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[Victor Conte] People joke that
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I like to blow things up
just to see where all the pieces land.
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They've called me...
A lot of people have called me a genius...
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- [intriguing music playing]
- ...but, you know,
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sometimes people call that reckless.
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This is a story that broke last week
and it's been growing ever since.
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A federal grand jury
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is going to begin hearing testimony
this week from some very major athletes.
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[reporter 1] Investigating Victor Conte.
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[reporters] Victor Conte.
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[reporter 2] The president
of BALCO Laboratories.
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[Conte] "BALCO" is a word
that's now forever in the lexicon.
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[man] BALCO.
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BALCO.
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The biggest doping scandal
in sports history.
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[Conte] Articles had come out saying
I was a modern-day Al Capone,
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the BALCO mastermind...
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[chuckling]...Dr. Frankenstein,
you know, from BALCO.
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[reporter 3] They were searching
for evidence,
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linking Conte to a previously
undetected steroid known as THG.
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They called it The Clear.
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It is a designer steroid...
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Made for the sole purpose of cheating.
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It is now a full-blown conspiracy
with ties to top athletes...
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[news anchor 1] From baseball,
football, track and field...
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[news anchor 2] Including
home run record breaker, Barry Bonds.
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[commentator] A high drive...
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[Conte] The whole investigation,
in my opinion,
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was all about chasing headlines.
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Unfortunately, some in professional sports
are not setting much of an example.
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This is about values,
it's about our culture.
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Major League Baseball had a very,
very serious problem with steroids.
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It wasn't dealt with.
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[Conte] I knew
they didn't have the evidence
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that they claimed that they had,
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and that's why I walked out into
a sea of reporters and did this.
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That meant this.
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[Tim Montgomery] Victor Conte
is a person that can come across
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to be anybody he wants to.
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[Jeff Novitzky] I think most people
who hear and see Victor Conte
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realize him for who he is,
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and that's, you know, a used car,
snake oil salesman, bullshit artist.
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[Conte] It was fun, it was exciting.
It was about trying to be great.
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When Marion Jones hit the finish line
and won the gold medal,
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when Barry Bonds hit all those home runs.
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[commentator] Bonds hits one!
Deep to right field.
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The record has changed again. Barry Bonds...
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[Conte] You know,
any of these great accomplishments,
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those are things
that I'll always be proud of.
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["Your Sweet Love"
by Lee Hazlewood playing]
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♪ Stranger's arms reach out ♪
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♪ To me ♪
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♪ 'Cause they know ♪
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♪ I'm so lonely ♪
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♪ Then my mind ♪
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♪ Goes back to you ♪
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♪ Your sweet love ♪
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♪ Sees me through ♪
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Welcome to the hall of fame,
or hall of shame,
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depending upon your viewpoint.
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Okay, this is one
of, uh, two autographed photos
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that I have from Barry.
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This one's "To Victor"
and the other one is "To BALCO."
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And this is a Sports Illustrated
of Marion Jones here.
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This is back in the 2000 time frame.
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This is Tim Montgomery
at the world championships in 2001.
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That was in Edmonton, Canada.
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When we started working with him,
his name was Tiny Tim.
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Charlie Francis, he said,
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"Show me somebody not on steroids
and I'll show you a loser."
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There is a level playing field,
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it's just not the one
everyone thought it was, okay?
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[producer] A lot of these people
used steroids, right?
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From 1984 when I started BALCO
until 2000, for 16 years,
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I never gave anybody
any sort of illegal drugs.
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It was a legitimate business providing
nutritional element information
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through comprehensive blood testing.
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Thank you very much.
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Yes, as Ken stated,
my name is Victor Conte,
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and I'm the executive director
of BALCO Laboratories,
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BALCO standing for, uh,
Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative,
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and I'm also the... the founder
of something called the SNAC system.
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They've called it Victor's knack,
that whatever I decide to do,
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I can go straight to the top,
and I taught myself.
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I got a library card,
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and I pulled
all these scientific journals,
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then I would read 'em all.
I went across zinc and muscle strength,
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zinc and testosterone.
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I learned athletes can be low in iron,
they could be lower in copper.
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Some of these deficiencies are connected
with various symptoms like
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muscle cramps or lack of concentration.
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And we... Hopefully, by, uh,
giving some input,
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we can help the United States
win a few more gold medals.
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I put together this partnership
and raised money and started BALCO.
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Update on the BALCO Laboratory facility.
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There's a new building.
We'll walk into the lab area.
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We started testing athletes,
one led to another, and...
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The first-world-class athletes
that I tested were in track and field.
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And then Matt Biondi, who was the world's
fastest swimmer at the time.
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So I could collect all this data
that was valuable to them.
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You know, I was kind of
a natural-born promoter.
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The next thing you know, NBA players.
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I worked with the entire
Seattle SuperSonics team in '92 and '93.
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[sports commentator speaks indistinctly]
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But for me to actually enhance
the performance of the athletes,
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I had to learn
how to formulate supplements.
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So I created a whole line of mineral
and trace element products
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and formulated ZMA, and that... I mean,
it was like a rocket ship.
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Pretty soon, Bill Romanowski showed up
from the Denver Broncos.
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And he... he was the gateway
to the NFL for... for me.
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Then all of a sudden
I had 250 NFL players.
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[indistinct chatter and laughter]
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[Conte] Are you going to assault
the world record, Gregg?
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[chuckles] Mr. Zinc. Call me Zinc.
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- [Conte] Mr. Zinc.
- [laughter]
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[Conte] So from '84,
all the way until 2000,
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everything that BALCO and SNAC did
was completely legal, completely clean.
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No athletes were ever given
any sort of performance-enhancing drug.
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[chuckling] Now, were some of these guys
using drugs, like shot putters? Of course.
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I just wasn't involved
in... in providing those to them.
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[clapping]
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But I knew the use
of performance-enhancing drugs
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in Olympic sport was rampant.
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[commentator] Carl Lewis is in lane three.
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[Conte] In the Olympic Games
in '88 in Seoul,
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of course Ben Johnson stands out.
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[commentator 1] And Johnson does it again.
Unbelievable. Nine-seven-nine.
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[commentator 2]
New world record. Incredible.
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Now, I've just been handed
a piece of paper that, if it's right,
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it'll be the most dramatic story out of
these Olympics or perhaps any others.
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Ben Johnson
has been stripped of his gold medal
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for testing positive to using
anabolic steroids.
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[reporter] He is one of the athletes
under a cloud of suspicion for a while,
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as is his coach, Charlie Francis.
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[Charlie Francis] Where you offer
an athlete only two choices,
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run clean and lose or take drugs and win,
then of course the choices will be clear.
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[Conte] Working with elite athletes,
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I realized this is what happens
at the elite level of sport.
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This is what it takes
to go to the next level.
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Reports on a frightening sign
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that sports competition
is being pushed too far.
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Steroids.
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[reporter] America's newest drug epidemic.
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President Bush recently signed a bill
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which, for the first time, classifies
steroids as controlled substances.
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Said it's the classic dilemma between
the fair play associated with sport
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and the desire to win.
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[people clamoring]
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In my experience, 80% of athletes say,
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"I'm not gonna invest 10 years of my life
then walk away, so give me those pills."
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[Montgomery] I hate losing.
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I hate for anyone to look at me
and say they beat me.
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And I think that comes from my childhood,
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because they called me Tiny Tim.
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I hate the name Tiny Tim.
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I remember watching Conan the Barbarian.
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["Wheel of Pain" by B. Poledouris plays]
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How he pushed the wheel
and he became so strong.
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I would cut grass.
We had an old push lawn mower.
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The lawn mower was this tall,
and it had a little centerpiece there,
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so I'd be pushing, you know,
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and everybody was looking at me,
at little Timmy push the lawn mower.
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I'd push all that yard because I wanted
to be like Conan the Barbarian.
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I wanted to be stronger, faster.
I wanted to be everything.
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So I was really, in essence,
training myself for my near future.
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My goal was... was
to be the best in the world,
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the greatest of all time.
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[commentator] Tim Montgomery of the US
may be, uh, a sleeper in this field.
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[Montgomery] In 1997, I ran nine times
under ten seconds...
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[commentator]
Montgomery and Donovan Bailey.
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...so I knew what I could do naturally.
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I just needed more power.
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[commentator] He's a little bit smaller.
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I think he may need
to put on a few pounds,
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and I think his time is coming...
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[Montgomery] So, in 1999,
I moved down to Raleigh, North Carolina,
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and I started training with Trevor Graham,
Marion Jones' coach.
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And the workouts was...
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Couldn't finish 'em.
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So I go to Trevor's house
and he got tapes of Ben Johnson.
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I mean...
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I can't do no start like that.
It ain't how I start.
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He's like, "No, you see that raw power?"
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And that's when I was introduced
to the dark side.
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Performance-enhancing drugs.
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[Conte] The Ben Johnson race,
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eventually, something like six or seven
out of the eight guys
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were suspected of using
performance-enhancing drugs.
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If you run at least two meters faster,
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this is the difference
of 10 flat and 9-8. Okay?
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So you're... you're... A guy not on stuff
is going to have a very difficult time
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competing with somebody who's on stuff.
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[Montgomery] When I got with Graham,
I saw that the best was doing it.
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I assumed that this was
what everybody was doing.
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[Conte] When I realized
the hypocrisy of all of this,
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I decided it was time to start playing
by the real rules of sport,
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and the rest is history, as they say.
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[hard rock music playing]
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[Conte] I went to a... a bodybuilding show
in San Francisco,
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and I was introduced
to these 25 pro bodybuilders,
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all the biggest names in the sport.
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Whoo!
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[Conte] And it's
the only professional sport
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where the use of steroids is a mandate.
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And so I stood up to tell them we did this
testing of minerals and trace elements,
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but we also have the ability to do
all of the comprehensive drug testing.
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[hard rock music continues]
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[Conte] We tested those 25 bodybuilders...
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[ding]
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...and I said, "These Winstrol
tablets you think you're taking?"
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"There's no Winstrol in your urine.
These are fake."
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That's how I became a part of that world
and tried to learn about steroids.
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It was a new challenge,
and that's what makes me tick.
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You know,
that's what got the wheels turning.
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[riveting music playing]
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[Catlin] I'm Oliver Catlin.
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I am the son of the guru
of sport drug testing, Dr. Don Catlin.
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And today I am the president
of Banned Substances Control Group.
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In anti-doping, the level playing field
is what we strive for,
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but it's hard to achieve.
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Victor knew what he wanted
in undetectable drugs,
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but he didn't know
how to make those himself,
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and that's where the skill set
of Patrick Arnold as a chemist came in.
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[Conte] At the Mr. Olympia Expo
in Las Vegas
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is where I met Patrick Arnold,
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and he just said he had some stuff
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that seemed to, you know,
help with recovery.
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He didn't really even tell me what it was.
And so I bought a bottle of it from him.
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It was a clear liquid,
you used an eyedropper
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and you put drops under your tongue.
It was sublingual absorption.
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Took it myself and it felt great.
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And then I did some testing on it,
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where I measured my testosterone
the next day, the next day and the next.
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And I realized, "Boy, this stuff
acts like an anabolic steroid."
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Many of the steroids had been built
by pharmaceuticals and just not used,
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but when we got to BALCO,
new drugs were literally created.
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Patrick bubbled hydrogen through
gestrinone, a birth control pill,
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and it turned into one of the most
anabolic steroids that was ever created.
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[Conte] Then when I did the comprehensive
drug testing, it came back as clean.
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- [ding]
- It was undetectable.
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Oh, shit, you know?
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Then the light bulb went on.
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[Catlin] And I think he saw
performance-enhancing drugs
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that were undetectable
were a much quicker avenue
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than the legitimate nutrition products
that he was selling.
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That's when I started giving it
to athletes, at the beginning of 2000.
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How about this?
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[producer] What do you got?
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This is Marion Jones
at the, uh, 2000 Olympics in Sydney
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that they opened up where she wins
by something like four meters.
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That just shows you the type of dominance
that Marion had at that time.
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Going into the 2000 Summer Olympics,
Marion Jones was the golden girl.
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[commentator 1] ...Jones taking command.
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[commentator 2] She has yet to be beaten.
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[commentator 3] Her goal this year,
she'll say it: To be undefeated.
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She's a competitor.
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Marion Jones is making
three million dollars a year.
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In Sydney, she's going for five medals,
trying to be the greatest of all time.
