1 00:00:10,670 --> 00:00:12,000 [Natalia]During the gag order, 2 00:00:12,030 --> 00:00:14,930 I couldn't talk to Michael, at all. 3 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,070 So, once the gag order was lifted, 4 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:20,500 he reached out and said he wanted to talk. 5 00:00:20,530 --> 00:00:23,870 It's been years since I talked to him. 6 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:26,330 I'm like, "Okay, I'll hear him out." 7 00:00:26,370 --> 00:00:28,700 Because, you know, I had a lot of questions. 8 00:00:28,730 --> 00:00:29,970 I have a lot of questions. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Let's see what he has to say. 10 00:00:42,670 --> 00:00:45,470 [Michael] I feel like I have to do this. 11 00:00:45,500 --> 00:00:48,300 You know, I feel like I'm compelled to do this. You know, like... 12 00:00:49,230 --> 00:00:51,100 I have to finish this. 13 00:00:55,830 --> 00:00:58,830 I just want everybody to be happy, 14 00:00:58,870 --> 00:01:02,000 and heal and live their lives. 15 00:01:02,030 --> 00:01:03,870 I'm not here to lie, I'm not here to hide, 16 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:05,400 I'm not here to scream, I'm not here to curse. 17 00:01:05,430 --> 00:01:09,230 But in the end, a bad guy wouldn't be here today doing this. 18 00:01:11,270 --> 00:01:13,130 I'm not a bad guy. 19 00:01:26,930 --> 00:01:28,700 [Natalia grunts softly] 20 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:33,030 [sighs] 21 00:01:33,070 --> 00:01:36,330 -You're ready to let God have his way. -Amen. 22 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,970 This is it. 23 00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:42,370 We here. 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,900 God take you to it, he gonna take you through it. 25 00:01:44,930 --> 00:01:46,229 That's right. 26 00:01:46,270 --> 00:01:48,500 So I want you to go in there, 27 00:01:48,530 --> 00:01:51,570 and say everything that is on your heart. 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,830 Everything that you have suffered. 29 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:58,670 Everything that you have dealt with. 30 00:02:00,530 --> 00:02:02,630 It is okay to be angry. 31 00:02:02,670 --> 00:02:04,770 Be confident, walk in there. 32 00:02:05,570 --> 00:02:07,800 Because God's got you. I got you. 33 00:02:07,830 --> 00:02:09,630 So I want you to go in there, 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,200 and be not afraid. 35 00:02:14,470 --> 00:02:16,930 Because that devil is a liar! 36 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:19,700 In the name of Jesus. 37 00:02:19,730 --> 00:02:25,230 It was the weirdest moment for reconciliation. 38 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:29,770 Everyone's there, wanting to see these two family members come back together, 39 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,030 after several years. 40 00:02:31,070 --> 00:02:35,200 Michael is sitting there, excited. 41 00:02:35,230 --> 00:02:38,930 Well, God let everything be purged today 42 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:44,300 in the name of Jesus, and let the record be cleared up. 43 00:02:44,329 --> 00:02:47,770 Because God's got the highest court in the land, that's the truth! 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,630 Where we go, God is in control. 45 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:53,630 Antwon Mans, he begins to give this impactful speech, 46 00:02:54,670 --> 00:02:57,130 indicating that this was Natalia's moment. 47 00:02:57,170 --> 00:02:59,230 That she should go in and be on the attack. 48 00:02:59,270 --> 00:03:01,630 That she should be confrontational. 49 00:03:01,670 --> 00:03:06,570 It was as if he was giving the Al Pacino speech in Any Given Sunday. 50 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,400 "Every inch is your inch. 51 00:03:08,430 --> 00:03:09,670 Every mile is your mile." 52 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:12,600 [Antwon] I ain't got no fear. It's gonna be holy around here. 53 00:03:12,630 --> 00:03:14,370 "Go in there and get the truth." 54 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,230 [Antwon] That devil's a liar! 55 00:03:16,270 --> 00:03:17,700 A complete liar! 56 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:20,000 "Make him come to your will. 57 00:03:20,030 --> 00:03:21,670 "God is in control." 58 00:03:21,700 --> 00:03:23,670 [Antwon] Where we go, God's in control. 59 00:03:25,230 --> 00:03:26,700 It was... 60 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:29,470 unusual, to say the least. 61 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:33,800 And we just ask God that He would continue to shine a light upon this situation. 62 00:03:33,829 --> 00:03:35,870 In Jesus' name, 63 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:38,400 amen. 64 00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:40,329 [Natalia] Let's do this, 65 00:03:42,030 --> 00:03:44,130 [theme music playing] 66 00:03:56,329 --> 00:03:58,370 -Antwon, how are you? -How're you doing? 67 00:04:02,730 --> 00:04:03,900 [Natalia] Hi. 68 00:04:16,970 --> 00:04:18,700 Why are we here, Michael? 69 00:04:19,970 --> 00:04:21,769 Why are we here? That's... That's... 70 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,200 Well, if you're talking philosophically, 71 00:04:25,230 --> 00:04:26,430 I can't say the word right... 72 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:28,430 That's probably something more for the bishop over here. 73 00:04:28,470 --> 00:04:29,830 But, why are we here? 74 00:04:29,870 --> 00:04:33,870 No, like, I wanna know why did you adopt me in the first place. 75 00:04:38,170 --> 00:04:39,500 [shouts] Why? 76 00:04:47,770 --> 00:04:49,770 My name is Brandon Davenport, 77 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,600 a detective with Indiana State Police, 78 00:04:52,630 --> 00:04:56,930 and the primary investigator for the Natalia Barnett case. 79 00:04:56,970 --> 00:04:58,830 Everybody that gets involved in this investigation 80 00:04:58,870 --> 00:05:03,070 always start out as, "Man, it's a really crazy story." 81 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:06,330 I was first contacted in 2019, 82 00:05:06,370 --> 00:05:08,600 by a doctor that had reported 83 00:05:08,630 --> 00:05:10,270 a child that came to their facility. 84 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:13,330 And the documents didn't really add up to 85 00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:17,100 exactly who they were talking to. 86 00:05:17,130 --> 00:05:19,770 She living with the Mans family, at the time. 87 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,270 And this girl, who had dwarfism, 88 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:24,300 and her ID card, even if it was expired 89 00:05:24,330 --> 00:05:27,200 was saying that she was an adult when she was clearly a child. 90 00:05:27,230 --> 00:05:30,730 Natalia deserves her story to be told, truthfully. 91 00:05:30,770 --> 00:05:33,000 Natalia deserves justice. 92 00:05:33,030 --> 00:05:35,700 But I don't know if justice means that, you know, 93 00:05:35,730 --> 00:05:37,230 anybody goes to jail. 94 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:39,400 That's not my place. 95 00:05:39,430 --> 00:05:42,970 I'm an investigator and I just put the facts together. 96 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 And it's really a very unfair thing that's happened. 97 00:05:46,030 --> 00:05:47,900 The lines that were pushed onto her, 98 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,500 the world should know 99 00:05:52,130 --> 00:05:53,830 that it's not true. 100 00:05:53,870 --> 00:05:55,500 She was a child. 101 00:05:55,530 --> 00:05:59,230 When it comes to Barnetts, let's talk about their motive. 102 00:05:59,270 --> 00:06:03,430 You know, if you were saying that somebody that has money and power and influence 103 00:06:03,470 --> 00:06:06,200 and then pretends to be, 104 00:06:06,230 --> 00:06:07,970 like, everything's picture perfect, 105 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,170 if they're more than likely to get away with something, 106 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,500 there's always that possibility. 