1 00:00:01,586 --> 00:00:05,275 Previously on 90 Day: The Last Resort The Couples Tell All... 2 00:00:17,896 --> 00:00:22,724 Stacey and Florian, how do you think your relationship is today? 3 00:00:25,172 --> 00:00:27,758 We've been arguing, like, every day. 4 00:00:30,206 --> 00:00:32,896 Florian, you're a liability when you act like that, 5 00:00:33,034 --> 00:00:35,793 because what if he does something stupid one day? 6 00:00:35,965 --> 00:00:37,586 I'm responsible for him. 7 00:00:37,758 --> 00:00:39,689 Like, he's gonna [bleep] up our life. 8 00:00:42,379 --> 00:00:46,275 Natalie's, you know, sent me messages that say, "[bleep] me." 9 00:00:46,448 --> 00:00:47,896 - So, like, you know? - Whoa, whoa, whoa. 10 00:00:49,482 --> 00:00:52,586 For me, it was surprise that Josh broke up with me, 11 00:00:52,758 --> 00:00:54,000 so I couldn't really move on. 12 00:00:54,137 --> 00:00:55,516 Josh. 13 00:00:55,517 --> 00:00:59,586 - Yeah. - Did you ever consider Natalie your girlfriend? 14 00:00:59,793 --> 00:01:02,689 I don't think that I would have considered her my girlfriend, no. 15 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:07,379 Wow. 16 00:01:09,137 --> 00:01:11,172 Ten days after couples therapy, 17 00:01:11,379 --> 00:01:14,275 Jasmine spent the night away from home. 18 00:01:14,482 --> 00:01:16,172 And I kept asking her, "I know you're with Matt." 19 00:01:16,379 --> 00:01:19,586 And she never responded back, "No, I'm not with him." 20 00:01:19,758 --> 00:01:21,103 It's nonsense. 21 00:01:21,275 --> 00:01:23,482 He says his own lies so many times. 22 00:01:25,896 --> 00:01:30,103 Well, I think we'd all like to get to know Matt... 23 00:01:32,586 --> 00:01:33,896 Please welcome Matt, everybody. 24 00:01:34,586 --> 00:01:35,413 Hello. How are you? 25 00:01:48,413 --> 00:01:49,931 Hi there, Matt. How are you? 26 00:01:50,896 --> 00:01:52,724 Hello. How are you? 27 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,586 Hi. 28 00:02:00,275 --> 00:02:04,620 Matt, congratulations on your future baby. 29 00:02:04,793 --> 00:02:08,310 How did you feel when Jasmine told you she was pregnant? 30 00:02:09,827 --> 00:02:10,896 Umm... 31 00:02:49,103 --> 00:02:52,206 You were afraid to have kids, but you weren't afraid to have a kid with a married woman? 32 00:02:53,620 --> 00:02:57,620 I mean, things kind of just happen sometimes in life. 33 00:03:11,172 --> 00:03:14,310 I know Gino is trying to make you think that I'm some horrible, 34 00:03:14,482 --> 00:03:17,000 you know, like, marriage-breaker, 35 00:03:17,172 --> 00:03:21,206 and I'm not. I'm not that type of person. 36 00:03:21,379 --> 00:03:26,413 Um, Jasmine, you always talked about how Gino, um, was physically your type, 37 00:03:26,586 --> 00:03:30,206 but Matt looks very different from Gino. 38 00:03:30,379 --> 00:03:31,793 Explain that to me. 39 00:03:34,379 --> 00:03:35,896 Do you think he... 40 00:03:36,034 --> 00:03:38,000 - Julia, you said you think he looks like-- - Like Brandon. 41 00:03:39,655 --> 00:03:41,275 - Like Brandon? - I thought he looked like Florian. 42 00:03:41,448 --> 00:03:42,689 Anybody else seeing that? 43 00:03:42,862 --> 00:03:45,620 It's if Florian and Brandon had a child. 44 00:03:47,448 --> 00:03:50,000 Uh, well, I... 45 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,827 I don't know how to explain that. 46 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,896 I mean, he's a very attractive man, I won't deny that, 47 00:03:58,034 --> 00:04:01,172 who, even if he wasn't my type, like, I think he's very attractive. 48 00:04:01,344 --> 00:04:04,792 But I always found my husband attractive. 49 00:04:04,793 --> 00:04:08,310 I have always said it, and people don't believe me, but it is what it is. 50 00:04:11,172 --> 00:04:13,413 Umm, Matt, 51 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:16,413 what would you like to say to Gino? 52 00:04:17,931 --> 00:04:19,379 I'm not the type of person that's gonna sit here 53 00:04:19,586 --> 00:04:23,172 and argue with Gino about what happened there, what happened here. 54 00:04:23,344 --> 00:04:25,000 Umm... 55 00:04:25,172 --> 00:04:28,724 They asked me to come into some open relationship. I agreed. 56 00:04:28,896 --> 00:04:30,793 Umm, I don't know. 57 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,586 If you treat her like you just treat 58 00:04:39,758 --> 00:04:41,724 anybody you wanna be a dickhead to, right, 59 00:04:41,896 --> 00:04:44,896 you're gonna have problems with her, 'cause you're gonna hurt her feelings, 60 00:04:45,034 --> 00:04:47,379 she's gonna get upset, she's gonna cry. 61 00:04:47,551 --> 00:04:49,379 You're not gonna get anywhere with her, you know? 62 00:04:49,551 --> 00:04:53,620 You're just gonna end up bumping heads and arguing all the time. 63 00:04:53,793 --> 00:04:55,413 So, if... 64 00:04:55,586 --> 00:04:57,068 if you don't treat her... 65 00:04:58,689 --> 00:05:00,620 If you don't talk to her like somebody that you care for-- 66 00:05:00,793 --> 00:05:03,068 Shut up! You don't know anything! 67 00:05:03,241 --> 00:05:04,793 You don't know anything! 68 00:05:04,965 --> 00:05:06,793 I'm sure he tried his best to treat her nicely. 69 00:05:06,965 --> 00:05:09,000 I treated her nice. 70 00:05:09,137 --> 00:05:12,793 Gino, you said, when you guys were being intimate, that she still disrespected you. 71 00:05:12,965 --> 00:05:15,482 - Things were still not good, right? - Correct. 72 00:05:15,655 --> 00:05:16,896 So, why'd you agree to this? 73 00:05:18,724 --> 00:05:20,310 I don't understand why we agreed to this whole thing. 74 00:05:20,482 --> 00:05:24,724 I think he just loved her so damn much, he tried. He was trying. 75 00:05:24,896 --> 00:05:29,482 Overall, after all of this was done, I regret agreeing to open marriage. 