1 00:00:01,917 --> 00:00:04,250 (tense music) 2 00:00:10,958 --> 00:00:12,708 - [Producer] All right. 3 00:00:12,708 --> 00:00:15,250 (tense music) 4 00:00:17,458 --> 00:00:18,625 - Pat your head. 5 00:00:20,042 --> 00:00:21,417 - [Interviewer] So are you ready? 6 00:00:21,417 --> 00:00:23,708 - [Producer] All right, I think we're good. 7 00:00:23,708 --> 00:00:26,000 (tense music) 8 00:00:27,042 --> 00:00:29,042 - He's going to be living there. 9 00:00:29,042 --> 00:00:30,792 It's going to be a lot of personal 10 00:00:30,792 --> 00:00:33,042 and private situations going on. 11 00:00:33,042 --> 00:00:34,750 (cell door slams) 12 00:00:34,750 --> 00:00:37,250 (prison buzzer blares) 13 00:00:37,250 --> 00:00:39,750 - [Inmate] I have a fairly extensive rap sheet. 14 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:42,542 - [Inmate] Second degree burglary, trespass, and theft. 15 00:00:57,875 --> 00:01:00,833 - [Jim] When he gets out, he said he needs a place to stay 16 00:01:00,833 --> 00:01:02,375 and he doesn't have another option. 17 00:01:02,375 --> 00:01:04,833 - [David] Lots of people coming out of prison need housing 18 00:01:04,833 --> 00:01:08,125 and I'm doing this because I wanna change the system. 19 00:01:08,125 --> 00:01:10,542 - [Hostess] I'm hoping Jennifer can help me out 20 00:01:10,542 --> 00:01:14,000 around the house and be a good companion for me. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,750 - [Hostess] He's going to be moving in with me 22 00:01:15,750 --> 00:01:17,375 because I need the money. 23 00:01:17,375 --> 00:01:20,333 - I don't think anybody wanted to take him in at this point. 24 00:01:20,333 --> 00:01:25,458 - Somebody has to take the risk, and we'll take the risk. 25 00:01:25,458 --> 00:01:27,500 (tense music) 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 - Free man. - Here we go. 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,208 - It's nice to see you. 28 00:01:32,208 --> 00:01:34,542 - Nice to see you. Nice to meet you too. 29 00:01:34,542 --> 00:01:36,875 (tense music) 30 00:01:36,875 --> 00:01:39,375 - (gasps) Oh my god! 31 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:42,000 - I'm free. (both laugh) 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,708 - This will be your room. 33 00:01:43,708 --> 00:01:45,042 - I like it. 34 00:01:45,042 --> 00:01:47,917 - Nice to meet ya. - (laughs) Welcome home. 35 00:01:47,917 --> 00:01:49,167 - Appreciate it, thank you. 36 00:01:51,625 --> 00:01:53,417 - I don't actually know. 37 00:01:53,417 --> 00:01:55,708 - We don't know what's going on. 38 00:01:55,708 --> 00:01:57,708 - They did say that they found some needles 39 00:01:57,708 --> 00:01:59,208 and some white powder. 40 00:01:59,208 --> 00:02:01,500 - I'm just hoping that it's gonna work out. 41 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:03,708 But you never know what somebody's gonna do. 42 00:02:03,708 --> 00:02:05,917 I'm sorry, you're gonna have to go though, 43 00:02:05,917 --> 00:02:09,125 and hopefully you'll want better for yourself after this. 44 00:02:09,125 --> 00:02:11,167 I am at the end of my rope with you. 45 00:02:12,708 --> 00:02:14,125 - That's not gonna happen. 46 00:02:14,125 --> 00:02:15,375 - Oh, you're bugging. 47 00:02:15,375 --> 00:02:16,833 - Well, I don't have to argue about it anymore. 48 00:02:16,833 --> 00:02:18,375 Bye-Bye. Bye-Bye, bitch. 49 00:02:19,625 --> 00:02:20,583 (door slams) 50 00:02:20,583 --> 00:02:23,458 - I have never cried so much before. 51 00:02:23,458 --> 00:02:26,250 - Come back here again, I'll beat your (bleep) ass. 52 00:02:26,250 --> 00:02:28,042 - Let me know when you wanna move on with this interview. 53 00:02:28,042 --> 00:02:30,167 - Get your things and leave. 54 00:02:30,167 --> 00:02:32,250 Police are on their way. 55 00:02:32,250 --> 00:02:34,250 He thinks he can do anything 56 00:02:34,250 --> 00:02:35,875 and that's not how it's gonna go. 57 00:02:35,875 --> 00:02:37,250 (sirens blare) 58 00:02:39,292 --> 00:02:40,750 (cell door slamming) 59 00:02:43,542 --> 00:02:45,667 (tense music) 60 00:02:48,042 --> 00:02:49,542 - [Vada] Analisa. 61 00:02:49,542 --> 00:02:50,667 - What? 62 00:02:50,667 --> 00:02:53,958 - We got guests coming. What you in there doing? 63 00:02:53,958 --> 00:02:56,042 - Puttin' on my makeup. 64 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:58,792 - All right. The fire's burning. 65 00:02:58,792 --> 00:03:00,042 - I'm ready. 66 00:03:00,042 --> 00:03:01,292 - 'Bout time. 67 00:03:02,375 --> 00:03:04,333 - I'm Analisa and I'm 52. 68 00:03:04,333 --> 00:03:06,750 - I'm Vada and I'm 58. 69 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:10,417 Analisa and I met at a foster care training. 70 00:03:11,708 --> 00:03:12,958 - No, we didn't. 71 00:03:12,958 --> 00:03:14,542 - We didn't? - No. 72 00:03:14,542 --> 00:03:18,000 I was introduced to Vada through a mutual friend of ours. 73 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,125 - And that was 2000 and what, 2002? 74 00:03:21,125 --> 00:03:22,833 - No. - When was that? 75 00:03:22,833 --> 00:03:24,208 - 1999. 76 00:03:24,208 --> 00:03:25,667 - Oh, my bad. 77 00:03:26,708 --> 00:03:29,833 And we are bringing an inmate straight outta prison 78 00:03:29,833 --> 00:03:31,833 into our home. 79 00:03:31,833 --> 00:03:32,833 Are you ready? 80 00:03:33,917 --> 00:03:35,708 - Yes, I'm ready. 81 00:03:35,708 --> 00:03:37,833 (tense music) 82 00:04:13,042 --> 00:04:15,208 (tense music) 83 00:04:15,208 --> 00:04:18,000 - Mark has an uncle named Peewee that we love. 84 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,208 And Peewee had a conversation with Vada some time ago 85 00:04:21,208 --> 00:04:22,792 before he passed. 86 00:04:22,792 --> 00:04:26,125 He asked Vada, "If anything ever happened to me, 87 00:04:26,125 --> 00:04:28,375 will you please take care of my family?" 88 00:04:28,375 --> 00:04:30,833 And we wanna honor that request. 89 00:04:30,833 --> 00:04:34,000 So that's why I'm allowing a prisoner 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,208 to come stay in my house. 91 00:04:36,208 --> 00:04:37,542 Deahja. 92 00:04:37,542 --> 00:04:38,875 - What? 93 00:04:38,875 --> 00:04:40,583 - Hi. How are you? 94 00:04:41,625 --> 00:04:42,875 - Annoyed. 95 00:04:42,875 --> 00:04:45,667 - Deahja's my daughter from a previous relationship. 96 00:04:45,667 --> 00:04:47,875 Vada and I have been together since she was what, 97 00:04:47,875 --> 00:04:49,042 six years old. 98 00:04:49,042 --> 00:04:50,333 - Yeah. 99 00:04:51,417 --> 00:04:53,625 Are you excited to go get this young man? 100 00:04:54,708 --> 00:04:56,000 - No. No, I'm not. 101 00:04:57,375 --> 00:04:59,542 What's his name? - His name is Mark. 102 00:04:59,542 --> 00:05:01,583 - I have a lot of concerns. - Why? 103 00:05:01,583 --> 00:05:05,542 - Because who's to know that he's a re-offender? 104 00:05:06,750 --> 00:05:07,750 - Well... 105 00:05:07,750 --> 00:05:09,583 - Well, that's the risk that we take. 106 00:05:10,542 --> 00:05:12,458 - She's gonna be the bad cop. 107 00:05:12,458 --> 00:05:15,167 - I'm really not the one to play with. 108 00:05:15,167 --> 00:05:20,625 If Mark wants to try me, you guys will see who Analisa is. 109 00:05:22,875 --> 00:05:24,667 Am I lying? 110 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:27,542 - Yeah, you a pretty dangerous person. 111 00:05:30,375 --> 00:05:32,625 - Hey, hey, hey everybody. Hey. 112 00:05:32,625 --> 00:05:35,375 - One of my good friends, Rose is gonna be here, 113 00:05:35,375 --> 00:05:37,667 and DJ, who's my godson. 114 00:05:37,667 --> 00:05:40,542 And we're gonna talk about Mark's arrival. 115 00:05:40,542 --> 00:05:42,333 - Man, I still think it's kinda odd 116 00:05:42,333 --> 00:05:44,250 y'all letting some random prisoner in your house. 117 00:05:44,250 --> 00:05:45,833 What's his charges? 118 00:05:45,833 --> 00:05:46,958 - Robbery. 119 00:05:48,417 --> 00:05:50,292 - That's great. That's great, Miss Analisa. 120 00:05:50,292 --> 00:05:52,458 You just inviting criminals in. 121 00:05:57,667 --> 00:06:00,292 - My goal is to try to help him 122 00:06:00,292 --> 00:06:02,583 try not to commit those crimes again. 