1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:26,286 --> 00:00:28,089 KLANSMAN: Oh, yeah. 4 00:00:37,174 --> 00:00:38,309 All right. 5 00:00:52,138 --> 00:00:55,010 [somber orchestral music] 6 00:00:55,077 --> 00:00:57,549 ♪♪ ♪♪ 7 00:00:57,615 --> 00:01:00,622 PERSON: For 2,000 years, God Almighty 8 00:01:00,689 --> 00:01:03,995 has seen fit to have a separation of the races. 9 00:01:04,062 --> 00:01:07,334 Either you are for the white, or you are for the Black. 10 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:09,005 PERSON: Ladies and gentlemen, 11 00:01:09,071 --> 00:01:11,710 there is a white day coming in the United States. 12 00:01:11,777 --> 00:01:15,150 ♪♪ ♪♪ 13 00:01:15,217 --> 00:01:18,858 [spirited rhythmic beat] 14 00:01:18,925 --> 00:01:22,665 JOE: Living with all of these ghosts around me, 15 00:01:22,732 --> 00:01:26,472 the things that I have done and the knowledge I have, 16 00:01:26,540 --> 00:01:29,111 it is life altering. 17 00:01:29,178 --> 00:01:30,515 - The white people of this nation 18 00:01:30,581 --> 00:01:32,384 are sick and tired. [cheers and applause] 19 00:01:32,451 --> 00:01:35,190 TERRILL: This was the Klan, seeking to kill someone 20 00:01:35,256 --> 00:01:36,660 because of their skin color. 21 00:01:36,727 --> 00:01:39,599 PERSON: It is not malice when we protect ourselves. 22 00:01:39,666 --> 00:01:43,841 JASON: And it wasn't 1965. It was 2015. 23 00:01:43,907 --> 00:01:45,243 SINGER: ♪♪ The bottom of the river ♪♪ 24 00:01:45,310 --> 00:01:47,448 LATONYA: The KKK wanted to catch my son, 25 00:01:47,515 --> 00:01:50,187 cut him up in pieces on the creek, 26 00:01:50,254 --> 00:01:51,957 and leave him there. 27 00:01:52,024 --> 00:01:53,360 JASON: This is a modern-day lynching 28 00:01:53,427 --> 00:01:55,464 of a Black man in the Deep South. 29 00:01:55,531 --> 00:01:58,236 - The facts of this case are despicable. 30 00:01:58,303 --> 00:01:59,539 JOE: I asked the question, 31 00:01:59,606 --> 00:02:01,242 "Do you want him 6 feet under?" 32 00:02:04,048 --> 00:02:06,720 GEORGE: He was a rising star of the Klan. 33 00:02:06,787 --> 00:02:08,423 He actually became the Grand Nighthawk. 34 00:02:08,489 --> 00:02:11,530 - He came home with a Ku Klux Klan outfit. 35 00:02:11,597 --> 00:02:13,466 And I was like, "Oh my God. What is this?" 36 00:02:17,341 --> 00:02:19,411 SINGER: ♪♪ Meet me at the bottom ♪♪ 37 00:02:19,478 --> 00:02:21,617 GEORGE: Tapes don't lie. 38 00:02:21,684 --> 00:02:23,253 You fear for your safety now? 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,622 JOE: Yes. 40 00:02:27,461 --> 00:02:30,501 JOE: If something were to happen to me, 41 00:02:30,568 --> 00:02:33,373 I need the world to know the truth. 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,079 SINGER: ♪♪ Bottom of the river ♪♪ 43 00:02:36,145 --> 00:02:39,586 [fire crackling] 44 00:02:39,652 --> 00:02:42,759 [insects chirring, birdsong] 45 00:02:42,826 --> 00:02:44,529 [tense music] 46 00:02:44,596 --> 00:02:48,436 TAMEKA: There are many different Floridas. 47 00:02:48,504 --> 00:02:51,375 Not many people appreciate that. 48 00:02:51,442 --> 00:02:52,879 ♪♪ ♪♪ 49 00:02:52,946 --> 00:02:55,518 I would tell people that I was from Florida, 50 00:02:55,584 --> 00:02:58,389 and they immediately thought about beaches 51 00:02:58,456 --> 00:03:01,630 and palm trees, about Disney. 52 00:03:01,697 --> 00:03:06,272 But that's not the Florida that I grew up in. 53 00:03:06,339 --> 00:03:09,411 - North Florida is significantly more rural. 54 00:03:09,478 --> 00:03:12,217 It's more farmland. It's old plantation. 55 00:03:13,688 --> 00:03:16,325 JASON: It's a region that has been left behind 56 00:03:16,392 --> 00:03:19,265 by the modern economy. 57 00:03:19,331 --> 00:03:22,906 There is a lot of agriculture jobs here, 58 00:03:22,973 --> 00:03:27,882 but the other big job in rural communities is prisons. 59 00:03:29,051 --> 00:03:32,224 In Florida, the prison system is the largest state employer, 60 00:03:32,291 --> 00:03:34,428 employing thousands of people. 61 00:03:34,495 --> 00:03:36,298 There are about 150 facilities, 62 00:03:36,365 --> 00:03:38,269 about 80,000 inmates, 63 00:03:38,336 --> 00:03:42,645 and even though Florida has about a 17% Black population, 64 00:03:42,712 --> 00:03:45,784 half of inmates are Black. 65 00:03:45,851 --> 00:03:48,991 I think a place like this that has such a long history 66 00:03:49,058 --> 00:03:51,930 of racial strife should not be surprising to anyone 67 00:03:51,997 --> 00:03:54,401 that the largest employer is also going to have 68 00:03:54,468 --> 00:03:55,738 members of the Klan in it. 69 00:04:01,517 --> 00:04:04,723 The members of the Klan when they join, 70 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:07,094 join something called the Invisible Empire. 71 00:04:07,161 --> 00:04:08,730 [eerie music] 72 00:04:08,797 --> 00:04:11,503 They exist among us in society, 73 00:04:11,570 --> 00:04:13,808 not in their robes and hoods, 74 00:04:13,875 --> 00:04:15,611 but in everyday street clothes 75 00:04:15,678 --> 00:04:18,316 working everyday, regular jobs. 76 00:04:18,383 --> 00:04:24,027 ♪♪ ♪♪ 77 00:04:24,094 --> 00:04:28,269 Obviously, this is not an everyday kind of story. 78 00:04:28,336 --> 00:04:31,275 In 2015, there was a press release 79 00:04:31,342 --> 00:04:33,547 by the state of Florida. 80 00:04:35,283 --> 00:04:39,659 It said that they'd arrested three prison guards, 81 00:04:39,726 --> 00:04:41,362 and it turned out that the guards were members 82 00:04:41,429 --> 00:04:43,801 of the Ku Klux Klan 83 00:04:43,868 --> 00:04:47,575 plotting the murder of a Black man, an inmate, 84 00:04:47,642 --> 00:04:49,478 once he got out of prison. 85 00:04:49,546 --> 00:04:52,785 ♪♪ ♪♪ 86 00:04:52,852 --> 00:04:54,154 I just started looking into it, 87 00:04:54,221 --> 00:04:57,361 and I kind of became obsessed with it. 88 00:04:57,428 --> 00:04:59,398 And I did a story for the AP wire, 89 00:04:59,465 --> 00:05:00,935 which went national, 90 00:05:01,002 --> 00:05:02,772 but there were just a lot of questions, 91 00:05:02,838 --> 00:05:05,812 a lot more questions than answers. 92 00:05:05,878 --> 00:05:08,182 It was only after I wrote the second article 93 00:05:08,249 --> 00:05:11,590 in my series that I received an email, 94 00:05:11,657 --> 00:05:15,965 and my heart stopped. 95 00:05:16,032 --> 00:05:19,906 ♪♪ ♪♪ 96 00:05:19,973 --> 00:05:24,148 There was someone who was in the Ku Klux Klan, 97 00:05:24,215 --> 00:05:27,053 and he came forward to me. 98 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,962 The subject was, "This is Joseph Moore." 99 00:05:31,029 --> 00:05:34,268 "Hello, I do not go by Joseph Moore anymore, 100 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:35,705 "but that was me. 101 00:05:35,772 --> 00:05:37,809 "There is and was much more going on 102 00:05:37,876 --> 00:05:39,513 "in the white supremacist circles 103 00:05:39,580 --> 00:05:41,282 than I can discuss at this time..." 104 00:05:41,348 --> 00:05:45,591 JOE: "But I am not restricted at this point that I know of. 105 00:05:45,658 --> 00:05:47,562 "My family and I are under constant threat 106 00:05:47,629 --> 00:05:49,231 "from white supremacists. 107 00:05:49,298 --> 00:05:51,435 "I want to give you information I have 108 00:05:51,503 --> 00:05:53,139 "in case something happens to me 109 00:05:53,206 --> 00:05:57,047 "and I can no longer speak. 110 00:05:57,114 --> 00:05:58,482 Joe." 111 00:05:59,953 --> 00:06:02,893 [tape rewinding] 112 00:06:02,959 --> 00:06:04,596 [dramatic music] 113 00:06:04,663 --> 00:06:06,967 When you first put that robe on, 114 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:11,175 that persona that you put on can overcome you. 115 00:06:11,242 --> 00:06:13,881 [indistinct speech] 116 00:06:13,948 --> 00:06:15,718 ♪♪ ♪♪ 117 00:06:15,785 --> 00:06:17,087 I was Grand Nighthawk 118 00:06:17,154 --> 00:06:19,158 of the realm of Florida and Georgia. 119 00:06:19,225 --> 00:06:21,730 ♪♪ ♪♪ 120 00:06:27,107 --> 00:06:29,613 JASON: The Grand Nighthawk is basically the Klan's 121 00:06:29,679 --> 00:06:31,549 top security officer. 122 00:06:32,953 --> 00:06:36,091 JOE: Cross burnings are sacrosanct to the KKK 123 00:06:36,158 --> 00:06:40,467 and one of the most closely guarded secrets. 124 00:06:40,535 --> 00:06:42,605 I, as the Grand Nighthawk, 125 00:06:42,672 --> 00:06:44,642 would be the person that lights the fire. 126 00:06:46,780 --> 00:06:49,452 JASON: So there's a big nighttime cross lighting 127 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:51,690 at a farm in rural North Florida. 128 00:06:53,694 --> 00:06:56,567 - It was very remote, very wooded, very rural, 129 00:06:56,634 --> 00:06:58,637 and there would be no traffic. 130 00:06:58,704 --> 00:07:01,744 JASON: All of the Klan members in the region would show up 131 00:07:01,810 --> 00:07:05,216 in a field and light a cross on fire. 132 00:07:05,283 --> 00:07:07,020 JOE: The night of the cross burning, 133 00:07:07,087 --> 00:07:09,491 there were approximately 40 people there. 134 00:07:10,928 --> 00:07:14,869 JASON: They were members of a violent group of the Klan 135 00:07:14,936 --> 00:07:16,640 called the Traditionalist American Knights 136 00:07:16,707 --> 00:07:17,875 of the Ku Klux Klan. 137 00:07:19,445 --> 00:07:23,954 They were comprised of members who had violent felonies, 138 00:07:24,021 --> 00:07:26,226 violent crimes in their past. 139 00:07:26,292 --> 00:07:27,929 [indistinct shouting] 140 00:07:27,996 --> 00:07:30,935 JASON: The Klan tries to present a public face 141 00:07:31,002 --> 00:07:33,273 of being kind of a social club. 142 00:07:33,339 --> 00:07:35,611 But behind the scenes, oftentimes, 143 00:07:35,678 --> 00:07:37,515 they're plotting violence. 144 00:07:37,582 --> 00:07:39,485 ♪♪ ♪♪ 145 00:07:39,553 --> 00:07:44,194 - The Grand Nighthawk has been sort of a hit man for the KKK. 146 00:07:44,261 --> 00:07:47,467 I embraced the fact that the KKK might 147 00:07:47,535 --> 00:07:50,440 call upon me for violence. 148 00:07:50,508 --> 00:07:53,880 GEORGE: The crosses are burning, the moon is full, 149 00:07:53,947 --> 00:07:55,985 and that night changed everything. 150 00:07:56,051 --> 00:07:57,254 - Yes. 151 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,326 [ominous music] 152 00:08:00,393 --> 00:08:03,634 After the ceremony and the cross lighting, 153 00:08:03,701 --> 00:08:06,438 I stepped away from the crowd. 154 00:08:06,506 --> 00:08:08,543 And as I'm looking up at the moon, 155 00:08:08,610 --> 00:08:11,550 I hear something coming my way. 156 00:08:11,617 --> 00:08:13,252 ♪♪ ♪♪ 157 00:08:13,319 --> 00:08:15,991 Charles Newcomb, the Exalted Cyclops, 158 00:08:16,058 --> 00:08:18,864 which is essentially the local leader, 159 00:08:18,930 --> 00:08:20,735 walked up to me and said, 160 00:08:20,801 --> 00:08:23,507 "Hey, Brother Joe, we got a situation 161 00:08:23,574 --> 00:08:26,145 we wanted to, uh, talk to you about." 162 00:08:26,212 --> 00:08:28,416 ♪♪ ♪♪ 163 00:08:28,482 --> 00:08:32,023 "We got Brother Driver and Brother Moran over here. 164 00:08:32,090 --> 00:08:35,163 They want to talk to you about something." 165 00:08:35,230 --> 00:08:40,239 David Moran was a Klansman working his way towards 166 00:08:40,306 --> 00:08:43,146 a position directly under Charles Newcomb, 167 00:08:43,213 --> 00:08:45,818 the Exalted Cyclops. 168 00:08:45,884 --> 00:08:49,325 Thomas Driver was a newer Klan member, 169 00:08:49,391 --> 00:08:52,966 not even first or second level yet. 170 00:08:53,032 --> 00:08:54,503 - The other thing these three had in common 171 00:08:54,569 --> 00:08:55,738 was they had all worked for 172 00:08:55,804 --> 00:08:57,608 the Florida Department of Corrections 173 00:08:57,675 --> 00:09:00,080 as prison guards. 