasmine] That's true. 117 00:07:17,517 --> 00:07:21,413 So, Matt, you heard us earlier talking about this contract 118 00:07:21,586 --> 00:07:25,000 between Jasmine and Gino when it came to you. 119 00:07:25,172 --> 00:07:30,586 What did you understand were the rules of this open marriage contract? 120 00:07:30,758 --> 00:07:34,000 That she's allowed to, like, hang out with me or sleep with me, 121 00:07:34,172 --> 00:07:36,482 like, twice a week or something like that. 122 00:07:37,206 --> 00:07:40,517 So, Jasmine, what, if anything, 123 00:07:40,689 --> 00:07:44,103 was Gino supposed to be getting out of this situation between you and Matt? 124 00:07:46,275 --> 00:07:47,310 Cheeseburgers. 125 00:07:50,586 --> 00:07:52,275 Yeah, a cheeseburger, right? 126 00:07:52,448 --> 00:07:54,103 What? 127 00:07:56,586 --> 00:07:57,310 [Gino] What are you talking... 128 00:08:09,310 --> 00:08:10,965 He was happy. 129 00:08:11,103 --> 00:08:15,310 And he will always tell me, like, "Oh, tell Matt to buy me, like, a burger." 130 00:08:15,482 --> 00:08:17,896 And I will come back home with a burger 131 00:08:18,034 --> 00:08:19,827 -that Matt will buy to him. -All right, this is a... 132 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,379 This is 100% a lie. 133 00:08:23,793 --> 00:08:25,482 -[all chuckling] -100% lie, and on top-- 134 00:08:25,655 --> 00:08:26,896 [bleep] sounds ridiculous. 135 00:08:26,896 --> 00:08:29,068 [Gino] Jasmine never told me when she was going to Matt 136 00:08:29,241 --> 00:08:30,689 since she got back from couples therapy. 137 00:08:30,862 --> 00:08:32,931 Not once did she give me her location when I've asked for it. 138 00:08:33,068 --> 00:08:34,793 It's nonsense. 139 00:08:34,793 --> 00:08:37,896 Well, I think it's ridiculous. I think he's a terrible piece of [bleep] as well, 140 00:08:38,034 --> 00:08:40,000 because he's sleeping with another man's wife. 141 00:08:43,689 --> 00:08:45,793 [bleep] that guy. I don't need to know him. 142 00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:49,103 He got my friend's wife pregnant! 143 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,482 Hey, dickhead, shut your mouth! 144 00:08:55,655 --> 00:08:57,793 Shut your mouth, senior citizen! 145 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,793 Um, we had a conversation at the gym before, but it was, like... 146 00:09:15,965 --> 00:09:19,482 Eventually, the part came out where they haven't been together, 147 00:09:19,655 --> 00:09:22,000 and I don't know what to say. 148 00:09:22,137 --> 00:09:24,275 This is a grown man. What do you want me to say to that? 149 00:09:31,931 --> 00:09:35,103 You know, I would care, but the thing is, 150 00:09:35,275 --> 00:09:39,758 -is he treated her bad-- -You don't know [bleep], man. You're [bleep] in the head. 151 00:09:42,172 --> 00:09:44,689 Yeah, we did! In the beginning, we did, idiot! 152 00:09:44,862 --> 00:09:46,379 [Matt speaking] 153 00:09:46,551 --> 00:09:47,586 What are you talking about? 154 00:09:49,310 --> 00:09:51,896 Such the ladies' man, aren't you, my man? 155 00:09:52,034 --> 00:09:55,275 Mother [bleep]! Yeah, [bleep] yourself, asshole. 156 00:09:55,482 --> 00:09:57,482 -You're a [bleep] ugly mother [bleep]! -[Shaun] Gino. 157 00:09:57,655 --> 00:09:58,793 Just shut your mouth, all right? 158 00:09:58,965 --> 00:10:01,000 [Shaun] I wanna get back on track. 159 00:10:02,482 --> 00:10:04,068 So, Jasmine, here's what I wanna know, 160 00:10:04,241 --> 00:10:09,000 you know, one of the rules of the contract was not to develop any 161 00:10:09,172 --> 00:10:12,724 -emotional connection. -Connection, yes. 162 00:10:15,172 --> 00:10:16,000 [Shaun] Yes. 163 00:10:36,724 --> 00:10:38,896 So... so, in your mind, 164 00:10:39,034 --> 00:10:42,793 what was the line that you were not supposed to cross 165 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,793 when it came to an emotional connection with Matt? 166 00:10:57,103 --> 00:11:00,896 I wanna know if Matt loves Jasmine. That's my question. 167 00:11:01,034 --> 00:11:02,931 I think that's a good question. 168 00:11:04,379 --> 00:11:07,724 Matt, do you love Jasmine? 169 00:11:13,379 --> 00:11:16,068 I do. She's carrying my child, so I do. 170 00:11:20,896 --> 00:11:22,931 Jasmine, do you love Matt? 171 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,896 It's like... 172 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,517 [suspenseful instrumental music] 173 00:11:31,379 --> 00:11:33,896 [dramatic instrumental music] 174 00:11:39,068 --> 00:11:40,310 [Shaun] Coming up... 175 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:44,896 Please welcome your therapists, James, Heidi, and Reba. 176 00:11:45,034 --> 00:11:46,586 [Gino] I don't remember anyone saying to me, 177 00:11:46,586 --> 00:11:49,689 "Gino, this is not a good idea. You shouldn't do this open marriage." 178 00:11:49,862 --> 00:11:52,482 It's not my job to tell you what you should and shouldn't do. 179 00:11:55,896 --> 00:11:57,689 I think it's really easy to point fingers. 