123 00:06:02,583 --> 00:06:04,542 - My family is everything 124 00:06:04,542 --> 00:06:07,708 and when it comes to my family, I don't play. 125 00:06:07,708 --> 00:06:12,583 And I don't want him bringing his past to the house. 126 00:06:12,583 --> 00:06:14,667 - I mean, I know he needs help. - Yeah. 127 00:06:14,667 --> 00:06:16,583 - Granted, everybody need help, right? 128 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:17,542 - Yeah. 129 00:06:17,542 --> 00:06:20,000 Hello? Mark, how are you doing? 130 00:06:22,083 --> 00:06:23,792 - Are you ready to get out? 131 00:06:25,333 --> 00:06:28,167 - You wanna talk to Vada? Here's Vada. 132 00:06:28,167 --> 00:06:29,417 - How you doing, sir? 133 00:06:32,250 --> 00:06:33,833 - I'm looking forward to seeing you 134 00:06:33,833 --> 00:06:37,375 and I'm looking forward to you being here as well. 135 00:06:37,375 --> 00:06:38,833 - Deahja, do you have something you wanna ask- 136 00:06:38,833 --> 00:06:40,667 - I do. Can I get the phone please? 137 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:42,125 - Can you just ask him, please? 138 00:06:42,125 --> 00:06:44,875 - Oh, here comes somebody else who wanna talk to you. 139 00:06:44,875 --> 00:06:46,833 (tense music) 140 00:06:46,833 --> 00:06:47,833 - Hi, Mark. 141 00:06:50,292 --> 00:06:51,833 - This is Deahja. How are you? 142 00:06:54,958 --> 00:06:56,125 - I'm doing well. 143 00:06:59,417 --> 00:07:01,792 - Honestly, I don't know you. 144 00:07:05,167 --> 00:07:07,583 - I'm 5'9". How tall are you? 145 00:07:13,708 --> 00:07:15,542 (laughing) 146 00:07:15,542 --> 00:07:18,083 - [Analisa] There's no plugs and hookups over here. 147 00:07:18,083 --> 00:07:19,500 - Mark flirting with me, 148 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:21,250 it kinda caught me off guard, to be honest, 149 00:07:21,250 --> 00:07:24,833 because I wouldn't think that he would just come off rip, 150 00:07:24,833 --> 00:07:28,542 "Hey, how you doing? How tall are you? What's your name?" 151 00:07:28,542 --> 00:07:30,625 So we gonna stop there. - [Analisa] Yeah, you're not- 152 00:07:30,625 --> 00:07:32,083 - In the name of Jesus. 153 00:07:32,083 --> 00:07:33,542 - There you go. - All right. 154 00:07:36,792 --> 00:07:39,292 - It don't seem like it's not unnatural 155 00:07:39,292 --> 00:07:41,042 because, man, he in prison, 156 00:07:41,042 --> 00:07:43,458 and you hear a sweet voice over the phone, 157 00:07:43,458 --> 00:07:45,375 you gonna immediately respond to it. 158 00:07:45,375 --> 00:07:47,917 Me personally, I don't see a problem with it. 159 00:07:49,333 --> 00:07:51,583 - I see a problem with it. 160 00:07:51,583 --> 00:07:55,333 That is something that I'm going to monitor myself. 161 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:57,167 I'm, mm-hmm. 162 00:07:59,250 --> 00:08:00,583 Hey, Mark. 163 00:08:02,292 --> 00:08:03,875 - Well, I just wanted to let you know 164 00:08:03,875 --> 00:08:06,500 that I'm excited to meet you at the prison. 165 00:08:07,542 --> 00:08:10,500 - Okay. Bye-Bye. (phone beeps) 166 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:11,958 So, what do you think? 167 00:08:15,500 --> 00:08:17,875 - It's going to be a disaster. 168 00:08:17,875 --> 00:08:20,042 (dramatic music) 169 00:08:22,208 --> 00:08:24,208 (tense music) 170 00:08:28,917 --> 00:08:31,083 (David hums) 171 00:08:32,375 --> 00:08:33,542 (sighs) 172 00:08:33,542 --> 00:08:35,750 - I'm David, I'm 37 years old. 173 00:08:37,042 --> 00:08:39,542 I'm a high school teacher. I teach social studies. 174 00:08:39,542 --> 00:08:42,000 It's, uh, it's Minnesota interesting. 175 00:08:43,042 --> 00:08:45,708 - People are really passive-aggressive in Minnesota 176 00:08:45,708 --> 00:08:47,083 and so if they wanna say something bad, 177 00:08:47,083 --> 00:08:48,542 but they don't wanna say anything bad, 178 00:08:48,542 --> 00:08:50,042 they just say it's interesting. 179 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:53,875 - Exactly. (laughs) 180 00:08:54,875 --> 00:08:56,542 So, today is the first day of summer, 181 00:08:56,542 --> 00:08:58,458 which means I don't have to teach tomorrow 182 00:08:58,458 --> 00:08:59,917 and I can't wait 183 00:08:59,917 --> 00:09:02,125 because I'm getting ready to bring someone from prison 184 00:09:02,125 --> 00:09:03,458 to live here in my home. 185 00:09:03,458 --> 00:09:05,750 (tense music) 186 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,417 (knocking) 187 00:09:39,417 --> 00:09:41,500 - [Cynthia] David, hi! 188 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:43,708 - Hey, Cynthia. - [Cynthia] How you doing? 189 00:09:43,708 --> 00:09:45,000 - I'm doing good. 190 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,708 - [Cynthia] Ooh, the place looks so nice. 191 00:09:46,708 --> 00:09:48,583 - Thanks. Hello. 192 00:09:48,583 --> 00:09:50,500 - Hi. - How's it going? 193 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:52,125 - Hi, honey. - Hey. 194 00:09:52,125 --> 00:09:54,042 Most of my immediate family is still in Ann Arbor, Michigan 195 00:09:54,042 --> 00:09:55,167 where I grew up, 196 00:09:55,167 --> 00:09:57,792 so Cynthia's like a Minneapolis mom to me. 197 00:09:57,792 --> 00:09:59,875 - [Cynthia] Your tomatoes look awesome. 198 00:09:59,875 --> 00:10:01,667 - I met Cynthia eight years ago. 199 00:10:01,667 --> 00:10:05,458 She was my mentor teacher my first year teaching. 200 00:10:05,458 --> 00:10:08,625 Do you remember how I told you someone might be staying here? 201 00:10:08,625 --> 00:10:10,125 - Yes, yes. 202 00:10:10,125 --> 00:10:12,417 - Yeah, so, it's gonna happen, actually. 203 00:10:12,417 --> 00:10:13,833 - Uh-huh. 204 00:10:13,833 --> 00:10:15,292 - You know, I've been working with people in prison 205 00:10:15,292 --> 00:10:16,542 a long time. 206 00:10:16,542 --> 00:10:17,875 In this case, Aaron, I've been talking to him 207 00:10:17,875 --> 00:10:20,042 for a couple years now, and he gets out tomorrow, 208 00:10:20,042 --> 00:10:21,625 and yeah, I mean, the number one thing 209 00:10:21,625 --> 00:10:23,000 for people coming outta prison is housing. 210 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,458 Like, it's just-- - Right. 211 00:10:24,458 --> 00:10:26,083 - It's impossible. 212 00:10:26,083 --> 00:10:28,292 I'm doing this because I wanna change the system. 213 00:10:28,292 --> 00:10:30,917 Lots of people coming out of prison need housing. 214 00:10:30,917 --> 00:10:34,542 I'm excited to see if this is a way that I can contribute 215 00:10:34,542 --> 00:10:36,500 in that way on a regular basis. 216 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:39,250 - What were his original charges? 217 00:10:39,250 --> 00:10:40,542 - Well, actually, it's funny, 218 00:10:40,542 --> 00:10:41,875 I don't really know that much about Aaron. 219 00:10:41,875 --> 00:10:43,042 - [Cynthia] Huh, right. 220 00:10:43,042 --> 00:10:45,042 - He's like a voice on the phone. 221 00:10:45,042 --> 00:10:47,583 He seems like a caring person. You know what I mean? 222 00:10:47,583 --> 00:10:48,750 - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 223 00:10:52,875 --> 00:10:57,292 - I know his... I don't actually know. (laughs) 224 00:10:58,792 --> 00:11:00,542 I don't actually know. 225 00:11:00,542 --> 00:11:02,083 - I love you, David. (David laughs) 226 00:11:02,083 --> 00:11:03,542 I don't know what his charges are. 227 00:11:03,542 --> 00:11:04,792 I don't know, you know-- 228 00:11:04,792 --> 00:11:06,375 - I think it was meth. 229 00:11:06,375 --> 00:11:08,042 - Okay, that's messed up, 230 00:11:08,042 --> 00:11:11,417 because that's so available right here. 231 00:11:11,417 --> 00:11:12,875 There's always a fear with David 232 00:11:12,875 --> 00:11:14,875 that he's bitten off more than he can chew, 233 00:11:14,875 --> 00:11:17,458 because he's incredibly idealistic. 234 00:11:17,458 --> 00:11:20,083 This is kinda like, this feels kinda loosey goosey, 235 00:11:20,083 --> 00:11:21,208 you know? 236 00:11:21,208 --> 00:11:23,583 Is there like, some kind of backup plan, you know? 237 00:11:23,583 --> 00:11:26,583 - Hopefully. (laughs) - Yeah, right. 