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How do you know
when you've met "The One"?

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That's the question
we'll be addressing this week.

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I'm Serena Shephard.

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Thank you for making
Love's Listening

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the number one romance podcast
in America.

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We have Charlie on the line.

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Hello?

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I can't believe
I'm actually on the show!

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I listen to you every week,

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your advice has changed my life.

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I'm honored!

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So, Charlie, do you think
you've met "The One"?

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I don't know.

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How could you tell?

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The simplest way to know

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is if that person
makes you feel

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like the best version
of yourself.

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What do you think, Charlie?

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Is love on the line for you?

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♪

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[cell phone buzzing]

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Serena, I'm here.

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Have you seen this?

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I go through one breakup

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and they question
my entire brand?

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It's just one tabloid.

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It's lighting up socials, too!

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A complete nightmare,

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I can't believe
Brandon would do this.

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We agreed we would stay together
for the Podcast Awards,

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then tastefully break the news
on each other's platforms.

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Absolutely disrespectful!

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I don't think
that Brandon would--

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You think it was his sister?

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She never liked me,
that monster.

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I'm America's
number one authority

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on relationships,
for crying out loud!

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I can't afford to go through
a public breakup right now.

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I know you're single
and you wouldn't understand

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what the heartache is like.

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Well, I've had relationships
before.

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I'm hemorrhaging followers!

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You can bet that
this is gonna affect appearances

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and brand partnerships, too!

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It's only a matter of time
before I'm completely finished.

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You'll get through it.

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I'll help.

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You want to talk
about the new segment?

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Yes. Take off your assistant cap

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and put on your writer's beret
and thrill me!

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So for the Spring Fever segment,

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I have a breakdown
of all the symbolism

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of different types
of flowers and...

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um, okay.

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Best places to get caught
in the rain?

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[groaning]

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Uh, hmm.

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How about
redefining spring romance,

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as in "more than
a spring fling"?

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With a feature on
picking the perfect time

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for a first kiss?

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Yes. That's it.

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That's the one.

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Write that up tonight.

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We need fresh material ASAP.

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First we'll get everyone's mind
off of this breakup nonsense,

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and then we'll finally get
our recognition

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at the National Podcast Awards.

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Sounds like a plan.

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Once we win,
I'll be crediting you

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as co-writer and producer.

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Don't think I've forgotten.

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Thank you, Serena.

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[grumbling]

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[chuckling humorlessly]

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♪

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Finally.

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Producer and writer, Abby Roig.

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[telephone ringing]

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Good morning!

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Love's Listening
Production Offices,

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this is Abby.

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This is Jack Whitman

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with The Times Daily
in New York.

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♪

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Jack Whitman?

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Yes.

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I'm calling to confirm
my 10 a.m. tomorrow

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with Serena Shephard.

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We set this time
several weeks ago,

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but I haven't heard
any follow-up since.

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Um, I'm so sorry.

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Tomorrow, 10 a.m. you said.

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Correct, at Verde.

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Please confirm with her,
I'm set to fly out tonight

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and I don't want to waste
any more of my time on this.

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Yes, uh,
I'll go confirm with her.

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Please hold.

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♪

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I'm creating content!

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What is it?

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I'm sorry,

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Jack Whitman is calling
to confirm a meeting

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tomorrow at 10 a.m.

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♪

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Jack Whitman, he's a journalist

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at The Times Daily.

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In New York?

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Is he hot?

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I guess so.

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I don't know.

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Wait, it's coming back to me.

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Yes, I definitely told you
about this.

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Uh, no.

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I would have put this
in your calendar immediately.

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No, you're mistaken.

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Anyway, it doesn't matter.

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Go ahead and confirm.

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I'm so sorry
to keep you waiting.

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Yes, are we confirmed or not?

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Yes, we're confirmed.

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Ms. Shephard is
so looking forward--

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[phone beeping]

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Hello?

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Hello?

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Who hangs up on someone?

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♪

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You totally broke
my creative flow.

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I'm sorry.

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Oh, is that him?

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Mm-hm!

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Ah, he is attractive!

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Why is he wasting
a face like that

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on newspaper journalism?

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Although I could ask
the same of myself.

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Who would've thought this face

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would be hiding
behind sound waves

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90% of the time?

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[chuckling]

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[gasping]

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He would be
the perfect arm candy

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to escort me
to the Podcast Awards!

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Smart and handsome?

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Picture this, "Serena Shephard,
Single No More."

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It's perfect!

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♪

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Hm?

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Yes, it's perfect.

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Yeah.

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♪

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A relationship guru? Really?

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I am not even sold
on relationships,

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and you want me
to profile a guru?

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It's humiliating.

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Maybe she can help you
unpack some of that baggage

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you've been dragging around
since your breakup.

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Not likely.

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I've known you long enough
to expect healthy skepticism

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when it comes to
matters of the heart,

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but I also expect you to bring
that dogged curiosity

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that makes you
such a brilliant writer!

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I know, but--

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Don't let
your bad experience with love

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make you think
that this is beneath you.

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Love comes for us all, Jack.

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You sound like a fortune cookie.

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Embrace the challenge.

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Enjoy a few days by the beach,

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tour the studio.

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And get insight into
her production style and POV.

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I know you're
less than thrilled,

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but this is a scoop.

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So go.

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Scoop!

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♪

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Oh, Aunt Abby, can I take
Bentley to the tree house?

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Sure, Lucy,
just don't drop him, okay?

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Or Serena will kill me.

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[chuckling]

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She's such a cool kid.

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I know.

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I mean, almost too cool.

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I'm glad she got our genes
and not Matt's.

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Aw, be nice!

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I love my brother-in-law,

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but I'm glad that
she didn't inherit

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his sense of humor.

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I thank the universe every day.

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[chuckling]

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Abs, it's not really a break

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if you spend it
walking Serena's dog.

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Well, I get to take
a longer lunch break,

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because I'm multitasking.

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What?

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I don't know why
you're always defending her.

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You guys were peers in college.

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She was older than me.

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She treats you terribly.

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I get to pick my office chair?

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And still, after all this time,

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you're just
a glorified assistant.

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Executive Assistant.

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She doesn't even credit you,

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and you write
the whole dang show!

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She will credit me as soon
as we win the Podcast Awards.

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We will win.

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Good, because I need some
award-winning romance advice.

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♪

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Matt wants to buy a house,

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but I love our neighborhood,

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and there's no way
that we could afford

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to buy anything in the area.

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You are a creature of habits.

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Famously.

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Plus my business
is still growing.

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It's stressful.

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What was just a few arguments

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is really starting
to cause a rift.

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♪

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You're going to be
a very famous designer,

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and I get that part.

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What are the upsides?

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Well, more space, obviously.

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I could have an actual office
with a real drafting table.

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We would have a yard
and Lucy could get a dog.

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She can have Serena's.

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[laughing]

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Aunt Abby, look!

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Oh, watch out, just be careful!

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Come down already!

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♪

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With change comes a lot of fear,

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but you just have to visualize
the best case scenario

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and maybe the change
can bring you

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a new creative energy.

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New environment,
new perspective.

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Just be honest with Matt.

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You guys are a team,

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and he's probably anxious, too.

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That's great advice, thank you.

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You should have
your own podcast.

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Oh! Matt still has all
of his audio equipment

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from when he went through that
start-a-band midlife crisis,

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you should take it,
please, I'm begging you.

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No, I don't even have time
for my own lunch break.

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I want to--no, nobody cares
what I have to say.

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My life isn't aspirational.

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You're authentic.

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Glitz isn't everything.

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I mean, look at Serena.

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She has a miserable life.

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But she appears to be fabulous.

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I appear to be a mess,
a single mess.

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And nobody wants advice
from a single mess.

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Abby, Brad was two years ago.

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You gotta get out there.

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Don't let one unfaithful jerk
drive you to be single forever.

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Tonight when you get home,
put all of his stuff in a box.

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- I don't--
- Do not pretend

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you don't still have
some of Brad's stuff.

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I know you do.

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Put it in a box, reflect,
and toss it.

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Fresh start.

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You deserve someone
who deserves you.

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Look who's giving
great advice now.

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I wish.

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It's from a podcast.

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You should know it.

274
00:11:21,957 --> 00:11:24,097
- I wrote it.
- You wrote it.

275
00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:27,031
Abby, I need you!

276
00:11:27,169 --> 00:11:29,758
♪

277
00:11:29,896 --> 00:11:31,829
Is this our new merchandise?

278
00:11:31,967 --> 00:11:34,348
Yes, just hideous.

279
00:11:34,486 --> 00:11:36,005
I wish our listeners
had some taste,

280
00:11:36,143 --> 00:11:39,906
but whatever brings in
the bucks, right?

281
00:11:40,044 --> 00:11:41,493
What else do you know
about this reporter

282
00:11:41,631 --> 00:11:43,323
I'm meeting tomorrow?

283
00:11:43,461 --> 00:11:45,359
Jack Whitman?

284
00:11:45,497 --> 00:11:48,259
Um, well, he's been working
for The Times Daily for years,

285
00:11:48,397 --> 00:11:53,195
and he does
his super insightful profiles.

286
00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:56,198
He just had this amazing story
about a researcher

287
00:11:56,336 --> 00:11:58,787
leading
an Indigenous-forward effort

288
00:11:58,925 --> 00:12:00,374
in the rainforests, it's so--

289
00:12:00,512 --> 00:12:01,928
Rainforest?

290
00:12:02,066 --> 00:12:04,551
Feels like such a '90s issue.

291
00:12:04,689 --> 00:12:07,968
Well, it's been a problem
for many, many years.

292
00:12:08,106 --> 00:12:10,039
Sounds like a fixer-upper!

293
00:12:10,177 --> 00:12:11,696
The rainforest?

294
00:12:11,834 --> 00:12:13,560
No, the reporter.

295
00:12:13,698 --> 00:12:15,907
You are so silly.

296
00:12:16,045 --> 00:12:18,703
He'll need to be more now
if he's going to escort me

297
00:12:18,841 --> 00:12:20,809
to the Podcast Awards.

298
00:12:20,947 --> 00:12:22,880
Oh, well, we love a project.

299
00:12:23,018 --> 00:12:24,571
Has he sent over questions?

300
00:12:24,709 --> 00:12:25,883
No.

301
00:12:26,021 --> 00:12:28,126
But I expect him
to be a bit tougher

302
00:12:28,264 --> 00:12:29,714
than what you're used to.

303
00:12:29,852 --> 00:12:33,442
Hm. Not loving that for me.

304
00:12:33,580 --> 00:12:36,479
Fine, write up talking points
I can bring up,

305
00:12:36,617 --> 00:12:40,069
topical things
so he can see how deep I am.

306
00:12:40,207 --> 00:12:45,212
♪

307
00:12:47,525 --> 00:12:57,604
♪

308
00:12:57,742 --> 00:12:59,744
I hate that I miss him.

309
00:12:59,882 --> 00:13:01,090
You know what, I don't miss him.

310
00:13:01,228 --> 00:13:03,541
I miss being with someone.

311
00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,267
Can we just skip
all the hard stuff

312
00:13:05,405 --> 00:13:08,270
and go right into having someone
to watch a movie with?

313
00:13:08,408 --> 00:13:10,099
♪

314
00:13:10,237 --> 00:13:12,446
You're right.

315
00:13:12,584 --> 00:13:16,761
We can do popcorn
and rom-com on our own.

316
00:13:16,899 --> 00:13:19,281
♪

317
00:13:19,419 --> 00:13:22,456
And we can have each other.

318
00:13:22,594 --> 00:13:25,011
This is it.

319
00:13:25,149 --> 00:13:26,840
This is a classic.

320
00:13:26,978 --> 00:13:33,847
♪

321
00:13:33,985 --> 00:13:37,023
[cell phone chiming]

322
00:13:46,653 --> 00:13:49,173
It's too early.

323
00:13:52,383 --> 00:13:54,799
[cell phone continues chiming]

324
00:13:56,628 --> 00:13:58,078
How bad is it?

325
00:13:58,216 --> 00:13:59,666
[gasping]

326
00:13:59,804 --> 00:14:04,360
Oh, I knew it,
this stupid facial!

327
00:14:04,498 --> 00:14:06,293
[crying]

328
00:14:06,431 --> 00:14:08,157
How?

329
00:14:08,295 --> 00:14:11,057
I booked Jasmine, like always.

330
00:14:11,195 --> 00:14:13,714
Did she do something different?

331
00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:17,822
Serena, what happened?

332
00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,272
I don't know.

333
00:14:19,410 --> 00:14:23,828
I added an oregano oil
enhancement, no big deal!

334
00:14:23,966 --> 00:14:25,588
It was for fine lines!

335
00:14:25,726 --> 00:14:28,039
Serena, you're allergic
to oregano.

336
00:14:28,177 --> 00:14:29,592
I can't be responsible
for knowing

337
00:14:29,730 --> 00:14:33,010
every single little one
of my own allergies!

338
00:14:33,148 --> 00:14:34,045
I'm busy!

339
00:14:34,183 --> 00:14:36,185
That's your job!

340
00:14:36,323 --> 00:14:37,566
We have to push the interview.

341
00:14:37,704 --> 00:14:38,981
No, we can't.

342
00:14:39,119 --> 00:14:41,708
It's in one hour
and he flew all the way here.

343
00:14:41,846 --> 00:14:44,711
I can't go like this.

344
00:14:44,849 --> 00:14:45,712
Reschedule!

345
00:14:45,850 --> 00:14:47,369
Charm him, bribe him, whatever,

346
00:14:47,507 --> 00:14:50,751
just don't lose the interview!

347
00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:52,892
You've reached Jack Whitman
with The Times Daily.

348
00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:55,101
Please leave a message
and I'll return your call

349
00:14:55,239 --> 00:14:57,068
at the earliest opportunity.

350
00:14:57,206 --> 00:14:58,656
Hi, Mr. Whitman, this is Abby.

351
00:14:58,794 --> 00:15:01,452
I'm calling on behalf
of Serena Shephard.

352
00:15:01,590 --> 00:15:10,564
♪

353
00:15:10,702 --> 00:15:11,876
Oh, good morning.

354
00:15:12,014 --> 00:15:12,981
Just a soda, please.

355
00:15:13,119 --> 00:15:15,604
Thank you.

356
00:15:15,742 --> 00:15:19,884
[car beeping]

357
00:15:20,022 --> 00:15:20,989
Hi, Mr. Whitman!

358
00:15:21,127 --> 00:15:22,404
This is Abby Roig.

359
00:15:22,542 --> 00:15:24,716
I'm calling on regard
of Serena Shephard.

360
00:15:24,854 --> 00:15:26,718
♪

361
00:15:26,856 --> 00:15:28,410
Thank you very much.

362
00:15:28,548 --> 00:15:40,594
♪

363
00:15:40,732 --> 00:15:42,596
Oh, thank you.

364
00:15:42,734 --> 00:16:01,822
♪

365
00:16:06,827 --> 00:16:09,692
Hi, Mr. Whitman?

366
00:16:09,830 --> 00:16:10,970
Yes.

367
00:16:11,108 --> 00:16:12,109
Do I know you?

368
00:16:12,247 --> 00:16:13,973
No, I mean, yes.

369
00:16:14,111 --> 00:16:15,353
We've spoken on the phone.

370
00:16:15,491 --> 00:16:19,357
I'm Abby Roig,
Serena Shephard's assistant.

371
00:16:19,495 --> 00:16:21,014
I'm so sorry
to keep you waiting,

372
00:16:21,152 --> 00:16:24,155
but I tried to call you and--

373
00:16:24,293 --> 00:16:26,295
anyway, I'm so embarrassed,

374
00:16:26,433 --> 00:16:28,746
but we're going to have
to push the interview.

375
00:16:28,884 --> 00:16:30,368
Serena is dealing
with some conflict

376
00:16:30,506 --> 00:16:32,784
that can't be avoided.

377
00:16:32,922 --> 00:16:34,786
Miss Roig, was it?

378
00:16:34,924 --> 00:16:35,856
Oh, Abby, please.

379
00:16:35,995 --> 00:16:37,306
Abby.

380
00:16:37,444 --> 00:16:40,309
You realize that
I am based in New York City.

381
00:16:40,447 --> 00:16:41,862
Yes, of course.

382
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:44,313
I'm so sorry about that.

383
00:16:44,451 --> 00:16:46,626
Can we reschedule for tonight?

384
00:16:46,764 --> 00:16:48,110
Sadly, no.

385
00:16:48,248 --> 00:16:50,216
Serena, she's dealing
with some personal matters,

386
00:16:50,354 --> 00:16:52,839
and it won't be resolved
by tonight.

387
00:16:52,977 --> 00:16:54,737
But I'll reach out
as soon as we--

388
00:16:54,875 --> 00:16:56,808
You'll reach out.

389
00:16:56,946 --> 00:16:58,051
Yeah.

390
00:16:58,189 --> 00:16:59,570
I don't have
unlimited time here, okay?

391
00:16:59,708 --> 00:17:01,158
I realize that
you're just an assistant,

392
00:17:01,296 --> 00:17:02,987
but if Serena wants
this interview,

393
00:17:03,125 --> 00:17:05,058
please have her call me ASAP.

394
00:17:05,196 --> 00:17:07,681
Maybe I will still be in town.

395
00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:11,720
The level of
unprofessionalism here.

396
00:17:11,858 --> 00:17:14,723
Well, if you realize
that I'm just an assistant,

397
00:17:14,861 --> 00:17:17,381
maybe you can appreciate
that I'm just a messenger.

398
00:17:17,519 --> 00:17:18,830
Your rudeness is uncalled for.

399
00:17:18,968 --> 00:17:20,280
My rudeness?

400
00:17:20,418 --> 00:17:22,179
I fly halfway across the country

401
00:17:22,317 --> 00:17:23,835
on a delayed, overbooked flight

402
00:17:23,973 --> 00:17:25,458
to interview your boss!

403
00:17:25,596 --> 00:17:28,254
Then she no-shows
without notice!

404
00:17:28,392 --> 00:17:30,601
Then she sends you
45 minutes late.

405
00:17:30,739 --> 00:17:32,361
But I'm the rude one. Got it.

