1 00:00:12,918 --> 00:00:18,083 Between 2012 and 2022, Line of Duty told the story of AC-12, 2 00:00:18,542 --> 00:00:20,018 a fictional anti-corruption unit 3 00:00:20,042 --> 00:00:22,167 that famously went after bent coppers. 4 00:00:26,918 --> 00:00:29,810 But over 15 years prior to that hitting our screens, 5 00:00:29,834 --> 00:00:33,101 before that series was dreamt up by its creator, Jed Mercurio, 6 00:00:33,125 --> 00:00:35,935 a little-known unit of the Met was being secretly set up 7 00:00:35,959 --> 00:00:37,852 to crack the cycle of corruption that had 8 00:00:37,876 --> 00:00:40,459 infiltrated the country's biggest police force. 9 00:00:40,834 --> 00:00:41,959 I was shocked. 10 00:00:42,375 --> 00:00:46,226 Drug dealing, kidnap, armed robbery being carried out 11 00:00:46,250 --> 00:00:50,351 by police officers was almost fiction, but it wasn't. 12 00:00:50,375 --> 00:00:51,626 It was a reality. 13 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:54,976 Amid the scandals that engulfed the early nineties, 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,685 a few brave senior police chiefs 15 00:00:56,709 --> 00:00:58,626 decided a new tactic was needed. 16 00:00:59,459 --> 00:01:00,852 This could be a film. 17 00:01:00,876 --> 00:01:02,375 You couldn't make it up. 18 00:01:02,500 --> 00:01:05,226 A tactic that would go after those directly responsible 19 00:01:05,250 --> 00:01:07,792 for the corruption to catch them in the act. 20 00:01:07,918 --> 00:01:13,250 Greed, ego, power, it's all out there for grabs. 21 00:01:13,709 --> 00:01:15,476 The fact it was nicknamed the Ghost Squad 22 00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:16,643 sums it up really. 23 00:01:16,667 --> 00:01:18,101 No one knew it existed, 24 00:01:18,125 --> 00:01:19,792 and that's exactly how they'd want it. 25 00:01:19,918 --> 00:01:22,101 That unit's name was CIB3, 26 00:01:22,125 --> 00:01:24,959 and for the first time, this is its story. 27 00:01:38,375 --> 00:01:42,310 CIB3 was set up in 1998 with the specific objective 28 00:01:42,334 --> 00:01:43,852 of smashing the cycle of corruption 29 00:01:43,876 --> 00:01:46,125 that had plagued the Met in the previous years. 30 00:01:47,125 --> 00:01:50,226 The formation of CIB3, I think was A) 31 00:01:50,250 --> 00:01:52,435 a turning point and extremely significant 32 00:01:52,459 --> 00:01:54,560 in the fight against corruption. 33 00:01:54,584 --> 00:01:58,226 Never before had so many resources from a 34 00:01:58,250 --> 00:02:04,226 proactive side been thrown into dealing with 35 00:02:04,250 --> 00:02:06,584 counter-corruption or dealing with corruption. 36 00:02:07,125 --> 00:02:08,685 So, we were given those resources. 37 00:02:08,709 --> 00:02:10,560 Not only we were given the resources, 38 00:02:10,584 --> 00:02:16,602 we were allowed within reason, obviously and legally 39 00:02:16,626 --> 00:02:19,959 allowed to push the barriers, which we did, 40 00:02:20,459 --> 00:02:24,375 and we had the equipment to deal with that. 41 00:02:25,209 --> 00:02:27,935 One of its first targets was a private investigation firm 42 00:02:27,959 --> 00:02:29,476 called Southern Investigations 43 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:31,876 and a bent copper called Austin Warnes. 44 00:02:33,792 --> 00:02:39,101 The story really with Southern Investigations begins in 1987 45 00:02:39,125 --> 00:02:43,351 with the murder of Jonathan Rees's then partner, 46 00:02:43,375 --> 00:02:47,125 running the organisation, Daniel Morgan. 47 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:50,226 Morgan was found dead with an axe 48 00:02:50,250 --> 00:02:52,417 in his head in a pub car park. 49 00:02:52,959 --> 00:02:57,602 Several people have been charged with involvement 50 00:02:57,626 --> 00:03:00,459 in the murder, but no one has ever been convicted. 51 00:03:00,918 --> 00:03:03,226 Sid Fillery came into the picture because 52 00:03:03,250 --> 00:03:06,768 he was one of those involved in investigating the 53 00:03:06,792 --> 00:03:11,393 Daniel Morgan murder, and he was suspected at one stage 54 00:03:11,417 --> 00:03:16,918 of removing what he thought was incriminating documents. 55 00:03:17,334 --> 00:03:19,226 Because allegations had been made against him, 56 00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:21,459 he was removed from the murder investigation 57 00:03:22,918 --> 00:03:27,876 and in fact left the police under something of a cloud. 58 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:32,185 And then a couple of years after the murder, 59 00:03:32,209 --> 00:03:36,059 he then stepped into the dead mans shoes. 60 00:03:36,083 --> 00:03:40,375 Daniel Morgan's shoes and became partner with Rees. 61 00:03:41,417 --> 00:03:46,059 The pair of them then started going, doing a lot of business 62 00:03:46,083 --> 00:03:49,101 with newspapers and media organisations, 63 00:03:49,125 --> 00:03:54,417 getting information from police, corrupt police, 64 00:03:55,459 --> 00:03:58,976 who would pass information to some investigations 65 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,959 who then pass on the information to newspapers 66 00:04:02,584 --> 00:04:05,643 who would then do a story... stories about it 67 00:04:05,667 --> 00:04:11,101 and this went on for some time. 68 00:04:11,125 --> 00:04:14,018 So, Southern Investigations was becoming something 69 00:04:14,042 --> 00:04:17,209 of a thorn in the Metropolitan police's side. 70 00:04:17,834 --> 00:04:21,125 They were causing the Met problems. 71 00:04:22,042 --> 00:04:25,101 CIB3 decides to target Southern Investigations 72 00:04:25,125 --> 00:04:27,101 using its newfound powers to bug their office 73 00:04:27,125 --> 00:04:28,375 with surveillance equipment. 74 00:04:29,292 --> 00:04:31,435 The aim was to collect evidence that would help prove 75 00:04:31,459 --> 00:04:32,852 there was a corrupt involvement with 76 00:04:32,876 --> 00:04:34,459 Daniel Morgan's unsolved murder. 77 00:04:35,375 --> 00:04:37,768 But the surveillance uncovered another chilling case 78 00:04:37,792 --> 00:04:38,959 of corruption in action. 79 00:04:41,167 --> 00:04:44,602 They were approached by a guy who was really worried 80 00:04:44,626 --> 00:04:49,810 about losing custody of his child because he was going 81 00:04:49,834 --> 00:04:52,667 through a dreadful acrimonious divorce with his wife. 82 00:04:54,292 --> 00:04:56,542 The couple were called Simon and Kim James. 83 00:04:57,083 --> 00:04:58,935 Simon James told Jonathan Rees 84 00:04:58,959 --> 00:05:01,834 that he suspected his wife was involved in drug dealing. 85 00:05:03,709 --> 00:05:06,685 Rees said, okay, well we'll get 86 00:05:06,709 --> 00:05:09,375 evidence about that drug dealing. 87 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:13,476 And the pair agreed that when there was a divorce hearing, 88 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,334 this would be very telling evidence against the wife, 89 00:05:16,792 --> 00:05:19,852 and it was hoped the judge would then give the husband, 90 00:05:19,876 --> 00:05:24,250 Simon James, custody of their child. 91 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:28,727 Rees carried out a little bit of investigation but then couldn't 92 00:05:28,751 --> 00:05:33,626 find anything relating to the wife being involved in drugs. 93 00:05:34,626 --> 00:05:36,643 However, despite not finding any leads, 94 00:05:36,667 --> 00:05:38,959 they didn't give up on helping their client. 95 00:05:39,667 --> 00:05:41,560 They instead came up with an audacious plan 96 00:05:41,584 --> 00:05:43,083 to frame Kim James. 97 00:05:45,167 --> 00:05:47,685 So, these two in Southern Investigations says, 98 00:05:47,709 --> 00:05:53,018 'I've got a plan, what we can do... your wife/partner goes out 99 00:05:53,042 --> 00:05:58,834 night clubbing a lot, so ideally if we can put in her possession 100 00:05:59,459 --> 00:06:04,918 some drugs, cocaine typically, we can then tip the cops off. 101 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:06,709 She'll get nicked. 