76 00:05:29,655 --> 00:05:33,689 But I felt like I was trapped in a corner, like I had to make a decision, 77 00:05:33,862 --> 00:05:36,620 take action, because nothing was working for us. 78 00:05:36,793 --> 00:05:41,310 But it did seem like an odd contract in the very beginning, 79 00:05:41,482 --> 00:05:45,482 because your relationship was broken. 80 00:05:45,655 --> 00:05:47,379 - It wasn't as though you had a healthy relationship... - True. 81 00:05:47,551 --> 00:05:50,896 ...and said, "Let's bring somebody else in to spice things up." 82 00:05:51,034 --> 00:05:52,724 It was like your relationship was broken. 83 00:05:52,896 --> 00:05:56,689 So, I never really understood how having an open marriage 84 00:05:56,862 --> 00:06:00,172 - would help you become a stronger couple. - Well. Okay. 85 00:06:00,379 --> 00:06:04,103 Okay, I was thinking if I agreed to this open marriage or whatnot... 86 00:06:05,172 --> 00:06:07,275 that would make Jasmine happy. 87 00:06:07,448 --> 00:06:09,000 And if Jasmine's happy, 88 00:06:09,172 --> 00:06:10,793 I'm gonna be happy, because she's not gonna be attacking me anymore. 89 00:06:12,689 --> 00:06:14,413 Please, can I... Please don't interrupt me. 90 00:06:14,586 --> 00:06:15,931 Go ahead, Gino. 91 00:06:16,068 --> 00:06:18,000 Finally, we are both happy, right? 92 00:06:18,137 --> 00:06:20,413 We could get back together at some point, 93 00:06:20,586 --> 00:06:22,379 maybe start being intimate again... 94 00:06:22,551 --> 00:06:26,000 ...and then, get rid of the third person. 95 00:06:26,172 --> 00:06:32,103 But how did you think her having sex repeatedly with someone else 96 00:06:32,275 --> 00:06:34,000 would make you two closer, 97 00:06:34,137 --> 00:06:37,000 and not her closer to the person she's having sex with? 98 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,896 Umm, because it's an open marriage. 99 00:06:41,034 --> 00:06:44,793 And, for instance, Reba, one of the therapists, successfully executes it. 100 00:06:46,172 --> 00:06:47,793 Does anybody here think 101 00:06:47,965 --> 00:06:50,793 there was any way this contract was going to work? 102 00:06:52,896 --> 00:06:54,068 No. 103 00:06:54,896 --> 00:06:56,275 It was doomed from the start. 104 00:07:05,896 --> 00:07:06,896 That's true. 105 00:07:17,517 --> 00:07:21,413 So, Matt, you heard us earlier talking about this contract 106 00:07:21,586 --> 00:07:25,000 between Jasmine and Gino when it came to you. 107 00:07:25,172 --> 00:07:30,586 What did you understand were the rules of this open marriage contract? 108 00:07:30,758 --> 00:07:34,000 That she's allowed to, like, hang out with me or sleep with me, 109 00:07:34,172 --> 00:07:36,482 like, twice a week or something like that. 110 00:07:37,206 --> 00:07:40,517 So, Jasmine, what, if anything, 111 00:07:40,689 --> 00:07:44,103 was Gino supposed to be getting out of this situation between you and Matt? 112 00:07:46,275 --> 00:07:47,310 Cheeseburgers. 113 00:07:50,586 --> 00:07:52,275 Yeah, a cheeseburger, right? 114 00:07:52,448 --> 00:07:54,103 What? 115 00:07:56,586 --> 00:07:57,310 What are you talking... 116 00:08:09,310 --> 00:08:10,965 He was happy. 117 00:08:11,103 --> 00:08:15,310 And he will always tell me, like, "Oh, tell Matt to buy me, like, a burger." 118 00:08:15,482 --> 00:08:17,896 And I will come back home with a burger 119 00:08:18,034 --> 00:08:19,827 - that Matt will buy to him. - All right, this is a... 120 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,379 This is 100% a lie. 121 00:08:23,793 --> 00:08:25,482 100% lie, and on top-- 122 00:08:25,655 --> 00:08:26,895 sounds ridiculous. 123 00:08:26,896 --> 00:08:29,068 Jasmine never told me when she was going to Matt 124 00:08:29,241 --> 00:08:30,689 since she got back from couples therapy. 125 00:08:30,862 --> 00:08:32,931 Not once did she give me her location when I've asked for it. 126 00:08:33,068 --> 00:08:34,792 It's nonsense. 127 00:08:34,793 --> 00:08:37,896 Well, I think it's ridiculous. I think he's a terrible piece of [bleep] as well, 128 00:08:38,034 --> 00:08:40,000 because he's sleeping with another man's wife. 129 00:08:43,689 --> 00:08:45,793 that guy. I don't need to know him. 130 00:08:46,793 --> 00:08:49,103 He got my friend's wife pregnant! 131 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,482 Hey, dickhead, shut your mouth! 132 00:08:55,655 --> 00:08:57,793 Shut your mouth, senior citizen! 133 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,793 Um, we had a conversation at the gym before, but it was, like... 134 00:09:15,965 --> 00:09:19,482 Eventually, the part came out where they haven't been together, 135 00:09:19,655 --> 00:09:22,000 and I don't know what to say. 136 00:09:22,137 --> 00:09:24,275 This is a grown man. What do you want me to say to that? 137 00:09:31,931 --> 00:09:35,103 You know, I would care, but the thing is, 138 00:09:35,275 --> 00:09:39,758 - is he treated her bad-- - You don't know [bleep], man. You're [bleep] in the head. 139 00:09:42,172 --> 00:09:44,689 Yeah, we did! In the beginning, we did, idiot! 140 00:09:46,551 --> 00:09:47,586 What are you talking about? 141 00:09:49,310 --> 00:09:51,896 Such the ladies' man, aren't you, my man? 142 00:09:52,034 --> 00:09:55,275 Mother [bleep]! Yeah, yourself, asshole. 143 00:09:55,482 --> 00:09:57,482 - You're a ugly mother [bleep]! - Gino. 144 00:09:57,655 --> 00:09:58,793 Just shut your mouth, all right? 145 00:09:58,965 --> 00:10:01,000 I wanna get back on track. 146 00:10:02,482 --> 00:10:04,068 So, Jasmine, here's what I wanna know, 147 00:10:04,241 --> 00:10:09,000 you know, one of the rules of the contract was not to develop any 148 00:10:09,172 --> 00:10:12,724 - emotional connection. - Connection, yes. 149 00:10:15,172 --> 00:10:16,000 Yes. 150 00:10:36,724 --> 00:10:38,896 So... so, in your mind, 151 00:10:39,034 --> 00:10:42,793 what was the line that you were not supposed to cross 152 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,793 when it came to an emotional connection with Matt? 153 00:10:57,103 --> 00:11:00,896 I wanna know if Matt loves Jasmine. That's my question. 