1
00:00:03,103 --> 00:00:04,688
NARRATOR: It's finally here.
2
00:00:04,721 --> 00:00:06,222
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
3
00:00:06,373 --> 00:00:08,541
NARRATOR: Thirteen years after Avatar.
4
00:00:08,625 --> 00:00:09,709
Whoo!
5
00:00:09,759 --> 00:00:13,396
NARRATOR: Its sequel is ready to take you
even further.
6
00:00:13,463 --> 00:00:15,298
What will audiences see
in this film
7
00:00:15,331 --> 00:00:17,100
that they've never seen in a movie before?
8
00:00:17,167 --> 00:00:18,902
You show me one image
from this film
9
00:00:18,952 --> 00:00:20,887
that you've seen before,
and I'll give you ten bucks.
10
00:00:20,937 --> 00:00:23,907
NARRATOR: Tonight, we're taking you
behind the scenes,
11
00:00:23,957 --> 00:00:26,192
to the magic of Pandora.
12
00:00:26,226 --> 00:00:28,111
When I met Jim, he said,
"Do you want to fall in love
13
00:00:28,161 --> 00:00:30,146
with a beautiful nine foot tall
blue woman?"
14
00:00:30,196 --> 00:00:31,548
And I said, "Yeah, mate,
no worries."
15
00:00:31,614 --> 00:00:34,934
And now they're not just
two partners on the run.
16
00:00:35,185 --> 00:00:38,455
Wherever we go,
this family is our fortress.
17
00:00:38,521 --> 00:00:41,174
ZOE: Now, it's two partners and children
on the run.
18
00:00:41,241 --> 00:00:43,676
NARRATOR: And they're on the run,
underwater.
19
00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,228
BAILEY: I wanted to avoid it
in the beginning.
20
00:00:45,295 --> 00:00:47,080
It's nerve-wracking
holding your breath!
21
00:00:47,197 --> 00:00:49,916
NARRATOR: Now, we're going
inside that tank.
22
00:00:49,966 --> 00:00:54,104
We were competing who was gonna
hold their breath longer.
23
00:00:54,154 --> 00:00:56,589
Yes, man, look at that!
24
00:00:56,623 --> 00:00:59,192
NARRATOR: The unsinkable Kate Winslet
25
00:00:59,225 --> 00:01:01,294
back with director James Cameron,
26
00:01:01,361 --> 00:01:03,980
25 years after Titanic.
27
00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:05,932
It's better than being in a corset
for seven months
28
00:01:05,999 --> 00:01:07,934
on a sinking ship, I promise you that.
29
00:01:08,568 --> 00:01:12,422
NARRATOR: Sigourney Weaver,
time-warping like you can't imagine.
30
00:01:12,539 --> 00:01:14,607
You know, I was thinking,
how can I get Sigourney back
31
00:01:14,674 --> 00:01:15,692
in this damn movie?
32
00:01:15,759 --> 00:01:19,446
He said, "Come on, we both
know you're 14 at heart,
33
00:01:19,529 --> 00:01:21,581
so I don't think this is going to be
a problem for you."
34
00:01:21,664 --> 00:01:25,568
NARRATOR: Now, the cast is taking you
to their "Blue carpet" premiere.
35
00:01:25,852 --> 00:01:26,853
Come with me.
36
00:01:26,903 --> 00:01:30,423
NARRATOR: For the most anticipated
movie sequel ever?
37
00:01:30,473 --> 00:01:32,459
Avatar: The Way Of Water is...
38
00:01:32,592 --> 00:01:33,726
Worth the wait.
39
00:01:36,896 --> 00:01:38,915
NARRATOR: Here's Chris Connelly.
40
00:01:39,365 --> 00:01:41,551
[indistinct chattering]
41
00:01:42,418 --> 00:01:45,138
WOMAN 1 ON TV: Avatar which raked in
75 million dollars...
42
00:01:45,171 --> 00:01:47,557
MAN 1 ON TV: A record weekend
at the country's movie theaters.
43
00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,810
WOMAN 2 ON TV: Avatar shoots to the top
the box office this weekend.
44
00:01:52,695 --> 00:01:56,015
NARRATOR: When Avatar first hit
theaters in December of 2009...
45
00:01:56,149 --> 00:01:57,717
Yeah, check it out!
46
00:01:59,335 --> 00:02:01,855
NARRATOR: No one had seen
anything like it...
47
00:02:01,921 --> 00:02:04,874
Oh, my God.
48
00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:12,599
NARRATOR: By 2010, it was as if
everyone in the world had seen it.
49
00:02:12,699 --> 00:02:14,284
I see you.
50
00:02:15,618 --> 00:02:17,003
I see you.
51
00:02:17,203 --> 00:02:18,888
JAMES: I remember, you know,
I worked on that film
52
00:02:18,955 --> 00:02:22,775
for about three years
before I saw one shot finished.
53
00:02:23,026 --> 00:02:24,894
We had no guarantee
that it was going to work.
54
00:02:24,961 --> 00:02:27,397
So, it was a giant leap of faith
you know?
55
00:02:27,463 --> 00:02:29,599
And then for that to-to be
fulfilled and for people
56
00:02:29,682 --> 00:02:31,501
to embrace it felt great.
57
00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:34,003
NARRATOR: Years earlier,
writer/director/producer
58
00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:37,457
James Cameron had conquered
Hollywood with Titanic.
59
00:02:37,507 --> 00:02:39,359
This is just pure bliss.
60
00:02:39,943 --> 00:02:42,162
NARRATOR: Now it was happening again.
61
00:02:42,262 --> 00:02:44,581
I remember Jim telling us
to leave town
62
00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:47,317
when the movie came out
and, you know don't have friends
63
00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,035
that tell us about
box office receipts.
64
00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:51,838
I disappeared and when I came
back into society,
65
00:02:51,888 --> 00:02:55,225
life had changed 180
and people looked at you different.
66
00:02:55,341 --> 00:02:58,478
NARRATOR: Getting pop culture shoutouts
from the men and women of SNL.
67
00:02:58,511 --> 00:03:00,230
I choose you.
68
00:03:00,296 --> 00:03:02,048
And I choose you, Neytiri.
69
00:03:02,415 --> 00:03:04,067
[audience laughing]
70
00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:05,602
NARRATOR: An homage
from The Simpsons...
71
00:03:06,135 --> 00:03:07,437
[instrumental music]
72
00:03:08,004 --> 00:03:09,038
plus talk shows.
73
00:03:09,088 --> 00:03:10,440
How's it going there, Loki?
74
00:03:14,978 --> 00:03:16,946
Avatar hit a worldwide record.
75
00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:19,682
I mean, it was the fastest-growing film
to hit a billion dollars.
76
00:03:19,782 --> 00:03:23,369
And hit a billion dollars
in 19 days.
77
00:03:23,469 --> 00:03:24,804
That's colossal.
78
00:03:25,388 --> 00:03:29,259
NARRATOR: Avatar became
the top-grossing film of all time.
79
00:03:30,293 --> 00:03:33,229
Its mix of live-action
and performance-capture
80
00:03:33,263 --> 00:03:36,099
a cinematic singularity in 3D.
81
00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:37,233
Amazing, isn't it?
82
00:03:37,267 --> 00:03:39,903
NARRATOR: Its ground-breaking,
breathtaking visuals
83
00:03:39,969 --> 00:03:42,322
introducing viewers to Pandora.
84
00:03:42,355 --> 00:03:43,373
You are ready.
85
00:03:43,423 --> 00:03:46,993
NARRATOR: Zoe Saldana's Neytiri
and the rest of the Na'vi,
86
00:03:47,026 --> 00:03:50,880
guides to a glorious world
where magical possibility
87
00:03:50,947 --> 00:03:54,584
and harmony with nature
is beset by humans.
88
00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:56,569
-Fire.
-Firing.
89
00:03:57,887 --> 00:04:00,440
ZOE: I feel like it was the first time,
at least for audiences
90
00:04:00,490 --> 00:04:04,510
like myself, where we were
hearing the conversation
91
00:04:04,577 --> 00:04:05,995
around climate change
92
00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:10,900
and given a clear picture
of what could happen.
93
00:04:14,053 --> 00:04:16,723
NARRATOR: The result was
an action-filled thrill ride
94
00:04:16,756 --> 00:04:18,725
set in a place so idyllic...
95
00:04:20,326 --> 00:04:23,112
that just like Sam Worthington's
Jake Sully...
96
00:04:23,212 --> 00:04:24,697
Welcome to your new body, Jake.
97
00:04:24,764 --> 00:04:26,749
NARRATOR: ...some never wanted
to leave it,
98
00:04:26,816 --> 00:04:29,435
a feeling shared by some Avatar fans,
99
00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:31,471
as articulated during this sequence
100
00:04:31,554 --> 00:04:34,407
of HBO's How to with John Wilson.
