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More of that in a moment,
but here's Jill with something else.
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Struggling away, hello.
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Uh...
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[Jill Dando] Television in some way had
always fascinated me from the year dot.
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I was about eight years old
and I'd have my four library tickets
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and go to the library
and get books about television.
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[female reporter] Good morning.
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You're watching
the BBC's Breakfast News at 6:30.
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It took me I suppose, um,
until I was about 25 to get inside.
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[woman 1] Jill Dando.
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[man 1] Jill was the most famous
TV presenter on British television.
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[woman 2] The golden girl
of British television,
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{\an8}murdered on her doorstep
in broad daylight.
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That just does not happen.
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[woman 3] I think anyone
who has got a little bit of fame
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knows that there are two sides to it.
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{\an8}You get a lot of unwanted attention.
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{\an8}Strange people. Obsessive.
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You kind of look over your shoulder a bit.
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People all over are joining again
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to solve some of Britain's
most difficult and serious crimes.
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[woman 2] Crimewatch
had a fantastic reputation
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for putting information out there
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and getting people to ring in
with critical pieces of evidence.
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If you harbor any suspicions, do call.
So many clues and so much anguish.
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Do you ever get worried about the things
you see on Crimewatch?
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Oh. Yes, you do. But the crimes
that we show are so rare.
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It's not something that
you walk into the street
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and think, "The same thing's
going to happen to me."
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[woman 3] There was reason to be scared.
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[man 2] It takes a certain sort of person,
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a brutal sadistic psychopath,
to shoot a gun into a head.
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This was one of the largest
murder investigations
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the Metropolitan Police ever had to face.
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[man 1] It's been 22 years
and it's unsolved.
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Whoever did it is still out there.
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[theme music playing]
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One of Britain's most popular television
presenters has been murdered
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in what could be a professional hit.
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The tributes here on the flowers echo
the overriding reaction of shock...
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[man 1] Even the Queen has been moved
to comment, saying she is shocked...
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{\an8}[man 2] Police say there are many
possible motives for the murder.
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{\an8}[man 3] ...responsible for
solving so many crimes
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{\an8}may have created enemies in the process.
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{\an8}[woman 1] The Crimewatch presenter
may have been assassinated in retaliation
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{\an8}for the NATO bombing of the Belgrade.
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{\an8}[man 4] Detectives confirm that Jill Dando
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{\an8}had claimed of being followed
by a stalker.
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[woman 2] A man who has gone
on trial in London
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had an obsession with celebrities
and was fascinated with firearms.
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[man 5] Detectives say they're not
ruling out any line of inquiry.
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Some believe the killer
may have got away with murder.
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[somber music playing]
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[phone ringing]
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[man] Ambulance service, hello?
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[woman] Hello, ambulance?
I'm walking along Gowan Avenue.
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It looks like, um,
there's somebody collapsed.
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And, confidentially,
it looks like it's Jill Dando.
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And she's collapsed on her doorstep.
There's a lot of blood.
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[man] Can you approach
and check that she's breathing?
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-[woman] Doesn't look like she is.
-[man] Right.
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[woman] Blood's coming
from her nose, her arms are blue.
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[man] I need to find out
if she needs... if she's breathing.
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Is the lady's chest going up and down?
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[woman] Oh, my God.
No. I don't think she's alive.
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-[man] Okay.
-I'm sorry.
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[man] Don't worry. I'll get help for you.
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[woman] Please.
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[man] I was on call for
the central London murder group.
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[phone ringing]
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We had been busy, we were under-resourced.
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And I was told by my detective sergeant
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that there had been a stabbing
down in Fulham.
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[siren wailing]
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Fulham was a well-to-do, wealthy area.
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So it was unusual for that reason.
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Very unusual.
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I was driving down there
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and I got a phone call
from my chief superintendent.
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[cell phone ringing]
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And he said to me, "That case,
that's going to be Jill Dando."
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In most homicide cases,
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the detectives would not have known
their victim at all,
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but in this case,
almost everybody knew of Jill Dando.
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[ambulance siren wailing]
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There was an ambulance coming up
the Fulham Road as we were going down,
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and I realized that was her
being taken away from the scene.
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[woman] It was a lovely spring day...
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and I was reading the bulletins,
the news summaries.
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The next scheduled bulletin is at 2:40.
