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[woman 1] All right,
there are news people here.
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It is the auction
of Alex Murdaugh's stuff.
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We're here.
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There's the turtle lamps.
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{\an8}And some of Maggie's dishes.
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[auctioneer] Twenty-five.
Got to be able to get 25.
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Twenty-five, got to be able
to get 25, and 30...
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{\an8}[woman 2] Hundreds of items are here
at the Liberty Auction House,
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and they are set for auction
this Thursday.
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Owners say they are expecting
the largest turnout they've ever seen.
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About 700 people registered
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{\an8}to bid on items from the Murdaugh's
now infamous Moselle property.
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{\an8}But there was
one piece of decor in particular
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{\an8}that caught the eye of many people.
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{\an8}I'm over here by the, um, turtle lamps.
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{\an8}We could not leave without one.
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{\an8}[Morgan] When the auction was going on,
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{\an8}I saw they were selling off
Ms. Maggie's turtle shells.
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And, like, she collected them,
and she had them just, like, hanging.
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Ms. Maggie knew how to decorate.
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That house was so, like,
welcoming and cozy,
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and every little detail was perfect.
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{\an8}Ms. Maggie put so much,
like, thought behind it.
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{\an8}It broke my heart just to see it sold.
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[auctioneer gabbles]
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[auctioneer gabbles]
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[man] So guys, here it is, Maggie
Murdaugh's bicycle, along with more...
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There's a pair of Alex's coveralls.
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[woman 3] The day before the auction,
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I was able to go in,
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and they allowed me
to scout out the merchandise.
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{\an8}One of the more eerie things
that I purchased was a vacuum cleaner.
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The vacuum cleaner was about $50.
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But, eerily,
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it comes with an original vacuum bag
that is very full.
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I've been tempted to open it
to see the content, but I have not yet.
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At the time of the auction,
the auctioneer, he held up a camera bag,
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started the bidding,
and I just kept my card up
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and never knew till the very end
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that 704 was the winner
of this camera bag.
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It wasn't until later
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that I took the memory card
in their camera
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and started to see
the images were actually on there,
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of vacations and parties at home.
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Most of the images
do seem to be that of happier times.
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It's hard to imagine for anyone
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that a husband would murder
his wife and son in such a brutal way.
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I'll be honest,
I found it hard to believe myself.
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Especially after seeing the photos.
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[agent 1] Nope.
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-Those aren't the same.
-[agent 2] This is what's in the pump.
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[agent 1] This was in the pump.
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[agent 2] I found, uh...
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.300 in another box.
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[agent 1] Didn't find
any cocaine or nothing.
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[agent 2] We ain't here for dope.
We got a homicide.
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[agent 1] Yeah.
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[agent 2] Yeah, .300, yup.
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[Blanca] I got a call from Alex.
I believe it was 6, 6:30 in the morning.
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He sounded like he was upset.
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{\an8}He said, "B, they're gone, they're gone."
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{\an8}And, uh, I said,
"Well, what do you mean they're gone?"
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He said, "They're dead, B."
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I said, "What?"
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"Maggie and Paul are dead."
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I went into shock.
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Alex said, "B, are you there?"
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I was like, "Yeah, I'm... I'm... I'm here,"
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and he says, "There's probably gonna be
a lot of people coming by the house."
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He said, "You mind straightening up?
You know, cleaning up a bit?"
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I said, "Well, let me know if there's
anything else I need to take care of."
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I had to change hats at that point
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and, um, do what I had to do.
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He asked if I could straighten up, 'cause
there were gonna be people coming over,
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and, you know, her mom and her sister
and her dad were coming.
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You know, I just wanted to make sure
everything was straightened out
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just the way Maggie always made sure
when they were coming to visit.
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Before I went, he said,
"Don't go in the kennel side."
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"Go in on the other side because
there's a lot of SLED agents out there."
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When I arrived,
there was a crew working out there.
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Nobody said anything to me.
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Nobody called me to say,
"Hey, what are you doing?"