238 00:11:26,583 --> 00:11:28,792 You know, David's idealism is a superpower, 239 00:11:28,792 --> 00:11:30,833 but it could backfire on him 240 00:11:30,833 --> 00:11:32,958 in a kind of rather dramatic fashion. 241 00:11:32,958 --> 00:11:35,333 Especially if you're talking about meth, 242 00:11:35,333 --> 00:11:38,708 then you're talking about a violent subculture 243 00:11:38,708 --> 00:11:41,333 that could come into his home. 244 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:43,708 For me, that's the worst thing that I see. 245 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:46,042 But I want you to keep your eyes open. 246 00:11:46,042 --> 00:11:47,417 - Yeah. 247 00:11:47,417 --> 00:11:49,375 We'll have to cross roads when we come to 'em, you know? 248 00:11:49,375 --> 00:11:50,667 - Right. 249 00:11:50,667 --> 00:11:52,417 - Best outcome with Aaron is that he comes out 250 00:11:52,417 --> 00:11:54,000 and gets on his dream horse 251 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,875 and figures out where he wants to go and we become friends. 252 00:11:56,875 --> 00:11:59,125 Worst case, doesn't work well, we have to figure out 253 00:11:59,125 --> 00:12:01,208 how to get out of a bad situation. 254 00:12:01,208 --> 00:12:02,375 We'll see what happens. 255 00:12:02,375 --> 00:12:04,667 (tense music) 256 00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:10,917 (tense music) 257 00:12:13,542 --> 00:12:15,292 - [Jim] Amen. - [Group] Amen. 258 00:12:15,292 --> 00:12:17,167 (group applauds) 259 00:12:17,167 --> 00:12:18,167 - Yes. 260 00:12:18,167 --> 00:12:20,125 Anybody else being blessed tonight? 261 00:12:20,125 --> 00:12:21,583 (group cheers) 262 00:12:21,583 --> 00:12:24,083 Anybody else in here feeling a little something special 263 00:12:24,083 --> 00:12:26,250 from the Lord? (group cheers) 264 00:12:26,250 --> 00:12:29,500 Oh, Lord, I've got God bumps going down my arms right now. 265 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:31,083 - Amen. - Praise God. 266 00:12:32,083 --> 00:12:35,042 (fire crackles) (tense music) 267 00:12:35,042 --> 00:12:38,167 - My name's Jim. I'm 54 years old and I'm a pastor. 268 00:12:38,167 --> 00:12:40,458 - My name is Marisol and I'm 47 years old 269 00:12:40,458 --> 00:12:42,125 and I'm also a pastor. 270 00:12:44,542 --> 00:12:47,958 - When we met, this chick right here 271 00:12:47,958 --> 00:12:50,708 would watch these encouragement videos 272 00:12:50,708 --> 00:12:55,875 that I would do every morning, but she'd never say anything. 273 00:12:55,875 --> 00:13:00,375 "Great job," or "Keep up the good work." Nothing. 274 00:13:00,375 --> 00:13:03,500 All she would do is get on there and stalk me. 275 00:13:03,500 --> 00:13:05,375 (Marisol laughs) 276 00:13:07,458 --> 00:13:09,417 And I fell in love with her. 277 00:13:11,042 --> 00:13:12,542 - Huh? - Better be. 278 00:13:12,542 --> 00:13:14,708 (Marisol laughs) 279 00:13:14,708 --> 00:13:17,417 Seven and a half years ago, I was hating God, 280 00:13:17,417 --> 00:13:18,958 and now look what he's doing. 281 00:13:18,958 --> 00:13:22,208 I can't do nothing but just say, I'm a straight Jesus freak. 282 00:13:22,208 --> 00:13:24,000 Marisol and I are the founders 283 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,125 of Rock House Ministries and programs. 284 00:13:26,125 --> 00:13:29,542 We have an incredible recovery program here. 285 00:13:29,542 --> 00:13:33,542 Our ministry is designed to be able to help any person 286 00:13:33,542 --> 00:13:35,750 that wants a clean and sober life. 287 00:13:35,750 --> 00:13:37,542 We know that lives are being changed. 288 00:13:37,542 --> 00:13:39,708 (group applauds) 289 00:13:39,708 --> 00:13:42,250 Our ministry accepts people off the streets. 290 00:13:42,250 --> 00:13:45,417 Our ministry accepts people that just give us a call 291 00:13:45,417 --> 00:13:47,458 and say they need some help. 292 00:13:47,458 --> 00:13:50,208 And that's how we met Mickey. 293 00:13:51,458 --> 00:13:53,208 When we messaged back and forth, 294 00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:55,042 he said he needed a place to stay 295 00:13:55,042 --> 00:13:57,292 and he doesn't have another option. 296 00:13:57,292 --> 00:14:01,042 So we're not just accepting someone into our ministry, 297 00:14:01,042 --> 00:14:04,000 we're accepting someone straight outta jail into our home. 298 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,833 - For the first time. 299 00:14:05,833 --> 00:14:08,042 - For the very first time. 300 00:14:08,042 --> 00:14:10,208 - [Operator] This call is from a correction facility 301 00:14:10,208 --> 00:14:12,708 and is subject to monitoring and recording. 302 00:14:12,708 --> 00:14:15,083 (tense music) 303 00:14:46,458 --> 00:14:51,417 - I have accepted an individual into this program. 304 00:14:51,417 --> 00:14:54,208 His name is Mickey. - [Group] Amen. 305 00:14:54,208 --> 00:14:56,958 - Okay? But I'm doing something different. 306 00:14:56,958 --> 00:14:58,750 This gentleman is moving directly into 307 00:14:58,750 --> 00:15:00,375 mine and Mari's house. 308 00:15:00,375 --> 00:15:02,625 (group murmurs) 309 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,833 The reason for it is, 310 00:15:06,833 --> 00:15:08,875 we're hopeful that the atmosphere of family 311 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:10,708 is gonna make a big difference in his life. 312 00:15:10,708 --> 00:15:11,833 - [Attendee] Yes. 313 00:15:11,833 --> 00:15:13,958 - How long has he been behind bars? 314 00:15:13,958 --> 00:15:16,125 - Off and on for over nine years. 315 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:19,542 - I still feel a little nervous. 316 00:15:19,542 --> 00:15:21,458 I feel like I'm gonna have to watch my back 317 00:15:21,458 --> 00:15:24,542 just because I can't trust him, 'cause I don't know him. 318 00:15:24,542 --> 00:15:25,917 - To be honest with you, 319 00:15:25,917 --> 00:15:27,417 I don't know a whole lot about Mickey. 320 00:15:27,417 --> 00:15:31,708 I've spoke to him via messaging just a couple of times. 321 00:15:31,708 --> 00:15:35,042 But I believe that it's all gonna work out for the good. 322 00:15:35,042 --> 00:15:37,708 - It sounds great, but I don't think you're taking it 323 00:15:37,708 --> 00:15:39,000 serious enough. 324 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,833 This guy's gonna be in your personal home, 325 00:15:40,833 --> 00:15:42,917 doing God knows what. 326 00:15:42,917 --> 00:15:45,167 - You're right. You're absolutely right. 327 00:15:45,167 --> 00:15:47,542 But, I'm gonna make it perfectly clear, 328 00:15:47,542 --> 00:15:50,500 just because I might wear a pastor badge 329 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:53,417 doesn't mean I'm weak. (group applauds) 330 00:15:54,708 --> 00:15:57,083 - I was completely surprised to hear that Pastor Jim 331 00:15:57,083 --> 00:15:59,500 was bringing Mickey into his home. 332 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:03,000 Jim is a big guy, but that does not mean anything. 333 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,583 There's times when people are gonna be vulnerable. 334 00:16:05,583 --> 00:16:09,417 - For a woman to have another man come into their home, 335 00:16:09,417 --> 00:16:12,167 yeah, that's gonna raise some concerns. 336 00:16:12,167 --> 00:16:14,958 - Yes. It gets me a little nervous. 337 00:16:14,958 --> 00:16:16,292 - Give me the Lord! 338 00:16:16,292 --> 00:16:18,333 So we're putting everything on the line right here 339 00:16:18,333 --> 00:16:20,208 because we believe in what we're doing. 340 00:16:20,208 --> 00:16:23,333 (Marisol speaks in tongues) 341 00:16:23,333 --> 00:16:25,375 We're fire in the name of Jesus. - Raise your hands up. 342 00:16:25,375 --> 00:16:26,958 - We're fire in the name of Jesus! 343 00:16:26,958 --> 00:16:28,583 Father God, give him the mind of Christ 344 00:16:28,583 --> 00:16:31,083 and a pure, holy heart, in the name of Jesus. 345 00:16:32,292 --> 00:16:35,042 - Get a cover for him. - [Marisol] Get a cover. 346 00:16:35,042 --> 00:16:37,208 Ooh, hallelujah, hallelujah. - [Jim] Yes. 347 00:16:37,208 --> 00:16:39,292 (group applauds) Good job. 348 00:16:39,292 --> 00:16:41,625 - [Marisol] Thank you, Jesus. 