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[female reporter]
There has been another arrest
in the Mineola sex ring case.
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[male reporter] Today,
a total of six men and women
have now been arrested.
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[female reporter]
Smith County police say
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they are accused
of forcing four children,
under the age of seven,
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to perform
at a swingers' club.
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The brainwashing,
that starts
at a very young age.
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I wasn't just the only one
that was scared to speak out.
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It felt like a cult.
The fear that was
instilled into us.
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Words cannot describe
what these children
have gone through.
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There is no case here.
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This is smoke
and mirrors bull [bleep].
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You know, the defense
just don't like the fact
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that their client
got convicted
and got a life sentence.
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I mean, let's call it
what it is.
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I've called it
just a plain old
Texas frame-up.
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They basically took
my childhood from me.
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They destroyed me
and my family.
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They were guilty. 100%.
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I was told
keep your mouth shut
in this town.
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Don't make any waves.
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I made waves.
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This is taken in our driveway
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at Christmas.
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'Cause I love them so much
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and they've been so hurt.
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My husband John and I
moved from California
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to Mineola, Texas in 2004.
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That town was so adorable.
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It was fabulous.
We just fell in love.
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Mineola is a great
little Texas town.
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It's quiet, relaxed living.
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It's a conservative community.
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Most of the people in Mineola
are God-fearing people.
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I don't go to church
every Sunday,
but I'm a God-fearing man.
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The people here
are absolutely wonderful.
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Mineola people
will do anything
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to help their neighbors
here in a heartbeat.
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It's not.
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When we first went there,
it was wonderful.
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But then I started
hearing stories.
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Its nickname, by the way,
is Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Always has been.
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One day, I saw an article
in the paper.
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Oh my gosh,
this is just unbelievable.
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I didn't know we had
a swingers' club in town.
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When we heard
about the swingers' club
it was a shock.
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People said,
not in our neighborhood.
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We just couldn't believe
that a swingers' club
was here,
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'cause that's not us.
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{\an8}There was probably
maybe 10 couples,
and we played movies on the TV
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{\an8}and they all sit down
and got to
talking to each other
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and then they divided up
and whoever wanted to go
with whoever,
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that's what they did.
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We could imagine
what was going on in there,
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but we weren't part of it.
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And it wasn't illegal.
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But to put a swingers' club
around here
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is like rolling a stink bomb
into a Baptist church
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and expecting
everybody to just say,
"Oh, that's okay,"
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and keep on praying.
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For them to put it here
was just, ugh.
Make you grind your teeth.
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[Margie]
Because of the article
in the newspaper,
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as a mom, I'm concerned,
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and I'm a praying woman,
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and so we drove up
to the swingers' club.
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And we literally
raised our hands
toward that building
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and we prayed and we prayed
and we prayed
that it would get shut down.
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Right after that,
it closed down.
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It was like it went boom.
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It was here one day
and gone the next.
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[Margie] I was elated.
They don't belong
in this town.
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My husband, John, and I,
we're Baptist.
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I accepted Christ
when I was 12 years old
as my savior.
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In California,
I went to college.
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I got my administration
in early childhood development.
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And I passed it
with flying colors.
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And so I became a foster mom.
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When I started taking
foster children,
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they were very troubled.
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And I had made a promise,
don't give up on them.
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And that's what drove me.
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At one point, I was the mother
of 15 teenagers at one time
in the house.
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We loved it.
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But it was so hard.
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And so in 2004,
we decided we could retire,
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pay off a house,
and just start relaxing.
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And that's when we
bought the house
on Lake Brenda in Mineola.
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It was right on the lake.
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Just fish and retire,
that was our goal.
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At the time,
we had six children
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but then my son said,
"You know,
you're such a good mom."
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"Go help at least
one or two more kids."
And so I did.
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{\an8}And I was given Hunter,
Shelby and Carly,
to be my kids.
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Before Margie's,
in the beginning,
we were just kids.
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It was fun, we were happy.
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[singing]
Happy birthday to you.
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I loved my cap guns.
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Used to play
Cowboys and Indians
with my older sister.
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We used to ride bikes
with the kids down the street.
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There was nothing really
that bad about
being kids back then.
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But then things changed
in our life.
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As a child,
I don't remember my dad.
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I only remember my stepdad,
Jamie, ever being around.
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Jamie and my mom
would get into arguments.
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And sometimes,
my mom would pass out.
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As kids,
we didn't really understand
the things between them.
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And then one day, I remember
Child Services coming.
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[Margie] The reason
that we were given
by the social worker,
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why they were taken away,
was that they were neglected.
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The parents were on
crack cocaine.
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And so I took them in
because I wanted to help.
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I remember the drive
to their house.
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I was constantly asking,
so y'all live on the lake?
