1
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Man: between your
neck and cheek.

2
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And then use your body weight
to really lob it forward.

3
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And then just push
forward, okay?

4
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Give it a go. That's
easy enough. Alright.

5
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Back? That's it.

6
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Oh, wow!

7
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This is, like, day
one. That was amazing.

8
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Alison: Luckily, the pesky
pooch was found unharmed.

9
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Hopefully he learnt a valuable
lesson, along with his owners.

10
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Alison Fan, 7 Nightly News.

11
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Mum?

12
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Hey! Hey.

13
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What are you doing here?

14
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I finished early. Are
we still on for dinner?

15
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Oh, you bet. Um, I'll
just finish up here.

16
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Are you still getting wine?

17
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Yeah, sure. What sort?

18
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As long as I'm doing
stories about lost dogs,

19
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any wine is good wine.

20
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I thought you might
be back on Claremont.

21
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Why?

22
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I heard a rumor.

23
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It all seemed pretty hush-hush,

24
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but it sounded like
there's a team back on it.

25
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Huh.

26
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What the hell are
you doing out here?

27
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Took me three days to find you.

28
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Why are you looking?

29
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Cold Case Squad has
reopened Claremont.

30
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There's no one from Macro.

31
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Apparently they're
the new breed.

32
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They've all got
forensic training.

33
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And why are you telling me?

34
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Don't you want in?

35
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I spent six years on Claremont.

36
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Look where it got me.

37
00:02:02,570 --> 00:02:04,572
Don't you wanna findthe guy?

38
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I mean, are you really happy
out here with all the cows?

39
00:02:15,756 --> 00:02:18,724
Sarah Spiers is still missing.

40
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I'm sorry.

41
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Hi.

42
00:03:04,977 --> 00:03:06,358
Mosman Park?

43
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Okay.

44
00:04:14,737 --> 00:04:17,049
- Who's this?
- He insisted on being let in.

45
00:04:17,084 --> 00:04:18,810
Gavin Wyatt. He's
driven in from...

46
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I worked on the
original Macro team.

47
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I want to join you.

48
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I'm sorry. I know
everything about this case.

49
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Yeah, that's the problem.

50
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We're starting with a clean
slate, out of the public eye.

51
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Okay, well, maybe I can
help short-cut stuff.

52
00:04:34,032 --> 00:04:36,379
Instead of having to re-read
everything, I can tell you.

53
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I'm sorry. It's...
It's not gonna work.

54
00:04:39,762 --> 00:04:42,730
Alison Fan found me
way out in the country.

55
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It's only a matter of
time before she finds out

56
00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:46,734
what you're doing.

57
00:04:46,769 --> 00:04:48,840
You're obviously doing
this on the quiet.

58
00:04:48,874 --> 00:04:51,463
Do the bosses know
you've reopened the case?

59
00:04:51,498 --> 00:04:53,672
Well, it's a cold case.
We're allowed to reopen...

60
00:04:53,707 --> 00:04:55,132
Yeah, but I bet they
don't know you've reopened

61
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this particular can of worms.

62
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The most famous
unsolved murder case

63
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in West Australian history.

64
00:05:03,510 --> 00:05:05,073
And I bet there'd be a
few noses out of joint

65
00:05:05,097 --> 00:05:06,892
if the old Macro
hierarchy finds out

66
00:05:06,927 --> 00:05:09,170
you're questioning
their approach.

67
00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:16,454
Maybe he can explain
the fire poker.

68
00:05:16,488 --> 00:05:18,363
Dave: Why was Macro so sure
that Lance Williams' poker

69
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was the murder weapon?

70
00:05:19,905 --> 00:05:21,642
Well, once I noticed it
missing from Lance's flat,

71
00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:24,979
we bought an identical
poker and sent it to London.

72
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A pathologist at
the Royal College

73
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confirmed the poker fitted
the wound to Ciara's skull.

74
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Yeah, he was wrong.

75
00:05:31,952 --> 00:05:34,679
We found Lance's poker.

76
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Where? Queensland.

77
00:05:36,784 --> 00:05:39,131
Well, Lance has never been
to Queensland.Exactly.

78
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We tracked down the woman
who sold the flat to Lance.

79
00:05:41,064 --> 00:05:43,964
She meant to leave the whole
set behind with the fireplace,

80
00:05:43,998 --> 00:05:47,070
but somehow the poker was
packed up by the removalists.

81
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You guys never followed this up?

82
00:05:49,176 --> 00:05:50,902
It fitted so perfectly.

83
00:05:50,936 --> 00:05:54,215
It made sense that she was...

84
00:05:54,250 --> 00:05:56,148
Alright, well, hang on a sec.

85
00:05:56,183 --> 00:05:59,980
What caused the wound
to Ciara's head, then?

86
00:06:00,014 --> 00:06:01,740
Wasn't a wound.

87
00:06:04,122 --> 00:06:06,745
You know, everyone assumes
Claremont was my worst case.

88
00:06:06,780 --> 00:06:09,576
My worst case was a
Christmas Day murder.

89
00:06:09,610 --> 00:06:10,818
There was blood everywhere.

90
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Over presents, the manger.

91
00:06:12,717 --> 00:06:14,891
That indentation?

92
00:06:14,926 --> 00:06:16,721
She was hit over the
back of the head.

93
00:06:16,755 --> 00:06:17,756
No, she wasn't.

94
00:06:17,791 --> 00:06:19,137
I was wrong.

95
00:06:19,171 --> 00:06:22,589
This is a Wormian bone.

96
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What's a Wormian bone?

97
00:06:24,004 --> 00:06:25,568
It's a naturally
occurring skull formation

98
00:06:25,592 --> 00:06:27,732
that can look like a fracture.

99
00:06:27,766 --> 00:06:31,149
And no one noticed
this until now?

100
00:06:31,183 --> 00:06:33,772
Well, once the poker was
dismissed as a murder weapon,

101
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we asked the pathologist
to review her findings.

102
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She called in an anthropologist.

103
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And that means what exactly?

104
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Lance Williams is not the
Claremont serial killer.

105
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He has to be.

106
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Okay, he was out on the street
every night, stalking girls.

107
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He fits every profile.

108
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A loner. The prostitutes.

109
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He failed the lie detector test.

110
00:06:53,171 --> 00:06:55,207
There is not one
shred of evidence

111
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that connects Lance
to the murders.

112
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There's no blood in his house,
on his car, on his clothes.

113
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No fibers, no hair.

114
00:07:02,767 --> 00:07:04,251
Nikki: And none of
his DNA was found

115
00:07:04,285 --> 00:07:05,632
anywhere at the crime scenes.

116
00:07:05,666 --> 00:07:07,841
Then why did the crimes stop?

117
00:07:07,875 --> 00:07:10,602
The second we started
following Lance, they stopped.

118
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No more girls were taken.

119
00:07:12,086 --> 00:07:14,261
If I was a serial killer
and I knew the police

120
00:07:14,295 --> 00:07:16,712
had a suspect...

121
00:07:16,746 --> 00:07:19,024
dumbest thing I can
do is kill again.

122
00:07:29,034 --> 00:07:31,554
You still wanna work with us?

123
00:07:50,642 --> 00:07:52,264
Are you sure you want back in

124
00:07:52,299 --> 00:07:54,173
if they're just gonna pour
shit on everything we did?

125
00:07:54,197 --> 00:07:56,165
They're smart, Bobbi.

126
00:07:56,199 --> 00:07:59,996
Dave's DNA-trained, and
Nikki's a fiber expert.

127
00:08:00,031 --> 00:08:01,964
They've thrown out
the suspect book.

128
00:08:01,998 --> 00:08:03,655
It's all about the evidence.

129
00:08:03,690 --> 00:08:06,762
You're gonna solve
Australia's biggest cold case

130
00:08:06,796 --> 00:08:08,660
with three detectives?

131
00:08:11,214 --> 00:08:13,941
Sorry. Now it sounds like
<i>I'm</i> the one pouring shit.

132
00:08:15,218 --> 00:08:19,119
I hope you find
him. I really do.

133
00:08:19,153 --> 00:08:21,535
You miss it, don't you?

134
00:08:21,570 --> 00:08:23,675
Unh-unh, unh-unh.

135
00:08:23,710 --> 00:08:25,884
I've moved on.
Corporate's good.

136
00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:27,092
It is.

137
00:08:30,579 --> 00:08:32,373
Some things...

138
00:08:35,307 --> 00:08:38,828
maybe it's easier to
leave them behind.

139
00:08:38,863 --> 00:08:41,969
Yeah.

140
00:08:42,004 --> 00:08:44,109
I'm gonna find him, Bobbi.

141
00:08:44,144 --> 00:08:46,008
Even if it kills me.

142
00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,082
Make sure it doesn't.

143
00:08:53,878 --> 00:08:56,397
Ciara's missing thumbnail
and middle finger.

144
00:08:56,432 --> 00:08:58,676
I remember.

145
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All that's left where the
nail was are three red dots.

146
00:09:00,988 --> 00:09:02,714
Yeah, blood.

147
00:09:02,749 --> 00:09:05,130
So she's clawing at him so
hard her nail has ripped off.

148
00:09:05,165 --> 00:09:07,005
You'd think she'd have to
scrape some of his skin.

149
00:09:07,029 --> 00:09:09,928
Yeah, but the nail was never
found at the crime scene.

150
00:09:09,963 --> 00:09:12,586
Caught in his clothes,
fell off somewhere else?

151
00:09:14,795 --> 00:09:18,074
Was any of the
remaining nail tested?

152
00:09:18,109 --> 00:09:20,249
Yes, we tested everything,
and I mean everything.

153
00:09:20,283 --> 00:09:22,320
Every jar, every scrap of nail.

154
00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:25,772
Some went to New
Zealand, some to the FBI.

155
00:09:25,806 --> 00:09:27,256
We tested every
single one of these.

156
00:09:27,290 --> 00:09:29,776
- There's nothing else.
- What about AJM40?

157
00:09:29,810 --> 00:09:32,157
It doesn't appear on
any of the test results.

158
00:09:32,192 --> 00:09:35,367
AJM... 40.

159
00:09:35,402 --> 00:09:37,784
Uh, AJM40.

160
00:09:37,818 --> 00:09:40,096
Let's see here.

161
00:09:40,131 --> 00:09:42,754
Aha! That's why.

162
00:09:42,789 --> 00:09:44,894
"Debris only. Not
suitable for analysis."

163
00:09:49,968 --> 00:09:51,383
Why not?

164
00:09:51,418 --> 00:09:53,972
Well, because at the
time, there wasn't enough

165
00:09:54,007 --> 00:09:56,181
in there to test.

166
00:09:56,216 --> 00:09:59,219
I think there might
be enough now.

167
00:09:59,253 --> 00:10:02,671
For his services to
Little Athletics,

168
00:10:02,705 --> 00:10:04,258
Bradley Edwards.

169
00:10:04,293 --> 00:10:05,777
Woman: Well done.

170
00:10:05,812 --> 00:10:07,434
Man: You did a good job.

171
00:10:21,690 --> 00:10:23,243
London lab called. It worked.

172
00:10:24,382 --> 00:10:26,073
Fax coming through now.

173
00:10:30,768 --> 00:10:33,046
They extracted two DNA sets.

174
00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,496
The first belonged to Ciara...

175
00:10:35,531 --> 00:10:37,222
the other to an unknown male.

176
00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,095
We've got his DNA. We've got
the Claremont killer's DNA.

177
00:10:58,899 --> 00:11:01,108
Can we have a word
with Lance, please?

178
00:11:01,143 --> 00:11:02,903
Man on TV: <i>winning
a brand-new car.</i>

179
00:11:02,938 --> 00:11:04,802
When is this gonna stop?

180
00:11:04,836 --> 00:11:06,942
He's only just out of hospital.

181
00:11:06,976 --> 00:11:09,185
Depression, anxiety.

182
00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:11,498
Huh! No wonder.

183
00:11:11,532 --> 00:11:14,018
Mr. Williams.

184
00:11:14,052 --> 00:11:17,711
Uh, we wanted to tell you
officially that you're no longer

185
00:11:17,746 --> 00:11:20,231
a person of interest in
the Claremont matter.

186
00:11:23,544 --> 00:11:25,270
What does that mean?

187
00:11:25,305 --> 00:11:28,239
You won't be hearing
from us anymore.

188
00:11:34,555 --> 00:11:36,903
I'm sorry.

189
00:11:36,937 --> 00:11:38,525
<i></i> <i>Roger.</i>

190
00:11:41,045 --> 00:11:43,323
You were only doing your job.

191
00:11:46,533 --> 00:11:47,845
<i>Question four.</i>

192
00:11:50,571 --> 00:11:52,263
<i></i> <i>Jeffrey.</i>

193
00:11:52,297 --> 00:11:54,023
Jeffrey: <i>Pacific Ocean.</i>

194
00:11:54,058 --> 00:11:55,507
<i></i> <i>No.</i>

195
00:11:55,542 --> 00:11:56,864
<i>The correct answer
is the Indian Ocean.</i>

196
00:11:56,888 --> 00:11:58,338
<i>Question five.</i>

197
00:11:58,372 --> 00:12:00,052
<i>In which country would
you find the Sphinx?</i>

198
00:12:01,341 --> 00:12:04,793
The DNA isn't Lance Williams'.