102 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:10,685 Her credibility is shot a bits, so when she tries to get 103 00:06:10,709 --> 00:06:13,351 custody of the child, there's no chance that the judge is 104 00:06:13,375 --> 00:06:16,292 going to give it because she'd be seen as a drug dealer.' 105 00:06:17,209 --> 00:06:21,209 'Happy days, you get custody that'll cost you £7,500.' 106 00:06:22,584 --> 00:06:24,310 So, for seven and a half grand, 107 00:06:24,334 --> 00:06:25,959 this guy says, 'Yeah, I'm up for that.' 108 00:06:26,918 --> 00:06:28,226 But for the plan to work, 109 00:06:28,250 --> 00:06:30,768 Southern Investigations would need the 110 00:06:30,792 --> 00:06:32,918 planted drug seized by police officers. 111 00:06:33,709 --> 00:06:37,167 Rees and Fillery had to have an inside man, 112 00:06:37,834 --> 00:06:39,250 an inside corrupt cop. 113 00:06:39,375 --> 00:06:41,542 That's when they turned to Austin Warnes. 114 00:06:42,375 --> 00:06:45,185 Austin Warnes was regional crime squad detective. 115 00:06:45,209 --> 00:06:47,459 He was pretty good. 116 00:06:48,834 --> 00:06:52,059 He was seen I think he was seen by some of his peers 117 00:06:52,083 --> 00:06:56,500 as a bit of a loose lips sort of individual, 118 00:06:56,792 --> 00:07:01,727 but he had served on the regional crime squad 119 00:07:01,751 --> 00:07:05,393 and had served on crime squads and you don't serve on 120 00:07:05,417 --> 00:07:09,584 those sort of squads unless you have a proven background. 121 00:07:09,709 --> 00:07:13,310 Austin Warnes was obviously quite happy to go along 122 00:07:13,334 --> 00:07:18,727 with this fitting up of drugs on an innocent woman, 123 00:07:18,751 --> 00:07:23,143 he falsified a report saying that he'd had intelligence. 124 00:07:23,167 --> 00:07:27,768 An informant was telling him that she was dealing drugs. 125 00:07:27,792 --> 00:07:32,226 That meant that after the drugs had been planted in the car, 126 00:07:32,250 --> 00:07:36,602 he would then tip the police off that 127 00:07:36,626 --> 00:07:38,476 there were drugs there in the car. 128 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:41,643 She was a drugs dealer and she'd get arrested. 129 00:07:41,667 --> 00:07:45,810 Without his help in feeding information 130 00:07:45,834 --> 00:07:48,101 that she was a drug dealer into the system, 131 00:07:48,125 --> 00:07:50,894 the plan would not have worked. 132 00:07:50,918 --> 00:07:52,959 He was essential for the plan to work. 133 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,709 He had no scruples whatsoever. 134 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,709 Just think about it. He's a serving cop. 135 00:08:01,375 --> 00:08:04,101 He gets approached by Jonathan Rees and Sid Fillery, 136 00:08:04,125 --> 00:08:07,000 the owners of Southern Investigations, 137 00:08:07,709 --> 00:08:10,226 who already put in their back pocket £7,500 138 00:08:10,250 --> 00:08:13,500 from the partner who wanted his wife 139 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:16,792 in the acrimonious separation to be incriminated. 140 00:08:17,334 --> 00:08:20,810 And what he had to do was orchestrate the planting 141 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:24,143 of what drugs were going to be in the car, 142 00:08:24,167 --> 00:08:27,268 which was going to incriminate her, to get a false 143 00:08:27,292 --> 00:08:30,959 search warrant for the house and for the drugs in the car, 144 00:08:31,584 --> 00:08:34,250 and then to execute that in the full knowledge 145 00:08:34,667 --> 00:08:36,375 that she was innocent. 146 00:08:37,292 --> 00:08:40,042 He does not sign the papers to be a cop 147 00:08:40,626 --> 00:08:44,459 on day one to behave in that despicable way. 148 00:08:46,167 --> 00:08:48,876 CIB3 had a complex job on their hands. 149 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:52,143 They needed to disrupt Southern Investigations plan 150 00:08:52,167 --> 00:08:55,018 to frame Kim James and get enough evidence to ensure 151 00:08:55,042 --> 00:08:57,185 the perpetrators including Austin Warnes 152 00:08:57,209 --> 00:08:59,167 could be prosecuted and convicted. 153 00:09:01,125 --> 00:09:02,643 The detective charged with leading the 154 00:09:02,667 --> 00:09:04,542 operation was Roger Critchell. 155 00:09:05,959 --> 00:09:09,935 Roger Critchell, fantastic operator headhunted by the boss, 156 00:09:09,959 --> 00:09:14,810 David Wood because he knew him and trusted him, and he had 157 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:17,185 been very successful in investigating serious crime. 158 00:09:17,209 --> 00:09:19,393 If he can do investigating serious crime, 159 00:09:19,417 --> 00:09:21,751 he can certainly investigate corrupt cops. 160 00:09:22,792 --> 00:09:26,125 What Roger Critchell's role in this was pivotal. 161 00:09:26,584 --> 00:09:29,768 I mean, he had his senior bosses Chief Superintendent, 162 00:09:29,792 --> 00:09:33,894 Superintendent level obviously being the oversight management 163 00:09:33,918 --> 00:09:39,185 of it, but the development of the tactics and the execution 164 00:09:39,209 --> 00:09:43,626 of the agreed strategy was in his hands, 165 00:09:44,209 --> 00:09:48,018 and he had to have a test of nerve. 166 00:09:48,042 --> 00:09:49,083 He couldn't bottle it. 167 00:09:49,584 --> 00:09:51,560 Roger's job was to assess the intelligence 168 00:09:51,584 --> 00:09:53,268 and come up with a proactive, 169 00:09:53,292 --> 00:09:56,542 covert strategy that would catch those involved red handed. 170 00:09:57,334 --> 00:10:00,185 It was known from the bugs that the drugs were going to be 171 00:10:00,209 --> 00:10:05,268 planted in the wife's car, Kim James's car. 172 00:10:05,292 --> 00:10:08,435 Why they chose the car, I don't know, but I suspect 173 00:10:08,459 --> 00:10:12,351 it was easier because if you used the house, 174 00:10:12,375 --> 00:10:14,059 how would you get the drugs into the house, 175 00:10:14,083 --> 00:10:16,310 which if you use a car, 176 00:10:16,334 --> 00:10:17,852 you can do the car in the middle of the night. 177 00:10:17,876 --> 00:10:22,059 This of course caused a dilemma for CIB3, 178 00:10:22,083 --> 00:10:24,976 those listening to the tapes, what do they do? 179 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,626 If we moved in too soon, then we would've shown 180 00:10:30,834 --> 00:10:35,935 Rees and Warnes the fact that we were onto them, 181 00:10:35,959 --> 00:10:38,727 but more importantly, we wouldn't have sufficient evidence 182 00:10:38,751 --> 00:10:42,667 at that stage to prosecute them. 183 00:10:43,250 --> 00:10:45,518 Roger and his team decided to let the criminals 184 00:10:45,542 --> 00:10:47,935 plant the drugs in Kim James' car. 185 00:10:47,959 --> 00:10:49,976 Then when the criminals had completed their work, 186 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,560 they'd replaced the cocaine with a harmless substance. 187 00:10:52,584 --> 00:10:55,185 This would firstly enable Roger's team to prove 188 00:10:55,209 --> 00:10:57,083 that the drugs planted were cocaine. 189 00:10:58,209 --> 00:11:01,268 Secondly, it would Take away any doubt that Kim James 190 00:11:01,292 --> 00:11:03,584 had anything to do with the illegal drugs. 191 00:11:03,959 --> 00:11:06,959 And thirdly, as all of this was happening covertly, 192 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:09,935 it meant Southern Investigations and Austin Warnes 193 00:11:09,959 --> 00:11:11,810 would carry on with their plans to report 194 00:11:11,834 --> 00:11:14,292 Kim James as a suspected drug dealer. 195 00:11:14,751 --> 00:11:18,185 So, we decided that the best thing to do 196 00:11:18,209 --> 00:11:19,685 was to substitute the drugs. 197 00:11:19,709 --> 00:11:24,143 That was the best evidential opportunity that we had to be 198 00:11:24,167 --> 00:11:26,768 able to prove to a jury 199 00:11:26,792 --> 00:11:29,852 that Kim James was completely innocent. 200 00:11:29,876 --> 00:11:32,792 It also showed the magnitude of the corruption. 