101
00:04:34,507 --> 00:04:39,812
I have this serial track record
of just trying to escape my reality.
102
00:04:40,063 --> 00:04:44,851
And, uh, Avatar provided that escapism
103
00:04:44,917 --> 00:04:48,821
in a way that I had never really
experienced before.
104
00:04:50,073 --> 00:04:52,909
NARRATOR: A smash around the world
and a Disney world attraction...
105
00:04:52,992 --> 00:04:56,379
ALL: Welcome to Pandora!
106
00:04:56,796 --> 00:05:00,249
NARRATOR: It would be such a success
that Cameron mulled walking away
107
00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:02,201
from moviemaking forever.
108
00:05:02,235 --> 00:05:04,937
You could have dropped the mic and said,
"I'm done with filmmaking."
109
00:05:05,004 --> 00:05:08,641
Why did you want to get back in the chair
and be a storyteller again?
110
00:05:08,675 --> 00:05:11,127
At certain point,
I had to face that crossroads.
111
00:05:11,194 --> 00:05:12,895
You know, do I want to do
another Avatar movie?
112
00:05:12,979 --> 00:05:18,234
Do I want to invite lightning to come
and strike the same place again?
113
00:05:18,267 --> 00:05:20,803
Of course, my final answer was
"Go big or go home."
114
00:05:21,954 --> 00:05:23,389
NARRATOR: Cameron did both.
115
00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:25,992
Resettling in New Zealand
and deciding
116
00:05:26,059 --> 00:05:30,430
to expand the franchise
to as many as five films.
117
00:05:30,747 --> 00:05:33,866
And expanding the environments
of the first Avatar,
118
00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:36,252
where Jim Cameron
has always been drawn to,
119
00:05:36,285 --> 00:05:38,471
in the movies and in real life...
120
00:05:38,538 --> 00:05:39,822
into the deep.
121
00:05:40,957 --> 00:05:43,176
JAMES: I thought, "Alright, if I'm
going to go down this rabbit hole,
122
00:05:43,259 --> 00:05:44,944
let's see how deep we can go with it,
123
00:05:44,977 --> 00:05:46,763
metaphorically and-and physically,
124
00:05:46,796 --> 00:05:48,564
because it obviously took us
into the ocean.
125
00:05:48,998 --> 00:05:51,551
NARRATOR: Now, in Avatar:
The Way Of Water,
126
00:05:51,684 --> 00:05:54,654
he's giving his beloved characters
a family.
127
00:05:55,805 --> 00:05:57,640
I know one thing.
128
00:05:57,824 --> 00:05:58,975
[sobbing]
129
00:06:00,376 --> 00:06:04,197
Wherever we go,
this family is our fortress.
130
00:06:04,714 --> 00:06:08,384
ZOE: Now they're not just, you know,
two partners on the run.
131
00:06:08,418 --> 00:06:10,803
Now it's two partners
and children on the run.
132
00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:13,723
So, the heart is much more
compromised.
133
00:06:13,756 --> 00:06:15,708
I don't want to be late
for my own party.
134
00:06:17,593 --> 00:06:19,445
NARRATOR: Years after Avatar's end,
135
00:06:19,479 --> 00:06:21,731
The Way Of Water
finds Jake and Neytiri,
136
00:06:21,798 --> 00:06:23,983
the lovers and heroes of the first film,
137
00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:26,035
tending to a flock of children.
138
00:06:26,919 --> 00:06:29,622
What was important to you
about it being a blended family?
139
00:06:29,655 --> 00:06:32,742
It's really a mixed-race family
if you think about that dynamic.
140
00:06:32,775 --> 00:06:35,161
You know, Jake is-is essentially
partially human.
141
00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:39,999
He has a human mind in a Na'vi body,
but it's really an Avatar body.
142
00:06:40,032 --> 00:06:43,369
And Neytiri is a full-blooded Na'vi
143
00:06:43,469 --> 00:06:45,822
and so how does their community
look upon them
144
00:06:45,855 --> 00:06:47,740
and more importantly,
their children?
145
00:06:48,024 --> 00:06:50,026
NARRATOR: The responsibilities
of parenthood
146
00:06:50,093 --> 00:06:52,528
affecting their response to crisis.
147
00:06:52,845 --> 00:06:55,815
JAMES: The humans have come back,
and here they are having to go war
148
00:06:55,898 --> 00:06:57,183
pick up their weapons again.
149
00:06:57,216 --> 00:06:59,452
Now they've got children.
What does that look like?
150
00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,188
I think it speaks to everyone
because everyone has a family.
151
00:07:02,238 --> 00:07:04,123
I think it's about the lengths
that people will go
152
00:07:04,173 --> 00:07:06,542
to make sure your family
is safe and protected.
153
00:07:07,643 --> 00:07:09,729
JAMES: They're forced to leave
Neytiri's home.
154
00:07:09,779 --> 00:07:12,215
They wind up taken in
by a sea clan.
155
00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:14,500
We called it the fish
out of water story.
156
00:07:14,584 --> 00:07:17,487
They have to learn
how to adapt to being in water,
157
00:07:18,588 --> 00:07:19,889
just as our actors did.
158
00:07:22,141 --> 00:07:24,160
NARRATOR: Putting that family
beneath the waves
159
00:07:24,193 --> 00:07:26,979
would require major advances
in filmmaking.
160
00:07:27,013 --> 00:07:30,733
And performers who were up
for the unique challenge.
161
00:07:30,766 --> 00:07:33,085
I never get intimidated
by Jim's crazy ideas.
162
00:07:33,119 --> 00:07:34,821
I think that you always
get inspired by them.
163
00:07:34,854 --> 00:07:37,824
You can give me a two...
a close... a loose shot.
164
00:07:37,890 --> 00:07:39,158
SAM: He doesn't have the answers.
165
00:07:39,242 --> 00:07:42,061
He has his notions of
what he wants to achieve
166
00:07:42,145 --> 00:07:43,763
and then we become the Guinea pigs.
167
00:07:45,498 --> 00:07:47,083
It's very hard to say no to Jim.
168
00:07:47,183 --> 00:07:50,052
"No, I'd rather not do that.
No, I'm afraid to do that."
169
00:07:50,086 --> 00:07:52,171
These are words you just don't
use with him.
170
00:07:52,522 --> 00:07:54,223
Because he believes
you can do it, and kind of
171
00:07:54,273 --> 00:07:57,009
because he believes you can do it,
you go, "Well, I better do it."
172
00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,928
We really were
well-trained for this.
173
00:07:58,961 --> 00:08:02,331
I think what makes Jim
special are his dreams.
174
00:08:02,682 --> 00:08:06,702
He dreams these things,
and then he has the acumen
175
00:08:06,736 --> 00:08:08,254
to make them a reality.
176
00:08:08,287 --> 00:08:10,790
NARRATOR: And who better to help those
dreams take shape
177
00:08:10,823 --> 00:08:13,809
than the actress who joined with him
25 years ago
178
00:08:13,843 --> 00:08:16,329
for one of cinema's best-loved stories?
179
00:08:16,362 --> 00:08:17,413
Only...
180
00:08:17,446 --> 00:08:19,232
JAMES: So Zoe trusts me, Sam trusts me,
181
00:08:19,265 --> 00:08:20,716
Sigourney trusts me.
182
00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:24,570
And, uh, I didn't know where I was going
to stand with, uh, with Kate.
183
00:08:24,604 --> 00:08:27,490
They didn't know if she had any
reticence about wanting to...
184
00:08:27,523 --> 00:08:29,091
to act with me again.
185
00:08:29,125 --> 00:08:31,644
NARRATOR: Kate Winslet's response,
more on that later,
186
00:08:31,677 --> 00:08:34,447
would bring much of what's new
about Avatar: The Way Of Water
187
00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,117
into clear focus,
part of Cameron's own evolution.
188
00:08:38,150 --> 00:08:40,853
One of the things about
Jim Cameron is that
189
00:08:40,887 --> 00:08:44,974
on a movie set, I think there are few jobs
that he can't do
190
00:08:45,007 --> 00:08:48,511
better or as well as anybody.
191
00:08:48,544 --> 00:08:50,563
One of them is acting.
192
00:08:50,596 --> 00:08:52,582
And the other one is catering.
193
00:08:55,434 --> 00:08:56,869
NARRATOR: Cutting-edge moviemaking
194
00:08:56,903 --> 00:09:00,039
with an epic budget
and mega expectations...
195
00:09:02,325 --> 00:09:04,360
its first trailer earning a ridiculous
196
00:09:04,393 --> 00:09:08,097
148 million views
in the first 24 hours.
