1 00:00:16,667 --> 00:00:17,669 OK. 2 00:00:19,472 --> 00:00:22,746 So this one is-- 3 00:00:22,846 --> 00:00:23,948 I think she's like seven there. 4 00:00:24,048 --> 00:00:24,983 She's seven. 5 00:00:25,083 --> 00:00:26,787 She's all dressed up for her-- 6 00:00:26,888 --> 00:00:28,089 Tinker Bell outfit. 7 00:00:28,189 --> 00:00:29,258 Tinker Bell outfit, which is-- 8 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:31,129 Which is very true to who she is. 9 00:00:31,229 --> 00:00:34,268 It's one of my favorite kid photos of her. 10 00:00:34,368 --> 00:00:39,045 Yeah, she's like aspiring to be a model. 11 00:00:39,145 --> 00:00:41,083 Like her beauty is, like, unmatched, you know, 12 00:00:41,183 --> 00:00:45,525 like, you can see the light in her eyes. 13 00:00:45,625 --> 00:00:48,764 This is, like, my favorite photo of you two. 14 00:00:53,239 --> 00:00:55,010 I am the crier in my family, and 15 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:57,147 I don't apologize for it anymore, because there 16 00:00:57,247 --> 00:00:58,784 are tears of strength now. 17 00:01:00,220 --> 00:01:01,824 And it's for her. 18 00:01:01,924 --> 00:01:03,259 My name is Sky Roberts. 19 00:01:03,359 --> 00:01:06,165 I am the younger brother of Virginia Roberts Giuffre. 20 00:01:06,265 --> 00:01:09,171 My name is Amanda Roberts, and I'm the sister-in-law 21 00:01:09,271 --> 00:01:11,175 of Virginia Roberts. 22 00:01:11,275 --> 00:01:13,180 When I hear Jeffrey Epstein's name, 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,583 it makes my skin crawl. 24 00:01:14,683 --> 00:01:18,256 He changed our family's lives forever. 25 00:01:18,356 --> 00:01:22,899 She suffered at the hands of him, and he sex trafficked her. 26 00:01:22,999 --> 00:01:24,402 We're at this tipping point. 27 00:01:24,503 --> 00:01:28,778 We are at that crossroads where we decide 28 00:01:28,878 --> 00:01:31,449 which path we're going to take. 29 00:01:31,550 --> 00:01:35,290 Virginia took down a prince, and that 30 00:01:35,390 --> 00:01:37,427 is one for the history books. 31 00:01:44,175 --> 00:01:46,980 Here is a man who was a prince, 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,985 the queen's favorite son. 33 00:01:49,085 --> 00:01:50,922 It felt like an open secret. 34 00:01:51,022 --> 00:01:52,925 Now a complete pariah. 35 00:01:53,026 --> 00:01:54,161 More controversy brewing 36 00:01:54,261 --> 00:01:56,199 today over Prince Andrew and his links 37 00:01:56,299 --> 00:01:58,370 to a convicted sex offender. 38 00:01:58,470 --> 00:02:00,441 When we talk about these 3 million documents, 39 00:02:00,542 --> 00:02:02,311 what more is still to come? 40 00:02:02,411 --> 00:02:03,714 The shocking royal arrest. 41 00:02:03,814 --> 00:02:06,319 The former Prince Andrew taken into custody. 42 00:02:06,419 --> 00:02:08,356 If you continue to read these emails, 43 00:02:08,456 --> 00:02:10,493 the biggest problem is that Andrew is a liar. 44 00:02:10,594 --> 00:02:13,667 Deep inside the palace walls, the royal press 45 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:15,471 team are panicking. 46 00:02:15,572 --> 00:02:18,243 We're living in what is an absolutely modern 47 00:02:18,343 --> 00:02:21,616 21st century royal scandal. 48 00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:32,305 Doesn't seem to be a day that goes by that there 49 00:02:32,405 --> 00:02:34,543 are not new revelations. 50 00:02:34,643 --> 00:02:36,279 I've been covering the royal family 51 00:02:36,379 --> 00:02:39,853 for 35, 36 years, and I personally 52 00:02:39,954 --> 00:02:43,460 think this is the biggest scandal they've had on my watch. 53 00:02:43,561 --> 00:02:47,167 And that includes the time of Charles and Diana. 54 00:02:47,267 --> 00:02:49,539 The story just grows and grows and grows. 55 00:02:53,146 --> 00:02:55,551 People have been demanding the full Epstein team 56 00:02:55,651 --> 00:02:56,787 file for years. 57 00:02:56,887 --> 00:02:59,392 Then, in late January, the US Department of Justice 58 00:02:59,492 --> 00:03:02,497 suddenly dropped another major batch of documents. 59 00:03:02,598 --> 00:03:06,406 3 million documents containing some of the deepest 60 00:03:06,507 --> 00:03:09,345 secrets of the Epstein files. 61 00:03:09,445 --> 00:03:11,249 Graphic accusations of young women 62 00:03:11,349 --> 00:03:13,053 and girls being trafficked to men 63 00:03:13,153 --> 00:03:15,524 in rich and powerful positions. 64 00:03:15,624 --> 00:03:18,831 A member of the royal family in photos crouching 65 00:03:18,931 --> 00:03:20,568 over young woman's body. 66 00:03:20,668 --> 00:03:23,574 The thing is, everyone knows his face. 67 00:03:25,210 --> 00:03:29,687 But also buried in here are emails between a sexual predator 68 00:03:29,787 --> 00:03:31,356 and a literal Prince. 69 00:03:31,456 --> 00:03:33,426 Epstein telling Andrew, 70 00:03:33,527 --> 00:03:37,468 I have a friend who I think you might enjoy having dinner with. 71 00:03:37,569 --> 00:03:39,974 The Duke responds, give her my contact 72 00:03:40,074 --> 00:03:41,777 details to get in touch. 73 00:03:41,877 --> 00:03:43,514 Descriptions of women 74 00:03:43,614 --> 00:03:45,818 Russian, clever, beautiful. 75 00:03:45,918 --> 00:03:48,156 Five other stunning redheads. 76 00:03:48,256 --> 00:03:50,695 We will all just have to play with ourselves. 77 00:03:50,795 --> 00:03:53,199 Andrew asking if someone has found me 78 00:03:53,299 --> 00:03:55,971 some new inappropriate friends. 