201 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:36,768 CIB3 had a plan, but this strategy presented 202 00:11:36,792 --> 00:11:38,935 a number of dilemmas for Roger's team. 203 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:41,310 They were going to have to let the regular police who had 204 00:11:41,334 --> 00:11:44,351 been tipped off by Warnes search Kim James's car, 205 00:11:44,375 --> 00:11:46,351 find what they thought were real drugs 206 00:11:46,375 --> 00:11:48,143 and subsequently arrest her. 207 00:11:48,167 --> 00:11:51,959 It was clear that CIB3 was in unchartered territory. 208 00:11:53,417 --> 00:11:57,185 The operation as because of what we then knew, 209 00:11:57,209 --> 00:12:00,560 i.e. the planting of drugs become quite significant 210 00:12:00,584 --> 00:12:02,268 in a number of factors. 211 00:12:02,292 --> 00:12:07,542 We had the ethical and moral issue of Kim James. 212 00:12:08,584 --> 00:12:12,476 We were going to allow an innocent person 213 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:18,125 to be arrested believing that there was drugs in her car. 214 00:12:18,918 --> 00:12:22,852 Do you include her in what was going on with the 215 00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:26,250 potential that you couldn't rely on her being discreet 216 00:12:26,751 --> 00:12:29,542 and the whole operation would be blown apart. 217 00:12:29,876 --> 00:12:32,852 However, as well as the ethical and moral issues, 218 00:12:32,876 --> 00:12:36,685 CIB3 had to consider the legality of what they were doing 219 00:12:36,709 --> 00:12:39,310 or risk the evidence they'd worked so hard to gather 220 00:12:39,334 --> 00:12:41,417 being thrown out at any future trial. 221 00:12:41,584 --> 00:12:46,268 I'd personally spoke to the C.P.S. at the time to 222 00:12:46,292 --> 00:12:48,435 think about was it legal what we were doing 223 00:12:48,459 --> 00:12:50,226 because we were going to let it happen. 224 00:12:50,250 --> 00:12:56,292 And the decision was yes, it was legal to carry it out 225 00:12:57,500 --> 00:13:01,351 in the fact that we were going to allow 226 00:13:01,375 --> 00:13:05,876 a number of police officers to go to the car to search it, 227 00:13:06,584 --> 00:13:08,268 believing that there was drugs there, 228 00:13:08,292 --> 00:13:10,560 knowing that they had been planted, 229 00:13:10,584 --> 00:13:14,226 and knowing that a serving police officer Austin Warnes 230 00:13:14,250 --> 00:13:15,935 knew that they were going to be planted, 231 00:13:15,959 --> 00:13:19,334 it was decided that that was okay to do. 232 00:13:19,959 --> 00:13:23,059 So, they had surveillance cameras trained on the car 233 00:13:23,083 --> 00:13:32,268 and the area, CIB3, and they waited and eventually a friend, 234 00:13:32,292 --> 00:13:36,059 a colleague of Jonathan Rees called Jimmy Cook turned up. 235 00:13:36,083 --> 00:13:39,226 He was also a drug dealer into lots of other things, 236 00:13:39,250 --> 00:13:42,059 and he had in fact himself been a suspect involved 237 00:13:42,083 --> 00:13:45,101 in the murder of Daniel Morgan. 238 00:13:45,125 --> 00:13:49,351 He was seen breaking into the car, 239 00:13:49,375 --> 00:13:52,792 entering the car, and planting some drugs there. 240 00:13:53,751 --> 00:13:55,727 With the drugs in Kim James's car, 241 00:13:55,751 --> 00:13:59,500 it was now up to corrupt officer Austin Warnes to play his part. 242 00:14:01,292 --> 00:14:03,643 Austin Warnes didn't actually get involved 243 00:14:03,667 --> 00:14:04,834 in the planning of the drugs. 244 00:14:05,334 --> 00:14:12,643 His participation in this crime was to arrange for a police unit 245 00:14:12,667 --> 00:14:16,894 not corrupt, to see to conduct a search warrant 246 00:14:16,918 --> 00:14:19,834 on Kim James' car. 247 00:14:20,459 --> 00:14:23,792 He put in an information report. 248 00:14:24,209 --> 00:14:27,185 He made out that it was from an informant, 249 00:14:27,209 --> 00:14:29,935 which was total rubbish obviously, and in the belief 250 00:14:29,959 --> 00:14:33,143 in Austin Warnes' belief and in the belief of Jimmy Cook 251 00:14:33,167 --> 00:14:36,292 and Jonathan Rees, that that was the job done. 252 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:39,101 With the regular police now tipped off, 253 00:14:39,125 --> 00:14:41,500 a search on Kim James's car was imminent. 254 00:14:41,959 --> 00:14:45,101 CIB3 had to act quickly, swap the real drugs 255 00:14:45,125 --> 00:14:47,417 planted by Jimmy Cook for a harmless substance. 256 00:14:48,209 --> 00:14:51,209 The swap was a success, but for Kim James, 257 00:14:51,584 --> 00:14:53,375 her nightmare was just beginning. 258 00:14:54,334 --> 00:14:57,894 Although CIB3 had switched the drugs 259 00:14:57,918 --> 00:14:59,768 for a harmless substance, 260 00:14:59,792 --> 00:15:02,310 Kim James didn't know that. 261 00:15:02,334 --> 00:15:03,834 She thought she'd had it. 262 00:15:04,417 --> 00:15:06,894 Having to go through the trauma and the pain 263 00:15:06,918 --> 00:15:10,250 of having her house and her car searched 264 00:15:11,083 --> 00:15:13,768 then the discovery of what she thought was drugs. 265 00:15:13,792 --> 00:15:15,435 But she knows that they weren't her drugs 266 00:15:15,459 --> 00:15:18,185 because she's not a drug dealer, being taken into custody, 267 00:15:18,209 --> 00:15:21,435 and yet we all knew other than her 268 00:15:21,459 --> 00:15:22,918 that she was totally innocent. 269 00:15:23,751 --> 00:15:29,351 I think she actually fainted or passed out in the custody office. 270 00:15:29,375 --> 00:15:32,018 Such was the magnitude of what was happening to her. 271 00:15:32,042 --> 00:15:34,334 And she obviously knew she was completely innocent 272 00:15:34,626 --> 00:15:39,393 and here she is knowing full well that this custody battle 273 00:15:39,417 --> 00:15:42,435 is going on and therefore now what's just happened 274 00:15:42,459 --> 00:15:44,143 means she's going to lose her child. 275 00:15:44,167 --> 00:15:46,250 It's a serious offence against Kim James here 276 00:15:46,709 --> 00:15:49,768 because the amount of drugs and the packaging of the drugs 277 00:15:49,792 --> 00:15:52,459 suggested that she was supplying controlled drugs. 278 00:15:52,834 --> 00:15:55,685 As Kim James's world came crashing down around her, 279 00:15:55,709 --> 00:15:58,751 her estranged partner Simon James, as predicted, 280 00:15:59,125 --> 00:16:01,500 applied to the court for custody of their child. 281 00:16:01,959 --> 00:16:03,602 She just didn't know what was happening. 282 00:16:03,626 --> 00:16:06,310 Her whole world had been turned upside down. 283 00:16:06,334 --> 00:16:08,727 If she was interviewed, she... 284 00:16:08,751 --> 00:16:11,602 denied any knowledge of the drugs. 285 00:16:11,626 --> 00:16:16,059 After interview they released her on police bail to return 286 00:16:16,083 --> 00:16:19,810 to the police station once the drugs had been analysed. 287 00:16:19,834 --> 00:16:22,852 That could in normal circumstances 288 00:16:22,876 --> 00:16:25,167 take a significant amount of time. 289 00:16:25,584 --> 00:16:29,018 But time was something that neither Roger or Kim James had. 290 00:16:29,042 --> 00:16:30,727 The clock was ticking. 291 00:16:30,751 --> 00:16:34,167 And in order to avoid Simon James being granted custody, 292 00:16:34,792 --> 00:16:37,185 Roger's team had to think smart and quick. 293 00:16:37,209 --> 00:16:43,083 So, two stages, one stage was we went and saw the judge, 294 00:16:43,584 --> 00:16:46,643 to the custody hearing to tell the judge 295 00:16:46,667 --> 00:16:49,768 what was really happening because there's no doubt 296 00:16:49,792 --> 00:16:53,101 the judge would have given Simon James custody of that child. 297 00:16:53,125 --> 00:16:59,185 I then had to think how best to expedite the evidence 298 00:16:59,209 --> 00:17:01,542 against Austin Warnes because I had a problem in that 299 00:17:02,959 --> 00:17:05,685 I didn't really have that much evidence against Warnes. 300 00:17:05,709 --> 00:17:08,894 All I had was him contacting a bona fide police officer 301 00:17:08,918 --> 00:17:12,500 saying that he basically had information that it was in the car. 302 00:17:13,792 --> 00:17:15,810 But Roger had noticed something about Austin Warnes' 303 00:17:15,834 --> 00:17:18,250 tip off to the police that he could exploit. 