1 00:00:12,263 --> 00:00:13,598 [dial pad beeping] 2 00:00:16,642 --> 00:00:17,560 [line ringing] 3 00:00:19,020 --> 00:00:21,147 [reporter 1] And now to an unbelievable hoax 4 00:00:21,230 --> 00:00:23,566 that police say many people fell victim to. 5 00:00:23,649 --> 00:00:27,111 [reporter 2] A caller pretending to be a police officer was convincing enough 6 00:00:27,195 --> 00:00:31,407 to talk some managers into sexually abusing fast food employees. 7 00:00:32,158 --> 00:00:34,202 [woman 1] If I didn't submit to this search, 8 00:00:34,285 --> 00:00:37,163 then I'd be either arrested or lose my job or both. 9 00:00:37,246 --> 00:00:38,956 Couple police officers telling me 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,834 there's a video of what happened here. 11 00:00:49,008 --> 00:00:52,720 I'd never seen anything like it and I still haven't in 30 years. 12 00:00:54,347 --> 00:00:58,893 [man 1] I'm on the phone and he starts telling me the process. 13 00:00:58,976 --> 00:01:00,311 "Take off her blouse." 14 00:01:01,437 --> 00:01:05,525 [man 2] Here comes one article of clothing off and then another. 15 00:01:05,608 --> 00:01:08,194 [woman 2] I don't think there was anywhere he didn't touch. 16 00:01:08,277 --> 00:01:10,071 [man 1] Check her crevices for drugs? 17 00:01:10,154 --> 00:01:12,115 [woman 3] He wanted him to describe my breasts, 18 00:01:12,198 --> 00:01:13,741 what my genitalia looked like, 19 00:01:13,825 --> 00:01:15,284 and even my bra size. 20 00:01:16,744 --> 00:01:18,371 I was mind-blown. 21 00:01:19,539 --> 00:01:21,249 [man 3 on phone] Who is this? 22 00:01:21,791 --> 00:01:27,004 The psychology employed by the caller was amazing. 23 00:01:27,755 --> 00:01:30,299 [man 2] I didn't know what this guy was capable of. 24 00:01:30,925 --> 00:01:33,261 I just know that this is a bad guy. 25 00:01:33,344 --> 00:01:34,971 [indistinct speech over phone] 26 00:01:35,054 --> 00:01:37,348 [man 4] The caller committed the perfect crime 27 00:01:37,431 --> 00:01:39,976 because he's completely anonymous. 28 00:01:40,059 --> 00:01:42,603 [man 2] Burger Kings and Taco Bells… 29 00:01:42,687 --> 00:01:46,899 Every restaurant you could think of was a victim of this caller. 30 00:01:46,983 --> 00:01:51,779 We have a sexual predator on the loose and the phone's still ringing every day. 31 00:01:51,863 --> 00:01:53,114 [phone ringing] 32 00:02:11,549 --> 00:02:14,552 [man 2] Life out here, it's pretty good. 33 00:02:15,386 --> 00:02:17,805 Good place to raise your family, good schools. 34 00:02:18,973 --> 00:02:20,224 Not a lot of crime. 35 00:02:22,059 --> 00:02:26,314 The night that I got the phone call about the McDonald's case, uh, 36 00:02:27,815 --> 00:02:30,151 I was at home, minding my own business. 37 00:02:31,819 --> 00:02:34,572 [Buddy] And it was, uh, the assistant chief at the time 38 00:02:34,655 --> 00:02:37,783 and he said, uh, "Buddy, what are you doing?" I said, 39 00:02:37,867 --> 00:02:40,870 "I'm sitting on the couch, chilled out, watching old TV." 40 00:02:40,953 --> 00:02:43,372 And, uh, he said, "Well, I need you to come out." 41 00:02:43,456 --> 00:02:47,126 "I'm out here at the McDonald's and I don't know how to explain it." 42 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:49,587 "There's just some bad things happening out here 43 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:50,796 and I need you." 44 00:02:53,215 --> 00:02:56,010 It was, uh, April the 9th, 2004. 45 00:02:56,761 --> 00:02:59,555 I had only been promoted approximately three weeks. 46 00:03:00,389 --> 00:03:02,934 I guess you would say I was a rookie detective. 47 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:07,021 I roll into McDonald's, 48 00:03:07,104 --> 00:03:09,315 I really don't have any idea what's going on. 49 00:03:10,066 --> 00:03:11,067 [siren wailing] 50 00:03:11,859 --> 00:03:14,904 Police cars everywhere, people coming and going… 51 00:03:17,281 --> 00:03:18,824 I walked into the restaurant… 52 00:03:18,908 --> 00:03:21,327 And, uh, McDonald's is still doing business. 53 00:03:22,495 --> 00:03:25,706 We went through the kitchen area and back hallway. 54 00:03:27,291 --> 00:03:28,334 It was just crazy. 55 00:03:28,417 --> 00:03:30,962 People running around like chickens with their heads off. 56 00:03:34,465 --> 00:03:38,386 You could tell that it was an atmosphere where everybody was just upset 57 00:03:40,429 --> 00:03:43,057 and like they'd seen something or done something 58 00:03:43,140 --> 00:03:44,725 they couldn't believe was happening. 59 00:03:47,186 --> 00:03:49,689 I saw the victim in the back office. 60 00:03:49,772 --> 00:03:52,275 She appeared to be upset, head hanging down. 61 00:03:55,069 --> 00:03:58,823 We had a manager that was upset. I had an assistant manager that was upset. 62 00:03:58,906 --> 00:04:00,866 It was like a whirlwind going on. 63 00:04:01,534 --> 00:04:05,788 And I'm thinking, "Oh, what in the hell have they got me into?" 64 00:04:07,623 --> 00:04:10,584 They were trying to explain to me what had happened, 65 00:04:10,668 --> 00:04:13,379 but what they were saying didn't make a lot of sense. 66 00:04:15,131 --> 00:04:16,632 And all I could understand 67 00:04:16,716 --> 00:04:20,845 was that it had something to do with this phone call. 68 00:04:25,474 --> 00:04:29,186 And then one of the officers there told me. He said, uh, 69 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:32,315 "There's a video of what happened here." 70 00:04:32,982 --> 00:04:34,859 And I said, "What?" 71 00:04:36,986 --> 00:04:40,364 There was a CCTV camera in here, recording everything. 72 00:04:40,865 --> 00:04:42,491 I said, "All right, stop. Right here." 73 00:04:42,575 --> 00:04:46,037 "Enough talking about it. We've done beat that horse to death." 74 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,205 "Now let's see exactly what happened." 75 00:04:52,668 --> 00:04:56,255 Started watching the video. There's no sound. 76 00:04:56,339 --> 00:04:59,759 So you can only go by what you see, like watching silent movies. 77 00:04:59,842 --> 00:05:02,219 Donna Summers, who was the assistant manager, 78 00:05:02,303 --> 00:05:04,472 she's on the phone with somebody. 79 00:05:06,974 --> 00:05:08,809 [woman] On this particular day, 80 00:05:08,893 --> 00:05:10,853 a call came in to the restaurant. 81 00:05:10,936 --> 00:05:11,854 [phone ringing] 82 00:05:14,065 --> 00:05:16,817 And the assistant manager at the restaurant, 83 00:05:16,901 --> 00:05:20,196 Donna Summers, 51 years old, takes the call. 84 00:05:22,281 --> 00:05:25,284 And, uh, it's a gentleman on the other line, 85 00:05:25,368 --> 00:05:27,787 saying that he is a police officer. 86 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,667 He's working for the Mount Washington Police, 87 00:05:33,751 --> 00:05:36,712 which is not even a mile up the road from the restaurant. 88 00:05:38,589 --> 00:05:41,926 And that he has the manager of the McDonald's 89 00:05:42,009 --> 00:05:43,177 on the line with him, 90 00:05:43,260 --> 00:05:45,471 along with a corporate representative. 91 00:05:46,806 --> 00:05:49,475 And he's got some very serious business to talk about. 92 00:05:51,268 --> 00:05:53,437 One of her employees has been accused 93 00:05:53,521 --> 00:05:56,690 of stealing a wallet from a customer, who'd been there. 94 00:05:59,235 --> 00:06:03,823 He describes her as petite, uh, brunette hair. 95 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,994 And Donna Summers says, "Yes, we have that employee." 96 00:06:09,078 --> 00:06:10,287 "I know exactly who that is." 97 00:06:14,166 --> 00:06:16,710 [Buddy] As I'm, uh, watching the video, 98 00:06:18,212 --> 00:06:20,589 a young woman comes into the room. 99 00:06:20,673 --> 00:06:22,550 You could see them talking back and forth. 100 00:06:28,806 --> 00:06:30,724 Louise Ogborn, 18 years old, 101 00:06:30,808 --> 00:06:32,518 was working at McDonald's 102 00:06:32,601 --> 00:06:36,188 because her mom had recently lost her job, 103 00:06:36,272 --> 00:06:37,773 and had some health issues, 104 00:06:37,857 --> 00:06:40,860 and she wanted to help the family earn some money. 105 00:06:42,278 --> 00:06:45,447 And on this particular day, they were very busy 106 00:06:45,531 --> 00:06:49,660 and she offered to stay and help with the dinner rush. 107 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:56,834 So, at that point, uh, Donna Summers takes Louise Ogborn to the back office. 108 00:06:58,335 --> 00:06:59,712 [Louise] She told me 109 00:06:59,795 --> 00:07:03,424 that I had been accused of stealing money from my customer's purse. 110 00:07:06,135 --> 00:07:09,805 I just remember being distraught. 111 00:07:09,889 --> 00:07:11,056 I was so upset 112 00:07:11,140 --> 00:07:13,851 that somebody would blame me for something so horrible. 