406
00:17:32,499 --> 00:17:34,467
I tried to call you,
but you didn't answer.

407
00:17:34,605 --> 00:17:35,813
How is that professional?

408
00:17:35,951 --> 00:17:39,127
Well, I always silence my phone
for interviews,

409
00:17:39,265 --> 00:17:42,026
even if it is just
for silly podcast hosts.

410
00:17:42,164 --> 00:17:44,408
Well, I ran here.

411
00:17:44,546 --> 00:17:46,030
Yes, I care so much
about my job

412
00:17:46,168 --> 00:17:47,549
that I ran all the way here

413
00:17:47,687 --> 00:17:50,724
so you wouldn't be waiting
in this humidity.

414
00:17:50,862 --> 00:17:52,968
I know that
you're very important,

415
00:17:53,106 --> 00:17:54,245
but so are we.

416
00:17:54,383 --> 00:17:57,904
Or so is she,
she's very important.

417
00:17:58,042 --> 00:18:00,596
And clearly podcasts
are beneath you,

418
00:18:00,734 --> 00:18:02,667
but it was The Times Daily
that wanted this interview,

419
00:18:02,805 --> 00:18:04,462
not Love's Listening,
so yes,

420
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,742
have a nice flight back!

421
00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,882
Wow.

422
00:18:11,020 --> 00:18:13,609
[birds chirping]

423
00:18:16,716 --> 00:18:19,581
So, how tall is he in person?

424
00:18:19,719 --> 00:18:21,134
Wondering what height heels
I should wear

425
00:18:21,272 --> 00:18:22,411
when the redness goes down.

426
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:25,104
When are we rescheduled to?

427
00:18:25,242 --> 00:18:27,623
We're not.

428
00:18:27,761 --> 00:18:29,798
He was really upset
that you weren't there,

429
00:18:29,936 --> 00:18:31,938
and he seems like
he doesn't even want to be here,

430
00:18:32,076 --> 00:18:36,943
so I kind of played it
sort of horrible.

431
00:18:37,081 --> 00:18:38,358
What does that mean?

432
00:18:38,496 --> 00:18:40,602
You know I hate sports.

433
00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:43,605
I told him that
you didn't need the press,

434
00:18:43,743 --> 00:18:46,608
that he was very lucky
to be doing the profile.

435
00:18:46,746 --> 00:18:47,988
You what?

436
00:18:48,127 --> 00:18:49,956
Well, he was just
so rude and pompous.

437
00:18:50,094 --> 00:18:52,959
We do need this coverage, Abby!

438
00:18:53,097 --> 00:18:54,823
We need the promotion
before the Awards,

439
00:18:54,961 --> 00:18:59,172
and I need to put this breakup
gossip to rest immediately!

440
00:18:59,310 --> 00:19:01,312
How did you mess this up?
Fix it!

441
00:19:01,450 --> 00:19:03,487
Well, I don't think he wants
to talk to me ever again,

442
00:19:03,625 --> 00:19:05,040
so why don't you call him?

443
00:19:05,178 --> 00:19:08,216
Oh, and how would that look?

444
00:19:08,354 --> 00:19:10,287
No, this is on you.

445
00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:11,840
Take one of my gift baskets,

446
00:19:11,978 --> 00:19:13,980
march over
to wherever he's staying,

447
00:19:14,118 --> 00:19:15,775
and apologize!

448
00:19:15,913 --> 00:19:17,086
Keep him occupied.

449
00:19:17,225 --> 00:19:20,331
Whatever it takes,
your job depends on it.

450
00:19:20,469 --> 00:19:22,713
Okay, I'm really sorry.

451
00:19:22,851 --> 00:19:25,233
And let me remind you
that you're my assistant

452
00:19:25,371 --> 00:19:28,581
and a direct reflection
of my brand.

453
00:19:28,719 --> 00:19:30,652
You do not get to take
these kinds of liberties

454
00:19:30,790 --> 00:19:33,689
with communication.

455
00:19:33,827 --> 00:19:34,828
And where are the scripts

456
00:19:34,966 --> 00:19:36,416
for the spring segments,
by the way?

457
00:19:36,554 --> 00:19:38,315
I've just been so distracted!

458
00:19:38,453 --> 00:19:40,972
I'm hearing
a lot of excuses, Abby!

459
00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:43,216
Very disappointing.

460
00:19:43,354 --> 00:19:45,839
You can't be serious.

461
00:19:45,977 --> 00:19:48,842
I get that you're frustrated,
but what I'm also hearing

462
00:19:48,980 --> 00:19:51,673
is that you were condescending
and impatient.

463
00:19:51,811 --> 00:19:53,571
Has it been so long
since you were an assistant

464
00:19:53,709 --> 00:19:55,021
that you've forgotten
what it's like?

465
00:19:55,159 --> 00:19:59,059
I took it out
on the wrong person, okay?

466
00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:00,682
Sure sounds like it.

467
00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:02,235
I know you don't want
to be there,

468
00:20:02,373 --> 00:20:03,788
but you have a job to do,

469
00:20:03,926 --> 00:20:05,514
so don't step foot
back in the city

470
00:20:05,652 --> 00:20:07,206
without a story.

471
00:20:07,344 --> 00:20:09,173
Look, I'll fix it, okay?

472
00:20:09,311 --> 00:20:12,211
I gotta go.

473
00:20:12,349 --> 00:20:14,247
Uh, special delivery?

474
00:20:14,385 --> 00:20:15,248
Mr. Whitman--

475
00:20:15,386 --> 00:20:16,870
Jack, please.

476
00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:18,527
Jack.

477
00:20:18,665 --> 00:20:21,875
I thought you'd be in a hotel.

478
00:20:22,013 --> 00:20:23,118
So did I.

479
00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:25,914
Unfortunately,
they lost my reservation,

480
00:20:26,052 --> 00:20:27,536
so I had to improvise.

481
00:20:27,674 --> 00:20:28,572
I'm so sorry.

482
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:31,230
It's okay. Vacation rental.

483
00:20:31,368 --> 00:20:34,888
Listen, I wanted to apologize
on behalf of Love's Listening.

484
00:20:35,026 --> 00:20:38,444
So we thought that
you'd maybe enjoy some...

485
00:20:38,582 --> 00:20:40,756
face masks.

486
00:20:40,894 --> 00:20:43,103
And bath bombs.

487
00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:45,761
I mean, who doesn't love
bath bombs, right?

488
00:20:45,899 --> 00:20:47,176
Pamper yourself.

489
00:20:47,315 --> 00:20:49,662
And that's nice,
some eyelash curler.

490
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,077
Do you grow your lashes?

491
00:20:51,215 --> 00:20:53,252
Or maybe for your wife
or your girlfriend?

492
00:20:53,390 --> 00:20:56,496
You know, uh,
no girlfriend, no wife,

493
00:20:56,634 --> 00:21:00,051
and I think that my eyelashes
are naturally curly enough,

494
00:21:00,189 --> 00:21:02,744
don't you?

495
00:21:02,882 --> 00:21:06,126
I really do appreciate
the gesture.

496
00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:08,267
I need to apologize too, okay?

497
00:21:08,405 --> 00:21:11,339
I've been an assistant
and it's tough,

498
00:21:11,477 --> 00:21:13,513
and I had a bad start
to this trip

499
00:21:13,651 --> 00:21:16,344
and I unfairly
took that out on you.

500
00:21:16,482 --> 00:21:19,312
I'd be happy to reschedule
if there is a time this week

501
00:21:19,450 --> 00:21:22,764
that works better for Serena,
and for you, of course.

502
00:21:22,902 --> 00:21:23,937
Oh.

503
00:21:24,075 --> 00:21:25,698
That would be great.

504
00:21:25,836 --> 00:21:29,011
We definitely want
to rebook ASAP.

505
00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:30,875
Serena is dealing with
some personal stuff right now,

506
00:21:31,013 --> 00:21:34,431
but how well do you know
the show?

507
00:21:34,569 --> 00:21:37,019
Honestly, I've listened
to a few episodes,

508
00:21:37,157 --> 00:21:38,469
but I lack a familiarity

509
00:21:38,607 --> 00:21:40,678
with the whole
production process.

510
00:21:40,816 --> 00:21:43,612
I can definitely help you
with that.

511
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:46,788
So, there is surprisingly
little information

512
00:21:46,926 --> 00:21:48,824
about Serena's background
online.

513
00:21:48,962 --> 00:21:51,137
That feels pretty intentional.

514
00:21:51,275 --> 00:21:53,795
Is there a question
in the statement?

515
00:21:53,933 --> 00:21:56,107
Sure. Where is she from?

516
00:21:56,245 --> 00:21:57,661
Let's start there.

517
00:21:57,799 --> 00:22:00,146
Well, she's from Delaware
originally

518
00:22:00,284 --> 00:22:01,975
and she moved here for college,

519
00:22:02,113 --> 00:22:04,668
and she fell in love
with the city.

520
00:22:04,806 --> 00:22:07,326
So did I, actually,

521
00:22:07,464 --> 00:22:11,951
I mean, it's so easy
to fall in love with, obviously.

522
00:22:12,089 --> 00:22:12,952
Eh.

523
00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:15,161
What, "eh"?

524
00:22:15,299 --> 00:22:16,921
Oh, of course!

525
00:22:17,059 --> 00:22:18,820
You're one of those New Yorkers

526
00:22:18,958 --> 00:22:20,718
who can't see potential
anywhere else.

527
00:22:20,856 --> 00:22:25,344
Look, I mean, New York is
just so alive, so creative,

528
00:22:25,482 --> 00:22:27,967
so... a third thing.

529
00:22:28,105 --> 00:22:29,727
Writer, huh?

530
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,282
I was born and raised in Cuba,

531
00:22:33,421 --> 00:22:36,009
but I've been living here
for the past 10 years.

532
00:22:36,147 --> 00:22:38,426
The city has changed,
sometimes not for the better,

533
00:22:38,564 --> 00:22:40,738
but it has so much history,

534
00:22:40,876 --> 00:22:45,502
so much creative inspiration.

535
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,782
So how does Serena
separate the podcast

536
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,404
from her personal life?

537
00:22:51,542 --> 00:22:52,785
In what way?

538
00:22:52,923 --> 00:22:54,614
Well, I've listened
to a couple episodes,

539
00:22:54,752 --> 00:22:56,685
as I've told you.

540
00:22:56,823 --> 00:22:58,929
And now what do you think
so far?

541
00:22:59,067 --> 00:23:02,933
Well, I mean, the advice
actually isn't that bad.

542
00:23:03,071 --> 00:23:04,866
The writing is much better
than I thought it would be

543
00:23:05,004 --> 00:23:06,695
and there's an eloquence to it

544
00:23:06,833 --> 00:23:08,870
that I wasn't anticipating.

545
00:23:09,008 --> 00:23:11,804
Thank you for the high praise.

546
00:23:11,942 --> 00:23:13,219
I mean, I'm just the assistant,

547
00:23:13,357 --> 00:23:16,878
but it's good to hear
on behalf of the show.

548
00:23:17,016 --> 00:23:19,156
Look, full disclosure,

549
00:23:19,294 --> 00:23:21,192
I don't think people
can actually change

550
00:23:21,330 --> 00:23:23,194
with romantic advice.

551
00:23:23,332 --> 00:23:24,541
The idea is nice.

552
00:23:24,679 --> 00:23:25,887
Wow.

553
00:23:26,025 --> 00:23:29,787
From compliments
to condescension.

554
00:23:29,925 --> 00:23:32,272
I like the compliment part more.

555
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:35,241
♪

556
00:23:38,382 --> 00:23:39,590
Hi, Carlos!

557
00:23:39,728 --> 00:23:41,592
Hey! Abby!

558
00:23:41,730 --> 00:23:44,457
Whoa, look at you,
you got a friend!

559
00:23:44,595 --> 00:23:46,459
I have friends.

560
00:23:46,597 --> 00:23:49,117
Can I grab one of these
and this as well, please?

561
00:23:49,255 --> 00:23:50,256
Sí, Señor.

562
00:23:50,394 --> 00:23:51,395
How much?

563
00:23:51,533 --> 00:23:53,017
Ten dollars.

564
00:23:53,155 --> 00:23:54,778
Look, I'm not trying
to be condescending,

565
00:23:54,916 --> 00:23:56,952
it's not Serena's fault,
but at their core,

566
00:23:57,090 --> 00:23:58,437
people just don't change,
they can't.

567
00:23:58,575 --> 00:23:59,576
It's a fact.

568
00:23:59,714 --> 00:24:00,818
Thank you.

569
00:24:00,956 --> 00:24:02,233
Well, I just
don't agree with you.

570
00:24:02,371 --> 00:24:03,511
I just can't.

571
00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:05,098
In what sense?

572
00:24:05,236 --> 00:24:09,309
Well, I don't think people
are set in those ways.

573
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:12,623
People can change or grow
or even become someone

574
00:24:12,761 --> 00:24:15,315
they didn't even expect to be.

575
00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:16,869
Wow.

576
00:24:17,007 --> 00:24:18,353
Did Serena force you
to say that

577
00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:19,941
or are you actually this naive?

578
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:21,598
No one forces me
to say anything,

579
00:24:21,736 --> 00:24:23,323
and I'm not naive.

580
00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:25,429
Some people
don't want to change,

581
00:24:25,567 --> 00:24:27,017
so they don't,

582
00:24:27,155 --> 00:24:28,881
but for those who want to,
you know,

583
00:24:29,019 --> 00:24:31,262
I happen to believe in romance.

584
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,194
Is that so bad?

585
00:24:32,332 --> 00:24:35,335
No, it's just not realistic.

586
00:24:35,474 --> 00:24:38,097
Realistic or cynical?

587
00:24:38,235 --> 00:24:39,374
I give up.

588
00:24:39,512 --> 00:24:42,377
Heck, I've been called
a cynic before.

589
00:24:44,931 --> 00:24:47,140
Well, I have to go
for my next meeting.

590
00:24:47,278 --> 00:24:51,317
Okay, well, goodbye in case
we don't see each other again.

591
00:24:51,455 --> 00:24:53,699
What do you mean
we won't see each other again?

592
00:24:53,837 --> 00:24:55,632
The paper is not just
going to pay for me

593
00:24:55,770 --> 00:24:57,634
to hang out, you know.

594
00:24:57,772 --> 00:24:59,877
Thank you for the walk,
it was lovely,

595
00:25:00,015 --> 00:25:02,362
but I'm going to need
some more substantial info

596
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,019
regarding Serena's
creative process

597
00:25:04,157 --> 00:25:06,746
to justify my staying in town.

598
00:25:06,884 --> 00:25:08,852
How about I take you
to the places

599
00:25:08,990 --> 00:25:10,854
where Serena gets
her inspiration?

600
00:25:10,992 --> 00:25:12,718
The city totally shapes
her point of view

601
00:25:12,856 --> 00:25:18,413
and, you know, we can schedule
a tour visit of the studio?

602
00:25:18,551 --> 00:25:20,588
Just until
Serena's available herself,

603
00:25:20,726 --> 00:25:23,556
which she will be very soon.

604
00:25:23,694 --> 00:25:24,764
I can do tomorrow morning.

605
00:25:24,902 --> 00:25:26,214
Does that work for you?

606
00:25:26,352 --> 00:25:28,768
♪

607
00:25:28,906 --> 00:25:30,908
Sure, that all sounds good.

608
00:25:31,046 --> 00:25:34,533
Just email me the details
and I'll see you in the morning.

609
00:25:34,671 --> 00:25:41,401
♪

610
00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:43,472
I know, Audrey,

611
00:25:43,611 --> 00:25:46,475
but I have a non-disclosure
agreement with Serena.

612
00:25:46,614 --> 00:25:48,926
It's not like
I can tell Jack, "Hey!

613
00:25:49,064 --> 00:25:50,238
Her inspirational spots

614
00:25:50,376 --> 00:25:51,895
are actually
my inspirational spots

615
00:25:52,033 --> 00:25:55,036
because I write everything."

616
00:25:55,174 --> 00:25:57,866
Plus now I'm so afraid
of messing up

617
00:25:58,004 --> 00:25:59,523
that I can't even write
the stupid scripts

618
00:25:59,661 --> 00:26:01,214
I'm supposed to write.

619
00:26:01,352 --> 00:26:03,216
♪

620
00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:05,046
Ugh.

621
00:26:05,184 --> 00:26:07,393
The internet says
that your brown leaves

622
00:26:07,531 --> 00:26:11,639
might mean that
you're a little bit drafty.

623
00:26:11,777 --> 00:26:15,884
No one likes
a high maintenance diva, Audrey.

624
00:26:16,022 --> 00:26:19,025
We'll kick off from here.

625
00:26:19,163 --> 00:26:19,819
No.

626
00:26:19,957 --> 00:26:21,096
Mm-hm! Yes.

627
00:26:21,234 --> 00:26:23,720
You can stretch for a minute
if you want.

628
00:26:23,858 --> 00:26:25,584
I'm fine, thank you.

629
00:26:25,722 --> 00:26:27,275
I take spin classes at my gym,

630
00:26:27,413 --> 00:26:29,277
so fully prepared.

631
00:26:29,415 --> 00:26:31,555
Don't say I didn't warn you.

632
00:26:31,693 --> 00:26:33,246
I've been fully warned.

633
00:26:33,384 --> 00:26:35,386
[chuckling]

634
00:26:35,524 --> 00:26:36,387
Okay, let's go.

635
00:26:36,525 --> 00:26:38,217
Lead the way.

636
00:26:38,355 --> 00:26:39,390
We're here.

637
00:26:39,528 --> 00:26:43,153
Oh, thank God.

638
00:26:43,291 --> 00:26:45,914
♪

639
00:26:46,052 --> 00:26:48,986
This is why you need subways.

640
00:26:49,124 --> 00:26:50,781
We have Metrorail

641
00:26:50,919 --> 00:26:53,025
and free trolleys,
do you have trolleys?

642
00:26:53,163 --> 00:26:54,958
No, we don't have trolleys.

643
00:26:55,096 --> 00:26:58,444
Trolleys are just
unfinished buses.

644
00:26:58,582 --> 00:27:00,757
And subways are for people

645
00:27:00,895 --> 00:27:03,414
who prefer to travel
in the dark.

