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PIPER ROCKELLE: I
have it down to,
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like-- it-- like, it only
takes me 30 minutes top,
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hair and makeup.
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I felt like when I first
dropped my OnlyFans,
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I was thinking a little bit
too much like, oh my god,
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I need to have this kind of
photo and this kind of photo.
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But I came to the realization
that I've never really explored
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just being completely natural
and just being, like, you
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know, this is me, chilling.
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[laughs] You want
me to be honest?
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Probably just like a foot pic.
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Like, it'll be, like,
$3K just to see a foot.
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KELLEY CARTER: Piper Rockelle,
for months, literally counted
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down to her OnlyFans debut.
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January 1, the life is going
to change just a tad bit.
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I'm going to get
a little bit of--
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January 1, Piper is going
to be the same human, just
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with extra link in her bio.
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KAT TENBARGE: Piper doing
her own countdown clock
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is rewriting the narrative.
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She's the one counting down
to her own coming of age.
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Hey, it is Piper Rockelle,
and welcome to my vlog.
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KELLEY CARTER: A lot of
people knew her as a kid,
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but now we're seeing
her as an OnlyFans model
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who is revealing a lot more.
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FORTESA LATIFI: Piper
Rockelle was the biggest
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kid influencer of the 2010s.
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WOMAN: She grew up as a
child in this limelight,
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and she didn't know how her
fans were going to take it.
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She didn't want them to
think any less of her.
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Your whole
[bleep] hanging out.
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I did not raise you
to do this shit!
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KELLEY CARTER: Her
move from child
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star to a sex symbol OnlyFans
model was a shocking success.
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FORTESA LATIFI: Piper claims
that she made $2.9 million
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in her first day.
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That is an astronomical
amount of money,
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even within OnlyFans world.
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A lot of OnlyFans
creators refer
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to themselves as sex workers.
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I don't really-- if they want
to call me that, they go ahead.
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I don't-- I don't care.
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I'm proud of what I'm doing
right now, believe it or not.
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JUJU CHANG: So why did
Piper turn to OnlyFans?
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It may have something to do with
a massive scandal and lawsuit.
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It involves her
mother and allegations
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of abuse and exploitation.
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FORTESA LATIFI: Until
the lawsuit came out,
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Piper was really the golden
girl of kid influencers.
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And so for these
claims to come out
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against her mother and her
mother's boyfriend really
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changed everything.
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When you say you lost
everything, what did you lose?
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I lost who I was.
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I lost my whole entire business,
my whole entire future.
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If all of that
hadn't happened,
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do you think you would
be doing OnlyFans?
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Um.
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[ding]
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[upbeat music]
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It's a little bit
looser than I expected.
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Oh, yeah.
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Hi.
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It's me, Piper.
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I just want to say, thank
you so much for all your love
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and support.
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And since you're
spoiling me so much,
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it's time for me to spoil you.
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So I hope that you enjoy
these photos for today.
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Bye.
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Are we good?
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CREW: [muffled speech]
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What made you think
about going on OnlyFans?
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Once I did turn
18, I was like, where
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do I want my life to go?
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What if I become an
actor or a singer?
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But then I kind of
thought about it.
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I was like, I don't
think that that's for me.
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I'm never going to
have a good reputation.
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I'm never going to
have a clean slate.
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I don't really
want a clean slate.
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You said that you
thrive off the hate.
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PIPER ROCKELLE: I do.
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I wouldn't be here if I didn't
get hated on for so long,
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or if I wasn't--
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I'm like this crazy,
talked about child,
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I wouldn't be here still.
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JUJU CHANG: What was your
first day's earnings?
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PIPER ROCKELLE: I made a million
in an hour, which was so crazy.
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And then at the end of the
night, it was almost, like, 3,
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almost.
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In one day?
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It was crazy.
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Obviously, there was a
side of me that was like,
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OK, this could
happen, but I didn't
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expect it to actually happen,
and it was beyond crazy.
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There are some
people who think
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you might be inspiring young
people to do this kind of, I
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don't know, adult content.
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What do you say to that?
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That, like, some people
see you as a role model?
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I mean, sure.
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If you guys want to
look up to me, you can.
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But I'm very realistic
with everybody,
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and I let them know
that you're not
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going to make this much
money, unfortunately,
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unless you are willing
to commit and actually
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put your life at risk.
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What do you mean
putting your life at risk?
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You're going to lose friends.
You're going to lose people.
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You might lose the
people around you.
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You might lose your family.
You might lose a lot of things.
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And it's not all
glamorous and amazing.
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[music playing]
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And here's my messages where
I can, like, chat with people.
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So this is, like,
for my VIP members.
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Like, they get a lot of stuff.
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I do, like, customs.
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And then they get,
like, VIP access
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and just personalized
video messages,
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which are so much fun to do.
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It's got pretty good
likes, pretty good likes.
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It does seem that a lot of the
people who are consuming content
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on OnlyFans, especially of
really young girls like Piper,
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who is only 18, are older men.
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KAT TENBARGE: It's
always just been
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adult men who are
sort of leering
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after these barely legal women.
