- ♪♪ MTV ♪♪
- I feel like you were miserable,
and you were just trying to [bleep] on my parade.
- I'm sorry, Jade.
- If you can go that low to talk about
a day that we all could have died,
pick something else.
- Him overdosing, it's just a very helpless feeling.
- We can send everybody out and have that conversation
now if you want.
- I'm getting your ass a messy award.
- Oh.
[upbeat music]
- I think at this point now for a conversation to be held,
it would need to be because she actually wants to have one.
- Is that something you're up for?
We could do it with us, if you want.
[tense music]
- I mean, it's not something I'm trying to force.
- Do you want to do that?
- Damn, Drew. Damn, Drew! - We have an opportunity.
We can send everybody out and have that conversation
now if you want. [laughter]
- Drew, I'm getting your ass a messy award.
[laughter]
I'm going to present it straight to you.
- You don't have to have the conversation.
And Cheyenne is very clear that you have to want to,
and I agree with her. - No.
Maybe it's just because it's a TV thing.
It happens, and then it plays out.
And then it feels like it's been dragging on forever.
- I love the phrase "We win a fight by ending it."
I hope you guys do just end it, when you're ready.
[indistinct chatter]
- The restless legs-- - They wanna touch up.
- What's that scene? - This is what I was--
- Did you get to talk to Cheyenne?
- I just think maybe it should be quieter.
- 100%.
- To try to get it to go the way I think it should go,
I think it should be, like, a one-on-one.
- Stand by, please.
Delay cue.
Three, two...
[applause]
- Welcome to part two of the "Teen Mom:
The Next Chapter" reunion.
I'm Nessa, here with my cohost Dr. Drew.
In this next hour, we're catching up
with Briana, Leah, and Amber.
- Plus, I flew to Tennessee to sit down with Ryan
to discuss his treatment and recovery.
But first up, please welcome our next mom, Catelynn.
Hi, there. both: Hi.
- So good to see you, my goodness.
- Good to see you guys, too.
- You brighten my day always.
- Oh, thanks.
- Catelynn is the one mom that when she needs me,
she reaches out. She doesn't hesitate.
- I'm so happy to hear that. - And I'm so happy of that too.
I really am happy when you do that.
- I'm so glad to have you in my life, Dr. Drew.
- Well, Carly visit was very powerful this year.
- It was. - Yeah.
- Yes, it was awesome to see her.
- And then we seen some fracture with your mom
and your siblings.
- Yep, some toxic family system stuff, so...
- You shared with me that some of that
sent you back to therapy.
- It did. I could just tell
that I was, like, shifting in a weird way.
So I was like, all right, well,
I need to get back into therapy.
- Good. - So I did.
Yeah. - Good for you.
Well, we have a lot to talk about.
- Yeah. - OK.
But I want to first bring out your husband.
Please welcome Tyler.
[applause] - Hi.
- Good to see you, buddy.
- Hey, everybody.
- Ty, so good to see you. - Nice to see you, too.
- I heard you guys are celebrating
an anniversary this weekend.
- Yeah. - Eight years married.
- Yeah. - How long together in total?
- 17... - 17.
- Years, yeah. - That's incredible.
- Wow. - Yeah, it's nuts.
- Yeah, more than half our lives, you know?
- Uh-huh. - That's crazy.
- I love it.
And we saw a lot happen this season.
And for Catelynn and Tyler,
this chapter was all about growth.
Let's take a look.
- I think you look great in a tank top.
Do you think you look good in a tank top?
Yeah. So wear it.
- Yeah, because guess what?
You have the most prettiest body I've ever seen.
Nova's reaction about wearing a tank top
was definitely triggering for both of us,
but I think even more so for Ty.
[relaxing music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- Can you get in touch with the inner child?
What is your adult self telling that little boy?
- It's going to be OK.
- What I'd like you to do is write a letter
to that young Tyler, and I'd like you to go back
to that trailer that you grew up in.
And I'd like you to read that letter.
- "Dear me, I'm here to tell you
"that you will survive for a reason.
"And that reason has a name.
"It's Cate.
"You will fall madly in love, and that love
"will result in the other reason you survived.
"And that's to be a father,
"to bring four beautiful children into the world,
"to give those children the father you never had.
"And by giving them that, you will break
so many generational traumas."
[crying] Oh, [bleep].
Oh. - I love you.
- So I just got a text from Theresa,
and I guess we get to have a visit with Carly this year.
- Whoo! It's happening!
- It's been two years, and I cannot wait.
I'm going to text my mom and let her know
that she can come to the Carly visit, too.
- Is that Carly standing there?
- Yeah. - Holy crap!
- She's tall.
- Where is Carly?
- We're going to see her.
[somber music]
♪♪ ♪♪
- I just want to say that Carly will always be in your heart.
- Oh, yeah, yeah.
And she'll always be in your life.
She's not gone forever, just today.
- [groans]
- [chuckles] - Anyway...
- Ty, I'll start with you.
What are your thoughts seeing that?
- Oh, it's just intense.
Yeah, it's a lot.
- Can I just say I was thrown back for a second.
Remember being outside the hospital there,
just after you let Carly go?