646
00:27:03,552 --> 00:27:05,416
Oh, I sense a metaphor there,

647
00:27:05,554 --> 00:27:08,109
that's pretty deep.

648
00:27:08,247 --> 00:27:11,388
So, on an advice show,

649
00:27:11,526 --> 00:27:13,873
what kind of people call in
for love advice

650
00:27:14,011 --> 00:27:16,358
from a total stranger?

651
00:27:16,496 --> 00:27:19,223
Regular callers,
they feel like they know Serena,

652
00:27:19,361 --> 00:27:21,536
so she's not a stranger to them.

653
00:27:21,674 --> 00:27:23,124
Okay, that makes sense,

654
00:27:23,262 --> 00:27:26,610
but don't you think
anyone can give advice?

655
00:27:26,748 --> 00:27:27,784
Why trust Serena?

656
00:27:27,922 --> 00:27:29,682
What makes her advice
so special?

657
00:27:29,820 --> 00:27:34,687
You have to be really observant
to give romantic advice,

658
00:27:34,825 --> 00:27:36,620
and an excellent listener.

659
00:27:36,758 --> 00:27:39,658
To read between the lines,

660
00:27:39,796 --> 00:27:43,869
and that's one of the hallmarks
of Love's Listening.

661
00:27:44,007 --> 00:27:47,735
Okay, well,
show me what you mean.

662
00:27:47,873 --> 00:27:50,013
Um, okay.

663
00:27:50,151 --> 00:27:54,811
I'm not Serena,
but I can give it a try.

664
00:27:54,949 --> 00:27:58,504
Um... there, that couple.

665
00:27:58,642 --> 00:28:01,024
They weren't friends
before they started dating,

666
00:28:01,162 --> 00:28:05,269
so I would advise them
to go on a trip together

667
00:28:05,407 --> 00:28:10,205
or a theme park, you know,
to have some external stressors

668
00:28:10,343 --> 00:28:12,380
to see if they can handle it.

669
00:28:12,518 --> 00:28:16,384
If they can,
they will be golden.

670
00:28:16,522 --> 00:28:19,145
Interesting.

671
00:28:19,283 --> 00:28:22,355
You try.

672
00:28:22,493 --> 00:28:23,494
Me?

673
00:28:23,632 --> 00:28:24,633
Yes.

674
00:28:24,772 --> 00:28:27,119
You--you say that anyone
can give advice.

675
00:28:27,257 --> 00:28:29,535
That includes you, right?

676
00:28:29,673 --> 00:28:32,400
Using my own words
against me, I see.

677
00:28:32,538 --> 00:28:34,782
Okay, um...

678
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,749
♪

679
00:28:36,887 --> 00:28:41,685
All right, they're together

680
00:28:41,823 --> 00:28:46,586
and they have a baby together,

681
00:28:46,725 --> 00:28:51,453
and they don't sleep
because of the kid.

682
00:28:51,591 --> 00:28:54,111
♪

683
00:28:54,249 --> 00:28:57,149
That's the worst reading
I ever heard.

684
00:28:57,287 --> 00:28:58,978
Clearly romance is not my forte,

685
00:28:59,116 --> 00:29:00,255
surprise, surprise.

686
00:29:00,393 --> 00:29:02,085
I'm more of a hard facts
kind of guy,

687
00:29:02,223 --> 00:29:04,259
and factually speaking,
we'll never actually know

688
00:29:04,397 --> 00:29:05,744
how accurate your reading was,

689
00:29:05,882 --> 00:29:08,954
because we're just guessing.

690
00:29:09,092 --> 00:29:11,059
How about I read you?

691
00:29:11,197 --> 00:29:13,890
And you tell me if I'm right, factually.

692
00:29:14,028 --> 00:29:16,824
Okay, shoot.

693
00:29:16,962 --> 00:29:19,412
Let's see, um,

694
00:29:19,550 --> 00:29:22,105
you're very critical
of this kind of stuff

695
00:29:22,243 --> 00:29:27,489
because you got
your heart broken.

696
00:29:27,627 --> 00:29:29,837
We all have.

697
00:29:29,975 --> 00:29:32,736
Very badly.

698
00:29:32,874 --> 00:29:35,359
What makes you say that?

699
00:29:35,497 --> 00:29:39,501
Just the way--you know what?

700
00:29:39,639 --> 00:29:41,089
Doesn't matter.

701
00:29:41,227 --> 00:29:44,472
It takes one to know one,
I guess.

702
00:29:44,610 --> 00:29:47,302
♪

703
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,753
Um, we should go
to the next place.

704
00:29:49,891 --> 00:29:51,168
Yeah, uh...

705
00:29:51,306 --> 00:29:52,342
♪

706
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,757
Is it okay that
we leave our bikes here?

707
00:29:53,895 --> 00:29:55,414
Oh, this is not New York.

708
00:29:55,552 --> 00:29:56,656
Okay.

709
00:29:59,107 --> 00:30:00,488
You write?

710
00:30:00,626 --> 00:30:04,285
I...I've written casually
for years.

711
00:30:04,423 --> 00:30:06,632
I'm trying to make
bigger strides,

712
00:30:06,770 --> 00:30:10,360
but I'm not in the right place
right now.

713
00:30:10,498 --> 00:30:11,706
It's so frustrating.

714
00:30:11,844 --> 00:30:14,295
I feel like
I'm not where I should be.

715
00:30:14,433 --> 00:30:16,607
What do you mean
where you should be?

716
00:30:18,023 --> 00:30:19,300
I don't know.

717
00:30:19,438 --> 00:30:21,647
I feel like if I'd done
everything differently,

718
00:30:21,785 --> 00:30:23,649
I'd be further along
the way now,

719
00:30:23,787 --> 00:30:26,963
but I can't
and I'm stuck in my head.

720
00:30:27,101 --> 00:30:29,344
I don't know.

721
00:30:31,450 --> 00:30:33,486
Sounds like an excuse.

722
00:30:33,624 --> 00:30:39,285
Look, can I give you
some unsolicited advice?

723
00:30:39,423 --> 00:30:40,735
Depends.

724
00:30:40,873 --> 00:30:42,737
Are you going to be mean
about it?

725
00:30:42,875 --> 00:30:46,637
Man, I really made a bad
first impression, didn't I?

726
00:30:49,537 --> 00:30:51,539
Okay.

727
00:30:51,677 --> 00:30:54,162
I welcome any advice.

728
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:55,957
I've been there.

729
00:30:56,095 --> 00:30:58,580
That feeling like
you've missed opportunities,

730
00:30:58,718 --> 00:31:01,342
wondering about other roads,
other timelines.

731
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:07,003
Whether it was with writing
or... relationships.

732
00:31:07,141 --> 00:31:08,901
Anyways, some of the best advice

733
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:13,147
I ever got was to bloom
where I was planted, you know?

734
00:31:13,285 --> 00:31:17,876
It doesn't help to linger on
what's out of your control.

735
00:31:18,014 --> 00:31:21,120
You've just gotta trust
that you're where you are

736
00:31:21,258 --> 00:31:23,260
right now for a reason.

737
00:31:23,398 --> 00:31:24,227
♪

738
00:31:24,365 --> 00:31:26,091
That's great advice.

739
00:31:26,229 --> 00:31:28,300
Are you becoming
an optimist now?

740
00:31:28,438 --> 00:31:29,611
Don't push it.

741
00:31:29,749 --> 00:31:30,923
That's a shame.

742
00:31:31,061 --> 00:31:33,788
The glimmer of optimism
really suited you.

743
00:31:33,926 --> 00:31:35,548
[chuckling]

744
00:31:35,686 --> 00:31:38,103
You don't really think
I'm mean, do you?

745
00:31:38,241 --> 00:31:39,552
Not right now.

746
00:31:39,690 --> 00:31:40,588
[laughs]

747
00:31:40,726 --> 00:31:41,865
That's good.

748
00:31:42,866 --> 00:31:43,763
♪

749
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:45,696
Abby, it's me.

750
00:31:45,834 --> 00:31:47,215
Pick up!

751
00:31:47,353 --> 00:31:48,734
Hi, this is Abby.

752
00:31:48,872 --> 00:31:49,735
Leave a message.

753
00:31:49,873 --> 00:31:50,736
[groans]

754
00:31:50,874 --> 00:31:55,223
♪

755
00:31:55,361 --> 00:31:57,639
How's it going with the nerd?

756
00:31:57,777 --> 00:31:59,503
You know, I was thinking,
maybe you could tell him

757
00:31:59,641 --> 00:32:02,644
I was unavailable
because I was volunteering

758
00:32:02,782 --> 00:32:04,129
at a hospital.

759
00:32:04,267 --> 00:32:06,959
Puppy shelter?
Puppy hospital.

760
00:32:07,097 --> 00:32:09,651
I don't know,
use whatever is saddest.

761
00:32:09,789 --> 00:32:10,929
Call me back--ooh!

762
00:32:11,067 --> 00:32:12,206
♪

763
00:32:13,552 --> 00:32:19,385
♪

764
00:32:19,523 --> 00:32:20,766
Ah.

765
00:32:20,904 --> 00:32:22,457
We are here.

766
00:32:22,595 --> 00:32:26,668
♪

767
00:32:26,806 --> 00:32:27,669
Wow.

768
00:32:27,807 --> 00:32:29,154
[laughs]

769
00:32:29,292 --> 00:32:32,260
A little bit more scenic
than the Hudson, huh?

770
00:32:32,398 --> 00:32:33,744
It's like a postcard.

771
00:32:33,882 --> 00:32:35,436
Mm-hm.

772
00:32:35,574 --> 00:32:38,508
I love to come here when I feel
like my work is stale.

773
00:32:38,646 --> 00:32:39,647
♪

774
00:32:39,785 --> 00:32:41,269
And I walk on the sand,

775
00:32:41,407 --> 00:32:45,170
and I like to think that
if you change your environment,

776
00:32:45,308 --> 00:32:47,448
you can change
your perspective.

777
00:32:47,586 --> 00:32:51,417
Well, it really is
beautiful here.

778
00:32:51,555 --> 00:32:52,418
Yeah.

779
00:32:52,556 --> 00:32:53,592
Oh!

780
00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:54,869
Are you okay?

781
00:32:55,007 --> 00:32:56,491
Ah, yeah, I think I got
a charley horse.

782
00:32:56,629 --> 00:32:59,391
Okay, okay, sorry,
lean on me, come on.

783
00:32:59,529 --> 00:33:00,702
No, I'm fine, I'm fine.

784
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,911
- No, you're not.
- Okay, all right.

785
00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:07,054
I told you to stretch,
but you didn't want to do it.

786
00:33:07,192 --> 00:33:08,434
Is it exhausting?

787
00:33:08,572 --> 00:33:09,401
What?

788
00:33:09,539 --> 00:33:10,816
Always being right?

789
00:33:10,954 --> 00:33:13,439
Yes, but I can manage.

790
00:33:13,577 --> 00:33:14,647
[groans]

791
00:33:14,785 --> 00:33:17,581
Well, this is the end
of our tour,

792
00:33:17,719 --> 00:33:19,514
and I'm hoping that, you know,

793
00:33:19,652 --> 00:33:22,793
you get the feeling
of how Serena--

794
00:33:22,931 --> 00:33:24,968
our creative process.

795
00:33:25,106 --> 00:33:27,074
Yeah. Hm.

796
00:33:27,212 --> 00:33:28,903
You want me to call you a cab?

797
00:33:29,041 --> 00:33:31,043
No, I'm okay actually.

798
00:33:31,181 --> 00:33:33,804
Um, I'm actually
pretty famished.

799
00:33:33,942 --> 00:33:34,978
♪

800
00:33:35,116 --> 00:33:36,152
Do you want to grab dinner?

801
00:33:36,290 --> 00:33:37,429
My treat if you can think
of any place

802
00:33:37,567 --> 00:33:39,051
that we can hobble to.

803
00:33:39,189 --> 00:33:41,502
♪

804
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,194
This is one of Serena's
favorite spots in the city.

805
00:33:44,332 --> 00:33:46,231
Mm, well,
from what I see on the menu,

806
00:33:46,369 --> 00:33:47,542
she's got good taste.

807
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,819
Thanks!

808
00:33:48,957 --> 00:33:51,029
Um, I'll let her know
that you say so.

809
00:33:51,167 --> 00:33:53,341
What are you getting?

810
00:33:53,479 --> 00:33:55,826
You know what,
I'm gonna follow your lead.

811
00:33:55,964 --> 00:33:57,000
All right.

812
00:33:57,138 --> 00:34:02,902
♪

813
00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:07,562
♪ Hold my hand
till the courage sticks ♪

814
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:12,774
♪ Shine the light
till the darkness lifts ♪

815
00:34:12,912 --> 00:34:21,231
♪

816
00:34:21,369 --> 00:34:26,547
♪ Hold me up
so I don't look weak ♪

817
00:34:26,685 --> 00:34:28,997
I--I wanted
to ask you something,

818
00:34:29,136 --> 00:34:31,862
but I don't want it
to come out wrong.

819
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,416
Well, go for it. I mean,

820
00:34:33,554 --> 00:34:36,177
I feel like we know each other
pretty well at this point.

821
00:34:36,315 --> 00:34:41,286
Okay, I--I had a feeling
that you didn't want to be here.

822
00:34:41,424 --> 00:34:43,391
Are you being punished
or something?

823
00:34:43,529 --> 00:34:44,565
Punished, no.

824
00:34:44,703 --> 00:34:47,775
Um, I was just being a snob.

825
00:34:47,913 --> 00:34:49,121
- Mm-hm.
- Yep.

826
00:34:49,259 --> 00:34:51,917
And Serena
has a massive platform.

827
00:34:52,055 --> 00:34:54,575
The Times Daily is trying
to expand its readership,

828
00:34:54,713 --> 00:34:57,888
and I'm the profile guy, so...

829
00:34:58,026 --> 00:34:59,235
That makes sense.

830
00:34:59,373 --> 00:35:01,306
And how do you feel now?

831
00:35:01,444 --> 00:35:02,755
Pretty full.

832
00:35:02,893 --> 00:35:04,481
You know what I mean.

833
00:35:04,619 --> 00:35:08,313
Well, truthfully,
I wasn't keen on the idea.

834
00:35:08,451 --> 00:35:10,349
I mean, I like to be
in my comfort zone.

835
00:35:10,487 --> 00:35:13,663
And I have a little bit
of an aversion

836
00:35:13,801 --> 00:35:17,494
to anything touting
romantic expertise.

837
00:35:17,632 --> 00:35:23,500
But you were spot-on earlier
about relationship stuff.

838
00:35:23,638 --> 00:35:24,950
I don't want you
to discuss this

839
00:35:25,088 --> 00:35:26,952
if it makes you
feel uncomfortable.

840
00:35:27,090 --> 00:35:30,438
No, it's fine, really.

841
00:35:30,576 --> 00:35:33,338
Let's see,
how to make it succinct.

842
00:35:33,476 --> 00:35:35,098
Um...

843
00:35:35,236 --> 00:35:36,789
The headline would read:

844
00:35:36,927 --> 00:35:39,654
"Woman breaks fiancé's heart

845
00:35:39,792 --> 00:35:41,656
two months
before their wedding."

846
00:35:41,794 --> 00:35:44,314
Oh my God,
I'm so sorry about that.

847
00:35:44,452 --> 00:35:47,938
Um, was she looking for herself?

848
00:35:48,076 --> 00:35:49,423
I thought so.

849
00:35:49,561 --> 00:35:52,564
But she had found someone else
while we were dating.

850
00:35:52,702 --> 00:35:55,636
Now, honesty
is the most important part

851
00:35:55,774 --> 00:35:58,017
of a relationship for me by far.

852
00:35:58,156 --> 00:36:00,503
I mean, it would hurt too much
to learn, again,

853
00:36:00,641 --> 00:36:04,231
that someone wasn't
who they said they were.

854
00:36:04,369 --> 00:36:06,302
I understand that.

855
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,062
I'm so sorry.

856
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,063
[laughs]

857
00:36:09,201 --> 00:36:10,133
For what?

858
00:36:10,271 --> 00:36:13,067
For everything that happened.

859
00:36:13,205 --> 00:36:14,482
Well, at this point,

860
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:18,176
I just want to skip all
of the complicated dating stuff

861
00:36:18,314 --> 00:36:20,557
and get right to the point
where I get to be with someone

862
00:36:20,695 --> 00:36:23,181
that I can hang out
and watch movies with.

863
00:36:23,319 --> 00:36:24,975
♪

864
00:36:25,113 --> 00:36:26,322
That's the dream.

865
00:36:26,460 --> 00:36:29,670
Well, maybe if I keep listening
to Love's Listening,

866
00:36:29,808 --> 00:36:32,328
I can collect enough tips
so that I can do that.

867
00:36:32,466 --> 00:36:34,778
Serena is very charming.

868
00:36:34,916 --> 00:36:38,506
Maybe, but I don't think
that's what it is.

869
00:36:38,644 --> 00:36:42,924
You know, there's real heart
to the content.

870
00:36:43,062 --> 00:36:46,859
I'm looking forward to seeing
how Serena puts it all together.

871
00:36:46,997 --> 00:36:48,896
Me too.

872
00:36:49,034 --> 00:36:51,554
[insects chirring]

873
00:36:53,038 --> 00:36:55,385
No, I didn't say that though.

874
00:36:55,523 --> 00:36:58,008
No, I just--take--

875
00:36:58,146 --> 00:36:59,389
No, it--no!

876
00:36:59,527 --> 00:37:03,911
No, it's--it's not
the last opportunity, Matt.

877
00:37:04,049 --> 00:37:08,122
Oh, well, I'm sorry
you feel that way.

878
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:10,055
Hey, Abs just walked in.

879
00:37:10,193 --> 00:37:13,092
I'm gonna crash here
tonight, cool?

880
00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:14,853
Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow.

881
00:37:14,991 --> 00:37:15,957
Bye.

882
00:37:17,338 --> 00:37:19,547
"I'm sorry you feel that way"?

883
00:37:19,685 --> 00:37:22,274
You know that's not an apology.