180 00:11:57,862 --> 00:11:58,689 [Florian] No. 181 00:12:04,103 --> 00:12:05,482 [tense instrumental music] 182 00:12:08,793 --> 00:12:10,275 Okay, let me ask one more time, 183 00:12:10,448 --> 00:12:12,379 do you love Matt? 184 00:12:18,689 --> 00:12:21,275 I don't know if I'm having, um... 185 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,862 emotional attachment to him. 186 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,275 I don't know if that is love. 187 00:12:26,448 --> 00:12:28,000 I don't even know what love is anymore. 188 00:12:28,172 --> 00:12:31,379 I don't even know what it is for me to be in love. 189 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,896 I... I don't have an answer for that. 190 00:12:36,034 --> 00:12:37,862 I do care about him. 191 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,275 I feel safe with him. I feel protected. 192 00:12:41,448 --> 00:12:43,620 I feel well taken care. And I like that feeling. 193 00:12:45,586 --> 00:12:46,206 But... 194 00:12:49,482 --> 00:12:50,931 I don't know if I love him. 195 00:12:54,689 --> 00:12:59,172 Let me ask you, do you still love Gino? 196 00:13:00,172 --> 00:13:01,758 Like... [sighs] 197 00:13:07,689 --> 00:13:10,000 I'll be super honest to you, Shaun... 198 00:13:25,103 --> 00:13:25,793 I... 199 00:13:55,275 --> 00:13:58,586 Look, if you truly loved me, you wouldn't have-- 200 00:13:58,758 --> 00:14:02,000 You wouldn't have pursued Matt at the gym five months after marriage. 201 00:14:03,379 --> 00:14:06,586 You... Just hold on a second. 202 00:14:06,793 --> 00:14:10,103 You would not have pursued a man at the gym five months after marriage 203 00:14:10,275 --> 00:14:13,103 -if you truly loved me. That's not love. Sorry. -Like... 204 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,379 -God. Victim, victim, victim. Shut up. -No, no, I'm not your victim. 205 00:14:21,551 --> 00:14:22,620 Guys. 206 00:14:24,931 --> 00:14:28,896 Matt, do you have any final words for Jasmine? 207 00:14:30,758 --> 00:14:32,586 I love her and I care for her. 208 00:14:32,758 --> 00:14:35,103 Whether we're together or not, I still care for her. 209 00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:38,413 So, I'll always be there to support her, you know? 210 00:14:38,586 --> 00:14:41,758 I'm happy, and I think it's going in the right direction. 211 00:14:44,206 --> 00:14:46,620 Matt, we're very glad we had a chance to get to know you 212 00:14:46,793 --> 00:14:49,793 a little bit better today. Thank you very much for joining us. 213 00:14:49,965 --> 00:14:52,000 I know this was not very easy. 214 00:14:52,137 --> 00:14:55,172 We wish you the very best on becoming a new father. 215 00:14:55,344 --> 00:14:56,862 Thank you. I appreciate you. 216 00:15:01,068 --> 00:15:05,379 Gino, we haven't talked about your side of the open marriage... 217 00:15:05,551 --> 00:15:08,896 -Okay. -...and whether you have been intimate with anyone. 218 00:15:09,034 --> 00:15:10,310 Have you? 219 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,103 I have not been intimate with anyone since... 220 00:15:18,275 --> 00:15:22,758 well, in the open marriage or even since we got back from couples therapy. 221 00:15:22,931 --> 00:15:29,000 Jasmine, do you regret committing to this idea of having an open marriage? 222 00:15:30,206 --> 00:15:31,620 [Jasmine sobbing] 223 00:15:33,793 --> 00:15:35,103 I regret everything. 224 00:15:56,862 --> 00:15:59,000 I just wish I could take time back, 225 00:15:59,172 --> 00:16:04,586 and when I was not happy in my marriage, not being treated right, 226 00:16:04,758 --> 00:16:07,689 not receiving affection, sex, whatever. 227 00:16:07,862 --> 00:16:09,172 You weren't treating me right, 228 00:16:09,172 --> 00:16:10,206 -that's why I wasn't affectionate. -[Jasmine] Whatever. 229 00:16:10,206 --> 00:16:12,206 -Or I wasn't being enough. -Stop this [bleep]. 230 00:16:12,379 --> 00:16:14,862 I wasn't being good enough for you, Gino. 231 00:16:15,896 --> 00:16:17,103 I should have just, like... 232 00:16:17,275 --> 00:16:19,310 And instead of perpetuating this, 233 00:16:19,482 --> 00:16:22,931 you know, prolonging this nightmare and this torture, 234 00:16:23,068 --> 00:16:24,586 I should have just left. 235 00:16:28,379 --> 00:16:32,206 Therapy cannot fix everything, and that my marriage was done. 236 00:16:35,482 --> 00:16:37,275 [Shaun] Well, Gino and Jasmine, 237 00:16:37,448 --> 00:16:39,482 thank you so much for opening up tonight. 238 00:16:39,689 --> 00:16:43,172 I know this is a very difficult situation to navigate. 239 00:16:43,344 --> 00:16:46,758 We wish you the best as you both move on. 240 00:16:46,931 --> 00:16:49,689 -Thanks. -Thank you, Shaun. I appreciate it. 241 00:16:49,862 --> 00:16:51,620 So, before we conclude, 242 00:16:51,793 --> 00:16:55,000 we've got one more very important group of people to talk with. 243 00:16:55,172 --> 00:16:58,931 Your therapists provided wonderful insights throughout the season. 244 00:16:59,103 --> 00:17:01,758 They've been watching backstage this whole time, 245 00:17:01,931 --> 00:17:04,000 and I wanna bring them out to get their thoughts. 246 00:17:05,689 --> 00:17:08,793 Please welcome James, Heidi, and Reba. 247 00:17:08,965 --> 00:17:10,275 -[all cheering] -Hi, there! 248 00:17:11,482 --> 00:17:13,482 -Hi, guys. -Hello! 249 00:17:13,689 --> 00:17:16,172 -Hey! Thank you. -[Shaun] Standing ovation. 