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SKY ROBERTS: OK.
So this one is--
I think she's like seven there.
She's seven.
She's all dressed up for her--
AMANDA ROBERTS: Tinker Bell outfit.
SKY ROBERTS: Tinker Bell outfit, which is--
- Which is very true to who she is.
It's one of my favorite kid photos of her.
SKY ROBERTS: Yeah, she's like aspiring to be a model.
- Like her beauty is, like, unmatched, you know,
like, you can see the light in her eyes.
This is, like, my favorite photo of you two.
- I am the crier in my family, and
I don't apologize for it anymore, because there
are tears of strength now.
And it's for her.
My name is Sky Roberts.
I am the younger brother of Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
- My name is Amanda Roberts, and I'm the sister-in-law
of Virginia Roberts.
SKY ROBERTS: When I hear Jeffrey Epstein's name,
it makes my skin crawl.
He changed our family's lives forever.
She suffered at the hands of him, and he sex trafficked her.
- We're at this tipping point.
We are at that crossroads where we decide
which path we're going to take.
Virginia took down a prince, and that
is one for the history books.
- Here is a man who was a prince,
the queen's favorite son.
- It felt like an open secret.
- Now a complete pariah.
REPORTER: More controversy brewing
today over Prince Andrew and his links
to a convicted sex offender.
- When we talk about these 3 million documents,
what more is still to come?
REPORTER: The shocking royal arrest.
The former Prince Andrew taken into custody.
ROBERT JOBSON: If you continue to read these emails,
the biggest problem is that Andrew is a liar.
BIDISHA MAMATA: Deep inside the palace walls, the royal press
team are panicking.
ROBERT JOBSON: We're living in what is an absolutely modern
21st century royal scandal.
REPORTER: Doesn't seem to be a day that goes by that there
are not new revelations.
ROBERT JOBSON: I've been covering the royal family
for 35, 36 years, and I personally
think this is the biggest scandal they've had on my watch.
And that includes the time of Charles and Diana.
REPORTER: The story just grows and grows and grows.
ROBERT JOBSON: People have been demanding the full Epstein team
file for years.
Then, in late January, the US Department of Justice
suddenly dropped another major batch of documents.
3 million documents containing some of the deepest
secrets of the Epstein files.
- Graphic accusations of young women
and girls being trafficked to men
in rich and powerful positions.
ROBERT JOBSON: A member of the royal family in photos crouching
over young woman's body.
The thing is, everyone knows his face.
But also buried in here are emails between a sexual predator
and a literal Prince.
VICTORIA MURPHY: Epstein telling Andrew,
I have a friend who I think you might enjoy having dinner with.
ROBERT JOBSON: The Duke responds, give her my contact
details to get in touch.
VICTORIA MURPHY: Descriptions of women
Russian, clever, beautiful.
ROBERT JOBSON: Five other stunning redheads.
We will all just have to play with ourselves.
VICTORIA MURPHY: Andrew asking if someone has found me
some new inappropriate friends.
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ROBERT JOBSON: What I find extraordinary
is not necessarily that Andrew had the arrogance to do this.
It's that he was bringing a convicted sex
offender into places, into the Queen's private homes,
and nobody said anything.
BIDISHA MAMATA: This is such a fall from grace for Andrew.
There is no coming back from this.
This is incredibly serious.
NARRATOR: This young man who is destined
to be familiar with the camera all his life,
certainly isn't camera shy.
ALISA ANDERSON: The man formerly known as Prince Andrew.
He is the Queen's second son and her third child.
There was quite a big age difference
between Charles and Anne and then Andrew and Edward.
So the Queen had actually more settled
into her, her role as monarch, so she
could devote a bit more time to her younger two children.
There was clearly a really, really
special bond between the late Queen and her son.
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- Just like actors and actresses,
those who are young and beautiful or handsome
catch the eye of the population.
And Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, as Prince Andrew,
was very dashing.
LAMA HASAN: He was in the Royal Navy.
He was known as a Falklands War hero.
- We all remember those iconic images of him getting off
the ship, and he had that red rose in between his teeth,
and the crowds were roaring their approval.
- He gave a new meaning to HRH, His Royal Heartthrob.
LEWIS GOODALL: Andrew has had a reputation in Britain
which is not completely dissimilar to a lot
of the spares, if you like.
They're a little bit more wild, a little bit more carefree,
that they love to party.
They're almost slightly damaged.
LAMA HASAN: It's sort of party prince playboy lifestyle.
