1 00:00:06,924 --> 00:00:09,635 - Mm. 2 00:00:09,677 --> 00:00:12,346 Mm. 3 00:00:12,388 --> 00:00:14,724 [smacks lips] Oh. 4 00:00:14,766 --> 00:00:17,727 [moans] 5 00:00:17,769 --> 00:00:21,314 Oh, that's interesting. 6 00:00:21,355 --> 00:00:23,357 Tell me more. 7 00:00:23,399 --> 00:00:25,902 I guess what I'm wondering is-- 8 00:00:25,943 --> 00:00:27,612 [moans] 9 00:00:27,653 --> 00:00:31,532 I'm Lauren Caspian, and this is "In the Know." 10 00:00:31,574 --> 00:00:32,825 Mm. 11 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:36,829 I'm Lauren Caspian, and this is "In the Know." 12 00:00:39,082 --> 00:00:42,168 You're a fucking god. 13 00:00:42,210 --> 00:00:45,171 [upbeat music] 14 00:00:45,213 --> 00:00:48,132 * * 15 00:00:48,174 --> 00:00:49,717 The unhoused man looked at me. 16 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:52,678 He looked me dead in the eyes, and he said, thank you. 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,139 Thank you for recognizing my humanity 18 00:00:55,181 --> 00:00:57,392 when the rest of the world refused. 19 00:00:57,433 --> 00:01:00,436 - The homeless guy said that? - Mm, with his eyes, yes. 20 00:01:00,478 --> 00:01:02,271 - And he's in the studio bathroom right now? 21 00:01:02,313 --> 00:01:04,190 - It was the least I could do. 22 00:01:04,232 --> 00:01:07,026 - Okay. Well, have a good show. 23 00:01:07,068 --> 00:01:09,570 - [laughs] Oh, Carl, I'm no hero. 24 00:01:09,612 --> 00:01:11,072 - What? 25 00:01:11,114 --> 00:01:15,910 - Oh, Carl, I wish I could see myself the way you see me. 26 00:01:15,952 --> 00:01:18,663 Oh, Carl, Saturday, Lin-Manuel Miranda's 27 00:01:18,704 --> 00:01:20,998 interviewing himself at The New Yorker Festival. 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,333 Want to be my plus-one? 29 00:01:22,375 --> 00:01:24,836 - Uh, I have friends in town Saturday. 30 00:01:24,877 --> 00:01:26,170 - Ah. 31 00:01:26,212 --> 00:01:28,172 Well, let's hang out next weekend. then? 32 00:01:28,214 --> 00:01:29,549 - They're here next weekend, too. 33 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:32,552 - Jeez Louise. They won't leave you alone. 34 00:01:32,593 --> 00:01:34,011 - I think they're just lonely 35 00:01:34,053 --> 00:01:37,473 and have a hard time picking up on social cues. 36 00:01:37,515 --> 00:01:40,393 - I was homeless once. - [gasps] 37 00:01:40,435 --> 00:01:43,312 - Yeah, s-summer of '66, I lived under a pier 38 00:01:43,354 --> 00:01:45,732 in Venice Beach with Jim Morrison. 39 00:01:45,773 --> 00:01:48,568 H-he used to beat the shit out of me. 40 00:01:51,154 --> 00:01:53,239 - [shudders] 41 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:56,993 - [groans] 42 00:01:57,034 --> 00:01:58,703 - Ah, Fabian, guten morgen. 43 00:01:58,745 --> 00:02:00,663 - [sighs] Don't start with me today, Lauren. 44 00:02:00,705 --> 00:02:02,457 I was just attacked on the subway. 45 00:02:02,498 --> 00:02:04,959 - Good God. What happened? 46 00:02:05,001 --> 00:02:08,046 - Some meathead's aftershave triggered one of my migraines. 47 00:02:08,087 --> 00:02:10,798 The way this country treats the neuro-sensitive 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,385 makes me want to firebomb a Bath & Body Works. 49 00:02:14,427 --> 00:02:16,012 - They're ready to go in five, Lauren. 50 00:02:16,054 --> 00:02:18,890 - Um, do you have the research for the first guest? 51 00:02:21,267 --> 00:02:24,520 This just says "straight white woman." 52 00:02:24,562 --> 00:02:26,606 - Tells you everything you need to know. 53 00:02:29,358 --> 00:02:31,778 [elevator bell dings] 54 00:02:31,819 --> 00:02:34,489 - [chuckles] Chase, interns are supposed to get here by 9:00. 55 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:35,740 We've talked about this. 56 00:02:35,782 --> 00:02:37,825 - Dude, it's crazy I even came in. 57 00:02:37,867 --> 00:02:39,660 Last night this couple I was banging 58 00:02:39,702 --> 00:02:42,330 accidentally locked me in their home sensory-deprivation tank, 59 00:02:42,371 --> 00:02:44,373 and I was frickin' screaming all night. 60 00:02:44,415 --> 00:02:45,833 - What, they didn't hear you? 61 00:02:45,875 --> 00:02:48,544 - [sighs] They're both deaf-- techno accident. 62 00:02:48,586 --> 00:02:51,547 But they still DJ, which is inspiring as fuck. 63 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:54,634 - Good morning, everyone. Ready to have a great show? 64 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:57,720 - Ugh, Barb, you know I can't have management 65 00:02:57,762 --> 00:02:59,931 hovering over me before interviews. 66 00:02:59,972 --> 00:03:02,600 The last thing I need is some corporate fat cat 67 00:03:02,642 --> 00:03:04,560 purring "money, money, money" in my ear. 68 00:03:04,602 --> 00:03:06,729 - You make twice my salary. 69 00:03:06,771 --> 00:03:09,190 - It's not all about money, Barb. 70 00:03:09,232 --> 00:03:12,902 - Okay, showtime. 71 00:03:12,944 --> 00:03:14,862 - Scrooge McDuck. 72 00:03:14,904 --> 00:03:16,531 - Boomer Witch. 73 00:03:16,572 --> 00:03:20,284 [upbeat jazz music playing] 74 00:03:20,326 --> 00:03:22,370 - [slurps] Mmm. 75 00:03:22,412 --> 00:03:24,747 Hi, this is Lauren. 