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The only time I even consider
the quest for five
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is when people mention it. [laughs]
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[Conte] She had sponsorships
with General Motors,
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American Express, Nike, you know,
the commercial "Can you dig it?"
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[Jones] We need more role models.
The more, the better.
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Can you dig it?
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I had not talked with Marion,
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but had talked with her trainer,
Trevor Graham.
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They were using traditional testosterone
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and EPO and growth hormone,
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and they said, "We hear you have
this undetectable substance."
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"Can you help, uh, Marion Jones?"
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And immediately I realized
this was a very, very big moment,
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and I sent a box
of some of this stuff to them.
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[Australia's National Anthem,
"Advance Australia Fair" playing]
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[woman] I promise that we shall take part
in these Olympic Games,
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committing ourselves to a sport
without doping and without drugs.
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Once we got there,
we created a... a calendar for Marion.
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We determined what to take,
how much to take, when to take it.
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Of course, it was all based
on circumventing the testing.
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[commentator] Marion Jones has seven
of the fastest 11 times ever run.
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[Conte] I got tickets to sit
at the finish line of the 100 meters.
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It was insane.
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[commentator] Set.
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Away. Pretty good start for Jones.
She's in the winning position.
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Early startup, pulling away slowly.
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We were shooting
for the... for the top of the mountain.
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[commentator] Jones going hard.
Lawrence has had a good first 50.
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Jones clearly in front.
Look at the margin.
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She's straining them.
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[Conte] I knew she would win,
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but I didn't think
she'd blow everybody away Flo-Jo style
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and win by four meters.
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[commentator]
She absolutely annihilated them.
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[Conte] Marion ended up winning
five medals at the Olympics in Sydney.
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It felt great to just be
a part of her success.
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- We're done. We're done.
- We're done.
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[Michael Schmidt] I think the... the thing
about the BALCO investigation
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is that it brings you behind the scenes
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into largely criminal activity
that was done in secret.
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And it's... it's exposing
what these athletes were willing to do
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to try and succeed.
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[commentator] That one's high.
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Deep right field, gone!
Home run, Barry Bonds.
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[audience cheering]
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[Schmidt] Steroids were banned
in baseball at the time,
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but there was no testing for them,
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and, in the late '90s
into the early 2000s,
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it's just like an explosion in home runs.
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[commentator] Canseco looks like
the sort of a comic book hero: Huge.
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Wow, did he crush that one?
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Then in 1998, there was this chase
to break the single-season home run record
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between two great sluggers, Mark McGwire...
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[commentator] Number 45 for McGwire.
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[Schmidt]...and Sammy Sosa.
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[commentator] One for two
and he sends a rocket. Number 48.
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And it completely captivated the country.
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[commentator 1] Sixty!
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[commentator 2] Can you say "66"?
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[commentator speaking indistinctly]
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Number 70! How much more can
you give us than that? Number 70...
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[Schmidt] Bonds saw
what Sosa and McGwire had done.
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At that point in Bonds' career,
he was already a Hall of Famer.
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He basically said to himself,
"I know I'm better than these guys."
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[man] Whoo!
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[Schmidt] "There's no reason
I shouldn't be performing at that level."
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But he was at an age
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when most players' careers
are on the downtick,
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when they retire from the game.
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And... And I'm trying to think of,
what next level can I get to?
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What... What can keep me motivated
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to do the things that I've been doing
day in and day out?
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[Conte] Greg Anderson, Barry's trainer,
brought him to... to BALCO.
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You know,
he asked if... if we could work with Barry
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and test his blood and see what
nutritional elements that he may need.
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And then after providing Barry
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with a number of different
legal nutritional supplements.
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I've lost more championships
in my life more than ever, ever.
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I mean, I almost get numb at times.
It just eats me up so bad.
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[Conte] In a year's time there,
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Barry put on, like,
20 pounds in an off-season.
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My recollection is he weighed 208,
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and then the following season
he weighed 228.
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And so we provided all sorts
of nutritional supplements,
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but nothing beyond that.
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[producer] I think people assume you're
his doctor giving steroids all the time.
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Not true. He does have a personal doctor,
who I met, but...
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[chuckles]...it's not me.
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I not only didn't give him
The Clear or The Cream
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or any other anabolic steroids,
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but I've never even discussed steroids
with him, not a word ever.
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In my opinion,
the entire investigation was...
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Had everything to do with Barry Bonds.
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He was the target.
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[Novitzky] My name is Jeff Novitzky.
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I was lead investigator
on the BALCO Laboratories investigation,
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one of the highest-profile
performance-enhancing drug investigations
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of all time.
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And I carry an immense,
immense love for sport.
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Basketball, I wanted to go
to the NBA until,
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maybe mid-part of college
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where you realize
that's probably not in the cards.
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And after college, came across an entry
from IRS criminal investigation division,
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and I'll never forget this, their motto
was "Be an accountant with a gun."
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And I thought, "All right,
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that's something
I could be interested in."
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I remember sitting in a class
and having a senior agent come in saying,
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"Make cases out of things
that you just see around you."
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"You don't need to wait
for an official referral
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from Washington, D.C."
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"If you see this really nice Ferrari
going down the street,
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run their plate and see if that person
would be making that kind of money."
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"If they don't, then maybe
you should look further into that."
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And I started to hear
in the '90s about BALCO Laboratories,
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which, as the crow flies, is probably
less than a mile from where I lived.
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And that, despite them claiming
that they were a blood testing laboratory,
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what they were really doing is providing
athletes with performance-enhancing drugs.
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One of the first things I did was query
the currency transaction database,
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and saw that Victor Conte
and BALCO Laboratories
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were withdrawing hundreds
of thousands of dollars in currency
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for a purported blood testing laboratory.
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That, by itself, appeared suspicious
and didn't seem right.
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Go on to some
of the online message boards,
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and Victor Conte talks very openly
about steroids
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and his knowledge of what drugs do what,
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about how much they cost,
about every athlete that he's worked with,
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and when I saw these athletes
that were going to BALCO,
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including Barry Bonds,
I thought to myself,
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"This could potentially get more attention
than any investigation before it,
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so we probably need to kind of expand
and see who else is involved."
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My first time seeing Victor was in Sydney,
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and we partied every single day.
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Every single day.
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[chuckles]
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[Conte] At that time,
he was ranked number eight in the world.
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[commentator] Men's 4 by 100 underway,
and here's the handoff to Tim Montgomery
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and the US has the lead...
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[Conte] He was one of the top guys.
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I decided it was time
to take it to another level,
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and help him break the world record.
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[Montgomery] At that time, the record
was 9.79, held by Maurice Greene.
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I was in that race,
1999, when he broke it in Greece.
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[commentator] Nine-seven-nine.
Does that ring a bell?
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As just mentioned, Ben Johnson
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had that very same time
at the '88 Olympics in Seoul,
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only to be stripped of the gold medal
after testing positive.
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[Montgomery] Whoever broke
the world record in the 100 meters,
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you were the fastest human ever.
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It's like a unicorn.
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I told Maurice, "It's yours for now,
but I'll be back to get it."
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I had already run down
nine-nine-two in 1997. Clean.
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[commentator] ...at the finish line...
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Once Victor understood
that I had been clean,
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he said,
"You're gonna break the world record."
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I told Victor Conte,
"I don't care if I die."
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"I want to see what it feels like to be
the greatest at any cost possible."
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It's almost like
selling your soul to the devil.
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And that's when I made that decision
to help Tim Montgomery
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to become the world's fastest human,
and... and I took it as a challenge.
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And we were gonna call it
Project World Record.
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[man] Set.
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[intriguing jazz music playing]
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[Montgomery] When we got back,
we were going to put together the plan.
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What do the program needs to look like
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in order to get nine-nine-two
to nine-seven-five?
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So you can talk about stuff,
but can you implement and achieve it?
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That's a whole 'nother...
That separates the men from the boys.
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I immediately reached out
to Charlie Francis,
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who was Ben Johnson's coach
and he lived in Toronto,
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and then I reached out to Milos Sarcev.
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They call him Milos the Mind
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because he's a very smart guy.
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In terms of the weight training program,
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Trevor Graham really was kind of
the frontman as a coach.
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[Montgomery] And then Victor Conte,
you're behind the pharmacology.
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[Conte] Taking growth hormones,
taking insulin, EPO, taking The Clear,
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and we created a... a calendar.
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[Montgomery] So when you on steroids,
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you have to have a plan
that goes with the medication.
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It was thrilling.
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[Conte] You know,
more does not mean better.
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This is how you optimize the drugs.
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He had a system.
I got me a real connect. A real doctor.
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Until I found out Victor wasn't a doctor.
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[Conte] A lot of people
mistakenly call me doctor.
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I don't know why, 'cause I... I guess
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because I'm interpreting
blood test results and I'm giving them
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the type of information that a doctor
would give them, I guess.
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Most people know me as a bass player.
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I played with many groups that had albums.
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Uh, the most famous
would be Tower of Power.
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["What is Hip" by Tower of Power playing]
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♪ The passing years would show
You into a hip trip ♪
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But I had three daughters.
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I was on the road ten months a year,
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and I'd come back
and they'd be this much taller.
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Hi, camera.
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- [Conte] Well, how are you?
- How are you?
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[Conte] I want you to tell me
what your name is.
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What's your name?
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[Conte] No, you tell me what's your name.
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- My name is Veronica.
- [Conte] Where do you live at?
467
00:26:58,241 --> 00:27:00,327
We... I live at my house.
468
00:27:00,410 --> 00:27:04,414
My youngest memory, there were always
athletes around, and oftentimes,
469
00:27:04,497 --> 00:27:07,292
the people we were going to support
were making big achievements
470
00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:08,918
and so it was exciting.
471
00:27:09,002 --> 00:27:13,298
[Conte] Could you tell Daddy what the name
of the place is that he works at?
472
00:27:13,381 --> 00:27:15,634
- Yeah.
- [Conte] What's the name?
473
00:27:15,717 --> 00:27:17,636
It's BALCO.
474
00:27:17,719 --> 00:27:20,722
[Conte] BALCO? What is...
What does BALCO do?
475
00:27:21,389 --> 00:27:23,350
You working.
476
00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:26,061
[Conte] I know, but what do I do there?
What kind of work?
477
00:27:26,144 --> 00:27:30,649
So I would say in my teenage years was
when I really knew, "Okay, this is..."
478
00:27:30,732 --> 00:27:32,317
"My dad's involved in the dark side."
479
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,780
And he was just open and honest with me
about what was going on.
480
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,200
At the time,
I knew that he was kind of the mastermind
481
00:27:40,283 --> 00:27:42,786
behind this Project World Record effort.
482
00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:52,629
[indistinct chatter]
483
00:27:52,712 --> 00:27:54,506
[Conte] Oh, this is Modesto Relays.
484
00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:57,509
This is May of 2001.
485
00:27:58,176 --> 00:28:00,053
[commentator] Tim Montgomery in two...
486
00:28:00,136 --> 00:28:03,682
That was the first race
where he won in a world-leading time.
487
00:28:03,765 --> 00:28:05,475
Tim just destroyed it.
488
00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:08,937
[Veronica] Tim won. Tim won!
489
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:10,939
- [man] He did?
- [Veronica] Tim won!
490
00:28:11,022 --> 00:28:12,667
- Oh my God!
- [man] They're shaking hands.
491
00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:15,777
[Veronica] They're shaking hands, so cute.
I love this!
492
00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:18,571
This is the most exciting thing
I've ever experienced.
493
00:28:19,072 --> 00:28:22,075
[Conte] On the back of his shirt,
it says "Project World Record."
494
00:28:22,659 --> 00:28:23,910
We were there announcing
495
00:28:23,993 --> 00:28:26,204
that we were going
to break the world record.
496
00:28:26,746 --> 00:28:31,334
I ran nine-nine-six.
We knew from then it was no stopping.
497
00:28:31,418 --> 00:28:33,002
[propulsive music playing]
498
00:28:33,086 --> 00:28:35,380
[Conte] The transformation was incredible.
499
00:28:35,463 --> 00:28:37,143
[Montgomery]
Starting Project World Record,
500
00:28:37,173 --> 00:28:39,718
I weighed 148 pounds.
501
00:28:40,885 --> 00:28:42,971
[Conte] We bulked him up to 176.
502
00:28:43,054 --> 00:28:46,307
We put, like, 28 pounds of muscle on him
in a short period of time.