884
00:37:22,412 --> 00:37:23,758
Can you just be sister Abby

885
00:37:23,896 --> 00:37:27,072
and not romance podcast Abby
for a bit?

886
00:37:27,210 --> 00:37:28,418
Absolutely.

887
00:37:28,556 --> 00:37:30,213
What's going on?

888
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,738
Matt wanted to put in an offer
for the house,

889
00:37:37,876 --> 00:37:39,187
and I got a little freaked out,

890
00:37:39,326 --> 00:37:44,400
so I told him to wait
just 'cause I needed more time.

891
00:37:44,538 --> 00:37:46,333
Did you like the house?

892
00:37:46,471 --> 00:37:48,749
I thought you were ready
to make that move?

893
00:37:48,887 --> 00:37:50,440
That's what Matt said.

894
00:37:50,578 --> 00:37:52,339
I mean, I love the house.

895
00:37:52,477 --> 00:37:54,479
I just...

896
00:37:54,617 --> 00:37:57,861
I needed to take a breath,
you know?

897
00:37:57,999 --> 00:38:01,037
Anyways, while we were
having that argument,

898
00:38:01,175 --> 00:38:04,420
the seller accepted
another offer.

899
00:38:04,558 --> 00:38:07,250
Matt is pretty frustrated
with me right now.

900
00:38:07,388 --> 00:38:09,770
I'm so sorry.

901
00:38:09,908 --> 00:38:12,151
There will be other houses,
you know?

902
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:13,774
I know.

903
00:38:13,912 --> 00:38:16,259
This place
was just really great.

904
00:38:16,397 --> 00:38:17,950
And you know Miami real estate.

905
00:38:18,088 --> 00:38:19,814
I've heard.

906
00:38:19,952 --> 00:38:22,541
It was just happening
so quickly.

907
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:24,371
I don't know, I...

908
00:38:24,509 --> 00:38:26,959
We'll be fine, but...

909
00:38:27,097 --> 00:38:29,686
Lucy's staying
at a friend's house tonight.

910
00:38:29,824 --> 00:38:33,759
Is it cool if I just crash here
just for some space?

911
00:38:33,897 --> 00:38:34,967
Please.

912
00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:36,452
I'm so glad
that you're gonna be here

913
00:38:36,590 --> 00:38:38,108
with me tonight.

914
00:38:38,246 --> 00:38:39,351
Hot chocolate?

915
00:38:39,489 --> 00:38:40,387
You know it.

916
00:38:40,525 --> 00:38:42,043
Okay, let's go.

917
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:50,949
Thank you.

918
00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:57,300
So, how was your date?

919
00:38:57,438 --> 00:39:00,545
It was a work thing, not a date.

920
00:39:00,683 --> 00:39:03,168
You were out pretty long
for a work thing.

921
00:39:03,306 --> 00:39:04,721
I thought you said
you were just spending

922
00:39:04,859 --> 00:39:06,309
part of the day with him.

923
00:39:06,447 --> 00:39:08,242
He took me to dinner.

924
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:09,830
For work.

925
00:39:09,968 --> 00:39:11,797
Don't look at me like that.

926
00:39:11,935 --> 00:39:12,833
Stop it!

927
00:39:12,971 --> 00:39:15,145
Okay, it was great.

928
00:39:15,283 --> 00:39:17,320
He's surprising.

929
00:39:17,458 --> 00:39:18,942
Different than I thought.

930
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,187
And a little bit frustrating
at times.

931
00:39:22,325 --> 00:39:25,052
But I don't know,
I think he likes my writing.

932
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:27,710
Of course he does,
you're talented.

933
00:39:27,848 --> 00:39:30,126
But he doesn't know
it's my writing.

934
00:39:30,264 --> 00:39:32,542
He kept quoting me
to myself all day.

935
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,098
Things that Serena said
in the podcast or in articles.

936
00:39:37,236 --> 00:39:39,411
It was all my own
talking points,

937
00:39:39,549 --> 00:39:41,827
and he has no idea.

938
00:39:42,587 --> 00:39:44,002
Wow.

939
00:39:44,140 --> 00:39:45,244
I know.

940
00:39:45,383 --> 00:39:48,696
It was so... encouraging.

941
00:39:48,834 --> 00:39:50,111
And disheartening.

942
00:39:50,249 --> 00:39:51,699
♪

943
00:39:51,837 --> 00:39:54,702
He's like a real writer.

944
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,324
And to have made
an impact on him

945
00:39:56,463 --> 00:40:00,294
made me feel like maybe
I know what I'm talking about.

946
00:40:00,432 --> 00:40:02,779
Abby, just tell him.

947
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:04,643
I can't. My NDA.

948
00:40:04,781 --> 00:40:06,438
Ah, that stupid piece of paper.

949
00:40:06,576 --> 00:40:08,440
It's a legal document.

950
00:40:08,578 --> 00:40:11,616
And I'm so close
to finally getting the credit

951
00:40:11,754 --> 00:40:13,825
for my work.

952
00:40:13,963 --> 00:40:16,275
I'm gonna mess it up for what?

953
00:40:16,414 --> 00:40:18,623
To impress some guy?

954
00:40:18,761 --> 00:40:21,246
It's not even worth it.

955
00:40:21,384 --> 00:40:24,560
And frankly,
we're too different.

956
00:40:24,698 --> 00:40:26,320
He's not even the romantic type.

957
00:40:26,458 --> 00:40:28,149
[laughs]

958
00:40:28,287 --> 00:40:32,257
Besides, he'd seen
photos of Serena.

959
00:40:32,395 --> 00:40:35,640
To him, it's her face
and her voice saying my words.

960
00:40:35,778 --> 00:40:39,402
It's not gonna be as impactful
coming from me, I know that.

961
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:41,646
You can't see what I see.

962
00:40:41,784 --> 00:40:43,406
You're so special.

963
00:40:43,544 --> 00:40:45,408
Jack spent the whole day
with you.

964
00:40:45,546 --> 00:40:46,789
How could he not realize

965
00:40:46,927 --> 00:40:50,758
how talented and funny
and beautiful--

966
00:40:50,896 --> 00:40:53,934
Well, if all of that were true,

967
00:40:54,072 --> 00:40:57,765
he's gonna forget
as soon as he meets Serena.

968
00:40:57,903 --> 00:41:02,287
She's gonna sweep him
off his feet.

969
00:41:02,425 --> 00:41:04,220
But she's so awful.

970
00:41:04,358 --> 00:41:07,119
She's been fully co-opting
your brain for years,

971
00:41:07,257 --> 00:41:11,538
and she treats you lesser than
when you should be full partner.

972
00:41:11,676 --> 00:41:14,989
Just consider telling him,
that's all I'm saying.

973
00:41:15,127 --> 00:41:16,439
♪

974
00:41:16,577 --> 00:41:19,511
Okay, I'll consider it.

975
00:41:19,649 --> 00:41:24,205
♪

976
00:41:24,343 --> 00:41:27,554
Sure, the situation
has been a little weird,

977
00:41:27,692 --> 00:41:31,074
but I feel like I'm getting
some good insights.

978
00:41:31,212 --> 00:41:33,042
I'm sure she's very charming,

979
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:35,320
but you're there
to profile Serena,

980
00:41:35,458 --> 00:41:37,184
not her assistant.

981
00:41:37,322 --> 00:41:41,706
Charming is not the word,
but Abby is very authentic.

982
00:41:41,844 --> 00:41:43,742
I mean, I think she really,
truly believes

983
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,331
in the romantic mission
of the show.

984
00:41:46,469 --> 00:41:49,645
That's not the point
I'm making, Jack.

985
00:41:49,783 --> 00:41:51,923
I get your point, okay?

986
00:41:52,061 --> 00:41:53,925
But there's something weird
going on.

987
00:41:54,063 --> 00:41:56,548
Abby's been pretty dodgy
with some of her answers,

988
00:41:56,686 --> 00:41:59,655
but it makes sense
if her boss has instructed her

989
00:41:59,793 --> 00:42:01,415
not to give me
too much information.

990
00:42:01,553 --> 00:42:03,693
Why would she do that?

991
00:42:03,831 --> 00:42:06,040
You're sounding
a little paranoid.

992
00:42:06,178 --> 00:42:08,526
I don't know,
but I'm gonna figure it out.

993
00:42:08,664 --> 00:42:10,182
I'm about to take a tour
of the show.

994
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,770
I'll do a little digging.

995
00:42:11,908 --> 00:42:15,049
There's more to the story,
I just can tell.

996
00:42:15,187 --> 00:42:17,396
Once you get in there,
really push to spend time

997
00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:18,950
with Serena herself.

998
00:42:19,088 --> 00:42:21,849
Who's the woman
behind the voice?

999
00:42:21,987 --> 00:42:24,818
Hey, I gotta go, uh,
I'll update you.

1000
00:42:28,338 --> 00:42:30,168
- Good morning.
- Good morning.

1001
00:42:30,306 --> 00:42:31,721
- Coffee?
- Thanks.

1002
00:42:31,859 --> 00:42:32,722
You're welcome.

1003
00:42:32,860 --> 00:42:34,034
This is my sister, Brynn.

1004
00:42:34,172 --> 00:42:36,450
Hi, Brynn, Abby's sister,
I'm Jack Whitman.

1005
00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:37,589
Hi, Jack.

1006
00:42:37,727 --> 00:42:39,039
Isn't she brilliant?

1007
00:42:39,177 --> 00:42:41,628
- Brynn.
- She's been very helpful.

1008
00:42:41,766 --> 00:42:42,870
[sighs]

1009
00:42:43,008 --> 00:42:44,251
Brynn has to be going now.

1010
00:42:44,389 --> 00:42:45,528
Well, it's nice to meet you.

1011
00:42:45,666 --> 00:42:46,633
You too.

1012
00:42:46,771 --> 00:42:48,255
♪

1013
00:42:48,393 --> 00:42:50,222
Are you ready
for the grand tour?

1014
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,914
I am thrilled.

1015
00:42:52,052 --> 00:42:53,087
♪

1016
00:42:53,225 --> 00:42:54,399
It's pretty bare bones,

1017
00:42:54,537 --> 00:42:57,333
but we don't need much
to record the show.

1018
00:42:57,471 --> 00:43:01,579
And, you know, it also can be
engineered remotely if needed.

1019
00:43:01,717 --> 00:43:05,824
The most complicated part
is the live calls in.

1020
00:43:05,962 --> 00:43:07,895
Wait a minute, what is this?

1021
00:43:08,033 --> 00:43:09,069
[Abby laughs]

1022
00:43:09,207 --> 00:43:12,797
That's Serena's
Confidence Mirror.

1023
00:43:12,935 --> 00:43:15,523
Just words,
photos of herself,

1024
00:43:15,662 --> 00:43:19,942
and just some
of her favorite features.

1025
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,047
She's pretty photogenic.

1026
00:43:22,185 --> 00:43:23,566
♪

1027
00:43:23,704 --> 00:43:25,603
Yeah.

1028
00:43:25,741 --> 00:43:28,260
The new goal is to have
my profile be good enough

1029
00:43:28,398 --> 00:43:30,159
to make the Confidence Mirror.

1030
00:43:30,297 --> 00:43:31,298
[laughs]

1031
00:43:31,436 --> 00:43:33,162
I'm sure it will.

1032
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:36,268
Serena loves a good story
about herself.

1033
00:43:36,406 --> 00:43:37,442
♪

1034
00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:38,616
[cell phone notifications]

1035
00:43:38,754 --> 00:43:41,895
Speaking of the devil.

1036
00:43:43,344 --> 00:43:45,381
It looks like
we can rebook your meeting

1037
00:43:45,519 --> 00:43:47,521
for tomorrow morning
if that works for you.

1038
00:43:47,659 --> 00:43:49,419
That's fantastic.

1039
00:43:49,557 --> 00:43:50,455
Okay, fantastic.

1040
00:43:50,593 --> 00:43:51,939
Awesome.

1041
00:43:53,872 --> 00:43:57,324
My editor's really
looking forward to the story.

1042
00:43:57,462 --> 00:44:00,016
Gotta say, I'm looking forward
to meeting Serena.

1043
00:44:00,154 --> 00:44:02,398
She really knows
how to build up the suspense.

1044
00:44:02,536 --> 00:44:05,297
I'm sure she'll live up
to expectations,

1045
00:44:05,435 --> 00:44:06,574
she always does.

1046
00:44:06,713 --> 00:44:09,888
New merch,
last round sold really well.

1047
00:44:10,026 --> 00:44:11,545
You should take those.

1048
00:44:11,683 --> 00:44:13,409
You know, you can wear it
when you meet Serena.

1049
00:44:13,547 --> 00:44:16,446
I can make one little bag
for you.

1050
00:44:16,584 --> 00:44:19,553
Okay, if you say so.

1051
00:44:19,691 --> 00:44:21,141
Thanks.

1052
00:44:21,279 --> 00:44:24,178
You know, merchandise
with advertisement on it

1053
00:44:24,316 --> 00:44:26,871
seems a little off-brand
for what I've seen so far

1054
00:44:27,009 --> 00:44:28,355
from the podcast.

1055
00:44:28,493 --> 00:44:30,081
In what way?

1056
00:44:30,219 --> 00:44:33,843
Well, the insights on the show
feel so down to earth.

1057
00:44:33,981 --> 00:44:35,673
There's sort of
a disconnect there

1058
00:44:35,811 --> 00:44:37,571
between the words
and the voice.

1059
00:44:37,709 --> 00:44:38,848
Well, at the end of the day,

1060
00:44:38,986 --> 00:44:41,023
Serena is just
a small-town girl

1061
00:44:41,161 --> 00:44:44,233
trying to mend
one broken heart at a time.

1062
00:44:44,371 --> 00:44:47,167
The merch is part
of that journey.

1063
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,656
And this is the end
of our tour.

1064
00:44:55,554 --> 00:44:56,486
You okay?

1065
00:44:56,624 --> 00:44:57,867
You seem kind of down.

1066
00:44:58,005 --> 00:45:00,007
No, I'm fine, it's just...

1067
00:45:00,145 --> 00:45:01,388
I'm working on a project

1068
00:45:01,526 --> 00:45:04,598
and I'm stuck,
I can't work through it.

1069
00:45:04,736 --> 00:45:06,289
Mm.

1070
00:45:06,427 --> 00:45:08,567
Well, work advice
is the kind of advice

1071
00:45:08,706 --> 00:45:10,777
I can give if you want.

1072
00:45:10,915 --> 00:45:11,778
Sure.

1073
00:45:11,916 --> 00:45:14,919
Literally do as bad as possible.

1074
00:45:15,057 --> 00:45:16,472
Really? Why?

1075
00:45:16,610 --> 00:45:18,716
Well, when you take out
the expectation,

1076
00:45:18,854 --> 00:45:20,545
the good version
will come out.

1077
00:45:20,683 --> 00:45:22,305
It's kind of
a writing secret of mine.

1078
00:45:22,443 --> 00:45:24,238
I call it the "bad version."

1079
00:45:24,376 --> 00:45:26,931
It takes confidence
to be willing to fail,

1080
00:45:27,069 --> 00:45:29,381
and it almost always works.

1081
00:45:30,831 --> 00:45:32,350
Thank you.

1082
00:45:32,488 --> 00:45:35,008
[birds chirping]

1083
00:45:36,285 --> 00:45:39,184
Write the bad version.

1084
00:45:39,322 --> 00:45:41,186
Okay.

1085
00:45:41,324 --> 00:45:44,051
♪

1086
00:45:44,189 --> 00:45:46,088
♪ Bring it on

1087
00:45:46,226 --> 00:45:51,438
♪

1088
00:45:51,576 --> 00:45:53,129
♪ Bring it on

1089
00:45:53,267 --> 00:45:54,752
♪

1090
00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:58,445
♪ I'm ready for somethin',
somethin' new ♪

1091
00:45:58,583 --> 00:46:02,104
♪ I'm ready to show the world
what I can do ♪

1092
00:46:02,242 --> 00:46:05,763
♪ It's gonna be rockin',
that's all I can say ♪

1093
00:46:05,901 --> 00:46:09,767
♪ No reason to stop
'cause I'm goin' all the way ♪

1094
00:46:09,905 --> 00:46:11,147
♪

1095
00:46:11,285 --> 00:46:13,771
♪ Come on, bring it on ♪

1096
00:46:13,909 --> 00:46:17,844
♪ Got the wind on my back,
I'm feelin' strong ♪

1097
00:46:17,982 --> 00:46:19,949
♪ Got my flag unfurled

1098
00:46:20,087 --> 00:46:21,675
♪ I'm singin' this song ♪

1099
00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:24,816
I can't believe that worked,
can you?

1100
00:46:24,954 --> 00:46:26,128
[sighs]

1101
00:46:26,266 --> 00:46:28,026
And it's actually really good.

1102
00:46:28,164 --> 00:46:29,856
Serena's gonna be so psyched.

1103
00:46:29,994 --> 00:46:30,857
[sighs]

1104
00:46:30,995 --> 00:46:32,099
[typing]

1105
00:46:32,237 --> 00:46:37,242
Spring Fling segment
is in your inbox.

1106
00:46:38,278 --> 00:46:40,521
Excited about this one.

1107
00:46:42,454 --> 00:46:44,767
[pen scratching]

1108
00:46:44,905 --> 00:46:47,425
[cell phone ringing]

1109
00:46:49,737 --> 00:46:50,635
Hey, Diane.

1110
00:46:50,773 --> 00:46:52,568
Hi. You okay?

1111
00:46:52,706 --> 00:46:54,950
Yeah, just wrapping up
a workout.

1112
00:46:55,088 --> 00:46:56,296
I got your message.

1113
00:46:56,434 --> 00:46:58,954
Serena's finally confirmed
her interview.

1114
00:46:59,092 --> 00:47:00,127
Tomorrow.

1115
00:47:00,265 --> 00:47:01,957
I have a lot of questions
for her.

1116
00:47:02,095 --> 00:47:03,337
I hate to admit it,

1117
00:47:03,475 --> 00:47:05,132
but I think the woman
knows what she's talking about.

1118
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:07,203
You're starting to sound
like a romantic.