197
00:09:08,130 --> 00:09:11,450
It's yet another high-risk,
high-reward moment
198
00:09:11,484 --> 00:09:13,002
for James Cameron.
199
00:09:13,035 --> 00:09:16,038
You know, it's like working
on a moon mission.
200
00:09:16,072 --> 00:09:17,873
We spent five years building
this rocket,
201
00:09:17,907 --> 00:09:19,358
and it's either gonna blow up
on the pad
202
00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:20,593
or it's gonna go to the moon.
203
00:09:20,626 --> 00:09:23,129
And I couldn't,
I couldn't call that right now.
204
00:09:24,363 --> 00:09:26,315
NARRATOR: As his unprecedented
achievement
205
00:09:26,349 --> 00:09:28,284
awaits a world very different
from the one
206
00:09:28,317 --> 00:09:30,853
that welcomed Avatar in 2009,
207
00:09:30,886 --> 00:09:33,506
can the Way Of Water exert the same pull
208
00:09:33,539 --> 00:09:35,942
on the hearts and minds
of moviegoers?
209
00:09:35,975 --> 00:09:37,960
Cameron says yes.
210
00:09:37,994 --> 00:09:40,913
What kind of story did you want
to give the world
211
00:09:40,947 --> 00:09:42,732
on this second Avatar movie?
212
00:09:42,765 --> 00:09:44,850
I think there's a conscience
of the first film
213
00:09:44,884 --> 00:09:46,852
which I wanted to continue,
which is around
214
00:09:46,886 --> 00:09:49,372
our remaining natural spaces
215
00:09:49,405 --> 00:09:52,158
and how civilization
is encroaching on them.
216
00:09:52,191 --> 00:09:55,094
But I also just really fell in
love with these characters,
217
00:09:55,127 --> 00:09:57,713
Jake and Neytiri, and I thought,
what would that love story
218
00:09:57,747 --> 00:10:00,299
look like 15 years later?
219
00:10:00,333 --> 00:10:03,402
Then, how much more powerful
a story could it be?
220
00:10:09,775 --> 00:10:13,729
NARRATOR: She is every bit the beating
heart of the Avatar films.
221
00:10:13,763 --> 00:10:17,149
Neytiri, as portrayed via
performance capture
222
00:10:17,183 --> 00:10:19,535
for director James Cameron
223
00:10:19,568 --> 00:10:22,321
by the extraordinary Zoe Saldana.
224
00:10:24,607 --> 00:10:29,245
ZOE: The cadence of the scenes
and how the story is carried along
225
00:10:29,278 --> 00:10:31,747
is absolutely powerful.
226
00:10:31,781 --> 00:10:34,016
NARRATOR: From J.J. Abrams' Star Trek
films...
227
00:10:34,050 --> 00:10:37,203
We're receiving a stress signal
from the USS Kobayashi Maru.
228
00:10:37,236 --> 00:10:40,006
NARRATOR: To James Gunn's
Guardians Of The Galaxy series.
229
00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:42,174
You have the bearing
of a man of honor.
230
00:10:42,208 --> 00:10:44,593
NARRATOR: Saldana has been
a go-to talent
231
00:10:44,627 --> 00:10:47,279
for franchise directors
like Cameron.
232
00:10:47,313 --> 00:10:51,784
All of whom, she believes,
recognize in her a rebel spirit.
233
00:10:51,817 --> 00:10:55,938
I think that there's probably
something that they see in me
234
00:10:55,971 --> 00:10:57,340
that they see in themselves.
235
00:10:57,373 --> 00:11:01,427
I hear words like an outsider,
a misfit, uh, an underdog.
236
00:11:01,460 --> 00:11:05,531
And these were words that I
would use to describe myself
237
00:11:05,564 --> 00:11:07,216
when I was younger.
238
00:11:07,249 --> 00:11:10,453
KELLEY: What I love about Zoe is that
for better or for worse,
239
00:11:10,486 --> 00:11:13,673
she has a voice and she is not afraid
to use it.
240
00:11:13,706 --> 00:11:17,893
She is very strong,
and she's very confident.
241
00:11:17,927 --> 00:11:21,747
Above all of that,
she's extremely courageous.
242
00:11:21,781 --> 00:11:25,017
ZOE: As a daughter of immigrants,
as a woman of color,
243
00:11:25,051 --> 00:11:29,505
it gave me an empty,
vast space
244
00:11:29,538 --> 00:11:32,858
where I can be anything that I wanted.
245
00:11:32,892 --> 00:11:36,645
But I needed the gatekeepers
of these worlds
246
00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,715
to believe in me
and, and they did.
247
00:11:39,749 --> 00:11:41,050
This is our home.
248
00:11:41,083 --> 00:11:43,919
JAMES: Zoe came back
and I think on her very first day
249
00:11:43,953 --> 00:11:46,706
she said one of my favorite lines
in the film.
250
00:11:46,739 --> 00:11:49,825
And I was like,
"She's back. Neytiri's back."
251
00:11:49,859 --> 00:11:51,360
NARRATOR: So is Jake Sully.
252
00:11:51,394 --> 00:11:54,480
I got no plan, but I can
protect this family,
253
00:11:54,513 --> 00:11:56,165
that I can do!
254
00:11:56,198 --> 00:11:58,134
NARRATOR: Leaving his human form behind.
255
00:11:58,167 --> 00:11:59,719
Becoming a father.
256
00:11:59,752 --> 00:12:01,203
I feel her, dad.
257
00:12:01,237 --> 00:12:03,372
SAM: First one he was stuck
between his allegiances
258
00:12:03,406 --> 00:12:05,474
with the humans and his allegiances
with the Na'vi.
259
00:12:05,508 --> 00:12:08,127
Protect the people.
260
00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,163
This time, he's stuck between
his allegiances with
261
00:12:11,197 --> 00:12:13,866
remaining the legendary Na'vi warrior
262
00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:16,252
or the responsibilities to his family.
263
00:12:16,285 --> 00:12:20,239
NARRATOR: As an actor, Sam Worthington
has starred in another series, too.
264
00:12:20,272 --> 00:12:23,159
He's featured in three black ops
video games
265
00:12:23,192 --> 00:12:25,611
in the Call Of Duty franchise.
266
00:12:25,644 --> 00:12:27,396
As Avatar's leading man,
267
00:12:27,430 --> 00:12:30,332
he thrives working
for James Cameron.
268
00:12:30,366 --> 00:12:33,352
Look, Jim's this guy, I've always said
I'm, I'm his soldier.
269
00:12:33,385 --> 00:12:35,404
Jim's this director I'll do anything for,
270
00:12:35,438 --> 00:12:37,907
but he's in the trench right there
next to me.
271
00:12:37,940 --> 00:12:41,360
Well, Sam is his own soldier,
He can project incredible power.
272
00:12:41,393 --> 00:12:43,896
Incredible strength,
incredible leadership
273
00:12:43,929 --> 00:12:44,930
just through his voice.
274
00:12:44,964 --> 00:12:47,767
If the people harbor us,
they will die.
275
00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,369
And there was more of a consonance
between the character
276
00:12:50,402 --> 00:12:54,540
an-and Sam's real life because now
he's a father of, of two boys.
277
00:12:54,573 --> 00:12:57,293
I need you to be strong,
strong heart.
278
00:12:57,326 --> 00:13:02,198
JAMES: In many ways she and Sam
are the rock, the core of the story.
279
00:13:03,449 --> 00:13:05,584
But there's almost a whole act
280
00:13:05,618 --> 00:13:08,320
that leaves the parents behind
and follows the kids.
281
00:13:08,354 --> 00:13:10,372
NARRATOR: For The Way Of Water's
family members,
282
00:13:10,406 --> 00:13:13,142
team Avatar conducted
an extensive search
283
00:13:13,175 --> 00:13:16,879
to find the next generation
of Pandora inhabitants.
284
00:13:16,912 --> 00:13:18,848
I see you.
285
00:13:18,881 --> 00:13:22,151
MARGERY: We had over 15,000 submissions.
286
00:13:22,184 --> 00:13:23,552
Keep up, forest boy.
287
00:13:23,586 --> 00:13:27,106
MARGERY: 4,662 were seen.
288
00:13:27,139 --> 00:13:31,694
And we winnowed that down
and 16 kids came in for tests.
289
00:13:32,745 --> 00:13:34,864
NARRATOR: To play Jake and Neytiri's
first born,
290
00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:39,034
the UK's Jamie Flatters stood out
with this original monologue.
291
00:13:39,068 --> 00:13:43,455
Now I can join the armed forces,
pay tax, and get married.
292
00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:44,723
But I can't vote.
293
00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:46,742
NARRATOR: Entitled "It's time to speak"
294
00:13:46,775 --> 00:13:48,077
and got the part.