250 00:17:16,344 --> 00:17:18,482 -[James] Thank you. -Welcome. 251 00:17:18,655 --> 00:17:21,275 Okay. Hi, there. Nice to meet you. 252 00:17:21,448 --> 00:17:22,620 -Hi. -How are you? 253 00:17:22,620 --> 00:17:25,413 Well, you have been listening to the conversation. 254 00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:27,068 -Have we ever? -Absolutely. 255 00:17:27,241 --> 00:17:29,379 -[laughing] -[Shaun] Have you ever? 256 00:17:29,551 --> 00:17:33,482 Do you look at these couples as being successful in finding out 257 00:17:33,655 --> 00:17:36,068 what they actually wanted in a relationship? 258 00:17:36,068 --> 00:17:39,758 Oh, Reba, you kind of, like, turned your head, like, "Ooh, I don't know." 259 00:17:39,931 --> 00:17:44,000 I think so. I think that there was a lot of 260 00:17:44,172 --> 00:17:47,310 wanting to do what they felt was right, 261 00:17:47,482 --> 00:17:50,586 -but not really listening to their internal compass. -[Shaun] Yeah. 262 00:17:50,758 --> 00:17:53,586 And I think it's really easy to point fingers, 263 00:17:53,758 --> 00:17:56,482 and I think we saw that and we have seen that today. 264 00:17:56,655 --> 00:17:58,379 But I still think that, at the end of the day, 265 00:17:58,551 --> 00:18:00,793 they saw that the problems were still there, 266 00:18:00,965 --> 00:18:03,172 and that's where this has led them today, 267 00:18:03,344 --> 00:18:05,206 that it's important that they move forward 268 00:18:05,379 --> 00:18:07,103 and find their own personal journeys, 269 00:18:07,275 --> 00:18:09,275 whether they wanted to stay in their marriage, 270 00:18:09,448 --> 00:18:12,689 whether they wanted something else, or that they wanted to be single. 271 00:18:12,862 --> 00:18:17,275 And I think that, in itself, is growth, and if you can walk away with growth, 272 00:18:17,448 --> 00:18:20,689 you've succeeded already in the first step. 273 00:18:20,862 --> 00:18:24,586 Okay, well... well, some of our couples have decided to separate. 274 00:18:24,793 --> 00:18:27,689 There are a few I'd still like to ask you three about. 275 00:18:27,862 --> 00:18:32,793 How surprised are you at where Gino and Jasmine are today? 276 00:18:32,965 --> 00:18:34,413 [Heidi] We were very surprised. 277 00:18:34,586 --> 00:18:38,793 Obviously, we were surprised at Jasmine's newest revelation, right? 278 00:18:38,965 --> 00:18:42,586 But I don't think any of us were surprised about how 279 00:18:42,758 --> 00:18:47,000 the end result of their... of pursuing an open marriage came out. 280 00:18:47,206 --> 00:18:50,275 I think, against my professional and personal advice, 281 00:18:50,448 --> 00:18:56,068 they rushed into a situation neither of them was really comfortable with. 282 00:18:56,241 --> 00:18:58,586 And we see what happens when we rush into things 283 00:18:58,758 --> 00:19:02,172 that are really complicated and really difficult. 284 00:19:02,344 --> 00:19:06,931 So, Reba, if a couple decides to go into an open marriage, 285 00:19:07,068 --> 00:19:11,758 it should not be if your marriage already is broken? 286 00:19:11,931 --> 00:19:13,793 [Reba] 100%. 287 00:19:13,793 --> 00:19:17,103 And I think that's what I was trying to convey to Jasmine when we had this conversation. 288 00:19:17,275 --> 00:19:21,620 As a polyamorous person, I want people to know, like, this is serious. 289 00:19:21,793 --> 00:19:26,310 Like, this is not, "Oh, let's, you know, slap a Band-Aid on our broken marriage," 290 00:19:26,482 --> 00:19:30,482 because now you're bringing other people into this broken situation. 291 00:19:30,689 --> 00:19:34,000 -Was that explained to them before they started? -Yeah. 292 00:19:34,137 --> 00:19:35,896 I was just gonna ask, no one really told me... 293 00:19:36,034 --> 00:19:36,896 How do you know? 294 00:19:40,758 --> 00:19:42,310 I don't remember anyone saying to me, 295 00:19:42,482 --> 00:19:45,689 "Gino, this is not a good idea. You shouldn't do this open marriage." 296 00:19:45,862 --> 00:19:48,103 I don't recall anyone telling me that, Reba. 297 00:19:48,275 --> 00:19:51,586 Yeah, so it's not my job to tell you what you should and shouldn't do. 298 00:19:52,862 --> 00:19:55,689 [dramatic instrumental music] 299 00:19:58,103 --> 00:20:00,379 -I think it's really easy to point fingers. -[Florian] No. 300 00:20:02,862 --> 00:20:04,620 [Shaun] Coming up... 301 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:07,482 You need to totally stop with this, like, disrespectful attitude towards everybody. 302 00:20:07,655 --> 00:20:10,275 They're trained therapists. They're trying to help us. 303 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:14,310 I was there, I saw everything, and I-- 304 00:20:14,482 --> 00:20:16,517 You need to stop. Monster! 305 00:20:20,275 --> 00:20:22,000 [tense instrumental music] 306 00:20:27,103 --> 00:20:29,586 -I think it's really easy to point fingers. -[sighs] 307 00:20:29,758 --> 00:20:32,344 I talked to you guys about what's required. 308 00:20:32,517 --> 00:20:36,000 I talked to you about the conversations that need to be had, 309 00:20:36,137 --> 00:20:37,896 the agreements that need to be made, 310 00:20:38,034 --> 00:20:39,793 and the trust that needs to be there 311 00:20:39,965 --> 00:20:42,000 for you guys to walk down this path. 312 00:20:43,379 --> 00:20:46,103 Jasmine, you're not in your head, do you agree? 