349 00:16:41,625 --> 00:16:43,708 (tense music) 350 00:16:46,250 --> 00:16:48,500 - [Vada] You almost ready, Analisa? 351 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:50,083 - [Analisa] Yes, I am. 352 00:16:50,083 --> 00:16:51,583 - We're going to get Mark from prison. 353 00:16:51,583 --> 00:16:52,958 I'm really excited about it. 354 00:16:52,958 --> 00:16:54,417 - I'm not. 355 00:16:54,417 --> 00:16:56,875 - Today, we're gonna drive four hours 356 00:16:56,875 --> 00:16:59,292 to a hotel near the prison. 357 00:16:59,292 --> 00:17:01,500 And tomorrow morning, we're gonna wait for Mark 358 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:04,208 outside of the prison until he gets out. 359 00:17:04,208 --> 00:17:07,875 He gets pies, candy, chips, peanuts, 360 00:17:07,875 --> 00:17:09,667 all this stuff. - Want him to be welcome, 361 00:17:09,667 --> 00:17:11,083 welcomed here. 362 00:17:11,083 --> 00:17:14,875 - [Vada] Might think he in a five hotel star. 363 00:17:14,875 --> 00:17:17,292 - The idea of Mark coming out of prison 364 00:17:17,292 --> 00:17:20,875 and moving into my parents' home is a little unsettling. 365 00:17:20,875 --> 00:17:23,375 But I have my parents' back, 366 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:26,792 so I will be driving them to this prison. 367 00:17:26,792 --> 00:17:28,042 - From my understanding, 368 00:17:28,042 --> 00:17:30,042 Mark doesn't have anyone else to stay with. 369 00:17:30,042 --> 00:17:32,375 And his uncle was a very good friend of ours, 370 00:17:32,375 --> 00:17:34,833 and he asked us to take care of his family 371 00:17:34,833 --> 00:17:36,250 before he passed away. 372 00:17:36,250 --> 00:17:39,042 So this is the reason why we're assisting Mark. 373 00:17:39,042 --> 00:17:41,125 - [Deahja] All right, here we go. 374 00:17:42,417 --> 00:17:45,542 - [Vada] I've never picked up anybody from prison before. 375 00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:50,083 - Mom, you've talked to him more than anybody. 376 00:17:50,083 --> 00:17:52,167 How do you feel about this person? 377 00:17:52,167 --> 00:17:54,500 Do you feel like you have grown a connection with him? 378 00:17:54,500 --> 00:17:58,333 - I'm gonna be honest. I don't know what to expect at all. 379 00:17:58,333 --> 00:18:03,208 I'm just going to take this day by day. 380 00:18:03,208 --> 00:18:05,708 - Yeah, and that's all we can do. 381 00:18:05,708 --> 00:18:09,458 - [Deahja] I think Mark might be a handful. 382 00:18:09,458 --> 00:18:11,208 You like this man coming up in your house, 383 00:18:11,208 --> 00:18:13,417 flirting with your daughter? 384 00:18:13,417 --> 00:18:16,375 So, I already feel some type of way about this. 385 00:18:16,375 --> 00:18:18,917 I don't know his real intentions. 386 00:18:18,917 --> 00:18:23,208 You can say whatever it is that you wanna say over the phone 387 00:18:23,208 --> 00:18:25,542 to appear innocent. 388 00:18:26,875 --> 00:18:29,875 But actions speak louder than words. 389 00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:32,250 He's going to be living there. 390 00:18:32,250 --> 00:18:34,792 It's going to be a lotta personal and private 391 00:18:34,792 --> 00:18:36,542 situations going on. 392 00:18:36,542 --> 00:18:41,125 So, if anything becomes inappropriate, I'm out. 393 00:18:41,125 --> 00:18:43,333 - No, let, let me know. 394 00:18:43,333 --> 00:18:46,333 - Deahja, I wish you were a little more supportive. 395 00:18:48,375 --> 00:18:50,333 - [Deahja] I don't know much stress this person's 396 00:18:50,333 --> 00:18:52,208 about to put on you. - [Analisa] I'm just tired 397 00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:54,292 of keep pounding in all the negative and all- 398 00:18:54,292 --> 00:18:55,917 - [Deahja] It's not that I'm pounding in all the negative. 399 00:18:55,917 --> 00:18:57,083 - Stop doing that. 400 00:18:57,083 --> 00:18:58,083 - I'm not pounding in all the negative. 401 00:18:58,083 --> 00:18:59,250 - I am saying. 402 00:18:59,250 --> 00:19:00,625 I don't wanna think that way. 403 00:19:00,625 --> 00:19:01,750 - [Deahja] Obviously, it's getting overwhelming 404 00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:03,125 because you're also thinking about it too. 405 00:19:03,125 --> 00:19:04,750 - No, I'm not, I'm not thinking that way. 406 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:07,000 I'm tired of people trying to tell me to think that way. 407 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,583 I'm tired of talking about it. That's it. 408 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,125 (tense music) 409 00:19:17,125 --> 00:19:19,125 (birds chirping) 410 00:19:21,250 --> 00:19:22,500 - All right. 411 00:19:23,708 --> 00:19:25,958 (bees buzzing) 412 00:19:25,958 --> 00:19:27,250 Beautiful. 413 00:19:31,042 --> 00:19:33,208 - I'm Daniel. - I'm Cathy. 414 00:19:33,208 --> 00:19:35,167 - We're from Gainesville, Texas. 415 00:19:35,167 --> 00:19:37,042 - I love beekeeping. 416 00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:40,250 Bees all have a job to do, 417 00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:43,208 and you know, if people do what they're supposed to do, 418 00:19:43,208 --> 00:19:46,458 it's amazing how much better life goes. 419 00:19:46,458 --> 00:19:48,792 All right guys, you're going back in. 420 00:19:51,208 --> 00:19:53,292 And most people do not know 421 00:19:53,292 --> 00:19:55,792 that we're getting ready to move an inmate 422 00:19:55,792 --> 00:19:58,875 coming straight outta prison, into our home. 423 00:19:58,875 --> 00:20:01,167 (tense music) 424 00:20:25,208 --> 00:20:27,417 - He is a young man coming outta prison. 425 00:20:27,417 --> 00:20:30,000 He went in young and he's been told what to do 426 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,250 all these years. 427 00:20:31,250 --> 00:20:33,250 He's gonna have to grow up and be responsible, 428 00:20:33,250 --> 00:20:35,458 and if he doesn't know, he needs to ask. 429 00:20:35,458 --> 00:20:36,875 - And I don't know him yet. 430 00:20:36,875 --> 00:20:39,458 I believe Deven's in prison for a burglary. 431 00:20:43,542 --> 00:20:46,542 And that's about the best I know about him. 432 00:20:46,542 --> 00:20:49,542 - I don't think anybody wanted to take him in at this point. 433 00:20:49,542 --> 00:20:53,208 I think maybe he's burned a lot of bridges, I don't know. 434 00:20:53,208 --> 00:20:54,583 These two friends of ours 435 00:20:54,583 --> 00:20:57,542 approached us about their grandson, Deven. 436 00:20:57,542 --> 00:21:01,500 Apparently in the past, he's gone and stayed at their house 437 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:03,750 when he was needing a place to parole to, 438 00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:05,500 and it didn't work out. 439 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:07,333 I don't really know why, 440 00:21:07,333 --> 00:21:09,583 but now I think they're just worried 441 00:21:09,583 --> 00:21:13,792 that they will end up enabling him more than supporting him 442 00:21:13,792 --> 00:21:14,792 and helping him. 443 00:21:14,792 --> 00:21:16,250 So, they were looking for someone 444 00:21:16,250 --> 00:21:18,042 to take him into their home 445 00:21:18,042 --> 00:21:19,583 when he was released from prison. 446 00:21:26,250 --> 00:21:28,583 - Yeah. If he messes up, that's it. 447 00:21:28,583 --> 00:21:30,875 - I think it's a very good idea that, 448 00:21:30,875 --> 00:21:33,750 if you're trying to change your life, move outta your area, 449 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:36,458 that everybody knows you and your friends. 450 00:21:36,458 --> 00:21:38,250 You don't have no, you start over. 451 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:49,875 And I got my medication, two sets of under clothes. 452 00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:52,208 - Okay. Are you sure you're ready for this? 453 00:21:52,208 --> 00:21:54,000 - I'm not sure of anything, honey. 