295
00:13:48,110 --> 00:13:50,713
When I flew to LA
for the final round I was told,
296
00:13:50,746 --> 00:13:52,548
"Look, you're, you're just an option.
297
00:13:52,581 --> 00:13:54,450
You're going to be too old
to do this."
298
00:13:54,483 --> 00:13:57,219
And when you're 16 to be told
you're too old, you get very
299
00:13:57,253 --> 00:13:59,121
you know, you're in crisis, right?
300
00:13:59,154 --> 00:14:03,108
I remember getting the
audition notice February of 2017,
301
00:14:03,142 --> 00:14:07,646
and being so excited that I showed up
a week early by accident.
302
00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,565
NARRATOR: An actress
and singer/songwriter.
303
00:14:09,598 --> 00:14:13,085
♪ California sun ♪
304
00:14:14,353 --> 00:14:17,473
NARRATOR: Trinity Bliss was just a baby
when the first film came out.
305
00:14:17,506 --> 00:14:20,659
She's playing Jake and Neytiri's
youngest child, Tuk.
306
00:14:21,243 --> 00:14:23,829
TRINITY: Having Jim as the director,
he really takes the time
307
00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:26,665
to explain to you about
the Pandora around us,
308
00:14:26,699 --> 00:14:29,451
so we each can really transfer ourselves
309
00:14:29,485 --> 00:14:32,021
into this amazing world that he's created.
310
00:14:32,054 --> 00:14:35,591
She's another one of these just kind of
luminous people, you know?
311
00:14:35,624 --> 00:14:37,676
She never missed a line.
Never missed a mark.
312
00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:40,779
And yet, at the same time,
she was completely spontaneous
313
00:14:40,813 --> 00:14:43,732
and would just make stuff up
that was completely in character.
314
00:14:43,766 --> 00:14:45,568
And some of it's in the, in the movie.
315
00:14:46,702 --> 00:14:48,671
NARRATOR: And then there was New Yorker
Bailey Bass.
316
00:14:48,704 --> 00:14:51,724
Now 19, a model since she was just 2.
317
00:14:51,757 --> 00:14:53,926
I didn't have much experience,
and because of that,
318
00:14:53,959 --> 00:14:55,628
I thought my audition was terrible.
319
00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:59,148
NARRATOR: Now playing Tsireya,
the daughter of her clan's leader.
320
00:14:59,181 --> 00:15:02,401
Avatar was my, like, big,
oh, my gosh, this is happening,
321
00:15:02,434 --> 00:15:04,336
I'm becoming an actor.
322
00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:07,056
NARRATOR: This role would be
a life-changer for Bailey
323
00:15:07,089 --> 00:15:08,674
in more ways than one.
324
00:15:08,707 --> 00:15:12,227
I didn't grow up... I had much
when it comes to love,
325
00:15:12,261 --> 00:15:15,981
but in terms of, like, financially,
we didn't have much.
326
00:15:16,015 --> 00:15:19,868
But we always got through it
327
00:15:19,902 --> 00:15:21,637
because my mom's just the best.
328
00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:23,489
And then I'm sitting in my mom's car,
329
00:15:23,522 --> 00:15:25,424
and I start tearing up
330
00:15:25,457 --> 00:15:28,510
because I reached this moment in my life,
in my career
331
00:15:28,544 --> 00:15:30,613
where I can take care of my family.
332
00:15:32,314 --> 00:15:34,817
NARRATOR: Virginian, Jack Champion,
who plays Spider,
333
00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:36,835
had been in a blockbuster before.
334
00:15:36,869 --> 00:15:39,922
That's him riding a bike in 2019's
335
00:15:39,955 --> 00:15:42,241
Avengers: Endgame.
336
00:15:42,274 --> 00:15:43,959
JACK: I'm in it for, like, ten seconds
337
00:15:43,993 --> 00:15:44,994
and I worked with Paul Rudd.
338
00:15:45,027 --> 00:15:47,529
I was like, hey, man,
I'm going to fly to LA
339
00:15:47,563 --> 00:15:49,264
to do this screen test for Avatar.
340
00:15:49,298 --> 00:15:52,201
And he's like, "Oh, that's good, kid.
You know, I wish you luck."
341
00:15:52,234 --> 00:15:55,270
And then I saw him again like,
"Dude, like, I did it."
342
00:15:55,304 --> 00:15:57,456
And he was like, "Oh, my gosh."
343
00:15:57,489 --> 00:15:58,824
I'm taller than him now.
344
00:16:00,225 --> 00:16:02,461
NARRATOR: On set, it was Trinity and Jack
taking care
345
00:16:02,494 --> 00:16:04,930
of The Ways Of Water's swear jar.
346
00:16:04,980 --> 00:16:07,016
Designed to keep
the language on-set
347
00:16:07,049 --> 00:16:09,685
appropriate for young ears.
348
00:16:09,718 --> 00:16:12,788
TRINITY: An F-bomb was $5 [bleep]
349
00:16:12,821 --> 00:16:16,275
and S-bomb was $1 [bleep]
350
00:16:16,592 --> 00:16:19,178
Sam, Slang? Oh geez.
351
00:16:19,461 --> 00:16:21,230
Sam was
our primary contributor
352
00:16:21,263 --> 00:16:23,632
and he'd just come to me and say
353
00:16:23,666 --> 00:16:26,168
"Can I start the day
with negative $40?"
354
00:16:26,201 --> 00:16:27,720
But he actually
tried really hard.
355
00:16:27,753 --> 00:16:29,772
He replaced some words
with "hot dog."
356
00:16:29,805 --> 00:16:32,374
NARRATOR: The money raised
went to a canine clinic
357
00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:34,643
but, ah, what could
have been.
358
00:16:35,377 --> 00:16:38,764
I'm wondering if you made any
donations to the swear jar, Jim?
359
00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:40,632
I could've funded
this movie
360
00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:42,534
if I was donating
to the swear jar.
361
00:16:43,068 --> 00:16:44,570
[chuckles]
362
00:16:49,358 --> 00:16:51,010
They're not aggressive.
363
00:16:51,593 --> 00:16:53,412
Relax, marine.
364
00:16:54,363 --> 00:16:57,166
NARRATOR: Attuned to the wonders
of Pandora
365
00:16:57,199 --> 00:16:59,551
imbued with a reverence
for the Na'vi.
366
00:16:59,585 --> 00:17:02,021
Dr. Grace Augustine
in the first Avatar...
367
00:17:02,271 --> 00:17:03,422
Come on, Grace, move!
368
00:17:03,455 --> 00:17:05,591
...sought to ensure
their safety.
369
00:17:05,624 --> 00:17:07,593
One idiot with a gun
is enough.
370
00:17:07,910 --> 00:17:09,111
NARRATOR: While in human form...
371
00:17:09,144 --> 00:17:10,713
Relations with the indigenous
are only getting worse.
372
00:17:10,746 --> 00:17:12,131
Yeah, that tends to happen
when you use
373
00:17:12,164 --> 00:17:13,232
machine guns on them.
374
00:17:13,265 --> 00:17:16,518
NARRATOR: This tough-talking scientist
worked to foil efforts
375
00:17:16,552 --> 00:17:18,170
to dislodge the Na'vi.
376
00:17:18,237 --> 00:17:20,839
Parker, there is time
to salvage the situation.
377
00:17:20,873 --> 00:17:22,808
Shut your piehole!
378
00:17:23,442 --> 00:17:25,494
Or what, Ranger Rick?
379
00:17:26,078 --> 00:17:27,563
You going to shoot me?
380
00:17:27,596 --> 00:17:30,682
NARRATOR: Sigourney Weaver,
three-time Oscar nominated
381
00:17:30,716 --> 00:17:33,185
actress, honored for playing
another scientist
382
00:17:33,218 --> 00:17:35,254
Dian Fossey
in Gorillas In The Mist
383
00:17:35,287 --> 00:17:38,690
If I ever see you or
your meat wagon again
384
00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:41,110
you'll be lucky if you don't end up
in a wooden box.
385
00:17:41,393 --> 00:17:44,012
NARRATOR: Bad boss Katharine Parker
in Working Girl...
386
00:17:44,046 --> 00:17:46,515
And this woman
is my secretary.
387
00:17:47,649 --> 00:17:49,184
She's not.
388
00:17:49,251 --> 00:17:51,153
Oh, no? Ask her.
389
00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:55,107
NARRATOR: And Ellen Ripley
in the 1986 sequel Aliens
390
00:17:55,140 --> 00:17:57,476
written and directed
by James Cameron
391
00:17:57,509 --> 00:18:02,047
who 36 years ago, gave her
a career-defining line.
392
00:18:02,765 --> 00:18:04,967
Get away from her, you bitch!