79 00:04:03,554 --> 00:04:05,056 What I find extraordinary 80 00:04:05,156 --> 00:04:10,234 is not necessarily that Andrew had the arrogance to do this. 81 00:04:10,334 --> 00:04:13,006 It's that he was bringing a convicted sex 82 00:04:13,106 --> 00:04:17,347 offender into places, into the Queen's private homes, 83 00:04:17,447 --> 00:04:19,820 and nobody said anything. 84 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,592 This is such a fall from grace for Andrew. 85 00:04:22,692 --> 00:04:25,064 There is no coming back from this. 86 00:04:25,164 --> 00:04:27,434 This is incredibly serious. 87 00:04:31,443 --> 00:04:33,213 This young man who is destined 88 00:04:33,313 --> 00:04:35,552 to be familiar with the camera all his life, 89 00:04:35,652 --> 00:04:37,756 certainly isn't camera shy. 90 00:04:37,856 --> 00:04:40,594 The man formerly known as Prince Andrew. 91 00:04:40,694 --> 00:04:46,238 He is the Queen's second son and her third child. 92 00:04:46,339 --> 00:04:47,909 There was quite a big age difference 93 00:04:48,009 --> 00:04:51,850 between Charles and Anne and then Andrew and Edward. 94 00:04:51,950 --> 00:04:53,788 So the Queen had actually more settled 95 00:04:53,888 --> 00:04:56,025 into her, her role as monarch, so she 96 00:04:56,126 --> 00:04:59,231 could devote a bit more time to her younger two children. 97 00:04:59,331 --> 00:05:00,902 There was clearly a really, really 98 00:05:01,002 --> 00:05:04,776 special bond between the late Queen and her son. 99 00:05:10,286 --> 00:05:12,358 Just like actors and actresses, 100 00:05:12,458 --> 00:05:15,363 those who are young and beautiful or handsome 101 00:05:15,463 --> 00:05:18,336 catch the eye of the population. 102 00:05:18,436 --> 00:05:21,510 And Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, as Prince Andrew, 103 00:05:21,610 --> 00:05:23,079 was very dashing. 104 00:05:25,450 --> 00:05:27,120 He was in the Royal Navy. 105 00:05:27,221 --> 00:05:30,059 He was known as a Falklands War hero. 106 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,466 We all remember those iconic images of him getting off 107 00:05:33,568 --> 00:05:36,573 the ship, and he had that red rose in between his teeth, 108 00:05:36,673 --> 00:05:38,711 and the crowds were roaring their approval. 109 00:05:38,811 --> 00:05:42,417 He gave a new meaning to HRH, His Royal Heartthrob. 110 00:05:44,522 --> 00:05:46,560 Andrew has had a reputation in Britain 111 00:05:46,660 --> 00:05:49,332 which is not completely dissimilar to a lot 112 00:05:49,432 --> 00:05:50,902 of the spares, if you like. 113 00:05:51,002 --> 00:05:53,574 They're a little bit more wild, a little bit more carefree, 114 00:05:53,674 --> 00:05:55,277 that they love to party. 115 00:05:55,377 --> 00:05:57,247 They're almost slightly damaged. 116 00:05:57,348 --> 00:06:00,420 It's sort of party prince playboy lifestyle. 117 00:06:00,521 --> 00:06:01,623 He got the nickname 118 00:06:01,723 --> 00:06:04,028 in the British tabloids as Randy Andy 119 00:06:04,128 --> 00:06:08,002 because he had a series of very, very beautiful girlfriends. 120 00:06:08,102 --> 00:06:09,773 The American actress Koo Stark. 121 00:06:09,873 --> 00:06:12,010 Absolutely glamorous in the '80s. 122 00:06:15,517 --> 00:06:18,991 And then he was introduced to Sarah Ferguson 123 00:06:19,091 --> 00:06:22,097 by the late Princess of Wales, Princess Diana. 124 00:06:22,197 --> 00:06:23,433 You remember what he said? 125 00:06:23,534 --> 00:06:26,438 Absolutely, but I'm not telling you. 126 00:06:26,539 --> 00:06:28,042 She was a very boisterous and 127 00:06:28,142 --> 00:06:29,512 enthusiastic woman. 128 00:06:29,612 --> 00:06:32,484 She seemed to bring a freshness and excitement. 129 00:06:32,586 --> 00:06:33,954 She took his heart. 130 00:06:34,054 --> 00:06:35,023 I loved it today. 131 00:06:35,123 --> 00:06:36,292 I was very proud of you. 132 00:06:36,392 --> 00:06:38,898 And it was a modern day 133 00:06:38,998 --> 00:06:40,267 fairy tale for the two. 134 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:42,004 And the public loved it. 135 00:06:48,551 --> 00:06:49,920 - Why don't we kiss? - Why not? 136 00:06:50,020 --> 00:06:50,922 Why? 137 00:06:51,022 --> 00:06:51,924 Hurry up. 138 00:06:52,024 --> 00:06:52,925 They're filming quick. 139 00:06:53,025 --> 00:06:54,696 You're a monster. 140 00:06:54,796 --> 00:06:56,766 But what's funny and perhaps sad 141 00:06:56,866 --> 00:06:59,940 at the same time is that I think people remember 142 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,046 the scandals surrounding their marriage, 143 00:07:03,146 --> 00:07:05,283 rather than the marriage itself. 144 00:07:05,383 --> 00:07:06,486 The notorious pictures 145 00:07:06,587 --> 00:07:07,889 spread all over the papers. 146 00:07:07,989 --> 00:07:12,865 I mean, who could forget the toe sucking scandal? 147 00:07:12,966 --> 00:07:17,141 The Duchess of York is lying on a sun lounger, topless, 148 00:07:17,241 --> 00:07:22,184 with her toes being sucked by her financial advisor. 149 00:07:22,284 --> 00:07:25,357 The roles don't have their toes sucked by outsiders, 150 00:07:25,457 --> 00:07:27,027 but if they do, it's not expected 151 00:07:27,127 --> 00:07:30,534 that the proof will be published by the vulgar tabloid press. 152 00:07:30,634 --> 00:07:32,437 I didn't think that we'd ever get caught. 153 00:07:32,538 --> 00:07:34,509 I didn't think that it would be like that, 154 00:07:34,609 --> 00:07:36,580 or that the press would dig a trench for three days 155 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,915 and live in it. 156 00:07:38,015 --> 00:07:40,654 What was also worse is that her daughters 157 00:07:40,754 --> 00:07:43,159 were there Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice. 158 00:07:43,259 --> 00:07:46,866 Utterly humiliating for her and humiliating for Andrew as well. 159 00:07:48,938 --> 00:07:50,407 The Duke and the Duchess of York, 160 00:07:50,508 --> 00:07:52,745 better known as Prince Andrew and Fergie, 161 00:07:52,845 --> 00:07:54,850 are planning a formal separation. 