199
00:12:04,827 --> 00:12:06,484
It's from the Karrakatta rapist.

200
00:12:06,518 --> 00:12:08,244
What?

201
00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:10,764
We tested the DNA against all
the original major suspects...

202
00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:12,455
the mayor, Steve Ross.

203
00:12:12,490 --> 00:12:13,802
Nothing.

204
00:12:13,836 --> 00:12:15,527
And then I remembered your case.

205
00:12:15,562 --> 00:12:17,081
Lisa. Karrakatta.

206
00:12:17,115 --> 00:12:18,289
And it matched?

207
00:12:18,323 --> 00:12:20,843
Well, it matched
Unknown Male #4.

208
00:12:22,327 --> 00:12:24,364
You were right, Bobbi...
Lisa was raped by the man

209
00:12:24,398 --> 00:12:26,953
who went on to become the
Claremont serial killer.Oh.

210
00:12:26,987 --> 00:12:29,818
I need you to come back in.

211
00:12:29,852 --> 00:12:31,302
Come on. Just to
talk to them, okay?

212
00:12:31,336 --> 00:12:32,544
You know this case backwards.

213
00:12:32,579 --> 00:12:34,305
You can tell them
better than me.

214
00:12:34,339 --> 00:12:36,134
No way. I'm out. I told you.

215
00:12:36,169 --> 00:12:38,136
This time, we are doing
everything by the book,

216
00:12:38,171 --> 00:12:40,035
and when we catch this guy,

217
00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:41,495
we're gonna need you
as a witness to present

218
00:12:41,519 --> 00:12:44,039
the statement you
took from Lisa in '96.

219
00:12:47,352 --> 00:12:49,941
Her name was Lisa
Todd. She was 17.

220
00:12:49,976 --> 00:12:51,287
A year before
Sarah went missing,

221
00:12:51,322 --> 00:12:53,048
she was partying in Claremont.

222
00:12:53,082 --> 00:12:55,982
On her way home, she was
grabbed from Rowe Park.

223
00:12:56,016 --> 00:12:59,502
She was taken to Karrakatta
Cemetery and raped.

224
00:12:59,537 --> 00:13:02,471
But the rape kit didn't match
anyone on file at the time.

225
00:13:02,505 --> 00:13:04,128
So this Unknown Male #4...

226
00:13:04,162 --> 00:13:06,164
Macro was onto him as a
suspect for Claremont.

227
00:13:06,199 --> 00:13:08,546
- What happened?
- Well, Lisa was a blitz attack.

228
00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:12,515
It was thought all three girls
willingly got into vehicles.

229
00:13:12,550 --> 00:13:15,242
Bobbi: These are the
shorts she was wearing.

230
00:13:15,277 --> 00:13:18,176
Her T-shirt, underwear, shoes.

231
00:13:18,211 --> 00:13:21,007
And this is the cord
he used to tie her.

232
00:13:21,041 --> 00:13:23,388
But we could never find any
evidence the Claremont killer

233
00:13:23,423 --> 00:13:26,875
tied up any of the three girls,
or attacked them from behind.

234
00:13:28,669 --> 00:13:30,913
What?

235
00:13:30,948 --> 00:13:33,951
We've gone back over Jane's
postmortem photographs.

236
00:13:33,985 --> 00:13:35,331
There's a mark on her wrist

237
00:13:35,366 --> 00:13:36,999
that suggests she might
have been tied up.

238
00:13:37,023 --> 00:13:38,990
But if the girls got into
the vehicle voluntarily,

239
00:13:39,025 --> 00:13:40,923
when did he tie them?
How would that work?

240
00:13:40,958 --> 00:13:42,925
We found other witnesses.

241
00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,661
Girls who accepted lifts
around the same time

242
00:13:44,685 --> 00:13:45,686
and had close calls.

243
00:13:45,721 --> 00:13:47,930
This one, Katrina Jones.

244
00:13:47,965 --> 00:13:49,967
Late 1995. She'd
been at a wedding.

245
00:13:50,001 --> 00:13:52,417
At 2:30 in the morning, she
was trying to get a lift.

246
00:13:52,452 --> 00:13:53,660
Bradley: You okay?

247
00:13:53,694 --> 00:13:55,869
No. As a matter
of fact, I'm not.

248
00:13:55,904 --> 00:13:58,009
He offered her a lift.
She said he seemed nice.

249
00:13:58,044 --> 00:13:59,390
Thanks so much.

250
00:13:59,424 --> 00:14:01,057
Nikki: She asked what
he did for a living.

251
00:14:01,081 --> 00:14:03,290
He said he was a Telstra
worker, like her brother.

252
00:14:03,325 --> 00:14:04,681
Dave: That's when
things went wrong.

253
00:14:04,705 --> 00:14:06,200
Nikki: Yeah, she said
she picked up vibes.

254
00:14:06,224 --> 00:14:07,881
She must have sensed
something was wrong

255
00:14:07,916 --> 00:14:09,272
because she got him to
drop her off five houses

256
00:14:09,296 --> 00:14:11,264
back from her car.

257
00:14:11,298 --> 00:14:14,923
Next minute, he was behind her.

258
00:14:19,962 --> 00:14:22,482
It's exactly what
happened to Lisa.

259
00:14:22,516 --> 00:14:25,071
She'd already told him she was
a blue belt in tae kwon do.

260
00:14:25,105 --> 00:14:26,313
He backed off.

261
00:14:26,348 --> 00:14:28,177
She tried to get
his number plate,

262
00:14:28,212 --> 00:14:29,637
but all she had to write
with was lipstick, so...

263
00:14:29,661 --> 00:14:31,491
- So when was this?
- Late '95.

264
00:14:31,525 --> 00:14:34,287
So after Karrakatta,
but before Sarah.

265
00:14:34,321 --> 00:14:36,013
So that's what
happened to Sarah.

266
00:14:36,047 --> 00:14:38,394
He actually drove her to
Mosman Park and let her out.

267
00:14:38,429 --> 00:14:40,569
Then he came up behind her.

268
00:14:40,603 --> 00:14:41,915
So these witnesses...

269
00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:43,641
they all got into
a Telstra vehicle?

270
00:14:43,675 --> 00:14:46,092
Or a white vehicle
consistent with that.

271
00:14:46,126 --> 00:14:48,059
We're calling them the
Telstra Living Witnesses.

272
00:14:48,094 --> 00:14:51,373
But after Karrakatta, we asked
Telstra for a list of drivers.

273
00:14:51,407 --> 00:14:52,995
We checked every single one.

274
00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:55,066
In '95, Telstra logos

275
00:14:55,101 --> 00:14:57,206
were being changed over
from the old Telecom.

276
00:14:57,241 --> 00:14:59,657
Macro asked for Telstra
drivers. That's what you got.

277
00:14:59,691 --> 00:15:01,659
If the killer was still
driving a Telecom vehicle,

278
00:15:01,693 --> 00:15:03,661
he missed the net.

279
00:15:05,214 --> 00:15:08,252
That is...

280
00:15:08,286 --> 00:15:09,736
unbelievable.

281
00:15:13,671 --> 00:15:16,501
But the problem then
is the problem now.

282
00:15:16,536 --> 00:15:18,710
The Karrakatta
rape was unsolved.

283
00:15:18,745 --> 00:15:21,196
How do we identify
Unknown Male #4?

284
00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:23,622
Well, for starters, we're asking
for a list of Telecom drivers

285
00:15:23,646 --> 00:15:25,579
from the '90s, but that
could take some time.

286
00:15:25,614 --> 00:15:27,409
So we're also running his sample

287
00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:29,583
against every
single piece of DNA

288
00:15:29,618 --> 00:15:31,206
that Macro ever collected.

289
00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,071
We DNA-tested 9,000 local men.

290
00:15:34,105 --> 00:15:37,005
Plus over 2,000 taxi
drivers and their cars.

291
00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:39,455
Yeah, so don't hold your breath.

292
00:15:41,595 --> 00:15:44,495
Gavin. Ah.

293
00:15:44,529 --> 00:15:46,566
What happened to that
update you promised me?

294
00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,774
We're still working on it.

295
00:15:47,808 --> 00:15:50,466
Do you have anything?

296
00:15:50,501 --> 00:15:52,744
Come on, Gav. I could
run with this any time.

297
00:15:52,779 --> 00:15:55,092
"Cold Case Unit secretly
reopens Claremont."

298
00:15:55,126 --> 00:15:56,783
It's a great story for me.

299
00:15:56,817 --> 00:15:58,681
It's one night.

300
00:15:58,716 --> 00:16:01,108
If you hold off, I'll give you
the biggest story of the year.

301
00:16:01,132 --> 00:16:03,652
When? Gav?

302
00:16:03,686 --> 00:16:06,241
You know, Sarah would
have been 38 this year,

303
00:16:06,275 --> 00:16:09,485
and that her dad's still
shearing 10 hours a day...

304
00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:10,831
so he never has to stop

305
00:16:10,866 --> 00:16:13,006
and think about his
missing daughter.

306
00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,481
Don. Carol.

307
00:16:45,694 --> 00:16:46,764
Sorry.

308
00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:49,456
It's not you.

309
00:16:49,491 --> 00:16:52,459
We've got his DNA.

310
00:16:52,494 --> 00:16:55,221
We've matched him to
a precursor crime.

311
00:16:55,255 --> 00:16:58,293
Now we've just gotta
match his DNA with a name.

312
00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:04,299
You know what I don't get?

313
00:17:04,333 --> 00:17:07,612
Someone out there
knows who it is.

314
00:17:07,647 --> 00:17:09,407
Someone who works with him.

315
00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:11,685
Someone who gave birth to him.

316
00:17:15,620 --> 00:17:17,450
Do they know?

317
00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:40,542
Alison: Hello?

318
00:17:40,576 --> 00:17:43,855
Alison. Got a pen and paper?

319
00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:47,411
It's been nearly 20 years since
Sarah Spiers went missing...

320
00:17:47,445 --> 00:17:50,345
the first victim of the
Claremont serial killer.

321
00:17:50,379 --> 00:17:51,587
Or <i>was</i> she?

322
00:17:51,622 --> 00:17:53,175
<i>In a sensational breakthrough,</i>

323
00:17:53,210 --> 00:17:54,728
<i>sources close to
police have revealed</i>

324
00:17:54,763 --> 00:17:57,110
<i>they have forensic
evidence linking the man</i>

325
00:17:57,145 --> 00:18:00,355
<i>who murdered Ciara Glennon
to an earlier victim.</i>

326
00:18:00,389 --> 00:18:03,185
<i>Her identity remains a
closely guarded secret.</i>

327
00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:05,498
If they've got the
forensic evidence,

328
00:18:05,532 --> 00:18:07,338
why can't they just arrest him?
<i>From the streets</i> <i>of Claremont</i>

329
00:18:07,362 --> 00:18:09,778
<i>and brutally raped in
Karrakatta Cemetery</i>

330
00:18:09,812 --> 00:18:11,952
<i>managed to escape.</i>

331
00:18:11,987 --> 00:18:14,507
<i>They now believe there may
have been earlier attacks,</i>

332
00:18:14,541 --> 00:18:16,888
<i>what they're calling
"precursor crimes."</i>

333
00:18:16,923 --> 00:18:18,797
<i>They're looking for young
women who were assaulted</i>

334
00:18:18,821 --> 00:18:20,927
<i>in the Claremont
area before Sarah...</i>

335
00:18:22,687 --> 00:18:25,897
I can give Maddie
a lift if you like.

336
00:18:25,932 --> 00:18:28,279
Ah, yes. Yeah, okay.

337
00:18:28,314 --> 00:18:30,937
Oh, have you thought
more about her 21st?

338
00:18:30,971 --> 00:18:34,423
Well, thinking about it's one
thing, but how do we pay for it?

339
00:18:34,458 --> 00:18:36,667
I don't understand why
we're always so short.

340
00:18:36,701 --> 00:18:38,817
You know, we're both working.
I'm not spending it on anything.

341
00:18:38,841 --> 00:18:40,498
So where's it all going?

342
00:18:41,948 --> 00:18:44,295
Hey, Dad, can I grab
a lift to uni today?

343
00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:45,538
Yeah, sure, but I'm going now.

344
00:18:45,572 --> 00:18:46,780
- Yeah, I'm ready.
- Okay.

345
00:18:46,815 --> 00:18:48,230
See ya, Mum.

346
00:18:48,265 --> 00:18:50,853
Bye.

347
00:18:50,888 --> 00:18:52,338
Brad?

348
00:18:52,372 --> 00:18:55,341
We need to talk about this.

349
00:19:08,008 --> 00:19:10,425
It's in all the papers,
all over the TV.

350
00:19:10,459 --> 00:19:11,874
You've completely
blown our cover.

351
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:13,807
Someone needed to put a
rocket under the case.

352
00:19:13,842 --> 00:19:15,740
This will get us
blasted out of the job.

353
00:19:15,775 --> 00:19:17,811
But now we're actually
getting calls.

354
00:19:17,846 --> 00:19:21,367
Other women who were picked up
in Claremont at the same time.

355
00:19:21,401 --> 00:19:22,851
Crime Stoppers is
getting hammered.