AILSA ANDERSON: He got the nickname
in the British tabloids as Randy Andy
because he had a series of very, very beautiful girlfriends.
The American actress Koo Stark.
Absolutely glamorous in the '80s.
And then he was introduced to Sarah Ferguson
by the late Princess of Wales, Princess Diana.
- You remember what he said?
- Absolutely, but I'm not telling you.
ALASTAIR BRUCE: She was a very boisterous and
enthusiastic woman.
She seemed to bring a freshness and excitement.
AILSA ANDERSON: She took his heart.
- I loved it today.
I was very proud of you.
AILSA ANDERSON: And it was a modern day
fairy tale for the two.
And the public loved it.
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- Why don't we kiss? - Why not?
- Why?
- Hurry up.
They're filming quick.
- You're a monster.
LAMA HASAN: But what's funny and perhaps sad
at the same time is that I think people remember
the scandals surrounding their marriage,
rather than the marriage itself.
ROBERT JOBSON: The notorious pictures
spread all over the papers.
- I mean, who could forget the toe sucking scandal?
- The Duchess of York is lying on a sun lounger, topless,
with her toes being sucked by her financial advisor.
REPORTER: The roles don't have their toes sucked by outsiders,
but if they do, it's not expected
that the proof will be published by the vulgar tabloid press.
- I didn't think that we'd ever get caught.
I didn't think that it would be like that,
or that the press would dig a trench for three days
and live in it.
- What was also worse is that her daughters
were there Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice.
Utterly humiliating for her and humiliating for Andrew as well.
REPORTER: The Duke and the Duchess of York,
better known as Prince Andrew and Fergie,
are planning a formal separation.
- For someone who has really always
been pining for love and acknowledgment and approval,
what could be better than standing on a balcony in front
of billions of people, shouting at you
and screaming and clapping?
[cheering]
I'm sure it went to my head and then sort of lost my way.
LAMA HASAN: If you look at his life and what he's achieved,
it just kind of fizzled away.
There was no role for him.
He didn't know what he stood for.
LEWIS GOODALL: And we see that play out with all the spares.
It is a recipe for sadness and forlornment and listlessness.
VICTORIA MURPHY: Over the years, it's
become very clear that there's been
a lot of money spent on what seemed
to be a very lavish lifestyle.
I think there's always been a certain amount of mystery
as to where the money has come from, how they
have afforded certain things.
BIDISHA MAMATA: Andrew wants to feel like he's
a glamorous, sexy guy.
How does he do it.
You have to pay for it.
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VICTORIA MURPHY: Andrew was introduced to Epstein
at some point in the '90s via Ghislaine Maxwell,
who was his friend.
AILSA ANDERSON: I think they were enthralled by him.
He was Machiavellian.
He was a Rasputin.
He was extraordinary and not in a good way.
BIDISHA MAMATA: Epstein wanted access.
He wanted to be in the innermost inner circle.
He did that through mixing with aristocracy,
mixing with royalty.
He was weaseling his way into royal circles.
Andrew wanted access to beautiful women.
He wanted a party lifestyle.
He wanted to get away from the stuffiness
of English royal life.
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VICTORIA MURPHY: I think what's been so illuminating
about these emails is that you really
get a sense of this free flow of communication and information
between Andrew and Epstein.
Buckingham Palace is mentioned quite a lot in these emails.
Andrew offers it as a location for a private dinner
with Epstein.
There's almost a sense that Andrew
has this what is a publicly-funded official
property at his disposal, and on a personal capacity.
BIDISHA MAMATA: He emails the Duke,
requesting private time together, lots of privacy.
These emails really look as if Andrew and Epstein are dating.
It's disgusting.
- I don't know what sort of power or information that
Jeffrey Epstein held over Sarah and Andrew,
but clearly it was something-- enough something to keep
that relationship going.
- What's really shocking is that it
appears that the two men remained really
close, even as Epstein was facing pretty
serious criminal charges.
VICTORIA MURPHY: Epstein was being investigated
for sex offenses involving girls as young as 14,
and in 2008, he reached what is now viewed
as a very controversial plea deal
to plead guilty to charges of soliciting a minor.
And as a result of that, he had to serve 18 months in prison,
and he was also placed under house arrest.
- After he serves his time, he now has
to register as a sex offender.
Think about that.
You would think that people in these very high places
would not want to have close relationships with said
person, particularly pretty close to the time
of when it happened.
And what these emails show is Prince Andrew
was one of the first people that Jeffrey Epstein reached out
to when he was released, and immediately is talking
about sending women to him.