76 00:03:24,789 --> 00:03:28,418 Today we'll be unpacking the idea of beauty. 77 00:03:28,459 --> 00:03:31,003 Our first guest began modeling at just 13, 78 00:03:31,045 --> 00:03:32,839 proving that in fashion, 79 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,050 child labor doesn't just happen on the manufacturing side. 80 00:03:36,092 --> 00:03:40,263 An actress, fashion goddess, and fellow crazed book-slut, 81 00:03:40,304 --> 00:03:43,015 Kaia Gerber, welcome to "In the Know." 82 00:03:43,057 --> 00:03:46,144 - Wow, um, thank you. Thank you for having me. 83 00:03:46,185 --> 00:03:49,147 - Let's talk about the impossible beauty standards 84 00:03:49,188 --> 00:03:50,440 that models put forward. - Mm. 85 00:03:50,481 --> 00:03:51,983 - I buy most of my clothes 86 00:03:52,024 --> 00:03:54,152 from a company called Weak and Wiley, 87 00:03:54,193 --> 00:03:56,779 which makes a sweater with a built-in lumbar support. 88 00:03:56,821 --> 00:03:58,781 - Mm-hmm. - But I'm constantly turned off 89 00:03:58,823 --> 00:04:00,616 by how unattainably beautiful 90 00:04:00,658 --> 00:04:02,702 the male model is in their catalog. 91 00:04:02,744 --> 00:04:05,037 - Do you feel misled? Is that-- is that what the issue is? 92 00:04:05,079 --> 00:04:06,706 - Well, when I look at the catalog, 93 00:04:06,748 --> 00:04:08,458 I think, ooh, if I get that fair isle 94 00:04:08,499 --> 00:04:09,834 with the orthopedic Spanx, 95 00:04:09,876 --> 00:04:12,253 I'm going to look like Vadim from the catalog. 96 00:04:12,295 --> 00:04:13,504 - Mm-hmm. - But then I go 97 00:04:13,546 --> 00:04:15,506 to the food co-op, and I see myself reflected 98 00:04:15,548 --> 00:04:17,175 in their two-way mirror-- because there's been 99 00:04:17,216 --> 00:04:19,427 a lot of shoplifting at the food co-op, to be honest-- 100 00:04:19,469 --> 00:04:21,304 I look nothing like Vadim. 101 00:04:21,345 --> 00:04:23,139 - I do think it can be misleading. 102 00:04:23,181 --> 00:04:25,058 I think sometimes I'll see a photo of myself, 103 00:04:25,099 --> 00:04:27,060 and I don't even feel like it looks like me. 104 00:04:27,101 --> 00:04:29,520 So imagine that. - Mm. 105 00:04:29,562 --> 00:04:31,481 I like to treat my interviews like a trampoline 106 00:04:31,522 --> 00:04:33,524 and boing from one subject to another. 107 00:04:33,566 --> 00:04:36,027 - I'm ready. - Boing, boing. 108 00:04:36,069 --> 00:04:38,696 When you used to bring books to read backstage 109 00:04:38,738 --> 00:04:40,656 during fashion shows, people were surprised. 110 00:04:40,698 --> 00:04:42,658 Now, why do you think that is? 111 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:44,827 - There's a very common misconception 112 00:04:44,869 --> 00:04:47,455 about models that we're not intellectual. 113 00:04:47,497 --> 00:04:48,956 - [gasps] 114 00:04:48,998 --> 00:04:51,000 - So it doesn't take very much to impress people. 115 00:04:51,042 --> 00:04:54,170 - I found the same shadow assumption with me, 116 00:04:54,212 --> 00:04:56,005 which is they expect me to be intellectual, 117 00:04:56,047 --> 00:04:58,007 but they don't expect me to be sensual. 118 00:04:58,049 --> 00:04:59,717 - Mm. - And so they're surprised 119 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:01,552 when they come to my house and see my collection 120 00:05:01,594 --> 00:05:03,805 of erotic didgeridoos. - [chuckles, stammers] 121 00:05:03,846 --> 00:05:05,765 Why do you have didgeridoos? 122 00:05:05,807 --> 00:05:08,059 - Because of how erotic they are. 123 00:05:08,101 --> 00:05:09,811 - Right. - Boing. 124 00:05:09,852 --> 00:05:11,521 I'm trying to look younger. 125 00:05:11,562 --> 00:05:14,065 Do you eat breakfast? - [laughs] 126 00:05:18,486 --> 00:05:20,696 - [groans] 127 00:05:20,738 --> 00:05:22,198 - You know, spring semester I modeled 128 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,574 for this flip-flop company, 129 00:05:23,616 --> 00:05:25,451 where I'd climb in the back of this guy's SUV, 130 00:05:25,493 --> 00:05:28,704 and he'd photograph my feet in different kinds of sandals. 131 00:05:28,746 --> 00:05:30,373 It's a really exclusive brand. 132 00:05:30,415 --> 00:05:32,041 They don't have a physical store 133 00:05:32,083 --> 00:05:36,170 or a catalog or a website-- just that Lincoln Navigator. 134 00:05:36,212 --> 00:05:39,048 - [sniffing] 135 00:05:42,802 --> 00:05:45,388 Do you want to see me have a full-blown seizure? 136 00:05:45,430 --> 00:05:47,223 - What? 137 00:05:47,265 --> 00:05:49,726 I'm on the 14-day egg diet. 138 00:05:49,767 --> 00:05:52,311 This is how James Caan got in shape 139 00:05:52,353 --> 00:05:54,230 for "Freebie and the Bean." 140 00:05:54,272 --> 00:05:56,441 - Get rid of it. 141 00:05:58,568 --> 00:06:00,194 - Mm. [smooches] 142 00:06:00,236 --> 00:06:01,946 Wait for me. 143 00:06:04,949 --> 00:06:07,368 - Wouldn't it be better if, instead of choosing models 144 00:06:07,410 --> 00:06:09,412 using the current bizarre criteria, 145 00:06:09,454 --> 00:06:10,913 which, frankly, means most of them look 146 00:06:10,955 --> 00:06:12,915 like literal aliens from scary space, 147 00:06:12,957 --> 00:06:15,960 we just chose people at random like jury duty. 148 00:06:16,002 --> 00:06:17,795 - I agree. I do think that's worth exploring. 