1119
00:47:07,341 --> 00:47:09,067
Cough twice
if you need rescuing.

1120
00:47:09,205 --> 00:47:11,380
Don't worry,
I'm still a skeptic.

1121
00:47:11,518 --> 00:47:12,760
She's still being evasive,

1122
00:47:12,899 --> 00:47:16,212
but maybe a show
with this large of a platform

1123
00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:18,318
is actually helping people.

1124
00:47:19,215 --> 00:47:20,630
Go get 'em.

1125
00:47:21,597 --> 00:47:22,460
[laughs]

1126
00:47:22,598 --> 00:47:23,806
Thanks, Diane.

1127
00:47:23,944 --> 00:47:31,227
♪

1128
00:47:31,365 --> 00:47:33,609
I thought you said
he was from New York.

1129
00:47:33,747 --> 00:47:36,439
He's originally
from Boyne City, Michigan,

1130
00:47:36,577 --> 00:47:38,476
but he's lived in New York City
for a decade.

1131
00:47:38,614 --> 00:47:39,753
Mm-hm.

1132
00:47:39,891 --> 00:47:41,375
Did you review the list
that I sent you

1133
00:47:41,513 --> 00:47:44,931
with all the areas of interest
and his journalism background?

1134
00:47:45,069 --> 00:47:46,311
[snaps]

1135
00:47:46,449 --> 00:47:47,588
♪

1136
00:47:47,726 --> 00:47:51,869
I did, but, wow, Abby,
it was so dense.

1137
00:47:52,007 --> 00:47:54,561
You like this guy or something?

1138
00:47:54,699 --> 00:47:55,873
No.

1139
00:47:56,011 --> 00:47:58,910
Well, back off, he's mine!

1140
00:47:59,048 --> 00:47:59,842
♪

1141
00:47:59,980 --> 00:48:02,327
[laughs]

1142
00:48:02,465 --> 00:48:05,020
Ah, we have fun.

1143
00:48:05,158 --> 00:48:06,711
I'm gonna finish getting ready.

1144
00:48:06,849 --> 00:48:08,368
♪

1145
00:48:08,506 --> 00:48:10,473
This'll be perfect.

1146
00:48:10,611 --> 00:48:11,923
First I'll do the interview

1147
00:48:12,061 --> 00:48:15,444
and then I'll take him
to lunch, someplace public,

1148
00:48:15,582 --> 00:48:17,722
make sure
people spot us together.

1149
00:48:17,860 --> 00:48:18,930
[laughs]

1150
00:48:19,068 --> 00:48:20,035
♪

1151
00:48:20,173 --> 00:48:21,760
Uh, Abby.

1152
00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:23,866
Could you make sure
the main room is tidied up

1153
00:48:24,004 --> 00:48:25,972
before he gets here?

1154
00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:27,525
Sure, Serena.

1155
00:48:27,663 --> 00:48:42,540
♪

1156
00:48:42,678 --> 00:48:44,093
Hey.

1157
00:48:44,231 --> 00:48:46,371
What do you think?

1158
00:48:46,509 --> 00:48:47,821
No good.

1159
00:48:47,959 --> 00:48:48,822
It's too much.

1160
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,307
- It's perfect.
- Okay.

1161
00:48:51,445 --> 00:48:52,999
Can I get you anything?

1162
00:48:53,137 --> 00:48:56,071
Um, some water would be nice.

1163
00:48:56,209 --> 00:48:57,382
Thank you.

1164
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,901
♪

1165
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:02,008
This hat is a bit much.

1166
00:49:02,146 --> 00:49:03,388
[muttering]

1167
00:49:03,526 --> 00:49:05,666
♪

1168
00:49:08,221 --> 00:49:09,981
Jack, hello.

1169
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:13,088
I'm so sorry, I hope
I didn't keep you waiting.

1170
00:49:13,226 --> 00:49:14,675
Oh, okay.

1171
00:49:14,813 --> 00:49:15,883
That's nice.

1172
00:49:16,022 --> 00:49:19,370
Um, it's nice
to finally meet you.

1173
00:49:19,508 --> 00:49:21,820
Abby has done
such a wonderful job

1174
00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:23,753
familiarizing me
with your work.

1175
00:49:23,891 --> 00:49:25,376
Oh, good.

1176
00:49:25,514 --> 00:49:27,585
I hope she didn't
talk your ear off.

1177
00:49:27,723 --> 00:49:28,586
♪

1178
00:49:28,724 --> 00:49:30,622
Kidding, Abby.

1179
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,523
Jack, I just love
our hat on you.

1180
00:49:34,661 --> 00:49:36,697
- Thank you.
- Abby.

1181
00:49:36,835 --> 00:49:38,768
Shouldn't we have Jack
model merchandise

1182
00:49:38,906 --> 00:49:40,322
for our website?

1183
00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:42,669
Sales would skyrocket.

1184
00:49:42,807 --> 00:49:44,567
[Jack sighs]

1185
00:49:44,705 --> 00:49:45,844
Not that we've had an issue.

1186
00:49:45,983 --> 00:49:48,813
Those hats are selling
like hotcakes.

1187
00:49:48,951 --> 00:49:50,125
Do you mind if I record?

1188
00:49:50,263 --> 00:49:52,161
- No, not at all.
- Great.

1189
00:49:52,299 --> 00:49:53,991
[recording device beeps]

1190
00:49:54,129 --> 00:49:56,131
Red leather, yellow leather.

1191
00:49:56,269 --> 00:49:57,304
Red leather, yellow--

1192
00:49:57,442 --> 00:49:58,305
[clears throat]

1193
00:49:58,443 --> 00:50:00,135
Um--oh, you ready?

1194
00:50:00,273 --> 00:50:01,584
Yeah.

1195
00:50:01,722 --> 00:50:04,794
Well, I am so glad
you've taken an interest

1196
00:50:04,932 --> 00:50:06,658
in my humble little show.

1197
00:50:06,796 --> 00:50:10,041
I would hardly call
your listenership humble

1198
00:50:10,179 --> 00:50:11,387
at this point.

1199
00:50:11,525 --> 00:50:13,665
You've made quite a splash
industry-wide.

1200
00:50:13,803 --> 00:50:16,151
Well, that's kind of you to say.

1201
00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:19,016
You know,
with enough hard work,

1202
00:50:19,154 --> 00:50:20,914
anything is possible.

1203
00:50:21,052 --> 00:50:24,814
And my listeners
are everything to me.

1204
00:50:24,952 --> 00:50:26,230
They feel like they know me,

1205
00:50:26,368 --> 00:50:28,128
and I have to say,

1206
00:50:28,266 --> 00:50:33,409
after hearing from so many
of them every single week,

1207
00:50:33,547 --> 00:50:36,999
I feel like I know them too.

1208
00:50:37,137 --> 00:50:38,483
I'm very lucky.

1209
00:50:38,621 --> 00:50:43,109
♪

1210
00:50:43,247 --> 00:50:45,525
And that's how it started.

1211
00:50:45,663 --> 00:50:48,045
That's quite a journey
to where you are now.

1212
00:50:48,183 --> 00:50:51,013
Well, Jack, you know,
at the end of the day,

1213
00:50:51,151 --> 00:50:53,050
I am just a small-town girl

1214
00:50:53,188 --> 00:50:56,777
trying to help mend
one broken heart at a time.

1215
00:50:56,915 --> 00:50:59,849
♪

1216
00:51:00,919 --> 00:51:02,749
Everything okay?

1217
00:51:02,887 --> 00:51:04,923
Uh, of course.

1218
00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:06,373
[clears throat]

1219
00:51:06,511 --> 00:51:09,238
So, Serena,
I would be remiss

1220
00:51:09,376 --> 00:51:13,173
if I didn't ask you about
your last relationship ending.

1221
00:51:13,311 --> 00:51:18,109
Oh, I didn't realize we were
going to be covering that.

1222
00:51:18,247 --> 00:51:19,559
Uh, if you're okay with it.

1223
00:51:19,697 --> 00:51:22,148
I only ask
because rumors of the breakup

1224
00:51:22,286 --> 00:51:24,495
have become a bit invasive,

1225
00:51:24,633 --> 00:51:26,635
and since you deal in romance,

1226
00:51:26,773 --> 00:51:29,879
I have an obligation
to the readers to inquire.

1227
00:51:31,778 --> 00:51:33,745
[mouthing words]

1228
00:51:33,883 --> 00:51:37,439
You know, part of my job
is advising people

1229
00:51:37,577 --> 00:51:39,510
when their relationship
isn't working,

1230
00:51:39,648 --> 00:51:44,239
and I had to be honest
with myself, and with him.

1231
00:51:44,377 --> 00:51:47,587
We each deserve
our own happiness

1232
00:51:47,725 --> 00:51:49,865
and wish each other
the best.

1233
00:51:50,003 --> 00:51:51,936
If that means
we have to stand alone

1234
00:51:52,074 --> 00:51:53,420
or with someone else,

1235
00:51:53,558 --> 00:51:57,252
well, then that's
what we need to do.

1236
00:51:57,390 --> 00:51:58,874
Wow, well, that's great.

1237
00:51:59,012 --> 00:52:01,946
I can see why you're the person
to dole out advice.

1238
00:52:02,084 --> 00:52:03,499
Thank you for answering.

1239
00:52:03,637 --> 00:52:05,777
And I must say
that some advice you gave

1240
00:52:05,915 --> 00:52:07,779
on a previous episode
helped me

1241
00:52:07,917 --> 00:52:10,023
with my relationship
with my ex too.

1242
00:52:10,161 --> 00:52:11,162
Oh, really?

1243
00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:12,370
Oh, I'm glad to hear it.

1244
00:52:12,508 --> 00:52:16,857
Yes, it was an episode
about closure.

1245
00:52:16,995 --> 00:52:20,999
And you were talking about
the need to take things slow.

1246
00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:23,243
What was it
that you were saying. Um...

1247
00:52:23,381 --> 00:52:28,283
Uh, well, you know, uh,
there have been so many--

1248
00:52:28,421 --> 00:52:31,527
There is no timeline
for healing.

1249
00:52:31,665 --> 00:52:33,011
Yeah, that's right.

1250
00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:35,807
There's no timeline for healing.

1251
00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:37,499
You were telling
your listeners

1252
00:52:37,637 --> 00:52:40,295
not to rush through
the process of loss,

1253
00:52:40,433 --> 00:52:44,471
to live in the feelings
on their own schedule.

1254
00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:46,335
♪

1255
00:52:46,473 --> 00:52:47,819
Because there's...

1256
00:52:47,957 --> 00:52:50,546
There's no timeline for healing.

1257
00:52:50,684 --> 00:52:51,823
- Right.
- Right.

1258
00:52:51,961 --> 00:52:54,136
It made me wish
that I had your podcast

1259
00:52:54,274 --> 00:52:55,689
during that breakup,

1260
00:52:55,827 --> 00:53:00,142
though I'm happy now
people get to use that advice

1261
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:01,695
when they may need it the most.

1262
00:53:01,833 --> 00:53:05,182
Well, I hope those people
buy merchandise.

1263
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,839
[giggles]

1264
00:53:08,633 --> 00:53:10,980
[clears throat]

1265
00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:15,882
And, of course, I am glad
I could have been of help

1266
00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:20,645
and healing to you
and to all of my listeners.

1267
00:53:21,922 --> 00:53:25,616
Um, do you need
a couple minutes

1268
00:53:25,754 --> 00:53:28,688
before we proceed
with a few more questions?

1269
00:53:28,826 --> 00:53:30,448
Actually, I have
an even better idea.

1270
00:53:30,586 --> 00:53:31,760
I was thinking,

1271
00:53:31,898 --> 00:53:35,695
what if you could really see me
in my element?

1272
00:53:35,833 --> 00:53:38,767
You want me to attend
a recording of yours?

1273
00:53:38,905 --> 00:53:40,355
Even better.

1274
00:53:40,493 --> 00:53:43,944
You are going to escort me
to the National Podcast Awards

1275
00:53:44,082 --> 00:53:46,292
at the end of the week.

1276
00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:47,293
Um...

1277
00:53:47,431 --> 00:53:48,397
[Jack chuckles]

1278
00:53:48,535 --> 00:53:50,572
I actually don't date--

1279
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:52,090
Oh, platonically.

1280
00:53:52,229 --> 00:53:54,541
Jack, really.

1281
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:56,957
It's gonna be a fabulous party.

1282
00:53:57,095 --> 00:54:00,098
You'll get to see me
among members of the industry.

1283
00:54:00,237 --> 00:54:03,585
It'll be a great
insider perspective for you.

1284
00:54:03,723 --> 00:54:05,932
We'll have a great time.

1285
00:54:06,070 --> 00:54:08,417
I won't take no for an answer.

1286
00:54:09,901 --> 00:54:12,041
Okay, uh...

1287
00:54:12,179 --> 00:54:14,389
I guess I'm in.

1288
00:54:14,527 --> 00:54:15,804
Hurray!

1289
00:54:15,942 --> 00:54:18,151
I hope you packed a suit.

1290
00:54:20,705 --> 00:54:21,568
You know...

1291
00:54:21,706 --> 00:54:22,880
[clears throat]

1292
00:54:23,018 --> 00:54:26,090
I don't know about you,
but I am famished.

1293
00:54:26,228 --> 00:54:29,611
Maybe we could take this
little interview to lunch?

1294
00:54:29,749 --> 00:54:32,061
Sure, I can do that.

1295
00:54:32,199 --> 00:54:33,580
Abby will be joining us?

1296
00:54:33,718 --> 00:54:36,445
Oh, Abby is so busy, unfortunately.

1297
00:54:36,583 --> 00:54:40,622
But don't worry, she'll be
at the Podcast Awards as well.

1298
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,486
I like to give my employees
little perks

1299
00:54:42,624 --> 00:54:44,626
whenever I can, you know.

1300
00:54:45,730 --> 00:54:47,905
Let me grab my things.

1301
00:54:48,043 --> 00:54:49,562
Okay.

1302
00:54:53,082 --> 00:54:54,532
[indistinct chatter]

1303
00:54:54,670 --> 00:54:56,431
I think to be qualified
to give advice,

1304
00:54:56,569 --> 00:54:59,019
you really have to live,
you know?

1305
00:54:59,157 --> 00:55:01,090
Actually, that's a good segue.

1306
00:55:01,228 --> 00:55:02,437
Mm-hm.

1307
00:55:02,575 --> 00:55:05,302
What advice
would you give this couple?

1308
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,856
Well, I don't know them, silly.

1309
00:55:07,994 --> 00:55:09,064
Yeah, I know,

1310
00:55:09,202 --> 00:55:10,445
but based off
their body language,

1311
00:55:10,583 --> 00:55:13,102
do you have
any initial insights?

1312
00:55:14,932 --> 00:55:18,038
I think they need to go see
a stylist together.

1313
00:55:18,176 --> 00:55:21,214
[laughs]

1314
00:55:21,352 --> 00:55:22,802
- Serena!
- Oh.

1315
00:55:22,940 --> 00:55:24,666
Oh, my--
for goodness sakes,

1316
00:55:24,804 --> 00:55:26,357
I'm so sorry, Jack.

1317
00:55:26,495 --> 00:55:27,462
Who's the new guy?

1318
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,878
Oh, just smile and wave.

1319
00:55:30,016 --> 00:55:32,225
Does this happen to you often?

1320
00:55:32,363 --> 00:55:34,331
Oh, such a bother.

1321
00:55:34,469 --> 00:55:36,402
♪

1322
00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:37,472
Seriously, just smile.

1323
00:55:37,610 --> 00:55:38,887
They'll take the picture
and go.

1324
00:55:39,025 --> 00:55:41,648
[camera shutters clicking]

1325
00:55:41,786 --> 00:55:44,202
♪

1326
00:55:44,341 --> 00:55:45,307
Beautiful.

1327
00:55:45,445 --> 00:55:46,688
Mm-hm.

1328
00:55:46,826 --> 00:55:50,312
♪

1329
00:55:50,450 --> 00:55:51,658
[sighs]

1330
00:55:51,796 --> 00:55:53,211
♪

1331
00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:56,353
I just wish people would see me
as a normal person, you know?

1332
00:55:56,491 --> 00:56:03,843
♪

1333
00:56:03,981 --> 00:56:05,741
Thanks, Russ.

1334
00:56:05,879 --> 00:56:08,330
As always, I appreciate
your discretion.

1335
00:56:08,468 --> 00:56:10,746
Any time, Serena.

1336
00:56:10,884 --> 00:56:12,990
Pleasure doing business with ya.

1337
00:56:13,128 --> 00:56:19,341
♪

1338
00:56:19,479 --> 00:56:21,619
Lucy, you need two hands
for that.

1339
00:56:21,757 --> 00:56:24,346
Aunt Abby,
this is your boss, right?

1340
00:56:24,484 --> 00:56:26,383
Yep, that's Serena.

1341
00:56:26,521 --> 00:56:28,454
Mm. And that's the guy you like?

1342
00:56:28,592 --> 00:56:31,077
Um, Brynn.

1343
00:56:31,215 --> 00:56:33,631
What? We value honesty
in our house.

1344
00:56:33,769 --> 00:56:35,253
I don't like him, like him.

1345
00:56:35,392 --> 00:56:36,462
It's professional.

1346
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:37,739
♪

1347
00:56:37,877 --> 00:56:39,844
What did I say
about valuing honesty?

1348
00:56:39,982 --> 00:56:41,087
What?

1349
00:56:41,225 --> 00:56:42,537
♪

1350
00:56:42,675 --> 00:56:46,368
Okay, maybe I like him a little.

1351
00:56:46,506 --> 00:56:48,128
But it doesn't even matter.

1352
00:56:48,266 --> 00:56:50,061
He lives in New York.

1353
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:51,442
He hates love.

1354
00:56:51,580 --> 00:56:54,203
And he thinks
Serena's the brilliant one.

1355
00:56:54,341 --> 00:56:56,067
♪

1356
00:56:56,205 --> 00:56:58,173
But you're the brilliant one.

1357
00:56:58,311 --> 00:57:00,831
Yeah, I mean, you're the real
writer of Love's Listening.

1358
00:57:00,969 --> 00:57:04,421
If he likes her words,
he likes your words.

