1 00:00:01,543 --> 00:00:02,961 [TV static drones] 2 00:00:03,044 --> 00:00:06,047 [bright tone] 3 00:00:12,178 --> 00:00:13,930 [alert drones] 4 00:00:14,013 --> 00:00:16,433 - The world knows I'm a bullshitter. 5 00:00:16,516 --> 00:00:17,976 Like, sometimes when you're telling a story, 6 00:00:18,059 --> 00:00:20,103 you want to add a little barbecue sauce. 7 00:00:20,186 --> 00:00:21,312 I don't want to go, 8 00:00:21,396 --> 00:00:23,690 "I walked to the store and bought a loaf of bread." 9 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:25,108 Like, right, that's the gist of the story, 10 00:00:25,191 --> 00:00:27,610 but as I was walking to a store, 11 00:00:27,694 --> 00:00:30,363 a dog started chasing me and I ran up the tree. 12 00:00:30,447 --> 00:00:32,741 The branch broke. I landed on my back. 13 00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:33,742 And then when I land, 14 00:00:33,825 --> 00:00:34,993 I thought the dog was gonna bite me, 15 00:00:35,076 --> 00:00:36,453 but he licked me in the face. 16 00:00:36,536 --> 00:00:37,454 And then the lady came out, 17 00:00:37,537 --> 00:00:39,080 and, oh, my God, she was beautiful. 18 00:00:39,164 --> 00:00:40,582 And she was single. And now we're married. 19 00:00:40,665 --> 00:00:42,208 Like, you just have to-- [alert beeps] 20 00:00:42,292 --> 00:00:45,253 I'm not lyin'; I just like to add a little, you know. 21 00:00:49,966 --> 00:00:52,969 [Cyndi Lauper's "Time After Time" playing] 22 00:00:53,052 --> 00:00:54,846 DJ Diesel, white guy classics. 23 00:00:54,929 --> 00:00:57,348 White guy classics. White guy classics. 24 00:00:57,432 --> 00:00:59,267 ♪ ♪ 25 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,521 [a-ha's "Take On Me" playing] 26 00:01:03,605 --> 00:01:07,859 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:07,942 --> 00:01:10,153 [laughter] 28 00:01:10,236 --> 00:01:11,613 That's how we did it in high school. 29 00:01:11,696 --> 00:01:12,989 ♪ ♪ 30 00:01:13,072 --> 00:01:15,450 Yeah. [chuckles] 31 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:17,285 Yeah, that's how we did it. [laughs] 32 00:01:17,368 --> 00:01:19,412 - Meet Shaquille O'Neal. 33 00:01:19,496 --> 00:01:21,790 Averaging 47 points a game, 34 00:01:21,873 --> 00:01:23,958 Shaquille's a man among boys on the court. 35 00:01:24,042 --> 00:01:26,044 - That's a seven-footer! Are you serious? 36 00:01:26,127 --> 00:01:28,671 - LSU's Shaquille O'Neal is already being heralded 37 00:01:28,755 --> 00:01:30,340 as one of the top centers in the universe. 38 00:01:30,423 --> 00:01:31,883 - Square off, and they're brawling. 39 00:01:31,966 --> 00:01:35,386 - The Orlando Magic selects Shaquille O'Neal 40 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:37,680 from Louisiana State University. 41 00:01:37,764 --> 00:01:40,517 - He brought the whole thing down. 42 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,352 - I would like to present to Shaquille O'Neal 43 00:01:42,435 --> 00:01:45,104 the Most Valuable Rookie of the Year award. 44 00:01:45,188 --> 00:01:47,649 - And the young Orlando Magic have come here to win 45 00:01:47,732 --> 00:01:48,858 in Chicago. 46 00:01:48,942 --> 00:01:51,653 - They have swept the Orlando Magic! 47 00:01:51,736 --> 00:01:53,822 - Shaq signed the largest deal in sports history 48 00:01:53,905 --> 00:01:55,990 with the Los Angeles Lakers. 49 00:01:56,074 --> 00:01:58,952 - NBA MVP Shaquille O'Neal. 50 00:01:59,035 --> 00:02:01,204 - ♪ Take me on ♪ 51 00:02:01,287 --> 00:02:03,039 ♪ Take on me ♪ 52 00:02:03,122 --> 00:02:05,208 - I'ma bring the championship to Miami, I promise. 53 00:02:05,291 --> 00:02:07,585 - Congratulations, Miami. 54 00:02:07,669 --> 00:02:09,420 - ♪ In a day or two ♪ 55 00:02:09,504 --> 00:02:11,131 - Give it up to the greatest big man 56 00:02:11,214 --> 00:02:12,382 to ever play the game. 57 00:02:12,465 --> 00:02:14,300 - Can you dig it? 58 00:02:17,387 --> 00:02:20,390 - My mother comes from a very religious family. 59 00:02:20,473 --> 00:02:22,892 So after I was born, we were outcasted. 60 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:26,104 - Well, it was 1970s. 61 00:02:26,187 --> 00:02:27,647 And a lot of the young women were looking 62 00:02:27,730 --> 00:02:30,191 for unique names for their children. 63 00:02:30,275 --> 00:02:31,860 And I wanted him to have a name 64 00:02:31,943 --> 00:02:33,987 that really spoke to who he was. 65 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:36,656 So we looked into a book of Islamic names. 66 00:02:36,739 --> 00:02:39,701 Shaquille, meaning "little one," 67 00:02:39,784 --> 00:02:41,452 Rashaun, meaning "warrior," 68 00:02:41,536 --> 00:02:43,872 and you know our last name, O'Neal. 69 00:02:43,955 --> 00:02:47,041 Shaquille Rashaun O'Neal. 70 00:02:47,125 --> 00:02:49,419 - She brought me home to my grandmother's house. 71 00:02:49,502 --> 00:02:51,921 And it was like she saw a ray of light. 72 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:53,423 'Cause I'ma tell you about the elderly women 73 00:02:53,506 --> 00:02:54,424 in my family. 74 00:02:54,507 --> 00:02:56,259 All the stuff that's happened to me now? 75 00:02:56,342 --> 00:02:57,552 They knew. 76 00:02:57,635 --> 00:02:59,220 They knew. 77 00:02:59,304 --> 00:03:00,471 They would always say... 78 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:02,265 - "Something special about that one." 79 00:03:02,891 --> 00:03:05,143 It was something, something special. 80 00:03:05,226 --> 00:03:08,771 We lived in a time where we had civil unrest. 81 00:03:08,855 --> 00:03:11,441 A lot of things were a Black and white issue. 82 00:03:11,524 --> 00:03:14,068 And there was just stress outside of the home. 83 00:03:14,152 --> 00:03:16,738 So laughter was one of the ways that we came together 84 00:03:16,821 --> 00:03:19,240 and just really enjoyed being together. 85 00:03:19,324 --> 00:03:21,242 And it made for a big, happy family. 86 00:03:21,326 --> 00:03:23,077 We call him Daddy Shaq sometimes 87 00:03:23,161 --> 00:03:25,246 'cause he was the oldest, and so he was the bossy one. 88 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:28,082 And then we had Lateefah. She's the sensitive one. 89 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:29,083 And then we had Ayesha. 90 00:03:29,167 --> 00:03:30,793 She was the one that was full of joy 91 00:03:30,877 --> 00:03:32,420 and full of laughter. 92 00:03:32,503 --> 00:03:33,630 And we got Jamal. 93 00:03:33,713 --> 00:03:36,633 He took on a piece of everybody else's personality. 94 00:03:36,716 --> 00:03:39,886 And then Phil being that strong disciplinarian. 95 00:03:39,969 --> 00:03:41,638 And then here I am, I'm the peacemaker. 96 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:44,641 So we had a good time with our family. 97 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:47,018 - Tell me about your service in the military. 98 00:03:47,101 --> 00:03:48,770 - Well, I'm stationed at Fort Sam Houston, Texas, 99 00:03:48,853 --> 00:03:49,938 in San Antonio. 100 00:03:50,021 --> 00:03:51,981 I'm a supply sergeant there. - Mm-hmm. 101 00:03:52,065 --> 00:03:54,651 - I'm assigned to the Academy of Health Science. 102 00:03:54,734 --> 00:03:56,110 - Mm-hmm. Looks like you've seen 103 00:03:56,194 --> 00:03:57,195 quite a bit of service too. 104 00:03:57,278 --> 00:03:59,656 - Oh, I've been there for 18 1/2 years. 105 00:03:59,739 --> 00:04:01,991 - I remember playing ball with his dad. 106 00:04:02,075 --> 00:04:03,993 We used to play every Sunday. 107 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:06,913 Phil was just a absolute beast. 108 00:04:06,996 --> 00:04:10,124 He grew up inner city, where he played sports. 109 00:04:10,208 --> 00:04:12,126 And then he was a military man. 110 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:13,670 - We got married when Shaquille 111 00:04:13,753 --> 00:04:15,171 was close to two years old. 112 00:04:15,254 --> 00:04:16,172 So Phil was his father. 113 00:04:16,255 --> 00:04:18,341 And he's the only man and father 114 00:04:18,424 --> 00:04:20,009 that Shaquille has ever known. 115 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:23,680 - We were all product of inner-city strength. 116 00:04:23,763 --> 00:04:26,349 Phil made sure that his kids 117 00:04:26,432 --> 00:04:28,476 wouldn't follow that same pattern. 118 00:04:28,559 --> 00:04:29,644 - Oh, it was a lot of love, 119 00:04:29,727 --> 00:04:30,853 a lot of discipline. 120 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:32,105 Like, my dad didn't-- 121 00:04:32,188 --> 00:04:33,815 he did some talking, 122 00:04:33,898 --> 00:04:36,567 but if you didn't listen, if you disobeyed, 123 00:04:36,651 --> 00:04:39,153 he'd put the crackdown on us. 124 00:04:39,237 --> 00:04:40,279 - He always told me, 125 00:04:40,363 --> 00:04:42,198 "I'ma make you better than I was." 126 00:04:42,281 --> 00:04:43,491 - And my dad would always tell us, 127 00:04:43,574 --> 00:04:45,284 "Y'all might hate my ways..." 128 00:04:45,368 --> 00:04:47,328 - "But you love my results." 129 00:04:47,412 --> 00:04:48,663 You ever heard that one? 130 00:04:48,746 --> 00:04:49,998 - The way I got a spankin', 131 00:04:50,081 --> 00:04:51,332 if you're looking on the outside, 132 00:04:51,416 --> 00:04:53,459 you would bring up the A word. 133 00:04:53,543 --> 00:04:54,502 But he would never come in 134 00:04:54,585 --> 00:04:56,713 and just knock me out for no reason. 135 00:04:56,796 --> 00:04:58,923 I used to do a lot of kid stuff. 136 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:00,717 Then a strange thing happens. 137 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,552 As I'm starting to figure things out 138 00:05:02,635 --> 00:05:04,887 and be more responsible around the house, 139 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:07,056 I realized that my last name is different 140 00:05:07,140 --> 00:05:08,975 from my brother's and sisters'. 141 00:05:09,058 --> 00:05:11,894 So I said, "Mommy, why is my name Shaquille O'Neal 142 00:05:11,978 --> 00:05:14,230 and Jamal, Lateefah, 143 00:05:14,313 --> 00:05:16,524 and Ayesha's last name is Harrison? 144 00:05:16,607 --> 00:05:18,651 - We were just told that Shaquille was born 145 00:05:18,735 --> 00:05:21,070 before my mom and dad got married. 146 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:24,323 He kept the name O'Neal because it just sounded good. 147 00:05:24,407 --> 00:05:27,577 - And she said, "Baby, I always wanted 148 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:29,746 "to tell you this. 149 00:05:29,829 --> 00:05:32,540 Sarge is not your real father." 150 00:05:32,623 --> 00:05:34,709 What? 151 00:05:34,792 --> 00:05:37,295 - I wanted to ensure that he knew the truth. 152 00:05:37,378 --> 00:05:40,298 And I introduced him when he got to an age 153 00:05:40,381 --> 00:05:41,716 where he would understand, 154 00:05:41,799 --> 00:05:44,135 because I didn't want him to hear that from anybody else. 155 00:05:44,218 --> 00:05:46,429 - She said, "Would you like to meet your real father?" 156 00:05:46,512 --> 00:05:49,098 - "Yeah, I can get away from this motherfucker now 157 00:05:49,182 --> 00:05:50,767 and go live with my other dad." 158 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:54,145 And we get in the car, and guess where we end up at. 159 00:05:54,228 --> 00:05:57,065 The same projects I was born and raised in. 160 00:05:57,148 --> 00:05:59,317 So we go in this guy's house, Joe Toney, 161 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,735 and we're sittin' talkin'. 162 00:06:00,818 --> 00:06:03,696 But I'm lookin' around like... 163 00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:05,573 "I'm not comin' back to this shit." 164 00:06:05,656 --> 00:06:07,241 - He didn't care. 165 00:06:07,325 --> 00:06:08,785 [chuckles] 166 00:06:08,868 --> 00:06:10,244 He's like, "Okay." 167 00:06:10,328 --> 00:06:11,579 - This guy-- 168 00:06:11,662 --> 00:06:12,955 at two years old when you married him, 169 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:15,249 and I look at him and all the spankings I took, 170 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:16,959 that this is my daddy. 171 00:06:17,043 --> 00:06:19,420 [dramatic music] 172 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:21,798 The power of love is great. 173 00:06:21,881 --> 00:06:24,467 We had so much love growing up. 174 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:25,968 I thought I was rich. 175 00:06:26,052 --> 00:06:27,011 - Money was tight, 176 00:06:27,095 --> 00:06:29,305 but the love was overpowering the money, 177 00:06:29,388 --> 00:06:32,225 so we just all had this bond. 178 00:06:32,308 --> 00:06:33,810 - Our father had this motto, 179 00:06:33,893 --> 00:06:35,478 "If one jump in, 180 00:06:35,561 --> 00:06:36,938 we all jump in." 181 00:06:37,021 --> 00:06:39,440 One time, this girl, she hit me in the mouth. 182 00:06:39,524 --> 00:06:42,193 And I ran and told my sister. 183 00:06:42,276 --> 00:06:44,946 - So I just immediately went and hit her. 184 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:47,281 Her sister came from the side and blindsided me, 185 00:06:47,365 --> 00:06:49,075 so I fell on my back. 186 00:06:49,158 --> 00:06:52,203 So Shaquille grabbed the sister by the collar, 187 00:06:52,286 --> 00:06:55,289 and he took Ayesha, our younger sister's hand 188 00:06:55,373 --> 00:06:58,417 and started hitting her upside the face. 189 00:06:58,501 --> 00:07:01,087 And then the brother came down there-- 190 00:07:01,170 --> 00:07:02,630 And this is when Shaquille-- he was, like, 191 00:07:02,713 --> 00:07:05,341 all into wrestling, so he picked the brother up 192 00:07:05,424 --> 00:07:07,343 and he did, like, a backbreaker on him, 193 00:07:07,426 --> 00:07:09,178 and the guy's all on the floor. 194 00:07:09,262 --> 00:07:10,888 And then the mom came, and she's yelling. 195 00:07:10,972 --> 00:07:12,181 She's like, "Hey!" 196 00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:14,016 And then Shaquille's like, "Oh, my God, we gotta go. 197 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:15,268 Let's run." 198 00:07:15,351 --> 00:07:17,228 So he grabbed us all up, and we took off running. 199 00:07:17,311 --> 00:07:18,938 And we get home, then... 200 00:07:19,021 --> 00:07:20,314 [knocking] 201 00:07:20,398 --> 00:07:22,316 Knock on the door, and she was like, 202 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,027 "Yeah, your kids beat up my kids. 203 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:27,989 "Your son did some kind of move on my son, 204 00:07:28,072 --> 00:07:30,491 and now his back is all hurting." 205 00:07:30,575 --> 00:07:33,244 And my dad was like, "Ooh, ooh, I'ma get y'all. 206 00:07:33,327 --> 00:07:34,287 Wait when they leave." 207 00:07:34,370 --> 00:07:36,164 My dad closed the door, and he was like, 208 00:07:36,247 --> 00:07:39,000 "That's right. That's what I'm talking about." 209 00:07:39,083 --> 00:07:41,085 [laughs] "One of y'all get in a fight, 210 00:07:41,169 --> 00:07:42,461 y'all all get in a fight." 211 00:07:42,545 --> 00:07:43,921 - We all looked out for each other. 212 00:07:44,005 --> 00:07:45,423 That's just the way it was. 213 00:07:45,506 --> 00:07:47,884 - Shaquille felt like he had to take care of us. 214 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:49,594 "Listen, y'all are number one." 215 00:07:49,677 --> 00:07:52,221 Never, "Okay, you do you." 216 00:07:52,305 --> 00:07:53,848 No, it's not like that. 217 00:07:54,390 --> 00:07:58,102 - Around Christmastime, my dad sits me down. 218 00:07:58,186 --> 00:08:00,897 Said, "Look, dog, you know, 219 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:02,565 "when you get married you'll understand this. 220 00:08:02,648 --> 00:08:03,858 "You gotta take care of the ladies. 