113 00:07:15,895 --> 00:07:18,314 The person on the phone, the police officer, 114 00:07:18,397 --> 00:07:22,109 then tells Ms. Summers, "Now, here's what we can do." 115 00:07:23,277 --> 00:07:26,780 "We can either arrest her at the restaurant 116 00:07:27,907 --> 00:07:30,117 or, if you want to help us out, 117 00:07:30,868 --> 00:07:34,538 we need you to conduct a strip search and see if she has the money on her." 118 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:39,502 [Louise] She started asking me to empty my pockets 119 00:07:39,585 --> 00:07:42,379 and I just started taking stuff out, 120 00:07:44,215 --> 00:07:45,716 laying it on the desk… 121 00:07:45,799 --> 00:07:47,843 And I turn my pockets inside out. 122 00:07:54,517 --> 00:07:56,101 [Buddy] Next thing you know, 123 00:07:56,185 --> 00:07:58,687 another assistant manager walks in, as well, 124 00:07:58,771 --> 00:08:02,733 and they've got a garbage bag and they've put that over the door 125 00:08:04,276 --> 00:08:06,403 so you couldn't look in from the hallway 126 00:08:06,487 --> 00:08:09,698 and see what was going on inside that office. 127 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:13,244 I thought it was strange, 128 00:08:13,327 --> 00:08:16,247 but I guess they were trying to make the victim more comfortable 129 00:08:16,330 --> 00:08:18,874 with what was, uh, going to happen. 130 00:08:22,127 --> 00:08:25,130 [Connie] It's hard to imagine what Donna Summers is thinking. 131 00:08:26,048 --> 00:08:28,259 Most people say they would never believe 132 00:08:28,384 --> 00:08:32,012 someone on the phone is asking them to conduct a strip search. 133 00:08:32,096 --> 00:08:35,683 However, this caller sounds very legitimate. 134 00:08:35,766 --> 00:08:36,725 He's very calm, 135 00:08:36,809 --> 00:08:40,062 he's giving the orders very authoritatively, 136 00:08:40,145 --> 00:08:44,191 and Donna Summers is obeying all of these commands from the officer. 137 00:08:46,110 --> 00:08:48,070 Even Louise complies, 138 00:08:48,153 --> 00:08:50,239 even though she doesn't really want to. 139 00:08:50,322 --> 00:08:53,158 She keeps protesting, saying she didn't do this. 140 00:08:53,242 --> 00:08:57,246 So she's probably thinking, "Well, they're gonna realize this isn't me 141 00:08:57,329 --> 00:08:59,206 and I'll just obey right now 142 00:08:59,290 --> 00:09:02,042 and hopefully they'll let me out of this situation." 143 00:09:04,962 --> 00:09:07,923 But that's when it becomes more bizarre. 144 00:09:09,508 --> 00:09:12,511 All of a sudden, here comes one article of clothing off 145 00:09:12,595 --> 00:09:14,930 and then another article of clothing off. 146 00:09:15,764 --> 00:09:18,350 Then I'm going, "Wow." 147 00:09:18,434 --> 00:09:22,104 "What the hell do we got going on here?" I mean, I was mind-blown. 148 00:09:23,522 --> 00:09:24,773 And the next thing you know, 149 00:09:24,857 --> 00:09:27,693 the victim has nothing on but her underwear and her bra. 150 00:09:28,402 --> 00:09:30,529 And all of a sudden, 151 00:09:31,697 --> 00:09:33,324 they're removed, too. 152 00:09:35,367 --> 00:09:37,745 She's just standing there, just naked. 153 00:09:37,828 --> 00:09:40,748 There's not a stitch of clothes on at all and I'm thinking, 154 00:09:40,831 --> 00:09:43,292 "We're in a McDonald's office with a naked woman?" 155 00:09:43,375 --> 00:09:45,127 "I mean, what's gonna happen next?" 156 00:09:56,805 --> 00:09:59,516 We're probably an hour into the phone call. 157 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,394 I was just standing there with my mouth hung open. 158 00:10:02,478 --> 00:10:04,355 Couldn't believe what I was seeing. 159 00:10:06,315 --> 00:10:07,900 After they remove her clothing, 160 00:10:07,983 --> 00:10:10,861 they give her an apron and she's trying to conceal herself 161 00:10:10,944 --> 00:10:11,987 as best as she can. 162 00:10:13,447 --> 00:10:17,368 [Louise] I was completely undressed. I was embarrassed. 163 00:10:20,829 --> 00:10:24,625 [Buddy] Next thing you know, they're bagging her personal belongings up 164 00:10:25,334 --> 00:10:27,086 and they take them out of the room. 165 00:10:29,797 --> 00:10:32,466 [Connie] The police officer on the line asked her 166 00:10:32,549 --> 00:10:35,386 to take all of Louise's clothing, 167 00:10:35,469 --> 00:10:37,513 get her car keys, 168 00:10:37,596 --> 00:10:40,057 and take it out to the car and put it in the car. 169 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:43,018 So here's Louise Ogborn, 170 00:10:43,102 --> 00:10:46,230 sitting there naked with a little apron over her, 171 00:10:46,313 --> 00:10:49,775 realizing that even if she wants to get out of that situation, 172 00:10:49,858 --> 00:10:52,319 there is a restaurant full of customers 173 00:10:52,403 --> 00:10:54,613 that she's gonna have to run through, naked. 174 00:10:54,697 --> 00:10:56,156 And then what's she gonna do? 175 00:10:56,907 --> 00:10:58,784 So she's stuck back there. 176 00:10:59,618 --> 00:11:01,578 [Louise] I didn't know what was behind the door. 177 00:11:01,662 --> 00:11:05,165 I didn't know if somebody was waiting for me or… 178 00:11:05,249 --> 00:11:10,087 And I didn't want to run out naked and I was just really scared. 179 00:11:12,423 --> 00:11:15,008 What choice did Louise have at this point 180 00:11:15,092 --> 00:11:16,885 but to obey? 181 00:11:21,432 --> 00:11:23,892 [Buddy] This young lady's not being strip-searched. 182 00:11:23,976 --> 00:11:26,520 She's a prisoner in her own place of employment. 183 00:11:27,479 --> 00:11:30,482 She's upset. You can see it in her face 184 00:11:30,566 --> 00:11:34,027 that she was traumatized at the situation she was in. 185 00:11:36,530 --> 00:11:38,574 [Connie] I can only imagine, an 18-year-old, 186 00:11:38,657 --> 00:11:40,742 what's going through your mind. 187 00:11:41,285 --> 00:11:44,538 This is someone who has always followed orders 188 00:11:44,621 --> 00:11:45,747 probably in her life. 189 00:11:45,831 --> 00:11:47,332 Her life has been about order. 190 00:11:48,375 --> 00:11:52,379 Going to church, going to Girl Scouts, going to school. 191 00:11:55,257 --> 00:11:57,885 [Louise] Grew up in a typical military home, 192 00:11:57,968 --> 00:11:59,344 highly disciplined. 193 00:12:00,262 --> 00:12:05,184 I was taught when my dad or my mom told me to do something, 194 00:12:05,267 --> 00:12:07,060 that I absolutely did it. 195 00:12:07,144 --> 00:12:09,480 Uh, if any other adult told me to do something 196 00:12:09,563 --> 00:12:11,732 I absolutely did it, no arguments. 197 00:12:15,694 --> 00:12:17,863 [Buddy] And then the next thing you know, 198 00:12:19,114 --> 00:12:22,784 this man… They come into the office and… 199 00:12:22,868 --> 00:12:24,578 He's a middle-aged man. 200 00:12:25,996 --> 00:12:30,959 He doesn't have an employee uniform, or an apron, or anything on. 201 00:12:35,005 --> 00:12:37,090 I go, "He's not a McDonald's employee, 202 00:12:37,174 --> 00:12:39,676 what's he doing in McDonald's main office?" 203 00:12:40,636 --> 00:12:43,472 We also don't know what type of person this is. 204 00:12:44,515 --> 00:12:47,226 Could he even be in on it with the caller? 205 00:12:52,898 --> 00:12:55,567 [Connie] This whole thing has been going on for hours 206 00:12:55,651 --> 00:12:57,152 and Donna Summers… 207 00:12:57,236 --> 00:13:00,697 She's trying to run a restaurant that's very busy at that time of day. 208 00:13:01,657 --> 00:13:06,203 But every time she starts wondering, "Why's this taking so long?" 209 00:13:06,286 --> 00:13:07,996 He seems to have an answer. 210 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:11,792 "We're on our way. We just don't have many people working today." 211 00:13:11,875 --> 00:13:13,001 "Just bear with us." 212 00:13:13,502 --> 00:13:16,880 So, that sounds like a legitimate answer to Summers. 213 00:13:17,589 --> 00:13:20,050 However, she needs to get back to work. 214 00:13:20,842 --> 00:13:22,678 And the officer says, "Well, look, 215 00:13:22,761 --> 00:13:25,889 do you have a man in your life who you trust?" 216 00:13:25,973 --> 00:13:27,975 "Do you have a husband, a boyfriend?" 217 00:13:28,058 --> 00:13:31,853 "Someone you could maybe bring in who could watch her until we get there?" 218 00:13:32,604 --> 00:13:36,900 And so Donna Summers says, "Yes, actually. I have a fiancé, Walter." 219 00:13:36,984 --> 00:13:38,443 "He could come down." 220 00:13:39,820 --> 00:13:40,654 I'm thinking, 221 00:13:42,155 --> 00:13:44,324 "What part of 'being the right thing to do' 222 00:13:44,408 --> 00:13:45,450 did you think this was?" 223 00:13:49,079 --> 00:13:51,748 Uh, the manager leaves and he takes the phone. 224 00:13:53,125 --> 00:13:56,920 [Connie] And now Walter Nix is listening to the caller 225 00:13:57,004 --> 00:13:59,131 and following his directions. 226 00:13:59,923 --> 00:14:01,675 He says to Louise, "All right, 227 00:14:01,758 --> 00:14:04,052 he wants you to go ahead and drop the apron." 228 00:14:08,932 --> 00:14:10,892 Then the police officer says, 229 00:14:11,518 --> 00:14:13,478 "Can she do some jumping jacks?" 230 00:14:15,105 --> 00:14:16,773 "Maybe she could run in place." 231 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:21,445 "She needs to shake. We need to see if anything falls out." 232 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:23,614 "You never know where she may have hid something." 233 00:14:24,907 --> 00:14:28,118 [Buddy] She's now been in the room nearly two hours. 234 00:14:28,201 --> 00:14:30,329 I see these acts going on. 235 00:14:31,204 --> 00:14:34,041 Jumping jacks, naked. Jogging in place. 236 00:14:34,124 --> 00:14:36,001 Uh, standing in the chair. 