1 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,640 [Graham] Are we a species with amnesia? 2 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,480 Could we have forgotten a vital part of our own story? 3 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,600 I'm Graham Hancock, 4 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,360 and many archaeologists hate me for trying to find out. 5 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,640 The notion of a lost advanced civilization of the Ice Age 6 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,640 is extremely threatening to mainstream archaeology 7 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,840 because it rips the ground out from under that entire discipline. 8 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,560 It removes the foundation. 9 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,120 I don't care about that. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,600 There's people that come along and because of their impact, 11 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,760 it changes the way people look at things. 12 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,560 Graham Hancock is a man who, 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,000 despite all of the insults, 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,840 and all of the people disparaging his work 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,400 he has trekked on and on and on. 16 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,280 What I care about is learning the lessons of the past 17 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:16,280 in order to clear away that fog that surrounds prehistory. 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,600 And it's a fog because there's no documents. 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,320 We have to build our picture of the past from fragmentary evidence. 20 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Folk stories, legends, myths. 21 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,080 These for me are all important evidence. 22 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:41,440 And one of the most mysterious and revealing mythologies in prehistory 23 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,320 comes down to us through the ancient cultures of Mexico. 24 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,480 [Graham] In my search for a lost civilization, 25 00:02:09,640 --> 00:02:14,360 I've come to a land of fertile valleys and simmering volcanoes. 26 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,480 This is the Puebla region, east of Mexico City. 27 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:27,200 The site of this country's oldest continuously inhabited city, Cholula. 28 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,560 Today, a modern metropolis of over 100,000 people, 29 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,880 it holds an ancient secret at its heart. 30 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:45,280 History is written by the victors. 31 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,640 That's especially true in Mexico. 32 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,840 When the Spanish conquistadors arrived in Cholula in 1519, 33 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:56,240 they massacred its inhabitants, 34 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,560 obliterating not only their culture, 35 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:02,720 but also almost all traces 36 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,880 of the more ancient cultures that had preceded them. 37 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,720 But the invaders couldn't erase everything. 38 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,520 The conquistadors had first assumed this hill was just that, a hill, 39 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,640 and they built a church on top of it. 40 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,800 But this hill isn't the natural feature it's often mistaken for. 41 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:29,160 In fact, it's the most massive monument ever built anywhere in the world. 42 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,040 And yet, chances are you've never heard of it. 43 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,880 This is the Great Pyramid of Cholula. 44 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,080 After centuries of neglect and pillaging, 45 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,760 it's impossible to understand 46 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,080 the sheer enormity of what once stood here. 47 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,360 But we do have some idea of what it must have looked like in its prime. 48 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,640 It's estimated that the Great Pyramid of Cholula 49 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,600 rose to at least 213 feet, 65 meters. 50 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,440 Evidence suggests it was originally dedicated 51 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,960 to the ancient Mexican god of rain and floods, 52 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,560 whom the Aztecs knew by the name of Tlaloc. 53 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Built mostly with mud and straw adobe bricks, 54 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,560 it wasn't as tall as Egypt's Great Pyramid of Giza, 55 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,640 but it was larger with nearly three times the footprint, 56 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,080 measuring 400 by 400 meters at its base, 57 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,080 roughly 30 football fields, 58 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,320 making this the largest monument 59 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,880 ever constructed by any civilization anywhere. 60 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,480 Archaeologists quickly established 61 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,680 that work on the pyramid was completed around eight centuries ago, 62 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,680 1200 AD or thereabouts. 63 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,840 But when they began cutting tunnels through the body of the structure, 64 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,400 they were stunned by what they discovered inside. 65 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,400 It's a surreal feeling 66 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,880 descending into the largest pyramid on Earth. 67 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Within are beautiful murals 68 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,440 depicting mythological scenes and creatures... 69 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,280 and tantalizing glimpses of many layers of construction. 70 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Do they offer clues to this site's biggest mystery? 71 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Could it be part of a global legacy 72 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,320 left behind by an ancient, advanced civilization of prehistory? 73 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,720 I'm joined by one of the world's leading experts on the Great Pyramid of Cholula, 74 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,000 University of Calgary anthropologist and archaeologist, Geoff McCafferty. 75 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,560 We're in the heart of the most massive monument 76 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,400 ever built anywhere in the ancient world. 77 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,760 You get almost the same sense as when you go into a church. 