162 00:07:54,950 --> 00:07:56,485 For someone who has really always 163 00:07:56,586 --> 00:07:59,324 been pining for love and acknowledgment and approval, 164 00:07:59,425 --> 00:08:01,797 what could be better than standing on a balcony in front 165 00:08:01,897 --> 00:08:04,135 of billions of people, shouting at you 166 00:08:04,235 --> 00:08:06,973 and screaming and clapping? 167 00:08:09,378 --> 00:08:12,752 I'm sure it went to my head and then sort of lost my way. 168 00:08:16,225 --> 00:08:20,133 If you look at his life and what he's achieved, 169 00:08:20,233 --> 00:08:21,402 it just kind of fizzled away. 170 00:08:21,503 --> 00:08:22,939 There was no role for him. 171 00:08:23,039 --> 00:08:24,742 He didn't know what he stood for. 172 00:08:24,842 --> 00:08:27,748 And we see that play out with all the spares. 173 00:08:27,848 --> 00:08:33,627 It is a recipe for sadness and forlornment and listlessness. 174 00:08:33,728 --> 00:08:34,830 Over the years, it's 175 00:08:34,930 --> 00:08:37,535 become very clear that there's been 176 00:08:37,636 --> 00:08:40,240 a lot of money spent on what seemed 177 00:08:40,340 --> 00:08:41,776 to be a very lavish lifestyle. 178 00:08:41,877 --> 00:08:43,747 I think there's always been a certain amount of mystery 179 00:08:43,847 --> 00:08:46,252 as to where the money has come from, how they 180 00:08:46,352 --> 00:08:47,855 have afforded certain things. 181 00:08:47,955 --> 00:08:49,793 Andrew wants to feel like he's 182 00:08:49,893 --> 00:08:52,532 a glamorous, sexy guy. 183 00:08:52,632 --> 00:08:54,068 How does he do it. 184 00:08:54,168 --> 00:08:55,905 You have to pay for it. 185 00:08:57,842 --> 00:08:59,979 Andrew was introduced to Epstein 186 00:09:00,079 --> 00:09:04,288 at some point in the '90s via Ghislaine Maxwell, 187 00:09:04,388 --> 00:09:05,724 who was his friend. 188 00:09:05,824 --> 00:09:08,230 I think they were enthralled by him. 189 00:09:08,330 --> 00:09:09,331 He was Machiavellian. 190 00:09:09,431 --> 00:09:10,635 He was a Rasputin. 191 00:09:10,735 --> 00:09:13,406 He was extraordinary and not in a good way. 192 00:09:13,507 --> 00:09:14,842 Epstein wanted access. 193 00:09:14,942 --> 00:09:18,517 He wanted to be in the innermost inner circle. 194 00:09:18,617 --> 00:09:21,523 He did that through mixing with aristocracy, 195 00:09:21,623 --> 00:09:22,925 mixing with royalty. 196 00:09:23,025 --> 00:09:26,432 He was weaseling his way into royal circles. 197 00:09:26,533 --> 00:09:28,804 Andrew wanted access to beautiful women. 198 00:09:28,904 --> 00:09:30,808 He wanted a party lifestyle. 199 00:09:30,908 --> 00:09:33,480 He wanted to get away from the stuffiness 200 00:09:33,581 --> 00:09:35,818 of English royal life. 201 00:09:39,391 --> 00:09:41,863 I think what's been so illuminating 202 00:09:41,963 --> 00:09:43,934 about these emails is that you really 203 00:09:44,034 --> 00:09:48,544 get a sense of this free flow of communication and information 204 00:09:48,644 --> 00:09:50,948 between Andrew and Epstein. 205 00:09:53,086 --> 00:09:55,691 Buckingham Palace is mentioned quite a lot in these emails. 206 00:09:55,791 --> 00:09:58,462 Andrew offers it as a location for a private dinner 207 00:09:58,563 --> 00:09:59,632 with Epstein. 208 00:09:59,733 --> 00:10:00,902 There's almost a sense that Andrew 209 00:10:01,002 --> 00:10:03,406 has this what is a publicly-funded official 210 00:10:03,507 --> 00:10:07,748 property at his disposal, and on a personal capacity. 211 00:10:08,884 --> 00:10:10,186 He emails the Duke, 212 00:10:10,286 --> 00:10:15,798 requesting private time together, lots of privacy. 213 00:10:15,898 --> 00:10:20,807 These emails really look as if Andrew and Epstein are dating. 214 00:10:22,344 --> 00:10:23,680 It's disgusting. 215 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:27,688 I don't know what sort of power or information that 216 00:10:27,788 --> 00:10:31,362 Jeffrey Epstein held over Sarah and Andrew, 217 00:10:31,462 --> 00:10:34,670 but clearly it was something-- enough something to keep 218 00:10:34,770 --> 00:10:36,004 that relationship going. 219 00:10:36,105 --> 00:10:37,642 What's really shocking is that it 220 00:10:37,742 --> 00:10:40,047 appears that the two men remained really 221 00:10:40,147 --> 00:10:43,687 close, even as Epstein was facing pretty 222 00:10:43,787 --> 00:10:46,258 serious criminal charges. 223 00:10:46,358 --> 00:10:47,929 Epstein was being investigated 224 00:10:48,029 --> 00:10:51,770 for sex offenses involving girls as young as 14, 225 00:10:51,870 --> 00:10:54,809 and in 2008, he reached what is now viewed 226 00:10:54,909 --> 00:10:56,913 as a very controversial plea deal 227 00:10:57,013 --> 00:11:00,587 to plead guilty to charges of soliciting a minor. 228 00:11:00,687 --> 00:11:04,228 And as a result of that, he had to serve 18 months in prison, 229 00:11:04,328 --> 00:11:07,233 and he was also placed under house arrest. 230 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:09,639 After he serves his time, he now has 231 00:11:09,739 --> 00:11:11,342 to register as a sex offender. 232 00:11:11,442 --> 00:11:12,845 Think about that. 233 00:11:12,945 --> 00:11:17,888 You would think that people in these very high places 234 00:11:17,988 --> 00:11:23,166 would not want to have close relationships with said 235 00:11:23,266 --> 00:11:26,773 person, particularly pretty close to the time 236 00:11:26,873 --> 00:11:28,108 of when it happened. 