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[airplane roars]

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Good morning. It's 6:00 a.m. on 14th March

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and we are on the freedom flight.
[chuckles]

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We are leaving Canada

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and we are headed to Los Angeles.

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Shh!

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[Harry] Grandma's here.

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- Hi.
- [Harry] Hi, Grandma.

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[Harry] Pula's here
with a ball in her mouth.

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I wonder what would have happened
to us had we not got out when we did.

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Our location was exposed.
We knew our security was being pulled.

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Everyone in the world knew where we were.

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Archie, say hi.
We're about to go where Mommy's from.

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[Harry] So busy.

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I just knew the stress that they were
under. It felt like they were running.

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This is the current situation.

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Thanks to another amazing friend
who we've never met,

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but who believes in us and wants to help.

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[soft music playing]

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[emotive theme music playing]

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[emotive theme music finishes]

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[female interviewer] Tell me
how you first got in touch with Meghan.

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Um, you know, I'm not a, a royal watcher.

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I... I don't really
pay attention to a lot of stuff,

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but I saw something about her father.

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[reporter 1] <i>Posing for the paparazzi...</i>

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[reporter 2] <i>In exchange for photos,
he got cash...</i>

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[reporter 3] <i>This is tabloid fodder.</i>

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<i>They are going crazy
with this story this morning.</i>

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I found it to be hurtful
if he were my father.

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And I couldn't even imagine
this woman finding the man that she loved,

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the man of her dreams
and him being a prince,

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and then to walk into all of that madness

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and need the security of family,
and then have,

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you know,
your father do some horrible things.

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[male reporter]
<i>We just broke a big, fat story.</i>

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[female reporter] <i>It says it clearly.
Meghan's dad not going to the wedding.</i>

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When my life changed
and success started to come,

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family members became different people.

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And I know how hurtful
and how horrible it can be.

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[crowd cheering]

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[Tyler] I immediately empathized with her.

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This was before the wedding.
And I sent her a note,

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just praying for her
just to be able to move through it

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and hold on, and let her know
that everything in her life

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had prepared her for this moment,
or so I thought.

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- [crowd cheering]
- [poignant piano music playing]

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[Meghan] That's where Tyler came into
the picture. I'd never met him before.

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He sent me a letter before the wedding
just saying he was praying for me.

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And that if I ever need anything,
he would be there.

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[bell chimes]

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[Meghan] Months and months
and months went by.

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[Meghan whispering] Okay. Go on.

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[Meghan] And then one day,
when we were in Canada, I had called him.

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Finally, after years at that point,
first time we ever spoke...

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and I was just a wreck,
I was just crying and crying.

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Sometimes it's easier to just open up
to someone who knows nothing at all.

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And that was that moment
with me and Tyler.

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I could hear the fear.

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It was palpable. I mean, I could hear it.

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So I asked her, what was she afraid of?

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And she took a deep breath and she started
listing the things, "I'm afraid of..."

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And I said to her,
"Every one of your fears are valid."

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You know, the most that I knew
about the royal family

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was around Princess Diana's death.

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[man] Get down.

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[man] No.

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[photographer] One without
the tennis racket?

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- [Diana] No.
- [photographer] Please.

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[Tyler] There's a moment I'll never forget
where she's walking through the airport

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and she has a tennis racket
in front of her face

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and she's trying to get away
from the press, and they're all over her.

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And I realized that,
after the marriage ended,

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she was thrown to the wolves.

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[indistinct chatter]

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- [Princess Diana] Out. Out.
- [security man] Out, out. Out.

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- Out. Out. O-U-T, out.
- [photographer] Have a nice trip, ma'am.

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So to tell Meghan
that I felt her feelings were valid hurt.

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I didn't want to have to say that to her.
I didn't want her to feel that.

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But I didn't want to lie to her.

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[soft music playing]

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[Tyler] She was afraid
of them destroying her, or going crazy,

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or them making her think she was crazy.

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[woman 1] <i>British public opinion
is that it's all Meghan's fault.</i>

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- [woman 2] <i>She's a controlling woman.
- </i>[man] <i>The tabloids have turned.</i>

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[Tyler] I saw my mother
be abused for years.

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I knew the symptoms.
I knew what it was like.

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Everyone's like, "Tyler, how dare you
compare this to the abuse of your mother?"

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This woman was abused. And so was he.

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[woman 1] <i>They're trying
to upset everybody.</i>

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[man 1] <i>The Queen will be feeling
very let down and very angry.</i>

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- [woman 2] <i>...blindsided...</i>
- [man 2] <i>No idea the statement was coming.</i>

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[Tyler] To use the institution to try
and do all the things a batterer would do,

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like, "We're gonna cut off the money.
We're gonna not leave you security."

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"We're gonna do all those things
to make you comply and come back."

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And for the both of them
to have the wherewithal to say,

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"I don't give a damn if it's the palace.
I'm out of here," I applauded that.

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We stayed in touch,
and when we needed to go, he said,

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"What can we do to make it easier?
How can I help you?"

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[soft piano music playing]

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[Harry] So this was like
a week before COVID.

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And we'd be stuck at this house

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where everyone in the world knew
where we were. Unprotected, no security.

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[Tyler] They just wanted to be free.

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They wanted to be free
to love and be happy.

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They didn't... They did not have a plan.

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Everyone's like, "Oh, there's this..."
There was no plan.

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[Meghan] He's like, "My house is safe.
I'll make sure you have security."

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"Take your time."

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I was like, "If we could stay for a week,
then we can find somewhere we can live."

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He's like, "You're not gonna stay a week.
You're gonna stay as long as you need."

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"I'm gonna get you there safely."

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"And I'm gonna keep you there safely
until you have somewhere to go."

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For the first six weeks that we were here,
we were able to walk around like this.

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- Yeah.
- [Harry] The two of us would be up here.

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- Archie, sort of walking along here.
- [Tyler] Yeah.

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The dogs running around.

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[Tyler] You hadn't seen the house.

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[Harry] We only saw you filming
from the gate up to your door

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and seeing the big fountain there.

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- We're like, "That'll do." Just like...
- [Tyler laughs]

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[Tyler] What if I had horrible taste
and a big, round bed with stripper poles?

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It wouldn't have...
It wouldn't have mattered.

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We were so...
We were desperate to find someone...

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- Desperate to be somewhere for...
- [Tyler] Yeah.

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- You know, a long...
- [Tyler] To settle.

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We had... We had... We had, um...
We had 13 suitcases, I remember.

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You said, "Stay as long as you need to."
We're like, "Maybe we just stay forever."

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- [Meghan] Good boy, Guy.
- [Guy panting]

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[soft piano music plays]

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[Meghan] So we finally get
a little slice of freedom.

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[Meghan laughs] How you feeling, my love?

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Will you go long ways?

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- I think it's better.
- [Meghan] Ever the director.

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[Harry] It was bliss.
Because no one knew we were there.

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[Meghan] I spy our security guy.

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- Where is he?
- [Harry] Matt's hiding in the bush.

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- [Meghan] Do you see? He's right there.
- [dog panting]

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Look at it.
It's amazing we found this place.

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[Harry] Guy!

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[Meghan] It's secret,
and so at least during COVID-19,

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we can take the dogs for a walk

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and have a little slice of normal life.

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Come on! Come on.

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[Meghan] Let's get back home to Archie.

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And then we've been... [laughs]

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[dogs panting]

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My family.

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[baby laughing]

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[Meghan] Hey!

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For me, it didn't matter
where they landed, you know. I...

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I just wanted them to be happy,
and so that I could be with them.

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- [Meghan squeals]
- [Archie laughs]

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And obviously not having to take any
long flights made a heck of a difference.

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[Archie squeals]

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[Meghan] Where are we walking?

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[Meghan] Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay.

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Archie took
his very first steps right here.

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- I mean, this house was...
- Here.

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Right here.

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- [Harry] What's going on, my love?
- [Meghan chuckles]

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We are making this balloon arch
for Archie's first birthday...

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- [Harry] It doesn't look like an arch.
- It'll get there.

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- [Harry] Will it?
- We have to blow all these up.

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- [Harry] Hey!
- And use these.

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And... follow the instructions.

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[Harry] Great.

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[blows raspberry]

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[poignant piano music playing]

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[Harry] We were there for six weeks.
No one knew.

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My family still thought I was in Canada.

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Every day, I would look on the...
Google. "Nope, they don't know yet!"

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We talked and they'd laugh, and they were
doing so well. They'd send me videos.

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[Meghan] Our son turned one today.

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- And it's beautiful out.
- It's gorgeous out.

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[Meghan] And it's not our home.
But we're grateful.

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But there's a world
in which it could be our home.

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[both laughing]

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[female reporter]
<i>Tyler Perry joins us now from Atlanta.</i>

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It's been widely reported

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that Meghan and Harry are living
at your place in Los Angeles.

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Can you tell us how they're doing?

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- You speak English?
- I'm sorry.

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I think I just lost...
I just lost you. I just lost you, Gayle.

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I'm sorry. We have a bad,
really bad connection.

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So, here we are,
two days after Archie's birthday,

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uh, and a day after the <i>Mail...</i>

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And a day after the <i>Mail, </i>um,

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once again pinpointed our location
and put it on their website.

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[mouse clicking]

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[Harry] It was six weeks into us
being in Canada that they found out,

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and it was six weeks to us being
in Tyler's house that they found out.

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[Harry] Anyway, let me
just show you what we're having to now do.

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And these large poles are basically
the construction of a fence

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to stop paparazzi from taking photographs
from three, four hundred meters away.

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And as ridiculous
and as absurd as this is,

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you kind of have to laugh about it,
because it is madness.

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[tense music playing]

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[Harry whispering]
It's almost five in the morning.

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Archie's waking up because of this.

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[Meghan] Oh my God. They're just circling.

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What is wrong with these people?

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[Tyler] I've been
in that house for many, many years,

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and across the canyon
are all these other celebrities,

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and no one had seen an assault like this.