78 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:17,280 You know, there is a tangible sense of an aura of that power. 79 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,480 These tunnels were excavated by Mexican archaeologists. 80 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,080 There are a total of eight kilometers of tunnels. 81 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,720 - That's extraordinary. Eight kilometers? - Yeah. 82 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:32,800 [Graham] Using these tunnels, 83 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,560 archaeologists made an astounding discovery. 84 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,120 The Pyramid of Cholula is simply the latest 85 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,760 in a whole series of more ancient pyramids hidden beneath. 86 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Inside is an even older pyramid, 87 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,320 dating back to 800 AD or so, 88 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,720 and beneath that, another one 89 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,040 dating at least 200 to 500 years earlier. 90 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,160 Until like a series of Russian nesting dolls, 91 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,040 we get to what's thought to be the first and oldest pyramid built here, 92 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:24,840 still an impressive 120 meters square and 17 meters or 56 feet high. 93 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,120 When did construction first begin here? 94 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,480 So, the earliest evidence of construction of the ceremonial zone 95 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,440 dates to about 500 BC. 96 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,040 It was a good size pyramid. 97 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,040 Then, over time, it was expanded, 98 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,400 sort of larger construction over the top of the other. 99 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,400 [Graham] So this pyramid-building project 100 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,520 must have been carried out by multiple generations 101 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,480 over a span of 1,700 years, and possibly longer, 102 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,640 a fact now acknowledged by archaeologists. 103 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Yet modern scholarship 104 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,640 knows next to nothing about the original architects 105 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,760 or why they chose to build a pyramid here. 106 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,840 Precisely the mysteries that most interest me. 107 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,480 Do you get the sense that something may be missing 108 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,920 from the archaeological and historical story of ancient Mexico? 109 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,280 [Geoffrey] Well, not to be overly dramatic, 110 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 but I think that a better understanding of Cholula 111 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:40,240 would fundamentally change the perception of Mesoamerican history. 112 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,080 It is a black hole. 113 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:45,200 It is a black hole in Mexican history. 114 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,600 Do you think there was something here before that first pyramid was built? 115 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:54,440 The pyramid was built over an important spring. 116 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,520 [Graham] Yeah. 117 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,640 The spring represents a passageway into the underworld... 118 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,080 - Mmm. - ...so it was clearly an important 119 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,160 sacred space as well as a ceremonial focus. 120 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,920 The fact that the pyramid was the structure 121 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,800 that was chosen to be built upon that site is not accidental. 122 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,120 On the contrary, I believe it's a critical clue 123 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,240 to understanding the motivations of the original builders, 124 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,200 because that repeats a theme that we find all around the world. 125 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,360 We've already uncovered evidence 126 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,960 of a similar terraced pyramid in Indonesia at Gunung Padang 127 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,480 that also has a sacred spring at its heart. 128 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:38,280 It's a pattern found not just in Mexico or Indonesia. 129 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,600 That's the case with the subterranean chamber 130 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:43,520 beneath the Great Pyramid of Giza. 131 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:48,400 In my view, that is the first sacred place on the Giza plateau, 132 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,520 and the pyramids are later built on top of it to honor it. 133 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,080 The Pyramid of the Sun in TeotihuacĂĄn sits on top of a natural cavern. 134 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,400 They modified it somewhat 135 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,680 and then, they built a pyramid on top of it. 136 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,000 But the first thing was the place itself, 137 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,600 the sacred place, and the pyramids mark this. 138 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,960 You start off with a place 139 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,400 that for one reason or another is regarded as sacred, 140 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,440 that had a special magnetism that people could sense 141 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,280 that made it important and that made it matter. 142 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,840 The Great Pyramid of Cholula shares another key feature 143 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,000 with ancient pyramids all around the world. 144 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,560 Hints of hidden chambers. 145 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Not long after the Spanish conquest of Mexico, 146 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,320 a reliable eyewitness, Father Bernardino de SahagĂșn, 147 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:51,120 reported that the Great Pyramid of Cholula was full of mines and caves within. 148 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,280 Today, modern investigators have confirmed that observation. 149 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:03,560 One of the former archaeologists found, somewhere inside the pyramid, 150 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,600 an open room. 151 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,000 And there were tunnels leading into it. 152 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,200 It's never been published. 153 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,880 I don't know what the current situation is. 154 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,000 - That's a very tantalizing hint. - You think so? 155 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,080 Has that room ever been excavated? Has it ever been revisited? 