503
00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:51,521
Greg Anderson was coming to BALCO
504
00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:54,566
to help Tim Montgomery
with all the weight training,
505
00:28:54,649 --> 00:28:59,028
and in eight weeks his bench press
went from 265 to 345.
506
00:28:59,112 --> 00:29:00,989
Ten pounds a week increase.
507
00:29:01,072 --> 00:29:04,617
He looked like an NFL linebacker,
and previously they called him Tiny Tim.
508
00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:08,288
[Montgomery] It was incredible.
Felt like Conan the Barbarian.
509
00:29:08,371 --> 00:29:09,247
[clang]
510
00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:12,000
[Montgomery] Me and Victor,
we were together all day.
511
00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:15,670
Ate breakfast together, lunch together,
dinner together, we partied together.
512
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,964
It became like we're a team.
513
00:29:18,047 --> 00:29:19,299
My habits changed.
514
00:29:19,382 --> 00:29:20,967
I had a plan,
515
00:29:21,050 --> 00:29:24,429
how much to take, when to take them,
and what to take with them.
516
00:29:25,096 --> 00:29:26,765
You know, he became kind of muscle-bound.
517
00:29:26,848 --> 00:29:30,059
You could see he was running like this
because his lats were so big.
518
00:29:30,143 --> 00:29:32,729
Then we cut him back to about 160.
519
00:29:32,812 --> 00:29:34,272
Victor Conte was honcho.
520
00:29:35,023 --> 00:29:37,400
And then from there, I went to Oslo.
521
00:29:37,484 --> 00:29:39,587
[commentator] On the right,
here comes Tim Montgomery.
522
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:42,363
It's Montgomery in lane four
with a late surge.
523
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:45,658
Unofficially 9.84 seconds.
524
00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:47,076
[Montgomery] And I felt so good.
525
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,578
Oh, I could beat everybody.
526
00:29:48,661 --> 00:29:51,247
[commentator] Boy, the difference
has been pronounced this year.
527
00:29:51,331 --> 00:29:53,917
Only Maurice Greene has ever run faster.
528
00:29:54,876 --> 00:29:59,839
This is the transformation that happens.
It... It makes you Superman.
529
00:29:59,923 --> 00:30:02,342
[reporter] Montgomery makes history,
but more importantly,
530
00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:04,552
he sends shock waves
through the sprint world.
531
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,472
What has Trevor been teaching you?
Trevor Graham, your coach now.
532
00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:09,224
To stay patient and wait for it to come.
533
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:12,068
Don't try to break the world record,
let the world record come to you.
534
00:30:15,146 --> 00:30:16,147
[man] Go!
535
00:30:16,231 --> 00:30:18,942
We were like,
"Next race we break the world record."
536
00:30:19,025 --> 00:30:21,611
"Next race. Next race up,
we break the world record."
537
00:30:22,111 --> 00:30:25,865
You're on the edge
of greatness and disaster.
538
00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:29,369
That feeling becomes addictive.
539
00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:32,789
[pouring]
540
00:30:34,749 --> 00:30:36,376
[ding]
541
00:30:37,585 --> 00:30:40,421
[Novitzky] For me, this thing
that I love so much, sport,
542
00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:45,426
were being sullied by the presence
of PEDs and breaking rules,
543
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:48,721
and the unethical decisions of,
"Well, I'm gonna break this rule
544
00:30:48,805 --> 00:30:51,432
because it's gonna get me
something good on the other end."
545
00:30:52,308 --> 00:30:54,686
And so this case consumed my life.
546
00:30:54,769 --> 00:30:56,813
It literally consumed my life, and...
547
00:30:56,896 --> 00:30:58,857
From the time I woke up in the morning,
548
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,861
to the time that I went to sleep at night,
that's literally all I was thinking of.
549
00:31:02,944 --> 00:31:04,988
- [whirring]
- [mellow jazz music playing]
550
00:31:12,745 --> 00:31:16,624
[producer] What gave you the idea
to go through his trash to begin with?
551
00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:20,461
Yeah, I think that was a technique
in the first couple of years of my career,
552
00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:23,715
and a lot of agents didn't like to do it,
'cause it wasn't fun.
553
00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:27,051
[jazz music continues]
554
00:31:30,263 --> 00:31:35,435
However, I don't think trash examinations
have ever gotten as much notoriety...
555
00:31:35,518 --> 00:31:37,118
[chuckling]...and coverage as mine did.
556
00:31:40,648 --> 00:31:42,942
So BALCO was
a lower-risk trash collection.
557
00:31:43,026 --> 00:31:46,029
They put their trash out
every Monday night.
558
00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:48,698
And I'd go, you know, 11:00, midnight,
559
00:31:48,781 --> 00:31:51,242
got in and out of there
as fast as possible.
560
00:31:57,457 --> 00:32:01,294
This is just various stuff
that was unsealed during the BALCO trial.
561
00:32:01,878 --> 00:32:04,505
This is where the trash
was placed every night.
562
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:07,050
Was right about here,
where in the mornings,
563
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:09,385
the dump... you know,
the trashman would come collect it,
564
00:32:09,469 --> 00:32:12,388
but he'd come here and it'd be empty
'cause I took it the night before.
565
00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:19,646
I'd usually drive it to a dumpster
that was well-lit, kind of in the area,
566
00:32:19,729 --> 00:32:23,775
so that I could discard the smelly stuff,
food items, that I didn't want.
567
00:32:26,027 --> 00:32:29,072
I remember bringing stuff home
the first night
568
00:32:29,155 --> 00:32:34,035
and I started finding these, uh,
medications, used like, torn-up wrappers.
569
00:32:34,118 --> 00:32:37,664
And I'm like, "Hey, am I... am I right
in seeing what I'm seeing right here?"
570
00:32:37,747 --> 00:32:40,458
[Catlin] He needed to know
what the drugs were that he was finding,
571
00:32:40,541 --> 00:32:42,085
and so he called our lab.
572
00:32:42,168 --> 00:32:45,004
[chuckling] The lab folks
were suspicious, frankly.
573
00:32:45,088 --> 00:32:48,716
They were just... You know, it was some
random person playing an IRS agent.
574
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:53,096
[Novitzky] Basically came out
and told him what I was doing, um,
575
00:32:53,179 --> 00:32:54,514
and what I was finding.
576
00:32:55,264 --> 00:32:58,434
[chuckling] And realized
that Jeff really was an IRS agent.
577
00:32:59,018 --> 00:33:01,854
[Novitzky] We started putting
some pieces of the puzzle together.
578
00:33:02,438 --> 00:33:05,942
So this was the first night I did,
and this was human growth hormone,
579
00:33:06,025 --> 00:33:09,320
a torn-up box, the box of testosterone.
580
00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:13,366
Here's the note
from a world champion shot putter.
581
00:33:13,449 --> 00:33:17,078
"Here's a check for the next cycle.
I need it by the end of the week."
582
00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:18,161
"Thanks. Kevin."
583
00:33:18,746 --> 00:33:22,625
He was just careless and haphazard
in what trash he threw away
584
00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:25,461
as anyone I've ever run across
in my law enforcement career.
585
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:31,551
[tense music builds]
586
00:33:31,634 --> 00:33:33,034
[commentator 1] Top of the wrist...
587
00:33:33,094 --> 00:33:36,889
[commentator 2] Here's a long home run
by Bonds, number 39.
588
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:38,766
It sails over the fence.
589
00:33:39,642 --> 00:33:44,022
This is the hottest man
in the history of baseball, home run-wise,
590
00:33:44,105 --> 00:33:47,025
at this point
in any season over 100 years.
591
00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:53,823
In 2001, Barry was going
for the 70 home run... The season record.
592
00:33:53,906 --> 00:33:56,576
It was very exciting
for me to... to know him
593
00:33:56,659 --> 00:33:58,244
and to be a fan of his
594
00:33:58,327 --> 00:34:01,581
and doing my best to help him
in any way that I could.
595
00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:03,916
[commentator] Number 43
on the year for Bonds.
596
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,544
[Schmidt] So you've had this guy
with a Hall of Fame career,
597
00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:08,087
he's on the downslide,
598
00:34:08,671 --> 00:34:12,675
and all of a sudden
he begins performing at a level
599
00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:14,802
that... that even Babe Ruth couldn't.
600
00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:17,388
[commentator] Number 45 for Bonds.
601
00:34:17,472 --> 00:34:21,017
I've never seen anything like this
in my life besides Mark McGwire,
602
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:21,976
and Sammy Sosa...
603
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:25,229
[reporter] Forty-nine homers faster
than any major-leaguer in history.
604
00:34:25,313 --> 00:34:27,523
I can't explain it.
If I knew what I was doing
605
00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:29,442
I would've done this a long time ago.
606
00:34:29,525 --> 00:34:31,527
[commentator] Fifty for Barry Bonds.
607
00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:35,948
[Novitzky] I think it was almost genius
that his scheme primarily was,
608
00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:38,451
"Barry Bonds, I'm going
to give you these drugs."
609
00:34:38,534 --> 00:34:41,120
"Don't pay me checks, money orders, wire."
610
00:34:41,204 --> 00:34:44,874
"Instead, you're going to promote
my SNAC line of supplements."
611
00:34:44,957 --> 00:34:49,629
The acronym stands for Scientific
Nutrition for Advanced Conditioning.
612
00:34:49,712 --> 00:34:52,715
The AM formula is called Vitalize.
613
00:34:52,799 --> 00:34:56,052
The PM formula is called ZMA.
614
00:34:56,135 --> 00:35:00,139
Tell the world that this is the reason why
you're approaching the home run record.
615
00:35:00,223 --> 00:35:02,475
[commentator] It is outta here!
616
00:35:02,558 --> 00:35:06,062
[Conte] Would you like to vitalize
your mind and vitalize your body?
617
00:35:06,145 --> 00:35:09,398
Then it's time to get
vitalized with the SNAC system.
618
00:35:09,482 --> 00:35:12,360
[rock music playing]
619
00:35:14,195 --> 00:35:17,740
[Conte] ZMA, it blew up
to the point where, in 2000,
620
00:35:18,366 --> 00:35:21,410
we had four different brands of ZMA
621
00:35:21,494 --> 00:35:25,915
in all 9,000 GNC stores nationwide.
622
00:35:26,415 --> 00:35:30,128
So you'd walk around any mall
and see ZMA in the window.
623
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,713
This is Mr. Barry Bonds.
624
00:35:33,256 --> 00:35:35,133
This is a photo shoot that he did
625
00:35:35,216 --> 00:35:38,094
and they had a capture of him
on the front cover.
626
00:35:38,177 --> 00:35:41,264
[Novitzky] "And I want you to go out
and talk to Muscle and Fitness
627
00:35:41,347 --> 00:35:43,975
about how great my supplement line is."
628
00:35:44,058 --> 00:35:46,978
"Say, 'Liquid ZMA
helped me get five medals
629
00:35:47,061 --> 00:35:50,356
at the Sydney Olympics and break
these home run records.'"
630
00:35:51,023 --> 00:35:53,359
And, I mean,
that paid off a tremendous amount.
631
00:35:53,442 --> 00:35:56,445
I'm sure hundreds of thousands,
if not millions, in sales.
632
00:35:57,363 --> 00:35:58,823
[commentator] Here's the pitch.
633
00:35:58,906 --> 00:36:02,034
Bonds hits one hard to right field.
634
00:36:02,118 --> 00:36:03,286
Outta here!
635
00:36:03,953 --> 00:36:09,542
And he joins Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa,
Babe Ruth and Roger Maris,
636
00:36:09,625 --> 00:36:14,881
the only players to hit 60
or more home runs in a season.
637
00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:15,798
[Conte] Oh.
638
00:36:15,882 --> 00:36:20,303
This is a... This is a room
where we dress up all the athletes.
639
00:36:20,386 --> 00:36:23,556
[chuckling] As you can see,
we got lots of different gear here.
640
00:36:25,308 --> 00:36:27,143
So, branding is how I win.
641
00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:31,689
[Montgomery] We were thinking that,
okay, we promote the ZMA,
642
00:36:31,772 --> 00:36:36,277
no one would find out
about what's behind the scene of the ZMA.
643
00:36:36,777 --> 00:36:38,613
He has the top athletes.
644
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:43,367
It's like, when you're doing a crime,
645
00:36:43,451 --> 00:36:47,288
you think you're the smartest person
that's committing the crime.
646
00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:51,751
Then you look back and say, "That was
the dumbest thing I ever thought of."
647
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,215
[commentator 1] The men's 100-meter dash
presented by Pontiac Grand Prix.