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I walked straight,
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got out of my truck,
walked to the front door,
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unlocked the door, went in.
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I turned and I walked towards the kitchen.
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I looked and I was like,
"I wonder where the pots are?"
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'Cause they weren't in the sink.
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And I opened up the refrigerator,
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and all the pots and the pans
were in the refrigerator with the lids.
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And I was like, "That's odd. They..."
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"They don't..."
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"They don't do this."
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As I went through the kitchen,
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and I went to the left,
I noticed her pajamas
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in the middle of the doorway,
laid out neatly.
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-[man] Was that unusual?
-[Blanca] That was very unusual.
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She wouldn't lay
her clothes out like that.
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Not in the middle of the door like that.
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He shouldn't have been worried
about a house being tidied.
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{\an8}I just thought it was strange
that he asked her to come over to tidy up.
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{\an8}Kind of like cleaning up the crime scene.
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{\an8}The next morning,
Moselle was a free-for-all.
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There were people
all out at the crime scene.
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Including John Marvin,
the youngest of the brothers.
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[agent 2] How you doing, sir?
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[attorney] Did SLED agents come through
and search it while you were present?
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[John Marvin] They did. I don't know
how long I'd been back up there.
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{\an8}They came and... And we kinda talked
in the, uh, playroom.
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I think someone
described it as "the gun room."
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Um, yeah, they talked about they needed to
come in the house and search for things.
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They will bring the, um...
bring Paul and Ms. Maggie back home.
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'Cause there are two people,
it will take a little bit longer.
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They will be able to return.
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[attorney] How long did you stay down
adjacent to the crime scene?
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-Do you recall?
-[John Marvin] Quite some time.
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[attorney] What was Alex's condition?
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Oh, he was... he was just broken.
I mean, distraught.
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Everybody was. There were a few
other people there, but... but he just...
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All we did is hugged and cried.
I mean, we didn't...
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I don't even know that we talked.
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[attorney] Did you eventually
go down to the kennels?
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[John Marvin] I did. I needed
to see for myself what... what had gone on
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and just, you know,
just kind of take it in.
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I will say this. Before I went,
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I was... I was unsure
whether I was allowed to go,
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because I knew it was a crime scene.
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And so I reached out
to a friend of mine in law enforcement.
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{\an8}Uh, I believe it was Michael Paul
had given the... the okay to go there.
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[attorney] Was it cleaned up?
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Um, no, Jim, it was not cleaned up.
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When you're talking about
a massive bloody crime scene,
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{\an8}the State will pick up a lot of the costs
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to clean up your crime scene.
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Those services were offered to the family,
and they were turned down.
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[John Marvin] I saw blood.
I saw brains. I saw pieces of skull.
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I don't know what I was... It was terrible.
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And for some reason, I thought it was my...
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Something that... that I needed to do
for Paul, to clean it up.
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It felt like it was the right thing to do.
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I felt like I owed him.
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[Kenneth] In my humble opinion,
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the... the job of an independent expert
is to tell the truth,
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as much as you know it,
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and convey that evidence
to the men and women of the jury.
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And it doesn't have to be
the magic fingerprint machine
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or the magic footprint machine.
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You know, you can do a lot
with good camera gear
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and a measuring device
and, uh, good documentation.
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The evidence will point you
in the right direction.
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It's just whether you make
the right inference or not is what counts,
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and I... I believe we saw
some of that in this case.
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[Alan] As we got
further into the investigation,
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the defense's theory of the case
was presented to us.
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They tried to prove,
because there were two guns,
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{\an8}Alex Murdaugh could not have been
the singular killer.
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{\an8}There had to be two shooters.
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I was frustrated by it,
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so I started talking to Kenny Kinsey
if it was even plausible.
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[Kenneth] I went to the scene.
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My job was to verify what was reported.
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What is the order
of the shotgun wounds to Paul?
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Where's the shooter positioned?
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I was hired by the AG
to answer those questions.
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They knew there were not one
but two guns there
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because of the different shell casings
found on the ground.
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There's a couple of ways to look at it,
but I do believe there's one shooter.