393
00:18:07,102 --> 00:18:10,005
NARRATOR: Securing Ripley's place
in the top rank of action heroes
394
00:18:10,038 --> 00:18:13,659
female or male, and a creative
partnership with Cameron
395
00:18:13,692 --> 00:18:16,044
through the first Avatar
and even beyond.
396
00:18:16,512 --> 00:18:18,380
There's so many things
I admire about him.
397
00:18:18,413 --> 00:18:21,984
SIGOURNEY: He's incredibly generous.
He believes in us.
398
00:18:22,034 --> 00:18:23,552
He's a great friend.
399
00:18:23,585 --> 00:18:27,072
You know, I think if I was
really in trouble, I'd call Jim.
400
00:18:27,706 --> 00:18:30,175
NARRATOR: Even between these friends,
there's a secret
401
00:18:30,209 --> 00:18:31,910
that's never been shared.
402
00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:35,547
How long had you known Jim
Cameron before he found out
403
00:18:35,581 --> 00:18:37,566
that you had begun your career
404
00:18:37,599 --> 00:18:39,668
with a project called "Titanic?"
405
00:18:39,701 --> 00:18:41,637
I don't think I've ever
told him about it.
406
00:18:41,670 --> 00:18:42,771
[laughing]
407
00:18:42,921 --> 00:18:47,793
NARRATOR: Her Titanic, a comedy, a play
produced off-Broadway in 1976.
408
00:18:48,026 --> 00:18:49,778
He knows nothing about it.
409
00:18:49,812 --> 00:18:52,047
It wasn't quite as big a hit
as his movie.
410
00:18:53,031 --> 00:18:54,216
Grace...
411
00:18:54,249 --> 00:18:56,768
NARRATOR: When the first Avatar
ended, it seemed like
412
00:18:56,802 --> 00:18:59,738
Dr. Grace Augustine
had breathed her last.
413
00:18:59,771 --> 00:19:00,806
Grace...
414
00:19:00,856 --> 00:19:03,792
NARRATOR: A lunch found actor
and director hoping to reteam
415
00:19:03,826 --> 00:19:05,794
on the upcoming Avatars.
416
00:19:05,928 --> 00:19:06,995
What do you remember
about that lunch?
417
00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:08,030
[laughing]
418
00:19:08,063 --> 00:19:09,581
Well, I'd already
made up my mind.
419
00:19:09,615 --> 00:19:11,366
I just needed to get her
to agree.
420
00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:13,702
NARRATOR: Cameron
giving Jake and Neytiri
421
00:19:13,735 --> 00:19:15,487
an adopted
teenage daughter.
422
00:19:17,372 --> 00:19:18,390
Kiri.
423
00:19:19,291 --> 00:19:22,461
JAMES: The obvious choice to play
that character was Sigourney.
424
00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:24,163
And in fact, I wrote it for her.
425
00:19:24,229 --> 00:19:26,114
You know, I was thinking,
"How can I get Sigourney
426
00:19:26,148 --> 00:19:27,449
back in this damn movie?"
427
00:19:27,482 --> 00:19:30,135
How did he tell you he wanted
you to play someone
428
00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:31,770
who was 14 years old?
429
00:19:31,803 --> 00:19:34,122
Well, you know, he said
430
00:19:34,156 --> 00:19:37,709
"Come on.
We both know you're 14 at heart."
431
00:19:37,926 --> 00:19:39,878
"So, I don't think this is going
to be a problem for you."
432
00:19:40,546 --> 00:19:42,748
NARRATOR: Playing a character
decades younger
433
00:19:42,781 --> 00:19:45,367
it's perhaps her biggest acting
challenge ever.
434
00:19:46,001 --> 00:19:48,387
SIGOURNEY: I don't think
he would've offered it to me
435
00:19:48,437 --> 00:19:49,588
if we didn't know each other
436
00:19:49,621 --> 00:19:51,823
if he didn't know
what a goofball I was.
437
00:19:52,407 --> 00:19:54,126
And, basically, that is who I am.
438
00:19:54,159 --> 00:19:57,796
And you know, Kiri is much more
perhaps serious.
439
00:19:58,297 --> 00:20:01,400
-Earnest.
-Earnest, yeah, and searching.
440
00:20:01,433 --> 00:20:02,818
Hi, mom!
441
00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:05,370
NARRATOR: Just as her teen character
Kiri is searching
442
00:20:05,404 --> 00:20:07,456
Weaver could recall
grappling with her own
443
00:20:07,489 --> 00:20:09,591
life issues
as she was growing up.
444
00:20:09,942 --> 00:20:15,297
SIGOURNEY: I had, as many of us do,
a very memorable adolescence.
445
00:20:15,464 --> 00:20:18,934
I was this tall when I was 11.
I remember all of it so well.
446
00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:22,104
And just wanting to shrink,
wanting to disappear.
447
00:20:22,454 --> 00:20:24,389
I was terribly shy.
448
00:20:24,423 --> 00:20:27,476
So that sense of alienation
when you're young
449
00:20:27,509 --> 00:20:30,545
that sense
of, like, conflict with your mom
450
00:20:30,579 --> 00:20:34,499
maybe, or... How did those
things sort of come to play?
451
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,203
I remember all of that
very vividly.
452
00:20:38,403 --> 00:20:41,707
I think children feel things
so strongly.
453
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:47,079
And, I think Kiri takes things
very much to heart.
454
00:20:47,179 --> 00:20:49,014
So what does her heartbeat
sound like?
455
00:20:52,818 --> 00:20:53,969
Mighty.
456
00:20:54,386 --> 00:20:57,439
NARRATOR: Kiri's look, based on an
adjustment that Weaver suggested
457
00:20:57,472 --> 00:21:00,509
to Cameron, who'd initially
envisioned her as a poised
458
00:21:00,542 --> 00:21:02,978
note-perfect teen version
of Neytiri.
459
00:21:03,478 --> 00:21:07,232
And I said, "That's not Kiri."
460
00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:11,620
You know, Neytiri is like this
incredible goddess, warrior
461
00:21:11,653 --> 00:21:14,556
who's so perfect,
who's so beautiful.
462
00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:16,508
You know, she can do anything.
463
00:21:16,541 --> 00:21:21,363
I'm telling you that as a 13,
14-year-old girl, I don't ever
464
00:21:21,396 --> 00:21:24,599
imagine that I'm going to be
anything like that
465
00:21:24,633 --> 00:21:26,134
and I'd rather not try.
466
00:21:26,501 --> 00:21:27,736
CHRIS: And he heard you
when you said that?
467
00:21:27,769 --> 00:21:29,638
SIGOURNEY: He heard.
It went from this very
468
00:21:29,671 --> 00:21:31,823
composed-looking
young woman
469
00:21:31,857 --> 00:21:33,909
to what they call awkward Kiri.
470
00:21:33,959 --> 00:21:36,945
The challenge for you is that
you were acting along with
471
00:21:36,979 --> 00:21:40,115
other young people who actually
are children right now.
472
00:21:40,148 --> 00:21:44,119
May I just say how grateful
I am to all the kids
473
00:21:44,152 --> 00:21:47,506
for accepting me
as one of the group.
474
00:21:47,889 --> 00:21:51,026
I did all the physical
preparation with them.
475
00:21:51,159 --> 00:21:54,846
I was determined not to be this
old lady who couldn't do.
476
00:21:56,214 --> 00:21:57,933
NARRATOR: So, she committed fully.
477
00:21:57,966 --> 00:22:01,286
Doing parkour alongside
her real-life co-stars.
478
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,739
Now more of a mouth open,
kinda, hah!
479
00:22:04,139 --> 00:22:06,908
NARRATOR: Like Jack Champion,
whom she'd auditioned with.
480
00:22:07,025 --> 00:22:10,012
She was the most warm,
welcoming person, and made me
481
00:22:10,045 --> 00:22:13,648
feel really like, okay, we're
having fun, instead of, like
482
00:22:13,682 --> 00:22:14,750
this is an audition.
483
00:22:14,783 --> 00:22:17,836
It was one of the most
amazing experiences of my life
484
00:22:17,869 --> 00:22:23,709
because here is this beautiful
boy who, we just grab
485
00:22:23,742 --> 00:22:25,944
each other's hands
and I fell in love
486
00:22:25,977 --> 00:22:30,148
with Jack then and even though
now he's a huge tall man
487
00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:33,902
that 12-year-old will always be dear
to my heart.
488
00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:36,038
I forget that I'm working
with Sigourney
489
00:22:36,071 --> 00:22:38,473
and she just becomes Kiri,
the character.
490
00:22:38,557 --> 00:22:40,575
NARRATOR: A character born
of a unique trust
491
00:22:40,726 --> 00:22:42,461
between actor and director.
492
00:22:42,494 --> 00:22:46,515
Jim gave me total freedom.
And I just would let Kiri out.