648
00:36:57,298 --> 00:37:00,635
[commentator 2] And there's a man who
I think is running very well this year.
649
00:37:00,718 --> 00:37:03,198
Tim Montgomery, I think,
is the favorite going into this final.
650
00:37:03,262 --> 00:37:04,302
[commentator 1] Has to be.
651
00:37:05,139 --> 00:37:09,018
Back in the finals
of the men's 100 meters at US trials,
652
00:37:09,101 --> 00:37:14,315
Nike was going to give me $50,000
to wear their clothes in the finals.
653
00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,567
[Conte] Tim wore the ZMA logo
654
00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:18,903
and we had two or three
different outfits made
655
00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:23,157
that were one piece that had ZMA on 'em,
and he wore them in many races.
656
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:27,161
We already had an agreement
that was made that he would wear it,
657
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:30,706
and then at the last minute
there was some mention that,
658
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:32,792
"Oh, Nike wants me to wear their stuff."
659
00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:34,502
And Victor was like,
660
00:37:35,086 --> 00:37:37,630
"Who you going to be loyal to,
me or them?"
661
00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:40,341
So I'm like, "It's 50,000 dollar, homie."
662
00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:43,010
And he was like,
"My time is worth millions."
663
00:37:43,094 --> 00:37:45,137
Project team leader's the boss,
664
00:37:45,221 --> 00:37:48,224
the project team leader's the one
that finances the whole project.
665
00:37:48,724 --> 00:37:52,770
So I say, "Okay, you have been with me.
I'm going to wear ZMA in the finals."
666
00:37:54,146 --> 00:37:58,651
Not one person in track and field
has ever run with a vitamin company...
667
00:37:58,734 --> 00:38:00,319
[chuckling]...on their uniform
668
00:38:00,903 --> 00:38:03,072
in the history of track and field.
669
00:38:03,572 --> 00:38:07,076
[commentator] Here comes Montgomery,
and it is Tim Montgomery...
670
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:08,828
[Montgomery] I wore ZMA in the finals
671
00:38:08,911 --> 00:38:11,038
and then I signed with Nike
after the race,
672
00:38:11,122 --> 00:38:13,541
and Victor was upset
673
00:38:14,041 --> 00:38:16,127
because he wanted
to control that contract.
674
00:38:16,210 --> 00:38:20,172
He went from being a doctor
to now an agent.
675
00:38:20,673 --> 00:38:24,218
If I had a signed agreement with Victor,
you would have seen it on the screen.
676
00:38:25,177 --> 00:38:27,263
For going to the world championship,
677
00:38:27,346 --> 00:38:31,475
Victor had already hit me with...
He wanted 35 percent of my winnings.
678
00:38:32,476 --> 00:38:35,146
It was the percentage
that he wanted going forward.
679
00:38:35,646 --> 00:38:38,733
[Conte] That's... I never asked
for any percentage of his winnings ever.
680
00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:42,111
That's just a complete lie
and a fabrication by... by Tim.
681
00:38:42,194 --> 00:38:43,404
He was committed to me.
682
00:38:43,487 --> 00:38:46,699
I brought him to the dance,
now he's gonna dance with somebody else?
683
00:38:46,782 --> 00:38:48,784
You tell me, is that... is that fair?
684
00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:54,290
And so, at a certain point, I just said,
"Well, I can't continue with this guy."
685
00:38:54,373 --> 00:38:56,417
I terminated my relationship with him.
686
00:38:56,959 --> 00:39:02,798
[Montgomery] I'm trying to fathom him
saying he ended the relationship with me
687
00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:05,801
and I'm on the verge
of breaking the world record.
688
00:39:05,885 --> 00:39:07,470
Listen, I like Victor.
689
00:39:07,553 --> 00:39:08,846
Victor hurt me...
690
00:39:10,222 --> 00:39:12,475
when he wanted 35%,
691
00:39:12,558 --> 00:39:14,602
because I considered him as a friend.
692
00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:19,357
"Look into my eyes and tell me
you feel like I owe you something."
693
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,235
"What did you give me
for wearing ZMA at US trials?"
694
00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:26,697
So I was done with Victor, period.
695
00:39:26,781 --> 00:39:30,618
And Victor was like,
"Oh. Oh, you can't walk away."
696
00:39:30,701 --> 00:39:33,037
"I'm the show.
You ain't gonna run fast without me."
697
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,998
I said, "Watch me.
I can do this on my own."
698
00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:44,382
[engine running]
699
00:39:44,465 --> 00:39:45,466
[engine stops]
700
00:39:54,934 --> 00:39:55,768
[door closes]
701
00:39:55,851 --> 00:39:59,438
[suspenseful music playing]
702
00:40:02,775 --> 00:40:04,944
[Novitzky] One thing, I was finding, uh,
703
00:40:05,027 --> 00:40:08,489
dozens of discarded
one-use syringe wrappers
704
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:12,660
but no syringes, and thought,
"Man, if I had the syringe,
705
00:40:12,743 --> 00:40:16,122
maybe I could send the syringe
for DNA analysis."
706
00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,707
We were able to subpoena
the medical waste company,
707
00:40:18,791 --> 00:40:22,128
so when they picked up the medical waste,
the sharps box from BALCO
708
00:40:22,211 --> 00:40:25,339
on a weekly basis,
they'd bring it back to their hub,
709
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:28,384
set it aside for me
and I would go through that.
710
00:40:28,467 --> 00:40:30,177
Syringes we sent to laboratories.
711
00:40:30,261 --> 00:40:31,804
They were able to extract
712
00:40:31,887 --> 00:40:35,307
what the substances were
being, uh, injected.
713
00:40:36,016 --> 00:40:39,186
We were keeping track
of what mail was being delivered.
714
00:40:39,854 --> 00:40:43,691
They will give you where the mail's
coming from and who it's addressed to.
715
00:40:44,775 --> 00:40:47,653
And even found
an email from Patrick Arnold,
716
00:40:47,736 --> 00:40:52,450
where he's chronicling sending
Victor Conte the designer steroid.
717
00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:55,327
Financial ledgers
showing payments from the athletes,
718
00:40:55,995 --> 00:41:00,207
invoices for a substance
called epitestosterone.
719
00:41:00,708 --> 00:41:02,084
When you use The Clear,
720
00:41:02,168 --> 00:41:05,629
it would throw your natural hormone
imbalance completely out of whack,
721
00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:08,382
and that was something
that anti-doping was looking at.
722
00:41:08,466 --> 00:41:12,845
They were looking at something called
the testosterone to epitestosterone ratio.
723
00:41:12,928 --> 00:41:17,766
In sport, there's a four to one ratio
that we look for of T to E.
724
00:41:17,850 --> 00:41:22,813
If it's above four to one, that's a sign
that somebody's doping with testosterone.
725
00:41:25,357 --> 00:41:28,777
[Novitzky] Victor Conte
created the Cream to bring up that ratio
726
00:41:28,861 --> 00:41:31,655
so that the testosterone
would not get out of whack
727
00:41:31,739 --> 00:41:33,240
and show an abnormal ratio.
728
00:41:34,283 --> 00:41:39,330
Using these protocols
to try to avoid detection,
729
00:41:39,413 --> 00:41:41,165
it's absolutely a cat-and-mouse game.
730
00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,690
[commentator] Annihilated it,
but to the second baseman,
731
00:41:48,714 --> 00:41:51,383
who turned it into a double play
the first time he faced him.
732
00:41:51,467 --> 00:41:55,054
Bonds swings, and there it goes.
It's heading for McCovey Cove.
733
00:41:55,137 --> 00:41:56,305
It is gone!
734
00:41:56,388 --> 00:41:57,389
A home run.
735
00:41:58,182 --> 00:42:00,768
Number 69 for Bonds.
736
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:05,773
[Schmidt] I think the whole thing
starts to get a little curious.
737
00:42:05,856 --> 00:42:07,608
Like, what's really going on here?
738
00:42:07,691 --> 00:42:12,071
You know, baseball made a big deal
and the media made a big deal
739
00:42:12,154 --> 00:42:15,449
that players were, you know,
lifting weights, you know, in ways
740
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:17,409
that players hadn't in decades before,
741
00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:23,624
and they're eating better and, you know,
that's why they're hitting more home runs,
742
00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:26,919
but it didn't totally add up.
743
00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:30,089
[commentator] He's within
one of the record.
744
00:42:30,881 --> 00:42:33,217
You know,
I saw these numbers being put out
745
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,469
and knew what was going on
behind the scenes
746
00:42:35,553 --> 00:42:37,471
and knew that they weren't real.
747
00:42:37,555 --> 00:42:40,307
They were as a result
of using these... these substances.
748
00:42:40,391 --> 00:42:41,642
[audience cheering]
749
00:42:41,725 --> 00:42:43,143
[commentator] Bonds with a drive...
750
00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:46,689
Looks like number 70 for Barry Bonds.
751
00:42:46,772 --> 00:42:53,279
And it is! Tying the all-time record set
in 1998 by Mark McGwire.
752
00:42:53,362 --> 00:42:56,532
[Conte] Can somebody gain 20 pounds
in a year, you know,
753
00:42:56,615 --> 00:42:57,783
without using steroids?
754
00:42:57,866 --> 00:42:59,535
And the answer is, they can.
755
00:43:00,494 --> 00:43:03,205
You know, it depends upon
what sort of training you're doing,
756
00:43:03,289 --> 00:43:06,625
how many calories you're consuming,
and what those calories consist of.
757
00:43:06,709 --> 00:43:09,670
[producer] I thought you gave
Barry Bonds a lot of steroids?
758
00:43:09,753 --> 00:43:12,881
[chuckles] No, I did not
give Barry Bonds any steroids.
759
00:43:13,966 --> 00:43:17,136
[commentator] There's a high drive
deep into right center field,
760
00:43:17,219 --> 00:43:19,013
to the big part of the ballpark!
761
00:43:19,096 --> 00:43:20,889
Number 71!
762
00:43:20,973 --> 00:43:22,600
And what a shot!
763
00:43:22,683 --> 00:43:25,894
Over the 421-foot marker.
764
00:43:27,438 --> 00:43:30,232
[Conte] I mean, I was not with him
when he was training.
765
00:43:30,316 --> 00:43:33,444
Greg was pretty much administering
whatever supplements that he took.
766
00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:36,196
[producer] And had you given
The Clear to Greg?
767
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,281
Yes.
768
00:43:37,364 --> 00:43:40,242
This seems like a gotcha moment
that you want to go say,
769
00:43:40,326 --> 00:43:42,494
"I... I know Barry Bonds took steroids."
770
00:43:43,037 --> 00:43:45,706
That's not gonna happen
because I don't know that.
771
00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:48,000
Now, do you want me to guess?
772
00:43:48,083 --> 00:43:50,961
You want me to guess
if I think Barry Bonds took steroids?
773
00:43:51,045 --> 00:43:52,254
I think it's likely.
774
00:43:52,755 --> 00:43:54,715
Do I have any direct evidence?
775
00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:59,595
Only what I saw in terms of the discovery
that they gave me
776
00:43:59,678 --> 00:44:04,808
after the fact of some of the records
that Greg kept indicate that.
777
00:44:08,103 --> 00:44:09,229
[producer] Who's this one?
778
00:44:18,989 --> 00:44:22,785
It says "Bib," B-I-B.
I... I don't know who that is.
779
00:44:22,868 --> 00:44:25,329
And then it says "March"
and it says "April."
780
00:44:26,205 --> 00:44:27,706
Let me see what else is on there.
781
00:44:27,790 --> 00:44:29,541
[producer] Could that be
Barry Lamar Bonds?
782
00:44:30,709 --> 00:44:35,297
[Conte] Could... Could be B-L-B,
but this... this is not my handwriting.
783
00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:37,675
I hate to speculate or guess.
784
00:44:37,758 --> 00:44:40,052
You know,
this could have been Greg Anderson,
785
00:44:40,135 --> 00:44:41,637
I... I don't know that.
786
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,682
So, I... This is the first time
I've ever seen this.
787
00:44:54,274 --> 00:44:56,360
[Montgomery] In 2002,
I had no reason to panic,
788
00:44:56,443 --> 00:44:58,404
I had every reason to be happy.
789
00:44:58,904 --> 00:45:00,030
I'm training good.
790
00:45:00,698 --> 00:45:04,284
My times were even better
or the same, you know?
791
00:45:04,368 --> 00:45:09,373
[commentator] Tim Montgomery pulling away
from everybody with 9.91 seconds.
