1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,440 This programme contains some strong language. 2 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,320 A child is a thing to be loved. 3 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,400 A child is the manifestations of both parents, 4 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,160 and both parents see themselves in the child. 5 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,640 The child is part of them. 6 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,760 He is their flesh and blood. 7 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,800 And for good many years, 8 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,520 he is a reflection of their personality. 9 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,360 So when he grows up, one day he's going to assert his own personality, 10 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,040 which might very well differ from the personalities 11 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,960 and outlooks of his parents. 12 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Immediately, his parents feel very upset. 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,560 You know, they don't see themselves in him any more. 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,080 And when these parents don't see themselves in him, 15 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,160 they feel they've lost him. 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,520 But really, he's become a human being in his own right. 17 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,120 Brian's troubled relationship with his parents 18 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,760 would affect him throughout his life. 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,800 His parents disapproved of his lifestyle. 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,320 They wanted Brian to have a proper job like his father. 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,880 At the age of just 19, he formed the Rolling Stones. 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,680 They were the first of their kind 23 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,920 and drove people crazy with their long hair 24 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,600 and their contempt for convention and authority. 25 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,040 Let's introduce you Stone by Stone to the Rolling Stones. 26 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,800 Hello, I'm Mick Jagger. 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Charlie Watts... Who? Charlie Watts. 28 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Brian Jones. 29 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Keith Richards. Bill Wyman. 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,040 On the question of hair, boys, you're pretty long in the hair. 31 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,120 What's the point of long hair these days? 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,280 I believe it's going out in England and it's going out in Australia. 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,920 We still like it. You thought of anything different, like plaiting your hair or anything like this? 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,440 Ha-ha. Funny man. We've got a comedian here, I see. 35 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,600 I believe some of the Eastern States groups have even suggested that you're effeminate. 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,320 What have you got to say about this? Well, darling... 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,200 Well, we're not, you know. 38 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,960 I met Brian on a train as a schoolboy, aged 14. 39 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,120 I was surprised how open and friendly he was, 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,000 with a soft spoken middle class accent. 41 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,240 He said he was a train spotter and this was his favourite line - 42 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,120 The Great Western. 43 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,280 I remember the shock when hearing he had died tragically 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,640 just six years later. 45 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:48,160 He seemed at the time to have the world at his feet. 46 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,480 CHEERING 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,480 Thank you very much. 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,400 # Everybody wants somebody 49 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,960 # Everybody wants somebody 50 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,480 # Everybody needs somebody 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,120 # Everybody... # 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,920 I loved Mick and Keith. 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,480 And Mick always was in awe of Brian. 54 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,480 He absolutely loved him and I think he wanted to be Brian. 55 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,560 # Everybody wants somebody 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,000 # Everybody needs somebody... # 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,120 Cos he had all the girls and he had all the fan mail. 58 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,840 # Someone to love 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,640 # Someone to kiss... # 60 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:27,800 And Mick was trying really hard... 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,240 ..to get girlfriends, I think, at that time. 62 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,040 # Someone to please 63 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,840 # Sometimes a squeeze... # 64 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,000 That was what I remember, that he was very impressed 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,280 with the way that Brian could just draw women to him. 66 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,360 # I need you, you, you... # 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,040 To Brian and Keith, it was like a brother relationship. 68 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,480 I saw Keith so fascinated with the way Brian played 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,200 and Brian showing him certain guitar things. 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,640 # I need you 71 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,120 # Yes, I do... # 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,440 And so they were very close. 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,280 They were all rowing together in this musical journey. 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,600 Ladies and gentlemen, it's all about to happen. 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,560 Let's hear it for the fantastic Rolling Stones! 76 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,480 CHEERING 77 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,800 # I'm all right 78 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,400 # I'm all right 79 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,160 # I'm all right 80 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,960 # I'm all right 81 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,760 # I'm all right 82 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,280 # Whoa, whoa, whoa 83 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:32,800 # Come on down 84 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,720 # Come on down 85 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,400 # Come on down... # 86 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,080 Brian then, was as popular and famous as Mick. 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,160 He was the heart and soul of the early Stones. 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,360 Yet most people today haven't even heard of him. 89 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:03,280 Brian answered most of the fan mail. 90 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,080 "Dear Doreen, many thanks for your letter 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,000 "and the great interest you've shown in the band. 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,040 "The band is really an amalgamation of two bands, 93 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,400 "the one being an R&B band I formed the year ago 94 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,040 "and the other being a group run by Mick and Keith in south east London. 95 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,920 "We have, I might add, 96 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,720 "a habit of breaking audience attendance records." 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,560 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,800 In the early days, who got all the fan mail? 99 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Brian. 100 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,760 The secretaries told me, "Well, we get about 100 letters. 101 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,080 "About 60 of them are for Brian, 102 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,240 "about 25 are for Mick, about ten for Charlie and Keith. 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,640 "And there's about the same for you, you know, and that's it, you know? 104 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,560 "But Brian gets all the fan mail." 105 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:55,520 He was brilliant, a brilliant musician. 106 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,640 He shocked everybody with the quality of his playing. 107 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,640 We all dedicated ourselves to the band 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,840 and Brian more so than anybody else, 109 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:07,680 because it was his band in the beginning. 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,760 So it meant the world to him more than it did to the rest of us. 111 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:16,360 Brian did everything. He wrote in the music papers. 112 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,720 He discussed things about the origins 113 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,840 of what is actually the blues and what is R&B. 114 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:25,080 There's all those letters and things. I've got copies of them. 115 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,320 When Brian advertised for a band, 116 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,080 he chose every single person to come into his band. 117 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,680 Let's recap on the Rolling Stones. 118 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,320 How did you all get together in the first place? 119 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,120 Actually, I answered an advert for a bass player, so... 120 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,880 But the rest of them got together individually in jazz clubs and formed a sort of a group. 121 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,040 How long ago was that? Two years. 122 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,080 And what were you doing when you answered the advertisement? Engineering, actually. 123 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,000 And we'll move on now to Brian. 124 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,880 How long have you been with the Rolling Stones? Are you one of the original members? 125 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,920 Yes, one of the original members. 126 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,160 What were you doing before you joined? 127 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,760 Well, just sort of bumming around, waiting for something to happen, really. 128 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,000 I had quite a few jobs and I was trying to get a band going, 129 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,200 but it was unsuccessful until I met up with Mick and Keith 130 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,360 and then that was a successful band. 131 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,840 Well, can you think back to your first engagement? Where was that? 132 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,360 Erm... 133 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Marquee, Oxford Street, London. 134 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,160 And may I ask how much you got paid for that assignment? 135 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,400 20 quid, which was good, because six months later, we were still working for 10 quid. 136 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,280 # It's all right 137 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,120 # It's all right, children 138 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,040 # It's all right 139 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,960 # It's all right, children 140 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,680 # It's all right 141 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,720 # Come on around, baby 142 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,840 # Come on around, baby 143 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,760 # Come on around, baby 144 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,640 # Come on around, baby 145 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,360 # Come on around, baby... # 146 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Mick used to stand in front of us. 147 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Mick's got the maracas 148 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,040 and the audience just joining in and all that. 149 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,040 # Do you feel it, baby 150 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,800 # Yeah, yeah, yeah 151 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,600 # Do you feel it now 152 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,040 # My, my, my... # 153 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,560 It just got right into your body and it was like a tribal gathering. 