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I had put on a rather nice blue suit.
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{\an8}Well, one actually that came
from the designers
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{\an8}that Jill and I used to go to together.
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[indistinct chatter]
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And everything was fine in the newsroom,
which is a buzzy, noisy, vibrant place.
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[man] ...page 45.
Tell me what promos you're running?
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And then the news came in
that a woman had been killed.
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And these rumors started going
around the newsroom that it was Jill.
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And it went terribly quiet.
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-[siren wailing]
-[gripping music playing]
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[indistinct police radio chatter]
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[Hamish Campbell] When I arrived,
I was briefed by the uniformed officers.
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And they told me that no one had seen
what had actually happened to Jill.
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But they had already identified
two witnesses
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who had seen a man leaving the scene.
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And they described this white man,
dark hair, thick-set,
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wearing a coat, a dark coat,
wasn't masked, wasn't wearing gloves.
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So the real focus right there
was how the person
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who had been seen running away
was to be caught.
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Uniformed officers were told
to spread out and search the area.
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We were waiting for information
from the hospital
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because there was no confirmation
that Jill had died.
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That changed very quickly
when I stood on the pavement
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and just looked from the gate,
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up to the front door of Jill's house.
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And I could see
the bullet and casing on the doorstep.
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Jill Dando had been shot in the head.
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It was immediately sort of unfathomable.
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The concept of any woman
being shot in the head in London,
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yet alone a celebrity,
was rare in the extreme.
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[indistinct chatter]
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The media are already up
at the top cordon.
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I knew then that the media interest
was going to be extraordinary.
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[ambulance siren wailing]
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[male doctor] Jill Dando arrived here
by ambulance at 12:30 p.m.
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Despite all efforts by ambulance
paramedics and hospital medical staff,
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she was certified dead at 1:03 p.m.
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The newsroom was cold with... with shock.
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Real shock.
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We're people who are used to reporting
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on all sorts of deaths, disasters, wars.
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But to have one of your own...
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[laughing] I'm sorry. It's just I was...
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[Jennie] One of your very, very own,
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killed in that manner on her own doorstep
was just too awful to believe.
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[somber music playing]
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And I... I had to read it.
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[man] Jill was 37.
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[Jennie] I remember a boss saying to me,
"Are you going to be okay doing this?"
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And I said, yeah, I'll be okay.
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[man] Jill was 37.
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Pete, I'm telling you she was 37.
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All right.
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[man] I told her, she was 37.
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She was exactly two years
younger than me. She was 37.
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What shall I say?
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[man] I'm telling you,
she was definitely 37. Definitely.
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Here we go.
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Within the past few minutes,
police have confirmed
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that the BBC television presenter
Jill Dando has been stabbed to death
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outside her west London home.
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She died in the ambulance
on her way to hospital.
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There are no more details at the moment.
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The next scheduled bulletin is at 2:40.
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[intriguing music playing]
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{\an8}I was working in the, uh, Bristol office
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{\an8}of the Bristol Evening Post.
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And our newsroom had a bank of TV screens.
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Our BBC colleague Jill Dando has died
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after being attacked
outside her London home.
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[Nigel] Reports were coming out
that she had died.
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I clicked into sort of automatic mode.
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I thought I need to protect
my dad from this.
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I rushed down to Weston-super-Mare.
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He was obviously devastated.
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I was wondering how we were going
to cope with all this.
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About half an hour
after I had got down to Weston,
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the TV reporter from BBC Points West
knocked on the door. I knew him.
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And I sort of slipped back
into journalistic mode.
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I gave him an interview.
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[man] When did you last see her? Was it...
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I saw her on, um... Easter Sunday.
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It would've been about two,
three weeks ago.
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Yeah, she was on good form.
Um, looking forward to her wedding.
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It was a sense of emptiness
and a sense of despair.
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And I had to explain to my dad
what had happened,
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what was going to happen.
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That we were kind of going to be
in the eye of a storm.
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[helicopter hovering]
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[tense music playing]
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[male reporter] The police search
is well underway now, Alan.
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There are a minimum of 30 detectives.
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You can see behind me
the operation in front of Jill's home.
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[Hamish] All the resources came.
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The ballistics experts, the blood experts,
the scene photographers.
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The scene itself had been
heavily contaminated.