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I think if it was two people,
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it would have been a lot more efficient
than the way it was carried out.
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A re-enactment's gonna show
the things that you can prove.
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It had to happen this way
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because you've got
all this circumstantial activity.
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I didn't create this,
but I have seen similar animations.
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This one is pretty historically accurate.
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In my opinion, Paul was the first victim.
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He was a capable young man, pretty strong.
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To be frank and honest,
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I think he would have fought back
if he wasn't first.
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He certainly wouldn't have let
his mother be victimized
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without at least trying to fight back.
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He was standing
about midway in the feed room.
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He was initially shot one time.
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He walked toward the door
of the feed room.
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Whoever pulled the trigger on that shotgun
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was probably greatly surprised
that Paul was still standing.
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So at that point in time,
you've got one option.
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Use the second shell
that's in the shotgun to finish the job.
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Paul received that second and fatal wound
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as his upper body
was just outside that doorway.
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The second victim was Ms. Maggie Murdaugh.
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She was not killed with the same weapon
that Paul was killed with.
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She was shot with a rifle.
A .300 Blackout, specifically.
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The circumstances
from where they found Ms. Maggie
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would tell you
that she was going towards that feed room.
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Ms. Maggie encountered the shooter.
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We don't know which shots hit Ms. Maggie,
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but we know
that three of them were non-fatal.
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One to Ms. Maggie's left thigh
and the one to her abdomen,
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which takes her down
on her hands and knees.
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It's the first fatal one,
delivered while she's down,
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that just caused her body to collapse.
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She never moved again.
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At that point,
the shooter repositioned behind her.
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Although she was already deceased,
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the final shot
was into the... the top of her head.
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The Murdaughs owned lots of weapons,
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and they owned several shotguns.
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They owned, in particular,
several .300 Blackout rifles.
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{\an8}I think that the two weapons
were intended to create this illusion,
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{\an8}to manufacture this alibi
that "it can't be me."
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{\an8}"I couldn't have done it.
It had to be two people."
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[reporter] Alex,
how are you feeling today?
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[Valerie] During the trial,
the defense wanted to send a message,
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to make sure that the jury knew
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that the Murdaughs were
on Alex's side and behind him.
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{\an8}So the defense calls Alex's surviving son,
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{\an8}Buster Murdaugh, to the stand.
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{\an8}Buster, I want to now talk about
the weekends leading up to June 7th.
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{\an8}If you could play
defense exhibit 61, please.
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It's in evidence.
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[all on video] {\an8}♪ ...to you ♪
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{\an8}♪ Happy birthday to you! ♪
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{\an8}♪ Happy birthday, dear Alex! ♪
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♪ Happy birthday to you! ♪
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-[Alex] Thank y'all so much.
-[man] Yay!
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It was a normal Memorial Day weekend
at Edisto with your family and friends?
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That's right.
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Well, that's not true.
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There was a lot going on at that time.
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One weekend prior to the murders,
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I had talked to Maggie.
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She said, "Paul got in trouble again."
I said, "What do you mean?"
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"He was on the boat with friends,
and they were drinking."
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She said that they called Alex.
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She said, "I think he said
he was gonna take care of it."
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[tense music plays]
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DNR had stopped him
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{\an8}with a boat full of people
already drinking,
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{\an8}with a cooler full of booze,
ready to go out on the water.
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DNR held him back
and took all the booze off the boat.
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You would think
someone who would be appearing in court
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to decide whether he'd be going to jail
for killing someone from a boat crash
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just two years before
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would not be still
found on a boat partying.
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It makes you wonder
if it was another pressure point for Alex,
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knowing that he couldn't control
anything that Paul did.
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It just added to the pressures
that were mounting up in Alex's life.
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[David Owen] All right, sir.
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Um, so when we spoke the other night,
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I got kind of a basic overview.
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-Yes, sir.
-Um, and it was pretty traumatic.
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That's okay. I know you need to ask me.
You ask me what you need to.
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So I just... I want you to...