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Thinking they live
in the middle of this lake
that we're going to.
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And when we got there,
the house was nice.
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The door's still broke.
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Oh, wow.
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This is different.
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It is.
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Remember that table, there.
Long table.
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Carly is my little sister.
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I have always been
protective of her.
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When I was at the Cantrells',
I was very hyperactive.
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I was, like, four.
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So I was the baby.
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Everyone protected me,
including Shelby and Hunter.
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I never thought I'd be
back in the house.
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Shelby and Carly
lived in this room here.
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It actually looks
the exact same.
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Margie was fun and bubbly,
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kind of the mother
type of personality
that a kid would want.
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John Cantrell's personality
was calming and laid back,
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but not as bubbly and open
like Margie was.
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John did teach us
how to fish.
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We used to watch westerns
with him.
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Well, I used to wake up
about 4:30 in the morning
before school
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and go out and fish,
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just 'cause I liked the peace,
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and fishing was also
a passion of mine.
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[Margie] Well, at the time,
life was okay.
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But they were very troubled.
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One day,
Shelby was down in the bedroom
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and she had a pole on her bed
and she was doing
a pole dance.
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This is just a little
seven-year-old girl.
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And she's swinging her hair
around and she's doing...
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it looked like
a rehearsed dance.
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Hunter was a handful.
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He was so angry and violent.
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They were extremely,
extremely hard to handle children.
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Very young
and very, very broken.
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But we had promised
to stand by these kids.
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At that point,
I had nine children
in the home.
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And so, I thought,
if we buy a facility,
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we can put the kids there
and I can run it
and have a good group home.
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So I called
our real estate agent
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and told her that I was
interested in a property
in town.
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But this building was in fact
the swingers' club.
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The lot was really large
that it sat on.
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So we decided
we were going to go up
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and see if we could see
in the windows.
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[Hunter] When Margie took me
to the swingers' club,
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she told us
that she was thinking about
buying the place.
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Last time
I was in this building,
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I think I was, like,
eight years old.
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My sisters were with me,
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John and Margie.
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It's pretty hard to be in here
considering what happened.
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[Margie] It was wet and moldy
and stunk.
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It was nasty.
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So I wouldn't let the kids
go anywhere.
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And Hunter, Shelby and I
stayed by the door.
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And then all of a sudden,
Shelby said,
"I know this place."
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"You know, if you could see
in that room over there,"
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"it has big white flowers
with green leaves."
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So I said,
"Hunter, open the door."
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She said,
"Mom, that's where
I had to dance."
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"And you see that part
that goes like this?"
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"There was a curtain on it
and Jamie was back there,"
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"and I when I danced,
I had to go back
and give him the money."
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I just froze. I just froze.
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And then Hunter,
when we were leaving, said,
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"If you look over
by the big tree,
my ball is there."
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And that baby's ball
was there.
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I called the social worker.
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She said, "Get them to
the police department
immediately."
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When I got to
the police department,
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I filled out
what had just happened.
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After I wrote
my report out,
they talked to the kids.
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{\an8}They told the police
that there was a room
called Jamie Pittman's room,
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that they did dances and acts
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and their mother, Shauntel,
would be there.
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And they said
that they were trained
in a kindergarten.
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My knowledge of a kindergarten
is kindergarten, school.
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But it wasn't.
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It was a grooming place.
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I would think
that a police department
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would go in with all barrels
and investigate.
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And then I found out
that within two days
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they closed the case.
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To just go to
Shauntel and Jamie's trailer
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and say,
"Well, didn't happen,"
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it was like
calling the children a liar.
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And they heard everything
from the kids.
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The same outcries.
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But the Mineola Police
closed it.
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How dare them?
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That put a million red flags
in my mind.
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{\an8}The first time
I heard about this case,
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{\an8}I thought, oh my God.
This is going on.
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{\an8}This incredible
child sex scandal.
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These parents
had taken these kids
to the swingers' club
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and they danced on stage
for money.
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We need to really
look into this.
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Mineola is in Wood County
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and Tyler,
which is a large city,
is very close,
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but it's in Smith County.
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There is a real difference
in Smith County
law enforcement
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as opposed to
Wood County law enforcement.
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All counties in Texas
are very conservative
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when it comes
to law and order,
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but no county
is more conservative
than Smith County.
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It has a long-time reputation
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for throwing the book
at criminals,
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for prosecuting hard,
for investigating hard,
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for having a very high
conviction rate.
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And so when
the Mineola Police Department
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didn't pursue
the investigation any further,
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Margie wanted something done
about it.
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If the Mineola cops
weren't going to
listen to her,
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she was going to find somebody
who would.
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So Margie decides
to go to Smith County.