149 00:06:17,837 --> 00:06:19,630 It would definitely make it interesting. 150 00:06:19,672 --> 00:06:21,924 - [gasps] Imagine a hairy old man 151 00:06:21,966 --> 00:06:24,260 in enormous Balenciaga shoes, 152 00:06:24,302 --> 00:06:26,345 a female pipe fitter 153 00:06:26,387 --> 00:06:29,807 who just had dental surgery smizing in the new Donna Karan. 154 00:06:29,849 --> 00:06:32,643 Wouldn't that be refreshing? - Completely, yes. 155 00:06:32,685 --> 00:06:34,270 - And because I feel like we're in a flow 156 00:06:34,312 --> 00:06:35,855 where you're agreeing with me, 157 00:06:35,897 --> 00:06:38,066 would you mind if I rant about the violence of the male gaze? 158 00:06:38,107 --> 00:06:39,776 - Yeah, I would love to hear it. 159 00:06:39,817 --> 00:06:41,944 - And feel free to periodically chime in 160 00:06:41,986 --> 00:06:44,739 and say, amen, or, go off, queen, 161 00:06:44,781 --> 00:06:46,324 whatever feels natural. 162 00:06:46,365 --> 00:06:47,658 - Right, okay. 163 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:48,993 - Here I go. 164 00:06:49,035 --> 00:06:51,245 Men don't want these plastic waifs. 165 00:06:51,287 --> 00:06:54,791 We want a physically dominant version of ourselves. 166 00:06:54,832 --> 00:06:57,710 We want a woman with a big woolly shoulder bag 167 00:06:57,752 --> 00:07:00,755 and long COVID, who smells like hummus and coffee 168 00:07:00,797 --> 00:07:04,217 and has earrings that are sexy little wind chimes. 169 00:07:04,258 --> 00:07:06,636 - Mm. Amen. 170 00:07:06,677 --> 00:07:09,055 - We are all fortunate to live in a time-- 171 00:07:09,097 --> 00:07:10,598 - What's that one about? 172 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,518 - Oh, a family of scientists are kidnapped by time pirates. 173 00:07:13,559 --> 00:07:16,312 It's actually based on a real theory of special relativity. 174 00:07:16,354 --> 00:07:18,147 - Ooh, that sounds interesting. 175 00:07:18,189 --> 00:07:21,692 I'm reading another novel about the widows of Nova Scotia. 176 00:07:21,734 --> 00:07:23,903 - Oh, uh... 177 00:07:23,945 --> 00:07:25,863 Hey, has there been any progress 178 00:07:25,905 --> 00:07:27,657 in your husband's murder case? 179 00:07:27,698 --> 00:07:31,119 - Oh, I-I don't want to pester the police. 180 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:32,328 They're probably busy 181 00:07:32,370 --> 00:07:36,165 prepping for the St. Patrick's Day Parade. 182 00:07:36,207 --> 00:07:39,210 Dale loved parades. 183 00:07:39,252 --> 00:07:41,379 - How did you learn to walk in heels? 184 00:07:41,421 --> 00:07:44,841 - I actually took lessons, and that is a true story. 185 00:07:44,882 --> 00:07:47,385 - Do you remember the key lesson? 186 00:07:47,427 --> 00:07:49,804 - Yes. Don't sway your hips. 187 00:07:49,846 --> 00:07:50,972 - That's impossible for me, 188 00:07:51,013 --> 00:07:53,683 because I have a naturally sassy pelvis. 189 00:07:53,725 --> 00:07:55,893 - So do I, and it proved to be an issue. 190 00:07:55,935 --> 00:07:58,104 - Now, you've said you don't enjoy getting asked 191 00:07:58,146 --> 00:08:00,940 basic questions like, "What are three items in your purse?" 192 00:08:00,982 --> 00:08:04,360 So I'll ask, Kaia, what have you done that nobody knows 193 00:08:04,402 --> 00:08:05,862 that you are most ashamed of? 194 00:08:05,903 --> 00:08:09,490 And please be uncomfortably specific. 195 00:08:09,532 --> 00:08:12,326 - Oh, my-- - This is a safe space. 196 00:08:12,368 --> 00:08:14,495 - [inhales sharply] 197 00:08:14,537 --> 00:08:16,289 - Safe space. 198 00:08:16,330 --> 00:08:19,125 - Um, the three items in my purse, uh, are-- 199 00:08:19,167 --> 00:08:20,293 [laughs] 200 00:08:20,334 --> 00:08:22,879 [glass squeaking] 201 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,048 - Didn't your daughter try to get an internship here? 202 00:08:25,089 --> 00:08:27,884 - Yeah. She really loves journalism. 203 00:08:27,925 --> 00:08:30,428 - And then this dude got it? - 14... 204 00:08:30,470 --> 00:08:34,057 - Yeah, supposedly his parents made this big gift 205 00:08:34,098 --> 00:08:36,517 to NPR after he was put on academic probation 206 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,935 at Florida State. 207 00:08:37,977 --> 00:08:39,645 - That stinks. - Whoo! 208 00:08:39,687 --> 00:08:42,231 - Oh, Beth understands. [sighs] 209 00:08:42,273 --> 00:08:44,400 - What's your relationship to showers? 210 00:08:44,442 --> 00:08:46,069 - I love crying in the shower. 211 00:08:46,110 --> 00:08:48,905 When you don't know what's tears and what's water, 212 00:08:48,946 --> 00:08:50,573 that's one of my favorite things. 213 00:08:50,615 --> 00:08:53,618 - It's like peeing in the bath. You can't tell what's what. 214 00:08:55,912 --> 00:08:57,205 - Okay. [laughs] 215 00:08:57,246 --> 00:08:59,123 - You know, it's funny you brought up bathrooms. 216 00:08:59,165 --> 00:09:01,250 I-I don't normally talk about my street activism, 217 00:09:01,292 --> 00:09:03,878 but this morning I invited an unhoused man 218 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,838 to use our studio restroom. 