154 00:11:01,034 --> 00:11:02,931 I think that's a good question. 155 00:11:04,379 --> 00:11:07,724 Matt, do you love Jasmine? 156 00:11:13,379 --> 00:11:16,068 I do. She's carrying my child, so I do. 157 00:11:20,896 --> 00:11:22,931 Jasmine, do you love Matt? 158 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,896 It's like... 159 00:11:39,068 --> 00:11:40,309 Coming up... 160 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:44,896 Please welcome your therapists, James, Heidi, and Reba. 161 00:11:45,034 --> 00:11:46,585 I don't remember anyone saying to me, 162 00:11:46,586 --> 00:11:49,689 "Gino, this is not a good idea. You shouldn't do this open marriage." 163 00:11:49,862 --> 00:11:52,482 It's not my job to tell you what you should and shouldn't do. 164 00:11:55,896 --> 00:11:57,689 I think it's really easy to point fingers. 165 00:11:57,862 --> 00:11:58,689 No. 166 00:12:08,793 --> 00:12:10,275 Okay, let me ask one more time, 167 00:12:10,448 --> 00:12:12,379 do you love Matt? 168 00:12:18,689 --> 00:12:21,275 I don't know if I'm having, um... 169 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,862 emotional attachment to him. 170 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,275 I don't know if that is love. 171 00:12:26,448 --> 00:12:28,000 I don't even know what love is anymore. 172 00:12:28,172 --> 00:12:31,379 I don't even know what it is for me to be in love. 173 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,896 I... I don't have an answer for that. 174 00:12:36,034 --> 00:12:37,862 I do care about him. 175 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,275 I feel safe with him. I feel protected. 176 00:12:41,448 --> 00:12:43,620 I feel well taken care. And I like that feeling. 177 00:12:45,586 --> 00:12:46,206 But... 178 00:12:49,482 --> 00:12:50,931 I don't know if I love him. 179 00:12:54,689 --> 00:12:59,172 Let me ask you, do you still love Gino? 180 00:13:00,172 --> 00:13:01,758 Like... 181 00:13:07,689 --> 00:13:10,000 I'll be super honest to you, Shaun... 182 00:13:25,103 --> 00:13:25,793 I... 183 00:13:55,275 --> 00:13:58,586 Look, if you truly loved me, you wouldn't have-- 184 00:13:58,758 --> 00:14:02,000 You wouldn't have pursued Matt at the gym five months after marriage. 185 00:14:03,379 --> 00:14:06,586 You... Just hold on a second. 186 00:14:06,793 --> 00:14:10,103 You would not have pursued a man at the gym five months after marriage 187 00:14:10,275 --> 00:14:13,103 - if you truly loved me. That's not love. Sorry. - Like... 188 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,379 - God. Victim, victim, victim. Shut up. - No, no, I'm not your victim. 189 00:14:21,551 --> 00:14:22,620 Guys. 190 00:14:24,931 --> 00:14:28,896 Matt, do you have any final words for Jasmine? 191 00:14:30,758 --> 00:14:32,586 I love her and I care for her. 192 00:14:32,758 --> 00:14:35,103 Whether we're together or not, I still care for her. 193 00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:38,413 So, I'll always be there to support her, you know? 194 00:14:38,586 --> 00:14:41,758 I'm happy, and I think it's going in the right direction. 195 00:14:44,206 --> 00:14:46,620 Matt, we're very glad we had a chance to get to know you 196 00:14:46,793 --> 00:14:49,793 a little bit better today. Thank you very much for joining us. 197 00:14:49,965 --> 00:14:52,000 I know this was not very easy. 198 00:14:52,137 --> 00:14:55,172 We wish you the very best on becoming a new father. 199 00:14:55,344 --> 00:14:56,862 Thank you. I appreciate you. 200 00:15:01,068 --> 00:15:05,379 Gino, we haven't talked about your side of the open marriage... 201 00:15:05,551 --> 00:15:08,896 - Okay. - ...and whether you have been intimate with anyone. 202 00:15:09,034 --> 00:15:10,310 Have you? 203 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,103 I have not been intimate with anyone since... 204 00:15:18,275 --> 00:15:22,758 well, in the open marriage or even since we got back from couples therapy. 205 00:15:22,931 --> 00:15:29,000 Jasmine, do you regret committing to this idea of having an open marriage? 206 00:15:33,793 --> 00:15:35,103 I regret everything. 207 00:15:56,862 --> 00:15:59,000 I just wish I could take time back, 208 00:15:59,172 --> 00:16:04,586 and when I was not happy in my marriage, not being treated right, 209 00:16:04,758 --> 00:16:07,689 not receiving affection, sex, whatever. 210 00:16:07,862 --> 00:16:09,171 You weren't treating me right, 211 00:16:09,172 --> 00:16:10,205 - that's why I wasn't affectionate. - Whatever. 212 00:16:10,206 --> 00:16:12,206 - Or I wasn't being enough. - Stop this [bleep]. 213 00:16:12,379 --> 00:16:14,862 I wasn't being good enough for you, Gino. 214 00:16:15,896 --> 00:16:17,103 I should have just, like... 215 00:16:17,275 --> 00:16:19,310 And instead of perpetuating this, 216 00:16:19,482 --> 00:16:22,931 you know, prolonging this nightmare and this torture, 217 00:16:23,068 --> 00:16:24,586 I should have just left. 218 00:16:28,379 --> 00:16:32,206 Therapy cannot fix everything, and that my marriage was done. 219 00:16:35,482 --> 00:16:37,275 Well, Gino and Jasmine, 220 00:16:37,448 --> 00:16:39,482 thank you so much for opening up tonight. 221 00:16:39,689 --> 00:16:43,172 I know this is a very difficult situation to navigate. 222 00:16:43,344 --> 00:16:46,758 We wish you the best as you both move on. 223 00:16:46,931 --> 00:16:49,689 - Thanks. - Thank you, Shaun. I appreciate it. 224 00:16:49,862 --> 00:16:51,620 So, before we conclude, 225 00:16:51,793 --> 00:16:55,000 we've got one more very important group of people to talk with. 226 00:16:55,172 --> 00:16:58,931 Your therapists provided wonderful insights throughout the season. 227 00:16:59,103 --> 00:17:01,758 They've been watching backstage this whole time, 228 00:17:01,931 --> 00:17:04,000 and I wanna bring them out to get their thoughts. 