454 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,250 (Cathy laughs) 455 00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:57,042 We're just gonna play it one day at a time. 456 00:21:57,042 --> 00:21:58,708 - Okay. - That's all we can do. 457 00:21:58,708 --> 00:22:00,792 (tense music) 458 00:22:10,333 --> 00:22:12,958 - I'm just really concerned about your health, 459 00:22:12,958 --> 00:22:15,292 'cause this is a long trip, so, 460 00:22:15,292 --> 00:22:17,375 if Deven has a bunch of heavy suitcases, 461 00:22:17,375 --> 00:22:18,917 don't be picking them up. 462 00:22:18,917 --> 00:22:20,292 - I think I'll be okay. 463 00:22:21,208 --> 00:22:22,833 I do have health issues. 464 00:22:22,833 --> 00:22:25,708 I've had quadruple bypass, I've had brain surgery, 465 00:22:25,708 --> 00:22:28,208 and I've had congestive heart failure. 466 00:22:28,208 --> 00:22:30,292 And, it may wear me down, but I'll be okay. 467 00:22:30,292 --> 00:22:31,583 I truly believe it. 468 00:22:32,583 --> 00:22:34,667 (phone jingles) - Oh, there he is. 469 00:22:34,667 --> 00:22:36,875 - [Operator] This call may be monitored or recorded. 470 00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:40,542 - [Operator] An inmate at Colorado Correctional Facility. 471 00:22:40,542 --> 00:22:43,417 - Hi Deven, this is Cathy. - This is Daniel. 472 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,333 - Oh man, I'm pretty excited. 473 00:22:51,208 --> 00:22:52,750 (Daniel laughs) 474 00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:56,833 - Have you ever like, gone and stayed with somebody before, 475 00:22:56,833 --> 00:22:58,750 trying to get okay? 476 00:23:03,917 --> 00:23:07,458 - Well, I'm glad you were honest about that. 477 00:23:09,292 --> 00:23:11,667 - Yeah, I'll help you in any way, shape I can, 478 00:23:11,667 --> 00:23:13,042 as long as you're taking care of 479 00:23:13,042 --> 00:23:14,750 what you're supposed to be taking care of. 480 00:23:14,750 --> 00:23:17,667 He needs to find a program, that I can tell you 481 00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:19,750 by personal experience. 482 00:23:21,292 --> 00:23:23,375 - Daniel and I met drunk in a bar. 483 00:23:23,375 --> 00:23:28,208 We should not have ever been together. (laughs) 484 00:23:28,208 --> 00:23:32,583 Very definitely, big no-no. (laughs) 485 00:23:32,583 --> 00:23:36,875 - When I met her, everything I did revolved around alcohol. 486 00:23:36,875 --> 00:23:40,667 I did methamphetamines, I did coke. 487 00:23:40,667 --> 00:23:44,333 But then my brother helped me get off of the drugs, 488 00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:46,667 and ended up finding Alcoholics Anonymous, 489 00:23:46,667 --> 00:23:51,625 and October 18th of 1989, that's when I stopped drinking. 490 00:23:51,625 --> 00:23:55,208 If you decide to go back to your old way of living, 491 00:23:55,208 --> 00:23:56,375 then you lose everything, 492 00:23:56,375 --> 00:23:58,167 including the place to live, that fast. 493 00:23:59,042 --> 00:24:01,208 - All right brother, you have a good night. 494 00:24:01,208 --> 00:24:02,667 - [Daniel] Bye. 495 00:24:02,667 --> 00:24:04,583 - Yeah, we've never done anything like this before, 496 00:24:04,583 --> 00:24:07,083 so I don't know what to expect. 497 00:24:10,375 --> 00:24:12,667 (tense music) 498 00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:23,208 - Today's the day Aaron comes home from prison. 499 00:24:23,208 --> 00:24:25,875 I know Aaron, but not much. 500 00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:28,625 I think I am ready to share my space with someone 501 00:24:28,625 --> 00:24:30,167 I don't know that well, 502 00:24:30,167 --> 00:24:32,708 because I've lived with dozens of people in my life, 503 00:24:32,708 --> 00:24:34,875 but not someone from prison. 504 00:24:34,875 --> 00:24:37,167 For me, helping other people is not something 505 00:24:37,167 --> 00:24:38,750 you believe or don't believe in. 506 00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:41,833 It's just a question of whether you do it or not. 507 00:24:41,833 --> 00:24:44,042 I'm excited for him to get out. 508 00:24:44,042 --> 00:24:46,958 He said he should be able to get out by about 7:30. 509 00:24:49,667 --> 00:24:52,500 And yeah, there's the prison right there. 510 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:54,000 There's the guards right there. 511 00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:57,083 (chuckles) 512 00:24:58,542 --> 00:25:01,292 I think this is where we're supposed to be. 513 00:25:01,292 --> 00:25:03,542 (tense music) 514 00:25:12,417 --> 00:25:14,958 There's tens of thousands of people who are incarcerated 515 00:25:14,958 --> 00:25:16,875 and getting your feet on the ground is hard. 516 00:25:16,875 --> 00:25:20,708 And Aaron's at the end of one journey and onto the next one 517 00:25:20,708 --> 00:25:22,125 and I'm part of that plan. 518 00:25:23,375 --> 00:25:25,625 (tense music) 519 00:25:34,542 --> 00:25:38,208 (groans) Can't wait for him to get outta here. 520 00:25:38,208 --> 00:25:39,625 This feels kind of lonely. 521 00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:46,125 (tense music) 522 00:25:50,083 --> 00:25:51,917 - Today is the day Aaron comes home from prison 523 00:25:51,917 --> 00:25:54,125 and he'll be moving in with me. 524 00:25:54,125 --> 00:25:56,583 I'm excited more than I'm nervous at this point. 525 00:25:56,583 --> 00:25:57,792 Like, I really wanna meet this person 526 00:25:57,792 --> 00:25:59,792 that I've just talked to on the phone. 527 00:26:01,667 --> 00:26:03,917 (suspenseful music) 528 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:10,667 Okay. 529 00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:18,667 - Whoo. Smells like freedom. 530 00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:21,625 - What's up? (laughing) - What's up? How we doing? 531 00:26:21,625 --> 00:26:23,542 Man, nice to meet you. 532 00:26:23,542 --> 00:26:25,500 - Great to meet you, Aaron. - Man. 533 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:26,708 - (laughs) Welcome home. 534 00:26:26,708 --> 00:26:27,833 - Thank you. Feels great. 535 00:26:27,833 --> 00:26:29,125 - Yeah. - Feels great. 536 00:26:29,125 --> 00:26:30,667 I thought they weren't ever gonna let me out. 537 00:26:30,667 --> 00:26:31,875 - Well, me neither. 538 00:26:31,875 --> 00:26:33,583 - For real. Let me grab my stuff outta here. 539 00:26:33,583 --> 00:26:34,792 - Yeah, let's do it. 540 00:26:34,792 --> 00:26:36,208 - Looking back at the prison 541 00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:39,042 from the other side of the fence is a good feeling 542 00:26:39,042 --> 00:26:42,208 and I'm feeling great, I feel at peace. 543 00:26:42,208 --> 00:26:45,958 Whew. I'm never going back there again. 544 00:26:47,042 --> 00:26:49,208 The man with the voice, you know what I mean? 545 00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:50,542 - (laughs) Same. 546 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:52,125 - I've been talking to you for like, two years. 547 00:26:52,125 --> 00:26:54,208 Excited to finally meet you, you know what I'm saying, so. 548 00:26:54,208 --> 00:26:55,167 - Yeah, you too. - Yeah. 549 00:26:55,167 --> 00:26:56,750 - And you look different from your picture, 550 00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:58,292 so you know, you look good. - Yeah. 551 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:01,792 - He's definitely taller than I expected. 552 00:27:01,792 --> 00:27:03,958 His face looks different from his mugshot. 553 00:27:03,958 --> 00:27:06,792 And it was like, oh, this is who I'm talking to. 554 00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:08,250 So you made it, (bleep). 555 00:27:08,250 --> 00:27:09,375 - I wanna be outta here. 556 00:27:09,375 --> 00:27:10,792 I've been here two and a half years 557 00:27:10,792 --> 00:27:12,333 and there's some bacon calling my name 558 00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:13,917 somewhere off yonder, so. 559 00:27:13,917 --> 00:27:16,208 - I'ma go get the car. - Okay, yeah, grab it. 560 00:27:18,375 --> 00:27:20,625 (Aaron sighs) 561 00:27:20,625 --> 00:27:22,125 David is a little goofy. 562 00:27:22,125 --> 00:27:26,375 He's very animated and very energetic. 