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As a culture, we fetishize
youth to such an extreme degree.
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And what we're really
fetishizing there is innocence.
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Does it trouble you that a
lot of your fans are older men?
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I mean, it's not--
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I don't really think
about it that much.
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I don't think
about it like that.
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Do you think of it as
embarrassing yourself?
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I don't think it's
embarrassing myself, but it is--
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like, when people ask me
what I do, I don't say,
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like, oh, I'm an OF model.
You know what I mean?
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I don't say that.
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I just say, I'm an entertainer,
you know what I mean?
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[upbeat music]
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(SINGING) It's
really out of date
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FORTESA LATIFI: Piper was born
to her mother, Tiffany Smith,
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in 2007 in Georgia.
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And by the time she
was three years old,
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she was competing in pageants.
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I remember just watching
Toddlers & Tiaras on my TV
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on my bed, and I was like,
I want to do pageants.
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My mom's like, OK, let's do it.
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I am Piper's grandma.
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She calls me Mimi, and I'm a
very important person to her.
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DESTINEE SMITH: So cute.
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Look at this one here.
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Look at that face.
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It makes me want to cry.
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Always just
knowing how to pose.
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Gorgeous.
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DESTINEE SMITH: Tell me she
wasn't born to be a star.
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Look at her.
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DONNA HEALY SMITH: Look at her.
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It got to a point
where she won so many
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pageants that they
wouldn't allow her
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in the little local pageants.
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Because when people
would call up and say,
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is Piper going to
be in the pageant?
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Because if she is, we're not
doing it, because she would win
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every one of them all the time.
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I am DeeDee, and I'm Piper's
aunt, number one aunt actually.
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Her father was uninvolved.
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He freaked out when he found
out Tiffany was pregnant,
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and, you know, he went
off and did his own thing.
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Tiffany was really just
trying to make things work,
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and it was pretty quickly
that she saw that Piper
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had some kind of star power.
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There's something
about her, and you
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can't put your finger on it.
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But people are drawn to her.
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FORTESA LATIFI: Her mother
started posting videos of her
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on YouTube.
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And by the time she
was eight years old,
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she was getting millions
of views on YouTube videos.
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Tiffany was the
quintessential stage mom.
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She's a momager.
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KAT TENBARGE: But
what Tiffany does
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is actually take that stage
parent role a step further.
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Because she's not
just on the sidelines,
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she's also the one
behind the camera
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directly calling the shots.
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FORTESA LATIFI: I think
Piper and Tiffany were
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really surfing that YouTube wave
that was happening at the time.
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People were starting
to realize just how
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much money was in social media.
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There was-- was it
a slime video, right?
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Well, like my
first ever video?
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Your first, big, viral video.
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Hey, guys.
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It's Piper Rockelle.
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Today, we are going to
be making fluffy slime.
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KAT TENBARGE: Slime was,
like, having a moment.
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And so when Piper started
making content like that,
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she was able to suddenly
start racking up views
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and followers really quickly.
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Tiffany has the creative
mind, and Piper has the,
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she just wants to do it.
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Today we're going
to be playing Hedbanz.
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We are going to be
filling this huge bathtub.
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We're filling it
with ramen noodles.
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Hey, guys.
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Welcome to my night routine.
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Today is the 4th of July.
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FORTESA LATIFI: Young kids these
days aspire to be influencers.
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And so Piper was this
girl next door who had
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achieved their wildest dreams.
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Anywhere we went,
people would approach her.
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Can I take a picture with you?
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Can I touch you?
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We couldn't even go to Walmart
without people recognizing her.
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Thank you guys so
much for watching.
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Make sure you like, subscribe,
turn on those notifications.
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Los Angeles, I'm coming for you.
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So around 2017, Piper began
this band of other child
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influencers to join her.
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So it was called Piper
Rockelle and The Squad,
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or The Squad for short.
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I'm not doing this alone.
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I'm inviting my whole
entire squad over today.
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Come in, girls.
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[cheering]
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FORTESA LATIFI: In one of
my interviews with her,
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she told me that that
pressure was kind of intense.
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She really was like
the sun of The Squad,
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and everyone else just
like, revolved around her.
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A few years after The
Squad was created,
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the kids are getting
a little older,
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and you start seeing this
proliferation of, like, crush
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content where the
kids are revealing who
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they have a crush on, or they're
even, like, kissing each other.
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Piper's mom was the boss.
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She was the boss of Piper.
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And when it came
to the Piper Squad,
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she was also the boss and
really, like, the caretaker
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of all these other kids.
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You're going to
be getting kissed.
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This has been going
on for too long.
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Who do you actually like?
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Me or Lev?
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Those crush videos, some
people thought inappropriate.
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Sure.
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You know, people can
think that for sure.
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I was cool with everything.
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I think that we just made
a lot of amazing content,
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and I would never change the
way that I went about, like,
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the whole YouTube thing.
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Because I think it was just
one of the greatest things
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that ever happened to me.
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KAT TENBARGE: Piper was
kind of reaching like
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a stratospheric level of fame.