356
00:19:22,885 --> 00:19:24,380
Yeah, and who's gonna
process all the leads

357
00:19:24,404 --> 00:19:27,580
if we get fired, hmm?

358
00:19:35,657 --> 00:19:36,934
Santos.

359
00:19:36,968 --> 00:19:38,453
Yep.

360
00:19:38,487 --> 00:19:40,040
Yep, he's here.

361
00:19:40,075 --> 00:19:41,594
It's the boss.

362
00:19:43,492 --> 00:19:45,391
Medcalf.

363
00:19:45,425 --> 00:19:48,256
Yes, sir.

364
00:19:48,290 --> 00:19:50,430
No, I understand.

365
00:19:50,465 --> 00:19:51,845
Yes.

366
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,504
Yes, I should have
consulted you.

367
00:19:55,539 --> 00:19:57,265
Okay.

368
00:20:01,303 --> 00:20:03,063
Are we fired?

369
00:20:03,098 --> 00:20:05,342
No.

370
00:20:05,376 --> 00:20:07,965
No, he's, uh... He's
giving us more people.

371
00:21:56,418 --> 00:21:59,594
Thanks. Thanks, Julie.

372
00:21:59,628 --> 00:22:01,837
We are getting dozens of
calls about Claremont.

373
00:22:01,872 --> 00:22:03,805
- From who?
- Women who accepted lifts

374
00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:05,013
from white cars in the '90s

375
00:22:05,047 --> 00:22:06,946
and never came forward. Why not?

376
00:22:06,980 --> 00:22:08,786
With all the Lance Williams
talk in the papers,

377
00:22:08,810 --> 00:22:10,432
they thought you
already had the guy.

378
00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:13,055
But, God, it's been so long
now, no one can ID him.

379
00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:14,850
Any news from the DNA tests?

380
00:22:14,885 --> 00:22:16,863
We've checked the sample against
every single piece of DNA

381
00:22:16,887 --> 00:22:19,165
on the West Australian
database... nothing.

382
00:22:19,199 --> 00:22:21,616
We have to wait for
the international

383
00:22:21,650 --> 00:22:23,031
and national requests now.

384
00:22:23,065 --> 00:22:25,516
That'll take months.
How can we be so close?

385
00:22:25,551 --> 00:22:26,804
We've got his DNA,
for God's sake.

386
00:22:26,828 --> 00:22:28,761
Is there anything
else we can do?

387
00:22:32,661 --> 00:22:35,008
We want to test Jane's
hair for fibers.

388
00:22:35,043 --> 00:22:37,528
Jane had been to the hairdresser
the morning before her death,

389
00:22:37,563 --> 00:22:39,599
so any fibers in her
hair can be narrowed down

390
00:22:39,634 --> 00:22:41,187
to having got there after that.

391
00:22:41,221 --> 00:22:42,992
You're hoping to find
something from the perpetrator?

392
00:22:43,016 --> 00:22:44,432
Well, it's a long shot, we know,

393
00:22:44,466 --> 00:22:45,823
but the paperwork
says you collected

394
00:22:45,847 --> 00:22:48,436
Jane's entire hair mass
during the postmortem?

395
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:50,507
We've searched Trace.
It's not there, so...

396
00:22:50,541 --> 00:22:54,511
Because I sent it to
Toxicology, not Trace.

397
00:22:54,545 --> 00:22:56,789
At the time, I wanted
to test for drugs.

398
00:22:56,823 --> 00:22:58,594
I thought maybe she'd been
administered something

399
00:22:58,618 --> 00:22:59,964
to knock her out.

400
00:22:59,999 --> 00:23:03,209
- So it's still at Tox?
- As far as I know.

401
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,834
Right, what am I looking
at? Isn't it obvious?

402
00:23:07,869 --> 00:23:09,871
To someone with a
PhD in fibers, sure.

403
00:23:09,905 --> 00:23:11,459
Let's just pretend
that's not me.

404
00:23:11,493 --> 00:23:15,083
Okay. So this is a fiber
we found in Jane's hair.

405
00:23:15,117 --> 00:23:17,879
The Forensic guys managed
to extract 20 of these.

406
00:23:17,913 --> 00:23:19,156
Do we know what they are?

407
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:20,985
Well, some, we have no idea.

408
00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:22,573
Fibers you can't
match with anything.

409
00:23:22,608 --> 00:23:25,058
But this one, this has
a name... Blue Graphite.

410
00:23:25,093 --> 00:23:27,923
And it matches the
upholstery of a...

411
00:23:27,958 --> 00:23:29,546
cheers...

412
00:23:29,580 --> 00:23:32,031
Holden Commodore V6
Series 1 station wagon.

413
00:23:32,065 --> 00:23:33,688
Why do I know that vehicle?

414
00:23:33,722 --> 00:23:35,044
Because it's the vehicle
the Burger Boys described

415
00:23:35,068 --> 00:23:36,691
seeing the night
Ciara was taken.

416
00:23:36,725 --> 00:23:38,589
Man: Check her out.

417
00:23:38,624 --> 00:23:40,557
It was a white,
late-model Series 1

418
00:23:40,591 --> 00:23:42,144
VS Holden station wagon.

419
00:23:42,179 --> 00:23:44,259
Did Macro look for Holden
station wagons at the time?

420
00:23:44,284 --> 00:23:45,803
Yep, but that search was shelved

421
00:23:45,838 --> 00:23:47,771
once we started
focusing on Lance.

422
00:23:47,805 --> 00:23:49,773
He drove a Toyota Camry.

423
00:23:51,878 --> 00:23:53,570
So is this it? One fiber?

424
00:23:53,604 --> 00:23:55,744
No. Other fibers collected
match a different carpet

425
00:23:55,779 --> 00:23:57,919
made especially for the
cargo area of Holdens.

426
00:23:57,953 --> 00:24:00,024
Suggesting Jane was
in the cargo area

427
00:24:00,059 --> 00:24:02,475
sometime after her visit
to the hairdresser.

428
00:24:02,510 --> 00:24:04,960
Yeah, and there's more.
Fibers found on Ciara

429
00:24:04,995 --> 00:24:08,688
match the carpet from
the same make of car.

430
00:24:08,723 --> 00:24:11,311
We're going car
hunting, boys and girls.

431
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:37,717
Bradley: I gotta
tell you something.

432
00:24:37,752 --> 00:24:39,312
You getting cold feet
about the wedding?

433
00:24:40,755 --> 00:24:42,688
I got a criminal record.

434
00:24:44,241 --> 00:24:45,587
Wh...

435
00:24:45,622 --> 00:24:49,315
After my first
wife cheated on me,

436
00:24:49,349 --> 00:24:52,076
I had...

437
00:24:52,111 --> 00:24:53,526
I just... I
couldn't handle it.

438
00:24:53,561 --> 00:24:55,632
I had a brain snap.

439
00:24:55,666 --> 00:24:56,978
What happened?

440
00:24:57,012 --> 00:24:58,738
There was this woman
at work, and...

441
00:24:58,773 --> 00:25:00,706
I took it out on her.

442
00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:02,293
Sexually?

443
00:25:02,328 --> 00:25:03,950
No, no, it was
nothing like that.

444
00:25:03,985 --> 00:25:06,850
They called it a common
assault. It was stupid.

445
00:25:06,884 --> 00:25:08,541
I don't know what came over me.

446
00:25:08,576 --> 00:25:10,854
It was like I just
snapped, you know?

447
00:25:12,027 --> 00:25:15,997
It was so dumb.
It was so dumb.

448
00:25:16,031 --> 00:25:19,725
I just wanted you to know
before we got married.

449
00:25:21,036 --> 00:25:23,763
Hey. Hey!

450
00:25:23,798 --> 00:25:25,593
I just feel so ashamed.

451
00:25:27,077 --> 00:25:30,701
Hey. Hey, it's
okay. It's alright.

452
00:25:30,736 --> 00:25:33,635
I just wanted to
be honest with you.

453
00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:35,948
Okay. It's alright.

454
00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:48,788
We went through car
lots, wrecking yards.

455
00:25:48,823 --> 00:25:51,411
Took apart every '96 V6
Commodore we could find.

456
00:25:51,446 --> 00:25:53,034
Nothing?

457
00:25:53,068 --> 00:25:54,794
And nothing from trying
to check the workers

458
00:25:54,829 --> 00:25:57,417
who drove Telecom cars. They
no longer have the records.

459
00:25:57,452 --> 00:25:59,419
It has been 20 years.

460
00:25:59,454 --> 00:26:02,319
Yeah.

461
00:26:02,353 --> 00:26:05,322
Hey, are you seeing anyone?

462
00:26:05,356 --> 00:26:08,394
What? No.

463
00:26:08,428 --> 00:26:10,327
Pick up some random
for the fun of it?

464
00:26:10,361 --> 00:26:15,021
No, just try to have some sort
of life outside this case.

465
00:26:15,953 --> 00:26:18,922
Did I tell you we didn't get
a DNA match from interstate?

466
00:26:18,956 --> 00:26:21,141
It's amazing. This guy just
does not have a criminal record.

467
00:26:21,165 --> 00:26:23,305
He has to. No one starts
with rape and murder.

468
00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:24,869
There has to be some
sort of apprenticeship.

469
00:26:24,893 --> 00:26:27,171
Something even
before Karrakatta.

470
00:26:29,449 --> 00:26:32,176
What?

471
00:26:32,211 --> 00:26:34,109
You just gave me an idea.

472
00:26:38,217 --> 00:26:41,220
Hey, come here. Come here.

473
00:26:41,254 --> 00:26:44,361
What if this guy was involved in
a minor crime and pled guilty?

474
00:26:44,395 --> 00:26:47,191
It's possible his DNA was
collected but never tested.

475
00:26:47,226 --> 00:26:49,135
'Cause the police didn't
have to prove his guilt.

476
00:26:49,159 --> 00:26:51,817
Exactly. We need to go
back through the old files.

477
00:26:51,851 --> 00:26:54,060
Any sexual offense pre-1995.

478
00:26:54,095 --> 00:26:56,442
Okay.

479
00:27:07,246 --> 00:27:09,420
This box shouldn't even be here.

480
00:27:13,459 --> 00:27:15,081
This isn't even a sex crime.

481
00:27:15,116 --> 00:27:18,050
It's some kind of standover
operation in the '90s.

482
00:27:20,017 --> 00:27:21,467
What's Huntingdale?

483
00:27:26,368 --> 00:27:29,233
Uh...

484
00:27:29,268 --> 00:27:32,409
Looks like a series of break-ins
in and around Huntingdale.

485
00:27:32,443 --> 00:27:34,929
Women's underwear being
stolen off the line.

486
00:27:34,963 --> 00:27:37,863
Frequent sightings of a
prowler breaking into houses.

487
00:27:37,897 --> 00:27:39,392
Yeah, that was found
at one of the assaults.

488
00:27:39,416 --> 00:27:44,248
A... stocking used as
a gag and bindings.

489
00:27:44,283 --> 00:27:45,905
The attacker brought
those with him?

490
00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:48,839
Mm.

491
00:27:48,874 --> 00:27:51,359
Mostly rapists don't
come with restraints.

492
00:27:53,499 --> 00:27:55,846
The Karrakatta rapist did.

493
00:28:14,865 --> 00:28:18,904
That's it. That's
what he was wearing.

494
00:28:18,938 --> 00:28:21,803
Dave: This was,
uh, February 1988?

495
00:28:21,838 --> 00:28:23,805
Valentine's Day.

496
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,049
Do you remember
what he looked like?

497
00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:29,466
No! No!

498
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,882
No, I didn't see his face.

499
00:28:31,917 --> 00:28:34,264
Uh, Gavin?

500
00:28:34,298 --> 00:28:35,886
Excuse me.

501
00:28:38,509 --> 00:28:40,580
We just had a call
from PathWest.

502
00:28:40,615 --> 00:28:42,893
They got a hit?
Semen on the kimono.

503
00:28:42,928 --> 00:28:44,112
It matches both the
Karrakatta rapist

504
00:28:44,136 --> 00:28:46,103
and Ciara's left thumbnail.

505
00:29:01,325 --> 00:29:03,880
Is there anything else you can
tell us about your attacker?

506
00:29:03,914 --> 00:29:07,021
Anything that might
help identify him?

507
00:29:07,055 --> 00:29:09,333
Well, at the time, I had no
idea who the hell he was,

508
00:29:09,368 --> 00:29:13,821
but afterwards, when I started
to tell my story to people,

509
00:29:13,855 --> 00:29:15,477
everyone started
telling their own story

510
00:29:15,512 --> 00:29:18,584
about this guy being around
the neighborhood at the time.

511
00:29:18,618 --> 00:29:19,999
Other sexual assaults?

512
00:29:20,034 --> 00:29:23,037
No, mostly it was
pranking stuff.

513
00:29:23,071 --> 00:29:27,179
This guy would run around the
streets and break into houses.

514
00:29:27,213 --> 00:29:29,595
He'd wear women's
underwear on his head.

515
00:29:29,629 --> 00:29:31,321
Everyone thought it was funny.

516
00:29:31,355 --> 00:29:33,841
They used to call him
the Huntingdale Weirdo.