313 00:21:18,275 --> 00:21:19,275 Wow. 314 00:21:20,448 --> 00:21:22,379 I think that's true, yeah. 315 00:21:23,758 --> 00:21:25,655 All right, let's move on. 316 00:21:25,827 --> 00:21:28,000 What do you think about Natalie and Josh? 317 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,482 I think, as we're moving forward, 318 00:21:30,655 --> 00:21:32,482 we need to have clear boundaries for ourselves. 319 00:21:39,655 --> 00:21:42,275 I can see with Natalie, that she's made some strides, 320 00:21:42,448 --> 00:21:44,275 and I hear the work that she's trying to do. 321 00:21:44,448 --> 00:21:47,896 That said, I would love to see her continue to gain 322 00:21:48,034 --> 00:21:52,586 tools to help her ground herself, to help her be able to cope 323 00:21:52,758 --> 00:21:55,482 when she's in these intense situations, 324 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:57,000 or even just everyday situations 325 00:21:57,172 --> 00:22:00,068 where we need to emotionally regulate. 326 00:22:00,241 --> 00:22:02,965 Oftentimes, our brain wants to release these chemicals. 327 00:22:03,103 --> 00:22:05,137 The cortisol gets built up and we want to scream, shout. 328 00:22:05,310 --> 00:22:07,379 We may wanna punch something, hit a couch, 329 00:22:07,551 --> 00:22:10,448 -whatever, throw a shoe, whatever it may be. -That was me. 330 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:14,241 And so, the idea is, if in that moment I can catch myself, 331 00:22:14,448 --> 00:22:17,275 to get myself centered and grounded so I can speak to you 332 00:22:17,448 --> 00:22:20,000 in a calm, collected way to get my point across. 333 00:22:39,586 --> 00:22:42,793 Well, I think that's where you came to the place where you are now, right? 334 00:22:42,965 --> 00:22:45,275 As much as you may be attracted to certain qualities, 335 00:22:45,448 --> 00:22:47,689 clearly these... these other components 336 00:22:47,862 --> 00:22:50,034 of the relationship became unhealthy for the two of you. 337 00:22:50,862 --> 00:22:51,689 Absolutely, yeah. 338 00:22:53,275 --> 00:22:55,034 We do need to just cut it off. 339 00:22:56,689 --> 00:22:59,241 Okay, let's talk about Stacey and Florian. 340 00:22:59,413 --> 00:23:03,793 Obviously, um, still a lot of issues to navigate. 341 00:23:03,965 --> 00:23:05,655 Trust is one of them. 342 00:23:05,655 --> 00:23:09,689 What advice would you have for them as they move forward in their relationship? 343 00:23:09,862 --> 00:23:11,793 Well, I think, before we get to the advice, 344 00:23:11,793 --> 00:23:17,758 I think one thing I wanna note is that Stacey came into this wanting help for her marriage. 345 00:23:17,931 --> 00:23:21,344 And I know Florian was clear with that he didn't believe in therapy. 346 00:23:21,517 --> 00:23:24,344 So, right from the start, he was shutting this process down. 347 00:23:24,517 --> 00:23:30,103 I think that they fall into a parent-child role a lot, and... 348 00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:35,000 -and we definitely thought that he... One second, please. -Shh. Quiet. 349 00:23:35,172 --> 00:23:37,448 -Quiet, please. -We definitely see that this... 350 00:23:37,620 --> 00:23:39,689 that it's not an equal balance there. 351 00:23:39,862 --> 00:23:43,379 Florian needs to step up, and he hasn't at this point, 352 00:23:43,551 --> 00:23:46,758 and Stacey has to allow him to step up. 353 00:23:49,137 --> 00:23:52,586 Umm, not your mom. She's acting in the role as such. 354 00:23:54,655 --> 00:23:55,379 A mom. 355 00:23:56,034 --> 00:23:56,896 A mom. 356 00:23:58,862 --> 00:24:00,241 Okay, however you wanna see it. 357 00:24:07,344 --> 00:24:08,482 -No, here, let me-- -[Florian] No, no, no! 358 00:24:09,896 --> 00:24:10,896 Florian, please. 359 00:24:12,275 --> 00:24:13,275 No, no. Enough, Stacey. 360 00:24:13,448 --> 00:24:14,896 Have some respect for them. 361 00:24:20,172 --> 00:24:21,758 Can someone stop him, please? 362 00:24:23,448 --> 00:24:26,448 They're trying to explain it, so let them explain, so you understand? 363 00:24:32,172 --> 00:24:33,689 [James] Can I give a description? 364 00:24:34,586 --> 00:24:36,275 Is that okay with you? 365 00:24:36,448 --> 00:24:41,379 Florian, it's used to describe kind of just a general dynamic that happens. 366 00:24:41,551 --> 00:24:44,586 Let's say you guys may flip-flop roles. How about that? 367 00:24:44,758 --> 00:24:47,275 Oftentimes, one may be a parent, one may be a child. 368 00:24:47,448 --> 00:24:49,068 But what we're trying to say is, 369 00:24:49,241 --> 00:24:50,275 when you're in this dynamic, 370 00:24:50,448 --> 00:24:52,586 it kind of takes out the romantic piece. 371 00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:54,241 Right? Because you have to-- 372 00:24:55,482 --> 00:24:56,724 [James] Okay. 373 00:24:58,275 --> 00:25:00,103 -[James] I think she does an amazing job. -Oh, my God. 374 00:25:02,586 --> 00:25:03,655 [Stacey] Florian, show respect, please. 375 00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:05,793 Enough. Enough. 376 00:25:07,379 --> 00:25:10,172 -[dramatic instrumental music] -Oh, Stace. 