221 00:08:03,941 --> 00:08:05,860 "You always have to protect, 222 00:08:05,943 --> 00:08:08,112 "provide, and love for the ladies. 223 00:08:08,196 --> 00:08:10,031 "You know, I know you want the big boom box and all that, 224 00:08:10,114 --> 00:08:11,699 "but I can't get that right now. 225 00:08:11,782 --> 00:08:13,034 Next payday, I'll get it for you." 226 00:08:13,117 --> 00:08:14,577 "No, that's cool." 227 00:08:14,660 --> 00:08:16,078 'Cause I'm all about family. 228 00:08:16,162 --> 00:08:17,538 And if I come in the house 229 00:08:17,622 --> 00:08:20,082 and see everybody smiling, I don't need nothing. 230 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:23,502 I'm asleep in the room-- not asleep, just fake sleep. 231 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:25,254 So I hear everybody opening up their stuff, 232 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:27,048 and I'm just laying there. 233 00:08:28,424 --> 00:08:29,884 And something hit me in the stomach. 234 00:08:29,967 --> 00:08:31,594 "Oh!" 235 00:08:31,677 --> 00:08:33,596 And I look, and it was an autographed-- 236 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,766 fake autograph--but it was an autographed Dr. J ball. 237 00:08:36,849 --> 00:08:38,059 And then I look on the ground, 238 00:08:38,142 --> 00:08:39,393 and there was a little boom box. 239 00:08:39,477 --> 00:08:40,937 It wasn't no big one. 240 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:43,064 And he's like, "I appreciate you, big man." 241 00:08:43,147 --> 00:08:45,524 "No, I appreciate you, sir." 242 00:08:45,608 --> 00:08:47,276 That was the best Christmas ever. 243 00:08:48,861 --> 00:08:51,864 - I think what carries him is the love and the support 244 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:53,574 that he always got from Phil. 245 00:08:53,658 --> 00:08:54,909 He didn't understand it at first. 246 00:08:54,992 --> 00:08:57,119 He said, "Well, why did I get so many whuppings?" 247 00:08:57,203 --> 00:08:58,412 [laughs] 248 00:08:58,496 --> 00:09:01,499 I said, "Because you needed to be disciplined. 249 00:09:01,582 --> 00:09:03,918 "You needed to be taught, and sometimes that was 250 00:09:04,001 --> 00:09:05,920 the only way to get your attention." 251 00:09:06,003 --> 00:09:09,966 But he had to realize that it was for his good. 252 00:09:10,049 --> 00:09:12,218 You don't always understand why. 253 00:09:12,301 --> 00:09:14,095 But you appreciate it when you get older, 254 00:09:14,178 --> 00:09:15,680 because had it gone a different way, 255 00:09:15,763 --> 00:09:18,849 he may not be the man that he is today. 256 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:21,602 - I had three escapes. 257 00:09:21,686 --> 00:09:24,480 After I'd get whupped and get done cryin', 258 00:09:24,563 --> 00:09:26,440 it was like God gave me a certain remote. 259 00:09:26,524 --> 00:09:28,109 - You know those old TVs where you had to turn? 260 00:09:28,192 --> 00:09:29,777 - [mimics TV dial clicking] [TV dial clicks] 261 00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:30,736 - When it would go out, 262 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:31,779 you'd have to hit it on the side? 263 00:09:31,862 --> 00:09:32,822 - [vocalizes] 264 00:09:32,905 --> 00:09:34,448 'Cause "Good Times" is coming on. 265 00:09:34,532 --> 00:09:35,574 - Hello. 266 00:09:35,658 --> 00:09:37,827 - After "Good Times," here comes "Sanford and Son." 267 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:39,787 - Son, you worthless. 268 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:42,290 - After "Sanford and Son," here comes "The Jeffersons." 269 00:09:42,373 --> 00:09:44,166 [laughter] 270 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:46,002 Every night. 271 00:09:46,085 --> 00:09:48,546 But then the movie that changed my life, 272 00:09:48,629 --> 00:09:51,090 called "Fish That Saved Pittsburgh." 273 00:09:51,173 --> 00:09:52,800 And the movie's about a young guy. 274 00:09:52,883 --> 00:09:56,053 He had to find Dr. J to get him to play in this game. 275 00:09:56,137 --> 00:09:58,889 And then my father knew the love I had for the movie. 276 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:01,183 He said, "Son, if you pass the next grade, 277 00:10:01,267 --> 00:10:03,144 I'll take you to see Dr. J." 278 00:10:03,227 --> 00:10:06,480 "Him? He's real?" 279 00:10:06,564 --> 00:10:08,441 So I'm busting my ass in school, boom, boom, boom. 280 00:10:08,524 --> 00:10:10,985 Not an A, B guy. Cs. 281 00:10:11,068 --> 00:10:12,695 And then one day, I'm sittin' in the room, 282 00:10:12,778 --> 00:10:14,155 and it was just me and him. 283 00:10:14,238 --> 00:10:16,157 He said, "Let's take a ride." [engine turning over] 284 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,951 We get in our little Toyota Corolla. 285 00:10:19,035 --> 00:10:20,244 - ♪ Toyota ♪ 286 00:10:20,328 --> 00:10:22,204 - We pull up to Madison Square Garden, 287 00:10:22,288 --> 00:10:23,873 and we go way to the top. 288 00:10:23,956 --> 00:10:26,042 And then finally when I look down, 289 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:27,335 Dr. J goes baseline. 290 00:10:27,418 --> 00:10:29,712 Dunks. Crowd go cra-- [mimics crowd cheering] 291 00:10:29,795 --> 00:10:32,048 It was like some spirits just entered my body. 292 00:10:32,131 --> 00:10:34,008 [vocalizes] 293 00:10:34,091 --> 00:10:35,217 And I just immediately turned to my father. 294 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:38,054 I said, "Sir, I know what I want to be when I grow up." 295 00:10:38,137 --> 00:10:40,556 In his words, "If you listen to me, 296 00:10:40,639 --> 00:10:43,059 I'll make you one of the best basketball players ever." 297 00:10:43,142 --> 00:10:44,727 [light music] 298 00:10:44,810 --> 00:10:47,271 - The pituitary gland begins to secrete 299 00:10:47,355 --> 00:10:49,273 the growth hormone. 300 00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:52,151 The boy grows rapidly in height, weight, 301 00:10:52,234 --> 00:10:53,277 and strength. 302 00:10:53,361 --> 00:10:54,904 But the rapid growth of his muscles 303 00:10:54,987 --> 00:10:57,531 gives him a great need for activity. 304 00:10:57,615 --> 00:11:00,409 And this may express itself in many ways. 305 00:11:00,493 --> 00:11:03,371 - My grandfather was 7 foot before we even realized 306 00:11:03,454 --> 00:11:05,373 that that was something kind of special. 307 00:11:05,456 --> 00:11:07,750 And I didn't realize that I would ever have children 308 00:11:07,833 --> 00:11:11,420 that would grow up to be tall and handsome like that. 309 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:14,590 Shaquille always grew a height above 310 00:11:14,673 --> 00:11:17,426 or maybe a few pounds above his peers. 311 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:20,262 - I seen my mother knock a bus driver out one time. 312 00:11:20,346 --> 00:11:22,807 Five and under can ride free. 313 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:25,226 And I'm three, four, but I'm a big kid. 314 00:11:25,309 --> 00:11:26,602 And the guy's tellin' my mama, 315 00:11:26,685 --> 00:11:29,188 "If he's five, he must be retarded or something." 316 00:11:29,271 --> 00:11:31,357 And my mom hit him with that bing, bing. 317 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,400 - Well, I--[chuckles] 318 00:11:32,483 --> 00:11:34,402 I had to, because they'd make it seem 319 00:11:34,485 --> 00:11:36,737 like it was something really wrong with that. 320 00:11:36,821 --> 00:11:38,030 But we learned so much. 321 00:11:38,114 --> 00:11:40,699 And we let him know that it's okay. 322 00:11:40,783 --> 00:11:42,076 He didn't want to be different. 323 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:44,328 He wanted to be the same height, 324 00:11:44,412 --> 00:11:46,414 the same size as all of his peers. 325 00:11:46,497 --> 00:11:49,750 But he wasn't, to he had to accept that fact, the reality. 326 00:11:49,834 --> 00:11:51,127 That was his life. 327 00:11:51,210 --> 00:11:53,796 - You either was gonna get the clown Shaquille, 328 00:11:53,879 --> 00:11:56,132 or you was gonna get the bully Shaquille. 329 00:11:56,215 --> 00:11:57,341 There wasn't no middle. 330 00:11:57,425 --> 00:11:58,926 See, being big, 331 00:11:59,009 --> 00:12:01,095 a lot of people thought I was a holdback. 332 00:12:01,178 --> 00:12:03,347 But actually, I skipped first grade, 333 00:12:03,431 --> 00:12:05,516 so--which means I was ahead. 334 00:12:05,599 --> 00:12:08,644 "You know, you're 11? 335 00:12:08,727 --> 00:12:10,479 "How are you 11 and you're 6'4"? 336 00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:12,356 You must be stupid or something." 337 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,984 So now I'm like, "What'd you just say? 338 00:12:15,067 --> 00:12:17,445 3:00. Outside in the back." 339 00:12:17,528 --> 00:12:19,655 But because of "Good Times," "Sanford and Son," 340 00:12:19,738 --> 00:12:22,741 "Jeffersons," I love to laugh. 341 00:12:22,825 --> 00:12:24,743 I didn't want to fight every day. 342 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:26,996 Let's laugh. 343 00:12:27,079 --> 00:12:28,622 Let's joke around. 344 00:12:28,706 --> 00:12:31,125 Let's make spit wads and throw them at the teacher, 345 00:12:31,208 --> 00:12:32,918 and let's have fun. 346 00:12:33,961 --> 00:12:36,422 It was a way of being accepted. 347 00:12:36,505 --> 00:12:39,800 Didn't want to be looked at as the tall kid 348 00:12:39,884 --> 00:12:42,553 who, by the way, was terrible at sports. 349 00:12:42,636 --> 00:12:44,847 - Who taught him how to play basketball? 350 00:12:44,930 --> 00:12:46,390 You know, it's hard to say. 351 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:48,142 Phil taught him a lot about basketball, 352 00:12:48,225 --> 00:12:51,020 'cause he began coaching him when he was six years old. 353 00:12:51,103 --> 00:12:53,147 Now, I played basketball too, 354 00:12:53,230 --> 00:12:54,940 so I taught him a trick or two. 355 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:57,109 [eerie music] 356 00:12:57,193 --> 00:12:58,861 - So when I first started to play, 357 00:12:58,944 --> 00:13:00,321 my father was like, "Aah." 358 00:13:00,404 --> 00:13:01,489 He's not like, "Here you go." 359 00:13:01,572 --> 00:13:03,365 Like, he--and I'd go like this. 360 00:13:03,449 --> 00:13:04,533 So I can remember one day, he said, 361 00:13:04,617 --> 00:13:07,828 "Put your hands on your side and don't move." 362 00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:09,163 And he threw it. I moved. "What the f-- 363 00:13:09,246 --> 00:13:10,873 didn't I say don't move?" 364 00:13:10,956 --> 00:13:12,249 So now I've gotta put my hands on my side, 365 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:14,710 and chest pass right to the face. 366 00:13:14,793 --> 00:13:16,420 Boom. 367 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:18,881 "Look, see? How was that?" 368 00:13:20,132 --> 00:13:21,217 The point he was trying to make: 369 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:22,718 stop being scared of the ball. 370 00:13:22,801 --> 00:13:24,345 'Cause even if you get hit, 371 00:13:24,428 --> 00:13:25,554 this is how it's gonna feel. 372 00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:26,764 I ain't gonna kill you. 373 00:13:26,847 --> 00:13:29,433 So after that, my hands became impeccable. 374 00:13:29,517 --> 00:13:31,894 Now it's time to put me on the team and coach me. 375 00:13:31,977 --> 00:13:33,687 I had two moves. 376 00:13:33,771 --> 00:13:35,689 Catch it, look left, look right, 377 00:13:35,773 --> 00:13:38,108 and dribble, off the glass. 378 00:13:38,192 --> 00:13:41,278 And I can remember a story, we were in Bayonne, New Jersey. 379 00:13:41,362 --> 00:13:42,196 I'm not really that good. 380 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:43,572 I'm just bigger than everybody. 381 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:46,742 And I can remember this guy storm on the basketball court, 382 00:13:46,825 --> 00:13:48,077 grab his son. 383 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,119 This is what he says: 384 00:13:49,203 --> 00:13:51,622 "No way that motherfucker's ten years old. 385 00:13:51,705 --> 00:13:53,082 "If that motherfucker is ten years old, 386 00:13:53,165 --> 00:13:54,833 "he's gonna be one of the best NBA players 387 00:13:54,917 --> 00:13:56,293 to ever fuckin' play the game." 388 00:13:56,377 --> 00:13:57,920 And he walks off. He takes his kid. 389 00:13:58,003 --> 00:13:59,380 They forfeit the game. 390 00:13:59,463 --> 00:14:01,507 And my dad's like, "See? See? 391 00:14:01,590 --> 00:14:04,051 If you listen to me, I'ma make you the best player ever." 392 00:14:06,345 --> 00:14:08,847 I went from the projects of Newark, New Jersey, 393 00:14:08,931 --> 00:14:11,600 to down South, Hinesville, Georgia. 394 00:14:11,684 --> 00:14:13,936 First time I seen a whole bunch of white people 395 00:14:14,019 --> 00:14:15,479 at the same time. 396 00:14:15,563 --> 00:14:17,815 First day of school, "What's up, my nigga?" 397 00:14:18,983 --> 00:14:20,609 "Is that white boy supposed to call me that? 398 00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:23,737 3:00. I'm fucking you up at 3:00." 399 00:14:23,821 --> 00:14:26,073 I gave him the beatdown of his life. 400 00:14:26,156 --> 00:14:27,741 He starts having a seizure. 401 00:14:27,825 --> 00:14:30,411 There was a guy who saw that, 402 00:14:30,494 --> 00:14:32,705 came, put the pen in his mouth, 403 00:14:32,788 --> 00:14:34,331 and saved this kid's life. 404 00:14:34,415 --> 00:14:37,167 Now, if he wasn't there, 405 00:14:37,251 --> 00:14:38,460 none of this would be. 406 00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:40,963 [sirens wailing] The cops come, 407 00:14:41,046 --> 00:14:42,673 talk to my dad, 408 00:14:42,756 --> 00:14:44,341 and he spanks me again. 409 00:14:44,425 --> 00:14:46,010 He gives me the, "You know what could have happened 410 00:14:46,093 --> 00:14:47,469 if you would have killed this kid?" 411 00:14:47,553 --> 00:14:50,848 So now the bully side is dead. 412 00:14:50,931 --> 00:14:53,183 Dead. 413 00:14:53,267 --> 00:14:55,102 No way. 414 00:14:55,185 --> 00:14:57,187 'Cause it only takes one mistake. 415 00:14:57,271 --> 00:14:59,273 You can have a million dreams. 416 00:14:59,356 --> 00:15:00,733 Only takes one mistake. 417 00:15:00,816 --> 00:15:02,443 [cell doors clang] At that point in my life, 418 00:15:02,526 --> 00:15:04,695 I was dreamin' about being a rapper. 419 00:15:04,778 --> 00:15:06,447 I was dreamin' about being an actor. 420 00:15:06,530 --> 00:15:08,741 I was dreamin' about being rich. 421 00:15:08,824 --> 00:15:10,909 I was dreamin' about being a basketball player. 422 00:15:10,993 --> 00:15:12,161 I was just dreamin'. 423 00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:14,330 And then if all that didn't work, guess what. 424 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:15,831 I'm joining the army. 425 00:15:15,914 --> 00:15:19,043 'Cause you know why? This is a pretty good life. 426 00:15:19,126 --> 00:15:20,753 Always had plans. 427 00:15:20,836 --> 00:15:23,255 I'm never going to the bottom, ever. 428 00:15:23,339 --> 00:15:24,673 'Cause I've seen the bottom. 