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[Meghan] Haz, is my mom
outside with Archie?

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[Tyler] With helicopters 24/7.

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- [Harry] The second one today.
- [Tyler] Drones flying over it.

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We would go up every day,
the chain link on the fence would be cut

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and people would sneak in
onto my property.

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I had to put all the cameras up
on the hill there.

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Had to plant more trees, all just...
Just... It was just... It was crazy.

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[Harry] What are you doing?

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I am writing more things, um...

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to battle the <i>Mail.</i>

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And their insanity.

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[tense music continues]

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[Meghan] This entire case
against Associated Newspapers

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which has the <i>Mail </i>and the <i>Mail Online,</i>
it was about a letter I wrote to my dad.

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[wistful music playing]

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The <i>Mail </i>published it.
They know that it's unlawful to do so.

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That's all this is about.
Just apologize... and don't do it again.

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It's really that simple.

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But instead it's like, "Or..."

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[clicks tongue]

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"...let's make a fortune."

227
00:13:56,126 --> 00:14:00,214
"Let's create an entire tab
on our homepage with her name..."

228
00:14:00,297 --> 00:14:01,340
[sad music playing]

229
00:14:01,423 --> 00:14:04,176
"...and just run constant stuff
on this litigation,

230
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and twist and turn things to create
an implant with members of the public."

231
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They're saying this was
all part of my strategy and tactic

232
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to have a better reputation.

233
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[Meghan] Then the defense says,
"We'd like disclosure from you."

234
00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:21,819
"We need to access
your email and your phone

235
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for this case, based on these terms,"

236
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"I love you."

237
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"Archie."

238
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"Kate."

239
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"William."

240
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- "Africa."
- "Africa."

241
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Sorry, what? What does
that have to do with this lawsuit?

242
00:14:42,339 --> 00:14:45,050
[Harry] My darling wife has just been sent
the skeleton argument

243
00:14:45,134 --> 00:14:49,013
of the ridiculousness of the <i>Mail </i>case.

244
00:14:49,096 --> 00:14:52,558
[Meghan] Archie wasn't even born when you
published the letter I wrote to my dad.

245
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- They are making a fortune off of us.
- [Harry] The press will never settle.

246
00:14:57,146 --> 00:15:01,692
They will always push,
because they will use a privacy litigation

247
00:15:01,775 --> 00:15:04,236
to further invade your privacy,
like they did with my wife.

248
00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,529
But my mum always said,

249
00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:07,948
"If they're writing crap about you
in the tabloids,

250
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you're probably doing the right thing."

251
00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:15,122
So I've always felt as though
this was a fight worth fighting for.

252
00:15:15,205 --> 00:15:19,460
[tense music playing]

253
00:15:19,543 --> 00:15:22,588
[Jenny] The tabloids pretty much
run the argument that,

254
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if you're in the public eye,
you've given up your rights to privacy.

255
00:15:27,468 --> 00:15:31,972
In this case, the <i>Mail on Sunday</i>
ran the whole kitchen sink defense.

256
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They threw everything in.

257
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Things like, "Um, Meghan's not entitled
to any privacy,

258
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,897
because she's a member
of the royal family."

259
00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:41,740
"If she didn't want us
to publish her letter,

260
00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:43,567
she should have been nicer to her father."

261
00:15:45,152 --> 00:15:46,278
How many people...

262
00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:51,742
[Jenny] Meghan and I would be texting
at 1 a.m. or 3 a.m. her time.

263
00:15:51,825 --> 00:15:55,287
She'd be awake, unable to sleep,

264
00:15:55,371 --> 00:15:58,290
thinking about this case,
and the wider issues,

265
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and the toll it was taking.

266
00:16:01,126 --> 00:16:04,171
[reporter 1] <i>The couple's war
with the tabloids now escalating.</i>

267
00:16:04,254 --> 00:16:07,549
[reporter 2] <i>Harry and Meghan are going
to have to give up more intimate details</i>

268
00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:10,928
<i>to prove their case, and therefore,
it does seem a bit self-defeating.</i>

269
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[Jenny] I knew the stress the latest
development was having on Meghan,

270
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and that was that the <i>Mail</i>
were going to argue that Meghan's friends

271
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had already spoken
about the letter to <i>People Magazine</i>

272
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and that Meghan had authorized
that interview, which she hadn't.

273
00:16:28,112 --> 00:16:31,407
[female presenter] <i>Meghan is going to deny
any involvement in interviews</i>

274
00:16:31,490 --> 00:16:33,701
<i>given by five of her friends
to </i>People Magazine.

275
00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:36,870
[Meghan] I don't know
how many pages the article itself was,

276
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but within it there were,

277
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I think, a few sentences

278
00:16:42,543 --> 00:16:45,587
that pertained to my father
and the fact that I'd reached out to him.

279
00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:48,465
We all knew that Meghan
had written her father a letter.

280
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I did not catch
in that <i>People Magazine</i> story

281
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that someone mentioned the letter.

282
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[female voice] <i>It was this </i>People <i>story
that referenced Thomas Markle's letter</i>

283
00:16:57,599 --> 00:17:00,227
<i>and prompted him
to share it with the </i>Mail on Sunday.

284
00:17:01,145 --> 00:17:05,607
You even do something in total love,
and that is for good,

285
00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:08,318
and they find one piece,

286
00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:12,656
and then it becomes
this whole other thing.

287
00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:14,450
They ran the false claim

288
00:17:14,533 --> 00:17:18,162
that Meghan had authorized
this interview with <i>People Magazine</i>.

289
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So the argument was she had
therefore given up all rights,

290
00:17:21,957 --> 00:17:23,959
anything to do with the letter whatsoever.

291
00:17:25,377 --> 00:17:31,717
And Associated said all of her friends'
identities should be revealed

292
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as part of the case.

293
00:17:33,969 --> 00:17:35,763
[Meghan] I said, "Absolutely not."

294
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I just felt it was important
to protect them

295
00:17:39,767 --> 00:17:41,727
in the way
that they were trying to protect me.

296
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And that was right in the same week that
we moved into our home in Santa Barbara.

297
00:17:53,781 --> 00:17:57,242
[Abigail] I'm driving up like, "We're
gonna unpack. We're gonna get settled."

298
00:17:57,326 --> 00:18:02,247
And Meg is standing outside, waiting
for me, and I can tell something's off.

299
00:18:03,999 --> 00:18:06,039
She's showing me the home.
It's very mixed emotions,

300
00:18:06,085 --> 00:18:08,212
"Here's our new home," but she's like,

301
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"I'm having a lot of pain."

302
00:18:12,883 --> 00:18:17,262
She was holding Archie
and she just fell to the ground and...

303
00:18:19,223 --> 00:18:22,434
[exhales loudly, sniffling]

304
00:18:23,018 --> 00:18:26,230
I was pregnant, I really wasn't sleeping.

305
00:18:27,231 --> 00:18:28,440
And, um...

306
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The first morning that we woke up
in our new home is when I miscarried.

307
00:18:44,206 --> 00:18:48,293
[Harry] I believe my wife suffered a
miscarriage because of what the <i>Mail </i>did.

308
00:18:49,837 --> 00:18:51,171
I watched the whole thing.

309
00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:59,221
Now, do we absolutely know that the
miscarriage was created, caused by that?

310
00:18:59,304 --> 00:19:00,389
Course we don't.

311
00:19:00,472 --> 00:19:02,599
But bearing in mind
the stress that that caused,

312
00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,811
the lack of sleep,
and the timing of the pregnancy,

313
00:19:05,894 --> 00:19:07,229
how many weeks in she was,

314
00:19:08,522 --> 00:19:10,065
I can say, from what I saw,

315
00:19:10,732 --> 00:19:14,027
that miscarriage was created
by what they were trying to do to her.

316
00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:15,571
[sad music playing]

317
00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:18,574
[keyboard clicking]

318
00:19:29,585 --> 00:19:32,337
[Doria] I thought
she was brave and courageous.

319
00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:35,841
But that doesn't surprise me,
because she is brave and courageous.

320
00:19:39,386 --> 00:19:40,386
Yeah.

321
00:19:46,768 --> 00:19:51,982
[Meghan] When I reveal things
that are moments of vulnerability,

322
00:19:52,608 --> 00:19:56,153
when it comes to having a miscarriage
and maybe having felt ashamed about that,

323
00:19:56,236 --> 00:19:59,907
like, "It's okay. You're human.
It's okay to talk about that."

324
00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:04,703
And I could make the choice
to never talk about those things,

325
00:20:04,786 --> 00:20:06,747
or I could make the choice to say,

326
00:20:07,497 --> 00:20:09,541
"With all the bad that comes with this,

327
00:20:09,625 --> 00:20:11,835
the good is being able
to help other people."

328
00:20:11,919 --> 00:20:17,424
That's the point of life, right?
Is connection and community like that.

329
00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:23,726
[male presenter] <i>It really resonates
when you read about her in hospital</i>

330
00:20:23,805 --> 00:20:25,724
<i>with her husband, Prince Harry.</i>

331
00:20:25,807 --> 00:20:27,601
<i>Uh, she describes him as heartbroken,</i>

332
00:20:27,684 --> 00:20:32,022
<i>trying to think what she can ask him,
and she simply says, "Are you okay?"</i>

333
00:20:32,105 --> 00:20:35,025
[woman] <i>Everybody can relate
to that question, "Are you okay?"</i>

334
00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:37,361
And do we ask it
to each other often enough?

335
00:20:37,444 --> 00:20:40,322
[female presenter] <i>The piece
is also very much a rallying cry</i>

336
00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:43,659
<i>for people to support each other
during what she describes</i>

337
00:20:43,742 --> 00:20:47,537
<i>as "a year of loss
and pain for every one of us."</i>

338
00:20:47,621 --> 00:20:52,918
Buckingham Palace says it won't be
commenting on a deeply personal matter.