Do you remember that whole-- it felt like the same moment.
- It's basically that same moment every time.
- What was that day in the park like?
- Oh, it was awesome.
- It felt like this one, you cried more after.
- Yeah, which I think was good for me,
because I was struggling a lot with,
like, why don't I get upset?
Is something wrong with me?
I think for me, as she gets older, it gets harder,
because then you're constantly meeting,
like, a new woman, almost,
every time. - Yeah.
Is she asking more questions about the experience
you guys had with the adoption?
- Not yet.
But you know Nova, she'll... - [laughs]
- Ask her a million questions. - "Guess what?"
- And then I have to step in and answer for Carly.
- Speaking of Nova, something that stuck out to me
was watching Nova getting ready for cheer
and was a bit self-conscious about her shoulders showing.
- Yes.
- What made you want to figure out
what was going on with her?
- Well, because I feel like when I was younger,
even sometimes to this day, I struggle
with, like, body image issues and stuff, you know?
So to hear, like, your seven-year-old at the time
talking about it, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- Well, that's what concerned me.
That's why I was like, I got to make sure
this is, like, normal.
- Is that what triggered your desire to go deeper
on your sexual trauma? - I think so, yeah.
- Still staying with the deeper treatments?
Are you still going?
- I did the deeper treatment,
and then a lot of epiphanies
came from it, a lot of realizations.
And then I do feel that the therapy sessions
after that treatment were even more kind of, like--
more helpful.
- What were the epiphanies that you discovered?
- I was holding on to a lot of guilt and shame,
because I feel like being sexually abused
as a child created this hypersexuality growing up.
That hypersexuality was the reason she got pregnant
at a young age, the reason why I had to go through
all this trauma of placing Carly,
the reason why everything is happening.
So a big thing for me was just letting that go,
understanding that that was not, you know--
it's not the kid's fault.
- Back to being somebody who's really focusing
on this sexual abuse recovery.
Do you feel that men are ashamed to do that?
- Yes.
- I think it happens to more men
than what men even talk about.
- Did you have sexual abuse, too?
- I did, yeah.
- How old were you?
- Probably, like, seven or eight, same age, yep.
That's the first time me even saying it on camera.
- Oh, is that right? - Yeah.
Well, because I'm 31, and I still
have never told my parents about it until recently.
Mm-hmm. - You told your dad?
- Yeah, and my mom.
- Thank you for sharing.
Is that what's going on with April right now maybe?
Some of that is slowly percolating
through that relationship?
- No, no.
She's just been--being a bitch.
- She might be drinking because of that, you know what I mean?
- No, her response to me was,
she said that I sounded dumb as [bleep].
- She said, "You sound dumb as [bleep],"
after she said, "I was molested as a kid."
- Something's really--
- And then she called me on the phone, and she was wasted.
- OK, something's wrong.
- As of now, I don't feel like
we're going to have a relationship.
My mom even, I guess, got a tattoo of the word "toxic"
on her body for me, because I call her toxic.
- There's a lot of--
can change here.
- Yeah. - April could get sober.
I mean, stuff could happen.
- I'm over it all. I'm done.
- Thank you guys for being open,
honest, sharing your lives with us.
You will inspire a lot of people.
And so thank you. - We try.
[laughs] You know?
- Coming up, I went to Tennessee
to check in with Ryan.
We'll show you how that conversation went,
plus Jen and Larry share how they're doing
and how things are going with Taylor and Maci.
All that and more when the reunion returns.
[applause]
- How are things for you and Taylor?
How's that dynamic?
[dramatic music]
- What's the longest period of sobriety you had before this?
- Zero.
[upbeat music]
[serious music]
- How are you doing? - Hey, man.
- Good to see you. - Good to see you.
- I'm glad you're willing to sit down and chat.
- Yes, sir. - Appreciate it.
Oh, goodness.
You're looking well. - Thank you.
- We're going to get into it a bit.
We even have Chance the dog here with us today.
Now, you've been through treatment before.
This is not your first rodeo, which is--
are you aware now that's very, very common?
- Yes.
- You done?
- I would hope to think so.
I don't want to do it anymore.
- OK.
- I think my biggest problem was myself
not thinking that I had a problem.
- Well, that's apparently false.
- Yes. [both laugh]
- I hope you understand that. - I lied to myself.
- How long have you been sober now?
- Five months. - Five months.
What's the longest period of sobriety you had before this?
- Zero.
I mean, well, when I went to treatment,
but look, when I went to treatment,
I knew as soon as I got home... - Yeah.
- I was going to do what I was going to do.
- Did you ever do anything where you were
using in treatment or using in jail?
- Uh-uh, no.
Now, I have used in jail, but not this go-round.
- To make a commitment like that on your behalf,
it feels good, right?
- Yeah, that's big, because it takes a lot of work, really.
- We saw you this season get emotional talking about
how you weren't showing up for Bentley and the kids.
That was a significant motivator?
- Yes, it continues to be, for all the kids, you know?
But to be honest with you, I don't believe
that's enough to keep me sober.
- No, it isn't.
That's good you know that.
It'd be great if it were, but it just never is.
- Right. - Are there things
that you worry will trigger you?