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JUJU CHANG: In that email exchange,
Epstein told the Duke about a 26-year-old Russian woman,
and said that he gave that woman Andrew's email.
The Duke replied, that was quick.
How are you?
Good to be free?
The date on this email is August 12, 2010.
This is just days after Epstein had been
released from house arrest.
- In 2010, Epstein is a free man.
At this point, he's not really a household name.
His crimes are certainly not front
and center on the global stage.
But all of that is about to change,
thanks to Prince Andrew and a walk
in the park that became very notorious.
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When the story first appeared in The News of the World under
the headline "Prince & the Paedo,"
with a photograph of Andrew and Epstein walking in Central Park
together, it was a big story.
It was there, front and center.
A picture can tell a thousand words, right?
This is a nightmare for the palace.
- It really is absolutely baffling.
How could he still maintain that friendship?
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AMANDA ROBERTS: When the photographs came out,
it was just like this power back to her.
And she could say, like, I told you.
I was telling you the truth.
And the truth will always have a way to surface.
- It's difficult to learn about sexual abuse
with anybody in your family.
We lived just outside of Palm Beach.
It was in a little town called Loxahatchee, Florida.
That's how she got connected with Jeffrey Epstein.
And Ghislaine was-- my father was employed at Mar-a-Lago,
and then she became a spa attendant there,
and that's where, obviously, Ghislaine recruited her.
We always supported her.
I mean, especially my brother and I, and Amanda.
I mean, we've always supported her.
I remember her, you know, saying, Sky, you're going
to see some stuff coming out.
Like, just don't look at it.
She always said, I never want this evil to touch you.
The same evil that touched me in this world, and so many others.
VICTORIA MURPHY: Virginia Giuffre
was perhaps Epstein's most prominent accuser.
She says that she was recruited by Epstein and Maxwell,
and that she became Epstein's sex slave,
effectively, is what she says.
And she traveled with them, spent time with them,
and she has also made serious accusations
against Prince Andrew, accusing him of sexual assault
during this time.
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REPORTER: Virginia Roberts spoke to the BBC
about her allegations.
- Galen tells me that I have to do
for Andrew what I do for Jeffrey, and that made me sick.
It was disgusting.
He got up and he said thanks, and walked out.
And I sat there in bed, just horrified and ashamed,
and felt dirty.
- And of course, she has that now infamous photo
of herself at just 17 years old in
Ghislaine Maxwell's apartment.
It's of her, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew.
- Virginia Giuffre alleged that she
was trafficked to Prince Andrew and ended up having
sex with him three times.
JUJU CHANG: To be clear, Andrew has always
consistently maintained that he did nothing
wrong, that he never sexually abused
or assaulted Virginia Giuffre.
- He knows exactly what he's done,
and I hope he comes clean about it.
Thank you.
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VICTORIA MURPHY: In 2011, Andrew stepped back from his role
as UK Trade Envoy, due to the controversy surrounding
his links to Epstein.
It was a bad situation.
There was a lot of pressure on the palace
over this at the time.
AILSA ANDERSON: Every weekend, there
would be another bit of a story about the relationship
between Epstein and Andrew, and we were just playing catch-up.
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VICTORIA MURPHY: At one point in early 2011,
the pair were apparently emailing.
Epstein wrote to Andrew, "The press
is piling on me in the states.
Nothing to do.
Just want to make sure you're OK."
Prince Andrew responded, "I'm just as concerned for you!
Don't worry about me!
It would seem we are in this together and
will have to rise above it!"
BIDISHA MAMATA: Something that really
shocked me about the Epstein files is that it's not all men.
There are some high profile, powerful, well-connected women
who show extraordinarily poor judgment.
Andrew's ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, is one of them.
VICTORIA MURPHY: Fergie had a very seemingly quite independent
relationship with Epstein.
We know that he paid off 15,000 pounds of her personal debts.
There's an email from Sarah to Epstein from 2011,
where Fergie wrote, "You have always been a steadfast,
generous, and supreme friend to me and my family."
JUJU CHANG: What we have seen in the Epstein files is
that it appears that Sarah Ferguson visited the then
convicted sex offender with her daughters,
Eugenie and Beatrice, while he was still under house arrest.
- It's just such an extraordinary lapse in judgment.
Did she not think how it would look?
It looks like she's endorsing Epstein.
JUJU CHANG: At the time, Fergie issued a public apology
during an interview, saying that she regretted
her relationship with Epstein.
But what we now know from Epstein files
is that she continued emailing him for a while,
even after that.
