1 00:00:02,375 --> 00:00:04,625 NARRATOR: Tonight on "Beyond Skinwalker Ranch"... 2 00:00:04,750 --> 00:00:07,250 The Skinwalker is a shapeshifter. 3 00:00:07,375 --> 00:00:09,667 They sacrifice somebody in their family 4 00:00:09,833 --> 00:00:11,583 that's very, very dear. 5 00:00:11,708 --> 00:00:13,792 When you say sacrifice, you-- you mean kill them? 6 00:00:13,917 --> 00:00:15,417 Kill them. Yes. 7 00:00:15,542 --> 00:00:17,375 If you go up there, you'll never come back down. 8 00:00:17,542 --> 00:00:18,917 Whoa! 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,000 This phenomenon can be deadly. 10 00:00:22,125 --> 00:00:23,833 -What was that? -What was that? 11 00:00:23,958 --> 00:00:27,917 I'm telling you guys, it's here. 12 00:00:28,042 --> 00:00:29,833 It's definitely here. 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 ♪ 14 00:00:32,083 --> 00:00:34,417 For years, scientists have been working 15 00:00:34,542 --> 00:00:37,667 to reveal the secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. 16 00:00:37,833 --> 00:00:42,333 But is it possible that the clues to unlock the mystery 17 00:00:42,458 --> 00:00:46,667 are located beyond the borders of this hub of high strangeness? 18 00:00:46,792 --> 00:00:48,125 -Now... -Whoa. 19 00:00:49,417 --> 00:00:51,333 ...an ex-CIA agent and a veteran journalist 20 00:00:51,500 --> 00:00:54,000 have been recruited by the Skinwalker team 21 00:00:54,125 --> 00:00:57,000 to go on a high-stakes mission across America. 22 00:00:57,125 --> 00:00:58,167 Look at all this activity that's happened. 23 00:00:58,250 --> 00:00:59,750 -That's unbelievable. -Oh, my gosh. 24 00:00:59,875 --> 00:01:01,500 Look at that. Look at that, look at that, look at that. 25 00:01:03,083 --> 00:01:06,458 The goal--uncover evidence that may finally expose the truth. 26 00:01:06,542 --> 00:01:08,083 -What is that thing? -It's getting more intense. 27 00:01:08,208 --> 00:01:09,708 Ever seen anything like this before? 28 00:01:09,833 --> 00:01:10,667 No. 29 00:01:10,833 --> 00:01:13,167 ♪ 30 00:01:13,333 --> 00:01:14,625 This is just the beginning. 31 00:01:14,708 --> 00:01:16,417 ♪♪ 32 00:01:16,542 --> 00:01:19,333 Gentlemen, it's great to have you back on the ranch. 33 00:01:19,458 --> 00:01:21,500 I know Erik and I can't wait for you to tell us 34 00:01:21,625 --> 00:01:22,917 what you've got today. 35 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:25,042 Well, I think this one has-- has a particularly 36 00:01:25,167 --> 00:01:27,458 kind of a special tie-in to Skinwalker 37 00:01:27,583 --> 00:01:31,667 'cause we are going to, really, the heart of Skinwalker country. 38 00:01:31,833 --> 00:01:34,000 Now, you guys know Jon Dover? Oh, yes, very well. 39 00:01:34,167 --> 00:01:36,042 Been a friend of your investigations here before. 40 00:01:36,125 --> 00:01:38,167 So, you know, Jon's a retired Navajo ranger 41 00:01:38,250 --> 00:01:39,625 and has been doing investigations 42 00:01:39,708 --> 00:01:41,167 on Navajo Nation for years. 43 00:01:41,292 --> 00:01:43,667 He and his partner Stan-- they really were 44 00:01:43,792 --> 00:01:47,375 sort of the real life "X-Files" squad out there, 45 00:01:47,542 --> 00:01:49,833 running down all kinds of reports of Skinwalkers, 46 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,042 really anything paranormal, unusual. 47 00:01:52,167 --> 00:01:53,667 Now, by Navajo Nation, you're talking 48 00:01:53,792 --> 00:01:55,708 about geographically, the Navajo Nation, right? 49 00:01:55,833 --> 00:01:57,167 -Yes, sir. -Okay. 50 00:01:57,333 --> 00:01:59,167 So, I've got up on the screen here, 51 00:01:59,292 --> 00:02:01,250 Navajo Nation from a bird's-eye view. 52 00:02:01,375 --> 00:02:03,208 Now, this place is massive. 53 00:02:03,375 --> 00:02:06,208 It's the size of Connecticut in terms of square miles. 54 00:02:06,333 --> 00:02:08,208 And Jon and Stan have 55 00:02:08,375 --> 00:02:10,917 actually researched phenomenon all across the nation 56 00:02:11,042 --> 00:02:12,958 in their time as rangers. 57 00:02:13,042 --> 00:02:15,583 The idea is to go to Navajo Nation, 58 00:02:15,708 --> 00:02:17,542 pair up with Stan and Jon, 59 00:02:17,708 --> 00:02:19,917 and then get firsthand experience from them. 60 00:02:20,042 --> 00:02:21,000 What did they research? 61 00:02:21,167 --> 00:02:23,083 What data were they able to collect? 62 00:02:23,208 --> 00:02:24,875 We also are hoping to shed some more light 63 00:02:25,042 --> 00:02:27,167 onto the question of Skinwalkers. 64 00:02:27,375 --> 00:02:28,958 The topic of Skinwalkers 65 00:02:29,042 --> 00:02:32,125 is extremely taboo on all of Navajo Nation. 66 00:02:32,208 --> 00:02:33,792 It is not common to talk about them. 67 00:02:33,875 --> 00:02:35,417 It is not common to say the word. 68 00:02:35,542 --> 00:02:37,667 And saying the word carries its own kind of connotation 69 00:02:37,833 --> 00:02:39,167 among the local people. 70 00:02:39,250 --> 00:02:40,667 It's certainly taken from the purview 71 00:02:40,833 --> 00:02:42,833 of being a curse, right? 72 00:02:42,958 --> 00:02:44,500 I--you-- I've heard it said that-- 73 00:02:44,625 --> 00:02:47,667 that mention of the Skinwalker is like an invocation. 74 00:02:47,792 --> 00:02:50,833 You can actually bring the Skinwalker into your space 75 00:02:50,958 --> 00:02:53,333 by talking about that subject. 76 00:02:53,500 --> 00:02:56,167 Yeah, the whole topic of the Skinwalker 77 00:02:56,333 --> 00:02:58,583 is what has me really excited about this investigation. 78 00:02:58,708 --> 00:03:01,167 We're going into the belly of the beast 79 00:03:01,292 --> 00:03:04,958 where this myth-curse-legend started, 80 00:03:05,083 --> 00:03:08,000 and we're going with an eye towards data and science. 81 00:03:08,125 --> 00:03:09,458 -Yeah. -What can we actually collect? 82 00:03:09,542 --> 00:03:11,208 What can we record, what can we observe 83 00:03:11,375 --> 00:03:13,708 that lets us bring information 84 00:03:13,833 --> 00:03:16,208 back to Skinwalker Ranch and hopefully advance 85 00:03:16,375 --> 00:03:17,750 some of what you're seeing and researching here? 86 00:03:17,875 --> 00:03:19,208 That's absolutely fascinating, 87 00:03:19,375 --> 00:03:20,667 I think--I think it's absolutely necessary. 88 00:03:20,792 --> 00:03:22,542 That's really valuable to our investigation 89 00:03:22,667 --> 00:03:24,083 here on the ranch. 90 00:03:24,208 --> 00:03:25,750 Hey, if you guys can come back with more data 91 00:03:25,875 --> 00:03:27,583 that we can look at into that, that would be awesome. 92 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:29,333 That's the goal. 93 00:03:29,375 --> 00:03:30,333 All right, well, we'll see what we find. 94 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:33,292 ♪ 95 00:03:43,292 --> 00:03:44,917 Just a second ago, 96 00:03:45,042 --> 00:03:47,333 we were in bright sunshine, and the road was clear, 97 00:03:47,542 --> 00:03:50,333 and now we've got snowstorm blowing in over here. 98 00:03:50,500 --> 00:03:52,292 Looks like we're driving right into one. 99 00:03:52,458 --> 00:03:55,750 It's got multiple microclimates inside the Navajo Nation. 100 00:03:55,875 --> 00:03:56,875 That's right. 101 00:03:57,042 --> 00:03:58,875 I'm super excited, man, because 102 00:03:59,042 --> 00:04:01,500 every legend that we've ever heard about Skinwalkers 103 00:04:01,583 --> 00:04:03,125 starts with the Skinwalker curse, 104 00:04:03,250 --> 00:04:05,083 and this is where that Skinwalker curse 105 00:04:05,208 --> 00:04:07,125 is said to have started. -This is the opportunity 106 00:04:07,250 --> 00:04:09,208 to really get to the heart of this story. 107 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:11,208 What is the origin of the Skinwalker? 108 00:04:11,333 --> 00:04:13,125 -What are its powers? -Yeah. 109 00:04:13,250 --> 00:04:14,750 And--And how much can we measure? 110 00:04:14,875 --> 00:04:16,417 What data can we collect? 111 00:04:19,125 --> 00:04:22,083 Yeah, one of the things that I think really excites me the most 112 00:04:22,167 --> 00:04:24,250 is the access that we've got here 113 00:04:24,375 --> 00:04:26,333 and the people who have agreed to speak to us, 114 00:04:26,542 --> 00:04:28,000 because this is not something 115 00:04:28,083 --> 00:04:30,542 that the Navajo take lightly at all. 116 00:04:30,708 --> 00:04:34,292 Yeah. To have two outsiders like you and me 117 00:04:34,375 --> 00:04:37,375 come in as investigators and work side by side 118 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:41,375 with Navajo-licensed and badged law enforcement... 119 00:04:41,542 --> 00:04:42,833 -Right. -...like Stan and Jon 120 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,375 is really unprecedented. -Yeah. 121 00:04:44,542 --> 00:04:46,833 And we have eyewitnesses and interviews lined up 122 00:04:46,917 --> 00:04:49,000 with people who are going to 123 00:04:49,167 --> 00:04:50,667 openly share their Skinwalker story-- 124 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:52,333 story they can't even tell their neighbor... 