304 00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:22,310 We looked at the information report that Warnes had put in 305 00:17:22,334 --> 00:17:23,935 and it was quite clear to me 306 00:17:23,959 --> 00:17:27,810 that he was alleging that there was an informant. 307 00:17:27,834 --> 00:17:33,310 I then went and saw the DCI who was the controller. 308 00:17:33,334 --> 00:17:37,768 Basically, told him that in fact, 309 00:17:37,792 --> 00:17:40,393 Austin Warnes had made this whole story up. 310 00:17:40,417 --> 00:17:43,226 He was then given a direction that he would call Austin Warnes 311 00:17:43,250 --> 00:17:47,435 in to then question the information that had been put in 312 00:17:47,459 --> 00:17:51,059 and the fact that he wanted to see the informant. 313 00:17:51,083 --> 00:17:53,894 Warnes now faced with a dilemma where he's got 314 00:17:53,918 --> 00:17:57,042 to produce an informant and there isn't an informant. 315 00:17:57,459 --> 00:18:00,685 What's happening here is CIB3 have taken the game to him. 316 00:18:00,709 --> 00:18:05,185 The corrupt cop is on the rack. He thought he was in charge. 317 00:18:05,209 --> 00:18:07,435 He thought he could get a search warrant 318 00:18:07,459 --> 00:18:10,101 because he legitimately had those drugs planted. 319 00:18:10,125 --> 00:18:12,727 As far as he was concerned, it was watertight. 320 00:18:12,751 --> 00:18:15,143 But what he didn't know is behind the scenes, 321 00:18:15,167 --> 00:18:17,101 CIB3 had beaten him to it. 322 00:18:17,125 --> 00:18:21,602 So, he's back against the wall. He's looking for a lifeline. 323 00:18:21,626 --> 00:18:24,643 He's been put on the rack. 324 00:18:24,667 --> 00:18:26,476 You have got to tell us where did you get 325 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:29,685 that intelligence from because the judge wants to know 326 00:18:29,709 --> 00:18:33,518 because before the judge makes an order - taking away 327 00:18:33,542 --> 00:18:36,185 the custody of the child, he wants to make sure 328 00:18:36,209 --> 00:18:39,042 that intelligence is legitimate. 329 00:18:40,083 --> 00:18:42,626 That's a really difficult place to be. 330 00:18:43,083 --> 00:18:45,500 You are rabbit caught in the headlights. 331 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:49,435 So, the corrupt cop, he decides to make it up 332 00:18:49,459 --> 00:18:53,709 that his informant gave it to him. Big mistake. 333 00:18:54,667 --> 00:18:57,435 Now feeling the pressure, Austin Warnes put forward 334 00:18:57,459 --> 00:18:59,976 the name of a criminal associate who was well 335 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,834 connected in London's underworld. 336 00:19:02,125 --> 00:19:05,018 The informant was a guy called David Courtney. 337 00:19:05,042 --> 00:19:07,584 I don't know how Warnes knew him, but Warnes knew him. 338 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,018 He'd been a prize fighter. He was well connected 339 00:19:10,042 --> 00:19:13,768 in the criminal fraternity, and he was well known 340 00:19:13,792 --> 00:19:16,792 in the criminal world in South London. 341 00:19:17,709 --> 00:19:20,500 Now this is a top criminal. 342 00:19:21,417 --> 00:19:23,185 Someone not to be mixed with. 343 00:19:23,209 --> 00:19:27,643 So, Warnes' then contacted him and it was all 344 00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:29,918 quite bizarre really because it was a common, 345 00:19:30,542 --> 00:19:33,727 we watched under surveillance. 346 00:19:33,751 --> 00:19:35,768 Warnes' meeting Dave Courtney. 347 00:19:35,792 --> 00:19:40,518 Dave Courtney's girlfriend, then took a photograph or a video 348 00:19:40,542 --> 00:19:43,685 of Dave Courtney with his arm round Austin Warnes. 349 00:19:43,709 --> 00:19:47,226 We didn't know at that stage why that was happening, 350 00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:50,667 but what Warnes was doing was actually telling 351 00:19:51,667 --> 00:19:55,476 or telling the story, the fact that he needed Dave Courtney 352 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:57,459 to go and say that he'd given that information. 353 00:19:58,125 --> 00:20:01,935 He was spitting feathers when he found out 354 00:20:01,959 --> 00:20:04,935 that what he had to do was lie to legitimise 355 00:20:04,959 --> 00:20:07,125 the intelligence for the search warrant. 356 00:20:08,751 --> 00:20:10,143 When interviewed for a documentary 357 00:20:10,167 --> 00:20:12,209 about British Gangsters in 2014, 358 00:20:12,709 --> 00:20:15,250 Courtney spoke of the damage it did to his reputation. 359 00:20:16,584 --> 00:20:20,143 I was actually nicked with a bent copper and the truth being 360 00:20:20,167 --> 00:20:21,727 I was actually arrested with a bent copper. 361 00:20:21,751 --> 00:20:27,018 It was resolved but someone for his own personal reasons 362 00:20:27,042 --> 00:20:29,935 decided to go well I think Courtney's a grass.' 363 00:20:29,959 --> 00:20:32,935 It weren't right, it altered my little life, 364 00:20:32,959 --> 00:20:34,435 so for one person in particular, 365 00:20:34,459 --> 00:20:37,417 yeah he did actually put a little stain on me and it hurt. 366 00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:39,810 As you can imagine if you are a grass, 367 00:20:39,834 --> 00:20:43,185 if you are an informant and it publicly comes out that you are 368 00:20:43,209 --> 00:20:44,727 an informant, you're in a lot of danger. 369 00:20:44,751 --> 00:20:49,268 So, Courtney decides to not only film the meeting, 370 00:20:49,292 --> 00:20:54,042 but he then tapes Austin Warnes saying that it was 371 00:20:54,626 --> 00:20:59,042 totally prefabricated that he just needed a favour. 372 00:20:59,417 --> 00:21:02,209 And the fact that Dave Courtney had decided to help him out, 373 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,393 I can't remember the exact words, but it basically 374 00:21:05,417 --> 00:21:08,393 gave Dave Courtney a clear defence. 375 00:21:08,417 --> 00:21:09,976 The fact that he had nothing to do with it 376 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,542 and he was just playing at it really. 377 00:21:12,959 --> 00:21:15,518 At that point, the lab reports came back confirming 378 00:21:15,542 --> 00:21:17,476 that the drugs found in the car were fake 379 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:18,834 and the planted drugs were real. 380 00:21:19,626 --> 00:21:21,876 Finally, Kim James' nightmare was over. 381 00:21:22,375 --> 00:21:24,626 But for Austin Warnes, it was just beginning. 382 00:21:26,209 --> 00:21:29,709 I went to Austin Warnes' house and arrested him. 383 00:21:30,876 --> 00:21:35,250 He was very flippant. He was very 384 00:21:36,751 --> 00:21:38,959 didn't think we were a threat to him. 385 00:21:40,125 --> 00:21:44,226 Quite rude, to be honest, quite blatantly he was going 386 00:21:44,250 --> 00:21:46,268 to be going home that night in his world. 387 00:21:46,292 --> 00:21:48,852 He was going to be taken to police station and he was going 388 00:21:48,876 --> 00:21:51,351 to be interviewed and that would be, that's it. 389 00:21:51,375 --> 00:21:52,751 We didn't have any evidence. 390 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:56,101 But what we did do is give a full disclosure 391 00:21:56,125 --> 00:21:58,500 of what we knew and what took place. 392 00:21:58,959 --> 00:22:01,518 And as a result of that, his whole world fell apart 393 00:22:01,542 --> 00:22:03,459 because he knew then he was going to prison. 394 00:22:04,083 --> 00:22:05,476 He knew he was going to get charged. 395 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:08,709 And over the course of two days of interviews with him, 396 00:22:09,584 --> 00:22:15,393 he finally admitted his part in the actual whole operation. 397 00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:17,459 It all ended up at the Old Bailey. 398 00:22:17,876 --> 00:22:20,059 There's a bit of a funny side to it. Courtney is a character. 