377 00:25:10,344 --> 00:25:12,896 -[Stacey] He doesn't get it. -[Jasmine] This is impossible. 378 00:25:14,379 --> 00:25:15,586 Wow. 379 00:25:15,758 --> 00:25:16,965 [Stacey] How embarrassing. 380 00:25:17,655 --> 00:25:18,965 Total disrespect. 381 00:25:19,103 --> 00:25:21,275 Can't deal with this anymore. 382 00:25:26,758 --> 00:25:29,000 [tense instrumental music] 383 00:25:30,034 --> 00:25:31,758 [Stacey] I can't deal with this anymore. 384 00:25:32,896 --> 00:25:34,172 [Jasmine speaking] 385 00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:38,448 [Stacey] He's so thickheaded. 386 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:41,103 It's just he's thickheaded, and the way he's talking to people, 387 00:25:41,275 --> 00:25:43,068 it's totally disrespectful. 388 00:25:43,241 --> 00:25:46,000 He talks about wanting respect. Well, he needs to give respect. 389 00:25:46,172 --> 00:25:49,379 He needs to sit there, he needs to listen, he needs to get educated, 390 00:25:49,551 --> 00:25:52,586 and he needs to just [bleep] shut the [bleep] up. 391 00:25:52,793 --> 00:25:54,551 The thing is, anger is a protective emotion, 392 00:25:54,724 --> 00:25:56,551 and we see a lot of anger. 393 00:26:00,689 --> 00:26:01,724 Right here. 394 00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:04,793 Just stop. Stop. I'm not gonna tolerate this. 395 00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:11,241 Let's put some energy into your marriage. 396 00:26:11,413 --> 00:26:12,275 Thank you. 397 00:26:13,344 --> 00:26:14,482 Care about your wife. 398 00:26:15,896 --> 00:26:18,586 -Disgusting. -Disrespectful and rude. 399 00:26:18,758 --> 00:26:20,241 Yeah. 400 00:26:20,241 --> 00:26:21,586 I mean, this is what happens when we see people getting triggered. 401 00:26:21,758 --> 00:26:23,172 -[Heidi] Yeah. -[Reba] Yeah. 402 00:26:23,344 --> 00:26:24,896 -[Sophie] So disrespectful. -[Reba] Yeah. 403 00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:27,275 [indistinct chatter] 404 00:26:27,448 --> 00:26:28,379 [Stacey] You need to stop. 405 00:26:28,551 --> 00:26:30,379 You need to totally stop with this, like, 406 00:26:30,586 --> 00:26:33,172 disrespectful attitude towards everybody. They're a trained therapists. 407 00:26:33,344 --> 00:26:36,448 They're educated. Like, they're trying to help us. 408 00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:39,448 But you're very aggressive and you're very scary, the way you talk. 409 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:40,896 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 410 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:43,068 Stop the [bleep] eyes and the [bleep]. 411 00:26:43,862 --> 00:26:44,862 Monster. 412 00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:51,172 I was there. I saw everything. 413 00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:54,655 And I don't need you to school me and... 414 00:26:55,068 --> 00:26:55,896 You need to stop. 415 00:26:56,655 --> 00:26:57,655 [tense instrumental music] 416 00:26:57,827 --> 00:27:01,103 Umm, are Stacey and Florian coming back in? 417 00:27:04,896 --> 00:27:06,448 Listen, moving forward, 418 00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:09,482 moving forward, you gotta stop with this [bleep] aggression. 419 00:27:09,655 --> 00:27:13,379 Okay, I don't really wanna, like, [bleep] go home with you like this. 420 00:27:15,034 --> 00:27:17,344 Yeah, go, go, go smoke your cigarette like you always do. 421 00:27:17,517 --> 00:27:18,689 You know, you said you were gonna quit. 422 00:27:18,862 --> 00:27:19,896 You're a liar. 423 00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:26,586 Never, never, never, never! 424 00:27:27,448 --> 00:27:28,965 [Stacey] Oh, my God. 425 00:27:37,586 --> 00:27:38,689 Welcome back, Stacey. 426 00:27:39,482 --> 00:27:40,724 [Stacey] So sorry. 427 00:27:40,724 --> 00:27:43,793 -I'm... I'm so sorry, you guys. -Don't apologize. 428 00:27:43,965 --> 00:27:45,448 -[Stacey] Thank you. -[Heidi] It's okay. 429 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:46,896 You did amazing. 430 00:27:47,034 --> 00:27:48,241 [Stacey] I had to walk away to just, like, 431 00:27:48,413 --> 00:27:49,965 -shift the energy. I just... -I get it. It's okay. 432 00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:51,793 -I'm sorry. You didn't deserve that. -[James] It's okay. 433 00:27:51,965 --> 00:27:53,896 Don't apologize. You don't need to apologize. 434 00:27:54,034 --> 00:27:56,758 -[Stacey] But that was, like, my last straw. -[Reba] Not on you, hon. 435 00:27:56,931 --> 00:27:58,275 -Don't worry about it. -[Stacey] Unbelievable. 436 00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:01,034 Sorry. 437 00:28:01,206 --> 00:28:02,758 [Shaun] You okay, Stacey? 438 00:28:04,068 --> 00:28:05,689 I'll be fine. I just... I'm really upset. 439 00:28:05,862 --> 00:28:09,000 The way he's reacting, it's uncalled for and unacceptable. 440 00:28:10,896 --> 00:28:12,655 Stacey, stop doing that if you can, 441 00:28:12,827 --> 00:28:15,241 -because it's not yours to clean up. -Okay. 442 00:28:15,413 --> 00:28:18,862 -[Heidi] Yeah. -Where do I go from here? I don't know what to do. 443 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,965 You should go to therapy. 