792
00:45:09,456 --> 00:45:11,417
He is getting more and more consistent.
793
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:14,837
[Conte] He continued on
working with Charlie Francis
794
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,089
with Trevor Graham as the frontman.
795
00:45:17,172 --> 00:45:20,509
And he had stockpiled enough of the drugs
that I'd given him.
796
00:45:20,592 --> 00:45:22,177
[Montgomery stammering] No.
797
00:45:22,261 --> 00:45:23,261
No.
798
00:45:23,303 --> 00:45:26,223
Not a person in this world
got a year's supply from Victor.
799
00:45:26,306 --> 00:45:28,976
He rations out everything week by week.
800
00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:32,646
I only had insulin
that was non-detectable,
801
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:34,440
and I had HGH.
802
00:45:34,523 --> 00:45:39,403
So, as the year kept going,
I kept getting faster.
803
00:45:40,279 --> 00:45:44,616
And so last track meet of the year,
we at Grand Prix finals.
804
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,369
[commentator] Running 9.91
earlier this year
805
00:45:47,453 --> 00:45:49,580
was Tim Montgomery in lane five.
806
00:45:49,663 --> 00:45:52,708
My mind was all over the place
coming out there.
807
00:45:52,791 --> 00:45:53,917
I just rolled with it.
808
00:45:54,001 --> 00:45:56,396
[commentator] ...Olympic gold medalist
and world record holder.
809
00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:59,923
You feel like you are ready for it
'cause you trained up to that moment
810
00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:01,425
to do something great.
811
00:46:02,301 --> 00:46:04,303
Greatness comes when greatness comes.
812
00:46:04,386 --> 00:46:06,388
- [commentator] ...is in lane four.
- [man] Set!
813
00:46:07,556 --> 00:46:08,766
[commentator] Very fast start.
814
00:46:08,849 --> 00:46:12,269
Out quickly is Tim Montgomery.
Chambers beside him now.
815
00:46:12,352 --> 00:46:14,146
That was the part of me dreaming
816
00:46:14,229 --> 00:46:16,940
that one day I'd be a part
of something that would be great.
817
00:46:17,024 --> 00:46:20,652
[commentator] Montgomery with slight lead,
Montgomery by two feet, three feet.
818
00:46:21,153 --> 00:46:25,991
Nine-point-seven-eight seconds,
a world record for Tim Montgomery.
819
00:46:26,074 --> 00:46:28,619
Sensational performance to win...
820
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:30,496
It was historic.
821
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:32,998
[commentator] Nine-seven-eight.
822
00:46:33,081 --> 00:46:35,709
They posted what his reaction
time out of the blocks was.
823
00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,378
You cannot be
faster than one-tenth of a second.
824
00:46:38,879 --> 00:46:42,925
And so everybody,
"You see what you just done?"
825
00:46:43,008 --> 00:46:44,092
And I look back...
826
00:46:45,552 --> 00:46:48,055
it is nine-seven-eight, and I'm like...
827
00:46:49,139 --> 00:46:50,557
And the world just go black.
828
00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:54,311
[commentator] And it is official,
a world record for Tim Montgomery.
829
00:46:54,394 --> 00:46:56,730
[Montgomery] When I took the lap
and I came back around
830
00:46:56,814 --> 00:47:01,902
and I took the picture by 9.78,
I said to myself, "You done it."
831
00:47:02,486 --> 00:47:03,654
"You done it."
832
00:47:04,238 --> 00:47:07,157
[Conte] You know,
it was kind of bittersweet because
833
00:47:07,241 --> 00:47:10,077
I knew that wouldn't have happened
without me and without Milos
834
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,247
and without Charlie,
and it... it was a brain trust.
835
00:47:13,330 --> 00:47:15,833
It took... He certainly
couldn't have done it on his own.
836
00:47:16,416 --> 00:47:18,252
That's my opinion anyway.
837
00:47:18,961 --> 00:47:21,064
[reporter] ...new world record holder,
Tim Montgomery.
838
00:47:21,088 --> 00:47:23,298
You just stepped right in and took it all.
839
00:47:23,382 --> 00:47:25,926
It's unbelievable.
That's all I can say. It's unbelievable.
840
00:47:26,009 --> 00:47:27,135
[laughter]
841
00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:29,721
[reporter] How you gonna top this
for next year, Tim?
842
00:47:29,805 --> 00:47:31,098
Nine-seventy-five.
843
00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:34,726
I thought the next chapter of my life
was going to be, oh,
844
00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:36,854
the greatest of all time.
845
00:47:38,188 --> 00:47:40,524
Ended up being a nightmare. [chuckles]
846
00:47:42,734 --> 00:47:48,240
This instrument over here
that we have is a triple quad LC-MS.
847
00:47:48,323 --> 00:47:51,785
What you're looking at here
can take apart a molecule,
848
00:47:51,869 --> 00:47:54,288
put it into multiple different peaks
849
00:47:54,371 --> 00:47:58,834
that can then be fingerprinted
and matched to a drug in question.
850
00:47:58,917 --> 00:48:03,130
So, this was what we used
to be able to break the code
851
00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:04,631
and break the back of BALCO.
852
00:48:05,757 --> 00:48:06,592
[click]
853
00:48:06,675 --> 00:48:10,721
[Catlin] The process
of actually decoding what The Clear was
854
00:48:10,804 --> 00:48:15,350
started when this mystery
syringe arrived at our laboratory.
855
00:48:15,434 --> 00:48:19,688
[Novitzky] Turned out that that steroid
was given to USADA by Trevor Graham,
856
00:48:19,771 --> 00:48:22,190
the track and field coach
who, at one time,
857
00:48:22,274 --> 00:48:25,903
was working with BALCO and Victor Conte
but had a falling out.
858
00:48:25,986 --> 00:48:30,574
It was not at all simple for us
to figure out what it was.
859
00:48:31,158 --> 00:48:33,577
We put it through our instruments,
860
00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:36,830
and when you put a substance
into a mass spectrometer,
861
00:48:36,914 --> 00:48:38,582
you come up with a bunch of peaks,
862
00:48:38,665 --> 00:48:42,044
and it's a matter of trying
to identify those peaks,
863
00:48:42,127 --> 00:48:46,006
and that was ultimately the work
that took many months for us to do.
864
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:49,217
[Novitzky] And they basically
reverse engineered it,
865
00:48:49,301 --> 00:48:52,095
and figured out what exactly
that they were looking at.
866
00:48:52,179 --> 00:48:54,973
So, unbeknownst to the athletes,
they had created a test for that
867
00:48:55,057 --> 00:48:58,185
when they thought they were using
a substance there was no test for yet.
868
00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:01,730
[tense music playing]
869
00:49:03,607 --> 00:49:07,736
[Conte] I knew for months and months
somebody's watching,
870
00:49:07,819 --> 00:49:12,824
and it started with the mailman saying,
871
00:49:12,908 --> 00:49:15,786
"Listen, there's law enforcement
of some kind
872
00:49:15,869 --> 00:49:17,871
that's copying all your mail every day."
873
00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:20,248
I need to start paying
attention a bit more,
874
00:49:20,332 --> 00:49:22,918
'cause it's... Big Brother's watching.
875
00:49:23,418 --> 00:49:26,421
[Novitzky] Near the tail end of that year,
where I was collecting trash,
876
00:49:26,505 --> 00:49:29,967
I had a dumpster that was well lit
that I was regularly going to,
877
00:49:30,050 --> 00:49:31,218
and they moved the dumpster.
878
00:49:32,302 --> 00:49:35,263
And so I located what I thought
was another secure one.
879
00:49:38,225 --> 00:49:40,625
[Conte] Started getting calls
from the owner of the building.
880
00:49:40,686 --> 00:49:44,815
And he said,
"Stop dumping your trash in our dumpster."
881
00:49:45,399 --> 00:49:47,401
I said, "Oh my God."
I went over there to see,
882
00:49:47,484 --> 00:49:50,529
and sure enough, our trash was
in his dumpster. I said, "Oh my God."
883
00:49:50,612 --> 00:49:54,241
They did it again. They did it again.
But the third time, this guy called,
884
00:49:54,324 --> 00:49:56,827
he said, "I'm calling the police, okay?"
885
00:49:58,662 --> 00:50:02,708
My dad called me and said, "Hey, have you
looked at the throwaway paper this week?"
886
00:50:02,791 --> 00:50:06,753
I'm like, "No, why?" He goes,
"Look at their police blotter section."
887
00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:11,508
Sure enough, there's a story about trash
from BALCO Laboratories illegally dumped.
888
00:50:11,591 --> 00:50:12,926
Scared me.
889
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:16,096
You know, I came very close,
I think, to... to being caught.
890
00:50:16,179 --> 00:50:19,474
So, the combination
of the trash being discovered,
891
00:50:19,558 --> 00:50:21,351
the mail cover being disclosed,
892
00:50:21,435 --> 00:50:26,273
we thought it's about time now, I think,
that we needed to go overt in this case.
893
00:50:28,442 --> 00:50:30,360
[tense music sting]
894
00:50:30,444 --> 00:50:33,405
[Cheryl Hurd] So, on September 3rd, 2003,
895
00:50:34,364 --> 00:50:39,870
my assignment desk
received this weird call,
896
00:50:39,953 --> 00:50:44,750
"Go to this location." "But what time?"
"Well, we don't know what time."
897
00:50:45,333 --> 00:50:47,669
"Just be there and wait."
898
00:50:49,379 --> 00:50:51,798
We started seeing cars coming in.
899
00:50:51,882 --> 00:50:53,008
Looks like agents.
900
00:50:53,091 --> 00:50:54,259
What kind of agents?
901
00:50:54,342 --> 00:50:55,469
The IRS?
902
00:50:57,012 --> 00:51:01,266
We didn't know who they were after,
how long it was going to last.
903
00:51:01,349 --> 00:51:04,478
They're going into this building.
I don't know what BALCO is.
904
00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:05,561
We were on edge.
905
00:51:05,604 --> 00:51:08,273
We... We didn't know
if... if there would be gunfire.
906
00:51:08,857 --> 00:51:10,442
It was... It was very intense.
907
00:51:11,568 --> 00:51:15,197
And right through that driveway,
and in here and here and here
908
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:16,406
and around the corner,
909
00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:21,995
that's where six or seven black
cars came in full of SWAT team agents
910
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,456
wearing flak jackets with rifles
911
00:51:24,539 --> 00:51:28,668
and... and a helicopter came
and was hovering right there.
912
00:51:28,752 --> 00:51:31,254
[reporter] Federal agents raided
a Burlingame building
913
00:51:31,338 --> 00:51:34,925
housing the Bay Area
Laboratory Co-operative, BALCO.
914
00:51:35,008 --> 00:51:38,845
All of a sudden, SWAT teams came in.
It was... It was like out of the movies.
915
00:51:38,929 --> 00:51:41,056
[Novitzky] There was
some controversy over,
916
00:51:41,139 --> 00:51:44,476
"Oh, they brought, you know,
20, 30 agents, they all had guns."
917
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:47,938
Well, we... we carry guns.
That's what we did,
918
00:51:48,021 --> 00:51:50,649
and we brought these guns
to every search warrant we did.
919
00:51:50,732 --> 00:51:53,026
Everything I saw,
they were secured to their side.
920
00:51:53,110 --> 00:51:55,278
They weren't drawn
as we were making entry.
921
00:51:56,196 --> 00:52:01,493
I looked out the window
and here comes ABC, NBC, CBS.
922
00:52:01,993 --> 00:52:04,746
Next thing you know,
these satellites are coming up.
923
00:52:04,830 --> 00:52:08,667
So somebody from Novitzky's team
must have called the news desk.
924
00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:10,544
[producer] Can you say
who your sources were?
925
00:52:10,627 --> 00:52:13,922
Of course I can't say who my sources are.
926
00:52:14,881 --> 00:52:16,758
I did not tip them off, no.
927
00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:20,679
Their neighbors are seeing
who the customers are of this business.
928
00:52:20,762 --> 00:52:24,015
They're seeing Barry Bonds
walk into this business frequently.
929
00:52:24,099 --> 00:52:27,144
People are going to start talking
and making some calls.
930
00:52:27,227 --> 00:52:30,689
[Hurd] A representative of BALCO
was escorted out of the building.
931
00:52:30,772 --> 00:52:32,691
[reporter] Victor Conte
is one of four people
932
00:52:32,774 --> 00:52:35,610
charged with distributing
the illegal substances.