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Let's start Monday morning,
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and... and take me through your day.
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[Alex] Monday morning,
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I went to work.
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I left a little bit earlier than normal
because my son Paul was coming home.
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[tense music plays]
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[Alex] We were gonna
replant some sunflowers the next day.
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We rode the property, just...
just bullshitting.
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Looking for hogs.
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Little bit of target shooting.
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I think he shot two times
and I shot one time.
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[gunshot]
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[tense music continues]
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[laughter]
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[Alex] Better than it was.
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It was more than an hour, probably.
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Mama wasn't home yet.
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She had gone to a doctor's appointment.
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At some point, we were
all back at the house together.
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Maggie had gotten home.
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[tense music continues]
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[Alex] We hung around the house
for a little while.
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Maggie and Paul went to the kennels.
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Normal occasion, they would drive.
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Drive a buggy, drive a four-wheeler,
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or very common to walk.
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I stayed in the house.
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I was watching TV.
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I actually fell asleep on the couch.
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One of the first things I did
when I got up was call Maggie
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because I was going to my mom's.
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I texted her at, like, 9:06.
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She didn't answer at that point,
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and I left to go to my mom's.
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Checked on my mom,
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talked with Shelly for a few minutes.
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[tense music continues]
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[Alex] I left my mom's.
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I know I called some people on the way.
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I know I returned a call
from my brother John.
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I know that I talked to Buster.
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I went back home.
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I got to the house.
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Nobody was there.
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I got in the car.
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I went back to the kennels,
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and I saw Maggie
and I saw Paul laying down. I knew...
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I knew it was bad,
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and I called 911.
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[Valerie] When the interview happened,
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Alex and his family
were at John Marvin's property.
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As I understand it, Randolph had just left
the hospital and went to see Alex
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to give a word of encouragement
and to check in on things.
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Randolph was very frail
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and was understandably very sad.
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While the interviews were being conducted,
Randolph went home.
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He died later that same day.
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You know, and that's devastating,
not just for Alex, but the brothers.
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It was an immense catalog of loss
in just a matter of days.
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All three, Randolph III, Maggie, and Paul,
are buried on the same weekend.
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[Blanca] In my Bible,
I still have her obituary.
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Maggie and I had a conversation.
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We were just joking around.
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We said when we get old and gray,
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Maggie said,
"I'm gonna sing at your funeral."
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And I said, "Well, I'll sing at yours."
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I said, "Whichever one.
But we're gonna be old and gray."
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Um, I said, "We'll have plenty...
plenty of time to learn the song."
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She wanted "Amazing Grace."
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And, um...
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And we left it at that.
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[Morgan] The night that he passed away,
I didn't even know he had passed away.
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I just remember I had just cooked dinner
and I was just cleaning up,
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and, like, I had thought about Paul.
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[tense music plays]
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{\an8}And I felt like he would be, like,
really glad to see where I'm at in life.
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{\an8}And then the next day, I woke up
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{\an8}and got the call from my mom
that he had passed away.
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It sounds so crazy.
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I was like... I feel like
he, like, visited me,
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I don't know, on his passing journey.
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[tense music fades]
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[train horn blares]
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[Valerie] After the funerals,
late June, July, early August,
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{\an8}there was an early statement that there
was no harm to the public, no danger.
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{\an8}That was it. There was no details
about how Maggie and Paul were killed,
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any possible suspects.
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It was just silent.
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[Alan] During the investigation,
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we were trying to put together
Alex's timeline and confirm his story.
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He said he went to Almeda that night
to visit his mother.
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The only other person
he claims he spoke to
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was his mother's caretaker, Shelly,
so we decided to contact her.
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[tense music plays]
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[Creighton] As a lawyer,
we can make people testify.
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But we want people to get up
and tell their part of the story
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and understand that they have
an obligation to justice
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and that justice depends on people
willing to take that brave step
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and to get up there and tell their story.
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In this case, it's gonna be on, you know,
national, international television.
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[tense music continues]
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[Shelly] Momma always said,
"Tell the truth if it hurts."