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There were reports
that you were
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earning somewhere
in the $400,000
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to $500,000 a month range.
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You were paying
for the mortgage.
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You were paying for most
of the household expenses.
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How old were you when
you realized you were
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the breadwinner in the family?
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I don't know.
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I never really thought
of it that way, kind of.
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I just felt like it
was a team effort.
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I didn't just think
that this was my thing,
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and all this money is mine.
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On its face, the
idea sounds crazy.
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Like, hey, I'm just
going to drop you off
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at some random woman's house.
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You're going to make
YouTube videos all day.
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These parents and
kids understood
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how much potential there was
in being in the Piper Squad.
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What was your schooling like?
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I was home schooled
my whole entire life.
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Everyone was kind of
worried around me,
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that I wasn't going to get
the proper socialization,
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not going to public school.
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But I had lots of friends.
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There are pretty carefully
crafted child labor
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laws that protect child actors.
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They do have to have tutors.
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They can't be overworked.
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Legislators haven't been
able to craft laws to protect
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child content creators.
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It's just not there yet.
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It's there in about five states.
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And even if you look at those
laws, they don't go far enough.
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Piper was homeschooled, and
she says that she was protected.
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Her money was protected.
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And so she didn't endure
some of the things
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that I think people are fearful
that-- that child stars endure.
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When I think of the
child actors of my youth,
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I think of Hilary Duff.
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But really, I think of Lizzie
McGuire, right, the role
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that she played.
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Whereas when you think of
Piper Rockelle or other child
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influencers, you think of them.
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And there's just no delineation
between their actual lives
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and their online lives.
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Some of your critics
say, well, you know,
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Piper never got to be a kid,
that your childhood was all work
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or maybe even worse, a facade.
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I had one of the
best childhoods.
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Like, I wouldn't change it.
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I had to become the
person that I am today.
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I'm the luckiest
person alive, honestly.
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FORTESA LATIFI: In 2021, you
saw The Squad really changing.
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So lots of members
were leaving, and there
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was kind of this mystery
around, like, why
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would anyone leave The Squad?
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KAT TENBARGE: You started
to see things really crumble
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on an interpersonal level
between parents and kids
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in The Squad and Tiffany,
Piper, and Hunter.
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And you saw this divide emerge
where a lot of parents and kids
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who had previously been
a part of the Piper Squad
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were like, hold on a second.
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I'm now seeing how
inappropriate and inequitable
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some of this behavior was.
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The world had seen The Squad
on YouTube, online for years.
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But little did anyone
know that there was
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much more beneath the surface.
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FORTESA LATIFI: In 2022, 11
former members of the squad
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filed a lawsuit,
and they alleged
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emotional, verbal, physical,
and at times, sexual abuse.
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They sought $22
million in damages.
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And the claims in the lawsuit
are incredibly harrowing.
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When the lawsuit
actually came out,
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it absolutely made
national headlines.
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This young lady has
amassed more than 10
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million followers
on YouTube, shooting
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silly videos with her friends.
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Now Lisa Guerrero reports some
of those now former friends
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and their parents are suing.
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The Squad lawsuit
was against Tiffany,
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Piper Raquel Inc,
which is Piper's
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company, and then Hunter Hill.
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All right, Pablo, we're
looking for Picasso.
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KAT TENBARGE: Hunter Hill,
he comes into The Piper
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squad as, like, a videographer.
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And on camera, he is
identified as Piper's brother.
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Behind the scenes,
he begins to be
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in an actual romantic sexual
relationship with Tiffany.
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So that's really confusing
on multiple fronts.
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MAN: We do have some business
that we have to do now,
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and this is-- this is emotional,
and this is obviously difficult.
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When the lawsuit happened,
we were very angry.
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And I, you know,
nervous breakdown.
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We didn't know what
was going to happen.
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It was awful to watch what
it was doing to Tiffany,
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what it was doing to Piper.
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When I was, like, 14
through 16, even 17, you know,
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that whole entire span of
my life was just complete--
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like, the lowest, ever.
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If I ever came face to
face with any of them,
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I would completely just fall
apart, because you know,
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they knew, like, the-- the--
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the strain that they were
probably putting on my life.
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And most of them just
gained, you know, from that.
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I lost everything, so it's OK.
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I'm just happy that
they're all well, you know?
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And I'm well too,
so we're all good.
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And I don't wish
them any bad things.
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[bubbling]
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FORTESA LATIFI: In 2025,
Netflix dropped this documentary
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that was called Bad Influence.
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It was number one on
the Netflix charts
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for what seemed like
forever, and it was really
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an inside look at this
lawsuit and these allegations
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against Tiffany Smith and
the world of kid influencing.
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Some of the allegations
there were unlawful touching,
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emotional abuse, sexual abuse.
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It ran the gamut.
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Some of the things that
really stood out to me
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were allegations
that Tiffany had
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been abusive to the children,
specifically allegations
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around sexual misconduct.
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SUNNY HOSTIN: On page 14 of
the complaint, it states, "Ms.