933
00:52:35,694 --> 00:52:37,362
[Hurd] I'm looking and I'm saying,
934
00:52:38,238 --> 00:52:43,243
"Who is that guy with the ZMA hat on
kind of cocked to the side,
935
00:52:43,326 --> 00:52:45,078
sweating profusely?"
936
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:46,621
He must be the bad guy.
937
00:52:46,705 --> 00:52:50,625
That's my job as a reporter.
Find out who the bad guy is.
938
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,294
Federal officials wouldn't tell us
939
00:52:52,377 --> 00:52:55,505
what they found
inside BALCO Laboratories last week.
940
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:59,134
No one has been charged,
and no arrests have been made.
941
00:52:59,217 --> 00:53:00,927
[reporter] But US Olympic officials
942
00:53:01,011 --> 00:53:03,555
believe BALCO
could be involved in a conspiracy
943
00:53:03,638 --> 00:53:06,808
to beat drug tests
by designing a new steroid.
944
00:53:07,684 --> 00:53:09,769
[Veronica] It felt very over the top.
945
00:53:10,770 --> 00:53:13,690
Like, "Is there more to this story
than I know?" You know?
946
00:53:13,773 --> 00:53:16,943
Like, why is this being amplified so much?
947
00:53:17,986 --> 00:53:20,739
[tense music playing]
948
00:53:20,822 --> 00:53:23,700
[Novitzky] When we were conducting
the search warrant at BALCO,
949
00:53:23,783 --> 00:53:28,121
we found bankers boxes
with athletes' names on the box...
950
00:53:28,205 --> 00:53:30,040
On these folders within that box,
951
00:53:30,123 --> 00:53:33,668
and then within those folders
were doping calendars,
952
00:53:33,752 --> 00:53:36,504
financial ledgers, uh, Quest, uh,
953
00:53:36,588 --> 00:53:39,966
urine steroid tests,
some of them positive, um,
954
00:53:40,050 --> 00:53:43,470
and then multiple boxes
full of these drugs.
955
00:53:44,054 --> 00:53:47,349
It was a virtual pharmacy, uh,
that we found in the storage locker.
956
00:53:48,391 --> 00:53:51,478
And based on the amount of evidence
that I had collected,
957
00:53:51,561 --> 00:53:53,271
I knew what questions to ask.
958
00:53:53,355 --> 00:53:56,233
I'm reading here
from the memorandum of interview
959
00:53:56,316 --> 00:53:59,486
written by Jeff Novitzky,
September 3rd, 2003.
960
00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:03,198
And he had a list that he had made.
961
00:54:03,281 --> 00:54:06,326
It said, "Track and Field,"
"NFL," and "MLB,"
962
00:54:06,826 --> 00:54:08,912
and he had these names on the list.
963
00:54:09,788 --> 00:54:12,707
[Novitzky] We went down that list,
and absolutely, he said,
964
00:54:12,791 --> 00:54:16,127
definitively, "I've given these athletes
The Clear and The Cream."
965
00:54:16,211 --> 00:54:20,048
[Conte] He said, "Did you work
with these players or these athletes?"
966
00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:25,220
And I thought he meant blood testing,
nutritional supplements,
967
00:54:25,303 --> 00:54:27,305
developing individualized program.
968
00:54:27,931 --> 00:54:30,850
No mention about giving
any drugs to any of them.
969
00:54:30,934 --> 00:54:33,270
Yeah, that's not the truth.
970
00:54:33,353 --> 00:54:37,524
I mean, I was very explicit about that.
Think about it, I go in there and say,
971
00:54:37,607 --> 00:54:39,943
"Have you worked with these athletes?"
And not ask,
972
00:54:40,026 --> 00:54:42,570
"What does that work entail?
Have you given them drugs?"
973
00:54:42,654 --> 00:54:44,322
That's the whole reason I was there.
974
00:54:44,406 --> 00:54:48,118
Never gave Barry Bonds
The Cream or The Clear.
975
00:54:48,201 --> 00:54:50,578
He can't give you one shred of evidence
976
00:54:50,662 --> 00:54:54,416
linking me to having anything to do
with giving Barry Bonds steroids.
977
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,626
And if he's got it, where is it?
978
00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,380
[Novitzky] Barry Bonds was consistently
979
00:55:00,463 --> 00:55:03,049
providing urine
and blood samples to BALCO.
980
00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:06,636
I have those records and they showed
he was testing positive for things like
981
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,181
methenolone,
high-level anabolic steroid, nandrolone,
982
00:55:10,682 --> 00:55:16,021
so there is no doubt he knowingly used
performance-enhancing drugs
983
00:55:16,104 --> 00:55:18,815
and used a lot of them
for a several-year period
984
00:55:18,898 --> 00:55:22,652
that assisted him in achieving
these... these hallowed records in sports,
985
00:55:22,736 --> 00:55:23,737
without a doubt.
986
00:55:24,738 --> 00:55:27,449
[unsettling music playing]
987
00:55:33,830 --> 00:55:35,710
[reporter] This evening,
you've heard it before.
988
00:55:35,749 --> 00:55:37,459
Athletes and steroids.
989
00:55:37,542 --> 00:55:41,713
Dozens of the biggest names in sports
will be taking time off from competition
990
00:55:41,796 --> 00:55:47,135
to tell a grand jury what they know about
the maker of a so-called designer steroid.
991
00:55:48,261 --> 00:55:50,638
[Novitzky] After the raid,
we subpoenaed several dozen
992
00:55:50,722 --> 00:55:54,601
of these high-profile athletes
to the grand jury in San Francisco
993
00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:58,646
and told 'em, "Tell the truth in there,
this may be the last you hear from us."
994
00:55:58,730 --> 00:56:01,358
"You're certainly not going to be
a target of this investigation
995
00:56:01,941 --> 00:56:03,943
if you go in and tell the truth."
996
00:56:06,196 --> 00:56:09,240
I get, uh, a... subpoena,
997
00:56:10,325 --> 00:56:13,745
and they're sitting down saying that
they have ledgers and everything
998
00:56:13,828 --> 00:56:15,205
on us working with Victor.
999
00:56:16,081 --> 00:56:18,500
So I talked about my involvement.
1000
00:56:18,583 --> 00:56:20,335
I was taking The Clear.
1001
00:56:20,418 --> 00:56:23,463
HGH, I did use.
1002
00:56:24,047 --> 00:56:26,383
And I told them grand jurors
1003
00:56:26,466 --> 00:56:29,010
that you don't know
what you was getting for Victor.
1004
00:56:29,094 --> 00:56:30,887
Victor was a con artist.
1005
00:56:31,888 --> 00:56:32,889
He's not a doctor.
1006
00:56:35,975 --> 00:56:38,603
[Novitzky] These powerful
hormonal substances
1007
00:56:38,686 --> 00:56:42,440
really hadn't undergone
any clinical trials or human testing.
1008
00:56:42,524 --> 00:56:45,276
So they were literally
using these athletes as guinea pigs.
1009
00:56:47,654 --> 00:56:50,740
[Montgomery] Victor can read about
what HGH does to the body,
1010
00:56:50,824 --> 00:56:52,909
he can read about what EPO does,
1011
00:56:52,992 --> 00:56:57,580
and then he can use you to see
if he got the formula right.
1012
00:56:58,540 --> 00:57:00,542
[Novitzky] Even found an email
from Patrick Arnold:
1013
00:57:00,625 --> 00:57:02,377
"Hey, here's what I've created,
1014
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:06,840
but I don't quite know what the dosage is
so you have to experiment on that."
1015
00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:08,800
Some of the female athletes said,
1016
00:57:08,883 --> 00:57:11,803
they didn't get their menstrual cycles
for months if not years
1017
00:57:11,886 --> 00:57:13,346
while they were on this stuff.
1018
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:16,391
Victor Conte is your doctor
and your pharmacist.
1019
00:57:16,474 --> 00:57:18,059
That's very, very dangerous.
1020
00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:23,481
Oh, my God. So I've been doing
comprehensive blood testing on everybody,
1021
00:57:23,565 --> 00:57:25,733
making sure
there were no adverse health effects
1022
00:57:25,817 --> 00:57:27,527
and all the dosages were correct.
1023
00:57:27,610 --> 00:57:29,154
So the opposite was true.
1024
00:57:30,155 --> 00:57:34,367
You become numb
to what's right and what's wrong.
1025
00:57:36,244 --> 00:57:37,745
At the end of the day,
1026
00:57:38,455 --> 00:57:40,373
I wanted something so bad...
1027
00:57:42,083 --> 00:57:45,211
at any price... possible.
1028
00:57:47,672 --> 00:57:50,008
[John Ashcroft]
After an 18-month investigation,
1029
00:57:50,091 --> 00:57:54,137
a federal grand jury
in the Northern District of California
1030
00:57:54,220 --> 00:57:59,726
unsealed a 42-count indictment
charging four individuals
1031
00:57:59,809 --> 00:58:06,107
with distribution of illegal
anabolic steroids to dozens of athletes.
1032
00:58:06,191 --> 00:58:09,319
[reporter] Today's indictment
charges Bonds' trainer, Greg Anderson,
1033
00:58:09,402 --> 00:58:12,655
and this man, Victor Conte,
with running the operation,
1034
00:58:12,739 --> 00:58:17,202
money laundering and using code names
for drugs to cover up the scheme.
1035
00:58:17,285 --> 00:58:19,871
Illegal steroid use calls into question
1036
00:58:19,954 --> 00:58:22,957
not only the integrity
of the athletes who used them,
1037
00:58:23,041 --> 00:58:27,045
but also the integrity
of the sports that those athletes play.
1038
00:58:27,128 --> 00:58:31,716
Well, I think it's rather odd
that, uh, Mr. Ashcroft got involved.
1039
00:58:31,799 --> 00:58:34,928
I don't want to say it's political,
but it is political.
1040
00:58:35,011 --> 00:58:38,681
The use of performance-enhancing drugs
like steroids
1041
00:58:38,765 --> 00:58:41,684
in baseball, football and other sports,
1042
00:58:41,768 --> 00:58:44,687
is dangerous
and it sends the wrong message.
1043
00:58:44,771 --> 00:58:47,023
So tonight I call on team owners,
1044
00:58:47,106 --> 00:58:49,484
coaches and players to take the lead,
1045
00:58:49,567 --> 00:58:53,363
to get tough
and to get rid of steroids now.
1046
00:58:53,446 --> 00:58:57,408
It's like, uh,
going after a fly with a bazooka
1047
00:58:57,492 --> 00:58:59,786
when there are thousands
of other flies running around.
1048
00:58:59,869 --> 00:59:02,580
It's not even going
to make a dent in the problem.
1049
00:59:02,664 --> 00:59:04,415
[tense music playing]
1050
00:59:07,168 --> 00:59:08,878
[reporter] If convicted on all counts,
1051
00:59:08,962 --> 00:59:12,840
the defendants face
long prison terms and hefty fines.
1052
00:59:14,175 --> 00:59:17,679
I knew that they didn't have the evidence
that they claimed that they had.
1053
00:59:17,762 --> 00:59:21,766
Why do you think on the day
of the 42-count indictment
1054
00:59:21,849 --> 00:59:25,603
that I walked out
into a sea of reporters and did this?
1055
00:59:25,687 --> 00:59:27,063
That meant this.
1056
00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:39,534
[Veronica] At that point, there were times
he was in the news every day.
1057
00:59:39,617 --> 00:59:41,619
So every time there were court hearings,
1058
00:59:41,703 --> 00:59:45,123
there was a ton of media
really villainizing him.
1059
00:59:45,790 --> 00:59:49,043
Um, forty-two counts,
it seemed like a lot.
1060
00:59:50,086 --> 00:59:54,924
You know, I remember him grabbing my hand
to guide me through the media
1061
00:59:55,008 --> 00:59:57,385
and all the cameras
and everyone shouting, and...
1062
00:59:57,468 --> 00:59:59,012
it's intimidating.
1063
00:59:59,846 --> 01:00:04,225
The whole investigation, in my opinion,
was all about chasing headlines.
1064
01:00:04,309 --> 01:00:08,354
Novitzky was bragging
to the undercover agents, you know,
1065
01:00:08,438 --> 01:00:11,399
saying, "I'm going to be
the modern-day Eliot Ness."
1066
01:00:11,482 --> 01:00:14,777
"I'm going to bust Al Capone.
Movie deals, book deals."