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And the Smith County
DA's office had
an assistant district attorney
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who handled nothing but
child cases
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and her name was
Tiffany Wickel.
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She had been part of the team
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that had taken
Hunter and Shelby
away from their mother.
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So when she heard
about what Margie was saying,
she became very alarmed.
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[Margie] She came to
the Mineola police department
and basically tore them up.
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Listen to these outcries
of these children
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and what is going on.
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[Michael]
And within two weeks,
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Tiffany Wickel had brought in
Texas Ranger Phillip Kemp.
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[Margie] Tiffany called me
and said,
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"You need to bring
the children to Smith County"
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"because the Texas Ranger
wants to come
and meet the children."
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Ranger Kemp was very nice.
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He was very good
with the children.
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And he said, "And all I
want you to do
is just be there,"
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"comfort them, you know,"
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"walk them through it,
you know, it's okay."
That's what mommies do.
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When I first met Ranger Kemp,
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he came in with a cowboy hat
and a gun.
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Cowboy looking dude.
Sheriff looking guy
from a Western or something.
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It was a little more exciting
than I'd probably
like to admit.
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It's a bit confusing,
the folks involved in this.
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And let me start at the top
with the eldest
of all the people involved,
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which is Shelia Sones.
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And Shelia
is Carly's grandmother.
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{\an8}[Michael] Carly's grandmother,
Shelia, was married to Jimmy.
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[Michael] Booger Red was
the nickname of Patrick Kelly.
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He was friends with
Shauntel and Jamie
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and they'd hang out together
at his trailer in Tyler.
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And it was in this trailer
where, apparently,
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the sex kindergarten
had taken place.
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Ranger Kemp's investigation
uncovered a sex kindergarten
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in Tyler
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run by Shelia, Jimmy,
Jamie Pittman, Booger Red
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and Shauntel.
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These kids had been indoctrinated
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into this sex kindergarten
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and then they had come up
to Mineola
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and they had danced onstage
for money.
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In these interviews,
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these kids increasingly told
more and more things
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about what happened.
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[Gabby] This was one of
the last times
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I actually ever saw
my parents
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before I went
into foster care.
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{\an8}My parents were Shelia Sones
and Jimmy Sones.
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{\an8}Shauntel is my sister.
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{\an8}And Jamie Pittman was
Shauntel's boyfriend.
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{\an8}Shauntel has three children,
the oldest being Shelby,
283
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{\an8}the middle being Hunter
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{\an8}and then the youngest
is Carly.
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{\an8}I considered them
my siblings.
286
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{\an8}We were the same age.
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{\an8}We didn't have
the relationship of
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{\an8}"Oh, that's my niece."
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{\an8}It was more than that.
We were raised together.
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And we called each other
brother and sister
all the time,
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but they got to live together
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and I didn't
get to be with them.
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And I never understood that.
294
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[school bell ringing]
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I was seven years old.
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I was in gym class
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and I remember them calling me
over the intercom
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to come to
the principal's office.
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So, you know,
I'm sittin' here thinking
I did something wrong.
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So, I went to
the principal's office
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and that's when a CPS worker
came to pick me up.
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She took me to
the Child Advocacy Center.
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That's when
all of the questioning
with Ranger Kemp started.
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[Gabby] My first impression of
Ranger Kemp
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was a little intimidated.
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He was a big man
with a gun and a badge.
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And he had a presence
about him
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that, yeah,
he was soft and easygoing,
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but it was also like...
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demanded respect.
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{\an8}Shortly thereafter, Kemp
brings the first indictment
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{\an8}to a Smith County grand Jury
on Shelia Sones.
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And in short order,
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Shelia is arrested,
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Gabby's put into foster care
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and then,
not long after that,
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Jimmy,
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Booger Red,
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Jamie Pittman
320
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and Shauntel
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are also arrested.
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And the another man,
Dennis Pittman.
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00:26:55,143 --> 00:26:57,613
He wasn't related
to Jamie Pittman,
324
00:26:57,613 --> 00:26:59,813
but he was friends
with Shauntel and Jamie.
325
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This was huge news right away.
326
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{\an8}[Tamara] Mineola was such
a big part of my childhood.
327
00:27:08,643 --> 00:27:10,643
{\an8}So I was assigned that case.
328
00:27:11,373 --> 00:27:12,913
{\an8}It was a huge story.
329
00:27:12,913 --> 00:27:15,373
You know, as a reporter,
you try to remain impartial,
330
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but the personal side of me,
331
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I was really upset about it.
332
00:27:18,913 --> 00:27:20,273
It blew our minds.
333
00:27:20,273 --> 00:27:23,343
It was just insanity,
the things that we heard.