429 00:15:24,757 --> 00:15:26,008 We just came from the bottom. 430 00:15:26,091 --> 00:15:27,885 This guy Philip Harrison brought us somewhere. 431 00:15:27,968 --> 00:15:29,178 It ain't at the top. 432 00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:30,554 I ain't going back to the bottom. 433 00:15:30,638 --> 00:15:32,014 Now when I leave Georgia, 434 00:15:32,097 --> 00:15:33,849 we going to a place called Germany. 435 00:15:33,932 --> 00:15:35,851 [projector clicking] 436 00:15:35,934 --> 00:15:37,269 I'm like, "What's that?" 437 00:15:37,353 --> 00:15:39,063 "Get your ass on the plane!" 438 00:15:40,064 --> 00:15:41,315 Cargo plane. 439 00:15:41,398 --> 00:15:42,691 [plane engine humming] 440 00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:45,027 - There were rows and rows of military families 441 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:47,946 going to these different stations in Germany, 442 00:15:48,030 --> 00:15:49,948 so we didn't feel so alone. 443 00:15:50,032 --> 00:15:52,993 And I can't say that we weren't ready, 444 00:15:53,077 --> 00:15:54,995 but we were a little bit fearful 445 00:15:55,079 --> 00:15:57,831 because we had never been on an airplane before. 446 00:15:57,915 --> 00:16:00,918 And that is a long, long ride. 447 00:16:01,001 --> 00:16:03,253 - I'm like, "What the fuck is this?" 448 00:16:03,337 --> 00:16:05,214 Woods. 449 00:16:05,297 --> 00:16:07,049 Wildflecken is on a mountain. 450 00:16:07,132 --> 00:16:09,385 And the base is even smaller. 451 00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:12,221 And now I'm like, "Oh, my God." 452 00:16:12,304 --> 00:16:14,223 And I hate using this word "depression." 453 00:16:14,306 --> 00:16:16,058 It was bad. 454 00:16:16,141 --> 00:16:18,060 But it was a blessing for me, 455 00:16:18,143 --> 00:16:19,853 'cause now there's only one thing to do: 456 00:16:19,937 --> 00:16:22,189 play sports. 457 00:16:22,272 --> 00:16:23,774 I go to the base every day. 458 00:16:23,857 --> 00:16:25,526 And there's no kids up there. 459 00:16:25,609 --> 00:16:27,361 I'm only there because my father runs the gym 460 00:16:27,444 --> 00:16:29,530 and I'm not sitting at the house all day. 461 00:16:29,613 --> 00:16:31,907 "Get your ass out there and play." 462 00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:34,368 So I play. I'm terrible. 463 00:16:34,451 --> 00:16:36,912 People criticizin' me. I know it. 464 00:16:36,995 --> 00:16:39,164 My father comes in the house one day. 465 00:16:39,248 --> 00:16:40,374 He hits me in the back of the head 466 00:16:40,457 --> 00:16:42,918 with a paper. [mimics whip cracking] 467 00:16:43,001 --> 00:16:46,130 Says, "College coach comes to Wildflecken 468 00:16:46,213 --> 00:16:47,631 to speak to the troops." 469 00:16:47,715 --> 00:16:48,924 "Get your ass up. 470 00:16:49,007 --> 00:16:50,300 See if you can get a scholarship." 471 00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:51,760 But before I left, I say, 472 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:53,762 "I'm talkin' to a college coach. 473 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:55,097 Let me sound smart." 474 00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:57,182 So I... [pages fluttering] 475 00:16:58,350 --> 00:16:59,768 Extremities. 476 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:04,022 Extrem--extrem--extremities. 477 00:17:05,649 --> 00:17:06,900 - All right, now, no punches were thrown there. 478 00:17:06,984 --> 00:17:08,861 - Lookit, you see Dale Brown push Groves? 479 00:17:08,944 --> 00:17:09,903 And then Gro-- 480 00:17:09,987 --> 00:17:10,946 - It was really by accident 481 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:12,114 when I first met him 482 00:17:12,197 --> 00:17:13,615 in a place called Wildflecken 483 00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:14,783 up in the mountains. 484 00:17:14,867 --> 00:17:16,869 I was at the gym where I was putting on the clinic. 485 00:17:16,952 --> 00:17:19,413 And I'm packing my bag, and I get a tap on the shoulder. 486 00:17:19,496 --> 00:17:21,290 And I turn around, and... 487 00:17:21,373 --> 00:17:24,293 here's this giant of a guy, kind of shy. 488 00:17:24,376 --> 00:17:25,461 "Coach Brown," he said, 489 00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:27,588 I'll be trying out for the team." 490 00:17:27,671 --> 00:17:30,257 And he said, "I can't dunk a ball. 491 00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:31,717 "And I run up and down the court 492 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,469 about three, four times..." 493 00:17:33,552 --> 00:17:34,970 both: "And my lower extremities..." 494 00:17:35,053 --> 00:17:36,805 - "Tire." 495 00:17:36,889 --> 00:17:37,973 I say, "Lower extremities?" 496 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:39,767 I didn't say that to him, but I'm thinking, 497 00:17:39,850 --> 00:17:40,976 "He's a pretty smart guy." 498 00:17:41,059 --> 00:17:44,605 He said, "Can you show me some exercises to improve it?" 499 00:17:44,688 --> 00:17:46,273 "What I'll do, Soldier, when I get back to Baton Rouge 500 00:17:46,356 --> 00:17:47,608 is, I'll send you the weight training program." 501 00:17:47,691 --> 00:17:49,610 I said, "How long you been in service?" 502 00:17:49,693 --> 00:17:52,446 And he goes like this, and he goes, "Coach Brown, 503 00:17:52,529 --> 00:17:54,990 I'm only 13 years old." 504 00:17:55,073 --> 00:17:56,450 I said, "What?" 505 00:17:56,533 --> 00:17:58,118 Being the Rhodes Scholar I am, 506 00:17:58,202 --> 00:18:01,580 my next question was, "Where's your dad?" 507 00:18:01,663 --> 00:18:02,623 He said, "He's in the sauna." 508 00:18:02,706 --> 00:18:04,541 I said, "I'd like to meet him." 509 00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:06,835 So we're heading to the sauna. 510 00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:08,837 I was just putting my hand on the door 511 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:10,297 and the door burst open. 512 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:12,633 And out, coming, sweating profusely, 513 00:18:12,716 --> 00:18:14,343 military-green towel around him-- 514 00:18:14,426 --> 00:18:16,220 "That's my dad. That's my dad." 515 00:18:16,303 --> 00:18:18,055 This is important. 516 00:18:18,138 --> 00:18:20,015 I handed him my business card, and I said, 517 00:18:20,098 --> 00:18:22,559 "Sergeant Harrison," I said, "my name's Dale Brown. 518 00:18:22,643 --> 00:18:24,478 I'm the head basketball coach at LSU." 519 00:18:24,561 --> 00:18:28,148 And almost with disdain, "Excuse me, Coach Brown." 520 00:18:28,232 --> 00:18:30,859 He says, "This is all fine and good, basketball." 521 00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:33,153 But he said, "I think it's time," 522 00:18:33,237 --> 00:18:35,489 he said, "our children get degrees 523 00:18:35,572 --> 00:18:36,907 "so they can be generals in the army 524 00:18:36,990 --> 00:18:38,200 "instead of a sergeant. 525 00:18:38,283 --> 00:18:39,701 "They can be presidents of corporations 526 00:18:39,785 --> 00:18:40,994 "instead of janitors. 527 00:18:41,078 --> 00:18:43,664 "They can be head coaches instead of assistant coaches 528 00:18:43,747 --> 00:18:45,582 "running all over the country looking for players. 529 00:18:45,666 --> 00:18:47,835 "If you're interested in my son's intellect, 530 00:18:47,918 --> 00:18:49,628 we might talk someday." 531 00:18:49,711 --> 00:18:51,213 - Sends me the program. 532 00:18:51,296 --> 00:18:52,881 So I try everything. 533 00:18:52,965 --> 00:18:55,050 And I try out for the team again, 534 00:18:55,134 --> 00:18:56,260 but I don't make it. 535 00:18:56,343 --> 00:18:58,387 So I write him a tearful letter. 536 00:18:58,470 --> 00:19:02,057 "Coach, I'm sorry. It didn't work." 537 00:19:02,140 --> 00:19:03,183 - "I did everything..." 538 00:19:03,267 --> 00:19:04,560 - "Thank you for the help." - "You told me to do..." 539 00:19:04,643 --> 00:19:05,686 - "I appreciate it." - "And my high school coach 540 00:19:05,769 --> 00:19:07,271 "cut me off the team. 541 00:19:07,354 --> 00:19:10,023 "He told me I'm too slow, I'm too clumsy, 542 00:19:10,107 --> 00:19:11,358 "I have too big of feet. 543 00:19:11,441 --> 00:19:13,735 "I will never be a basketball player. 544 00:19:13,819 --> 00:19:15,571 Why don't I be a goalie in soccer?" 545 00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:17,364 So I sat behind my desk and I thought, 546 00:19:17,447 --> 00:19:19,867 "Now, what kind of a profound statement 547 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:22,703 am I gonna make to a 13-year-old child?" 548 00:19:22,786 --> 00:19:23,871 "Dear Shaquille, 549 00:19:23,954 --> 00:19:25,706 "I'm so sorry what happened to you. 550 00:19:25,789 --> 00:19:28,959 "But I found out in my life when I heard people whispering, 551 00:19:29,042 --> 00:19:31,920 "'He has no father. His mother's on welfare. 552 00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:33,130 "'He lives in a one-room apartment. 553 00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:34,923 He won't be successful,' 554 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:39,303 "if you always sincerely try to do your very best-- 555 00:19:39,386 --> 00:19:43,056 "and only you will know that-- and you never give up 556 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:44,933 "under any conditions, 557 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:48,604 sooner or later, God'll take care of everything else." 558 00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:51,523 - That's why I wanted to go to LSU. 559 00:19:51,607 --> 00:19:55,903 Because before I became this character known as "Shaq," 560 00:19:55,986 --> 00:19:57,321 nobody wanted me. 561 00:19:57,404 --> 00:20:01,033 But Dale Brown looked at me. He chose me. 562 00:20:01,116 --> 00:20:02,576 He put his hand around my shoulders 563 00:20:02,659 --> 00:20:05,287 and saw something in me that I didn't see. 564 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:07,331 ♪ ♪ 565 00:20:07,414 --> 00:20:09,416 - So I was in my office one afternoon, 566 00:20:09,499 --> 00:20:11,001 and a tall, skinny kid walked in. 567 00:20:11,084 --> 00:20:12,628 And I knew who it was, 568 00:20:12,711 --> 00:20:14,963 but I had never really introduced myself to him. 569 00:20:15,047 --> 00:20:17,299 And he said, "Coach, I want to try out 570 00:20:17,382 --> 00:20:18,342 for the basketball team." 571 00:20:18,425 --> 00:20:20,761 He said, "If you promise not to cut me, 572 00:20:20,844 --> 00:20:23,013 I promise you won't regret it." 573 00:20:23,096 --> 00:20:25,933 And I said, "Okay, we'll see how things go." 574 00:20:26,016 --> 00:20:28,268 Shaquille kind of cut his teeth 575 00:20:28,352 --> 00:20:29,853 playing down on the base gym 576 00:20:29,937 --> 00:20:32,773 against 19-, 20-, 21-year-old soldiers. 577 00:20:32,856 --> 00:20:35,317 His dad, Sergeant Harrison, would take him down, 578 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:36,610 drop him off. 579 00:20:36,693 --> 00:20:38,779 Man, I tell you what, I know at that time 580 00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:40,989 I didn't understand that guy. 581 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:43,408 He was so hard on Shaquille. He was so-- 582 00:20:43,492 --> 00:20:45,118 I think there were times Shaquille was afraid of him 583 00:20:45,202 --> 00:20:46,620 and rightfully so. 584 00:20:46,703 --> 00:20:47,996 I'm not a parent. I don't have kids. 585 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,957 It's not my place to say 586 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,292 whether it was too hard or too soft or-- 587 00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:54,795 I think the results speak for themselves. 588 00:20:54,878 --> 00:20:56,838 Let's just say this, 589 00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:59,216 Sarge had one speed: 11. 590 00:21:00,968 --> 00:21:02,511 When I first started with him, 591 00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:05,180 Shaquille's brain and his body 592 00:21:05,263 --> 00:21:07,307 is still catching up with his size. 593 00:21:07,391 --> 00:21:09,518 And there were times when he would run 594 00:21:09,601 --> 00:21:12,396 and his bones were going faster than his muscles. 595 00:21:12,479 --> 00:21:14,523 And he--it was very painful for him to run. 596 00:21:14,606 --> 00:21:17,192 And sometimes we'd run conditioning drills. 597 00:21:17,275 --> 00:21:19,194 He would cry. [indistinct yelling] 598 00:21:19,278 --> 00:21:21,989 - I had something called Osgood-Schlatter's. 599 00:21:22,072 --> 00:21:23,031 I was growing too fast, 600 00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:25,534 and my body and my knees didn't keep up. 601 00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:26,827 - And I'd pull him aside and say, 602 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:28,286 "Hey, why don't you sit this one out?" 603 00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:29,371 He said, "No, Coach. 604 00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:31,623 I'll do what everybody else does." 605 00:21:31,707 --> 00:21:34,084 As a sophomore playing on a team 606 00:21:34,167 --> 00:21:36,962 laden with seniors and a couple of juniors, 607 00:21:37,045 --> 00:21:39,381 he kind of got picked on a little bit. 608 00:21:39,464 --> 00:21:41,216 We were in a game up in Osterholz, 609 00:21:41,299 --> 00:21:43,343 which is way up in northern Germany. 610 00:21:43,427 --> 00:21:45,053 He was open inside, 611 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:46,763 and they were taking shots 612 00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:48,974 rather than kicking it down inside to him. 613 00:21:49,057 --> 00:21:50,267 So I told them at halftime, 614 00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:52,394 "If you guys don't start getting the ball inside to him, 615 00:21:52,477 --> 00:21:55,564 I'ma pull both you guys out and you're gonna sit." 616 00:21:55,647 --> 00:21:58,984 I think that one of the things that he appreciates 617 00:21:59,067 --> 00:22:00,527 is that I stood up for him. 618 00:22:02,112 --> 00:22:04,031 Playing high school ball in Europe, 619 00:22:04,114 --> 00:22:09,286 our average road trip was between four and five hours. 620 00:22:09,369 --> 00:22:10,871 When I think about the relationship 621 00:22:10,954 --> 00:22:12,539 that I've had with Shaquille, 622 00:22:12,622 --> 00:22:16,376 it was all forged on a bus to nowhere 623 00:22:16,460 --> 00:22:19,129 and talking about what young kids 624 00:22:19,212 --> 00:22:21,465 hoped for and dreamed for, 625 00:22:21,548 --> 00:22:25,635 and, "How come our moms and dads are so strict on us?" 626 00:22:25,719 --> 00:22:28,263 I was fortunate to be able, maybe, to give him 627 00:22:28,346 --> 00:22:31,266 some perspective, you know, during that time in his life 628 00:22:31,349 --> 00:22:33,935 when he was kind of forming his own opinion 629 00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:36,605 about what he thought about the world. 630 00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:37,898 So at the end of the year, 631 00:22:37,981 --> 00:22:41,026 we made it to the small schools tournament. 632 00:22:41,109 --> 00:22:43,528 Unfortunately, Shaquille's father, 633 00:22:43,612 --> 00:22:47,908 he was destined to be transferred back to the States. 