1067
01:00:14,861 --> 01:00:19,407
Yeah, I probably said that because,
going back to my training,
1068
01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:22,285
you, as an agent,
need to find those investigations
1069
01:00:22,368 --> 01:00:24,329
that are going to get the most coverage.
1070
01:00:24,412 --> 01:00:28,207
And hopefully, other people out there
that are breaking a similar law
1071
01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:32,420
are gonna say, "I don't want to get
caught up in this, so I'm gonna back out."
1072
01:00:34,422 --> 01:00:38,259
I believe that Jeff Novitzky
was feeding information to the Chronicle.
1073
01:00:38,343 --> 01:00:40,303
Nope. Not whatsoever.
1074
01:00:40,386 --> 01:00:42,722
I think it was
his narcissistic personality
1075
01:00:42,805 --> 01:00:46,934
that, you know, Victor was like,
"No publicity is bad publicity."
1076
01:00:47,018 --> 01:00:50,855
Um, you know, I remember
the night he went on 20/20.
1077
01:00:51,356 --> 01:00:54,901
He was indicted,
but the case hasn't been resolved yet,
1078
01:00:54,984 --> 01:00:58,112
and we got a call
from his defense attorneys saying,
1079
01:00:58,196 --> 01:01:02,158
"I don't know what our guy's doing.
He's going on 20/20 tonight."
1080
01:01:02,241 --> 01:01:05,745
"An entire hour is dedicated
to everything he's been doing."
1081
01:01:06,245 --> 01:01:11,209
I knew that this was the most coveted
of all, you know, records and gold medals.
1082
01:01:11,292 --> 01:01:17,256
Um, so we kind of had a collective dream
and I was the mastermind, so to speak.
1083
01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:20,760
[Martin Bashir] You're designing,
in effect, a criminal conspiracy
1084
01:01:20,843 --> 01:01:22,679
to break the world record.
1085
01:01:24,347 --> 01:01:26,057
That's what it was, wasn't it?
1086
01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:31,646
Well, if you're asking if it included
illegal activity, the answer would be yes.
1087
01:01:32,146 --> 01:01:32,980
And sure enough,
1088
01:01:33,064 --> 01:01:36,651
he disclosed all of his criminal activity
on national television.
1089
01:01:36,734 --> 01:01:38,194
Nobody does that.
1090
01:01:38,277 --> 01:01:42,657
Are you saying Marion Jones
was a drugs cheat?
1091
01:01:42,740 --> 01:01:43,825
Without a doubt.
1092
01:01:43,908 --> 01:01:47,036
And that you saw her even inject herself?
1093
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,413
You saw that happen?
1094
01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:50,289
That's correct.
1095
01:01:50,873 --> 01:01:54,377
Victor Conte is delusional. [chuckles]
1096
01:01:54,460 --> 01:01:59,215
To start taking out athletes
on the system he was part of.
1097
01:02:02,385 --> 01:02:06,806
[Bashir] Did you fear there was
a moral problem when you realized
1098
01:02:06,889 --> 01:02:10,560
that if you wanted to compete
you had to cheat?
1099
01:02:11,060 --> 01:02:12,061
The answer is no.
1100
01:02:12,145 --> 01:02:15,273
If you've got the knowledge that
that's what everybody's doing,
1101
01:02:15,356 --> 01:02:19,026
and those are the real rules of the game,
then you're not cheating.
1102
01:02:25,158 --> 01:02:27,785
[Conte] I... I was called
a lot of very bad names.
1103
01:02:27,869 --> 01:02:31,622
Dr. Frankenstein,
the Saddam Hussein of sports.
1104
01:02:32,248 --> 01:02:37,712
But one of the most important things
you learn is that you need adversity.
1105
01:02:38,254 --> 01:02:39,088
You know?
1106
01:02:39,172 --> 01:02:42,133
If you want to build big muscles
you got to lift big weights.
1107
01:02:44,343 --> 01:02:47,138
[Ed Swanson]
Victor was in a difficult spot
1108
01:02:47,221 --> 01:02:48,556
when we got into the case.
1109
01:02:48,639 --> 01:02:52,101
Uh, he had done the 20/20 interview,
1110
01:02:52,185 --> 01:02:55,146
the case was on the boil
1111
01:02:55,229 --> 01:02:58,357
and it wasn't headed in the direction
that he wanted it to go.
1112
01:02:58,441 --> 01:03:02,320
Victor's previous counsel
had already filed a number of motions
1113
01:03:02,403 --> 01:03:05,239
to suppress evidence,
to suppress statements,
1114
01:03:05,323 --> 01:03:09,076
dealing with the agents
in a very confrontational manner,
1115
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,246
and Victor had to make a big decision,
1116
01:03:12,330 --> 01:03:15,166
whether or not
to try and resolve the case,
1117
01:03:15,249 --> 01:03:18,211
or whether to be embroiled
in this battle for the next year.
1118
01:03:18,294 --> 01:03:21,798
And Victor made the decision
to have us negotiate the case.
1119
01:03:22,381 --> 01:03:28,054
We thought this case involved warehouses
of steroids and millions of dollars,
1120
01:03:28,137 --> 01:03:30,389
because that's the way
the story was being told.
1121
01:03:30,473 --> 01:03:33,976
Once we started to look at it,
everything began to shrink
1122
01:03:34,060 --> 01:03:38,689
and the millions became hundreds
and the warehouse became a locker,
1123
01:03:38,773 --> 01:03:41,943
and the amount of drugs became something
you could fit in your hand.
1124
01:03:42,026 --> 01:03:46,864
Our technical term for the amount of drugs
in this case was "teensy."
1125
01:03:48,282 --> 01:03:51,327
Week after week,
we would sit down with the prosecutors
1126
01:03:51,410 --> 01:03:53,412
and would take another piece of the case,
1127
01:03:53,496 --> 01:03:57,875
and we would say, "You've charged this,
it's not illegal and here's why."
1128
01:03:57,959 --> 01:04:01,003
To their credit, they listened to us
and they pushed back,
1129
01:04:01,087 --> 01:04:03,422
and it was so much fun.
1130
01:04:03,506 --> 01:04:05,716
There's no question what he had done.
1131
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,344
He had provided athletes
with the substance.
1132
01:04:08,427 --> 01:04:10,263
The question was, was that illegal?
1133
01:04:11,138 --> 01:04:13,015
The Clear was not illegal,
1134
01:04:13,099 --> 01:04:15,852
and our position was
even The Cream was not illegal.
1135
01:04:15,935 --> 01:04:19,230
[McNamara] Which was a diluted
amount of steroid testosterone
1136
01:04:19,313 --> 01:04:21,357
in a lotion to be applied on the skin.
1137
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,693
And the law didn't apply to mixtures.
1138
01:04:24,861 --> 01:04:28,656
[McNamara] The amount of money
that Victor was transacting
1139
01:04:28,739 --> 01:04:30,950
amounted to less than a thousand dollars,
1140
01:04:31,033 --> 01:04:36,455
which is so below the power of what
federal prosecutions generally prosecute.
1141
01:04:36,539 --> 01:04:39,250
[Swanson] It was as thin as it gets.
1142
01:04:39,333 --> 01:04:42,503
There's never another case we've seen
where someone was charged
1143
01:04:42,587 --> 01:04:46,257
with drug distribution of an amount
that doesn't even register
1144
01:04:46,340 --> 01:04:47,842
in the sentencing guidelines,
1145
01:04:48,426 --> 01:04:50,261
but that was their case.
1146
01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:52,597
[reporter] Anything to say today, Victor?
1147
01:04:54,140 --> 01:04:55,308
Uh, afterwards.
1148
01:04:55,391 --> 01:04:57,602
[camera shutter clicking]
1149
01:04:57,685 --> 01:04:59,228
[Conte] I will never forget the day
1150
01:04:59,312 --> 01:05:02,690
that I picked up the front page
of the San Francisco Chronicle,
1151
01:05:02,773 --> 01:05:04,775
and the headline said,
1152
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:08,738
"40 of 42 BALCO charges dropped."
1153
01:05:08,821 --> 01:05:12,408
And the subtitle was,
"The wrist slap heard around the world."
1154
01:05:12,491 --> 01:05:15,091
- [reporters clamoring]
- [reporter] Mr. Conte, care to comment...
1155
01:05:15,161 --> 01:05:18,915
[Hurd] Victor Conte pleaded guilty
to two felony counts today.
1156
01:05:18,998 --> 01:05:23,085
One, conspiracy to distribute steroids,
the other, money laundering.
1157
01:05:23,169 --> 01:05:25,296
The Feds should be embarrassed.
1158
01:05:25,379 --> 01:05:27,506
It started with 42 counts,
1159
01:05:27,590 --> 01:05:30,635
Victor Conte will now plead guilty
to only two counts.
1160
01:05:30,718 --> 01:05:34,639
And we quote, "This deal
does not require Mr. Conte to assist
1161
01:05:34,722 --> 01:05:39,310
the prosecution of any other person
involved in the investigation."
1162
01:05:39,393 --> 01:05:42,154
- [woman] So the athletes walk.
- [man] There'll be no federal charges
1163
01:05:42,229 --> 01:05:44,941
and no criminal charges
against any athlete.
1164
01:05:45,441 --> 01:05:48,277
Victor Conte was sentenced
to six months in federal prison.
1165
01:05:48,361 --> 01:05:49,737
Typically, in federal prison,
1166
01:05:49,820 --> 01:05:52,448
with good behavior,
you do 85% of that time.
1167
01:05:52,531 --> 01:05:54,367
So he did a little over four months.
1168
01:05:57,787 --> 01:06:03,292
Here's some pictures that my dad sent me
from the, um, prison camp.
1169
01:06:03,376 --> 01:06:05,920
This is him and his cellmate.
His name was Evil.
1170
01:06:06,003 --> 01:06:10,049
He was a scare to my dad at first,
let me tell you, as you can imagine why.
1171
01:06:10,132 --> 01:06:11,926
Like, oh, I'm dead meat in this cell...
1172
01:06:12,009 --> 01:06:14,720
[laughs] You know, when he first met him,
but he had his back,
1173
01:06:14,804 --> 01:06:16,722
and they became good friends.
1174
01:06:16,806 --> 01:06:18,516
They're still friends to this day.
1175
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:23,020
I was happy to see
that he was making friends and really...
1176
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,400
You know, it was humbling.
Humbling experience for him, so...
1177
01:06:29,068 --> 01:06:31,362
[Conte] I took full responsibility,
1178
01:06:31,445 --> 01:06:34,323
did not cooperate
in any way, shape or form.
1179
01:06:34,407 --> 01:06:35,700
I did some wrongdoing,
1180
01:06:35,783 --> 01:06:38,411
I deserved to go
to prison camp just like I did.
1181
01:06:38,494 --> 01:06:40,037
I went and I served my time.
1182
01:06:42,748 --> 01:06:46,669
And, of course,
when I went through the... the front door,
1183
01:06:46,752 --> 01:06:48,838
they immediately grabbed me
1184
01:06:48,921 --> 01:06:51,549
and they put me through
the metal detector,
1185
01:06:51,632 --> 01:06:53,884
and it was, "Toes and nose
against the wall."
1186
01:06:53,968 --> 01:06:58,639
And here I am being handcuffed,
and I realized, "I belong to them now."
1187
01:07:00,725 --> 01:07:03,894
And I had mailed myself some magazines,
1188
01:07:03,978 --> 01:07:07,356
and I timed it so that it would get there
when I got there.
1189
01:07:10,693 --> 01:07:13,029
When they brought the mail that day,
1190
01:07:13,112 --> 01:07:17,408
they put my mail
through the food slot in the door.
1191
01:07:18,367 --> 01:07:21,370
In addition to the magazines
I'd sent myself
1192
01:07:22,455 --> 01:07:24,623
was this letter from my youngest daughter.
1193
01:07:24,707 --> 01:07:25,875
Where do you live at?
1194
01:07:25,958 --> 01:07:28,085
I live at my house.
1195
01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:30,337
[Conte] What's... Where's your house?
In what city?
1196
01:07:30,421 --> 01:07:33,632
[voice breaking] And there were pictures
of my kids, and, uh...
1197
01:07:33,716 --> 01:07:35,926
[emotional music playing]
1198
01:07:36,010 --> 01:07:38,054
Yeah, that's kind of when it all hit me.
1199
01:07:38,929 --> 01:07:40,139
[sniffles]
1200
01:07:40,222 --> 01:07:43,684
[voice breaks] I realized that
I'd completely lost control of my life.