517
00:30:58,304 --> 00:31:00,030
The Huntingdale Weirdo.

518
00:31:00,065 --> 00:31:03,309
Geez, he got around. There
must be dozens of break-ins.

519
00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:05,691
We just need one
where he left prints.

520
00:31:12,042 --> 00:31:13,664
Hmm.

521
00:31:28,748 --> 00:31:31,751
Think I've found something.

522
00:31:31,786 --> 00:31:34,478
This was an attempt to break in
not too far from Kylee's house,

523
00:31:34,513 --> 00:31:36,273
and only a few days
after her attack.

524
00:31:36,308 --> 00:31:39,932
He left...

525
00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:42,038
He left prints, but
he didn't get in.

526
00:31:42,072 --> 00:31:44,972
Question is, do they match
anyone in the system?

527
00:31:52,151 --> 00:31:56,155
Bradley Robert Edwards. 1990.

528
00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:58,502
It's the only offense
ever recorded against him.

529
00:31:58,537 --> 00:32:00,056
Was it a sex crime?

530
00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:01,412
Apparently the file just
says "common assault,"

531
00:32:01,436 --> 00:32:03,335
which is why it wasn't
picked up earlier.

532
00:32:03,369 --> 00:32:06,614
Macro was only looking
for precursor sex crimes.

533
00:32:06,648 --> 00:32:09,272
Is there a witness?

534
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:16,935
There was nothing
"common" about it.

535
00:32:19,558 --> 00:32:21,422
I thought I was gonna die.

536
00:32:27,359 --> 00:32:31,466
I have no doubt... he
intended to rape me.

537
00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:36,264
The level of aggression...

538
00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:37,990
it was just insane.

539
00:32:40,613 --> 00:32:42,339
I was on the floor
with a gag in my mouth,

540
00:32:42,374 --> 00:32:45,446
being dragged to the toilets.

541
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,070
And you told all
this to the police?

542
00:32:49,105 --> 00:32:50,554
Yep.

543
00:32:55,766 --> 00:32:58,735
I'm sorry! I'm
sorry, I'm sorry!

544
00:32:58,769 --> 00:33:01,462
Everyone treated it
like it was nothing.

545
00:33:05,397 --> 00:33:08,572
I even had a meeting
with his boss.

546
00:33:08,607 --> 00:33:13,129
And they were saying,
"Oh, he's such a nice guy.

547
00:33:13,163 --> 00:33:14,520
He was having
relationship problems.

548
00:33:14,544 --> 00:33:17,202
He just had a brain snap."

549
00:33:19,445 --> 00:33:22,241
I mean, seriously, what kind
of guy turns up to a hospital

550
00:33:22,276 --> 00:33:23,794
in broad daylight
to fix your phones

551
00:33:23,829 --> 00:33:26,418
and tries to rape
a social worker?

552
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,151
I couldn't believe it was
being swept under the carpet.

553
00:33:35,185 --> 00:33:36,773
Fix the phones?

554
00:33:36,807 --> 00:33:39,155
Yeah.

555
00:33:39,189 --> 00:33:42,261
That's why he was there. He
was a Telstra technician.

556
00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:01,591
That's him. That's our killer.

557
00:34:01,625 --> 00:34:03,903
At the time of the
Huntingdale prowler attacks,

558
00:34:03,938 --> 00:34:06,423
he was an 18-year-old living
at home with his parents.

559
00:34:06,458 --> 00:34:07,735
This is their house.

560
00:34:07,769 --> 00:34:09,126
These are the houses
where break-ins

561
00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:10,669
or sightings were reported.

562
00:34:10,703 --> 00:34:12,705
This is the house where
Kylee Cosgrove was attacked

563
00:34:12,740 --> 00:34:15,536
and the kimono found.
Now, he knew this house.

564
00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:19,091
Wasn't too far from where
he lived with his parents.

565
00:34:19,126 --> 00:34:21,783
His vehicles match. At
the time of Karrakatta,

566
00:34:21,818 --> 00:34:24,579
he was driving a
Telecom Mitsubishi van.

567
00:34:24,614 --> 00:34:26,340
This matches the
description Lisa Todd

568
00:34:26,374 --> 00:34:30,206
gave of the cargo area she
was thrown into in '95.

569
00:34:32,725 --> 00:34:35,694
His next vehicle was a white
Toyota Camry station wagon,

570
00:34:35,728 --> 00:34:39,353
which Sarah Spiers may
have mistaken for a taxi.

571
00:34:39,387 --> 00:34:42,218
But in 1997, he
was driving this.

572
00:34:42,252 --> 00:34:45,152
A Holden Commodore V6
Series 1 station wagon...

573
00:34:45,186 --> 00:34:47,844
the exact vehicle the
Burger Boys described.

574
00:34:47,878 --> 00:34:49,846
And we found the car.

575
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,641
Miraculously, it's
still in operation.

576
00:34:51,675 --> 00:34:54,161
We've tracked it to a
plant nursery in Chidlow.

577
00:34:54,195 --> 00:34:55,552
The Burger Boys
described the wheels

578
00:34:55,576 --> 00:34:57,474
as having
teardrop-shaped cutouts.

579
00:34:57,509 --> 00:34:59,304
That wasn't standard
for that model Holden.

580
00:34:59,338 --> 00:35:02,445
We thought they got
it wrong. They didn't.

581
00:35:02,479 --> 00:35:06,276
Now, the question is...
when do we make our move?

582
00:35:06,311 --> 00:35:08,520
And are we absolutely
sure this is our man?

583
00:35:08,554 --> 00:35:11,316
And the big problem...
Did he stop after Ciara?

584
00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:14,457
- Why would he?
- He got married.

585
00:35:14,491 --> 00:35:16,838
We think this gave him
the stability he needed

586
00:35:16,873 --> 00:35:18,806
to put a stopper to the anger.

587
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,499
And if that is true, then
we have another problem,

588
00:35:22,534 --> 00:35:25,571
because it appears the second
wife has just moved out.

589
00:35:25,606 --> 00:35:27,711
So we need to move now.

590
00:36:21,696 --> 00:36:23,215
- Police! Don't move!
- On the ground!

591
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:25,044
- Down on your knees!
- Stay where you are!

592
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:26,770
Hands on your head!

593
00:36:30,878 --> 00:36:32,397
Hands behind your back.

594
00:36:32,431 --> 00:36:33,822
I have in my possession
a search warrant issued

595
00:36:33,846 --> 00:36:36,435
under the Criminal
Investigation Act.

596
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:38,920
Right, that's for you.

597
00:36:38,955 --> 00:36:40,898
Bradley Robert Edwards,
you are now being arrested

598
00:36:40,922 --> 00:36:43,004
on suspicion of the willful
murder of Ciara Glennon...

599
00:36:43,028 --> 00:36:44,650
What? What the... Jane Rimmer...

600
00:36:44,685 --> 00:36:46,041
and Sarah Spiers.
You gotta be joking.

601
00:36:46,065 --> 00:36:47,757
You're also being
arrested on suspicion

602
00:36:47,791 --> 00:36:50,656
of a break-in and assault
in Huntingdale in 1988,

603
00:36:50,691 --> 00:36:53,659
and a rape in Karrakatta
Cemetery in 1995.

604
00:36:53,694 --> 00:36:56,041
As a person arrested on
suspicion, you've got rights.

605
00:36:56,075 --> 00:36:57,708
I'm gonna go through
those rights with you now,

606
00:36:57,732 --> 00:37:00,494
okay, so listen carefully.
Do you have to speak to me?

607
00:37:00,528 --> 00:37:02,530
No.Are you aware that
this is being recorded?

608
00:37:02,565 --> 00:37:04,405
I'm just trying to process
what's going on.Okay.

609
00:37:04,429 --> 00:37:07,328
Is there any property here that
belongs to Ciara Glennon...

610
00:37:07,363 --> 00:37:09,296
What? Don't... Jane
Rimmer, or Sarah Spiers?

611
00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:10,997
Why would there be
anything like that here?

612
00:37:11,021 --> 00:37:13,679
Better get him out of here.
Press has got wind of this.

613
00:37:13,714 --> 00:37:16,095
Alright, get him out of here.
Can I just call my parents?

614
00:37:20,617 --> 00:37:22,274
Officer: Watch your step.

615
00:37:31,456 --> 00:37:33,596
Woman: Detective,
any comments?

616
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:37,738
Okay, go. Get out of here.

617
00:37:43,675 --> 00:37:45,791
Dave: You've got to find us
something from one of the girls,

618
00:37:45,815 --> 00:37:46,999
anything linking
Edwards to them.

619
00:37:47,023 --> 00:37:48,818
Ciara's brooch, Jane's clothes,

620
00:37:48,852 --> 00:37:50,854
Sarah, that... that key ring.

621
00:37:50,889 --> 00:37:52,349
A sunflower, yeah.
We'll find something.

622
00:37:52,373 --> 00:37:53,512
Is he lawyering up?

623
00:37:53,547 --> 00:37:54,867
Not yet. Said he
doesn't want one.

624
00:37:54,893 --> 00:37:56,308
Ring me when you've
got something.

625
00:37:56,343 --> 00:37:57,792
Yeah.

626
00:38:01,831 --> 00:38:04,005
You lead in there.

627
00:38:05,973 --> 00:38:07,733
You're about the same age.

628
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,945
Build up some rapport.

629
00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:16,811
Keep it friendly, and
let's make him sing.

630
00:38:22,541 --> 00:38:25,130
Oh, shit.

631
00:38:25,164 --> 00:38:27,822
You promised me the
biggest story of the year,

632
00:38:27,857 --> 00:38:31,170
and then I see some blond
bimbo reporting it live?

633
00:38:31,205 --> 00:38:32,793
I was gonna call you, Alison.

634
00:38:32,827 --> 00:38:35,451
I can't talk right now.

635
00:38:35,485 --> 00:38:37,660
Gavin?

636
00:38:37,694 --> 00:38:40,387
Reporter: <i>The police have not
yet issued</i> <i>an official statement.</i>

637
00:38:40,421 --> 00:38:42,354
Gavin: Okay.

638
00:38:52,468 --> 00:38:56,023
Okay. We just wanted to ask
you a couple of questions.

639
00:38:56,057 --> 00:38:57,783
Maybe we can just
start at the beginning?

640
00:38:57,818 --> 00:38:59,371
Sure.

641
00:38:59,406 --> 00:39:02,995
Why don't you tell us
about your childhood?

642
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:04,928
But what does my
childhood have to...

643
00:39:04,963 --> 00:39:06,827
Just to get to
know you, you know?

644
00:39:06,861 --> 00:39:10,796
Okay. We... We lived
in a van for a while

645
00:39:10,831 --> 00:39:14,144
because my dad was always
traveling for work,

646
00:39:14,179 --> 00:39:16,077
but, um, it was good, you know?

647
00:39:16,112 --> 00:39:17,631
We saw my parents'
friends a lot.

648
00:39:17,665 --> 00:39:20,392
Had barbecues on weekends.

649
00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:23,947
Pretty normal, just
growing-up stuff.

650
00:39:49,697 --> 00:39:51,250
And you wore glasses?

651
00:39:51,285 --> 00:39:52,942
Yeah.Mm.

652
00:39:52,976 --> 00:39:54,461
Yeah, I wasn't the
best-looking kid.

653
00:39:54,495 --> 00:39:56,186
I got teased about it. Oh, okay.

654
00:39:56,221 --> 00:39:57,912
That's hard.Mm.

655
00:39:57,947 --> 00:40:00,915
So I started wearing contact
lenses when I was about 20.

656
00:40:00,950 --> 00:40:02,572
20.

657
00:40:02,607 --> 00:40:04,954
But you wore
glasses before that?

658
00:40:04,988 --> 00:40:07,888
Yeah. Mm. Okay.

659
00:40:15,482 --> 00:40:18,450
Valentine's Day in 1988. Do
you remember where you were?

660
00:40:18,485 --> 00:40:21,626
Come on, mate. I can't even
remember where I was last week.

661
00:40:21,660 --> 00:40:22,730
Yeah.

662
00:40:27,597 --> 00:40:30,013
Do you remember Kylee Cosgrove?

663
00:40:33,085 --> 00:40:35,916
She lived not far from
you in Huntingdale.

664
00:40:35,950 --> 00:40:38,505
Uh, no, I don't think so.

665
00:40:38,539 --> 00:40:39,920
Don't think so?

666
00:40:39,954 --> 00:40:41,542
No.

667
00:40:41,577 --> 00:40:43,475
She didn't go to your school?

668
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:44,718
No.

669
00:40:44,752 --> 00:40:46,927
I mean, we might have...

670
00:40:46,961 --> 00:40:48,756
I remember... I remember
the name Cosgrove.

671
00:40:48,791 --> 00:40:50,907
I think my brother used to swim
at their pool or something,

672
00:40:50,931 --> 00:40:52,322
but I-I don't... I
didn't cross paths

673
00:40:52,346 --> 00:40:53,761
with any Kylee Cosgrove.

674
00:40:53,796 --> 00:40:55,176
Okay. Yep.

675
00:40:55,211 --> 00:40:56,868
Mm.

676
00:40:56,902 --> 00:41:00,768
And you know anything
about a kimono?