154 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,680 # All right, all right, all right 155 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,880 # All right, all right, all right 156 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,040 # All right, all right, all right 157 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,680 # All right, all right, all right 158 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,880 # All right, all right, all right. # 159 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,480 CHEERING AND APPLAUSE 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,120 The blues were everything to Brian. 161 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,720 He saw the Stones as promoting unknown black blues music. 162 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,720 "Dear Doreen, you raised the point in your letter about blues material. 163 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,880 "You must appreciate that blues are not easy to put over 164 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,200 "to the average club audience. 165 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,440 "They prefer something more in the twisting and jumping run. 166 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,720 "Once again, thank you for your interest 167 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,720 "in rhythm and blues and ourselves. 168 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,960 "It's wonderful music and deserves more recognition. 169 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,520 "Yours sincerely, Brian Jones for Rolling Stones." 170 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Mick and Keith moved into the flat that Brian had. 171 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,880 And Brian and Keith slept in a double bed in the front room 172 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,240 and Mick slept in a single bed in the middle room. 173 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,480 And then there was a kitchen, which was a disaster. 174 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,840 And it was a very severe winter that year, '62, 175 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,600 and we used to give him shillings to put in the bloody meter 176 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,040 for the one little electric fire. 177 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Brian used to say, "What's the point of getting out of bed 178 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,840 "when it's so fucking cold? We might as well stay in bed!" 179 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,520 So they used to get the guitars and stay in bed 180 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,600 and play guitar in bed. 181 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,160 Luckily, we had nothing else to do. 182 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,480 And since we were down to thieving potatoes out of supermarkets anyway 183 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,480 and selling beer bottles back to the off-licence, 184 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,960 there was nothing else to do except push on, you know, and just... 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,440 I mean, it had to get better, even if it didn't get fantastic. 186 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,360 You know, it was difficult. 187 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,280 But I mean, it was fun too, since we were determined 188 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,160 that we were going to stick together and play. 189 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,760 Despite everything, 190 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,360 Brian was always tried to keep his parents' approval. 191 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,800 "Dear Mum and Dad, many thanks for your letters 192 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,120 "and a thousand apologies for not writing back before now. 193 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,640 "Being leader and spokesman for the Stones 194 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,960 "means I'm always busy and tied up. 195 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,680 "If it's possible, I would like to see you next Monday or Tuesday. 196 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:33,400 "But I warn you, my hair is pretty long, although not untidy." 197 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,120 "Success seems to be on its way, 198 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,120 "though none of us are too happy about 'Come On'." 199 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,240 # Everything is wrong since me and my baby parted 200 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,160 # All day long I'm walking cos I couldn't get my car started 201 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,200 # Laid off from my job and... # 202 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,560 "This record does not do justice to the group." 203 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:59,960 Brian would invite his mother and father to the Stones concerts. 204 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:01,800 But they never came. 205 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,040 And Brian taught Keith to play with him. 206 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,200 You know, all the linking notes. 207 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,880 There they go. 208 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,000 See, one's going up and the other one's coming down. 209 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,400 When one's coming down, he's going up. 210 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,960 And it's so beautiful. It's so perfect what they're doing. 211 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,800 We did a song called Mona, which is a Bo Diddley song. 212 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,040 And you got... You'll have to excuse me, that's my bloody... 213 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,960 It's switched itself off now, thank goodness. 214 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,560 He learned to play along with the tremolo. 215 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,560 You know, the - doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. 216 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,320 And in time. 217 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,880 And so you'll hear it on Mona here. 218 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,440 # Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. 219 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,040 See? 220 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,880 No-one was doing that then. 221 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,080 # Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. # 222 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,760 He was a fucker, you know. 223 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,280 He would be really horrible sometimes. 224 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,840 He had one side of him, which I have to say was really, 225 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,400 I wouldn't say evil, but he was really cruel sometimes. 226 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,600 There's photos of us being photographed 227 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,200 and Brian's over the top of me dropping cigarette ash on my head. 228 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,400 But he used to do things like that. 229 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,200 And not only to me, but to everybody. 230 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,040 He always had to prove himself. He was embarrassed about his size. 231 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,120 And if he didn't get his way, 232 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,720 he kind of used to get very aggressive 233 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,240 and then he'd be all apologetic and, "Sorry, man, I didn't mean it." 234 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,480 He'd stubbed that cigarette out on the back of your hand in the car... 235 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,320 ..and you'd always forgive him because he was such a nice, sweet guy. 236 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,160 Brian had immense opposition from his father. 237 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,760 His dad didn't like him trying to be a musician. 238 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,960 They just thought, get a proper job. You know, the same old thing. 239 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,080 Up to a certain point, 240 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,120 Brian was a perfectly normal, conventional boy, 241 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,480 who was well behaved and was well liked. 242 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,640 Liked, I suppose, because he was well behaved. 243 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:32,000 He did his studies and he was quite a model schoolboy. 244 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,240 And then there came this peculiar change in his early teens, 245 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,080 at the time, I suppose, he began to become a man, 246 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:45,800 where he began to get some resentment of authority. 247 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,880 It was a rebellion against parental authority 248 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,600 and it was certainly a rebellion against the school authority. 249 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:59,040 He often used to say, why should he do something he was told 250 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,080 just because the person who was telling him was older? 251 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,000 From being an A grade student, Brian rebelled. 252 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,680 He failed in his studies and put all his energy into music 253 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:12,680 and picking up girls. 254 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:15,600 He played occasionally clarinet in the school orchestra, 255 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,240 but Brian was not really interested in anything else at the school. 256 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,560 Not in athletics. Not in any sports. 257 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,560 Not in the cadet force, 258 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,120 not in debating societies or anything like that. 259 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,200 He kept himself to himself quite a bit at school, I would say. 260 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,280 In the beginning of the '60s, it was one society, 261 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,640 just this mono culture, and it was our generation who went beyond that. 262 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,680 It's a level of sort of middle class tightness, 263 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,480 which you don't possibly see so much any more. 264 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,240 He had a pretty bad relationship with his parents, 265 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,040 who were very respectable, very straight, very posh. 266 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,960 But he used to say he just couldn't stand it. 267 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,120 The problem with Brian was that he came from a very, very bourgeois family... 268 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,560 ..who saw themselves as better than the neighbours 269 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,880 and better than this and better than that. 270 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:54,360 All the time, his fanaticism for jazz music was coming to the fore. 271 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,320 It was a great disappointment to us and a source of considerable anxiety 272 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,720 when he became so wrapped up in his love of jazz music 273 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,480 that in spite of everything we could do or say, 274 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,880 he went off and did it. 275 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,520 # Wop-bop-a-loo-mop alop-bom-bom 276 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,600 # Tutti frutti, oh rutti 277 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,200 # Tutti frutti, woo 278 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,640 # Tutti frutti, oh rutti 279 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,360 # Tutti frutti, oh rutti 280 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,920 # Tutti frutti, oh rutti 281 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,000 # Awop-bop-a-loo-mop alop-bom-bom... # 282 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,640 # Tutti frutti, oh rutti 283 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,200 # Tutti frutti, woo 284 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,760 # Tutti frutti, oh rutti 285 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,400 # Tutti frutti, oh rutti 286 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,520 # Tutti frutti, oh rutti... # 287 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,360 Frustrated by his parents' disapproval, 288 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,960 Brian adopted Val's family and spent all his time playing blues music. 289 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,560 Val Corbett, yes, I knew her very well. 290 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,320 She was rather stylish and I thought she was rather nice. 291 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,960 Brian was quite besotted with her 292 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,800 and she, of course, was besotted with him. 293 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,800 They were obviously made for each other. 