VICTORIA MURPHY: I'm sure there was
a time when the palace probably thought that it couldn't
get any worse, but it did.
Over the next few years, this wasn't really
front and center all the time.
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But in 2019, that was the year when everything changed.
JUJU CHANG: In July, officials hit Epstein
with federal charges of sex trafficking
young women and underage girls, and conspiracy
to commit sex trafficking.
He's arrested and thrown into a New York City jail.
- It took a while to get there.
It took some time to put together the case.
VICTORIA MURPHY: There was a real sense
that these victims, his accusers,
that they were going to get some accountability--
some real accountability.
And then not long after he was arrested,
Epstein was found dead in jail.
REPORTER: Jeffrey Epstein has died, an apparent suicide--
VICTORIA MURPHY: There was still this desire for accountability.
And then in late 2019, Andrew decided
to do a no-holds-barred interview about his links
to Jeffrey Epstein.
SAM McALISTER: The pitch was, the country does not
think you are an innocent man.
So in a sense, this interview was a potential opportunity
to clear his name.
Of course, it turned out very differently.
- No.
No.
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LAMA HASAN: Did I watch the BBC Newsnight interview?
How can anyone forget it?
BIDISHA MAMATA: Tonight, for the first time,
Prince Andrew speaks out.
- It was pompous.
It was arrogant.
But worse than all of that, it was full of lies.
- If you imagine the Prince Andrew-- former Prince Andrew--
brand, in a sense, it's someone who had been a war hero,
a glamorous prince.
And now he is forgotten, at best,
and maybe a pariah, at worst.
This interview was a potential opportunity
to clear his name, so to speak.
- I wouldn't have advised it.
He chose to do it.
- Your Royal Highness, we've come
to Buckingham Palace in highly unusual circumstances.
- When he was asked about what had
happened with his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein--
- Why were you staying with a convicted sex offender?
- Right.
- He said that conversation had ceased, that the relationship
had ended.
- I went there with the sole purpose
of saying to him that because he had been convicted,
it was inappropriate for us to be seen together.
- We now know from these emails that that wasn't the case.
- Was that visit, December of 2010,
the only time you saw him after he was convicted?
Did you see him or speak to him again?
- No, no.
VICTORIA MURPHY: Actually, contact did continue.
He was emailing Epstein early in 2011 and throughout 2011.
And it's called into question all the things
that he said in that interview.
BIDISHA MAMATA: Andrew made some extraordinary claims
in the BBC interview.
Some of the claims were shifty.
Some of them were outright ludicrous.
- She described dancing with you.
- No.
- And you profusely sweating, and that she went
on to have a bath possibly--
- There's a slight problem with the sweating
because I have a peculiar medical condition,
which is that I don't sweat, or I didn't sweat at the time.
- He's sweating in the interview, for goodness sake.
- There's so many moments where I'm
just like, he's putting himself into a corner, and in a trap.
- He said repeatedly that he didn't remember
meeting Virginia Giuffre.
- She provided a photo of the two of you together.
- Yes.
- Your arm was around her waist.
- Yes.
INTERVIEWER: You've seen the photo.
- I've seen the photograph.
INTERVIEWER: How do you explain that?
- I can't because I don't--
I have no-- again, I have absolutely no memory
of that photograph ever being taken.
AMANDA ROBERTS: Virginia was laughing because of how
ridiculous it was.
And he was fumbling about his hand
on her waist and all these things.
She was just like, this is what they do.
- It was an absolute car crash.
I remember sitting at home watching it with my mouth open,
thinking, could this get any worse?
- I took, naughtily, a photo at the end of the interview.
And Emily looked aghast.
And he looked pleased.
- Frankly, Andrew was so thick that he probably watched
that interview back and thought it was fine
because these guys are so entitled,
they think they're going to get away with it every time.
- Rather than putting a line under a story,
drawing a line under a story, you've
actually inflamed it, inflamed it to the most
enormous proportions.
- I anticipated that this was going to be car
crash, train wreck television.
In fact, it was a train wreck running into a fuel tanker,
which burst into flames.
- It had dawned on everyone just how bad this was.
And also, I think, how offended people were by his attitude
to his links to Epstein generally.
He can't just carry on as normal.
WOMAN: This crisis is not winding down.
REPORTER: Prince Andrew taking a break from his royal duties.
REPORTER: Britain's Prince Andrew stripped
of his military titles.
REPORTER: Prince Andrew settling out
of court for an undisclosed amount
with his accuser, Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
He does not admit to assaulting or even meeting Giuffre.