107 00:06:14,530 --> 00:06:19,070 I really think that every child has a brilliant potential inside of them. 108 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:22,770 And I've been working with many, many children, not just Jacob. 109 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,000 And in each one of them, I see this little spark. 110 00:06:27,030 --> 00:06:31,170 [Jackie Starbuck]Michael alleged that Kristine thought 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,370 she had turned Jacob into a genius. 112 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,170 And so, by adopting a special needs child, 113 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,030 she could show that she could do this again. 114 00:06:41,070 --> 00:06:46,200 And he alleged that when that didn't turn out just the way that Kristine wanted, 115 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:52,830 that's why Natalia didn't fit into Kristine's narrative. 116 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:57,370 Kristine was writing a book, which was ultimately called The Spark, 117 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,570 about the academic success of her oldest son, Jacob. 118 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,070 So, here's the timeline regarding the book. 119 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:05,600 The Barnetts adopt Natalia in 2010. 120 00:07:05,630 --> 00:07:09,230 Kristine signs a book deal in 2011, 121 00:07:09,270 --> 00:07:11,730 and the book is published in 2013. 122 00:07:11,770 --> 00:07:15,670 So this whole time that Natalia is part of the Barnett household, 123 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:20,230 Kristine is really working hard to maintain her image. 124 00:07:20,270 --> 00:07:23,100 Now, look. We know Kristine was no stranger 125 00:07:23,130 --> 00:07:24,870 to making money off her kids. 126 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:27,770 She has made a ton off of Jacob. 127 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,930 In 2009, Jacob's Place, 128 00:07:29,970 --> 00:07:32,230 the daycare center that Kristine and Michael ran, 129 00:07:32,270 --> 00:07:35,070 made over $100,000. 130 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:38,930 With The Spark, she made at least $500,000 just on the book deal. 131 00:07:38,970 --> 00:07:40,700 And then there were donations. 132 00:07:40,730 --> 00:07:43,300 That's enough to build an empire. 133 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:46,700 There was also a movie deal in the works. 134 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:49,370 Rosamund Pike was supposed to play Kristine. 135 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,600 Kristine had a web presence of some kind 136 00:07:52,630 --> 00:07:55,130 where she was influencing people 137 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:57,670 to pay her amounts of money 138 00:07:57,700 --> 00:07:59,670 to have a phone call with her 139 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:01,300 and get some help. 140 00:08:02,370 --> 00:08:05,300 [Karas]Kristine's organization was pretty successful, 141 00:08:05,330 --> 00:08:06,870 very early on. 142 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:10,830 She boasted do her friend about a $60,000 loan 143 00:08:10,870 --> 00:08:15,800 and a non-refundable $35,000 "payment" she received. 144 00:08:16,970 --> 00:08:18,330 [deputy prosecutor]Do you know how much money 145 00:08:18,370 --> 00:08:20,300 Kristine Barnett made off the sale of her book? 146 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:25,000 The advance on the book was $600,000. 147 00:08:25,030 --> 00:08:29,930 I have no knowledge of any residuals after the fact 148 00:08:29,970 --> 00:08:32,169 because we got divorced very soon thereafter. 149 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,730 Oh, that's hers. 150 00:08:43,770 --> 00:08:46,470 I was to support the family. Anything that she made was for her. 151 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,970 [Jacob] This book that she wrote, 152 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,130 there's a fraction of the earnings 153 00:08:54,170 --> 00:08:55,630 which were... 154 00:08:56,430 --> 00:08:57,670 supposed to go to her. 155 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:01,300 and 'cause, like, I'm a pretty big subject of the book... 156 00:09:01,330 --> 00:09:03,000 I mean, I'm on the cover, so. 157 00:09:03,030 --> 00:09:06,600 Like, there was a fraction of the money that was supposed to go to me. 158 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:09,370 And so, she was, you know, trusted with... 159 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:11,930 With, you know, making sure that 160 00:09:11,970 --> 00:09:14,400 that money was spent appropriately. 161 00:09:14,430 --> 00:09:16,730 And you know that... It was spent. 162 00:09:17,730 --> 00:09:19,600 I didn't... I didn't get a cent of it. 163 00:09:19,630 --> 00:09:22,600 It's on the order of $200,000 164 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:25,370 that was supposed to go to me but didn't. 165 00:09:29,530 --> 00:09:32,600 [Michael] She left him with about five bucks. 166 00:09:32,630 --> 00:09:35,900 To his words, "She left me enough money to get a cup of coffee." 167 00:09:38,930 --> 00:09:40,900 [sighs] Who does that? 168 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:43,830 If I were to write a book about my child, 169 00:09:43,870 --> 00:09:45,970 and there was a large check that was sent to me, 170 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,400 with the promise 171 00:09:48,430 --> 00:09:49,630 that a fraction of it would go to the child, 172 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:50,870 I would absolutely save it for them. 173 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:52,800 And I'd find, like... 174 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:55,400 you know, the part of criteria for existence 175 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:57,030 is I need to be able to sustain myself. 176 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:01,900 I... I asked her about it, and then she sort of... 177 00:10:01,930 --> 00:10:04,300 She came at me with the excuse 178 00:10:04,330 --> 00:10:06,730 of, "Oh, I used that money so that you could 179 00:10:06,770 --> 00:10:08,530 "go to school in Canada." 180 00:10:08,570 --> 00:10:11,370 You know, at that point, I just hung up on her. 181 00:10:14,430 --> 00:10:18,230 Kristine said that adopting me was this mission of love. 182 00:10:18,270 --> 00:10:24,200 And never once did I see any love. 183 00:10:24,230 --> 00:10:27,930 I felt like it was a mission of, like, boosting her ego... 184 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,100 type of thing. 185 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:33,100 I felt like she just wanted people 186 00:10:33,130 --> 00:10:34,870 to be, like, "Oh, my goodness! 187 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:36,430 "She's this amazing person. 188 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:38,800 "She just adopted a little girl from Ukraine 189 00:10:38,830 --> 00:10:40,070 who has dwarfism, 190 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:43,600 and has all these different medical issues 191 00:10:43,630 --> 00:10:45,000 and everything like that. 192 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:47,600 You know, she's a great mom for wanting to help somebody, right?" 193 00:10:47,630 --> 00:10:48,900 [sighs in exasperation] 194 00:10:51,470 --> 00:10:53,530 [Karas] In 2019, 195 00:10:53,570 --> 00:10:55,830 years after she got rid of Natalia, 196 00:10:55,870 --> 00:10:58,200 Kristine is reaching out to numerous people 197 00:10:58,230 --> 00:11:01,000 soliciting donations to support 198 00:11:01,030 --> 00:11:04,000 the international campaign to end the use 199 00:11:04,030 --> 00:11:05,770 of seclusion, restraint, 200 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,300 physical and verbal abuse of children with disabilities. 