174 00:09:00,147 --> 00:09:03,019 - Thomas driver explained that he got into a fight 175 00:09:03,086 --> 00:09:05,757 with this inmate, and they handed me 176 00:09:05,824 --> 00:09:08,429 a paper with an inmate's picture on it 177 00:09:08,496 --> 00:09:10,868 and the inmate's biographical information. 178 00:09:10,935 --> 00:09:13,540 The inmate was Warren Williams. 179 00:09:13,607 --> 00:09:15,243 ♪♪ ♪♪ 180 00:09:15,310 --> 00:09:17,381 I asked, "What do you want to do?" 181 00:09:17,447 --> 00:09:20,487 Driver and Moran looked at one another. 182 00:09:20,554 --> 00:09:22,658 I asked the question, 183 00:09:22,725 --> 00:09:24,730 "Do you want somebody to talk to him?" 184 00:09:24,796 --> 00:09:28,202 They looked at each other, said no. 185 00:09:28,269 --> 00:09:31,408 I said, "Do you want someone to beat him up?" 186 00:09:31,475 --> 00:09:34,314 They looked at each other and said no. 187 00:09:34,381 --> 00:09:35,952 Then I asked the question, 188 00:09:36,019 --> 00:09:37,755 "Do you want him 6 feet under?" 189 00:09:37,822 --> 00:09:40,360 And they said yes. 190 00:09:40,427 --> 00:09:44,769 ♪♪ ♪♪ 191 00:09:44,836 --> 00:09:47,841 I said "OK, you need to put that paper away, 192 00:09:47,908 --> 00:09:50,413 "and then we need to meet another time 193 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,522 "to talk about this outside of this environment. 194 00:09:54,589 --> 00:09:58,296 Brothers, uh, y'all enjoy the rest of the evening." 195 00:09:58,363 --> 00:10:01,936 [eerie music] 196 00:10:02,003 --> 00:10:04,008 GEORGE: So three men have talked to you 197 00:10:04,074 --> 00:10:05,678 about a potential murder, but they didn't know 198 00:10:05,744 --> 00:10:07,749 something very important. 199 00:10:07,815 --> 00:10:10,955 - They don't know that I was 200 00:10:11,022 --> 00:10:14,695 undercover for the FBI. 201 00:10:17,902 --> 00:10:20,808 [suspenseful music] 202 00:10:20,875 --> 00:10:26,185 ♪♪ ♪♪ 203 00:10:26,252 --> 00:10:29,959 - So this is the Reception and Medical Center 204 00:10:30,026 --> 00:10:32,965 in North Florida, Lake Butler. 205 00:10:33,032 --> 00:10:35,437 And it houses thousands of prisoners, 206 00:10:35,504 --> 00:10:38,343 as well as being the hospital for the prison system 207 00:10:38,409 --> 00:10:40,046 in this region. 208 00:10:40,113 --> 00:10:43,486 Driver and Moran worked here during the murder plot. 209 00:10:43,554 --> 00:10:47,093 Newcomb was a former employee, 210 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,665 and all three were members of the Klan. 211 00:10:49,732 --> 00:10:53,072 ANTWAN: Lake Butler Reception and Medical Center 212 00:10:53,139 --> 00:10:56,847 has to be the worst prison-- 213 00:10:56,913 --> 00:10:58,349 it is the worst prison in Florida. 214 00:10:59,986 --> 00:11:03,159 Lake Butler is known to be so bad that you can leave, 215 00:11:03,225 --> 00:11:05,229 go to another prison, and you can tell the officer, 216 00:11:05,296 --> 00:11:06,733 "Man, I'm glad I ain't at Lake Butler." 217 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,136 Well, you know what they tell you? 218 00:11:08,202 --> 00:11:09,839 Rednecks don't play down there. Kill your ass, huh? 219 00:11:09,906 --> 00:11:12,110 [blues music] 220 00:11:12,177 --> 00:11:16,385 When I was there, I knew Sergeant David Moran. 221 00:11:16,452 --> 00:11:17,655 ♪♪ ♪♪ 222 00:11:17,722 --> 00:11:19,526 We called him Chief. 223 00:11:19,593 --> 00:11:21,563 Back then, he had a little size on him, 224 00:11:21,629 --> 00:11:26,038 barrel-chest dude, and inmates feared and respected him. 225 00:11:26,104 --> 00:11:27,808 They knew--they knew Chief-- 226 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:31,482 they were like, "You know, man, Chief'll kill you." 227 00:11:31,550 --> 00:11:34,254 JASON: In the eight years that I've covered this region, 228 00:11:34,321 --> 00:11:36,492 there have been a number of stories 229 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:38,162 that had involved Klansmen 230 00:11:38,229 --> 00:11:41,068 being unmasked law enforcement. 231 00:11:41,135 --> 00:11:42,739 ANTWAN: You not gonna surprise no Black person 232 00:11:42,805 --> 00:11:45,042 by telling them the Klan is working in prison, 233 00:11:45,109 --> 00:11:47,414 not Southern Black people. 234 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,890 - And with the resurgence of white supremacist groups... 235 00:11:51,957 --> 00:11:53,459 [people chanting and screaming indistinctly] 236 00:11:53,527 --> 00:11:57,166 JASON: You have seen an emboldened Klan. 237 00:11:58,703 --> 00:12:01,341 CHRIS: We had been receiving a series of directives 238 00:12:01,408 --> 00:12:05,183 going back to 2006 concerning the threat 239 00:12:05,250 --> 00:12:08,524 from domestic terrorism extremism groups. 240 00:12:08,590 --> 00:12:10,961 GREG: It's always best, in any criminal investigation, 241 00:12:11,028 --> 00:12:12,230 to have somebody on the inside 242 00:12:12,297 --> 00:12:14,100 because you're not only having eyes and ears 243 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:16,371 where yours can't be, but in many cases, 244 00:12:16,438 --> 00:12:18,677 you're getting real-time feedback. 245 00:12:18,743 --> 00:12:22,250 - Hence, the approach to Joe Moore. 246 00:12:22,718 --> 00:12:25,456 [indistinct chatter] 247 00:12:27,361 --> 00:12:28,864 - Good to see you. - Nice to meet you. 248 00:12:28,931 --> 00:12:31,401 - Nice to meet you. Have a seat. 249 00:12:31,468 --> 00:12:33,774 So you don't go by the name Joe Moore anymore? 250 00:12:33,841 --> 00:12:36,045 - No, we've gotten identity changes. 251 00:12:36,111 --> 00:12:37,815 - Can I call you Joe? - Yeah, that's fine. 252 00:12:37,882 --> 00:12:39,318 That's what most people call me anyway. 253 00:12:39,384 --> 00:12:41,823 - Let's start out at-- at the beginning. 254 00:12:41,890 --> 00:12:44,829 [bright music] 255 00:12:44,896 --> 00:12:49,204 ♪♪ ♪♪ 256 00:12:49,271 --> 00:12:53,279 JOE: I was born in 1971 in Jacksonville, Florida. 257 00:12:53,346 --> 00:12:57,320 ♪♪ ♪♪ 258 00:12:57,387 --> 00:13:02,230 I guess I always wanted to be in law enforcement. 259 00:13:02,297 --> 00:13:04,401 [chuckles] 260 00:13:04,467 --> 00:13:10,246 I was close to my sister, and I was her protector. 261 00:13:10,313 --> 00:13:15,724 In high school, I ran track, played football. 262 00:13:15,791 --> 00:13:21,402 After college, I enlisted in the Army as a private. 263 00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:23,339 - You really did well at the beginning. 264 00:13:23,406 --> 00:13:24,943 - I was a distinguished honor graduate 265 00:13:25,009 --> 00:13:26,245 in my basic training class, 266 00:13:26,312 --> 00:13:28,382 making rank pretty quick, 267 00:13:28,449 --> 00:13:30,788 and was selected to become a sniper. 268 00:13:30,854 --> 00:13:35,130 Eventually became the sniper section leader. 269 00:13:35,196 --> 00:13:38,570 I began learning breathing techniques, 270 00:13:38,636 --> 00:13:40,407 maintaining your composure, 271 00:13:40,473 --> 00:13:43,212 being able to get control of what would 272 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:46,151 otherwise cause people to panic. 273 00:13:46,218 --> 00:13:49,526 For me, I was serving my country. 274 00:13:49,592 --> 00:13:53,566 I was fulfilling who I was. 275 00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:55,303 [soft dramatic music] 276 00:13:55,370 --> 00:13:57,709 - But after that, you ran into some challenges. 277 00:13:57,775 --> 00:14:00,279 - Yes. 278 00:14:00,346 --> 00:14:03,018 I received an honorable discharge, 279 00:14:03,085 --> 00:14:08,162 and I was already receiving treatment 280 00:14:08,229 --> 00:14:10,801 when I left the Army, for depression, 281 00:14:10,868 --> 00:14:13,940 and within a year of being discharged, 282 00:14:14,007 --> 00:14:16,513 I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. 283 00:14:16,579 --> 00:14:19,418 GEORGE: How do you manage it? JOE: You see multiple doctors. 284 00:14:19,484 --> 00:14:23,292 And of course, you get onto a medication protocol. 285 00:14:23,358 --> 00:14:26,164 And when I'm feeling manic, 286 00:14:26,231 --> 00:14:29,138 I imagine I'm wearing a heavy suit. 287 00:14:29,204 --> 00:14:30,908 And then when I'm depressed, 288 00:14:30,974 --> 00:14:33,613 I imagine zipping out of that heavy suit, 289 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,520 as well as constantly practicing 290 00:14:36,586 --> 00:14:40,928 my breathing techniques that I've learned as a sniper. 291 00:14:40,995 --> 00:14:47,140 ♪♪ ♪♪ 292 00:14:52,851 --> 00:14:54,321 LATONYA: When you have kids, 293 00:14:54,387 --> 00:14:56,659 you want the best for 'em in all situations. 294 00:14:56,726 --> 00:14:58,395 [laughs] 295 00:14:58,462 --> 00:15:02,337 But he just didn't go the route 296 00:15:02,404 --> 00:15:05,511 that I would have had him go. 297 00:15:05,578 --> 00:15:09,084 I'm Latonya Crowley. I'm Warren William's mother. 298 00:15:09,151 --> 00:15:11,656 ♪♪ ♪♪ 299 00:15:11,723 --> 00:15:14,562 JASON: Warren Williams is a young man who grew up 300 00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:17,467 in the Central North Florida town of Palatka, 301 00:15:17,535 --> 00:15:20,206 which is on the St. John's River. 302 00:15:20,273 --> 00:15:24,281 He lived with his mother and three younger sisters, 303 00:15:24,348 --> 00:15:27,988 protective older brother. 304 00:15:28,055 --> 00:15:29,625 LATONYA: He had a great spirit, 305 00:15:29,692 --> 00:15:31,461 and he liked outdoors, 306 00:15:31,529 --> 00:15:34,669 always, you know, hands on with dirt, 307 00:15:34,735 --> 00:15:36,138 flowers, stuff like that. 308 00:15:36,205 --> 00:15:38,744 He get it from his granddaddy. 309 00:15:38,810 --> 00:15:41,816 JASON: He spends time quietly fishing 310 00:15:41,883 --> 00:15:43,954 in St. John's River. 311 00:15:44,020 --> 00:15:46,559 - He's not a people person. 312 00:15:46,626 --> 00:15:49,230 He never have been, never have. 313 00:15:52,337 --> 00:15:54,975 - Warren suffered from some pretty severe 314 00:15:55,042 --> 00:15:58,717 mental illness diagnoses throughout his life. 315 00:15:58,784 --> 00:16:02,491 LATONYA: Warren has some mental issues, 316 00:16:02,558 --> 00:16:06,232 and they kind of arose when he was in high school. 317 00:16:06,298 --> 00:16:10,139 And that's when I start noticing the little changes. 318 00:16:10,206 --> 00:16:12,210 He didn't see it, but I seen it, 319 00:16:12,277 --> 00:16:14,982 you know, with bipolar. 320 00:16:15,049 --> 00:16:16,686 They put him on medication. 321 00:16:16,753 --> 00:16:18,923 He'll take it for a while, and then he'll stop 322 00:16:18,990 --> 00:16:21,462 because he feel like he's not himself. 323 00:16:21,530 --> 00:16:24,234 - Sometimes, he would have one of these episodes, 324 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:26,204 and his mother or other people he was with 325 00:16:26,271 --> 00:16:27,775 would, you know, have to call the police 326 00:16:27,842 --> 00:16:30,781 because they couldn't deal with him. 327 00:16:30,848 --> 00:16:32,884 LATONYA: Because he's not taking his medicine, 328 00:16:32,951 --> 00:16:37,594 he had taken a baseball bat to my car. 329 00:16:37,661 --> 00:16:40,266 Because I know he wasn't in his right mind, 330 00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:42,270 I had to call the police. 331 00:16:42,337 --> 00:16:44,408 [soft dramatic music] 332 00:16:44,474 --> 00:16:48,850 You know, he needed help. He just needed help. 333 00:16:48,917 --> 00:16:51,789 [faint police sirens blaring] 334 00:16:51,856 --> 00:16:55,998 ♪♪ ♪♪ 335 00:16:56,065 --> 00:16:57,500 The police came to the house. 336 00:16:57,568 --> 00:17:02,076 And Warren was, you know, sitting on the porch. 