219 00:09:07,298 --> 00:09:08,257 - Great. 220 00:09:08,299 --> 00:09:10,927 - Should I go off? - Yes, go off. 221 00:09:10,968 --> 00:09:13,054 [chuckles] - Go off who? 222 00:09:13,096 --> 00:09:15,139 - Go off, queen. 223 00:09:15,181 --> 00:09:18,059 - Boing. Do you like funerals? 224 00:09:18,101 --> 00:09:21,187 - Um... 225 00:09:21,229 --> 00:09:22,772 no. 226 00:09:22,814 --> 00:09:25,733 - Is there someone in our restroom right now? 227 00:09:25,775 --> 00:09:27,944 - Mm-hmm. 228 00:09:27,985 --> 00:09:30,780 - Oh, so what did everybody think? 229 00:09:30,822 --> 00:09:33,116 - Amazing. - Mm, yeah. 230 00:09:33,157 --> 00:09:35,493 - I'm a bit of a health freak myself. 231 00:09:35,535 --> 00:09:38,955 Twice a week, I do water reiki down at the Y. 232 00:09:38,996 --> 00:09:41,416 - Yeah. Workout classes slap. 233 00:09:41,457 --> 00:09:42,792 - It's not a class. 234 00:09:42,834 --> 00:09:45,044 It's just something I do to people in the pool. 235 00:09:45,086 --> 00:09:46,462 - Huh. 236 00:09:46,504 --> 00:09:49,549 - And what did you think of the interview, Miss Fabian? 237 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:54,345 - "A tone-deaf duet by two skeletal narcissists, 238 00:09:54,387 --> 00:09:57,432 emphasis on the 'cis,' #CancelInTheKnow." 239 00:09:57,473 --> 00:10:00,476 - Did you tweet that from the official show account? 240 00:10:00,518 --> 00:10:02,186 - Yeah. 241 00:10:02,228 --> 00:10:05,606 - Great interview, Lauren. - No, it's a team effort. 242 00:10:05,648 --> 00:10:07,108 I'm merely the big daddy. 243 00:10:07,150 --> 00:10:08,943 - Oh, I also wanted to let everyone know 244 00:10:08,985 --> 00:10:11,654 that that homeless gentleman is still in the bathroom. 245 00:10:11,696 --> 00:10:12,739 - Oh, Barb. - Huh? 246 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:14,657 - That is hate speech. 247 00:10:14,699 --> 00:10:16,784 He is an unhoused person. 248 00:10:16,826 --> 00:10:18,327 - Actually, the preferred term is 249 00:10:18,369 --> 00:10:20,663 "person who is currently without housing." 250 00:10:20,705 --> 00:10:21,664 - No, I don't think so. 251 00:10:21,706 --> 00:10:23,166 Are you sure? - Yes. 252 00:10:23,207 --> 00:10:24,542 - Oh, I'm sorry. 253 00:10:24,584 --> 00:10:26,669 I'm really very empathetic to the man's situation. 254 00:10:26,711 --> 00:10:28,421 I volunteer at a homeless shelter-- 255 00:10:28,463 --> 00:10:31,591 - Ah, ah, no, you volunteer at an unhoused shelter. 256 00:10:31,632 --> 00:10:34,927 - A shelter for persons currently without housing. 257 00:10:34,969 --> 00:10:36,804 - Well, it just feels very clunky. 258 00:10:36,846 --> 00:10:38,890 - Oh, I'm sorry, is it too inconvenient 259 00:10:38,931 --> 00:10:41,851 to treat vulnerable populations with respect? 260 00:10:41,893 --> 00:10:43,186 - How dare you? 261 00:10:43,227 --> 00:10:45,104 I was using the term Inuit back in the '90s. 262 00:10:45,146 --> 00:10:47,065 I've been spelling "womyn" with a Y 263 00:10:47,106 --> 00:10:49,192 since before I could spell my name. 264 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:51,235 - Either way, until he leaves, everyone on the floor 265 00:10:51,277 --> 00:10:53,446 will have to use the Starbucks down the street. 266 00:10:53,488 --> 00:10:54,906 - And maybe that will teach us 267 00:10:54,947 --> 00:10:57,366 about the lack of water closets in this country. 268 00:10:57,408 --> 00:11:01,037 May I remind you all that this is public radio? 269 00:11:01,079 --> 00:11:04,123 Let us urinate and do all other washroom "shamefuls" 270 00:11:04,165 --> 00:11:07,210 in solidarity with our unhoused brothers and sisters. 271 00:11:07,251 --> 00:11:09,087 - Brothers, sisters, and nonbinary siblings 272 00:11:09,128 --> 00:11:11,047 currently without housing. - God damn it! 273 00:11:15,635 --> 00:11:17,595 [distant siren wailing] - I'm proud of you all. 274 00:11:17,637 --> 00:11:19,222 We aren't just holding our urine, 275 00:11:19,263 --> 00:11:21,849 we're holding space for the forgotten 276 00:11:21,891 --> 00:11:24,018 and supposedly hideous among us. 277 00:11:24,060 --> 00:11:25,853 [elevator bell dings] - We're going to have to find 278 00:11:25,895 --> 00:11:27,188 a new place to take a leak. 279 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:29,524 That Starbucks has bad vibes. 280 00:11:29,565 --> 00:11:31,109 - What does that mean? 281 00:11:31,150 --> 00:11:33,069 - [whispering] They accused Sandy of stealing an egg. 282 00:11:33,111 --> 00:11:35,071 - Did you steal an egg? 283 00:11:36,406 --> 00:11:37,490 Sandy? 284 00:11:39,909 --> 00:11:41,911 - [normal voice] The manager said 285 00:11:41,953 --> 00:11:44,455 no more public-radio people. - [sighs] Great. 286 00:11:44,497 --> 00:11:46,874 - There's another Starbucks eight blocks further down. 287 00:11:46,916 --> 00:11:48,918 Go for it. - No, you go. 288 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,504 I don't want you getting another men's UTI. 289 00:11:51,546 --> 00:11:52,755 - Oh. Thanks, Barb. 290 00:11:52,797 --> 00:11:54,465 I'll get the guy in the bathroom a sandwich. 