634 00:22:47,991 --> 00:22:50,077 So we got a call that he was gonna be leaving. 635 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,453 We looked at the calendar. 636 00:22:51,536 --> 00:22:53,580 We're not gonna have him for the Elite Eight. 637 00:22:53,663 --> 00:22:54,915 He played in those last two games. 638 00:22:54,998 --> 00:22:57,042 He played lights out. 639 00:22:57,125 --> 00:22:58,835 We're done, we're in the locker room, 640 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:00,504 I'm talking to the team, 641 00:23:00,587 --> 00:23:03,465 and Shaquille was leaning over the counter to the sinks. 642 00:23:03,548 --> 00:23:05,300 And I noticed the sinks were wet, and I thought, 643 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:06,635 "Why is he washing his hands? 644 00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:08,470 "We--I mean, I guess we just played a game. 645 00:23:08,553 --> 00:23:09,846 I don't know." 646 00:23:09,930 --> 00:23:13,141 And I quickly realized that it wasn't water. 647 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:15,352 He was crying. 648 00:23:15,435 --> 00:23:19,314 And I knew in that moment 649 00:23:19,397 --> 00:23:22,150 how difficult it was gonna be-- 650 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,443 [clears throat] 651 00:23:23,527 --> 00:23:24,736 I knew how difficult it was gonna be 652 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:26,446 for him to leave us. 653 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:31,284 And he turned to me, and he hugged me. 654 00:23:31,368 --> 00:23:33,662 And he said, "Coach, I love you." 655 00:23:33,745 --> 00:23:35,705 And I said, "I love you too, big guy." 656 00:23:36,206 --> 00:23:37,874 That's the last time I saw him 657 00:23:37,958 --> 00:23:40,627 until he was playing for Coach Brown. 658 00:23:41,753 --> 00:23:44,131 - After my sophomore year, we leave. 659 00:23:44,214 --> 00:23:46,675 Back in Jersey and seeing family-- 660 00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:49,052 "What's happening?" Boom, boom. Lovin' and huggin'. 661 00:23:49,136 --> 00:23:50,804 We got the moving thing on top of the car. 662 00:23:50,887 --> 00:23:52,347 I'm like, "Yo, man, where we going?" 663 00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:54,182 "Shut your ass up and get in the car." 664 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,183 And we get in the car. 665 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:58,270 And we drivin' and we drivin'. 666 00:23:58,353 --> 00:24:00,772 Now I'm starting to see stuff I ain't seen in a while--cows. 667 00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:01,940 I'm like... 668 00:24:02,023 --> 00:24:04,526 And then I see, "Welcome to Texas." 669 00:24:04,609 --> 00:24:06,820 I'm like, "Texas?" 670 00:24:06,903 --> 00:24:09,489 Cowboys? 671 00:24:09,573 --> 00:24:11,992 We moved to San Antonio, Texas. 672 00:24:12,075 --> 00:24:13,368 We arrive at the school. 673 00:24:13,451 --> 00:24:15,787 And I'm talking to the principal, 674 00:24:15,871 --> 00:24:18,039 and I see this little kid walking down the hall, 675 00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:20,333 and he comes in, and, "This is Joe Cavallaro. 676 00:24:20,417 --> 00:24:22,252 He's gonna show you around." 677 00:24:22,335 --> 00:24:24,713 - I see Sergeant Harrison and Shaquille standing there. 678 00:24:24,796 --> 00:24:26,006 Obviously a basketball player, 679 00:24:26,089 --> 00:24:27,382 so about time we get some good talent 680 00:24:27,465 --> 00:24:28,592 for the basketball team. 681 00:24:28,675 --> 00:24:30,010 - He showed me around. 682 00:24:30,093 --> 00:24:31,136 And, "What about the basketball team?" 683 00:24:31,219 --> 00:24:32,471 "We ain't really that good." 684 00:24:32,554 --> 00:24:34,389 "But I want to meet some of the players." 685 00:24:34,472 --> 00:24:37,893 - Our graduating class in 1989 was 79 people. 686 00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:39,519 You couldn't go to the school unless your parents 687 00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:40,729 were in the military 688 00:24:40,812 --> 00:24:43,565 or if you parents worked at that school. 689 00:24:43,648 --> 00:24:45,734 - So because there's not a lot of kids, 690 00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:47,194 I make the team. 691 00:24:47,277 --> 00:24:48,528 I'm a starter. 692 00:24:48,612 --> 00:24:51,489 - The high school years was something very special 693 00:24:51,573 --> 00:24:54,034 because we were just coming from Germany. 694 00:24:54,117 --> 00:24:56,036 And I remember the coach said that, 695 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,873 "I don't know if he can walk and chew gum at the same time." 696 00:24:59,956 --> 00:25:02,709 We told him, "You may have to just show them. 697 00:25:02,792 --> 00:25:05,629 Don't even tell them how good you know you are." 698 00:25:05,712 --> 00:25:07,297 - Our team became immediately dominant 699 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:08,465 his junior year. 700 00:25:08,548 --> 00:25:10,050 - He began to get exposure 701 00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:12,052 all around the state of Texas. 702 00:25:12,135 --> 00:25:13,595 - My first article was 703 00:25:13,678 --> 00:25:15,847 "Cole's O'Neal 'best in the U.S.'" 704 00:25:15,931 --> 00:25:18,266 So 35-1, having a good year. 705 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,394 Semifinals going into the finals. 706 00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:22,729 Down by one. 707 00:25:22,812 --> 00:25:24,439 Shaquille O'Neal gets fouled, 708 00:25:24,522 --> 00:25:26,650 goes to the line, misses. 709 00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:29,903 [indistinct chatter] 710 00:25:29,986 --> 00:25:32,197 - We got beat in the playoffs 711 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,407 because he missed free throws. 712 00:25:34,491 --> 00:25:37,244 That stuck with him and gave him the motivation 713 00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:38,578 to do what he did his senior year, 714 00:25:38,662 --> 00:25:40,538 which was absolutely amazing. 715 00:25:40,622 --> 00:25:43,083 [indistinct chatter] [laughs] 716 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:44,584 [rhythmic clapping] 717 00:25:44,668 --> 00:25:46,169 cheerleaders: All right, Shaquille! 718 00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:47,629 - Senior in high school. 719 00:25:47,712 --> 00:25:49,297 Magic Johnson was my guy. 720 00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:51,258 So I'm smooth with the ball. 721 00:25:51,341 --> 00:25:52,300 Look-away pass. 722 00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,886 I cross this dude up at half-court, ooh, ooh. 723 00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:57,639 I go to give a nasty finger roll, and I miss. 724 00:25:57,722 --> 00:25:59,641 All of a sudden, I see this big Black dude 725 00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:01,601 walking on the court in his military fatigues. 726 00:26:01,685 --> 00:26:03,561 It's my father, the Sarge. 727 00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:05,313 He said, "Call a time-out." 728 00:26:05,397 --> 00:26:06,690 "Yes, sir." 729 00:26:06,773 --> 00:26:07,857 He said, "What you doing?" 730 00:26:07,941 --> 00:26:09,276 "Man, I'm just workin' on my Magic"-- 731 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,443 [mimics whip cracking] [TV dial clicks] 732 00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:11,611 "Fuck that." 733 00:26:13,071 --> 00:26:15,031 [gears rumbling] 734 00:26:15,115 --> 00:26:16,283 "Be Shaquille O'Neal." 735 00:26:18,868 --> 00:26:20,787 "Dunk it every fucking time." 736 00:26:22,163 --> 00:26:23,206 [thunder booming] 737 00:26:23,290 --> 00:26:25,125 And the boys knew what happened. 738 00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:27,002 They knew the Sarge done touched me up. 739 00:26:27,085 --> 00:26:28,461 - And I looked at him, 740 00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:29,546 and he was like, 741 00:26:29,629 --> 00:26:31,298 "Give me the goddamn ball." 742 00:26:31,381 --> 00:26:32,966 That's all you had to say, bro. 743 00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,343 - When I dunked, I was so fuckin' mad, 744 00:26:35,427 --> 00:26:37,554 I wanted to break the rim off for him. 745 00:26:38,221 --> 00:26:39,264 [thud] 746 00:26:39,347 --> 00:26:40,515 "Oh, this is what you want me to do?" 747 00:26:40,598 --> 00:26:42,350 [grunting] 748 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:43,560 "This good enough for you, Sarge?" 749 00:26:43,643 --> 00:26:45,812 [grunting] 750 00:26:45,895 --> 00:26:47,314 Everybody's scared. Terrified. 751 00:26:47,397 --> 00:26:49,858 [people screaming] I'ma kill your ass out here. 752 00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:50,984 - Monster. - [growls] 753 00:26:51,067 --> 00:26:52,652 - That's the monster shit, bro. 754 00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:54,237 - He's 7 feet tall, 755 00:26:54,321 --> 00:26:55,822 one of the top five high school players 756 00:26:55,905 --> 00:26:59,117 in the country, and he just turned 17. 757 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,996 Shaquille O'Neal, averaging 47 points a game 758 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:04,831 in the playoffs. 759 00:27:04,914 --> 00:27:06,207 - He started going up against these kids 760 00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:07,751 and just doing what he wanted to. 761 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,630 We beat a team 121-35. 762 00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:15,258 By the end of the game, the rims were like this... 763 00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:18,595 [crowd cheering, ball thudding] 764 00:27:18,678 --> 00:27:21,681 [dramatic music] 765 00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:23,391 ♪ ♪ 766 00:27:23,475 --> 00:27:25,935 [crowd yelling] 767 00:27:27,645 --> 00:27:29,564 Sergeant Harrison saw it before anybody. 768 00:27:29,647 --> 00:27:31,441 - [mimics whip cracking] 769 00:27:31,524 --> 00:27:32,984 So I'm in the house one day, 770 00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:35,945 and my father comes in and hits me with a paper again. 771 00:27:36,029 --> 00:27:37,155 "Look at this motherfucker." 772 00:27:37,238 --> 00:27:38,865 - The contact with the left hand. 773 00:27:38,948 --> 00:27:40,533 - There was a guy named Jon Koncak. 774 00:27:40,617 --> 00:27:42,494 - Takes it to the basket and rattles it home. 775 00:27:42,577 --> 00:27:44,788 - He signed $15 million for three. 776 00:27:44,871 --> 00:27:46,706 "Get your shit. We gonna watch him play." 777 00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:48,041 - ♪ Toyota ♪ 778 00:27:48,124 --> 00:27:49,959 - And I'm watching this guy play, and I'm like, 779 00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:53,171 "Yo, if he gettin' $15 million I can get $8 million." 780 00:27:53,254 --> 00:27:56,383 So now I got to stay focused. Now I'm close. 781 00:27:56,466 --> 00:27:57,759 This article right here that says 782 00:27:57,842 --> 00:27:59,761 "Cole's O'Neal 'best in the U.S.'" 783 00:27:59,844 --> 00:28:00,929 says that I'm close. 784 00:28:01,012 --> 00:28:02,263 [upbeat music] 785 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:04,432 - In today's classic, Shaquille O'Neal, 786 00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:07,602 a 6'11" giant from San Antonio, 787 00:28:07,685 --> 00:28:09,979 will lead the West against the East. 788 00:28:10,063 --> 00:28:13,525 It's the 12th annual McDonald's All-American Game. 789 00:28:13,608 --> 00:28:14,859 ♪ ♪ 790 00:28:14,943 --> 00:28:15,860 - So growing up in my high school, 791 00:28:15,944 --> 00:28:17,070 I loved Dick Vitale. 792 00:28:17,153 --> 00:28:19,906 - This is excitement. This is absolutely bedlam. 793 00:28:19,989 --> 00:28:21,574 - Loved him. 794 00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:23,785 And I get to the McDonald's game, 795 00:28:23,868 --> 00:28:25,620 and I was like, "Hello, Mr. Vitale." 796 00:28:25,703 --> 00:28:29,791 And Mr. Vitale says, "And you are?" 797 00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:31,960 I said, "My name's Shaquille O'Neal." 798 00:28:32,043 --> 00:28:33,294 "Oh, you the big guy from Texas 799 00:28:33,378 --> 00:28:35,296 that played against those small kids." 800 00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,673 Oh, my God. 801 00:28:36,756 --> 00:28:38,800 Now I'm fuckin' pissed. 802 00:28:38,883 --> 00:28:39,801 My mom always used to say, 803 00:28:39,884 --> 00:28:41,845 and it didn't make sense till that day, 804 00:28:41,928 --> 00:28:44,305 "Baby, make 'em remember your name." 805 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:45,640 I already know what I'ma do. 806 00:28:45,723 --> 00:28:48,101 First time I touch the ball, I'm taking it coast-to-coast. 807 00:28:49,018 --> 00:28:50,937 So I blocked Conrad McRae's shot. 808 00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:52,939 - There's Shaquille with another rejection. 809 00:28:53,022 --> 00:28:53,982 - Dribble. 810 00:28:54,065 --> 00:28:55,400 Take off on the free throw line. 811 00:28:55,483 --> 00:28:57,235 Dunk it. Boom. 812 00:28:57,318 --> 00:28:59,112 And then Dick Vitale screamed, "Oh, my God." 813 00:28:59,195 --> 00:29:00,864 And I'm looking like, "Oh." - I can't believe it! 814 00:29:00,947 --> 00:29:02,907 I can't believe it! That's a seven-footer! 815 00:29:02,991 --> 00:29:04,451 Are you serious? 816 00:29:04,534 --> 00:29:06,453 - I'll tell you one thing, this guy can play. 817 00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:09,205 Shaquille O'Neal will be a star at LSU. 818 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:12,167 [percussive music] 819 00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:14,961 ♪ ♪ 820 00:29:15,044 --> 00:29:17,046 - Now when I go to Baton Rouge, 821 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:18,965 it's back to the bottom, brother. 822 00:29:19,048 --> 00:29:20,216 They got Chris Jackson 823 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:21,259 and Stanley Roberts. 824 00:29:21,342 --> 00:29:22,719 We don't know who you are. 825 00:29:22,802 --> 00:29:24,345 - I remember him asking 826 00:29:24,429 --> 00:29:26,514 who would start and all that business. 827 00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:27,891 And I told him right up front, but I said, 828 00:29:27,974 --> 00:29:31,227 "Shaquille, I have never told a player he would start. 829 00:29:31,311 --> 00:29:33,563 That has to occur on the court. 830 00:29:33,646 --> 00:29:34,522 - You know, I go from averaging 831 00:29:34,606 --> 00:29:36,774 37 points to 6 points. 832 00:29:36,858 --> 00:29:39,152 So my whole freshman year, I'm playing the game 833 00:29:39,235 --> 00:29:41,029 and I'm turning it over; I'm fumbling. 834 00:29:41,112 --> 00:29:42,989 It's back to, "You can't play." 835 00:29:43,072 --> 00:29:44,657 But, you know, my father always told me, 836 00:29:44,741 --> 00:29:46,868 "If you stay consistent at something, 837 00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:49,537 whatever you're looking to accomplish, it will happen." 838 00:29:49,621 --> 00:29:52,790 - I don't think I've ever seen a player consistently 839 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:55,418 get better and better and better and better. 