237 00:11:28,208 --> 00:11:31,048 And what these emails show is Prince Andrew 238 00:11:31,148 --> 00:11:34,021 was one of the first people that Jeffrey Epstein reached out 239 00:11:34,121 --> 00:11:37,394 to when he was released, and immediately is talking 240 00:11:37,494 --> 00:11:41,302 about sending women to him. 241 00:11:43,841 --> 00:11:45,276 In that email exchange, 242 00:11:45,377 --> 00:11:49,151 Epstein told the Duke about a 26-year-old Russian woman, 243 00:11:49,251 --> 00:11:52,925 and said that he gave that woman Andrew's email. 244 00:11:53,025 --> 00:11:55,230 The Duke replied, that was quick. 245 00:11:55,330 --> 00:11:56,231 How are you? 246 00:11:56,331 --> 00:11:57,702 Good to be free? 247 00:11:57,802 --> 00:12:01,142 The date on this email is August 12, 2010. 248 00:12:01,242 --> 00:12:03,914 This is just days after Epstein had been 249 00:12:04,014 --> 00:12:05,818 released from house arrest. 250 00:12:05,918 --> 00:12:08,222 In 2010, Epstein is a free man. 251 00:12:08,322 --> 00:12:11,261 At this point, he's not really a household name. 252 00:12:11,362 --> 00:12:14,067 His crimes are certainly not front 253 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:16,640 and center on the global stage. 254 00:12:16,740 --> 00:12:19,779 But all of that is about to change, 255 00:12:19,879 --> 00:12:23,854 thanks to Prince Andrew and a walk 256 00:12:23,954 --> 00:12:27,895 in the park that became very notorious. 257 00:12:33,139 --> 00:12:35,811 When the story first appeared in The News of the World under 258 00:12:35,912 --> 00:12:37,515 the headline "Prince & the Paedo," 259 00:12:37,615 --> 00:12:40,888 with a photograph of Andrew and Epstein walking in Central Park 260 00:12:40,988 --> 00:12:43,092 together, it was a big story. 261 00:12:43,192 --> 00:12:45,798 It was there, front and center. 262 00:12:45,898 --> 00:12:47,901 A picture can tell a thousand words, right? 263 00:12:48,002 --> 00:12:50,206 This is a nightmare for the palace. 264 00:12:50,307 --> 00:12:52,912 It really is absolutely baffling. 265 00:12:53,012 --> 00:12:56,185 How could he still maintain that friendship? 266 00:13:08,009 --> 00:13:09,846 When the photographs came out, 267 00:13:09,946 --> 00:13:13,319 it was just like this power back to her. 268 00:13:13,419 --> 00:13:16,492 And she could say, like, I told you. 269 00:13:16,593 --> 00:13:18,429 I was telling you the truth. 270 00:13:18,530 --> 00:13:22,237 And the truth will always have a way to surface. 271 00:13:22,337 --> 00:13:24,542 It's difficult to learn about sexual abuse 272 00:13:24,642 --> 00:13:26,411 with anybody in your family. 273 00:13:30,453 --> 00:13:32,156 We lived just outside of Palm Beach. 274 00:13:32,256 --> 00:13:34,528 It was in a little town called Loxahatchee, Florida. 275 00:13:34,628 --> 00:13:37,400 That's how she got connected with Jeffrey Epstein. 276 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:41,141 And Ghislaine was-- my father was employed at Mar-a-Lago, 277 00:13:41,241 --> 00:13:43,379 and then she became a spa attendant there, 278 00:13:43,479 --> 00:13:46,987 and that's where, obviously, Ghislaine recruited her. 279 00:13:47,087 --> 00:13:48,824 We always supported her. 280 00:13:48,924 --> 00:13:52,898 I mean, especially my brother and I, and Amanda. 281 00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:54,334 I mean, we've always supported her. 282 00:13:54,434 --> 00:13:57,842 I remember her, you know, saying, Sky, you're going 283 00:13:57,942 --> 00:13:59,478 to see some stuff coming out. 284 00:13:59,579 --> 00:14:02,316 Like, just don't look at it. 285 00:14:02,416 --> 00:14:05,189 She always said, I never want this evil to touch you. 286 00:14:05,289 --> 00:14:08,495 The same evil that touched me in this world, and so many others. 287 00:14:08,596 --> 00:14:09,899 Virginia Giuffre 288 00:14:09,999 --> 00:14:12,505 was perhaps Epstein's most prominent accuser. 289 00:14:12,605 --> 00:14:17,014 She says that she was recruited by Epstein and Maxwell, 290 00:14:17,114 --> 00:14:20,219 and that she became Epstein's sex slave, 291 00:14:20,319 --> 00:14:21,956 effectively, is what she says. 292 00:14:22,056 --> 00:14:24,394 And she traveled with them, spent time with them, 293 00:14:24,494 --> 00:14:26,967 and she has also made serious accusations 294 00:14:27,067 --> 00:14:29,839 against Prince Andrew, accusing him of sexual assault 295 00:14:29,939 --> 00:14:30,974 during this time. 296 00:14:33,212 --> 00:14:35,083 Virginia Roberts spoke to the BBC 297 00:14:35,183 --> 00:14:37,187 about her allegations. 298 00:14:37,287 --> 00:14:42,063 Galen tells me that I have to do 299 00:14:42,163 --> 00:14:49,210 for Andrew what I do for Jeffrey, and that made me sick. 300 00:14:50,013 --> 00:14:51,248 It was disgusting. 301 00:14:51,348 --> 00:14:54,989 He got up and he said thanks, and walked out. 302 00:14:55,089 --> 00:15:00,333 And I sat there in bed, just horrified and ashamed, 303 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:01,468 and felt dirty. 304 00:15:01,569 --> 00:15:03,640 And of course, she has that now infamous photo 305 00:15:03,740 --> 00:15:06,613 of herself at just 17 years old in 306 00:15:06,713 --> 00:15:08,116 Ghislaine Maxwell's apartment. 307 00:15:08,216 --> 00:15:12,625 It's of her, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew. 308 00:15:12,725 --> 00:15:14,461 Virginia Giuffre alleged that she 309 00:15:14,562 --> 00:15:18,770 was trafficked to Prince Andrew and ended up having 310 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:20,407 sex with him three times. 