337 00:17:02,143 --> 00:17:05,316 You know, and I told them, 338 00:17:05,383 --> 00:17:10,961 "Don't try to attack him." 339 00:17:11,027 --> 00:17:13,933 JASON: The police came when he was having a mental breakdown, 340 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,071 and he became violent. 341 00:17:16,138 --> 00:17:18,509 Warren hit one of the police officers, 342 00:17:18,576 --> 00:17:23,586 which would send him in to that prison. 343 00:17:27,260 --> 00:17:30,399 [gun shots] 344 00:17:38,516 --> 00:17:41,890 JOE: There are bad things that happen daily, 345 00:17:41,957 --> 00:17:46,197 and you certainly can't build fences around life. 346 00:17:48,770 --> 00:17:53,111 My identity and how I was formed as a person 347 00:17:53,178 --> 00:17:57,020 were the result of some criminal things 348 00:17:57,087 --> 00:18:00,493 that were done to me as a child. 349 00:18:00,561 --> 00:18:04,334 When I was eight years old, I was victimized by two men 350 00:18:04,401 --> 00:18:07,941 over a period of approximately three months. 351 00:18:08,008 --> 00:18:09,211 JASON: First time I met Joe, 352 00:18:09,277 --> 00:18:10,948 he brought up his childhood abuse. 353 00:18:11,014 --> 00:18:14,321 It's clearly something that is not only traumatizing, 354 00:18:14,387 --> 00:18:20,299 but that he's turned into a major life-motivating force. 355 00:18:20,366 --> 00:18:23,072 JOE: Instead of deciding to become a victim 356 00:18:23,139 --> 00:18:25,510 of those tragedies, 357 00:18:25,577 --> 00:18:28,416 I decided to be the person that would speak out 358 00:18:28,483 --> 00:18:31,923 against things that were wrong. 359 00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:37,902 ♪♪ ♪♪ 360 00:18:37,969 --> 00:18:43,412 I was giving classes at a local shooting range 361 00:18:43,478 --> 00:18:45,784 to active duty military personnel, 362 00:18:45,851 --> 00:18:46,819 police personnel. 363 00:18:46,886 --> 00:18:48,022 [indistinct chatter] 364 00:18:48,089 --> 00:18:50,994 While I was conducting a class, I guess, 365 00:18:51,061 --> 00:18:54,969 a member of the Joint Terrorism Task Force noticed me, 366 00:18:55,035 --> 00:18:59,077 and I received a phone call after that. 367 00:18:59,143 --> 00:19:00,847 - He--he fit the bill. 368 00:19:00,914 --> 00:19:03,653 And by that, I mean he had certain qualifications. 369 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,022 - Like what? 370 00:19:05,089 --> 00:19:07,561 CHRIS: Well, he had a military background. 371 00:19:07,628 --> 00:19:09,599 Physically, he sort of fit the bill. 372 00:19:09,666 --> 00:19:13,405 I mean, he's a white male. He was from--from that area. 373 00:19:13,472 --> 00:19:17,213 He could walk the walk. 374 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,754 JOE: When I was growing up, I lived in a very swampy, 375 00:19:20,821 --> 00:19:25,530 rural part of town, and where I lived at, 376 00:19:25,597 --> 00:19:27,500 those people flew Confederate flags, 377 00:19:27,568 --> 00:19:32,076 those people used the N-word. 378 00:19:32,143 --> 00:19:34,181 - The FBI asked you to go undercover. 379 00:19:34,247 --> 00:19:36,017 What was your mission? 380 00:19:36,084 --> 00:19:39,157 JOE: My mission was go inside the KKK 381 00:19:39,224 --> 00:19:41,562 to identify people that are involved 382 00:19:41,629 --> 00:19:46,906 and to forewarn the FBI of any illegal activities. 383 00:19:48,777 --> 00:19:51,114 [gun shots] 384 00:19:51,181 --> 00:19:54,054 - Was there a threat in northern Florida at the time? 385 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,323 - Yes, clearly. 386 00:19:55,390 --> 00:19:57,027 [eerie music] 387 00:19:57,093 --> 00:19:58,361 GEORGE: KKK? 388 00:19:58,428 --> 00:20:00,934 CHRIS: The KKK has-- has the history, 389 00:20:01,001 --> 00:20:03,907 the image, so to speak. - We do not... 390 00:20:03,974 --> 00:20:06,546 CHRIS: They're capable and dangerous. 391 00:20:06,612 --> 00:20:09,885 GREG: Florida has been a bastion of the Klan. 392 00:20:09,952 --> 00:20:11,989 I usually call the KKK 393 00:20:12,056 --> 00:20:13,593 the granddaddy of white supremacy movements 394 00:20:13,659 --> 00:20:16,532 because you can see the roots if you study the history. 395 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:19,404 TAMEKA: The Klan was founded after the end 396 00:20:19,471 --> 00:20:21,576 of the United States Civil War 397 00:20:21,642 --> 00:20:27,086 by whites who were determined to maintain their supremacy. 398 00:20:27,153 --> 00:20:29,758 In 1921, it was estimated 399 00:20:29,825 --> 00:20:32,898 that there were approximately 100,000 Klan members 400 00:20:32,964 --> 00:20:34,502 across the United States. 401 00:20:34,568 --> 00:20:36,772 A full one-third of them were believed 402 00:20:36,839 --> 00:20:38,710 to have been in the state of Florida. 403 00:20:38,777 --> 00:20:40,881 African Americans living in the state of Florida 404 00:20:40,948 --> 00:20:42,684 have the highest likelihood of being lynched 405 00:20:42,751 --> 00:20:46,324 of any people in the United States. 406 00:20:46,391 --> 00:20:47,894 During the Civil Rights Movement, 407 00:20:47,961 --> 00:20:50,800 you're going to see a lot of these Klan members 408 00:20:50,867 --> 00:20:56,244 be active in confrontations of civil rights demonstrators. 409 00:20:56,311 --> 00:20:57,747 You see that very vividly 410 00:20:57,814 --> 00:21:01,454 in Saint Augustine, Florida, in 1964. 411 00:21:01,522 --> 00:21:04,761 JASON: Local leaders, officials, sheriffs 412 00:21:04,828 --> 00:21:06,766 were openly members of the Ku Klux Klan 413 00:21:06,832 --> 00:21:10,205 who ran these towns 100 or less years ago. 414 00:21:10,272 --> 00:21:14,313 So it's still a very active part of the culture 415 00:21:14,380 --> 00:21:16,785 and history of this region. 416 00:21:18,289 --> 00:21:19,892 GEORGE: And to do your job well, 417 00:21:19,959 --> 00:21:22,129 you have to make them believe you're one of them. 418 00:21:22,196 --> 00:21:25,136 How do you even start though? 419 00:21:25,203 --> 00:21:29,477 - So this wasn't my first time undercover for the FBI. 420 00:21:29,544 --> 00:21:32,584 Back in 2007, I spent about four years 421 00:21:32,651 --> 00:21:33,986 undercover for the FBI 422 00:21:34,053 --> 00:21:37,359 in a different Klan organization. 423 00:21:37,426 --> 00:21:41,669 - Joe walks into the FBI office in Gainesville, Florida 424 00:21:41,735 --> 00:21:43,940 to report what he thought was a crooked cop. 425 00:21:44,006 --> 00:21:47,046 The FBI agent saw Joe's military background, 426 00:21:47,113 --> 00:21:49,184 saw something in him and thought, 427 00:21:49,251 --> 00:21:52,056 "Here's someone we could recruit to help us out." 428 00:21:52,123 --> 00:21:55,496 - Initially, I wasn't surprised that they contacted me, 429 00:21:55,564 --> 00:21:59,872 but I was-- I was honored. 430 00:22:01,942 --> 00:22:03,746 I realized that I had a second chance 431 00:22:03,813 --> 00:22:06,285 to serve my country again. 432 00:22:06,351 --> 00:22:08,657 I had the opportunity to help someone else, 433 00:22:08,723 --> 00:22:11,528 just as I wished somebody was there to help me 434 00:22:11,595 --> 00:22:14,500 when tragedy happened to me as a child. 435 00:22:17,107 --> 00:22:19,043 GEORGE: But something went wrong there. 436 00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:21,482 They believed your cover had been blown? 437 00:22:21,549 --> 00:22:26,458 - The problem was my family issues. 438 00:22:26,525 --> 00:22:29,231 - Joe was under a lot of pressure 439 00:22:29,297 --> 00:22:31,869 and stress from his wife. 440 00:22:31,936 --> 00:22:33,338 JASON: There was some secret. 441 00:22:33,405 --> 00:22:35,243 Sooner or later, he came clean, 442 00:22:35,309 --> 00:22:38,917 and when the FBI discovered that he told his wife, 443 00:22:38,983 --> 00:22:40,987 they severed the relationship immediately. 444 00:22:41,054 --> 00:22:42,725 - So he broke the rules? 445 00:22:42,792 --> 00:22:44,762 CHRIS: He broke a rule, he broke a rule, 446 00:22:44,828 --> 00:22:47,266 and a decision was made to sever ties. 447 00:22:47,333 --> 00:22:49,437 GEORGE: So if a guy breaks the rules once, 448 00:22:49,505 --> 00:22:50,941 why bring him back? 449 00:22:51,007 --> 00:22:52,343 CHRIS: Because it was, in a sense, 450 00:22:52,410 --> 00:22:53,779 almost understandable. 451 00:22:53,846 --> 00:22:55,349 JASON: This time, they were able 452 00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:57,453 to strike up a new deal 453 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,658 where his wife would know from the beginning. 454 00:23:01,094 --> 00:23:03,833 CHRIS: You also consider the need to bring somebody in 455 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:06,538 who already has that experience. 456 00:23:06,605 --> 00:23:10,079 The decision to reopen him, so to speak, 457 00:23:10,145 --> 00:23:12,116 was really an easy decision. 458 00:23:12,183 --> 00:23:13,820 [people shouting and chanting indistinctly] 459 00:23:13,887 --> 00:23:17,627 JASON: In 2013, there were more than 100 Klan groups 460 00:23:17,694 --> 00:23:19,932 operating in the United States. 461 00:23:19,999 --> 00:23:22,737 CHRIS: Really, the first year or so was, 462 00:23:22,804 --> 00:23:25,375 be on the lookout, gather intelligence, 463 00:23:25,442 --> 00:23:27,681 evaluate the threat. 464 00:23:27,748 --> 00:23:31,555 - I was learning how to be a part of that organization 465 00:23:31,622 --> 00:23:34,360 and getting close to them. 466 00:23:34,427 --> 00:23:36,030 This is the application 467 00:23:36,097 --> 00:23:39,237 to the Traditionalist American Knights of the KKK. 468 00:23:39,304 --> 00:23:41,008 And it simply asks, 469 00:23:41,074 --> 00:23:44,715 "Do you support white supremacism?" 470 00:23:44,782 --> 00:23:48,322 They want people that have skills. 471 00:23:48,388 --> 00:23:51,261 They want people from the military. 472 00:23:51,328 --> 00:23:53,867 The KKK has a formal structure 473 00:23:53,933 --> 00:23:56,739 similar to a military unit. 474 00:23:56,806 --> 00:23:59,812 The KKK has what is essentially 475 00:23:59,879 --> 00:24:03,385 a commander-in-chief in the Imperial Wizard. 476 00:24:03,452 --> 00:24:08,061 The governors of the regions would be the Grand Dragons, 477 00:24:08,128 --> 00:24:12,904 and the Grand Nighthawk would be that state 478 00:24:12,971 --> 00:24:16,679 or that region's leader of the National Guard. 479 00:24:16,746 --> 00:24:19,919 They use acronyms in order to ensure 480 00:24:19,985 --> 00:24:23,491 that impostors were not infiltrating 481 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:25,764 the meeting or the Klan. 482 00:24:25,831 --> 00:24:29,839 They would use terms like AYAK, are you a Klansman? 483 00:24:29,905 --> 00:24:31,876 And the proper response, if you are a Klansman, 484 00:24:31,943 --> 00:24:35,617 is AKIA, A-K-I-A, a Klansman, I am. 485 00:24:35,683 --> 00:24:37,888 If you don't respond with AKIA, 486 00:24:37,955 --> 00:24:39,725 they know you're not a Klansman. 487 00:24:39,792 --> 00:24:41,862 - They also have a blood oath. 488 00:24:41,929 --> 00:24:44,801 - Yes, they do. When you sign the blood oath, 489 00:24:44,868 --> 00:24:47,908 they tell you that if you violate 490 00:24:47,975 --> 00:24:52,016 or disclose secrets of the KKK, you'll pay with your blood. 491 00:24:52,083 --> 00:24:55,055 [tense music] 492 00:24:55,122 --> 00:24:57,426 ♪♪ ♪♪ 493 00:24:57,493 --> 00:25:01,067 GEORGE: What does it mean to be operational for the FBI? 494 00:25:01,134 --> 00:25:03,906 JOE: I was constantly in contact with the Klan, 495 00:25:03,973 --> 00:25:07,948 nearly on an hourly basis, 496 00:25:08,014 --> 00:25:11,054 transferring information, attending meetings. 