125 00:04:52,417 --> 00:04:53,917 Right. -...for fear of some kind 126 00:04:54,042 --> 00:04:55,708 of social shame or worse. 127 00:04:55,875 --> 00:04:57,583 Yeah, we're gonna have to be ready kind of for anything. 128 00:04:57,708 --> 00:05:00,208 To learn more about the Skinwalker phenomena 129 00:05:00,292 --> 00:05:02,208 occurring in Navajo Nation, 130 00:05:02,333 --> 00:05:04,958 Andy and Paul arrive at No Water Mesa 131 00:05:05,083 --> 00:05:06,542 to speak with 132 00:05:06,708 --> 00:05:10,000 Navajo Rangers Jon Dover and Stan Milford. 133 00:05:10,083 --> 00:05:11,333 -How did you get involved... -Yeah. 134 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:13,875 ...in doing investigations on phenomenon 135 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,500 and high strangeness reports? 136 00:05:15,625 --> 00:05:19,708 The people that are experiencing these different phenomena, 137 00:05:19,833 --> 00:05:21,458 they're traumatized a lot of times, 138 00:05:21,583 --> 00:05:23,625 and they don't have anybody to turn to. 139 00:05:23,708 --> 00:05:25,875 The chief ranger-- he called us all in 140 00:05:26,042 --> 00:05:30,167 and basically said that, "People are asking for help, 141 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:32,083 and you're gonna provide help. 142 00:05:32,208 --> 00:05:33,500 You're gonna go out there, 143 00:05:33,583 --> 00:05:35,375 you're gonna listen to what they have to say. 144 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:37,750 From now on, when you deal with these kind of cases 145 00:05:37,875 --> 00:05:40,458 involving the supernatural or the paranormal, 146 00:05:40,542 --> 00:05:44,208 you're going to investigate it as you would any other case." 147 00:05:44,292 --> 00:05:46,750 The chief turns to Jon and I and says, 148 00:05:46,875 --> 00:05:50,000 "And you two are gonna be the ones that are gonna 149 00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:51,667 lead the investigations." 150 00:05:51,792 --> 00:05:53,542 One of the things that we're really interested 151 00:05:53,667 --> 00:05:55,167 in learning about here 152 00:05:55,333 --> 00:05:56,750 is the history of Skinwalker activity. 153 00:05:56,875 --> 00:05:58,792 Can you tell us a little bit about 154 00:05:58,917 --> 00:06:01,875 what the Navajos believe a Skinwalker is? 155 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,750 JON: The Skinwalker is a shapeshifter. 156 00:06:04,875 --> 00:06:08,333 It's somebody who's offered themselves, so to speak, 157 00:06:08,417 --> 00:06:11,958 and they sacrifice somebody in their family 158 00:06:12,125 --> 00:06:13,667 that's very, very dear, 159 00:06:13,833 --> 00:06:17,417 very loved to them in order to attain this power. 160 00:06:17,542 --> 00:06:19,958 When you say sacrifice, you-- you mean kill them? 161 00:06:20,042 --> 00:06:21,458 -Kill them, yes. -Wow. 162 00:06:21,583 --> 00:06:23,208 When this happens, 163 00:06:23,333 --> 00:06:25,833 then they're brought in to a group of people, 164 00:06:25,958 --> 00:06:29,458 and they're taught how to do this shapeshifting. 165 00:06:29,583 --> 00:06:32,375 They'll use the skins of animals. 166 00:06:32,542 --> 00:06:34,333 They can change into any animal out there 167 00:06:34,417 --> 00:06:35,958 that they have the skin of. 168 00:06:36,042 --> 00:06:40,500 Once they do, they're able to run at incredible speeds. 169 00:06:40,625 --> 00:06:44,000 So, regular people as well as law enforcement 170 00:06:44,167 --> 00:06:45,542 have seen these things personally? 171 00:06:45,708 --> 00:06:48,208 Most people out here have seen them. 172 00:06:48,333 --> 00:06:49,625 -Most people? -Most people? 173 00:06:49,750 --> 00:06:51,667 Yeah, And have had some experience with them. 174 00:06:51,750 --> 00:06:54,167 -Within their families. -Within their families. 175 00:06:54,250 --> 00:06:57,208 -Wow. -But they don't talk about it. 176 00:06:57,375 --> 00:06:59,667 The only thing that's different with us 177 00:06:59,833 --> 00:07:01,375 is we've investigated these cases, 178 00:07:01,500 --> 00:07:04,375 and we're not afraid to talk about it. 179 00:07:04,542 --> 00:07:06,167 This is exactly what we need, 180 00:07:06,292 --> 00:07:07,750 'cause we're here to gather data. 181 00:07:07,875 --> 00:07:09,750 You know, we're here to look for evidence. 182 00:07:09,875 --> 00:07:11,625 We're--We're here to try to put some facts to some 183 00:07:11,750 --> 00:07:12,833 of these stories... -Yeah. 184 00:07:12,958 --> 00:07:14,417 These things that, you know, happen 185 00:07:14,542 --> 00:07:16,333 throughout this region that seem connected 186 00:07:16,458 --> 00:07:18,708 to what we've seen at Skinwalker Ranch. 187 00:07:18,875 --> 00:07:21,000 You know, I just--I think you guys are gonna be 188 00:07:21,125 --> 00:07:22,542 the perfect guides for us to-- 189 00:07:22,667 --> 00:07:24,958 to get into this part of our-- our investigation. 190 00:07:25,042 --> 00:07:27,083 While Paul heads off with Jon and Stan 191 00:07:27,208 --> 00:07:28,833 on a ride-along to learn more 192 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,125 about Navajo Nation's Skinwalkers, 193 00:07:31,208 --> 00:07:34,667 Andy is meeting with local medicine man Art Hardy 194 00:07:34,792 --> 00:07:38,875 outside his former residence at the base of Satan's Butte, 195 00:07:39,042 --> 00:07:43,375 an area rumored to be a hotspot of Skinwalker activity. 196 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:45,917 What is this property here? 197 00:07:46,042 --> 00:07:48,542 This is a place that I used to live in years and years ago, 198 00:07:48,708 --> 00:07:50,875 back in 1992, I would say. 199 00:07:51,042 --> 00:07:55,708 That is, uh, where it takes a dark turn. 200 00:07:55,875 --> 00:07:58,500 The first encounter that I've had with a Skinwalker. 201 00:07:58,625 --> 00:07:59,708 You had an encounter here with a Skinwalker? 202 00:07:59,833 --> 00:08:01,500 Right. I-I caught one. I caught one. 203 00:08:01,583 --> 00:08:03,667 You caught one? I've got to hear this story. 204 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:06,333 I was about 17 years old. I'm all home alone. 205 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:08,667 It's probably like 8 or 9:00 at night. 206 00:08:08,708 --> 00:08:10,833 I keep seeing something moving around the window, 207 00:08:10,917 --> 00:08:12,667 and that window particularly. 208 00:08:12,750 --> 00:08:15,333 ♪ 209 00:08:15,417 --> 00:08:18,500 I go outside, turn the corner. 210 00:08:18,542 --> 00:08:20,417 Bam. Me to you, he's standing right there. 211 00:08:20,542 --> 00:08:21,708 -Just this far away. -Right. 212 00:08:21,875 --> 00:08:23,917 And I turn on a flashlight, 213 00:08:24,042 --> 00:08:26,417 and I see this thing just standing there. 214 00:08:26,542 --> 00:08:29,208 And I catch him right off guard, and it startles him. 215 00:08:29,333 --> 00:08:30,542 He actually jumps. He... 216 00:08:30,708 --> 00:08:31,958 What does he look like? 217 00:08:32,083 --> 00:08:33,917 There he is standing there with a horsehead. 218 00:08:34,042 --> 00:08:35,958 It turns into a human body. Right? 219 00:08:36,042 --> 00:08:38,000 And it's got paint and all kinds of stuff all over it. 220 00:08:38,083 --> 00:08:40,667 But I just specifically remember the horsehead 221 00:08:40,792 --> 00:08:42,333 being attached to this guy, 222 00:08:42,458 --> 00:08:44,250 and he--he slowly turns towards me, 223 00:08:44,417 --> 00:08:45,958 and, uh, we just stand there. 224 00:08:46,083 --> 00:08:48,000 When he starts to run, it sounds like a horse. 225 00:08:48,125 --> 00:08:50,583 Exactly like a horse. 226 00:08:50,708 --> 00:08:52,667 I know he has hooves. 227 00:08:52,792 --> 00:08:54,500 You know, it's got the whole clucking going on. 228 00:08:54,625 --> 00:08:56,667 I mean, this is very creepy. 229 00:08:56,792 --> 00:09:00,542 There are stories in this area that talk about a trail 230 00:09:00,708 --> 00:09:03,000 that exists right along this mesa. 231 00:09:03,125 --> 00:09:07,292 And this trail is what they use to travel on. 232 00:09:07,417 --> 00:09:09,250 One of the things I'd like to do while we're here, then, 233 00:09:09,333 --> 00:09:10,833 I want to get a sense of what 234 00:09:10,958 --> 00:09:13,750 the energy baseline is in this area. 235 00:09:13,875 --> 00:09:16,292 -Sure. Sounds good to me. -Yeah. Let's take a look. 236 00:09:16,417 --> 00:09:22,917 ♪ 237 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:30,333 [beeping] 238 00:09:30,458 --> 00:09:32,542 There's certainly something about 239 00:09:32,667 --> 00:09:34,833 the radiation levels here that are elevated. 240 00:09:34,958 --> 00:09:38,083 You see how we're pushing that 1,000 counts per minute? 241 00:09:38,208 --> 00:09:41,500 We should be seeing closer to 200 or 400 counts, 242 00:09:41,625 --> 00:09:44,833 not 1,000 counts. You can-- 243 00:09:44,958 --> 00:09:47,083 Look at that. It's already up to 1.4. 