156 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,880 Not that I know of. 157 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,920 [Graham] Why hasn't this inner chamber ever been revisited? 158 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,840 What secrets could it hold 159 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,880 about the intentions of the original builders? 160 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,160 Regardless, the fact that the Great Pyramid of Cholula 161 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,120 has a hidden inner chamber at all, 162 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,800 like its cousins in Gunung Padang and Giza, 163 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,160 is yet another striking feature shared by these structures. 164 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,840 And there's more. 165 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,600 So it's pretty well established that the structure 166 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:57,000 is oriented to the setting sun 167 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,760 - on the summer solstice. - That's correct. 168 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,160 The sun is setting between the two volcanoes to the west, 169 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,800 so it's very much a solstice-related orientation. 170 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:17,360 We know that the indigenous Mesoamericans were very clued into astronomical cycles. 171 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,080 [Graham] As were the ancient Egyptians, who built their Great Pyramid of Giza 172 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,680 to align precisely to true astronomical north. 173 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,000 The fact that these ancient pyramids, 174 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,000 whose builders supposedly had no contact with one another, 175 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,440 have so much in common is a mystery. 176 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,960 Is it just coincidence? 177 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,520 I don't think so. 178 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,120 The general view that archaeology puts forward, 179 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,920 is that pyramids were built in the form that they have 180 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,680 'cause that's the easiest way to make a high building. 181 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,120 The problem is that these structures are universally associated 182 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,640 with very specific spiritual ideas. 183 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,200 What happens to us after death? 184 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,080 This is always connected with pyramid structures, 185 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,600 and that's the case whether you find them in Mexico 186 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:11,400 or whether you find them in ancient Egypt 187 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,840 or whether you find them in Cambodia or whether you find them in India. 188 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,640 It's a detail that defies the accepted mainstream view 189 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,040 that various human civilizations around the world, 190 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,960 independently invented pyramids. 191 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,640 What it suggests to me 192 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,720 is that something else was going on behind the scenes. 193 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,320 Could we be witnessing the unfolding of some extraordinary master plan? 194 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,600 A shared legacy from a lost global civilization 195 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:48,720 that provided the seeds and the spark of inspiration 196 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,960 from which many later civilizations grew. 197 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,520 It's a possibility that leads me to ask 198 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,320 whether the pyramid-building project at Cholula 199 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,600 could have much older origins than most archaeologists want to believe. 200 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,640 What about the dating of the structure? 201 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Are there carbon dates from the earliest phases? 202 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:18,840 No. We've had ceramics that are similar to ceramics from the basin of Mexico 203 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,280 dating to, like, 1000 BC. 204 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,960 Does that give us enough to be confident about the whole story? 205 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,360 No. No, I would say absolutely not. 206 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,520 And there's a tremendous amount of work that needs to be done 207 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,640 - throughout the prehistory of Mexico. - Yeah. 208 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,960 I'm not disputing the archaeological evidence 209 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,000 that dates the first monumental construction 210 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,480 on the site of the Great Pyramid of Cholula 211 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,880 to around 2,300 years ago, but there are older pyramids in Mexico. 212 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,320 And what really interests me are the ideas that underpin them all. 213 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,640 By 1519, when the Spanish conquistadors arrived, 214 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,120 Cholula's Great Pyramid had fallen into disrepair. 215 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,320 But when they realized it was much more than just a hill, 216 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,520 and asked who built it, 217 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,920 the locals regaled them with a fascinating legend. 218 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,760 According to myth, 219 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,960 the Great Pyramid of Cholula was the work of a race of giants. 220 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Once upon a time, there were giants in ancient Mexico, 221 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:35,520 until the rain god Tlaloc grew angry and sent a great flood to destroy them. 222 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,000 Only seven survived the cataclysm. 223 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Fearing that a second deluge might follow, the giant Xelhua, known as the architect, 224 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,600 went to Cholula, 225 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,440 and with the help of its people 226 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,520 built a massive artificial mountain out of bricks, 227 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,080 a pyramid, 228 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,280 and dedicated it to the worship of Tlaloc, the rain god. 229 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,480 Archaeologists regard this as just a fanciful tale, 230 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,280 but I think that by ignoring it completely, 231 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,680 we're in danger of missing some important clues 232 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,040 to the origins of this incredible place. 