497 00:25:13,225 --> 00:25:15,696 I perhaps, would be having dinner or lunch 498 00:25:15,763 --> 00:25:18,468 with my family, or at church or something, 499 00:25:18,536 --> 00:25:20,072 and we'd get a phone call, 500 00:25:20,139 --> 00:25:22,544 and I knew it was a Klan member. 501 00:25:22,611 --> 00:25:25,282 - The KKK, who did they think you were? 502 00:25:25,349 --> 00:25:28,489 - Someone far more qualified than myself. 503 00:25:28,556 --> 00:25:30,694 GEORGE: A warrior? JOE: Yes. 504 00:25:30,761 --> 00:25:32,631 [exhales deeply] 505 00:25:32,698 --> 00:25:36,238 My Zodiac sign is Gemini. 506 00:25:36,304 --> 00:25:37,941 Being the twins, 507 00:25:38,008 --> 00:25:40,847 there were two aspects of myself, 508 00:25:40,914 --> 00:25:46,057 one undercover, and one who I really was. 509 00:25:46,124 --> 00:25:48,495 - They were really interested in his military background 510 00:25:48,562 --> 00:25:50,633 and training as a sniper. 511 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:55,309 He took on a character that inflated his credentials 512 00:25:55,376 --> 00:25:57,915 even further than what they already were. 513 00:25:57,981 --> 00:26:00,485 CHRIS: He took military experience 514 00:26:00,553 --> 00:26:04,895 and made it sound almost sexy to them. 515 00:26:04,962 --> 00:26:07,767 So he talked about being a sniper, 516 00:26:07,834 --> 00:26:11,074 alluding to killing people in Delta Force, 517 00:26:11,141 --> 00:26:14,080 which they clearly were attracted to. 518 00:26:14,147 --> 00:26:16,752 - I was able to rise through the ranks 519 00:26:16,819 --> 00:26:20,192 to the point that they made me a Nighthawk and, eventually, 520 00:26:20,259 --> 00:26:22,831 the Grand Nighthawk. 521 00:26:22,897 --> 00:26:28,543 - It's clear from his ascent that he impressed them. 522 00:26:28,609 --> 00:26:30,647 They trusted him. 523 00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:32,951 He displayed admirable patience 524 00:26:33,018 --> 00:26:34,755 throughout that process, 525 00:26:34,821 --> 00:26:39,463 which easier said than done, 526 00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:41,367 particularly in a situation like that 527 00:26:41,434 --> 00:26:44,875 that's potentially very dangerous. 528 00:26:44,942 --> 00:26:47,647 [Klansmen chanting] 529 00:26:52,456 --> 00:26:55,495 - So in his first year, Joe was leaking intelligence 530 00:26:55,563 --> 00:26:56,933 to the FBI here and there, 531 00:26:56,999 --> 00:26:59,971 but there were no major plans he's disrupting. 532 00:27:00,038 --> 00:27:02,777 But that would all change. 533 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:08,722 It was the height of 534 00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:11,529 North Florida deep South summer, 535 00:27:11,596 --> 00:27:14,868 which anybody knows is one of the most humid, 536 00:27:14,935 --> 00:27:17,206 sticky, hot places. 537 00:27:17,273 --> 00:27:19,912 Many of the rooms inside the RMC 538 00:27:19,979 --> 00:27:21,248 are not air conditioned. 539 00:27:21,314 --> 00:27:23,653 It makes conditions even more tense 540 00:27:23,719 --> 00:27:25,924 between the inmates and the guards. 541 00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:28,930 Thomas Driver worked in the dorm area 542 00:27:28,997 --> 00:27:31,869 where Warren Williams was an inmate. 543 00:27:31,936 --> 00:27:34,508 They crossed paths at numerous times. 544 00:27:34,574 --> 00:27:38,314 But one day, Thomas Driver had brought Warren 545 00:27:38,381 --> 00:27:42,791 into a room inside the prison to reprimand Warren 546 00:27:42,858 --> 00:27:46,097 for losing his ID badge. 547 00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:49,003 Driver just smoking a cigarette, 548 00:27:49,070 --> 00:27:52,176 started blowing smoke at Warren's face. 549 00:27:52,243 --> 00:27:54,582 LATONYA: And he said he asked him to stop, 550 00:27:54,648 --> 00:27:55,650 and he wouldn't. 551 00:27:55,717 --> 00:27:57,253 You know, he kept saying, you know, 552 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,190 "Get out my face with the cigarette smoke." 553 00:27:59,257 --> 00:28:03,298 You know, "Get out of my face. Get out my face." 554 00:28:03,365 --> 00:28:06,437 ANTWAN: They would do things, outrageous things, 555 00:28:06,505 --> 00:28:07,874 that push you in a corner, 556 00:28:07,941 --> 00:28:10,913 just things that just not necessary. 557 00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:12,383 JASON: Warren asked him to stop. 558 00:28:12,450 --> 00:28:14,086 Driver refused to stop, 559 00:28:14,153 --> 00:28:16,592 and it was at that point that Warren jumped on him, 560 00:28:16,658 --> 00:28:18,930 and the fight started. 561 00:28:18,997 --> 00:28:21,301 LATONYA: Warren and Driver was fighting, 562 00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:23,037 wrestling, you know, on the floor or whatever, 563 00:28:23,104 --> 00:28:27,379 and the other COs came in. They beating him. 564 00:28:27,446 --> 00:28:33,058 ♪♪ ♪♪ 565 00:28:33,125 --> 00:28:36,999 They beaten him so bad, they took him to the hospital. 566 00:28:39,572 --> 00:28:42,109 JASON: Williams had gotten the better of Driver 567 00:28:42,176 --> 00:28:44,213 in the fight, and during the fight, 568 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,321 had also bit Driver and broken the skin, 569 00:28:48,388 --> 00:28:50,894 and Driver had required a series of tests 570 00:28:50,961 --> 00:28:52,864 to make sure that he didn't have some 571 00:28:52,931 --> 00:28:57,072 serious communicable diseases, hep C or HIV, 572 00:28:57,139 --> 00:29:00,914 and because of the worry over whether or not 573 00:29:00,980 --> 00:29:02,817 he'd picked up one of these diseases, 574 00:29:02,884 --> 00:29:05,488 he said it had caused his family 575 00:29:05,556 --> 00:29:07,994 immeasurable stress and that he just 576 00:29:08,061 --> 00:29:10,933 wanted this guy assassinated. 577 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,271 ♪♪ ♪♪ 578 00:29:13,337 --> 00:29:15,342 So Warren was released from prison 579 00:29:15,408 --> 00:29:18,315 right around Christmas time and returned back 580 00:29:18,382 --> 00:29:20,753 to his mother's small home in Palatka. 581 00:29:20,820 --> 00:29:22,456 [soft dramatic music] 582 00:29:22,524 --> 00:29:27,066 He began working a landscaping job, 583 00:29:27,133 --> 00:29:29,838 trying to stay out of trouble. 584 00:29:29,905 --> 00:29:31,241 He was on probation, 585 00:29:31,308 --> 00:29:34,447 so he's going to regular probation meetings, 586 00:29:34,515 --> 00:29:36,217 fishing when he can, 587 00:29:36,284 --> 00:29:40,259 just trying to get his life back to a peaceful state, 588 00:29:40,325 --> 00:29:43,298 but at the same time, the Ku Klux Klan 589 00:29:43,365 --> 00:29:47,105 is plotting to snatch him up and murder him. 590 00:29:48,843 --> 00:29:50,412 JOE: I ask the question, 591 00:29:50,479 --> 00:29:52,383 "Do you want him 6 feet under?" 592 00:29:52,449 --> 00:29:54,788 And they said yes. 593 00:29:54,855 --> 00:29:56,926 I said, "OK, brothers, 594 00:29:56,993 --> 00:29:58,997 y'all enjoy the rest of the evening." 595 00:29:59,063 --> 00:30:01,301 Get in my vehicle, 596 00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:03,806 just running the night over in my head 597 00:30:03,873 --> 00:30:05,876 over and over and over. 598 00:30:05,943 --> 00:30:08,014 When I got safely down the road, 599 00:30:08,081 --> 00:30:10,887 I immediately called the FBI to tell them 600 00:30:10,953 --> 00:30:13,559 that these guys were prepared to murder. 601 00:30:22,844 --> 00:30:25,415 CHRIS: So December 6... 602 00:30:25,482 --> 00:30:28,756 everything about that meeting... 603 00:30:28,823 --> 00:30:31,328 was chilling. 604 00:30:31,394 --> 00:30:34,901 It's not illegal to engage in hateful speech. 605 00:30:34,968 --> 00:30:38,308 What is illegal is to go from hateful speech 606 00:30:38,375 --> 00:30:42,817 into the planning of a criminal act, 607 00:30:42,884 --> 00:30:44,688 a violent act. 608 00:30:44,755 --> 00:30:47,861 - And once he hears some talk about murder, 609 00:30:47,927 --> 00:30:50,265 that's when you need him to wear a wire? 610 00:30:50,331 --> 00:30:51,500 - Yes. 611 00:30:58,783 --> 00:31:01,989 They've had this conversation in December. 612 00:31:02,056 --> 00:31:05,395 Now he has to go back, wearing a wire this time, 613 00:31:05,462 --> 00:31:09,436 and recreate important parts of that conversation. 614 00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:20,593 PAUL: It's invaluable to have those recordings 615 00:31:20,660 --> 00:31:24,668 to validate and corroborate exactly what the informant 616 00:31:24,734 --> 00:31:27,472 is telling us so that we know precisely the words used. 617 00:31:42,737 --> 00:31:44,841 PAUL: There are many hours and many meetings. 618 00:31:44,908 --> 00:31:48,582 Countless hours of him spending time talking with them 619 00:31:48,649 --> 00:31:50,886 so we could try to keep a good pulse 620 00:31:50,953 --> 00:31:52,623 of what were they thinking. 621 00:32:06,852 --> 00:32:08,756 CHRIS: If you've ever had a cotton ball 622 00:32:08,822 --> 00:32:12,095 and you try to pull it apart, if you pull too hard, 623 00:32:12,162 --> 00:32:13,533 it won't come apart. 624 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,037 If you pull easily, it comes apart. 625 00:32:16,104 --> 00:32:20,613 That's what Joe Moore was able to do with this organization. 626 00:32:29,698 --> 00:32:31,267 CHRIS: He never pushed too hard. 627 00:32:31,334 --> 00:32:35,676 He would inquire, listen, go along with things. 628 00:32:45,229 --> 00:32:47,099 - It was obvious that they did harbor 629 00:32:47,165 --> 00:32:48,735 racial animosity toward the victim. 630 00:32:55,248 --> 00:32:56,484 - And the other thing that was apparent to me 631 00:32:56,552 --> 00:33:00,458 was there was absolute intent to see this carried out. 632 00:33:16,525 --> 00:33:18,361 PAUL: He's obviously interacting with 633 00:33:18,428 --> 00:33:20,566 and around people that have expressed 634 00:33:20,633 --> 00:33:22,235 a clear intent to commit murder. 635 00:33:22,302 --> 00:33:24,006 If it came out that Joe was cooperating 636 00:33:24,073 --> 00:33:26,511 and working with the FBI, we feared his-- 637 00:33:26,578 --> 00:33:30,385 his life could very well be in danger. 638 00:33:30,452 --> 00:33:33,559 - Joe was in danger. He also had a wife and kids. 639 00:33:33,625 --> 00:33:35,162 - He did. 640 00:33:35,228 --> 00:33:37,499 With sources, it's a constant challenge 641 00:33:37,567 --> 00:33:40,606 and a struggle, particularly if they have family, 642 00:33:40,673 --> 00:33:43,044 if they're trying to lead a normal life. 643 00:33:43,110 --> 00:33:47,520 To have that going on on the side is--it's tough. 644 00:33:48,455 --> 00:33:50,325 - Make sure they're all the way over here, love. 645 00:33:50,392 --> 00:33:51,695 [indistinct chatter] 646 00:33:51,762 --> 00:33:53,097 GEORGE: When you're in it, how do you go 647 00:33:53,164 --> 00:33:55,068 from a cross burning at night to having breakfast 648 00:33:55,135 --> 00:33:56,705 with your kids the next morning? 649 00:33:56,772 --> 00:33:57,707 JOE: It's difficult. 650 00:33:57,774 --> 00:33:59,176 With whatever operation 651 00:33:59,243 --> 00:34:00,746 you're conducting with the FBI, 652 00:34:00,813 --> 00:34:02,683 you still have family life to deal with. 653 00:34:04,353 --> 00:34:06,057 ZOE: Lord, thank you for watching over us. 654 00:34:06,123 --> 00:34:08,395 I thank you for our many blessings. 655 00:34:08,461 --> 00:34:11,801 You know, I always say everything is for a reason. 656 00:34:11,868 --> 00:34:16,110 And we weren't together six months when we got engaged. 657 00:34:16,177 --> 00:34:17,479 About six months. 