291 00:11:54,507 --> 00:11:57,343 - No, Carl, I-I know you're trying to do what's best, 292 00:11:57,385 --> 00:11:59,887 but we can't presume to know what this man wants. 293 00:11:59,929 --> 00:12:01,389 - I could ask him. 294 00:12:01,431 --> 00:12:03,224 - Oh, so it's this man's responsibility 295 00:12:03,266 --> 00:12:05,560 to teach us what persons currently without housing 296 00:12:05,601 --> 00:12:06,894 like to eat? 297 00:12:06,936 --> 00:12:08,980 [scoffs] Do the work, Barb. 298 00:12:09,021 --> 00:12:11,399 - I could give him money. - Jesus Chri-- 299 00:12:11,441 --> 00:12:13,401 I mean, Barb, what is this craven obsession with money? 300 00:12:13,443 --> 00:12:14,777 - Wow. 301 00:12:14,819 --> 00:12:16,320 - And you wonder why you're miserable. 302 00:12:16,362 --> 00:12:18,531 - I'm pretty happy, all things considered. 303 00:12:18,573 --> 00:12:20,074 - I'll be back in 15. 304 00:12:20,116 --> 00:12:23,745 - Uh, Carl, I'm sorry, but we need to tape Sandy's segment 305 00:12:23,786 --> 00:12:25,204 if we want to stay on schedule. 306 00:12:25,246 --> 00:12:27,248 Can you stay? - Lauren. 307 00:12:27,290 --> 00:12:30,418 - [groans] It's okay, Barb. I'll manage. 308 00:12:30,460 --> 00:12:32,503 - And that, ladies and gentlemen, 309 00:12:32,545 --> 00:12:35,173 is why Carl and I are best friends. 310 00:12:36,632 --> 00:12:38,760 [whimsical music playing] 311 00:12:38,801 --> 00:12:41,304 - Season's greetings, movie mavens. 312 00:12:41,345 --> 00:12:44,724 It's time for another edition of "Candid Culture," 313 00:12:44,766 --> 00:12:47,185 with me, Sandy Cooter. 314 00:12:47,226 --> 00:12:49,228 - [whispering] If you need to go, I can cover. 315 00:12:49,270 --> 00:12:50,354 - I'm okay. 316 00:12:50,396 --> 00:12:52,857 It helps if I focus on something else. 317 00:12:52,899 --> 00:12:55,151 - Today I'll be sharing my views 318 00:12:55,193 --> 00:12:59,322 on the Andrew Samberg romp, "Palm Springs." 319 00:12:59,363 --> 00:13:01,574 - Didn't you tell him to review more recent movies? 320 00:13:01,616 --> 00:13:04,118 - He says he likes to watch a film once with the sound off 321 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,621 and once with his eyes closed and then wait two years 322 00:13:06,662 --> 00:13:09,791 for his ideas to "simmer like a creole gumbo." 323 00:13:09,832 --> 00:13:11,125 - [groans] 324 00:13:11,167 --> 00:13:13,336 - I-I'm afraid Mr. Samberg's talents 325 00:13:13,378 --> 00:13:17,215 are better suited for skits such as "Dick in a Box," 326 00:13:17,256 --> 00:13:20,802 which I loved, than a major motion picture. 327 00:13:20,843 --> 00:13:24,597 The mind spins to think what a talent like Dick Gregory 328 00:13:24,639 --> 00:13:27,642 could have done with a role like this. 329 00:13:27,683 --> 00:13:32,480 We miss you, Dick. We wish you weren't in a box. 330 00:13:34,148 --> 00:13:37,193 [door opens, keys clacking] 331 00:13:38,694 --> 00:13:41,364 [door closes] 332 00:13:44,992 --> 00:13:46,828 [light jazz music playing] 333 00:13:46,869 --> 00:13:49,330 - [humming along] 334 00:13:49,372 --> 00:13:51,999 You can't have a serious conversation about beauty 335 00:13:52,041 --> 00:13:54,252 without America's foremost expert. 336 00:13:54,293 --> 00:13:56,254 One of the stars of "Queer Eye," 337 00:13:56,295 --> 00:13:58,506 they're a hair guru, a raconteur, 338 00:13:58,548 --> 00:14:02,885 and self-described "Malcolm X of the gay community." 339 00:14:02,927 --> 00:14:05,763 Jonathan Van Ness, welcome to "In the Know." 340 00:14:05,805 --> 00:14:10,351 - Um, "self-described Malcolm X of the gay community"? 341 00:14:10,393 --> 00:14:12,395 - That's what our researcher Fabian said. 342 00:14:12,437 --> 00:14:13,938 Is that incorrect? 343 00:14:13,980 --> 00:14:15,857 - I-I typically go for, like, a diva. 344 00:14:15,898 --> 00:14:17,191 - Huh. 345 00:14:17,233 --> 00:14:19,026 - Give me, like, a Whitney. Give me a Taylor. 346 00:14:19,068 --> 00:14:20,695 Give me a Mariah. - Mm. 347 00:14:20,737 --> 00:14:22,071 I've just never been described 348 00:14:22,113 --> 00:14:24,282 of a Malcolm X of anything before, but I'm obsessed. 349 00:14:24,323 --> 00:14:26,534 - Jonathan, what I love about your show "Queer Eye" 350 00:14:26,576 --> 00:14:28,578 is that you're taking rightful revenge 351 00:14:28,619 --> 00:14:32,498 against heterosexual society by erasing straight identities. 352 00:14:32,540 --> 00:14:34,625 It's sort of a conversion camp in reverse, 353 00:14:34,667 --> 00:14:37,754 a physically imposing five-person platoon 354 00:14:37,795 --> 00:14:39,380 thunders into the hetero's home 355 00:14:39,422 --> 00:14:41,549 and tells them to change everything about themselves, 356 00:14:41,591 --> 00:14:44,385 or they'll never be loved, and I think it's just wonderful. 357 00:14:44,427 --> 00:14:46,929 - Yeah, we actually edit out the boxing matches. 358 00:14:46,971 --> 00:14:48,890 - Mm. - Like, we actually--we also-- 359 00:14:48,931 --> 00:14:50,224 No, we do that. 360 00:14:50,266 --> 00:14:51,851 Like, if they don't conform fast enough, 361 00:14:51,893 --> 00:14:54,729 like, we go off camera, and we just beat the shit out of them, 362 00:14:54,771 --> 00:14:56,355 all five of us. - Mm. 363 00:14:56,397 --> 00:15:00,485 Do you ever show up at one of these dirty "strogres'" homes, 364 00:15:00,526 --> 00:15:03,696 and it's just some dopey pig with a Bowflex 365 00:15:03,738 --> 00:15:05,448 and a deer head on the wall? 366 00:15:05,490 --> 00:15:07,784 Do you ever think, well, I'm sorry, but he's beyond saving, 367 00:15:07,825 --> 00:15:11,079 let's just leave this dopey pig in his filth? 