201 00:11:10,330 --> 00:11:13,430 Something doesn't sound right, here. 202 00:11:13,470 --> 00:11:16,230 She's even asking Freddie Gill for his help 203 00:11:16,270 --> 00:11:19,230 because of his status as a leader in the community. 204 00:11:19,270 --> 00:11:23,430 [Freddie Gill]Kristine Barnett was like... She was an amazing person. 205 00:11:23,470 --> 00:11:25,770 She would send me text messages like... 206 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,600 She's inviting me to 207 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,330 "Join the campaign to end the... 208 00:11:30,370 --> 00:11:31,970 To end the, uh, 209 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,800 physical and verbal abuse of children with disabilities." 210 00:11:35,070 --> 00:11:37,070 Um, what? 211 00:11:37,870 --> 00:11:39,430 So, it's like a mask. 212 00:11:41,530 --> 00:11:43,770 Like, just put on a mask, 213 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,100 have this really nice smile. 214 00:11:46,130 --> 00:11:49,230 This, "I'm a great mom." 215 00:11:49,270 --> 00:11:52,200 But then it's like pull that mask off, 216 00:11:52,230 --> 00:11:53,830 this is who she really is. 217 00:11:53,870 --> 00:11:55,700 Like, your true colors. 218 00:11:55,730 --> 00:11:57,630 Kristine was a monster. 219 00:11:57,670 --> 00:11:59,470 I didn't know what she was gonna do next. 220 00:12:05,470 --> 00:12:07,700 [Karas] Based upon Kristine's actions, 221 00:12:07,740 --> 00:12:11,500 it certainly appears that she had big plans for Natalia. 222 00:12:11,530 --> 00:12:14,200 She wanted her to be the next spark. 223 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:18,300 Kristine is going to use Natalia's physical disability 224 00:12:18,330 --> 00:12:21,130 to make money, as well as her mental faculties. 225 00:12:21,170 --> 00:12:22,970 Maybe she's a genius, like Jacob. 226 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,330 Because Kristine made a lot of money off of Jacob. 227 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:28,900 And now, it's Natalia's turn. 228 00:12:31,570 --> 00:12:32,670 [Natalia] Hi. 229 00:12:47,330 --> 00:12:50,600 When I was first adopted by the Barnetts, 230 00:12:50,630 --> 00:12:53,670 I really thought that they were gonna be my family. 231 00:12:54,770 --> 00:12:57,000 I really wanted a dad and a mom 232 00:12:57,030 --> 00:13:00,200 that actually accepts my disabilities 233 00:13:00,230 --> 00:13:03,100 and loves me as their daughter. 234 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:05,900 I used to, like, watch a lot of TV shows where 235 00:13:05,930 --> 00:13:09,030 a mom and her daughter were very close. 236 00:13:09,070 --> 00:13:14,130 I thought that Kristine was gonna be the mom that I always wanted. 237 00:13:16,370 --> 00:13:20,740 When I first got to the Barnetts' house, 238 00:13:20,770 --> 00:13:26,000 I remember that Kristine and Michael had both shown me around, 239 00:13:26,030 --> 00:13:28,300 and then they took me to my room 240 00:13:28,330 --> 00:13:30,930 where there was, like, this big dollhouse 241 00:13:30,970 --> 00:13:33,770 and this princess bed, 242 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,100 and everything like that. 243 00:13:35,130 --> 00:13:36,400 They showed me my closet, 244 00:13:36,430 --> 00:13:38,230 which was a walk-in closet. I was, like, "Whoa.' 245 00:13:38,270 --> 00:13:40,070 And they even... 246 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:42,530 Like, they lowered the shelves and everything for me 247 00:13:42,570 --> 00:13:44,400 so I could be able to get my clothes. 248 00:13:44,430 --> 00:13:47,230 You know, I was just so happy. 249 00:13:47,270 --> 00:13:49,330 There was a park, right across the street. 250 00:13:49,370 --> 00:13:52,330 We would hang out, we would play games and everything. 251 00:13:52,370 --> 00:13:54,570 It was so much fun. 252 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,030 And I was going to school. I was in first grade. 253 00:13:58,070 --> 00:14:00,100 I was so excited 254 00:14:00,130 --> 00:14:03,100 because I wanted to go to school for as long as I could remember. 255 00:14:03,130 --> 00:14:05,870 I loved my classmates. I loved my friends. 256 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:09,070 And, like, I loved my first grade teacher. 257 00:14:10,470 --> 00:14:13,930 [Brandon Davenport]The Barnetts pushed this philosophy that Natalia 258 00:14:13,970 --> 00:14:16,770 is really, really smart, reading these advanced books. 259 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,270 You know, listen, as an investigator, 260 00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:20,930 I don't go by some whimsical information. 261 00:14:20,970 --> 00:14:22,130 You know, I wanna know. 262 00:14:22,170 --> 00:14:24,800 I'm gonna ask those... I'm gonna ask those questions. 263 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,200 -[Davenport] Hey, how are you? -[teacher] Good, how are you? 264 00:14:27,230 --> 00:14:28,700 [Davenport]I'm not doing too bad. 265 00:14:28,740 --> 00:14:31,400 So you worked at an elementary school 266 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,570 during the same time 267 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,100 that Natalia Barnett went there. 268 00:14:37,330 --> 00:14:39,030 [Davenport] Kristine had brought it to your attention 269 00:14:39,070 --> 00:14:41,600 that they were questioning how old Natalia was. 270 00:14:41,630 --> 00:14:44,030 Did you ever question Natalia's age? Or did you... 271 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:54,370 [Davenport] Is she a prodigy? 272 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:55,930 I mean, is she a standout student 273 00:14:55,970 --> 00:14:57,930 that she's so smart that she shouldn't be there? 274 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:14,670 I was over there one day and Kristine just looked at Natalia 275 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:18,100 and she said, "Can you read?" She said, "Of course, I can read. I'm not stupid." 276 00:15:18,130 --> 00:15:21,100 And this is not a little girl's voice. 277 00:15:21,130 --> 00:15:24,330 And so Kris gave her a Cosmopolitan magazine, 278 00:15:24,370 --> 00:15:25,840 and put it down in front of her. 279 00:15:25,870 --> 00:15:27,200 Opened to an article, 280 00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:30,130 and Natalia started reading as well as you or I could. 281 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:33,740 How does someone at six 282 00:15:33,770 --> 00:15:36,130 read a Cosmo magazine? 283 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:40,000 Natalia, being able to read an article out of Cosmo, 284 00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:43,870 I mean, how many times did she read that article 285 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:45,800 before she recorded her? 286 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,870 People can make a video 287 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:51,630 look however they wanna make it look. 288 00:15:52,530 --> 00:15:55,900 But the question then becomes "Why?" 289 00:15:55,930 --> 00:15:58,900 We're talking about a little girl's life that had changed forever 290 00:15:58,930 --> 00:16:01,100 because certain statements were made. 291 00:16:01,130 --> 00:16:02,800 She was reading an advanced book. 292 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,170 Well, here's what I do know. 293 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,670 Gateway Woods, you know, who gets the medical records 294 00:16:06,700 --> 00:16:08,500 from Boston Hospital also identified 295 00:16:08,530 --> 00:16:11,030 that Natalia's abilities, her aptitude, 296 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:14,770 were very, very similar to the age that we believe she is. 297 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,800 The school, I talked to the officials there, I talked to the teachers, 298 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,370 and they loved this kid. 299 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,870 They said, 300 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:23,770 "I mean, she may have been able to handle second grade, 301 00:16:24,630 --> 00:16:26,670 "but we felt first grade was more appropriate." 