244 00:09:47,208 --> 00:09:49,333 ♪ 245 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:50,833 These levels are some of the highest that we've seen 246 00:09:50,917 --> 00:09:54,333 in any of our investigations so far. 247 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:56,750 ♪ 248 00:09:56,875 --> 00:09:58,917 And I don't think that it's a coincidence 249 00:09:59,042 --> 00:10:02,250 that you have a suspected trail of Skinwalker right here. 250 00:10:02,375 --> 00:10:05,792 2.2, 2.4 holding and it's cons-- 251 00:10:05,875 --> 00:10:07,833 -Look. Did you see that?! -Whoa. 252 00:10:07,958 --> 00:10:09,667 Did you see that spike to 5,000 CPM? 253 00:10:09,833 --> 00:10:11,708 -I saw it. -What is this? 254 00:10:11,792 --> 00:10:14,042 A lot of these rocks came from Satan's Butte. 255 00:10:14,208 --> 00:10:15,333 These rocks came from the butte just over there? 256 00:10:15,417 --> 00:10:16,917 Right. 257 00:10:17,042 --> 00:10:20,042 That could very well explain why it's got 258 00:10:20,208 --> 00:10:21,750 such an elevated reading. 259 00:10:21,875 --> 00:10:24,750 This is all one consistent source. 260 00:10:24,917 --> 00:10:27,333 I absolutely want to see what the similarities are 261 00:10:27,458 --> 00:10:29,167 between this building and that butte. 262 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:31,375 -Let's go. -Let's do that. 263 00:10:31,542 --> 00:10:33,500 ♪ 264 00:10:33,667 --> 00:10:36,500 As Andy and Art head over to Satan's Butte, 265 00:10:36,625 --> 00:10:39,000 Paul is on a ride-along with Jon and Stan, 266 00:10:39,083 --> 00:10:41,250 learning more about the Skinwalkers 267 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:42,958 in Navajo Nation. 268 00:10:43,042 --> 00:10:46,667 So, guys, when we talk about Skinwalkers, 269 00:10:46,833 --> 00:10:49,500 it sounds like we're talking about a couple things, uh, 270 00:10:49,583 --> 00:10:52,292 some kind of a human who has been initiated 271 00:10:52,375 --> 00:10:57,917 into this dark magic, who has now some kinds of powers, right? 272 00:10:58,042 --> 00:10:59,500 They shapeshift? 273 00:10:59,625 --> 00:11:01,625 -Right. -And what--what else? 274 00:11:01,708 --> 00:11:03,667 What--What are these things capable of? 275 00:11:03,792 --> 00:11:06,167 They can travel very fast. 276 00:11:06,292 --> 00:11:09,208 They're known to keep up with cars at highway speeds 277 00:11:09,333 --> 00:11:13,000 and, you know, bang on the side of your car as you're driving. 278 00:11:13,125 --> 00:11:15,583 -Running like an animal? -Running, uh, on two feet, 279 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:17,333 but as an animal. 280 00:11:17,458 --> 00:11:19,875 This is all so sort of unbelievable, 281 00:11:20,042 --> 00:11:22,583 but, you know, you said this has been reported 282 00:11:22,708 --> 00:11:24,500 for y-- well, really forever. 283 00:11:24,625 --> 00:11:26,333 I spoke to another police officer. 284 00:11:26,458 --> 00:11:29,667 This officer ran into two of them, 285 00:11:29,792 --> 00:11:33,042 And as he would chase one, it would just, in a flash, 286 00:11:33,167 --> 00:11:37,417 zip away, and it would be standing on the hill. 287 00:11:37,542 --> 00:11:40,875 And he says that as he ran after it, 288 00:11:41,042 --> 00:11:43,667 the other one would try to get to his vehicle 289 00:11:43,833 --> 00:11:46,250 and take a bit of the decal, 290 00:11:46,375 --> 00:11:48,833 you know, scrape it off and take it with them, 291 00:11:48,917 --> 00:11:52,375 probably to-- to render a curse on it later. 292 00:11:52,458 --> 00:11:54,542 And he would chase the other one, 293 00:11:54,667 --> 00:11:57,792 and it would zip off faster than--than the eye could see. 294 00:11:57,875 --> 00:12:01,500 It was just like you sped up a film in fast motion. 295 00:12:01,708 --> 00:12:03,958 He says this went on for a little while 296 00:12:04,042 --> 00:12:06,083 until he finally drew his weapon, 297 00:12:06,208 --> 00:12:09,167 and he was ready to shoot at them, and they both left. 298 00:12:09,333 --> 00:12:11,708 I'm a skeptic, but when I'm sitting next to someone 299 00:12:11,833 --> 00:12:14,833 who is so informed and-- and passing that on to me 300 00:12:14,958 --> 00:12:18,000 in such a calm and authoritative way, 301 00:12:18,167 --> 00:12:20,792 you can't just write off thousands of years 302 00:12:20,917 --> 00:12:23,292 of human experience just because you're a skeptic. 303 00:12:23,375 --> 00:12:25,000 ♪♪ 304 00:12:25,167 --> 00:12:28,458 Hard to believe this place is called Satan's Butte. 305 00:12:28,542 --> 00:12:29,625 What is the history of this place? 306 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:30,833 Where did that name come from? 307 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,333 So, there are things here on this mesa 308 00:12:33,375 --> 00:12:35,333 that scare most folks. 309 00:12:35,417 --> 00:12:37,833 There is a location on this mesa 310 00:12:37,917 --> 00:12:40,792 that has a very dark value to it. 311 00:12:40,875 --> 00:12:42,208 This is a dark place. 312 00:12:42,375 --> 00:12:44,042 There's dark things that happen on there, 313 00:12:44,208 --> 00:12:47,333 and that's where they named it Satan's Butte. 314 00:12:47,542 --> 00:12:52,958 This is a place of evil. This is where the Devil resides. 315 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:06,667 ♪ 316 00:13:06,833 --> 00:13:09,583 The taboo entity that we're talking about here 317 00:13:09,708 --> 00:13:10,583 is a Skinwalker. 318 00:13:10,708 --> 00:13:12,042 Right. 319 00:13:12,167 --> 00:13:13,833 Andy is at the base of Satan's Butte 320 00:13:13,958 --> 00:13:16,500 with local Navajo medicine man Art Hardy, 321 00:13:16,667 --> 00:13:18,458 who grew up next to this mesa 322 00:13:18,542 --> 00:13:22,000 that he believes is a hotspot for Skinwalkers. 323 00:13:22,167 --> 00:13:26,000 How did these Skinwalkers connect with the Satan's Butte 324 00:13:26,125 --> 00:13:27,000 where we're standing right now? 325 00:13:27,125 --> 00:13:29,750 There is an old cave. 326 00:13:29,875 --> 00:13:32,167 It's caved in now. 327 00:13:32,292 --> 00:13:34,000 Um, that's where they would congregate. 328 00:13:34,042 --> 00:13:35,875 When we were kids, we were told, you know, "Don't go over there. 329 00:13:36,042 --> 00:13:37,875 Don't hang around there. 330 00:13:38,042 --> 00:13:40,833 If you go up there, you'll never come back down." 331 00:13:40,917 --> 00:13:43,083 Is it safe? Is it safe for us to go explore? 332 00:13:43,208 --> 00:13:44,458 -Is it safe? -You know, during the day, 333 00:13:44,542 --> 00:13:46,250 there's--there's no problem. It's--It's at night. 334 00:13:46,375 --> 00:13:48,875 That's usually when you have more problems, 335 00:13:49,042 --> 00:13:50,833 more--more encounters. 336 00:13:50,917 --> 00:13:53,292 For their next plan of attack, 337 00:13:53,417 --> 00:13:56,208 the team regroups at the base of Satan's Butte 338 00:13:56,375 --> 00:13:58,167 so they can investigate an area at the top 339 00:13:58,292 --> 00:14:01,500 where it's said that Skinwalkers gather. 340 00:14:01,625 --> 00:14:03,792 Hey, welcome to Satan's Butte, man. 341 00:14:03,917 --> 00:14:05,458 -Paul. -My name is Art. 342 00:14:05,583 --> 00:14:07,417 -Art, nice to meet you. -Good to meet you, gentlemen. 343 00:14:07,542 --> 00:14:11,583 ♪♪ 344 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:15,292 So, believe it or not, this area here 345 00:14:15,417 --> 00:14:18,833 is on the same longitude that Skinwalker Ranch is. 346 00:14:18,958 --> 00:14:20,917 ANDY: That's incredibly coincidental, 347 00:14:21,042 --> 00:14:22,833 if it's a coincidence at all. 348 00:14:22,958 --> 00:14:27,417 We've also had a lot of reports of Skinwalkers up here. 349 00:14:27,542 --> 00:14:28,750 I mean, Art's told me stories 350 00:14:28,875 --> 00:14:30,125 about encounters with Skinwalkers, 351 00:14:30,250 --> 00:14:33,333 and it does not sound like an easy experience. 352 00:14:33,458 --> 00:14:36,375 It sounds like an upsetting and worrisome experience. 353 00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:39,667 Well, these things can actually kill you pretty easily. 354 00:14:39,833 --> 00:14:42,083 Uh, they can poison you. 355 00:14:42,208 --> 00:14:43,375 There's--There's a lot of different ways they can do it, 356 00:14:44,958 --> 00:14:49,875 and, uh, so we tend to treat it very seriously out here. 357 00:14:50,042 --> 00:14:52,833 The nature of the Skinwalker is 358 00:14:52,958 --> 00:14:56,042 coming from the use of witchcraft. 359 00:14:56,208 --> 00:14:59,042 -Mm-hmm. -And that's uniquely found 360 00:14:59,208 --> 00:15:02,000 within all of these different Indian tribes. 361 00:15:02,167 --> 00:15:04,083 ♪ 362 00:15:04,208 --> 00:15:08,000 The Skinwalkers are said to be able to travel vast distances 363 00:15:08,083 --> 00:15:13,208 by sliding into these, uh, dimensional gates and jumping, 364 00:15:13,333 --> 00:15:17,875 almost like a wormhole effect, and come out again. 