237 00:14:36,627 --> 00:14:38,086 It just kept going on and on. 238 00:14:39,755 --> 00:14:42,049 In the meantime, from time to time, 239 00:14:42,132 --> 00:14:45,469 Donna Summers comes back into the office. 240 00:14:46,011 --> 00:14:49,181 And each time she comes back in, you can see Louise Ogborn, 241 00:14:49,264 --> 00:14:51,892 covering herself with that apron. 242 00:14:51,975 --> 00:14:54,186 She doesn't think anything's going on. 243 00:14:54,269 --> 00:14:57,230 She thinks he's just sitting there, listening to the police officer 244 00:14:57,314 --> 00:14:59,524 and watching her until the police get there. 245 00:15:00,609 --> 00:15:03,737 You have to think that Louise is getting worn down mentally 246 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:07,658 and she's not getting any help at all from Donna Summers. 247 00:15:10,118 --> 00:15:11,203 There is one point… 248 00:15:11,286 --> 00:15:14,206 You can see Donna Summers coming back into the room. 249 00:15:14,289 --> 00:15:18,418 And Louise Ogborn does not have her apron covering her. 250 00:15:20,671 --> 00:15:23,298 And Walter Nix is right next to her. 251 00:15:23,382 --> 00:15:24,800 Whether she saw it or not… 252 00:15:24,883 --> 00:15:28,053 She came back in the room very quickly and didn't see it. 253 00:15:28,136 --> 00:15:29,388 Still nothing is done. 254 00:15:30,847 --> 00:15:32,808 So, at that point, Louise has to think, 255 00:15:32,891 --> 00:15:34,309 "I'm all alone here." 256 00:15:35,477 --> 00:15:36,728 "Nobody's gonna help me." 257 00:15:38,146 --> 00:15:42,192 [Louise] Just doing what I had to do to survive. 258 00:15:44,903 --> 00:15:48,407 The caller was telling me to say, "Yes, sir. No, sir." 259 00:15:49,032 --> 00:15:50,742 If I didn't, I would get punished. 260 00:15:52,119 --> 00:15:54,246 And, um, I was petrified. 261 00:15:54,329 --> 00:15:57,833 [voice breaking] I didn't know if this was my last day on Earth. [sniffling] 262 00:15:57,916 --> 00:16:00,460 I didn't know if I'd make it through. 263 00:16:03,463 --> 00:16:04,589 [Buddy] Far as I knew, 264 00:16:04,673 --> 00:16:08,635 Walter Nix was an upstanding person in the community. Churchgoer, family man. 265 00:16:08,719 --> 00:16:12,973 He was a little league, uh, coach, uh, around children all the time, uh… 266 00:16:13,056 --> 00:16:15,017 People trusted him 267 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:16,727 and Donna was gonna marry him. 268 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:21,857 But, evidently, when he was so far out of his normal element, 269 00:16:21,940 --> 00:16:24,568 with this guy talking to him on the phone 270 00:16:25,694 --> 00:16:28,363 that every moral fiber that he had in him… 271 00:16:29,614 --> 00:16:30,741 He just lost it. 272 00:16:33,243 --> 00:16:36,371 And it just kept getting worse, the further the video went. 273 00:16:37,122 --> 00:16:39,958 Even had the young lady turned over his lap 274 00:16:40,042 --> 00:16:43,879 and he would… Was spanking her, uh, naked buttocks. 275 00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:48,300 And I mean to the point that, uh… You could even see the red marks. 276 00:16:48,383 --> 00:16:49,384 And, uh… 277 00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:52,804 [inhales deeply] 278 00:16:54,765 --> 00:16:57,726 Uh, the spanking continues on and off for about 20 minutes. 279 00:16:58,602 --> 00:17:02,189 Louise Ogborn is humiliated, scared. 280 00:17:02,272 --> 00:17:04,733 She's probably afraid for her life at this point. 281 00:17:06,568 --> 00:17:08,487 [Louise] I was crying the whole time. 282 00:17:10,155 --> 00:17:12,824 He had already hit me, beat me, and… 283 00:17:12,908 --> 00:17:14,701 There's no telling what he could have done 284 00:17:14,785 --> 00:17:17,454 if I hadn't stood up for myself and tried to get help. 285 00:17:19,998 --> 00:17:22,042 As the video progressed, uh, 286 00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:25,420 it went to a dark hour. [sighs] 287 00:17:25,504 --> 00:17:26,838 Um… 288 00:17:28,882 --> 00:17:31,802 Walter Nix is then instructed 289 00:17:31,885 --> 00:17:35,680 to have Louise Ogborn sit on his lap. 290 00:17:36,389 --> 00:17:37,724 "We can check her breath." 291 00:17:37,808 --> 00:17:41,478 "You might be able to tell if she has any drugs or alcohol on her breath." 292 00:17:43,188 --> 00:17:47,984 And the police officer tells him to have Louise Ogborn give him a kiss. 293 00:17:51,947 --> 00:17:55,742 [Buddy] Over the next hour, he's persuaded to run through all of these things. 294 00:17:57,202 --> 00:17:59,037 [Connie] And if that was not enough, 295 00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:02,415 the police officer tells Walter Nix, 296 00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:08,922 "I need her to perform a sexual act." 297 00:18:09,005 --> 00:18:12,592 And he instructed her to do so. 298 00:18:16,805 --> 00:18:21,101 [clicks tongue] Uh, Walter Nix actually had the victim perform oral sex on him. 299 00:18:28,024 --> 00:18:31,736 No one understands how this went forward. 300 00:18:31,820 --> 00:18:32,904 But it did go forward. 301 00:18:35,949 --> 00:18:36,950 [Louise] I was numb. 302 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:39,244 I don't remember feeling anything. 303 00:18:40,370 --> 00:18:42,539 [voice breaking] I just wiped my mind. 304 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:43,874 [sniffling] 305 00:18:43,957 --> 00:18:47,419 I just made it to where I wasn't really there mentally. 306 00:18:53,383 --> 00:18:55,552 [Buddy] It was very hard to watch and, uh… 307 00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:00,098 I couldn't believe what I was seeing. 308 00:19:00,765 --> 00:19:04,311 And, uh… I got pretty upset about it. 309 00:19:06,646 --> 00:19:07,647 I was upset 310 00:19:07,731 --> 00:19:11,568 because I didn't see how anything could happen to somebody… like that. 311 00:19:11,651 --> 00:19:14,654 If you can't feel safe working at McDonald's, 312 00:19:14,738 --> 00:19:16,281 we're getting in a sorry world. 313 00:19:20,285 --> 00:19:23,663 A young lady has been sexually assaulted, physically assaulted… 314 00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:26,333 And I'm thinking, "What the hell am I gonna do?" 315 00:19:29,753 --> 00:19:33,006 So, Walter Nix has to be thinking to himself, 316 00:19:33,089 --> 00:19:34,925 "What did I just do?" 317 00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:36,927 And he realizes he's done wrong. 318 00:19:37,010 --> 00:19:39,679 He knew he had to be doing wrong because he takes off. 319 00:19:43,183 --> 00:19:45,185 At this point, I saw enough 320 00:19:45,268 --> 00:19:47,395 that I knew we had a felony that had occurred. 321 00:19:47,479 --> 00:19:50,106 I instructed a police officer to go to his address, 322 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:52,025 bring him to the police department. 323 00:19:52,108 --> 00:19:54,819 He was as much at fault as… As the caller. 324 00:19:54,903 --> 00:19:56,947 In fact, probably he was more at fault. 325 00:19:57,030 --> 00:19:59,866 Just 'cause somebody tells you something don't mean you do it. 326 00:20:01,576 --> 00:20:02,869 So then, at that point, 327 00:20:02,953 --> 00:20:05,121 Donna Summers is like, "What am I gonna do?" 328 00:20:07,332 --> 00:20:09,459 [Buddy] So then here comes an older gentleman in 329 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:12,629 who's a custodian that was off-duty. 330 00:20:15,715 --> 00:20:17,300 [Connie] He gets on the phone. 331 00:20:17,384 --> 00:20:19,803 He hears a few words of it and says, 332 00:20:19,886 --> 00:20:24,140 [scoffs] This… No way. This is not happening. This isn't right. 333 00:20:24,224 --> 00:20:29,354 He had enough common sense to realize, "Wait a minute." 334 00:20:29,437 --> 00:20:31,064 "Is this a real police officer?" 335 00:20:32,732 --> 00:20:36,111 [Connie] He tells Donna Summers that this was not a real call. 336 00:20:36,194 --> 00:20:39,114 Then she finally seems to realize, 337 00:20:39,197 --> 00:20:42,701 "Wait a minute. Is this all not real?" 338 00:20:43,785 --> 00:20:44,828 And everything stops. 339 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:46,913 This whole thing is a hoax. 340 00:20:49,457 --> 00:20:52,335 And, uh, that's when they realize they've been scammed. 341 00:20:56,464 --> 00:20:59,134 Through my mind, I'm thinking, "Who's this caller?" 342 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:03,430 "Surely to God, he's not a cop." 343 00:21:08,059 --> 00:21:09,602 My only thought was, 344 00:21:09,686 --> 00:21:14,357 "How in the hell can a guy get enjoyment out of doing this over the phone, but…" 345 00:21:14,441 --> 00:21:18,653 Obviously, he got gratification strictly by hearing what's going on. 346 00:21:19,362 --> 00:21:24,034 I also think that he got his jollies off of knowing that he had the strength 347 00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:26,328 to get in most people's heads 348 00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:29,706 and have them comply with what his instructions were. 349 00:21:32,917 --> 00:21:35,295 While all kinds of thoughts ran through my mind, 350 00:21:35,378 --> 00:21:38,214 I knew we needed to take the victim's statement. 