399 00:22:20,083 --> 00:22:22,935 He turns up dressed up as a court jester, a couple of times, 400 00:22:22,959 --> 00:22:24,375 just to make light of it. 401 00:22:24,667 --> 00:22:27,059 And they all appeared at the Old Bailey, 402 00:22:27,083 --> 00:22:32,643 that's Jonathan Rees, Austin Warnes and Simon James 403 00:22:32,667 --> 00:22:36,250 and all got custodial sentences. 404 00:22:37,918 --> 00:22:40,226 The operation to catch Southern Investigations and 405 00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:43,059 Austin Warnes in the act was deemed an early success 406 00:22:43,083 --> 00:22:46,560 for CIB3 and proved that the change in strategy 407 00:22:46,584 --> 00:22:48,292 in countering corruption was working. 408 00:22:49,125 --> 00:22:52,250 It's a case that sticks in my mind because of all the 409 00:22:53,417 --> 00:22:58,685 the whole thing involving an innocent mother and child 410 00:22:58,709 --> 00:23:00,935 for what? A couple of thousand quid. 411 00:23:00,959 --> 00:23:04,018 I think that's what he was getting paid and the fact that he's 412 00:23:04,042 --> 00:23:08,476 you know, here he is a police officer and without him, 413 00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:10,000 that would never have taken place. 414 00:23:10,292 --> 00:23:13,935 But that example just shows you how audacious 415 00:23:13,959 --> 00:23:16,935 within the parameters of the law that CIB3 were 416 00:23:16,959 --> 00:23:20,602 able to build a strategy that turned the tables 417 00:23:20,626 --> 00:23:24,334 on the corrupt cop and the corruptors, Rees and Fillery, 418 00:23:24,834 --> 00:23:27,935 to the point where they had nowhere to go, 419 00:23:27,959 --> 00:23:29,125 and they went to prison. 420 00:23:37,542 --> 00:23:40,226 I think an officer who becomes corrupt, 421 00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:43,852 that is the final straw, you can't get any worse. 422 00:23:43,876 --> 00:23:46,751 You take an oath when you become a police officer. 423 00:23:47,876 --> 00:23:53,059 The public expect you to perform your duty without fear 424 00:23:53,083 --> 00:23:57,393 and also without prejudice and certainly without any corruption 425 00:23:57,417 --> 00:23:59,935 because the public look on the police in the main, 426 00:23:59,959 --> 00:24:03,101 the public look on the police as those people 427 00:24:03,125 --> 00:24:05,042 they turn to when they're in trouble. 428 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:07,768 Because you are in that position of trust. 429 00:24:07,792 --> 00:24:10,185 You've been given a warrant card, which gives you 430 00:24:10,209 --> 00:24:14,226 power over the liberty of people, the power of entry. 431 00:24:14,250 --> 00:24:16,894 It gives you so much power over the normal citizen. 432 00:24:16,918 --> 00:24:21,935 And if you are inclined to be corrupt or to abuse those powers 433 00:24:21,959 --> 00:24:24,935 I do actually believe that's the worst kind 434 00:24:24,959 --> 00:24:27,083 of abuse of power that you can get. 435 00:24:27,250 --> 00:24:28,643 It's incredibly damaging. 436 00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:32,500 Every officer swears the oath when they join the police 437 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,375 and to actually take that step against that oath 438 00:24:37,417 --> 00:24:42,476 is a huge issue and causes massive damage 439 00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:44,935 to not only them and their families, 440 00:24:44,959 --> 00:24:48,626 but other officers and the whole organisation in general. 441 00:24:48,834 --> 00:24:52,125 You are policing by consent and the minute that gets eroded, 442 00:24:52,667 --> 00:24:59,042 it takes a nanosecond to lose that and a century to regain it. 443 00:25:06,709 --> 00:25:08,768 Dave Wood and his team were focusing their efforts 444 00:25:08,792 --> 00:25:10,709 on a different part of London. 445 00:25:11,083 --> 00:25:13,059 The intelligence gathered pointed to corruption 446 00:25:13,083 --> 00:25:14,584 in one branch of 'the flying squad', 447 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,792 the Met's specialist unit that dealt with armed robbery. 448 00:25:19,334 --> 00:25:23,185 At this time in the 1990s, the Metropolitan Police 449 00:25:23,209 --> 00:25:28,226 had divided flying squad operations into four areas of 450 00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:33,560 London and the East London branch of the flying squad 451 00:25:33,584 --> 00:25:35,626 was based at Rigg Approach. 452 00:25:36,209 --> 00:25:41,560 Rigg Approach had been thought of as suspect for some time, 453 00:25:41,584 --> 00:25:47,393 and once again, it was decided in order to get hard evidence 454 00:25:47,417 --> 00:25:50,542 to catch cops red-handed, at it, 455 00:25:51,083 --> 00:25:53,626 that they would have to mount a sting operation. 456 00:25:54,542 --> 00:25:57,393 Operation Brunei was interesting. 457 00:25:57,417 --> 00:26:00,685 It had a combination of players which were... 458 00:26:00,709 --> 00:26:05,292 one was a serving cop, two were former cops and a criminal. 459 00:26:05,918 --> 00:26:07,751 The criminal was Michael Taverner. 460 00:26:08,375 --> 00:26:11,018 Now, what this individual wanted to do was to basically 461 00:26:11,042 --> 00:26:14,209 rip off other criminals and steal their drugs, 462 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:17,042 and he was trying to find a way of doing that. 463 00:26:18,209 --> 00:26:19,852 Intelligence was showing that Taverner 464 00:26:19,876 --> 00:26:22,268 had a corrupt relationship with a suspect detective 465 00:26:22,292 --> 00:26:25,268 called Kevin Garner, who had recently left the Met on the 466 00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:28,209 grounds of ill health to avoid exposure of any wrongdoing. 467 00:26:28,459 --> 00:26:31,959 However, there was another serving officer that CIB3 knew 468 00:26:32,459 --> 00:26:35,542 whose identity was unknown and they were desperate to nail. 469 00:26:36,292 --> 00:26:38,976 CIB3 knew that Taverner was planning a potentially 470 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,018 violent drug theft, but they didn't know where or 471 00:26:42,042 --> 00:26:43,334 when that would take place. 472 00:26:43,751 --> 00:26:45,918 So, they took matters into their own hands. 473 00:26:46,918 --> 00:26:49,727 So, the plan that CIB3 came up with is to feed 474 00:26:49,751 --> 00:26:53,393 false intelligence into the system. 475 00:26:53,417 --> 00:26:59,143 So CIB3, they nurtured the relationships within 476 00:26:59,167 --> 00:27:02,435 Taverner's group and fed Intelligence into 477 00:27:02,459 --> 00:27:07,709 Taverner's associates that there was a stash of cannabis 478 00:27:08,375 --> 00:27:10,667 in a flat in Silvertown, 479 00:27:11,125 --> 00:27:14,209 and that was being stored by another criminal. 480 00:27:16,667 --> 00:27:20,167 This type of proactive sting operation was a first for CIB3. 481 00:27:20,709 --> 00:27:23,143 They hoped that the information would get back to Taverner 482 00:27:23,167 --> 00:27:25,560 and from there he would engage with Garner and the 483 00:27:25,584 --> 00:27:28,459 unknown serving cop to coordinate the stealing of the drugs. 484 00:27:30,167 --> 00:27:35,810 CIB3 had put cameras outside the flat so they could film 485 00:27:35,834 --> 00:27:40,351 people going in and they'd put cameras inside the flat and 486 00:27:40,375 --> 00:27:45,667 microphones in order to film the drugs being found and taken. 487 00:27:47,709 --> 00:27:49,876 With 24/7 surveillance on the flat, 488 00:27:50,334 --> 00:27:52,459 CIB3 had to play the waiting game. 489 00:27:52,792 --> 00:27:55,768 Their strategy went to plan as Taverner fed the information 490 00:27:55,792 --> 00:27:57,852 he received into a Rigg Approach detective 491 00:27:57,876 --> 00:27:59,643 called Terry McGuinness. 492 00:27:59,667 --> 00:28:03,685 So, once Taverner had heard that from his associates, 493 00:28:03,709 --> 00:28:06,500 he then tasks McGuinness as a serving cop 494 00:28:07,459 --> 00:28:09,727 who he knew would then contact Garner. 495 00:28:09,751 --> 00:28:13,334 And then a third player came in, a guy called Green. 