229 00:17:05,689 --> 00:17:08,793 Please welcome James, Heidi, and Reba. 230 00:17:08,965 --> 00:17:10,275 Hi, there! 231 00:17:11,482 --> 00:17:13,482 - Hi, guys. - Hello! 232 00:17:13,689 --> 00:17:16,172 - Hey! Thank you. - Standing ovation. 233 00:17:16,344 --> 00:17:18,482 - Thank you. - Welcome. 234 00:17:18,655 --> 00:17:21,275 Okay. Hi, there. Nice to meet you. 235 00:17:21,448 --> 00:17:22,619 - Hi. - How are you? 236 00:17:22,620 --> 00:17:25,413 Well, you have been listening to the conversation. 237 00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:27,068 - Have we ever? - Absolutely. 238 00:17:27,241 --> 00:17:29,379 Have you ever? 239 00:17:29,551 --> 00:17:33,482 Do you look at these couples as being successful in finding out 240 00:17:33,655 --> 00:17:36,067 what they actually wanted in a relationship? 241 00:17:36,068 --> 00:17:39,758 Oh, Reba, you kind of, like, turned your head, like, "Ooh, I don't know." 242 00:17:39,931 --> 00:17:44,000 I think so. I think that there was a lot of 243 00:17:44,172 --> 00:17:47,310 wanting to do what they felt was right, 244 00:17:47,482 --> 00:17:50,586 - but not really listening to their internal compass. - Yeah. 245 00:17:50,758 --> 00:17:53,586 And I think it's really easy to point fingers, 246 00:17:53,758 --> 00:17:56,482 and I think we saw that and we have seen that today. 247 00:17:56,655 --> 00:17:58,379 But I still think that, at the end of the day, 248 00:17:58,551 --> 00:18:00,793 they saw that the problems were still there, 249 00:18:00,965 --> 00:18:03,172 and that's where this has led them today, 250 00:18:03,344 --> 00:18:05,206 that it's important that they move forward 251 00:18:05,379 --> 00:18:07,103 and find their own personal journeys, 252 00:18:07,275 --> 00:18:09,275 whether they wanted to stay in their marriage, 253 00:18:09,448 --> 00:18:12,689 whether they wanted something else, or that they wanted to be single. 254 00:18:12,862 --> 00:18:17,275 And I think that, in itself, is growth, and if you can walk away with growth, 255 00:18:17,448 --> 00:18:20,689 you've succeeded already in the first step. 256 00:18:20,862 --> 00:18:24,586 Okay, well... well, some of our couples have decided to separate. 257 00:18:24,793 --> 00:18:27,689 There are a few I'd still like to ask you three about. 258 00:18:27,862 --> 00:18:32,793 How surprised are you at where Gino and Jasmine are today? 259 00:18:32,965 --> 00:18:34,413 We were very surprised. 260 00:18:34,586 --> 00:18:38,793 Obviously, we were surprised at Jasmine's newest revelation, right? 261 00:18:38,965 --> 00:18:42,586 But I don't think any of us were surprised about how 262 00:18:42,758 --> 00:18:47,000 the end result of their... of pursuing an open marriage came out. 263 00:18:47,206 --> 00:18:50,275 I think, against my professional and personal advice, 264 00:18:50,448 --> 00:18:56,068 they rushed into a situation neither of them was really comfortable with. 265 00:18:56,241 --> 00:18:58,586 And we see what happens when we rush into things 266 00:18:58,758 --> 00:19:02,172 that are really complicated and really difficult. 267 00:19:02,344 --> 00:19:06,931 So, Reba, if a couple decides to go into an open marriage, 268 00:19:07,068 --> 00:19:11,758 it should not be if your marriage already is broken? 269 00:19:11,931 --> 00:19:13,792 100%. 270 00:19:13,793 --> 00:19:17,103 And I think that's what I was trying to convey to Jasmine when we had this conversation. 271 00:19:17,275 --> 00:19:21,620 As a polyamorous person, I want people to know, like, this is serious. 272 00:19:21,793 --> 00:19:26,310 Like, this is not, "Oh, let's, you know, slap a Band-Aid on our broken marriage," 273 00:19:26,482 --> 00:19:30,482 because now you're bringing other people into this broken situation. 274 00:19:30,689 --> 00:19:34,000 - Was that explained to them before they started? - Yeah. 275 00:19:34,137 --> 00:19:35,896 I was just gonna ask, no one really told me... 276 00:19:36,034 --> 00:19:36,896 How do you know? 277 00:19:40,758 --> 00:19:42,310 I don't remember anyone saying to me, 278 00:19:42,482 --> 00:19:45,689 "Gino, this is not a good idea. You shouldn't do this open marriage." 279 00:19:45,862 --> 00:19:48,103 I don't recall anyone telling me that, Reba. 280 00:19:48,275 --> 00:19:51,586 Yeah, so it's not my job to tell you what you should and shouldn't do. 281 00:19:58,103 --> 00:20:00,379 - I think it's really easy to point fingers. - No. 282 00:20:02,862 --> 00:20:04,619 Coming up... 283 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:07,482 You need to totally stop with this, like, disrespectful attitude towards everybody. 284 00:20:07,655 --> 00:20:10,275 They're trained therapists. They're trying to help us. 285 00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:14,310 I was there, I saw everything, and I-- 286 00:20:14,482 --> 00:20:16,517 You need to stop. Monster! 287 00:20:27,103 --> 00:20:29,586 I think it's really easy to point fingers. 288 00:20:29,758 --> 00:20:32,344 I talked to you guys about what's required. 289 00:20:32,517 --> 00:20:36,000 I talked to you about the conversations that need to be had, 290 00:20:36,137 --> 00:20:37,896 the agreements that need to be made, 291 00:20:38,034 --> 00:20:39,793 and the trust that needs to be there 292 00:20:39,965 --> 00:20:42,000 for you guys to walk down this path. 293 00:20:43,379 --> 00:20:46,103 Jasmine, you're not in your head, do you agree? 294 00:21:18,275 --> 00:21:19,275 Wow. 295 00:21:20,448 --> 00:21:22,379 I think that's true, yeah. 296 00:21:23,758 --> 00:21:25,655 All right, let's move on. 297 00:21:25,827 --> 00:21:28,000 What do you think about Natalie and Josh? 298 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,482 I think, as we're moving forward, 299 00:21:30,655 --> 00:21:32,482 we need to have clear boundaries for ourselves. 