339
00:20:54,002 --> 00:20:56,004
[Harry] Archie, come say hi to the team.

340
00:20:56,755 --> 00:20:57,798
Say, "Hi, James."

341
00:20:57,881 --> 00:20:59,174
[Archie] Hi, James.

342
00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:01,343
- [Harry] "Hi, Michael."
- [Archie] Hi, Michael.

343
00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:04,096
- [Harry] And "Hi, Christine."
- [Archie] Hi, Christine.

344
00:21:04,179 --> 00:21:05,764
- [Meghan] Oh!
- [Harry laughing]

345
00:21:05,847 --> 00:21:08,058
- [Meghan] That's so good!
- [Harry] Good job.

346
00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:12,062
Uh, it's been... It's been...
It's been a busy week!

347
00:21:12,604 --> 00:21:13,772
[man] <i>It's been a week.</i>

348
00:21:13,855 --> 00:21:19,611
[Tim Burt] They wanted to continue
with their non-royal patronages

349
00:21:19,695 --> 00:21:22,864
and causes around mental health,

350
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:26,201
around the environment,
around gender equity.

351
00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,161
I love investing in female entrepreneurs,

352
00:21:28,245 --> 00:21:31,540
so this is the kind of stuff
I spend a lot of time looking at.

353
00:21:31,623 --> 00:21:36,211
[Tim Burt] Increasingly,
as the pandemic started to take hold,

354
00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:37,879
around vaccine equity.

355
00:21:38,422 --> 00:21:40,507
[soft piano music playing]

356
00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:42,759
[Harry] My wife and I believe...

357
00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:45,929
[crown cheering]

358
00:21:53,562 --> 00:21:54,813
[Harry laughs]

359
00:21:54,896 --> 00:21:57,816
My wife and I believe
that where you're born

360
00:21:57,899 --> 00:22:00,569
should not dictate
your ability to survive.

361
00:22:00,652 --> 00:22:02,821
[crowd cheering]

362
00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:08,243
[Tim Burt] And it was really
a kind of fact-finding exercise

363
00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:12,748
about the areas
that they could be activists around,

364
00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:16,668
and the areas
where they could convene groups together.

365
00:22:16,752 --> 00:22:18,253
We've partnered with the team here

366
00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:22,132
to create the NAACP
Archewell Digital Civil Rights Award.

367
00:22:22,215 --> 00:22:24,593
I mean, one of the things
that we've continued to say

368
00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:28,305
is if we're gonna have this glaring
microscope on us at all times,

369
00:22:28,388 --> 00:22:31,308
if people are looking at us,
then look at what we're looking at.

370
00:22:31,391 --> 00:22:34,978
The only wrong thing to say
is to say nothing.

371
00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:36,104
[soft music playing]

372
00:22:36,188 --> 00:22:42,861
Because... George Floyd's life mattered,
and Breonna Taylor's life mattered,

373
00:22:42,944 --> 00:22:47,449
and Philando Castile's life mattered,
and Tamir Rice's life mattered.

374
00:22:47,532 --> 00:22:48,575
[Meghan] Oh my gosh.

375
00:22:48,658 --> 00:22:50,827
- [car horn hoots]
- [crowd clamoring]

376
00:22:50,911 --> 00:22:53,246
[Meghan] And so did so many other people

377
00:22:53,330 --> 00:22:56,166
whose names we know
and whose names we do not know.

378
00:22:56,249 --> 00:23:00,253
[woman on TV] This is the police chief.
Have you ever heard that in your life?

379
00:23:00,337 --> 00:23:03,173
I know, sometimes people say,
"How many times do we need to rebuild?"

380
00:23:03,256 --> 00:23:05,467
Well, you know what?
We are going to rebuild

381
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,595
and rebuild and rebuild
until it is rebuilt.

382
00:23:08,678 --> 00:23:14,851
[Harry humming]

383
00:23:15,685 --> 00:23:18,939
<i>♪ Goodnight, sweetheart, goodnight ♪</i>

384
00:23:19,022 --> 00:23:20,774
[Meghan whispering indistinctly]

385
00:23:26,363 --> 00:23:27,239
[Archie babbles]

386
00:23:27,322 --> 00:23:30,325
[Meghan] What's Papa doing?
Are we getting oranges?

387
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,205
Are you... Yes.
Can you put them in the basket?

388
00:23:35,288 --> 00:23:38,291
Ready? Catch. Oh.

389
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,503
["Brand New Day" by Miriam Makeba playing]

390
00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:43,713
[Meghan] I know. There's Pula.

391
00:23:45,006 --> 00:23:49,636
- [Harry squeals]
- <i>♪ When all the dark clouds roll away ♪</i>

392
00:23:52,139 --> 00:23:55,308
<i>♪ And the sun begins to shine</i>... ♪

393
00:23:55,392 --> 00:23:56,226
No, let's go.

394
00:23:56,309 --> 00:23:59,062
[laughing]

395
00:23:59,146 --> 00:24:05,485
<i>♪ I see my freedom from across the way ♪</i>

396
00:24:07,028 --> 00:24:10,657
<i>♪ And it comes right in on time ♪</i>

397
00:24:11,408 --> 00:24:17,205
<i>♪ Well, it shines so bright
And it gives...</i> ♪

398
00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:19,916
[Doria] Nice try.
Are you trying to bunt the ball?

399
00:24:20,584 --> 00:24:23,712
<i>♪ And it comes right from the sky above... ♪</i>

400
00:24:23,795 --> 00:24:26,047
[Meghan] Hello. <i>Bonjour.</i> [laughs]

401
00:24:26,131 --> 00:24:29,342
<i>♪ Makes me feel so free ♪</i>

402
00:24:30,177 --> 00:24:34,473
<i>♪ Makes me feel like me, yeah... ♪</i>

403
00:24:34,556 --> 00:24:36,475
- [Meghan] We've gone rogue.
- We've gone rogue.

404
00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:37,893
[Meghan] See us come down here.

405
00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:41,563
We're gonna have the beach to ourself,
or there's gonna be, like, a filming set

406
00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:43,940
on the beach we've just walked to.

407
00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:45,192
[Harry laughing]

408
00:24:45,275 --> 00:24:46,359
He's so fun.

409
00:24:46,443 --> 00:24:50,113
<i>- ♪ And it seems like ♪
- ♪ Seems like ♪</i>

410
00:24:50,197 --> 00:24:52,699
<i>- ♪ Oh, yes, it feels like ♪
- ♪ Feels like ♪</i>

411
00:24:52,782 --> 00:24:56,620
<i>♪ A brand new day... ♪</i>

412
00:24:56,703 --> 00:24:58,747
[Harry] This is really cold. Woo!

413
00:24:59,623 --> 00:25:04,002
<i>♪ A brand new day, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪</i>

414
00:25:04,085 --> 00:25:07,130
<i>- ♪ Oh yeah ♪
- ♪ Yeah, yeah... ♪</i>

415
00:25:07,756 --> 00:25:10,175
- And also, we're pregnant.
- [Harry gasps]

416
00:25:12,135 --> 00:25:14,095
<i>♪ Double crossed...</i> ♪

417
00:25:14,804 --> 00:25:19,184
- Oh, my goodness. My love.
- <i>♪ With my hands behind my back ♪</i>

418
00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:23,897
<i>♪ I was long time hurt... ♪</i>

419
00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:26,399
[Harry] Beautiful. Our own beach.

420
00:25:26,483 --> 00:25:32,906
<i>♪ And thrown in the dirt
Shoved out on a railroad track</i>...<i> ♪</i>

421
00:25:32,989 --> 00:25:36,952
It was funny, because I'm talking
and they both look a little smirky.

422
00:25:37,035 --> 00:25:39,788
A little like, "Hm."
And I was like, "Something's..."

423
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:41,957
Like, they're smiling a bit too much.
It's a Zoom.

424
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,166
You know, "What's going on?"

425
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:47,379
And um, near the end of the Zoom,
you know, Meg stands up.

426
00:25:48,797 --> 00:25:52,300
<i>♪ But I stood and looked... ♪</i>

427
00:25:53,677 --> 00:25:55,971
[Misan] I just freak out. I freak out.

428
00:25:56,054 --> 00:25:58,765
Because I know what they've
been through to get to that place.

429
00:25:59,266 --> 00:26:01,393
And, uh, they're like, "It's gotta be you,

430
00:26:01,476 --> 00:26:04,771
helping us tell the world
that we have new life in our lives."

431
00:26:04,854 --> 00:26:09,109
<i>- ♪ And it seems like and it feels like ♪
- ♪ Seems like, feels like... ♪</i>

432
00:26:09,192 --> 00:26:11,820
[Misan] It felt,
at least I could do something

433
00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:15,156
to use my imagery
to almost protect them if I could.

434
00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:22,205
<i>- ♪ A brand new day, ooh ♪
- ♪ A brand new day, yeah ♪</i>

435
00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:25,083
<i>- ♪ A brand new day ♪
- ♪ A brand new day, yeah... ♪</i>

436
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:26,585
[Harry] Once we announced it,

437
00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:29,087
I got two messages
from two completely different people

438
00:26:29,170 --> 00:26:31,506
who sent me the front page

439
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:36,177
of Valentine's Day, 1984,

440
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:41,016
of my mother announcing
that she was pregnant with me.

441
00:26:42,517 --> 00:26:43,517
I was shocked.

442
00:26:45,395 --> 00:26:47,772
We had no idea. It was just a coincidence.

443
00:26:49,357 --> 00:26:50,734
Or maybe not a coincidence.

444
00:26:51,693 --> 00:26:54,654
[reporter] <i>On the heels of Harry
and Meghan's pregnancy announcement,</i>

445
00:26:54,738 --> 00:26:57,449
<i>the couple will now share
their story publicly,</i>

446
00:26:57,532 --> 00:27:01,578
<i>giving Oprah Winfrey their first interview
since they stepped away from...</i>

447
00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:05,624
[interviewer] Tell us about the thinking
about sitting with Oprah.