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00:27:26,113 --> 00:27:28,643
So I was very thankful
that Smith County
335
00:27:28,643 --> 00:27:29,973
actually stepped up
to the plate.
336
00:27:29,973 --> 00:27:31,813
They did something
that Wood County wouldn't do.
337
00:27:34,173 --> 00:27:36,543
The public was outraged.
338
00:27:36,543 --> 00:27:38,973
People in the community
thought these parents
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00:27:38,973 --> 00:27:41,743
were the lowest-type people
on the earth.
340
00:27:43,543 --> 00:27:45,343
What they did
was unforgivable.
341
00:27:50,073 --> 00:27:52,713
We heard they were grooming
the underage kids.
342
00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:54,173
We were really, really shocked
343
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:55,713
about what was happening
in that town.
344
00:27:55,713 --> 00:27:56,813
And they kept it
such a secret
345
00:27:58,073 --> 00:28:00,513
that no one in town
knew anything about it.
346
00:28:01,543 --> 00:28:03,913
I first learned about it
in Iraq.
347
00:28:03,913 --> 00:28:06,413
It was published in
the Stars and Stripes there.
348
00:28:07,343 --> 00:28:10,073
And in bold,
"Mineola Swinger's Club"
349
00:28:10,073 --> 00:28:13,173
and described
a big criminal case
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00:28:13,173 --> 00:28:14,783
about people
molesting children,
351
00:28:14,783 --> 00:28:18,373
having them perform
on a pole
352
00:28:18,373 --> 00:28:19,643
and perform sex acts.
353
00:28:31,073 --> 00:28:33,813
[Michael]
I had never been to Mineola
before I worked on this story.
354
00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:36,073
You feel like you are
going back in time.
355
00:28:37,513 --> 00:28:39,643
You see the two sides
of the tracks
356
00:28:39,643 --> 00:28:41,373
where you literally
cross the railroad tracks
357
00:28:41,373 --> 00:28:43,713
and you are on
the poor side of town.
358
00:28:45,713 --> 00:28:48,883
Trailer parks are everywhere.
They're communities.
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{\an8}They're like little villages,
little hamlets
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{\an8}on the outskirts of town.
361
00:28:54,073 --> 00:28:57,013
However, John and Margie
lived in a house
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00:28:57,013 --> 00:29:00,343
on that little lake
just north of town.
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00:29:01,413 --> 00:29:02,813
From what I've seen,
364
00:29:02,813 --> 00:29:05,343
they were, at first,
welcomed with open arms.
365
00:29:05,343 --> 00:29:07,543
They were
conservative Christians.
366
00:29:07,543 --> 00:29:10,783
They were career foster
parents back in California.
367
00:29:10,783 --> 00:29:13,913
They were career foster
parents here in Texas.
368
00:29:13,913 --> 00:29:16,883
They had their hearts
in the right place.
369
00:29:16,883 --> 00:29:19,883
{\an8}When I met Margie,
the first ten seconds,
370
00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:22,343
{\an8}she comes across
as very personable.
371
00:29:23,543 --> 00:29:27,713
And somewhere around
the 15-minute mark,
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00:29:27,713 --> 00:29:28,913
you begin to understand
373
00:29:28,913 --> 00:29:31,073
you're never gonna get
a word in edgewise.
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00:29:31,883 --> 00:29:34,713
And then, uh,
at the 30-minute mark,
375
00:29:34,713 --> 00:29:36,713
you've heard
about all you wanna hear.
376
00:29:36,713 --> 00:29:39,713
That was kind of
my introduction to Margie.
377
00:29:42,973 --> 00:29:45,243
One day, my news director
really pushed me
378
00:29:45,243 --> 00:29:47,443
{\an8}to go and talk
to Margie Cantrell.
379
00:29:47,443 --> 00:29:48,783
{\an8}And I thought there's no way
380
00:29:48,783 --> 00:29:50,713
{\an8}that this woman is
actually going to talk.
381
00:29:53,613 --> 00:29:55,973
But we went out
to Lake Brenda.
382
00:29:59,643 --> 00:30:03,173
Lake Brenda is one of the
nicest areas in East Texas.
383
00:30:05,813 --> 00:30:08,273
And I went up to Margie's door
and knocked,
384
00:30:08,273 --> 00:30:09,613
and to my surprise,
385
00:30:09,613 --> 00:30:11,143
she opened the door
386
00:30:11,643 --> 00:30:13,443
and she welcomed us in.
387
00:30:13,443 --> 00:30:15,713
I remember their house
was so beautiful.
388
00:30:15,713 --> 00:30:16,813
I mean, it was huge.
389
00:30:16,813 --> 00:30:18,613
These children had lived
in a trailer
390
00:30:18,613 --> 00:30:20,643
and now they had
this beautiful house.