294 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,680 The next thing we heard was that Val was pregnant 295 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,960 and she at first was terribly pleased 296 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,080 because she and Brian were going to leave Cheltenham, 297 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,080 go and live in London and get a place together. 298 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,800 And suddenly it dawned on her that wasn't going to happen. 299 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:23,400 On December the 22nd, 1960, Brian, aged 17, was kicked out of his home. 300 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,120 His father would later refer to this as 301 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,480 "my most drastic of all actions, 302 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,600 "which I shall never forget or cease to worry over." 303 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,360 Brian, now rejected by his parents, 304 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,880 moved in with Pat and her sister, Betty, 305 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,720 and was looked after by their parents. 306 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,280 This became a pattern of Brian's behaviour - 307 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,080 adopting other families, getting the daughters pregnant and then leaving. 308 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,120 This would happen at least five times. 309 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:13,240 Do you feel bitter at all? 310 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,520 I'm not actually bitter. 311 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,600 I feel quite sorry for Brian in a way, 312 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,600 because the kind of person he is, 313 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,840 you can never be happy, could never have true friends. 314 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,360 The only friends he has probably like him because of what he is. 315 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:32,320 I think if he was turned out on to the streets, nobody would want to know Brian. 316 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,480 He's not the kind of person that you take to 317 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,440 because he's so cynical. 318 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,440 He's got no feelings for anybody. 319 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,040 He just uses people for his own good. 320 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 And when he's finished, he throws them aside. 321 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,720 So I just feel sorry for him. 322 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,400 Brian's own life mirrored the rebellious spirit of the Stones 323 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,560 more than any other member. 324 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,600 Expelled from two schools. 325 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,560 Thrown out of his home. 326 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,680 A reckless personal life. 327 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,960 The blues was Brian's salvation. 328 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,000 # Oh, a child's coming 329 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,440 # He's going to be, going to be a rollin' stone 330 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,600 # He's going to be a rollin' stone... # 331 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,600 # Well, I feel 332 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,800 # Yes, I feel. # 333 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,360 CHEERING 334 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,840 Tell us something about him, Brian. 335 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,440 When we started playing together, 336 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,280 we started playing because we wanted to play rhythm and blues. 337 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,680 And Howlin' Wolf was one of our greatest idols. 338 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,800 And it's a great pleasure to finally be booked on this show tonight... Thanks to Howlin' Wolf. 339 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,200 So I think it's about time you shut up and we had Howlin' Wolf onstage. 340 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,720 I agree! Let's get him on. Howlin' Wolf! 341 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,840 It was a huge deal for those guys 342 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,720 because they'd just never really been on TV. 343 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,920 To be there are peak time in America, 344 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,440 that was an incredibly big deal. 345 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,360 # How many more years 346 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,400 # Have I got to let you dog me around? 347 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,520 # How many more years 348 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,200 # Have I got to let you dog me around? # 349 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,240 It's an incredible moment and there are still people 350 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,560 who put it as one of the greatest TV moments of the 1960s. 351 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,440 There's a great period in the first couple of years 352 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,800 where he seemed to have real insight. 353 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,160 And I'm talking about 1961, 1962. 354 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,520 # I'll try to show it if you're driving me back 355 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,520 # Your love for me has got to be real 356 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,200 # For you to know just how I feel 357 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,960 # Love for real and not fade away... # 358 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,760 So you worked out both the keys of open tunings of blues, 359 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,360 which is D slash E, which is open D or E, 360 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:48,160 which is Elmore James, and he was open G, 361 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,880 which is Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson. 362 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,040 # I'm going to tell you how it's going to be 363 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,200 # You're going to give your love to me 364 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,600 # Love to last more than one day... # 365 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,120 So what did we do for the fifth single? 366 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,680 We wanted to do a blues and everybody said, 367 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,400 "Don't do it because you'll destroy your career. 368 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,760 "No-one's ever done a blues record for a single in England." 369 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,720 You know, it's the worst thing. 370 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Like they said to Ray Charles, "Don't do a country album because it will destroy you." 371 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,080 And it was the greatest thing he ever did. 372 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Well, when we did Little Red Rooster... 373 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,040 ..they said, you know, "You're going to kill yourself." 374 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,440 It came out on the Friday and on the Monday it was number one. 375 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,960 And Brian... 376 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,960 ..controlled the whole band. I'll start again. 377 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,440 That's Brian with a slide. 378 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,680 See, he's doing it. 379 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,120 # I am the little red rooster... # 380 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,400 What is anybody else doing? 381 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,720 See, he's making the song. 382 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,800 # Everybody wants somebody 383 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,360 # Everybody needs somebody 384 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:20,920 # To love... # 385 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,960 So we were completely unique. 386 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,000 # Someone to kiss 387 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,440 # Oh, yeah 388 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,240 # Sometimes a miss 389 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,160 # Someone to please 390 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,120 # And sometimes a squeeze 391 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,680 # I need you, you, you 392 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,440 # I need you, you, you 393 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,280 # I need you... # 394 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Bo Diddley couldn't believe how good we were. 395 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,640 # You, you, you 396 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,800 # Sometimes I feel like 397 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,200 # I get a little sad inside 398 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,520 # When my baby mistreats me 399 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,040 # I kind of get a little bit mad 400 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,840 # I need you... # 401 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,920 AUDIENCE: Rolling Stones! Rolling Stones! Rolling Stones! 402 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,920 # Oh, Carol, don't let him steal your heart away 403 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,320 # I'm going to learn to dance if it takes me all night and day 404 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,960 # Climb into my machine so we can groove on out 405 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,480 # I know some swinging little joint where we can jump and shout 406 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,280 # It's not too far back... # 407 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,880 There was rioting whenever the Stones played. 408 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,840 It was an outpouring of emotion against the authorities 409 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,800 and the traditional ways of doing things. 410 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,600 # A little cutie takes your hat and you can thank her ma'am... # 411 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,440 The way the Stones looked and dressed, 412 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,720 their hair and sexuality, was a whole new feeling. 413 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,480 Everyone fancied both Brian and Mick, both male and female. 414 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,800 They had this extraordinary androgynous quality. 415 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,840 # I'm going to learn to dance if it takes me all night and day... # 416 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,880 SCREAMING AND SHOUTING 417 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,960 Brian met Linda Lawrence in 1962 and was adopted into her family. 418 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,800 I only saw him. 419 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,480 Yeah, and heard him. 420 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,480 The sound was what I was connecting to 421 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,400 and it was the harmonica and the slide guitar. 422 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,440 The first time I'd ever heard that kind of music 423 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,120 or felt that kind of feeling, it was just... 424 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:12,760 Just amazing. 425 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,320 Yeah, a whole feeling came over me that I'd never felt before. 426 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,800 # My days are pretty rough 427 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,480 # I want you to come back, come back, come back... # 428 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,360 It was instant. 429 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,560 Like, if you can call it love. 430 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,840 At the time, I wouldn't have known what that was, but now I do. 431 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,480 There was a point that came where he said, 432 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,560 "Can I come stay with you in Windsor with your parents?" 433 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,760 And I said, "Yeah." 434 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Yeah, my parents loved him. 435 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,720 # Somebody stop this pain in my heart 436 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,600 # My, my, my, my, my, my 437 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,640 # Don't you know, one day 438 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,440 # My days are pretty rough 439 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,240 # Won't you love me? 440 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,760 # Love me. # 441 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080 Most of the time it was all about music 442 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,720 and what records he's going to get. 443 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,120 And how he was going to play this and, you know... 444 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:33,600 And I would often put the records on over and over again 445 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,360 so that he could get the riffs and things. 