365 00:15:18,042 --> 00:15:21,292 Would--Would you guys say, I mean, this is a hotspot? 366 00:15:21,375 --> 00:15:22,708 Satan's Butte is as a hotspot of this activity? 367 00:15:22,833 --> 00:15:24,208 -Oh, yeah, definitely. -Definitely. 368 00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:26,042 That's right. 369 00:15:26,167 --> 00:15:27,667 So, Andy, why don't we start? Why don't we start here? 370 00:15:27,792 --> 00:15:29,167 -I agree. -Good a place as any. 371 00:15:29,292 --> 00:15:32,250 Okay, Paul, I'm going to start with a spectrum analyzer 372 00:15:32,375 --> 00:15:35,000 so we can get a sense of what might be happening around us 373 00:15:35,167 --> 00:15:36,458 that we can't see. 374 00:15:36,583 --> 00:15:38,292 ♪ 375 00:15:38,375 --> 00:15:39,833 What are you seeing there? Anything? 376 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,167 Just now starting to scan the spectrum. 377 00:15:41,292 --> 00:15:43,167 -Okay. -Do you hear the voice? 378 00:15:43,292 --> 00:15:45,000 Look at this. Oh, now look at this, 379 00:15:45,167 --> 00:15:45,917 -I was gonna say, do you hear-- -Look at this, look at this. 380 00:15:46,917 --> 00:15:47,375 -Did you hear that? -I heard it. 381 00:15:48,708 --> 00:15:49,792 Look at this. We have a huge spike at 1.5 gigahertz 382 00:15:49,875 --> 00:15:51,208 in this area. 383 00:15:51,375 --> 00:15:53,333 -PAUL: Really? -ANDY: That's strange. 384 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:57,500 About 200 yards back, I began getting a sense 385 00:15:57,625 --> 00:16:00,375 of us being watched, um... 386 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:03,333 And he and I, just a few moments ago, heard voices. 387 00:16:03,458 --> 00:16:05,125 -Yeah. -Just now. 388 00:16:05,208 --> 00:16:07,833 What do you guys make of that? What do--I mean... 389 00:16:07,958 --> 00:16:09,083 What should we do? 390 00:16:09,208 --> 00:16:11,917 I heard it coming from that direction. 391 00:16:12,042 --> 00:16:14,625 -Up over the ridge? -Uh, it sounded like it. 392 00:16:14,708 --> 00:16:19,292 I can't help but connect this activity with this location 393 00:16:19,417 --> 00:16:21,667 and the fact that you just heard voices in the same place. 394 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:22,833 ♪♪ 395 00:16:22,958 --> 00:16:25,042 We're gonna start losing daylight. 396 00:16:25,167 --> 00:16:27,875 Are you guys comfortable sitting up with us 397 00:16:28,042 --> 00:16:30,500 and doing some nighttime investigation on the mesa, 398 00:16:30,667 --> 00:16:32,292 looking for Skinwalkers? 399 00:16:32,417 --> 00:16:35,375 We're looking for scientific data here. 400 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:36,667 Mm. 401 00:16:36,792 --> 00:16:38,458 We're not hunting for Skinwalkers, 402 00:16:38,583 --> 00:16:42,167 because if we do, we'll find them, or they'll find us. 403 00:16:42,292 --> 00:16:47,167 And if something does happen, and Art or Stan or I say, 404 00:16:47,250 --> 00:16:50,917 "Okay, it's time to wrap it up," we wrap it up. 405 00:16:51,042 --> 00:16:52,583 I can do that. 406 00:16:52,708 --> 00:16:56,000 This phenomenon can be deadly, 407 00:16:56,125 --> 00:16:58,583 and it can. It can take your life. 408 00:16:58,708 --> 00:17:03,250 ♪♪ 409 00:17:03,375 --> 00:17:05,167 All right, lead the way, Jon. 410 00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:10,125 ♪♪ 411 00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:19,542 ♪ 412 00:17:19,708 --> 00:17:23,417 ♪ 413 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:26,250 PAUL: It looks like there's caves and fissures 414 00:17:26,375 --> 00:17:28,333 all over the place. -ANDY: Yeah. 415 00:17:28,458 --> 00:17:30,708 ART: This is the Skinwalker cave. 416 00:17:30,875 --> 00:17:32,542 You're basically standing at the--at the ledge here. 417 00:17:32,667 --> 00:17:34,000 PAUL: Yeah. 418 00:17:34,125 --> 00:17:35,333 And the cave used to be pretty huge, 419 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:38,250 but now it's washed out in the past 30 years. 420 00:17:38,375 --> 00:17:40,917 So, there's no longer a cave, but there's remnants of it, 421 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,292 and it's just gonna be right down on the edge of this ledge. 422 00:17:44,375 --> 00:17:46,792 And the story that-- that we tell around here is 423 00:17:46,875 --> 00:17:49,708 this--this is the area where they would congregate, 424 00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:50,875 where they would get together. 425 00:17:50,958 --> 00:17:53,458 So, uh, we have to do the investigation, 426 00:17:53,542 --> 00:17:57,125 get whatever information we can, verify it. 427 00:17:57,292 --> 00:18:00,833 There's, uh, a lot of anomalous, uh, occurrences here. 428 00:18:00,917 --> 00:18:04,042 Well, let's get unpacked, man, 'cause I want to make sure 429 00:18:04,208 --> 00:18:06,375 we have our stuff set up when night falls. 430 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,250 PAUL: Let's get going before it gets too dark. 431 00:18:08,375 --> 00:18:11,250 We'll run our test tonight and--and see what we get. 432 00:18:11,375 --> 00:18:13,500 ♪♪ 433 00:18:17,458 --> 00:18:22,333 ♪ 434 00:18:22,458 --> 00:18:25,458 ANDY: This place is just daunting-looking, isn't it? 435 00:18:25,583 --> 00:18:28,833 Andy and Paul are investigating the Native American legend 436 00:18:28,958 --> 00:18:32,667 of a shapeshifting creature known as a Skinwalker. 437 00:18:32,792 --> 00:18:35,833 Tonight, they're investigating the top of Satan's Butte, 438 00:18:35,875 --> 00:18:37,667 an area that the Navajo believe 439 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:40,958 is a gathering place for these entities. 440 00:18:41,042 --> 00:18:43,833 Paul, can you set them up so they got--they got good light? 441 00:18:43,958 --> 00:18:45,333 I got it. I got it. 442 00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:48,333 And I'm gonna lower the-- the temp. 443 00:18:48,458 --> 00:18:51,000 Paul, I can't believe how fast 444 00:18:51,167 --> 00:18:52,500 this weather has turned south, man. 445 00:18:52,583 --> 00:18:54,083 Yeah. We've got a storm coming in. 446 00:18:54,208 --> 00:18:56,292 We do not have a lot of time. 447 00:18:56,375 --> 00:18:58,292 Keep a hold on the table, 448 00:18:58,417 --> 00:19:00,083 or we're gonna lose everything. 449 00:19:00,208 --> 00:19:02,125 The team will be using an array of instruments, 450 00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:03,875 including thermal cameras 451 00:19:04,042 --> 00:19:07,000 to monitor for temperature fluctuations in the area, 452 00:19:07,083 --> 00:19:09,250 as well as RF analyzing equipment 453 00:19:09,375 --> 00:19:12,667 to track any unusual activity in the radio spectrum. 454 00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:14,000 All right, so, Paul, I'm-- 455 00:19:14,083 --> 00:19:15,292 I'm gonna start scanning the spectrum. 456 00:19:15,417 --> 00:19:16,667 Okay. 457 00:19:16,792 --> 00:19:18,042 [wind gusting loudly] 458 00:19:18,167 --> 00:19:19,750 Oh, my goodness. 459 00:19:19,875 --> 00:19:21,333 These gusts are incredible. 460 00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:25,417 50, 60-ish gusts coming at us. 461 00:19:25,542 --> 00:19:28,000 The caves should be down there at the bottom. 462 00:19:28,083 --> 00:19:29,417 We got to get this stuff done 463 00:19:29,542 --> 00:19:31,458 before we get blown off this mountain. 464 00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:34,333 Yes. Yes, we do. 465 00:19:34,417 --> 00:19:38,750 Why are we seeing anything like this at 900 megahertz? 466 00:19:38,917 --> 00:19:40,167 Hey, Andy, what do you got? 467 00:19:40,292 --> 00:19:42,042 Paul, we got some strange activity over here, man. 468 00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:44,125 We've got a really active spectrum, 469 00:19:44,208 --> 00:19:46,208 all in 900 megahertz. 470 00:19:46,375 --> 00:19:49,875 Frequen--Whoa. Did you see that incredible uptick over here? 471 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,875 -Paul, look at that. -The whole baseline surged. 472 00:19:52,083 --> 00:19:53,167 -The whole foundation, yeah. -Yeah. 473 00:19:54,375 --> 00:19:55,833 What is this? We've got this 3-peaked signal 474 00:19:55,958 --> 00:19:57,958 that keeps repeating and repeating. 475 00:19:58,083 --> 00:19:59,875 Whatever it is, it's replicating. 476 00:19:59,958 --> 00:20:03,667 -What's that on the left? -1.603. 477 00:20:03,792 --> 00:20:05,500 -[wind gusting loudly] -Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. 478 00:20:05,625 --> 00:20:08,542 God, the wind is just picking up all the time. 479 00:20:08,625 --> 00:20:10,333 We're up here now with a screaming storm 480 00:20:10,458 --> 00:20:13,167 that came out of the blue and a waveform pattern 481 00:20:13,292 --> 00:20:17,500 that's constantly shifting and repeating in a pattern 482 00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:19,583 in privileged transmission zones 483 00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:21,958 that are reserved for-- for earth to space 484 00:20:22,083 --> 00:20:24,083 and space to earth communication. 