496 00:28:13,876 --> 00:28:17,435 And those three, that trio was going to be the means 497 00:28:17,459 --> 00:28:21,751 by which Taverner could steal what he saw, 498 00:28:22,459 --> 00:28:25,584 and thought was a criminal stash of drugs. 499 00:28:26,209 --> 00:28:31,459 In reality, CIB3 had hired a flat in Silvertown. 500 00:28:32,417 --> 00:28:37,393 They'd put 80 kilogrammes of cannabis hidden within the flat, 501 00:28:37,417 --> 00:28:39,959 which was unoccupied. 502 00:28:40,584 --> 00:28:43,584 And they just waited to see what happened. 503 00:28:43,959 --> 00:28:45,393 They had observations. 504 00:28:45,417 --> 00:28:48,852 The whole of the flat was bugged with video 505 00:28:48,876 --> 00:28:52,518 and with microphones, and lo and behold, 506 00:28:52,542 --> 00:28:57,602 the three of them turned up McGuinness, Garner and Green. 507 00:28:57,626 --> 00:29:00,310 They went tooled up with weapons because they didn't know 508 00:29:00,334 --> 00:29:02,435 whether there was going to be anyone in the flat 509 00:29:02,459 --> 00:29:05,667 who would put up a fight to protect the drugs or not. 510 00:29:06,292 --> 00:29:07,894 So, they went up the stairs. 511 00:29:07,918 --> 00:29:13,101 There was a camera hidden in an electric plug socket 512 00:29:13,125 --> 00:29:15,685 in the wall that was filming everything 513 00:29:15,709 --> 00:29:17,792 and picking up the conversation. 514 00:29:18,250 --> 00:29:21,626 And as they searched the flats looking for the drugs, 515 00:29:22,083 --> 00:29:26,143 they eventually found 80,000 pounds worth of cannabis 516 00:29:26,167 --> 00:29:29,292 in a cabinet. 517 00:29:29,918 --> 00:29:32,268 They put it into it was already in bags, 518 00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:34,083 and they carried the bags out of the flat, 519 00:29:34,626 --> 00:29:38,727 picked up on film with the hidden camera of CIB3 520 00:29:38,751 --> 00:29:41,143 and that was it. 521 00:29:41,167 --> 00:29:44,310 They dispersed and then CIB3 522 00:29:44,334 --> 00:29:46,459 had got the evidence they wanted. 523 00:29:47,334 --> 00:29:50,167 Taverner and his associates had taken the bait. 524 00:29:50,709 --> 00:29:53,083 But now CIB3 had a crucial decision to make. 525 00:29:53,709 --> 00:29:56,894 So, McGuinness, Garner and Green, they leave the flat, 526 00:29:56,918 --> 00:29:59,101 they've got the 80 kilogrammes of cannabis, 527 00:29:59,125 --> 00:30:00,518 they put it in the boot of the car. 528 00:30:00,542 --> 00:30:04,310 Operationally, the was - do we swoop on them now or not? 529 00:30:04,334 --> 00:30:07,185 Now, an operational decision was made at that time 530 00:30:07,209 --> 00:30:09,209 not to arrest them at the scene. 531 00:30:09,918 --> 00:30:13,476 The reason being for that is it could quite be a good 532 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,518 explanation for certainly McGuinness who was 533 00:30:16,542 --> 00:30:19,393 a serving cop, that actually all he was doing 534 00:30:19,417 --> 00:30:22,393 was he had intelligence that the drugs were in that flat 535 00:30:22,417 --> 00:30:24,435 and he was taking them back to the police station 536 00:30:24,459 --> 00:30:26,459 for safekeeping and investigation. 537 00:30:27,125 --> 00:30:29,626 So, that decision was to let them run. 538 00:30:30,626 --> 00:30:32,935 CIB3 kept surveillance on Garner, 539 00:30:32,959 --> 00:30:35,834 McGuinness and Green and they didn't disappoint. 540 00:30:36,542 --> 00:30:38,310 So, they then leave the scene, 541 00:30:38,334 --> 00:30:40,500 they've got the drugs in the boot of the car, 542 00:30:41,042 --> 00:30:43,560 and they then take it to a house 543 00:30:43,584 --> 00:30:46,500 which is linked to the Taverner's network. 544 00:30:47,125 --> 00:30:53,185 That time that was built in by CIB3, created the opportunity 545 00:30:53,209 --> 00:30:56,185 for that evidence to be gathered and it was the last 546 00:30:56,209 --> 00:31:00,685 jigsaw puzzle piece that meant an arrest could be made 547 00:31:00,709 --> 00:31:03,935 and the wiggle room was completely limited. 548 00:31:03,959 --> 00:31:09,018 The interesting point though was that 80kg of cannabis 549 00:31:09,042 --> 00:31:11,643 were taken and was stored and taken by 550 00:31:11,667 --> 00:31:15,626 McGuinness, Green and Garner but only 56 were retrieved. 551 00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:19,768 And my understanding is they were never found 552 00:31:19,792 --> 00:31:21,876 what... the drugs that were missing. 553 00:31:23,459 --> 00:31:25,935 On arrest, McGuinness, Garner and Green 554 00:31:25,959 --> 00:31:27,375 were brought in for questioning. 555 00:31:27,709 --> 00:31:29,852 Green claimed he knew nothing of the corrupt plan 556 00:31:29,876 --> 00:31:32,792 whilst Garner and McGuinness would only answer, 'No comment.' 557 00:31:33,292 --> 00:31:35,476 That is until they were shown the video footage, 558 00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,292 CIB3 had captured. 559 00:31:37,918 --> 00:31:41,018 It's not uncommon, which is the legal right of people 560 00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:43,250 who have been interviewed to make no comment. 561 00:31:43,375 --> 00:31:46,143 However, in this case, whilst McGuiness and Garner 562 00:31:46,167 --> 00:31:48,709 made no comment on early interviews, 563 00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:52,143 once they were shown the video evidence and the surveillance 564 00:31:52,167 --> 00:31:55,709 of them entering the flat and taking the drugs away, 565 00:31:56,542 --> 00:31:58,209 the writing was on the wall for them. 566 00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:02,250 They could not find a plausible defence to that. 567 00:32:02,751 --> 00:32:06,834 So, how do you reduce your sentence? You turn supergrass. 568 00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:12,226 So, they both turned supergrass and between them, 569 00:32:12,250 --> 00:32:16,018 the two of them gave a lot of information to CIB3 570 00:32:16,042 --> 00:32:21,185 about a lot of different operations that they'd been 571 00:32:21,209 --> 00:32:24,876 corrupt operations flying squad officers had been involved in. 572 00:32:26,209 --> 00:32:29,018 They admitted to a total of 19 offences of corruption, 573 00:32:29,042 --> 00:32:32,560 stretching back to 1991, ranging from stealing 574 00:32:32,584 --> 00:32:35,542 hundreds of thousands of pounds to fabricating evidence 575 00:32:37,459 --> 00:32:41,685 following Operation Brunei, the Met launched Operation Ethiopia, 576 00:32:41,709 --> 00:32:44,375 an investigation into corruption in the flying squad. 577 00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:48,542 It was the largest investigation of its kind since the 1970s. 578 00:32:49,042 --> 00:32:51,268 One of the most compelling cases of corruption 579 00:32:51,292 --> 00:32:53,518 that came out of it involved a career criminal 580 00:32:53,542 --> 00:32:55,685 called Hector Harvey and the robbery of 581 00:32:55,709 --> 00:32:59,584 1.4 million pounds from a security van in 1995. 582 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:05,834 Hector Harvey's choice of crime was armed robbery. 583 00:33:06,459 --> 00:33:07,935 He liked to get on the pavement, 584 00:33:07,959 --> 00:33:13,852 he liked to follow Security express or post office vans 585 00:33:13,876 --> 00:33:15,626 that were loaded with cash. 586 00:33:15,959 --> 00:33:19,976 And in those days, people were being paid in their pay packet 587 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,751 on a Friday in cash, and that had to be taken around London. 588 00:33:25,334 --> 00:33:27,810 And Hector Harvey and his criminal associates 589 00:33:27,834 --> 00:33:31,059 saw opportunities of intervening as that cash is being 590 00:33:31,083 --> 00:33:34,751 transported across London to take it for their own ends. 591 00:33:35,125 --> 00:33:38,375 So, they would be on the pavement armed taking that money. 592 00:33:39,459 --> 00:33:41,810 The man responsible for originally tracking down 593 00:33:41,834 --> 00:33:45,268 and arresting Hector Harvey was a former Metropolitan police 594 00:33:45,292 --> 00:33:47,626 wrestling champion called Albert Patrick. 