302 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,570 Kristine could be pretty feisty. 303 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,100 We heard reports that were concerning to us 304 00:16:34,130 --> 00:16:38,200 about how Natalia's parents interacted with her 305 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:41,470 They sounded like they were mean to her, honestly. 306 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:44,530 And so, if we ever brought anything like that up with Kristine, 307 00:16:44,570 --> 00:16:45,600 she just flipped. 308 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:49,400 [Natalia] Kristine was like 309 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:51,500 "I'm taking her out of school." 310 00:16:51,530 --> 00:16:54,600 She took my friends out of my life. 311 00:16:54,630 --> 00:16:57,230 Just cut 'em off. I didn't even get a chance to say goodbye 312 00:16:57,270 --> 00:16:59,670 to any of my friends from school. 313 00:17:00,870 --> 00:17:02,170 Nobody. 314 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,230 I didn't understand that 315 00:17:04,270 --> 00:17:05,970 my whole life was being controlled 316 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,569 on who I talked to and everything. 317 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:11,069 I didn't understand why, really, I got taken out of school. 318 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:15,130 All I was told was because they were getting phone calls. 319 00:17:15,170 --> 00:17:16,700 And I was hurting people with my wheelchair, 320 00:17:16,740 --> 00:17:18,300 running them over and everything. 321 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:19,800 No, I wasn't. 322 00:17:21,329 --> 00:17:23,470 Kristine took Natalia out of school 323 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,930 to home school her at "Barnett Academy". 324 00:17:25,970 --> 00:17:28,530 This is the same place 325 00:17:28,569 --> 00:17:31,700 where Jacob's transcripts say he was educated. 326 00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:33,500 At "Barnett Academy". 327 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:35,930 And Michael filed a police report 328 00:17:35,970 --> 00:17:37,500 alleging fraud 329 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,130 because Kristine passed him 330 00:17:41,170 --> 00:17:43,170 in Japanese, and he couldn't speak it, 331 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,570 and gave him an A in making spaghetti. 332 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:50,800 I met with Michael Barnett. 333 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,170 And, you know, I didn't approach him 334 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,930 with the expectation I was gonna arrest him. 335 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:56,840 You know, I was investigating 336 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:58,500 this particular issue. 337 00:17:58,530 --> 00:18:00,740 He could have... He could have stopped the conversation 338 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:04,530 but I think he had a lot that he wanted to resolve, also. 339 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:30,700 This transcript was 340 00:18:30,740 --> 00:18:32,370 pretty ridiculous. 341 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,700 However, Jacob was a genius. 342 00:18:34,740 --> 00:18:36,800 Natalia was not a genius. 343 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,870 Doesn't matter. Kristine was trying to pass off 344 00:18:39,900 --> 00:18:43,740 Natalia as being able to perform 345 00:18:43,770 --> 00:18:46,030 academic skills that she didn't have! 346 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,600 According to Kristine, 347 00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:51,170 Natalia could even pass a GED, 348 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,000 if given the test. 349 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,200 Kristine thought she had turned Jacob into a genius. 350 00:19:00,230 --> 00:19:02,470 She saved him when no-one else could. 351 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:04,270 And according to what Michael said, 352 00:19:04,300 --> 00:19:07,130 that's what Kristine planned to do with Natalia. 353 00:19:07,170 --> 00:19:09,970 But the problem was that 354 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,270 Natalia didn't fit into the narrative. 355 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:17,400 [Natalia] I was only, like, six or seven years old. 356 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:20,100 And Kristine tries to give me a physics paper 357 00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:22,170 and I'm like, "I don't know what I'm doing." 358 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,370 Like, I don't... Like, "What is this?" 359 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,430 And she's like, "I know you know this. 360 00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:27,700 "And you're gonna do it." 361 00:19:27,740 --> 00:19:29,230 And then she walked away. 362 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:35,070 But I was stuck. 363 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,070 And... 364 00:19:41,330 --> 00:19:44,370 I guess she just got so mad 365 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,870 because I was telling, like, "I don't know this." 366 00:19:47,930 --> 00:19:49,400 And she pepper sprayed me. 367 00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:51,770 Right in the face. 368 00:19:53,330 --> 00:19:56,570 She said, "That's what it's gonna feel like every time that you do this." 369 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,900 I started rubbing my eyes. She said "Don't do that. 370 00:19:59,930 --> 00:20:02,430 It's just gonna make it worse." 371 00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:06,230 And she, literally, would not let me wash it off 372 00:20:06,270 --> 00:20:08,600 or anything. She wouldn't help me. 373 00:20:08,630 --> 00:20:11,100 All I know is I wanna get this off my eyes. 374 00:20:11,130 --> 00:20:12,270 This hurts! 375 00:20:13,770 --> 00:20:17,500 But she didn't care that she pepper sprayed me. 376 00:20:17,530 --> 00:20:20,200 She doesn't care that I was crying because it hurts. 377 00:20:23,930 --> 00:20:25,630 [sobbing] 378 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,070 [inhales deeply] 379 00:20:31,930 --> 00:20:33,100 [sniffles] 380 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,170 [sighs] 381 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,630 She literally did it for not knowing high school math. 382 00:20:40,670 --> 00:20:42,530 I'm getting pepper sprayed. 383 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:45,770 [sprays] 384 00:20:48,740 --> 00:20:52,270 I was seven years old. I was supposed to be in first grade. 385 00:20:52,300 --> 00:20:54,700 And she took me out of first grade. 386 00:20:55,770 --> 00:20:57,870 All I knew was how to be scared. 387 00:20:59,530 --> 00:21:01,330 That was my normal. 388 00:21:04,330 --> 00:21:07,870 But everything was just about to get even worse. 389 00:21:13,740 --> 00:21:15,800 [Karas] Within seven months of adopting Natalia, 390 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,940 Kristine realized Natalia was an average student. 391 00:21:18,970 --> 00:21:20,900 She wasn't the genius that Jacob was. 392 00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:24,400 So, Kristine's plan is failing big time 393 00:21:24,970 --> 00:21:27,440 and Natalia is a money pit. 394 00:21:27,470 --> 00:21:29,640 Because she needs a lot of surgery 395 00:21:29,670 --> 00:21:32,400 for her medical problems. 396 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,400 [Natalia] Ever since I was really little, 397 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,440 I've needed surgeries. 