- I'm sure it will.
- Is it seeing or being around drugs?
Is that a worse trigger for you?
- A lot of people that I know still use drugs.
I don't try to put myself around it.
- Certainly alcohol is around. - Oh, yeah. All the time.
I mean--
- You understand you can't--
it all goes to the same part of the brain for you.
- So yes, I understand that.
That's going to be a tough one.
- It's hard, yeah.
- Yeah, it's going to be a tough one.
- Have you gone to any AA meetings?
- So I go to AA meetings and NA meetings.
They're about 50/50.
So yeah, I go to both of them.
- What's happening in treatment?
What kind of work are you doing?
How are you approaching this?
- So I went to a residential place,
where I stayed in 28 days.
Now I'm in a halfway house.
I go to meetings.
I got a sponsor.
And I'm going to start working the steps.
So I do everything they tell me to do.
- Amazing.
After the halfway house, are you on your own
at that point, or what happens?
- It's whatever the court says.
I am at their mercy right now.
- In the garage this season, we see you
get very emotional, talking about the kids
and missing things.
And do you still have those feelings?
Do you still worry? - Yeah.
- Is that the kind of thing
that comes over you periodically?
- For sure.
- Have you thought about ever hurting yourself?
- Yeah.
- When was that moment?
- The last time I used and overdosed,
that was on purpose.
- I didn't know that.
- Yeah, I don't think anybody did till just now.
- Well, that's heavy.
- Yeah.
- When you woke up from that overdose,
were you disappointed or were you happy?
- I asked that lady why she saved me.
- Was that depression or was that to get
away from the addiction?
- That was probably depression, the addiction,
the drama of everything going on
with MacKenzie and the police
and just all that.
- We saw how you tore up the house...
- Hey, look.
That's not in court yet, so we can't--
- Oh, we can't talk about it.
Are you proceeding with the divorce?
- We will continue that, yes.
- And by "we" that's you.
- Yes. - You.
She doesn't want this.
- At the moment, I'm not for sure.
- OK. - You'd have to ask her.
- How's your relationship with the kids,
with Jagger and Stella?
- They're good. They're good.
I see them--
you know, since I'm in the halfway house and stuff,
I see them when they come over here.
So we've been going swimming and just--
- They come here to Jen and Larry's?
- Yeah. Yeah.
- How's co-parenting going? Maci first.
- Maci, her and I get along great right now.
- I saw how deeply she cares about you.
- For sure.
She checked on me every day when all that--
- Went to court?
- Yeah, she went to court and everything.
- I feel like her friendly love for you has expanded.
- For sure.
- Because she used to have resentments and stuff, right?
It's not just on behalf of Bentley,
but it is also on behalf of Bentley,
because she knows how he idolizes and loves you.
How much does Bentley know about what happened?
- I'm not really for sure.
I think he probably knows a lot of it,
but I just don't know if he knows how serious it was.
- And did you talk to him about jail and what happened?
- No, not yet. - OK.
Has he expressed anything to you about what's happening?
- So Bentley is kind of like me.
I don't think he'll ever just--
maybe--at least not now, he won't ask.
I'll have to sit him down and tell him.
And I don't want to sit down and have
a serious conversation with him
at least until everyone knows that I'm doing OK.
- A lot of people in your life will want apologies.
- Right. - How do you deal with that?
- I mean, I've--
to just show these people that I'm doing the right thing.
I know for Mom and Dad, that's all they want.
They don't need me to sit down and say, oh,
I'm sorry for this, this, and this.
- Right.
They need you to live a certain kind of life.
- You know, I definitely do want to have a talk with Maci,
because there's a lot of things, that, you know,
I've done that just were really [bleep].
I feel like maybe she would like to hear some of that,
but, you know, there'll be a time and a place for that.
- Right, for sure.
She'll appreciate it.
It'll just enrich your relationship.
Within the context of continued recovery--
am I speaking correctly-- you'll continue your program?
- Oh, yeah, for sure.
- What do you imagine that Ryan is supposed to be?
- A father.
I mean, that would be number one.
- Sober. - Yeah, oh, for sure.
I mean, that's a given.
And then I would just like to go back to work, really.
- Back as a mechanic? - As a mechanic, yeah.
- Is there anything else you want people to know?
- I don't care what people think about me.
If they think highly of me, then that's great, too,
but if they don't like me, that's OK.
My actions, if that speaks for myself, then that'll be great.
And if it helps somebody, then that's even better.
- What I look forward to is that Ryan that blossoms
and becomes whoever he's supposed to be,
and it will be amazing, I'm sure.
- I hope so.
[tender music]
- And we are back in studio.
As you saw, I did sit down with Ryan.
I am just delighted he is in treatment.
It's such a relief.
Now joining us, please say hello to Maci, Jen, and Larry.
It's been super emotional this season,
with Ryan's illness and stuff.
Do you guys discuss concerns about Ryan?
- Oh. - We do now.
- Yeah. - We talk.
- Do you ever take them to an Al-Anon meeting?
- All the time.
- We discussed it.
- We haven't been together, but we have been.
- Yeah.
It's way different than it was in the past.