658 00:34:17,547 --> 00:34:19,016 - And we've been together 15 years. 659 00:34:19,083 --> 00:34:20,887 - Yeah, yeah. 660 00:34:20,954 --> 00:34:22,757 [upbeat rock music] 661 00:34:22,824 --> 00:34:24,694 ♪♪ ♪♪ 662 00:34:24,761 --> 00:34:27,466 JOE: I have four children in total, 663 00:34:27,534 --> 00:34:30,305 one from a previous marriage. 664 00:34:30,372 --> 00:34:32,209 ZOE: Joe just told me that there was a man 665 00:34:32,276 --> 00:34:33,712 that they was wanting to kill 666 00:34:33,779 --> 00:34:36,117 and that this was gonna be some dangerous waters. 667 00:34:36,183 --> 00:34:39,691 He didn't even know what he was going to be stepping into, 668 00:34:39,758 --> 00:34:41,160 so I was always worried. 669 00:34:41,227 --> 00:34:44,868 - Good job, bud. Yeah. 670 00:34:44,934 --> 00:34:48,775 I would wonder about what would happen to my family 671 00:34:48,842 --> 00:34:52,215 if I was discovered all the time, 672 00:34:52,282 --> 00:34:56,090 every day, every second 673 00:34:56,157 --> 00:34:59,296 of being operational. 674 00:34:59,363 --> 00:35:01,300 - The burden that it put on me-- 675 00:35:01,367 --> 00:35:04,808 and it wasn't just me. It's our children. 676 00:35:04,874 --> 00:35:08,047 We were worried. 677 00:35:08,114 --> 00:35:09,951 Is he gonna be safe? 678 00:35:10,018 --> 00:35:12,990 Are we gonna be safe? 679 00:35:13,057 --> 00:35:15,930 [soft dramatic music] 680 00:35:15,997 --> 00:35:17,465 JOE: After the holidays, 681 00:35:17,533 --> 00:35:19,202 I got a call from Charles Newcomb 682 00:35:19,269 --> 00:35:22,910 that he wanted to go on a reconnaissance. 683 00:35:31,662 --> 00:35:33,765 JOE: It is Charles Newcomb who, in fact, 684 00:35:33,832 --> 00:35:37,172 did take charge of the overall operation 685 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,675 and was essentially the puppet master 686 00:35:38,742 --> 00:35:40,512 of all the pieces that were moving. 687 00:35:46,223 --> 00:35:49,664 I was told by Charles Newcomb 688 00:35:49,731 --> 00:35:53,138 that we were going to surveil his location 689 00:35:53,204 --> 00:35:58,214 in order to further identify the plan to murder him. 690 00:36:06,397 --> 00:36:10,740 And I asked him if Brother David Moran 691 00:36:10,807 --> 00:36:12,375 would be attending. He said yes. 692 00:36:12,442 --> 00:36:13,645 And I said, "What about Brother Driver?" 693 00:36:21,662 --> 00:36:25,402 JOE: He said, "Brother Driver will be working that day." 694 00:36:25,468 --> 00:36:26,905 In the back of my head, I'm thinking, 695 00:36:26,972 --> 00:36:28,542 "You're making sure he is working on the day 696 00:36:28,609 --> 00:36:31,213 we're just doing reconnaissance." 697 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,985 So there's a little red flag that popped up for me there. 698 00:36:42,235 --> 00:36:43,672 The morning I left my home, 699 00:36:43,739 --> 00:36:46,644 I had to secretly meet with the FBI. 700 00:36:48,649 --> 00:36:50,151 JASON: They had outfitted Joe's truck 701 00:36:50,218 --> 00:36:52,222 with numerous microphones. 702 00:36:52,289 --> 00:36:55,394 And Joe, of course, had a recording device as well. 703 00:37:02,877 --> 00:37:04,480 GEORGE: What would have happened to Joe 704 00:37:04,548 --> 00:37:06,450 had they discovered the wire? 705 00:37:06,518 --> 00:37:09,423 - On the surface, you would think they would 706 00:37:09,490 --> 00:37:12,997 probably react emotionally, violently. 707 00:37:13,064 --> 00:37:15,401 - Would they have killed him? - I think so. 708 00:37:25,889 --> 00:37:28,729 I showed up at Charles Newcomb's home. 709 00:37:28,795 --> 00:37:32,904 And I'm thinking, "OK, I have to hope for the best, 710 00:37:32,971 --> 00:37:35,876 but I have to expect the worst." 711 00:37:35,943 --> 00:37:39,149 JASON: The general plan was to case the area 712 00:37:39,216 --> 00:37:43,693 and get intelligence for a future drive. 713 00:37:43,759 --> 00:37:47,566 What he'd find out is that Newcomb had other plans. 714 00:37:55,214 --> 00:37:57,419 JASON: Injecting someone who's not diabetic 715 00:37:57,485 --> 00:37:59,489 with too much insulin poisons them. 716 00:37:59,557 --> 00:38:01,661 It kills them. 717 00:38:12,917 --> 00:38:15,789 - They were gonna take him out on the spot using those drugs. 718 00:38:15,856 --> 00:38:18,695 - They also had thought ahead 719 00:38:18,762 --> 00:38:20,666 how to get rid of all the evidence. 720 00:38:20,732 --> 00:38:21,668 JOE: Yes. 721 00:38:31,353 --> 00:38:33,826 - So the fishing pole that day that they introduced 722 00:38:33,893 --> 00:38:36,665 was really to set the scene to make it look like 723 00:38:36,732 --> 00:38:39,102 it was a normal day, the victim was out fishing, 724 00:38:39,169 --> 00:38:42,275 and then he had had a medical condition collapse, 725 00:38:42,342 --> 00:38:43,612 and he was face down in the water. 726 00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:09,430 - So he puts the fishing gear in the back of my SUV, 727 00:39:09,496 --> 00:39:13,070 where some of the FBI equipment is. 728 00:39:13,137 --> 00:39:16,544 And I'm thinking... - Don't open that. 729 00:39:18,615 --> 00:39:20,418 JOE: David Moran showed up, 730 00:39:20,484 --> 00:39:23,792 and there was an exchange of firearms. 731 00:39:33,177 --> 00:39:35,582 I was not able to inform the FBI 732 00:39:35,649 --> 00:39:40,826 of the intent of these guys to kill Mr. Williams. 733 00:39:40,893 --> 00:39:44,466 - It's easy to watch TV and believe the FBI is-- 734 00:39:44,534 --> 00:39:46,505 is everywhere and that they're-- 735 00:39:46,572 --> 00:39:48,074 that they're in vans down the street. 736 00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:51,314 The reality is the idea that we can 737 00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:55,623 have an immediate response-- it's just not feasible. 738 00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:59,564 Joe Moore was out there operating on his skills, 739 00:39:59,631 --> 00:40:02,703 on his instincts, on his ability to react. 740 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,352 - They're talking through how they might even 741 00:40:27,419 --> 00:40:29,222 alternatively dispose of the body. 742 00:40:37,506 --> 00:40:39,109 JOE: The closer we got to Palatka, 743 00:40:39,175 --> 00:40:41,614 it's like these guys just-- 744 00:40:41,681 --> 00:40:45,087 Moran got more excited. Newcomb got more serious. 745 00:41:04,326 --> 00:41:06,097 JOE: When we pulled into Warren's neighborhood, 746 00:41:06,163 --> 00:41:10,071 there were people walking on the sidewalks, 747 00:41:10,138 --> 00:41:12,543 sitting outside their front doors. 748 00:41:31,982 --> 00:41:36,457 - Almost immediately, as we turn on to the road 749 00:41:36,524 --> 00:41:41,366 where Warren Williams lived, there was an obvious presence 750 00:41:41,433 --> 00:41:44,273 of law enforcement. 751 00:41:44,339 --> 00:41:46,110 CHRIS: Enough law enforcement presence 752 00:41:46,176 --> 00:41:49,383 was arranged in that area, visible, 753 00:41:49,449 --> 00:41:52,155 to dissuade them from doing 754 00:41:52,221 --> 00:41:55,027 anything rash and sudden. 755 00:41:56,196 --> 00:41:57,867 JOE: They told me law enforcement would 756 00:41:57,933 --> 00:42:02,844 be in the area, but I had no idea what the plan was. 757 00:42:02,910 --> 00:42:05,583 - Now, there's much that goes on in the background 758 00:42:05,649 --> 00:42:08,187 that we don't necessarily tell the informant. 759 00:42:10,959 --> 00:42:13,598 JOE: An unmarked vehicle showed up immediately 760 00:42:13,665 --> 00:42:17,171 and pulled right in behind us. 761 00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:26,858 I saw the expression on Newcomb's face. 762 00:42:26,925 --> 00:42:28,628 He was ready to jump into battle, 763 00:42:28,695 --> 00:42:31,635 and I'd be right in the middle of it. 764 00:42:31,701 --> 00:42:33,404 - You're thinking he could pull the gun out at any moment? 765 00:42:33,471 --> 00:42:35,241 - Absolutely. 766 00:42:36,110 --> 00:42:38,114 CHRIS: While we're in control of parts of it there, 767 00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:41,822 we can't control Newcomb and Moran's reaction. 768 00:42:41,888 --> 00:42:46,163 And it does pose danger to Joe Moore. 769 00:42:52,175 --> 00:42:55,147 - I kept driving. I kept my mouth shut. 770 00:42:55,214 --> 00:42:57,987 I turned left, 771 00:42:58,053 --> 00:43:01,093 and that vehicle stayed right behind us. 772 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,065 Moran kept turning around, watching them. 773 00:43:09,877 --> 00:43:12,015 JOE: We went around the block twice, 774 00:43:12,081 --> 00:43:17,058 and that patrol vehicle stayed behind us the whole time. 775 00:43:17,125 --> 00:43:20,932 Newcomb let out a breath of exasperation, 776 00:43:20,999 --> 00:43:24,840 as if he was getting even more pissed. 777 00:43:28,181 --> 00:43:30,018 JOE: It was like I almost had to have three eyes, 778 00:43:30,085 --> 00:43:33,224 one on Newcomb, one on the road, 779 00:43:33,290 --> 00:43:35,060 and one on Moran. 780 00:43:46,885 --> 00:43:50,659 I was thinking to myself, get myself under control, 781 00:43:50,726 --> 00:43:53,798 breathe, focus, observe. 782 00:43:57,773 --> 00:44:00,111 - I put my hand on my sidearm. 783 00:44:00,178 --> 00:44:03,150 I turned right onto the highway 784 00:44:03,217 --> 00:44:06,256 and drove out, 785 00:44:06,323 --> 00:44:10,164 and that vehicle pulled over and did a U-turn. 786 00:44:14,974 --> 00:44:19,249 I thought to myself, "Thank God." 787 00:44:22,823 --> 00:44:25,327 However, Newcomb was very suspicious. 788 00:44:54,252 --> 00:44:58,360 - What they were planning to do became more and more 789 00:44:58,427 --> 00:45:00,131 shocking and disturbing. 790 00:45:00,197 --> 00:45:03,370 It was clear they wanted him killed. 791 00:45:18,034 --> 00:45:19,971 PAUL: And so what we needed to do was come up 792 00:45:20,037 --> 00:45:23,377 with an alternative so that it prevented them 793 00:45:23,444 --> 00:45:26,116 from taking independent action, 794 00:45:26,182 --> 00:45:29,255 and we can ensure the victim was safe at all times. 795 00:45:32,863 --> 00:45:36,504 LATONYA: Warren did, I think, almost a year in prison. 796 00:45:36,571 --> 00:45:38,542 And you know, when he came home, 797 00:45:38,609 --> 00:45:40,011 he told me, he said, 798 00:45:40,078 --> 00:45:42,817 "Mama, ain't nobody gonna ever hear my story." 799 00:45:42,884 --> 00:45:45,054 I was like, "OK. 800 00:45:45,121 --> 00:45:48,460 Well, sit down and tell me your story." 801 00:45:48,528 --> 00:45:50,431 [soft dramatic music] 802 00:45:50,498 --> 00:45:52,603 ♪♪ ♪♪ 803 00:45:52,669 --> 00:45:57,412 WARREN: I believe it was about three months into my sentence 804 00:45:57,478 --> 00:46:00,986 that I got into the incident with him. 805 00:46:01,053 --> 00:46:03,925 Some type of feeling overcame me, 806 00:46:03,992 --> 00:46:07,131 and I took it out on him. 807 00:46:07,198 --> 00:46:09,502 After what I did to him, 808 00:46:09,570 --> 00:46:11,406 he told me to get on the floor, 809 00:46:11,473 --> 00:46:16,784 and another officer demanded that he whoop my ass. 810 00:46:16,851 --> 00:46:21,493 Broke my finger, hit me in the mouth, 811 00:46:21,561 --> 00:46:24,166 hit me in the eye, 812 00:46:24,232 --> 00:46:27,105 and I think he Maced me, too, in the same eye. 813 00:46:27,171 --> 00:46:28,975 And I was feeling like, you know, 814 00:46:29,042 --> 00:46:31,914 he might as well just go ahead and kill me. 815 00:46:31,981 --> 00:46:38,393 ♪♪ ♪♪ 816 00:46:38,460 --> 00:46:40,966 LATONYA: Warren had went to probation one day, 817 00:46:41,033 --> 00:46:43,705 and, you know, he was doing fine. 818 00:46:43,772 --> 00:46:48,247 So he went, and later, 819 00:46:48,314 --> 00:46:51,053 driving with a friend of mine, 820 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,794 and we was at a red light. 