677
00:41:00,803 --> 00:41:04,254
Two birds, red
flowers on the back?

678
00:41:04,289 --> 00:41:06,015
No. Nothing.

679
00:41:06,049 --> 00:41:08,327
Nothing.

680
00:41:08,362 --> 00:41:10,329
Maybe we can back up a bit.

681
00:41:10,364 --> 00:41:12,918
Can you tell us about
your first marriage?

682
00:41:12,953 --> 00:41:16,197
First marriage? Yeah.

683
00:41:16,232 --> 00:41:18,924
I was depressed.

684
00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:22,652
Um, I drank a lot.

685
00:41:22,687 --> 00:41:25,034
You know why she left?

686
00:41:25,068 --> 00:41:28,037
We, uh...

687
00:41:28,071 --> 00:41:30,626
We had a lodger, and
she took up with him.

688
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,809
But I still kinda
loved her, you know?

689
00:41:41,844 --> 00:41:43,708
And her parents told my
parents that leaving me

690
00:41:43,742 --> 00:41:46,020
was the worst decision
that she ever made.

691
00:41:46,055 --> 00:41:50,300
Mm. Your wife left you
around Australia Day '96?

692
00:41:50,335 --> 00:41:52,233
Yeah, probably about then.

693
00:41:52,268 --> 00:41:55,685
That's about when Sarah
Spiers went missing.

694
00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:59,309
Isn't it? Yeah.

695
00:41:59,344 --> 00:42:04,107
And you found out your wife
was pregnant to this lodger...

696
00:42:04,142 --> 00:42:06,213
I guess. Well,
if... Yeah, June.

697
00:42:06,247 --> 00:42:08,042
June 1996.

698
00:42:11,011 --> 00:42:14,186
That's about the time
Jane Rimmer went missing.

699
00:42:14,221 --> 00:42:16,603
Mm...

700
00:42:16,637 --> 00:42:17,994
And I've got here you
sold the home you bought

701
00:42:18,018 --> 00:42:21,090
with your first wife
in January of 1997.

702
00:42:21,124 --> 00:42:25,197
That's around the time
Ciara Glennon was abducted.

703
00:42:25,232 --> 00:42:29,339
That's a hell of a coincidence.
Is that right... those dates?

704
00:42:29,374 --> 00:42:31,307
Look, I don't know
anything about any of that.

705
00:42:31,341 --> 00:42:34,344
I'm trying to be as honest
with you blokes as I can.

706
00:42:37,416 --> 00:42:40,627
Will you submit to
giving a DNA sample?

707
00:42:40,661 --> 00:42:41,731
DNA?

708
00:42:41,766 --> 00:42:44,078
Yeah, for testing.

709
00:42:44,113 --> 00:42:46,667
You can oblige willingly,
or we can get a court order,

710
00:42:46,702 --> 00:42:51,051
but either way,
yeah, we'll get it.

711
00:42:51,085 --> 00:42:52,915
No, no, I'll give
it. I don't mind.

712
00:42:52,949 --> 00:42:54,675
I keep telling you I've
got nothing to hide.

713
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:56,125
Just wanna go to
sleep and wake up,

714
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:57,959
and this'll all be over.
You know what I mean?

715
00:43:09,069 --> 00:43:12,693
Hey, Dave. We found
porn, snuff films,

716
00:43:12,728 --> 00:43:14,360
women's underwear with
the crotch cut out,

717
00:43:14,384 --> 00:43:17,215
homemade sex toys, some stuff
he's written about rape.

718
00:43:17,249 --> 00:43:19,424
I mean, this guy's a
psycho fuck, but...

719
00:43:19,458 --> 00:43:21,126
There's nothing to
connect him to the girls?

720
00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:24,429
Yeah, not yet. Neither
clothing, nor jewelry.

721
00:43:24,463 --> 00:43:26,914
Not one trophy. He's
either hidden it, or...

722
00:43:26,949 --> 00:43:28,191
He got rid of it.

723
00:43:28,226 --> 00:43:29,883
Yeah. How's the
interview going?

724
00:43:29,917 --> 00:43:31,263
Uh, he's denying everything.

725
00:43:31,298 --> 00:43:33,196
He's lying, Nikki.
He's making shit up.

726
00:43:33,231 --> 00:43:34,922
But you still have
enough to charge him?

727
00:43:34,957 --> 00:43:37,649
Yeah, but, you know, a
confession would be bloody nice.

728
00:43:37,684 --> 00:43:39,133
I'll get one. I'll
get a confession.

729
00:43:39,168 --> 00:43:41,032
Gav.

730
00:43:41,066 --> 00:43:42,492
We'll have new DNA
results within an hour,

731
00:43:42,516 --> 00:43:44,287
and when they match with
what we found on Ciara,

732
00:43:44,311 --> 00:43:45,692
we won't need a confession.

733
00:43:45,726 --> 00:43:47,279
What, he gave his DNA willingly?

734
00:43:47,314 --> 00:43:49,281
He did.Shit.

735
00:43:49,316 --> 00:43:50,707
He either doesn't
think we have anything

736
00:43:50,731 --> 00:43:52,284
to compare it to or
he's not our guy.

737
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:55,253
He's our guy. Right,
we'll talk soon, eh?

738
00:43:59,464 --> 00:44:01,777
You bet he is.

739
00:44:01,811 --> 00:44:03,710
Look.

740
00:44:07,023 --> 00:44:09,370
He's sleeping.

741
00:44:09,405 --> 00:44:12,891
Only guilty bastards sleep.

742
00:44:12,926 --> 00:44:15,238
The innocent are always pacing.

743
00:44:22,832 --> 00:44:26,525
Gavin: Mr. Edwards.

744
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,355
It's time to get up.

745
00:44:32,808 --> 00:44:35,189
Now, in 1996, when you
were working for Telstra,

746
00:44:35,224 --> 00:44:37,985
did you drive a Holden
Commodore station wagon?

747
00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:39,331
Yeah.

748
00:44:39,366 --> 00:44:41,023
Yeah. And a cargo
area in the back?

749
00:44:41,057 --> 00:44:42,369
Yeah, there was a caged area

750
00:44:42,403 --> 00:44:45,061
between the driver
and the rear area,

751
00:44:45,096 --> 00:44:47,995
but I think every Telstra
vehicle looked like that.

752
00:44:48,030 --> 00:44:51,378
And did you drive around
the nightclubs in Claremont?

753
00:44:51,412 --> 00:44:55,209
Um, I mean, I'm aware of
them, I've never been to them.

754
00:44:55,244 --> 00:44:59,558
I-I don't go out to Claremont.

755
00:44:59,593 --> 00:45:01,457
Okay.

756
00:45:01,491 --> 00:45:04,771
We'll just take a
look at this map.

757
00:45:04,805 --> 00:45:06,945
Do you know Rowe Park?

758
00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,292
No.Are you positive?

759
00:45:09,327 --> 00:45:10,811
Yes.

760
00:45:10,846 --> 00:45:13,089
Karrakatta Cemetery? Yes.

761
00:45:13,124 --> 00:45:17,818
I was there for a memorial
for a woman in 2008, I think.

762
00:45:17,853 --> 00:45:19,337
No time before?

763
00:45:19,371 --> 00:45:22,064
Not that I recall.

764
00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:24,894
Come in.

765
00:45:27,172 --> 00:45:28,553
Thank you.

766
00:46:04,485 --> 00:46:06,601
Are you aware of the women who
were abducted from Claremont

767
00:46:06,625 --> 00:46:09,180
in '96 and '97?

768
00:46:11,941 --> 00:46:13,115
I'm aware of them.

769
00:46:13,149 --> 00:46:15,289
I think everybody
was aware of them.

770
00:46:15,324 --> 00:46:18,914
But I'm 110%... I am 120%

771
00:46:18,948 --> 00:46:21,813
certain that I'm not
involved in any of this.

772
00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:24,160
I don't know how many
ways that I can say no.

773
00:46:24,195 --> 00:46:26,024
Right.

774
00:46:26,059 --> 00:46:28,647
DNA results have come back,

775
00:46:28,682 --> 00:46:31,236
and they confirm that your
DNA is a positive match

776
00:46:31,271 --> 00:46:34,170
for the kimono in Huntingdale in
1988... No, that's not possible.

777
00:46:34,205 --> 00:46:37,001
For the rape of a young woman
in Karrakatta Cemetery... No.

778
00:46:37,035 --> 00:46:40,625
How can that be?...and for the
murder of Ciara Glennon in 1997.

779
00:46:40,659 --> 00:46:42,938
No.

780
00:46:42,972 --> 00:46:43,973
Can you explain that?

781
00:46:44,008 --> 00:46:45,872
I-I can't.

782
00:46:45,906 --> 00:46:47,494
You can't explain that? No.

783
00:46:47,528 --> 00:46:50,083
Alright. You're an intelligent
man. You're not dumb.

784
00:46:50,117 --> 00:46:52,292
Now, you know that
your DNA is unique.

785
00:46:52,326 --> 00:46:53,579
You're the only person
in the whole world

786
00:46:53,603 --> 00:46:55,053
with that DNA profile.

787
00:46:55,088 --> 00:46:57,400
I can... I can't
explain that. I mean...

788
00:46:57,435 --> 00:46:59,092
Just tell us what happened.

789
00:46:59,126 --> 00:47:01,266
I-I wish I could, but I
can't because I wasn't there!

790
00:47:01,301 --> 00:47:03,613
I-I mean, you're...
Hey, slow down.

791
00:47:03,648 --> 00:47:05,443
I see that you don't
believe that I did it.

792
00:47:05,477 --> 00:47:07,214
Slow down. But you're the
one saying that I did it.

793
00:47:07,238 --> 00:47:09,102
Listen, the question I asked you

794
00:47:09,136 --> 00:47:11,656
is, do you understand that
your DNA profile's unique?

795
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:13,244
I can't explain that!

796
00:47:13,278 --> 00:47:15,073
I don't understand
what's happening!

797
00:47:15,108 --> 00:47:18,870
Well, we found your semen on
the kimono in Huntingdale.

798
00:47:18,905 --> 00:47:22,632
We found your DNA on Lisa
Todd in Karrakatta Cemetery.

799
00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:24,186
Can't explain that? No.

800
00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:26,878
And we found your
DNA on Ciara Glennon,

801
00:47:26,913 --> 00:47:30,606
27 years of age, murdered
March 14, 1997, okay?

802
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,159
Your DNA is on her.

803
00:47:32,194 --> 00:47:33,585
Impossible. Can't
explain that one either?

804
00:47:33,609 --> 00:47:34,955
No.Alright.

805
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:37,164
Are you an honest
man? I'm... Yes.

806
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:39,995
'Cause we interviewed
your stepdaughter.

807
00:47:40,029 --> 00:47:42,031
And she said that your
most-prized virtue

808
00:47:42,066 --> 00:47:43,308
is your honesty.

809
00:47:43,343 --> 00:47:46,242
I <i>am</i> being honest.

810
00:47:46,277 --> 00:47:48,427
Are you a man who accepts
responsibility for your actions?

811
00:47:48,451 --> 00:47:50,602
I accept responsibility for
the stuff that I have done,

812
00:47:50,626 --> 00:47:53,077
not for the stuff
that I haven't.

813
00:47:57,702 --> 00:48:01,706
Bradley Robert Edwards,
you're now being charged

814
00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:03,708
with the assault on
Kylee Cosgrove...

815
00:48:03,742 --> 00:48:05,572
No, you've got the
wrong guy... in 1988...

816
00:48:05,606 --> 00:48:09,334
the rape of Lisa Todd in 1995,

817
00:48:09,369 --> 00:48:11,923
and the murders of Jane
Rimmer and Ciara Glennon.

818
00:48:11,958 --> 00:48:14,684
I did not do it! You've
got the wrong guy.

819
00:48:17,342 --> 00:48:19,413
<i>I'm here to make an
important announcement...</i>

820
00:48:19,448 --> 00:48:20,770
<i>to the West
Australian community.</i>

821
00:48:20,794 --> 00:48:22,416
<i>Detectives from the
Special Crime Squad</i>

822
00:48:22,451 --> 00:48:25,385
<i>have charged a
48-year-old Kewdale man</i>

823
00:48:25,419 --> 00:48:28,146
<i>with the murders of Jane
Rimmer and Ciara Glennon,</i>

824
00:48:28,181 --> 00:48:30,286
<i>and attacks. On other
young women.</i>Gav?

825
00:48:30,321 --> 00:48:32,116
You watching this?
<i>This has already been</i>

826
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:34,773
<i>the biggest and most
complex police investigation</i>

827
00:48:34,808 --> 00:48:36,096
<i>in WA's
history.</i>Congratulations, Gav.

828
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,638
<i>Hundreds of police officers...</i>

829
00:48:37,673 --> 00:48:39,537
Now we have to convict him.

830
00:48:39,571 --> 00:48:41,056
<i>Over the past 20 years.</i>

831
00:48:41,090 --> 00:48:43,403
You will. <i>The commitment
of the WA Police</i>

832
00:48:43,437 --> 00:48:46,613
<i>and its officers
have never wavered.</i>

833
00:48:46,647 --> 00:48:48,995
<i>We never give up.</i>

834
00:48:49,029 --> 00:48:50,696
He didn't confess and
he's pleading not guilty

835
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,515
to every charge.
There's nothing

836
00:48:52,550 --> 00:48:54,286
in any of the houses that
links him to the girls.