300 00:21:39,655 --> 00:21:42,275 I can see with Natalie, that she's made some strides, 301 00:21:42,448 --> 00:21:44,275 and I hear the work that she's trying to do. 302 00:21:44,448 --> 00:21:47,896 That said, I would love to see her continue to gain 303 00:21:48,034 --> 00:21:52,586 tools to help her ground herself, to help her be able to cope 304 00:21:52,758 --> 00:21:55,482 when she's in these intense situations, 305 00:21:55,689 --> 00:21:57,000 or even just everyday situations 306 00:21:57,172 --> 00:22:00,068 where we need to emotionally regulate. 307 00:22:00,241 --> 00:22:02,965 Oftentimes, our brain wants to release these chemicals. 308 00:22:03,103 --> 00:22:05,137 The cortisol gets built up and we want to scream, shout. 309 00:22:05,310 --> 00:22:07,379 We may wanna punch something, hit a couch, 310 00:22:07,551 --> 00:22:10,448 - whatever, throw a shoe, whatever it may be. - That was me. 311 00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:14,241 And so, the idea is, if in that moment I can catch myself, 312 00:22:14,448 --> 00:22:17,275 to get myself centered and grounded so I can speak to you 313 00:22:17,448 --> 00:22:20,000 in a calm, collected way to get my point across. 314 00:22:39,586 --> 00:22:42,793 Well, I think that's where you came to the place where you are now, right? 315 00:22:42,965 --> 00:22:45,275 As much as you may be attracted to certain qualities, 316 00:22:45,448 --> 00:22:47,689 clearly these... these other components 317 00:22:47,862 --> 00:22:50,034 of the relationship became unhealthy for the two of you. 318 00:22:50,862 --> 00:22:51,689 Absolutely, yeah. 319 00:22:53,275 --> 00:22:55,034 We do need to just cut it off. 320 00:22:56,689 --> 00:22:59,241 Okay, let's talk about Stacey and Florian. 321 00:22:59,413 --> 00:23:03,793 Obviously, um, still a lot of issues to navigate. 322 00:23:03,965 --> 00:23:05,654 Trust is one of them. 323 00:23:05,655 --> 00:23:09,689 What advice would you have for them as they move forward in their relationship? 324 00:23:09,862 --> 00:23:11,792 Well, I think, before we get to the advice, 325 00:23:11,793 --> 00:23:17,758 I think one thing I wanna note is that Stacey came into this wanting help for her marriage. 326 00:23:17,931 --> 00:23:21,344 And I know Florian was clear with that he didn't believe in therapy. 327 00:23:21,517 --> 00:23:24,344 So, right from the start, he was shutting this process down. 328 00:23:24,517 --> 00:23:30,103 I think that they fall into a parent-child role a lot, and... 329 00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:35,000 - and we definitely thought that he... One second, please. - Shh. Quiet. 330 00:23:35,172 --> 00:23:37,448 - Quiet, please. - We definitely see that this... 331 00:23:37,620 --> 00:23:39,689 that it's not an equal balance there. 332 00:23:39,862 --> 00:23:43,379 Florian needs to step up, and he hasn't at this point, 333 00:23:43,551 --> 00:23:46,758 and Stacey has to allow him to step up. 334 00:23:49,137 --> 00:23:52,586 Umm, not your mom. She's acting in the role as such. 335 00:23:54,655 --> 00:23:55,379 A mom. 336 00:23:56,034 --> 00:23:56,896 A mom. 337 00:23:58,862 --> 00:24:00,241 Okay, however you wanna see it. 338 00:24:07,344 --> 00:24:08,482 - No, here, let me-- - No, no, no! 339 00:24:09,896 --> 00:24:10,896 Florian, please. 340 00:24:12,275 --> 00:24:13,275 No, no. Enough, Stacey. 341 00:24:13,448 --> 00:24:14,896 Have some respect for them. 342 00:24:20,172 --> 00:24:21,758 Can someone stop him, please? 343 00:24:23,448 --> 00:24:26,448 They're trying to explain it, so let them explain, so you understand? 344 00:24:32,172 --> 00:24:33,689 Can I give a description? 345 00:24:34,586 --> 00:24:36,275 Is that okay with you? 346 00:24:36,448 --> 00:24:41,379 Florian, it's used to describe kind of just a general dynamic that happens. 347 00:24:41,551 --> 00:24:44,586 Let's say you guys may flip-flop roles. How about that? 348 00:24:44,758 --> 00:24:47,275 Oftentimes, one may be a parent, one may be a child. 349 00:24:47,448 --> 00:24:49,068 But what we're trying to say is, 350 00:24:49,241 --> 00:24:50,275 when you're in this dynamic, 351 00:24:50,448 --> 00:24:52,586 it kind of takes out the romantic piece. 352 00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:54,241 Right? Because you have to-- 353 00:24:55,482 --> 00:24:56,724 Okay. 354 00:24:58,275 --> 00:25:00,103 - I think she does an amazing job. - Oh, my God. 355 00:25:02,586 --> 00:25:03,655 Florian, show respect, please. 356 00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:05,793 Enough. Enough. 357 00:25:07,379 --> 00:25:10,172 Oh, Stace. 358 00:25:10,344 --> 00:25:12,896 - He doesn't get it. - This is impossible. 359 00:25:14,379 --> 00:25:15,586 Wow. 360 00:25:15,758 --> 00:25:16,965 How embarrassing. 361 00:25:17,655 --> 00:25:18,965 Total disrespect. 362 00:25:19,103 --> 00:25:21,275 Can't deal with this anymore. 363 00:25:30,034 --> 00:25:31,758 I can't deal with this anymore. 364 00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:38,448 He's so thickheaded. 365 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:41,103 It's just he's thickheaded, and the way he's talking to people, 366 00:25:41,275 --> 00:25:43,068 it's totally disrespectful. 367 00:25:43,241 --> 00:25:46,000 He talks about wanting respect. Well, he needs to give respect. 368 00:25:46,172 --> 00:25:49,379 He needs to sit there, he needs to listen, he needs to get educated, 369 00:25:49,551 --> 00:25:52,586 and he needs to just shut the [bleep] up. 370 00:25:52,793 --> 00:25:54,551 The thing is, anger is a protective emotion, 371 00:25:54,724 --> 00:25:56,551 and we see a lot of anger. 372 00:26:00,689 --> 00:26:01,723 Right here. 373 00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:04,793 Just stop. Stop. I'm not gonna tolerate this. 374 00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:11,241 Let's put some energy into your marriage. 