821 00:46:54,861 --> 00:46:57,164 ♪♪ ♪♪ 822 00:46:58,668 --> 00:47:02,075 And this--this van, 823 00:47:02,141 --> 00:47:04,313 you know, waving me down. 824 00:47:04,379 --> 00:47:08,888 The man presented himself. You know, "We FBI, 825 00:47:08,955 --> 00:47:11,226 And I can't tell you anything else." 826 00:47:11,293 --> 00:47:14,667 I said, "Well, you don't have to tell me anything else 827 00:47:14,734 --> 00:47:16,938 because I already know." 828 00:47:17,005 --> 00:47:19,242 I said, "Somebody done put a hit out on Warren." 829 00:47:19,308 --> 00:47:21,446 PAUL: She spontaneously just mentioned 830 00:47:21,514 --> 00:47:23,584 that it was those correctional officers 831 00:47:23,651 --> 00:47:25,989 that had the confrontation With her son, 832 00:47:26,056 --> 00:47:27,893 and they hadn't gotten over that. 833 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,532 We didn't confirm who was behind it, 834 00:47:30,598 --> 00:47:33,204 but she assumed accurately. 835 00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:35,140 LATONYA: So, you know, we turned around 836 00:47:35,207 --> 00:47:36,644 and went back to the house. 837 00:47:36,711 --> 00:47:38,480 They said they needed to get some pictures 838 00:47:38,548 --> 00:47:42,454 that seemed like that somebody did kill him. 839 00:47:42,522 --> 00:47:44,359 WARREN: You know, they was telling me 840 00:47:44,426 --> 00:47:48,300 that I have an option to go with them 841 00:47:48,367 --> 00:47:52,442 because someone was after me. 842 00:47:52,510 --> 00:47:54,212 CHRIS: We need to make sure you're protected, 843 00:47:54,279 --> 00:47:56,918 and, hey, we need to stage this murder. 844 00:47:56,984 --> 00:47:58,922 [clock ticking] 845 00:47:58,988 --> 00:48:00,759 Williams was positioned on the floor 846 00:48:00,826 --> 00:48:03,397 with what appeared to be gunshot wounds to his chest, 847 00:48:03,464 --> 00:48:06,670 which had been discussed with Driver. 848 00:48:11,781 --> 00:48:13,184 LATONYA: So you know, they-- 849 00:48:13,250 --> 00:48:15,555 they knocked some stuff around on the floor. 850 00:48:15,622 --> 00:48:20,933 - They poured water on me like I peed my pants, 851 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,772 and they took a couple photos. 852 00:48:23,838 --> 00:48:25,575 [camera clicking] 853 00:48:29,583 --> 00:48:33,057 And after, we were to leave and go to a hotel 854 00:48:33,124 --> 00:48:37,566 until the situation was under wraps. 855 00:48:37,633 --> 00:48:40,773 TERRILL: He had been required to stage his own death 856 00:48:40,839 --> 00:48:42,977 and was whisked away. 857 00:48:43,043 --> 00:48:47,553 It's--it's just something that's unimaginable. 858 00:48:47,619 --> 00:48:49,723 [camera clicking] 859 00:49:00,177 --> 00:49:01,948 LATONYA: When they took Warren, 860 00:49:02,015 --> 00:49:05,655 they didn't tell me where they was taking him. 861 00:49:07,959 --> 00:49:10,666 It just something that needed to happen. 862 00:49:10,733 --> 00:49:13,538 [bluesy music] 863 00:49:13,605 --> 00:49:15,876 WARREN: They didn't tell me exactly who was after me, 864 00:49:15,943 --> 00:49:20,785 because they wouldn't want to ruin an ongoing investigation. 865 00:49:20,852 --> 00:49:25,662 But I was able to, you know, just trust them. 866 00:49:25,729 --> 00:49:27,800 ♪♪ ♪♪ 867 00:49:27,866 --> 00:49:29,903 CHRIS: The more evidence you can bring 868 00:49:29,970 --> 00:49:32,141 only helps the prosecution's case. 869 00:49:32,208 --> 00:49:34,680 To round out the case and prove 870 00:49:34,747 --> 00:49:36,651 that this was more than just talk, 871 00:49:36,717 --> 00:49:38,721 Joe Moore was given a photo 872 00:49:38,788 --> 00:49:43,263 to show them and ask again, "Is this what you wanted?" 873 00:49:44,567 --> 00:49:46,436 JOE: No one told me beforehand 874 00:49:46,504 --> 00:49:49,510 that they were going to set that up. 875 00:49:49,577 --> 00:49:51,279 ♪♪ ♪♪ 876 00:49:51,346 --> 00:49:53,952 SINGER: ♪♪ Hell, brimstone ♪♪ 877 00:49:54,019 --> 00:49:57,358 ♪♪ Fire burn on ♪♪ 878 00:49:57,425 --> 00:49:59,697 ♪♪ This is the fire ♪♪ 879 00:49:59,764 --> 00:50:03,170 ♪♪ ♪♪ 880 00:50:03,237 --> 00:50:04,840 GEORGE: The FBI hands you a phone 881 00:50:04,907 --> 00:50:07,211 with a picture of Warren Williams on the ground. 882 00:50:07,278 --> 00:50:08,581 What did you think when you saw that? 883 00:50:08,648 --> 00:50:13,624 JOE: I'm thinking... I failed. 884 00:50:13,691 --> 00:50:15,596 And then they sort of snickered 885 00:50:15,662 --> 00:50:16,597 and laughed and said, 886 00:50:16,664 --> 00:50:18,166 "It's just a staged death scene. 887 00:50:18,233 --> 00:50:20,839 We wanted to see how effective it was." 888 00:50:20,906 --> 00:50:23,244 ♪♪ ♪♪ 889 00:50:23,310 --> 00:50:25,414 - And what did the FBI ask you to do with that photo? 890 00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:29,288 - I was to present this photo to the three guys, 891 00:50:29,355 --> 00:50:31,059 as I was the hit man. 892 00:50:31,126 --> 00:50:33,964 I did this job to sort of 893 00:50:34,031 --> 00:50:36,270 give the defendants a chance 894 00:50:36,336 --> 00:50:40,144 to say they really 895 00:50:40,211 --> 00:50:43,150 didn't intend this, 896 00:50:43,216 --> 00:50:46,824 or to suggest that, yes, this is what they wanted. 897 00:50:46,891 --> 00:50:49,563 ♪♪ ♪♪ 898 00:50:55,642 --> 00:50:58,146 JASON: He was outfitted with a secret video camera. 899 00:50:58,213 --> 00:51:02,021 And he knows that his life is in danger. 900 00:51:02,087 --> 00:51:05,796 He's seen what these men are capable of. 901 00:51:05,862 --> 00:51:07,967 They would kill him if they found 902 00:51:08,033 --> 00:51:09,737 that he was wearing a wire. 903 00:51:09,804 --> 00:51:12,809 ♪♪ ♪♪ 904 00:51:12,876 --> 00:51:16,483 JOE: I made messages for my wife and children. 905 00:51:16,551 --> 00:51:18,153 - In case something happened to you? 906 00:51:18,220 --> 00:51:19,623 - Because every day, 907 00:51:19,690 --> 00:51:21,927 there's a chance I wasn't coming home. 908 00:51:21,994 --> 00:51:24,032 - What were they? 909 00:51:24,098 --> 00:51:28,274 - The last words that 910 00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:31,881 I felt they wanted to hear from me. 911 00:51:31,948 --> 00:51:33,551 ♪♪ ♪♪ 912 00:51:33,618 --> 00:51:37,759 GEORGE: So what happened when you showed them the phone? 913 00:51:37,826 --> 00:51:40,464 JOE: When I drove to meet with David Moran 914 00:51:40,532 --> 00:51:43,369 to show him the photo, I had a little bit of time 915 00:51:43,436 --> 00:51:45,675 to get into character slowly 916 00:51:45,742 --> 00:51:49,683 and think about what I had to do. 917 00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:52,354 ♪♪ ♪♪ 918 00:52:04,412 --> 00:52:08,353 Moran was known for being 919 00:52:08,420 --> 00:52:10,692 an extremely dangerous person, 920 00:52:10,758 --> 00:52:13,865 beating prisoners to within an inch of their life, 921 00:52:13,932 --> 00:52:19,408 and I was very worried about showing him the photo. 922 00:52:30,999 --> 00:52:34,706 - He was excited and gleeful, 923 00:52:34,773 --> 00:52:36,342 and I thought to myself, 924 00:52:36,409 --> 00:52:39,482 "How disgusting can someone be?" 925 00:52:39,550 --> 00:52:42,388 But I just had to maintain my composure, 926 00:52:42,455 --> 00:52:44,392 maintain my character. 927 00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:49,368 - Don't interject, and let him do the talking. 928 00:53:10,845 --> 00:53:13,316 [engine turns over] 929 00:53:22,769 --> 00:53:25,374 JOE: It was upsetting, but I can't dwell on that. 930 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,015 I can't quit. That's not an option. 931 00:53:29,082 --> 00:53:32,021 It's on me to make this case. 932 00:53:32,087 --> 00:53:34,994 JASON: At this point, Joe is so deep in this case. 933 00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:38,233 Even with all the stress, there's a job to finish. 934 00:53:43,177 --> 00:53:45,147 JOE: I met with Thomas Driver 935 00:53:45,213 --> 00:53:49,122 at a parking lot of a shopping mall 936 00:53:49,188 --> 00:53:51,292 in Lake City, Florida. 937 00:53:52,862 --> 00:53:57,639 Since this particular case started with him, 938 00:53:57,706 --> 00:54:00,477 it needed his approval. 939 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,621 - If Thomas Driver had said that he didn't want 940 00:54:21,687 --> 00:54:23,525 the target, Williams, dead, 941 00:54:23,591 --> 00:54:25,862 the entire case would have fell apart. 942 00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:49,977 [chuckles] 943 00:54:50,044 --> 00:54:54,051 JOE: He appeared to get the blood that he wanted. 944 00:55:02,802 --> 00:55:05,975 When I got back into the vehicle... 945 00:55:09,014 --> 00:55:12,088 I felt a huge relief. 946 00:55:12,154 --> 00:55:14,860 [dramatic music] 947 00:55:14,927 --> 00:55:19,703 However, when I had to go meet with Charles Newcomb, 948 00:55:19,769 --> 00:55:22,509 that was probably the most intense meeting. 949 00:55:22,576 --> 00:55:24,980 ♪♪ ♪♪ 950 00:55:25,047 --> 00:55:27,117 He was certainly the ringleader 951 00:55:27,184 --> 00:55:30,892 and probably the most driven of the three. 952 00:55:30,959 --> 00:55:33,664 ♪♪ ♪♪ 953 00:55:46,389 --> 00:55:51,266 Newcomb was so meticulous and had an attention to detail. 954 00:55:51,332 --> 00:55:53,403 It was alarming. 955 00:56:00,518 --> 00:56:02,822 JOE: Charles Newcomb was perhaps 956 00:56:02,889 --> 00:56:05,761 most likely to ask a dangerous question. 957 00:56:13,476 --> 00:56:18,019 I expected him to ask, "Where's the body?" 958 00:56:27,038 --> 00:56:30,010 Because there's a guy murdered. 959 00:56:30,077 --> 00:56:32,347 We don't see anything about it in the news. 960 00:56:32,414 --> 00:56:34,151 Where's the body? 961 00:56:49,281 --> 00:56:51,052 I had to come up with a way 962 00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:54,860 to get him off of his normal thought processes. 963 00:56:54,927 --> 00:56:58,467 And I thought, "OK, what can I do?" 964 00:56:58,534 --> 00:57:01,841 I can pretend to be sick, 965 00:57:01,907 --> 00:57:04,445 had powder on my face to look like I was pale. 966 00:57:10,792 --> 00:57:12,896 He looked at me, and I kind of tried 967 00:57:12,963 --> 00:57:16,469 to look like I was tired and exhausted. 968 00:57:27,992 --> 00:57:32,836 - I keep telling myself, "Breathe, focus, listen, 969 00:57:32,903 --> 00:57:36,677 breathe, focus, listen." 970 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,813 JOE: The moment where Charles Newcomb 971 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,020 became happy with it, I thought to myself, 972 00:57:58,086 --> 00:58:00,591 "Thank God." 973 00:58:00,658 --> 00:58:04,031 I have reached that crest. 974 00:58:08,005 --> 00:58:10,778 But I had seen so many false peaks 975 00:58:10,845 --> 00:58:15,420 that I questioned myself, "Is this really the end?" 976 00:58:16,289 --> 00:58:18,126 REPORTER: Shocking case coming to light. 977 00:58:18,193 --> 00:58:20,598 Three KKK members, who are current 978 00:58:20,665 --> 00:58:22,134 and former Florida corrections... 979 00:58:22,201 --> 00:58:23,738 REPORTER: The Attorney General, 980 00:58:23,805 --> 00:58:25,207 Pam Bondi, was fired up about these arrests. 981 00:58:25,274 --> 00:58:26,943 - Hey, guys. 982 00:58:30,383 --> 00:58:32,922 ANTWAN: Up at Charlotte Correctional, 983 00:58:32,989 --> 00:58:35,060 that's the prison I went home from, 984 00:58:35,127 --> 00:58:37,431 you know, the 6:00 news came on. 985 00:58:37,498 --> 00:58:39,101 So I'm like, "Man, what is that?" 986 00:58:39,168 --> 00:58:41,707 - Today, in conjunction with the FBI, 987 00:58:41,774 --> 00:58:43,443 three defendants were charged, 988 00:58:43,511 --> 00:58:46,817 all with conspiracy to commit first-degree murder. 