840 00:29:55,502 --> 00:29:57,378 There was no question, 841 00:29:57,462 --> 00:30:00,423 not one doubt in my mind, he was gonna be a superstar. 842 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:03,593 - Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, aka Chris Jackson, 843 00:30:03,676 --> 00:30:06,763 doesn't know this, but I used to follow him. 844 00:30:06,846 --> 00:30:08,264 I knew he used to work out at night, 845 00:30:08,348 --> 00:30:10,225 but nobody was allowed to go in there. 846 00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:11,726 So I broke in there. 847 00:30:11,809 --> 00:30:13,770 And he was talking to himself. "Shoot." 848 00:30:13,853 --> 00:30:15,772 And it seemed like he wasn't missing. 849 00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:18,233 So I'm like, "Okay, if this what he's doing 850 00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:20,193 to be great, I'ma do it." 851 00:30:20,276 --> 00:30:21,236 "Oh, Patrick, you want to try to guard Shaquille?" 852 00:30:21,319 --> 00:30:23,029 "Oh, Shaquille"-- like, and I would-- 853 00:30:23,112 --> 00:30:25,198 I was trying to imagine that. 854 00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:27,075 So guess what happened my sophomore year. 855 00:30:27,575 --> 00:30:29,911 Mr. Stanley Roberts flunks out. 856 00:30:30,954 --> 00:30:32,080 Here's my shot. 857 00:30:33,164 --> 00:30:34,541 And I come in first time I got the ball 858 00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:35,750 and dunked it. 859 00:30:35,833 --> 00:30:37,252 [crowd cheering] 860 00:30:37,335 --> 00:30:38,586 [whistle blows] I'm like... 861 00:30:38,670 --> 00:30:40,964 - Flips it to O'Neal and slams it in. 862 00:30:41,047 --> 00:30:42,382 - Shaquille, and then I'm like... 863 00:30:42,465 --> 00:30:44,634 - I'd say Shaq took it to the rack. 864 00:30:44,717 --> 00:30:45,927 - Like, man, this is what I've been dreaming about 865 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:46,928 all my life. 866 00:30:47,011 --> 00:30:49,305 - 7'1", nearly 300 pounds, 867 00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:51,933 yet only weeks beyond his 19th birthday, 868 00:30:52,016 --> 00:30:54,769 LSU sophomore Shaquille O'Neal is already being heralded 869 00:30:54,852 --> 00:30:57,522 as one of the top centers in the universe. 870 00:30:57,605 --> 00:31:00,650 - My sophomore year, I led the conference in everything. 871 00:31:00,733 --> 00:31:03,069 And I always knew from a youngster, 872 00:31:03,152 --> 00:31:05,280 take advantage of opportunities. 873 00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:07,240 - Great steal. O'Neal, slam dunk! 874 00:31:07,323 --> 00:31:08,783 Oh, my goodness. 875 00:31:08,866 --> 00:31:11,244 - Sophomore year, I wanted to go pro. 876 00:31:11,327 --> 00:31:13,079 My father said, "We've been broke 877 00:31:13,162 --> 00:31:14,414 "17 years of your life. 878 00:31:14,497 --> 00:31:15,957 We can be broke for 18." 879 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,126 - When he first went to school, everything was 880 00:31:18,209 --> 00:31:19,752 go to school, get education. 881 00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:20,920 Now that Shaquille's 882 00:31:21,004 --> 00:31:22,797 a fairly good basketball player, 883 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,798 everybody's now saying, 884 00:31:23,881 --> 00:31:26,551 "Dump school and go to the NBA." 885 00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:29,804 - He probably knew, too, that he was that good. 886 00:31:29,887 --> 00:31:32,140 And I remember sitting him down 887 00:31:32,223 --> 00:31:34,976 and said, "It's gonna be different from now on." 888 00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:36,519 - Why? I don't understand that. 889 00:31:36,603 --> 00:31:38,521 'Cause of the money? Money isn't everything. 890 00:31:38,605 --> 00:31:40,607 'Cause of the publicity? That's not everything. 891 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:42,150 - I know it's gonna be an argument, 892 00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,526 'cause he's like, "Nope. 893 00:31:43,610 --> 00:31:45,820 "You ain't doing shit until you get a degree. 894 00:31:45,903 --> 00:31:47,280 "I don't give a shit what you say. 895 00:31:47,363 --> 00:31:48,781 "I don't care how much money they're offering you. 896 00:31:48,865 --> 00:31:50,116 You ain't doing nothing." 897 00:31:50,199 --> 00:31:52,785 - If he goes the NBA and can't do what they expect him to do, 898 00:31:52,869 --> 00:31:53,953 where's he gonna be at? 899 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:56,205 - I go--I said, "I want to go pro." 900 00:31:56,289 --> 00:31:57,498 He's going, "Motherfucker, 901 00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:58,708 "da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. 902 00:31:58,791 --> 00:32:00,001 Get out of my face!" 903 00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:02,170 So my mom said, "Come with me, baby." 904 00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:04,756 And my mom said, "Balance this checkbook." 905 00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,175 I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. 906 00:32:07,258 --> 00:32:08,676 Mom said, "You not ready, baby." 907 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,553 - He decided that he wanted to go back to school 908 00:32:10,637 --> 00:32:12,597 for at least another year or so. 909 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,391 - "This conversation over." "Yes, ma'am." 910 00:32:17,143 --> 00:32:19,020 - At that time, I made it my point 911 00:32:19,103 --> 00:32:20,021 just to help him. 912 00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:21,981 If he needed me, I was there. 913 00:32:22,065 --> 00:32:24,984 He had that dream, "I'm gonna be professional one day." 914 00:32:25,068 --> 00:32:28,488 We would not pay bills and get in the car on a Friday 915 00:32:28,571 --> 00:32:31,032 and drive to Louisiana 916 00:32:31,115 --> 00:32:32,659 just to spend the weekend with him 917 00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:36,496 so that we could be with him and keep him encouraged. 918 00:32:36,579 --> 00:32:38,831 "You a big man. You stand tall. 919 00:32:38,915 --> 00:32:40,333 You don't let anybody move you." 920 00:32:40,416 --> 00:32:42,710 - And it's a 10-point lead. 921 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:45,046 [indistinct chatter] 922 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:47,423 One-handed catch by Shaquille. 923 00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:48,591 Got his own rebound. [whistle blows] 924 00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:50,218 And that'll count. 925 00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:52,970 And a foul as O'Neal will step to the free throw line. 926 00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:54,722 - People had to compete against me 927 00:32:54,806 --> 00:32:56,474 because of my size. 928 00:32:56,557 --> 00:32:58,559 They felt they had to get super physical. 929 00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:01,270 Well, guess what. I got ass-whuppings every day. 930 00:33:01,354 --> 00:33:02,438 You're not hurting me. 931 00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:03,690 It's just making me more angry. 932 00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:05,191 [whistle blows] - And a foul. 933 00:33:05,274 --> 00:33:07,026 - Oh! How good is that? 934 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:09,362 - Also showed me a sign of respect. 935 00:33:09,445 --> 00:33:11,406 "I can't stop you, man. I'm sorry. I fouled him." 936 00:33:11,489 --> 00:33:13,074 - You think this big guy is good? 937 00:33:13,157 --> 00:33:15,368 Watch this. He's gonna get hammered right here, 938 00:33:15,451 --> 00:33:18,705 get fouled, still get it up with his strength, get it in, 939 00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:19,914 and count it. 940 00:33:19,997 --> 00:33:22,667 - I had called the SCC numerous times and told them 941 00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:25,837 that the referees have to stop these flagrant fouls. 942 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,755 - Tapped in... - "They can't stop him, 943 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:28,756 "so they foul him, 944 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,425 "knowing he's a poor free throw shooter. 945 00:33:30,508 --> 00:33:32,468 "Shaquille's gonna be seriously hurt. 946 00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:33,970 It could cost him his career." 947 00:33:34,053 --> 00:33:35,263 - They're gonna get shots. [whistle blows] 948 00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:37,557 O'Neal is fouled by Groves as he made 949 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,642 a strong move to the basket. 950 00:33:39,726 --> 00:33:41,310 Strong being a bit of an understatement 951 00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:42,562 in that case. 952 00:33:42,645 --> 00:33:44,647 - When we go to the SCC tournament, 953 00:33:44,731 --> 00:33:45,898 third time this happened 954 00:33:45,982 --> 00:33:47,191 by this player from Tennessee. 955 00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:48,276 - Won four in a row, lost a heartbreaking... 956 00:33:48,359 --> 00:33:50,194 [whistle blows] 957 00:33:50,278 --> 00:33:51,904 Uh-oh, look out. 958 00:33:51,988 --> 00:33:53,573 Groves and O'Neal square off. 959 00:33:53,656 --> 00:33:55,575 And Dale Brown is pushing Groves. 960 00:33:55,658 --> 00:33:57,243 - And I see Shaquille's knee going out 961 00:33:57,326 --> 00:33:58,745 and a fight breaking out, 962 00:33:58,828 --> 00:34:00,079 so I go out on the court 963 00:34:00,163 --> 00:34:03,082 and get in a confrontation with the guy doing it. 964 00:34:03,166 --> 00:34:05,126 - That's why I love that man. 965 00:34:05,209 --> 00:34:07,170 He was right there next to me. 966 00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:09,422 The reason why I swung on Carlus Groves, 967 00:34:09,505 --> 00:34:10,631 because in my mind, 968 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:12,800 this dude's trying to mess my money up. 969 00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:14,635 And I wanted to send a message to anybody 970 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,012 that try to mess my money up, 971 00:34:16,095 --> 00:34:18,306 this is what's gonna happen to you. 972 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:20,391 - Sadly as I hate to say this, 973 00:34:20,475 --> 00:34:22,351 I'm recommending to Shaquille's parents 974 00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:23,811 that he turns NBA. 975 00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:25,855 I do not want to see this young man 976 00:34:25,938 --> 00:34:28,107 blatantly fouled and hurt 977 00:34:28,191 --> 00:34:31,486 and then, because of my selfishness to win, 978 00:34:31,569 --> 00:34:32,862 he doesn't play pro ball. 979 00:34:32,945 --> 00:34:34,113 If he's going to get hurt 980 00:34:34,197 --> 00:34:35,656 and people are going to intentionally foul him 981 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:37,617 for the 18th time, 982 00:34:37,700 --> 00:34:39,410 he needs to go get money to get hurt. 983 00:34:39,494 --> 00:34:41,454 - He's no ordinary 19-year-old. 984 00:34:41,537 --> 00:34:45,666 Standing 7'1" and weighing in at 285 pounds, 985 00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:48,294 his amazing speed and spectacular skills 986 00:34:48,377 --> 00:34:51,005 have made him, without doubt, the most sought-after 987 00:34:51,088 --> 00:34:53,424 collegiate basketball player in the nation. 988 00:34:53,508 --> 00:34:55,593 - Junior year. Dominated. 989 00:34:55,676 --> 00:34:57,428 Dick Vitale's still screaming my name. 990 00:34:57,512 --> 00:34:58,846 - Shaquille O'Neal! 991 00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:00,223 - Go home, same argument. 992 00:35:00,306 --> 00:35:02,016 But it's the first time I stand up to him. 993 00:35:02,099 --> 00:35:03,768 "Man, fuck that. 994 00:35:03,851 --> 00:35:06,521 They fuckin' me up in school. I'm going." 995 00:35:06,604 --> 00:35:07,563 And it was the first time 996 00:35:07,647 --> 00:35:08,940 he looked back at me and was like-- 997 00:35:09,023 --> 00:35:11,150 he realized that he created a man. 998 00:35:11,234 --> 00:35:13,152 And then Mom says, "You know what I'm gonna ask you to do. 999 00:35:13,236 --> 00:35:14,654 Pull it out." 1000 00:35:14,737 --> 00:35:15,696 My shit was neat. 1001 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,950 Debits, credits, boom, boom, bada-bam, bada-bing. 1002 00:35:19,033 --> 00:35:20,409 And she said, "Okay, you ready." 1003 00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:32,880 - When you have a dream come alive, 1004 00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:36,175 it's just a blessing instead of hard work. 1005 00:35:38,302 --> 00:35:40,596 He told me I was never gonna have to worry. 1006 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:41,931 "You won't have to worry about anything. 1007 00:35:42,014 --> 00:35:43,558 You gonna be able to get anything that you want." 1008 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:46,018 And I said, "Okay, okay. That's fine." 1009 00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:49,355 It's good. It's good for all of us. 1010 00:35:49,438 --> 00:35:51,023 - Good afternoon. The mic's on? 1011 00:35:51,107 --> 00:35:52,525 [tapping] 1012 00:35:53,276 --> 00:35:55,444 Good afternoon. Thank you all for coming. 1013 00:35:55,528 --> 00:35:57,363 About to make my statement. 1014 00:35:57,446 --> 00:35:59,866 I, Shaquille O'Neal, after careful deliberation, 1015 00:35:59,949 --> 00:36:02,910 have decided to forgo my senior year eligibility 1016 00:36:02,994 --> 00:36:04,161 at LSU. 1017 00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:07,123 I'm not making this decision out of anger or frustration. 1018 00:36:07,206 --> 00:36:09,375 I feel that in my heart, it's time for a change 1019 00:36:09,458 --> 00:36:11,711 and it's time for me to move on. 1020 00:36:11,794 --> 00:36:14,046 I've truly enjoyed every aspect of my college years 1021 00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:17,008 as a basketball player and as a student. 1022 00:36:17,091 --> 00:36:19,468 I think the experience was very much needed. 1023 00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:21,387 But now I am ready to take what I've learned 1024 00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:22,930 on with me to the NBA. 1025 00:36:23,014 --> 00:36:25,266 And I'd like to thank you people for coming 1026 00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:26,976 and thank you for the awards, 1027 00:36:27,059 --> 00:36:28,311 and, you know, thank you for everything. 1028 00:36:28,394 --> 00:36:31,230 And thank you for listening. Peace. 1029 00:36:31,314 --> 00:36:33,065 Any questions? 