398 00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:39,240 I was with the Barnetts for just a little while 399 00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:42,040 but I had my surgery on my feet. 400 00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:43,500 [Michael] We had had her for six months. 401 00:21:43,540 --> 00:21:48,200 Her feet would lock in place, her Achilles needed to be, I think, cut 402 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,800 and loosened so she could move her foot around. 403 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,700 The only thing I remember mostly 404 00:21:52,740 --> 00:21:55,800 is just going into a surgery room 405 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,370 'cause it's like, all light. 406 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,340 And then getting two shots in my arms and I'm out. 407 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,140 And then next thing I know, I have 408 00:22:03,170 --> 00:22:04,770 casts on my feet. 409 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,570 When I had my surgery, there was a lot of rough nights with that. 410 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,840 And I remember being in so much pain 411 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:14,670 that I had to take pain medicine 412 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:15,840 or else I couldn't get rid of it. 413 00:22:15,870 --> 00:22:17,600 I always called Kristine, 414 00:22:18,340 --> 00:22:20,400 because, you know, she's my mom. 415 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,100 You know, moms are supposed to be able to take care of their kids. 416 00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:25,800 Michael was actually the one that gave me my medicine. 417 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,370 And then he left. 418 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,500 And I was able to go back to sleep after that. 419 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:34,200 I started thinking 420 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,940 if maybe Kristine and Michael just didn't want to take care of me 421 00:22:37,970 --> 00:22:40,440 when they found out how many surgeries I needed. 422 00:22:41,300 --> 00:22:43,100 And the fact that 423 00:22:43,140 --> 00:22:46,870 it would have been a long recovery process with all of them. 424 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:51,100 And, like, maybe she felt like she was gonna be stuck, 425 00:22:51,140 --> 00:22:54,000 instead of being able to go out there 426 00:22:54,740 --> 00:22:57,800 and, like, show off her son. 427 00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:03,570 I mean, everybody that we know that has diastrophic dysplasia 428 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,070 has, you know, usually a group of surgeries, 429 00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:10,300 you know, probably close to around five years old. 430 00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:12,540 -Actually sooner, as a baby, for the club feet. -Sometimes sooner now, 431 00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:14,040 as a baby, with the club feet, right. 432 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:17,100 It was clear to them that she needed, 433 00:23:17,140 --> 00:23:19,900 you know, lots of surgeries 434 00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:21,600 to her lower extremities 435 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,170 to straighten them. 436 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,500 The Barnetts gave her a surgery on her ankle. 437 00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:28,600 But one surgery on her ankle is like 438 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,270 a drop in the bucket 439 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:33,000 for what we need. And, you know... 440 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,870 Every single thing costs money. 441 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:37,940 Maybe that's part of the problem with the Barnetts. 442 00:23:37,970 --> 00:23:40,500 Because all of a sudden, they start having problems. 443 00:23:40,540 --> 00:23:42,300 Are you surprised? I'm not. 444 00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:46,400 Like, literally, my feet... 445 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,040 This one, the way my feet are shaped, 446 00:23:49,070 --> 00:23:50,200 and the way I walk, 447 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,770 especially with my right foot, 448 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,100 it twists. 449 00:23:55,140 --> 00:24:00,300 So, it would literally be like scraping the bottom part of the shoe. 450 00:24:00,340 --> 00:24:03,800 And that's why I've had to get special made shoes 451 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,500 because I can't wear normal shoes. 452 00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:08,270 They're at least, like, $30,000. 453 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:11,670 These are my second pair. They last for a pretty long time. 454 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:15,370 I actually had to get these patched up because of how much I used them. 455 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,700 Every doctor I see, they're like, 456 00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:18,540 "Okay, we're gonna have to do special made this 457 00:24:18,570 --> 00:24:20,470 "or special made that." I'm like... 458 00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:22,870 Everything I need has to be special made. 459 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,240 [lawyer] Were you ever specifically told by the adoption agency 460 00:24:29,270 --> 00:24:32,540 that Natalia may require surgeries? 461 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:34,640 By the adoption agency? No. 462 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,800 You know, I guess, like, in a sense 463 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,540 they did kinda cause the pain that I have now 464 00:24:42,570 --> 00:24:44,400 Because I couldn't get my surgeries 465 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,970 because the doctors didn't know what to do. 466 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,040 Like, there was just no way. Like, they told me 467 00:24:49,070 --> 00:24:52,040 "We don't know if we should treat you as a kid, 468 00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:53,940 "or do a treatment as an adult." 469 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,000 Like, "We don't know." 470 00:25:00,270 --> 00:25:04,200 I'm Veronica Maxwell. I'm a retired FBI agent. 471 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,240 I served for 28 years in the Agency 472 00:25:07,270 --> 00:25:09,640 and investigated terrorism, 473 00:25:09,670 --> 00:25:12,540 counter intelligence, organized crime, 474 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:14,970 drugs and crimes against children, 475 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,440 where I was exposed to scenarios 476 00:25:19,470 --> 00:25:22,940 not unlike some of the aspects of Natalia Barnett. 477 00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:25,540 Dealing with cases regarding minors, 478 00:25:25,570 --> 00:25:29,240 I believe I am a very compassionate person. 479 00:25:29,270 --> 00:25:31,970 And I always ran towards the danger. 480 00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:38,140 It was my job to go and hunt down the truth. 481 00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:41,600 The Natalia case intrigues me 482 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,300 because you have this person who is extremely fragile. 483 00:25:45,340 --> 00:25:50,040 And it is so complicated, it involves travel from other countries. 484 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:52,970 It involves numerous adults. 485 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,740 It sounds like there may have been a point 486 00:25:56,770 --> 00:25:59,540 where the Barnetts realized that Natalia was... 487 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,940 Was starting to be a burden. 