485 00:20:24,208 --> 00:20:26,000 [wind whistling and gusting] 486 00:20:26,125 --> 00:20:28,417 I want to see if we're seeing any activity 487 00:20:28,542 --> 00:20:30,042 somewhere else on the spectrum. 488 00:20:30,167 --> 00:20:32,417 -[wind gusting loudly] -Whoa. 489 00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:34,042 Wow! 490 00:20:34,125 --> 00:20:35,708 Yeah, that got a reaction. [chuckles] 491 00:20:35,833 --> 00:20:38,792 [laughs] Oh, my gosh. 492 00:20:38,917 --> 00:20:42,833 It's interesting how the-- how the wind kicks up so hard 493 00:20:42,917 --> 00:20:46,000 right when you--you go to that. 494 00:20:46,083 --> 00:20:48,750 We're trying to hold our laptops down before they blow off. 495 00:20:48,875 --> 00:20:52,000 Whatever's here doesn't want us doing this. 496 00:20:52,167 --> 00:20:54,542 I think it's time to call it. 497 00:20:54,708 --> 00:20:56,250 All right, Andy. How are you doing? 498 00:20:56,375 --> 00:20:58,500 I'm good, man. That was-- That's got me unnerved. 499 00:20:58,583 --> 00:21:00,208 -I'm a little bit shaky. -I'm gonna start... 500 00:21:00,375 --> 00:21:01,917 That experience was kind of intense. 501 00:21:02,042 --> 00:21:04,333 All right, I've got your voice going through my head about-- 502 00:21:04,458 --> 00:21:08,000 about expecting-- 503 00:21:08,083 --> 00:21:09,833 Oh, wow. 504 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,917 -Paul, what do you got? -The wind--it's gone. 505 00:21:14,042 --> 00:21:16,833 As soon as we started to say we're breaking down, 506 00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:19,667 the wind just dropped about 50%, at least. 507 00:21:19,792 --> 00:21:21,375 Right, to--to, like, almost nothing. 508 00:21:21,542 --> 00:21:22,792 Yeah. 509 00:21:22,875 --> 00:21:24,250 They were definitely talking to you guys. 510 00:21:25,625 --> 00:21:26,917 You're right. It is what it is, guys. Let's go. 511 00:21:27,042 --> 00:21:29,167 -Here comes the wind again. -ANDY: Are you kidding me? 512 00:21:29,292 --> 00:21:30,667 PAUL: We got to go. 513 00:21:30,833 --> 00:21:36,583 ♪ 514 00:21:36,708 --> 00:21:39,750 It really felt like Mother Nature, the mountain, 515 00:21:39,875 --> 00:21:42,292 everything was just working against us, fighting against us. 516 00:21:42,375 --> 00:21:45,333 Yeah, I really think that there was 517 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,875 something else involved there, 518 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,125 uh, an intelligent source that knew what we were doing, 519 00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:53,167 and then every time we sat back and we says, 520 00:21:53,292 --> 00:21:54,583 "Let's try this experiment," boom. 521 00:21:54,708 --> 00:21:56,542 Here comes the-- Here comes the wind again, 522 00:21:56,708 --> 00:21:58,500 knock us over. 523 00:21:58,625 --> 00:22:01,750 So, you're suggesting that our experiments 524 00:22:01,875 --> 00:22:05,500 were what was driving a response in our natural environment? 525 00:22:05,583 --> 00:22:07,375 Yes. 526 00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:11,583 We really speculate that this has to do 527 00:22:11,708 --> 00:22:14,208 with portals and with other dimensions, 528 00:22:14,375 --> 00:22:17,000 and some of them are just right next to ours, 529 00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:19,458 but at a different frequency. 530 00:22:19,542 --> 00:22:23,000 And so we bleed over every now and then. 531 00:22:23,083 --> 00:22:25,542 It's not like a solid wall. 532 00:22:25,667 --> 00:22:29,750 It's almost like a cloud that intermingles with each other. 533 00:22:29,875 --> 00:22:33,083 And this is one of those places where that can intermingle. 534 00:22:33,167 --> 00:22:35,000 ♪ 535 00:22:35,167 --> 00:22:37,125 Just so you guys know, 536 00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:40,458 we have another case in the works 537 00:22:40,583 --> 00:22:43,083 that just came up recently. 538 00:22:43,208 --> 00:22:45,625 This involves a young woman 539 00:22:45,708 --> 00:22:48,500 that's having all kinds of strangeness. 540 00:22:48,583 --> 00:22:50,833 There's elements of haunting, 541 00:22:50,958 --> 00:22:53,917 and there's elements of Navajo witchcraft, 542 00:22:54,042 --> 00:22:55,750 all involved at the same time. 543 00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:59,167 Is this something that Andy and I could sort of 544 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:00,625 ride along with you on? 545 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,125 We would love to have you guys come along 546 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:06,125 because we wanna get the scientific data 547 00:23:06,208 --> 00:23:08,458 on what's going on here, 548 00:23:08,583 --> 00:23:12,833 so, uh, we're gonna be relying on you guys to get that. 549 00:23:12,917 --> 00:23:15,000 ♪♪ 550 00:23:19,958 --> 00:23:24,833 ♪ 551 00:23:24,917 --> 00:23:28,500 Jon has told us a little bit about your story. 552 00:23:28,667 --> 00:23:30,917 We're very curious to hear more. 553 00:23:31,042 --> 00:23:34,417 Paul and Navajo Nation ranger Jon Dover 554 00:23:34,542 --> 00:23:36,833 meet with a local woman who claims her family 555 00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:40,458 was forced out of their home by Skinwalkers. 556 00:23:40,583 --> 00:23:43,000 She requested her identity be concealed 557 00:23:43,167 --> 00:23:44,667 for fear that telling her story 558 00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:47,583 could provoke further attacks on her family. 559 00:23:47,708 --> 00:23:52,500 Jon has told us a little bit about your story, 560 00:23:52,667 --> 00:23:55,375 and we're very curious to hear more. 561 00:24:15,833 --> 00:24:18,417 And when you say, "seen Skinwalkers," tell me-- 562 00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:20,417 tell me more about exactly what you're seeing. 563 00:24:30,167 --> 00:24:31,958 Walking upright like a person? 564 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,125 Could you see what he was fighting? 565 00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:15,583 It's--What, it disappeared into the ceiling of the house? 566 00:25:25,625 --> 00:25:28,583 In Navajo culture, 567 00:25:28,708 --> 00:25:31,500 you're--if you're born in a certain place, 568 00:25:31,625 --> 00:25:33,583 you're tied to that land. 569 00:25:33,708 --> 00:25:36,667 That's where you grew up. 570 00:25:36,792 --> 00:25:38,833 That's where you're gonna be buried. 571 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,125 They're tied in with that land very, very tightly. 572 00:25:42,292 --> 00:25:43,833 -Mm-hmm. -And that's why-- 573 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,417 So, moving is not something you would take lightly at all. 574 00:25:46,542 --> 00:25:47,833 -That's a major decision. -No. 575 00:25:47,958 --> 00:25:50,667 No, that's--that's big, big-time, major decision. 576 00:25:50,792 --> 00:25:51,917 Mm-hmm. 577 00:25:52,042 --> 00:25:54,042 Thank you, first of all, for sharing this. 578 00:25:54,167 --> 00:25:56,083 -Mm-hmm. -And thank you for being willing 579 00:25:56,208 --> 00:25:59,125 to let us investigate your home. 580 00:26:02,458 --> 00:26:04,708 We'll be very careful. 581 00:26:07,458 --> 00:26:11,667 ♪ 582 00:26:11,792 --> 00:26:14,208 For the next part of their investigation, 583 00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:15,958 Paul, Andy, and the Navajo team 584 00:26:16,083 --> 00:26:19,792 head to the Skinwalker victim's abandoned homestead 585 00:26:19,917 --> 00:26:23,542 located about 90 miles southwest of Satan's Butte. 586 00:26:23,667 --> 00:26:27,667 We've got eyes on this house in every possible way. 587 00:26:27,792 --> 00:26:31,000 They've set up security cameras throughout the home, 588 00:26:31,167 --> 00:26:33,167 as well as additional thermal cameras 589 00:26:33,292 --> 00:26:36,167 to monitor any temperature anomalies on the property. 590 00:26:36,292 --> 00:26:37,583 ♪♪ 591 00:26:37,708 --> 00:26:40,667 I'm already seeing some strange activity on FLIR. 592 00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:41,458 -Do you see that? -PAUL: Are you recording that? 593 00:26:41,583 --> 00:26:43,125 Yeah. Do you see the FLIR? 594 00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:46,042 The FLIR is an instrument that gives us visual capability 595 00:26:46,208 --> 00:26:49,125 into the thermal temperatures around the building. 596 00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:51,000 -This is an abandoned building. -Yeah, this should be-- 597 00:26:51,125 --> 00:26:53,042 It should be cold, but look at what's happening 598 00:26:53,208 --> 00:26:55,000 around the entrance. Look inside the window. 