1030 00:36:34,483 --> 00:36:36,402 - Always been our dream to see him play in the NBA. 1031 00:36:36,485 --> 00:36:38,946 My dream, you know. 1032 00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:39,947 Because I wanted to play, 1033 00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:41,073 that's what he playin' in. 1034 00:36:41,157 --> 00:36:42,575 Now my son is gonna play in it. 1035 00:36:42,658 --> 00:36:44,076 It makes me feel a whole lot better 1036 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,079 knowing that my son is able to go farther than what I went, 1037 00:36:47,163 --> 00:36:48,456 you know? 1038 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:49,749 That's the main-- that's what it's all about, 1039 00:36:49,832 --> 00:36:51,250 you know what I mean, your children going farther 1040 00:36:51,334 --> 00:36:52,919 that what you went and doing better 1041 00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:54,170 than what you're gonna be doing. 1042 00:36:54,253 --> 00:36:55,713 - All right. See you later, guy. 1043 00:36:55,796 --> 00:36:57,632 [indistinct chatter] 1044 00:36:57,715 --> 00:36:58,966 - I was elated for the family, 1045 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,969 because, you know, a superstar, 1046 00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:04,805 and they drive up in this old van. 1047 00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:07,642 So I knew it was a pivotal thing financially. 1048 00:37:07,725 --> 00:37:08,809 [people cheering] 1049 00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:11,020 He was gonna help take care of the family. 1050 00:37:14,023 --> 00:37:15,858 - Well, Shaquille, this is it, bro. 1051 00:37:16,567 --> 00:37:18,569 - We're going to work. - Time to go to work, huh? 1052 00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:21,280 - Good evening, 1053 00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:22,323 ladies and gentlemen, 1054 00:37:22,406 --> 00:37:25,159 and welcome to the 1992 NBA Draft. 1055 00:37:25,242 --> 00:37:26,953 [cheers and applause] 1056 00:37:27,036 --> 00:37:28,829 - Draft night was special. 1057 00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:31,290 My grandmother was there. My mother was there. 1058 00:37:31,374 --> 00:37:33,834 Brother, sisters, aunts, uncles, friends. 1059 00:37:33,918 --> 00:37:35,795 And then when they called my name, it was like... 1060 00:37:35,878 --> 00:37:39,674 - With the first pick in the 1992 NBA Draft, 1061 00:37:39,757 --> 00:37:43,135 the Orlando Magic selects Shaquille O'Neal 1062 00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:45,179 from Louisiana State University. 1063 00:37:45,262 --> 00:37:47,515 [cheers and applause] 1064 00:37:47,598 --> 00:37:49,266 - Who, me? 1065 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:53,020 I wanted to cry inside, but being raised by the Sarge, 1066 00:37:53,104 --> 00:37:54,772 you're not allowed to be emotional. 1067 00:37:54,855 --> 00:37:56,148 You're not allowed to be soft. 1068 00:37:56,232 --> 00:37:59,026 [applause] 1069 00:37:59,110 --> 00:38:03,823 But in my mind, "I'm here. I'm here. 1070 00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:08,452 "All the ass-whuppings, 1071 00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:12,123 "all the doubters, 1072 00:38:12,206 --> 00:38:13,416 I'm here." 1073 00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:16,794 - Well, along with Jack Givens, 1074 00:38:16,877 --> 00:38:18,879 this is Chip Caray welcoming you tonight, 1075 00:38:18,963 --> 00:38:21,424 the debut of perhaps the most heralded rookie 1076 00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:26,053 in the NBA in quite some time, number 32, Shaquille O'Neal. 1077 00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:29,265 The Magic and Miami Heat archrivals battling it out. 1078 00:38:29,348 --> 00:38:31,559 And the opening tap goes to Miami. 1079 00:38:31,642 --> 00:38:34,979 And the Shaquille O'Neal era has begun in the NBA. 1080 00:38:35,062 --> 00:38:36,522 - So now you're in the NBA. 1081 00:38:36,605 --> 00:38:39,150 All the guys you used to see and then dream about 1082 00:38:39,233 --> 00:38:40,526 and look at and drool over, 1083 00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:42,153 they're here now. 1084 00:38:42,236 --> 00:38:44,405 So I'm like, "You ain't where Hakeem at yet." 1085 00:38:44,488 --> 00:38:46,365 ♪ ♪ 1086 00:38:46,449 --> 00:38:47,867 "You ain't where David Robinson at." 1087 00:38:47,950 --> 00:38:49,410 - Shaquille O'Neal is not used to this. 1088 00:38:49,493 --> 00:38:50,870 - "And you ain't where Ewing at." 1089 00:38:50,953 --> 00:38:52,204 - Ewing with the spin. 1090 00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:53,706 Ewing--yes! 1091 00:38:53,789 --> 00:38:56,167 - I wanted to be that guy. 1092 00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,127 I wanted what Magic had. 1093 00:38:58,210 --> 00:38:59,420 I wanted what Dr. J had. 1094 00:38:59,503 --> 00:39:01,589 I wanted what Michael Jordan had. 1095 00:39:01,672 --> 00:39:04,008 Michael had all of that. And I wanted that. 1096 00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:06,093 How does he do it? 1097 00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:08,763 Michael Jordan. Ferocity. 1098 00:39:08,846 --> 00:39:10,097 Wanted to be the best ever. 1099 00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:13,601 When he gets fouled hard, he's not shakin' nobody hand. 1100 00:39:13,684 --> 00:39:15,686 Like, I fouled him one time and went to pick him up. 1101 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:17,313 He said, "Don't do that. 1102 00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:20,191 "Don't ever help nobody up. Good foul." 1103 00:39:20,274 --> 00:39:22,735 I was like, "Damn." 1104 00:39:22,818 --> 00:39:24,070 - And look at that pass. - Oh, they stole it! 1105 00:39:24,153 --> 00:39:26,030 - Stolen by Scott. 1106 00:39:26,113 --> 00:39:27,573 - Well, obviously, Shaq came in 1107 00:39:27,656 --> 00:39:29,241 with all the hype. 1108 00:39:29,325 --> 00:39:31,077 He didn't win a championship. 1109 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,746 He never made that miraculous Final Four run. 1110 00:39:35,122 --> 00:39:36,290 But his dominance... 1111 00:39:36,373 --> 00:39:38,459 [whistle blows] - Oh! 1112 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:41,295 - He would shoot 72% from the floor, 1113 00:39:41,378 --> 00:39:42,630 and people was like, 1114 00:39:42,713 --> 00:39:44,131 "Well, he doesn't have a free throw," 1115 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:45,466 or, "He doesn't shoot three." 1116 00:39:45,549 --> 00:39:46,801 Why would you? 1117 00:39:46,884 --> 00:39:49,970 Let the locomotive keep coming down the track. 1118 00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:53,265 Until they figure out a way to stop it, keep going. 1119 00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:55,768 And I think that's the presence 1120 00:39:55,851 --> 00:39:58,979 Shaq brought into the NBA as a rookie. 1121 00:39:59,438 --> 00:40:02,108 - So when you lookin' at a god on TV 1122 00:40:02,191 --> 00:40:03,567 but then when you see him in real life 1123 00:40:03,651 --> 00:40:05,945 and you realize he's not a god, 1124 00:40:06,028 --> 00:40:08,239 now that so-called god is in trouble. 1125 00:40:09,865 --> 00:40:12,701 - Shaq for two over Olajuwon. 1126 00:40:12,785 --> 00:40:15,287 - Sets up O'Neal. Oh, my. 1127 00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:18,749 And then lets the crowd know, "I'm here." 1128 00:40:18,833 --> 00:40:21,585 - The first time Patrick Ewing shot a fadeaway jump shot 1129 00:40:21,669 --> 00:40:22,795 and I'm right there. 1130 00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:26,006 - Ewing. - Ooh. 1131 00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:27,842 I think I can block that. 1132 00:40:27,925 --> 00:40:29,802 So now next time, should get a little closer 1133 00:40:29,885 --> 00:40:31,262 when he get on that fadeaway. 1134 00:40:31,345 --> 00:40:33,514 My father said, "You show a person respect 1135 00:40:33,597 --> 00:40:34,598 "by showing them none. 1136 00:40:34,682 --> 00:40:36,308 "I don't give a damn that's Patrick Ewing. 1137 00:40:36,392 --> 00:40:37,393 You Shaquille O'Neal." 1138 00:40:37,476 --> 00:40:39,562 - Way of operating offensively. 1139 00:40:39,645 --> 00:40:41,522 Ewing rejected by O'Neal. 1140 00:40:41,605 --> 00:40:42,731 - Yes, sir. 1141 00:40:42,815 --> 00:40:44,817 - Boy, that--when does that happen to Patrick Ewing? 1142 00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:46,360 Maybe--I don't remember. 1143 00:40:46,443 --> 00:40:47,987 - Uh-oh. 1144 00:40:48,070 --> 00:40:50,739 Your ass is in trouble. 1145 00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:51,740 - We're gonna just stand up 1146 00:40:51,824 --> 00:40:52,825 and throw to the commercial. - Okay. 1147 00:40:52,908 --> 00:40:54,160 - Standing up. 1148 00:40:54,243 --> 00:40:55,327 So does your mic-- 1149 00:40:55,411 --> 00:40:56,829 I don't think your mic does that-- 1150 00:40:56,912 --> 00:40:58,539 stretches that far. 1151 00:40:58,622 --> 00:41:00,958 Here, hold on. [rustling] 1152 00:41:01,041 --> 00:41:02,293 Okay. 1153 00:41:04,128 --> 00:41:05,171 We'll be back in a moment. 1154 00:41:05,254 --> 00:41:06,463 But first... 1155 00:41:07,464 --> 00:41:09,383 I told you what to say. - Oh, I forgot. 1156 00:41:09,466 --> 00:41:12,720 - Come here, come here. [whispering indistinctly] 1157 00:41:12,803 --> 00:41:15,222 - Yeah. Sorry. 1158 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:18,851 - Go ahead. - This is "Today" on NBC. 1159 00:41:18,934 --> 00:41:21,812 One of my superpowers is, I can stop time. 1160 00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:24,356 And what I mean by that is, I can foresee stuff 1161 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,858 before it happens. 1162 00:41:25,941 --> 00:41:28,068 So I had a professor, Tommy Karam. 1163 00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:29,236 He pulled me to the side and said, 1164 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,363 "Why you don't never want to speak up in the class?" 1165 00:41:31,447 --> 00:41:34,200 "'Cause when I g-g-et nervous, I stutter." 1166 00:41:34,283 --> 00:41:36,327 Profess-professional athlete. 1167 00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:38,162 [stuttering] 1168 00:41:38,245 --> 00:41:40,539 So then we used to set up fake interviews. 1169 00:41:40,623 --> 00:41:42,583 He used to come in with a little VHS camera, 1170 00:41:42,666 --> 00:41:44,043 ask me a question, 1171 00:41:44,126 --> 00:41:45,753 and then we'd stop and go over it. 1172 00:41:45,836 --> 00:41:47,796 So now I'm practicing at home by myself. 1173 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,758 [upbeat music] 1174 00:41:50,841 --> 00:41:52,760 Click. Watch. 1175 00:41:52,843 --> 00:41:54,428 "Don't come in like you're superintelligent, 1176 00:41:54,511 --> 00:41:55,679 "'cause you're not. 1177 00:41:55,763 --> 00:41:56,764 "Move that out the way. 1178 00:41:56,847 --> 00:41:58,098 "Funny. 1179 00:41:58,182 --> 00:41:59,642 "Let them know you're cool. 1180 00:41:59,725 --> 00:42:02,144 Be confident. Be humble." 1181 00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:04,104 All right. Play. [click] 1182 00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:06,023 And then he said the words I needed to hear. 1183 00:42:06,106 --> 00:42:07,650 He said, "When you talkin' to that, 1184 00:42:07,733 --> 00:42:09,443 that's just more money in your pocket." 1185 00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:10,611 Stop. [tape squeals] 1186 00:42:10,694 --> 00:42:12,238 I think I'm--Orlando-- 1187 00:42:12,321 --> 00:42:13,739 S-H-A... 1188 00:42:13,822 --> 00:42:14,907 Mickey Mouse. 1189 00:42:14,990 --> 00:42:16,408 Q-I-E... 1190 00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:18,452 Let me see that hat. 1191 00:42:18,535 --> 00:42:21,413 ♪ S-H-A-Q-I-E ♪ 1192 00:42:21,497 --> 00:42:23,958 ♪ M-O-U-S-E ♪ [laughter] 1193 00:42:24,041 --> 00:42:25,751 You gotta do interviews. 1194 00:42:25,834 --> 00:42:27,044 People are gonna love you. 1195 00:42:27,127 --> 00:42:29,129 You gonna make so much money on the side. 1196 00:42:29,213 --> 00:42:30,172 I played all sports. 1197 00:42:30,256 --> 00:42:31,298 - Uh-huh. - I played soccer. 1198 00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:33,092 - Were you good at soccer? - I used to kick people. 1199 00:42:33,175 --> 00:42:35,719 Yeah. [laughter] 1200 00:42:35,803 --> 00:42:37,179 - I'm not sure that's the point of the game. 1201 00:42:38,264 --> 00:42:40,975 Ah. Ah, well. 1202 00:42:50,693 --> 00:42:52,486 Coming into the NBA, I didn't want to be 1203 00:42:52,569 --> 00:42:53,946 a boring big man. 1204 00:42:54,029 --> 00:42:56,282 Big guys don't sell. I'm not in that category. 1205 00:42:56,365 --> 00:42:58,200 I'm over here in this category. 1206 00:42:58,284 --> 00:43:00,327 So I call Arsenio, and I say, "Hey, man. 1207 00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:02,705 I want to be on your show, but I want to be different." 1208 00:43:02,788 --> 00:43:03,998 "What do you mean, brother?" 1209 00:43:04,081 --> 00:43:05,416 I say, "At the end of the show, 1210 00:43:05,499 --> 00:43:07,668 can I rap with my favorite rap group?" 1211 00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:10,004 - Making his TV debut... [chuckles] 1212 00:43:10,087 --> 00:43:13,299 Performing "What's Up Doc?" with his friends, 1213 00:43:13,382 --> 00:43:15,509 who happen to be the fastest-rising rap group 1214 00:43:15,592 --> 00:43:19,179 on the charts, Shaquille O'Neal and Fu-Schnickens. 1215 00:43:19,263 --> 00:43:20,764 - I didn't even know Fu-Shnickens at the time. 1216 00:43:20,848 --> 00:43:22,016 - ♪ Yeah, can we rock ♪ 1217 00:43:22,099 --> 00:43:23,517 ♪ Yeah, what's up, Doc ♪ 1218 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,686 - We practiced the song once or twice, 1219 00:43:25,769 --> 00:43:27,187 and then when the show came, 1220 00:43:27,271 --> 00:43:28,355 I killed it. 1221 00:43:28,439 --> 00:43:30,274 ♪ Yo, I'm the hooper, hyper, protected by a viper ♪ 1222 00:43:30,357 --> 00:43:32,151 ♪ When I'm out there hoopin', yo, you better decipher ♪ 1223 00:43:32,234 --> 00:43:33,736 - They went on and performed. 1224 00:43:33,819 --> 00:43:35,446 Next thing you know, they did a music video, 1225 00:43:35,529 --> 00:43:36,488 "What's Up, Doc?" 1226 00:43:36,572 --> 00:43:38,198 I get a call from Barry Weiss, 1227 00:43:38,282 --> 00:43:39,658 the CEO of Jive Records. 1228 00:43:39,742 --> 00:43:42,119 He says, "I want to sign Shaq to a record deal." 1229 00:43:42,202 --> 00:43:43,329 - Said, "Man, I ain't no rapper." 1230 00:43:43,412 --> 00:43:44,788 "$10 million." 1231 00:43:44,872 --> 00:43:45,914 "What?" [gears rumbling] 1232 00:43:45,998 --> 00:43:47,708 - ♪ Forget Tony Danza, I'm the boss ♪ 1233 00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:50,294 ♪ When it comes to money I'm like Dick the frost ♪ 1234 00:43:50,377 --> 00:43:51,253 - What a rebound. 1235 00:43:51,337 --> 00:43:53,047 He has gone after it with a vengeance. 1236 00:43:53,130 --> 00:43:54,631 No look-see, Dennis Scott. 1237 00:43:54,715 --> 00:43:56,425 - ♪ That's okay, not being braggadocious ♪ 1238 00:43:56,508 --> 00:43:58,594 ♪ Supercalifragilistic, Shaq is alidocious ♪ 1239 00:43:58,677 --> 00:44:00,387 ♪ Peace, I gotta go, I ain't no joke ♪ 1240 00:44:00,471 --> 00:44:02,514 - O'Neal sliding... 