351 00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:41,301 That's when I sat down 352 00:21:42,761 --> 00:21:44,304 across from her, 353 00:21:45,305 --> 00:21:46,222 and, uh… 354 00:21:48,433 --> 00:21:49,851 looked her in the eye… 355 00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:54,105 I realized I knew her. 356 00:21:56,107 --> 00:21:57,442 Yes. She was my neighbor. 357 00:21:58,610 --> 00:21:59,611 [inhales] Uh… 358 00:21:59,694 --> 00:22:00,570 [sniffles] 359 00:22:01,613 --> 00:22:02,697 And I said, "Louise?" 360 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:06,409 She said, "Yeah, Buddy, it's me." 361 00:22:06,993 --> 00:22:07,994 [sniffles] 362 00:22:08,703 --> 00:22:09,704 And, uh… 363 00:22:12,499 --> 00:22:14,292 Hell, her dad was a friend of mine. 364 00:22:14,376 --> 00:22:15,335 Grew up together. 365 00:22:15,418 --> 00:22:16,336 [inhales deeply] 366 00:22:16,419 --> 00:22:17,337 And, uh… 367 00:22:17,420 --> 00:22:18,254 [sighs] 368 00:22:21,841 --> 00:22:23,635 That hit me right between the eyes. 369 00:22:24,886 --> 00:22:26,221 [clicks tongue] And, uh… 370 00:22:27,180 --> 00:22:29,057 The case became very personal. 371 00:22:29,474 --> 00:22:30,558 [clicks tongue] Uh… 372 00:22:32,018 --> 00:22:33,520 Gave me more drive… [sighs] 373 00:22:35,313 --> 00:22:36,439 Uh… 374 00:22:36,523 --> 00:22:38,983 [clicks tongue] Made me more determined… [sniffles] 375 00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:41,194 that I'm gonna find out who the hell did this, 376 00:22:43,113 --> 00:22:44,948 and I'm gonna put their ass in jail. 377 00:22:46,616 --> 00:22:47,742 [sniffles] 378 00:22:56,292 --> 00:22:58,336 Three weeks before when I took that job, 379 00:22:58,419 --> 00:23:00,630 I never thought I'd have a case like this. 380 00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:05,969 We needed to determine where the phone call was placed from 381 00:23:06,052 --> 00:23:08,263 before we could figure out how to solve this case. 382 00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:11,099 The caller appeared, 383 00:23:11,182 --> 00:23:13,351 based on statements and things they told me, 384 00:23:13,434 --> 00:23:14,727 that he knew 385 00:23:14,811 --> 00:23:17,647 what was actually going on inside that office. 386 00:23:19,107 --> 00:23:21,526 My instinct was that this guy was nearby. 387 00:23:24,195 --> 00:23:26,906 After we took statements that night, 388 00:23:27,407 --> 00:23:31,661 I actually drove back over here to the, uh, parking lot. 389 00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:40,170 Back then, cell phones were just coming on the scene. 390 00:23:40,253 --> 00:23:43,506 Payphones were used very much every day 391 00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:45,425 by a lot of the general public. 392 00:23:46,634 --> 00:23:50,805 I knew that there was a couple payphones on the front wall of the Winn-Dixie store. 393 00:23:50,889 --> 00:23:52,849 I had a hunch that there is a payphone. 394 00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:56,603 And that payphone is in a visual, direct line of sight to the McDonald's. 395 00:23:59,272 --> 00:24:02,734 It's the only way that I felt like why somebody would want to do this. 396 00:24:03,860 --> 00:24:06,237 'Cause they would want to look at the McDonald's 397 00:24:06,988 --> 00:24:09,490 and watch for the police to roll up 398 00:24:09,574 --> 00:24:12,535 and see how successful they were, pulling off their prank. 399 00:24:14,913 --> 00:24:17,332 I thought it could be a disgruntled employee. 400 00:24:17,415 --> 00:24:22,128 It possibly could also be somebody that knew Louise, 401 00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:26,216 whether they were playing a prank on her for fun 402 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:30,595 or whether they had something against her, I didn't know, but that was a possibility. 403 00:24:31,095 --> 00:24:33,473 Your mind runs in a hundred different directions 404 00:24:33,598 --> 00:24:35,475 trying to figure out which way to go. 405 00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:44,192 The next shift I worked, 406 00:24:44,275 --> 00:24:45,944 I went through the statements 407 00:24:46,027 --> 00:24:51,074 to collect more information possibly that would help me solve this. 408 00:24:52,617 --> 00:24:56,371 I felt our case was like a needle in a haystack, right off the bat. 409 00:24:56,454 --> 00:24:57,413 And then… 410 00:24:57,997 --> 00:25:00,583 All of a sudden, I was sitting there. And I thought, 411 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:03,461 "I'm gonna search the Internet." 412 00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:06,005 Punch in "McDonald's strip search". 413 00:25:06,089 --> 00:25:08,049 And… Boom! 414 00:25:08,675 --> 00:25:10,551 There came up a lot of information 415 00:25:10,635 --> 00:25:15,098 from restaurants and retail establishments where this had happened across the nation. 416 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:19,269 Every case was almost the exact same MO. 417 00:25:19,352 --> 00:25:22,355 Some cases even used the same, uh, police officer's name, 418 00:25:22,438 --> 00:25:24,148 Detective Scott. 419 00:25:24,232 --> 00:25:26,359 We had a McDonald's in Hinesville, Georgia, 420 00:25:26,442 --> 00:25:28,194 where a older custodian 421 00:25:28,278 --> 00:25:31,197 did a body cavity search on a female employee. 422 00:25:31,781 --> 00:25:34,200 At a Taco Bell in Phoenix, Arizona, 423 00:25:34,284 --> 00:25:37,996 the manager picked out a customer that fit the description on the phone 424 00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:39,247 and searched her. 425 00:25:39,956 --> 00:25:43,584 In '95, we're at a McDonald's in Raleigh, North Carolina. 426 00:25:43,668 --> 00:25:46,504 In '98, we're in Oak Brook, Illinois and… 427 00:25:46,587 --> 00:25:49,090 So… And he just bounced all over the place and… 428 00:25:49,173 --> 00:25:50,550 Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 429 00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:55,513 Taco Bells and Burger Kings and Hardee's and Applebee's 430 00:25:55,596 --> 00:26:00,310 and every restaurant you could think of was a victim of this caller. 431 00:26:00,393 --> 00:26:05,106 I realize I have information on 73 cases in 32 states. 432 00:26:06,107 --> 00:26:08,318 The first call that we were able to determine 433 00:26:08,401 --> 00:26:10,069 was in 1994. 434 00:26:10,778 --> 00:26:12,905 Here I am in 2004. 435 00:26:14,615 --> 00:26:15,616 And I went… 436 00:26:16,784 --> 00:26:17,827 "Oh, crap." 437 00:26:19,162 --> 00:26:21,748 "This ain't gonna be the local Winn-Dixie payphone." 438 00:26:24,417 --> 00:26:26,044 I knew everybody was looking at me. 439 00:26:26,127 --> 00:26:30,006 This was gonna be a defining moment in my career. 440 00:26:30,506 --> 00:26:34,385 …dangerous, almost unbelievable hoax repeated across the nation many times. 441 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:36,596 And now to an unbelievable hoax 442 00:26:36,679 --> 00:26:39,057 that police say many people fell victim to. 443 00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:41,601 We know that it was at 70 different locations 444 00:26:41,684 --> 00:26:44,062 all over the country, as you can see. 445 00:26:44,562 --> 00:26:46,522 [reporter 1] It's a nationwide investigation. 446 00:26:46,606 --> 00:26:51,361 This same hoax played out at 69 other businesses in 32 states 447 00:26:51,444 --> 00:26:52,862 over ten years. 448 00:26:53,571 --> 00:26:56,449 Detective Stump is considered a hero to the young girl 449 00:26:56,532 --> 00:26:59,077 for tracking down hundreds of calls. 450 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,163 The subject had a way of getting inside of people's minds. 451 00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:06,042 I didn't realize at first, but I was handed a case that, uh, 452 00:27:06,584 --> 00:27:08,002 ended up being a monster 453 00:27:08,086 --> 00:27:10,088 and there's nobody to solve this but me. 454 00:27:11,672 --> 00:27:13,633 We were afraid that, uh, 455 00:27:13,716 --> 00:27:16,427 constantly, every week, more people were gonna be hurt. 456 00:27:17,678 --> 00:27:19,931 We knew we had a bad guy 457 00:27:20,014 --> 00:27:22,475 that thought he could do any damn thing he wanted. 458 00:27:23,935 --> 00:27:25,978 'Cause he'd been doing it for ten years 459 00:27:26,062 --> 00:27:30,191 and he didn't think he could get caught and he was gonna keep on going and going. 460 00:27:33,111 --> 00:27:34,278 I'm very concerned 461 00:27:34,362 --> 00:27:36,531 that we have a sexual predator on the loose. 462 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:41,744 My thought is, what's gonna happen tonight? 463 00:27:43,371 --> 00:27:47,375 What business is gonna get hit? What young victim's gonna be victimized? 464 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:51,003 Somebody had to stop this monster from what he was doing. 465 00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:58,719 I knew that to catch this guy, 466 00:27:58,803 --> 00:28:01,222 I needed to understand his particular MO. 467 00:28:02,056 --> 00:28:03,766 And to do that, 468 00:28:03,850 --> 00:28:07,145 I needed to understand more about his past cases. 