488 00:26:05,670 --> 00:26:11,000 Kristine Barnett was a person who needed to achieve her goal 489 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,370 with respect to her children, 490 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,270 and how other people view her 491 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:18,170 and maintain a certain reputation. 492 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,170 And she wasn't gonna back down. 493 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,670 This child is really in her way right now. 494 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,600 [Natalia] Kristine just started going off every day, about something. 495 00:26:31,270 --> 00:26:32,600 That's literally how it felt. 496 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Because every time Kristine came, 497 00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:36,940 she was yelling at me about something. 498 00:26:37,770 --> 00:26:40,840 It felt like the littlest stuff that I did 499 00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:44,940 was gonna turn into something crazy when it shouldn't have. 500 00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:47,470 And then that's when she started saying 501 00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:49,400 that I took stuff from the boys. 502 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,100 Because they couldn't find, like, two books and some cars. 503 00:26:56,770 --> 00:27:00,840 Natalia would find things that were important to them, 504 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:02,870 like a Hot Wheel car, 505 00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:05,600 she'd hide them, she'd wait to be crossing the street, 506 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,100 she would throw them into the street and make sure the boys saw it. 507 00:27:09,140 --> 00:27:11,640 So they'd run in the traffic, so they'd get run over. 508 00:27:11,670 --> 00:27:13,800 [horn honking] 509 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,970 I didn't take anything. 510 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,970 I told Kristine, I didn't take any of their stuff. 511 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,540 And she just told me I was lying. 512 00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:24,340 I was not there when she threw one of the kids' toys. 513 00:27:24,370 --> 00:27:26,500 I heard about that from the boys. 514 00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:28,670 Not just from Kris. 515 00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:30,840 I did hear that story from the boys. 516 00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:32,570 The boys shared that with me. 517 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,700 [sobs] 518 00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:39,840 She treated the boys like they were her sons. 519 00:27:39,870 --> 00:27:42,000 She treated them like a normal mom would. 520 00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:45,570 But with me, it was like... 521 00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:48,340 [sniffles] 522 00:27:48,370 --> 00:27:50,870 It was like I always did something wrong. 523 00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,300 I was seven years old. 524 00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:55,840 And I was just trying to be a normal kid. 525 00:27:56,770 --> 00:27:58,270 And it was like 526 00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:03,340 in Kristine's eyes I was doing something wrong, every step I took. 527 00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:11,900 Honestly, I can't even remember if she even said "I love you" to me. 528 00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:16,570 [Karas] Kristine and Natalia are not bonding. 529 00:28:17,540 --> 00:28:19,470 They don't like each other. 530 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:23,140 And Natalia is going to cost Kristine 531 00:28:23,170 --> 00:28:26,400 what seems to be the one thing she cares about most. 532 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,370 Money. 533 00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:34,570 [Natalia] I do believe that the Barnetts 534 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,670 probably did want me in the beginning. 535 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:40,240 But I think only once they'd actually seen me, 536 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,070 and they'd seen my disabilities, 537 00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,670 I think it kinda was just like, 538 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:49,870 "Well, maybe, like, we can't. Like, maybe we can't." 539 00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:51,540 But the thing is though, 540 00:28:51,570 --> 00:28:53,470 if you felt like you couldn't, 541 00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:56,700 why didn't you send me back? 542 00:28:56,740 --> 00:28:59,840 Or maybe even try to find somebody that did want me 543 00:28:59,870 --> 00:29:02,740 and maybe I could have been in a safer place. 544 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,340 Instead of trying to feel like, 545 00:29:06,370 --> 00:29:08,170 "Oh, we gotta keep this reputation. 546 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,870 This is a little girl with dwarfism, 547 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:11,700 who has so many special needs, 548 00:29:11,740 --> 00:29:12,740 so, you know we gotta keep her. 549 00:29:12,770 --> 00:29:14,270 Just so that way people will be like, 550 00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:16,040 'Hey, why did you send her back?'" 551 00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:20,640 I think it was because they were just trying to keep a good reputation. 552 00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:23,900 Kristine's plan is failing. 553 00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:26,270 Not only is Natalia not a genius, 554 00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:28,740 but she costs a lot. 555 00:29:28,770 --> 00:29:31,900 In fact, she's a financial drain on Kristine. 556 00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:35,700 She's not a genius. She's not the next spark. 557 00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:39,170 Kristine wants to get rid of Natalia. 558 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,540 But we also know that she's made a half a million dollars 559 00:29:42,570 --> 00:29:45,300 on her image as Supermom. 560 00:29:45,340 --> 00:29:48,800 So how is she supposed to get rid of 561 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,040 this child she adopted, 562 00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:52,270 who is disabled, 563 00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:53,700 and still preserve her image? 564 00:29:55,670 --> 00:29:58,400 And so, it seems like Natalia is now 565 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,400 the invisible daughter. 566 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,840 And Kristine is trying to erase her from the family. 567 00:30:05,370 --> 00:30:08,470 [Starbuck] The Sparkwas being written and published 568 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,440 while Natalia was part of the family. 569 00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:12,600 The initial drafts 570 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,840 talked about the family's adoption of Natalia. 571 00:30:15,870 --> 00:30:18,370 But the final book, 572 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,270 the ghostwriter Laura Tucker, 573 00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:23,500 she was told to take all mentions of adoption, 574 00:30:23,540 --> 00:30:24,940 dwarf or dwarfism, 575 00:30:24,970 --> 00:30:27,000 and Natalia, out of the book. 576 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,070 The final book does not mention Natalia in any way, shape or form. 577 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:37,370 [Natalia] I do believe that Kristine did try to hide me from the world. 