493
00:22:46,665 --> 00:22:50,202
At this point in my work
494
00:22:50,235 --> 00:22:53,021
I know just to, to put a lot of work
495
00:22:53,055 --> 00:22:54,456
and thought in,
and then you
496
00:22:54,489 --> 00:22:57,075
just get out of the way
of the character.
497
00:22:57,125 --> 00:22:59,544
And so, I, I really wasn't
driving this thing.
498
00:22:59,578 --> 00:23:01,780
SIGOURNEY: She was pretty much
driving it.
499
00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:04,232
And I was, you know,
running after her.
500
00:23:09,438 --> 00:23:11,723
Alright, the moment
of truth.
501
00:23:12,407 --> 00:23:13,992
Somebody's life is about
to change.
502
00:23:15,794 --> 00:23:19,164
NARRATOR: One life surely did
when Kate Winslet was cast
503
00:23:19,197 --> 00:23:21,049
by James Cameron in Titanic.
504
00:23:21,316 --> 00:23:24,820
I feel like this man gave me
opportunity
505
00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:26,555
and belief in myself.
506
00:23:26,638 --> 00:23:29,307
Because when you're
a young actor, it's terrifying.
507
00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:32,811
NARRATOR: Up to that point, she'd been
an up-and-coming British film actress,
508
00:23:32,844 --> 00:23:34,996
known for
critically-acclaimed movies
509
00:23:35,030 --> 00:23:36,047
Heavenly Creatures.
510
00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:38,450
It's all frightfully romantic.
511
00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,103
And Sense And Sensibility.
512
00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:47,843
Then in 1997, Titanic made
Kate Winslet, at just 22
513
00:23:47,876 --> 00:23:49,177
into a movie star.
514
00:23:49,211 --> 00:23:52,831
NEWS REPORTER 1: Titanic is expected
to cruise past the $200 million
515
00:23:52,864 --> 00:23:54,533
mark at the box office
tomorrow.
516
00:23:54,566 --> 00:23:56,268
NEWS REPORTER 2: The Oscars crowd
is in a frenzy!
517
00:23:56,535 --> 00:23:57,803
NEWS REPORTER 3: Are you big fans
of Kate Winslet?
518
00:23:57,836 --> 00:23:59,271
ALL: Yes!
519
00:24:01,323 --> 00:24:05,177
KATE: It is a very kind of unreal
feeling and without sounding daft,
520
00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:08,330
I do kind of think, how come
this has happened to me?
521
00:24:10,015 --> 00:24:11,500
NARRATOR: Much of that with
Titanic
522
00:24:11,533 --> 00:24:13,652
had to do with the work ethic
she'd displayed.
523
00:24:14,369 --> 00:24:17,205
When did you sort of learn
how strong you were?
524
00:24:17,239 --> 00:24:18,807
Well, I've always had stamina.
525
00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:20,909
[gasping]
Ah!
526
00:24:22,327 --> 00:24:23,795
People have always said that
about me.
527
00:24:23,845 --> 00:24:25,464
Like, "Oh, God, Kate,
you're so..."
528
00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:28,116
What is it that people always say to me,
"Oh, she's a trooper!"
529
00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:29,317
They always say that to me.
530
00:24:29,384 --> 00:24:31,036
They've been saying
that to me for years.
531
00:24:31,102 --> 00:24:34,606
NARRATOR: As she discussed with
Stephen Colbert back in 2017...
532
00:24:34,689 --> 00:24:39,444
-You were really cold?
-Yeah, I was really [bleep] cold!
533
00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:42,497
Kate Winslet.
534
00:24:43,715 --> 00:24:47,135
NARRATOR: An A-lister, she'd win
a best actress Oscar in 2009
535
00:24:47,169 --> 00:24:48,270
for The Reader.
536
00:24:48,303 --> 00:24:52,290
I think I was probably eight years old
and staring in the bathroom mirror
537
00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,359
and this would have been
a shampoo bottle.
538
00:24:55,343 --> 00:24:57,362
Well, it's not a shampoo bottle now!
539
00:24:59,414 --> 00:25:02,984
NARRATOR: Then, two decades after Titanic,
a familiar face
540
00:25:03,018 --> 00:25:05,403
resurfaced with a new project.
541
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,573
Kate had been rather public
about the stress on her
542
00:25:08,657 --> 00:25:10,208
on Titanic.
543
00:25:10,659 --> 00:25:12,711
I mean, she and I have been pals
since then.
544
00:25:12,744 --> 00:25:15,247
We've buried that hatchet,
you know, 20 years ago.
545
00:25:15,547 --> 00:25:18,049
But I didn't know that
she was going to say yes to this.
546
00:25:18,083 --> 00:25:19,651
JAKE: Let's get it done.
547
00:25:21,219 --> 00:25:24,139
NARRATOR: This was a chance
to work together again.
548
00:25:24,239 --> 00:25:27,592
A proffered role for Winslet
in the Avatar saga.
549
00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:29,661
KATE: I play Ronal.
550
00:25:29,744 --> 00:25:34,366
Jim described her as being
the fearless, tenacious warrior
551
00:25:34,449 --> 00:25:36,368
goddess, leader
of the water tribe.
552
00:25:36,418 --> 00:25:39,654
And I'm just like,
tick, tick, tick, tick.
553
00:25:39,721 --> 00:25:42,807
You're the first director
she's ever worked with more than once.
554
00:25:42,908 --> 00:25:44,910
I didn't even realize that
until a few days ago
555
00:25:44,943 --> 00:25:46,211
somebody mentioned it to me.
556
00:25:46,244 --> 00:25:49,114
So, I guess we can drive a stake
through that old dumb myth.
557
00:25:49,164 --> 00:25:51,266
I was just excited. Yeah.
My children were like...
558
00:25:51,299 --> 00:25:53,418
"Oh, mum, you have to do it. You have to
do it. You have to do it."
559
00:25:53,718 --> 00:25:56,021
I said, "Okay, okay.
You know, we'll read the script."
560
00:25:56,421 --> 00:25:58,924
It was almost like they didn't
care what the script was like!
561
00:25:59,324 --> 00:26:02,711
NARRATOR: This second Avatar film
and those still to come reunite
562
00:26:02,761 --> 00:26:05,413
Winslet with Cameron
and the water,
563
00:26:05,447 --> 00:26:07,566
with some key differences this time.
564
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:11,453
KATE:You know, Titanic, so much
water, moving water.
565
00:26:11,486 --> 00:26:13,688
-And cold water.
-And cold water.
566
00:26:13,722 --> 00:26:16,825
So there was never any way of being able
567
00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:20,178
to truly predict
how the water would behave.
568
00:26:21,096 --> 00:26:24,950
Whereas on Avatar...
569
00:26:24,983 --> 00:26:27,986
the tank was huge.
It was secure.
570
00:26:28,053 --> 00:26:30,088
And actually,
it was incredibly calm.
571
00:26:30,355 --> 00:26:32,090
It's better than being in
a corset for seven months
572
00:26:32,157 --> 00:26:33,775
on a sinking ship.
I promise you that.
573
00:26:33,858 --> 00:26:34,926
[chuckles]
574
00:26:35,477 --> 00:26:38,079
NARRATOR: Now, she put her experience
to good use,
575
00:26:38,179 --> 00:26:41,199
displaying leadership to younger actors
on the set.
576
00:26:41,549 --> 00:26:44,552
JAMES: She's such a powerhouse,
as a star in her own right,
577
00:26:44,586 --> 00:26:47,672
I thought, well, you know, is she gonna
even wanna be directed?
578
00:26:47,722 --> 00:26:50,075
It turns out that, yes and no.
579
00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:52,227
The way Kate does it is,
she listens very carefully
580
00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:56,331
to what I say and then she directs
everyone else in the scene for me.
581
00:26:56,364 --> 00:26:59,117
It does take a female voice,
almost a mother to say,
582
00:26:59,167 --> 00:27:02,287
"Okay, come on, everyone,
all look at me for one second."
583
00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:04,456
"I think what Jim is going to want
is to see you
584
00:27:04,506 --> 00:27:06,491
more in this kind of space,
is that right, Jim?"
585
00:27:06,825 --> 00:27:09,577
BAILEY: When we were filming I was like,
"Oh my gosh, she's from Titanic."
586
00:27:09,611 --> 00:27:12,180
She's an icon." I can't put it into words.
587
00:27:12,213 --> 00:27:14,366
She's Kate Winslet.
You wanna learn from her.
588
00:27:14,399 --> 00:27:18,136
Every time she gives advice,
I take it to heart.
589
00:27:19,421 --> 00:27:21,856
KATE: I remember being a young
actor and wishing at times
590
00:27:21,906 --> 00:27:24,976
I had someone to hold my hand and say,
"It's okay to make mistakes."