- Well, tell me why.
- At the end of the day,
no matter what terms we were on,
I always knew that if I needed them
and I called them, they would answer the phone.
- You've always said that.
- And, you know, at some point, the hurt and the anger,
you realize it's not as strong as the love
and the care that you have.
- To be able to see you all here today,
getting along and really having a common goal
of wanting to make sure Bentley has Ryan in his life.
But the last time all of you were together, I mean,
that couldn't even happen.
- Taylor-- - Sit back.
- OK. - Come on, guys.
- Taylor. - We're not doing this.
- Come on. - You need to step back.
Taylor. - It's not worth it. Stop.
- Taylor, you need to step back.
- You're a sorry son of a bitch.
- Stop.
- And how are things, Jen, for you and Taylor and Larry?
How's that dynamic? - Oh.
Perfect. - Great.
- Me and Taylor are playing golf Sunday
with a buddy of mine. [laughter]
- Oh, my God. That's fantastic.
- Taylor's great.
I appreciate Taylor
and everything he's done for Bentley.
- I do, too.
- I appreciate him being there for him when Ryan couldn't be.
- Yeah.
- I hope that Taylor can navigate through all of this
with Maci and Ryan co-parenting again
and being OK with that.
But I know it's hard for Taylor, and I understand.
- Yeah.
Somebody reported to me a story
that was a little bit confusing and disturbing,
MacKenzie going down to treatment and just showing up
and them going out of treatment and their pictures being taken.
- Yes.
- And that was really worrisome.
- It was very worrisome.
There is no one that should be on the property
but the patients.
Ryan got in trouble for that.
- Isn't there a protective order
that was violated or something, too?
- She dropped all of that. - She dropped it.
I'm worried that if MacKenzie doesn't understand--
get to the place you guys are getting to,
it could be just so dangerous for Ryan.
Do you share that concern?
- Yes. - Absolutely.
- As you look forward--
you've said you just want anything
that's healthy for him--
what do you imagine that looks like for everybody?
- What I'm really happy about is...
Bentley and Ryan--
- Go ahead. It's OK.
- Really thriving together.
- They're doing good, yeah. - That's good.
- Bentley is amazing. - He's an amazing young man.
- He's amazing.
- Did he come from all of us?
[laughter]
- Well, coming up, Briana decided
not to pursue a romantic relationship with Devoin.
Have things changed since the cameras stopped rolling?
More "Teen Mom: Next Chapter" reunion next.
[applause]
- Did anything happen past the truth and dare situation?
- Hi. - Hi.
Oh, you look so beautiful.
Oh, Kloie! - You look so pretty!
- It's a family party. - Are you ready?
- I'm so ready. - I want to have a picture.
- Aww. - It's a video.
- Say cheese. - Say cheese.
- Welcome back to the "Teen Mom:
the Next Chapter" reunion.
The moms are dropping in throughout the night.
And joining us now is Briana.
Hi, Bri. - Hi.
- How are you? - I'm good.
How are you? - I'm good.
So, Bri, talk to me about this.
You had posted that Stella spent her first day of school
in the hospital.
What happened?
- She's been getting, like, a swollen eye.
So we went to the emergency room,
and then they told us to see a specialist,
an infectious disease doctor.
- Has Luis checked in on this?
Nothing?
- Can I just say that's crazy?
- It is.
We'll definitely talk about that.
That--yeah.
- Briana spent this season hoping her exes
would be more present in their daughters' lives.
While Devoin was ready to take things further,
his potential gambling relapse threw things into question.
Meanwhile, Luis' extended absence
had Briana looking to make her sister the co-parent.
Take a look at this.
- In your perfect world, what would you want?
- I don't know. Like, I want to be...
- Together? - Happy, yeah.
You know, like, complete.
- Bri. - What?
- I dare you to kiss Devoin.
Give Devoin a kiss. - Yeah!
[all cheering]
- Like, you know, since I've been home,
I haven't gotten my license and [bleep] fixed.
I've had numerous chances to fix this [bleep].
Like, it's a lot of money.
I don't just have a lot of money.
- Hello?
Just tell me what the amount is,
and I will transfer it to you so that you can get it done.
And then just now...
[tense music]
♪♪ ♪♪
He posted that just now.
- "I'm at the strip club, sponsored by my baby mama."
- What's going on?
- You sent me this, and then look on the top left.
Are you playing the lottery?
- I play here and there. Powerball, dude.
- Come on. - Why not?
- There's a daddy-daughter dance coming up.
Luis hasn't seen Stella since December.
We're almost in June.
And I'm like, are you sure you just don't want to go
with Devoin? She's like, no.
I want my dad. Call him.
- Ooh.
[phone rings]
- Hello?
- Stella wants to go home.
- Stella wants to go home?
I'm coming.
Oh, my God.
- What happened?
- You want me to pick her up? - She's crying.
- You want me to get her? - No.
I'm at a point where I need to be Stella's parent.
I need to protect her.
I made an appointment with a lawyer,
and I want to, like, relinquish his rights.
If there's a possibility if my sister can adopt Stella.
- It's a tall order, under Florida law,
to terminate a father's parental rights.