578 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,500 [children chattering indistinctly] 579 00:30:42,740 --> 00:30:46,070 One time, we went to the park across the street. 580 00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:49,900 She put me in the stroller and she had a blanket over me. 581 00:30:53,770 --> 00:30:56,770 And the boys got to go play and everything like that. 582 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,070 I was stuck in the stroller. 583 00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:05,400 Someone came by and was like, 584 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,500 "Does she wanna go out and play and stuff?" 585 00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:08,640 "Oh, no she's sleeping." 586 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,800 When I'm like wide awake. I'm hearing everything, 587 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000 wanting to go play. 588 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,740 She's literally lying to people and saying, "Oh, she's sleeping." 589 00:31:22,140 --> 00:31:25,540 She didn't want people to know that I existed. 590 00:31:25,570 --> 00:31:27,970 I felt like I was this problem child. 591 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,400 She just, like, flat out hated me. 592 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,600 I do not believe Kristine should have that title of "World's Greatest Mom." 593 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,900 Because she was never the "World's Greatest Mom" to me. 594 00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:43,940 [Rachel Ambler] I saw a difference in Kristine 595 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,800 with Natalia. 596 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:48,800 Her pride that she had for her boys 597 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,340 wasn't the same pride that she had for her. 598 00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:56,170 I almost feel like she was locking herself in the house, 599 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,700 with Natalia 600 00:31:58,170 --> 00:31:59,670 trying to fix her. 601 00:32:00,270 --> 00:32:02,370 Make her like Kristine wanted. 602 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,340 And Natalia's a stubborn girl. 603 00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:10,270 [Karas] It seems, at this point, 604 00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:14,370 Kristine cannot admit that she's a failure as a parent. 605 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,370 Kristine was hell-bent on protecting her brand and her business. 606 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,200 And when one plan failed, 607 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,500 she concocted another one. 608 00:32:22,540 --> 00:32:24,840 That's how her mind worked. 609 00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:29,000 Kristine turned Natalia into a puppet she could control. 610 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,370 She needed complete control 611 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,300 over everything that Natalia said and did. 612 00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:38,300 [Natalia] I don't remember exactly when Kristine started 613 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:39,870 trying to make me look like an adult. 614 00:32:40,470 --> 00:32:42,170 She just started telling me 615 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,400 "You're older than what you're saying." 616 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,500 I didn't understand what that meant. 617 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:48,540 And then, she was like, 618 00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:50,940 "You need to start saying that you're 22." 619 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,670 I didn't understand why she wanted me to tell people 620 00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:55,940 I was 22. 621 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,900 [Maxwell] The Barnetts 622 00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:03,040 were looking for a disabled child 623 00:33:03,070 --> 00:33:04,540 to groom a certain way. 624 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,770 Kristine Barnett appeared to be 625 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,440 the primary motivator 626 00:33:11,470 --> 00:33:15,400 of the plan to get rid of Natalia. 627 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,040 Natalia was, in fact, going to perpetuate 628 00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:22,200 the idea that she's older, 629 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,500 at the age where she could live independently. 630 00:33:26,540 --> 00:33:29,970 This is the best scenario that Kristine Barnett could come up with 631 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,400 and save face. 632 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:34,940 I have seen a lot of people 633 00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:37,040 trying to brainwash their child 634 00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:39,470 to speak their lies for them, 635 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:41,140 to create the illusion 636 00:33:41,170 --> 00:33:42,900 that something is real, 637 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:45,700 when, in fact, it's just a made-up story. 638 00:33:45,740 --> 00:33:48,670 And the child becomes that story. 639 00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:50,270 That fake story. 640 00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:53,140 Kristine Barnett wants her daughter 641 00:33:53,170 --> 00:33:55,500 talking about herself as a 22-year-old. 642 00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:57,570 She wants the doctors to hear it. 643 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,140 She wants all the authorities to hear 644 00:34:00,170 --> 00:34:02,540 the story that she's come up with. 645 00:34:02,570 --> 00:34:05,100 And she was gonna do whatever it took 646 00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:07,140 to break Natalia down. 647 00:34:07,170 --> 00:34:10,469 And she had to really employ drastic measures. 648 00:34:13,139 --> 00:34:16,100 [Natalia] Everybody thought Kristine was this amazing mom, 649 00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:18,139 who loved having special needs kids, 650 00:34:18,170 --> 00:34:20,469 who loved helping people, and everything. 651 00:34:22,139 --> 00:34:25,969 But they don't know what Kristine actually did. 652 00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:29,600 Kristine was the one that beat me. 653 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,969 [in broken whisper] Michael watched me... 654 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,600 get beat. 655 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,239 [in normal voice] Three times he watched me get beat, 656 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,100 and didn't do anything. 657 00:34:45,370 --> 00:34:46,840 [in broken whisper] Why would you... 658 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,240 Why are we here, Michael? 659 00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:09,140 Why are we here? That's... That's... 660 00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:12,700 Well, if you're talking philosophically... 661 00:35:12,740 --> 00:35:14,400 No, like, I wanna know 662 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,600 why did you adopt me in the first place. 663 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:22,570 [shouts] Why? 664 00:35:26,070 --> 00:35:28,940 Many of these questions, there's not gonna be a single answer to. 665 00:35:28,970 --> 00:35:30,740 Look. 666 00:35:30,770 --> 00:35:33,500 I've learned recently, you and I had the same monster. 