448
00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:10,337
Um, well, Oprah had
originally reached out to us

449
00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:12,964
through the communications director
at Kensington Palace.

450
00:27:13,048 --> 00:27:16,110
There was excitement. I remember that.
[laughing] And then I think we talked...

451
00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:18,887
Well, yeah, 'cause Oprah...
Oprah, to you, is like...

452
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,013
- It's Oprah!
- Yeah.

453
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:24,434
- <i>♪ Happy birthday, dear Meghan ♪</i>
- [Meghan] No way.

454
00:27:24,517 --> 00:27:27,729
- [man] <i>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪</i>
- [Meghan] Thank you.

455
00:27:28,897 --> 00:27:32,275
Yay! Yay!

456
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,404
The timing of when we would talk to her
just kept changing.

457
00:27:36,488 --> 00:27:39,908
[both laughing]

458
00:27:39,991 --> 00:27:42,345
- [Harry] We made it to the beach.
- We made it to the beach.

459
00:27:42,369 --> 00:27:43,929
[Harry] Doing what everybody else does.

460
00:27:44,704 --> 00:27:47,415
[Harry] We were here for a year.

461
00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:48,499
[chicken clucking]

462
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,126
We've got chickens!

463
00:27:51,086 --> 00:27:52,587
[Harry] Until we actually did it.

464
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:57,342
And sitting down with Oprah was a reaction
to what had happened that year.

465
00:27:57,425 --> 00:28:02,681
The more distance that came between us
having a smaller role with the institution

466
00:28:02,764 --> 00:28:05,475
and coming over here,
the more of a vacuum was being built.

467
00:28:05,558 --> 00:28:08,978
And people just genuinely
didn't understand why we left.

468
00:28:09,062 --> 00:28:12,315
We thought that was the beginning of
our year of transition, which it turns out

469
00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,275
was anything but a transition.

470
00:28:14,943 --> 00:28:16,778
It was just a beating. [clears throat]

471
00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:20,615
They are three of the most
recognizable people on the planet.

472
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:23,034
Oprah, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

473
00:28:23,118 --> 00:28:26,621
And they're now coming together for one
of the biggest interviews of the decade.

474
00:28:27,247 --> 00:28:30,625
[male presenter] <i>But before that sit-down
is set to premiere, Buckingham Palace,</i>

475
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:32,085
<i>in an unprecedented move,</i>

476
00:28:32,168 --> 00:28:36,297
<i>opened an investigation
into bullying allegations against Meghan.</i>

477
00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:39,092
The timing of the bullying story

478
00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:45,557
has even been admitted
by the journalist that wrote it

479
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,142
that it was done

480
00:28:48,226 --> 00:28:51,396
explicitly because of the Oprah interview.

481
00:28:51,479 --> 00:28:54,315
Harry and Meghan's spokesperson
tells us and <i>The Times</i> this,

482
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:58,236
"The Duchess is saddened
by this latest attack on her character,

483
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:01,990
particularly as someone who has been
the target of bullying herself

484
00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:03,992
and is deeply committed
to supporting those

485
00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:06,411
who have experienced pain and trauma."

486
00:29:06,494 --> 00:29:07,774
"Let's just call it what it is."

487
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:12,542
"A calculated smear campaign based on
misleading and harmful misinformation."

488
00:29:12,625 --> 00:29:17,547
You could tell... I was like, "Oh my gosh,
someone's panicking over there."

489
00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:22,385
[reporter] A long-simmering feud between
Harry and Meghan, and palace staff,

490
00:29:22,469 --> 00:29:25,180
people Princess Diana called
"the men in grey suits",

491
00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:29,100
is boiling over with this
explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey.

492
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:33,521
I can't think what my mum went through
all those years ago by herself.

493
00:29:34,856 --> 00:29:40,820
To see this institutional
gaslighting that happens is...

494
00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:42,822
It is extraordinary.

495
00:29:42,906 --> 00:29:46,743
Um, and that's why
everything that's happened to us

496
00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,078
was always gonna happen to us.

497
00:29:49,162 --> 00:29:52,874
Because if you speak truth to power,
that's how they respond.

498
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:57,796
[Oprah] <i>Tonight, for the first time,
they tell their story.</i>

499
00:29:58,463 --> 00:30:02,008
[Meghan] That interview, it was less
about setting the record straight

500
00:30:02,091 --> 00:30:06,513
than at least filling in the blanks
that other people were filling in for us.

501
00:30:06,596 --> 00:30:09,641
...and when you say,
"Was it what it looked like?"

502
00:30:10,350 --> 00:30:13,061
My understanding and my experience
of the past four years

503
00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:15,021
is it's nothing like what it looks like.

504
00:30:15,104 --> 00:30:19,192
Whatever we were creating and whatever
new path we were trying to forge,

505
00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:22,320
you couldn't really do that
without some clarity.

506
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:26,783
[Oprah] <i>So how does that work?
Were you told to keep silent?</i>

507
00:30:26,866 --> 00:30:29,285
<i>How were you told to handle tabloids?</i>

508
00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:34,666
Everyone in my world, um,
was given a very clear directive

509
00:30:34,749 --> 00:30:36,960
from the moment
the world knew Harry and I were dating

510
00:30:37,043 --> 00:30:38,336
to always say, "No comment."

511
00:30:38,419 --> 00:30:40,088
<i>- And we did.
- Mm-hm.</i>

512
00:30:40,171 --> 00:30:42,340
I did anything they told me to do.
Of course I did.

513
00:30:42,423 --> 00:30:46,052
Because it was also through the lens of,
"And we'll protect you."

514
00:30:46,594 --> 00:30:52,475
<i>[Oprah] There's a conversation
about how dark your baby is going to be?</i>

515
00:30:53,977 --> 00:30:57,438
That conversation
I am never going to share.

516
00:30:57,522 --> 00:31:03,403
[Oprah] You said in a podcast
that it became almost un-survivable.

517
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:10,243
And that struck me, because it sounds like
you were in some kind of mental trouble.

518
00:31:10,326 --> 00:31:11,953
What was actually going on?

519
00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:14,664
I would sit up at night,
and I was just like,

520
00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:17,750
"I don't understand
how all of this is being churned out."

521
00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:18,834
I wasn't seeing it,

522
00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:24,090
but it's almost worse when you feel it
through the expression of my mom

523
00:31:24,173 --> 00:31:26,551
or my friends,
or them calling me crying, just like,

524
00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:29,721
"Meg. They're not protecting you."

525
00:31:29,804 --> 00:31:35,810
And I realized that it was all happening
just because I was breathing,

526
00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:39,522
and I just didn't...
I just didn't want to be alive anymore.

527
00:31:40,899 --> 00:31:45,278
We didn't see it until the world saw it.
And it's interesting.

528
00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:53,745
I thought that me being very open about

529
00:31:55,538 --> 00:32:00,418
the depression that I experienced
and just how extreme that became...

530
00:32:00,501 --> 00:32:02,587
I thought that would be
the biggest takeaway.

531
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:06,090
[Oprah] <i>Thank you both
for trusting me to share your story.</i>

532
00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:08,343
[Meghan] <i>Thank you
for giving us the space to do it.</i>

533
00:32:08,426 --> 00:32:09,469
[Harry] <i>Thank you.</i>

534
00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:12,305
[Meghan laughing]

535
00:32:12,388 --> 00:32:15,016
Oh my God. [groans]

536
00:32:15,099 --> 00:32:19,354
[Meghan] But it was entirely eclipsed
by the conversation surrounding race.

537
00:32:25,985 --> 00:32:30,156
[bird tweets]

538
00:32:41,501 --> 00:32:43,711
[phone ringing]

539
00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:44,795
[Meghan] Hey, Mommy.

540
00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:45,997
[Doria] <i>Hey, what's going on?</i>

541
00:32:46,047 --> 00:32:48,127
[Meghan] Not much.
I saw I missed you. Where are you?

542
00:32:48,174 --> 00:32:51,177
[Doria] <i>I just finished walking...
Finishing walking the dog.</i>

543
00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:55,348
Nice. Has it been... Has it been noisy
around your house? Is anyone there?

544
00:32:55,431 --> 00:32:57,684
- [Doria] <i>No. Actually, no.</i>
- Good. Good.

545
00:32:57,767 --> 00:33:01,104
[Doria] <i>Which has been nice.
Yeah, I feel proud.</i>

546
00:33:01,187 --> 00:33:03,564
<i>You certainly never deserved any of this.</i>

547
00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:07,735
<i>I mean, I've been getting tons of texts
about how people are so</i>

548
00:33:08,861 --> 00:33:12,365
<i>in support of you and how you were able
to carry yourself so well.</i>

549
00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:14,701
- [Meghan] Thank you.
- [Doria] <i>Yeah.</i>

550
00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:16,285
<i>Keep your big girl panties on.</i>

551
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:18,079
[Meghan] Thank you. I will.

552
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:20,443
- [Doria] <i>Okay, I love you.</i>
- The biggest. I love you too.

553
00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:21,833
- [Doria] <i>Bye.</i>
- [Meghan] Bye.

554
00:33:26,087 --> 00:33:28,381
- [Meghan] Beyoncé just texted.
- [Harry gasps]

555
00:33:28,464 --> 00:33:30,341
[Meghan] Really... [chuckles]

556
00:33:30,425 --> 00:33:32,260
- Shut up.
- [Meghan] Just checking in.

557
00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:34,887
Just checking in. Just casual.

558
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:38,141
I still can't believe...
I still can't believe she knows who I am.

559
00:33:39,976 --> 00:33:41,269
Go and call her.

560
00:33:41,352 --> 00:33:45,898
No, it's okay. She said
she wants me to feel safe and protected.