446 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,600 Put it back on and have a listen and get the sound. 447 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,280 Seeing them get more and more popular 448 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,320 and more and more people coming to see them, 449 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,440 it was very exciting. 450 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,880 SCREAMING 451 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,200 And we got very, very much in love. 452 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,400 He was loved by so many people. I didn't mind that. 453 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,080 I knew he loved me, so I didn't care. 454 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,040 And I knew we were young. 455 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,920 I just knew he loved me. 456 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,320 And I... 457 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,520 I felt like it's OK. 458 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880 You know, he'll be back. 459 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,680 Brian's rivalry with Mick 460 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,000 for leadership of the Stones was growing. 461 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Mick was the natural frontman 462 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,880 and Brian's insecurity played into this. 463 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,880 A visible friction grew up between them. 464 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,440 It began to dominate Brian's thinking. 465 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,800 Brian sent me to a modelling course for a little while in London 466 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,160 and I had taken the hairdressing course. 467 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,240 So I was really into hair and I was saying, 468 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,240 "Just grow your hair, don't cut it", you know. 469 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,520 And then when it did get quite long, I would trim it, 470 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,880 but not cut it, and make that shape. 471 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,960 He was like a gentleman. 472 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,560 He was all dressed in his white shirt and his jacket 473 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,680 and he was open doors. 474 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,200 It was that kind of... Very gentlemanly and gentle spoken. 475 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,080 He had a family, obviously. 476 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,040 And after a while, we drove down. 477 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,640 He wanted me to meet his parents. 478 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,280 And I know he didn't take many people down to meet his parents, 479 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,520 so I knew it was something special. 480 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,440 Did you feel that Brian cared a lot what his parents thought? 481 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,160 Oh, very much. 482 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,920 That was the whole thing, that he really did want them 483 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,600 to like what he was doing and, you know, be proud of him. 484 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,000 That was the whole point, I think, of us going there. 485 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200 They wanted him to have a different career. 486 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:40,800 Something more like what his father had been doing - a good paying job. 487 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,200 But Brian kind of saw that and he kind of rebelled 488 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,440 and stepped out of it. 489 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,120 # I warned you baby from time to time 490 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,600 # You don't listen so pay me no mind 491 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,480 # About moving on 492 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,520 # Yeah, I'm moving on... # 493 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,120 We became the love generation 494 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,280 and the music was going to be the opening. 495 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,600 # Mister Engineer with your throttle in hand 496 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,080 # Take me back to that Southern land 497 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,800 # It's called moving 498 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,200 # Keep a rolling on 499 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,240 # You're flying too high 500 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,280 # For my old sky I'll move on. # 501 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,040 Dawn Molloy was the mother of Brian's fifth child. 502 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,040 I was 18. 503 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,120 I don't think I'd ever been in love before. 504 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,840 Every time I saw him, my heart skipped a beat. 505 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,840 And every time we saw me, he... 506 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,720 It was obvious that he wanted me. 507 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,440 Being a Catholic, I was very... 508 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,800 ..inhibited. 509 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,040 He kind of got that out of me. 510 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,800 Not to be ashamed of my body and what I could do. 511 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,360 He was very, very sexy. 512 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,200 Yeah, the way he made love, he just was insatiable. 513 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,160 He made me feel... 514 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,680 ..amazing. 515 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,440 He just made me feel... 516 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,200 ..loved and special. 517 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,920 He was an amazing teacher 518 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960 of how you should make love to a woman. 519 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,640 My parents, they had such a thing against... 520 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,120 ..long-haired pop stars. 521 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,040 "Oh, this music's no good." 522 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,200 You know how it is. They didn't want any of it. 523 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,320 I never dreamed he'd come to our apartment. 524 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,520 There he was, on the doorstep. 525 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,640 "Good evening, Mrs Malloy." 526 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,520 And kissed her hand. 527 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,320 I mean, who does that? 528 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,760 It's just... 529 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,960 He had suave. 530 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,400 They liked him in the end. 531 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,200 Then my mum said, "Well, why don't you go down to your bedroom? 532 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,360 "Show Brian your bedroom." 533 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,840 # I'm going to tell you how it's going to be... # 534 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,320 And then he turned around and asked my parents 535 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,320 if he could take me on tour. 536 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,840 There's no way my dad is going to let me go. 537 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,560 But my dad said, 538 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,440 "Well, you know, as long as you're in a different room 539 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,120 "and you take care of her, it's OK." 540 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,920 The security wasn't around, 541 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,080 so you could just walk into a hotel and the girls were everywhere. 542 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,400 We went to our room and there's this girl there 543 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,720 and she's just sitting on the bed stark naked. 544 00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,880 And then we went into the bathroom and there's another one. 545 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,160 And they're willing to give everything to them. 546 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,760 The police had no idea what hit them. 547 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440 They were completely taken by surprise. 548 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,480 And it was terrifying. 549 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,720 I could see all their feet, 550 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,160 trampling on people in stiletto heels, 551 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,120 going for his arms and stuff. 552 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,280 I thought I was going to die. 553 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,360 It was like being in a tube train and you can't move. 554 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,280 I think Mick lost some hair. 555 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,480 They pulled... Literally pulled hair out of his head. 556 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,120 And I started to fall back and I fell back and Mick caught me. 557 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,280 Brian was looking for me, so he came around the corner 558 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,640 and saw me in the arms of Mick. 559 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,120 And then... 560 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,720 ..Brian lost it. 561 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:46,560 "Keep your hands off my fucking girl! You're not having all my girlfriends!" 562 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,240 And all that kind of stuff. 563 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,440 Mick said, "Hey, I'm just holding her, you know. She just fell. 564 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,320 "Don't be a dick", you know? 565 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,400 And then Bill said, "Yeah, sometimes you get like that. 566 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,840 "You just have to leave him, he'll be fine." 567 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,640 Everybody went through their... 568 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,520 ..star trip, you know. 569 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:11,240 And I think Brian was the only one that it changed 570 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:15,480 in a really deep way and probably not for the better. 571 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,400 It was very difficult for him, you know, 572 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,440 and not made any easier probably by the rest of us, you know, 573 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,160 because nobody had the time to look after somebody else. 574 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,880 If one of them isn't quite strong enough to deal with that situation 575 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,720 there's very little you can do to help him. 576 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,760 They were all a little wary, I think, of Brian 577 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,840 because he could be kind of moody. 578 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,120 But I think they put that on him 579 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,560 because he was supposed to be the leader 580 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,880 and he was no longer the leader. 581 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,240 Mick ruled the roost as far as what they were going to play 582 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:06,240 and the fact that he could write music and Brian couldn't. 583 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,560 I think there may have been a little jealousy there. 584 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,840 The fact that Mick and Keith were so close. 585 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,760 # Yeah, yeah, yeah 586 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,560 # I feel all right 587 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,440 # I feel all right, children... # 588 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,480 I think they were a little bit lost until Andrew came along. 589 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,720 And then Andrew kind of laid down the law 590 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:29,680 and said what he wanted to do, which was all very well. 591 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,400 And I thought that was a good idea to have a manager, 592 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560 but I don't think Brian realised 593 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,760 that he would be handing everything over to him. 594 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,920 They had two different ideas of what they wanted to do. 595 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,000 Brian loved Howlin' Wolf and he wanted to stay as a blues group. 