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Because there had been
attempts to resuscitate.
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But everything was picked up,
relevant or not, scrapings, gravel.
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Fingerprint marks from the gate.
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Fibers.
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We had a bullet
and a cartridge casing on the doorstep.
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The ballistics expert told me
it was a single shot
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to the left side of her head.
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Some thought
like a professional execution.
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And that bullet and casing on the doorstep
were from a 9mm caliber weapon.
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The search teams arrived.
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The whole of Gowan Avenue was searched.
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Bins, gardens, flowerbeds, shrubs.
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Looking to see if the gun had been
discarded or anything had been discarded.
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We identified some of the key witnesses.
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The postman, a sort of
Mediterranean-looking man,
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just after ten o'clock on the opposite
side of the road to Jill's house,
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and a witness claimed
he saw a man running across the road
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and he stopped at the bus stop.
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And he was sweating.
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[suspenseful music playing]
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There was a traffic warden,
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and she was about to give a ticket
to the driver of a blue Range Rover,
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and as she was starting
to write the ticket out,
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he brushed her off and he drove away.
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So, I didn't know at the time
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whether there was
one person involved or two or three.
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Everybody in that street on that day
had to be eliminated out
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as much as possible.
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[vehicles honking]
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[birds squawking]
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[gripping music playing]
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{\an8}The next day's newspapers were absolutely
rammed with stories about the murder.
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It was the only story in town.
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On a sad morning,
we'll be talking about poor Jill Dando.
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The shocking loss of one of Britain's
best-known personalities
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drew many tributes.
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In London,
police are investigating a murder
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that has shocked
the television-viewing public.
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[reporter 1] Jill Dando was,
in the opinion of many in Britain,
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second only to Princess Diana
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in terms of public affection.
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Jill Dando was someone who was known
to, virtually, everybody in this country.
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[reporter 2] Even the Queen
has been moved to comment,
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saying she is shocked and saddened.
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[woman] Following the death
of Princess Diana,
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{\an8}I would say that Jill Dando's murder
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{\an8}was the biggest story
that we will ever report on.
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[indistinct chatter]
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Female journalists of my generation
were shaken by it
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because we saw ourselves in Jill.
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Jill had been a journalist.
She loved the press.
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She was good to us, she respected us,
she knew we were doing a job
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and we wanted as much as the police
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to find out who did it
because she was one of us.
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[gripping music playing]
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I was the crime correspondent
at the Daily Mirror.
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I can remember discussing it
with... with my news editor.
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And him saying to me,
"So, what do you think about this?"
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He said, it must be
something with Crimewatch.
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Well, not necessarily, hold your horses.
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One of the pieces of information coming in
from one of our reporters on the ground
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was that they'd found a neighbor
to Jill's house in Gowan Avenue
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who'd heard a scream.
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-[reporter] Did you hear a man's voice?
-No man's voice at all.
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-Did you hear a shot or did you...
-There was no shots.
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From what I'd say was a shot,
I didn't think there was a shot, no.
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[reporter] From your assessment,
what did you hear?
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I did hear... a scream.
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I had a private conversation
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with one of the members
of the murder squad.
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He said we cannot find
any witnesses, any neighbors,
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anybody who was in the area at the time
who actually heard a gunshot.
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We don't have the gun.
We don't have anybody who saw the gun.
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But this weapon could have
had a silencer on it.
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Unlike in the movies,
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a silencer on a gun is a very rare
piece of equipment in real life.
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So, automatically, that suggestion
steered us in the direction
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that maybe this was a professional job.
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Somebody asked the question,
is this an assassination?
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Is this an execution?
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Like a political murder
or an organized crime murder?
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So all the theories about, you know,
the who, the what, the why,
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were starting to stack up.
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[male reporter] Jill Dando was left dying
on the doorstep of her home.
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Revenge, perhaps, for her role as a crime
reporter who helps jail top criminals.
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Everyone had a view on how Jill Dando
was murdered and who was responsible.
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[intriguing music playing]
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Back to the office,
I held a meeting with the team.
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I said, there's a danger of us
being swept up with the media hype.
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And reminded them that,
with any murder investigation,
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the victim was a key element
to try to solve the case.
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So we needed to look at Jill's life.
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Who is Jill
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and who were the persons
closest to her and nearer to her?