561
00:33:45,982 --> 00:33:49,193
She admires and respects
my bravery and vulnerability

562
00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:51,404
and thinks I was selected
to break generational curses

563
00:33:51,487 --> 00:33:52,739
that need to be healed.

564
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,241
Hmm.

565
00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:56,324
That's well said.

566
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:02,139
[reporter 1] Have you spoken
to your brother since the interview?

567
00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:04,625
[Prince William] I haven't
spoken with him yet, but I will do.

568
00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:08,588
[reporter] And can you let me know,
is the royal family a racist family, sir?

569
00:34:09,088 --> 00:34:10,568
[Prince William] We're very much not.

570
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:13,676
[reporter 2] Sir, what did you think
of the interview?

571
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,470
[man] Oh. Thank you very much.

572
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:17,660
[Tyler] When I watched, I thought...

573
00:34:19,390 --> 00:34:21,392
"There's so much more
she could have said."

574
00:34:22,018 --> 00:34:27,815
But because she's such a classy,
elegant woman, she didn't.

575
00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:29,442
- [Tyler] <i>Hey.</i>
- Hi.

576
00:34:30,401 --> 00:34:33,361
[Tyler] <i>The Palace issued a statement,
I understand, but I haven't read it.</i>

577
00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:34,947
[Meghan] Yeah, let me pull it up.

578
00:34:39,952 --> 00:34:40,870
The following statement

579
00:34:40,953 --> 00:34:43,831
issued by Buckingham Palace
on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen.

580
00:34:44,332 --> 00:34:47,293
"The whole family is saddened
to learn the full extent

581
00:34:47,376 --> 00:34:50,713
of how challenging the last few years
have been for Harry and Meghan."

582
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:55,218
"The issues raised, particularly
that of race, are concerning."

583
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,346
"While some recollections may vary,

584
00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:02,683
they are taken very seriously and will be
addressed by the family privately."

585
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:06,604
"Harry, Meghan and Archie
will always be much-loved family members."

586
00:35:08,940 --> 00:35:10,108
What am I looking at?

587
00:35:13,194 --> 00:35:14,695
- Wow.
- [Harry sniffling]

588
00:35:15,696 --> 00:35:18,366
H just got a text...
H just got a text from his brother.

589
00:35:19,575 --> 00:35:21,828
[Tyler] <i>Oh. Yeah. Okay. You guys do that.</i>

590
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:23,913
All right, I'll talk to you later on.
Thank you.

591
00:35:23,996 --> 00:35:26,100
[Tyler] I<i>'ll see you guys...</i>
- We'll see you on Friday.

592
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:28,459
Okay, bye. Thank you, thank you. Bye.

593
00:35:29,877 --> 00:35:31,212
I wish I knew what to do.

594
00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:35,091
I know. Let's take a breather.
Get some air and then decide.

595
00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:37,051
Um...

596
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,313
- [guitar music playing]
- [Harry humming]

597
00:35:54,026 --> 00:35:59,031
I can put them in um, separate little bags
so we can divide and conquer.

598
00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:02,076
Hey, Grandma. Have we decided
what the course is gonna be?

599
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,329
[Meghan] I think what makes the most sense
is to have them start right here.

600
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:06,932
- [Harry] By the bridge?
- [Meghan] Yep.

601
00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:09,226
- [Harry] So down, down that side...
- Let's go outside and...

602
00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:12,044
Back across the bridge, up the side
of the stream to this bridge here.

603
00:36:12,128 --> 00:36:13,488
- [Meghan] Mm-hm.
- Great. Love it.

604
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,923
Done, easy. That's why we're married.

605
00:36:18,509 --> 00:36:19,509
All for that?

606
00:36:20,219 --> 00:36:21,929
The simplicity, really.

607
00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:23,014
[Meghan giggles]

608
00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:27,727
[Harry] Come on, family. Let's go.

609
00:36:50,708 --> 00:36:56,505
[melancholic music playing]

610
00:37:11,145 --> 00:37:15,900
[indistinct voices on phone]

611
00:37:15,983 --> 00:37:19,028
My grandfather always cruised around
in a black taxi in London.

612
00:37:19,111 --> 00:37:21,489
So all of the black taxis have...

613
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:28,329
lined up all the way down the Mall
outside Buckingham Palace.

614
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,539
I don't know if you can see it.

615
00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:35,378
[man 1] Have a look at this.
This is outside the palace now.

616
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:40,132
[cabby] Every single black cab in London,
looks like they're paying their respects.

617
00:37:40,716 --> 00:37:43,427
Who'd have thought
about that, eh? Incredible.

618
00:37:48,516 --> 00:37:50,601
[cabby] <i>Unbelievable, innit? Look, as far...</i>

619
00:37:50,685 --> 00:37:51,727
That's nice.

620
00:37:52,853 --> 00:37:54,855
Oh my God. How is it ten to twelve?

621
00:37:55,398 --> 00:37:57,692
- [Harry groans]
- Um...

622
00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:03,614
Quickly... I looked at the, um, UK website

623
00:38:03,698 --> 00:38:06,826
about the access to be able
to have a shorter quarantine period.

624
00:38:06,909 --> 00:38:07,743
Yeah.

625
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:12,206
The earliest you can do the test
upon landing is five days after you land.

626
00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:15,626
- So you have to leave tomorrow.
- Okay.

627
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:16,877
And get tested Friday.

628
00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:18,796
- Can I get out tomorrow?
- Yeah.

629
00:38:18,879 --> 00:38:19,714
Okay.

630
00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:22,883
Same flight, Maddie's
on the phone with American Airlines now.

631
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:26,720
[door shuts]

632
00:38:29,432 --> 00:38:31,684
[car engine starts]

633
00:38:36,939 --> 00:38:41,152
[wistful music playing]

634
00:38:54,665 --> 00:38:58,377
[Harry] My grandfather was a man
of service, honor, and great humor.

635
00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,881
He will be remembered as the
longest reigning consort to the monarch,

636
00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:05,885
a decorated serviceman,
a prince, and a duke.

637
00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:09,847
But to me, he was my grandpa.

638
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:15,227
Master of the barbecue, legend of banter,
and cheeky right till the end.

639
00:39:17,980 --> 00:39:21,567
[Nicky] Harry's respect
for his grandfather

640
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:23,778
was monumentally deep,

641
00:39:23,861 --> 00:39:30,201
and I think a lot of the characteristics
that, you know, I love in Harry

642
00:39:30,284 --> 00:39:33,037
are slightly grandfather related.

643
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,373
You know,
that ability to put people at ease,

644
00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:38,042
to be fun and to not be stiff and serious,

645
00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:39,460
I think come from him.

646
00:39:43,881 --> 00:39:48,928
- I know the admiration was huge.
- [wistful music continues]

647
00:39:56,685 --> 00:39:59,313
To be walking behind the coffin again

648
00:40:00,022 --> 00:40:03,275
must have brought up
some other stuff as well.

649
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:07,363
I don't have the, uh, qualifications to
unpick that, but it must have been a lot.

650
00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:22,211
[Harry] I was actually
really happy for my grandfather.

651
00:40:25,297 --> 00:40:28,467
He went quietly.
He went peacefully. He went happily.

652
00:40:35,474 --> 00:40:37,309
[interviewer] Tell me about going back.

653
00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:39,769
What was that like?

654
00:40:40,604 --> 00:40:43,107
[Harry] Um, it was hard.

655
00:40:43,899 --> 00:40:47,611
Especially spending time, having
chats with my brother and my father,

656
00:40:47,695 --> 00:40:50,239
who just, you know, were very much,

657
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,702
um, focused on the same
misinterpretation of the whole situation.

658
00:40:54,785 --> 00:40:57,496
So neither... None of us really wanted
to have to talk about it

659
00:40:57,580 --> 00:40:59,957
at my grandfather's funeral, but we did.

660
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,461
Um, and, you know,
I've had to make peace with the fact

661
00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:06,338
that we're probably
never gonna get genuine accountability

662
00:41:06,422 --> 00:41:07,590
or a genuine apology.

663
00:41:08,132 --> 00:41:10,676
You know, my wife and I, we're...
We're moving on.

664
00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:14,346
We're focused on the...
On what's coming next.

665
00:41:20,227 --> 00:41:21,227
[Meghan chuckles]

666
00:41:29,111 --> 00:41:30,111
[baby cooing]

667
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:34,922
- [Meghan] It's okay.
- [Harry] It's okay.

668
00:41:34,992 --> 00:41:38,787
[Meghan] Here we go.
You ready to eat? Let's have some milk.

669
00:41:39,538 --> 00:41:40,581
Oh.

670
00:41:40,664 --> 00:41:41,665
[baby whimpering]

671
00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:44,168
[Meghan] Oh.

672
00:41:44,251 --> 00:41:49,298
[soft music plays]

673
00:41:49,381 --> 00:41:50,466
[Meghan] Hi, Lili.

674
00:42:02,102 --> 00:42:06,774
[Meghan] There was something that felt
so complete once we had Lilibet.

675
00:42:14,281 --> 00:42:17,660
Everyone just really respected
that we've been through so much

676
00:42:17,743 --> 00:42:20,371
and that we, like any parent,

677
00:42:20,454 --> 00:42:23,624
deserve to just welcome their child
into the world peacefully,

678
00:42:23,707 --> 00:42:27,169
and have that time as a family
to nurture and cocoon.

679
00:42:28,587 --> 00:42:32,967
Which we did,
with the addition of our little toddler.

680
00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:37,137
[Meghan] Flowers for Mommy?
Thank you. Can I have a kiss?

681
00:42:37,221 --> 00:42:38,347
[kissing sound]

682
00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:41,892
[Harry] I think at the moment,
I see a lot of my wife in Archie.

683
00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:45,145
- [Harry] I see a lot of my mum in Lili.
- Mm.

684
00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:49,066
She's very Spencer-like.
She's got the same blue eyes.

685
00:42:49,149 --> 00:42:50,693
Blue, blue, blue eyes.