391
00:30:20,643 --> 00:30:22,713
And it felt like it was just
392
00:30:22,713 --> 00:30:25,373
this perfect portrait
of a home.
393
00:30:25,373 --> 00:30:28,273
I sit down on the couch
and John was there,
394
00:30:28,273 --> 00:30:31,173
but he was just
quietly in the background.
395
00:30:31,173 --> 00:30:32,543
He just didn't say a lot.
396
00:30:32,543 --> 00:30:34,173
I did try to talk to him
a few times,
397
00:30:34,173 --> 00:30:35,913
but you just couldn't
get anything out of him.
398
00:30:35,913 --> 00:30:38,143
He was pretty much like
a wall in a lot of ways.
399
00:30:39,443 --> 00:30:43,143
Whereas Margie was
so engaging and personable.
400
00:30:44,073 --> 00:30:45,973
All of times,
in those kinds of situations,
401
00:30:45,973 --> 00:30:48,243
you do everything you can
to pull something out
402
00:30:48,243 --> 00:30:49,343
and gain trust
403
00:30:49,343 --> 00:30:51,173
and want somebody to
open up to you,
404
00:30:51,173 --> 00:30:53,273
but she was so open
405
00:30:53,273 --> 00:30:55,173
about everything
the children had been through
406
00:30:55,173 --> 00:30:57,273
and how terrible this was.
407
00:30:57,883 --> 00:30:58,973
I became thankful
408
00:30:58,973 --> 00:31:01,073
that this woman was
helping these children.
409
00:31:06,413 --> 00:31:08,013
And leading up to the trial,
410
00:31:08,013 --> 00:31:10,373
I remember it feeling
almost like a Super Bowl
411
00:31:10,373 --> 00:31:12,883
because there was just
so much tension.
412
00:31:14,013 --> 00:31:15,073
The heartbeat of the town
413
00:31:15,073 --> 00:31:16,913
was that finally
these children
414
00:31:16,913 --> 00:31:18,173
were going to get justice,
415
00:31:18,173 --> 00:31:19,543
and finally
these defendants
416
00:31:19,543 --> 00:31:21,813
were gonna be
put away forever.
417
00:31:32,413 --> 00:31:33,783
The 36-year-old Pittman
418
00:31:33,783 --> 00:31:35,813
is accused of forcing
young children
419
00:31:35,813 --> 00:31:37,643
under the age of seven
420
00:31:37,643 --> 00:31:40,543
to have sex with each other
and adults.
421
00:31:41,913 --> 00:31:43,273
[Michael]
Jack Skeen is the judge.
422
00:31:43,273 --> 00:31:47,073
You did not mess around
with crime in Smith County
423
00:31:47,073 --> 00:31:49,813
because Jack Skeen
would go after you.
424
00:31:51,173 --> 00:31:54,643
Matt Bingham is
the elected district attorney
of Smith County.
425
00:31:54,643 --> 00:31:58,173
Am I an aggressive prosecutor
of crimes against children?
426
00:31:58,173 --> 00:31:59,443
You better believe it.
427
00:31:59,443 --> 00:32:02,273
[Michael] And he gave one of
his trusted guys, Joe Murphy,
428
00:32:02,273 --> 00:32:03,713
the lead on this case.
429
00:32:03,713 --> 00:32:05,013
Words cannot describe
430
00:32:05,013 --> 00:32:07,913
what these children
have gone through.
431
00:32:07,913 --> 00:32:09,543
Uh, words cannot describe
432
00:32:09,543 --> 00:32:12,813
the actions of
not only Jamie Pittman,
433
00:32:12,813 --> 00:32:15,543
but all the other people that
are involved in this case.
434
00:32:15,543 --> 00:32:17,543
I sat in the courtroom
every single day
435
00:32:17,543 --> 00:32:20,173
and the mood was very tense.
436
00:32:21,443 --> 00:32:22,373
Margie was in the courtroom.
437
00:32:22,373 --> 00:32:24,073
You know,
she was a big part of--
438
00:32:24,073 --> 00:32:26,643
I say the word "spectacle"
and I hate to even say that,
439
00:32:26,643 --> 00:32:28,143
but that's what it was
in a lot of ways.
440
00:32:28,143 --> 00:32:29,813
Exhibit number 20.
441
00:32:29,813 --> 00:32:31,543
What is this?
442
00:32:31,543 --> 00:32:32,913
[Michael] During the trial,
443
00:32:32,913 --> 00:32:35,643
Ranger Kemp came in
and testified.
444
00:32:37,073 --> 00:32:38,613
And do all
these outcries match?
445
00:32:38,613 --> 00:32:39,543
Yes, they do.