469 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:23,077 [woman] Blackfoot's a nice, close-knit community. 470 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:25,830 It's a small farming town… 471 00:28:25,913 --> 00:28:28,124 Conservative and fairly religious. 472 00:28:31,127 --> 00:28:32,753 I always felt safe. 473 00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:38,509 The caller targeted certain audiences. 474 00:28:39,051 --> 00:28:40,970 He targeted small towns 475 00:28:41,929 --> 00:28:46,184 where people were more willing to believe in authority. 476 00:28:47,101 --> 00:28:49,645 Especially if somebody says that they're police. 477 00:28:51,981 --> 00:28:56,986 I was raised to respect the authority of people in charge of me. 478 00:28:57,069 --> 00:29:01,240 Teachers, people at church, uh, those that are older than me. 479 00:29:01,324 --> 00:29:04,452 That person was smart enough to know 480 00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:08,998 that smaller cities might have 481 00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:13,044 young, impressionable people working at their fast food restaurants 482 00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:16,255 that really need to keep their day jobs. 483 00:29:18,674 --> 00:29:20,802 I was 16 years old when I took this job. 484 00:29:21,636 --> 00:29:23,763 And I was thrilled when I got the position. 485 00:29:23,846 --> 00:29:26,140 Because I'm gonna be earning my own money. 486 00:29:26,641 --> 00:29:30,895 I was a loyal, dutiful, like, always early employee. 487 00:29:35,441 --> 00:29:38,277 It was December 16th, 1999. 488 00:29:39,195 --> 00:29:43,658 Just an ordinary, cold, December weeknight. 489 00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:50,248 Suddenly, I was called back to the office by name. 490 00:29:51,916 --> 00:29:54,210 The manager told me that he was on the phone 491 00:29:54,293 --> 00:29:57,505 with someone named Officer Davis, from the Blackfoot Police Department. 492 00:30:01,342 --> 00:30:04,595 A woman had been at our establishment earlier that evening. 493 00:30:05,096 --> 00:30:06,973 Her purse was stolen 494 00:30:07,056 --> 00:30:09,559 and it had a $50 bill in it. 495 00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:13,062 And she knows that one of the servers 496 00:30:13,604 --> 00:30:14,689 took it. 497 00:30:16,774 --> 00:30:18,109 $50 is a lot of money 498 00:30:18,192 --> 00:30:21,571 when you're making $2.80 an hour plus tips. 499 00:30:22,905 --> 00:30:27,159 But I wouldn't dream of touching a customer's personal belongings at all. 500 00:30:28,744 --> 00:30:30,621 And then they stated that it was, um… 501 00:30:30,705 --> 00:30:32,707 The person she thinks had her purse 502 00:30:32,790 --> 00:30:35,251 was a female server, 503 00:30:35,835 --> 00:30:38,045 little over 5-foot, and blonde hair. 504 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,091 What the hoax caller is doing on the phone 505 00:30:42,174 --> 00:30:44,135 is giving a very basic description 506 00:30:44,218 --> 00:30:46,888 and he knows that there would be a young employee 507 00:30:46,971 --> 00:30:50,766 that fits the description of a petite, meek, young woman. 508 00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,020 [Elizabeth] I was protesting that I'm not 5-foot. 509 00:30:54,103 --> 00:30:56,188 I'm not blonde. It was not me. You know… 510 00:30:56,689 --> 00:30:57,899 I was adamant. It wasn't me. 511 00:31:00,735 --> 00:31:02,111 No matter what I said, 512 00:31:02,194 --> 00:31:07,033 the officer had a believable, plausible, reasonable answer for everything. 513 00:31:08,868 --> 00:31:13,414 Officer wanted the clothes removed piece by piece. 514 00:31:13,497 --> 00:31:16,417 And it began with removing shoes. 515 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:20,838 And then it was my pants. 516 00:31:22,715 --> 00:31:25,468 And then it was my uniform shirt. 517 00:31:27,553 --> 00:31:31,307 So just a progression of one item at a time. 518 00:31:32,099 --> 00:31:35,019 With lots of talk between. 519 00:31:36,187 --> 00:31:39,523 [Connie] The caller seems to love the slow pace of this. 520 00:31:40,775 --> 00:31:41,817 Starts off easy, 521 00:31:41,901 --> 00:31:45,363 to see if he can kind of reel the people in. 522 00:31:47,615 --> 00:31:50,618 And then, it gets bigger and bigger. It escalates. 523 00:31:51,869 --> 00:31:54,246 [Elizabeth] As it goes on, I'm just getting more hysterical 524 00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:56,040 'cause I'm just pleading 525 00:31:56,123 --> 00:31:58,376 and I just kept saying, "This isn't right." 526 00:32:00,127 --> 00:32:03,297 It didn't matter. It even seemed to anger the officer even more. 527 00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:07,885 He was asking that my manager describe my body. 528 00:32:07,969 --> 00:32:11,639 He wanted him to describe my breasts, what my genitalia looked like… 529 00:32:11,722 --> 00:32:13,641 And even my bra size. 530 00:32:13,724 --> 00:32:16,519 That's when I snatched the phone away and was screaming, 531 00:32:16,602 --> 00:32:19,981 "How in the world could my bra cup size and all this stuff 532 00:32:20,064 --> 00:32:25,027 have anything at all to do with this allegedly stolen $50 bill?" 533 00:32:28,572 --> 00:32:31,200 Even though I was extremely violated and traumatized, 534 00:32:31,283 --> 00:32:35,037 I didn't feel personally empowered enough to just get the hell out of there. 535 00:32:36,706 --> 00:32:38,124 And right about that time, 536 00:32:38,207 --> 00:32:40,459 my coworker, Derek, came in. 537 00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:44,005 And could tell something was wrong. 538 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:50,636 It's 1999 in Blackfoot, Idaho. 539 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,472 Uh, jobs are kinda limited for our area, 540 00:32:53,556 --> 00:32:56,892 so I ended up getting a job at a pizza parlor. 541 00:32:57,476 --> 00:32:58,894 I was 22 at the time. 542 00:32:58,978 --> 00:33:03,441 Most of our waiting staff were under the age of 18. 543 00:33:05,067 --> 00:33:07,236 I went through the employee entrance. 544 00:33:07,945 --> 00:33:12,408 Immediately, I noticed that something was really wrong 545 00:33:12,491 --> 00:33:16,996 and asked the cook what was going on because I could see no wait staff. 546 00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:21,292 It was just the cook, a pile of pizzas, breadsticks for days, 547 00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:23,419 carry-outs waiting to be boxed up. 548 00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:26,047 It was chaos for a pizza parlor. 549 00:33:26,130 --> 00:33:30,843 And I said, "What is going on?" She's like, "Something in the office." 550 00:33:32,386 --> 00:33:35,014 When I turn the corner and I see the manager, 551 00:33:36,182 --> 00:33:37,349 he looks up at me. 552 00:33:37,433 --> 00:33:39,935 I'll never forget the sweat pouring off his body. 553 00:33:40,019 --> 00:33:41,854 Never seen anything like it since. 554 00:33:42,855 --> 00:33:43,731 I see 555 00:33:44,648 --> 00:33:47,026 a young lady getting strip-searched. 556 00:33:48,235 --> 00:33:49,070 I said, 557 00:33:49,153 --> 00:33:50,821 "What the fuck are you doing?" 558 00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:55,367 And he said, "There's a cop on the phone." 559 00:33:55,451 --> 00:33:58,496 "And I'm doing a strip search for the police." 560 00:33:59,246 --> 00:34:02,041 And I grabbed the phone and I said, "Who is this?" 561 00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:03,542 And the guy says… 562 00:34:03,626 --> 00:34:06,378 "This is an officer with the Blackfoot Police Department." 563 00:34:08,214 --> 00:34:12,968 He sounded cool, calm, collected, like this is something he does every day. 564 00:34:13,052 --> 00:34:15,888 And I said, "Then you, of all people, should know 565 00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:20,142 this manager should not be strip-searching a minor." 566 00:34:20,226 --> 00:34:21,852 "Especially a female." 567 00:34:21,936 --> 00:34:24,563 I was like, "We need to get the real cops here." 568 00:34:25,106 --> 00:34:27,024 And he hung up. 569 00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:28,067 [disconnected tone] 570 00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:33,531 It took an outsider coming in 571 00:34:33,614 --> 00:34:36,033 and being alarmed at the information enough 572 00:34:36,117 --> 00:34:38,577 to act and do something and stop the situation. 573 00:34:39,161 --> 00:34:41,413 I was very grateful for his intervention. 574 00:34:43,749 --> 00:34:46,001 [Derek] I wish I would've been there sooner. 575 00:34:46,085 --> 00:34:48,712 I did what I was supposed to do when I got there. 576 00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:53,801 It pisses me off that somebody's gonna take advantage of people like that. 577 00:34:53,884 --> 00:34:55,928 When I realized it was a hoax 578 00:34:56,011 --> 00:35:00,516 and that this was just a person impersonating a real police officer, 579 00:35:01,475 --> 00:35:02,309 I was outraged. 