837
00:48:54,310 --> 00:48:56,657
Not one trophy, not
one hair, nothing.

838
00:48:56,692 --> 00:48:58,521
Just tell him you got
something from his car.

839
00:48:58,556 --> 00:49:02,353
Yeah, we found this.

840
00:49:02,387 --> 00:49:04,079
You see it?

841
00:49:04,113 --> 00:49:06,978
Yeah. But that doesn't link
him to any of the girls.

842
00:49:07,013 --> 00:49:08,531
You got anything else?

843
00:49:08,566 --> 00:49:10,026
There was no blood or
hair from them in the car.

844
00:49:10,050 --> 00:49:11,672
How can there be no blood?

845
00:49:11,707 --> 00:49:14,020
Well, he must have killed
them where we found them.

846
00:49:14,054 --> 00:49:17,678
But the fibers on Jane
and Ciara match, okay?

847
00:49:17,713 --> 00:49:21,165
These gray ones were found in
the carpet on the car floor

848
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,167
and back well of a
Holden Commodore.

849
00:49:23,201 --> 00:49:26,549
And on the handle that
adjusts the driver's seat,

850
00:49:26,584 --> 00:49:28,482
13 blue fibers we can't ID yet.

851
00:49:28,517 --> 00:49:31,071
But I had an idea about them.

852
00:49:34,557 --> 00:49:35,834
You see it?

853
00:49:35,869 --> 00:49:37,595
Yeah. The shorts.

854
00:49:37,629 --> 00:49:40,598
These could be the source
of the blue fibers.

855
00:49:40,632 --> 00:49:44,498
We've just got to find someone
who kept a pair since 1995.

856
00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:47,639
I swear, okay? I didn't
have anything to do with it.

857
00:49:47,674 --> 00:49:49,641
It's just like with
that other guy,

858
00:49:49,676 --> 00:49:51,816
that, um, public
servant that they...

859
00:49:51,850 --> 00:49:53,231
Lance Williams.

860
00:49:53,266 --> 00:49:56,648
That's it. Yeah. That's
what the cops do.

861
00:49:56,683 --> 00:49:59,237
They get tunnel vision,
they zone in on a guy.

862
00:49:59,272 --> 00:50:01,136
But why'd they pick
you, Dad? I don't know.

863
00:50:01,170 --> 00:50:05,174
They're saying that they've got
my DNA from an attack in 1988.

864
00:50:05,209 --> 00:50:07,383
What's that, 30 years ago?

865
00:50:07,418 --> 00:50:09,454
They're just trying to
stitch me up. You'll see.

866
00:50:09,489 --> 00:50:12,043
We'll keep supporting
you, Brad. Don't worry.

867
00:50:12,078 --> 00:50:13,665
So will Mum and Dad.

868
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,736
We all believe you.

869
00:50:20,741 --> 00:50:22,881
I-I don't understand
how he isn't charged

870
00:50:22,916 --> 00:50:24,607
with Sarah's...

871
00:50:24,642 --> 00:50:26,333
with her...

872
00:50:26,368 --> 00:50:30,199
her murder.

873
00:50:30,234 --> 00:50:31,476
There's still nothing concrete

874
00:50:31,511 --> 00:50:34,824
that links him
with Sarah... yet.

875
00:50:34,859 --> 00:50:36,619
You need a body.

876
00:50:36,654 --> 00:50:39,277
No.

877
00:50:39,312 --> 00:50:42,763
Not necessarily.

878
00:50:42,798 --> 00:50:45,490
But we could use more evidence.

879
00:50:45,525 --> 00:50:47,561
Do you have any kids?

880
00:50:51,255 --> 00:50:53,119
No.

881
00:50:54,499 --> 00:50:56,674
In the country...

882
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,299
you can sometimes
fear the big city.

883
00:51:03,508 --> 00:51:05,614
But our girls didn't.

884
00:51:05,648 --> 00:51:09,273
They were just so...

885
00:51:09,307 --> 00:51:13,208
alive.

886
00:51:13,242 --> 00:51:16,383
But we worried for them, and...

887
00:51:16,418 --> 00:51:18,558
we bought them a flat
in a nice part of town

888
00:51:18,592 --> 00:51:20,870
and a good car

889
00:51:20,905 --> 00:51:24,943
and tried to keep them safe.

890
00:51:24,978 --> 00:51:26,497
Still, just...

891
00:51:27,636 --> 00:51:31,812
life just...

892
00:51:31,847 --> 00:51:35,678
blows up.

893
00:51:35,713 --> 00:51:38,543
It's just your worst fear.

894
00:51:49,658 --> 00:51:53,351
Don't let 'em forget about her.

895
00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:55,250
Charge the bastard
for those other girls

896
00:51:55,284 --> 00:51:58,667
and forget about Sarah.

897
00:51:58,701 --> 00:52:01,601
I'll make sure they don't.

898
00:52:01,635 --> 00:52:03,189
Yeah.

899
00:52:15,580 --> 00:52:18,411
Hey.

900
00:52:18,445 --> 00:52:19,481
Which way you headed?

901
00:52:19,515 --> 00:52:20,896
Mosman Park.

902
00:52:20,930 --> 00:52:23,278
Oh, that's okay. I'm
headed that way anyway.

903
00:52:23,312 --> 00:52:25,418
Cool.

904
00:52:32,735 --> 00:52:34,323
Gav? What time is it?

905
00:52:34,358 --> 00:52:37,499
Gavin: I think she
must have seen his car.

906
00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:38,959
It looked like a cab.
She'd just called one.

907
00:52:38,983 --> 00:52:41,019
So she got in, and only
after he started out,

908
00:52:41,054 --> 00:52:44,575
did she realize that...
it wasn't a cab.

909
00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:46,611
Yeah, she would
have panicked then.

910
00:52:46,646 --> 00:52:50,028
No, but Edwards, he must
have sweet-talked her.

911
00:52:50,063 --> 00:52:51,444
No one heard anything
in Claremont,

912
00:52:51,478 --> 00:52:53,963
so somehow he got
her to stay quiet.

913
00:52:53,998 --> 00:52:57,933
That's what we always thought,
but how are you gonna prove

914
00:52:57,967 --> 00:52:59,590
Sarah got in his car?

915
00:52:59,624 --> 00:53:00,636
She might have... I'll prove it.

916
00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:03,973
I'll prove it.

917
00:53:04,008 --> 00:53:06,493
We don't know what really
happened that night.

918
00:53:06,528 --> 00:53:08,599
No one does.

919
00:53:08,633 --> 00:53:11,257
Defense will say Sarah
ran off with a guy

920
00:53:11,291 --> 00:53:13,397
or went for a midnight
swim and drowned or any...

921
00:53:13,431 --> 00:53:15,640
I don't really care
what defense has to say.

922
00:53:15,675 --> 00:53:17,504
She got in his car.

923
00:53:17,539 --> 00:53:19,368
But you have to be
able to prove it.

924
00:53:19,403 --> 00:53:20,956
Just take a step
back, Gav, and...

925
00:53:20,990 --> 00:53:24,649
I'm not stepping back.
We have to get him.

926
00:53:24,684 --> 00:53:27,238
For Sarah. For their family.

927
00:53:27,273 --> 00:53:29,620
We have to get him.
I have to get him.

928
00:53:34,694 --> 00:53:37,524
I've gotta get him.

929
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,872
A Telstra tech named Jeff
Cohen kept these since 1995.

930
00:53:40,907 --> 00:53:42,771
Never even worn them.

931
00:53:42,805 --> 00:53:45,291
ChemCentre tested them and
the fibers from the dye lot

932
00:53:45,325 --> 00:53:46,775
are an exact match to the fibers

933
00:53:46,809 --> 00:53:48,708
found on Jane, Lisa, and Ciara.

934
00:53:48,742 --> 00:53:50,330
This blue is unique to Telstra?

935
00:53:50,365 --> 00:53:52,332
The dye was developed
exclusively for them.

936
00:53:52,367 --> 00:53:55,024
A different blue from police
uniforms or any other tradies.

937
00:53:55,059 --> 00:53:58,062
This puts a Telstra worker at
the scene of all three crimes.

938
00:53:58,096 --> 00:53:59,477
Edwards.

939
00:53:59,512 --> 00:54:00,892
Car fibers, these, they're good,

940
00:54:00,927 --> 00:54:02,446
but they're circumstantial.

941
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,896
This could be from
any Telstra worker.

942
00:54:04,931 --> 00:54:06,805
Only the DNA on Ciara's
nail puts Edwards there.

943
00:54:06,829 --> 00:54:09,315
That's enough, right?

944
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:12,283
The lawyer that Edwards hired,
Paul Yovich, he's smart.

945
00:54:12,318 --> 00:54:15,113
He knows he'll have to
create doubt about the DNA.

946
00:54:15,148 --> 00:54:16,839
If I were Yovich, I'd suggest

947
00:54:16,874 --> 00:54:19,048
there might have been
cross-contamination at the lab.

948
00:54:19,083 --> 00:54:20,843
Can he prove that?

949
00:54:20,878 --> 00:54:23,398
I'm afraid PathWest has a
history of cross-contamination.

950
00:54:23,432 --> 00:54:26,884
But don't worry. I still
think that we can convict him

951
00:54:26,918 --> 00:54:28,610
for Jane and Ciara's murder.

952
00:54:28,644 --> 00:54:31,337
What about Sarah? You've
gotta get Sarah on the brief.

953
00:54:31,371 --> 00:54:32,993
You can't let him walk on her.

954
00:54:33,028 --> 00:54:35,410
Once we prove Edwards'
guilt on Jane and Ciara

955
00:54:35,444 --> 00:54:39,034
with the same MO, the same
propensity of evidence,

956
00:54:39,068 --> 00:54:41,864
we should be able to
connect him to Sarah.

957
00:54:41,899 --> 00:54:44,073
So you're gonna add Sarah
to the charge brief?

958
00:54:44,108 --> 00:54:49,044
Yes. The Spiers deserve
that. But prepare yourself.

959
00:54:49,078 --> 00:54:52,012
Justice Hall could still dismiss
her charge for lack of evidence.

960
00:54:52,047 --> 00:54:54,014
Don't let him. Then
I suggest, Detective,

961
00:54:54,049 --> 00:54:55,775
that you get me
some more evidence

962
00:54:55,809 --> 00:54:58,674
connecting Edwards
to Sarah Spiers.

963
00:55:07,614 --> 00:55:09,513
Doesn't matter how many
times you look at it,

964
00:55:09,547 --> 00:55:11,618
you still can't
tell it's Edwards.

965
00:55:13,586 --> 00:55:17,037
It could be him.

966
00:55:17,072 --> 00:55:19,108
If he'd just turn around.

967
00:55:25,874 --> 00:55:28,842
Have you seen this?

968
00:55:28,877 --> 00:55:30,982
I didn't even know he was sick.

969
00:55:31,017 --> 00:55:33,675
Cancer.

970
00:55:33,709 --> 00:55:35,884
I got in his car.

971
00:55:38,714 --> 00:55:41,614
Remember?

972
00:55:41,648 --> 00:55:43,719
I said it was him.

973
00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:50,070
I was so sure.

974
00:55:50,105 --> 00:55:52,038
So was I.

975
00:55:55,041 --> 00:55:56,767
You know, if Lance
had picked up Jane

976
00:55:56,801 --> 00:55:59,977
or any of those girls...

977
00:56:01,565 --> 00:56:04,015
they'd still be alive.

978
00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:10,125
But now you've
got the right guy.

979
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:11,851
You have his DNA.

980
00:56:11,885 --> 00:56:15,510
No way is he
getting out of this.

981
00:56:15,544 --> 00:56:17,453
That's the thing. I didn't have
anything to do with the murders,

982
00:56:17,477 --> 00:56:20,066
I swear. And I've
been thinking.

983
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:23,000
I want to give
evidence. I want to...

984
00:56:23,034 --> 00:56:24,933
I want to say that at
trial. If you do that,

985
00:56:24,967 --> 00:56:26,876
you could be on the stand
for six months in cross.

986
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:29,558
And they can ask you anything.
You have to answer, in detail

987
00:56:29,593 --> 00:56:30,663
and under oath.

988
00:56:30,697 --> 00:56:32,768
I can do that.

989
00:56:32,803 --> 00:56:34,194
Look, it is your
decision in the end.

990
00:56:34,218 --> 00:56:36,082
Could you stop doing
that? Listen to me.

991
00:56:36,116 --> 00:56:37,911
Putting you on the
stand, in my opinion,

992
00:56:37,946 --> 00:56:41,259
that would be a mistake.
They'll push you hard, Bradley.

993
00:56:41,294 --> 00:56:42,640
Okay.

994
00:56:42,675 --> 00:56:46,920
But all this time
being locked up,

995
00:56:46,955 --> 00:56:49,060
I've been searching
my conscience

996
00:56:49,095 --> 00:56:52,132
and I want to plead guilty

997
00:56:52,167 --> 00:56:57,137
to the assaults at
Huntingdale and Karrakatta.

998
00:56:57,172 --> 00:56:59,692
Guilty? Yep. Yep.