563 00:27:26,375 --> 00:27:27,875 He's a little pepper to my, 564 00:27:27,875 --> 00:27:29,708 a little salt to my pepper, I guess, you know. 565 00:27:29,708 --> 00:27:32,917 We'll see. I have no idea what he does for a living. 566 00:27:32,917 --> 00:27:34,375 Every time we talked on the phone, 567 00:27:34,375 --> 00:27:37,042 I didn't tell him anything about my personal life. 568 00:27:37,042 --> 00:27:38,875 He's a straight stranger to me. 569 00:27:40,167 --> 00:27:41,833 We'll see. (chuckles) 570 00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:45,458 Getting outta here. Long time coming. 571 00:27:45,458 --> 00:27:47,208 - [David] You're definitely taller than I expected. 572 00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:49,042 (laughing) 573 00:27:52,375 --> 00:27:54,917 (tense music) 574 00:27:57,292 --> 00:27:58,542 - Hey, babe? - Yeah? 575 00:27:58,542 --> 00:28:00,167 - Is it these black ones? 576 00:28:01,292 --> 00:28:03,833 - Yeah, we got some black ones and gray ones there, 577 00:28:03,833 --> 00:28:05,292 whichever ones you want. 578 00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:08,333 You want me to help you make the bed? 579 00:28:08,333 --> 00:28:09,583 You're gonna use that one? 580 00:28:09,583 --> 00:28:12,042 That's kinda glittery. Okay, well, all right. 581 00:28:12,042 --> 00:28:14,792 - He gonna get a sparkle outta life, I guess, right? 582 00:28:15,708 --> 00:28:16,875 - [Marisol] All right. 583 00:28:16,875 --> 00:28:18,958 - I'll be able to know if he's real and legit 584 00:28:18,958 --> 00:28:21,583 when we go face to face. 585 00:28:21,583 --> 00:28:23,417 Mickey gets outta jail tomorrow. 586 00:28:23,417 --> 00:28:24,708 We've been talking back and forth 587 00:28:24,708 --> 00:28:26,750 through the messaging system in the jail, 588 00:28:26,750 --> 00:28:29,583 but today, we get to talk to him on video chat 589 00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:30,708 for the first time. 590 00:28:30,708 --> 00:28:32,375 - Wait- - Oh, there it goes. 591 00:28:32,375 --> 00:28:33,667 - [Marisol] There it goes. 592 00:28:36,625 --> 00:28:37,958 - Mickey? 593 00:28:38,875 --> 00:28:40,292 He can't see me. 594 00:28:40,292 --> 00:28:42,333 - He can't see you at all? Wave at him. 595 00:28:42,333 --> 00:28:43,625 - No. Can you see me? 596 00:28:43,625 --> 00:28:46,750 Can you, this thing on? Hello? 597 00:28:46,750 --> 00:28:48,250 I can go to my phone. 598 00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:50,167 - [Marisol] You see him pacing back and forth? 599 00:28:50,167 --> 00:28:51,125 - [Jim] Yeah. 600 00:28:51,125 --> 00:28:52,833 - You can tell he's a little aggravated. 601 00:28:52,833 --> 00:28:54,875 We could see him but he could not see us. 602 00:28:54,875 --> 00:28:56,708 And there was a moment there 603 00:28:56,708 --> 00:28:58,833 that he was pacing back and forth. 604 00:28:58,833 --> 00:29:01,917 Like, he got aggravated. He was like, mad. 605 00:29:01,917 --> 00:29:04,750 That right there, that's some kind of behavior 606 00:29:04,750 --> 00:29:06,833 when somebody is on something 607 00:29:06,833 --> 00:29:09,542 and they can't get something right away, 608 00:29:09,542 --> 00:29:11,250 that's one of the things that they do. 609 00:29:12,750 --> 00:29:15,792 My question is, is he clean? 610 00:29:15,792 --> 00:29:17,125 Oh, there we go. 611 00:29:18,458 --> 00:29:20,125 - What's going on, man? 612 00:29:21,625 --> 00:29:23,208 - [Jim] Yes. 613 00:29:23,208 --> 00:29:26,000 - Good to finally meet you too, yeah. 614 00:29:27,917 --> 00:29:29,458 - [Marisol] Yeah, it's-- 615 00:29:29,458 --> 00:29:31,833 - [Jim] All right, we can move on the front porch, come on. 616 00:29:33,458 --> 00:29:36,250 - [Jim] Yes. Give us a second. - [Marisol] Whoo, it's windy. 617 00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:39,833 - So, tomorrow. 618 00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:41,875 - What do you think about it? You-- 619 00:29:44,375 --> 00:29:46,292 - What's going on with Hamilton County? 620 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,167 - That means that you was on the run? 621 00:29:57,917 --> 00:30:00,917 - So Mickey has these additional charges, 622 00:30:00,917 --> 00:30:02,375 which was news to us. 623 00:30:02,375 --> 00:30:04,042 It's evading and alluding. 624 00:30:04,042 --> 00:30:05,875 How long was you on the run? 625 00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:09,875 (tense music) 626 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:20,042 - So if you mess up, you go to prison for how long? 627 00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:22,958 - [Marisol] 21 years. - [Jim] Whoo! 628 00:30:22,958 --> 00:30:24,875 - [Marisol] That's a long time. 629 00:30:24,875 --> 00:30:26,417 - You got a history of running, bro. 630 00:30:26,417 --> 00:30:28,458 You're not gonna run this time, are ya? 631 00:30:30,583 --> 00:30:31,458 - We'll see you tomorrow. 632 00:30:33,292 --> 00:30:34,958 (phone beeps) 633 00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:36,792 - [Marisol] We learned new information about Mickey. 634 00:30:36,792 --> 00:30:38,417 - [Jim] Yep. 635 00:30:38,417 --> 00:30:40,292 - [Marisol] There's charges that he didn't tell us about. 636 00:30:40,292 --> 00:30:43,458 - So now, our radar's up much more. 637 00:30:43,458 --> 00:30:45,958 I'm not gonna allow somebody to just come in here 638 00:30:45,958 --> 00:30:48,208 and be deceptive when we're trying to help 'em. 639 00:30:48,208 --> 00:30:49,167 - Yeah. 640 00:31:00,542 --> 00:31:01,708 Wow. 641 00:31:01,708 --> 00:31:04,083 (tense music) 642 00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:17,250 - Thank you. Be safe. 643 00:31:20,375 --> 00:31:23,542 I am a little bit nervous pulling into Karisa's house, 644 00:31:23,542 --> 00:31:25,333 because I don't know her, 645 00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:27,042 but I'll have a lot of questions for Karisa 646 00:31:27,042 --> 00:31:29,792 so that we can get to know each other. 647 00:31:29,792 --> 00:31:32,042 She can probably tell me a little bit about Deven 648 00:31:32,042 --> 00:31:33,500 and we can go from there. 649 00:31:34,625 --> 00:31:36,125 (doorbell rings) 650 00:31:37,083 --> 00:31:38,375 Karisa. 651 00:31:38,375 --> 00:31:40,417 - Hi. How are you? - Hi, I'm Daniel. How you doing? 652 00:31:40,417 --> 00:31:41,917 - Good, how are you? 653 00:31:41,917 --> 00:31:44,125 It's nice to meet you, put a face to the name. 654 00:31:44,125 --> 00:31:45,958 Go ahead. You can just come in, make yourself at home. 655 00:31:45,958 --> 00:31:49,042 - I appreciate it, appreciate it so much. 656 00:31:49,042 --> 00:31:53,000 - I really appreciate that Daniel is here to help Deven. 657 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,292 But my biggest concern is just that Daniel's older 658 00:31:55,292 --> 00:31:57,917 and Deven's young, real young. 659 00:31:57,917 --> 00:32:00,375 - Yeah, and I kinda came down here, basically 660 00:32:00,375 --> 00:32:02,000 for your grandpa. 661 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,542 You know, we talked and Deven needed a place to-- 662 00:32:04,542 --> 00:32:05,708 - Stay. - Go and... 663 00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:07,167 - Yeah. 664 00:32:07,167 --> 00:32:09,542 - The last time Deven stayed at Karisa's, he used. 665 00:32:09,542 --> 00:32:12,833 And that's the reason why he can't stay at her house, 666 00:32:12,833 --> 00:32:15,208 because she has small children 667 00:32:15,208 --> 00:32:18,500 and she is not going to submit her children 668 00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,083 into something like that. 669 00:32:20,083 --> 00:32:21,792 - I feel like, for an addict, 670 00:32:21,792 --> 00:32:23,375 like maintenance is the biggest thing. 671 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:25,708 You will spend the rest of your life maintenancing it. 672 00:32:25,708 --> 00:32:29,167 - I've been sober 33 years and I still work on myself. 