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I don't, I'm afraid.
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I'm one of these people
who what you see is what you get.
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I don't think I've got
any skeletons in the cupboard.
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[audience laughing]
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[children chattering]
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[Nigel] I was nine years old
when Jill was born in 1961.
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Quite often on a Sunday as a family,
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we'd go down for a picnic on the beach.
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Do you remember those
sand-blown lettuce sandwiches?
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[laughs]
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They were part of the staple diet
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of summers growing up
in Weston-super-Mare.
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[nostalgic music playing]
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There wasn't much money around.
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We didn't have exotic holidays like that.
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I wonder whether
she actually had a passport
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before she was offered the job
as, uh, presenting the Holiday program.
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[imperceptible]
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It was almost preordained
that she was going to become a journalist.
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Well, she was interested in words
and, um, she was more outgoing than I was.
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I'd whisper in her ear occasionally
saying, "Why are you still in Weston?"
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"Why don't you look for jobs
around the place?"
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Thirty years ago,
a computer capable of similar calculations
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wouldn't have fitted
into a building this size.
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It would have been full of...
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[Nigel] She got a job as a journalist
on BBC Spotlight, based in Plymouth.
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And then became a presenter.
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They do mention the ethics committee
refusing this idea.
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They've said no more sisters
are going to be donors.
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[Nigel] She was so polished
and so professional.
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...Fisherman depend
is in deep financial trouble.
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[Nigel] But at the same time
retaining a natural warmth about her.
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[laughing]
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Sort of a twinkle in her eye.
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Her performances on Spotlight
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caught the attention
of the producers at BBC Breakfast.
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[man] ...television made, is going up
the line to Breakfast Time.
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[Nigel] The world by then was her oyster.
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-I must just...
-How many times have I done this now?
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Thank you very much. Oh, God. [laughs]
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-We wish you well, my darling.
-Thank you.
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You better say goodnight
for the last time.
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Good night from here
and good morning from London on Monday.
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[producer] Page 45. Now, would you tell me
what promos you're running?
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Give me that. Just hold on a second.
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No, Bob, I've got to know now.
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Run the first one. I'll confirm
in a couple of seconds.
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{\an8}I'm Bob Wheaton.
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{\an8}At that time, I was, uh,
running the six o'clock news.
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I can remember.
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There I was sitting at the desk.
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I'm ready to get the six o'clock news
of the day prepared.
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And there on, um, BBC Breakfast Time...
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-Dementia has found more evidence...
-...was Jill.
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...possible link with aluminum levels...
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[Bob] Hadn't seen her before.
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[Jill] The study, published in...
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She had a good face for television.
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While Frank Bruno's been preparing
for his fight...
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[Bob] Her voice, beautiful,
a classless English voice.
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...tussling with a
television crew in Canada.
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She was a total natural.
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Winds of up to 100 miles an hour...
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[Bob] She shone and I knew
she was gonna go places.
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But I think how you look does matter.
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And she'd arrived from provinces
looking like a regional girl.
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I'd looked at her and said to her,
"You need to sort the way your hair is,
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you need to wear the right clothes."
She'd put on a lot of weight.
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And, you know, she was advised
that she needed to look right.
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{\an8}At the time she had curly, permed hair.
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{\an8}Um, brown.
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And she wanted a different look.
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I think I suggested that we cut this short
and, uh, see where we go with it.
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And she said, "I'm going to be
on television. Should I ask my producer?"
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And I went, "No,
probably not a good idea."
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[indistinct chatter]
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[device beeping]
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The government's £3.25 billion package
to keep down the poll tax
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has been welcomed
by Conservative backbenchers.
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[Martyn] It became
quite a signature look.
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And in many ways
I think people saw Jill as a TV Diana.
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[indistinct chatter]
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At that time, Diana would come down
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and we would probably do
the occasional blow-dry.
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[male interviewer]
Who had the haircut first?
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Jill.
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[Bob] Her hair was right.
She had lost a lot of weight.
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Her diction was perfect. She had a charm
about the way she presented the news.
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Well, a fine weekend in prospects.
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And people regarded her
as a girl next door
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who was giving them, uh, the authority
of BBC News and it was a good package.
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I suppose in celebrating
the success, we got closer.
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And, uh, eventually we became involved.