686
00:42:50,776 --> 00:42:54,405
Sort of like a... golden-reddish hair.

687
00:42:54,488 --> 00:42:55,573
Mm-hmm.

688
00:43:00,244 --> 00:43:02,955
[Meghan] Oh boy! Are you walking?

689
00:43:03,038 --> 00:43:04,081
[Meghan laughing] Okay.

690
00:43:04,164 --> 00:43:06,764
[Tyler] We'll call, we'll chat,
and we'll talk about silly things.

691
00:43:06,792 --> 00:43:09,962
And they were pretty serious on the phone.
I go, "Okay, what's going on?"

692
00:43:10,045 --> 00:43:15,092
They said, "Well, we'd like for you
to be Lili's godfather." I go, "Whoa."

693
00:43:16,302 --> 00:43:18,012
I had to take a minute to take that in.

694
00:43:18,095 --> 00:43:20,431
And I thought,

695
00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:22,725
"I'd be honored.
I'd absolutely be honored."

696
00:43:23,767 --> 00:43:26,478
And I got off the phone,
took it all in and then called them back.

697
00:43:26,562 --> 00:43:28,564
I go, "Uh, hold on a second."

698
00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:34,361
"Does this mean we got to go over there
and do all of that in the church with them

699
00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:36,572
and figure all that out?
I don't want to do that."

700
00:43:36,655 --> 00:43:39,908
"Maybe we can do a little private ceremony
here and let that be that,

701
00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:42,911
and if you have to do it there,
then that's okay."

702
00:43:44,246 --> 00:43:48,375
<i>♪ Like a diamond in the sky ♪</i>

703
00:43:48,459 --> 00:43:52,379
<i>♪ Twinkle, twinkle little star ♪</i>

704
00:43:52,463 --> 00:43:55,233
<i>- ♪ How I wonder what you are ♪</i>
- [Serena] They're creating their family<i>.</i>

705
00:43:55,257 --> 00:44:00,471
And, um... [chuckles]
...friends can be family too.

706
00:44:00,554 --> 00:44:02,598
[cheering]

707
00:44:02,681 --> 00:44:04,808
Parvati! Parvati!

708
00:44:04,892 --> 00:44:06,018
Josie!

709
00:44:06,101 --> 00:44:09,271
[Serena] They can start something
fresh and new and hope that one day

710
00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:15,569
that family on both ends will be able
to understand that this is truly love.

711
00:44:15,653 --> 00:44:19,573
[all] <i>♪ Happy birthday to you ♪</i>

712
00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:23,077
Archie, do you want to come help
blow out the candles? Come help.

713
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:23,994
[woman] Yay!

714
00:44:24,078 --> 00:44:26,997
Oh my... Yeah!

715
00:44:27,081 --> 00:44:29,124
- [soft music playing]
- [Harry humming]

716
00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:30,542
[Harry] Eugenie's in town.

717
00:44:32,294 --> 00:44:34,588
[Harry laughing] Where are we?

718
00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:36,900
- [Eugenie] At the Superbowl!
- [Harry] At the Superbowl!

719
00:44:36,924 --> 00:44:39,593
[Harry] You gotta grab him, Eugenie.
You gotta grab him!

720
00:44:40,094 --> 00:44:41,970
[Harry yells]

721
00:44:42,971 --> 00:44:45,849
[Harry] Trousers are falling down.
[laughing]

722
00:44:47,226 --> 00:44:48,394
Good job.

723
00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:50,604
[bird cawing]

724
00:44:51,271 --> 00:44:54,274
[Harry] Just seeing Archie running
across the lawn and this big smile...

725
00:44:54,358 --> 00:44:56,360
This is the world that he knows.

726
00:44:56,443 --> 00:44:58,946
He spent his first five months in Windsor.
That was it.

727
00:44:59,446 --> 00:45:01,573
This is home to him. This is home to Lili.

728
00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:03,200
"I need to walk away!"

729
00:45:04,284 --> 00:45:05,411
And this is our home.

730
00:45:06,537 --> 00:45:07,871
[laughing]

731
00:45:07,955 --> 00:45:09,873
<i>♪ Riding down the promenade ♪</i>

732
00:45:09,957 --> 00:45:13,085
[Harry] I get to do things with our kids
I would never be able to do in the UK.

733
00:45:13,585 --> 00:45:16,422
- [Meghan] Woo!
- [dog barking]

734
00:45:17,423 --> 00:45:20,050
[Meghan laughing]

735
00:45:32,771 --> 00:45:35,441
He's deep in some sort of legal email,
I can tell.

736
00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:41,905
[Jenny] Meghan's case
against Associated Newspapers

737
00:45:41,989 --> 00:45:44,241
had gone on several years.

738
00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:49,037
At the beginning of 2021, the judge said,

739
00:45:49,121 --> 00:45:51,582
"We don't need
to have a trial or disclosure."

740
00:45:51,665 --> 00:45:55,627
"I'm deciding the case now.
I'm calling it in Meghan's favor."

741
00:45:56,211 --> 00:45:59,590
Then, uh, Associated predictably appealed.

742
00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:03,761
It was all, we thought, just
an opportunity to generate more clickbait.

743
00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,930
When all of this started,
I had no children.

744
00:46:07,931 --> 00:46:12,478
And now I have birthed two and lost one.
And it's still going on.

745
00:46:15,481 --> 00:46:18,358
[Jenny] When we were
just about to go to the Court of Appeal,

746
00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:22,488
a senior member
of the Duke of Cambridge's team

747
00:46:22,571 --> 00:46:26,617
came forward to give this witness
statement which wasn't required.

748
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:29,244
[soft piano music playing]

749
00:46:29,328 --> 00:46:35,125
[Jenny] And sadly, there's just no way
he could have done that without, um,

750
00:46:35,209 --> 00:46:36,877
the authority of his bosses.

751
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,922
The <i>Mail on Sunday </i>was arguing
all the way through this

752
00:46:40,005 --> 00:46:42,341
that actually this letter wasn't private

753
00:46:42,424 --> 00:46:46,261
because she shared a draft
with her former press secretary

754
00:46:46,345 --> 00:46:48,764
and she shared some
text messages with him.

755
00:46:48,847 --> 00:46:51,600
Even during the course
of those text messages, Meghan said,

756
00:46:51,683 --> 00:46:55,479
"Obviously everything I have drafted
is with the understanding it could leak."

757
00:46:56,104 --> 00:46:58,291
- [Harry] Let me deal with it.
- How do we deal with that?

758
00:46:58,315 --> 00:47:00,108
Like, how on earth... Like...

759
00:47:00,192 --> 00:47:02,236
[woman] He works for his brother. Like...

760
00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:03,946
[Meghan] But that... I know.

761
00:47:04,571 --> 00:47:08,325
- Like that... Like, I... It's your brother.
- [Harry] Yep.

762
00:47:08,408 --> 00:47:11,787
I'm not gonna say anything
about your brother, but it's so obvious.

763
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:13,681
- It's like, all...
- [Harry] It's even more...

764
00:47:13,705 --> 00:47:15,916
It's even more obvious
that they'll try and cover it up.

765
00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:19,753
Again, "Jason, the former aide
of Meghan and Harry," as opposed to...

766
00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:23,423
[woman] Why are we talking about him
as her former aide

767
00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:25,427
and not as the person
who works for your brother?

768
00:47:25,509 --> 00:47:27,469
That's why I'm now living
in a different country.

769
00:47:27,970 --> 00:47:30,097
Because all the comms teams basically like

770
00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,392
try to outdo each other, but this is the...

771
00:47:33,475 --> 00:47:34,643
This is the contract.

772
00:47:34,726 --> 00:47:37,896
The symbiotic relationship
between the two institutions working

773
00:47:38,647 --> 00:47:40,065
the best that they can.

774
00:47:40,148 --> 00:47:43,777
[instrumental music playing]

775
00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:51,201
[Meghan] Okay. Thank you.

776
00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:58,625
[reporter 1] <i>Is Meghan
manipulating the media?</i>

777
00:47:58,709 --> 00:48:00,812
[reporter 2] <i>Thank you
for your text messages as well.</i>

778
00:48:00,836 --> 00:48:03,255
<i>ER says, "Of course Meghan's
manipulating the media."</i>

779
00:48:03,338 --> 00:48:05,674
"<i>Good for her, I say.
They manipulate us enough."</i>

780
00:48:05,757 --> 00:48:08,051
<i>Chris said she likes
to control the narrative...</i>

781
00:48:10,637 --> 00:48:11,722
[Meghan] Thank you.

782
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,435
[man] I just wanted to ask you,
you know, about the appeal,

783
00:48:16,518 --> 00:48:18,478
and how you feel about it,

784
00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:22,357
and also just how you feel
about these issues of privacy.

785
00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:25,241
It's an arduous process. But it's just me
standing up for what's right.

786
00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:28,071
Which I think is important
across the board,

787
00:48:28,155 --> 00:48:31,116
be it in this case or in the other things
we've been talking about today.

788
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:32,034
At a certain point,

789
00:48:32,117 --> 00:48:35,357
no matter how difficult it is, if you know
the difference between right and wrong,

790
00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:38,165
you must stand up for what's right,
and that's what I'm doing.

791
00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:40,584
[exhales sharply]

792
00:48:42,419 --> 00:48:44,004
[Harry] It's just before 2 a.m.

793
00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:48,884
And we're ringing the team in the UK

794
00:48:49,593 --> 00:48:51,511
to get the results of the appeal.

795
00:48:54,681 --> 00:48:57,476
So, just quickly,
while we're waiting for Jenny to call...

796
00:48:58,310 --> 00:48:59,871
- [Meghan] Hm?
- [Harry] How do you feel?

797
00:48:59,895 --> 00:49:02,773
I just... I basically just feel
like a little bit nauseous.

798
00:49:02,856 --> 00:49:05,150
I just don't know. Like...

799
00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:09,863
I know they're confident,
but I just want it all to be over.