989 00:58:46,884 --> 00:58:48,821 ANTWAN: They showed the pictures of the officers. 990 00:58:48,888 --> 00:58:50,357 And I recognized chief. 991 00:58:50,423 --> 00:58:53,430 I said, "That's Chief. Man, what the hell?" 992 00:58:53,496 --> 00:58:55,100 And then I heard the story. 993 00:58:55,167 --> 00:58:57,304 PAM: All three were employees 994 00:58:57,371 --> 00:58:59,442 of the Department of Corrections 995 00:58:59,510 --> 00:59:03,517 and are known alleged members 996 00:59:03,584 --> 00:59:05,822 of the Ku Klux Klan. 997 00:59:05,889 --> 00:59:07,992 - So it was--[chuckles] I went through 998 00:59:08,059 --> 00:59:09,829 all the emotions sitting there watching this. 999 00:59:09,896 --> 00:59:12,602 I'm not gonna lie, my first thought was, 1000 00:59:12,669 --> 00:59:14,238 "These guards, they done went crazy now." 1001 00:59:14,305 --> 00:59:16,308 - And, again, no one has been convicted yet. 1002 00:59:16,375 --> 00:59:17,979 These are pending charges, 1003 00:59:18,045 --> 00:59:21,452 but the facts of this case are despicable. 1004 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,425 [soft dramatic music] 1005 00:59:24,492 --> 00:59:26,062 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1006 00:59:26,129 --> 00:59:29,334 WARREN: I saw that the officers had gotten arrested. 1007 00:59:31,372 --> 00:59:34,980 I knew that everything had worked out. 1008 00:59:35,046 --> 00:59:37,919 It was time for me to go back home. 1009 00:59:39,723 --> 00:59:41,693 JOE: After Driver, Newcomb, and Moran 1010 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,165 were taken into custody... 1011 00:59:44,231 --> 00:59:48,373 my wife, my children, and I were taken 1012 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,609 into protective custody. 1013 00:59:49,676 --> 00:59:52,214 - The FBI had called us, and they said 1014 00:59:52,281 --> 00:59:55,822 to get what you need and you have to leave. 1015 00:59:55,888 --> 00:59:59,729 So fit everything that you can into your car, and that's it. 1016 00:59:59,796 --> 01:00:02,233 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1017 01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,206 JOE: It's an incredibly emotional feeling. 1018 01:00:07,378 --> 01:00:12,287 But I had to struggle with this character 1019 01:00:12,354 --> 01:00:16,062 that I had been for so many years. 1020 01:00:16,129 --> 01:00:18,800 You try to get back to your life, 1021 01:00:18,867 --> 01:00:23,176 but it becomes more and more difficult... 1022 01:00:23,243 --> 01:00:28,152 to discard or insulate yourself from that character. 1023 01:00:28,219 --> 01:00:32,829 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1024 01:00:32,896 --> 01:00:34,666 - Joe being undercover for so long, 1025 01:00:34,732 --> 01:00:36,670 it just--it takes a toll. 1026 01:00:36,737 --> 01:00:39,943 I was ready to start over new. 1027 01:00:45,386 --> 01:00:47,324 CHRIS: The arrests occur in April. 1028 01:00:47,391 --> 01:00:51,499 And then two years later, a trial. 1029 01:00:51,567 --> 01:00:52,735 Now Joe Moore 1030 01:00:52,802 --> 01:00:54,071 is going to testify 1031 01:00:54,137 --> 01:00:56,543 as the key state's witness. 1032 01:00:56,610 --> 01:01:00,416 JASON: Driver got a reduced, four-year sentence 1033 01:01:00,483 --> 01:01:03,924 after entering a guilty plea to a lesser charge. 1034 01:01:03,991 --> 01:01:07,532 Both Moran and Newcomb 1035 01:01:07,598 --> 01:01:11,272 stood trial for conspiracy to commit murder. 1036 01:01:11,339 --> 01:01:13,109 LATONYA: We got in the courthouse. 1037 01:01:13,176 --> 01:01:15,213 They had FBI agents there. 1038 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,552 They had so many polices there, 1039 01:01:17,619 --> 01:01:19,689 and Warren, he was all right. 1040 01:01:19,756 --> 01:01:23,831 He don't show a lot of emotions. 1041 01:01:23,898 --> 01:01:26,335 He just hold 'em in. 1042 01:01:26,402 --> 01:01:30,645 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1043 01:01:30,712 --> 01:01:33,717 JOE: The defense in this case was not able to attack 1044 01:01:33,784 --> 01:01:36,288 the facts of the case. 1045 01:01:50,016 --> 01:01:53,055 They couldn't deny the fact 1046 01:01:53,122 --> 01:01:55,995 of Williams as being the victim. 1047 01:01:56,061 --> 01:01:59,970 The only thing they could attack was me. 1048 01:02:00,037 --> 01:02:02,942 [tense music] 1049 01:02:03,009 --> 01:02:05,080 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1050 01:02:05,147 --> 01:02:08,386 - You got paid by the FBI? - Yes. 1051 01:02:08,453 --> 01:02:09,689 - How much? 1052 01:02:09,756 --> 01:02:13,362 - For the 10-year span, 1053 01:02:13,429 --> 01:02:16,001 somewhere over $100,000. 1054 01:02:16,068 --> 01:02:18,439 GEORGE: And at the trial... JOE: Yes. 1055 01:02:18,507 --> 01:02:21,112 GEORGE: The defense tried to make an issue of this? 1056 01:02:21,178 --> 01:02:22,481 - Yes. 1057 01:02:22,548 --> 01:02:24,452 - But you say you weren't doing this for the money. 1058 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,654 - I was not. 1059 01:02:25,721 --> 01:02:27,357 At one point, I actually told the FBI, 1060 01:02:27,424 --> 01:02:30,330 "Don't pay me anything. Just cover expenses." 1061 01:02:30,397 --> 01:02:33,870 - The concept that Joe Moore would not have been paid 1062 01:02:33,937 --> 01:02:36,242 or his payments were contingent 1063 01:02:36,308 --> 01:02:40,951 on positive reporting or results is just a fallacy. 1064 01:02:41,018 --> 01:02:44,124 If his payments were dependent on arrests 1065 01:02:44,191 --> 01:02:46,930 or successful operations, 1066 01:02:46,997 --> 01:02:50,705 then we wouldn't have been paying him up to that point. 1067 01:02:50,772 --> 01:02:54,712 - Defense also tried to argue that your mental-health issues 1068 01:02:54,779 --> 01:02:57,284 made you an unreliable witness. 1069 01:02:57,351 --> 01:02:59,823 - That's fine. 1070 01:02:59,889 --> 01:03:02,127 Prove it. 1071 01:03:02,194 --> 01:03:06,001 - Not one element of his mental-health struggles 1072 01:03:06,068 --> 01:03:07,772 dealt with truthfulness, 1073 01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:10,745 and they can say his truthfulness 1074 01:03:10,812 --> 01:03:12,649 was suspect all they want. 1075 01:03:12,715 --> 01:03:15,554 Tapes don't lie. 1076 01:03:15,621 --> 01:03:18,059 JASON: Joe weathered the cross-examination well, 1077 01:03:18,125 --> 01:03:20,898 and the jury found him credible enough 1078 01:03:20,964 --> 01:03:23,871 to find these men guilty. 1079 01:03:23,937 --> 01:03:27,845 Moran and Newcomb were sentenced to 12 years each. 1080 01:03:27,912 --> 01:03:29,850 LATONYA: And I thank God for it, 1081 01:03:29,916 --> 01:03:31,686 and I thank God for the informant 1082 01:03:31,753 --> 01:03:33,456 that told his story, 1083 01:03:33,524 --> 01:03:36,362 that put his life on the line for us, 1084 01:03:36,429 --> 01:03:40,103 because this could have been so wrong. 1085 01:03:40,169 --> 01:03:42,407 It could have been so wrong. 1086 01:03:47,083 --> 01:03:49,556 [instrumental hip-hop beat] 1087 01:03:49,623 --> 01:03:53,196 JASON: For Warren, even though that plot 1088 01:03:53,263 --> 01:03:55,334 was foiled and these men were put in prison, 1089 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,208 he lives with a constant fear that someone's gonna come 1090 01:03:59,275 --> 01:04:02,247 and finish what their Klan brothers couldn't. 1091 01:04:02,314 --> 01:04:03,951 LATONYA: People know who we are, 1092 01:04:04,018 --> 01:04:07,157 but we don't know who all they are. 1093 01:04:07,224 --> 01:04:08,727 TERRILL: And so he found himself 1094 01:04:08,794 --> 01:04:11,232 just stuck in the house and looking out the window 1095 01:04:11,299 --> 01:04:14,004 and making sure no strange cars were around. 1096 01:04:14,071 --> 01:04:16,710 And that's a very difficult place to be 1097 01:04:16,777 --> 01:04:19,716 for years, for a lifetime. 1098 01:04:19,783 --> 01:04:22,254 WARREN: I kind of like being alone more, 1099 01:04:22,321 --> 01:04:27,063 but I try not to have too many friends because... 1100 01:04:27,130 --> 01:04:30,904 I really can't trust everybody in the world. 1101 01:04:30,971 --> 01:04:34,546 LATONYA: He will sit in the house and make beats, 1102 01:04:34,612 --> 01:04:36,616 He write poems. 1103 01:04:37,952 --> 01:04:41,225 He's more into poetry and music. 1104 01:04:41,292 --> 01:04:44,465 I don't really think he even talk to people. 1105 01:04:44,533 --> 01:04:47,003 You know, it was hard for him 1106 01:04:47,070 --> 01:04:50,243 to come out the house. 1107 01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:52,080 Warren hasn't been fishing. 1108 01:04:52,146 --> 01:04:55,487 - That serenity has totally been shattered 1109 01:04:55,555 --> 01:04:58,392 because that thing that he loves to do 1110 01:04:58,459 --> 01:05:01,933 was part of the plan of the Klan to kill him. 1111 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,906 [soft dramatic music] 1112 01:05:04,973 --> 01:05:07,410 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1113 01:05:07,477 --> 01:05:09,549 I had one very simple question after reporting 1114 01:05:09,616 --> 01:05:13,055 this story for Florida's corrections officials. 1115 01:05:13,122 --> 01:05:15,193 If you know that there were Klansmen 1116 01:05:15,260 --> 01:05:16,997 working in one of your prisons, 1117 01:05:17,064 --> 01:05:18,266 what have you done 1118 01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:19,836 to investigate whether or not 1119 01:05:19,903 --> 01:05:23,309 this is a wider problem? 1120 01:05:23,375 --> 01:05:26,683 And I was told by them that there was no indication 1121 01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:29,523 or evidence that would lead to a wider investigation. 1122 01:05:29,589 --> 01:05:32,127 I know that's not true in a couple of ways. 1123 01:05:32,193 --> 01:05:35,801 One, Joe Moore told me that he had evidence 1124 01:05:35,868 --> 01:05:37,638 that other members of the Klan 1125 01:05:37,705 --> 01:05:39,843 had also worked at that same prison. 1126 01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:41,580 JOE: As Grand Nighthawk, 1127 01:05:41,647 --> 01:05:45,153 I had access to membership lists, 1128 01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:46,990 and that information was vetted. 1129 01:05:47,056 --> 01:05:51,298 This list has not only Thomas Driver, 1130 01:05:51,365 --> 01:05:54,271 David Moran, and Charles Newcomb on the list, 1131 01:05:54,338 --> 01:05:56,976 it has other law enforcement officers 1132 01:05:57,043 --> 01:05:58,847 on the list as well. 1133 01:05:58,914 --> 01:06:01,151 JASON: Beyond Joe's list, my investigation 1134 01:06:01,218 --> 01:06:03,924 found numerous more recent cases 1135 01:06:03,991 --> 01:06:05,861 of Florida prison guards 1136 01:06:05,928 --> 01:06:08,734 who are suspected members of white supremacist groups 1137 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,038 at prisons throughout the state of Florida, 1138 01:06:11,104 --> 01:06:13,977 not just the Florida Reception and Medical Center. 1139 01:06:14,044 --> 01:06:17,317 This is QAnon symbolism here. 1140 01:06:17,384 --> 01:06:20,156 It's like a "Punisher." 