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[Jennie] Jill got involved
with Bob very early on,
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so that was always quite...
I don't want to say this on camera.
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It was a difficult situation. She was...
She was with the boss.
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I think the top will probably be
South Africa again.
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Today, or rather today...
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[Jon] I always thought it was
a very strange relationship
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because she was so freewheeling...
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Just hanging fine...
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{\an8}And he was quite a control freak,
but in a very quiet way.
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{\an8}There was no bad word said,
it was like I, you know...
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"Shh. Let me explain. This is what it is."
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It was that kind of relationship.
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...section which has got library film
and graphics and so on.
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{\an8}Jill was at the top of her game.
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{\an8}She'd choose what she wanted to do.
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[crowd cheering, applauding]
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I was brought in as a young journalist,
I think I was about 23.
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[pensive music playing]
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I really looked up to Jill.
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Um, she was absolutely
where I wanted to end up.
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The headlines this morning...
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[Anastasia] But it was really hard.
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It was difficult
not to feel a bit of an imposter.
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[Jill] Could we have?
I wouldn't mind some scripts.
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[Anastasia] Sitting next to
these alpha males,
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sometimes she was made to feel inferior.
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So often when he's talking
to ladies who say
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it's harder for us in broadcasting.
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And I keep thinking,
absolute nonsense, I mean, you know,
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if you're a good-looking woman,
then it is not difficult.
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00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,160
-It, well...
-It is easier.
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00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,840
No. I think people expect more of women,
that's the trouble, you know...
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As Jill's, uh, career is advancing,
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one of the problems that she had,
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all the women had, was that it was
a very male-dominated company.
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To be absolutely honest,
it was quite misogynistic.
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All sorts of men
will be regarded as controlling
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because men are especially...
Tough editors are tough sometimes.
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But controlling in a way
which is detrimental to the relationship
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or to the person, not at all.
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[intriguing music playing]
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The reality is, most people are killed
by someone they know.
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{\an8}The people in her inner circle
were Alan Farthing, her fiancé.
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{\an8}Her previous partner for, who had been
her partner for some years, seven years.
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Mr. Wheaton.
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{\an8}And her business agent, Mr. Roseman.
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They had to be seen and interviewed
and eliminated primarily by alibi.
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If you could show you were somewhere else
on the 26th of April, in that time frame,
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you can't be the murderer.
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But it doesn't necessarily remove yourself
from somehow arranging for her murder,
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if that was the situation.
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[indistinct chatter]
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First of all I wanted to ask
how you're coping at the moment.
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I think I'm coping in the same way as
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anybody else would cope
under the circumstances.
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00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,920
I'm devastated.
430
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,280
Everybody around me is devastated.
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00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:12,000
-[indistinct clamoring]
-Hi.
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[indistinct conversation]
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[Alan] I cannot understand
why they would want to kill
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-somebody as gentle...
-This was my mother's...
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...kind, well-meaning and
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as perfect a person as Jill.
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00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:28,680
Yes.
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The best daytime television program.
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00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,560
[Nigel] I'll always remember it.
440
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,360
We were in the back of a limousine
following Jill's coffin.
441
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,200
There were just
thousands of people who'd come out.
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00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,960
Weston just stopped.
443
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,120
[melancholy music playing]
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00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,560
I didn't know her personally,
but I thought I'd like to be here.
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00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,240
[woman] Diana was our rose,
but Jill was our sunflower.
446
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,880
I can't say any more.
447
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,200
[male reporter] A hundred or so people
were invited to the church.
448
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,000
Many of her friends worked
with her at the BBC.
449
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,000
The coffin arrived
at the church at three o'clock.
450
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,280
It was accompanied by her brother, Nigel.
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00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,280
Her father, Jack.
452
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,480
And, of course, by the man
she would have married this September,
453
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her fiancé, Alan Farthing.
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[Martyn] When Jill met Alan, it was quite
a life-changing moment for her.
455
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A moment that she'd thought about
and had dreams of for quite a while.
456
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{\an8}She'd announced her engagement.
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00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,920
She should have been in a church
getting married, you know,
458
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and here she was
in a church being buried.
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[priest] Life was entering a new,
exciting, fulfilling age.
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Until that fateful moment,
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Jill, the beautiful girl next door,
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known to every family in the country,
was shot dead.
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And then everyone was asking
the question, "Why?"