311 00:15:20,508 --> 00:15:22,210 To be clear, Andrew has always 312 00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:24,715 consistently maintained that he did nothing 313 00:15:24,816 --> 00:15:26,986 wrong, that he never sexually abused 314 00:15:27,086 --> 00:15:29,390 or assaulted Virginia Giuffre. 315 00:15:35,336 --> 00:15:36,873 He knows exactly what he's done, 316 00:15:36,974 --> 00:15:39,477 and I hope he comes clean about it. 317 00:15:39,578 --> 00:15:40,480 Thank you. 318 00:15:44,823 --> 00:15:47,628 In 2011, Andrew stepped back from his role 319 00:15:47,728 --> 00:15:50,901 as UK Trade Envoy, due to the controversy surrounding 320 00:15:51,001 --> 00:15:52,437 his links to Epstein. 321 00:15:52,538 --> 00:15:53,941 It was a bad situation. 322 00:15:54,041 --> 00:15:56,580 There was a lot of pressure on the palace 323 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,081 over this at the time. 324 00:15:58,182 --> 00:15:59,552 Every weekend, there 325 00:15:59,652 --> 00:16:01,756 would be another bit of a story about the relationship 326 00:16:01,856 --> 00:16:05,096 between Epstein and Andrew, and we were just playing catch-up. 327 00:16:07,033 --> 00:16:09,872 At one point in early 2011, 328 00:16:09,973 --> 00:16:11,876 the pair were apparently emailing. 329 00:16:11,976 --> 00:16:14,114 Epstein wrote to Andrew, "The press 330 00:16:14,214 --> 00:16:16,451 is piling on me in the states. 331 00:16:16,552 --> 00:16:17,387 Nothing to do. 332 00:16:17,487 --> 00:16:19,725 Just want to make sure you're OK." 333 00:16:19,826 --> 00:16:23,099 Prince Andrew responded, "I'm just as concerned for you! 334 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:24,502 Don't worry about me! 335 00:16:24,602 --> 00:16:26,606 It would seem we are in this together and 336 00:16:26,706 --> 00:16:28,342 will have to rise above it!" 337 00:16:28,442 --> 00:16:29,912 Something that really 338 00:16:30,012 --> 00:16:33,352 shocked me about the Epstein files is that it's not all men. 339 00:16:33,452 --> 00:16:37,561 There are some high profile, powerful, well-connected women 340 00:16:37,661 --> 00:16:40,767 who show extraordinarily poor judgment. 341 00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:44,875 Andrew's ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, is one of them. 342 00:16:44,975 --> 00:16:48,215 Fergie had a very seemingly quite independent 343 00:16:48,315 --> 00:16:49,819 relationship with Epstein. 344 00:16:49,919 --> 00:16:54,394 We know that he paid off 15,000 pounds of her personal debts. 345 00:16:54,494 --> 00:16:58,169 There's an email from Sarah to Epstein from 2011, 346 00:16:58,269 --> 00:17:01,041 where Fergie wrote, "You have always been a steadfast, 347 00:17:01,141 --> 00:17:04,213 generous, and supreme friend to me and my family." 348 00:17:04,313 --> 00:17:06,251 What we have seen in the Epstein files is 349 00:17:06,351 --> 00:17:09,391 that it appears that Sarah Ferguson visited the then 350 00:17:09,491 --> 00:17:12,296 convicted sex offender with her daughters, 351 00:17:12,396 --> 00:17:15,704 Eugenie and Beatrice, while he was still under house arrest. 352 00:17:15,804 --> 00:17:19,545 It's just such an extraordinary lapse in judgment. 353 00:17:19,645 --> 00:17:21,448 Did she not think how it would look? 354 00:17:21,549 --> 00:17:24,822 It looks like she's endorsing Epstein. 355 00:17:24,922 --> 00:17:27,460 At the time, Fergie issued a public apology 356 00:17:27,561 --> 00:17:30,433 during an interview, saying that she regretted 357 00:17:30,534 --> 00:17:32,303 her relationship with Epstein. 358 00:17:32,403 --> 00:17:34,474 But what we now know from Epstein files 359 00:17:34,575 --> 00:17:37,514 is that she continued emailing him for a while, 360 00:17:37,614 --> 00:17:38,449 even after that. 361 00:17:38,550 --> 00:17:40,119 I'm sure there was 362 00:17:40,219 --> 00:17:42,156 a time when the palace probably thought that it couldn't 363 00:17:42,256 --> 00:17:45,430 get any worse, but it did. 364 00:17:45,531 --> 00:17:48,335 Over the next few years, this wasn't really 365 00:17:48,435 --> 00:17:50,439 front and center all the time. 366 00:17:52,845 --> 00:17:57,187 But in 2019, that was the year when everything changed. 367 00:17:57,287 --> 00:18:00,259 In July, officials hit Epstein 368 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,764 with federal charges of sex trafficking 369 00:18:02,864 --> 00:18:05,937 young women and underage girls, and conspiracy 370 00:18:06,037 --> 00:18:07,808 to commit sex trafficking. 371 00:18:07,908 --> 00:18:11,749 He's arrested and thrown into a New York City jail. 372 00:18:11,849 --> 00:18:13,520 It took a while to get there. 373 00:18:13,620 --> 00:18:16,993 It took some time to put together the case. 374 00:18:17,093 --> 00:18:18,361 There was a real sense 375 00:18:18,462 --> 00:18:20,199 that these victims, his accusers, 376 00:18:20,299 --> 00:18:23,038 that they were going to get some accountability-- 377 00:18:23,138 --> 00:18:25,544 some real accountability. 378 00:18:25,644 --> 00:18:28,182 And then not long after he was arrested, 379 00:18:28,282 --> 00:18:31,021 Epstein was found dead in jail. 380 00:18:31,121 --> 00:18:34,360 Jeffrey Epstein has died, an apparent suicide-- 381 00:18:34,460 --> 00:18:38,135 There was still this desire for accountability. 382 00:18:38,236 --> 00:18:41,308 And then in late 2019, Andrew decided 383 00:18:41,408 --> 00:18:46,251 to do a no-holds-barred interview about his links 384 00:18:46,351 --> 00:18:48,690 to Jeffrey Epstein. 