580 00:35:03,018 --> 00:35:08,274 In 1999, I would have said 100% the manager is involved with this. 581 00:35:08,357 --> 00:35:10,609 And after learning 582 00:35:10,693 --> 00:35:14,488 that this has happened so many times in so many different states, 583 00:35:15,406 --> 00:35:18,450 I just don't see how it's plausible for him to be involved. 584 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,495 You know? I… I honestly don't think 585 00:35:21,579 --> 00:35:23,956 that anybody at these restaurants were involved. 586 00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,917 I think that they were honestly just taken advantage of. 587 00:35:28,836 --> 00:35:33,090 Then went home, but stayed up pretty late and wrote down… 588 00:35:33,716 --> 00:35:35,050 Recounted the whole story. 589 00:35:52,610 --> 00:35:54,904 Just being able to sit down with my legal pad 590 00:35:54,987 --> 00:35:59,450 and even make it through my account. That was really hard. 591 00:36:03,370 --> 00:36:04,872 I was so personally wronged. 592 00:36:05,706 --> 00:36:07,208 And I was discouraged to learn 593 00:36:07,291 --> 00:36:10,794 that there was no way that the police would put significant resources 594 00:36:10,878 --> 00:36:13,672 into checking this out or following up. 595 00:36:13,756 --> 00:36:16,175 It wasn't a priority for them. 596 00:36:17,426 --> 00:36:19,011 [Connie] What's really hard to believe 597 00:36:19,094 --> 00:36:21,555 is that somebody was doing this all over the place 598 00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:23,140 and just getting away with it. 599 00:36:23,224 --> 00:36:27,311 Were all the cases not investigated? Were people afraid to report it? 600 00:36:29,188 --> 00:36:31,899 [Buddy] This case is so bizarre. It's hard to describe. 601 00:36:33,609 --> 00:36:34,944 We had the proof, 602 00:36:35,027 --> 00:36:40,282 the undeniable video evidence that… That this did happen. 603 00:36:40,366 --> 00:36:42,201 The other agencies didn't have that. 604 00:36:42,284 --> 00:36:44,411 They didn't have nothing but a statement 605 00:36:44,495 --> 00:36:46,455 of someone saying, "This is what happened." 606 00:36:47,456 --> 00:36:48,415 As far as I knew, 607 00:36:48,499 --> 00:36:50,918 I was the only person investigating this thing. 608 00:36:51,502 --> 00:36:54,421 I had no idea someone else was onto him, too. 609 00:37:07,810 --> 00:37:09,728 [reporter] An unbelievable phone scam 610 00:37:09,812 --> 00:37:13,232 hit four branches of Wendy's in Boston, late Friday. 611 00:37:13,315 --> 00:37:15,442 The caller claimed to be a police officer 612 00:37:15,526 --> 00:37:17,236 and was able to trick managers 613 00:37:17,319 --> 00:37:20,864 into performing illegal strip searches on employees. 614 00:37:21,490 --> 00:37:22,908 In the most shocking case, 615 00:37:22,992 --> 00:37:27,538 a young female manager was tricked into sexually assaulting a male server. 616 00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:31,000 Some outrageous sexual conduct happened 617 00:37:31,083 --> 00:37:35,087 in which he was asked to spread his arms and his legs. 618 00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:39,758 She had touched him inappropriately. Including his private parts. 619 00:37:43,137 --> 00:37:46,807 [man] It was just really horrific what the victims went through. 620 00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:49,643 If anybody had done this to my child, 621 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:52,479 I would be outraged. 622 00:37:57,776 --> 00:37:59,486 I always treat people like family 623 00:37:59,570 --> 00:38:04,116 so I get pissed that this happened to these men and women. 624 00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,328 And I wanted to make sure it stopped. 625 00:38:10,456 --> 00:38:13,751 It really piqued my interest because of the bizarre nature. 626 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,129 Usually, we get a lot of drug cases. 627 00:38:17,212 --> 00:38:19,548 You know, on a daily basis, 628 00:38:19,631 --> 00:38:22,801 we'd be out buying heroin, buying cocaine… 629 00:38:22,885 --> 00:38:25,971 The fad drugs they call molly and OxyContin. 630 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,185 So yesterday, we're buying heroin. 631 00:38:31,268 --> 00:38:35,189 Today, I'm tracking a hoax caller posing as a police officer. 632 00:38:36,607 --> 00:38:39,360 We had no idea where the call came from. 633 00:38:41,111 --> 00:38:43,530 We had no suspects. Nobody. 634 00:38:43,614 --> 00:38:46,367 Got back to the office and put my hands overhead, going, 635 00:38:46,450 --> 00:38:49,620 "I don't know how I'm going to find this needle in a haystack." 636 00:38:57,878 --> 00:39:01,215 [Buddy] Other than the video, I got one piece of evidence. 637 00:39:01,298 --> 00:39:03,801 That's the caller ID number from the star 69. 638 00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:06,220 An employee at the restaurant 639 00:39:06,303 --> 00:39:09,014 was fast thinking enough to think star 69. 640 00:39:09,098 --> 00:39:12,059 And for those of us who remember the landlines, 641 00:39:12,142 --> 00:39:14,561 you would put in star 69 642 00:39:14,645 --> 00:39:16,897 and it would take you back to the last caller. 643 00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:20,818 If I hadn't had that number, this case would've been dead in the dirt. 644 00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:25,072 I'm sitting there looking at this phone number. 645 00:39:25,823 --> 00:39:26,740 I call it. 646 00:39:27,658 --> 00:39:28,492 [busy tone] 647 00:39:28,575 --> 00:39:30,035 And I get a busy sig. 648 00:39:31,954 --> 00:39:34,123 And I thought, "Wait. No." 649 00:39:34,206 --> 00:39:35,457 I call it again. 650 00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:37,876 And I get a busy signal. 651 00:39:39,294 --> 00:39:42,423 And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking I've got a phone number. 652 00:39:42,923 --> 00:39:44,758 And it's not telling me nothing. 653 00:39:45,509 --> 00:39:47,803 At that time, I didn't have a lot of help. 654 00:39:47,886 --> 00:39:51,306 I didn't have two or three other detectives who would work with me. 655 00:39:51,557 --> 00:39:53,267 I had nothing to go on. 656 00:39:59,148 --> 00:40:01,650 [Victor] I'm doing this investigation basically alone 657 00:40:01,733 --> 00:40:03,235 and it's tough to get going. 658 00:40:04,736 --> 00:40:07,573 Think about it. What evidence is there to this case? 659 00:40:09,867 --> 00:40:12,661 But I knew that I was gonna do everything I could, 660 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:15,205 and if I did everything I can to catch him, I will. 661 00:40:17,624 --> 00:40:19,209 The first lead in the case 662 00:40:19,293 --> 00:40:22,588 was doing what they call a reverse toll on all four locations. 663 00:40:23,547 --> 00:40:27,217 I'm getting multiple subpoenas from the judge for those records. 664 00:40:27,301 --> 00:40:31,346 And I get a report back saying that the numbers are fake. 665 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:32,556 They go nowhere. 666 00:40:33,307 --> 00:40:34,725 We don't know anything else. 667 00:40:34,808 --> 00:40:38,812 We don't know if it's a cell number, we don't know hardline. We know nothing. 668 00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:49,740 [Buddy] I call AT&T and I go through a series of people. 669 00:40:53,202 --> 00:40:54,995 They would transfer me to another individual 670 00:40:55,078 --> 00:40:57,915 and I'd do the same thing, go to another individual. 671 00:40:59,166 --> 00:41:00,667 Finally, after… [inhales] 672 00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:03,837 oh, probably an hour and a half on the phone, 673 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:06,465 I got this lady 674 00:41:07,591 --> 00:41:09,551 and I'll never forget what she said. 675 00:41:09,635 --> 00:41:11,220 [clicks tongue] "You know… 676 00:41:11,845 --> 00:41:15,933 I think this might be one of our prepaid calling card numbers." 677 00:41:17,184 --> 00:41:18,727 And I'm thinking, "All right." 678 00:41:19,603 --> 00:41:23,857 Knew nothing about calling cards. Never had worked a case involving one. 679 00:41:24,525 --> 00:41:27,778 Nobody knew technology that would be involved. 680 00:41:27,861 --> 00:41:31,406 That was our next step. Figure out how to track a prepaid calling card. 681 00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:39,039 [Victor] We knew that it's not a local caller, 682 00:41:39,957 --> 00:41:42,876 so I understand why he bought the prepaid calling cards. 683 00:41:44,419 --> 00:41:46,088 If you remember, back in the day, 684 00:41:46,171 --> 00:41:48,423 calling cards were used on a daily basis. 685 00:41:48,507 --> 00:41:50,884 It was convenient, it was cheaper. 686 00:41:50,968 --> 00:41:53,470 These calls were upwards of 90 minutes. 687 00:41:53,971 --> 00:41:56,223 So, these were very expensive calls. 688 00:41:57,307 --> 00:41:58,976 I called AT&T. 689 00:42:02,312 --> 00:42:03,480 [line ringing] 690 00:42:03,564 --> 00:42:04,898 "You're on hold," and it says, 691 00:42:04,982 --> 00:42:08,110 "The next representative will get to you in 30 minutes." 