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[Hamish] Some of my key thinking
about it was,
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if someone deliberately
set out to kill her,
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00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,600
why would they choose to kill her?
What was to be gained from that?
467
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,880
What benefit would anybody accrue
from killing Jill Dando?
468
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,720
And then Alan Farthing mentioned
that a large sum of money,
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00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,400
over £30,000, £35,000,
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{\an8}was given by Jill to Mr. Wheaton.
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00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,720
[intriguing music playing]
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00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,640
So, that had to be investigated as to why
that sum of money had been given over.
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00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,560
[Bob] After the funeral,
the police came to see me.
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And one of the policemen goes,
"Well, we've had this report
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that you owed her quite a lot of money,
476
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,560
um, and you still owed it to her
when she died."
477
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,160
"Uh, would you like to explain that?"
478
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,520
I said, "Yeah. Yeah.
I'm quite happy to do that."
479
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720
[intriguing music playing]
480
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,760
And you sort of feel, gosh,
you know, the light is on me here.
481
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,600
They wanted to know about how we met,
482
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,640
um, how long we'd been together,
uh, how did we break up.
483
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,720
And yes, she had contributed towards me
buying my house by the river.
484
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,880
I said, I had a mortgage, um,
but there was a small shortfall.
485
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,800
I could've had a bigger mortgage,
but she wanted to share
486
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,520
because we were then
sharing the house together.
487
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,480
And by the way, I do not need
that much money that badly.
488
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,680
I can show you the evidence of why,
and I took him to my computer,
489
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,800
went into my bank account and showed him,
um, that I had quite a lot of money.
490
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,920
She was generous to everybody,
including me.
491
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,120
We loved each other.
492
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,720
I wouldn't have ever thought
of doing something like that.
493
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:42,360
To have lost somebody with whom,
uh, I had spent valuable, interesting,
494
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,320
important and enjoyable years
was a massive blow.
495
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,440
[pensive music playing]
496
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,800
[Hamish] Well, the things
that are innocuous can appear suspicious.
497
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,120
I think it was just a gift
from Jill to Mr. Wheaton.
498
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,480
You know, you talk about things in detail
499
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,440
but when following death,
things can emerge,
500
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,520
but they're almost tittle-tattle,
gossip, salacious or otherwise.
501
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,240
But it doesn't move you into the realm
of responsibility for killing someone.
502
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,560
{\an8}We concluded that he was...
503
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,840
{\an8}he had nothing to do
with the murder at all.
504
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,560
{\an8}And we needed to sift out all that noise
505
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,880
and try to really focus
on basic principles
506
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,520
before getting carried away further
and further down different avenues.
507
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,160
Jill didn't live at 29 Gowan Avenue.
508
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,880
She lived with her fiancé,
further out in West London.
509
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,320
We knew she visited Gowan Avenue rarely
and stayed overnight even more rarely.
510
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,520
So to know that Jill would turn up
at 29 Gowan Avenue
511
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,040
on Monday morning by 11:30,
512
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,800
you would have to have been following her.
513
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,280
-[suspenseful music playing]
-[device beeping]
514
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,120
[detective inspector] I was
the deputy on the inquiry.
515
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,760
It was a painstaking process.
516
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,720
{\an8}Two officers going through
517
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,960
{\an8}the many hundreds of hours of CCTV.
518
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,200
There were thousands of people
to eliminate from the inquiry.
519
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,680
Nothing would be discounted
until each had been evaluated
520
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,920
to a degree by one of the team.
521
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,720
There was over 190 CCTV and cameras
in the surrounding streets.
522
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Four hundred and thirty hours
of viewing time.
523
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,640
And from that we established
Jill's movements on the 26th of April.
524
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,680
Started from Alan Farthing's home.
525
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,600
{\an8}[suspenseful music playing]
526
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,600
She stopped at a petrol station.
527
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,360
{\an8}Filled the car with petrol.
528
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,320
And then she left the petrol station
and she went into Hammersmith town center.
529
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,200
{\an8}Went to at least two shops, maybe three,
to buy some fax paper or copying paper.
530
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,680
She returned to her car.
531
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,400
{\an8}Then she left Hammersmith
and travelled south down to Fulham Road.
532
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Then she got down to near Gowan Avenue,
533
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,640
{\an8}parked right outside her house.