We don't feel, sitting here today,
that that's a viable option for you.
- Well, we want an update on where you're at with things
with Devoin and Luis.
And Devoin is here tonight, so let's bring him out,
along with your sister.
Please welcome Brittany and Devoin.
[applause] - Hello.
- How you doing? - Hi.
- How y'all doing over there? - Hi, good.
How are you guys? - Hello.
- Looking good.
- Brittany, you're engaged?
- Yeah, girl. - Congratulations.
- Oh, congratulations.
- Thank you. - That is so great.
Devoin, the last time we saw you at a reunion,
you wouldn't even get on the same stage with Briana.
What changed?
- I just realized, you know, I wasn't the most
logical person to reason with.
I learned how to communicate a little better.
- Have you seen that, Bri? - Oh, yeah, 100%, yeah.
- That's nice.
Bring me up to date with this gentleman sitting next to you.
Friends? - Yes.
- Romantic attachments, entanglements?
- Friends.
- And you definitely were
shooting your shot this past season.
- Oh, no, I was Reggie Miller out there, for sure.
- They're always going to love each other.
I just don't know-- - But you don't think
it should be romantic? - I don't think so.
- It seemed like you were kind of interested, right, Bri?
- Mm-hmm. - Are you past that
or are you keeping that open for the future?
- Right now, I still think he has a lot to work on.
- Yeah, I still got [bleep]. I'm working.
I'm still working. I ain't even tripping.
I'm still working. - Things I need to work on.
Maybe years later, we'll see what happens.
- I got forever. - Oof.
- Did anything happen past the truth and dare situation?
- No, we didn't hook up or nothing like that.
- No, no, no, no.
- If me and my fiancé were broken up
and I gave him a lap dance, I would take it to the room.
That's what I would do. - Oh, my God.
- Devoin is having the time of his life.
- If I don't see it, I don't believe it.
- And there's money. Get it, girl.
- Only a dollar? Y'all bitches is cheap.
- So nothing happened after that, romantic-wise?
- No.
- I want to clarify something.
There was a whole episode where he said
he couldn't come visit Nova because of car payments.
Is that right?
- Yeah, and then it was a slap in the face when he ends up
in the strip club with hella money and it was like,
this is ho support or something like that.
- Yeah, what was it? - And I was just like,
that's hella disrespectful. - There it is.
- Like $300 in ones.
- Ha, ha, ha.
It's still $300 that you don't really have.
So just, like, this is not what I see in a potential husband.
- Right. - Ooh.
- Oh, she said a husband.
- And is that your ultimate goal, to be with her?
- That would be a great thing, in my book.
- So where do we go from here?
- Just keep doing the work.
- Like, I think I shouldn't be your main priority.
It should be yourself.
And I don't see you putting yourself first.
- I want to shift gears a little bit with you, Bri.
This past season, we saw you and Luis
trying to get on the same page.
The last time at least we saw him in the season,
it was the daddy-daughter dance,
where he took Stella.
Where are things with Luis?
- The last time he saw Stella was
at the daddy-daughter dance.
That was a long time ago.
- Briana, after the dance, you decided
to go see a lawyer about terminating
parental privileges.
What made you do that?
- There's no, like, emotional love
when it comes from him.
So I was just like, I need to protect Stella.
- They don't have the same dad.
So if, God forbid, something were to ever happen
to my sister, there's a possibility
that they would be separated.
So from the get, I always told her,
always put me on paper,
because I would never let them be separated.
Like, I love them like my own.
- Do you still want to see if you can get Luis
to give up his parental rights altogether?
- It's not going to happen. - Why?
Because of the way the Florida law is?
- Mm-hmm. Unless I marry somebody,
and that person can adopt Stella.
- I wonder who. - But I have to be married.
- [laughs] I can see that. - Maybe one day.
Whenever you go out there.
- I'm going off of Brittany's cue.
Maybe one day, it might be Devoin, maybe.
- Honestly, now that I think about it,
if they both fix their [bleep], I wouldn't be mad at that.
If it's God's will, it's God's will.
[laughter]
- I'm so happy to see you all in such a great place.
- Yeah. - Still work to do, yes,
for sure, but congrats on this journey.
- Coming up, Leah made efforts to reconnect with her father.
Where do they stand now?
She will fill us in when the "Teen Mom" reunion returns.
[applause]
- There are boundaries that I get to draw,
and it's not just to protect me.
It's to protect my kids.
[upbeat music]
- We're about to go on stage.
Are you guys excited? - Yeah.
- Let's go. Girl power.
Ooh!
[applause]
- Welcome back.
It's time to talk to our next mom.
Please welcome Leah.
- Hey, guys.
- Welcome. - Thank you.
- Well, after ending her engagement,
this season felt like a fresh start for Leah,
from rebuilding her self-confidence
through pole dancing to trying to reconnect with her father,
but her plan went sideways after a shocking phone call.
Let's take a look.
- When he showed me the deed, initially I thought that--
- That that was the real deal? - Yeah.
That entire year and a half of my life was a façade.
That's what I feel like.
I'm going through a breakup period
where, I'm just like-- therapy, like,
getting myself back out there.
I've never pole danced, so we'll see.