692 00:42:08,986 --> 00:42:10,696 And you're sitting there, waiting. 693 00:42:10,779 --> 00:42:13,031 -Listen to that terrible music. -[hold music playing] 694 00:42:13,115 --> 00:42:15,242 And then somebody picked up the phone. 695 00:42:15,325 --> 00:42:16,493 [music stops] 696 00:42:16,577 --> 00:42:18,912 Said, "This is Michelle with subpoena clients, AT&T, 697 00:42:18,996 --> 00:42:19,997 how can I help you?" 698 00:42:20,747 --> 00:42:24,459 I said I need to know the originating calling number 699 00:42:25,085 --> 00:42:26,336 for these fake numbers. 700 00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:28,547 And she said, "Well, they can't be traced." 701 00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:30,173 I said, "It makes no sense." 702 00:42:30,257 --> 00:42:34,177 "You're telling me that you cannot trace these prepaid calling cards at all?" 703 00:42:34,678 --> 00:42:36,138 She said, "No, they can't." 704 00:42:36,221 --> 00:42:39,808 I don't know what to say anymore. I don't know what to do. 705 00:42:42,603 --> 00:42:45,397 I guess you could say I was chasing the voice on the phone, 706 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,317 but actually, I was just chasing a phone number. 707 00:42:49,818 --> 00:42:51,445 Because I've never heard the voice. 708 00:42:52,946 --> 00:42:55,616 I wouldn't have known the voice if I had heard it. 709 00:42:56,325 --> 00:43:00,704 Dead end after dead end, frustration after frustration, 710 00:43:00,787 --> 00:43:02,039 I didn't care what I had to do. 711 00:43:02,122 --> 00:43:04,625 How many hours I had to put in, who I had to call. 712 00:43:05,375 --> 00:43:08,795 Because I didn't know what this guy was capable of. 713 00:43:10,505 --> 00:43:12,841 I just know that this is a bad guy. 714 00:43:13,550 --> 00:43:16,386 He needs to go to jail as fast as we can get him there. 715 00:43:25,312 --> 00:43:28,148 [Victor] Everything that I was doing at this point was phone calls, 716 00:43:28,231 --> 00:43:32,361 phone calls to other agencies, phone calls to AT&T. 717 00:43:34,154 --> 00:43:37,741 I talked to Michelle from AT&T more than my wife at that point. 718 00:43:37,824 --> 00:43:42,496 I mean, we talked all the time and we went back and forth, for a while. 719 00:43:42,579 --> 00:43:46,041 And just kept asking questions. 720 00:43:46,750 --> 00:43:49,795 "You're telling me that there's no way these can be traced?" 721 00:43:49,878 --> 00:43:53,632 I said, "I've looked at a calling card. They have different numbers on them." 722 00:43:54,841 --> 00:43:56,718 "What do these numbers mean?" "I don't know." 723 00:43:56,802 --> 00:43:59,346 "Why do they have a barcode on them?" "I don't know." 724 00:44:00,514 --> 00:44:03,350 I said, "I'm not giving up until you give me an answer." 725 00:44:04,434 --> 00:44:07,604 Then she calls me and she was a little upbeat. 726 00:44:07,688 --> 00:44:09,272 She said, "I got some answers." 727 00:44:09,356 --> 00:44:13,860 "Since 9/11, even though we don't want the public to know, 728 00:44:14,444 --> 00:44:16,780 prepaid calling cards are now traceable." 729 00:44:18,115 --> 00:44:20,242 I'm excited. I'm like, "Here we go." 730 00:44:20,909 --> 00:44:23,787 And she says, "Vic, the true originating numbers 731 00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:25,580 are coming from Panama City, Florida." 732 00:44:33,088 --> 00:44:35,006 Touchdown. We have a location. 733 00:44:35,799 --> 00:44:40,220 [Buddy] Finally, I found out that the call originated in Panama City, Florida, 734 00:44:40,303 --> 00:44:43,724 and I'm thinking, "Hell, that's a place where you go to beach to have fun." 735 00:44:43,807 --> 00:44:47,394 I was shocked that crimes like this can be committed there, 736 00:44:47,477 --> 00:44:49,229 but I didn't know what to think, 737 00:44:49,312 --> 00:44:55,819 but I knew that I had just latched on to a very important piece of information. 738 00:45:00,157 --> 00:45:04,661 So I know now these are real locations, not fake locations, real. 739 00:45:05,328 --> 00:45:07,247 The problem is they're payphones. 740 00:45:08,957 --> 00:45:11,668 What good is a payphone? I can't knock on the door, 741 00:45:11,751 --> 00:45:13,420 numerous people use it. 742 00:45:14,504 --> 00:45:18,341 I knew when the call was made. I knew the payphone booth. 743 00:45:18,425 --> 00:45:21,344 I knew exactly where he was, the time he was at… 744 00:45:22,512 --> 00:45:25,891 That's it. We don't have anything else, we don't know anything else. 745 00:45:27,476 --> 00:45:28,935 I'm back to square one. 746 00:45:31,271 --> 00:45:34,024 I call Panama City detectives and talk with them. 747 00:45:34,107 --> 00:45:38,695 They basically told me that Panama City had received multiple, multiple calls 748 00:45:38,778 --> 00:45:42,949 about calls coming from their area as a hoax 749 00:45:43,033 --> 00:45:46,036 posing as a police detective and strip-searching people. 750 00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:47,871 And I was like, "What?" 751 00:45:47,954 --> 00:45:50,707 "I thought this was only us." That just blew my mind. 752 00:45:55,670 --> 00:46:00,592 At this point, I realized that he's practiced it so many times 753 00:46:00,675 --> 00:46:03,637 that he just knew exactly what to say next. 754 00:46:04,554 --> 00:46:06,389 And probably didn't win every time. 755 00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:10,101 He got hung up on numerous times, 756 00:46:10,185 --> 00:46:13,438 but when he did, he got this far, they hung up on him. 757 00:46:13,522 --> 00:46:16,608 Next one, got a little far-er, then they hung up on him. 758 00:46:16,691 --> 00:46:18,443 Some hung up on him immediately, 759 00:46:19,319 --> 00:46:22,197 but he learned to play the role. 760 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,074 He learned to play the game. 761 00:46:24,783 --> 00:46:26,326 That's the sick part about it. 762 00:46:26,868 --> 00:46:29,913 He got better at it, and when he got better at it, 763 00:46:29,996 --> 00:46:32,749 it became more of a… drug. 764 00:46:33,542 --> 00:46:35,001 He just had to have it. 765 00:46:35,585 --> 00:46:39,047 I really didn't believe it was a police officer. 766 00:46:39,130 --> 00:46:43,635 Could have been a wannabe. Power-hungry, liked to have authority. 767 00:46:44,844 --> 00:46:47,097 Maybe he felt he was invincible at that point. 768 00:46:48,348 --> 00:46:50,684 Because he got four-for-four in Massachusetts. 769 00:46:52,852 --> 00:46:54,563 That's 100%. 770 00:46:58,149 --> 00:47:01,861 [Elizabeth] We probably all individually had the feeling that this was only us 771 00:47:01,945 --> 00:47:04,197 and felt stupid and dumb about it. 772 00:47:05,156 --> 00:47:09,035 But the fact that there were so many women that this happened to 773 00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:12,247 makes me feel less foolish and naive. 774 00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:16,501 But even in admitting that, it's just… 775 00:47:17,961 --> 00:47:22,215 Oh, totally demoralizing because I just feel that 776 00:47:22,924 --> 00:47:25,552 that's a pretty bold breakdown of justice? 777 00:47:28,388 --> 00:47:31,099 I absolutely feel that he needs to be apprehended 778 00:47:31,182 --> 00:47:32,892 and made to pay for his actions. 779 00:47:34,811 --> 00:47:38,064 I think he just destroyed their lives, families as well. 780 00:47:38,565 --> 00:47:43,236 There was nobody in the United States that could say 100% 781 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,156 that their daughter or son was safe from this guy. 782 00:47:47,949 --> 00:47:49,659 We need to make sure we found this caller 783 00:47:49,743 --> 00:47:51,995 so that this wasn't happening to any more victims. 784 00:47:52,996 --> 00:47:55,749 Some nights, it's hard to go to sleep thinking about it. 785 00:47:56,583 --> 00:47:59,169 I needed to know he's behind bars, 786 00:47:59,919 --> 00:48:03,089 and no other victim is going to fall prey to him. 787 00:48:09,554 --> 00:48:11,931 [Victor] At this point, I was at a standstill 788 00:48:12,015 --> 00:48:13,391 because we got to the point 789 00:48:13,475 --> 00:48:16,519 where we've identified where the calls were made from was a dead end. 790 00:48:17,312 --> 00:48:18,396 There's nowhere else to go. 791 00:48:19,689 --> 00:48:20,857 But I'm not giving up, 792 00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:24,819 because now it's really getting down to the nitty-gritty. 793 00:48:24,903 --> 00:48:30,241 Really getting into picky, real police investigative 794 00:48:31,785 --> 00:48:34,579 hard work, and I'm okay with that. 795 00:48:35,955 --> 00:48:40,043 So now my next step is to identify 796 00:48:40,126 --> 00:48:42,087 where the calling card was purchased. 797 00:48:43,797 --> 00:48:46,508 When I finally got that information back, 798 00:48:47,050 --> 00:48:51,304 it said that they were bought on February 19th at Walmart, 799 00:48:51,388 --> 00:48:52,222 in Panama City. 800 00:48:54,974 --> 00:48:57,394 Hopefully, this is the big break we're looking for. 801 00:49:00,814 --> 00:49:03,566 It's a big company. Big companies have video. 