534
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,000
And then she walked up the gateway.
535
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,600
And killed at the doorstep.
536
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,320
[Ian] It was simply a matter
of just plodding through everything.
537
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,360
And we can categorically say,
100%, that she wasn't followed.
538
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,440
So, how did the killer know
539
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,320
that she was going to be
at Gowan Avenue that morning?
540
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,640
And then the thinking
541
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480
is that Jill told somebody where she was.
542
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,680
So we did look at the phone calls
to her on that day.
543
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,080
Who knew she was going to be
where she was?
544
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,760
There was one person alone.
545
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Mr. Roseman.
546
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,639
Jon Roseman was Jill's
very colorful agent.
547
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,239
Um, I had lots of dealings
with Jon over the years.
548
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,199
He was very, uh,
shall I say, robust to deal with.
549
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,800
He was very straight-talking.
Uh, you knew when you'd upset him.
550
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,880
There's a very famous story about him
551
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,280
going around somewhere with a baseball bat
to, uh... to show his feelings.
552
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,360
[gripping music playing]
553
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,800
[Jon] The police, they came to visit me
on a Saturday morning.
554
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,840
And they asked me about this timeline.
555
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,320
Because the only reason she went there
that day was to pick up some faxes
556
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,760
that had been sent to her
from my office about some work.
557
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,600
She was on her way
to a lunch, I think it was.
558
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,600
And so she just, like,
literally stopped off
559
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,440
back to her house to pick up faxes.
560
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,640
[keys jingling]
561
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,800
One of the things that
they were interested in was my book.
562
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,320
I had always wanted to be a writer.
563
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,560
And so I had written a book.
564
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,520
They always say,
write about what you know,
565
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,160
so I wrote about an agent.
566
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,200
An agent whose clients were murdered
under mysterious circumstances.
567
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,600
A client who'd been shot.
568
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,240
[Hamish] Mr. Roseman had written a book
569
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,440
which involved the death
of a presenter or personality.
570
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,920
So that seemed ironic
that he's writing a novel
571
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,120
which actually then occurred in real life.
572
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,840
[Jon] The police, there were two of them,
sitting in my office,
573
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,640
and we talked it through
574
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,920
and they asked me if I had a manuscript
of the book, which I did.
575
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,200
And they also said,
"What was the time difference
576
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,880
between the first murder in the book
and the second murder in the book?"
577
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,360
And I'm thinking,
like I was in the Twilight Zone.
578
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,640
I thought, he's not taking this seriously,
579
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:24,040
like somebody's had my manuscript
and is following the plan of the book?
580
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,680
[male interviewer] Did you think
whether others might be suspecting you?
581
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,240
[laughs]
582
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,120
Well, I'd have to have paid someone
to do it, that's for sure.
583
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,920
But I had this reputation,
584
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,200
and yes, I was really tough,
but it was just an act.
585
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,520
And anybody who suspected
that I would cut off
586
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,760
a financial revenue like Jill Dando's
would have to be insane.
587
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:50,840
[chuckles]
588
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,240
[director] Action.
589
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,400
Well, that's all for this...
590
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Hang on, I can't see the lens.
591
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,440
[man] When you turn,
bring your body around.
592
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,720
Oh, okay, right. I'm going...
593
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,760
[Jon] I mean, it sounds terrible,
but had we not sent her any faxes...
594
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,160
That's all from Mauritius.
595
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:06,440
Next week I'll be on
the Greek island of Skiathos.
596
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,160
I'm not going to say...
597
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:11,600
Had she not gone back to the house
that day, it wouldn't have happened.
598
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,120
Who knows how, where else
it would have happened,
599
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,080
but that was the reason
she went back to the house.
600
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,840
I do find this kind of stuff
really difficult to talk about.
601
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,200
Oh! It's just so glamorous.
It's wonderful. Let me at it.
602
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,920
Everything was going so well for her.
603
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,760
I came here unescorted, but I'm told
that a prince is waiting in the wings.
604
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160
[Jon] I mean, nobody has a life
like that, right?
605
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,720
We would love to have
a life like that, right?
606
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,480
But Jill had a life like that.
607
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,160
It's not! It's not. It's not.
608
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:55,120
[both laugh]
609
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,320
Listen, I'm...
Jill, I'm so sorry about this.