233 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,160 Perhaps that architect 234 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,760 who appeared in Cholula after a great flood, 235 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,560 wasn't a physical giant, 236 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,760 but one of the intellectual giants 237 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,480 of an advanced civilization lost to history. 238 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,680 We shouldn't expect the evidence to be easy to find, 239 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,440 precisely because, as at Cholula, ancient monuments are often located 240 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,840 directly on top of still older constructions, 241 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,600 obscuring their origins. 242 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,520 About a two-hour drive to the northwest, 243 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,400 another remarkable site offers me my next clue. 244 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,480 Perched atop this uniquely-shaped hill 245 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,160 is an ancient Aztec complex known as Texcotzingo. 246 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,079 Here at Texcotzingo, we encounter a pyramid again, 247 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,560 this time a creation of the Earth herself. 248 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,880 It's easy to understand why this place 249 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,160 could have exerted a powerful magnetism on the ancients. 250 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,000 Pyramids clearly mattered in ancient Mexico. 251 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,520 Here, in the 15th century, 252 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,080 the Aztecs built a remarkable network of garden terraces and pools 253 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,160 fed by cleverly constructed aqueducts 254 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,480 that carried water down from a reservoir at the mountain's top. 255 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,640 It's like the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Mesoamerican style. 256 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,960 But intriguingly, from my investigations, 257 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,560 all of it was dedicated to the same ancient god 258 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,720 associated with the earliest pyramid at Cholula... 259 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:21,080 Tlaloc, the god of rains and floods, whose cult long predated the Aztecs. 260 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,920 Archaeologists believe that the Aztecs 261 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,880 were the first to pay attention to Texcotzingo, 262 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,440 but could this incredible site be much older? 263 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,120 The Spanish conquistadors took it for granted 264 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,520 that Texcotzingo was entirely the work of the Aztecs, 265 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,560 and that is what most archaeologists will tell you too. 266 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,480 But what if the Aztecs simply renovated and added to a site 267 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,760 originally created by a much older civilization? 268 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:05,360 Author Marco Vigato believes the evidence suggests that's exactly what happened. 269 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,280 This site was clearly reworked over a very long period of time. 270 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:13,320 The rock was a very hard type of porphyry stone. 271 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,440 If you look around at the site here, 272 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,920 you see that some of the stone surfaces are very heavily weathered. 273 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,640 Some parts of the site that clearly show evidence of erosion 274 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,640 must have continued for thousands of years, 275 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,120 taking into account this is an extremely hard type of stone. 276 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,080 [Graham] Right. So in your view, the Aztecs, 277 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,080 well, we know they were latecomers, 278 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:39,360 but they found this site at least partially worked already 279 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,960 and they took it over 280 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,800 - and developed it further. - Right. 281 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,400 [Graham] It's a radical thought. 282 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,680 Could a much older culture have carved out 283 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,240 some of the more unusual features on the side of the hill? 284 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,640 Like these deeply-weathered megaliths strewn on the ground. 285 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,880 And this chamber carved out of the bedrock. 286 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,840 This was almost certainly a pre-Aztec site. 287 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,800 - Mmm-hmm. - It was simply reoccupied and reused. 288 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,840 [Graham] It's a conclusion archaeologists would dispute, 289 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,240 but there's some relevant evidence to consider. 290 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,400 Not far away, in a dried-up riverbed at the foot of a mountain, 291 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,920 a huge statue of the rain god Tlaloc was uncovered. 292 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,880 The largest single cut stone in the entire Americas. 293 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,040 Archaeologists have dated it to around 700 AD, 294 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,560 long before the Aztecs dominated these lands. 295 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,920 It's proof that Tlaloc, the rain god, 296 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,640 had already been worshipped in this area by earlier cultures, 297 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,560 perhaps under several different names, 298 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,120 for nearly a thousand years, and maybe longer. 299 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,320 In fact, Tlaloc, as a mythological character, 300 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,760 goes back all the way 301 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,760 to the earliest known cultures of prehistoric Mexico. 302 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,480 And he's not alone. 303 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,840 The global floods sent by the rain god sets the stage 304 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,000 for the appearance of the most intriguing character in Mexican mythology... 305 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,360 Quetzalcoatl. 