375 00:26:11,413 --> 00:26:12,275 Thank you. 376 00:26:13,344 --> 00:26:14,482 Care about your wife. 377 00:26:15,896 --> 00:26:18,586 - Disgusting. - Disrespectful and rude. 378 00:26:18,758 --> 00:26:20,240 Yeah. 379 00:26:20,241 --> 00:26:21,586 I mean, this is what happens when we see people getting triggered. 380 00:26:21,758 --> 00:26:23,172 - Yeah. - Yeah. 381 00:26:23,344 --> 00:26:24,896 - So disrespectful. - Yeah. 382 00:26:27,448 --> 00:26:28,379 You need to stop. 383 00:26:28,551 --> 00:26:30,379 You need to totally stop with this, like, 384 00:26:30,586 --> 00:26:33,172 disrespectful attitude towards everybody. They're a trained therapists. 385 00:26:33,344 --> 00:26:36,448 They're educated. Like, they're trying to help us. 386 00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:39,448 But you're very aggressive and you're very scary, the way you talk. 387 00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:40,896 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 388 00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:43,068 Stop the [bleep] eyes and the [bleep]. 389 00:26:43,862 --> 00:26:44,862 Monster. 390 00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:51,172 I was there. I saw everything. 391 00:26:51,344 --> 00:26:54,655 And I don't need you to school me and... 392 00:26:55,068 --> 00:26:55,896 You need to stop. 393 00:26:57,827 --> 00:27:01,103 Umm, are Stacey and Florian coming back in? 394 00:27:04,896 --> 00:27:06,448 Listen, moving forward, 395 00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:09,482 moving forward, you gotta stop with this [bleep] aggression. 396 00:27:09,655 --> 00:27:13,379 Okay, I don't really wanna, like, go home with you like this. 397 00:27:15,034 --> 00:27:17,344 Yeah, go, go, go smoke your cigarette like you always do. 398 00:27:17,517 --> 00:27:18,689 You know, you said you were gonna quit. 399 00:27:18,862 --> 00:27:19,896 You're a liar. 400 00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:26,586 Never, never, never, never! 401 00:27:27,448 --> 00:27:28,965 Oh, my God. 402 00:27:37,586 --> 00:27:38,689 Welcome back, Stacey. 403 00:27:39,482 --> 00:27:40,723 So sorry. 404 00:27:40,724 --> 00:27:43,793 - I'm... I'm so sorry, you guys. - Don't apologize. 405 00:27:43,965 --> 00:27:45,448 - Thank you. - It's okay. 406 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:46,896 You did amazing. 407 00:27:47,034 --> 00:27:48,241 I had to walk away to just, like, 408 00:27:48,413 --> 00:27:49,965 - shift the energy. I just... - I get it. It's okay. 409 00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:51,793 - I'm sorry. You didn't deserve that. - It's okay. 410 00:27:51,965 --> 00:27:53,896 Don't apologize. You don't need to apologize. 411 00:27:54,034 --> 00:27:56,758 - But that was, like, my last straw. - Not on you, hon. 412 00:27:56,931 --> 00:27:58,275 - Don't worry about it. - Unbelievable. 413 00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:01,034 Sorry. 414 00:28:01,206 --> 00:28:02,758 You okay, Stacey? 415 00:28:04,068 --> 00:28:05,689 I'll be fine. I just... I'm really upset. 416 00:28:05,862 --> 00:28:09,000 The way he's reacting, it's uncalled for and unacceptable. 417 00:28:10,896 --> 00:28:12,655 Stacey, stop doing that if you can, 418 00:28:12,827 --> 00:28:15,241 - because it's not yours to clean up. - Okay. 419 00:28:15,413 --> 00:28:18,862 - Yeah. - Where do I go from here? I don't know what to do. 420 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,965 You should go to therapy. 421 00:28:21,103 --> 00:28:23,172 - Okay. I'm down. - Yes, you should. 422 00:28:23,344 --> 00:28:27,344 - Take care of your mental health. - Yes. Thank you. I will. 423 00:28:27,517 --> 00:28:31,275 Okay. Well, Reba, James and Heidi, thank you so much. 424 00:28:31,448 --> 00:28:33,068 I know this was a lot of work for you, 425 00:28:33,241 --> 00:28:37,551 and we appreciate all the effort that you put into helping 426 00:28:37,724 --> 00:28:41,172 our couples really understand what they need in a relationship. 427 00:28:41,344 --> 00:28:43,034 - So, thank you very much. - Thank you. 428 00:28:43,206 --> 00:28:45,172 We love you. 429 00:28:46,068 --> 00:28:48,379 - We love you. - Bye, guys. 430 00:28:48,586 --> 00:28:50,172 - Bye. - Bye. 431 00:28:50,344 --> 00:28:52,482 - Bye. - Bye. Bye-bye. 432 00:28:52,655 --> 00:28:55,000 - Thank you for everything. - Yes. 433 00:28:56,689 --> 00:28:59,586 Well, it seems like Florian is not coming back. 434 00:28:59,793 --> 00:29:02,172 But we do need to wrap things up. 435 00:29:02,344 --> 00:29:07,379 We have come to the end of 90 Day: The Last Resort The Couples Tell All. 436 00:29:07,551 --> 00:29:10,000 I want to thank all of the couples for participating tonight 437 00:29:10,172 --> 00:29:14,344 and for allowing us to join them on their Last Resortourneys. 438 00:29:14,517 --> 00:29:16,689 I hope to see you all again very soon. 439 00:29:16,862 --> 00:29:19,103 Until next time, I'm Shaun Robinson. 440 00:29:19,275 --> 00:29:20,000 Have a great evening. 441 00:29:20,172 --> 00:29:21,241 Thank you. 442 00:29:22,172 --> 00:29:23,965 - Thanks, Shaun. - Thank you, Shaun. 443 00:29:24,103 --> 00:29:25,068 Thank you, Shaun. 444 00:29:25,758 --> 00:29:26,965 Bye, you. 445 00:29:34,241 --> 00:29:38,137 You know, I'm very disappointed about Florian lashing out. 446 00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:41,655 I just feel like he needs to learn to tone it down 447 00:29:41,827 --> 00:29:45,172 and find a way to voice it in a professional manner. 448 00:29:45,344 --> 00:29:48,172 It's unacceptable and I'm not taking this anymore. 449 00:29:53,965 --> 00:29:57,275 - Hello? Hey. - Hey! 450 00:29:59,172 --> 00:30:00,965 Oh, so good to see you. 451 00:30:01,103 --> 00:30:02,689 - I changed a little. - A little? 