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Me and the pole dancing fitness instructor were talking,
and we were like, let's schedule a pole dancing event
for, like, just single moms.
And someone posted on the gym's social media
saying that Leah Messer from "Teen Mom"
is looking for a sugar daddy.
- I know you [bleep] lying.
- That's crazy.
- Yeah. So I canceled it all.
I was like, there is no way in hell that I am doing this.
- So I've been talking to Dad a lot lately.
As his children and being the only people that he has,
I feel like it's our responsibility
to give firm love.
- Victoria said that you wanted to go
to a treatment facility for pain management.
- I'm willing to give it up to be in your life.
- I mean, we can be your motivation,
and I respect that.
But you have to want to do it.
- Well, your mama said something about California.
- I love California.
- I hate California.
They're too much into [bleep] and [bleep].
And I just--
Lord forgive me for it, but that's truth.
- No, you cannot say that.
- The Lord made male and female.
- I do not agree with what you said,
and it pissed me off.
- So I don't want to be around someone
that's going to judge people that--like,
I mean, we love your friends.
- So are you going to cut him off?
- Yeah.
- How do you feel watching that back?
- I feel proud of myself.
To see what I have instilled within my children come
to fruition makes me proud to know that
I'm continuing to break a cycle that,
maybe, wasn't broken for me.
- Absolutely.
- Let's talk about you and Jaylan.
Now, how did you actually find out you weren't on the deed?
- Things kind of just started to unravel.
And I was like, all right.
This is not adding up for me.
I mean, we're cordial. - Right.
- Really, I have no reason to hold grudges.
- Yeah.
- I think we're both in different places in our lives,
and that's OK. - Yeah.
- Well, you took a pole dancing lesson this past season.
How much fun was it?
- It was so much fun.
I think it built my confidence after the breakup.
Really, the breakup took a toll on me at first.
- Talk to me about when you were at the gym,
you felt a bit exploited, right?
What was the most upsetting thing about that situation?
- I mean, I'm there to work out.
- Right.
- Just because I'm on TV, it makes it difficult.
I think that's the most upsetting.
- Yeah. I want to talk about your dad.
Was this just another effort to try
to rekindle the relationship, and he disappointed that?
- I was doing my sister a favor.
- Victoria wanted you to do it? - Yes.
- Why is she so codependent on him, do you think?
- I think she feels like there's still hope.
- Yeah.
I mean, pain and opiates, bad combo.
- Yeah.
- So he was open to treatment,
and then he made some wildly hateful comments?
- Yeah.
- It seemed like you were trying to communicate to him
that this was intolerable.
- Mm-hmm. - Did he get that?
- I don't think he was even willing
to have that conversation.
There are boundaries that I get to draw,
and it's not just to protect me.
It's to protect my kids.
- So have you guys talked since that phone call?
- He did apologize.
Moving forward, even if he decides to get the treatment,
he'll know that that's not going to be
tolerated within my home or around my daughters.
- Yeah.
Well, we want to go ahead and invite your twins
to the stage, if that's OK.
Please welcome Ali and Aleeah.
[applause] I love it.
Hi!
Welcome.
- Hi, guys.
How are you feeling? Happy to be here?
- Yeah. - I like the denim look.
- Thank you. - So cool.
- They had their first day of eighth grade.
- OK, so do we like eighth grade so far or not like it?
- I love it. - Yeah.
- Love it.
- You were cheerleading, weren't you?
- Yeah, I'm cheerleading. - Yeah, still doing that?
- Yeah. - And equine therapy?
- Mm-hmm.
- You were interested in sort of showing people
how much that helped with the muscular dystrophy.
How has it been helpful? - I don't really know.
- You just know that it's been helpful?
- I just know, yeah. - What have you seen, Mom?
- I've definitely seen a strength in her.
- Mm, strength. - Mm-hmm.
- Yeah, physical strength, emotional confidence.
It's built her confidence.
- This past season, Ali, we saw you interested
in possibly writing a book.
Why is it important to share your story?
- Because horses can help a lot of people, and I love horses.
- Yeah. - I like anything with horses.
- Yeah.
Well, I don't know if you noticed, Ali,
but there's a horse on the shelf back there.
- I've seen it. [laughter]
- That is for you, just a little, hey.
You see the little horse?
- Yes. - OK, cool.
- So I want to talk to you guys
about some unfortunate things your grandfather said.
- I think he was wrong for just talking about other people,
because they're people, too.
I'll always defend them, you know?
- Good job, Mom. [laughter]
I think you both have contributed in this season.
It's been really great to see you put your voices
into this, being allies.
And so keep it up. Great to see you.
Coming up, Amber joins us to give us
an update on the ongoing custody battle
with her ex, Andrew.
- I am fighting for my life.
I fought so hard to be here for her.
Sorry, baby.
[upbeat music]
[applause]
- Welcome back.
Another mom has joined us on stage.
Please welcome Amber.
So good to see you. You took a break.
You were working on yourself.
I appreciate you being here. You been good?
- I had to rebuild my life.
I had to learn who I was without the cameras.
- Well, I'm glad you're back. - Thank you.