999
00:56:59,726 --> 00:57:02,660
I was a different
person back then.

1000
00:57:02,695 --> 00:57:06,008
I snapped. It
wasn't really me.

1001
00:57:09,218 --> 00:57:12,670
Plus, they've got that DNA at
both the crime scenes, right?

1002
00:57:12,705 --> 00:57:15,224
That'll hold up in court? Mm.

1003
00:57:15,259 --> 00:57:17,503
Those samples have been
locked away for 20 years.

1004
00:57:17,537 --> 00:57:18,745
They'll be convincing.

1005
00:57:18,780 --> 00:57:20,102
Right. So that's
what I'm thinking.

1006
00:57:20,126 --> 00:57:22,231
Bradley, I can't be
a party to any lies.

1007
00:57:22,266 --> 00:57:25,096
I'm not lying.

1008
00:57:25,131 --> 00:57:29,894
I did the assaults, but
I didn't do the murders.

1009
00:57:29,929 --> 00:57:32,172
I couldn't do that. I'm
not guilty of murder.

1010
00:57:32,207 --> 00:57:33,667
It's just, the cops
are pinning it on me

1011
00:57:33,691 --> 00:57:35,244
because they want
to blame somebody.

1012
00:57:35,279 --> 00:57:37,005
So if you plead guilty
to the assaults,

1013
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,179
you plead early, you save
the court time and money.

1014
00:57:39,214 --> 00:57:41,078
You could get a
reduced sentence.

1015
00:57:41,112 --> 00:57:43,011
And, of course, with
time in custody,

1016
00:57:43,045 --> 00:57:44,909
probably looking at
three or four years.

1017
00:57:44,944 --> 00:57:46,532
That's it?

1018
00:57:46,566 --> 00:57:48,844
And if I can prove the
cross-contamination of DNA

1019
00:57:48,879 --> 00:57:51,226
taken from Ciara Glennon,

1020
00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:53,090
you could be out
before you're 55.

1021
00:57:57,266 --> 00:58:00,028
So... So...

1022
00:58:00,062 --> 00:58:01,961
what about before,

1023
00:58:01,995 --> 00:58:03,283
pleading not guilty
to the assaults?

1024
00:58:03,307 --> 00:58:04,895
Can that work against me?

1025
00:58:04,929 --> 00:58:06,735
No, there's no law against
lying to the police.

1026
00:58:06,759 --> 00:58:09,047
Justice Hall can't let lying
about an earlier crime influence

1027
00:58:09,071 --> 00:58:10,866
his decision about the murders.

1028
00:58:10,901 --> 00:58:16,700
Right. So pleading guilty to the
assaults is my best way forward?

1029
00:58:16,734 --> 00:58:19,530
If it's the truth.
That's the truth.

1030
00:58:19,565 --> 00:58:21,335
In a shock announcement
today, Bradley Edwards,

1031
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:23,534
the accused Claremont
serial killer,

1032
00:58:23,569 --> 00:58:26,088
is now pleading guilty to
rape and assault charges

1033
00:58:26,123 --> 00:58:28,677
<i>from 1988 and 1995.</i>

1034
00:58:28,712 --> 00:58:30,368
<i>Since his arrest,</i>

1035
00:58:30,403 --> 00:58:33,717
<i>Mr. Edwards has steadfastly
insisted his innocence.</i>

1036
00:58:33,751 --> 00:58:35,142
<i>And though he is
now pleading guilty</i>

1037
00:58:35,166 --> 00:58:36,927
<i>to the rape and assault charges,</i>

1038
00:58:36,961 --> 00:58:39,170
<i>he still maintains that
he never killed anyone,</i>

1039
00:58:39,205 --> 00:58:42,208
and will fight those charges
to the utmost of his abilities.

1040
00:58:42,242 --> 00:58:44,175
- Four years?
- With time in custody,

1041
00:58:44,210 --> 00:58:46,291
that's the minimum he could
get for the assault and rape.

1042
00:58:46,315 --> 00:58:48,076
For everything he
did... four years?

1043
00:58:48,110 --> 00:58:51,044
That won't happen. Conviction
on the murder charges

1044
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:53,150
will get him life with
no chance of parole.

1045
00:58:53,184 --> 00:58:54,703
If the DNA doesn't
get thrown out

1046
00:58:54,738 --> 00:58:56,671
on some bullshit
contamination argument.

1047
00:58:56,705 --> 00:58:58,372
Gav, we'll get him. We haven't
got him for 20 years, Nik.

1048
00:58:58,396 --> 00:58:59,915
This guy's had the devil's luck

1049
00:58:59,950 --> 00:59:01,814
and I'm not certain
it's run out yet.

1050
00:59:05,334 --> 00:59:07,164
Reporter: People lined
up outside the court

1051
00:59:07,198 --> 00:59:08,762
before sunrise, hoping
for a front-row seat.

1052
00:59:08,786 --> 00:59:10,346
Reporter #2: chilling
day of evidence

1053
00:59:10,374 --> 00:59:12,825
from the opening of the
Claremont serial killings.

1054
00:59:12,859 --> 00:59:14,803
Reporter #3: with a high
level of public interest.

1055
00:59:14,827 --> 00:59:16,701
Reporter #4: Edwards is
charged with the murders

1056
00:59:16,725 --> 00:59:18,106
of Sarah Spiers, Jane Rimmer...

1057
00:59:18,140 --> 00:59:19,694
Reporter #5: trial
by judge alone.

1058
00:59:19,728 --> 00:59:21,257
Reporter #6: The three
women disappeared...

1059
00:59:21,281 --> 00:59:23,629
If Trevor was
alive, he'd be here.

1060
00:59:23,663 --> 00:59:25,596
He loved Janey so much.

1061
00:59:25,631 --> 00:59:27,667
We pray for Ciara all the time.

1062
00:59:27,702 --> 00:59:30,877
When Una and I see a girl
around her... her age,

1063
00:59:30,912 --> 00:59:32,776
we think of her still.

1064
00:59:32,810 --> 00:59:36,883
Sarah had something different
about her to most other kids.

1065
00:59:36,918 --> 00:59:41,716
She had this lovely warmth
about her, didn't she?

1066
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:42,786
Yeah.

1067
00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:44,339
Alison: The trial of the century

1068
00:59:44,373 --> 00:59:47,100
in Western Australia
gets under way today.

1069
00:59:47,135 --> 00:59:48,802
The amount of evidence
that's been gathered

1070
00:59:48,826 --> 00:59:51,070
for this case has
been staggering.

1071
00:59:51,104 --> 00:59:54,625
Over 16,000 DNA samples
have been taken.

1072
00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:57,145
200 witnesses are
expected to be called,

1073
00:59:57,179 --> 01:00:00,424
with 10,000 pages of
interview transcripts,

1074
01:00:00,458 --> 01:00:04,670
110 gigabytes of
prosecution disclosures,

1075
01:00:04,704 --> 01:00:06,982
a million pages of evidence.

1076
01:00:07,017 --> 01:00:09,053
The DNA and fiber evidence alone

1077
01:00:09,088 --> 01:00:12,160
is said to be over
60,000 pages long.

1078
01:00:30,419 --> 01:00:33,906
In a 14-month
period, three bright,

1079
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:38,807
beautiful young women vanished
from the streets of Claremont.

1080
01:00:38,842 --> 01:00:42,224
There were so many questions
for which the lack of answers

1081
01:00:42,259 --> 01:00:46,366
cemented a fear that ran
through the community,

1082
01:00:46,401 --> 01:00:51,061
a fear that was caused
by an enigma of the dark.

1083
01:00:52,925 --> 01:00:57,792
In the coming months, the state
will demystify this enigma

1084
01:00:57,826 --> 01:01:00,933
and prove that there
was one killer.

1085
01:01:00,967 --> 01:01:05,316
And that killer is
Bradley Robert Edwards.

1086
01:01:06,421 --> 01:01:10,183
The deaths of these young
women were unlawful killings.

1087
01:01:10,218 --> 01:01:12,772
There is no doubt or
dispute about that.

1088
01:01:12,807 --> 01:01:15,533
The issue is the
identity of the killer,

1089
01:01:15,568 --> 01:01:20,021
and Bradley Edwards' defense
in each case is that.

1090
01:01:20,055 --> 01:01:21,401
It wasn't him.

1091
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,347
Woman: <i>We were happy in
the marriage at first.</i>

1092
01:01:36,382 --> 01:01:40,248
<i>Um, but then he became
obsessed with his computer.</i>

1093
01:01:40,282 --> 01:01:43,734
<i>So, yeah, he would come
home from work and disappear</i>

1094
01:01:43,769 --> 01:01:47,738
<i>into the spare room. He
wasn't interested in me</i>

1095
01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:50,914
<i>and he wasn't present
in the marriage,</i>

1096
01:01:50,948 --> 01:01:52,916
<i>and stuff happened.</i>

1097
01:01:52,950 --> 01:01:55,435
Oh!

1098
01:01:55,470 --> 01:01:59,888
<i>We were laughing and
then she kissed me.</i>

1099
01:01:59,923 --> 01:02:03,927
<i>Or I kissed her.
I-I can't remember.</i>

1100
01:02:03,961 --> 01:02:08,379
<i>He didn't say anything.
He just... walked away.</i>

1101
01:02:12,004 --> 01:02:15,904
You are one of what has become
known as the "Living Witnesses."

1102
01:02:15,939 --> 01:02:17,319
Yeah.

1103
01:02:17,354 --> 01:02:20,840
And what happened to
you in November of 1996?

1104
01:02:20,875 --> 01:02:25,534
I'd been at Club Bayview.
I'd had a bit to drink.

1105
01:02:25,569 --> 01:02:27,847
Um, and there were no cabs,

1106
01:02:27,882 --> 01:02:30,781
but I was trying to
get to Shenton Park.

1107
01:02:30,816 --> 01:02:32,921
I didn't care how, you know?

1108
01:02:32,956 --> 01:02:34,209
It was a different
time back then.

1109
01:02:34,233 --> 01:02:36,373
We didn't worry about
things like that.

1110
01:02:36,407 --> 01:02:39,100
But then I saw a car, and
it looked like a taxi,

1111
01:02:39,134 --> 01:02:41,171
and the driver stopped.

1112
01:02:41,205 --> 01:02:44,001
What kind of car was it?

1113
01:02:44,036 --> 01:02:46,348
It looked like a
Holden station wagon.

1114
01:02:46,383 --> 01:02:49,006
Can you give me a
lift to Shenton Park?

1115
01:02:49,041 --> 01:02:50,041
Bradley: Sure.

1116
01:02:53,631 --> 01:02:55,875
Oh, hey, this isn't a taxi.

1117
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:58,291
Oh, that's alright. I'll
take you there anyway.

1118
01:02:58,326 --> 01:03:02,986
I didn't feel unsafe,
but something made me say

1119
01:03:03,020 --> 01:03:04,480
that I'd left my shoes
up on the road...

1120
01:03:04,504 --> 01:03:06,506
and would it be okay
if I went to grab them?

1121
01:03:09,164 --> 01:03:11,857
So I grabbed my shoes

1122
01:03:11,891 --> 01:03:15,446
and two guys that I'd
been drinking with...

1123
01:03:15,481 --> 01:03:17,172
Is it okay if you
take these guys, too?

1124
01:03:17,207 --> 01:03:19,312
We're all going
to the same place.

1125
01:03:19,347 --> 01:03:21,176
He didn't say anything.

1126
01:03:21,211 --> 01:03:24,904
He just drove us
to Shenton Park.

1127
01:03:24,939 --> 01:03:29,012
Did you notice
anything about the car?

1128
01:03:29,046 --> 01:03:33,257
It was a Telecom Telstra car.

1129
01:03:39,608 --> 01:03:42,646
When the sample labeled AJM40,

1130
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,442
the sample taken from
Ciara Glennon's nail,

1131
01:03:45,476 --> 01:03:49,135
was finally tested, did you
recover male DNA from it?

1132
01:03:49,170 --> 01:03:51,448
Yes, we did. What
was the result?

1133
01:03:51,482 --> 01:03:55,245
The DNA matched the profile of
the defendant, Bradley Edwards.

1134
01:03:57,523 --> 01:04:01,596
To clarify, when sample
AJM40 was originally taken,

1135
01:04:01,630 --> 01:04:04,150
how was it labeled?

1136
01:04:04,185 --> 01:04:07,050
What was written on the label
of the container in 1997?

1137
01:04:07,084 --> 01:04:11,261
Uh, "Debris only. Not
suitable for analysis."

1138
01:04:11,295 --> 01:04:12,987
Not suitable for analysis.

1139
01:04:13,021 --> 01:04:15,058
And yet more than
10 years later,

1140
01:04:15,092 --> 01:04:17,543
somehow miraculously it's
suitable for testing.

1141
01:04:17,577 --> 01:04:19,062
Not miraculously.

1142
01:04:19,096 --> 01:04:21,029
The advancements in DNA
technology in the past...

1143
01:04:21,064 --> 01:04:24,101
But at the time, when
it was first handled,

1144
01:04:24,136 --> 01:04:26,000
it was labeled "Debris only."