599 00:26:55,167 --> 00:26:57,083 When the window opens, do you see that? 600 00:26:57,208 --> 00:26:59,500 -Yeah, that's weird. -Yeah, there's a hotspot inside. 601 00:26:59,583 --> 00:27:00,708 Look at that. That's exactly right. 602 00:27:00,792 --> 00:27:02,333 That's really strange, guys. 603 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,167 This is the ambient temperature of the doorway and the stairs. 604 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:08,417 And we see these heat signatures that are-- 605 00:27:08,542 --> 00:27:09,667 -All around. -Yeah. 606 00:27:09,833 --> 00:27:10,958 And it's been cold here all day. 607 00:27:11,042 --> 00:27:12,583 All day. 608 00:27:12,708 --> 00:27:14,292 So it wouldn't have soaked up any heat... 609 00:27:14,375 --> 00:27:15,792 -No. -...from any source. 610 00:27:15,917 --> 00:27:17,292 This is absolutely suggesting that there's 611 00:27:17,375 --> 00:27:20,167 some kind of energy source around that entryway 612 00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:23,500 that we can see... 613 00:27:23,667 --> 00:27:26,000 -Keeping it warm. -With thermal imagery, exactly. 614 00:27:26,167 --> 00:27:27,375 That's odd. 615 00:27:27,542 --> 00:27:31,167 Wait, why is that camera switching--switching views? 616 00:27:31,292 --> 00:27:34,167 -What part of the house is that? -Why does it keep moving? 617 00:27:34,292 --> 00:27:35,583 There's a different image. Do you see the different image? 618 00:27:35,708 --> 00:27:38,958 What's going on there? 619 00:27:39,042 --> 00:27:41,542 That's the one that's mounted just inside the door, right? 620 00:27:41,667 --> 00:27:44,292 Yeah, just inside the door. 621 00:27:44,417 --> 00:27:47,208 -JON: Let's go take a look. -PAUL: Yeah, let's do it. 622 00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:48,875 All right, Jon, I'm gonna let you lead the way 623 00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:51,000 'cause I'm gonna try and keep my eye on the screen here. 624 00:27:51,208 --> 00:27:58,292 ♪ 625 00:27:58,417 --> 00:27:59,625 Camera should be right up here. 626 00:28:01,542 --> 00:28:03,583 -Hey, Andy? -Yeah, man. 627 00:28:03,708 --> 00:28:05,500 Camera's come down from the wall. 628 00:28:05,583 --> 00:28:07,792 The camera's come down? Can you replace it? 629 00:28:07,875 --> 00:28:09,250 I'm going to try and get up there and fix it. 630 00:28:09,375 --> 00:28:13,667 ♪♪ 631 00:28:13,833 --> 00:28:16,083 But even with it falling down, 632 00:28:16,208 --> 00:28:18,083 how the heck were we still getting a... 633 00:28:18,208 --> 00:28:20,417 -I don't understand. -...another image? 634 00:28:20,542 --> 00:28:21,833 Yep. 635 00:28:21,958 --> 00:28:24,458 That's the weirdest part. 636 00:28:24,542 --> 00:28:25,667 It's one thing if it just falls, 637 00:28:25,792 --> 00:28:28,375 but why was it picking up another... 638 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:29,708 Seemed like another room entirely. 639 00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:31,375 Andy, how's that? 640 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:33,042 You're not gonna believe this, man. 641 00:28:33,167 --> 00:28:34,542 The whole time you've been in there, 642 00:28:34,625 --> 00:28:35,833 there hasn't been a single flicker. 643 00:28:35,958 --> 00:28:37,333 What? 644 00:28:37,458 --> 00:28:39,167 The signal is strong and steady. 645 00:28:39,292 --> 00:28:41,000 Boy, what a scene. 646 00:28:41,125 --> 00:28:43,208 It feels like they left in a hurry, doesn't it? 647 00:28:43,333 --> 00:28:44,875 Yeah. Yeah. Big hurry. 648 00:28:45,042 --> 00:28:48,625 Yeah. Look at how warm these walls are. 649 00:28:48,792 --> 00:28:52,125 Up around 41 degrees on some of this stuff. 650 00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:53,958 ♪ 651 00:28:54,042 --> 00:28:57,125 I mean, the wind is blowing through here. 652 00:28:57,250 --> 00:28:59,833 -Yeah, you wouldn't expect that. -No. 653 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,875 -Here's dressers with... -Yeah. 654 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,833 ...items still in them. 655 00:29:04,917 --> 00:29:07,625 I mean, it looks like they just got up and ran. I mean... 656 00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:10,500 -What's that? -It's a little child's sandal. 657 00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:12,000 PAUL: Weird. 658 00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:15,625 This is the room where there was a-a fight 659 00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:19,083 with a dark figure with red eyes, 660 00:29:19,208 --> 00:29:22,417 and they said it had antlers like a deer. 661 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,167 And that thing went up through 662 00:29:24,292 --> 00:29:26,333 and into the attic and disappeared. 663 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,625 PAUL: I mean, this--this part of the house just looks like 664 00:29:28,708 --> 00:29:30,667 it's been completely ripped apart. 665 00:29:30,833 --> 00:29:32,167 JON: That's right. 666 00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:35,333 PAUL: Completely different from the other sections. 667 00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,000 Really strange. I mean, this-- 668 00:29:37,125 --> 00:29:39,333 this is--this is just destroyed in here. 669 00:29:39,458 --> 00:29:42,208 There's a crib in the corner. 670 00:29:42,375 --> 00:29:47,542 That bed frame is a full 8 degrees warmer 671 00:29:47,667 --> 00:29:49,708 even than the material in the bed. 672 00:29:49,792 --> 00:29:55,708 JON: And the window's open. 673 00:29:55,708 --> 00:29:58,167 ♪ 674 00:29:58,333 --> 00:30:00,000 PAUL: Really strange. I mean, this--this is-- 675 00:30:00,125 --> 00:30:01,417 this is just destroyed in here. 676 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,167 ♪ 677 00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:07,208 There's a crib in the corner. 678 00:30:07,333 --> 00:30:12,500 That bed frame is a full 8 degrees warmer 679 00:30:12,583 --> 00:30:15,125 even than the material in the bed. 680 00:30:15,208 --> 00:30:17,125 I don't know what to make of all this variation. 681 00:30:17,208 --> 00:30:19,708 You'd think everything in here would just be uniformly cold. 682 00:30:19,875 --> 00:30:21,458 That just doesn't make sense. 683 00:30:21,542 --> 00:30:23,625 JON: And the-- the roof is gone. 684 00:30:23,708 --> 00:30:26,750 -PAUL: And it's completely open. -JON: And the window is open. 685 00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:30,042 PAUL: I'm just getting a weird vibe from this. 686 00:30:30,167 --> 00:30:31,708 JON: Yeah, you can feel it. 687 00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:32,875 -Yeah, it's just this... -Almost oppressed. 688 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,542 Something weird in here. 689 00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:38,083 ♪♪ 690 00:30:38,208 --> 00:30:40,500 Can you hear this? Andy, come here. 691 00:30:40,583 --> 00:30:42,208 Listen in this direction right now. 692 00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:44,167 Do you hear any howling? 693 00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:46,708 It's a very faint howling that came from this direction. 694 00:30:46,875 --> 00:30:48,417 [wind blowing] 695 00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:50,333 [gasps] 696 00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:01,833 I don't-- 697 00:31:06,958 --> 00:31:08,375 [wind blowing] 698 00:31:13,042 --> 00:31:15,000 Jon, why don't we make our way back 699 00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:16,333 to the front of the house? 700 00:31:16,458 --> 00:31:18,500 -That sounds like a good plan. -Yeah. 701 00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:23,250 ♪ 702 00:31:23,375 --> 00:31:25,208 All right, guys. 703 00:31:25,375 --> 00:31:26,542 ANDY: Now, Paul, while you guys were inside... 704 00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:28,667 -Yep? -Art heard a howling sound. 705 00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:29,667 A howling? 706 00:31:29,792 --> 00:31:31,542 A howling sound on the property. 707 00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:33,375 There's certainly a lot of activity concentrated 708 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,125 on this house. 709 00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:39,500 ♪ 710 00:31:39,625 --> 00:31:41,083 The spectrum's not moving. 711 00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:43,042 That's very different than what we saw in Satan's Butte. 