- And there was news this summer
that Andrew filed to suspend your parental rights.
- Yeah.
- What does that mean? What's the status on that?
- I can't say much.
All I can say is, I was supposed to have
my son throughout the summer.
And let's just say--
- It didn't happen.
What's happening now? Are you going to get him back?
- So I finished the--
just waiting on the--
- So you finished court and are waiting on a decision.
Do you feel good about it? - Yeah, I do, actually.
- OK, good.
I would like to see Leah.
I haven't seen her in a long, long time.
- Oh, my gosh.
- Well, Leah is here today with your ex,
Gary, and his wife, Kristina.
So let's invite them in to join us.
Please welcome Gary, Kristina, and Leah.
[applause]
- Hello.
- You guys look so-- - Aww.
- Well, it's so great to see you guys.
And Leah, thank you for making time.
You're starting high school? - Yeah.
- Oh, my goodness. - Oh, my goodness.
And you're on the track team,
and you're taking time away to--
- Cross-country. - What is it?
- It's cross-country. - Cross-country.
That's even more amazing. - Yeah.
- What kind of distances are you doing to train for that?
- I've done over seven miles one day.
- Wow.
Well, it's so great to see everybody.
And with Leah being a teenager now,
Amber, Gary, and Kristina entered
a new parental territory.
Let's take a look.
- Are you ready for your appointment?
- Yeah. Is it like a checkup?
- Yep, so your 14-year-old checkup.
- Can we talk about my period?
- Yeah.
The doctor did suggest birth control
to help regulate her periods.
The doctor did give her a good sex education talk.
- I'd rather her be safe than sorry, though.
[phone rings]
- I mean, I wish my mom would have thought about that
when I was, like, laying on the floor cramping
and dying at that age.
- Conversations about, like, our bodies and, like,
sexual things and things like that is
always awkward and probably a little bit uncomfortable.
You have to have enough trust built up
to be able to talk about those things.
So I'm really lucky that I have Kristina
and my dad to talk to and to understand me.
- Amber, Leah is so strong.
She's so brilliant.
How proud are you of her?
- I'm really, amazingly proud of Leah.
Everything that she's been through,
she's found out ways to just navigate
her life in the right way.
- And Gary, for you, you were so supportive of Leah
getting on birth control.
Why was that important for you?
- Some people look at it as, OK, that's a permission
to go do some stuff that maybe you're not ready for.
- Putting young women on birth control
to regulate their menses--
not been my experience that people have become reckless.
They still are who they are. - Yeah, yeah.
- But that's just the assumption
that you hear a lot.
- No, I mean, like, not the person taking
the medicine, the person--
like, a parent saying, OK, if I give you this medicine--
me thinking now it's-- are they going to, you know?
- Right. No.
- And the good news, I trust Leah.
- Right. - Yeah.
- And for you, Kristina, do you feel like Gary
is ready for the teenager world?
[laughter] - I don't think so.
I think he's scared.
- She's my little girl. - Yeah.
- So, Leah, I'm so grateful you're sharing your journey.
It will help other young women.
I think you know that.
Express to us, if you would, how it feels
to have a good support system and the people
you could turn to without feeling uncomfortable.
- I mean, I really appreciate everybody,
because, I mean, being a teenager,
it's not--it's stressful.
- It is, yeah.
- So, I mean, I have people
that have gone through everything
that I'm going to go through.
So it just makes it easier, you know,
for me to go through
the experiences I will go through.
- Yeah. - Yeah.
- Yeah, I mean, the one thing
that my mom always taught me was,
we could go to her through anything.
And we're always there to guide you and help you.
- I have a lot of trust in all of you guys.
- Aww.
- Yeah, that's the first time--
I've never heard her--
she's looked in my eyes and said just--[bleep].
Thank you. I love you. - I love you, too.
- What about that was so important for you, Amber?
- I [bleep] fought so hard to be here for her,
and I'm so happy that, no matter what I did,
she learned something.
I love you so much.
I'm sorry, baby, that I'm depressed sometimes.
I love you, though.
You're so important to me.
- I just want you to be, like, healthy for yourself
and your mental health.
- I try my best,
and I'm happy that you at least see that.
I didn't know that you saw that.
- You've made a big difference in my life.
Like, you've really helped.
- I'm OK.
Thank you for telling me things that I always doubted.
- Don't doubt yourself.
- And I'm going to keep trying, I promise.
I love you. - I love you, too.
- I'm so happy for you all.
It's been amazing. - Yeah, we're glad to be here.
- Of course.
[applause]
Coming up, I want to focus on our dads for a moment.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! - Is that OK?
Do we have anyone else we want to add to the family?
- I could use one more in my life.
- What the [bleep] is going on here?
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♪♪ ♪♪
- All right, folks.
Let's all be quiet, please.
Thank you, everybody, for your patience.
Here we go.
Stand by on the floor.
[applause]
- We're back with more reunion, and we've got
all of our moms and dads back on stage with us.
But I want to focus on our dads for a moment.
- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! [laughter]
- We had some great dad bonding moments this past season.
Zach, you flew out all the way to see Bar in Vegas.
Bar, what did that mean for you?
- You got to respect it. That's a man move.