802 00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:07,404 If he bought this at a little convenience store, they might not have video. 803 00:49:07,904 --> 00:49:11,825 So I call Walmart and I ask for video, 804 00:49:11,908 --> 00:49:14,661 I know it was purchased on this time, on this date. 805 00:49:15,995 --> 00:49:20,333 They repeatedly tell me, "I don't think I can get this, talk to this guy." 806 00:49:20,417 --> 00:49:25,171 So we go from one to the next to the next, till I finally get the guy. 807 00:49:25,255 --> 00:49:27,674 And he says, "Yes, I can give you that." 808 00:49:31,469 --> 00:49:33,263 So I finally get this VHS tape, 809 00:49:33,346 --> 00:49:38,017 put a set up in my office with a TV and a VCR and I put it in. 810 00:49:43,022 --> 00:49:44,983 And as soon as I popped it in, I realized 811 00:49:45,066 --> 00:49:47,527 it wasn't what I was expecting at all. 812 00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:50,780 You could tell it's just one of these tapes that's continually used, 813 00:49:50,864 --> 00:49:53,366 probably six months, the quality was terrible. 814 00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:57,537 It's of seven or eight locations throughout the store. 815 00:49:57,620 --> 00:50:00,749 So, flash a picture of the jewelry section, 816 00:50:00,832 --> 00:50:01,875 flash the entrance. 817 00:50:02,792 --> 00:50:04,377 Then it'd go back, and it'd be a loop. 818 00:50:04,461 --> 00:50:07,338 Flash, this one, this one, this one, then back to the entrance. 819 00:50:07,422 --> 00:50:10,467 And there's no video in the registers. 820 00:50:10,550 --> 00:50:13,636 Surely, if I continue watching this, I wouldn't be able to work. 821 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:16,347 I'd just be in a rubber room somewhere because it's insane. 822 00:50:17,056 --> 00:50:19,642 Because this video, as much as we slow it down 823 00:50:19,726 --> 00:50:22,312 and take some of these other cameras out of the way, 824 00:50:22,854 --> 00:50:26,775 still, it could have been a thousand men that walked in that hour 825 00:50:26,858 --> 00:50:29,694 and that's assuming that he's coming in the store 826 00:50:29,778 --> 00:50:32,322 and leaving the store shortly before the purchase 827 00:50:32,405 --> 00:50:33,907 and directly after the purchase. 828 00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:36,993 There's no way I can find anything from this tape. 829 00:50:37,076 --> 00:50:38,453 It's impossible. 830 00:50:38,536 --> 00:50:40,705 I don't know where to go with this anymore. 831 00:50:40,789 --> 00:50:42,248 It's been four months. 832 00:50:42,332 --> 00:50:44,125 Four months of hard work! 833 00:50:46,503 --> 00:50:48,755 So at this point, I'm at a dead end again. 834 00:50:48,838 --> 00:50:54,594 Then I get a call from Buddy Stump of the Mount Washington Police Department. 835 00:50:55,345 --> 00:50:59,015 Finally one day, first thing I do, I call Vic Flaherty. 836 00:51:00,934 --> 00:51:02,352 [phone ringing] 837 00:51:02,435 --> 00:51:06,606 I picked up the phone and you can tell he's not from Boston. 838 00:51:06,689 --> 00:51:09,442 I'm the kind of guy there's no sense reinventing the wheel. 839 00:51:09,526 --> 00:51:13,071 I knew that my phone call had came from Panama City. 840 00:51:13,154 --> 00:51:14,989 The detective there advised me 841 00:51:15,073 --> 00:51:17,909 that there was a case in, uh, Massachusetts, 842 00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:20,036 very much like our case. 843 00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:22,872 I needed to contact this Detective Vic Flaherty. 844 00:51:23,623 --> 00:51:25,542 [Victor] He's telling me what he has. 845 00:51:25,625 --> 00:51:27,752 Obviously, he's from a real small department… 846 00:51:27,836 --> 00:51:30,213 We're a small department, but this is a real small one. 847 00:51:30,296 --> 00:51:34,092 He was surprised there was somebody that had got as far as he had gotten. 848 00:51:34,717 --> 00:51:36,719 He's very passionate about it. 849 00:51:36,803 --> 00:51:39,430 I was bouncing off the walls. I was tickled to death. 850 00:51:40,306 --> 00:51:42,392 I didn't feel like I was a lone ranger anymore. 851 00:51:42,475 --> 00:51:48,940 Somebody there had the same drive to try to find this guy that I did. 852 00:51:50,149 --> 00:51:52,443 [Victor] I was excited to hear and talk with Buddy 853 00:51:52,527 --> 00:51:54,320 because it's a brand new case. 854 00:51:54,404 --> 00:51:56,781 Now we have fresh information and… 855 00:51:56,865 --> 00:51:58,908 "I've been told that you can help me 856 00:51:58,992 --> 00:52:01,411 try to figure out how to track this calling card." 857 00:52:01,494 --> 00:52:03,788 [Victor] I said, "Just send that information to me 858 00:52:03,872 --> 00:52:05,164 and I'll get it to you quicker 859 00:52:05,248 --> 00:52:09,836 because I can trace back where the calling card was purchased." 860 00:52:09,919 --> 00:52:11,296 And I went from thinking, 861 00:52:12,338 --> 00:52:15,842 "I don't know if we can solve this case" to "Hell yes, we can solve this case." 862 00:52:20,263 --> 00:52:23,600 So I call my favorite lady at AT&T 863 00:52:23,683 --> 00:52:26,686 and say, "You're never gonna guess. Another incident." 864 00:52:26,769 --> 00:52:31,274 "Even more horrific, and without a doubt, it's the same person." 865 00:52:32,275 --> 00:52:36,029 AT&T is telling me the calling card used in the Mount Washington hoax 866 00:52:36,112 --> 00:52:40,199 was purchased at a different Walmart store than the one from mine. 867 00:52:41,451 --> 00:52:45,955 So I call Walmart. The first question I asked, "Do we have register video?" 868 00:52:46,539 --> 00:52:47,749 And they said, "Yes." 869 00:52:48,458 --> 00:52:51,044 It was like, "You're kidding me?" "Nope, we have it." 870 00:52:51,127 --> 00:52:52,587 I said, "All right. Pull the tapes." 871 00:52:54,213 --> 00:52:57,383 A few days later, I get a VHS tape. 872 00:52:57,967 --> 00:52:59,510 I push play… 873 00:53:01,638 --> 00:53:03,932 I knew that the purchase was at 3:02, 874 00:53:05,141 --> 00:53:06,851 then creeped it forward a little bit. 875 00:53:08,311 --> 00:53:10,563 So then, the suspect walks into the picture. 876 00:53:12,899 --> 00:53:14,817 I see him putting the stuff on the counter. 877 00:53:16,903 --> 00:53:20,156 A white male between 30 and 40, 878 00:53:21,282 --> 00:53:23,409 about 6 feet tall, black hair. 879 00:53:24,744 --> 00:53:27,372 You could see something flat on the belt, 880 00:53:28,164 --> 00:53:29,666 what appeared to be a calling card. 881 00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:33,169 I looked at him, I went "Oh, my God," 882 00:53:33,252 --> 00:53:36,047 and it was a really good picture. Really good picture. 883 00:53:39,592 --> 00:53:42,053 And I'm like, "Holy cow. We now have him." 884 00:53:43,429 --> 00:53:45,306 We have a picture of the suspect. 885 00:53:47,517 --> 00:53:49,477 He purchased the calling card 886 00:53:50,061 --> 00:53:55,316 that was used to hoax Mount Washington, no doubt. 887 00:53:56,901 --> 00:53:57,986 Right there on TV. 888 00:53:59,529 --> 00:54:00,613 This is a huge break. 889 00:54:01,447 --> 00:54:05,284 Call Buddy, and tell him, "You know, we have a photo of him." 890 00:54:05,368 --> 00:54:06,494 I was excited. 891 00:54:06,577 --> 00:54:08,371 Three hundred million people in the country 892 00:54:08,454 --> 00:54:10,164 and I got it down to one guy in a Walmart. 893 00:54:10,248 --> 00:54:12,875 I'm ready to kick it into overdrive. I'm ready to go. 894 00:54:14,961 --> 00:54:17,630 [Victor] The problem was, those videos are from above. 895 00:54:17,714 --> 00:54:20,049 It's not the greatest picture of his face. 896 00:54:20,717 --> 00:54:23,386 How are we gonna try to identify this person? 897 00:54:23,469 --> 00:54:25,680 We have to get the best view of him. 898 00:54:26,472 --> 00:54:29,767 So we decided that now we have to go back to my tape 899 00:54:29,851 --> 00:54:33,021 because my tape is entrance and exits. 900 00:54:33,813 --> 00:54:35,857 The camera is straight on. 901 00:54:35,940 --> 00:54:38,985 So if we find him there, we're going to get a great picture of him. 902 00:54:39,068 --> 00:54:40,445 So here we go again. 903 00:54:40,528 --> 00:54:44,532 We're back in a 12-by-12 room 904 00:54:44,615 --> 00:54:47,660 with six monitors going, getting a headache, 905 00:54:47,744 --> 00:54:51,914 but we knew who we were looking for, and all of a sudden, 906 00:54:52,623 --> 00:54:53,583 bang. 907 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,838 He walked in. 908 00:55:00,089 --> 00:55:00,923 Same guy. 909 00:55:02,175 --> 00:55:04,635 The minute he came in, I went, "That's him." 910 00:55:05,094 --> 00:55:06,429 Just like that. I knew it. 911 00:55:08,765 --> 00:55:11,559 He walks in with a jacket on, sunglasses, 912 00:55:12,268 --> 00:55:14,645 and he looks like he's just ready to go to work, 913 00:55:14,729 --> 00:55:16,939 or coming back from work, very neat. 914 00:55:17,565 --> 00:55:21,360 I notice a braid on the side of his pants. 915 00:55:22,737 --> 00:55:24,030 I'm like, "What the fuck?" 916 00:55:27,283 --> 00:55:28,910 That braid on the side of pants, 917 00:55:29,994 --> 00:55:30,995 it's police. 918 00:55:33,664 --> 00:55:34,540 He's a cop.