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Smith also inappropriately
touched plaintiff Clair E,
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rubbing her exposed thighs,
constantly spanking and/or
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slapping her buttocks,
sticking her finger/poking
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her anus over her clothing."
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We actually hear Claire describe
on the Netflix docuseries
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what she says she experienced.
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She was on top of us on
her hands and knees, like,
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pinning us down, saying that she
was a mountain goat, and then
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she was like-- she would howl.
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Did you watch
the Netflix series?
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- No.
- No?
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Mm-mm.
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That's interesting, because
there's-- you know, the lawsuit
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had serious allegations in it.
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Absolutely.
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All of these
allegations that were
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lodged mostly against your mom,
are you saying they're untrue?
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No.
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00:16:43,105 --> 00:16:44,775
I'm never going to
discredit anybody.
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I'm just going to say, I have
never witnessed anything,
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and I have never
went through that.
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And I was always with my mom.
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And I love my mom, and so I'm
never going to speak for them.
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And I wish that they could
have been kind enough
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to never speak for me.
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Former Squad members
in the documentary
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said she's a victim
of her mother,
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and that they're there for
her if she needs to get out.
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She doesn't even
realize it right now.
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CLAIRE: I know.
- She thinks that's normal.
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So, like--
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CLAIRE: And that's so sad.
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Her mom is in her
ear all the time.
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And if she's watching this
right now, hey, it's not normal.
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They said they think
that you're a victim,
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and you don't realize it.
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I'm glad that they think that.
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I'm really glad.
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I'm-- I'm just so happy
they have freedom of speech.
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But obviously, you
don't see it that way?
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Nope.
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In the documentary, if
they didn't use Piper's name,
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if they just used
Tiffany's name,
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would anybody have
tuned in to watch it?
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KAT TENBARGE: People were
now associating Piper herself
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with all of these really heinous
allegations against Tiffany,
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and nobody wanted to watch Piper
Rockelle content because they
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now associated it
with being a really
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abusive and toxic environment.
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They weren't suing
you, though, obviously.
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It was my company.
It was me.
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Who has $22 million
in my family?
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They're suing me.
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They-- they wanted to
take the Rockelles down.
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Cool, understandable.
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Totally cool.
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And you did.
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You did a good job.
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So--
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JUJU CHANG: And yet,
there's no estrangement
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between you and your mom.
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You guys are living together.
PIPER ROCKELLE: No.
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I think-- you know, I
think a lot of people
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think that this whole entire
thing would definitely bring us
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farther apart, but this
whole entire thing has
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just made me closer to her, so.
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JUJU CHANG: Their bond has been
strong from the early days.
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We've seen a lot of
it captured on camera.
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I wanted to show you
this clip on my phone.
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You did Dance Twins.
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TIFFANY SMITH: How
are you feeling?
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Good.
How are you feeling?
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You got cat hair all over you.
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Well, we got 16 cats, so.
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15.
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00:18:40,473 --> 00:18:41,074
Yeah.
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Hi.
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I'm Tiffany, and this is my
beautiful daughter, Piper.
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She's the fun mom.
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Like, every kid wants
to hang out with her.
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Pow, wow.
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00:18:51,563 --> 00:18:53,132
[laughs]
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She's my best friend.
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She refers to you
as her best friend.
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Yeah.
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You were, like, a child.
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Yeah.
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00:19:00,412 --> 00:19:03,118
I didn't grow up with
a dad or anything, so.
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I'm sorry.
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00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:05,524
Are you OK?
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[slow music]
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It just, like-- it sucks that
I have to sit here and, like,
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talk about this.
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Like, it's just, like--
it's really agitating.
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Because, like, I just
think about my life,
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like, such a good thing.
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And, like, my--
It's just always,
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like-- it's sad to think about
when you're first starting,
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and you don't know how your
life's going to play out.
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And, like, you know, it just
would have been-- if I could
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have told her, like, how the
world would think of her now
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and, like, how they would think
of her family, it would just--
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but it would make her sad.
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00:19:36,952 --> 00:19:39,859
And I feel like it's my
fault a lot, because--
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Why is it your fault?
487
00:19:41,228 --> 00:19:42,463
Well, because if I
never got into, like,
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the entertainment space,
I think that, you know,
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my mother and my family would
have a lot more respect.
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But because I wanted
to do this, you know,
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it dragged everyone
down with me.
492
00:19:53,319 --> 00:19:56,057
And it just-- it-- it just--
493
00:19:56,157 --> 00:19:57,193
I don't know.
494
00:19:57,293 --> 00:19:58,261
I think I just had
to get that out.
495
00:19:58,361 --> 00:20:00,533
I'm sorry.
496
00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:03,907
So the lawsuit
was settled in 2024.
497
00:20:04,007 --> 00:20:07,013
It was settled
for $1.85 million,
498
00:20:07,113 --> 00:20:11,989
which is a far cry from the
$22 million in damages sought.
499
00:20:12,089 --> 00:20:15,429
Tiffany Smith, Hunter Hill,
and Piper Rockelle Inc
500
00:20:15,530 --> 00:20:18,002
never admitted to
any wrongdoing.