385 00:18:48,790 --> 00:18:51,495 SAM McALISTER: The pitch was, the country does not 386 00:18:51,596 --> 00:18:53,299 think you are an innocent man. 387 00:18:53,399 --> 00:18:56,740 So in a sense, this interview was a potential opportunity 388 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,309 to clear his name. 389 00:18:58,409 --> 00:19:00,079 Of course, it turned out very differently. 390 00:19:00,179 --> 00:19:01,949 No. 391 00:19:02,049 --> 00:19:03,251 No. 392 00:19:07,794 --> 00:19:11,234 Did I watch the BBC Newsnight interview? 393 00:19:11,334 --> 00:19:12,671 How can anyone forget it? 394 00:19:12,771 --> 00:19:14,474 Tonight, for the first time, 395 00:19:14,575 --> 00:19:16,713 Prince Andrew speaks out. 396 00:19:16,813 --> 00:19:17,881 It was pompous. 397 00:19:17,981 --> 00:19:19,284 It was arrogant. 398 00:19:19,384 --> 00:19:21,556 But worse than all of that, it was full of lies. 399 00:19:21,656 --> 00:19:24,227 If you imagine the Prince Andrew-- former Prince Andrew-- 400 00:19:24,327 --> 00:19:28,035 brand, in a sense, it's someone who had been a war hero, 401 00:19:28,135 --> 00:19:29,370 a glamorous prince. 402 00:19:29,471 --> 00:19:32,845 And now he is forgotten, at best, 403 00:19:32,945 --> 00:19:35,183 and maybe a pariah, at worst. 404 00:19:35,283 --> 00:19:37,220 This interview was a potential opportunity 405 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,825 to clear his name, so to speak. 406 00:19:39,925 --> 00:19:41,896 I wouldn't have advised it. 407 00:19:41,996 --> 00:19:43,933 He chose to do it. 408 00:19:44,033 --> 00:19:45,403 Your Royal Highness, we've come 409 00:19:45,504 --> 00:19:49,611 to Buckingham Palace in highly unusual circumstances. 410 00:19:49,712 --> 00:19:52,417 When he was asked about what had 411 00:19:52,518 --> 00:19:54,688 happened with his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein-- 412 00:19:54,788 --> 00:19:57,528 Why were you staying with a convicted sex offender? 413 00:19:57,628 --> 00:19:58,930 Right. 414 00:19:59,030 --> 00:20:01,234 He said that conversation had ceased, that the relationship 415 00:20:01,334 --> 00:20:02,403 had ended. 416 00:20:02,505 --> 00:20:04,241 I went there with the sole purpose 417 00:20:04,341 --> 00:20:08,616 of saying to him that because he had been convicted, 418 00:20:08,716 --> 00:20:11,856 it was inappropriate for us to be seen together. 419 00:20:11,957 --> 00:20:15,597 We now know from these emails that that wasn't the case. 420 00:20:15,697 --> 00:20:18,368 Was that visit, December of 2010, 421 00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:22,477 the only time you saw him after he was convicted? 422 00:20:22,578 --> 00:20:24,681 Did you see him or speak to him again? 423 00:20:24,781 --> 00:20:27,320 No, no. 424 00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:29,759 Actually, contact did continue. 425 00:20:29,859 --> 00:20:34,434 He was emailing Epstein early in 2011 and throughout 2011. 426 00:20:34,535 --> 00:20:36,906 And it's called into question all the things 427 00:20:37,006 --> 00:20:38,710 that he said in that interview. 428 00:20:38,810 --> 00:20:41,115 Andrew made some extraordinary claims 429 00:20:41,215 --> 00:20:42,918 in the BBC interview. 430 00:20:43,018 --> 00:20:44,688 Some of the claims were shifty. 431 00:20:44,788 --> 00:20:47,226 Some of them were outright ludicrous. 432 00:20:47,326 --> 00:20:48,764 She described dancing with you. 433 00:20:48,864 --> 00:20:49,965 No. 434 00:20:50,065 --> 00:20:53,139 And you profusely sweating, and that she went 435 00:20:53,239 --> 00:20:55,677 on to have a bath possibly-- 436 00:20:55,777 --> 00:20:59,551 There's a slight problem with the sweating 437 00:20:59,651 --> 00:21:05,597 because I have a peculiar medical condition, 438 00:21:05,697 --> 00:21:09,572 which is that I don't sweat, or I didn't sweat at the time. 439 00:21:09,672 --> 00:21:12,410 He's sweating in the interview, for goodness sake. 440 00:21:12,511 --> 00:21:14,013 There's so many moments where I'm 441 00:21:14,113 --> 00:21:18,556 just like, he's putting himself into a corner, and in a trap. 442 00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:20,560 He said repeatedly that he didn't remember 443 00:21:20,660 --> 00:21:22,029 meeting Virginia Giuffre. 444 00:21:22,129 --> 00:21:25,504 She provided a photo of the two of you together. 445 00:21:25,604 --> 00:21:26,338 Yes. 446 00:21:26,438 --> 00:21:28,175 Your arm was around her waist. 447 00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:29,343 Yes. 448 00:21:29,444 --> 00:21:30,346 You've seen the photo. 449 00:21:30,446 --> 00:21:31,582 I've seen the photograph. 450 00:21:31,682 --> 00:21:32,651 How do you explain that? 451 00:21:32,751 --> 00:21:35,991 I can't because I don't-- 452 00:21:36,091 --> 00:21:39,364 I have no-- again, I have absolutely no memory 453 00:21:39,464 --> 00:21:41,569 of that photograph ever being taken. 454 00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:44,074 Virginia was laughing because of how 455 00:21:44,174 --> 00:21:45,442 ridiculous it was. 456 00:21:45,544 --> 00:21:46,812 And he was fumbling about his hand 457 00:21:46,913 --> 00:21:48,817 on her waist and all these things. 458 00:21:48,917 --> 00:21:51,989 She was just like, this is what they do. 459 00:21:52,089 --> 00:21:53,993 It was an absolute car crash. 460 00:21:54,094 --> 00:21:58,068 I remember sitting at home watching it with my mouth open, 461 00:21:58,169 --> 00:22:00,707 thinking, could this get any worse? 462 00:22:00,808 --> 00:22:04,982 I took, naughtily, a photo at the end of the interview. 463 00:22:05,082 --> 00:22:07,120 And Emily looked aghast. 464 00:22:07,220 --> 00:22:09,391 And he looked pleased. 