1201
01:07:44,268 --> 01:07:45,603
I hadn't really
1202
01:07:46,771 --> 01:07:49,440
reflected upon, you know...
1203
01:07:52,068 --> 01:07:54,904
how serious the consequences were.
1204
01:07:54,987 --> 01:07:58,699
But I thought that,
"I'm a big boy, I'm a man."
1205
01:07:58,783 --> 01:08:01,619
"Whatever happens,
I'll be able to deal with it."
1206
01:08:02,578 --> 01:08:04,622
I was... Had been a horrible father.
1207
01:08:04,705 --> 01:08:08,167
I took... I took their sense of security
away from them.
1208
01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:11,253
And created a lot of uncertainty.
1209
01:08:12,254 --> 01:08:14,799
[Veronica] I think
success is addictive, uh,
1210
01:08:14,882 --> 01:08:17,635
praise and credit is addictive,
1211
01:08:17,718 --> 01:08:20,596
but I don't defend what my dad did.
1212
01:08:21,097 --> 01:08:24,517
I think it's clear
that he crossed some ethical lines.
1213
01:08:25,351 --> 01:08:26,644
And I wish he didn't.
1214
01:08:27,645 --> 01:08:29,814
[voice breaking] But I didn't realize
1215
01:08:30,648 --> 01:08:34,652
that this was the same effect
on all the athletes' families.
1216
01:08:36,028 --> 01:08:38,739
That they had to deal with their kids
coming home saying,
1217
01:08:38,823 --> 01:08:42,159
"Dad, at school
they're saying you used steroids."
1218
01:08:42,243 --> 01:08:43,744
"Did you use steroids?"
1219
01:08:45,121 --> 01:08:48,707
And kids don't understand,
you know, so it's, uh...
1220
01:08:48,791 --> 01:08:50,376
[trembling]
1221
01:08:52,628 --> 01:08:54,672
[Montgomery] Three of my kids
run track and field.
1222
01:08:55,548 --> 01:08:58,050
The second-oldest boy
has been training with me.
1223
01:08:59,051 --> 01:09:01,220
He's like,
"Dad, what steroids do for you?"
1224
01:09:02,054 --> 01:09:03,931
And I said, "Ruin your whole life."
1225
01:09:04,849 --> 01:09:06,267
Runners, take your mark.
1226
01:09:08,102 --> 01:09:09,311
Set.
1227
01:09:09,395 --> 01:09:14,650
I told him, "If you cross the finish line
and you were first and tested positive,
1228
01:09:14,733 --> 01:09:15,985
what did you gain?"
1229
01:09:22,575 --> 01:09:25,202
When you leave,
you wanna know that you did it right.
1230
01:09:29,623 --> 01:09:31,584
Sometimes you can over try.
1231
01:09:33,002 --> 01:09:35,713
You got to always feel like
you don't have a second chance.
1232
01:09:37,214 --> 01:09:38,757
Everything I did in the past,
1233
01:09:39,717 --> 01:09:41,177
all the wrongs I did,
1234
01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:43,804
well, my son said,
"Dad, I care nothing about that."
1235
01:09:44,847 --> 01:09:46,390
"I believe in you right now."
1236
01:09:48,684 --> 01:09:50,644
And so, as I think about it...
1237
01:09:52,938 --> 01:09:55,983
Victor Conte believed
in Project World Record the same way.
1238
01:09:57,276 --> 01:09:59,862
He believed in the dream.
1239
01:10:01,655 --> 01:10:04,700
I guess in some respects,
did we create a monster?
1240
01:10:04,783 --> 01:10:09,246
Uh, maybe a little, but, I mean, I think
most people who hear and see Victor Conte
1241
01:10:09,330 --> 01:10:11,582
realize him for who he is,
1242
01:10:11,665 --> 01:10:15,836
and that's, you know,
a used car, snake oil salesman guy,
1243
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:16,920
bullshit artist.
1244
01:10:17,546 --> 01:10:19,673
I'd like to dedicate my life
1245
01:10:19,757 --> 01:10:23,928
to helping to create a level playing field
for the young athletes of the future.
1246
01:10:24,511 --> 01:10:30,476
I'm, by far, most proud of my contribution
to the anti-doping movement,
1247
01:10:30,559 --> 01:10:33,479
and went and met with WADA,
the World Anti Doping Agency.
1248
01:10:33,562 --> 01:10:39,610
I reveal specifically how these athletes
are circumventing the anti-doping policies
1249
01:10:39,693 --> 01:10:41,320
and procedures in place.
1250
01:10:41,403 --> 01:10:44,865
What they're doing now is they're using
duck and dodge techniques.
1251
01:10:44,949 --> 01:10:47,534
Just take it like this
and put it under the tongue.
1252
01:10:47,618 --> 01:10:49,286
I think there's abuse going on.
1253
01:10:49,370 --> 01:10:51,747
I think there needs to be
a further investigation.
1254
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:55,292
- But how many guys are using it?
- My guess is about 50%.
1255
01:10:55,376 --> 01:10:57,628
[Rogan] Fifty of MMA athletes,
or professional athletes?
1256
01:10:57,711 --> 01:10:58,545
Yes, of MMA.
1257
01:10:58,629 --> 01:11:01,173
Now because you can't make
a living cheating anymore,
1258
01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:05,177
you want to flip the other side
and call people out, pointing fingers?
1259
01:11:05,261 --> 01:11:07,721
I can't believe anybody
even listens to this guy,
1260
01:11:07,805 --> 01:11:09,556
anybody even quotes this guy.
1261
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,935
Victor Conte is a two-faced piece of shit.
1262
01:11:13,018 --> 01:11:18,482
So Victor administrated the drugs,
then he gave the drug people the system
1263
01:11:18,565 --> 01:11:22,736
on how to catch you now
so that he can do something different.
1264
01:11:24,071 --> 01:11:27,032
And that's something
you can never take from a hustler,
1265
01:11:27,116 --> 01:11:28,325
the hustle.
1266
01:11:29,326 --> 01:11:32,663
[Conte] It just so happens
that the red-light district of sport,
1267
01:11:32,746 --> 01:11:35,249
which is boxing,
I was able to find a home there.
1268
01:11:35,332 --> 01:11:36,332
[grunts]
1269
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:38,210
- [bell rings]
- [grunts]
1270
01:11:38,294 --> 01:11:41,005
With Victor,
people will come to me and say,
1271
01:11:41,088 --> 01:11:45,551
"He's a cheater and he's going to try to
give you drugs or he is giving you drugs,"
1272
01:11:45,634 --> 01:11:48,679
and stuff like that,
but I never really paid attention to it.
1273
01:11:48,762 --> 01:11:51,348
Yeah, I would say that
it is performance-enhancing,
1274
01:11:51,432 --> 01:11:53,100
just without the drugs.
1275
01:11:53,183 --> 01:11:55,644
[chuckling] Victor's definitely
the mad scientist.
1276
01:11:56,228 --> 01:11:57,521
You're a beast.
1277
01:11:58,105 --> 01:12:00,357
When you're doing high oxygen here,
1278
01:12:00,983 --> 01:12:04,236
it increases
the production of lactic acid,
1279
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:09,533
that, in turn, triggers the production
of testosterone and growth hormone.
1280
01:12:09,616 --> 01:12:13,078
Your speed and your power are 10% greater.
1281
01:12:13,579 --> 01:12:16,790
There's a lot of things that work
that are legal.
1282
01:12:17,374 --> 01:12:21,170
[commentator] Wanted to see another gear
from Devin, he's showing us another gear.
1283
01:12:21,253 --> 01:12:24,006
Devin Haney is 30 and O.
1284
01:12:24,089 --> 01:12:25,924
He defends the undisputed...
1285
01:12:26,008 --> 01:12:29,803
[Novitzky] He'll take any publicity
as long as his name is in the lights,
1286
01:12:30,304 --> 01:12:33,098
so I don't think
you can believe a word that guy says.
1287
01:12:33,599 --> 01:12:35,476
[riveting music playing]
1288
01:12:35,559 --> 01:12:41,357
The BALCO investigation changed
the country's perspective
1289
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:45,361
and the perspective
of the leagues towards drugs.
1290
01:12:45,861 --> 01:12:48,572
This record is not tainted at all.
1291
01:12:49,156 --> 01:12:50,156
At all.
1292
01:12:51,116 --> 01:12:55,371
[Schmidt] And it set off
consequential developments
1293
01:12:55,454 --> 01:12:59,666
that create
the drug-testing systems today.
1294
01:13:00,626 --> 01:13:04,088
[Veronica] I think the masses
remember Victor Conte
1295
01:13:04,171 --> 01:13:07,883
as the guy who single-handedly
brought down the world of sport.
1296
01:13:08,467 --> 01:13:09,927
I hope that changes.
1297
01:13:10,010 --> 01:13:12,054
[Hurd] Victor makes things work for him.
1298
01:13:12,137 --> 01:13:15,933
I think that that has a lot to do with him
controlling his own narrative.
1299
01:13:16,016 --> 01:13:19,770
I mean, it's the American way.
Isn't he still driving a Bentley?
1300
01:13:20,354 --> 01:13:23,857
[Conte] I realized there's no such thing
as bad publicity.
1301
01:13:23,941 --> 01:13:27,611
Like, Google Ads,
whatever the keywords that you put in,
1302
01:13:27,694 --> 01:13:30,239
if you put in "Barry Bonds"
or "Marion Jones"
1303
01:13:30,322 --> 01:13:32,282
or "BALCO" or whatever it is,
1304
01:13:32,866 --> 01:13:35,744
right next to it's an ad for ZMA, right?
1305
01:13:36,245 --> 01:13:39,665
So, in essence,
I was turning the lemon into lemonade.
1306
01:13:40,249 --> 01:13:42,209
Should I send the Feds a thank-you card?
1307
01:13:42,292 --> 01:13:44,837
They might have made me
millions of dollars.
1308
01:13:46,296 --> 01:13:47,131
[chuckles]
1309
01:13:47,214 --> 01:13:50,426
["It's All in the Game"
by Tommy Edwards plays]
1310
01:13:50,509 --> 01:13:55,305
♪ But it's all in the game ♪
1311
01:13:59,435 --> 01:14:01,937
♪ All in the wonderful game... ♪
1312
01:14:02,020 --> 01:14:06,984
[commentator] ...deals,
and Bonds hits one high, hits it deep!
1313
01:14:07,067 --> 01:14:09,820
It is outta here!
1314
01:14:11,947 --> 01:14:13,699
Seven-fifty-six!
1315
01:14:13,782 --> 01:14:18,620
♪ And your future's looking dim ♪
1316
01:14:18,704 --> 01:14:20,038
[audience cheering]
1317
01:14:20,122 --> 01:14:22,124
♪ But these things ♪
1318
01:14:23,417 --> 01:14:30,299
♪ Your hearts can rise above ♪
1319
01:14:33,135 --> 01:14:36,054
♪ Once in a while he won't call ♪
1320
01:14:37,473 --> 01:14:39,266
♪ But it's all ♪
1321
01:14:40,559 --> 01:14:43,061
♪ In the game ♪
1322
01:14:46,648 --> 01:14:49,318
♪ Soon he'll be there at your side ♪
1323
01:14:50,986 --> 01:14:54,406
♪ With a sweet... ♪
1324
01:14:54,490 --> 01:14:59,536
[commentator] 9.78 seconds.
A world record for Tim Montgomery.
1325
01:15:00,996 --> 01:15:02,581
[indistinct chatter]
1326
01:15:02,664 --> 01:15:05,584
[Montgomery] Did I deserve
to get taken away? Yes, I did.
1327
01:15:05,667 --> 01:15:09,421
But the experience I'll always live with,
1328
01:15:09,922 --> 01:15:11,882
and that's what they can't take back.
1329
01:15:13,008 --> 01:15:17,221
That moment of doing this...
they can never take it back.
1330
01:15:17,721 --> 01:15:18,847
[music stops]
1331
01:15:32,194 --> 01:15:33,654
That's the original sign
1332
01:15:33,737 --> 01:15:38,075
that was up behind the spectrometer
and the laboratory of BALCO for 20 years.
1333
01:15:38,158 --> 01:15:40,452
Probably worth at least a buck or two
I would think.
1334
01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:42,430
- [producer] You're gonna sell it?
- I don't know.
1335
01:15:42,454 --> 01:15:45,457
No, we'll probably just give it
to the baseball hall of fame.