673 00:32:29,167 --> 00:32:31,667 The journey that Deven is getting ready to take, 674 00:32:31,667 --> 00:32:35,417 it's difficult, and certain things like, if he does drugs, 675 00:32:35,417 --> 00:32:37,333 he's out, that fast. 676 00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:41,042 I have four basic rules for Deven coming into my house. 677 00:32:41,042 --> 00:32:43,000 One is no lying. 678 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,208 No overnight guests, no pornography, 679 00:32:47,208 --> 00:32:49,542 and the big one is no drugs and alcohol. 680 00:32:49,542 --> 00:32:51,042 That's like, the huge one. 681 00:32:51,042 --> 00:32:53,458 If he breaks that one, it can land him back in prison. 682 00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:56,750 Can I take a look at his vehicle, 683 00:32:56,750 --> 00:32:59,542 make sure there's not any paraphernalia somewhere hidden? 684 00:32:59,542 --> 00:33:01,042 - We can definitely go check it out. 685 00:33:01,042 --> 00:33:02,250 - I appreciate it. 686 00:33:02,250 --> 00:33:04,250 Deven will be coming out of prison tomorrow 687 00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:07,292 and we will be driving Deven's car back to Texas. 688 00:33:07,292 --> 00:33:08,542 - [Karisa] Let's check it out. 689 00:33:08,542 --> 00:33:10,208 - If I find something in the car, 690 00:33:13,875 --> 00:33:15,208 - [Karisa] License, registration. 691 00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:16,167 - Okay. 692 00:33:20,292 --> 00:33:22,417 - Yeah. (laughs) We don't want that. 693 00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:23,292 - No. 694 00:33:23,292 --> 00:33:24,833 - [Karisa] Check the pockets. 695 00:33:24,833 --> 00:33:27,083 (suspenseful music) 696 00:33:28,042 --> 00:33:29,458 - There's no powder, so I'm happy. 697 00:33:29,458 --> 00:33:30,750 - No powder. 698 00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:32,833 Like, when we picked it up, Deven was a year in prison 699 00:33:32,833 --> 00:33:36,333 and he had, you know, weed pipes and stuff like that in here. 700 00:33:36,333 --> 00:33:38,417 And I guess he used needles for something. 701 00:33:38,417 --> 00:33:41,375 There were some clean needles in the back. 702 00:33:42,750 --> 00:33:45,125 - I know what the needles are for. 703 00:33:45,125 --> 00:33:48,000 I went through every pocket and glove compartment 704 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,417 that I could possibly see. 705 00:33:49,417 --> 00:33:51,250 - [Karisa] Yeah, you better check in there. 706 00:33:54,208 --> 00:33:56,667 - Yeah, nice and clean and organized. 707 00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:59,083 - I went through a few of his crates and a few of his, 708 00:33:59,083 --> 00:34:02,542 and his suitcase, and I'm pretty sure the car's clean. 709 00:34:02,542 --> 00:34:03,917 - Well, you ready to hit the road? 710 00:34:03,917 --> 00:34:05,333 - I am so ready. - Yeah. 711 00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:08,125 I think that there are things that Deven and Daniel 712 00:34:08,125 --> 00:34:09,833 will clash about. 713 00:34:09,833 --> 00:34:12,292 But, as a sister, I would tell Deven, 714 00:34:12,292 --> 00:34:14,875 Cathy and Daniel are your last shot at freedom 715 00:34:14,875 --> 00:34:16,167 and living a normal life. 716 00:34:16,167 --> 00:34:18,292 So, I would tell him not to (bleep) it up. 717 00:34:20,875 --> 00:34:23,417 (tense music) 718 00:34:26,625 --> 00:34:30,417 - Let's focus on getting Mark out of prison 719 00:34:30,417 --> 00:34:35,792 and him coming out in a positive light. 720 00:34:35,792 --> 00:34:37,667 - Yes, let's do that. 721 00:34:37,667 --> 00:34:41,208 I think when I see him then I'll really be excited. 722 00:34:41,208 --> 00:34:45,417 But right now, I'm just meditating. 723 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:48,667 - I'm not saying that I completely disapprove. 724 00:34:48,667 --> 00:34:52,083 I am here for support as much as possible. 725 00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:53,375 - Well, I wanna let you know 726 00:34:53,375 --> 00:34:54,833 that I appreciate you driving us. 727 00:34:54,833 --> 00:34:57,708 - I appreciate it, now, I'll thank you when we get there. 728 00:34:57,708 --> 00:34:59,458 This is an adventure. 729 00:34:59,458 --> 00:35:02,625 - It's an adventure, huh? - Yes, it is. 730 00:35:02,625 --> 00:35:06,042 - I'm just nervous. 731 00:35:06,042 --> 00:35:08,792 The closer and closer we get to this prison, 732 00:35:08,792 --> 00:35:11,500 my stomach is hurting. 733 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:14,250 - We're going to get this young man, that's it. 734 00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:16,708 I'm done talking about it, okay? 735 00:35:16,708 --> 00:35:17,750 - Yes, ma'am. 736 00:35:23,375 --> 00:35:25,000 - [Vada] I'm very excited. 737 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,042 For me, it's a challenge to be able to help a young man 738 00:35:28,042 --> 00:35:29,833 that's been in there for seven years. 739 00:35:29,833 --> 00:35:32,458 - This will be the first time that we're gonna meet him 740 00:35:32,458 --> 00:35:34,625 and we're going to see what he's really like. 741 00:35:35,583 --> 00:35:37,750 - Analisa's a real giving person, 742 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:41,375 but if somebody take advantage of her kindness, 743 00:35:41,375 --> 00:35:43,250 she gonna come out fighting. 744 00:35:43,250 --> 00:35:45,333 I hope that that doesn't happen. 745 00:35:45,333 --> 00:35:47,375 (suspenseful music) 746 00:35:51,125 --> 00:35:53,333 (tense music) 747 00:35:54,292 --> 00:35:55,500 - He's right there. 748 00:35:56,792 --> 00:35:58,375 - All right, let's go. 749 00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:01,792 (tense music) 750 00:36:09,375 --> 00:36:11,750 He walks like he's excited to get out. 751 00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:13,917 (suspenseful music) 752 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,333 - Hi, Mark. (laughs) 753 00:36:17,333 --> 00:36:18,542 - It's nice to see you. 754 00:36:18,542 --> 00:36:20,708 - Nice to see you. Nice to meet you, too. 755 00:36:20,708 --> 00:36:23,292 - Yeah, I'm so excited. Man, this is crazy. 756 00:36:23,292 --> 00:36:25,667 I just, I'm stuck. I don't even know what to say. 757 00:36:25,667 --> 00:36:27,917 I can't believe it, I'm ready to walk. 758 00:36:27,917 --> 00:36:29,375 I don't even need to get in the car. 759 00:36:29,375 --> 00:36:30,625 I ain't going nowhere. I can walk. 760 00:36:30,625 --> 00:36:33,167 Wherever I'm headed to. You feel me? It's good. 761 00:36:33,167 --> 00:36:35,208 It's amazing feeling to be out right now. 762 00:36:35,208 --> 00:36:36,875 The scenery, you know, you don't get to see nothing 763 00:36:36,875 --> 00:36:39,417 but four walls in a yard, you know what I'm saying? 764 00:36:46,917 --> 00:36:48,375 Hi, Mr. Vada, how you doing? 765 00:36:48,375 --> 00:36:49,792 - How's it going for you, young man? 766 00:36:49,792 --> 00:36:51,375 - I'm good. 767 00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:53,208 - All right, all right, all right. You looking good. 768 00:36:53,208 --> 00:36:54,417 - Thank you. 769 00:36:54,417 --> 00:36:56,208 Ah, man, to Analisa and Vada I'm just, 770 00:36:56,208 --> 00:36:57,917 I'm forever grateful. 771 00:36:57,917 --> 00:36:59,667 You know, I appreciate the opportunity just to be able 772 00:36:59,667 --> 00:37:01,708 to stay somewhere and get on my feet. 773 00:37:01,708 --> 00:37:03,667 - You walking like you ready to go. 774 00:37:03,667 --> 00:37:05,958 - Yeah, I'm ready to, you know, make it happen. 775 00:37:05,958 --> 00:37:07,875 - I thought you should've been running down that (bleep). 776 00:37:07,875 --> 00:37:09,958 - Yeah, man. I appreciate the opportunity, again. 777 00:37:09,958 --> 00:37:11,833 - I'm so happy to see Mark. 778 00:37:11,833 --> 00:37:13,375 He's very thankful. 779 00:37:13,375 --> 00:37:16,125 He has shown me nothing but respect so far. 780 00:37:16,125 --> 00:37:18,208 - But I wanna also just thank you as well. 781 00:37:18,208 --> 00:37:20,833 Just again, appreciate everything you've done. 782 00:37:20,833 --> 00:37:24,292 - Mark feel like family because I know his family. 