712 00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:45,208 -Yep. -But this-- 713 00:31:45,375 --> 00:31:47,000 the power and consistency... -[howling in distance] 714 00:31:47,125 --> 00:31:49,542 -...of this thermal anomaly. -What was that? 715 00:31:51,667 --> 00:31:56,167 -I'm glad we all heard that. -Yeah, I heard that, too. 716 00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:58,667 I'm telling you guys, it's here. 717 00:31:58,833 --> 00:32:01,292 ♪ 718 00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:08,875 That was a weird noise. 719 00:32:14,208 --> 00:32:15,083 -Still got yours? -I think Jon has the other. 720 00:32:15,208 --> 00:32:16,500 -Jon has it? -Yep, yep. 721 00:32:16,625 --> 00:32:18,667 You got that one. 722 00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:23,167 ♪ 723 00:32:37,958 --> 00:32:39,458 [high-pitched electronic whine] 724 00:32:43,625 --> 00:32:45,333 [howl in distance] 725 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,042 [wind blowing, low yelp in distance] 726 00:32:50,542 --> 00:32:51,708 [howl in distance] 727 00:32:54,542 --> 00:32:57,000 -Did you hear that, Andy? -I hear all sorts of things. 728 00:32:57,125 --> 00:32:59,000 You didn't hear the, like, the yell over here? 729 00:32:59,083 --> 00:33:00,583 No, I didn't hear a yell. 730 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:03,208 [wind whistling] 731 00:33:08,208 --> 00:33:11,750 Andy, what are you guys seeing over there? 732 00:33:11,875 --> 00:33:13,250 Hey, Paul, this is Art. 733 00:33:13,375 --> 00:33:16,333 We got, uh, some kind of yelling going on back here, 734 00:33:16,542 --> 00:33:18,667 some strange noises. 735 00:33:18,833 --> 00:33:21,667 We got Andy on the, uh, night vision, 736 00:33:21,792 --> 00:33:23,958 checking through with the IR to see if there's any kind 737 00:33:24,083 --> 00:33:26,208 of visual that he can make out. 738 00:33:26,333 --> 00:33:28,042 ANDY: I can't make sense of any of it. 739 00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:30,833 And that's what they do. 740 00:33:30,958 --> 00:33:32,500 And I'm not really comfortable 741 00:33:32,583 --> 00:33:35,042 being too far away from Paul 'cause he's... 742 00:33:35,167 --> 00:33:37,667 -Yeah, same. -...alone, which-- 743 00:33:37,792 --> 00:33:39,833 Let's get back over there and see. 744 00:33:39,958 --> 00:33:42,250 I heard that. I heard that. Sure. 745 00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:48,167 ANDY: That was another kind of... like a holler or yell. 746 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:50,125 ♪♪ 747 00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:53,875 That's where--Let's make our way back to Paul for sure. 748 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,875 ♪♪ 749 00:33:57,042 --> 00:33:59,542 I honestly feel like we're hearing 750 00:33:59,667 --> 00:34:02,750 some sort of call, like a holler or a yell, 751 00:34:02,875 --> 00:34:04,542 baiting us to go further. 752 00:34:04,708 --> 00:34:06,500 Given everything we've seen and heard tonight, 753 00:34:06,625 --> 00:34:08,333 do you think that there's 754 00:34:08,417 --> 00:34:11,083 really, right now, a Skinwalker here with us? 755 00:34:11,208 --> 00:34:13,417 Yes, I do. I do believe that. 756 00:34:13,542 --> 00:34:16,333 It's not just the intuition that's telling me that, 757 00:34:16,458 --> 00:34:17,833 but it's all the physical evidence 758 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,708 that's been presented around us that says yes. 759 00:34:21,833 --> 00:34:24,708 There's an oppressive feeling here. 760 00:34:24,875 --> 00:34:26,458 I mean, you walk into it, it hits you 761 00:34:26,625 --> 00:34:30,375 just like a solid object, this negative energy. 762 00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:32,917 Yeah, I've had kind of a pit in my stomach 763 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,167 up here the whole time. 764 00:34:34,292 --> 00:34:38,167 -Right. -It just--It doesn't feel good. 765 00:34:38,292 --> 00:34:39,958 Well, as we acknowledge it, 766 00:34:40,042 --> 00:34:42,750 all the noises have somewhat dissipated now. 767 00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:43,792 You don't hear anything else now. 768 00:34:43,917 --> 00:34:45,458 It's pretty--pretty quiet. 769 00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:47,417 Maybe we should pack up while it's quiet. 770 00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:54,083 Well, Paul and Andy... [sighs] 771 00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:56,833 I'm excited to find out what you've learned 772 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,708 in your adventures on the Navajo Nation. 773 00:34:59,833 --> 00:35:02,333 Well, buckle up, 'cause we had a pretty wild ride out there. 774 00:35:02,417 --> 00:35:04,208 "Adventure" is the exact right word to use. 775 00:35:04,292 --> 00:35:05,292 -Really? -Yeah. Yeah. 776 00:35:05,375 --> 00:35:06,833 -Wow. -So as soon as we land 777 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,292 in Navajo Nation, we had a chance to meet 778 00:35:08,417 --> 00:35:11,000 with Jon and Stan and get our bearings 779 00:35:11,125 --> 00:35:12,792 on both their background 780 00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:16,000 and where they wanted us to start our current investigation. 781 00:35:16,167 --> 00:35:18,167 So, we were introduced to a local medicine man, 782 00:35:18,292 --> 00:35:21,000 a community leader by the name of Art Hardy, 783 00:35:21,167 --> 00:35:23,458 and he took me to a place called Satan's Butte. 784 00:35:23,542 --> 00:35:26,167 And this is just one geographic location 785 00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:28,833 in the larger Navajo Nation. 786 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,333 Now, we went here specifically looking to kind of dig into 787 00:35:32,458 --> 00:35:34,750 and put data around the Skinwalker legend, 788 00:35:34,875 --> 00:35:38,458 and it seems like it centers here on Satan's Butte. 789 00:35:38,542 --> 00:35:39,708 Really? 790 00:35:39,875 --> 00:35:41,250 The way they described it to us, that this is 791 00:35:41,375 --> 00:35:43,208 almost a jumping off point where there was 792 00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:46,667 congregations of multiple Skinwalkers. 793 00:35:46,833 --> 00:35:48,208 [keyboard clicks] 794 00:35:48,375 --> 00:35:52,000 So, we decided to launch a night investigation 795 00:35:52,083 --> 00:35:53,542 up onto Satan's Butte itself, 796 00:35:53,708 --> 00:35:55,958 actually go to the place where nobody goes. 797 00:35:56,083 --> 00:35:57,333 Fantastic. 798 00:35:57,458 --> 00:35:59,042 Fortune favors the bold, man, absolutely. 799 00:35:59,125 --> 00:36:00,625 ANDY: So, we had a spectrum analyzer 800 00:36:00,750 --> 00:36:02,458 that gave us both the ability to observe the spectrum 801 00:36:02,583 --> 00:36:04,125 and then also tune into the spectrum and listen in. 802 00:36:04,208 --> 00:36:05,708 Sure. Mm-hmm. 803 00:36:05,833 --> 00:36:08,042 Well, we got some strange activity over here, man. 804 00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:10,125 We've got a really active spectrum 805 00:36:10,292 --> 00:36:12,125 all at 900 megahertz. 806 00:36:12,292 --> 00:36:13,750 Let's see what happens when we go up 807 00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:16,083 and cross the boundary. 808 00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:18,792 You got a comb function that's all the way across. 809 00:36:18,875 --> 00:36:20,500 -That's all these spikes. -Mm. 810 00:36:20,625 --> 00:36:21,917 The reason why it's called a comb function-- 811 00:36:22,042 --> 00:36:24,292 it looks like the teeth of a comb, right? 812 00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:26,542 And it's spread across the frequency there. 813 00:36:26,708 --> 00:36:28,042 What's generating that? 814 00:36:28,167 --> 00:36:32,000 That's a lot of energy. That's very interesting. 815 00:36:32,167 --> 00:36:34,333 So, one element of the equation here 816 00:36:34,458 --> 00:36:35,750 were the weather conditions. 817 00:36:35,875 --> 00:36:38,000 We had scheduled everything because the weather 818 00:36:38,083 --> 00:36:41,000 was supposed to be calm with clear skies 819 00:36:41,125 --> 00:36:43,833 and a great nighttime investigation setup. 820 00:36:43,958 --> 00:36:46,042 As we set up for this experiment, 821 00:36:46,208 --> 00:36:49,333 the weather got rapidly worse and worse. 822 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,333 As you'll see, we just started getting 823 00:36:51,417 --> 00:36:55,083 flat out concerned for our safety. 824 00:36:55,208 --> 00:36:57,625 The reason you see the shake in the camera 825 00:36:57,708 --> 00:36:59,000 is because our cameramen were being blown off. 826 00:36:59,167 --> 00:37:00,458 -Whoa. Look at that. -Yeah. 827 00:37:00,583 --> 00:37:03,583 -Wow. -Yeah, that got a reaction. 