368 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,207 - Um, we have never really had, 369 00:15:14,248 --> 00:15:16,084 like, a "dopey"... 370 00:15:16,125 --> 00:15:17,627 Like, no, like, all of them-- 371 00:15:17,668 --> 00:15:20,254 I think really everyone at their core 372 00:15:20,296 --> 00:15:22,924 is, like, a sweet, good person. 373 00:15:22,965 --> 00:15:26,094 - Mm. And what do you think about the word "strogre"? 374 00:15:26,135 --> 00:15:27,595 Do you think it can catch on? 375 00:15:27,637 --> 00:15:29,389 It's a slur I've been workshopping. 376 00:15:29,430 --> 00:15:33,101 It's a combination of the word "straight" and "ogre." 377 00:15:33,142 --> 00:15:34,644 - It's giving me, like, 378 00:15:34,685 --> 00:15:37,021 something that you would tune a cello with. 379 00:15:37,063 --> 00:15:39,232 - Mm. - It's not giving me a read. 380 00:15:39,273 --> 00:15:41,234 It's giving me forced. 381 00:15:41,275 --> 00:15:43,194 And you know JLo just said-- - Who's that? 382 00:15:43,236 --> 00:15:44,904 - Jennifer Lopez, obviously. 383 00:15:44,946 --> 00:15:47,448 - I'm not familiar. Is she a victim of wage theft? 384 00:15:47,490 --> 00:15:49,033 - Oh, honey. 385 00:15:49,075 --> 00:15:50,743 But she said her third best advice 386 00:15:50,785 --> 00:15:52,787 that she got on this, like, "Vogue" thing I saw 387 00:15:52,829 --> 00:15:54,122 was, like, don't force it. 388 00:15:54,163 --> 00:15:55,415 And "strogre" feels forced. 389 00:15:55,456 --> 00:15:58,584 - Mm. Thank you for your honest feedback. 390 00:15:58,626 --> 00:16:01,754 It hurts like hell, but I'm going to bravely power on. 391 00:16:01,796 --> 00:16:04,298 Jonathan, what is your position 392 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:06,008 on those Rastafarian hats 393 00:16:06,050 --> 00:16:07,760 with the fake dreadlocks attached? 394 00:16:07,802 --> 00:16:11,055 Is that a fashion do or a fashion don't? 395 00:16:11,097 --> 00:16:12,640 - Uh... 396 00:16:12,682 --> 00:16:15,143 - I tried to mix up my style a few years ago. 397 00:16:15,184 --> 00:16:17,019 I wore a bolo tie to work. 398 00:16:17,061 --> 00:16:19,230 I immediately regretted it, but I couldn't take it off 399 00:16:19,272 --> 00:16:21,190 because people would notice I removed it. 400 00:16:21,232 --> 00:16:23,943 [groans] It was a kind of hell. 401 00:16:23,985 --> 00:16:26,821 - Oh, a woman my age shouldn't have to worry about style. 402 00:16:26,863 --> 00:16:28,156 I always tell my hairdresser, 403 00:16:28,197 --> 00:16:31,117 just try to make my head look invisible. 404 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:32,660 - I think you look great. 405 00:16:32,702 --> 00:16:33,911 - Oh. 406 00:16:33,953 --> 00:16:35,705 - Me too. 407 00:16:35,747 --> 00:16:38,833 I'd totally smash-- for real, Barb. 408 00:16:38,875 --> 00:16:41,002 - [stammering] 409 00:16:41,044 --> 00:16:42,211 Thank--thank you. 410 00:16:42,253 --> 00:16:43,921 - You too, Carl. 411 00:16:43,963 --> 00:16:45,423 - Hey. 412 00:16:47,133 --> 00:16:49,719 - I'm going to go check on the gentleman in the bathroom. 413 00:16:49,761 --> 00:16:51,262 - Good idea. 414 00:16:51,304 --> 00:16:54,474 - I'm technically dating a het cis woman also named Lauren, 415 00:16:54,515 --> 00:16:56,517 but we don't have penetrative sex 416 00:16:56,559 --> 00:16:58,352 because I do find it problematic. 417 00:16:58,394 --> 00:17:00,313 But we do-- - That's called sideways. 418 00:17:00,354 --> 00:17:01,939 - What's sideways? 419 00:17:01,981 --> 00:17:04,067 - When you, like, don't want to do penetrative sex 420 00:17:04,108 --> 00:17:06,069 in your booty holes or vaginas. 421 00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:07,361 - Well, we do engage 422 00:17:07,403 --> 00:17:09,447 in what I like to call "rough spooning." 423 00:17:09,489 --> 00:17:11,532 And she outweighs me by about 50 pounds, 424 00:17:11,574 --> 00:17:13,201 so we have a pretty complicated 425 00:17:13,242 --> 00:17:14,535 sexual power dynamic. 426 00:17:14,577 --> 00:17:16,829 She throws me around like a little bag of sand. 427 00:17:16,871 --> 00:17:18,706 - I love that. It's hot. 428 00:17:18,748 --> 00:17:22,210 - I like to think of myself as a sapiosexual. 429 00:17:22,251 --> 00:17:24,170 I'm sexually attracted to ideas. 430 00:17:24,212 --> 00:17:26,255 Do you think that that should be given 431 00:17:26,297 --> 00:17:28,883 more space in the conversation, 432 00:17:28,925 --> 00:17:31,511 specifically ours that we're having right now? 433 00:17:31,552 --> 00:17:33,137 - Yeah, I think people absolutely-- 434 00:17:33,179 --> 00:17:34,847 I think that's absolutely a thing. 435 00:17:34,889 --> 00:17:38,559 - I once got an erection from reading Plato's "The Cave." 436 00:17:38,601 --> 00:17:41,396 - [scoffs] Do you have a therapist? 437 00:17:45,566 --> 00:17:47,485 - Oh, shit, is that a skunk? 