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I'm grateful I had a good support team,
my children, my son and my daughters.
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{\an8}My children were my lifeline.
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{\an8}[music fades]
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{\an8}[attorney] The State of South Carolina
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{\an8}will now call Ms. Michelle Smith
to the stand.
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{\an8}[Shelly] My life changed
when I took the stand.
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It taught me
the true meaning of being honest.
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Ms. Smith, please tell these folks
about the night of June 7th.
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[Shelly] On June 7th, I came to work
that night at Ms. Libby's house.
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Just a normal night.
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At about 9:30, Alex called me.
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He said, "Shelly, I'm outside."
I was like, "Okay."
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I went to the back, let him in.
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Alex came to check on his mom,
let her know his dad was in the hospital,
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but she was asleep.
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He was acting very strange. Like fidgety.
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So he watched a TV show with me
for a little bit.
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He said, "I'm getting ready to go,"
and he left.
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The next day, after the murders,
Alex came to the house to talk to me.
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He said that, "If someone
asks you that I was there,
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just say I was here
about 30 to 40 minutes."
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That's not true. He was here 20 minutes.
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What was he telling you about
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that he was at the house
the night of the murders?
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That he'd been there 30-40 minutes.
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We're sitting there, and it felt like
everyone was pulling for Shelly,
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'cause it was so visibly difficult
for her to be up there.
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[attorney] Why are you crying?
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Because they're a good... a good family,
and I love working there,
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and I'm sorry all this happened.
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I felt bad for Ms. Shelly.
You could see that she was upset.
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{\an8}I just think
that she was afraid to testify,
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{\an8}but she knew
that she had to tell the truth,
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{\an8}and that's what she got up there and did.
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She didn't let Alex
convince her on that time.
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She stuck to her time.
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It became clear
in the course of her testimony
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that she'd been very scared,
and she'd confided in these family members
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that she had doubts
about what Alex Murdaugh
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was asking her to say,
and that's why they were there.
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00:24:30,469 --> 00:24:34,514
We had a brother-sister conversation
because he's a police officer.
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So like, "It's okay. You know,
just tell the truth. You know, that's it."
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"Just tell the truth. Be honest."
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[attorney] He wasn't there
30 or 40 minutes, was he?
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No. No.
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It was unbelievable to me.
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It became clear to us
that Alex went over to Almeda
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to establish an alibi.
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He lied about the length of time
he was there
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to make it seem like he wasn't home
at the time of the murders.
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[Shelly] It seemed I was the only one that
night that Maggie and Paul was murdered,
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so that's why Alex asked me,
considered me to be the alibi.
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I couldn't believe it.
It was... it was a shock.
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He thought I was going to be on his side,
but I'm not going to lie.
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[Blanca] After the funeral
with Paul and Maggie,
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Alex called me and said,
"I need to ask you a favor."
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"I want to know if you and Michael,"
my husband, "can move into Moselle."
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At that point, he was staying in Almeda.
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We thought we were doing our part
to help him out.
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That first night,
it was kind of scary to stay out there.
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[Kenneth] The Moselle property,
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for some that have
never experienced total darkness,
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this is a new definition of dark.
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[Blanca] Even though they put out a
bulletin saying that there was no danger,
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we didn't know if somebody was gonna
break in, thinking there was nobody there.
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00:26:07,691 --> 00:26:09,401
We were still talking about
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just the devastation
of the actual murders happening
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and nothing really being done
as far as finding out who was involved.
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Would they still be looking out
to search for Alex and Buster?
433
00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:27,419
But it seemed as if Alex and Buster
were out living their life.
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I remember seeing them
at Edisto on Facebook,
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and going on trips and boat tournaments
down in Edisto for the summer.
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Just living life like normal.
437
00:26:42,642 --> 00:26:45,854
Alex gets back.
He's tanned and has lost a lot of weight.
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Comes into the SLED office in Walterboro
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for what Alex has asked for,
which is an update on the case.
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What they later say
they think is an informational interview.