596 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,360 Andrew wanted them to be pop. 597 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,080 MUSIC: Little Red Rooster by The Rolling Stones 598 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,800 And I think Andrew and Brian just didn't hit it off. 599 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,000 And I think they just got into loggerheads. 600 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,520 Pop sold. 601 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,960 And obviously Andrew wanted to make money. 602 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,480 Thank you. 603 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,160 "Dear Melinda, 604 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,080 "Mick is the head of the group. 605 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,640 "At one time I was, but Mick took over. 606 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,280 "Don't ask me why. We just thought it would be better, 607 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,960 "as he is a good leader. 608 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,200 "Mick's birthday was on the 26th of July. 609 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,280 "I must rush, dear, honestly. 610 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,440 "Brian Jones." 611 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,520 I guess he was a little jealous of Mick because he was... 612 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,160 He had all the fame sort of thing. 613 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,040 But I don't think Brian realised that he had just as much too. 614 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,120 FANS SCREAM 615 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,720 # Oh, Carol 616 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,040 # Don't let him steal your heart away 617 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,360 # I'm gonna learn to dance 618 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,040 # If it takes me all night and day 619 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,280 # Climb into my machine so we can groove on out... # 620 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,320 MUSIC DROWNED BY SCREAMS 621 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,360 I think he would've liked to have been like Mick, 622 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,880 but then no-one's like Mick. 623 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,520 He has this charisma about him, he has amazing energy. 624 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,520 # A little cutie takes your hat and you can thank her, ma'am... # 625 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,040 SCREAMING 626 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,160 I understand, Brian, because I think he was a lost person. 627 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,800 The success of the Stones was unbelievable. 628 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,360 But at a time when Brian could have celebrated the success 629 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,640 of the band he had founded, he was locked in conflict 630 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,720 with problems of his own creation. 631 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,000 The reason I found out about Linda was because I was told 632 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,480 to go to Torquay. 633 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,000 And then Stu told me, no, I couldn't go in and see him 634 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000 because Linda was there with the baby. 635 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,400 I'm like, "What... Whose baby?", you know? 636 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,000 He said, "Well, Brian's." 637 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,480 # Well, you know my lovin' not fade away... # 638 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,640 Fame is a very strange thing. 639 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,120 And he wanted that as well. 640 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,840 And so that was the choice 641 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,160 he had to make. 642 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,880 And... 643 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,040 And he did. 644 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,040 FANS SCREAM, GUITAR CHORDS 645 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,040 I was at all the gigs. 646 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,000 The other girlfriends weren't allowed to come, 647 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,040 but I would always be at the gig. 648 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,440 The last one that I was at before I had Julian 649 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,320 was the Bo Diddley concert. 650 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,360 # Hey, Bo Diddley Hey, Bo Diddley 651 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,120 # Hey, Bo Diddley Hey, Bo Diddley 652 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,160 # Hey, Bo Diddley Hey, Bo Diddley 653 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,040 # Hey, Bo Diddley Hey, Bo Diddley 654 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,040 # I got a girl lived on a hill Hey, Bo Diddley... # 655 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,840 I bonded so well with Bo Diddley 656 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,280 and it was all fantastic. 657 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,040 They thought that Brian and I were getting married. 658 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,960 I thought we were getting married. 659 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,040 So it was a bit of a shock when Andrew Oldham came in and said, 660 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,440 "You can't have girlfriends and wives and, you know, it's..." 661 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Because I knew that he loved me 662 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,400 and it was really hard to understand. 663 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,680 And I kept saying to myself, "Well, I have to let go 664 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,800 "and he'll be back." 665 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,200 And my dad, when he left, said, 666 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,040 "And there's no-one to look after him now." 667 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,800 Brian tormented himself because 668 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,240 he couldn't write songs 669 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:16,880 like Mick and Keith, 670 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,400 whose compositions had moved the band on to a whole new level. 671 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,640 Say hi to Brian. 672 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,480 Brian is one of the writers of most of the things, right? 673 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,360 No, I'm not, actually... Well, I'm not really a writer. 674 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,320 Ah, we do write a lot of stuff together - 675 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,280 it comes out under the Nanker Phelge pseudonym - 676 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,880 but Mick and Keith write more...many of our... Thank you, Bill. 677 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,800 They're a little more industrious than we are. 678 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,720 In writing the songs that you write, do you sometimes think that you have 679 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,600 a special inspiration for the way that you... 680 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,360 Well, you'd better ask - about writing songs - better address those 681 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,040 questions to Mick and Keith because they'll tell me more about it. 682 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,840 But the ones we've written together are just things we've worked out 683 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,160 together in the studio, with somebody, you know, anyone 684 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,760 that's had an idea. If you had to do it all over again, do you think 685 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,240 you'd go the same route again? As far as, you know, now that you 686 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,840 realise the demands that are put on you as a tremendous success? 687 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,680 I'd do it 100 times over, if I could. I love it. 688 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,720 Good. Thank you so much. 689 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:04,520 Let me swing over here and talk to Keith and to Mick. 690 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,240 These are the two that are supposed to be all the writing talent. 691 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:09,800 You fellows get together and do most of the writing, right? 692 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,160 Yeah, that's right. A lot of it. You know, some of it. 693 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,160 Do you have a particular inspiration for some of your songs that seem 694 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,520 to springboard them out? 695 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,800 Well, I don't know. Ask Keith. 696 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,760 I don't really think so, no. 697 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,520 It just happens, you know? It just happens. 698 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,560 Mick and Keith are wonderful songwriters. 699 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,920 I mean, they're just great. 700 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,280 Extraordinary. 701 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,080 I mean, I couldn't admire them more. 702 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,000 They tended to write more about sex. 703 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,120 So from '64, '84... 704 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,280 Like, for 20 years they were just turning them out. 705 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,320 I mean, they're classic rock and roll songs. 706 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,000 I'd rate it as extraordinary. 707 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,080 You see, the trouble was by 1963, 708 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,160 when Mick and Keith were writing the songs and all that, 709 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,200 Andrew was trying to promote Keith 710 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,760 and kind of dismiss Brian, get Brian out of the way. 711 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,760 And so what he did was he stopped me, Charlie and Brian 712 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,560 from doing any interviews with any of the newspapers, any interviews 713 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,680 at all, and gave them all to Mick and Keith. 714 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,000 And I think when we talked on the phone ages ago, you mentioned 715 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,000 that he did something with Jimi Hendrix. 716 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,560 Erm... Yes. 717 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,920 Some playing. Yeah. 718 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,840 No-one knows that. 719 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,200 What do I say? 720 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,960 GUITAR INSTRUMENTAL 721 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,840 And I got Brian trying to write a song with that guy, 722 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,680 Michael Aldred, of Ready Steady Go! 723 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,480 But they're unique things that I just happened to get, and... 724 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,840 ..they shouldn't be... Was the song good? 725 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,640 Yeah, they were putting a song together. It was OK, yeah. 726 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,640 But he never had the courage to record it. 727 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,400 LAUGHTER 728 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,160 BRIAN: Oh, fucking hell, turn it off! 729 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,800 SONG PLAYS ON TAPE 730 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,920 HE STOPS PLAYING GUITAR 731 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,920 BRIAN: No. It's difficult... 732 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,040 Oh, let's get... 733 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:15,760 Bleurgh! 734 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,240 He never played me a song he'd written, so it was quite hard 735 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:25,720 to know really if he wanted to do songs with us that he'd written. 736 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:29,360 I think he did, but he was very shy and all that, I think he found it 737 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,680 rather hard to lay it down to us, you know, that "This was a song and 738 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,120 "it went like this." 739 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,800 And we probably sort of didn't even think - because he didn't do it, 740 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,440 we didn't try and bring it out of him, probably, 741 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,880 which was... 742 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,760 ..I suppose a bit insensitive of us. 743 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,440 MUSIC: Ne Cherche Pas by Zouzou 744 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,040 BLUES GUITAR 745 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,040 MUSIC: You Know My Name by The Beatles 746 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,480 Each member of the band had a had a court. 747 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,440 And the way the hierarchy worked was the Stones would always 748 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,320 have to go to the Beatles' places. 