1241 00:44:02,598 --> 00:44:03,557 [whistle blows] 1242 00:44:04,683 --> 00:44:07,061 - ♪ What's up, Doc, can we rock ♪ 1243 00:44:07,144 --> 00:44:08,979 ♪ What's up, Doc, can we rock ♪ 1244 00:44:09,063 --> 00:44:09,897 ♪ What's up, Doc ♪ 1245 00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:10,939 - Goes to Reed. Driving shot. 1246 00:44:11,023 --> 00:44:13,192 Blocked by O'Neal out-of-bounds. 1247 00:44:13,275 --> 00:44:15,361 - ♪ What's up, Doc, can we rock ♪ 1248 00:44:15,444 --> 00:44:17,821 - That's the kind of rebound the Magic want from O'Neal. 1249 00:44:17,905 --> 00:44:18,864 For Shaquille. 1250 00:44:18,947 --> 00:44:20,032 ♪ Can we rock ♪ 1251 00:44:20,115 --> 00:44:22,534 ♪ What's up, Doc, can we rock ♪ 1252 00:44:22,618 --> 00:44:25,037 - I would like to present to Shaquille O'Neal 1253 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,456 the Most Valuable Rookie of the Year award. 1254 00:44:27,539 --> 00:44:29,041 [applause] 1255 00:44:29,124 --> 00:44:30,376 - Another trophy for me, 1256 00:44:30,459 --> 00:44:33,379 and I hope I can get an NBA Championship trophy 1257 00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:34,588 to go along with it. 1258 00:44:34,672 --> 00:44:36,298 When I retire and have children, 1259 00:44:36,382 --> 00:44:40,010 I can tell my son, "Son, I was bad." 1260 00:44:40,094 --> 00:44:41,512 [laughter] 1261 00:44:42,805 --> 00:44:43,764 [chains rattle] 1262 00:44:43,847 --> 00:44:45,766 So my agent knew a lot of people. 1263 00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:47,810 He says, "They want you to play in this movie." 1264 00:44:47,893 --> 00:44:50,104 "I don't care if the movie's terrible or not. 1265 00:44:50,187 --> 00:44:52,106 I'm not turning it down." 1266 00:44:52,189 --> 00:44:54,608 Before we start shooting, I gotta work out. 1267 00:44:54,692 --> 00:44:57,403 So we're running a play, and they're stealing clips. 1268 00:44:57,486 --> 00:44:59,321 And then this Penny guy is-- 1269 00:44:59,405 --> 00:45:01,073 that dude dropped me off nice. 1270 00:45:01,156 --> 00:45:02,866 [buzzer blares, crowd cheering] 1271 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:05,411 - And to Hardaway for the jam. 1272 00:45:05,494 --> 00:45:07,162 - To me, I had a game plan. 1273 00:45:07,246 --> 00:45:08,914 Because what I wanted him to know was that 1274 00:45:08,997 --> 00:45:10,582 if I got drafted by the Magic 1275 00:45:10,666 --> 00:45:11,750 that I would be giving him the ball 1276 00:45:11,834 --> 00:45:12,751 and putting him in position 1277 00:45:12,835 --> 00:45:14,128 to be the best that he could be. 1278 00:45:14,211 --> 00:45:15,671 So everything that I did was catered 1279 00:45:15,754 --> 00:45:17,214 towards making Shaq happy. 1280 00:45:17,297 --> 00:45:19,675 - I asked him one day, I said, "How long you been an actor?" 1281 00:45:19,758 --> 00:45:21,301 He said, "No, no. I'm from-- I'm Penny Hardaway. 1282 00:45:21,385 --> 00:45:22,302 "I went to Memphis State 1283 00:45:22,386 --> 00:45:23,846 and I put my name in the draft." 1284 00:45:23,929 --> 00:45:25,639 "You did what?" 1285 00:45:25,722 --> 00:45:28,142 I can remember Dennis Scott, my best friend on the team, 1286 00:45:28,225 --> 00:45:30,519 telling me, "Man, some point, you gonna have to go upstairs, 1287 00:45:30,602 --> 00:45:32,688 "and it's gonna have to get ugly, big dog. 1288 00:45:32,771 --> 00:45:33,897 This your team." 1289 00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:35,274 John Gabriel. 1290 00:45:35,357 --> 00:45:36,442 I called him on the phone and said, 1291 00:45:36,525 --> 00:45:38,944 "Hey, man, You heard of Penny Hardaway?" 1292 00:45:39,027 --> 00:45:41,113 "Oh, yeah, I heard of him. He's really good. 1293 00:45:41,196 --> 00:45:43,949 But we probably want to go with Chris Webber." 1294 00:45:44,032 --> 00:45:45,367 "Man, I don't need no power forward 1295 00:45:45,451 --> 00:45:46,452 "that likes to shoot the ball. 1296 00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:47,661 "I need somebody that's gonna give me 1297 00:45:47,744 --> 00:45:48,704 "the damn ball. 1298 00:45:48,787 --> 00:45:50,289 "If you don't pick the Penny guy, brother, 1299 00:45:50,372 --> 00:45:51,957 "I think we gonna have some problems at-- 1300 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,292 you know, when my deal is up." 1301 00:45:53,375 --> 00:45:57,379 - With the first pick in the 1993 NBA Draft, 1302 00:45:57,463 --> 00:45:58,672 the Orlando Magic... - Orlando Magic... 1303 00:45:58,755 --> 00:46:00,507 [both] Select Chris Webber. 1304 00:46:00,591 --> 00:46:01,842 [cheers and applause] 1305 00:46:01,925 --> 00:46:03,552 - I tear my back house up. 1306 00:46:03,635 --> 00:46:05,012 Break the glass. 1307 00:46:05,095 --> 00:46:06,680 "You tellin' me I'm the leader. 1308 00:46:06,763 --> 00:46:09,516 And then when I come to you with something and you don't-- 1309 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,185 I mean, I'm still a pawn. 1310 00:46:11,268 --> 00:46:13,562 [touch tones beeping] Callin' him, pissed off. 1311 00:46:13,645 --> 00:46:15,481 And then in the middle of the draft... 1312 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:18,358 - Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to report a trade. 1313 00:46:18,442 --> 00:46:22,154 Orlando has traded the draft rights 1314 00:46:22,237 --> 00:46:25,491 to Chris Webber to Golden State 1315 00:46:25,574 --> 00:46:30,037 for the draft rights to Anfernee Hardaway. 1316 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,830 - Chris Webber to Golden State for Penny Hardaway. 1317 00:46:31,914 --> 00:46:32,998 Now I'm like... 1318 00:46:33,081 --> 00:46:34,833 - When the Magic started, the Nick Anderson, 1319 00:46:34,917 --> 00:46:37,377 you know, the Scott Skiles, it was fun. 1320 00:46:37,461 --> 00:46:39,463 It was, "Hey, the Magic's in town." 1321 00:46:39,546 --> 00:46:41,215 But when Shaq came, 1322 00:46:41,298 --> 00:46:47,179 it was like they were a real professional team now. 1323 00:46:47,262 --> 00:46:49,556 Then draft night, 1324 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,850 I look over to Nick Anderson. 1325 00:46:51,934 --> 00:46:54,561 I said, "This is Shaq and Penny's team now." 1326 00:46:54,645 --> 00:46:56,855 [percussive music] 1327 00:46:56,939 --> 00:46:59,066 And everything just took off. 1328 00:46:59,149 --> 00:47:00,526 [upbeat music] 1329 00:47:00,609 --> 00:47:02,611 - First year with Penny was phenomenal. 1330 00:47:02,694 --> 00:47:05,197 He was the true definition of a point guard. 1331 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,698 True definition of a point guard 1332 00:47:06,782 --> 00:47:08,617 is one that makes players around them better. 1333 00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,536 - Hardaway feeds O'Neal. 1334 00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:11,995 - He was always looking for me first. 1335 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:13,539 - Penny Hardaway fumbles... 1336 00:47:13,622 --> 00:47:15,832 - He's looking for me so much, I don't have to tell him, 1337 00:47:15,916 --> 00:47:17,584 "Yo, man, I'm tired right now. You shoot." 1338 00:47:17,668 --> 00:47:18,877 - Normally got there. 1339 00:47:18,961 --> 00:47:20,128 Skiles hit Hardaway, is twisted, 1340 00:47:20,212 --> 00:47:21,129 but Shaq hammers it in. 1341 00:47:21,213 --> 00:47:22,256 - We didn't have no problems. 1342 00:47:22,339 --> 00:47:24,383 No problems, no arguments, no fights. 1343 00:47:24,466 --> 00:47:27,010 And they said that we were the youngsters of the future. 1344 00:47:27,094 --> 00:47:28,136 - The wave of the future... 1345 00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:29,263 - The freight train, 1346 00:47:29,346 --> 00:47:30,889 we knew we were gettin' that every night. 1347 00:47:30,973 --> 00:47:32,808 We knew Shaq was gonna play hard. 1348 00:47:32,891 --> 00:47:35,143 And Penny was so gifted, you just couldn't guard him 1349 00:47:35,227 --> 00:47:36,353 at 6'8" as a point guard. 1350 00:47:36,436 --> 00:47:38,689 - Penny pattycakes. - Everywhere we went, 1351 00:47:38,772 --> 00:47:41,233 from the time Shaq and Penny came together, 1352 00:47:41,316 --> 00:47:42,401 was a party. 1353 00:47:42,484 --> 00:47:44,403 - Shaq, may I please have an autograph, please? 1354 00:47:44,486 --> 00:47:46,113 - That's when we became a household name. 1355 00:47:46,196 --> 00:47:49,116 - [vocalizing "Inspector Gadget" theme song] 1356 00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:51,451 ♪ ♪ 1357 00:47:51,535 --> 00:47:54,371 Another Dr. Lucille O'Neal quote: 1358 00:47:54,454 --> 00:47:55,706 before you succeed, 1359 00:47:55,789 --> 00:47:57,207 you must first learn to fail. 1360 00:47:58,417 --> 00:47:59,626 We got swept by the Pacers 1361 00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:02,045 'cause we didn't know how to win yet. 1362 00:48:02,129 --> 00:48:03,297 Wasn't good enough. 1363 00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:04,923 We're a young team. They a veteran team. 1364 00:48:05,007 --> 00:48:07,884 They know all the tricks, and we wasn't ready yet. 1365 00:48:09,553 --> 00:48:11,680 Third year, we got Horace Grant. 1366 00:48:11,763 --> 00:48:13,307 - One last time, Horace Grant. 1367 00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:14,516 - We were confidence. 1368 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,893 Penny was an all-star. I was an all-star. 1369 00:48:16,977 --> 00:48:18,478 Everything was flowin' great. 1370 00:48:18,562 --> 00:48:20,939 And then you go up against the great Michael Jordan. 1371 00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:23,650 - It came in a two-word statement, 1372 00:48:23,734 --> 00:48:24,818 "I'm back." 1373 00:48:24,901 --> 00:48:26,612 That was really all Jordan needed to say 1374 00:48:26,695 --> 00:48:29,615 as his 17-month retirement came to an end. 1375 00:48:29,698 --> 00:48:32,618 - The young student must kill the master 1376 00:48:32,701 --> 00:48:34,661 to become the master. 1377 00:48:34,745 --> 00:48:36,830 Mike is the man. 1378 00:48:36,913 --> 00:48:38,624 He left, he comes back. 1379 00:48:38,707 --> 00:48:41,001 I don't care if it's Michael on the court. 1380 00:48:41,084 --> 00:48:42,502 [dramatic music] 1381 00:48:42,586 --> 00:48:43,837 - I knew for us to get over the hump, 1382 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,714 we were gonna have to go through the Bulls, 1383 00:48:45,797 --> 00:48:48,008 the team that won three championships in a row. 1384 00:48:48,091 --> 00:48:49,176 But we knew the competitive nature 1385 00:48:49,259 --> 00:48:51,845 of Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. 1386 00:48:51,928 --> 00:48:53,221 We were the young guns. 1387 00:48:53,305 --> 00:48:54,890 ♪ ♪ 1388 00:48:54,973 --> 00:48:56,350 We weren't really caring about any of that. 1389 00:48:56,433 --> 00:48:57,643 We just knew that we had to go ball. 1390 00:48:57,726 --> 00:48:58,977 - Shaquille O'Neal over Michael. 1391 00:48:59,061 --> 00:49:00,687 That's another three for Anfernee Hardaway. 1392 00:49:00,771 --> 00:49:01,688 - And that's what we did. 1393 00:49:01,772 --> 00:49:03,649 - ♪ I turn to a savage and a beast ♪ 1394 00:49:03,732 --> 00:49:05,817 - And there's Shaq. - Shaquille. 1395 00:49:05,901 --> 00:49:06,777 - Backs him all the way 1396 00:49:06,860 --> 00:49:08,612 and goes up and dunks the ball. 1397 00:49:08,695 --> 00:49:10,447 - Had some problems at the end of the year. 1398 00:49:10,530 --> 00:49:12,824 That's Hardaway with the reverse. 1399 00:49:12,908 --> 00:49:14,201 - Jordan hard to the hoop. 1400 00:49:14,284 --> 00:49:15,869 The reverse from Michael! 1401 00:49:15,952 --> 00:49:17,287 - Shaquille down low. 1402 00:49:17,371 --> 00:49:19,998 Ran the double team. Hardaway hammer time. 1403 00:49:20,082 --> 00:49:22,334 - Pippen driving, stripped by O'Neal. 1404 00:49:22,417 --> 00:49:23,752 O'Neal dunks the ball. 1405 00:49:23,835 --> 00:49:24,795 - It's all over. 1406 00:49:24,878 --> 00:49:26,755 And the Bulls' season comes to an end 1407 00:49:26,838 --> 00:49:29,049 here at the United Center, and the Orlando Magic, 1408 00:49:29,132 --> 00:49:30,550 the number one team... - It was like winning 1409 00:49:30,634 --> 00:49:32,636 the respect battle. 1410 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,721 It was winning the barbershop news. 1411 00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:37,224 And that was the bragging rights. 1412 00:49:37,307 --> 00:49:40,686 For that weekend, that day, we kicked the Bulls' butt. 1413 00:49:40,769 --> 00:49:42,938 - Now, just think about it. You just beat Michael Jordan. 1414 00:49:43,021 --> 00:49:44,356 Who else is left? 1415 00:49:44,439 --> 00:49:46,900 Ain't nobody else left in the league. 1416 00:49:46,983 --> 00:49:48,485 - We weren't worried about playing 1417 00:49:48,568 --> 00:49:51,863 the Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference final. 1418 00:49:51,947 --> 00:49:54,324 - The crowd's standing and cheering, 1419 00:49:54,408 --> 00:49:55,992 and they may not sit down till Wednesday. 1420 00:49:56,076 --> 00:49:57,369 - We have about six, seven days off. 1421 00:49:57,452 --> 00:49:58,537 We partyin'. 1422 00:49:58,620 --> 00:50:01,331 Me and D Scott, we in Atlanta at Magic City. 1423 00:50:01,415 --> 00:50:02,416 We did a rap song. 1424 00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:05,252 - ♪ Just a little bit of magic tonight ♪ 1425 00:50:05,335 --> 00:50:06,545 B Shaw, myself. 1426 00:50:06,628 --> 00:50:07,713 ♪ Everything's gonna be all right ♪ 1427 00:50:07,796 --> 00:50:09,131 Then Penny came by, but Penny didn't really rap. 1428 00:50:09,214 --> 00:50:10,257 He was just there. 1429 00:50:10,340 --> 00:50:13,135 We were the Showtime of the South. 1430 00:50:13,218 --> 00:50:16,555 And we wanted to say, "Hey, we know we're good." 1431 00:50:16,638 --> 00:50:20,267 So game one of the finals, 1432 00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:21,393 we're rollin'. 1433 00:50:21,476 --> 00:50:22,436 I'm hittin' threes. 1434 00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:24,688 Shaq's dunkin'. Penny's doing his thing. 1435 00:50:24,771 --> 00:50:25,772 - We was up the whole game. 1436 00:50:25,856 --> 00:50:29,443 And, like, they come back and they go crazy. 1437 00:50:29,526 --> 00:50:31,570 And Nick Anderson, he has the chance 1438 00:50:31,653 --> 00:50:33,029 to make two free throws. 1439 00:50:33,113 --> 00:50:34,573 He misses, 1440 00:50:34,656 --> 00:50:36,783 gets his own rebound, gets fouled again. 1441 00:50:36,867 --> 00:50:38,744 I'm like, "Bro, just hit these two free throws 1442 00:50:38,827 --> 00:50:40,412 "so we can get this little lead, get it stopped. 1443 00:50:40,495 --> 00:50:41,788 We gonna win the first game." 1444 00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:44,541 - Well, the three to make four rule, that's-- 1445 00:50:44,624 --> 00:50:46,251 [chuckles] That's-- - And then Nick misses 1446 00:50:46,334 --> 00:50:47,294 those free throws. 1447 00:50:47,377 --> 00:50:49,296 - And he misses four straight. 1448 00:50:49,379 --> 00:50:51,798 The Rockets... - We lose our mojo. 1449 00:50:51,882 --> 00:50:54,634 Tide changes. Hakeem gets hot. 1450 00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:56,136 Drexler's doing his thing. 1451 00:50:56,219 --> 00:50:57,429 - And then we lost game one. 1452 00:50:57,512 --> 00:50:59,306 - The Houston Rockets have stunned 1453 00:50:59,389 --> 00:51:01,767 the Orlando Magic. - Now we're worried. 1454 00:51:01,850 --> 00:51:03,852 The problem with the finals is, 1455 00:51:03,935 --> 00:51:05,687 I was going up against one of my idols 1456 00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:07,105 and I showed him too much respect. 