452 00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:07,172 - Look at you! - I know! 453 00:30:07,344 --> 00:30:10,034 - Oh, you're glowing. - Thank you. 454 00:30:10,206 --> 00:30:13,965 Look, I... I just wanted to talk to you. I know that this has... 455 00:30:14,793 --> 00:30:16,689 been a hard day. 456 00:30:16,862 --> 00:30:18,586 - Very tough. - Yeah. 457 00:30:18,758 --> 00:30:22,482 I don't feel like I had an opportunity to say my part of the story. 458 00:30:22,655 --> 00:30:23,689 It was just, like... 459 00:30:28,448 --> 00:30:30,896 Let them think what they want. 460 00:30:31,034 --> 00:30:34,448 Let them have their opinions, okay? 461 00:30:35,275 --> 00:30:37,344 This is about your freedom. 462 00:30:49,965 --> 00:30:52,379 Yeah. Yeah. 463 00:30:56,689 --> 00:31:01,482 Jasmine, you know what I see? I see that you and Gino are both hurting right now. 464 00:31:13,551 --> 00:31:14,482 Yeah. 465 00:31:21,896 --> 00:31:22,896 Yeah. 466 00:31:25,241 --> 00:31:26,275 Yeah. 467 00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:35,275 Yes. You know your truth, Jasmine. 468 00:31:35,448 --> 00:31:38,379 And what's needed right now, what you need 469 00:31:38,551 --> 00:31:40,103 is what this baby needs, 470 00:31:40,275 --> 00:31:42,275 and that's to protect your peace. 471 00:31:42,448 --> 00:31:47,000 Focus on you and your family and your baby, 472 00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:49,793 b1ecause that is who needs you to be strong right now, 473 00:31:49,965 --> 00:31:52,482 Okay? 474 00:31:52,655 --> 00:31:56,448 And you have to focus on what you need, okay? 475 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:58,275 Now, come here. 476 00:32:05,482 --> 00:32:06,482 Coming up... 477 00:32:06,689 --> 00:32:08,793 You don't have to make jokes all the time. 478 00:32:08,965 --> 00:32:12,000 This is our life. This is my life, too. Like, it's not a joke. 479 00:32:12,172 --> 00:32:14,482 Like, does this ring mean anything to you? 480 00:32:16,448 --> 00:32:18,103 I ain't putting up with this [bleep]. 481 00:32:29,034 --> 00:32:31,275 Just trying to process everything. 482 00:32:31,448 --> 00:32:33,482 I don't know where all this anger is coming from, though. 483 00:32:33,655 --> 00:32:39,103 Like, I don't know, it's some deep-rooted issue for him to just always... 484 00:32:39,275 --> 00:32:42,275 I get it. He wants to protect and defend. 485 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,172 Hey. 486 00:32:47,551 --> 00:32:48,586 Yeah. 487 00:33:02,793 --> 00:33:04,896 And go to church and talk to a priest. 488 00:33:13,862 --> 00:33:16,137 You don't have to make jokes all the time. 489 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:19,103 I'm serious. This is... This is our life. This is my life, too. 490 00:33:19,275 --> 00:33:20,964 Like, it's not a joke. 491 00:33:20,965 --> 00:33:24,241 Like, your demeanor. It's just, I don't wanna live the rest of my... 492 00:33:24,413 --> 00:33:25,999 I don't even know. 493 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,275 We're just gonna keep going in circles and circles and circles. Just... 494 00:33:29,586 --> 00:33:30,689 calm down. 495 00:33:32,896 --> 00:33:35,068 Maybe you should go to Albania for a little bit. 496 00:33:37,551 --> 00:33:39,068 Maybe you go for a little bit, I don't know. 497 00:33:43,965 --> 00:33:46,000 Like, does this ring mean anything to you? 498 00:33:48,448 --> 00:33:49,862 It's not a freaking joke. 499 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,862 I ain't putting up with this [bleep]. 500 00:33:57,896 --> 00:34:00,379 I mean, you never know. I might take a note out of Sophie's book 501 00:34:00,551 --> 00:34:03,379 and just do my own thing for a while. 502 00:34:03,551 --> 00:34:05,068 Is Florian gonna be okay with that? 503 00:34:07,172 --> 00:34:08,275 I don't know. 504 00:34:08,448 --> 00:34:11,206 But I have to do what's right for me. 505 00:34:13,689 --> 00:34:16,275 - Hey, anybody got any bags? - Yeah. 506 00:34:16,448 --> 00:34:18,965 Bags. Bags. Trash bags. 507 00:34:19,103 --> 00:34:22,965 I wanted really badly to be able to get through this Tell All 508 00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:25,000 without Sophie and I at each other's throats. 509 00:34:25,172 --> 00:34:30,034 But it's very evident that Sophie will never be a good partner for me 510 00:34:30,206 --> 00:34:33,793 because she cannot and will not forget any of the past, 511 00:34:33,965 --> 00:34:36,655 and she will always have whatever in her pocket 512 00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:38,448 to try to say that is just [bleep] wild 513 00:34:38,620 --> 00:34:41,482 to make me look like I'm invalid. 514 00:34:41,689 --> 00:34:44,379 Whenever I decide to speak up about some of the actual 515 00:34:44,551 --> 00:34:47,000 that I went through while we were together, 516 00:34:47,172 --> 00:34:49,379 Sophie starts saying outlandish, wild [bleep]. 517 00:34:49,551 --> 00:34:50,965 It's like her go-to immediately. 518 00:34:51,103 --> 00:34:54,000 She knows how to make herself look good. 519 00:34:54,137 --> 00:34:57,344 She knows how to make whoever she wants to look bad. 520 00:34:57,517 --> 00:35:00,965 I'll be filing for divorce sooner than later, especially after today. 521 00:35:03,172 --> 00:35:06,000 Even though today went terrible, I don't hate him. 522 00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:09,344 It's just reminded me, like, I cannot go back to that. 523 00:35:09,551 --> 00:35:12,482 I am happier without him, and I'm gonna continue this journey 524 00:35:12,689 --> 00:35:17,241 Maybe one day, he'll look back and realize the reality was, like, he did push me away. 525 00:35:17,413 --> 00:35:20,137 I hope he does realize that one day. Probably not, but... 526 00:35:23,965 --> 00:35:26,000 - Hi, my love. - Hi! 527 00:35:26,172 --> 00:35:29,275 Before you leave, I want to give you something 528 00:35:29,448 --> 00:35:32,965 - For Coco! - For Coco. 529 00:35:33,103 --> 00:35:34,379 I love it. 530 00:35:34,551 --> 00:35:37,482 Look at it. Oh! 531 00:35:37,689 --> 00:35:39,482 - It's for the baby. - No, that's for Coco. 532 00:35:39,655 --> 00:35:41,482 Coco, okay. For Coco. 533 00:35:46,551 --> 00:35:49,103 - Okay. I love you. - I love you. See you soon. 534 00:35:50,448 --> 00:35:51,896 - Love you. - Love you so much. 535 00:35:56,482 --> 00:35:58,172 - Bye, Jazzy. - Bye. 536 00:35:58,344 --> 00:36:00,068 - Love you. - Oh, boy. 537 00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:02,862 I was wondering, "Can I say goodbye?" 