306 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:39,840 After the Great Flood, 307 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,400 a stranger from the east landed on Mexico's shores 308 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:49,120 riding on a boat with no paddles, said to be carried by serpents. 309 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,080 His name was Quetzalcoatl, 310 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,560 meaning, "the feathered serpent." 311 00:21:56,360 --> 00:22:00,960 He and his followers taught the locals how to grow crops and domesticate animals. 312 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:04,360 He gave them laws 313 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,080 and instructed them in the ways of architecture, astronomy and the arts. 314 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,480 They worshipped him as a deity. 315 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,160 But after being violently ousted by the followers of a Mexican war god, 316 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:23,400 Quetzalcoatl sailed away towards the east, promising one day to return. 317 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 [drums beating] 318 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,280 [native music playing] 319 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:35,160 The legend of Quetzalcoatl has been told for generations, even down to today. 320 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,960 [man singing in Nahuatl language] 321 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,400 We get a description of a heavily bearded individual. 322 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,000 He sounds a bit like a foreigner from across the ocean, 323 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,320 and he brings the gifts of civilization. 324 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,280 [man continues singing] 325 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:57,600 [Graham] What I find so astonishing is how often we've heard this story 326 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,480 from cultures that supposedly had no connection with ancient Mexico. 327 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,600 [blowing conch shell] 328 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,840 The setting is always the same. There has been a giant cataclysm. 329 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:17,600 The world has been plunged into darkness, floods, chaos everywhere. 330 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,120 Society is collapsing. 331 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,360 [thunder rumbling] 332 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,680 And then out of the darkness appears a figure who has knowledge 333 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,000 of what is necessary to make a civilization. 334 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,600 And that figure teaches the demoralized survivors of the cataclysm 335 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,560 how to start civilization again. 336 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,840 In ancient Greek mythology, it's the Titan Prometheus 337 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,720 who, after a great flood, shares with humans the secret of fire. 338 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,080 In the South American Andes, 339 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:58,120 pre-Inca civilizations describe a robed, bearded figure named Viracocha, 340 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,240 who emerged from a great lake 341 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,360 and taught the local people how to create amazing works of masonry 342 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,120 that still exist today. 343 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,920 Even in the Pacific, Polynesian legends talk of Maui, 344 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,720 who created their islands by pulling them up from the ocean floor, 345 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,200 and then taught the islanders to work with stone tools 346 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,280 and to cook their food. 347 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,680 Archaeologists say that these civilizing heroes 348 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,880 are just inventions of the ancients' elaborate fictions, 349 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,440 but I find the similarities hard to ignore. 350 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:42,640 What if these accounts describe the survivors of an advanced civilization 351 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,520 that was lost in the great cataclysms of flood and fire 352 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000 that we know occurred near the end of the last Ice Age? 353 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,280 The myths of Mexico 354 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,920 and the story of Quetzalcoatl in particular, 355 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,680 are tied to just such an apocalyptic moment. 356 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,200 And Marco believes there's a record of it 357 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,800 just a few hours' drive south of Mexico City, 358 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,880 amongst the ancient temples of Xochicalco. 359 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,720 Like Cholula, this city was originally built by an indigenous culture 360 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,440 we know little about in the 7th century AD. 361 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,880 Here, you'll find the remains of two large pyramids. 362 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,440 One dedicated to the rain god, 363 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:41,320 and the other dedicated to Mexico's civilizing hero, Quetzalcoatl. 364 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,000 I've come here to learn more about these so-called mythical characters. 365 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,200 For archaeologists, myths are fanciful and fragmentary. 366 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,480 They ignore them completely in their attempts to reconstruct the past. 367 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,920 But here at Xochicalco, some researchers see an attempt 368 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,640 to create a permanent record 369 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,680 of one of the most important myths in ancient Mexico. 370 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,800 A record they believe that preserves a forgotten episode in prehistory. 371 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Wrapped around the four sides of Quetzalcoatl's temple 372 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,440 are intricate carvings of this deity 373 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,280 in his manifestation as the feathered serpent. 374 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,360 Clearly, he was an important figure even back in 700 AD. 375 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,000 But Marco believes these glyphs carved in stone 376 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,480 may reveal missing details from his origin story. 377 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,400 What's special about this temple? 378 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,840 So what you have on the lower tier of the pyramid 379 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,880 is really a representation of the arrival of Quetzalcoatl 380 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,400 that unfolds on the three sides... 