800
00:49:17,454 --> 00:49:19,039
[Jenny] <i>Hey. Congratulations.</i>

801
00:49:19,122 --> 00:49:22,209
[Harry and Meghan laughing]

802
00:49:22,292 --> 00:49:23,292
[Meghan sighs]

803
00:49:23,961 --> 00:49:26,922
- [Meghan] Oh.
- [Harry sighs]

804
00:49:27,005 --> 00:49:29,299
[Meghan] Oh, Jenny. Thank you for...

805
00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:31,385
- [Jenny] <i>I know.</i>
- Thank you for not milking that.

806
00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:33,053
Thank you for not playing...

807
00:49:33,136 --> 00:49:35,138
[Jenny and Meghan laughing]

808
00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:36,556
[Mandana] <i>How are you feeling?</i>

809
00:49:37,057 --> 00:49:40,352
I don't know. Maybe now I'm gonna eat
some of the ice cream you sent.

810
00:49:40,435 --> 00:49:42,479
[Isabelle] <i>Fuck, yeah!</i>

811
00:49:42,562 --> 00:49:44,523
<i>[Isabelle squeals]</i>

812
00:49:44,606 --> 00:49:49,778
<i>On every level,
this is so satisfying and sensational!</i>

813
00:49:49,861 --> 00:49:51,905
<i>You did this. And you, H.</i>

814
00:49:51,989 --> 00:49:53,490
My ongoing joke of late

815
00:49:53,573 --> 00:49:57,244
has been like H is just like
Mr. Justice Man. Mr. Justice Man.

816
00:49:57,327 --> 00:50:01,748
And the California version of this
needs to be Mr. Just-Is, man!

817
00:50:01,832 --> 00:50:03,000
[laughing]

818
00:50:03,083 --> 00:50:06,044
[male reporter] <i>Meghan Markle got
a court-mandated front page mea culpa</i>

819
00:50:06,128 --> 00:50:08,213
<i>from a UK tabloid over the weekend.</i>

820
00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:12,217
<i>The statement from</i> Mail on Sunday
<i>stopped short of an apology,</i>

821
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,220
<i>but it did acknowledge
Markle's legal victory.</i>

822
00:50:15,303 --> 00:50:17,764
[soft music playing]

823
00:50:17,848 --> 00:50:22,894
The witness statement had no legal
significance on the case whatsoever,

824
00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:27,274
other than to actually vindicate
a lot of what Meghan had been saying

825
00:50:27,357 --> 00:50:30,485
about how the letter
was never intended to be published.

826
00:50:30,569 --> 00:50:35,282
But it was filed because
the impact on Meghan's reputation

827
00:50:35,365 --> 00:50:37,075
was potentially damaging.

828
00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:42,622
The reporting skewered things to make
it look, falsely, as if Meghan had lied,

829
00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:43,874
which she absolutely hadn't.

830
00:50:43,957 --> 00:50:46,293
As has been proven time and time again,

831
00:50:46,376 --> 00:50:49,838
there's an incentive
for the British media to get you to trial.

832
00:50:50,839 --> 00:50:54,885
Because they can make so much money,
and it creates such a circus around it,

833
00:50:54,968 --> 00:50:56,720
which is exactly what they did here.

834
00:50:56,803 --> 00:50:59,556
And if we don't have the resource,
or the capability, or the capacity

835
00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:02,893
to be able to stand up to these people,
then no one else does.

836
00:51:04,227 --> 00:51:06,772
- [Harry] Hey-o.
- [Meghan] Hi!

837
00:51:07,272 --> 00:51:09,649
- Nice to meet you.
- [woman] Nice to meet you too.

838
00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:12,152
- [woman] Everyone is off to the right.
- Thank you.

839
00:51:13,361 --> 00:51:14,863
- [Meghan] Hi!
- [Harry] Hi guys!

840
00:51:14,946 --> 00:51:16,239
[woman] Okay, so each episode...

841
00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:18,992
[Harry] Everyone's so dressed up.
Thank God I didn't wear jeans.

842
00:51:20,368 --> 00:51:23,830
[Meghan] We have a good friend,
and every year at New Year's,

843
00:51:23,914 --> 00:51:26,875
she goes around the table
and asks who's sitting there at dinner,

844
00:51:26,958 --> 00:51:29,544
"What is your word for this year?"

845
00:51:31,088 --> 00:51:33,298
And a few years ago,
when I heard that, I was like,

846
00:51:33,381 --> 00:51:35,717
"Oh, what is my word?
Not a resolution. What is your word?"

847
00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:36,801
And I thought...

848
00:51:37,219 --> 00:51:40,764
[sighs] "My word is peace. Peace. It's got
to be peace. All I want is peace."

849
00:51:40,847 --> 00:51:43,850
And I went, "Nope.
I can't have peace without truth."

850
00:51:44,351 --> 00:51:46,019
My word for that year was truth.

851
00:51:46,103 --> 00:51:48,396
- Happy Holidays!
- Happy holidays, happy holidays.

852
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,900
- [Meghan] Thank you, guys!
- [Harry] Cheers, guys. Cheers, cheers.

853
00:51:51,983 --> 00:51:52,859
Rick, you're up.

854
00:51:52,943 --> 00:51:56,279
[Meghan] And then by the next year,
oh, here we are again.

855
00:51:56,363 --> 00:51:59,491
Truth. We got some truth out. Finally,
people are gonna know some truths.

856
00:52:00,033 --> 00:52:03,954
But it hasn't given us peace.
It's like my word has to be peace.

857
00:52:04,871 --> 00:52:07,332
It was around that time
that I was like, "I just want peace."

858
00:52:07,415 --> 00:52:10,669
And part of that, for me, is reclaiming.

859
00:52:11,294 --> 00:52:14,548
You know, when you've lost
a huge piece of yourself,

860
00:52:15,799 --> 00:52:19,636
getting that back includes
getting back those relationships

861
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,306
and those friendships
and things that anchor you to who you are.

862
00:52:26,059 --> 00:52:27,894
[sentimental music playing]

863
00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:30,021
Ashleigh was a huge part of that for me.

864
00:52:32,482 --> 00:52:37,154
And then, you know, she came back
into my life then at the end of last year.

865
00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:38,655
[Meghan] Hello!

866
00:52:38,738 --> 00:52:42,617
[Ashleigh] Hello. Hi, baby girl. Hi.

867
00:52:43,201 --> 00:52:46,246
- [Meghan] I texted her.
- [Ashleigh] Thank you. What you doing?

868
00:52:46,329 --> 00:52:50,625
[Meghan] And she was immediately
just happy to be reconnected.

869
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,627
[Ashleigh] I missed you. You're so big.

870
00:52:53,879 --> 00:52:56,506
[Meghan] Good job!
Are you making zucchini muffins?

871
00:52:56,590 --> 00:52:58,800
[Ashleigh] I was there at Christmas.

872
00:52:58,884 --> 00:53:01,595
- [Archie] What's...
- All the sides. Get everything mixed in.

873
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:06,474
I missed so much of Archie's life,
but it doesn't necessarily feel like it.

874
00:53:06,558 --> 00:53:09,144
I think we immediately kind of

875
00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:11,521
had this bond.

876
00:53:13,398 --> 00:53:16,693
So just kind of to experience
them growing up,

877
00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:22,324
feeling like I'm in their life,
that has been really good.

878
00:53:22,407 --> 00:53:24,385
- [Meghan] Here's some more.
- [Ashleigh] Tomatoes.

879
00:53:24,409 --> 00:53:26,262
- [Meghan] Some more.
- [Ashleigh] Your tomatoes!

880
00:53:26,286 --> 00:53:28,872
[Meghan] Look at this one!
Ah, it's so big!

881
00:53:28,955 --> 00:53:31,750
[Meghan] But part
of what's beautiful here is the freedom

882
00:53:31,833 --> 00:53:34,544
to have family moments out in the world.

883
00:53:34,628 --> 00:53:38,673
[Meghan] Oh, we're gonna
see the horses. Yay!

884
00:53:39,216 --> 00:53:42,969
[Meghan] And I want our kids to be
able to do that and to be able to travel.

885
00:53:43,678 --> 00:53:48,934
And to fall in love, you know.
I just want them to be happy.

886
00:53:50,101 --> 00:53:54,231
- [lively music playing]
- [Archie laughing]

887
00:53:56,900 --> 00:54:00,570
The world that they see
is how I would love the world to be.

888
00:54:01,863 --> 00:54:04,991
They don't... They don't need to worry
about the things that we worry about.

889
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:08,036
[both laughing]

890
00:54:08,745 --> 00:54:10,497
- [Archie] Ball?
- [Meghan] Ball?

891
00:54:10,580 --> 00:54:11,665
[Meghan laughing]

892
00:54:12,707 --> 00:54:14,251
- [Harry] Again?
- [Archie] Again.

893
00:54:14,334 --> 00:54:16,169
- [Harry laughs]
- [Archie grunts]

894
00:54:19,047 --> 00:54:20,590
[Archie laughing]

895
00:54:25,971 --> 00:54:27,722
<i>♪ Follow ♪</i>

896
00:54:28,932 --> 00:54:31,309
<i>♪ Follow the sun ♪</i>

897
00:54:32,769 --> 00:54:35,105
<i>♪ And which way the wind blows ♪</i>

898
00:54:36,648 --> 00:54:38,441
<i>♪ When this day is done ♪</i>

899
00:54:41,695 --> 00:54:44,614
<i>♪ Breathe... ♪</i>

900
00:54:44,698 --> 00:54:48,576
[interviewer] <i>Are there things that
you miss about life in the institution?</i>

901
00:54:49,077 --> 00:54:50,537
[Harry] Yeah, I mean, I miss the...

902
00:54:51,037 --> 00:54:54,916
The weird family gatherings when we're all
sort of brought together under one roof

903
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,919
for, you know, certain times of the year.