501
00:20:18,102 --> 00:20:20,106
When that was happening,
it was my lowest
502
00:20:20,206 --> 00:20:21,676
of my whole everything.
503
00:20:21,776 --> 00:20:27,319
I didn't think that I was going
to make it to 18 years old,
504
00:20:27,419 --> 00:20:29,525
because I thought that
I was going to, like--
505
00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:35,136
Oh, honey.
506
00:20:35,236 --> 00:20:36,706
Yeah.
507
00:20:36,806 --> 00:20:39,344
So when people do talk about it,
it's, like, so not fun at all.
508
00:20:39,444 --> 00:20:40,480
They gained from that.
509
00:20:40,581 --> 00:20:41,549
I lost.
510
00:20:41,649 --> 00:20:43,586
And I have to get
reminded about it a lot.
511
00:20:43,686 --> 00:20:47,426
But I just wish they would
have maybe thought about how
512
00:20:47,527 --> 00:20:50,132
it could have affected me.
513
00:20:50,232 --> 00:20:52,905
After the lawsuit
was filed, YouTube
514
00:20:53,005 --> 00:20:55,009
demonetized Piper's channel.
515
00:20:55,109 --> 00:20:58,616
At the time, Piper and
Tiffany, they're making about
516
00:20:58,716 --> 00:21:01,589
$300,000 to $400,000 a month.
517
00:21:01,689 --> 00:21:03,693
So that is a significant loss.
518
00:21:03,793 --> 00:21:07,735
So all of a sudden, her main
source of income was gone.
519
00:21:07,835 --> 00:21:10,139
And not only that,
but her other sources
520
00:21:10,239 --> 00:21:14,748
of income, like brand deals or
sponsorships, those vanished.
521
00:21:14,848 --> 00:21:17,387
And Piper actually told
me that at one point,
522
00:21:17,487 --> 00:21:20,326
her mom told her,
just go out in public
523
00:21:20,426 --> 00:21:22,397
and say that you're against me.
524
00:21:22,497 --> 00:21:23,600
It doesn't have to be true.
525
00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:25,604
But just, like, go
save your career.
526
00:21:25,704 --> 00:21:27,440
And Piper refused to do that.
527
00:21:27,541 --> 00:21:28,977
So what does Piper do?
528
00:21:29,077 --> 00:21:32,183
She pivots, and she leaves
that young girl behind.
529
00:21:32,283 --> 00:21:36,793
FORTESA LATIFI: Around when
she was 16, 17, Piper's content
530
00:21:36,893 --> 00:21:37,728
changed.
531
00:21:37,828 --> 00:21:39,965
She was posting
these photos that
532
00:21:40,065 --> 00:21:42,269
were-- that were very
suggestive, and also
533
00:21:42,369 --> 00:21:46,178
with captions that were kind of,
like, teasing the idea that she
534
00:21:46,278 --> 00:21:49,451
might join OnlyFans,
or she would do content
535
00:21:49,552 --> 00:21:51,789
with famous OnlyFans creators.
536
00:21:51,889 --> 00:21:55,195
She says she doesn't want to
blame her joining OnlyFans
537
00:21:55,295 --> 00:21:57,433
on her YouTube
being demonetized,
538
00:21:57,534 --> 00:22:00,473
but I think it's difficult
to look back at her life
539
00:22:00,574 --> 00:22:02,978
and not see that as
a huge turning point.
540
00:22:03,078 --> 00:22:06,151
I think she had a very
limited set of choices,
541
00:22:06,251 --> 00:22:10,660
and OnlyFans seemed like the
most lucrative and most obvious
542
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,197
decision.
543
00:22:12,297 --> 00:22:14,669
I'm doing my first
ever collab on OnlyFans,
544
00:22:14,769 --> 00:22:16,573
which I'm super excited
about with Sophie
545
00:22:16,673 --> 00:22:18,108
Rayne and Aishah Sofey.
546
00:22:18,209 --> 00:22:21,381
They're, like, the two hottest
little girls ever, women.
547
00:22:21,481 --> 00:22:23,219
I love them so much.
548
00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:24,721
We just went on a
little trip together,
549
00:22:24,821 --> 00:22:27,627
and we took some photos,
and it was so much fun.
550
00:22:27,727 --> 00:22:28,964
Like, so, so, so much fun.
551
00:22:29,064 --> 00:22:31,368
So I had the best time ever.
552
00:22:31,468 --> 00:22:33,038
JUJU CHANG: How would
you say the OnlyFans
553
00:22:33,138 --> 00:22:35,476
feed is different than
what's out there socially?
554
00:22:35,577 --> 00:22:37,548
PIPER ROCKELLE: All I got
to say is that you could
555
00:22:37,648 --> 00:22:39,151
go see, you know what I mean?
556
00:22:39,251 --> 00:22:41,421
Your OnlyFans has no nudity?
557
00:22:41,522 --> 00:22:43,258
I mean, no, not yet at least.