438 00:17:47,527 --> 00:17:49,987 - You can't look at someone's pet cam 439 00:17:50,029 --> 00:17:52,573 without the consent of the caregiver and the pet. 440 00:17:52,615 --> 00:17:54,492 - [chuckles] That's your pet? 441 00:17:54,534 --> 00:17:56,744 Awesome. 442 00:17:56,786 --> 00:17:58,204 - Her name is Bertie. 443 00:17:58,246 --> 00:18:00,081 I rescued her from the streets. 444 00:18:00,123 --> 00:18:02,458 She was literally eating trash. 445 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:04,669 She's my chosen family. 446 00:18:04,711 --> 00:18:07,004 - Does giving someone's life a makeover 447 00:18:07,046 --> 00:18:09,757 sometimes work against the goal of self-acceptance. 448 00:18:09,799 --> 00:18:12,301 How do you marry those two together? 449 00:18:12,343 --> 00:18:14,554 - Yeah, I think-- That's a good question. 450 00:18:14,595 --> 00:18:17,598 I don't think that those are, like, binary. 451 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,643 Um, I think that there's ways for us to, like, explore-- 452 00:18:20,685 --> 00:18:21,936 - Aah. 453 00:18:21,978 --> 00:18:23,938 Have you lost your God-fearing Midwestern mind? 454 00:18:23,980 --> 00:18:25,690 I am mid-interview. 455 00:18:25,732 --> 00:18:27,316 - [whispering] I'm sorry, Lauren. 456 00:18:27,358 --> 00:18:29,610 I'm just worried about our unhoused friend. 457 00:18:29,652 --> 00:18:32,113 He's not responding when I knock. 458 00:18:32,155 --> 00:18:33,614 He--he could be sick. 459 00:18:33,656 --> 00:18:35,658 - And I suppose you get to decide who's sick, 460 00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:36,993 Nurse Ratchet. 461 00:18:37,034 --> 00:18:39,287 - Oh, Ken Kesey once showed me an early draft 462 00:18:39,328 --> 00:18:41,247 of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," 463 00:18:41,289 --> 00:18:42,623 when it was still called 464 00:18:42,665 --> 00:18:45,877 "Untitled Mental Hospital Comedy." 465 00:18:45,918 --> 00:18:48,212 [keys jingling] 466 00:18:48,254 --> 00:18:50,214 - My God. 467 00:18:50,256 --> 00:18:53,134 You called in your goons. - That's Terry. 468 00:18:53,176 --> 00:18:54,802 He's the maintenance supervisor. 469 00:18:54,844 --> 00:18:57,472 He's got a bathroom key, and he knows CPR. 470 00:18:57,513 --> 00:19:00,391 - [scoffs] What's next--the police? 471 00:19:00,433 --> 00:19:03,352 You want to tear-gas this man? - Well, no, I-- 472 00:19:03,394 --> 00:19:05,897 - Why do the police need a tank, Barb? 473 00:19:05,938 --> 00:19:07,607 Tell me. - I-I don't know. 474 00:19:07,648 --> 00:19:10,068 - Answer her question, Barb. Why do the police need a tank? 475 00:19:10,109 --> 00:19:11,611 - Answer my question, Barb. - I don't know. 476 00:19:11,652 --> 00:19:13,196 - You want to tear-gas this man? 477 00:19:13,237 --> 00:19:14,197 - Oh, no. No. - With a tank? 478 00:19:14,238 --> 00:19:15,615 - You want a tank full of tear gas? 479 00:19:15,656 --> 00:19:17,200 - No. - She's foaming at the mouth. 480 00:19:17,241 --> 00:19:18,701 - Let me be absolutely clear. 481 00:19:18,743 --> 00:19:21,704 No one will disturb that precious unhoused man. 482 00:19:21,746 --> 00:19:25,166 And if they do, I will personally call them out 483 00:19:25,208 --> 00:19:28,503 live on air in front of millions. 484 00:19:28,544 --> 00:19:30,338 - We average 30,000 listeners. 485 00:19:30,380 --> 00:19:32,673 - We're done here. 486 00:19:32,715 --> 00:19:35,843 - Tell me what democracy looks like. 487 00:19:35,885 --> 00:19:38,763 - This is what democracy looks like. 488 00:19:41,766 --> 00:19:44,268 - ...be a matter of, like, not accepting yourself. 489 00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:47,105 I think it's really more of a matter of, like, exploration 490 00:19:47,146 --> 00:19:50,191 and finding what makes you feel the most embodied. 491 00:19:50,233 --> 00:19:52,360 - Mm. I'm sorry. I missed most of that. 492 00:19:52,402 --> 00:19:54,695 I was saving a man's life. 493 00:19:54,737 --> 00:19:56,656 - Who--Just now? 494 00:19:56,697 --> 00:19:57,865 - Yeah. 495 00:19:57,907 --> 00:20:00,576 There's an unhoused man who is currently-- 496 00:20:00,618 --> 00:20:02,537 - A person who's experiencing homelessness? 497 00:20:02,578 --> 00:20:05,415 - Fucking--I mean, that's the least of their-- 498 00:20:05,456 --> 00:20:08,793 [sighs, slurps] I have one final question. 499 00:20:08,835 --> 00:20:09,919 - Okay. 500 00:20:09,961 --> 00:20:12,463 - Is being a body-positivity icon-- 501 00:20:12,505 --> 00:20:14,590 is it a bit like being a climate-change denier, 502 00:20:14,632 --> 00:20:17,051 in--in that you have to ignore your problem areas 503 00:20:17,093 --> 00:20:19,887 much like America ignores ours? 504 00:20:19,929 --> 00:20:24,267 - No, because I think that the idea of the problem area 505 00:20:24,308 --> 00:20:26,060 is, like, a figment of our imagination. 506 00:20:26,102 --> 00:20:27,437 Like, there is no such thing. 507 00:20:27,478 --> 00:20:30,356 - What if you have hyperintense localized eczema 508 00:20:30,398 --> 00:20:31,774 on your lower back? 509 00:20:31,816 --> 00:20:35,403 - I get it, and you're still gorgeous and fuckable. 