749 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,040 So the Beatles would never go to their house. 750 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,000 You know, that was the order of things, 751 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,280 a very strict class system at work. HE LAUGHS 752 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,480 FANS SCREAM 753 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,000 I think he liked drinking and I think he liked drugs 754 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,560 but they weren't very good for him. 755 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,520 I don't think they're good for anyone, but he didn't... 756 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,200 He wasn't strong enough, mentally or physically, 757 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:54,360 to take any of it. 758 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,960 And of course he did everything... 759 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,840 Brian was one of those people that did everything to excess. 760 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,240 And remember, no matter what anyone says... 761 00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:00,440 ..rock on. 762 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:06,160 # I can't get no satisfaction 763 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,960 # I can't get no satisfaction... # 764 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,640 The trouble with Brian was he wasn't very well a lot of the time. 765 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,640 So he was often ill. 766 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,000 We'd be on tour and Brian would get sick, and he'd be in 767 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,560 hospital for five days and we had to play without him. 768 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,360 Just the four of us, you know. 769 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,080 Bass, drum, guitar. 770 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,560 And you're playing all them songs that need more than one guitar, 771 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,160 and you've only got one guitar. 772 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,840 So I had to double-up on bass, the bass playing, 773 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,160 and help Keith out, you know, 774 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,960 and Keith had to play a bit more than he would normally play, 775 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,400 playing partly rhythm, partly lead. 776 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,240 It was tough, you know. 777 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,240 So he was very unreliable at times in the later period of his life. 778 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,840 You know, the last...maybe three years. 779 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,520 Brian used to get very paranoid about being made fun of. 780 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,440 You know, he always said, "They're talking about me and they're..." 781 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,120 You know, when we were waiting in a... 782 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,160 When we were staying over in a hotel or something. 783 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,280 The classic example that I had of that was at the hotel in New York 784 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,320 when Dylan was coming to visit him. 785 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,200 You know, he was very friendly with Dylan. 786 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,720 So Mick and Keith - Brian's room was next to mine, 787 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,240 so Mick and Keith came into my room. 788 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,760 They said, "Oh...", and they were very devilish. 789 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,680 And Keith goes over and grabs a water glass that I had, 790 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,040 and he puts it against the wall so he could listen in to Brian's room. 791 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,560 And Mick goes over to the house telephone, my phone in the room, 792 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,440 and calls Brian's room. 793 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,920 And then immediately he says, "Hello, Mr Jones. 794 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,240 "You have Mr Zimmerman for Mr Jones." 795 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,400 And he was imitating putting Dylan on the phone. 796 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,920 And then when he was on the phone, he says, "Oh, Brian, I think 797 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,240 "you're the best guy in the group," that kind of... 798 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,640 And Brian's like, "Shut up, you guys! I know you're..." 799 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,040 And that was the kind of stuff that was going on. 800 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,560 MUSIC: There But For Fortune by Marianne Faithful 801 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,080 # Show me the train.... # 802 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,000 Already there had been shit going on. 803 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,960 You know, Brian was in very bad shape. 804 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,000 He couldn't get into the States. 805 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,640 And they didn't know what to do, and this and that and the other, 806 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,240 you know, of just scrambling all the way along. 807 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,640 It wasn't as bad as it was going to get later. 808 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,200 Well, I read an interesting thing Keith said about this, 809 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,000 that they started making fun of Brian so as not to get mad at him. 810 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,840 Ah... Because it was a way... 811 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,320 But I mean, of course, for somebody who's paranoid, 812 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,800 this is just about the worst thing you can do. 813 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,480 But I mean that was Mick and Keith's, apparently, 814 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,040 attitude to this thing, you know? 815 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,400 Well, because, you know, I mean if anybody had really let 816 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,000 their feelings go, they would've killed him. Mm-hm. 817 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,040 And he would have killed them too. Mm-hm. 818 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,960 I mean, it was that bad. 819 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,480 I think Marianne sympathised with Brian. 820 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,320 And Marianne of course was not in much better shape because of drugs. 821 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,960 She knew him very well and had, you know, had an affair with him. 822 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,600 Marianne felt that she had become a real drag on Mick. 823 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:51,760 And there's a horrible conversation where she overhears Ahmet Ertegun 824 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,800 saying to Mick, "You've got to get rid of Marianne, 825 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,080 "you know, if the band is going to function. 826 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,040 "It's having a really negative effect." 827 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,360 And so in that sense I think she absolutely identified with Brian. 828 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,800 Anita Pallenberg was a massive influence on Brian. 829 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,960 She was credited with transforming both Brian and the Stones. 830 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:18,080 She was an incredibly interesting person, who'd done a lot, 831 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,560 and was on the make, in the way that he was. 832 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:26,840 And she craved new experiences, you know, in the way that he was. 833 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,680 But I think he was thinking of leaving the band. 834 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,280 I think he probably could have and probably should have left 835 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,440 the band for his own, you know, health and sanity. 836 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,520 But I think, by teaming up with Anita, he knew they'd be 837 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,480 a real phenomenon, which they were. 838 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,440 And that really launched his kind of last great... 839 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,840 Last great ride. 840 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,320 Oui, oui, je le comprends. 841 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:55,520 There was such sort of...erotic power to their pairing 842 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,560 and such glamour. 843 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,960 And also, you know, he wants to be glamorous. 844 01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:03,360 He wanted to be seen as a main player in the Stones, 845 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,600 and she'd helped that happen. 846 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,000 She and Brian were, you know, like a little unit, 847 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,960 whispering, talking to each other, giggling, speaking in sort of 848 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,840 a code that, you know, intimate couples can have sometimes. 849 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,960 And I think they were doing a lot of acid and just hanging out. 850 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,480 She was staggeringly beautiful, 851 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:33,040 had extraordinary physical and sexual confidence. 852 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,880 You know, when she walked in a room, you know, guys' eyes popped out 853 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,560 and tongues rolled out, like in a cartoon. 854 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,120 The Rolling Stones, they were, as Marianne would put it, 855 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,080 were a bunch of yobs. 856 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,800 They were very talented, 857 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,960 but they weren't educated or sophisticated. 858 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:26,200 Marianne and Anita connected them with all the European intellectuals 859 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,080 and film-makers. 860 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,480 We were the right women for that time to enable whatever 861 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,360 had to happen to happen. 862 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,480 And probably the same is true of Brian and Anita 863 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,160 and Keith and Anita. 864 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,640 They seemed to be a proto-aristocracy. 865 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,880 Mick at one point said, 866 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,040 "Well, the only thing left is me and the Queen." 867 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,120 SITAR MUSIC 868 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,720 Brian and Anita would spend time at the vast Guinness estate 869 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,000 in Ireland. 870 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,840 This is Mick go-karting at Leslie Castle, 871 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,040 a massive Irish estate that has been in the Leslie family 872 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,320 for 1,000 years. 873 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,800 A whole new world opened up to them. 874 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,080 I think it was the great changing of the old order, wasn't it? 875 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,000 I loved the sort of mixture, 876 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,480 the juxtaposition then of the Stones and the Beatles 877 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,000 and the royals and the thing, you know? 878 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,080 It suddenly was all... 879 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,200 Everybody and anybody were part of the same thing. 880 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,360 It was excellent. 881 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,160 It was my sister Victoria's birthday, and that was a sort of 882 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:47,880 wonderful melting pot with the Kennedys and Princess Margaret 883 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:52,320 and the Beatles and the Stones and then all my relations. 884 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,720 Brian definitely came. 885 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,200 Brian was the most sort of sociable at that time. 886 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,840 He was much the most sort of gregarious. 887 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,560 So it was it was the informality, I think, of it that was part of 888 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,680 the whole thing of the '60s. 889 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:13,600 Never mind who was there, whether it was rock stars or royalty 890 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:18,400 or scrubbers from the East End. 891 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,360 It really didn't make any difference. 