610
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,760
I... I find her death still difficult
to come to terms with.
611
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,320
-Do you mind if I whirl her away?
-Oh, you may whirl. I can't believe it.
612
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:10,720
[clicks tongue]
613
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,720
There you go.
614
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,280
None of that inner group of people
was responsible for Jill Dando's murder.
615
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:30,040
And we still didn't have an understanding
of the reason why Jill had been killed.
616
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,040
We had to properly focus down.
617
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,320
[suspenseful music playing]
618
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,000
Who was the man
who had been seen running away?
619
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,160
Who was driving the blue Range Rover?
620
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,360
And who was the sweating man?
621
00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:00,280
[Jeff] I knew by then
from talking to my contacts,
622
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:04,480
that the murder of Jill Dando caused,
you know, huge consternation
623
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,520
within the hierarchy
at Scotland Yard as well
624
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,640
because Jill Dando was perceived
as part of the policing family.
625
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,840
But they were bedeviled by the fact
that they didn't have a suspect.
626
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,280
They didn't have a murder weapon.
627
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,000
[Hamish] Morning.
628
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,080
Are you any closer to knowing either
a suspect or a motive for this killing?
629
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,080
We don't know the person
who killed Jill Dando at this time
630
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,360
and we're trying to establish
a motive as to why she was killed.
631
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,240
And our main inquiry focuses
on determining the motive.
632
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Once we establish the motive, we will be
able to move forward more rapidly
633
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,840
as to who the suspect or suspects are.
634
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:39,960
[indistinct chatter]
635
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,440
The red-top news business
won't tolerate a vacuum, right?
636
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,960
They want information.
They've got pages to fill.
637
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,880
I could see the clouds
gathering on the horizon
638
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,240
and I knew, unless they
solved this crime really quickly,
639
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,080
it was only a short matter of time
640
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,800
before we started to become deluged
with all sorts of theories.
641
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520
[gripping music playing]
642
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,480
[reporter] In the absence of
any obvious motive for the attack,
643
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,840
speculation, and it is only that,
focuses on a possible stalker.
644
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,920
Jill Dando had had problems
with obsessive fans in the past,
645
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,120
as one close colleague recalls.
646
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,800
{\an8}I don't think she was in any sense,
in fear of, certainly not in mortal fear
647
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,160
{\an8}of anything happening to her.
She was irritated from time to time.
648
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:36,120
Uh, there had been somebody stalking her.
649
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,320
Um, I mean, to be honest,
that's really, it goes with the turf.
650
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,800
Anyone who is in the public eye,
and Jill was in the public eye
651
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,080
more than almost anybody,
um, does have certain threats.
652
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,760
We used to get all the mail
coming to our office.
653
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,160
Some mail might be a little bit eh-eh,
654
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,760
so you had to be careful
and just take some of these letters away.
655
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,680
But they weren't threatening,
they were just, well, you know.
656
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,600
There's a lot of perverts out there.
657
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,000
But then we received a letter
from somebody claiming to be a Serb.
658
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,240
It was in relation to the appeal
659
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,040
that Jill had given
earlier that month for Kosovo.
660
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,920
{\an8}This weekend we've all become aware
661
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,640
{\an8}of the humanitarian crisis
facing the Balkans,
662
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:26,480
{\an8}as thousands of people from Kosovo...
663
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,200
[Jon] The letter seemed to be
somewhat threatening.
664
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,320
Whatever you can afford can make
a big difference to these people's lives
665
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,360
and their chances of survival.
666
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,920
[Jeff] The Balkan War had been going on
in the former Yugoslavia,
667
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,480
you know, which had split
into various states,
668
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,160
you know, Serbia and Kosovo and so forth.
669
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,600
It was a very horrible war.
670
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:52,720
So, when it started to emerge
that her agent had a threatening letter...
671
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:58,640
Then the BBC started
to get threats by telephone.
672
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:00,960
The hair on the back of my neck stood up.
673
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,720
[male reporter 1] The murder of one of
the country's best-known TV personalities
674
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,320
has taken a frightening turn.
675
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,760
[male reporter 2] The TV center where
Jill Dando worked received a phone call.
676
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,160
It was from a man claiming to be Serbian,
677
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,680
saying he was behind the star's death.
678
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,280
[theme music playing]