1145
01:04:30,038 --> 01:04:31,395
Have you considered
the possibility

1146
01:04:31,419 --> 01:04:33,593
of cross-contamination
in your lab,

1147
01:04:33,628 --> 01:04:36,217
where a bit of DNA gets
somewhere that it shouldn't?

1148
01:04:36,251 --> 01:04:38,046
Perhaps the right
protocols aren't being used

1149
01:04:38,081 --> 01:04:39,530
and perhaps the
same pair of gloves

1150
01:04:39,565 --> 01:04:41,463
are being worn for
two experiments.

1151
01:04:41,498 --> 01:04:43,155
Of course we consider it,

1152
01:04:43,189 --> 01:04:46,434
and we take all necessary
precautions to make sure

1153
01:04:46,468 --> 01:04:48,608
contamination doesn't
happen, but in this case...

1154
01:04:48,643 --> 01:04:51,715
Doesn't PathWest have a poor
record of cross-contamination?

1155
01:04:51,749 --> 01:04:53,959
I would say, of the hundreds
and thousands of tests,

1156
01:04:53,993 --> 01:04:55,477
we have a very good record of...

1157
01:04:55,512 --> 01:04:58,101
When intimate swabs
collected from Jane Rimmer

1158
01:04:58,135 --> 01:05:03,002
were analyzed in 2017 by
UK laboratory Cellmark,

1159
01:05:03,037 --> 01:05:05,625
did they show the DNA profile
matching that of a male...

1160
01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:08,421
not you, sir...
PathWest scientist?

1161
01:05:08,456 --> 01:05:10,389
Yes, they did.
When intimate swabs

1162
01:05:10,423 --> 01:05:14,255
collected from Ciara Glennon
were analyzed in 2017,

1163
01:05:14,289 --> 01:05:17,534
did they yield the profile of
yet another... not you, sir...

1164
01:05:17,568 --> 01:05:19,363
PathWest scientist?

1165
01:05:21,814 --> 01:05:23,574
Yes.

1166
01:05:23,609 --> 01:05:26,370
And we've all seen videos
collected from the crime scene.

1167
01:05:26,405 --> 01:05:28,786
Police officers
not wearing gloves.

1168
01:05:28,821 --> 01:05:32,376
No shoe protection.
No forensic overalls.

1169
01:05:32,411 --> 01:05:34,206
It was a different time.

1170
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,416
Indeed it was.

1171
01:05:37,450 --> 01:05:39,383
When Mr. Edwards was
employed at Telstra,

1172
01:05:39,418 --> 01:05:41,730
was he ever called to
PathWest to repair the phones?

1173
01:05:46,839 --> 01:05:50,981
Not... Not to my
knowledge, no.

1174
01:05:51,016 --> 01:05:54,812
Not to your knowledge.

1175
01:05:54,847 --> 01:05:56,297
There were bombshells
in court today,

1176
01:05:56,331 --> 01:05:57,584
where cross-contamination claims

1177
01:05:57,608 --> 01:05:59,610
had the prosecution
on their heels.

1178
01:05:59,645 --> 01:06:02,061
The verdict in this case
seems to be in the balance.

1179
01:06:02,096 --> 01:06:04,684
Hey, what's all this rubbish
you're broadcasting about?

1180
01:06:04,719 --> 01:06:07,411
Do you really believe there's
cross-contamination of his DNA?

1181
01:06:07,446 --> 01:06:08,526
I'm just reporting
what was said.

1182
01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:10,449
He murdered three women.

1183
01:06:10,483 --> 01:06:11,840
Are you trying to
help get him off?

1184
01:06:11,864 --> 01:06:13,659
I'm just reporting
what was said in court.

1185
01:06:13,693 --> 01:06:18,250
Listen, people don't want to
speak to you anymore, okay?

1186
01:06:18,284 --> 01:06:19,330
They're fuckin' pissed off.

1187
01:06:19,354 --> 01:06:21,287
You heard the evidence.

1188
01:06:21,322 --> 01:06:23,565
Edwards might be acquitted.

1189
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,740
Everyone needs to be
prepared for that.

1190
01:06:30,158 --> 01:06:33,023
Judge: Mr. Yovich,
the State has closed.

1191
01:06:33,058 --> 01:06:35,750
Is the defense ready to proceed?

1192
01:06:35,784 --> 01:06:37,752
Your Honor, the
defense is closed.

1193
01:06:37,786 --> 01:06:40,099
What? You're not going to
be calling any witnesses?

1194
01:06:40,134 --> 01:06:41,618
No, Your Honor,

1195
01:06:41,652 --> 01:06:44,793
we will address the case
in our closing statement.

1196
01:06:44,828 --> 01:06:47,072
Mr. Edwards, can
you please stand?

1197
01:06:51,490 --> 01:06:53,871
The decision to give
evidence is entirely yours,

1198
01:06:53,906 --> 01:06:55,735
but given the
importance of this case,

1199
01:06:55,770 --> 01:06:59,463
do you wish to make any
statement in your own defense?

1200
01:06:59,498 --> 01:07:01,224
No, Your Honor.

1201
01:07:06,815 --> 01:07:08,610
Nearly seven months
ago, the State

1202
01:07:08,645 --> 01:07:12,131
made reference to an
enigma of the dark

1203
01:07:12,166 --> 01:07:15,238
and promised to shed
light on that enigma.

1204
01:07:15,272 --> 01:07:18,310
It's the forensic evidence
that has cast light

1205
01:07:18,344 --> 01:07:20,208
and unmasked a killer.

1206
01:07:20,243 --> 01:07:24,281
The fibers, the DNA.

1207
01:07:24,316 --> 01:07:30,080
One offender is responsible for
the murders of Sarah Spiers,

1208
01:07:30,115 --> 01:07:33,325
Jane Rimmer, and Ciara Glennon.

1209
01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:39,359
Bradley Robert Edwards, we
say, is the Claremont killer.

1210
01:07:39,607 --> 01:07:44,508
One-fifth of
one-billionth of one gram.

1211
01:07:44,543 --> 01:07:48,788
That's how much DNA was found
on Ciara Glennon's nail.

1212
01:07:48,823 --> 01:07:50,652
Your Honor, are you
able to be satisfied,

1213
01:07:50,687 --> 01:07:52,516
beyond reasonable doubt,

1214
01:07:52,551 --> 01:07:54,898
the DNA finding is only
explicable on the basis

1215
01:07:54,932 --> 01:07:58,350
that the accused
killed Ciara Glennon?

1216
01:07:58,384 --> 01:08:01,456
Contamination events are
rare, but they do happen,

1217
01:08:01,491 --> 01:08:04,390
and they only have
to happen once.

1218
01:08:04,425 --> 01:08:06,289
The carpet fibers,
the pant fibers,

1219
01:08:06,323 --> 01:08:09,119
they could come from
any Telstra employee.

1220
01:08:09,154 --> 01:08:11,156
The only actual
evidence that my client

1221
01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:12,674
might be the Claremont killer

1222
01:08:12,709 --> 01:08:16,506
is the DNA that was found
on Ciara Glennon's nail.

1223
01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:19,750
Are you willing, Your
Honor, to put a man in jail

1224
01:08:19,785 --> 01:08:23,892
for the rest of his
life on that evidence?

1225
01:08:23,927 --> 01:08:28,138
One-fifth of
one-billionth of one gram.

1226
01:09:34,446 --> 01:09:35,826
Wyatt.

1227
01:09:35,861 --> 01:09:39,002
Carmel: Hello, Gavin.
The verdict's in.

1228
01:09:39,036 --> 01:09:40,314
Do you know what it says?

1229
01:09:40,348 --> 01:09:43,213
No. Just get to the court.

1230
01:09:44,766 --> 01:09:47,597
Reporter: After a 20-year
police investigation

1231
01:09:47,631 --> 01:09:50,462
and subsequent seven-month
Supreme Court trial,

1232
01:09:50,496 --> 01:09:51,980
we'll finally get a verdict...

1233
01:09:52,015 --> 01:09:54,224
Reporter #2: The Claremont
serial killings trial...

1234
01:09:54,259 --> 01:09:56,640
Onlookers came
here earlier today,

1235
01:09:56,675 --> 01:09:58,021
queuing up on the steps...

1236
01:09:59,298 --> 01:10:03,509
This is a trial like no other.

1237
01:10:03,544 --> 01:10:05,408
It's a trial like no
other because of its size

1238
01:10:05,442 --> 01:10:07,272
and high degree of interest.

1239
01:10:09,515 --> 01:10:13,588
Three women went missing
from a popular nightlife area

1240
01:10:13,623 --> 01:10:15,452
frequented by many young people.

1241
01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:20,492
It inspired a pervasive fear
in the entire Perth community.

1242
01:10:20,526 --> 01:10:22,770
But it's a trial
like every other,

1243
01:10:22,804 --> 01:10:26,429
because the accused
is presumed innocent

1244
01:10:26,463 --> 01:10:30,260
and the State must prove its
case beyond reasonable doubt.

1245
01:10:30,295 --> 01:10:32,607
I am satisfied that the evidence

1246
01:10:32,642 --> 01:10:37,336
establishes that each of the
victims was abducted and killed.

1247
01:10:37,371 --> 01:10:40,028
The issue, therefore, is
the identity of the killer,

1248
01:10:40,063 --> 01:10:41,478
or killers.

1249
01:10:41,513 --> 01:10:43,687
Having regard to
the DNA evidence

1250
01:10:43,722 --> 01:10:46,483
and the propensity evidence,

1251
01:10:46,518 --> 01:10:48,968
I am satisfied beyond
reasonable doubt

1252
01:10:49,003 --> 01:10:51,039
that Bradley Edwards
was the killer

1253
01:10:51,074 --> 01:10:55,561
of Ms. Rimmer and Ms. Glennon.

1254
01:10:55,596 --> 01:10:58,978
Mr. Edwards chose
semi-rural locations

1255
01:10:59,013 --> 01:11:01,049
and hid the bodies with
the intention of minimizing

1256
01:11:01,084 --> 01:11:03,845
the chances of them being found

1257
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,675
and his offenses
being discovered.

1258
01:11:09,023 --> 01:11:10,542
In respect of Ms. Spiers,

1259
01:11:10,576 --> 01:11:14,615
I have reached the
following conclusions.

1260
01:11:14,649 --> 01:11:16,410
There are some similarities

1261
01:11:16,444 --> 01:11:19,827
between the circumstances
of Ms. Spiers' disappearance

1262
01:11:19,861 --> 01:11:22,761
and the death of Ms.
Rimmer and Ms. Glennon.

1263
01:11:22,795 --> 01:11:26,661
But they do not allow for
a conclusion to be reached

1264
01:11:26,696 --> 01:11:28,353
that the person responsible

1265
01:11:28,387 --> 01:11:30,976
for the killing of Ms.
Glennon and Ms. Rimmer

1266
01:11:31,010 --> 01:11:36,015
must necessarily be the same
person as who killed Ms. Spiers.

1267
01:11:36,050 --> 01:11:37,741
The propensity of
evidence suggests

1268
01:11:37,776 --> 01:11:42,608
it is likely that the
accused was the killer.

1269
01:11:42,643 --> 01:11:47,164
But it cannot be proved
beyond reasonable doubt.

1270
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:49,960
So, based on those findings,

1271
01:11:49,995 --> 01:11:51,721
the verdict must be...

1272
01:11:51,755 --> 01:11:53,654
on count six,

1273
01:11:53,688 --> 01:11:56,691
the willful murder
of Sarah Spiers...

1274
01:11:56,726 --> 01:11:57,899
not guilty.

1275
01:13:19,981 --> 01:13:22,467
Denis: We pray for
Ciara all the time.

1276
01:13:22,501 --> 01:13:26,091
Whenever Una and I see a
young woman of Ciara's age,

1277
01:13:26,125 --> 01:13:28,265
well, we think of her still.

1278
01:13:28,300 --> 01:13:32,200
I always said that Ciara...

1279
01:13:32,235 --> 01:13:33,892
Ciara would fight for her life.

1280
01:13:33,926 --> 01:13:37,689
Little did I know
how... well, how...

1281
01:13:37,723 --> 01:13:39,967
prophetic those words would be.

1282
01:14:09,237 --> 01:14:12,793
It's hard to understand.

1283
01:14:12,827 --> 01:14:16,210
We interviewed 16,000 men

1284
01:14:16,244 --> 01:14:18,488
and his name never came up.

1285
01:14:20,904 --> 01:14:23,251
He was never on our radar.

1286
01:14:25,150 --> 01:14:28,774
And it's hard not to wonder

1287
01:14:28,809 --> 01:14:31,743
what Sarah's life...
and ours would be like

1288
01:14:31,777 --> 01:14:34,297
if she hadn't been
taken from us.

1289
01:14:35,781 --> 01:14:39,682
She would have had kids.

1290
01:14:39,716 --> 01:14:43,202
You say something, love?

1291
01:14:43,237 --> 01:14:45,204
Sarah loved kids.

1292
01:14:57,803 --> 01:15:01,048
This isn't over.

1293
01:15:01,082 --> 01:15:03,222
We'll keep looking for her.

1294
01:15:07,054 --> 01:15:10,713
Thanks for everything you've
done for us, Detective.

1295
01:15:10,747 --> 01:15:12,784
You treated us right.