444 00:28:21,103 --> 00:28:23,172 -Okay. I'm down. -[Heidi] Yes, you should. 445 00:28:23,344 --> 00:28:27,344 -Take care of your mental health. -Yes. Thank you. I will. 446 00:28:27,517 --> 00:28:31,275 [Shaun] Okay. Well, Reba, James and Heidi, thank you so much. 447 00:28:31,448 --> 00:28:33,068 I know this was a lot of work for you, 448 00:28:33,241 --> 00:28:37,551 and we appreciate all the effort that you put into helping 449 00:28:37,724 --> 00:28:41,172 our couples really understand what they need in a relationship. 450 00:28:41,344 --> 00:28:43,034 -So, thank you very much. -Thank you. 451 00:28:43,206 --> 00:28:45,172 -[all clapping] -[Natalie] We love you. 452 00:28:46,068 --> 00:28:48,379 -We love you. -[Heidi] Bye, guys. 453 00:28:48,586 --> 00:28:50,172 -Bye. -Bye. 454 00:28:50,344 --> 00:28:52,482 -Bye. -Bye. Bye-bye. 455 00:28:52,655 --> 00:28:55,000 -Thank you for everything. -Yes. 456 00:28:56,689 --> 00:28:59,586 Well, it seems like Florian is not coming back. 457 00:28:59,793 --> 00:29:02,172 But we do need to wrap things up. 458 00:29:02,344 --> 00:29:07,379 We have come to the end of 90 Day: The Last Resort The Couples Tell All. 459 00:29:07,551 --> 00:29:10,000 I want to thank all of the couples for participating tonight 460 00:29:10,172 --> 00:29:14,344 and for allowing us to join them on their Last Resortourneys. 461 00:29:14,517 --> 00:29:16,689 I hope to see you all again very soon. 462 00:29:16,862 --> 00:29:19,103 Until next time, I'm Shaun Robinson. 463 00:29:19,275 --> 00:29:20,000 Have a great evening. 464 00:29:20,172 --> 00:29:21,241 [Gino] Thank you. 465 00:29:22,172 --> 00:29:23,965 -Thanks, Shaun. -Thank you, Shaun. 466 00:29:24,103 --> 00:29:25,068 Thank you, Shaun. 467 00:29:25,758 --> 00:29:26,965 [Stacey] Bye, you. 468 00:29:34,241 --> 00:29:38,137 You know, I'm very disappointed about Florian lashing out. 469 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:41,655 I just feel like he needs to learn to tone it down 470 00:29:41,827 --> 00:29:45,172 and find a way to voice it in a professional manner. 471 00:29:45,344 --> 00:29:48,172 It's unacceptable and I'm not taking this anymore. 472 00:29:48,344 --> 00:29:50,000 [sighs] 473 00:29:52,896 --> 00:29:53,793 [knocks] 474 00:29:53,965 --> 00:29:57,275 -[Reba] Hello? Hey. -Hey! 475 00:29:57,448 --> 00:29:59,000 -[both exclaim] -[chuckling] 476 00:29:59,172 --> 00:30:00,965 Oh, so good to see you. 477 00:30:01,103 --> 00:30:02,689 -I changed a little. -A little? 478 00:30:02,862 --> 00:30:04,137 [laughing] 479 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:07,172 -Look at you! -I know! 480 00:30:07,344 --> 00:30:10,034 -[Reba] Oh, you're glowing. -[Jasmine] Thank you. 481 00:30:10,206 --> 00:30:13,965 Look, I... I just wanted to talk to you. I know that this has... 482 00:30:14,793 --> 00:30:16,689 [sighs] been a hard day. 483 00:30:16,862 --> 00:30:18,586 -Very tough. -Yeah. 484 00:30:18,758 --> 00:30:22,482 [Jasmine] I don't feel like I had an opportunity to say my part of the story. 485 00:30:22,655 --> 00:30:23,689 It was just, like... 486 00:30:28,448 --> 00:30:30,896 Let them think what they want. 487 00:30:31,034 --> 00:30:34,448 Let them have their opinions, okay? 488 00:30:35,275 --> 00:30:37,344 This is about your freedom. 489 00:30:49,965 --> 00:30:52,379 Yeah. Yeah. 490 00:30:56,689 --> 00:31:01,482 Jasmine, you know what I see? I see that you and Gino are both hurting right now. 491 00:31:13,551 --> 00:31:14,482 Yeah. 492 00:31:21,896 --> 00:31:22,896 Yeah. 493 00:31:25,241 --> 00:31:26,275 [Reba] Yeah. 494 00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:35,275 Yes. You know your truth, Jasmine. 495 00:31:35,448 --> 00:31:38,379 And what's needed right now, what you need 496 00:31:38,551 --> 00:31:40,103 is what this baby needs, 497 00:31:40,275 --> 00:31:42,275 and that's to protect your peace. 498 00:31:42,448 --> 00:31:47,000 Focus on you and your family and your baby, 499 00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:49,793 b1ecause that is who needs you to be strong right now, 500 00:31:49,965 --> 00:31:52,482 -[sobbing] -Okay? 501 00:31:52,655 --> 00:31:56,448 And you have to focus on what you need, okay? 502 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:58,275 -Now, come here. -[crying] 503 00:31:58,448 --> 00:32:00,379 [tense instrumental music] 504 00:32:05,482 --> 00:32:06,482 [Shaun] Coming up... 505 00:32:06,689 --> 00:32:08,793 You don't have to make jokes all the time. 506 00:32:08,965 --> 00:32:12,000 This is our life. This is my life, too. Like, it's not a joke. 507 00:32:12,172 --> 00:32:14,482 Like, does this ring mean anything to you? 508 00:32:14,655 --> 00:32:16,275 [Florian speaking] 509 00:32:16,448 --> 00:32:18,103 I ain't putting up with this [bleep]. 510 00:32:23,793 --> 00:32:25,482 [tense instrumental music] 511 00:32:29,034 --> 00:32:31,275 Just trying to process everything. 512 00:32:31,448 --> 00:32:33,482 I don't know where all this anger is coming from, though. 513 00:32:33,655 --> 00:32:39,103 Like, I don't know, it's some deep-rooted issue for him to just always... 514 00:32:39,275 --> 00:32:42,275 I get it. He wants to protect and defend. 