510 00:20:35,445 --> 00:20:37,071 - Did you just say I was fuckable? 511 00:20:37,113 --> 00:20:38,906 - Everyone is gorgeous and fuckable. 512 00:20:38,948 --> 00:20:41,409 As long as you're, like, consenting adults, honey... 513 00:20:41,451 --> 00:20:43,244 [snaps fingers] You're fuckable. 514 00:20:43,286 --> 00:20:44,787 - And that, my dear friend, 515 00:20:44,829 --> 00:20:48,082 is why you're the Malcolm X of the gay community. 516 00:20:48,124 --> 00:20:49,667 - Thank you. 517 00:20:49,709 --> 00:20:51,669 - And that is our show. 518 00:20:51,711 --> 00:20:55,298 In conclusion, I'd like to take a moment of silence. 519 00:20:55,339 --> 00:20:56,758 There are unhoused people 520 00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:59,594 in bathrooms all over this country. 521 00:20:59,635 --> 00:21:02,847 Let's take a pause to listen to them. 522 00:21:04,891 --> 00:21:07,643 Not literal-- not literally, obviously. 523 00:21:07,685 --> 00:21:09,812 They deserve privacy in the bathroom. 524 00:21:15,443 --> 00:21:18,196 [laughing] And that, my dear friends, 525 00:21:18,237 --> 00:21:19,489 is the ball game. 526 00:21:19,530 --> 00:21:21,574 Chase, my kombucha, please. 527 00:21:21,616 --> 00:21:24,619 - Oh, shit, pretty sure I gave the last one to Kevin. 528 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:26,746 - Who's Kevin? - Dude in the bathroom. 529 00:21:26,788 --> 00:21:28,539 You want some of my power jerky, though? 530 00:21:28,581 --> 00:21:29,749 It's a pork byproduct 531 00:21:29,791 --> 00:21:31,793 dusted with a very gentle strain of cocaine. 532 00:21:31,834 --> 00:21:35,671 - Chase, my post-show kombucha isn't just a treat. 533 00:21:35,713 --> 00:21:37,757 It's a prescription-strength blend 534 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:39,926 of yeast and bacteria cultures. 535 00:21:39,967 --> 00:21:41,511 - The only cultures you seem to respect. 536 00:21:41,552 --> 00:21:43,262 - This is terrible. 537 00:21:43,304 --> 00:21:45,014 - Are you okay, Lauren? 538 00:21:45,056 --> 00:21:48,101 - My bowels are a delicately constructed Swiss clock, 539 00:21:48,142 --> 00:21:52,522 and the smallest irregularity can trigger the end of time. 540 00:21:52,563 --> 00:21:54,857 Everyone out of the way. I need to get to the bathroom. 541 00:21:54,899 --> 00:21:56,776 - The bathroom's occupied, remember? 542 00:21:56,818 --> 00:21:59,570 - Good God, the unhoused man. 543 00:21:59,612 --> 00:22:01,572 - The person currently without-- 544 00:22:01,614 --> 00:22:03,616 - I don't have time! 545 00:22:03,658 --> 00:22:06,536 [stomach gurgles] [gasps] Oh, no. 546 00:22:06,577 --> 00:22:09,664 Oh. [groaning] 547 00:22:11,582 --> 00:22:13,793 Chase, I'm panicking. 548 00:22:13,835 --> 00:22:16,212 You're going to have to carry me to the Starbucks. 549 00:22:16,254 --> 00:22:19,132 I-I can't walk and focus on not going to the restroom 550 00:22:19,173 --> 00:22:20,800 in my pants at the same time. 551 00:22:20,842 --> 00:22:21,801 - No way, my guy. 552 00:22:21,843 --> 00:22:23,469 I'm not carrying you eight blocks 553 00:22:23,511 --> 00:22:24,929 while you shit your pants. 554 00:22:24,971 --> 00:22:27,014 - You want Terry to ask the homeless guy to leave? 555 00:22:27,056 --> 00:22:28,349 - No, I'm fine. 556 00:22:28,391 --> 00:22:30,727 It's as much his bathroom as it is mine. 557 00:22:30,768 --> 00:22:32,687 [groans] 558 00:22:36,190 --> 00:22:38,359 [grunts] 559 00:22:40,862 --> 00:22:45,283 Could--could I have the studio, please? 560 00:22:45,324 --> 00:22:46,826 - [gasps] - Gross. 561 00:22:46,868 --> 00:22:49,120 - God damn it, that's my equipment closet. 562 00:22:51,414 --> 00:22:53,916 I got to walk to the damn Starbucks. 563 00:22:59,505 --> 00:23:01,090 - Knock, knock. 564 00:23:01,132 --> 00:23:03,176 Lauren, it's Barb. 565 00:23:03,217 --> 00:23:06,846 I brought you some essentials. 566 00:23:06,888 --> 00:23:09,223 If you need anything else, I'll be-- 567 00:23:09,265 --> 00:23:12,894 - Get out of here! Get out of here! 568 00:23:14,645 --> 00:23:17,106 Oh, good God! 569 00:23:20,068 --> 00:23:22,820 - Room for one more? - [shouts] Barb! 570 00:23:27,325 --> 00:23:30,369 [toothbrush scratching] - [spits] 571 00:23:38,044 --> 00:23:40,171 - I'm reading this fascinating-- 572 00:23:40,213 --> 00:23:41,756 - Shut up! 573 00:23:44,425 --> 00:23:45,927 [distant dog barking] 574 00:23:45,968 --> 00:23:47,762 - Mm. 575 00:23:47,804 --> 00:23:50,348 Ah. Ooh. 576 00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:53,142 Yes, ouch. 577 00:23:53,184 --> 00:23:56,771 Mm, interesting. 578 00:23:56,813 --> 00:23:58,940 Mm, yes. 579 00:23:58,981 --> 00:24:00,691 Lauren! 580 00:24:00,733 --> 00:24:03,569 [upbeat music playing on headphones] 581 00:24:03,611 --> 00:24:05,988 * * 582 00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,408 I hate that guy. 583 00:24:10,326 --> 00:24:14,205 [mop bucket scraping on floor] 584 00:24:14,247 --> 00:24:17,208 [water splashing] 585 00:24:17,250 --> 00:24:20,294 * * 586 00:24:20,336 --> 00:24:23,256 [mop slaps floor, scraping] 587 00:24:23,297 --> 00:24:30,346 * * 588 00:24:30,388 --> 00:24:32,473 [mop bucket scraping on floor] 589 00:24:32,515 --> 00:24:36,436 * *