It meant a lot for him to just come holler face-to-face.
Let's sit down and chop it up, establish where we at,
you feeling me? - For sure.
And Zach, how about for you? Why was that important?
- You know, just to show just how easy it is just to--
you know, if you have an issue, just to solve it real quick,
just with a conversation.
- There's been some beefs, you know,
amongst some of the women.
Is there things that need to be done
to move things forward, from your standpoint?
- That'll take time.
You got to let the natural order take place.
- Got it, got it.
Devoin and Bar, you guys were showing each other love
on social media this past season.
How did this bromance begin?
- We just start chopping it up. - Wow.
- We just relate in a lot of ways.
- Yeah, nah, for real. - OK.
- We share a lot of the same experiences in our backgrounds
as well, too, you know?
- And you both are girl dads.
- Yeah. - Awesome.
Round of applause for the girl dads.
[applause]
Gary, how has it been for you, being a girl dad
and raising your daughters?
- It's been fun and challenging.
Leah is now 14 and almost about to be 15,
and the guys are, you know, starting to notice.
And--mm-hmm.
[laughter]
- Wow.
Cory, do you want to add more to the family?
- I do, if Taylor is trying to pop a couple more babies out.
- Wow.
- I'll do it tonight, you know what I mean?
[laughter]
- Anyone else want to add to the family?
- Who else? - Hell nah.
- Sean?
Jade, you got that? - I'll take one more.
- Girl. - One more.
- Not right now.
- Devoin, you're saying one more.
- I'll take one. I'll take one on the side.
- Wait, what? [laughter]
Wait. [all talking at once]
- I could use one more in my life.
- OK, OK.
- We have fan questions for you guys.
The first is directed to Cheyenne, Jade, and Briana.
Sierra wants to know, "What was your favorite moment
from the girls weekend?"
I'll start with Briana.
- When I won the ping ball thing.
- Ping ball? - I won.
Oh, beer pong!
- You said ping ball.
[laughter]
- I won a beer pong challenge.
- Jade? - The big toe.
- I don't know. It was--
[laughter] - Oh, yes. The toe.
- The big toe, Jade.
- Yeah, that was my favorite part.
- Yes, you did suck on Sean's toe.
- Cheyenne?
- I think that night, that night
when we were just all being, like, goofy and childish.
- Devoin got naked and jumped in the pool.
- Yeah, it was like we were in eighth grade,
and our parents were, like, upstairs and not watching us.
- The lap dance night.
- Yes, that night.
- That night.
- This is now from Monica.
- OK.
- Catelynn and Tyler, what was your funniest
or most embarrassing story as a parent?
- As a parent?
- Nova's like a-- - Yeah.
Nova, she talks.
- I think one of the funniest things
to me, even though she did cuss,
one time we had to, like, clean this rug.
We have the Ruggable, so we washed it.
And we, like, put up our coffee table in the living room.
And she walked in from, like, preschool.
And she threw her hands up in the air,
and she goes, what the [bleep] is going on here?
[laughter] - And I was like, oh, my God.
- You know, you can't laugh in front of them,
but I laugh about it now.
- This next question is from Lauren.
"How did being a teen parent
positively affect your parenting?"
- I would say being able
to kind of grow up with them
and having more energy.
- How about for you, Amber?
- Honestly, I think if I didn't have a child,
I probably would have been heading in a worse direction,
to be honest.
- Yeah. How about for you, Leah?
- I think that it showed me
everything I wanted to do differently
to prevent my daughters from following that same cycle.
- This is from Lindsay, and she has a question for Cory.
"Which of your fellow mom or dads
would make a great 'Challenge' competitor?"
- Hmm... [laughter]
Ashley. - Cory, no!
- You got that fire. - I'd be like, Cory, no!
- You've got that fire that I want to see.
- No, Cory! Save yourself!
- For the group, anything stand out for this season
that really got to you?
- That's all courage, a whole cast.
Vulnerability, courage.
Everyone just laid everything out there,
and it helps a lot of people.
- Cory and Taylor, and seeing what you guys
went through with Maya, that was tough.
You know, for other castmates, did you feel the same way
watching their storyline?
- I cried the whole time, and I couldn't
imagine what that feels like as a parent.
Like--I'm sorry.
- Oh, no. It had me, yeah.
- I couldn't imagine something happening to my baby.
- All of these parents have gone through,
like, traumatic experiences within their own lives.
And everyone's dealing with their own problems.
So for us to get our story out there
and to turn that chapter now, it's a release.
But obviously, like, we still feel
emotional about it, you know? - Of course.
I just hope you guys see the magic and the power it is
to come together and see this--you know,
everybody sharing their stories together and connecting.
And it's really magical to see this happen.
Dr. Drew, for you, you've seen them
grow since they were young.
- It was a very emotional season for me,
as I've expressed it to all of you, so...
- Well, thank you so much to all of our moms,
their partners, and their families
for joining us tonight.
This chapter of "Teen Mom" is finished,
but we're already looking forward to the next one.
- For Nessa and for myself,
thank you so much for watching tonight's reunion.
We will see you next season.
Good night.
- Next season!
[all cheering]