783 00:37:24,292 --> 00:37:27,792 And just seeing him, he don't seem like a stranger. 784 00:37:27,792 --> 00:37:30,917 He seem like somebody I've known for a long time. 785 00:37:30,917 --> 00:37:32,292 - You know Deahja. 786 00:37:32,292 --> 00:37:34,333 - And this is Deahja. - Hey, how you doing? 787 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,083 - Oh, yeah. 788 00:37:38,083 --> 00:37:39,583 - (laughs) I dig it. How you doing? 789 00:37:39,583 --> 00:37:41,875 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you too. 790 00:37:44,292 --> 00:37:46,333 - Where you live at? Where you from? 791 00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:48,958 What side of town are you from in Seattle? 792 00:37:48,958 --> 00:37:50,875 - I grew up in south Seattle. 793 00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:52,875 - [Vada] South Seattle, like right near beach area? 794 00:37:52,875 --> 00:37:54,042 - [Mark] Yeah. 795 00:37:54,042 --> 00:37:56,000 - [Mark] Oh (bleep), oh (bleep). 796 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,250 - Oh, do I. 797 00:38:00,542 --> 00:38:01,875 What? 798 00:38:01,875 --> 00:38:04,000 - Hey, you! - [Mark] What's up with you? 799 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,750 - Hey, brother. Oh, my goodness. 800 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:09,625 - [Mark] Bro, what's, what are you doing here? 801 00:38:11,125 --> 00:38:14,542 - Surprise, shawty! - Oh my gosh, man. 802 00:38:14,542 --> 00:38:17,292 - I don't know who these young ladies are. 803 00:38:17,292 --> 00:38:18,625 - It's great to see you guys, man. 804 00:38:18,625 --> 00:38:20,708 I'm just, I've been gone for too long. 805 00:38:20,708 --> 00:38:25,792 - I'm extremely surprised to see these young ladies. 806 00:38:28,542 --> 00:38:31,708 - Fly guy's back, man. I'm back, it's good. 807 00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:34,958 Like, everything's just happening so, so fast. 808 00:38:49,042 --> 00:38:50,292 It just didn't work out that way. 809 00:38:50,292 --> 00:38:51,833 So, it was kind of awkward. 810 00:38:51,833 --> 00:38:55,625 When they pulled it up, it was like, you're late. (laughs) 811 00:38:55,625 --> 00:38:57,708 What the (bleep)? Whoa, this is crazy. 812 00:38:57,708 --> 00:38:59,542 I'm still shell shocked, bro. 813 00:38:59,542 --> 00:39:01,417 - He's acting like he's surprised, 814 00:39:01,417 --> 00:39:03,208 but I don't believe that. 815 00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:05,208 So, I do feel played. 816 00:39:05,208 --> 00:39:06,792 I feel like he hasn't been honest 817 00:39:06,792 --> 00:39:09,375 and this is not a good way to start with me. 818 00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:11,250 I don't know if he's coming home with me, 819 00:39:11,250 --> 00:39:12,958 if he's going with those ladies, 820 00:39:12,958 --> 00:39:14,375 I don't know what's going on. 821 00:39:14,375 --> 00:39:15,833 I'm not trusting him. 822 00:39:15,833 --> 00:39:18,000 I can already see that he's a slickster. 823 00:39:21,542 --> 00:39:25,292 - We're here to pick up Mickey. What's he been in jail for? 824 00:39:25,292 --> 00:39:27,000 - Evading arrest, driving on revoked, 825 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,917 aggravated assault on a first responder, 826 00:39:28,917 --> 00:39:30,458 and evading arrest again. 827 00:39:30,458 --> 00:39:32,083 - He didn't say anything about any of that. 828 00:39:32,083 --> 00:39:35,792 - Now we know that he also has a charge for violence. 829 00:39:35,792 --> 00:39:38,000 - He's been in our jail like, seven times. 830 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,458 - Seven times? 831 00:39:42,625 --> 00:39:45,167 - This is my home. So what I say goes. 832 00:39:45,167 --> 00:39:47,333 I understand he's been in prison for seven years, 833 00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:49,417 but it's just the consideration 834 00:39:49,417 --> 00:39:51,125 when someone brings you in their home. 835 00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:54,417 You got me all the way (bleep) up. 836 00:39:54,417 --> 00:39:57,000 Why is it taking him so long to come outta the door? 837 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,542 Man, open the door. - [Mark] Watch out! 838 00:39:58,542 --> 00:40:00,000 What the (bleep)? Watch out. 839 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,875 - You have to go. You gotta go. - Watch out, watch out. 840 00:40:01,875 --> 00:40:04,625 - I need help with a lot of things around the house. 841 00:40:04,625 --> 00:40:08,042 That's why I'm getting ready to bring a roommate 842 00:40:08,042 --> 00:40:09,625 in from prison. 843 00:40:11,167 --> 00:40:12,500 Hi! 844 00:40:13,625 --> 00:40:16,542 - Cindy doesn't understand the whole drug world. 845 00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:19,917 'Cause like, what if it is like, an overdose? 846 00:40:19,917 --> 00:40:22,333 - Oof. - Yeah, oof. 847 00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:24,458 - These are files from people in prison. 848 00:40:24,458 --> 00:40:25,875 - Oh my gosh. 849 00:40:25,875 --> 00:40:27,708 - I'm trying to change the criminal justice system 850 00:40:27,708 --> 00:40:29,917 to help more people who are incarcerated come home. 851 00:40:29,917 --> 00:40:32,667 - He lives, eats, sleeps, breathes and (bleep) this stuff. 852 00:40:32,667 --> 00:40:34,708 - I was wondering about, 853 00:40:34,708 --> 00:40:36,917 if we might wanna interview someone else to move in? 854 00:40:36,917 --> 00:40:38,042 - (bleep) no, not yet. 855 00:40:38,042 --> 00:40:40,042 You know, if you get the wrong (bleep) in here, 856 00:40:40,042 --> 00:40:41,667 that definitely changes things. 857 00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:43,458 - There're certain things that I assumed about Aaron 858 00:40:43,458 --> 00:40:44,792 that are not who he is. 859 00:40:46,375 --> 00:40:47,625 - [Daniel] How are you doing, sir? 860 00:40:47,625 --> 00:40:49,750 - Doing good. How are you? - Good. I'm Daniel. 861 00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:52,292 - You can stay here. We're not gonna charge you rent. 862 00:40:52,292 --> 00:40:53,917 - No alcohol or drugs. - Yeah. 863 00:40:53,917 --> 00:40:56,750 - 'Cause I know if you use, you don't stand a chance. 864 00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:59,708 So many people went out on a limb for him again 865 00:40:59,708 --> 00:41:02,542 and he just let 'em down, again. 866 00:41:06,458 --> 00:41:08,917 - You turned your back on us! 867 00:41:08,917 --> 00:41:12,125 What did you want us to go out and help you get the drugs? 868 00:41:12,125 --> 00:41:13,667 (dramatic music) 869 00:41:13,667 --> 00:41:16,583 - Today is a big day. Jason's getting released from prison. 870 00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:18,542 I haven't met Jason yet. 871 00:41:18,542 --> 00:41:20,875 - Good to meet you. - You too. 872 00:41:20,875 --> 00:41:23,458 I'm expecting Jason to help with my house payment. 873 00:41:23,458 --> 00:41:24,750 I don't know who these people are. 874 00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:26,125 I don't even know you. 875 00:41:26,125 --> 00:41:27,708 I mean it, get her outta here. 876 00:41:27,708 --> 00:41:30,042 I don't know his friends and I don't want them here. 877 00:41:30,042 --> 00:41:31,542 I don't feel safe. 878 00:41:31,542 --> 00:41:33,083 You just think you can walk all over me all the time 879 00:41:33,083 --> 00:41:34,917 and do whatever you want? - I don't walk all over you. 880 00:41:34,917 --> 00:41:36,542 - I don't know if I made the right choice. 881 00:41:36,542 --> 00:41:37,833 - [Jason] What are you coming over here for? 882 00:41:37,833 --> 00:41:39,125 - You know what I'm (bleep) here for. 883 00:41:39,125 --> 00:41:40,667 - The (bleep)? - You really wanna go, huh? 884 00:41:40,667 --> 00:41:41,958 - [Hostess] Oh my god. 885 00:41:41,958 --> 00:41:44,375 Dude, get outta here. - Come on, man, (bleep). 886 00:41:44,375 --> 00:41:45,500 - [Hostess] Jason! 887 00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:47,458 (cell door slamming)