558
00:22:43,358 --> 00:22:44,728
I'm not shutting
that door because I'm
559
00:22:44,828 --> 00:22:46,999
very comfortable with who
I am, but nothing yet.
560
00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:48,135
I just started.
561
00:22:48,235 --> 00:22:49,638
It's literally
only been a month.
562
00:22:49,739 --> 00:22:50,941
I love to show my body, and
I show my body on Instagram.
563
00:22:51,041 --> 00:22:53,947
If show that much on
Instagram, I'm obviously
564
00:22:54,047 --> 00:22:55,617
doing more on OnlyFans.
565
00:22:55,717 --> 00:22:58,556
But you do do
personalized services,
566
00:22:58,656 --> 00:23:00,025
like chatting with people and--
567
00:23:00,125 --> 00:23:00,861
Of course.
568
00:23:00,961 --> 00:23:03,498
[slow music]
569
00:23:04,635 --> 00:23:05,503
It's successful people.
570
00:23:05,603 --> 00:23:07,106
It's lonely people.
571
00:23:07,206 --> 00:23:09,878
I don't care who they are, but I
care for them as an individual.
572
00:23:09,978 --> 00:23:12,082
And I just-- I want to
make them more happy.
573
00:23:12,182 --> 00:23:13,720
If that's what they want.
574
00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:15,757
If they want me to be
mean to them, sure.
575
00:23:15,857 --> 00:23:16,391
I don't care.
576
00:23:16,491 --> 00:23:17,560
Like--
577
00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:21,736
Part of the business
model with OnlyFans
578
00:23:21,836 --> 00:23:25,442
is that these models are able
to message their subscribers
579
00:23:25,543 --> 00:23:28,081
directly, and that
is really a big part
580
00:23:28,181 --> 00:23:29,652
of where the money comes from.
581
00:23:29,752 --> 00:23:33,526
So the messaging that she sends
to her subscribers is racy.
582
00:23:33,626 --> 00:23:34,728
They're very sexual.
583
00:23:34,828 --> 00:23:36,264
They're very teasing in nature.
584
00:23:36,364 --> 00:23:37,567
JUJU CHANG: So
you're single now?
585
00:23:37,667 --> 00:23:38,970
Oh, yeah, I'm single now.
586
00:23:39,070 --> 00:23:41,007
I want to stay single
for as long as I'm doing,
587
00:23:41,107 --> 00:23:42,911
you know, OnlyFans
and stuff like that.
588
00:23:43,011 --> 00:23:44,782
I just don't think that
it's fair to people.
589
00:23:44,882 --> 00:23:46,986
We've talked about
all that you've lost.
590
00:23:47,086 --> 00:23:49,324
If all of that hadn't
happened, do you think
591
00:23:49,424 --> 00:23:51,361
you would be doing OnlyFans?
592
00:23:51,461 --> 00:23:53,866
Um, I really don't know.
593
00:23:53,966 --> 00:23:56,104
I mean, truthfully, there's
a lot of times where
594
00:23:56,205 --> 00:23:58,909
in that whole midst of things,
where I wanted to give up.
595
00:23:59,010 --> 00:24:01,783
So, it wasn't like, oh, I
got to make money or nothing.
596
00:24:01,883 --> 00:24:04,989
I'm totally cool with also
having nothing and no one.
597
00:24:05,089 --> 00:24:07,326
I don't think that I'll
continue to be doing YouTube.
598
00:24:07,426 --> 00:24:08,763
Even if I had my
YouTube right now,
599
00:24:08,863 --> 00:24:10,366
I think that I
probably would have--
600
00:24:10,466 --> 00:24:11,536
I would have grown out of it.
601
00:24:11,636 --> 00:24:13,338
[pop music]
602
00:24:13,438 --> 00:24:14,975
KELLEY CARTER: There's
a lot of speculation
603
00:24:15,075 --> 00:24:17,480
out there about whose
decision it was ultimately
604
00:24:17,581 --> 00:24:19,518
for Piper to join OnlyFans.
605
00:24:19,618 --> 00:24:23,292
Was it solely her decision
or was it her mother who
606
00:24:23,392 --> 00:24:25,062
has been her longtime manager?
607
00:24:25,162 --> 00:24:29,136
Is it your mom deciding,
or are you deciding?
608
00:24:29,236 --> 00:24:30,573
It's never been
my mom deciding.
609
00:24:30,673 --> 00:24:32,778
How many times can I let
you guys know, like, I'm OK?
610
00:24:32,878 --> 00:24:33,947
That I've never been abused.
611
00:24:34,047 --> 00:24:35,617
I've never been
forced to do anything.
612
00:24:35,717 --> 00:24:37,086
KAT TENBARGE: It
is a big question
613
00:24:37,186 --> 00:24:40,727
how much influence Tiffany
still has in Piper's life.
614
00:24:40,827 --> 00:24:42,329
DESTINEE SMITH: And
Piper definitely still
615
00:24:42,429 --> 00:24:45,671
comes to her mom for advice, but
Tiffany never tells Piper what
616
00:24:45,771 --> 00:24:47,106
she should or should not do.