1141 01:06:20,223 --> 01:06:24,364 If you drive to the parking lot of the prison 1142 01:06:24,431 --> 01:06:27,404 where these Klansmen work, you will see 1143 01:06:27,470 --> 01:06:30,511 symbols that are used by white supremacist groups 1144 01:06:30,577 --> 01:06:32,882 slapped on as stickers on the cars 1145 01:06:32,948 --> 01:06:34,653 in the employee parking lot, 1146 01:06:34,719 --> 01:06:37,257 and you would think that as somebody who works 1147 01:06:37,324 --> 01:06:40,096 for a state institution, those types of symbols, 1148 01:06:40,163 --> 01:06:41,967 while covered by the First Amendment, 1149 01:06:42,033 --> 01:06:43,804 would still be frowned upon. 1150 01:06:43,870 --> 01:06:45,641 There's an institutional indifference 1151 01:06:45,708 --> 01:06:47,343 by the Department of Corrections 1152 01:06:47,410 --> 01:06:51,018 to my questions and to this problem as a whole. 1153 01:06:51,085 --> 01:06:53,757 And we know this is just not a Florida problem. 1154 01:06:53,823 --> 01:06:56,630 It's just not a correctional problem. 1155 01:06:56,697 --> 01:06:58,700 - White nationalists are seeing it as their time. 1156 01:06:58,767 --> 01:07:00,705 [people chanting] 1157 01:07:00,771 --> 01:07:03,877 [impacts, people screaming, tires screeching] 1158 01:07:03,944 --> 01:07:06,282 MERRICK: The top domestic violent extremist threat 1159 01:07:06,348 --> 01:07:08,553 we face comes from racially 1160 01:07:08,620 --> 01:07:11,359 or ethnically motivated violent extremists, 1161 01:07:11,425 --> 01:07:14,833 specifically those who advocate for the superiority 1162 01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:16,035 of the white race. 1163 01:07:16,102 --> 01:07:18,507 JASON: Louisiana... 1164 01:07:18,574 --> 01:07:20,242 - Tonight a Lake Arthur police officer 1165 01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:22,781 is out of a job over a controversial picture... 1166 01:07:22,848 --> 01:07:24,952 REPORTER: Taken at a Ku Klux Klan meeting. 1167 01:07:25,019 --> 01:07:26,188 - Michigan... 1168 01:07:26,255 --> 01:07:27,892 - Muskegon police officer is now on leave 1169 01:07:27,959 --> 01:07:30,698 after KKK memorabilia was discovered in his home. 1170 01:07:30,764 --> 01:07:32,033 - Ohio... 1171 01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:33,904 - The Sheffield Lake police chief has resigned 1172 01:07:33,971 --> 01:07:37,444 after video emerged of him placing KKK imagery 1173 01:07:37,511 --> 01:07:40,884 on a raincoat belonging to a Black officer. 1174 01:07:40,951 --> 01:07:44,425 JASON: So the Klan is also evolving and morphing, 1175 01:07:44,491 --> 01:07:48,199 often joining up with other more modern groups. 1176 01:07:48,266 --> 01:07:50,470 all: [shouting indistinctly] Stop the steal! 1177 01:07:50,538 --> 01:07:52,107 GREG: From the Proud Boys to the Oath Keepers 1178 01:07:52,173 --> 01:07:53,510 to the Klan, 1179 01:07:53,577 --> 01:07:56,850 that ribbon of racial identity or white supremacy 1180 01:07:56,916 --> 01:07:58,253 runs through all of them. 1181 01:07:58,319 --> 01:08:00,256 PERSON: You fucking traitors! 1182 01:08:00,323 --> 01:08:03,262 GREG: These groups are trying to recruit law enforcement, 1183 01:08:03,328 --> 01:08:05,635 and they're using and twisting these symbols. 1184 01:08:05,701 --> 01:08:07,838 CHRIS: They're armed. They've had training. 1185 01:08:07,905 --> 01:08:10,678 They have access to confidential information. 1186 01:08:10,744 --> 01:08:12,347 GREG: When we talk about extremism 1187 01:08:12,414 --> 01:08:14,118 within law enforcement, 1188 01:08:14,184 --> 01:08:15,821 I've heard 1%. I've heard 2%. 1189 01:08:15,888 --> 01:08:19,696 Nobody wants to hear, "It's OK. I have 2% cancer." 1190 01:08:19,762 --> 01:08:21,767 It's going to spread. 1191 01:08:21,834 --> 01:08:24,505 JASON: The states that have tried to implement screening 1192 01:08:24,572 --> 01:08:27,311 have come against the correctional guards unions, 1193 01:08:27,377 --> 01:08:29,348 and they're powerful. 1194 01:08:29,415 --> 01:08:30,617 You see in the federal level, 1195 01:08:30,684 --> 01:08:32,721 hearings and discussions, at least, 1196 01:08:32,788 --> 01:08:35,359 of these types of problems, but at the state level, 1197 01:08:35,426 --> 01:08:37,899 they're not seemed to be taken very seriously. 1198 01:08:37,965 --> 01:08:40,403 [indistinct shouting] 1199 01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:42,775 TERRILL: And it's something that has to stop. 1200 01:08:42,841 --> 01:08:45,747 Until America decides 1201 01:08:45,814 --> 01:08:48,152 to live its creed... 1202 01:08:48,218 --> 01:08:51,459 and face up to its flaws, 1203 01:08:51,526 --> 01:08:53,362 there will continue to be stories 1204 01:08:53,429 --> 01:08:55,232 that shock the conscience. 1205 01:09:03,015 --> 01:09:05,754 JASON: After the trial, Joe's identity 1206 01:09:05,821 --> 01:09:07,457 is now discoverable 1207 01:09:07,524 --> 01:09:09,729 because he testified in open court. 1208 01:09:09,796 --> 01:09:11,833 - It's the last goal of the Bureau, 1209 01:09:11,900 --> 01:09:14,772 or any law enforcement, is to expose your informants. 1210 01:09:14,839 --> 01:09:20,283 Is it the case in some states and jurisdictions? 1211 01:09:20,350 --> 01:09:23,055 Sometimes you're required to. 1212 01:09:23,122 --> 01:09:25,895 - He is responsible for putting away 1213 01:09:25,961 --> 01:09:28,031 members of the Ku Klux Klan. 1214 01:09:28,098 --> 01:09:32,274 It's a betrayal, not only of his Klan oath 1215 01:09:32,340 --> 01:09:33,643 from the Klan point of view, 1216 01:09:33,710 --> 01:09:38,152 but also these men who he'd befriended. 1217 01:09:38,219 --> 01:09:40,289 The FBI gave him and his family 1218 01:09:40,356 --> 01:09:41,926 a new identity, new names 1219 01:09:41,993 --> 01:09:44,431 and put him into Witness Protection. 1220 01:09:44,497 --> 01:09:46,435 But at some point, 1221 01:09:46,502 --> 01:09:49,041 someone who is affiliated with the Klan contacted Joe 1222 01:09:49,108 --> 01:09:51,513 and said, "We know where you are." 1223 01:09:51,580 --> 01:09:53,883 JOE: We have had representatives 1224 01:09:53,950 --> 01:09:55,554 from the KKK come to our house, 1225 01:09:55,621 --> 01:09:57,791 let us know they know where we live. 1226 01:09:57,858 --> 01:10:01,966 We've had supporters of KKK contact us on our phones. 1227 01:10:03,803 --> 01:10:06,041 I have no choice but to come out and speak 1228 01:10:06,108 --> 01:10:07,678 to the general public 1229 01:10:07,745 --> 01:10:10,383 in an effort to try to bring light to the issues 1230 01:10:10,450 --> 01:10:12,955 that I uncovered when I was undercover. 1231 01:10:14,725 --> 01:10:18,199 If something were to happen to me 1232 01:10:18,266 --> 01:10:20,403 because of the threats, 1233 01:10:20,470 --> 01:10:22,908 I needed the world to know the truth. 1234 01:10:24,444 --> 01:10:26,348 ZOE: So the youngest doesn't grasp 1235 01:10:26,415 --> 01:10:29,154 what Daddy has really done, 1236 01:10:29,221 --> 01:10:32,027 but as far as my two older children, 1237 01:10:32,094 --> 01:10:36,302 they look at my husband as a hero. 1238 01:10:36,368 --> 01:10:38,908 - You recently met Warren Williams. 1239 01:10:38,974 --> 01:10:41,478 JOE: Yes, I did. 1240 01:10:41,546 --> 01:10:44,585 [soft dramatic music] 1241 01:10:44,652 --> 01:10:47,357 How you doing, Warren? Nice to finally meet you. 1242 01:10:47,424 --> 01:10:48,560 - Nice to meet you, too. 1243 01:10:48,627 --> 01:10:50,029 - Thank you so much for coming over. 1244 01:10:50,096 --> 01:10:52,301 - I'd like to say thank you for what you did for me. 1245 01:10:52,367 --> 01:10:54,037 - You got it, man. You got it. 1246 01:10:54,104 --> 01:10:55,507 - Thank you. 1247 01:10:57,009 --> 01:10:59,849 JOE: When I met Warren Williams... 1248 01:11:01,886 --> 01:11:03,389 I... 1249 01:11:03,456 --> 01:11:05,861 I was fighting back the tears. 1250 01:11:05,927 --> 01:11:08,833 You just want to open that gate right there for me? 1251 01:11:08,900 --> 01:11:13,811 Warren and I, we both like to fish. 1252 01:11:13,877 --> 01:11:15,914 I could see that when he's fishing, 1253 01:11:15,981 --> 01:11:18,920 he's just-- it's just him and nature. 1254 01:11:18,987 --> 01:11:22,628 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1255 01:11:22,695 --> 01:11:26,603 And it's just mind-blowing 1256 01:11:26,669 --> 01:11:31,078 how people can have so much disdain 1257 01:11:31,144 --> 01:11:33,316 for a fellow human being, 1258 01:11:33,382 --> 01:11:36,622 certainly one as such as Warren is. 1259 01:11:39,361 --> 01:11:41,465 - Can I ask a personal question? 1260 01:11:41,533 --> 01:11:43,102 - Sure. - It's not towards you. 1261 01:11:43,169 --> 01:11:47,344 - Oh, you can ask me anything. - It has to do with me. 1262 01:11:47,410 --> 01:11:48,746 - OK. 1263 01:11:48,813 --> 01:11:53,355 - No matter who you are, no matter how old you are, 1264 01:11:53,422 --> 01:11:55,260 you don't always make good decisions. 1265 01:11:55,326 --> 01:11:56,629 - Uh-huh. 1266 01:11:56,696 --> 01:12:00,270 - Someone has to be there to protect you. 1267 01:12:00,336 --> 01:12:04,712 Through thick and thin, somebody should be there... 1268 01:12:04,778 --> 01:12:05,881 right? 1269 01:12:05,947 --> 01:12:07,584 - Like... 1270 01:12:07,651 --> 01:12:11,993 having somebody you can go to for advice... 1271 01:12:12,059 --> 01:12:14,097 or... 1272 01:12:14,164 --> 01:12:16,168 - The kind of person you are. 1273 01:12:16,235 --> 01:12:18,172 - Oh. [chuckles] 1274 01:12:18,238 --> 01:12:21,145 So, in your situation, 1275 01:12:21,211 --> 01:12:24,484 you were not treated fairly. 1276 01:12:24,552 --> 01:12:27,390 There were so many things wrong with that. 1277 01:12:27,456 --> 01:12:29,962 And... 1278 01:12:30,029 --> 01:12:32,701 I sympathize with things 1279 01:12:32,768 --> 01:12:35,039 that you might have gone through, 1280 01:12:35,105 --> 01:12:37,711 and... 1281 01:12:37,778 --> 01:12:40,049 it's not any more complicated than that. 1282 01:12:40,116 --> 01:12:42,888 [tender music] 1283 01:12:42,955 --> 01:12:44,959 LATONYA: Warren have a beautiful soul. 1284 01:12:45,026 --> 01:12:46,294 He do. 1285 01:12:46,361 --> 01:12:48,299 He's a great person. 1286 01:12:48,365 --> 01:12:49,902 I raised Warren 1287 01:12:49,969 --> 01:12:52,741 to be the man that I would want to marry one day. 1288 01:12:52,808 --> 01:12:55,379 [laughs] And he is. 1289 01:12:55,446 --> 01:12:57,317 He is. 1290 01:12:57,383 --> 01:12:58,887 JOE: All right. 1291 01:12:58,954 --> 01:13:01,859 There you go, buddy-- a little one-pounder. 1292 01:13:01,926 --> 01:13:03,597 LATONYA: I want him 1293 01:13:03,664 --> 01:13:07,671 to at least try to move on with his life... 1294 01:13:07,738 --> 01:13:10,443 but I don't know if that will ever happen. 1295 01:13:10,511 --> 01:13:13,148 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1296 01:13:13,215 --> 01:13:17,925 TERRILL: But I think he's found a way to continue on. 1297 01:13:17,992 --> 01:13:21,332 He'll be able to talk about his experiences 1298 01:13:21,398 --> 01:13:23,102 through poetry. 1299 01:13:23,169 --> 01:13:25,139 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1300 01:13:25,206 --> 01:13:27,812 WARREN: "Love is trust. Love is compromise. 1301 01:13:27,878 --> 01:13:31,752 Love is a must in order to survive." 1302 01:13:31,819 --> 01:13:34,759 TERRILL: He has a story that America needs to hear. 1303 01:13:34,825 --> 01:13:37,263 He has a story that the world needs to hear. 1304 01:13:37,330 --> 01:13:38,600 And he's got a voice 1305 01:13:38,666 --> 01:13:41,271 that's gonna allow him to share that story. 1306 01:13:41,338 --> 01:13:44,512 WARREN: Love is a promise. Keep love alive. 1307 01:13:44,579 --> 01:13:46,950 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1308 01:13:47,017 --> 01:13:49,989 Know who you love before you define who to hate. 1309 01:13:50,056 --> 01:13:51,959 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1310 01:13:52,026 --> 01:13:54,364 The love you give is the love you get. 1311 01:13:54,431 --> 01:13:57,470 ♪♪ ♪♪ 1312 01:13:57,538 --> 01:14:01,344 No matter where you stand, no matter whom you're with. 1313 01:14:01,411 --> 01:14:07,791 ♪♪ ♪♪