515 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,172 Hey. 516 00:32:47,551 --> 00:32:48,586 Yeah. 517 00:33:02,793 --> 00:33:04,896 And go to church and talk to a priest. 518 00:33:12,482 --> 00:33:13,689 [both chuckling] 519 00:33:13,862 --> 00:33:16,137 You don't have to make jokes all the time. 520 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:19,103 I'm serious. This is... This is our life. This is my life, too. 521 00:33:19,275 --> 00:33:20,965 Like, it's not a joke. 522 00:33:20,965 --> 00:33:24,241 Like, your demeanor. It's just, I don't wanna live the rest of my... [scoffs] 523 00:33:24,413 --> 00:33:26,000 I don't even know. 524 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,275 We're just gonna keep going in circles and circles and circles. Just... 525 00:33:29,586 --> 00:33:30,689 calm down. 526 00:33:32,896 --> 00:33:35,068 Maybe you should go to Albania for a little bit. 527 00:33:37,551 --> 00:33:39,068 Maybe you go for a little bit, I don't know. 528 00:33:43,965 --> 00:33:46,000 Like, does this ring mean anything to you? 529 00:33:46,586 --> 00:33:48,275 [Florian speaking] 530 00:33:48,448 --> 00:33:49,862 [Stacey] It's not a freaking joke. 531 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,862 I ain't putting up with this [bleep]. 532 00:33:53,689 --> 00:33:55,413 [tense instrumental music] 533 00:33:57,896 --> 00:34:00,379 I mean, you never know. I might take a note out of Sophie's book 534 00:34:00,551 --> 00:34:03,379 and just do my own thing for a while. 535 00:34:03,551 --> 00:34:05,068 Is Florian gonna be okay with that? 536 00:34:07,172 --> 00:34:08,275 I don't know. 537 00:34:08,448 --> 00:34:11,206 But I have to do what's right for me. 538 00:34:13,689 --> 00:34:16,275 -[Rob] Hey, anybody got any bags? -[man] Yeah. 539 00:34:16,448 --> 00:34:18,965 Bags. Bags. Trash bags. 540 00:34:19,103 --> 00:34:22,965 I wanted really badly to be able to get through this Tell All 541 00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:25,000 without Sophie and I at each other's throats. 542 00:34:25,172 --> 00:34:30,034 But it's very evident that Sophie will never be a good partner for me 543 00:34:30,206 --> 00:34:33,793 because she cannot and will not forget any of the past, 544 00:34:33,965 --> 00:34:36,655 and she will always have whatever in her pocket 545 00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:38,448 to try to say that is just [bleep] wild 546 00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:41,482 to make me look like I'm invalid. 547 00:34:41,689 --> 00:34:44,379 Whenever I decide to speak up about some of the actual [bleep] 548 00:34:44,551 --> 00:34:47,000 that I went through while we were together, 549 00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:49,379 Sophie starts saying outlandish, wild [bleep]. 550 00:34:49,551 --> 00:34:50,965 It's like her go-to immediately. 551 00:34:51,103 --> 00:34:54,000 She knows how to make herself look good. 552 00:34:54,137 --> 00:34:57,344 She knows how to make whoever she wants to look bad. 553 00:34:57,517 --> 00:35:00,965 I'll be filing for divorce sooner than later, especially after today. 554 00:35:01,103 --> 00:35:03,000 [Sophie sighs] 555 00:35:03,172 --> 00:35:06,000 [Sophie] Even though today went terrible, I don't hate him. 556 00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:09,344 It's just reminded me, like, I cannot go back to that. 557 00:35:09,551 --> 00:35:12,482 I am happier without him, and I'm gonna continue this journey 558 00:35:12,689 --> 00:35:17,241 Maybe one day, he'll look back and realize the reality was, like, he did push me away. 559 00:35:17,413 --> 00:35:20,137 I hope he does realize that one day. Probably not, but... 560 00:35:23,965 --> 00:35:26,000 -[Julia] Hi, my love. -Hi! 561 00:35:26,172 --> 00:35:29,275 Before you leave, I want to give you something 562 00:35:29,448 --> 00:35:32,965 -[gasps] For Coco! -[Julia] For Coco. [laughs] 563 00:35:33,103 --> 00:35:34,379 [Jasmine] I love it. 564 00:35:34,551 --> 00:35:37,482 Look at it. Oh! 565 00:35:37,689 --> 00:35:39,482 -It's for the baby. -[Julia] No, that's for Coco. 566 00:35:39,655 --> 00:35:41,482 Coco, okay. For Coco. 567 00:35:46,551 --> 00:35:49,103 -[Jasmine] Okay. I love you. -I love you. See you soon. 568 00:35:50,448 --> 00:35:51,896 -Love you. -Love you so much. 569 00:35:56,482 --> 00:35:58,172 -[Stacey] Bye, Jazzy. -Bye. 570 00:35:58,344 --> 00:36:00,068 -[Stacey] Love you. -[Gino] Oh, boy. 571 00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:02,862 [Stacey] I was wondering, "Can I say goodbye?" 572 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,172 -Bye. Your baby's gonna be so beautiful. -Love you. 573 00:36:05,344 --> 00:36:06,551 -[kisses] -Take care. 574 00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:09,103 [kisses] Very proud of you. 575 00:36:09,275 --> 00:36:10,689 -God bless you and the baby. -You, too. 576 00:36:10,862 --> 00:36:12,000 We're always here for you. 577 00:36:12,137 --> 00:36:14,103 Let us know if you need anything. 