617
00:24:47,206 --> 00:24:49,144
Piper has her own mind.
618
00:24:49,244 --> 00:24:50,747
She makes her own decisions.
619
00:24:50,847 --> 00:24:52,584
What did your grandma
say when you told
620
00:24:52,684 --> 00:24:54,320
her you're going on OnlyFans?
621
00:24:54,420 --> 00:24:55,890
In honor of me just
dropping my link,
622
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:58,228
I'm going to show my grandma
the first set I posted.
623
00:24:58,328 --> 00:24:59,064
I'm scared.
624
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:00,867
I'm scared.
625
00:25:00,967 --> 00:25:03,572
[mutters] Your whole
[bleep] hanging out.
626
00:25:03,673 --> 00:25:07,079
I did not raise you
to do this shit.
627
00:25:07,179 --> 00:25:08,983
My family's the most
supportive thing ever.
628
00:25:09,084 --> 00:25:11,088
I do make her a character where
she, like, wants my money,
629
00:25:11,188 --> 00:25:12,858
but like, I'm literally
making her, like,
630
00:25:12,958 --> 00:25:15,262
a money hungry grandma for my--
like, for the entertainment.
631
00:25:15,362 --> 00:25:17,768
It's the funniest thing ever.
632
00:25:17,868 --> 00:25:20,172
JUJU CHANG: I heard you
bought your grandma a car too.
633
00:25:20,272 --> 00:25:21,742
PIPER ROCKELLE: Yes.
I did.
634
00:25:21,842 --> 00:25:23,211
Who do I have at the end of
the day, you know what I mean?
635
00:25:23,311 --> 00:25:24,582
It's just myself and my family.
636
00:25:24,682 --> 00:25:27,721
So as long as I can
provide, I'm really good.
637
00:25:27,821 --> 00:25:29,223
Mimi, what are we doing today?
638
00:25:29,323 --> 00:25:32,129
Going to get a car with my
granddaughter's butt money.
639
00:25:32,229 --> 00:25:33,766
PIPER ROCKELLE: Spending this
amount of money does hurt me,
640
00:25:33,866 --> 00:25:35,269
but I'll just make
it back in an hour.
641
00:25:35,369 --> 00:25:37,540
DONNA HEALY SMITH: She paid
my house off, number one.
642
00:25:37,641 --> 00:25:39,711
And this was before
she started OF.
643
00:25:39,811 --> 00:25:42,217
She bought me a Bronco, and
she said that she doesn't
644
00:25:42,317 --> 00:25:45,289
want me working anymore.
645
00:25:45,389 --> 00:25:46,992
I'm not going to fight with her.
646
00:25:50,767 --> 00:25:52,737
I just think, like,
it's like the next thing.
647
00:25:52,838 --> 00:25:55,643
I mean, you can't be 18 and,
like, doing pranks on people
648
00:25:55,743 --> 00:25:58,148
and dancing on TikTok forever.
649
00:25:58,248 --> 00:26:00,586
I am very proud of
the decision she made.
650
00:26:00,686 --> 00:26:03,593
It is a lot of money,
and I'm happy for her.
651
00:26:03,693 --> 00:26:04,895
She deserves it.
652
00:26:04,995 --> 00:26:07,667
And she's not doing
anything terribly wrong.
653
00:26:07,767 --> 00:26:09,871
Do you ever feel
like the lines
654
00:26:09,971 --> 00:26:13,178
get blurred between your real
life and your social media life?
655
00:26:13,278 --> 00:26:14,681
No, I'm a pretty--
656
00:26:14,781 --> 00:26:16,084
I know who I am, and I know
who I am on the internet.
657
00:26:16,184 --> 00:26:17,921
I just want to let
people know, like, maybe
658
00:26:18,022 --> 00:26:20,125
I'm a bad influence
on the internet.
659
00:26:20,225 --> 00:26:22,798
But in real life, I'm
a really good soul.
660
00:26:22,898 --> 00:26:26,171
I think I'm a good
influence in real life.
661
00:26:26,271 --> 00:26:28,509
[upbeat music]
662
00:26:28,609 --> 00:26:31,516
JUJU CHANG: In real
life, Piper loves cats.
663
00:26:31,616 --> 00:26:32,751
Always has.
664
00:26:32,851 --> 00:26:35,690
She even has a cat
rescue in her home.
665
00:26:35,790 --> 00:26:37,326
FORTESA LATIFI: Piper
often does giveaways
666
00:26:37,426 --> 00:26:41,902
where she gives fans things
that are even as big as cars.
667
00:26:42,002 --> 00:26:43,906
And so I think she's trying
to show people, like,
668
00:26:44,006 --> 00:26:46,411
look, I'm doing good,
even if you don't agree
669
00:26:46,512 --> 00:26:48,616
with my personal decisions.
670
00:26:51,153 --> 00:26:52,256
All right.
671
00:26:52,356 --> 00:26:54,260
So now the plan is to
drive there with you guys
672
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:55,329
and surprise her.