828 00:37:03,708 --> 00:37:06,542 Whatever's here doesn't want us doing this. 829 00:37:06,667 --> 00:37:09,208 I think it's time to call it. 830 00:37:09,333 --> 00:37:13,208 You could see it on him. He was visibly shaken, 831 00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:15,500 and he decided that it wasn't a good place to be. 832 00:37:15,625 --> 00:37:16,958 Yeah. 833 00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:20,042 And then we were invited to participate 834 00:37:20,167 --> 00:37:23,125 in an active Navajo Nation investigation 835 00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:25,625 into a current Skinwalker situation. 836 00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:27,208 -Wow. -We actually had an opportunity 837 00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:29,833 to speak with the woman involved, 838 00:37:29,958 --> 00:37:33,625 and what she described is almost an infestation 839 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:37,125 over many, many years at their home 840 00:37:37,292 --> 00:37:39,208 that had essentially driven them out of the home. 841 00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,625 The entire family had abandoned their home. 842 00:37:41,708 --> 00:37:43,625 What we had now was an opportunity 843 00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:46,208 to go and do an investigation at the home. 844 00:37:46,375 --> 00:37:48,667 So, Paul and I are on site 845 00:37:48,833 --> 00:37:51,625 looking to collect hard data with hosts, 846 00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:54,625 with guides there with us, who were more in tune-- 847 00:37:54,792 --> 00:37:58,417 seemed more in tune with the environment than we were. 848 00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:00,375 -[gasps] -[wind whistling] 849 00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:06,625 -I don't-- -Shh! 850 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:14,583 So, we started hearing sounds. At first, some sounds 851 00:38:14,708 --> 00:38:16,875 were being reported that Paul and I couldn't hear. 852 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,208 Yep. 853 00:38:18,375 --> 00:38:20,000 And then we got some kind of squeal 854 00:38:20,125 --> 00:38:23,167 that was off in the distance that we all very clearly heard. 855 00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:24,917 The power and consistency of this thermal anomaly... 856 00:38:25,042 --> 00:38:26,375 [howl in distance] 857 00:38:26,542 --> 00:38:27,458 -What was that? -What was that? 858 00:38:27,542 --> 00:38:29,667 ♪♪ 859 00:38:29,875 --> 00:38:32,292 -[keyboard clicks] -And the preponderance 860 00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:35,167 of activity convinced Art, our medicine man, 861 00:38:35,292 --> 00:38:37,583 that a Skinwalker was present. 862 00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:39,500 And our guides started to see more and more activity. 863 00:38:39,667 --> 00:38:41,250 They started seeing shadowy figures 864 00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:43,500 off of mesas that were near the house, 865 00:38:43,667 --> 00:38:45,333 and they just-- they started warning us 866 00:38:45,458 --> 00:38:47,667 of activity all around us. 867 00:38:47,833 --> 00:38:51,458 I like the fact that you're-- you're taking these side notes, 868 00:38:51,542 --> 00:38:53,083 you know, the commentary coming from those 869 00:38:53,208 --> 00:38:56,167 who have been your guides. Whatever they're picking on, 870 00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:57,917 this may be what we're here to understand. 871 00:38:58,042 --> 00:39:02,292 It may be more important data, that notetaking that you did, 872 00:39:02,375 --> 00:39:04,000 than any of the measurements you took 873 00:39:04,125 --> 00:39:05,375 with the scientific instruments, 874 00:39:05,542 --> 00:39:08,042 or at least the correlation of the two. 875 00:39:08,167 --> 00:39:12,333 We have scientific instrument data and experience data. 876 00:39:12,458 --> 00:39:15,125 So, Jon actually told us he has an update 877 00:39:15,208 --> 00:39:16,583 from our investigation when we were in the field with him, 878 00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:18,875 and I would love to pull him up right now. 879 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,500 -Yeah. -Right now. 880 00:39:20,708 --> 00:39:23,333 -Yeah. -Let's do it, yeah. 881 00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,042 -Hey, it's good to see you guys. -Hey, Jon. 882 00:39:26,125 --> 00:39:27,333 Hey, Jon. Great to see you. 883 00:39:27,417 --> 00:39:28,708 So, Jon, we understand there's a-- 884 00:39:28,875 --> 00:39:30,125 there's an update that you have for us, sir. 885 00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:32,083 Uh, yes, there is. 886 00:39:32,208 --> 00:39:36,500 I ran into the young lady, and she gave me an update 887 00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:38,667 on what was going on with that case 888 00:39:38,792 --> 00:39:40,875 out at the house in the middle of nowhere. 889 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,500 She rushed up to me. She was very, very happy, 890 00:39:44,625 --> 00:39:47,458 and she wanted me to know 891 00:39:47,542 --> 00:39:50,375 and wanted everybody there to know 892 00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:53,833 that as a result of the investigation, 893 00:39:54,042 --> 00:39:59,500 the attacks have gone away on her personally and her family. 894 00:39:59,583 --> 00:40:01,167 -Wow. -It shined a light 895 00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:03,333 on Skinwalker activity. 896 00:40:03,458 --> 00:40:05,500 They don't want that light shone on them, 897 00:40:05,667 --> 00:40:07,875 and there are no more occurrences. 898 00:40:08,042 --> 00:40:12,417 So, this investigation revealed that there was actually 899 00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:16,292 phenomena taking place that was affecting the family. 900 00:40:16,417 --> 00:40:18,750 And as a result of the investigation, 901 00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:21,083 the government with the Navajo Nation, 902 00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:25,167 has offered to assign her a new home site lease. 903 00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:26,917 -Wow. -Oh, wow. 904 00:40:27,042 --> 00:40:28,500 This is unprecedented. 905 00:40:28,625 --> 00:40:30,167 -Wow. -That's fascinating. 906 00:40:30,292 --> 00:40:32,167 -Wow. -Jon, that's amazing news. 907 00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:33,708 -Yeah. -We helped resolve this, maybe, 908 00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:36,208 or at least move--made life better for someone, right? 909 00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:37,750 Yeah, exactly. 910 00:40:37,917 --> 00:40:38,833 It is clear that this is being taken seriously. 911 00:40:38,958 --> 00:40:40,333 Yeah. 912 00:40:40,375 --> 00:40:41,625 Like, we created something that... 913 00:40:41,792 --> 00:40:42,625 -Right. -...the government is seeing 914 00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:44,750 as evidence, and that evidence 915 00:40:44,875 --> 00:40:48,708 is being used to advance a case right there in Navajo Nation. 916 00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:51,000 It makes you feel good when you find out that, uh, 917 00:40:51,125 --> 00:40:52,292 you did something good. 918 00:40:52,375 --> 00:40:54,250 -Yeah. -Thank you, Jon. 919 00:40:54,375 --> 00:40:55,833 -Thanks, Jon. -Oh, yeah. 920 00:40:55,917 --> 00:40:57,292 -We'll see you later, Jon. -Thanks you, Jon. 921 00:40:57,375 --> 00:40:58,708 -Thanks a lot. -See you, guys. 922 00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:02,500 -All right. -I find that really interesting. 923 00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:05,167 I wasn't really expecting anything like that. 924 00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:07,833 Yeah. The fact that it's actionable or deemed actionable 925 00:41:08,042 --> 00:41:10,625 by the tribe, right, the Navajo Nation... 926 00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:12,667 -A governing body. -...that says a lot to me, 927 00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:16,333 and I applaud you guys for doing this--this particular excursion. 928 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,625 This has been very eye-opening and fantastic. 929 00:41:18,708 --> 00:41:20,500 -Yeah. -Absolutely. 930 00:41:20,583 --> 00:41:23,500 What you guys are doing is benefiting what we're doing, 931 00:41:23,625 --> 00:41:27,208 and what we're doing is informing what you need to do. 932 00:41:27,375 --> 00:41:30,375 Yeah. What we'll do next. This is a match made in heaven. 933 00:41:30,542 --> 00:41:33,625 [laughs] Together we're stronger. 934 00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:35,292 -It's a good way to put it. -Thanks, guys. 935 00:41:35,417 --> 00:41:38,125 Thank you so much.