1359
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:07,285
Yeah, but if I tell him,
I could get fired.

1360
00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:10,427
I think if you like him,
you should just tell him.

1361
00:57:10,565 --> 00:57:11,842
Agreed.

1362
00:57:11,980 --> 00:57:14,603
If you start putting yourself
out there in love,

1363
00:57:14,741 --> 00:57:18,227
maybe you'll start getting
what you want at work.

1364
00:57:18,365 --> 00:57:19,746
♪

1365
00:57:19,884 --> 00:57:23,025
You've been hiding
since your breakup.

1366
00:57:23,163 --> 00:57:26,097
Yeah, it's been literally years.

1367
00:57:26,235 --> 00:57:27,582
♪

1368
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,411
You're right, I know.

1369
00:57:29,549 --> 00:57:31,586
It's just I always thought

1370
00:57:31,724 --> 00:57:35,003
that it would be like
Dad told us growing up.

1371
00:57:35,141 --> 00:57:37,799
You have to keep your head down,
work hard,

1372
00:57:37,937 --> 00:57:39,559
and you'll get rewarded.

1373
00:57:39,697 --> 00:57:44,253
I love Dad, but that advice
doesn't really work for women.

1374
00:57:44,391 --> 00:57:45,600
♪

1375
00:57:45,738 --> 00:57:47,291
What do I always tell you?

1376
00:57:47,429 --> 00:57:49,258
Don't be afraid
to say what you want

1377
00:57:49,396 --> 00:57:50,259
and what you deserve.

1378
00:57:50,397 --> 00:57:51,778
That's right.

1379
00:57:51,916 --> 00:57:53,953
The work hard
is only part of it.

1380
00:57:54,091 --> 00:57:56,334
You have to stand up
for yourself too.

1381
00:57:56,473 --> 00:57:57,612
Always remember that.

1382
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:58,923
Of course.

1383
00:57:59,061 --> 00:58:01,443
♪

1384
00:58:01,581 --> 00:58:02,789
Okay, let's finish this up.

1385
00:58:02,927 --> 00:58:04,515
I'm starving.

1386
00:58:04,653 --> 00:58:10,210
♪

1387
00:58:10,348 --> 00:58:12,005
Cassie.

1388
00:58:12,143 --> 00:58:15,146
I think you know the answer
to your question deep down,

1389
00:58:15,284 --> 00:58:17,942
but maybe you just don't want
to admit it.

1390
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,082
How 'bout you?

1391
00:58:20,220 --> 00:58:25,363
I don't know, I just feel
like we could compromise?

1392
00:58:25,502 --> 00:58:28,263
Well, compromise
can be a great thing,

1393
00:58:28,401 --> 00:58:32,301
unless you end up
resenting someone for it later.

1394
00:58:32,439 --> 00:58:34,372
Could you leave your dream job,

1395
00:58:34,511 --> 00:58:35,581
move across the country,

1396
00:58:35,719 --> 00:58:37,375
away from your support network,

1397
00:58:37,514 --> 00:58:41,828
and not resent him for it
six months from now?

1398
00:58:41,966 --> 00:58:43,968
Probably not.

1399
00:58:45,383 --> 00:58:47,351
Well, then I'm so sorry
to say it,

1400
00:58:47,489 --> 00:58:51,044
but I think
you have your answer.

1401
00:58:51,182 --> 00:58:54,945
It's better to have this hard,
honest conversation with him now

1402
00:58:55,083 --> 00:58:59,259
than bottle it up
and resent him for it later.

1403
00:58:59,397 --> 00:59:02,331
Perhaps the two of you could try
long distance for a while,

1404
00:59:02,469 --> 00:59:04,368
maybe see how it goes?

1405
00:59:04,506 --> 00:59:06,957
You're right,
I think I knew the answer,

1406
00:59:07,095 --> 00:59:08,752
but I needed to hear it.

1407
00:59:08,890 --> 00:59:11,202
Thank you, Serena.

1408
00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:13,239
Of course, Cassie.

1409
00:59:13,377 --> 00:59:15,344
Love's Listening
is rooting for you

1410
00:59:15,482 --> 00:59:17,726
no matter what you decide.

1411
00:59:17,864 --> 00:59:20,384
Thank you so much
for calling in.

1412
00:59:22,524 --> 00:59:25,872
And thank you, everyone,
for tuning in today.

1413
00:59:26,010 --> 00:59:28,910
Give us a call
if you need any advice.

1414
00:59:29,048 --> 00:59:31,222
And, as always, darlings,

1415
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,365
I'm Serena Shephard
and Love's Listening.

1416
00:59:37,677 --> 00:59:39,748
Engineer says we're clear.

1417
00:59:39,886 --> 00:59:42,026
Ah. Excellent.

1418
00:59:44,339 --> 00:59:45,582
Ah.

1419
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,031
[Abby sighs]

1420
00:59:47,169 --> 00:59:48,239
Hey.

1421
00:59:48,377 --> 00:59:50,103
You're trending on Twitter.

1422
00:59:50,241 --> 00:59:52,381
Oh.

1423
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:55,453
Oh my.

1424
00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:58,733
Looks like
the highest live numbers ever.

1425
00:59:58,871 --> 01:00:00,562
Nearly five million listeners.

1426
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:02,771
[shrieking]

1427
01:00:02,909 --> 01:00:03,979
Oh my.

1428
01:00:04,117 --> 01:00:06,085
[shrieking continues]

1429
01:00:06,223 --> 01:00:07,742
I think this calls
for some bubbly.

1430
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,777
Okay, I'm gonna go get it.

1431
01:00:08,915 --> 01:00:10,158
Oh, Abby.

1432
01:00:10,296 --> 01:00:11,953
You wouldn't know which bottle
was celebratory.

1433
01:00:12,091 --> 01:00:13,748
I'll get it.

1434
01:00:13,886 --> 01:00:15,059
Meet me in the main room?

1435
01:00:15,197 --> 01:00:16,578
Sure.

1436
01:00:16,716 --> 01:00:18,580
Five million!

1437
01:00:19,581 --> 01:00:20,893
[excited squealing]

1438
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:24,103
Congratulations.

1439
01:00:24,241 --> 01:00:24,966
Thank you.

1440
01:00:25,104 --> 01:00:26,830
That's Serena's show.

1441
01:00:27,934 --> 01:00:29,867
Is it?

1442
01:00:30,005 --> 01:00:30,972
What are all these notes

1443
01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:32,974
you keep flashing
in front of her?

1444
01:00:33,112 --> 01:00:34,941
They're just timing notes

1445
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:37,288
to let her know
when to wrap it up

1446
01:00:37,426 --> 01:00:39,532
or move on.

1447
01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:41,258
Ah-ha.

1448
01:00:41,396 --> 01:00:42,535
♪

1449
01:00:42,673 --> 01:00:44,675
Well, should we join her?

1450
01:00:44,813 --> 01:00:45,711
Yeah.

1451
01:00:45,849 --> 01:01:00,173
♪

1452
01:01:00,311 --> 01:01:02,244
You know...

1453
01:01:02,382 --> 01:01:05,627
I don't have any good bottles
of bubbly.

1454
01:01:05,765 --> 01:01:07,077
Let's go out to celebrate.

1455
01:01:07,215 --> 01:01:09,804
Yeah, okay. Sure.

1456
01:01:09,942 --> 01:01:12,047
- I'll go grab my purse.
- Oh, no, Abby,

1457
01:01:12,185 --> 01:01:15,085
there's so much to do to prepare
for the Podcast Awards,

1458
01:01:15,223 --> 01:01:17,328
I need you here
manning the fort while I'm out.

1459
01:01:17,466 --> 01:01:19,227
Oh, I can move things around.

1460
01:01:19,365 --> 01:01:20,746
- No problem.
- Oh, no, Abby,

1461
01:01:20,884 --> 01:01:24,819
you have so many more
important things to tend to.

1462
01:01:24,957 --> 01:01:27,545
Serena, I can take care
about it later.

1463
01:01:27,684 --> 01:01:28,823
It's not a big deal.

1464
01:01:28,961 --> 01:01:32,999
I think you should
sit this one out.

1465
01:01:33,137 --> 01:01:35,484
I need a few things done
while I'm out.

1466
01:01:35,622 --> 01:01:37,555
I'll get you the list.

1467
01:01:37,694 --> 01:01:38,591
♪

1468
01:01:38,729 --> 01:01:41,145
Meet you outside, Jack?

1469
01:01:41,283 --> 01:01:51,915
♪

1470
01:01:52,053 --> 01:01:57,127
Do not ever contradict me
in front of anyone ever again.

1471
01:01:57,265 --> 01:02:00,026
- Serena...
- If you have free time,

1472
01:02:00,164 --> 01:02:02,511
we'll remedy that.

1473
01:02:02,649 --> 01:02:04,686
Keep your phone on.

1474
01:02:04,824 --> 01:02:10,519
♪

1475
01:02:10,657 --> 01:02:12,590
I think I need to come home.

1476
01:02:12,729 --> 01:02:15,421
Do you have everything you need
for the story?

1477
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:17,906
It's complicated.

1478
01:02:18,044 --> 01:02:20,253
The assistant.

1479
01:02:20,391 --> 01:02:22,221
No.

1480
01:02:22,359 --> 01:02:23,049
Why?

1481
01:02:23,187 --> 01:02:24,913
What do you mean?

1482
01:02:25,051 --> 01:02:27,226
- Jack...
- Nothing happened, okay?

1483
01:02:27,364 --> 01:02:28,468
I'm a professional.

1484
01:02:28,606 --> 01:02:30,056
It's not like that.

1485
01:02:30,194 --> 01:02:32,438
But this whole situation
is strange.

1486
01:02:32,576 --> 01:02:35,165
You know, I don't think
Serena is who she says she is,

1487
01:02:35,303 --> 01:02:39,238
but I can't accuse her
without something solid.

1488
01:02:39,376 --> 01:02:40,480
Then it sounds like
you don't have

1489
01:02:40,618 --> 01:02:42,448
everything you need
for a story.

1490
01:02:42,586 --> 01:02:47,177
This is not the story
I was supposed to be writing.

1491
01:02:47,315 --> 01:02:50,387
No, but this one sounds better.

1492
01:02:50,525 --> 01:02:53,114
Stick with it.

1493
01:02:53,252 --> 01:02:54,978
Goodbye, Jack.

1494
01:02:55,116 --> 01:02:57,428
Bye, Diane.

1495
01:02:57,566 --> 01:02:58,567
♪

1496
01:02:58,705 --> 01:03:01,053
[sighing]

1497
01:03:01,191 --> 01:03:20,866
♪

1498
01:03:21,004 --> 01:03:23,454
[sighing, unintelligible]

1499
01:03:23,592 --> 01:03:25,491
♪

1500
01:03:25,629 --> 01:03:28,563
- Aunt Abby, you're late.
- And you're a mess.

1501
01:03:28,701 --> 01:03:32,222
Serena had me do
a ton of extra errands.

1502
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,707
Prop me up against the wall
and make me look fabulous.

1503
01:03:34,845 --> 01:03:36,674
I'm gonna take a nap
while you're doing it.

1504
01:03:36,813 --> 01:03:37,952
Uh, no, you're not.

1505
01:03:38,090 --> 01:03:39,160
Lucy, get this woman
a cafecito.

1506
01:03:39,298 --> 01:03:41,507
We have a lot of work to do.

1507
01:03:41,645 --> 01:03:49,239
♪

1508
01:03:49,377 --> 01:03:50,516
Hello, and welcome

1509
01:03:50,654 --> 01:03:53,415
to the National Podcast Awards
ceremony.

1510
01:03:53,553 --> 01:03:55,003
Tonight, we get to see
the faces

1511
01:03:55,141 --> 01:03:58,524
behind some of the most
fascinating voices in audio.

1512
01:03:58,662 --> 01:04:00,491
Entering now
is Serena Shephard,

1513
01:04:00,629 --> 01:04:04,323
host of the immensely popular
podcast, Love's Listening.

1514
01:04:04,461 --> 01:04:06,981
Serena, you look stunning,
as always.

1515
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:09,397
Thank you so much.

1516
01:04:09,535 --> 01:04:11,157
You're up
for Podcast of the Year.

1517
01:04:11,295 --> 01:04:12,641
How are you feeling?

1518
01:04:12,779 --> 01:04:14,920
Absolutely fabulous.

1519
01:04:15,058 --> 01:04:17,198
It's such an honor.

1520
01:04:17,336 --> 01:04:18,751
And is this your date tonight?

1521
01:04:18,889 --> 01:04:19,890
Oh, yes.

1522
01:04:20,028 --> 01:04:22,513
This is Jack Whitman,

1523
01:04:22,651 --> 01:04:25,896
the renowned journalist
from The Times Daily.

1524
01:04:26,034 --> 01:04:27,864
Isn't he fabulous?

1525
01:04:28,002 --> 01:04:28,934
Are you two together?

1526
01:04:29,072 --> 01:04:30,280
No, uh, we just came to the...

1527
01:04:30,418 --> 01:04:33,386
- Yes!
- ...event together.

1528
01:04:33,524 --> 01:04:36,010
Will you--I'm sorry, will you
excuse me for a minute?

1529
01:04:36,148 --> 01:04:37,839
Of course.

1530
01:04:37,977 --> 01:04:41,187
♪

1531
01:04:41,325 --> 01:04:42,913
He's just a little camera shy.

1532
01:04:43,051 --> 01:04:46,537
- You understand.
- Of course.

1533
01:04:46,675 --> 01:04:48,539
Will you excuse me
for a minute?

1534
01:04:48,677 --> 01:04:50,679
Yes, of course.
Good luck tonight, Serena.

1535
01:04:50,817 --> 01:04:52,578
Thank you.

1536
01:04:52,716 --> 01:04:54,476
♪

1537
01:04:54,614 --> 01:04:56,375
It looks like love
is not only listening,

1538
01:04:56,513 --> 01:04:59,033
it is speaking up tonight
on the red carpet.

1539
01:04:59,171 --> 01:05:01,242
Entering now...

1540
01:05:01,380 --> 01:05:02,691
♪

1541
01:05:02,829 --> 01:05:04,970
Thank you.

1542
01:05:05,108 --> 01:05:06,212
Sorry.

1543
01:05:06,350 --> 01:05:08,766
[indistinct lyrics]

1544
01:05:08,905 --> 01:05:12,632
♪

1545
01:05:12,770 --> 01:05:13,840
[clearing throat]

1546
01:05:13,979 --> 01:05:16,982
Serena, I don't know
what that was,

1547
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,742
- but I don't appreciate it.
- I don't understand.

1548
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,606
Most men would be thrilled
to be out with me.

1549
01:05:20,744 --> 01:05:22,435
I am not most men.

1550
01:05:22,573 --> 01:05:24,299
I feel like I have been
more than patient

1551
01:05:24,437 --> 01:05:26,060
with this whole situation,

1552
01:05:26,198 --> 01:05:27,406
but I'm a journalist.

1553
01:05:27,544 --> 01:05:29,580
I am doing a story on you.

1554
01:05:29,718 --> 01:05:31,513
We are not dating each other.

1555
01:05:31,651 --> 01:05:34,758
And you know that,
so what's going on?

1556
01:05:34,896 --> 01:05:36,346
I just...

1557
01:05:36,484 --> 01:05:38,244
I will walk out on this event,

1558
01:05:38,382 --> 01:05:40,937
and I will include it
in my story.

1559
01:05:41,075 --> 01:05:42,421
♪

1560
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:44,837
Wait!

1561
01:05:44,975 --> 01:05:48,358
I'm sorry, okay?

1562
01:05:48,496 --> 01:05:50,636
I am the voice
of a romance brand,

1563
01:05:50,774 --> 01:05:54,260
and the press since the breakup
has been humiliating.

1564
01:05:54,398 --> 01:05:57,091
I was just trying to save face.

1565
01:05:57,229 --> 01:05:59,783
- Are you happy?
- I understand that,

1566
01:05:59,921 --> 01:06:01,647
and I appreciate your honesty,

1567
01:06:01,785 --> 01:06:03,994
but I am not to be used
like some puppet

1568
01:06:04,132 --> 01:06:05,306
in front of the press.

1569
01:06:05,444 --> 01:06:07,791
I am the press, okay?

1570
01:06:07,929 --> 01:06:09,275
And I'm a professional.

1571
01:06:09,413 --> 01:06:12,313
This is business.

1572
01:06:12,451 --> 01:06:14,936
Well, you seemed
awfully comfortable with Abby

1573
01:06:15,074 --> 01:06:16,110
the other day.

1574
01:06:16,248 --> 01:06:18,146
Was that professional as well?

1575
01:06:18,284 --> 01:06:20,666
Maybe get off your high horse.

1576
01:06:20,804 --> 01:06:24,014
Okay, what do you want me
to say?

1577
01:06:24,152 --> 01:06:25,636
You're such a catch.

1578
01:06:25,774 --> 01:06:27,293
I can't believe you're single.

1579
01:06:27,431 --> 01:06:30,124
What do you want me
to say, Jack?

1580
01:06:30,262 --> 01:06:31,435
Know what?

1581
01:06:31,573 --> 01:06:34,438
You're the advice guru,
you figure it out.

1582
01:06:34,576 --> 01:06:38,960
♪

1583
01:06:39,098 --> 01:06:41,549
[camera shutter clicking]

1584
01:06:41,687 --> 01:06:43,068
♪

1585
01:06:43,206 --> 01:06:45,656
[camera shutter clicking]

1586
01:06:45,794 --> 01:06:47,141
♪

1587
01:06:47,279 --> 01:06:49,039
[camera shutter clicking]

1588
01:06:49,177 --> 01:06:52,422
♪

1589
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,632
[camera shutters clicking]

1590
01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:56,978
♪

1591
01:06:57,116 --> 01:06:58,807
Have a good
rest of your evening, Serena.

1592
01:06:58,945 --> 01:07:00,257
Whoa, whoa.

1593
01:07:00,395 --> 01:07:02,846
[indistinct chatter]

1594
01:07:02,984 --> 01:07:07,092
♪

1595
01:07:07,230 --> 01:07:09,991
Everyone, calm down!