465 00:22:09,491 --> 00:22:12,330 Frankly, Andrew was so thick that he probably watched 466 00:22:12,430 --> 00:22:15,102 that interview back and thought it was fine 467 00:22:15,202 --> 00:22:17,541 because these guys are so entitled, 468 00:22:17,641 --> 00:22:20,814 they think they're going to get away with it every time. 469 00:22:20,914 --> 00:22:23,418 Rather than putting a line under a story, 470 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,755 drawing a line under a story, you've 471 00:22:24,855 --> 00:22:27,962 actually inflamed it, inflamed it to the most 472 00:22:28,062 --> 00:22:29,565 enormous proportions. 473 00:22:29,665 --> 00:22:32,370 I anticipated that this was going to be car 474 00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:34,508 crash, train wreck television. 475 00:22:34,608 --> 00:22:37,247 In fact, it was a train wreck running into a fuel tanker, 476 00:22:37,347 --> 00:22:38,783 which burst into flames. 477 00:22:38,883 --> 00:22:41,121 It had dawned on everyone just how bad this was. 478 00:22:41,221 --> 00:22:45,329 And also, I think, how offended people were by his attitude 479 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:47,333 to his links to Epstein generally. 480 00:22:47,434 --> 00:22:49,705 He can't just carry on as normal. 481 00:22:49,805 --> 00:22:51,909 This crisis is not winding down. 482 00:22:52,009 --> 00:22:54,314 Prince Andrew taking a break from his royal duties. 483 00:22:54,414 --> 00:22:55,617 Britain's Prince Andrew stripped 484 00:22:55,717 --> 00:22:57,152 of his military titles. 485 00:22:57,253 --> 00:22:58,589 Prince Andrew settling out 486 00:22:58,689 --> 00:23:00,425 of court for an undisclosed amount 487 00:23:00,526 --> 00:23:02,831 with his accuser, Virginia Roberts Giuffre. 488 00:23:02,931 --> 00:23:06,070 He does not admit to assaulting or even meeting Giuffre. 489 00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:07,507 Prince no more. 490 00:23:07,607 --> 00:23:10,212 Prince Andrew officially stripped of his royal title, 491 00:23:10,312 --> 00:23:11,916 and evicted from his home. 492 00:23:12,016 --> 00:23:13,352 Why did it take them so 493 00:23:13,452 --> 00:23:16,091 long to act and to condemn him? 494 00:23:16,191 --> 00:23:19,865 It's all happened when public interest has become 495 00:23:19,965 --> 00:23:23,071 so fierce and so negative that the royal family 496 00:23:23,171 --> 00:23:24,808 were forced to act. 497 00:23:24,908 --> 00:23:26,879 He's had all his titles removed. 498 00:23:26,979 --> 00:23:28,949 And he's now been moved by the king 499 00:23:29,050 --> 00:23:33,158 from living in Windsor out to effectively the equivalent 500 00:23:33,258 --> 00:23:34,562 of British Siberia. 501 00:23:34,662 --> 00:23:38,803 The recent, like, stripping of his title, 502 00:23:38,903 --> 00:23:44,146 man, that day, I remember we were at work 503 00:23:44,246 --> 00:23:47,486 and I couldn't even hold myself together physically. 504 00:23:47,587 --> 00:23:51,127 I was like, Virginia, if you could see that even now, 505 00:23:51,228 --> 00:23:56,471 like, what you have done, like, a king had to acknowledge 506 00:23:56,572 --> 00:23:59,044 that something happened here. 507 00:23:59,144 --> 00:24:00,747 It was tears of joy in the sense 508 00:24:00,847 --> 00:24:05,222 of the accomplishment that the king had to acknowledge. 509 00:24:05,322 --> 00:24:06,291 But let's be clear. 510 00:24:06,391 --> 00:24:07,861 Like, we need to do more. 511 00:24:13,707 --> 00:24:15,175 I feel in my lifetime, 512 00:24:15,275 --> 00:24:18,749 I haven't seen the monarchy under such pressure 513 00:24:18,849 --> 00:24:20,654 than it is at the moment. 514 00:24:20,754 --> 00:24:22,089 How can you brush this off? 515 00:24:22,189 --> 00:24:24,293 How can you come back from this? 516 00:24:24,393 --> 00:24:26,699 How can the royal family survive? 517 00:24:28,301 --> 00:24:30,541 Ultimately, the price he has paid 518 00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:32,644 is public humiliation. 519 00:24:32,744 --> 00:24:35,716 The price he has paid is withdrawal from public life. 520 00:24:35,817 --> 00:24:37,086 And that punishment, I suppose, is 521 00:24:37,186 --> 00:24:39,691 about as profound as you can get for a member 522 00:24:39,791 --> 00:24:41,061 of the royal family. 523 00:24:41,161 --> 00:24:43,733 But some people will say it does not go far enough. 524 00:24:43,833 --> 00:24:45,636 As of right now, it seems 525 00:24:45,737 --> 00:24:50,045 the only realistic criminal action against Prince Andrew 526 00:24:50,145 --> 00:24:51,381 could be in England. 527 00:24:51,481 --> 00:24:53,385 Of all the emails, there seems to be 528 00:24:53,485 --> 00:24:55,790 one in particular, which appears to show 529 00:24:55,890 --> 00:24:59,464 Andrew forwarding government documents to Epstein. 530 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:02,303 And UK officials are looking into whether that 531 00:25:02,403 --> 00:25:03,472 could be criminal. 532 00:25:03,573 --> 00:25:04,708 That's serious. 533 00:25:04,808 --> 00:25:06,411 The palace says it will fully cooperate 534 00:25:06,512 --> 00:25:09,150 with any investigation. 535 00:25:10,653 --> 00:25:12,123 Stunning breaking news out 536 00:25:12,223 --> 00:25:13,291 of Great Britain. 537 00:25:13,392 --> 00:25:15,296 Yes, former Prince Andrew arrested. 538 00:25:15,396 --> 00:25:17,701 This is an absolutely seismic moment. 539 00:25:17,801 --> 00:25:19,872 Andrew had already lost his homes, 540 00:25:19,972 --> 00:25:22,043 his reputation, and his titles. 541 00:25:22,143 --> 00:25:24,915 Now, he is under arrest by British police on suspicion 542 00:25:25,015 --> 00:25:27,019 of misconduct in public office. 