591
00:27:26,261 --> 00:27:28,763
NARRATOR: Winslet's character Ronal
and her guidance,
592
00:27:28,813 --> 00:27:31,066
helping the film to address new issues.
593
00:27:31,099 --> 00:27:33,735
Like when Jake and the rest of
the Sullys must leave
594
00:27:33,768 --> 00:27:38,323
their part of Pandora and come into
contact with a different clan of Na'vi.
595
00:27:39,274 --> 00:27:42,477
KATE: That's where Jim is so brilliant,
is that he constructs
596
00:27:42,510 --> 00:27:44,913
these strong female roles
who are resilient.
597
00:27:44,946 --> 00:27:47,015
They're robust.
They live with their heart.
598
00:27:47,065 --> 00:27:50,602
They lead with intention,
and they are true leaders.
599
00:27:51,853 --> 00:27:54,506
NARRATOR: Maori actor Cliff Curtis
plays her husband.
600
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,109
CLIFF: That negotiation between one
tribe and another.
601
00:27:58,143 --> 00:28:00,145
One clan and another.
One family and another.
602
00:28:00,178 --> 00:28:03,782
Trying to figure out
how to find an agreement.
603
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:05,850
How are we gonna get along?
604
00:28:05,884 --> 00:28:09,337
She is, I think, understandably
suspicious of anyone
605
00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:13,108
who might come in and threaten
this harmony and this peace.
606
00:28:13,375 --> 00:28:18,380
She is a tenacious mother
who will stop at nothing
607
00:28:18,446 --> 00:28:21,433
to protect her family
and her, and her tribe.
608
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,087
NARRATOR: Winslet's warrior Ronal shown
going into battle while pregnant.
609
00:28:26,121 --> 00:28:28,306
JAMES: From having five kids,
I just thought,
610
00:28:28,339 --> 00:28:30,225
everybody's always talking about
female empowerment.
611
00:28:30,275 --> 00:28:34,012
And they never show a pregnant
woman doing anything physical,
612
00:28:34,579 --> 00:28:37,248
like fighting for her life
or for her children's lives.
613
00:28:37,298 --> 00:28:39,467
I don't know a single
pregnant woman who got pregnant,
614
00:28:39,501 --> 00:28:40,902
sat down, and did nothing.
615
00:28:40,935 --> 00:28:43,037
I climbed mountains
through pregnancies.
616
00:28:43,071 --> 00:28:45,673
I mean, my goodness, I think
my water broke when I was actually
617
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,559
like practically on the top
of a mountain.
618
00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:51,846
It's amazing to see that
celebrated on screen.
619
00:28:51,946 --> 00:28:54,399
Cliff Curtis' character puts
his hand on her, on her belly
620
00:28:54,432 --> 00:28:57,602
and says, "You should stay back."
She says, "I ride."
621
00:28:58,420 --> 00:29:02,524
Grabs her atlatl spear and then
walks out and then she goes
622
00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:04,192
and kicks serious ass.
623
00:29:04,242 --> 00:29:07,495
NARRATOR: 25 years after making history,
Winslet and Cameron
624
00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:08,863
looking out for each other.
625
00:29:08,897 --> 00:29:11,683
I told her, you know, we'd contain it
so that it didn't stand
626
00:29:11,766 --> 00:29:14,185
in the way of her, you know,
winning another Emmy or Oscar.
627
00:29:14,252 --> 00:29:15,904
But it's still full on.
628
00:29:15,954 --> 00:29:18,506
Because, you know, no actor of
Kate's stature wants to hear
629
00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:22,427
that it's not full on, you know.
And she of course made it full-on.
630
00:29:23,144 --> 00:29:28,082
NARRATOR: In doing so, she did for younger
actors what Cameron once did for her.
631
00:29:28,716 --> 00:29:31,586
KATE: My whole thing on a set is
setting everyone up to succeed.
632
00:29:31,786 --> 00:29:35,457
We all have the ability
to nurture that person
633
00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:37,459
and to tell them, you can do it.
634
00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:40,678
It was lovely, him kind of
letting me contribute to that.
635
00:29:43,064 --> 00:29:45,233
NARRATOR: No director has done
a better job of conveying
636
00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:49,988
the absolute terror of trying to
survive under water, or failing to,
637
00:29:50,021 --> 00:29:51,906
than James Cameron has.
638
00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:54,576
From Ed Harris and
Mary Elizabeth Mastrontonio
639
00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:57,395
gasping for life in 1989's
The Abyss...
640
00:29:57,428 --> 00:29:58,813
Help! I'm scared!
641
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,833
NARRATOR: To Danny Nucci's Fabrizio
and his final,
642
00:30:01,866 --> 00:30:03,935
fatal plunge in Titanic.
643
00:30:06,704 --> 00:30:09,858
Not to mention Jack Dawson
slipping off that doorframe
644
00:30:09,891 --> 00:30:11,726
into the eternal depths.
645
00:30:11,943 --> 00:30:13,428
But now?
646
00:30:16,030 --> 00:30:18,383
This looks like fun.
647
00:30:18,850 --> 00:30:21,152
When you're underwater,
it's easy to pretend to be
648
00:30:21,219 --> 00:30:23,905
the character and just like,
stay in the scene and be like,
649
00:30:24,022 --> 00:30:26,174
"Okay, now, you know,
I'm in, like, the oceans
650
00:30:26,207 --> 00:30:28,293
you know,
interacting with this creature."
651
00:30:28,510 --> 00:30:32,013
NARRATOR: In Avatar: The Way of Water
Cameron's performance-captured
652
00:30:32,096 --> 00:30:35,350
actors are swimming stress-free
beneath the waves
653
00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:37,802
with full facial expressiveness.
654
00:30:37,986 --> 00:30:40,305
TRINITY: I always looked forward to
days all together there
655
00:30:40,338 --> 00:30:42,974
on the surface before we go down
into the scene.
656
00:30:43,024 --> 00:30:47,812
It was a very kind of
Zen experience and very unifying.
657
00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:51,115
We had to look completely
comfortable, as if this was
658
00:30:51,149 --> 00:30:53,318
just, you know, our element.
659
00:30:54,285 --> 00:30:58,039
We really were on a journey,
which you could call the way of water.
660
00:30:58,089 --> 00:31:00,074
We had to learn the way of water.
661
00:31:00,174 --> 00:31:02,210
So that we could
show it convincingly.
662
00:31:03,611 --> 00:31:05,413
NARRATOR: So, how did they do that?
663
00:31:05,446 --> 00:31:08,933
The answer begins with Cameron
and his love of the sea.
664
00:31:09,183 --> 00:31:11,903
CHRIS: That goes back to your...
I guess your youngest days
665
00:31:11,936 --> 00:31:14,739
watching Jacques Cousteau, right?
What's the genesis of it?
666
00:31:14,772 --> 00:31:18,359
Jacques Cousteau made it
his mission to bring the oceans to us
667
00:31:18,393 --> 00:31:23,097
so we'd take better care of them,
you know, hopefully with some success.
668
00:31:24,866 --> 00:31:26,484
I was landlocked in Canada.
669
00:31:26,517 --> 00:31:28,219
I was hundreds of miles
from the nearest ocean.
670
00:31:28,269 --> 00:31:32,507
I'd never seen the ocean in person,
but I fell in love with it then.
671
00:31:32,607 --> 00:31:33,875
So, I learned how to scuba dive.
672
00:31:33,908 --> 00:31:37,395
My first open water dive was in
the creek in my village,
673
00:31:37,962 --> 00:31:41,633
Chippawa Creek, depth 15 feet.
674
00:31:43,685 --> 00:31:48,122
NARRATOR: Freediving, plunging into the
deep, unsupported by breathing apparatus
675
00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:50,558
was on Cameron's mind
as he pondered,
676
00:31:50,608 --> 00:31:53,661
how could he get his cast
to act underwater?
677
00:31:53,695 --> 00:31:57,815
I really kinda went back to free diving
probably about 20 years ago
678
00:31:57,882 --> 00:32:00,568
and just really, you know,
became an aficionado of it.
679
00:32:00,602 --> 00:32:03,137
And I thought, well, let's just
incorporate that into the film.
680
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:06,291
James Cameron, he's such
a water person,
681
00:32:06,324 --> 00:32:08,293
and adventurer, an explorer.
682
00:32:08,326 --> 00:32:11,312
And to help him see his vision
come to life is pretty awesome.
683
00:32:14,465 --> 00:32:16,834
NARRATOR: Kirk Krack,
a life-long freediver
684
00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:18,336
and experienced trainer,
685
00:32:18,369 --> 00:32:20,571
is capable of holding
his breath underwater
686
00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:22,323
for up to seven minutes.