446
00:32:39,543 --> 00:32:40,813
Not only do you have that,
447
00:32:40,813 --> 00:32:43,813
do you have the existence
of a swingers club?
448
00:32:43,813 --> 00:32:44,713
Yes, you do.
449
00:32:44,713 --> 00:32:46,973
[Michael]
He was entirely unflappable.
450
00:32:46,973 --> 00:32:50,013
He was very calm
and very cool.
451
00:32:51,643 --> 00:32:54,273
And they showed the
interviews with the children.
452
00:33:05,783 --> 00:33:09,173
[Michael]
The prosecution's case was
the testimony of the children.
453
00:33:09,643 --> 00:33:11,413
So they all testified.
454
00:33:16,173 --> 00:33:17,273
[Tamara] They would open
the doors
455
00:33:17,273 --> 00:33:18,713
and the kids would
just come out
456
00:33:18,713 --> 00:33:21,273
and they were just
so adorable.
457
00:33:23,813 --> 00:33:26,373
You just couldn't imagine
what they went through.
458
00:33:27,173 --> 00:33:29,443
The girl worked here.
459
00:33:29,443 --> 00:33:32,073
On the stand, she testified
of what it looked like,
460
00:33:32,073 --> 00:33:34,243
describing the flowers
on the wall,
461
00:33:34,243 --> 00:33:35,973
saying it's
what she would look at
462
00:33:35,973 --> 00:33:38,543
while being raped
night after night.
463
00:33:39,713 --> 00:33:44,073
They said, in return,
they got to eat dinner.
464
00:33:47,243 --> 00:33:48,343
[Gabby]
During the first trial,
465
00:33:48,343 --> 00:33:50,343
I was maybe seven,
maybe eight.
466
00:33:50,343 --> 00:33:52,643
I was stressed out.
467
00:33:52,643 --> 00:33:54,173
I was full of anxiety.
468
00:33:57,883 --> 00:34:01,013
I'm looking around and I'm
seeing all of these people,
469
00:34:01,013 --> 00:34:03,713
the man in the big black robe,
470
00:34:03,713 --> 00:34:06,713
the news media was there,
there was cameras.
471
00:34:06,713 --> 00:34:09,073
It was just an
overwhelming experience.
472
00:34:10,543 --> 00:34:13,343
When I saw Jamie Pittman
sitting there,
473
00:34:13,343 --> 00:34:15,073
I remember he looked sad.
474
00:34:15,073 --> 00:34:18,813
And I remember testifying
and I...
475
00:34:20,013 --> 00:34:21,643
had no remorse.
476
00:34:28,443 --> 00:34:31,543
[Michael]
The trial of Jamie Pittman
only lasted three days.
477
00:34:32,543 --> 00:34:35,643
And the jury came to
its decision very quickly.
478
00:34:37,543 --> 00:34:39,413
When we went
into the courtroom
479
00:34:39,413 --> 00:34:41,413
to hear the verdicts,
480
00:34:42,173 --> 00:34:43,243
the kids were saying,
481
00:34:43,243 --> 00:34:46,883
"It just has to be,
it has to be, it has to be."
482
00:34:46,883 --> 00:34:50,373
They wanted this with all
their heart and soul.
483
00:34:53,543 --> 00:34:55,273
[Tamara reporting]
It took less than ten minutes
484
00:34:55,273 --> 00:34:59,813
for a Smith County jury
to find Jamie Pittman guilty.
485
00:34:59,813 --> 00:35:01,713
And the kids went, "Yes!"
486
00:35:04,273 --> 00:35:06,813
They felt very vindicated.
487
00:35:17,883 --> 00:35:19,643
[reporter] On Monday,
Pittman's girlfriend
488
00:35:19,643 --> 00:35:22,913
will be the second defendant
to face a Smith County jury.
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00:35:22,913 --> 00:35:25,443
29-year-old
Shauntel Loraine Mayo
490
00:35:25,443 --> 00:35:28,243
is charged with
child sexual abuse.
491
00:35:34,713 --> 00:35:36,783
[Tamara] Shauntel was
gonna be the big case,
492
00:35:36,783 --> 00:35:39,413
because this was the mother.
493
00:35:39,413 --> 00:35:41,413
People wanted to understand
how in the world
494
00:35:41,413 --> 00:35:44,073
this woman could
have these precious children
495
00:35:44,073 --> 00:35:46,243
and do something like this.
496
00:35:48,443 --> 00:35:50,913
My name is
Ellen Gayle Burress.
497
00:35:50,913 --> 00:35:52,813
I have a Bachelor of Arts,
498
00:35:52,813 --> 00:35:54,173
a Master's of Science
499
00:35:54,173 --> 00:35:55,643
and a PhD.