667 00:35:35,970 --> 00:35:37,300 And... 668 00:35:38,140 --> 00:35:39,940 We are here... 669 00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:41,370 [sighs] 670 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,940 because we both 671 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,740 were incredible victims 672 00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:52,070 of an otherworldly type of abuse. 673 00:35:53,970 --> 00:35:55,900 Okay, first... 674 00:35:55,940 --> 00:35:57,500 I'm gonna say, please don't cuss. 675 00:35:58,370 --> 00:36:00,270 I'll do my best. I... I... 676 00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:03,240 I speak a certain way. I'll do my best. 677 00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:06,400 Second, what do you mean by you were a victim? 678 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,400 Oh, God. [laughs] 679 00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:10,670 This is all stuff you don't know. 680 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,300 Well, you wanna elaborate? 681 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:16,340 Yeah, I do. You wanna give me time to do it? 682 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,540 This is not easy. 683 00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:22,900 [Michael sighs] 684 00:36:26,270 --> 00:36:27,700 I... 685 00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:30,540 had the same monster you did. 686 00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:33,670 I was exceptionally controlled 687 00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:35,170 and put down, 688 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,370 and threatened. 689 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,470 Was minimalized. 690 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,770 Anything that was who I was, was ripped from me. 691 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,200 And I was guided and instructed to 692 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:45,900 be exactly what 693 00:36:47,070 --> 00:36:48,500 she wanted me to be. 694 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,300 What do you mean by "threatened"? 695 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,500 [exhales] 696 00:36:52,540 --> 00:36:53,940 Um... 697 00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:56,670 Her favorite threat was 698 00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:58,370 taking the boys away from me 699 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,070 and making sure I would never see them ever again. 700 00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:03,900 -Um... -Why didn't you leave? 701 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,040 That's the best question ever. 702 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:08,870 I tried. 703 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:11,700 [sniffs] And this is... These answers are not gonna be 704 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:14,640 what you're looking for, to a degree, but... 705 00:37:14,670 --> 00:37:17,770 I tried to leave her no less than 10 times. 706 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,470 I ended up in a hospital 707 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,500 regularly over it. 708 00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:23,970 Why did you marry her? 709 00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:34,340 -I'm sorry? -Let's not use curse words. 710 00:37:34,370 --> 00:37:38,100 I know you probably, you talk like this on a regular basis, maybe. 711 00:37:38,140 --> 00:37:40,570 But we try to keep a clean environment. 712 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,070 So let's please respect that. 713 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,140 [Michael] This is really hard. I don't-- 714 00:37:53,540 --> 00:37:55,440 That sounds crazy, right? "Don't be a Christian"? 715 00:37:55,470 --> 00:37:57,840 See, you can't impose your beliefs... 716 00:37:57,870 --> 00:38:00,200 I don't wanna have fights. 717 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:01,970 Jesus is our man, you understand that? 718 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,340 [Terrance] Guys, it's okay. 719 00:38:03,370 --> 00:38:04,800 [Antwon] God is in control. 720 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,070 -Do you understand this? -Guys, I'm out. 721 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:07,600 -[Terrance] I ask this... -[Antwon] God is in control. 722 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,700 -No, no. That's it. -[Terrance] We're not. We'll not do anything. 723 00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:11,700 -Michael... -I tried. I tried. 724 00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:15,600 -Okay, enough. -I tried. I tried. I tried. I tried. I tried. 725 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,100 I tried. I tried. 726 00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:21,100 And I tried. And I tried to get rid of that mug and... 727 00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:23,640 And I'm trying to talk to her so that I can fix this. 728 00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:25,040 -[Antwon] Let me-- Let me talk to you. -No. No. 729 00:38:25,070 --> 00:38:26,970 -Let me talk to you. Hold on a second. -No. 730 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,570 -Let me talk to you. -No. 731 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,740 -Come here for a second. -No. 732 00:38:29,770 --> 00:38:30,700 No. 733 00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:32,840 I came here to try to find... 734 00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:35,300 Let me speak to you for a second. 735 00:38:35,340 --> 00:38:37,270 -[Michael] I cannot do this. -Hold on, hold on. 736 00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:39,000 Let him do that. Let him do that. 737 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,670 I got it. I got it. 738 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,100 [Antwon] Michael, come here for a second, man. 739 00:38:44,140 --> 00:38:47,200 I'm not here to degrade you. Hey, come here. 740 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,840 -I'm not here... -God would not do to me 741 00:38:49,870 --> 00:38:51,670 what happened? Leave me alone! 742 00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:53,640 [crying] 743 00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:54,770 [Antwon] No, listen to me. 744 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,540 [Michael] If there was a God, he would let me die. 745 00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:02,570 -He would have let me die! -He don't want you to die because he loves you. 746 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,540 All I wanted was just to talk to him. 747 00:39:05,940 --> 00:39:08,240 Ask my questions. 748 00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:09,770 -God loves you. -Please get away from me. 749 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,440 I would like you to get away from me. 750 00:39:11,470 --> 00:39:13,300 -Step away from me. -All right. 751 00:39:13,340 --> 00:39:15,140 He shouldn't have talked to my dad that way. 752 00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:17,440 All my dad asked was that he didn't cuss. 753 00:39:17,470 --> 00:39:19,670 Just have some respect. 754 00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:21,940 My dad has the right to ask that. 755 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,240 Just like I do. 756 00:39:28,670 --> 00:39:30,500 I don't understand. 757 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,140 [Antwon] We're not gonna put up with no spirits up in this house though. 758 00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:40,340 Period. 759 00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:42,740 [car revving] 760 00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:44,600 [Antwon] Where we go, God's in control.