687
00:32:22,373 --> 00:32:24,242
A skill he said he could teach
688
00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:25,927
Avatar's cast and crew
689
00:32:25,977 --> 00:32:28,062
under his careful supervision.
690
00:32:28,096 --> 00:32:30,498
And here we go. Two minutes.
691
00:32:30,531 --> 00:32:32,116
I think he's half fish.
692
00:32:33,134 --> 00:32:35,720
You'll notice when you have
a conversation with him
693
00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:37,905
that he breathes differently.
694
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,409
NARRATOR: He's trained Tom Cruise
in Mission Impossible.
695
00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:45,964
And Margot Robbie
in Suicide Squad.
696
00:32:48,182 --> 00:32:50,284
But he hasn't trained you.
697
00:32:50,318 --> 00:32:52,487
So do not do this at home.
698
00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:55,773
How long could you hold your breath
before you began this movie?
699
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:59,477
I was able to sort of do
a breath hold of a minute.
700
00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:01,696
I wanted to avoid it
in the beginning.
701
00:33:01,729 --> 00:33:03,815
It's nerve-racking,
holding your breath.
702
00:33:03,848 --> 00:33:07,201
ZOE: I'm an island girl.
I felt comfortable in the ocean.
703
00:33:07,235 --> 00:33:09,120
but I never really felt safe.
704
00:33:09,153 --> 00:33:14,575
So, this challenge was unnerving
to say the least.
705
00:33:17,261 --> 00:33:19,530
NARRATOR: Starting in summer 2017
706
00:33:19,564 --> 00:33:22,166
with a trip to Hawaii
and white-board sessions.
707
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,485
We went to school,
basically, you know, for weeks.
708
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:28,222
All that oxygen in the lungs
now gets squeezed.
709
00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:32,460
NARRATOR: Krack began to teach the ins
and outs of his breath-hold technique.
710
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:35,229
ZOE: We were in the water,
711
00:33:35,263 --> 00:33:38,266
half of the cast
became certified in scuba diving.
712
00:33:38,316 --> 00:33:40,935
NARRATOR: But the bulk of training
and filming took place later
713
00:33:40,968 --> 00:33:43,254
in the movie's massive water tanks.
714
00:33:43,304 --> 00:33:46,808
This one holds up to 265,000 gallons.
715
00:33:47,225 --> 00:33:49,193
KIRK: Almost all the cast
trained in here.
716
00:33:49,227 --> 00:33:52,213
They prepped via a series
of elite breathing techniques,
717
00:33:52,246 --> 00:33:55,566
and by inhaling
an oxygen-augmented air mix.
718
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,569
It's pushing yourself
to the limit in an environment
719
00:33:58,603 --> 00:34:01,572
that is foreign to all of us,
you know what I mean?
720
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:03,725
You do go into this
kind of meditative,
721
00:34:03,758 --> 00:34:06,811
almost trance-like state
because you have to relax.
722
00:34:06,894 --> 00:34:09,497
You've got no option
but to clear your mind.
723
00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:14,085
Because you use more oxygen
holding that breath
724
00:34:14,118 --> 00:34:16,054
than you do thinking
about other things.
725
00:34:16,087 --> 00:34:17,739
I can't even
726
00:34:18,873 --> 00:34:23,411
describe what it felt like
to be 30 feet deep in that tank,
727
00:34:23,444 --> 00:34:26,314
and with everything
that I was having to carry
728
00:34:26,347 --> 00:34:31,052
for Neytiri and just waiting for Jim
to say action and just releasing.
729
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,209
NARRATOR: The results were, what else?
730
00:34:38,242 --> 00:34:41,496
Breathtaking for the cast
at any age.
731
00:34:41,529 --> 00:34:43,948
Kirk Krack came to me and said that,
732
00:34:43,981 --> 00:34:45,750
"we wrote down
during your audition
733
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,869
that you were uncomfortable in the water.
734
00:34:47,902 --> 00:34:51,055
And you have excelled more than
we could have imagined."
735
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:53,141
And that meant a lot.
736
00:34:53,741 --> 00:34:55,910
Once you were done with the training,
737
00:34:55,943 --> 00:34:57,962
how long could you
hold your breath for?
738
00:34:57,995 --> 00:35:02,500
Well, a static breath hold,
where I'm lying with my face in water,
739
00:35:02,533 --> 00:35:05,319
-Six and a half minutes.
-Five minutes and thirty-three seconds.
740
00:35:05,353 --> 00:35:07,555
-Three minutes.
-Twenty-four seconds.
741
00:35:08,022 --> 00:35:09,607
We were competing
742
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,728
in terms of who
was going to hold their breath longer.
743
00:35:13,761 --> 00:35:15,546
Somewhere between
four and five minutes.
744
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:17,498
If I had to be under there
for four minutes,
745
00:35:17,532 --> 00:35:19,066
I got myself to four minutes.
746
00:35:19,100 --> 00:35:22,019
I think I'm in second or third place,
747
00:35:22,053 --> 00:35:23,554
but definitely not in first.
748
00:35:23,588 --> 00:35:26,174
I think Kate Winslet held hers longer.
749
00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:28,626
Yes, man, look at that!
750
00:35:29,677 --> 00:35:30,895
It's not a competition.
751
00:35:32,163 --> 00:35:35,516
NARRATOR: But because of it,
audiences get to see untethered joy
752
00:35:35,550 --> 00:35:39,053
and pure exhilaration
in The Way of Water.
753
00:35:39,086 --> 00:35:42,073
It took months for us
to get there.
754
00:35:42,106 --> 00:35:43,391
It was wonderful.
755
00:35:43,424 --> 00:35:46,711
It wasn't easy, but my god,
was it rewarding.
756
00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:48,346
It was amazing.
757
00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:54,285
[instrumental music]
758
00:35:55,503 --> 00:35:57,205
WOMAN 1: To your right, please.
759
00:35:57,805 --> 00:35:59,557
TRINITY: I'm feeling really excited.
760
00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:01,409
- This is action.
- Oh, my gosh.
761
00:36:01,442 --> 00:36:02,693
Time for the premiere.
762
00:36:02,727 --> 00:36:06,280
We're here at the world premiere,
so I feel so lucky to be here for Avatar
763
00:36:06,314 --> 00:36:07,949
and part of this Avatar family.
764
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:10,351
Come with me.
765
00:36:13,487 --> 00:36:14,856
Stars are born!
766
00:36:22,146 --> 00:36:24,332
Why do we make movies?
To share them.
767
00:36:24,365 --> 00:36:26,234
And now tonight, we're finally
getting to share it,
768
00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:28,586
and people can see
what we're talking about.
769
00:36:29,053 --> 00:36:30,788
MAN 1: And bank to your right please!
770
00:36:31,806 --> 00:36:35,426
Jim is so immersed
in the vision of Avatar
771
00:36:35,459 --> 00:36:36,561
and what it is.
772
00:36:40,114 --> 00:36:43,734
It's an extremely clear universe
that he's created.
773
00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:49,740
SIGOURNEY WEAVER: I think it's one
of the most beautiful, most stunning,
774
00:36:49,774 --> 00:36:52,994
delightful, terrifying, you know,
all the things you want
775
00:36:53,027 --> 00:36:54,495
in a Jim Cameron film.
776
00:36:56,247 --> 00:36:57,932
I think it's worth you dressing up
777
00:36:57,965 --> 00:37:00,835
and putting on a nice sweater,
and you know,
778
00:37:00,868 --> 00:37:02,703
holding your partner's hand,
and taking your kid
779
00:37:02,737 --> 00:37:05,590
and buying them popcorn
and sitting together as a family.
780
00:37:05,623 --> 00:37:08,526
I just hope they go to watch it
in theaters,
781
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:10,177
because they're not going to regret it.
782
00:37:10,728 --> 00:37:14,148
JAMES: We're at the, the most
interesting stage of any film
783
00:37:14,181 --> 00:37:17,551
where you've done your best,
there's nothing more you can do
784
00:37:17,585 --> 00:37:19,303
that you haven't
thought of already.
785
00:37:19,337 --> 00:37:22,173
And it's going to go out there
to the world.
786
00:37:22,206 --> 00:37:23,257
You hand it over.
787
00:37:23,691 --> 00:37:26,527
And I don't know how people
are going to react.
788
00:37:26,928 --> 00:37:32,316
I know the film delivers,
but have tastes changed?
789
00:37:32,350 --> 00:37:34,335
You know, we're in
a post-pandemic world,
790
00:37:34,368 --> 00:37:36,070
we're in a current streaming world.
791
00:37:36,103 --> 00:37:37,888
You know, we're going
to have to see together.
792
00:37:37,922 --> 00:37:40,508
It's an anxious time,
but it's also a time of relief,
793
00:37:40,541 --> 00:37:42,593
because we've done it.