500
00:35:55,643 --> 00:35:58,443
And until
I stopped practicing,
501
00:35:58,443 --> 00:36:00,713
I was a licensed
professional counselor
502
00:36:01,813 --> 00:36:03,373
and expert witness.
503
00:36:06,143 --> 00:36:08,343
Everything I saw
about those kids
504
00:36:08,343 --> 00:36:10,073
talked to me about damage,
505
00:36:10,513 --> 00:36:11,713
about fear,
506
00:36:11,713 --> 00:36:12,643
and a couple of 'em,
507
00:36:13,013 --> 00:36:14,613
there was real...
508
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:16,443
shame.
509
00:36:16,443 --> 00:36:18,273
[prosecutor]
Were you able to determine
whether or not
510
00:36:18,273 --> 00:36:20,913
there was any type of grooming
that was involved
511
00:36:20,913 --> 00:36:22,643
with these children?
512
00:36:22,643 --> 00:36:25,813
Well, obviously, kindergarten
was the grooming spot,
513
00:36:25,813 --> 00:36:30,643
in terms of getting them ready
to do in front of others
514
00:36:30,643 --> 00:36:32,543
what they wanted them to do.
515
00:36:32,543 --> 00:36:34,073
They had to teach them
to dance.
516
00:36:34,073 --> 00:36:36,073
They had to teach them
to touch each other
517
00:36:36,073 --> 00:36:37,343
and masturbate
518
00:36:37,343 --> 00:36:39,413
and take off their clothes
519
00:36:39,413 --> 00:36:41,173
and act sexy,
520
00:36:41,173 --> 00:36:44,443
because 5-year-olds
don't act sexy.
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00:36:46,543 --> 00:36:48,913
[Gabby] By the time that
it had gotten to my sister
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00:36:48,913 --> 00:36:49,973
Shauntel's trial,
523
00:36:49,973 --> 00:36:52,713
I had already been questioned
a million times.
524
00:36:52,713 --> 00:36:55,543
I had already gone over
the testimony a million times.
525
00:36:55,543 --> 00:36:57,073
I was tired of it.
526
00:36:57,073 --> 00:36:59,073
I was-- I was ready to quit.
527
00:36:59,073 --> 00:37:00,783
I didn't wanna do it anymore.
528
00:37:00,783 --> 00:37:04,543
But, you know, I still kept
being hounded with
529
00:37:04,543 --> 00:37:06,413
"Well, you have to do this.
You have to do this.
530
00:37:06,413 --> 00:37:08,173
You have to get justice
for the others."
531
00:37:09,173 --> 00:37:10,443
[Tamara] When Gabby
took the stand,
532
00:37:10,443 --> 00:37:11,783
she admitted that, yes,
533
00:37:11,783 --> 00:37:14,913
that she had been to
the Mineola swingers club.
534
00:37:14,913 --> 00:37:17,173
And she said that she took
"silly pills" there,
535
00:37:17,173 --> 00:37:19,443
she went to kindergarten,
that she performed
536
00:37:19,443 --> 00:37:22,273
and she identified
her own sister, Shauntel,
537
00:37:22,273 --> 00:37:23,883
as being someone
that took her there.
538
00:37:27,243 --> 00:37:30,173
[Gabby] I remember
my sister sitting there
539
00:37:30,173 --> 00:37:32,013
by her lawyer
and she was just bawling.
540
00:37:32,013 --> 00:37:33,073
She was just--
541
00:37:36,413 --> 00:37:37,783
[voice breaking]
542
00:37:37,783 --> 00:37:39,273
She was just crying.
543
00:37:40,143 --> 00:37:42,013
And I still remember...
544
00:37:42,713 --> 00:37:44,143
not caring.
545
00:37:56,373 --> 00:37:58,013
[Hunter] Seeing my mom
in the courtroom,
546
00:37:58,013 --> 00:38:01,473
I'm not even sure
I recognized her.
547
00:38:57,843 --> 00:39:00,943
I ask you to find her guilty
of what she's guilty of,
548
00:39:00,943 --> 00:39:04,213
engaging in organized
criminal activity for profit
549
00:39:04,213 --> 00:39:06,473
with her own children.
550
00:39:06,473 --> 00:39:09,013
The jury deliberated
for two hours.
551
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:10,373
[foreperson] We, the jury,
552
00:39:10,373 --> 00:39:12,573
find the defendant,
Shauntel Mayo,
553
00:39:12,573 --> 00:39:14,213
guilty of the offence.
554
00:39:14,213 --> 00:39:16,013
It was guilty right away.
555
00:39:37,473 --> 00:39:39,313
[Hunter] When the verdicts
were read out,
556
00:39:39,313 --> 00:39:42,013
we had absolutely
no emotion, you know.