543 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,690 Law enforcement launching 544 00:25:28,790 --> 00:25:30,960 a coordinated operation on King Charles's private estate 545 00:25:31,060 --> 00:25:35,436 in Sandringham, where Andrew had been sent into effective exile. 546 00:25:35,537 --> 00:25:36,973 Let's be very clear. 547 00:25:37,073 --> 00:25:40,947 Andrew, former prince of the realm, the king's own brother, 548 00:25:41,047 --> 00:25:41,915 has been arrested. 549 00:25:42,016 --> 00:25:43,520 I never thought I'd say those words. 550 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:44,955 Nobody did. 551 00:25:45,055 --> 00:25:47,226 This is something that has not happened 552 00:25:47,326 --> 00:25:49,164 in modern royal history at all. 553 00:25:49,264 --> 00:25:51,435 Well, we've seen a picture of Prince Andrew 554 00:25:51,536 --> 00:25:52,604 as he's been released. 555 00:25:52,704 --> 00:25:54,708 And he looks a man in deep shock. 556 00:25:54,808 --> 00:25:56,579 He's been released without charge, 557 00:25:56,679 --> 00:25:58,182 but still under investigation. 558 00:25:58,282 --> 00:26:00,152 This is really all that people 559 00:26:00,252 --> 00:26:02,456 are going to be able to talk about when 560 00:26:02,557 --> 00:26:04,762 it comes to the royal family. 561 00:26:04,862 --> 00:26:06,532 This has engulfed them. 562 00:26:06,633 --> 00:26:07,867 Once investigators start 563 00:26:07,967 --> 00:26:09,838 going through what they find on British soil, 564 00:26:09,938 --> 00:26:12,376 documents, emails, financial records, 565 00:26:12,476 --> 00:26:13,613 who knows where it leads? 566 00:26:13,713 --> 00:26:15,315 It's a Pandora's box. 567 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,056 There could be more fallout in all of this. 568 00:26:19,156 --> 00:26:22,096 They could discover more controversy in those files. 569 00:26:22,196 --> 00:26:23,866 And don't forget, Ghislaine Maxwell 570 00:26:23,966 --> 00:26:26,872 is still in prison playing cat and mouse with authorities. 571 00:26:26,973 --> 00:26:30,412 She's even said she would talk, but only if the president 572 00:26:30,513 --> 00:26:32,083 gives her clemency. 573 00:26:32,183 --> 00:26:35,055 The story around Andrew 574 00:26:35,155 --> 00:26:37,894 has been around, in one form or another, 575 00:26:37,994 --> 00:26:40,299 for the best part of 15 to 20 years. 576 00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:43,706 Thoughts and prayers for victims are all very well and good. 577 00:26:43,806 --> 00:26:45,142 But I think what those victims want 578 00:26:45,242 --> 00:26:47,013 more than anything else, those survivors want 579 00:26:47,113 --> 00:26:48,917 more than anything else, is accountability. 580 00:26:49,017 --> 00:26:51,287 Virginia Giuffre's impact has been huge here. 581 00:26:51,387 --> 00:26:53,727 She's made these very high-profile accusations 582 00:26:53,827 --> 00:26:55,029 against Prince Andrew. 583 00:26:55,129 --> 00:26:58,034 She tragically died by suicide last year, 584 00:26:58,134 --> 00:27:01,875 but the impact that she has had continues to be huge. 585 00:27:09,089 --> 00:27:11,093 While it might seem that we're 586 00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:13,633 in the middle of the road of this, actually in many ways, 587 00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:15,002 this is just beginning. 588 00:27:15,102 --> 00:27:17,139 We're going to stand and we're going to fight. 589 00:27:17,239 --> 00:27:19,645 Our only agenda is accountability. 590 00:27:19,745 --> 00:27:21,716 We need to pass Virginia's law to eliminate 591 00:27:21,816 --> 00:27:23,485 the statute of limitations. 592 00:27:23,586 --> 00:27:25,957 We need survivors to be taken seriously. 593 00:27:26,057 --> 00:27:28,930 Virginia's law basically eliminate 594 00:27:29,030 --> 00:27:33,205 the statute of limitations moving backwards 595 00:27:33,305 --> 00:27:36,144 to sue for sexual abuse. 596 00:27:36,244 --> 00:27:38,616 Virginia's dream was to inspire and empower 597 00:27:38,716 --> 00:27:40,185 survivors to come forward. 598 00:27:41,354 --> 00:27:43,158 I'm like, please, I hope you're with us, 599 00:27:43,258 --> 00:27:44,961 and I hope you're seeing it through my eyes 600 00:27:45,061 --> 00:27:49,805 just what you did, girl, because like, you're changing the world. 601 00:27:49,905 --> 00:27:52,777 We are at that crossroads 602 00:27:52,877 --> 00:27:56,953 where we decide which path we're going to take. 603 00:27:57,053 --> 00:27:58,890 Every single person that was involved 604 00:27:58,990 --> 00:28:03,231 in this sex trafficking ring needs to be fully investigated. 605 00:28:03,331 --> 00:28:06,371 Doesn't matter if it's former Prince Andrew or anybody 606 00:28:06,471 --> 00:28:08,576 else that might be implicated. 607 00:28:08,676 --> 00:28:09,879 I do commend the king. 608 00:28:09,979 --> 00:28:12,082 You're going up against your own brother. 609 00:28:12,182 --> 00:28:14,955 But the reality is, this can either be a huge stain, 610 00:28:15,055 --> 00:28:19,163 or you can use this as a moment to actually affect real change. 611 00:28:19,263 --> 00:28:22,905 Virginia's legacy will 612 00:28:23,005 --> 00:28:26,177 be a warrior for survivors. 613 00:28:26,277 --> 00:28:29,117 I think in so many ways, it already is. 614 00:28:29,217 --> 00:28:31,154 And one of the things that she used to say 615 00:28:31,254 --> 00:28:36,665 was, if I could endure all this pain, 616 00:28:36,765 --> 00:28:40,339 and just come forward for one girl, 617 00:28:40,439 --> 00:28:46,150 and it changes one girl's life, it's all worth it.