892 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,120 Brian's best friend at the time was Tara Browne. 893 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,960 He was the Guinness heir and owner of Dandie Fashions 894 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,520 on the King's Road. 895 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,160 The so-called Swinging London was actually a very small group 896 01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,640 of people, and Brian and Tara were right at the centre. 897 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,240 Tara was immortalised in the Beatles song A Day in the Life 898 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,560 when he had a tragic car accident. 899 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:56,040 # He blew his mind out in a car 900 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:02,240 # He didn't notice that the lights had changed 901 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,920 # A crowd of people stood and stared... # 902 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,000 Brian was devastated by Tara's death, 903 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,200 the first of that intimate circle. 904 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,840 Brian would later date his girlfriend, Suki Poitier, 905 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,280 who was with Tara in the accident but miraculously survived. 906 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,480 And we all wore the Dandie Fashions look, 907 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,120 which was so much the spirit of the time. 908 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,640 Anita was pushing him to dress more outrageously. 909 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,760 He was the archetypal dandy, 910 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,760 more than anyone, you know, in '66, '67. 911 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,520 At that point you can see the power dynamics shift 912 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,680 within the band, where Keith is coming back to Brian again. 913 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,040 BRIAN PLAYS THE PIANO 914 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,760 So for a period, yeah, he was back with Keith, because he was cool 915 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,000 and happening, and obviously at that time they did Ruby Tuesday. 916 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,840 He was doing all that stuff without asking anyone. 917 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,080 He'd pick up a flute or just anything that was handy 918 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:35,000 and just create something out of it which wasn't there originally. 919 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,480 And it embellished the song so much that it became the catch. 920 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,480 MUSIC: Ruby Tuesday by The Rolling Stones 921 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,440 HE HUMS ALONG WITH FLUTE PART # Or in the darkest night 922 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,400 # No-one knows... # 923 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,040 BILL: # Do, doo! # Can you hear him? 924 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,960 # She comes and goes... # 925 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,720 # Do, do, do... # 926 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,800 # Goodbye, Ruby... # 927 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,320 He just finds a flute, 928 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,520 and he finds a little thing he can play on it. 929 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,960 Brian's self-loathing came out in the way he treated other people. 930 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:13,320 He and Anita particularly were known for spiking people's drinks. 931 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,280 Anita would encourage him for that kind of outrageous behaviour. 932 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,600 They would just mock people who hadn't... 933 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,200 Who weren't turned on in the same way that they were. 934 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,320 So that was a thing - "We're the hip kids - we can make fun 935 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,120 "of other people." 936 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,400 For instance, Linda Lawrence came. 937 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,880 I think she was short of money for young Julian. 938 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,960 I think they were up in the flat, Brian and Anita, 939 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:42,720 and they just laughed at her and wouldn't let her come in. 940 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:32,120 So whilst he could still make things happen in the studio, 941 01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:36,320 he still was holding some power even whilst he was this kind of liability 942 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,040 at the same time. 943 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,400 You know, he was pretty dominant in terms of the sounds. 944 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,720 You know, they needed to get a bit more exotic. 945 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,960 Paint It Black, he's embellished it again. 946 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,880 MUSIC: Paint It Black by The Rolling Stones 947 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:51,960 Bass pedals. 948 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,680 There's Brian. 949 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,680 HE IMITATES SITAR 950 01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:01,920 # I see a line of cars and they're all painted black... # 951 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,240 HE HUMS THE TUNE 952 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,800 Your head goes into, like... 953 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,520 You're suddenly in the Middle East 954 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,040 or Far East... 955 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:19,400 That made me realise that there was a very inventive guy there. 956 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,040 I mean, he was really a... 957 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,560 ..bit of a genius. 958 01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:33,680 The Volker Schlondorff film Mord und Totschlag was a big deal 959 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,360 for Anita and for Brian. 960 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:40,040 It was a starring role for Anita, with a really good director, 961 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,240 and it was really pretty like their own - Brian and Anita's - 962 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,280 relationship, where there was this constant provocation 963 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,440 and escalation of provocation. 964 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,840 Hau ab jetzt. 965 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,000 When Keith went with Anita, Brian decided to start going out 966 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,080 with Linda Keith, who used to be Keith's girlfriend. 967 01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:28,360 All their relationships were 968 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,160 always slightly incestuous. 969 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,560 Marianne, you know, 970 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,160 when she gave up with Mick, she went with Brian... 971 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,080 ..and then she went with Keith. 972 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,960 So she went with three of them. 973 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,520 Anita went with Brian, she went with Mick, she went with Keith. 974 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,040 It was all very mixed up, you know? 975 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,440 Girls would end up being with another member of the band. 976 01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,360 Seeing the state of Brian, 977 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:03,240 his parents finally reached out to help him. 978 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,960 What I firmly believe was the turning point in Brian's life 979 01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:12,200 was when he lost the only girl he ever really loved. 980 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,800 When his mother and I saw him for the first time for some months 981 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:22,720 after this happening, we were quite shocked by the changes 982 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,360 of his appearance, and in our opinion 983 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,800 he was never the same boy again. 984 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,440 He changed suddenly and alarmingly 985 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:38,000 from a bright, enthusiastic young man to a quiet and morose 986 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,600 and inward-looking young man. 987 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,040 Brian and Linda Keith's relationship was tempestuous and drug-fuelled, 988 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,920 with Brian recovering from Anita and Linda from Keith. 989 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:58,920 Linda ended up taking an overdose in Brian's flat, which she survived. 990 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,320 Brian wrote this to her... 991 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,920 "Dearest darling Linda, I'm presently very smashed. 992 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,240 "Please be with me. 993 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,200 "I'm so lonely by myself. 994 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,680 "I need you so badly and I love you so much. 995 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,000 "Please understand what fucked us up before, 996 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,000 "a terrible combination of events. 997 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,120 "Please let's start again. 998 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,880 "Please marry me. Please, please, please. 999 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,160 "All my love, Brian." 1000 01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,960 It was a painful year, you know? 1001 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,640 '67 was a year of change for everybody. 1002 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,360 I mean, '67 was the explosion of the drug culture. 1003 01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:00,520 The whole infamous Stones drug bust all followed in the wake of 1004 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,920 News Of The World stories that prided themselves 1005 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,720 in actually busting Mick Jagger and proclaiming him a drug user. 1006 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,480 The problem was it wasn't Mick. It was Brian. 1007 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,400 He was hanging in a nightclub called Blazing and boasting 1008 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,520 about being a druggy hipster. 1009 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,960 He actually told the reporter he didn't do LSD much these days 1010 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:24,440 now that everybody had taken it up and, you know, he was doing 1011 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:26,120 it before anybody else. 1012 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,400 For Mick, Brian was the villain of the piece. 1013 01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:38,480 The only person who was really, really out of it on drugs was Brian. 1014 01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:40,000 This was like the last straw, 1015 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,760 the straw that broke the camel's back with Brian. 1016 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:45,640 And I think it brought up a lot of bad feelings that were already 1017 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,920 there about Brian. 1018 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,840 Mick didn't know he'd end up in prison. 1019 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,440 It was just dreadful. 1020 01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:55,360 But it was very frightening, because you saw the sort of the power 1021 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,440 of the state, the power of the status quo, 1022 01:18:57,440 --> 01:19:01,240 the whole thing coming down on them - for nothing. 1023 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,800 Mick was very, very, very desperate and just in... 1024 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,920 It was a horrible thing. 1025 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,960 I don't think he ever thought this sort of thing 1026 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,840 would ever happen to him in his life. 1027 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:19,120 And I must say, to my shame, I wasn't very compassionate at all. 1028 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,760 If you need to cry, you cry. 1029 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:26,040 It was a real moment of truth and vulnerability. 1030 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,520 Needless to say, he never, ever showed it again. 1031 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,280 The phone rings and it's Brian. 1032 01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,800 And he said, "I'm not going... I'm not going to come tomorrow." 