557
00:39:42,013 --> 00:39:47,373
It wasn't as if they were
really a family to us anymore.
558
00:39:51,843 --> 00:39:54,013
[Tamara] When Shauntel Mayo
was found guilty,
559
00:39:54,013 --> 00:39:55,643
it was a relief
for a lot of people.
560
00:39:55,643 --> 00:39:58,013
I think a lot of people
were thankful
561
00:39:58,013 --> 00:39:59,843
and that these bad people
562
00:39:59,843 --> 00:40:01,313
who did these
horrible things to kids
563
00:40:01,313 --> 00:40:02,843
were gonna be locked away.
564
00:40:05,373 --> 00:40:08,273
[reporter] News from the
Mineola Swingers Club case.
565
00:40:08,273 --> 00:40:11,473
Jury selection for the trial
of Patrick "Booger Red" Kelly,
566
00:40:11,473 --> 00:40:13,943
a friend of Shauntel Mayo
and Jamie Pittman,
567
00:40:13,943 --> 00:40:16,113
is due to begin early
next week.
568
00:40:22,843 --> 00:40:25,113
[Michael]
Booger Red, Patrick Kelly,
569
00:40:25,113 --> 00:40:27,713
was the one who had
the trailer where, apparently,
570
00:40:27,713 --> 00:40:30,213
the sex kindergarten
had taken place.
571
00:41:03,743 --> 00:41:06,543
So what they said is they
would first go to kindergarten
572
00:41:06,543 --> 00:41:07,843
{\an8}and get these dolls
573
00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:11,213
{\an8}and learn how to touch
themselves in different ways.
574
00:41:11,213 --> 00:41:13,443
They would put on costumes
and doctor costumes
575
00:41:13,443 --> 00:41:14,673
and would go out and perform.
576
00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:54,643
[Tamara]
The things that the kids had
said about Patrick Kelly
577
00:41:54,643 --> 00:41:55,943
were sensational
578
00:41:55,943 --> 00:41:58,573
and dominated the headlines
before the trial.
579
00:41:59,113 --> 00:42:00,843
But during jury selection,
580
00:42:00,843 --> 00:42:02,473
there was a massive bombshell.
581
00:42:04,083 --> 00:42:07,813
[Margie]
The Wood County Sheriffs
came in the front door
582
00:42:07,813 --> 00:42:10,273
and barraged
on my husband John,
583
00:42:10,273 --> 00:42:11,713
grabbed him up,
584
00:42:11,713 --> 00:42:12,843
ran him out of the house.
585
00:42:12,843 --> 00:42:14,313
We're like,
"What is going on?
586
00:42:14,313 --> 00:42:16,673
What is going on?"
587
00:42:16,673 --> 00:42:17,713
[Tamara reporting]
John Cantrell,
588
00:42:17,713 --> 00:42:19,943
a man awarded custody of
three young siblings
589
00:42:19,943 --> 00:42:22,313
who allegedly performed
at the swingers club
590
00:42:22,313 --> 00:42:25,113
was arrested in Wood County.
591
00:42:25,113 --> 00:42:28,013
They were arresting him
for molesting his daughter
592
00:42:28,013 --> 00:42:30,843
20 years ago
back in California.
593
00:42:36,913 --> 00:42:40,743
[producer]
How would you describe
John Cantrell's personality?
594
00:42:42,573 --> 00:42:45,673
[Jenna] There's a phrase.
"A wolf in sheep's clothing."
595
00:42:46,713 --> 00:42:50,213
He likes videos about
people being raped,
596
00:42:50,213 --> 00:42:51,113
and stuff like that.
597
00:42:52,183 --> 00:42:53,313
He likes little girls.
598
00:42:54,843 --> 00:42:58,013
He would make me
watch it with him.
599
00:42:58,013 --> 00:43:00,013
And when
I would close my eyes,
600
00:43:00,013 --> 00:43:01,373
"No, you need
to open your eyes.
601
00:43:01,373 --> 00:43:02,943
You need to see this."
602
00:43:02,943 --> 00:43:06,843
I would tell Margie
what had happened
603
00:43:06,843 --> 00:43:09,373
and she would say
I was a little slut.
604
00:43:09,373 --> 00:43:12,443
"It's all your fault.
It's all your fault."
605
00:43:12,443 --> 00:43:15,013
This is not true.
606
00:43:15,013 --> 00:43:17,473
It didn't happen.
607
00:43:17,473 --> 00:43:20,213
[Jenna] Margie is
a great manipulator.
608
00:43:20,213 --> 00:43:24,273
She can make herself
and make you believe
609
00:43:24,273 --> 00:43:25,373
she's right.
610
00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:29,373
And you just get brainwashed.
611
00:43:30,743 --> 00:43:32,113
She's straight evil.