595 00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:50,894 Hector Harvey was a prolific armed robber. 596 00:33:50,918 --> 00:33:57,435 He was identified after we had arrested a 597 00:33:57,459 --> 00:34:01,143 team and an inside agent in East Ham. 598 00:34:01,167 --> 00:34:04,560 And we got the word Hector Selector, that he was a principal, 599 00:34:04,584 --> 00:34:06,101 he was an organiser. 600 00:34:06,125 --> 00:34:09,351 He was a man on the bike with a gun responsible 601 00:34:09,375 --> 00:34:12,226 for the armed robbery that we were investigating. 602 00:34:12,250 --> 00:34:16,602 An impossible target drove different vehicles, 603 00:34:16,626 --> 00:34:20,018 a hundred miles an hour and you would never know 604 00:34:20,042 --> 00:34:20,935 where he was going to be. 605 00:34:20,959 --> 00:34:24,685 So, it was a very challenging time to put your wits 606 00:34:24,709 --> 00:34:27,351 against Hector Harvey. We identified him. 607 00:34:27,375 --> 00:34:31,518 Hector Harvey was his name, Hector Byron Harvey. 608 00:34:31,542 --> 00:34:33,083 And he had previous convictions, 609 00:34:33,542 --> 00:34:36,792 and he had a safe house in South London. 610 00:34:37,709 --> 00:34:40,310 However, after investigating Hector Harvey 611 00:34:40,334 --> 00:34:41,935 over the course of several months, 612 00:34:41,959 --> 00:34:44,667 they eventually tracked him down to an address in Luton. 613 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:48,351 Fortunately, we had enough evidence to 614 00:34:48,375 --> 00:34:50,852 secure a search warrant, and, in the end, 615 00:34:50,876 --> 00:34:52,643 we had enough evidence to charge him. 616 00:34:52,667 --> 00:34:57,393 He was arrested, charged, trial at Snaresbrook Crown Court 617 00:34:57,417 --> 00:34:59,226 convicted, got 15 years. 618 00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:01,542 His barrister says he wants to speak to me. 619 00:35:01,834 --> 00:35:04,602 I did speak to him, and he said, 620 00:35:04,626 --> 00:35:07,417 'How do I get my 15 years reduced?' 621 00:35:07,751 --> 00:35:09,810 Well, you better tell me what else you've been up to. 622 00:35:09,834 --> 00:35:12,894 And he did, and I've registered him as an informant, 623 00:35:12,918 --> 00:35:15,584 and he told us about what he'd done 624 00:35:15,959 --> 00:35:17,626 and named people in South London. 625 00:35:18,292 --> 00:35:20,727 For his cooperation Hector Harvey's sentence 626 00:35:20,751 --> 00:35:22,894 was reduced from 15 to 12 years, 627 00:35:22,918 --> 00:35:25,685 but Hector the Selector, didn't stop there. 628 00:35:25,709 --> 00:35:27,602 He was now registered informant. 629 00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:29,560 And whilst he was serving his time, 630 00:35:29,584 --> 00:35:31,518 he managed to exploit this relationship 631 00:35:31,542 --> 00:35:34,250 to commit perhaps his most audacious robbery yet. 632 00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:46,226 Hector Harvey was acting as an informant for 633 00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:50,059 a couple of officers who are based at Rigg Approach. 634 00:35:50,083 --> 00:35:55,834 And he told them that there was to be a robbery taking place 635 00:35:56,918 --> 00:36:00,852 and there was to be a dry run, a rehearsal of the robbery 636 00:36:00,876 --> 00:36:05,185 on a security van that was going to happen a week before. 637 00:36:05,209 --> 00:36:10,143 And he persuaded the officers to get him out of prison 638 00:36:10,167 --> 00:36:13,351 to take part in the dry run the rehearsal. 639 00:36:13,375 --> 00:36:20,810 Now amazingly permission was given to get Hector Harvey 640 00:36:20,834 --> 00:36:25,042 out of prison to take part in the dry run. 641 00:36:26,626 --> 00:36:29,584 This could be a film; you couldn't make it up. 642 00:36:30,542 --> 00:36:33,000 We've got an individual, Hector Harvey, 643 00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:37,584 who is profound criminal and he's serving 644 00:36:37,959 --> 00:36:42,852 her Majesty's pleasure in prison, and he's been involved 645 00:36:42,876 --> 00:36:45,167 in armed robberies throughout his career. 646 00:36:46,959 --> 00:36:50,209 He managed to convince the Flying Squad 647 00:36:50,959 --> 00:36:55,185 that if they let him out for a week, because he'd heard 648 00:36:55,209 --> 00:36:58,083 there was going to be a post office robbery, 649 00:36:59,375 --> 00:37:03,976 he could go on the dry run, get the information intelligence 650 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,226 of this robbery, and then feed that back to 651 00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:09,250 the Flying Squad so they can intervene. 652 00:37:10,792 --> 00:37:14,667 I mean, is that a realistic proposition? 653 00:37:15,334 --> 00:37:16,918 But the Flying Squad bought it. 654 00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:20,768 It went up to a very high level at Scotland Yard itself 655 00:37:20,792 --> 00:37:22,894 before approval was given for this 656 00:37:22,918 --> 00:37:27,542 very, very unusual, if not totally rare event. 657 00:37:28,667 --> 00:37:30,852 Having made the decision to release Hector Harvey 658 00:37:30,876 --> 00:37:34,268 as an informant to gather intelligence on the dry run, 659 00:37:34,292 --> 00:37:36,852 it wasn't long before Flying Squad realised, 660 00:37:36,876 --> 00:37:38,417 he had an ulterior motive. 661 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,602 He was indeed allowed out of prison to take part in 662 00:37:43,626 --> 00:37:46,560 what the handlers had been told by him was a dry run, 663 00:37:46,584 --> 00:37:52,852 a rehearsal, but instead, the double cross took place 664 00:37:52,876 --> 00:37:57,185 because in fact, it wasn't a rehearsal, it was the real thing. 665 00:37:57,209 --> 00:38:02,268 For some reason, Rigg Approach did not keep Hector Harvey 666 00:38:02,292 --> 00:38:05,518 under control under surveillance on the dry run. 667 00:38:05,542 --> 00:38:11,059 They let him out and let him run loose and what he did do 668 00:38:11,083 --> 00:38:15,667 was a live armed robbery on a Security Express van 669 00:38:16,083 --> 00:38:19,351 that was taking cash from a Barclay's branch. 670 00:38:19,375 --> 00:38:21,959 It was about £1.4 million. 671 00:38:22,959 --> 00:38:28,167 The plan that Harvey came up with, I mean it is film stuff, 672 00:38:28,751 --> 00:38:33,685 it's creative, he wanted to put fear into an individual 673 00:38:33,709 --> 00:38:36,375 to make sure that they were so scared 674 00:38:36,876 --> 00:38:39,476 that they would go along with the plan 675 00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:42,667 of robbing this van of £1.4 million. 676 00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:48,435 What he did was he had a relationship with the driver 677 00:38:48,459 --> 00:38:54,101 of the Security Express van, and he created a situation 678 00:38:54,125 --> 00:38:58,935 where he strapped a false bomb around the body 679 00:38:58,959 --> 00:39:02,894 of the driver who kept that as a secret 680 00:39:02,918 --> 00:39:05,751 from his colleague who also sat in the front of the cab. 681 00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:08,626 Once the money had been picked up from Barclays, 682 00:39:09,167 --> 00:39:12,602 the driver said to his colleague, I need to tell you this, 683 00:39:12,626 --> 00:39:18,976 my loved one has been taken hostage by the criminals. 684 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,500 I've got this bomb around my body. 685 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,375 We've got microphones all around me. 686 00:39:24,834 --> 00:39:28,101 So, the criminals who want to rob this van can hear 687 00:39:28,125 --> 00:39:30,042 anything that we say, and we discuss. 688 00:39:30,667 --> 00:39:33,727 And if I don't go along with it and you don't go along with it, 689 00:39:33,751 --> 00:39:36,268 I've got potential of this bomb going off, 690 00:39:36,292 --> 00:39:38,935 but more importantly, I've got a loved one 691 00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:40,292 that's been taken hostage. 