441
00:26:59,951 --> 00:27:02,579
Alex, I appreciate
you coming in today. Um...
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00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:05,165
-Glad to do anything.
-I understand.
443
00:27:05,248 --> 00:27:08,752
Um, I know we got a lot to talk about.
I know you have millions of questions.
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00:27:08,835 --> 00:27:09,878
-Yes, sir.
-Um...
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But before we get started
with your questions,
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this has been going on
for over two months,
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and we've done a lot of work.
448
00:27:20,263 --> 00:27:21,139
I know you have.
449
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[David] I've got some more questions
that I need to get clarifications on.
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One thing that I'm trying to understand
is your timeline.
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What time did Paul get home that night?
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00:27:33,610 --> 00:27:35,820
Um, me and Paul...
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got there about the same time.
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[tense music plays]
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00:27:46,206 --> 00:27:48,124
[laughter on video]
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[Alex] Better than it was.
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There is a video of, uh, you and him
on the farm that night.
458
00:27:55,215 --> 00:27:57,467
And you were in khaki pants
and a dress shirt.
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00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:00,845
You were playing with a tree.
460
00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:06,851
-I don't remember playing with a tree.
-[David] Yeah. Um...
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00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:09,729
But, I mean, the... the question of that is,
462
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when I met you that night,
you were in shorts and a T-shirt.
463
00:28:12,857 --> 00:28:15,402
At what point in the evening
did you change clothes?
464
00:28:19,989 --> 00:28:21,074
I'm not sure. I...
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00:28:21,991 --> 00:28:23,368
You know, it would've been...
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00:28:25,161 --> 00:28:27,664
-Before dinner? After dinner?
-No, it would have been...
467
00:28:29,416 --> 00:28:33,086
What time of day was that? I would have
thought I'd already changed. [sniffs]
468
00:28:33,169 --> 00:28:36,464
Uh, there's not a timestamp on it,
because there's so many posts.
469
00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:39,634
Um, but I want to say
it looks to be about dusk.
470
00:28:40,719 --> 00:28:42,846
So that would've been 7:30, eight o'clock.
471
00:28:44,472 --> 00:28:46,808
I guess I changed
when I got back to the house.
472
00:28:49,185 --> 00:28:51,938
It was fascinating, 'cause David Owen
was presenting him with evidence.
473
00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:55,734
"Yes, you were wearing something different
than you were later that night."
474
00:28:55,817 --> 00:28:57,694
"When did you shower?
When did you change?"
475
00:28:58,194 --> 00:29:01,114
The most important night of your life,
and Alex doesn't recall.
476
00:29:01,197 --> 00:29:03,199
[tense music plays]
477
00:29:04,325 --> 00:29:07,829
[Blanca] August 20th, 2021,
Alex approached me.
478
00:29:08,788 --> 00:29:10,915
He said, "B, come in here.
I need to talk to you."
479
00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:13,251
"Come here and sit down." And I was...
480
00:29:13,793 --> 00:29:17,130
First of all, for him to tell me
to sit down and sit still...
481
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:19,340
You know, he never stood in one place,
482
00:29:19,424 --> 00:29:22,177
and it was kind of hard
to get a full conversation from him
483
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:23,511
because he's always busy.
484
00:29:24,095 --> 00:29:26,598
When he asked me that,
I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna sit down."
485
00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:30,185
So I sat down
and I said, "What's going on?"
486
00:29:30,268 --> 00:29:33,813
He said, "You remember
what I was wearing that day?"
487
00:29:34,397 --> 00:29:36,566
Meaning the day
Maggie and Paul were killed.
488
00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:41,780
I found it kind of odd.
I do remember what he was wearing.
489
00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:44,407
But I didn't wanna say anything.
490
00:29:44,908 --> 00:29:46,451
But he pressed on, you know,
491
00:29:46,534 --> 00:29:49,078
"You remember, you know,
the shirt and this?"
492
00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:51,748
He said, "I just got a bad feeling."