381 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,040 - Yeah. - ...of the pyramid 382 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:01,360 until we get here to the first significant glyph, here. 383 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,680 And what you see there is a flaming temple. 384 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,080 You have these scrolls of smoke or fire. 385 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,600 - [Graham] As though it's on fire. - Right. Exactly. 386 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,040 What about the coils of the serpent around it? 387 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,320 How do you read those in this context? 388 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,640 [Marco] Right, well, this is the tail of the serpent. 389 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560 - Yeah. - So, it wraps around this flaming temple. 390 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,160 It almost looks like a wave hitting... 391 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,560 - Okay. - ...the temple from the side. 392 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,520 You could almost see that as a representation of an island. 393 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800 So, we have a temple which is on fire 394 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,000 and waves are washing over it in your reading? 395 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,400 - Exactly. - Yeah. 396 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,640 Give me your interpretation of this scene, Marco. 397 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,680 [Marco] Well, you have this clearly powerful sitting figure 398 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,480 who looks like on a raft of snakes 399 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,080 that's almost heading away from the direction of this flaming temple. 400 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,920 [Graham] What you're seeing here is the depiction of a cataclysm 401 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,360 which occurs in a certain place, which Quetzalcoatl then is a survivor of. 402 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,440 You have this idea of the god coming from a land that was destroyed. 403 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,720 And what you have is the arrival of the god Quetzalcoatl here in Mexico 404 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,320 as a founder of Mesoamerican civilization. 405 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,400 It's a chronicle that goes back to a very remote past. 406 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,960 [Graham] Marco's reading of the temple's glyphs 407 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,640 as a depiction of an ancient apocalypse 408 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,240 flies in the face of all archaeological opinion. 409 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,600 But that doesn't necessarily mean he's wrong. 410 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,200 The Temple of The Feathered Serpent is about 1,300 years old, 411 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600 and archaeologists are right to say 412 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,680 that there was no global cataclysm in that epoch 413 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360 that could have inspired the Quetzalcoatl myth. 414 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,720 This misses the point. 415 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,960 The tradition is certainly much older than the temple. 416 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,000 How much older? No one knows. 417 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,200 But there's one period of prehistory that fits the bill perfectly. 418 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,640 Geologists have confirmed that there was an ancient apocalypse of some kind. 419 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,080 A period of great cataclysms and floods 420 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,640 that had as big an impact here as it did nearly everywhere else in the world... 421 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,760 sometime at the end of the last Ice Age, around 12,800 years ago. 422 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,480 Could the story of Quetzalcoatl's arrival date back as far as that? 423 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,440 I do not question the age of the structure itself. 424 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,920 What you have here is just the telling of a story that is in fact much older. 425 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,040 So, perhaps what's sadly lacking in archaeology 426 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,560 is an archaeology of ideas. 427 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,280 Perhaps they focus too much on the dates of a particular construction 428 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,360 and don't consider the ideas that it's expressing. 429 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,440 [Marco] Right. 430 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,520 [Graham] If we're willing to look back beyond the artificial horizons 431 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,640 that archeology sets, 432 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480 then the myth at once begins to make sense, 433 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,240 not as a fanciful account of imagined events, 434 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,240 but as a true record of a lost and forgotten past. 435 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,880 Archaeologists reject any such suggestion, 436 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,880 but I find it impossible to ignore 437 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,840 how widespread these tales of civilizing heroes are. 438 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,800 Sometimes speaking of gods, sometimes of humans, 439 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,840 who come in a time of chaos after the great cataclysm. 440 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,240 Teaching the skills of agriculture, 441 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,800 architecture, engineering and astronomy to the survivors. 442 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,480 In these traditions, 443 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,360 I believe the fingerprints of a lost civilization are to be found. 444 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,440 So, where was this lost civilization based before the cataclysm that destroyed it? 445 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,360 There are many possibilities that have never been properly considered. 446 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,760 Because, as we've seen, at the height of the last Ice Age, 447 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,720 the planet looked very different. 448 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,600 But further clues await us a quarter of the way around the world. 449 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,960 There, just as in Cholula, 450 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,120 dozens of immense temples were believed to have been built 451 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,960 by an ancient race of giants, 452 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:26,120 on islands that once weren't islands, in the heart of the Mediterranean Sea. 453 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,880 And that's where my journey takes me next, 454 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,440 to a gigantic riddle in stone. 455 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,240 The mysterious megaliths of Malta.