692 00:39:41,375 --> 00:39:45,435 That was the fear factor to put into the other colleague 693 00:39:45,459 --> 00:39:48,125 to ensure that they could then steal the money. 694 00:39:48,459 --> 00:39:53,185 Hector Harvey on a motorcycle goes in front of the van. 695 00:39:53,209 --> 00:39:57,751 They go off to a quiet location and the £1,400,000 is stolen. 696 00:39:58,292 --> 00:40:02,768 So, a large amount of money and the flying squad 697 00:40:02,792 --> 00:40:07,393 obviously were very, very embarrassed to say the least, 698 00:40:07,417 --> 00:40:11,834 they'd allowed someone out of prison to take part in this. 699 00:40:12,209 --> 00:40:14,685 So, the scene is that Hector Harvey has basically 700 00:40:14,709 --> 00:40:17,185 participated in an armed robbery while he is on 701 00:40:17,209 --> 00:40:20,792 compassionate leave from prison for a week, couldn't make it up. 702 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,542 He managed to put, of the 1.4 million, there was a slice up. 703 00:40:26,959 --> 00:40:30,310 So, he needed to give a payoff to the driver 704 00:40:30,334 --> 00:40:32,000 who was obviously the inside man. 705 00:40:32,459 --> 00:40:33,667 He gets £200,000. 706 00:40:34,626 --> 00:40:39,000 Hector Harvey, he hides £47,000 at his mother's house, 707 00:40:39,375 --> 00:40:42,959 he wanted that for when he eventually was freed from prison 708 00:40:46,209 --> 00:40:47,792 But things didn't go to plan for Harvey. 709 00:40:48,292 --> 00:40:50,935 He was arrested and questioned at Edmonton Police Station 710 00:40:50,959 --> 00:40:53,268 and predictably, he denied knowing that the robbery 711 00:40:53,292 --> 00:40:54,459 was going to happen. 712 00:40:55,083 --> 00:40:57,476 But the officers investigating were more interested in 713 00:40:57,500 --> 00:41:00,083 where the money was than the truth behind the robbery. 714 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,727 He was briefed on what to say in interview 715 00:41:02,751 --> 00:41:06,310 so as to avoid prosecution and was subject to intimidation 716 00:41:06,334 --> 00:41:08,518 and threats by corrupt officers who wanted to 717 00:41:08,542 --> 00:41:09,834 get their hands on the cash. 718 00:41:14,459 --> 00:41:16,500 kill him or deal with him in some way. 719 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,584 And in fact, while he'd been out, 720 00:41:23,083 --> 00:41:27,435 he'd found a grenade attached to his motorbike 721 00:41:27,459 --> 00:41:32,059 and if he'd started the motorbike, the pin on the grid 722 00:41:32,083 --> 00:41:36,542 would've come out and he would've been killed. 723 00:41:37,334 --> 00:41:39,852 Hector Harvey had no choice but to tell detectives 724 00:41:39,876 --> 00:41:41,375 where the stolen cash was. 725 00:41:42,959 --> 00:41:46,727 Unfortunately for him, all that money that he thought 726 00:41:46,751 --> 00:41:50,167 was going to be distributed was actually snivelled up 727 00:41:50,918 --> 00:41:52,083 by corrupt cops. 728 00:41:52,667 --> 00:41:55,083 The £200k was divvied up. 729 00:41:55,918 --> 00:41:59,417 The £47k was stolen by a serving police officer, 730 00:41:59,918 --> 00:42:04,417 and what you had is the corrupt cops travelling around London 731 00:42:04,918 --> 00:42:08,751 trying to track down slices of the £1.4 million 732 00:42:09,250 --> 00:42:11,476 with Hector Harvey, who's the architect of 733 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:13,834 the armed robbery, sitting in his prison cell. 734 00:42:14,959 --> 00:42:17,709 Involved in the corrupt activity was Kevin Garner, 735 00:42:18,417 --> 00:42:20,476 who was responsible for collecting the stolen cash 736 00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:22,626 and sharing it with the other corrupt officers. 737 00:42:23,292 --> 00:42:25,560 He confessed to his part when arrested as part 738 00:42:25,584 --> 00:42:28,185 of Operation Brunei and gave further information 739 00:42:28,209 --> 00:42:30,250 on corruption at Rigg Approach. 740 00:42:31,125 --> 00:42:37,185 He had stolen the £200,000 that was being held 741 00:42:37,209 --> 00:42:40,935 for the inside man at Security Express. 742 00:42:40,959 --> 00:42:44,685 He'd stolen his stash of money and that money had 743 00:42:44,709 --> 00:42:49,209 been distributed amongst other flying squads officers. 744 00:42:49,792 --> 00:42:53,476 Terry McGuiness agreed with what had happened, 745 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:57,292 and he also gave information. 746 00:42:57,709 --> 00:43:01,768 Garner in particular, had been particularly friendly 747 00:43:01,792 --> 00:43:06,643 with a Sergeant at the flying squad called Eamonn Harris 748 00:43:06,667 --> 00:43:11,518 and Garner said, 'Harris, although just a Detective Sergeant, 749 00:43:11,542 --> 00:43:15,059 he ran things, he ran the flying squad.' 750 00:43:15,083 --> 00:43:17,935 There were senior officers above him, but they didn't matter. 751 00:43:17,959 --> 00:43:20,435 It was Harris who organised things 752 00:43:20,459 --> 00:43:23,542 and Harris organised the corruption. 753 00:43:25,042 --> 00:43:27,185 Operation Brunei and the resulting Operation Ethiopia 754 00:43:27,209 --> 00:43:29,518 resulted in several flying squad officers being 755 00:43:29,542 --> 00:43:30,709 sent down for corruption. 756 00:43:31,417 --> 00:43:33,602 But it was Hector Harvey and his audacity 757 00:43:33,626 --> 00:43:35,602 that played an important role in CIB3, 758 00:43:35,626 --> 00:43:37,834 getting involved and making the arrests. 759 00:43:39,667 --> 00:43:44,643 The ironic twist of all this story is that Hector Harvey, 760 00:43:44,667 --> 00:43:46,292 he gets released from prison. 761 00:43:46,751 --> 00:43:49,209 The armed robbery has not been solved, 762 00:43:50,334 --> 00:43:53,584 because it's been supervised by corrupt cops one presumes, 763 00:43:54,125 --> 00:43:59,459 he sees that Security Express are offering a £50,000 reward, 764 00:43:59,792 --> 00:44:02,500 and he thinks, I'll get some of that action 765 00:44:03,751 --> 00:44:06,226 because he ends up potentially in his mind, thinking, 766 00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:08,393 'I've committed the robbery, I've stolen the money, 767 00:44:08,417 --> 00:44:11,500 it's not been solved, and I can top it up with a £50k reward.' 768 00:44:11,959 --> 00:44:17,000 So, Hector Harvey decided to approach them and tell them all. 769 00:44:17,959 --> 00:44:21,310 He met a company director who was himself 770 00:44:21,334 --> 00:44:26,143 an ex-detective who was horrified at what Hector Harvey 771 00:44:26,167 --> 00:44:28,685 was telling him about how the flying squad 772 00:44:28,709 --> 00:44:31,143 had taken some of the money and that there'd been 773 00:44:31,167 --> 00:44:33,292 an inside man on the job, et cetera. 774 00:44:33,876 --> 00:44:37,435 And he, that's the Security Express company director, 775 00:44:37,459 --> 00:44:42,584 went to Scotland Yard itself, spoke to someone high up 776 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:45,894 and complained bitterly about what had happened 777 00:44:45,918 --> 00:44:48,626 and how no action had been taken. 778 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,894 They were furious, so they then decided they were going 779 00:44:51,918 --> 00:44:54,167 to threaten litigation against the Met 780 00:44:54,834 --> 00:44:57,417 and the whole story unravelled, 781 00:44:57,918 --> 00:45:01,560 and it was that intelligence which was able to be fed 782 00:45:01,584 --> 00:45:06,292 into CIB3 and the revelations by Hector Harvey. 783 00:45:06,751 --> 00:45:10,185 That meant that all the people who have been corrupt 784 00:45:10,209 --> 00:45:12,685 and have taken money illegitimately 785 00:45:12,709 --> 00:45:14,709 were going to be investigated and arrested. 786 00:45:15,626 --> 00:45:18,560 With Garner and McGuinness, both going down for seven years, 787 00:45:18,584 --> 00:45:21,876 CIB3 had claimed the scalps of two more bent coppers, 788 00:45:22,459 --> 00:45:25,268 but as they were to find out their fight against corruption 789 00:45:25,292 --> 00:45:27,709 in the Met had only just begun.