538 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,172 - Bye. Your baby's gonna be so beautiful. - Love you. 539 00:36:05,344 --> 00:36:06,551 Take care. 540 00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:09,103 Very proud of you. 541 00:36:09,275 --> 00:36:10,689 - God bless you and the baby. - You, too. 542 00:36:10,862 --> 00:36:12,000 We're always here for you. 543 00:36:12,137 --> 00:36:14,103 Let us know if you need anything. 544 00:36:50,793 --> 00:36:52,137 I will see you. 545 00:36:54,551 --> 00:36:56,689 - Thank you. - Yeah, if you ever come. 546 00:36:56,862 --> 00:36:58,619 - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. 547 00:36:58,620 --> 00:37:01,793 For me, I'm not gonna sit back and cry about Jasmine and how she broke my heart. 548 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,482 I'm gonna move forward in my life. 549 00:37:03,655 --> 00:37:07,413 I'm gonna start talking to women and start dating again. 550 00:37:09,862 --> 00:37:12,344 I'm gonna find someone that's a great fit for me, 551 00:37:12,517 --> 00:37:16,000 that we can communicate, get along and be happy together. 552 00:37:17,172 --> 00:37:20,068 I learned a lesson from this whole relationship and... 553 00:37:21,137 --> 00:37:23,793 I'm never gonna get myself in that situation again. 554 00:37:26,862 --> 00:37:28,000 - Ari. - Yeah. 555 00:37:28,172 --> 00:37:29,448 - Hey. - Hey. 556 00:37:31,689 --> 00:37:32,689 See you later. 557 00:37:33,896 --> 00:37:35,448 So, just, yeah. 558 00:37:39,379 --> 00:37:40,241 Hmm? 559 00:38:03,896 --> 00:38:05,655 I think Bini's done a lot of things to hurt me, 560 00:38:05,827 --> 00:38:08,137 sometimes on purpose, sometimes not on purpose. 561 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:12,793 But we are parents to our son, so as long as Benny is a good father to Avi, 562 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,034 then we will have a decent relationship. 563 00:38:16,551 --> 00:38:17,896 I'm ready for the future. 564 00:38:18,034 --> 00:38:21,034 I feel like the best part of my life hasn't happened yet. 565 00:38:38,172 --> 00:38:39,862 - Bye, Nat. - Bye. 566 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,241 - Have a safe flight. - You, too. 567 00:39:00,137 --> 00:39:02,448 I need to find something to put some of that stuff in 568 00:39:02,620 --> 00:39:04,103 - 'cause I didn't bring much. - How much stuff you got? 569 00:39:04,275 --> 00:39:06,965 Put it in that... Put it in that zipper bag. 570 00:39:08,172 --> 00:39:10,379 It's 'cause I'm a dad. I know this [bleep]. 571 00:39:10,551 --> 00:39:12,448 I mean, I would've figured it out eventually. 572 00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:14,586 Robert, you need to clean up your room. 573 00:39:15,896 --> 00:39:17,344 That's crazy. 574 00:39:17,517 --> 00:39:19,241 Things got pretty heated today. 575 00:39:19,413 --> 00:39:20,793 Felt like I lost my cool a little bit. 576 00:39:20,965 --> 00:39:25,586 You know, but I feel like I'm free from Natalie, and I feel, 577 00:39:25,758 --> 00:39:27,793 like, a million pounds lighter. 578 00:39:29,551 --> 00:39:31,137 We did something. 579 00:39:31,310 --> 00:39:34,689 Hearing Jen talk today just kind of, like, assured me a little bit more that, 580 00:39:34,862 --> 00:39:36,862 you know, maybe I'm making the right decision as far as 581 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,586 the type of girl that I need to be with. 582 00:39:39,758 --> 00:39:43,172 I mean, I'll always have a place for Natalie in my heart. 583 00:39:43,379 --> 00:39:46,482 We've had some great memories and some good moments, and some terrible moments. 584 00:39:47,586 --> 00:39:49,586 But I do wish her happiness. 585 00:39:55,379 --> 00:39:58,379 A lot more happened today than I was expecting. 586 00:39:58,551 --> 00:40:00,793 I would say our relationship's in a better place. 587 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,275 But I do wanna get Julia on track with, uh, this second opinion 588 00:40:17,965 --> 00:40:20,068 - Don't forget your ears. - Okay. 589 00:40:20,896 --> 00:40:23,034 The ears can hear everything. 590 00:40:23,241 --> 00:40:26,758 We're working on holding up my end of the bargain, getting her parents here. 591 00:40:26,931 --> 00:40:28,482 I still strongly feel against it, 592 00:40:28,689 --> 00:40:30,586 but as long as she's gonna keep going down this road with me 593 00:40:30,758 --> 00:40:34,000 and make good on her promise of starting a family, 594 00:40:34,137 --> 00:40:36,689 that's all that's gonna make me happy. 595 00:40:43,793 --> 00:40:46,758 Today was a lot. And I don't think it ended... 596 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,206 in a way we all thought. 597 00:40:49,379 --> 00:40:52,689 I mean, I'm kind of walking away a little confused, 598 00:40:52,862 --> 00:40:55,482 and I don't really know what our future holds. 599 00:41:05,137 --> 00:41:06,275 Let's go home. 600 00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:13,724 I'm always the one to say, like, "Never give up." 601 00:41:16,172 --> 00:41:19,965 That's a tough question right now to answer. 602 00:41:20,137 --> 00:41:24,275 But I'm tired of people mistaking my kindness for weakness. 603 00:41:24,448 --> 00:41:28,448 I'm a fighter, and I know Florian loves me, and I love him. 604 00:41:29,793 --> 00:41:31,275 But is love enough?