1596
01:07:10,129 --> 01:07:12,856
She's just my assistant.

1597
01:07:12,994 --> 01:07:14,202
Let's find out.

1598
01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:15,721
Hello, which show are you with?

1599
01:07:15,859 --> 01:07:17,895
Hi, I'm Abby Roig,

1600
01:07:18,034 --> 01:07:20,243
and I work on Love's Listening.

1601
01:07:20,381 --> 01:07:22,176
Oh, congratulations
on the nomination.

1602
01:07:22,314 --> 01:07:23,349
Thank you so much.

1603
01:07:23,487 --> 01:07:26,180
I'm so excited to be here
and nervous!

1604
01:07:26,318 --> 01:07:27,181
Can you tell?

1605
01:07:27,319 --> 01:07:28,320
You're doing great,

1606
01:07:28,458 --> 01:07:29,907
but can I ask you
about your dress?

1607
01:07:30,046 --> 01:07:31,392
It is so unique.
Who designed it?

1608
01:07:31,530 --> 01:07:34,429
Thank you.
It's a Brynn Roig original,

1609
01:07:34,567 --> 01:07:38,054
and I'm so lucky to be wearing
one of her garments.

1610
01:07:38,192 --> 01:07:39,745
Look! Has pockets.

1611
01:07:39,883 --> 01:07:41,540
That is fabulous,
and I have to admit,

1612
01:07:41,678 --> 01:07:44,025
I'm a bit jealous
about the pockets.

1613
01:07:44,163 --> 01:07:45,302
Have a fun night, Abby.

1614
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,028
Thank you so much.
Have a great evening.

1615
01:07:47,166 --> 01:07:48,478
Thank you.

1616
01:07:48,616 --> 01:07:50,204
So many exciting things
happening.

1617
01:07:50,342 --> 01:07:52,792
[indistinct lyrics]

1618
01:07:52,930 --> 01:08:01,042
♪

1619
01:08:01,180 --> 01:08:02,388
Serena, hi, you look...

1620
01:08:02,526 --> 01:08:04,597
Could you get me a soda water
with lemon?

1621
01:08:04,735 --> 01:08:06,599
My voice is strained
from talking with the press

1622
01:08:06,737 --> 01:08:10,431
and I need to be able
to give my acceptance speech.

1623
01:08:10,569 --> 01:08:24,893
♪

1624
01:08:25,031 --> 01:08:26,585
You look...

1625
01:08:26,723 --> 01:08:27,413
Wow.

1626
01:08:27,551 --> 01:08:29,726
I mean, really, wow.

1627
01:08:29,864 --> 01:08:31,107
Thank you.

1628
01:08:31,245 --> 01:08:34,351
I wish I could say the same
about your tie.

1629
01:08:34,489 --> 01:08:36,250
It's terrible, isn't it?

1630
01:08:36,388 --> 01:08:38,942
Serena picked it out.

1631
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,738
You know what?

1632
01:08:41,876 --> 01:08:42,773
Better.

1633
01:08:42,911 --> 01:08:44,637
Much better.

1634
01:08:44,775 --> 01:08:46,777
♪

1635
01:08:46,915 --> 01:08:51,161
Do you think
that we could talk?

1636
01:08:51,299 --> 01:08:54,613
I mean, not for the story,
just...

1637
01:08:54,751 --> 01:08:58,099
It might be nice to catch up.

1638
01:08:58,237 --> 01:08:59,204
That sounded like "ketchup."

1639
01:08:59,342 --> 01:09:00,308
I don't want ketchup.

1640
01:09:00,446 --> 01:09:02,828
I just want to talk.

1641
01:09:02,966 --> 01:09:04,692
Are you okay?

1642
01:09:04,830 --> 01:09:07,108
Uh...

1643
01:09:07,246 --> 01:09:09,179
What I'm trying to say is...

1644
01:09:09,317 --> 01:09:12,009
I just want to be honest
with you.

1645
01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:13,632
Would that be okay?

1646
01:09:13,770 --> 01:09:16,013
I want to be honest
with you too, Jack.

1647
01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:18,361
There's something very important
that I have to...

1648
01:09:18,499 --> 01:09:20,121
Attention, everyone!

1649
01:09:20,259 --> 01:09:21,743
It is time
to announce the winners

1650
01:09:21,881 --> 01:09:25,230
of this year's
National Podcast Awards!

1651
01:09:25,368 --> 01:09:26,817
Yeah!

1652
01:09:26,955 --> 01:09:27,956
Come on now.

1653
01:09:28,094 --> 01:09:29,061
Are y'all ready?

1654
01:09:29,199 --> 01:09:31,201
[cheering, applause]

1655
01:09:31,339 --> 01:09:32,306
Come on!

1656
01:09:32,444 --> 01:09:35,067
Let's give awards!

1657
01:09:35,205 --> 01:09:36,413
Yeah!

1658
01:09:36,551 --> 01:09:39,002
[cheering]

1659
01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:40,037
♪

1660
01:09:40,176 --> 01:09:41,694
I have to take this to Serena.

1661
01:09:41,832 --> 01:09:43,972
- We'll catch up later?
- Yeah.

1662
01:09:44,110 --> 01:09:45,319
♪

1663
01:09:45,457 --> 01:09:47,907
[applause]

1664
01:09:48,045 --> 01:09:51,980
♪

1665
01:09:54,155 --> 01:09:55,501
And now,

1666
01:09:55,639 --> 01:09:57,883
for the most prestigious award
of the night,

1667
01:09:58,021 --> 01:10:01,507
here are the nominees
for Best Podcast of the Year.

1668
01:10:01,645 --> 01:10:03,854
[cheering]

1669
01:10:03,992 --> 01:10:05,062
[whistling]

1670
01:10:05,201 --> 01:10:07,410
Yeah, yeah.

1671
01:10:07,548 --> 01:10:09,515
Running Wild
with Chris McGowan

1672
01:10:09,653 --> 01:10:11,034
and Lauri Roggenkamp.

1673
01:10:11,172 --> 01:10:13,692
[cheering]

1674
01:10:16,902 --> 01:10:20,526
Good Times with Erin Lann,
hosted by Erin Lann.

1675
01:10:20,664 --> 01:10:23,184
[cheering]

1676
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:26,808
Music and Boulders,

1677
01:10:26,946 --> 01:10:29,742
hosted by Austin
and Hunter Barnes.

1678
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,400
[cheering]

1679
01:10:34,851 --> 01:10:38,303
And Love is Listening,
hosted by Serena Shephard.

1680
01:10:38,441 --> 01:10:40,960
[cheering]

1681
01:10:44,170 --> 01:10:46,414
[applause fades]

1682
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:52,213
Love's Listening!

1683
01:10:52,351 --> 01:10:54,767
[cheering]

1684
01:10:54,905 --> 01:11:05,226
♪

1685
01:11:05,364 --> 01:11:07,815
[unintelligible]

1686
01:11:07,953 --> 01:11:09,541
♪

1687
01:11:11,197 --> 01:11:13,855
Wow, this is amazing.

1688
01:11:13,993 --> 01:11:16,789
Thank you to everyone
who's supported the podcast,

1689
01:11:16,927 --> 01:11:18,929
including my family
and friends.

1690
01:11:19,067 --> 01:11:20,655
And thank you
to all the listeners

1691
01:11:20,793 --> 01:11:24,452
and everyone who's ever taken
a chance on love.

1692
01:11:24,590 --> 01:11:27,075
[applause]

1693
01:11:27,213 --> 01:11:32,253
♪

1694
01:11:32,391 --> 01:11:33,910
And, of course...

1695
01:11:34,048 --> 01:11:35,532
♪

1696
01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:38,673
Always believe in yourself.

1697
01:11:38,811 --> 01:11:39,950
♪

1698
01:11:40,088 --> 01:11:43,540
Even if no one else
believes in you.

1699
01:11:43,678 --> 01:11:47,164
All you need to succeed...

1700
01:11:47,303 --> 01:11:48,787
is yourself.

1701
01:11:48,925 --> 01:11:51,030
[chuckling, cheering]

1702
01:11:51,168 --> 01:11:53,205
Yes! Thank you!

1703
01:11:53,343 --> 01:12:00,557
♪

1704
01:12:00,695 --> 01:12:03,146
[cheering continues]

1705
01:12:03,284 --> 01:12:08,876
♪

1706
01:12:09,014 --> 01:12:11,706
Well, thank you, everyone,
for joining tonight's event!

1707
01:12:11,844 --> 01:12:14,122
Please, party! Party!

1708
01:12:14,260 --> 01:12:16,711
[cheering]

1709
01:12:16,849 --> 01:12:20,163
♪

1710
01:12:20,301 --> 01:12:21,992
Abby, there you are.

1711
01:12:22,130 --> 01:12:23,200
There is so much to do.

1712
01:12:23,339 --> 01:12:24,650
Why don't you grab
some champagne?

1713
01:12:24,788 --> 01:12:27,584
When will you promote me,
Serena?

1714
01:12:27,722 --> 01:12:29,172
- What?
- You said that you were

1715
01:12:29,310 --> 01:12:31,277
going to write me
in your speech and you didn't.

1716
01:12:31,416 --> 01:12:33,901
You also said that you were
going to announce me

1717
01:12:34,039 --> 01:12:36,352
as a writer and producer
once we win.

1718
01:12:36,490 --> 01:12:37,663
I need to know when.

1719
01:12:37,801 --> 01:12:39,320
Abby, we can discuss this later.

1720
01:12:39,458 --> 01:12:41,287
No, no, no, no, now.

1721
01:12:41,426 --> 01:12:44,567
I've been working for you
for years, in good faith,

1722
01:12:44,705 --> 01:12:46,362
with no boundaries, 24/7.

1723
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:47,742
I write the entire show!

1724
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,227
Shh!

1725
01:12:50,366 --> 01:12:52,506
I need to know now.

1726
01:12:52,644 --> 01:12:54,853
Abby, there is so much to do.

1727
01:12:54,991 --> 01:12:56,751
We're gonna need to update
all the promotion material.

1728
01:12:56,889 --> 01:13:00,203
Will those materials
have my name on it?

1729
01:13:00,341 --> 01:13:04,103
Abby, you don't change
a winning recipe, okay?

1730
01:13:04,241 --> 01:13:05,691
My name is on the podcast.

1731
01:13:05,829 --> 01:13:09,177
It would muddle things up
to have equal credit.

1732
01:13:09,315 --> 01:13:11,352
I quit, Serena.

1733
01:13:11,490 --> 01:13:12,353
Okay.

1734
01:13:12,491 --> 01:13:14,597
I see, playing hardball.

1735
01:13:14,735 --> 01:13:17,185
I'll give you a raise.

1736
01:13:17,323 --> 01:13:19,187
You're being ridiculous.

1737
01:13:19,325 --> 01:13:21,120
♪

1738
01:13:21,258 --> 01:13:22,536
Fine, go!

1739
01:13:22,674 --> 01:13:24,710
I'm not gonna let this
ruin my night!

1740
01:13:24,848 --> 01:13:28,265
Jack is taking me dancing
after this!

1741
01:13:28,404 --> 01:13:36,066
♪

1742
01:13:36,204 --> 01:13:38,034
Hey! There you are.

1743
01:13:38,172 --> 01:13:39,656
♪

1744
01:13:39,794 --> 01:13:42,556
Good luck on your article.

1745
01:13:42,694 --> 01:13:45,904
Wait, you're not
sticking around?

1746
01:13:46,042 --> 01:13:48,458
No, I don't work
on Love's Listening anymore.

1747
01:13:48,596 --> 01:13:49,908
Wait a minute, what?

1748
01:13:50,046 --> 01:13:51,806
I quit.

1749
01:13:51,944 --> 01:13:54,188
It's been me
the whole time, Jack.

1750
01:13:54,326 --> 01:13:57,502
It's been my words,
my advice, my love.

1751
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,262
♪

1752
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,472
Best of luck to get
any substance out of Serena,

1753
01:14:02,610 --> 01:14:04,474
and I wish you the best

1754
01:14:04,612 --> 01:14:07,097
with the queen of fake romance.

1755
01:14:07,235 --> 01:14:08,167
♪

1756
01:14:08,305 --> 01:14:11,239
I hope you're very happy
together.

1757
01:14:11,377 --> 01:14:14,898
♪

1758
01:14:15,036 --> 01:14:17,314
[crying]

1759
01:14:17,453 --> 01:14:19,524
♪

1760
01:14:19,662 --> 01:14:22,112
[cellphone buzzing]

1761
01:14:22,250 --> 01:14:25,426
♪

1762
01:14:25,564 --> 01:14:27,428
[whooshing]

1763
01:14:27,566 --> 01:14:28,947
♪

1764
01:14:29,085 --> 01:14:31,363
[beep]

1765
01:14:31,501 --> 01:14:33,158
♪

1766
01:14:33,296 --> 01:14:34,504
Brynn?

1767
01:14:34,642 --> 01:14:36,368
♪

1768
01:14:36,506 --> 01:14:40,614
I need Matt's midlife crisis
audio gear.

1769
01:14:40,752 --> 01:14:42,926
We're making a show.

1770
01:14:43,064 --> 01:14:46,516
♪

1771
01:14:46,654 --> 01:14:48,138
Abby!

1772
01:14:48,276 --> 01:14:53,212
♪

1773
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:55,007
Abby!

1774
01:14:55,145 --> 01:14:59,667
♪

1775
01:14:59,805 --> 01:15:02,187
[cellphone buzzing]

1776
01:15:02,325 --> 01:15:04,120
♪

1777
01:15:08,331 --> 01:15:09,643
Hello?

1778
01:15:09,781 --> 01:15:13,025
Abby, where are you?!

1779
01:15:13,163 --> 01:15:16,304
- Serena?
- I need you here

1780
01:15:16,442 --> 01:15:17,685
twenty minutes ago!

1781
01:15:17,823 --> 01:15:20,343
Serena, I quit.

1782
01:15:21,793 --> 01:15:22,759
You meant that?

1783
01:15:22,897 --> 01:15:25,141
Yes, I'm not coming in.

1784
01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:26,660
No.

1785
01:15:26,798 --> 01:15:28,558
I don't accept that.

1786
01:15:28,696 --> 01:15:30,836
Well, you're going to have to.

1787
01:15:32,217 --> 01:15:33,494
Abby...

1788
01:15:33,632 --> 01:15:35,082
I'm sorry, okay?

1789
01:15:35,220 --> 01:15:37,705
I should have given you credit
in my acceptance speech.

1790
01:15:37,843 --> 01:15:40,052
I got carried away
in the moment.

1791
01:15:40,190 --> 01:15:42,158
I should've promoted you sooner.

1792
01:15:42,296 --> 01:15:44,609
I just...

1793
01:15:44,747 --> 01:15:49,510
I felt insecure about
not writing my own content.

1794
01:15:49,648 --> 01:15:51,995
I didn't want anyone to know.

1795
01:15:53,514 --> 01:15:55,689
I can't be dumped
and have you leave me.

1796
01:15:55,827 --> 01:15:57,035
I just can't!

1797
01:15:57,173 --> 01:15:59,762
It's unacceptable.

1798
01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:01,591
Please come back.

1799
01:16:01,729 --> 01:16:03,593
I'll give you credit.

1800
01:16:03,731 --> 01:16:05,043
A raise, even.

1801
01:16:05,181 --> 01:16:07,908
Just come back, okay?

1802
01:16:08,046 --> 01:16:12,050
Serena, that's all I wanted
to hear for years.

1803
01:16:12,188 --> 01:16:15,053
Thank you for your apology,
but I just can't.

1804
01:16:15,191 --> 01:16:18,056
I can't go back
to work with you.

1805
01:16:18,194 --> 01:16:21,059
I don't know
what I'm gonna do next, but...

1806
01:16:21,197 --> 01:16:22,612
♪

1807
01:16:22,750 --> 01:16:25,719
...I need to bloom
where I am planted now.

1808
01:16:25,857 --> 01:16:29,067
♪

1809
01:16:29,205 --> 01:16:33,174
And I cannot wait
for ideal conditions.

1810
01:16:33,312 --> 01:16:35,314
I hope you understand that.

1811
01:16:35,452 --> 01:16:36,661
♪

1812
01:16:36,799 --> 01:16:39,525
- I respect that.
- Thank you.

1813
01:16:39,664 --> 01:16:43,150
Could you just pick up my coffee
and dry cleaning first?

1814
01:16:43,288 --> 01:17:00,754
♪

1815
01:17:00,892 --> 01:17:02,963
Airport, please.

1816
01:17:03,101 --> 01:17:12,593
♪

1817
01:17:12,731 --> 01:17:14,491
Wow.

1818
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:16,528
This is something.

1819
01:17:16,666 --> 01:17:17,840
It will be.

1820
01:17:17,978 --> 01:17:19,600
I just took
all the measurements.

1821
01:17:19,738 --> 01:17:21,878
I just--I'm just clearing out.

1822
01:17:22,016 --> 01:17:22,948
Is that the stuff?

1823
01:17:23,086 --> 01:17:24,950
Some of it.

1824
01:17:25,088 --> 01:17:27,090
Great, thank you.

1825
01:17:28,471 --> 01:17:30,300
Mic!

1826
01:17:30,438 --> 01:17:31,681
Desk stand.

1827
01:17:31,819 --> 01:17:33,959
Matt will be by later
with a lot more stuff.

1828
01:17:34,097 --> 01:17:37,722
He's also gonna help you
soundproof this place.

1829
01:17:37,860 --> 01:17:39,275
That man is a keeper.

1830
01:17:39,413 --> 01:17:41,208
I think so too.

1831
01:17:41,346 --> 01:17:44,452
Thank you so much, both of you.

1832
01:17:47,870 --> 01:17:49,078
Abby, no.

1833
01:17:49,216 --> 01:17:51,321
Really? Brad's stuff?

1834
01:17:51,459 --> 01:17:54,497
- What is that?
- I'll take those.

1835
01:18:06,026 --> 01:18:08,235
Yay! You did it.

1836
01:18:08,373 --> 01:18:09,650
Good riddance.

1837
01:18:09,788 --> 01:18:11,548
What is that little paper?