1457 00:51:07,189 --> 00:51:08,607 [crowd cheering] 1458 00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:11,943 Now we come into game two, and they blow us out. 1459 00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,571 We go to game three in Houston, and we lose. 1460 00:51:14,654 --> 00:51:16,948 [cheers and applause] 1461 00:51:17,032 --> 00:51:18,450 We go to game four... 1462 00:51:18,533 --> 00:51:21,453 [crowd cheering] 1463 00:51:21,536 --> 00:51:23,121 They blow us out. 1464 00:51:23,205 --> 00:51:24,790 - The Houston Rockets 1465 00:51:24,873 --> 00:51:28,543 have swept the Orlando Magic. 1466 00:51:29,503 --> 00:51:32,839 - We were still young and naive. 1467 00:51:34,257 --> 00:51:36,343 Did we say all the right things in practice? 1468 00:51:36,426 --> 00:51:38,553 Did we do all the right things in practice? 1469 00:51:38,637 --> 00:51:40,305 Did we come out and play hard? 1470 00:51:40,388 --> 00:51:42,516 We did! We tried. 1471 00:51:45,143 --> 00:51:46,770 That is-- 1472 00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:54,277 That is my saddest moment... 1473 00:51:56,738 --> 00:51:58,448 To be honest with you. 1474 00:52:01,701 --> 00:52:03,620 Because we never... 1475 00:52:06,706 --> 00:52:09,292 Got it back. 1476 00:52:09,376 --> 00:52:12,212 [upbeat music] 1477 00:52:12,295 --> 00:52:14,422 - I'm walking down the street in Chicago. 1478 00:52:14,506 --> 00:52:16,299 This lady comes up to me and says, 1479 00:52:16,383 --> 00:52:17,717 "You shouldn't do that to your father. 1480 00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:19,678 You should give him a second chance." 1481 00:52:19,761 --> 00:52:22,013 I'm like, "What are you talking about?" 1482 00:52:22,097 --> 00:52:24,891 - Can you imagine losing contact with your son 1483 00:52:24,975 --> 00:52:26,434 and being able to hear about him 1484 00:52:26,518 --> 00:52:27,853 only through the press? 1485 00:52:27,936 --> 00:52:29,354 - And then I get home. I called my mom. 1486 00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:31,815 I said, "Mommy, look, did Daddy do something?" 1487 00:52:31,898 --> 00:52:34,192 And she's-- "No. 1488 00:52:34,276 --> 00:52:37,112 But Joe Toney done went on the 'Ricki Lake' show." 1489 00:52:37,195 --> 00:52:39,447 I'm like, "What? Who?" 1490 00:52:39,531 --> 00:52:41,908 - Joe Toney is Shaquille O'Neal's birth father 1491 00:52:41,992 --> 00:52:44,578 and hasn't spoken to him in over a decade. 1492 00:52:44,661 --> 00:52:46,204 He says no matter how hard he has tried 1493 00:52:46,288 --> 00:52:47,539 to contact Shaquille, 1494 00:52:47,622 --> 00:52:50,292 his requests to see his son have been turned down. 1495 00:52:50,375 --> 00:52:52,794 - Basically, when Shaquille was born, 1496 00:52:52,878 --> 00:52:55,589 I got in trouble. I was involved with drugs. 1497 00:52:55,672 --> 00:52:57,757 And when he was six months old, I got locked up. 1498 00:52:57,841 --> 00:52:59,426 I went to prison for five years. 1499 00:52:59,509 --> 00:53:00,594 When I came back from prison, 1500 00:53:00,677 --> 00:53:02,596 she had married this gentleman in the service 1501 00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:04,180 and they moved to Germany. 1502 00:53:04,264 --> 00:53:06,433 They gave me a bogus address 1503 00:53:06,516 --> 00:53:08,602 at which to get in touch with them which didn't work. 1504 00:53:08,685 --> 00:53:09,895 But like I said, I just want to get the message-- 1505 00:53:09,978 --> 00:53:11,730 I just want a few minutes of his time. 1506 00:53:11,813 --> 00:53:14,900 - I can almost believe that he heard about Shaquille 1507 00:53:14,983 --> 00:53:17,944 from the time he was becoming national news. 1508 00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:21,990 And it probably was burning in him--he missed everything. 1509 00:53:22,073 --> 00:53:24,576 But Shaquille didn't care. 1510 00:53:24,659 --> 00:53:26,077 He wrote a song about Phil. 1511 00:53:26,161 --> 00:53:28,580 He said, "He took me from a boy to a man. 1512 00:53:28,663 --> 00:53:29,748 "And Phil is my father 1513 00:53:29,831 --> 00:53:32,292 'cause my biological didn't bother." 1514 00:53:32,375 --> 00:53:34,127 - ♪ Took me from a boy to a man ♪ 1515 00:53:34,210 --> 00:53:35,962 "Oh, I just want to see him. 1516 00:53:36,046 --> 00:53:37,380 I want to do this. I want to do that." 1517 00:53:37,464 --> 00:53:39,341 But in my mind, it's, 1518 00:53:39,424 --> 00:53:41,968 "When I was trying to get some shoes, where were you?" 1519 00:53:42,052 --> 00:53:43,637 My mom always told me, "Hey, beware. 1520 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:46,473 Once you get this money, everybody comin'." 1521 00:53:46,556 --> 00:53:47,807 And he was the first one. 1522 00:53:47,891 --> 00:53:49,309 ♪ Biological didn't bother ♪ 1523 00:53:49,392 --> 00:53:51,394 ♪ Bother, bother, bother ♪ 1524 00:53:51,478 --> 00:53:55,273 That year, Penny redid his contract. 1525 00:53:55,357 --> 00:53:57,442 He sat out a couple games. 1526 00:53:57,525 --> 00:54:01,196 Wanted more money than me, which is fine. 1527 00:54:01,279 --> 00:54:03,657 'Cause one thing I understood was marketing and business. 1528 00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:06,826 You pay him $30 million, you gotta pay me $60 million. 1529 00:54:06,910 --> 00:54:08,495 - It was never in the negotiations 1530 00:54:08,578 --> 00:54:09,621 where I was saying I need to make more 1531 00:54:09,704 --> 00:54:11,790 than anybody on the team, Shaq or anyone. 1532 00:54:11,873 --> 00:54:13,041 I just wanted my worth. 1533 00:54:13,124 --> 00:54:16,044 - I create jealousies for myself. 1534 00:54:16,127 --> 00:54:19,381 If you have something, internally, I say I want it. 1535 00:54:19,464 --> 00:54:21,007 And then I just gotta go get it. 1536 00:54:21,091 --> 00:54:22,968 - And then with his tenth three-pointer, 1537 00:54:23,051 --> 00:54:25,053 a new NBA record... 1538 00:54:25,136 --> 00:54:28,181 - I knew that Shaq has to get the first shot. 1539 00:54:28,264 --> 00:54:30,934 If you didn't understand that about him, 1540 00:54:31,017 --> 00:54:33,895 then that's where you were gonna have problems. 1541 00:54:33,979 --> 00:54:35,855 Being the biggest guy in the room, 1542 00:54:35,939 --> 00:54:38,984 he wants the biggest and the most of everything. 1543 00:54:39,067 --> 00:54:41,152 That's for his own ego. 1544 00:54:41,236 --> 00:54:44,489 Our team was young, pretty immature. 1545 00:54:44,572 --> 00:54:46,616 I think that that slowly started to affect 1546 00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:49,160 the camaraderie or lack of it. 1547 00:54:49,244 --> 00:54:51,955 - That's the first part of destroying a franchise, 1548 00:54:52,038 --> 00:54:53,623 destroying a team, 1549 00:54:53,707 --> 00:54:56,126 because your two best players need to be on the same page. 1550 00:54:56,209 --> 00:54:58,128 Like, he was upset that I was getting 1551 00:54:58,211 --> 00:54:59,754 more money or the same amount of money 1552 00:54:59,838 --> 00:55:01,840 or that he deserved more. 1553 00:55:01,923 --> 00:55:03,633 But I felt like he was the man 1554 00:55:03,717 --> 00:55:06,678 and that they were gonna do for him what needed to be done. 1555 00:55:06,761 --> 00:55:09,222 - We came back next year. We're rollin'. 1556 00:55:09,305 --> 00:55:12,726 But it wasn't that same feeling. 1557 00:55:12,809 --> 00:55:16,229 Is Shaq stayin' now? Is Shaq leavin'? 1558 00:55:16,312 --> 00:55:18,023 Is he gettin' a contract? 1559 00:55:18,106 --> 00:55:20,233 Everything changed. 1560 00:55:21,901 --> 00:55:23,028 [buzzer blares] 1561 00:55:23,111 --> 00:55:25,196 - A look at the starting lineups. 1562 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,241 The Magic will start without Shaquille O'Neal. 1563 00:55:28,324 --> 00:55:31,286 - Well, in 1996, my grandmother died. 1564 00:55:31,369 --> 00:55:33,038 After the funeral, I just needed a couple days 1565 00:55:33,121 --> 00:55:34,914 to just relax. 1566 00:55:34,998 --> 00:55:36,541 But they callin' me, "We're playin' the Bulls. 1567 00:55:36,624 --> 00:55:38,752 Come, come, come." Like, "No, I'm not comin'." 1568 00:55:38,835 --> 00:55:42,297 That's more important to them than my family. 1569 00:55:42,380 --> 00:55:43,923 A damn game. 1570 00:55:44,007 --> 00:55:47,093 - Here comes Shaquille O'Neal. 1571 00:55:47,177 --> 00:55:48,928 With a sense of drama, 1572 00:55:49,012 --> 00:55:52,474 Shaquille O'Neal just arrived at the arena. 1573 00:55:52,557 --> 00:55:55,769 He is hustling back to the Orlando locker room 1574 00:55:55,852 --> 00:55:58,938 and, obviously, will try to get himself into uniform 1575 00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:01,066 and will be appearing on the bench. 1576 00:56:01,149 --> 00:56:04,819 - So I come in the middle. We lose. 1577 00:56:04,903 --> 00:56:06,946 And I do something I wasn't supposed to do. 1578 00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:09,157 I go upstairs and say, 1579 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,701 "We startin' off at $115 million." 1580 00:56:11,785 --> 00:56:14,579 They, whoever they may be, did a poll. 1581 00:56:14,662 --> 00:56:17,415 "Is Shaq worth $115 million?" 1582 00:56:17,499 --> 00:56:19,250 And the town said no. 1583 00:56:19,334 --> 00:56:20,627 - Well, I just think if Shaq is as good 1584 00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:22,504 as he thinks he is, why do they ever have 1585 00:56:22,587 --> 00:56:24,464 25, 30 rebounds in a game? 1586 00:56:24,547 --> 00:56:26,382 Why didn't he step up in the fourth quarter? 1587 00:56:26,466 --> 00:56:27,967 You know, he was... - Shaquille O'Neal, 1588 00:56:28,051 --> 00:56:30,804 who's already a millionaire and has a mansion, 1589 00:56:30,887 --> 00:56:32,430 how much more does he need? 1590 00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:34,557 - How dare you ask the community 1591 00:56:34,641 --> 00:56:35,809 should he be paid that much? 1592 00:56:35,892 --> 00:56:36,935 You know better. 1593 00:56:37,018 --> 00:56:38,144 Or maybe you don't. 1594 00:56:38,228 --> 00:56:40,105 - I just think that the man didn't want to play 1595 00:56:40,188 --> 00:56:42,065 for the Magic anymore because he wasn't 1596 00:56:42,148 --> 00:56:45,110 the main man anymore because we got Penny. 1597 00:56:45,193 --> 00:56:47,779 - It reminded me of Snoop Dogg at the Source Awards. 1598 00:56:47,862 --> 00:56:49,948 - The East Coast don't love Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg? 1599 00:56:50,031 --> 00:56:52,784 - Orlando Magic, y'all don't love Shaquille O'Neal? 1600 00:56:52,867 --> 00:56:54,119 - Y'all don't love us? - Y'all don't love me? 1601 00:56:54,202 --> 00:56:56,830 - Shaq wanted to stay with the Orlando Magic. 1602 00:56:56,913 --> 00:56:58,414 He was a small-town guy. 1603 00:56:58,498 --> 00:56:59,874 Instead of offering 1604 00:56:59,958 --> 00:57:03,670 the most dominant player in basketball a max deal, 1605 00:57:03,753 --> 00:57:07,090 they started playing around trying to negotiate with him. 1606 00:57:07,173 --> 00:57:10,844 It really made him feel disrespected. 1607 00:57:10,927 --> 00:57:13,847 - There's no loyalty in any game. 1608 00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:16,516 So get a call from my guy. 1609 00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:18,351 He said, "They offered you $80 million for four. 1610 00:57:18,434 --> 00:57:21,020 I'm like, "That's cool. I could take that." 1611 00:57:21,104 --> 00:57:24,065 Basketball gods or something said, "Don't do it." 1612 00:57:26,609 --> 00:57:27,777 - How much he get? 1613 00:57:29,362 --> 00:57:30,321 - Congratulations, Zo. 1614 00:57:30,405 --> 00:57:32,490 Man, I'm just, you know, hoping to get 1615 00:57:32,574 --> 00:57:33,825 a pretty good deal. 1616 00:57:33,908 --> 00:57:37,579 The Miami Heat signed Juwan for $110 million 1617 00:57:37,662 --> 00:57:39,914 and Alonzo for $115 million. 1618 00:57:39,998 --> 00:57:42,667 And I'm like, "I done killed both of them 1619 00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:44,210 their whole career." 1620 00:57:44,294 --> 00:57:45,670 - Oh! Oh, what a dunk. 1621 00:57:45,753 --> 00:57:48,798 - If a top-of-the-line BMW costs $110 million, 1622 00:57:48,882 --> 00:57:50,884 what does a top-of-the-line Mercedes cost? 1623 00:57:50,967 --> 00:57:52,385 Much more. 1624 00:57:52,468 --> 00:57:54,554 So then we're in the Olympics. We're trainin'. 1625 00:57:54,637 --> 00:57:56,347 Uncle Jerome and I were out-- 1626 00:57:56,431 --> 00:57:58,183 at a gentleman's club, I may add. 1627 00:57:58,266 --> 00:58:00,977 - I remember he got a call from his agent at the time 1628 00:58:01,060 --> 00:58:02,228 that we had to meet him. 1629 00:58:02,312 --> 00:58:04,022 It was, like, early in the morning. 1630 00:58:04,105 --> 00:58:05,565 When we get there, 1631 00:58:05,648 --> 00:58:08,401 his agent is there and Mr. West is there. 1632 00:58:08,484 --> 00:58:10,069 - And then he was like, "Jerry, tell him." 1633 00:58:10,153 --> 00:58:12,947 And Jerry says, "We got some good news 1634 00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:14,073 and I got some bad news." 1635 00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:15,408 And I said, "What's the bad news?" 1636 00:58:15,491 --> 00:58:17,410 He said, "I can't get you that $115 million." 1637 00:58:17,493 --> 00:58:18,536 I said, "What's the good news?" 1638 00:58:18,620 --> 00:58:20,413 "I can get you to $120 million." 1639 00:58:20,496 --> 00:58:21,581 I was like... 1640 00:58:21,664 --> 00:58:24,209 - As a basketball player, I cried. 1641 00:58:24,292 --> 00:58:27,754 Shaq on the floor makes life easier 1642 00:58:27,837 --> 00:58:30,173 because he's that dominant. 1643 00:58:30,256 --> 00:58:31,925 - I didn't know that he was leaving Orlando 1644 00:58:32,008 --> 00:58:35,553 until I saw the actual press conference 1645 00:58:35,637 --> 00:58:37,430 with him holding a Laker jersey 1646 00:58:37,513 --> 00:58:39,015 with Jerry West. 1647 00:58:39,098 --> 00:58:40,808 - Didn't communicate at all. 1648 00:58:40,892 --> 00:58:43,144 Not one time did we call each other 1649 00:58:43,228 --> 00:58:45,605 and talk to each other and talk it out. 1650 00:58:45,688 --> 00:58:47,106 - Penny didn't even know. 1651 00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:49,359 But all I really wanted was for Penny to go 1652 00:58:49,442 --> 00:58:51,402 to the Orlando and say, "Pay Shaq. 1653 00:58:51,486 --> 00:58:53,071 "Shaq stuck up for me. Now I'm stickin' up for him. 1654 00:58:53,154 --> 00:58:55,031 Pay him." But he never did that. 1655 00:58:55,114 --> 00:58:58,076 So in my mind, I was like, "Okay, you want to be the man? 1656 00:58:58,159 --> 00:58:59,327 There you go." 1657 00:58:59,410 --> 00:59:01,246 In case you haven't figured it out yet, 1658 00:59:01,329 --> 00:59:03,456 I've signed with the Los Angeles Lakers. 1659 00:59:03,539 --> 00:59:06,084 Keep in mind the word "change." 1660 00:59:06,167 --> 00:59:08,461 To me, change is for the good. 1661 00:59:08,544 --> 00:59:11,631 And right when I'm signin', Jerry West says to me, 1662 00:59:11,714 --> 00:59:13,466 "In a couple years, you're gonna be 1663 00:59:13,549 --> 00:59:15,176 "one of the best basketball players 1664 00:59:15,260 --> 00:59:16,928 ever to play the game." 1665 00:59:17,011 --> 00:59:19,055 Pause. I was like, "You know what? 1666 00:59:19,138 --> 00:59:20,640 You might be right." 1667 00:59:20,723 --> 00:59:22,684 [gears rumbling] 1668 01:00:52,774 --> 01:00:55,318 [bright tone]