673
00:26:55,429 --> 00:26:56,599
Her name is Veronica.
674
00:26:56,699 --> 00:26:57,901
She is one of the
sweetest people I know.
675
00:26:58,001 --> 00:26:59,838
She literally helps
cats every single day.
676
00:26:59,938 --> 00:27:02,844
She has not had a car
for a few months now.
677
00:27:02,944 --> 00:27:04,280
She's been getting
rides from people,
678
00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:06,618
and she's had to walk places
to feed cats and stuff.
679
00:27:06,718 --> 00:27:08,857
So this is just going to
help her so much more.
680
00:27:08,957 --> 00:27:10,225
And keep her safer too.
681
00:27:10,325 --> 00:27:11,260
She's a lady.
682
00:27:17,841 --> 00:27:20,346
Oh, the food's out here.
683
00:27:20,446 --> 00:27:22,283
Food.
684
00:27:22,383 --> 00:27:23,184
Can you help me?
685
00:27:23,284 --> 00:27:24,320
Of course.
686
00:27:24,420 --> 00:27:25,990
You know what, you can
just keep it in there.
687
00:27:26,090 --> 00:27:26,692
Why?
688
00:27:26,792 --> 00:27:27,527
It's your car.
689
00:27:27,627 --> 00:27:28,461
I got you the car.
690
00:27:28,562 --> 00:27:29,297
You're lying.
691
00:27:29,397 --> 00:27:31,134
I swear.
692
00:27:31,234 --> 00:27:33,005
No, seriously.
693
00:27:33,105 --> 00:27:33,973
What?
694
00:27:34,073 --> 00:27:35,308
I can't.
695
00:27:35,408 --> 00:27:36,913
Oh.
696
00:27:37,013 --> 00:27:37,915
It's OK.
697
00:27:38,015 --> 00:27:40,086
It's OK.
698
00:27:40,186 --> 00:27:41,723
It's OK.
699
00:27:41,823 --> 00:27:44,995
[laughs] You're so cute.
700
00:27:45,095 --> 00:27:47,466
[sobbing] Are you serious?
701
00:27:47,567 --> 00:27:48,335
Yes, I'm serious.
702
00:27:48,435 --> 00:27:49,137
MAN: Get in it.
703
00:27:49,237 --> 00:27:49,972
Go start it.
704
00:27:50,072 --> 00:27:51,341
It's yours.
705
00:27:51,441 --> 00:27:52,677
No.
It's OK.
706
00:27:52,777 --> 00:27:53,947
Don't cry.
707
00:27:54,047 --> 00:27:55,015
Seriously, you're
going to make me cry.
708
00:27:55,115 --> 00:27:56,852
I've cried too many times today.
709
00:27:56,952 --> 00:27:58,388
It's on right now.
710
00:27:58,488 --> 00:27:59,691
Yeah.
711
00:27:59,791 --> 00:28:02,830
[indistinct speech]
712
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,670
JUJU CHANG: Have you ever
thought of what your life
713
00:28:05,770 --> 00:28:07,205
would look like offline?
714
00:28:07,306 --> 00:28:11,014
Like, if you just put your
phone in a box and walked away?
715
00:28:11,114 --> 00:28:13,652
I mean, that's my
plan eventually in life,
716
00:28:13,752 --> 00:28:15,757
is to put my phone away
and just go somewhere.
717
00:28:15,857 --> 00:28:17,359
I don't think of
myself as this person
718
00:28:17,459 --> 00:28:19,798
that people are going to care
about that much when I leave.
719
00:28:19,898 --> 00:28:22,738
But if I let myself get
forgotten about, I will be gone.
720
00:28:22,838 --> 00:28:24,440
But I just don't want
to allow that yet.
721
00:28:24,541 --> 00:28:27,479
[upbeat music]
722
00:28:30,820 --> 00:28:32,824
FORTESA LATIFI: I do
think she thinks that she
723
00:28:32,924 --> 00:28:35,362
means it when she
says that, but I
724
00:28:35,462 --> 00:28:38,134
can't imagine Piper not online.
725
00:28:38,234 --> 00:28:40,906
Influencers who
get offline, they
726
00:28:41,006 --> 00:28:46,217
really struggle without
that mirror held up to them.
727
00:28:46,317 --> 00:28:48,088
JUJU CHANG: Do you ever
think that you might
728
00:28:48,188 --> 00:28:50,092
look back on this with regret?
729
00:28:50,192 --> 00:28:54,934
I will look back on my
years going through my whole,
730
00:28:55,034 --> 00:28:58,307
you know, learning who I
am, depression, all of that,
731
00:28:58,408 --> 00:29:01,214
and be like, I wish that I
could have known that everything
732
00:29:01,314 --> 00:29:02,182
was going to be OK.
733
00:29:02,283 --> 00:29:03,418
I don't-- I'm never
going to regret
734
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:04,554
this decision that I made.
735
00:29:04,654 --> 00:29:06,525
[music playing]
736
00:29:53,619 --> 00:29:55,455
[theme music]
737
00:30:21,776 --> 00:30:25,014
[audio logo]