REPORTER: Prince no more.
Prince Andrew officially stripped of his royal title,
and evicted from his home.
BIDISHA MAMATA: Why did it take them so
long to act and to condemn him?
It's all happened when public interest has become
so fierce and so negative that the royal family
were forced to act.
- He's had all his titles removed.
And he's now been moved by the king
from living in Windsor out to effectively the equivalent
of British Siberia.
- The recent, like, stripping of his title,
man, that day, I remember we were at work
and I couldn't even hold myself together physically.
I was like, Virginia, if you could see that even now,
like, what you have done, like, a king had to acknowledge
that something happened here.
SKY ROBERTS: It was tears of joy in the sense
of the accomplishment that the king had to acknowledge.
But let's be clear.
Like, we need to do more.
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SAM MCALISTER: I feel in my lifetime,
I haven't seen the monarchy under such pressure
than it is at the moment.
LAMA HASAN: How can you brush this off?
How can you come back from this?
How can the royal family survive?
SAM MCALISTER: Ultimately, the price he has paid
is public humiliation.
The price he has paid is withdrawal from public life.
And that punishment, I suppose, is
about as profound as you can get for a member
of the royal family.
But some people will say it does not go far enough.
DAN ABRAMS: As of right now, it seems
the only realistic criminal action against Prince Andrew
could be in England.
- Of all the emails, there seems to be
one in particular, which appears to show
Andrew forwarding government documents to Epstein.
And UK officials are looking into whether that
could be criminal.
MAN: That's serious.
The palace says it will fully cooperate
with any investigation.
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GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Stunning breaking news out
of Great Britain.
- Yes, former Prince Andrew arrested.
JAMES LONGMAN: This is an absolutely seismic moment.
Andrew had already lost his homes,
his reputation, and his titles.
Now, he is under arrest by British police on suspicion
of misconduct in public office.
REPORTER: Law enforcement launching
a coordinated operation on King Charles's private estate
in Sandringham, where Andrew had been sent into effective exile.
REPORTER: Let's be very clear.
Andrew, former prince of the realm, the king's own brother,
has been arrested.
I never thought I'd say those words.
Nobody did.
REPORTER: This is something that has not happened
in modern royal history at all.
REPORTER: Well, we've seen a picture of Prince Andrew
as he's been released.
And he looks a man in deep shock.
He's been released without charge,
but still under investigation.
REPORTER: This is really all that people
are going to be able to talk about when
it comes to the royal family.
This has engulfed them.
REPORTER: Once investigators start
going through what they find on British soil,
documents, emails, financial records,
who knows where it leads?
It's a Pandora's box.
JUJU CHANG: There could be more fallout in all of this.
They could discover more controversy in those files.
And don't forget, Ghislaine Maxwell
is still in prison playing cat and mouse with authorities.
She's even said she would talk, but only if the president
gives her clemency.
LEWIS GOODALL: The story around Andrew
has been around, in one form or another,
for the best part of 15 to 20 years.
Thoughts and prayers for victims are all very well and good.
But I think what those victims want
more than anything else, those survivors want
more than anything else, is accountability.
- Virginia Giuffre's impact has been huge here.
She's made these very high-profile accusations
against Prince Andrew.
She tragically died by suicide last year,
but the impact that she has had continues to be huge.
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TERESA HELM: While it might seem that we're
in the middle of the road of this, actually in many ways,
this is just beginning.
We're going to stand and we're going to fight.
- Our only agenda is accountability.
We need to pass Virginia's law to eliminate
the statute of limitations.
We need survivors to be taken seriously.
DAN ABRAMS: Virginia's law basically eliminate
the statute of limitations moving backwards
to sue for sexual abuse.
- Virginia's dream was to inspire and empower
survivors to come forward.
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I'm like, please, I hope you're with us,
and I hope you're seeing it through my eyes
just what you did, girl, because like, you're changing the world.
AMANDA ROBERTS: We are at that crossroads
where we decide which path we're going to take.
- Every single person that was involved
in this sex trafficking ring needs to be fully investigated.
Doesn't matter if it's former Prince Andrew or anybody
else that might be implicated.
I do commend the king.
You're going up against your own brother.
But the reality is, this can either be a huge stain,
or you can use this as a moment to actually affect real change.
AMANDA ROBERTS: Virginia's legacy will
be a warrior for survivors.
I think in so many ways, it already is.
And one of the things that she used to say
was, if I could endure all this pain,
and just come forward for one girl,
and it changes one girl's life, it's all worth it.
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