1838
01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:14,034
Just from a fortune cookie.

1839
01:18:14,172 --> 01:18:17,589
The dinner Jack took me to.

1840
01:18:21,144 --> 01:18:24,078
Hm, um...

1841
01:18:24,216 --> 01:18:26,840
Have you seen
the local news today

1842
01:18:26,978 --> 01:18:29,601
or been on social media?

1843
01:18:29,739 --> 01:18:31,879
No. Why?

1844
01:18:41,647 --> 01:18:49,207
♪

1845
01:18:49,345 --> 01:18:51,209
I--I'm sorry, honey.

1846
01:18:51,347 --> 01:18:53,625
Don't let this put a damper
on your exciting day.

1847
01:18:53,763 --> 01:18:55,247
It won't.

1848
01:18:55,385 --> 01:18:57,387
No, like I just--I don't know,
I just thought that he was

1849
01:18:57,525 --> 01:19:00,321
a better judge of character
than that.

1850
01:19:00,459 --> 01:19:03,221
I hope they're happy together.

1851
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:06,707
- Hm.
- I really do.

1852
01:19:06,845 --> 01:19:08,053
You know,
for the first time ever

1853
01:19:08,191 --> 01:19:12,230
I feel like I'm finally
focusing on myself.

1854
01:19:12,368 --> 01:19:15,233
I can't control anyone else.

1855
01:19:15,371 --> 01:19:17,407
Well, that's the spirit!

1856
01:19:17,545 --> 01:19:34,390
♪

1857
01:19:34,528 --> 01:19:35,771
Hey.

1858
01:19:35,909 --> 01:19:37,462
Hey.

1859
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,430
They washing windows
or something?

1860
01:19:40,568 --> 01:19:43,571
No. Just wondering
what New York would look like

1861
01:19:43,709 --> 01:19:45,470
with palm trees.

1862
01:19:45,608 --> 01:19:48,197
So, are you gonna reach out
to Jack,

1863
01:19:48,335 --> 01:19:49,992
let him know
about your show release?

1864
01:19:50,130 --> 01:19:52,477
No, I don't want
to get distracted now.

1865
01:19:52,615 --> 01:19:57,206
And I kind of feel embarrassed, actually.

1866
01:19:57,344 --> 01:19:59,208
Embarrassed?
Why are you embarrassed?

1867
01:19:59,346 --> 01:20:01,141
He's the one who fell
for Serena's lies.

1868
01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:03,177
Right, but I've been
lying to him

1869
01:20:03,315 --> 01:20:05,317
since the beginning.

1870
01:20:05,455 --> 01:20:07,872
And I'm part of the reason
why he believes

1871
01:20:08,010 --> 01:20:10,391
that she's so great, you know?

1872
01:20:10,529 --> 01:20:14,361
And, you know,
I can't be mad at that.

1873
01:20:14,499 --> 01:20:17,191
I don't think
it's the same thing.

1874
01:20:17,329 --> 01:20:20,954
Maybe it's not,
but it's still dishonest.

1875
01:20:21,092 --> 01:20:23,370
And I know how important
honesty is to him.

1876
01:20:23,508 --> 01:20:25,199
It's wonderful, Jack.

1877
01:20:25,337 --> 01:20:27,167
I'd say it's your best work yet.

1878
01:20:27,305 --> 01:20:29,755
Wait. Really?

1879
01:20:29,894 --> 01:20:33,069
It's not your usual
prestige piece,

1880
01:20:33,207 --> 01:20:34,968
but you had
a lot of heart in it.

1881
01:20:35,106 --> 01:20:36,901
You should be proud of it.

1882
01:20:37,039 --> 01:20:38,626
We're running it Sunday.

1883
01:20:38,764 --> 01:20:41,008
Wow, on Sunday.

1884
01:20:41,146 --> 01:20:43,597
On the front page.

1885
01:20:43,735 --> 01:20:45,875
My piece is going to be
on the front page

1886
01:20:46,013 --> 01:20:46,980
of the Sunday edition?

1887
01:20:47,118 --> 01:20:49,051
It is.

1888
01:20:49,189 --> 01:20:51,087
Well, thank you, Diane.

1889
01:20:51,225 --> 01:20:53,710
Thank you for trusting in me.

1890
01:20:53,849 --> 01:20:54,884
Of course.

1891
01:20:55,022 --> 01:20:56,748
Such great work.

1892
01:20:56,886 --> 01:20:58,198
There is one more thing.

1893
01:20:58,336 --> 01:21:00,407
We have a senior columnist
position opening up

1894
01:21:00,545 --> 01:21:04,066
that we'd like to fill
internally.

1895
01:21:04,204 --> 01:21:07,517
Wow, I mean,
that would be awesome.

1896
01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:09,554
I don't know what to say.

1897
01:21:09,692 --> 01:21:12,074
At the Miami office.

1898
01:21:12,212 --> 01:21:13,558
I thought maybe
you'd consider it

1899
01:21:13,696 --> 01:21:17,010
seeing that you're considering
new things these days.

1900
01:21:17,148 --> 01:21:19,288
I don't know
if I can be that open.

1901
01:21:19,426 --> 01:21:22,291
I know, but you're looking
for something bigger.

1902
01:21:22,429 --> 01:21:25,225
Maybe a change of perspective.

1903
01:21:25,363 --> 01:21:27,020
♪

1904
01:21:27,158 --> 01:21:29,677
Someplace with more palm trees.

1905
01:21:29,815 --> 01:21:31,024
♪

1906
01:21:31,162 --> 01:21:33,681
And it also means
that the whole profile

1907
01:21:33,819 --> 01:21:35,373
is built up on lies.

1908
01:21:35,511 --> 01:21:39,204
And that's a pretty huge deal
for a journalist,

1909
01:21:39,342 --> 01:21:41,068
if the paper finds out.

1910
01:21:41,206 --> 01:21:43,899
Mm, I hadn't thought
about that.

1911
01:21:44,037 --> 01:21:46,694
Yeah, it's all so complicated.

1912
01:21:46,832 --> 01:21:48,731
♪

1913
01:21:48,869 --> 01:21:52,597
I need some time to process,
I think.

1914
01:21:52,735 --> 01:21:53,909
Okay.

1915
01:21:54,047 --> 01:21:56,981
Well, I'll be here
for whatever you need.

1916
01:21:57,119 --> 01:21:58,603
Thank you, sister.

1917
01:21:58,741 --> 01:22:01,192
- I love you.
- I love you, too.

1918
01:22:01,330 --> 01:22:03,366
♪

1919
01:22:03,504 --> 01:22:05,230
Change is hard.

1920
01:22:05,368 --> 01:22:07,612
And change can be scary.

1921
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:09,303
Like, really scary.

1922
01:22:09,441 --> 01:22:11,133
But sometimes,
the biggest rewards

1923
01:22:11,271 --> 01:22:13,411
come from facing your fears

1924
01:22:13,549 --> 01:22:15,827
and running
right into the change,

1925
01:22:15,965 --> 01:22:17,484
heart first.

1926
01:22:17,622 --> 01:22:19,141
So that's what I'm doing now.

1927
01:22:19,279 --> 01:22:21,074
I'm running into the change.

1928
01:22:21,212 --> 01:22:22,592
And it's scary,

1929
01:22:22,730 --> 01:22:25,181
but I hope you come along
with me.

1930
01:22:25,319 --> 01:22:26,631
So let's get into it.

1931
01:22:26,769 --> 01:22:27,873
I want to hear from you.

1932
01:22:28,012 --> 01:22:29,116
I want to know
what you're changing.

1933
01:22:29,254 --> 01:22:31,843
Why are you afraid of change?

1934
01:22:31,981 --> 01:22:34,984
And how can I help you do it?

1935
01:22:35,122 --> 01:22:36,952
And let's face the fear
together.

1936
01:22:37,090 --> 01:22:40,610
I'm Abby Roig,
and this is A New Perspective.

1937
01:22:40,748 --> 01:22:42,923
And we'll be right back
with the calls

1938
01:22:43,061 --> 01:22:45,684
after a short commercial break.

1939
01:22:47,445 --> 01:22:48,377
How did it sound?

1940
01:22:48,515 --> 01:22:49,826
- Sounds great.
- Okay, great.

1941
01:22:49,965 --> 01:22:51,035
No, it sounds great.

1942
01:22:51,173 --> 01:22:53,002
Audio quality is spotless.

1943
01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:54,486
No lag.

1944
01:22:54,624 --> 01:22:56,212
I think we're ready
for live calls.

1945
01:22:56,350 --> 01:22:57,696
Thank you so much
for doing this.

1946
01:22:57,834 --> 01:22:59,940
I really appreciate it,
especially after,

1947
01:23:00,078 --> 01:23:01,114
you know, on the weekend.

1948
01:23:01,252 --> 01:23:02,529
No, don't worry about it.

1949
01:23:02,667 --> 01:23:05,325
Honestly, a lot of podcasters
record from home.

1950
01:23:05,463 --> 01:23:07,120
I'm excited to be on board.

1951
01:23:07,258 --> 01:23:08,500
Okay, let's be right back.

1952
01:23:08,638 --> 01:23:11,641
Cool. Um, let's just test
the line.

1953
01:23:11,779 --> 01:23:13,850
All right,
you hearing me okay?

1954
01:23:13,989 --> 01:23:15,300
- Mm-hm.
- All right.

1955
01:23:15,438 --> 01:23:16,957
And ready?

1956
01:23:17,095 --> 01:23:20,305
And we're back.

1957
01:23:21,686 --> 01:23:23,584
Congratulations to you, Bryce.

1958
01:23:23,722 --> 01:23:26,242
I know firsthand
how scary it can be,

1959
01:23:26,380 --> 01:23:28,313
change of career,

1960
01:23:28,451 --> 01:23:29,866
but you should be
proud of yourself

1961
01:23:30,005 --> 01:23:32,283
for taking the leap.

1962
01:23:37,805 --> 01:23:39,497
[gasping]

1963
01:23:39,635 --> 01:23:42,707
Thank you for sharing
your wins with me, Simon.

1964
01:23:42,845 --> 01:23:45,675
I know that it's
a beautiful thing to get a win,

1965
01:23:45,813 --> 01:23:47,574
and it's even more special

1966
01:23:47,712 --> 01:23:49,541
if you can share it
with someone.

1967
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:52,924
Best of luck,
and thanks for listening.

1968
01:24:00,173 --> 01:24:02,382
[mouthing words]

1969
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,625
Shh.

1970
01:24:04,763 --> 01:24:07,939
Okay, everyone, so I'm hearing
Kieran is telling me

1971
01:24:08,077 --> 01:24:11,046
that we have one last caller
on the line.

1972
01:24:11,184 --> 01:24:12,392
Hi, caller.

1973
01:24:12,530 --> 01:24:14,635
Welcome to A New Perspective.

1974
01:24:14,773 --> 01:24:18,570
What are you scared of,
and how can we help?

1975
01:24:18,708 --> 01:24:20,745
Hi, Abby.

1976
01:24:20,883 --> 01:24:22,885
♪

1977
01:24:23,023 --> 01:24:26,785
Can I get a name for you, caller?

1978
01:24:26,923 --> 01:24:29,236
This is Jack.

1979
01:24:29,374 --> 01:24:33,033
I was hoping you could help
me out with some advice.

1980
01:24:33,171 --> 01:24:34,448
Um...

1981
01:24:34,586 --> 01:24:36,795
Yes, Jack. Shoot.

1982
01:24:36,933 --> 01:24:39,384
♪

1983
01:24:39,522 --> 01:24:42,077
What are you afraid of?

1984
01:24:42,215 --> 01:24:45,563
I'm afraid
that I may have lost the shot

1985
01:24:45,701 --> 01:24:49,394
with someone
really, truly special.

1986
01:24:49,532 --> 01:24:51,810
It was a huge mistake,
and I left town

1987
01:24:51,948 --> 01:24:54,779
before I had the chance
to clear the air with her.

1988
01:24:54,917 --> 01:24:56,505
♪

1989
01:24:56,643 --> 01:25:01,889
Well, that sounds like
a big miscommunication.

1990
01:25:02,027 --> 01:25:04,513
But if she's a special one,

1991
01:25:04,651 --> 01:25:07,136
she'll come clean

1992
01:25:07,274 --> 01:25:12,417
and she'll accept the part
of the situation also.

1993
01:25:12,555 --> 01:25:15,282
Honesty is so important.

1994
01:25:15,420 --> 01:25:19,528
I couldn't agree more.

1995
01:25:19,666 --> 01:25:22,669
The thing is, I'm back in town,

1996
01:25:22,807 --> 01:25:26,328
and I really want to see her.

1997
01:25:26,466 --> 01:25:30,677
Have I missed my chance?

1998
01:25:30,815 --> 01:25:32,610
I'm afraid
I'll never get to tell her

1999
01:25:32,748 --> 01:25:35,544
how I feel in person.

2000
01:25:35,682 --> 01:25:39,410
And what is that
that you want to tell her?

2001
01:25:39,548 --> 01:25:43,931
That she's managed to turn
this cynic into a romantic.

2002
01:25:44,069 --> 01:25:46,831
♪

2003
01:25:46,969 --> 01:25:51,111
Well, Jack,
this podcast is about...

2004
01:25:51,249 --> 01:25:52,492
♪

2005
01:25:52,630 --> 01:25:54,770
...facing your fears.

2006
01:25:54,908 --> 01:25:57,704
♪

2007
01:25:57,842 --> 01:25:59,706
Why don't you take her

2008
01:25:59,844 --> 01:26:04,124
to the most romantic spot
in the city

2009
01:26:04,262 --> 01:26:06,851
and tell her how you feel?

2010
01:26:06,989 --> 01:26:10,303
♪

2011
01:26:10,441 --> 01:26:11,890
Jack?

2012
01:26:12,028 --> 01:26:13,892
♪

2013
01:26:14,030 --> 01:26:15,618
I'm on my way.

2014
01:26:15,756 --> 01:26:18,000
♪

2015
01:26:18,138 --> 01:26:21,590
There's never a cab
when you need one in this city.

2016
01:26:21,728 --> 01:26:23,488
- Hello?
- Hi, Abby!

2017
01:26:23,626 --> 01:26:24,972
Yes, this is Abby Roig.

2018
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:25,973
Who's calling, please?

2019
01:26:26,111 --> 01:26:27,078
Sounds like a great idea.

2020
01:26:27,216 --> 01:26:28,252
On my way.

2021
01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:31,910
Yes, um, thank you so much.

2022
01:26:32,048 --> 01:26:33,257
♪

2023
01:26:33,395 --> 01:26:35,845
Hello? This is Abby Roig.

2024
01:26:35,983 --> 01:26:37,709
Who's calling?

2025
01:26:37,847 --> 01:26:43,094
♪

2026
01:26:43,232 --> 01:26:44,716
- Hello?
- Hello,

2027
01:26:44,854 --> 01:26:47,374
is this Abby Roig
from A New Perspective podcast?

2028
01:26:47,512 --> 01:26:49,065
Yes. Who's calling, please?

2029
01:26:49,204 --> 01:26:50,170
This is Michael Joseph

2030
01:26:50,308 --> 01:26:52,276
from the Limelight
Podcast Network.

2031
01:26:52,414 --> 01:26:53,863
Wow, yes, I love Limelight.

2032
01:26:54,001 --> 01:26:55,382
I'm glad to hear that.
I was calling to see

2033
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,626
if you'd be open to discuss
hosting your podcast

2034
01:26:57,764 --> 01:27:00,180
under the Limelight umbrella?

2035
01:27:00,318 --> 01:27:06,393
♪

2036
01:27:06,531 --> 01:27:09,085
This humidity...

2037
01:27:09,224 --> 01:27:11,536
It's kind of our thing.

2038
01:27:11,674 --> 01:27:13,366
That article...

2039
01:27:13,504 --> 01:27:15,402
It was so beautiful, Jack.

2040
01:27:15,540 --> 01:27:18,716
So honest, so real.

2041
01:27:18,854 --> 01:27:22,375
I'm glad you liked it.

2042
01:27:22,513 --> 01:27:25,274
I'm so sorry
that I lied to you.

2043
01:27:25,412 --> 01:27:26,793
I felt so bad about it.

2044
01:27:26,931 --> 01:27:29,761
I never meant for it
to get out of hand.

2045
01:27:29,899 --> 01:27:32,971
But now my phone is lighting up
with all these networks

2046
01:27:33,109 --> 01:27:36,458
that they're interested
in my show because of you,

2047
01:27:36,596 --> 01:27:38,563
thanks to you.

2048
01:27:38,701 --> 01:27:39,944
♪

2049
01:27:40,082 --> 01:27:44,742
You--you inspire me
to have this confidence

2050
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:46,640
to bloom where I was planted.

2051
01:27:46,778 --> 01:27:50,817
You've earned every bit
of success yourself, Abby.

2052
01:27:50,955 --> 01:27:52,922
And you were
only doing your job.

2053
01:27:53,060 --> 01:27:55,753
From day one,
you've only ever been

2054
01:27:55,891 --> 01:27:57,651
your authentic self to me.

2055
01:27:57,789 --> 01:28:01,828
I'm sorry I didn't realize that
from the beginning.

2056
01:28:01,966 --> 01:28:03,830
I was scared.

2057
01:28:03,968 --> 01:28:07,592
And I didn't want to admit that
to myself.

2058
01:28:07,730 --> 01:28:09,249
I should've told you
I had feelings for you

2059
01:28:09,387 --> 01:28:10,423
the second that I knew.

2060
01:28:10,561 --> 01:28:14,150
I should've told you at dinner.

2061
01:28:14,289 --> 01:28:15,911
At dinner?

2062
01:28:16,049 --> 01:28:23,367
♪

2063
01:28:23,505 --> 01:28:25,127
It's you.

2064
01:28:25,265 --> 01:28:27,716
The real you.

2065
01:28:27,854 --> 01:28:29,994
It's you, too.

2066
01:28:30,132 --> 01:28:40,694
♪

2067
01:28:41,764 --> 01:29:32,815
♪

2068
01:29:37,406 --> 01:29:39,857
[whirring, clicking]

2069
01:29:39,995 --> 01:29:48,175
♪