1033 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,720 And I said... I said, "Huh? Why?" 1034 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,960 And he said, "Because they are so mean to me." 1035 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,120 And I said, "Who's so mean?" 1036 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:17,120 He said, "Mick and Keith, they are making my life hell." 1037 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:21,520 Naively, I said, "Well, what would the Rolling Stones be without you?" 1038 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,840 And anyway, I'm thinking, "What the fuck do we do with four 1039 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,600 "Rolling Stones if we really are looking at five Rolling Stones?" 1040 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,040 And so then he stopped, 1041 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:35,000 he listened and he stopped crying, 1042 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,000 and he said, "It's just been a hard day." 1043 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:38,640 And also, you don't know how much he's... 1044 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,720 I think he was drinking a lot. 1045 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,200 I convinced him to come the next day. 1046 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,720 There was something kind of childlike about him, 1047 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,560 because then he had dressed kind of like a wizard. 1048 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:54,720 Then when they got onstage at two in the morning, he was... 1049 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,400 I would say he was drunk because he looked it, 1050 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:04,360 and he could play the maracas and he could play the slide... 1051 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,080 ..he could hardly play the guitar in the regular way. 1052 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,680 He looked dreadful, really. 1053 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,520 His big bags under his eyes. 1054 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,560 I mean, really, bags under his eyes for a guy of 26. 1055 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,800 He was just gone. 1056 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,640 Well, he wouldn't turn up half the time. 1057 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,920 When he did turn up, he was not in any condition 1058 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,960 to do anything, had to baby him. 1059 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,200 And it was very sad. 1060 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,200 I saw him as another person with incredibly low self-esteem 1061 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,760 who needed help not to be destroyed and ground underfoot. 1062 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,600 And that's when I kind of realised what was going on 1063 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,080 and how it was going to affect me. 1064 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:57,440 That kind of ruthlessness, you know, the bit where they would pretend 1065 01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:00,680 to be recording Brian and not have him plugged in, 1066 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,080 that was really terrible. 1067 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,080 CROWD CLAMOURS 1068 01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:27,360 Both Marianne and Brian, they were victims of the Stones. 1069 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,600 She realised she was no longer useful... 1070 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:36,680 ..and he was especially horrified to be ostracised from his band. 1071 01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,880 A rock group is sort of like a, you know, a primitive tribe. 1072 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:14,760 People are often killed in tribes, psychically, if they're expelled. 1073 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,880 And a rock group is sort of like that. 1074 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:21,760 I mean, their whole lifeblood comes from that bond. 1075 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:27,120 Once they're of no use, that is...oddly fatal. 1076 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,560 Like, nobody wants to talk to them or deal with them. 1077 01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:34,440 They just go off into the woods and die. 1078 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,800 I felt like he was very much the underdog. 1079 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:44,680 He was lost and, you know, I just felt for him. 1080 01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,400 I felt that he had been... 1081 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,760 ..badly treated. 1082 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,760 I remember he had a dog. 1083 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,400 She was a spaniel. 1084 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,640 Such a sweet dog. 1085 01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:01,880 She was maybe about five years old, and she looked about 20 1086 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:06,920 because she'd eaten a cake with acid and she'd gone on a trip 1087 01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,680 that had lasted sort of months and months. 1088 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,760 You know, sad things that happen. 1089 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,880 Charlie phoned me up, phone went about three in the morning 1090 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:24,160 and he just said, "Brian died." 1091 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:28,920 I couldn't believe it, you know? 1092 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:33,960 It was such a blow that, you know, you just don't accept it for weeks. 1093 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,680 You can't really believe it's true. 1094 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,080 And I mean, I don't... 1095 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,040 I don't think we slept after that, 1096 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:41,920 we just laid and talked and... 1097 01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,040 Just couldn't understand it. 1098 01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:52,000 I think he'd been doing what he always used to do, 1099 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:56,160 and that was taken downers and doing heavy alcohol, 1100 01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,680 and fell asleep in the pool. 1101 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,800 It was basically that simple. 1102 01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:06,200 He got much nicer to... 1103 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,840 Just before he died, you know, the last few years of his life, 1104 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:14,080 I felt even sorrier for him for what we did to him then. 1105 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,640 We took his one thing away, which was being in a band. 1106 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,680 It really knocked us back. 1107 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:29,560 I mean, been with that cat for seven or eight years nonstop, you know? 1108 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,640 To have him suddenly removed completely. 1109 01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,920 Although it was a shock when it actually happened, 1110 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,600 nobody was really that surprised too. 1111 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,360 There are people... I'm sure that everybody's got those things 1112 01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,640 about certain people everybody knows people that... 1113 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,240 ..you just have that feeling that they're not going to be... 1114 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,880 they're not going to be 70 years old ever, you know? 1115 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:55,600 Not everybody makes it. 1116 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,560 I was just 20, 1117 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,880 and we were all incredibly shocked by Brian's death. 1118 01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:26,000 It was the first drug-alcohol casualty of our generation. 1119 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,920 We felt his death marked the end of the '60s, and the concert 1120 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,800 in the park which we all went to was very much the end of the '60s 1121 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:39,880 and a sort of mass funeral for everything that had gone before. 1122 01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,680 You just knew there was going to be a massive change, 1123 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,080 and Brian's death somehow was an emblem for that. 1124 01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:58,040 I flew to London immediately from Munich when I heard about it. 1125 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,480 I was there, and stayed with Anita and Keith in their house. 1126 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,840 We were talking and sitting and hugging. 1127 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:17,160 There was a mourning and sadness around all of them. 1128 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:25,080 It was a very emotional thing, the way they organised 1129 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:30,040 this farewell and goodbye, as if to say, 1130 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:34,000 "Now you're still - or again - one of us." 1131 01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,520 And Mick was very upset. 1132 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,320 APPLAUSE 1133 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,720 I just want to say something that was written by Shelley, 1134 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,200 and I think it goes with what happened to Brian. 1135 01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:58,280 Peace, peace! He is not dead, he does not sleep. 1136 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,160 He has awakened from the dreams of life. 1137 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,040 APPLAUSE 1138 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,240 Brian was so sensitive, really, 1139 01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:10,560 because Brian was so sensitive to everything, you know what I mean? 1140 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,360 I suppose there was a kind of feeling that I knew that Brian would... 1141 01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,120 If anyone was going to die, Brian was going to die. 1142 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,640 I mean, I always knew that Brian wouldn't really live that long. 1143 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,800 But he just... He lived his life very fast. 1144 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,920 He was... He was kind of like a butterfly. 1145 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:55,920 40 years after Brian died, a box of old letters addressed to Brian 1146 01:29:55,920 --> 01:30:00,080 were discovered in the attic of Linda Lawrence's family house. 1147 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,120 In it was this letter from Brian's father. 1148 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:09,760 "My dear Brian, we have had unhappy times 1149 01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:15,560 "and I have been a very poor and intolerant father in so many ways. 1150 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,320 "You grew up in such a different way from that 1151 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,320 "in which I expected you to. 1152 01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,560 "I was quite out of my depth. 1153 01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,680 "In my most drastic of all actions, 1154 01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,000 "which I shall never forget or cease to worry over, 1155 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,720 "I felt it was the only way to save my home 1156 01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,640 "and bring you to terms with yourself. 1157 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:46,120 "I don't suppose you will ever forgive me, but all I ask 1158 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:50,640 "is just a little of that affection I think you once had for me. 1159 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,360 "This is a very private and personal note. 1160 01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,040 "Don't trouble to reply. 1161 01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,440 "Love, Dad." 1162 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,920 MUSIC: Rollin' Stone by Muddy Waters 1163 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,280 # I'll be a rollin' stone 1164 01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,480 # You gonna be a rollin' stone 1165 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:29,800 # You gonna be a rollin' stone 1166 01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:33,320 # Oh, darn 1167 01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,800 # Sure 'nough, he gon' 1168 01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:39,760 # Oh, yeah 1169 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,480 # Well, I feel 1170 01:31:52,480 --> 01:31:55,720 # Yes, I feel 1171 01:31:55,720 --> 01:32:01,360 # Feel that I could lay down, oh, time ain't long 1172 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:06,480 # I'ma catch the first thing smokin' back 1173 01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:08,520 # Back down the road I'm goin' 1174 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,520 # Back down the road I'm goin' 1175 01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:14,720 # Back down the road I'm goin' 1176 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,240 # Oh, God, oh... #