493
00:29:52,832 --> 00:29:56,628
At that point,
I didn't know what he was talking about,
494
00:29:56,711 --> 00:29:58,922
because I didn't know
that there was a video.
495
00:30:00,548 --> 00:30:02,801
I just thought
he was just grieving, you know.
496
00:30:03,551 --> 00:30:07,055
It still puzzled me a lot
that he would ask me something like that.
497
00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:09,390
But it was just a feeling that I got
498
00:30:09,474 --> 00:30:14,562
when he made mention of that,
you know, again and again.
499
00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:17,190
-A few more questions.
-Okay.
500
00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:21,027
-Did you kill Maggie?
-No. Did I kill my wife?
501
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:22,570
-[David] Yes, sir.
-No, David.
502
00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:26,950
-[David] Do you know who did?
-No, I do not know who did.
503
00:30:29,202 --> 00:30:31,830
-Did you kill Paul?
-No, I did not kill Paul.
504
00:30:32,455 --> 00:30:35,250
-Do you know who did?
-No, sir, I do not know who did.
505
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:37,418
Do you think I killed Maggie?
506
00:30:42,006 --> 00:30:43,842
I have to go
where evidence and facts take me.
507
00:30:43,925 --> 00:30:44,968
[Alex] I understand that.
508
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,305
And you think I killed Paul?
509
00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:52,100
I have to go
where the evidence and the facts take me,
510
00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:57,564
and I don't have anything
that points to anybody else at this time.
511
00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:02,318
So does that mean that I am a suspect?
512
00:31:02,902 --> 00:31:04,404
[David] You are still in this.
513
00:31:08,157 --> 00:31:10,118
[Alan] Within a couple of days
of that meeting
514
00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:11,953
with the senior leadership of SLED,
515
00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:15,582
his entire world was starting to unravel.
516
00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:18,251
[telephone rings]
517
00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:22,005
[man] A telephone conference interview
of Alex Murdaugh.
518
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:24,048
9/13/21.
519
00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:26,050
[Jim Griffin] This is Jim.
520
00:31:26,134 --> 00:31:30,096
[Ryan] Hey, Jim. This is Ryan Kelly and
Jomar Albayalde with SLED. How are you?
521
00:31:30,179 --> 00:31:32,390
-[Jim] Hey, Ryan and Joe.
-[Ryan] Yes.
522
00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:37,145
[Jim] We're in an office
with Alex and Dick,
523
00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:41,149
and, um, I'm just gonna put the phone
here on the table next to Alex.
524
00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:44,277
-[Alex] I was in a very bad place.
-[Jim] What does that mean?
525
00:31:44,777 --> 00:31:47,780
[Alex] I thought it would be
better for me not to be here anymore.
526
00:31:47,864 --> 00:31:51,743
I thought that it would make it
easier on my family
527
00:31:52,744 --> 00:31:54,078
for me to be dead.
528
00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:57,248
-[Dick] So you decided to end your life?
-[Alex] That's correct.
529
00:31:57,749 --> 00:32:00,668
I called Curtis Eddie Smith
on the telephone.
530
00:32:00,752 --> 00:32:02,378
[Dick] Who's Curtis Eddie Smith?
531
00:32:03,087 --> 00:32:05,214
Eddie Smith was called
"the fourth Murdaugh."
532
00:32:05,798 --> 00:32:09,052
He helped clean up
whatever they needed cleaning up.
533
00:32:09,135 --> 00:32:11,596
Eddie Smith was rumored
to be Alex's drug dealer.
534
00:32:12,096 --> 00:32:16,351
They were involved together in drugs,
financial fraud, cashing of checks.
535
00:32:16,434 --> 00:32:17,810
Was he involved in the murders?
536
00:32:17,894 --> 00:32:19,896
[tense music plays]
537
00:32:22,106 --> 00:32:25,109
[interviewer] Did you shoot either of
those people on the property of Moselle?
538
00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:28,655
[music fades]
539
00:32:31,366 --> 00:32:32,742
[tense music plays]
540
00:33:31,634 --> 00:33:32,677
[music fades]