904
00:54:58,003 --> 00:55:00,588
Um, that I miss.

905
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:04,342
Um, you know, being part of the
institution meant that I was in the UK.

906
00:55:04,426 --> 00:55:06,261
So I miss the UK. I miss my friends.

907
00:55:06,761 --> 00:55:08,013
Um, and I've lost...

908
00:55:08,096 --> 00:55:10,098
I've lost a few friends
in this process as well.

909
00:55:10,181 --> 00:55:12,434
I mean, I came here because I was changed.

910
00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:15,937
I changed to the point
that I'd outgrown my environment.

911
00:55:16,438 --> 00:55:19,607
Therefore, this was
the most obvious place to come.

912
00:55:20,275 --> 00:55:22,355
You know, it's one of the places
where I think my mum

913
00:55:22,402 --> 00:55:24,404
was probably gonna end up
living potentially.

914
00:55:25,363 --> 00:55:26,363
You know.

915
00:55:27,991 --> 00:55:29,909
<i>♪ So follow</i> ♪

916
00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:34,164
<i>Follow the sun ♪</i>

917
00:55:34,748 --> 00:55:37,751
<i>♪ The direction of the birds ♪</i>

918
00:55:38,293 --> 00:55:41,212
<i>♪ The direction of love ♪</i>

919
00:55:43,798 --> 00:55:50,055
<i>♪ Breathe, breathe in the air ♪</i>

920
00:55:50,597 --> 00:55:53,850
<i>♪ Cherish this moment ♪</i>

921
00:55:54,517 --> 00:55:56,603
<i>♪ Cherish this breath... ♪</i>

922
00:55:58,104 --> 00:56:02,984
[Ignacio] Harry was always
looking for a simpler life.

923
00:56:06,404 --> 00:56:09,324
More, uh, human, you know.

924
00:56:09,407 --> 00:56:12,369
A husband and a wife,
with two kids and two dogs.

925
00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:17,916
Thinking about, you know,
what's for dinner and, you know,

926
00:56:17,999 --> 00:56:20,919
what's our schedule look like tomorrow?

927
00:56:21,002 --> 00:56:24,339
Which is not something
that, uh, was so normal for him.

928
00:56:24,422 --> 00:56:26,466
<i>♪ This crazy society... ♪</i>

929
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:27,759
Home sweet home.

930
00:56:27,842 --> 00:56:33,515
<i>♪ The strand
Take a straw to the nearest waters and... ♪</i>

931
00:56:33,598 --> 00:56:36,643
There's times when I've been angry,
but I can't be that angry

932
00:56:36,726 --> 00:56:41,189
because I genuinely feel that I, and we,
are exactly where we're supposed to be.

933
00:56:41,981 --> 00:56:45,693
<i>♪ Long before you came
So which way is the wind blowing...</i> ♪

934
00:56:45,777 --> 00:56:47,487
[Harry] We've made it to the other side.

935
00:56:47,987 --> 00:56:49,989
<i>♪ When this day is done... ♪</i>

936
00:56:50,073 --> 00:56:53,576
[Meghan] It's amazing how things come
full circle that you never think about.

937
00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:57,372
I gave a speech the night of our wedding,

938
00:56:57,455 --> 00:56:59,999
which is atypical for a bride
in the UK, I think?

939
00:57:00,083 --> 00:57:00,959
Very.

940
00:57:01,042 --> 00:57:03,920
I have it on my phone.
I can read it to you. Should I read it?

941
00:57:04,003 --> 00:57:05,003
From your phone?

942
00:57:07,090 --> 00:57:09,092
- Am I gonna be able to read that?
- [Harry] Try.

943
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,139
[Meghan] "On to the crux
of why I wanted to speak tonight."

944
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,808
"First of all, it's been a while."

945
00:57:17,684 --> 00:57:19,185
That got a big laugh.

946
00:57:19,894 --> 00:57:22,063
"But mostly I wanted to share a story."

947
00:57:22,147 --> 00:57:25,775
"A story that I wrote about the man
that I love and the way that we met."

948
00:57:26,401 --> 00:57:29,112
"Let's call this a modern fairy tale.

949
00:57:30,780 --> 00:57:33,867
"Once upon a time,
there was a girl from LA."

950
00:57:33,950 --> 00:57:35,869
"Some people called her an actress."

951
00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:38,913
[soft music playing]

952
00:57:38,997 --> 00:57:40,373
"And there was a guy from London."

953
00:57:41,916 --> 00:57:43,710
"Some people called him a prince."

954
00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:50,425
"All of those people didn't fully get it,

955
00:57:51,259 --> 00:57:55,513
because this is the love story of a boy
and a girl who were meant to be together."

956
00:57:59,601 --> 00:58:03,897
"They meet on July 3rd, 2016 in London.
And they giggle endlessly."

957
00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:08,151
"They have their second date

958
00:58:08,234 --> 00:58:10,487
and he brings her cupcakes
because it's 4th July."

959
00:58:11,237 --> 00:58:14,657
"'A bittersweet celebration', he says.
Ironic really."

960
00:58:14,741 --> 00:58:17,285
"Her country's independence
from his country."

961
00:58:17,368 --> 00:58:20,580
"Yet in this moment, they know they don't
want to be independent of each other."

962
00:58:27,378 --> 00:58:29,714
"And after a month
of long-distance courtship,

963
00:58:30,298 --> 00:58:32,509
they settle into the quiet of Botswana."

964
00:58:37,222 --> 00:58:40,016
"And amidst whatever momentary worries
that creep in,

965
00:58:40,099 --> 00:58:43,645
they look at each other and think,
'Whatever, world, we're in.'"

966
00:58:50,693 --> 00:58:53,488
"They would love,
and garden, and travel, and laugh,

967
00:58:53,571 --> 00:58:56,199
and rack up more air miles
than any couple could have."

968
00:58:57,992 --> 00:59:01,704
"And when the tides were rough,
they squeezed each other tighter."

969
00:59:01,788 --> 00:59:05,291
"'Nothing can break us, ' they'd say.
'For this love, she was a fighter.'"

970
00:59:07,502 --> 00:59:10,463
"I appreciate, respect
and honor you, my treasure,

971
00:59:10,547 --> 00:59:12,298
for the family we will create,

972
00:59:13,633 --> 00:59:15,760
and our love story
that will last forever."

973
00:59:17,595 --> 00:59:20,435
[Harry] She's happy to go up the hill
but she hates going down the hill.

974
00:59:20,515 --> 00:59:22,684
[chuckles] We don't have
that much farther to go.

975
00:59:22,767 --> 00:59:23,685
What?

976
00:59:23,768 --> 00:59:25,186
[Meghan laughing]

977
00:59:26,354 --> 00:59:30,024
"So I ask you to raise a glass
to the astounding assurance

978
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:32,527
that now life begins,

979
00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:36,364
and the everlasting knowing
that, above all, love wins."

980
00:59:37,407 --> 00:59:40,201
["How Glad I Am" by Nancy Wilson playing]

981
00:59:45,832 --> 00:59:48,710
<i>♪ My love has no beginning
My love has no end ♪</i>

982
00:59:49,252 --> 00:59:52,255
<i>♪ No front, no back
And my love won't bend ♪</i>

983
00:59:52,338 --> 00:59:54,257
<i>♪ I'm in the middle</i> ♪

984
00:59:55,008 --> 00:59:57,802
<i>♪ Lost in a spin ♪</i>

985
00:59:58,886 --> 01:00:05,685
<i>♪ Loving you ♪</i>

986
01:00:09,022 --> 01:00:12,567
<i>♪ And you don't know, you don't know
You don't know, you don't know</i> ♪

987
01:00:12,650 --> 01:00:15,153
<i>♪ How glad I am ♪</i>

988
01:00:17,739 --> 01:00:20,491
<i>♪ My love has no bottom
My love has no top ♪</i>

989
01:00:21,242 --> 01:00:24,120
<i>♪ My love won't rise
And my love won't drop ♪</i>

990
01:00:24,203 --> 01:00:25,872
<i>♪ I'm in the middle</i> ♪

991
01:00:27,081 --> 01:00:28,791
<i>♪ And I can't stop ♪</i>

992
01:00:30,335 --> 01:00:37,300
<i>♪ Loving you ♪</i>

993
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,449
<i>♪ And you don't know, you don't know
You don't know, you don't know</i> ♪

994
01:00:43,473 --> 01:00:46,392
<i>♪ How glad I am ♪</i>

995
01:00:48,478 --> 01:00:51,773
<i>♪ I wish I were a poet ♪</i>

996
01:00:52,690 --> 01:00:55,068
<i>♪ So I could express ♪</i>

997
01:00:55,652 --> 01:01:01,783
<i>♪ What I'd, what I'd like to say ♪</i>

998
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:06,037
<i>♪ I wish I were an artist ♪</i>

999
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,165
<i>♪ So I could paint a picture ♪</i>

1000
01:01:09,248 --> 01:01:11,125
<i>♪ Of how I feel</i> ♪

1001
01:01:11,209 --> 01:01:16,506
<i>Of how I feel today ♪</i>

1002
01:01:17,924 --> 01:01:20,885
<i>♪ My love has no walls on either side ♪</i>

1003
01:01:20,968 --> 01:01:23,304
<i>♪ That makes my love wider than wide ♪</i>

1004
01:01:23,388 --> 01:01:28,309
<i>♪ I'm in the middle and I can't hide ♪</i>

1005
01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:36,651
<i>♪ Loving you ♪</i>

1006
01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:43,366
<i>♪ And you don't know, you don't know
You don't know, you don't know</i> ♪

1007
01:01:43,449 --> 01:01:45,368
<i>♪ How glad I am ♪</i>

1008
01:01:51,457 --> 01:01:54,377
<i>♪ And you don't know, you don't know
You don't know, you don't know</i> ♪

1009
01:01:54,961 --> 01:01:58,548
<i>♪ How glad I am ♪</i>