578 00:36:16,586 --> 00:36:18,482 [somber instrumental music] 579 00:36:50,793 --> 00:36:52,137 [Julia] I will see you. 580 00:36:54,551 --> 00:36:56,689 -Thank you. -Yeah, if you ever come. 581 00:36:56,862 --> 00:36:58,620 -Yeah. -[Gino] Oh, yeah. 582 00:36:58,620 --> 00:37:01,793 For me, I'm not gonna sit back and cry about Jasmine and how she broke my heart. 583 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,482 I'm gonna move forward in my life. 584 00:37:03,655 --> 00:37:07,413 I'm gonna start talking to women and start dating again. 585 00:37:09,862 --> 00:37:12,344 I'm gonna find someone that's a great fit for me, 586 00:37:12,517 --> 00:37:16,000 that we can communicate, get along and be happy together. 587 00:37:17,172 --> 00:37:20,068 I learned a lesson from this whole relationship and... 588 00:37:21,137 --> 00:37:23,793 I'm never gonna get myself in that situation again. 589 00:37:23,965 --> 00:37:26,172 [somber instrumental music] 590 00:37:26,862 --> 00:37:28,000 -Ari. -Yeah. 591 00:37:28,172 --> 00:37:29,448 -Hey. -Hey. 592 00:37:31,689 --> 00:37:32,689 See you later. 593 00:37:33,896 --> 00:37:35,448 So, just, yeah. 594 00:37:39,379 --> 00:37:40,241 Hmm? 595 00:38:01,241 --> 00:38:03,689 [upbeat instrumental music] 596 00:38:03,896 --> 00:38:05,655 I think Bini's done a lot of things to hurt me, 597 00:38:05,827 --> 00:38:08,137 sometimes on purpose, sometimes not on purpose. 598 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:12,793 But we are parents to our son, so as long as Benny is a good father to Avi, 599 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,034 then we will have a decent relationship. 600 00:38:16,551 --> 00:38:17,896 I'm ready for the future. 601 00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:21,034 I feel like the best part of my life hasn't happened yet. 602 00:38:38,172 --> 00:38:39,862 -Bye, Nat. -Bye. 603 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,241 -Have a safe flight. -[Julia] You, too. 604 00:39:00,137 --> 00:39:02,448 I need to find something to put some of that stuff in 605 00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:04,103 -'cause I didn't bring much. -[Josh] How much stuff you got? 606 00:39:04,275 --> 00:39:06,965 Put it in that... Put it in that zipper bag. 607 00:39:08,172 --> 00:39:10,379 It's 'cause I'm a dad. I know this [bleep]. 608 00:39:10,551 --> 00:39:12,448 [Rob] I mean, I would've figured it out eventually. 609 00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:14,586 Robert, you need to clean up your room. 610 00:39:15,896 --> 00:39:17,344 That's crazy. 611 00:39:17,517 --> 00:39:19,241 [Josh] Things got pretty heated today. 612 00:39:19,413 --> 00:39:20,793 Felt like I lost my cool a little bit. 613 00:39:20,965 --> 00:39:25,586 You know, but I feel like I'm free from Natalie, and I feel, 614 00:39:25,758 --> 00:39:27,793 like, a million pounds lighter. 615 00:39:29,551 --> 00:39:31,137 We did something. 616 00:39:31,310 --> 00:39:34,689 Hearing Jen talk today just kind of, like, assured me a little bit more that, 617 00:39:34,862 --> 00:39:36,862 you know, maybe I'm making the right decision as far as 618 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,586 the type of girl that I need to be with. 619 00:39:39,758 --> 00:39:43,172 I mean, I'll always have a place for Natalie in my heart. 620 00:39:43,379 --> 00:39:46,482 We've had some great memories and some good moments, and some terrible moments. 621 00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:49,586 But I do wish her happiness. 622 00:39:55,379 --> 00:39:58,379 A lot more happened today than I was expecting. 623 00:39:58,551 --> 00:40:00,793 I would say our relationship's in a better place. 624 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,275 But I do wanna get Julia on track with, uh, this second opinion 625 00:40:17,965 --> 00:40:20,068 -Don't forget your ears. -Okay. 626 00:40:20,896 --> 00:40:23,034 The ears can hear everything. 627 00:40:23,241 --> 00:40:26,758 We're working on holding up my end of the bargain, getting her parents here. 628 00:40:26,931 --> 00:40:28,482 I still strongly feel against it, 629 00:40:28,689 --> 00:40:30,586 but as long as she's gonna keep going down this road with me 630 00:40:30,758 --> 00:40:34,000 and make good on her promise of starting a family, 631 00:40:34,137 --> 00:40:36,689 that's all that's gonna make me happy. 632 00:40:43,793 --> 00:40:46,758 Today was a lot. [sighs] And I don't think it ended... 633 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,206 in a way we all thought. 634 00:40:49,379 --> 00:40:52,689 I mean, I'm kind of walking away a little confused, 635 00:40:52,862 --> 00:40:55,482 and I don't really know what our future holds. 636 00:40:56,793 --> 00:40:58,379 [Florian speaking] 637 00:41:05,137 --> 00:41:06,275 Let's go home. 638 00:41:09,137 --> 00:41:10,448 [sighs] 639 00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:13,724 I'm always the one to say, like, "Never give up." 640 00:41:16,172 --> 00:41:19,965 That's a tough question right now to answer. 641 00:41:20,137 --> 00:41:24,275 But I'm tired of people mistaking my kindness for weakness. 642 00:41:24,448 --> 00:41:28,448 I'm a fighter, and I know Florian loves me, and I love him. 643 00:41:29,793 --> 00:41:31,275 But is love enough? 644 00:41:32,655 --> 00:41:34,655 [dramatic instrumental music]